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schestowitz-TRhttps://nitter.actionsack.com/mindlessx3__/status/1441925225030029312#mSep 26 07:52
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-nitter.actionsack.com | Brian Bustamante (@mindlessx3__): "" | nitterSep 26 07:52
schestowitz-TRhttps://nitter.actionsack.com/mindlessx3__/status/1441923750450974721#mSep 26 07:52
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-nitter.actionsack.com | Brian Bustamante (@mindlessx3__): "" | nitterSep 26 07:52
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*irc.techrights.org sets mode +q #techbytes schestowitzSep 26 09:20
schestowitz[19:51] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> sorry for disturbingSep 26 09:20
schestowitz[19:51] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> while ago i had seen you supported /keyxSep 26 09:20
schestowitz[19:52] <schestowitz> keytool?Sep 26 09:20
schestowitz[19:52] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> fishSep 26 09:20
schestowitz[19:53] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> had to patch irss-fish plugin, because it segfaulted, and wanted to quickly test with a peer who supported /keyx and setkeySep 26 09:20
schestowitz[19:53] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> strangely your client doesn't respond to /keyx anymoreSep 26 09:20
schestowitz[19:53] <schestowitz> I'm not sure of keyxSep 26 09:20
schestowitz[19:53] <schestowitz> I do use some CLI tools for i/o in xSep 26 09:20
schestowitz[19:54] <schestowitz> but I'm no gurusSep 26 09:20
schestowitz[19:54] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> i did successfully keyx once, but your client doesn't respond anymoreSep 26 09:20
schestowitz[20:15] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ?OTRv23?Sep 26 09:20
schestowitz[20:23] <schestowitz> my client as in IRC, server?Sep 26 09:20
schestowitz[20:23] <schestowitz> I need to check what keyx actually isSep 26 09:20
schestowitz[20:23] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> end-to-endSep 26 09:20
schestowitz[20:23] <schestowitz> ohSep 26 09:20
schestowitz[20:23] <schestowitz> it's ircSep 26 09:20
schestowitz[20:23] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> two common options exist: fish, otrSep 26 09:20
schestowitz[20:23] <schestowitz> you menion irssSep 26 09:20
schestowitz[20:23] <schestowitz> I never used itSep 26 09:20
schestowitz[20:23] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> once your client did have fish support, various irc clients did support itSep 26 09:21
schestowitz[20:24] <schestowitz> I barely know IRC features for user-to-userSep 26 09:21
schestowitz[20:24] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> xxxxxxxxx was the one who supported otr, and initialized a session onceSep 26 09:21
schestowitz[20:25] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> well, fish plugin is pached now, which was broken and i wanted to quickly test the patch; and otr is configured nowSep 26 09:21
schestowitz[20:25] <schestowitz> I thought you were talking about some xorg/xserver thing at firstSep 26 09:21
schestowitz[20:26] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> sorry for the confusion, i got a TODO list here, and arrived at bugfixing of some irc/irssi client issues which were introduced by some updateSep 26 09:21
schestowitz[20:26] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> besides, i wanted to verify if any client on techrights was configured, uhm, appropriatelySep 26 09:21
schestowitz[20:27] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> schestowitz what irritates me is that your client once responded to keyx, and doesn't anymore. maybe you updated/changed your irc client meanwhileSep 26 09:21
schestowitz[20:31] <schestowitz> I use several clients, plus custom made ones I wrote in bashSep 26 09:21
schestowitz[20:31] <schestowitz> two custom-made, 4 GUIsSep 26 09:21
schestowitz[20:32] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ok, no problem, thought the nick schestowitz was statically configured for keyx (which is common if supported, to not drop that)Sep 26 09:21
schestowitz[20:32] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> that's why, once a keyx succeeded whenever i /query a session is automatically peer-to-peer auhtenticated, but your client setup had changed, which breakst the whole idea of thisSep 26 09:21
schestowitz[20:35] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> so I set /delk, and consider the schestowitz nickname not peer-authenticatedSep 26 09:21
schestowitz[20:46] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> schestowitz , maybe, why had you changed your client setup and dropped keyx ?Sep 26 09:21
schestowitz[21:34] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> a keyx was successfully set 2021-06-22, and few weeks later 2021-09-06 your peer authentication was lost when i queried your nickSep 26 09:21
