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DaemonFC[m]Mom said someone from Indiana posted on Facebook that masks deprive you of oxygen, and even my mom wasn't going for that, it was so bad. People who would say that or that masks are social control had the umbilical cord strangling them of oxygen or a parent that drank while pregnant, most likely.Sep 01 00:00
schestowitzhaSep 01 00:01
schestowitzwell, darwin awards on displaySep 01 00:01
schestowitzyou know who will end up in ERSep 01 00:01
DaemonFC[m]People from Indiana are weird. Most of them act like the world falls off at the state lines and there's dragons out there. So there's a few cities that are somewhat livable and that's about it. In fact, it scores among the lowest states for the mental health situation going on in there.Sep 01 00:02
DaemonFC[m]The people who aren't leaving Indiana are old and don't need a job anyway. Good thing too, because the state has been in recession since 2014.Sep 01 00:03
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DaemonFC[m]That's why Trump will do just fine there even as he loses the election in a blowout. Because Indiana is about 14 points out of whack with the rest of the country. Severe deficits in education, overall intelligence, social intelligence, and which decade their world view is from.Sep 01 00:05
schestowitz"People with education mock us!"Sep 01 00:06
schestowitz"Let's vote for the crook who paid a dude to seat his SATs... very stable genius"Sep 01 00:06
DaemonFC[m]The people there who reproduce are mostly from some criminal clan, like something out of a Kentucky joke. I mentioned my mom's ex-husband Brian, who drove a truck and had 4 kids, 18 grandkids, and 4 great grandkids at 59 when he died. They're all criminals from birth and every single one is a Republican if they vote for anyone. (Or can vote with a string of felonies.)Sep 01 00:07
DaemonFC[m]Nobody in their right mind would vote for 4 more years of this, but Indiana will be flabbergasted by the election results because they've completely lost touch and can't admit that it's not the 1960s anymore.Sep 01 00:08
DaemonFC[m]<schestowitz ""People with education mock us!""> My dad was so stunned that Biden gave a good speech that he now thinks someone has killed Joe Biden and replaced him with an impostor. Sep 01 00:10
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DaemonFC[m]You know, at this point, I hope people will listen to a message of hope. Not a bunch of bigotry and fear about how if we only give up the rest of our freedoms, Trump can save us with martial law. Sep 01 00:11
schestowitzA friend of mine says,Sep 01 00:11
schestowitzthe deterioration started around the 70s or 80sSep 01 00:11
schestowitznamely raeganSep 01 00:12
schestowitzif not nixonSep 01 00:12
DaemonFC[m]I don't like the structure of the National Guard and once Trump is gone, Congress should make it harder for the president to federalize them to use against a state. Sep 01 00:12
schestowitzthe attack on public educationSep 01 00:12
schestowitzseveral consecutive generations getting dumped by designSep 01 00:12
schestowitzUS becoming a massive debt countrySep 01 00:12
schestowitzno assets, just warsSep 01 00:12
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, and like a mindless robot, my dad couldn't answer what we were doing in Syria and refuses to admit that Trump is backing ISIS.Sep 01 00:13
DaemonFC[m]Obama was too.Sep 01 00:13
DaemonFC[m]In the very worst ways, Trump is "normal", in that he has no intention of ever getting us out of places like that. Sep 01 00:13
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I smell bullshit with Trump saying he won't sign Nancy Pelosi's next bill.Sep 01 00:15
DaemonFC[m]She'll wait him out and keep saying "The House passed one weeks ago and the Republicans aren't touching it.".Sep 01 00:15
DaemonFC[m]Then he'll realize the economy is completely falling apart and there's no way to move money around by executive order anymore, and he'll sign it.Sep 01 00:15
