●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, October 03, 2022 ●● ● Oct 03 [00:08] psydruid embalmed human thighs ready for consumption by a cannibalistic developer advocate [00:09] schestowitz[TR] no, I am referring to the video here vvv [00:09] TR News GNU/Linux and the GPL in Particular Are Under Attack Because They Spread Fast (Like a Cancer) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/02/gnu-and-gpl-spread-fast/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/02/gnu-and-gpl-spread-fast/ [00:09] TR Bot GNU/Linux and the GPL in Particular Are Under Attack Because They Spread Fast (Like a Cancer) | Techrights [00:09] schestowitz[TR] imagine ther reaction [00:09] schestowitz[TR] if RMS did this [00:09] schestowitz[TR] RMS stares at people [00:09] schestowitz[TR] because of a condition [00:09] schestowitz[TR] and maybe the cancel mob wants to electrocute him for it [00:10] schestowitz[TR] meanwhile, balmer molests men [00:10] schestowitz[TR] and you can see the men's arms [00:10] schestowitz[TR] they're like, leaving me alone creep [00:10] schestowitz[TR] but he's their boss [00:10] schestowitz[TR] so they must be careful [00:10] schestowitz[TR] mjg59_ does not mind [00:10] schestowitz[TR] he's preying on thw weak [00:10] psydruid "consumption" as in squeezing them [00:11] schestowitz[TR] the cance mob set up no petiotion [00:11] schestowitz[TR] to cance;l Ballmer [00:11] schestowitz[TR] he stil runs the team [00:11] schestowitz[TR] and mollests men there [00:11] schestowitz[TR] maybe Connie does not satisfy him [00:11] schestowitz[TR] so he goes for young men [00:11] schestowitz[TR] who he controls in ther workplace [00:11] psydruid "cannibalistic" as in being a little bit too touchy-feely in an uncomfortable way [00:11] schestowitz[TR] no github petitionm about it from elana Hamasman, MinceR, Bully, and McGovern [00:12] schestowitz[TR] oops [00:12] schestowitz[TR] not mincer [00:12] schestowitz[TR] wrong autocomplete [00:12] schestowitz[TR] spyware is good [00:12] psydruid MinceR and Bully the Vampire Enabler [00:12] schestowitz[TR] gpl violations OK [00:12] schestowitz[TR] microsoft is trust [00:12] schestowitz[TR] security is back doors [00:13] schestowitz[TR] join us know and share the entryism [00:13] schestowitz[TR] in EFF, FSF, and more [00:13] schestowitz[TR] *join us now [00:13] schestowitz[TR] Vampire Slayer [00:13] schestowitz[TR] Sarah Michelle Gellar [00:14] schestowitz[TR] the troll's partner was born Sarah Michelle [00:14] schestowitz[TR] and for decades he was saying "transphobic shit" [00:14] MinceR lol [00:14] MinceR 03 010846 < psydruid> embalmed human thighs ready for consumption by a cannibalistic developer advocate [00:14] MinceR wouldn't those be toxic? [00:14] MinceR due to the embalming fluid(s) [00:15] schestowitz[TR] "we,, he's dead" [00:15] schestowitz[TR] Steve/: "let's EMBALM him" [00:16] schestowitz[TR] you could mash up [00:16] schestowitz[TR] death og Bill Gatesd Sr. [00:16] schestowitz[TR] and then his son saying [00:16] schestowitz[TR] "well,m he's dead" [00:16] schestowitz[TR] with the cold-faced banality [00:16] schestowitz[TR] "He [Bill Gates] is divisive. He is manipulative. He is a user. He has taken much from me and the industry." [00:16] schestowitz[TR] Gary Kildall [00:16] MinceR (cat) https://i.imgur.com/dM0t8LE.jpeg [00:17] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:17] psydruid the toxicity is part of the grand plan to kill free software by taking out its developers [00:17] schestowitz[TR] MinceR: that's a strange-looking dog [00:17] psydruid just squeeze them until there is no one left [00:18] schestowitz[TR] yeha [00:18] schestowitz[TR] but there was a reaction to this [00:18] schestowitz[TR] and now we extinguish the monopoly tradually [00:18] MinceR schestowitz[TR]: it's not. observe the tag. [00:18] schestowitz[TR] but bailout biden and cheeto nazi keep bailing out the criminals [00:18] schestowitz[TR] but giving them "defence" money [00:18] schestowitz[TR] to "save" the S&P '500' [00:18] DaemonFC https://www.businessinsider.com/apple-exec-tony-blevins-departs-following-tiktok-video-2022-9 [00:18] TR Bot Apple Exec Tony Blevins Departs After Crass Joke in TikTok Video [00:18] schestowitz[TR] which is like 20% GAFAM [00:18] DaemonFC "An Apple executive is leaving the company after being filmed joking about fondling 'big-breasted women' in a viral TikTok video" [00:18] schestowitz[TR] Apple will collapse soon [00:19] schestowitz[TR] the sales are collapsing [00:19] schestowitz[TR] they craft new BS stories or excuses [00:19] DaemonFC Matthew "I made fun of trannies but that was like 20 years ago and now I attack people for it" Garrett should chime in. [00:19] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: they need to pretend they're otp a company of pervert [00:19] DaemonFC mjg59_: What do you think of yet another BIGBOOBIES scandal at a major tech company? [00:19] schestowitz[TR] like Steve thighthigh [00:20] DaemonFC Did you make BIGBOOBIES jokes 20 years ago? [00:20] psydruid govermind criminals siding with corporate criminals against citizens [00:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [00:20] psydruid who would have though that was even possible [00:20] psydruid thought* [00:20] psydruid /s [00:20] psydruid government* [00:22] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: give him a break, he ws a kid at the time [00:22] schestowitz[TR] 25+ year old with phd [00:22] schestowitz[TR] he was just a child [00:22] psydruid "More fun or less fun for trannies?" [00:22] schestowitz[TR] manchild [00:22] DaemonFC mjg59_ is having tranny problems. [00:22] DaemonFC Must have bought a Chevy. [00:23] TR News very good news for Linux http://techrights.org/2022/10/02/microsoft-windows-new-low/ [00:23] TR Bot Windows Majority in Asia Down to Just Three Countries, All-time Low for Windows Worldwide This Month | Techrights [00:23] TR News Who profits from "Linux"? PEOPLE WHO DO NOT EVEN USE IT!! http://techrights.org/2022/10/01/pseudo-charitable-front-group/ [00:23] TR Bot Linux Foundation, While Hoarding Over $200,000,000 Per Year, Calls Itself Non-Profit | Techrights [00:24] DaemonFC They can really get their printing costs under control with the owner's manuals these days. [00:24] DaemonFC 35,000 miles - First Service - Replace entire $60,000 car. [00:25] TR News Zemlin isn't selling Linux. He's SELLING OUT Linux. Like handing it over to LINUX FOES in exchange for money... for them to give it a butcher's treatment (e.g. VMware and Microsoft GPL violations). [00:25] TR News Slippery Singapore gemini://freeshell.de/f1/2022-10-03_Slippery_Singapore.gmi [00:26] DaemonFC Remember when owner's manuals assumed you might keep the car for 250,000 miles or so and that's where the recommended service interval stopped? [00:27] schestowitz[TR] car become less appealing [00:27] schestowitz[TR] they will not be sold in quantity [00:27] schestowitz[TR] so quality too will sink [00:28] schestowitz[TR] no mass production like decades ago [00:28] schestowitz[TR] and prices soar [00:28] schestowitz[TR] and reliability be so crap that few will actually WISH to buy them [00:28] schestowitz[TR] from "too many moving parts" [00:28] schestowitz[TR] to "too many computers" [00:28] schestowitz[TR] you cannot fix a computer by just "moving" it [00:28] schestowitz[TR] you need to replace whole boasrs [00:29] schestowitz[TR] made in another country [00:29] schestowitz[TR] no wrentch but invoice and transmission [00:29] schestowitz[TR] wretch [00:29] schestowitz[TR] imagine this going on for 20-30 years [00:30] schestowitz[TR] you talk about something like installing in you car a pre-pentium PC [00:30] schestowitz[TR] in 2022 [00:30] TR News The current policy isnt working. People are ill and they get poor (theres also Long COVID-19, which few wish to speak about). https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/02/208000-british-death/ [00:30] TR Bot Blog Archive Almost 3 Years After Breakout, 208,000 British Deaths Linked to COVID-19 [00:31] TR News The decline of Microsoft Windows continues; sooner or later Android (Linux inside) will be dominant in almost every country in terms of its market share or number of users http://techrights.org/2022/10/02/microsoft-windows-new-low/ [00:31] TR Bot Windows Majority in Asia Down to Just Three Countries, All-time Low for Windows Worldwide This Month | Techrights [00:31] TR News The good news is that GNU/Linux continues to expand (widespread usage); the bad news is, it has come under a sheer magnitude of attacks and the media barely bothers to mention the obvious http://techrights.org/2022/10/02/gnu-and-gpl-spread-fast/ [00:31] TR Bot GNU/Linux and the GPL in Particular Are Under Attack Because They Spread Fast (Like a Cancer) | Techrights [00:34] TR News GNU/Linux and the GPL in Particular Are Under Attack Because They Spread Fast (Like a Cancer) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/02/gnu-and-gpl-spread-fast/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/02/gnu-and-gpl-spread-fast/ [00:37] highest_cubist_thrills imagine this going on for 20-30 years <- i can imagine it going on for 11 [00:38] highest_cubist_thrills 20 if you count the halloween documents [00:38] highest_cubist_thrills are we talking about the newfsf or the old open sleaze [00:38] schestowitz[TR] it's muteFSF [00:38] schestowitz[TR] it's there [00:38] schestowitz[TR] but does not say much [00:39] schestowitz[TR] vry passive tbh [00:39] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #techrights [00:39] schestowitz[TR] rms stares at people = ewww. creep! [00:40] highest_cubist_thrills if you can dodge a wrench you can dodge a software update [00:40] schestowitz[TR] ballmer molests men, with his bare hands = lol, those rich people... [00:40] highest_cubist_thrills ballmer molests men, with his bare hands = lol, those rich people... <- im not crazy, jack [00:40] schestowitz[TR] "don't wannt be a monkey wrench"=balmmer [00:40] highest_cubist_thrills "POOR PEOPLE are crazy" [00:40] highest_cubist_thrills "im ECCENTRIC!" [00:41] schestowitz[TR] Das U-Blog by Prashanth: Book Review: "From the War on Poverty to the War on Crime" by Elizabeth Hinton https://dasublogbyprashanth.blogspot.com/2022/09/book-review-from-war-on-poverty-to-war.html | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//dasublogbyprashanth.blogspot.com/2022/09/book-review-from-war-on-poverty-to-war.html [00:41] TR Bot Das U-Blog by Prashanth: Book Review: "From the War on Poverty to the War on Crime" by Elizabeth Hinton [00:41] schestowitz[TR] being poor is a crime [00:41] schestowitz[TR] rich=campaign contriobution [00:41] schestowitz[TR] otherwise, "shoplifter" [00:41] highest_cubist_thrills can ballmer rub peoples thighs at lieplanet? [00:41] schestowitz[TR] yes [00:42] schestowitz[TR] and if they throw eggs they get arrested [00:42] schestowitz[TR] but he can grab their eggs [00:42] schestowitz[TR] and bribe hungarian officers [00:42] schestowitz[TR] whose oficer were raided by authorities btw [00:42] schestowitz[TR] *offices [00:42] highest_cubist_thrills whose oficer were raided by authorities btw <- which distro is that [00:43] schestowitz[TR] "tough on crime" became "tough on poor people" [00:43] highest_cubist_thrills probably a spin of microsoft linucks [00:43] schestowitz[TR] those who use the term are cops [00:43] schestowitz[TR] they don't deal with white-dollar crimes [00:43] schestowitz[TR] *collar [00:43] highest_cubist_thrills "tough on crime" became "tough on poor people" <- pretty much always like this [00:43] highest_cubist_thrills now moreso, but stil [00:44] schestowitz[TR] more tax breaks on the rich [00:44] schestowitz[TR] lax on the rich [00:44] schestowitz[TR] legialising tax crimes [00:44] schestowitz[TR] tough on tax :-) [00:44] schestowitz[TR] make it lax [00:45] highest_cubist_thrills thighs need wax? [00:45] highest_cubist_thrills ballmers back! [00:46] schestowitz[TR] who said sit down!!?? [00:47] schestowitz[TR] he left them alone after they used their arms to get him off their thigh area [00:47] schestowitz[TR] befroe he's too much in upper inner [00:47] schestowitz[TR] "egg attack" [00:47] highest_cubist_thrills they made a three point goal-- it was a sweet surprise [00:47] schestowitz[TR] https://www.informationweek.com/operating-systems/microsoft-s-ballmer-escapes-egg-attack [00:47] highest_cubist_thrills ballmer is always bold-- theyve got bette davis thighs! [00:47] TR Bot Microsoft's Ballmer Escapes Egg Attack [00:47] schestowitz[TR] "Escapes" [00:47] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR]: The good news is that my ABS hasn't randomly malfunctioned. [00:48] DaemonFC So it was the ABS module and not something much more serious than that. [00:48] schestowitz[TR] https://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/mediatechnologyandtelecoms/2790350/Microsofts-Steve-Ballmer-dodges-egg-attack.html [00:48] TR Bot Microsoft's Steve Ballmer dodges egg attack [00:48] schestowitz[TR] https://www.stuff.co.nz/archived-stuff-sections/games-old-mirror/473827/Now-anyone-can-throw-eggs-at-Microsoft-chief [00:48] TR Bot anyone can throw eggs at Microsoft chief | Stuff.co.nz [00:48] schestowitz[TR] site offline http://www.egg-attack.com/ [00:48] TR Bot NameBright - Coming Soon [00:49] highest_cubist_thrills eggggsellent [00:52] highest_cubist_thrills site offline http://www.egg-attack.com/ <- they could modify the kill bill game [00:52] highest_cubist_thrills egg ballmer [00:52] highest_cubist_thrills someone made a version with lennart [00:53] DaemonFC Today was "chemicals day" at the store. They're pushing big rebates hard to keep branded consumables going. [00:55] DaemonFC 09/29/2022 - 58,203 mi. [00:55] DaemonFC Vehicle serviced Brake system bled ABS module replaced [00:56] DaemonFC Those GM ABS modules were infamous for going bad. My mechanic says age usually kills them before mileage does. He said expect them to go out every 10 years or so. [00:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 12.16 k/sec., IPFS upstream 117.21 average k/sec., average swarm size 136.58 ● Oct 03 [01:02] DaemonFC https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/308860535_1523916064758042_7392765313570152380_n.jpg?stp=cp0_dst-jpg_e15_fr_q65&_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8024bb&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=6RfQKQnGE7gAX_Ubbx8&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-2.xx&oh=00_AT8mGZB3zdGKnnEPPTIfM4e-JWpdDW0NhG-dQNQo2gFT5A&oe=633F6995 [01:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. 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HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-021022.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-021022.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-021022.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-021022.txt [02:42] TR Bot IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, October 02, 2022 [02:44] TR News Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-10-02.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-10-02.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now) [02:47] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.14 [SeaMonkey 2.53.14/20221001165941]) [02:48] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@6vjj4ykdcjqgc.irc) has joined #techrights [02:49] DaemonFC Okay, there's an upcoming build of SeaMonkey now that fixes the NoScript crashing I think. [02:49] DaemonFC I'll have to test this and see what happens. [02:53] DaemonFC https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/10/02/exclusive-darren-bailey-within-striking-distance-as-illinois-governors-race-tightens-voters-ready-for-change/?fbclid=IwAR2Ak1k3I-J07wEL0fonSQau5486B6_Pnad1Ygne9BlUIEqjVUzeHynCLPU [02:54] TR Bot Exclusive: Darren Bailey Within Striking Distance as Illinois Governor's Race Tightens [02:54] DaemonFC "In August, he slammed the states SAFE-T (Safety, Accountability, Fairness and Equity-Today) Act that will end cash bail in Illinois and limit the use of force that police officers are permitted to use. [02:54] DaemonFC The new law, passed by Democrats, will free from jail thousands of suspects accused of second-degree murder, kidnapping, burglary, robbery, and other violent crimes." [02:55] DaemonFC Pretty much. It gives the prosecutor a high burden because they have to prove to a judge, who might be a Democrat and doesn't have to explain themselves and will probably be on the court for life, that the suspect is a clear and present danger to an identifiable person and they have to do that at a hearing, which has to be within 72 hours of an arrest. [02:56] DaemonFC Otherwise, the police have to release you on a personal recognizance bond, which basically just means most people will sign it and go back to killing and raping and not show up for their trial. [02:57] DaemonFC "If elected to office, Bailey said he would repeal the law, which is slated to take effect in January." [02:57] DaemonFC He can't. There's no plausible situation where he gets into office with a legislature that will do as he says. [02:58] DaemonFC About the only thing he could do is appoint new judges that have promised to lock up violent offenders using their discretion that the law gives them, but that doesn't happen overnight. [02:58] DaemonFC The only ways a judge loses their office is if they are convicted of a crime, die, fail a retention vote, or get impeached. [02:59] DaemonFC The law kicks in in January and will basically ensure a crime wave that sweeps the entire state. [02:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 12.08 k/sec., IPFS upstream 177.95 average k/sec., average swarm size 131.91 [02:59] DaemonFC The same so-called reform package makes it harder to charge murder accomplices and allows for anonymous and unsworn complaints to be filed against law enforcement officers, he said. ● Oct 03 [03:00] DaemonFC That's true, but it also doesn't require the Internal Affairs department to act on those complaints. [03:00] DaemonFC And the officer you complain of will know it was you if you leave any identifying information in the complaint, which basically means that the complaint won't go anywhere, but now you have cop(s) with a grudge against you, who may see you around town and invent things to harass you with further. [03:01] DaemonFC "He also slammed Pritzker and Lightfoot for the increase in violent crime in Chicago and throughout the state by taking away tools for law enforcement officials to use against criminals." [03:01] bagira im actually amazed illinois hasn't collapsed into various gang-run territories at this point, they just keep getting worse [03:02] DaemonFC Most of those "tools" were basically police bullshit. Like, they want to stop you and check your car, so they say you had fuzzy dice on your rearview mirror. [03:02] DaemonFC bagiraim actually amazed illinois hasn't collapsed into various gang-run territories at this point, they just keep getting worse [03:02] DaemonFC Parts of it have. [03:02] IPFS Gemini requests since start of month: 9546 total Total number of pages in capsule: 42849 Active: active (running) since Thu 2022-08-04 09:15:14 BST; 1 months 29 days ago [03:02] DaemonFC Chicago only has enough police to enforce the law in less than half the city, so some neighborhoods have 2-3 hour response times for 911 now. [03:03] DaemonFC There's a couple of cities that would file bankruptcy, but they can't because Illinois doesn't allow it, so they fired all of the police and firefighters because the state intercepted their tax money to pay pensions for cops and firefighters they used to have. [03:03] IPFS IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 64 GB TotalOut: 17 GB [03:04] bagira schestowitz: After a great deal of back and forth, I'm able and willing to speak out about Frank Gingras stalking me and my family for several years if you'd like to do an interview. [03:04] IPFS New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled. [03:04] DaemonFC Illinois is getting ready to collapse. [03:05] DaemonFC The only reason it didn't during the entirely avoidable COVID "crisis" was because it took bailout loans from the Federal Reserve. [03:05] DaemonFC The state was the only one to do it because the rest of the states can get loans at rates lower than what Russia pays. [03:05] DaemonFC So no reason to use the Fed's "State and Municipal Liquidity" program. [03:06] bagira schestowitz I am also able to confirm that the Apache Software Foundation was made aware of the issue at a conference several years ago and took no action. [03:07] bagira schestowitz for context, Frank Gingras is associated with the Apache project and is their "main guy" on their official IRC channels, and was at one point heavily associated with the Slackware community. [03:18] *bagira (~phanes@vdaaabp6wfeza.irc) has left #techrights (Leaving) [03:18] *bagira (~phanes@vdaaabp6wfeza.irc) has joined #techrights [03:18] DaemonFC https://wgntv.com/news/nexstar-media-wire/supreme-court-to-hear-case-that-could-have-massive-impact-on-us-water-quality/?fbclid=IwAR2VG1fPBiP0RZ4EJqRFe1zFrQpD_sbd9sAc1PjSoSzYxSI6s_X2n38BXYI [03:18] TR Bot Supreme Court to hear case that could have massive impact on US water quality | WGN-TV [03:19] DaemonFC I liked how in Ghostbusters, the guy who actually causes the disaster at the end of the movie is from the Environmental Protection Agency. [03:19] DaemonFC And he shuts down the Ghostbusters' "confinement grid" without knowing what he's even doing just because Peter Venkman slighted him. [03:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [03:20] DaemonFC The movie accidentally made a good point. [03:20] DaemonFC The government is stacked with people who don't know what they're doing and are on a major power trip and should never have gotten where they're at. :) [03:20] DaemonFC MinceR: ^ [03:27] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:30] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has left #techrights (Leaving.) [03:40] bagira https://phanes.silogroup.org/frank-gingras-is-a-former-stalker-of-mine/ [03:40] TR Bot Frank Gingras is a Former Stalker of Mine Phanes' Canon [03:58] DaemonFC https://www.npr.org/2022/09/30/1126207614/trevor-noah-daily-show-late-night-tv-comedy-central [03:58] TR Bot Trevor Noah leaves 'The Daily Show' a hint at deeper problems in late night TV : NPR [03:58] *gde33 (~gde33@84-106-154-98.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) has joined #techrights [03:58] DaemonFC After ruining The Daily Show, Trevor Noah is leaving. [03:58] *techrightsalpine4 has quit (connection closed) [03:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 18.91 k/sec., IPFS upstream 91.35 average k/sec., average swarm size 142.60 ● Oct 03 [04:12] *eidolon (~eidolon@f6kehdj2447n8.irc) has joined #techrights [04:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. 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Including an entirely new GUI shell, except.....the old one is there too so things that expect it don't break. [04:38] DaemonFC You just can't see it. [04:39] DaemonFC To people who go "Well, yeah, but....compatibility...." No *nix desktop environment includes the last two versions as well for "compatibility". GNOME 4 doesn't include GNOME 3 and GNOME 2 running but hidden. [04:41] DaemonFC Only in 2019 did Microsoft purge the last remnants of Outlook Express, which hadn't even done anything as a functional program since Windows XP. [04:41] DaemonFC Only in 2021 did they remove syskey.exe, which is from Windows NT 4, iirc, because tech support scammers were using it to lock you computer and demand money. [04:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 36.03 k/sec., IPFS upstream 121.31 average k/sec., average swarm size 137.53 ● Oct 03 [05:00] *horseface (~horseface@9ucczhkmm895g.irc) has joined #techrights [05:03] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [05:03] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [05:08] bagira windows is going to try to pivot to be a linux company [05:08] bagira MSFT is i mean [05:08] starstreak its phanes! [05:09] bagira it is i [05:09] highest_cubist_thrills windows is going to try to pivot to be a linux company <- the only thing i dont like about this is [05:09] starstreak Microsoft Linucks 24.04 LTS, with edge and powershell [05:09] highest_cubist_thrills people are going to say "thats why theyre taking shit over. because THEY HAVE NO CHOICE" [05:10] bagira they are trying to maximize control of what distros can be installed and then inject themselves so far into the kernel that it's basically a msft os [05:10] highest_cubist_thrills which is fine, except then theyre like [05:10] highest_cubist_thrills "so they wont fuck it up..." [05:10] highest_cubist_thrills oh yeah? what did they do to windows? RIGHT, okay. [05:10] bagira tarvolds is drunk at the wheel though and won't see it coming [05:10] highest_cubist_thrills the microsoft model is breaking everything, then selling people a broom and dustpan. [05:10] bagira he's checked out [05:11] bagira so [05:11] bagira f/oss will not be a on linux kernel in the future [05:11] bagira i dont know what kernel it _will_ center around, but it won't be linux at some point [05:12] highest_cubist_thrills tarvolds is drunk at the wheel <- lawrence lessig has a clip of the guy steering the exxon valdeez before it spilled [05:12] highest_cubist_thrills lets just say he was tanked. [05:12] highest_cubist_thrills on a tanker. [05:12] highest_cubist_thrills hes calling in on the radio [05:12] highest_cubist_thrills and he sounds completely out of it [05:12] bagira i dont mean that he has a drinking problem i mean he's not resisting corporate infection of the kernel anymore [05:12] starstreak i use arch btw [05:12] highest_cubist_thrills but it won't be linux at some point <- even hurd was based on bsd [05:13] bagira he either sees it and doesn't care or or he doesn't see it because he's not paying attention or thinking strategically (have they found his blind spot?) [05:13] highest_cubist_thrills thats why they call it bsd [05:13] highest_cubist_thrills because its (b)a(s)e(d) [05:13] bagira i dont think bsd is ever going to be much more than it is [05:13] highest_cubist_thrills what would it need to be [05:14] bagira i dont know [05:14] highest_cubist_thrills also im just talking about the kernel [05:14] highest_cubist_thrills i mean bsd has a forkable kernel [05:15] highest_cubist_thrills linux not so much [05:15] bagira what i fear due to no visible emerging contender is that msft will just gradually infect linux further until everything is running MSFT Linux [05:15] highest_cubist_thrills is that msft will just gradually infect linux further until everything is running MSFT Linux <- i think we are already there [05:15] highest_cubist_thrills it will just get worse and more obvious and blatant [05:15] bagira no not even close [05:15] bagira but yes it will get worse and more obvious and blatant [05:15] highest_cubist_thrills does openbsd have microsoft edge? <- yeah by default. gnome too [05:16] highest_cubist_thrills pkg_add monodevelop [05:16] bagira the problem isn't just msft infection of linux [05:16] bagira the problem is that they have corrupted the talent pool to create conteners [05:16] bagira *contenders [05:16] highest_cubist_thrills stackoverflow.com/questions/73870369/view-my-website-on-edge-and-safari-browsers-only [05:16] highest_cubist_thrills That is, it can only be view on EDGE and SAFARI Browsers alone. How do i achieve that? javascript. php. html. sql. cpanel. [05:16] bagira you aren't going to see indie projects prop up with viable performant kernels that can compete with linux [05:17] highest_cubist_thrills competing with windows never took us anywhere good imo [05:17] highest_cubist_thrills competing with linux wont either [05:17] highest_cubist_thrills no point being indepedent if we have to play by their rules anyway [05:18] starstreak im looking forward to the new version of Gnome Web, it uses firefox extensions [05:18] highest_cubist_thrills holwerdas funniest article ever. april 1? [05:18] highest_cubist_thrills Microsoft Edge is becoming the browser you didn't know you needed [05:18] highest_cubist_thrills www.osnews.com/story/131612/microsoft-edge-is-becoming-the-browser-you-didnt-know-you-needed/ [05:18] bagira no [05:18] bagira i mean [05:19] bagira there won't be any independent projects [05:19] highest_cubist_thrills theyre certianly working on it. [05:19] bagira i mean there will be some smaller projects here and there, but "this boom" can't bereproduced [05:19] highest_cubist_thrills free software is dead anyway [05:19] bagira because they've alienated or purchased any conceivable talent that would and could [05:19] highest_cubist_thrills i mean the fake version is still kicking [05:19] highest_cubist_thrills because they've alienated or purchased any conceivable talent that would and co <- yep [05:20] highest_cubist_thrills and some of the talentless too [05:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [05:20] highest_cubist_thrills starstreak: i honestly tried to find ANYTHING about edge and openbsd [05:21] highest_cubist_thrills i got nothing. i think the search engine is actually making up results and laughing at me. [05:21] highest_cubist_thrills did you mean: red vs blue smurfs crossover series? [05:21] starstreak i dont think openbsd has any chrome based browser, so its a fail [05:22] highest_cubist_thrills yes, theo de raadt should just open a pizza place or something [05:22] highest_cubist_thrills "we use stuffed crust because it increases the attack surface for more flavour!" [05:23] starstreak attack surface btw [05:23] highest_cubist_thrills "we create research pizza for our own purposes. we dont really care if anyone likes our pizza or not" [05:23] highest_cubist_thrills "we created stuff crust as a mitigation, now other pizza places have adopted it" [05:24] highest_cubist_thrills "we were the first pizza place to put the little plastic table in the box so you didnt get cheese all over the lid. i was pretty proud of that one." [05:25] highest_cubist_thrills "we also created the insulated pizza carrier so pizzas remained hot when they came to your door" [05:25] highest_cubist_thrills "the only thing we didnt invent was pizza itself. some italian guy got there first" [05:26] highest_cubist_thrills "we take no credit for the use of ham and pineapple-- those are not mitigations, they are exploits" [05:27] highest_cubist_thrills gnome has three kinds of hawaiian pizza [05:27] highest_cubist_thrills in gnome 3 the pizza is hawaiian by default [05:27] highest_cubist_thrills everyone hated it and they said "fuck you, youre going to eat hawaiian pizza and youll fucking like it" [05:29] highest_cubist_thrills mjg pointed out that the guy that invented pizza was a misogynist and ableist [05:29] highest_cubist_thrills also long dead but its not too late to cancel him. i mean he still gets credit for inventing pizza [05:30] highest_cubist_thrills at this point people need to understand that pizza only exists because of countless groups of people, not just one guy [05:31] highest_cubist_thrills which of course is true in a way. [05:31] highest_cubist_thrills i mean the guy that invented pizza didnt even think to put cheese on it ffs [05:32] highest_cubist_thrills until a guy named linnos torvallini decided he was going to make pizza [05:32] highest_cubist_thrills only he didnt call it pizza, he called it torvallini. then he got bought out by papa johns. [05:34] highest_cubist_thrills https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_pizza [05:34] TR Bot History of pizza - Wikipedia [05:34] highest_cubist_thrills according to wikipedia, pizza was invented by roy schestowitz in 2006 [05:35] highest_cubist_thrills "Pizza Rolls were first invented by Jeno Paulucci in 1968. His company also named Jeno's Pizza Rolls was the official owner up until he sold the business to Pillsbury who later changed the name to Totino's. Pizza Rolls were first created by replacing the contents of an egg roll with pizza toppings." [05:38] highest_cubist_thrills https://yewtu.be/watch?v=h6XvMKdD2tY [05:38] TR Bot 500 Year-Old Pizza VS Today - Invidious [05:39] starstreak comic: https://i.imgur.com/T1S3Nco.jpg [05:39] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has joined #techrights [05:39] highest_cubist_thrills rofl [05:40] highest_cubist_thrills til dishwashing gloves arent enough to stop the tap water from turning frogs gay [05:41] highest_cubist_thrills https://yewtu.be/watch?v=h6XvMKdD2tY <- 00:00:25 robert california goes back centuries in italy [05:41] highest_cubist_thrills how did they know james spader would end up looking like that though [05:44] highest_cubist_thrills https://i.ibb.co/YTxXjbV/james-spader-fresco.jpg [05:54] TR News #Techrights Bulletin for Sunday, October 02, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [05:54] TR Bot Bulletin Archives [05:54] TR News #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [05:54] TR Bot Techrights Full IPFS Index [05:58] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR]: Yeah, they're talking about Credit Suisse failing now, but no worries. [05:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.15 k/sec., IPFS upstream 59.86 average k/sec., average swarm size 143.60 ● Oct 03 [06:01] DaemonFC Well, you know.... [06:02] DaemonFC You launder money for cocaine traffickers......You finance terrorism.....You tell hedge funds you do business with to destroy evidence of the loans to Russian oligarchs that you backed.... [06:02] DaemonFC Banking! [06:02] TR News Craving a game gemini://xiu.smol.pub/1664730725 [06:03] TR News I should learn Russian gemini://sud0nim.smol.pub/i-should-learn-russian [06:03] TR News [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D372.jpg [06:04] TR News Kale goes to gemspace gemini://kalechips.smol.pub/2022-10-02-first [06:04] TR News "I'll also probably be talking about everything Linux/FOSS, gaming, the small web and what not." gemini://djpro.smol.pub/first-post [06:05] TR News [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D717.jpg [06:10] TR News "Josh and Kurt talk about a blog post that explains there isnt really an open source software supply chain. The whole idea of open source