schestowitz[21:55] <schestowitz> maybe I am not logged in or maybe another accountSep 26 09:21
schestowitz       [21:56] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> it was explicitely the nick schestowitz which peer-authenticated correctly, but didn't anymore for an unknown reasonSep 26 09:21
schestowitz[21:57] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> this nick may be authenticated against techrights irc server, but it isn't peer-authenticated anymore with meSep 26 09:21
schestowitz  Sep 26 09:21
schestowitz  Sep 26 09:21
schestowitz  [22:58] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ?OTRv23?Sep 26 09:21
schestowitz[22:58] <schestowitz> hiSep 26 09:21
schestowitz[22:59] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> neither otr nor keyx responseSep 26 09:21
schestowitz[22:59] <schestowitz> does it work?Sep 26 09:21
schestowitz[22:59] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> noSep 26 09:21
schestowitz[22:59] <schestowitz> did it work the last time?Sep 26 09:21
schestowitz[22:59] <schestowitz> I use the same versionSep 26 09:21
schestowitz[22:59] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> last time i confirmed your peer-authentication was 2021-06-22Sep 26 09:21
schestowitz[23:00] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> and didn't query you privately until 2021-09-06Sep 26 09:21
schestowitz[23:00] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> anytime within ~10weeks had changed with your irc clientSep 26 09:21
schestowitz[23:00] <schestowitz> the server was very new in JuneSep 26 09:21
schestowitz[23:00] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> it isn't the server, it is your irc clientSep 26 09:21
schestowitz[23:00] <schestowitz> no, not even system updates impacting konversationSep 26 09:21
schestowitz[23:01] <schestowitz> try schestowitz loggerSep 26 09:21
schestowitz[23:01] <schestowitz> it's xchatSep 26 09:21
schestowitz[23:01] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> nope, nothing with schestowitz_log eitherSep 26 09:21
schestowitz[23:02] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> both OTR and fish/keyx require a pluginSep 26 09:21
schestowitz[23:03] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> peer-authentication is compromised, except AdmFubar who supports OTR and his fingerprint matchesSep 26 09:21
schestowitz[23:04] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> maybe IRC server has some support too, but i was concerned with peer-authentication of the irc clients, which is compromised with your nicknameSep 26 09:21
schestowitz[23:05] <schestowitz> I know so little about OTR in IRCSep 26 09:21
schestowitz[23:05] <schestowitz> afaik, I never used it (consciously)Sep 26 09:22
schestowitz[23:05] <schestowitz> sorry if I'm a n00b at thisSep 26 09:22
schestowitz[23:06] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> nope, not otr, your client supported fish, which was very coolSep 26 09:22
schestowitz[23:06] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> i dropped the keyx 2021-09-06Sep 26 09:22
schestowitz[23:08] <schestowitz> I rarely use direct messaging in ircSep 26 09:22
schestowitz[23:08] <schestowitz> I never thought of irc as secure as pgp or sshSep 26 09:22
schestowitz[23:08] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> i patched irssi-fish today, because some bug was introduced with an update from upstream, and remembered your client did support it, but doesn't anymoreSep 26 09:22
schestowitz[23:09] <schestowitz> are you sure you did not use it with some other person whom you misremember as me?Sep 26 09:22
schestowitz[23:09] <schestowitz> we had a chat over irc once once beforeSep 26 09:22
schestowitz[23:10] <schestowitz> afaik, something about a site hostile towards usSep 26 09:22
schestowitz[23:10] <schestowitz> it was likely start of sept.Sep 26 09:22
schestowitz[23:10] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> i am absolutely sure, schestowitz responded with a clean keyx response 2021-06-22, and then i didn't query you until 2021-09-06Sep 26 09:22
schestowitz[23:10] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> got this in my logs, on encrypted RAID, and this wasn't tampered withSep 26 09:22
schestowitz[23:11] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> though, i dropped the keyx peer-authentication after it was invalidated by yourselfSep 26 09:22
schestowitz[23:13] <schestowitz> ohSep 26 09:22
schestowitz[23:13] <schestowitz> I see padlock nowSep 26 09:22
schestowitz[23:13] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> +OK 70H6F.Ll8s40Sep 26 09:22
schestowitz[23:13] <schestowitz> is that good?Sep 26 09:22
schestowitz[23:13] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> +OK WRJNR1ovHTH.cHR0D1WDCaA0qQxq/.7/zp.1FJMRZ.ce4F..3MhQp/kPrlD.Sep 26 09:22
schestowitz[23:13] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> +OK g4tUP1afZNn0VbK8q.F1xVr/XDXQb.RDWjc0Sep 26 09:22
