●● IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Friday, March 05, 2021 ●● ● Mar 05 [00:03] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:22] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [00:22] *rianne__ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [00:22] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [00:22] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [00:53] schestowitz__ https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/internet/shun-non-free-software-to-spare-being-spied-richard-stallman/articleshow/28894504.cms [00:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-economictimes.indiatimes.com | Shun non-free software to spare being spied: Richard Stallman - The Economic Times [00:53] schestowitz__ 2014 [00:58] gry schestowitz__: did you teach this to a IRL friend? or two? or a dozen? and teach them to teach? [00:59] schestowitz__ the above? [00:59] vmg3 Who can say they learnt about dags with sweat running down their crack? [00:59] gry schestowitz__: yes ● Mar 05 [01:00] vmg3 guess you had to be there. [01:01] vmg3 sorry it sounds worse that it is [01:04] techrights-bot #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148437 #Google #Linux #TuxMachines [01:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [01:04] techrights-bot #HowTo un-google your #Chromium browser experience http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148438 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to un-google your Chromium browser experience | Tux Machines [01:04] techrights-bot Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148439 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [01:05] techrights-bot Games: Godot, Artifact, Loop Hero, and Urtuk: The Desolation http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148440 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #games #gaming [01:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Godot, Artifact, Loop Hero, and Urtuk: The Desolation | Tux Machines [01:05] techrights-bot Linux 5.12-rc2 Likely Coming Early Due To That Nasty File-System Corruption Bug https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.12-rc2-Likely-Soon #kernel #linux [01:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 5.12-rc2 Likely Coming Early Due To That Nasty File-System Corruption Bug - Phoronix [01:05] techrights-bot #patents on #vaccines or #monopolies that prey on the ill are a public #health hazard https://writtendescription.blogspot.com/2021/03/are-patents-cause-ofor-solution-tocovid.html [01:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-writtendescription.blogspot.com | Written Description: Are patents the cause ofor solution toCOVID-19 vaccine innovation problems? (No!) [01:07] techrights-bot Amend H.R. 1 To Protect #VotingRights , Not Big Donors https://howiehawkins.us/amend-h-r-1-to-protect-voting-rights-not-big-donors/ [01:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-howiehawkins.us | Amend H.R. 1 To Protect Voting Rights, Not Big Donors | Howie Hawkins for our Future [01:07] techrights-bot A warning about 5.12-rc1 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148441 #kernel #Linux #TuxMachines [01:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A warning about 5.12-rc1 | Tux Machines [01:08] techrights-bot #MakeUseOf promoting the anti- #gnu #linux agenda which is #wsl ... even if almost nobody uses this poison. #wsl2 http://techrights.org/2020/05/06/wsl2-usage-numbers/ [01:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Only About 150,000 People Worldwide Use WSL2 (Windows Subsystem for Linux) | Techrights [01:09] techrights-bot #LinuxLite 5.4 RC1 Run Through http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148207#comment-28517 #gnu #linux [01:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Lite 5.4 Will Be Based on Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS, Release Candidate Ready for Testing | Tux Machines [01:09] techrights-bot "The license included a requirement that any sale/distribution must first receive the Armys advance written approval subject to the Armys sole and absolute discretion." https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/03/federal-circuit-licensing.html [01:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Federal Circuit on TM Licensing: We're going to Enforce the Terms [01:10] techrights-bot "Kinsella on Liberty Podcast, Episode 323. Jed Grant and I appeared on the World Crypto Network channel with host Thomas Hunt to discuss the looming #patent threat to bitcoin." #swpats #SoftwarePatents https://www.stephankinsella.com/paf-podcast/kol323-world-crypto-network-announcing-the-open-crypto-alliance/ [01:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.stephankinsella.com | KOL323 | World Crypto Network: Announcing the Open Crypto Alliance to Protect Bitcoin, Blockchain and Crypto [01:11] techrights-bot #PCLinuxOS : #KDE Plasma Applications updated to 20.12.3 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148430#comment-28516 #gnu #linux [01:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDEs Apps Update for March 2021 Improves Spectacle, Gwenview, and More | Tux Machines [01:11] techrights-bot Repeating #EPO lies. EPO, corrupted by #litigation lobbies and run by crooks who rob the institution, wants us to think that because the rich guard their monopolies it's thus good for the economy https://www.ensafrica.com/news/detail/3894/intellectual-property-rights-a-key-for-stimul/ [01:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ENSafrica - News - Intellectual property rights a key for stimulating economic growth [01:11] techrights-bot As if the EPC is still being followed; the #EPO violates everything is importance in the EPC. Every day. EPC changes regarding inventors [01:12] techrights-bot #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148436 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [01:13] techrights-bot Corrupt #EPO make yet more illegal changes to open the gates to software patent in spite of the lack of legal approval (it's a rogue institution at this point) https://www.dyoung.com/en/knowledgebank/articles/revised-epo-guidelines-2021 [01:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dyoung.com | D Young & Co | Overview of the revised EPO Guidelines for Examination [01:13] techrights-bot More of that same old #propaganda conflating the #protectionism for the rich with the false correlation, alleging it's that protectionism that begets collective wealth (rather than concentration of capital) https://www.thefashionlaw.com/european-union-study-reveals-positive-links-between-intellectual-property-rights-and-economic-performance/ [01:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thefashionlaw.com | EU Study Reveals Positive Links Between Intellectual Property Ownership and Economic Performance | The Fashion Law [01:16] techrights-bot OpenShot: Windows Movie Maker Of #GNU #Linux - YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MT0Wx7LC-u0 #OpenShot is my favourite for simplicity of use [01:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-OpenShot: Windows Movie Maker Of Linux - YouTube [01:16] techrights-bot #linux #kernel focusing on stuff you probably neither want nor need. https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Apple-M1-For-Linux-V3 [01:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple M1 Patches For The Linux Kernel Sent Out A Third Time - Phoronix [01:18] techrights-bot New features, changes & improvements to KernelCI's UI https://www.collabora.com/news-and-blog/blog/2021/03/04/kernelci-ui-features-improvements/ #collabora #kernel #linux #kernelCI [01:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.collabora.com | New features, changes & improvements to KernelCI's UI [01:19] techrights-bot "If you're curious what features Rust 2021 will introduce or what the timeline for getting the edition released on stable is, keep reading!" Until they #deletegithub remove #microsoft from their Board and stop banning/censoring Microsoft critics #rustlang should be avoided. https://blog.rust-lang.org/inside-rust/2021/03/04/planning-rust-2021.html [01:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.rust-lang.org | Planning the Rust 2021 Edition | Inside Rust Blog [01:20] techrights-bot Python range() Explained: What It Is and #HowTo Use It - Make Tech Easier https://www.maketecheasier.com/python-range-explained/ #maketecheasier #python #programming [01:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | Python range() Explained: What It Is and How to Use It - Make Tech Easier [01:21] techrights-bot " #Mageia is a #GNU / #Linux distribution that is a community project begin life as Mandrake, which then became #Mandriva , which then became Mageia. This is a rpm-based distro that uses a static release model and is known for stability." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28CF_o7hkaM [01:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Installation And First Look At Mageia 8 - YouTube [01:21] techrights-bot #OpenMandriva build infrastructure switches to ARM servers https://www.openmandriva.org/en/news/article/openmandriva-build-infrastructure-switches-to-arm-servers #mandriva #gnu #linux [01:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.openmandriva.org | OpenMandriva build infrastructure switches to ARM servers [01:24] techrights-bot #google funded #internet trolls are targeting #techrights and weaponising #socialcontrolmedia to distort the site's stance. They do the same to #phoronix right now... [01:24] schestowitz__ gry: yes, sometimes [01:24] schestowitz__ but they have to want it themselves [01:25] gry schestowitz__: they're in danger. they're being mistreated. do you think it will be possible for you, me, everyone to create the interest? 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  • [02:58] schestowitz__ downloading a local client, dns is up to date now [02:59] vmg3 I'm in a world of pain, trying to set up my box still I change the port from 5001 and reset, bang back to 5001 ● Mar 05 [03:00] schestowitz__ vmg3: is port 1965 open? [03:00] schestowitz__ at router level? [03:00] schestowitz__ maybe it gets redirected to another device? [03:00] vmg3 I opened some ports in 99xx range [03:01] vmg3 on router not 1965 [03:01] vmg3 i can [03:01] schestowitz__ can you open it? [03:01] schestowitz__ I cannot even route through it internally [03:01] vmg3 yeah gimmie a tic [03:01] schestowitz__ ta [03:01] schestowitz__ then it should be up and running [03:02] schestowitz__ on /home/roy/gemini [03:02] schestowitz__ you can see the example file there already [03:02] vmg3 it only works by device [03:02] schestowitz__ yeah, add this device [03:02] schestowitz__ make port 1965 channel traffic to it [03:03] vmg3 tcp i gather [03:04] schestowitz__ yes, or both [03:04] schestowitz__ udp might also be useful one daya [03:04] vmg3 ok i'll do both [03:05] vmg3 thats done, I'm back to working on getting my machine going grumble grumble [03:06] schestowitz__ still not getting through, let me check.. [03:06] schestowitz__ port 1965 going to that device... [03:08] vmg3 try now it was broken by me [03:08] vmg3 set on dns [03:08] schestowitz__ aha [03:08] schestowitz__ now it's OK [03:08] DaemonFC[m] https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1259522 [03:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | U.S. issues warning after Microsoft says China hacked its mail server program [03:14] schestowitz__ sorted, vmg3 [03:14] schestowitz__ now point your reader/browser/client at it [03:14] schestowitz__ e.g. ./amfora_1.7.2_linux_64-bit gemini://au.techrights.org [03:14] vmg3 well you've had better luck than me [03:14] schestowitz__ I put amfora on /home/roy/bin [03:14] schestowitz__ you can start editing at /home/roy/gemini [03:14] schestowitz__ so it's your site [03:14] schestowitz__ just don't say nasty things there ;-) [03:15] schestowitz__ mjg59 troll gonna troll [03:15] MinceR f-word [03:15] schestowitz__ we can change