CrystalMathDaemonFC[m]: didn't trump pull a lot of soldiers out?Sep 01 00:16
CrystalMathi mean that's my whole defense case for TrumpSep 01 00:17
DaemonFC[m]Not really, no.Sep 01 00:17
oiaohmschestowitz: Its also recent years more and more patent trolls have been hitting Microsoft worked out that they could perform bankruptcy to remove the contract restriction on aquired patents. Sep 01 00:17
DaemonFC[m]Bush and Obama agreed to pull outs that took place and some of them happened after they were gone.Sep 01 00:17
oiaohmschestowitz: Sometimes a plan backfires.Sep 01 00:18
schestowitz[00:17] <CrystalMath> i mean that's my whole defense case for TrumpSep 01 00:18
schestowitzThey were relocatedSep 01 00:18
schestowitzredistributedSep 01 00:19
schestowitze.g. for war with iranSep 01 00:19
schestowitzor some other confrontationSep 01 00:19
schestowitzwhile Trump and GOP sent Pentagon budget SOARINGSep 01 00:19
CrystalMathbut they were still pulled out, weren't they?Sep 01 00:19
schestowitzand increased Pentagon's nuclear programs, as did ObamaSep 01 00:19
schestowitzCrystalMath: relocatedSep 01 00:19
schestowitzalso expanded in AdfricaSep 01 00:19
schestowitz*AfricaSep 01 00:19
CrystalMathi think Trump may be the most peaceful president everSep 01 00:19
CrystalMathwhere in africa?Sep 01 00:20
schestowitzmany Trump supporters were sold this false idea that Trump, who boosts military spendings and presence, does the oppositeSep 01 00:20
schestowitzhe also bombs far more than prior presidentSep 01 00:20
schestowitz*presidentsSep 01 00:20
schestowitzall of themSep 01 00:20
CrystalMathlike where?Sep 01 00:20
schestowitzin Africa? Look it up.Sep 01 00:20
schestowitzIt happened around 2018-19Sep 01 00:21
CrystalMathcan you be a little more specific?Sep 01 00:21
schestowitz[00:19] <CrystalMath> i think Trump may be the most peaceful president everSep 01 00:21
schestowitzLOLSep 01 00:21
schestowitzdomestically and abroadSep 01 00:21
schestowitzAsk an Iranian or Venezuelan or Cuban if this is trueSep 01 00:21
CrystalMathokay so lookSep 01 00:21
schestowitzhe also bombed a lot more than ObamaSep 01 00:21
schestowitzpeaceful tight there!Sep 01 00:21
CrystalMath2016, america dropped 26,171 bombsSep 01 00:21
schestowitzLOL Trump peacefulSep 01 00:21
schestowitz"law and order"Sep 01 00:22
schestowitzthew most criminal president everSep 01 00:22
CrystalMathin 2018, 8,750Sep 01 00:22
CrystalMaththat looks like a dramatic drop to meSep 01 00:22
schestowitzwhose crimes are too long to even be listedSep 01 00:22
schestowitzand who was impeachedSep 01 00:22
CrystalMathimpeached by a far from impartial congressSep 01 00:22
CrystalMathi watched that crap happen, it was nonsenseSep 01 00:22
schestowitz 01 00:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Trump’s Military Drops a Bomb Every 12 Minutes, and No One Is Talking About It - TruthdigSep 01 00:22
schestowitzCrystalMath: : I'm signing offSep 01 00:23
schestowitzbecause this discussion is total nonsense YBHSep 01 00:23
schestowitzTBHSep 01 00:23
CrystalMathhold on, let's see how much per yearSep 01 00:23
CrystalMathhmmSep 01 00:24
CrystalMathokay i misread something from duckduckgo's previewSep 01 00:24
CrystalMathoopsSep 01 00:24
CrystalMathbut that article is a little misleadingSep 01 00:25
CrystalMath2016 is not the year Trump took officeSep 01 00:25
CrystalMathit was January 20th 2017Sep 01 00:25
CrystalMathi remember the daySep 01 00:25
schestowitzexcusesSep 01 00:26
CrystalMath2016 is all on obama's conscienceSep 01 00:26
schestowitzI criticise Linux a lotSep 01 00:26
schestowitzmany aspectsSep 01 00:26
schestowitzanything else is cult-likeSep 01 00:26
schestowitzyou adopted cult-like liesSep 01 00:26
CrystalMathsure, Trump sucks in many waysSep 01 00:26
schestowitzlike qanon and "Trust the plan"Sep 01 00:27
schestowitzresearch the factsSep 01 00:27
CrystalMathsince you mentioned linuxSep 01 00:27
schestowitznot what some cultists tell youSep 01 00:27
schestowitzlike microsoft talking about azure and stuffSep 01 00:27
schestowitz(lots of lies)Sep 01 00:27
CrystalMathTrump is behind that outrageous Oracle v. Google rulingSep 01 00:27
schestowitz(losses AND layoffs)Sep 01 00:27
CrystalMathTrump is far from greatSep 01 00:27
CrystalMathbut i think that since he came to power america has been leaving the rest of the world alone moreSep 01 00:27
CrystalMathwell, there was that outageous strike on SoleimaniSep 01 00:28
CrystalMaththat made me completely give up on Trump temporarilySep 01 00:29
CrystalMathbut what's the alternative? bowing before SJWs?Sep 01 00:29
CrystalMaththe people ruining this planet with their technocratic globalismSep 01 00:29
DaemonFC[m]"Lightfoot also tried to thread the political needle on police funding. Chicago needs to greatly reduce police overtime spending, and find a way to lower the massive annual outlay the city makes to settle lawsuits against officers for misconduct, she said in her speech."Sep 01 00:34
DaemonFC[m]Make them go to court. Stop settling and lawyers will stop suing the city as much.Sep 01 00:34
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Those bankruptcy spammers are ignoring my postal prohibitory order.Sep 01 00:41
DaemonFC[m]Might send them to the USPIS. I'm sure they could use a $5,500 fine doled out to each one of themhem.Sep 01 00:41
DaemonFC[m]*themSep 01 00:41
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Just do what Cartman said when he was teaching black and brown people to get ahead.Sep 01 00:44
DaemonFC[m]Just do what white people do and when you get caught cheating say, "I misinterpreted the rules!".Sep 01 00:44
DaemonFC[m]If you get pregnant in high school and want to go to college, cheat nature itself and get an abortion.Sep 01 00:45
DaemonFC[m]"If you're good enough, you can cheat right in front of them and they won't even care.".Sep 01 00:46
DaemonFC[m](Using the example of Bill Belichick, a coach who won a bunch of football games by studying the other teams at practice, and then saying "I misinterpreted the rules.".'Sep 01 00:46
DaemonFC[m]It would be better if the mass media portrayed pregnancy as an awful and undesirable thing that will be the path to bankruptcy and sleepless nights.Sep 01 00:48
DaemonFC[m]Then if the kid ever does grow up, how did your life go? Enjoying it?Sep 01 00:48
DaemonFC[m]Everyone has regrets at the end, and some more than others, but if anyone says they don't they're lying to you or themselves. Sep 01 00:48
DaemonFC[m]Old people get religious because party time's over and they're in a nursing home wasting away because their adult kids don't want to see them anymore.Sep 01 00:49
DaemonFC[m]The same party that said abortion is wrong because it's murder didn't do a damned thing about the Coronavirus, and if you ask them what they think about having let it in the country to prey on nursing home residents, their real answer is "So what? The dude was 90. How long did he really have anyway? Open up! I wanna go to the bar!".Sep 01 00:50
DaemonFC[m]I meeesinterpreted the rules!Sep 01 00:55
DaemonFC[m]I MinceR-interpreted the rules! Like that time he told me to obey the lease by giving mom the cat for a day and getting a tiger, which was "one cat", and then having the tiger eat the landlord. Sep 01 00:56
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: I found a bunch of used door knobs when mom's work was being renovated. I had her mail me a box of them.Sep 01 00:57
DaemonFC[m]This was in Chicago when that nasty lady kept letting herself in. My lease said that tenant may change the door locks, but must provide the landlord with a key if requested.Sep 01 00:58
DaemonFC[m]It did not specify how many times I could change the lock, only that I had to give her a key each time she asked.Sep 01 00:58
DaemonFC[m]After like 5 times, she got mad, and I said, "Perhaps after we leave, you should change that clause of the lease.".Sep 01 00:59
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DaemonFC[m]MinceR: She was such a dolt that I probably could have pulled a Russian Credit Card guy and gotten her to sign something that looked like the lease she had dropped off.Sep 01 01:00
