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schestowitz> Not really. I only did a proof-of-concept thing on a Raspberry pi.Feb 22 03:57
schestowitz> However, the need to move the filtering to HV from TR means thatFeb 22 03:57
schestowitz> solution requires some way of sending info from the one machine to theFeb 22 03:57
schestowitz> other.Feb 22 03:57
schestowitz>Feb 22 03:57
schestowitz> Unfortunately, HV is missing both iptables or nft.  The latter is better.Feb 22 03:57
schestowitzI have just blocked wp-login again, temporarily.Feb 22 03:57
schestowitz>>>Feb 22 04:09
schestowitz>>> It is, indeed, spam. Why do we still link so much to a site that we knowFeb 22 04:09
schestowitz>>> works for Microsoft and Bill? It's no better than Grauniad anymore andFeb 22 04:09
schestowitz>>> many sites still exist which deserve traffic.Feb 22 04:10
schestowitz>>>Feb 22 04:10
schestowitz>> Which ones deserve traffic?  I'm finding fewer and fewer.  Most areFeb 22 04:10
schestowitz>> doing like the Grauniad and covering one topic very well so they canFeb 22 04:10
schestowitz>> spew complete and utter bullshit in all other categories.Feb 22 04:10
schestowitz>>Feb 22 04:10
schestowitz>>Feb 22 04:10
schestowitz> By the way my guess about the current administration's recent noiseFeb 22 04:10
schestowitz> about Russia and the 2020 election, is that it is intended to completelyFeb 22 04:10
schestowitz> drown out coverage of Reality Winner's actions, her reasons, and herFeb 22 04:10
schestowitz> recent request for clemency.  She is the only one who has gone to jailFeb 22 04:10
schestowitz> over the 2016 election.Feb 22 04:10
schestowitzOn the way to town I recalled your link to Mark C.Feb 22 04:10
schestowitzMaybe addFeb 22 04:10
schestowitzhttp://markcurtis.info/feed/Feb 22 04:10
schestowitzIs Meduza aware that their RSS feed stopped updating since their announcement "Meduza is hiring a news editor for its English-language edition"? https://meduza.io/rss/en/allFeb 22 04:10
schestowitzI can send them an email maybe...Feb 22 04:10
schestowitzWe need to think carefully when the s/n ratio is high. The music/entertainment news site you added is low s/n. I maybe pick only 1 out of 5 from it. Unlike T.F.Feb 22 04:10
schestowitz>> On the way to town I recalled your link to Mark C.Feb 22 04:18
schestowitz>>Feb 22 04:18
schestowitz>> Maybe addFeb 22 04:18
schestowitz>>Feb 22 04:18
schestowitz>> http://markcurtis.info/feed/Feb 22 04:18
schestowitz> Ok.Feb 22 04:18
schestowitzCool.Feb 22 04:18
schestowitz>> Is Meduza aware that their RSS feed stopped updating since theirFeb 22 04:18
schestowitz>> announcement "Meduza is hiring a news editor for its English-languageFeb 22 04:18
schestowitz>> edition"? https://meduza.io/rss/en/allFeb 22 04:18
schestowitz>>Feb 22 04:18
schestowitz>> I can send them an email maybe...Feb 22 04:18
schestowitz> I would recommend that.Feb 22 04:18
schestowitzI've just checked.Feb 22 04:18
schestowitzThey still publish new stuff in English.Feb 22 04:18
schestowitzIt was only yesterday I suddenly realised they had gone off the radar.Feb 22 04:19
schestowitzI'll see if I can find their contact infoFeb 22 04:19
schestowitz Feb 22 04:19
schestowitz>> We need to think carefully when the s/n ratio is high. TheFeb 22 04:19
schestowitz>> music/entertainment news site you added is low s/n. I maybe pick only 1Feb 22 04:19
schestowitz>> out of 5 from it. Unlike T.F.Feb 22 04:19
schestowitz> Right.  Digital Music News has good stuff but only occasionally.  ShouldFeb 22 04:19
schestowitz> I move it from the automated feed to the stuff I check manually?Feb 22 04:19
schestowitzManually would be better, as the copyright abuse/controversies is maybe 10-20% of what's in there.Feb 22 04:19
schestowitzOf use:Feb 22 04:19
schestowitzhttps://www.democracynow.org/democracynow.rssFeb 22 04:19
schestowitzTheir RSS feeds change and break over the years, but this one is in tact... for now...Feb 22 04:19
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schestowitzhttp://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2020/02/19/update-fcc-ruling-in-upca-case-expected-within-the-next-few-months/#commentFeb 22 09:25
schestowitz"Feb 22 09:25
schestowitzHope dies last. How often have we heard that a decision is imminent, and that the decision would be non-admissibility of the complaint? When will this expression of wishful thinking stop?Feb 22 09:25
schestowitzAs the UK has clearly stated that it wants to get read of the jurisdiction of the CJEU, how can UK stay member of the UPC? The problem is that London is mentioned in the text. A court sitting in a non-member state which on top refuses to accept the jurisdiction of the CJEU, and with judges citizens from this non-EU member state, can still decide on what has to happen within the EU, would make me break out in laughter if the situationFeb 22 09:25
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | UPDATE: FCC ruling in UPCA case expected 'within the next few months' - Kluwer Patent BlogFeb 22 09:25
schestowitzwas not so tragic.Feb 22 09:25
schestowitzI do not think that the UK PM gives a damn about the UPCA. He has a much vaster agenda to cope with. And certainly if everything has to be decided until the end of the year.Feb 22 09:25
schestowitzOn the other hand, what does it help to decide over the UPC when no decision is taken over the complaints relating to the EPO, as a unitary patent is nothing more than a patent granted by the EPO?Feb 22 09:25