things like domain later [03:15] vmg3 lol I try to play nice [03:15] vmg3 Ty [03:15] schestowitz__ maybe we can rsync some stuff across at some stage [03:15] MinceR aitch-e-double-hockeysticks [03:16] vmg3 hi [03:16] MinceR lol [03:18] vmg3 the penny drops. vpn tunnel [03:18] vmg3 wasted hours [03:21] schestowitz__ DaemonFC[m]: http://techrights.org/2021/03/03/microsoft-blame-shifting-tactics/ [03:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Weaponises (and Further Spreads) Racism to Distract From Its Own Incompetence (and Five Eyes Collusion for Back Door Access) | Techrights [03:22] *techrights-ipfs has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [03:28] *koo5 has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [03:29] schestowitz__ hmm.. did freenode change something? [03:30] gry schestowitz__: like what? [03:30] schestowitz__ ipfs over ii [03:30] schestowitz__ cannot get it to work [03:30] gry what *is* that? [03:30] schestowitz__ or to show up after reconnection [03:32] DaemonFC[m] https://wgntv.com/news/coronavirus/morris-family-grieving-loss-attributed-to-covid-psychosis/ [03:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wgntv.com | Morris family grieving loss attributed to COVID psychosis | WGN-TV [03:32] DaemonFC[m] Great. COVID is causing people to become psychotic sometimes. [03:33] *techrights-ipfs (~techright@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:c7f2:e919:b6dc:6252) has joined #techrights [03:33] schestowitz__ I had to zap the whole dir [03:33] schestowitz__ testing: [03:33] gry hi [03:33] gry what is ipfs and what is ii [03:34] techrights-ipfs freenode test [03:34] schestowitz__ I guess a file got locked or something [03:34] schestowitz__ gry: ii is suckless irc client [03:34] schestowitz__ ipfs is distributed file system [03:34] schestowitz__ i need to go to bed [03:35] schestowitz__ at least we got au.techrights.org set up ok with gemini [03:35] DaemonFC[m] https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/28/health/covid-psychosis-mental.html [03:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Small Number of Covid Patients Develop Severe Psychotic Symptoms - The New York Times [03:35] gry schestowitz__: are you from Australia? [03:35] schestowitz__ no [03:36] gry ok, good night [03:36] schestowitz__ DaemonFC[m]: not really on topic [03:36] schestowitz__ hours ago the channel was flooded by trans stuff [03:36] schestowitz__ we need to talk about tech [03:36] schestowitz__ the trolls want us not to [03:37] gry well tech is about communication, so it is a bit related [03:37] mjg59 (Trans rights are fundamental to free software) [03:37] gry just the implementation of the discussion was a bit inefficient [03:38] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 17.75 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 13.41 swarm size (avg): 123.57 [03:39] MinceR (as opposed to the rights of people cancelled by SJWs like mjg59, apparently) [03:41] mjg59 You keep talking about the latter, so it seems like the former should be on topic too [03:42] MinceR is that what corporate said? [03:42] mjg59 Which corporate? [03:42] MinceR the one that's paying you to troll here and collect dirt on us [03:42] mjg59 That one doesn't exist, so [03:43] mjg59 Much as I'd love to be paid to sit on IRC [03:43] MinceR charity for monopolists? that's a new one [03:43] mjg59 Which monopolists? [03:43] MinceR microsoft, ibm, apple, intel [03:44] MinceR probably others too [03:44] mjg59 Yeah, none of them are giving me cash [03:44] mjg59 So if you think I'm acting on their behalf, guess it must be charity [03:44] MinceR some people just want to watch the world burn [03:45] mjg59 Alternative explanation: I'm not trolling [03:45] MinceR not a plausible explanation [03:45] mjg59 I'm 100% earnest [03:46] *kingoffrance has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [03:59] *kingoffrance (~x@2601:681:8200:b890::b94c) has joined #techrights ● Mar 05 [04:02] CrystalMath i think most people don't understand how trans rights are fundamental to free software, apart from the obvious part that everyone's rights are partialy fundamental to free software [04:02] CrystalMath so i'm currently one of these "most people" [04:03] CrystalMath even if you swap free software with tech rights, it's still a little odd, but getting closer [04:03] CrystalMath closer because... you can say that tech rights has more to do with trans rights [04:03] CrystalMath just think, privacy for example [04:05] mjg59 People can choose to act in ways that are incompatible with the goals of free software [04:05] mjg59 For instance, they can implement DRM, provide restricted network services, refuse to let people have access to their data [04:05] CrystalMath well, most people on the planet do, it's always been an uphill battle [04:06] mjg59 But people cannot themselves *be* incompatible with the goals of free software [04:06] MinceR how is this specific to trans people? [04:06] mjg59 There's nothing inherent in any individual that makes it impossible for them to aid the cause [04:06] CrystalMath i totally agree mjg59 [04:06] MinceR that seems false to me [04:06] CrystalMath why MinceR? [04:06] MinceR i don't see how it would be possible for someone like lennart poettering or satya nadella to aid the cause of free software [04:06] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [04:07] CrystalMath MinceR: hmm, well Satya Nadella helped ReactOS a bit [04:07] mjg59 So when people inside our community *choose* to discriminate against people because of who they *are*, not what they've *done*, they're weakening free software [04:07] CrystalMath in fact, those are ways in which the ReactOS team itself was uncooperative! [04:07] MinceR and he hindered free unixes a lot, but who cares about OSes that actually work, right? [04:07] CrystalMath ReactOS devs just said "use proprietary drivers" [04:07] CrystalMath and Satya Nadella had windows drivers open sourced [04:08] CrystalMath so we're no longer forced to choose between audio and a fully free reactos install [04:08] MinceR and he continued the redmond mafia's old practice of using (fraudulent) software patents to punish businesses for selling devices with Linux on them [04:08] MinceR and to force those businesses to preload microshit malware on some of those devices [04:08] CrystalMath mjg59: it would be sad if someone discriminated against anyone in a free software project, but it's also very hard to do [04:09] CrystalMath after all, the software's open source, it can be easily forked, and forks can still work together [04:09] MinceR but hey, as long as a reimplementation of a fundamentally broken design progresses a bit toward a goal it will never reach, that doesn't matter [04:09] CrystalMath if a patch is good, it would be idiotic to not include it [04:09] MinceR forks won't work together when the reason for a fork is disagreement about whether the software should force systemd on the user [04:09] CrystalMath they still can [04:09] CrystalMath many patches can work in both versions [04:09] Old_Man Of course, when you see mjg59 make accusations of "people inside our community discriminating against people because of who they are," he's always just making it up as a pure fiction. [04:10] CrystalMath even parts of systemd can work with non-systemd stuff! [04:10] mjg59 CrystalMath: People in free software communities frequently discriminate against people on the basis of their race, sex or whether they're trans [04:10] Old_Man He spews out such false accusations with zero evidence. [04:10] Old_Man And then tries to lie about what the dictionary says "evidence" even *is*. :D [04:10] Old_Man Remember the reason why mjg59 constantly brings up the subject of people's sex: "Our world is not divided by race, color, gender, or religion. Our world is divided into wise people and fools. And fools divide themselves by race, color, gender, or religion." -Mohamad Safa [04:10] CrystalMath mjg59: how do you define "people in free software communities"? usually it's guests that throw silly insults, not the people who actually do stuf f [04:11] CrystalMath *stuff [04:11] CrystalMath most of the people who do actual work are very open minded [04:11] CrystalMath even ESR [04:11] MinceR open-minded people are, of course, easy for crybullies to cancel [04:11] CrystalMath ESR even once boasted he would accept code from aliens if it was good [04:12] MinceR well, that's easy to say [04:12] MinceR chances are even if aliens exist, they aren't as rotten, corrupt or evil as humans [04:12] MinceR it seems difficult to come up with this level of inequity by pure chance [04:12] mjg59 CrystalMath: How are we defining doing stuff? [04:13] mjg59 The people who provide support on forums are doing stuff just as much as the people who write code are [04:13] MinceR and if we manage to communicate with aliens, chances are it's because they haven't failed as hard with technology as we have [04:13] MinceR yes, i know [04:13] MinceR the people who fix typos in comments are just as important as people who design kernels and make sure people like GKH don't fuck them up with their idiotic ideas [04:14] CrystalMath GKH isn't bad IMO [04:14] MinceR next step: the former are more important than the latter [04:14] mjg59 From a strategic perspective, communities that demonstrate support for people regardless of their innate characteristics have a wider potential pool of contributors [04:14] MinceR GKH is incompetent [04:14] MinceR he was pushing for kdbus to be merged [04:14] *Old_Man blinks. [04:14] mjg59 Proprietary software firms understand this [04:14] Old_Man Which kernel do you maintain, again? [04:14] MinceR which one do you maintain? [04:15] Old_Man Yes, that was my question. [04:15] MinceR mine as well [04:15] Old_Man I don't. But, I don't call the kernel maintainer "incompetent" either, so that was kind of a stupid question for you to ask me. [04:15] Old_Man But, the fact that you dodged the question has been noted. [04:15] mjg59 All the proprietary firms try to demonstrate how welcoming they are [04:16] MinceR one does not need to maintain an entire kernel to determine whether obviously stupid software design decisions are obviously stupid or not [04:16] CrystalMath mjg59: i don't think it's good to boast about basic decency, or to replace decency with just boasting about it [04:16] mjg59 Oh, I agree [04:16] mjg59 It's necessary to actually demonstrate it [04:16] MinceR mjg59: yes, by putting carefully designed subsets on display, while hiding most of what they do [04:16] mjg59 A lot of the corporate propaganda here is lip service [04:16] Old_Man However, one *does* need to maintain an entire kernel in order for their opinion of "incompetence" at it, or "obviously stupid software design decisions" are applicable. [04:16] MinceR just like how microshit gets to demonstrate how high quality their code is by hiding the code and the bug database [04:16] mjg59 And discrimination is rampent once you're behind the scenes [04:17] Old_Man s/are/to be/ [04:17] MinceR Old_Man: or, one might read what Linus wrote about it [04:17] mjg59 So free software needs to actually demonstrate that it lives up to its goals [04:17] MinceR and ask why did it even have to reach the project leader at all [04:17] MinceR mjg59: it did, that's why the likes of the redmond mafia are trying everything they can think of to kill it [04:17] Old_Man Or one might learn from Andrew Tannenbaum's criticism of linux, all those decades ago. :D [04:18] Old_Man (Might have misspelled his name) [04:18] MinceR that's why we have SJW troll armies harassing software engineers to apply CoC-s to their projects and host a copy in the repository [04:18] CrystalMath mjg59: well free software has a different problem, its developer base reflects the set of people that have lots of free time and and a disposable income [04:18] MinceR Old_Man: did Tanenbaum said Linux would be better if it had an atrocious IPC implementation in it? [04:19] Old_Man He said it would be better as a microkernel