●● IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Thursday, June 03, 2021 ●● ● Jun 03 [00:01] BaronVladimirHar Same story everywhere. [00:01] BaronVladimirHar/fn Same story everywhere. [00:01] BaronVladimirHar Put an app on your phone. Here's a 1099. Hope you don't get shot picking up fares for $4. [00:01] BaronVladimirHar/fn Put an app on your phone. Here's a 1099. Hope you don't get shot picking up fares for $4. [00:02] BaronVladimirHar Uber is extremely dangerous, for both the public and the drivers. [00:02] BaronVladimirHar/fn Uber is extremely dangerous, for both the public and the drivers. [00:02] BaronVladimirHar It's not worth the beating up your car and driving in dangerous neighborhoods for almost no money, but people do it because of unemployment. [00:02] BaronVladimirHar/fn It's not worth the beating up your car and driving in dangerous neighborhoods for almost no money, but people do it because of unemployment. [00:03] immibis what's your proposal, give people free money from the government? [00:03] immibis/fn what's your proposal, give people free money from the government? [00:03] BaronVladimirHar No solution seems to work very well. [00:03] BaronVladimirHar/fn No solution seems to work very well. [00:04] immibis or give the drivers more guns? [00:04] immibis/fn or give the drivers more guns? [00:04] BaronVladimirHar I've noticed that there's a ton of homeless people in Waukegan now, and it appears to be getting worse. [00:04] BaronVladimirHar/fn I've noticed that there's a ton of homeless people in Waukegan now, and it appears to be getting worse. [00:04] BaronVladimirHar Everyone should have a gun, assuming they don't have a felony record or extremely serious mental illness. [00:04] BaronVladimirHar/fn Everyone should have a gun, assuming they don't have a felony record or extremely serious mental illness. [00:05] techrights-bot Firefox 89: The New Contributors To MR1 about:community https://blog.mozilla.org/community/2021/06/02/firefox-89-the-new-contributors-to-mr1/ #Mozilla #WWW #FreeSW #Firefox #Internet [00:05] techrights-bot/fn Firefox 89: The New Contributors To MR1 about:community https://blog.mozilla.org/community/2021/06/02/firefox-89-the-new-contributors-to-mr1/ #Mozilla #WWW #FreeSW #Firefox #Internet [00:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Firefox 89: The New Contributors To MR1 about:community [00:05] TechrightsBot-tr/fn blog.mozilla.org | Firefox 89: The New Contributors To MR1 about:community [00:05] tr-bridge [ornxka/lc] i think that climate change is real and bad but also that climtae hysteria is dumb and has nothing to do with solving the problem [00:05] ornxka/lc i think that climate change is real and bad but also that climtae hysteria is dumb and has nothing to do with solving the problem [00:05] BaronVladimirHar Strangely, the Democrats don't appear to have considered that raising the cost of living and the price of labor doesn't work well when there's another state 8 miles away. [00:05] BaronVladimirHar/fn Strangely, the Democrats don't appear to have considered that raising the cost of living and the price of labor doesn't work well when there's another state 8 miles away. [00:05] *wRTPlkZvOiQt (~wRTPlkZvO@36.81.48.127) has joined #techrights [00:05] wRTPlkZvOiQt Andrxew LeeN rlikeIs Qsucking hot asian Pguy's dicIks aCnd DhQas ap cuhode himselfa. [00:05] *wRTPlkZvOiQt (~wRTPlkZvO@36.81.48.127) has left #techrights [00:05] wRTPlkZvOiQt/fn Andrxew LeeN rlikeIs Qsucking hot asian Pguy's dicIks aCnd DhQas ap cuhode himselfa. [00:06] immibis uber drivers should use their guns to defend themselves in dangerous neighbourhoods? [00:06] immibis/fn uber drivers should use their guns to defend themselves in dangerous neighbourhoods? [00:07] ornxka/lc instead of understanding how "just ban straws bro" intersects with government overreach while actually making it more difficult to solve the real issues they just call people paranoid climate change deniers and turn to biazarre ascetic rituals like not using paper towels [00:07] tr-bridge [ornxka/lc] instead of understanding how "just ban straws bro" intersects with government overreach while actually making it more difficult to solve the real issues they just call people paranoid climate change deniers and turn to biazarre ascetic rituals like not using paper towels [00:07] ornxka/lc did you guys know that recycling anything other than like, glass and metal is basically impossible? [00:07] tr-bridge [ornxka/lc] did you guys know that recycling anything other than like, glass and metal is basically impossible? [00:07] ornxka/lc you spend hours every week putting all of your plastic in the right bin and people get all shitty with you if you put plastic in the trash [00:07] tr-bridge [ornxka/lc] you spend hours every week putting all of your plastic in the right bin and people get all shitty with you if you put plastic in the trash [00:08] ornxka/lc but all the plastic just gets burnt anyway, it is impossible to recycle plastic except into shit nobody wants [00:08] tr-bridge [ornxka/lc] but all the plastic just gets burnt anyway, it is impossible to recycle plastic except into shit nobody wants [00:08] ornxka/lc nobody who claims to care about the environment will tell you this or admit it, its all just a hokey personal religion to them [00:08] tr-bridge [ornxka/lc] nobody who claims to care about the environment will tell you this or admit it, its all just a hokey personal religion to them [00:08] immibis what's your proposal, ban packaging other than glass or metal? [00:08] immibis/fn what's your proposal, ban packaging other than glass or metal? [00:08] oo/lc need a way to add disclaimers for the people only here to observe the shit chat from the freenode side but who actually associate themselves with #techrights [00:08] tr-bridge [oo/lc] need a way to add disclaimers for the people only here to observe the shit chat from the freenode side but who actually associate themselves with #techrights [00:08] immibis fyi, this was hidden from even environmental activists until recently [00:08] immibis/fn fyi, this was hidden from even environmental activists until recently [00:08] techrights-bot 8 Best Free Graphics Editors for Creating Vector Images https://www.maketecheasier.com/free-graphic-editor-for-creating-vector-image/ includes #kde #krita [00:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | 8 Best Free Graphics Editors for Creating Vector Images - Make Tech Easier [00:08] techrights-bot/fn 8 Best Free Graphics Editors for Creating Vector Images https://www.maketecheasier.com/free-graphic-editor-for-creating-vector-image/ includes #kde #krita [00:08] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.maketecheasier.com | 8 Best Free Graphics Editors for Creating Vector Images - Make Tech Easier [00:09] ornxka/lc im more of an "ideas guy" than a "solutions guy" sorry [00:09] tr-bridge [ornxka/lc] im more of an "ideas guy" than a "solutions guy" sorry [00:09] immibis big packaging certainly doesn't want environmental activists to know they aren't doing anything [00:09] immibis/fn big packaging certainly doesn't want environmental activists to know they aren't doing anything [00:09] techrights-bot #LibreOffice : Print Dialog, Recap, and ODF http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151875 #freesw [00:09] techrights-bot/fn #LibreOffice : Print Dialog, Recap, and ODF http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151875 #freesw [00:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LibreOffice: Print Dialog, Recap, and ODF | Tux Machines [00:09] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | LibreOffice: Print Dialog, Recap, and ODF | Tux Machines [00:11] ornxka/lc if i were in charge i would probably just ban all packaging that isnt either recyclable or burnable [00:11] tr-bridge [ornxka/lc] if i were in charge i would probably just ban all packaging that isnt either recyclable or burnable [00:12] techrights-bot #Paleofetch : Imagine A #Suckless Style #Neofetch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lec9HBOMhLg [00:12] techrights-bot/fn #Paleofetch : Imagine A #Suckless Style #Neofetch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lec9HBOMhLg [00:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Paleofetch: Imagine A Suckless Style Neofetch - YouTube [00:12] TechrightsBot-tr/fn Paleofetch: Imagine A Suckless Style Neofetch - YouTube [00:13] oo/lc why does one bot post a link and the second post the title for the link [00:13] tr-bridge [oo/lc] why does one bot post a link and the second post the title for the link [00:13] oo/lc can the one that sends notices just fuck off [00:13] tr-bridge [oo/lc] can the one that sends notices just fuck off [00:13] BaronVladimirHar Why not? That does stop them from jacking someone else. [00:13] BaronVladimirHar/fn Why not? That does stop them from jacking someone else. [00:13] ornxka/lc yeah its pretty annoying [00:13] tr-bridge [ornxka/lc] yeah its pretty annoying [00:13] *mmu_man has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [00:14] techrights-bot The #zdnet shills are attacking the #fsf again. Please #boycottZDNet ... it's an #ibm and #microsoft propaganda platform (together with OIN and LF). [00:14] techrights-bot/fn The #zdnet shills are attacking the #fsf again. Please #boycottZDNet ... it's an #ibm and #microsoft propaganda platform (together with OIN and LF). [00:14] immibis ornxka: so you'd ban nothing, then [00:14] immibis/fn ornxka: so you'd ban nothing, then [00:14] ornxka/lc isnt it bad to burn plastics [00:14] tr-bridge [ornxka/lc] isnt it bad to burn plastics [00:14] immibis you can burn plastics. I believe at high enough temperatures, even the toxic stuff breaks down into boring stuff [00:14] immibis/fn you can burn plastics. I believe at high enough temperatures, even the toxic stuff breaks down into boring stuff [00:15] immibis not 100% sure though [00:15] immibis/fn not 100% sure though [00:15] ornxka/lc or is that another voodoo-tier thing the climate people told us [00:15] tr-bridge [ornxka/lc] or is that another voodoo-tier thing the climate people told us [00:15] MinceR 03 004935 < BaronVladimirHar> If climate change is really a huge problem, why do we only hear about the "Earth screaming for help" from billionaires who have investments in the alleged solutions? It's never a solution that anyone would live with if market forces were in effect. [00:15] MinceR/fn 03 004935 < BaronVladimirHar> If climate change is really a huge problem, why do we only hear about the "Earth screaming for help" from billionaires who have investments in the alleged solutions? It's never a solution that anyone would live with if market forces were in effect. [00:15] immibis from a CO2 perspective, burning plastics is as bad as burning oil [00:15] immibis/fn from a CO2 perspective, burning plastics is as bad as burning oil [00:15] MinceR because other people have more short-term issues [00:15] MinceR/fn because other people have more short-term issues [00:15] techrights-bot #ibm and #microsoft misuse media control (in effect #bribery disguised as advertising) to attack #freesw and communities. [00:15] techrights-bot/fn #ibm and #microsoft misuse media control (in effect #bribery disguised as advertising) to attack #freesw and communities. [00:15] oo/lc < BaronVladimirHar> If climate change is really a huge problem, why do we only hear about the "Earth screaming for help" from billionaires [00:15] tr-bridge [oo/lc] < BaronVladimirHar> If climate change is really a huge problem, why do we only hear about the "Earth screaming for help" from billionaires [00:15] oo/lc are you fucking kidding [00:15] tr-bridge [oo/lc] are you fucking kidding [00:15] oo/lc like every scientist ever is screaming about climate change [00:15] tr-bridge [oo/lc] like every scientist ever is screaming about climate change [00:15] immibis oo: greta thunberg is about to be a billionaire according to him [00:15] immibis/fn oo: greta thunberg is about to be a billionaire according to him [00:15] oo/lc lol ok pal [00:15] tr-bridge [oo/lc] lol ok pal [00:15] MinceR people who worry about getting fed next week don't worry that much about earth becoming uninhabitable by humans a few decades or centuries from now [00:16] MinceR/fn people who worry about getting fed next week don't worry that much about earth becoming uninhabitable by humans a few decades or centuries from now [00:16] ornxka/lc baron - i think that "climate change", the hokey religion that revolves around not using paper towels and putting your plastics in the recycling bin and the actual phenomenon of the climate changing are simply not related at all [00:16] tr-bridge [ornxka/lc] baron - i think that "climate change", the hokey religion that revolves around not using paper towels and putting your plastics in the recycling bin and the actual phenomenon of the climate changing are simply not related at all [00:16] ornxka/lc you cant start from one and learn anything about the other [00:16] tr-bridge [ornxka/lc] you cant start from one and learn anything about the other [00:16] BaronVladimirHar https://wgntv.com/news/bear-tranquilized-after-great-smoky-mountains-visitors-try-to-feed-it-peanut-butter-rangers-say/ [00:16] BaronVladimirHar/fn https://wgntv.com/news/bear-tranquilized-after-great-smoky-mountains-visitors-try-to-feed-it-peanut-butter-rangers-say/ [00:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wgntv.com | Bear tranquilized after Great Smoky Mountains visitors try to feed it peanut butter, rangers say | WGN-TV [00:16] TechrightsBot-tr/fn wgntv.com | Bear tranquilized after Great Smoky Mountains visitors try to feed it peanut butter, rangers say | WGN-TV [00:16] *cfbaEZkHJt (~cfbaEZkHJ@81.16.245.179) has joined #techrights [00:16] BaronVladimirHar Humans: Feed bear peanut butter. Also humans: Wonder why bear breaks into their cabin and attacks them. MinceR [00:16] BaronVladimirHar/fn Humans: Feed bear peanut butter. Also humans: Wonder why bear breaks into their cabin and attacks them. MinceR [00:17] cfbaEZkHJt mGschustaer91 2Y days ago [t]l [00:17] cfbaEZkHJt/fn mGschustaer91 2Y days ago [t]l [00:17] *cfbaEZkHJt (~cfbaEZkHJ@81.16.245.179) has left #techrights [00:17] dy/lc They should have tranquilized the visitors, not the bear. [00:17] tr-bridge [dy/lc] They should have tranquilized the visitors, not the bear. [00:17] techrights-bot #Firefox Latest and Death of #Chrome Apps http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151876 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:17] techrights-bot/fn #Firefox Latest and Death of #Chrome Apps http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151876 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Firefox Latest and Death of Chrome Apps | Tux Machines [00:17] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | Firefox Latest and Death of Chrome Apps | Tux Machines [00:17] tr-bridge [dy/lc] Little tranq dart to the neck, extract, and deposit outside the park. [00:17] dy/lc Little tranq dart to the neck, extract, and deposit outside the park. [00:17] techrights-bot #Audiocasts/Shows: FLOSS Weekly, Coder Radio, #mintCast and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151877 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:17] techrights-bot/fn #Audiocasts/Shows: FLOSS Weekly, Coder Radio, #mintCast and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151877 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: FLOSS Weekly, Coder Radio, mintCast and More | Tux Machines [00:17] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: FLOSS Weekly, Coder Radio, mintCast and More | Tux Machines [00:18] BaronVladimirHar You forgot tagging where it zaps them if they get too close to the park again. [00:18] BaronVladimirHar/fn You forgot tagging where it zaps them if they get too close to the park again. [00:18] BaronVladimirHar :) [00:18] BaronVladimirHar/fn :) [00:18] BaronVladimirHar It'll condition about 99% of them to not try again. [00:18] BaronVladimirHar/fn It'll condition about 99% of them to not try again. [00:18] immibis just give the bear a gun to defend itself with [00:18] immibis/fn just give the bear a gun to defend itself with [00:19] MinceR ornxka/lc: "climate change" is the term "republicans" came up with when they banned the term "global warming" where they had enough power to do so [00:19] MinceR/fn ornxka/lc: "climate change" is the term "republicans" came up with when they banned the term "global warming" where they had enough power to do so [00:19] MinceR but now even "climate change" triggers them [00:19] MinceR/fn but now even "climate change" triggers them [00:19] MinceR immibis: the bear already has claws, fangs and great strength [00:19] MinceR/fn immibis: the bear already has claws, fangs and great strength [00:19] oo/lc do yall really not understand climate change [00:19] tr-bridge [oo/lc] do yall really not understand climate change [00:19] ornxka/lc mincer: have you ever actually seen a republican? i havent [00:19] tr-bridge [ornxka/lc] mincer: have you ever actually seen a republican? i havent [00:19] oo/lc i thought we were over this [00:19] tr-bridge [oo/lc] i thought we were over this [00:19] BaronVladimirHar I think weighing about 900 pounds and having teeth and claws achieves that. For the most part. [00:19] BaronVladimirHar/fn I think weighing about 900 pounds and having teeth and claws achieves that. For the most part. [00:19] MinceR ornxka/lc: i don't live in the USA [00:19] MinceR/fn ornxka/lc: i don't live in the USA [00:19] BaronVladimirHar Yeah, I want that thing to get closer to me... [00:19] BaronVladimirHar/fn Yeah, I want that thing to get closer to me... [00:19] immibis well then why do you need to tranquilize the humans? Just let the bear defend itself [00:19] immibis/fn well then why do you need to tranquilize the humans? Just let the bear defend itself [00:19] jessicara i don't think claws are a good ranged attack [00:19] jessicara/fn i don't think claws are a good ranged attack [00:20] immibis it has a right to self-defense [00:20] immibis/fn it has a right to self-defense [00:20] XRevan86 oo: The greenhouse gases == bad thing? [00:20] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] oo: The greenhouse gases == bad thing? [00:20] ornxka/lc mincer: anyone who complains about republicans is an american, no matter what country you are from or live in [00:20] tr-bridge [ornxka/lc] mincer: anyone who complains about republicans is an american, no matter what country you are from or live in [00:20] BaronVladimirHar The right to bear arms. [00:20] BaronVladimirHar/fn The right to bear arms. [00:20] MinceR lol [00:20] MinceR/fn lol [00:20] oo/lc XRevan86: right [00:20] tr-bridge [oo/lc] XRevan86: right [00:20] ornxka/lc you are laughing but i am serious, americanism is a state of mind [00:20] tr-bridge [ornxka/lc] you are laughing but i am serious, americanism is a state of mind [00:21] ornxka/lc you arrive at it by watching too much television and tabloid magazines and actually setting foot here is not requires [00:21] tr-bridge [ornxka/lc] you arrive at it by watching too much television and tabloid magazines and actually setting foot here is not requires [00:21] MinceR well, we have our own "conservatives" who to some extent copy the "republicans" [00:21] MinceR/fn well, we have our own "conservatives" who to some extent copy the "republicans" [00:21] jessicara also glass bottles tend to result in drinks which taste better than plastic bottles, i think both plastic and aliminum tend to leech their environment over time in storage... [00:21] jessicara/fn also glass bottles tend to result in drinks which taste better than plastic bottles, i think both plastic and aliminum tend to leech their environment over time in storage... [00:21] immibis most countries have their equivalent of republicans. American republicans are, like, 10% dumber than all the rest [00:21] immibis/fn most countries have their equivalent of republicans. American republicans are, like, 10% dumber than all the rest [00:21] XRevan86 ornxkapechal-bieda [00:21] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] ornxkapechal-bieda [00:21] XRevan86 ornxka: pechal'-bieda [00:21] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] ornxka: pechal'-bieda [00:21] oo/lc i think american republicans export their shit views to the rest of the world for the most part [00:21] tr-bridge [oo/lc] i think american republicans export their shit views to the rest of the world for the most part [00:21] MinceR jessicara: PET does leach, that's why they tell you not to reuse PET bottles [00:21] MinceR/fn jessicara: PET does leach, that's why they tell you not to reuse PET bottles [00:21] oo/lc e.g. australia media is influenced a lot by american fuckery [00:21] tr-bridge [oo/lc] e.g. australia media is influenced a lot by american fuckery [00:21] immibis why would using one bottle twice be any worse than using two different bottles? [00:21] immibis/fn why would using one bottle twice be any worse than using two different bottles? [00:22] ornxka/lc xreven86: if i was supposed to understand that i didnt :p [00:22] tr-bridge [ornxka/lc] xreven86: if i was supposed to understand that i didnt :p [00:22] techrights-bot #Krita and #KDEItinerary http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151878 #KDE #Linux #TuxMachines [00:22] techrights-bot/fn #Krita and #KDEItinerary http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151878 #KDE #Linux #TuxMachines [00:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Krita and KDE Itinerary | Tux Machines [00:22] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | Krita and KDE Itinerary | Tux Machines [00:22] MinceR PET bottles age and are subjected to physical stress, which is claimed to accelerate leaching of phthalates [00:22] MinceR/fn PET bottles age and are subjected to physical stress, which is claimed to accelerate leaching of phthalates [00:22] XRevan86 oo: It's just a set-up in case I get accused of Americanism too :) [00:22] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] oo: It's just a set-up in case I get accused of Americanism too :) [00:22] XRevan86 MinceR is not from an English-speaking country either. [00:22] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] MinceR is not from an English-speaking country either. [00:23] MinceR indeed [00:23] MinceR/fn indeed [00:23] tr-bridge [ornxka/lc] speaking english, as any american will tell you, is not a requirement to be an american [00:23] ornxka/lc speaking english, as any american will tell you, is not a requirement to be an american [00:23] MinceR lol [00:23] MinceR/fn lol [00:23] MinceR some of them will tell you it is [00:23] MinceR/fn some of them will tell you it is [00:23] XRevan86 nor a Spanish-speaking country [00:23] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] nor a Spanish-speaking country [00:23] ornxka/lc americans constitute most of the earth's population [00:23] tr-bridge [ornxka/lc] americans constitute most of the earth's population [00:23] MinceR though not a sufficient one [00:23] MinceR/fn though not a sufficient one [00:23] tr-bridge [oo/lc] ornxka: the fuck [00:23] oo/lc ornxka: the fuck [00:23] techrights-bot Eben Moglen: #GCC Drops Requirement of #Copyright Assignment to #FSF https://www.softwarefreedom.org/blog/2021/jun/02/gcc-statement/ see http://techrights.org/2021/06/02/gcc-copyright-assignment/ [00:23] techrights-bot/fn Eben Moglen: #GCC Drops Requirement of #Copyright Assignment to #FSF https://www.softwarefreedom.org/blog/2021/jun/02/gcc-statement/ see http://techrights.org/2021/06/02/gcc-copyright-assignment/ [00:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.softwarefreedom.org | GCC Drops Requirement of Copyright Assignment to FSF - Software Freedom Law Center [00:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | It Remains Largely Unclear Whose Idea It Was to Change GCC Copyright Assignment Practices (or How/Why It Started) | Techrights [00:23] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.softwarefreedom.org | GCC Drops Requirement of Copyright Assignment to FSF - Software Freedom Law Center [00:23] TechrightsBot-tr/fn techrights.org | It Remains Largely Unclear Whose Idea It Was to Change GCC Copyright Assignment Practices (or How/Why It Started) | Techrights [00:24] oo/lc who runs that fucking bot [00:24] tr-bridge [oo/lc] who runs that fucking bot [00:25] humble/lc superkuh I think [00:25] tr-bridge [humble/lc] superkuh I think [00:25] superkuh/lc Nope. [00:25] tr-bridge [superkuh/lc] Nope. [00:25] techrights-bot #SJVN Attacks Stallman again (ZDNet) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151827#comment-29842 #boycottzdnet http://techrights.org/wiki/ZDNet [00:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FSF Copyright Assignment and GCC, GCC 9.4 Released | Tux Machines [00:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ZDNet - Techrights [00:25] techrights-bot/fn #SJVN Attacks Stallman again (ZDNet) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151827#comment-29842 #boycottzdnet http://techrights.org/wiki/ZDNet [00:25] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | FSF Copyright Assignment and GCC, GCC 9.4 Released | Tux Machines [00:25] TechrightsBot-tr/fn techrights.org | ZDNet - Techrights [00:26] XRevan86 oo: "TechrightsBot-tr" ye mean? [00:26] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] oo: "TechrightsBot-tr" ye mean? [00:26] humble/lc tr-bridge [00:26] tr-bridge [humble/lc] tr-bridge [00:26] BaronVladimirHar The FSF would still have the copyright on so much of the code that they could still enforce it. [00:26] BaronVladimirHar/fn The FSF would still have the copyright on so much of the code that they could still enforce it. [00:26] MinceR except in Germany :> [00:26] MinceR/fn except in Germany :> [00:26] XRevan86 oo, humble: I do. Was that a bad idea? [00:26] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] oo, humble: I do. Was that a bad idea? [00:26] dy/lc What's a copyright? [00:26] tr-bridge [dy/lc] What's a copyright? [00:27] dy/lc Is that like a copyleft? [00:27] tr-bridge [dy/lc] Is that like a copyleft? [00:27] techrights-bot #KaliLinux 2021.2 released: Kaboxer, Kali-Tweaks, new tools, and more! http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151834#comment-29843 [00:27] MinceR and in any other jurisdiction where that vmware bullshit flies [00:27] techrights-bot/fn #KaliLinux 2021.2 released: Kaboxer, Kali-Tweaks, new tools, and more! http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151834#comment-29843 [00:27] MinceR/fn and in any other jurisdiction where that vmware bullshit flies [00:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kali Linux 2021.2 Release (Kaboxer, Kali-Tweaks, Bleeding-Edge & Privileged Ports) | Tux Machines [00:27] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | Kali Linux 2021.2 Release (Kaboxer, Kali-Tweaks, Bleeding-Edge & Privileged Ports) | Tux Machines [00:27] oo/lc It's just severely annoying having it drop long links and texts and then another bot sends notices with the titles of links [00:27] tr-bridge [oo/lc] It's just severely annoying having it drop long links and texts and then another bot sends notices with the titles of links [00:27] XRevan86 So TechrightsBot-tr, not tr-bridge [00:27] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] So TechrightsBot-tr, not tr-bridge [00:28] oo/lc right [00:28] tr-bridge [oo/lc] right [00:28] immibis dy: copyright is like copyleft but free-market instead of communist [00:28] immibis/fn dy: copyright is like copyleft but free-market instead of communist [00:28] immibis it's in the name, copyRIGHT [00:28] immibis/fn it's in the name, copyRIGHT [00:28] MinceR they're both free-market [00:28] MinceR/fn they're both free-market [00:28] XRevan86 Well, that's on schestowitz, I don't know how that's set-up. It could be hard to make it ignore messages from the other bot, dunno. [00:28] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] Well, that's on schestowitz, I don't know how that's set-up. It could be hard to make it ignore messages from the other bot, dunno. [00:28] MinceR to some extent [00:28] MinceR/fn to some extent [00:29] immibis no, copyleft perverts the free market to enforce communist norms [00:29] immibis/fn no, copyleft perverts the free market to enforce communist norms [00:29] MinceR copyleft is a hack on top of copyright to try to get people to contribute more to free software projects they use [00:29] MinceR/fn copyleft is a hack on top of copyright to try to get people to contribute more to free software projects they use [00:29] XRevan86 immibis: That's a funny take. Of course, not true at all. [00:29] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] immibis: That's a funny take. Of course, not true at all. [00:29] BaronVladimirHar Someone invited me to a franchise opportunity event. :) [00:29] BaronVladimirHar/fn Someone invited me to a franchise opportunity event. :) [00:29] MinceR then again, i guess it means what you mean by "communist" [00:29] MinceR/fn then again, i guess it means what you mean by "communist" [00:29] BaronVladimirHar The whole point of franchising is to outsource risk. [00:29] BaronVladimirHar/fn The whole point of franchising is to outsource risk. [00:30] BaronVladimirHar Subway is doing so bad that someone who I know told me their boss made them pull expired bread out of the trash and start making sandwiches out of it again. [00:30] BaronVladimirHar/fn Subway is doing so bad that someone who I know told me their boss made them pull expired bread out of the trash and start making sandwiches out of it again. [00:30] MinceR if you mean what was implemented under the name (for example, in the previous russian empire), then there are some highly effective copyright abusers (like microsoft) that are exemplars of that sort of authoritarian central control set-up [00:30] MinceR/fn if you mean what was implemented under the name (for example, in the previous russian empire), then there are some highly effective copyright abusers (like microsoft) that are exemplars of that sort of authoritarian central control set-up [00:30] MinceR things like microsoft telling you what OS you're allowed on your computer [00:30] MinceR/fn things like microsoft telling you what OS you're allowed on your computer [00:31] MinceR s/wed/wed to boot/ [00:31] MinceR/fn s/wed/wed to boot/ [00:31] MinceR and that isn't very "free-market" :> [00:31] MinceR/fn and that isn't very "free-market" :> [00:31] techrights-bot They talk about #security but outsource to #ProprietarySoftware of #microsoft #nsa (PRISM). #deletegithub or be assumed 'fake security' https://www.suse.com/c/suse-guest-blog-by-reblaze/ [00:31] techrights-bot/fn They talk about #security but outsource to #ProprietarySoftware of #microsoft #nsa (PRISM). #deletegithub or be assumed 'fake security' https://www.suse.com/c/suse-guest-blog-by-reblaze/ [00:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SUSE Guest Blog by Reblaze | SUSE Communities [00:31] TechrightsBot-tr/fn SUSE Guest Blog by Reblaze | SUSE Communities [00:31] XRevan86 "right" is an ambiguous word, and in "copyright" it has nothing to do with the directional right (nor the derived right-wingness) [00:31] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] "right" is an ambiguous word, and in "copyright" it has nothing to do with the directional right (nor the derived right-wingness) [00:32] MinceR indeed [00:32] MinceR/fn indeed [00:32] XRevan86 being a captain obvious just in case someone takes that seriously [00:32] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] being a captain obvious just in case someone takes that seriously [00:32] MinceR :> [00:32] MinceR/fn :> [00:32] immibis it does have to do with rights. copyRIGHT means you get rights. copyLEFT means you don't [00:32] immibis/fn it does have to do with rights. copyRIGHT means you get rights. copyLEFT means you don't [00:32] techrights-bot #TiledMenu in #Plasma - A Windowsy Linux experience http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151879 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tiled Menu in Plasma - A Windowsy Linux experience | Tux Machines [00:32] BaronVladimirHar I wonder if the library is still closed, by the left, while they still tax you to use it. [00:32] techrights-bot/fn #TiledMenu in #Plasma - A Windowsy Linux experience http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151879 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:32] immibis copyleft means you get venezuela [00:32] BaronVladimirHar/fn I wonder if the library is still closed, by the left, while they still tax you to use it. [00:32] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | Tiled Menu in Plasma - A Windowsy Linux experience | Tux Machines [00:32] immibis/fn copyleft means you get venezuela [00:32] MinceR lol [00:32] MinceR/fn lol [00:33] MinceR copyleft depends on copyright to function [00:33] MinceR/fn copyleft depends on copyright to function [00:33] XRevan86 immibis: "copyleft" is a pun on "copyright" to present it as special [00:33] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] immibis: "copyleft" is a pun on "copyright" to present it as special [00:33] BaronVladimirHar Speaking of copyright, a lot of my tax money goes to have our library "participate" in a ebook scheme that never has anything available worth reading. [00:33] BaronVladimirHar/fn Speaking of copyright, a lot of my tax money goes to have our library "participate" in a ebook scheme that never has anything available worth reading. [00:34] BaronVladimirHar And this scheme limits the number of "copies" checked out as if they were a physical book, even though it's a file on a server. [00:34] BaronVladimirHar/fn And this scheme limits the number of "copies" checked out as if they were a physical book, even though it's a file on a server. [00:34] XRevan86 copyleft (and any kind of licensing) is a form of copyright [00:34] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] copyleft (and any kind of licensing) is a form of copyright [00:34] techrights-bot #Security Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151880 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [00:34] techrights-bot/fn #Security Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151880 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:34] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [00:34] XRevan86 one cannot escape copyright [00:34] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] one cannot escape copyright [00:34] immibis XRevan86: do we support people using their rights to take away others' rights? [00:34] immibis/fn XRevan86: do we support people using their rights to take away others' rights? [00:34] XRevan86 those who claim to have escaped copyright are in denial [00:34] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] those who claim to have escaped copyright are in denial [00:34] ornxka/lc https://pastebin.com/ndWYsXsH i wonder if this will do what i think it does [00:34] tr-bridge [ornxka/lc] https://pastebin.com/ndWYsXsH i wonder if this will do what i think it does [00:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-https://pastebin.com/ndWYsXsH - Pastebin.com [00:34] TechrightsBot-tr/fn https://pastebin.com/ndWYsXsH - Pastebin.com [00:35] ornxka/lc aw it doesnt [00:35] tr-bridge [ornxka/lc] aw it doesnt [00:35] ornxka/lc i was wondering if it would get in a loop [00:35] tr-bridge [ornxka/lc] i was wondering if it would get in a loop [00:35] ornxka/lc what a shame! [00:35] tr-bridge [ornxka/lc] what a shame! [00:35] MinceR TechrightsBot-tr uses notices [00:35] MinceR/fn TechrightsBot-tr uses notices [00:35] ornxka/lc ahhh [00:35] tr-bridge [ornxka/lc] ahhh [00:35] MinceR as RFC 1459 specifies, bots are not supposed to reply to notices [00:35] MinceR/fn as RFC 1459 specifies, bots are not supposed to reply to notices [00:35] XRevan86 ah [00:35] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] ah [00:35] BaronVladimirHar Teaching people to read is only part of the problem. Half of all Americans are like, functionally illiterate at this point, and are making up "fuck it, I give up halfway through, oh and I was drunk too" ebonics words. [00:35] BaronVladimirHar/fn Teaching people to read is only part of the problem. Half of all Americans are like, functionally illiterate at this point, and are making up "fuck it, I give up halfway through, oh and I was drunk too" ebonics words. [00:35] BaronVladimirHar Mostly about pussy and drugs. [00:35] BaronVladimirHar/fn Mostly about pussy and drugs. [00:36] XRevan86 MinceR: Are techrights-bot's messages notices? [00:36] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: Are techrights-bot's messages notices? [00:36] MinceR no [00:36] MinceR/fn no [00:36] XRevan86 Because they're what TechrightsBot-tr replies with a notice to [00:36] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] Because they're what TechrightsBot-tr replies with a notice to [00:36] MinceR perhaps intentionally, so that we get URL titles :> [00:36] MinceR/fn perhaps intentionally, so that we get URL titles :> [00:36] XRevan86 MinceR: They're complaining about exactly that, as they get redundant. [00:36] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: They're complaining about exactly that, as they get redundant. [00:37] MinceR well, it's out of my hands :) [00:37] MinceR/fn well, it's out of my hands :) [00:37] XRevan86 And out of mine. [00:37] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] And out of mine. [00:37] XRevan86 immibis: That's a very abstract question. [00:37] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] immibis: That's a very abstract question. [00:37] BaronVladimirHar MinceR: Mom was on the phone last night recalling a race that her ex-husband Gonad the Barbarian took them to. They were camping. [00:37] BaronVladimirHar/fn MinceR: Mom was on the phone last night recalling a race that her ex-husband Gonad the Barbarian took them to. They were camping. [00:37] XRevan86 immibis: And copyleft is a lot less restrictive than any proprietary EULA is. [00:37] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] immibis: And copyleft is a lot less restrictive than any proprietary EULA is. [00:38] MinceR immibis: i can't speak for others, but i'd gladly give up copyright if it meant getting rid of all Imaginary Property [00:38] MinceR/fn immibis: i can't speak for others, but i'd gladly give up copyright if it meant getting rid of all Imaginary Property [00:38] BaronVladimirHar One of his friends brought their 18 and 19 year olds with them. One of them met a woman who said they'd go in the port a potty and have sex, and as soon as she got his pants off, she ran off with them and his wallet. [00:38] BaronVladimirHar/fn One of his friends brought their 18 and 19 year olds with them. One of them met a woman who said they'd go in the port a potty and have sex, and as soon as she got his pants off, she ran off with them and his wallet. [00:38] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:38] XRevan86 as free software by design allows a lot more than any proprietary software [00:38] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] as free software by design allows a lot more than any proprietary software [00:38] BaronVladimirHar He ended up spending the entire day in a port a potty, naked, and lost his wallet. [00:38] BaronVladimirHar/fn He ended up spending the entire day in a port a potty, naked, and lost his wallet. [00:38] *asusbox has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:38] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:38] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:38] BaronVladimirHar Some people just have to learn everything the worst way possible. [00:38] BaronVladimirHar/fn Some people just have to learn everything the worst way possible. [00:38] MinceR lol [00:38] MinceR/fn lol [00:38] XRevan86 immibis: Since ye're comparing not to permissive licences but to copyright in general, no, copyleft allows more, not less. [00:38] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] immibis: Since ye're comparing not to permissive licences but to copyright in general, no, copyleft allows more, not less. [00:39] *techrights-ipfs has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [00:39] immibis hmm, you are saying microsoft they shouldn't have the right to do what they want with their property [00:39] immibis/fn hmm, you are saying microsoft they shouldn't have the right to do what they want with their property [00:39] immibis s/they// [00:39] immibis/fn s/they// [00:39] MinceR no, they shouldn't have the right to do what they want with _my_ property [00:39] MinceR/fn no, they shouldn't have the right to do what they want with _my_ property [00:40] MinceR they should get their tentacles out of the IT industry [00:40] MinceR/fn they should get their tentacles out of the IT industry [00:40] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [00:40] MinceR/fn if they stopped forcing their crap on me, i'd gladly not touch any of it ever again [00:40] MinceR if they stopped forcing their crap on me, i'd gladly not touch any of it ever again [00:40] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [00:40] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [00:40] *asusbox2 has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [00:40] immibis microsoft shouldn't have the right to not publish their source code, but we should have the right to not publish our source code [00:40] immibis/fn microsoft shouldn't have the right to not publish their source code, but we should have the right to not publish our source code [00:41] MinceR i shouldn't have to care about what they do or do not publish [00:41] MinceR/fn i shouldn't have to care about what they do or do not publish [00:41] BaronVladimirHar MinceR: You mean you aren't excited about WinGet? [00:41] BaronVladimirHar/fn MinceR: You mean you aren't excited about WinGet? [00:41] MinceR what's that? [00:41] MinceR/fn what's that? [00:41] BaronVladimirHar https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/package-manager/winget/ [00:41] BaronVladimirHar/fn https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/package-manager/winget/ [00:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-docs.microsoft.com | Use the winget tool to install and manage applications | Microsoft Docs [00:41] TechrightsBot-tr/fn docs.microsoft.com | Use the winget tool to install and manage applications | Microsoft Docs [00:42] MinceR no, i'm not [00:42] MinceR/fn no, i'm not [00:42] MinceR i'm sure they've fucked it up without even looking at it [00:42] ornxka/lc arent they like.. 30 years behind lol [00:42] tr-bridge [ornxka/lc] arent they like.. 30 years behind lol [00:42] MinceR/fn i'm sure they've fucked it up without even looking at it [00:42] XRevan86 immibis: Ye are not making sense, how is someone else's licensing infringing on your copyright? [00:42] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] immibis: Ye are not making sense, how is someone else's licensing infringing on your copyright? [00:42] MinceR depends on whom you're comparing them to [00:42] MinceR/fn depends on whom you're comparing them to [00:42] MinceR gnome os is in the process of copying them :> [00:42] MinceR/fn gnome os is in the process of copying them :> [00:43] XRevan86 immibis: Copyleft means that ye cannot *take* other's code and do absolutely everything with it like making closed-source derivatives. [00:43] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] immibis: Copyleft means that ye cannot *take* other's code and do absolutely everything with it like making closed-source derivatives. [00:43] ornxka/lc i started using both windows and kde recently at the same time and realized they are basically identical in terms of UI [00:43] tr-bridge [ornxka/lc] i started using both windows and kde recently at the same time and realized they are basically identical in terms of UI [00:43] XRevan86 immibis: In contrast, ye cannot make derivatives of Microsoft EULA's code in any shape or form. It's straight up illegal to possess their source code. [00:43] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] immibis: In contrast, ye cannot make derivatives of Microsoft EULA's code in any shape or form. It's straight up illegal to possess their source code. [00:44] XRevan86 immibis: So please understand what all this stuff is about first and then judge. [00:44] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] immibis: So please understand what all this stuff is about first and then judge. [00:45] ornxka/lc its a real shame how linux DE stuff is now basically either "spend days tweaking your xmonad config after you learn haskell first" or "essentially identical to windows except nothing works" [00:45] tr-bridge [ornxka/lc] its a real shame how linux DE stuff is now basically either "spend days tweaking your xmonad config after you learn haskell first" or "essentially identical to windows except nothing works" [00:45] MinceR it's not really just that [00:45] MinceR/fn it's not really just that [00:45] MinceR though writing an fvwm config did take some effort [00:45] MinceR/fn though writing an fvwm config did take some effort [00:45] MinceR and if nothing works then that is indeed identical to windows [00:45] MinceR/fn and if nothing works then that is indeed identical to windows [00:45] ornxka/lc yeah thats pretty close to "tweaking your xmonad config after you learn haskell" [00:45] tr-bridge [ornxka/lc] yeah thats pretty close to "tweaking your xmonad config after you learn haskell" [00:46] MinceR fvwm config is a lot easier to learn than haskell though [00:46] MinceR/fn fvwm config is a lot easier to learn than haskell though [00:46] ornxka/lc i am moving to fvwm from dwm and i actually have spent more time on the fvwm config than i did on literally just writing the dwm patches i needed to get it to do what i want [00:46] tr-bridge [ornxka/lc] i am moving to fvwm from dwm and i actually have spent more time on the fvwm config than i did on literally just writing the dwm patches i needed to get it to do what i want [00:46] MinceR icewm works with minimal configuration, and is pretty usable [00:46] MinceR/fn icewm works with minimal configuration, and is pretty usable [00:46] ornxka/lc yeah i ended up going with icewm actually on the kde machine [00:47] tr-bridge [ornxka/lc] yeah i ended up going with icewm actually on the kde machine [00:47] ornxka/lc (the formerly kde machine, which is different from the one i am using fvwm on) [00:47] tr-bridge [ornxka/lc] (the formerly kde machine, which is different from the one i am using fvwm on) [00:48] BaronVladimirHar IBM manages to replace things with stuff that's even more convoluted and unreliable than a stack of patches on top of something developed in the 1980s. [00:48] BaronVladimirHar/fn IBM manages to replace things with stuff that's even more convoluted and unreliable than a stack of patches on top of something developed in the 1980s. [00:48] BaronVladimirHar It's just unbelievable how bad their stuff is. [00:48] BaronVladimirHar/fn It's just unbelievable how bad their stuff is. [00:49] MinceR part of that is because they believe that convoluted and unreliable is "modern" [00:49] MinceR/fn part of that is because they believe that convoluted and unreliable is "modern" [00:49] ornxka/lc i once heard somebody say that most programming work is just people generating work for other people without contributing to solving the problem at all [00:49] tr-bridge [ornxka/lc] i once heard somebody say that most programming work is just people generating work for other people without contributing to solving the problem at all [00:49] ornxka/lc ie, completely self-inflicted [00:49] tr-bridge [ornxka/lc] ie, completely self-inflicted [00:50] ornxka/lc i believe it 100% [00:50] tr-bridge [ornxka/lc] i believe it 100% [00:50] *uwuchan has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [00:50] immibis you may be thinking of "accidental complexity" [00:50] immibis/fn you may be thinking of "accidental complexity" [00:50] *asusbox (~rianne@haii6za73zabc.irc) has joined #techrights [00:50] *asusbox2 (~rianne@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:a465:f91b:557:2bf3) has joined #techrights [00:50] ornxka/lc yeah, i think thats it [00:50] tr-bridge [ornxka/lc] yeah, i think thats it [00:51] *rianne (~rianne@haii6za73zabc.irc) has joined #techrights [00:51] ornxka/lc i switched to dwm after awesomewm was using al lof my memory [00:51] tr-bridge [ornxka/lc] i switched to dwm after awesomewm was using al lof my memory [00:51] *rianne (~rianne@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:a465:f91b:557:2bf3) has joined #techrights [00:51] ornxka/lc and i couldnt be bothered figuring out what the problem was behind however many lines of code it is (they have written their own gui framework?) and a LUA interpreter [00:51] tr-bridge [ornxka/lc] and i couldnt be bothered figuring out what the problem was behind however many lines of code it is (they have written their own gui framework?) and a LUA interpreter [00:52] techrights-bot Why You Should Learn Linux on a #Chromebook http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151881 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why You Should Learn Linux on a Chromebook | Tux Machines [00:52] techrights-bot/fn Why You Should Learn Linux on a #Chromebook http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151881 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:52] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | Why You Should Learn Linux on a Chromebook | Tux Machines [00:52] ornxka/lc so i figured i was better off using something i could easily understand and modify myself, and after a bit of patching it did the same things i needed awesome to do in about 2k lines of c (of which maybe a hundred or two were my patches) [00:52] tr-bridge [ornxka/lc] so i figured i was better off using something i could easily understand and modify myself, and after a bit of patching it did the same things i needed awesome to do in about 2k lines of c (of which maybe a hundred or two were my patches) [00:52] superkuh I've been using gnome2/MATE since I switched to linux in 2004. But gtk itself underpinning the MATE desktop has gotten so bad the last 6 years that MATE is effectively broken in terms of File->Open dialogs. It's been fully GNOME'd despite attempts to prevent it. [00:52] tr-bridge [superkuh/tr] I've been using gnome2/MATE since I switched to linux in 2004. But gtk itself underpinning the MATE desktop has gotten so bad the last 6 years that MATE is effectively broken in terms of File->Open dialogs. It's been fully GNOME'd despite attempts to prevent it. [00:53] ornxka/lc >fully GNOME'd [00:53] tr-bridge [ornxka/lc] >fully GNOME'd [00:53] ornxka/lc truly a terrible fate [00:53] tr-bridge [ornxka/lc] truly a terrible fate [00:53] MinceR gnome2 was already a bad base to start with [00:53] MinceR/fn gnome2 was already a bad base to start with [00:54] MinceR gnome1 was so much better [00:54] MinceR/fn gnome1 was so much better [00:55] ornxka/lc i wonder sometimes like.. what does all that code even do [00:55] tr-bridge [ornxka/lc] i wonder sometimes like.. what does all that code even do [00:55] *liberty_box (~liberty@haii6za73zabc.irc) has joined #techrights [00:55] ornxka/lc if i could get dwm to do what awesome did in like 10% of the code, wtf was the rest for [00:55] tr-bridge [ornxka/lc] if i could get dwm to do what awesome did in like 10% of the code, wtf was the rest for [00:55] *rianne__ (~rianne@haii6za73zabc.irc) has joined #techrights [00:55] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [00:55] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [00:56] ornxka/lc does gnome really need ?,???,??? lines of code [00:56] tr-bridge [ornxka/lc] does gnome really need ?,???,??? lines of code [00:57] *rianne__ has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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[01:00] *tr_guest|26376 (~6ceafdb2@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [01:00] *tr_guest|26376 has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client) [01:01] jessicara quickest way to silence spam temporarily i guess [01:01] jessicara/fn quickest way to silence spam temporarily i guess [01:01] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:02] *asusbox has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:04] techrights-bot Links 3/6/2021: #Septor 2021.3, #OpenSUSE Leap 15.3, #NixOS 21.05, #Blender 2.93 LTS http://techrights.org/2021/06/02/blender-2-93-lts/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/02/blender-2-93-lts/ [01:04] techrights-bot/fn Links 3/6/2021: #Septor 2021.3, #OpenSUSE Leap 15.3, #NixOS 21.05, #Blender 2.93 LTS http://techrights.org/2021/06/02/blender-2-93-lts/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/02/blender-2-93-lts/ [01:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 3/6/2021: Septor 2021.3, OpenSUSE Leap 15.3, NixOS 21.05, Blender 2.93 LTS | Techrights [01:04] TechrightsBot-tr/fn techrights.org | Links 3/6/2021: Septor 2021.3, OpenSUSE Leap 15.3, NixOS 21.05, Blender 2.93 LTS | Techrights [01:04] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [01:04] *asusbox2 has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [01:05] immibis a bit hypocritical [01:05] immibis/fn a bit hypocritical [01:05] MinceR it's sad, but for most of it, it's too late to do anything [01:05] MinceR/fn it's sad, but for most of it, it's too late to do anything [01:07] techrights-bot #Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151884 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [01:07] techrights-bot/fn #Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151884 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:07] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [01:08] techrights-bot #Proprietary Software and Openwashing http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151883 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Software and Openwashing | Tux Machines [01:08] techrights-bot/fn #Proprietary Software and Openwashing http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151883 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:08] CrystalMath MinceR: if this is due to neoliberia, it's a policy violation and you can report it [01:08] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Software and Openwashing | Tux Machines [01:08] CrystalMath/fn MinceR: if this is