●● IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, January 27, 2022 ●● ● Jan 27 [01:17] *rianne (~rianne@joseon-jhg.17c.k31cok.IP) has joined #techbytes [01:17] *rianne_ (~rianne@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Jan 27 [02:35] *psydroid5 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techbytes [02:48] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [02:54] schestowitz https://joindiaspora.com/posts/22282896 [02:54] schestowitz Sorry, Doc Edward Morbius, if you found me repetitive or obnoxious. I cannot export my data, have not been able for years (exactly same symptoms as described above by Pavithran S), and moreover I think letting the domain just rot would be devastating for a whole plethora of reasons. [02:54] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@podmin@joindiaspora.com: # Hello JoinDiaspora there is some unfortunate news to share. Feneas will be dissolved and as Joindiaspora is one of the services. JD will also be shut down on 1 March. This is unless we can find someone who wants to take over the service. If you think you can handle the task please contact us via [hq@feneas.org](mailto:hq@feneas.org). You can find the original post below or via https://git.feneas.org/feneas/ [02:54] schestowitz I will try to reach out to fellow users like Glyn Moody and contact Lukas directly, by email. [02:54] schestowitz Submitting bug reports in a proprietary Microsoft site wont do much good at this stage. Its a token solution. [02:54] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> git.feneas.org | meetings/agm-minutes-2021-12-09.txt master Feneas / association GitLab [02:54] schestowitz If enough of us can pay a monthly sum to Lukas, maybe he can keep this going. If not, maybe we can find others who can inherit the account. Im willing to learn from some cheatsheert and work with others to preserve the legacy and take it forward. [02:54] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> git.feneas.org | meetings/agm-minutes-2022-01-04.txt master Feneas / association GitLab [02:54] schestowitz Lukas has done a MASSIVE service to so many of us. Hes not the problem and he shouldnt be treated like some support/customer service department. [02:54] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> git.feneas.org | Feneas GitLab [02:54] schestowitz If I get any meaningful updates, I will follow up here. [02:54] schestowitz Please contact me on roy at schestowitz dot com if you wish to join handed financially and/or technically to keep this wonderful community (and domain) going. [02:54] schestowitz Again. dont be harsh on Lukas. He does not owe us anything, we owe a lot to him! [02:54] schestowitz further context, archived: [02:54] schestowitz " [02:54] schestowitz Doc Edward Morbius - about 5 hours ago [02:54] schestowitz @Dr. Roy Schestowitz () Youre simply repeating yourself without providing new information. I find that annoying, and suspect others on the thread do likewise. [02:54] schestowitz If you earnestly think you can run the service yourself, then make arrangements to do so. Otherwise, youre trying to organise a collective effort among multiple parties on behalf of others (present users of the system), with a present operator who is AWOL and not responding to inquiries or requests. [02:54] schestowitz Filing a bug against Diaspora* over your inability to export your profile data on GitHub would be the Free Software thing to do: [02:54] schestowitz https://github.com/diaspora/diaspora [02:54] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-github.com | GitHub - diaspora/diaspora: A privacy-aware, distributed, open source social network. [02:54] schestowitz goobler [02:55] schestowitz goobler - about 4 hours ago [02:55] schestowitz Filing a bug against Diaspora* over your inability to export your profile data on GitHub would be the Free Software thing to do: [02:55] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@asrpphbur8fa4.irc) has joined #techbytes [02:55] schestowitz https://github.com/diaspora/diaspora [02:55] schestowitz No it wouldnt, because the problem is with the administration of the JD.com pod, not a bug in the export feature in Diasporas code. Only the podmin of JD.com can