schestowitzIf the application is refused or the patent revoked, there is no unitary patent, but the absence of a revision instance and of the independence of judges which might not be reappointed is a problem in both systems.Feb 22 09:25
schestowitzThe German Federal Constitutional Court has decided in March 2018 that judges can be appointed for a given length of time, but under two conditions: they have to be civil servants for life and they cannot be reappointed. This ruling applied to administrative courts in Germany, but logic implies that it should also apply to international jurisdictions.Feb 22 09:25
schestowitzIn the UPC it is worse as a judge can be removed from office by a decision of the presidium of the court, cf. Art 10 of the statute which is part of the UPCA, but there are no means of redress open to a judge removed from office.Feb 22 09:25
schestowitzAmendment of an international treaty without an automatic necessity to ratify the amendment by the parliaments, cf. Art 87(2) UPCA, of the member states is something unheard of. There is the possibility not to accept such a decision, but it is left to the executive to decide whether a Review Conference of the Contracting Member States has to be convened, cf. Art 87(3) UPCA. Do not try to persuade me that such a provision isFeb 22 09:25
schestowitzconstitutional in any member state of the EU.Feb 22 09:25
schestowitzI still fail to understand how such nonsense could be ratified.Feb 22 09:25
schestowitzThe German Federal Constitutional Court has still to fully accept the pre-eminence of the CJEU, and accepting such a treaty like the UPC as being conform to the German fundamental law would mean that it has given up any control of the sovereignty of Germany when it comes to international treaties. It might not want to block the EU as such, but it is has shown in the past, that it is not prepared to accept everything decided in Brussels.Feb 22 09:25
schestowitzAnd the UPC is not even a court of the EU, but a court meant to accept EU legislation….Feb 22 09:25
schestowitzTechrights and zoobab: FINGERS OFF!!!!! I do not have to repeat myself.Feb 22 09:25
schestowitzREPLYFeb 22 09:25
schestowitzJim BoffFeb 22 09:25
schestowitzFEBRUARY 20, 2020 AT 5:34 PMFeb 22 09:25
schestowitzThe UPC Agreement does not leave it to the Executive to call for a Review Conference – every Contracting State has the right to call for a Review Conference if there is an amendment by the Administrative Council.Feb 22 09:26
schestowitzArticle 87(3) UPC AgreementFeb 22 09:26
schestowitz“(3) A decision of the Administrative Committee taken on the basis of paragraphs 1 and 2 shall notFeb 22 09:26
schestowitztake effect if a Contracting Member State declares within twelve months of the date of the decision,Feb 22 09:26
schestowitzon the basis of its relevant internal decision-making procedures, that it does not wish to be bound byFeb 22 09:26
schestowitzthe decision. In this case, a Review Conference of the Contracting Member States shallFeb 22 09:26
schestowitzbe convened.”Feb 22 09:26
schestowitzIn this respect, the competence of the Administrative Council of the UPC under Article 83(2) UPC mirrors that of the Administrative Council of the EPO [Articles 33(1)(b) and 35(3) EPC] but Article 83(1) UPC goes a little further in allowing amendments to the Agreement to “improve the functioning of the Court”. This too is subject to Article 87(3) UPC.Feb 22 09:26
schestowitzIn short, if you are worried about the UPC you should be worried about the EPO.Feb 22 09:26
schestowitzI note your concerns about the decision making processes in the EPO. Are you calling for Germany to leave the EPC?Feb 22 09:26
schestowitzGiven current circumstances, flouncing out of European co-operation agreements would be a significant escalation of an already tense situation.Feb 22 09:26
schestowitzREPLYFeb 22 09:26
schestowitzAttentive ObserverFeb 22 09:26
schestowitzFEBRUARY 21, 2020 AT 12:00 AMFeb 22 09:26
schestowitzDear Mr Boff,Feb 22 09:26
schestowitzThanks for a very interesting comment.Feb 22 09:26
schestowitzI never doubted that any contracting state can call a review conference, but you are playing with words. In reality such an initiative in a contracting state has primarily to be taken by the executive, and if the executive does not wish to call a review conference, it will not do so. It should not be allowed to let an administrative body, be it called administrative committee or administrative council to amend an internationalFeb 22 09:26
schestowitzConvention. At least very constraining rules should be in place.Feb 22 09:26
schestowitzIf “improving the functioning of the Court” means that for instance, non-member states of the EU can be invited to participate to the UPC, then this is not ok.Feb 22 09:26
schestowitzI am indeed worried about the UPC, but I am not worried about the EPO.Feb 22 09:26
schestowitzArt 35(3) EPC requires unanimity of all member states if an amendment to the EPC under Art 33(1,b) EPC is to be decided. A decision taken on the basis of Art 33(1,b) EPC, shall not take effect if a Contracting State declares, within twelve months of the date of the decision that it does not wish to be bound by that decision. In the EPC there is thus a double barrier. First unanimity is required, and even after unanimity was acquired aFeb 22 09:26
