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● Mar 04
[00:02]	XRevan86	CP1251
[00:04]	XRevan86	https://newsru.co.il/world/04mar2022/feu_0014.html TechrightsBot-tr, take that
[00:04]	TR Bot	:: - 
[00:05]	XRevan86	TechrightsBot-tr approves.
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[00:16]	schestowitz-TR2	lol
[00:16]	schestowitz-TR2	XRevan86: some news on ukraine coming
[00:17]	MinceR	looks like the wind is blowing toward russia
[00:17]	MinceR	(javascript) https://www.windy.com/?47.294,35.508,5
[00:17]	TR Bot	Wind map & weather forecast
[00:17]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: windy.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.windy.com/?47.294,35.508,5
[00:17]	schestowitz-TR2	MinceR: good
[00:17]	MinceR	indeed
[00:17]	schestowitz-TR2	because putin is taking the piss
[00:17]	MinceR	https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/top-wrap-1-europes-largest-nuclear-power-plant-fire-after-russian-attack-mayor-2022-03-04/
[00:17]	TR Bot	WRAP 1 Europe's largest nuclear power plant on fire after Russian attack- mayor | Reuters
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[00:18]	TR News	Russian #terrorism by Vladold Putler https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/top-wrap-1-europes-largest-nuclear-power-plant-fire-after-russian-attack-mayor-2022-03-04/
[00:18]	schestowitz-TR2	oops, typo
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[00:18]	TR News	Are you sure?
[00:18]	schestowitz-TR2	yes
[00:18]	schestowitz-TR2	go for it
[00:18]	schestowitz-TR2	buggy shit
[00:18]	TR News	Russian #terrorism by Vladolf Putler https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/top-wrap-1-europes-largest-nuclear-power-plant-fire-after-russian-attack-mayor-2022-03-04/
[00:19]	TR News	#joindiaspora shuts down about 19 hours from now, along with its longstanding Linux/Tux Machines account. To follow what we post bypass these 'middlemen', use RSS feeds: http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/feed
[00:19]	schestowitz-TR2	MinceR: I will do a blog about this
[00:20]	schestowitz	typos check would be appreciated, XRevan86, MinceR http://techrights.org/2022/03/03/from-ukraine-with-love/
[00:20]	TR Bot	 Message to LibrePlanet (From Ukraine) Censored But Not Ignored | Techrights
[00:21]	psydroid9	XRevan86, not great news at all, I know someone originally from Zaporizhia who will be very worried about relatives living there
[00:21]	XRevan86	> developers has
[00:21]	XRevan86	"meant" <- Past tense? Not anymore I guess?
[00:22]	DaemonFC	"I haven't been experiencing odd glitches with my Pixel 6.
[00:22]	DaemonFC	With the Samsung Galaxy S20 FE 5G (mouth full) I had:
[00:22]	DaemonFC	The modem was a complete piece of crap that hardly ever worked, especially with 5G enabled.
[00:22]	DaemonFC	OK Google stopped working and I could never figure out why.
[00:22]	DaemonFC	Microsoft's shovelware all over the place due to patent threats. No uninstaller.
[00:22]	DaemonFC	Samsung duplicated everything Google already has, poorly, used dark patterns to get you to accidentally open it, and then outsourced it to Micros**t.
[00:22]	DaemonFC	A "security update" from Samsung introduced Facebook system services that help them spy on you, even though I use Frost from F-Droid to access Facebook. I disabled that.
[00:22]	DaemonFC	The document scanner quit working in Samsung's camera app and I don't know why.
[00:22]	DaemonFC	The USB type C port failed while the phone was under warranty and Samsung's partner ubreakifix refused to fix it even though I only used their cable with it and only plugged it in a total of about ten times before the port failed.
[00:22]	DaemonFC	When I used Grindr before I was married, some slob in Chicago messaged me "u breed hole?". Not related to Samsung, but it stuck in my head and I started referring to ubreakifix as ubreedhole. Because it sets the expectation of what they'll do to you if you make a warranty claim on a Samsung device."
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[00:22]	DaemonFC	Samsung = We barely test the shit, release it, and then make it worse every month and then the only way we have any customers is fake rebates off of fake prices.
[00:22]	MinceR	> but who remove/block the message from public viewing?
[00:22]	MinceR	should be removed/blocked or something
[00:22]	XRevan86	MinceR: Beat me to it, it was already in my clipboard.
[00:23]	MinceR	> certain Free software developers
[00:23]	MinceR	is the capitalization intended this way?
[00:23]	psydroid9	is that why Samsung devices become so much cheaper a few months after release?
[00:23]	schestowitz-TR2	correcting
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[00:24]	MinceR	i didn't find anything else
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[00:25]	MinceR	lol @ breed hole
[00:27]	TR News	Message to #LibrePlanet (From #Ukraine ) Censored But Not Ignored Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/03/from-ukraine-with-love/ #Techrights #GNU #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/03/from-ukraine-with-love/
[00:27]	TR Bot	 Message to LibrePlanet (From Ukraine) Censored But Not Ignored | Techrights
[00:27]	DaemonFC	https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/03/03/disney-considering-less-expensive-ad-supported-tier-to-attract-subscribers
[00:27]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: appleinsider.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/03/03/disney-considering-less-expensive-ad-supported-tier-to-attract-subscribers
[00:27]	TR Bot	considering less expensive ad-supported tier to attract subscribers | AppleInsider
[00:27]	DaemonFC	1. Cancel actors for making personal opinion statements on Twitter.
[00:27]	DaemonFC	2. Customers cancel Disney.
[00:27]	DaemonFC	3. "You know what we need? Ads."
[00:29]	DaemonFC	<MinceR> lol @ breed hole
[00:29]	DaemonFC	Window pops up....
[00:29]	DaemonFC	"u breed hole?"
[00:29]	psydroid9	we are all living in , 
[00:29]	MinceR	:>
[00:29]	DaemonFC	I couldn't just block the guy you know, MinceR 
[00:29]	XRevan86	psydroid9: 
[00:29]	DaemonFC	I said, "I most certainly not breed hole!" and then I blocked him.
[00:29]	XRevan86	
[00:30]	MinceR	:>
[00:30]	DaemonFC	MinceR, The sum of 12 years of public education programs. u breed hole
[00:31]	XRevan86	Wanted to make a reference to Ein Reich but it looked too legit.
[00:31]	MinceR	:>
[00:31]	DaemonFC	I wonder if Russia is even THIS fucked up.
[00:31]	MinceR	they're pretty seriously fucked up, as you can see
[00:31]	DaemonFC	Like, whenever something like that happens in America, I say "I'm not surprised, although I still am disappointed.".
[00:32]	DaemonFC	Maybe Russians who drink do it for similar reasons.
[00:32]	XRevan86	When war began, I was surprised.
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[00:32]	DaemonFC	I haven't heard of anything like the New York City subway incidents happening in Moscow.
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[00:33]	DaemonFC	Of course, if there are people shoving shit in people's faces, cracking them over the skull with a hammer, or pushing them in front of trains, I doubt the state-ran "news" would point it out every single time.
[00:33]	XRevan86	Let's not talk of the St. Petersburg metro incidents.
[00:33]	DaemonFC	You have to maintain the appearances.
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[00:35]	DaemonFC	MinceR, Apple Insider ran a story about NSO group. So I commented:
[00:35]	DaemonFC	"2020 Apple: It's impossible to put malware on an iPhone.
[00:35]	DaemonFC	NSO Group: Hold my beer!
[00:35]	DaemonFC	2021: Apple sues NSO Group complaining in their sworn statement about persistent iPhone malware."
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[00:36]	psydroid9	are people still buying iPhones?
[00:36]	psydroid9	iMegaPhones
[00:36]	DaemonFC	"Microsoft uses the courts to go after the open sewer of malware on Windows and obviously that worked."
[00:37]	psydroid9	broadcasting all of your private information to anyone who wants to listen
[00:37]	TR News	Another #Chrenobyl But This Time Intentional? http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/03/04/another-chrenobyl-but-this-time-intentional/ #ukraine #russia #nukes #stateterrorism
[00:37]	TR Bot	Blog Archive Another Chrenobyl But This Time Intentional?
[00:37]	schestowitz-TR2	MinceR: see cartoon/meme
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[00:38]	schestowitz-TR2	DaemonFC: also Apple: yes, we spy for NSA
[00:38]	schestowitz-TR2	NSA good
[00:38]	schestowitz-TR2	NSO bad
[00:38]	DaemonFC	https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/03/03/apple-dropping-mask-mandates-for-corporate-retail-employees
[00:38]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: appleinsider.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/03/03/apple-dropping-mask-mandates-for-corporate-retail-employees
[00:38]	TR Bot	dropping mask mandates for corporate & retail employees | AppleInsider
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[00:38]	DaemonFC	"Welcome to Apple, would you like the plague with your iPhone? No extra charge. It's our way of saying thanks. Nobody will call on you!"
[00:38]	schestowitz-TR2	later they will say they lost some billions
[00:38]	schestowitz-TR2	and wonder why
[00:39]	schestowitz-TR2	or maybe the churchgoers (apple store shoppers) think dead steve jobs spiritgs will proptect them
[00:39]	DaemonFC	https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/03/03/more-tech-giants-will-follow-apple-and-pull-out-of-russia-analyst-says
[00:39]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: appleinsider.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/03/03/more-tech-giants-will-follow-apple-and-pull-out-of-russia-analyst-says
[00:39]	TR Bot	tech giants will follow Apple and pull out of Russia, analyst says | AppleInsider
[00:39]	DaemonFC	"Yeah, sanctions and a Ruble in freefall. How does that work? Must have been really hard for Tim Cook to find his spine in this climate."
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[00:40]	schestowitz-TR2	they only pull out when it is convenient for THEM
[00:40]	schestowitz-TR2	PR, money, political ties
[00:40]	schestowitz-TR2	not because they believe in it
[00:40]	schestowitz-TR2	welcome to fascist tech 'companies;'
[00:40]	schestowitz-TR2	playing pay your taxes
[00:40]	schestowitz-TR2	they help subsidise those
[00:41]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/
[00:41]	TR Bot	 The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers Expense | Techrights
[00:41]	psydroid9	Russia and other countries should become more self-sustaining anyway
[00:42]	psydroid9	why import tech from other countries such as the US, if you already have all the skills domestically
[00:42]	TR News	56k page requests in past 3 days over gemini:// in #techrights gemini://gemini.techrights.org/stats/index.gmi
[00:43]	schestowitz-TR2	psydroid9: exactly
[00:43]	DaemonFC	"Even though the S20 FE 5G is apparently not on the "Let's throttle 10,000 apps" list, it was the biggest turd I've ever bought, but at least T-Mobile gave me a full discount subsidy for getting rid of it. I had been considering taking a loss on it for a $70 Amazon card and buying an unlocked phone in cash."
[00:43]	schestowitz-TR2	I often complain about it here
[00:43]	schestowitz-TR2	like adopting voip tech" from us
[00:43]	schestowitz-TR2	as if no british company can cobble together something
[00:43]	schestowitz-TR2	heck, afaik asterisk is made by a british
[00:43]	DaemonFC	It's amazing that Google lets Android OEMs push shit like this without any sort of quality control program.
[00:44]	DaemonFC	It should want to encourage Android marketshare by making the phones at least work, you'd think.
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[00:45]	psydroid9	Google doesn't want to alienate its actual customers
[00:46]	DaemonFC	Samsung seems to gain attention mainly by pricing the phones like they were an iPhone and then offering permanent fake discounts whenever you go into the store. JC Penney uses gimmicks like this. When they tried to stop, customer foot traffic fell measurably even though the "sale" prices became the "normal price". Never estimate how dumb people can be.
[00:46]	TR News	The State of Enterprise Open Source (Red Hat report) is made on a Mac with proprietary software; the so-called #LinuxFoundation can relate Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/03/state-of-proprietary-software/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/03/state-of-proprietary-software/
[00:46]	TR Bot	 Red Hats State of Enterprise Open Source Report Made on an Apple Mac Using Proprietary Software | Techrights
[00:46]	DaemonFC	If you tell people that a $400 phone is a $400 phone, you'll sell half as many as if you said it was an $899 phone with a $499 instant rebate, making it a $400 phone.
[00:47]	DaemonFC	So that's what Samsung does.
[00:47]	TR News	Free as in #freespeech ; but not for everyone... Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/03/from-ukraine-with-love/ #Techrights #GNU #FSF #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/03/from-ukraine-with-love/
[00:47]	TR Bot	 Message to LibrePlanet (From Ukraine) Censored But Not Ignored | Techrights
[00:47]	DaemonFC	Even though in fact both are the same, people process the two methods very differently.
[00:47]	DaemonFC	Instead of spending $400 on the phone, they were smart. They SAVED $499.
[00:50]	DaemonFC	MinceR, For several months, T-Mobile said you had to switch to a T-Mobile Magenta plan that would have cost us $130 before tax and taken away my AAA membership.
[00:50]	DaemonFC	Then when enough people didn't bite, they did the same offer, but you could keep your existing two Sprint lines for $80 and keep AAA.
[00:50]	TR News	#LinuxMint is Making a Major #Bluetooth Change http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162109#comment-32968
[00:50]	TR Bot	 The Linux Mint Blog: Monthly News - February 2022 | Tux Machines
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[00:50]	DaemonFC	To get the new phones I mean.
[00:51]	DaemonFC	So they were throwing out the stipulation of giving up your Sprint account to rope in anyone who would agree to that.
[00:51]	schestowitz	https://www.maketecheasier.com/troubleshoot-windows-detected-hard-disk-problem/
[00:51]	TR Bot	 How to Troubleshoot Windows Detected a Hard Disk Problem - Make Tech Easier
[00:51]	DaemonFC	Then they went after the people who held out with a better offer.
[00:51]	DaemonFC	The new offer says that everything on your Sprint account stays the same for at least two years.
[00:52]	DaemonFC	Then if they demand we move over to T-Mobile, I'll probably put some discount MVNO SIM cards in the phones since they have to unlock them at that point.
[00:52]	TR News	Challenging #racism https://rdnewsnow.com/2022/03/03/community-the-power-of-one-returns-march-19-with-focus-on-challenging-racism/
[00:52]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: rdnewsnow.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://rdnewsnow.com/2022/03/03/community-the-power-of-one-returns-march-19-with-focus-on-challenging-racism/
[00:52]	TR Bot	The Power of One returns March 19 with focus on challenging racism | rdnewsnow.com
[00:53]	TR News	Enterprise open-source is on the up and proprietary software on the way down https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/02/red_hat_open_source/ BUT: http://techrights.org/2022/03/03/state-of-proprietary-software/
[00:53]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/02/red_hat_open_source/
[00:53]	TR Bot	 Enterprise open-source grows as proprietary apps shrink The Register
[00:54]	DaemonFC	Google can lease time on T-Mobile's network for Google Fi and still charge less for it because of a few reasons, including no "free" phone subsidies.
[00:54]	DaemonFC	You have to buy something and put their SIM in it, but at the end of the two years, T-Mobile has to unlock these phones we just got.
[00:54]	DaemonFC	That probably gives me about 4 years before I have to worry about plan rate hikes _and_ getting new phones again.
[00:55]	DaemonFC	I try to do everything I can to keep a lid on bills going up every time you look around. It's not easy lately.
[00:55]	psydroid9	troubleshoot Windows hard disk problem?
[00:55]	DaemonFC	T-Mobile is running leaner than ever, but they raise prices anyway.
[00:55]	psydroid9	throw it out and buy a new one
[00:55]	psydroid9	a computer, that is
[00:56]	MinceR	04 013531 < DaemonFC> MinceR, Apple Insider ran a story about NSO group. So I commented:
[00:56]	MinceR	lol
[00:56]	DaemonFC	They absorbed Sprint for barely more than the outstanding cost of Sprint's debt, ruined a competitor, got all of their customers, and then shut down Sprint's towers and fired the "redundant" people causing 30,000 job losses in America.
[00:56]	MinceR	04 013610 < psydroid9> are people still buying iPhones?
[00:56]	MinceR	yes, they're fashion accessories
[00:56]	MinceR	also signs of belonging to the cult
[00:57]	DaemonFC	Meanwhile, the Trump administration looked the other way in exchange for Deutche Telekom booking $250,000 of empty rooms at his hotel.
[00:57]	MinceR	Deutsche Telekom loves all the dictators and wannabe dictators on this planet
[00:58]	schestowitz-TR2	it does
[00:58]	schestowitz-TR2	vodaphone too
[00:58]	schestowitz	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vodafone#Criticisms
[00:58]	TR Bot	 Vodafone - Wikipedia
[00:59]	MinceR	and telenor sold their business in hungary to the state
● Mar 04
[01:00]	MinceR	though not directly, iirc
[01:01]	TR News	Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162130 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[01:01]	TR Bot	 Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
[01:03]	MinceR	(javascript) https://www.theonion.com/congress-takes-field-trip-to-goldman-sachs-to-learn-how-1846994562
[01:03]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: theonion.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theonion.com/congress-takes-field-trip-to-goldman-sachs-to-learn-how-1846994562
[01:03]	TR Bot	 Congress Takes Field Trip To Goldman Sachs To Learn How Laws Get Made
[01:03]	psydroid9	Telenor has become Yettel in Serbia apparently 
[01:03]	MinceR	same here
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[01:03]	MinceR	though it isn't the real telenor
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[01:07]	DaemonFC	https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/03/04/how-t-mobile-took-over-sprint-destroyed-30000-american-jobs-and-raised-phone-bills-with-the-help-of-donald-trump/
[01:07]	TR Bot	 How T-Mobile took over Sprint, destroyed 30,000 American jobs, and raised phone bills with the help of Donald Trump. BaronHK's Rants
[01:07]	DaemonFC	I might tweak it.
[01:08]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, Added: "Turning Sprint around under Chapter 11 would have been better for American consumers, but Trump is an oligarch who was profiting off his office, like Vladimir Putin. Its also coming to light that Trump helped Russians launder money and hide real estate assets in shell companies. Ruh roh."
[01:12]	DaemonFC	MinceR, At least the Blacks are getting reparations from T-Mobile.
[01:12]	DaemonFC	Throw a brick get some iPads, and run.
[01:12]	MinceR	doesn't sound terribly valuable
[01:12]	DaemonFC	Of course there's a remote brick in every device with proprietary software.
[01:12]	DaemonFC	Throw a brick, get a brick.
[01:12]	MinceR	exactly
[01:12]	DaemonFC	But I capitalized Black, so there's hope.
[01:12]	MinceR	lol
[01:15]	DaemonFC	"We've temporarily frozen your renter's insurance policy due to activities in your neighborhood." 
[01:15]	DaemonFC	Stay classy, Lemonade. Class Action, even.
[01:16]	DaemonFC	I'd say we could dump a whole bunch of angry psychotic people who already know how to use guns and molotovs on Ukraine to deal with the Russians, but then they'd just have a problem that goes on longer than the Russians.
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[01:17]	DaemonFC	"I don't get it. We dropped the mostly peaceful protesters in Ukraine and the Russians don't want it anymore."
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[01:17]	DaemonFC	"Vladimir Putin was quoted, 'Fuck this shit. Byeeeee.'"
[01:17]	MinceR	you'd need to know which bunker putler is hiding in first
[01:18]	DaemonFC	MinceR, I saw a political cartoon about Trump during the 2020 riots.
[01:18]	DaemonFC	He was in a bunker about 1,000 feet under the white house tweeting "The governors are weak!".
[01:19]	DaemonFC	That was the best political cartoon I've seen in years.
[01:20]	MinceR	lol
[01:21]	DaemonFC	https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1fwskAAd
[01:21]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: thelayoff.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1fwskAAd
[01:21]	TR Bot	 Vax Terminations are really layoff - post regarding T-Mobile layoffs
[01:21]	DaemonFC	T-Mobile is outsourcing to India and has figured out if it fires the people it wants rid of for not having the COVID vaccine, it doesn't owe them unemployment.
