●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, April 05, 2022 ●● ● Apr 05 [00:00] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:00] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:04] bnchs stabler internet [00:04] bnchs at least i don't get 145 KB/s download speed and then downward slope [00:06] immibis do people who talk abotu social credit systems realize there's already a social credit system, called money? [00:06] matey immibis: fair point, but cash and credit work A BIT differently as you may have heard [00:07] matey and social credit is even a bit weirder than "normal" credit [00:07] matey i mean with one, you dont have a job, you cant buy a car [00:08] matey with another, you say the wrong thing on a private phone call, you cant pay the mortgage. [00:08] matey the concerns arent identical. [00:09] immibis matey: lots of people get money by saying things. example: tucker carlson. If he says the wrong thing on a private phone call, he can't pay the mortgage. [00:09] matey im going to give you some time to figure out the difference. [00:10] matey also, if he says the wrong thing, they dont SUBTRACT from his existing balance [00:10] matey unless he REALLY says the wrong fucking thing [00:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [00:10] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 37.76 k/sec., IPFS upstream 90.66 average k/sec., average swarm size 596.01 [00:10] matey thats different from every word... i mean, you want to conflate, okay [00:10] matey but so do a lot of people im sure you cant stand, for their attitude towards logic [00:11] matey this is definitely a quantity becomes a quality distinction [00:13] matey like a drop of water isnt a flood, its a completely different thing [00:14] matey even a glass of water could carry away a car-- but probably not in the same way that a flood likely would [00:14] matey because a glass of water isnt a flood [00:17] *immibis has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [00:18] *immibis (~hexchat@62.156.144.218) has joined #techrights [00:19] matey on the other hand, if money really is the same thing, we should probably get rid of it. [00:19] psydruid https://www.army.mil/article/249241/armys_powerful_open_source_solid_modeling_system_undergoes_modernization [00:19] matey for the same reasons we shouldnt have a social credit rating [00:19] TR Bot Armys powerful open source solid modeling system undergoes modernization | Article | The United States Army [00:19] matey i thought open source was ethical [00:20] psydruid (because it actually grew out of the army) [00:20] matey close enough [00:20] psydruid migrating to Github, though ... [00:21] matey i mean programming languages grew out of the navy [00:22] matey this is a blazing oversimplification [00:22] matey but a fun one [00:25] activelow unix and C were born in Bell Labs [00:31] matey unix and C were born in Bell Labs <- a bit later though [00:31] matey 10 to 20 years [00:31] matey i mean basic goes back to 1963/64 [00:32] matey from dartmouth [00:32] matey and it came with its own timesharing system (which predates unix) [00:32] matey granted it wasnt as good as unix [00:32] matey but one would hope that in the 70s they could make a better timesharing system than the one a few people put together in 1963/64 [00:33] chunky UNIX FUCKED MY MOM [00:33] matey the dtss was built on a couple of ge systems [00:33] matey and ge was involved with multics. along with bell labs [00:33] matey but im not sure how much direct involvement ge had with dtss, possibly none (other than providing equipment) [00:34] matey UNIX FUCKED MY MOM <- with what? [00:34] activelow Basic programming, i think it is still useful, to learn and start with, particularly if the relation of BASIC language construcsts with ASM/machine language is covered [00:34] chunky touch, fsck, etc [00:34] matey fair enough [00:35] MinceR lol [00:35] activelow and i appreciate, "programming z80" book didn't require any update in almost 40years [00:35] matey of course in the 1960s i dont think basic had any connection to those things [00:35] matey but in the 80s, when you had basic on so many chips in 8-bit machines [00:35] matey then you had peek and poke, and you could do all kinds of cool shit [00:35] matey unfortunately the move to 16 bit made this a bit less fun [00:36] matey and a bit more difficult to learn at an early age [00:36] activelow z80 was 16bit address space already [00:36] matey i didnt know that [00:36] matey but on 8 bit machines, peek and poke were trivial and anyone could use them [00:36] bnchs chunky: i'm gonna touch, fsck, unzip your mom [00:36] chunky in that order? [00:36] matey particularly the c64 and bbc micro made it easy [00:36] bnchs i'm gonna chown her [00:37] matey /me cant believe libera chat hasnt banned their own instance of #techrights by now, just for what goes on in this one [00:37] matey maybe theyre not following their own rules [00:37] activelow techrights is bridged to libera? didn't know that. [00:37] bnchs >banning for off-network chat [00:37] bnchs woah there [00:37] matey bnchs: its the sjw way! [00:38] matey activelow: it used to be, i dont think it is anymore (if it is, its difficult to tell) [00:38] *aggi (~aggi@ipbcc2cf05.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) has joined #techrights [00:38] bnchs no its not [00:39] matey someone started #techrights there and it was sort of like an effigy of this one for people to shit on (in practice) [00:39] *aggi (~browser@joseon-tqa.a74.cufafo.IP) has joined #techrights [00:39] matey someone had the less-than-terrible-in-general idea of bridging them [00:39] matey and eventually it became clear that no good would ever come of that [00:40] matey and i dont know when it was officially done away with, but here we are [00:40] activelow seems freenode/leenode isn't bridged [00:40] bnchs lol [00:41] bnchs it probably got k-lined by now [00:41] bnchs by whatever daemonfc has been spouting out [00:41] *aggi (~browser@joseon-tqa.a74.cufafo.IP) has left #techrights ("Leaving") [00:43] matey dfc is good for one thing, if sjws ever try to take over here he would probably cause them to burst into flames [00:43] bnchs yeah [00:44] matey many years ago, like maybe 15ish years ago, i was pretty much an sjw [00:44] matey or on that path at least [00:44] matey i was like, these projects are too fucking racist. other than that, theyre great [00:44] matey but you cant really do anything about that, except what sjws do [00:45] matey even then i thought "openrespect" was a bunch of crap-- corporate bullshit that thinks you can be "racist against canonical" or something [00:45] matey i ended up swinging libertarian as i moved from open source to free software though [00:46] matey plus i saw what happened when more than a couple of people tried to thought police software projects [00:46] bnchs i hope you didn't fall for the double standard "racism" sjws have [00:46] matey i mean my concept of justice was always for everyone with no exceptions [00:47] matey so reverse racism was just racism. [00:47] matey and i wasnt (to my knowledge) joining a group of idiots when i was an sjw. i was sort of ahead of most of them [00:48] matey when that shit started actually catching on, i didnt think it was helping. [00:48] matey nor can i take credit (thankfully) for it catching on. [00:48] matey it was a bad idea then, and a worse idea now [00:49] matey of course people shouldnt be racist, obviously [00:49] matey but people are, a bit-- and its not always because youre a shitty person [00:49] matey it really depends on too many things to make a zero tolerance policy for it [00:49] matey and i dont recall ever being in favour of zero tolerance policies [00:50] matey which seem to the favourite solution of sjws for everything [00:50] matey cleverly disguised as a system of warnings and exceptions, until someone gets on the naughty list for-- whatever [00:50] matey it lends itself to zero tolerance policies and turns into those very quickly. [00:51] matey my favourite part is the history rewriting after the fact [00:51] matey linus was never cancelled. rms was never cancelled (people on both sides say this!) [00:51] matey i seem to recall he was. [00:51] bnchs linus was never cancelled [00:51] matey also there are four lights. [00:51] bnchs he just submitted to the corporations [00:52] matey he just submitted to the corporations <- there was a bit more to it than that [00:52] matey also he submitted to corporations before he was cancelled [00:52] matey just not enough for someones taste [00:55] psydruid Linus doesn't measure up to Greg when it comes to selling out [00:55] psydruid Greg is a far better salesman [00:55] matey Linus doesn't measure up to Greg when it comes to selling out <- this is completely true [00:56] matey credit where credit is due, linus is a shill and imo a douchebag [00:56] matey but hes not grekh [00:56] matey gregkh [00:56] matey greg is all about being a team player [00:57] matey the team being google, apple, microsoft, amazon, facebook and ibm-- and their serfs [00:57] matey with linus there was pushback at least (for most of his career) [00:57] matey but now hes mostly a good boy-- at least whenever it counts [00:58] matey so greg can pick up where he left off, in terms of selling out [00:58] matey greg, NOT tso [00:58] matey tso isnt well behaved enough [00:58] matey and linus probably wont say anything [00:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 39.71 k/sec., IPFS upstream 66.13 average k/sec., average swarm size 268.80 [00:59] activelow in the beginning, lt had given a talk, presenting his kernel... keep it simple he said, often [00:59] matey still there are utter fantasies about linus kicking the door in, grabbing his trademark and saying "fuck you guys, laters!" [00:59] activelow have a look, at kernel, compiler, how simple those are [00:59] matey linus isnt a renegade, he just plays one on the internet ● Apr 05 [01:00] matey borrowing the mantle of someone who actually stood up to giants [01:00] matey but linus is still less of a shill than gregkh [01:00] matey or if greg isnt a shill... hes at least a puppet [01:01] matey like the ones the first world installs in leadership positions in other countries [01:01] matey while calling it "democracy" [01:01] matey