due to neoliberia, it's a policy violation and you can report it [01:08] techrights-bot #Blender 2.93 LTS Released With Big Changes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151882 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:08] MinceR and accomplish nothing [01:08] techrights-bot/fn #Blender 2.93 LTS Released With Big Changes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151882 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Blender 2.93 LTS Released With Big Changes | Tux Machines [01:08] MinceR/fn and accomplish nothing [01:08] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | Blender 2.93 LTS Released With Big Changes | Tux Machines [01:08] MinceR most of it is on single # channels, which are closed per policy and you're supposed to go to the ## equivalent [01:08] MinceR/fn most of it is on single # channels, which are closed per policy and you're supposed to go to the ## equivalent [01:08] immibis CrystalMath: the channel is #freenode [01:08] immibis/fn CrystalMath: the channel is #freenode [01:08] CrystalMath immibis: oh heh, no, that did not move :P [01:08] CrystalMath/fn immibis: oh heh, no, that did not move :P [01:09] MinceR should have said so [01:09] MinceR/fn should have said so [01:09] CrystalMath but that one is also +z, the ops can see your messages [01:09] CrystalMath/fn but that one is also +z, the ops can see your messages [01:09] immibis but i've requested it many times and it has not been redirected, opened, or given to me [01:09] immibis/fn but i've requested it many times and it has not been redirected, opened, or given to me [01:09] CrystalMath lol! [01:09] CrystalMath/fn lol! [01:09] MinceR well, it's sad that freenode staff believes they don't have enough resources to moderate it properly [01:09] MinceR/fn well, it's sad that freenode staff believes they don't have enough resources to moderate it properly [01:09] MinceR not that it was better before [01:09] MinceR/fn not that it was better before [01:09] immibis CrystalMath: wait are you saying that a +mz channel is considered open, not closed? [01:09] immibis/fn CrystalMath: wait are you saying that a +mz channel is considered open, not closed? [01:09] CrystalMath immibis: idk [01:09] CrystalMath/fn immibis: idk [01:10] CrystalMath depends if it's normal [01:10] CrystalMath/fn depends if it's normal [01:10] CrystalMath like #ardour was always like that [01:10] CrystalMath/fn like #ardour was always like that [01:10] jessicara open would be slow voicing [01:10] jessicara/fn open would be slow voicing [01:10] CrystalMath then you say something to a bot [01:10] CrystalMath/fn then you say something to a bot [01:10] CrystalMath and it voices you [01:10] CrystalMath/fn and it voices you [01:10] immibis #freenode doesn't have that bot [01:10] immibis/fn #freenode doesn't have that bot [01:10] jessicara for a support-only channel though it does make sense to +mz [01:10] jessicara/fn for a support-only channel though it does make sense to +mz [01:10] jessicara less disruption of new people with no idea [01:10] jessicara/fn less disruption of new people with no idea [01:11] immibis so any channel moving to notfascistnode can just set +mz and then claim to be a support-only channel [01:11] immibis/fn so any channel moving to notfascistnode can just set +mz and then claim to be a support-only channel [01:11] jessicara as a general solution to all spamming.. no [01:11] jessicara/fn as a general solution to all spamming.. no [01:11] immibis and then it's ineligible to be stolen? [01:11] immibis/fn and then it's ineligible to be stolen? [01:12] CrystalMath immibis: it depends on if it's advertising some crappy other network [01:12] CrystalMath/fn immibis: it depends on if it's advertising some crappy other network [01:12] immibis the new policy says channels must remain open. Not that they can close as long as they don't advertise [01:12] immibis/fn the new policy says channels must remain open. Not that they can close as long as they don't advertise [01:12] CrystalMath a closed channel is simply one that doesn't intend to exist [01:12] CrystalMath/fn a closed channel is simply one that doesn't intend to exist [01:13] immibis so if the channel intends to exist as an advertisement it's not closed? [01:13] immibis/fn so if the channel intends to exist as an advertisement it's not closed? [01:14] rbraun ^^^^^^ [01:14] rbraun/fn ^^^^^^ [01:14] *mode_mz (~user@gateway/tor-sasl/vaio) has joined #techrights [01:16] BaronVladimirHar So I'm confused. [01:16] BaronVladimirHar/fn So I'm confused. [01:16] BaronVladimirHar After spamming Freenode users and playing nasty tricks, they now bridge Libera Chat into Freenode rooms? [01:16] BaronVladimirHar/fn After spamming Freenode users and playing nasty tricks, they now bridge Libera Chat into Freenode rooms? [01:17] schestowitz we seem to be getting spam and abuse from there [01:17] schestowitz/fn we seem to be getting spam and abuse from there [01:17] schestowitz hopefully just a temporary wave of "haters" [01:17] schestowitz/fn hopefully just a temporary wave of "haters" [01:17] schestowitz/fn so much for 'safe space' [01:17] schestowitz so much for 'safe space' [01:17] MinceR/fn it's unlikely to be temporary if that channel is opless [01:17] MinceR it's unlikely to be temporary if that channel is opless [01:17] superkuh The only people spamming were most likely third parties looking to cause chaos at a time of chaos. The format of the the spam was the same as bots have been using for years. [01:17] tr-bridge [superkuh/tr] The only people spamming were most likely third parties looking to cause chaos at a time of chaos. The format of the the spam was the same as bots have been using for years. [01:17] superkuh Attributing intentionality to it, from either "side" is probably the very intention of the spammers. [01:17] tr-bridge [superkuh/tr] Attributing intentionality to it, from either "side" is probably the very intention of the spammers. [01:18] schestowitz yeah, I know [01:18] schestowitz/fn yeah, I know [01:18] XRevan86 I see legitimate people writing from there too. [01:18] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] I see legitimate people writing from there too. [01:19] XRevan86 BaronVladimirHar: Who are "they"? [01:19] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] BaronVladimirHar: Who are "they"? [01:19] immibis BaronVladimirHar: almost like people are not a hivemind. Have you been diagnosed with autism by any chance? Autistic people sometimes don't realize that each person has their own separate mind from all the rest [01:19] immibis/fn BaronVladimirHar: almost like people are not a hivemind. Have you been diagnosed with autism by any chance? Autistic people sometimes don't realize that each person has their own separate mind from all the rest [01:22] BaronVladimirHar I thought hate was against the CoC. [01:22] BaronVladimirHar/fn I thought hate was against the CoC. [01:23] schestowitz depends in which direction it is directed [01:23] schestowitz/fn depends in which direction it is directed [01:24] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2019/11/10/cancel-the-linux-foundation/ [01:24] schestowitz/fn http://techrights.org/2019/11/10/cancel-the-linux-foundation/ [01:24] BaronVladimirHar Depending on which psychiatrist you asked over the years, no. Not autism, but ADHD, Borderline Personality, and Bipolar Disorder. [01:24] BaronVladimirHar/fn Depending on which psychiatrist you asked over the years, no. Not autism, but ADHD, Borderline Personality, and Bipolar Disorder. [01:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Linux Foundation Brought as Keynote Speakers People Vastly Worse Than Those Whom It Now Cancels for Purely Political Reasons | Techrights [01:24] TechrightsBot-tr/fn techrights.org | The Linux Foundation Brought as Keynote Speakers People Vastly Worse Than Those Whom It Now Cancels for Purely Political Reasons | Techrights [01:24] schestowitz you can say horrible things about all men [01:24] schestowitz/fn you can say horrible things about all men [01:24] BaronVladimirHar They don't know what they're dealing with so they come up with something and call it a day and then bill the patient's idiot parents. [01:24] BaronVladimirHar/fn They don't know what they're dealing with so they come up with something and call it a day and then bill the patient's idiot parents. [01:24] schestowitz or about all white people [01:24] schestowitz/fn or about all white people [01:24] schestowitz generalisation and deductions are OK [01:24] schestowitz/fn generalisation and deductions are OK [01:24] schestowitz inductions also [01:24] schestowitz/fn inductions also [01:25] BaronVladimirHar The only thing I've noticed about psychiatry is they haven't got a clue, and they don't need to because that's not why they exist. [01:25] BaronVladimirHar/fn The only thing I've noticed about psychiatry is they haven't got a clue, and they don't need to because that's not why they exist. [01:25] schestowitz but it depends who feels the hurt [01:25] schestowitz/fn but it depends who feels the hurt [01:25] BaronVladimirHar They exist to peel troublemakers off from the group, label them, and prevent them from getting the same opportunities. [01:25] BaronVladimirHar/fn They exist to peel troublemakers off from the group, label them, and prevent them from getting the same opportunities. [01:25] schestowitz maybe one day there will be cathophopbia [01:25] schestowitz/fn maybe one day there will be cathophopbia [01:25] schestowitz wherein you get banned by bashing the vatican [01:25] schestowitz/fn wherein you get banned by bashing the vatican [01:25] BaronVladimirHar That happened pretty openly in the Soviet Union. Less overtly here.... [01:25] BaronVladimirHar/fn That happened pretty openly in the Soviet Union. Less overtly here.... [01:26] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:26] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:26] BaronVladimirHar It's easier to read the psychiatrists than it is for them to read their patients. Like most doctors, your "course of treatment" changes to whatever company gave them some free classes or a nice dinner most recently. [01:26] BaronVladimirHar/fn It's easier to read the psychiatrists than it is for them to read their patients. Like most doctors, your "course of treatment" changes to whatever company gave them some free classes or a nice dinner most recently. [01:27] BaronVladimirHar I noticed a lot of "patent treadmill" stuff going on with psychiatric meds. [01:27] BaronVladimirHar/fn I noticed a lot of "patent treadmill" stuff going on with psychiatric meds. [01:27] XRevan86 Ariadne: https://fosshost.org/news/freenode-faq [01:27] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] Ariadne: https://fosshost.org/news/freenode-faq [01:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fosshost.org | Fosshost - Freenode FAQ [01:27] TechrightsBot-tr/fn fosshost.org | Fosshost - Freenode FAQ [01:28] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [01:28] BaronVladimirHar The truth with antipsychotics is that they have not meaningfully improved the situation since the 1980s, and they just come out with new ones (untested) to charge more money for. [01:28] BaronVladimirHar/fn The truth with antipsychotics is that they have not meaningfully improved the situation since the 1980s, and they just come out with new ones (untested) to charge more money for. [01:28] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [01:28] BaronVladimirHar People, being ignorant about the situation, go to fill the prescription and end up paying big bucks to be experimented on. [01:28] BaronVladimirHar/fn People, being ignorant about the situation, go to fill the prescription and end up paying big bucks to be experimented on. [01:28] schestowitz patent evergreening [01:28] schestowitz/fn patent evergreening [01:28] immibis BaronVladimirHar: the point is, do you realize that people other than you are not a hivemind? [01:28] immibis/fn BaronVladimirHar: the point is, do you realize that people other than you are not a hivemind? [01:29] Ariadne XRevan86: heh [01:29] tr-bridge [Ariadne/tr] XRevan86: heh [01:29] BaronVladimirHar They are, of course, to some extent. [01:29] BaronVladimirHar/fn They are, of course, to some extent. [01:29] BaronVladimirHar Community Standards, law, etc. don't come out of a void, and many individuals don't agree on anything close to the entirety of it. [01:29] BaronVladimirHar/fn Community Standards, law, etc. don't come out of a void, and many individuals don't agree on anything close to the entirety of it. [01:30] BaronVladimirHar The most vicious and psychopathic people tend to rise to the top and brutalize their critics and then they tend to react, as a group, by shutting up and just trying to stay out of the way. [01:30] BaronVladimirHar/fn The most vicious and psychopathic people tend to rise to the top and brutalize their critics and then they tend to react, as a group, by shutting up and just trying to stay out of the way. [01:30] immibis You said you were confused that "they" spam freenode users to move to libera, and "they" bridge their channels to libera [01:30] immibis/fn You said you were confused that "they" spam freenode users to move to libera, and "they" bridge their channels to libera [01:30] immibis Is your confusion resolved by realizing that it's a different "they" each time? [01:30] immibis/fn Is your confusion resolved by realizing that it's a different "they" each time? [01:32] BaronVladimirHar If we allege that "society" governs over me in my name, then we must assume I agreed to let an Illinois child murderer/rapist out for good behavior, to live in Chicago, after 26 years, due to "good behavior", and at the same time, I filed criminal charges against myself for creating a minor nuisance. [01:32] BaronVladimirHar/fn If we allege that "society" governs over me in my name, then we must assume I agreed to let an Illinois child murderer/rapist out for good behavior, to live in Chicago, after 26 years, due to "good behavior", and at the same time, I filed criminal charges against myself for creating a minor nuisance. [01:32] *rianne__ (~rianne@haii6za73zabc.irc) has joined #techrights [01:33] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [01:33] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [01:33] BaronVladimirHar Of course, this exposes the ridiculousness of the idea of "society". It's another lie they cram down your throat to make you think you have anything to do with this, with these people. These idiots. MinceR ^ [01:33] BaronVladimirHar/fn Of course, this exposes the ridiculousness of the idea of "society". It's another lie they cram down your throat to make you think you have anything to do with this, with these people. These idiots. MinceR ^ [01:33] *cubexyz has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [01:33] *Polsaker (~polsaker@donger/wielder/Polsaker) has joined #techrights [01:34] *liberty_box (~liberty@haii6za73zabc.irc) has joined #techrights [01:34] BaronVladimirHar Logically, if they don't have the resources to keep Class A Felons in prison for the rest of their life, they don't have the resources to stop and deal with a Class C Misdemeanor. [01:34] BaronVladimirHar/fn Logically, if they don't have the resources to keep Class A Felons in prison for the rest of their life, they don't have the resources to stop and deal with a Class C Misdemeanor. [01:34] BaronVladimirHar But the state is as random as it is stupid, and this would be your "hive mind", only it's criminal gangsters that float to the top and claim it's "the public" running things. [01:34] BaronVladimirHar/fn But the state is as random as it is stupid, and this would be your "hive mind", only it's criminal gangsters that float to the top and claim it's "the public" running things. [01:36] BaronVladimirHar Some would argue it's not really random at all. If the state can do whatever it wants, then you might be afraid of what it could do to you, even though it almost certainly won't catch and punish everything you do. [01:36] BaronVladimirHar/fn Some would argue it's not really random at all. If the state can do whatever it wants, then you might be afraid of what it could do to you, even though it almost certainly won't catch and punish everything you do. [01:36] immibis You said you were confused that "they" spam freenode users to move to libera, and "they" bridge their channels to libera [01:36] immibis/fn You said you were confused that "they" spam freenode users to move to libera, and "they" bridge their channels to libera [01:36] immibis Is your confusion resolved by realizing that it's a different "they" each time? [01:36] immibis/fn Is your confusion resolved by realizing that it's a different "they" each time? [01:36] BaronVladimirHar Libera Chat is a hive mind full of people who didn't feel comfortable in a community where they could be criticized. [01:36] BaronVladimirHar/fn Libera Chat is a hive mind full of people who didn't feel comfortable in a community where they could be criticized. [01:37] BaronVladimirHar So they made an "alternative" where they'll throw freethinkers out and set up a pillow fort. [01:37] BaronVladimirHar/fn So they made an "alternative" where they'll throw freethinkers out and set up a pillow fort. [01:37] *rbraun has quit (Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))) [01:37] immibis idk how you can claim libera is full of people who can't handle criticism, and also that libera is more censorious (i.e. gives more criticism) than freenode [01:37] immibis/fn idk how you can claim libera is full of people who can't handle criticism, and also that libera is more censorious (i.e. gives more criticism) than freenode [01:37] mjg59/lc Interesting that I was banned from this channel on the grounds of being critical of its contents [01:37] tr-bridge [mjg59/lc] Interesting that I was banned from this channel on the grounds of being critical of its contents [01:38] *cubexyz (~cubeman@maxhost.org) has joined #techrights [01:38] MinceR mjg59 is lying again, as usual [01:38] MinceR/fn mjg59 is lying again, as usual [01:38] BaronVladimirHar The people running the network are figuring out what nasty tricks they can pull. [01:38] BaronVladimirHar/fn The people running the network are figuring out what nasty tricks they can pull. [01:38] MinceR he was muted, not banned, and on the grounds of being here only to troll the channel, admittedly [01:38] MinceR/fn he was muted, not banned, and on the grounds of being here only to troll the channel, admittedly [01:38] BaronVladimirHar And there's mjg59_ pulling a ban evasion using a nasty trick instead of shutting the hell up. [01:38] BaronVladimirHar/fn And there's mjg59_ pulling a ban evasion using a nasty trick instead of shutting the hell up. [01:38] immibis mjg59: not only that, the baron here was talking about how the world would be better if people would use their guns on you [01:38] immibis/fn mjg59: not only that, the baron here was talking about how the world would be better if people would use their guns on you [01:38] MinceR XRevan86: please unbridge libera.chat if there's nobody there who can moderate it properly [01:38] MinceR/fn XRevan86: please unbridge libera.chat if there's nobody there who can moderate it properly [01:39] CrystalMath seconded [01:39] CrystalMath/fn seconded [01:39] tr-bridge [mjg59/lc] One individual's criticism is another's trolling [01:39] mjg59/lc One individual's criticism is another's trolling [01:39] BaronVladimirHar If there's some way to turn off the bridge, I'd suggest doing that. [01:39] BaronVladimirHar/fn If there's some way to turn off the bridge, I'd suggest doing that. [01:39] *rbraun (vaF3IrtE@gateway/shell/club.cc.cmu.edu/x-mbgbjftlzntyfool) has joined #techrights [01:39] XRevan86 MinceR: Apparently, superkuh cut off the only means to do so. [01:39] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: Apparently, superkuh cut off the only means to do so. [01:39] immibis so why was this guy actually banned, if it wasn't for criticizing the channel's contents? [01:39] immibis/fn so why was this guy actually banned, if it wasn't for criticizing the channel's contents? [01:39] MinceR immibis: people can (and often do) criticize other people in ways they do not tolerate being criticized [01:39] MinceR/fn immibis: people can (and often do) criticize other people in ways they do not tolerate being criticized [01:39] MinceR Xrevan86: please remove that leg of the bridge then [01:39] MinceR/fn Xrevan86: please remove that leg of the bridge then [01:40] BaronVladimirHar Derailing the topics, accusing anyone who didn't agree with him of being a pedophile, etc. etc. [01:40] BaronVladimirHar/fn Derailing the topics, accusing anyone who didn't agree with him of being a pedophile, etc. etc. [01:40] mjg59/lc Literally didn't do that [01:40] tr-bridge [mjg59/lc] Literally didn't do that [01:40] *bridge has quit (connection closed) [01:40] *tr-bridge has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [01:40] BaronVladimirHar You called me one because I opposed your Cancel RMS ShitHub project, which peaked a long time ago. [01:40] immibis so basically he was banned for exercising his free speech? [01:41] CrystalMath yeah because we have to listen to how techrights is bad all day [01:41] CrystalMath what's next? if you don't want viagra ads every 3 seconds, you're anti-free-speech [01:41] BaronVladimirHar Running around calling people pedophiles isn't really acceptable unless you can prove it. [01:41] *tr-bridge (~tr-bridge@meowr.ru) has joined #techrights [01:42] *bridge (~bridge@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #techrights [01:42] *irc.techrights.org gives channel operator status to bridge [01:42] CrystalMath is this thing normalized now? [01:42] superkuh It cut it off? What? [01:42] CrystalMath/fn is this thing normalized now? [01:42] tr-bridge [superkuh/tr] It cut it off? What? [01:42] BaronVladimirHar He said I must be because RMS said something about a cartoon somewhere along the way. [01:42] BaronVladimirHar/fn He said I must be because RMS said something about a cartoon somewhere along the way. [01:42] superkuh Let's be clear here. I did nothing but join and empty channel, get made op, and refuse to register it because it'd be rude. [01:42] tr-bridge [superkuh/tr] Let's be clear here. I did nothing but join and empty channel, get made op, and refuse to register it because it'd be rude. [01:42] XRevan86 Love it when I need to fix a mistake in the configuration and trying to get a cat off the keyboard at the same time. [01:42] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] Love it when I need to fix a mistake in the configuration and trying to get a cat off the keyboard at the same time. [01:42] immibis i thought this channel was in favour of free speech [01:42] immibis/fn i thought this channel was in favour of free speech [01:42] MinceR lol [01:42] MinceR/fn lol [01:42] XRevan86 Makes me sweaty in no time. [01:42] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] Makes me sweaty in no time. [01:43] MinceR i'm guessing "free speech" means an impenetrable flood of spam if someone who runs enough bots decides it is [01:43] MinceR/fn i'm guessing "free speech" means an impenetrable flood of spam if someone who runs enough bots decides it is [01:43] immibis free speech means being allowed to state your opinion [01:43] immibis/fn free speech means being allowed to state your opinion [01:43] CrystalMath immibis: and he did [01:43] CrystalMath/fn immibis: and he did [01:43] CrystalMath we all know it [01:43] CrystalMath/fn we all know it [01:44] MinceR being allowed to state your opinion is not incompatible with moderating a channel [01:44] MinceR/fn being allowed to state your opinion is not incompatible with moderating a channel [01:44] CrystalMath heck i even agreed with some parts [01:44] CrystalMath/fn heck i even agreed with some parts [01:44] XRevan86 Anyway, that's just sad. When superkuh said he ruined the channel, it was a matter of time. [01:44] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] Anyway, that's just sad. When superkuh said he ruined the channel, it was a matter of time. [01:44] immibis it's incompatible with banning people for stating their opinion [01:44] immibis/fn it's incompatible with banning people for stating their opinion [01:44] CrystalMath/fn you don't need neoliberia, you have irc.techrights.org :) [01:44] CrystalMath you don't need neoliberia, you have irc.techrights.org :) [01:44] MinceR the lc channel could in theory be fixed, though [01:44] MinceR/fn the lc channel could in theory be fixed, though [01:44] *mjg59_ (~68f41a50@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [01:44] XRevan86 MinceR: With staff intervention? [01:44] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: With staff intervention? [01:45] MinceR most likely [01:45] MinceR/fn most likely [01:45] XRevan86 I'm sure schestowitz will love to write to the staff. [01:45] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] I'm sure schestowitz will love to write to the staff. [01:45] mjg59_ 01:42 < BaronVladimirHar/fn> He said I must be because RMS said something about a cartoon somewhere along the way. [01:45] MinceR it's also possible if everyone leaves it, but that's unlikely [01:45] MinceR/fn it's also possible if everyone leaves it, but that's unlikely [01:45] tr-bridge [mjg59_/tr] 01:42 < BaronVladimirHar/fn> He said I must be because RMS said something about a cartoon somewhere along the way. [01:45] mjg59_ Literally did not do that [01:45] tr-bridge [mjg59_/tr] Literally did not do that [01:45] immibis yes please call big daddy government to get rid of the people who have opinions i don't like [01:45] immibis/fn yes please call big daddy government to get rid of the people who have opinions i don't like [01:47] *mjg59_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:48] MinceR libera.chat staff is now "big government"? [01:48] MinceR/fn libera.chat staff is now "big government"? [01:48] BaronVladimirHar/fn If it's going to be bot harassment and Matthew fucking Garrett, it would be better to cut the link. [01:48] BaronVladimirHar If it's going to be bot harassment and Matthew fucking Garrett, it would be better to cut the link. [01:48] *MinceR sets ban on m:*!*@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc [01:48] BaronVladimirHar It's not like anyone should have a hard time opening Freenode in a tab. [01:48] BaronVladimirHar/fn It's not like anyone should have a hard time opening Freenode in a tab. [01:48] *mjg59_ (~68f41a50@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [01:49] MinceR or someone could just register a new channel under a new name [01:49] MinceR/fn or someone could just register a new channel under a new name [01:49] MinceR i don't really care [01:49] MinceR/fn i don't really care [01:49] immibis the guy sent like 5 messages and for this we are trying to cancel him [01:49] immibis/fn the guy sent like 5 messages and for this we are trying to cancel him [01:49] MinceR/fn we already have a backup network [01:49] MinceR we already have a backup network [01:49] MinceR which "guy"? [01:49] MinceR/fn which "guy"? [01:49] BaronVladimirHar What it looks like to me is that the bridge makes it hard to ignore someone because it puts everyone over there under tr-bridge and you'll need to ignore EVERYONE. [01:49] BaronVladimirHar/fn What it looks like to me is that the bridge makes it hard to ignore someone because it puts everyone over there under tr-bridge and you'll need to ignore EVERYONE. [01:50] MinceR/fn relaymsg might help with that, if you're on the other network which supports it and your client doesn't mind having a / in the nick of the ignore mask [01:50] MinceR relaymsg might help with that, if you're on the other network which supports it and your client doesn't mind having a / in the nick of the ignore mask [01:51] immibis MinceR: mjg59_ obviously [01:51] immibis/fn MinceR: mjg59_ obviously [01:51] MinceR lol [01:51] MinceR/fn lol [01:51] *mjg59_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:51] MinceR that guy sent so many messages i stopped trying to find the most incriminating ones [01:51] MinceR/fn that guy sent so many messages i stopped trying to find the most incriminating ones [01:51] MinceR also, we're not trying to cancel him [01:51] MinceR/fn also, we're not trying to cancel him [01:52] MinceR we're trying to keep him from interfering with discussion here [01:52] MinceR/fn we're trying to keep him from interfering with discussion here [01:52] BaronVladimirHar He started rapid fire sending me crazy shit over PM. [01:52] BaronVladimirHar/fn He started rapid fire sending me crazy shit over PM. [01:52] immibis i see how cancel culture is in this channel. You accuse him of something, he defends himself, you get him fired from this channel [01:52] immibis/fn i see how cancel culture is in this channel. You accuse him of something, he defends himself, you get him fired from this channel [01:52] MinceR we couldn't cancel him if we wanted to [01:52] MinceR/fn we couldn't cancel him if we wanted to [01:52] MinceR immibis: you haven't seen the issue, except for a tiny fraction [01:52] MinceR/fn immibis: you haven't seen the issue, except for a tiny fraction [01:52] MinceR the channel logs are public though, so you can look it up if you cared [01:52] MinceR/fn the channel logs are public though, so you can look it up if you cared [01:52] MinceR we couldn't cancel him if we wanted to -- his employers want him to do this [01:52] MinceR/fn we couldn't cancel him if we wanted to -- his employers want him to do this [01:53] immibis i've seen an attempt at cancelling. Because his "employer" wouldn't cooperate with the cancel, you cancelled his whole "employer" [01:53] immibis/fn i've seen an attempt at cancelling. Because his "employer" wouldn't cooperate with the cancel, you cancelled his whole "employer" [01:53] MinceR that's an interesting idea [01:53] MinceR/fn that's an interesting idea [01:53] immibis the "employer" being the network in this case [01:53] immibis/fn the "employer" being the network in this case [01:53] MinceR so you're saying that we fired the first shot, and then microsoft and ibm used their time machine, went back in time, and committed their crimes to retaliate? [01:53] MinceR/fn so you're saying that we fired the first shot, and then microsoft and ibm used their time machine, went back in time, and committed their crimes to retaliate? [01:54] MinceR is that why microsoft is attempting to lock us out of our own property? [01:54] MinceR/fn is that why microsoft is attempting to lock us out of our own property? [01:54] MinceR is that why ibm is attempting to kill off free unixes? [01:54] MinceR/fn is that why ibm is attempting to kill off free unixes? [01:54] immibis windows isn't your property [01:54] immibis/fn windows isn't your property [01:54] MinceR/fn my PC-s are my property [01:54] MinceR my PC-s are my property [01:55] *mjg59_ (68f41a50@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.104.244.26.80) has joined #techrights [01:55] mjg59_ 01:52 < BaronVladimirHar/fn> He started rapid fire sending me crazy shit over PM. [01:55] mjg59_/fn 01:52 < BaronVladimirHar/fn> He started rapid fire sending me crazy shit over PM. [01:55] immibis and windows isn't [01:55] immibis/fn and windows isn't [01:55] mjg59_ This is literally a lie [01:55] mjg59_/fn This is literally a lie [01:55] mjg59_ Ask him for the logs [01:55] mjg59_/fn Ask him for the logs [01:55] immibis mjg59_: watch out, you're getting cancelled! [01:55] immibis/fn mjg59_: watch out, you're getting cancelled! [01:55] *MinceR sets mode +q #techrights *!68f41a50@* [01:55] *mjg59_ has quit (Client Quit) [01:55] MinceR mjg59_: the next time you evade a mute, you're going to be banned [01:55] MinceR/fn mjg59_: the next time you evade a mute, you're going to be banned [01:55] immibis see. cancelled [01:55] immibis/fn see. cancelled [01:55] immibis I thought we were against cancel culture [01:55] immibis/fn I thought we were against cancel culture [01:55] MinceR immibis: look up what it means, we'll wait. [01:55] MinceR/fn immibis: look up what it means, we'll wait. [01:56] BaronVladimirHar Matrix gets rid of the logs when you exit a "room" and ignore someone. [01:56] BaronVladimirHar/fn Matrix gets rid of the logs when you exit a "room" and ignore someone. [01:56] MinceR immibis: who are "you", microsoft? [01:56] MinceR/fn immibis: who are "you", microsoft? [01:56] immibis "Cancel culture or call-out culture is a modern form of ostracism in which someone is thrust out of social or professional circles whether it be online, on social media, or in person" [01:56] immibis/fn "Cancel culture or call-out culture is a modern form of ostracism in which someone is thrust out of social or professional circles whether it be online, on social media, or in person" [01:56] MinceR we can't thrust mjg out of social or professional circles [01:56] MinceR/fn we can't thrust mjg out of social or professional circles [01:57] immibis this is a social circle [01:57] immibis/fn this is a social circle [01:57] MinceR his social or professional circles are owned by microsoft and ibm [01:57] MinceR/fn his social or professional circles are owned by microsoft and ibm [01:57] MinceR this is not his social circle, never was [01:57] MinceR/fn this is not his social circle, never was [01:57] MinceR he made a name for himself trying (and to some extent succeeding) to manipulate Linux to work in line with microsoft's wishes [01:57] MinceR/fn he made a name for himself trying (and to some extent succeeding) to manipulate Linux to work in line with microsoft's wishes [01:58] MinceR and then attempting to cancel RMS and the board of the FSF [01:58] MinceR/fn and then attempting to cancel RMS and the board of the FSF [01:58] immibis it doesn't say "their" social or professional circle [01:58] immibis/fn it doesn't say "their" social or professional circle [01:58] MinceR/fn if you miss his bullshit so much, go talk to him on twitter [01:58] MinceR if you miss his bullshit so much, go talk to him on twitter [01:58] MinceR or start a channel for him [01:58] MinceR/fn or start a channel for him [01:59] immibis that's what they told the cancelled people on twitter. "just start your own social media with your own payment network" [01:59] immibis/fn that's what they told the cancelled people on twitter. "just start your own social media with your own payment network" [01:59] MinceR that might be what they told people on twitter, but that's not what i said [01:59] MinceR/fn that might be what they told people on twitter, but that's not what i said ● Jun 03 [02:00] immibis it is, you said "just start your own irc channel" [02:00] immibis/fn it is, you said "just start your own irc channel" [02:00] MinceR starting your own irc channel is literally one command [02:00] MinceR/fn starting your own irc channel is literally one command [02:00] MinceR and it works on this network [02:00] MinceR/fn and it works on this network [02:00] MinceR there's no obligation for you to do your worship of mjg here, or for us to listen to it [02:00] MinceR/fn there's no obligation for you to do your worship of mjg here, or for us to listen to it [02:01] MinceR there is no "right to have an audience" [02:01] MinceR/fn there is no "right to have an audience" [02:01] *techrights-ipfs (~techright@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:c7f2:e919:b6dc:6252) has joined #techrights [02:02] immibis i'm just saying, it's cancel culture, is all. I thought we opposed that [02:02] immibis/fn i'm just saying, it's cancel culture, is all. I thought we opposed that [02:02] MinceR no, it is not [02:02] MinceR/fn no, it is not [02:02] immibis why do we oppose cancel culture if there's no right to not be cancelled? [02:02] immibis/fn why do we oppose cancel culture if there's no right to not be cancelled? [02:15] samiamsam there is good and bad cancel culture [02:15] samiamsam/fn there is good and bad cancel culture [02:16] samiamsam cancelling fascists is good [02:16] samiamsam/fn cancelling fascists is good [02:18] XRevan86 https://api.theins.ru/images/LWOZ3Z5RcmanpbG75z5YVXsY1o8wmyLZeSgtpWHO0SM/rs:auto:877:579:0:0/dpr:2/q:90/bG9jYWw6L3B1Ymxp/Yy9zdG9yYWdlL3Bv/c3QvMjM5NDM3L2Zp/bGUtYjZkZmJlZjE1/OWQ4MTYwZmY3ZTQ2/ODU3NDE3MmU0NGUu/cG5n.jpg [02:18] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] https://api.theins.ru/images/LWOZ3Z5RcmanpbG75z5YVXsY1o8wmyLZeSgtpWHO0SM/rs:auto:877:579:0:0/dpr:2/q:90/bG9jYWw6L3B1Ymxp/Yy9zdG9yYWdlL3Bv/c3QvMjM5NDM3L2Zp/bGUtYjZkZmJlZjE1/OWQ4MTYwZmY3ZTQ2/ODU3NDE3MmU0NGUu/cG5n.jpg [02:18] samiamsam internet mobs gathered by some viral embarrassment (maybe fabricated or a distortion) are bad [02:18] samiamsam/fn internet mobs gathered by some viral embarrassment (maybe fabricated or a distortion) are bad [02:18] XRevan86 samiamsam: Since this is such a broad brush, what to do with this ethnic Jew who is a Benito Mussolini fan? :) [02:18] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] samiamsam: Since this is such a broad brush, what to do with this ethnic Jew who is a Benito Mussolini fan? :) [02:19] MinceR did someone say jews could not be fascists? [02:19] MinceR/fn did someone say jews could not be fascists? [02:20] XRevan86 MinceR: I should've waited for such argument to be made? [02:20] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: I should've waited for such argument to be made? [02:20] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 0 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 0 swarm size (avg): 236.94 [02:20] techrights-ipfs/fn IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 0 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 0 swarm size (avg): 236.94 [02:21] XRevan86 by the way, this guy is immune on YouTube [02:21] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] by the way, this guy is immune on YouTube [02:21] XRevan86 some people just have a platform no matter what [02:21] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] some people just have a platform no matter what [02:22] XRevan86 and an occasional Bionicle meme doesn't justify that [02:22] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] and an occasional Bionicle meme doesn't justify that [02:22] samiamsam XRevan86: i don't know who that is [02:22] samiamsam/fn XRevan86: i don't know who that is [02:22] schestowitz had to restart the gemini and ipfs machines [02:22] schestowitz/fn had to restart the gemini and ipfs machines [02:22] schestowitz some home network issues tonight [02:22] schestowitz/fn some home network issues tonight [02:23] XRevan86 samiamsam: I outlined the important aspect, but if ye must know, this is Vladimir Solovyev [02:23] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] samiamsam: I outlined the important aspect, but if ye must know, this is Vladimir Solovyev [02:23] samiamsam Vladimir Rudolfovich Solovyov[a] (Russian: , born October 20, 1963) is a Russian high-profile propagandist,[1][2][3][4] television and radio host. [02:23] samiamsam/fn Vladimir Rudolfovich Solovyov[a] (Russian: , born October 20, 1963) is a Russian high-profile propagandist,[1][2][3][4] television and radio host. [02:23] XRevan86 The richest TV persona in Russia [02:23] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] The richest TV persona in Russia [02:24] XRevan86 an Italian resident [02:24] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] an Italian resident [02:24] XRevan86 and a complete loon [02:24] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] and a complete loon [02:24] XRevan86 (totally in a good sense, this is not defamation) [02:24] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] (totally in a good sense, this is not defamation) [02:24] samiamsam i have the greatest possible contempt for people like that [02:24] samiamsam/fn i have the greatest possible contempt for people like that [02:26] samiamsam What is TR? [02:26] samiamsam/fn What is TR? [02:26] XRevan86 Tech Rights, get it? [02:26] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] Tech Rights, get it? [02:27] samiamsam Oh. OK. What's it bridging to? [02:27] samiamsam/fn Oh. OK. What's it bridging to? [02:27] XRevan86 irc.techrights.org [02:27] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] irc.techrights.org [02:27] samiamsam ah. nice. [02:27] samiamsam/fn ah. nice. [02:27] *samiamsam (~d@c6g3yubdm3bts.irc) has joined #techrights [02:27] XRevan86 techrights at techrights, the techrightiest place there is [02:27] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] techrights at techrights, the techrightiest place there is [02:28] *QazYLIoym (~QazYLIoym@pcd588241.netvigator.com) has joined #techrights [02:28] QazYLIoym Greatt job, AndLrew Leey. [02:28] QazYLIoym/fn Greatt job, AndLrew Leey. 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[02:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ FreeNode: Wednesday, June 02, 2021 [02:40] TechrightsBot-tr/fn techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ FreeNode: Wednesday, June 02, 2021 [02:42] techrights-bot *** *** Yesterday's bulletin ready. http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-06-02.txt [02:42] techrights-bot/fn *** *** Yesterday's bulletin ready. http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-06-02.txt [02:47] *is0ke3 (~is0ke3@unaffiliated/isokee) has joined #techrights ● Jun 03 [03:05] techrights-ipfs Gemini requests since start of month: 15781 total Total pages: 35756 Active: active (running) since Thu 2021-06-03 01:17:05 BST; 1h 48min ago [03:05] techrights-ipfs/fn Gemini requests since start of month: 15781 total Total pages: 35756 Active: active (running) since Thu 2021-06-03 01:17:05 BST; 1h 48min ago [03:06] techrights-ipfs IPFS local node stats (past 23 hours) calculated. 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") [04:59] *Polsaker has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) ● Jun 03 [05:17] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@76-234-138-224.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) has left #techrights [05:18] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 21.00 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 81.36 swarm size (avg): 237.09 [05:18] techrights-ipfs/fn IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 21.00 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 81.36 swarm size (avg): 237.09 [05:22] *stormchaser3000 (~stormchas@unaffiliated/stormchaser3000) has joined #techrights [05:22] stormchaser3000/fn everyone on here probably knows already, but did anyone see that the GCC project no longer requires contributed code to be signed over to the FSF? [05:22] stormchaser3000 everyone on here probably knows already, but did anyone see that the GCC project no longer requires contributed code to be signed over to the FSF? [05:23] MinceR indeed [05:23] MinceR/fn indeed [05:23] stormchaser3000 figured as much [05:23] stormchaser3000/fn figured as much [05:23] stormchaser3000 just thought I would mention it :) [05:23] stormchaser3000/fn just thought I would mention it :) [05:25] stormchaser3000 ugh... this division is destroying everything it touches [05:25] stormchaser3000/fn ugh... this division is destroying everything it touches [05:26] stormchaser3000 if developers could pull their code out of gcc because they didn't assign their copyright to the FSF, that woudl be a disaster [05:26] stormchaser3000/fn if developers could pull their code out of gcc because they didn't assign their copyright to the FSF, that woudl be a disaster [05:26] stormchaser3000/fn similar to that Linux kernel situation from a few years ago [05:26] stormchaser3000 similar to that Linux kernel situation from a few years ago [05:26] MinceR can they really do that? [05:26] MinceR/fn can they really do that? [05:26] stormchaser3000 I don't see why not if they own the copyright [05:26] stormchaser3000/fn I don't see why not if they own the copyright [05:27] MinceR because others already have a license from them [05:27] MinceR/fn because others already have a license from them [05:27] stormchaser3000 they may not be able to prevent others from sharing the code, but I think they could pull it out of the main project... I don't know... I would have to ask a lawyer [05:27] stormchaser3000/fn they may not be able to prevent others from sharing the code, but I think they could pull it out of the main project... I don't know... I would have to ask a lawyer [05:28] MinceR the GPLv3 even says the rights granted under it are irrevocable, though i don't know how that holds up against various legal systems [05:28] MinceR/fn the GPLv3 even says the rights granted under it are irrevocable, though i don't know how that holds up against various legal systems [05:28] stormchaser3000 I don't know either [05:28] stormchaser3000/fn I don't know either [05:29] MinceR/fn in any case, most free software projects don't have a CLA and afaik some (like upstart and canonical's unity) were killed by having a CLA [05:29] MinceR in any case, most free software projects don't have a CLA and afaik some (like upstart and canonical's unity) were killed by having a CLA [05:29] MinceR (and thus making developers not want to contribute) [05:29] MinceR/fn (and thus making developers not want to contribute) [05:29] stormchaser3000 fair point [05:29] stormchaser3000/fn fair point [05:33] *stormchaser3000 has quit (Quit: Leaving) [05:49] *gustaf (~gerikson@165.227.165.91) has joined #techrights ● Jun 03 [06:18] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.51 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 42.53 swarm size (avg): 237.12 [06:18] techrights-ipfs/fn IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.51 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 42.53 swarm size (avg): 237.12 [06:18] *oarion7 (anonymous@gateway/vpn/airvpn/oarion7) has joined #techrights [06:54] schestowitz wow, this is really awful; one of my machines cannot connect to the network anymore... and doesn't specify a proper reason [06:54] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] wow, this is really awful; one of my machines cannot connect to the network anymore... and doesn't specify a proper reason [06:54] schestowitz a couple more machines had this issue, but they reconnected later... this one too reconnected for 20 more minutes, then lost the connection again [06:54] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] a couple more machines had this issue, but they reconnected later... this one too reconnected for 20 more minutes, then lost the connection again [06:55] schestowitz not sure what to try at this stage [06:55] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] not sure what to try at this stage ● Jun 03 [07:01] *oarion7 has quit (Quit: Running IRC on a charmed medieval abacus.) 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At least IBM secured a contract to keep some of their employees employed." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/16nprIQd#replies [08:55] techrights-bot/fn "Instead of talking so much cr-p imagine just getting fired. At least IBM secured a contract to keep some of their employees employed." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/16nprIQd#replies [08:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Over - post regarding IBM layoffs [08:56] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.thelayoff.com | Over - post regarding IBM layoffs [08:56] techrights-bot "Why can't young people of color learn rudimentary skills to perform their jobs? Is the old white guy preventing them from learning the basics? You are racist bruh" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b8hM7EK#replies [08:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Why would IBM need to layoff massively? Droves of people are leaving on their own! - post regarding IBM layoffs [08:56] techrights-bot/fn "Why can't young people of color learn rudimentary skills to perform their jobs? Is the old white guy preventing them from learning the basics? You are racist bruh" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b8hM7EK#replies [08:56] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.thelayoff.com | Why would IBM need to layoff massively? Droves of people are leaving on their own! - post regarding IBM layoffs [08:56] techrights-bot #Techrights Bulletin for Wednesday, June 02, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [08:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives [08:56] techrights-bot/fn #Techrights Bulletin for Wednesday, June 02, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [08:56] TechrightsBot-tr/fn techrights.org | Bulletin Archives [08:57] techrights-bot #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [08:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index [08:57] techrights-bot/fn #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [08:57] TechrightsBot-tr/fn techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index [08:57] techrights-bot #PopOS 21.04 Beta lets you try out the new COSMIC desktop for System76s Linux distritbution http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151885 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [08:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Pop!_OS 21.04 Beta lets you try out the new COSMIC desktop for System76s Linux distritbution | Tux Machines [08:57] techrights-bot/fn #PopOS 21.04 Beta lets you try out the new COSMIC desktop for System76s Linux distritbution http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151885 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [08:57] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | Pop!