schestowitzlolSep 01 01:00
MinceRlol @ tigerSep 01 01:01
DaemonFC[m]Technically I could probably have sued Barry Whatshisnuts.Sep 01 01:22
DaemonFC[m]He voided my lease in Fox Lake and said it was because I committed a Class A Misdemeanor. It says, "Landlord may void lease if a felony or Class A Misdemeanor is committed on the premises.", but he didn't wait for an outcome. He voided the lease while I was on bail.Sep 01 01:23
DaemonFC[m]What I actually got punished for was a Class C Misdemeanor. Sep 01 01:23
DaemonFC[m]But if I sued him, they'd reopen the bankruptcy, ask why I didn't mention that I thought I could sue him, and then take any damages to give to my creditors.Sep 01 01:24
DaemonFC[m]I'm not a lawyer, so this is rather like idle speculation. It depends on what the meaning of "is" is. Sep 01 01:25
DaemonFC[m]It really wasn't much of a punishment. One of the things that it called for were court costs, which are user fees.Sep 01 01:26
DaemonFC[m]I was like, "Okay, you want to fantasize that this isn't extortion, I'll fantasize too.".Sep 01 01:26
DaemonFC[m]"Your services are subject to the bankruptcy."Sep 01 01:27
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: I actually took my lawyer back into the counsel room. Sep 01 01:29
DaemonFC[m]I said, "You think you can get me out of supervised probation and community service?".Sep 01 01:29
DaemonFC[m]He's like, "Well, they'll want something else.".Sep 01 01:29
DaemonFC[m]I said, "Offer them as much of a fine as they want.".Sep 01 01:29
schestowitzcommunity serviceSep 01 01:30
schestowitzmisnomer at timesSep 01 01:30
schestowitzif you assess who benefitsSep 01 01:30
schestowitzwith >Some< of these programsSep 01 01:30
schestowitzmaybe at one point "community service" will be "working at amazon fulfillment [sic] center"Sep 01 01:30
schestowitzto fulfil Jeff's dreamsSep 01 01:31
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Yeah, they take the probationers out under the August sun and make them pick up trash and condoms at the Walmart parking lot while Mandy laughs at them.Sep 01 01:31
DaemonFC[m]Meanwhile, I'm sitting here with my little umbrella drink.Sep 01 01:31
schestowitzwalmart should clean its own f-ing placeSep 01 01:31
schestowitznot use free labour Sep 01 01:32
schestowitzcommissioned by the stateSep 01 01:32
schestowitzmake them grow cropsSep 01 01:32
schestowitzand feed the poorSep 01 01:32
DaemonFC[m]They don't. They make people who got caught stealing from Walmart go out and pick up their lot as part of their punishment. Sep 01 01:32
schestowitznot clear "corporate property"Sep 01 01:32
schestowitz*cleanSep 01 01:32
DaemonFC[m]They make a cop go out there and watch them do it and log their hours. Sep 01 01:33
schestowitzso the taxpayers paysSep 01 01:33
schestowitzfor these copsSep 01 01:33
DaemonFC[m]Yep.Sep 01 01:33
DaemonFC[m]Yeppers.Sep 01 01:33
schestowitznot a bad deal for the waltonsSep 01 01:33
schestowitzcatch peopleSep 01 01:33
schestowitzturn them into walmart's slave labourSep 01 01:33
DaemonFC[m]No, it's not. Free trash pickup at every Walmart in Illinois.Sep 01 01:33
schestowitzpartly subsidised by taxpayers, tooSep 01 01:33
DaemonFC[m]Courtesy of the tax payers. Sep 01 01:33
schestowitzwalmart >is< trashSep 01 01:34
schestowitzI avoid all their stores hereSep 01 01:34
schestowitzknown as "asda" and "sainsburys"Sep 01 01:34
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Oh, you know as well as I do that the best way to get yourself out of trouble is guile.Sep 01 01:34
schestowitzthey barely even provide customer service anymoreSep 01 01:34
DaemonFC[m]Playing the "straight man" hardly ever works out well. Sep 01 01:34
schestowitzat some stage they want people to use machines, train themselves, use "contactless" to give their ID awaySep 01 01:35
schestowitzyou might end up giving your ID to buy f-ing chewing gunSep 01 01:35
schestowitz*gumSep 01 01:35
DaemonFC[m]Well, I do. 10% discount on the gum. :PSep 01 01:35