being one thing is incorrect, open source is really a lot of little things put together. A lot of companies and organizations get this wrong." https://opensourcesecurity.io/2022/10/02/episode-343-stop-trying-to-fix-the-open-source-software-supply-chain/ [06:10] TR Bot Episode 343 Stop trying to fix the open source software supply chain Open Source Security [06:13] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR]: Mozilla is trying to cram Clang down everyone's throats. [06:13] schestowitz[TR] mozilla has no respect for boundaries [06:13] schestowitz[TR] keeps shoving ads [06:13] DaemonFC They're trying to drop a bunch of patches in Skia that make it perform well when built with GCC. [06:14] schestowitz[TR] firefox became malicious software [06:14] schestowitz[TR] maybe gulag told moz that gpl is bad [06:14] schestowitz[TR] and moz has to nod [06:14] schestowitz[TR] for baker to keep robbing the org [06:15] highest_cubist_thrills mozilla has no respect for boundaries <- mozilla was invented in 1602 in naples as a way to funnel money from the papacy to the mob [06:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [06:21] highest_cubist_thrills firefox became malicious software <- and mozilla became a not-for-profit-for-profit [06:21] highest_cubist_thrills like the fsf [06:21] highest_cubist_thrills well, at least osi [06:21] highest_cubist_thrills the fsf merely ADVOCATES stealing free software and handing control to corporations that hate user freedom [06:22] highest_cubist_thrills osi is the militant wing of the salvation army [06:23] highest_cubist_thrills ibms take on open source goes back to the early 20th century when work camps used forced labour and "terminated" anyone not useful to the state and corporations [06:24] highest_cubist_thrills it turns out when you dont pay your workers and you murder them when they take ill or get injured, profits go way up [06:24] highest_cubist_thrills just one of many innovations from big blue brother [06:25] highest_cubist_thrills along with gas chambers as a retirement package [06:25] highest_cubist_thrills "it also removes lice from clothing!" [06:26] highest_cubist_thrills "i mean we didnt invent that. we just streamlined it by not having them take the clothes off first" [06:29] highest_cubist_thrills anyone else think its interesting that ibms trademark colour is similar to prussian blue? [06:29] highest_cubist_thrills https://www.timesofisrael.com/is-holocaust-art-possible-a-murderous-shade-of-blue-is-one-painters-answer/ [06:29] TR Bot Is Holocaust art possible? A murderous shade of blue is one painter's answer | The Times of Israel [06:29] highest_cubist_thrills "The Prussian blue-tinted stains sometimes found on gas chamber walls are from the compound ferrocyanide, a byproduct of the Zyklon B gas" [06:30] highest_cubist_thrills maybe they should be called zbm [06:30] highest_cubist_thrills zyklon b machines [06:30] highest_cubist_thrills zyklon b murderers [06:32] highest_cubist_thrills https://yewtu.be/watch?v=US-KcZbZGUk [06:32] TR Bot Getting started with IBM Blueworks Live: an introduction - Invidious [06:33] highest_cubist_thrills https://yewtu.be/watch?v=zfLVvk7CjY4 <- ibm blue cloud [06:33] TR Bot IBM Blue Cloud is Ready-to-Use Cloud Computing - Invidious [06:33] highest_cubist_thrills "dont worry, this time our blue cloud doesnt contain ferrocyanide!" [06:34] highest_cubist_thrills https://yewtu.be/watch?v=zpIdUNDSIGM [06:34] TR Bot IBM Blue Lightning 486 DX2 class PC - Invidious [06:34] highest_cubist_thrills ibm blue lightning-- what, like the ss insignia? [06:37] highest_cubist_thrills https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_386SLC#IBM_486BL_(Blue_Lightning) [06:37] TR Bot IBM 386SLC - Wikipedia [06:38] highest_cubist_thrills "whether its millions of transistors or millions of jews, ibm is working towards a better future for everyone. except maybe jews." [06:39] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR]: It gets harder and harder to build Firefox with GCC. [06:39] DaemonFC I think sooner or later, it will get a build exception from fesco. [06:39] TR News (NEW): Regolith Is the Perfect Introduction to Tiling Window Managers on Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Regolith_Is_the_Perfect_Introduction_to_Tiling_Window_Managers_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Regolith_Is_the_Perfect_Introduction_to_Tiling_Window_Managers_.gmi [06:39] TR Bot Tux Machines Regolith Is the Perfect Introduction to Tiling Window Managers on Linux [06:39] DaemonFC It's not like IBM is a huge fan of the GPL. [06:39] highest_cubist_thrills "IBM later marketed Socket 3 168-pin PGA Blue Lightning 486 CPUs, but these are technically not related to earlier Blue Lightning models as they are based on the Cyrix Cx486 CPU core. They can be distinguished by the inclusion of a "DX" (or DX2, DX4) legend somewhere on the label" [06:39] schestowitz[TR] http://techrights.org/2020/06/04/tired-of-rms-winning/ [06:39] TR Bot Red Hat/IBM Got Tired of RMS. Is It Getting Tired of GPL/Copyleft Too? | Techrights [06:40] DaemonFC The main reason they kept building with GCC is because Clang was missing proper support for some of the security hardening that Fedora uses and generates useless debug symbols.. [06:40] highest_cubist_thrills https://techrights.org/2020/11/17/real-rms/ [06:40] TR Bot The Real Richard Stallman is Not Coming Back | Techrights [06:40] highest_cubist_thrills /me checke watch and calendar [06:41] highest_cubist_thrills any day now [06:41] DaemonFC I wonder what mjg59_ Failed Biologist Extraordinaire thinks about turning off security to make Firefox build with Clang. [06:41] highest_cubist_thrills https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Coming [06:41] TR Bot Second Coming - Wikipedia [06:42] TR News (NEW): Review: SpiralLinux 11.220628 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Review_SpiralLinux_11_220628.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Review_SpiralLinux_11_220628.gmi [06:42] TR Bot Tux Machines Review: SpiralLinux 11.220628 [06:43] highest_cubist_thrills https://github.com/WRainbow1/crown-of-thorns [06:43] TR Bot - WRainbow1/crown-of-thorns [06:44] TR News New Pegasus Spyware Abuses Identified in Mexico - The Citizen Lab https://citizenlab.ca/2022/10/new-pegasus-spyware-abuses-identified-in-mexico/ Source: Citizen Lab | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//citizenlab.ca/2022/10/new-pegasus-spyware-abuses-identified-in-mexico/ [06:44] TR Bot New Pegasus Spyware Abuses Identified in Mexico - The Citizen Lab [06:44] TR News (NEW): Notes from kernel hacking in Hare, part 2: multi-threading http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Notes_from_kernel_hacking_in_Hare_part_2_multi_threading.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Notes_from_kernel_hacking_in_Hare_part_2_multi_threading.gmi [06:44] TR Bot Tux Machines Notes from kernel hacking in Hare, part 2: multi-threading [06:45] highest_cubist_thrills https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Yow_BJeb8TI [06:45] TR Bot Guy Fawkes vs Che Guevara. Epic Rap Battles of History. - Invidious [06:45] TR News Debian bookworm on a Lenovo T14s Gen3 AMD https://blog.bofh.it/debian/id_463 [06:45] TR Bot Debian bookworm on a Lenovo T14s Gen3 AMD [06:46] DaemonFC Matthew Garrett [06:46] DaemonFC @mjg59 [06:46] DaemonFC 19h [06:46] DaemonFC Debian has voted to include non-free firmware in the installer by default, which is an impressive repudiation of the FSF [06:46] DaemonFC ----- [06:47] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR]: He gloats that non-free binaries that open up backdoors in hardware is included by default and that the FSF has been "repudiated" [06:47] DaemonFC "security" [06:47] schestowitz[TR] FSF shot its own foot [06:47] schestowitz[TR] by giving award to a troll [06:48] schestowitz[TR] and thus discrediting the FSFF [06:48] schestowitz[TR] and the award [06:48] schestowitz[TR] it was not the only time [06:48] schestowitz[TR] de Icaza and others [06:48] schestowitz[TR] bkuhn [06:48] schestowitz[TR] they have a whole parade of people with FSF awards who bash the FSF [06:48] schestowitz[TR] and what's that for? [06:49] highest_cubist_thrills i recall ariadne (i might be thinking of someone else though) saying the point of the fsf awards was to mend things with people rms pissed off [06:49] schestowitz[TR] http://techrights.org/2014/03/25/uefi-secure-boot-and-fsf/ [06:49] TR Bot My Disagreement With the FSF Over UEFI Secure Boot | Techrights [06:49] schestowitz[TR] yes, like reconciliation attempts [06:49] schestowitz[TR] but it does not work [06:49] highest_cubist_thrills i dont want to misquote or misattribute, so it should be assumed my wording here is lacking in accuracy somewhere [06:49] schestowitz[TR] they just give a badge of endorsement to people would would continue to bash their mission [06:50] highest_cubist_thrills but it does not work <- no, the fsf awards are as misguided an approach as secure boot itself [06:50] schestowitz[TR] and now while saying things like, I'm even a freedom 'champion'... gott this award right here [06:50] highest_cubist_thrills the whole military "heroes" thing is also a pr campaign [06:50] highest_cubist_thrills ive got family in the armed forces-- i dont hate them or anything [06:50] highest_cubist_thrills theyre being used by imperialism [06:50] highest_cubist_thrills some of them at least are guilty of crimes [06:51] highest_cubist_thrills i mean the armed forces [06:51] highest_cubist_thrills but war is a hostage situation where the hostages are pitted against each other [06:51] TR News New page/update: SWI-Prolog version 8.4.3 (stable) released on 22 June 2022 https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Swi-prolog [06:51] TR Bot Swi-prolog - Free Software Directory [06:51] highest_cubist_thrills sure there are "volunteers" [06:51] highest_cubist_thrills often relatively poor [06:51] highest_cubist_thrills create a lower class, tell them they can volunteer [06:52] highest_cubist_thrills raise college tuition, tell them youll pay for them to go to college [06:52] TR News "Welcome to this week's Linux Weekly Roundup. We had a full week in the world of Linux releases, many reviews will be ready next week." https://www.linuxmadesimple.info/2022/10/linux-weekly-roundup-202.html [06:52] TR Bot Linux Weekly Roundup #202 [06:52] highest_cubist_thrills then pump people full of propaganda about "liberating" the world [06:52] highest_cubist_thrills from situations imperialism created in the first place [06:52] highest_cubist_thrills its a great scam [06:53] TR News IBM and Microsoft as coauthors. Or Red Hat. They're not competing with Microsoft but appeasing the enemy that's attacking us. https://kubernetes.io/blog/2022/10/03/userns-alpha/ [06:53] TR Bot Kubernetes 1.25: alpha support for running Pods with user namespaces | Kubernetes [06:54] highest_cubist_thrills i was anti-imperialism as a libertarian too [06:54] highest_cubist_thrills only libertarianism, like ancoms, has no plan and is basically ineffective against imperialism [06:54] highest_cubist_thrills so it just kind of fluffs itself all day and listens to punk rock [06:55] highest_cubist_thrills ok, im trying very hard to be more fair than that. jurys still out on ancoms [06:55] highest_cubist_thrills i gave libertarians enough time to get serious, will never happen. [06:56] TR News More clowns... from "Senior Contributor I cover Clown Computing" https://www.forbes.com/sites/janakirammsv/2022/10/02/spectro-cloud-aims-to-simplify-managing-cloud-native-edge-infrastructure/?ss=cloud [06:56] TR Bot Spectro Cloud Aims To Simplify Managing Cloud Native Edge Infrastructure [06:56] highest_cubist_thrills al sweigart seems to love an-coms. hates stallman. [06:56] highest_cubist_thrills he gives more money to an-com youtubers than i ever gave to the fsf [06:57] TR News "Any member of the campus community who participates in the clinic will receive a meal voucher worth up to $10 for vendors in the Nebraska and Nebraska East unions." https://news.unl.edu/newsrooms/today/article/university-to-host-covid-vaccine-clinic-on-oct-10/ [06:57] TR Bot University to host COVID vaccine clinic on Oct 10 | Nebraska Today | University of NebraskaLincoln [06:57] highest_cubist_thrills the thing that fucks me off about them isnt their goal [06:57] highest_cubist_thrills its their methods [06:57] highest_cubist_thrills they say anarchy isnt chaos, then they spend endless years taking each other out [06:58] highest_cubist_thrills nobody expects the civil inquisition! [06:58] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [06:58] highest_cubist_thrills "welcome to anarcho-communism. all fire is friendly fire!" [06:58] TR News They pay like $100 for PATENT licences for 3 shots (that cost cents to make) and only 10 bucks to people who then become CLIENTS of the VENDOR, lacking any long-term clinical trials, so they compel you to also sign a waiver. [06:59] highest_cubist_thrills "if you arent shooting at your own comrades youre not a real anarchist!" [06:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 71.46 k/sec., IPFS upstream 119.48 average k/sec., average swarm size 109.58 [06:59] highest_cubist_thrills who knows what draws al sweigart to this. personally im fascinated. ● Oct 03 [07:00] highest_cubist_thrills id LOVE to ask him. would he give an honest answer? because seriously, any answer i can imagine only brings with it more questions. [07:00] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [07:00] highest_cubist_thrills im probably giving him too much credit. flawed philosophy (which sweigart loves) is like the dna in jurassic park [07:00] highest_cubist_thrills if they cant get a complete genome they just throw whatever frog dna or whatever they can find [07:01] highest_cubist_thrills "hey buddy! wanna buy the philosophical equivalent of 'junk dna'?" [07:01] highest_cubist_thrills "sure um, you look like a reputable business owner." [07:02] highest_cubist_thrills so trying to understand the logic is probably like trying to find a pattern in white noise [07:02] highest_cubist_thrills they dont have a fucking clue what theyre doing [07:02] highest_cubist_thrills but the goal is righteous, so smash until someone rebuilds it as something better [07:02] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@i4i4k5b832g88.irc) has joined #techrights [07:02] highest_cubist_thrills then smash that too! its worked so far [07:02] highest_cubist_thrills this wont become a tool of corporations or anything [07:02] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [07:03] highest_cubist_thrills iraq is bad! smash! [07:03] highest_cubist_thrills halliburton: "who sent these guys?" [07:03] highest_cubist_thrills "i dont know, but like the cut of their jib!" [07:04] highest_cubist_thrills al sweigart: cancel mob the boring stuff [07:06] highest_cubist_thrills if you wonder why i keep mentioning sweigart its because hes a financial connection between left anarchists and the coup [07:06] highest_cubist_thrills i tried to get away from him but hes fucking everywhere [07:07] highest_cubist_thrills you know those crazy stories about george soros? [07:07] highest_cubist_thrills al sweigart is like the an-com mini me of that [07:07] TR News iTWire - Even Barnaby Joyce knows Optus attack was anything but sophisticated! https://itwire.com/open-sauce/even-barnaby-joyce-knows-optus-attack-was-anything-but-sophisticated.html Source: IT Wire | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//itwire.com/open-sauce/even-barnaby-joyce-knows-optus-attack-was-anything-but-sophisticated.html [07:07] highest_cubist_thrills i mean make no mistake, im exaggerating. just less than you might think. [07:07] TR Bot - Even Barnaby Joyce knows Optus attack was anything but sophisticated! [07:07] highest_cubist_thrills i think its absolutely wild [07:08] highest_cubist_thrills and you can totally make up a scenario (its just one of countless possibilities, so im not by any means assuming its true) [07:08] highest_cubist_thrills where mjg got sucked into this like a cult [07:08] highest_cubist_thrills you can just as easily say swiegart did [07:09] highest_cubist_thrills these developers dont know shit about politics. if they did, they wouldnt work for fucking google for christs sake [07:09] highest_cubist_thrills theyre useful pawns [07:09] highest_cubist_thrills im not trying to get them off the hook. i call them traitors. [07:09] highest_cubist_thrills but i am interested in the whole story. whatever the fuck it is. [07:10] highest_cubist_thrills but the story has so many interesting twists to it [07:10] TR News "This is the 21st Discworld novel and relies on the previous Watch novels for characterization and cast development. I would not start here." https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/reviews/books/0-06-228020-1.html [07:10] TR Bot Review: Jingo by Terry Pratchett [07:11] highest_cubist_thrills we are in the phase of free software history where it gets destroyed [07:11] *eidolon has quit (Quit: nyaa~) [07:11] highest_cubist_thrills no ones really fighting it, people pretend [07:11] highest_cubist_thrills some even believe they are doing something. im not against trying-- they should keep trying if they really believe in the idea. [07:12] highest_cubist_thrills trying wont do shit right now. but if theyre really trying, that might keep some spark of the idea alive [07:12] TR News IBM-sponsored propaganda/marketing site propels the false narrative of "supply chain" to demonise stuff while totally overlooking CISA/NSA back doors -- the real issue along with outsourced manufacturing of hardware https://www.itjungle.com/2022/10/03/software-supply-chain-attacks-are-a-growing-threat/ [07:12] TR Bot Software Supply Chain Attacks Are A Growing Threat - IT Jungle [07:12] highest_cubist_thrills im not against that at all. [07:12] highest_cubist_thrills im only against people pretending theyre doing more than theyre actually doing [07:12] highest_cubist_thrills pretending non-results are results. [07:12] highest_cubist_thrills because thats horseshit. [07:13] highest_cubist_thrills thats how you get quack medicine [07:13] highest_cubist_thrills you whip together some ingredients that might work based on some incomplete or exaggerated research [07:13] highest_cubist_thrills then you call it a cure and you scam people [07:14] TR News "We go hands-on at NASA's JPL and learn why Linux is the best OS for Earth and Mars." https://feed.jupiter.zone/allshows#entry-8877 [07:14] highest_cubist_thrills thats how people end up dead from "horse" medicine [07:14] highest_cubist_thrills you can do that with political strategy too [07:15] highest_cubist_thrills whip together a bunch of tactics, unleash them and pretend it did any good, when it made things worse [07:15] highest_cubist_thrills they destroyed the fsf [07:16] highest_cubist_thrills they were useful pawns. they did about as much for the fsf [07:16] highest_cubist_thrills as cancelling eich did for mozilla [07:16] highest_cubist_thrills mjg: post-stallman free software [07:16] TR News Timothy Prickett Morgan = paid and bought ICBM shill. Some still treat him as independent journalist, despite the trail of bribes. https://www.itjungle.com/2022/10/03/we-need-some-insight-from-you/ [07:16] TR Bot We Need Some Insight From You - IT Jungle [07:16] highest_cubist_thrills look at how post-eich mozilla worked out [07:17] highest_cubist_thrills web with drm, microsoft owns webkit AND gecko [07:17] highest_cubist_thrills icecat is source only but who wants to compile the ocean? [07:17] TR News (NEW): CPU-X an Alternative to CPU-Z for Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/CPU_X_an_Alternative_to_CPU_Z_for_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/CPU_X_an_Alternative_to_CPU_Z_for_Linux.gmi [07:17] TR Bot Tux Machines CPU-X an Alternative to CPU-Z for Linux [07:17] highest_cubist_thrills just to get stuck in the middle of it on a fucking raft [07:17] highest_cubist_thrills theyd rather use emacs [07:18] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR]: PornHub has a UK post. [07:18] DaemonFC Searches for pegging spike the same time the Queen dies. [07:18] DaemonFC I smell a conspiracy. [07:19] highest_cubist_thrills post-eich mozilla is literally a $cam [07:19] highest_cubist_thrills post-stallman f$f is bullshit [07:19] schestowitz[TR] an influx of mozilla talent at sellout [07:19] schestowitz[TR] people froim FB [07:19] schestowitz[TR] from Microsoft [07:19] schestowitz[TR] from CIA, literally [07:19] highest_cubist_thrills they did need to replace stallman, somehow [07:20] schestowitz[TR] from assassination mission to non-profit :-) [07:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [07:20] highest_cubist_thrills but there was hardly any point, if they were going to destroy everything he worked for as a biproduct [07:20] highest_cubist_thrills smash the bakery! [07:20] highest_cubist_thrills great, what will you eat [07:20] TR News (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/today_s_howtos.gmi [07:20] TR Bot Tux Machines today's howtos [07:20] highest_cubist_thrills smash the hospitals! [07:20] highest_cubist_thrills fucking morons. [07:20] TR News (NEW): Vim vs Neovim: Functionalities, and Strengths http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Vim_vs_Neovim_Functionalities_and_Strengths.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Vim_vs_Neovim_Functionalities_and_Strengths.gmi [07:20] TR Bot Tux Machines Vim vs Neovim: Functionalities, and Strengths [07:20] TR News (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Security_Leftovers.gmi [07:20] TR Bot Tux Machines Security Leftovers [07:20] highest_cubist_thrills these are the same idiots that let stalin rise to power [07:21] TR News (NEW): Linux Kernel 6.0 is Officially Out with Run-Time Kernel Verification http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Linux_Kernel_6_0_is_Officially_Out_with_Run_Time_Kernel_Verific.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Linux_Kernel_6_0_is_Officially_Out_with_Run_Time_Kernel_Verific.gmi [07:21] TR Bot Tux Machines Linux Kernel 6.0 is Officially Out with Run-Time Kernel Verification [07:21] schestowitz[TR] one moment you overthrow a government [07:21] schestowitz[TR] the next moment you overthrow mozilla geeks [07:21] schestowitz[TR] and instyall fake security [07:21] schestowitz[TR] and add lots of spyware to firefox [07:21] schestowitz[TR] to level the playing field... for spies [07:21] highest_cubist_thrills overthrow the boring stuff [07:21] TR News (NEW): Next Phase For Rust In The Linux Kernel http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Next_Phase_For_Rust_In_The_Linux_Kernel.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Next_Phase_For_Rust_In_The_Linux_Kernel.gmi [07:21] TR Bot Tux Machines Next Phase For Rust In The Linux Kernel [07:22] highest_cubist_thrills to the extreme! [07:23] highest_cubist_thrills https://mcninja.fandom.com/wiki/King_Radical [07:23] TR Bot King Radical | McNinja Wiki | Fandom [07:24] highest_cubist_thrills if you read the entire comic, king radical ceases to be a parody [07:24] highest_cubist_thrills he wants to replace everything in the universe with something less boring [07:25] highest_cubist_thrills open source was always the "cool" version of free software [07:26] highest_cubist_thrills https://yewtu.be/watch?v=KjB6r-HDDI0 [07:26] TR Bot Wayne's World (6/10) Movie CLIP - I Will Not Bow to Any Sponsor (1992) HD - Invidious [07:26] highest_cubist_thrills i like that rob lowe was in two successful mike myers franchises [07:26] DaemonFC https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/10/03/update-on-seamonkey-2-53-14-and-noscript-crashes-palefills-not-working-more-grumbling-about-google-and-microsoft-webmail-open-source-mozilla-security-theater-software-bloat-and-matthew-garre/ [07:26] TR Bot Update on SeaMonkey 2.53.14 and NoScript crashes/Palefills not working. More grumbling about Google and Microsoft WebMail, open source, Mozilla, security theater, software bloat, and Matthew Garrett. | BaronHK's Rants [07:27] highest_cubist_thrills wayes world, then he played #2 in austin powers [07:28] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR]: I hate Webmail, but I think I got Windows and Garrett pretty good at the end. [07:28] TR News 3 Techrights posts about EPO coming later this morning [07:29] TR News (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/today_s_leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/today_s_leftovers.gmi [07:29] highest_cubist_thrills "you can stay in the big leagues and play by the rules, or you can go back to the farm club in aurora." [07:29] TR Bot Tux Machines today's leftovers [07:29] highest_cubist_thrills "wayne, what the hell are you doing?" [07:29] TR News / | Gemini address: / [07:29] highest_cubist_thrills "same thing weve always done" [07:30] highest_cubist_thrills "youve humiliated our sponsor" [07:30] highest_cubist_thrills "shyeah." [07:30] highest_cubist_thrills "youre fired!" [07:30] TR News Links 03/10/2022: Linux 6.0 is Out | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/linux-6-0-is-out/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/03/linux-6-0-is-out/ [07:30] TR Bot Links 03/10/2022: Linux 6.0 is Out | Techrights [07:30] highest_cubist_thrills "fired? for that? thats it, im outta here-- and im taking my show with me" [07:30] highest_cubist_thrills "we OWN the show" [07:30] highest_cubist_thrills yep. [07:30] highest_cubist_thrills they sure do. [07:31] schestowitz[TR] a show called after you [07:31] schestowitz[TR] they "own" you [07:31] schestowitz[TR] you signed away your name [07:31] highest_cubist_thrills still no idea what the fuck THIS is https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/help-others-find-free-software-watch-and-share-escape-to-freedom [07:31] TR Bot Help others find free software: Watch and share Escape to Freedom Free Software Foundation Working together for free software [07:31] schestowitz[TR] bears and stuff [07:31] highest_cubist_thrills you signed away your nam <- waynux [07:32] schestowitz[TR] the artist threw some repertoire in [07:32] highest_cubist_thrills shoetool wasnt bad, but it marked the transition of the fsf from advocacy to pointless television [07:33] highest_cubist_thrills its not that video is a bad medium. its that the message has nothing to back it with. [07:33] schestowitz[TR] ikt's expensive [07:33] schestowitz[TR] these videos have high budget [07:33] schestowitz[TR] *it's [07:33] schestowitz[TR] not sure how many watch these [07:33] schestowitz[TR] and whether it justified the expense [07:33] highest_cubist_thrills i mean expensive videos arent videos if theyre volunteer created [07:33] schestowitz[TR] after zoe they do some translation [07:33] highest_cubist_thrills but if theyre paying for that [07:33] schestowitz[TR] like mandarin [07:33] highest_cubist_thrills hey, the treasurer is president [07:33] highest_cubist_thrills if they paid a dollar for escape to freedom, they got ripped off [07:34] highest_cubist_thrills it has no story and no point [07:34] schestowitz[TR] shoe.tools [07:34] highest_cubist_thrills its honestly crap [07:34] highest_cubist_thrills shoe.tools <- heh [07:35] schestowitz[TR] "HEEL!" [07:35] highest_cubist_thrills contrapoints would have made a video 100 times better than escape to freedom [07:35] highest_cubist_thrills she probably would have sided with open source though [07:35] highest_cubist_thrills but the thing about contrapoints is that when she disagrees with someone [07:35] TR News IBM i 7.3 Loses Standard Support On April 28, 2023 - IT Jungle https://www.itjungle.com/2022/10/03/ibm-i-7-3-loses-standard-support-on-april-28-2023/ ICBM = ripoff [07:35] TR Bot IBM i 7.3 Loses Standard Support On April 28, 2023 - IT Jungle [07:36] highest_cubist_thrills shes really honest when she thinks someone is right [07:36] highest_cubist_thrills not just in a fair and balanced way, but in a way that makes you see the world in greater detail and maybe wisdom [07:36] highest_cubist_thrills funded by al sweigart, alas. not her fault. im sure she has no idea who al sweigart is [07:36] highest_cubist_thrills unless she codes in python or something [07:37] highest_cubist_thrills he funds all the lefttubers [07:37] highest_cubist_thrills he funded the video on cancel culture that talks about what he did to stallman [07:38] highest_cubist_thrills its an amazing video [07:38] highest_cubist_thrills https://yewtu.be/watch?v=OjMPJVmXxV8 [07:38] TR Bot Canceling | ContraPoints - Invidious [07:38] highest_cubist_thrills shes being cancelled for doing a show with hillary clinton [07:39] highest_cubist_thrills i could have met her years ago. i did not want to touch her hand [07:39] highest_cubist_thrills the show with clinton, terrrrrrrible move [07:39] highest_cubist_thrills if i read into her most recent video, all of her energy (and fucking sense) is going into quitting drinking. or im way off. [07:40] highest_cubist_thrills so i can see how (some will think this is unfair. i dont) she lacks the energy to make reasonable decisions about who she associates with [07:40] highest_cubist_thrills especially since while its true that clinton is a war criminal and one of the more horrible people on earth, imo [07:40] highest_cubist_thrills along with everyone else in her circle [07:40] highest_cubist_thrills which includes most of the republican party (including trump) imo [07:41] highest_cubist_thrills the fact is, she got canceled just as hard for letting a trans adult star do a VOICEOVER in one of her videos [07:41] highest_cubist_thrills because hes not a woke enough trans person [07:42] highest_cubist_thrills some trans people are like "youre not REAL trans unless you... x y z" [07:42] highest_cubist_thrills and he ONCE SAID something that SOUNDS LIKE he might be one of those people [07:42] highest_cubist_thrills so by association, she is one of those people ("truscum") because she "associated" with him [07:43] highest_cubist_thrills twitter is like the fucking stasi. [07:43] highest_cubist_thrills so yeah, its more than a faux pas to go for drinks and dancing with a war criminal [07:43] highest_cubist_thrills but if it was a trans person who isnt the right sort of trans politically, thats just as bad to these people [07:44] highest_cubist_thrills theres no sense of proportion. at all. none. [07:44] highest_cubist_thrills sound like anyone you know? [07:44] highest_cubist_thrills from google or anything [07:44] highest_cubist_thrills granted i talk about ibm like theyre the fucking third reich [07:44] highest_cubist_thrills but thats because they literally were the third reich. [07:44] highest_cubist_thrills and no one seems to have much of a problem with that [07:44] highest_cubist_thrills in the stallman version of this [07:45] highest_cubist_thrills hillary clinton and war criminals are fine [07:45] highest_cubist_thrills but buck angel? doing a voice over? how dare you! [07:46] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [07:47] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [07:49] highest_cubist_thrills "but also like the guillotine, it CAN become a sadistic entertainment spectacle" [07:49] highest_cubist_thrills hitler used a guillotine [07:49] highest_cubist_thrills they used pretty much any lethal means they could get their goosestepping little hands on [07:50] highest_cubist_thrills dont worry about mike godwin, hes fucking dead [07:50] highest_cubist_thrills tragic accident de-lousing some clothing. he will be missed. [07:51] highest_cubist_thrills in zee end it was zee law zat killed him [07:52] highest_cubist_thrills Did You Know The Nazi's Killed 16,000 People By Guillotine? [07:52] highest_cubist_thrills www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4604772/Nazi-head-hunter-invented-guillotine-killed-3-000.html [07:52] highest_cubist_thrills Nazi executioner Johann Reichhart killed over 3,000 people during his career Reichhart ended lives of criminals and dissidents with the plunge of a guillotine [07:52] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.14 [SeaMonkey 2.53.14/20221003001100]) [07:52] highest_cubist_thrills The Nazi's Killed 16,000 <- obviously THAT wasnt working [07:52] highest_cubist_thrills too slow. [07:53] highest_cubist_thrills the needed to find a way to get ahead. sorry. [07:54] highest_cubist_thrills i know the adl is going to be after me now, but it only says "criminals and dissidents with the plunge of a guillotine [07:54] highest_cubist_thrills and that sounds like they were still ROUNDING UP the jews [07:54] highest_cubist_thrills so maybe they were killing aryans and catholics [07:54] highest_cubist_thrills and cathoics, as the adl should know, are a mixed bag. [07:54] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@4f8tn9xbhxtc8.irc) has joined #techrights [07:55] highest_cubist_thrills but 16,000 is so few you dont even need ibm to count them. [07:55] highest_cubist_thrills i mean thats what the third reich looks like when you dont "automate the boring stuff with dehomag" [07:55] highest_cubist_thrills sorry, al. [07:59] TR News Update on SeaMonkey 2.53.14 and NoScript Crashes/Palefills Not Working | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/update-on-seamonkey/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/03/update-on-seamonkey/ [07:59] TR Bot Update on SeaMonkey 2.53.14 and NoScript Crashes/Palefills Not Working | Techrights [07:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 52.83 k/sec., IPFS upstream 98.16 average k/sec., average swarm size 99.30 [07:59] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights ● Oct 03 [08:00] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: I've jsut republished your post [08:00] schestowitz[TR] the troll asked me tom publish hhis posts too [08:00] highest_cubist_thrills yes but it was a rhetorical point [08:00] schestowitz[TR] but that same troll said we should shun and not publish and not even deal with bugs from tranphobes [08:00] highest_cubist_thrills he doesnt care if you publish him or not [08:00] schestowitz[TR] the troll said he was a transpobe [08:00] schestowitz[TR] after a phd from cambridge [08:00] schestowitz[TR] so I cannot repost an article