usually that sort of thing is called empire, but kingoffrance has their number [01:02] matey linux is a corporate empire [01:02] matey counterrevolution os [01:02] matey roy says its a dumping ground for code no one wants [01:03] matey here, have some low-grade 1s and 0s [01:03] matey they fell off a truck, but some are still good [01:03] psydruid it's good that such a dumping ground exists [01:04] matey its bad that the fsf wants everyone to copy it [01:04] psydruid if we want to run it is another matter [01:04] matey there isnt even a gnu project anymore [01:04] matey its the gnu/linux project now [01:04] psydruid I prefer to have just one such dumping ground, so I know what to avoid [01:04] matey the lignux project [01:05] psydruid if everything becomes a dumping ground, we are truly lost [01:05] matey indeed [01:05] bnchs liGNUx? [01:05] matey but if you look at the world itself-- thats what these companies think [01:05] bnchs or lunix [01:05] bnchs lgnuix? [01:05] matey the whole world (minus their backyards) are a dumping ground [01:05] matey theres a story behing lignux [01:06] matey rms was really adamant about not having linux co-opt the gnu project entirely (the fact that it has is another way to tell hes not in charge anymore) [01:06] matey so he settled on gnu/linux but he proposed a number of compromises [01:06] matey including "lignux" [01:07] matey i happen to think gnu/linux sounds a lot less horrible, but lignux is easier to type [01:07] psydruid it's more like linux/g emulating wsl/g now [01:08] *Guest6697 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [01:08] matey pairing gnu with the openbsd kernel would actually help give it its identity back [01:08] matey compared to its forced marriage with open source. [01:08] matey they never even loved each other [01:08] bnchs openbsd kernel? [01:08] bnchs hahahaha [01:08] bnchs it would like pissing off openbsd community [01:08] bnchs relicensing their kernel under GPL [01:09] matey yes, de raadt would probably release the "murder hornets" [01:09] activelow *BSD always used GNU compiler [01:09] bnchs and then [01:09] matey but all is fair in love and war [01:09] bnchs well i don't know [01:09] bnchs whatever ^C [01:09] matey *BSD always used GNU compiler <- couldnt have, bsd predates gcc [01:09] matey bsd: 70s [01:09] matey gnu: 80s [01:10] matey linux: 90s [01:10] activelow *BSD always used GNU compiler since it existed [01:10] matey fair enough [01:10] activelow bsd: 90s [01:11] bnchs yeah [01:11] bnchs i'm pretty sure the playstation devkit used GNU compiler up to PS3 [01:12] bnchs then they switched to LLVM/clang [01:12] matey 2.9bsd becomes the first version of bsd that is a full operating system rather than a set of applications and patches <- 1983, same year rms announced the gnu project [01:12] matey x10r3 (the predecessor of x11) becomes the first freely redistributable x release <- 1986 [01:13] psydruid > but all is fair in love and war [01:13] psydruid my instant reaction is to think of Tolstoy's war and peace [01:13] matey 4.4bsd-lite is a freely-distributable version of bsd following the settlement of the at&t lawsuit <- 1994 [01:13] *tayy has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [01:14] matey never read tolstoy. i love dostoyevsky, but i only read his shorter stuff [01:14] *bnchs__ (~bnchs@kq2ig3h6pftku.irc) has joined #techrights [01:14] matey i seem to really enjoy english when its translated from russian [01:14] MinceR peacekeeping and peace [01:14] psydruid never did so either, but I remember my French teacher telling me about it [01:14] matey special military operations and peace [01:14] MinceR + [01:15] *tayy (~tayy@ns502531.ip-142-4-214.net) has joined #techrights [01:15] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:15] matey actually wasnt that thing with the ZZZ saying that was is peace? [01:16] bnchs__ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=5cEunr8hPE0 [01:16] TR Bot Back to Go, Rust is Slow (in Ways That Matter to the Most People) - Invidious [01:16] matey war is peace ^ [01:16] bnchs__ "People are now writing formal academic papers debunking Rust's lies about safety and the rest. The more I learn about how shitty and dishonest Rust is (and its community) the more motivated I am to look at C and C++ (again) and the more I'm not just ambivalent about Rust, I'm actively advocating against it. Rust is fucking bad for the world. There are still *zero* significant projects in Rust while there are now hundreds in Go including [01:16] bnchs__ Kubernetes, Docker and the entire cloud native ecosystem. Rust is a fail. Die, die, die. Learn it and watch your career die with it." [01:16] bnchs__ you know he's spiting out the truth [01:16] matey rust isnt a programming language, its a webapi in a programming language costume [01:16] bnchs__ rust was, is, and will always be a memelang [01:16] bnchs__ with no real value [01:17] matey same with python 3-- its a webapi posing as a language [01:17] bnchs__ you will be glad if the borrow checker doesn't prevent you from writting something useful [01:17] bnchs__ and the unstable specifications making your source code last a week [01:17] matey python is going to get worse. they swear it wont, thats how you know its already planned [01:18] activelow what was wrong with python2 to justify the python3 move? [01:18] bnchs__ rust brainwashers like to tell you that memory management is rocket scienece [01:18] bnchs__ no you should use their memelang [01:18] matey i believe kingoffrance (forgive me if im wrong) says "the language is the specification" is no better than "the law is the spirit of the law" [01:18] bnchs__ struggle with their borrow checker [01:18] activelow the parallel of python2 and python3 for almost a decade was very annoying [01:18] matey as someone who wrote a language as a specification, i dont entirely agree [01:18] bnchs__ then you'll end up with a more bloated, slower and less usable program [01:18] matey but that language has been stable as fuck since about 2016. [01:19] matey and generally when people say the language is the specification-- they mean its subject to change, not stable [01:19] *alextee has quit (Quit: Leaving) [01:20] activelow Golang belongs into the same basket of foul apples as Rustlang and C++ [01:20] bnchs__ rust is nothing but a memelang [01:20] bnchs__ a toylang [01:20] matey Golang belongs into the same basket of foul apples as Rustlang and C++ <- problem with golang is its endorsed by one of the original creators of c [01:20] bnchs__ no useful programs have been written for it [01:20] matey ipfs and some gemini stuff. [01:21] bnchs__ yes [01:21] matey in golang. other than that i agree. [01:21] bnchs__ and it mostly gets its way by being a mobgang [01:21] bnchs__ harassing people until they rewrite [01:21] matey like python 3 [01:21] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [01:22] matey python, as python 2, is nearly my favourite language of all time [01:22] matey id rather use a different language than use python 3. ive used python 3. [01:22] activelow "programming z80" didn't require any update in 40years [01:22] matey https://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/blogs/lxo/pub/new-dawn.en.html [01:22] TR Bot ::[FSFLA]:: A New Dawn for Software Freedom [01:23] matey id rather have a z80 cluster than a z80 [01:23] matey a z80 cluster would be neat. [01:24] matey give me a z80 cluster the size of an adult human, and ill learn how to use it for something [01:24] matey i imagine it would heat the place up a little, but at least they arent pentiums [01:25] matey any larger and it would be too much trouble to own. any smaller, and what am i going to use it for [01:27] matey of course im not a hardware person, so im sure there are people here who can talk scale with a better idea what theyre talking about [01:27] matey i mean i did have a timex sinclair once [01:28] matey and i learned to code on an 8088 [01:29] activelow i would rather waste my precious time with the altair basic paper tape than with Golang or rust [01:30] matey the altair basic paper tape <- i mean, thats like the 8-bit version of github [01:30] matey ive already been there [01:31] activelow 4KiB, punched holes into paper [01:31] activelow anyone can decipher this? [01:31] activelow is it documented? [01:32] matey is it documented? <- you can still buy an altair [01:32] matey and theres probably an emulator [01:33] matey of course goland and rust are also based on github [01:33] activelow i mean, nowadays, there isn't any free and opensource VT100 terminal with PS/2 and VGA remaining, both hardware and software. [01:33] matey golang [01:34] activelow with gentoo the golang components are fetched from github [01:34] activelow the distfile folders are awful [01:34] activelow i blacklisted to rsync this [01:34] activelow for the reason alone, how the distfile folders look like, with golang crap inside [01:35] activelow i'll _never_ accept any single golang dependency with BaphometOS [01:36] matey This Altair kit is functionally and in most ways physically identical to the original Altair 8800 Computer. http://altairkit.com/ [01:36] TR Bot to AltairKit.com! [01:37] matey "Restored Altair 8800 Construction Manual, Technical Manual, Operators Manual" [01:37] activelow i think i'll continue with "programming z80", not because i prefer z80, because the book wasn't altered in 40years [01:37] matey simh is an altair 8800 emulator, naturally its based on github [01:38] *bnchs__ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:39] AdmFubar1 https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/04/comcast-wanted-man-to-pay-19000-even-though-his-neighbor-already-had-service/ [01:39] TR Bot Comcast wanted man to pay $19,000 after falsely advertising service on his street | Ars Technica [01:39] matey but is that with no bandwidth caps? [01:39] matey i mean, this is comcast we are talking about [01:40] matey when he complained they tried to talk him down to 12000 for the next 2 years, to go up to 19000 afterwards [01:42] *bnchs (~bnchs@4iixzia2gcets.irc) has joined #techrights [01:42] *bnchs has quit (connection closed) [01:42] *bnchs (~bnchs@4iixzia2gcets.irc) has joined #techrights [01:43] AdmFubar1 laughs that matey hasn't read the article [01:45] matey oh it could be 19000 or 