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schestowitzRe: FYI NTP on OpenBSD> :(Sep 02 04:39
schestowitz> Sep 02 04:39
schestowitz> ===> Displaying differences between ./etc/ntpd.conf and installed version:Sep 02 04:39
schestowitz> Sep 02 04:39
schestowitz> --- /etc/ntpd.conf      Fri Sep  8 20:45:24 2017Sep 02 04:39
schestowitz> +++ ./etc/ntpd.conf     Sun Sep  1 23:44:45 2019Sep 02 04:39
schestowitz> @@ -1,7 +1,8 @@Sep 02 04:39
schestowitz> -# $OpenBSD: ntpd.conf,v 1.14 2015/07/15 20:28:37 ajacoutot Exp $Sep 02 04:39
schestowitz> +# $OpenBSD: ntpd.conf,v 1.15 2019/07/04 05:19:31 deraadt Exp $Sep 02 04:39
schestowitz>  #Sep 02 04:39
schestowitz>  # See ntpd.conf(5) and /etc/examples/ntpd.confSep 02 04:39
schestowitz> Sep 02 04:39
schestowitz>  servers pool.ntp.orgSep 02 04:39
schestowitz> +server time.cloudflare.comSep 02 04:39
schestowitz>  sensor *Sep 02 04:39
schestowitz>  constraints from "https://www.google.com"Sep 02 04:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GoogleSep 02 04:39
schestowitzMozilla Firefox did something similar with DNS over httpd/tls, but I think only at experimental pages.Sep 02 04:39
schestowitzI view CF as an imperialistic asset -- a chokepoint for a political regime that already flexed muscles against Iran, China etc.Sep 02 04:39
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MinceRhttps://imgur.com/gallery/kUp5xAXSep 02 06:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Antivax mom is wants to protect her daughter from measles - Album on ImgurSep 02 06:38
MinceRhttps://full.pr0gramm.com/2019/08/11/89c0070d57b0c380.jpgSep 02 06:45
schestowitzlolSep 02 06:55
MinceRhttps://img.pr0gramm.com/2019/08/11/1d736b70ec94d641.jpgSep 02 06:56
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/wxRKRz3.jpg   https://i.imgur.com/73gu8I6.jpgSep 02 07:12
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scienteswow, Peter the Great was great, aristocratic sons had to study math science or engineering or they would loose their ranksSep 02 18:20
XRevan86scientes: He definitely had a visionSep 02 18:28
scientesjust watched this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBzRaxLdjZESep 02 18:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Rise of Russia and Prussia: Crash Course European History #17 - YouTubeSep 02 18:29
scientesthese are really just teasers, but they are greatSep 02 18:29
XRevan86scientes: Also keep in mind that he was ruthless and a Europe copycatSep 02 18:31
XRevan86not that it makes him stand out compared to European rulers of the time or anythingSep 02 18:31
scientesreally?Sep 02 18:32
scientesI mean I kinda like Queen Elizabeth I, but generally they are so pettySep 02 18:32
XRevan86https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_of_Russia ? (:Sep 02 18:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Elizabeth of Russia - WikipediaSep 02 18:32
XRevan86be more specific, he-heSep 02 18:33
scientesheheSep 02 18:33
scientesand Elizabeth I of England was only great because of the capitalists that changed things so much around herSep 02 18:34
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scientesand I really am not that big of a fan of the English legal systemSep 02 18:37
XRevan86scientes: The one that no one adopted except the former colonies which already had itSep 02 18:39
XRevan86scientes: What an unconventional opininon :PSep 02 18:39
XRevan86opinionSep 02 18:39
scientesit turned judges into godsSep 02 18:40
scientes*turnsSep 02 18:41
*XRevan86 looks at the Russian system where judges are slaves of the securocracySep 02 18:41
scientesyeah it looks that way even from the outsideSep 02 18:42
scientesand those judges have the ability to impose exit bansSep 02 18:42
scientesso they are quite powerfulSep 02 18:42
scientesElizabeth doesn't seem a very Russian name....Sep 02 18:43
scientesYelisavetaSep 02 18:43
scientesahhhhhSep 02 18:43
scientesThere is a statue in Lima to "Jorge Washington"Sep 02 18:44
XRevan86scientes: There aren't many Slavic names in Russia.Sep 02 18:44
XRevan86So yea, Yelizaveta, from GreekSep 02 18:45
XRevan86the "v" here is a good marker that the word is loaned from Byzantine (or later) GreekSep 02 18:46
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scientesso the "Romans" there spoke Greek?Sep 02 18:46
scientesand  not LatinSep 02 18:46
XRevan86scientes: That's right.Sep 02 18:47
XRevan86scientes: Greek was a pristine language in Rome for a long timeSep 02 18:47
XRevan86scientes: In Byzantium with a close connection to acual Greeks it won outSep 02 18:48