for him [08:00] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [08:01] highest_cubist_thrills the troll said he was a transpobe <- i knew youd make this THE meme of 2022 [08:01] schestowitz[TR] I don't, according to him, have the capacity for publishing technical posts from transpohbes [08:01] schestowitz[TR] highest_cubist_thrills: yes [08:01] schestowitz[TR] he said, [08:01] schestowitz[TR] we should shun them [08:02] schestowitz[TR] and then said he too is the one to be shunned [08:02] schestowitz[TR] he's a joke on two thun legs [08:02] schestowitz[TR] *thin [08:02] highest_cubist_thrills hes at a point where his transphobic past is never going to bite him. as starstreak (correctly) points out, everyone was a transphobe back then. [08:02] schestowitz[TR] notice he has been mostly shitting up since then [08:02] schestowitz[TR] not the first time he makes self-incriminating brags [08:03] schestowitz[TR] highest_cubist_thrills: untrue [08:03] schestowitz[TR] if you talk about 20 years backj [08:03] highest_cubist_thrills notice he has been mostly shitting up since then <- if he takes a nap you act like hes waving a white flag though [08:03] schestowitz[TR] now after a campaign of intimidation [08:03] schestowitz[TR] many just don't talk aboutn it [08:03] schestowitz[TR] that's not acceptance [08:03] schestowitz[TR] it is self-censorship [08:03] schestowitz[TR] and still about 95% of the world does not accept transd at all [08:03] schestowitz[TR] that 9% includes women [08:04] schestowitz[TR] (*95 [08:04] highest_cubist_thrills highest_cubist_thrills: untru <- its not untrue, his previous transphobia is never going to bite him. thats realistic. [08:04] schestowitz[TR] so that's how it is [08:04] highest_cubist_thrills what he cant appreciate is that it shouldnt have bitten stallman the way it did either. [08:04] schestowitz[TR] anyway, back to tech now [08:04] schestowitz[TR] the article is about Google and the Web [08:04] schestowitz[TR] and email [08:04] highest_cubist_thrills i mean apart from the fact that stallman isnt actually a transphobe. that too should matter. [08:04] schestowitz[TR] we're facing issues here other than sw freedom [08:04] highest_cubist_thrills but narratives > reality [08:04] schestowitz[TR] but standards [08:04] schestowitz[TR] and platforms [08:04] schestowitz[TR] all that vendor lockin stuff, inc. the back doors that accompany that [08:05] schestowitz[TR] rms was not even transphobic 20 years agoi [08:05] schestowitz[TR] and yet the tolls who were pick on him [08:05] schestowitz[TR] *trolls [08:05] highest_cubist_thrills double standards and hypocrisy are cornerstones of cancel culture [08:05] schestowitz[TR] and then have the audacity to accuse OTHERS of defamation [08:05] schestowitz[TR] yeah, hypocrisy [08:06] schestowitz[TR] anyway, so today we have some EPO leaks [08:06] schestowitz[TR] and letters [08:06] highest_cubist_thrills electric patent orchestra [08:06] schestowitz[TR] and rianne finally deposits her naturalisation docs [08:06] highest_cubist_thrills at least one of you will be british now [08:06] schestowitz[TR] in truss britain iut's not a huge feature [08:06] highest_cubist_thrills though tbh i assumed she was native. [08:06] highest_cubist_thrills i mean i assumed she was born in the uk [08:07] schestowitz[TR] this assumption sho0ws [08:07] schestowitz[TR] privacy works [08:07] highest_cubist_thrills well i have roughly zero interest in rianne as a person [08:07] highest_cubist_thrills shes not relevant to anything i do [08:07] schestowitz[TR] but I brought up this subject at one point, for some reason [08:07] schestowitz[TR] maybe to boast about her perfect score [08:08] highest_cubist_thrills perfect score on naturalisation? [08:09] highest_cubist_thrills /me missed something somewhere [08:10] schestowitz[TR] you might also assume the troll was born in England [08:11] schestowitz[TR] but Northern Ireland was already in the UK [08:11] highest_cubist_thrills anyway, emigrating to britain isnt easy, i should know [08:11] schestowitz[TR] "" [08:11] schestowitz[TR] The establishment of the Irish Free State in 1922 led to the remainder later being renamed the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland in 1927. Anthem: "God Save the King" (180137, 190122) "God Save the Queen" (18371901) [08:11] schestowitz[TR] brexit puts this at risk [08:11] schestowitz[TR] same for sscotland [08:11] highest_cubist_thrills no, i thought mjg was from northern ireland. [08:11] highest_cubist_thrills which is british, but its also irish. [08:11] schestowitz[TR] the appeal of being run by westminister is not there anymore [08:12] highest_cubist_thrills which means hes british, but also irish. [08:13] highest_cubist_thrills fun fact, the only reason i ever met someone from the fsf [08:13] highest_cubist_thrills is because i recognised a belfast accent. [08:13] highest_cubist_thrills i wont explain, but its quite true. [08:14] highest_cubist_thrills but i cant recognise other irish accents. [08:14] highest_cubist_thrills ill guess theyre from south africa before i guess theyre from ireland! unless its a really obvious one [08:14] highest_cubist_thrills like the irish equivalent of the crocodile hunter [08:15] highest_cubist_thrills if you talk like youre doing a commercial for lucky charms, of course ill guess irish [08:15] highest_cubist_thrills that cereal is not incredibly popular in ireland btw [08:16] highest_cubist_thrills \_()_/ [08:17] DaemonFC You know what really annoys the shit out of me. It's not trans people. It's the ones that say you're a transphobe just because you are mildly perplexed by the concept. [08:17] DaemonFC Not actively trying to hurt them in any way. [08:17] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [08:18] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [08:18] schestowitz[TR] FSF needs to study https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll#Concern_troll [08:18] TR Bot Internet troll - Wikipedia [08:18] schestowitz[TR] they are too easily manipulated by them [08:19] highest_cubist_thrills https://yewtu.be/watch?v=quKaWlCalTg [08:19] TR Bot Catherine Tate Show - Gay Son John HQ Part 3/5 - Invidious [08:19] highest_cubist_thrills they are too easily manipulated by them <- money was the wrecking ball [08:19] schestowitz[TR] "The authors noted that authorities tended to overlook or to deny situations that involve uncertainty while making unscientific arguments and disparaging comments in order to undermine opposing positions" [08:19] highest_cubist_thrills trolls are just the squatters camped out in the ruins [08:19] schestowitz[TR] "The New York Times reported in late October 2018 that Saudi Arabia used an online army of Twitter trolls to harass the late Saudi dissident journalist Jamal Khashoggi and other critics of the Saudi government" [08:19] schestowitz[TR] Twitter [08:19] highest_cubist_thrills i mean, they had trolls before [08:19] schestowitz[TR] invested in by... [08:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [08:20] highest_cubist_thrills but the fsf has been full of holes left by money for ages [08:20] schestowitz[TR] ""While corporate networking site LinkedIn is considered a platform of good taste and professionalism, companies searching for personal information by promoting jobs that were not real and fake accounts posting political messages has caught the company off guard [08:20] schestowitz[TR] Microsoft now blames "open source" for it [08:20] schestowitz[TR] http://techrights.org/2022/10/01/blame-shifting/ [08:20] TR Bot Microsoft Doesnt Like Open Source; Its Badmouthing, Stereotyping, Attacking It (to Shift Blame) | Techrights [08:20] schestowitz[TR] linkedin has problems [08:20] schestowitz[TR] it's proprietary [08:20] highest_cubist_thrills Microsoft now blames "open source" for it <- microsoft might as well blame microsoft [08:20] schestowitz[TR] blame "open source" [08:20] schestowitz[TR] my friend got scammed there [08:20] highest_cubist_thrills microsoft <3 scapegoats [08:20] schestowitz[TR] lost all his money [08:20] highest_cubist_thrills we all got scammed by open source. [08:20] schestowitz[TR] they also use "north korea" as scpegoat here [08:21] schestowitz[TR] one of the least popular countries [08:21] schestowitz[TR] but linkedin is not north korean [08:21] highest_cubist_thrills to be fair, there isnt much you can say thats nice about north korea [08:21] highest_cubist_thrills they have cute women pointing which way to turn on the roads. [08:21] highest_cubist_thrills and even that is probably under the very worst of circumstances for the women. [08:22] schestowitz[TR] "" [08:22] schestowitz[TR] For example, a person who wishes to shame obese people, but disguises this impulse as concern for the health of overweight people, could be considered a concern troll [08:22] schestowitz[TR] Like a tranphobe calling people "tranphobes" [08:22] highest_cubist_thrills yeah, theyve got that right [08:22] highest_cubist_thrills stallman was cancelled by 3,000 shitlords. [08:22] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR]: Browsing in SeaMonkey still performs well with JavaShit suppressed by NoScript. [08:22] schestowitz[TR] it stared in 2019 [08:22] schestowitz[TR] with defamation [08:22] highest_cubist_thrills 2018 [08:22] schestowitz[TR] http://techrights.org/2020/09/10/sjvn-senior-moment/ [08:22] TR Bot One Year Later Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols Libel Against Richard Stallman Remains Online and Uncorrected at ZDNet | Techrights [08:22] DaemonFC If you don't run too much of that, then there's not a lot of "jank". [08:23] schestowitz[TR] people still find this when they 'google' it [08:23] highest_cubist_thrills https://wwahammy.com/on-safety-at-libreplanet/ [08:23] TR Bot Is LibrePlanet Safe? [08:23] schestowitz[TR] and it looks like a "legit" site [08:23] schestowitz[TR] highest_cubist_thrills: maybe [08:23] highest_cubist_thrills without question. [08:23] schestowitz[TR] but really more so in 2019 [08:23] schestowitz[TR] in 2018 it was Torvalds in the penalty box [08:23] highest_cubist_thrills they want you to think it started [08:23] highest_cubist_thrills in 2018 it was Torvalds in the penalty box <- didnt read the link then [08:23] schestowitz[TR] because he upset the same people who a lear later "worked on" RMS [08:23] highest_cubist_thrills hell, i got that link from you. [08:24] schestowitz[TR] emboldened by the prior "success" [08:24] highest_cubist_thrills https://wwahammy.com/on-safety-at-libreplanet/ <- stallman, not torvalds [08:24] schestowitz[TR] they had a failed go in 2015 as well (same people) http://techrights.org/2015/10/07/forking-with-hypocrisy/ [08:24] TR Bot Hypocrite Forks the Linux Kernel Because of Cultural Characteristics That He Himself is Guilty of | Techrights [08:24] highest_cubist_thrills youre flipflopping again. when i say it started in 2018 you say it started earlier [08:24] schestowitz[TR] http://techrights.org/2014/03/25/uefi-secure-boot-and-fsf/ [08:24] TR Bot My Disagreement With the FSF Over UEFI Secure Boot | Techrights [08:24] highest_cubist_thrills today you say it happened later [08:24] schestowitz[TR] award to the man who 10 years ago was a tranphobe, by his own admission [08:24] schestowitz[TR] for 25+ years [08:24] highest_cubist_thrills if you stuck to facts you could have a more consistent narrative [08:25] DaemonFC https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/02/us/california-high-school-football-slave-auction-reaj/index.html [08:25] TR Bot Valley High School in California cancels football season after athletes filmed staging 'slave auction' prank | CNN [08:25] highest_cubist_thrills granted, if you do find out new information, better to incorporate new facts than worship consistency of error [08:25] DaemonFC California: Where people "get it". [08:25] DaemonFC - mjg59_ [08:25] schestowitz[TR] highest_cubist_thrills: 2008/9 [08:25] schestowitz[TR] guadec [08:25] highest_cubist_thrills thats better [08:25] schestowitz[TR] http://techrights.org/2009/09/26/richard-stallman-smeared-for-truth/ [08:25] TR Bot Richard Stallman is Not the Bad Guy | Techrights [08:26] highest_cubist_thrills not a new phenomenon [08:26] highest_cubist_thrills but it goes to show you-- they never stop [08:26] schestowitz[TR] the term is new [08:26] schestowitz[TR] "cancel culture" [08:26] highest_cubist_thrills they are relentless until their goal is achieved [08:26] schestowitz[TR] I think it's a term coined by the righ wing [08:26] schestowitz[TR] so I try not to use it much [08:26] highest_cubist_thrills i consider that before the coup though. [08:26] schestowitz[TR] same for several pther loaded terms [08:26] schestowitz[TR] that get you mis-branded [08:26] highest_cubist_thrills I think it's a term coined by the righ wing <- so I try not to use it muc <- you give them way too much credit. [08:26] highest_cubist_thrills youre like that communist i knew from greece, right before i started helping you out. [08:27] schestowitz[TR] no, you avoid the ad hom [08:27] schestowitz[TR] as best you can [08:27] highest_cubist_thrills he thought "cultural marxism" was an alt right thing. [08:27] highest_cubist_thrills if he knew anything he would know it was nearly identical to a complaint made by lenin himself. [08:27] highest_cubist_thrills about "cultural chauvanists" [08:27] highest_cubist_thrills which is EXACTLY what cancel culture is: cultural chauvanism [08:28] highest_cubist_thrills a group of petty bourgiosie that think themselves superior to "less educated" proles [08:28] highest_cubist_thrills in other words, wokeness DESERVES privilege. [08:28] highest_cubist_thrills and the proles are too unrefined to be woke [08:28] highest_cubist_thrills lenin complained about this 100 years ago [08:28] highest_cubist_thrills you give credit to the alt-right [08:29] highest_cubist_thrills if you can explain how lenin is alt-right, by my guest. you can do a series on it. [08:29] schestowitz[TR] I think I read "cultural marxism" was a jordan peterson thinfg [08:29] highest_cubist_thrills again-- you give the alt-right way too much credit [08:29] highest_cubist_thrills you like them silence you by pretending to have invented things they appropriated from the left [08:29] schestowitz[TR] mayeb [08:29] schestowitz[TR] but the point is, hoosing terms carefully can help the message [08:30] schestowitz[TR] to avoid false accusations [08:30] highest_cubist_thrills the alt-right appropriates terminology from the left all the time [08:30] schestowitz[TR] like, for instance, people who compare Pocock to Trump [08:30] highest_cubist_thrills choosing terms carefully can help the message <- or it can make you afraid to make important points [08:30] schestowitz[TR] which is insanely inadequate because his politics are to the left [08:30] highest_cubist_thrills like ones about cancel culture. [08:30] schestowitz[TR] spamnil tried to compare me to trump [08:30] highest_cubist_thrills because youre afraid of being lumped in with people who appropriated the term. [08:30] schestowitz[TR] he did not even bother explaining the similarity [08:31] highest_cubist_thrills spamnil tried to compare me to trump <- of course he did. hes an idiot. [08:31] highest_cubist_thrills and trump was basically satan and darth vader and hitler rolled into one at the time [08:31] highest_cubist_thrills so he compared you to satan himself [08:31] highest_cubist_thrills a very old trick [08:31] highest_cubist_thrills he might as well have said you were a witch. [08:32] highest_cubist_thrills he gets no points for originality, or accuracy. [08:32] highest_cubist_thrills but then hes spamnil, so this is no surprise [08:32] highest_cubist_thrills uses a mac and calls it linux [08:32] highest_cubist_thrills accuracy is definitely not his forte [08:33] schestowitz[TR] the contexts were [08:33] schestowitz[TR] several times when I showed he was shilling anti-FOSS stuff [08:33] schestowitz[TR] and his response was, several times, was you're trump [08:33] schestowitz[TR] or like trump [08:33] highest_cubist_thrills yep [08:33] schestowitz[TR] which not even remoately made sense [08:33] highest_cubist_thrills that was a thing for a few years [08:33] schestowitz[TR] because I did not even say anything political [08:34] highest_cubist_thrills well i explained the entirety of the logic behind it [08:34] highest_cubist_thrills you just pick the worst person on earth [08:34] schestowitz[TR] at the time he kept blustering in twitter about trump [08:34] highest_cubist_thrills then you say "youre like them" [08:34] schestowitz[TR] preying on his mind as an immigrant [08:34] highest_cubist_thrills reductio ad trumpium [08:34] schestowitz[TR] he boasted he would not allow trump on his show [08:34] schestowitz[TR] a show that nowadays struggles to get 10 views per "episode" [08:34] schestowitz[TR] so he pays for bots [08:34] highest_cubist_thrills because trump was like "i definitely want to go on this guys show" and spamnil was like FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS! [08:35] schestowitz[TR] to boost it like 50x-100x the real views [08:35] mjg59_ highest_cubist_thrills: I was born in Ireland, but largely grew up in Northern Ireland [08:35] highest_cubist_thrills he cant even get hillary clinton because he isnt gutsy. [08:35] *schestowitz[TR] checks views [08:35] highest_cubist_thrills I was born in Ireland <- ah, i was wrong [08:36] schestowitz[TR] lol, 3 days ago, 12 views [08:36] highest_cubist_thrills i assumed you were from the north originally [08:36] schestowitz[TR] assume 2 are spamni checking his own video [08:36] schestowitz[TR] one is the gust [08:36] *DaemonFC throws a potato at mjg59_ [08:36] schestowitz[TR] so abouti 9 views... after 3 days [08:36] DaemonFC Not even a good potato. One of those crap ones from Indiana. [08:36] DaemonFC I'm not going to waste an Idaho on you, buddy. [08:37] schestowitz[TR] lo, there ios a view there from 3 weeks ago [08:37] schestowitz[TR] 15 views [08:37] schestowitz[TR] less than one per day [08:37] schestowitz[TR] he wastes a lot of energy mixing up the mac [08:37] schestowitz[TR] to make videos nobody watches and mostly bots 'click' [08:38] highest_cubist_thrills /me speaks involuntarily with a northern accent for 3 days afterwards after any viewing of "ronin" despite mcelhones terrible northern accent [08:38] highest_cubist_thrills but originally it lasted about a year [08:38] DaemonFC I keep finding dead GUI stuff in SeaMonkey and pointing it out for deletion. [08:38] DaemonFC I just found some more that survived the last batch. :P [08:39] highest_cubist_thrills /me sounded MUCH cooler back then [08:39] highest_cubist_thrills its too bad i dont have that anymore [08:39] DaemonFC I got some more of the last tenants parking tickets. The woman is a goddamned menace. [08:40] DaemonFC I wish they'd quit sending them here. I told them she doesn't live here. [08:41] DaemonFC They have some lawyers in Chicago after her for $3,000 in unpaid parking tickets to City of Waukegan. [08:41] DaemonFC You can thank Prickster for that. He's the one that passed the "They can't make anyone pay up or revoke their license because rayciss!" law. [08:42] highest_cubist_thrills shes from surrey but both her parents were irish [08:42] DaemonFC It's not that hard to obey the traffic laws. I have had three parking tickets in my life. One was $5 and I just laughed and paid it, and the other two were from a university that couldn't do anything about it because I wasn't a student there and they couldn't withhold transcripts. [08:43] DaemonFC The $5 one was a laugh because I was parked in a two hour spot every day all day for 8 months before they ticketed me. [08:43] TR News "Its my observation that people who have fully formed political opinions when they were in their 20s and had managed to graduate college with a PhD dont actually change them. If anything, they just get smart and dont advertise it so they can remain employable." http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/update-on-seamonkey/ [08:43] TR Bot Update on SeaMonkey 2.53.14 and NoScript Crashes/Palefills Not Working | Techrights [08:44] *DaemonFC waterboards mjg59_ with mashed potatoes. [08:45] DaemonFC Not even good mashed potatoes. Those crummy Save-A-Lot instant potatoes with margarine instead of butter. [08:46] DaemonFC That ought to get a real confession. [08:46] DaemonFC I want to know who paid you for Secure Boot and when's the last time you actually had a transphobic thought, you transphobe! [08:48] DaemonFC Oh, not talking, eh? Another scoop..... NOW WHO'S A F***IN' WIKI? [08:49] highest_cubist_thrills trying to trick straight men into thinking theyre gay [08:49] highest_cubist_thrills "did you put tap water in my drink?" [08:49] highest_cubist_thrills "no, that only works on frogs" [08:49] DaemonFC I found a Nintendo 64 emulator written in JavaScript. [08:49] DaemonFC Like....why? [08:50] DaemonFC Even on some shitass Chromebook, you can run Retroarch. [08:50] highest_cubist_thrills "i thought you were supposed to kiss them" [08:50] highest_cubist_thrills "i mean after a couple glasses of tap water theyre ready for a lot more than that" [08:50] highest_cubist_thrills ribbit... for her pleasure [08:52] highest_cubist_thrills mjg have you seen this https://yewtu.be/watch?v=OjMPJVmXxV8 [08:52] TR Bot Canceling | ContraPoints - Invidious [08:52] highest_cubist_thrills i cant get over it because one of the people in the (patreon) credits signed the now infamous letter [08:53] highest_cubist_thrills chalk it up to coincidence, he still funded her afterwards [08:53] highest_cubist_thrills i dont think this proves anything except that the world is a strange place [08:55] highest_cubist_thrills https://yewtu.be/watch?v=YGgjUFTfRl8 [08:55] TR Bot John Lennon - Nobody Told Me - Invidious [08:57] *horseface has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 66.76 k/sec., IPFS upstream 74.68 average k/sec., average swarm size 96.68 [08:59] highest_cubist_thrills abstraction is when things become things ● Oct 03 [09:00] highest_cubist_thrills they were things before that but now theyre things [09:00] highest_cubist_thrills abstraction is when things happen [09:00] highest_cubist_thrills abstraction is when [09:01] highest_cubist_thrills abstraction is [09:03] highest_cubist_thrills presumption of guilt -> abstraction -> essentialism [09:04] highest_cubist_thrills the examples a bit weak because as it was later found out... [09:04] highest_cubist_thrills al sweigart could have provided a MUCH better example [09:08] TR News IRC Proceedings: Sunday, October 02, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/irc-proceedings-sunday-october-02-2022/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/03/irc-proceedings-sunday-october-02-2022/ [09:08] TR Bot IRC Proceedings: Sunday, October 02, 2022 | Techrights [09:10] highest_cubist_thrills 12:35 "you can pretend youre simply offering up criticism, when what youre really doing is attacking a persons career and reputation out of spite, envy, revenge, i- i mean it could be any motivation" [09:10] highest_cubist_thrills dont worry al, she wasnt even talking about stallman. [09:11] highest_cubist_thrills "petty sadism... maybe not the internets proudest moment, but..." [09:13] highest_cubist_thrills she gets super cute sometimes and i just realised its when she takes her makeup off [09:13] highest_cubist_thrills she looks good in makeup too, but glamourous and cute arent exactly the same [09:15] highest_cubist_thrills 14:24 "james charles: is racist, ableist, transphobic, AND a sexual predator" -- may 2019 (twitter) [09:15] highest_cubist_thrills is there a cancel culture form letter you can draft all these from or something? [09:15] highest_cubist_thrills may 2019 (twitter) [09:16] highest_cubist_thrills there must be a new variant of that letter out by now [09:17] TR News ICBM hyping up Kubernetes https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/10/kubernetes-statistics-2022 [09:17] TR Bot Kubernetes by the numbers, in 2022: 11 stats to see | The Enterprisers Project [09:17] highest_cubist_thrills 2021-03-23 Richard M. Stallman, frequently known as RMS, has been a dangerous force in the free software community for a long time. He has shown himself to be misogynist, ableist, and transphobic, among other serious accusations of impropriety. These sorts of beliefs have no place in the free software, digital rights, and tech communities. [09:18] TR News "These days, cash on hand is no longer a requirement, and Id argue that traffic isnt either just post online, and people worldwide can buy virtual lemonade." (if you don't value privacy and other rights) https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/10/future-payments-6-predictions [09:18] TR Bot The future of payments: 6 predictions | The Enterprisers Project [09:18] TR News (NEW): [LibreOffice] Content controls in Writer: PDF export and combo box type http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/_LibreOffice_Content_controls_in_Writer_PDF_export_and_combo_bo.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/_LibreOffice_Content_controls_in_Writer_PDF_export_and_combo_bo.gmi [09:18] TR Bot Tux Machines [LibreOffice] Content controls in Writer: PDF export and combo box type [09:19] highest_cubist_thrills he also made a nation or a planet radioactive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Scientology_security_checks [09:19] TR Bot List of Scientology security checks - Wikipedia [09:19] highest_cubist_thrills im all for freedom 0, but thats definitely abusing freedom 0. [09:20] highest_cubist_thrills "Did you come to Earth for evil purposes?" [09:20] highest_cubist_thrills "Have you ever smothered a baby?" [09:20] highest_cubist_thrills "Have you ever enslaved a population?" [09:20] highest_cubist_thrills "Have you ever destroyed a culture?" [09:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [09:21] highest_cubist_thrills " Have you ever torn out someone's tongue?" [09:21] highest_cubist_thrills fsf: definitely not literally! [09:22] TR News Airbus AoA Angle of Attack sensor issue | Pen Test Partners https://www.pentestpartners.com/security-blog/airbus-aoa-angle-of-attack-sensor-issue/ Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.pentestpartners.com/security-blog/airbus-aoa-angle-of-attack-sensor-issue/ [09:22] TR Bot Airbus AoA Angle of Attack sensor issue | Pen Test Partners [09:22] highest_cubist_thrills https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ocw90W44Boc [09:22] TR Bot Scientology - What are your crimes? - Invidious [09:22] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.14 [SeaMonkey 2.53.14/20221003001100]) [09:22] TR News (NEW): Red Hat / IBM Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Red_Hat_IBM_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Red_Hat_IBM_Leftovers.gmi [09:22] TR Bot Tux Machines Red Hat / IBM Leftovers [09:22] TR News "IVM Development Group is pleased to announce the release of pg_ivm 1.3." https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/pg_ivm-13-released-2517/ [09:22] TR Bot PostgreSQL: pg_ivm 1.3 released [09:27] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@4f8tn9xbhxtc8.irc) has joined #techrights [09:28] DaemonFC highest_cubist_thrills"Have you ever smothered a baby?" [09:29] DaemonFC Have ya' ever eaten a baby? BABY! It's the other other white meat! [09:29] DaemonFC I want mah baby back baby back baby back! I want mah baby back baby back baby back! Chili's baby back ribs! [09:30] DaemonFC highest_cubist_thrills"Did you come to Earth for evil purposes?" [09:31] DaemonFC No, it was just a happy accident that I accomplished evil purposes. Coming to Earth was entirely unplanned by me. [09:31] DaemonFC highest_cubist_thrills"Have you ever enslaved a population?" [09:31] DaemonFC No, well, yes. I bought Plantation Mint tea before they renamed it Perfectly Mint. Which is enough in mjg59_'s book to call me a slave owning transphobe. [09:32] DaemonFC highest_cubist_thrills"Have you ever destroyed a culture?" [09:32] DaemonFC No, but I've had some major international incidents. [09:33] DaemonFC Do we accumulate sex objects? [09:33] DaemonFC Well, I keep telling schestowitz[TR] to get rid of that butt plug, mjg59_ [09:33] DaemonFC But he just won't listen. [09:33] DaemonFC So, sure, I guess. [09:35] DaemonFC "Are you or have you ever been a Communist?" [09:35] DaemonFC Immigration asks this. [09:37] highest_cubist_thrills "so here it is, the 10 second voiceover that ruined a month of my life" [09:38] highest_cubist_thrills it used to a few days in the stocks would put a person back on track [09:38] highest_cubist_thrills not our natalie, she simply has no remorse [09:45] *techuser has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:48] *techuser (~techuser@kc95uzkxqv9uy.irc) has joined #techrights [09:49] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:50] DaemonFC https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/09/30/man-out-on-bond-for-gun-charge-found-with-loaded-gun-at-seatbelt-enforcement-checkpoint-in-waukegan/ [09:50] TR Bot Man out on bond for gun charge found with loaded gun at seatbelt enforcement checkpoint in Waukegan [09:53] highest_cubist_thrills 38:37 she talks about how being constantly accused of being truscum has an effect similar to brainwashing (it doesnt take though) [09:53] highest_cubist_thrills (at least with her it doesnt take) [09:54] highest_cubist_thrills if youre going to brutally convince someone that theyre horrible and dont deserve their accomplishments because they need to become a good person for a change [09:54] highest_cubist_thrills and they end up believing you [09:54] highest_cubist_thrills you have an ethical obligation to either be right, or at least have tried your fucking damnedest to be right [09:56] highest_cubist_thrills otherwise how are you different from eugene landy [09:56] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.14 [SeaMonkey 2.53.14/20221003001100]) [09:56] highest_cubist_thrills https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_Landy#Legacy [09:56] TR Bot Eugene Landy - Wikipedia [09:57] highest_cubist_thrills i suppose in fairness, landy was not a mob [09:57] highest_cubist_thrills and you cant say a group of people are a SINGLE unethical therapist [09:58] highest_cubist_thrills theyre only EMULATING one 3000th of an unethical therapist [09:58] highest_cubist_thrills and in a democracy, that sort of two fingers up at ethical considerations should be possible after all [09:59] highest_cubist_thrills 3000 mobsters > an uncountable (probably insignificant) group of "ethicists" [09:59] highest_cubist_thrills so thats no problem [09:59] highest_cubist_thrills at least its not unsurmountable ● Oct 03 [10:02] TR News Vaccination/innoculation is very important, but it seems to have been warped into a lucrative, high-end market (for the rich) with many unethical patents. The same happened with plastic surgery (not 'repairing' people with defects or after accidents) and hair removal (some people with chromosome issues grow think hair on the face, making it harder to socialiase and get jobs). Money corrupts science and medicine. [10:03] TR News (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/today_s_howtos.1.gmi [10:03] TR Bot Tux Machines today's howtos [10:03] TR News (NEW): 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: October 2nd, 2022 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/9to5Linux_Weekly_Roundup_October_2nd_2022.