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[01:41]	TR News	#Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162131 #Linux #TuxMachines
[01:41]	TR Bot	 Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
[01:46]	TR News	"Gulag Fi can lease time on T-Mobiles network for #Gulag Fi and still charge less for it because of a few reasons, including no free phone subsidies." https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/03/04/how-t-mobile-took-over-sprint-destroyed-30000-american-jobs-and-raised-phone-bills-with-the-help-of-donald-trump/
[01:46]	TR Bot	 How T-Mobile took over Sprint, destroyed 30,000 American jobs, and raised phone bills with the help of Donald Trump. BaronHK's Rants
[01:46]	CrystalMath	MinceR: "against the will of 10 million people..." https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/26/__2010__-en.png
[01:46]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: wikimedia.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/26/__2010__-en.png
[01:47]	TR News	"fired the redundant people causing 30,000 job losses in America. Theyve been doing it piecemeal to avoid any big headlines, so Id have to link to a bunch of stories if I cited it. They do layoffs like #Microsoft and #IBM ." https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/03/04/how-t-mobile-took-over-sprint-destroyed-30000-american-jobs-and-raised-phone-bills-with-the-help-of-donald-trump/
[01:47]	CrystalMath	MinceR: these elections were held under a pro-EU government
[01:47]	CrystalMath	MinceR: you normally believe these are democratic, and it seems over 20 million voted for pro-Putin
[01:48]	CrystalMath	euromaidan took all their rights away, and some were burned alive, but you don't care
[01:48]	CrystalMath	because you believe that people who don't agree with you don't deserve anything
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[01:50]	XRevan86	(Tymoshenko then spent 3 years in prison)
[01:51]	MinceR	CrystalMath: and then you went ahead to claim that Zelenskyy is in power because a coup put him in power and not an election, which is laughable
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[01:52]	CrystalMath	MinceR: no, at that point donbass and crimea seceded
[01:52]	CrystalMath	without those areas, the pro-EU option definitely wins
[01:52]	MinceR	no, donbass and crimea did not "secede"
[01:52]	MinceR	they were annexed by russia
[01:53]	XRevan86	Also keep in mind that Tymoshenko is quite a controversial character but she was in opposition to Yanukovich in the run-off.
[01:53]	XRevan86	This was a lot like the Trump vs. Clinton thing.
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[01:54]	MinceR	also keep in mind that the above map was not about a referendum of whether certain parts of ukraine should be annexed by russia
[01:55]	CrystalMath	it's a very interesting cycle: situation: pro-EU government is in power -> fair elections select someone pro-Putin -> violence breaks out and pro-EU people are put back in power -> repeat
[01:55]	CrystalMath	and it repeats over and over and over
[01:55]	MinceR	how many times has this "cycle" happened? once?
[01:55]	CrystalMath	twice
[01:55]	CrystalMath	in moldova, 3 times
[01:55]	MinceR	what a cycle that "repeats over and over and over"
[01:56]	MinceR	please, can you bother someone else with this nonsense?
[01:56]	CrystalMath	i think that anyone with one functioning neuron can conclude the people are pro-Putin
[01:56]	CrystalMath	they're being brutally held in a pro-EU dictatorship
[01:56]	MinceR	someone with more functioning neurons will conclude the opposite
[01:57]	CrystalMath	which does give them fair elections though, and lets them select their pro-Putin option, and then violently takes their rights
[01:57]	XRevan86	I wish I could have a fair election.
[01:57]	MinceR	same
[01:58]	MinceR	even so, at least it seems to be well known enough that the overwhelming majority of hungarians are pro-EU
[01:58]	MinceR	which implies that even if orban has the sort of support he keeps claiming he has, the people would not want hungary to become a part of russia
[01:59]	CrystalMath	well so far there was no violence in hungary
[01:59]	CrystalMath	no coups, only elections
[01:59]	XRevan86	Should I ask Putin to fix that?
[01:59]	CrystalMath	XRevan86: why would he ruin it?
[01:59]	MinceR	i'm pretty sure there was violence in hungary
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[02:00]	XRevan86	CrystalMath: To undermine the EU?
[02:00]	MinceR	like when orban's thugs physically prevented representatives of the democratic opposition from submitting proposals for referenda
[02:00]	MinceR	also when some fascist physically attacked refugees near the border for no reason
[02:01]	MinceR	also when the police arrested someone for saying something unkind about the gypsy king on faecesbook
[02:01]	CrystalMath	those aren't coups at least
[02:01]	MinceR	yeah, and who cares about anything else
[02:01]	XRevan86	CrystalMath: , ?
[02:02]	CrystalMath	i wouldn't like a coup to happen in hungary, just fair elections
[02:04]	XRevan86	CrystalMath: If Orban decides that Hungary needs to leave the EU and gets the boot, would that be antidemocratic when "the overwhelming majority of hungarians are pro-EU"?
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[02:05]	CrystalMath	i don't know that the overwhelming majority of hungarians are pro-EU
[02:05]	CrystalMath	maybe they were at some point
[02:05]	CrystalMath	but now many vote for euroskeptic orban
[02:06]	CrystalMath	probably there would be a referendum to leave
[02:06]	CrystalMath	and then we would know
[02:06]	CrystalMath	like there was in the UK, and time and time again, the vast majority loudly said "we want to leave"
[02:06]	MinceR	not as long as orban is only useful to putler and winnie the pooh as a spy/lobbyist in the EU
[02:06]	CrystalMath	they gave the tories all the support needed to leave
[02:07]	MinceR	in the UK, the vast majority was lied to, and now the vast majority realizes that
[02:07]	CrystalMath	i think if there was another poll held, leave would still win
[02:07]	CrystalMath	democracy... you keep using that word, i don't think it means what you think it means :>
[02:08]	MinceR	tell that to yourself
[02:08]	CrystalMath	i don't like democracies, i criticize them for being tyrannical to minorities by design
[02:08]	CrystalMath	i say countries should split and secede according to the will of the people
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[02:09]	XRevan86	Democracy is when people choose Putin to rule them forever.
[02:09]	MinceR	lol
[02:10]	XRevan86	Putin is a ruling minority, protect the minority.
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[02:11]	XRevan86	CrystalMath: Pray that Putin doesn't hear you say that.
[02:11]	XRevan86	Unless Russia is exempt from this policy, then it's okay.
[02:12]	CrystalMath	XRevan86: no world superpower would agree with it
[02:12]	CrystalMath	i mean, what i said also means the confederate states of america were legitimate
[02:13]	MinceR	should the slaves not get a vote in this?
[02:13]	CrystalMath	it's one of those "in a perfect world, ..." things
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[02:13]	XRevan86	MinceR: If Taliban gets a state, why not slave owners?
[02:13]	MinceR	:>
[02:14]	MinceR	in a perfect world, humans would not exist
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[02:14]	MinceR	at least not in this lawful evil savage form
[02:14]	XRevan86	Everyone is welcome in CrystalMath's world. As long as it's an oppression machine.
[02:14]	MinceR	slaves are welcome too, they just don't get to have any rights
[02:16]	schestowitz-TR2	[02:14] <MinceR> in a perfect world, humans would not exist
[02:16]	schestowitz-TR2	that's this planet 99.9% of the time
[02:17]	MinceR	:>
[02:17]	MinceR	soon!
[02:17]	schestowitz-TR2	we're only 150,00 years ol
[02:17]	schestowitz-TR2	dand that includes are less ruinoous archetypes
[02:18]	schestowitz-TR2	putin might one day fully erect to 5 feet 6
[02:18]	schestowitz-TR2	from the primate that he is
[02:18]	XRevan86	At first glance we all want the same thing: freedom and rights. But some people want everyone to have rights and others want a right to keep slaves.
[02:19]	CrystalMath	XRevan86: some people believe that freedom just means leaving everyone alone
[02:19]	CrystalMath	that's me
[02:19]	MinceR	people like putler and the "republicans" have propaganda media that has quite the expertise in phrasing oppression as "freedom" and "rights"
[02:20]	XRevan86	- He has a bomb strapped to his belly.
[02:20]	XRevan86	- Leave him alone.
[02:20]	MinceR	are crimean tatars not included in this "everyone", then?
[02:20]	MinceR	are females in taliban afghanistan also not included in it?
[02:22]	CrystalMath	MinceR: i don't like the idea of implementing "good" principles by force
[02:22]	CrystalMath	not even what's currently happening in ukraine
[02:22]	CrystalMath	good is in quotes because nobody knows what is good, it's completely relative
[02:23]	CrystalMath	there is NO universal nor common good, that just doesn't exist
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[02:23]	DaemonFC	Calling their wet markets disgusting is "racist".
[02:24]	MinceR	CrystalMath: ah, so you prefer the idea of sacrificing hundreds of millions (and more) to their masters, who are special and thus get to be left alone and have "freedom"
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[02:24]	MinceR	so in the end, most people really do not count in your view
[02:24]	MinceR	DaemonFC: what is the wet market's race?
[02:26]	MinceR	(and if you believe that nobody knows what is good, why are you even participating in a debate about it?)
[02:27]	CrystalMath	MinceR: because i founded my principles on the basis that nobody knows what is good
[02:28]	MinceR	CrystalMath: are you called "nobody"?
[02:28]	CrystalMath	that's why the world needs to be multipolar, that's why the systems need to be diverse and decentralized
[02:28]	MinceR	CrystalMath: and how can you tell that it's good for the world to be multipolar?
[02:29]	CrystalMath	the idea that everything is relative is an absolute fact
[02:29]	CrystalMath	so it's only logical to decentralize
[02:29]	MinceR	it is also self-contradictory
[02:29]	CrystalMath	and to promote diversity of thought
[02:30]	MinceR	and how does putler poisoning people who disagree with him promote "diversity of thought"?
[02:30]	CrystalMath	i don't believe he does
[02:30]	MinceR	ah, of course
[02:30]	MinceR	so who poisoned Navalny?
[02:32]	MinceR	who poisoned Litvinenko?
[02:33]	MinceR	who poisoned Yushchenko?
[02:34]	GNUmoon2	<CrystalMath> "good is in quotes because nobody knows what is good, it's completely relative" that postmodernist junk, where it erases the meaning of words so people cannot communicate or understand what's happening to them and society (i.e. neoliberalism, capitalism, exploitation, power).
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[02:35]	CrystalMath	MinceR: i'm certain it wasn't putin who poisoned yushchenko, but i don't know who did any of these
[02:35]	MinceR	well, who had access to Novichok, for example?
[02:35]	MinceR	it doesn't grow on trees, you know
[02:36]	MinceR	you won't find Polonium-210 in every bush either.
[02:36]	SkywaveC3	i've read some of Dugin's 4PT book. i get the multipolar argument.
[02:36]	SkywaveC3	to me it is both GDI.
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[02:36]	CrystalMath	MinceR: there's a nice british chemical weapons plant close to where Skripal was poisoned, maybe ask them
[02:37]	MinceR	lol
[02:37]	MinceR	Skywave: why not Nod?
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[02:38]	Skywave	MinceR, GDI is the capitalistic-like techno-fascists from C&C3, Nod would be the communists-lite. it would not be Nod because there is no Nod on this earth at this point.
[02:38]	Skywave	it is GDI vs GDI-lite.
[02:38]	MinceR	:)
[02:38]	Skywave	US-EU vs RU-CH-IN.
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[02:38]	Skywave	i have friends who defend Russia and the multipolar order.
[02:39]	Skywave	to me it is both GDI.
[02:39]	Skywave	just different flavors.
[02:39]	Skywave	i am not a traditionalist so i could never support RU-CH-IN even if i wanted the multipolar world.
[02:39]	Skywave	what i want is J.C.Denton-Helios from Deus Ex Invisible War. a global AGI algocracy. ideally FOSS.
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[02:40]	Skywave	pleases my libertarian communism. otherwise we get the capitalistic iChip technofascist dystopia. it is going to be voluntary or forced one way or the other.
[02:40]	Skywave	or as i like to say, there will be no "free-range humans" on this planet.
[02:40]	MinceR	what's a "free-range human"?
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[02:40]	Skywave	anyone who does not fight for Nod will become GDI.
[02:40]	Skywave	non-microchipped MinceR.
[02:40]	MinceR	afaik almost all humans sleep indoors
[02:41]	Skywave	either GNU+microchip or iChip.
[02:41]	MinceR	and the ones that don't, usually wish they could
[02:41]	Skywave	xD
[02:41]	Skywave	welp we also have brains-in-vats.
[02:41]	Skywave	but this is for much later.
[02:41]	MinceR	we do?
[02:41]	Skywave	as a technological possibility in a few decades yes i believe so.
[02:41]	CrystalMath	Skywave: i'm not a traditionalist either, btw
[02:41]	Skywave	we have managed to get rat brains do that.
[02:41]	Skywave	CrystalMath, good to know.
[02:42]	MinceR	and what sort of microchip do most humans have in them?
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[02:42]	Skywave	i would want a FOSS+openhardware 3dprinted brain-computer interface.
[02:42]	Skywave	uncensorable access to a global information network.
[02:42]	Skywave	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skywave
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[02:42]	Skywave	or LoRa at least.
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[02:42]	Skywave	open-data, ubiquitous sousveillance, narrow AI everywhere used to help humans make sense of their data.
[02:43]	Skywave	not grab it for private profit and governmental exploitation.
[02:43]	Skywave	humans have no idea how valuable their data-patterns are.
[02:43]	MinceR	what sort of microchip do these "non-free-range" humans have in them?
[02:43]	Skywave	either proprietary iChip or they will build their own GNU+microchips.
[02:44]	Skywave	it will be like artwomb vs natural kids.
[02:44]	MinceR	"will"
[02:44]	Skywave	engineered synthetic kids will view the "natural" kids as disgusting.
[02:44]	MinceR	and why would they do that?
[02:44]	Skywave	superior access to information for one, and the groups that do it i think will steamroll groups that don't.
[02:44]	Skywave	once nations start forcing people to iChip themselves, that's it.
[02:44]	Skywave	it is like when militaries started using radio.
[02:44]	MinceR	i think you have a far too high opinion of IT as practiced by humans
[02:45]	Skywave	yes.
[02:45]	Skywave	everything i say is mostly theoretical.
[02:45]	MinceR	such things are more likely to fry the nervous system of whoever is unlucky enough to get them
[02:45]	Skywave	which is why i talk to people to see if i am entirely insane or not.
[02:45]	Skywave	well my idea is not necessarily a microchip.
[02:45]	Skywave	this is the meme.
[02:45]	MinceR	especially if code from MICROS~1, crApple or ibm/deadrat runs on them
[02:45]	Skywave	the idea is ubiquitous data collection.
[02:45]	Skywave	imagine wearables, total surveillance of everything.
[02:46]	MinceR	imagine living in a city that is full of cameras
[02:46]	Skywave	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_surveillance_in_popular_culture
[02:46]	Skywave	'The Light of Other Days is a science-fiction book that praises mass surveillance, under the condition that it is available to everyone. It shows a world in which a total lack of privacy results in a decrease in corruption and crime.'
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[02:46]	Skywave	yes.
[02:46]	Skywave	i want something like Neom.
[02:46]	Skywave	a FOSS Arcology.
[02:46]	Skywave	where we can build Skynet properly.
[02:46]	Skywave	sousveillance everywhere. everything recorded, all data open.
[02:46]	MinceR	imagine carrying a device that lets you access the Internet, but only if the infrastructure has a pretty good idea of where you are
[02:46]	Skywave	every single human action recorded and accessible by everybody.
[02:46]	Skywave	this is the modern capitalist mode, yes. i dislike that.
[02:47]	Skywave	because the data goes for private profit and control.
[02:47]	MinceR	you don't need to have a chip inside you to be able to be surveilled, in most cases
[02:47]	Skywave	yes.
[02:47]	Skywave	people could sign up for alternative systems, give up their information towards causes they agree with.
[02:47]	Skywave	narrow AI already exists, and is used in smartphone "apps", to optimize human bioenergetics.
[02:47]	Skywave	this is what i'm thinking when i say GNU+microchip. not necessarily the literal technology which is several decades/centuries away.
[02:47]	Skywave	like how the robots from the Matrix built their own city, 0-1.
[02:48]	Skywave	humanity discarded the robots, they built their own city.
[02:48]	Skywave	they exterminated humanity at some point.
[02:48]	Skywave	this will happen with the capitalists vs communists.
[02:48]	Skywave	or ARM vs CORE.
[02:48]	Skywave	a war of total annihilation.
[02:48]	MinceR	define "capitalist" and "communist"
[02:48]	Skywave	in the broadest terms possible, private control of others.
[02:49]	Skywave	vs a more shared egalitarian system.
[02:49]	Skywave	intellectual property, patents, this is capitalism.
[02:49]	Skywave	communalism, the Kibbutz system in Israel, this is communism.
[02:49]	MinceR	i doubt anyone else uses these definitions
[02:49]	Skywave	i think far-right vs far-left is prety well-understood at least in a simple level.
[02:49]	Skywave	but i am open to new words.
[02:49]	MinceR	is it?
[02:50]	Skywave	i can say human supremacists or transhumanists if you will.
[02:50]	MinceR	seems to be orthogonal to the above
[02:50]	MinceR	for example, you could implants to liberate someone, but also to enslave them
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[02:50]	Skywave	i like Jreg's 100-axis political map video.
[02:50]	Skywave	yes. so left-transhumanist.
[02:50]	MinceR	as for human supremacy, i'm not sure what humans would be compared to
[02:51]	Skywave	posthumans.
[02:51]	MinceR	that seems to be hard to nail down when we don't even know what posthumans are going to be like, if they'll ever exist
[02:51]	Skywave	some people are viscerally hostile to ideas such as minds merging together, or editing the neural architecture with genetic engineering.
[02:51]	MinceR	(there could even be multiple options)
[02:51]	Skywave	i think i have talked about this with enough people that i can immediately spot the human supremacists.
[02:52]	Skywave	basically some people want to create new experimental life no matter the cost.
[02:52]	Skywave	like proteins -> RNA -> DNA.
[02:52]	Skywave	others want to freeze evolution down to some arbitrary level.
[02:52]	MinceR	i'm pretty sure there are other options
[02:52]	Skywave	i think the purpose of humanity should be to build something better than itself.
[02:52]	Skywave	at each stage, the next lifeform normally dominates the previous lifeforms entirely.
[02:52]	Skywave	not out of malice, but because it is so much better at it.
[02:52]	MinceR	for example, creation of new life doesn't have to risk creating a new pathogen
[02:53]	Skywave	i am thinking of intelligence not simple organisms.
[02:53]	MinceR	afaik for most of the existence of life on earth, no one lifeform dominated all others
[02:53]	MinceR	depending on definition, it might not be the case even now
[02:53]	Skywave	you can read about the RNA world.
[02:53]	MinceR	i know about the RNA world
[02:53]	Skywave	when RNA built DNA, DNA steamrolled RNA.
[02:53]	Skywave	we have no idea what the RNA world might've looked like.
[02:53]	MinceR	except it didn't
[02:53]	Skywave	the only trace is RNA viruses.
[02:53]	MinceR	we have RNA viruses
[02:53]	Skywave	RNA is not free.
[02:54]	MinceR	we have RNA processes
[02:54]	Skywave	yes but no RNA lifeforms.
[02:54]	Skywave	RNA does whatever DNA tells it to.
[02:54]	MinceR	RNA is too simple to be called life
[02:54]	MinceR	at least according to this line of thought
[02:54]	Skywave	this is what AGI will think of DNA.
[02:54]	MinceR	RNA viruses do not do what DNA tell them to
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[02:54]	Skywave	this is why i said RNA viruses are the only leftover.
[02:55]	MinceR	well, RNA-only life couldn't be particularly complex to begin with
[02:55]	Skywave	same again as what AGI will say about DNA.
[02:55]	MinceR	and it had particular requirements for its environment
[02:55]	Skywave	yes.
[02:55]	Skywave	like humans on earth.
[02:55]	MinceR	i doubt any of it was more complex than current RNA viruses
[02:55]	Skywave	right.
[02:55]	MinceR	probably back in the day, no life had a membrane or a capsid
[02:55]	Skywave	beings quadrillions of times more intelligent than all humans throughout history will think we were a drop in the ocean as well.
[02:56]	Skywave	i only see DNA as a stepping-stone.
[02:56]	MinceR	it might be
[02:56]	Skywave	if it is not, i would be very disappointed.
[02:56]	MinceR	hell, considering what we're doing to this planet, DNA may well become nonviable
[02:56]	MinceR	along with RNA
[02:56]	Skywave	if you want to bring it down to realism yes absolutely.
[02:56]	Skywave	everything i say is about making sure i am dealing with CORE people and not ARM.
[02:57]	Skywave	i do not think you are ARM.
[02:57]	Skywave	some people are way too attached to their 5-sense 3+1-dimensional mainstream-everything postage-stamp consensus-reality.
[02:57]	Skywave	they think this is all there is and ever can be.
[02:57]	Skywave	these are ARM, human supremacists.
[02:57]	MinceR	there being CORE or ARM might be an optimistic vision in itself
[02:57]	Skywave	it is an absolutist vision but a good meme. one of the best.
[02:57]	Skywave	GDI/Nod, UEF/Cybrans.
[02:58]	CrystalMath	i'm actually an autarchist, we should all live independently from everyone else
[02:58]	Skywave	Templars from Deus Ex Invisible War are human supremacists who kill all augmented humans, including children, in the game.
[02:58]	MinceR	how do you come into existence independently from everyone else?