XRevan86* actualSep 02 18:48
scientescause this is Latin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corpus_Juris_CivilisSep 02 18:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Corpus Juris Civilis - WikipediaSep 02 18:48
XRevan86and apparently most of the population was Greek anywaySep 02 18:48
scientesso it took a few centuriesSep 02 18:48
XRevan86scientes: Makes sense.Sep 02 18:49
scientesits so funny to me that outside europe latin is now called englishSep 02 18:52
scientesas in the scriptSep 02 18:52
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XRevan86scientes: Not in Russia %)Sep 02 18:54
XRevan86scientes: "пиши латиницей"Sep 02 18:55
XRevan86scientes: But letter names are shifting towards the English norm.Sep 02 18:55
scientesewwwwwwSep 02 18:55
scientesthe English names are absolutely horribleSep 02 18:55
scientesespecially the vowelsSep 02 18:55
XRevan86scientes: For most of the population (and heck, myself included) exposure to the Latin alphabet is 99% of the time through English.Sep 02 18:57
scientesaround here its all SpanishSep 02 18:57
XRevan86scientes: And English vowel names are just as messed up as the whole literal approach to vowel :)Sep 02 18:58
XRevan86sSep 02 18:58
XRevan86scientes: I doubt "wye" will be able to replace "igrek" though :)Sep 02 19:00
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XRevan86scientes: "i griega" as it's called where you are probably :)Sep 02 19:05
XRevan86Oh hey, a fricative GSep 02 19:10
XRevan86garno, garnoSep 02 19:11
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scientesi actually haven't learned the spanish alphabet namesSep 02 19:15
scientesi kinda just guessSep 02 19:15
scientesdoesn't work well for the dual purpose ones like r or lSep 02 19:15
XRevan86I really didn't expect to hear a fricative GSep 02 19:16
XRevan86scientes: Do you know if it's uniform across Spanish speakers?Sep 02 19:17
scientesll is SH in argentinian accentSep 02 19:17
scientesinstead of similar to english ySep 02 19:18
XRevan86Because I was sure "amigo" sounds like that: амиґоSep 02 19:18
scientesthe alphabet, no ideaSep 02 19:18
scientesbut having names for the characters is always a stupid ideaSep 02 19:19
scientesthey should just have soundsSep 02 19:19
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XRevan86scientes: No, I mean pronunciation of the sound represented by the letter GSep 02 19:19
scientesit can be frictive or not i believeSep 02 19:20
XRevan86https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a7/Ru-город.ogg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bd/Uk-город.oggSep 02 19:20
schestowitz[18:41] * XRevan86 looks at the Russian system where judges are slaves of the securocracySep 02 19:20
scienteshttps://translate.google.com/#view=home&op=translate&sl=es&tl=en&text=gu%C3%ADaSep 02 19:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-translate.google.com | Google TranslateSep 02 19:21
schestowitzVery good article. I read the whole thing although I know already most of what it says. Summed up with: "This is what “class justice” looks like." #assange #wikileaks https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/07/11/assa-j11.html Sep 02 19:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wsws.org | Judge Emma Arbuthnot refuses to recuse herself in show trial of Julian Assange - World Socialist Web SiteSep 02 19:21
scientes> wsws.org oh yesSep 02 19:21
scientesAssange is a martyrSep 02 19:22
XRevan86Are judges required to wear these ridicious wigs?Sep 02 19:22
scientesyesSep 02 19:22
XRevan86ridiculousSep 02 19:22
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schestowitznastalgiaSep 02 19:24
schestowitzold wigs = wisdomSep 02 19:24
XRevan86schestowitz: A conflict of interest, ouch.Sep 02 19:25
schestowitzgaping oneSep 02 19:25
schestowitzand several, tooSep 02 19:25
XRevan86schestowitz: clowndomSep 02 19:25
scientesLibya also had absolutely no pretenseSep 02 19:25
XRevan86I really don't receive the wisdom vibes :)Sep 02 19:26
scientesit was very different from Iraq, where pretense was still assumed necessarySep 02 19:26
scientesand after writing the maps for so long, the CIA is looking awfully dated these daysSep 02 19:27
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scientes*the CIA mapsSep 02 19:27
XRevan86scientes: Does it count as pretense if it's like half a millimetre thick pellicle on the surface?Sep 02 19:27
scientesabout a year ago I was at a meal with some acquaintances, where one of my family's in-laws was asking about Iraq.....war bonds (freedom bonds?)....and if they might have value some day............Sep 02 19:30
