●● IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, March 31, 2023 ●● ● Mar 31 [00:50] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techbytes [00:57] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Mar 31 [03:49] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) ● Mar 31 [05:16] schestowitz[TR] Thu, 30 Mar 2023 14:10:56 +0000 http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default?alt=rss [05:16] schestowitz[TR] Mr Thomas, that is the entire point. I really do n... http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2023/03/g-221-did-invention-as-originally.html?showComment=1680185456706#c8750193271176331591 [05:16] schestowitz[TR]
  • Mr Thomas, that is the entire point. I really do n...
    Mr Thomas, that is the entire point. I really do not know why.

    I can agree to disagree upon the interpretation of Art 84 EPC. What I am struggling with is what seems to me to be your wilful blindness to inevita [05:16] schestowitz[TR] ble, logical conclusions. However, if there are flaws in my logic, I would be happy to hear what those are. [05:16] schestowitz[TR] Thu, 30 Mar 2023 13:30:59 +0000 http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default?alt=rss [05:16] schestowitz[TR] That the UPC will assert primacy in the European p... http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2023/03/g-221-did-invention-as-originally.html?showComment=1680183059369#c7131342229641144111 [05:16] schestowitz[TR]
  • That the UPC will assert primacy in the European p...
    That the UPC will assert primacy in the European patent arena is very likely. But the EPO has no solid reason to worry, putting egos aside. The UPC is not going to reinvent the wheel. It will drap massively on the case la [05:16] schestowitz[TR] w of the EPO. This is what surfaced from the recent meeting of the juges in Budapest. [05:16] schestowitz[TR] Thu, 30 Mar 2023 12:10:28 +0000 http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default?alt=rss [05:16] schestowitz[TR] i was expecting a reply to my comment from your pa... http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2023/03/g-221-did-invention-as-originally.html?showComment=1680178228361#c3975485219558998061 [05:16] schestowitz[TR]
  • i was expecting a reply to my comment from your pa...
    i was expecting a reply to my comment from your part.
    What has to be said about the topic was said and there is nothing to add.
    I clearly do not agree with your conclusion, and you know why.
    We can at be [05:16] schestowitz[TR] st agree that we disagree.
    So we better leave it at this. [05:16] schestowitz[TR] Thu, 30 Mar 2023 10:08:44 +0000 http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default?alt=rss [05:16] schestowitz[TR] G2/21 is a very mysterious decision in that multip... http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2023/03/g-221-did-invention-as-originally.html?showComment=1680170924133#c6323528162493869567 [05:16] schestowitz[TR]
  • G2/21 is a very mysterious decision in that multip...
    G2/21 is a very mysterious decision in that multiple lines of case law are acknowledged and yet Boards of Appeal are going to be allowed the freedom to do as they wish in respect of the relevant issues. My speculation is [05:16] schestowitz[TR] that the Enlarged Board has realised its powers are going to be usurped by the UPC (and appeals from there to the CJEU), and so has taken the decision to set the EPO Boards of Appeal free in the hope they will remain independent of the UPC and CJEU. It is an attempted codification in EPO case law of freedom of the Boards of Appeal which extends to developing Board-specific case law, something which previously was assumed not to be p [05:16] schestowitz[TR] ossible. This means the Enlarged Board is very aware of the challenges to its authority that the UPC will inevitably bring.
    At a legal level, it is refreshing to see acknowledgement in the last para of G2/21 that case law needs to be technology specific. Again another idol is being broken on this very important and practical issue [05:16] schestowitz[TR] Wed, 29 Mar 2023 21:05:10 +0000 http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default?alt=rss [05:16] schestowitz[TR] Dear Mr Thomas, I am still at a loss to understand... http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2023/03/g-221-did-invention-as-originally.html?showComment=1680123910124#c430532021137692551 [05:16] schestowitz[TR]
  • Dear Mr Thomas, I am still at a loss to understand...
    Dear Mr Thomas, I am still at a loss to understand why you do not see the inherent problem with making statements such as "The difficulty in interpretation of the claims should then not be compounded by leaving in the [05:16] schestowitz[TR] description original statements which are at odds with what has been granted".

    I believe that we can both agree that the EPO does not (properly) determine the extent of protection conferred by the claims. It therefore logically follows that there is no way for the EPO to reliably determine whether a statement in the description is "at odds" with the claims.

    It is also clear that any inadvertent [05:16] schestowitz[TR] mistakes made when adapting the description to the (not properly determined) scope of the claims can add unnecessary complications to the task of interpreting the scope of protection.

    I know that we shall never agree on the correct interpretation of Article 84 EPC, but I am mystified as to why it is so difficult to reach agreement upon the practical effects and implications of our respective interpretations. [05:16] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | G 2/21: Is the technical effect embodied by the invention as originally disclosed? - The IPKat [05:16] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | G 2/21: Is the technical effect embodied by the invention as originally disclosed? - The IPKat [05:16] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | G 2/21: Is the technical effect embodied by the invention as originally disclosed? - The IPKat [05:16] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | G 2/21: Is the technical effect embodied by the invention as originally disclosed? - The IPKat [05:17] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | G 2/21: Is the technical effect embodied by the invention as originally disclosed? - The IPKat ● Mar 31 [08:33] *lightbringer has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [08:33] *lightbringer (mincer@freenode/user/lightbringer) has joined #techbytes ● Mar 31 [09:02] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@nqkitbgnqjad4.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Mar 31 [10:32] schestowitz[TR]
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    A DIY scissor lift for home theater projectors
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    A scissor lift was a good choice for this application, because it can be made very compact and still quite rigid. A winch-style cable mechanism would have been a bit more compact and simpler, but wouldnt have kept the projector from swaying something that would surely ruin the cinema experience. A scissor lift like this one uses the power of parallel linkages to translate short, high [10:32] schestowitz[TR] -torque movement into long actuation. It keeps the projector up close to the ceiling most of the time, but then allows it to drop down to the proper height when it is time to watch a movie.

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