schestowitzthey punish people for privacySep 01 01:35
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Mandy's discount is added to his W2 as taxable wages.Sep 01 01:35
schestowitzthey penalise them financiallySep 01 01:35
schestowitzthis is wrongSep 01 01:35
DaemonFC[m]So I only ever shop at Walmart.Sep 01 01:35
schestowitzif you pay less for not using cash, I'd avoid your businessSep 01 01:35
DaemonFC[m]Whether he passes the wealth test depends on how much taxable income he made the year before we get called in for the interview, but I could also project it on an annual basis and use paystubs as evidence.Sep 01 01:36
DaemonFC[m]But you can show what your last tax filings were. Can't hurt.Sep 01 01:36
DaemonFC[m]I pay 15% less on anything in Walmart. Sep 01 01:37
DaemonFC[m]You can't even shop at Aldi for that.Sep 01 01:37
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Study the rules. Use their own rules against them. Best way out of most situations.Sep 01 01:39
DaemonFC[m]Have a bankruptcy court rip up the financial damage of the state court.Sep 01 01:39
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: My mom didn't know how to file bankruptcy against the IRS. Her lawyer said you couldn't. I said find another lawyer. Turns out 4 years of back taxes went away.Sep 01 01:40
DaemonFC[m]I told her "Sit on that parking ticket from the city. Add them as a creditor.".Sep 01 01:40
MinceRyou pay taxes for your back?Sep 01 01:41
DaemonFC[m]She filed the tax returns and then couldn't pay the taxes.Sep 01 01:41
DaemonFC[m]It's important to file for those years even if you can't pay.Sep 01 01:41
DaemonFC[m]If you wait and file multiple years at once, they aren't subject to the rule that bankruptcy wipes out taxes that are more than 3 years overdue. Sep 01 01:42
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: I went over everything before she went to another lawyer that I recommended.Sep 01 01:43
DaemonFC[m]I had her file bankruptcy against her divorce lawyer. Sep 01 01:43
DaemonFC[m]Three hospital visits.Sep 01 01:44
DaemonFC[m]Her ex husband's mortgage that his widow was living in, that she couldn't evict.Sep 01 01:44
DaemonFC[m]Several credit cards.Sep 01 01:44
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: I thought it was hilarious because Culley's family thought she was going to have to pay the mortgage or get garnished for it.Sep 01 01:45
DaemonFC[m]After the bankruptcy, the bank had the Sheriff come out and evict the Culleys.Sep 01 01:45
DaemonFC[m]She gives me problems to work on, so she framed it as "You know how you hated Brian? How would you like to get the bank to throw them out of the house?".Sep 01 01:46
DaemonFC[m]So I sat down and figured out how many weeks she'd have to be off work to bring her pay down to Chapter 7 bankruptcy limits in Indiana.Sep 01 01:47
DaemonFC[m]She took a 3 week unpaid leave from work and then filed bankruptcy on all of them.Sep 01 01:47
DaemonFC[m]There's an IRS fresh start program. Lots of late night TV scammers claiming they know how to get you out of trouble with the IRS.Sep 01 01:48
DaemonFC[m]It's just them filling out forms that you could fill out yourself that are probably going to be denied.Sep 01 01:49
DaemonFC[m]Oh, but you will pay them thousands before you find that out.Sep 01 01:49
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: The Illinois Northern District bankruptcy court had to bring in an "emergency judge".Sep 01 01:51
DaemonFC[m]The bankruptcies that are being filed have more documents than average attached to them.Sep 01 01:51
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: The 10th Circuit Court of Appeals just struck down the bankruptcy law that protects student loans from being discharged.Sep 01 01:59
schestowitzstudent loans... what a dumb conceptSep 01 02:08
schestowitzbetter yet, offer young people higher educationSep 01 02:08
schestowitzand don't them 20 years of debt slaverySep 01 02:08
schestowitzworks well, I suppose, when the goal is to maintain and extend inequalitySep 01 02:37
