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DaemonFC[m]Obvious 30 year old is obviously not 16.Aug 01 00:00
DaemonFC[m]What does the guy do? Sits down and eats a cookie.Aug 01 00:00
DaemonFC[m]Every time.Aug 01 00:00
DaemonFC[m]In walks Chris Hanson.Aug 01 00:00
DaemonFC[m]You'd think that since the 16 year old was theoretical they could send him to prison in theory, but he goes to actual prison.Aug 01 00:01
MinceRhe should have been richer if he didn't want to go to prisonAug 01 00:01
DaemonFC[m]That used to be on MSNBC late at night when I worked at that retirement home.Aug 01 00:01
DaemonFC[m]Those people had no idea what they were watching.Aug 01 00:02
DaemonFC[m]One was watching Stargate Atlantis one night and I asked her if she liked Sci Fi and she had no idea what I was talking about.Aug 01 00:02
DaemonFC[m]It turned out that she thought she was watching a cooking show.Aug 01 00:03
DaemonFC[m]With wraith, I guess.Aug 01 00:03
DaemonFC[m]And space ships....Aug 01 00:03
DaemonFC[m]<MinceR "he should have been richer if he"> Oh, it was always hilarious because they'd like splotch out the computer stuff except for the text.Aug 01 00:04
DaemonFC[m]But you could tell it was Yahoo Messenger or whatever on Windows XP.Aug 01 00:04
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: I never trusted Skype to have an important or sensitive conversation over.Aug 01 00:05
DaemonFC[m]The government wants to know everything, there's a server belonging to a tech company in the middle relaying messages back and forth.Aug 01 00:06
MinceRhm, i thought Wraith cuisine was pretty simpleAug 01 00:06
DaemonFC[m]How many ways could this go wrong? Let me think!Aug 01 00:06
MinceRnot really a tech company, unfortunatelyAug 01 00:07
MinceRa cultAug 01 00:07
MinceRthey could never do anything well even in the rare case when they triedAug 01 00:07
MinceRand they don't careAug 01 00:07
DaemonFC[m]<MinceR "hm, i thought Wraith cuisine was"> Colonel Sumner tartareAug 01 00:07
MinceR:>Aug 01 00:07
DaemonFC[m]I was watching the pilot. I said, "Oh something bad is going to happen to this guy. He is way too serious and unrelatable for a main character."Aug 01 00:08
MinceRno preparing, no cooking, no seasoning, just stick your hand on and goAug 01 00:08
DaemonFC[m]Less appliances to buy, but the storage space is kind of inconvenient. Aug 01 00:09
DaemonFC[m]Then there's the whole problem of them overpopulating themselves and having to agree to take turns hibernating so they don't have to eat each other.Aug 01 00:10
DaemonFC[m]Logistics....Aug 01 00:10
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz Looks like I got my first quarterly security rollup for my S8+.Aug 01 00:12
DaemonFC[m]It was bigger than a normal monthly update.Aug 01 00:12
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DaemonFC[m]No change log of course. Why would there be?Aug 01 00:20
DaemonFC[m] 01 00:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | NVD - CVE-2020-6616Aug 01 00:22
DaemonFC[m] is a domain.Aug 01 00:22
DaemonFC[m]NiceAug 01 00:22
MinceR:)Aug 01 00:23
kingoffrancesomeone actually told me that DaemonFC[m]   ""...and who will they [police] believe?"        some ppl dont even care if you or they are violating a law, they are fine lying if they think it will work in their favorAug 01 00:29
DaemonFC[m]I know, they're called the police.Aug 01 00:30
kingoffrancelolAug 01 00:30
kingoffrancei should rephrase: they are fine makign stuff up they think will "hurt" you if they think a cop will buy itAug 01 00:30
kingoffrance"the law" is just a weapon in that senseAug 01 00:31
kingoffranceor "weaponized" Aug 01 00:31
DaemonFC[m]The cops can easily just haul you out of your own house in the middle of the night because of a couple of fucking liars, consisting of your ex who you are still living with for some reason, and the illegal immigrant scum that he brought home off Grindr that the cops don't arrest while they're there because it's Illinois.Aug 01 00:32
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kingoffranceof course, if someone tell you that, you can lie and say you were recording it Aug 01 00:33
DaemonFC[m]Oh no. Recording someone surreptitiously is a felony in Illinois.Aug 01 00:35
DaemonFC[m]I asked my lawyer if I could just leave my voice recorder on to try to catch John admitting that he lied to the police and he told me don't do it.Aug 01 00:36
DaemonFC[m]You can get in even more trouble for recording someone admitting that they lied to the police than they could possibly be in for lying to the police.Aug 01 00:37
DaemonFC[m]kingoffrance: After everything that went on last year, I put a fraud alert on my credit report a second time yesterday.Aug 01 00:40
DaemonFC[m]I doubt Austin or John could do much with the bankruptcy fresh on there, but the fraud alert would stop them from trying.Aug 01 00:40
DaemonFC[m]I put a fraud alert on Mandy's credit to keep his sister out of it.Aug 01 00:41
DaemonFC[m]She'd commit a felony to try to rip him off for one shopping trip.Aug 01 00:41
DaemonFC[m]So I'm probably going to have to renew that one forever.Aug 01 00:41
DaemonFC[m]The first thing she did was try to take out a credit card in his name as soon as she applied to get him a social security number.Aug 01 00:43
kingoffrancewell sure but what if i just accidentally hit the wrong button on the phone in my pocket, pure coincidence :)Aug 01 00:44
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DaemonFC[m] 01 00:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | How Google is bringing Windows apps to Chromebooks - The VergeAug 01 00:49
DaemonFC[m]Google partners with a GPL violator (Parallels) to virtualize Windows 10 on Chromebooks.Aug 01 00:50
DaemonFC[m]There's already a way to run Windows applications without Windows. Wine.Aug 01 00:52
DaemonFC[m] 01 00:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | President Trump plans to sever TikTok from its Chinese owner, Bloomberg reports - The VergeAug 01 00:57
DaemonFC[m]Apparently, the concern with Grindr wasn't that it was creepy and invasive and sold your private health data to Facebook. It's that some Chinese investors owned part of it.Aug 01 00:57
kingoffrancewell IMO not only that, thats only a "concern" ATM         and the fact that ivanka isnt an investor is concerningAug 01 00:59
kingoffrancethey're concerns *now* when its convenient, they werent beforeAug 01 00:59
DaemonFC[m]The slap in the face to Wine here is that Parallels stole Wine source code for Parallels Mac, and then took months to confess to it and months past that to actually comply with the license.Aug 01 01:00
kingoffrancewhat i do know is it has been said china ==bad cop,  ussr == good cop   was a former strategy.      is that still the case?  i dunno.    i do know if it is, trump is playing right into their handsAug 01 01:04
DaemonFC[m] 01 01:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Human sperm roll like 'playful otters' as they swim, study finds - CNNAug 01 01:06
DaemonFC[m]10 ccs of liquid dream killer, stat!Aug 01 01:06
DaemonFC[m] 01 01:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Urban Dictionary: Liquid Dream KillerAug 01 01:08
MinceR01 015241 < DaemonFC[m]> There's already a way to run Windows applications without Windows. Wine.Aug 01 01:08
MinceRthere's also QEMU and KVMAug 01 01:08
DaemonFC[m]Liquid Dream KillerAug 01 01:09
DaemonFC[m](Famously popularised by the show "Rick and Morty") Semen. Most commonly used when referred to when a child ruined someone's life.Aug 01 01:09
DaemonFC[m]"You shot 20 CC's of liquid Dream Killer into my daughter."Aug 01 01:09
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: I never noticed until about the 10th time I watched that episode.Aug 01 01:10
DaemonFC[m]When Rick is chewing Jerry out for ruining Beth's life, the worm that's eating Jerry goes "Oof!" when Rick says "She could have been anything she wanted to be, and then she married you!".Aug 01 01:10
DaemonFC[m]"That THING survives because children wander off..."Aug 01 01:12
DaemonFC[m]Probably a reference to that alligator that ate the kid at Disney World. Aug 01 01:12
DaemonFC[m]CNN: Now, using state-of-the-art 3D microscopy and mathematics, a new study says we have actually been the victims of "sperm deception."Aug 01 01:14
DaemonFC[m]Oh, to be so stupid that you were outsmarted by something that most people just shoot straight into the shower drain if they know what's good for them. Aug 01 01:15
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DaemonFC[m]MinceR: I made the WRTV6 Indianapolis news account laugh when they posted a story about a semi truck full of toilet paper getting stolen back in April. Aug 01 01:18
DaemonFC[m]I said, "Yeah, Narcos really went downhill after Season 2.".Aug 01 01:18
DaemonFC[m]I liked it until Pablo Escobar died, but you knew that was coming because it really happened.Aug 01 01:20
DaemonFC[m] 01 01:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Google is now making it easier to find Black-owned businesses - The VergeAug 01 01:24
DaemonFC[m]That's racist.Aug 01 01:24
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: I wonder what 5th ward Alderman Leslie Hairston will congratulate herself for, for the 16th year in a row, now that the Stony Island Starbucks is being permanently closed.Aug 01 01:28
