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DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I got Mandy's Chromebook set up. | Feb 01 02:14 |
DaemonFC[m] | I installed the Linux subsystem on it. | Feb 01 02:14 |
DaemonFC[m] | Got LibreOffice installed. | Feb 01 02:14 |
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DaemonFC[m] | I might try Debian again. | Feb 01 02:49 |
DaemonFC[m] | These anti-GPL hit pieces that suggest nobody is using it.... | Feb 01 03:29 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's dropped by a few percent, but since 2011 the number of packages in Debian has also doubled. | Feb 01 03:29 |
DaemonFC[m] | So you kind of have to consider that too. | Feb 01 03:29 |
DaemonFC[m] | The Linux subsystem on Chrome OS is all over the place. Based on Debian, but with Apt sources on Google servers. One of the keys actually expired and Apt wouldn't finish updating, and then the bug on Google's tracker had a Google engineer telling someone import a key from an Ubuntu server. | Feb 01 03:31 |
DaemonFC[m] | https://www.alternet.org/2020/01/trump-bragged-his-wall-couldnt-be-knocked-down-a-long-section-just-got-blown-down-by-the-wind/ | Feb 01 04:38 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Trump bragged his wall couldn’t be knocked down. A long section just got blown over by the wind – Alternet.org | Feb 01 04:38 | |
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oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: really that wind was not exactly that fast did they fail to obey the old fencing rule of 1/3 in ground. | Feb 01 08:16 |
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schestowitz | [02:14] <DaemonFC[m]> schestowitz: I got Mandy's Chromebook set up. | Feb 01 10:24 |
schestowitz | crostini? | Feb 01 10:24 |
schestowitz | cruoton? | Feb 01 10:24 |
schestowitz | crtx? | Feb 01 10:25 |
schestowitz | don't do this https://itsfoss.com/install-linux-chromebook/ | Feb 01 10:27 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-itsfoss.com | How to Install Linux on Chromebook [Step-by-Step Guide] | Feb 01 10:27 | |
schestowitz | they can powercycle and wash away your chroot | Feb 01 10:27 |
schestowitz | and if you don't back it up, then it's all gone | Feb 01 10:27 |
schestowitz | without even warning you | Feb 01 10:27 |
schestowitz | use GalliumOS | Feb 01 10:27 |
schestowitz | or dual-boot | Feb 01 10:27 |
schestowitz | CTRL+D or CTRL+L at boot | Feb 01 10:28 |
schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GalliumOS | Feb 01 10:28 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | GalliumOS - Wikipedia | Feb 01 10:28 | |
schestowitz | https://wiki.galliumos.org/Welcome_to_the_GalliumOS_Wiki | Feb 01 10:28 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.galliumos.org | GalliumOS Wiki | Feb 01 10:28 | |
schestowitz | go to https://chrx.org/ | Feb 01 10:29 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-chrx.org | chrx | Feb 01 10:29 | |
schestowitz | I did lots of this recently | Feb 01 10:29 |
schestowitz | not for my own laptop | Feb 01 10:29 |
schestowitz | you might need to unscrew a binary thing | Feb 01 10:29 |
schestowitz | just make sure you have a good screw driver | Feb 01 10:29 |
schestowitz | then you dual boot | Feb 01 10:29 |
schestowitz | and Google won't mess with it | Feb 01 10:29 |
schestowitz | won't spy on traffic, either | Feb 01 10:30 |
schestowitz | " | Feb 01 10:30 |
schestowitz | Enable Developer Mode (process is model-specific; for Acer C720, press ESC+F3(Refresh)+Power), then reboot | Feb 01 10:30 |
schestowitz | Load ChromeOS by pressing CTRL+D at the white "OS verification is OFF" screen | Feb 01 10:30 |
schestowitz | Configure your Wi-Fi network if necessary, then log in (Guest account is fine) | Feb 01 10:30 |
schestowitz | Open the ChromeOS Terminal by pressing CTRL+ALT+T, and enter shell at the prompt | Feb 01 10:30 |
schestowitz | Update firmware, if necessary (required for Bay Trail, Braswell, and Apollo Lake models; recommended for Broadwell, Skylake, and Kaby Lake models; optional for Haswell models -- see chromebooks) | Feb 01 10:30 |
schestowitz | Run chrx: cd ; curl -Os https://chrx.org/go && sh go (see options) | Feb 01 10:30 |
schestowitz | Follow on-screen instructions to prepare your Chromebook for installation | Feb 01 10:30 |
schestowitz | Reboot, then repeat steps 2-4 and 6 to install and configure your new system | Feb 01 10:30 |
schestowitz | " | Feb 01 10:30 |
schestowitz | It's really that simply | Feb 01 10:30 |
schestowitz | *simple | Feb 01 10:30 |
schestowitz | provided you allow it to boot 'foreign' OS | Feb 01 10:30 |