[02:58]	Skywave	the individual desires judgment. without that desire, the cohesion of groups is impossible, and so is civilization.
[02:58]	Skywave	the human being created civilization, not because of a willingness, but because of a need to be assimilated into higher orders of structure and meaning.
[02:58]	CrystalMath	Skywave: so what, cohesion sucks
[02:59]	Skywave	the human organism always worships. first it was the gods, then it was fame. the observation and judgment of others. next, it will be the self-aware systems we will build to realize truly omnipresent observation and judgment.
[02:59]	MinceR	CrystalMath: so why have cohesion between your cells?
[02:59]	CrystalMath	MinceR: if i get cancer, rest assured that i will recognize its independence
[02:59]	Skywave	the need to be observed and understood was once satisfied by god. now we can implement the same functionality with data-mining algorithms.
[02:59]	AdmFubar	https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2022/03/02/tonga_submarine_cable_reconnection_revealed/
[02:59]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2022/03/02/tonga_submarine_cable_reconnection_revealed/
[02:59]	TR Bot	 Volcano 'shredded' submarine cable, complicating fix The Register
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[03:00]	Skywave	we will soon have our god. and we will make it with our own hands.
[03:00]	Skywave	god was a dream of good government.
[03:00]	MinceR	no gods, no masters
[03:00]	CrystalMath	Skywave: i don't dream of such things
[03:00]	Skywave	https://deusex.fandom.com/wiki/Morpheus copypasta :D
[03:00]	TR Bot	 Morpheus | Deus Ex Wiki | Fandom
[03:00]	Skywave	i love these quotes.
[03:00]	CrystalMath	Skywave: so i will never accept your "god"
[03:00]	CrystalMath	neither will MinceR
[03:01]	Skywave	i highly recommend Deus Ex & Invisible War.
[03:01]	Skywave	maybe you are Omar, cyborgs.
[03:01]	Skywave	i doubt either of you are Templars.
[03:01]	Skywave	i am 100% J.C.-Helios.
[03:01]	MinceR	"you think that's air you're breathing now?"
[03:01]	CrystalMath	MinceR: yes, it really is
[03:01]	CrystalMath	it's the real world, not fascist fantasies
[03:02]	Skywave	i think we are already living in fascist fantasies.
[03:02]	AdmFubar	https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/03/report_casts_doubt_on_5g/
[03:02]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/03/report_casts_doubt_on_5g/
[03:02]	TR Bot	 5G networks might not cut total energy use, warn boffins The Register
[03:03]	CrystalMath	yes, the world is pretty bad, but it has a great rebellion movement
[03:03]	Skywave	i support Nod.
[03:03]	MinceR	rebellion against what?
[03:03]	Skywave	everything.
[03:03]	MinceR	rebel without a cause
[03:03]	Skywave	my psychological profile is 'rebels against everything'.
[03:03]	Skywave	i rebel against the physical universe itself.
[03:03]	Skywave	like in Gnosticism.
[03:04]	CrystalMath	oh, i don't... i support all the natural stuff
[03:04]	Skywave	physicality is an Archontic trap by the Demiurge.
[03:04]	CrystalMath	just hate all human structures
[03:04]	Skywave	the ideal is to turn all matter into computronium.
[03:04]	CrystalMath	it's not my ideal
[03:04]	CrystalMath	i would rather destroy everything man-made
[03:04]	MinceR	we may end up not needing all matter in one universe
[03:05]	MinceR	we might even end up transcending matter
[03:05]	CrystalMath	MinceR: i oppose that too
[03:05]	Skywave	yes MinceR i know ;_; i agree.
[03:05]	Skywave	i am Ascension all the way. but it may never happen.
[03:05]	Skywave	the purpose of life is to find out the purpose of life.
[03:05]	Skywave	if there isn't any, try finding it out anyway.
[03:05]	CrystalMath	there is no purpose of life
[03:05]	Skywave	you can't know that, that's the point :>
[03:05]	MinceR	i thought the purpose of life was to reproduce
[03:05]	CrystalMath	i know that for sure
[03:05]	Skywave	of biological life sure.
[03:06]	Skywave	not capital l Life.
[03:06]	MinceR	is it really life if it does not reproduce?
[03:06]	Skywave	such concepts may not exist at high enough levels.
[03:06]	CrystalMath	Skywave: i've completely severed my ties with platonism long ago
[03:06]	CrystalMath	i strongly believe that humans are just animals and 100% matter
[03:06]	Skywave	i am 100% Aristotle, **** Plato lol.
[03:06]	Skywave	yes me too.
[03:06]	Skywave	just that what we see as 'matter' on 5 senses and 3 dimensions may be only a fraction of what really exists.
[03:07]	CrystalMath	aristotle was even more of a moron :S
[03:07]	Skywave	i am not into 'woo'.
[03:07]	CrystalMath	epicurus was the only one that was right
[03:07]	Skywave	welp i like Aristotle so w/e you can hate him if you want.
[03:07]	Skywave	i also like Hegel.
[03:07]	CrystalMath	i hate hegel, that's the father of fascism
[03:07]	MinceR	we have more than 5 senses
[03:07]	Skywave	xD
[03:07]	MinceR	and at least 1 dimension of time
[03:07]	Skywave	i'm talking about embedding our consciousness into the very fabric of existence MinceR
[03:07]	Skywave	somehow.
[03:08]	CrystalMath	our consciousness is not worth anything
[03:08]	MinceR	so what?
[03:08]	MinceR	do you want to get rid of it?
[03:08]	Skywave	lol consciousness may be an illusion but it is still awesome.
[03:08]	Skywave	https://nautil.us/is-physical-law-an-alien-intelligence-2-10052/
[03:08]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: nautil.us | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://nautil.us/is-physical-law-an-alien-intelligence-2-10052/
[03:08]	TR Bot	 Is Physical Law an Alien Intelligence? - Nautilus | Science Connected
[03:08]	Skywave	i am technically an eliminative materialist.
[03:08]	CrystalMath	no, but i do believe that industrial society needs to be defeated
[03:08]	Skywave	but i think the mind is pretty interesting.
[03:09]	MinceR	"Time is an illusion. Lunchtime, doubly so."
[03:09]	Skywave	i am 100% pro-industry, but i empathize with deep ecology. so, solarpunk.
[03:09]	Skywave	Adeptus Mechanicus.
[03:09]	CrystalMath	i hope that humans absolutely never get to this point again
[03:09]	Skywave	https://www.goonhammer.com/getting-started-adeptus-mechanicus/
[03:09]	Skywave	Who are the Adeptus Mechanicus?
[03:09]	Skywave	From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel. I aspired to the purity of the blessed machine. Your kind cling to your flesh as if it will not decay and fail you. One day the crude biomass you call a temple will wither and you will beg my kind to save you.
[03:09]	Skywave	But I am already saved. For the Machine is Immortal.
[03:09]	Skywave	 Mechanicus
[03:09]	MinceR	the AdMech forgot most of what humanity knew
[03:09]	CrystalMath	just wreck all technology
[03:09]	TR Bot	Started: Adeptus Mechanicus | Goonhammer
[03:09]	CrystalMath	and never ever reach this point again
[03:09]	Skywave	AdMech contains some good ones in the Explorators.
[03:09]	CrystalMath	but rather live in pre-industrial times forever
[03:09]	Skywave	yes CrystalMath we are complete opposites xD
[03:10]	Skywave	like monkeys wanting to remain monkeys, some wanting to become human.
[03:10]	Skywave	you'd look at me and say what do you mean you want to become human. stay monkey.
[03:10]	Skywave	the ****'s wrong with you, here have a banana.
[03:10]	Skywave	xD
[03:10]	MinceR	also, flesh and steel are not the only available materials for construction
[03:10]	Skywave	i want substrate-independent cognition.
[03:10]	Skywave	but AdMech is good memes.
[03:10]	Skywave	Silica Animus all the way.
[03:11]	CrystalMath	Skywave: well that's just phase 1, phase 2 is humans go extinct, and hopefully intelligent life never forms again
[03:11]	CrystalMath	wipe out all consciousness from the universe
[03:11]	MinceR	i'd like to see more of intelligent life
[03:11]	Skywave	i think you are too blackpilled CrystalMath. MinceR is more to my vibrational frequency.
[03:11]	Skywave	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_de_Garis
[03:11]	Skywave	'Cosmism is a moral philosophy that favours building or growing strong artificial intelligence and ultimately leaving Earth to the Terrans, who oppose this path for humanity. It is this "cosmic" view of history, in which the fate of one single species, on one single planet, is seen as insignificant next to the fate of the known universe, that gives the Cosmists their name.'
[03:11]	Skywave	'Hugo identifies with that group and noted that it "would be a cosmic tragedy if humanity freezes evolution at the puny human level".'
[03:11]	CrystalMath	Skywave: i love chaos, i hate structures
[03:11]	TR Bot	 Hugo de Garis - Wikipedia
[03:11]	Skywave	i love chaos, i love order.
[03:12]	Skywave	i love everything.
[03:12]	Skywave	xD
[03:12]	Skywave	expand possibilities and probabilities as much as possible.
[03:12]	Skywave	Necrons wanted to shut down the Empyrean in 40k, i think this is very cringe.
[03:12]	MinceR	lol
[03:13]	Skywave	CrystalMath is probably C'tan.
[03:13]	MinceR	and yet the AdMech worship the Necrons
[03:13]	Skywave	in terms of technology.
[03:14]	MinceR	there isn't much else left of the Necrons
[03:14]	Skywave	not in terms of this https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Blackstone
[03:14]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: lexicanum.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Blackstone
[03:14]	TR Bot	 Blackstone (disambiguation) - Warhammer 40k - Lexicanum
[03:14]	Skywave	AdMech does not try to build blackstones to block off the Warp.
[03:14]	Skywave	it is fine to explore other technologies.
[03:14]	Skywave	and technically it is banned as xenotech.
[03:14]	MinceR	AdMech do not understand the Necrons
[03:15]	Skywave	so it is already the Hereteks who study it lol.
[03:15]	MinceR	and they do not understand their own technology either
[03:15]	Skywave	yes.
[03:15]	Skywave	the Imperium is ****.
[03:15]	MinceR	and technically they're banned from scientific research and development
[03:15]	Skywave	yes i said above as well.
[03:15]	MinceR	much like in this reality, humans are fucked
[03:15]	Skywave	humans in 40k are at least irrelevant.
[03:15]	Skywave	this is actually liberating.
[03:15]	Skywave	here it is much more serious.
[03:15]	MinceR	well, they're pretty good at causing suffering
[03:15]	MinceR	just like here
[03:16]	Skywave	the meme in 40k is that most of the planets are nothing like grimdark.
[03:16]	Skywave	here the suffering is infinite because it is just one planet.
[03:16]	Skywave	the Astartes just go to some planets and grab a bunch of soldiers and that's it. conscription. otherwise they leave the planets alone.
[03:16]	MinceR	well, most of the planets are not habitable
[03:16]	Skywave	very few systems are involved in active warfare. compared to the whole Imperium.
[03:16]	Skywave	yes.
[03:17]	Skywave	i would argue one earth suffers more under capitalism than an entire galaxy under the Imperium.
[03:17]	MinceR	every Imperium system is involved in brutal totalitarian oppression, though
[03:17]	MinceR	see, now i have to look up your definition for it
[03:17]	Skywave	i think it is a little bit more nuanced but i can probably grant that.
[03:17]	MinceR	pretty sure the Imperium still has all that horrible stuff
[03:17]	Skywave	there _are_ a few "democratic" systems.
[03:17]	Skywave	maybe i have read more recent lore.
[03:17]	MinceR	Imaginary Property and all that
[03:18]	Skywave	i can grant that there is nothing like the Interex or truly free system.
[03:18]	MinceR	iirc most of the production, at least on Hive Worlds, is organized in corporations, as they are now
[03:18]	Skywave	forget Hive Worlds xD
[03:18]	Skywave	and Forge Worlds xDDDDD
[03:18]	MinceR	and the people owning them are very rich and powerful
[03:18]	Skywave	yes.
[03:18]	Skywave	my point is that there are a few systems that are relatively "free".
[03:18]	Skywave	on this planet there's nothing, only SWIFT.
[03:18]	Skywave	lol.
[03:19]	MinceR	and the most powerful humans of the Imperium, aside from the Dead Guy On His Golden Toilet, are the Lords of Terra
[03:19]	Skywave	i think Space Marines control everything in the sense that without them nobody would bother to do anything.
[03:19]	Skywave	AdMech will keep existing even if the rest of the Imperium crumbled entirely.
[03:19]	Skywave	so LoT is just lording it over.
[03:20]	MinceR	could, but it's not guaranteed
[03:20]	Skywave	no.
[03:20]	MinceR	and there are other subsets that could keep existing, too
[03:20]	Skywave	oh yes absolutely.
[03:20]	Skywave	the eunuchs in T'au territory xD
[03:20]	MinceR	lol
[03:20]	Skywave	xD
[03:20]	Skywave	gottem
[03:21]	MinceR	the pheromonally brainwashed poor sods
[03:21]	Skywave	yeah the 
[03:21]	Skywave	Ethereal caste.
[03:21]	Skywave	awful.
[03:21]	Skywave	very very awful.
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[03:33]	AdmFubar	https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/mar/02/fitbit-recalls-17m-ionic-smartwatches-due-to-burn-hazard
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[03:33]	TR Bot	 Fitbit recalls 1.7m Ionic smartwatches because of burn hazard | Technology | The Guardian
[03:33]	IPFS	 New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above.
[03:35]	MinceR	fitbit almost copies crApple, but blows it when it actually recalls shoddy products? :>
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[03:51]	TR Bot	 Melinda French Gates says she is friendly but not friends with Bill Gates | Melinda French Gates | The Guardian
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[04:14]	TR Bot	iCloud Data Is 'Phenomenal' To Law Enforcement Agencies | CodePre.com
[04:24]	AdmFubar	https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/03/01/1628215&from=rss
[04:24]	TR Bot	 Ethernet Co-Inventor David Boggs Dies at 71 - SoylentNews
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[04:31]	TR Bot	 YouTube's Captions Insert Explicit Language In Kids' Videos - Slashdot
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[05:08]	TR Bot	caught throttling Android apps on Galaxy devices - 9to5Google
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[05:28]	DaemonFC	I ran into an article where the author says Ukraine might be violating the Geneva Conventions by putting pictures of dead Russians and POWs on a Telegram channel.
[05:28]	DaemonFC	Russia is violating it by tossing cruise missiles and vacuum bombs at children.
[05:29]	DaemonFC	Fuck Russia. Who cares if Ukraine shows them what happened to their relatives and humiliates them?
[05:29]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, I ran into a FOSS rebuild of Telegram's app on F-Droid.
[05:30]	DaemonFC	Apparently, most of it is under the GPL. Enough that it can work without blobs. They replaced the maps with OpenStreetMaps.
[05:31]	DaemonFC	As far as I can tell, Ukraine is taking prisoners and treating them as well as can be expected given the circumstances, which is more than they deserve.
[05:31]	DaemonFC	The Russians are well known for not taking POWs in the first place, by murdering soldiers that are trying to surrender.
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[05:50]	DaemonFC	MinceR, Gas is now 70 cents per gallon higher in Lake County, Illinois than it is 6 miles north in Wisconsin.
[05:51]	DaemonFC	It's now worth it to just run my tank down and then drive up to Wisconsin to fill it back up.
[05:54]	DaemonFC	https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-gas-prices-near-me-illinois-station/11618330/
[05:54]	TR Bot	 Chicago gas prices creep up to or pass $5, driven by Russia-Ukraine war - ABC7 Chicago
[05:54]	DaemonFC	They forget to mention it's $4.09 in Lake County.
[05:54]	DaemonFC	So a full dollar of that is additional taxes you only pay because of Chicago and Cook County.
[05:54]	DaemonFC	Then a few miles north in Wisconsin, it's $3.59 a gallon.
[05:55]	DaemonFC	So yeah, totally all because of Ukraine.
[05:56]	DaemonFC	Mandy found a video of some deer running across a road. A guy in a BMW stops and a deer goes to jump over it, lands on the car, scratches the car up, and then runs off.
[05:56]	DaemonFC	MinceR, No harm to the deer, I think.
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[06:03]	DaemonFC	https://i.redd.it/vaqjgozpt8l81.png
[06:03]	DaemonFC	Hong Kong went from full democracy to "hybrid regime". One notch above "totalitarian state".
[06:04]	DaemonFC	Notably, most majority-white countries are somewhere between full and flawed democracies.
[06:05]	DaemonFC	Most majority-Hispanic and Asian countries are between flawed democracies and hybrid regimes.
[06:05]	DaemonFC	Most majority-black and a few asian countries are full on dictatorships.
[06:06]	DaemonFC	Every Middle Eastern Arab country is either on the more authoritarian side of dictatorship or full blown dictatorship.
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[06:07]	DaemonFC	Israel gets a lot of flak, but they're the only country in the Middle East that doesn't murder homosexuals and atheists on the spot and then laugh about it.
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[06:09]	DaemonFC	The UK is very close to joining the US as a flawed democracy.
[06:12]	DaemonFC	MinceR, I don't know what France and Germany plan to do with the yachts.
[06:13]	DaemonFC	I would hope they drain the fuel tanks, put some plastic explosives on them, tow them out to sea, and sink them.
[06:13]	DaemonFC	Then email the videos to the Russian billionaires who owned them.
[06:17]	DaemonFC	https://www.npr.org/2022/03/03/1084177384/russia-credit-rating-ruble
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[06:17]	TR Bot	 Moody's downgrades Russia's credit rating to junk : NPR
[06:17]	DaemonFC	Moody's ratings are rigged.
[06:17]	DaemonFC	They had Illinois at Baa2, which is one notch above where Russia is now.
[06:18]	DaemonFC	Then when Pritzker got in and started a spending spree with money we don't have, suddenly Illinois gets four credit rating upgrades.
[06:20]	DaemonFC	https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/03/03/a-safer-signal-department-of-transportation-introduces-new-flashing-yellow-turn-arrows-in-lake-county/
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[06:20]	TR Bot	 'A safer signal': Department of transportation introduces new flashing yellow turn arrows in Lake County
[06:20]	DaemonFC	Indiana has had these for over ten years.
[06:21]	DaemonFC	Illinois forces you to wait and burn gas sometimes for minutes, when there's nothing coming.
[06:21]	DaemonFC	Very environmentally friendly.
[06:44]	DaemonFC	https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/27/business/russian-vodka-boycotts/index.html
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[06:44]	TR Bot	want to boycott Russian vodka. Here's why that won't work - CNN
[06:44]	DaemonFC	Hardly any vodka sold in America is from Russia. Only about 1% sold last year was made in Russia.
[06:45]	DaemonFC	People are pouring out bottles that were made in America and throughout Western European countries by descendants of Russian immigrants with no other ties to Russia, who have voiced disapproval of the war.
[06:46]	DaemonFC	It makes sense to get rid of the brands actually made in Russia, but won't damage their economy very much.
[06:46]	DaemonFC	We can make vodka here.
[06:46]	DaemonFC	The Russian government controls and taxes vodka exports, but their marketshare in the US was collapsing anyway.
[06:46]	DaemonFC	In 2011, it was 2.5%.
[06:53]	DaemonFC	If I wasn't married, I'd probably go join up to fight the Russians over there.
[06:53]	DaemonFC	Other than this, my life hasn't gone very well and I'd say they may kill me, and I might take a few of them with me.
[06:55]	DaemonFC	It doesn't surprise me that they managed to get 16,000 foreign fighters in just a week even though it's difficult to get over there right now.
[06:55]	DaemonFC	A lot of people don't like the Russians very much.
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[06:57]	activelow	some Ukrainians consider themselves part of Russia; in fact their language and culture are very close
[06:57]	activelow	ly related
[06:59]	DaemonFC	Ukraine is at least coming around on LGBT rights.
● Mar 04
[07:00]	DaemonFC	As a Russian colony, it certainly won't improve.
[07:01]	DaemonFC	Vladimir Putin's party's attacks on LGBT Russians is a cynical ploy to gain support at the expense of the rights of human beings just as is the Republican Party's antics here in the United States.
[07:04]	DaemonFC	https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/04/russian-soldiers-ukraine-anger-duped-into-war
[07:04]	TR Bot	 Demoralised Russian soldiers tell of anger at being duped into war | Russia | The Guardian
[07:04]	DaemonFC	Abandoning their vehicles and returning on foot.
[07:04]	DaemonFC	Good time to blow something up in case they come back.
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[07:13]	DaemonFC	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiE5E78-JI4
[07:13]	TR Bot	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=PiE5E78-JI4
[07:13]	TR Bot	yewtu.be | As Illinois Ranks Top Corrupted State, Experts Say Issue Is Getting Better - Invidious
[07:16]	DaemonFC	The federal government is looking to indict a bunch more people on the red light camera scandal.