DaemonFC[m]You'd think that filling some of the lots that have been vacant ever since the 1968 riots would be an accomplishment. Not the Starbucks from 2004.Aug 01 01:29
DaemonFC[m]I was wondering why there were just hundreds of empty lots down there and found out later it was from when they burned their own neighborhoods down in 1968 to stick it to whitey. Aug 01 01:30
DaemonFC[m]Apparently, every time they want to show white people, they do it by burning down their own neighborhoodss.Aug 01 01:30
DaemonFC[m]Not a great strategy, but tell them that.Aug 01 01:30
DaemonFC[m]Naperville isn't within hoopty distance, I guess. Aug 01 01:31
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: KDE Plasma 5 August 2020 release for Slackware []Aug 01 01:32
DaemonFC[m]There could be a work stoppage, were there any work.Aug 01 01:33
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: When I was trying to find out more info about Microsoft's avoid ghetto patent, I came across a racist forum that was actually funny to read in a very "I feel bad for laughing about this." kind of a way.Aug 01 01:36
DaemonFC[m]One of them asked how to get away from black people in the workplace and the other said something like "Find a skilled job. That'll at least cut the number way down. It's amazing that there are any in corporate executive jobs.".Aug 01 01:37
DaemonFC[m]Then another one came along and said "It's not amazing. It's white liberal guilt.".Aug 01 01:37
DaemonFC[m]That's kind of what happens when people like Matthew Garrett get involved in something.Aug 01 01:38
DaemonFC[m]They say "Gee, it's terrible that there aren't the right number of this, this, and that here.".Aug 01 01:38
DaemonFC[m]So then there are, and it turns out that they promoted someone who is a complete idiot just to fill a quota.Aug 01 01:38
DaemonFC[m]Carly Fiorina is a great example of this.Aug 01 01:39
DaemonFC[m]They ruined GNOME. It nearly had to file bankruptcy over Outreach to People With Vaginas. Aug 01 01:39
DaemonFC[m]Then that got spun off, kind of. GNOME's still going down the toilet because the shitdicks who thought of Outreachy in the first place are still there.Aug 01 01:40
DaemonFC[m]You know how many more women there are in Free Software thanks to that? Not many. Certainly not worth the money they diverted away from their project.Aug 01 01:41
DaemonFC[m]Also, it's perfectly fine to continue to expect men to do shitty intern work for free, but you have to pay women.Aug 01 01:41
kingoffrancenot to be a broken record, but "and her J.D. degree from Loyola University School of Law" == golden ageAug 01 01:49
kingoffrancenot a shocker, just for the recordAug 01 01:50
kingoffrancei say that because when trump lambasts "liberal cities" or whatever...theologically odds are they are on the same "side"Aug 01 01:51
DaemonFC[m]He likes dirty lawyers.Aug 01 01:51
DaemonFC[m]He surrounds himself with lots of them!Aug 01 01:51
DaemonFC[m]If you are charged with a crime, you can roll the dice with the public defender's office, but it's a total crap shoot.Aug 01 01:55
DaemonFC[m]Some are actually very capable attorneys who are in private practice and are taking public defender cases even though the pay is shit because they're bored or they want to help their community.Aug 01 01:56
DaemonFC[m]Others are overworked and fresh out of law school and can get handed a first degree murder case as their first assignment. Aug 01 01:56
DaemonFC[m]At the federal level, looking at lower level felonies, people who got a public defender statistically got about 3 years, on average, in prison, in the study. People who had a private defense attorney got about 1.2 years on average.Aug 01 01:57
DaemonFC[m]They were statistically much more likely to get court supervision if they got their own attorney.Aug 01 01:58
DaemonFC[m]kingoffrance: So there's two taxes on facing the legal system when you're broke.Aug 01 01:58
DaemonFC[m]They'll offer you a shitty plea deal because you have a public defender. Then if you don't take it, there's a trial tax as well. Aug 01 01:59
DaemonFC[m]I've never gone that far into debt for any reason in my entire life, but I realized that if I didn't, I was probably looking at jail time, then probation, and then getting hit with a fine so big that I might as well have invested in a good legal defense in the first place.Aug 01 02:00
DaemonFC[m]kingoffrance: One of the things the cops lied about was how much jail time I was looking at.Aug 01 02:00
DaemonFC[m]In cases where it's only misdemeanors on the list of charges, in Illinois, they can't sentence you to more than 364 total days in jail. So if you're facing multiple class A misdemeanors, the max sentence is already 364 days in jail. So as far as jail time goes, as soon as there's enough misdemeanors on the indictment then it doesn't really matter how many there are.Aug 01 02:01
DaemonFC[m]It hits 364 total days and that's it. Aug 01 02:02
DaemonFC[m]But that's where the good news stops.Aug 01 02:02
DaemonFC[m]They can add up to the maximum fine and time on probation for each additional count you're convicted on.Aug 01 02:02
DaemonFC[m]So, theoretically, if they hit you with 10 Class A Misdemeanors, you could do 364 days in jail followed by NINE YEARS of probation if you get convicted of all of them. Aug 01 02:03
DaemonFC[m]Probation is pretty much an immediate jail sentence if you do anything else, and 9 years is an awful long time, and you're going to have to check in with probation at least 1-2 times a month for that 9 years.Aug 01 02:04
DaemonFC[m]Conceivably you could spend the rest of your life between probation and jail.Aug 01 02:04
DaemonFC[m]I got 4 months of supervised probation followed by 8 months of informal probation. Right now I have a "court supervision officer" managing my case, but I've actually never met her.Aug 01 02:05
DaemonFC[m]I just got an email after it converted saying "Call me at this number if you move to a different address. If the prosecutor can't get ahold of you, he may seek an arrest warrant. Calling me is better than ending up with a warrant.".Aug 01 02:06
MinceR 01 02:06
DaemonFC[m]kingoffrance: Point is, do you want a little bit of minimal probation or do you want potentially a year of jail and a year of probation (supervised)? Well, neither.Aug 01 02:08
DaemonFC[m]But the less they're crawling up your ass and the sooner it's over with, the better.Aug 01 02:08
DaemonFC[m]You get what you pay for..Aug 01 02:08
DaemonFC[m]Probation officers don't believe anything you're telling them.Aug 01 02:09
DaemonFC[m]You could tell them the sky is blue and fish swim in the sea, and they'll tell you to prove it.Aug 01 02:09
DaemonFC[m]This is my third time on probation, but they didn't know that.Aug 01 02:10
DaemonFC[m]One of them happened as a minor in Indiana and got sealed and the other one was just an arrest record and they couldn't view anything else that happened. Aug 01 02:11
DaemonFC[m]So it's been the first time three times now.Aug 01 02:11
DaemonFC[m]Bad company. Aug 01 02:13
DaemonFC[m]Either you'll get caught doing something dumb or people will call the police and lie to get you in trouble.Aug 01 02:13
DaemonFC[m]Either way, the system will totally overreact once they have you.Aug 01 02:13
DaemonFC[m]Government likes two things. Taxes and soul crushing violence.Aug 01 02:14
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Or as our governor said....Aug 01 02:15
DaemonFC[m]I'm here to raise taxes and rip out toilets. And I'm all out of toilets!Aug 01 02:15
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, let's raise taxes during the worst recession ever and see if things improve any.Aug 01 02:16
DaemonFC[m]I'm sure the government can figure out what to do with it better than I can, and needs it more.Aug 01 02:17
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: HOLY DOGSHIT! TEXAS! Only three things come out of Texas, boy! Steers, queers, and dead Trump voters being wheeled out of the Coronavirus overflow ward!Aug 01 02:19
DaemonFC[m]Anyway.....Aug 01 02:20
DaemonFC[m]Glass half full. At least this means they won't vote.Aug 01 02:20
DaemonFC[m]I got a confirmation email saying that the county clerk will start mailing out ballots on September 24th and that they got my request for one.Aug 01 02:21
DaemonFC[m]I can't say voting will change much, but the prosecutor that filed those charges is on the ballot this year and son of a bitch must pay.Aug 01 02:22
DaemonFC[m]Almost all of the elected officials in Lake County are Democrats.Aug 01 02:23
DaemonFC[m]If they're stuffing the box, that means that they'll get rid of him and if they aren't, then it means my vote is a vote to get rid of him.Aug 01 02:23
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DaemonFC[m]It's not exactly a red state/blue state problem of underpaid overworked public defenders.Aug 01 02:27
DaemonFC[m]In California, for every dollar they give the prosecutor's office, they give the public defender 53 cents, even though the public defender has to represent over 80% of people who get charged with a crime.Aug 01 02:28
DaemonFC[m]States give the prosecutor's office more money because the state WANTS to convict you because it's the state bringing the charges in the first place. The only reason most of them even have a public defender's office is because the Supreme Court says that they can't just convict someone who didn't have a lawyer at all, and even then, that ruling was made in 1963.Aug 01 02:29