schestowitz[23:14] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> +OK ebWEY1NeA/F0Vc0TC1xd/BM18oj1L/.IwIE0GTpeQ1oT6aL1J3mbX.sp9lh0JzFu3.J4/WR.GKR4o1SuDL1/sCqc./SVqmK/Cicq.0Q.LKy.6D1BF/TCXYR/4VUpG1KyJzE1tE7DX1VVYh0.GyFNY1dX4.L1Sep 26 09:22
schestowitz[23:14] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> +OK g4tUP1afZNn0oWpPF1KG7Qh.GV4qq.R7QaE1EKEIc.SD6uG10YA0J/PFzFI.LviyV0.phEU.Sep 26 09:22
schestowitz[23:24] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> +OK SKIrL0lPHoD19NIbc1BJAGy1AI1j5/9CR2G/xJx1A.47YD8.MbMA9/Q275H/fxUPP.CXRIs.qRfqE/eC4hr0PwNLP0sGE5y1EzseI0cScrF1Sep 26 09:22
schestowitz[23:25] <schestowitz> I see long hashesSep 26 09:22
schestowitz[23:25] <schestowitz> or obfuscated thingsSep 26 09:22
schestowitz[23:26] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> +OK ZdwUn.a0rfc.o9sS71dLd90.vAxQA.fNtw11OCEli0QJYHy1A0jRa/g1XJf0x08bm0icqBa0Sep 26 09:22
schestowitz[23:29] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> +OK HuvId19R1j21RihLv/RAeo61Sep 26 09:22
schestowitz[23:32] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 2021-09-24 22:25:21 | 22:13 -!- FiSH: Key for schestowitz@_techrights (ECB) successfully set!Sep 26 09:22
schestowitz[23:32] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 2021-09-24 22:25:21 | 22:13 <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > schestowitz , now i knowSep 26 09:22
schestowitz[23:32] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 2021-09-24 22:25:21 | 22:14 <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > keyx implemented some ECB mode, and i must explicitely request it, otherwise CBC is asked and failsSep 26 09:22
schestowitz[23:32] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 2021-09-24 22:25:21 | 22:14 <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > schestowitz i want to try something else, ok?Sep 26 09:22
schestowitz[23:32] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 2021-09-24 22:25:21 | 22:24 <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > anyway, thanks for now. let me know if you got a minute to spare.Sep 26 09:22
schestowitz[23:32] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 2021-09-24 22:25:21 | 22:25 -!- Finished conversation with schestowitzSep 26 09:22
schestowitz[23:32] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 2021-09-24 22:25:21 `--</home/guest/irssi/.irssilogs/2021/_techrights/schestowitz.09-24.log>->Sep 26 09:22
schestowitz[23:32] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 2021-09-24 22:25:21 |CLIENTNOTICES| -!- Irssi: Starting query in _techrights with schestowitzSep 26 09:22
schestowitz[23:32] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 2021-09-24 22:25:21 |MSGS| <schestowitz> > I see long hashesSep 26 09:22
schestowitz[23:32] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 2021-09-24 22:25:28 |MSGS| <schestowitz> > or obfuscated thingsSep 26 09:22
schestowitz[23:32] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 2021-09-24 22:26:53 |NO_ACT MSGS| <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > weird, i received your msg, correctly decodedSep 26 09:22
schestowitz[23:32] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 2021-09-24 22:27:08 |CRAP| -!- FiSH: Key for schestowitz@_techrights: aAhgqWNwKg1XVMEqbweEbxFc2nh/0x2dLdPqlsD/qwA (ECB)Sep 26 09:22
schestowitz[23:32] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 2021-09-24 22:29:23 |NO_ACT MSGS| <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > still scrambled?Sep 26 09:22
schestowitz[23:32] <schestowitz-TR> now it is OKSep 26 09:23
schestowitz[23:32] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> (e) and nowSep 26 09:23
schestowitz[23:32] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> (e) ?Sep 26 09:23
schestowitz[23:33] <schestowitz-TR> yesSep 26 09:23
schestowitz[23:33] <schestowitz-TR> I also see padlockSep 26 09:23
schestowitz[23:33] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> (e) sorry for the noiseSep 26 09:23
schestowitz[23:34] <schestowitz-TR> it's OKSep 26 09:23
schestowitz[23:34] <schestowitz-TR> I need to learn these things anywaySep 26 09:23
schestowitz[23:34] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> (e) i would have liked to test the /setk part, because this was the one that crashed, which i fixed and it doesn't crash anymoreSep 26 09:23
schestowitz[23:34] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> (e) coolSep 26 09:23
schestowitz[23:34] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> (e) okSep 26 09:23
schestowitz[23:34] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> (e) 1. please go to xxxxxSep 26 09:23
schestowitz[23:35] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> (e) 2. /setkey testSep 26 09:23
schestowitz[23:35] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> (e) 3. say xxxxx ;)Sep 26 09:23
schestowitz[23:35] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> (e) 4. /delkeySep 26 09:23
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