fix it. [02:55] schestowitz Doc Edward Morbius [02:55] schestowitz Doc Edward Morbius - about 4 hours ago [02:55] schestowitz Ive opened that issue on GitHub: [02:55] schestowitz Unable to successfully complete profile export data #8334 [02:55] schestowitz https://github.com/diaspora/diaspora/issues/8334 [02:55] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-github.com | Unable to successfully complete profile export data Issue #8334 diaspora/diaspora GitHub [02:55] schestowitz Ive done so on behalf of those who claim to be unable to export data. I dont have insights on the issue myself. [02:55] schestowitz I strongly encourage @Pavithran S and @Dr. Roy Schestowitz () to provide additional relevant information to that issue. [02:55] schestowitz @podmin@joindiaspora.com / Lukas Matt is also strongly encouraged to assist, both in diagnosing the issue and in applying an update if provided. [02:55] schestowitz >sfb< SigmundFreud'sBartender [02:55] schestowitz >sfb< SigmundFreud'sBartender - about 4 hours ago [02:55] schestowitz have you guys tried refreshing the page? I repat myseld but for me it did the trick! [02:55] schestowitz Pavithran S [02:55] schestowitz Pavithran S - about 4 hours ago [02:55] schestowitz I tried this so many times, it shows this. [02:55] schestowitz enter image description here [02:55] schestowitz Later if I refresh page it doesnt even show that I have requested export and still gives me the export button. [02:55] schestowitz >sfb< SigmundFreud'sBartender [02:55] schestowitz >sfb< SigmundFreud'sBartender - about 4 hours ago [02:55] schestowitz ah, I also did it seperately, just dowload the pics and give it another try. if nothing changes after refreshing give it another minute. [02:55] schestowitz goobler [02:55] schestowitz goobler - about 3 hours ago [02:55] schestowitz @Pavithran S and @>sfb< SigmundFreud'sBartender, frustrating as it is for you, its possible that each time you try the download button again, it sends the server into another load attempting to process your archives. It might be that the first archive attempt is still processing and that the server is now attempting to process multiple archives for each of you, which will be slowing everything down. I dont know that that is the case, but I [02:55] schestowitz think it would be worth waiting for a good amount of time maybe a week or more, as neither of you need to download your archive before late March. [02:55] schestowitz Peluza [02:55] schestowitz Peluza - about 3 hours ago [02:55] schestowitz @Pavithran S I think the restriction is on a user basis, i.e. I believe the server is configured so that no single user operation exceeds x amount of seconds and y amount of ram. Then when the server tries to fetch all your data it is exceeding one of those amounts and aborts the operation I have seen that problem many many times [02:55] schestowitz I dont believe there is any way to fix that if the admin does not cooperate, however i would indeed try to do it when the traffic is less in case the restriction is not user basis [02:55] schestowitz >sfb< SigmundFreud'sBartender [02:55] schestowitz >sfb< SigmundFreud'sBartender - about 3 hours ago [02:55] schestowitz which will be slowing everything down [02:55] schestowitz thats why I suggested to just refresh the page, and as I also said before it worked very well for me, I had no issues at all. [02:55] schestowitz Peluza [02:55] schestowitz Peluza - about 3 hours ago [02:55] schestowitz And by the way, my account was created in 2011 and I perfectly downloaded my data (but it is very small compared to any of you) [02:55] schestowitz Peluza [02:55] schestowitz Peluza - about 3 hours ago [02:56] schestowitz I have another great idea, you might try to fetch the data from the mobile web interface, i.e. by using the browser of your mobile phone (in mobile mode). Maybe the limit is not implemented from the mobile view. [02:56] schestowitz Doc Edward Morbius [02:56] schestowitz Doc Edward Morbius - about 3 hours ago [02:56] schestowitz FWIW, denschub (denschub@pod.geraspora.de) has closed the GitHub issue. [02:56] schestowitz If another repo contributor could re-open it, through at least 1 March 2022 when JoindiasporaCom is planned