DaemonFC[m]Before then, the states didn't even have to have a public defender.Aug 01 02:30
DaemonFC[m]It gives the state a fig leaf so they can just ram through defendants, convict them on an assembly line, and then say they were represented by a lawyer.Aug 01 02:31
DaemonFC[m]The state could just tone it down and quit making up crimes and overloading its own system, but that will never happen.Aug 01 02:32
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DaemonFC[m] 01 02:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | 6 Death Sentences Thrown Out For Boston Marathon Bomber : NPRAug 01 02:51
DaemonFC[m]Speaking of what happens when the government throws extra charges in because it can.Aug 01 02:51
DaemonFC[m]The trial judge knew that the jury was packed full of people who had made up their mind before the trial started.Aug 01 02:53
DaemonFC[m]It was very easy to prove that, and it was proven, and now all of the death sentences have been thrown out and they have to sentence him again.Aug 01 02:53
DaemonFC[m]This is an example of an American court functioning like a drumhead.Aug 01 02:54
DaemonFC[m]The First Circuit Court of Appeals did not overturn the death sentence because Tsarnaev was innocent or because they like the guy, but because there were serious and undeniably illegal methods used by the government to secure the sentence they got and it all fell apart. What's stupid was that it was unnecessary in the first place. It just had to seat jurors that hadn't posted to Facebook that they were very biased. Aug 01 02:56
DaemonFC[m]The integrity of our courts have been severely degraded by conservatives who don't care about protecting the legitimate process of law.Aug 01 02:57
DaemonFC[m]When you have sham trials like this, they should be slapped down. This is an example of our system working, although it should never have gone this far to get there. If Trump is in office much longer, we'll have even more judges who don't know the law, much less care about it.Aug 01 02:58
DaemonFC[m]The appointments being made by Trump are the worst I've ever seen go in front of the Senate. They're running a rocket docket in there for Trump's fake judges who can't even explain simple legal concepts. Who, for all we know, got their law license at a diploma mill. Very likely that all they know about the law is whatever they read on Wikipedia or something before the Senate hearing. That's what the Republicans do.Aug 01 03:02
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: 01 03:28
DaemonFC[m]Trump wants to give TikTok to Microsoft.Aug 01 03:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Microsoft emerges as leading suitor for TikTok’s U.S. business, as Trump considers ordering its divestiture from Chinese parent - The Washington PostAug 01 03:28
DaemonFC[m]Could explain why it wasn't at the "antitrust" grilling the other day.Aug 01 03:29
DaemonFC[m]"President Trump is considering signing an order forcing China’s ByteDance to sell off the U.S. portion of TikTok over national security concerns, according to people familiar with the talks, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss it publicly. Aug 01 03:29
DaemonFC[m]One of the individuals confirmed Microsoft was in the lead to acquire the popular platform’s U.S. service."Aug 01 03:29
DaemonFC[m]Another attempt to prop Microsoft up.Aug 01 03:30
DaemonFC[m]Skype fell out of favor after they spent way too much money on it and now they're working closely with the administration to get TikTok in a forced sale.Aug 01 03:31
DaemonFC[m]The "China" excuse doesn't pass the sniff test, in my opinion. We know that Microsoft is a PRISM/Five Eyes collaborator, so handing it off to Microsoft would immediately make it much easier to spy on everyone who uses TikTok, whether they are in the US or not.Aug 01 03:32
DaemonFC[m]PRISM pretty much makes your Google, Microsoft, Apple, and Facebook accounts an NSA trap. Any low level analyst can punch in your account name and start copying over your files and email and stuff.Aug 01 03:35
DaemonFC[m]The fact that TikTok has lured a lot of fools into using it heavily means that the US government wants to control it so that it can put hooks into it. Aug 01 03:36
DaemonFC[m]You wouldn't just have to be crazy to put anything sensitive on any "service" like that. You'd have to be bonehead stupid.Aug 01 03:37
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: If I ever talk to my attorney again, would you like me to ask him how many people the cops catch in Lake County because of stuff they put in Google Drive?Aug 01 03:37
DaemonFC[m]I'm sure that since he represents hundreds of clients per year on everything from speeding tickets to murder, he'd be in a better position than me to say how prevalent this is.Aug 01 03:38
DaemonFC[m]He's a real workaholic too. Aug 01 03:39
DaemonFC[m]Half the time, he even answers his own phone. Aug 01 03:39
DaemonFC[m]I put in an email for a consult at like 10 PM the night after I bailed out and he calls me like 10 minutes later and does a consult with me about it. I was like "Whoa.".Aug 01 03:40
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DaemonFC[m]I'd say there's significant performance and security wins by running NoScript simply to block the native advertising/analytics crap. The government has been developing quite the taste for that when it wants to do mass spying without asking a court to okay it first. It just buys a bunch of data from adtech companies who have been watching you browse and pinging your phone.Aug 01 03:42
DaemonFC[m]On my phone, I've been using that AdGuard DNS to plug that hole for in-app ads.Aug 01 03:42
DaemonFC[m]I'm sure adtechs get some of my data, but it's less comprehensive than what they get from some.Aug 01 03:43
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: "Microsoft does not have a creative social media company to sow brand recognition with younger users, though the Redmond, Wash.-based company does own professional networking site LinkedIn."Aug 01 03:44
DaemonFC[m]Doesn't mention anywhere that LinkedIn is falling apart and that Microsoft just sacked almost 1,000 people that were working there. Aug 01 03:44
DaemonFC[m]Off to the next thing. People should recognize the Microsoft brand. It's a warning sign. "Warning, company packed with pedophiles that makes shitty bloated software with government backdoors ahead. Run!"Aug 01 03:45
DaemonFC[m]I can scarcely believe that Microsoft's Fake Google has 27% of any market in search, much less the US. Everything they've done to "promote it", like hijacking your Windows 10 defaults and "search bribery" ("Hey kid, want some XBOX Gold and Rick Jones?") has failed.Aug 01 03:47
DaemonFC[m]I can think of various reasons Microsoft wants TikTok. None of them good. The article keeps repeating that Microsoft wants "Young users." Just over and over again. Probably wants to incorporate their faces into the databanks that it sells to the police and Trump's unmarked van thugs. Lots of bad things. Probably the most naked reason is another platform for their advertising though.Aug 01 03:50
DaemonFC[m]The police keep complaining that the facial recognition software they use or tap into (Ring and such) doesn't know how to tell one black person from another, and then also says they regularly use it as evidence in court. How does that work? Right?Aug 01 03:51
MinceR01 043039 < DaemonFC[m]> Another attempt to prop Microsoft up.Aug 01 04:07
MinceRare they paying twitler for this or is it just out of the evilness of his heart?Aug 01 04:07
DaemonFC[m]Both?Aug 01 04:08
DaemonFC[m]With Trump and corruption, it's like the Joker said. When you're good at something, never do it for free.Aug 01 04:09
MinceR:>Aug 01 04:09
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kingoffranceyes, facial recognition wasnt a problem for cops then all of a sudden its inaccurate ...Aug 01 04:14
kingoffrancei mean its possible they changed their tune legitimately, but then it becomes "so you roll out stuff without beta testing?"Aug 01 04:15
kingoffrancewe are the beta usersAug 01 04:15
kingoffranceim sure there are lots of scummy tech. surv. orgs -- but then its "you dont have any real tech. people you just buy whatever they're lobbying?"Aug 01 04:16
DaemonFC[m]Another Hurricane barrelling towards Florida.Aug 01 04:16
DaemonFC[m]Castro took a shit on America and the people he dumped out of his prisons and insane asylums have been voting Republican ever since.Aug 01 04:16
DaemonFC[m]That's a big reason that state is the way it is.Aug 01 04:17
kingoffrancenot to digress, but tangentially and very related IMO you also get the issue of any camera evidence being "deep faked"Aug 01 04:20
kingoffranceso recognition is one thing, but if people can just render faces...Aug 01 04:20
kingoffrancelast i saw they said you can make deep fakes but you have to label them suchAug 01 04:21
DaemonFC[m]Chicago has pretty much every inch of the city on camera and obviously that solved the crime.Aug 01 04:21
kingoffrancelolAug 01 04:21
DaemonFC[m]They just do it right in front of the cameras and the police are far too lazy and stupid to solve it even at that.Aug 01 04:21
kingoffrancepoint being, last i saw, they didnt even try to "stop" something i guess they know they cantAug 01 04:21