190, what do i care [01:45] matey comcast is never going to be a good company [01:45] matey and no, i tend to skip arsetechnica [01:46] matey its not a real website anymore. they should sell it to whoever owns aol and be done with it [01:46] matey i dont understand your fascination with it [01:46] matey as nearly every link you post is from there [01:47] matey or seems to be [01:50] AdmFubar1 I'd say get your eyes checked [01:51] matey id say dont be a cunt, but its too late for that [01:51] matey have fun working for arsetech [01:52] matey maybe you can go work for lf afterwards [01:52] *matey has quit (connection closed) [01:52] MinceR the show ended early :> [01:53] *matey (~matey@3epy783jsvpvq.irc) has joined #techrights [01:53] matey spamfilter updated [01:53] MinceR round 2 [01:53] matey nope [01:53] matey fuck that guy [01:53] MinceR :) [01:54] matey id rather hear about mandys colonoscopy [01:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 22.88 k/sec., IPFS upstream 69.88 average k/sec., average swarm size 440.40 ● Apr 05 [02:07] *bnchs__ (~bnchs@4iixzia2gcets.irc) has joined #techrights [02:09] *bnchs has quit (Quit: Leaving) [02:10] psydruid and not on arsetech, but straight from the source [02:13] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [02:14] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techrights [02:17] DaemonFC Well, iPhones let you send Facetime links to Android users. [02:17] DaemonFC But when you open them on Android, it says you need Chrome or Microsoft Edge. [02:28] DaemonFC "Prior to this new law, Colorado didnt have any gestational restrictions on abortions, but it didnt have any guarantees, either. While this act will change that, it doesnt remove all of the restrictions such as the ban on the state funding of abortions. That means a person will be guaranteed the right to choose whether to get an abortion or not, but it doesnt mean it will be covered by their state insurance." [02:28] DaemonFC That's probably the one thing you can put on a credit card and still be financially better off even if you have to make minimum payments. [02:32] matey straight from the source <- actually i prefer to hear about mandys arse AT LEAST second-hand [02:32] matey if not further removed [02:37] TR News Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. 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HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-040422.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-040422.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-040422.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-040422.txt [02:39] TR Bot IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, April 04, 2022 [02:39] matey sometimes the stars and planets and hearts and green clovers and purple horseshoes align, and you get a law with reasonable terms [02:40] matey or a sugary breakfast cereal, but definitely one of the two [02:40] TR News Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. 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TotalIn: 26 GB TotalOut: 5.5 GB [03:06] IPFS New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled. [03:08] IPFS QmPA9baiheMyYvoirRpVxfonAnbATaW9SCDexu9yzCdwpR [03:08] IPFS New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above. [03:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (connection closed) [03:30] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [03:48] *mimorek has quit (connection closed) [03:52] *matey has quit (connection closed) [03:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 23.25 k/sec., IPFS upstream 115.81 average k/sec., average swarm size 446.21 ● Apr 05 [04:03] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [04:15] *gooseheaded has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:17] DaemonFC The state must have left their version of the Hyde Amendment because it had too many "moderate" Democrats to remove it and have the bill pass. [04:22] *leah has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:22] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #techrights [04:25] *jkl (~jkl@freenode/user/jkl) has joined #techrights [04:30] *gde33 has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [04:50] DaemonFC "Previously Firefox for macOS and Linux would download temporary files to a user-specific directory in /tmp, but this behavior was changed to download them to /tmp where they could be affected by other local users. This behavior was reverted to the original, user-specific directory. [04:50] DaemonFC This bug only affects Firefox for macOS and Linux." [04:50] DaemonFC Brilliant. Introducing obvious security vulnerabilities. [04:53] *gde33 (~gde33@84-106-154-98.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) has joined #techrights [04:54] *kingoffrance (~xxx@4mmu4fx6g3jvs.irc) has joined #techrights [04:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 30.85 k/sec., IPFS upstream 107.75 average k/sec., average swarm size 338.06 ● Apr 05 [05:02] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving) [05:16] *Skywave has quit (connection closed) [05:17] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@bmnz78x6ukm46.irc) has joined #techrights [05:29] activelow given gcc-4.7 supports c++98 this will be the demarcation line of what is acceptable outside the c-only base-system of BaphometOS [05:30] activelow the reasoning is this, i am not willing to dependency track and maintain a himalaya mountain amount of components anyway [05:31] activelow nonetheless, libreoffice, boost library, codeblocks ide etc. are useful occasionally, simply because office document format is common [05:33] activelow i'll dig into the archives, and see which is the last libreoffice version, for example, which compiles with gcc-4.7/g++, and keep those packages [05:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 18.50 k/sec., IPFS upstream 66.45 average k/sec., average swarm size 343.21 ● Apr 05 [06:33] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@2kawi7k2inqgg.irc) has joined #techrights [06:54] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [06:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.30 k/sec., IPFS upstream 61.68 average k/sec., average swarm size 258.16 ● Apr 05 [07:14] TR News #Techrights Bulletin for Monday, April 04, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [07:14] TR Bot Bulletin Archives [07:14] TR News #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [07:14] TR Bot Techrights Full IPFS Index [07:21] schestowitz-TR [00:37] /me cant believe libera chat hasnt banned their own instance of #techrights by now, just for what goes on in this one [07:21] schestowitz-TR fuchs did monitor that channel at one point [07:21] schestowitz-TR buf not for the reason you might imagine [07:21] schestowitz-TR I believe he was trying to actually shield is [07:21] schestowitz-TR *us [07:22] schestowitz-TR from people looking to abuse [07:22] schestowitz -glguy/Wallops- Hi libera users. We've got a bit of weekly maintenance to do. The servers lithium and molybdenum will be restarting shortly for software updates. [07:23] schestowitz last activity there: [07:23] schestowitz hey, uh, i dont suppose the techrights guy/team have assembled a team to take over joindiaspora have they? & [07:29] TR News "Hello! I'm Amin Bandali, and starting this month I'm taking over the GNU Spotlight from my fellow GNU hacker and free software activist Mike Gerwitz. Mike, thank you so much for all your work over the past four years for curating and preparing the monthly GNU Spotlight" https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/march-gnu-spotlight-with-amin-bandali-eleven-new-gnu-releases [07:29] TR Bot March GNU Spotlight with Amin Bandali: Eleven new GNU releases! Free Software Foundation Working together for free software [07:29] TR News Antitrust Day: Tech monopolies shouldnt be allowed to control app stores Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163362 [07:29] TR Bot Antitrust Day: Tech monopolies shouldn't be allowed to control app stores | Tux Machines [07:34] TR News "Welcome to the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter, Issue 729 for the week of March 27 April 2, 2022." https://ubuntu-news.org/2022/04/04/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-729/ [07:34] TR Bot Ubuntu Fridge | Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 729 [07:41] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [07:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.68 k/sec., IPFS upstream 108.38 average k/sec., average swarm size 398.08 ● Apr 05 [08:56] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [08:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 36.50 k/sec., IPFS upstream 121.30 average k/sec., average swarm size 380.91 ● Apr 05 [09:01] *ziraffep has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:09] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@sctsjmg96zkru.irc) has joined #techrights [09:27] *darwin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [09:29] *ziraffep has quit (Quit) [09:33] TR News "The title of this post sounds like someone from the 1990s observing VCR distortion" https://rubenerd.com/track-skipping-from-ripped-cds/ [09:33] TR Bot Track skipping from ripped CDs [09:33] TR News "This past week was truly one for the blooper reel." https://bsdly.blogspot.com/2022/04/spammers-in-public-cloud-protected-by.html [09:33] TR Bot That grumpy BSD guy: Spammers in the Public Cloud, Protected by SPF; Intensified Password Groping Still Ongoing; Spamware Hawked to Spamtraps [09:34] TR News "Fantasian is an Apple Arcade exclusive Final Fantasy style RPG. I liked it." https://flak.tedunangst.com/post/Fantasian [09:34] TR Bot Fantasian [09:35] *gooseheaded has quit (Quit: Leaving) [09:37] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@9tz2vzpr3cd26.irc) has joined #techrights [09:40] TR News "This isnt the first time weve seen a juxtaposition of high-tech lighting over low-tech visuals" https://www.pcworld.com/article/629145/hellfire-never-looked-so-good-original-doom-gets-ray-tracing-mod.html [09:40] TR Bot years later, classic Doom just got a stunning ray tracing mod | PCWorld [09:40] TR News "Its Monday, and Valve has sent its next weekly batch of Steam Deck order emails to people who have reserved one of