to go offline, Id appreciate it. [02:56] schestowitz Id also strongly appreciate those with data export issues contributing to that report. [02:56] schestowitz Doc Edward Morbius [02:56] schestowitz Doc Edward Morbius - about 2 hours ago [02:56] schestowitz Further, denshchub has locked the issue. [02:56] schestowitz If youve got actionable information, open a new issue. [02:56] schestowitz goobler [02:56] schestowitz goobler - about 2 hours ago [02:56] schestowitz If another repo contributor could re-open it, through at least 1 March 2022 when JoindiasporaCom is planned to go offline, Id appreciate it. [02:56] schestowitz Please dont do that. As explained, this is an issue with the administration of the JD.com pod (possibly server load), not a bug in the Diaspora core code-base. Opening another ticket will not help and is just noise/spam. [02:56] schestowitz I appreciate your frustration with the current state of the JD.com pod, but hassling the developers of the core Diaspora code will not help you. JD.com has been in a more or less broken state since at least 2012, if not earlier. Those are historical issues unique to that pod, and are not caused by the current Diaspora code. [02:56] schestowitz Doc Edward Morbius [02:56] schestowitz Doc Edward Morbius - about 2 hours ago [02:56] schestowitz @goobler Is there any insight you could provide on the nature of taht broken state and how it was or was not communicated to either members or the Diaspora* community at large? [02:56] schestowitz Ive been a member of JoindiasporaCom since May of 2012, and this is the first acknowledgement of this fact Ive heard, ever. [02:56] schestowitz Peluza [02:56] schestowitz Peluza - about 2 hours ago [02:56] schestowitz @Doc Edward Morbius can you see my profile picture? I cant either and there was a picture in there for sure. In the same way many of the pictures in my posts disappeared for no reason (some of them are public and you can see it) Those are the problems @goobler is talking about. [02:56] schestowitz Doc Edward Morbius [02:56] schestowitz Doc Edward Morbius - about 2 hours ago [02:56] schestowitz @Peluza No, youre a greyhead. [02:56] schestowitz JoindiasporaCom has had a number of issues with losing image data over the years. My own avatar was lost at at least one point, Ive cycled through a few variants over the years. [02:56] schestowitz Is it just the image data loss then? Because that was pretty recent 2021 AFAIR, not back in 2012. [02:56] schestowitz Doc Edward Morbius [02:56] schestowitz Doc Edward Morbius - about 2 hours ago [02:56] schestowitz @Peluza Heres the thread I recall, from four months ago: https://diaspora.glasswings.com/posts/11fede30078a013ac833002590d8e506 [02:56] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-diaspora.glasswings.com | #Joindiaspora and #Sechat had certificate issues. As a result both ... [02:56] schestowitz goobler [02:56] schestowitz goobler - about 2 hours ago [02:56] schestowitz Is there any insight you could provide on the nature of that broken state and how it was or was not communicated to either members or the Diaspora* community at large? [02:56] schestowitz Well, it was originally set up as a test pod for the founders to move fast and break things and actually ran on a fork of the main code-base for the first few years at least (there used to be a joindiaspora fork in the Github repo), on which Maxwell and other founders could write bespoke code. The enormous number of accounts signed up to that pod in the first few weeks in September 2000 always caused problems because the code in the alpha [02:56] schestowitz stage wasnt able properly to cope with such load, and when the code improved later, there were still residual problems with that pod. Admins of that pod have, over the years, performed a number of database hacks to try to improve responsivity, but this seems to have caused further problems. It has never been a really well functioning pod. [02:56] schestowitz There was a very long-running Github issue about the problems with that pod, although I cant remember its title and I cant find it at the moment. There was certainly plenty of discussion within the Diaspora network over the years about the problems