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/9to5Linux_Weekly_Roundup_October_2nd_2022.gmi [10:03] TR Bot Tux Machines 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: October 2nd, 2022 [10:03] highest_cubist_thrills cancel culture isnt medicine [10:04] highest_cubist_thrills in medicine, the dosage is part of the cure [10:04] *matteobin (~matteobin@3rwucdg8qym5c.irc) has joined #techrights [10:04] highest_cubist_thrills you dose carefully so you Do No Harm [10:04] matteobin Good morning everyone! [10:04] highest_cubist_thrills with poison you dont have to be so careful [10:04] highest_cubist_thrills with poison your only concern is that the dose is Strong Enough [10:04] highest_cubist_thrills its pretty obvious which side of things cancel culture is on [10:05] schestowitz[TR] Well, I keep telling schestowitz[TR] to get rid of that butt plug, mjg59_ [10:05] schestowitz[TR] if you start by baning one person for reason x [10:05] schestowitz[TR] and it's not due to spam [10:05] schestowitz[TR] then the slippery slope si there [10:05] schestowitz[TR] we don't have anyone banned [10:05] highest_cubist_thrills how often does a good doctor try to poison someone [10:05] schestowitz[TR] harolp [10:06] schestowitz[TR] harold shipman [10:06] schestowitz[TR] \what's the "ski" in the US [10:06] matteobin Have you heard of Debian decision regarding non-free firmware in the installer? [10:06] schestowitz[TR] who also did the same? [10:06] schestowitz[TR] dr. death? [10:06] schestowitz[TR] matteobin: yes, it's no big deal [10:06] schestowitz[TR] fewer hoops to jump through [10:06] highest_cubist_thrills actually dr death is a legitimate counter example [10:06] schestowitz[TR] at least debian voted NOT to issue statement on RMS [10:06] matteobin I was against it. [10:06] highest_cubist_thrills but that was with consent of the patient [10:07] schestowitz[TR] and voted to try to facilitate systemd alts [10:07] schestowitz[TR] not that anything was done on it sfaterwards [10:07] highest_cubist_thrills Have you heard of Debian decision regarding non-free firmware in the installer? <- they cancelled everyone that was in favour of keeping it out [10:07] schestowitz[TR] it was two terms ago (Hartman) [10:07] schestowitz[TR] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Shipman [10:07] TR Bot Harold Shipman - Wikipedia [10:07] matteobin The voting was right, I was just talking about my POV. [10:07] highest_cubist_thrills in fairness free firmware is an extremely difficult battle [10:08] schestowitz[TR] i forgot the surname of dr death [10:08] matteobin I like the hoops I had to do, because they reminded me of the issue that is NON-FREE hardware. [10:08] schestowitz[TR] searched the shipman article for sky and ski [10:08] highest_cubist_thrills the two most impossible battles that free software has faced are probably free firmware and the death of free software. [10:08] highest_cubist_thrills kevorkian. [10:08] schestowitz[TR] ah, right [10:08] highest_cubist_thrills jack kevorkian [10:08] schestowitz[TR] another east european name [10:08] highest_cubist_thrills who is now dr dead [10:08] schestowitz[TR] not ski [10:08] highest_cubist_thrills i dont think kevorkian was a bad doctor [10:08] schestowitz[TR] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Kevorkian [10:08] TR Bot Jack Kevorkian - Wikipedia [10:08] highest_cubist_thrills dnr lets people die. [10:08] matteobin Anyway, I didn't want to interrupt you. [10:09] schestowitz[TR] Armenian [10:09] highest_cubist_thrills kevorkian just makes it faster and less painful. [10:09] schestowitz[TR] matteobin: no, you're not [10:09] schestowitz[TR] you are on topic [10:09] schestowitz[TR] we are not [10:09] highest_cubist_thrills Anyway, I didn't want to interrupt you. <- i it was a worthy interruption [10:09] schestowitz[TR] i see some trolls try to weaponise the debian GR to make snide remarks re FSF [10:09] schestowitz[TR] which is revealing [10:09] schestowitz[TR] as if software freedom is not "the enemy" [10:09] highest_cubist_thrills you know what else is revealing [10:09] highest_cubist_thrills debian is the largest group of cancellers in the entire 3000 [10:09] highest_cubist_thrills i counted 108 myself. [10:10] highest_cubist_thrills someone from gnu counted 117 i think. [10:10] schestowitz[TR] kevorkian like kardashian [10:10] highest_cubist_thrills i have no idea [10:10] schestowitz[TR] iirc, they too are of armenian descent [10:10] highest_cubist_thrills keeping up with the kevorkians :) [10:10] matteobin I know that firmware is everywhere, but it does not change the fact that non-free hardware is an issue worth fighting for. [10:10] schestowitz[TR] their dad was the lawyer for oj siumpsion [10:10] schestowitz[TR] there's something you want in your resume! [10:10] schestowitz[TR] "my dad helped a murderer get away with it" [10:10] highest_cubist_thrills if the glove does not fit, you must acquit! [10:11] highest_cubist_thrills there's something you want in your resume! <- as a defence lawyer, you probably do [10:11] matteobin Keeping the Debian installer the way it was it would have been better, because it highlighted the non-free hardware issue. [10:11] highest_cubist_thrills Keeping the Debian installer the way it was it would have been better <- imo there was no reason for the installed to take a step backwards [10:11] schestowitz[TR] yeah, I used usb keys [10:11] highest_cubist_thrills devuan was a step backwards in 2015. [10:11] schestowitz[TR] to add the missing drivers [10:12] schestowitz[TR] it was only a problem when the hardware was so bad that no firmware for it existed [10:12] schestowitz[TR] yet [10:12] matteobin You started thinking about what really hardware means. [10:12] highest_cubist_thrills the guy who made the installer for devuan DEMANDED non-free DRIVERS (non-free firmware is a separate issue) [10:12] schestowitz[TR] sdrivers/firmware [10:12] highest_cubist_thrills or he would walk [10:12] matteobin Besides it wasn't so hard to add the firmware on a USB stick. [10:12] schestowitz[TR] for you [10:13] schestowitz[TR] i had to teach my wife how to do all that [10:13] highest_cubist_thrills devuan has never been fully free. theyve talked of a fully free devuan for years [10:13] schestowitz[TR] but [10:13] schestowitz[TR] here is the thing? [10:13] schestowitz[TR] who uses debian [10:13] highest_cubist_thrills i actually used a fully free devuan called gnuinos. [10:13] schestowitz[TR] who will use debian? [10:13] schestowitz[TR] the derivs of debian add those bits anyway [10:13] highest_cubist_thrills debian: the universal sellout [10:13] schestowitz[TR] debian does not target the joe and jane [10:13] schestowitz[TR] and never reallllllllllllllllly did [10:13] schestowitz[TR] thta's why ubuntu exists [10:13] schestowitz[TR] hmm... restrating barrier [10:13] highest_cubist_thrills and ubuntu and debian have been cross pollenating for years, like monsanto and... real farmers. [10:13] matteobin I don't think Debian should be like Ubuntu. [10:14] highest_cubist_thrills I don't think Debian should be like Ubuntu. <- nor do we [10:14] highest_cubist_thrills (nor does any sane person imo) [10:14] matteobin Debian should not by "easy" or "convenient" for the sake of it. [10:14] highest_cubist_thrills i mean those are buzzwords used to push corporate nonsense [10:15] schestowitz[TR] matteobin: yeah, we have chromeos [10:15] highest_cubist_thrills windows is easy and convenient. so is apple linux-- i mean mac. [10:15] highest_cubist_thrills sometimes the linux foundation gets them confused [10:15] schestowitz[TR] to show us what happenss when pushingf comporomise to the max [10:15] schestowitz[TR] email is gamil [10:15] schestowitz[TR] browser is gulag [10:15] highest_cubist_thrills webkit is microsoft. [10:15] schestowitz[TR] desktop lacks bassssic features [10:15] schestowitz[TR] and you can barely get anything done, even if gentoo is the base for it [10:15] schestowitz[TR] chromeOS is a cautionary tale [10:15] matteobin I used NVIDIA firmware and driver on Debian, the non-free ones. However I would have never wanted to change the DSC to reflect a temporary decision made for the sake of convenience. [10:16] schestowitz[TR] when gnu/linux is made "mainstream" and accomplished almost nothing [10:16] highest_cubist_thrills gnu/microsoft https://techrights.org/2020/05/03/gnuhub-pt-1/ [10:16] TR Bot Microsoft GNU-Hub (Part 1) | Techrights [10:16] matteobin Debian should be above that. [10:16] schestowitz[TR] it's global grep -R | ... |sed Microsoft Google [10:16] highest_cubist_thrills I used NVIDIA firmware and driver on Debian, the non-free ones. However I would have never wanted to change the DSC to reflect a temporary decision made for the sake of convenience. <- theres merit in it being the exception rather than the rule [10:17] schestowitz[TR] there is another aspect [10:17] schestowitz[TR] gulag does all that "chromeboot" approval thing [10:17] schestowitz[TR] so you don't get real choice of hardware [10:17] schestowitz[TR] but they bought this company that let's you convert old geenral-purpose laptops into chromeos [10:17] schestowitz[TR] I forgot the name. neverware? [10:17] schestowitz[TR] *lets [10:18] highest_cubist_thrills imagine if everyone knew how to replaced soldered ics (note: leah can do this. i cannot. mjg can. i could learn but lack the patience) [10:18] schestowitz[TR] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neverware [10:18] TR Bot Neverware - Wikipedia [10:18] schestowitz[TR] "Neverware is a New York City-based technology company and a subsidiary of Google. It is the developer of CloudReady, a distribution of Google's Chromium OS designed to be installed on existing computers (as opposed to Google's commercial version, Chrome OS, which is sold primarily as pre-loaded software on netbooks). Neverware markets CloudReady as a means to reuse older computers (particularly at schools), thus reducing electroni [10:18] schestowitz[TR] c waste. [10:18] schestowitz[TR] " [10:18] highest_cubist_thrills we could just sell ics with unlucked bootloaders then. [10:18] highest_cubist_thrills unlocked [10:18] highest_cubist_thrills except for dmca or some bs [10:18] matteobin I liked the Debian approach on non-free binaries, because even if Stallman is right, sometimes there's value in using an NVIDIA if you do have one. [10:18] schestowitz[TR] debian has many derivatives [10:18] matteobin However that should not be seen as a priority. [10:18] schestowitz[TR] and that's good [10:19] highest_cubist_thrills sometimes there's value in using an NVIDIA <- i agree with the point somewhat, more than the example... [10:19] schestowitz[TR] it makes work on debian of very high impact [10:19] schestowitz[TR] inn servers and devices [10:19] schestowitz[TR] like Rapberry Pis [10:19] schestowitz[TR] they don't need to make the base OS/template compromsing [10:19] highest_cubist_thrills with free drivers, pushing only-free was a gambit that worked [10:19] highest_cubist_thrills with free firmwre its far more difficult. maybe to the point where it just wont work [10:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [10:20] highest_cubist_thrills but that could also be because of the degree to which the movement is compromised [10:20] highest_cubist_thrills they don't need to make the base OS/template compromsing <- right [10:20] matteobin Non-free software sucks, I agree. But would it be better to throw away a piece of functioning hardware? NO! Use it, know the issue with it, but don't change the damn DSC because nowadays firmware is everywhere and it cannot be avoided. [10:20] schestowitz[TR] mind you, they did not sell out [10:21] schestowitz[TR] the proposed policy [10:21] schestowitz[TR] or GR [10:21] highest_cubist_thrills and if youre going to have non-free stuff, at least keep it separate [10:21] highest_cubist_thrills you can do that with the repos. [10:21] schestowitz[TR] says put it there but warn the user [10:21] schestowitz[TR] so it's in the ISO [10:21] highest_cubist_thrills not so much with the installer. [10:21] schestowitz[TR] nothing to download on put on media device [10:21] schestowitz[TR] the main issue was network cards [10:21] matteobin It would have been better to have two separate installers. [10:21] highest_cubist_thrills debian is not doing this as a strategy for freedom [10:21] schestowitz[TR] because to get them going you needed some machine with a network [10:21] highest_cubist_thrills therye doing this to cave to corporate wants [10:21] schestowitz[TR] for other things maybe not [10:22] highest_cubist_thrills but they already sacrificed themselves on the altar of ibm [10:22] schestowitz[TR] middle ground: debian include a few bits of firmware to get wifi going on widely used chips [10:22] matteobin With two installers you are forced to make a choice, therefore you must think about it! [10:22] highest_cubist_thrills their soul is sold [10:22] schestowitz[TR] and then fetches the rest over the nwtwork [10:22] matteobin Thinking is good! [10:22] schestowitz[TR] many lapotps have no ethenet port anymore [10:22] schestowitz[TR] and those that do are sold to people with no ethernet cables [10:22] schestowitz[TR] maybe some routers have no ethernet ports either (anymore) [10:22] matteobin Sorry for my language, I'm just a bit sad. [10:23] highest_cubist_thrills https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/compromise.en.html [10:23] schestowitz[TR] highest_cubist_thrills is a pessimist [10:23] schestowitz[TR] that's OK [10:23] TR Bot Avoiding Ruinous Compromises - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation [10:23] schestowitz[TR] but think of it from that POV [10:23] highest_cubist_thrills many lapotps have no ethenet port anymore <- i think this is an exaggeration [10:23] schestowitz[TR] RMS is also a pessimist [10:23] highest_cubist_thrills i do have one with not ethernet port [10:23] schestowitz[TR] but that helps accomplish more [10:23] schestowitz[TR] unlike the "OPEN SOURCCCE HAS WON" crowd [10:23] matteobin I see his POV. [10:23] schestowitz[TR] to quote Friedman too (Microsoft) [10:23] highest_cubist_thrills RMS is also a pessimist <- mincer would say he wasnt pessimistic enough [10:24] highest_cubist_thrills i would agree [10:24] highest_cubist_thrills "OPEN SOURCCCE HAS WON" crowd <- they did. they trampled free software and everything it stands for [10:24] highest_cubist_thrills and sold the movement to corporations [10:24] schestowitz[TR] "Value your freedom or you will lose it, teaches history." [10:24] schestowitz[TR] -RMS [10:24] matteobin I'm sad because this voting to me means that most DDs do not care about open hardware. [10:24] highest_cubist_thrills now the whole operation is basically a sweatshop [10:24] schestowitz[TR] on another occcasion he said ther battle is a perpetual one [10:24] schestowitz[TR] and it's expected we can never win [10:24] highest_cubist_thrills I'm sad because this voting to me means that most DDs do not care about open hardware <- most dds dont care about anything at all. [10:24] highest_cubist_thrills debian stopped caring 7 years ago [10:25] matteobin They would rather have more ignorant users. [10:25] schestowitz[TR] but just fight to make things less bad than they would do WITHOUT resistance [10:25] schestowitz[TR] like women fighting for abortion rights [10:25] matteobin Ignorant != stupid [10:25] highest_cubist_thrills its logo is freedom swirling down a toilet [10:25] highest_cubist_thrills <- former debian user [10:25] matteobin That's a nice one [10:25] highest_cubist_thrills i used to give away free computers with debian on them [10:25] highest_cubist_thrills with the sources. [10:25] schestowitz[TR] we use debian on 4 machines here [10:26] highest_cubist_thrills im sorry [10:26] schestowitz[TR] still our daily driver [10:26] matteobin Debian should educate people both on software and hardware freedom. [10:26] schestowitz[TR] highest_cubist_thrills: it's ok ;-) [10:26] schestowitz[TR] no need to feel sorry ;-) [10:26] highest_cubist_thrills Debian should educate people both on software and hardware freedom. <- including themselves. but its too late. [10:26] highest_cubist_thrills debian stopped caring about freedom in 2014 [10:26] highest_cubist_thrills the die was cast [10:27] highest_cubist_thrills they have always sided with gnome when it was about gnome vs freedom [10:27] matteobin Removing that extra hoop you had to do to install non-free firmware was an educative process. [10:27] highest_cubist_thrills mate valiantly tried to save people from gnome 3 [10:27] highest_cubist_thrills gnome didnt care [10:27] matteobin Maybe I'm just too strict. Who knows? [10:27] highest_cubist_thrills debian crushed mate [10:27] schestowitz[TR] matteobin: thee compromise was not the worst [10:27] highest_cubist_thrills Maybe I'm just too strict. Who knows? <- maybe you have principles for an actual reason [10:27] schestowitz[TR] it still cautions the users [10:27] schestowitz[TR] the way UBUNTU USED to do [10:27] schestowitz[TR] like 10+ years ago [10:28] schestowitz[TR] when you tried adding graphics drivrs [10:28] highest_cubist_thrills matteobin: thee compromise was not the worst <- sigh, that didnt take long [10:28] schestowitz[TR] I forgot the pertinent details, but remember the GUI a bit [10:28] schestowitz[TR] highest_cubist_thrills: there were more than 2 options [10:28] highest_cubist_thrills there usually are, yes [10:28] matteobin schestowitz[TR]: You are probably right, but I'm kinda new to GNU/Linux (about 4 years). [10:29] schestowitz[TR] this is an ongoing fight [10:29] schestowitz[TR] gnu/linux is widely used [10:29] schestowitz[TR] less so on laptops, granted... [10:29] highest_cubist_thrills "ongoing" [10:29] schestowitz[TR] but fewer people buy them anyway [10:29] schestowitz[TR] so there are the mainstreamers [10:29] schestowitz[TR] like chromsOS [10:29] schestowitz[TR] basically spyware built on GNU/Linux base [10:29] schestowitz[TR] and then there are those who try to change the (tech) world [10:29] highest_cubist_thrills schestowitz[TR]: You are probably right, but I'm kinda new to GNU/Linux (about 4 years). <- you missed gnu/linux in its full glory [10:29] schestowitz[TR] those are the ones who scold at firefox [10:29] matteobin I've moved to GNU/Linux because I wanted to change the world for the better and I realised that IT was just a tool for rich people. [10:29] highest_cubist_thrills it peaked in 2013. [10:30] schestowitz[TR] matteobin: it doesn't have to be like that [10:30] highest_cubist_thrills I've moved to GNU/Linux because I wanted to change the world for the better <- its a good start at least [10:30] schestowitz[TR] they lost their old revenue streams [10:30] schestowitz[TR] like ICBM with its "legacy" OSes [10:30] schestowitz[TR] so they have no choice but to embrace the "de facto" OS [10:30] matteobin And because GNU/Linux is more fun. [10:30] schestowitz[TR] which for most form factors is GNU/Linux [10:30] schestowitz[TR] BSD in some sectors [10:31] schestowitz[TR] so gnu/linux got divided [10:31] schestowitz[TR] already int eh 90s [10:31] matteobin C is fun, CLI is fun, suckless is fun: to me it's how computing should be. [10:31] schestowitz[TR] but the drift widens [10:31] schestowitz[TR] as some people reject pentagon giants [10:31] schestowitz[TR] and some people are just market share money market share money market share money market share money market share money [10:31] highest_cubist_thrills BSD in some sectors <- so gnu/linux got divided <- you heard orrectly. bsd went back in time to the 1970s to "divide" gnu/linux [10:31] highest_cubist_thrills those bastards. [10:31] highest_cubist_thrills if anything divided gnu/linux, it was linux. [10:32] schestowitz[TR] highest_cubist_thrills: not that [10:32] schestowitz[TR] I'm talking about community vs corporate control [10:32] matteobin People do care only about money in IT, it's so sad. [10:32] schestowitz[TR] not the kernel/OS parts [10:32] highest_cubist_thrills linux was a fatal wrong turn for gnu. they tried to avoid it. [10:32] highest_cubist_thrills I'm talking about community vs corporate control <- well youre right, that did happen [10:32] *frog has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:32] schestowitz[TR] matteobin: some are not IT [10:32] schestowitz[TR] for example, failed biologists [10:32] schestowitz[TR] who cannot find a job [10:32] highest_cubist_thrills People do care only about money in IT, it's so sad. <- imo anticapitalism is the only hope free software has left [10:32] schestowitz[TR] or zemlin [10:32] schestowitz[TR] a branding loser [10:33] schestowitz[TR] with no relevant qualifications or exprience [10:33] schestowitz[TR] so they start preying on us [10:33] schestowitz[TR] and then try to oust the best engineers [10:33] matteobin And the worst part of it is that they do not want to feel responsible. [10:33] schestowitz[TR] to make a name for themsleves and carve out territory [10:33] matteobin Yeah, I was just talking about my work experiences. [10:33] highest_cubist_thrills youre here for the death of free software, matteobin [10:33] schestowitz[TR] and then bring other clueless people or, worse, our enemies [10:33] highest_cubist_thrills definitely look into its life. its life is just as informative in the good parts. [10:34] matteobin But I'm quite young... maybe things can change? [10:34] matteobin I'll fight for it. [10:34] highest_cubist_thrills things do change [10:34] schestowitz[TR] no, he's her for the fight-back [10:34] schestowitz[TR] few fight back as much as we do [10:34] schestowitz[TR] we acknolwedge there is a problem adn work to be done [10:34] schestowitz[TR] I set aside my career for this [10:34] highest_cubist_thrills no, he's her for the fight-back <- its been 100+ years since the october revolution. [10:34] highest_cubist_thrills the fightback can take a long time to come around. [10:34] schestowitz[TR] this is about tech [10:34] highest_cubist_thrills we acknolwedge there is a problem <- you downplay it for years at a time. [10:34] schestowitz[TR] not full-blown political mayhem [10:34] matteobin I'll probably be dead, but I hope I can help. [10:34] schestowitz[TR] but those are connected [10:35] highest_cubist_thrills not full-blown political mayhe <- obviously you know nothing about the october revolution. [10:35] schestowitz[TR] when "dark budget" of pantagon is feeding the tech oppression [10:35] matteobin I'm not interested in having a career in non-free software. [10:35] schestowitz[TR] *pentagon [10:35] highest_cubist_thrills I'm not interested in having a career in non-free software. <- good call. it would only suck. [10:35] highest_cubist_thrills do you code? [10:35] schestowitz[TR] I need to read more about it, I know what it is [10:35] schestowitz[TR] a friend of mine bought a book on it [10:35] matteobin However I do need a job and I don't know much else to do. [10:35] matteobin I code for work. [10:35] matteobin Don't laugh [10:35] schestowitz[TR] october rev. had nothing to do with tech [10:36] highest_cubist_thrills they overthrew the tsar and created a workers democracy, which stalin destroyed. [10:36] matteobin I'm a full stack web developer at the moment. [10:36] schestowitz[TR] but it was about worker-controlled society, to an extent [10:36] schestowitz[TR] so some parallels do exist [10:36] highest_cubist_thrills you might as well refer to the american revolution as "mayhem" [10:36] matteobin I'm trying to change job. [10:36] schestowitz[TR] and the s/w community can run the 'farms' [10:36] matteobin I've refused several positions because of Windows. [10:36] highest_cubist_thrills I code for work. <- but you code though [10:36] matteobin At least, with my current change I can use Debian an a secondary HD. [10:36] highest_cubist_thrills I'm a full stack web developer at the moment. <- so, server side too? [10:37] schestowitz[TR] matteobin: windows reemote? [10:37] schestowitz[TR] or youw own machine [10:37] matteobin Yes. [10:37] schestowitz[TR] a company that force a PROGRAMMER to use Windows does not get tech [10:37] schestowitz[TR] *forces [10:37] highest_cubist_thrills cool, what do you code in for the server side? [10:37] matteobin Most companies, at least in Italy, use Windows. [10:37] matteobin I code in PHP mostly, a bit of Go. [10:38] matteobin But I would like to work more with C. [10:38] highest_cubist_thrills starstreak loves go [10:38] highest_cubist_thrills she also likes c [10:38] highest_cubist_thrills i coded in php but not since they revamped it [10:38] schestowitz[TR] not just in Italy [10:38] schestowitz[TR] but ggood companies allow gnu/linux [10:38] matteobin I both use Windows and Debian for work. [10:38] schestowitz[TR] esp. for tech staff [10:38] schestowitz[TR] even GAFAM [10:38] matteobin Good companies are rare. [10:38] schestowitz[TR] except Microsoft [10:39] schestowitz[TR] matteobin: and pay little [10:39] highest_cubist_thrills matteobin you can code, so you can fight. but most people have stopped fighting [10:39] highest_cubist_thrills they forgot what its about [10:39] schestowitz[TR] proportionally [10:39] highest_cubist_thrills they defend the software license but not the thing the license exists to serve. [10:39] matteobin Besides what's the use of Debian, when you use Microsoft Teams? :D [10:39] schestowitz[TR] but the total number of people ffighting is still high [10:39] schestowitz[TR] it's just that we're taken away by so-called 'newbs' [10:40] schestowitz[TR] who never got taught freedom [10:40] schestowitz[TR] hence the efforts to discredit and marginalise FSF, RMS... [10:40] highest_cubist_thrills or shills who pretended to care [10:40] schestowitz[TR] "oooh,,, shinny... chromeOS... it's NOT WINDOWS" [10:40] matteobin I don't use WhatsApp. My company does not like it, but it cannot force me to do it. [10:40] schestowitz[TR] "ohhh, let's buy a MAC... to PUNISH Microsoft"| [10:40] matteobin *use it. [10:41] schestowitz[TR] spme companies want "apps" [10:41] schestowitz[TR] and give you "free" phone [10:41] matteobin Life is hard and difficult, but I will try to fight for Free Software. [10:41] schestowitz[TR] so they can bother you 24/7 [10:41] schestowitz[TR] for 'free' [10:41] highest_cubist_thrills I don't use WhatsApp. <- saying no to software that doesnt care about your freedom is the primary mechanism of fighting for free software [10:41] highest_cubist_thrills the secondary mechanism is writing free software [10:41] highest_cubist_thrills you can do both. [10:42] matteobin I've set up a XMPP server for friends and family. The same foes for email and VoIP. [10:42] highest_cubist_thrills nice [10:43] TR News UK blind to new immune-evasive Covid variants creating perfect storm for devastating wave https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/uk-covid-variant-omicron-new-wave-b2183934.html [10:43] TR Bot UK blind to new immune evasive Covid variants creating perfect storm for devastating wave | The Independent [10:43] mjg59_ highest_cubist_thrills: I think "Advocating for software freedom" and "Helping people write free software" ought to fall into that space [10:43] highest_cubist_thrills highest_cubist_thrills: I think "Advocating for software freedom" <- i lump this in with the first mechanism [10:43] matteobin But sometimes I have to do bad things for my company. [10:44] highest_cubist_thrills "Helping people write free software" <- and this with the second [10:44] highest_cubist_thrills But sometimes I have to do bad things for my company. <- companies are like that sometimes [10:44] highest_cubist_thrills if you can move away from that company all the better [10:44] matteobin WordPress sites with Google Analytics. [10:44] matteobin :( [10:44] matteobin I'm looking... ;) [10:44] highest_cubist_thrills you can help people block google at least [10:45] TR News [Old] "We are happy to announce the Radxa Zero, a new member of our SBC family." https://forum.radxa.com/t/introduce-the-radxa-zero/6550/5 | [10:45] TR Bot Introduce the Radxa Zero - Zero Series - Radxa Forum [10:45] matteobin The people who own those sites want Google! :D [10:46] highest_cubist_thrills options arent the same thing as freedom. though a nice side effect of freedom (which some people like lennart complain bitterly about) is that freedom tends to create more options. [10:46] matteobin Thanks for reading me about that Debian decision. I was a bit sad because of it. [10:46] TR News "The research suggests that 74% of the IT decision makers surveyed have already decentralized their IT structures" https://www.techradar.com/news/more-non-it-workers-say-theyre-having-to-do-it-tasks-at-work-now | Source: TechRadar [10:46] TR Bot non-IT workers say they're having to do IT tasks at work now | TechRadar [10:46] highest_cubist_thrills debian has made me sad for the better part of a decade [10:46] highest_cubist_thrills im used to it [10:46] highest_cubist_thrills they never made me sadder than they did in 2021. [10:47] highest_cubist_thrills who knows what kind of bastardly deeds theyll get up to next [10:47] matteobin Was that because of that Stallman hate letter? [10:47] highest_cubist_thrills yeah im not a fan of the hate letter [10:47] TR News instagram https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/01/business/instagram-suicide-ruling-britain.html | Source: New York Times [10:47] TR Bot British Ruling Pins Blame on Social Media for Teenagers Suicide - The New York Times [10:47] highest_cubist_thrills 117 (i counted 108) debian people [10:47] highest_cubist_thrills more than any other group [10:47] matteobin I signed the Stallman love letter. [10:48] highest_cubist_thrills more than gnome, more than ibm (gnome was also very prominent) [10:48] TR News "how technology and modernity are negatively and chronically affecting our brains and behavior." https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/03/books/review/stolen-focus-johann-hari-the-loop-jacob-ward.html | Source: New York Times [10:48] TR Bot Why Cant We Pay Attention Anymore? - The New York Times [10:48] highest_cubist_thrills I signed the Stallman love letter. <- youre already a hero then [10:48] highest_cubist_thrills do you have github account? i mean for anything besides work. sometimes work forces psople. [10:49] matteobin I do, but I don't use it much. [10:49] matteobin I've sent PR for small projects. [10:49] highest_cubist_thrills does it have much on it? would you consider moving to another repo? [10:49] TR News Brazil's election https://text.npr.org/1126161100 | Source: NPR [10:49] TR Bot Brazil's election could determine the fate of the Amazon after record deforestation [10:49] TR News Bitcoin crap https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-18686-8 | Source: Nature [10:49] TR Bot Economic estimation of Bitcoin minings climate damages demonstrates closer resemblance to digital crude than digital gold | Scientific Reports [10:49] matteobin I use GitHub just because some projects do. I send a PR and that's about it. I don't like it. [10:50] highest_cubist_thrills network effects [10:50] highest_cubist_thrills software has mass [10:50] matteobin And when I get in contact with the project leader I try to convince that person to leave GitHub. [10:50] highest_cubist_thrills but they dont because network effects [10:51] TR News Misinformation https://www.dnaindia.com/analysis/report-dna-special-how-american-outfit-iamc-is-spreading-fake-news-about-muslim-and-dalit-genocide-in-india-2989277 | Source: DNA India [10:51] TR Bot DNA Special: How American outfit IAMC is spreading fake news about Muslim and Dalit genocide in India [10:51] matteobin The last three are mine: https://github.com/davidjoffe/dave_gnukem/pulls [10:51] TR Bot requests davidjoffe/dave_gnukem GitHub [10:51] highest_cubist_thrills roy tells people that projects are leaving github [10:51] schestowitz[TR] many are [10:51] highest_cubist_thrills but theyre getting sucked in faster than theyre escaping. [10:51] TR News "There is a kind of audacity in Major Garrett and David Becker titling their book The Big Truth: Upholding Democracy" https://text.npr.org/1126217354 | Source: NPR [10:51] TR Bot Facts come to the rescue in the age of gaslighting [10:51] highest_cubist_thrills so its net bullshit. [10:52] schestowitz[TR] over time there are more git repos [10:52] highest_cubist_thrills has webkit succumbed yet? they were planning to. [10:52] schestowitz[TR] and they go in dirrerent directions [10:52] matteobin I wouldn't use GitHub for my projects. [10:52] schestowitz[TR] if the share that go to shithub is less than what it is now [10:52] highest_cubist_thrills I wouldn't use GitHub for my projects. <- thats good [10:52] schestowitz[TR] thenover time Microsoft loses share [10:52] schestowitz[TR] until it's codeplex 2 [10:52] highest_cubist_thrills if the share that go to shithub is less than what it is now <- considering your phd is basically in statistics, you should know better. [10:53] TR News "Local media reported that the men published content related to Hong Kong independence" https://hongkongfp.com/2022/09/28/national-security-police-arrest-2-hong-kong-men-for-allegedly-publishing-seditious-social-media-posts/ | Source: Hong Kong Free Press [10:53] TR Bot National security police arrest 2 Hong Kong men for allegedly publishing seditious social media posts - Hong Kong Free Press HKFP [10:53] TR News "A hearing date has not yet been fixed." https://hongkongfp.com/2022/09/29/2-hong-kong-speech-therapists-apply-to-challenge-conviction-over-seditious-childrens-books/ | Source: Hong Kong Free Press [10:53] TR Bot 2 Hong Kong speech therapists apply to challenge conviction over 'seditious' children's books - Hong Kong Free Press HKFP [10:53] highest_cubist_thrills let me know when youre not making much of a rounding error [10:54] highest_cubist_thrills the projects that are hostages of github are the ones the movement relies on [10:54] highest_cubist_thrills its nice that some new stuff is being built elsewhere [10:54] matteobin Actually I don't like git web front-ends [10:54] highest_cubist_thrills and in the longrun that will help if those projects are not hijacked too [10:54] highest_cubist_thrills Actually I don't like git web front-ends <- i dont like the web at all [10:55] matteobin There are cool websites. How about this one: https://www.amigapage.it/index.php?op=v&pl=commenti&id=N20092022-2&page=1 :D [10:55] TR Bot Amigapage- Sito italiano dedicato ad Amiga [10:55] highest_cubist_thrills if the web ceased to exist id much rather use alternatives. [10:55] highest_cubist_thrills oh there are some very cool websites [10:56] mjg59_ schestowitz[TR]: https://www.dnaindia.com/analysis/report-dna-special-how-american-outfit-iamc-is-spreading-fake-news-about-muslim-and-dalit-genocide-in-india-2989277 is misinformation, or it is describing misinformation? [10:56] TR Bot DNA Special: How American outfit IAMC is spreading fake news about Muslim and Dalit genocide in India [10:56] highest_cubist_thrills its just the web is never going to stop trying to suck [10:56] TR News "The High Court is expected to hand down a ruling on those disputes on Friday" https://hongkongfp.com/2022/09/28/hong-kong-media-tycoon-jimmy-lai-appeal-against-failed-bid-to-block-police-from-searching-his-phones/ | Source: Hong Kong Free Press [10:56] TR Bot Hong Kong media tycoon Jimmy Lai appeals against failed bid to block police from searching his phones - Hong Kong Free Press HKFP [10:56] TR News "Why it matters: News organizations go to great lengths to prevent the government from seeing their communications" https://www.axios.com/2022/09/30/trump-maggie-haberman-phone-records | Source: Axios [10:56] highest_cubist_thrills its like a rich uncle that wont stop trying to pay you for... [10:56] TR Bot Trump threatened to go after Maggie Haberman's phone records: new book [10:56] highest_cubist_thrills anyway [10:57] schestowitz[TR] mjg59_: what are you, racist or something? [10:57] highest_cubist_thrills he used to be extremely racist (not really, afaik) [10:58] TR News "The information was shared on Twitter by Iranian journalist and activist Masih Alinejad" https://www.firstpost.com/world/iran-woman-arrested-for-having-breakfast-without-wearing-hijab-11362271.html | Source: Firstpost [10:58] TR Bot Iran: Woman arrested for having breakfast without wearing hijab [10:58] mjg59_ schestowitz[TR]: I'm saying that you just made an unclear statement and I'm asking what you actually meant [10:59] TR News Software Patents ... attempts from the back door's Trojan horse https://www.law.com/newyorklawjournal/2022/09/27/recently-introduced-bill-would-revise-patent-subject-matter-eligibility-framework/?slreturn=20220902185510 | Source: ALM [10:59] TR Bot Introduced Bill Would Revise Patent Subject Matter Eligibility Framework | New York Law Journal [10:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 13.78 k/sec., IPFS upstream 111.91 average k/sec., average swarm size 64.33 ● Oct 03 [11:00] highest_cubist_thrills thoughts about the movement https://yewtu.be/watch?v=f74L2hRZE1Y [11:00] TR Bot John Cleese Offered To Kill His Mom To Cheer Her Up | CONAN on TBS - Invidious [11:01] TR News "In this guide, we will cover how to use conditional statements in the bash script" https://www.linuxbuzz.com/use-conditional-statements-if-else-in-bash-script/ | Source: Linux Buzz [11:01] TR Bot How to Use Conditional Statements (if-else) in Bash Script [11:02] TR News "The latest and great version of the Linux kernel has been released with Linux 6.0 out now." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/linux-kernel-60-is-out-now/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [11:02] TR Bot kernel 6.0 is out now | GamingOnLinux [11:05] TR News Pro Publica talks about "trafficking", does not mention it bags bribes from Bill Gates, who was enabling underage sex trafficking with Jeffrey Epstein https://www.propublica.org/article/pig-butchering-scams-raided-cambodia-apple-trafficking [11:05] TR Bot Alleged Cambodian Pig Butchering Scam Operations Raided ProPublica [11:05] TR News "Drones are pretty common in the electoronics landscape today" https://hackaday.com/2022/10/02/winged-drone-gets-forward-flight-capability/ | Source: Hackaday [11:05] TR Bot Drone Gets Forward Flight Capability | Hackaday [11:07] highest_cubist_thrills "this is all lilys fault" [11:07] highest_cubist_thrills "lily alba" [11:07] highest_cubist_thrills "fuck her dreams" [11:16] *techuser has quit (connection closed) [11:17] *techuser (~techuser@vvbde374bfqga.irc) has joined #techrights [11:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [11:28] TR News "Google, Amazon and Apple are all duking it out for supremacy in the spy home space." https://hackaday.com/2022/10/03/homebrew-led-strips-that-are-homekit-compatible/ | Source: Hackaday [11:28] TR Bot LED Strips That Are HomeKit-Compatible | Hackaday [11:31] TR News iophk: DistroTube "avoids even mentioning the OEM monopoly; until vendors are allowed to sell with distros pre-installed, no one will be able to walk into a store and buy an off-the-shelf computer with GNU/Linux" https://odysee.com/@DistroTube:2/linux-must-mimic-windows-to-become:c [11:31] TR Bot Linux Must Mimic Windows To Become Popular [11:31] TR News microsoft windows tco https://www.which.co.uk/news/article/6-windows-computer-habits-you-need-to-stop-avvRw5e9k48z [11:31] TR Bot 6 Windows computer habits you need to stop - Which? News [11:37] psydruid https://wccftech.com/amd-b650-motherboard-prices-msi-budget-friendly-starting-at-199-usd/ [11:37] TR Bot Budget & Mainstream Friendly AMD B650 Motherboards Prices Revealed, Starting at $199 US [11:38] psydruid "Hardware must become expensive for it to be considered budget" [11:38] TR News (NEW): GNU Linux-Libre 6.0 Kernel Released for Those Who Seek 100% Freedom for Their PCs http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/GNU_Linux_Libre_6_0_Kernel_Released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/GNU_Linux_Libre_6_0_Kernel_Released.gmi [11:38] TR Bot Tux Machines GNU Linux-Libre 6.0 Kernel Released for Those Who Seek 100% Freedom for Their PCs [11:40] TR News "i wonder what any of this has to do with tech rights" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-021022.html#tOct%2002%2004:08:38 [11:40] TR Bot IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, October 02, 2022 [11:41] TR News "shuttleworth claimed he didn't think switching to systemd was a good idea, but didn't stop ubuntu from doing so" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-011022.html#tOct%2001%2018:42:42 [11:41] TR Bot IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, October 01, 2022 [11:41] highest_cubist_thrills i got a laptop for 300 new once, but there you have a mobo thats 200 [11:41] TR News ""Insecure Apps" Like Google gives a fuck about your security." http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-021022.html#tOct%2002%2005:08:14 [11:41] TR Bot IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, October 02, 2022 [11:41] highest_cubist_thrills i guess different budget budgets are budget [11:41] highest_cubist_thrills it had a touchscreen. it wasnt a netbook. it was larger. and had a touchscreen. [11:42] TR News "desperately need to hire a designer" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-021022.html#tOct%2002%2008:10:50 [11:42] TR Bot IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, October 02, 2022 [11:42] highest_cubist_thrills /amd-b650 <- yeah, amd [11:43] highest_cubist_thrills we make utter garbage. then we bribe people you know. [11:43] highest_cubist_thrills then we overcharge. whats not to like [11:43] highest_cubist_thrills i dont need to buy amd. i can just pay michael larabel directly for spouting bullshit. [11:44] highest_cubist_thrills thats where the money is going anyway [11:44] highest_cubist_thrills this may sound pro-intel. fuck intel. i hope they die. [11:44] highest_cubist_thrills they both make garbage and the sooner both go to hell, the better [11:44] TR News "The DA1470x is a BLE 5.2 SoC combining an Arm Cortex M33 processor" https://linuxgizmos.com/pro-dev-kit-features-da1470x-ble-socs-for-portable-iot-devices/ | Source: Linux Gizmos [11:44] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/pro-dev-kit-features-da1470x-ble-socs-for-portable-iot-devices/ ) [11:44] highest_cubist_thrills but i have no use for amd because its unusable shit. [11:44] TR News "NVIDIA have done another new release to their developer-focused Vulkan Beta driver with 515.49.19 out now." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/nvidia-vulkan-beta-driver-5154919-is-out-now-driver-51576-causing-problems/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [11:44] TR Bot Vulkan Beta driver 515.49.19 is out now, driver 515.76 causing problems | GamingOnLinux [11:45] highest_cubist_thrills its not hardware. its premium e-waste. [11:45] TR News (NEW): Is your old computer obsolete, or is it a Linux opportunity? http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Is_your_old_computer_obsolete_or_is_it_a_Linux_opportunity.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Is_your_old_computer_obsolete_or_is_it_a_Linux_opportunity.gmi [11:45] TR Bot Tux Machines Is your old computer obsolete, or is it a Linux opportunity? [11:45] highest_cubist_thrills i prefer discount e-waste. wait until someone is disgusted, and give them back some of the money they lost on that bullshit. [11:46] highest_cubist_thrills no ones happy-- but everyone is less miserable that way. [11:46] TR News LOL. How to get BOTH Google and Microsoft to spy on you while you are using PROPRIETARY software. https://www.dignited.com/100680/how-to-install-visual-studio-code-chromebook/ [11:46] TR Bot to install Visual Studio Code on your Chromebook - Dignited [11:46] highest_cubist_thrills thats more than amd can say for their approach. [11:46] highest_cubist_thrills fuck you, amd. [11:47] highest_cubist_thrills please die [11:47] highest_cubist_thrills /me asked nicely [11:47] TR News "Typically, the audio coming out of your camera is not of the greatest quality." https://hackaday.com/2022/10/02/camera-mounted-stereo-mic-is-fluffy-and-capable/ | Source: Hackaday [11:47] TR Bot Stereo Mic Is Fluffy And Capable | Hackaday [11:48] highest_cubist_thrills intel started the same way as amd-- as a relatively generic brand selling someone elses design :) [11:48] highest_cubist_thrills i think thats funny. whats less funny is they still exist. [11:50] TR News "The Queens final act of service to the nation was to selflessly buy the economy one last fortnight" https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/10/02/britannia-unhinged-uks-return-trickle-down-economy-suicide | Source: Common Dreams [11:50] TR Bot Opinion | Britannia Unhinged: UK's Return to Trickle Down Economy is Suicide | Gwynne Dyer [11:52] TR News "Having compressed air available in a workshop can be extremely useful." https://hackaday.com/2022/10/02/a-compressor-of-compressors-breaks-the-noise-barrier/ | Source: Hackaday [11:52] TR Bot Compressor Of Compressors Breaks The Noise Barrier | Hackaday [11:53] TR News "Necessity is the mother of invention" https://hackaday.com/2022/10/02/hackaday-links-october-2-2022/ | Source: Hackaday [11:53] TR Bot Links: October 2, 2022 | Hackaday [11:56] TR News "A court in India has granted what appears to be the most aggressive site-blocking injunction in the history" https://torrentfreak.com/court-blocks-13445-pirate-sites-proactively-to-protect-one-movie-221003/ | Source: Torrent Freak [11:56] TR Bot Blocks 13,445 'Pirate' Sites Proactively to Protect One Movie * TorrentFreak [11:56] TR News "The RIAA has booked a landmark victory against YouTube-ripper Yout.com." https://torrentfreak.com/riaa-thwarts-youts-attempt-to-declare-youtube-ripping-legal-221002/ | Source: Torrent Freak [11:56] TR Bot Thwarts Yout's Attempt to Declare YouTube-Ripping Legal * TorrentFreak [11:57] TR News "election deniers" and "conspiracy theory" lending to the idea that proprietary, back-doored voting machines must never be questioned https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/10/03/debunking-the-latest-2020-conspiracy-theory-from-a-leading-trump-election-denier/ | Source: Counter Punch [11:57] TR Bot the Latest 2020 Conspiracy Theory from a Leading Trump Election Denier - CounterPunch.org [11:58] TR News When Bush steals the election the media moans about rigged voting machines. But now we just have "nazis" and "conspiracy theorists" not trusting those same machines? [11:59] TR News "You can achieve a lot with a Dremel." https://hackaday.com/2022/10/02/making-a-handheld-nes-by-turning-dip-chips-into-qfn/ | Source: Hackaday [11:59] TR Bot A Handheld NES By Turning DIP Chips IntoQFN? | Hackaday [11:59] TR News 3D Scanning Is Over A Century Old https://hackaday.com/2022/10/02/in-a-way-3d-scanning-is-over-a-century-old/ | Source: Hackaday [11:59] TR Bot A Way, 3D Scanning Is Over A Century Old | Hackaday ● Oct 03 [12:03] *matteobin has quit (Quit: leaving) [12:03] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [12:04] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [12:04] psydruid Intel can still reinvent itself by going back to its manufacturing roots, but I don't think there's any such option for AMD [12:04] psydruid so they'll have milk it while it lasts [12:05] psydruid and with fewer systems sold they'll be jacking up prices [12:08] highest_cubist_thrills give me a button and ill nuke twitter off the planet right now [12:09] highest_cubist_thrills boom [12:09] highest_cubist_thrills its got to go [12:10] highest_cubist_thrills its worse than the fucking scientologists [12:12] highest_cubist_thrills twitter is the mafia in digital form [12:13] schestowitz[TR] saudi-owned [12:13] schestowitz[TR] ans weaponised by KSA too [12:13] schestowitz[TR] against journalism and such [12:13] schestowitz[TR] also has moles inside the company [12:13] highest_cubist_thrills thats not really why its like that though [12:13] schestowitz[TR] to rot out users [12:13] schestowitz[TR] KSA 'dissidents' [12:13] schestowitz[TR] like people who want voting rightde [12:13] schestowitz[TR] *rights [12:13] highest_cubist_thrills i mean im sure thats a facet of its existence [12:14] highest_cubist_thrills but not the bulk of its reality [12:14] schestowitz[TR] *rat out [12:14] schestowitz[TR] anyway, twitter is collapsing [12:14] schestowitz[TR] and its further acceleated now [12:14] highest_cubist_thrills and as a facet thats bad enough [12:14] schestowitz[TR] I covered this before [12:14] highest_cubist_thrills anyway, twitter is collapsing <- and its further acceleated now <- youre so naive [12:14] schestowitz[TR] Facebook is now "meta" and "metaverse [12:14] schestowitz[TR] read: losing billions [12:14] highest_cubist_thrills itll happen. you always exaggerate this. [12:14] schestowitz[TR] selling hype to keep shareholders around [12:15] schestowitz[TR] nol, I was right about twitter [12:15] schestowitz[TR] and a whistleblower vindicated me [12:15] schestowitz[TR] prior to it, the musk dispute did too [12:15] highest_cubist_thrills i mean oliva is a whistleblower [12:15] schestowitz[TR] but you want to assert I was wrong [12:15] schestowitz[TR] without showing evidence for it [12:15] schestowitz[TR] I didn't say "twitter will be bankrupt in 2022" [12:16] schestowitz[TR] look at stadia [12:16] highest_cubist_thrills well, heres what i ACTUALLY said [12:16] schestowitz[TR] or "silverlight" [12:16] schestowitz[TR] they never admitted it was dying [12:16] schestowitz[TR] but I called them out on it early [12:16] schestowitz[TR] anyway.. [12:16] highest_cubist_thrills i said youre naive. i said (yes) it will happen. and i said you always exaggerate this. [12:16] highest_cubist_thrills thats what i said. [12:16] schestowitz[TR] posting daily links n now [12:16] schestowitz[TR] biab [12:17] highest_cubist_thrills everything you dont like you say its dying. [12:17] highest_cubist_thrills its wishful fantasy thinking. [12:17] schestowitz[TR] and very often it DOES [12:17] highest_cubist_thrills not that often. [12:17] TR News Links 03/10/2022: GNU Linux-Libre 6.0 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/gnu-linux-libre-6-0/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/03/gnu-linux-libre-6-0/ [12:17] TR Bot Links 03/10/2022: GNU Linux-Libre 6.0 | Techrights [12:17] schestowitz[TR] what did I say would die but did not? [12:17] schestowitz[TR] netflix was another good call btw [12:17] schestowitz[TR] lots of correct calls [12:18] highest_cubist_thrills netflix is dead? [12:18] schestowitz[TR] ying, yes [12:18] schestowitz[TR] many layoffs [12:18] schestowitz[TR] profit issues [12:18] schestowitz[TR] *dying [12:18] highest_cubist_thrills what did I say would die but did not? <- what is actually dead that you said was dying? [12:18] highest_cubist_thrills besides, youre missing the point. i said you exaggerate this [12:18] schestowitz[TR] i did set a deadine for DEATH [12:18] schestowitz[TR] I said dying [12:19] highest_cubist_thrills and what was the deadline... [12:19] schestowitz[TR] aa lot of what I said about rted hat was also very acurate [12:19] schestowitz[TR] but it took time [12:19] highest_cubist_thrills red hat is ibm now. [12:19] schestowitz[TR] I heard from insiders ibm would squash them 18 months later [12:19] schestowitz[TR] it did happen [12:19] schestowitz[TR] anyway, back to links [12:19] MinceR 03 045824 < DaemonFC> After ruining The Daily Show, Trevor Noah is leaving. [12:19] MinceR i don't think he ruined The Daily Show [12:19] TR News (NEW): #HowTo Install Linux Kernel 6.0 on Ubuntu 22.10 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/How_to_Install_Linux_Kernel_6_0_on_Ubuntu_22_10.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/How_to_Install_Linux_Kernel_6_0_on_Ubuntu_22_10.gmi [12:19] TR Bot Tux Machines How to Install Linux Kernel 6.0 on Ubuntu 22.10 [12:19] MinceR i think Jon Stewart's departure is what ruined The Daily Show [12:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [12:20] highest_cubist_thrills unfortunately the worst thing about red hat is still doing us in. [12:20] highest_cubist_thrills gcc is being taken over. [12:20] highest_cubist_thrills ibm is still manipulating the public. [12:20] highest_cubist_thrills and systemd has enjoyed 7 years of takeover. [12:20] highest_cubist_thrills not to mentio the utter destruction of frankly, MOST gnu/linux distros [12:21] highest_cubist_thrills oh except some which (frankly) dont matter. [12:21] highest_cubist_thrills if youre going to talk about these things dying [12:21] highest_cubist_thrills maybe talk about how people should protect themselves from their undead corpses. [12:22] highest_cubist_thrills since i swear it comes down to chestbeating anyway [12:22] highest_cubist_thrills and chestbeating seems a lot more appropriate in victory than defeat [12:22] highest_cubist_thrills but i suppose you can make an argument for it in either situation. just look at russia. [12:22] schestowitz[TR] centos de facto dead [12:22] schestowitz[TR] fedora dying [12:22] schestowitz[TR] no community [12:22] schestowitz[TR] red hat lost popularity [12:23] highest_cubist_thrills fedora dying <- disputed. but i suspect youre right [12:23] schestowitz[TR] and its work is treated with suspicvion [12:23] schestowitz[TR] MANy managers left [12:23] schestowitz[TR] including 2 CEOs [12:23] schestowitz[TR] many LAYOFFS [12:23] schestowitz[TR] and exodus of engineers [12:23] schestowitz[TR] along with managers [12:23] TR News (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/today_s_leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/today_s_leftovers.1.gmi [12:23] TR Bot Tux Machines today's leftovers [12:23] highest_cubist_thrills red hat lost popularity <- theyre a business bueyed by a corporation so powerful, even the holocaust doesnt make customers mad. [12:24] schestowitz[TR] that did harm IBM [12:24] schestowitz[TR] both 21 years ago [12:24] highest_cubist_thrills not enough. [12:24] schestowitz[TR] (the book) [12:24] schestowitz[TR] and to this date [12:24] schestowitz[TR] they don't have a SEC section for "business lost due to PR issues" [12:24] highest_cubist_thrills im not blaming edwin black. society is clearly insane. [12:25] highest_cubist_thrills what it will and wont overlook [12:25] highest_cubist_thrills toejam (hangnail) and autism: big news years later [12:25] highest_cubist_thrills holocaust denial: huge! [12:25] highest_cubist_thrills actually engineering and participuting directly in the holocaust itself: [12:26] highest_cubist_thrills "well, the thinkpad is nice" [12:26] highest_cubist_thrills i mean thats lenovo now, but red hat isnt. [12:27] schestowitz[TR] toejam (hangnail) and autism: big news years later [12:27] schestowitz[TR] holocaust denial: huge! [12:27] schestowitz[TR] you could argue the two are connected [12:27] MinceR the ThinkPad used to be nice [12:27] schestowitz[TR] through antisemitism [12:28] highest_cubist_thrills you could argue the two are connected <- im actually arguing theres a disconnect [12:28] schestowitz[TR] meanwhile I see 0 articles about epstein and gates [12:28] schestowitz[TR] or thighthigh ballmer [12:28] MinceR then they fucked up the keyboard layout, then they replaced the keyboard with a chiclet keyboard, then they replaced the TrackPoint with a shitty knockoff, got shitty fans and shitty batteries and shitty battery latches [12:28] schestowitz[TR] they work for the Establishment [12:28] MinceR and i don't even think that the spring-loaded battery latches are cheaper [12:28] schestowitz[TR] like the troll here [12:28] MinceR oh yeah, they also removed the lid latch [12:28] schestowitz[TR] also works for the Establishment [12:28] highest_cubist_thrills yeah the establishment can do what it wants. its the revolutionaries that must pay dearly-- so say the ancoms. [12:29] MinceR and they probably don't even have user-replaceable batteries anymore [12:29] schestowitz[TR] they just use the brand [12:29] highest_cubist_thrills hardware is generally lower quality than it was 5 or 10 years ago [12:29] highest_cubist_thrills that 300 laptop i had was great as it happens [12:29] schestowitz[TR] people want, cheap, fast [12:29] highest_cubist_thrills but it felt like it was made of cardboard. [12:30] TR News (NEW): Today in Techrights http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Today_in_Techrights.gmi [12:30] TR Bot Tux Machines Today in Techrights [12:30] highest_cubist_thrills people want, cheap, fast <- and they pick two [12:30] highest_cubist_thrills the other one is "good" [12:30] highest_cubist_thrills but people are bound to pick cheap and fast when society is designed to leech all their time and money [12:31] highest_cubist_thrills until cheap and fast is all most people can afford [12:31] TR News GNU Linux-libre 6.0-gnu (-ETOOSIXY) https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/info-gnu/2022-10/msg00000.html [12:31] TR Bot GNU Linux-libre 6.0-gnu (-ETOOSIXY) [12:32] highest_cubist_thrills and they probably don't even have user-replaceable batteries anymore <- what, you mean the clock battery? [12:33] highest_cubist_thrills i doubt thinkpad went sealed capsule like apple [12:33] highest_cubist_thrills then again its times like that i remember "im still not as cynical as mincer" [12:33] TR News Most Dreaded Question of the Day gemini://eggler.smol.pub/most-dreaded-question-of-the-day [12:33] MinceR the firmware is probably fucked up in all uefi laptops [12:34] MinceR as it all descends from tianocore [12:34] highest_cubist_thrills the firmware is probably fucked up in all uefi laptops <- redundant imo [12:34] MinceR i mean, even for a uefi implementation [12:34] TR News "The fewer materials I posses the more cognizant I become of their hollow nature." gemini://dk.smol.pub/1664753729 [12:34] MinceR i doubt the spec says "you must crash before letting the user enter setup if you see an efivar you don't like" [12:34] psydruid the destruction of most gnu/linux distributions was the goal [12:35] TR News "Last year I decided to read Doom's source code to learn how to organize big C projects. Even though my exploration of doom's source code was short I learned a lot from that experience and also made me realize some things that I never thought about Video Game preservation." gemini://djpro.smol.pub/03102022-preserva [12:35] MinceR "how to organize big C projects" -> write them in C++ [12:35] highest_cubist_thrills unquestionably extremely fucked insecure [12:35] highest_cubist_thrills uefi [12:35] MinceR :> [12:36] highest_cubist_thrills the destruction of most gnu/linux distributions was the goal <- of course [12:36] highest_cubist_thrills but "gnu/linux" is dying when when actually is? [12:36] highest_cubist_thrills no [12:36] highest_cubist_thrills ibm is dying when theyre going through the millionth iteration of a familiar cycle? yes! [12:37] highest_cubist_thrills the sun dies tonight! [12:37] highest_cubist_thrills and then in the morning, it is born! [12:37] MinceR sun died when it was bought by oracle [12:37] highest_cubist_thrills ibm is like tinkerbell. if you stop believing, its little light starts to fade and flicker [12:37] highest_cubist_thrills at least until they throw some more corpses on the fire, then its bright and shiny again [12:38] psydruid it's like the renaissance, but it happens every day [12:38] psydruid exciting times are ahead of us [12:39] highest_cubist_thrills sun died when it was bought by oracle <- and my point is, the worst thing about sun is still with us https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_(programming_language) [12:39] TR Bot Java (programming language) - Wikipedia [12:39] MinceR also CDDL [12:39] highest_cubist_thrills which is why roys little funeral for all his enemies is so masturbatory and pointless. [12:39] MinceR also known as "here we declare in writing that slowlaris can't compete with Linux" [12:39] highest_cubist_thrills it accomplishes nothing [12:39] MinceR also, java will still be with us if oracle dies as long as MICROS~1 survives [12:40] MinceR since MICROS~1 Visual Java also exists [12:40] highest_cubist_thrills exciting times are ahead of us <- for now, we live in interesting ones [12:40] MinceR (they call it "C#") [12:40] highest_cubist_thrills MICROS~1 Visual Java <- i just threw up in my mouth a little [12:41] MinceR :> [12:43] highest_cubist_thrills the worst thing about red hat is still with us [12:43] highest_cubist_thrills the worst thing about microsoft [12:43] highest_cubist_thrills is now github [12:43] highest_cubist_thrills and when that goes [12:43] highest_cubist_thrills it will be even worse [12:43] highest_cubist_thrills but it has to-- the longer it stays, the worse it will be when it goes [12:45] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/hemingway [12:45] TR Bot Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Hemingway [12:45] psydruid the worst thing about red hat is that it still exists [12:45] highest_cubist_thrills muriel? [12:45] MinceR o mennen mylar muriel [12:50] highest_cubist_thrills The initial review in the Sunday Telegraph described it as "among the greatest works of imaginative fiction of the twentieth century" [12:51] highest_cubist_thrills that was in the 50s, and hemingway died at 61 in 1961 (born 1899) [12:51] highest_cubist_thrills my guess is he knows what a hobbit is, or at least the authors name. [12:51] MinceR :) [12:51] highest_cubist_thrills its still funny though [12:52] highest_cubist_thrills only took 50 years for jk rowling to rip it off too [12:52] highest_cubist_thrills nice [12:52] highest_cubist_thrills (i enjoyed her version a lot more. except for the scenes with ian mckellan, which were never part of the books for obvious reasons) [12:54] highest_cubist_thrills still it was nice of tolkien to lay so much of the groundwork for her [12:54] highest_cubist_thrills too bad he couldnt also explain what a basilisk was [12:54] highest_cubist_thrills i guess he wanted to give her a chance to learn from her own mistakes [12:58] TR News (NEW): 5 Great GUI Apps for Visual Disk Usage in Linux, Ubuntu [With Bonus] http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/5_Great_GUI_Apps_for_Visual_Disk_Usage_in_Linux_Ubuntu_With_Bon.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/5_Great_GUI_Apps_for_Visual_Disk_Usage_in_Linux_Ubuntu_With_Bon.gmi [12:58] TR Bot Tux Machines 5 Great GUI Apps for Visual Disk Usage in Linux, Ubuntu [With Bonus] [12:58] highest_cubist_thrills Trashing is a particularly vicious form of character assassination which amounts to psychological rape. It is manipulative, dishonest, and excessive. [12:59] highest_cubist_thrills character assassination [12:59] highest_cubist_thrills psychological rape [12:59] highest_cubist_thrills manipulative [12:59] highest_cubist_thrills excessive [12:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.23 k/sec., IPFS upstream 71.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 118.68 [12:59] highest_cubist_thrills better than therapy, mjg: https://www.jofreeman.com/joreen/trashing.htm [12:59] TR Bot Trashing: The Dark Side of Sisterhood [12:59] *horseface (~horseface@9ucczhkmm895g.irc) has joined #techrights [12:59] highest_cubist_thrills years of analysis and treatment in one easy to swallow pill. ● Oct 03 [13:00] highest_cubist_thrills courtesy of one of the worlds most beautiful trans women [13:00] highest_cubist_thrills (and smartest) [13:01] highest_cubist_thrills oh look, its NOT 2022 and you CAN use rape as a metaphor for other kinds of abuse [13:01] highest_cubist_thrills how. about. that. [13:02] highest_cubist_thrills granted jo freeman was probably drawn and quartered by woke twitter shitlords years ago [13:02] highest_cubist_thrills shes probably a terf too, and im not generally sympathetic to them [13:12] highest_cubist_thrills " I have been watching for years with increasing dismay as the Movement consciously destroys anyone within it who stands out in any way. " [13:12] highest_cubist_thrills thought policing, for any good cause, leads to people stepping on each other to be uniform. [13:13] highest_cubist_thrills you better get that cookie cutter just right, because youre going to be stuck with a fuckload of it for years to come [13:13] highest_cubist_thrills if its impotent and self-destructive [13:13] highest_cubist_thrills youll have mandatory impotence and mandatory self-destruction [13:13] highest_cubist_thrills so get that template right before you all beat it into each other. [13:15] highest_cubist_thrills [trashing] "is not disagreement; it is not conflict; it is not opposition. These are perfectly ordinary phenomena which, when engaged in mutually, honestly, and not excessively, are necessary to keep an organism or organization healthy and active." [13:16] highest_cubist_thrills http://techrights.org/2020/08/09/different-circumstances/ [13:16] TR Bot I Would Have Supported the Coup (Under Very Different Circumstances) | Techrights [13:16] highest_cubist_thrills i would have supported the coup if it wasnt just about trashing the founder. [13:16] highest_cubist_thrills if it was honest, reasonable, and about the good of the movement. it was none of those things. [13:16] highest_cubist_thrills it was about trashing stallman. [13:17] highest_cubist_thrills and everyone who supported him. [13:17] highest_cubist_thrills and everyone who supported the ideas. [13:17] highest_cubist_thrills basically it was about destroying free software. [13:17] highest_cubist_thrills whats left is open source-- the fake corporate version of free software that hates your freedom. [13:18] highest_cubist_thrills thats what trashing stallman got us. [13:18] highest_cubist_thrills funny, because when eich was trashed, the same thing happened to mozilla. [13:18] highest_cubist_thrills when torvalds was trashed, the same thing happened to linux. [13:18] highest_cubist_thrills its almost like this is a predictable pattern of destruction that reasonable people can learn from. [13:19] highest_cubist_thrills but unreasonable people... well, how are you supposed to appeal to them. [13:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [13:21] TR News [Meme] Lowering the Bar With Nations That Barely Have Any European Patents (Close to Zero) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/montenegro-marriage-of-corruption/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/03/montenegro-marriage-of-corruption/ [13:21] TR Bot [Meme] Lowering the Bar With Nations That Barely Have Any European Patents (Close to Zero) | Techrights [13:22] highest_cubist_thrills roy says mozilla is dying, same thing happened to it and the fsf [13:23] highest_cubist_thrills i dont know his position on either linux or the fsf at this point [13:23] techuser highest_cubist_thrills: and then you hate me for hating the evil FSF [13:23] highest_cubist_thrills my guess its its being revised (which is fine, it probably needs to be) [13:23] highest_cubist_thrills but hes definitely closer to the fence than ever [13:24] techuser dual opinions like me on some things? [13:24] highest_cubist_thrills pretty soon the fence will have its own fence dividing one side of the fence (itself) from the other [13:24] highest_cubist_thrills this is your half the fence, and this is my half of the fence [13:24] *Techrights-sec2 (~quassel@freenode-j7a7ih.am6e.nqgd.t29qgt.IP) has joined #techrights [13:25] TR News (NEW): String Processing in LibreOffice Calc Macro with Examples [Programming] http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/String_Processing_in_LibreOffice_Calc_Macro_with_Examples_Progr.