●● IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, October 31, 2021 ●● ● Oct 31 [00:00] *Techrights-sec has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:00] *libertybox has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:00] *schestowitz-TR has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:01] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techbytes [00:01] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techbytes [00:01] *libertybox (~schestowitz_log@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techbytes [00:04] *libertybox has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:05] *schestowitz-TR has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:09] *libertybox (~schestowitz_log@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techbytes [00:09] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techbytes [00:10] *Techrights-sec2 (~quassel@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techbytes [00:11] *Techrights-sec has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:18] *Techrights-sec2 is now known as Techrights-sec [00:27] *leah has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:27] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #techbytes [00:45] *psydroid3 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Oct 31 [01:33] *schestowitz-TR has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:33] *Techrights-sec has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:34] *libertybox has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:35] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techbytes [01:35] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techbytes [01:35] *libertybox (~schestowitz_log@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Oct 31 [02:20] *libertybox has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:20] *schestowitz-TR has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:20] *Techrights-sec has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:30] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techbytes [02:30] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techbytes [02:31] *libertybox (~schestowitz_log@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techbytes [02:51] *Techrights-sec has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:51] *libertybox has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:51] *schestowitz-TR has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:55] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techbytes [02:55] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techbytes [02:55] *libertybox (~schestowitz_log@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Oct 31 [03:34] *schestowitz-TR has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:34] *Techrights-sec has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:34] *libertybox has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:48] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techbytes [03:48] *libertybox (~schestowitz_log@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techbytes [03:48] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Oct 31 [04:34] *leah has quit (connection closed) [04:34] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Oct 31 [05:06] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [05:53] *leah has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [05:53] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Oct 31 [07:40] *u-amarsh04 has quit (connection closed) [07:49] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@eganakf2bu9k2.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Oct 31 [08:41] *psydroid3 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techbytes [08:42] *Techrights-sec has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:42] *schestowitz-TR has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:43] *libertybox has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:52] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:54] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techbytes [08:54] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techbytes [08:54] *libertybox (~schestowitz_log@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techbytes [08:55] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@t6imvjz85t696.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Oct 31 [11:22] *techrights_guest|54 (~0514347b@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techbytes [11:24] *techrights_guest|54 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) ● Oct 31 [12:36] *psydroid3 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:49] schestowitz https://nitter.eu/thenicewizard/status/1454769865466826752 [12:49] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-nitter.eu | The Nice Wizard (@thenicewizard): "One clear example as to why millions dont believe their vote count. #Corrupcion #rich #poor #usa #mafia #power #usa #CriminalMinds #politicians" | nitter [12:49] schestowitz https://nitter.eu/thenicewizard/status/1454769865466826752 [12:50] schestowitz https://nitter.eu/zoobab/status/1454549832266391553 [12:50] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-nitter.eu | zoobab "NO Software Patents" (@zoobab): "They can indeed bypass the UK requirement with a Declaration, the question is whether it will pass the "legal scrubbing" http://mappinginvestmenttreaties.com/blog/2016/03/legal%20scrubbing-ceta/" | nitter [12:50] schestowitz https://nitter.eu/MarkBoslough/status/1454489763000438791 [12:50] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-nitter.eu | Mark Boslough (@MarkBoslough): "My rebuttal is in press. Flaws: Contradicts physics of airbursts Requires extreme low-probability event Evidence doesn't support hypothesis Authors tampered w evidence History of irreproducible results by authors Riddled with errors Involves creationism " | nitter [12:51] schestowitz https://nitter.eu/zoobab/status/1454550078140698629 [12:51] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-nitter.eu | zoobab "NO Software Patents" (@zoobab): "Unfortunately, they represent "Countries". No record whatsoever. No registry of documents. Pure diplomacy behind closed doors." | nitter ● Oct 31 [13:51] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Oct 31 [15:41] *schestowitz-TR has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:41] *libertybox has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:41] *Techrights-sec has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:49] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techbytes [15:49] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techbytes [15:49] *libertybox (~schestowitz_log@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Oct 31 [16:22] *sears_hardware has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:25] *sears_hardware (~search_social@akqta89mfqm5k.irc) has joined #techbytes [16:26] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@pizjd6872z3m6.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Oct 31 [17:24] *leah has quit (connection closed) [17:24] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Oct 31 [18:18] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Oct 31 [19:34] *leah has quit (connection closed) [19:34] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #techbytes [19:35] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@pizjd6872z3m6.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Oct 31 [20:34] schestowitz http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/10/aiand-ip-uk-ipo-consultation-on.html?showComment=1635575469018#c1098655050837880755 [20:34] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | AIand IP: UK IPO Consultation on copyright and patents - The IPKat [20:34] schestowitz | [20:34] schestowitz What externally vetted AI Ethics regimen will IPKAT / IPO be considering as guidance for future policy decisions? Will the IEEE Ethically-Aligned Design document (EAD1e), or the EU's Coordinated Plan on Artificial Intelligence 2021 Review be considered as part of the framework? [20:34] schestowitz The issue of Ethical AI is of world-wide concern, and as such, it should be considered of grave importance to employ as many viewpoints as possible to prevent myopic business-centric, monopolistic issues as has plagued Ethical AI deployment in the U.S. in recent years. [20:34] schestowitz My advice is to cast as wide a net as possible to gather those considerations, but definitely examine those initiatives from across the globe which are less profit-centric to avoid conflicts of interest spoiling your considered judgement. [20:34] schestowitz | [20:35] schestowitz http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/10/breaking-mercer-review-on-uk-patent.html?showComment=1635325723082#c6712667525871580064 [20:35] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | BREAKING: Mercer Review on UK patent attorney exams released - The IPKat [20:35] schestowitz " [20:35] schestowitz "There is very very little work on I&V projects in my firm over the 10 years I've been in the profession." [20:35] schestowitz I wish more attorneys understood better that ultimately infringement work IS what patents are actually FOR, and as such is the actual core substance of their work. No-one would bother spending all the money on prosecution work if they could not, at the end of it, have something they could enforce against infringers. [20:35] schestowitz This is why FD4 is important. It does not matter if you come up with a solution that is valid over the prior art, supported etc. if it is not also infringed by competitors ultimately making use of the inventive subject matter. That your work (but certainly not mine) rarely actually touches on I&V is neither here not there: the client would not even be paying you to do that work if they could not get something that was both I'ed and V'd when push [20:35] schestowitz come to shove. [20:35] schestowitz " [20:35] schestowitz http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/10/upcoming-cipa-webinar-on-mercer-review.html?showComment=1635321588581#c3654908836959814553 [20:35] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Upcoming CIPA webinar on the Mercer Review, 29 Oct 2021 - The IPKat [20:35] schestowitz " [20:35] schestowitz Fellow&associates do a survey every year which includes comparing international vs UK salary. Every year, international wages are consistently above UK wages, yet the exams in UK are more demanding. The idea that harder & more exams = better pay is not true. It only just delays or suppress the wages of a significant majority in the profession and therefore, when they do pass, alot of experiences are not accounted for in the increase of wages so over [20:35] schestowitz longer term, UK wages are significantly less than elsewhere. It is well known US and DE counterparts are paid much more handsomely than UK. I put a link down below. There are other things too that the survey highlights like number of training days given off. [20:35] schestowitz https://fellowsandassociates.com/filestore/Documents/FellowsSalarySurvey2021.pdf [20:35] schestowitz " ● Oct 31 [21:34] *leah has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:37] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #techbytes