with the pod thats how I knew about it, and why I moved to another pod in 2012, because my account on JD.com wasnt federating properly with the rest of the network although there was [02:56] schestowitz probably never an announcement about this from the admins of the pod. Keep in mind that as of 27 August 2012, JD.com was no longer an official project pod, but just another community-run pod operated by a volunteer (Maxwell to start with, and then Lukas). [02:56] schestowitz Doc Edward Morbius [02:56] schestowitz Doc Edward Morbius - about an hour ago [02:56] schestowitz @goobler I suspect you meant 2010, not 2000. [02:57] schestowitz Otherwise, thanks. [02:57] schestowitz goobler [02:57] schestowitz goobler - 30 minutes ago [02:57] schestowitz I suspect you meant 2010, not 2000. [02:57] schestowitz I did; that was a typo. [02:57] schestowitz " [02:57] schestowitz me [02:57] schestowitz " [02:57] schestowitz Hi, Lukas, [02:57] schestowitz Thank you for the many years of great service! Sorry to see you treated a tad harshly by some. [02:57] schestowitz I've contacted fellow JD users. Would you in theory consider a handover of the site to a bunch of us "old geezer" who have used the site since the early days? [02:57] schestowitz Regards, [02:57] schestowitz " ● Jan 27 [03:13] schestowitz " [03:13] schestowitz For anyone keeping score, mail to mailto:feneas@friendica.feneas.org is presently bouncing. [03:13] schestowitz I believe mailto:incoming+feneas-association-8-issue-@git.feneas.org fails silently. [03:13] schestowitz Both are listed on the @podmin@joindiaspora.com account as contacts. [03:14] schestowitz That leaves mailto:lukas@matt.wf as the only address Im aware of as working in recent memory. [03:14] schestowitz (Id included all three on an email in relation to issues raised over data export in this thread.) [03:14] schestowitz Michael Fenichel [03:14] schestowitz Michael Fenichel - 4 minutes ago [03:14] schestowitz Just as a fly on the wall (getting a lot of notices, and truly, I understand the urgency) It seems to me that some person(s) do not want to be contacted! [03:14] schestowitz A pity. I see so much talent and collective willingness to contribute, and (silence) [03:14] schestowitz " [03:21] *u-amarsh04 has quit (connection closed) [03:22] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@asrpphbur8fa4.irc) has joined #techbytes [03:28] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techbytes [03:30] *psydroid4 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:35] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) ● Jan 27 [04:02] schestowitz " [04:02] schestowitz @Dr. Roy Schestowitz () Thanks, I think our messages just crossed. [04:02] schestowitz Follow-up by email. [04:02] schestowitz " ● Jan 27 [05:17] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@asrpphbur8fa4.irc) has joined #techbytes [05:46] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Jan 27 [06:06] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Jan 27 [08:16] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@r8dui6smnhchc.irc) has joined #techbytes [08:24] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:45] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@asrpphbur8fa4.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Jan 27 [11:17] schestowitz
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    Learn About Blender and Maybe Get a Free Book Whats Not to Like?
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    EFF Asks Appeals Court to Find DMCA Provisions Unconstitutional
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    The Electronic Frontier Foundation is taking the Digital Millennium Copyright Act to court. This is nothing new. EFF has been fighting selected aspects of the DMCA since before the act was passed in 1998.

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    In this case, EFF is taking aim at provisions of the law that have in recent years become specifically problematic for the right-to-repair movement. These revolve around the DMCAs Section 1201, which makes it illegal for users to find ways to bypass Digital Rights Management software to access copyrighted material, even when they legally own it.