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/String_Processing_in_LibreOffice_Calc_Macro_with_Examples_Progr.gmi [13:25] TR Bot Tux Machines String Processing in LibreOffice Calc Macro with Examples [Programming] [13:28] highest_cubist_thrills "its true that im more powerful than any of them individually, but as a collective they have a terrifying power that they dont seem to be aware of" [13:29] MinceR hating the evil FSF and attempting to cancel RMS for things he did not say are two different things [13:29] highest_cubist_thrills hating the evil FSF and attempting to cancel RMS for things he did not say are two different things <- the fsf and the fsf are two different things [13:29] techuser the letter was about cancelling the rest of the staff too, iirc [13:29] MinceR also, if you hate the FSF, why do you care who leads it? [13:29] techuser remove the people, maybe something changes. Or it just disappears. [13:30] MinceR oh yes [13:30] MinceR remove the people who occasionally still supported free software, install SJW corporate drones in their places [13:30] MinceR something will definitely change [13:30] highest_cubist_thrills if you hate the FSF, why do you care who leads it? <- if this is about dr sixels views [13:30] MinceR it won't be good for free software, but it will change [13:30] highest_cubist_thrills he probably hated the fsf that was led by a jew [13:30] highest_cubist_thrills now he hates the fsf that is led by trans [13:31] highest_cubist_thrills he wants the fsf that is run by cis white germans. they have that though. its called fsfe and its in berlin ffs [13:31] MinceR lol [13:31] highest_cubist_thrills you can never please a nazi that feels down on his luck [13:31] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [13:32] MinceR why would a nazi feel down on his luck in 2022 though? [13:32] highest_cubist_thrills he will always find something to be sad about and he will always blame the fact that completely irrelevant shit is happening that his logic conflates with his situation [13:32] MinceR nazism is "hip" and "cool" again [13:32] MinceR though they don't dare call themselves nazis yet [13:33] MinceR they call themselves "conservatives" for now [13:33] highest_cubist_thrills in reality, no chapter of the history of the fsf is related to dr sixel making tea with 1 ppm of tea and 999,999 ppm of water [13:33] TR News European School The Hague (ESH) Faces a Crisis and Families of EPO Workers Are Harmed Profoundly | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/european-school-the-hague/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/03/european-school-the-hague/ [13:33] TR Bot European School The Hague (ESH) Faces a Crisis and Families of EPO Workers Are Harmed Profoundly | Techrights [13:33] highest_cubist_thrills but he swears he knows the connection and hes going to bitch until its resolved [13:33] MinceR is he also into homeopathy? [13:33] highest_cubist_thrills no because its unnatural [13:34] MinceR lol [13:34] highest_cubist_thrills he believes in water and tea, not water and lgb-tea [13:34] *frog (~frog@89yam9i74iqzs.irc) has joined #techrights [13:34] highest_cubist_thrills he prefers heteropathy [13:34] MinceR lol [13:35] highest_cubist_thrills they don't dare call themselves nazis yet <- he really is kenneth mars in the producers [13:35] highest_cubist_thrills im a nice person! we arent nazis! heil hitler! please dont tell anyone. [13:37] highest_cubist_thrills hes really like the daleks-- he wants pure history while pretending the events that created it didnt exist [13:37] highest_cubist_thrills he wants pure german computing [13:37] highest_cubist_thrills courtesy of the american census bureau. [13:38] highest_cubist_thrills i know about zuse of course [13:38] highest_cubist_thrills zuse didnt have a fucking z80 chip [13:38] highest_cubist_thrills the longer he talks the clearer it is that he wants purity, rather than sanity [13:38] highest_cubist_thrills but the purity he wants is arbitrary and delusional [13:39] highest_cubist_thrills and sanity only overlaps with his plans for a brief fling before they go their separate ways [13:39] highest_cubist_thrills he gets as far as "things are crazy" and steps 1 and 2 [13:39] highest_cubist_thrills it all goes to hell from there [13:40] highest_cubist_thrills most politics are like that. youre going to get fucked, but if youre lucky you get dinner and a movie first [13:40] TR News Language supporting gender diversity gemini://republic.circumlunar.space/users/flexibeast/gemlog/2022-10-03.gmi fine with me, as long as you don't use plurals for a single person [13:41] TR News AWK the ultimate swiss army knife for data gemini://gemini.clehaxze.tw/gemlog/2022/10-03-awk-the-ultimate-swiss-army-knife-for-data.gmi [13:41] TR News The Ever Present Rumble gemini://thurk.org/blog/575.gmi [13:42] highest_cubist_thrills "i suppose that when shamings are delivered like remotely administered drone strikes nobody needs to think about how ferocious our collective power might be. the snowflake never needs to feel responsible for the avalanche." joe ronson [13:43] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [13:43] highest_cubist_thrills this is why i like the marxists [13:43] highest_cubist_thrills ancoms read history, then cancel the authors and do whatever [13:43] highest_cubist_thrills marxists at least try to fit history into a narrative [13:43] highest_cubist_thrills they incorporate history [13:44] highest_cubist_thrills history knows that revolutions actually result in destruction and death [13:44] highest_cubist_thrills ancoms have their little reigns of terror [13:44] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@22agg6qj8dxhg.irc) has joined #techrights [13:44] highest_cubist_thrills but then after the blood has spilled everywhere theyre like [13:44] highest_cubist_thrills "what?" [13:45] highest_cubist_thrills "dont look at us, we just made this place a lot nicer" [13:46] highest_cubist_thrills if you havent reframed history 6 different ways before breakfast, youre hardly an ancom. [13:46] highest_cubist_thrills relevant: https://www.jofreeman.com/joreen/tyranny.htm [13:46] TR Bot The Tyranny of Stuctureless [13:47] highest_cubist_thrills i hope she doesnt turn out to be a terf. she probably isnt, but you get used to "we cant have nice things" [13:47] highest_cubist_thrills and by nice things i mean we cant have people that understand anything we say [13:48] highest_cubist_thrills because theyve all been beaten into submission by their own closest allies [13:48] highest_cubist_thrills https://yewtu.be/watch?v=wFBHBSPvZbw [13:48] TR Bot All She Wants To Do Is Dance - Invidious [13:49] highest_cubist_thrills i cant stand don henley btw [13:49] highest_cubist_thrills worse than bono. i like a few eagles songs, i mostly cant stand them either. [13:52] highest_cubist_thrills "hundreds of people endlessly bashing someone whos already been knocked to the ground, and feeling all the while like theyre 'punching up'"-- natalie wynn [13:55] highest_cubist_thrills shes been going on for 80 minutes now, and the last 20 minutes is just as good as the rest of it [13:56] TR News (NEW): Get Ready for Ubuntu MATE Experience on Debian Linux! http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Get_Ready_for_Ubuntu_MATE_Experience_on_Debian_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Get_Ready_for_Ubuntu_MATE_Experience_on_Debian_Linux.gmi [13:56] TR Bot Tux Machines Get Ready for Ubuntu MATE Experience on Debian Linux! [13:56] TR News (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Android_Leftovers.gmi [13:56] TR Bot Tux Machines Android Leftovers [13:57] highest_cubist_thrills "the demand for an apology itself is often insincere" [13:58] highest_cubist_thrills of course it is. its just narcissistic abuse. [13:58] highest_cubist_thrills they dont want an apology, they want you to carry your own cross to the crucifixion. ● Oct 03 [14:03] highest_cubist_thrills "in a way, leftist twitter finally accomplished what 4chan, nazis, stalkers and terfs, have been trying and failing to do to me for years" [14:05] highest_cubist_thrills i was worried that stallman was going to kill himself in 2019 [14:05] highest_cubist_thrills i didnt think it was a sure thing, but it was a real concern [14:05] highest_cubist_thrills he didnt [14:05] highest_cubist_thrills i think a part of him has absolutely died [14:06] highest_cubist_thrills and i dont know if he will ever get that back [14:06] highest_cubist_thrills probably not in any way we will be able to discern. we can at least hope he feels differently [14:07] highest_cubist_thrills when youre beaten, attacked, lied to, manipulated, by countless people for long stretches of time, like years [14:07] highest_cubist_thrills it warps. it creates trauma. it affects. permanently. [14:07] highest_cubist_thrills there are ways hes been torn apart hes probably still numb to. [14:07] highest_cubist_thrills he probably cant even tell you exactly how he feels about it. [14:08] highest_cubist_thrills a lot of people can talk about this based on first-hand experience [14:08] highest_cubist_thrills funnily enough, they cant tell you how (if at all) it affects stallman [14:08] highest_cubist_thrills because they dont care. [14:09] schestowitz[TR] see gnu linux-libre announcemenmt [14:09] schestowitz[TR] from hours ago [14:10] schestowitz[TR] suppoerstallman at the bottom [14:10] schestowitz[TR] lxo gets abused for puting the links there [14:10] schestowitz[TR] facts are abuse, you see... [14:10] highest_cubist_thrills These feelings are reinforced when you are isolated from your friends as they become convinced that their association with-you is similarly inimical to the Movement and to themselves. Any support of you will taint them. [14:11] highest_cubist_thrills Eventually all your colleagues join in a chorus of condemnation which cannot be silenced, and you are reduced to a mere parody of your previous self. [14:11] highest_cubist_thrills this was written in 1976. [14:11] highest_cubist_thrills note the next line of text: [14:11] highest_cubist_thrills It took three trashings to convince me to drop out. Finally, at the end of 1969, I felt psychologically mangled to the point where I knew I couldn't go on. Until then I interpreted my experiences as due to personality conflicts or political disagreements [14:11] highest_cubist_thrills stallman survived previous trashings [14:12] highest_cubist_thrills " I felt psychologically mangled to the point where I knew I couldn't go on." [14:12] highest_cubist_thrills "Until then I interpreted my experiences as due to personality conflicts or political disagreements" [14:12] highest_cubist_thrills sounds familiar [14:12] highest_cubist_thrills these arent really new things [14:12] highest_cubist_thrills the web and social media make them seem like new things [14:12] highest_cubist_thrills this is the dark side of leftism. [14:13] highest_cubist_thrills and the alt-right knows that, but so does the radical left. [14:13] highest_cubist_thrills the alt-right points it out because it makes the left look incompetent. [14:13] highest_cubist_thrills the left points it out because without addressing this, the left will always be a bigger enemy to itself than its worst enemies. [14:14] highest_cubist_thrills or close enough. [14:15] TR News Members of the Administrative Council of the EPO Are Asked to Summon a Conference of Ministers of the Contracting States Due to Violations of the Law | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/epo-not-accountable-2022/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/03/epo-not-accountable-2022/ [14:15] TR Bot Members of the Administrative Council of the EPO Are Asked to Summon a Conference of Ministers of the Contracting States Due to Violations of the Law | Techrights [14:16] highest_cubist_thrills "This was communicated so subtly that I never could get anyone to talk about it. There were no big confrontations, just many little slights. Each by itself was insignificant; but added one to another they were like a thousand cuts with a whip." <- 1976 [14:17] TR News epo.org is a load of lies. Horrible. [14:19] MinceR 03 143814 < highest_cubist_thrills> zuse didnt have a fucking z80 chip [14:19] MinceR ah, that famous german company known as Zilog. [14:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [14:20] highest_cubist_thrills "you were being very politely shunned and excluded everywhere you went, and nobody had to put a mark on you (or put your name on a list) because everybody was mirroring the behaviour of everyone else-- [14:21] highest_cubist_thrills if anybody important shunned you then everybody else would do the same. you didnt fit, you would never be part of the community, but to your face they would pretend you were welcome-- or that all you had to do was follow the rules, which wasnt ever exactly true either." <- 2021 [14:21] highest_cubist_thrills the unwritten rule was control and obedience, and mirroring those in control. the written rules were only a cover (an excuse) for the unwritten rule. [14:23] highest_cubist_thrills theres no such thing as a safe space either [14:23] highest_cubist_thrills you can get kicked out of the same safe space you rely on to survive [14:24] highest_cubist_thrills its just one more thing they can take away from you to try to kill you if you offend the gods [14:24] highest_cubist_thrills https://wwahammy.com/on-safety-at-libreplanet/ [14:24] TR Bot Is LibrePlanet Safe? [14:24] highest_cubist_thrills and the gods are petty [14:25] MinceR it's safe for the corporations [14:25] MinceR not for you [14:25] highest_cubist_thrills what a "safe space" really is, is a love-bombing campaign transformed from a toxic relationship phase to a local and ongoing event. [14:25] MinceR only corporations matter [14:25] MinceR that's why the "Linux Foundation" kicked out all non-corporate members [14:26] highest_cubist_thrills it's safe for the corporations <- theyre the only ones who have enough resources to shheild themselves [14:26] highest_cubist_thrills for everyone else its like being inside the reactor with a flimsy suit made of tinfoil [14:26] highest_cubist_thrills that's why the "Linux Foundation" <- the linux fraud, you mean [14:26] highest_cubist_thrills you did use quotes ofc [14:27] TR News Coroner Blames Instagram, Pinterest for London Teens Suicide https://www.maketecheasier.com/coroner-blames-instagram-pinterest-teens-suicide/ [14:27] TR Bot Coroner Blames Instagram, Pinterest for London Teen's Suicide - Make Tech Easier [14:27] highest_cubist_thrills only corporations matter <- corporate lives matter [14:27] *matteobin (~matteobin@3rwucdg8qym5c.irc) has joined #techrights [14:27] MinceR + [14:28] schestowitz[TR] "job creationism" [14:28] schestowitz[TR] it's the new religion [14:28] techuser hi [14:28] schestowitz[TR] hi mate [14:28] schestowitz[TR] techuser: https://www.maketecheasier.com/coroner-blames-instagram-pinterest-teens-suicide/ [14:28] schestowitz[TR] avoid scoial control media [14:28] schestowitz[TR] it's all shit, all of it [14:29] schestowitz[TR] irc is better [14:29] techuser IRC is social too [14:29] techuser it will be ruined via IRCv3 [14:29] matteobin IRC is great! [14:29] TR News Rahul of tecadmin has posted LOADS of junk like this lately https://tecadmin.net/how-to-install-net-core-on-macos/ [14:29] highest_cubist_thrills I had survived my youth because I had never given anyone or any group the right to judge me. That right I had reserved to myself. But the Movement seduced me by its sweet promise of sisterhood. [14:29] TR Bot How to Install .NET Core on macOS TecAdmin [14:29] highest_cubist_thrills you can get kicked out of the same safe space you rely on to survive [14:29] MinceR will IRCv3 be incompatible with older clients? [14:29] schestowitz[TR] techuser: I am trying to understand how ircv3 can ruin it for you [14:30] schestowitz[TR] it most added non-mandatory features [14:30] highest_cubist_thrills its just one more thing they can take away from you to try to kill you if you offend the gods [14:30] schestowitz[TR] so if you lose the connection you can scroll up more [14:30] techuser bloat IRC [14:30] schestowitz[TR] /history command [14:30] schestowitz[TR] blost where [14:30] highest_cubist_thrills It claimed to provide a haven from the ravages of a sexist society; a place where one would be understood. https://www.jofreeman.com/joreen/trashing.htm [14:30] TR Bot Trashing: The Dark Side of Sisterhood [14:30] schestowitz[TR] the server? [14:30] techuser maybe they bring some SJW shit then [14:30] schestowitz[TR] the client side is the same [14:30] highest_cubist_thrills " a haven" [14:30] schestowitz[TR] the server side is still light [14:30] highest_cubist_thrills s safe space. [14:30] MinceR afaik storing history on the ircd side is also optional [14:30] schestowitz[TR] it runs as an OS with about 10 processes in total [14:31] techuser my IRC friend says in Minecraft they added client-side server banning [14:31] MinceR and the client side is backwards compatible [14:31] techuser they can add this shit into IRC as well [14:31] MinceR what is "client-side server banning"? [14:31] schestowitz[TR] that's not irc(v3) [14:31] schestowitz[TR] that's a bor running in irc [14:31] MinceR minecraft is nonfree [14:31] schestowitz[TR] TechrightsBot-tr has this functionality too [14:31] MinceR free irc clients exist, i'm using one right now [14:31] techuser seems it fetches banned server list from Microsoft server and doesn't let players connect to the listed servers [14:31] schestowitz[TR] but we've not used it in over a decaded, just experimentally [14:31] MinceR if they were to add something i disapprove into it, i can fork it [14:31] schestowitz[TR] banning people who use vulgar words [14:32] techuser shit code can exist in free software too [14:32] MinceR techuser: with a free client, such things are avoidable [14:32] highest_cubist_thrills what is "client-side server banning"? <- client side server banning lets you skip servers that lack features (so im told) [14:32] schestowitz[TR] any code can exist in it, but you can remove it [14:32] schestowitz[TR] even linux is getting a deblobified version [14:32] highest_cubist_thrills large networks that dont consist of a single server may vary in available features [14:32] schestowitz[TR] one was rleased hours ago [14:32] schestowitz[TR] gnu linux-libre 6.0 [14:32] techuser when they enforce things like SASL, choices get reduced [14:33] MinceR we don't enforce SASL [14:33] MinceR most networks don't enforce SASL [14:33] MinceR i think even freenode stopped enforcing SASL [14:33] schestowitz[TR] afaik, SASL can also be enforced with IRCv'1' [14:33] techuser SASL is a part of IRCv3 [14:33] schestowitz[TR] we never used it [14:33] techuser but PASS exists in original IRC [14:33] schestowitz[TR] it's not relevant to us [14:33] techuser why do you use ergo ircd [14:33] MinceR PASS has a different purpose [14:33] MinceR \_()_/ [14:34] techuser the shittiest IRCd around [14:34] highest_cubist_thrills linux-libre 6.0 <- they should make a gnu libre that has the ibm crap taken out [14:34] MinceR it's not IRCX [14:34] highest_cubist_thrills too bad that includes gcc. [14:34] techuser moving IRC into embrace, extend and extinguish [14:34] MinceR it's not even the ircnet ircd [14:34] MinceR so it's definitely not the shittiest ircd around [14:34] schestowitz[TR] yesterday I checked pissnet [14:34] techuser they focus on IRCv3 and don't implement necessary stuff like server linking for years [14:34] techuser because some stupid excuses [14:34] techuser or they are evil and not stupid [14:35] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [14:35] MinceR if you want server linking, use unrealircd [14:35] techuser I voted for ngIRCd for a network that I administrate, but it seems it isn't updated anymore [14:35] highest_cubist_thrills "I gave the movement the right to judge me because I trusted it. And when it judged me worthless, I accepted that judgment." [14:36] highest_cubist_thrills "For at least six months I lived in a kind of numb despair, completely internalizing my failure as a personal one." [14:36] techuser I think UnrealIRCd will do evil eventually [14:36] techuser as it is the most used IRCd [14:36] MinceR then that will be the time to fork it [14:36] MinceR and there are many others [14:36] highest_cubist_thrills /me doesnt see a crisis for irc [14:37] techuser unless it is a SJW attack, most people won't care about forking [14:37] highest_cubist_thrills concerns about bloat are fair enough [14:37] techuser SJWs know well how to cancel [14:37] highest_cubist_thrills bloat kills freedom [14:38] highest_cubist_thrills irc isnt in the systemd phase where shit stops being optional [14:38] highest_cubist_thrills and no one gives a shit [14:38] MinceR MICROS~1 tried to take over IRC, that's why IRCX exists [14:38] MinceR they didn't get far [14:38] highest_cubist_thrills the first counterrevolution is often just a practice run [14:38] highest_cubist_thrills whats the thing microsoft had before github roy mentions all the time? [14:39] MinceR codeplex [14:39] highest_cubist_thrills right [14:39] TR News ADILNUV Wordo: TOUGH gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-10-03.gmi [14:39] highest_cubist_thrills took them at least one more try to take over all the repos [14:39] MinceR afaik that was their own thing, not a takeover [14:39] MinceR then they switched to buying corporations to acquire users [14:40] highest_cubist_thrills i think the pattern of "use our thing-- fine then we will just buy your thing" is probably established [14:40] MinceR now it certainly is [14:40] TR News "In the fortieth episode of the WordPress Briefing, Josepha Haden Chomphosy sits down with special guests Anne McCarthy and Brian Alexander to discuss the Testing Team and how to get started with testing in the WordPress project." https://wordpress.org/news/2022/10/episode-40-all-things-testing-with-special-guests-anne-mccarthy-and-brian-alexander/ [14:40] TR Bot Episode 40: All Things Testing with Special Guests Anne McCarthy and Brian Alexander WordPress News [14:40] highest_cubist_thrills i mean github is the ultimate example [14:41] highest_cubist_thrills how about sysinternals [14:41] highest_cubist_thrills much smaller example [14:41] MinceR dunno, i stopped focusing on Backdoors sometime around 2000 [14:41] highest_cubist_thrills lucky, it took me from 2004 to 2007 at least [14:42] highest_cubist_thrills and i was trying in 2001 [14:42] highest_cubist_thrills being a dos fan i started with tomsrtbt :) [14:42] highest_cubist_thrills but with dos i could diskcopy a: b: [14:43] highest_cubist_thrills with tomsrtbt i had no idea how to even copy that non-standard size floppy [14:43] MinceR i started with red hat linux 7 [14:43] highest_cubist_thrills i still dont know how :) [14:43] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [14:43] MinceR i asked for debian install CDs, i got rh install CDs [14:43] highest_cubist_thrills i bought red hat 6.0 but couldnt install it on my hardware [14:44] highest_cubist_thrills i asked for debian install CDs, i got rh install CDs <- you were obviously on the naughty list that year [14:44] TR News "Her familys attorneys have said that in the six months before she died, the 14-year-old showed an interest in 16,300 posts on Instagram by liking, sharing, or saving, with 2,100 of the posts self-harm related" https://www.maketecheasier.com/coroner-blames-instagram-pinterest-teens-suicide/ [14:44] TR Bot Coroner Blames Instagram, Pinterest for London Teen's Suicide - Make Tech Easier [14:44] TR News "There has been widespread news coverage of the death of Molly Russell, a 14 year old British schoolgirl." https://danielpocock.com/molly-russell-suicide-debian-frans-pop-lucy-wayland-deaths-social-media/ [14:44] MinceR :> [14:44] TR Bot Molly Russell suicide & Debian Frans Pop, Lucy Wayland, social media deaths [14:45] TR News Addiction: "She had 5,793 impressions and 2,692 close-ups on Pinterest in that same time frame." https://www.maketecheasier.com/coroner-blames-instagram-pinterest-teens-suicide/ [14:45] TR News "But was her excessive use of social media the fault of the algorithms? Did it lure her into that behavior? Its a hard call." https://www.maketecheasier.com/coroner-blames-instagram-pinterest-teens-suicide/ [14:46] TR News How to make your distro less stable because you lack patience https://9to5linux.com/how-to-install-linux-kernel-6-0-on-ubuntu-22-10 [14:46] highest_cubist_thrills We gathered one night for a general discussion on the state of the Movement, and instead found ourselves discussing what had happened to us. [14:46] TR Bot to Install Linux Kernel 6.0 on Ubuntu 22.10 - 9to5Linux [14:46] highest_cubist_thrills I learned ... years ago that women had always been divided against one another, self-destructive and filled with impotent rage. I thought the Movement would change all that. [14:46] TR News (NEW): Podman vs Docker: What's the Difference? http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Podman_vs_Docker_What_s_the_Difference.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Podman_vs_Docker_What_s_the_Difference.gmi [14:46] TR Bot Tux Machines Podman vs Docker: What's the Difference? [14:47] highest_cubist_thrills i wonder if mjg will ever read this [14:47] highest_cubist_thrills I never dreamed that I would see the day when this rage, masquerading as a pseudo-egalitarian radicalism [would be used within the Movement to strike down sisters singled out [14:47] TR News Lyra V2 open-source audio codec gets faster, higher quality and compatible with more platforms https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/10/03/lyra-v2-open-source-audio-codec-gets-faster-higher-quality-and-compatible-with-more-platforms/ [14:47] TR Bot Lyra V2 open-source audio codec gets faster, higher quality and compatible with more platforms - CNX Software [14:47] MinceR if MICROS~1 pays him to, sure [14:48] highest_cubist_thrills roy could be right, but i think he misses the psychological side of this mostly [14:48] TR News The EPO has totally lost the plot; it completely neglected its mission in pursuit of money and optics http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/montenegro-marriage-of-corruption/ [14:48] TR Bot [Meme] Lowering the Bar With Nations That Barely Have Any European Patents (Close to Zero) | Techrights [14:48] TR News The European School The Hague (ESH) is not functioning like its supposed to; people who migrated (seeking a job) along with family members for an EPO position arent pleased (to say the least) and they request if not demand to speak with EPO management http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/european-school-the-hague/ [14:48] TR Bot European School The Hague (ESH) Faces a Crisis and Families of EPO Workers Are Harmed Profoundly | Techrights [14:48] MinceR > rage, masquerading as a pseudo-egalitarian radicalism [14:48] highest_cubist_thrills maybe mjg only cares about money, but i think he would be driven to do the same for free [14:48] MinceR it's the angle MICROS~1 found [14:48] highest_cubist_thrills yes [14:48] MinceR so it's the angle MICROS~1 uses [14:48] *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #techrights [14:48] highest_cubist_thrills of course [14:48] MinceR it doesn't matter to them what the excuse is [14:48] highest_cubist_thrills by any means necessary [14:48] *psymin (~psymin@user/psymin) has joined #techrights [14:48] MinceR the only thing that matters is leverage [14:49] schestowitz[TR] aye [14:49] TR News The EPO has turned into a farcical operation that laughs at the law, abuses its own staff, and lies to both staff and customers in the official Web site http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/epo-not-accountable-2022/ [14:49] TR Bot Members of the Administrative Council of the EPO Are Asked to Summon a Conference of Ministers of the Contracting States Due to Violations of the Law | Techrights [14:49] highest_cubist_thrills These attacks take different forms. The most common and pervasive is character assassination: the attempt to undermine and destroy belief in the integrity of the individual under attack. Another form is the 'purge.' The ultimate tactic is to isolate her. [14:49] highest_cubist_thrills exiled in place. [14:49] schestowitz[TR] there are PR firms that do this [14:49] highest_cubist_thrills whats amazing about this essay (from 1976) [14:49] schestowitz[TR] we have a whistleblower who saw it from the inside [14:49] schestowitz[TR] she said, [14:50] highest_cubist_thrills is that it got in a time machine in 2015 [14:50] schestowitz[TR] they use "minorities" [14:50] schestowitz[TR] to protect corporations [14:50] highest_cubist_thrills took all the ideas from the alt-right [14:50] highest_cubist_thrills and carried them back in time to the 1970s where they could infect the leftist movements. [14:50] schestowitz[TR] they sell censorship online... they report journalists for hurting women or minorities... to gag their criticism of corporate abuse [14:50] schestowitz[TR] that's like a CoC being weaponised or ToS [14:50] highest_cubist_thrills or of course this has nothing to do with the alt-right. but thats a crazy theory compared to the one with a time machine in it. [14:51] highest_cubist_thrills "And who do they attack? Generally two categories. . . Achievement or accomplishment of any kind would seem to be the worst crime: [14:51] MinceR did CoC-s even exist before they were already weaponized? [14:51] schestowitz[TR] as an aside, the corporate media is controlled by oligarcfhy already...consolidation [14:51] highest_cubist_thrills when cocs were unwritten rules, were they really cocs? [14:51] schestowitz[TR] so they get to choose which leas matter [14:51] MinceR no [14:51] schestowitz[TR] and which whisteblowers to report for [14:52] schestowitz[TR] or to burn [14:52] MinceR you can't point to a document as an excuse if the document doesn't exist [14:52] schestowitz[TR] report to the source [14:52] schestowitz[TR] duckduckgo and startpage were never properly exposed as spying operaitons [14:52] schestowitz[TR] by the "maintream" media [14:52] schestowitz[TR] they bribe many orgs to help them pretend [14:52] MinceR you can't have bureaucrats in the role of deciding who gets booted from the project if those roles aren't formally declared [14:52] highest_cubist_thrills Productivity seems to be the major crime -- but if you have the misfortune of being outspoken and articulate, you are also accused of being power-mad, elitist, fascist, and finally the worst epithet of all: a male-identifier. [14:52] highest_cubist_thrills not a GENDER TRAITOR! [14:52] MinceR lol [14:53] highest_cubist_thrills (race traitor is an actual nazi/white supremacist thing) [14:53] schestowitz[TR] corporations are people [14:53] MinceR my friend [14:53] schestowitz[TR] what genders are corprations? [14:53] schestowitz[TR] also, what is their life expenctancy? [14:53] highest_cubist_thrills As I listened to her, a great feeling of relief washed over me. It was my experience she was describing. If I was crazy, I wasn't the only one. [14:53] MinceR different gender for each corporation for maximum fake diversity [14:53] schestowitz[TR] criticisng OSI is homophobic [14:53] schestowitz[TR] OSI is gay [14:53] schestowitz[TR] I think [14:54] schestowitz[TR] that's what the president of OSI wanted us to think [14:54] MinceR "we all think the same, we all believe in the same things, but we are differently colored and that's all that matters" [14:54] schestowitz[TR] maybe they should register OSI as religion [14:54] highest_cubist_thrills The result was that most of the women at that meeting dropped out as I had done. Two ended up in the hospital with nervous breakdowns. [14:54] MinceR "i can't code but i have blue hair" [14:54] schestowitz[TR] then it's blasphemous to chastise its members [14:54] schestowitz[TR] an act of intolerance [14:54] highest_cubist_thrills Although all remained dedicated feminists, none have really contributed their talents to the Movement as they might have. [14:54] highest_cubist_thrills the real jo freeman is not coming back [14:55] highest_cubist_thrills With each new story, my conviction grew that trashing was not an individual problem brought on by individual actions; nor was it a result of political conflicts between those of differing ideas, It was a social disease. [14:55] schestowitz[TR] well, MinceR and I.. and many others are still here [14:55] highest_cubist_thrills today the disease is known as social media [14:55] schestowitz[TR] it's not "crazy" to say there were attempted to cancel us. still ongoing [14:55] schestowitz[TR] by crazed and resourceful stalkers. [14:55] highest_cubist_thrills but in 1976, it was known as twitter [14:55] schestowitz[TR] who defame [14:55] schestowitz[TR] social control media is about control [14:55] schestowitz[TR] and controllinf the used [14:56] schestowitz[TR] it wasn't like this originally [14:56] highest_cubist_thrills The disease has been ignored so long because it is frequently masked under the rhetoric of sisterhood. In my own case, the ethic of sisterhood prevented a recognition of my ostracism. [14:56] schestowitz[TR] they sought a business model [14:56] schestowitz[TR] they were losing money [14:56] schestowitz[TR] see what FB did with cambridge analytics [14:56] schestowitz[TR] trhry started selling political outcomes [14:56] highest_cubist_thrills The new values of the Movement said that every woman was a sister, every woman was acceptable. I clearly was not. Yet no one could admit that I was not acceptable without admitting that they were not being sisters. [14:56] schestowitz[TR] analytica [14:56] highest_cubist_thrills jo freeman: inclusion is not inclusive [14:56] schestowitz[TR] highest_cubist_thrills: this happens here too [14:56] schestowitz[TR] divide and rule [14:57] highest_cubist_thrills every woman was a sister, every woman was acceptable. I clearly was not. Yet no one could admit that I was not acceptable without admitting that they were not being sisters. [14:57] schestowitz[TR] like trying to blackmail me into not reposting daeamonfc [14:57] schestowitz[TR] and even banning him [14:57] schestowitz[TR] to split a group that otherwise agrees on tech [14:57] schestowitz[TR] cleverer people can smell those tactics from a mile [14:57] highest_cubist_thrills to split a group that otherwise agrees <- idk [14:57] schestowitz[TR] in twitter I get defamed as rape apologist [14:57] schestowitz[TR] I barely had sex with women [14:57] highest_cubist_thrills who here agrees with dfc on tech? [14:58] highest_cubist_thrills i wont lie, ive read a couple things he wrote that were okay [14:58] schestowitz[TR] and yet here we have some sick transphopbic pervert... calling me names [14:58] schestowitz[TR] "toxic masculinity=" MJG [14:58] highest_cubist_thrills and yet here we have some sick transphopbic pervert <- i dont think mjg is 2 of those 3. [14:58] highest_cubist_thrills i think its amusing when you couch it that way, but not accurate [14:59] schestowitz[TR] maybe a little exaggerated [14:59] schestowitz[TR] but no more than he does to us [14:59] highest_cubist_thrills like he does. yuk yuk uyk [14:59] highest_cubist_thrills right [14:59] highest_cubist_thrills no i got it [14:59] schestowitz[TR] btw, [14:59] schestowitz[TR] transphopbic rhetoric is a symptom [14:59] highest_cubist_thrills i call you out on it but i also acknowledge that-- well, as an ironic joke its [14:59] schestowitz[TR] usually men who try to impress other men [14:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 13.71 k/sec., IPFS upstream 146.21 average k/sec., average swarm size 136.50 [14:59] schestowitz[TR] about how machoi they are [14:59] highest_cubist_thrills like he does. yuk yuk uyk [14:59] schestowitz[TR] to compensate for things [14:59] schestowitz[TR] like him being bald and very thin ● Oct 03 [15:00] schestowitz[TR] so he goes on and on about how "that other group" is [insult] [15:00] highest_cubist_thrills usually men who try to impress other men to compensate for things <- incel culture is like this [15:00] schestowitz[TR] I never bothered [15:00] highest_cubist_thrills they care more about bragging than getting laid, even when they get something to brag about [15:00] schestowitz[TR] too busy with my 'puter [15:00] schestowitz[TR] online, trans people are good allies [15:00] schestowitz[TR] they are very productive [15:00] schestowitz[TR] they spend a lot of time online [15:00] highest_cubist_thrills idk, i find computers as frustrating as women [15:00] schestowitz[TR] to escape hecklers in society [15:00] highest_cubist_thrills and the latter are a welcome distraction at times [15:01] schestowitz[TR] depends [15:01] schestowitz[TR] but anyway, many in gemini are trans [15:01] schestowitz[TR] many developoers are too [15:01] schestowitz[TR] because it's an escape [15:01] schestowitz[TR] escape from people trying to not "miss out" [15:01] schestowitz[TR] while calling them names [15:02] highest_cubist_thrills id sooner expect it had more to do with the autism dovetail [15:02] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [15:02] highest_cubist_thrills but yeah sure [15:02] schestowitz[TR] fwiw, I think I know why dmccc name-calls groups [15:02] schestowitz[TR] his life always sucked [15:02] schestowitz[TR] beaten up, rejected by parents etc. [15:02] schestowitz[TR] and now poor and lonely [15:02] schestowitz[TR] not that it makes race-baiting ok [15:02] schestowitz[TR] *dmcc - typo [15:02] schestowitz[TR] brb [15:03] highest_cubist_thrills you lay into him as ruthlessly as mjg does when you talk like that [15:03] highest_cubist_thrills i can guess why [15:03] highest_cubist_thrills only difference is you let him talk and mjg tries to stop that [15:03] schestowitz[TR] no, he is being racist [15:03] schestowitz[TR] and it puts peopple off [15:03] schestowitz[TR] it's not ok [15:03] highest_cubist_thrills yeah it puts me off [15:03] schestowitz[TR] but I don't ban, I confront [15:03] schestowitz[TR] banning