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Part of the point of bankruptcy is a way out when people took on debts to do something and it didn't work out or things went so bad that nothing else will ever work.Sep 01 02:37
schestowitzsome people chasing debt paymentsSep 01 02:37
schestowitzwhile the rest leap aheadSep 01 02:38
DaemonFC[m]It's a way of not being cruel to someone.Sep 01 02:38
schestowitzand get like $200,000,000,000 in >personal< wealthSep 01 02:38
schestowitzsocial security will be cut nextSep 01 02:38
schestowitzwith many bankruptcy that law too can changeSep 01 02:39
schestowitzmaybe no personal bankruptciesSep 01 02:39
schestowitzonly business onesSep 01 02:39
schestowitzlike in .PHSep 01 02:39
schestowitzask MandySep 01 02:39
schestowitzbut...Sep 01 02:39
schestowitzdebt prisons might not be back... yetSep 01 02:39
schestowitzuntil they figure out how to make those prisons a business tooSep 01 02:39
schestowitzlike GEO Global or whatever they're calledSep 01 02:39
schestowitzMaybe SercoSep 01 02:39
schestowitzand then sometimes can profit from incarceration of the "too poor" to be included in societySep 01 02:40
kingoffrancethere were private PPP facilities where they got rewarded for reaching capacity. i guess the theory is this means taking load off of the stateSep 01 02:41
kingoffrancelike, in theory, that means they are doing jobSep 01 02:42
kingoffrancein practice it means they are being rewarded the more ppl they can send thereSep 01 02:42
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Mandy says that if you owe debts you can't pay in the Philippines you skip town and hide.Sep 01 02:43
kingoffrance*doing a good jobSep 01 02:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Owner of Trump hotel in Vancouver files for bankruptcy - SFGateSep 01 02:50
schestowitzgoodSep 01 02:57
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Maybe the one in Chicago or New York will go under next.Sep 01 03:07
schestowitzgood riddanceSep 01 03:08
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DaemonFC[m]The building itself will still be there.Sep 01 03:21
DaemonFC[m]We can finally get his name off of it.Sep 01 03:21
DaemonFC[m]JC Penney is at risk of being converted to a Chapter 7.Sep 01 03:50
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: wanna read with me?Sep 01 04:11
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: both are about the kernelSep 01 04:33
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DaemonFC[m]YeahSep 01 05:15
DaemonFC[m]"For a number of years we’ve ‘lobbied’ Rust to “delete GitHub,” but the project never listened. Instead the project seems to have warned up further… to Microsoft."Sep 01 05:35
DaemonFC[m]warned up?Sep 01 05:35
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Sep 01 05:35
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: ah... warmed upSep 01 06:14
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: thanks, only just noticed IRCSep 01 06:14
schestowitzwaited for you like an hour.. LOLSep 01 06:14
DaemonFC[m]Yeah. Was busy with dinner.Sep 01 06:43
DaemonFC[m]Bored and reading about serial killers. Sep 01 06:44
DaemonFC[m]It's strange how all of the really weird and famous ones seem to be from the 19th and 20th centuries.Sep 01 06:46
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DaemonFC[m] 01 06:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Duck Walk Killer - WikipediaSep 01 06:55
DaemonFC[m]This guy was killing people in the neighborhood I lived in. Sep 01 06:56
DaemonFC[m]The cops came out and got me for running a stop sign.Sep 01 06:56
DaemonFC[m] 01 07:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Commentaries Archive | HeyJackass! HeyJackass!Sep 01 07:07
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schestowitz[06:43] <DaemonFC[m]> Yeah. Was busy with dinner.Sep 01 08:52
schestowitzwho does the cooking and is it special cuisine?Sep 01 08:52
schestowitzor just pasta and beans, chicken, etc.?Sep 01 08:52
schestowitzanyway, here's a questionSep 01 08:52