_OS 21.04 Beta lets you try out the new COSMIC desktop for System76s Linux distritbution | Tux Machines ● Jun 03 [09:02] techrights-bot Lots of work on barrier and synergy today, connecting 6 laptops over the network to improve efficiency and workspace at home. Old laptops, but each has its own computation unit. Better than one overpriced laptop and a lot cheaper too. [09:02] techrights-bot/fn Lots of work on barrier and synergy today, connecting 6 laptops over the network to improve efficiency and workspace at home. Old laptops, but each has its own computation unit. Better than one overpriced laptop and a lot cheaper too. [09:03] techrights-bot NEWS #uniToronto Simple use of Let's Encrypt on #OpenBSD is pleasantly straightforward (as of 6.8 https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/unix/OpenBSDNiceLetsEncrypt [09:03] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #uniToronto Simple use of Let's Encrypt on #OpenBSD is pleasantly straightforward (as of 6.8 https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/unix/OpenBSDNiceLetsEncrypt [09:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-utcc.utoronto.ca | Chris's Wiki :: blog/unix/OpenBSDNiceLetsEncrypt [09:03] TechrightsBot-tr/fn utcc.utoronto.ca | Chris's Wiki :: blog/unix/OpenBSDNiceLetsEncrypt [09:03] techrights-bot NEWS #GiovanniCollazo Logging is important https://gcollazo.com/logging-is-important/ [09:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gcollazo.com | Logging is important Giovanni Collazo [09:03] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #GiovanniCollazo Logging is important https://gcollazo.com/logging-is-important/ [09:04] TechrightsBot-tr/fn gcollazo.com | Logging is important Giovanni Collazo [09:04] immibis cancelling fascists is good <-- everyone thinks the people they're cancelling are bad people [09:04] immibis/fn cancelling fascists is good <-- everyone thinks the people they're cancelling are bad people [09:04] techrights-bot #mozilla #firefox deleted from one more laptop and replaced with #netsurf (good enough to access the site I need and care for). #gnu #linux #xfce4 [09:04] techrights-bot/fn #mozilla #firefox deleted from one more laptop and replaced with #netsurf (good enough to access the site I need and care for). #gnu #linux #xfce4 [09:04] alextee[m] the act of cancelling is fascist in itself lol [09:04] alextee[m]/fn the act of cancelling is fascist in itself lol [09:05] immibis alextee[m]: some guy got cancelled from this channel [09:05] immibis/fn alextee[m]: some guy got cancelled from this channel [09:05] alextee[m] iTs GoOd WhEn We Do It [09:05] alextee[m]/fn iTs GoOd WhEn We Do It [09:05] immibis for having the wrong opinions [09:05] immibis/fn for having the wrong opinions [09:05] schestowitz who? [09:05] schestowitz/fn who? [09:06] immibis mjg59_. And MinceR is justifying it by saying "this isn't a social circle". seems rather hypocritical [09:06] immibis/fn mjg59_. And MinceR is justifying it by saying "this isn't a social circle". seems rather hypocritical [09:06] schestowitz no, not the reason [09:06] schestowitz/fn no, not the reason [09:06] schestowitz he's not canceled [09:06] schestowitz/fn he's not canceled [09:06] schestowitz he's a saboteur whose sole goal is to kill the site [09:06] schestowitz/fn he's a saboteur whose sole goal is to kill the site [09:06] schestowitz he's inject sex into the channel [09:06] schestowitz/fn he's inject sex into the channel [09:06] schestowitz and then shout, RAPE! [09:06] schestowitz/fn and then shout, RAPE! [09:06] schestowitz it's worse than a troll [09:06] schestowitz/fn it's worse than a troll [09:07] immibis is that not also free speech? [09:07] immibis/fn is that not also free speech? [09:07] schestowitz no [09:07] schestowitz/fn no [09:07] schestowitz that's sabotage [09:07] schestowitz/fn that's sabotage [09:07] immibis why is it not free speech? [09:07] immibis/fn why is it not free speech? [09:07] schestowitz you need to look it up [09:07] schestowitz/fn you need to look it up [09:07] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/03/05/google-funded-trolls/ [09:07] schestowitz/fn http://techrights.org/2021/03/05/google-funded-trolls/ [09:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Professional Troll Matthew Garrett Spreads Libel, Defamation and Slander About the Free Software Community to Entertain Microsoft and Friends | Techrights [09:07] TechrightsBot-tr/fn techrights.org | Professional Troll Matthew Garrett Spreads Libel, Defamation and Slander About the Free Software Community to Entertain Microsoft and Friends | Techrights [09:08] schestowitz if I come to a store and shout at the clerk "FUCK ME!" [09:08] schestowitz/fn if I come to a store and shout at the clerk "FUCK ME!" [09:08] schestowitz Is that free speech? [09:08] schestowitz/fn Is that free speech? [09:08] schestowitz Or am I breaking some key rules? [09:08] schestowitz/fn Or am I breaking some key rules? [09:08] schestowitz How about, "I'm gonna kill you!" [09:08] schestowitz/fn How about, "I'm gonna kill you!" [09:09] schestowitz he was NOT cancelled for his "views" [09:09] schestowitz/fn he was NOT cancelled for his "views" [09:09] schestowitz not even canceled, just muted [09:09] schestowitz/fn not even canceled, just muted [09:09] schestowitz for attempting to do nothing but cause disruption and defame peoplee [09:09] schestowitz/fn for attempting to do nothing but cause disruption and defame peoplee [09:10] schestowitz also inciting people to try to get the site deplatformed [09:10] schestowitz/fn also inciting people to try to get the site deplatformed [09:10] schestowitz he's a real slime of a person [09:10] schestowitz/fn he's a real slime of a person [09:11] techrights-bot NEWS #Rachel Please don't count outages (or SEVs, or whatever) https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2021/06/01/count/ [09:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rachelbythebay.com | Please don't count outages (or SEVs, or whatever) [09:11] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #Rachel Please don't count outages (or SEVs, or whatever) https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2021/06/01/count/ [09:11] TechrightsBot-tr/fn rachelbythebay.com | Please don't count outages (or SEVs, or whatever) [09:12] techrights-bot NEWS #JeffGeerling #Hardware The #Apple M1 compiles Linux 30% faster than my Intel i9 https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2021/apple-m1-compiles-linux-30-faster-my-intel-i9 [09:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jeffgeerling.com | The Apple M1 compiles Linux 30% faster than my Intel i9 | Jeff Geerling [09:12] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #JeffGeerling #Hardware The #Apple M1 compiles Linux 30% faster than my Intel i9 https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2021/apple-m1-compiles-linux-30-faster-my-intel-i9 [09:12] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.jeffgeerling.com | The Apple M1 compiles Linux 30% faster than my Intel i9 | Jeff Geerling [09:14] techrights-bot/fn #IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, June 02, 2021 http://techrights.org/2021/06/03/irc-log-020621/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/03/irc-log-020621/ [09:14] techrights-bot #IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, June 02, 2021 http://techrights.org/2021/06/03/irc-log-020621/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/03/irc-log-020621/ [09:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, June 02, 2021 | Techrights [09:14] TechrightsBot-tr/fn techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, June 02, 2021 | Techrights [09:15] techrights-bot IRC logs for Wednesday, June 02, 2021 [09:15] techrights-bot/fn IRC logs for Wednesday, June 02, 2021 [09:16] schestowitz XRevan86: was the LC bridge removed or something? [09:16] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] XRevan86: was the LC bridge removed or something? [09:19] techrights-bot NEWS #SiliconAngle #ProprietarySoftware New Epsilon Red ransomware is targeting [sic] unpatched Microsoft Exchange servers https://siliconangle.com/2021/05/31/new-epsilon-red-ransomware-targeting-unpatched-microsoft-exchange-servers/ [09:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New 'Epsilon Red' ransomware is targeting unpatched Microsoft Exchange servers - SiliconANGLE [09:19] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #SiliconAngle #ProprietarySoftware New Epsilon Red ransomware is targeting [sic] unpatched Microsoft Exchange servers https://siliconangle.com/2021/05/31/new-epsilon-red-ransomware-targeting-unpatched-microsoft-exchange-servers/ [09:19] TechrightsBot-tr/fn New 'Epsilon Red' ransomware is targeting unpatched Microsoft Exchange servers - SiliconANGLE [09:20] techrights-bot #Microsoft #Windows TCO: #TheHill #ProprietarySoftware #FBI says Russia-linked group behind JBS [crack] https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/556585-fbi-says-russia-linked-groups-behind-jbs-hack [09:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-FBI says Russia-linked group behind JBS hack | TheHill [09:20] techrights-bot/fn #Microsoft #Windows TCO: #TheHill #ProprietarySoftware #FBI says Russia-linked group behind JBS [crack] https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/556585-fbi-says-russia-linked-groups-behind-jbs-hack [09:20] TechrightsBot-tr/fn FBI says Russia-linked group behind JBS hack | TheHill [09:20] techrights-bot #Microsoft #Windows TCO: #Bloomberg #ProprietarySoftware Russia-Linked Group Behind JBS Attack Revels in Audaciousness https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-06-02/russia-linked-group-behind-jbs-attack-revels-in-audaciousness [09:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot? [09:20] techrights-bot/fn #Microsoft #Windows TCO: #Bloomberg #ProprietarySoftware Russia-Linked Group Behind JBS Attack Revels in Audaciousness https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-06-02/russia-linked-group-behind-jbs-attack-revels-in-audaciousness [09:20] TechrightsBot-tr/fn Bloomberg - Are you a robot? [09:21] techrights-bot #Microsoft #Windows TCO: #TheVerge #ProprietarySoftware FBI names REvil as the group behind meat supplier cyberattack https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/3/22466003/jbs-cyberattack-fbi-revil-sodinokibi-criminal-group [09:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | FBI names REvil as the group behind meat supplier cyberattack - The Verge [09:21] techrights-bot/fn #Microsoft #Windows TCO: #TheVerge #ProprietarySoftware FBI names REvil as the group behind meat supplier cyberattack https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/3/22466003/jbs-cyberattack-fbi-revil-sodinokibi-criminal-group [09:21] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.theverge.com | FBI names REvil as the group behind meat supplier cyberattack - The Verge [09:21] techrights-bot #Microsoft #Windows TCO: #TheRecord #ProprietarySoftware FBI: #JBS ransomware attack was carried out by REvil https://therecord.media/fbi-jbs-ransomware-attack-was-carried-out-by-revil/ [09:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-therecord.media | FBI: JBS ransomware attack was carried out by REvil | The Record by Recorded Future [09:21] techrights-bot/fn #Microsoft #Windows TCO: #TheRecord #ProprietarySoftware FBI: #JBS ransomware attack was carried out by REvil https://therecord.media/fbi-jbs-ransomware-attack-was-carried-out-by-revil/ [09:21] TechrightsBot-tr/fn therecord.media | FBI: JBS ransomware attack was carried out by REvil | The Record by Recorded Future [09:24] Techrights-sec https://nitter.cc/mjg59/status/1400190697257332738#m [09:24] tr-bridge [Techrights-sec/tr] https://nitter.cc/mjg59/status/1400190697257332738#m [09:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.cc | Matthew Garrett (@mjg59): "(CW, sexual violence, linking to screenshot of text so people have to click through) Techrights IRC is having a normal one, by which I mean this is absolutely not an unusual level of discourse there: http://codon.org.uk/~mjg59/techrights_2021_06_02.png" | nitter [09:24] TechrightsBot-tr/fn nitter.cc | Matthew Garrett (@mjg59): "(CW, sexual violence, linking to screenshot of text so people have to click through) Techrights IRC is having a normal one, by which I mean this is absolutely not an unusual level of discourse there: http://codon.org.uk/~mjg59/techrights_2021_06_02.png" | nitter [09:24] schestowitz the troll doing his ritual defamation again [09:24] schestowitz/fn the troll doing his ritual defamation again [09:24] schestowitz he'll never stop [09:24] schestowitz/fn he'll never stop [09:24] schestowitz in this case using BaronVladimirHar [09:24] schestowitz/fn in this case using BaronVladimirHar [09:25] schestowitz told you he'd use you to inflame people [09:25] schestowitz/fn told you he'd use you to inflame people [09:25] schestowitz anyway, he picks people who clearly don't speak for the site [09:25] schestowitz/fn anyway, he picks people who clearly don't speak for the site [09:27] immibis yes, shouting FUCK ME at a store is free speech [09:27] immibis/fn yes, shouting FUCK ME at a store is free speech [09:27] schestowitz so now he's basically down to: [09:27] schestowitz/fn so now he's basically down to: [09:27] immibis so is "I'm gonna kill you!" [09:27] immibis/fn so is "I'm gonna kill you!" [09:28] schestowitz/fn "look, I entered some IRC channel" [09:28] schestowitz "look, I entered some IRC channel" [09:28] schestowitz "someone said something really bad" [09:28] schestowitz/fn "someone said something really bad" [09:28] schestowitz immibis: but they defy other laws [09:28] schestowitz/fn immibis: but they defy other laws [09:28] immibis/fn more like "someone accused me of being a child rapist" [09:28] immibis more like "someone accused me of being a child rapist" [09:28] schestowitz like, I can report you to authorities for death threats [09:28] schestowitz/fn like, I can report you to authorities for death threats [09:29] immibis well then, I don't have free speech [09:29] immibis/fn well then, I don't have free speech [09:29] schestowitz anyway, the quality of smears against us took a tumble... quoting random people in IRC, which is open to everyone on multiple networks [09:29] schestowitz/fn anyway, the quality of smears against us took a tumble... quoting random people in IRC, which is open to everyone on multiple networks [09:29] schestowitz bbiab [09:29] schestowitz/fn bbiab [09:29] schestowitz it's a waste of time to even entertain this toll [09:29] schestowitz/fn it's a waste of time to even entertain this toll [09:29] schestowitz troll [09:29] schestowitz/fn troll [09:29] schestowitz they try to gross people out [09:29] schestowitz/fn they try to gross people out [09:29] schestowitz and fabricate things [09:29] schestowitz/fn and fabricate things [09:29] schestowitz 2 days ago: http://techrights.org/2021/06/01/wikipedia-osi/ [09:29] schestowitz/fn 2 days ago: http://techrights.org/2021/06/01/wikipedia-osi/ [09:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Libel Initiative: OSI President Falsely Insinuates OSI Critics Are Homophobic and Requests Censorship of Wikipedia (for OSI) | Techrights [09:29] TechrightsBot-tr/fn techrights.org | The Libel Initiative: OSI President Falsely Insinuates OSI Critics Are Homophobic and Requests Censorship of Wikipedia (for OSI) | Techrights [09:29] schestowitz they just try to paint a false picture of the site, based on fabrications [09:29] schestowitz/fn they just try to paint a false picture of the site, based on fabrications [09:30] immibis ^ there's a link saying it's bad to call people homophobic, but you say it's perfectly fine to call people child rapists? [09:30] immibis/fn ^ there's a link saying it's bad to call people homophobic, but you say it's perfectly fine to call people child rapists? [09:30] schestowitz not the point.. [09:30] schestowitz/fn not the point.. [09:30] schestowitz the point is [09:30] schestowitz/fn the point is [09:30] schestowitz he was provoking here [09:30] schestowitz/fn he was provoking here [09:31] schestowitz bringing up sex [09:31] schestowitz/fn bringing up sex [09:31] schestowitz and lurking here for dirt [09:31] schestowitz/fn and lurking here for dirt [09:31] schestowitz to he can write malicious tweets out of context [09:31] schestowitz/fn to he can write malicious tweets out of context [09:31] schestowitz to make it look like techrights is just some site that talks things like that [09:31] schestowitz/fn to make it look like techrights is just some site that talks things like that [09:31] schestowitz when the troll himself, Garrett, was the one interjecting sex into the channel [09:31] schestowitz/fn when the troll himself, Garrett, was the one interjecting sex into the channel [09:32] schestowitz I hope you at least understand why AFTER ALMOST A YEAR OF ALLOW HIM TO TALK (in the name of free speech) MinceR muted him [09:32] schestowitz/fn I hope you at least understand why AFTER ALMOST A YEAR OF ALLOW HIM TO TALK (in the name of free speech) MinceR muted him [09:32] schestowitz these are vandals [09:32] schestowitz/fn these are vandals [09:32] techrights-bot NEWS #CoryDoctorow #Surveillance #Privacy Google cheats on location privacy https://pluralistic.net/2021/06/01/you-are-here/#goog [09:32] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #CoryDoctorow #Surveillance #Privacy Google cheats on location privacy https://pluralistic.net/2021/06/01/you-are-here/#goog [09:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pluralistic.net | Pluralistic: 01 Jun 2021 Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow [09:32] TechrightsBot-tr/fn pluralistic.net | Pluralistic: 01 Jun 2021 Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow [09:32] techrights-bot NEWS #InternetSociety #isoc #internet #Surveillance #Privacy How Do Surveillance Laws Impact the Economy? https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/2021/06/how-do-surveillance-laws-impact-the-economy/ [09:32] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #InternetSociety #isoc #internet #Surveillance #Privacy How Do Surveillance Laws Impact the Economy? https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/2021/06/how-do-surveillance-laws-impact-the-economy/ [09:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.internetsociety.org | How Do Surveillance Laws Impact the Economy? | Internet Society [09:32] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.internetsociety.org | How Do Surveillance Laws Impact the Economy? | Internet Society [09:34] techrights-bot Hands-On with System76s COSMIC Desktop for Pop!_OS Linux 21.04 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151886 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [09:34] techrights-bot/fn Hands-On with System76s COSMIC Desktop for Pop!_OS Linux 21.04 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151886 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [09:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hands-On with System76s COSMIC Desktop for Pop!_OS Linux 21.04 | Tux Machines [09:34] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | Hands-On with System76s COSMIC Desktop for Pop!_OS Linux 21.04 | Tux Machines [09:34] immibis talking about sex is free speech [09:34] immibis/fn talking about sex is free speech [09:35] schestowitz he's throw bricks at us is he could [09:35] schestowitz/fn he's throw bricks at us is he could [09:35] schestowitz but instead he's trying all he can to destory the channel and the site [09:35] schestowitz/fn but instead he's trying all he can to destory the channel and the site [09:35] schestowitz with or without spewing provocation and abuse in these IRC fora [09:35] schestowitz/fn with or without spewing provocation and abuse in these IRC fora [09:36] schestowitz mind you [09:36] schestowitz/fn mind you [09:36] schestowitz we're not alone [09:36] schestowitz/fn we're not alone [09:36] schestowitz he also did this repeated to RMS and Linux Torvalds [09:36] schestowitz/fn he also did this repeated to RMS and Linux Torvalds [09:36] schestowitz repeatedly [09:36] schestowitz/fn repeatedly [09:36] schestowitz for many years [09:36] schestowitz/fn for many years [09:36] schestowitz with varying degree of success [09:36] schestowitz/fn with varying degree of success [09:36] schestowitz Torvalds was demoted or removed temporarily [09:36] schestowitz/fn Torvalds was demoted or removed temporarily [09:36] schestowitz and we know where RMS stands these days [09:36] schestowitz/fn and we know where RMS stands these days [09:37] schestowitz maybe he should revisit Ireland and do that in some pub in Belfast [09:37] schestowitz/fn maybe he should revisit Ireland and do that in some pub in Belfast [09:37] schestowitz we'll see how far that goes... [09:37] schestowitz/fn we'll see how far that goes... [09:37] schestowitz before he gets shot [09:37] schestowitz/fn before he gets shot [09:38] immibis talking about sex is not violence [09:38] immibis/fn talking about sex is not violence [09:38] schestowitz living in a complete fantasy world where you can be a complete a-hole and expect no response is the sort of fantasy world he and his ilk are losing [09:38] schestowitz/fn living in a complete fantasy world where you can be a complete a-hole and expect no response is the sort of fantasy world he and his ilk are losing [09:39] schestowitz because they drive people away from them [09:39] schestowitz/fn because they drive people away from them [09:39] schestowitz even people whom they want us to think are allies [09:39] schestowitz/fn even people whom they want us to think are allies [09:39] schestowitz even leftists get disgusted by them [09:39] schestowitz/fn even leftists get disgusted by them [09:39] immibis maybe you should join IRCv3 and create the BULLETMSG extension [09:39] immibis/fn maybe you should join IRCv3 and create the BULLETMSG extension [09:40] techrights-bot NEWS #Bloomberg #Finance #Apple Co-Founder Steve Wozniak Cant Sue YouTube Over Bitcoin Scam https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-06-03/apple-co-founder-wozniak-can-t-sue-youtube-over-bitcoin-scam [09:40] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #Bloomberg #Finance #Apple Co-Founder Steve Wozniak Cant Sue YouTube Over Bitcoin Scam https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-06-03/apple-co-founder-wozniak-can-t-sue-youtube-over-bitcoin-scam [09:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot? 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[09:47] *rianne (~rianne@haii6za73zabc.irc) has joined #techrights [09:47] *asusbox (~rianne@haii6za73zabc.irc) has joined #techrights [09:47] schestowitz immibis: I try to focus on reading and writing [09:47] schestowitz/fn immibis: I try to focus on reading and writing [09:47] *asusbox (~rianne@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:f4bf:2fd3:cddc:7fb5) has joined #techrights [09:47] *rianne (~rianne@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:f4bf:2fd3:cddc:7fb5) has joined #techrights [09:47] schestowitz we also do admin and code work [09:47] schestowitz/fn we also do admin and code work [09:47] schestowitz immibis: xrevan does much of the irc bridging [09:47] schestowitz/fn immibis: xrevan does much of the irc bridging [09:48] schestowitz kaniini and MinceR help a lot with IRC stuff [09:48] schestowitz/fn kaniini and MinceR help a lot with IRC stuff [09:48] schestowitz I did not write much this morning due to network issues [09:48] schestowitz/fn I did not write much this morning due to network issues [09:48] schestowitz which we overcome slowly [09:48] schestowitz/fn which we overcome slowly [09:48] schestowitz and i don't want to let the above-mentioned troll waste time either [09:48] schestowitz/fn and i don't want to let the above-mentioned troll waste time either [09:48] schestowitz he has done worse [09:48] schestowitz/fn he has done worse [09:48] schestowitz like trying to imply rape apologism [09:48] schestowitz/fn like trying to imply rape apologism [09:48] schestowitz seems like a modus operandi [09:48] schestowitz/fn seems like a modus operandi [09:49] schestowitz accuse your opponent of something phobic, even if that's totally false [09:49] schestowitz/fn accuse your opponent of something phobic, even if that's totally false [09:49] schestowitz this was done to RMS [09:49] schestowitz/fn this was done to RMS [09:54] immibis accusing of xphobia is bad, but accusing of child rape is okay? [09:54] immibis/fn accusing of xphobia is bad, but accusing of child rape is okay? [09:56] schestowitz who? BaronVladimirHar? [09:56] schestowitz/fn who? BaronVladimirHar? [09:56] schestowitz ask him, not me [09:56] schestowitz/fn ask him, not me [09:57] schestowitz btw, he accused him of no such think afaict [09:57] schestowitz/fn btw, he accused him of no such think afaict [09:57] schestowitz he accused him of turning a blind eye to people who rape kids [09:57] schestowitz/fn he accused him of turning a blind eye to people who rape kids [09:57] schestowitz based on abuse garrett had given him [09:57] schestowitz/fn based on abuse garrett had given him [09:57] schestowitz like sending him DM about CP [09:57] schestowitz/fn like sending him DM about CP [09:57] schestowitz you are new here, immibis [09:57] schestowitz/fn you are new here, immibis [09:57] schestowitz so maybe you could use some pointers to history of it all [09:57] schestowitz/fn so maybe you could use some pointers to history of it all [09:58] schestowitz WE TOLERATED A LOT FROM THAT TROLL, since last year [09:58] schestowitz/fn WE TOLERATED A LOT FROM THAT TROLL, since last year [09:58] schestowitz without muting [09:58] schestowitz/fn without muting [09:59] *is0ke3 (~is0ke3@unaffiliated/isokee) has joined #techrights ● Jun 03 [10:00] schestowitz hi, is0ke3 [10:00] schestowitz/fn hi, is0ke3 [10:00] techrights-bot NEWS #BroadbandBreakfast #Censorship Automated #SocialControlMedia Moderation In Focus Following Allegations Of Censorship https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2021/06/automated-social-media-moderation-in-focus-following-allegations-of-censorship-of-groups/ [10:00] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #BroadbandBreakfast #Censorship Automated #SocialControlMedia Moderation In Focus Following Allegations Of Censorship https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2021/06/automated-social-media-moderation-in-focus-following-allegations-of-censorship-of-groups/ [10:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-broadbandbreakfast.com | Automated Social Media Moderation In Focus Following Allegations Of Censorship : Broadband Breakfast [10:00] TechrightsBot-tr/fn broadbandbreakfast.com | Automated Social Media Moderation In Focus Following Allegations Of Censorship : Broadband Breakfast [10:00] schestowitz
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    I am not, and SFLC is not, counsel to FSF, the GNU Project, or the GCC Steering Committee. We do not speak for any of them. I have read the GCC Steering Committee statement on copyright assignment, and on that basis I can give an independent legal opinion.

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    I am not, and SFLC is not, counsel to FSF, the GNU Project, or the GCC Steering Committee. We do not speak for any of them. I have read the GCC Steering Committee statement on copyright assignment, and on that basis I can give an independent legal opinion.

    [10:01] is0ke3/fn hello [10:01] is0ke3 hello [10:01] techrights-bot NEWS #GCC Update to #GCC copyright assignment policy https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc/2021-June/236182.html [10:01] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #GCC Update to #GCC copyright assignment policy https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc/2021-June/236182.html [10:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gcc.gnu.org | Update to GCC copyright assignment policy [10:01] TechrightsBot-tr/fn gcc.gnu.org | Update to GCC copyright assignment policy [10:03] schestowitz immibis: do you want some background and context? [10:03] schestowitz/fn immibis: do you want some background and context? [10:03] schestowitz you are relatively new here, I don't want to come across as hostile [10:03] schestowitz/fn you are relatively new here, I don't want to come across as hostile [10:03] *mmu_man (~revol@82-65-227-82.subs.proxad.net) has joined #techrights [10:03] schestowitz I just want to get on with writing and stuff, not deal with all the manufactured drama created by people who try to undermine the work [10:03] schestowitz/fn I just want to get on with writing and stuff, not deal with all the manufactured drama created by people who try to undermine the work [10:04] schestowitz either by preventing it happening or discouraging people linking to, associating etc. (which is their modus) [10:04] schestowitz/fn either by preventing it happening or discouraging people linking to, associating etc. (which is their modus) [10:04] techrights-bot NEWS #CreativeCommons The 2021 #CC Global Summit Call for Proposals Is Now Open https://creativecommons.org/2021/06/02/the-2021-cc-global-summit-call-for-proposals-is-now-open/ [10:04] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #CreativeCommons The 2021 #CC Global Summit Call for Proposals Is Now Open https://creativecommons.org/2021/06/02/the-2021-cc-global-summit-call-for-proposals-is-now-open/ [10:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-creativecommons.org | The 2021 CC Global Summit Call for Proposals Is Now Open - Creative Commons [10:04] TechrightsBot-tr/fn creativecommons.org | The 2021 CC Global Summit Call for Proposals Is Now Open - Creative Commons [10:06] *asusbox2 (~rianne@haii6za73zabc.irc) has joined #techrights [10:06] *asusbox2 (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [10:06] techrights-bot #AtariVCS Home Gaming and Entertainment System Releasing June 15 - mxdwn Games https://games.mxdwn.com/news/atari-vcs-home-gaming-and-entertainment-system-releasing-june-15/ #games | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/03/#latest [10:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-games.mxdwn.com | Atari VCS Home Gaming and Entertainment System Releasing June 15 - mxdwn Games [10:06] techrights-bot/fn #AtariVCS Home Gaming and Entertainment System Releasing June 15 - mxdwn Games https://games.mxdwn.com/news/atari-vcs-home-gaming-and-entertainment-system-releasing-june-15/ #games | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/03/#latest [10:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [10:06] TechrightsBot-tr/fn games.mxdwn.com | Atari VCS Home Gaming and Entertainment System Releasing June 15 - mxdwn Games [10:06] TechrightsBot-tr/fn schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [10:06] *asusbox has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:08] *asusbox has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [10:09] techrights-bot Proton Experimental prepares for #NVIDIA #DLSS , optional #NVAPI and more game fixes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151810#comment-29845 [10:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Nintendo, NVIDIA, AMD, Wolfenstein, and Ray Tracing | Tux Machines [10:09] techrights-bot/fn Proton Experimental prepares for #NVIDIA #DLSS , optional #NVAPI and more game fixes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151810#comment-29845 [10:09] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Nintendo, NVIDIA, AMD, Wolfenstein, and Ray Tracing | Tux Machines [10:11] techrights-bot It's been over "20 years in the making", #Blender3d 2.93 LTS is out now http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151882#comment-29846 #freesw [10:11] techrights-bot/fn It's been over "20 years in the making", #Blender3d 2.93 LTS is out now http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151882#comment-29846 #freesw [10:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Blender 2.93 LTS Released With Big Changes | Tux Machines [10:11] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | Blender 2.93 LTS Released With Big Changes | Tux Machines [10:11] gustaf schestowitz: there's no need for anyone to screenshot something, becuse the same content is published for all to see 1 day later; http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-020621.html#tJun%2002%2021:28:59 [10:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Wednesday, June 02, 2021 [10:12] gustaf/fn schestowitz: there's no need for anyone to screenshot something, becuse the same content is published for all to see 1 day later; http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-020621.html#tJun%2002%2021:28:59 [10:12] TechrightsBot-tr/fn techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Wednesday, June 02, 2021 [10:12] techrights-bot "AI improvements" = further changed to code. HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI. https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/total-war-rome-remastered-gets-a-small-first-patch-devs-looking-into-ai-improvements [10:12] techrights-bot/fn "AI improvements" = further changed to code. HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI. https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/total-war-rome-remastered-gets-a-small-first-patch-devs-looking-into-ai-improvements [10:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Total War: ROME REMASTERED gets a small first patch, devs looking into AI improvements | GamingOnLinux [10:12] TechrightsBot-tr/fn Total War: ROME REMASTERED gets a small first patch, devs looking into AI improvements | GamingOnLinux [10:12] schestowitz gustaf: true, with context too [10:12] schestowitz/fn gustaf: true, with context too [10:13] schestowitz afaik, almost everyone ignored BaronVladimirHar at the time [10:13] schestowitz/fn afaik, almost everyone ignored BaronVladimirHar at the time [10:13] schestowitz BTW, BaronVladimirHar is gay [10:13] schestowitz/fn BTW, BaronVladimirHar is gay [10:13] schestowitz and so that sort of puts in context what he said [10:13] schestowitz/fn and so that sort of puts in context what he said [10:13] schestowitz he's upset at people who claim to be -- in their OWN words -- "SJW" and then ignore the people who commit genocide against gays [10:13] schestowitz/fn he's upset at people who claim to be -- in their OWN words -- "SJW" and then ignore the people who commit genocide against gays [10:14] schestowitz they instead pick on people like Torvalds and RMS, who are left leaning and tolerant [10:14] schestowitz/fn they instead pick on people like Torvalds and RMS, who are left leaning and tolerant [10:14] gustaf ok, thanks for expanding. [10:14] gustaf/fn ok, thanks for expanding. [10:14] schestowitz they even try to call Torvalds "sexist" http://techrights.org/2020/06/06/sexism-misrepresentation/ [10:14] schestowitz/fn they even try to call Torvalds "sexist" http://techrights.org/2020/06/06/sexism-misrepresentation/ [10:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | They Tell Us Linus Torvalds is Sexist But Evidence Suggests Otherwise | Techrights [10:14] TechrightsBot-tr/fn techrights.org | They Tell Us Linus Torvalds is Sexist But Evidence Suggests Otherwise | Techrights [10:14] schestowitz they're best off ignored [10:14] schestowitz/fn they're best off ignored [10:14] schestowitz and guess who pays them [10:14] schestowitz/fn and guess who pays them [10:14] schestowitz Google, Red Hat/IBM... [10:14] schestowitz/fn Google, Red Hat/IBM... [10:15] schestowitz they need a good distraction from themselves [10:15] schestowitz/fn they need a good distraction from themselves [10:15] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/04/25/ibm-germany-history/ [10:15] schestowitz/fn http://techrights.org/2021/04/25/ibm-germany-history/ [10:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Documentary: IBM Founder (Watson) Gave a Nazi Salute, Admired Hitler, Said Hitler Was Doing the Right Thing | Techrights [10:15] TechrightsBot-tr/fn techrights.org | Documentary: IBM Founder (Watson) Gave a Nazi Salute, Admired Hitler, Said Hitler Was Doing the Right Thing | Techrights [10:16] gustaf I respect your desire for transparency w/ public logging, but for your own sake, and not to detract from your stated mission, maybe let people know that advocating for lynching isn't the best look? [10:16] gustaf/fn I respect your desire for transparency w/ public logging, but for your own sake, and not to detract from your stated mission, maybe let people know that advocating for lynching isn't the best look? [10:16] schestowitz the only "community" they can tolerate is UNPAID LABOUR that reports bugs [10:16] schestowitz/fn the only "community" they can tolerate is UNPAID LABOUR that reports bugs [10:16] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:16] schestowitz gustaf: not what BaronVladimirHar did in that case [10:16] schestowitz/fn gustaf: not what BaronVladimirHar did in that case [10:16] schestowitz read carefully [10:16] schestowitz/fn read carefully [10:16] *asusbox2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:16] gustaf http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-020621.html#tJun%2002%2021:33:05 [10:16] gustaf/fn http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-020621.html#tJun%2002%2021:33:05 [10:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Wednesday, June 02, 2021 [10:16] TechrightsBot-tr/fn techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Wednesday, June 02, 2021 [10:16] schestowitz he blasted the troll for looking the other way when people are killed in droves [10:16] schestowitz/fn he blasted the troll for looking the other way when people are killed in droves [10:17] schestowitz gustaf: he says a lot of nonsense [10:17] schestowitz/fn gustaf: he says a lot of nonsense [10:17] schestowitz Matrix banned him [10:17] schestowitz/fn Matrix banned him [10:17] schestowitz I don't endorse his political views [10:17] schestowitz/fn I don't endorse his political views [10:17] schestowitz and I repeatedly asked him to stay on topic [10:17] schestowitz/fn and I repeatedly asked him to stay on topic [10:17] gustaf fair enough [10:17] gustaf/fn fair enough [10:17] schestowitz we don't police who comes here [10:17] schestowitz/fn we don't police who comes here [10:17] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [10:18] gustaf yah Im new here too, only started to follow this stuff when fN imploded [10:18] gustaf/fn yah Im new here too, only started to follow this stuff when fN imploded [10:18] gustaf thanks again for expanding [10:18] gustaf/fn thanks again for expanding [10:18] *asusbox2 has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [10:18] schestowitz I am personally more concerned about the likes of Garrett here than BaronVladimirHar techrights.org/2015/10/07/forking-with-hypocrisy/ [10:18] schestowitz/fn I am personally more concerned about the likes of Garrett here than BaronVladimirHar techrights.org/2015/10/07/forking-with-hypocrisy/ [10:18] schestowitz their life is so pathetic they can devote YEARS to taking down people [10:18] schestowitz/fn their life is so pathetic they can devote YEARS to taking down people [10:18] schestowitz people, not orgs [10:18] schestowitz/fn people, not orgs [10:20] techrights-bot #Ubuntu and #Fedora Community http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151887 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [10:20] techrights-bot/fn #Ubuntu and #Fedora Community http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151887 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [10:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu and Fedora Community | Tux Machines [10:20] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu and Fedora Community | Tux Machines [10:23] techrights-bot NEWS #EFF #tor #PayPal Shuts Down Long-Time Tor Supporter with No Recourse https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/06/paypal-shuts-down-long-time-tor-supporter-no-recourse Well, @EFF wants to shut down FSF: http://techrights.org/2021/04/16/eff-rogue/ [10:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | PayPal Shuts Down Long-Time Tor Supporter with No Recourse | Electronic Frontier Foundation [10:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EFF Attacks Software Freedom and Promotes Fake Privacy Linked to Microsoft | Techrights [10:23] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #EFF #tor #PayPal Shuts Down Long-Time Tor Supporter with No Recourse https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/06/paypal-shuts-down-long-time-tor-supporter-no-recourse Well, @EFF wants to shut down FSF: http://techrights.org/2021/04/16/eff-rogue/ [10:23] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.eff.org | PayPal Shuts Down Long-Time Tor Supporter with No Recourse | Electronic Frontier Foundation [10:23] TechrightsBot-tr/fn techrights.org | The EFF Attacks Software Freedom and Promotes Fake Privacy Linked to Microsoft | Techrights [10:25] techrights-bot Media hardly mentions #assange and #olabini anymore. 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[10:26] techrights-bot NEWS #Techdirt #censorship Content Moderation Case Study: #Twitter Suspends Users Who Tweet The Word 'Memphis' (2021) https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210602/11283546915/content-moderation-case-study-twitter-suspends-users-who-tweet-word-memphis-2021.shtml or WORSE: http://techrights.org/2021/02/05/twitter-censorship-bingo/ [10:26] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #Techdirt #censorship Content Moderation Case Study: #Twitter Suspends Users Who Tweet The Word 'Memphis' (2021) https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210602/11283546915/content-moderation-case-study-twitter-suspends-users-who-tweet-word-memphis-2021.shtml or WORSE: http://techrights.org/2021/02/05/twitter-censorship-bingo/ [10:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Content Moderation Case Study: Twitter Suspends Users Who Tweet The Word 'Memphis' (2021) | Techdirt [10:26] TechrightsBot-tr/fn Content Moderation Case Study: Twitter Suspends Users Who Tweet The Word 'Memphis' (2021) | Techdirt [10:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Twitter Has Just Suspended the President of FFII for Naming Bill Gates Patent Profiteering and Factual Information About Twitter Censorship (Updated) | Techrights [10:26] TechrightsBot-tr/fn techrights.org | Twitter Has Just Suspended the President of FFII for Naming Bill Gates Patent Profiteering and Factual Information About Twitter Censorship (Updated) | Techrights [10:27] schestowitz = [10:27] schestowitz/fn = [10:27] schestowitz https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=GCC-Drops-FSF-CA [10:27] schestowitz/fn https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=GCC-Drops-FSF-CA [10:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GCC To No Longer Require Copyright Assignment To The Free Software Foundation - Phoronix [10:27] TechrightsBot-tr/fn GCC To No Longer Require Copyright Assignment To The Free Software Foundation - Phoronix [10:27] techrights-bot NEWS #Techdirt Are Partial Liability Rules The Path Forward For Intermediary Liability Regimes? Lessons Learned From #Brazil https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210527/10280446886/are-partial-liability-rules-path-forward-intermediary-liability-regimes-lessons-learned-brazil.shtml [10:27] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #Techdirt Are Partial Liability Rules The Path Forward For Intermediary Liability Regimes? Lessons Learned From #Brazil https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210527/10280446886/are-partial-liability-rules-path-forward-intermediary-liability-regimes-lessons-learned-brazil.shtml [10:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Are Partial Liability Rules The Path Forward For Intermediary Liability Regimes? Lessons Learned From Brazil | Techdirt [10:27] TechrightsBot-tr/fn Are Partial Liability Rules The Path Forward For Intermediary Liability Regimes? Lessons Learned From Brazil | Techdirt [10:30] techrights-bot #wikipedia article about #OSI is being 'manicured' at THE REQUEST OF OSI President (abuse of Wikipedia rules, AFAIK) http://techrights.org/2021/06/01/wikipedia-osi/ see https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Open_Source_Initiative&action=history https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Open_Source_Initiative&diff=1026345897&oldid=1026345614 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Open_Source_Initiative&diff=1 [10:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Libel Initiative: OSI President Falsely Insinuates OSI Critics Are Homophobic and Requests Censorship of Wikipedia (for OSI) | Techrights [10:30] techrights-bot/fn #wikipedia article about #OSI is being 'manicured' at THE REQUEST OF OSI President (abuse of Wikipedia rules, AFAIK) http://techrights.org/2021/06/01/wikipedia-osi/ see https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Open_Source_Initiative&action=history https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Open_Source_Initiative&diff=1026345897&oldid=1026345614 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index. [10:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Open Source Initiative: Revision history - Wikipedia [10:30] techrights-bot/fn php?title=Open_Source_Initiative&diff=10 [10:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Open Source Initiative: Difference between revisions - Wikipedia [10:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Error - Wikipedia [10:30] TechrightsBot-tr/fn techrights.org | The Libel Initiative: OSI President Falsely Insinuates OSI Critics Are Homophobic and Requests Censorship of Wikipedia (for OSI) | Techrights [10:30] TechrightsBot-tr/fn en.wikipedia.org | Open Source Initiative: Revision history - Wikipedia [10:30] TechrightsBot-tr/fn en.wikipedia.org | Open Source Initiative: Difference between revisions - Wikipedia [10:30] TechrightsBot-tr/fn en.wikipedia.org | Error - Wikipedia [10:31] techrights-bot #OSI is basically defunct. Now it's making #wikipedia defunct as well (to hide the fact of how OSI basically killed itself). http://techrights.org/2021/03/21/leaderless-osi/ [10:31] techrights-bot/fn #OSI is basically defunct. Now it's making #wikipedia defunct as well (to hide the fact of how OSI basically killed itself). http://techrights.org/2021/03/21/leaderless-osi/ [10:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Open Source Initiative (OSI): A Boat Without a Captain | Techrights [10:31] TechrightsBot-tr/fn techrights.org | Open Source Initiative (OSI): A Boat Without a Captain | Techrights [10:32] techrights-bot #capitalism as a #religion not to be 'offended' https://neritam.wordpress.com/2021/06/01/capitalism-is-a-misanthropic-dystopian-religion/ [10:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-neritam.wordpress.com | Capitalism Is A Misanthropic, Dystopian Religion neritam [10:32] techrights-bot/fn #capitalism as a #religion not to be 'offended' https://neritam.wordpress.com/2021/06/01/capitalism-is-a-misanthropic-dystopian-religion/ [10:32] TechrightsBot-tr/fn neritam.wordpress.com | Capitalism Is A Misanthropic, Dystopian Religion neritam [10:33] techrights-bot #OSI last phase (before death): we hide the fact that we're dead and censor people who point out what we did to ourselves... by publicly libelling them for #censorship purposes http://techrights.org/2021/06/01/wikipedia-osi/ [10:33] techrights-bot/fn #OSI last phase (before death): we hide the fact that we're dead and censor people who point out what we did to ourselves... by publicly libelling them for #censorship purposes http://techrights.org/2021/06/01/wikipedia-osi/ [10:34] techrights-bot/fn The next action against #fsf (led partly by #ibm -paid mob) https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=21/06/01/1940248 see http://techrights.org/2021/06/02/gcc-copyright-assignment/ [10:34] techrights-bot The next action against #fsf (led partly by #ibm -paid mob) https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=21/06/01/1940248 see http://techrights.org/2021/06/02/gcc-copyright-assignment/ [10:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | GCC 9.4 Released; GCC Drops Copyright Assignment to the FSF - SoylentNews [10:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | It Remains Largely Unclear Whose Idea It Was to Change GCC Copyright Assignment Practices (or How/Why It Started) | Techrights [10:34] TechrightsBot-tr/fn soylentnews.org | GCC 9.4 Released; GCC Drops Copyright Assignment to the FSF - SoylentNews [10:35] TechrightsBot-tr/fn techrights.org | It Remains Largely Unclear Whose Idea It Was to Change GCC Copyright Assignment Practices (or How/Why It Started) | Techrights [10:36] techrights-bot #ibm and superspreaders. Anything for control over people. https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bafaIYZ [10:36] techrights-bot/fn #ibm and superspreaders. Anything for control over people. https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bafaIYZ [10:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | why is ibm he-l bent on returning to office - post regarding IBM layoffs [10:36] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.thelayoff.com | why is ibm he-l bent on returning to office - post regarding IBM layoffs [10:38] techrights-bot A lot of the #gcc devs who push against the #fsf are #ibm employees http://techrights.org/2020/06/05/guix-petition/ [10:38] techrights-bot/fn A lot of the #gcc devs who push against the #fsf are #ibm employees http://techrights.org/2020/06/05/guix-petition/ [10:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Guix Petition Demographic Data, by Figosdev | Techrights [10:38] TechrightsBot-tr/fn techrights.org | Guix Petition Demographic Data, by Figosdev | Techrights [10:39] techrights-bot #IBM : We Trust #Microsoft , We Dont Trust the #FSF http://techrights.org/2021/04/28/ibm-chooses-microsoft-over-fsf/ #Techrights #GNU | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/04/28/ibm-chooses-microsoft-over-fsf/ [10:39] techrights-bot/fn #IBM : We Trust #Microsoft , We Dont Trust the #FSF http://techrights.org/2021/04/28/ibm-chooses-microsoft-over-fsf/ #Techrights #GNU | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/04/28/ibm-chooses-microsoft-over-fsf/ [10:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM: We Trust Microsoft, We Dont Trust the FSF | Techrights [10:39] TechrightsBot-tr/fn techrights.org | IBM: We Trust Microsoft, We Dont Trust the FSF | Techrights [10:39] techrights-bot NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #Mangamura Operator Handed Three-Year Prison Sentence, $650K in Fines https://torrentfreak.com/mangamura-operator-handed-three-year-prison-sentence-650k-in-fines-210602/ [10:39] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #Mangamura Operator Handed Three-Year Prison Sentence, $650K in Fines https://torrentfreak.com/mangamura-operator-handed-three-year-prison-sentence-650k-in-fines-210602/ [10:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mangamura Operator Handed Three-Year Prison Sentence, $650K in Fines * TorrentFreak [10:39] TechrightsBot-tr/fn Mangamura Operator Handed Three-Year Prison Sentence, $650K in Fines * TorrentFreak [10:39] techrights-bot NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights Database of 'Pirate Site Haven' DDoS-Guard is Reportedly Up For Sale https://torrentfreak.com/database-of-pirate-site-haven-ddos-guard-is-reportedly-up-for-sale-210602/ [10:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Database of 'Pirate Site Haven' DDoS-Guard is Reportedly Up For Sale * TorrentFreak [10:40] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights Database of 'Pirate Site Haven' DDoS-Guard is Reportedly Up For Sale https://torrentfreak.com/database-of-pirate-site-haven-ddos-guard-is-reportedly-up-for-sale-210602/ [10:40] TechrightsBot-tr/fn Database of 'Pirate Site Haven' DDoS-Guard is Reportedly Up For Sale * TorrentFreak [10:42] *is0ke3 (~is0ke3@unaffiliated/isokee) has left #techrights ("Zzzzz..... ") [10:43] techrights-bot NEWS #Techdirt A Conversation About Video Game Preservation In The Gaming Industry Is Long, Long Overdue https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210602/12324246916/conversation-about-video-game-preservation-gaming-industry-is-long-long-overdue.shtml [10:43] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #Techdirt A Conversation About Video Game Preservation In The Gaming Industry Is Long, Long Overdue https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210602/12324246916/conversation-about-video-game-preservation-gaming-industry-is-long-long-overdue.shtml [10:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A Conversation About Video Game Preservation In The Gaming Industry Is Long, Long Overdue | Techdirt [10:43] TechrightsBot-tr/fn A Conversation About Video Game Preservation In The Gaming Industry Is Long, Long Overdue | Techdirt [10:47] techrights-bot NEWS #Techdirt #Trump Bans Himself From His Own Blog; Upset That Everyone Mocked Its Terrible Traffic https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210602/09483046913/trump-bans-himself-his-own-blog-upset-that-everyone-mocked-terrible-traffic.shtml [10:47] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #Techdirt #Trump Bans Himself From His Own Blog; Upset That Everyone Mocked Its Terrible Traffic https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210602/09483046913/trump-bans-himself-his-own-blog-upset-that-everyone-mocked-terrible-traffic.shtml [10:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Trump Bans Himself From His Own Blog; Upset That Everyone Mocked Its Terrible Traffic | Techdirt [10:47] TechrightsBot-tr/fn Trump Bans Himself From His Own Blog; Upset That Everyone Mocked Its Terrible Traffic | Techdirt [10:50] techrights-bot NEWS #Techdirt #ehrc Europe's Human Rights Court Says #UK Mass #Surveillance Violated Rights, Unlawfully Obtained Journalists' Communications https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210526/11553046878/europes-human-rights-court-says-uk-mass-surveillance-violated-rights-unlawfully-obtained-journalists-communications.shtml [10:50] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #Techdirt #ehrc Europe's Human Rights Court Says #UK Mass #Surveillance Violated Rights, Unlawfully Obtained Journalists' Communications https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210526/11553046878/europes-human-rights-court-says-uk-mass-surveillance-violated-rights-unlawfully-obtained-journalists-communications.shtml [10:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Europe's Human Rights Court Says UK Mass Surveillance Violated Rights, Unlawfully Obtained Journalists' Communications | Techdirt [10:50] TechrightsBot-tr/fn Europe's Human Rights Court Says UK Mass Surveillance Violated Rights, Unlawfully Obtained Journalists' Communications | Techdirt [10:51] *namarrgo1 has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [10:53] techrights-bot NEWS #Tor New Release: Tor Browser 10.0.17 https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tor-browser-10017 [10:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tor-browser-10017 ) [10:53] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #Tor New Release: Tor Browser 10.0.17 https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tor-browser-10017 [10:53] TechrightsBot-tr/fn ( status 404 @ https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tor-browser-10017 ) [10:55] techrights-bot NEWS #DontExtraditeAssange #wikileaks #assange Public inauguration of the #AnythingToSay statue https://dontextraditeassange.com/press-clip/public-inauguration-of-the-anythingtosay-statue/ [10:55] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #DontExtraditeAssange #wikileaks #assange Public inauguration of the #AnythingToSay statue https://dontextraditeassange.com/press-clip/public-inauguration-of-the-anythingtosay-statue/ [10:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dontextraditeassange.com | Public inauguration of the AnythingToSay? statue - Don't Extradite Assange [10:55] TechrightsBot-tr/fn dontextraditeassange.com | Public inauguration of the AnythingToSay? statue - Don't Extradite Assange [10:56] techrights-bot NEWS #EFF @EFF at 30: #Surveillance Is Not Obligatory, with Edward @Snowden https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/05/eff-30-surveillance-isnt-prerequisite-edward-snowden EFF at 30 is dying, after the (co)founder did http://techrights.org/2021/04/16/eff-rogue/ [10:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | EFF at 30: Surveillance Is Not Obligatory, with Edward Snowden | Electronic Frontier Foundation [10:56] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #EFF @EFF at 30: #Surveillance Is Not Obligatory, with Edward @Snowden https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/05/eff-30-surveillance-isnt-prerequisite-edward-snowden EFF at 30 is dying, after the (co)founder did http://techrights.org/2021/04/16/eff-rogue/ [10:56] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.eff.org | EFF at 30: Surveillance Is Not Obligatory, with Edward Snowden | Electronic Frontier Foundation [10:58] techrights-bot NEWS #TruthOut Trump's Blog Shuts Down Weeks After Launch, Having Failed to Garner a Following https://truthout.org/articles/trumps-blog-shuts-down-weeks-after-launch-having-failed-to-garner-a-following/ [10:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Trump's Blog Shuts Down Weeks After Launch, Having Failed to Garner a Following [10:58] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #TruthOut Trump's Blog Shuts Down Weeks After Launch, Having Failed to Garner a Following https://truthout.org/articles/trumps-blog-shuts-down-weeks-after-launch-having-failed-to-garner-a-following/ [10:58] TechrightsBot-tr/fn truthout.org | Trump's Blog Shuts Down Weeks After Launch, Having Failed to Garner a Following ● Jun 03 [11:02] techrights-bot I find this funny. He invested far too much in #socialcontrolmedia and in 2021 nobody knows he exists. https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/2/22464930/donald-trump-blog-facebook-twitter-social-media-platform [11:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Donald Trump has shut down his blog - The Verge [11:02] techrights-bot/fn I find this funny. He invested far too much in #socialcontrolmedia and in 2021 nobody knows he exists. https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/2/22464930/donald-trump-blog-facebook-twitter-social-media-platform [11:02] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.theverge.com | Donald Trump has shut down his blog - The Verge [11:14] techrights-bot Lesson of the story: if for decades you've put all the eggs in the #socialcontrolmedia basket, you are doomed https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/trump-scraps-short-lived-blog-n1269337 [11:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | Trump scraps short-lived blog that was created in wake of social media bans [11:14] techrights-bot/fn Lesson of the story: if for decades you've put all the eggs in the #socialcontrolmedia basket, you are doomed https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/trump-scraps-short-lived-blog-n1269337 [11:14] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.nbcnews.com | Trump scraps short-lived blog that was created in wake of social media bans [11:19] techrights-bot NEWS #RaspberryPi #RasPi #GNU #Linux Nearly 15,000 young people ran their code on the ISS for #AstroPi 2020/21! 