schestowitzcontracting state still has the possibility to back out afterwards.Feb 22 09:26
schestowitzArt 87(3) UPCA simply says that a decision not take effect if a Contracting Member State declares within twelve months of the date of the decision, on the basis of its relevant internal decision-making procedures, that it does not wish to be bound by the decision.Feb 22 09:26
schestowitzTo my knowledge, there is no unanimity required in order to amend the UPCA. It is thus not correct to say that “Article 83(2) UPC mirrors that of the Administrative Council of the EPO [Articles 33(1)(b) and 35(3) EPC]”. It is revealing to me that “Article 83(1) UPC goes a little further in allowing amendments to the Agreement to “improve the functioning of the Court”. This too is subject to Article 87(3) UPC”.Feb 22 09:26
schestowitzIt has not been defined what should be understood under “improving the functioning of the court”, and like for Art 87(2) no unanimity is required up front. Would a simple majority be enough or should it be at least a majority of three quarters like for certain amendments of the EPC? Why have all those aspects be left out in the UPCA?Feb 22 09:26
schestowitzI am certainly in favour of European co-operation in IP matters, but certainly not the option which is offered by the UPC. The situation is certainly tense as the UPC has not been ratified quickly in order to create a fait accompli, but as more times goes by, all the drawbacks and approximations come to light. This is certainly not something wished by the proponents of the UPC in general and you in particular.Feb 22 09:26
schestowitzRather than directing the debate on an alleged mirroring of the UPC and the EPC, I would have wished a reply to my comment about Art 10 of the Statute or on the reappointment of judges.Feb 22 09:26
schestowitzAt least you saved the readers from the usual verbiage about the positive effects of the UPC for European industry and especially for European SMEs, which is anything but convincing. The main beneficiaries of the UPC will first be non-EU countries as it will be possible for them to have one entry point in order to attack European industry. The second beneficiaries will be big international lawyers firms acting in a multinationalFeb 22 09:26
schestowitzenvironment.Feb 22 09:26
schestowitzA simple question: how many litigations in Europe go over more than one country? Only a very few. Do we need such a complicated and expensive construct like the UPC? My answer is no.Feb 22 09:26
schestowitzI am certainly not calling for Germany to leave the EPC, but I am calling to give the Boards of Appeal true independence vis-à-vis the President of the EPO. The recent past and an actual referral by the President of the EPO shows that the Boards are not really independent. They have however shown that they want to resist the pressure from the President to rubber stamp its decisions or those of the Administrative Council, but theyFeb 22 09:26
schestowitzshould be independent not just in name but also in reality.Feb 22 09:26
schestowitzIf the German Federal Constitutional Court pushes in this direction, I will certainly approve. What is at stake is not increasing the perception of independence of the Boards of Appeal, but to guarantee their true independence.Feb 22 09:26
schestowitzTechrights and zoobab: FINGERS OFF!!!! No need to explain!Feb 22 09:26
schestowitzREPLYFeb 22 09:26
schestowitzMNFeb 22 09:26
schestowitzFEBRUARY 21, 2020 AT 12:08 PMFeb 22 09:26
schestowitz[Slightly revised and corrected version, Moderator please feel free to delete my first posting]Feb 22 09:26
schestowitzGenerally concur with Attentive Observer but I would like to add a few comments.Feb 22 09:26
schestowitzAttentive Observer stated, “[a]mendment of an international treaty without an automatic necessity to ratify the amendment by the parliaments … is something unheard of”. Attentive Observer is here slightly mistaken. According to Art.33(1) EPC, the Administrative Council can amend certain parts of the EPC, in order “to bring them into line with an international treaty relating to patents or European Community legislation relatingFeb 22 09:26
schestowitzto patents”. Unlike a revision under Art.172 EPC, no conference or ratification by the Contracting States is necessary for such amendments. (However, since such amendments under Art.33(1) EPC are limited “to bring … into line”, it can reasonably be assumed that any international treaty or European Community legislation has already been appropriately ratified by either each EPC Contracting States and/or EU.)Feb 22 09:27
schestowitzAttentive Observer stated, “still fail to understand how such nonsense could be ratified.”Feb 22 09:27
schestowitzIn my opinion, one good example of that is how reversal of burden of proof in case of a patented process was implemented. EU Member States must implement or follow Art.34 TRIPS [Process Patents: Burden of Proof]. Art.34 TRIPS requires that judicial authorities must have the authority to order the defendant to prove that the process to obtain an identical product is different from the patented process (a) ”if the product obtained byFeb 22 09:27