DaemonFC[m]During the riots, a scandal erupted where CPD officers that were supposed to be protecting a Congressman's office were sleeping in the next room over from where the looting was going on.Aug 01 04:22
DaemonFC[m]They were caught on camera doing it.Aug 01 04:22
DaemonFC[m]The cops don't care about the law, or your rights, or protecting anyone from anything.Aug 01 04:23
DaemonFC[m]If they won't even do their job to protect a Congressman's office, you're going to be rather disappointed when someone commits a crime against little old you.Aug 01 04:23
DaemonFC[m]<kingoffrance "point being, last i saw, they di"> How many cops there are has no effect on crime. Chicago doesn't have half as many of them now as there were in 1990 and crime is actually lower than it was then.Aug 01 04:25
DaemonFC[m]When all they're doing is sitting around collecting a paycheck and watching all the crime happen, it doesn't really matter if there's 7,000 or 70,000.Aug 01 04:25
DaemonFC[m]Life is at your own risk, and if you call the cops, your life might be in more risk than if you hadn't.Aug 01 04:27
DaemonFC[m]Even if you're the victim.Aug 01 04:27
DaemonFC[m]kingoffrance: In my case, they actually protected my attacker.Aug 01 04:28
DaemonFC[m]They arrested him on a felony and then the prosecutor said cut him loose.Aug 01 04:28
DaemonFC[m]So he high tailed it back up to Wisconsin, and by the time the cops had a misdemeanor warrant out that nobody is ever going to bother serving on him, it was too late.Aug 01 04:28
DaemonFC[m]Now if it wasn't for the cops, my idea of solving the problem might have solved it permanently so that he never hurt anyone again.Aug 01 04:29
DaemonFC[m]Instead, I had to sit there continuing to be clunked over the head going "If I kill him, they're going to send me away forever.".Aug 01 04:29
DaemonFC[m]Waiting for what seemed like 3 hours on the police to come in and stop him.Aug 01 04:30
DaemonFC[m]kingoffrance: "I am incapable of dealing with this threat. Or, more correctly, I am perfectly capable of dealing with this threat, but the protocols imposed upon me do not allow it.".Aug 01 04:31
DaemonFC[m](The car in Rick & Morty.)Aug 01 04:31
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DaemonFC[m]Well, what if you sit backwards on it?Aug 01 05:27
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kingoffrancetil about ac slaterAug 01 05:58
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DaemonFC[m]Our society is in advanced decay. I won't lie. I'm part of it.Aug 01 06:01
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DaemonFC[m]I think it's weird that Google won't sell Chromebooks in poorer countries. Aug 01 07:14
DaemonFC[m]Maybe they're worried that instead of "consuming content", they'll just do what I did with Mandy's and shove actual applications into the Linux subsystem so he can use it as a real computer.Aug 01 07:15
DaemonFC[m]There's really nothing stopping you from installing any bittorrent program that's available in Debian now.Aug 01 07:15
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schestowitz[07:14] <DaemonFC[m]> I think it's weird that Google won't sell Chromebooks in poorer countries. Aug 01 07:53
schestowitzIn Mandy's countries those are nowhere to be foundAug 01 07:53
DaemonFC[m]I suppose you could import one.Aug 01 07:54
schestowitzWe checked every store in a mall, it's 100% Windows everywhere. Microsoft has this US colony by the balls.Aug 01 07:54
schestowitzExcept on phonesAug 01 07:54
schestowitzAndroid.Aug 01 07:54
schestowitzI might do an article about TikTOk laterAug 01 07:54
schestowitzbear in mind some of it is still speculativeAug 01 07:54
DaemonFC[m]Whoever gets them, it will still be a bad idea to use it.Aug 01 07:56
schestowitz"The purchase rumors for Tiktok are likely a distraction from Microsoft layoffs or similar bad news."Aug 01 07:56
schestowitzSomeone sent me thisAug 01 07:56
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DaemonFC[m]Looks like KMart is finally finished.Aug 01 08:09
DaemonFC[m]Wow. 43 stores left. I remember when there was one in nearly every town in the US.Aug 01 08:09
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: It was my dad's favorite place to go, almost. He's always made good money, but he'll turn a penny over three times before spending it. Aug 01 08:13
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schestowitza thousands?Aug 01 08:29
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schestowitzpeople assume that folks will always buy food, which is correct, BUT...Aug 01 08:30
schestowitzThe premiums in some of these stores are NOT foodAug 01 08:30
schestowitzplus, people buy cheaper foodsAug 01 08:30
schestowitzthe lower scale, the basicsAug 01 08:30
schestowitzthere's a difference between going into Asda/Sainsburys (Walmart) here to buy some rice and pasta and coming in to buy veal (calf) dishes, 10 bottles of Aussie wine, plus a nice toaster in the hardware department and 3 pairs of branded jeansAug 01 08:32
schestowitzso the average buyer will aim for less, esp. the low-margin itemsAug 01 08:32
schestowitzthese store tend to have low-margin baitAug 01 08:33
schestowitzsometimes selling at a loss, due to operating expensesAug 01 08:34
schestowitzthen upselling a bunch of overpriced because of 'consumer' convenience (I'm already here, so..)Aug 01 08:34
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schestowitz[03:37] <DaemonFC[m]> schestowitz: If I ever talk to my attorney again, would you like me to ask him how many people the cops catch in Lake County because of stuff they put in Google Drive?Aug 01 13:50
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: yes, ryan, pleaseAug 01 13:50
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Ariadneto be fair, if you're putting your drug deal or other criminal plans on google driveAug 01 14:39
Ariadneyou kind of deserve itAug 01 14:39
schestowitzunmarked vans love gdrive alsoAug 01 14:40
schestowitzlike brochures of protest plansAug 01 14:40
AriadneyesAug 01 14:40
Ariadneagain, this is horrible opsecAug 01 14:40
schestowitzso we need to think not of the worst offensesAug 01 14:40
Ariadneno sympathy for people who have opsec that is that badAug 01 14:40
schestowitz"Dark web" = pedo, terror etc. hence privacy = crimeAug 01 14:40
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XRevan86Can "capital punishment" count as a euphemism?Aug 01 15:17
MinceRprobably not: 01 15:18
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XRevan86MinceR: I know, like "captain", etc.Aug 01 15:20
XRevan86head of stateAug 01 15:20
XRevan86MinceR: Still "head punishment" doesn't exactly register like "execution" or "beheading" doAug 01 15:21
XRevan86or "decapitation" on a Latin mannerAug 01 15:21
MinceRpunishment by beheadingAug 01 15:22
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XRevan86I would still call it "execution" rather than "punishment"Aug 01 15:29
XRevan86executions are not to punish someone, they're terminationAug 01 15:29
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DaemonFC[m]USCIS is raising all their immigration fees.Aug 01 20:34
DaemonFC[m]Including asking for a work permit ($550 instead of $410).Aug 01 20:34
DaemonFC[m]Mom's favorite president strikes again. This is going to cost me thousands of dollars, but she doesn't care because she's drinking the Fox News Kool Aid where they have Trump people on there saying Mexicans are a bunch of narco terrorists who want to skull fuck people.Aug 01 20:35
DaemonFC[m]Everyone knows how completely full of shit the Republican Party is today, including hundreds of Bush Administration officials and former Republican governors and state legislators who have endorsed Joe Biden.Aug 01 20:37
DaemonFC[m]Biden will win, but the Democratic Party will become more of a coalition government than anything even remotely resembling the party of FDR. So I would not count on a New Deal. Just a return to policies like George W. Bush's instead of the Insane Clown Posse that my mom is a card carrying member of.Aug 01 20:38
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DaemonFC[m]Trump is still living in the 1970s where the suburbs are packed full of white housewives who are afraid of being raped by a "big buck n****r" and that's, of course, why they moved there. So his strategy with deploying his SA wannabes at the Department of Homeland Stupidity has been to show to these people that blacks are "all criminals" and he has the situation "under control", despite the fact that the problem wasAug 01 20:46
DaemonFC[m]largely created by his Goon Squad stirring the shit in the first place, and that it largely subsided when they were pulled back.Aug 01 20:46
DaemonFC[m]It didn't move the needle at all, really, because you have to get to #7 on the list of concerns of people in the suburbs before you get to crime, which is at 6%. Aug 01 20:46
DaemonFC[m]The two that register with the suburbs are that they're losing their jobs and because of Trump's incompetent handling of the Coronavirus, many are also in line to be dragged into the local court to lose their home.Aug 01 20:47
DaemonFC[m]So crime is off in the distance and what the banks WILL do to them in a month or three is front and center.Aug 01 20:48