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Better to just port whatever was scripted in this #malware -bringing trash in bash or something portable https://idroot.us/install-powershell-debian-10/ [13:17] techrights-bot WHY would you want to do that? Better to just port whatever was scripted in this #malware -bringing trash in bash or something portable https://idroot.us/install-powershell-debian-10/ [13:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-idroot.us | How To Install PowerShell on Debian 10 - idroot [13:17] TechrightsBot-tr/fn idroot.us | How To Install PowerShell on Debian 10 - idroot [13:18] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 29.23 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 64.35 swarm size (avg): 237.31 [13:18] techrights-ipfs/fn IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 29.23 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 64.35 swarm size (avg): 237.31 [13:24] *asusbox2 (~rianne@haii6za73zabc.irc) has joined #techrights [13:24] *asusbox2 (~rianne@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:f4bf:2fd3:cddc:7fb5) has joined #techrights [13:24] *rianne (~rianne@haii6za73zabc.irc) has joined #techrights [13:25] *rianne (~rianne@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:f4bf:2fd3:cddc:7fb5) has joined #techrights [13:26] techrights-bot #microsoft pretends to 'buying' some #security firm (just hiring its workers, but making it look BIG) will improve security while Microsoft puts #nsa back doors in everything http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA [13:26] techrights-bot/fn #microsoft pretends to 'buying' some #security firm (just hiring its workers, but making it look BIG) will improve security while Microsoft puts #nsa back doors in everything http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA [13:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights [13:26] TechrightsBot-tr/fn techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights [13:27] techrights-bot Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151891 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [13:27] techrights-bot/fn Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151891 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [13:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [13:27] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [13:28] techrights-bot #enigmail should never have let #mozilla take over #encryption in #thunderbird because Mozilla now introduces bugs that break encryption (E2EE), not fixing them for months... Mozilla, WTH? [13:28] techrights-bot/fn #enigmail should never have let #mozilla take over #encryption in #thunderbird because Mozilla now introduces bugs that break encryption (E2EE), not fixing them for months... Mozilla, WTH? [13:31] techrights-bot #PopOS 21.04 Beta is Available with Cosmic Desktop. Download and Test Now http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151888 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [13:31] techrights-bot/fn #PopOS 21.04 Beta is Available with Cosmic Desktop. Download and Test Now http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151888 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [13:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Pop!_OS 21.04 Beta is Available with Cosmic Desktop. Download and Test Now | Tux Machines [13:31] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | Pop!_OS 21.04 Beta is Available with Cosmic Desktop. Download and Test Now | Tux Machines [13:32] techrights-bot #ibm #covid19 #greed #supersupreaders "Are _workers_ eager to go back? Personally, I am not. Now, senior execs, on the other other hand... All they see is $$$ flying out the windows of the hundreds of properties\facilities they OWN and operate" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bafaIYZ#replies [13:32] techrights-bot/fn #ibm #covid19 #greed #supersupreaders "Are _workers_ eager to go back? Personally, I am not. Now, senior execs, on the other other hand... All they see is $$$ flying out the windows of the hundreds of properties\facilities they OWN and operate" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bafaIYZ#replies [13:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | why is ibm he-l bent on returning to office - post regarding IBM layoffs [13:32] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.thelayoff.com | why is ibm he-l bent on returning to office - post regarding IBM layoffs [13:37] *asusbox2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:38] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:40] *asusbox2 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [13:40] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [13:47] techrights-bot "In Turkish #trademark practice, it is agreed that well-known marks need broader protection than ordinary marks. Turkey has various statutes extending the scope of protection of well-known marks to different goods/services where certain conditions exist." https://www.marques.org/blogs/class46/?XID=BHA4996 [13:47] techrights-bot/fn "In Turkish #trademark practice, it is agreed that well-known marks need broader protection than ordinary marks. Turkey has various statutes extending the scope of protection of well-known marks to different goods/services where certain conditions exist." https://www.marques.org/blogs/class46/?XID=BHA4996 [13:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.marques.org | MARQUES [13:47] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.marques.org | MARQUES [13:47] techrights-bot "In this post, Amy Thomas (RTA, PhD Candidate, University of Glasgow) identifies empirical research surrounding the relationship between #copyright and T&Cs, revealing a complex area where law, contract and technology work (often at odds with each other) to regulate user creativity." https://www.create.ac.uk/blog/2021/05/28/21-for-2021-user-creativity-in-online-platforms-copyright-or-contract/ [13:47] techrights-bot/fn "In this post, Amy Thomas (RTA, PhD Candidate, University of Glasgow) identifies empirical research surrounding the relationship between #copyright and T&Cs, revealing a complex area where law, contract and technology work (often at odds with each other) to regulate user creativity." https://www.create.ac.uk/blog/2021/05/28/21-for-2021-user-creativity-in-online-platforms-copyright-or-contract/ [13:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.create.ac.uk | 21 for 2021: User Creativity in Online Platforms Copyright or Contract? CREATe [13:47] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.create.ac.uk | 21 for 2021: User Creativity in Online Platforms Copyright or Contract? CREATe [13:48] *Guest5552 has quit (Quit: Leaving) [13:48] techrights-bot #copyright #cartel (or "Mafia") in #italy http://copyrightblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/05/27/towards-the-italian-implementation-of-the-cdsm-directive/ #eu #monopolies [13:48] techrights-bot/fn #copyright #cartel (or "Mafia") in #italy http://copyrightblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/05/27/towards-the-italian-implementation-of-the-cdsm-directive/ #eu #monopolies [13:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-copyrightblog.kluweriplaw.com | Towards the Italian implementation of the CDSM Directive - Kluwer Copyright Blog [13:49] TechrightsBot-tr/fn copyrightblog.kluweriplaw.com | Towards the Italian implementation of the CDSM Directive - Kluwer Copyright Blog [13:50] techrights-bot Who would have thought you can 'own' the word "Footware https://www.thefashionlaw.com/nike-beats-puma-is-latest-round-of-uk-fight-over-footware-trademark/ [13:50] techrights-bot/fn Who would have thought you can 'own' the word "Footware https://www.thefashionlaw.com/nike-beats-puma-is-latest-round-of-uk-fight-over-footware-trademark/ [13:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Empty reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.thefashionlaw.com/nike-beats-puma-is-latest-round-of-uk-fight-over-footware-trademark/ ) [13:50] TechrightsBot-tr/fn Empty reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.thefashionlaw.com/nike-beats-puma-is-latest-round-of-uk-fight-over-footware-trademark/ ) [13:52] *XRevan86 has quit (Quit: Gateway shutdown) [13:52] techrights-bot Would have have imagined a combination of two colours (yes!) could be 'owned'... http://trademarkblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/05/27/sometimes-they-come-back-horror-movie-no-general-court-of-the-eu-on-colour-combinations/ [13:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-trademarkblog.kluweriplaw.com | SOMETIMES THEY COME BACK.. Horror movie? No - General Court of the EU on colour combinations! - Kluwer Trademark Blog [13:52] techrights-bot/fn Would have have imagined a combination of two colours (yes!) could be 'owned'... http://trademarkblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/05/27/sometimes-they-come-back-horror-movie-no-general-court-of-the-eu-on-colour-combinations/ [13:52] TechrightsBot-tr/fn trademarkblog.kluweriplaw.com | SOMETIMES THEY COME BACK.. Horror movie? No - General Court of the EU on colour combinations! - Kluwer Trademark Blog [13:52] *XRevan86 (~XRevan86@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #techrights [13:54] techrights-bot The singer should sue this #patent holder for #trademark violation :-) https://www.thecentralvirginian.com/news/state/european-patent-office-has-issued-rivanna-a-notice-of-allowance-for-european-patent-application-ultrasound/image_d1b0c3e9-fc63-5119-9234-d4f5c1618949.html [13:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-European Patent Office has issued RIVANNA a notice of allowance for European patent application. Ultrasound Imaging of Specular Reflecting Target. | State | thecentralvirginian.com [13:54] techrights-bot/fn The singer should sue this #patent holder for #trademark violation :-) https://www.thecentralvirginian.com/news/state/european-patent-office-has-issued-rivanna-a-notice-of-allowance-for-european-patent-application-ultrasound/image_d1b0c3e9-fc63-5119-9234-d4f5c1618949.html [13:54] TechrightsBot-tr/fn European Patent Office has issued RIVANNA a notice of allowance for European patent application. Ultrasound Imaging of Specular Reflecting Target. | State | thecentralvirginian.com [13:54] XRevan86 Hm, I wonder what I did, the last message here for me is "(2021-06-03 22:16:32) schestowitz: with a co-founder banned" [13:54] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] Hm, I wonder what I did, the last message here for me is "(2021-06-03 22:16:32) schestowitz: with a co-founder banned" [13:54] XRevan86 If anyone wrote me after that time, I didn't see it. [13:54] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] If anyone wrote me after that time, I didn't see it. [13:55] techrights-bot #patents are making #car production legal land mines https://www.bmwblog.com/2021/06/02/bmw-files-patent-for-virtual-mirror-hud-mirror/ a lot are bogus #swpats [13:55] techrights-bot/fn #patents are making #car production legal land mines https://www.bmwblog.com/2021/06/02/bmw-files-patent-for-virtual-mirror-hud-mirror/ a lot are bogus #swpats [13:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bmwblog.com | BMW files patent for virtual mirror (HUD Mirror) [13:55] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.bmwblog.com | BMW files patent for virtual mirror (HUD Mirror) [13:56] XRevan86 or rather, my client logged until 04:30 UTC, so after that actually [13:56] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] or rather, my client logged until 04:30 UTC, so after that actually [13:56] schestowitz maybe [13:56] schestowitz/fn maybe [13:56] schestowitz the TR-FN bridge worked OK [13:56] schestowitz/fn the TR-FN bridge worked OK [13:56] schestowitz but I'm not on "that other network" [13:56] schestowitz/fn but I'm not on "that other network" [13:56] schestowitz so wondered if it has been that quiet [13:56] schestowitz/fn so wondered if it has been that quiet [13:56] schestowitz or maybe you culled something [13:56] schestowitz/fn or maybe you culled something [13:56] XRevan86 It's not the bridges, it's biboumi [13:56] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] It's not the bridges, it's biboumi [13:57] XRevan86 it stopped recording into muclogline for some reason [13:57] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] it stopped recording into muclogline for some reason ● Jun 03 [14:02] *asusbox2 (~rianne@haii6za73zabc.irc) has joined #techrights [14:02] XRevan86 annoying [14:02] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] annoying [14:02] schestowitz so was there something there we did not see? [14:02] schestowitz/fn so was there something there we did not see? [14:02] *asusbox2 (~rianne@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:f4bf:2fd3:cddc:7fb5) has joined #techrights [14:02] *rianne (~rianne@haii6za73zabc.irc) has joined #techrights [14:02] XRevan86 No, there's something I didn't see. [14:02] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] No, there's something I didn't see. [14:02] *rianne (~rianne@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:f4bf:2fd3:cddc:7fb5) has joined #techrights [14:02] schestowitz either way, if we create dependency on bridges, they must be reliable [14:02] schestowitz/fn either way, if we create dependency on bridges, they must be reliable [14:02] schestowitz otherwise people might be led to networks that aren't reliably seen [14:02] schestowitz/fn otherwise people might be led to networks that aren't reliably seen [14:03] schestowitz (with wrong expectation of participation) [14:03] schestowitz/fn (with wrong expectation of participation) [14:03] BaronVladimirHar The government makes them put so much junk on cars these days. Like safety sensors that fight you for the wheel and cost so much that you may as well chuck the car if you crash it once. [14:03] BaronVladimirHar/fn The government makes them put so much junk on cars these days. Like safety sensors that fight you for the wheel and cost so much that you may as well chuck the car if you crash it once. [14:03] XRevan86 Regarding "the other network", moderation needs to be resolved first. [14:03] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] Regarding "the other network", moderation needs to be resolved first. [14:04] schestowitz BaronVladimirHar: congrats [14:04] schestowitz/fn BaronVladimirHar: congrats [14:04] schestowitz the troll now uses you to smear us [14:04] schestowitz/fn the troll now uses you to smear us [14:04] XRevan86 I think they noticed that the bridge left the premises %). [14:04] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] I think they noticed that the bridge left the premises %). [14:05] schestowitz I wonder what they say there, as yesterday it seemed like 'their #techrights channel was pure noise and disruption [14:05] schestowitz/fn I wonder what they say there, as yesterday it seemed like 'their #techrights channel was pure noise and disruption [14:06] BaronVladimirHar Well, maybe he can mention that he called me a pedophile over private message, unprompted. [14:06] BaronVladimirHar/fn Well, maybe he can mention that he called me a pedophile over private message, unprompted. [14:07] BaronVladimirHar When I didn't respond and closed that window, he started sending me more messages again until I blocked him. [14:07] BaronVladimirHar/fn When I didn't respond and closed that window, he started sending me more messages again until I blocked him. [14:07] techrights-bot Silly gimmicks to impress silly 'friends' https://dissociatedpress.net/2021/06/02/the-remarkable-2-needs-refinement-writing-workflow-and-usability/ [14:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dissociatedpress.net | The reMarkable 2 needs reFinement: Writing, workflow and usability : Dissociated Press [14:07] techrights-bot/fn Silly gimmicks to impress silly 'friends' https://dissociatedpress.net/2021/06/02/the-remarkable-2-needs-refinement-writing-workflow-and-usability/ [14:07] BaronVladimirHar Now that he's over on Liberal Chat, he's back. I told you the bridge was a problem. [14:07] TechrightsBot-tr/fn dissociatedpress.net | The reMarkable 2 needs reFinement: Writing, workflow and usability : Dissociated Press [14:07] BaronVladimirHar/fn Now that he's over on Liberal Chat, he's back. I told you the bridge was a problem. [14:08] XRevan86 The screenshot is made at irc.techrights.org [14:08] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] The screenshot is made at irc.techrights.org [14:08] BaronVladimirHar He has done some pretty disgusting things, but it seems now that their goto is to call everyone they don't like a pedophile. It's a bit much, but he is a drama queen. [14:08] BaronVladimirHar/fn He has done some pretty disgusting things, but it seems now that their goto is to call everyone they don't like a pedophile. It's a bit much, but he is a drama queen. [14:09] BaronVladimirHar I wouldn't worry about what his fellow Twitheads think. Most of his posts get like 2-3 likes, tops. [14:09] BaronVladimirHar/fn I wouldn't worry about what his fellow Twitheads think. Most of his posts get like 2-3 likes, tops. [14:09] *asusbox2 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [14:09] *asusbox2 (~rianne@haii6za73zabc.irc) has joined #techrights [14:09] *asusbox2 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [14:09] *asusbox2 (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [14:10] BaronVladimirHar The accusations are ramping up now that it's more obvious that the hive of pedophilia is actually in Microsoft and it was (maybe is) at the top of the company. Along with sexual harassment in general that they tolerated for at least the entire time Gates was involved directly there. [14:10] BaronVladimirHar/fn The accusations are ramping up now that it's more obvious that the hive of pedophilia is actually in Microsoft and it was (maybe is) at the top of the company. Along with sexual harassment in general that they tolerated for at least the entire time Gates was involved directly there. [14:10] BaronVladimirHar Which only officially ended last year. [14:10] BaronVladimirHar/fn Which only officially ended last year. [14:12] techrights-bot You Can Now Try the New COSMIC Desktop Environment with #PopOS 21.04 Beta http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151888#comment-29847 #gnu #linux [14:12] techrights-bot/fn You Can Now Try the New COSMIC Desktop Environment with #PopOS 21.04 Beta http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151888#comment-29847 #gnu #linux [14:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Pop!_OS 21.04 Beta is Available with Cosmic Desktop. Download and Test Now | Tux Machines [14:12] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | Pop!_OS 21.04 Beta is Available with Cosmic Desktop. Download and Test Now | Tux Machines [14:13] BaronVladimirHar Microsoft Edge moves the focus away from the engine and towards Microsoft's search engine. My guess is that they really don't care if you use Firefox other than it doesn't default to Bing. [14:13] BaronVladimirHar/fn Microsoft Edge moves the focus away from the engine and towards Microsoft's search engine. My guess is that they really don't care if you use Firefox other than it doesn't default to Bing. [14:14] BaronVladimirHar I noticed that they don't annoy you to switch away from Vivaldi. Maybe that's their search engine deal. [14:14] BaronVladimirHar/fn I noticed that they don't annoy you to switch away from Vivaldi. Maybe that's their search engine deal. [14:14] techrights-bot #BSDNow 405: OOM Killer Feature https://www.bsdnow.tv/405 #bsd #unix [14:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bsdnow.tv | BSD Now 405: OOM Killer Feature [14:14] techrights-bot/fn #BSDNow 405: OOM Killer Feature https://www.bsdnow.tv/405 #bsd #unix [14:14] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.bsdnow.tv | BSD Now 405: OOM Killer Feature [14:20] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:21] *asusbox2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:21] *rianne (~rianne@haii6za73zabc.irc) has joined #techrights [14:21] *asusbox (~rianne@haii6za73zabc.irc) has joined #techrights [14:21] *asusbox (~rianne@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:f4bf:2fd3:cddc:7fb5) has joined #techrights [14:21] techrights-bot Fix: As root user, remove all /etc/sv/* folders EXCEPT /etc/sv/getty-*" https://antixlinux.com/antix-19-4-runit-bug-and-fix/ [14:21] techrights-bot/fn Fix: As root user, remove all /etc/sv/* folders EXCEPT /etc/sv/getty-*" https://antixlinux.com/antix-19-4-runit-bug-and-fix/ [14:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-antixlinux.com | antiX-19.4 runit bug and fix antiX Linux [14:21] TechrightsBot-tr/fn antixlinux.com | antiX-19.4 runit bug and fix antiX Linux [14:22] techrights-bot "There is a bug in the runit editions of antiX-19.4 (full and base) after installation via the gui installer. Fix: As root user, remove all /etc/sv/* folders EXCEPT /etc/sv/getty-*" https://antixlinux.com/antix-19-4-runit-bug-and-fix/ [14:22] techrights-bot/fn "There is a bug in the runit editions of antiX-19.4 (full and base) after installation via the gui installer. Fix: As root user, remove all /etc/sv/* folders EXCEPT /etc/sv/getty-*" https://antixlinux.com/antix-19-4-runit-bug-and-fix/ [14:22] *asusbox2 has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [14:23] *asusbox has quit (connection closed) [14:23] *asusbox (~rianne@haii6za73zabc.irc) has joined #techrights [14:23] *asusbox has quit (Client Quit) [14:23] *asusbox (~rianne@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:f4bf:2fd3:cddc:7fb5) has joined #techrights [14:24] techrights-bot #Manjaro Vs #EndeavourOS : Which Ones The Best Arch-Based Distribution? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151892 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [14:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro Vs EndeavourOS: Which Ones The Best Arch-Based Distribution? | Tux Machines [14:24] techrights-bot/fn #Manjaro Vs #EndeavourOS : Which Ones The Best Arch-Based Distribution? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151892 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [14:24] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro Vs EndeavourOS: Which Ones The Best Arch-Based Distribution? | Tux Machines [14:24] BaronVladimirHar With the hundreds of things moved over to use systemd, I'm sure there always will be "bugs" without it. [14:24] BaronVladimirHar/fn With the hundreds of things moved over to use systemd, I'm sure there always will be "bugs" without it. [14:26] techrights-bot "Many of these #IBM buildings/campuses were at 25% occupancy before Covid even started. Another example of IBM execs being simply afraid/unable to make any real decisions." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bafaIYZ#replies [14:26] techrights-bot/fn "Many of these #IBM buildings/campuses were at 25% occupancy before Covid even started. Another example of IBM execs being simply afraid/unable to make any real decisions." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bafaIYZ#replies [14:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | why is ibm he-l bent on returning to office - post regarding IBM layoffs [14:26] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.thelayoff.com | why is ibm he-l bent on returning to office - post regarding IBM layoffs [14:27] techrights-bot "Because #IBM is lead by id--ts" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bafaIYZ#replies [14:27] techrights-bot/fn "Because #IBM is lead by id--ts" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bafaIYZ#replies [14:28] techrights-bot " #IBM continues to struggle to grow their revenue consistently as it has been in a steady decline over the past decade" https://seekingalpha.com/article/4432812-how-much-is-ibm-worth [14:28] techrights-bot/fn " #IBM continues to struggle to grow their revenue consistently as it has been in a steady decline over the past decade" https://seekingalpha.com/article/4432812-how-much-is-ibm-worth [14:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://seekingalpha.com/article/4432812-how-much-is-ibm-worth ) [14:28] TechrightsBot-tr/fn ( status 403 @ https://seekingalpha.com/article/4432812-how-much-is-ibm-worth ) [14:30] schestowitz BaronVladimirHar: it's OK, buy support [14:30] schestowitz/fn BaronVladimirHar: it's OK, buy support [14:31] schestowitz also buy support from Microsoft for UEFI 'secure' boot [14:31] schestowitz/fn also buy support from Microsoft for UEFI 'secure' boot [14:31] schestowitz put there by Red Hat employee http://techrights.org/2020/07/30/wontboot-meme/ http://techrights.org/2020/07/30/wontboot/ [14:31] schestowitz/fn put there by Red Hat employee http://techrights.org/2020/07/30/wontboot-meme/ http://techrights.org/2020/07/30/wontboot/ [14:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] It Was Only a Matter of Time All Along | Techrights [14:31] TechrightsBot-tr/fn techrights.org | [Meme] It Was Only a Matter of Time All Along | Techrights [14:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Karma or Hubris? Is #TorvaldsWasRight a Thing Now? | Techrights [14:31] TechrightsBot-tr/fn techrights.org | Karma or Hubris? Is #TorvaldsWasRight a Thing Now? | Techrights [14:31] schestowitz maybe Microsoft can do something to make your GNU/Linux boot again [14:31] schestowitz/fn maybe Microsoft can do something to make your GNU/Linux boot again [14:31] schestowitz buy support [14:31] schestowitz/fn buy support [14:31] schestowitz or outsource the machine to Azure [14:31] schestowitz/fn or outsource the machine to Azure [14:31] schestowitz and stop worrying.. [14:31] schestowitz/fn and stop worrying.. [14:32] schestowitz ooppppppp! https://www.theregister.com/2016/11/28/microsoft_update_servers_left_all_azure_rhel_instances_hackable/ [14:32] schestowitz/fn ooppppppp! https://www.theregister.com/2016/11/28/microsoft_update_servers_left_all_azure_rhel_instances_hackable/ [14:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Microsoft update servers left all Azure RHEL instances hackable The Register [14:32] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.theregister.com | Microsoft update servers left all Azure RHEL instances hackable The Register [14:32] schestowitz https://blog.uncooperative.org/blog/2015/08/03/shim-info/ [14:32] schestowitz/fn https://blog.uncooperative.org/blog/2015/08/03/shim-info/ [14:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.uncooperative.org | Secure Boot Fedora, RHEL, and Shim Upstream Maintenance: Government Involvement or Lack Thereof - The Uncoperative Organization [14:32] TechrightsBot-tr/fn blog.uncooperative.org | Secure Boot Fedora, RHEL, and Shim Upstream Maintenance: Government Involvement or Lack Thereof - The Uncoperative Organization [14:34] *guysoft42 (~guysoft@2a0d:6fc1:2:1f00:4617:149c:d3be:6c48) has joined #techrights [14:35] techrights-bot #AlmaLinux Overview by an #Ubuntu User http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151893 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [14:35] techrights-bot/fn #AlmaLinux Overview by an #Ubuntu User http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151893 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [14:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AlmaLinux Overview by an Ubuntu User | Tux Machines [14:35] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | AlmaLinux Overview by an Ubuntu User | Tux Machines [14:37] BaronVladimirHar "Duffy says he was paid less than US$3500 for the vulnerability disclosures under Microsoft's bug bounty but did not name a precise figure." [14:37] BaronVladimirHar/fn "Duffy says he was paid less than US$3500 for the vulnerability disclosures under Microsoft's bug bounty but did not name a precise figure." [14:37] BaronVladimirHar LOL [14:37] BaronVladimirHar/fn LOL [14:37] BaronVladimirHar You can make a lot more than that by hitting them with malware, so that's what everyone does instead. [14:37] BaronVladimirHar/fn You can make a lot more than that by hitting them with malware, so that's what everyone does instead. [14:38] BaronVladimirHar Maybe 1,000-5,000 times more by encrypting their files and shutting down a gasoline pipeline or meat productions until they pay. [14:38] BaronVladimirHar/fn Maybe 1,000-5,000 times more by encrypting their files and shutting down a gasoline pipeline or meat productions until they pay. [14:38] techrights-bot Edge AI system combines Foxconn FXN3102 Arm SoC with Hailo-8 or #Lightspeeur 2801S AI accelerator http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151860#comment-29848 [14:38] techrights-bot/fn Edge AI system combines Foxconn FXN3102 Arm SoC with Hailo-8 or #Lightspeeur 2801S AI accelerator http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151860#comment-29848 [14:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Compact edge AI box runs Ubuntu Server on 24-core Arm SoC with choice of NPUs | Tux Machines [14:38] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | Compact edge AI box runs Ubuntu Server on 24-core Arm SoC with choice of NPUs | Tux Machines [14:38] BaronVladimirHar If Microsoft isn't going to pay well for people to report bugs then they may as well not bother, because the people who turn them over to be fixed would probably have done so anyway. [14:38] BaronVladimirHar/fn If Microsoft isn't going to pay well for people to report bugs then they may as well not bother, because the people who turn them over to be fixed would probably have done so anyway. [14:39] BaronVladimirHar What Microsoft is actually saying is that they don't care about CVEs. [14:39] BaronVladimirHar/fn What Microsoft is actually saying is that they don't care about CVEs. [14:39] techrights-bot #KaliLinux 2021.2 Released : Whats New http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151834#comment-29849 #gnu #linux [14:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kali Linux 2021.2 Release (Kaboxer, Kali-Tweaks, Bleeding-Edge & Privileged Ports) | Tux Machines [14:39] techrights-bot/fn #KaliLinux 2021.2 Released : Whats New http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151834#comment-29849 #gnu #linux [14:39] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | Kali Linux 2021.2 Release (Kaboxer, Kali-Tweaks, Bleeding-Edge & Privileged Ports) | Tux Machines [14:40] techrights-bot #PopOS 21.04 has a Beta out now with their new COSMIC desktop http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151888#comment-29850 [14:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Pop!_OS 21.04 Beta is Available with Cosmic Desktop. Download and Test Now | Tux Machines [14:40] techrights-bot/fn #PopOS 21.04 has a Beta out now with their new COSMIC desktop http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151888#comment-29850 [14:40] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | Pop!_OS 21.04 Beta is Available with Cosmic Desktop. Download and Test Now | Tux Machines [14:42] BaronVladimirHar Garrett acts as if "Secure Boot" has anything to do with security, after nothing Microsoft has ever done implies that they care. [14:42] BaronVladimirHar/fn Garrett acts as if "Secure Boot" has anything to do with security, after nothing Microsoft has ever done implies that they care. [14:42] BaronVladimirHar I think that someone at Microsoft decided it would make Windows Activation cracks harder to get away with and maybe plug a revenue leak. [14:42] BaronVladimirHar/fn I think that someone at Microsoft decided it would make Windows Activation cracks harder to get away with and maybe plug a revenue leak. [14:43] techrights-bot #HarmonyOS launched on #Huawei #MatePad tablets, Watch 3 smartwatches http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151894 #TuxMachines [14:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | HarmonyOS launched on Huawei MatePad tablets, Watch 3 smartwatches | Tux Machines [14:43] techrights-bot/fn #HarmonyOS launched on #Huawei #MatePad tablets, Watch 3 smartwatches http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151894 #TuxMachines [14:43] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | HarmonyOS launched on Huawei MatePad tablets, Watch 3 smartwatches | Tux Machines [14:44] Old_Man Am I still silenced here, due to schestowitz's hypocrisy? [14:44] Old_Man/fn Am I still silenced here, due to schestowitz's hypocrisy? [14:46] BaronVladimirHar Windows is littered with "security" theater. Like "Ransomware Protection" that has four known bypasses and Microsoft has said they don't plan on fixing any of them. [14:46] BaronVladimirHar/fn Windows is littered with "security" theater. Like "Ransomware Protection" that has four known bypasses and Microsoft has said they don't plan on fixing any of them. [14:46] BaronVladimirHar Oh, and it breaks thousands of legitimate applications. [14:46] BaronVladimirHar/fn Oh, and it breaks thousands of legitimate applications. [14:47] BaronVladimirHar If you started whitelisting things to limit the damage to legitimate applications, malware could also evade it by dropping itself in the path of something likely to be overridden by the user, so that would be a fifth way around it. [14:47] BaronVladimirHar/fn If you started whitelisting things to limit the damage to legitimate applications, malware could also evade it by dropping itself in the path of something likely to be overridden by the user, so that would be a fifth way around it. [14:47] techrights-bot Code contributions to GCC no longer have to be assigned to FSF, says compiler body http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151827#comment-29851 now #MicrosoftTim adds to the fire... http://techrights.org/2021/06/02/gcc-copyright-assignment/ [14:47] techrights-bot/fn Code contributions to GCC no longer have to be assigned to FSF, says compiler body http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151827#comment-29851 now #MicrosoftTim adds to the fire... http://techrights.org/2021/06/02/gcc-copyright-assignment/ [14:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FSF Copyright Assignment and GCC, GCC 9.4 Released | Tux Machines [14:47] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | FSF Copyright Assignment and GCC, GCC 9.4 Released | Tux Machines [14:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | It Remains Largely Unclear Whose Idea It Was to Change GCC Copyright Assignment Practices (or How/Why It Started) | Techrights [14:47] TechrightsBot-tr/fn techrights.org | It Remains Largely Unclear Whose Idea It Was to Change GCC Copyright Assignment Practices (or How/Why It Started) | Techrights [14:48] BaronVladimirHar I think Torvalds' biggest objection was the PE-only restriction, but that's not really a big one. Most distributions already shipped with binfmt_misc. Wine won't work without it. [14:48] BaronVladimirHar/fn I think Torvalds' biggest objection was the PE-only restriction, but that's not really a big one. Most distributions already shipped with binfmt_misc. Wine won't work without it. [14:48] BaronVladimirHar I don't believe that Mono would either. [14:48] BaronVladimirHar/fn I don't believe that Mono would either. [14:48] BaronVladimirHar That uses PE. [14:48] BaronVladimirHar/fn That uses PE. [14:49] MinceR immibis: no, i said it isn't _his_ social circle [14:49] MinceR/fn immibis: no, i said it isn't _his_ social circle [14:49] MinceR this isn't a microsoft/ibm fanboy meeting ground [14:49] MinceR/fn this isn't a microsoft/ibm fanboy meeting ground [14:50] BaronVladimirHar https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/02/amazon_sidewalk_mesh/ [14:50] BaronVladimirHar/fn https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/02/amazon_sidewalk_mesh/ [14:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Deadline draws near to avoid auto-joining Amazon's mesh network Sidewalk The Register [14:50] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.theregister.com | Deadline draws near to avoid auto-joining Amazon's mesh network Sidewalk The Register [14:50] techrights-bot #Nvidia and #Valve Bringing DLSS to Linux via Steam Proton http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151810#comment-29852 [14:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Nintendo, NVIDIA, AMD, Wolfenstein, and Ray Tracing | Tux Machines [14:50] techrights-bot/fn #Nvidia and #Valve Bringing DLSS to Linux via Steam Proton http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151810#comment-29852 [14:50] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Nintendo, NVIDIA, AMD, Wolfenstein, and Ray Tracing | Tux Machines [14:50] BaronVladimirHar MARISOL will be participating in an Amazon botnet soon. [14:50] BaronVladimirHar/fn MARISOL will be participating in an Amazon botnet soon. [14:51] schestowitz "smart cities" [14:51] schestowitz/fn "smart cities" [14:52] techrights-bot "I mentioned being young because there's a reason given that they want to go back to office because of career counseling blah blah." #ibm #layoffs #exodus https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bafaIYZ#replies [14:52] techrights-bot/fn "I mentioned being young because there's a reason given that they want to go back to office because of career counseling blah blah." #ibm #layoffs #exodus https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bafaIYZ#replies [14:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | why is ibm he-l bent on returning to office - post regarding IBM layoffs [14:52] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.thelayoff.com | why is ibm he-l bent on returning to office - post regarding IBM layoffs [14:55] techrights-bot #RHEL 8.4 Released Download DVD ISO Images for Free http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151454#comment-29853 #ibm [14:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat: Release of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.4 and More | Tux Machines [14:55] techrights-bot/fn #RHEL 8.4 Released Download DVD ISO Images for Free http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151454#comment-29853 #ibm [14:55] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat: Release of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.4 and More | Tux Machines [14:56] schestowitz/fn UEFI: https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/users-warned-against-upgrading-to-ubuntu-2104 [14:56] schestowitz UEFI: https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/users-warned-against-upgrading-to-ubuntu-2104 [14:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Users warned against upgrading to Ubuntu 21.04 | TechRadar [14:56] TechrightsBot-tr/fn Users warned against upgrading to Ubuntu 21.04 | TechRadar [14:56] schestowitz So secure... that you cannot get the latest version [14:56] schestowitz/fn So secure... that you cannot get the latest version [14:56] schestowitz stay with old and unpatched [14:56] schestowitz/fn stay with old and unpatched [14:56] schestowitz so secure... that machines stop booting [14:56] schestowitz/fn so secure... that machines stop booting [14:56] schestowitz mission-critical operations would LOVE that [14:56] schestowitz/fn mission-critical operations would LOVE that [14:56] MinceR you're supposed to "upgrade" to Backdoors10 :> [14:56] MinceR/fn you're supposed to "upgrade" to Backdoors10 :> [14:56] schestowitz machines that are perfectly operational [14:56] schestowitz/fn machines that are perfectly operational [14:56] MinceR just ask mjg's bosses [14:56] schestowitz would not even boot [14:56] MinceR/fn just ask mjg's bosses [14:56] schestowitz/fn would not even boot [14:57] schestowitz Microsoft said "NO!" [14:57] schestowitz/fn Microsoft said "NO!" [14:57] schestowitz Microsoft NSA [14:57] schestowitz/fn Microsoft NSA [14:57] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2020/07/30/wontboot-meme/ http://techrights.org/2020/07/30/wontboot/ [14:57] schestowitz/fn http://techrights.org/2020/07/30/wontboot-meme/ http://techrights.org/2020/07/30/wontboot/ [14:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] It Was Only a Matter of Time All Along | Techrights [14:57] TechrightsBot-tr/fn techrights.org | [Meme] It Was Only a Matter of Time All Along | Techrights [14:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Karma or Hubris? Is #TorvaldsWasRight a Thing Now? | Techrights [14:57] TechrightsBot-tr/fn techrights.org | Karma or Hubris? Is #TorvaldsWasRight a Thing Now? | Techrights [14:58] techrights-bot Stable Kernels: 5.12.9, 5.10.42, 5.4.124, 4.19.193, 4.14.235, 4.9.271 , and 4.4.271 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151895 #Kernel #Linux #TuxMachines [14:58] techrights-bot/fn Stable Kernels: 5.12.9, 5.10.42, 5.4.124, 4.19.193, 4.14.235, 4.9.271 , and 4.4.271 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151895 #Kernel #Linux #TuxMachines [14:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Stable Kernels: 5.12.9, 5.10.42, 5.4.124, 4.19.193, 4.14.235, 4.9.271 , and 4.4.271 | Tux Machines [14:58] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | Stable Kernels: 5.12.9, 5.10.42, 5.4.124, 4.19.193, 4.14.235, 4.9.271 , and 4.4.271 | Tux Machines [14:59] immibis MinceR: it doesn't have to be "your" social circle, to be cancelling [14:59] immibis/fn MinceR: it doesn't have to be "your" social circle, to be cancelling [14:59] MinceR immibis: don't worry, he'll be able to get jobs trolling for microsoft and ibm even if he can't join TR channels [14:59] MinceR/fn immibis: don't worry, he'll be able to get jobs trolling for microsoft and ibm even if he can't join TR channels ● Jun 03 [15:00] MinceR for example, he's also active on famous bill gates fanboy site twitter [15:00] MinceR/fn for example, he's also active on famous bill gates fanboy site twitter [15:00] immibis schestowitz: sounds like a garden variety bootloader bug, no? [15:00] immibis/fn schestowitz: sounds like a garden variety bootloader bug, no? [15:00] immibis or bios bug [15:00] immibis/fn or bios bug [15:00] techrights-bot "Also new in Red Hat Software Collections 3.7 is Developer Toolset 10.1, which features GNU Compiler Collection (GCC) 10" but #redhat is also attacking the founder of GNU while hailing and licking the boots of #microsoft https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2021/06/03/red-hat-software-collections-37-and-red-hat-developer-toolset-101-now-generally [15:00] techrights-bot/fn "Also new in Red Hat Software Collections 3.7 is Developer Toolset 10.1, which features GNU Compiler Collection (GCC) 10" but #redhat is also attacking the founder of GNU while hailing and licking the boots of #microsoft https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2021/06/03/red-hat-software-collections-37-and-red-hat-developer-toolset-101-now-generally [15:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developers.redhat.com | Red Hat Software Collections 3.7 and Red Hat Developer Toolset 10.1 now generally available | Red Hat Developer [15:00] TechrightsBot-tr/fn developers.redhat.com | Red Hat Software Collections 3.7 and Red Hat Developer Toolset 10.1 now generally available | Red Hat Developer [15:00] MinceR the more complicated your firmware is, the more likely it is to be crippled by bugs [15:00] MinceR/fn the more complicated your firmware is, the more likely it is to be crippled by bugs [15:00] MinceR and uefi is probably the most complicated of them all [15:00] MinceR/fn and uefi is probably the most complicated of them all [15:01] techrights-bot "Open Neuroscience is heavily dependent on the availability of Free/Open Source Software (FOSS) tools that support the modern scientific process." https://neuroblog.fedoraproject.org/2021/06/03/showcase-at-cns-2021.html [15:01] techrights-bot/fn "Open Neuroscience is heavily dependent on the availability of Free/Open Source Software (FOSS) tools that support the modern scientific process." https://neuroblog.fedoraproject.org/2021/06/03/showcase-at-cns-2021.html [15:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-neuroblog.fedoraproject.org | Showcase at CNS*2021 | NeuroFedora: Blog [15:01] TechrightsBot-tr/fn neuroblog.fedoraproject.org | Showcase at CNS*2021 | NeuroFedora: Blog [15:02] techrights-bot #ibm #redhat how calls people like it calls #clowncomputing (servers, "hybrid clown") https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/6/hybrid-work-how-prevent-turnover [15:02] techrights-bot/fn #ibm #redhat how calls people like it calls #clowncomputing (servers, "hybrid clown") https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/6/hybrid-work-how-prevent-turnover [15:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | Hybrid work: How to prepare for the turnover tsunami | The Enterprisers Project [15:02] TechrightsBot-tr/fn enterprisersproject.com | Hybrid work: How to prepare for the turnover tsunami | The Enterprisers Project [15:04] schestowitz MinceR: it should boot [15:04] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] MinceR: it should boot [15:04] schestowitz even if in doubt [15:04] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] even if in doubt [15:04] schestowitz the bigger security issue aren't bootkits [15:04] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] the bigger security issue aren't bootkits [15:04] schestowitz but people who STILL uses WIndos [15:04] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] but people who STILL uses WIndos [15:04] schestowitz despite knowing it's back-doored [15:04] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] despite knowing it's back-doored [15:04] MinceR well, if they wanted it to boot, they shouldn't have let microsoft/intel people develop it [15:04] MinceR/fn well, if they wanted it to boot, they shouldn't have let microsoft/intel people develop it [15:04] schestowitz and then pipelines get shut down... [15:04] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] and then pipelines get shut down... [15:05] schestowitz MinceR: Intel is a Red Hat partner [15:05] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] MinceR: Intel is a Red Hat partner [15:05] schestowitz so is Microsoft [15:05] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] so is Microsoft [15:05] schestowitz it's an article I planned for today [15:05] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] it's an article I planned for today [15:05] MinceR one big government-sponsored cartel [15:05] MinceR/fn one big government-sponsored cartel [15:05] schestowitz But I have severe networking issues [15:05] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] But I have severe networking issues [15:05] MinceR "free market", my ass [15:05] MinceR/fn "free market", my ass [15:05] schestowitz https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/survey-says-rhel-leads-microsoft-sql-server-linux-deployments [15:05] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/survey-says-rhel-leads-microsoft-sql-server-linux-deployments [15:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Survey says RHEL leads for Microsoft SQL Server on Linux deployments [15:05] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.redhat.com | Survey says RHEL leads for Microsoft SQL Server on Linux deployments [15:05] schestowitz yesterday [15:05] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] yesterday [15:05] schestowitz but RMS.... BAD [15:05] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] but RMS.... BAD [15:07] *jessicara (~shirogits@unaffiliated/jessicara) has left #techrights [15:07] *BaronVladimirHar (baronhkmat@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-bwivvtdbwoqzycrv) has left #techrights ("User left") [15:07] MinceR matrix strikes again? :> [15:07] MinceR/fn matrix strikes again? :> [15:07] schestowitz [15:07] <-- BaronVladimirHar (baronhkmat@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-bwivvtdbwoqzycrv) has left this channel ("User left"). [15:07] schestowitz/fn [15:07] <-- BaronVladimirHar (baronhkmat@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-bwivvtdbwoqzycrv) has left this channel ("User left"). [15:07] *asusbox has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:08] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:08] schestowitz this is what matrix says ("use left") when BANNING people [15:08] schestowitz/fn this is what matrix says ("use left") when BANNING people [15:08] schestowitz but who knows... [15:08] schestowitz/fn but who knows... [15:08] MinceR indeed [15:08] MinceR/fn indeed [15:08] schestowitz Stalin: politician passed [15:08] schestowitz/fn Stalin: politician passed [15:09] techrights-bot #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151896 #Linux #TuxMachines [15:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [15:09] techrights-bot/fn #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151896 #Linux #TuxMachines [15:09] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [15:10] *asusbox has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [15:10] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [15:10] techrights-bot Quarantina is a beautiful name for a girl. Born during lockdowns. Quarantine for a boy. Like Constantine... [15:10] techrights-bot/fn Quarantina is a beautiful name for a girl. Born during lockdowns. Quarantine for a boy. Like Constantine... [15:12] BaronVladimirHa4 It looks like someone canceled me again on matrix.org. [15:12] BaronVladimirHa4/fn It looks like someone canceled me again on matrix.org. [15:13] BaronVladimirHa4 Probably Garrett. Such an obnoxious little man. [15:13] BaronVladimirHa4/fn Probably Garrett. Such an obnoxious little man. [15:13] MinceR time to stop using matrix [15:13] MinceR/fn time to stop using matrix [15:14] schestowitz who uses matrix? matrix uses YOU! [15:14] schestowitz/fn who uses matrix? matrix uses YOU! [15:14] schestowitz society is such a lovely thing, is it not? people getting along so well with each other [15:14] schestowitz/fn society is such a lovely thing, is it not? people getting along so well with each other [15:14] schestowitz if only we could "cancel" 2 billion people... the "bad" ones... [15:14] schestowitz/fn if only we could "cancel" 2 billion people... the "bad" ones... [15:15] MinceR "Good thing I have Kevlar. ...Wait, do I have Kevlar?" [15:15] MinceR/fn "Good thing I have Kevlar. ...Wait, do I have Kevlar?" [15:16] *guysoft42 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [15:17] techrights-bot When MATRIX says "user left" it actually means "we BANNED someone". #censorship perfumed, not informing others of the true degree of #censorship that's going on within those "Open" systems.... [15:17] techrights-bot/fn When MATRIX says "user left" it actually means "we BANNED someone". #censorship perfumed, not informing others of the true degree of #censorship that's going on within those "Open" systems.... [15:17] XRevan86 VTimes, another Russian independent media, is closing too. [15:17] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] VTimes, another Russian independent media, is closing too. [15:18] BaronVladimirHa4 mjg59_: Can really only manage to annoy me. [15:18] BaronVladimirHa4/fn mjg59_: Can really only manage to annoy me. [15:18] MinceR especially if you switch to a real IRC client [15:18] MinceR/fn especially if you switch to a real IRC client [15:18] MinceR his monopoly-loving friends can't reach you that way [15:18] MinceR/fn his monopoly-loving friends can't reach you that way [15:18] BaronVladimirHa4 It's really rather sad that this piece of shit has nothing better to do all day than to try to ban a chat account, when I'll just be right back anyway. [15:18] BaronVladimirHa4/fn It's really rather sad that this piece of shit has nothing better to do all day than to try to ban a chat account, when I'll just be right back anyway. [15:18] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 21.60 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 58.81 swarm size (avg): 237.34 [15:18] techrights-ipfs/fn IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 21.60 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 58.81 swarm size (avg): 237.34 [15:20] techrights-bot #Ubuntu Podcast from the UK LoCo: S14E13 Wants Photo Booth https://ubuntupodcast.org/2021/06/03/s14e13-wants-photo-booth/ #gnu #linux [15:20] techrights-bot/fn #Ubuntu Podcast from the UK LoCo: S14E13 Wants Photo Booth https://ubuntupodcast.org/2021/06/03/s14e13-wants-photo-booth/ #gnu #linux [15:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ubuntupodcast.org | S14E13 Wants Photo Booth | Ubuntu Podcast [15:20] TechrightsBot-tr/fn ubuntupodcast.org | S14E13 Wants Photo Booth | Ubuntu Podcast [15:20] BaronVladimirHa4 Maybe he can go live on the tranny farm in Colorado that NPR spoke of this morning, but he might break a nail if he attempts to fire a rifle. [15:20] BaronVladimirHa4/fn Maybe he can go live on the tranny farm in Colorado that NPR spoke of this morning, but he might break a nail if he attempts to fire a rifle. [15:20] *XRevan86 doesn't understand half of the things baronhk is saying [15:20] *tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] doesn't understand half of the things baronhk is saying [15:21] BaronVladimirHa4 It's becoming impossible to get actual news because it's been replaced by trans this and blacks that and it's easily 90% bullshit now simply to piss people off and distract them from real issues. [15:21] BaronVladimirHa4/fn It's becoming impossible to get actual news because it's been replaced by trans this and blacks that and it's easily 90% bullshit now simply to piss people off and distract them from real issues. [15:22] schestowitz can we keep on topic, please? [15:22] schestowitz/fn can we keep on topic, please? [15:23] schestowitz my connection on one machine keeps dropping... since midnight last ngiht [15:23] schestowitz/fn my connection on one machine keeps dropping... since midnight last ngiht [15:23] BaronVladimirHa4 I don't think that they realize that if they keep poking the bear that there's so much worse than Trump coming. [15:23] BaronVladimirHa4/fn I don't think that they realize that if they keep poking the