schestowitzthe patented process is new”; or (b) ”if there is substantial likelihood that the identical product was made by the process and the owner has been unable through reasonable efforts to determine the process actually used.”Feb 22 09:27
schestowitzAccording to Art.55(1) UPCA, an ”identical product … shall, in the absence of proof to the contrary, be deemed to have been obtained by the patented process”. However, Art.55(2) UPCA then states that, ”principle set out [in Art.55(1) UPCA] … shall also apply where there is a substantial likelihood that the identical product was made by the patented process …”. But if the “product obtained is new” is the test, thenFeb 22 09:27
schestowitzthere is no need to also have the more stringent “substantial likelihood” test (which not only requires a identical product as in the “product obtained is new” test but also substantial likelihood that the patented process was used and proprietor was unable to determine the process used). Furthermore, since the “substantial likelihood” test already contains the requirement of the “product obtained is new” test that theFeb 22 09:27
schestowitz“identical product was made by the patented process” what purpose then serves the statutory language “[t]he principle set out in paragraph 1 shall also apply”? This lack of clarity what test actually applies, the “product obtained is new” test, or the more stringent “substantial likelihood” test, ought Art.55 UPCA fail the generally accepted judicial requirement of legal certainty.Feb 22 09:27
schestowitzSubsection (3) Art. 34 TRIPS states that, ”Member shall be free to provide … only if … (a) is fulfilled or only if … (b) is fulfilled”. Stating the two test as alternatives makes it clear that these two tests are intended to be alternatives for WTO Members to select. Hence, a strict, literal interpretation of TRIPS would require a selection of one of the two alternatives, a merger of both as attempted in Art.55(2) UPCA may beFeb 22 09:27
schestowitzdeemed not to be TRIPS conform.Feb 22 09:27
schestowitzFurthermore, according to Art.24(d) UPCA, sources of law are “other international agreements applicable to patents and binding on all the Contracting Member States”. TRIPS is such an agreement, the UPC is therefore required to follow Art.34 TRIPS (ignoring the issue whether directly applicable or not). Why then the differences in Art.55(1) UPCA that only raises question marks regarding TRIPS conformity.Feb 22 09:27
schestowitzThe author can only assume that the drafters of Art.55(1) UPCA may not quite have understood the concept of reversal of burden of proof in regard to process patents in spite of the rather clear language of Art.34 TRIPS. Or perhaps the drafters didn’t want or didn’t know which test to select, and therefore selected both. This is also surprising in view that Art.75 [Burden of proof] of the Agreement relating to Community patents andFeb 22 09:27
schestowitzArt.13 [Process patents: burden of proof] of the Proposal for a Council Regulation on the Community patent are virtually identical in requiring the “process for obtaining a new product” test, suggesting that the “process for obtaining a new product” test is already the accepted or agreed to test.Feb 22 09:27
schestowitzOn a more philosophical level, John Locke’s statement regarding the fundamental rights – “Natural Rights to Life, Liberty, and Property” – expresses well the modern thoughts about what constitutes fundamental rights. Patent infringement, even if wilful, is not to be held to be a criminal offence; hence, “Life” and “Liberty” (of the infringer) will not be in jeopardy before the UPC. But the near unfettered powers of theFeb 22 09:27
schestowitzUPC, not subject to any appeal to a higher court, regarding the third element of John Locke’s fundamental right, “Property”, should be held unacceptable by the Bundesverfassungsgericht.Feb 22 09:27
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/HindAbyad/status/1231182050759192581Feb 22 12:10
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@HindAbyad: @schestowitz @wikileaks Disgusting sub-human stupid conFeb 22 12:10
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jrobertson/status/1231181303141130242Feb 22 12:10
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@jrobertson: @schestowitz Is that Simon Phipps? https://t.co/zTkUQbbyPkFeb 22 12:10
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> en.wikipedia.org | Simon Phipps (programmer) - WikipediaFeb 22 12:10
schestowitzyes, who is now angry at me for pointing this outFeb 22 12:10
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jrobertson/status/1231180810666962945Feb 22 12:11
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@jrobertson: This is what surrender looks like. #surrender2020 https://t.co/VlTOxfd9zsFeb 22 12:11
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: #OSI Board at #Microsoft : This is How Institutions Die or Completely Lose Their Purpose/Direction https://t.co/ek4mp588FSFeb 22 12:11
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/2Fflandro/status/1231177878886395904Feb 22 12:11
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@2Fflandro: @schestowitz This assumes the CIA acts independently of the - The Five Eyes (FVEY).Feb 22 12:11
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/2Fflandro/status/1231176874916810753Feb 22 12:11
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@2Fflandro: @schestowitz "Fire Breaks" along with "Forest Raking" are prescribed Forestry Management Protocol used to prevent u… https://t.co/YirVx6MhYyFeb 22 12:11
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@2Fflandro: @schestowitz "Fire Breaks" along with "Forest Raking" are prescribed Forestry Management Protocol used to prevent u… https://t.co/YirVx6MhYyFeb 22 12:11
schestowitz"Feb 22 12:11
schestowitz"Fire Breaks" along with "Forest Raking" are prescribed Forestry Management Protocol used to prevent uncontrolled Conflagrations.Feb 22 12:11
schestowitzEastern Australia is still burning.Feb 22 12:11
schestowitz"Feb 22 12:11
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/1231168716253077504Feb 22 12:12
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@SleepyPenguin1: @schestowitz Might as well jump off a high building.Feb 22 12:12
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1231159428898074625Feb 22 12:12
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@zoobab: @schestowitz data in, data out, software in the middle. So yet another software patent.Feb 22 12:12
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Shaun_Girk/status/1231131333264412672Feb 22 12:14
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Shaun_Girk: @schestowitz Meanwhile the DNC is demanding all the caucus workers in Nevada sign NDAs.Feb 22 12:14
schestowitzlink?Feb 22 12:14
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/We3forDemocracy/status/1231130190325006336Feb 22 12:14
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@We3forDemocracy: @schestowitz Bloomberg has already reportedly spent $450 million in ads - in his attempt to effectively buy the pre… https://t.co/IFFxKJKSeIFeb 22 12:14
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@We3forDemocracy: @schestowitz Bloomberg has already reportedly spent $450 million in ads - in his attempt to effectively buy the pre… https://t.co/IFFxKJKSeIFeb 22 12:14
schestowitz"Feb 22 12:14
schestowitzBloomberg has already reportedly spent $450 million in ads - in his attempt to effectively buy the presidency.Feb 22 12:14
schestowitzIMO - Anyone who thinks this represents “we the people” needs their head examined.Feb 22 12:14
schestowitz"Feb 22 12:14
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/sirajs0l/status/1231116417698795521Feb 22 12:16
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@sirajs0l: @schestowitz #PublicBot @labnol #Palestine #Judaism != #ZionismFeb 22 12:16
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/LaLegale/status/1231094988810809344Feb 22 12:16
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@LaLegale: @schestowitz @SkyNews @wikileaks @JohnWRees @DermotMurnaghan Indeed, undermining any confidence in the legal process. Simply wrong!Feb 22 12:16
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/PamMaccabee/status/1231194654382739458Feb 22 16:34
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@PamMaccabee: That is good. Every positive action helps. I choose Bernie and his comprehensive, transformational political agenda… https://t.co/0jWL4lZaD1Feb 22 16:34
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@PamMaccabee: That is good. Every positive action helps. I choose Bernie and his comprehensive, transformational political agenda… https://t.co/0jWL4lZaD1Feb 22 16:34
schestowitz"Feb 22 16:34
schestowitzPamela Maccabee‏ @PamMaccabee  4h4 hours agoFeb 22 16:34
schestowitzMoreFeb 22 16:34
schestowitzPamela Maccabee Retweeted Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊)Feb 22 16:34
schestowitzThat is good. Every positive action helps. I choose Bernie and his comprehensive, transformational political agenda and I m glad Warren is playing her part.Feb 22 16:34
schestowitz"Feb 22 16:34
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9sIiUfIoggQeuvfA2KFeb 22 17:43
schestowitz"Feb 22 17:43
schestowitzUsers are both the key element and the main conundrum.Feb 22 17:43
schestowitzSoftware Freedom offers itself to users along with developers, but the engagement is significantly different.Feb 22 17:43
schestowitzGetting users to "care" about the software is important, even though they may not provide patches, etc.Feb 22 17:43
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9sIiEnUUTZ5jgBYacSFeb 22 17:43
schestowitz"Feb 22 17:43
schestowitz #softwarefreedom #osiFeb 22 17:43
schestowitzThose #cowards.Feb 22 17:43
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schestowitz"Feb 22 17:43
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9sI2Q2P1B8Hb2PfskyFeb 22 17:44
schestowitz" Envy is invalid."Feb 22 17:44
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9sI2OO2pk5vla4Vj16Feb 22 17:44
schestowitz"@schestowitz lol. Nobody's voting bloomberg, and your polls are all rigged. Bernie won't get the nomination. Bloomberg won't get the nomination. DNC/George Soros is picking the candidate this time, and I don't think he wants Bloomberg."Feb 22 17:44
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9sI1kc3yCfaNTU4oQCFeb 22 17:45
schestowitz"Bloomberg's giving it all to the DNC. It's illegal campaign financing."Feb 22 17:45
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9sHtIfJhiH9XpAbBOiFeb 22 17:46
schestowitz"Can't read this, there is a paywall."Feb 22 17:46
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9sGj42yuFlU8AvIlAOFeb 22 17:46