    • [11:47] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techbytes [11:48] *psydroid4 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Jan 27 [16:12] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [16:25] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@asrpphbur8fa4.irc) has joined #techbytes [16:57] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) ● Jan 27 [18:01] schestowitz Glyn Moody (@glynmoody): "bad news about Diaspora - https://joindiaspora.com/posts/22282896 underlines again the lack of financial support for #FreeSW #RedHat #IBM #GNU #Linux projects; a big problem we are nowhere near solving... (v @schestowitz)" | nitter https://nitter.eu/glynmoody/status/1486660076429524992 #nitter | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/01/27/#latest [18:01] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-nitter.eu | Glyn Moody (@glynmoody): "bad news about Diaspora - https://joindiaspora.com/posts/22282896 underlines again the lack of financial support for #opensource projects; a big problem we are nowhere near solving... (v @schestowitz)" | nitter [18:01] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [18:02] schestowitz https://joindiaspora.com/posts/22282896 [18:02] schestowitz " [18:02] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@podmin@joindiaspora.com: # Hello JoinDiaspora there is some unfortunate news to share. Feneas will be dissolved and as Joindiaspora is one of the services. JD will also be shut down on 1 March. This is unless we can find someone who wants to take over the service. If you think you can handle the task please contact us via [hq@feneas.org](mailto:hq@feneas.org). You can find the original post below or via https://git.feneas.org/feneas/ [18:02] schestowitz can you see my profile picture? I cant either and there was a picture in there for sure. [18:02] schestowitz Same here, my profile picture was also lost. I think it was a good reminder that the pod was dying. We as JD users must have been more proactive and rescued the pod or asked for solutions to move to pod. I personally saw that Diaspora project actively was implementing backup restore. Now my only wish is it should work and obviously a selfish desire to still have the old comments and friends I have discovered in this network. [18:02] schestowitz Ingmar S. Horn (vaxima) [18:02] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> git.feneas.org | meetings/agm-minutes-2021-12-09.txt master Feneas / association GitLab [18:02] schestowitz Ingmar S. Horn (vaxima) - about 7 hours ago [18:02] schestowitz OMG, oh jeh :( [18:02] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> git.feneas.org | meetings/agm-minutes-2022-01-04.txt master Feneas / association GitLab [18:02] schestowitz Pavithran S [18:03] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> git.feneas.org | Feneas GitLab [18:03] schestowitz Pavithran S - about 7 hours ago [18:03] schestowitz its possible that each time you try the download button again, it sends the server into another load attempting to process your archives. It might be that the first archive attempt is still processing and that the server is now attempting to process multiple archives for each of you, which will be slowing everything down. [18:03] schestowitz Dear @podmin@joindiaspora.com @zauberstuhl Please clear/reset the queue so that we could download of our profile could happen. [18:03] schestowitz Gary Hill [18:03] schestowitz Gary Hill - 21 minutes ago [18:03] schestowitz That is long overdue [18:03] schestowitz " [18:03] schestowitz https://nitter.eu/0xFreak71/status/1486657027401306117 [18:03] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-nitter.eu | (@0xFreak71): "Systemd is 1M lines of corporate code which does nothing at all. s66, OpenRC, runit can do what is supposed missing from standard init (watch and restart services if needed) with only few lines of code. So, what debianoids want from us?" | nitter [18:03] schestowitz (@0xFreak71): "There are no excuses, US and EU created a fake hot situation, while they are established NAZI government before a few years. Everyone knows this hateful mafia government has no people support. The whole scene is a redicilus theatre for the western media." | nitter https://nitter.eu/0xFreak71/status/1486654065345974280 #nitter | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/01/27/#latest [18:04] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-nitter.eu | (@0xFreak71): "There are no excuses, US and EU created a fake hot situation, while they are established NAZI government before a few years. Everyone knows this hateful mafia government has no people support. The whole scene