architecture. [04:19] CrystalMath and because of things unrelated to free software, that generally tends to look very homogenous with regards to race and gender [04:19] MinceR that sounds an awful lot like a step in the opposite direction [04:19] MinceR a huge step in the opposite direction [04:20] Old_Man Ultimately, even though he was a professor of operating system design at the time, his opinion of what constituted "stupid design decision" was irrelevant in the real world. [04:20] CrystalMath Old_Man: and that has not changed one bit [04:20] Old_Man The lesson we learned was: hurling abuse from the cheap seats is easy. Doing it better is hard. [04:20] CrystalMath mjg59: so my theory is that this causes free software projects to look like they're discriminating, when actually they're not [04:20] CrystalMath and statistics aren't enough to determine it [04:21] CrystalMath you would have to actually send people undercover as minorities to free software projects, to see if they would be accepted or not [04:21] mjg59 CrystalMath: Sure, stats don't determine that. The economic aspect is real. [04:21] MinceR "doing it better" is what happened earlier [04:21] mjg59 But individuals do report being discouraged from involving themselves because of community norms [04:22] MinceR which norms? [04:22] CrystalMath at ReactOS, we got very very very few in these 20 and so years, and they've all been welcomed by the community, but they all left because they had no free time to do this [04:22] mjg59 In any case, it doesn't sound like we fundamentally disagree [04:22] mjg59 Free software projects should be supportive of efforts to end discrimination against people for who they are [04:22] mjg59 Doing so can't hurt free software, but it can improve it [04:22] Old_Man The community norm that mjg59 objects to is, "write better code. Build something better." [04:22] MinceR :> [04:23] Old_Man Those who can't function in such a meritocracy because they lack merit, usually try to change the subject to sex or race or something equally irrelevant. [04:23] Old_Man Just as mjg59 does every day. [04:24] Old_Man And if he can't pull people's attention away from building better software and writing better code, he'll just start randomly spewing out false accusations with no evidence, because he's a lying bigot that way. [04:24] mjg59 Like your false accusation that I was lying about Trump's islamophobia [04:24] Old_Man That wasn't a false accusation. Trump presented the evidence that it wasn't irrational. [04:25] Old_Man When I asked, of course, you omitted to name that evidence, thus confirming that you are willing to lie to spread false narratives. [04:25] Old_Man So, keep on trying to distract with such irrelevancies. [04:25] Old_Man It just further demonstrates that you lack merit to participate in a meritocracy. [04:29] mjg59 Ok, let's frame this a different way [04:30] mjg59 Barriers that prevent people from being involved in free software hurt free software, both in terms of the number of people who can contribute and the number of people who can avail themselves of the freedoms [04:31] mjg59 Personally, I feel that some of those barriers exist within free software itself. Others may disagree. [04:31] mjg59 But those barriers absolutely *do* exist in society as a whole [04:31] mjg59 Economic disparity makes it more difficult for people to benefit from free software. We should care about reducing economic disparity. [04:32] mjg59 Social discrimination leaves people in worse life situations, which makes it more difficult for those affected to benefit from free software. We should care about reducing that discrimination. [04:33] Old_Man So, are you resolving to quit being a fucking liar, hurling out false accusations, so that when such discrimination *does* rear its ugly head, people will believe you, rather than assume you're just "crying wolf" again? [04:33] Old_Man What will you do to rebuild the credibility you've destroyed? [04:34] Old_Man Also: what are you doing to reduce economic disparity? What sacrifices are you, yourself, willfully and voluntarily making, to be a model for others to emulate? [04:38] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 18.66 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 32.15 swarm size (avg): 123.94 [04:43] mjg59 Old_Man: What answers would you consider acceptable? [04:46] Old_Man Honest ones only, please. There's enough lying and falsehood in the world already. [04:49] *techrights-ipfs has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [04:49] mjg59 I donate to various charities. I engage in some local activism. I prioritise spending money with businesses that are community oriented. I vote based on candidate policies that would improve things. [04:50] mjg59 I don't devote my entire life to this problem, because it's not what I'm best at, and doing what I'm best at makes it easier to support people who are better than me at working on this ● Mar 05 [05:08] *cubexyz has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [05:08] *cubexyz (~cubeman@maxhost.org) has joined #techrights [05:21] *vmg32 (~vmg3b@66.115.157.112) has joined #techrights [05:24] *vmg3 has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [05:25] *vmg32 is now known as vmg3 [05:52] vmg3 Not a bad article, also highlights the problems if you use your imagination. https://www.themandarin.com.au/150779-dos-and-donts-for-presenting-data-ethically/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+theMandarinAU+%28The+Mandarin%29 [05:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.themandarin.com.au | Dos and donts for presenting data ethically | The Mandarin ● Mar 05 [06:18] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Support Richard Stallman! | https://sterling-archermedes.github.io/) [06:41] *jess has quit (Quit: K-Lined) ● Mar 05 [07:03] techrights-bot #Techrights Bulletin for Thursday, March 04, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [07:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives [07:03] techrights-bot #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [07:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index [07:14] techrights-bot NEWS #TomsHardware #raspi #CircuitPython Could Become a Bootable OS for Raspberry Pi https://www.tomshardware.com/news/circuitpython-bootable-os-raspberry-pi [07:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tomshardware.com | CircuitPython Could Become a Bootable OS for Raspberry Pi | Tom's Hardware [07:14] techrights-bot NEWS #ThreatPost #Chrome #Google Patches Actively-Exploited Flaw in Chrome Browser https://threatpost.com/google-patches-actively-exploited-flaw-in-chrome-browser/164468/ [07:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google Patches Actively Exploited Flaw in Chrome Browser | Threatpost [07:14] techrights-bot NEWS #BraveBrowser #Chrome GOGGLES: Democracy dies in darkness, and so does the Web https://brave.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/goggles.pdf [07:15] techrights-bot NEWS #SiliconAngle #db Open-source relational #database startup #Yugabyte raises $48M https://siliconangle.com/2021/03/03/open-source-relational-database-startup-yugabyte-raises-48m/ [07:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Open-source relational database startup Yugabyte raises $48M - SiliconANGLE [07:16] *techrights-ipfs (~techright@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:c7f2:e919:b6dc:6252) has joined #techrights [07:16] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 19.48 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 4.88 swarm size (avg): 124.56 [07:16] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 19.48 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 4.88 swarm size (avg): 124.56 [07:17] techrights-bot NEWS #RTL Kids, remember to talk to your parents about [Internet] safety! https://today.rtl.lu/your-luxembourg/opinion/a/1681574.html [07:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-today.rtl.lu | RTL Today - Ian Pocervina: Kids, remember to talk to your parents about internet safety! [07:24] techrights-bot NEWS #ChristineDodrill #ProprietarySoftware Development on Windows is Painful https://christine.website/blog/windows-pain-2021-03-03 #microsoft #windows [07:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-christine.website | Development on Windows is Painful - Christine Dodrill [07:24] techrights-bot NEWS #ThreatPost #ProprietarySoftware #Microsoft -Provided Malicious Code Bombs Target Amazon, Lyft, Slack, Zillow https://threatpost.com/malicious-code-bombs-amazon-lyft-slack-zillow/164455/ [07:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Malicious Code Bombs Target Amazon, Lyft, Slack, Zillow | Threatpost [07:25] techrights-bot NEWS #CyberScoop #ProprietarySoftware #Ryuk #ransomware develops worm-like capabilities, France warns https://www.cyberscoop.com/ryuk-ransomware-develops-worm-like-capabilities-anssi-france/ [07:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ryuk ransomware develops worm-like capabilities, France warns - CyberScoop [07:38] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.86 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 8.78 swarm size (avg): 124.89 [07:41] techrights-bot #patents on #nature and on life, not as the #law intended https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/03/ptab-sets-preliminary-motions-in-cvc-v-toolgen-interference.html [07:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: PTAB Sets Preliminary Motions in CVC v. ToolGen Interference [07:43] techrights-bot #Database HowTos and #Yugabyte Funding http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148449 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [07:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Database HowTos and Yugabyte Funding | Tux Machines [07:43] techrights-bot A Week with #Mageia 8: Two Success Stories http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148448 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [07:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A Week with Mageia 8: Two Success Stories | Tux Machines [07:43] techrights-bot Can You Turn a #RaspberryPi into a Laptop Computer? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148447 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #raspi [07:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Can You Turn a Raspberry Pi into a Laptop Computer? | Tux Machines [07:43] techrights-bot Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148446 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [07:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [07:44] techrights-bot #techrights will soon have an article on #RaspberrySpy or #RaSpy for short. [07:48] techrights-bot Does #freecodecamp get paid by #microsoft to push #proprietarySoftware Microsoft Office stuff? What's even the connection to code? Or FREE code? Weird. [07:56] *jess (jess@freenode/staff/jess) has joined #techrights [07:58] techrights-bot #hipSYCL needs to #deletegithub to be taken seriously. https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=hipSYCL-WIP-Intel-L0-Backend #proprietarySoftware #microsoft #monopoly http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github [07:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hipSYCL Sees Work-In-Progress Support For Intel oneAPI Level Zero Backend - Phoronix [07:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Delete Github - Techrights [07:59] techrights-bot "Welcome, March! We've had a great week within the Apache community." https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the-apache-news-round-up216 #deletegithub to keep Apache free http://techrights.org/2019/04/29/asf-prisoner-of-microsoft/ [07:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.apache.org | The Apache News Round-up: week ending 5 March 2021 : The Apache Software Foundation Blog [07:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | After Killing the Independence of Apache Software Foundation (ASF) Microsoft Steals Its Soul, Too | Techrights ● Mar 05 [08:03] techrights-bot Sounds decent until they taint themselves with 'certification' associated with the catastrophe that is #microsoft #azure which lays off workers because it's such an absolute failure https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/03/05/nxp-i-mx-9-processors-to-integrate-arm-ethos-u-65-micronpu-edgelock-secure-enclave/ [08:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | NXP i.MX 9 processors to integrate Arm Ethos U-65 microNPU, EdgeLock secure enclave [08:04] *mmu_man (~revol@82-65-227-82.subs.proxad.net) has joined #techrights [08:13] schestowitz__ https://www.forbes.com/forbes/2001/0709/128.html [08:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | Survivor [08:16] techrights-bot x https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bill-gates-15-more-rich-190001636.html [08:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-finance.yahoo.com | Bill Gates and 15 More Rich People Who Wont Leave Money to Their Kids [08:17] techrights-bot #corporateMedia is spreading #billgates propaganda again. Working on reputation laundering for corrupt oligarchs who need to be arrested. No, Gates does leave the money to himself & kids, who control a fake 'charity' which exists just for #bribery and #taxevasion [08:18] techrights-bot old: #Borland #microsoft #cult #history #CriminalCompany https://money.cnn.com/1997/09/19/technology/borland/ [08:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-money.cnn.com | Borland, Microsoft settle - Sep. 19, 1997 [08:18] techrights-bot old: #Borland #microsoft #cult #history #CriminalCompany https://www.sfgate.com/business/article/Borland-Says-Microsoft-Raided-Staff-2841016.php [08:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sfgate.com | Borland Says Microsoft Raided Staff [08:18] techrights-bot old: "By 1991 #Borland had $300 million in sales and an outsize market cap of $3 billion. That same year Kahn snubbed a $4 billion offer from IBM." https://www.forbes.com/forbes/2001/0709/128.html [08:21] techrights-bot #IRC Proceedings: Thursday, March 04, 2021 http://techrights.org/2021/03/05/irc-log-040321/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/05/irc-log-040321/ [08:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Thursday, March 04, 2021 | Techrights [08:25] techrights-bot Top 9 Best #Ubuntu -Based Linux Distros http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148450 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [08:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Top 9 Best Ubuntu-Based Linux Distros | Tux Machines [08:25] techrights-bot #Debian Server vs. #Ubuntu Server Comparison http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148451 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [08:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian Server vs. Ubuntu Server Comparison | Tux Machines [08:25] techrights-bot Top 10 Most Secure Linux Distros for Personal Use http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148452 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [08:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Top 10 Most Secure Linux Distros for Personal Use | Tux Machines [08:32] techrights-bot 5 surprising things you can do with #LibreOffice from the command line http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148453 #GNU #Linux #freesw [08:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 5 surprising things you can do with LibreOffice from the command line | Tux Machines [08:35] techrights-bot #epo blunder: "1500-2500 candidates per paper are too many to serves as Guinee pigs for a proven immature system (proven by Mock 2 and 3)" http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/03/a-chaotic-start-to-eeqes.html?showComment=1614922318590#c3368111164584636818 also #corruption http://techrights.org/2021/03/03/epo-does-not-understand-software/ [08:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | A chaotic start to the eEQEs - The IPKat [08:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPOs Software Blunders Are Inevitable Outcome of Technically Clueless Management Which Grants Illegal Patents on Software | Techrights [08:36] techrights-bot "Moreover, generally this info, on ownership of patents and changes in scope, falls within the data managed not by SSOs but by the European Patent Office (EPO)." #EPO if hugely corrupt and incompetent http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/03/05/the-eu-seps-expert-group-report-transparency-issues/ [08:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | The EU SEPs Expert Group Report Transparency Issues - Kluwer Patent Blog [08:37] techrights-bot If #epo wasn't immune, there would be many prosecutions and arrests http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EPO [08:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO - Techrights [08:38] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 18.51 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 25.88 swarm size (avg): 125.21 [08:50] schestowitz__ LOL https://blog.avast.com/does-linux-need-antivirus-avast [08:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.avast.com | Does Linux Need Antivirus? 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[11:24] *livestradamus (~quassel@unaffiliated/livestradamus) has joined #techrights [11:29] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [11:30] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [11:48] *koo5 (~koo5@37-48-28-155.nat.epc.tmcz.cz) has joined #techrights [11:51] *CrystalMath (~coderain@reactos/developer/theflash) has joined #techrights [11:55] techrights-bot Professional Troll Matthew Garrett Spreads Libel, Defamation and Slander About the Free Software Community to Entertain #Microsoft and Friends http://techrights.org/2021/03/05/google-funded-trolls/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/05/google-funded-trolls/ [11:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Professional Troll Matthew Garrett Spreads Libel, Defamation and Slander About the Free Software Community to Entertain Microsoft and Friends | Techrights [11:55] schestowitz__ MinceR DaemonFC[m] Old_Man ^ [11:55] schestowitz__ decided to do a quick response [11:56] schestowitz__ Techrights will from now on go even harder on Google [11:56] schestowitz__ for trolling and troll-sponsoring [11:56] schestowitz__ and for bribing just about every FOSS 'institution' [11:56] schestowitz__ to stay silence or to participate in this trollingf ● Mar 05 [12:25] techrights-bot The #www will 'die' as we know it... with #chromium =based browsers becoming almost "THE" Web (even #apple uses the same underlying code for rendering) and with #DRM (EEE/EME) INSIDE the 'standards' the Web browser (tied closely to 'the Web' now) controls the users. The users don't control anything. [12:26] techrights-bot Techrights in #Australia (IPFS and Gemini) http://techrights.org/2021/03/05/ipfs-and-gemini-aussie/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/05/ipfs-and-gemini-aussie/ [12:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights in Australia (IPFS and Gemini) | Techrights [12:29] *koo5 has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [12:42] techrights-bot After months of parking in our #IRC channels to provoke and troll people (and try to collect dirt from responses) the professional troll #MatthewGarrett has been for many years shows his true colours again http://techrights.org/2021/03/05/google-funded-trolls/ gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/05/google-funded-trolls/ [12:43] techrights-bot Allies in #Australia will help #Techrights serve material from another server; were still bettering ourselves for an era of oppressive #WorldWideWeb http://techrights.org/2021/03/05/ipfs-and-gemini-aussie/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/05/ipfs-and-gemini-aussie/ [12:45] *koo5 (~koo5@37-48-28-155.nat.epc.tmcz.cz) has joined #techrights [12:45] techrights-bot More people will see ana appreciate the explosive growth of #geminiSpace when #techrights releases weekly or monthly usage stats. Want to know what's latest in Gemini protocol? Follow this list: https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/ [12:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | The Gemini 2021 Archive by thread [12:47] techrights-bot The liars from #bristowsLLP are again spreading more lies about the #unifiedPatentCourt or #UPC which is dead https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=266fcbed-6aab-4786-a68e-9d0591739374 at least the lies are consistent: http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Bristows_LLP [12:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Q&A: key IP issues affecting licensing agreements in United Kingdom - Lexology [12:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bristows LLP - Techrights [12:48] techrights-bot FOSS Patents: German #patent #injunction reform bill fails "Keep It Simple, Stupid" efficacy test: automotive industry, smartphone makers won't save license fees http://www.fosspatents.com/2021/03/german-patent-injunction-reform-bill.html #fosspatents | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/03/05/#latest [12:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: German patent injunction reform bill fails "Keep It Simple, Stupid" efficacy test: automotive industry, smartphone makers won't save license fees [12:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [12:49] techrights-bot How to make the #patent system look like a farce that enriches #patentTrolls and harms (costs) everyone: "In Judge Alan Albrights second jury trial, VLSI Technology was awarded $2.18 billion in damages after a jury ruled on Tuesday" https://www.managingip.com/article/b1qtjzn6f2j03v/this-week-in-ip-counsel-fear-dsa-gaps-intel-loses-22bn-case-wipo-releases-ip-stats [12:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | This week in IP: counsel fear DSA gaps, Intel loses $2.2bn case, WIPO releases IP stats | Managing Intellectual Property [12:52] *genr8_ has quit (Quit: Leaving) [12:53] *genr8_ (~genr8_@unaffiliated/genbtc) has joined #techrights [12:56] techrights-bot "We are reaching another milestone with ProtonDB: we are very close to 7000 Windows games confirmed to be working out of the box with Proton on Linux." https://boilingsteam.com/7000-windows-games-working-on-linux-with-proton/ [12:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | Proton Has Enabled 7000 Windows Games to Run on Linux - Boiling Steam [12:57] techrights-bot 5 useful #Moodle plugins to engage students http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148462 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 5 useful Moodle plugins to engage students | Tux Machines [12:57] techrights-bot Wines Project Leader Has Given A Blessing To The #Wayland Effort http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148461 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine's Project Leader Has Given A Blessing To The Wayland Effort | Tux Machines [12:58] techrights-bot #NomadBSD 1.4 Release Brings A New GUI to Easily Install Browsers & Other Important Improvements http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148376#comment-28519 #bsd #unix [12:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NomadBSD 1.4 is now available! | Tux Machines ● Mar 05 [13:03] techrights-bot HA! Moving from one #outsourcing trap to another (or a #surveillance company #google that sponsors professional trolls) to another. How about serving RSS directly? https://www.linuxtechmore.com/2021/03/switching-from-feedburner-to-followit.html [13:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxtechmore.com | Switching from Feedburner to follow.it, and this is why [13:07] *asusbox2 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [13:07] *asusbox2 (~rianne@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:30b8:6ad7:3d43:7a67) has joined #techrights [13:11] techrights-bot I see that #PaulKrill is still pushing #microsoft #marketing spam at #infoworld (well, #idg and now Chinese-owned). It's not news, it's barely on topic, so surely some form of reciprocity for "sponsor"... [13:13] *koo5 has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [13:14] techrights-bot KDE Plasma 5.22: Adaptive Transparency! https://write.as/niccolove/kde-plasma-5-22-adaptive-transparency #kde #gnu #linux [13:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-write.as | KDE Plasma 5.22: Adaptive Transparency! niccolove [13:19] techrights-bot CentOS 7 - Ah ah ah stayin alive (in 2021) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148463 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [13:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CentOS 7 - Ah ah ah stayin' alive (in 2021) | Tux Machines [13:19] techrights-bot CentOS 7 - Ah ah ah stayin alive (in 2021) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148463 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [13:20] techrights-bot Racist #ibm killed millions of humans. Killing #centos is nothing for racist IBM. techrights.org/2020/08/16/ibm-powered-purges/ [13:20] psydroid Microsoft is now sending out people to make a big problem out of Apple M1 and ARM SBCs not being able to offer the "real Windows x86 experience", that's how desperate and pathetic they've become [13:22] techrights-bot Gopher, Gemini, and the rise of the small #Internet http://www.linux-magazine.com/Issues/2021/245/The-Rise-of-the-Small-Internet [13:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux-magazine.com | Beyond the Web Linux Magazine [13:46] schestowitz__ psydroid: but don't underestimate them [13:46] schestowitz__ they've long done the most evil things [13:46] schestowitz__ like bribing people to defect [13:47] schestowitz__ or sending out moles like Elop [13:47] schestowitz__ for the sole purpose of destroying rivals from the inside [13:48] techrights-bot #LinuxMagazine Latest Issue (Paywall) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148464 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [13:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Magazine Latest Issue (Paywall) | Tux Machines ● Mar 05 [14:01] *koo5 (~koo5@37-48-28-155.nat.epc.tmcz.cz) has joined #techrights [14:15] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [14:23] cybrNaut "tranny" is a slur after all: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/commit/1c0cc78f3f6d191aa384d8702016564625d51269 [14:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Adding \b before a slur. LemmyNet/lemmy@1c0cc78 GitHub [14:24] XRevan86 or a dimunitive for whale oil [14:56] Old_Man ...Except for when people claim there are exceptions to what constitutes a "slur." [14:56] MinceR ask avast whether they want to sell their product for "Linux" [14:56] MinceR the answer might surprise you! [14:57] Old_Man Then that just tells you, they're trying to be little language-despots, declaring ***for other people*** what their intentions are. [14:57] MinceR whale oil beef hooked ● Mar 05 [15:05] schestowitz__ Old_Man: this overlooks the real issue [15:05] schestowitz__ which is guilt by inferences or false association [15:05] schestowitz__ like, is Michael Larabel accountable for everything written by everyone who sets a free account in Phoronix Forums [15:05] schestowitz__ that's what we should talk about [15:06] schestowitz__ not what racist Microsoft tells us about what words are and mean [15:06] schestowitz__ or racist IBM [15:06] MinceR it is, if an SJW _feels_ that way [15:06] schestowitz__ they both have sexism issues too [15:06] schestowitz__ this is what they strive to distract from [15:06] MinceR in the New Dark Ages, feelings are more important than facts [15:07] schestowitz__ [13:45] Hi, we are #google Our very top managers use their position as bosses to get b(e)low jobs from female employees b(e)low them and we pay the BOSSES MILLIONS of dollars to cover that up! We now pay millions for trolls to lecture #freesw coders on sexism: http://techrights.org/2021/03/05/google-funded-trolls/ [15:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Professional Troll Matthew Garrett Spreads Libel, Defamation and Slander About the Free Software Community to Entertain Microsoft and Friends | Techrights [15:07] schestowitz__ [13:20] Racist #ibm killed millions of humans. Killing #centos is nothing for racist IBM. techrights.org/2020/08/16/ibm-powered-purges/ [15:07] schestowitz__ those from today... [15:07] schestowitz__ to give few examples [15:07] MinceR and of course it's easy to pay people to feel a certain way [15:07] schestowitz__ yup [15:07] schestowitz__ media too [15:07] MinceR if you have lots of money, like the redmond mafia does [15:08] schestowitz__ bribed [15:08] schestowitz__ ibm too [15:08] schestowitz__ google [15:08] MinceR or the armonk mafia, yes [15:08] schestowitz__ media companies fear google [15:08] schestowitz__ because of advertising cloud [15:08] schestowitz__ *clot too [15:08] schestowitz__ clout [15:08] schestowitz__ those who bring up trans issues are the trolls in here [15:08] schestowitz__ not us [15:09] schestowitz__ we didn't even mention that [15:09] schestowitz__ but the trolls pollute and undermine forums [15:09] schestowitz__ or bring up topics that would likely attract at least one undesirable reply [15:09] Old_Man They're just telling us that they're trying to distract from free software because they lack anything of value to contribute. [15:09] schestowitz__ if we didn't do free speech, and if we censored IRC (we don't), the troll would not be here to begin with [15:10] schestowitz__ Old_Man: they use shame and guilt also [15:10] Old_Man So they distract with race/sex/phenotype tribalism, and Orwellian "newspeak," and hate-shrieking against Trump. [15:10] schestowitz__ corporations=polite [15:10] schestowitz__ community=unruly [15:10] schestowitz__ see the original tweets [15:10] schestowitz__ maybe we should hand over all code to MS(GitHub) and let Google run out orgs [15:10] schestowitz__ debian, osi, fsf, fsfe [15:10] schestowitz__ because Google knows how to handle sexism [15:11] schestowitz__ like paying Andy Rubin $70,000,000 to keep quiet [15:11] schestowitz__ after he used his position to get blow jobs from his workers [15:11] schestowitz__ classy [15:11] schestowitz__ google [15:11] schestowitz__ nobody who works for google should lecture us on ethics [15:12] MinceR no crybully should [15:13] techrights-bot #lobbying disguised as 'journalism'; nobody asked about it except the litigation fanatics and #patent profiteers https://www.managingip.com/article/b1qtv11yy90f66/scotus-shouldnt-eliminate-assignor-estoppel-altogether [15:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | SCOTUS shouldnt eliminate assignor estoppel altogether | Managing Intellectual Property [15:15] schestowitz__ MinceR: they get paid [15:15] schestowitz__ to do it [15:15] schestowitz__ sometimes paid a lot [15:15] schestowitz__ to serve their corporate maste... never mind, I can't use that word anymore [15:15] schestowitz__ that's racism, it hurts black people... all slaves were black... in human history [15:15] MinceR some of them just get to feel good about being bigots and destroying other people's work [15:15] schestowitz__ and master as a word implies "owning a slave" [15:16] schestowitz__ MinceR: not a new phenomenon [15:16] *psydroid laughs at creating a fake account to point fingers at and wonders how low you must stoop to do something like that [15:16] schestowitz__ but if we're clever in handling them, they'll be shitcanned [15:16] schestowitz__ and won't have any power anymore [15:16] schestowitz__ nobody would want to hire those trolls anymore [15:16] schestowitz__ as they're perceived to be a massive PR liability [15:17] MinceR too bad meteors and red giants don't care about whether one feels good about themselves or how much they've prayed to their god -- if you don't have the technology and don't use it, you're going to go extinct [15:17] schestowitz__ from now on any time I mention Google I'll bring up how they employ trolls to libel the Free software coders [15:17] schestowitz__ and Google will not send more recruiters after me :-) [15:17] psydroid you must not to be quite alright to want to work for Google in the first place [15:17] schestowitz__ iBM stopped sending PR people to me last year [15:17] schestowitz__ I publish what they say or send [15:18] schestowitz__ so it only embarrasses them more [15:18] schestowitz__ psydroid: some people need Google for their "FART FART FART FART" [15:18] schestowitz__ http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/professional-troll.png [15:19] schestowitz__ I won't even ask mjg59 if that's some sexual reference [15:19] schestowitz__ as I assumed it was [15:20] psydroid looks like a person who is in urgent need of help [15:20] techrights-bot Why I work on #OpenShift and #Fedora / #RHEL https://blog.verbum.org/2021/03/05/why-i-work-on-openshift-and-fedora-rhel/ #ibm [15:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.verbum.org | Why I work on OpenShift and Fedora/RHEL Colin Walters [15:21] techrights-bot Fridays Fedora Facts: 2021-09 https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fridays-fedora-facts-2021-09/ #ibm #fedora #redhat [15:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | Friday's Fedora Facts: 2021-09 Fedora Community Blog [15:21] schestowitz__ psydroid: he thinks he needs money [15:21] schestowitz__ waste of life [15:21] schestowitz__ he could do something useful [15:22] schestowitz__ maybe in biology [15:22] psydroid schestowitz__: I am afraid he would be far more damaging if he pursued a career in biology [15:22] techrights-bot Operators over easy: an introduction to #Kubernetes Operators https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/operators-over-easy-introduction-kubernetes-operators #redhat #ibm [15:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Operators over easy: an introduction to Kubernetes Operators [15:22] psydroid so I prefer for him to pursue a career in trolling [15:23] schestowitz__ I am uploading a one-hour video at the moment [15:23] schestowitz__ it's about UPC [15:23] schestowitz__ some good news for a change :-) [15:24] schestowitz__ psydroid: good point [15:25] techrights-bot #ibm #redhat survey focuses on money and "open source" (mostly #openwashing corporate vendor lock-in these days) rather than #freesw but it's not all bad. https://www.infoworld.com/article/3609902/it-leaders-see-open-source-as-higher-quality.html [15:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-IT leaders see open source as higher quality | InfoWorld [15:27] techrights-bot Two major boosters of illegal #swpats which harm not only #freesw developers but all programmers all around the world. "With friends like these..." https://www.redhat.com/en/about/press-releases/siemens-ibm-red-hat-launch-hybrid-cloud-initiative-increase-real-time-value-industrial-iot-data http://techrights.org/2010/07/21/crackers-crack-siemens/ [15:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Siemens, IBM, Red Hat Launch Hybrid Cloud Initiative to Increase Real-time Value of Industrial IoT Data [15:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Siemens is Bad for Industry, Partly Due to Microsoft | Techrights [15:31] techrights-bot "The developer just announced it's going to release on March 18 with full #GNU #Linux support." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/03/political-strategy-game-rogue-state-revolution-gets-a-demo-and-a-release-date [15:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Political strategy game Rogue State Revolution gets a demo and a release date | GamingOnLinux [15:32] techrights-bot plus-x is a simple tool to help developers on Windows set Linux permissions for games | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/03/plus-x-is-a-simple-tool-to-help-developers-on-windows-set-linux-permissions-for-games #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games #Gaming [15:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-plus-x is a simple tool to help developers on Windows set Linux permissions for games | GamingOnLinux [15:33] schestowitz__ psydroid: would be interesting to know when he started coding [15:33] schestowitz__ probably very late [15:33] schestowitz__ and I'm not sure he's any good at it [15:33] schestowitz__ seeing that he worked on ANTI-security projects [15:33] schestowitz__ that pay well if you work for back doors companies [15:33] schestowitz__ they need incompetent techs [15:34] schestowitz__ if they accidentally introduce bugs [15:34] schestowitz__ then good [15:34] schestowitz__ bug doors [15:34] schestowitz__ less obvious than back doors [15:34] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/20032017 [15:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4449357) [15:34] schestowitz__ I never found security problems in programs I wrote. never. [15:35] techrights-bot "Need the absolute latest special fixes? The developer-focused #NVIDIA #Vulkan Beta Driver 455.50.10 has rolled out and it includes quite a few fixes - including some just for #Linux ." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/03/nvidia-vulkan-beta-driver-4555010-rolls-out-for-linux [15:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NVIDIA Vulkan Beta Driver 455.50.10 rolls out for Linux | GamingOnLinux [15:36] techrights-bot DROP ALL VARIABLES https://ircz.de/p/20032017 [15:36] schestowitz__ MinceR: ^ [15:37] schestowitz__ reminder: fsf award was granted when red hat and intel were PAYING the FSF [15:38] schestowitz__ after the FSF's founder had explicitly blasted UEFI 'secure' boot [15:39] MinceR :) [15:40] schestowitz__ the person who managed this money is now FSF Pres. [15:41] schestowitz__ treasurer [15:41] schestowitz__ http://techrights.org/2020/09/13/free-software-movement-sponsors/ [15:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | In Screenshots: Corporations That Sponsor the Free Software Movement Are Rarely Compatible With This Movements Vision/Objective | Techrights [15:42] MinceR just crybullies awarding crybullies, nothing to see there [15:42] schestowitz__ Intel+Red Hat: http://techrights.org/2020/07/30/uefi-secure-boot-award/ [15:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | UEFI Secure Boot is Just a Security Mess, as Techrights Predicted All Along, and FSF Should Not Have Given That Award | Techrights [15:42] schestowitz__ bad day for FSF [15:43] MinceR more like the end of FSF [15:43] schestowitz__ My Disagreement With the FSF Over UEFI Secure Boot (2014) http://techrights.org/2014/03/25/uefi-secure-boot-and-fsf/ [15:43] *psymin (~psymin@fsf/member/psymin) has joined #techrights [15:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | My Disagreement With the FSF Over UEFI Secure Boot | Techrights [15:43] MinceR destroyed by the corporate SJW army [15:43] schestowitz__ IBM was also a sponsor at times [15:43] schestowitz__ that causes issues [15:43] schestowitz__ like, they cannot criticise systemd [15:43] schestowitz__ or they won't pay able to pay some salaries [15:44] schestowitz__ top sponsor that year was the latest subsidiser of the troll [15:44] schestowitz__ Gulag Inc. [15:45] MinceR (cat) https://ircz.de/p/21021936 [15:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5253448) [15:45] schestowitz__ The companies where bosses get blow jobs from femalw workers [15:45] cybrNaut my problem with FSF is their refusal to give gitlab.com an accurate rating: https://www.gnu.org/software/repo-criteria-evaluation.html [15:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gnu.org | GNU Ethical Repository Criteria Evaluations - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation [15:48] techrights-bot #Openwashing as the Doom of "Open Source" as a Label http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148467#comment-28520 #redHat #IBM #microsoft [15:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines [15:49] MinceR didn't the OSI recently accept a non-open source license as open source? [15:50] techrights-bot Intel Tiger Lake Xe #Graphics On Linux 5.12 Git, Mesa 21.1-devel - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Tiger-Lake-Linux-5.12-Mesa-21.1 #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux [15:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Tiger Lake Xe Graphics On Linux 5.12 Git, Mesa 21.1-devel - Phoronix [15:52] techrights-bot #PyTorch 1.8 Release, including Compiler and Distributed Training updates, and New Mobile Tutorials https://pytorch.org/blog/pytorch-1.8-released/ #python [15:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pytorch.org | PyTorch 1.8 Release, including Compiler and Distributed Training updates, and New Mobile Tutorials | PyTorch [15:53] psydroid schestowitz__: I wouldn't expect too much, but most of the code from group members in the CS curriculum at university makes me cry too. A professor of mine in the physics department once mentioned that he had better experiences with physicists writing code than with computer scientists doing so. [15:56] techrights-bot #NVIDIA 470 Linux Driver http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148468 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NVIDIA 470 Linux Driver | Tux Machines [15:56] techrights-bot #IBM / #RedHat/ #Fedora Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148467 #GNU #Linux [15:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines [15:57] techrights-bot Games: Proton, #CrusaderKings III, Rogue State Revolution, and plus-x http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148466 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Proton, Crusader Kings III, Rogue State Revolution, and plus-x | Tux Machines [15:57] techrights-bot #QubesOS 4.0.4 has been released! http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148465 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Qubes OS 4.0.4 has been released! | Tux Machines [15:59] techrights-bot Ubuntu Blog: Code the future together using #Ubuntu https://ubuntu.com//blog/code-the-future-at-codemotion use #gnu #linux but for coding use another distro please... http://techrights.org/2021/02/15/cancel-canonical/ [15:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Code the future together using Ubuntu | Ubuntu [15:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Cancel Canonical? | Techrights [15:59] techrights-bot Jonathan Riddell: Updated Snaps for #KDE Apps https://jriddell.org/2021/03/05/updated-snaps-for-kde-apps/ #gnu #linux [15:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jriddell.org | Updated Snaps for KDE Apps Jonathan Riddell's Diary ● Mar 05 [16:01] techrights-bot Fourty [sic] https://popey.com/blog/2021/03/fourty-years-on/ [16:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-popey.com | Fourty Years On - Alan Pope's blog [16:05] techrights-bot #eqe is #epo #corruption but its boosters won't say that http://eqe-c.blogspot.com/2021/03/c-2020-first-impressions.html see for example techrights.org/2020/03/16/doyen-for-a-yen/ [16:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-eqe-c.blogspot.com | DeltaPatents : EQE-C [16:05] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/21022561 [16:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5271769) [16:06] techrights-bot Racist #ibm or its #lobby group is still assaulting all software developers, not just #freesw ones, by pushing for #swpats and other awful #patent policies https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/03/patent-reforms-owners.html [16:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | What Patent reforms are on the minds of IP Owners? [16:07] DaemonFC[m] Glad to see that the Iris Xe stuff is still coming along. [16:07] DaemonFC[m] It really is a much better graphics chip than their previous model. [16:10] techrights-bot #Ubuntu 21.04 To Offer #GNOME 40 Apps with GNOME 3.38 Desktop http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148419#comment-28521 #gnu #linux [16:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Looks Like Ubuntu 21.04 Will Offer a Hybrid GNOME 3.38 Desktop with GNOME 40 Apps | Tux Machines [16:10] techrights-bot #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148469 #Google #Linux #TuxMachines [16:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [16:12] techrights-bot Major backlash against #google #youtube in its very own platform https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxcdoWySvb8 Google is also bankrolling very malicious trolls http://techrights.org/2021/03/05/google-funded-trolls/ [16:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google's plans to continue surveillance advertising. - YouTube [16:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Professional Troll Matthew Garrett Spreads Libel, Defamation and Slander About the Free Software Community to Entertain Microsoft and Friends | Techrights [16:14] techrights-bot Don't Try Or Use Linux 5.12-rc1 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148441#comment-28522 #kernel #linux [16:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A warning about 5.12-rc1 | Tux Machines [16:16] techrights-bot #google makes it harder and more expensive to fork or branch off #chromium (same as #systemd tactics with rocky and very frequent releases by racist #ibm on criminals' platform, Microsoft GitHub) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148438#comment-28523 [16:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to un-google your Chromium browser experience | Tux Machines [16:19] schestowitz__ [15:49] didn't the OSI recently accept a non-open source license as open source? [16:20] schestowitz__ yes, and apologists funded by Google to troll defended the OSI [16:20] schestowitz__ Google hates copyleft [16:20] schestowitz__ loves the trolls who take over these institutions [16:20] schestowitz__ they are wek [16:20] schestowitz__ gullible [16:20] schestowitz__ easy to manipulate [16:20] MinceR then "open source" is about as dead as "free software" is since RMS claimed cancerd to be free software [16:20] schestowitz__ these people open the institutions wide to monopolists [16:20] schestowitz__ Zemlin is one of them btw [16:22] techrights-bot #QBittorrent Support For #BitTorrent 2.0 Is Looking Good http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148470 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [16:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | QBittorrent Support For BitTorrent 2.0 Is Looking Good | Tux Machines [16:23] schestowitz__ MinceR: RMS didn't wear an IBM badge when he said that [16:24] schestowitz__ IBM pays for words, not badge-wearing [16:24] schestowitz__ or ads/logos in FSF pages [16:24] schestowitz__ I hope we won't see a joint statement by IBM and FSF about how they fight racism [16:24] schestowitz__ LF did that [16:24] schestowitz__ weeks ago [16:24] schestowitz__ shows what LF became [16:25] schestowitz__ genocide whitewashers [16:25] schestowitz__ Zemlin is a German name [16:25] schestowitz__ so you could come up with jokes [16:28] techrights-bot #clownComputing means you got cracked and your data is compromised the moment you foolishly outsourced to to (see "Fappening") https://www.maketecheasier.com/data-leaks-found-android-and-ios-apps-stored-in-cloud/ [16:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | Data Leaks Found on Android and iOS Apps Stored in Cloud - Make Tech Easier [16:29] techrights-bot What Pythons new pattern matching can do for you | InfoWorld https://www.infoworld.com/article/3609208/what-pythons-new-pattern-matching-can-do-for-you.html #infoworld #programming #python [16:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What Pythons new pattern matching can do for you | InfoWorld [16:34] techrights-bot "Cloud Engineers" is a paradox; they're usually not engineers but people who swallow marketing, eschew sysadmin, and just outsource (or copy) to some #surveillance companies (using web GUI) https://www.makeuseof.com/top-linux-courses-for-developers-cloud-engineers-devops/ [16:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | The Top 5 Linux Courses for Developers, Cloud Engineers, and DevOps in 2021 [16:37] techrights-bot Reproducible Builds: #ReproducibleBuilds in February 2021 https://reproducible-builds.org/reports/2021-02/ #gnu #linux #security #freesw [16:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Reproducible Builds in February 2021 reproducible-builds.org [16:40] techrights-bot #GNUPoke 1.0 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148169#comment-28525 #gnu #freesw [16:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU Poke Reaches 1.0 | Tux Machines [16:42] MinceR https://full.pr0gramm.com/2021/02/19/a5d1a18ad5aa5688.jpg [16:46] techrights-bot Seems like a battle for monopolists, not the traditional work of #unifiedpatents against #fakepatents such as #swpats https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/3/4/unified-brands-aims-to-combat-counterfeiters [16:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | Unified Brands Aims to Combat Counterfeiters Unified Patents [16:47] techrights-bot "patent generally relates to a system of sensors to allow a driver to safely drive their vehicle while being able to use smart applications." SMAAAART applications. They just mean #swpats i.e. #fakePatents https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/3/5/3000-for-safe-driving-technologies-prior-art [16:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | $3,000 for Safe Driving Technologies prior art Unified Patents [16:50] techrights-bot "I created a new project so you can do this in seconds! One-click install and easily switch between these themes..." How often should one even boot? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAyzHP1Cqb0 [16:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bootloader Themes | Install & Configuration - YouTube [16:50] MinceR https://youtu.be/w0XGlXSW45Y?t=6 [16:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Simpsons-Am So Smart - YouTube [16:56] techrights-bot Security: Patches, #ReproducibleBuilds , Hijacking of Perls Site http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148471 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #Security [16:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: Patches, Reproducible Builds, Hijacking of Perl's Site | Tux Machines [16:56] techrights-bot 20 Years #FSFE : Interview with #ReinhardMller http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148472 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [16:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 20 Years FSFE: Interview with Reinhard Mller | Tux Machines [16:59] techrights-bot Shame on #youtube for pushing people to watch ads from #famousCriminal #billgates ... world's biggest polluter lecturing us on #climate to distract from his Big Crimes ● Mar 05 [17:01] techrights-bot #google , which employs trolls who attack the defenceless and the poor, is now taking money from #billgates to launder his reputation and distract form his strong links to people who traffic underage girls for sex http://techrights.org/2021/03/05/google-funded-trolls/ [17:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Professional Troll Matthew Garrett Spreads Libel, Defamation and Slander About the Free Software Community to Entertain Microsoft and Friends | Techrights [17:02] techrights-bot #google 2021: we also advertise for criminals. Would Google do ads for Capone and Hitler too? Of course. Good for shareholders... [17:03] MinceR (audio) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2021/02/19/0b5146c8d7a1935d.mp4 [17:03] schestowitz__ I stopped clicking on youtube urls [17:05] MinceR how do you copy them into a youtube-dl command without clicking? :> [17:05] psydroid I already mentioned last year that I was shown recaptcha crap for 24 hours when I dared importing my youtube playlists into newpipe [17:06] schestowitz__ I need to set that up [17:06] schestowitz__ I used to have GUIs for youtube-dl [17:07] psydroid for desktop GUIs I use QMPlay2 and Olivia (radio), unfortunately also hosted on Shithub [17:09] mjg59 schestowitz__: You realise that part of no longer working for Google means that Google don't give me money any more? [17:16] techrights-bot Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148473 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [17:17] techrights-bot #ytfzf - Search (With Thumbnails) And Play #YouTube Videos From A Terminal http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148474 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ytfzf - Search (With Thumbnails) And Play YouTube Videos From A Terminal | Tux Machines [17:19] techrights-bot Skullgirls: Annie goes up in Beta along with the Season Pass and a GNU/Linux support update | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/03/skullgirls-annie-goes-up-in-beta-along-with-the-season-pass-and-a-linux-support-update #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games #Gaming [17:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Skullgirls: Annie goes up in Beta along with the Season Pass and a Linux support update | GamingOnLinux [17:20] techrights-bot #Griftlands from Klei Entertainment to arrive on GNU/Linux in May, full launch this Summer | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/03/griftlands-from-klei-entertainment-to-arrive-on-linux-in-may-full-launch-this-summer #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games [17:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Griftlands from Klei Entertainment to arrive on Linux in May, full launch this Summer | GamingOnLinux [17:20] techrights-bot CaveExpress classic 2D platformer with physics-based gameplay https://www.linuxlinks.com/caveexpress-classic-2d-platformer/ #games #gnu #linux [17:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-CaveExpress - classic 2D platformer with physics-based gameplay - LinuxLinks [17:21] techrights-bot Arduino Blog - Time to get creative - the Arduino Day Community Challenge is coming https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/03/05/time-to-get-creative-the-arduino-day-community-challenge-is-coming/ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking [17:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Arduino Blog Time to get creative the Arduino Day Community Challenge is coming [17:23] MinceR https://img.pr0gramm.com/2021/02/19/89b1dc35baab937b.jpg [17:26] techrights-bot Devices for GNU/Linux and #Development http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148475 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Devices for GNU/Linux and Development | Tux Machines [17:27] techrights-bot German Decision on Unitary Patent/UPC Will Take Years (and It Doesnt Matter Because the Whole Thing is Dead Already) http://techrights.org/2021/03/05/unified-delay-of-doom/ #de #germany #upc #epo #unitarypatent [17:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | German Decision on Unitary Patent/UPC Will Take Years (and It Doesnt Matter Because the Whole Thing is Dead Already) | Techrights [17:28] schestowitz__ psydroid: yes, sometimes I forget to mention [17:28] schestowitz__ as many projects had been there for longer than the Microsoft takeover [17:39] DaemonFC[m] I'm getting in with the doctor today. Blood pressure has been sky high this week. Skipped the coffee this morning. [17:39] DaemonFC[m] It's helping a little I think. Still feels high, but not like I'm about to pop. THe urgent care said they wouldn't treat it and find a family doctor. [17:40] DaemonFC[m] I hate doctors. They're expensive. They run unnecessary tests to cover their own asses that cost you money. [17:41] DaemonFC[m] I think I saw something that said if you get a $60,000 hospital bill, like $4,000,-$5,000 of it is probably unnecessary tests they ran on you so they would be covered if they got sued. [17:43] DaemonFC[m] Now things have gotten so expensive that I'm getting in with a new doctor and he says "We bill you up front, but we'll submit it to your insurance and you have to wait to be paid back.". [17:43] DaemonFC[m] In other words, they don't want to wait for the payment and then chase people down for co-pays. [17:44] DaemonFC[m] If you don't get the co-pays from 3-5% of the patients and that was 20% of their bill... [17:44] MinceR (cat) https://ircz.de/p/21021765 [17:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5248393) [17:44] DaemonFC[m] I mean, this solves it on their end, but god.... [17:44] MinceR who ever cared about others' ends? [17:45] DaemonFC[m] I guess it works in my favor in one way though. I get a rebate check from the insurance company in several weeks. [17:45] DaemonFC[m] Plus, since the doctor was paid in full there's no way to get turned over to collections even if the insurance company rejects something. [17:45] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [17:45] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [17:45] schestowitz__ [17:39] I'm getting in with the doctor today. Blood pressure has been sky high this week. Skipped the coffee this morning. [17:45] schestowitz__ morning [17:46] schestowitz__ let me think what happened a week ago.. [17:46] schestowitz__ oh, I think I know [17:46] DaemonFC[m] Something happened something happened. [17:46] schestowitz__ did you sign papers for the jab experiment? [17:46] DaemonFC[m] Yep. I understand this is an experimental drug. blah blah blah [17:47] MinceR an experimental drug that has to be administered to as many people as possible, as quickly as possible [17:47] MinceR how curious [17:47] DaemonFC[m] Emergency Use Authorization. [17:48] DaemonFC[m] MinceR: Mandy laughed and said the Coronavirus was so horrible that it must have accidentally been brought back through the Stargate. [17:48] DaemonFC[m] And the government is covering it up. [17:48] MinceR prior plague? [17:48] DaemonFC[m] Or that thing that turned people into devolved primates. [17:48] MinceR how would we notice? [17:49] DaemonFC[m] Well, more violence I guess. [17:49] MinceR :> [17:49] DaemonFC[m] I mean not intelligent enough to use weapons even, except maybe clubs. [17:50] DaemonFC[m] I'm just going to get some blood pressure meds and I'll go back for my second dose. [17:50] DaemonFC[m] I'll keep an eye on the blood pressure every day at the machine at Walmart. [17:51] DaemonFC[m] MinceR: Mom keeps saying the vaccine put her boss in bed for three days each time. [17:51] DaemonFC[m] I said, "The same boss that had COVID right after she and her husband laughed that they didn't wear masks away from the facility?". [17:52] DaemonFC[m] She said, "Yes." so I said, "Well there's your problem. They had COVID already so their immune system immediately recognized the vaccine and fought off the spike protein violently.". [17:52] schestowitz__ ok, let's get back on topic [17:53] schestowitz__ quite a few people I know who took ViagraVaxx ended up in bed for days [17:53] schestowitz__ young people [17:53] schestowitz__ so "mom" isn't alone (her boss) [17:53] schestowitz__ bit I digress [17:53] schestowitz__ back to tech [17:53] schestowitz__ DaemonFC[m]: so today I decided to respond to the trolling [17:54] schestowitz__ which seems to revolve around changing the topic or provoking [17:54] schestowitz__ it's all very reminiscent of the RMS and LT "cancel" attempts [17:54] DaemonFC[m] Mom's getting the J&J one on the 26th. [17:54] schestowitz__ they create fake or phony scandals around "women" [17:54] schestowitz__ DaemonFC[m]: I don't know much about it, either [17:54] schestowitz__ leave that side, it's off topic [17:54] DaemonFC[m] She asked if I wanted to meet her to go to dinner. I said, "Can't. That's my second dose of the Pfizer one. It'd suck if we were both too sick to drive and 100 miles from home.". [17:54] schestowitz__ I just know it's less synthetic [17:54] schestowitz__ more "natural" [17:54] schestowitz__ however they define that [17:55] DaemonFC[m] How so? [17:55] schestowitz__ take each case in turn [17:55] DaemonFC[m] Garrett was concern trolling