schestowitzdoes anyone want to help me dig interesting mails in ?Sep 01 08:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | NO TITLESep 01 08:53
schestowitzI've gone through about 1000 emailsSep 01 08:53
schestowitzthere are over 8000 in total, but the threading helps see the more relevant onesSep 01 08:53
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kingoffrancei saw a great adult swim blurb:   corporations + covid: were here for you    corporations + blm: were here for you      corporations + service outage: your wait time is 4 hours, please hold ...Sep 01 09:37
MinceR:>Sep 01 10:02
schestowitzadult swin?Sep 01 10:08
schestowitz*swimSep 01 10:08
kingoffrancecartoon networkSep 01 10:11
kingoffrancesorrySep 01 10:11
MinceR““I AM CONTRACTUALLY BOUND TO MURDER YOU” is a hell of a battlecry”Sep 01 10:14
kingoffrancenon-tech ppl get ticked at tech support just as much as tech ppl i guess is the moralSep 01 10:20
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schestowitzAriadne: will viera be revitalised this week? In the meantime i made copies of things manually.Sep 01 14:43
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schestowitzAriadne: "Holy crap, google is apparently taking down all/most fediverse apps from google play on the grounds that that some servers in the fediverse engage in hate speech" 01 19:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱: "Holy crap, google is apparently taking down all/m…" - Qoto MastodonSep 01 19:17
DaemonFC[m]<schestowitz "or just pasta and beans, chicken"> Macaroni and government cheese.Sep 01 19:17
DaemonFC[m]Literally I was tossing government cheese in there from the food bank. They just take all kinds of surplus cheese and smash it together into blocks.Sep 01 19:17
DaemonFC[m]The situation in the US is just terrible.Sep 01 19:17
DaemonFC[m]I told my dad if he votes for Trump again, he'd be "Dumber than Culley." (Gonad) "And by dumber than Culley, I mean dumber than his rotting corpse. I hope that clears the air.".Sep 01 19:17
XRevan86schestowitz, Ariadne: Um, we discussed that already.Sep 01 19:17
schestowitz6 Million Stricken With COVID-19: Trump Has Turned the US Into a Sh*thole Country 01 19:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | 6 Million Stricken With COVID-19: Trump Has Turned the US Into a Sh*thole Country | Common Dreams ViewsSep 01 19:18
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: isn't Sh*thole  what we call Don's mouth?Sep 01 19:18
schestowitztechnically it's a holeSep 01 19:19
schestowitzand shit constantly comes out of itSep 01 19:19
MinceRlolSep 01 19:26
MinceRso, google play is finally turning into a walled gardenSep 01 19:26
XRevan86> Gab doesn't federate (i.e. they broke server-to-server communication)Sep 01 19:28
XRevan86Aw, shucksSep 01 19:28
DaemonFC[m]I'll probably park my excess money in the "Growth" account.Sep 01 19:33
DaemonFC[m]Interest rates are bad these days, but some is better than none.Sep 01 19:33
DaemonFC[m]Getting into stocks is dangerous, to say the least.Sep 01 19:33
DaemonFC[m]Wall Street is booming based on fake valuations and news of layoffs, which are rewarded more than R&D and new products. Sep 01 19:34
DaemonFC[m]But I don't think that can last forever with a million people a week losing their jobs under Trump and unemployment funds going broke while he does nothing about it.Sep 01 19:34
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: It takes, sometimes, years, for bankruptcy surges after a recession.Sep 01 19:41
DaemonFC[m]I don't think bankruptcy filings hit their peak from 2008 until like 2012.Sep 01 19:41
DaemonFC[m]Usually what people do is they wait until the last possible second when they're already being sued.Sep 01 19:41
DaemonFC[m]But corporate filings surge in the actual year of the recession, and we're seeing more of those than we did in 2008 or 2009.Sep 01 19:42
DaemonFC[m]People can only do is once every 8 years, so it pays to wait as long as you can and just sit on all the bills that are coming in.Sep 01 19:43