[07:16]	DaemonFC	The state government is considering some bills that would remove most or all of the cameras.
[07:28]	TR News	#Techrights Bulletin for Thursday, March 03, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
[07:28]	TR Bot	 Bulletin Archives
[07:29]	TR News	#Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
[07:29]	TR Bot	 Techrights Full IPFS Index
[07:29]	TR News	#joindiaspora shuts down about 12 hours from now, along with its longstanding Linux/Tux Machines account. To follow what we post bypass these 'middlemen', use RSS feeds: http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/feed
[07:30]	TR News	Over the years the criminals (Presidents) who had hijacked the EPO hired from the British and French military (for a patent office!), which might explain the military-grade propaganda Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/03/real-presidents/ #Techrights #EPO #Europe #Corruption #Patents | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/03/real-presidents/
[07:30]	TR Bot	 A Real President | Techrights
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[07:37]	TR News	"any free software that attempts to sabotage russians is not free and should be considered non-free" https://www.techrepublic.com/article/tiny-core-linux-is-the-smallest-linux-distribution-on-the-market-with-a-big-heart/
[07:37]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: techrepublic.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techrepublic.com/article/tiny-core-linux-is-the-smallest-linux-distribution-on-the-market-with-a-big-heart/
[07:38]	TR Bot	Core Linux is the smallest Linux distribution on the market with a big heart | TechRepublic
[07:38]	TR News	"any free software that attempts to sabotage russians is not free and should be considered non-free" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-030322.html#tMar%2003%20sv20:07:47
[07:38]	TR Bot	 IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, March 03, 2022
[07:43]	TR News	"Youll need a [Microsoft] GitHub account, since its all handled through the repository." This sucks, #deletegithub , #arduino https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/02/28/arduino-documentation-goes-open-source-for-community-contributions/
[07:43]	TR Bot	 Arduino documentation goes open-source for community contributions
[07:43]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: arduino.cc | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/02/28/arduino-documentation-goes-open-source-for-community-contributions/
[07:45]	TR News	#Microsoft #Windows TCO https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2022/03/justin-reilly-rising-ransomware-threats-on-schools-require-better-approach-to-cybersecurity/
[07:45]	TR Bot	 Justin Reilly: Rising Ransomware Threats on Schools Require Better Approach to Cybersecurity : Broadband Breakfast
[07:45]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: broadbandbreakfast.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2022/03/justin-reilly-rising-ransomware-threats-on-schools-require-better-approach-to-cybersecurity/
[07:47]	TR News	#ICANN as weapon of #war https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/ukraine-unplug-russia-internet-denied-icann-1315816/
[07:47]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: rollingstone.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/ukraine-unplug-russia-internet-denied-icann-1315816/
[07:47]	TR Bot	 Ukraine's Plea to Unplug Russia From the Internet Is Denied - Rolling Stone
[07:51]	TR News	"Gemini's obscurity and lack of utility means that there are no analytics, no metrics, no ways to go viral, to monetize people's attention, build a career or even a minimally-functional web platform." gemini://alex.flounder.online/gemlog/2021-01-08-useless.gmi
[07:52]	TR News	#billgates #sextrafficking #gatesfoundation #famouscriminal #investigateNOW https://boingboing.net/2022/03/03/melinda-french-gates-said-bills-relationship-with-jeffrey-epstein-led-to-the-end-of-their-marriage.html
[07:52]	TR Bot	 Melinda French Gates said Bill's relationship with Jeffrey Epstein led to the end of their marriage | Boing Boing
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[07:53]	TR News	#web3 = cranks https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg25333760-200-web3-is-an-empty-buzzword-but-beware-it-can-still-hurt-you/
[07:53]	TR Bot	 Web3 is an empty buzzword but beware, it can still hurt you | New Scientist
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[07:56]	schestowitz	XRevan86: https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/03/04/many-readers-in-russia-unable-to-access-meduza-s-website-official-block-unconfirmed-as-yet
[07:56]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: meduza.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/03/04/many-readers-in-russia-unable-to-access-meduza-s-website-official-block-unconfirmed-as-yet
[07:56]	TR Bot	 NO TITLE
[07:59]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, Went back to the article on Sprint and added more.
[07:59]	DaemonFC	https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/03/04/how-t-mobile-took-over-sprint-destroyed-30000-american-jobs-and-raised-phone-bills-with-the-help-of-donald-trump/
[07:59]	TR Bot	 How T-Mobile took over Sprint, destroyed 30,000 American jobs, and raised phone bills with the help of Donald Trump. BaronHK's Rants
[07:59]	DaemonFC	Some citations, some talk about how T-Mobile skirts WARN Acts and unemployment claims by doing "firings due to not being vaccinated for COVID", etc.
● Mar 04
[08:01]	DaemonFC	"They do layoffs like Microsoft and IBM. A piece at a time and perpetual fear of losing your job to get you to work harder, then you may just lose it anyway."
[08:02]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, Microsoft and IBM are notorious for toxic workplace culture.
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[08:02]	DaemonFC	Sexual harassment, monthly layoffs, etc.
[08:03]	DaemonFC	I did a post about Jeremy Soule a while back.
[08:05]	DaemonFC	Work is negatively correlated to wealth.
[08:05]	DaemonFC	Right up until you get to the CEO.
[08:05]	DaemonFC	Then he's just a guy who tells other people to do things and gets big paychecks.
[08:06]	DaemonFC	Like, one of the factories I used to work at.
[08:06]	DaemonFC	Did the CEO know how to run factories? No. He hired plant managers.
[08:07]	DaemonFC	Did the CEO build anything, pack it, figure out shipping schedules, work with the clients to fulfill orders? Nope.
[08:07]	DaemonFC	There's people for all of that, and it's not him.
[08:07]	DaemonFC	THe only non-essential thing in the whole company was the CEO.
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[08:09]	DaemonFC	If the company went bankrupt, and the workers bought it and turned it around, they could hire a plant manager to take care of the big picture and no CEO would be needed at that point.
[08:09]	DaemonFC	That's actually what happened at Republic Windows and Doors in Chicago during the Great Recession.
[08:12]	DaemonFC	Ukraine asked ICANN to kick out all Russian TLDs.
[08:12]	DaemonFC	They should, but they should get rid of .su for sure.
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[08:13]	DaemonFC	Nobody using it was ever connected to the Soviet Union because the TLD was rolled out after it collapsed.
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[08:15]	TR News	$39 #MangoPi -Nezha MQ RISC-V developer board runs OpenWrt, Debian, or RT-Smart RTOS (Crowdfunding) - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/03/04/mangopi-nezha-mq-risc-v-developer-board-openwrt-debian-rt-smart-rtos/ #Linux #GNU #Hardware #cnxsoftware | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/03/04/#latest
[08:15]	TR Bot	 $39 MangoPi-Nezha MQ RISC-V developer board runs OpenWrt, Debian, or RT-Smart RTOS (Crowdfunding) - CNX Software
[08:15]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: cnx-software.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/03/04/mangopi-nezha-mq-risc-v-developer-board-openwrt-debian-rt-smart-rtos/
[08:15]	TR Bot	 Social Control Media Posts
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[08:17]	TR News	#Jrnl - Express Your Feelings on the Digital Diary in Linux Terminal Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162132 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[08:17]	TR Bot	 Jrnl - Express Your Feelings on the Digital Diary in Linux Terminal | Tux Machines
[08:19]	TR News	"A quick reminder: #libei is the library for emulated input. It comes as a pair of C libraries, libei for the client side and libeis for the server side." http://who-t.blogspot.com/2022/03/libei-adding-support-for-passive.html #ibm #redhat
[08:19]	TR Bot	 Who-T: libei - adding support for passive contexts
[08:21]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162133 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[08:21]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[08:24]	TR News	#RedHat : libei, php, and The State of Enterprise Open Source (Made on a Mac With Proprietary Software) Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162134 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[08:24]	TR Bot	 Red Hat: libei, php, and 'The State of Enterprise Open Source' (Made on a Mac With Proprietary Software) | Tux Machines
[08:28]	TR News	#gulag versus public knowledge (contrary to their storytelling) https://torrentfreak.com/fbi-gains-access-to-sci-hub-founders-google-account-data-220303/
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[08:28]	TR Bot	Gains Access to Sci-Hub Founder's Google Account Data * TorrentFreak
[08:28]	TR News	#corruptMedia #nsa #backdoors #mediaBlackout #hypocrisy https://itwire.com/open-sauce/chinese-firm-s-disclosure-of-nsa-malware-ignored-by-most-tech-sites.html
[08:28]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: itwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/open-sauce/chinese-firm-s-disclosure-of-nsa-malware-ignored-by-most-tech-sites.html
[08:28]	TR Bot	- Chinese firm's disclosure of NSA malware ignored by most tech sites
[08:28]	TR News	#ProprietarySoftware Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162135 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[08:28]	TR Bot	 Proprietary Software Leftovers | Tux Machines
[08:32]	TR News	 #IRC Proceedings: Thursday, March 03, 2022 Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/04/irc-log-030322/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/04/irc-log-030322/
[08:32]	TR Bot	 IRC Proceedings: Thursday, March 03, 2022 | Techrights
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[08:34]	TR News	Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162136 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[08:34]	TR Bot	 today's leftovers | Tux Machines
[08:34]	TR News	Links 4/3/2022: $39 #MangoPi , Linux Mint Changes Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/04/usd-39-mangopi/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/04/usd-39-mangopi/
[08:35]	TR Bot	 Links 4/3/2022: $39 MangoPi, Linux Mint Changes | Techrights
[08:35]	TR News	#joindiaspora shuts down about 11 hours from now, along with its longstanding Linux/Tux Machines account. To follow what we post bypass these 'middlemen', use RSS feeds: http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/feed
[08:38]	TR News	"There are 2176 capsules. We successfully connected recently to 1773 of them." Growing fast, still. gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi #geminiSpace #geminiProtocol
[08:40]	TR News	Liberation and Freedom Day (Charlottesville, Virginia, USA) gemini://vault.transjovian.org/full/en/March_3
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[09:01]	TR News	Open source tools to introduce students to computer science Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162137 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[09:01]	TR Bot	 Open source tools to introduce students to computer science | Tux Machines
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[09:09]	TR News	Renesas introduces RZ/Five Linux-capable 64-bit RISC-V microprocessor family http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162118#comment-32969
[09:09]	TR Bot	 Renesas unveils Linux-driven RISC-V SoC based on an Andes AX45MP core | Tux Machines
[09:12]	TR News	"A successful digital transformation strategy involves more than just technology" but a bunch of clueless managers who break stuff, increase complexity, and call engineers "dinobabies" https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/3/digital-transformation-3-it-culture-traps #redhat #ibm
[09:12]	TR Bot	 Digital transformation: 3 IT culture traps that can hold you back | The Enterprisers Project
[09:13]	TR News	#redhat managers and engineers have been leaving #ibm in droves. Do you really want to take their advice on "tortu[ring] IT talent"? https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/2/it-leadership-3-tips-nurture-it-talent
[09:13]	TR Bot	 IT leadership: 3 tips to nurture IT talent | The Enterprisers Project
[09:14]	TR News	At the moment #ibm #redhat uses #SLAPP action (yes, they are SUING!!) to silence critics and slaves, like people who did unpaid volunteer work for #fedora
[09:18]	TR News	#joindiaspora shuts down about 10 hours from now, along with its longstanding Linux/Tux Machines account. To follow what we post bypass these 'middlemen', use RSS feeds: http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/feed
[09:18]	TR News	Best #RaspberryPi Browsers of 2022 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162138 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[09:18]	TR Bot	 Best Raspberry Pi Browsers of 2022 | Tux Machines
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● Mar 04
[10:06]	psydroid2	XRevan86, why hasn't Russia developed its semiconductor fabrication facilities over the past decade to become more indepdendent in that respect?
[10:08]	psydroid2	https://www.investmentmonitor.ai/special-focus/ukraine-crisis/taiwan-semiconductor-ban-russia-catastrophe
[10:08]	TR Bot	 Can Russia cope without Taiwan's semiconductors? Investment Monitor
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[10:11]	activelow	psydroid2: sorry to intervene, yet there was some argument in 1990, the east-german semi-conductor facilities were "incompetitive"
[10:12]	activelow	otherwise, i wasn't aware the Netherland Gigatron TTL and similar gear were considered "competitive", "cost-effective", etc.
[10:15]	psydroid2	it just looks like some way to preemptively strike a country's industry, so people give in and accept the dominance of US companies
[10:18]	activelow	i stumbled upon reports General Electric US nuclear plant operators too were desparate to hire PDP-11 era staff
[10:22]	activelow	https://www.theregister.com/2013/06/19/nuke_plants_to_keep_pdp11_until_2050/
[10:22]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2013/06/19/nuke_plants_to_keep_pdp11_until_2050/
[10:22]	TR Bot	 Nuke plants to rely on PDP-11 code UNTIL 2050! The Register
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[10:38]	activelow	as far as i am concerned, it is unacceptable, the last intel x86 system barely passing minimum-acceptance verficication was an i8086 deployed to an FPGA
[10:39]	activelow	which requires a shitload of proprietary software and IBM PC to accomplish this
[10:39]	activelow	Gigatron TTL is a better choice in this regard
[10:40]	activelow	besides the "human factor" of my individual surroundings to work and live, in germany i might add
[10:41]	activelow	furthermore, i consider, my opinion, even less critical systems posing a threat to critical infrastructure
[10:41]	activelow	because there is none anymore, which would qualify for long-term reliable operation of some decades
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[10:43]	activelow	"Russia demands hard security guarantees from Sweden", we'll see where they're heading, if Sweden is the chifre for linux kernel and Torvalds
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[10:45]	activelow	reminder, NASA was desparate to source i8086 spare parts for their SpaceShuttle, before this project was terminated
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[10:45]	activelow	that's why, the Tesla SpaceX endeavour and other modern aerospace achievements aren't as impressive as those are presented, because none of them had proven long-term reliable operation
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[10:54]	activelow	it's just some random picks, concerning less critical systems, to see what netsurf-browser can navigate in the recent web, few years later... see for yourself how a standards-compliant browser such as this is treated by most google services
[10:54]	psydroid2	I'm less concerned with the US and NASA than I am with other countries' sovereignty and ability to control their supply and production chain
[10:54]	psydroid2	netsurf is the only browser I have been able to run on any operating system so far
[10:55]	activelow	well, web browsers is only a random pick in the mountain of shit
[10:55]	activelow	and i don't think there is any coordination of supply chains remaining anywhere anymore, including USA itself
[10:59]	activelow	with coordination i mean plans for long-term reliability
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[11:29]	TR News	Today is the Last Goodbye to #SocialControlMedia Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/04/goodbye-social-control-media/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/04/goodbye-social-control-media/
[11:29]	TR Bot	 Today is the Last Goodbye to Social Control Media | Techrights
[11:39]	TR News	#joindiaspora shuts down in less than 9 hours from now (after more than a decade). This account won't be updating after that. But #TuxMachines will be alive and well, just use RSS feeds instead of outsourced 'social' media: http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/feed
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[11:50]	q	hello
[11:50]	SomeH4x0r	hi
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[11:55]	XRevan86	schestowitz: I know. Russia is in full censorship / oppression mode right now.
[11:55]	bnchs	what could hurt these governments to allow their citizens to browse whatever websites they want
[11:56]	XRevan86	psydroid2: Because it's hard to do that from scratch to a competitive level.
[11:56]	schestowitz	gm, XRevan86
[11:57]	schestowitz	spellcheck? http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/03/04/putin-has-failed-russians-and-he-should-step-down-peacefully/
[11:57]	TR Bot	Blog Archive Putin Has Failed Russians and He Should Step Down Peacefully
[11:57]	schestowitz	draft
[11:57]	XRevan86	> "Russia demands hard security guarantees from Sweden", we'll see where they're heading, if Sweden is the chifre for linux kernel and Torvalds
[11:57]	XRevan86	What is going on in activelow's mind?
[11:57]	schestowitz	hi, q
[11:57]	q	helo schestowitz 
[11:57]	schestowitz	XRevan86: don't know, but i do not agree with him on this
[11:57]	schestowitz	XRevan86: can you read the above?
[11:58]	schestowitz	give me feedback
[11:58]	bnchs	i wonder if theres a single government/king that's treated as equally as he treats his citizens
[11:58]	schestowitz	I want to remind people that Russians are people too
[11:58]	schestowitz	rianne is extremely upset about the dehumanisation
[11:58]	schestowitz	she hates Putin
[11:58]	bnchs	that treats himself as equally as he treats his citizens*
[11:58]	schestowitz	but condemns the response
[11:58]	schestowitz	bnchs: yes, similar in Morocco
[11:59]	schestowitz	kings who don't view constituents as people
[11:59]	schestowitz	they don't need to get elected
[11:59]	schestowitz	no actual election
[11:59]	bnchs	yes
[11:59]	schestowitz	so they view the population as "ANIMALS THAT NEED TO BE CONTROLLED"
[11:59]	bnchs	the king can elect whatever he wants
● Mar 04
[12:00]	XRevan86	"This week I worry about Edward Snowden and what might happen to him in case the US (or EU) captures hostages." <- Huh?
[12:00]	bnchs	moroccan shills will tell you thats because moroccans are dumb!!! they cant decide!!
[12:00]	bnchs	(paid) shills
[12:00]	schestowitz-TR2	typical
[12:00]	schestowitz-TR2	gaslighting people
[12:00]	schestowitz-TR2	"hey woman! you dumb. stay hom, take care kids, mmmkay?"|
[12:00]	bnchs	the king only wants control and wealth
[12:01]	schestowitz-TR2	XRevan86: they can arrest some russian oligarchs
[12:01]	schestowitz-TR2	and then do exchanges
[12:01]	schestowitz-TR2	putin already has one
[12:01]	XRevan86	schestowitz: Apart from that, the rest makes sense. And that, to be honest, it's not realistic to expect him to step down.
[12:01]	schestowitz-TR2	i know
[12:01]	schestowitz-TR2	which makes the point
[12:01]	schestowitz-TR2	that he SHOULD have
[12:01]	schestowitz-TR2	but WON'T
[12:01]	schestowitz-TR2	because he's a F***WIT
[12:02]	XRevan86	Fair enough.
[12:02]	schestowitz-TR2	there are other world leaders like that
[12:02]	schestowitz-TR2	and they should be prevented from gaining power in the first place
[12:02]	bnchs	also the king/queen is only chosen from mohammed's family
[12:02]	schestowitz-TR2	that's the only rational thing
[12:02]	schestowitz-TR2	prevention
[12:03]	schestowitz-TR2	bnchs: yes, succession must come from his penis
[12:03]	bnchs	so unless you overthrow him or he stops giving birth
[12:03]	bnchs	his family (with history of human rights violations) is still gonna control the country
[12:05]	bnchs	there are prime ministers but the king chooses them and because of that, it's mostly just islamics and shit
[12:06]	schestowitz-TR2	they use the religion
[12:06]	schestowitz-TR2	putin uses orthdox church shit
[12:06]	schestowitz-TR2	god chose king
[12:06]	schestowitz-TR2	king chose politician
[12:06]	schestowitz-TR2	to deny the politician is to defy a king
[12:06]	schestowitz-TR2	to deny the king is to defy god
[12:06]	schestowitz-TR2	i.e. sacrilegious 
[12:07]	schestowitz-TR2	so just follow orders from another human
[12:07]	bnchs	"god chose king" is what they want you to believe
[12:07]	schestowitz-TR2	that human is your allah
[12:08]	XRevan86	schestowitz: The Russian state was weak and undeveloped, so one man easily took over and destroyed all institutions.
[12:09]	bnchs	this also means that the government is heavily biased towards islam, and criminalizes "shaking the faith of a Muslim"
[12:10]	bnchs	which is intentionally vague, and means that people who convert to other religions can be arrested or face criminal prosecution
[12:12]	bnchs	christians have to practice their faith secretly, in some house
[12:18]	XRevan86	Znak.com is dead :(
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[12:46]	bnchs__	can you rip off a CPU from a console and use it on a PC
[12:46]	bnchs__	like modern-gen x86 consoles
[12:52]	schestowitz-TR2	XRevan86: what is that site?
[12:53]	XRevan86	schestowitz: It was a news reporter.
[12:53]	schestowitz-TR2	I see
[12:53]	schestowitz-TR2	they are a dying breed now
[12:53]	schestowitz-TR2	not only in russia btw
[12:53]	XRevan86	I used their articles even here several times.
[12:53]	schestowitz-TR2	there is growing hostility towards them
[12:54]	schestowitz-TR2	XRevan86: do you want to read my draft comparing epo to putin?