the coveted handheld gaming PCs" https://www.theverge.com/2022/4/4/23010130/valve-steam-deck-shipments-order-emails [09:40] TR Bot Valve says its ramping up Steam Deck shipments - The Verge [09:46] TR News Top 6 apps to read and organize comic books on Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163363 [09:46] TR Bot Top 6 apps to read and organize comic books on Linux | Tux Machines [09:47] TR News "A Linux distribution cannot normally provide any kind of long term support for any kind of third party software if such software is no longer supported" https://unixsheikh.com/articles/linux-distribution-long-term-support-might-not-be-what-you-think-it-is.html [09:47] TR Bot Linux distribution long term support might not be what you think it is [09:47] TR News Heres What Devs Are Planning for GNOME 43 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163364 [09:47] TR Bot Here's What Devs Are Planning for GNOME 43 | Tux Machines [09:50] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@p3cc5tjwyjdiq.irc) has joined #techrights [09:51] TR News Now also in the main Gentoo site New Gentoo LiveGUI ISO and artwork / branding contest! http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163328#comment-33278 [09:51] TR Bot Gentoo MIPS stages are back! | Tux Machines [09:51] TR News Maui Shells First Alpha Release Looks Promising Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163365 [09:51] TR Bot Maui Shell's First Alpha Release Looks Promising | Tux Machines [09:56] TR News "Although it's slightly weird-looking, were fairly sure that the image above is not an April Fool prank" https://www.tomshardware.com/news/servo-2040-powers-motorized-creations [09:56] TR Bot Pimoroni Announces Servo 2040 Servo Motor Controller | Tom's Hardware [09:57] TR News "For some time now, we've wanted to have a Printed Circuit Board (PCB) that we could use to demonstrate Drogue Device and Drogue Clown" https://blog.drogue.io/pcb-part-1/ [09:57] TR Bot The making of a PCB: Part 1 Drogue IoT [09:57] TR News "Throughout these two blog posts, we've seen the steps we took starting from the initial drawing to a potential large scale manufacturing of a fully assembled PCB" https://blog.drogue.io/pcb-part-2/ [09:57] TR Bot The making of a PCB: Part 2 Drogue IoT [09:58] TR News "The IBM 1401 team at the Computer History Museum accumulates a lot of mystery components from donations and other sources." http://www.righto.com/2022/04/reverse-engineering-mysterious-univac.html [09:58] Alternative link CloudFlare: righto.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/http://www.righto.com/2022/04/reverse-engineering-mysterious-univac.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/http://www.righto.com/2022/04/reverse-engineering-mysterious-univac.html [09:58] TR Bot Reverse-engineering a mysterious Univac computer board [09:58] TR News "Most ATX power supplies supply more 5V and less 12V than is needed for the Rainbow to power the system." https://bsdimp.blogspot.com/2022/03/dec-rainbow-power-supply-specs.html [09:58] TR Bot Warner's Random Hacking Blog: DEC Rainbow Power Supply Specs [09:58] TR News "A Philips Hue lamp is a LED lamp that can be controlled wirelessly." Sounds like a BadIdea(TM) https://blog.didierstevens.com/2022/04/03/power-consumption-of-a-philips-hue-lamp-in-off-state/ [09:58] TR Bot Power Consumption Of A Philips Hue lamp In Off State | Didier Stevens ● Apr 05 [10:00] TR News Palladium Magazine says nice things about Gemini gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/users/adiabatic/scrawlspace/ https://palladiummag.com/2022/04/01/palladium-is-now-templeos/ [10:00] Alternative link CloudFlare: palladiummag.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://palladiummag.com/2022/04/01/palladium-is-now-templeos/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://palladiummag.com/2022/04/01/palladium-is-now-templeos/ [10:00] TR Bot Terry Davis Was Right [10:03] TR News "How much land would be needed to give everyone some living space? And what would the world look like?" gemini://midnight.pub/posts/875 [10:03] TR News 6 Best Free and Open Source Continuous Delivery Systems Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163366 [10:03] TR Bot 6 Best Free and Open Source Continuous Delivery Systems | Tux Machines [10:04] TR News "March was full steam ahead for Lagrange, and I ended up addressing a bunch of long-standing issues. The original idea of making page layout more flexible didn't really get worked on yet, apart from one new style option. However, many of the UI widgets underwent visual evolution." gemini://skyjake.fi/gemlog/2022-04_lagrange-1.12.gmi [10:05] TR News IRC Proceedings: Monday, April 04, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/05/irc-log-040422/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/05/irc-log-040422/ [10:05] TR Bot IRC Proceedings: Monday, April 04, 2022 | Techrights [10:06] schestowitz (cat) gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D551.jpg [10:06] schestowitz (Cat) gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D193.jpg [10:07] TR News "I am happy to announce the first release of a project I've been working on for a while, Crabmail." gemini://alex.flounder.online/gemlog/2022-04-04.gmi [10:08] *aggi has quit (Quit: Leaving) [10:19] TR News Linux Foundation Should Remove Linux From Its Name | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/05/not-so-linux-foundation/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/05/not-so-linux-foundation/ [10:19] TR Bot Linux Foundation Should Remove Linux From Its Name | Techrights [10:20] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163367 [10:20] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [10:26] TR News "At the same time, this conglomerate of monopolies is often referred to as the publishing market" http://bjoern.brembs.net/2022/04/eu-academic-publishers-are-monopolists/ [10:26] TR Bot bjoern.brembs.blog EU: academic publishers are monopolists [10:27] TR News "This is the fourth post in my toolchains adventures series." https://www.cambus.net/toolchains-adventures-q1-2022/ [10:27] TR Bot Toolchains adventures - Q1 2022 | Frederic Cambus [10:28] TR News "It's time to finish up our peephole optimizer, O, that we started in the previous post." https://briancallahan.net/blog/20220402.html [10:28] TR Bot Brian Robert Callahan [10:28] TR News "As writing software turned into a more and more complex engineering effort, ideas emerged to make writing software easier and more stable" https://ubuntu.com//blog/software-operator-design-pattern-part-1 [10:28] Alternative link CloudFlare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/software-operator-design-pattern-part-1 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://ubuntu.com//blog/software-operator-design-pattern-part-1 [10:28] TR Bot patterns and the software operator part 1 | Ubuntu [10:28] TR News "Over the years, the software development and programming community developed a common understanding of design patterns." https://ubuntu.com//blog/software-operator-design-pattern-part-2 [10:28] Alternative link CloudFlare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/software-operator-design-pattern-part-2 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://ubuntu.com//blog/software-operator-design-pattern-part-2 [10:28] TR Bot software operator design pattern part 2 | Ubuntu [10:29] TR News "ZigBee is also an open standard, which makes it low cost compared to some other standards." https://everythingsmarthome.co.uk/smart-home-protocols-zigbee-explained/ [10:29] Alternative link CloudFlare: everythingsmarthome.co.uk | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://everythingsmarthome.co.uk/smart-home-protocols-zigbee-explained/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://everythingsmarthome.co.uk/smart-home-protocols-zigbee-explained/ [10:29] TR Bot Smart Home Protocols: ZigBee Explained! [10:29] TR News "Welcome to the [Spy] Home Protocols Series, where we are going to be deep diving on protocols that our [Spy] home devices use to communicate" https://everythingsmarthome.co.uk/smart-home-protocol-wifi-explained/ [10:29] Alternative link CloudFlare: everythingsmarthome.co.uk | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://everythingsmarthome.co.uk/smart-home-protocol-wifi-explained/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://everythingsmarthome.co.uk/smart-home-protocol-wifi-explained/ [10:29] TR Bot Smart Home Protocols: WiFi Explained! [10:31] TR News "This generation missed the Youve Got Mail era, that brief, sunny time when email was still electronic mail" https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/04/opinion/email-overload.html [10:31] Alternative link CloudFlare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/04/opinion/email-overload.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/04/opinion/email-overload.html [10:31] TR Bot Opinion | The Kids Are Right About Email, Too - The New York Times [10:33] SomeH4x0r what kids? [10:37] TR News "We are very proud to announce that the GNU Health project has been declared a Digital Public Good by the Digital Public Goods Alliance (DPGA)." https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/gnu-health/news/digital-public-goods-alliance-includes-gnu-health [10:37] Alternative link CloudFlare: europa.eu | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/gnu-health/news/digital-public-goods-alliance-includes-gnu-health https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/gnu-health/news/digital-public-goods-alliance-includes-gnu-health [10:37] TR Bot Digital Public Goods Alliance includes GNU Health | Joinup [10:38] TR News "In response, the Linux report"...NO, LF is NOT Linux https://nationalcybersecuritynews.today/new-security-requirements-introduced-for-medical-device-manufacturers-linux-linuxsecurity/ [10:38] TR Bot New security requirements introduced for medical device manufacturers | #linux | #linuxsecurity - NATIONAL CYBER SECURITY NEWS TODAY [10:43] TR News Windows TCO https://blog.didierstevens.com/2022/04/04/iso-files-with-office-maldocs-protected-view-in-office-2019-and-2021/ [10:43] TR Bot .ISO Files With Office Maldocs & Protected View in Office 2019 and 2021 | Didier Stevens [10:44] TR News Windows TCO ttps://www.computerworld.com/article/3655972/the-russian-cyberattack-threat-might-force-a-new-it-stance.html [10:44] schestowitz-TR SomeH4x0r: oh, u! [10:45] TR News Surveillance: Your Digital Footprint https://www.cnet.com/news/privacy/features/your-digital-footprint-its-bigger-than-you-realize/ [10:45] Alternative link CloudFlare: cnet.