about trans women yesterday. [17:55] schestowitz__ it goes something like this [17:55] schestowitz__ not just yesterday [17:55] schestowitz__ but never mind the names [17:55] schestowitz__ let's discuss their methods [17:55] DaemonFC[m] I don't really care what they do. Not for me, but eh. [17:55] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [17:55] schestowitz__ it's a modus operandi techrights can, at the very elast explain [17:56] DaemonFC[m] Life's too short to worry about what someone else is doing to themselves. [17:56] schestowitz__ we're aboyt to release a 50-page paper about the "Rapsberry Spy" [17:56] schestowitz__ this is the kind of stuff that attracts the trolls [17:56] schestowitz__ to change the subject [17:56] schestowitz__ from "Rapsberry Spy" [17:56] schestowitz__ to something about genitals [17:56] DaemonFC[m] From what I gather, as long as you use Debian on it, the problem is solved, right? [17:56] schestowitz__ no [17:56] schestowitz__ raspbian [17:57] schestowitz__ aka raspberry pi OK [17:57] schestowitz__ (they renamed) [17:57] DaemonFC[m] Hardware is fine. Find a different distribution. [17:57] schestowitz__ they're typically putting that on the pi machines [17:57] schestowitz__ the SBC comes with uit [17:57] DaemonFC[m] The Raspbian OS is compromised. [17:57] schestowitz__ and then they push the Microsoft spy to any that will be compatible [17:57] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [17:57] schestowitz__ see raspbian.io [17:58] DaemonFC[m] I liked how they played it off like "We just thought this would be useful to our users!". [17:58] schestowitz__ https://raspbian.io/ [17:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Raspbian.io: A Copper GNU LUG project Raspbian Community Site [17:58] schestowitz__ " [17:58] schestowitz__ Raspbian Community - 02/2021 Warning! [17:58] schestowitz__ Microsoft Repos included in Raspberry Pi Foundation RPI OS! As first reported by Techrights. [17:58] schestowitz__ " [17:58] DaemonFC[m] Many of their users are not developers. It makes an okay cheap computer for general use. [17:58] schestowitz__ they at least give us credit! [17:58] schestowitz__ DaemonFC[m]: no, worse [17:58] schestowitz__ later they provoked twice in their blog [17:58] schestowitz__ preventing no scandal existed [17:58] schestowitz__ and let their official blog be written by Microsoft [17:59] schestowitz__ clearly Microsoft 'bought' them [17:59] schestowitz__ see e.g. http://techrights.org/2021/02/18/raspberry-pi-breaks-up-with-free-software-community/ [17:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Raspberry Pi Reaffirms Its Commitment to Microsoft (as Trojan Horse Inside Classrooms) and Abandons the Free Software Community | Techrights [17:59] schestowitz__ http://techrights.org/2021/02/13/raspberry-pi-making-things-worse/ [17:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | More Than a Fortnight After Installing Microsoft Surveillance and Keys on Millions of Computers Without Users Consent the Spin Comes From the Raspberry Pi Company (via Microsoft) | Techrights [17:59] schestowitz__ about their two blog posts [17:59] schestowitz__ more than a fortnight after injecting the spy [17:59] schestowitz__ [17:58] Many of their users are not developers. It makes an okay cheap computer for general use.\ [17:59] schestowitz__ wait [17:59] schestowitz__ you seem to be missing something [17:59] schestowitz__ who do you think RECOMMENDS these? ● Mar 05 [18:00] schestowitz__ to family? [18:00] schestowitz__ to schools? [18:00] schestowitz__ The geeks [18:00] schestowitz__ that's the key point [18:00] schestowitz__ they will no longer recommend it [18:00] DaemonFC[m] Yeah, the guy at Microcenter was asking me which Linux distribution to use on it. This was in 2016. [18:00] schestowitz__ there are other SBCs, some more powerful than the best "Rasps" [18:00] schestowitz__ a tad more expensuve [18:01] DaemonFC[m] I just said I don't know because I don't own one, but in general, Fedora was working alright on my laptop at the time, but that I thought they had an "official" distribution for the Pi based on Debian. [18:01] DaemonFC[m] Didn't know they were going this way or I wouldn't have even mentioned that. [18:01] MinceR and a tad more unsupported [18:01] DaemonFC[m] Fedora changed their Free Software guidelines to where non-Free repos can be included but must be disabled by default. [18:01] MinceR though rpi4 is also pretty much unsupported by everyone [18:01] DaemonFC[m] The user would have to flip them on individually. [18:02] DaemonFC[m] ARM just isn't going to catch on in the desktop/laptop market. [18:02] MinceR for example, to boot openbsd on a rpi4, they want you to install some uefi implementation on the microsd card, boot that, connect to it via serial terminal (via GPIO pins) and configure it to boot the OS [18:03] DaemonFC[m] Now Apple announced that they're getting rid of their x86 compatibility system "in certain regions" with the next update. [18:03] schestowitz__ DaemonFC[m]: I use arm on a laptop [18:03] DaemonFC[m] And that such software just won't work anymore on an M1 Mac there. [18:03] schestowitz__ That's Apple [18:03] schestowitz__ their customers are dummies with loans [18:03] DaemonFC[m] Maybe Intel found something to threaten them with, but it only applies in certain countries? [18:03] schestowitz__ they'll follow The Herd [18:03] schestowitz__ they have herd immunity to facts [18:04] DaemonFC[m] Don't worry what the computer costs. BarclayCard will finance it at 30%! [18:04] schestowitz__ worry later [18:04] MinceR herd mentality [18:04] MinceR as recommended by cheeto hitler [18:04] DaemonFC[m] "Don't worry about what it costs. We have financing!" is a sign to run away. [18:04] schestowitz__ it's not like a pandemic is sweeping over rand comingSoon(R) [18:05] schestowitz__ churches not reopening [18:05] schestowitz__ except the APple stores [18:05] schestowitz__ shrines [18:05] schestowitz__ your social status will increase [18:05] schestowitz__ say the ads [18:05] MinceR (no audio) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2021/02/28/9e7f5b50c984fa5c.mp4 [18:05] schestowitz__ just get the i[something][latest] [18:05] schestowitz__ "send from i[something][latest]" [18:05] schestowitz__ *sent [18:05] DaemonFC[m] The insurance fraud lady blacklisted Mandy from buying life insurance with anyone who checks MIB and banned Maricel from being a beneficiary on someone's policy. [18:05] schestowitz__ and the recipient will envy your stupidity [18:06] DaemonFC[m] She said they found others with her on them and terminated the policies. [18:06] DaemonFC[m] This is too funny. Who knows how much money she paid to have the policies terminated because she committed the fraud on us. [18:06] schestowitz__ she is bad neighbour [18:06] schestowitz__ in the association sense [18:06] DaemonFC[m] But the lady asked whether we owned an iPhone XS. [18:06] schestowitz__ she'd do photo ops in Epstein's apartment too [18:06] DaemonFC[m] I said, "No. Why?" She said, "That's the device that was used to buy the policy.". [18:06] schestowitz__ with Nikolic in the background [18:07] schestowitz__ what's XS? [18:07] schestowitz__ 10 something? [18:07] DaemonFC[m] 12 [18:07] schestowitz__ X small brain? [18:07] schestowitz__ XXXSmall brain [18:18] MinceR anyone who breaks into crApple's systems having XS to your private photos, that's what [18:26] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [18:26] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [18:40] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [18:40] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [18:46] *rianne_ has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [18:46] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [18:55] *rianne_ has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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[19:16] *liberty_box has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [19:30] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [19:30] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [19:34] *inky (~inky@141.136.79.40) has joined #techrights [19:48] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [19:49] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) ● Mar 05 [20:04] MinceR https://files.explosm.net/comics/Rob/sticksandstones.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/986/ ) [20:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cyanide & Happiness (Explosm.net) [20:19] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [20:19] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [20:23] DaemonFC[m] An XS of financed phone. [20:24] DaemonFC[m] If I can't afford to hand over cash for the phone I don't buy it. [20:24] DaemonFC[m] It limits you to what you're willing to spend. [20:25] DaemonFC[m] It's not 24 payments of $60. [20:25] DaemonFC[m] It's okay well this one is $400 and it does everything that other one does and it's $1,200 cheaper. $1,320 in fact when you figure in tax. [20:26] DaemonFC[m] That's three payments on a car so "it has a nicer camera". [20:26] DaemonFC[m] A month and a half of rent. [20:31] Ariadne in my case, i was able to get an iphone 11 on clearance for $700 [20:32] Ariadne and in the absence of a viable free software phone (android does not count), i decided i was tired of having subsidized phones that spy on me [20:32] Ariadne for whatever flaws the iphone has, it hasn't asked me to clarify if i visited a sex shop or not. the last android one did. [20:49] *koo5 has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [20:54] *koo5 (~koo5@37-48-28-155.nat.epc.tmcz.cz) has joined #techrights ● Mar 05 [21:15] *rianne_ has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [21:16] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [21:21] DaemonFC[m] I got the Galaxy S20 FE new for $400. [21:21] DaemonFC[m] It's much more capable than many flagships I've used. [21:22] DaemonFC[m] Samsung put my S8+ on quarterly high severity CVE roll ups. [21:24] psydroid even midrange phones are quite capable nowadays, it's just a shame that they ship with Google's (or Apple's) spyware and are more strictly locked down [21:36] *davisr (~davisr@cpe-70-92-166-130.wi.res.rr.com) has joined #techrights ● Mar 05 [22:00] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [22:01] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [22:01] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [22:03] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [22:09] CrystalMath Ariadne: my nokia 3310 never asked this [22:10] CrystalMath Ariadne: but why not a librem? [22:45] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz points out that even with low interest, home loans are a dicey gamble. Best case I'd own it when I was 67. Worst case, one of us loses our income, gets foreclosed on, and the bank sells it and sues over the deficiency. It's indentured servitude for a place to live. Then there's property taxes and more insurance payments. [22:46] DaemonFC[m] You have to protect the bank's investment by insuring it with hundreds more each month in your money. Then if you ever use it because something happened to the house or someone gets injured on your property, your rates shoot up and you might lose the house. [22:46] DaemonFC[m] The insurance company uses CLUE. [22:47] DaemonFC[m] So if the repair is only going to be a few thousand dollars, sometimes people pay to fix it themselves to avoid a rate hike that costs them double that. ● Mar 05 [23:39] *koo5 has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [23:47] schestowitz__ 'Micro' https://www.iottechtrends.com/can-microgrids-solve-the-impact-of-severe-weather-on-energy-grid/ [23:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iottechtrends.com | Can Microgrids Solve The Impact of Severe Weather On The Energy Grid? - IoT Tech Trends [23:48] *genr8_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [23:51] schestowitz__ DaemonFC[m]: sounds like fun! [23:51] schestowitz__ for them anyway...