DaemonFC[m]Unless they've somehow missed the 478 nasty letters that their mortgage, student loan, credit card, and vehicle finance companies have sent them. You can really fill a walk in closet with the mail you get after you start missing bill payments, and the Republican party walking out and leaving people on unemployment hanging high and dry is not going to work out well for them in the election. I have a feeling that theAug 01 20:51
DaemonFC[m]corporate media will continue churning out articles like "What if you have TOO MUCH money in the bank?", "Making $100,000 a year and still feeling broke? Maybe you're a HENRY!", and so on and so fort, all the way to the scene of the crash.Aug 01 20:51
DaemonFC[m]So, how am I feeling about the USCIS people trying to fuck me and Mandy? Well, at least a lot of people who voted for Trump are drowning in their own shit. At least there's that. Many of them who thought there would be no consequences for being imbeciles are finally seeing what it's cost them.Aug 01 21:04
DaemonFC[m]When this all began, Trump's approval rating wasn't doing too bad for him. It was 49% and a little more, but now it's holding pretty steady at 40% or so. So I think that almost all the people who ever will say, "You know what? Enough!" are there now, but I could be wrong. If the Republicans are seriously dumb enough to just cut town and let the fur fly as far as evictions, bankruptcies, etc. right before the electionAug 01 21:06
DaemonFC[m]it only gets worse for them and Trump.Aug 01 21:06
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DaemonFC[m]Mom called and said people are panic buying again in some places. I guarantee you that it's because they know their unemployment is going away and they want to make sure there's food in the house one last time before it happens.Aug 01 21:07
DaemonFC[m]Next stop is to wait until the landlord/bank has the sheriff breathing down their necks and file bankruptcy. You really want to wait until the last minute because it only slows them down by 3-5 months and then they can resume the process, but filing bankruptcy is cheaper than a month's rent and if it slows them down that much it's worth a try.Aug 01 21:09
DaemonFC[m]So most of those 30 million people will still be in their house, but they'll be on the brink of losing it when the voting starts. If I was a politician that's the last place I'd want to be.Aug 01 21:12
DaemonFC[m]If your bankruptcy does not go through for whatever reason, the court usually bans you from filing another one for 90 days.Aug 01 21:13
DaemonFC[m]Unless you did something incredibly messed up, in which case they can ban you for 1 or 3 years, or forever and refer it for prosecution.Aug 01 21:14
DaemonFC[m]I was reading the case of one woman who kept filing bankruptcy and then filing Adversarial Motions against people like her husband and the lawyer who represented him in divorce court 3 years ago.Aug 01 21:15
DaemonFC[m]The court explained that it was a bankruptcy court and what an AP was, and demanded that she explain how the AP process was supposed to work against her husband and his divorce lawyer, and she showed up and read the letter that came with the Coroonavirus stimulus check and then couldn't explain how it was relevant. Aug 01 21:16
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DaemonFC[m]The bankruptcy courts are pretty limited in what they can do. If the Trustee determines you've done something so bad it's criminal, he can refer you to the US Attorney for your district and you might be prosecuted, but it will be in the federal court in your district. Aug 01 21:18
DaemonFC[m]Usually the easiest thing to come at you with in that case would be perjury charges. Aug 01 21:19
DaemonFC[m]So if anything you said on your filing was not accurate, expect at least that.Aug 01 21:19
DaemonFC[m]If there is a mass bankruptcy wave coming, I suspect that people would wait to try to pull a fast one while the court is bogged down in a complete mess and simply does not have the time to investigate. Aug 01 21:21
DaemonFC[m]"The US will join only three other countries -- Australia, Fiji, and Iran -- imposing asylum fees."Aug 01 21:25
DaemonFC[m]It's a $50 fee. I mean, come on.Aug 01 21:26
DaemonFC[m]Look at what they're doing to me and Mandy, and he didn't just run across a border and say "I'm here now!".Aug 01 21:26
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Yeah, KMart used to be the king of cheap, but they didn't get into the grocery business until years after Walmart started the Supercenter thing.Aug 01 21:31
DaemonFC[m]So they missed a huge opportunity. They weren't set up to handle an economy where people had to be so frugal that they bought their groceries at a superstore that also carried their cheap clothes and stuff.Aug 01 21:32
DaemonFC[m]The standalone grocery store is so expensive compared with Walmart that I haven't ever shopped at one for my main source of groceries in the 18 years I've been doing grocery shopping.Aug 01 21:33
DaemonFC[m]Take whatever you spend at Walmart and add about 30% and you'll get an idea of what you'd pay at the grocery store. So obviously that's what the in-laws do, and it's the same exact stuff.Aug 01 21:34
DaemonFC[m]Many of the grocery chains have struggles and gone under and the only ones that still do okay are in areas where a Walmart could never open.Aug 01 21:34
DaemonFC[m]Or a place where people have enough money that they don't really care where it ends up. I'd say that Kroger at least diversified and played to market segmentation pretty well.Aug 01 21:35
DaemonFC[m]Oh here's some rich people. We'll charge $4 for a gallon of milk and call the store Marianos. Oh, here's some poor blacks. $1.79 for milk.Aug 01 21:36
DaemonFC[m]There's so much wiggle room for price insensitive shoppers that you may be able to charge them twice as much for basic grocery items without them knowing or caring. Aug 01 21:36
DaemonFC[m]In the in-laws case. "You have plenty of credit cards. You deserve to shop here.".Aug 01 21:37
DaemonFC[m]"You're special and our high prices keep out the riffraff. Aug 01 21:37
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: It's kind of funny to watch people like that who secluded themselves get laid off en masse and have the lawsuit threats arrive via courier and certified mail.Aug 01 21:38
DaemonFC[m]You have to wonder how long before the Sheriff of Lake County shows up and goes "Little pigs. Little pigs. Let me in!".Aug 01 21:38
psydreadI rarely bought anything at Centra or SuperValu in Ireland with there being plenty of Aldi and Lidl storesAug 01 21:39
psydreadyou pay 2-3 times the price for the same or similar goodsAug 01 21:39
MinceRwell, fewer people being around is a plusAug 01 21:40
DaemonFC[m]The funny part is that the BAPCPA law from 2005 that mom and dad's previous president pushed through stops high earners from filing until they can show that their trailing 6 month average income is below the threshold for Chapter 7. So in the mean time, the IRS and Friends are pigging out on your paycheck and you can't stop them.Aug 01 21:40
DaemonFC[m]BAPCPA didn't really cause my case any harm. I applied for and got a waiver from the bankruptcy counseling fees, and just let the thing sit there while I went to take a dump.Aug 01 21:41
DaemonFC[m]Then there was the test. "Yeah, yeah, blah blah, don't go to Payday Loan stores. Yup yup.".Aug 01 21:42
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DaemonFC[m]But it will cause a big damned problem for people who just lost their jobs and were barely paying their bills right up until the end.Aug 01 21:42
DaemonFC[m]They're also the people who won't get either stimulus check this year because of their income from last year, when we didn't have a pandemic going around killing hundreds of thousands of Americans.Aug 01 21:45
schestowitzalmost 1000 dead so far todayAug 01 21:45
schestowitzI can see it nowAug 01 21:45
DaemonFC[m]It doesn't take an imagination to see this thing killing more people here than the 1918 flu.Aug 01 21:45
schestowitzbut those are partly the Friday listsAug 01 21:45
DaemonFC[m]I think you mean 1,000 less Trump voters who passed away and left an estate of "all the toilet paper in the walk-in closet" due to 40 years of Republican policies.Aug 01 21:47
schestowitzLooks like Israel got an all-time deaths record at 14Aug 01 21:47
schestowitzSoon passing Belgium in casesAug 01 21:47
schestowitzGermany has low death tollAug 01 21:47
schestowitzmaybe they managed to keep the elderly shieldedAug 01 21:47
schestowitzor maybe counting it differentlyAug 01 21:47
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: compared to the total number of voters 250,000 deceased american is smallAug 01 21:48
schestowitzhe already lost by 3 million the last timeAug 01 21:48
DaemonFC[m]The Germans have a Chancellor who was up front with the public and admitted what the virus would do if people didn't take it seriously. We got Trump, DeSantis, Kemp, and Ben Carson going "masks are for pussies!" and now look what that did.Aug 01 21:48
DaemonFC[m]Even if Trump got on TV right now and told people the truth and they actually went along with it, we'd have over 250,000 dead people by November anyway. So this disaster is up there with famines caused by Communist uprisings and most of the blood is on Trump's hands.Aug 01 21:50
DaemonFC[m]He's not going to do that, so we'll have many, many more dead before this had run its course. That's the price for entertaining a dishonest con man as he ruins your country.Aug 01 21:51
schestowitzCarson also?Aug 01 21:51