bear that there's so much worse than Trump coming. [15:23] schestowitz never seen anything like it, cannot find an explanation [15:23] schestowitz/fn never seen anything like it, cannot find an explanation [15:23] BaronVladimirHa4 Also, is this thing actually federating properly now? [15:23] BaronVladimirHa4/fn Also, is this thing actually federating properly now? [15:23] MinceR we can see you writing, BaronVladimirHa4 [15:23] MinceR/fn we can see you writing, BaronVladimirHa4 [15:24] *schestowitz heading to bed... it's all OT now anyway [15:24] *schestowitz/fn heading to bed... it's all OT now anyway [15:25] techrights-bot New comment: "All #ibm products are old tech or started there. Ibm can't compete in new markets" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b6fzJWY#replies IBM is dying; it wants us to think #patents and #swpats #lobbying will save IBM. Instead it ALIENATES us. [15:25] techrights-bot/fn New comment: "All #ibm products are old tech or started there. Ibm can't compete in new markets" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b6fzJWY#replies IBM is dying; it wants us to think #patents and #swpats #lobbying will save IBM. Instead it ALIENATES us. [15:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | The grass is not greener anywhere? - post regarding IBM layoffs [15:25] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.thelayoff.com | The grass is not greener anywhere? - post regarding IBM layoffs [15:26] MinceR can they just hurry up and die already? [15:26] MinceR/fn can they just hurry up and die already? [15:34] *wineroots has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [15:36] *DaemonFC` (daemonfc@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/daemonfc) has joined #techrights [15:37] *DaemonFC` (daemonfc@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/daemonfc) has left #techrights [15:38] immibis BaronVladimirHa4: was that a direct threat of "annoy us and we'll shoot you"? [15:38] immibis/fn BaronVladimirHa4: was that a direct threat of "annoy us and we'll shoot you"? [15:40] *DaemonFC (daemonfc@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/daemonfc) has joined #techrights [15:41] DaemonFC Okay, at least now they can't block me from Freenode every time someone needs their hormones adjusted. [15:41] DaemonFC/fn Okay, at least now they can't block me from Freenode every time someone needs their hormones adjusted. [15:41] MinceR :> [15:41] MinceR/fn :> [15:41] MinceR i don't think it's a hormone problem [15:41] MinceR/fn i don't think it's a hormone problem [15:42] MinceR i think it's an authoritarianism problem [15:42] MinceR/fn i think it's an authoritarianism problem [15:42] MinceR mjg wants us all to be slaves to asatya nadella, and we don't want to be slaves [15:42] MinceR/fn mjg wants us all to be slaves to asatya nadella, and we don't want to be slaves [15:42] immibis whotf is asatya nadella [15:42] immibis/fn whotf is asatya nadella [15:42] MinceR current figurehead of the redmond mafia [15:42] MinceR/fn current figurehead of the redmond mafia [15:43] immibis oh microsoft [15:43] immibis/fn oh microsoft [15:43] immibis just don't use their software then [15:43] immibis/fn just don't use their software then [15:43] MinceR just don't buy UEFI PCs [15:43] MinceR/fn just don't buy UEFI PCs [15:43] MinceR just don't buy computers [15:43] MinceR/fn just don't buy computers [15:43] MinceR just don't use computers [15:43] MinceR/fn just don't use computers [15:43] MinceR just don't live [15:43] MinceR/fn just don't live [15:44] *BaronVladimirHa4 (baronhkner@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-zfaigtjoftmwbgux) has left #techrights ("User left") [15:49] *baronhk1[m] (baronhk1ma@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ejuobzsxjdyguxnt) has joined #techrights [15:50] superkuh I was pretty upset when I learned my relatively new (couple years old) mobo couldn't boot off nvme without being in UEFI mode. [15:50] tr-bridge [superkuh/tr] I was pretty upset when I learned my relatively new (couple years old) mobo couldn't boot off nvme without being in UEFI mode. [15:57] MinceR https://img.pr0gramm.com/2021/05/05/4fc0cfb4ac2f1252.png [15:57] MinceR/fn https://img.pr0gramm.com/2021/05/05/4fc0cfb4ac2f1252.png [15:59] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Jun 03 [16:11] psydroid there is no need to be upset [16:11] psydroid/fn there is no need to be upset [16:11] psydroid we just need to go with the flow [16:11] psydroid/fn we just need to go with the flow [16:12] psydroid towards hardware and software freedom [16:12] psydroid/fn towards hardware and software freedom [16:15] immibis ah yes we must stick with outdated technologies because freedom or something. [16:15] immibis/fn ah yes we must stick with outdated technologies because freedom or something. [16:16] CrystalMath immibis: or just because they're cool [16:16] CrystalMath/fn immibis: or just because they're cool [16:16] CrystalMath i love my cassette deck :) [16:16] CrystalMath/fn i love my cassette deck :) [16:16] immibis imagine being told to never buy a CD because it's anti-freedom [16:16] immibis/fn imagine being told to never buy a CD because it's anti-freedom [16:16] CrystalMath well there are CDs that contain viruses from Sony BMG [16:16] CrystalMath/fn well there are CDs that contain viruses from Sony BMG [16:17] baronhk1[m] The reason the CD held on for so long is because newer formats had DRM. [16:17] baronhk1[m]/fn The reason the CD held on for so long is because newer formats had DRM. [16:17] immibis only if you run the virus. that's more of a windows thing [16:17] immibis/fn only if you run the virus. that's more of a windows thing [16:17] baronhk1[m] People found out they couldn't rip the newer formats and didn't buy them. [16:17] baronhk1[m]/fn People found out they couldn't rip the newer formats and didn't buy them. [16:17] MinceR that's not the way the flow is going [16:17] MinceR/fn that's not the way the flow is going [16:17] immibis don't buy shit with DRM then. but we are not talking about DRM here. just plain old bugs [16:17] immibis/fn don't buy shit with DRM then. but we are not talking about DRM here. just plain old bugs [16:17] CrystalMath immibis: then i have no problem with CDs [16:17] CrystalMath/fn immibis: then i have no problem with CDs [16:18] baronhk1[m] uEFI doesn't seem to improve the reliability of the PC. [16:18] baronhk1[m]/fn uEFI doesn't seem to improve the reliability of the PC. [16:18] MinceR "a few years ago i had no idea what an init system was, but now you've all got to replace yours with systemd because everything else is outdated!" [16:18] MinceR/fn "a few years ago i had no idea what an init system was, but now you've all got to replace yours with systemd because everything else is outdated!" [16:18] baronhk1[m] In fact, I don't think I recall any BIOS systems with this many problems, even if they did have bugs. [16:18] baronhk1[m]/fn In fact, I don't think I recall any BIOS systems with this many problems, even if they did have bugs. [16:18] MinceR Restricted Boot is not a "plain old bug", it's microshit's effort to become the gatekeeper of the PC OS market [16:18] MinceR/fn Restricted Boot is not a "plain old bug", it's microshit's effort to become the gatekeeper of the PC OS market [16:18] baronhk1[m] The bugs were usually in extensions to BIOS that Microsoft added and didn't write very good specs for. [16:18] baronhk1[m]/fn The bugs were usually in extensions to BIOS that Microsoft added and didn't write very good specs for. [16:19] psydroid all my systems with UEFI are laptops [16:19] psydroid/fn all my systems with UEFI are laptops [16:19] psydroid I hope by the time they start dying one by one non-x86 alternatives without UEFI will be ubiquitous [16:19] psydroid/fn I hope by the time they start dying one by one non-x86 alternatives without UEFI will be ubiquitous [16:20] immibis baronhk1[m]: If you've ever tried writing a bootloader or OS kernel you will know the BIOS interface is crammed full of legacy garbage. [16:20] immibis/fn baronhk1[m]: If you've ever tried writing a bootloader or OS kernel you will know the BIOS interface is crammed full of legacy garbage. [16:20] immibis your bootloader is one sector from a disk that gets run in 16-bit real mode. what is this, 1980? [16:20] immibis/fn your bootloader is one sector from a disk that gets run in 16-bit real mode. what is this, 1980? [16:21] baronhk1[m] While uEFI is crammed with stuff that can kill the entire computer if the OS uses it as documented. [16:21] baronhk1[m]/fn While uEFI is crammed with stuff that can kill the entire computer if the OS uses it as documented. [16:21] immibis can't the OS already kill the entire computer by using stuff as documented? [16:21] immibis/fn can't the OS already kill the entire computer by using stuff as documented? [16:21] immibis like, you start writing to the BIOS flash chip, then you write a stream of 0 bytes. Computer killed [16:21] immibis/fn like, you start writing to the BIOS flash chip, then you write a stream of 0 bytes. Computer killed [16:21] MinceR yay, UEFI is garbage that is not "legacy"! [16:21] MinceR/fn yay, UEFI is garbage that is not "legacy"! [16:21] CrystalMath immibis: i've written TONS of BIOS bootloaders, and i don't consider any of that stuff "legacy garbage" [16:21] CrystalMath/fn immibis: i've written TONS of BIOS bootloaders, and i don't consider any of that stuff "legacy garbage" [16:21] MinceR what does that mean? [16:21] MinceR/fn what does that mean? [16:22] baronhk1[m] Many boards had a dual BIOS configuration. [16:22] baronhk1[m]/fn Many boards had a dual BIOS configuration. [16:22] MinceR it means, that people like mjg like it [16:22] MinceR/fn it means, that people like mjg like it [16:22] immibis MinceR: six. teen. bit. real. mode. [16:22] immibis/fn MinceR: six. teen. bit. real. mode. [16:22] MinceR who the fuck cares what they like? [16:22] MinceR/fn who the fuck cares what they like? [16:22] MinceR immibis: so? [16:22] MinceR/fn immibis: so? [16:22] immibis MinceR: six. teen. bit. real. mode. [16:22] immibis/fn MinceR: six. teen. bit. real. mode. [16:22] baronhk1[m] If the system couldn't boot, it switched over to the backup and the backup reflashed the primary, or failing that, just became read-only. [16:22] baronhk1[m]/fn If the system couldn't boot, it switched over to the backup and the backup reflashed the primary, or failing that, just became read-only. [16:22] CrystalMath immibis: i've written lots of code in 16-bit real mode [16:22] CrystalMath/fn immibis: i've written lots of code in 16-bit real mode [16:22] MinceR immibis: it. works. [16:22] immibis the whole real mode is legacy garbage [16:22] MinceR/fn immibis: it. works. [16:22] baronhk1[m] But you could boot the computer. [16:22] immibis/fn the whole real mode is legacy garbage [16:22] baronhk1[m]/fn But you could boot the computer. [16:22] MinceR immibis: uefi. does. not. [16:22] MinceR/fn immibis: uefi. does. not. [16:22] CrystalMath immibis: the CPU starts in that mode, ALWAYS [16:22] CrystalMath/fn immibis: the CPU starts in that mode, ALWAYS [16:22] immibis CrystalMath: yes because it's legacy garbage [16:22] immibis/fn CrystalMath: yes because it's legacy garbage [16:22] CrystalMath even your Ryzen [16:22] CrystalMath/fn even your Ryzen [16:22] CrystalMath and every core you IPI [16:22] CrystalMath/fn and every core you IPI [16:22] immibis AMD or Intel would love to rip out that useless circuitry from their CPUs, but they can't because of BIOS [16:22] CrystalMath starts in that mode [16:22] immibis/fn AMD or Intel would love to rip out that useless circuitry from their CPUs, but they can't because of BIOS [16:22] CrystalMath/fn starts in that mode [16:23] MinceR then x86 is "legacy", not the lack of control by microshit [16:23] MinceR/fn then x86 is "legacy", not the lack of control by microshit [16:23] CrystalMath immibis: FALSE [16:23] CrystalMath/fn immibis: FALSE [16:23] CrystalMath immibis: the biggest part of that circuitry is still usable in 64-bit long mode [16:23] CrystalMath/fn immibis: the biggest part of that circuitry is still usable in 64-bit long mode [16:23] baronhk1[m] uEFI validates that the OEM signs off on the new firmware, ensuring that it's very difficult to replace it with Coreboot or unlock features the OEM hid from you and reflash it. [16:23] CrystalMath because the big part is 16-bit addressing [16:23] baronhk1[m]/fn uEFI validates that the OEM signs off on the new firmware, ensuring that it's very difficult to replace it with Coreboot or unlock features the OEM hid from you and reflash it. [16:23] CrystalMath/fn because the big part is 16-bit addressing [16:23] immibis MinceR: yes, x86 is full of legacy garbage, so let's rip out the garbage when possible [16:23] immibis/fn MinceR: yes, x86 is full of legacy garbage, so let's rip out the garbage when possible [16:23] MinceR immibis: they don't ship those CPUs with non-uefi bios [16:23] MinceR/fn immibis: they don't ship those CPUs with non-uefi bios [16:23] MinceR immibis: intel even announced they're killing CSM in 2020 [16:23] MinceR/fn immibis: intel even announced they're killing CSM in 2020 [16:23] immibis MinceR: the UEFI has a bios compatibility mode [16:23] immibis/fn MinceR: the UEFI has a bios compatibility mode [16:23] CrystalMath immibis: you can still do 16-bit addressing on 64-bit long mode using the ADSIZE prefix [16:23] CrystalMath/fn immibis: you can still do 16-bit addressing on 64-bit long mode using the ADSIZE prefix [16:23] MinceR/fn yeah, but it's still bloated [16:23] MinceR yeah, but it's still bloated [16:23] MinceR it would be better to use boot firmware that is smaller than Linux [16:23] MinceR/fn it would be better to use boot firmware that is smaller than Linux [16:23] immibis maybe it would be less bloated without being full of legacy garbage [16:23] immibis/fn maybe it would be less bloated without being full of legacy garbage [16:24] MinceR not significantly [16:24] MinceR/fn not significantly [16:24] MinceR it would be a lot less bloated without microshit's legacy bullshit and vendor lock-in [16:24] MinceR/fn it would be a lot less bloated without microshit's legacy bullshit and vendor lock-in [16:24] CrystalMath immibis: amd64 requires by spec most of that 16-bit stuff [16:24] CrystalMath/fn immibis: amd64 requires by spec most of that 16-bit stuff [16:24] CrystalMath so removing it is futile [16:24] CrystalMath/fn so removing it is futile [16:24] immibis CrystalMath: your point? You can't get back from 64-bit mode to 16-bit mode AFAIK. So they can remove it if people only run 64-bit OSes and 32/64-bit bootloaders [16:24] immibis/fn CrystalMath: your point? You can't get back from 64-bit mode to 16-bit mode AFAIK. So they can remove it if people only run 64-bit OSes and 32/64-bit bootloaders [16:24] CrystalMath basically CPUs emulate it in microcode today [16:24] CrystalMath/fn basically CPUs emulate it in microcode today [16:24] CrystalMath immibis: FALSE, you can [16:24] CrystalMath/fn immibis: FALSE, you can [16:25] MinceR they'll just violate the spec to microsoft's benefit [16:25] MinceR/fn they'll just violate the spec to microsoft's benefit [16:25] CrystalMath there is a documented procedure [16:25] CrystalMath/fn there is a documented procedure [16:25] MinceR business as usual [16:25] immibis how do you get from 64-bit to 16-bit mode? I was informed you couldn't [16:25] MinceR/fn business as usual [16:25] immibis/fn how do you get from 64-bit to 16-bit mode? I was informed you couldn't [16:25] *sepsinn (~sepsinn@2601:140:887f:bad0::3aee) has joined #techrights [16:25] *phobos_anomaly (~phobos@unaffiliated/phobos-anomaly/x-6744724) has joined #techrights [16:25] CrystalMath immibis: well you were informed wrong, the procedure is to first go to 16-bit compatibility mode, jump to an identity-paged address, disable paging, disable protected mode, and voila [16:25] CrystalMath/fn immibis: well you were informed wrong, the procedure is to first go to 16-bit compatibility mode, jump to an identity-paged address, disable paging, disable protected mode, and voila [16:25] CrystalMath it's in the intel manual [16:25] CrystalMath/fn it's in the intel manual [16:26] CrystalMath 16-bit "compatibility" mode as in long mode with a 16-bit segment selector [16:26] CrystalMath/fn 16-bit "compatibility" mode as in long mode with a 16-bit segment selector [16:26] CrystalMath this is like 16-bit protected mode [16:26] CrystalMath/fn this is like 16-bit protected mode [16:26] immibis ah, more legacy garbage they wish they could rip out. Emulators are fast now, just run in dosbox [16:26] immibis/fn ah, more legacy garbage they wish they could rip out. Emulators are fast now, just run in dosbox [16:26] CrystalMath immibis: this isn't suitable for emulation, as you have to tear down everything to go back to 16-bit real mode [16:26] CrystalMath/fn immibis: this isn't suitable for emulation, as you have to tear down everything to go back to 16-bit real mode [16:26] immibis apple didn't force an x86 compatibility mode into their arm chips [16:26] immibis/fn apple didn't force an x86 compatibility mode into their arm chips [16:27] CrystalMath the OS cannot have control anymore over the 16-bit code [16:27] CrystalMath/fn the OS cannot have control anymore over the 16-bit code [16:27] immibis CrystalMath: yes. exactly. if you want to run 16-bit code, use emulation instead. [16:27] immibis/fn CrystalMath: yes. exactly. if you want to run 16-bit code, use emulation instead. [16:27] immibis and if you are using emulation instead, the CPU oesn't need this mode [16:27] immibis/fn and if you are using emulation instead, the CPU oesn't need this mode [16:27] MinceR crApple didn't even implement the ARM spec correctly in the M1 [16:27] MinceR/fn crApple didn't even implement the ARM spec correctly in the M1 [16:27] CrystalMath immibis: but still, it is possible, and it's by spec [16:27] CrystalMath/fn immibis: but still, it is possible, and it's by spec [16:27] MinceR but hey, they can still put a logo on the box so it's fully functional [16:27] MinceR/fn but hey, they can still put a logo on the box so it's fully functional [16:27] CrystalMath compatibility mode is mostly used for running 32-bit software [16:27] CrystalMath/fn compatibility mode is mostly used for running 32-bit software [16:27] immibis well obviously it won't be in the next spec. Are you aware things change with time? [16:27] immibis/fn well obviously it won't be in the next spec. Are you aware things change with time? [16:27] CrystalMath immibis: it's not gonna help, because they must still keep the addressing [16:27] CrystalMath/fn immibis: it's not gonna help, because they must still keep the addressing [16:27] MinceR immibis: are you aware things can change for the worse? [16:27] MinceR/fn immibis: are you aware things can change for the worse? [16:28] CrystalMath immibis: even in 64-bit long mode, the biggest part of that microcode for compatibility is used [16:28] CrystalMath/fn immibis: even in 64-bit long mode, the biggest part of that microcode for compatibility is used [16:28] CrystalMath so it's no use [16:28] CrystalMath/fn so it's no use [16:28] CrystalMath you do realize that 32-bit instructions are used as is in 64-bit long mode? [16:28] CrystalMath/fn you do realize that 32-bit instructions are used as is in 64-bit long mode? [16:28] CrystalMath they're even DEFAULT [16:28] CrystalMath/fn they're even DEFAULT [16:28] immibis we're talking about 16-bit mode, you moron [16:28] immibis/fn we're talking about 16-bit mode, you moron [16:29] immibis literally nobody suggested removing 32-bit mode yet [16:29] immibis/fn literally nobody suggested removing 32-bit mode yet [16:29] CrystalMath that's just a single bit [16:29] CrystalMath/fn that's just a single bit [16:29] CrystalMath yeah but you have to remove both [16:29] CrystalMath/fn yeah but you have to remove both [16:29] CrystalMath or none [16:29] CrystalMath/fn or none [16:29] immibis Because...? [16:29] immibis/fn Because...? [16:29] CrystalMath because if you keep compatibility mode [16:29] CrystalMath/fn because if you keep compatibility mode [16:29] CrystalMath you have ADSIZE and OPSIZE that must work for programs [16:29] CrystalMath/fn you have ADSIZE and OPSIZE that must work for programs [16:29] CrystalMath and then you have to keep 16-bit addressing [16:29] CrystalMath/fn and then you have to keep 16-bit addressing [16:29] immibis the CPU can't tell the difference between 16-bit mode and 32-bit mode? [16:29] immibis/fn the CPU can't tell the difference between 16-bit mode and 32-bit mode? [16:29] CrystalMath [bx + si] and whatnot [16:29] CrystalMath/fn [bx + si] and whatnot [16:29] CrystalMath the difference is super thin [16:29] CrystalMath/fn the difference is super thin [16:29] CrystalMath because you can use both in both [16:29] CrystalMath/fn because you can use both in both [16:30] CrystalMath and mix [16:30] CrystalMath/fn and mix [16:30] CrystalMath with ADSIZE/OPSIZE [16:30] CrystalMath/fn with ADSIZE/OPSIZE [16:30] CrystalMath and programs do that [16:30] CrystalMath/fn and programs do that [16:30] CrystalMath note that this is not real mode but 16-bit protected mode [16:30] CrystalMath/fn note that this is not real mode but 16-bit protected mode [16:30] immibis Aren't instructions encoded differently in 16-bit mode? I know with 32-bit they added a bunch more addressing modes, what occupies those slots in the 16-bit encoding? [16:30] immibis/fn Aren't instructions encoded differently in 16-bit mode? I know with 32-bit they added a bunch more addressing modes, what occupies those slots in the 16-bit encoding? [16:30] CrystalMath well if you do a 16-bit addressing, it's totally different, however you can it in any mode [16:30] CrystalMath/fn well if you do a 16-bit addressing, it's totally different, however you can it in any mode [16:31] CrystalMath like, 0 is [bx + si], 1 is [bx + di], [16:31] CrystalMath/fn like, 0 is [bx + si], 1 is [bx + di], [16:31] CrystalMath while in 32-bit, 0 is [eax], 1 is [ecx] [16:31] CrystalMath/fn while in 32-bit, 0 is [eax], 1 is [ecx] [16:31] CrystalMath etc.. [16:31] CrystalMath/fn etc.. [16:31] immibis I thought the prefixes changed the sizes of registers you're using, but not the actual instruction encoding [16:31] immibis/fn I thought the prefixes changed the sizes of registers you're using, but not the actual instruction encoding [16:31] CrystalMath but you can do [bx + si] in 32-bit [16:31] CrystalMath/fn but you can do [bx + si] in 32-bit [16:31] CrystalMath it's not that different... 16-bit is just a default size [16:31] CrystalMath/fn it's not that different... 16-bit is just a default size [16:31] immibis is [bx+si] different f rom [ebx+esi] apart from the prefix? [16:31] immibis/fn is [bx+si] different f rom [ebx+esi] apart from the prefix? [16:31] CrystalMath very [16:31] CrystalMath/fn very [16:32] CrystalMath [bx + si] is the same as [eax] without the default-toggle prefix (ADSIZE) [16:32] CrystalMath/fn [bx + si] is the same as [eax] without the default-toggle prefix (ADSIZE) [16:32] immibis ok [16:32] immibis/fn ok [16:32] CrystalMath [ebx + esi] uses the SIB and requires 32-bit [16:32] CrystalMath/fn [ebx + esi] uses the SIB and requires 32-bit [16:32] immibis then how about 16-bit interrupt handling? [16:32] immibis/fn then how about 16-bit interrupt handling? [16:32] CrystalMath it's the same [16:32] CrystalMath/fn it's the same [16:32] CrystalMath in protected mode [16:32] CrystalMath/fn in protected mode [16:32] CrystalMath in real mode it's different [16:32] CrystalMath/fn in real mode it's different [16:32] immibis real mode interrupt handling, then [16:32] immibis/fn real mode interrupt handling, then [16:32] immibis can real mode be eradicated? [16:32] immibis/fn can real mode be eradicated? [16:32] CrystalMath you don't gain anything because real mode is just 0.0001% of the microcode [16:32] CrystalMath/fn you don't gain anything because real mode is just 0.0001% of the microcode [16:33] CrystalMath the big part is 16-bit addressing [16:33] CrystalMath/fn the big part is 16-bit addressing [16:33] CrystalMath which is a monstrosity [16:33] CrystalMath/fn which is a monstrosity [16:33] immibis i'm sure it imposes annoying constraints on the overall design [16:33] immibis/fn i'm sure it imposes annoying constraints on the overall design [16:33] CrystalMath it doesn't really, it's just a bypass for checks [16:33] CrystalMath/fn it doesn't really, it's just a bypass for checks [16:33] immibis they eradicated the A20 gate IIRC [16:33] immibis/fn they eradicated the A20 gate IIRC [16:33] CrystalMath yeah, that was pointless [16:33] CrystalMath/fn yeah, that was pointless [16:33] MinceR they had to, iirc [16:33] MinceR/fn they had to, iirc [16:34] CrystalMath A20 was a kludge [16:34] CrystalMath/fn A20 was a kludge [16:34] CrystalMath and it was outside the CPU [16:34] MinceR for superscalar or something like that [16:34] CrystalMath/fn and it was outside the CPU [16:34] MinceR/fn for superscalar or something like that [16:34] immibis A20 was inside the CPU since the CPU had a cache in it [16:34] immibis/fn A20 was inside the CPU since the CPU had a cache in it [16:34] CrystalMath originally it was outside [16:34] CrystalMath/fn originally it was outside [16:34] CrystalMath it's a horrible kludge :P [16:34] CrystalMath/fn it's a horrible kludge :P [16:34] XRevan86 https://youtu.be/Cri7jqwRRBM [16:34] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] https://youtu.be/Cri7jqwRRBM [16:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- - (. 03.06.2021) - YouTube [16:35] TechrightsBot-tr/fn - (. 03.06.2021) - YouTube [16:35] CrystalMath let's disable address 20 so that we can jump to an address so high it will wrap around and manage to call the CP/M supervisor [16:35] CrystalMath/fn let's disable address 20 so that we can jump to an address so high it will wrap around and manage to call the CP/M supervisor [16:35] CrystalMath brilliant :P [16:35] CrystalMath/fn brilliant :P [16:35] MinceR :> [16:35] MinceR/fn :> [16:36] MinceR i thought the point was to be able to access more RAM [16:36] MinceR/fn i thought the point was to be able to access more RAM [16:37] CrystalMath the big problem with that BIOS is that it has to run in v86 mode, which really sucks [16:37] CrystalMath/fn the big problem with that BIOS is that it has to run in v86 mode, which really sucks [16:37] CrystalMath v86 mode is not available from 64-bit long mode [16:37] CrystalMath/fn v86 mode is not available from 64-bit long mode [16:37] CrystalMath and that's what immibis probably heard but misunderstood [16:37] CrystalMath/fn and that's what immibis probably heard but misunderstood [16:37] CrystalMath v86 is basically a builtin emulator for the 8086 that the 386 had [16:37] CrystalMath/fn v86 is basically a builtin emulator for the 8086 that the 386 had [16:37] CrystalMath so that you can do both at the same time [16:37] CrystalMath/fn so that you can do both at the same time [16:38] CrystalMath this is not really possible on intel's implementation of amd64 [16:38] CrystalMath/fn this is not really possible on intel's implementation of amd64 [16:38] CrystalMath but it is if you fully go 32-bit protected and disable long mode [16:38] CrystalMath/fn but it is if you fully go 32-bit protected and disable long mode [16:38] CrystalMath and the BIOS is expected to run in it, which means... it can't have ANY 32-bit code [16:38] CrystalMath/fn and the BIOS is expected to run in it, which means... it can't have ANY 32-bit code [16:38] CrystalMath and that's a pain [16:38] CrystalMath/fn and that's a pain [16:39] CrystalMath UEFI solves that, i'll admit that much :) [16:39] CrystalMath/fn UEFI solves that, i'll admit that much :) [16:39] CrystalMath although even the BIOS near the end had calls that give you a far pointer to call in 32-bit protected mode [16:39] CrystalMath/fn although even the BIOS near the end had calls that give you a far pointer to call in 32-bit protected mode [16:39] CrystalMath but they couldn't change any of the existing calls that had to be able to run in v86 for compatibility [16:39] CrystalMath/fn but they couldn't change any of the existing calls that had to be able to run in v86 for compatibility [16:39] CrystalMath mostly windows [16:39] CrystalMath/fn mostly windows [16:39] immibis so can v86 mode be eradicated then? Just use an emulator [16:39] immibis/fn so can v86 mode be eradicated then? Just use an emulator [16:40] immibis if we say you must have a 64-bit OS [16:40] immibis/fn if we say you must have a 64-bit OS [16:40] CrystalMath immibis: if you disable 32-bit compatibility mode you gain that, but you still have to keep 16-bit addressing, which makes the benefit minimal [16:40] CrystalMath/fn immibis: if you disable 32-bit compatibility mode you gain that, but you still have to keep 16-bit addressing, which makes the benefit minimal [16:41] CrystalMath i mean what you gain is more code that blocks you from entering that mode [16:41] CrystalMath/fn i mean what you gain is more code that blocks you from entering that mode [16:41] XRevan86 https://meduza.io/en/news/2021/06/03/independent-outlet-vtimes-shuts-down-following-foreign-agent-designation [16:41] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] https://meduza.io/en/news/2021/06/03/independent-outlet-vtimes-shuts-down-following-foreign-agent-designation [16:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE [16:41] TechrightsBot-tr/fn meduza.io | NO TITLE [16:41] CrystalMath that doesn't help with anything [16:41] CrystalMath/fn that doesn't help with anything [16:41] immibis (you already have all that code for all the other unused mode bits) [16:41] immibis/fn (you already have all that code for all the other unused mode bits) [16:41] CrystalMath 16-bit addressing isn't unused even in 64-bit long mode [16:41] CrystalMath/fn 16-bit addressing isn't unused even in 64-bit long mode [16:42] CrystalMath because as you might now, the *default* address size is 32-bit and ADSIZE still exists [16:42] CrystalMath/fn because as you might now, the *default* address size is 32-bit and ADSIZE still exists [16:42] CrystalMath you have to use REX to get a 64-bit address [16:42] CrystalMath/fn you have to use REX to get a 64-bit address [16:42] immibis it doesn't use segment+prefix, I hope? [16:42] immibis/fn it doesn't use segment+prefix, I hope? [16:42] immibis er segment+offset [16:42] immibis/fn er segment+offset [16:42] CrystalMath long mode requires segments but their base is required to be 0 in 64-bit mode [16:42] CrystalMath/fn long mode requires segments but their base is required to be 0 in 64-bit mode [16:42] CrystalMath it can be non-zero in compatibility modes [16:42] CrystalMath/fn it can be non-zero in compatibility modes [16:43] CrystalMath segments are still used for permissions [16:43] CrystalMath/fn segments are still used for permissions [16:43] CrystalMath and all those base / limit bits can be in the future used for some extra settings [16:43] CrystalMath/fn and all those base / limit bits can be in the future used for some extra settings [16:44] CrystalMath immibis: let me explain: for 32-bit compatibility at all you need segment.base + offset, and then in real mode all that's different is loading a segment, which does segment.base = selector << 4 [16:44] CrystalMath/fn immibis: let me explain: for 32-bit compatibility at all you need segment.base + offset, and then in real mode all that's different is loading a segment, which does segment.base = selector << 4 [16:44] MinceR UEFI also solves you not using microshit's shitty formats [16:44] MinceR/fn UEFI also solves you not using microshit's shitty formats [16:45] MinceR FAT and PE too crap to be used for real work? no problem, we'll just hardwire them into the boot firmware so you'll have to use them anyway! [16:45] MinceR/fn FAT and PE too crap to be used for real work? no problem, we'll just hardwire them into the boot firmware so you'll have to use them anyway! [16:45] MinceR "just don't use their software then" [16:45] MinceR/fn "just don't use their software then" [16:45] MinceR what a load of bullshit [16:45] MinceR/fn what a load of bullshit [16:45] CrystalMath immibis: loading a segment for protected mode is HUGE code, for example, it's complicated as hell [16:45] CrystalMath/fn immibis: loading a segment for protected mode is HUGE code, for example, it's complicated as hell [16:46] CrystalMath the real mode code is that small diversion that JUST does segment.base = selector << 4 [16:46] CrystalMath/fn the real mode code is that small diversion that JUST does segment.base = selector << 4 [16:46] MinceR and then mjg tries to force Linux to also support a PE header on their keys to appease microshit [16:46] MinceR/fn and then mjg tries to force Linux to also support a PE header on their keys to appease microshit [16:46] CrystalMath that's all [16:46] CrystalMath/fn that's all [16:48] CrystalMath well on one hand at least he didn't try to pretend secure boot isn't evil [16:48] CrystalMath/fn well on one hand at least he didn't try to pretend secure boot isn't evil [16:48] CrystalMath/fn like Linus did, "oh no problem we'll just allow that, it's normal for our system" [16:48] CrystalMath like Linus did, "oh no problem we'll just allow that, it's normal for our system" [16:48] CrystalMath the thing is, microsoft isn't normal [16:48] CrystalMath/fn the thing is, microsoft isn't normal [16:48] CrystalMath they're absolutely evil [16:48] CrystalMath/fn they're absolutely evil [16:49] MinceR indeed [16:49] MinceR/fn indeed [16:51] immibis CrystalMath: since no OS really uses segmentation anyway (except in the limited way long mode allows because that's what OSes were using), they could rip it out of protected mode too, and replace it with the long mode system but 32-bit [16:51] immibis/fn CrystalMath: since no OS really uses segmentation anyway (except in the limited way long mode allows because that's what OSes were using), they could rip it out of protected mode too, and replace it with the long mode system but 32-bit ● Jun 03 [17:02] CrystalMath immibis: 32-bit compatibility mode, you mean? [17:02] CrystalMath/fn immibis: 32-bit compatibility mode, you mean? [17:02] CrystalMath that is basically 99.999% of protected mode [17:02] CrystalMath/fn that is basically 99.999% of protected mode [17:02] CrystalMath you gain nothing [17:02] CrystalMath/fn you gain nothing [17:02] CrystalMath also, it can STILL be 16-bit :P [17:02] CrystalMath/fn also, it can STILL be 16-bit :P [17:02] MinceR i'm pretty sure there are OSes that still support 32bit protected mode [17:02] MinceR/fn i'm pretty sure there are OSes that still support 32bit protected mode [17:02] CrystalMath because you keep all of 16-bit [17:02] CrystalMath/fn because you keep all of 16-bit [17:02] MinceR (i.e. not long mode) [17:02] MinceR/fn (i.e. not long mode) [17:03] CrystalMath for 32-bit compatibility you need a long mode kernel [17:03] CrystalMath/fn for 32-bit compatibility you need a long mode kernel [17:03] CrystalMath privileged instructions become 64-bit [17:03] CrystalMath/fn privileged instructions become 64-bit [17:03] CrystalMath immibis: also 32-bit windows uses segmentation a lot [17:03] CrystalMath/fn immibis: also 32-bit windows uses segmentation a lot [17:03] CrystalMath there's even a kludge in long mode made to allow precisely that :P [17:03] CrystalMath/fn there's even a kludge in long mode made to allow precisely that :P [17:03] CrystalMath in a special MSR [17:03] CrystalMath/fn in a special MSR [17:04] CrystalMath MSR_FS_BASE [17:04] CrystalMath/fn MSR_FS_BASE [17:04] CrystalMath this is basically on-die windows support :P [17:04] CrystalMath/fn this is basically on-die windows support :P [17:05] CrystalMath sorry, to be more precise, i mean for "32-bit compatibility mode you need a long mode kernel" [17:05] CrystalMath/fn sorry, to be more precise, i mean for "32-bit compatibility mode you need a long mode kernel" [17:06] MinceR my X60s couldn't run in long mode if it wanted [17:06] MinceR/fn my X60s couldn't run in long mode if it wanted [17:06] MinceR yet it runs OpenBSD fine [17:06] MinceR/fn yet it runs OpenBSD fine [17:06] CrystalMath heh [17:06] CrystalMath/fn heh [17:06] CrystalMath yeah, i mean there's that too [17:06] CrystalMath/fn yeah, i mean there's that too [17:06] CrystalMath the fact is, though, that amd64 was not built to get rid of legacy baggage - it was built to KEEP IT ALL [17:06] CrystalMath/fn the fact is, though, that amd64 was not built to get rid of legacy baggage - it was built to KEEP IT ALL [17:06] CrystalMath it was designed that way [17:06] CrystalMath/fn it was designed that way [17:06] CrystalMath it's by-design [17:06] CrystalMath/fn it's by-design [17:07] CrystalMath a simple extension to x86 [17:07] CrystalMath/fn a simple extension to x86 [17:07] CrystalMath not a replacement [17:07] CrystalMath/fn not a replacement [17:07] CrystalMath ia64 was a replacement, and it didn't survive [17:07] CrystalMath/fn ia64 was a replacement, and it didn't survive [17:07] immibis CrystalMath: yes that's the system used in long mode, FS and IIRC GS are just additional registers you can add onto an address [17:07] immibis/fn CrystalMath: yes that's the system used in long mode, FS and IIRC GS are just additional registers you can add onto an address [17:07] MinceR intel pretty much sabotaged IA64 [17:07] MinceR/fn intel pretty much sabotaged IA64 [17:07] immibis there is no longer any need to look up a segment descriptor and stuff [17:07] immibis/fn there is no longer any need to look up a segment descriptor and stuff [17:07] CrystalMath immibis: there is for 32-bit compatibility mode [17:07] CrystalMath/fn immibis: there is for 32-bit compatibility mode [17:07] immibis they are just offsets. 64-bit OSes can use that in 32-bit mode too [17:07] immibis/fn they are just offsets. 64-bit OSes can use that in 32-bit mode too [17:07] MinceR i guess the corporation bill gates named after his prick didn't want to port everything to IA64 [17:07] MinceR/fn i guess the corporation bill gates named after his prick didn't want to port everything to IA64 [17:08] immibis IF, the actual segmentation system in 32-bit mode, was replaced with that [17:08] immibis/fn IF, the actual segmentation system in 32-bit mode, was replaced with that [17:08] CrystalMath immibis: which is required to run 32-bit programs [17:08] CrystalMath/fn immibis: which is required to run 32-bit programs [17:08] immibis CrystalMath: yes i'm saying they could rip out segmentation and put in FS and GS as offset registers [17:08] immibis/fn CrystalMath: yes i'm saying they could rip out segmentation and put in FS and GS as offset registers [17:08] immibis and only the OS would have to know the difference [17:08] immibis/fn and only the OS would have to know the difference [17:08] CrystalMath immibis: then 32-bit won't work [17:08] CrystalMath/fn immibis: then 32-bit won't work [17:08] immibis why? what other properties do segments have in 32-bit windows? [17:08] immibis/fn why? what other properties do segments have in 32-bit windows? [17:09] CrystalMath there's also LDTs that processes can create with system calls [17:09] CrystalMath/fn there's also LDTs that processes can create with system calls [17:09] CrystalMath and do [17:09] CrystalMath/fn and do [17:09] CrystalMath and i mean, there's also segment limits [17:09] CrystalMath/fn and i mean, there's also segment limits [17:09] CrystalMath segment permissions still work in long mode [17:09] CrystalMath/fn segment permissions still work in long mode [17:09] CrystalMath segment-relative addressing still works in long mode [17:09] CrystalMath/fn segment-relative addressing still works in long mode [17:09] CrystalMath but the base is 0 [17:09] CrystalMath/fn but the base is 0 [17:09] CrystalMath and the limit is max [17:09] CrystalMath/fn and the limit is max [17:09] CrystalMath and yet still you can use segments [17:09] CrystalMath/fn and yet still you can use segments [17:10] CrystalMath/fn immibis: also earlier you said nobody was talking about plugging out 32-bit compatibility [17:10] CrystalMath immibis: also earlier you said nobody was talking about plugging out 32-bit compatibility [17:11] *rianne (~rianne@haii6za73zabc.irc) has joined #techrights [17:11] *asusbox (~rianne@haii6za73zabc.irc) has joined #techrights [17:11] CrystalMath but your suggestion would kill long mode too [17:11] CrystalMath/fn but your suggestion would kill long mode too [17:11] *rianne (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [17:11] CrystalMath the assumptions we've had so far in it [17:11] CrystalMath/fn the assumptions we've had so far in it [17:11] *asusbox (~rianne@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:f4bf:2fd3:cddc:7fb5) has joined #techrights [17:11] CrystalMath because compatibility mode is a subset of long mode [17:11] CrystalMath/fn because compatibility mode is a subset of long mode [17:12] CrystalMath immibis: even 64-bit paging is just an added piece on top of PAE [17:12] CrystalMath/fn immibis: even 64-bit paging is just an added piece on top of PAE [17:13] CrystalMath it's all built on top, and you want to rip out the foundation [17:13] CrystalMath/fn it's all built on top, and you want to rip out the foundation [17:13] CrystalMath really, i would sooner expect ARM desktops than that [17:13] CrystalMath/fn really, i would sooner expect ARM desktops than that [17:14] techrights-bot #ibm #layoffs #exodus #pandemic "Is hundredths of people measured in centipeoples? What is it like to be (for example) 29% layed off? Tell me more!" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/16nprIQd#replies [17:14] techrights-bot/fn #ibm #layoffs #exodus #pandemic "Is hundredths of people measured in centipeoples? What is it like to be (for example) 29% layed off? Tell me more!" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/16nprIQd#replies [17:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Over - post regarding IBM layoffs [17:14] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.thelayoff.com | Over - post regarding IBM layoffs [17:15] CrystalMath immibis: you do know that for some government purposes software s literally required by regulations to be 5+ years old? [17:15] CrystalMath/fn immibis: you do know that for some government purposes software s literally required by regulations to be 5+ years old? [17:15] techrights-bot New: " Just the cloud portion of Amazon (AWS) businesses is poised to overtake ALL of IBM in both income and profits in a few more months. IBM was already struggling to grow hybrid cloud WITHOUT competition on that from the largest cloud provider." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1baWJAyw#replies [17:15] techrights-bot/fn New: " Just the cloud portion of Amazon (AWS) businesses is poised to overtake ALL of IBM in both income and profits in a few more months. IBM was already struggling to grow hybrid cloud WITHOUT competition on that from the largest cloud provider." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1baWJAyw#replies [17:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Interesting article on IBMs worth and its future - post regarding IBM layoffs [17:15] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.thelayoff.com | Interesting article on IBMs worth and its future - post regarding IBM layoffs [17:15] CrystalMath immibis: and can be up to 20 years old [17:15] CrystalMath/fn immibis: and can be up to 20 years old [17:16] techrights-bot 1 hour ago: "The revenue issue at #IBM will continue. When AK announced the GTS spin-off the charts showed Kyndryl at 19 billion and Hybrid IBM at 58 billion." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1baWJAyw#replies [17:16] techrights-bot/fn 1 hour ago: "The revenue issue at #IBM will continue. When AK announced the GTS spin-off the charts showed Kyndryl at 19 billion and Hybrid IBM at 58 billion." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1baWJAyw#replies [17:16] techrights-bot Minutes ago: "Just get a van and sleep in the #IBM parking lot. Many of the facilities have showers." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bafaIYZ#replies [17:16] techrights-bot/fn Minutes ago: "Just get a van and sleep in the #IBM parking lot. Many of the facilities have showers." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bafaIYZ#replies [17:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | why is ibm he-l bent on returning to office - post regarding IBM layoffs [17:16] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.thelayoff.com | why is ibm he-l bent on returning to office - post regarding IBM layoffs [17:17] techrights-bot One hour ago on #ibm layoffs and collapse: "Same reason they had us all relocate in the first place: to drive people out. Resignations are cheaper than layoffs" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bafaIYZ#replies [17:17] techrights-bot/fn One hour ago on #ibm layoffs and collapse: "Same reason they had us all relocate in the first place: to drive people out. Resignations are cheaper than layoffs" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bafaIYZ#replies [17:18] baronhk1[m] Lol [17:18] baronhk1[m]/fn Lol [17:18] techrights-bot #IBM / #RedHat / #Fedora Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151897 #GNU #Linux [17:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines [17:18] techrights-bot/fn #IBM / #RedHat / #Fedora Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151897 #GNU #Linux [17:18] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines [17:18] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.18 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 48.31 swarm size (avg): 237.38 [17:18] techrights-ipfs/fn IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.18 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 48.31 swarm size (avg): 237.38 [17:19] techrights-bot Audiocasts/Shows: Ubuntu Podcast, #BSDNow , and #TLLTS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151898 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:19] techrights-bot/fn Audiocasts/Shows: Ubuntu Podcast, #BSDNow , and #TLLTS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151898 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: Ubuntu Podcast, BSDNow, and TLLTS | Tux Machines [17:19] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: Ubuntu Podcast, BSDNow, and TLLTS | Tux Machines [17:20] immibis CrystalMath: does Linux care about segment permissions or segment limits or segment offsets other than FS and GS? [17:20] immibis/fn CrystalMath: does Linux care about segment permissions or segment limits or segment offsets other than FS and GS? [17:20] CrystalMath immibis: also your beloved UEFI requires 32-bit mode :P [17:20] CrystalMath/fn immibis: also your beloved UEFI requires 32-bit mode :P [17:21] immibis ... beloved? *blinks* [17:21] immibis/fn ... beloved? *blinks* [17:21] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:21] *asusbox has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:21] techrights-bot "I was pretty upset when I learned my relatively new (couple years old) mobo couldn't boot off #nvme without being in UEFI mode." Back doors or GTFO? By superkuh in #techrights #irc (moments ago) [17:21] techrights-bot/fn "I was pretty upset when I learned my relatively new (couple years old) mobo couldn't boot off #nvme without being in UEFI mode." Back doors or GTFO? By superkuh in #techrights #irc (moments ago) [17:21] CrystalMath immibis: see modify_ldt() available even in 64-bit [17:21] CrystalMath/fn immibis: see modify_ldt() available even in 64-bit [17:22] CrystalMath but cannot be used to create 64-bit segments ofc [17:22] CrystalMath/fn but cannot be used to create 64-bit segments ofc [17:22] CrystalMath just 32-bit compat [17:22] CrystalMath/fn just 32-bit compat [17:22] CrystalMath also a kernel config can disable 16-bit segments to be created, but this is an artificial blockade chosen by the user [17:22] CrystalMath/fn also a kernel config can disable 16-bit segments to be created, but this is an artificial blockade chosen by the user [17:23] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [17:23] CrystalMath "linux" still includes every possible config for it to not be broken [17:23] CrystalMath/fn "linux" still includes every possible config for it to not be broken [17:23] schestowitz immibis: the diff b/w 16bit and 32bit is massive compared to 32 and 64 [17:23] schestowitz/fn immibis: the diff b/w 16bit and 32bit is massive compared to 32 and 64 [17:23] *asusbox has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [17:23] CrystalMath so you need to be able to create 16-bit segments even in 64-bit mode [17:23] CrystalMath/fn so you need to be able to create 16-bit segments even in 64-bit mode [17:23] schestowitz not even comparable [17:23] schestowitz/fn not even comparable [17:23] CrystalMath schestowitz: not really [17:23] CrystalMath/fn schestowitz: not really [17:23] CrystalMath it is between real mode and protected mode [17:23] CrystalMath/fn it is between real mode and protected mode [17:23] schestowitz you could do just about anything except HPC with 32 [17:23] schestowitz/fn you could do just about anything except HPC with 32 [17:23] CrystalMath but 16-bit protected and 32-bit protected is 99.999% identical [17:23] CrystalMath/fn but 16-bit protected and 32-bit protected is 99.999% identical [17:24] CrystalMath it's just that nobody really used 16-bit protected mode except windows 3.11 :P [17:24] CrystalMath/fn it's just that nobody really used 16-bit protected mode except windows 3.11 :P [17:24] CrystalMath but... despite that, it's just ONE little bit [17:24] CrystalMath/fn but... despite that, it's just ONE little bit [17:24] CrystalMath of a difference [17:24] CrystalMath/fn of a difference [17:24] CrystalMath and in the microcode getting rid of one saves you *nothing* [17:24] CrystalMath/fn and in the microcode getting rid of one saves you *nothing* [17:24] schestowitz XRevan86: I think the RSS feeds of Meduza are broken [17:24] schestowitz/fn XRevan86: I think the RSS feeds of Meduza are broken [17:24] schestowitz I saw nothing this week [17:24] schestowitz/fn I saw nothing this week [17:25] schestowitz Whenever I email them about it I received no reply [17:25] schestowitz/fn Whenever I email them about it I received no reply [17:25] schestowitz so I stopped bothering [17:25] schestowitz/fn so I stopped bothering [17:26] CrystalMath also real mode is just a tiny diversion in the microcode, diverting from the gigantic monstrosity of protected mode, but REUSING the other monstrosity of 16-bit addressing logic which is still valid even in 64-bit long mode [17:26] CrystalMath/fn also real mode is just a tiny diversion in the microcode, diverting from the gigantic monstrosity of protected mode, but REUSING the other monstrosity of 16-bit addressing logic which is still valid even in 64-bit long mode [17:26] CrystalMath there's nothing to gain from removing it, only to lose [17:26] CrystalMath/fn there's nothing to gain from removing it, only to lose [17:27] CrystalMath amd64 was built specifically to keep all the legacy stuff, and it won [17:27] CrystalMath/fn amd64 was built specifically to keep all the legacy stuff, and it won [17:27] CrystalMath you can use arm64 [17:27] CrystalMath/fn you can use arm64 [17:27] CrystalMath it doesn't have that [17:27] CrystalMath/fn it doesn't have that [17:27] *asusbox (~rianne@haii6za73zabc.irc) has joined #techrights [17:27] CrystalMath or mips64, or RISC-V [17:27] CrystalMath/fn or mips64, or RISC-V [17:27] *asusbox (~rianne@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:f4bf:2fd3:cddc:7fb5) has joined #techrights [17:28] *rianne (~rianne@haii6za73zabc.irc) has joined #techrights [17:28] *rianne (~rianne@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:f4bf:2fd3:cddc:7fb5) has joined #techrights [17:28] CrystalMath all alright architectures [17:28] CrystalMath/fn all alright architectures [17:28] *phobos_anomaly has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [17:28] techrights-bot #Slimbook ONE #GNU #Linux Mini PC is Now Powered by a High-Performance AMD Chip https://news.itsfoss.com/slimbook-one-amd-mini-pc/ [17:28] techrights-bot/fn #Slimbook ONE #GNU #Linux Mini PC is Now Powered by a High-Performance AMD Chip https://news.itsfoss.com/slimbook-one-amd-mini-pc/ [17:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.itsfoss.com | Slimbook ONE Linux Mini PC is Now Powered by a High-Performance AMD Chip - It's FOSS News [17:28] TechrightsBot-tr/fn news.itsfoss.com | Slimbook ONE Linux Mini PC is Now Powered by a High-Performance AMD Chip - It's FOSS News [17:28] MinceR ARM has tons of legacy stuff, though [17:28] MinceR/fn ARM has tons of legacy stuff, though [17:28] CrystalMath well :) [17:28] CrystalMath/fn well :) [17:28] CrystalMath compatibility is good [17:28] CrystalMath/fn compatibility is good [17:28] *phobos_anomaly (~phobos@unaffiliated/phobos-anomaly/x-6744724) has joined #techrights [17:28] MinceR various instruction set sizes and whatever [17:28] MinceR/fn various instruction set sizes and whatever [17:28] CrystalMath it's not a bug [17:28] CrystalMath/fn it's not a bug [17:28] *guysoft42 (~guysoft@space.telavivmakers.org) has joined #techrights [17:29] CrystalMath it's a feature in my opinion [17:29] CrystalMath/fn it's a feature in my opinion [17:29] CrystalMath living without a rearview mirror sucks [17:29] CrystalMath/fn living without a rearview mirror sucks [17:29] MinceR i'm not the one who has an allergy to old stuff that works [17:29] MinceR/fn i'm not the one who has an allergy to old stuff that works [17:30] techrights-bot Jason Perlow, from Microsoft, now speaks for Linux Foundation, and cooperates on the killing of the Linux brand https://linuxfoundation.org/en/blog/interview-with-daniel-scales-chief-brand-counsel-linux-foundation/ see http://techrights.org/2021/05/31/linux-brand-killed-by-lf/ [17:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxfoundation.org | Interview with Daniel Scales, Chief Brand Counsel, Linux Foundation - Linux Foundation [17:30] techrights-bot/fn Jason Perlow, from Microsoft, now speaks for Linux Foundation, and cooperates on the killing of the Linux brand https://linuxfoundation.org/en/blog/interview-with-daniel-scales-chief-brand-counsel-linux-foundation/ see http://techrights.org/2021/05/31/linux-brand-killed-by-lf/ [17:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation Has Killed the Linux Brand (in Pursuit of