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnet.com/news/privacy/features/your-digital-footprint-its-bigger-than-you-realize/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.cnet.com/news/privacy/features/your-digital-footprint-its-bigger-than-you-realize/ [10:45] TR Bot Digital Footprint: It's Bigger Than You Realize - CNET [10:46] TR News "That leads to problem No. 2: Once a TikTok video starts to get attention, there are no checks on its spread" https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2022/03/west-elm-caleb-tiktok-mob-villain/629423/ [10:46] SomeH4x0r going to read later, I guess [10:46] Alternative link CloudFlare: theatlantic.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2022/03/west-elm-caleb-tiktok-mob-villain/629423/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2022/03/west-elm-caleb-tiktok-mob-villain/629423/ [10:46] TR Bot TikToks Algorithm Spews Out Viral Villains - The Atlantic [10:46] schestowitz-TR SomeH4x0r: many think gmail is email [10:46] schestowitz-TR nowadays [10:46] TR News "The purchase, equal to 9.2 percent of the company, appears to make Mr. Musk Twitters largest shareholder." https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/04/04/business/economy-news-inflation-russia [10:46] Alternative link CloudFlare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/04/04/business/economy-news-inflation-russia https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/04/04/business/economy-news-inflation-russia [10:46] TR Bot Business News for April 4, 2022 - The New York Times [10:47] TR News "Musk's filing did not disclose the purpose of the purchase or any plans for the company." https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/04/investing/elon-musk-twitter-stares-stake/index.html [10:47] Alternative link CloudFlare: cnn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/04/investing/elon-musk-twitter-stares-stake/index.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/04/investing/elon-musk-twitter-stares-stake/index.html [10:47] TR Bot Musk buys 9.2% of Twitter, making him the largest shareholder | CNN Business [10:48] TR News "The final reason a local [spy] home is better is for security reasons. With clown connected devices your data is being sent out to someone else" https://everythingsmarthome.co.uk/5-reasons-your-smart-home-should-be-local/ [10:48] Alternative link CloudFlare: everythingsmarthome.co.uk | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://everythingsmarthome.co.uk/5-reasons-your-smart-home-should-be-local/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://everythingsmarthome.co.uk/5-reasons-your-smart-home-should-be-local/ [10:48] TR Bot 5 Reasons Your Smart Home Should Be Local [10:54] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [10:57] TR News #cnet has become Microsoft spam and little else; https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/irritating-windows-10-defaults-you-dont-have-to-live-with/#ftag=CADf328eec iophk: linux mint is not mentioned even once [10:57] Alternative link CloudFlare: cnet.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/irritating-windows-10-defaults-you-dont-have-to-live-with/#ftag=CADf328eec https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/irritating-windows-10-defaults-you-dont-have-to-live-with/#ftag=CADf328eec [10:57] TR Bot Irritating Windows 10 Defaults You Don't Have to Live With - CNET [10:57] TR News old: Apple vs Right to Repair: Part 2! - Invidious https://yewtu.be/9l3f1KrMQeo Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia [10:57] TR Bot Apple vs Right to Repair: Part 2! - Invidious [10:58] TR News YouTubes Unfair Treatment Pushes Creators To Leave For Odysee https://odysee.com/@DistroTube:2/youtube's-unfair-treatment-pushes:2 Source: DistroTube [10:58] Alternative link CloudFlare: odysee.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@DistroTube:2/youtube's-unfair-treatment-pushes:2 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://odysee.com/@DistroTube:2/youtube's-unfair-treatment-pushes:2 [10:58] TR Bot Unfair Treatment Pushes Creators To Leave For Odysee [10:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.51 k/sec., IPFS upstream 87.75 average k/sec., average swarm size 317.48 [10:59] TR News old: Steam Deck Will Make Linux Mainstream https://odysee.com/@geotechland:6/steam-deck-will-make-linux-mainstream:7 Source: geotechland [10:59] Alternative link CloudFlare: odysee.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@geotechland:6/steam-deck-will-make-linux-mainstream:7 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://odysee.com/@geotechland:6/steam-deck-will-make-linux-mainstream:7 [10:59] TR Bot Steam Deck Will Make Linux Mainstream [10:59] *gooseheaded has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Apr 05 [11:00] TR News The safety and security argument doesnt fly in the medical device industry either https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/the-safety-and-security-argument-doesn't:4 Source: rossmanngroup [11:00] Alternative link CloudFlare: odysee.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/the-safety-and-security-argument-doesn't:4 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/the-safety-and-security-argument-doesn't:4 [11:00] TR Bot The safety and security argument doesn't fly in the medical device industry either [11:00] TR News iophk: given the focus of two of the three policy units, they would have to ban Microsoft https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/3258123-state-department-formally-launches-new-cyber-bureau/ [11:00] TR Bot State Department formally launches new cyber bureau | The Hill [11:01] TR News helsinki.fi blocked by javascript https://www.helsinki.fi/en/news/mathematics-and-science/how-did-30-year-old-linux-conquer-world GNU/Linux turns 40 next year. [11:01] TR Bot How did the 30-year-old Linux conquer the world? | University of Helsinki [11:02] TR News Who SENDS these packages? https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/04/05/malicious-open-source-packages-video/ Microsoft? http://techrights.org/2022/04/03/the-protestware-fud/ [11:02] TR Bot What you need to look out for when installing packages from public repositories - Help Net Security [11:02] TR Bot Corporate Media Slanting Microsofts Shipping of Racist Malware as Protestware (and an Open Source Issue) | Techrights [11:03] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [11:04] TR News Microsoft is NOT "public repositories"; it's a PRIVATE repo based on proprietary software. And it's governed by people who literally came from the NSA. [11:09] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [11:15] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@jqfgv2aywnd5a.irc) has joined #techrights [11:22] TR News Olgarchy is NOT free speech https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/elon-musk-takes-9-percent-stake-twitter-slamming-companys-free-speech-rcna22805 [11:22] TR Bot Elon Musk buys 9 percent stake in Twitter [11:22] TR News Surely they will ban Windows if they're true to their objective https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/3258123-state-department-formally-launches-new-cyber-bureau [11:23] TR News "In line with the EU Digital Compass, Finlands digital compass revolves around four cardinal points: skills, digital infrastructure, the digital transformation of businesses" https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/21294-draft-of-finland-s-digital-compass-sent-out-for-comments.html [11:23] Alternative link CloudFlare: helsinkitimes.fi | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/21294-draft-of-finland-s-digital-compass-sent-out-for-comments.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/21294-draft-of-finland-s-digital-compass-sent-out-for-comments.html [11:23] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/21294-draft-of-finland-s-digital-compass-sent-out-for-comments.html ) [11:23] TR News "The Commission will provide an assessment of the implementation of the digital principles in the annual State of the Digital Decade report." https://ec.europa.eu/info/strategy/priorities-2019-2024/europe-fit-digital-age/europes-digital-decade-digital-targets-2030_en [11:23] Alternative link CloudFlare: europa.eu | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ec.europa.eu/info/strategy/priorities-2019-2024/europe-fit-digital-age/europes-digital-decade-digital-targets-2030_en https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://ec.europa.eu/info/strategy/priorities-2019-2024/europe-fit-digital-age/europes-digital-decade-digital-targets-2030_en [11:23] TR Bot Europes Digital Decade: digital targets for 2030 | European Commission [11:27] TR News Pop OS 22.04 LTS - New Features and Release Updates Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163368 [11:27] TR Bot Pop OS 22.04 LTS - New Features and Release Updates | Tux Machines [11:36] DaemonFC schestowitz, Musk and Twitter.... [11:36] DaemonFC Buying shares of a failing platform that's completely overrun with bots and ads. [11:42] TR News Misinformation in China and Russia https://www.vox.com/23005295/china-russia-ukraine-war-media-censorship [11:42] TR Bot Chinese media is saying about Russias Ukraine war - Vox [11:42] TR News Misinformation in the West also: "Some 30% of UK adults who use the internet 14.5 million are unsure about or do not even consider the truthfulness of the information" https://www.thenational.wales/news/20030149.ofcom-one-three-internet-users-cannot-spot-false-accounts-content/ [11:42] TR Bot Ofcom: One in three internet users cannot spot false accounts or content | The National Wales [11:43] TR News Misinformation (also, there are many different vaccines) https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/03/technology/robert-malone-covid.html [11:43] Alternative link CloudFlare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/03/technology/robert-malone-covid.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/03/technology/robert-malone-covid.html [11:43] TR Bot Robert Malone Spreads Falsehoods About Vaccines. He Also Says He Invented Some. - The New York Times [11:44] TR News "The auto bad word monitor reportedly blacklists profanities and inappropriate terms but also targets terms related to organized labor" https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3258978-amazon-eyeing-plan-to-ban-words-such-as-union-restrooms-and-slave-labor-from-internal-chat-app-report/ [11:44] TR Bot Amazon eyeing plan to ban words such as union, restrooms and slave labor from internal chat app: report | The Hill [11:44] TR News SweatshopZone https://www.theverge.com/2022/4/4/23006562/amazon-labor-union-jfk8-win-contract-negotiations-expansion [11:44] TR Bot Amazon union workers won in New York can they win across the country? - The Verge [11:46] TR News CC position https://creativecommons.org/2022/04/04/cc-publishes-policy-paper-titled-towards-better-sharing-of-cultural-heritage-an-agenda-for-copyright-reform/ [11:46] Alternative link CloudFlare: creativecommons.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://creativecommons.org/2022/04/04/cc-publishes-policy-paper-titled-towards-better-sharing-of-cultural-heritage-an-agenda-for-copyright-reform/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://creativecommons.org/2022/04/04/cc-publishes-policy-paper-titled-towards-better-sharing-of-cultural-heritage-an-agenda-for-copyright-reform/ [11:46] TR Bot CC publishes policy paper titled Towards Better Sharing of Cultural Heritage An Agenda for Copyright Reform - Creative Commons [11:47] TR News Clearview ought not even EXIST https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/clearview-ai-fined-in-italy-starts-scanning-dead-russian-soldiers-in-ukraine/ [11:47] Alternative link CloudFlare: privateinternetaccess.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/clearview-ai-fined-in-italy-starts-scanning-dead-russian-soldiers-in-ukraine/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/clearview-ai-fined-in-italy-starts-scanning-dead-russian-soldiers-in-ukraine/ [11:47] TR Bot Clearview AI Fined in Italy, Starts Scanning Dead Russian Soldiers in Ukraine [11:49] TR News "This was once the fault line between East and West in Europe. Almost 35 years after the momentous change brought about by the fall of the Wall" https://www.thenation.com/article/world/ukraine-russia-european-left [11:49] Alternative link CloudFlare: thenation.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thenation.com/article/world/ukraine-russia-european-left https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.thenation.com/article/world/ukraine-russia-european-left [11:49] TR Bot "F*ck Leftist Westsplaining!" | The Nation [11:52] TR News GNU/Linux SBCs in real education https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/cross-disciplinary-computing-education-research-seminars/ [11:52] Alternative link CloudFlare: raspberrypi.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/cross-disciplinary-computing-education-research-seminars/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/cross-disciplinary-computing-education-research-seminars/ [11:52] TR Bot Exploring cross-disciplinary computing education in our new seminar series - Raspberry Pi [11:53] TR News SweatshopZone https://www.democracynow.org/2022/4/4/workers_organize_first_amazon_labor_union [11:53] TR Bot We Just Unionized Amazon: How Two Best Friends Beat the Retail Giants Union-Busting Campaign | Democracy Now! [11:54] TR News The Case of Julian Assange University Lecture https://dontextraditeassange.com/events/europe-justice-press-freedom-the-case-of-julian-assange-university-lecture/ [11:54] TR Bot Europe, Justice & Press Freedom: The Case of Julian Assange - University Lecture - Don't Extradite Assange [11:56] TR News Tor is becoming more dependent on NSA-controlled Rust (Microsoft GitHub proprietary software), markets this as 'security' https://blog.torproject.org/arti_020_released/ GitHub 'security' = NSA veterans [11:56] TR Bot Arti 0.2.0 is released: Your somewhat-stable API is here! | The Tor Project [11:57] DaemonFC gemini://rawtext.club/~sloum/geminews/cnn/current/24.gmi [11:57] DaemonFC CNN with Breaking News [11:57] DaemonFC Why coffee makes you poop! [11:57] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@s4ijqcub7r434.irc) has joined #techrights [11:57] TR News Rule #1 of Rust: don't talk about antitRUST (or Microsoft crimes) http://techrights.org/2020/06/18/rusty-censorship/ [11:58] TR Bot Beware Mozilla and Rust, Theyre Not Friends of Free Software or Even of Free Speech | Techrights ● Apr 05 [12:00] TR News Free speech perished https://truthout.org/articles/more-book-bans-sought-in-2021-than-any-other-point-in-past-20-years-group-says/ [12:00] Alternative link CloudFlare: truthout.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/more-book-bans-sought-in-2021-than-any-other-point-in-past-20-years-group-says/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://truthout.org/articles/more-book-bans-sought-in-2021-than-any-other-point-in-past-20-years-group-says/ [12:00] TR Bot More Book Bans Sought in 2021 Than Any Other Point in Past 20 Years, Group Says [12:01] TR News Cancel the patents https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/04/victory-virus-congress-cuts-new-global-covid-aid-0 [12:01] Alternative link CloudFlare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/04/victory-virus-congress-cuts-new-global-covid-aid-0 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/04/victory-virus-congress-cuts-new-global-covid-aid-0 [12:01] TR Bot 'A Victory for the Virus': Congress Cuts New Global Covid Aid to $0 [12:01] *ziraffep has quit (connection closed) [12:03] TR News They should focus on the patents that are causing it, not governments that won't pay the patent cartel https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/04/poor-peoples-pandemic-poorest-us-counties-suffered-twice-covid-deaths-richest [12:03] Alternative link CloudFlare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/04/poor-peoples-pandemic-poorest-us-counties-suffered-twice-covid-deaths-richest https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/04/poor-peoples-pandemic-poorest-us-counties-suffered-twice-covid-deaths-richest [12:03] TR Bot 'A Poor People's Pandemic': Poorest US Counties Suffered Twice the Covid Deaths of Richest [12:03] DaemonFC GNOME really does itself a disservice by not having Long Term Support releases. [12:04] DaemonFC The attitude of upstream is that if you're a version or two behind, your bugs don't matter anymore. [12:04] TR News Almost no children die from COVID-19. Be sceptical of people who push marketing lies for the patent cartel, trying to impose these on rich children (it's about money, not safety). https://respectfulinsolence.com/2022/04/04/bioethics-recycles-old-antivax-tropes-about-covid-vaccines-for-children/ [12:04] Alternative link CloudFlare: respectfulinsolence.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://respectfulinsolence.com/2022/04/04/bioethics-recycles-old-antivax-tropes-about-covid-vaccines-for-children/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://respectfulinsolence.com/2022/04/04/bioethics-recycles-old-antivax-tropes-about-covid-vaccines-for-children/ [12:04] TR Bot Bioethics recycles old antivax tropes about COVID vaccines for children - RESPECTFUL INSOLENCE [12:06] *GNUmoon2 has quit (connection closed) [12:06] TR News The platforms chosen by the EFF contradict its own stance of policy (if they still have any) https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/04/podcast-episode-your-tax-dollars-work [12:06] TR Bot Podcast Episode: Your Tax Dollars At Work | Electronic Frontier Foundation [12:06] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@agkps5rm7zn9y.irc) has joined #techrights [12:06] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [12:07] TR News Malware? Android itself is malware. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/04/anatomy-android-malware-dropper [12:07] TR Bot Anatomy of an Android Malware Dropper | Electronic Frontier Foundation [12:08] TR News When vain oligarchs buy out all the important media https://fair.org/home/corporate-press-scapegoats-vulnerable-homeless-for-rise-in-subway-crime/ [12:08] TR Bot Corporate Press Scapegoats Vulnerable Homeless for Rise in Subway Crime - FAIR [12:17] activelow meanwhile, i can verify gtk3 is unavailable with gcc-4.7, due to a dependency chain against icu library, which is with the required version c++14 [12:18] activelow i remember, icu library, was nasty 8 years ago already, not sure what it was, yet the guidelines for c++ had forbidden it's use in automotive, without some changes [12:19] activelow could be, it was rtti and c++ exceptions, and some years later it is c++14; [12:19] TR News Microsoft needs to be put out of business https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/04/day-action-antitrust-our-rights-are-tied-having-choices [12:19] TR Bot Day of Action for Antitrust: Our Rights Are Tied to Having Choices | Electronic Frontier Foundation [12:21] activelow i don't consider this critical, because the focus is a clean base-system, and anything else (with c++ dependencies) won't be reviewed anymore [12:22] activelow and the upgrade path from gcc-4.7 c-only -> gcc-4.7 with c++ -> gcc-6.5 succeeds [12:22] TR News Feudalism at SweatshopZone draws backlash https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/04/amazon-union-slams-any-attempt-delay-our-hard-won-right-bargain-collectively [12:22] Alternative link CloudFlare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/04/amazon-union-slams-any-attempt-delay-our-hard-won-right-bargain-collectively https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/04/amazon-union-slams-any-attempt-delay-our-hard-won-right-bargain-collectively [12:22] TR Bot Amazon Union Slams Any Attempt to 'Delay Our Hard-Won Right to Bargain Collectively' [12:23] activelow and what's far more important is: tinycc -> gcc-4.7, and tcc compiling anything else inside base system [12:24] TR News "While the average computer user likely hasnt given much thought to the lowly serial port in decades, the same cant be said for the hardware hacker" https://hackaday.com/2022/04/04/samd11-provides-two-serial-ports-for-price-of-one/ [12:24] TR Bot Provides Two Serial Ports For Price Of One | Hackaday [12:27] TR News USA is not a rich country. It is a ROBBED country. https://truthout.org/articles/sanders-announces-budget-committee-hearing-on-corporate-greed-and-profiteering/ [12:27] Alternative link CloudFlare: truthout.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/sanders-announces-budget-committee-hearing-on-corporate-greed-and-profiteering/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://truthout.org/articles/sanders-announces-budget-committee-hearing-on-corporate-greed-and-profiteering/ [12:27] TR Bot Sanders Announces Budget Committee Hearing on Corporate Greed and Profiteering [12:30] TR News More need to follow what these SweatshopZone workers did https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/04/04/amazon-workers-historic-win-and-corporate-americas-ongoing-greed [12:30] Alternative link CloudFlare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/04/04/amazon-workers-historic-win-and-corporate-americas-ongoing-greed https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/04/04/amazon-workers-historic-win-and-corporate-americas-ongoing-greed [12:30] TR Bot Opinion | Amazon Workers' Historic Win and Corporate America's Ongoing Greed | Robert Reich [12:31] TR News Microsoft proxy DuckDuckGo in there. Is this how the criminals from Microsoft are looking to distract from their own corruption? ttps://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/04/antitrust-day-action-takes-aim-power-tech-giants [12:33] TR News "The FBI had a crypto-messenger programmed that was fully intercepted. For legal reasons, the US authority received the intercepted communication via detours" https://digit.site36.net/2022/04/04/german-anom-investigations-the-mysterious-eu-third-state/ activelow [12:33] TR Bot German ANOM investigations: The mysterious EU third state Matthias Monroy [12:34] TR News They gave their rations to the people in the basement, then threw down a grenade https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/04/04/they-gave-their-rations-to-the-people-in-the-basement-then-threw-down-a-grenade [12:34] Alternative link CloudFlare: meduza.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/04/04/they-gave-their-rations-to-the-people-in-the-basement-then-threw-down-a-grenade https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/04/04/they-gave-their-rations-to-the-people-in-the-basement-then-threw-down-a-grenade [12:34] TR Bot NO TITLE [12:35] TR News Bad laws beget bad faith https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/04/assholes-are-now-forging-emergency-data-requests-to-talk-tech-companies-out-of-user-data/ [12:35] Alternative link CloudFlare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/04/assholes-are-now-forging-emergency-data-requests-to-talk-tech-companies-out-of-user-data/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/04/assholes-are-now-forging-emergency-data-requests-to-talk-tech-companies-out-of-user-data/ [12:35] TR Bot Are Now Forging Emergency Data Requests To Talk Tech Companies Out Of User Data | Techdirt [12:36] TR News Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4S SO-DIMM module is powered by Broadcom BCM2711 SoC Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163369 [12:36] TR Bot Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4S SO-DIMM module is powered by Broadcom BCM2711 SoC | Tux Machines [12:44] TR News pedo guy "Elon Musk appears to have a childlike understanding of free speech" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/04/elon-musk-is-now-twitters-largest-shareholder-and-thats-probably-not-a-good-thing/ so biggest owner of Twitter is the man who uses Twitter to slander innocent people, even heroes, as "pedo guy" [12:44] Alternative link CloudFlare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/04/elon-musk-is-now-twitters-largest-shareholder-and-thats-probably-not-a-good-thing/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/04/elon-musk-is-now-twitters-largest-shareholder-and-thats-probably-not-a-good-thing/ [12:44] TR Bot Musk Is Now Twitters Largest Shareholder; And Thats Probably Not A Good Thing | Techdirt [12:45] *sepsinn has quit (Quit: WeeChat 3.5) [12:48] TR News Sci-Hub should be used by everybody as a default https://torrentfreak.com/sci-hub-only-option-for-academics-in-russia-after-major-publishers-pull-out-220405/ [12:48] Alternative link CloudFlare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/sci-hub-only-option-for-academics-in-russia-after-major-publishers-pull-out-220405/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://torrentfreak.com/sci-hub-only-option-for-academics-in-russia-after-major-publishers-pull-out-220405/ [12:48] TR Bot Only Option For Academics In Russia After Major Publishers Pull Out * TorrentFreak [12:49] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163370 [12:49] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [12:50] TR News Organized Crime? 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Lots of criminals there. https://torrentfreak.com/pirate-iptv-police-organized-crime-unit-arrests-three-men-in-uk-220404/ [12:50] Alternative link CloudFlare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/pirate-iptv-police-organized-crime-unit-arrests-three-men-in-uk-220404/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://torrentfreak.com/pirate-iptv-police-organized-crime-unit-arrests-three-men-in-uk-220404/ [12:50] TR Bot IPTV: Police Organized Crime Unit Arrests Three Men in UK * TorrentFreak [12:51] *CrystalMath (~coderain@y2ywbcuvqi5g2.irc) has joined #techrights [12:51] TR News "Florida federal Judge Darrin Gayles has dismissed Content ID-related antitrust claims against GulagTube" https://torrentfreak.com/judge-drops-antitrust-claims-from-youtube-piracy-lawsuit-220404/ [12:51] Alternative link CloudFlare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/judge-drops-antitrust-claims-from-youtube-piracy-lawsuit-220404/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://torrentfreak.com/judge-drops-antitrust-claims-from-youtube-piracy-lawsuit-220404/ [12:51] TR Bot Drops Antitrust Claims From YouTube Piracy Lawsuit * TorrentFreak [12:52] TR News fossforce gets paid by Zemlin for this webspam of LF https://fossforce.com/2022/04/free-training-and-certification-linux-foundation-taking-submissions-for-lift-scholarships see http://techrights.org/2022/04/05/not-so-linux-foundation/ [12:52] TR Bot Free Training and Certification: Linux Foundation Taking Submissions for LiFT Scholarships - FOSS Force [12:52] TR Bot Linux Foundation Should Remove Linux From Its Name | Techrights [12:55] TR News "reforms are a welcome step forward in reforming the secrecy surrounding electronic surveillance" https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/04/ndo-fairness-act-important-step-towards-transparency [12:55] TR Bot The NDO Fairness Act Is an Important Step Towards Transparency | Electronic Frontier Foundation [12:55] TR News "Editors Note: After publication, we were alerted the that key story about the councilwoman, was actually from a few years ago, not recently." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/04/boulder-councilwoman-shared-video-claiming-that-5g-is-an-extinction-level-event/ [12:55] Alternative link CloudFlare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/04/boulder-councilwoman-shared-video-claiming-that-5g-is-an-extinction-level-event/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/04/boulder-councilwoman-shared-video-claiming-that-5g-is-an-extinction-level-event/ [12:55] TR Bot Councilwoman Shared Video Claiming That 5G Is An Extinction Level Event | Techdirt [12:58] TR News "Its your right to request records from public agencies. That fact cannot be disputed." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/04/new-jersey-town-sues-82-year-old-woman-for-exercising-her-rights/ [12:58] Alternative link CloudFlare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/04/new-jersey-town-sues-82-year-old-woman-for-exercising-her-rights/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/04/new-jersey-town-sues-82-year-old-woman-for-exercising-her-rights/ [12:58] TR Bot Jersey Town Sues 82-Year-Old Woman For Exercising Her Rights | Techdirt [12:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 18.60 k/sec., IPFS upstream 104.55 average k/sec., average swarm size 282.90 ● Apr 05 [13:00] TR News Remember to BOYCOTT SweatshopZone (Amazon) https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/04/seems-totally-illegal-amazon-may-ban-union-terms-messaging-app [13:00] Alternative link CloudFlare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/04/seems-totally-illegal-amazon-may-ban-union-terms-messaging-app https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/04/seems-totally-illegal-amazon-may-ban-union-terms-messaging-app [13:00] TR Bot 'This Seems Totally Illegal': Amazon May Ban Union Terms in Messaging App [13:01] TR News "Its more difficult to choose your investors than your customers" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/04/notorious-human-rights-abuser-is-one-of-nso-groups-main-investors/ [13:01] Alternative link CloudFlare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/04/notorious-human-rights-abuser-is-one-of-nso-groups-main-investors/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/04/notorious-human-rights-abuser-is-one-of-nso-groups-main-investors/ [13:01] TR Bot Human Rights Abuser Is One Of NSO Groups Main Investors | Techdirt [13:03] TR News Stop carrying so-called 'smart' so-called 'phones'. There are mostly DOWNsides associated with them. https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/04/top-court-in-massachusetts-says-cops-unconstitutionally-obtained-cell-tower-dumps-in-homicide-case/ [13:03] Alternative link CloudFlare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/04/top-court-in-massachusetts-says-cops-unconstitutionally-obtained-cell-tower-dumps-in-homicide-case/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/04/top-court-in-massachusetts-says-cops-unconstitutionally-obtained-cell-tower-dumps-in-homicide-case/ [13:03] TR Bot Court In Massachusetts Says Cops Unconstitutionally Obtained Cell Tower Dumps In Homicide Case | Techdirt [13:04] TR News "I dream of a day where Black women don't have to be overqualified, jump through hoops, and face misogynoir just to get to the jobs they already deserve." Now we can have corporate shills in SCOTUS, provided they're the right gender/race. 