schestowitzhe's a surgeonAug 01 21:51
schestowitzWhat did he say about the thing?Aug 01 21:51
schestowitz943 now..Aug 01 21:51
schestowitzWow, Texas clocking about 300 a day, still...Aug 01 21:52
schestowitzVery red stateAug 01 21:52
DaemonFC[m]Well, if he attends Trump's rallies and does what his other token black did, he'll be as dead as Judas Iscariot, just like Herman Cain.Aug 01 21:52
schestowitzthe red might soon not be the partyAug 01 21:52
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DaemonFC[m]Republicans are so badly misinformed that a lot of them, including my uncle in Georgia, who mocked the Coronavirus....actually said they liked the 9-9-9 tax plan. Even though it would have raised the lowest effective federal bracket to 18% of your income. Most middle income earners can make their effective rate between 4-10% right now, so this would have been a major tax hike for people making under $150,000. MajorAug 01 21:54
DaemonFC[m]tax break for Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos. Aug 01 21:54
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DaemonFC[m]Bezos just bought a house for 0.13% of his total wealth. It was not a cheap house. This is equivalent to someone making $70,000 paying $68 for a house. Nobody seems to think there's anything wrong with this picture. That one person should have that much money. We've got maybe 10 people with as much accumulated wealth as the bottom 30 million combined, and they've also been brainwashed into thinking those 10 peopleAug 01 21:57
DaemonFC[m]need to pay less taxes than they do already.Aug 01 21:57
DaemonFC[m]Rich people aren't just unproductively hoarding wealth while half of all Americans have lost most of their income due to the pandemic. The billionaires have accumulated $700 billion dollars MORE than they had in March while this is all playing out.Aug 01 21:58
DaemonFC[m]They've managed to arrange the biggest upwards wealth transfer ever while people are getting fired in bulk and taking pay cuts and have the banks breathing down their neck getting ready to lose their homes. It's mostly thanks to Trump and his people at the Fed arranging more taxation by inflation so that they can put all the new money into the stock market, which obviously most Americans have none. They can barelyAug 01 22:00
DaemonFC[m]afford groceries and to stay in their house another month.Aug 01 22:00
DaemonFC[m] 01 22:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | On the First Day of School, an Indiana Student Tests Positive for Coronavirus - The New York TimesAug 01 22:04
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: A middle school that opened in Indiana had to shut down on the first day of classes and tell every student who attended to go into quarantine. The superintendent said, "We were shocked that it happened on the first day.", although he admitted that they knew it would happen "eventually".Aug 01 22:05
DaemonFC[m]This is the level of stupid in my home state. This is what happens when the Republicans take over and drive everyone with a college degree into other states.Aug 01 22:05
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DaemonFC[m]Trump's finished infesting the CDC with Trump Campaign people, so they're producing bogus studies of the "negative health effects of not returning to in-person education". Yes, the famous negative health effects of not having your lungs and heart damaged for the rest of your life. Soon they'll be back to telling us how many doctors recommend Camel cigarettes.Aug 01 22:07
schestowitzyes, seems soAug 01 22:07
schestowitz[22:04] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- | On the First Day of School, an Indiana Student Tests Positive for Coronavirus - The New York TimesAug 01 22:07
schestowitzsame thing in other countries has happenedAug 01 22:08
schestowitzand schools shut againAug 01 22:08
DaemonFC[m]Throwing kids at the meat grinder. Shows you that they don't care what happens, even when it's kids. "pro life" my ass.Aug 01 22:08
schestowitz975 nowAug 01 22:08
schestowitzWhen I hear prolife I think proactiveAug 01 22:09
schestowitzand other "pro" drinksAug 01 22:09
schestowitzproactive usually means germsAug 01 22:09
schestowitzseems like the pro-life party is actually pro-coronaAug 01 22:09
schestowitzspreading coronavirusAug 01 22:09
schestowitz"it'll make your gut stronger, come on"Aug 01 22:09
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I think what's really going on is that the Republicans are trying to get as many people sick as possible so that their rich campaign donors can re-emerge from their end of the world panic bunkers sooner.Aug 01 22:10
schestowitzor yachtsAug 01 22:11
MinceRperhaps "life" ends at birthAug 01 22:11
schestowitzlike those who brag about their floating covid-free 'island'Aug 01 22:11
schestowitzMinceR: second lifeAug 01 22:11
schestowitzthe third life is mostly about rotting awayAug 01 22:11
DaemonFC[m]The way you would do that is to re-open everything while the rich just live underground for the next 100 days in New Zealand. Or on their private islands. Doesn't matter much what happens in the rest of Florida if you have a private island with private security officers and sequester "the help" with you and hoard remdesivir and medical equipment and tests for yourselves.Aug 01 22:12
schestowitzfourth is when the leases expire and they throw bones in mass gravesAug 01 22:12
DaemonFC[m]Those are Trump's biggest fans. They're where all of his campaign money is coming from.Aug 01 22:12
schestowitzthat leads to some nutty theories thoughAug 01 22:12
schestowitzabout the ambitions to massively depopulate the planetAug 01 22:13
schestowitzthen re-emerge with an oligarchy-led 'subworld'Aug 01 22:13
schestowitzlike I said, a nutty and unsupported assertionAug 01 22:13
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DaemonFC[m]That's exactly what's playing out right in front of us, though. We've reached the "Thanks for your vote, but we don't need you anymore." phase, and that includes people like my mom even if they don't realize it.Aug 01 22:14
DaemonFC[m]The best it really gets in your state if you have Republican government is that they try to play both sides down the middle so they can appeal to the nuts while not appearing to be a total nut. Take Texas, for example. The governor made masks the law, but carved out so many exemptions. Like, you don't need a mask if you're going to church. Uh, right. We know nobody gets the virus at church.Aug 01 22:16
DaemonFC[m]Even in Illinois, they got exemptions for churches because they were suing the state. Aug 01 22:17
schestowitzthey have MEGACHURCHES THEREAug 01 22:17
DaemonFC[m]All this does is put holes in your "shield" that don't need to be there to appeal to these stupid assholes who think they're going somewhere better anyway.Aug 01 22:17
schestowitzthey're like sport event stadiumsAug 01 22:17
schestowitzeven entering those means close contact with so many peopleAug 01 22:18
schestowitzcrowded gates and stairwaysAug 01 22:18
DaemonFC[m]The whole point of the state sponsoring religion is to remove support for having better government than the one you've got. It's been that way in many places for a very long time.Aug 01 22:19
DaemonFC[m]The reason the US government has thugs in unmarked vans right now is because so many people stopped believing in this nonsense and demanding better living situations, that Trump had to deploy the stuff of Communist dictators and Rodrigo Duterte.Aug 01 22:19
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I thought it was terribly amusing that it's mandatory for high school students in Georgia to read Orwell. Specifically, 1984 and Animal Farm, because that's what the US has finally finished turning into. The big tech companies with the NSA/FBI/CIA are 1984, and religion is Sugar Candy Mountain from Animal Farm and Trump is Napoleon the Pig.Aug 01 22:21
DaemonFC[m]By the time the book is finished, the pigs have developed all of the vices of their former human overlords and are even walking on their hind legs. It was meant to be a critique of Communism, but it works on Authoritarianism in general. Trump got where he is because he told people who were foolish enough to believe him that the system was very broken and he was an outsider who would shake things up. Four years later,Aug 01 22:23
DaemonFC[m]the United States is worse than it's ever been before.Aug 01 22:23
DaemonFC[m]The reason why it's just terrible that people put Trump where he is, is that it was obvious just by glancing that he's a womanizing pedophile with a bankruptcy every few years.Aug 01 22:27
DaemonFC[m]That should have been enough to be the end, but it wasn't.Aug 01 22:27
DaemonFC[m]People in Greenfield, Indiana are talking to the news under condition of anonymity about how concerned they are that their neighbors are a bunch of far-right Indiana dipshits who are still refusing to take even basic precautions. "For fear of retaliation by members of the community."Aug 01 22:30
schestowitz Aug 01 22:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Watchdog Groups Demand Probe Into 'Voter Suppression Tactics' by Postal Service Chief—and Major Trump Donor—Louis DeJoy | Common Dreams NewsAug 01 22:34
schestowitzHuntington near?Aug 01 22:35
schestowitzyour mom is an enablerAug 01 22:35