scienteswhen you are dealing with such ignorance I guess it makes sense that the CIA doesn't re-write the mapsSep 02 19:30
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MinceR02 202543 <+XRevan86> schestowitz: clowndomSep 02 19:36
MinceRjust like suitsSep 02 19:36
XRevan86Suits are not nearly as badSep 02 19:37
scientesbut that's the point!Sep 02 19:38
scientesthey are trying to make a statement out of him, but that of course turns him into a martyrSep 02 19:38
scientesenglish judges have always been clowns like this, they had people drawn and quartered for gods sake, in the same stupid wigsSep 02 19:39
scientesCharles Dickens makes good fun of themSep 02 19:39
scientesthey also are famous for using unusual language so that the accused can't understand themSep 02 19:39
scientes> Sep 02 19:40
scientesIn January 2000, the Blair Labour government’s Home Secretary Jack Straw intervened to protect the mass murderer, overruling the House of Lords and insisting that extradition proceedings should be halted on the grounds of Pinochet’s supposed ill-health. Sep 02 19:40
XRevan86In Putin's Russia accused wished they couldn't understandSep 02 19:40
scientesBritian is funny because it has long had all the forms of democracy, with no actual democracySep 02 19:40
scienteswhat about the ill-health of all those he killed> /sarcasmSep 02 19:41
scientesless, Jack Straw, lets feel sorry for Pinochet and the other 9/11Sep 02 19:41
*XRevan86 saw this video: https://youtu.be/7DVy3D2eglESep 02 19:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Falklands Conflict 1982 - was Britain really fighting all alone? - YouTubeSep 02 19:42
scientesXRevan86, https://podcast.duolingo.com/episode-3-memorias-y-milanesasSep 02 19:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-podcast.duolingo.com | Spanish Podcast Episodes - Episode 3: Memorias y milanesas - DuolingoSep 02 19:43
scientesthat guy is SOOOO impartialSep 02 19:44
scientesdoesn't even call it "isles de maldives" onceSep 02 19:44
scientes*las Islas Malvinas. Sep 02 19:45
scientesthat guy is horribleSep 02 19:45
XRevan86The tl;dr is that Pinochet's regime helped the UK out in that war. That explains why they like him despite him being a horrible dictator.Sep 02 19:45
MinceRMalvineousSep 02 19:45
scientesthe only reason the british kept the islands is because it was an important whaling stopSep 02 19:45
XRevan86Gaddafi: https://youtu.be/mlz3-OzcExI Pinochet: that chap's alright!Sep 02 19:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Clinton on Qaddafi: We came, we saw, he died - YouTubeSep 02 19:47
scientesXRevan86, yes I use to post that aroundSep 02 19:47
scientesthat's basically why Assange has to be dealt with tooSep 02 19:47
scientesbecause it made so clear how evil Clinton wasSep 02 19:48
XRevan86that's the US, not the UK, but that distinction somehow doesn't feel all that importantSep 02 19:48
scientesand it sent Washington DC into courty politicsSep 02 19:48
scienteswhich is all they have been doing for earsySep 02 19:48
scientesalso, UK has massive inflation in 2008, but I've never heard a brit talk about itSep 02 19:48
scientes(or anyone)Sep 02 19:48
scienteswhile my Russian girlfriend could hardly stop talking about the Rouble inflationSep 02 19:49
XRevan86scientes: You may have noticed Russians don't mind talking about their government's problems :)Sep 02 19:49
scientesthe difference is that it is reasonable to attribute the Rouble inflation to outside forcesSep 02 19:50
scientesor at least possibleSep 02 19:50
XRevan86scientes: Rouble is weak and shaky, even bad weather can affect itSep 02 19:51
scientesyeah but when the US comes in and destroys Venezuela, when then it is the US's faultSep 02 19:51
scientesthe UK only has the UK to blame, but NO-ONE ever talked about itSep 02 19:51
scientesits like everyone just decides to suffer in silenceSep 02 19:52
scientesLike I meet British tourists, and then don't even mention the inflation when they spend lots on a doctors billSep 02 19:52
scientesI don't friggen get itSep 02 19:52
scientesits like it never happenedSep 02 19:52
XRevan86scientes: Maybe they just didn't notice because everything's insanely expensive there either way %)Sep 02 19:52
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/19060210Sep 02 22:13
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XRevan86"I think they're up to no good"Sep 02 22:13
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