is a redicilus theatre for the western media." | nitter [18:10] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@957jzbu5csdjw.irc) has joined #techbytes [18:17] schestowitz https://www.fosslife.org/3-open-source-training-courses-launched-linux-foundation [18:17] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.fosslife.org | 3 Open Source Training Courses Launched by Linux Foundation [18:17] schestowitz " [18:17] schestowitz Open source development skills are in demand, which is why the Linux Foundation has released three new training courses on the massive edX platform, reports Steven Vaughan-Nichols. [18:18] schestowitz The courses are: [18:18] schestowitz Open Source Software Development: Linux for Developers [18:18] schestowitz Linux Tools for Software Development [18:18] schestowitz Git for Distributed Software Development [18:18] schestowitz They can be taken individually or combined to earn a Professional Certificate in Open Source Software Development, Linux, and Git. [18:18] schestowitz Read more at ZDNet. [18:18] schestowitz " ● Jan 27 [19:58] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Jan 27 [20:46] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Jan 27 [22:04] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@f2uucmx8wdxxw.irc) has joined #techbytes [22:58] schestowitz Re: Smoked [22:58] schestowitz >> https://twitter.com/stautistic/status/1486509293230694403?s=21 [22:58] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@stautistic: @jhamby That may be true, but you also may be too emotional , too presumptuous, and too far out of your expertise i https://t.co/8QETa1rYEk [22:58] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@stautistic: @jhamby That may be true, but you also may be too emotional , too presumptuous, and too far out of your expertise i https://t.co/8QETa1rYEk [22:58] schestowitz >> [22:58] schestowitz >> [22:58] schestowitz >> Jake is an idiot. [22:58] schestowitz > [22:58] schestowitz > He kept slandering me in public. See [22:58] schestowitz > http://techrights.org/2020/02/20/no-back-doors-to-see-here-move-along/ [22:58] schestowitz > [22:58] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Former Microsoft Employees Dont Like Talking About Past and Present Microsoft Back Doors (Designed for Spy Agencies) | Techrights [22:58] schestowitz > Re GMO, we covered that a lot about a decade ago, you can find many [22:58] schestowitz > articles about this also in [22:58] schestowitz > http://techrights.org/wiki/Gates_Foundation_Critique [22:58] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights [22:58] schestowitz > [22:58] schestowitz > I don't think Jake is sinister, just misguided and not so pleasant to [22:58] schestowitz > debate. [22:58] schestowitz > [22:58] schestowitz > When he followed me it was mostly to throw snide remarks at me. [22:58] schestowitz >> Hes a dunce who doesnt seem to like using the left hemisphere of his brain outside of working hours. [22:58] schestowitz >> [22:58] schestowitz >> Imagine being so stupid that you see GMOs as a viable solution to anything. Yeah lets make more billionaires off the food supply ● Jan 27 [23:02] schestowitz Re: Continuity and/or trasnfer of JoindiasporaCom [23:02] schestowitz > Lukas, Fla, Roy, and any other FENEAS folks this might reach: [23:02] schestowitz > [23:02] schestowitz > I'm hoping to get some useful action or at least clarity on continuing [23:02] schestowitz > operation of JoindiasporaCom given the impending shutdown date and [23:02] schestowitz > announcement. [23:02] schestowitz > [23:02] schestowitz > I'm not sure if Jason Robinson is included at hq@feneas.org, if not he [23:02] schestowitz > might be a good add to this distribution list. [23:02] schestowitz > [23:02] schestowitz > Roy Schestowitz is one of several people who've expressed some interest [23:02] schestowitz > in continuing operations of the pod. I believe Fla of diaspora-fr.org is [23:02] schestowitz > another. [23:02] schestowitz > [23:02] schestowitz > I'm concerned that there appear to be few or no functional FENEAS email [23:02] schestowitz > addresses, though at least hq@feneas.org hasn't bounced yet. The [23:02] schestowitz > advertised feneas@friendica.feneas.org _did_ bounce as of a few minutes ago. [23:02] schestowitz > [23:02] schestowitz > There are also concerns over being able to successfully create and [23:02] schestowitz > transfer profile data exports by at least two users, of whom Roy is one. [23:02] schestowitz > I've emailed Lukas on that separately. [23:02] schestowitz > [23:02] schestowitz > I don't like volunteering people for roles, so won't. That said, if [23:02] schestowitz > there