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, but the virus is raining hellfire down on the only age group that actually liked Trump to begin with.Aug 01 22:41
DaemonFC[m]More and more of them die every day from it.Aug 01 22:42
DaemonFC[m]This would have been a bigger disaster had it primarily killed younger people because Trump would have skated to a second term and the old people always show up to vote, so nothing would have ever got shut down because it wouldn't affect them much. That's how those people think. It's terrible.Aug 01 22:43
DaemonFC[m]These anti-vaccine kooks figured they could freeload and get away with their ignorance because they lived in a first world country. They've turned the United States into a third world country in 4 years, but mostly since March.Aug 01 22:44
schestowitzkarma?Aug 01 22:45
schestowitzkoromavirusAug 01 22:45
MinceRkormaviruAug 01 22:46
MinceRsAug 01 22:46
schestowitzdoes that come with chicken?Aug 01 22:46
schestowitz Aug 01 22:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | 'Indefensible and Disgusting': Senate Departs for 3-Day Weekend as Unemployment Benefits Expire for 30 Million | Common Dreams NewsAug 01 22:47
MinceR:>Aug 01 22:51
schestowitzAugust will be hotAug 01 22:52
DaemonFC[m] 01 22:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | How to convince teenagers to take COVID-19 seriouslyAug 01 22:52
schestowitzmaybe the bullets will also get hotterAug 01 22:52
schestowitzand less rubberyAug 01 22:52
schestowitzfrom the 'police'Aug 01 22:53
schestowitzso-called 'police'Aug 01 22:53
schestowitzlooks like army nwoAug 01 22:53
schestowitznowAug 01 22:53
DaemonFC[m]Then there's this bullshit. The kids aren't the ones demanding to go get sick at school. Those would be the Republicans and their parents.Aug 01 22:53
schestowitznwo is a funny typoAug 01 22:53
schestowitzbetter than nwaAug 01 22:53
schestowitzdeaths will exceed 1000 again todayAug 01 22:54
schestowitzweekendAug 01 22:54
schestowitz“Losing badly to the Coronavirus—now topping 150,000 deaths in America— Herr Drumpf, the “winner” who “hates to lose,” unleashes unmarked Federal stormtroopers to storm the streets of Portland” 01 22:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Naked Athena vs. Drumpf - CounterPunch.orgAug 01 22:54
schestowitzFriday articleAug 01 22:54
schestowitzI am doing an article on ussr at the momentAug 01 22:56
schestowitzibmAug 01 22:56
DaemonFC[m]It's nice to see that some pampered idiot who lives in Scotland according to their bio is writing Trump-friendly articles to influence Americans and make it seem like sending the kids back to school is some George Soros conspiracy. My mom doesn't even know or care who George Soros is. Fox News says "George Soros bad, ungh!" and she doesn't bother to even type him into Google. He's a holocaust survivor, so he fallsAug 01 22:56
DaemonFC[m]neatly withing the "Jews are running everything!" neo-nazi horseshit that her president, Trump, is part of.Aug 01 22:56
schestowitzSoros is more left-leaningAug 01 22:57
schestowitzso the right hates himAug 01 22:57
schestowitzirrespective of religionAug 01 22:57
schestowitzhe's hostile towards soviet occupationAug 01 22:57
DaemonFC[m]That's what the Republicans are. They're Neo-Nazis who insist that they're not. The "Not See Party". They hope you will "Not See" that they're basically Nazis.Aug 01 22:57
schestowitzbecause he's from hungaryAug 01 22:57
schestowitzwhich makes you wonder if his haters are also putin boot lickers like Trump isAug 01 22:57
DaemonFC[m]Moreover, many of them are crybullies. You point out how they have the same policies that the Nazis did in the early days, and they scream and start having a meltdown insisting that even though they share all of the Nazi platform from 1930, they don't like being called that.Aug 01 22:59
MinceRin hungary, soros-haters are indeed putler's bootlickersAug 01 22:59
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DaemonFC[m]What made the Germans so dangerous when they fell into Nazism was that they're generally pretty smart people who know how to get things done, and they weren't stupid enough to get fat and lazy and useless and send all their jobs to a country that's a hostile foreign creditor which they only now complain about. Aug 01 23:01
DaemonFC[m]The Republicans are Nazis on Rascal Scooters.Aug 01 23:01
DaemonFC[m]What makes this different is that Hitler actually solved 30% unemployment while my mom's fascist human toilet of a president caused it.Aug 01 23:02
schestowitzwant to read my draft?Aug 01 23:03
DaemonFC[m]30% unemployment gets people pissed off and demanding change. You generally don't want it while you're the incumbent party.Aug 01 23:03
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Yeah.Aug 01 23:03
schestowitzcheersAug 01 23:03
schestowitzok, quick: before people spot the typos :-)Aug 01 23:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | IBM and the Bomb – Part IV: IBM’s Watson Came Under Fire for Representing the U.S. in U.S.S.R./Russia With No Qualifications or Any Relevant Experience | TechrightsAug 01 23:04
DaemonFC[m]That would be a violation of the Logan Act, btw.Aug 01 23:04
DaemonFC[m]“revolving door” between business and politics or money and powerAug 01 23:05
DaemonFC[m]should be "between business and politics, money, and power".Aug 01 23:06
schestowitzdoorsAug 01 23:06
schestowitzbut the rest is as intendedAug 01 23:06
schestowitznotice respsctivelyAug 01 23:06
schestowitzBit I added your commaAug 01 23:07
schestowitzThere was certainly resistance to "Mr. rich man" Watson Jr. becoming a US diplomat owing to privilege (born into the 'right' family) rather than experience and/or political track record, symbolising a sort of "revolving doors" phenomenon -- namely overlap between business and politics, or money and power, respectivelyAug 01 23:08
MinceRmaybe it could be "between business and politics -- money and power"Aug 01 23:08
kingoffrancewell where his thomas sr?    they thought world peace through world tradeAug 01 23:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Carnegie Endowment for International Peace Records 7Q Frames PageAug 01 23:09
kingoffrancew/where his/where was/Aug 01 23:09
kingoffrancebefore claims of russian interference, right when trump took office, they were saying how great putin is btwAug 01 23:10
DaemonFC[m]Gates being "her failing son". Yeah, the Mac was going to be a footnote if things had kept going the way they were, and as a company making Mac software and nothing else, Microsoft would have gone under with them.Aug 01 23:11
kingoffrancei guess it doesnt really bother me, but they arent "gov"Aug 01 23:11
kingoffrancebut they got cspan coverage and suchAug 01 23:11
DaemonFC[m]If things had worked out differently, I'm pretty sure that Commodore would have conquered the home computer market. Aug 01 23:11
MinceRif things had worked out differently, things would have worked out differently :>Aug 01 23:12
DaemonFC[m]UNIX has always been "Eww, UNIX." The consumer stuff based on it tries to shovel the implementation details somewhere the user won't notice them.Aug 01 23:12
DaemonFC[m]The Amiga was the most advanced home computer of the 1980s, but the price was just way more than anyone wanted to pay.Aug 01 23:13
psydreadhow much was it?Aug 01 23:13
psydreadand what about Acorn Archimedes?Aug 01 23:13
DaemonFC[m]We're talking the competition was a Mac with grayscale display and the Amiga had features you didn't really start seeing on the PC again until the late 90s.Aug 01 23:13
kingoffrancei think you do perhaps need some "business" people to ask their input on policies, but in practice i thikn it usually means "ask the x richest ppl what they think is a good idea"Aug 01 23:14
kingoffrancei.e. you end up with big companies setting the policy for everyoneAug 01 23:14
MinceR> UNIX has always been "Eww, UNIX."Aug 01 23:15
MinceRmaybe to you :>Aug 01 23:15
kingoffranceIIRC i should note before the tech companies were "censoring conservatives" didnt trump invite them to the white house?Aug 01 23:16
schestowitz "Eww, NIX"?Aug 01 23:16
DaemonFC[m]The Amiga in 1985 cost $1,600 with a monitor, which was about $4,000 in today's money.Aug 01 23:16
schestowitzGah-nooooooo!!Aug 01 23:16
kingoffrancethey werent a problem then, it was "best economy ever"Aug 01 23:16
DaemonFC[m]Mind you, most home users were used to paying about $500-600 and connecting something to their TV.Aug 01 23:16
DaemonFC[m]So it was asking them to pay more than 3x what they were used to. Although it was a better system, it went well past the needs of most users. Also, a lot of people didn't see home computing as anything more than a passing fad.Aug 01 23:17
DaemonFC[m]So try getting anyone to dump $4,000 (adjusted) into something that "Just probably won't catch on.".Aug 01 23:17
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kingoffrancei even remember reading about how trump and bernie arent so different ... then russia allegations started, and those comparisons quickly died, and then all of a sudden the dems are all socialists, etc.Aug 01 23:20
MinceRyeah, whether something is a passing fad matters if all you care about is impressing other people :>Aug 01 23:21
DaemonFC[m]Bernie Sanders' cult following rapidly disappeared this year.Aug 01 23:21
schestowitzas happened in 2016Aug 01 23:21
schestowitzwhen he joined what we foguhtAug 01 23:21
schestowitzHRC and now BidenAug 01 23:22
