●● IRC: #techbytes @ FreeNode: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 ●● ● Nov 25 [02:00] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [02:00] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [02:10] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [02:10] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes ● Nov 25 [03:48] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [03:48] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [03:58] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes ● Nov 25 [04:00] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [04:34] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [04:35] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [04:58] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [04:58] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes ● Nov 25 [05:04] *rianne__ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [05:04] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [05:05] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [05:06] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [05:34] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [05:34] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [05:36] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [05:37] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes ● Nov 25 [06:32] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [06:32] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [06:32] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [06:32] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes ● Nov 25 [07:29] schestowitz clear the way to add HTTclear the way to add HTT [07:29] schestowitz >>> Ok. Looking ahead to the new system, should we go with Let's Encrypt? [07:29] schestowitz >>> Or are there better options? What about ZeroSSL [07:29] schestowitz >>> https://zerossl.com/pricing/ [07:29] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-zerossl.com | Pricing - ZeroSSL [07:29] schestowitz >>> or others? [07:29] schestowitz >> [07:29] schestowitz >> I never heard of any of the others. First I want to see if we can [07:29] schestowitz >> migrate without issues. [07:29] schestowitz >> [07:29] schestowitz >> [07:29] schestowitz > There were some mentioned in IRC in recent weeks. I can't recall which [07:29] schestowitz > day though. [07:29] schestowitz >> BTW, the [07:29] schestowitz > [07:29] schestowitz > Thanks! I didn't think they would! [07:30] schestowitz > Falun Gong has fuck all to do with Nazis, [07:30] schestowitz > blacklists have fuck all to do with racism, [07:30] schestowitz > IBM has fuck all to do with community. [07:31] schestowitz > In "Rip! A Remix Manifesto" (loaded with great Lessig footage and [07:31] schestowitz > dialogue, incidentally) Cory Doctorow (also some good footage) calls [07:31] schestowitz > this the "urinary tract infection model of business". He described the [07:31] schestowitz > rest more or less the same as he does in his cake/icing article, though [07:31] schestowitz > it is just as true or more true now than when he talked about it more [07:31] schestowitz > than 10 years ago. [07:31] schestowitz > [07:31] schestowitz > Docu is gratis/CC-NC-SA and highly recommended if you haven't seen it. [07:31] schestowitz > Done by Brett Gaylor, who then went to work for DOHzilla, you can still [07:31] schestowitz > watch it on Yewtu.be. [07:31] schestowitz > [07:31] schestowitz > schestowitz [07:31] schestowitz > > Today, digital systems offer perfect enforcement for the [07:31] schestowitz > Nov 22 18:40 [07:31] schestowitz > 22 18:40:40> [07:31] schestowitz > schestowitz [07:31] schestowitz > > pettiest, most bullshitty, greediest grifts imaginable." [07:31] schestowitz > Nov 22 18:40 [07:31] schestowitz > 22 18:40:42> [07:33] schestowitz > I suppose what we are meant to do now, is watch if "FSF Forge" helps at [07:33] schestowitz > all with the GitHub problem that exists in the GNU Project. [07:33] schestowitz > [07:33] schestowitz > Obvious concerns: that it will be capable of helping though make no [07:33] schestowitz > difference in practice, that GNU devs will continue to put Microsoft [07:33] schestowitz > first, that Forge will become the next Gitea-- something that is meant [07:33] schestowitz > to offer promise though it drags on and on and on. [07:33] schestowitz > [07:33] schestowitz > Or worse, that "Forge" will actually just be another GitHub-developed [07:33] schestowitz > project that the FSF has decided to sponsor and promote, like Jitsi or [07:33] schestowitz > IceCat or BBB or Perl... Note that Forge was mentioned months ago, and [07:33] schestowitz > it could be a year before a single project moves from GitHub to Forge. [07:33] schestowitz > But I'm sure you know how much I would love to be wrong. Prove me wrong, [07:33] schestowitz > please. Then all I could complain about is how they hate free speech and [07:33] schestowitz > silence people like their own founder. That would be real progress! [07:33] schestowitz I think it was supposed to be ready in some firm by year's end. [07:33] schestowitz A month left... [07:33] schestowitz *I think it was supposed to be ready in some form by year's end. [07:36] schestowitz > More cheerleading for constitutional crises and treason. I hope he's [07:36] schestowitz > being sarcastic. If he's serious, it's just really dumb. If he's [07:36] schestowitz > sarcastic, it's dark humour. [07:36] schestowitz > [07:36] schestowitz > DaemonFC[m] [07:36] schestowitz > Trump got the courts to set new limits to power he wasn't competent [07:36] schestowitz > enough to use fully. [07:36] schestowitz > [07:36] schestowitz > DaemonFC[m] [07:36] schestowitz > But....Biden and his cabinet are. [07:36] schestowitz > Nobody really needs to ban what's left of free software. [07:36] schestowitz > [07:36] schestowitz > CrystalMath [07:36] schestowitz > we'll all see how wrong you all were when Biden bans free software [07:36] schestowitz > I believe you are mistaken, and do not understand the real purpose of a [07:36] schestowitz > Secretary of State. [07:36] schestowitz > [07:36] schestowitz > If you mean that she wasn't personally stationed at the front line, then [07:36] schestowitz > I would agree with that. [07:36] schestowitz > [07:36] schestowitz > schestowitz [07:36] schestowitz > HRC is horrible, but it's not her who invaded libya and syria [07:37] schestowitz Re: Urban Explorers (France) [07:37] schestowitz > https://yewtu.be/watch?v=k_DTXEBFXXU [07:37] schestowitz > [07:37] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-yewtu.be | URBEX | Abandoned French manor, everything left behind - Invidious [07:37] schestowitz > Here's a perfect example of dumb censorship. [07:37] schestowitz > [07:38] schestowitz > They are in a French manor that was simply abandoned years (possibly [07:38] schestowitz > decades) ago. [07:38] schestowitz > [07:38] schestowitz > They find a publications from WWII. They flip through to find some [07:38] schestowitz > contain Nazi Propaganda (there is no evidence the owners were Nazis. [07:38] schestowitz >>From pictures in frames, one may have even fought them.) [07:38] schestowitz > [07:38] schestowitz > *"Unfortunately, we cannot show them."* [07:38] schestowitz > [07:38] schestowitz > It would be interesting as fuck if they could let us watching them flip [07:38] schestowitz > through the magazines. It could get the explorers banned from Youtube, [07:38] schestowitz > it could possibly even get them into legal trouble in their own country [07:38] schestowitz > (they are Dutch and speak some German, I don't know the laws in the [07:38] schestowitz > Netherlands but Germany is strict.) [07:38] schestowitz > [07:38] schestowitz > You can find Nazi propaganda in the Holocaust museum. They're standing [07:38] schestowitz > directly in front of some with great historical context, but we can't look. [07:38] schestowitz > [07:38] schestowitz > Honestly, that's pretty stupid. Censorship rarely cares about context-- [07:38] schestowitz > only as an occasional exception, not as a rule. [07:39] schestowitz Re: Delighted Hacking [07:39] schestowitz > A familiar article, which someone has automatically translated from [07:39] schestowitz > English... to English? (Not American to British, BTW) [07:39] schestowitz > [07:39] schestowitz > https://www.agrowknowledge.org/features-thought-about-hazardous/ [07:39] schestowitz > [07:39] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.agrowknowledge.org | Features Thought About Hazardous Agrow Knowledge [07:39] schestowitz > [07:39] schestowitz > [07:39] schestowitz > Features Thought About Hazardous [07:39] schestowitz > [07:39] schestowitz > [07:39] schestowitz > [07:39] schestowitz > [07:39] schestowitz > "/GitHub does things that are rather bad totally free software..."/ [07:39] schestowitz > [07:39] schestowitz > [07:39] schestowitz > "Theyre not going to bother enhancing smaller choices usually, theyre [07:40] schestowitz > going to enhance the biggest one." [07:40] schestowitz > [07:40] schestowitz > [07:40] schestowitz > "Theres a meme about creepy vans with /FREE CANDY/ painted on the [07:40] schestowitz > side, which I took among the images from and modified it so that it [07:40] schestowitz > stated /FUNCTIONS/ rather." [07:40] schestowitz > [07:40] schestowitz > [07:40] schestowitz > "Sweet is nice, and some functions are great too." [07:40] schestowitz > [07:40] schestowitz > [07:40] schestowitz > "Long live rms, and delighted hacking." [07:57] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [07:58] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) ● Nov 25 [08:07] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [08:09] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [08:44] schestowitz > Hi Roy, [08:44] schestowitz > [08:44] schestowitz > I have a new email address, because I screwed-up the password with [08:44] schestowitz > It's a long story... [08:45] schestowitz New pgp/sig as well? I think I have the new public key now. [08:58] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [08:59] schestowitz >> I think it was supposed to be ready in some form by year's end. [08:59] schestowitz > [08:59] schestowitz > Stallman is also supposed to be president... [08:59] schestowitz > [08:59] schestowitz > I'm sure they're tired of that old chestnut, but regardless of how [08:59] schestowitz > legitimate the election was, the events leading to resignation were bogus. [08:59] schestowitz > [08:59] schestowitz > Fraudulent pretense + Legit election = Coup [08:59] schestowitz > [08:59] schestowitz > Nobody is blaming the new president for this, just the traitors. If I [08:59] schestowitz > were president? I would spank the traitors so hard, that 1. I would have [08:59] schestowitz > to resign myself and 2. so would they. But that's why they wouldn't make [08:59] schestowitz > me president, obviously. They went with a "safe" option. I still think [08:59] schestowitz > it's a hell of a coincidence that it was the treasurer, when bribes were [08:59] schestowitz > almost surely a factor. How does one say "he probably knows something" [08:59] schestowitz > without implying his responsibility? Either way, it's safer to have the [08:59] schestowitz > person who knows something as president, rather than having the [08:59] schestowitz > president asking what the hell happened. ● Nov 25 [09:40] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techbytes [09:40] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [09:41] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techbytes ● Nov 25 [15:24] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [15:25] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techbytes ● Nov 25 [20:43] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) ● Nov 25 [21:27] *schestowitz has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [21:27] *schestowitz (~schestowi@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [21:27] *schestowitz has quit (Changing host) [21:27] *schestowitz (~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techbytes ● Nov 25 [22:17] *Condor has quit (Remote host closed the connection) ● Nov 25 [23:23] schestowitz https://pleroma.site/notice/A1ZSkt9kAqImTQVShU [23:23] schestowitz " my mobile browsing experience is usually clicking on firefox's reader mode button so i can read the actual content instead of "your privacy is very important to us" followed by a 500+ item list of preselected tracking companies." [23:23] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-chaos.social | guenther: "@schestowitz@pleroma.site my mobile browsing expe" - chaos.social [23:24] schestowitz https://pleroma.site/notice/A1YsDC5pfDZh0fJKYy [23:24] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-noagendasocial.com | Salyer: "@schestowitz@pleroma.site lol!" - No Agenda Social [23:24] schestowitz " lol!" [23:24] schestowitz https://pleroma.site/notice/A1Y9POklvHproRuBgu [23:24] schestowitz "thank you very much, Dr. I bookmarked and then saved this to my Zotero." [23:24] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-floss.social | Ade Malsasa Akbar: "@schestowitz@pleroma.site thank you very much, Dr" - FLOSS.social [23:24] schestowitz https://pleroma.site/notice/A1XciVm6kClubX2JJw [23:24] schestowitz "nice mansplaining but I worked there for 18 months I fucking hate the Linux Foundation but its because I actually know how they are" [23:24] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-jorts.horse | garden center goth: "@schestowitz@pleroma.site nice mansplaining but I" - jorts.horse [23:26] schestowitz https://pleroma.site/notice/A1ZVkhfdB2n6iK1amO [23:26] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 404 @ https://pleroma.site/notice/A1ZVkhfdB2n6iK1amO ) [23:26] schestowitz " Democrats couldn't get it done the first try and you know the Rethuglicans won't vote to remove him no matter how strongly they express themselves in regard to his intransigence. They know Trump's base would eat them alive, in some geographic regions literally." [23:26] schestowitz https://pleroma.site/notice/A1ZVmZYCKzlq6rRIIa [23:26] schestowitz " Democrats couldn't get it done the first try and you know the Rethuglicans won't vote to remove him no matter how strongly they express themselves in regard to his intransigence. They know Trump's base would eat them alive, in some geographic regions literally." [23:26] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-wandering.shop | WanderingBeekeeper: "uspol" - Wandering Shop [23:39] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techbytes