means he goes to worse forums [15:03] schestowitz[TR] where people agree with him on this stuff [15:05] schestowitz[TR] sorry, got distracted [15:05] schestowitz[TR] sent message to friend [15:05] schestowitz[TR] rianne has just sent her application [15:05] highest_cubist_thrills https://yewtu.be/watch?v=N8mzQKl1LH8 [15:05] TR Bot White privilege - Invidious [15:05] schestowitz[TR] we needed to thank some people [15:06] schestowitz[TR] anyway, dfc is in a bad situation, it's not an excuse though [15:06] schestowitz[TR] but I won't ban him [15:06] schestowitz[TR] we had worse than him [15:06] highest_cubist_thrills let me know when he ditches his eugenics [15:06] highest_cubist_thrills we had worse than him <- oh? [15:07] schestowitz[TR] yeah, ages ago [15:07] schestowitz[TR] lots of terrible trolls [15:07] schestowitz[TR] crica 2009 [15:07] highest_cubist_thrills /me imagines [15:07] schestowitz[TR] it was hard to have the channel on without some babysitting [15:07] schestowitz[TR] MinceR was the netkkjop [15:07] schestowitz[TR] anti-linus groups infested the placer at time [15:07] highest_cubist_thrills mincer should get an honourary ptsd diagnosis [15:08] schestowitz[TR] flooding, crashing, throwing the worst text you can imagine [15:08] schestowitz[TR] to vandalise it [15:08] schestowitz[TR] some of them orgnaised and coordinated in dedicated anti-linus sites [15:08] schestowitz[TR] which no longer exist [15:08] highest_cubist_thrills anti-linus groups <- its probably the blanket. but hes like indiana jones with that blanket. [15:08] schestowitz[TR] *anti-linux [15:08] schestowitz[TR] i have that in some old bookmarks, but the links would n not work, unless you use wayback lachine [15:08] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@22agg6qj8dxhg.irc) has joined #techrights [15:09] highest_cubist_thrills were they really anti-linux [15:09] highest_cubist_thrills or just anti-cola [15:09] highest_cubist_thrills because the ones i saw were anti-cola [15:09] schestowitz[TR] we actually are way ahead and left behind the worst trolling [15:09] schestowitz[TR] the media too clamed down the FUD a bit [15:09] schestowitz[TR] but mostly because the media is dyiing [15:09] highest_cubist_thrills lol [15:09] schestowitz[TR] not because it "calmed" down by choice [15:09] highest_cubist_thrills _________ is dying [15:09] schestowitz[TR] look at zdnet. [15:09] schestowitz[TR] 11+ days, no "linus" article [15:10] schestowitz[TR] *linus [15:10] schestowitz[TR] ->*linux [15:10] schestowitz[TR] tthe only linus article they did last month was rust spam [15:10] schestowitz[TR] promoting rust [15:10] schestowitz[TR] microsoft github [15:10] schestowitz[TR] trying to use his name/status to endorse it [15:10] highest_cubist_thrills rust is one thing on github that would be just as terrible anywhere else. [15:11] schestowitz[TR] linus is The Godfather of the Open Source movement, [sic] according to Intels CEO. [15:11] schestowitz[TR] http://techrights.org/2022/09/30/linus-torvalds-award/ [15:11] TR Bot Intel Treats Linus Torvalds as a Marketing Mascot | Techrights [15:11] schestowitz[TR] then, in the regioster [15:11] schestowitz[TR] zdnet's sjvn [15:11] schestowitz[TR] cited MICROSOFT as endorser of Rust [15:11] schestowitz[TR] inside Linux [15:11] highest_cubist_thrills linus-torvalds-award <- do they give this to recognise sellouts, hostages of their own creations, what? [15:11] schestowitz[TR] and then another person in the Reg (Reuper)( did the same [15:11] highest_cubist_thrills if its the latter, they could give stallman one [15:11] schestowitz[TR] it's like a Microsoft/GitHub PR campaign [15:11] schestowitz[TR] paid for [15:12] schestowitz[TR] Intel is all about ME ME ME [15:12] schestowitz[TR] RMS does nto tolerate "ME" [15:12] schestowitz[TR] or PSP [15:12] schestowitz[TR] not playstation portable [15:13] highest_cubist_thrills mincer: "As long as the standard is vague and utopian, it can never be met. But it can be shifted with circumstances to exclude those not desired as sisters. " [15:13] highest_cubist_thrills sounds very coc-like. maybe there WAS an unwritten coc [15:13] highest_cubist_thrills at least in feminism. [15:13] TR News My last Overwatch 1 highlight ever. LET EM RIP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fr55L_mQ0TM [15:13] TR Bot https://inv.riverside.rocks/watch?v=Fr55L_mQ0TM [15:13] TR Bot inv.riverside.rocks | My last Overwatch 1 highlight ever. LET EM RIP - Invidious [15:13] highest_cubist_thrills note it was feminists who introduced the coc to free software. [15:13] highest_cubist_thrills feminist wiki, wasnt it? [15:14] highest_cubist_thrills Thus Ti-Grace Atkinson's memorable adage that "sisterhood is powerful: it kills sisters" is reaffirmed again and again. [15:14] highest_cubist_thrills Trashing is not only destructive to the individuals involved, but serves as a very powerful tool of social control. The qualities and styles which are attacked become examples other women learn not to follow -- lest the same fate befall them. [15:14] highest_cubist_thrills they werent just cancelling stallman, but anyone like him. [15:15] highest_cubist_thrills "This is not a characteristic peculiar to the Women's Movement, or even to women. The use of social pressures to induce conformity and intolerance for individuality is endemic to American society." <- 1976 [15:15] highest_cubist_thrills "The use of social pressures to induce conformity and intolerance for individuality is endemic" [15:15] highest_cubist_thrills this was written less than 10 years before the fsf was founded. [15:16] highest_cubist_thrills "This standard is clothed in the rhetoric of revolution and feminism. But underneath are some very traditional ideas about women's proper roles." [15:16] TR News The ULTIMATE Steam Deck emulation setup is easier than ever! - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=NEhlY-r_6Uw | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/NEhlY-r_6Uw [15:16] TR Bot The ULTIMATE Steam Deck emulation setup is easier than ever! - Invidious [15:17] highest_cubist_thrills This standard is clothed in the rhetoric of revolution and freedom, but underneath are some very traditional ideas about workers' and users' proper roles. [15:17] TR News Debian Accepted mutter 43~beta-3 (source) into experimental https://tracker.debian.org/news/1356285/accepted-mutter-43beta-3-source-into-experimental/ [15:17] TR Bot Debian Package Tracker [15:17] TR News [GIT PULL] hwmon updates for v6.1 - Guenter Roeck https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20221003000230.1008396-1-linux@roeck-us.net/ Source: Guenter Roeck | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/20221003000230.1008396-1-linux@roeck-us.net/ [15:17] TR Bot [GIT PULL] hwmon updates for v6.1 - Guenter Roeck [15:17] TR News [GIT PULL] STATX_DIOALIGN for 6.1 - Eric Biggers https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/YzpXpalOcvwp+keu@quark/ [15:17] highest_cubist_thrills The quest for "leaderlessness" that the Movement so prizes has more frequently become an attempt to tear down those women who show leadership qualities <- psydruid https://www.jofreeman.com/joreen/trashing.htm [15:17] TR Bot [GIT PULL] STATX_DIOALIGN for 6.1 - Eric Biggers [15:18] TR Bot Trashing: The Dark Side of Sisterhood [15:18] TR News Test your Linux system with LTP | Enable Sysadmin https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/linux-test-project-ltp Source: Red Hat Official | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.redhat.com/sysadmin/linux-test-project-ltp [15:18] TR Bot Test your Linux system with LTP | Enable Sysadmin [15:18] highest_cubist_thrills Many women who have tried to share their skills have been trashed for asserting that they know something others don't. The Movement's worship of egalitarianism is so strong that it has become confused with sameness. [15:18] highest_cubist_thrills that means standing out would be confused with privilege [15:19] highest_cubist_thrills and the cure to put the person standing out in their place? making them stand out more. [15:19] highest_cubist_thrills if they want privilege, we will give them the privilege! [15:19] highest_cubist_thrills just my interpretation? [15:19] highest_cubist_thrills "Women who remind us that we are not all the same are trashed because their differentness is interpreted as meaning we are not all equal." [15:19] TR News "That takes away precious hours, so its no wonder that 58% of US workers believe they can work remotely and finish job tasks on time." https://medevel.com/working-from-home-these-4-tips-will-help-you-to-stay-productive/ [15:19] TR Bot Working from Home? These 4 Tips Will Help You to Stay Productive [15:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [15:20] highest_cubist_thrills "Trashing only discourages other women from trying to break free of their traditional shackles." [15:21] TR News 10 Best IntelliJ Themes and Color Schemes To Use in 2022 https://www.ubuntupit.com/best-intellij-themes-and-color-schemes/ Source: Ubuntu Pit | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.ubuntupit.com/best-intellij-themes-and-color-schemes/ [15:21] TR Bot 10 Best IntelliJ Themes and Color Schemes To Use in 2022 [15:21] highest_cubist_thrills heres a blast from the present: [15:21] highest_cubist_thrills "Once under attack, there is little a woman can do to defend herself because she is by definition always wrong." <- 1976 [15:21] highest_cubist_thrills nothing like cancel culture at all! [15:21] TR News In proceedings before CIC, IFF obtains website censorship orders from DoT and MTNL https://internetfreedom.in/in-proceedings-before-cic-iff-obtains-website-censorship-orders-from-dot-and-mtnl/ Source: Internet Freedom Foundation | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//internetfreedom.in/in-proceedings-before-cic-iff-obtains-website-censorship-orders-from-dot-and-mtnl/ [15:21] TR Bot In proceedings before CIC, IFF obtains website censorship orders from DoT and MTNL [15:22] *horseface has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:22] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [15:22] highest_cubist_thrills Trashing involves heavy use of the verb "to be" and only a light use of the verb "to do." [15:23] highest_cubist_thrills "Trashers also tend to use nouns and adjectives of a vague and general sort to express their objections to a particular person." [15:23] highest_cubist_thrills once again for mjg [15:23] highest_cubist_thrills "Trashers also tend to use nouns and adjectives of a vague and general sort to express their objections to a particular person." [15:24] highest_cubist_thrills from jo freeman in 1976, describing how feminists tear each other down and push each other into dropping out (her words) of the movement [15:24] highest_cubist_thrills "These terms carry a negative connotation, but don't really tell you what's wrong. That is left to your imagination. Those being trashed can do nothing right. Because they are bad, their motives are bad, and hence their actions are always bad." [15:24] highest_cubist_thrills There is no making up for past mistakes, because these are perceived as symptoms and not mistakes. [15:25] highest_cubist_thrills The acid test, however, comes when one tries to defend a person under attack, especially when she's not there, If such a defense is taken seriously, and some concern expressed for hearing all sides and gathering all evidence, trashing is probably not occurring. [15:25] MinceR https://www.oglaf.com/wilyworm/ [15:25] TR Bot The Wily Worm [15:25] highest_cubist_thrills But if your defense is dismissed with an oft-hand "How can you defend her?" [15:25] highest_cubist_thrills sarah mei, grand inquisitor, salesforce [15:26] TR News "This is, of course, not the last word. Deepfake generators will figure out how to use these techniques to create harder-to-detect fake voices. And the deepfake detectors will figure out another, better, detection technique. And the arms race will continue." https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/10/detecting-deepfake-audio-by-modeling-the-human-acoustic-tract.html [15:26] TR Bot Deepfake Audio by Modeling the Human Acoustic Tract - Schneier on Security [15:28] TR News (NEW): OpenMandriva ROME Gold Candidate http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Some_of_the_major_changes_since_ROME_Silver_Candidate.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Some_of_the_major_changes_since_ROME_Silver_Candidate.gmi [15:28] TR Bot Tux Machines OpenMandriva ROME Gold Candidate [15:28] TR News (NEW): ANAVI Macro Pad 10 - Knobs input devices run KMK firmware on Raspberry Pi RP2040 (Crowdfunding) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/ANAVI_Macro_Pad_10_Knobs_input_devices_run_KMK_firmware_on_Rasp.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/ANAVI_Macro_Pad_10_Knobs_input_devices_run_KMK_firmware_on_Rasp.gmi [15:28] TR Bot Tux Machines ANAVI Macro Pad 10 - Knobs input devices run KMK firmware on Raspberry Pi RP2040 (Crowdfunding) [15:29] TR News (NEW): Streaming with Linux: TIDAL http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Streaming_with_Linux_TIDAL.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Streaming_with_Linux_TIDAL.gmi [15:29] TR Bot Tux Machines Streaming with Linux: TIDAL [15:30] highest_cubist_thrills The New Puritans Mob Justice Is Trampling Democratic Discourse (Archived) By Anne Applebaum on The Atlantic. [15:30] highest_cubist_thrills ^ via stallmansupport website [15:30] schestowitz[TR] cann how > how DARE [15:30] schestowitz[TR] "HOW DARE you defend RMS? think of the children" [15:31] schestowitz[TR] me: whose? bill gates and jeffrey epstein;s? [15:31] schestowitz[TR] lxo got some abuse? [15:31] highest_cubist_thrills [trashing] is much more prevalent among those who call themselves radical than among those who don't; among those who stress personal changes than among those who stress institutional ones [15:31] schestowitz[TR] how DARE his template email sign have a link to a site called stallmansupport?? [15:32] schestowitz[TR] we don't need facts [15:32] schestowitz[TR] the twittercourt has already ruled [15:32] schestowitz[TR] guilty [15:32] schestowitz[TR] for door sign etc. [15:32] schestowitz[TR] many peoppele still believe this btw [15:32] schestowitz[TR] and when I show them it's fake [15:32] highest_cubist_thrills There is nothing new about discouraging women from stepping out of place by the use of psychological manipulation. This is one of the things that have kept women down for years; it is one thing that feminism was supposed to liberate us from. [15:32] schestowitz[TR] their reaction is, "wel... OK,... but [ssome other crap]" [15:32] highest_cubist_thrills free software, free speech, free society [15:33] schestowitz[TR] the confiormation bias is there [15:33] schestowitz[TR] people don't like to admit [15:33] schestowitz[TR] culpabilioty [15:33] schestowitz[TR] and [15:33] highest_cubist_thrills Yet, instead of an alternative culture with alternative values, we have created alternative means of enforcing the traditional culture and values. Only the name has changed; the results are the same. [15:33] schestowitz[TR] gullibility [15:33] schestowitz[TR] so they will loom for somer other ammo [15:33] highest_cubist_thrills microsoft github gnu. [15:33] schestowitz[TR] sfc lf a bunch of .tools [15:33] highest_cubist_thrills "Rage is a logical result of oppression. It demands an outlet." [15:34] highest_cubist_thrills sfc lf a bunch of .tools <- penfold.tools [15:34] schestowitz[TR] I first read that as "repe" [15:34] schestowitz[TR] *rape" [15:34] schestowitz[TR] "he raped me with his mind" [15:34] schestowitz[TR] "I think he pictures me naked" [15:34] highest_cubist_thrills "Because most women are surrounded by men whom they have learned it is not wise to attack, their rage is often turned inward." [15:34] schestowitz[TR] meanwhile, apple exac openly speaks about fondling large breasts [15:35] schestowitz[TR] keeps all his income [15:35] schestowitz[TR] "steps down" iirc [15:35] highest_cubist_thrills the same goes for men on the spectrum usually [15:35] schestowitz[TR] until he is epxected to do the imposible [15:35] schestowitz[TR] lecture in portuguese [15:35] schestowitz[TR] after travellingg andpreparing for weeks [15:35] highest_cubist_thrills One can feel the sense of power that comes from having "done something." [15:35] highest_cubist_thrills Trying to change an entire society is a very slow, frustrating process in which gains are incremental, rewards diffuse, and setbacks frequent. [15:36] highest_cubist_thrills It is not a coincidence that trashing occurs most often and most viciously by those feminists who see the least value in small, impersonal changes and thus often find themselves unable to act against specific institutions. [15:36] schestowitz[TR] you kknow, it's offline now, but one think I always remember [15:36] schestowitz[TR] from identi.ca iirc [15:36] schestowitz[TR] ggreve defended rms after that incident [15:36] highest_cubist_thrills The Movement's emphasis on "the personal is political" has made it easier for trashing to flourish. We began by deriving some of our political ideas from our analysis of our personal lives. [15:36] schestowitz[TR] and blasted people who uploaded that clip [15:36] highest_cubist_thrills ggreve defended rms after that incident <- yeah [15:36] schestowitz[TR] not sure which platform to [15:36] schestowitz[TR] maybe some raw mp4 [15:36] highest_cubist_thrills too bad the rest of fsfe are mostly traitors [15:36] schestowitz[TR] so you know original fefe was OK [15:36] schestowitz[TR] ggreve was not compromised [15:36] schestowitz[TR] *fsfe [15:37] schestowitz[TR] he even defended rms after the freakout [15:37] highest_cubist_thrills Trashing is also a way of acting out the competitiveness that pervades our society, but in a manner that reflects the feelings of incompetence that trashers exhibit. [15:37] highest_cubist_thrills he even defended rms after the freakout <- its called a meltdown [15:37] schestowitz[TR] ggreve swiss [15:37] schestowitz[TR] iirc [15:37] schestowitz[TR] or german who moved to .ch [15:37] schestowitz[TR] the current fsfe is all german [15:37] schestowitz[TR] they appeear to have reported me to twitter [15:37] highest_cubist_thrills seizures are called seizures because theyre a medical phenomenon [15:38] schestowitz[TR] for merely using the hashtag #gulagdeutschland to describe the org [15:38] highest_cubist_thrills they arent someone going insane-- theyre a failure of the brain to function normally for a time. [15:38] schestowitz[TR] ttwitter sided with me [15:38] schestowitz[TR] nazis don't mind being called nazis [15:38] schestowitz[TR] but when there is gulag $ at stake [15:38] highest_cubist_thrills stallmans meltdown wasnt a freakout-- its an occurance of [15:38] schestowitz[TR] then they get all nazi about it [15:38] schestowitz[TR] and become moderation nazis [15:38] highest_cubist_thrills i m ean you can use whatever word you want to [15:38] schestowitz[TR] and ask to 'denazify' twitter [15:39] highest_cubist_thrills its just one is stupid and thoughtless and the other shows understanding and compassion [15:39] highest_cubist_thrills by all means ill defend your right to use the stupid and thoughtless one [15:39] highest_cubist_thrills but ill also recommend you stop calling a freakout [15:39] schestowitz[TR] ok [15:39] schestowitz[TR] what would you call it? [15:39] schestowitz[TR] breakdown? [15:39] highest_cubist_thrills he had a meltdown or a panic attack [15:40] schestowitz[TR] ah, yes, better wording [15:40] highest_cubist_thrills in autism its called a meltdown. its more broadly referring to as a panic attack [15:40] schestowitz[TR] not sure what freakout means 'technically' [15:40] schestowitz[TR] yeah, I heard that [15:40] highest_cubist_thrills neither of these phrases are thoughtless or dismissive [15:40] schestowitz[TR] like when the shops ran out of toilet paper [15:40] schestowitz[TR] and people who were blind and stuff suffered breakdowns in stores [15:41] highest_cubist_thrills yeah feel free to say society is freaking out collectively when its being insane [15:41] highest_cubist_thrills im not against using the word crazy when its as appropriate as any other wording [15:41] TR News "Its best to have an entire room to yourself since privacy matters. People passing by are a distraction, especially if they often throw random comments. But even if you dont have a whole room to work in, you can create an office corner." https://medevel.com/working-from-home-these-4-tips-will-help-you-to-stay-productive/ [15:41] TR Bot Working from Home? These 4 Tips Will Help You to Stay Productive [15:42] highest_cubist_thrills some people are, i think theyre nuts. [15:42] TR News SWI-Prolog version 8.4.3 (stable) released on 22 June 2022 https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Swi-prolog [15:42] highest_cubist_thrills the reason im a stickler (and only a little) about things used to describe stallman [15:42] TR Bot Swi-prolog - Free Software Directory [15:43] highest_cubist_thrills nearly every one of them has a term for it among people on the spectrum [15:43] schestowitz[TR] an ex of his wrote that he had a phobia of being under water [15:43] highest_cubist_thrills his "freakout" was a meltdown. a lot of people can relate to tht event. [15:43] schestowitz[TR] and his head in particular [15:43] highest_cubist_thrills but maybe not as many people can related to those people. [15:43] schestowitz[TR] which his why he did not wash his hair for long periods of time [15:43] schestowitz[TR] until he got over that phobia [15:43] highest_cubist_thrills his "toejam" was probably just a hangnail for fucks sake [15:43] highest_cubist_thrills have you never bitten a hangnail when clippers werent handy? [15:44] highest_cubist_thrills its gross that it was one on his foot yes [15:44] XRevan86 https://nitter.it/JuliaDavisNews/status/1576796427409559558#m [15:44] TR Bot Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Tonight on Russian state TV: the mood is grim, look at their faces. Dmitry Sablin, Deputy Chairman of the Defense Committee, admits that Russia desperately needs "to stop and regroup" and is experiencing all sorts of shortages, compared to Ukraine that has it all and then some."|nitter.it [15:44] highest_cubist_thrills society has a THING about feet [15:44] highest_cubist_thrills ew, feet. [15:44] schestowitz[TR] and dicks... see clinton... [15:44] schestowitz[TR] and antony weiner [15:44] *horseface (~horseface@9ucczhkmm895g.irc) has joined #techrights [15:44] schestowitz[TR] it's always feet and dicks [15:44] highest_cubist_thrills probably not autism but yeah [15:44] schestowitz[TR] sounds like some fetish domain name [15:45] schestowitz[TR] how to cancel people: [15:45] schestowitz[TR] look for footage of their bare feet [15:45] highest_cubist_thrills i mean theres plenty of videos that combine feet and dicks [15:45] schestowitz[TR] or photos of their junk [15:45] schestowitz[TR] war crimes ok [15:45] schestowitz[TR] just keep the weiner inside [15:45] highest_cubist_thrills i agree that sending unsolicited dick pics is a bad idea [15:46] schestowitz[TR] "zip it or we zap you" [15:46] highest_cubist_thrills i think the person weiner (heh) sent them to was underage as well [15:46] highest_cubist_thrills but i might be thinking of another one. [15:46] schestowitz[TR] ballmer obviously got tyhose two dude uncomfortable... look at their hands [15:46] schestowitz[TR] before he sat back down... clapping like a baboon [15:46] highest_cubist_thrills yep. she was. [15:46] highest_cubist_thrills i looked it up. not fair to him if she wasnt. [15:47] schestowitz[TR] no, I think she wwas adult [15:47] schestowitz[TR] unless there were several [15:47] highest_cubist_thrills s/developers/basketball players/ [15:47] schestowitz[TR] but it was adultery too [15:47] highest_cubist_thrills no, I think she wwas adult <- Anthony Weiner jailed for 21 months for sexting underage girl [15:47] highest_cubist_thrills www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41391640 [15:48] schestowitz[TR] there was also an anti-snoweden anti-wikileakss troll from the nsa [15:48] schestowitz[TR] john schindler [15:48] schestowitz[TR] he got busted sending duick pics online [15:48] schestowitz[TR] and some let him carry on writing like nothing happened [15:48] schestowitz[TR] he was married too [15:48] schestowitz[TR] I'm not sure if the schooll where he lectured fire him [15:48] schestowitz[TR] or maybe he 'stepped down' [15:48] highest_cubist_thrills A Movement that once burst with energy, enthusiasm, and creativity has become bogged down in basic survival -- survival from each other. [15:48] highest_cubist_thrills 1976! [15:49] highest_cubist_thrills so familiar [15:49] highest_cubist_thrills i wonder if mjg will read it [15:49] TR News Andy Wingo writes about work-stealing and weak memory... https://wingolog.org/archives/2022/10/03/on-correct-and-efficient-work-stealing-for-weak-memory-models he should know... gnu.fools [15:49] highest_cubist_thrills i wonder if anyone at lieplanet will figure out what really makes lieplanet less "safe" [15:50] TR Bot on "correct and efficient work-stealing for weak memory models" -- wingolog [15:50] highest_cubist_thrills these are narcissistic tendencies, imo the odds of self-realisation (at least in significant numbers) is very small [15:50] highest_cubist_thrills phanes says impossible [15:50] highest_cubist_thrills im only slightly more optimistic than that. [15:50] schestowitz[TR] the term "safe" is not what thhe dictionary says [15:50] schestowitz[TR] think not "memroy-safe" [15:51] highest_cubist_thrills no theyre conflating safety with mob rule [15:51] schestowitz[TR] but safe with money in it [15:51] highest_cubist_thrills which is hilarious until it actually happens [15:51] schestowitz[TR] FS is not safe [15:51] schestowitz[TR] not much money in it [15:51] highest_cubist_thrills the kind of "safe" at lieplanet [15:51] schestowitz[TR] no need for safe [15:51] highest_cubist_thrills when the rolling stones hired hells angels as "security" [15:51] schestowitz[TR] SSchubb [15:51] highest_cubist_thrills then they were "safe" [15:51] highest_cubist_thrills when lieplanet uses psychological manipulation as assurance [15:52] highest_cubist_thrills and as a tactic [15:52] highest_cubist_thrills lieplanet has fuck all to do with freedom [15:52] highest_cubist_thrills its a fucking counterrevolution [15:52] highest_cubist_thrills its a corporate trojan horse [15:52] schestowitz[TR] http://techrights.org/2022/09/28/free-speech-dying/ [15:52] TR Bot Free Speech is Becoming as Scarce as Independent Journalism (Even at the FSF) | Techrights [15:52] highest_cubist_thrills i think the situation looks better for free speech than the movement [15:52] schestowitz[TR] safe means you are not invited [15:53] highest_cubist_thrills in 2015 it looked BLEAK [15:53] schestowitz[TR] and thus cannot confront certain claims [15:53] highest_cubist_thrills safe <- from the nasty hangnail-eating commie threat [15:53] schestowitz[TR] soem troll here tries to make out network also "safe" [15:53] schestowitz[TR] by banning p[eople [15:53] schestowitz[TR] int eh channel [15:53] schestowitz[TR] and also blacklisting authors [15:53] highest_cubist_thrills he only says that because he loves you [15:53] schestowitz[TR] because they still believe and say what he said 10 years ago [15:53] schestowitz[TR] or 20 [15:53] highest_cubist_thrills just like when you call him a troll [15:54] schestowitz[TR] or 10 years before FSF gave him an "award" [15:54] schestowitz[TR] for helping Micosoft [15:54] TR News Who Are You (I Really Wanna Know)? 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I have posted the latest Limine Installer scripts here" https://bkhome.org/news/202210/limine-installer-fixes.html [15:57] TR Bot Limine Installer fixes ● Oct 03 [16:01] *frog has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:02] *frog (~frog@gyqjhgtvpaygy.irc) has joined #techrights [16:03] *matteobin has quit (connection closed) [16:13] TR News Crystal Linux | Impressive New Arch Based Distro - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=v4wFxsFm8X0 | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/v4wFxsFm8X0 [16:13] TR Bot Crystal Linux | Impressive New Arch Based Distro - Invidious [16:14] TR News MacOS on Linux - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=dMLNP6FfhkI | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/dMLNP6FfhkI [16:14] TR Bot MacOS on Linux - Invidious [16:14] TR News MX Linux 21.2 Quick overview #linux #mxlinux - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=uoK7iMPPxWU | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/uoK7iMPPxWU [16:14] TR Bot MX Linux 21.2 Quick overview #linux #mxlinux - Invidious [16:15] TR News Security updates for Monday [LWN] https://lwn.net/Articles/910161/ Source: LWN | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lwn.net/Articles/910161/ [16:15] TR Bot updates for Monday [LWN.net] [16:17] TR News Paul Wise: FLOSS Activities September 2022 http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/log/2022/10/03/floss-activities/ [16:17] TR Bot FLOSS Activities September 2022 [16:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. 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Watch them helping Microsoft... basically protecting criminals by blaming "Open Source" https://www.fosslife.org/hackers-target-it-staff-fake-job-offers-and-open-source-software see http://techrights.org/2022/10/01/blame-shifting/ [16:23] TR Bot Hackers Use Fake Job Offers and Open Source Software to Target IT Staff [16:23] TR Bot Microsoft Doesnt Like Open Source; Its Badmouthing, Stereotyping, Attacking It (to Shift Blame) | Techrights [16:29] TR News Rakudo Weekly News: 2022.40 Learning to Core https://rakudoweekly.blog/2022/10/03/2022-40-learning-to-core/ [16:29] TR Bot 2022.40 Learning to Core Rakudo Weekly News [16:37] TR News Clown, SAP, and Microsoft are the focus of today's SUSE. Or GAFAM+Proprietary Software https://www.suse.com/c/learn-engage-solve-join-suse-at-google-cloud-next-22/ [16:37] TR Bot Engage. Solve. Join SUSE at Google Cloud Next '22 | SUSE Communities [16:37] TR News (NEW): Shows and Videos: Distros, WordPress, and Games http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Shows_and_Videos_Distros_WordPress_and_Games.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Shows_and_Videos_Distros_WordPress_and_Games.gmi [16:37] TR Bot Tux Machines Shows and Videos: Distros, WordPress, and Games [16:39] TR News ICBM looks for unpaid volunteers or slaves... so it can reduce operating expenses associated with testers (that's how ICBM views "community"... like plantation) https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/contribute-to-fedora-37-upgrade-test-day/ [16:39] TR Bot Contribute to Fedora 37 Upgrade Test Day Fedora Community Blog [16:40] TR News I remember the days SJVN acted like a journalist, before he defected to MARKETING [16:41] TR News Two clowns in one headline: this is today's Red Hat https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/embracing-multi-cloud-container-development-platforms-drive-cloud-native-innovation [16:41] TR Bot Embracing multicloud container development platforms to drive cloud-native innovation [16:52] TR News What's Going on in Embedded Linux? Watch the EEI Livestream on October 5 https://www.elektormagazine.com/news/what-s-going-on-in-embedded-linux-watch-the-eei-livestream-on-october-5 [16:53] TR Bot Embedded Linux Insights: Watch the EEI Livestream on October 5 | Elektor Magazine [16:54] TR News "Chrome OS Linux". No Chrome OS is USING Linux and loves Gulag, i.e. it loves pushing spyware to people. https://www.howtogeek.com/835854/heres-how-steam-works-on-chromebooks/ [16:54] TR Bot Heres How Steam Works on Chromebooks [16:55] TR News Gulag to GNU/Linux founder: thanks for the work, now please drop dead and leave all your software to us. [16:57] TR News Proprietary copycats of IRC are a lot worse because of gamification, scores, engagement, addiction etc. They're spyware that harms people's minds. Just use IRC 'proper'. 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Web 2010+: click, scroll, drool [17:03] TR News Akademy Talks Day 2 - Jonathan Esk-Riddells Diary https://jriddell.org/2022/10/03/akademy-talks-day-2/ Source: Jonathan Riddell | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//jriddell.org/2022/10/03/akademy-talks-day-2/ [17:03] TR Bot Akademy Talks Day 2 Jonathan Esk-Riddell's Diary [17:08] TR News "Based on the recently released Linux 6.0 kernel series, the GNU Linux-libre 6.0 kernel is here to clean up proprietary code." https://9to5linux.com/gnu-linux-libre-6-0-kernel-released-for-those-who-seek-100-freedom-for-their-pcs [17:08] TR Bot Linux-Libre 6.0 Kernel Released for Those Who Seek 100% Freedom for Their PCs - 9to5Linux [17:08] TR News (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/today_s_howtos.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/today_s_howtos.2.gmi [17:08] TR Bot Tux Machines today's howtos [17:12] TR News 1990s WWW: we send you description of a page. 2000s: we send you a page linked to other pages and light code to enhance appearance. 2010s: you need some big programs for easier navigation in site. 2020s: you cannot enter our site at all until you download and run our proprietary JS bundles. 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Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [17:38] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #techrights [17:39] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:39] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:40] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [17:45] TR News The State vs the climate gemini://degrowther.smol.pub/20221003_state_climate [17:49] *highest_cubist_thrills (~highest_cubist_thri@e56aqnyrpnfiu.irc) has joined #techrights [17:52] highest_cubist_thrills "theres a really irritating point that people on the left that goes 'well cancelling doesnt really end anyones career'" mjg likes to play this tune, or variations thereof [17:52] highest_cubist_thrills this is still from the wynn video [17:53] highest_cubist_thrills "i think people say this because theyre trying to mitigate any sense of guilt the might feel about how theyre treating people" [17:53] highest_cubist_thrills "because its a really stupid argument" (cw: suicide) [17:53] highest_cubist_thrills she said cw: im not really a cw; kind of person [17:54] highest_cubist_thrills im my own cw by now [17:54] highest_cubist_thrills cw: me [17:54] highest_cubist_thrills "theres a lot of things that dont end your life that are still terrible" [17:54] highest_cubist_thrills then she talks about august ames [17:56] TR News (NEW): TUXEDO OS 1 overview | Surf, mail, work or play? Go for it! http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/TUXEDO_OS_1_overview_Surf_mail_work_or_play_Go_for_it.