[12:54]	schestowitz-TR2	putin illuminates a worrisome trend
[12:54]	XRevan86	https://t.me/ToBeOr_Official/6373 I just looked at some corpses, now ready to get some lunch and tea.
[12:55]	TR Bot	 Telegram: Contact @ToBeOr_Official
[12:56]	schestowitz	XRevan86: :(
[12:56]	schestowitz	I stopped watching
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[12:58]	XRevan86	Are corpses 18+ still?
[12:58]	bnchs__	gore doesn't bother me
[12:59]	schestowitz-TR2	when one sees it a lot one can get accustomed to it
[12:59]	schestowitz-TR2	XRevan86: wanna see the draft?
● Mar 04
[13:01]	bnchs__	well yeah
[13:01]	XRevan86	schestowitz: I can review the Putin part, not the EPO part.
[13:01]	schestowitz	XRevan86: http://techrights.org/2022/03/04/putinist-patent-office/
[13:01]	TR Bot	 How the EPO is Like Putins Russia | Techrights
[13:01]	schestowitz	maybe you can add analogies
[13:01]	schestowitz	as you know more about the abuses there
[13:01]	schestowitz	I know the EPO better
[13:02]	bnchs__	wait thats the entire video?
[13:03]	bnchs__	i couldn't tell if that was blood or a towel
[13:03]	psydroid9	only al-gore bothers me
[13:04]	bnchs__	well some gore does bother me
[13:05]	bnchs__	like balls being..... nevermind
[13:05]	SomeH4x0r	patterns of pixels on the screen
[13:05]	SomeH4x0r	should not bother you
[13:06]	bnchs__	don't ever imagine that again
[13:06]	XRevan86	schestowitz: The Stalin quote is fake.
[13:07]	XRevan86	He said the first sentence there, the rest I don't know where came from.
[13:08]	bnchs__	SomeH4x0r, lets just say i learnt how to eat after seeing gore
[13:09]	schestowitz	XRevan86: oh
[13:09]	schestowitz	that meme is old
[13:09]	schestowitz	I thought I checked the authenticity enough
[13:10]	schestowitz-TR2	authenticity on the Internet are iffy
[13:10]	schestowitz-TR2	the Internet has everything
[13:10]	XRevan86	https://img4.labirint.ru/rc/dd47a8f9c9a9ac5959798dfe4700c878/220x340/books43/428714/cover.jpg?1403871924
[13:10]	schestowitz-TR2	even the false stuff
[13:10]	XRevan86	"Ideas are far more powerful than guns" is a book title.
[13:10]	XRevan86	The rest looks like snarky commentary.
[13:11]	schestowitz	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin
[13:11]	TR Bot	 Joseph Stalin - Wikipedia
[13:11]	schestowitz	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Purge
[13:11]	TR Bot	 Great Purge - Wikipedia
[13:11]	bnchs__	where did you get the quote
[13:11]	XRevan86	https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin
[13:11]	TR Bot	 Joseph Stalin - Wikiquote
[13:12]	XRevan86	> Often attributed to Stalin, there is not a single source which show that Stalin said this at any given time. The earliest source outside the blogosphere which attributes the quote to Stalin is the book Quotations for Public Speakers : A Historical, Literary, and Political Anthology (2001), p. 121 by the former US senator Robert Torricelli; however, it does not give a source for the quote.
[13:12]	schestowitz	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin#/media/File:Stalin_1902-1.jpg
[13:12]	TR Bot	 Joseph Stalin - Wikipedia
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[13:12]	schestowitz	bnchs__: cannot remember, it was 1-2 years ago
[13:13]	bnchs__	i'm pretty sure theres wikiquot
[13:13]	XRevan86	bnchs__: Is it because I just cited it?
[13:13]	bnchs__	https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin
[13:13]	bnchs__	oh oops you already linked that
[13:14]	bnchs__	sorry
[13:14]	TR News	How the #EPO is Like #Putin s #Russia Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/04/putinist-patent-office/ #Techrights #Europe | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/04/putinist-patent-office/
[13:14]	TR Bot	 How the EPO is Like Putins Russia | Techrights
[13:14]	TR News	#joindiaspora shuts down in less than 7 hours from now (after more than a decade). This account won't be updating after that. But #TuxMachines will be alive and well, just use RSS feeds instead of outsourced 'social' media: http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/feed
[13:17]	XRevan86	Anyway, it's pretty apt, but I think it's obvious that the person that actually said these words lived in the US.
[13:18]	XRevan86	It's a lot less likely that anyone else would focus on population owning guns quite as much.
[13:18]	XRevan86	(also because the original word is more accurately translated as "weaponry")
[13:21]	XRevan86	schestowitz: I don't think I can help with making new analogies here, because it's hard for me to even believe that "theyre no better than RT and Sputnik" is true.
[13:22]	XRevan86	Belarusian TV attributes all the atrocities to the Ukrainian army. That it's invading Ukraine.
[13:22]	XRevan86	That's the level of propaganda we're dealing with.
[13:26]	TR News	#GNULinux Candy: Rusty Aquarium - monitoring by visualization Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162139 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[13:26]	TR Bot	 Linux Candy: Rusty Aquarium - monitoring by visualization | Tux Machines
[13:26]	TR News	#Vim vs Nano: Which is the Best Terminal Text Editor? Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162140 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[13:26]	TR Bot	 Vim vs Nano: Which is the Best Terminal Text Editor? | Tux Machines
[13:27]	schestowitz-TR2	XRevan86:  I am doing another post, in my personal site
[13:27]	schestowitz-TR2	about famine as a weapon
[13:28]	XRevan86	I wish all this is just a fever dream.
[13:30]	bnchs__	or are we in a coma
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[13:43]	schestowitz	XRevan86: http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/03/04/stop-the-war/
[13:43]	TR Bot	Blog Archive Famine and Radiations as Weapons of War; Or: Nobody Will Win in Ukraine
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[13:48]	schestowitz	#SocialControlMedia (no matter if its proprietary, centralised, Free/libre, federated/decentralised, or self-hosted) isnt the future of the Internet; there has never been a better time to leave it all behind, even actively boycott it Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/04/goodbye-social-control-media/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW 
[13:48]	TR Bot	 Today is the Last Goodbye to Social Control Media | Techrights
[13:49]	TR News	Looking carefully at the way Team #Battistelli and #TeamUPC operate, theyre no better than RT and Sputnik, but their lies are being tolerated and even spread by European politicians Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/04/putinist-patent-office/ #Techrights #Europe #Corruption | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/04/putinist-patent-office/
[13:50]	TR News	#Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162141 #Linux #TuxMachines
[13:50]	TR Bot	 Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
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[13:54]	TR News	#Plasma #GameMode https://invent.kde.org/sitter/plasma-gamemode #kde #gnu #linux
[13:54]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: kde.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://invent.kde.org/sitter/plasma-gamemode
[13:54]	TR Bot	 Harald Sitter / plasma-gamemode GitLab
[13:56]	TR News	#joindiaspora shuts down in less than 6 hours from now (after more than a decade). This account won't be updating after that. But #TuxMachines will be alive and well, just use RSS feeds instead of outsourced 'social' media: http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/feed
[13:58]	TR News	Bungie has more to say on Destiny 2 for #SteamDeck and it's still a no | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/bungie-has-more-to-say-on-destiny-2-for-steam-deck-and-its-still-a-no/ #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games
[13:58]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/bungie-has-more-to-say-on-destiny-2-for-steam-deck-and-its-still-a-no/
[13:58]	TR Bot	has more to say on Destiny 2 for Steam Deck and it's still a no | GamingOnLinux
[13:59]	TR News	#SteamDeck Verified and Playable hit a thousand games | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/steam-deck-verified-and-playable-hit-a-thousand-games #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games
[13:59]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/steam-deck-verified-and-playable-hit-a-thousand-games
[13:59]	TR Bot	Deck Verified and Playable hit a thousand games | GamingOnLinux
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[14:00]	TR News	"As expected it did not take too long to reach this new milestone for the #SteamDeck with more than 1000 games working on the device!" https://boilingsteam.com/1000-games-on-the-steam-deck-now/
[14:00]	TR Bot	 1000 Games On The Steam Deck Now! - Boiling Steam
[14:00]	TR News	#EpicGamesStore Now Works on #SteamDeck - It's FOSS News https://news.itsfoss.com/epic-games-steam-deck/
[14:00]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: itsfoss.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://news.itsfoss.com/epic-games-steam-deck/
[14:01]	TR Bot	 Epic Games Store Now Works on Steam Deck - It's FOSS News
[14:04]	bnchs__	lol epic games store now works on steam deck
[14:04]	schestowitz-TR2	yeah
[14:04]	schestowitz-TR2	i loled too
[14:04]	schestowitz-TR2	tim swine-e changed his mind
[14:04]	bnchs__	it's not even the official epic games store
[14:05]	bnchs__	it's heroic game launcher, i guess tim swine-e hasn't changed his mind
[14:05]	schestowitz-TR2	maybe better
[14:05]	schestowitz-TR2	so they bypass him
[14:05]	schestowitz-TR2	he wanted rootkits
[14:05]	bnchs__	i wouldn't support tim swine-e's monopoly on windows-only games
[14:06]	schestowitz-TR2	#kit  monopoly
[14:08]	TR News	#Games: Plasma GameMode, Bungie, and Steam Deck Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162142 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[14:08]	TR Bot	 Games: Plasma GameMode, Bungie, and Steam Deck | Tux Machines
[14:09]	psydroid2	
[14:10]	TR News	#canonical as #pentagon reseller https://ubuntu.com//blog/ubuntu-pro-20-04-fips-is-now-available-for-aws-azure-and-gcp former CEO of the company was a weapons manufacturing (Jane) person
[14:10]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/ubuntu-pro-20-04-fips-is-now-available-for-aws-azure-and-gcp
[14:10]	TR Bot	Pro 20.04 FIPS is now available for AWS, Azure and GCP | Ubuntu
[14:10]	psydroid2	maybe send him to Ukraine and then to Russia
[14:10]	psydroid2	
[14:11]	TR News	How do you know it's not an international back door? https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/03/samsung-encryption-flaw.html
[14:11]	TR Bot	Encryption Flaw - Schneier on Security
[14:13]	TR News	#gulagtube = #marketing #spam (bribed "infleuncers") https://yewtu.be/watch?v=c9MO1STsKW8 see http://techrights.org/2022/02/15/youtube-spam-rewarding-junk/
[14:13]	TR Bot	 Answering ALL your Steam Deck questions. - Invidious
[14:13]	TR Bot	 YouTube is Becoming Mostly SPAM | Techrights
[14:13]	bnchs__	unfortunately tim swine-e gets his funding from loyalites from game companies using his engine
[14:13]	bnchs__	and he uses it to push unreal engine to students (like microsoft)
[14:14]	schestowitz-TR2	yes, that...
[14:14]	schestowitz-TR2	"games"
[14:14]	schestowitz-TR2	war/shooting
[14:14]	schestowitz-TR2	"training"
[14:14]	schestowitz-TR2	"recruitment"
[14:15]	schestowitz	https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/army-military-video-game-fortnite-battlegrounds-call-duty-esports-defence-a8648656.html
[14:15]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: independent.co.uk | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/army-military-video-game-fortnite-battlegrounds-call-duty-esports-defence-a8648656.html
[14:15]	TR Bot	 The US military is using video games and esports to recruit it's downright immoral | The Independent | The Independent
[14:15]	schestowitz	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America%27s_Army
[14:15]	TR Bot	 America's Army - Wikipedia
[14:15]	schestowitz	https://www.vice.com/en/article/5dpa9q/the-pentagons-long-and-complicated-history-with-video-games
[14:15]	TR Bot	 The Pentagons Long and Complicated History With Video Games
[14:16]	bnchs__	lol they use video games to recruit, what a surprise
[14:17]	TR News	#Microsoft #Windows TCO https://www.qt.io/blog/security-advisory-qlockfile-qauthenticator-windows-platform-plugin see http://techrights.org/2021/07/19/microsoft-national-security/
[14:17]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: qt.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.qt.io/blog/security-advisory-qlockfile-qauthenticator-windows-platform-plugin
[14:17]	TR Bot	 Security advisory: QLockFile, QAuthenticator, Windows platform plugin
[14:17]	TR Bot	 Is Microsoft a National Security Threat? | Techrights
[14:17]	bnchs__	they point with a mouse and shoot with a mouse button
[14:17]	bnchs__	you can easily repilcate that in real life
[14:17]	schestowitz-TR2	they become less sensitive to death
[14:17]	schestowitz-TR2	and you can test how they would react in battle to unlawful orders to kill
[14:17]	schestowitz-TR2	to "weed out" people not yet brainwashed enough
[14:18]	schestowitz-TR2	like the ones who desert in Russia's frontline
[14:18]	schestowitz-TR2	because they cannot justify to themselves murdering Ukrainian 
[14:18]	bnchs__	they use call of duty
[14:18]	schestowitz-TR2	and would rather risk jail time in Russia
[14:18]	schestowitz-TR2	maybe Putler neede to train his robots with guns
[14:18]	bnchs__	which is a military-themed FPS game
[14:18]	bnchs__	unsurprised
[14:19]	schestowitz-TR2	and hope Russian geeks are detached enough from what they are developing and what FOR
[14:19]	bnchs__	i don't know how you can go from video games to real life
[14:20]	activelow	XRevan86: it's none of my mind's imaginations
[14:21]	TR News	#clownflare is a #cancer that infects the #www and #cloudflare as a company needs to go extinct, go bankrupt
[14:21]	activelow	Sweden recently announced some NATO affiliation, which Russia responded to they insist on "strong security guarantees"
[14:21]	bnchs__	real life's not as fun as video games, because they don't call you every slur in the dictionary when they die
[14:21]	activelow	it's probably not related to linux, anyway
[14:21]	activelow	except for critical infrastructure maybe, where this type of software is deployed to
[14:23]	activelow	reminds me, in germany final nuclear phase out is scheduled for end of 2022
[14:24]	activelow	which too is a fact, none of my imaginations
[14:24]	TR News	#IBM #RedHat is once again shilling #Microsoft #ProprietarySoftware ; imagine Ukraine's minister of defend shilling Putin https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/03/04/create-azure-red-hat-openshift-cluster-less-5-minutes
[14:24]	TR Bot	 Create an Azure Red Hat OpenShift cluster in less than 5 minutes | Red Hat Developer
[14:25]	bnchs__	schestowitz-TR2, tim swine-e's fortnite is only meant for money extraction from kids (the most vulnerable group) rather than recruitment by the military
[14:25]	TR News	If you wish to move away from #vendor lockin, then you also need to move AWAY from #ibm #redhat
[14:27]	TR News	#ReproducibleBuilds (diffoscope): #diffoscope 207 released https://diffoscope.org/news/diffoscope-207-released/ http://techrights.org/2021/04/29/with-sponsors-like-these/
[14:27]	TR Bot	 diffoscope 207 released
[14:27]	TR Bot	 With Sponsors Like These | Techrights
[14:28]	activelow	schestowitz-TR2: Russian Duma passed legislation for long-term imprisonment of those spreading fake news
[14:28]	schestowitz-TR2	"Fake"
[14:28]	schestowitz-TR2	by whose standards?
[14:28]	schestowitz-TR2	Fake Putin fake?
[14:28]	schestowitz-TR2	butchered to make him look younger?
[14:29]	TR News	"This is a weekly report from the CPE (Community Platform Engineering) Team. If you have any questions or feedback, please respond to this report or contact us on #redhat-cpe channel" https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/cpe-weekly-update-week-of-february-28th-march-3rd/
[14:29]	TR Bot	 CPE Weekly Update - Week of February 28th - March 3rd Fedora Community Blog
[14:31]	XRevan86	schestowitz: Whichever doesn't come from the official Russian sources regarding the "special military operation".
[14:31]	MinceR	04 070348 < DaemonFC> Hong Kong went from full democracy to "hybrid regime". One notch above "totalitarian state".
[14:31]	activelow	in parallel some other legislation was introduced, Russians insist their communication channels must not be censored, otherwise enemy propaganda can continue to freely circulate for everyone to take notice
[14:31]	MinceR	"hybrid regime" is like "hybrid kernel"
[14:31]	TR News	#redhat ought to mention that now, in #ibm as boss/master, they are "IBM employees 100% of the time" (even after work) https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/combine-job-and-hobby
[14:31]	TR Bot	 How to cope when your job and hobby overlap | Enable Sysadmin
[14:31]	XRevan86	schestowitz: Can ye please remove me from all the chat logs published openly on the web?
[14:31]	MinceR	one is "we wish we could call this dictatorship a democracy", the other is "we wish we could call this monolithic kernel a microkernel"
[14:32]	XRevan86	This is not a safe place for me to be in, unfortunately.
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[14:33]	mimorek	Hello
[14:33]	schestowitz-TR2	0/
[14:33]	bnchs__	mobile games are meant for money extraction, they have a department where they design how to extract even more money from used's
[14:33]	MinceR	XRevan86: why not leave immediately?
[14:34]	mimorek	\0
[14:34]	MinceR	just tell them you fully support the russian invasion of ukraine when they ask you at the airport
[14:34]	XRevan86	MinceR: Insufficient.
[14:34]	bnchs__	as of 2021, mobile games revenue have been 180 billion dollars
[14:34]	MinceR	and buy a return ticket
[14:35]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162143 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[14:35]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[14:35]	schestowitz-TR2	MinceR: russia wants to "return" ukraine
[14:36]	schestowitz-TR2	russia loves ukraine
[14:36]	bnchs__	mobile games are more profitable because of how many psychological tricks they use on their used's
[14:36]	schestowitz-TR2	microsoft loves linux
[14:36]	mimorek	Where would you point people to who need help installing software for communcation and offline land map programs, for when the internet fails?
[14:36]	MinceR	https://i.redd.it/ij33d38wc6l81.png   https://nitter.net/christogrozev/status/1499368689015087104
[14:36]	TR Bot	 Christo Grozev (@christogrozev): "Russian "court" approved today Russia's censor RosComNadzor's fine imposed on @bellingcat for not branding itself "foreign agent". The fine is half a million rubles. We will wait one week and then gladly pay the 10 cents." | nitter
[14:36]	mimorek	Sorry for being so direct.
[14:36]	bnchs__	IRC over HAM radio
[14:37]	schestowitz-TR2	mimorek: someone wrote about it this week
[14:37]	schestowitz-TR2	hang on
[14:37]	mimorek	Someone asked me an hour ago.
[14:38]	schestowitz-TR2	maybe it's in irc scrollback still
[14:38]	TR News	#Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162144 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[14:38]	TR Bot	 Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
[14:38]	TR News	IBM/Red Hat Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162145 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[14:38]	TR Bot	 IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines
[14:38]	mimorek	He is from Kyiv
[14:39]	schestowitz	https://changelog.complete.org/archives/10356-tools-for-communicating-offline-and-in-difficult-circumstances
[14:39]	schestowitz	found it
[14:39]	TR Bot	 Tools for Communicating Offline and in Difficult Circumstances | The Changelog
[14:39]	schestowitz	more in http://techrights.org/category/news-roundup/
[14:39]	TR Bot	 News Roundup | Techrights
[14:39]	mimorek	He was in the fsf channel on libera, but there weren't many people active.
[14:39]	schestowitz	https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/03/wartime-bad-time-mess-internet
[14:39]	TR Bot	 Wartime Is a Bad Time To Mess With the Internet | Electronic Frontier Foundation
[14:39]	schestowitz	https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/02/very-very-bad-ideas-ukraine-asks-icann-to-disconnect-russia-from-the-internet/
[14:39]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/02/very-very-bad-ideas-ukraine-asks-icann-to-disconnect-russia-from-the-internet/
[14:39]	TR Bot	Very Bad Ideas: Ukraine Asks ICANN To Disconnect Russia From The Internet | Techdirt
[14:39]	mimorek	schestowitz: Thanks
[14:40]	schestowitz-TR2	np
[14:41]	bnchs__	internet was vulnerable when you can easily cut down the wires
[14:41]	bnchs__	radio is a better alternative
[14:41]	schestowitz-TR2	one bomb alone
[14:41]	schestowitz-TR2	air0dropped even
[14:41]	schestowitz-TR2	if pout in the right place
[14:42]	schestowitz-TR2	disconnectes a whole town
[14:42]	schestowitz-TR2	but it's not advertised where exatlt
[14:42]	bnchs__	they don't say where they put the wires
[14:42]	bnchs__	you could dig in the ground
[14:42]	bnchs__	and cut internet connection for the entire country
[14:42]	schestowitz-TR2	but hey, it's not like telecom employees pass data in gulag drive and aws and stuff ^_^
[14:43]	bnchs__	i could use ham radio
[14:43]	bnchs__	but HAM radio license here is only given by ANRT and they're absolutely strict
[14:45]	psydroid2	proprietary video games are just propaganda for hardware and software vendors as well as political tools for profiling and recruitment purposes
[14:45]		*MinceR is recruited into killing demons
[14:45]	bnchs__	and also a big money vacuum cleaner
[14:46]	schestowitz-TR2	numbing mnds
[14:46]	bnchs__	hl recruited me into killing the US military
[14:47]	MinceR	nice
[14:47]	MinceR	wolfenstein 3d recruited me into killing nazis
[14:48]	bnchs__	what if that game was made during the nazi germany era
[14:48]	bnchs__	would it be considered propaganda
[14:48]	activelow	it's war and hate propaganda, this game
[14:49]	MinceR	yeah, poor nazis are being given a bad rep
[14:49]	MinceR	it's outrageous
[14:49]	MinceR	so it seems like it's a point of pride to be a nazi
[14:49]	MinceR	but at the same time, if you call a nazi a nazi, they get outraged
[14:52]	bnchs__	those were the good games, where you get weapons by progressing further in the game
[14:52]	bnchs__	rather by paying real money
[14:53]	mimorek	That was really weird you know. I'm watching reports on the news all day and then someone enters a chatroom and asks for that.