is anyone else who would be willing, able, trustworthy, and [23:02] schestowitz > reliable enough to either operate (as a live site) or host (as a static [23:02] schestowitz > archive) JoindiasporaCom, I'm open to suggestions. [23:02] schestowitz > [23:02] schestowitz > What I'd like to see is actual progress rather than theoretical [23:02] schestowitz > discussion, as seems to have been the extent of activity to date. [23:02] schestowitz I have contacted Lukas on 3 email addresses that I have of his. Still no reply. [23:02] schestowitz Yes, this isn't theoretical, I'm willing to form a set of "heavy users" to take over and keep running the pod. [23:04] schestowitz Re: Comments on Joindiaspora [23:05] schestowitz > Roy: [23:05] schestowitz > [23:06] schestowitz > Regarding my comments on the JoindiasporaCom thread on Diaspora*: [23:06] schestowitz > [23:06] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-diaspora.glasswings.com | Hello JoinDiaspora [23:06] schestowitz > > [23:06] schestowitz > [23:06] schestowitz > Public discussions tend to get noisy fast. Few people are capable of [23:06] schestowitz > understanding or responding effectively to issues. Keeping discussions [23:06] schestowitz > productive and _not_ scaring the fish / horses, as they say, is an art. [23:06] schestowitz > [23:06] schestowitz > I'm well aware of your views on Free Software (I share most of them) and [23:06] schestowitz > antipathy toward Microsoft (likewise). [23:06] schestowitz > [23:06] schestowitz > The final days of an online service whose code and support are hosted on [23:06] schestowitz > a service that is not going to change on account of your views is a poor [23:06] schestowitz > time to fight a holy war. Repeating the same points numerous times, [23:06] schestowitz > likewise. It's far too easy to render communications confusing or [23:06] schestowitz > counterproductive. Please help avoid doing that. [23:06] schestowitz > [23:06] schestowitz > If you're aware of export issues, *and* you can make a credible case [23:06] schestowitz > that there's a Diaspora bug involved, the please, for your own good *and [23:06] schestowitz > the sake of others who can't begin to grasp the concept of source code [23:06] schestowitz > or bugtracking systems*, file a bug in the Diaspora project at GitHub [23:06] schestowitz > giving as much detail as you can. If you've been aware of this for years [23:06] schestowitz > ... well, I just got tongue-lashed for being late to file and had some [23:06] schestowitz > curt words in response, but just between the two of us, speaking up [23:06] schestowitz > earlier might have helped a bit now. [23:06] schestowitz > [23:06] schestowitz > I appreciate your interest in taking on JoindiasporaCom. I don't think [23:06] schestowitz > volunteering third parties without their awareness is a good look ---- [23:06] schestowitz > I've reached out to Glyn Moody already simply to advise him that JD will [23:06] schestowitz > be shutting down (and haven't heard from him). If you're going to bring [23:06] schestowitz > up his name in public, do so _after_ you've talked to him about his [23:06] schestowitz > role, not before. Might save both of you some embarassment. [23:06] schestowitz > [23:06] schestowitz > I've included you on an email I've just sent to Lukas, Fla (I hope --- [23:06] schestowitz > I'm not positive of people's preferred contact info), and whomever is [23:06] schestowitz > answering hq@feneas.org. I'd strongly prefer _that_ disucssion remain [23:06] schestowitz > focused on continuity of JD. [23:06] schestowitz > [23:06] schestowitz > I said I sympathise with many of your views. Your execution, which I've [23:07] schestowitz > _also_ been familiar with over the years ... not so much. That said, one [23:07] schestowitz > of the principles of volunteer organisations is that you work with the [23:07] schestowitz > material you've got, and you're amongst the few who're standing up. I do [23:07] schestowitz > hope you'll find the ability to be effective, despite my doubts. [23:07] schestowitz I get your point. I really do. [23:07] schestowitz Behind the scened I had been in touch with some people, inc. our own at Techrights and Glyn Moody. I'm just waiting for Lukas to say something like, "YES! I'm ready to arrange a handover of keys some time next month." [23:07] schestowitz Whether we set up some org for this and whether we can handle it technically is another issue. First we need a reply. [23:08] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@957jzbu5csdjw.irc) has joined #techbytes [23:49] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@asrpphbur8fa4.irc) has joined #techbytes