kingoffrancewell the article writer was trying to say trump could do some of bernies ideas, because hes a master negotiater you see, a very practical man, etc.Aug 01 23:22
schestowitzliaising with those who rigged against "us"Aug 01 23:22
kingoffrancethere was a crazy idea you could work togetherAug 01 23:22
DaemonFC[m]Well, by the time he started stumping for Clinton, the damage to Clinton had been done.Aug 01 23:22
DaemonFC[m]He threw so much mud at her that he successfully drove off enough Democratic voters that Trump managed to eek out a win.Aug 01 23:22
schestowitzshe helped himAug 01 23:23
schestowitzhad helped himAug 01 23:23
schestowitzin the nominationsAug 01 23:23
DaemonFC[m]I didn't particularly like Hillary, but I knew that we'd have a disaster eventually and that something like what we're going through now would happen, and that Trump just wouldn't be able or interesting in handling it.Aug 01 23:23
schestowitz990 deaths nowAug 01 23:23
DaemonFC[m]He's not smart enough and his mind goes straight to how he can exploit it for more money and more power.Aug 01 23:23
DaemonFC[m]About 9,000 dead in the last week from the Coronavirus. Up 30%. Trump's off going nothing to see here, send the kids to school why not. Aug 01 23:26
DaemonFC[m]Mom thinks the biggest problem in the country is that they're out of toilet paper in Ohio, not that 30 million people are now getting rocket docketed through the eviction courts and that wiping their asses will be the least of their concerns.Aug 01 23:27
DaemonFC[m]I mean, panic buying toilet paper is ridiculous. The worst thing that happens is it runs out and you just get in the shower.Aug 01 23:28
DaemonFC[m]They act like there's a panic sale on all of the remaining oxygen or something.Aug 01 23:29
DaemonFC[m]Time for the Trump Boomers to go lasso 9 shopping carts full of bottled water and TP to their Rascal Scooters again. Yeehaw! <Rawhide starts playing in the background>Aug 01 23:30
XRevan86 kaputAug 01 23:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Omar RothAug 01 23:33
schestowitz 01 23:33
DaemonFC[m]30 million evictions and no toilet paper. Trump said he'd make our economy great. This is great. Why don't you libcucks just admit this is great?Aug 01 23:33
XRevan86* invidio.usAug 01 23:33
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: MinceR: ^Aug 01 23:33
schestowitz"Tens of thousands of nuclear weapons were in 'safe hands' because rich kid Tom was representing the United States in Russia (USSR at the time), having proven his skills by being born to the man who had met Hitler and made lots of money in the Third Reich"Aug 01 23:35
schestowitz[Meme] Privilege: When They're Born Into Money That Means They Know Everything About AnythingAug 01 23:36
schestowitzGates is a virus expertAug 01 23:36
schestowitzhe even made oneAug 01 23:37
schestowitzto crash networksAug 01 23:37
schestowitzGates is also a techieAug 01 23:37
schestowitzbut has no degree in that areaAug 01 23:37
schestowitzhe's an economistAug 01 23:37
schestowitzcoz daddy was richAug 01 23:37
DaemonFC[m] 01 23:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Trump's threatened TikTok ban could motivate young users to vote, some sayAug 01 23:37
schestowitzhe's the world's smartest man... because MONEYAug 01 23:37
DaemonFC[m]So let me see if I follow this. He's completely ruined the economy and their future, but banning TikTok is what will get them to vote?Aug 01 23:37
schestowitzmakes no senseAug 01 23:38
schestowitznbcAug 01 23:38
schestowitzshitpostingAug 01 23:38
schestowitzthey spin this as an election thingAug 01 23:38
schestowitz"Watson Jr., Gates Jr. and 'the Donald'... experts in turning tons of money... into more money? (Well, 'the Donald' filed six bankruptcies, working on his seventh now)"Aug 01 23:39
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: The news sites that have the highest number of blocked domains in NoScript are usually the ones least worth reading. Aug 01 23:39
DaemonFC[m]Fox News causes my ad blocker and NoScript to go apeshit.Aug 01 23:39
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: seeing any typos? 01 23:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | [Meme] Privilege: When They’re Born Into Money That Means They Know Everything About Anything | TechrightsAug 01 23:41
schestowitzit's a meme reallyAug 01 23:41
schestowitzI left out all the gates nitpickingAug 01 23:41
schestowitzas this is about "Tom"Aug 01 23:41
DaemonFC[m] 01 23:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Karen Bass, on Biden VP shortlist, scrambles to explain remarks on Castro, Scientology | Fox NewsAug 01 23:41
DaemonFC[m]Okay, I have to admit that ties to Scientology are disturbing.Aug 01 23:42
schestowitzTrvolta-Cruise 2020Aug 01 23:42
schestowitzTravoltaAug 01 23:42
kingoffrancelolAug 01 23:42
MinceRlolAug 01 23:42
MinceRMiscarriage 2020Aug 01 23:43
MinceRoops, i mean Miscavige 2020Aug 01 23:43
schestowitzCleavage comes to mindAug 01 23:44
schestowitzClinton-Cleavage 2020. The stain on the dress.Aug 01 23:45
DaemonFC[m]Check out all of this fucking garbage.Aug 01 23:47
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DaemonFC[m]You search for these domains and it's like buzzword bullshit bingo from some analytics firm.Aug 01 23:47
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DaemonFC[m]Then there's that stupid JWPlayer which pops up and wastes your bandwidth so that the page can start making noise with random people talking about shit.Aug 01 23:48
DaemonFC[m]I mean, the web is much more pleasant with noscript.Aug 01 23:48
schestowitzwhy do you get news from there?Aug 01 23:50
schestowitzThese are very malicious sitesAug 01 23:50
DaemonFC[m]Chumbuckets, paywalls, analytics crap, "native advertising", oh my!Aug 01 23:50
DaemonFC[m]Yes, those domains load scripts that are basically malware.Aug 01 23:50
schestowitz1,041 dead. Go Trump!Aug 01 23:50
schestowitzMorgaGAAug 01 23:50
schestowitzI added and took image from 01 23:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Biden says Trump is responsible for historic economic slumpAug 01 23:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | U.S. Business Hall of Fame - RecipientsAug 01 23:51
schestowitzJA no longer around?Aug 01 23:52
schestowitzI participated in it as a kidAug 01 23:52
schestowitzand we wonAug 01 23:52
schestowitz"Tom Watson, Jr. took over IBM from his father Tom, Sr. in 1952. His first significant step was to scrap his father’s rather autocratic management style, which he believed was retarding decision-making. He aptly understood that IBM’s success would depend not only on its salesmen but even more on a rapidly growing phalanx of scientist and electronic engineers. By 1956, IBM had opened a clear lead in a market that proved to be far Aug 01 23:52
schestowitzlarger than anybody had imagined. Watson pushed IBM to move forward, faster by encouraging research teams within the company to compete for innovation. His strategy worked. Shares of IBM stock were worth $36 billion more when he stepped down that when he took over."Aug 01 23:52
schestowitz"took over IBM from his father"Aug 01 23:52
schestowitzhow common a themeAug 01 23:52
schestowitzwork hardAug 01 23:52
schestowitzyou will succeedAug 01 23:52
schestowitzbut...Aug 01 23:52
schestowitzif you're not born into these families... tough luckAug 01 23:53
schestowitzbezos and his partner went to a very expensive collegeAug 01 23:53
schestowitzso they cannot possibly be of modest backgroundAug 01 23:53
schestowitzprestigious colleges like these cost a fortuneAug 01 23:53
schestowitzand leave you with debt even if you can get it, bar scholarshipAug 01 23:54
schestowitz 01 23:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | MacKenzie Scott - WikipediaAug 01 23:54
schestowitzLOlAug 01 23:54
schestowitz"philanthropist"Aug 01 23:54
schestowitzThey all areAug 01 23:54
schestowitzPhilanthropist these days just means "rich person"; because they all call themselves that. If you're not an oligarch, you cannot afford becoming "philanthropist". That label is now 100% tainted.Aug 01 23:55
schestowitz"MacKenzie Scott Tuttle was born on April 7, 1970, in San Francisco, California. Her father was a financial planner.[8] 'Aug 01 23:56
schestowitzRead as, born into money familyAug 01 23:56
schestowitz"After graduating, she worked for D. E. Shaw, a quantitative hedge fund in New York, as an administrative assistant from 1992 to 1994. "Aug 01 23:56
schestowitzWoohoo, hedge fundAug 01 23:56
schestowitzvulturesAug 01 23:56
schestowitz"On July 13, 2020, Mackenzie Scott became the richest woman in the world with a net worth of US$64.5 Billion, ahead of Françoise Bettencourt Meyers, who had a net worth of US$64.4 Billion."Aug 01 23:57
schestowitz"In May 2019, she signed the Giving Pledge"Aug 01 23:57
schestowitzSo now she's in bed with famous criminal GatesAug 01 23:57
schestowitzWith the capitalised "Pledge"Aug 01 23:57
schestowitzThe Giving ScamAug 01 23:57
schestowitzHow to not pay tax by pretending to be generousAug 01 23:58
schestowitz"They have four children: three sons and one daughter adopted from China"Aug 01 23:58
schestowitzTheir biological kids are as ugly as the dadAug 01 23:59
schestowitzbased on this photograph anyway...Aug 01 23:59
schestowitzWait till they enter 'turtle mode'Aug 01 23:59

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