DaemonFC[m]Literally, you know. Those credit card people might not sue for a year or two and you could have some really expensive medical bills or some traffic tickets or something to toss in if you wait.Sep 01 19:43
DaemonFC[m]I tossed in over $2,500 in medical debt from the past 12 months and that was just my copays. Sep 01 19:44
DaemonFC[m]Nothing REALLY bad happened. I had to go to the hospital for a CT Scan after Austin attacked me. Sep 01 19:44
DaemonFC[m]You know, a lot of people don't even take an ambulance when they think they're having a heart attack.Sep 01 19:45
DaemonFC[m]They call an Uber. Sep 01 19:45
DaemonFC[m]There have been people die in an Uber on their way to the ER because the Uber is ten bucks and the ambulance is $2,000.Sep 01 19:46
DaemonFC[m]I really worry that uber and lyft will fail because they've become a de facto ambulance company and without them, people will go into even deeper medical bills.Sep 01 19:47
DaemonFC[m]Because there's no way to know if your insurance will pay for the ambulance or not. They decide if it was serious based on what happens in the ER, and it's some person who is in an office somewhere going "Yeah, that billing code is less serious than one we'd pay for an ambulance ride on.".Sep 01 19:48
DaemonFC[m]I get better insurance than many people do and I still get lots of bills. Sep 01 19:49
DaemonFC[m]20% copay was set as a rule of thumb decades ago when medical treatments may have cost 20% of what they do now.Sep 01 19:50
DaemonFC[m]So you have to be insured to pay what your full bill would have been in the 80s.Sep 01 19:50
DaemonFC[m]Oh god, not even the 80s.Sep 01 19:50
DaemonFC[m]I didn't bother to buy health insurance in the 2000s because my doctor only charged me $35 as a cash patient.Sep 01 19:51
DaemonFC[m]Walmart had a $4 drug list for the most common medicines. Sep 01 19:51
DaemonFC[m]They and Kroger (and now Albertsons) try to compete with each other. They either sell the cheapest generics at a loss or give them away to get you in there because you may do your grocery shopping.Sep 01 19:52
DaemonFC[m]So now it's like $300 to go to the doctor as a cash patient. It's terrible.Sep 01 19:52
DaemonFC[m]But you go there to get a drug that might be free at the grocery store.Sep 01 19:53
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I'm not sure what would happen if the federal courts strike down the Affordable Care Act. People would lose their insurance, but then what?Sep 01 19:53
DaemonFC[m]When we had more people uninsured, the cost of being a cash patient was much less because doctors competed on price. Sep 01 19:54
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DaemonFC[m]The Do Not Call list is a joke.Sep 01 20:25
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DaemonFC[m]I think my phone started ringing more.Sep 01 21:18
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I called one of those bankruptcy junk mail companies.Sep 01 21:24
DaemonFC[m]They asked why I wanted them to stop and I said, "You've been prohibited from sending me mail and I can turn these over to the post office, where you will pay $5,500 each time you send me a letter. Furthermore, anyone who pays 28% interest on a used car is an idiot.".Sep 01 21:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Black Owners Accuse McDonald's Of Systematic Discrimination In $1BN Lawsuit | Zero HedgeSep 01 22:19
DaemonFC[m]McDonalds bailing out white franchisees only. Sep 01 22:20
DaemonFC[m]The number of black-owned McDonalds restaurants in the country fell by half in the last 20 years, and now they say that the company won't give them the same subsidies that it does to ones owned by white people.Sep 01 22:20
DaemonFC[m]Ray Kroc was a really bad guy.Sep 01 22:21
DaemonFC[m]He pretty much stole the brand and the business model from its original owners and then strongarmed them into a shitty deal, and then didn't even give them the royalties they were owed under that contract.Sep 01 22:21
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