schestowitz"@schestowitz notice how they keep bringing up the 'has one more child than allowed' as if this isn't a major crime in china for good reason?"Feb 22 17:46
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9sGfZ9HiT3xsswftR2Feb 22 17:47
schestowitz"Learn from the past, Democrats. Don’t repeat old mistakes, there are so many others to choose from."Feb 22 17:47
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9sG1Q8a3ihzJvdP1g8Feb 22 17:47
schestowitz" could not have said this better"Feb 22 17:47
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 22 17:48
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9sFxYX7NyTTGWwjs5wFeb 22 17:48
schestowitz" The mob has decided, that Stallman is unworthy and Torvalds hasn't done any interesting rants lately."Feb 22 17:48
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 22 17:48
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9sFuAm7kERPmG1t1bkFeb 22 17:49
schestowitz" The GDI layer is full of dragons .. and the whole Win32s API should go die in a Hungarian Notation fire."Feb 22 17:49
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 22 17:49
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9sFtPcx2WB3YCNOhbkFeb 22 17:49
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schestowitz" actually a lot of JRPGs don't work right under wine because they use undocumented reverse engineered GDI APIs"Feb 22 17:50
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9sFdtCbxPpK3vYcJTUFeb 22 17:50
schestowitz"Feb 22 17:50
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schestowitz Haha.  Yeah that’s one thing I hear linux users say all the time.  “I love linux, but gee I really miss Internet Explorer”…Feb 22 17:50
schestowitzThese clowns are just looking to make headlines in linux news circles.Feb 22 17:51
schestowitz"Feb 22 17:51
schestowitzand lie about "loving" Linux... with blobs that spyFeb 22 17:51
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9sE9w2S0SOUBV7RGkaFeb 22 17:53
schestowitz" I'd have to know more about each of these to know whether or not canada should be in them but...it's good to know of each of them. #canada"Feb 22 17:53
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 22 17:53
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9sDrFkOlO1GmAvbePgFeb 22 17:53
schestowitz" isn't he canadian?"Feb 22 17:53
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 22 17:53
schestowitznot sure, I suppose so...Feb 22 17:53
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9sDiG8PnC6114eCJDkFeb 22 17:54
schestowitz"Feb 22 17:54
schestowitzWal-Mart once shut down a store in Ontario Canada when they found out the workers were about to unionize.Feb 22 17:54
schestowitzUnions are their kryptonite.Feb 22 17:54
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schestowitz"Feb 22 17:54
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9sDgxAtfdt7RJbZHqC\Feb 22 17:55
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 400 @ https://pleroma.site/notice/9sDgxAtfdt7RJbZHqC\ )Feb 22 17:55
schestowitz"Central bank collapse by 2022. Thankfully, NESARA will be mostly implemented by then."Feb 22 17:55
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9sDakPJM8iqaWy6wpkFeb 22 17:55
schestowitz" took a second but... you're right"Feb 22 17:55
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 22 17:55
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9sDaeEZ3BQpTSjVZceFeb 22 17:55
schestowitz" um"Feb 22 17:55
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 22 17:55
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9sDaZ2K1GzTm2s01UOFeb 22 17:56
schestowitz" Speaking of which, apparently Buttigieg is a "Microsoft Word guy"."Feb 22 17:56
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 22 17:56
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9sDZciS8zHPjcvzS7sFeb 22 17:56
schestowitz" Soon, all of Epstein's friends will be exposed. It's only a matter of time."Feb 22 17:56
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 22 17:56
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9sDDpKAmNDLh63TVeCFeb 22 17:57
schestowitz"Feb 22 17:57
schestowitzLast year I read "The Strange Death of Europe." It's not a great book and I think the author gets a lot of socio-economical stuff wrong ... but I also think the author makes valid points about the migrant crisis.Feb 22 17:57
schestowitzLeft leaning progressives want to help the world and the refugees .. but a lot of the refugees don't have the same views on womens' rights, LGBT rights, pornography/sex work, et. al.Feb 22 17:57
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 22 17:57
schestowitz"Feb 22 17:57
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9sDDlARWbhRdlHKEvgFeb 22 17:57
schestowitz"Feb 22 17:57
schestowitz@LPS I heard about this from @schestowitzFeb 22 17:57
schestowitzDid we not buy him enough coffee?Feb 22 17:57
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 22 17:57
schestowitz"Feb 22 17:57
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9sDD2AkAdsaffAajdwFeb 22 17:58
schestowitz"@schestowitz - It still boggles my luddite mind that people are OK with these devices in their homes and cars. No able-bodied person actually needs one of these."Feb 22 17:58
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 22 17:58
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9sDAYmqkCVAnFcWhZQFeb 22 17:58
schestowitz"@EMPEROR @hello @schestowitz are you using tor?"Feb 22 17:58
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 22 17:58
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9sD7rpe5jJfXYtzwGmFeb 22 17:58
schestowitz"Feb 22 17:58
schestowitz@jeffcliff @hello @schestowitzFeb 22 17:58
schestowitzserver not foundFeb 22 17:58
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schestowitz"Feb 22 17:58
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9sD4PsC6MSRtUlsmUyFeb 22 17:59
schestowitz"find Rush #Limbaugh"Feb 22 17:59
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 22 17:59
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9sC9KJYxzsbfFlmovQFeb 22 18:00
schestowitz"Is there a DRM-free version?"Feb 22 18:00
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 22 18:00
schestowitzforksFeb 22 18:00
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9sBj5JwBizcFGMq0IaFeb 22 18:00
schestowitz" there's really no longer any reason for using firefox now.  I don't understand why they didn't commit to improving the debugging tools instead of developing malicious features..."Feb 22 18:00
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 22 18:01
schestowitzGoogle lost as a major sponsorFeb 22 18:01
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9sBhvg3iWUHP1OCIKWFeb 22 18:01
schestowitz"and you should also pay for it..."Feb 22 18:01
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 22 18:01
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9s9JcsDCKPUXzkDFRYFeb 22 18:02
schestowitz"@schestowitz actually, LTE-M generates much less radiated power verses GSM and CDMA2000, so it's less radiation in general."Feb 22 18:02
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 22 18:02
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9s8yiZQkyIIORhQimmFeb 22 18:03
schestowitz"Feb 22 18:03
schestowitzhmm yessss...  but it consumed more energy in a week then what it costs to run a raspberry pi for a whole year 24/7Feb 22 18:03
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 22 18:03
schestowitzand the tantallium, cobalt, aluminium, copper, gold, in one 486 can build at least 10 pi boxes..    and so... it might still be greener to recycle the old thing.Feb 22 18:03
schestowitzthough it might end up on a scrapheap instead... and all the plastic thats another headache.Feb 22 18:03
schestowitzthere is so much these grazy humans need to fix...Feb 22 18:03
schestowitz"Feb 22 18:03
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9s8qrNPyCjn2A6kZuqFeb 22 18:03
schestowitz"@EMPEROR @schestowitz @hello http://searxes.nmqnkngye4ct7bgss4bmv5ca3wpa55yugvxen5kz2bbq67lwy6ps54yd.onion/"Feb 22 18:03
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 22 18:03
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9s8obwKORTcZtMeYUqFeb 22 18:03
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-searxes.nmqnkngye4ct7bgss4bmv5ca3wpa55yugvxen5kz2bbq67lwy6ps54yd.onion |Feb 22 18:03
schestowitz"So what is preferable search engine now?"Feb 22 18:03
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 22 18:03
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9s8c1Yg5hE3EfSggvwFeb 22 18:04
schestowitz"@schestowitz Can you do me a favor? When Anthony Weiner's laptop's contents are released in October, and you finally have to come to terms of which side you're defending, can you take a few steps back, maybe smoke a nice fat joint, and try to slay your confirmation bias once and for all? It might end up with you having to struggle with the notion that Barr isn't the devil you think he is, but you'll end up being a better person for theFeb 22 18:04
schestowitzinternal dialogue you'll have."Feb 22 18:04
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 22 18:04
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9s8bmghdZrS5DGJuL2Feb 22 18:05
schestowitz"Feb 22 18:05
schestowitz@schestowitz It's true that you could switch desktop without switching distros, but it's something I wouldn't encourage end-users to try, unless they enjoy learning how to do some of the vertical integration work themselves.Feb 22 18:05
schestowitzI say this while using #KDE on #Fedora and #ArchLinux. Both distros ship up-to-date and relatively unadulterated KDE packages, but there was definitely more configuration work to be done beyond installing the right packages.Feb 22 18:05
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 22 18:05
schestowitz"Feb 22 18:05
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9s8a691MJdjidLh89QFeb 22 18:05
schestowitz"On one hand, this allows for tribal rights under UNDRIP. On the other hand, it creates an opposing land title claim for the US, allowing other countries to meddle in internal affairs."Feb 22 18:05
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 22 18:05
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9s8UBlvcUFI31fJJ4aFeb 22 18:05
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 22 18:05
schestowitz" it bought  waterfox browser recently..."Feb 22 18:05
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9s7Ts9eQNmgNeOxAECFeb 22 18:06
schestowitz"Of course it runs NetBSD! ™"Feb 22 18:06
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 22 18:06
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9s6stldSwhwfRXPWQCFeb 22 18:07
schestowitz"so do I"Feb 22 18:07
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 22 18:07
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9s6snj9lFZxa16dWCGFeb 22 18:07
schestowitz"@EMPEROR @hello @schestowitz for the record: i use ddg as my #1 search engine still"Feb 22 18:07
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 22 18:07
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9s6siH5qA3zRX4Cc9wFeb 22 18:07
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 22 18:07
schestowitz"@EMPEROR  @schestowitz That I'll have to defer to @hello on"Feb 22 18:07
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9s6qP1JuNhiLCcTQxMFeb 22 18:08
schestowitz"No, Hard evidence that duckduckgo is tracking users."Feb 22 18:08
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 22 18:08
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9s6qHk2cE2uBaNukt6Feb 22 18:08
schestowitz" 3) brave appears to be developed primarily in the nsamicrosoft walled garden"Feb 22 18:08
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 22 18:08
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9s6qBTQF6LfSJ0ydCyFeb 22 18:09
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 22 18:09
schestowitz"@EMPEROR @hello @schestowitz https://reproducible-builds.org/who/ brave is not listed here"Feb 22 18:09
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-reproducible-builds.org | Who is involved? — reproducible-builds.orgFeb 22 18:09
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9s6q1Wp3bXuFxIqEj2Feb 22 18:09
schestowitz" it's still in wnpp"Feb 22 18:09
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 22 18:09
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9s6pxoB38dF4ccM2QyFeb 22 18:09
schestowitz"hard evidence that it's not in debian?"Feb 22 18:09
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | PleromaFeb 22 18:09
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/1231266153399488512Feb 22 18:17
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@BrideOfLinux: Reading between the lines here, the author's position seems to be 'damned if you do, damned if you don't': Even Wor… https://t.co/1kbFuxmRK2Feb 22 18:17
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@BrideOfLinux: Reading between the lines here, the author's position seems to be 'damned if you do, damned if you don't': Even Wor… https://t.co/1kbFuxmRK2Feb 22 18:17
schestowitz"Reading between the lines here, the author's position seems to be 'damned if you do, damned if you don't': Even Worse Than Microsoft Inside the Board of the OSI @OpenSourceOrg"Feb 22 18:17
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/webmink/status/1231268108691742720Feb 22 18:17
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@webmink: @BrideOfLinux @OpenSourceOrg Wretched stuff this democracy, huh.Feb 22 18:17
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/1231268547277533184Feb 22 18:18
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@BrideOfLinux: @webmink @OpenSourceOrg But if you try sometime you just might find, you get what you need.Feb 22 18:18
schestowitzIt's a bit like superdelegates-type democracy with corporations playing a greater role and tipping scalesFeb 22 18:19
schestowitzgot some info e fsfFeb 22 18:43
schestowitzdynamiteFeb 22 18:43
schestowitz> Keep up the great stuff,Feb 22 18:43
schestowitzI'll need to sit and think hard about this.Feb 22 18:43
schestowitzFor now, no word said or written (except my wife).Feb 22 18:43
schestowitz>>>> https://www.democracynow.org/democracynow.rssFeb 22 18:47
schestowitz>>>>Feb 22 18:47
schestowitz>>>> Their RSS feeds change and break over the years, but this one is inFeb 22 18:47
schestowitz>>>> tact... for now...Feb 22 18:47
schestowitz>>> Ok.  I've added it.  They've got several page layouts, so keep an eye onFeb 22 18:47
schestowitz>>> what the script has produced and let me know when it breaks and on whichFeb 22 18:47
schestowitz>>> URLs.Feb 22 18:47
schestowitz>> Yes, some feeds are not predictable. Inconsistent form.Feb 22 18:47
schestowitz> If you see something consistent in the unpredictability, or even if youFeb 22 18:47
schestowitz> don't, can you send some of the bad URLs so I can take a closer look?Feb 22 18:47
schestowitz> I've learned a few new methods when updating the script this morning andFeb 22 18:47
schestowitz> might be able to tweak the parsing to accommodate additional variations.Feb 22 18:47
schestowitzExcellent, thank you.Feb 22 18:47
schestowitzI've just received FSF leaks.Feb 22 18:47
schestowitzI don't know what to do about these...Feb 22 18:47
schestowitzOr how to handle these...Feb 22 18:47
schestowitz>>> I'll cover Digital Music News manually but have added Democracy Now andFeb 22 18:48
schestowitz>>> Mark Curtis.  Both new feeds needed a little trickery with the parsingFeb 22 18:48
schestowitz>>> so let me know when they break.  Also, speaking of breaking, git seemsFeb 22 18:48
schestowitz>>> no longer working on TR.Feb 22 18:48
schestowitz>> I have not made any changes recently. Maybe it broke itself? Or fellFeb 22 18:48
schestowitz>> into a bad state?Feb 22 18:48
schestowitz> I'll try taking a look this weekend, probably first on a machine or twoFeb 22 18:48
schestowitz> here.  I'm an absolute novice when it comes to Git.Feb 22 18:48
schestowitzI never inspired me 9 years ago when I started using it because everyone put it in a prison called github.Feb 22 18:48
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