[14:54]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2022/03/03/from-ukraine-with-love/
[14:54]	TR Bot	 Message to LibrePlanet (From Ukraine) Censored But Not Ignored | Techrights
[14:54]	schestowitz	FSF/GNU suppress messages from Ukraine
[14:54]	bnchs__	i hope they don't reject users from russia
[14:54]	schestowitz	don't ask me why, but I can guess
[14:54]	mimorek	schestowitz: wtf?
[14:54]	schestowitz	they won't want the IRC channels and mailing lists becoming political battlegrounds
[14:55]	schestowitz	as that would distract from core issues like software freedom
[14:55]	MinceR	or ibm/deadrat supports putler
[14:55]	MinceR	wouldn't be a big stretch for them
[14:55]	MinceR	they supported hitler too
[14:55]	schestowitz	wait
[14:55]	schestowitz	ibm supported ALL sides
[14:55]	schestowitz	and profited from all
[14:55]	bnchs__	schestowitz, yes
[14:55]	schestowitz	thomas watson jr. worked for the soviets
[14:56]	psydroid2	ibm supported its own side
[14:56]	bnchs__	they removed it from the mailing list because it would be a flamewar
[14:56]	mimorek	I've read that post
[14:56]	schestowitz	before he became IBM's chief
[14:56]	MinceR	the only thing they didn't support is _not_ exterminating jews
[14:56]	schestowitz	he flew supplies to Stalin
[14:56]	MinceR	the "soviets" worked with the nazis
[14:56]	MinceR	and then we're supposed to believe they're the great saviors
[14:56]	mimorek	I didn't think it would stretch that far.
[14:56]	MinceR	the only ones who can save us from the nazis
[14:57]	MinceR	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact
[14:57]	TR Bot	 MolotovRibbentrop Pact - Wikipedia
[14:57]	schestowitz	mimorek: this channel has been like this for over a week
[14:57]	schestowitz	it wasn't like this before
[14:57]	MinceR	meanwhile putler can't even decide whether he'd rather be a nazi or a stalinist
[14:57]	mimorek	"I just found it strange that FSF doesn't have a "disaster response" page with some good software listed, so I asked in the channel."
[14:57]	mimorek	Is what he said
[14:57]	MinceR	his most loyal servant, viktor orban, already decided to be both
[14:58]	schestowitz	mimorek: it might be complicated
[14:58]	mimorek	<schestowitz> mimorek: this channel has been like this for over a week >> What do you mean?
[14:58]	bnchs__	mimorek, well any "disaster response" software would require hardware as well
[14:58]	schestowitz	would be associated with "taking a side"
[14:58]	schestowitz	ir's bad enough RMS agreed to go on Russia Today
[14:58]	mimorek	bnchs__: They have computers and phones
[14:58]	schestowitz	I too was invited but declined
[14:58]	bnchs__	mimorek, special hardware
[14:58]	bnchs__	not ethernet or wired shit
[14:59]	bnchs__	they're easily vulnerable, but radio or something (you can reuse WiFi chips or modems as radios)
[14:59]	schestowitz	bnchs__: even without The Internet you can connect;l
[14:59]	schestowitz	like a whole neighbourhood enabling a wifi mesh
[14:59]	schestowitz	and then some online desposits of info
[14:59]	bnchs__	yes
[14:59]	schestowitz	such as offline wikipedia and maps
● Mar 04
[15:00]	bnchs__	assuming there isn't gonna be a EMP blast
[15:00]	mimorek	schestowitz: Invited for what?
[15:00]	bnchs__	to rid of your garbage
[15:00]	schestowitz	the problem is that off-the-shelf gear is geared towards entralisation
[15:00]	schestowitz	with things like DNS hard-wired to Gulag IPs
[15:00]	schestowitz	8.8.8.8 and 4.4.4.4 or somethinmg
[15:00]	schestowitz	cannot remember which one was clownflare
[15:00]	bnchs__	yes
[15:01]	bnchs__	what will be the wifi mesh's DNS
[15:01]	bnchs__	also some routers have locked down admin interface
[15:01]	schestowitz	you could set up a dhcp server for a building block
[15:01]	schestowitz	and then dns also
[15:01]	schestowitz	a raspi can serve the whole building
[15:01]	bnchs__	you can set up a router to forward an existing wifi ssid
[15:02]	bnchs__	only if that router isn't locked down by your ISP or it's garbage
[15:02]	schestowitz	you can use openwrt
[15:02]	schestowitz	the routers we have support that
[15:02]	schestowitz	I have not tried yet, but have saved the instructions
[15:03]	schestowitz	then you don't even need to plug it into the wall
[15:03]	schestowitz	you can connect to other peers
[15:03]	schestowitz	the PCs also
[15:03]	schestowitz	but the routers are signal amplifiers
[15:03]	bnchs__	yes
[15:04]	bnchs__	thats a good plan
[15:04]	bnchs__	but openwrt doesn't support my routers
[15:04]	schestowitz	you can install it on a PC I think
[15:04]	bnchs__	i wish there was good instructions for porting it
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[15:05]	bnchs__	schestowitz, yes with a wifi chip that has a free firmware
[15:05]	schestowitz	i'm no expert
[15:05]	schestowitz	I lack experience even installing openwrt
[15:06]	schestowitz	I follow their wiki for every edit 
[15:06]	schestowitz	but I cannot do an article on the topic, I just don't know enough
[15:06]	bnchs__	i have shitty chinese routers
[15:06]	bnchs__	and i haven't tried porting it because the instructions for porting isn't very clear
[15:06]	schestowitz	I remember ioerror helping egyptians online bypass their Internet woes when mubarak was outsted
[15:06]	schestowitz	they used modems a lot
[15:06]	schestowitz	phone lines
[15:07]	bnchs__	i found a telnet shell on my router and a vulnerability that let me access the Busybox shell
[15:07]	MinceR	(cat) https://ircz.de/p/140114102
[15:07]	TR Bot	 IRCZ makes your life worth living http://i.imgur.com/IwdqBrm.jpg created on 2014-01-14 23:41:45.358137
[15:07]	bnchs__	"ps && /bin/sh"
[15:07]	bnchs__	no input sanitizing
[15:07]	MinceR	:)
[15:09]	bnchs__	don't trust china with their routers or their cameras
[15:09]	TR News	#intel releases #CloudHypervisor 22.0 but as usual it releases it to #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware because of the coup inside Intel. Details of what happened in these leaks: http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks
[15:09]	TR Bot	 Intel leaks - Techrights
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[15:11]	mimorek	<schestowitz> I remember ioerror helping egyptians online bypass their Internet woes when mubarak was outsted
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[15:11]	mimorek	It's like: you know it can be done, but...
[15:11]	TR News	#microsoft #github #monopoly isn't only beneficial to Microsoft. It's beneficial to every company to which SOFTWARE FREEDOM is a greater threat than Microsoft is. I'm looking at you, #gulag and racist #ibm ... among others such as Intel
[15:12]	schestowitz-TR2	not many people know the craft anymore
[15:12]	bnchs__	should you really file patents now
[15:12]	schestowitz-TR2	like teaching people in Bangladesh how to use a sewing machine instead of modern machines
[15:12]	bnchs__	patents are a mistake, knowledge should be free
[15:12]	mimorek	I'm not that tech savvy myself. Just like interested.
[15:13]	schestowitz-TR2	one person can set up 100 machines
[15:13]	schestowitz-TR2	and one person can make 100 meals
[15:13]	bnchs__	it's like internet archive putting DRM in ebooks (because of the physical limitations of having limited copies of a book HAS TO BE BROUGHT BACK DIGITALLY, nobody asked for it)
[15:13]	schestowitz-TR2	but you need that one person who can reflash routers and PCs
[15:14]	schestowitz	https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux-ddr5-6000&num=1
[15:14]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux-ddr5-6000&num=1
[15:14]	TR Bot	Memory Performance On Linux, Scaling From DDR5 3000 to 6000 MT/s Review - Phoronix
[15:14]	schestowitz	benchmark?
[15:14]	schestowitz	or gift?
[15:14]	schestowitz	"If you enjoyed this article consider joining Phoronix Premium to view this site ad-free, multi-page articles on a single page, and other benefits. PayPal tips are also graciously accepted. Thanks for your support."
[15:14]	schestowitz	Tips :-)
[15:14]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/phoronix-went-too-far/
[15:14]	TR Bot	 When Blogs Become Marketing and Benchmarks Become Product Promotions | Techrights
[15:14]	mimorek	right
[15:14]	schestowitz	it's like the guardian asking for donations
[15:14]	bnchs__	i think you had enough tips
[15:15]	bnchs__	NO I NEED MOAR!!!
[15:15]	schestowitz	while bagging money from gates foundation, ford foundation, and rockerfeller foundation
[15:15]	schestowitz	or NPR
[15:15]	schestowitz	the "listener-supported programme"
[15:15]	bnchs__	wtf is MT
[15:15]	psydroid2	AMD and Intel PayPal tips most welcome!
[15:15]	schestowitz	brough to you by funding from bill gates AND Microsoft
[15:16]	bnchs__	i think terabytes per second is a better unit
[15:16]	schestowitz	psydroid2: real money welcome
[15:16]	psydroid2	Pat Gelsinger is my pal!
[15:16]	schestowitz	a contain of CPUs might do too
[15:16]	bnchs__	MT isn't even explained in the article
[15:16]	psydroid2	Lisa Su is my other pal!
[15:16]	schestowitz	ebay converts these
[15:16]	psydroid2	they are my PayPals!
[15:17]	schestowitz	Intel/Microsoft https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Cloud-Hypervisor-22.0
[15:17]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Cloud-Hypervisor-22.0
[15:17]	TR Bot	22.0 Released With New Features For This Open-Source VMM - Phoronix
[15:17]	schestowitz	https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-New-Firmware-Blobs-IP
[15:17]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-New-Firmware-Blobs-IP
[15:17]	TR Bot	AMD Radeon Firmware Published For Upcoming GPUs - Phoronix
[15:17]	schestowitz	AMD
[15:17]	schestowitz	not a day goes by..
[15:17]	MinceR	https://de.catbox.moe/0zvioi.png
[15:17]	TR Bot	connect to de.catbox.moe:443; Network is unreachable ( status 0 @ https://de.catbox.moe/0zvioi.png )
[15:17]	bnchs__	cloud
[15:17]	schestowitz	scroll down
[15:17]	schestowitz	that article is based on some commit
[15:17]	schestowitz	some are based on some sole message
[15:18]	schestowitz	no idea how he picks a handful out of 1000 (almost) messages per day
[15:18]	schestowitz	maybe depends on the gifts
[15:18]	schestowitz	bnchs__: it's "out there"
[15:18]	bnchs__	yes
[15:18]	schestowitz	when it rains, ir pours
[15:18]	bnchs__	you will not own your computer
[15:18]	schestowitz	it's "up there" in github
[15:18]	schestowitz	on Microsoft servers
[15:18]	bnchs__	but don't worry it's "open source"
[15:18]	schestowitz	managed by NSA veterans
[15:18]	bnchs__	only buildable in our servers
[15:19]	schestowitz	trust this hypervisor
[15:19]	bnchs__	i mean "cloud"
[15:19]	schestowitz	people from the NSA make sure it is safe
[15:20]	schestowitz	MinceR: daylight at midnight
[15:20]	schestowitz	that's coming before the sound and the force
[15:20]	schestowitz	enough time to say "jesus here I come!"
[15:21]	schestowitz	MinceR: enough time for Putin to remove his dentures
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[15:22]	MinceR	lol
[15:23]	bnchs__	wait a minute
[15:23]	bnchs__	something's wrong here
[15:23]	schestowitz-TR2	no
[15:23]	schestowitz-TR2	minutes is too long
[15:23]	schestowitz-TR2	or even a minute
[15:24]	schestowitz-TR2	speed of light minus the other
[15:24]	schestowitz-TR2	depends on distance
[15:24]	bnchs__	my HDD is clicking
[15:24]	schestowitz-TR2	and megatonnage
[15:24]	mimorek	o oh
[15:24]	schestowitz-TR2	bad drive?
[15:24]	schestowitz-TR2	stay on ram, bro!
[15:25]	bnchs__	no it was just some clock
[15:25]	schestowitz-TR2	must be quite some clock
[15:25]	schestowitz-TR2	or magnetic drive makes the same sounds
[15:26]	bnchs__	no my hdd is fine
[15:26]	TR News	#debian based #EndlessOS 4.0.3 is released now https://endlessos.com/
[15:26]	TR Bot	 Endless OS | Endless Computers
[15:26]	schestowitz-TR2	a reminder to make backups maybe
[15:27]	bnchs__	i was just joking abou the clicks
[15:28]	schestowitz-TR2	oh, i see...
[15:28]	schestowitz-TR2	in reality, the nukeflash gives you time to take cover
[15:28]	schestowitz-TR2	if you are aware of the prospect of being struck
[15:29]	schestowitz-TR2	and you can go under some table or bed
[15:29]	bnchs__	i get bored these days
[15:29]	bnchs__	too much discussion about war
[15:29]	schestowitz-TR2	maybe soon they'll send out flyers
[15:29]	schestowitz-TR2	to distract us from our failure with covidf
[15:29]	schestowitz-TR2	or the dying economy
[15:30]	TR News	"The ext4 filesystem with journal enabled, will write frequently to a flash stick, shortening its life. EasyOS image file has ext4 working-partition. Originally, it had the journal disabled; however, sometime early in 2020 I enabled the journal." https://bkhome.org/news/202203/ext4-with-or-without-journal-on-flash-stick.html
[15:30]	TR Bot	 Ext4 with or without journal on flash stick
[15:31]	bnchs__	  lol
[15:31]	TR News	#openwashing with #microsoft "Github, but they did so in a weird way since they are just updating a zip file with all datasheet for CH34x chips as they get released, instead of having a directory, and commit new files or revision as they come by." https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/03/04/wch-ch348-8-port-usb-to-serial-chip-with-up-to-48-gpios/
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[15:31]	TR Bot	 WCH CH348 is an 8-port USB to serial chip with up to 48 GPIOs - CNX Software
[15:33]	TR News	#github is often just a platform for people who cannot install #git and aren't coders but posers who fake and dump files. It is in effect an #openwashing platform for phonies and malicious corporations. Look who runs it... http://techrights.org/2021/12/08/balabhadra-alex-graveley-arrest-warrant-and-affidavit/
[15:33]	TR Bot	 [Teaser] Meet Microsofts Chief Architect of GitHub Copilot, Balabhadra (Alex) Graveley (Updated) | Techrights
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[15:36]	schestowitz-TR2	I am going to hack on the ipfs bot and news bot for a bit
[15:36]	schestowitz-TR2	expect weirdness
[15:47]	MinceR	https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/afternoon-meme-dump-23-memes-7.jpg
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[15:52]	schestowitz-TR2	almost aced it in fist pass
[15:52]	schestowitz-TR2	need to remove unicode BS
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[16:05]	TR News	How the EPO is Like Putins Russia | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/04/putinist-patent-office/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/04/putinist-patent-office/
[16:05]	TR Bot	 How the EPO is Like Putins Russia | Techrights
[16:09]	TR News	#Tumbleweed Has Six Snapshots, Leap Gets Quarterly Respin - openSUSE News Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162146 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[16:09]	TR Bot	 Tumbleweed Has Six Snapshots, Leap Gets Quarterly Respin - openSUSE News | Tux Machines
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[16:10]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 25.06 k/sec., IPFS upstream 68.61 average k/sec., average swarm size 273.94
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[16:12]	TR News	Goodbye, #twitter and #joindiaspora ... thanks for all the fish. Follow me directly using RSS feeds. Techrights: http://techrights.org/feed/ personal: http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/feed/
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[16:22]	mimorek	I've taken my first steps on Gemini a few days ago btw.
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[16:29]	TR News	#Meet System Monitoring Center, a Powerful System Performance and Usage Monitoring Tool Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162147 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[16:29]	TR Bot	 Meet System Monitoring Center, a Powerful System Performance and Usage Monitoring Tool | Tux Machines
[16:30]	schestowitz	mimorek: very good!
[16:30]	schestowitz	I've just removed all the social control media code
[16:30]	mimorek	I think so too
[16:30]	schestowitz	testing, will push to git shortly
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[16:30]	schestowitz	I'll remove all the hashtag crap
[16:31]	schestowitz	we don't need hashtags anymore
[16:31]	schestowitz	this is 2022, this is SPARTA!
[16:31]	schestowitz	not 2010
[16:31]	SomeH4x0r	2010 is better
[16:31]	SomeH4x0r	shit is getting worse over time
[16:31]	mimorek	wtf
[16:31]	mimorek	?
[16:31]	SomeH4x0r	like big corporations
[16:32]	MinceR	2000 is better than 2010
[16:32]	SomeH4x0r	yes
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[16:33]	MinceR	but 12 million BCE was better than any of those
[16:33]	SomeH4x0r	yes
[16:35]	bnchs	gemini means less VRAM
[16:35]	bnchs	from imags
[16:36]	bnchs	there's literally no images
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[16:36]	mimorek	VRAM?
[16:36]	bnchs	video memory
[16:36]	mimorek	ah
[16:36]	bnchs	less textures to allocate (other than font)
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[16:37]	mimorek	It's like more real
[16:37]	mimorek	If that makes sense
[16:38]	mimorek	I've started using lynx for http browsing more often
[16:38]	MinceR	(cat) https://ircz.de/p/14011496
[16:38]	TR Bot	 IRCZ makes your life worth living http://i.imgur.com/YS3Ibvk.jpg created on 2014-01-14 21:23:51.241363
[16:39]	mimorek	scary...
[16:39]	MinceR	scary kitten?
[16:40]	mimorek	For a second yeah
[16:40]	mimorek	;)
[16:40]	bnchs	its means that websites in gemini
[16:40]	mimorek	staring at me
[16:40]	MinceR	:)
[16:40]	bnchs	will be more like books
[16:40]	bnchs	than a magazine
[16:40]	XRevan86	https://poorlydrawnlines.com/comic/life-crisis/
[16:40]	TR Bot	connection reset by peer ( status 0 @ https://poorlydrawnlines.com/comic/life-crisis/ )
[16:42]	bnchs	lol what a good website
[16:42]	bnchs	TCP reset all crawlers
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[17:15]	MinceR	https://www.change.org/p/cloudflare-cloudflare-please-stop-serving-russian-sites
[17:15]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: change.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.change.org/p/cloudflare-cloudflare-please-stop-serving-russian-sites
[17:15]	TR Bot	Cloudflare: please stop serving russian sites Change.org
[17:16]	schestowitz	tcp reset
[17:16]	schestowitz	brutal
[17:17]	schestowitz	they are very energy-conservative :-)
[17:17]	schestowitz	must be the price of electricity :-)
[17:17]	MinceR	"green"
[17:17]	schestowitz	MinceR show us yo' green caaar
[17:18]	MinceR	like that dodge challenger srt
[17:18]	MinceR	https://i.redd.it/9b31rtqzxtgz.jpg
[17:18]	schestowitz	shooot, that was faaast
[17:18]	XRevan86	MinceR: I think that Cloudflare would damage their image more if they support this.
[17:18]	MinceR	indeed
[17:18]	MinceR	that's why i support this
[17:18]	XRevan86	MinceR: Sneaky.
[17:19]	mimorek	Pornhub is among the list of supporting companies of that petition.
[17:20]	schestowitz	going to record something about my likely last tweet
[17:20]	schestowitz	(I might run that account as a bot some time in the future)
[17:23]	MinceR	https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/afternoon-meme-dump-23-memes-14.jpg
[17:23]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/afternoon-meme-dump-23-memes-14.jpg
[17:24]	mimorek	I get the feeling of the iron curtain. With all russian companies, persons everything being "erased".
[17:24]	XRevan86	I feel as if I live in PRC and I daily discuss what happened at the Tiananmen Square in 1989.
[17:24]	MinceR	well, at least it seems we can move the border to the east
[17:25]	mimorek	PRC?
[17:25]	MinceR	"people's" "republic" of china
[17:25]	mimorek	ah
[17:25]	MinceR	also known as red china or west taiwan
[17:25]	MinceR	oops
[17:25]	MinceR	ah, yes, west taiwan
[17:26]	mimorek	XRevan86: I don't get it.
[17:26]	mimorek	sorry
[17:26]	XRevan86	mimorek: Ah, nave and innocent
[17:27]	mimorek	:/
[17:30]	mimorek	XRevan86: Do you live in the PRC?
[17:31]	XRevan86	mimorek: Only figuratively.
[17:31]	XRevan86	mimorek: Brace yourself: I live in Russia.
[17:31]	mimorek	Ok. 
[17:31]	schestowitz	nothing wrong with it
[17:32]		*psydroid2 lives in DKN
[17:32]	mimorek	That sucks. Russia literally, China figuratively...
[17:32]	schestowitz	I like in UKANIA
[17:32]	mimorek	man...
[17:32]	MinceR	what's DKN?
[17:32]	schestowitz	korne
[17:33]	schestowitz	krone
[17:33]	psydroid2	Democratic Kingdom of the Netherlands
[17:33]	mimorek	denmark
[17:33]	psydroid2	:)
[17:33]	MinceR	:)
[17:33]	mimorek	Ik ook
[17:34]	psydroid2	ah, dat wist ik niet
[17:34]	mimorek	:)
[17:34]	mimorek	de DKN. Zal em onthouden.
[17:35]	MinceR	fgsfds
[17:35]	mimorek	haha
[17:36]	kingoffrance	i think what evan meant was along the lines of:  first rule of Tiananmen Square club is we don't talk about Tiananmen Square club
[17:40]	mimorek	I see...
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● Mar 04
[18:03]	schestowitz	psydroid2: stop DKN around
[18:07]	MinceR	https://files.catbox.moe/4nl71b.jpg
[18:07]	TR Bot	connect to files.catbox.moe:443; Network is unreachable ( status 0 @ https://files.catbox.moe/4nl71b.jpg )
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[18:16]	TR News	Spamnil and co are now running PR spam for outsiders too, "Emily Nicholls" in this case https://www.tfir.io/google-led-knative-is-accepted-as-a-cncf-incubating-project/
[18:16]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: tfir.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.tfir.io/google-led-knative-is-accepted-as-a-cncf-incubating-project/
[18:16]	TR Bot	 Google-Led Knative Is Accepted As A CNCF Incubating Project - TFiR: Interviews, News & Analysis by Swapnil Bhartiya
[18:17]	MinceR	https://nitter.net/funkwit/status/1499279761842995200
[18:17]	TR Bot	 Paul Cowan (@funkwit): "Moscow journalism class: "Class, when may headline use word 'tragedy'?" "A bus crash?" "No! That's 'accident'" "Building collapse?" "No, that's 'great loss'" "President Putin poisoned with Novichok?" "Yes! Then, use 'tragedy'! Why?" "Well it's no accident and no great loss"" | nitter
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[18:18]	TR News	Richard Stallmans First Public Talk (Delivered in Person) in Years Was Delivered in Ukraine Last Summer http://techrights.org/2021/09/21/rms-ukraine-talk/
[18:18]	TR Bot	 Richard Stallmans First Public Talk (Delivered in Person) in Years, Now With a Free Format | Techrights
[18:19]	TR News	DXVK 1.10 Adds More Improvements for God of War, GTA IV, Quantum Break, and Other Games Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162148
[18:19]	TR Bot	 DXVK 1.10 Adds More Improvements for God of War, GTA IV, Quantum Break, and Other Games | Tux Machines
[18:25]	TR News	9 of the Best Email Clients for Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162149
[18:25]	TR Bot	 9 of the Best Email Clients for Linux | Tux Machines
[18:26]	schestowitz	MinceR: sorry for the poison
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[18:26]	schestowitz	it got diluted
[18:26]	schestowitz	inside putin's body
[18:26]	MinceR	:>
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[18:33]	TR News	DXVK v1.10 and VKD3D-Proton v2.6 out improving Proton for Linux and Steam Deck http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162148#comment-32970
[18:33]	TR Bot	 DXVK 1.10 Adds More Improvements for God of War, GTA IV, Quantum Break, and Other Games | Tux Machines
[18:34]	TR News	Valve open sources #SteamOS Devkit Client for #SteamDeck | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/valve-open-sources-steamos-devkit-client-for-steam-deck
[18:34]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/valve-open-sources-steamos-devkit-client-for-steam-deck
[18:34]	TR Bot	open sources SteamOS Devkit Client for Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux
[18:44]	TR News	"XCOM 2 developer Firaxis Games has announced that the multiplayer modes are going to be shut down, if you're using the Windows version that is." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/xcom-2s-multiplayer-being-removed-but-will-still-work-on-linux-and-steam-deck/
[18:44]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/xcom-2s-multiplayer-being-removed-but-will-still-work-on-linux-and-steam-deck/
[18:44]	TR Bot	2's multiplayer being removed but will still work on Linux and Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux
[18:45]	SomeH4x0r	DO NOT trust stuff which requires central servers
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[18:52]	bnchs	is joindiaspora dead now
[18:53]	MinceR	(cat) (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slLgS6xJtgI
[18:53]	TR Bot	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=slLgS6xJtgI
[18:53]	TR Bot	yewtu.be | Guy Makes His Cat A Tiny Collar Camera To See What He's Up To Outside | The Dodo Cat Crazy - Invidious
[18:53]	bnchs	well
[18:53]	MinceR	it's a hole in the ground.
[18:53]	bnchs	you've met with a terrible fate, haven't you
[18:54]	MinceR	yes, i was born in a solar system infested with humans
[18:54]	bnchs	me too
[18:54]	bnchs	humans look up to material wealth instead of through it
[18:57]	bnchs	what if you can live the bare minimum to survive
[18:57]	bnchs	instead of luxury houses and shit
[18:58]	MinceR	doesn't sound appealing
● Mar 04
[19:00]	bnchs	it doesn't provide enough money for them
[19:00]	bnchs	a laptop from 2012 can last for 40 years and even more, as long as the OSes remain optimized
[19:01]	bnchs	thats not the case for windows, but the case for many GNU/Linux distributions
[19:02]	MinceR	the "modern" web won't run on it though
[19:02]	MinceR	and it already has hardware backdoors
[19:02]	SomeH4x0r	give up on updates?
[19:03]	SomeH4x0r	stuff is often only getting worse over time
[19:03]	bnchs	yes
[19:03]	MinceR	life is more difficult if you can't access services over the web (banking, online payment, whatever)
[19:04]	bnchs	windows uses artificial obsolescence, to make you buy more hardware
[19:04]	bnchs	they'll bloat up their OS unoptimized as shit
[19:04]	bnchs	and compensate it for the requirements
[19:04]	schestowitz	https://nitter.eu/stautistic/status/1499760832577560578?s=21
[19:04]	TR Bot	 mitchel lewis (@stautistic): "#Microsoft could end the war if they suspended services until russia vacated #ukraine. Too much of their economy depends on Microsoft services, specifically Azure AD, to operate. It would be an economic death blow that would only be rivaled by killing their power grid." | nitter
[19:04]	MinceR	i avoid windows
[19:04]	MinceR	lol @ tweet
[19:04]	MinceR	yeah, like putler cares about that
[19:05]	MinceR	still, MICROS~1 should suspend "services" in russia
[19:05]	bnchs	schestowitz, lol microsoft suspends services for russians
[19:05]	bnchs	it will make russians independent from microsoft
[19:05]	bnchs	and will solve absolutely nothing
[19:05]	bnchs	more GNU/Linux users for us
[19:06]	MinceR	it's a win for the rest of the world if it harms russia or it harms MICROS~1 or both
[19:07]	bnchs	well yeah
[19:07]	bnchs	i wish microsoft suspended service in morocco
[19:07]	bnchs	fuck IIS
[19:09]	bnchs	especially when moroccan IT teachers unironically think that openoffice is made by apple
[19:09]	bnchs	and that it's not free
[19:09]	MinceR	lol
[19:09]	MinceR	https://www.change.org/p/apple-google-and-microsoft-shutting-russia-down
[19:09]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: change.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.change.org/p/apple-google-and-microsoft-shutting-russia-down
[19:10]	TR Bot	Apple, Google and Microsoft shutting Russia down Change.org
[19:14]	kingoffrance	Can you imagine a country where a single company can access their emails or log in to their computers, phones, SaaS connected to SSO? TV channels, banks, factories - the whole country would shut down!         ; on one hand, it is perhaps a call for "corporate responsibility".  on the other hand, it could be used against anyone;     really, i guess it shows that people dont even bother with governments, go straight to the actual power
[19:15]	kingoffrance	you no longer petition the king, or the gov, just petition the businesses
[19:15]	MinceR	:>
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[19:16]	kingoffrance	or, another way to say that: just assume corporations are outside of the law anyways, and can do such a thing without consulting with "government"
[19:16]	bnchs	lol
[19:16]	bnchs	just shutdown everything for russia
[19:16]	bnchs	if russia has balls, they can host their own
[19:16]		*MinceR petitions the megacorporations to glass russia
[19:16]	bnchs	it will only make them STRONG
[19:16]	bnchs	and INDEPENDENT
[19:17]	bnchs	unlike us
[19:17]	bnchs	they will no longer rely on the tech that binds the other countries
[19:18]	kingoffrance	this is actually in "ibm and the holocaust".  hitler, at least later, didnt want to be stuck with ibm, but they were trying to "clone" (make compatible) punch cards IIRC, were in a hurry...
[19:19]	kingoffrance	didnt want any profits leaving the homeland either
[19:19]	kingoffrance	they had too much that relied on ibm though, to just switch overnight
[19:19]	TR News	"I joined Mozilla as a Telemetry engineer." Mozilla hired me to turn Firefox into spyware. https://fnordig.de/2022/03/04/four-year-moziversary/
[19:19]	TR Bot	 Four-year Moziversary
[19:20]	kingoffrance	in a way, IIRC the "shell" name, served to both "protect" IBM from trading with wrong person, and likewise could tell the homeland it was not "foreign"
[19:20]	kingoffrance	it really was, but i believe the cover worked both ways
[19:21]	TR News	Barely anyone even uses this Vista 11 junk https://www.ghacks.net/2022/03/04/rufus-3-18-adds-support-for-windows-11-inplace-upgrade-bypasses/ see http://techrights.org/2022/01/26/microsoft-delighted-by-failure/
[19:21]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: ghacks.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.ghacks.net/2022/03/04/rufus-3-18-adds-support-for-windows-11-inplace-upgrade-bypasses/
[19:21]	TR Bot	 Rufus 3.18: bypass Windows 11 system requirements during Inplace upgrades - gHacks Tech News
[19:21]	TR Bot	 Microsoft Delighted by Windows 11 (Vista 11) Usage, Which is Only 1% Three Months After Official Launch and Six Months After Release Online | Techrights
[19:21]	bnchs	lol
[19:21]	bnchs	when you have a "bypass windows 11 system requirements" in a usb writer program
[19:21]	bnchs	that's when you know your OS is too shit
[19:21]	bnchs	and thats why you only have 1%
[19:22]	TR News	When news is so slow that all they can post is "meta" 'articles' https://www.itprotoday.com/linux/top-10-articles-about-linux-february-2022
[19:22]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: itprotoday.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.itprotoday.com/linux/top-10-articles-about-linux-february-2022
[19:22]	TR Bot	 Top 10 Articles About Linux: February 2022 | ITPro Today: IT News, How-Tos, Trends, Case Studies, Career Tips, More
[19:22]	MinceR	classic suit "have it both ways" maneuver
[19:22]	bnchs	microsoft is asking for too much to "use" it's own
[19:22]	bnchs	s/own/OS
[19:23]	TR News	PC Gaming Using GNU/Linux As Your OS Heres What You Need to Know - TREND OCEANS https://trendoceans.com/pc-gaming-using-linux-as-your-os-heres-what-you-need-to-know/
[19:23]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: trendoceans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://trendoceans.com/pc-gaming-using-linux-as-your-os-heres-what-you-need-to-know/
[19:23]	TR Bot	 PC Gaming Using Linux As Your OS Here's What You Need to Know - TREND OCEANS
[19:23]	bnchs	gnu/linux can run in a computer found from a dumpster, while windows can't run in a 2016 computer
[19:23]	MinceR	MICROS~1 and ibm are working on fixing that
[19:24]	bnchs	microsoft should just commit group sudoku
[19:24]	MinceR	so that there won't be any GNU and Linux won't run on a 2016 computer either
[19:26]	MinceR	https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/funny-picures-2-2-22-7.jpg
[19:26]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/funny-picures-2-2-22-7.jpg
[19:27]	bnchs	it's dumb consumerism
[19:27]	bnchs	you could find a computer in the middle of a desert, possibly cursed by it's former user
[19:27]	bnchs	and it would work with GNU/Linux
[19:27]	TR News	Nothing to be celebrated here if one understands what Gartner actually is https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/03/04/arduino-is-among-the-top-vendors-in-gartners-latest-digital-business-report/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gartner_Group
[19:27]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: arduino.cc | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/03/04/arduino-is-among-the-top-vendors-in-gartners-latest-digital-business-report/
[19:28]	TR Bot	 Arduino is among the top vendors in Gartners latest digital business report | Arduino Blog
[19:28]	TR Bot	 Gartner Group - Techrights
[19:28]	bnchs	and it would use it every day
[19:28]	TR News	Just Perfection Extension Now Supports GNOME 42 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162150
[19:28]	TR Bot	 Just Perfection Extension Now Supports GNOME 42 | Tux Machines
[19:28]	TR News	Should Fedora banish Russians as they banished Iranians? Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162151
[19:28]	TR Bot	 Should Fedora banish Russians as they banished Iranians? | Tux Machines
[19:28]	SomeH4x0r	fuck the "communities"
[19:28]	SomeH4x0r	they are not real
[19:29]	SomeH4x0r	hope it results in a World War III
[19:29]	TR News	SUSEis shilling SAP proprietary trash again https://www.suse.com/c/the-public-cloud-is-ideal-for-your-sap-s-4hana-environment-heres-why/ this is today's SUSE, run by SAPpers: http://techrights.org/2011/09/16/linux-tax-at-sap/
[19:29]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: suse.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.suse.com/c/the-public-cloud-is-ideal-for-your-sap-s-4hana-environment-heres-why/
[19:29]	TR Bot	public cloud is ideal for your SAP S/4HANA environment. Heres why. | SUSE Communities
[19:29]	TR Bot	 SAP Offers Lip Service to Red Hat But Continues to Pay Microsoft for GNU/Linux, Thanks to SUSE | Techrights
[19:29]	schestowitz-TR2	SomeH4x0r: the communities are not faker
[19:29]	schestowitz-TR2	Fedora is not a communi9ty
[19:29]	schestowitz-TR2	it is IBM 
[19:29]	schestowitz-TR2	a vicious racist company
[19:30]	schestowitz-TR2	which triple-dipped in WW3
[19:30]	schestowitz-TR2	Stalin, Hitler, and USA
[19:30]	schestowitz-TR2	they don't know what community means
[19:37]	psydroid2	they know all about the elite and the commoners
[19:38]	TR News	Quite Likely My Last Tweet (Almost My Millionth Tweet, With a Rounding Error) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/04/twitter-is-done/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/04/twitter-is-done/
[19:38]	TR Bot	 Quite Likely My Last Tweet (Almost My Millionth Tweet, With a Rounding Error) | Techrights
[19:39]	TR News	TheServerHost posted AT LEAST 3 spammy press releases such as this in the past 4 days. They just change the name of the location and repeat. This is Webspam. https://www.einnews.com/pr_news/564663845/theserverhost-launched-cheapest-italy-milan-rome-vps-server-hosting-plans-offering-linux-and-windows-os
[19:40]	TR News	"Cloud Computing is all the rage these days - but what happens when a company moves to the cloud to quickly? While cloud computing can be a very rewarding technology, it can also get out of hand quite quickly." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=zuRwJQUY6AA
[19:41]	TR Bot	 TheServerHost Launched Cheapest Italy, Milan, Rome VPS Server Hosting Plans offering Linux and Windows OS - EIN Presswire
[19:41]	TR Bot	 Enterprise Linux Security Episode 20 - Cloud Governance - Invidious
[19:41]	bnchs	"cloud" is abstracting away that you're putting your private data in someone else's computer
[19:41]	bnchs	they actually think it's secure
[19:41]	TR News	This "course" is more GNU than it is "LINUX" https://www.freecodecamp.org/news/learn-the-basics-of-the-linux-operating-system/ via https://www.fosslife.org/free-crash-course-linux-fundamentals
[19:41]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: freecodecamp.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.freecodecamp.org/news/learn-the-basics-of-the-linux-operating-system/
[19:41]	TR Bot	 Learn the Basics of the Linux Operating System
[19:41]	bnchs	no way i'm using that
[19:41]	TR Bot	 Free Crash Course in Linux Fundamentals
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[19:41]	schestowitz-TR2	bnchs: exactly
[19:41]	schestowitz-TR2	it's intentional
[19:41]	schestowitz-TR2	hi techrights_guest|99
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[19:42]	TR News	Proprietary software in its full glory https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-063-01 "Exploitable remotely/low attack complexity"
[19:42]	TR Bot	 Trailer Power Line Communications (PLC) J2497 | CISA
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[19:44]	DaemonFC	https://abc7chicago.com/walgreens-theft-on-camera-brazen-robbery-san-francisco/11620326
[19:44]	TR Bot	 Photographer captures bizarre theft turned food fight at California Walgreens - ABC7 Chicago
[19:45]	DaemonFC	"The suspect then grabbed bunches of bananas and hurled them at the customer."
[19:45]	TR News	openSUSE Tumbleweed Review of the week 2022/09 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162146#comment-32971
[19:45]	TR Bot	 Tumbleweed Has Six Snapshots, Leap Gets Quarterly Respin - openSUSE News | Tux Machines
[19:46]	schestowitz-TR2	DaemonFC: you live in a banana republic
[19:46]	DaemonFC	San Francisco is just like that you know.
[19:46]	DaemonFC	Of course the guy was calm.
[19:47]	DaemonFC	They have a liberal prosecutor that doesn't charge misdemeanors anymore against black people.
[19:47]	DaemonFC	That's why there's all these train robberies and the train companies say they may just quit operating in California.
[19:47]	DaemonFC	And there's a recall election coming up against some of those prosecutors. Because electing them sounded good and then they saw what happened.
[19:48]	bnchs	america is so crazy
[19:48]	bnchs	i mean mentally crazy
[19:48]	bnchs	you guys are only humaniliating yourselves
[19:48]	DaemonFC	Walgreens opened a store in Gary, Indiana, and then closed it three months later.
[19:48]	DaemonFC	They couldn't make a profit because it was getting robbed every day.
[19:49]	DaemonFC	The only police activity you ever see in Gary is the feds or maybe the Lake County Sheriff serving warrants.
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[19:51]	DaemonFC	They had "K-Market" whatever that is, and some afro wig shops.
[19:51]	DaemonFC	And other than that, the rest of the city is rotting and being reclaimed by nature.
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[19:52]	DaemonFC	If you go through it on the South Shore Line train, you can see hundreds of houses falling over into the streets.
[19:52]	DaemonFC	The rest of Indiana isn't like that.
[19:52]	DaemonFC	No, America in total isn't "crazy".
[19:53]	DaemonFC	It's the left coast and a bunch of places where third world conditions exist because all of the whites, Asians, and even the Mexicans won't go there.
[19:53]	DaemonFC	Gary has collapsed economically. The rest of Lake County, Indiana isn't even like that.
[19:54]	MinceR	only the humans are crazy
[19:54]	MinceR	but that's true for all countries
[19:54]	DaemonFC	A few miles over in Merrillville, Schererville, or Valparaiso, it's nice.
[19:54]	DaemonFC	Really nice.
[19:54]	schestowitz-TR2	Gary is home of the Jackoon 5
[19:54]	DaemonFC	Yeah, back in the 70s it wasn't full blown shithole yet.
[19:54]	schestowitz-TR2	metal industry
[19:55]	DaemonFC	Hey, you go 2 miles over into East Chicago, Indiana, it's still okay. Bunch of Mexicans living next to the oil refinery.
[19:55]	schestowitz-TR2	metal turned into pop
[19:55]	schestowitz-TR2	then into nothing
[19:55]	DaemonFC	US Steel is still in Gary. They make more steel now than they did then, with half as many workers.
[19:55]	DaemonFC	Automation.
[19:55]	DaemonFC	But those are high skill jobs.
[19:56]	DaemonFC	So the employees are mostly white and they commute from the suburbs.
[19:56]	DaemonFC	It does almost nothing to provide employment for Gary itself. Their high schools get an F on the state's rating system.
● Mar 04
[20:01]	DaemonFC	https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/03/04/suspect-in-extremely-critical-condition-after-carjacking-woman-near-mundelein-crashing-in-volo/
[20:01]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: lakemchenryscanner.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/03/04/suspect-in-extremely-critical-condition-after-carjacking-woman-near-mundelein-crashing-in-volo/
[20:01]	TR Bot	 Suspect in 'extremely critical condition' after carjacking woman near Mundelein, crashing in Volo
[20:01]	DaemonFC	MinceR, Thank God it was a Chrysler and nothing important got damaged.
[20:01]	TR News	Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162152
[20:01]	TR Bot	 Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
[20:01]	TR News	Games: SteamOS, XCOM 2, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162153
[20:01]	TR Bot	 Games: SteamOS, XCOM 2, and More | Tux Machines
[20:01]	TR News	Programming and Hacking Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162154
[20:01]	TR Bot	 Programming and Hacking Leftovers | Tux Machines
[20:01]	TR News	Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162155
[20:02]	TR Bot	 today's leftovers | Tux Machines
[20:02]	MinceR	https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/funny-picures-2-2-22-26.jpg
[20:02]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/funny-picures-2-2-22-26.jpg
[20:02]	MinceR	:>
[20:04]	DaemonFC	MinceR, The perp got ejected from the alleged car due to not wearing its seatbelt.
[20:04]	DaemonFC	The cops found Kenosha Man unconscious and in "extremely critical condition" some dozens of feet away from the crash.
[20:05]	TR News	Links 4/3/2022: DXVK 1.10 and openSUSE Tumbleweed Updates | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/04/tumbleweed-updates/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/04/tumbleweed-updates/
[20:05]	TR Bot	 Links 4/3/2022: DXVK 1.10 and openSUSE Tumbleweed Updates | Techrights
[20:05]	schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/public
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[20:05]	schestowitz	"We're doing maintenance work on our servers. Please try again later."
[20:05]	DaemonFC	MinceR, Every time there's some major shithole with a bunch of criminals in it, I just use the shorthand "city man/woman".
[20:06]	DaemonFC	"Waukegan Woman steals car and crashes into taqueria". 
[20:06]	schestowitz-TR2	DaemonFC: back on topic, pls
[20:06]	DaemonFC	I picked up the habit from the Florida Man meme.
[20:07]	DaemonFC	It's all so crazy you can add humor by pretending all of the crazy shit is just one guy named Florida Man.
[20:07]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR2, Apple offered to match 2:1 all employee contributions to Ukraine.
[20:08]	DaemonFC	I wonder how much is left after the cost of living in that famous liberal dump on the coast.
[20:08]	TR News	Social Control Media (or social control media, to spare the capitalisation) is yesteryear's runaway train; we won't be waiting for the crash, we're moving on to what truly matters in today's Internet (and it's not a bunch of mindfarts, shower thoughts, and hashtags) Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/04/twitter-is-done/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/04/twitter-is-done/
[20:08]	TR Bot	 Quite Likely My Last Tweet (Almost My Millionth Tweet, With a Rounding Error) | Techrights
[20:08]	DaemonFC	5 years ago, I read about an Apple employee who was living in a garage and using a compost bucket for a toilet and paying $3,500 a month.
[20:08]	XRevan86	https://bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-04/white-house-considering-ban-on-russian-oil-imports-to-u-s
[20:08]	TR Bot	- Are you a robot?
[20:09]	bnchs	DaemonFC, average apple user
[20:09]	bnchs	they literally pay top dollar for a stans
[20:09]	bnchs	stand
[20:09]	DaemonFC	If you look on apartments dot com, it takes $1,500 to live in an apartment no bigger than the one I rent for $875, but with 3 other roommates. And if one violates the lease, you're all responsible for it.
[20:09]	bnchs	over more than a thousand dollars for a fucking steel stand
[20:09]	DaemonFC	They won't acknowledge it, but landlords deliberately commit arson against their own buildings in San Francisco to drive out rent controlled tenants.
[20:10]	bnchs	a thousand dollar for a stand*
[20:10]	DaemonFC	Then they get the checks from the insurance for not having rent income and for losing the building.
[20:10]	DaemonFC	Then they sit on it for 2-3 years before they fix the building to make sure the rent controlled tenant doesn't come back.
[20:10]	DaemonFC	Then they fix it and jack up the rent 500%.
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[20:10]	DaemonFC	Or more.
[20:10]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.06 k/sec., IPFS upstream 23.40 average k/sec., average swarm size 273.97
[20:11]	DaemonFC	It's called eviction by fire, and everyone knows they do it.
[20:11]	DaemonFC	But the City Council doesn't investigate landlords for it because they're being bribed.
[20:12]	DaemonFC	Apparently, arson is a huge problem in the "Tenderloin District" and none of the city supervisors can find out why.
[20:12]	DaemonFC	Fire dept stumped too. Imagine....
[20:12]	DaemonFC	<bnchs> a thousand dollar for a stand*
[20:12]	DaemonFC	Gucci has $600 case for your airpods.
[20:13]	DaemonFC	Italy carved out an exemption to the Russian sanctions so that oligarchs can keep buying Gucci.
[20:13]	bnchs	rich people spend a thousand dollar for a stand that you can probably make it yourself or pay someone to make it
[20:13]	bnchs	and save the rest of that 1k
[20:13]	DaemonFC	Yeah, "What did you do with your tax cut from Trump?".
[20:14]	TR News	Ukraine and the New Al Qaeda https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/ukraine-new-al-qaeda/
[20:14]	bnchs	you can mold that stand yourself
[20:14]	TR Bot	 Ukraine and the New Al Qaeda
[20:14]	DaemonFC	"Oh tee hee. That little thing? I spent $6,000 on a stand and some airpod cases!"
[20:14]	bnchs	3d model it and shit
[20:14]	bnchs	but thats bad
[20:14]	bnchs	and not apple-approved
[20:14]	bnchs	you gotta pay 1k for a stand
[20:15]		*psydroid2 gave his $200 Airpods that he won at an event to his mom
[20:15]	TR News	Getting Things GNOME is a Flexible ToDo list & Tasks App for Ubuntu Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162108#comment-32972
[20:15]	TR Bot	 Getting Things GNOME 0.6 Personal Productivity App Released with New CalDAV Sync Backend | Tux Machines
[20:15]	bnchs	psydroid2, you should sell that
[20:16]	psydroid2	bnchs, well, she uses them with her Android phone
[20:17]	psydroid2	it took me 2 years to figure out that you have to press the button on the charging box to pair them with your phone
[20:19]	bnchs	lol
[20:20]	DaemonFC	"Russia bans Facebook in the country"
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[20:20]	DaemonFC	Yeah, Facebook has a Tor Hidden Service.
[20:20]	DaemonFC	"In response, Meta president Nick Clegg said the company was doing everything we can to restore our services but that soon Russian users would be cut off from reliable information."
[20:20]	DaemonFC	Reliable information from Facebook?
[20:20]	TR News	This is GROSS revisionism: "Linus Torvalds was a student at the University of Helsinki in Finland. He wanted to create an academic version of Unix OS for free." That was GNU! https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/17-important-linux-interview-questions-answers
[20:20]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: linuxjournal.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/17-important-linux-interview-questions-answers
[20:20]	TR Bot	 17 Important Linux Interview Questions with Answers | Linux Journal
[20:20]	DaemonFC	They're even funnier than listening to Putin.
[20:22]	DaemonFC	https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2022/03/04/supreme-court-okays-death-penalty-boston-marathon-bomber-tsarnaev/6452778001/
[20:22]	TR Bot	 Supreme Court OKs death penalty for Boston Marathon bomber Tsarnaev
[20:22]	DaemonFC	Good.
[20:23]	DaemonFC	It's too bad he didn't get it while Trump was in office.
[20:23]	TR News	LOLOLOLOL! "The Linux operating system was invented by Finnish software engineer Linus Torvalds along with the Free Software Foundation in 1991." https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/17-important-linux-interview-questions-answers sorry, sir, your interview was a failure
[20:23]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: linuxjournal.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/17-important-linux-interview-questions-answers
[20:23]	DaemonFC	We'll have to wait until Fuck Joe Brandon is gone before we kill this son of a bitch.
[20:24]	DaemonFC	The Republicans like their odds in 2024, and I can see why.
[20:24]	DaemonFC	Pretty much everything Biden touches turns to crap. We should be over there establishing the terms of Russia's surrender in Ukraine.
[20:25]	TR News	Also referring to UNIX as "UNIX OS" is the least among the many flaws in this article. What has Linux Journal succumbed to? https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/17-important-linux-interview-questions-answers
[20:25]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: linuxjournal.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/17-important-linux-interview-questions-answers
[20:25]	MinceR	you mean, the terms of what happens to the region that used to be russia
[20:26]	MinceR	though former president Super Callous Fragile Racist Sexist Nazi Potus would have done even less
[20:26]	DaemonFC	Most likely. Ugh
[20:27]	DaemonFC	I don't suppose the Republicans will come to their senses and run Mitt Romney again so he can say "I warned President Obama that Russia was a threat, and he said the 1980s wanted their foreign policy back. Hey Joe, the 1980s called.".
[20:28]	TR News	Hey Linux Users: New Steam Deck Owners Really Need Your Help https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2022/03/04/hey-linux-users-new-steam-deck-owners-really-need-your-help/
[20:28]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: forbes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2022/03/04/hey-linux-users-new-steam-deck-owners-really-need-your-help/
[20:28]	TR Bot	 Hey Linux Users: New Steam Deck Owners Really Need Your Help
[20:28]	MinceR	it would be nice if at least one of the two parties that are allowed to win could come up with a halfway decent candidate
[20:28]	MinceR	but that's probably too much to ask for
[20:29]	XRevan86	"Flawed Democracy"
[20:29]	MinceR	which isn't flawed?
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[20:31]	DaemonFC	XRevan86, On banning Russian oil, it would be best if Biden did that now by executive order.
[20:31]	DaemonFC	Congress is taking up bills to do it themselves, and there's enough support that it might even pass by unanimous consent or a voice vote.
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[20:32]	DaemonFC	Then it will be the law and Biden won't be able to stop it later.
[20:32]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162156
[20:32]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[20:32]	TR News	Purisms Librem 5 Linux smartphone costs $1299 after the latest price hike Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162157
[20:32]	DaemonFC	If it's an executive order, and Putin later stops, Biden could reverse the executive order.
[20:32]	TR News	Apache NetBeans 13 released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162158
[20:32]	DaemonFC	If it's a law, we may still ban Russian oil 10-20 years after the war is over.
[20:32]	TR Bot	 Purisms Librem 5 Linux smartphone costs $1299 after the latest price hike | Tux Machines
[20:32]	TR Bot	 Apache NetBeans 13 released | Tux Machines
[20:33]	DaemonFC	You'd be surprised how often things like this just stick around.
[20:33]	MinceR	"Stick around!"
[20:34]	TR News	"Update on what happened across the GNOME project in the week from February 25 to March 04." https://thisweek.gnome.org/posts/2022/03/twig-33/
[20:34]	TR Bot	 #33 Fabulous Screenshots This Week in GNOME
[20:34]	DaemonFC	https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/the-push-to-ban-russian-oil-is-gaining-steam-here-s-what-that-means-for-us-energy-prices/ar-AAUCu1G
[20:34]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-MSN
[20:35]	DaemonFC	"Russian oil imports were 2% of all imports in December."
[20:35]	DaemonFC	I mean, it's not like we depend on them for half our oil.
[20:36]	DaemonFC	Banning Russian oil would cost Russia about $9 million USD per day every day it's in effect at current prices.
[20:36]	MinceR	just frack more
[20:36]	MinceR	you'll even have oil in your water!
[20:37]	DaemonFC	That's about $3.3 billion dollars a year.
[20:38]	DaemonFC	It'll sting them.
[20:38]	TR News	"Gallivm is the nir/tgsi-to-llvm translation layer in Gallium that LLVMpipe (and thus Lavapipe) uses to generate the JIT functions which make triangles." https://www.supergoodcode.com/what/
[20:38]	TR Bot	 What Mike Blumenkrantz Super. Good. Code.
[20:38]	DaemonFC	Europe foolishly depended on them for a ton of oil and gas and now they're going to be in for a very painful transition.
[20:39]	DaemonFC	Probably fully half of people in the EU area won't be able to heat their homes due to their politicians depending on Russia for natural gas imports.
[20:40]	DaemonFC	Banning their fossil fuels would be important for the US policy because it would take away one of the few remaining export products that allows them to sell USD for Rubles and prop that up.
[20:40]	DaemonFC	So the Ruble would lose more support.
[20:41]	DaemonFC	Trying to support the Ruble just leads to other problems.
[20:41]	DaemonFC	Now they have a bunch of Rubles they can't really spend except internally, and there's more Euros and USDs in circulation.
[20:42]	DaemonFC	Which is kind of funny, because it causes a problem for the Fed and the ECB where they're going to have to hike interest rates to try to slow them down.
[20:42]	DaemonFC	Russia will have ended up really fucking the world economy, not just theirs, and it will take years to go back to normal even if the sanctions are removed.
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[20:43]	MinceR	(cat) (audio) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3amq3tg7AY
[20:43]	TR Bot	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=-3amq3tg7AY
[20:43]	TR Bot	yewtu.be | Farmer Found Strange Kittens In His Barn, And It Turned Out To Be So Much More - Invidious
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[20:44]	DaemonFC	https://www.ft.com/content/9aecf062-7882-4418-ae50-a92eb7523adf
[20:44]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: ft.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.ft.com/content/9aecf062-7882-4418-ae50-a92eb7523adf
[20:44]	TR Bot	 Subscribe to read | Financial Times
[20:44]	DaemonFC	sHELL is buying Russian crude anyway even though it said it would stop.
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[20:44]	DaemonFC	Because it can get it at a $28.50 per barrel discount to Brent because the Russians are trying to undercut other countries now to keep their only real export moving.
[20:46]	TR News	Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162159
[20:46]	TR Bot	 Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
[20:46]	XRevan86	Twitter followed Facebook
[20:46]	TR News	Tiny, 1GHz RISC-V SBC launches at $39 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162136#comment-32973
[20:46]	TR Bot	 today's leftovers | Tux Machines
[20:48]	TR News	PowerVR Vulkan driver https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/mesa-dev/2022-March/225699.html
[20:48]	TR Bot	 PowerVR Vulkan driver
[20:49]	TR News	The Month in WordPress February 2022 https://wordpress.org/news/2022/03/the-month-in-wordpress-february-2022/
[20:49]	TR Bot	 The Month in WordPress February 2022 WordPress News
[20:50]	DaemonFC	<XRevan86> Twitter followed Facebook
[20:50]	DaemonFC	I take it VladKontakte is still running.
[20:51]	TR News	Stop outsourcing compilers and integration to Gulag. The Gulag works for NSA and cohorts. It's not an acceptable trade-off. https://piware.de/post/2022-03-04-google-cloud-platform-for-ci/
[20:51]	TR Bot	 Evaluating Google Cloud for Integration Testing Martin Pitt
[20:52]	DaemonFC	Oh they have an office in Sochi, the dump with orange water that reporters were amused by when the Olympics were held near the tent cities.
[20:52]	TR News	Fedora under IBM is not a community but just Red Hat employees and Gulag money for interns, akin to paid actors who pretend 1) there's a community and 2) it's diverse (China does the same in product launches; hiring white Westerners to pose and attend) https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fridays-fedora-facts-2022-09/
[20:52]	TR Bot	 Friday's Fedora Facts: 2022-09 Fedora Community Blog
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[20:55]	XRevan86	DaemonFC: of course
[20:56]	TR News	Openwashing offices, pretending that a bunch of proprietary firms are the very opposite of what they really are; it's akin to greenwashing, wherein massive polluters pretend to value and improve the environment https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/three-ways-to-engage-with-open-source-program-offices/
[20:56]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: linuxfoundation.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/three-ways-to-engage-with-open-source-program-offices/
[20:56]	TR Bot	 Three Ways to Engage with Open Source Program Offices - Linux Foundation
[20:57]	TR News	Perl Weekly Challenge 154: Missing Permutations and Padovan Primes http://blogs.perl.org/users/laurent_r/2022/03/perl-weekly-challenge-154-missing-permutations-and-padovan-primes.html
[20:57]	TR Bot	Weekly Challenge 154: Missing Permutations and Padovan Primes | laurent_r [blogs.perl.org]
[20:58]	TR News	Edited: March 4th 2022 (replacing older strict list): 2021 hardcore list of linux distributions without elogind and other systemd parts https://sysdfree.wordpress.com/2022/03/04/333/
[20:58]	TR Bot	 2021 hardcore list of linux distributions without elogind and other systemd parts | systemd-free linux community
[20:59]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR2, I dumped Fedora because it's falling apart anyway and if that's not bad enough, they consider "old computer not worth supporting anymore" to be 2016 or so.
[20:59]	DaemonFC	Like Microsoft.
● Mar 04
[21:00]	DaemonFC	Debian still works on things 10-15 years older than Fedora does.
[21:00]	DaemonFC	Watching Red Dwarf.
[21:01]	DaemonFC	I hadn't watched Seasons 11 and 12.
[21:05]	DaemonFC	The first episode of Season 11 seems to be a ripoff of Star Trek: First Contact so far.
[21:18]	DaemonFC	Ukraine apparently is emptying the prisons and offering them pardons if they fight the Russians.
[21:18]	DaemonFC	I guess someone's seen The Dirty Dozen.
[21:19]	MinceR	http://www.dorktower.com/2022/02/16/check-check-dork-tower-16-02-22/
[21:19]	TR Bot	 Check? Check DORK TOWER 16.02.22 Dork Tower
[21:25]	batalie	never finished the "dark tower" books
[21:26]	batalie	i realize that's an o and not an a
[21:27]	MinceR	:>
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[21:39]	XRevan86	schestowitz: I beg of you, remove the logs from the public eye.
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[21:52]	psydroid2	are you at risk of your real life identity being found out?
[21:53]	XRevan86	psydroid2: My real life identity was never a secret.
[21:53]	MinceR	you could use different nick, realname, username
[21:53]	XRevan86	A bit too late for that.
[21:53]	psydroid2	XRevan86, oh, I've always tried to keep it a secret online
[21:54]	MinceR	get a vhost via hostserv
[21:54]	bnchs__	XRevan86, i'm guessing something
[21:54]	bnchs__	is that when you talk against russians or something
[21:54]	psydroid2	you could even adopt a wholly new online identity
[21:54]	bnchs__	never use your identity linked to your real identity
[21:54]	psydroid2	yes
[21:54]	bnchs__	learnt that the hard way years ago
[21:54]	bnchs__	don't make the same mistake
[21:55]	psydroid2	I just did it because online abusers might hunt you down in real life
[21:55]	psydroid2	from the very first time I went online
[21:56]	bnchs__	schestowitz would probably have to remove the entire log
[21:56]	bnchs__	and never publish anything
[21:56]	psydroid2	or change sensitive nicks to random anonymousXYZ ones
[21:57]	psydroid2	or even all of them
[21:57]	psydroid2	or yes, never publish anything
[21:57]	XRevan86	The problem is that I have already said too much.
[21:57]	psydroid2	are they after you?
[21:57]	bnchs__	if you already said too much, then accept that it's too late to take it back
[21:57]	XRevan86	No, but if they will, my life will change greatly in a day.
[21:58]	psydroid2	I would adopt a new nick and identity as soon as possible
[21:58]	psydroid2	we'll even get used to you coming up with random new ones
● Mar 04
[22:00]	psydroid2	the people I have met in real life know my name, others have no business knowing it
[22:01]	psydroid2	unless I disclose it to them in private
[22:02]	batalie	a global find and replace for nicks might not be a bad idea
[22:03]	batalie	making batalie a random sha256 string or whatever
[22:03]	psydroid2	sure, why not
[22:03]	psydroid2	the batalie of techrights
[22:03]	psydroid2	where all nicks found their waterloo
[22:16]	batalie	grats on getting off social control media
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[22:38]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR2, You could just find everything he said and redact it.
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[23:26]	XRevan86	robots.txt that excludes things would also work.
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