schestowitz | first, you make a partition for it | Feb 01 10:30 |
schestowitz | it's very simply, one command | Feb 01 10:30 |
schestowitz | then you choose a distro | Feb 01 10:30 |
schestowitz | let it install itself on the new partititon | Feb 01 10:30 |
schestowitz | not intimidating once you did this in the past | Feb 01 10:31 |
schestowitz | and a good skill if you want to convert cheap laptops into gnu/linux workstation | Feb 01 10:31 |
schestowitz | good luck, DaemonFC[m] | Feb 01 10:31 |
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scientes | That Russian dismissive attitude comes from a genuine faith in Jesus, that then becomes its own religion. | Feb 01 11:16 |
XRevan86 | scientes: Boy you dig deep | Feb 01 11:16 |
scientes | XRevan86, 1 sec | Feb 01 11:17 |
scientes | about to dig deeper | Feb 01 11:17 |
scientes | Damn, I can't find the episode of winnie the pooh I am thinking of | Feb 01 11:19 |
scientes | just a bunch of others (besides the first) that I haven't seen yet | Feb 01 11:19 |
scientes | BTW, in US History class one of my assignments was reading "The Tao of Pooh" | Feb 01 11:19 |
XRevan86 | Jesus the Pooh? | Feb 01 11:20 |
scientes | and in the Tao Te Ching, Lao Tsu says "the ideologues are not intelligent, the intelligent are not ideologues" | Feb 01 11:20 |
MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19122436 | Feb 01 11:21 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Feb 01 11:21 | |
scientes | Anyways, in the one I was thinking of Vinne Poh brings honey as a gift, but eats it all on the way. | Feb 01 11:22 |
XRevan86 | scientes: That was in the first episode. | Feb 01 11:22 |
XRevan86 | Explains why you cannot find it, since you exclude the first episode from your query :) | Feb 01 11:23 |
XRevan86 | oh, wait, that was the second one | Feb 01 11:25 |
XRevan86 | * third one | Feb 01 11:26 |
XRevan86 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnie-the-Pooh_and_a_Busy_Day this one | Feb 01 11:26 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Winnie-the-Pooh and a Busy Day - Wikipedia | Feb 01 11:26 | |
XRevan86 | scientes: Anyway, it's about Winnie the Pooh being dismissive or something, he just did the Winnie the Pooh thing (couldn't resist) and then did a U-turn on what gift he's bringing | Feb 01 11:36 |
scientes | XRevan86, indeed | Feb 01 11:47 |
scientes | which was quite funny | Feb 01 11:47 |
scientes | and perhaps endearing | Feb 01 11:47 |
scientes | XRevan86, so there were multiple stories in the first episode? | Feb 01 11:48 |
scientes | Despite the very first story saying "there are many other stories---and mentioning the names of some of the others, including piglet, egor et cetera, ---but ..." | Feb 01 11:49 |
XRevan86 | scientes: It means the book | Feb 01 11:49 |
scientes | that one has "stranger" but Piglet doesn't know what piglet means | Feb 01 11:49 |
scientes | *piglet doesn't know what that word stranger means | Feb 01 11:50 |
scientes | XRevan86, ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, the book | Feb 01 11:50 |
scientes | (which I read) | Feb 01 11:50 |
scientes | also, Peter the Rabbit | Feb 01 11:50 |
scientes | but that is more christian | Feb 01 11:50 |
XRevan86 | scientes: It's just three episodes, which evidently you all saw. | Feb 01 11:50 |
XRevan86 | and then they kind of tell you "want more? go read a book" | Feb 01 11:50 |
scientes | while Winnie the Pooh is purer in the message it is trying to get accross | Feb 01 11:50 |
scientes | XRevan86, nah, I only saw the first two stories | Feb 01 11:50 |
scientes | "Winnie: Do I look like a rain cloud? Piglet: нет, не очин. | Feb 01 11:51 |
XRevan86 | bees, visiting and the Eeyore's tail | Feb 01 11:51 |
XRevan86 | three episodes | Feb 01 11:51 |
XRevan86 | не очень – not very much | Feb 01 11:52 |
scientes | XRevan86, yes, again I have problems with the vowels, because in English I just ignore them (but annoyingly memorize them) | Feb 01 11:52 |
scientes | a large part of this is the English ə | Feb 01 11:53 |
scientes | well, actually the English ɻ | Feb 01 11:54 |
scientes | which renders the vowels as ə | Feb 01 11:54 |
scientes | and yet the old vowel, before ɻ, is still there, for posterity (bullshit) | Feb 01 11:54 |
scientes | and we are required to memorize it | Feb 01 11:54 |
scientes | and even you have mem*o*rized all these fossil vowels | Feb 01 11:55 |
XRevan86 | scientes: well, https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Иканье | Feb 01 11:55 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ru.wikipedia.org | Иканье — Википедия | Feb 01 11:55 | |
scientes | Thanks for reminding me to keep practicing my Russian | Feb 01 11:55 |
XRevan86 | scientes: So what piglet says is "ñe ochiñ" | Feb 01 11:56 |
XRevan86 | е is indeed reduced to и | Feb 01 11:56 |
XRevan86 | but you missed that n is palatalised :) | Feb 01 11:56 |
scientes | hehehe, that old palatization | Feb 01 11:56 |
scientes | I did go to church service in Russian wendsday | Feb 01 11:58 |
scientes | didn't really understand anything besides. | Feb 01 11:59 |
scientes | ....its much harder in my IRC client than on my phone where I have a dictionary (and even voice recognition) | Feb 01 11:59 |
scientes | when I learned English I relied heavily on the spell checker | Feb 01 12:00 |
scientes | which Dmitry Orlov talks about: at least we know if something is a word or not | Feb 01 12:00 |
scientes | but that was in my 6th year of school | Feb 01 12:00 |
XRevan86 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vowel_reduction_in_Russian an article in English about ikanye/akanye | Feb 01 12:00 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Vowel reduction in Russian - Wikipedia | Feb 01 12:00 | |
scientes | and by that time Russian students already have reading and writing "down pat" | Feb 01 12:00 |
XRevan86 | scientes: Not knowing a word in English is the worst, yes | Feb 01 12:00 |
scientes | XRevan86, but it is a learned experience, I have learned that it is important to *not* study grammar or pronunciation, et cetera | Feb 01 12:01 |
scientes | the only purpose of such things is to solidify ones understanding *after* learning things | Feb 01 12:01 |
scientes | and to objectify it | Feb 01 12:01 |
XRevan86 | scientes: Well, there are important parts of pronunciation and there are unimportant parts | Feb 01 12:01 |
XRevan86 | vowel reduction is not important obviously | Feb 01 12:02 |
scientes | XRevan86, and I can learn all of those singing the songs at church (which was *super* difficult) | Feb 01 12:02 |
XRevan86 | scientes: Signing… well, then it's not exactly Russian ;) | Feb 01 12:02 |
scientes | but yes, you said before that Russian is *not* phonetic, and of course you are right | Feb 01 12:02 |
scientes | *singing XRevan86 | Feb 01 12:02 |
XRevan86 | oops :D | Feb 01 12:03 |
scientes | (looks back) oh yes, I had it right | Feb 01 12:03 |
scientes | you are the confused one | Feb 01 12:03 |
XRevan86 | Muscle memory, I need the word "sign" a lot more often than "sing" | Feb 01 12:03 |
scientes | but still much easier than English, was I was still learning after my (non-existant) bar mitzvoh | Feb 01 12:03 |
scientes | XRevan86, which have different vowels, thus why I totally ignore vowels in English writing | Feb 01 12:04 |
XRevan86 | scientes: Singing in church is done in Church Slavonic (the Moscovian variant) | Feb 01 12:04 |
scientes | and am having... | Feb 01 12:04 |
scientes | while I am having difficulty learning the Russian vowels, eventually it will be rewarding to have confidence in them | Feb 01 12:04 |
XRevan86 | ⇒ not exactly Russian | Feb 01 12:04 |
scientes | I guess Spanish is the same, but I like the *new experience* of learning new scripts | Feb 01 12:05 |
scientes | XRevan86, this is Jehovah's Witness----orthodox church service here is in Georgian, and when I went the morning after I expelled *everything*, including my bile---in order to burn a candel and give thanks for being alive---they refused me communion | Feb 01 12:05 |
scientes | they even had me hand it back (!) | Feb 01 12:06 |
XRevan86 | scientes: Oh, that I have absolutely no clue about | Feb 01 12:06 |
XRevan86 | "after I expelled *everything*, including my bile" – uh… | Feb 01 12:08 |
XRevan86 | you mean puked? | Feb 01 12:08 |
XRevan86 | intentionally? | Feb 01 12:08 |
scientes | not intentionally | Feb 01 12:08 |
scientes | I was sick | Feb 01 12:08 |
scientes | stomach bug | Feb 01 12:08 |
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XRevan86 | You worded it like it's a prerequisite for the ceremony | Feb 01 12:09 |
scientes | no | Feb 01 12:09 |
scientes | I was on the couch, feeling sick, curled up into a ball | Feb 01 12:09 |
scientes | and then i started vomitting | Feb 01 12:09 |
scientes | and then I also had diarriah | Feb 01 12:09 |
scientes | and then the bile came up | Feb 01 12:10 |
scientes | soapy, *very* important to eat some bread to wash down the bile and protect the throat, which is not made for that | Feb 01 12:10 |
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scientes | and when I drank some whole milk the next day, I didn't have enough bile to digest it | Feb 01 12:12 |
scientes | and I think my poop was even a little oily because of that | Feb 01 12:12 |
XRevan86 | scientes: get better | Feb 01 12:13 |
scientes | this was over a month ago | Feb 01 12:13 |
XRevan86 | scientes: oh, I'll need my TARDIS then | Feb 01 12:14 |
*XRevan86 sends "get better" back to the past | Feb 01 12:14 | |
XRevan86 | scientes: Did it work? :) | Feb 01 12:14 |
scientes | hehehehehehehehe | Feb 01 12:14 |
*scientes did not watch that series | Feb 01 12:15 | |
scientes | but appreciated the Monty Python | Feb 01 12:15 |
scientes | going back in time and giving Shakespeare a ballpoint pen | Feb 01 12:15 |
scientes | and then when the went forward in time and mentioned Shakespeare---"the inventor of the ballpoint pen?" | Feb 01 12:15 |
scientes | :) | Feb 01 12:15 |
scientes | so they realized the time-travel was pretty dangerous | Feb 01 12:15 |
*XRevan86 thinks that even having a ballpoint pen won't make one able to replicate it | Feb 01 12:16 | |
XRevan86 | as it requires a level of industrial sophistication | Feb 01 12:16 |
XRevan86 | apart from that the design is pretty simple anyway | Feb 01 12:17 |
scientes | XRevan86, I think you are right | Feb 01 12:17 |
scientes | But in "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance" he says that you would never made ball bearing yourself | Feb 01 12:17 |
XRevan86 | scientes: A ballpoint pen is a bit simpler than that | Feb 01 12:22 |
scientes | you still need the ball | Feb 01 12:23 |
scientes | much more complicated than a quill | Feb 01 12:23 |
scientes | and seriously, a quill isn't that bad | Feb 01 12:23 |
scientes | as long as you have high purity india ink | Feb 01 12:23 |
XRevan86 | scientes: The trick is more about manufacturing said ball | Feb 01 12:24 |
XRevan86 | hence my point | Feb 01 12:24 |
scientes | yes | Feb 01 12:24 |
scientes | it has to be perfectly round | Feb 01 12:24 |
XRevan86 | After Shakespeare get a ballpoint pen, he has just one ball. | Feb 01 12:24 |
scientes | you mean testicle? | Feb 01 12:24 |
XRevan86 | even knowing the end result he still won't be able to get there | Feb 01 12:25 |
scientes | oooooooooooooo | Feb 01 12:25 |
XRevan86 | scientes: A twist | Feb 01 12:25 |
MinceR | afaik getting the ink right was also tricky for ballpoint pens | Feb 01 12:29 |
MinceR | (not even counting gel ink) | Feb 01 12:29 |
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MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19122366 | Feb 01 14:13 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Feb 01 14:13 | |
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DaemonFC[m] | I usually show my disdain for the state by saying "Oh, that was such a bad idea they made it the law.". | Feb 01 15:06 |
DaemonFC[m] | But with regards to Apple products, I say "It's so bad that Apple made it a mandatory part of app design.". | Feb 01 15:07 |
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DaemonFC[m] | If people aren't being tracked, it's easier for a few lazy fucks to bring down the group average by screwing around and lobbing extra work on the people who are working. | Feb 01 15:32 |
DaemonFC[m] | It may sound bad that Amazon times people and has quotas, but if it doesn't it will end up having to hire more people to compensate for the ones slowing down and getting in the way, and then it will compensate for that by paying everyone less to keep its labor budget from going up. | Feb 01 15:33 |
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schestowitz | https://sciencebusiness.net/news-byte/brexit-looms-here-are-7-things-you-need-know-about-uk-rd | Feb 01 15:45 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sciencebusiness.net | As Brexit looms, here are 7 things you need to know about UK R&D | Science|Business | Feb 01 15:46 | |
DaemonFC[m] | Even if you use an ancient operating system like Windows 98 and the browsers dry up, the worst that happens is that the last one that worked still does everything it did when it was discontinued. | Feb 01 15:48 |
DaemonFC[m] | And there are still a few people working on browsers that still support Windows 98, and they can do that. | Feb 01 15:49 |
schestowitz | #techrights won't issue a statement on #redhat CEO becoming president in #ibm because | Feb 01 15:49 |
schestowitz | 1) we don't know his intent | Feb 01 15:49 |
schestowitz | 2) he's not CEO | Feb 01 15:49 |
schestowitz | 3) he did not oppose #swpats when I spoke to him | Feb 01 15:49 |
schestowitz | 4) we don't want to be too optimistic in vain | Feb 01 15:49 |
schestowitz | 5) we don't want to shame/pressure him (bad taste) | Feb 01 15:49 |
schestowitz | time will tell.... | Feb 01 15:49 |
DaemonFC[m] | Windows Me was amazing, in that it even worked at all. | Feb 01 15:50 |
DaemonFC[m] | I came across someone who was still using it on their main computer. | Feb 01 15:50 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's not just people hanging on to Windows 7. There's people still on Vista, XP, 9x, 2000.... | Feb 01 15:51 |
DaemonFC[m] | Eventually all of the computers that ran them will die. | Feb 01 15:51 |
DaemonFC[m] | But people are so resistant to change that they'll stick to it. They'll say "Why not? It does everything I need it to.". | Feb 01 15:52 |
DaemonFC[m] | We're long past the point where an OS basically did everything it needed to. | Feb 01 15:52 |
DaemonFC[m] | Now they're just looking to bloat them with useless junk so you have to buy new computers all the time. (Windows) or they just cease support at some random date (Apple). | Feb 01 15:53 |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I had to explain to Mandy "You can get a computer with Windows 10 for around $200, but it will be terrible. They cut corners. They never fix firmware bugs or drivers. Windows is a pig so the thing will run like crap.". | Feb 01 15:55 |
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DaemonFC[m] | "So, you can get one of those and just pray I can put Linux on it, or you can get a Chromebook." | Feb 01 15:55 |
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DaemonFC[m] | From a Facebook post of mine: | Feb 01 16:12 |
DaemonFC[m] | "Typically, every decent operating system (cough Linux) has a system copy of a Shared Object, and anything built for that OS can link to that, or third party software (Chrome for example) can statically link to the libraries it needs, and keep them in its own folder. DLL Stomping became a problem on Windows mainly because Windows "developers" are animals and they'll do anything they can get away with, and Microsoft | Feb 01 16:12 |
DaemonFC[m] | ends up quietly backing away and enabling it with more shitty hacks." | Feb 01 16:12 |
DaemonFC[m] | That's why Windows is such a mess. If Microsoft actually did "open source" Windows 7, as the FSF asked them to, then people wouldn't like what they saw when the kitchen light came on. | Feb 01 16:14 |
oiaohm | Really Microsoft cannot open source windows 7 because there have not been that many new features in Windows 10 that applications need. | Feb 01 16:17 |
XRevan86 | Nearing the end of Windows XP support software developers couldn't wait to drop it | Feb 01 16:19 |
XRevan86 | With Windows 7 that doesn't happen. | Feb 01 16:19 |
oiaohm | XRevan86: http://kernelex.sourceforge.net/ Question is Windows 7 going todo a Windows 95. | Feb 01 16:21 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kernelex.sourceforge.net | KernelEx | Feb 01 16:21 | |
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XRevan86 | oiaohm: I want to try that now | Feb 01 16:23 |
XRevan86 | Especially since now VirtualBox allegedly supports VMware's video drivers | Feb 01 16:24 |
XRevan86 | Windows 98 or Windows ME… | Feb 01 16:24 |
DaemonFC[m] | I got Windows 98 working in VirtualBox a long time ago. | Feb 01 16:25 |
XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: Now it can probably do custom resolutions | Feb 01 16:27 |
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MinceR | > DLL Stomping became a problem on Windows | Feb 01 16:35 |
MinceR | also because it hasn't occurred to anyone at microsloth to put the version numbers in the filename | Feb 01 16:36 |
MinceR | and because they like to refer to objects in DLLs by address | Feb 01 16:36 |
MinceR | 01 161749 < oiaohm> Really Microsoft cannot open source windows 7 because there have not been that many new features in Windows 10 that applications need. | Feb 01 16:37 |
MinceR | sure they can | Feb 01 16:37 |
MinceR | they just don't want to | Feb 01 16:37 |
MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TYT1QfdfsM | Feb 01 16:43 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AI "Stop Button" Problem - Computerphile - YouTube | Feb 01 16:43 | |
DaemonFC[m] | They open sourced MS-DOS 1 and 2. | Feb 01 16:44 |
DaemonFC[m] | Along with some notes to PC OEMs about how to build and customize it. | Feb 01 16:44 |
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*XRevan86 install video drivers from VMware Tools, after a reboot Windows ME updated the resolution and died forever. | Feb 01 17:06 | |
schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: yes, Windows ME... | Feb 01 17:09 |
schestowitz | Never used anything after win98 myself | Feb 01 17:09 |
schestowitz | except on someone else's terminal etc. | Feb 01 17:10 |
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XRevan86 | schestowitz: For my testing purposes either win9x works, or more precisely, doesn't work | Feb 01 17:10 |
XRevan86 | A pity | Feb 01 17:10 |
DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Their behavior with versioning is inconsistent. | Feb 01 17:12 |
MinceR | well yeah, everything they do they do badly, except for their anti-competitive abuses | Feb 01 17:13 |
DaemonFC[m] | I remember seeing the name "msvcr" and it was the 90s, and saying "There's a horrifying thought. The Microsoft VCR. When it doesn't eat a tape it's having a good day.". | Feb 01 17:13 |
XRevan86 | And it's just a C runtime, because C needs a runtime apparently %) | Feb 01 17:14 |
MinceR | :> | Feb 01 17:14 |
DaemonFC[m] | KernelEx managed to get Firefox working well enough to use on Windows 9x throughout the life of Firefox 10 ESR. | Feb 01 17:14 |
DaemonFC[m] | It was really around Firefox 11 that it started relying on Windows APIs that were neither in Windows 9x nor KernelEx 4.5.2. | Feb 01 17:15 |
DaemonFC[m] | I tried to install the Seamonkey web browser in the Linux runtime on Mandy's Chromebook for a laugh, but apparently Debian doesn't package it. There were instructions to enable another APT repository and then install it, but I didn't feel like doing that. | Feb 01 17:17 |
DaemonFC[m] | Neither hardware graphics acceleration or hardware video playback decode are supported in the Linux Runtime beta on Chrome OS 79, but maybe in time for 80. | Feb 01 17:17 |
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DaemonFC[m] | I'm afraid that changes to the underlying Mozilla platform will make porting Chatzilla to a newer Seamonkey browser impossible, but there's probably too few users that care about it to get it running again. | Feb 01 17:24 |
DaemonFC[m] | The ChatZilla website says it's impossible to add to post-Quantum Firefox releases, but oddly it appears to work fine on Seamonkey 2.53.1b1, which is based on Firefox 60. | Feb 01 17:24 |
DaemonFC[m] | Quantum began in Firefox 57, but Seamonkey is incompatible with most of it, including WebRender, Quantum CSS, and a few other things. Since Firefox 60 ESR supported being built without any of this and so does Firefox ESR 68, we might have ChatZilla around for a couple more years, but unless it gets some attention soon, that's unlikely to continue. | Feb 01 17:24 |
DaemonFC[m] | Rust is used in Seamonkey now, but it has to be because some components of Gecko are using it that aren't strictly part of "Quantum". | Feb 01 17:26 |
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DaemonFC[m] | https://www.reddit.com/r/seamonkey/comments/eh72cd/mozilla_doesnt_care_about_seamonkey_or_a_platform/ | Feb 01 18:12 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Mozilla doesn't care about Seamonkey or a platform. Why not adopt Goanna/UXP? : seamonkey | Feb 01 18:13 | |
DaemonFC[m] | Me: | Feb 01 18:13 |
*DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/HGIwQkwLAckPHKDysEppRTaO > | Feb 01 18:13 | |
DaemonFC[m] | Seamonkey will ultimately live or die with Gecko. For now, relying on the pre-Quantum stuff for CSS parsing and compositing works because it's still in there, but once Mozilla doesn't need it in Firefox, they'll drop it. So it's a stopgap to just rely on the old code. | Feb 01 18:15 |
DaemonFC[m] | Mozilla is moving away from it because it's old C++ code that is historically full of bugs, and which does not perform especially well on modern computers. | Feb 01 18:17 |
DaemonFC[m] | Judging by the last time MC Straver had to trash his fork of Gecko and rebase, I doubt he'll be able to "maintain" something that Mozilla is really no longer interested in patching up. | Feb 01 18:18 |
schestowitz | > Pls don't quote from this e-mail, just from my tweets. I will stop now | Feb 01 18:23 |
schestowitz | > due to pain. | Feb 01 18:23 |
schestowitz | Please rest. You are doing a good and important job. Many are watching and will watch. Guy and ILO are aware (I highlight them). | Feb 01 18:23 |
schestowitz | (a source) | Feb 01 18:23 |
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MinceR | didn't you just quote from that e-mail? :> | Feb 01 18:33 |
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schestowitz | MinceR: no, not the sensitive portion | Feb 01 18:41 |
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schestowitz | the email s stays only in "Inbox" | Feb 01 18:41 |
schestowitz | and uses a pseudonym | Feb 01 18:42 |
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psydroid | my experience with Windows: | Feb 01 19:16 |
psydroid | Windows 95 ate itself within 3 hours of switching on my brandnew computer | Feb 01 19:17 |
psydroid | Windows 98 had to be reinstalled more often than I can count | Feb 01 19:17 |
psydroid | Windows 2000 corrupted a small 2 GB partition with my documents | Feb 01 19:18 |
psydroid | and that's when I removed it from all of my computers | Feb 01 19:18 |
schestowitz | "How to turn the death of Kobe Bryant into up-spin for MICROS~1" | Feb 01 19:21 |
schestowitz | > https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/kobe-bryant-wallpaper-download-cryptocurrency-hackers-a9312041.html | Feb 01 19:21 |
schestowitz | > | Feb 01 19:21 |
schestowitz | > "Hackers are attempting to profit from the death of Kobe Bryant | Feb 01 19:21 |
schestowitz | > <https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/kobe-bryant> by hiding malware | Feb 01 19:21 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.independent.co.uk | Kobe Bryant wallpaper shows how hackers exploit mourning fans for cryptocurrency mining | The Independent | Feb 01 19:21 | |
schestowitz | > within downloadable pictures of the basketball legend. Researchers at | Feb 01 19:21 |
schestowitz | > Microsoft Security Intelligence discovered that a desktop wallpaper" | Feb 01 19:22 |
schestowitz | > | Feb 01 19:22 |
schestowitz | > I didn't even know MICROS~1 had a “Security Intelligence” department. | Feb 01 19:22 |
schestowitz | > Microsoft, the company that made wallpaper dangerous :] | Feb 01 19:22 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.independent.co.uk | Kobe Bryant - latest news, breaking stories and comment - The Independent | Feb 01 19:22 | |
schestowitz | LOL | Feb 01 19:22 |
schestowitz | .scr was always a bad idea :-) | Feb 01 19:22 |
schestowitz | Anyway, can't think if a way to mention this without feeding the trolls. Or Microsoft... | Feb 01 19:22 |
DaemonFC[m] | They had those 3d screensavers in Windows 95. | Feb 01 19:51 |
DaemonFC[m] | They used OpenGL because DirectX wasn't in the original Windows 95. | Feb 01 19:52 |
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MinceR | https://i.redd.it/voxejjxes5e41.jpg | Feb 01 20:29 |
MinceR | https://full.pr0gramm.com/2020/01/17/d0cd5ce3d6ae8fba.jpg | Feb 01 20:31 |
DaemonFC[m] | https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/ewvve9/can_we_all_agree_on_the_fact_that_reddit_should/ | Feb 01 20:55 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Can we all agree on the fact that reddit should stop using the chrome icon to depict a web browser even when you use something else. : firefox | Feb 01 20:55 | |
DaemonFC[m] | BaronHK | Feb 01 20:55 |
DaemonFC[m] | Can we just agree that they should knock it off and quit spamming their app full of ads? | Feb 01 20:55 |
DaemonFC[m] | Whoever wrote this should die in a gas tank explosion after a car accident. It shows up on a lot of sites. | Feb 01 20:55 |
DaemonFC[m] | When Google gets some fit and finish on the Debian Linux subsystem, there went anyone with three brain cells touching that had been using Windows laptops. | Feb 01 21:07 |
MinceR | (audio:important) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/01/16/a81635f832087430.mp4 | Feb 01 21:08 |
psydroid | I can see myself buying cheap used laptops for many years, wiping Windows and installing Linux on them for friends and family to use | Feb 01 21:14 |
psydroid | that will give a new dimension to the Windows Tax | Feb 01 21:14 |
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XRevan86 | holy crap, it actually let me in | Feb 01 21:22 |
XRevan86[m] | test | Feb 01 21:22 |
XRevan86[m] | Okay, this is hilarious. | Feb 01 21:22 |
XRevan86[m] | Hi from XMPP through Matrix. | Feb 01 21:23 |
psydroid | lol | Feb 01 21:24 |
psydroid | hi | Feb 01 21:24 |
XRevan86 | xmpp:#freenode_#techrights#matrix.org@matrix.org?join | Feb 01 21:24 |
MinceR | what a beautiful trainwreck of an ID :> | Feb 01 21:25 |
XRevan86 | (21:25:33) MinceR: what a beautiful trainwreck of an ID :> | Feb 01 21:26 |
XRevan86[m] | (21:25:51) MinceR: what a beautiful trainwreck of an ID :> | Feb 01 21:26 |
XRevan86 | One can see the latency of this contraption. | Feb 01 21:26 |
MinceR | lol | Feb 01 21:26 |
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psydroid | lol, I should not do that | Feb 01 21:27 |
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MinceR | even more so :> | Feb 01 21:27 |
psydruid2[m] | because now I joined twice on Matrix via XMPP as well as being on Matrix directly | Feb 01 21:28 |
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XRevan86[m] | psydruid2: https://www.pmg.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/leonardo-dicaprio-inception-movie-meme-face.jpg | Feb 01 21:29 |
psydroid | I think it's because the bridge is running on Half-Shot's own system or something | Feb 01 21:29 |
XRevan86[m] | psydroid: Which bridge? | Feb 01 21:30 |
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MinceR | https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/01/16/349eff7440b31eb4.jpg | Feb 01 21:32 |
psydroid | XRevan86: https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-bifrost | Feb 01 21:32 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - matrix-org/matrix-bifrost: General purpose bridging with a variety of backends including libpurple and xmpp.js | Feb 01 21:33 | |
XRevan86 | psydroid: Right. I was asking which – from XMPP to Matrix or from Matrix to Freenode | Feb 01 21:33 |
psydroid | XRevan86: from XMPP to Matrix, the ones from Matrix to Freenode are hosted on matrix.org itself | Feb 01 21:34 |
psydroid | at least I think that is the situation, but now I am not completely sure | Feb 01 21:34 |
psydruid[m]5 | I just don't understand why the connection from XMPP to Matrix isn't persistent | Feb 01 21:37 |
XRevan86 | psydroid: You want to use it as a bouncer? | Feb 01 21:38 |
psydroid | XRevan86, I am already using Matrix as that, but I was wondering why XMPP doesn't work like that by default, especially if it is connecting to Matrix via a bridge | Feb 01 21:39 |
XRevan86 | The bridge is already under strain (and it hasn't been announced, I just guessed that it's there from the yaxim 0.9.9 release announcement and some prior knowledge about bifrost) | Feb 01 21:39 |
XRevan86 | psydroid: Well, the bridge could keep a connection and log everything into MAM. | Feb 01 21:40 |
XRevan86 | That's what biboumi does. | Feb 01 21:40 |
XRevan86 | But that would mean having a MAM log, obviously. | Feb 01 21:41 |
MinceR | Manual Aimed Missile? | Feb 01 21:43 |
psydroid | XRevan86, yeah, I will have to rethink my infrastructure in the future, but so far it seems to work fine. I will set up an XMPP server with biboumi too as an alternative route then too, but actually I started using movim.eu a few days ago as well. | Feb 01 21:43 |
DaemonFC[m] | Someone posted an email from the US embassy in Baghdad. | Feb 01 21:43 |
DaemonFC[m] | They told someone to knock off the file sharing because it's not allowed on the government internet. | Feb 01 21:44 |
DaemonFC[m] | "You drove a meth lab to the airport!?" -Walter White | Feb 01 21:44 |
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psydread | so this is using biboumi on movim.eu | Feb 01 21:47 |
XRevan86 | It has a biboumi instance? | Feb 01 21:49 |
psydread | yes, it does | Feb 01 21:51 |
XRevan86 | Didn't pop up in discovery. I guess it's strictly for local users | Feb 01 21:51 |
psydruid[m]5 | It looks like the latency is much lower when using biboumi | Feb 01 21:52 |
XRevan86 | psydruid[m]5: It indeed does. | Feb 01 21:58 |
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XRevan86 | Phew, it left the room without any issues. | Feb 01 21:59 |
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psydread | I guess I'll keep using biboumi for now | Feb 01 22:02 |
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XRevan86 | from XMPP through Matrix bifrost | Feb 01 22:02 |
XRevan86 | XMPP → bifrost → Matrix → bifrost → XMPP | Feb 01 22:02 |
psydroid | haha | Feb 01 22:03 |
XRevan86 | The bifrost → XMPP connection doesn't work though, not sure why | Feb 01 22:03 |
XRevan86 | but I can actually observe it %) | Feb 01 22:04 |
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psydroid | I guess most of this stuff is pretty much still in beta | Feb 01 22:08 |
MinceR | https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/01/17/af27440369885545.jpg | Feb 01 22:17 |
DaemonFC[m] | https://torrentfreak.com/instagram-uses-dmca-complaint-to-protect-users-copyrighted-works-200130/ | Feb 01 22:22 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Instagram Uses DMCA Complaint to Protect Users' "Copyrighted Works" - TorrentFreak | Feb 01 22:22 | |
*DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/eyGRuoWofIKcxfmQzXQzRJSr > | Feb 01 22:23 | |
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schestowitz | Re: Interesting video> "It seems lobbyists want my videos censored" | Feb 01 23:48 |
schestowitz | > | Feb 01 23:48 |
schestowitz | > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GCsXL_prYw | Feb 01 23:48 |
schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2019/08/04/righttorepair/ | Feb 01 23:48 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-It seems lobbyists want my videos censored. I'M NOT DOING IT. - YouTube | Feb 01 23:48 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft’s War on the Right to Repair (One’s Own Computers) Makes Lundgren an ‘Enemy’ to Microsoft | Techrights | Feb 01 23:48 | |
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