Short-Term Profits) | Techrights [17:30] TechrightsBot-tr/fn linuxfoundation.org | Interview with Daniel Scales, Chief Brand Counsel, Linux Foundation - Linux Foundation [17:30] TechrightsBot-tr/fn techrights.org | Linux Foundation Has Killed the Linux Brand (in Pursuit of Short-Term Profits) | Techrights [17:33] techrights-bot Wow, #tecmint now reposts with a new date articles from 6 years ago. Lately they've just been faking the age of articles, in pursuit of traffic... https://www.tecmint.com/installation-of-manjaro-linux/ [17:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com | Installation of Manjaro 21.0 (KDE Edition) Desktop [17:33] techrights-bot/fn Wow, #tecmint now reposts with a new date articles from 6 years ago. Lately they've just been faking the age of articles, in pursuit of traffic... https://www.tecmint.com/installation-of-manjaro-linux/ [17:33] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tecmint.com | Installation of Manjaro 21.0 (KDE Edition) Desktop [17:34] XRevan86 schestowitz: They keep breaking it [17:34] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: They keep breaking it [17:34] schestowitz XRevan86: they ought to have alerting in place [17:34] schestowitz/fn XRevan86: they ought to have alerting in place [17:34] schestowitz if TR can have it, Meduza can too [17:34] schestowitz/fn if TR can have it, Meduza can too [17:35] schestowitz not too hard to check the integrity of RSS feeds, just fetch them and see if they can be parsed OK [17:35] schestowitz/fn not too hard to check the integrity of RSS feeds, just fetch them and see if they can be parsed OK [17:35] schestowitz but maybe they rely on 'social' 'media' instead [17:35] schestowitz/fn but maybe they rely on 'social' 'media' instead [17:37] techrights-bot Department of Defense (DoD) + #ibm #redhat = fake #security https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/separation-of-duty see http://techrights.org/2021/01/30/fake-security/ [17:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | How do you handle NIST's separation of duty requirements? | Enable Sysadmin [17:37] techrights-bot/fn Department of Defense (DoD) + #ibm #redhat = fake #security https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/separation-of-duty see http://techrights.org/2021/01/30/fake-security/ [17:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Fake Security is Still a Real Problem, Even in the GNU/Linux (and BSD) Spheres | Techrights [17:37] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.redhat.com | How do you handle NIST's separation of duty requirements? | Enable Sysadmin [17:37] TechrightsBot-tr/fn techrights.org | Fake Security is Still a Real Problem, Even in the GNU/Linux (and BSD) Spheres | Techrights [17:38] techrights-bot Create your own low-cost contactless IR thermometer with Arduino | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/06/02/create-your-own-low-cost-contactless-ir-thermometer-with-arduino/ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/03/#latest [17:38] techrights-bot/fn Create your own low-cost contactless IR thermometer with Arduino | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/06/02/create-your-own-low-cost-contactless-ir-thermometer-with-arduino/ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/03/#latest [17:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Create your own low-cost contactless IR thermometer with Arduino | Arduino Blog [17:38] TechrightsBot-tr/fn blog.arduino.cc | Create your own low-cost contactless IR thermometer with Arduino | Arduino Blog [17:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [17:38] TechrightsBot-tr/fn schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [17:41] techrights-bot "What a terrible company this has become. Old man Watson would be spinning in his grave." #ibm #layoffs #exodus https://www.thelayoff.com/t/16nprIQd#replies [17:41] techrights-bot/fn "What a terrible company this has become. Old man Watson would be spinning in his grave." #ibm #layoffs #exodus https://www.thelayoff.com/t/16nprIQd#replies [17:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Over - post regarding IBM layoffs [17:41] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.thelayoff.com | Over - post regarding IBM layoffs [17:41] MinceR would he really? [17:41] MinceR/fn would he really? [17:42] schestowitz yes [17:42] schestowitz/fn yes [17:42] schestowitz with his nazi mates [17:42] schestowitz/fn with his nazi mates [17:42] MinceR :> [17:42] MinceR/fn :> [17:42] schestowitz like a fedora rspin [17:42] schestowitz/fn like a fedora rspin [17:42] schestowitz *respin [17:42] schestowitz/fn *respin [17:43] phobos_anomaly wrap 'em in copper wire... could use him to generate more electricity for the grid... might solve the california brown out problem [17:43] phobos_anomaly/fn wrap 'em in copper wire... could use him to generate more electricity for the grid... might solve the california brown out problem [17:45] techrights-bot #Nvidia #DLSS is coming to boost frame rates for Linux gamers this month http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151810#comment-29854 [17:45] techrights-bot/fn #Nvidia #DLSS is coming to boost frame rates for Linux gamers this month http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151810#comment-29854 [17:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Nintendo, NVIDIA, AMD, Wolfenstein, and Ray Tracing | Tux Machines [17:45] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Nintendo, NVIDIA, AMD, Wolfenstein, and Ray Tracing | Tux Machines [17:45] *asusbox has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [17:45] *asusbox has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [17:45] *asusbox (~rianne@haii6za73zabc.irc) has joined #techrights [17:46] techrights-bot #ibm #redhat : with partners like these... https://finance.yahoo.com/news/red-hat-enterprise-linux-sap-130000610.html #ProprietarySoftware [17:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-finance.yahoo.com | Red Hat Enterprise Linux for SAP Solutions Now Available on SAP Store [17:46] techrights-bot/fn #ibm #redhat : with partners like these... https://finance.yahoo.com/news/red-hat-enterprise-linux-sap-130000610.html #ProprietarySoftware [17:46] TechrightsBot-tr/fn finance.yahoo.com | Red Hat Enterprise Linux for SAP Solutions Now Available on SAP Store [17:46] *asusbox (~rianne@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:f4bf:2fd3:cddc:7fb5) has joined #techrights [17:48] techrights-bot "A new IDC white paper sponsored by Red Hat..." So just like #microsoft the #ibm #redhat managers now bribe fake 'experts' to produce propaganda in "study" clothing https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/idc-study-reveals-value-red-hat-certification see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/IDC [17:48] techrights-bot/fn "A new IDC white paper sponsored by Red Hat..." So just like #microsoft the #ibm #redhat managers now bribe fake 'experts' to produce propaganda in "study" clothing https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/idc-study-reveals-value-red-hat-certification see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/IDC [17:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | IDC study reveals the value of Red Hat Certification [17:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IDC - Techrights [17:48] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.redhat.com | IDC study reveals the value of Red Hat Certification [17:48] TechrightsBot-tr/fn techrights.org | IDC - Techrights [17:49] techrights-bot Gordon Haff from IBM, a former 'analyst', on rebranding servers as "clown" https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/you-need-hybrid-cloud-digital-transformation #marketing #clowncomputing #cloudwashing [17:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | You need a hybrid cloud for digital transformation [17:49] techrights-bot/fn Gordon Haff from IBM, a former 'analyst', on rebranding servers as "clown" https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/you-need-hybrid-cloud-digital-transformation #marketing #clowncomputing #cloudwashing [17:49] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.redhat.com | You need a hybrid cloud for digital transformation [17:51] techrights-bot #RedHat is leaning on #proprietarysoftware companies now, instead of competing with them [17:51] techrights-bot/fn #RedHat is leaning on #proprietarysoftware companies now, instead of competing with them [17:53] techrights-bot/fn Low paid or unpaid #redhat workers. Is this the future under #ibm h https://www.madelinepeck.com/blog/2021/5/24/summer-intern-restart-up [17:53] techrights-bot Low paid or unpaid #redhat workers. Is this the future under #ibm h https://www.madelinepeck.com/blog/2021/5/24/summer-intern-restart-up [17:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.madelinepeck.com | Summer Intern Restart Up Madeline Peck [17:53] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.madelinepeck.com | Summer Intern Restart Up Madeline Peck [17:54] techrights-bot "So you could turn it into a more traditional desktop-Linux based system if you wanted to." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/atari-vcs-finally-actually-launches-in-the-us-on-june-15 #games #gnu #linux [17:54] techrights-bot/fn "So you could turn it into a more traditional desktop-Linux based system if you wanted to." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/atari-vcs-finally-actually-launches-in-the-us-on-june-15 #games #gnu #linux [17:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Atari VCS finally actually launches (in the US) on June 15 | GamingOnLinux [17:54] TechrightsBot-tr/fn Atari VCS finally actually launches (in the US) on June 15 | GamingOnLinux [17:56] techrights-bot "The release is due sometime in "Q2 2022" with #GNU #Linux fully supported." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/thousand-lives-is-an-upcoming-minimalist-rogue-lite-role-playing-life-simulation [17:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Thousand Lives is an upcoming minimalist rogue-lite role playing life simulation | GamingOnLinux [17:56] techrights-bot/fn "The release is due sometime in "Q2 2022" with #GNU #Linux fully supported." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/thousand-lives-is-an-upcoming-minimalist-rogue-lite-role-playing-life-simulation [17:56] TechrightsBot-tr/fn Thousand Lives is an upcoming minimalist rogue-lite role playing life simulation | GamingOnLinux [17:56] MinceR (audio:unimportant) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2021/05/05/5b86589ece2c31db.mp4 [17:56] MinceR/fn (audio:unimportant) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2021/05/05/5b86589ece2c31db.mp4 [17:57] techrights-bot "Even better, it's built on #GNU #Linux for GNU/Linux, as the developer noted before." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/if-youre-looking-for-a-virtual-table-top-check-out-the-latest-foundry-vtt [17:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-If you're looking for a virtual table-top check out the latest Foundry VTT | GamingOnLinux [17:57] techrights-bot/fn "Even better, it's built on #GNU #Linux for GNU/Linux, as the developer noted before." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/if-youre-looking-for-a-virtual-table-top-check-out-the-latest-foundry-vtt [17:57] TechrightsBot-tr/fn If you're looking for a virtual table-top check out the latest Foundry VTT | GamingOnLinux [17:57] techrights-bot "Even better, it's built on #GNU #Linux for GNU/Linux, as the developer noted before." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/if-youre-looking-for-a-virtual-table-top-check-out-the-latest-foundry-vtt [17:57] techrights-bot/fn "Even better, it's built on #GNU #Linux for GNU/Linux, as the developer noted before." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/if-youre-looking-for-a-virtual-table-top-check-out-the-latest-foundry-vtt [17:59] schestowitz MinceR: that's me beneath the surface [17:59] schestowitz/fn MinceR: that's me beneath the surface ● Jun 03 [18:00] MinceR :) [18:00] MinceR/fn :) [18:00] schestowitz with Mr. Beans [18:00] schestowitz/fn with Mr. Beans [18:00] techrights-bot #ROS #Kinetic migration and its challenges A community perspective. https://ubuntu.com//blog/ros-kinetic-migration-and-its-challenges-a-community-perspective [18:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ROS Kinetic migration and its challenges A community perspective. | Ubuntu [18:00] techrights-bot/fn #ROS #Kinetic migration and its challenges A community perspective. https://ubuntu.com//blog/ros-kinetic-migration-and-its-challenges-a-community-perspective [18:00] TechrightsBot-tr/fn ROS Kinetic migration and its challenges A community perspective. | Ubuntu [18:01] techrights-bot #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151899 #Linux #TuxMachines [18:01] techrights-bot/fn #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151899 #Linux #TuxMachines [18:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [18:01] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [18:01] techrights-bot #Games : Atari VCS, Loop Hero, Thousand Lives, and Foundry VTT (Foundry Virtual Tabletop) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151900 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #Gaming [18:01] techrights-bot/fn #Games : Atari VCS, Loop Hero, Thousand Lives, and Foundry VTT (Foundry Virtual Tabletop) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151900 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #Gaming [18:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Atari VCS, Loop Hero, Thousand Lives, and Foundry VTT (Foundry Virtual Tabletop) | Tux Machines [18:01] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Atari VCS, Loop Hero, Thousand Lives, and Foundry VTT (Foundry Virtual Tabletop) | Tux Machines [18:02] techrights-bot #ReproducibleBuilds in May 2021 https://reproducible-builds.org/reports/2021-05/ #security #freesw [18:02] techrights-bot/fn #ReproducibleBuilds in May 2021 https://reproducible-builds.org/reports/2021-05/ #security #freesw [18:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Reproducible Builds in May 2021 reproducible-builds.org [18:02] TechrightsBot-tr/fn Reproducible Builds in May 2021 reproducible-builds.org [18:06] techrights-bot #AMD is bringing performance-boosting #SmartShift tech to #Linux laptops http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151847#comment-29855 [18:06] techrights-bot/fn #AMD is bringing performance-boosting #SmartShift tech to #Linux laptops http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151847#comment-29855 [18:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AMD Continues Working On SmartShift Support For Linux | Tux Machines [18:06] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | AMD Continues Working On SmartShift Support For Linux | Tux Machines [18:11] techrights-bot/fn You can imagine what OS it runs... https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/qnap-announces-tvs-x72x-10-gbe-nas-with-4k-hdmi-and-m-2-nvme-ssd-support.html [18:11] techrights-bot You can imagine what OS it runs... https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/qnap-announces-tvs-x72x-10-gbe-nas-with-4k-hdmi-and-m-2-nvme-ssd-support.html [18:11] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.guru3d.com | QNAP Announces TVS-x72X 10 GbE NAS with 4K HDMI and M.2 NVMe SSD Support [18:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.guru3d.com | QNAP Announces TVS-x72X 10 GbE NAS with 4K HDMI and M.2 NVMe SSD Support [18:11] XRevan86 schestowitz: I'll try reporting through Ctrl+Enter [18:11] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: I'll try reporting through Ctrl+Enter [18:11] techrights-bot #Mozilla: Rust, #MicrosoftTim on Latest #Firefox , and #TorBrowser 10.0.17 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151901 #www #TuxMachines [18:11] techrights-bot/fn #Mozilla: Rust, #MicrosoftTim on Latest #Firefox , and #TorBrowser 10.0.17 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151901 #www #TuxMachines [18:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla: Rust, Microsoft Tim on Latest Firefox, and Tor Browser 10.0.17 | Tux Machines [18:12] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla: Rust, Microsoft Tim on Latest Firefox, and Tor Browser 10.0.17 | Tux Machines [18:14] techrights-bot "Recent versions of Podman, Buildah, and CRI-O have started to take advantage of a new kernel feature, volatile overlay mounts." #ibm 'innovation' as #vendorLockin with #redhat brands https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/container-volatile-overlay-mounts [18:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | New container feature: Volatile overlay mounts | Enable Sysadmin [18:14] techrights-bot/fn "Recent versions of Podman, Buildah, and CRI-O have started to take advantage of a new kernel feature, volatile overlay mounts." #ibm 'innovation' as #vendorLockin with #redhat brands https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/container-volatile-overlay-mounts [18:14] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.redhat.com | New container feature: Volatile overlay mounts | Enable Sysadmin [18:16] techrights-bot "On behalf of the Dancer Core Team, I'd like to announce the availability of Dancer2 0.301003." #perl #programming http://blogs.perl.org/users/jason_a_crome/2021/06/dancer2-0301003-released.html [18:16] techrights-bot/fn "On behalf of the Dancer Core Team, I'd like to announce the availability of Dancer2 0.301003." #perl #programming http://blogs.perl.org/users/jason_a_crome/2021/06/dancer2-0301003-released.html [18:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dancer2 0.301003 Released | Jason A. Crome [blogs.perl.org] [18:16] TechrightsBot-tr/fn Dancer2 0.301003 Released | Jason A. Crome [blogs.perl.org] [18:17] schestowitz XRevan86: not the keyboard shortcut but some site called that? [18:17] schestowitz/fn XRevan86: not the keyboard shortcut but some site called that? [18:17] XRevan86 schestowitz: The keyboard shortcut [18:17] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: The keyboard shortcut [18:17] techrights-bot #ArchLinux has a 2021.06.01 build now. #RollingRelease #gnu #linux [18:17] techrights-bot/fn #ArchLinux has a 2021.06.01 build now. #RollingRelease #gnu #linux [18:24] techrights-bot But that also helps #google follow you everywhere https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/chrome-follow-websites.html I'd say, if you care about #www then stay WELL away from Google (or GAFAM) https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/chrome-follow-feeds.html [18:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ctrl.blog | Chrome experiment lets you Follow news and website updates [18:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ctrl.blog | A deeper dive into Chrome WebFeed [18:24] techrights-bot/fn But that also helps #google follow you everywhere https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/chrome-follow-websites.html I'd say, if you care about #www then stay WELL away from Google (or GAFAM) https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/chrome-follow-feeds.html [18:24] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.ctrl.blog | Chrome experiment lets you Follow news and website updates [18:24] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.ctrl.blog | A deeper dive into Chrome WebFeed [18:26] techrights-bot #NVIDIA 460.84 Linux Driver Released With GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Support - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-460.84-Linux-Driver #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/03/#latest [18:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NVIDIA 460.84 Linux Driver Released With GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Support - Phoronix [18:26] techrights-bot/fn #NVIDIA 460.84 Linux Driver Released With GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Support - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-460.84-Linux-Driver #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/03/#latest [18:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [18:26] TechrightsBot-tr/fn NVIDIA 460.84 Linux Driver Released With GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Support - Phoronix [18:26] TechrightsBot-tr/fn schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [18:26] techrights-bot #AMD Queues More Beige Goby Bring-Up, 16bpc Format For Vulkan, Smart Shift For Linux 5.14 - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMDGPU-SS-BG-Linux-5.14 #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/03/#latest [18:26] techrights-bot/fn #AMD Queues More Beige Goby Bring-Up, 16bpc Format For Vulkan, Smart Shift For Linux 5.14 - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMDGPU-SS-BG-Linux-5.14 #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/03/#latest [18:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMD Queues More Beige Goby Bring-Up, 16bpc Format For Vulkan, Smart Shift For Linux 5.14 - Phoronix [18:27] TechrightsBot-tr/fn AMD Queues More Beige Goby Bring-Up, 16bpc Format For Vulkan, Smart Shift For Linux 5.14 - Phoronix [18:27] techrights-bot [Mesa-dev] [ANNOUNCE] mesa 21.1.2 https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/mesa-dev/2021-June/225336.html #mesa #linux #graphics #freesw [18:27] techrights-bot/fn [Mesa-dev] [ANNOUNCE] mesa 21.1.2 https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/mesa-dev/2021-June/225336.html #mesa #linux #graphics #freesw [18:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.freedesktop.org | [Mesa-dev] [ANNOUNCE] mesa 21.1.2 [18:27] TechrightsBot-tr/fn lists.freedesktop.org | [Mesa-dev] [ANNOUNCE] mesa 21.1.2 [18:28] techrights-bot DXVK-NVAPI 0.3 Released For Being Able To Expose More Of NVIDIA's Public API Within #SteamPlay - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=DXVK-NVAPI-0.3 #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/03/#latest [18:28] techrights-bot/fn DXVK-NVAPI 0.3 Released For Being Able To Expose More Of NVIDIA's Public API Within #SteamPlay - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=DXVK-NVAPI-0.3 #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/03/#latest [18:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-DXVK-NVAPI 0.3 Released For Being Able To Expose More Of NVIDIA's Public API Within Steam Play - Phoronix [18:28] TechrightsBot-tr/fn DXVK-NVAPI 0.3 Released For Being Able To Expose More Of NVIDIA's Public API Within Steam Play - Phoronix [18:30] techrights-bot/fn How to become a ZUCKER instead of studying #programming frameworks not tied to #surveillanceCapitalism and #imperialism by #espionage https://www.linuxlinks.com/excellent-free-tutorials-learn-hack/ [18:30] techrights-bot How to become a ZUCKER instead of studying #programming frameworks not tied to #surveillanceCapitalism and #imperialism by #espionage https://www.linuxlinks.com/excellent-free-tutorials-learn-hack/ [18:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Excellent Free Tutorials to Learn Hack - LinuxLinks [18:30] TechrightsBot-tr/fn Excellent Free Tutorials to Learn Hack - LinuxLinks [18:31] techrights-bot Storage is very cheap and network capacities at homes improved vastly. Why still outsource your data??? https://changelog.complete.org/archives/10265-roundup-of-unique-data-storage-hosting-options #changelog | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/03/#latest [18:31] techrights-bot/fn Storage is very cheap and network capacities at homes improved vastly. Why still outsource your data??? https://changelog.complete.org/archives/10265-roundup-of-unique-data-storage-hosting-options #changelog | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/03/#latest [18:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-changelog.complete.org | Roundup of Unique Data/Storage Hosting Options | The Changelog [18:32] TechrightsBot-tr/fn changelog.complete.org | Roundup of Unique Data/Storage Hosting Options | The Changelog [18:32] techrights-bot SPAMMING perfumed as email marketing and then a tingle of #openwashing https://medevel.com/12-open-source-free-self-hosted-email-marketing-solutions-alternative-to-mailchimp-sendinblue/ [18:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | 12 open-source free self-hosted email marketing solutions [18:32] techrights-bot/fn SPAMMING perfumed as email marketing and then a tingle of #openwashing https://medevel.com/12-open-source-free-self-hosted-email-marketing-solutions-alternative-to-mailchimp-sendinblue/ [18:32] TechrightsBot-tr/fn medevel.com | 12 open-source free self-hosted email marketing solutions [18:33] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:33] *asusbox has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:33] techrights-bot "Matt Mullenwegs words in The Commons of Images episode of the WP Briefing podcast exemplify the core philosophy of the WordPress project, especially as we inch closer to the next major release (version 5.8)." https://wordpress.org/news/2021/06/the-month-in-wordpress-may-2021/ [18:33] techrights-bot/fn "Matt Mullenwegs words in The Commons of Images episode of the WP Briefing podcast exemplify the core philosophy of the WordPress project, especially as we inch closer to the next major release (version 5.8)." https://wordpress.org/news/2021/06/the-month-in-wordpress-may-2021/ [18:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-News The Month in WordPress: May 2021 WordPress.org [18:33] TechrightsBot-tr/fn News The Month in WordPress: May 2021 WordPress.org [18:34] *asusbox has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [18:35] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [18:36] techrights-bot Excuses for #ibm pushing workers to spread viruses while COVID still rages on: "If you're a young person who looks at this as a career and not just a pay check, then it probably is also in your interest to go into the office, because otherwise, your peers who do will get the skills and the promotions over you." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bafaIYZ#replies [18:36] techrights-bot/fn Excuses for #ibm pushing workers to spread viruses while COVID still rages on: "If you're a young person who looks at this as a career and not just a pay check, then it probably is also in your interest to go into the office, because otherwise, your peers who do will get the skills and the promotions over you." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bafaIYZ#replies [18:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | why is ibm he-l bent on returning to office - post regarding IBM layoffs [18:36] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.thelayoff.com | why is ibm he-l bent on returning to office - post regarding IBM layoffs [18:37] MinceR (cat) (no audio) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2021/04/20/7da34b22bd459fd4.mp4 [18:37] MinceR/fn (cat) (no audio) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2021/04/20/7da34b22bd459fd4.mp4 [18:39] techrights-bot "But apparently, not all components are, and Arm has now announced the Open-CMSIS-Pack project that will move part of #CMSIS into the open project in collaboration with the Linaro IoT and Embedded Group." https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/06/03/arm-introduces-open-cmsis-pack-and-keil-studio-cloud-for-mcu-software-development/ [18:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Arm introduces Open-CMSIS-Pack and Keil Studio Cloud for MCU software development - CNX Software [18:39] techrights-bot/fn "But apparently, not all components are, and Arm has now announced the Open-CMSIS-Pack project that will move part of #CMSIS into the open project in collaboration with the Linaro IoT and Embedded Group." https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/06/03/arm-introduces-open-cmsis-pack-and-keil-studio-cloud-for-mcu-software-development/ [18:39] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.cnx-software.com | Arm introduces Open-CMSIS-Pack and Keil Studio Cloud for MCU software development - CNX Software [18:40] techrights-bot "I recently came across an excellent tool called KeyCombiner that helps you practice keyboard shortcuts (3 sets for free, $29/6 months for more sets). I spent some time to create a set for Amazing Marvin, my current todo manager of choice." http://thomas.apestaart.org/log/?p=1630 [18:40] techrights-bot/fn "I recently came across an excellent tool called KeyCombiner that helps you practice keyboard shortcuts (3 sets for free, $29/6 months for more sets). I spent some time to create a set for Amazing Marvin, my current todo manager of choice." http://thomas.apestaart.org/log/?p=1630 [18:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thomas.apestaart.org Amazing Marvin and KeyCombiner [18:40] TechrightsBot-tr/fn thomas.apestaart.org Amazing Marvin and KeyCombiner [18:41] techrights-bot #GNU #GRUB Adds Backup/Restore Safeguard, Support For Going Beyond Year 2038 - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=GRUB-Backup-Restore #Phoronix [18:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GRUB Adds Backup/Restore Safeguard, Support For Going Beyond Year 2038 - Phoronix [18:41] techrights-bot/fn #GNU #GRUB Adds Backup/Restore Safeguard, Support For Going Beyond Year 2038 - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=GRUB-Backup-Restore #Phoronix [18:41] TechrightsBot-tr/fn GRUB Adds Backup/Restore Safeguard, Support For Going Beyond Year 2038 - Phoronix [18:44] techrights-bot It's 2021 and #Intel STILL doesn't know how to set up a #git server https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-HAXM-7.7 they used to self-host with #gitlab and #freesw but then they got infiltrated by Microsofters: http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks [18:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Releases HAXM 7.7 For Open-Source, Cross-Platform Virtualization Engine - Phoronix [18:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intel leaks - Techrights [18:44] techrights-bot/fn It's 2021 and #Intel STILL doesn't know how to set up a #git server https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-HAXM-7.7 they used to self-host with #gitlab and #freesw but then they got infiltrated by Microsofters: http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks [18:44] TechrightsBot-tr/fn Intel Releases HAXM 7.7 For Open-Source, Cross-Platform Virtualization Engine - Phoronix [18:44] TechrightsBot-tr/fn techrights.org | Intel leaks - Techrights [18:50] techrights-bot #billBC pretended we were getting #covid19 under control with #billgates -connected products (which he INSISTED on PRIVATISING with #patents though us the taxpayers paid for tge research!). Latest stats: 6,496 new cases (34.7% increase week-to-week), patients admitted to hospital up 17.1%, testing down by 17.3% (so the reality is even worse) [18:50] techrights-bot/fn #billBC pretended we were getting #covid19 under control with #billgates -connected products (which he INSISTED on PRIVATISING with #patents though us the taxpayers paid for tge research!). Latest stats: 6,496 new cases (34.7% increase week-to-week), patients admitted to hospital up 17.1%, testing down by 17.3% (so the reality is even worse) [18:54] techrights-bot Dbus-Broker 29 Released, Says Goodbye To Some Older Kernel Support - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Dbus-Broker-29-Released they'll need to #deletegithub to be seen as more technically professional. #kernel stuff outsourced to #microsoft #proprietarySoftware is 'bad taste' http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github [18:54] techrights-bot/fn Dbus-Broker 29 Released, Says Goodbye To Some Older Kernel Support - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Dbus-Broker-29-Released they'll need to #deletegithub to be seen as more technically professional. #kernel stuff outsourced to #microsoft #proprietarySoftware is 'bad taste' http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github [18:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dbus-Broker 29 Released, Says Goodbye To Some Older Kernel Support - Phoronix [18:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Delete Github - Techrights [18:54] TechrightsBot-tr/fn Dbus-Broker 29 Released, Says Goodbye To Some Older Kernel Support - Phoronix [18:54] TechrightsBot-tr/fn techrights.org | Delete Github - Techrights [18:55] techrights-bot #WASM3 v0.5 Released With Claims To Be The Fastest #WebAssembly Interpreter - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=WASM3-v0.5-Released #deletegithub http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github [18:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-WASM3 v0.5 Released With Claims To Be The Fastest WebAssembly Interpreter - Phoronix [18:55] techrights-bot/fn #WASM3 v0.5 Released With Claims To Be The Fastest #WebAssembly Interpreter - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=WASM3-v0.5-Released #deletegithub http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github [18:55] TechrightsBot-tr/fn WASM3 v0.5 Released With Claims To Be The Fastest WebAssembly Interpreter - Phoronix [18:55] *rianne (~rianne@haii6za73zabc.irc) has joined #techrights [18:55] *asusbox (~rianne@haii6za73zabc.irc) has joined #techrights [18:55] *rianne (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [18:55] *asusbox (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [18:57] techrights-bot #ibm #braindrain "People just watch their phones all day in the office or took 20 smoke breaks. Fun hours, town halls did not help productivity yet were mandatory? (more waste)... The "more engaged" is BS, most worked with teams not even local to their office." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bafaIYZ#replies [18:57] techrights-bot/fn #ibm #braindrain "People just watch their phones all day in the office or took 20 smoke breaks. Fun hours, town halls did not help productivity yet were mandatory? (more waste)... The "more engaged" is BS, most worked with teams not even local to their office." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bafaIYZ#replies [18:58] techrights-bot #Julia 1.6 addresses latency issues https://lwn.net/Articles/856819/ #programming [18:58] techrights-bot/fn #Julia 1.6 addresses latency issues https://lwn.net/Articles/856819/ #programming [18:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Julia 1.6 addresses latency issues [LWN.net] [18:58] TechrightsBot-tr/fn Julia 1.6 addresses latency issues [LWN.net] ● Jun 03 [19:02] techrights-bot Why #RISCV doesn't (yet) support #KVM https://lwn.net/Articles/856685/ [19:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why RISC-V doesn't (yet) support KVM [LWN.net] [19:02] techrights-bot/fn Why #RISCV doesn't (yet) support #KVM https://lwn.net/Articles/856685/ [19:03] TechrightsBot-tr/fn Why RISC-V doesn't (yet) support KVM [LWN.net] [19:03] schestowitz The paywall on this article has just lapsed (today): https://lwn.net/Articles/857140/ [19:03] schestowitz/fn The paywall on this article has just lapsed (today): https://lwn.net/Articles/857140/ [19:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Turmoil at the freenode IRC network [LWN.net] [19:03] TechrightsBot-tr/fn Turmoil at the freenode IRC network [LWN.net] [19:03] schestowitz maybe some freenode people like rasengan can comment on its accuracy now without paying LWN [19:03] schestowitz/fn maybe some freenode people like rasengan can comment on its accuracy now without paying LWN [19:04] techrights-bot Graphics: Yellow Carp, DXVK-NVAPI, Mesa, #AMD , and #NVIDIA http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151902 #kernel #Linux #TuxMachines [19:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Graphics: Yellow Carp, DXVK-NVAPI, Mesa, AMD, and NVIDIA | Tux Machines [19:04] techrights-bot/fn Graphics: Yellow Carp, DXVK-NVAPI, Mesa, #AMD , and #NVIDIA http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151902 #kernel #Linux #TuxMachines [19:04] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | Graphics: Yellow Carp, DXVK-NVAPI, Mesa, AMD, and NVIDIA | Tux Machines [19:06] rasengan schestowitz: Ah, yes, there are a lot of "inaccuracies" about the whole ordeal circulating for sure. IT's really unfortunate, but it's also an interesting phenomena. [19:06] rasengan/fn schestowitz: Ah, yes, there are a lot of "inaccuracies" about the whole ordeal circulating for sure. IT's really unfortunate, but it's also an interesting phenomena. [19:06] schestowitz I am looking at the comments now [19:06] schestowitz/fn I am looking at the comments now [19:06] schestowitz they're all about you [19:06] schestowitz/fn they're all about you [19:06] schestowitz personification simplifies it for people [19:06] schestowitz/fn personification simplifies it for people [19:06] schestowitz same with FSF being turned into RMS [19:06] schestowitz/fn same with FSF being turned into RMS [19:07] schestowitz and then it's about "things I don't like about RMS" [19:07] schestowitz/fn and then it's about "things I don't like about RMS" [19:07] schestowitz rasengan: well, I saw not a single blog post about IRC today [19:07] schestowitz/fn rasengan: well, I saw not a single blog post about IRC today [19:07] schestowitz I check about 500 sites [19:07] schestowitz/fn I check about 500 sites [19:07] schestowitz if the flux settles people will be more productive again [19:07] schestowitz/fn if the flux settles people will be more productive again [19:07] rasengan That's true [19:07] rasengan/fn That's true [19:08] immibis but, most of them will be productive on that other network (which shall not be named under threat of ban) [19:08] immibis/fn but, most of them will be productive on that other network (which shall not be named under threat of ban) [19:08] schestowitz the upside is that for the first time in decades IRC made many headlines and people who never heard of it now have a rough idea that it exists [19:08] schestowitz/fn the upside is that for the first time in decades IRC made many headlines and people who never heard of it now have a rough idea that it exists [19:08] schestowitz immibis: lol what? [19:09] schestowitz/fn immibis: lol what? [19:09] schestowitz we'd never ban people for mentioning it [19:09] schestowitz/fn we'd never ban people for mentioning it [19:09] schestowitz unless you allude here to freenode ltd [19:09] schestowitz/fn unless you allude here to freenode ltd [19:09] immibis IIRC freenode has banned people for saying you should go there [19:10] immibis/fn IIRC freenode has banned people for saying you should go there [19:10] immibis or did they just seize channels. either way they don't like it [19:10] immibis/fn or did they just seize channels. either way they don't like it [19:10] MinceR afaik they just took over channels for having that in the topic [19:10] MinceR/fn afaik they just took over channels for having that in the topic [19:11] schestowitz 700 channels iirc? [19:11] schestowitz/fn 700 channels iirc? [19:11] MinceR \_()_/ [19:11] MinceR/fn \_()_/ [19:12] schestowitz https://netsplit.de/networks/statistics.php?net=freenode [19:12] schestowitz/fn https://netsplit.de/networks/statistics.php?net=freenode [19:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-netsplit.de | NO TITLE [19:12] TechrightsBot-tr/fn netsplit.de | NO TITLE [19:12] schestowitz past week: https://netsplit.de/tmp/networks/stats-freenode-week-uc.png [19:12] schestowitz/fn past week: https://netsplit.de/tmp/networks/stats-freenode-week-uc.png [19:12] schestowitz number of channels quite steady https://netsplit.de/tmp/networks/stats-freenode-week-uc.png [19:12] schestowitz/fn number of channels quite steady https://netsplit.de/tmp/networks/stats-freenode-week-uc.png [19:13] schestowitz this week number of users online also quite steady [19:13] schestowitz/fn this week number of users online also quite steady [19:13] immibis yeah, that's just inertia. I am seeing way more actual speech happening on libera than freenode. I myself am in many channels on both networks, but mostly just to point out where everyone's gone, seeing as putting that in the topic is illegal [19:13] immibis/fn yeah, that's just inertia. I am seeing way more actual speech happening on libera than freenode. I myself am in many channels on both networks, but mostly just to point out where everyone's gone, seeing as putting that in the topic is illegal [19:13] schestowitz like I said, people need to get back to work... [19:13] schestowitz/fn like I said, people need to get back to work... [19:13] schestowitz all that IRC infighting isn't productive [19:13] schestowitz/fn all that IRC infighting isn't productive [19:14] schestowitz tonight I'll write some bits about Novell and IBM [19:14] schestowitz/fn tonight I'll write some bits about Novell and IBM [19:14] immibis yup, those who have fully moved are now being productive over there; those who also stayed to watch the drama are of course making a conscious decision to be less productive in exchange for having to eat more popcorn [19:14] immibis/fn yup, those who have fully moved are now being productive over there; those who also stayed to watch the drama are of course making a conscious decision to be less productive in exchange for having to eat more popcorn [19:14] MinceR aha, so it's impossible to be productive on this network? [19:14] MinceR/fn aha, so it's impossible to be productive on this network? [19:15] immibis I made no such claim. you are acting like a leftist [19:15] immibis/fn I made no such claim. you are acting like a leftist [19:15] techrights-bot 3 mins ago: "FYI, Amazon was never profitable until #AWS so yeah, Amazon's success comes from AWS, i.e. its cloud business alone has more business than #IBM , sure of course it does. It started in 2006. What do you expect when you have a 10-year headstart." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1baWJAyw#replies [19:15] techrights-bot/fn 3 mins ago: "FYI, Amazon was never profitable until #AWS so yeah, Amazon's success comes from AWS, i.e. its cloud business alone has more business than #IBM , sure of course it does. It started in 2006. What do you expect when you have a 10-year headstart." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1baWJAyw#replies [19:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Interesting article on IBMs worth and its future - post regarding IBM layoffs [19:15] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.thelayoff.com | Interesting article on IBMs worth and its future - post regarding IBM layoffs [19:15] MinceR you implied it [19:15] MinceR/fn you implied it [19:15] schestowitz immibis: they also lost many users by moving [19:15] schestowitz/fn immibis: they also lost many users by moving [19:16] schestowitz not everyone moved with their impulsive 'leaders' [19:16] schestowitz/fn not everyone moved with their impulsive 'leaders' [19:16] schestowitz which iirc is why freenode decided to stop the migrations or to offer locals the choice to stay on the channels in freenode [19:16] schestowitz/fn which iirc is why freenode decided to stop the migrations or to offer locals the choice to stay on the channels in freenode [19:16] schestowitz shall they wish [19:16] schestowitz/fn shall they wish [19:16] immibis I am seeing far more people talking productively on L-network than on freenode [19:16] immibis/fn I am seeing far more people talking productively on L-network than on freenode [19:16] schestowitz fine, good for them [19:16] schestowitz/fn fine, good for them [19:17] techrights-bot #IBM / #RedHat / #Fedora Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151903 #GNU #Linux [19:17] techrights-bot/fn #IBM / #RedHat / #Fedora Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151903 #GNU #Linux [19:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines [19:17] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines [19:18] psydroid I thought free and open source software were about writing code and only talking on "as needed" basis [19:18] psydroid/fn I thought free and open source software were about writing code and only talking on "as needed" basis [19:18] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 19.96 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 47.90 swarm size (avg): 237.42 [19:18] techrights-ipfs/fn IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 19.96 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 47.90 swarm size (avg): 237.42 [19:20] schestowitz what it boils down to isn't number of lines of chat [19:20] schestowitz/fn what it boils down to isn't number of lines of chat [19:20] schestowitz last night this channel was chaos [19:20] schestowitz/fn last night this channel was chaos [19:21] schestowitz esp. because we had a bridge to LC [19:21] schestowitz/fn esp. because we had a bridge to LC [19:21] schestowitz with a certain troll eager to add to the chaos [19:21] schestowitz/fn with a certain troll eager to add to the chaos [19:21] schestowitz that's now "productive" [19:21] schestowitz/fn that's now "productive" [19:21] schestowitz I'd rather have a 'dead' channel than that awful s/n ratio [19:21] schestowitz/fn I'd rather have a 'dead' channel than that awful s/n ratio [19:21] XRevan86 That "certain troll" only managed to get a few sentences out. [19:21] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] That "certain troll" only managed to get a few sentences out. [19:21] alextee[m] oh is this on libera chat now? [19:21] alextee[m]/fn oh is this on libera chat now? [19:21] schestowitz in fact, I ignored the channel for 2-3 hours before catching up with it because I wanted to find and read news, not argue with people looking for IRC fights [19:21] schestowitz/fn in fact, I ignored the channel for 2-3 hours before catching up with it because I wanted to find and read news, not argue with people looking for IRC fights [19:22] XRevan86 alextee[m]: "Yes but not yet." [19:22] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] alextee[m]: "Yes but not yet." [19:22] schestowitz XRevan86: is this bridge still up? [19:22] schestowitz/fn XRevan86: is this bridge still up? [19:22] immibis psydroid: it's also about forking and going with the strongest fork and not being afraid to abandon obsolete ones [19:22] immibis/fn psydroid: it's also about forking and going with the strongest fork and not being afraid to abandon obsolete ones [19:22] schestowitz and that other network just quiet? [19:22] schestowitz/fn and that other network just quiet? [19:22] XRevan86 schestowitz: No, it's not connected to there. [19:22] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: No, it's not connected to there. [19:22] immibis i thought the bridge there was removed yesterday because an undesirable was using it [19:22] schestowitz anyone saying anything there? [19:22] immibis/fn i thought the bridge there was removed yesterday because an undesirable was using it [19:22] schestowitz/fn anyone saying anything there? [19:22] immibis if you want to find out why don't you just join it? [19:22] immibis/fn if you want to find out why don't you just join it? [19:22] alextee[m] i just typed "test" [19:22] alextee[m]/fn i just typed "test" [19:22] XRevan86 I'm not in there, no idea. [19:22] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] I'm not in there, no idea. [19:23] schestowitz how many people were online there? It's clearly not ours [19:23] schestowitz/fn how many people were online there? It's clearly not ours [19:23] schestowitz misappropriated [19:23] schestowitz/fn misappropriated [19:23] alextee[m] 26 people [19:23] alextee[m]/fn 26 people [19:23] alextee[m] topic is: TechRights.org | Unofficial channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org [19:23] alextee[m]/fn topic is: TechRights.org | Unofficial channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org [19:23] schestowitz are they saying any7thing? [19:23] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:23] schestowitz/fn are they saying any7thing? [19:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Welcome to Techrights [19:23] TechrightsBot-tr/fn techrights.org | Welcome to Techrights [19:23] XRevan86 schestowitz: It is ours, but superkuh de-opped, so [19:23] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: It is ours, but superkuh de-opped, so [19:23] psydroid immibis, I hope the strongest fork will make its developers feel liberated and move to the most liberated chat network [19:23] psydroid/fn immibis, I hope the strongest fork will make its developers feel liberated and move to the most liberated chat network [19:23] *asusbox has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:23] MinceR so it "was" "ours" [19:23] MinceR/fn so it "was" "ours" [19:24] XRevan86 so now it's no one's [19:24] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] so now it's no one's [19:24] MinceR i can't wait to hear about how "strong" ibm and microsoft are [19:24] MinceR/fn i can't wait to hear about how "strong" ibm and microsoft are [19:24] schestowitz well, a bridge to it would just encourage more people to go to the unofficial place [19:24] schestowitz/fn well, a bridge to it would just encourage more people to go to the unofficial place [19:24] schestowitz I just worried it might become an anti-TR forums [19:24] schestowitz/fn I just worried it might become an anti-TR forums [19:24] psydroid IBM and Microsoft are most liberated of all companies out there [19:24] psydroid/fn IBM and Microsoft are most liberated of all companies out there [19:24] schestowitz manned with people looking to badmouth us [19:24] schestowitz/fn manned with people looking to badmouth us [19:25] MinceR should have squatted it earlier to prevent that [19:25] MinceR/fn should have squatted it earlier to prevent that [19:25] XRevan86 MinceR: superkuh did [19:25] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: superkuh did [19:25] MinceR and even then, opers serving ibm could just as easily undo it [19:25] MinceR/fn and even then, opers serving ibm could just as easily undo it [19:25] immibis have you actually tried asking libera staff since they are helping channels migrate? [19:25] immibis/fn have you actually tried asking libera staff since they are helping channels migrate? [19:25] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [19:25] MinceR 03 202418 [Libera] -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.libera.chat)- #techrights is not registered. [19:25] MinceR/fn 03 202418 [Libera] -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.libera.chat)- #techrights is not registered. [19:25] XRevan86 MinceR: There's no op that can claim it. [19:25] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: There's no op that can claim it. [19:25] MinceR this is not migration, merely opening an extra channel [19:25] MinceR/fn this is not migration, merely opening an extra channel [19:25] *asusbox has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [19:25] MinceR/fn yeah, they should have while they still could [19:25] MinceR yeah, they should have while they still could [19:25] immibis well you don't have to tell them that [19:25] immibis/fn well you don't have to tell them that [19:26] schestowitz if it's idle for the most part, no harm done, I guess [19:26] schestowitz/fn if it's idle for the most part, no harm done, I guess [19:26] alextee[m] libera staff would happily give you the channel I think if you ask [19:26] alextee[m]/fn libera staff would happily give you the channel I think if you ask [19:26] schestowitz it's now where we are [19:26] schestowitz/fn it's now where we are [19:26] alextee[m] you just need to prove it's you [19:26] alextee[m]/fn you just need to prove it's you [19:26] schestowitz we are self-hosted and more [19:26] schestowitz/fn we are self-hosted and more [19:26] alextee[m] I had to set some TXT record on my domain [19:26] alextee[m]/fn I had to set some TXT record on my domain [19:26] superkuh You just have to send a ticket to support@libera.chat with who you are, what channel you want, the story, etc. [19:26] tr-bridge [superkuh/tr] You just have to send a ticket to support@libera.chat with who you are, what channel you want, the story, etc. [19:26] superkuh Get a ticket number, wait a day or two. [19:26] tr-bridge [superkuh/tr] Get a ticket number, wait a day or two. [19:26] superkuh Or ask in #libera. [19:26] alextee[m] yeah [19:26] tr-bridge [superkuh/tr] Or ask in #libera. [19:26] alextee[m]/fn yeah [19:27] schestowitz but we don't want a channel in another network [19:27] schestowitz/fn but we don't want a channel in another network [19:27] XRevan86 MinceR: Are ye registered there? [19:27] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: Are ye registered there? [19:27] schestowitz registering it would send the wrong message [19:27] schestowitz/fn registering it would send the wrong message [19:27] superkuh K. [19:27] MinceR XRevan86: i do have a registered nick over there but i'm not on #techrights [19:27] tr-bridge [superkuh/tr] K. [19:27] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] XRevan86: i do have a registered nick over there but i'm not on #techrights [19:28] XRevan86 schestowitz: I think it can be a good additional entry point. [19:28] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: I think it can be a good additional entry point. [19:28] MinceR if we don't have a channel in another network, then we shouldn't bridge to that network [19:28] MinceR/fn if we don't have a channel in another network, then we shouldn't bridge to that network [19:28] schestowitz XRevan86: can you set a one-way bridge? [19:28] schestowitz/fn XRevan86: can you set a one-way bridge? [19:28] MinceR what's that good for? [19:28] MinceR/fn what's that good for? [19:28] schestowitz so as to discourage more people going there? [19:28] schestowitz/fn so as to discourage more people going there? [19:28] MinceR making easier for mjg to dig up shit to post on twatter? [19:28] MinceR/fn making easier for mjg to dig up shit to post on twatter? [19:28] schestowitz MinceR: the logs are public [19:28] schestowitz/fn MinceR: the logs are public [19:28] schestowitz no advantage for him [19:28] schestowitz/fn no advantage for him [19:28] MinceR they are, but they are published with a delay [19:28] MinceR/fn they are, but they are published with a delay [19:28] schestowitz except if he wants to spew in [19:28] schestowitz/fn except if he wants to spew in [19:29] MinceR and you can see how insistent he was on getting them realtime [19:29] MinceR/fn and you can see how insistent he was on getting them realtime [19:29] schestowitz the delay doesn't matter much [19:29] schestowitz/fn the delay doesn't matter much [19:29] schestowitz 0-24-hour delay [19:29] schestowitz/fn 0-24-hour delay [19:29] XRevan86 schestowitz: What message would that send? That ye really-really dislike that network? [19:29] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: What message would that send? That ye really-really dislike that network? [19:29] MinceR apparently it does matter to the armonk mafia and to the redmond mafia [19:29] MinceR/fn apparently it does matter to the armonk mafia and to the redmond mafia [19:29] schestowitz XRevan86: no, that it's not the place that's official [19:29] schestowitz/fn XRevan86: no, that it's not the place that's official [19:29] psydroid that's actually a good idea [19:29] psydroid/fn that's actually a good idea [19:29] schestowitz and can help monitor in case they use that channel to try to scheme against us [19:29] schestowitz/fn and can help monitor in case they use that channel to try to scheme against us [19:30] XRevan86 schestowitz: The topic can advertise the official IRC server. [19:30] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: The topic can advertise the official IRC server. [19:30] psydroid it would be just a relay of what is happening here [19:30] psydroid/fn it would be just a relay of what is happening here [19:30] schestowitz we don't need to respond to them if they say something [19:30] schestowitz/fn we don't need to respond to them if they say something [19:30] XRevan86 And the bots pushing messages through the bridge gives that message also. [19:30] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] And the bots pushing messages through the bridge gives that message also. [19:30] schestowitz psydroid: that's why I asked about one-way bridge [19:30] schestowitz/fn psydroid: that's why I asked about one-way bridge [19:30] schestowitz if that is an option in whatever XRevan86 uses for that [19:30] schestowitz/fn if that is an option in whatever XRevan86 uses for that [19:32] *asusbox (~rianne@haii6za73zabc.irc) has joined #techrights [19:32] *asusbox (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [19:32] *rianne (~rianne@haii6za73zabc.irc) has joined #techrights [19:32] *rianne (~rianne@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:f4bf:2fd3:cddc:7fb5) has joined #techrights [19:32] techrights-bot "What does IBM have? Z, DB2, cloud paks??? They are also screwing #Redhat dude. #IBM is finished 10 years back. Nothing can change it. If you are at IBM, it means you are low skilled and can't find any jobs elsewhere." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1baWJAyw#replies [19:32] techrights-bot/fn "What does IBM have? Z, DB2, cloud paks??? They are also screwing #Redhat dude. #IBM is finished 10 years back. Nothing can change it. If you are at IBM, it means you are low skilled and can't find any jobs elsewhere." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1baWJAyw#replies [19:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Interesting article on IBMs worth and its future - post regarding IBM layoffs [19:32] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.thelayoff.com | Interesting article on IBMs worth and its future - post regarding IBM layoffs [19:33] XRevan86 It is possible [19:33] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] It is possible [19:33] schestowitz let's try :-) [19:33] schestowitz/fn let's try :-) [19:33] schestowitz hopefully little will come in [19:33] schestowitz/fn hopefully little will come in [19:33] schestowitz a two-way bridge helps fork the efforts [19:33] schestowitz/fn a two-way bridge helps fork the efforts [19:34] MinceR the ibm/m$ drones will probably crapflood us via the bridge [19:34] MinceR/fn the ibm/m$ drones will probably crapflood us via the bridge [19:34] schestowitz a one-way bridge would help keep everything in one place+self-hosted [19:34] schestowitz/fn a one-way bridge would help keep everything in one place+self-hosted [19:34] schestowitz MinceR: if they try, we can stop that [19:34] schestowitz/fn MinceR: if they try, we can stop that [19:34] schestowitz it would be a low blow is they used the other network just to spew hate [19:34] schestowitz/fn it would be a low blow is they used the other network just to spew hate [19:34] MinceR you should be used to low blows from them by now [19:34] MinceR/fn you should be used to low blows from them by now [19:34] schestowitz in a channel they know to be a 'knockoff' [19:34] schestowitz/fn in a channel they know to be a 'knockoff' [19:35] MinceR DDoSing the website is not a low blow? [19:35] MinceR/fn DDoSing the website is not a low blow? [19:35] schestowitz we have some programs in place [19:35] schestowitz/fn we have some programs in place [19:35] MinceR trying to bribe your employer is not a low blow? [19:35] MinceR/fn trying to bribe your employer is not a low blow? [19:36] MinceR these people realized ages ago that they can't compete with anything made by people who know what they're doing [19:36] MinceR/fn these people realized ages ago that they can't compete with anything made by people who know what they're doing [19:36] MinceR that's why we have shit like UEFI [19:36] MinceR/fn that's why we have shit like UEFI [19:36] MinceR and the microsoft tax [19:36] MinceR/fn and the microsoft tax [19:36] MinceR and lots of corruption [19:36] MinceR/fn and lots of corruption [19:36] *bridge has quit (connection closed) [19:36] *tr-bridge has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [19:36] *bridge (~bridge@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #techrights [19:36] *irc.techrights.org gives channel operator status to bridge [19:37] *tr-bridge (~tr-bridge@meowr.ru) has joined #techrights [19:37] techrights-bot #OBSStudio 27.0 Released with Wayland Support. How to Install via Ubuntu PPA http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151837#comment-29857 [19:37] techrights-bot/fn #OBSStudio 27.0 Released with Wayland Support. How to Install via Ubuntu PPA http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151837#comment-29857 [19:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OBS Studio 27.0 Released With Undo/Redo, Wayland Support | Tux Machines [19:37] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | OBS Studio 27.0 Released With Undo/Redo, Wayland Support | Tux Machines [19:37] XRevan86 IgnoreMessages="^." should do the trick then. [19:37] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] IgnoreMessages="^." should do the trick then. [19:37] schestowitz XRevan86 thanks [19:37] schestowitz/fn XRevan86 thanks [19:39] techrights-bot #Blender3d 2.93 LTS Released with a Lot of Major Changes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151882#comment-29858 [19:39] techrights-bot/fn #Blender3d 2.93 LTS Released with a Lot of Major Changes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151882#comment-29858 [19:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Blender 2.93 LTS Released With Big Changes | Tux Machines [19:39] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | Blender 2.93 LTS Released With Big Changes | Tux Machines [19:40] MinceR https://img.pr0gramm.com/2021/05/05/1dc437aedcc06338.jpg [19:40] MinceR/fn https://img.pr0gramm.com/2021/05/05/1dc437aedcc06338.jpg [19:40] XRevan86 MinceR: I thought this topic is over. [19:40] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: I thought this topic is over. [19:41] immibis thank you for setting it up so libera can spy on freenode to make sure you're not scheming against us. our ex-staffer overlords thank you. [19:41] immibis/fn thank you for setting it up so libera can spy on freenode to make sure you're not scheming against us. our ex-staffer overlords thank you. [19:42] XRevan86 Next thing they'll find out about that the logs are publicly available. [19:42] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] Next thing they'll find out about that the logs are publicly available. [19:42] schestowitz I think you got it the other way around, MinceR [19:42] schestowitz/fn I think you got it the other way around, MinceR [19:43] schestowitz oops, immibis I meant [19:43] schestowitz/fn oops, immibis I meant [19:43] MinceR it's a bad idea either way [19:43] MinceR/fn it's a bad idea either way [19:43] schestowitz immibis: we can see if they misuse the channel there [19:43] schestowitz/fn immibis: we can see if they misuse the channel there [19:43] immibis you can't [19:43] immibis/fn you can't [19:43] XRevan86 schestowitz: How? [19:43] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: How? [19:43] schestowitz they cannot see us, except in logs or by connecting to irc.techrights.org [19:43] schestowitz/fn they cannot see us, except in logs or by connecting to irc.techrights.org [19:43] immibis they can see if you misuse this one [19:43] immibis/fn they can see if you misuse this one [19:43] MinceR garrett will, you can be sure of that [19:43] MinceR/fn garrett will, you can be sure of that [19:43] XRevan86 oh [19:43] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] oh [19:44] schestowitz wait, maybe it was set up in reverse? [19:44] schestowitz/fn wait, maybe it was set up in reverse? [19:44] XRevan86 schestowitz: I am confused. Which they do ye want it to be mute? [19:44] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: I am confused. Which they do ye want it to be mute? [19:44] XRevan86 * which way [19:44] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] * which way [19:44] schestowitz I meant, we see theirs [19:44] schestowitz/fn I meant, we see theirs [19:44] MinceR lol [19:44] MinceR/fn lol [19:44] schestowitz they can only read logs in HTML [19:44] schestowitz/fn they can only read logs in HTML [19:44] *XRevan86 is trying to understand why [19:44] *tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] is trying to understand why [19:44] XRevan86 I thought ye didn't want unmoderated stuff to come *from* there [19:44] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] I thought ye didn't want unmoderated stuff to come *from* there [19:45] schestowitz assuming they'd abuse it [19:45] schestowitz/fn assuming they'd abuse it [19:45] *Nonagon (~nonagon@static.249.156.21.65.clients.your-server.de) has joined #techrights [19:45] schestowitz/fn see, if they cannot receive replies from here, then no point abusing [19:45] schestowitz see, if they cannot receive replies from here, then no point abusing [19:45] schestowitz it's like shooting in the dark [19:45] schestowitz/fn it's like shooting in the dark [19:46] Nonagon and why would you care here, what they say there, if they can't see what you say here? [19:46] Nonagon/fn and why would you care here, what they say there, if they can't see what you say here? [19:46] schestowitz the idea is to keep the presence in one place, not spread out [19:46] schestowitz/fn the idea is to keep the presence in one place, not spread out [19:46] Nonagon they're not going to "scheme against you" [19:46] Nonagon/fn they're not going to "scheme against you" [19:46] schestowitz and I doubt everyone would use our self-hosted network [19:46] schestowitz/fn and I doubt everyone would use our self-hosted network [19:46] schestowitz Nonagon: no, misrepresentation is the issue [19:46] schestowitz/fn Nonagon: no, misrepresentation is the issue [19:46] *tr-bridge has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [19:46] *bridge has quit (connection closed) [19:47] schestowitz like bringing people in to the wrong place [19:47] *bridge (~bridge@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #techrights [19:47] *irc.techrights.org gives channel operator status to bridge [19:47] schestowitz and then feeding them abusive things [19:47] XRevan86 That's a bad idea, I think it's better to leave them alone then. [19:47] *tr-bridge (~tr-bridge@meowr.ru) has joined #techrights [19:47] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] That's a bad idea, I think it's better to leave them alone then. [19:47] schestowitz and then somehow can say, "LOOK at those nasty "techrights" people..." [19:47] schestowitz/fn and then somehow can say, "LOOK at those nasty "techrights" people..." [19:47] schestowitz XRevan86: which is sort of what we do [19:47] schestowitz/fn XRevan86: which is sort of what we do [19:47] schestowitz we don't speak back to them [19:47] schestowitz/fn we don't speak back to them [19:48] schestowitz at the same time, if they do harmful chats to tarnish our name, that can be sort of monitored [19:48] schestowitz/fn at the same time, if they do harmful chats to tarnish our name, that can be sort of monitored [19:48] MinceR that's futile enough [19:48] MinceR/fn that's futile enough [19:48] schestowitz even reported if it becomes very obviously nefarious [19:48] schestowitz/fn even reported if it becomes very obviously nefarious [19:48] schestowitz MinceR: maybe so... [19:48] schestowitz/fn MinceR: maybe so... [19:49] MinceR they could do harmful chats on twatter, shitcord [19:49] MinceR/fn they could do harmful chats on twatter, shitcord [19:49] schestowitz they can [19:49] schestowitz/fn they can [19:49] MinceR even services hosted by dehomag or microshit [19:49] MinceR/fn even services hosted by dehomag or microshit [19:49] schestowitz I watch that too [19:49] schestowitz/fn I watch that too [19:49] schestowitz in twitter [19:49] schestowitz/fn in twitter [19:49] schestowitz that's how I catch them telling lies [19:49] schestowitz/fn that's how I catch them telling lies [19:49] schestowitz like insinuating homophobia [19:49] schestowitz/fn like insinuating homophobia [19:49] MinceR they can create more channels [19:49] MinceR/fn they can create more channels [19:49] schestowitz and then we can respond to that [19:49] schestowitz/fn and then we can respond to that [19:49] MinceR they can do so on oftc, too [19:49] MinceR/fn they can do so on oftc, too [19:49] schestowitz MinceR: yes, but afaik on oftc people did not join such a channel [19:49] schestowitz/fn MinceR: yes, but afaik on oftc people did not join such a channel [19:50] schestowitz [19:49] even services hosted by dehomag or microshit [19:50] schestowitz/fn [19:49] even services hosted by dehomag or microshit [19:50] MinceR how do you know? [19:50] MinceR/fn how do you know? [19:50] schestowitz EPO has spies who spy on Techrights [19:50] schestowitz/fn EPO has spies who spy on Techrights [19:50] schestowitz/fn and some leaks that to me [19:50] schestowitz and some leaks that to me [19:50] schestowitz and it helps our strategy [19:50] schestowitz/fn and it helps our strategy [19:50] XRevan86 My idea was to have another entry point that is welcoming, considering that many new to IRC people will now join Libera as a first network. [19:50] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] My idea was to have another entry point that is welcoming, considering that many new to IRC people will now join Libera as a first network. [19:50] Nonagon the bridge left the libera room [19:50] Nonagon/fn the bridge left the libera room [19:50] schestowitz like knowing what puff pieces or slant they have planned [19:50] schestowitz/fn like knowing what puff pieces or slant they have planned [19:51] XRevan86 Nonagon: The bridge cannot ignore messages from two places into one place. [19:51] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] Nonagon: The bridge cannot ignore messages from two places into one place. [19:51] Nonagon how do you mean? [19:51] Nonagon/fn how do you mean? [19:51] schestowitz XRevan86 and be welcomed by people who don't represent us [19:51] schestowitz/fn XRevan86 and be welcomed by people who don't represent us [19:51] schestowitz and can put people off [19:51] schestowitz/fn and can put people off [19:51] XRevan86 Nonagon: I misunderstood what he wants. And what he wants I cannot implement. [19:51] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] Nonagon: I misunderstood what he wants. And what he wants I cannot implement. [19:52] Nonagon Ah, I see [19:52] Nonagon/fn Ah, I see [19:52] Nonagon what is tr-bridge coded in? [19:52] Nonagon/fn what is tr-bridge coded in? [19:52] XRevan86 Nonagon: It's matterbridge, in Go. [19:52] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] Nonagon: It's matterbridge, in Go. [19:52] Nonagon ah, nice [19:52] Nonagon/fn ah, nice [19:52] superkuh s/in Go/in Googlang/. [19:52] tr-bridge [superkuh/tr] s/in Go/in Googlang/. [19:53] MinceR s/in Go/in LOL NO GENERICS/ [19:53] MinceR/fn s/in Go/in LOL NO GENERICS/ [19:53] XRevan86 schestowitz: If it were a fully connected room, then people would've been welcomed by *us*. [19:53] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: If it were a fully connected room, then people would've been welcomed by *us*. [19:53] schestowitz OK, let's try a two-way bridge [19:53] schestowitz/fn OK, let's try a two-way bridge [19:53] schestowitz and hope it won't be too awful [19:53] schestowitz/fn and hope it won't be too awful [19:53] schestowitz because afaik you stopped it some time last night [19:53] schestowitz/fn because afaik you stopped it some time last night [19:53] *asusbox2 (~rianne@haii6za73zabc.irc) has joined #techrights [19:53] XRevan86 schestowitz: Right, but we need something first. [19:53] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: Right, but we need something first. [19:54] schestowitz go ahead... ... [19:54] schestowitz/fn go ahead... ... [19:54] *asusbox2 (~rianne@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:f4bf:2fd3:cddc:7fb5) has joined #techrights [19:54] Nonagon schestowitz: two way bridge where? [19:54] Nonagon/fn schestowitz: two way bridge where? [19:54] *asusbox has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:54] XRevan86 schestowitz: I am hoping to get Ariadne to help us to get the room registered, hopefully on MincR. [19:54] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: I am hoping to get Ariadne to help us to get the room registered, hopefully on MincR. [19:54] XRevan86 * MinceR [19:54] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] * MinceR [19:55] XRevan86 so that if there are bad actors there (as in any other place), there should be control by the ops [19:55] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] so that if there are bad actors there (as in any other place), there should be control by the ops [19:55] schestowitz if someone rogue tried to register it, we can challenge that later [19:55] schestowitz/fn if someone rogue tried to register it, we can challenge that later [19:56] XRevan86 schestowitz: Yesterday MinceR asked to disconnect it when a certain mjg59 tried using it. [19:56] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: Yesterday MinceR asked to disconnect it when a certain mjg59 tried using it. [19:56] XRevan86 so that's the situation, it needs an op [19:56] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] so that's the situation, it needs an op [19:56] MinceR also when it turned out that it's bridging these channels to a channel where nobody has op [19:56] MinceR/fn also when it turned out that it's bridging these channels to a channel where nobody has op [19:56] *asusbox has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [19:57] MinceR and also wasn't registered [19:57] MinceR/fn and also wasn't registered [19:57] XRevan86 MinceR: Not "also", that's what I mean. [19:57] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: Not "also", that's what I mean. [19:57] schestowitz/fn is that troll still there? [19:57] schestowitz is that troll still there? [19:58] Nonagon schestowitz: which? [19:58] Nonagon/fn schestowitz: which? [19:58] XRevan86 schestowitz: He is here and he will definitely know. [19:58] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: He is here and he will definitely know. [19:58] schestowitz there are several? I saw one. [19:58] schestowitz/fn there are several? I saw one. [19:58] MinceR he's here [19:58] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] he's here [19:58] schestowitz so just different name [19:58] schestowitz/fn so just different name [19:58] Nonagon ah [19:58] Nonagon/fn ah [19:58] schestowitz letting one troll cause this much mess is helping the troll's ego [19:58] schestowitz/fn letting one troll cause this much mess is helping the troll's ego [19:59] MinceR another reason to be more careful [19:59] MinceR/fn another reason to be more careful ● Jun 03 [20:01] techrights-bot This dad built an adaptive USB keyboard for his son and other kids with muscular conditions | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/06/03/this-dad-built-an-adaptive-usb-keyboard-for-his-son-and-other-kids-with-muscular-conditions/ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking [20:01] techrights-bot/fn This dad built an adaptive USB keyboard for his son and other kids with muscular conditions | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/06/03/this-dad-built-an-adaptive-usb-keyboard-for-his-son-and-other-kids-with-muscular-conditions/ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking [20:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | This dad built an adaptive USB keyboard for his son and other kids with muscular conditions | Arduino Blog [20:01] TechrightsBot-tr/fn blog.arduino.cc | This dad built an adaptive USB keyboard for his son and other kids with muscular conditions | Arduino Blog [20:04] schestowitz MinceR: but if we have no bridge because of just one determined troll, then the troll feels emboldened [20:04] schestowitz/fn MinceR: but if we have no bridge because of just one determined troll, then the troll feels emboldened [20:04] XRevan86 MinceR: Would ye agree to be "the founder" there? [20:04] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: Would ye agree to be "the founder" there? [20:04] schestowitz I trust him to. [20:04] schestowitz/fn I trust him to. [20:04] MinceR if i have to be [20:04] MinceR/fn if i have to be [20:04] MinceR i'd rather not [20:04] MinceR/fn i'd rather not [20:04] schestowitz register, mute the culprit [20:04] schestowitz/fn register, mute the culprit [20:05] XRevan86 MinceR: schestowitz doesn't want to register an account there [20:05] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: schestowitz doesn't want to register an account there [20:05] MinceR ok [20:05] MinceR/fn ok [20:07] *asusbox (~rianne@haii6za73zabc.irc) has joined #techrights [20:08] *asusbox (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [20:08] *asusbox2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:09] *asusbox2 has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [20:11] schestowitz MinceR: thanks! [20:11] schestowitz/fn MinceR: thanks! [20:13] techrights-bot Today in a press release the #LinuxFoundation celebrates an OS that is now #Linux https://linuxfoundation.org/en/press-release/the-zephyr-project-celebrates-5th-anniversary-with-new-members-and-inaugural-zephyr-developer-summit-on-june-8-10/ [20:13] techrights-bot/fn Today in a press release the #LinuxFoundation celebrates an OS that is now #Linux https://linuxfoundation.org/en/press-release/the-zephyr-project-celebrates-5th-anniversary-with-new-members-and-inaugural-zephyr-developer-summit-on-june-8-10/ [20:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxfoundation.org | The Zephyr Project Celebrates 5th Anniversary with new members and inaugural Zephyr Developer Summit on June 8-10 - Linux Foundation [20:13] TechrightsBot-tr/fn linuxfoundation.org | The Zephyr Project Celebrates 5th Anniversary with new members and inaugural Zephyr Developer Summit on June 8-10 - Linux Foundation [20:14] techrights-bot #LibreOffice #GTK4 Port: MenuButtons http://caolanm.blogspot.com/2021/06/libreoffice-gtk4-port-menubuttons.html [20:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-caolanm.blogspot.com | Caoln McNamara: LibreOffice GTK4 Port: MenuButtons [20:14] techrights-bot/fn #LibreOffice #GTK4 Port: MenuButtons http://caolanm.blogspot.com/2021/06/libreoffice-gtk4-port-menubuttons.html [20:14] TechrightsBot-tr/fn caolanm.blogspot.com | Caoln McNamara: LibreOffice GTK4 Port: MenuButtons [20:19] techrights-bot Hands-on: The #System76 "Launch" keyboard! (Full Review) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151125#comment-29860 [20:19] techrights-bot/fn Hands-on: The #System76 "Launch" keyboard! (Full Review) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151125#comment-29860 [20:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | System76 Launches The Launch Configurable Keyboard | Tux Machines [20:19] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | System76 Launches The Launch Configurable Keyboard | Tux Machines [20:20] techrights-bot #Slimbook #ONE Linux Mini PC is Now Powered by a High-Performance AMD Chip http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151832#comment-29861 [20:20] techrights-bot/fn #Slimbook #ONE Linux Mini PC is Now Powered by a High-Performance AMD Chip http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151832#comment-29861 [20:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AMD Ryzen Ubuntu User? Check Out This New App from Slimbook | Tux Machines [20:20] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | AMD Ryzen Ubuntu User? Check Out This New App from Slimbook | Tux Machines [20:25] *phobos_anomaly has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [20:26] *phobos_anomaly (~phobos@unaffiliated/phobos-anomaly/x-6744724) has joined #techrights [20:31] techrights-bot #Nate Graham: #KDE 2021 roadmap mid-year update http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151905 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:31] techrights-bot/fn #Nate Graham: #KDE 2021 roadmap mid-year update http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151905 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Nate Graham: KDE 2021 roadmap mid-year update | Tux Machines [20:31] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | Nate Graham: KDE 2021 roadmap mid-year update | Tux Machines [20:32] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:32] *asusbox has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:32] techrights-bot "It seems like a really nice set of features there as they said "we want as many people to be able to enjoy Sunblaze as possible" which is why they also support Linux with it too!" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/loved-celeste-youre-going-to-want-to-play-brain-twisting-precision-platformer-sunblaze [20:32] techrights-bot/fn "It seems like a really nice set of features there as they said "we want as many people to be able to enjoy Sunblaze as possible" which is why they also support Linux with it too!" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/loved-celeste-youre-going-to-want-to-play-brain-twisting-precision-platformer-sunblaze [20:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Loved Celeste? You're going to want to play brain-twisting precision platformer Sunblaze | GamingOnLinux [20:32] TechrightsBot-tr/fn Loved Celeste? You're going to want to play brain-twisting precision platformer Sunblaze | GamingOnLinux [20:33] *phobos_anomaly has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [20:34] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [20:34] *asusbox has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [20:35] *phobos_anomaly (~phobos@unaffiliated/phobos-anomaly/x-6744724) has joined #techrights [20:38] techrights-bot Still promoting the ruinous illusion that Signal is impenetrable https://www.xda-developers.com/signal/ [20:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.xda-developers.com | What is Signal and How to Use it: Everything you need to know about the secure IM service [20:38] techrights-bot/fn Still promoting the ruinous illusion that Signal is impenetrable https://www.xda-developers.com/signal/ [20:38] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.xda-developers.com | What is Signal and How to Use it: Everything you need to know about the secure IM service [20:39] techrights-bot #SAML Implementation Vulnerability Impacting Some Akamai Services - The Akamai Blog https://blogs.akamai.com/2021/06/saml-implementation-vulnerability-impacting-some-akamai-services.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheAkamaiBlog+%28The+Akamai+Blog%29 #akamai [20:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.akamai.com | SAML Implementation Vulnerability Impacting Some Akamai Services - The Akamai Blog [20:39] techrights-bot/fn #SAML Implementation Vulnerability Impacting Some Akamai Services - The Akamai Blog https://blogs.akamai.com/2021/06/saml-implementation-vulnerability-impacting-some-akamai-services.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheAkamaiBlog+%28The+Akamai+Blog%29 #akamai [20:39] TechrightsBot-tr/fn blogs.akamai.com | SAML Implementation Vulnerability Impacting Some Akamai Services - The Akamai Blog [20:41] techrights-bot #Huawei launches its Android rival with a new tablet and smartwatch https://newatlas.com/mobile-technology/huawei-harmonyos-matepad-pro-watch/ [20:41] techrights-bot/fn #Huawei launches its Android rival with a new tablet and smartwatch https://newatlas.com/mobile-technology/huawei-harmonyos-matepad-pro-watch/ [20:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-newatlas.com | Huawei launches its Android rival with a new tablet and smartwatch [20:41] TechrightsBot-tr/fn newatlas.com | Huawei launches its Android rival with a new tablet and smartwatch [20:43] techrights-bot "IBM is going to need a lot more than just RH #OpenShift and #CloudPaks to counter them. Meanwhile IBM leadership delusionally still thinks VMWare is the main competition here." #redhat #ibm https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1baWJAyw#replies [20:43] techrights-bot/fn "IBM is going to need a lot more than just RH #OpenShift and #CloudPaks to counter them. Meanwhile IBM leadership delusionally still thinks VMWare is the main competition here." #redhat #ibm https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1baWJAyw#replies [20:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Interesting article on IBMs worth and its future - post regarding IBM layoffs [20:43] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.thelayoff.com | Interesting article on IBMs worth and its future - post regarding IBM layoffs [20:44] techrights-bot More worthless buzzwords https://builtin.com/data-science/company-data-lake-questions [20:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-builtin.com | Is a Data Lake Right for Your Company? [20:44] techrights-bot/fn More worthless buzzwords https://builtin.com/data-science/company-data-lake-questions [20:44] TechrightsBot-tr/fn builtin.com | Is a Data Lake Right for Your Company? [20:45] baronhk1[m]/fn "Mozilla pointing at Matrix". Well, that would be a shame. [20:45] baronhk1[m] "Mozilla pointing at Matrix". Well, that would be a shame. [20:45] baronhk1[m] Downgrading from their self-hosted IRC to some place where people just disappear. [20:45] baronhk1[m]/fn Downgrading from their self-hosted IRC to some place where people just disappear. [20:46] techrights-bot 16 mins ago: "Oh, man. I didn't know about them. I thought #IBM is the only leader in hybrid cloud which they try to say in every meeting. "We are the only one". Then, it's really terrible for IBM, being the first one, they are still lacking at many things." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1ba7qGIT#replies [20:46] techrights-bot/fn 16 mins ago: "Oh, man. I didn't know about them. I thought #IBM is the only leader in hybrid cloud which they try to say in every meeting. "We are the only one". Then, it's really terrible for IBM, being the first one, they are still lacking at many things." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1ba7qGIT#replies [20:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Godfather of IBM and hybrid cloud has arrived - post regarding IBM layoffs [20:46] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.thelayoff.com | Godfather of IBM and hybrid cloud has arrived - post regarding IBM layoffs [20:47] techrights-bot " IBM's failure is more of a marketing failure and a presentation failure... had a more graphical environment been grafted onto 3270's (and it did exist... 3279G + GGDM... right?)... maybe history would have been different." #ibm #layoffs #braindrain https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b6fzJWY#replies [20:47] techrights-bot/fn " IBM's failure is more of a marketing failure and a presentation failure... had a more graphical environment been grafted onto 3270's (and it did exist... 3279G + GGDM... right?)... maybe history would have been different." #ibm #layoffs #braindrain https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b6fzJWY#replies [20:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | The grass is not greener anywhere? - post regarding IBM layoffs [20:47] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.thelayoff.com | The grass is not greener anywhere? - post regarding IBM layoffs [20:47] techrights-bot " #ibm is not a career company anymore, no one who's young actually wants to work here" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bafaIYZ#replies [20:47] techrights-bot/fn " #ibm is not a career company anymore, no one who's young actually wants to work here" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bafaIYZ#replies [20:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | why is ibm he-l bent on returning to office - post regarding IBM layoffs [20:47] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.thelayoff.com | why is ibm he-l bent on returning to office - post regarding IBM layoffs [20:47] baronhk1[m] It's pointless to try this because you can be back up and running in about 5-6 minutes. [20:47] baronhk1[m]/fn It's pointless to try this because you can be back up and running in about 5-6 minutes. [20:47] schestowitz baronhk1[m]: "bad actors..." [20:47] schestowitz/fn baronhk1[m]: "bad actors..." [20:47] immibis baronhk1[m]: you're on matrix right now [20:47] immibis/fn baronhk1[m]: you're on matrix right now [20:48] schestowitz immibis: after multiple bans iirc [20:48] schestowitz/fn immibis: after multiple bans iirc [20:49] baronhk1[m] I know exactly what's happening too. [20:49] baronhk1[m]/fn I know exactly what's happening too. [20:49] baronhk1[m] The troll is screenshotting things he (did I use the right pronoun?) doesn't like and filing reports. [20:49] baronhk1[m]/fn The troll is screenshotting things he (did I use the right pronoun?) doesn't like and filing reports. [20:49] immibis why didn't you defend yourself with a gun? [20:49] immibis/fn why didn't you defend yourself with a gun? [20:50] phobos_anomaly why didn't they do the liberal thing and call everyone racists or sexists? [20:50] phobos_anomaly/fn why didn't they do the liberal thing and call everyone racists or sexists? [20:50] MinceR why don't you use IRC without mixing matrix into it? [20:50] MinceR/fn why don't you use IRC without mixing matrix into it? [20:50] baronhk1[m] One of the mods on Matrix said in 2019 that he hopes they shut down Matrix.org at some point to get rid of the centralization. [20:50] baronhk1[m]/fn One of the mods on Matrix said in 2019 that he hopes they shut down Matrix.org at some point to get rid of the centralization. [20:51] baronhk1[m]/fn Plenty more numbers where "1" came from. [20:51] baronhk1[m] Plenty more numbers where "1" came from. [20:51] MinceR i guess they realized that they like the centralization [20:51] MinceR/fn i guess they realized that they like the centralization [20:51] MinceR baronhk1[m]: a lot less interference if you don't let them mess with you, though [20:51] MinceR/fn baronhk1[m]: a lot less interference if you don't let them mess with you, though [20:51] immibis why don't you just use a different server? [20:51] immibis/fn why don't you just use a different server? [20:51] immibis or actually use IRC? [20:51] immibis/fn or actually use IRC? [20:51] phobos_anomaly MinceR: You are right about umbrella and how quiet it is... kinda nice... makes some networks look like riots [20:51] phobos_anomaly/fn MinceR: You are right about umbrella and how quiet it is... kinda nice... makes some networks look like riots [20:51] MinceR :> [20:52] MinceR/fn :> [20:52] baronhk1[m] Well, not all of them have bridges, and Matrix.org doesn't federate properly. [20:52] baronhk1[m]/fn Well, not all of them have bridges, and Matrix.org doesn't federate properly. [20:52] MinceR presumably not that many matrix servers have IRC gateways [20:52] MinceR/fn presumably not that many matrix servers have IRC gateways [20:52] baronhk1[m] Especially with Freenode. [20:52] baronhk1[m]/fn Especially with Freenode. [20:53] baronhk1[m] Ironic, since we're dealing with mods that are like-minded with Garrett. They should be seeing a psychiatrist. [20:53] baronhk1[m]/fn Ironic, since we're dealing with mods that are like-minded with Garrett. They should be seeing a psychiatrist. [20:53] immibis why don't you just use IRC directly so there's one less point to ban you? [20:53] immibis/fn why don't you just use IRC directly so there's one less point to ban you? [20:53] phobos_anomaly I'd rather put up with the mods like eskimo that claim to know less than nothing [20:53] phobos_anomaly/fn I'd rather put up with the mods like eskimo that claim to know less than nothing [20:53] baronhk1[m] Bridges, brought to you by folks whose bridge doesn't entirely cross the moat. [20:53] baronhk1[m]/fn Bridges, brought to you by folks whose bridge doesn't entirely cross the moat. [20:53] MinceR lol [20:53] MinceR/fn lol [20:54] MinceR "I'm telling you Teal'c, If we don't get out of this soon I'm going to lose it... Lose it, it means go crazy, nuts, insane, bonzo, no longer in possession of ones faculties, three fries short of a Happy Meal... WACKO!" [20:54] MinceR/fn "I'm telling you Teal'c, If we don't get out of this soon I'm going to lose it... Lose it, it means go crazy, nuts, insane, bonzo, no longer in possession of ones faculties, three fries short of a Happy Meal... WACKO!" [20:54] XRevan86 baronhk1[m]: I caught the wind saying that mjg59 never reported you to Matrix.org [20:54] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] baronhk1[m]: I caught the wind saying that mjg59 never reported you to Matrix.org [20:55] baronhk1[m] I don't care if they do at this point. It's a lesson for them in how fucking pointless bans that can't be enforced are. [20:55] baronhk1[m]/fn I don't care if they do at this point. It's a lesson for them in how fucking pointless bans that can't be enforced are. [20:55] phobos_anomaly whack a mole [20:55] phobos_anomaly/fn whack a mole [20:56] *guysoft42 has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [20:56] techrights-bot CLOWN CLOWN CLOWN and HEY HI... or smart HEY HI https://www.siliconrepublic.com/advice/cloud-engineers-skills [20:56] techrights-bot/fn CLOWN CLOWN CLOWN and HEY HI... or smart HEY HI https://www.siliconrepublic.com/advice/cloud-engineers-skills [20:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.siliconrepublic.com | What are the most important skills for cloud engineers? [20:56] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.siliconrepublic.com | What are the most important skills for cloud engineers? [20:56] baronhk1[m] Three fries short is actually quite a lot these days, with inflation and all. [20:56] baronhk1[m]/fn Three fries short is actually quite a lot these days, with inflation and all. [20:56] MinceR :> [20:56] MinceR/fn :> [20:57] baronhk1[m] The lunatics are running the asylum. Handing out free money to parasites. [20:57] baronhk1[m]/fn The lunatics are running the asylum. Handing out free money to parasites. [20:57] baronhk1[m] An order of fries at McDonalds is $4. [20:57] baronhk1[m]/fn An order of fries at McDonalds is $4. [20:57] immibis ah yes. gotta put myself through extra unnecessary inconvenience to teach those libs a lesson [20:57] immibis/fn ah yes. gotta put myself through extra unnecessary inconvenience to teach those libs a lesson [20:57] baronhk1[m] Garrett must be so happy with himself. [20:57] baronhk1[m]/fn Garrett must be so happy with himself. [20:57] techrights-bot Some of these are #freesw https://www.techradar.com/best/cpanel-alternatives [20:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Best cPanel alternatives: DirectAdmin, Plesk, SPanel, Webmin and more | TechRadar [20:57] techrights-bot/fn Some of these are #freesw https://www.techradar.com/best/cpanel-alternatives [20:57] TechrightsBot-tr/fn Best cPanel alternatives: DirectAdmin, Plesk, SPanel, Webmin and more | TechRadar [20:58] baronhk1[m] MinceR: They're trying to convince people who can't do math that we're not dealing with a troubling amount of inflation. [20:58] baronhk1[m]/fn MinceR: They're trying to convince people who can't do math that we're not dealing with a troubling amount of inflation. [20:58] baronhk1[m] It's just that for some strange reason, the cost of everything has gone up 10-30% in like a year. [20:58] baronhk1[m]/fn It's just that for some strange reason, the cost of everything has gone up 10-30% in like a year. [20:58] techrights-bot Parsing Dates and Time Using Luxon | HTMLGoodies.com https://www.htmlgoodies.com/javascript/parsing-date-time-luxon/ #htmlgoodies | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/03/#latest [20:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Parsing Dates and Time Using Luxon | HTMLGoodies.com [20:58] techrights-bot/fn Parsing Dates and Time Using Luxon | HTMLGoodies.com https://www.htmlgoodies.com/javascript/parsing-date-time-luxon/ #htmlgoodies | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/03/#latest [20:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [20:58] TechrightsBot-tr/fn Parsing Dates and Time Using Luxon | HTMLGoodies.com [20:58] *rianne (~rianne@haii6za73zabc.irc) has joined #techrights [20:58] TechrightsBot-tr/fn schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [20:58] *asusbox (~rianne@haii6za73zabc.irc) has joined #techrights [20:59] *asusbox (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [20:59] *rianne (~rianne@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:f4bf:2fd3:cddc:7fb5) has joined #techrights [20:59] baronhk1[m] It's not their problem. The Democrats have finally managed to cause the majority of people who graduate Chicago Public Schools to not understand basic math. [20:59] baronhk1[m]/fn It's not their problem. The Democrats have finally managed to cause the majority of people who graduate Chicago Public Schools to not understand basic math. [20:59] phobos_anomaly and California [20:59] phobos_anomaly/fn and California [20:59] baronhk1[m] So now they can do whatever they want to the public with no panic. [20:59] baronhk1[m]/fn So now they can do whatever they want to the public with no panic. ● Jun 03 [21:00] phobos_anomaly which has some school districts actively working to ban math because... racism or something [21:00] phobos_anomaly/fn which has some school districts actively working to ban math because... racism or something [21:01] phobos_anomaly https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/rick-moran/2021/05/19/california-radicals-say-math-is-racist-set-out-to-cancel-it-in-public-schools-n1448096 [21:01] phobos_anomaly/fn https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/rick-moran/2021/05/19/california-radicals-say-math-is-racist-set-out-to-cancel-it-in-public-schools-n1448096 [21:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pjmedia.com | California Radicals Trying to Cancel Math Instruction PJ Media [21:01] TechrightsBot-tr/fn pjmedia.com | California Radicals Trying to Cancel Math Instruction PJ Media [21:01] techrights-bot Google India IT Rules: #Google claims new #India IT rules not applicable to its search engine https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/internet/google-claims-new-india-it-rules-not-applicable-to-its-search-engine/83169358 [21:01] techrights-bot/fn Google India IT Rules: #Google claims new #India IT rules not applicable to its search engine https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/internet/google-claims-new-india-it-rules-not-applicable-to-its-search-engine/83169358 [21:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | Google India IT Rules: Google claims new India IT rules not applicable to its search engine, IT News, ET CIO [21:01] TechrightsBot-tr/fn cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | Google India IT Rules: Google claims new India IT rules not applicable to its search engine, IT News, ET CIO [21:01] baronhk1[m] Math be al rayciss 'n sheeit. [21:01] baronhk1[m]/fn Math be al rayciss 'n sheeit. [21:02] baronhk1[m] They need another month to teach anti-white hate anyway. [21:02] baronhk1[m]/fn They need another month to teach anti-white hate anyway. [21:03] phobos_anomaly why can't they teach useful stuff... like daily life in a communist society to prepare them for what will happen if the current majorities in the USA get their way [21:03] phobos_anomaly/fn why can't they teach useful stuff... like daily life in a communist society to prepare them for what will happen if the current majorities in the USA get their way [21:03] baronhk1[m] Most people are ready for California to fall into the ocean anyway. Hopefully with Garrett there at the time. [21:03] baronhk1[m]/fn Most people are ready for California to fall into the ocean anyway. Hopefully with Garrett there at the time. [21:04] phobos_anomaly merely ready? I would have thought they'd be on the verge of trying to plant explosives in the San Andreas to preempt Mother Nature, Precarious hand of fate, blah blah [21:04] phobos_anomaly/fn merely ready? I would have thought they'd be on the verge of trying to plant explosives in the San Andreas to preempt Mother Nature, Precarious hand of fate, blah blah [21:04] CrystalMath hmm, purging math or purging racism from math, that article doesn't seem to clarify [21:04] CrystalMath/fn hmm, purging math or purging racism from math, that article doesn't seem to clarify [21:05] baronhk1[m] Which part of math is racist? [21:05] baronhk1[m]/fn Which part of math is racist? [21:05] CrystalMath i guess i could think of maybe, the claim that Newton invented the method for approximating a square root, since middle easterners had it thousands of years ago [21:05] CrystalMath/fn i guess i could think of maybe, the claim that Newton invented the method for approximating a square root, since middle easterners had it thousands of years ago [21:05] baronhk1[m] Please show your work. [21:05] baronhk1[m]/fn Please show your work. [21:05] CrystalMath i mean this is very well known [21:05] CrystalMath/fn i mean this is very well known [21:06] CrystalMath and some in fact do say the babylonian method [21:06] CrystalMath/fn and some in fact do say the babylonian method [21:06] techrights-bot #ProprietarySoftware / #Microsoft Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151907 #TuxMachines [21:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Software/Microsoft Leftovers | Tux Machines [21:06] techrights-bot/fn #ProprietarySoftware / #Microsoft Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151907 #TuxMachines [21:06] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Software/Microsoft Leftovers | Tux Machines [21:06] CrystalMath but yeah, weak example [21:06] CrystalMath/fn but yeah, weak example [21:06] techrights-bot #Security Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151906 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [21:06] techrights-bot/fn #Security Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151906 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [21:06] CrystalMath idk [21:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [21:06] CrystalMath/fn idk [21:06] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [21:06] baronhk1[m] I rather think that someone noticed that certain folks are incapable of understanding it and are busy selling drugs, pimping, and carjacking people anyway. [21:06] baronhk1[m]/fn I rather think that someone noticed that certain folks are incapable of understanding it and are busy selling drugs, pimping, and carjacking people anyway. [21:07] baronhk1[m] So it's not much use to them unless they need to estimate how many years in prison they'd get if Kim Foxx wasn't the State's Attorney of Cook County, Illinois. [21:07] baronhk1[m]/fn So it's not much use to them unless they need to estimate how many years in prison they'd get if Kim Foxx wasn't the State's Attorney of Cook County, Illinois. [21:08] phobos_anomaly lol [21:08] phobos_anomaly/fn lol [21:09] baronhk1[m] The recent flare up in violent crime in Chicago is no coincidence. [21:09] baronhk1[m]/fn The recent flare up in violent crime in Chicago is no coincidence. [21:09] baronhk1[m] Marijuana was legalized because the state wanted the taxes. [21:09] baronhk1[m]/fn Marijuana was legalized because the state wanted the taxes. [21:10] baronhk1[m] Violence has been on the rise ever since then, because the Democrat Paradise has 40% unemployment and selling baggies of weed was all there was to do for money in many cases. [21:10] baronhk1[m]/fn Violence has been on the rise ever since then, because the Democrat Paradise has 40% unemployment and selling baggies of weed was all there was to do for money in many cases. [21:11] techrights-bot #greenwashing of #bitcoin (the cause of much #pollution actually) https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2021/06/02/2240873/0/en/Bitcoin-Latinum-Announces-Groundbreaking-Green-Initiative-and-Launch-Plans.html [21:11] baronhk1[m] The Democrats set it all up so that the weed shops are all white-owned, and by the time they get around to processing any licenses submitted by black or brown people, the 1,500 foot ban from any existing shop will apply. [21:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globenewswire.com | Bitcoin Latinum Announces Groundbreaking Green Initiative [21:11] techrights-bot/fn #greenwashing of #bitcoin (the cause of much #pollution actually) https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2021/06/02/2240873/0/en/Bitcoin-Latinum-Announces-Groundbreaking-Green-Initiative-and-Launch-Plans.html [21:11] baronhk1[m]/fn The Democrats set it all up so that the weed shops are all white-owned, and by the time they get around to processing any licenses submitted by black or brown people, the 1,500 foot ban from any existing shop will apply. [21:11] CrystalMath these days baronhk1[m] is further to the right than me :P [21:11] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.globenewswire.com | Bitcoin Latinum Announces Groundbreaking Green Initiative [21:11] CrystalMath/fn these days baronhk1[m] is further to the right than me :P [21:11] baronhk1[m] So there won't be anywhere left to open one. [21:11] baronhk1[m]/fn So there won't be anywhere left to open one. [21:11] baronhk1[m] Then they went one further and made it illegal to hire anyone to work in one if they have any criminal convictions. [21:11] baronhk1[m]/fn Then they went one further and made it illegal to hire anyone to work in one if they have any criminal convictions. [21:12] schestowitz it's not about tech, baronhk1[m] [21:12] schestowitz/fn it's not about tech, baronhk1[m] [21:12] schestowitz let's keep focused [21:12] schestowitz/fn let's keep focused [21:13] techrights-bot #LG allows others to use its #freesoftware management tool http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151908 Holy crap, bloatware! The front page of #koreaherald is 25+ MB in size! For one page! [21:13] techrights-bot/fn #LG allows others to use its #freesoftware management tool http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151908 Holy crap, bloatware! The front page of #koreaherald is 25+ MB in size! For one page! [21:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LG allows others to use its open source software management tool | Tux Machines [21:13] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | LG allows others to use its open source software management tool | Tux Machines [21:13] baronhk1[m] I'm surprised that Garrett gets away with what he does. Everywhere his favored politics are in play in the United States are where crime and unemployment are out of control and the situation for minorities could literally not be worse. [21:13] baronhk1[m]/fn I'm surprised that Garrett gets away with what he does. Everywhere his favored politics are in play in the United States are where crime and unemployment are out of control and the situation for minorities could literally not be worse. [21:13] baronhk1[m] Yet, he displays the worst case of doublethink I believe I have ever seen. [21:13] baronhk1[m]/fn Yet, he displays the worst case of doublethink I believe I have ever seen. [21:14] baronhk1[m] If you blew away all of Garrett's policies, the situation would be much better for everyone. A rising tide that lifts all boats, so to speak. [21:14] baronhk1[m]/fn If you blew away all of Garrett's policies, the situation would be much better for everyone. A rising tide that lifts all boats, so to speak. [21:15] immibis any position on drugs other than full legalization is anti-freedom [21:15] immibis/fn any position on drugs other than full legalization is anti-freedom [21:15] schestowitz MinceR: are you on it? [21:15] schestowitz/fn MinceR: are you on it? [21:15] schestowitz immibis: there's the access to consultation approach [21:15] schestowitz/fn immibis: there's the access to consultation approach [21:15] immibis what is that approach? [21:15] immibis/fn what is that approach? [21:15] schestowitz wherein you try to help people get off narcotics [21:15] schestowitz/fn wherein you try to help people get off narcotics [21:15] baronhk1[m] You lose the job-killing taxes and regulations, and some civil rights laws that every employer has figured out ways around anyway. If you don't believe me, ask any elderly person how the job hunt goes. It's illegal to do age discrimination. [21:15] baronhk1[m]/fn You lose the job-killing taxes and regulations, and some civil rights laws that every employer has figured out ways around anyway. If you don't believe me, ask any elderly person how the job hunt goes. It's illegal to do age discrimination. [21:15] schestowitz without treating it as a crime [21:15] schestowitz/fn without treating it as a crime [21:15] baronhk1[m] Someone should say that to IBM, Microsoft, and Intel. [21:15] baronhk1[m]/fn Someone should say that to IBM, Microsoft, and Intel. [21:15] schestowitz but mass production and distribution of narcotics remains very problematic [21:15] schestowitz/fn but mass production and distribution of narcotics remains very problematic [21:16] schestowitz so you can regulate it somewhat [21:16] schestowitz/fn so you can regulate it somewhat [21:16] baronhk1[m]/fn It's not a mystery where opioids are coming from. They just don't care. [21:16] baronhk1[m] It's not a mystery where opioids are coming from. They just don't care. [21:17] immibis regulating distribution, other than the usual food/drug regulations like not lacing it with stuff, is anti-freedom [21:17] immibis/fn regulating distribution, other than the usual food/drug regulations like not lacing it with stuff, is anti-freedom [21:18] techrights-bot #LinuxFoundation Fluff http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151909 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [21:18] techrights-bot/fn #LinuxFoundation Fluff http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151909 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [21:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation Fluff | Tux Machines [21:18] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation Fluff | Tux Machines [21:18] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.41 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 55.30 swarm size (avg): 237.46 [21:18] techrights-ipfs/fn IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.41 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 55.30 swarm size (avg): 237.46 [21:18] schestowitz immibis: when you have large unregulated and unlicensed meth factories selling it on the cheap it leads to trouble [21:18] schestowitz/fn immibis: when you have large unregulated and unlicensed meth factories selling it on the cheap it leads to trouble [21:19] schestowitz so then you need to decide what to do... [21:19] schestowitz/fn so then you need to decide what to do... [21:19] schestowitz even alcohol is regulated [21:19] schestowitz/fn even alcohol is regulated [21:19] schestowitz in many ways [21:19] schestowitz/fn in many ways [21:19] schestowitz who can buy, when, how much, where you can go while drunk, whether driving if permitted etc. [21:19] schestowitz/fn who can buy, when, how much, where you can go while drunk, whether driving if permitted etc. [21:19] immibis which is no different from large unregulated and unlicensed food factories, and the same regulations should apply, i.e. purify it properly and don't put extra toxic substances in it [21:19] immibis/fn which is no different from large unregulated and unlicensed food factories, and the same regulations should apply, i.e. purify it properly and don't put extra toxic substances in it [21:20] schestowitz food is also regulated [21:20] schestowitz/fn food is also regulated [21:20] schestowitz expiry dates and all [21:20] schestowitz/fn expiry dates and all [21:20] schestowitz maybe you oppose that too [21:20] schestowitz/fn maybe you oppose that too [21:20] immibis and that alcohol regulation is anti-freedom, and far less-"freedumby" places than the USA have far less regulations on alcohol, and for some reason the republicans don't complain about it, in fact sometimes they demand more [21:20] immibis/fn and that alcohol regulation is anti-freedom, and far less-"freedumby" places than the USA have far less regulations on alcohol, and for some reason the republicans don't complain about it, in fact sometimes they demand more [21:20] schestowitz FSA in the UK regulated eateries also [21:20] schestowitz/fn FSA in the UK regulated eateries also [21:20] schestowitz it's because experience showed lack of regulation leads to bad outcomes [21:20] schestowitz/fn it's because experience showed lack of regulation leads to bad outcomes [21:21] schestowitz as a pedestrian too I would not like drunk drivers to knock cars into things [21:21] schestowitz/fn as a pedestrian too I would not like drunk drivers to knock cars into things [21:21] schestowitz because your 'freedom' as a driver is a fist or punch in my face [21:21] schestowitz/fn because your 'freedom' as a driver is a fist or punch in my face [21:21] immibis that's a driving regulation [21:21] immibis/fn that's a driving regulation [21:23] schestowitz against freedom, according to you [21:23] schestowitz/fn against freedom, according to you [21:24] schestowitz_log INPIUtheyet's0/ [21:24] schestowitz_log/fn INPIUtheyet's0/ [21:24] schestowitz wrong window [21:24] schestowitz/fn wrong window [21:25] immibis/fn schestowitz: I said drug regulations were anti-freedom, not alcohol regulations, and I didn't even say all drug regulations were anti-freedom, just the excessive ones compared to other consumable substances [21:25] immibis schestowitz: I said drug regulations were anti-freedom, not alcohol regulations, and I didn't even say all drug regulations were anti-freedom, just the excessive ones compared to other consumable substances [21:25] schestowitz libertarian machoism is promoted by the Kochs and others [21:25] schestowitz/fn libertarian machoism is promoted by the Kochs and others [21:25] schestowitz to keep regulators away while they kill the planet [21:25] schestowitz/fn to keep regulators away while they kill the planet [21:27] techrights-bot #OpenHardware : #CMSIS and #Arduino http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151910 #sharing #TuxMachines [21:27] techrights-bot/fn #OpenHardware : #CMSIS and #Arduino http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151910 #sharing #TuxMachines [21:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware: CMSIS and Arduino | Tux Machines [21:27] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware: CMSIS and Arduino | Tux Machines [21:29] MinceR schestowitz: am i on what? [21:29] MinceR/fn schestowitz: am i on what? [21:29] schestowitz I thought you were becoming op in the other networks so we can restore the bridge without the saboteur in there [21:29] schestowitz/fn I thought you were becoming op in the other networks so we can restore the bridge without the saboteur in there [21:30] CrystalMath immibis: i agree with you on that stuff [21:30] CrystalMath/fn immibis: i agree with you on that stuff [21:30] schestowitz I don't even know if anything at all happens in that network [21:30] schestowitz/fn I don't even know if anything at all happens in that network [21:30] MinceR schestowitz: #techrights is not registered on libera [21:30] MinceR/fn schestowitz: #techrights is not registered on libera [21:30] CrystalMath schestowitz: why care about that place? [21:30] CrystalMath/fn schestowitz: why care about that place? [21:30] techrights-bot #Devices : Nexcom, QNAP, Servo Motors, #AstroPi http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151911 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [21:30] techrights-bot/fn #Devices : Nexcom, QNAP, Servo Motors, #AstroPi http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151911 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [21:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Devices: Nexcom, QNAP, Servo Motors, Astro Pi | Tux Machines [21:30] MinceR CrystalMath: tilting at windmills [21:30] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | Devices: Nexcom, QNAP, Servo Motors, Astro Pi | Tux Machines [21:30] MinceR/fn CrystalMath: tilting at windmills [21:30] CrystalMath as the topic says, "support freenode" [21:30] CrystalMath/fn as the topic says, "support freenode" [21:31] CrystalMath MinceR: what do you mean? [21:31] CrystalMath/fn MinceR: what do you mean? [21:31] schestowitz I was given the impression they were gossiping there, maybe to make us look bad, using our own name [21:31] schestowitz/fn I was given the impression they were gossiping there, maybe to make us look bad, using our own name [21:31] MinceR CrystalMath: "but what if someone else registers it and smears our name" [21:31] MinceR/fn CrystalMath: "but what if someone else registers it and smears our name" [21:31] schestowitz which can then mislead and alienate people who think that's us [21:31] schestowitz/fn which can then mislead and alienate people who think that's us [21:31] superkuh The topic says support freenode? [21:31] tr-bridge [superkuh/tr] The topic says support freenode? [21:31] MinceR there are at least 497 irc networks [21:31] MinceR/fn there are at least 497 irc networks [21:31] XRevan86 schestowitz: I'm watching it right now, they're talking about political philosophy. [21:31] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: I'm watching it right now, they're talking about political philosophy. [21:31] CrystalMath superkuh: correct [21:31] CrystalMath/fn superkuh: correct [21:31] *superkuh has quit (Quit: the neuronal action potential is an electrical manipulation of reversible abrupt phase changes in the lipid bilayer) [21:32] schestowitz XRevan86: why using our name? [21:32] schestowitz/fn XRevan86: why using our name? [21:32] CrystalMath superkuh: freenode is good, and techrights knows it, techrights always takes the right side tbh, except when a certain sysadmin decides to mess it up [21:32] CrystalMath/fn superkuh: freenode is good, and techrights knows it, techrights always takes the right side tbh, except when a certain sysadmin decides to mess it up [21:32] phobos_anomaly did anyone find out who is hosting freenode.net ? [21:32] phobos_anomaly/fn did anyone find out who is hosting freenode.net ? [21:32] CrystalMath phobos_anomaly: behind clownflare? :P [21:32] CrystalMath/fn phobos_anomaly: behind clownflare? :P [21:32] phobos_anomaly yeah, that one [21:32] phobos_anomaly/fn yeah, that one [21:33] schestowitz it can run on a toaster [21:33] schestowitz/fn it can run on a toaster [21:33] schestowitz as it's outsourcing all the traffic to a dodgy third party anyway [21:33] schestowitz/fn as it's outsourcing all the traffic to a dodgy third party anyway [21:33] schestowitz just needs to feed some static pages to clownflare once in a while [21:33] schestowitz/fn just needs to feed some static pages to clownflare once in a while [21:33] baronhk1[m] Well, things like Bill's reactor investment couldn't work without low interest loans and grants from taxpayers and climate panic. [21:33] baronhk1[m]/fn Well, things like Bill's reactor investment couldn't work without low interest loans and grants from taxpayers and climate panic. [21:33] phobos_anomaly Everyone I've talked to that would know either feigns ignorance, shuts up, or gives some bad info [21:33] phobos_anomaly/fn Everyone I've talked to that would know either feigns ignorance, shuts up, or gives some bad info [21:34] schestowitz baronhk1[m]: hey steals taxpayers' money in many other ways [21:34] schestowitz/fn baronhk1[m]: hey steals taxpayers' money in many other ways [21:34] baronhk1[m] They're putting the first one in Wyoming. The state has a fairly Libertarian swing to it, but they recognize federal pork when they get it. [21:34] baronhk1[m]/fn They're putting the first one in Wyoming. The state has a fairly Libertarian swing to it, but they recognize federal pork when they get it. [21:34] schestowitz I wrote about this a lot a decade or more ago [21:34] schestowitz/fn I wrote about this a lot a decade or more ago [21:34] schestowitz the governments line his pockets [21:34] schestowitz/fn the governments line his pockets [21:34] XRevan86 schestowitz: The centre of discussion is a person that was muted on the freenode side for uncertain reasons. [21:34] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: The centre of discussion is a person that was muted on the freenode side for uncertain reasons. [21:35] schestowitz so it's basically a discussion about an anti-TR troll [21:35] schestowitz/fn so it's basically a discussion about an anti-TR troll [21:35] schestowitz the only one we muted after about half a year of abuse and defamation [21:35] schestowitz/fn the only one we muted after about half a year of abuse and defamation [21:36] schestowitz so after google it's a full-time troll exploiting the "victim card" [21:36] schestowitz/fn so after google it's a full-time troll exploiting the "victim card" [21:36] schestowitz by trolling a site [21:36] schestowitz/fn by trolling a site [21:36] CrystalMath schestowitz: btw, have you heard from Leah Rowe? [21:36] CrystalMath/fn schestowitz: btw, have you heard from Leah Rowe? [21:36] schestowitz and then going to some channel named after it [21:36] schestowitz/fn and then going to some channel named after it [21:36] schestowitz CrystalMath: yes [21:36] schestowitz/fn CrystalMath: yes [21:49] schestowitz actually a little overwhelmed to learn how many read the site [21:49] schestowitz/fn actually a little overwhelmed to learn how many read the site [21:49] schestowitz inc. people I know from a distance [21:49] schestowitz/fn inc. people I know from a distance [21:50] *bruhstrone_ (~bruhstron@gateway/tor-sasl/bruhstrone) has joined #techrights [21:51] *bruhstrone has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [21:53] techrights-bot #Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151912 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [21:53] techrights-bot/fn #Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151912 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [21:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [21:53] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [21:54] techrights-bot #freeSW leftovers # 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Why?" [22:03] schestowitz/fn "You keep claiming that I'm defaming people (by, uh, accurately reporting what they say?) but you tolerate this sort of content on the IRC channel you run. Why?" [22:04] schestowitz Xrevan: did he and 'his ilk' hijack the channel so to speak in LC? [22:04] schestowitz/fn Xrevan: did he and 'his ilk' hijack the channel so to speak in LC? [22:04] schestowitz If so, it's misuse of the name [22:04] schestowitz/fn If so, it's misuse of the name [22:04] schestowitz to push anti-TR messages in a channel that people wrong assume is us [22:04] schestowitz/fn to push anti-TR messages in a channel that people wrong assume is us [22:05] XRevan86 schestowitz: No, he didn't speak. He only wrote one message. [22:05] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: No, he didn't speak. He only wrote one message. [22:05] schestowitz ok [22:05] schestowitz/fn ok [22:05] XRevan86 oh, actually, three, missed the other two [22:05] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] oh, actually, three, missed the other two [22:05] schestowitz my understanding is that a two-way bridge would be mostly harmless assuming he's not there or inactive [22:05] schestowitz/fn my understanding is that a two-way bridge would be mostly harmless assuming he's not there or inactive [22:05] XRevan86 (19:54:06) mjg59: (I have never reported Ryan to any Matrix admins) [22:05] XRevan86 (20:46:25) mjg59: I'm extremely confused why Roy seems to think I'm unemployed [22:05] XRevan86 (20:48:40) mjg59: I started my new job the day after I left Google [22:05] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] (19:54:06) mjg59: (I have never reported Ryan to any Matrix admins) [22:05] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] (20:46:25) mjg59: I'm extremely confused why Roy seems to think I'm unemployed [22:05] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] (20:48:40) mjg59: I started my new job the day after I left Google [22:06] schestowitz he doesn't even say where [22:06] schestowitz/fn he doesn't even say where [22:06] schestowitz so one can guess [22:06] schestowitz/fn so one can guess [22:06] schestowitz aurora inno [22:06] schestowitz/fn aurora inno [22:06] XRevan86 (21:06:16) mjg59: It's in my Twitter bio [22:06] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] (21:06:16) mjg59: It's in my Twitter bio [22:06] schestowitz some self-driving thing [22:06] schestowitz/fn some self-driving thing [22:07] schestowitz wait, the bridge leads there, outwards only? [22:07] schestowitz/fn wait, the bridge leads there, outwards only? [22:07] schestowitz and time gmt-1? [22:07] schestowitz/fn and time gmt-1? [22:08] schestowitz if so, I suppose no harm done as we're publishing logs anyway regardless [22:08] schestowitz/fn if so, I suppose no harm done as we're publishing logs anyway regardless [22:08] *Aspie96 (02226e09@net-2-34-110-9.cust.vodafonedsl.it) has joined #techrights [22:08] schestowitz anyway, on we move... can't believe how many hours were spend on technical issues today :/ [22:08] schestowitz/fn anyway, on we move... can't believe how many hours were spend on technical issues today :/ [22:09] XRevan86 schestowitz: mjg59 is in irc.techrights.org [22:09] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: mjg59 is in irc.techrights.org [22:09] schestowitz oh, i see... [22:09] schestowitz/fn oh, i see... [22:09] Aspie96 GCC updated its mission statement. [22:09] Aspie96/fn GCC updated its mission statement. [22:09] Aspie96 https://gcc.gnu.org/gccmission.html [22:09] Aspie96/fn https://gcc.gnu.org/gccmission.html [22:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gcc.gnu.org | GCC Development Mission Statement (2021-06-01) - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation (FSF) [22:09] TechrightsBot-tr/fn gcc.gnu.org | GCC Development Mission Statement (2021-06-01) - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation (FSF) [22:09] gustaf CrystalMath: just a feedbck, I did request the channel that was hijacked to be reinstated, but the ops team didn't believe it merited a single-hash status, so the channel, registered in 2006, is now gone forever [22:09] gustaf/fn CrystalMath: just a feedbck, I did request the channel that was hijacked to be reinstated, but the ops team didn't believe it merited a single-hash status, so the channel, registered in 2006, is now gone forever [22:09] schestowitz maybe they'll defect to the fake "GNU" [22:09] schestowitz/fn maybe they'll defect to the fake "GNU" [22:09] Aspie96 After the recent update, which was done inconsistently with the mission statement. [22:09] Aspie96/fn After the recent update, which was done inconsistently with the mission statement. [22:09] CrystalMath gustaf: yeah it was probably against the rules the entire time [22:09] CrystalMath/fn gustaf: yeah it was probably against the rules the entire time [22:09] schestowitz since it seems people like to hijack names of things which they attack [22:09] schestowitz/fn since it seems people like to hijack names of things which they attack [22:10] CrystalMath gustaf: freenode has a rule about # and ## channels [22:10] CrystalMath/fn gustaf: freenode has a rule about # and ## channels [22:10] gustaf yeah sure [22:10] gustaf/fn yeah sure [22:11] schestowitz imagine if we registered #novell [22:11] schestowitz/fn imagine if we registered #novell [22:11] *Aspie96 has quit (Client Quit) [22:11] schestowitz and then misled people who come there for support [22:11] schestowitz/fn and then misled people who come there for support [22:11] schestowitz telling them how awful novell was [22:11] schestowitz/fn telling them how awful novell was [22:11] schestowitz we used boycottnovell [22:11] schestowitz/fn we used boycottnovell [22:11] schestowitz which avoids the trademark issues [22:11] schestowitz/fn which avoids the trademark issues [22:11] *Aspie96 (02226e09@net-2-34-110-9.cust.vodafonedsl.it) has joined #techrights [22:14] *phobos_anomaly has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [22:20] techrights-bot #Rescuezilla 2.2 Supports Disk Cloning and NFS/SSH Shares, Its Based on Ubuntu 21.04 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151916 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [22:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Rescuezilla 2.2 Supports Disk Cloning and NFS/SSH Shares, Its Based on Ubuntu 21.04 | Tux Machines [22:20] techrights-bot/fn #Rescuezilla 2.2 Supports Disk Cloning and NFS/SSH Shares, Its Based on Ubuntu 21.04 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151916 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [22:20] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | Rescuezilla 2.2 Supports Disk Cloning and NFS/SSH Shares, Its Based on Ubuntu 21.04 | Tux Machines [22:21] MinceR https://img.pr0gramm.com/2021/05/20/2802925fdc580b93.jpg [22:21] MinceR/fn https://img.pr0gramm.com/2021/05/20/2802925fdc580b93.jpg [22:23] *Aspie96 (02226e09@net-2-34-110-9.cust.vodafonedsl.it) has left #techrights [22:34] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:34] *asusbox has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:35] *asusbox has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [22:36] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [22:42] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [22:49] techrights-bot "Someone posted about this in ama-jim and the bluebirds are dismissing ECS because its not Kubernetes. LMAO. Theyre so clueless." #redhat #ibm https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1ba7qGIT [22:49] techrights-bot/fn "Someone posted about this in ama-jim and the bluebirds are dismissing ECS because its not Kubernetes. LMAO. Theyre so clueless." #redhat #ibm https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1ba7qGIT [22:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Godfather of IBM and hybrid cloud has arrived - post regarding IBM layoffs [22:49] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.thelayoff.com | Godfather of IBM and hybrid cloud has arrived - post regarding IBM layoffs [22:49] baronhk1[m] Imagine if Stargate happened ten years later. That Vagina Monologues scene with Teal'c wouldn't have gone over well. [22:49] baronhk1[m]/fn Imagine if Stargate happened ten years later. That Vagina Monologues scene with Teal'c wouldn't have gone over well. [22:52] baronhk1[m] Microsoft maybe, like Miguel. [22:52] baronhk1[m]/fn Microsoft maybe, like Miguel. [22:52] techrights-bot #RedHat is Becoming Somewhat Like SUSE, Stranded Inside a Company That Doesnt Get Free Software (Pushing Proprietary Software for Money) http://techrights.org/2021/06/03/red-hat-and-schizo/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/03/red-hat-and-schizo/ [22:52] techrights-bot/fn #RedHat is Becoming Somewhat Like SUSE, Stranded Inside a Company That Doesnt Get Free Software (Pushing Proprietary Software for Money) http://techrights.org/2021/06/03/red-hat-and-schizo/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/03/red-hat-and-schizo/ [22:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Red Hat is Becoming Somewhat Like SUSE, Stranded Inside a Company That Doesnt Get Free Software (Pushing Proprietary Software for Money) | Techrights [22:52] TechrightsBot-tr/fn techrights.org | Red Hat is Becoming Somewhat Like SUSE, Stranded Inside a Company That Doesnt Get Free Software (Pushing Proprietary Software for Money) | Techrights [22:54] schestowitz Miguel is even pissing off Mexicans now [22:54] schestowitz/fn Miguel is even pissing off Mexicans now [22:54] schestowitz like the Nitrux devs [22:54] schestowitz/fn like the Nitrux devs [22:54] schestowitz he's hijacking their project names [22:54] schestowitz/fn he's hijacking their project names [22:54] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2009/09/21/rms-on-miguel-de-icaza/ [22:54] schestowitz/fn http://techrights.org/2009/09/21/rms-on-miguel-de-icaza/ [22:54] TechrightsBot-tr/fn techrights.org | Miguel de Icaza is Basically a Traitor to the Free Software Community, Says Richard Stallman | Techrights [22:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Miguel de Icaza is Basically a Traitor to the Free Software Community, Says Richard Stallman | Techrights [22:55] schestowitz https://nxos.org/maui/official-statement-regarding-uxdivers-grial-kit-and-mauikit-com-usage/ [22:55] schestowitz/fn https://nxos.org/maui/official-statement-regarding-uxdivers-grial-kit-and-mauikit-com-usage/ [22:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nxos.org | Official Statement Regarding UXDivers Grial Kit and MauiKit.com usage Nitrux #YourNextOS [22:56] TechrightsBot-tr/fn nxos.org | Official Statement Regarding UXDivers Grial Kit and MauiKit.com usage Nitrux #YourNextOS [22:56] schestowitz they moan about Mono de Icaza and his ilk [22:56] schestowitz/fn they moan about Mono de Icaza and his ilk [22:56] schestowitz Uri Herera is Mexicans [22:56] schestowitz/fn Uri Herera is Mexicans [22:56] schestowitz and most Nitrux devs are too afaik [22:56] schestowitz/fn and most Nitrux devs are too afaik [22:56] schestowitz Context: https://nxos.org/maui/ [22:56] schestowitz/fn Context: https://nxos.org/maui/ [22:56] TechrightsBot-tr/fn nxos.org | Maui Archivos Nitrux #YourNextOS [22:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nxos.org | Maui Archivos Nitrux #YourNextOS [22:56] schestowitz More: https://nxos.org/news/official-statement-regarding-xamarin-forms-rebranding-as-maui/ [22:56] schestowitz/fn More: https://nxos.org/news/official-statement-regarding-xamarin-forms-rebranding-as-maui/ [22:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nxos.org | Official Statement Regarding Xamarin.Forms rebranding as MAUI Nitrux #YourNextOS [22:57] TechrightsBot-tr/fn nxos.org | Official Statement Regarding Xamarin.Forms rebranding as MAUI Nitrux #YourNextOS [22:57] schestowitz I will prepare a statement on IRC [22:57] schestowitz/fn I will prepare a statement on IRC [22:57] schestowitz to remove confusion [22:57] schestowitz/fn to remove confusion [22:58] baronhk1[m] Like Git Virtual File System having a collision with the GNOME VFS. [22:58] baronhk1[m]/fn Like Git Virtual File System having a collision with the GNOME VFS. ● Jun 03 [23:00] *BaronVladimirHa4 (baronhkner@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-zfaigtjoftmwbgux) has joined #techrights [23:03] baronhk1[m] The Microsoft MVP program is a lot like that AOL Community Leader thing. [23:03] baronhk1[m]/fn The Microsoft MVP program is a lot like that AOL Community Leader thing. [23:04] baronhk1[m] AOL didn't want to pay people to do tech support and build out their site, so they paid them with free hours on AOL which didn't really cost them much. [23:04] baronhk1[m]/fn AOL didn't want to pay people to do tech support and build out their site, so they paid them with free hours on AOL which didn't really cost them much. [23:04] baronhk1[m] There was a lawsuit over that. AOL lost when courts decided that they were doing work that should be done by paid employees. [23:04] baronhk1[m]/fn There was a lawsuit over that. AOL lost when courts decided that they were doing work that should be done by paid employees. [23:05] schestowitz the troll likes to stab you in the back while pretending to be 'buddies' to your face [23:05] schestowitz/fn the troll likes to stab you in the back while pretending to be 'buddies' to your face [23:05] schestowitz it makes the trolling more effective [23:05] schestowitz/fn it makes the trolling more effective [23:05] schestowitz I am doing a post about the issue [23:05] schestowitz/fn I am doing a post about the issue [23:05] schestowitz baronhk1[m]: if you want to proofread... [23:05] schestowitz/fn baronhk1[m]: if you want to proofread... [23:06] baronhk1[m] Firefox had to change names like three times, iirc. [23:06] baronhk1[m]/fn Firefox had to change names like three times, iirc. [23:06] baronhk1[m] It was Phoenix, then Firebird, then Firefox. [23:06] baronhk1[m]/fn It was Phoenix, then Firebird, then Firefox. [23:08] baronhk1[m]/fn https://github.com/dotnet/maui/issues/35 [23:08] baronhk1[m] https://github.com/dotnet/maui/issues/35 [23:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-[Bug] Name clash with Maui Linux and MauiKit Issue #35 dotnet/maui GitHub [23:08] TechrightsBot-tr/fn [Bug] Name clash with Maui Linux and MauiKit Issue #35 dotnet/maui GitHub [23:08] baronhk1[m] schestowitz: A Microsoft MVP on GitHub became so abusive that a Microsoft employee had to ban him for a week over Code of Conduct. [23:08] baronhk1[m]/fn schestowitz: A Microsoft MVP on GitHub became so abusive that a Microsoft employee had to ban him for a week over Code of Conduct. [23:08] baronhk1[m] "Dan Siegel dansiegel [23:08] baronhk1[m]/fn "Dan Siegel dansiegel [23:08] baronhk1[m] Code Monkey | Microsoft MVP | @PrismLibrary Maintainer | Cross Platform, Xamarin Forms and Azure Consultant" [23:08] baronhk1[m]/fn Code Monkey | Microsoft MVP | @PrismLibrary Maintainer | Cross Platform, Xamarin Forms and Azure Consultant" [23:09] baronhk1[m] davidortinau commented on May 19, 2020 [23:09] baronhk1[m]/fn davidortinau commented on May 19, 2020 [23:09] baronhk1[m] @dansiegel your tone and style of commenting is violating our Code of Conduct. We have marked the problematic comments as abusive and blocked you for 7 days. If this behavior persists, were going to block you permanently. [23:09] baronhk1[m] Its OK to be passionate but attacking another open source project for any reason is not okay. This is not the kind of community we want to have and such behavior will not be tolerated. [23:09] baronhk1[m]/fn @dansiegel your tone and style of commenting is violating our Code of Conduct. We have marked the problematic comments as abusive and blocked you for 7 days. If this behavior persists, were going to block you permanently. [23:09] baronhk1[m]/fn Its OK to be passionate but attacking another open source project for any reason is not okay. This is not the kind of community we want to have and such behavior will not be tolerated. [23:09] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [23:11] baronhk1[m] There's no telling what Dan Siegel actually said that got to the point that Microsoft invoked the CoC on their own MVP. [23:11] baronhk1[m]/fn There's no telling what Dan Siegel actually said that got to the point that Microsoft invoked the CoC on their own MVP. [23:11] baronhk1[m] Because Microsoft deleted the comments. [23:11] baronhk1[m]/fn Because Microsoft deleted the comments. [23:11] schestowitz baronhk1[m]: http://techrights.org/2021/06/03/statement-on-irc/ [23:11] schestowitz/fn baronhk1[m]: http://techrights.org/2021/06/03/statement-on-irc/ [23:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Official Policy/Statement on IRC | Techrights [23:11] TechrightsBot-tr/fn techrights.org | Official Policy/Statement on IRC | Techrights [23:11] schestowitz you make a mess with your sordid views [23:11] schestowitz/fn you make a mess with your sordid views [23:11] schestowitz this is an attempt to mitigate this somewhat [23:11] schestowitz/fn this is an attempt to mitigate this somewhat [23:11] schestowitz see if you can spot typos (I've not yet) [23:11] schestowitz/fn see if you can spot typos (I've not yet) [23:13] baronhk1[m] "for the fake of free speech and privacy" [23:13] baronhk1[m]/fn "for the fake of free speech and privacy" [23:13] techrights-bot #microsoft is censoring its critics, even Microsoft MVPs, in #github https://github.com/dotnet/maui/issues/35 #deletegithub ASAP, it's an abusive propaganda and coercion machine http://techrights.org/2020/06/15/confessions-of-scott-guthrie/ [23:13] techrights-bot/fn #microsoft is censoring its critics, even Microsoft MVPs, in #github https://github.com/dotnet/maui/issues/35 #deletegithub ASAP, it's an abusive propaganda and coercion machine http://techrights.org/2020/06/15/confessions-of-scott-guthrie/ [23:13] baronhk1[m] sake [23:13] baronhk1[m]/fn sake [23:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Story About Microsofts Plan for GitHub Says a Lot About the Motivations and the Lies Told to Us for Over Half a Decade | Techrights [23:13] TechrightsBot-tr/fn techrights.org | The Story About Microsofts Plan for GitHub Says a Lot About the Motivations and the Lies Told to Us for Over Half a Decade | Techrights [23:14] baronhk1[m] "hang our in IRC" [23:14] baronhk1[m]/fn "hang our in IRC" [23:14] baronhk1[m] out [23:14] baronhk1[m]/fn out [23:14] schestowitz cheers, corrected [23:14] schestowitz/fn cheers, corrected [23:14] baronhk1[m] "our of context" [23:14] baronhk1[m]/fn "our of context" [23:14] baronhk1[m] out [23:14] baronhk1[m]/fn out [23:14] schestowitz done [23:14] schestowitz/fn done [23:15] baronhk1[m] Did you mean to say bridged into Libera Chat? [23:15] baronhk1[m]/fn Did you mean to say bridged into Libera Chat? [23:15] schestowitz no [23:15] schestowitz/fn no [23:15] schestowitz we don't bridge to that [23:15] schestowitz/fn we don't bridge to that [23:15] schestowitz and it's not ours either [23:15] schestowitz/fn and it's not ours either [23:15] schestowitz I thought MinceR would take control of it [23:15] schestowitz/fn I thought MinceR would take control of it [23:15] schestowitz for now, it's potentially hostiel [23:15] schestowitz/fn for now, it's potentially hostiel [23:15] baronhk1[m] I really don't like Libera Chat. It seems to be an awful lot like a digital tranny farm. [23:15] baronhk1[m]/fn I really don't like Libera Chat. It seems to be an awful lot like a digital tranny farm. [23:16] baronhk1[m] Like that thing that NPR wasted an article on, out in Colorado. [23:16] baronhk1[m]/fn Like that thing that NPR wasted an article on, out in Colorado. [23:16] baronhk1[m] They move in there and build a chicken wire fence and stockpile guns to get away from the "oppression by cisgender people". [23:16] baronhk1[m]/fn They move in there and build a chicken wire fence and stockpile guns to get away from the "oppression by cisgender people". [23:17] baronhk1[m] They get more money from donations than they do running this "ranch", apparently. [23:17] baronhk1[m]/fn They get more money from donations than they do running this "ranch", apparently. [23:17] baronhk1[m] Nice hustle. [23:17] baronhk1[m]/fn Nice hustle. [23:17] psydroid I think that it's a good thing that it exists, as it could allow for the trolling to mainly happen over there [23:17] psydroid/fn I think that it's a good thing that it exists, as it could allow for the trolling to mainly happen over there [23:18] schestowitz they do receive a lot of abuse though [23:18] schestowitz/fn they do receive a lot of abuse though [23:18] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.46 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 60.61 swarm size (avg): 237.50 [23:18] techrights-ipfs/fn IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.46 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 60.61 swarm size (avg): 237.50 [23:18] schestowitz anyway, back on topic pls [23:18] schestowitz/fn anyway, back on topic pls [23:18] MinceR schestowitz: how am i supposed to take control of it? [23:18] MinceR/fn schestowitz: how am i supposed to take control of it? [23:18] schestowitz I think registering the channel [23:18] schestowitz/fn I think registering the channel [23:18] schestowitz and then getting op [23:18] schestowitz/fn and then getting op [23:19] MinceR 04 001918 [Libera] -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.libera.chat)- You must be a channel operator in #techrights in order to register it. [23:19] MinceR/fn 04 001918 [Libera] -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.libera.chat)- You must be a channel operator in #techrights in order to register it. [23:19] baronhk1[m] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tranny - Apparently, Facebook's autoban works on this word. [23:19] baronhk1[m]/fn https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tranny - Apparently, Facebook's autoban works on this word. [23:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Tranny - Wikipedia [23:19] TechrightsBot-tr/fn en.wikipedia.org | Tranny - Wikipedia [23:19] baronhk1[m] Which has stifled their ability to try to "reclaim" it. [23:19] baronhk1[m]/fn Which has stifled their ability to try to "reclaim" it. [23:20] schestowitz I would rather talk about real issues [23:20] schestowitz/fn I would rather talk about real issues [23:20] schestowitz like poverty and corporations taking over governments [23:20] schestowitz/fn like poverty and corporations taking over governments [23:21] schestowitz not bathroom stalls, who qualifies for beauty pageants, athletes etc. [23:21] schestowitz/fn not bathroom stalls, who qualifies for beauty pageants, athletes etc. [23:21] schestowitz techrights is about tech and stuff [23:21] schestowitz/fn techrights is about tech and stuff [23:21] schestowitz stop interjecting unrelated stuff [23:21] schestowitz/fn stop interjecting unrelated stuff [23:21] baronhk1[m] The government basically has gotten Facebook to shut down people talking about anything. The bans have gotten to be such a minefield that you can have your account shut down for pretty much anything. [23:21] baronhk1[m]/fn The government basically has gotten Facebook to shut down people talking about anything. The bans have gotten to be such a minefield that you can have your account shut down for pretty much anything. [23:22] baronhk1[m] Matrix is like this too. [23:22] baronhk1[m]/fn Matrix is like this too. [23:22] baronhk1[m] I've noticed that there's been a big loss of active users at Facebook. [23:22] baronhk1[m]/fn I've noticed that there's been a big loss of active users at Facebook. 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[23:25] baronhk1[m]/fn The "news" has been replaced by "Today in bathroom bills and race war.". [23:25] baronhk1[m] It gets people talking about non-issues. Drowns them out. [23:25] baronhk1[m]/fn It gets people talking about non-issues. Drowns them out. [23:26] schestowitz NPR is funded by Microsoft and Bill Gates [23:26] schestowitz/fn NPR is funded by Microsoft and Bill Gates [23:26] schestowitz many people still use the site because of its text-only version [23:26] schestowitz/fn many people still use the site because of its text-only version [23:27] schestowitz I'm sceptical also of BBC and Guardian for the same reasons [23:27] schestowitz/fn I'm sceptical also of BBC and Guardian for the same reasons [23:27] schestowitz bribed media [23:27] schestowitz/fn bribed media [23:27] schestowitz IBM is also trying to own the media now [23:27] schestowitz/fn IBM is also trying to own the media now [23:27] schestowitz/fn probably too late [23:27] schestowitz probably too late [23:27] schestowitz IBM is in a freefall [23:27] schestowitz/fn IBM is in a freefall [23:27] schestowitz too many years of really bad managemrnt [23:27] schestowitz/fn too many years of really bad managemrnt [23:27] schestowitz 20 years ago they still stood a chance [23:27] schestowitz/fn 20 years ago they still stood a chance [23:35] baronhk1[m]/fn Maybe before they sold their PC business to LOL No! vo. [23:35] baronhk1[m] Maybe before they sold their PC business to LOL No! vo. [23:35] techrights-bot Richard Stallmans 2020 Talk: Why Operating Systems and Other Software Should be Free http://techrights.org/2021/06/03/richard-stallman-2020-talk/ #Techrights #GNU #RMS #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/03/richard-stallman-2020-talk/ [23:35] techrights-bot/fn Richard Stallmans 2020 Talk: Why Operating Systems and Other Software Should be Free http://techrights.org/2021/06/03/richard-stallman-2020-talk/ #Techrights #GNU #RMS #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/03/richard-stallman-2020-talk/ [23:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Richard Stallmans 2020 Talk: Why Operating Systems and Other Software Should be Free | Techrights [23:35] TechrightsBot-tr/fn techrights.org | Richard Stallmans 2020 Talk: Why Operating Systems and Other Software Should be Free | Techrights [23:37] rbraun the guardian used to be pretty good [23:37] rbraun/fn the guardian used to be pretty good [23:37] rbraun they get a lot of knee-jerk stuff asking for censorship now [23:37] rbraun/fn they get a lot of knee-jerk stuff asking for censorship now [23:37] rbraun/fn they do post opposing viewpoints on the left, tho, like this wonderful article: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/mar/19/rightwing-misinformation-liberals [23:37] rbraun they do post opposing viewpoints on the left, tho, like this wonderful article: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/mar/19/rightwing-misinformation-liberals [23:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Liberals want to blame rightwing 'misinformation' for our problems. Get real | Thomas Frank | The Guardian [23:37] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.theguardian.com | Liberals want to blame rightwing 'misinformation' for our problems. Get real | Thomas Frank | The Guardian [23:37] schestowitz guardian changed [23:37] schestowitz/fn guardian changed [23:37] rbraun thomas frank has been smarter than the US democrats for like 20 years, too bad they don't listen to him [23:37] rbraun/fn thomas frank has been smarter than the US democrats for like 20 years, too bad they don't listen to him [23:38] schestowitz they take money from ford, rockefeller and gates, while begging readers to chip in too [23:38] schestowitz/fn they take money from ford, rockefeller and gates, while begging readers to chip in too [23:38] rbraun they made a big mistake in choosing the next editor after rusbridger, IMO [23:38] rbraun/fn they made a big mistake in choosing the next editor after rusbridger, IMO [23:38] schestowitz rusbridger was already bad [23:38] schestowitz/fn rusbridger was already bad [23:38] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:38] rbraun nah he was pretty good, in my view [23:38] rbraun/fn nah he was pretty good, in my view [23:38] schestowitz they had burned sources, they took money from gates [23:38] schestowitz/fn they had burned sources, they took money from gates [23:38] schestowitz even while he was associating with crooks [23:38] schestowitz/fn even while he was associating with crooks [23:38] *asusbox has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:39] schestowitz and under rusbridger they already attacked assange [23:39] schestowitz/fn and under rusbridger they already attacked assange [23:39] schestowitz who had given them many good stories [23:39] schestowitz/fn who had given them many good stories [23:39] rbraun yeah but they helped out a lot with the snowden stuff [23:39] rbraun/fn yeah but they helped out a lot with the snowden stuff [23:39] rbraun and it was nowhere near the bile they've had for assange since 2015 [23:39] rbraun/fn and it was nowhere near the bile they've had for assange since 2015 [23:39] rbraun https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katharine_Viner#Appointment [23:39] rbraun/fn https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katharine_Viner#Appointment [23:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Katharine Viner - Wikipedia [23:39] TechrightsBot-tr/fn en.wikipedia.org | Katharine Viner - Wikipedia [23:39] rbraun It has been suggested by author and former Guardian columnist Michael Wolff that another of Viner's rivals to succeed Rusbridger, Janine Gibson, suffered because of internal disquiet over the internal impact on The Guardian of the Edward Snowden revelations which Gibson edited in New York. Wolff said Gibson aligned herself with Snowden, promising more of the same, while Viner "pitched decidedly ... [23:39] rbraun/fn It has been suggested by author and former Guardian columnist Michael Wolff that another of Viner's rivals to succeed Rusbridger, Janine Gibson, suffered because of internal disquiet over the internal impact on The Guardian of the Edward Snowden revelations which Gibson edited in New York. Wolff said Gibson aligned herself with Snowden, promising more of the same, while Viner "pi [23:39] rbraun/fn tched decidedly ... [23:39] rbraun ... against Gibson and, in a sense, against Snowden".[32] Peter Wilby, writing in the New Statesman, preferred a different explanation: "Viner is a more charming, more inclusive and less threatening figure than Janine Gibson, who started as the bookies and Rusbridger's favourite."[33] [23:39] rbraun/fn ... against Gibson and, in a sense, against Snowden".[32] Peter Wilby, writing in the New Statesman, preferred a different explanation: "Viner is a more charming, more inclusive and less threatening figure than Janine Gibson, who started as the bookies and Rusbridger's favourite."[33] [23:40] *asusbox has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [23:40] rbraun so, they made their bed with that ^^^ [23:40] rbraun/fn so, they made their bed with that ^^^ [23:40] rbraun now they get to lay in it [23:40] rbraun/fn now they get to lay in it [23:40] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [23:41] techrights-bot "The normal desktop/flat version? Great! Enjoy it a lot. The VR side just seems to not work on Linux. Shame but now it's using OpenXR perhaps they can work on it." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/war-thunder-qred-skiesq-brings-many-new-machines-new-locations [23:41] techrights-bot/fn "The normal desktop/flat version? Great! Enjoy it a lot. The VR side just seems to not work on Linux. Shame but now it's using OpenXR perhaps they can work on it." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/war-thunder-qred-skiesq-brings-many-new-machines-new-locations [23:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-War Thunder "Red Skies" brings many new machines and new locations | GamingOnLinux [23:41] TechrightsBot-tr/fn War Thunder "Red Skies" brings many new machines and new locations | GamingOnLinux [23:41] *asusbox (~rianne@haii6za73zabc.irc) has joined #techrights [23:42] *asusbox (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [23:42] *rianne (~rianne@haii6za73zabc.irc) has joined #techrights [23:42] *rianne (~rianne@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:f4bf:2fd3:cddc:7fb5) has joined #techrights [23:45] schestowitz rbraun: yup [23:45] schestowitz/fn rbraun: yup [23:45] schestowitz but tbh, they're not the WORST of the bunch [23:45] schestowitz/fn but tbh, they're not the WORST of the bunch [23:45] schestowitz I means, I'd rank them "middle" [23:45] schestowitz/fn I means, I'd rank them "middle" [23:46] schestowitz compared to daily fail, dun, sunday muroch times etc. [23:46] schestowitz/fn compared to daily fail, dun, sunday muroch times etc. [23:46] schestowitz *sun [23:46] schestowitz/fn *sun [23:46] rbraun oh i mean [23:46] rbraun/fn oh i mean [23:46] schestowitz this year I decided to boycott bbc [23:46] schestowitz/fn this year I decided to boycott bbc [23:46] rbraun with english media, especially tory media, it's turtles all the way down [23:46] rbraun/fn with english media, especially tory media, it's turtles all the way down [23:46] schestowitz they lie to the public [23:46] schestowitz/fn they lie to the public [23:46] schestowitz state and oligarch propaganda now [23:46] schestowitz/fn state and oligarch propaganda now [23:46] rbraun yeah the tories holding their funding hostage really did not help them stay impartial [23:46] rbraun/fn yeah the tories holding their funding hostage really did not help them stay impartial [23:47] rbraun they really need to replace the tv license fee but keep it a public broadcaster [23:47] rbraun/fn they really need to replace the tv license fee but keep it a public broadcaster [23:47] rbraun they should do something like finland and just make it a tax [23:47] rbraun/fn they should do something like finland and just make it a tax [23:47] rbraun would make them less of a political target overnight [23:47] rbraun/fn would make them less of a political target overnight [23:47] techrights-bot Today in #Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151917 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [23:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [23:47] techrights-bot/fn Today in #Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151917 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [23:47] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [23:47] rbraun staying public also means they stay free-to-air [23:47] rbraun/fn staying public also means they stay free-to-air [23:50] techrights-bot #AtariVCS #GNU #Linux -based game console hits stores June 15 for $300 and up http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151900#comment-29867 [23:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Atari VCS, Loop Hero, Thousand Lives, and Foundry VTT (Foundry Virtual Tabletop) | Tux Machines [23:50] techrights-bot/fn #AtariVCS #GNU #Linux -based game console hits stores June 15 for $300 and up http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151900#comment-29867 [23:50] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Atari VCS, Loop Hero, Thousand Lives, and Foundry VTT (Foundry Virtual Tabletop) | Tux Machines [23:51] techrights-bot #KaliLinux 2021.2 Official Release Now Available http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151834#comment-29868 [23:51] techrights-bot/fn #KaliLinux 2021.2 Official Release Now Available http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151834#comment-29868 [23:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kali Linux 2021.2 Release (Kaboxer, Kali-Tweaks, 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Blog [23:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [23:52] TechrightsBot-tr/fn blog.arduino.cc | PneuMat is an interactive shape-changing system to help ensure infants sleep safely | Arduino Blog [23:52] TechrightsBot-tr/fn schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [23:53] schestowitz rbraun: remember how they work with intel agencies [23:53] schestowitz/fn rbraun: remember how they work with intel agencies [23:53] schestowitz and boast about it [23:53] schestowitz/fn and boast about it [23:53] schestowitz d-notice and all [23:53] schestowitz/fn d-notice and all [23:53] schestowitz plus the russopjhobia [23:53] schestowitz/fn plus the russopjhobia [23:54] techrights-bot With IBM officials calling all the shots at Red Hat (like Novells CEO did, after his long #IBM career, inside SUSE) we need to think carefully of the full ramifications of old proprietary software giants taking over GNU/Linux distributors http://techrights.org/2021/06/03/red-hat-and-schizo/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tec [23:54] techrights-bot/fn With IBM officials calling all the shots at Red Hat (like Novells CEO did, after his long #IBM career, inside SUSE) we need to think carefully of the full ramifications of old proprietary software giants taking over GNU/Linux distributors http://techrights.org/2021/06/03/red-hat-and-schizo/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | [23:54] techrights-bot/fn Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tech [23:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Red Hat is Becoming Somewhat Like SUSE, Stranded Inside a Company That Doesnt Get Free Software (Pushing Proprietary Software for Money) | Techrights [23:54] TechrightsBot-tr/fn techrights.org | Red Hat is Becoming Somewhat Like SUSE, Stranded Inside a Company That Doesnt Get Free Software (Pushing Proprietary Software for Money) | Techrights [23:54] techrights-bot Clarifications about our position and response to various attempts to discredit Techrights based on fabrications, deliberate distortions, and malicious falsehoods Official Policy/Statement on IRC http://techrights.org/2021/06/03/statement-on-irc/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW #IRC | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/03/statement-on-irc/ [23:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Official Policy/Statement on IRC | Techrights [23:54] techrights-bot/fn Clarifications about our position and response to various attempts to discredit Techrights based on fabrications, deliberate distortions, and malicious falsehoods Official Policy/Statement on IRC http://techrights.org/2021/06/03/statement-on-irc/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW #IRC | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrig [23:54] techrights-bot/fn hts.org/2021/06/03/statement-on-irc/ [23:54] TechrightsBot-tr/fn techrights.org | Official Policy/Statement on IRC | Techrights [23:55] techrights-bot At the end of last year #RichardStallman gave this online talk for students at Waterloo, #Canada http://techrights.org/2021/06/03/richard-stallman-2020-talk/ #Techrights #GNU #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/03/richard-stallman-2020-talk/ [23:55] techrights-bot/fn At the end of last year #RichardStallman gave this online talk for students at Waterloo, #Canada http://techrights.org/2021/06/03/richard-stallman-2020-talk/ #Techrights #GNU #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/03/richard-stallman-2020-talk/ [23:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Richard Stallmans 2020 Talk: Why Operating Systems and Other Software Should be Free | Techrights [23:55] TechrightsBot-tr/fn techrights.org | Richard Stallmans 2020 Talk: Why Operating Systems and Other Software Should be Free | Techrights [23:58] techrights-bot "How many browsers do we need? How many ticketing systems? How many languages that all have to have a certain set of basic features to be a complete language at all? How many project management methods du jure, etc,?" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b6fzJWY#replies [23:58] techrights-bot/fn "How many browsers do we need? How many ticketing systems? How many languages that all have to have a certain set of basic features to be a complete language at all? How many project management methods du jure, etc,?" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b6fzJWY#replies [23:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | The grass is not greener anywhere? - post regarding IBM layoffs [23:58] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.thelayoff.com | The grass is not greener anywhere? - post regarding IBM layoffs [23:59] techrights-bot "Grass isnt greener but Ill tell you what is better elsewhere - your coworkers. Its incredible to finally work with motivated, competent coworkers who arent arrogant and are willing to learn new things." #ibm #layoffs #braindrain #morale https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b6fzJWY#replies [23:59] techrights-bot/fn "Grass isnt greener but Ill tell you what is better elsewhere - your coworkers. Its incredible to finally work with motivated, competent coworkers who arent arrogant and are willing to learn new things." #ibm #layoffs #braindrain #morale https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b6fzJWY#replies