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/TUXEDO_OS_1_overview_Surf_mail_work_or_play_Go_for_it.gmi [17:56] TR Bot Tux Machines TUXEDO OS 1 overview | Surf, mail, work or play? Go for it! [17:57] schestowitz[TR] funny how the same crowd that accuses sites of driving people to suicid... tries to drive peopel to suicide [17:57] schestowitz[TR] and those sites do not do is [17:58] schestowitz[TR] some people on those sites, like some people in the forum, say things.. [17:58] schestowitz[TR] anyway, double standard is an inherent feature of these brigades [17:58] schestowitz[TR] it's like women who joke about cutting off men's dicks [17:58] schestowitz[TR] as punishment for things [17:58] highest_cubist_thrills double standards and hypocrisy are corner stones of trashing culture [17:58] schestowitz[TR] and then you respond, [17:58] schestowitz[TR] "is it also funny to cut women's breasts as punishment?" [17:59] schestowitz[TR] but being able to recognise double standard takes a certain mindset [17:59] highest_cubist_thrills it's like women who joke about cutting off men's dick <- yeah, i didnt care for sharon osbourne ever again after seeing her light up with glee over the thought of a mans dick in a blender [17:59] highest_cubist_thrills oh, cw: mans dick in a blender [17:59] *liberty_box (~liberty@ngvjyiryrrbba.irc) has joined #techrights [17:59] *rianne (~rianne@ngvjyiryrrbba.irc) has joined #techrights [17:59] *rianne_ (~rianne@freenode-vjf.peq.k31cok.IP) has joined #techrights [17:59] highest_cubist_thrills but i didnt try to end her career or start a twitter campaign over it. i simply lost any interest in her as a person [17:59] starstreak attack surface btw [17:59] highest_cubist_thrills <3 ● Oct 03 [18:00] starstreak another day, no gnome 43 :( [18:01] starstreak arch *did* package gnome-console 43 [18:01] highest_cubist_thrills /me cancels gnome for hurting trans people [18:01] starstreak lol [18:01] highest_cubist_thrills :D [18:01] highest_cubist_thrills also systemd is racist [18:01] highest_cubist_thrills it just is [18:02] highest_cubist_thrills and anyone who cant understand that is a horrible person [18:02] highest_cubist_thrills *winkwink* [18:02] schestowitz[TR] jokes about sextual mutilation are, to m,e as offensive as jokes about decapitation [18:03] highest_cubist_thrills jokes about sextual mutilation are, to m,e as offensive as jokes about decapitation <- idk if i had to choose, id probably let the dick go [18:03] highest_cubist_thrills just because without the other one i couldnt really enjoy it anyway [18:03] highest_cubist_thrills but thats a very practical (nearly fucking autistic) take [18:04] highest_cubist_thrills ideally the third scenario of killing the fucker who tries to take either one off seems like a good third option [18:05] starstreak linucks btw [18:06] highest_cubist_thrills its not as bad as it seems, you dont have to cheer me up constantly [18:06] starstreak "Guh new slash Linucks" -RMS [18:06] highest_cubist_thrills but you do :) [18:07] schestowitz[TR] highest_cubist_thrills: some do both [18:07] schestowitz[TR] iirc, in south america [18:07] schestowitz[TR] then stuff one inside the other [18:07] schestowitz[TR] key word: mouth [18:07] highest_cubist_thrills iirc, in south america <- that probably had more to to do with the guns mcaffee had [18:07] schestowitz[TR] it sure scares the rest who are alive [18:08] highest_cubist_thrills but you never know, i mean, hes not really ian murdock is he [18:08] schestowitz[TR] drug cartels... that's one heck of a drug! [18:08] highest_cubist_thrills cartels are the opiate of the mass... nothing [18:09] schestowitz[TR] thrown under the bus [18:09] schestowitz[TR] and well, he's dead (john) [18:09] schestowitz[TR] if this is how billg speaks of a close friend [18:09] schestowitz[TR] imagine how he thinks and speaks of "enemies" [18:09] starstreak "He's dead, Jim" -McCoy [18:10] schestowitz[TR] http://techrights.org/2020/10/18/rabid-bill-gates/ [18:10] TR Bot Bill Gates Refers to His Business as Jihad and Accuses Java of Being a Religion With Rabid Supporters | Techrights [18:10] highest_cubist_thrills /me just wants to love natalie wynn forever even if she becomes hitler [18:10] starstreak every time i gave the ai "reptilian bill gates" it would just give me bill gates pictures so clearly he is [18:10] highest_cubist_thrills but if she becomes hitler i might cancel her just a little [18:11] schestowitz[TR] hitlist [18:11] schestowitz[TR] i think I'm in one [18:11] highest_cubist_thrills hitlerlist [18:11] highest_cubist_thrills i think I'm in one <- no, just a shitlist [18:11] starstreak "His kernel is called linucks" -RMS [18:11] schestowitz[TR] been a survivor though [18:11] highest_cubist_thrills you want to be on a hitlist, so you can do a series about it [18:11] schestowitz[TR] better shitlist than hitlist [18:11] schestowitz[TR] hit is worse than just shit [18:11] highest_cubist_thrills been a survivor though <- this i actually believe [18:12] schestowitz[TR] hitman brett hart [18:12] schestowitz[TR] canadian [18:12] schestowitz[TR] starstreak: own hart attack surfae [18:12] highest_cubist_thrills dont fuck with canadians. they will fuck you up and then say theyre sorry. [18:12] schestowitz[TR] i think both brothers are dead now [18:12] schestowitz[TR] steroids and fall [18:13] schestowitz[TR] highest_cubist_thrills: all canadian wrestlers I know die with cancer or anabolic steroids [18:13] schestowitz[TR] iirc, "british bulldog" was from BC [18:13] schestowitz[TR] so not even british [18:13] schestowitz[TR] just branding [18:13] starstreak british columbia [18:13] starstreak gtfo noob [18:13] schestowitz[TR] didn't even reach my age [18:16] TR News "CISA has issued Binding Operational Directive (BOD) 23-01: Improving Asset Visibility and Vulnerability Detection on Federal Networks, which seeks improve asset visibility and vulnerability enumeration across the federal enterprise." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/current-activity/2022/10/03/cisa-issues-binding-operational-directive-23-01-improving-asset [18:16] TR Bot CISA Issues Binding Operational Directive 23-01: Improving Asset Visibility and Vulnerability Detection on Federal Networks | CISA [18:16] TR News CentOS Hyperscale SIG Quarterly Report for 2022Q3 https://blog.centos.org/2022/10/centos-hyperscale-sig-quarterly-report-for-2022q3/ [18:16] TR Bot Hyperscale SIG Quarterly Report for 2022Q3 Blog.CentOS.org [18:18] TR News (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Security_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Security_Leftovers.1.gmi [18:18] TR Bot Tux Machines Security Leftovers [18:19] TR News (NEW): CentOS, Red Hat, and Fedora Family http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/CentOS_Red_Hat_and_Fedora_Family.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/CentOS_Red_Hat_and_Fedora_Family.gmi [18:19] TR Bot Tux Machines CentOS, Red Hat, and Fedora Family [18:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [18:30] TR News (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Programming_Leftovers.gmi [18:30] TR Bot Tux Machines Programming Leftovers [18:30] TR News (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/today_s_leftovers.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/today_s_leftovers.2.gmi [18:30] TR Bot Tux Machines today's leftovers [18:30] TR News Links 03/10/2022: OpenMandriva ROME Gold Candidate and IceWM 3.0.0 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/icewm-3-0-0/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/03/icewm-3-0-0/ [18:30] TR Bot Links 03/10/2022: OpenMandriva ROME Gold Candidate and IceWM 3.0.0 | Techrights [18:35] *immibis_ (~hexchat@f7vfs4tgmbv7c.irc) has joined #techrights [18:35] *immibis has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:37] *immibis_ has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [18:38] *immibis_ (~hexchat@2a02:3032:2:a853:e943:b548:324d:e7ef) has joined #techrights [18:43] schestowitz[TR] https://www.mancity.com/citytv/mens/tunnel-cam-manchester-united-63800390 [18:43] TR Bot City 6-3 Manchester United: Tunnel Cam [18:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 19.80 k/sec., IPFS upstream 105.81 average k/sec., average swarm size 138.03 ● Oct 03 [19:00] *highest_cubist_thrills has quit (connection closed) [19:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [19:43] *betsy (~igloo@d9tvs44uyg5y6.irc) has joined #techrights [19:44] *betsy has quit (connection closed) [19:51] *betsy (~igloo@d9tvs44uyg5y6.irc) has joined #techrights [19:52] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@uax6j9r5apawe.irc) has joined #techrights [19:54] *betsy has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:54] DaemonFC I should post a bug report I suppose on dangling references to 90s/2000s instant messengers that are dead. [19:54] DaemonFC But the GUI of SeaMonkey has gotten a lot less crowded with the removal of references to plug-ins, AIM, and such. [19:55] DaemonFC That just shows what the long term technical debt of shoving in references to proprietary software is. [19:55] DaemonFC 20 years later, you're still there and they aren't. [19:55] DaemonFC People are going to look at the ZDNet spam about Microsoft Teams in the same way in just 5 years or so. [19:56] DaemonFC Like, it's not even now what AIM was at its peak. [19:56] DaemonFC They have to invent ways to promote this shit because shooting emails back and forth and CC-ing people who need to be in the know about the memo is too fast and easy and can be done with anything. [19:57] DaemonFC The memo about the TPS report could just be sent to everyone in the office who needed it, and then they could reply and your email client would create a tree so everyone could read the replies and be up to speed with everyone else. [19:58] DaemonFC Now they call a two hour mandatory video meeting where nobody is getting any work done. Oh, and you need this Microsoft crap for some reason. [19:59] DaemonFC Then during the video meeting, someone is a cat and someone else forgets to turn on their privacy shade and gets caught masturbating because they have to be at the meeting but didn't actually care about the TPS reports. [19:59] DaemonFC This Zoom Court shit going on is fucking stupid. [19:59] DaemonFC People transmit gay porn into a courtroom and the lawyers show up with the cat face filter. ● Oct 03 [20:00] DaemonFC And the judge is over there admonishing people for turning his courtroom into a three ringed circus, but it's his own fault for telling them to use Zoom in the first place. [20:01] DaemonFC But Zoom is kind of funny too, in its own way. [20:01] DaemonFC It shows you just how trashy these people getting in trouble with the law tend to be. [20:02] DaemonFC Right? I'm there wearing a suit even though I'm on Zoom going "Yes sir. No sir." and then you have people in their bed that are called "iPhone" and they have nappy hair and they're smoking weed in front of the judge and are high as fuck and they're saying the judge is full of shit right at him. [20:03] DaemonFC One woman in Zoom Traffic Court was admonished by the judge for appearing in court on her phone while she was driving. [20:03] DaemonFC The judge said she needed to pull over because she was committing a traffic offense while she was in traffic court. [20:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [20:24] bagira https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/libreplanet-discuss/2019-07/msg00009.html [20:25] TR Bot [libreplanet-discuss] Nepotism, Conflict of interest: Debian GSoC/Outrea [20:39] DaemonFC Most stall outs on the browser process in single-process mode (which is what SeaMonkey uses) are in poorly-written and bloated JavaScripts. [20:40] frog there is only one solution to the technical and quality problems GNU/FSF etc. have: removal of GNU-toolchain (gcc,binutils) and removal of GNU-buildsystem (autotools,automake) [20:40] *horseface has quit (Quit: PING TIMEOUT!!! >9000 FOR SURE!!!) [20:40] DaemonFC So basically the problem Mozilla is solving with e10s is that those really bloated and poorly-written JavaScripts get their own CPU core to bog down, which will hopefully stop them from freezing your entire browser. [20:40] DaemonFC Which is a really shitty way to try to solve the problem. [20:41] DaemonFC "MoonChild" (M.C. Straver) was right in saying e10s is a really shitty way to solve Web performance problems. [20:41] DaemonFC It would be nice if they would stop blocking NoScript and making the user fight to turn it back on and insulting people who want to use it. [20:44] *schestowitz-TR has quit (Connection closed) [20:45] *schestowitz-TR2 (~acer-box@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #techrights [20:56] AdmFubar there's fungus among us https://www.statnews.com/2022/09/30/fungi-found-in-cancer-tumors-but-why-is-a-mystery/ [20:56] TR Bot Fungi find their way into cancer tumors, but why is a mystery - STAT [20:57] AdmFubar probably why I don't like mushrooms [20:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 37.25 k/sec., IPFS upstream 195.08 average k/sec., average swarm size 139.06 ● Oct 03 [21:03] starstreak AdmFubar, i liked LSD a lot more than mushrooms [21:03] starstreak mushrooms are too intense [21:06] starstreak i wish the government would legalize LSD [21:06] AdmFubar I kinda noticed that about you.. ;) [21:06] starstreak AdmFubar, noticed what? [21:06] AdmFubar yes that exactly [21:07] starstreak i use gnome btw [21:09] AdmFubar hhhmmm ok [21:09] starstreak what is it about me that makes you think LSD or mushrooms? [21:11] AdmFubar absolutely nothing [21:11] AdmFubar just something I said off the top of my head [21:11] MinceR limited slip differential? [21:12] AdmFubar got you thinking there was something [21:12] AdmFubar there is a little blue pill for that mincer [21:12] MinceR "Made you flinch!" [21:13] MinceR AdmFubar: Viagra? i don't need it. [21:13] starstreak vajayjay [21:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [21:27] AdmFubar https://www.planetary.org/the-downlink/a-smashing-success [21:27] TR Bot A smashing success | The Planetary Society [21:37] AdmFubar https://linuxiac.com/tuxedo-os-1/ [21:37] TR Bot TUXEDO Computers Released TUXEDO OS 1 to the Mass Public [21:43] AdmFubar https://hackaday.com/2022/10/03/ancient-nuclear-plant-computer-finds-new-home-in-bletchley-museum/ [21:43] TR Bot Nuclear Plant Computer Finds New Home In Bletchley Museum | Hackaday [21:54] AdmFubar you've been spotted! https://www.ghacks.net/2022/09/29/spotify-is-getting-installed-on-some-windows-pcs-automatically/ [21:54] TR Bot Spotify is getting installed on some Windows PCs automatically - gHacks Tech News [21:57] AdmFubar https://www.databreaches.net/why-wont-they-tell-you-that-your-data-were-leaked-why-doesnt-the-government-make-them-tell-you/ [21:57] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.databreaches.net/why-wont-they-tell-you-that-your-data-were-leaked-why-doesnt-the-government-make-them-tell-you/ ) ● Oct 03 [22:06] DaemonFC https://www.neowin.net/news/google-might-force-users-to-pay-for-premium-to-watch-videos-in-4k-on-youtube [22:06] TR Bot Google might force users to pay for Premium to watch videos in 4K on YouTube - Neowin [22:06] DaemonFC "Pay for PREMIUM so you can watch 4K on a 5" iPhone screen!" -GULAG [22:06] DaemonFC IIRC, the iPhone "retina" displays aren't even 1080p, so why would you pay to watch something the phone's screen doesn't even support? [22:07] MinceR hypePhone users don't mind [22:07] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [22:13] DaemonFC https://scontent-ord5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/310061203_5429935183710653_2129939102217093000_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=EHsi75rtY8oAX9rP441&_nc_ht=scontent-ord5-1.xx&oh=00_AT_KhZk29ngpXwvyDWf8uqqtNT3dclu42vsWeMzBsCNzkw&oe=633FD530 [22:13] DaemonFC Meanwhile, in Flordia. [22:13] DaemonFC *Florida [22:14] MinceR :D [22:16] AdmFubar monster low riders [22:17] AdmFubar https://www.theregister.com/2022/10/03/tiktok_tracking_pixels/ [22:17] TR Bot TikTok caught using tracking pixels just like Meta, Google The Register [22:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [22:24] XRevan86 https://nitter.it/JuliaDavisNews/status/1577044548236124160 "Musk, whose text messages revealed him to be an occasional reader of RT" [22:24] TR Bot Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Self-explanatory."|nitter.it [22:24] XRevan86 Ye were supposed to be the chosen one! [22:25] XRevan86 https://neuters.de/world/musk-zelenskiy-twitter-showdown-over-billionaires-peace-plan-2022-10-03/ context [22:25] TR Bot Musk and Zelenskiy in Twitter showdown over billionaire's peace plan [22:26] MinceR lol [22:27] MinceR i think it was obvious for a while that he's not the chosen one, but a fraud [22:27] XRevan86 Starlink's are an incredibly powerful tool for Ukraine, so this is very awkward. [22:28] XRevan86 MinceR: I mean in this narrow context %). [22:29] MinceR musk forced the founders of tesla out in 2008 and tried to take credit for everything they've done [22:29] XRevan86 Whose idea was the Tesla subway disaster? [22:30] MinceR (which isn't even all that worth taking credit for) [22:30] MinceR \_()_/ [22:30] MinceR was it even branded tesla? [22:30] MinceR i can't keep musk's transportation pipe dreams (literally) straight [22:31] XRevan86 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boring_Company "The Boring Company was formed as a subsidiary of SpaceX, before separating in 2018" [22:31] TR Bot The Boring Company - Wikipedia [22:35] TR News iTWire - After 11 days, Optus finally says 2.1m customers had ID data stolen https://itwire.com/security/after-12-days,-optus-finally-says-2-1m-customers-had-data-stolen.html Source: IT Wire | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//itwire.com/security/after-12-days,-optus-finally-says-2-1m-customers-had-data-stolen.html [22:35] TR Bot - After 11 days, Optus finally says 2.1m customers had ID data stolen [22:35] TR News Clickbait on Gemini gemini://altesq.net/~evenfire/posts/clickbait-on-gemini.gmi [22:36] TR News State vs Climate gemini://idiomdrottning.org/state-vs-climate [22:37] TR News "Unfortunately, we are still having what I call the "cloud apocalypse" here in Fairbanks, Alaska. This last week was a seemingly unbroken chain of overcast days and nights very thick clouds with some light rain here and there." gemini://gem.librehacker.com/gemlog/starlog/20221003-0.gmi [22:39] TR News (NEW): LINMOB.net - Weekly GNU-like Mobile Linux Update (39/2022): Plasma Mobile Gear 22.09, Akademy and an Update on Nemo Mobile http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/LINMOB_net_Weekly_GNU_like_Mobile_Linux_Update_39_2022_Plasma_M.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/LINMOB_net_Weekly_GNU_like_Mobile_Linux_Update_39_2022_Plasma_M.gmi [22:39] TR Bot Tux Machines LINMOB.net - Weekly GNU-like Mobile Linux Update (39/2022): Plasma Mobile Gear 22.09, Akademy and an Update on Nemo Mobile [22:40] TR News How to Reduce Video Size (Compress) With FFmpeg - ByteXD https://bytexd.com/how-to-reduce-video-size-compress-with-ffmpeg/ Source: ByteXD | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//bytexd.com/how-to-reduce-video-size-compress-with-ffmpeg/ [22:40] TR Bot to Reduce Video Size (Compress) With FFmpeg - ByteXD [22:43] TR News Paid-for puff piece about foreign lobby group of monopolies https://thenewstack.io/open-source-summit-introducing-linux-foundation-europe/ see http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/european-school-the-hague/ [22:43] TR Bot At Open Source Summit: Introducing Linux Foundation Europe - The New Stack [22:43] TR Bot European School The Hague (ESH) Faces a Crisis and Families of EPO Workers Are Harmed Profoundly | Techrights [22:45] DaemonFC MinceRmusk forced the founders of tesla out in 2008 and tried to take credit for everything they've done [22:45] DaemonFC He did the same to Paypal but wasn't as successful. [22:45] DaemonFC Musk is an elitist far-right crank who the liberals subsidize and buy bad cars off of. [22:45] MinceR + [22:46] DaemonFC He says the danger to the planet is not enough kids and there's an underpopulation problem. [22:46] DaemonFC He doesn't hit a limit to what his finances can afford and even if you split his wealth between 10 nasty heirs when he dies, they all become rich from doing absolutely nothing. [22:46] DaemonFC And so do all of their kids. [22:47] DaemonFC I don't think all of his kids are as bad as he is. [22:47] MinceR and will probably use those resources to make life worse for everyone else [22:47] DaemonFC At least one of them said she doesn't care to inherit anything from him, hates him, and disowned him as her father in court. [22:48] TR News Crystal Crowder = webspammer. "This is a sponsored article and was made possible by Tronsmart..." So you do a FAKE 'review' for the company https://www.maketecheasier.com/review/tronsmart-bang-mini-portable-party-speaker/ [22:48] TR Bot Tronsmart Bang Mini Portable Party Speaker Review - Make Tech Easier [22:49] TR News (NEW): Does Rust belong in the Linux kernel? http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Does_Rust_belong_in_the_Linux_kernel.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Does_Rust_belong_in_the_Linux_kernel.gmi [22:49] TR Bot Tux Machines Does Rust belong in the Linux kernel? [22:51] TR News [GIT PULL] kernel hardening updates for v6.1-rc1 - Kees Cook https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/202210011003.B89BF8B@keescook/ [22:51] TR Bot [GIT PULL] kernel hardening updates for v6.1-rc1 - Kees Cook [22:51] DaemonFC Courts can't change a biological fact. They can only create a legal fiction. It won't change her genetics anymore than a court order could turn me into a woman. [22:51] DaemonFC But it is a public repudiation of her dad, and a fairly forceful one too. [22:51] *immibis_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:52] *frog has quit (connection closed) [22:52] *immibis (~hexchat@tyb437z2bkqki.irc) has joined #techrights [22:52] DaemonFC Most normal people are inclined to protect children, even children that are not their own. It's one of those "subconscious programming" things that serves an evolutionary purpose. [22:53] DaemonFC I recall reading a study, though, that showed that men responded more strongly to pictures of children that had similar facial features as theirs than ones that didn't look anything at all like them, whereas women do not. [22:54] DaemonFC So it might explain why men are less willing to adopt unless they just lose an argument with their spouse, treat their step-children badly, etc. [22:54] DaemonFC They may not even realize that they do it, or why. [22:54] TR News "Loads of discoveries including quickly fixing command line flubs, a must-have tool for USB booting, managing snapshots, and a router distro. Plus the problem with open-sourcing AI, Graham makes a dreadful racket, and more." https://latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-197/ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-197/ [22:54] TR Bot Late Night Linux Episode 197 Late Night Linux [22:54] *immibis_ has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [22:54] *immibis_ (~hexchat@2a02:3032:8:ec9d:c5d5:94b4:b9de:ae22) has joined #techrights [22:54] TR News OPEN SOURCE your Android Phone: open source Android ROMS and apps - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Llrrzh6hxcA | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/Llrrzh6hxcA [22:54] TR Bot OPEN SOURCE your Android Phone: open source Android ROMS and apps - Invidious [22:55] *frog (~frog@eq3snar22puje.irc) has joined #techrights [22:55] TR News The Best Method for Building a Custom Firefox Install on Linux - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=H7VcIIrdoXg | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/H7VcIIrdoXg [22:55] TR Bot The Best Method for Building a Custom Firefox Install on Linux - Invidious [22:56] TR News Weirdest Arch User Repository Package Ever Created! - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=bwTEAj5eF6o | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/bwTEAj5eF6o [22:56] TR Bot Weirdest Arch User Repository Package Ever Created! - Invidious [22:57] TR News New release of Git and Phoronix has spun that as a Microsoft thing. Shame on Microbell. [22:59] TR News TechRepublic = Microsoft DIPLOMA MILL SPAM https://www.techrepublic.com/article/linux-courses-linkedin-premium/ see also http://techrights.org/2022/09/28/spam-instead-of-news/ [22:59] TR Bot Learning: The best Linux courses and tutorials | TechRepublic [22:59] TR Bot Linux Today Back to Posting Spam Instead of News | Techrights [22:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 13.33 k/sec., IPFS upstream 158.56 average k/sec., average swarm size 131.58 ● Oct 03 [23:06] TR News When Git has a release there is a formal announcement in a vendor-neutral mailing list. LWN and Phoronix link to an ATTACK on Git!! Yes, Microsoft proprietary GitHub as if Microsoft owns Git itself. This is tactless and harmful. [23:07] TR News The impact of Free software on cybersecurity | Infosec Resources https://resources.infosecinstitute.com/topic/open-source-cybersecurity/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//resources.infosecinstitute.com/topic/open-source-cybersecurity/ [23:07] TR Bot The impact of open source on cybersecurity | Infosec Resources [23:08] TR News (NEW): Videos and Shows: Arch User Repository Package, Firefox, Android, and Late Night Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Videos_and_Shows_Arch_User_Repository_Package_Firefox_Android_a.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Videos_and_Shows_Arch_User_Repository_Package_Firefox_Android_a.gmi [23:08] TR Bot Tux Machines Videos and Shows: Arch User Repository Package, Firefox, Android, and Late Night Linux [23:18] TR News September GNU Spotlight with Amin Bandali: Seventeen new GNU releases! https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/september-gnu-spotlight-with-amin-bandali-seventeen-new-gnu-releases [23:18] TR Bot September GNU Spotlight with Amin Bandali: Seventeen new GNU releases! Free Software Foundation Working together for free software [23:18] TR News (NEW): Git v2.38.0 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Git_v2_38_0.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Git_v2_38_0.gmi [23:18] TR Bot Tux Machines Git v2.38.0 [23:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [23:20] TR News (NEW): Everything You Need to Get Started With Arduino Projects http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Everything_You_Need_to_Get_Started_With_Arduino_Projects.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Everything_You_Need_to_Get_Started_With_Arduino_Projects.gmi [23:20] TR Bot Tux Machines Everything You Need to Get Started With Arduino Projects [23:20] TR News (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/today_s_howtos.3.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/today_s_howtos.3.gmi [23:20] TR Bot Tux Machines today's howtos [23:23] TR News This article hardly explains how this gets on systems in the first place and instead rambles about Microsoft, not Linux, issues https://thehackernews.com/2022/10/researchers-link-cheerscrypt-linux.html [23:23] TR Bot Researchers Link Cheerscrypt Linux-Based Ransomware to Chinese Hackers [23:27] TR News Liam Proven, David Delony, and Arindam Giri on Debian changes http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/02/Debian_Results_for_non_free_firmware.shtml [23:27] TR Bot Tux Machines Debian: Results for non-free firmware (UPDATED) [23:28] TR News "After waiting for almost two, two, and a half months, I finally got mums death certificate last week. A part of me was saddened as it felt like I was nailing her or putting nails to the coffin or whatever it is, (even though Im an Agarwal) I just felt sad and awful." https://flossexperiences.wordpress.com/2022/10/04/death-certificate-legal-heir-succession-certificate-and-indian-beaureacracy/ [23:28] TR Bot Death Certificate, Legal Heir, Succession Certificate, and Indian Beaureacracy. Experiences in the community [23:30] TR News Mass surveillance. As if running and controlling your own PC is 'passe' https://www.storagereview.com/news/amazons-fully-managed-infrastructure-only-vdi-solution-announced [23:30] TR Bot Fully-Managed, Infrastructure-Only VDI Solution Announced - StorageReview.com [23:31] TR News Waste of energy, ruining the planet https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/10/03/the-steady-hand-guiding-amds-prudently-expanding-datacenter-business/ [23:31] TR Bot The Steady Hand Guiding AMDs Prudently Expanding Datacenter Business [23:32] TR News vrurg: Did you know that https://vrurg.github.io/2022/10/03/coerce-with-long-name [23:32] TR Bot Did you know that - LFlat, The Home of Vrurg [23:32] starstreak arch linux's gnome unstable source code is available on gitlab: https://gitlab.com/fabiscafe/gnome-unstable [23:32] TR Bot Bornschein / gnome-unstable GitLab [23:32] TR News The Gallery: Can FMV Games Make a Come-back? https://boilingsteam.com/the-gallery-fmv-game-review/ [23:32] TR Bot The Gallery: Can FMV Games Make a Come-back? - Boiling Steam [23:33] TR News (NEW): Security and Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Security_and_Fear_Uncertainty_Doubt.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Security_and_Fear_Uncertainty_Doubt.gmi [23:33] TR Bot Tux Machines Security and Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt [23:33] TR News (NEW): The 6 Most Effective Linux Parental Control Software in 2022 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/The_6_Most_Effective_Linux_Parental_Control_Software_in_2022.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/The_6_Most_Effective_Linux_Parental_Control_Software_in_2022.gmi [23:33] TR Bot Tux Machines The 6 Most Effective Linux Parental Control Software in 2022 [23:33] TR News [GIT PULL] Power management updates for v6.1-rc1 - Rafael J. Wysocki https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pm/CAJZ5v0ip_C6y1KopyN2pEs7dyqPw6NzKG1WtJSeqyKJeMOYwfA@mail.gmail.com/ [23:33] TR Bot [GIT PULL] Power management updates for v6.1-rc1 - Rafael J. Wysocki [23:34] TR News Improved version of our popular "Embedded Linux system development" course - Bootlin's blog https://bootlin.com/blog/improved-version-embedded-linux-course/ Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//bootlin.com/blog/improved-version-embedded-linux-course/ [23:34] TR Bot version of our popular "Embedded Linux system development" course - Bootlin's blog [23:35] TR News "For twenty-five years, SUSE has collaborated and innovated with Hewlett Packard Enterprises (HPE), to create a seamless hardware and software experience." https://www.suse.com/c/its-here-suse-rancher-sle-micro-and-k3s-now-available-with-hpe-pointnext-support/ [23:35] TR Bot here! SUSE Rancher, SLE Micro and K3s now available with HPE Pointnext support | SUSE Communities [23:35] TR News "The accepted sessions for the upcoming Netdev 0x16 have been posted. The conference will be held virtually and in-person in Lisbon, Portugal October 24-28. In addition, early-bird registration rates have been extended to October 4." https://lwn.net/Articles/910210/ [23:35] TR Bot 0x16 accepted sessions announced [LWN.net] [23:37] TR News "Oh yeah, you probably want to know if the game works as is on Steam? Actually, no. It wont work if you use the regular Proton or even Experimental, at least at the time of writing: the videos wont display, which makes the game unplayable. But GE-Proton (any recent version) will do the trick to make it work the way its supposed to." https://boilingsteam.com/the-gallery-fmv-game-review/ [23:39] *techuser has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:40] TR News USA: militarising even the education system https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm_7BP0RxYs [23:40] TR Bot https://inv.riverside.rocks/watch?v=rm_7BP0RxYs [23:40] TR Bot inv.riverside.rocks | Take Advantage of your Military Education Benefits! @CyberInsight - Invidious [23:41] TR News Functionality ruined by excessive "design" in this case https://thishosting.rocks/how-to-create-an-impressive-website-in-terms-of-design-and-functionality/ [23:41] TR Bot How To Create an Impressive Website in Terms of Design and Functionality [23:42] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [23:42] TR News XDA does a lousy job, helping Microsoft ATTACK GNU/Linux. WSL is an ATTACK on it. 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Great example of webspam in so-called 'news' sites https://www.maketecheasier.com/deal/insignia-65-f30-series-smart-fire-tv/ Amazon is giving incentives to turn the Web into this sort of spamfarm [23:43] TR Bot Save $300 on an Insignia 75" F30 Series Smart Fire TV - Make Tech Easier [23:44] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [23:50] *techuser (~techuser@77ji9rtgsrhts.irc) has joined #techrights [23:52] *frog has quit (connection closed) [23:52] *frog (~frog@4iewbg8aeaxdk.irc) has joined #techrights [23:52] TR News Energy wasted, back doors too https://venturebeat.com/programming-development/intel-cto-wants-developers-to-build-once-run-on-any-gpu/ [23:52] TR Bot CTO wants developers to build once, run on any GPU | VentureBeat [23:59] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:59] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving)