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| schestowitz | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: ping | Nov 01 00:00 |
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| schestowitz | I got an answer back | Nov 01 00:01 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Am around but not wholly awake | Nov 01 00:01 |
| schestowitz | would sftp access suit you, chrooted? | Nov 01 00:01 |
| schestowitz | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: ok, speak later then | Nov 01 00:01 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Yeah. Tomorrow morning is a better time | Nov 01 00:01 |
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| schestowitz | ewww... snaps | Nov 01 01:01 |
| schestowitz | https://snapcraft.io/install/gopher-yujinrobot/centos | Nov 01 01:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-snapcraft.io | Install gopher-yujinrobot on CentOS using the Snap Store | Snapcraft | Nov 01 01:01 | |
| schestowitz | the leading person of snaps left some weeks ago, iirc | Nov 01 01:02 |
| schestowitz | putting gopherd on centos would not be simple | Nov 01 01:02 |
| schestowitz | http://gofish.sourceforge.net/ | Nov 01 01:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gofish.sourceforge.net | GoFish Gopher Server | Nov 01 01:03 | |
| schestowitz | anyone has experience with this one? | Nov 01 01:03 |
| schestowitz | not updated for ages | Nov 01 01:03 |
| schestowitz | "Last modified: Sun Dec 15 20:11:42 EST 2002" | Nov 01 01:04 |
| schestowitz | wow | Nov 01 01:04 |
| schestowitz | https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=gopher&sektion=1&apropos=0&manpath=FreeBSD+9.0-RELEASE+and+Ports | Nov 01 01:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freebsd.org | gopher(1) | Nov 01 01:04 | |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 01 01:04 |
| schestowitz | The Internet Gopher(tm) software anddocumentation is copyright (c) | Nov 01 01:05 |
| schestowitz | 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 by the Universityof Minnesota. | Nov 01 01:05 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 01 01:05 |
| schestowitz | Ancient stuff | Nov 01 01:05 |
| schestowitz | need to research this further before tinkering and maybe breaking something on production | Nov 01 01:05 |
| schestowitz | we don't have a live test server | Nov 01 01:05 |
| schestowitz | Ariadne: do you have gopher experience from the pleroma work of laine (iirc the name correctly)? | Nov 01 01:06 |
| schestowitz | we wonder how simple it would be to serve static over the same domain with gopher:// | Nov 01 01:06 |
| schestowitz | we now have daily text-only bulletins for the site, generated after midnight | Nov 01 01:06 |
| schestowitz | no html in there, so gopher would not moan, it would be identical | Nov 01 01:07 |
| oiaohm | the bad news is gopher these days gets nuked by some ISP networks filters. | Nov 01 01:07 |
| oiaohm | its the need for port 70. | Nov 01 01:08 |
| schestowitz | so some isps would port-block it? | Nov 01 01:09 |
| schestowitz | what's the logic? | Nov 01 01:09 |
| schestowitz | it's not harmful, is it? | Nov 01 01:09 |
| schestowitz | and few use programs that can make sense of such transmissions regardless | Nov 01 01:09 |
| oiaohm | Its when they setup their port blocks different services they screwed up and of course they don't test if gopher works. | Nov 01 01:10 |
| oiaohm | Mind you the number of gopher servers out there is growing. | Nov 01 01:11 |
| oiaohm | slowly but growing. | Nov 01 01:11 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: I am not saying don't setup a gopher server just be aware due to small market share you can have some issues with ISP filters. This can mean you can have people complaining they can connect one day and not the next all depending on what route they get though the internet. | Nov 01 01:13 |
| oiaohm | Of course gopher without people adding servers will never grow enough market share for ISPs to class it as important. | Nov 01 01:14 |
| schestowitz | we need to help it grow | Nov 01 01:20 |
| schestowitz | http(s)/3 is google | Nov 01 01:20 |
| schestowitz | and too much other crap, with w3c and further down the stack | Nov 01 01:20 |
| schestowitz | ipv6 is another issue | Nov 01 01:20 |
| schestowitz | but that's further down | Nov 01 01:20 |
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| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | schestowitz: so what's up with the server access? | Nov 01 10:48 |
| schestowitz | morning | Nov 01 10:49 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Good morning | Nov 01 10:49 |
| schestowitz | so... I spoke to an associate | Nov 01 10:49 |
| schestowitz | [22:40] <schestowitz> > I think the idea of educating the public about PKI is very important. | Nov 01 10:50 |
| schestowitz | [22:40] <schestowitz> > It's something that TR ought to help with somehow and the proposal is | Nov 01 10:50 |
| schestowitz | [22:40] <schestowitz> > quite timely and worthy. I worry about the choice of platform though. | Nov 01 10:50 |
| schestowitz | [22:40] <schestowitz> > | Nov 01 10:50 |
| schestowitz | [22:40] <schestowitz> > In general, my position that Windows use should neither be accepted nor | Nov 01 10:50 |
| schestowitz | [22:40] <schestowitz> > condoned for any purpose has only hardened over the years as I have had | Nov 01 10:50 |
| schestowitz | [22:40] <schestowitz> > more time to observe it [1] and think. Above all it is an ineffectual | Nov 01 10:50 |
| schestowitz | [22:40] <schestowitz> > platform for teaching and instruction, so while a tutorial on PKI might | Nov 01 10:50 |
| schestowitz | [22:40] <schestowitz> > be better than nothing the Windows component will be a very heavy | Nov 01 10:50 |
| schestowitz | [22:40] <schestowitz> > liability which is likely to prevent achieving any teaching objective. | Nov 01 10:50 |
| schestowitz | [22:40] <schestowitz> > However, I agree strongly with the goal otherwise. It is also a problem | Nov 01 10:50 |
| schestowitz | [22:40] <schestowitz> > that neither the Crypto Wars II and Software Patents which warrant the | Nov 01 10:50 |
| schestowitz | [22:40] <schestowitz> > severity of the | Nov 01 10:50 |
| schestowitz | [22:40] <schestowitz> > | Nov 01 10:50 |
| schestowitz | [22:40] <schestowitz> > As for the hands-on aspects of learning, I strongly agree with that | Nov 01 10:50 |
| schestowitz | [22:40] <schestowitz> > approach. While computer science, actual science, can be (and probably | Nov 01 10:50 |
| schestowitz | [22:40] <schestowitz> > should) taught very well with paper and pencil exclusively, actually | Nov 01 10:50 |
| schestowitz | [22:40] <schestowitz> > doing something to apply knowledge that can help with the education very | Nov 01 10:50 |
| schestowitz | [22:40] <schestowitz> > much. Since this is 2020 and not 1980 I have to point out that two or | Nov 01 10:50 |
| schestowitz | [22:40] <schestowitz> > more different implementations and platforms have to be used, otherwise | Nov 01 10:50 |
| schestowitz | [22:40] <schestowitz> > it is not education but training and that would not be useful for | Nov 01 10:50 |
| schestowitz | [22:40] <schestowitz> > promoting understanding at a level necessary for dealing with the | Nov 01 10:50 |
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| schestowitz | [22:40] <schestowitz> > abstractions the proposed laws claim to be addressing. | Nov 01 10:50 |
| schestowitz | [22:40] <schestowitz> > | Nov 01 10:50 |
| schestowitz | [22:40] <schestowitz> > So if the target is Windows users, I don't know what to say. Getting | Nov 01 10:50 |
| schestowitz | [22:40] <schestowitz> > them to use a second platform, even in a VM, will raise the learning | Nov 01 10:50 |
| schestowitz | [22:40] <schestowitz> > curve psychologically beyond the threshold of what many will tolerate. | Nov 01 10:50 |
| schestowitz | [22:40] <schestowitz> > Besides with Windows as a host, the guest won't get used, all the time | Nov 01 10:50 |
| schestowitz | [22:40] <schestowitz> > will be spent dorking around with the host system's shortcomings. Yet, | Nov 01 10:51 |
| schestowitz | [22:40] <schestowitz> > I see introduction of a second platform there as a necessary first step. | Nov 01 10:51 |
| schestowitz | [22:40] <schestowitz> > Dual booting is out, but a third option, that of live images might be | Nov 01 10:51 |
| schestowitz | [22:40] <schestowitz> > ok. The image can be streamlined for the task with the necessary | Nov 01 10:51 |
| schestowitz | [22:40] <schestowitz> > components preinstalled and, maybe also, preconfigured. | Nov 01 10:51 |
| schestowitz | /fin | Nov 01 10:51 |
| schestowitz | now, my question is, what would directly access be used for and how? | Nov 01 10:51 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Re: the whole windows thing. The reality is most people use Windows. I'm taking a pragmatic approach with this project. Education of the public rapidly is a bigger priority than OS concerns rn. It's going to be hard enough to get people to spend time on the project before adding more overhead of material. | Nov 01 10:54 |
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| schestowitz | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: makes sense | Nov 01 10:56 |
| schestowitz | is it pdf-formatted? | Nov 01 10:56 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Yes | Nov 01 10:56 |
| schestowitz | for universality (no docx :-) ) | Nov 01 10:56 |
| schestowitz | "get your Office licence and encrypt :-)" | Nov 01 10:56 |
| schestowitz | I always get a kick out of 'clown'-based 'encrypted' email | Nov 01 10:57 |
| schestowitz | with no browser plugins for private keys or similar mechanism | Nov 01 10:57 |
| schestowitz | or if you can remember MEGA | Nov 01 10:57 |
| schestowitz | when kim dotcom ran it | Nov 01 10:57 |
| schestowitz | later the farce of MEGA 'privacy' become more farcical | Nov 01 10:58 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Re: direct access. I was going to ask the same question myself. You can an `echo "help_item" >> /path/to/my/tasks` and I can see what I can do. | Nov 01 10:58 |
| schestowitz | BTW, we're in front page of hackernews at the moment | Nov 01 10:58 |
| schestowitz | this page http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA | Nov 01 10:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights | Nov 01 10:58 | |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | What did you do to achieve that? lol | Nov 01 10:58 |
| schestowitz | I ought to check who/where... to see comments | Nov 01 10:58 |
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| schestowitz | found something. I think that's the one (there may be more): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24957702 | Nov 01 10:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.ycombinator.com | Microsoft and the NSA | Hacker News | Nov 01 10:59 | |
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| schestowitz | " | Nov 01 11:00 |
| schestowitz | It's fun to see a more old school style website, in both the sense of presentation and content. Go techrights. | Nov 01 11:00 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/?stories | Nov 01 11:00 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 01 11:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights | Free Software Sentry โ watching and reporting maneuvers of those threatened by software freedom | Nov 01 11:00 | |
| schestowitz | Hacker News is usually hostile towards hacker culture, IME | Nov 01 11:00 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | IME? | Nov 01 11:00 |
| schestowitz | in my experience | Nov 01 11:02 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Ah | Nov 01 11:02 |
| schestowitz | I don't know if the comment above was satirical | Nov 01 11:02 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Brb making tea | Nov 01 11:02 |
| schestowitz | but my personal site is 2002 style | Nov 01 11:02 |
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| schestowitz | when it was last set for style or templates | Nov 01 11:02 |
| schestowitz | techrights 2006 | Nov 01 11:02 |
| schestowitz | and now falling back on text only, utf8 | Nov 01 11:02 |
| schestowitz | no shame in it | Nov 01 11:02 |
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| schestowitz | in fact, I think there's a growing 'niche' of people who appreciate not having to go to some google site for megabytes of FONTS just to read one single article | Nov 01 11:03 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | ping me about `serveez` when I'm back. | Nov 01 11:03 |
| schestowitz | kk | Nov 01 11:03 |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/NoFilterNews/comments/jlzdw1/hacker_news_microsoft_and_the_nsa/ | Nov 01 11:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Hacker News: Microsoft and the NSA : NoFilterNews | Nov 01 11:06 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Arch Linuxโs ISO Is Now Powered by Linux Kernel 5.9, Offers New Accessibility Features โข ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐ธ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143887 [https://pleroma.site/objects/235bf98d-3e44-41fc-86e6-15a821976a9d] | Nov 01 11:09 | |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Alright. Back | Nov 01 11:20 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | So this serveez thing ties in with your old-school website idea | Nov 01 11:20 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I was evaluating a lot of different programming languages and I came to a conclusion | Nov 01 11:21 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | To take back control of the web we really need to be able to do 2 things. Have a distributed infrastructure (read IPFS) and be able to run our operations on low-resource servers. | Nov 01 11:21 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Raku and all the other high level programming languages are too heavy | Nov 01 11:22 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I've been doing up some reading and Guile is a sweet spot between abstraction and performance. It's easy to write as well because of the LISP syntax | Nov 01 11:22 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Now where `serveez` comes in is that it's a great reference implementation for things like HTTP, IRC, etc. | Nov 01 11:22 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | And `serveez` is in Guile. My whole idea is to build a system where we serve very simple pages that are generated algorithmically and are optimized for operation with IPFS and IRC. | Nov 01 11:23 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | That way anyone can just buy a cheap Raspberry Pi and have their own operation up and running. It would also allow people to easily support P2P content of projects they like or collaborate with. | Nov 01 11:24 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | A nice thing about IPFS is that it gets rid of DNS which is one of the key spying technologies of the web today | Nov 01 11:24 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | If you give me a chroot environment with a couple hundred megabytes of disk, I should be able to get IPFS up and running for you with podman. And all sorts of other things as well. | Nov 01 11:25 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Right now, we face the problem that CMS are too heavy. That bloat is what's holding a lot of projects back. | Nov 01 11:26 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | In the past, computers with much less memory and CPU were powering multi-billion transaction scales | Nov 01 11:27 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Everything I'm working on now is tied in to low-powered hardware. All my stuff can run on a single Raspberry Pi on its tiny SD card. | Nov 01 11:28 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | External storage is as simple as just adding a USB HDD. | Nov 01 11:28 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | All my work is going to be AGPLv3 to prevent tivoization and SAASi\ation | Nov 01 11:30 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | SAASization* | Nov 01 11:30 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | And we already have GnuPG. We can easily build authentication systems around that with some wrapper scripts. GnuPG runs on embedded devices just fine. | Nov 01 11:31 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | And I've come to the decision that only two languages will be used, whenever possible: Guile and C. | Nov 01 11:33 |
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| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | schestowitz: would appreciate if you could archive this snippet, for future reference. | Nov 01 11:35 |
| schestowitz | it islogged | Nov 01 11:35 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Oh yeah. Forgot | Nov 01 11:35 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | We should still keep things like the Wiki around, though. I didn't even know Techrights has a wiki. | Nov 01 11:36 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I've got one big project that has to do with security but I'm not going to reveal that until there is a working prototype. When it's done, Techrights will be the first to know. | Nov 01 11:37 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | You can gleam some hints from the urgent email I sent you a while ago. | Nov 01 11:38 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | "with IPFS and IRC" I meant "and RSS"* | Nov 01 11:45 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | RSS/Atom is crucial for us as well because it allows privacy-respecting consumption of notifications. And people will appreciate not having their inbox spammed with notifications. | Nov 01 11:46 |
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| schestowitz | what does "inbox" mean these days/ | Nov 01 11:50 |
| schestowitz | when there are several concept of "push notifications"? | Nov 01 11:50 |
| schestowitz | I read about there being some "open-source" ones | Nov 01 11:50 |
| schestowitz | whatever that means, I'm not familiar with how those protocols work, I assume periodic polling or pushes from the server side to the phones antenna-connected (tower) coprocessor | Nov 01 11:51 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | It's the pub/sub model | Nov 01 11:51 |
| schestowitz | publish/subs? | Nov 01 11:51 |
| schestowitz | like you publish and then it pushes out to people? | Nov 01 11:51 |
| schestowitz | rather than them polling for updates when none exist? | Nov 01 11:51 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | You have a publisher server and subscriber devices/clients | Nov 01 11:51 |
| schestowitz | (I suppose with mobile bandwidth and battery life are a bigger factor) | Nov 01 11:52 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | So a subscriber registers with a publisher to "subscribe" to certain content. Publishers can separate content into different streams. If a client is subscribed to a particular stream, if data is "pushed" in that stream, the subscriber will "pull" it. | Nov 01 11:52 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | That's essentially what things like Apache Kafka do. | Nov 01 11:53 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Whereas RSS/Atom is more on a polling model. Publishers just update their content and clients periodically visit to see if there's anything new. | Nov 01 11:53 |
| schestowitz | I installed kafka on my laptop | Nov 01 11:54 |
| schestowitz | it's as boring as f | Nov 01 11:54 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | It's a bunch of Java bloat. lol | Nov 01 11:55 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Nov 01 11:55 |
| schestowitz | for something very simple | Nov 01 11:55 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Indeed. It's ridiculously simple to implement. | Nov 01 11:56 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Main reason it's popular is that it just became a standard. People shouldn't underestimate the power of turnkey solutions. | Nov 01 11:56 |
| schestowitz | didn't see why I even needed to download a massive s/w package for it | Nov 01 11:56 |
| schestowitz | unix pipes can accomplish a lot, e.g. passwordless rsync/ssh remote commands | Nov 01 11:56 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | pub/sub is basically just having a bunch of clients listening to a server for updates. | Nov 01 11:58 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | It's literally that simple | Nov 01 11:58 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | You can implement a cache as well, to allow a system of ACK to make sure people don't miss things. | Nov 01 11:59 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | D-Bus is also pub/sub model | Nov 01 11:59 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | But I don't really know details. It's outside my security niche | Nov 01 11:59 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Another big thing is that we should all be using UDP more. TCP is incredibly heavy and wholly unnecessary for a lot of things. | Nov 01 12:06 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Implementing an ACK system over UDP is so simple. | Nov 01 12:06 |
| schestowitz | UDP is still being used | Nov 01 12:06 |
| schestowitz | it's reliable enough for some things | Nov 01 12:06 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I know but the web still runs on TCP | Nov 01 12:06 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | UDP being unreliable is a lie | Nov 01 12:06 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | You can always keep polling for an ACK | Nov 01 12:07 |
| schestowitz | like... if a packet is lost with a notification in it, the next time around it'll work fine | Nov 01 12:07 |
| schestowitz | until you receive that notification, missing from your stack of packets | Nov 01 12:07 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Yes. That's the best part about UDP. Lossy connections don't screw your ops to a halt. | Nov 01 12:07 |
| schestowitz | you can also keep count | Nov 01 12:07 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Yeah. It's not like caches don't exist | Nov 01 12:07 |
| schestowitz | so fault tolerance can be NOT buffered into the packets themselves | Nov 01 12:08 |
| schestowitz | might save cpu time/power, not just bandwidth | Nov 01 12:08 |
| schestowitz | though I think the ethernet ports and similar stacks offload packet expansion and processing to hardware | Nov 01 12:08 |
| schestowitz | (pretty sure that's the case, would be foolish not to) | Nov 01 12:09 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | That's just normal layers of networking | Nov 01 12:09 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Every layer is encapsulated by metadata from the layer below it | Nov 01 12:09 |
| schestowitz | wordpress is very heavy | Nov 01 12:10 |
| schestowitz | mediawiki I can cope with | Nov 01 12:10 |
| schestowitz | we can do about 1000 reqs a minute | Nov 01 12:10 |
| schestowitz | wordpress without static page caching is choking at around 200 a minute, depending on the page and what files it comes with | Nov 01 12:10 |
| schestowitz | static we can do thousands a minute, like these pages: http://techrights.org/transparency/debian/debian-private/ | Nov 01 12:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Index of /transparency/debian/debian-private | Nov 01 12:11 | |
| schestowitz | hence the interest of serving just plain text to those who are satisfied enough with it | Nov 01 12:11 |
| schestowitz | I myself read 90% of "my news" (all the politics, climate, tech stuff) in Kate | Nov 01 12:11 |
| schestowitz | plain text | Nov 01 12:11 |
| schestowitz | the rest in RSS feed, usually without opening the pages, just simple html | Nov 01 12:12 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | The nice thing about UDP is that broadcasting is super simple | Nov 01 12:13 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | It's a "connectionless" protocol | Nov 01 12:13 |
| schestowitz | anyway, I put this in my todo list | Nov 01 12:14 |
| schestowitz | not sure if you notice, front page of techrights.org has an email encryption guide in it | Nov 01 12:15 |
| schestowitz | for windows esp. | Nov 01 12:15 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Haven't looked | Nov 01 12:15 |
| schestowitz | I didn't write it, it was contributed to us ages ago | Nov 01 12:15 |
| schestowitz | we're one of the few news site that encrypt almost all comms | Nov 01 12:15 |
| schestowitz | among key people and sources esp. | Nov 01 12:16 |
| schestowitz | most of my mail is encrypted in and out, exc. the spam | Nov 01 12:16 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Same here | Nov 01 12:16 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/DNSCrypt_Guide.pdf | Nov 01 12:16 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Btw | Nov 01 12:16 |
| schestowitz | THis is the one linked in the front page | Nov 01 12:16 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | > it's reliable enough for some things | Nov 01 12:16 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | When people say that | Nov 01 12:16 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | They forget DNS works over UDP | Nov 01 12:16 |
| schestowitz | (I did not write it, cannot vouch for it, assumes most people use Windows... or used by it) | Nov 01 12:16 |
| schestowitz | DNS is crucial in the speed sense | Nov 01 12:17 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Next time someone says UDP is unreliable, ask them why DNS uses UDP | Nov 01 12:17 |
| schestowitz | Firefox/Moz offloading DNS to Comcast and ClownFlare now | Nov 01 12:17 |
| schestowitz | insane, I know.. | Nov 01 12:17 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/06/25/mozilla-comcast/ | Nov 01 12:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mozilla Shames Itself and Harms Its Reputation by Stating That โComcast Has Taken Major Steps to Protect Customer Privacyโ | Techrights | Nov 01 12:17 | |
| schestowitz | someone from moz was here in IRC yesterday | Nov 01 12:18 |
| Chaekyung | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: it doesn't matter what order your packet for one DNS request arrives in | Nov 01 12:18 |
| schestowitz | pulling my legs for pointing out they had been using azure | Nov 01 12:18 |
| schestowitz | for data | Nov 01 12:18 |
| Chaekyung | I'd say TCP is better than UDP. Then again Google is moving towards using UDP for web connections, they already use it for google's own services | Nov 01 12:18 |
| schestowitz | google does whatever google wants | Nov 01 12:19 |
| schestowitz | they 'own' a lot of traffic | Nov 01 12:19 |
| schestowitz | youtube esp., volume-wise | Nov 01 12:19 |
| Chaekyung | very few people know this but since google is large portion of the internet QUIC (multiplexed UDP) is used for like half of all web connections | Nov 01 12:19 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Chaekyung: yes, but that's a justified use of TCP. But pretty much everything in the "web" uses TCP now. | Nov 01 12:19 |
| schestowitz | they say netflix is also high, due to HD, but have not checked lately how that compared to youtube | Nov 01 12:19 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Chaekyung: regardless of whether TCP is the right choice or not. | Nov 01 12:19 |
| schestowitz | the way they teach cs now,students won't know the diff | Nov 01 12:20 |
| schestowitz | or what those are | Nov 01 12:20 |
| schestowitz | they'll learn "frameworks" | Nov 01 12:20 |
| schestowitz | and "full stack" | Nov 01 12:20 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | CS? You mean framework development? | Nov 01 12:20 |
| schestowitz | and "cloud" | Nov 01 12:20 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Beat me to it | Nov 01 12:20 |
| schestowitz | no, Computer Science | Nov 01 12:20 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | It was a joke | Nov 01 12:21 |
| schestowitz | though I have not seen a CS syllabus for a while | Nov 01 12:21 |
| Chaekyung | I have no idea what they teach students these days | Nov 01 12:21 |
| schestowitz | do they still force them to code in assembly for educational purposes? | Nov 01 12:21 |
| schestowitz | or programmable boards? | Nov 01 12:21 |
| Chaekyung | I have the impression it's a lot of leftist propaganda | Nov 01 12:21 |
| Chaekyung | but I don't know | Nov 01 12:21 |
| Chaekyung | I am too old | Nov 01 12:21 |
| schestowitz | CS? | Nov 01 12:21 |
| schestowitz | not politics | Nov 01 12:21 |
| schestowitz | nothing to do with "leftist" | Nov 01 12:22 |
| schestowitz | hipsterish, maybe | Nov 01 12:22 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I'm pretty sure QUIC is already going to be the standard in a year or two | Nov 01 12:22 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I've been looking at all the big infra providers pushing it. | Nov 01 12:23 |
| schestowitz | http/3 | Nov 01 12:33 |
| schestowitz | https://blog.cloudflare.com/http3-the-past-present-and-future/ | Nov 01 12:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.cloudflare.com | HTTP/3: the past, the present, and the future | Nov 01 12:33 | |
| schestowitz | "During last yearโs Birthday Week we announced preliminary support for QUIC and HTTP/3 (or โHTTP over QUICโ as it was known back then), the new standard for the web, enabling faster" | Nov 01 12:33 |
| schestowitz | look who backs those things | Nov 01 12:33 |
| schestowitz | spying sieves | Nov 01 12:33 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | This is kind of why I've been pushing IPFS everywhere | Nov 01 12:36 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Throwing away DNS is going to be a boon for privacy | Nov 01 12:37 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | At least, reducing the use of DNS | Nov 01 12:37 |
| schestowitz | there's more to spying than that | Nov 01 12:38 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I know | Nov 01 12:38 |
| schestowitz | inc. switching | Nov 01 12:38 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | But it's a pragmatic step forward | Nov 01 12:39 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | The solution is already mature enough to implement | Nov 01 12:39 |
| schestowitz | dns= phonebook | Nov 01 12:39 |
| schestowitz | traffic= calls | Nov 01 12:39 |
| schestowitz | few encrypt those things | Nov 01 12:39 |
| schestowitz | and you can see source and destination ips | Nov 01 12:39 |
| schestowitz | people would blast me for saying, but https is OK for logging | Nov 01 12:40 |
| schestowitz | but not for actual privacy | Nov 01 12:40 |
| schestowitz | even without JS and trackers and cookies | Nov 01 12:40 |
| schestowitz | which most people accept explicitly or by default even over https | Nov 01 12:40 |
| schestowitz | so what sort of 'privacy' is that anyway? | Nov 01 12:41 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | We need a turnkey solution. Right now the parts are still under development. | Nov 01 12:41 |
| schestowitz | data brokers even know the pertinent pages you visit, when, how long for, how the mouse was moved (JS) | Nov 01 12:41 |
| scientes | <vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx> The nice thing about UDP is that broadcasting is super simple | Nov 01 12:41 |
| scientes | <vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx> It's a "connectionless" protocol | Nov 01 12:41 |
| scientes | https://www.hardkernel.com/shop/weather-board-2/ | Nov 01 12:41 |
| scientes | cool | Nov 01 12:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hardkernel.com | Weather Board 2 โ ODROID | Nov 01 12:41 | |
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| schestowitz | all the 'privacy' solutions, like Tor, also assume no mitm | Nov 01 12:42 |
| schestowitz | you need to trust most onion layers | Nov 01 12:42 |
| schestowitz | and we already know honeypots do exist | Nov 01 12:43 |
| schestowitz | never mind any 0-days | Nov 01 12:43 |
| schestowitz | ioerror used to put it in a funny way | Nov 01 12:43 |
| schestowitz | if he wanted privacy, he's speak in the sauna | Nov 01 12:43 |
| schestowitz | *he'd | Nov 01 12:43 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | lol | Nov 01 12:43 |
| schestowitz | where microphones are at risk of malfunction | Nov 01 12:43 |
| schestowitz | and without clothes on it's harder to hide or secure these | Nov 01 12:43 |
| schestowitz | nothing like 'pool talk' | Nov 01 12:44 |
| schestowitz | otr liquid-cooled | Nov 01 12:44 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | The main issue right now is IP spying. There's still no good solution against that. | Nov 01 12:44 |
| schestowitz | none bulletproof | Nov 01 12:45 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Because you can't really do much to IP. It's not the protocol's fault. | Nov 01 12:45 |
| schestowitz | and if thunderbird makes decisions about what messages need locks | Nov 01 12:45 |
| schestowitz | either by negligence or intentiob | Nov 01 12:45 |
| schestowitz | intention | Nov 01 12:45 |
| scientes | <schestowitz> ioerror used to put it in a funny way | Nov 01 12:45 |
| scientes | <schestowitz> if he wanted privacy, he's speak in the sauna | Nov 01 12:45 |
| schestowitz | Debian is now developed partly on Google servers | Nov 01 12:45 |
| schestowitz | after Google gave them LOADS of money | Nov 01 12:45 |
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| scientes | schestowitz, yeah, I like how effectively he breaks the "nothing to hide, nothing to loose" argument | Nov 01 12:46 |
| scientes | Then take off your clothes! You don't have anything to hide, right? | Nov 01 12:46 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | > I like how he breaks ... argument. | Nov 01 12:46 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Link pls/ | Nov 01 12:46 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | ?* | Nov 01 12:46 |
| schestowitz | put a bathing suit on | Nov 01 12:46 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Would like to read | Nov 01 12:46 |
| schestowitz | male nipples never caused a scandal | Nov 01 12:46 |
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| scientes | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx, he just says "everyone in this room is wearing clothes, so you all have something to hide" | Nov 01 12:46 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Ah. lol | Nov 01 12:47 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Good one | Nov 01 12:47 |
| schestowitz | I've yet to read about someone being recorded secretly in the sauna or pool | Nov 01 12:47 |
| schestowitz | (*until then....) | Nov 01 12:47 |
| schestowitz | scientes: the greenwald line (that he borrowed) is, you all use email passwords | Nov 01 12:48 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Does somebody have a link to this "ioerror" on the web? | Nov 01 12:48 |
| schestowitz | "nothing to hide" = everyone can access my inbox, read-only | Nov 01 12:48 |
| schestowitz | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: it's Jake Appelbaum's nickname | Nov 01 12:48 |
| schestowitz | surely you refer to that particular bit | Nov 01 12:48 |
| schestowitz | not the person | Nov 01 12:48 |
| schestowitz | he had that in German media, maybe keynotes talks too | Nov 01 12:49 |
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| schestowitz | because he was declared pervert (he might be sexually perverse... but afaik nothing criminal) | Nov 01 12:49 |
| schestowitz | asking someone if s/he wants to pop a drug and join for sex is obscene, but likely not a crime in Germany | Nov 01 12:50 |
| schestowitz | we've moved into a societal mode though of thoughtcrime | Nov 01 12:50 |
| schestowitz | so you can lose your career and personal life for merely arguing something legally, but it's not legal in the eyes of social control media mob of one flavour or another | Nov 01 12:50 |
| schestowitz | pieter hitjens wrote about twitter factions | Nov 01 12:51 |
| schestowitz | and how they gang up with so-called causes. | Nov 01 12:51 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: do you have the url? | Nov 01 12:51 |
| scientes | if society is sick it cannot fight off slander and libel | Nov 01 12:51 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | "Cancel culture" | Nov 01 12:51 |
| schestowitz | *pieter-hintjens | Nov 01 12:51 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | This is why I don't participate in social media | Nov 01 12:52 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | It's a weapon now | Nov 01 12:52 |
| scientes | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx, lack of culture | Nov 01 12:52 |
| scientes | except you are only digging your own grave | Nov 01 12:52 |
| scientes | you are biting the hand that feeds you | Nov 01 12:52 |
| schestowitz | I need to use Google | Nov 01 12:52 |
| schestowitz | searx is just displaying lots of worthless tweets instead of actual results | Nov 01 12:53 |
| scientes | M.I.A. has a shirt that reads "Fuck Google, Ask Me" | Nov 01 12:53 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | One of the reasons I decided to contribute here is because Techrights is a buffer against that toxic culture. | Nov 01 12:54 |
| scientes | and given that the internet really only has stuff from the last few decades, that isn't unreasonable | Nov 01 12:54 |
| scientes | few realize just how limited the information available on the internet is | Nov 01 12:54 |
| scientes | most information is only available in books | Nov 01 12:54 |
| scientes | physical books | Nov 01 12:54 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I think digital books are important. | Nov 01 12:54 |
| scientes | or even the physical world | Nov 01 12:55 |
| schestowitz | http://hintjens.com/blog:125 | Nov 01 12:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Confessions of a Necromancer - Hintjens.com | Nov 01 12:55 | |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | It's very easy to archive a book once you've got a digital copy | Nov 01 12:55 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | You can even compress the book, and then make a physical copy of the compressed version | Nov 01 12:55 |
| schestowitz | found it http://hintjens.com/blog:114 | Nov 01 12:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why I've Quit Twitter - Hintjens.com | Nov 01 12:55 | |
| scientes | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx, and then when the power goes out? | Nov 01 12:55 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | You didn't let me finish :P | Nov 01 12:56 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | > You can even compress the book, and then make a physical copy of the compressed version | Nov 01 12:56 |
| scientes | that doesn't make any sense | Nov 01 12:56 |
| schestowitz | I can't believe he put his book in Amazon... amazing | Nov 01 12:56 |
| scientes | you need to print the book in a form that can be consumed by humans | Nov 01 12:56 |
| schestowitz | sort of defeats the purpose and spirit | Nov 01 12:56 |
| schestowitz | http://hintjens.com/blog:114 | Nov 01 12:56 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 01 12:56 |
| schestowitz | Let me cite these by name and explain each. I'm not going to use any links. Explore further at your own risk. | Nov 01 12:56 |
| schestowitz | We have the third wave feminists (3WF), promising a nirvana where maleness is a birth crime and femininity will Save the World. It has its mystical roots in Gaia the Earth Mother, and it appeals to an ancient conflict between men and women. The conflict expresses in every couple, every family, and within individuals. | Nov 01 12:57 |
| scientes | amazon is the only print-on-demand book company right now | Nov 01 12:57 |
| schestowitz | 3WF collects women looking for a cause, often highly educated, under-challenged, and lonely. This is a generation who have learned that doing female things, and following the female biological imperatives, is "bad." And yes, these are real things. If you hear a voice shouting "social construct!" in your mind, you are already under a form of mind control. | Nov 01 12:57 |
| schestowitz | Humanity is the only species capable of denying its own existence. | Nov 01 12:57 |
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| schestowitz | It is ironic, and sad, that 3WF accuses women that refuse to accept its message as suffering from "internalized misogyny." That is, self-hate so deep they cannot see it. And yet it is 3WF members that hate their own femaleness. They take no pride in it. It disgusts them so much they must project that onto others. | Nov 01 12:57 |
| schestowitz | 3WF also collects men, such as a few "male feminists" whom I've had to block to protect them from my need to always be right. Why do boys follow a girls' cult? Partly it's biology. The men go where the women are. We will say and do a lot of stupid things for the remotest chance at sex. But a lot of men have also grown up in the same education system, learning from a young age that gender is a social construct, and Male = Bad, Female = | Nov 01 12:57 |
| schestowitz | Good. | Nov 01 12:57 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 01 12:57 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | There are other print-on-demand book companies | Nov 01 12:57 |
| scientes | then they need to band together and form a guild | Nov 01 12:58 |
| scientes | with exclusive titles | Nov 01 12:58 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Also | Nov 01 12:58 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Printing too many books is bad for the environment | Nov 01 12:58 |
| scientes | not really | Nov 01 12:58 |
| *ohama has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) | Nov 01 12:58 | |
| schestowitz | conclusion: | Nov 01 12:58 |
| schestowitz | (via http://hintjens.com/blog:114 ) | Nov 01 12:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why I've Quit Twitter - Hintjens.com | Nov 01 12:59 | |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 01 12:59 |
| schestowitz | It has become clear to me that Twitter is a lens that distorts. The economics in this case favor the wrong people: the psychopaths and their followers. It gives them space in which to grow, recruit, and market themselves. By using Twitter, I'm contributing to this. | Nov 01 12:59 |
| schestowitz | We know where the politics of extremism takes us. We don't need to go back hundreds of years. Just a few days, to bombs exploding in my home city. Psychopaths produced those bombs, recruited the mules who carried them, and sent them on their way. One more cult of hate, seeking to divide and conquer. | Nov 01 12:59 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I'm literally making an equivalence between the digital cults and Daesh. They lie at different points on a scale, yet it is one scale. Saying "all men" and "all white men" has the same intent and effect as saying "all Muslims." It divides, isolates, and creates space for the cult to grow. | Nov 01 12:59 |
| schestowitz | Never doubt the harm that psychopaths will inflict on others. It is simply a pragmatic calculation of benefits against risks and costs. Allow cults to grow without sanction, and they will become more aggressive and more destructive. | Nov 01 12:59 |
| scientes | books can be biodegradable, and pulp is not expensive | Nov 01 12:59 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 01 12:59 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/06/08/twitter-cancel-culture/ | Nov 01 12:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Social Control Media: Where โCancel Cultureโ Thrives | Techrights | Nov 01 12:59 | |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Look at how many forests are being chopped down to make paper. | Nov 01 12:59 |
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| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/06/08/goodbye-twitter/ | Nov 01 12:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Going Write-Only in Twitter (One Step Away From Deleting Twitter) | Techrights | Nov 01 12:59 | |
| schestowitz | [12:58] <vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx> Printing too many books is bad for the environment\ | Nov 01 12:59 |
| schestowitz | driving is a lot worse | Nov 01 12:59 |
| scientes | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx, you can make paper from bamboo forrests | Nov 01 12:59 |
| schestowitz | flying miles (pun intended) worse | Nov 01 12:59 |
| scientes | and no-body likes bamboo | Nov 01 13:00 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I like bamboo | Nov 01 13:00 |
| scientes | they already make socks from bamboo | Nov 01 13:00 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | That's cool | Nov 01 13:00 |
| schestowitz | poor pandas will run out of stock faster | Nov 01 13:00 |
| scientes | but I shouldn't argue with you, as you are not thinking | Nov 01 13:00 |
| schestowitz | they need about 40 pounds of bamboo >per day< | Nov 01 13:00 |
| schestowitz | [12:59] <vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx> Look at how many forests are being chopped down to make paper. | Nov 01 13:00 |
| schestowitz | This weekend's news: https://www.propublica.org/article/despite-what-the-logging-industry-says-cutting-down-trees-isnt-stopping-catastrophic-wildfires | Nov 01 13:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.propublica.org | Despite What the Logging Industry Says, Cutting Down Trees Isnโt Stopping Catastrophic Wildfires โ ProPublica | Nov 01 13:01 | |
| scientes | I need 40 pounds of hot-pockets >per day<, doesn't mean I get the same level of PR. | Nov 01 13:01 |
| schestowitz | shaving off the planet | Nov 01 13:01 |
| schestowitz | off the thing that makes oxygen.. because it's not like we need any anyway... | Nov 01 13:01 |
| scientes | that is the symptom | Nov 01 13:01 |
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| scientes | those houses they are building with those trees are worth negative money | Nov 01 13:02 |
| scientes | it will cost money to take them apart and revert to farm-land | Nov 01 13:02 |
| scientes | The housing bubble is Ireland is how they justify not feeding and housing the poor. | Nov 01 13:03 |
| scientes | but they need to sell better glasses, because the homeless in the cities are kinda hard to ignore | Nov 01 13:04 |
| scientes | and they have to hire thugs to keep them out of the public parks | Nov 01 13:04 |
| *scientes was in London for a single night, waiting for a flight | Nov 01 13:05 | |
| scientes | got to see Westminster Abbey and Buckingham Palace | Nov 01 13:05 |
| scientes | I should have taken a layover in Lisboa while I was there | Nov 01 13:05 |
| scientes | would have been less depressing than London | Nov 01 13:05 |
| schestowitz | Lisbon? | Nov 01 13:06 |
| scientes | its Lisboa in Portugese | Nov 01 13:06 |
| schestowitz | It has a homelessness problem too | Nov 01 13:06 |
| schestowitz | and poverty | Nov 01 13:06 |
| scientes | oh ok | Nov 01 13:06 |
| schestowitz | a friend of mine keeps telling me | Nov 01 13:06 |
| scientes | I was in a hurry to get out of Europe | Nov 01 13:06 |
| schestowitz | drugs also | Nov 01 13:06 |
| schestowitz | big drug issues | Nov 01 13:06 |
| schestowitz | it pisses him off a lot | Nov 01 13:06 |
| scientes | I wanted to spend as little time in Europe as possible | Nov 01 13:06 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | schestowitz: where's this tutorial about encrypted email on the Techrights front-page btw? I can't find it. | Nov 01 13:06 |
| schestowitz | he moved here decades ago, he's a retired chef now | Nov 01 13:06 |
| scientes | its like we were talking about about a year ago, how the drug problem shows there is a deep dissatisfaction with life | Nov 01 13:07 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/DNSCrypt_Guide.pdf | Nov 01 13:07 |
| schestowitz | front page as in http://techrights.org | Nov 01 13:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights | People's rights in the digital age | Plutocracy threatened by freedom, democracy, privacy & civil rights | Nov 01 13:07 | |
| schestowitz | scientes: yes, drugs are sometimes a symptom | Nov 01 13:07 |
| schestowitz | the gov likes to blame "drugs" | Nov 01 13:07 |
| schestowitz | "they did drugs, ended up homeless" | Nov 01 13:07 |
| schestowitz | usually, it's the opposite | Nov 01 13:07 |
| schestowitz | cause and effect | Nov 01 13:07 |
| scientes | they send all the meaningful jobs overseas, and then they give them drugs so they die faster | Nov 01 13:07 |
| schestowitz | they do drugs inc. alcohol (cheap and not illegal) because they're hopeless and without a home | Nov 01 13:08 |
| scientes | <schestowitz> usually, it's the opposite\ | Nov 01 13:08 |
| schestowitz | and then they develop severe health issues and the gov. lets them rot, then blames them for "killing themselves" by "their decisions" | Nov 01 13:08 |
| scientes | yes, but the politicians are too busy shaking down the dads that aren't allowed to life with their baby-momies for money | Nov 01 13:08 |
| schestowitz | to live? | Nov 01 13:09 |
| scientes | and throwing them in prison | Nov 01 13:09 |
| scientes | to live | Nov 01 13:09 |
| schestowitz | social control right there.. | Nov 01 13:09 |
| schestowitz | I know one GNU dev who had it done to him | Nov 01 13:09 |
| schestowitz | I won't name him here | Nov 01 13:09 |
| scientes | there was a scandel in Israel where people were paying bribes to escape the prison of Israel | Nov 01 13:09 |
| schestowitz | (he worked on encryption) | Nov 01 13:09 |
| scientes | at the airport | Nov 01 13:09 |
| schestowitz | israel is run by mafia now | Nov 01 13:10 |
| scientes | and they give you endless credit card credit | Nov 01 13:10 |
| scientes | to keep the system running | Nov 01 13:10 |
| schestowitz | what you might come to expect from any nations with supremacy of an army, us included, former ussr | Nov 01 13:10 |
| schestowitz | the thugs always get their way, honest people are run over | Nov 01 13:10 |
| scientes | except the Russians will stick together | Nov 01 13:11 |
| schestowitz | people then adapt to become equally aggresive just to get on with life or survive | Nov 01 13:11 |
| scientes | and it will collapse due to them | Nov 01 13:11 |
| scientes | as they don't have any money | Nov 01 13:11 |
| schestowitz | us militias, russian mafia, black gangs | Nov 01 13:11 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | You need to have secrecy to run a successful operation when dealing with thugs | Nov 01 13:12 |
| scientes | also the heredi jews | Nov 01 13:12 |
| schestowitz | then they act all surprised that desperate people with no means turn to crime | Nov 01 13:12 |
| schestowitz | and they blame the crimes for the state they're in | Nov 01 13:12 |
| scientes | there is already a war between the heredi jews and the state | Nov 01 13:12 |
| schestowitz | [12:00] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (็ฝไผ): #militaia #goldenDawnald #violence #trump #failedState https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/video-trump-supporters-tried-to-run-biden-bus-off-road-1084484/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/3503ba00-f092-4f0d-b190-96a885097cea] | Nov 01 13:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rollingstone.com | Video: Trump Supporters Tried to Run Biden Bus 'Off the Road' - Rolling Stone | Nov 01 13:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.site | Nov 01 13:12 | |
| schestowitz | 'Murica Drimm | Nov 01 13:13 |
| schestowitz | Colombia came to Columbia | Nov 01 13:13 |
| scientes | hmmm, I can't find the child support bribery scandel | Nov 01 13:14 |
| scientes | they probably buried it | Nov 01 13:14 |
| schestowitz | [13:12] <vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx> You need to have secrecy to run a successful operation when dealing with thugs | Nov 01 13:14 |
| schestowitz | assumuing they have not already infiltrated the PDs too | Nov 01 13:14 |
| schestowitz | and drove away perceived obstructions in those PDs | Nov 01 13:14 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | This applies to tech thugs as well | Nov 01 13:14 |
| schestowitz | like Trump expelled people with empathy from WH and then lots of other branches of gov. inc. scotus and usdoj | Nov 01 13:15 |
| schestowitz | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: yes, Microsofters in particular | Nov 01 13:15 |
| schestowitz | no real geek would apply for a job there | Nov 01 13:15 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | That's why I still send encrypted email for some things because they need to be kept secret. | Nov 01 13:15 |
| schestowitz | so you end up gates-worshiping, money-loving cultists all in one gang | Nov 01 13:15 |
| schestowitz | while their 'ringleader' flies a plane called "LOLITA EXPRESS" | Nov 01 13:15 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | allegedly* | Nov 01 13:16 |
| schestowitz | waiting for the footnote | Nov 01 13:16 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Don't want the trolls coming after you. Always say allegedly, if the evidence isn't in public domain. | Nov 01 13:16 |
| schestowitz | (hint: it's not alleged, it's verified to the extreme) | Nov 01 13:16 |
| schestowitz | the evidence is public domain | Nov 01 13:16 |
| schestowitz | and gates is not denying it | Nov 01 13:17 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Then it's alright | Nov 01 13:17 |
| schestowitz | the flight records were published | Nov 01 13:17 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/09/28/non-denying-and-false-denials/ | Nov 01 13:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Speaking Through Spokespeople is a Sign of Weakness, Such as Non-Denying and False Denials (or: Bill Gates Never Denied His Connections to MIT Through Jeffrey Epstein) | Techrights | Nov 01 13:17 | |
| schestowitz | this isn't about the flights | Nov 01 13:17 |
| schestowitz | but about more than those flights | Nov 01 13:17 |
| schestowitz | which they do not deny, either | Nov 01 13:17 |
| schestowitz | but it was thrown under the bus when covid started and gates became health 'visionary' | Nov 01 13:18 |
| schestowitz | (I'm not suggesting a causal correlation btw) | Nov 01 13:18 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/migueltcosta/status/1322888119507705856 | Nov 01 13:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@migueltcosta: Snippet 259: https://t.co/By6vOkXZbs โMicrosoft is actively colluding with the NSA. No software company has been quโฆ https://t.co/CSPTOGB49B | Nov 01 13:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights | Nov 01 13:25 | |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 01 13:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@migueltcosta: Snippet 259: https://t.co/By6vOkXZbs โMicrosoft is actively colluding with the NSA. No software company has been quโฆ https://t.co/CSPTOGB49B | Nov 01 13:25 | |
| schestowitz | Snippet 259: https://buff.ly/1hqHeHk | Nov 01 13:25 |
| schestowitz | โMicrosoft is actively colluding with the NSA. No software company has been quite as collaborative with the NSA as Microsoft has, e.g. in providing direct Skype access.โ | Nov 01 13:25 |
| schestowitz | Should we move away from Microsoftโs Windows Operative System? | Nov 01 13:25 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 01 13:25 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/lzsthw/status/1322867939020886016 | Nov 01 13:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@lzsthw: If you ever see a Microsoft developer evangelist getting on a morality high horse, just pass them this: https://t.co/MsgjT57xei | Nov 01 13:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 500 @ https://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA ) | Nov 01 13:26 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/danehrlich11/status/1322871178952888320 | Nov 01 13:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@danehrlich11: @SCNRbot @motherboard Read this. Everything else I've said is worthless. Whoever these persons / lizardbots are, thโฆ https://t.co/0uENHbY8VK | Nov 01 13:26 | |
| schestowitz | "Read this. Everything else I've said is worthless. Whoever these persons / lizardbots are, they did a ton of the research for us: http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php" | Nov 01 13:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Main Page - Techrights | Nov 01 13:26 | |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 01 13:27 |
| schestowitz | I find it very interesting that once a company gets to a certain size theyโre willing to do a lot of questionable things to make more money. | Nov 01 13:27 |
| schestowitz | Youโd think having a bazillion dollars already would decrease the profit incentive, but nope. | Nov 01 13:27 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 01 13:27 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 01 13:27 |
| schestowitz | The fact that you're "surprised" by it is part of the reason why I'm now against shaming other people when they try to make money. | Nov 01 13:27 |
| schestowitz | If people can't actively acknowledge the inherent negative impact of a giant company's behavior then it's wrong to shame individuals for doing it. | Nov 01 13:27 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 01 13:27 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | You should post on r/Privacy | Nov 01 13:31 |
| schestowitz | reddit? | Nov 01 13:31 |
| schestowitz | no way | Nov 01 13:31 |
| schestowitz | hate them | Nov 01 13:31 |
| schestowitz | last week: https://karl-voit.at/2020/10/23/avoid-web-forums/ | Nov 01 13:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-karl-voit.at | Don't Contribute Anything Relevant in Web Forums Like Reddit | Nov 01 13:32 | |
| schestowitz | 5 years ago: http://techrights.org/2015/05/28/reddit-censorship/ | Nov 01 13:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Censorship on Reddit Has Gotten (Condรฉ) Nasty and Silent, Even Actively Silenced | Techrights | Nov 01 13:32 | |
| schestowitz | that was before people used the term ghostban or shadowban | Nov 01 13:32 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Places like Reddit are still important to raise awareness | Nov 01 13:32 |
| schestowitz | because twitter started doing lots of that (did it to me like 50 times in 2 years) | Nov 01 13:32 |
| schestowitz | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: they need to perish | Nov 01 13:33 |
| schestowitz | they're compromised | Nov 01 13:33 |
| schestowitz | participating in them reinvigorates their power | Nov 01 13:33 |
| schestowitz | they still misuse Swartz and his good name | Nov 01 13:33 |
| schestowitz | even though he ended up disliking them geatly | Nov 01 13:33 |
| schestowitz | *greatly | Nov 01 13:33 |
| schestowitz | Conde Nasty ousted Linus | Nov 01 13:33 |
| schestowitz | and they paint themselves "geek" in Reddit | Nov 01 13:34 |
| schestowitz | now that Wired is dead | Nov 01 13:34 |
| scientes | reddit is dead too | Nov 01 13:34 |
| schestowitz | and Ars is dead also, their staff turned out to be monsters | Nov 01 13:34 |
| scientes | has been for a long time | Nov 01 13:34 |
| schestowitz | hope so | Nov 01 13:34 |
| schestowitz | *that this is true | Nov 01 13:34 |
| scientes | they droped the free software license | Nov 01 13:34 |
| scientes | went propritary | Nov 01 13:34 |
| schestowitz | yes | Nov 01 13:34 |
| schestowitz | that's when I dropped my rss feed for /r/linux | Nov 01 13:35 |
| scientes | at least Aaron Swartz created MarkDown with it | Nov 01 13:35 |
| scientes | which was a massive success | Nov 01 13:35 |
| schestowitz | later I saw they added infinite scroll and all | Nov 01 13:35 |
| schestowitz | so even commentless crap ends up with lots of cruft below | Nov 01 13:35 |
| scientes | I had a japaneese userscript that did infinite scroll much earlier | Nov 01 13:35 |
| schestowitz | and for one little quip or link you need to get megabytes of crap | Nov 01 13:35 |
| schestowitz | reddit became a clickbaiting honeypot | Nov 01 13:36 |
| schestowitz | they try to addict people, twitter tries the same but wings up pissing off many | Nov 01 13:36 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | There are still a lot of people that can be reached via Reddit. It's better to funnel those people to the real news than let them be in the dark. | Nov 01 13:36 |
| schestowitz | dragging them into meaningless fights to sell ads | Nov 01 13:36 |
| scientes | twitter only works on people that are already broken however | Nov 01 13:36 |
| scientes | IMHO | Nov 01 13:36 |
| schestowitz | I analysed it here: http://techrights.org/2020/07/24/twitter-annotated/ | Nov 01 13:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | How Social Control Media Works: The Case of Twitter, Visualised and Annotated | Techrights | Nov 01 13:36 | |
| schestowitz | it wasn't always this bad | Nov 01 13:37 |
| scientes | at least reddit had good circlejerk memes | Nov 01 13:37 |
| schestowitz | even their "mobile" or "legacy" UI is now littered with ads | Nov 01 13:37 |
| schestowitz | and they all have images in them, which ACTUAL content lacks | Nov 01 13:37 |
| schestowitz | even in empty pages they still have ads with banners | Nov 01 13:37 |
| schestowitz | they added this a few months back | Nov 01 13:37 |
| schestowitz | to the legacy/minimalist (no JS) UI | Nov 01 13:38 |
| scientes | twitter, like all the other "platforms" are based on lying to people about how the internet works | Nov 01 13:38 |
| scientes | and now the internet actually works that way because of CDNs | Nov 01 13:38 |
| schestowitz | twitter is obsolete | Nov 01 13:38 |
| schestowitz | let's see if their stock recovered | Nov 01 13:38 |
| scientes | like Facebook re-purposing Wikipedia | Nov 01 13:38 |
| schestowitz | 41.36 USD โ11.07 (21.11%) | Nov 01 13:38 |
| scientes | just to keep people inside their "platform" | Nov 01 13:38 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Regardless of how we might feel about reddit, a big chunk of newcomers get introduced to GNU/Linux through Reddit. It's important to make sure those people see the important messages. | Nov 01 13:38 |
| scientes | I mean seriously, the ability to browse Wikipedia from Facebook should be obvious to people | Nov 01 13:39 |
| scientes | if they only read the license they would figure it out | Nov 01 13:39 |
| scientes | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx, that's not reddit, that the truth leaking out because reddit needs content | Nov 01 13:39 |
| schestowitz | the shares were at US$64 6 years ago | Nov 01 13:39 |
| scientes | and its why they push people more to TikTok/Twitter and other short-form content that can be controlled better | Nov 01 13:40 |
| scientes | even YouTube has gotten into the short-form content band-wagon | Nov 01 13:40 |
| schestowitz | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: maybe the type of users we neither want or need | Nov 01 13:40 |
| scientes | the point is that you need far less content | Nov 01 13:40 |
| schestowitz | the ones who call freesw "apps" | Nov 01 13:40 |
| schestowitz | and ask for "spotify" and snaps and stuff | Nov 01 13:40 |
| scientes | so the content can be might higher percentage of propoganda | Nov 01 13:40 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | > maybe the type of users we neither want or need | Nov 01 13:40 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | That's not going to help anybody | Nov 01 13:40 |
| schestowitz | I know what you mean | Nov 01 13:41 |
| scientes | I use markdown almost exclusively for my stuff | Nov 01 13:41 |
| schestowitz | but... | Nov 01 13:41 |
| schestowitz | I used to think the way you do | Nov 01 13:41 |
| schestowitz | but some people become trouble because their entry point is the wrong philosophy | Nov 01 13:41 |
| schestowitz | they want a "cheap mac" | Nov 01 13:41 |
| scientes | schestowitz is right---the user's have to engage in free software at some point | Nov 01 13:41 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | That's fine. We can always kick the trolls | Nov 01 13:42 |
| schestowitz | and then they try to turn it into just another transport layer for pure crap | Nov 01 13:42 |
| schestowitz | with kernel being linux | Nov 01 13:42 |
| schestowitz | they can get a chromebook | Nov 01 13:42 |
| schestowitz | or android | Nov 01 13:42 |
| scientes | I remember when I posted about a suspend bug in my hard drive, and I got a response from a kernel developer in a few days | Nov 01 13:42 |
| schestowitz | when they're ready they can learn what debian repos are | Nov 01 13:42 |
| scientes | with a patch | Nov 01 13:42 |
| scientes | and then the next release it was fixed | Nov 01 13:42 |
| scientes | it blew my fucking mind | Nov 01 13:42 |
| schestowitz | and now ask, "HEY GIVE US THE SHINIES" (Microsoft PPAs for Edge) | Nov 01 13:43 |
| schestowitz | *not | Nov 01 13:43 |
| schestowitz | aka Windows Update for "Linux" | Nov 01 13:43 |
| scientes | you suddenly realize that when humans work together they can accomplish amazing things | Nov 01 13:43 |
| schestowitz | remember this: | Nov 01 13:43 |
| scientes | and that the reason that windows sucks is that you pay money for it | Nov 01 13:43 |
| schestowitz | we accomplish little or nothing if GNU/Linux becomes Android | Nov 01 13:44 |
| schestowitz | we need to replace Android with something like Maemo (Debian) | Nov 01 13:44 |
| schestowitz | then we're on the right route | Nov 01 13:44 |
| MinceR | try Maemo Leste | Nov 01 13:44 |
| schestowitz | otherwise you're as useless a "tech" as Apple fans | Nov 01 13:44 |
| scientes | Android is certainly the biggest threat right now | Nov 01 13:44 |
| scientes | web apps too, but lesser | Nov 01 13:44 |
| schestowitz | who view their existence on this planet as fulfilling the goal of "helping apple beat Microsoft" | Nov 01 13:44 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | No mobile OS will succeed in replacing Android unless you can drop-in Android apps | Nov 01 13:45 |
| schestowitz | (or IBM vs Microsoft) | Nov 01 13:45 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | They have too big a hold on the market | Nov 01 13:45 |
| schestowitz | Alien had that | Nov 01 13:45 |
| schestowitz | then mole Elop stepped in | Nov 01 13:45 |
| scientes | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx, no, that is a ruinous compromise | Nov 01 13:45 |
| schestowitz | Alien Dalvik | Nov 01 13:45 |
| scientes | propritary software is the problem, not the solution | Nov 01 13:45 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft killed that, calling it "burning platform" | Nov 01 13:45 |
| schestowitz | Nokia was about to run under MeeGo or similar Android apps | Nov 01 13:46 |
| schestowitz | the tech was shaping up | Nov 01 13:46 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | It's not proprietary software | Nov 01 13:46 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | It's things like Banking apps | Nov 01 13:46 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Medical apps | Nov 01 13:46 |
| schestowitz | Also see http://techrights.org/2015/10/24/robovm-takeover-and-microsoft-fork/ | Nov 01 13:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | RoboVM Takeover of Interest to Microsoft and Its Embrace, Extend, Extinguish (E.E.E.) Strategy Against Android, Which It Says It Wants to Fork | Techrights | Nov 01 13:46 | |
| schestowitz | he became CEO of GitHub (Microsoft Trojan horse) | Nov 01 13:46 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Governments rely on Android | Nov 01 13:46 |
| scientes | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx, and google is constantly selling them anti-features | Nov 01 13:46 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | That's the level of entrenchment you have to deal with | Nov 01 13:47 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/10/11/nat-friedman-proprietary-software/ | Nov 01 13:47 |
| schestowitz | they totally attack Android | Nov 01 13:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | GitHubโs Nat Friedman Defended Proprietary Software at Novell, So Why Not at Microsoft? | Techrights | Nov 01 13:47 | |
| schestowitz | the trade press never mentions it because "no money in ot" | Nov 01 13:47 |
| schestowitz | *it | Nov 01 13:47 |
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| scientes | schestowitz, oh wow that is a great video | Nov 01 13:47 |
| scientes | explains why they are sponsoring zig-lang | Nov 01 13:48 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Projects like this are what's going to help: https://grapheneos.org/ | Nov 01 13:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-grapheneos.org | GrapheneOS | Nov 01 13:48 | |
| schestowitz | phoronix mentions it sometimes | Nov 01 13:48 |
| scientes | that is also why they build vscode | Nov 01 13:49 |
| scientes | DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, | Nov 01 13:49 |
| schestowitz | yeah, those reddit types might become "consumers" | Nov 01 13:49 |
| schestowitz | MSVS | Nov 01 13:49 |
| schestowitz | but open | Nov 01 13:49 |
| schestowitz | it's not | Nov 01 13:49 |
| schestowitz | they get a blob from MSFT | Nov 01 13:49 |
| scientes | like how google is adament about keeping YouTube downloaders off of Google Play store | Nov 01 13:50 |
| schestowitz | and wire their machine to Microsoft/NSA | Nov 01 13:50 |
| schestowitz | the blob contains surveillance | Nov 01 13:50 |
| scientes | but they let youtube-dl go because you have to be in the github world to know it exists | Nov 01 13:50 |
| scientes | schestowitz, and all those tactics you mentioned about twitter are coming to github soon | Nov 01 13:50 |
| schestowitz | I heard github is declining | Nov 01 13:50 |
| schestowitz | but that was years ago | Nov 01 13:50 |
| schestowitz | maybe not anymore | Nov 01 13:50 |
| scientes | llvm moved to github | Nov 01 13:50 |
| schestowitz | it was sold for its inertia | Nov 01 13:50 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | GitHub is still the dominant dev platform | Nov 01 13:51 |
| schestowitz | if that inertia stops, then money down the drain | Nov 01 13:51 |
| schestowitz | they uses the "arctic vauly" fake news (seeded by a South African in Bloomberg) to distract from the ICE-induced brain drain at GH | Nov 01 13:51 |
| scientes | schestowitz, Nat Friedman is talking right out of the Haloween documents | Nov 01 13:51 |
| schestowitz | Ashley Vance (colleague of Dana Bass) | Nov 01 13:51 |
| schestowitz | they're really worrying about GH rebellion | Nov 01 13:52 |
| scientes | oh wow, you said that in the article... | Nov 01 13:52 |
| schestowitz | like SouthForge after GIMP-gate | Nov 01 13:52 |
| schestowitz | Source | Nov 01 13:52 |
| scientes | Bill Gates steal's others work in his "foundation" too | Nov 01 13:52 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/06/15/confessions-of-scott-guthrie/ | Nov 01 13:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Story About Microsoftโs Plan for GitHub Says a Lot About the Motivations and the Lies Told to Us for Over Half a Decade | Techrights | Nov 01 13:52 | |
| scientes | like he talks about Jevon's paradox, but makes it his own | Nov 01 13:52 |
| schestowitz | scientes: bill solves all the world's problems | Nov 01 13:52 |
| schestowitz | by taking credit for others' work | Nov 01 13:52 |
| scientes | ^^^^ | Nov 01 13:52 |
| schestowitz | then bribing the media to spam his name | Nov 01 13:53 |
| scientes | that is all he knows how to do | Nov 01 13:53 |
| schestowitz | pneumonia, Parkinson's, polio... | Nov 01 13:53 |
| scientes | every other p word | Nov 01 13:53 |
| schestowitz | Gates solves them all in his spare time... in his home lab | Nov 01 13:53 |
| schestowitz | with his mom :-) | Nov 01 13:53 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I remember you posted something about MSFT "Sleazy business practices....brilliant marketing." | Nov 01 13:53 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Something like that | Nov 01 13:53 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Still their MO | Nov 01 13:53 |
| schestowitz | yes | Nov 01 13:53 |
| schestowitz | reddit amplifies it | Nov 01 13:53 |
| schestowitz | and deleted MS critics | Nov 01 13:54 |
| schestowitz | then does AMAs with billness | Nov 01 13:54 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | There's plenty of anti-MS stuff on Reddit | Nov 01 13:54 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/06/18/rusty-censorship/ | Nov 01 13:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Beware Mozilla and Rust, Theyโre Not Friends of Free Software or Even of Free Speech | Techrights | Nov 01 13:54 | |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/08/31/linux-should-reject-github/ | Nov 01 13:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Linux Kernel Needs to Reject Rust for the Same Reason Linus Torvalds Rejects GitHub (Where Rust is Hosted and Developed) | Techrights | Nov 01 13:54 | |
| schestowitz | this one has all the refs for reddit censorship of ms critics in it | Nov 01 13:54 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I'm not defending Reddit but we need to pull all the people that we can into the right stream of news | Nov 01 13:54 |
| schestowitz | inc. http://techrights.org/2020/06/18/rusty-censorship/ | Nov 01 13:54 |
| scientes | nah, that is over the top | Nov 01 13:54 |
| scientes | rust has its problems, but its engineers are not sabateurs | Nov 01 13:54 |
| schestowitz | reddit is already compromised | Nov 01 13:55 |
| scientes | they were developing a cool idea they had | Nov 01 13:55 |
| schestowitz | make something better | Nov 01 13:55 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | We are making something better. | Nov 01 13:55 |
| schestowitz | they have done that in reddit since 2009 at least | Nov 01 13:55 |
| schestowitz | when they did shill pieces for IE9 | Nov 01 13:55 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | But we still need to pull traffic from Reddit | Nov 01 13:55 |
| schestowitz | for MONEY! | Nov 01 13:55 |
| scientes | rust did remove f128 for absolutely no reason however | Nov 01 13:55 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2010/09/28/reddit-sponsored-by-microsoft/ | Nov 01 13:55 |
| schestowitz | 2010 | Nov 01 13:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Reddit Took Money From Microsoft to Help the IE9/Vista 7 Marketing Blitz, Which Failed | Techrights | Nov 01 13:55 | |
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| schestowitz | this is a patch proposal http://techrights.org/2020/06/21/censorship-of-microsoft-critics/ | Nov 01 13:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Detecting and Undoing/Reversing Censorship of Microsoft Critics at Reddit | Techrights | Nov 01 13:56 | |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I did some more research on Rust and I found out that the community is compromised. I'm sticking with GNU. | Nov 01 13:56 |
| schestowitz | meme: http://techrights.org/2020/06/21/censorship-on-reddit/ | Nov 01 13:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Humour] Things You Canโt Say on Reddit | Techrights | Nov 01 13:56 | |
| schestowitz | conde nast: http://techrights.org/2020/08/16/microsoft-peter-convicted/ | Nov 01 13:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Peter Convicted for Pedophilia (and Still Defending Pedophilia) | Techrights | Nov 01 13:56 | |
| schestowitz | 2009, when they propped up Microsoft Mono and suppressed our site http://techrights.org/2009/05/27/reddit-novell-employees/ | Nov 01 13:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Reddit Accommodated by Mono Boosters, Including Novell Employees | Techrights | Nov 01 13:57 | |
| schestowitz | people who now work directly for Microsoft | Nov 01 13:57 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | We need to be pragmatic. The information that needs outing needs to get exposure everywhere. If we yell in a cellar nothing is going to change. | Nov 01 13:57 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | A link or two every now and then (strategically done on various web locations) is going to be how we build channels to our outlets. | Nov 01 13:58 |
| schestowitz | I'm all for it | Nov 01 13:59 |
| schestowitz | but.. | Nov 01 13:59 |
| schestowitz | not at the expense of producing articles | Nov 01 13:59 |
| schestowitz | I've long stuck by that principle | Nov 01 13:59 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | You don't need to stop writing anything | Nov 01 14:00 |
| schestowitz | not wasting time on social control 'media' | Nov 01 14:00 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | People are stepping in to help | Nov 01 14:00 |
| schestowitz | the sheft life of these things is nill | Nov 01 14:00 |
| schestowitz | as tweets or reddit posts that are merely a link have no journalistic value | Nov 01 14:00 |
| schestowitz | *shelf | Nov 01 14:00 |
| schestowitz | and few bother actually studying topics, they act like drama queens by link-dropping | Nov 01 14:00 |
| schestowitz | and call that "media" | Nov 01 14:00 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Techrights should keep doing techrights. You can let others handle the linking. | Nov 01 14:00 |
| schestowitz | "we're the media now" | Nov 01 14:00 |
| schestowitz | "yay! Drop some brietbart link. you 'activist'..." | Nov 01 14:01 |
| scientes | schestowitz, yep | Nov 01 14:01 |
| scientes | zero data, echo chamber | Nov 01 14:01 |
| scientes | lots of biting the hand that feeds you | Nov 01 14:01 |
| schestowitz | twitter has "decks" or "cards" | Nov 01 14:01 |
| schestowitz | so people don't need to click | Nov 01 14:01 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | That's why consolidation of effort is important. We need people to not fragment away into their own little bubble. There needs to be a push from publishing, tech development, and infrastructure. | Nov 01 14:01 |
| schestowitz | they read a headline, see picture, get angry, "engage" in twitter | Nov 01 14:01 |
| schestowitz | no blog comments, just a censored "communication" feedback loop with "trending" and hashtags | Nov 01 14:02 |
| schestowitz | to bring in more people to get angry | Nov 01 14:02 |
| schestowitz | and later the "tweet" turns out to be all wrong | Nov 01 14:02 |
| schestowitz | sometimes distorting the message of what it linked to (if anything) | Nov 01 14:02 |
| schestowitz | like many people who link to techrights, saying gates is a pedo | Nov 01 14:02 |
| schestowitz | or behind coviv | Nov 01 14:03 |
| schestowitz | covid* | Nov 01 14:03 |
| schestowitz | though we never ever argued that | Nov 01 14:03 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | You will always have trolls to deal with. That's never going to go away | Nov 01 14:03 |
| schestowitz | usually they turn out to be the "Q" types, which Twitter increasingly shadowbans at every level, so they can only see one another | Nov 01 14:03 |
| schestowitz | I have two posts to draft before I start work at 5:30 | Nov 01 14:04 |
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| schestowitz | bbiab | Nov 01 14:04 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | (y) | Nov 01 14:04 |
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| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I'm just skimming the Guile info manual atm | Nov 01 14:04 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/BrianHilson/status/1322868937537835008 | Nov 01 14:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrianHilson: @lzsthw I find it very interesting that once a company gets to a certain size theyโre willing to do a lot of questiโฆ https://t.co/2A2F5nxIzp | Nov 01 14:04 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/lzsthw/status/1322870140745240576 | Nov 01 14:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@lzsthw: @BrianHilson The fact that you're "surprised" by it is part of the reason why I'm now against shaming other peopleโฆ https://t.co/NlZ4EGoZtv | Nov 01 14:04 | |
| schestowitz | Frame "tweets", then show banners with twitter in US CONGRESS!! | Nov 01 14:04 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Nov 01 14:04 |
| schestowitz | and trump "tweets" as WH "communication" | Nov 01 14:04 |
| schestowitz | because who needs a Web site anyway... | Nov 01 14:05 |
| schestowitz | Donald Dorsey 2020 | Nov 01 14:05 |
| schestowitz | Endorsey by @Jack | Nov 01 14:05 |
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| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/08/14/control-but-no-accountability/ | Nov 01 14:14 |
| schestowitz | for next article | Nov 01 14:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | High-Level Criminals Associate Privacy With Crime Because They Want Privacy Only for Themselves (Control But No Accountability) | Techrights | Nov 01 14:14 | |
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| schestowitz | will quote | Nov 01 14:20 |
| schestowitz | [12:46] <scientes> vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx, he just says "everyone in this room is wearing clothes, so you all have something to hide" | Nov 01 14:20 |
| schestowitz | is there a direct source for it with /verbatim/ quote? | Nov 01 14:20 |
| schestowitz | will go with http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/mannequin-1437072.jpg | Nov 01 14:20 |
| schestowitz | it's 3 paragraphs | Nov 01 14:22 |
| schestowitz | anyone wanna help proofread? | Nov 01 14:22 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/11/01/nanny-monopolies/ | Nov 01 14:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Monopolies Cannot and Will Not Respect Your Privacy (Itโs an Anathema to Them) | Techrights | Nov 01 14:27 | |
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| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Sure | Nov 01 14:48 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Where's the draft? | Nov 01 14:48 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Nvm. | Nov 01 14:51 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Monopolies Cannot and Will Not Respect Your Privacy (Itโs an Anathema to Them) โข ๐๐ ด๐ ฒ๐ ท๐๐ ธ๐ ถ๐ ท๐๐ โ http://techrights.org/2020/11/01/nanny-monopolies/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/5500789f-e184-451b-96da-314747c11a8f] | Nov 01 14:53 | |
| schestowitz | too late, but I can still edit further, I'm halfway through the next article now | Nov 01 14:53 |
| schestowitz | just backed up my wife's laptop while on munch break | Nov 01 14:53 |
| schestowitz | *lunch | Nov 01 14:53 |
| schestowitz | no freudian slip there | Nov 01 14:53 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | lol | Nov 01 14:54 |
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| MinceR | (cat) (no audio) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/09/18/0f90e05dc8f9e75d.mp4 | Nov 01 15:17 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Aww | Nov 01 15:24 |
| schestowitz | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: can you check through http://techrights.org/2020/11/01/human-rights-and-tech-rights/ | Nov 01 15:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Ashtrays of Human Rights and Tech Rights | Techrights | Nov 01 15:29 | |
| schestowitz | published 10 secs ago | Nov 01 15:29 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Sure | Nov 01 15:29 |
| schestowitz | before I link in social control media (which let's face it, doesn't take long unless I start to "engage" beyond "write-only") | Nov 01 15:31 |
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| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | schestowitz: looks good. | Nov 01 15:36 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I'd be careful with the linking. Linking is fine, just don't get too involved on the platforms themselves. | Nov 01 15:37 |
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| schestowitz | yes, it can be addictive | Nov 01 15:38 |
| schestowitz | like waiting for someone to respond to something you replied with | Nov 01 15:38 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/20090637 | Nov 01 15:38 |
| schestowitz | you can lose hours without realising it | Nov 01 15:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4872880) | Nov 01 15:38 | |
| schestowitz | whilst those companies 'harvest' your 'engagement' | Nov 01 15:39 |
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| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | MinceR: lol | Nov 01 15:39 |
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| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | The way I use Reddit is to make a post, get a discussion going, and then let that roll over between the readers. | Nov 01 15:39 |
| schestowitz | it's not worth it | Nov 01 15:40 |
| schestowitz | and rarely you get much of value in it | Nov 01 15:40 |
| schestowitz | due to low s/n ratio | Nov 01 15:40 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I got plenty of value out of it | Nov 01 15:40 |
| schestowitz | so better focus on the accurate things than random trolls with "flairs" | Nov 01 15:40 |
| schestowitz | maybe some subs are OK | Nov 01 15:40 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I don't pay attention to any of that | Nov 01 15:40 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | The main goal is to get a few comments rolling. Then the post gets to the top of the thread. Then you just let it grow on its own. | Nov 01 15:41 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Key is to lay off ASAP | Nov 01 15:41 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | The nice thing about trolls on Reddit is that they're actually helping you. Any activity pushes your content up further. | Nov 01 15:42 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | End goal being you want information to be seen. | Nov 01 15:42 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I had plenty of trolls on my last post. But it went viral on the sub I posted it. Hundreds of upvotes in hours. One of the top comments was a troll (that account is now deleted). | Nov 01 15:44 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | And I noticed posting infrequently work better on Reddit. So now I just save that outlet for my big announcements. | Nov 01 15:45 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | works* | Nov 01 15:45 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I tried high-volume at the start and it went well but my low-volume strategy is working a lot better. | Nov 01 15:46 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | That way you also don't get accused for sub-spamming | Nov 01 15:46 |
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| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/11/01/11-million-people-after-patient-zero/ | Nov 01 16:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Contact-Tracing Ploy (Mission Creep/Mass Surveillance) is Only Effective When Dealing With Patient Zero and Few Others, Not Millions | Techrights | Nov 01 16:06 | |
| schestowitz | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: some "privacy" groups in Reddit | Nov 01 16:06 |
| schestowitz | I never "got" it | Nov 01 16:06 |
| schestowitz | it's like going to a hunting expedition and then having vegetarian meals at the pub with the group | Nov 01 16:07 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | It is a pretty big dumpster fire rn | Nov 01 16:07 |
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| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | We we need to salvage what we can out of it | Nov 01 16:08 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | But we* | Nov 01 16:08 |
| schestowitz | no, it's hopeless | Nov 01 16:09 |
| schestowitz | when things go wrong, it's over | Nov 01 16:09 |
| schestowitz | so said pieter hintjens, as zoobab can attest to | Nov 01 16:09 |
| schestowitz | good luck saving LF or OIN | Nov 01 16:09 |
| schestowitz | you cannot because the people who resist you are already inside | Nov 01 16:09 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | We're not trying to save Reddit | Nov 01 16:09 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | That's not what I'm trying to say | Nov 01 16:10 |
| schestowitz | it feeds the beast :-) | Nov 01 16:10 |
| schestowitz | we need to make alternatives to it | Nov 01 16:10 |
| schestowitz | while recognising it went wrong in a lot of ways | Nov 01 16:10 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | That's what we are doing. But people need to hear about the alternatives. | Nov 01 16:10 |
| schestowitz | proprietary, censorship, corporate agenda pushed for cash.. | Nov 01 16:10 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I've completely stopped posting original content on Reddit for over a month now | Nov 01 16:11 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Because I too agree we should stop "feeding the best" | Nov 01 16:11 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | beast* | Nov 01 16:11 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | But we can still leverage it to our advantage | Nov 01 16:11 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | To funnel viewers to us | Nov 01 16:11 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | In the same way people share our links on social media | Nov 01 16:11 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | All my future content is going to be distributed via IPFS links | Nov 01 16:12 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | But I'm still going to use Reddit to announce stuff | Nov 01 16:12 |
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| schestowitz | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: just don't spend extra time on it | Nov 01 16:14 |
| schestowitz | to them, your time is the product | Nov 01 16:14 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I don't spend any time on Reddit | Nov 01 16:14 |
| schestowitz | and their commodity to "sell" | Nov 01 16:14 |
| schestowitz | and it spreads non-linearly | Nov 01 16:14 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | But thank you for the reminder | Nov 01 16:14 |
| schestowitz | as when you post something you cause several others to "engage" | Nov 01 16:14 |
| schestowitz | you can kill the beast by no longer engaging | Nov 01 16:15 |
| schestowitz | not many people respond to me in Twitter anymore, as my profile makes it clear it's a shadow/ghost account | Nov 01 16:15 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Right now all I've got left to is to get an RSS service rolling. | Nov 01 16:15 |
| schestowitz | and that I'll respond in other platforms, not Twitter | Nov 01 16:15 |
| schestowitz | the only thing I'd even RT in Twitter is stuff that links to my own sites | Nov 01 16:15 |
| schestowitz | because hey, this beast then feeds not itself but the target platforms | Nov 01 16:16 |
| schestowitz | I almost always RT everything that links to my site | Nov 01 16:16 |
| schestowitz | and strictly that | Nov 01 16:16 |
| schestowitz | a big FU... you exist only to send "juice" to NON-Twitter sites | Nov 01 16:17 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | > because hey, this beast then feeds not itself but the target platforms | Nov 01 16:17 |
| schestowitz | FB goes out of its way to demote posts with links to external URLs | Nov 01 16:17 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | That's pretty much how I plan to use Reddit now | Nov 01 16:17 |
| schestowitz | and reward people who upload "intel'" to FB | Nov 01 16:17 |
| schestowitz | Photos, videos, original "posts" (traffic, ads) | Nov 01 16:17 |
| schestowitz | they made a project that sounds like IA just to keep people ON FB | Nov 01 16:17 |
| schestowitz | and never off it | Nov 01 16:17 |
| schestowitz | archive they called it | Nov 01 16:18 |
| schestowitz | not sure if that worked out | Nov 01 16:18 |
| schestowitz | or suggesting making ISP-like service in poor countries with zero-rating | Nov 01 16:18 |
| schestowitz | only FB | Nov 01 16:18 |
| schestowitz | FCWWW | Nov 01 16:18 |
| schestowitz | Reddit is the same | Nov 01 16:18 |
| schestowitz | Twitter is increasingly the same | Nov 01 16:18 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I've been to countries where FB is free in ISP plans | Nov 01 16:18 |
| schestowitz | anything to keep "screen time" high | Nov 01 16:18 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | They use it to mine data | Nov 01 16:19 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I don't see any other reasonable explanation | Nov 01 16:19 |
| schestowitz | "trending", "infinite scrolling" inflammatory twitler tweets | Nov 01 16:19 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | So even if they don't have "data" to browse the web, they still have "data" for FB. | Nov 01 16:19 |
| schestowitz | that should be illegal | Nov 01 16:19 |
| schestowitz | but FB hired many politicians | Nov 01 16:19 |
| schestowitz | inc. our former deputy PM | Nov 01 16:19 |
| schestowitz | Clegg | Nov 01 16:19 |
| schestowitz | https://www.politico.eu/article/how-nick-clegg-is-trying-to-fix-facebooks-global-image/ | Nov 01 16:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.politico.eu | How Nick Clegg is trying to fix Facebookโs global image โ POLITICO | Nov 01 16:22 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/20/nick-clegg-is-on-the-wrong-side-of-history-at-facebook | Nov 01 16:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Nick Clegg is on the wrong side of history at Facebook | John Naughton | Opinion | The Guardian | Nov 01 16:22 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.cnbc.com/video/2020/09/03/facebooks-nick-clegg-calling-facebooks-new-rules-not-ambitious-or-piecemeal-is-unfair.html | Nov 01 16:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnbc.com | Facebook's Nick Clegg: Calling Facebook's new rules not ambitious or piecemeal is unfair | Nov 01 16:22 | |
| schestowitz | wtf is this? | Nov 01 16:23 |
| schestowitz | Politicians lying for corporations directly as well | Nov 01 16:23 |
| schestowitz | this is planet Earth eating itself | Nov 01 16:23 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Let's hope Clegg ruins Facebook like he did to his own party. lol | Nov 01 16:28 |
| schestowitz | party pooper(tm) | Nov 01 16:31 |
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| schestowitz | https://www.troyhunt.com/humans-are-bad-at-urls-and-fonts-dont-matter | Nov 01 16:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.troyhunt.com | Troy Hunt: Humans are Bad at URLs and Fonts Donโt Matter | Nov 01 16:36 | |
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| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I misread URLs all the time | Nov 01 16:46 |
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| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I misread everything all the time | Nov 01 16:47 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | That's why `diff(1)` is my crutch. | Nov 01 16:47 |
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| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | For example, I have access to a lot of host machines that aren't mine. I always ask people for the key fingerprint before I use SSH. That way I can just run the fingerprint against the one I see before I log in. | Nov 01 16:49 |
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| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I'd be hopeless without `diff(1)` | Nov 01 16:49 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | You can use the `--unified` option to get the same output you get form `git-diff(1)` | Nov 01 16:49 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | You can actually use `git-diff(1)` on any file on disk. | Nov 01 16:51 |
| schestowitz | "I was intrigued that the mountain would come to Muhammad. But it was not until well after Schmidt and his companions had been and gone that I came to understand who had really visited me." https://wikileaks.org/google-is-not-what-it-seems/ | Nov 01 16:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wikileaks.org | Julian Assange - Google Is Not What It Seems | Nov 01 16:53 | |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/20090459 | Nov 01 17:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4869325) | Nov 01 17:12 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: My Freedom feeler tingles. | Nov 01 17:15 |
| MinceR | sounds like it's miscalibrated | Nov 01 17:16 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: You don't believe in the Land of the Free? | Nov 01 17:16 |
| MinceR | i don't believe that uhmerica is the land of the free | Nov 01 17:17 |
| thddx | haha. a redefined concept of "freedom" perhaps. most in murica just don't understand/see their chains | Nov 01 17:25 |
| thddx | it's just doublespeak messaging that encourages freedom thumpers to vote against their own freedoms | Nov 01 17:26 |
| thddx | it's been redefined to mean "no handouts" and "don't interrupt my dopamine consumption patterns" | Nov 01 17:28 |
| thddx | the very patterns that enslave the majority of the populace | Nov 01 17:29 |
| MinceR | there's only one thing they got right and that's the right to bear arms | Nov 01 17:30 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Do they get the right to bear claws too? | Nov 01 17:42 |
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| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Trying out kirc | Nov 01 17:45 |
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| MinceR | i don't think those are forbidden anywhere | Nov 01 18:35 |
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| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I think I'm going to stick to this kirc client. It's pretty lightweight | Nov 01 18:42 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | test | Nov 01 18:47 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | \HELP | Nov 01 18:48 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Don't mind me mucking about. | Nov 01 18:48 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz I got moved in. Few minor issues the landlord is going to fix tomorrow. | Nov 01 19:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But other than that, very quiet. Had my first good night of sleep in over a year and a half last night. | Nov 01 19:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I have a real home again. A real coffee maker. I'm putting furniture together. | Nov 01 19:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The furniture I got together so far is really nice for flatpack stuff. | Nov 01 19:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I hate furniture stores. They charge you the big bucks but it's not necessarily better than shopping Walmart and IKEA. | Nov 01 19:27 |
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| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | test | Nov 01 19:33 |
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| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Glad to hear about the move, DaemonFC. | Nov 01 19:33 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | The nice thing about flatpack stuff is that you can store it away if you need temporary space. | Nov 01 19:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, for more boxes. I'm just trying to get some of this dealt with each day. I want something to put my stereo on so I won't be so bored for the rest. | Nov 01 20:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No sense calling Comcast just yet. I'm swamped and I'd pay for a week where I'm emptying boxes and putting stuff together. | Nov 01 20:05 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: at last... | Nov 01 20:27 |
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| schestowitz | >> It is odd that the people who are hostile to IP are often the same | Nov 01 21:31 |
| schestowitz | > people who are in favour of data processing law - yet the latter | Nov 01 21:31 |
| schestowitz | > restricts personal freedom just as much (or more than) the former. | Nov 01 21:31 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 01 21:31 |
| schestowitz | > What a cheap fallacy, I imagine they could get a million of those for a 20p. | Nov 01 21:31 |
| schestowitz | Groklaw dead for days now | Nov 01 21:32 |
| schestowitz | http://groklaw.net | Nov 01 21:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 503 @ http://groklaw.net ) | Nov 01 21:32 | |
| schestowitz | Re: static pages | Nov 01 21:35 |
| schestowitz | > All the ones they've got. | Nov 01 21:35 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 01 21:35 |
| schestowitz | > https://web.archive.org/web/http://groklaw.net/staticpages/index.php?page=20080327223237989 | Nov 01 21:35 |
| schestowitz | > <https://web.archive.org/web/http://groklaw.net/staticpages/index.php?page=20080327223237989> | Nov 01 21:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Groklaw - Combined Docket #s 130-133 & 390- SCO Financials/Schedules | Nov 01 21:35 | |
| schestowitz | We might want to mirror the site is it stays offline... but it might also be too late now | Nov 01 21:35 |
| schestowitz | unless we copy the copies, which are imperfect | Nov 01 21:36 |
| schestowitz | geeklog the CMS isn't maintained afaik | Nov 01 21:36 |
| schestowitz | the site went into maintenance mode just 7 years ago | Nov 01 21:36 |
| schestowitz | lots of important posts, documents and comments in it | Nov 01 21:36 |
| schestowitz | also the Gates deposition videos | Nov 01 21:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Not a moment too soon. | Nov 01 21:40 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Some bums beat each other up and broke some woman's windshield out the night we left. | Nov 01 21:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | One parking spot away from me. | Nov 01 21:41 |
| schestowitz | haha | Nov 01 21:41 |
| schestowitz | wait till trump loses | Nov 01 21:41 |
| schestowitz | that's when the REAL violence commences | Nov 01 21:42 |
| schestowitz | [21:25] <schestowitz> > way out of control there. The US is already worst but due to current | Nov 01 21:42 |
| schestowitz | [21:25] <schestowitz> > utterances from the regime in power and their (in)actions, it's about to | Nov 01 21:42 |
| schestowitz | [21:25] <schestowitz> > become even more devastating. The post-election violence will be part | Nov 01 21:42 |
| schestowitz | [21:25] <schestowitz> > of the increased spread. | Nov 01 21:42 |
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| schestowitz | Interview with RMS work in progress | Nov 01 22:07 |
| schestowitz | "Will a Q&A be a possibility this month?" | Nov 01 22:08 |
| schestowitz | seems he's afraid of what some hacks might say | Nov 01 22:08 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Python Programming โข ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐ธ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143905 [https://pleroma.site/objects/48402211-c8dd-4835-bf35-11f72262986b] | Nov 01 22:31 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux Weekly Roundup #102 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143893#comment-26978 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ca83c6ef-f90a-40ab-b4b7-65d9af85e318] | Nov 01 22:51 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Todayโs #HowTos | #UNIX โข ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐ธ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143907 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a49b32fb-0252-4925-adeb-354130d69c92] | Nov 01 22:55 | |
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| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Think he's a bit busy with the election stuff going on. | Nov 01 23:00 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | As well* | Nov 01 23:00 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Been a lot of that in my RSS from his site. | Nov 01 23:01 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: โHalloween Editionโ โข ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐ธ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143908 [https://pleroma.site/objects/0d39da03-d3c6-47a2-8aeb-a7341f74aab0] | Nov 01 23:01 | |
| schestowitz | does he still say vote green except in swing states? | Nov 01 23:03 |
| schestowitz | lol! | Nov 01 23:06 |
| schestowitz | firefox with one little tab took up 2GB of RAM!! | Nov 01 23:06 |
| schestowitz | this is craaazy, moz | Nov 01 23:06 |
| superkuh | It's not bad for an OS. | Nov 01 23:06 |
| schestowitz | it was just this tab: https://www.freeimages.com/photo/fake-moon-1182101 | Nov 01 23:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Free fake moon Stock Photo - FreeImages.com | Nov 01 23:06 | |
| schestowitz | after restarting it's saner | Nov 01 23:06 |
| schestowitz | Falkon at 53 MB of RAM | Nov 01 23:07 |
| schestowitz | one tab open | Nov 01 23:07 |
| schestowitz | wordpress panel | Nov 01 23:07 |
| schestowitz | I'm going to start leaving top open in a tab, sorted by ram usage | Nov 01 23:11 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Bed time for me. Have a good one, all. | Nov 01 23:11 |
| schestowitz | I need to understand why it's grinding to a halt at times | Nov 01 23:11 |
| schestowitz | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: cheerio | Nov 01 23:11 |
| schestowitz | konqueror takes almost a whole CPU core's worth for doing nothing | Nov 01 23:12 |
| schestowitz | just some social control media thing polling for updates, which I cannot disable | Nov 01 23:12 |
| schestowitz | and now firefox takes 60% of a core, for doing nothing | Nov 01 23:13 |
| schestowitz | just sitting there | Nov 01 23:13 |
| schestowitz | wtf happened to the www? | Nov 01 23:13 |
| schestowitz | firefox-esr 44% | Nov 01 23:13 |
| schestowitz | Web Content 72% | Nov 01 23:13 |
| schestowitz | for just this page being opened: https://www.freeimages.com/photo/fake-moon-1182101 | Nov 01 23:13 |
| superkuh | Be the change. Disable javascript by default. | Nov 01 23:14 |
| schestowitz | I rarely use Firefox | Nov 01 23:14 |
| schestowitz | I used to disable more than JS in it | Nov 01 23:14 |
| superkuh | Ah. So no adblock/etc set up. | Nov 01 23:15 |
| schestowitz | now I browse the web with kate (editor) and quiterss | Nov 01 23:15 |
| schestowitz | javascript always off, otherwise I skip to the next site | Nov 01 23:15 |
| schestowitz | it's like merely being stationed in the page compels someone to mine bitcoin/cryptocurrency with my electric bill | Nov 01 23:16 |
| schestowitz | I've managed to bring that under control again | Nov 01 23:17 |
| schestowitz | I wonder if the ipfs extension vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx urged me to add caused part of that.. | Nov 01 23:17 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: man-pages-5.09 is released โข ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐ธ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143910 [https://pleroma.site/objects/894395fe-e017-48c2-94e6-2fa9957bb4a0] | Nov 01 23:20 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux 5.10-rc2 โข ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐ธ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143911 [https://pleroma.site/objects/77792e25-b44f-4242-a9f5-37c8505b1f44] | Nov 01 23:26 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: ArchBang November Release i3 Tiling Window Manager Based โข ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐ธ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143913 [https://pleroma.site/objects/44847ddc-87b8-444d-9516-dd5354aa39fd] | Nov 01 23:31 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux Kernel 5.8 Reaches End of Life, Users Urged to Upgrade to Linux 5.9 Series โข ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐ธ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143912 [https://pleroma.site/objects/78c9c0ee-ba32-4819-8b6f-cac8500376e1] | Nov 01 23:34 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Todayโs ๐ฃ๐พ๐ ๐๐ช๐ฌ๐ฑ๐ฒ๐ท๐ฎ๐ผ Leftovers โข ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐ธ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143914 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c67f1dbf-274e-43fa-940f-f0531c16e9b1] | Nov 01 23:49 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 1/11/2020: OpenIndiana Hipster 2020.10, RC2 of Next Linux Release and Trinity Desktop Environment (TDE) Release โข ๐๐ ด๐ ฒ๐ ท๐๐ ธ๐ ถ๐ ท๐๐ โ http://techrights.org/2020/11/01/rc2-of-next-linux-release/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/e44d966e-a7c9-4bc5-8f67-3f5b92cb7005] | Nov 01 23:52 | |
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