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Anywhere.) [13:48] TR News DNS system can take down your site. FOR DAYS. https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/05/how-to-get-your-domain-suspended-in-five-easy-steps/ [13:48] Alternative link CloudFlare: cnx-software.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/05/how-to-get-your-domain-suspended-in-five-easy-steps/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/05/how-to-get-your-domain-suspended-in-five-easy-steps/ [13:51] *CParadoxum__ (~quassel@9xkr6pdp2c5xu.irc) has joined #techrights [13:53] *CParadoxum__ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:54] *CParadoxum__ (~quassel@9xkr6pdp2c5xu.irc) has joined #techrights [13:54] matey lol [13:55] matey or, just fuck dns altogether (but for this instance some may consider that a heavy-handed response) [13:55] matey the nice thing about this approach is it fixes a lot of other problems too [13:56] *ziraffep has quit (Quit) [13:59] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@5j2hsrvteqpeu.irc) has joined #techrights ● Apr 05 [14:09] *bnchs (~bnchs@b9wm2yv3u6wx8.irc) has joined #techrights [14:09] bnchs hey hey [14:09] bnchs catch this [14:09] bnchs https://theintercept.com/2022/04/04/amazon-union-living-wage-restrooms-chat-app/ [14:09] Alternative link CloudFlare: theintercept.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://theintercept.com/2022/04/04/amazon-union-living-wage-restrooms-chat-app/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://theintercept.com/2022/04/04/amazon-union-living-wage-restrooms-chat-app/ [14:09] TR Bot New Amazon Worker Chat App Would Ban Words Like Union [14:11] psydruid it's like these big companies want to make it impossible to work for smaller ones, as those won't exist in the future anymore [14:11] psydruid so you either work a shitty job for Amazon or you become marginalised and possibly unemployed in society [14:13] TR News Links 05/04/2022: Antitrust Day | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/05/antitrust-day/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/05/antitrust-day/ [14:13] TR Bot Links 05/04/2022: Antitrust Day | Techrights [14:13] bnchs https://files.catbox.moe/fmlmsw.jpg [14:13] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163377 [14:13] TR Bot connect to files.catbox.moe:443; Network is unreachable ( status 0 @ https://files.catbox.moe/fmlmsw.jpg ) [14:13] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [14:19] *ziraffep has quit (Quit) [14:19] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@f2uucmx8wdxxw.irc) has joined #techrights [14:29] matey so you either work a shitty job for Amazon or you become marginalised and possibly unemployed in society <- theres a third option [14:29] SomeH4x0r hi matey [14:29] matey hi SomeH4x0r [14:30] matey glad if you are well [14:30] SomeH4x0r yes, just ISP issues [14:30] matey none as bad as cnx i hope [14:30] matey silly dns [14:31] matey dns isnt as bad as systemd, though like systemd its only going to get worse, not better [14:31] matey and it gives corporations too much power over computing [14:31] psydruid systemd-dnsd [14:31] matey heh [14:31] matey the answer to dns is this [14:32] matey cryptographic hash instead of a centralised (even distributed with centralised authority) db [14:32] matey then when people want a new website, they add an entry-- perhaps by clicking something [14:32] matey as a bonus, this means websites never load until theyre whitelisted [14:33] SomeH4x0r it is not DNS, something with ADSL [14:33] matey i would imply that solves phishing, but as soon as you click whitelist you know, youre hooked-- so it doesnt solve phishing for suckers (or non-technical people) [14:33] matey something with ADS <- sorry to hear [14:33] matey L [14:35] matey but it means that instead of some authority telling you where you can and cant go-- when you find a new website you click something, it adds an entry to your personal directory, and from then on you can go to it by typing a url instead of using the hash [14:35] matey the hash will also work of course-- the other url is a convenience [14:36] matey and browsers that support this will translate the url to the hash, so the website ITSELF would use the hash only (as base href for example) [14:37] matey you could make it even more convenient, i suppose, by having a scheme like this: [14:37] matey hash/suggestedurl/ <- this is the root of the website [14:37] bnchs systemd-suckmyd [14:37] bnchs ick [14:38] matey then instead of manually typing in a url, it would suggest one [14:38] matey if it overlapped with an existing entry you would have the opportunity to alter it [14:39] matey so for example techrights.org would be hash/techrights.org/ (the latter is an actual folder) and when you went there youd have the opportunity to save "hash" as "techrights.org" [14:39] matey your bookmarks would be to hash/techrights.org [14:40] *ziraffep has quit (Quit) [14:40] matey but when you went to techrights.org/ it would take you to techrights.org/techrights.org [14:40] bnchs matey: just use a phonebook [14:40] bnchs a domainbook [14:40] matey bnchs: im talking about how to make the domainbook trivial to populate/maintain [14:40] bnchs yeah [14:40] matey the use of a domainbook is a given here [14:40] bnchs well just buy a domainbook from someone [14:41] bnchs download* [14:41] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@agkps5rm7zn9y.irc) has joined #techrights [14:41] matey bnchs: no, this gives the user full control [14:41] *ziraffep has quit (Quit) [14:41] matey but... [14:41] bnchs no i mean [14:41] bnchs a domainbook [14:41] bnchs to help the user [14:41] matey as a shortcut they could start with a domainbook by default [14:41] bnchs not overwrite their configurations [14:41] matey yeah, that works [14:41] bnchs matey: thats what im talking about [14:41] matey right [14:41] matey not a bad idea [14:42] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@agkps5rm7zn9y.irc) has joined #techrights [14:42] matey the domainbook could be maintained by a community of users [14:42] matey or various books from various communities [14:42] matey and then the user of course could override any entries on their machine [14:42] matey but the community would have most of the work done [14:43] matey a reasonable concern with this approach is that many people would only use the "defaults" and this would lend a soft tyranny to the community that maintained the most popular book [14:43] matey other than that i like it [14:43] matey no plan works well with an uneducated and docile public [14:43] matey (relatively docile, stirred up to support bullshit now and again, like what you see today) [14:44] matey /me mumbles libreplanet [14:45] bnchs https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2022-28380 [14:45] TR Bot NVD - CVE-2022-28380 [14:45] matey whats it do [14:45] bnchs 4chan /g/ thread archived cited on a CVE [14:45] matey ha [14:45] bnchs archive* [14:45] matey /me thinks 4chan should have a linguistic forum called /upsidedownribboncharacter/ [14:46] matey i dont know what the upside down ribbon character is called [14:46] matey im sure xrevan86 does [14:47] bnchs it was a path traversal vulnerability [14:47] matey of course it would be very perverse, since theyre basically anarchists when it comes to linguistics [14:47] bnchs in 9front (plan 9 fork) [14:47] matey hmm, i would have thought 9front was more robust than that [14:47] bnchs for example you could do http://server/..%2f..%2f/ [14:47] TR Bot not resolve host: server; Unknown error ( status 0 @ http://server/..%2f..%2f/ ) [14:47] matey and by more robust i mean unrealistically devoid of vulnerabilities [14:48] matey and by unrealistically i mean "of course not" [14:48] bnchs probably a problem with the web server [14:48] bnchs percent-decoding after removing the dots [14:48] matey right [14:49] matey it matters what order you do things in [14:49] bnchs i mean the ../ [14:49] bnchs but if you do ..%2f [14:49] bnchs it doesnt reconignze that [14:49] matey like if you process something in all lowercase... then after that, you make it all lowercase [14:49] bnchs until it decodes it to ../ [14:49] matey of course [14:50] bnchs anyway its funny how a 4chan thread got referenced in a...... government... web. site [14:50] matey i agree [14:50] bnchs crap they're watching [14:50] matey like we didnt know [14:51] matey they must be laughing their arses off [14:51] matey how old is the cve? [14:52] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:52] matey they got him :( [14:58] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techrights [14:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 41.01 k/sec., IPFS upstream 112.81 average k/sec., average swarm size 318.53 ● Apr 05 [15:04] *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #techrights [15:05] *psymin (~psymin@user/psymin) has joined #techrights [15:08] *ziraffep has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:10] MinceR (cat) (audio) https://i.imgur.com/9hGbepG.mp4 [15:10] Alternative link CloudFlare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/9hGbepG.mp4 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://i.imgur.com/9hGbepG.mp4 [15:13] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@9tz2vzpr3cd26.irc) has joined #techrights [15:13] matey (cat) (audio) = "it has audio" (vs a modern "gif" which isnt a gif) or "audio only" (despite being mp4 which is a video format) [15:14] matey (audio:important) is more obvious [15:14] matey but this is something different [15:17] matey /me assumes (cat) (audio) = "it has audio" (vs a modern "gif" which isnt a gif) [15:43] *ziraffep has quit (Quit) [15:44] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@geta5bxg5ug98.irc) has joined #techrights [15:59] *swaggboi has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) ● Apr 05 [16:08] TR News Yesterday, to access the W3C Web site, without Tor or anything special, I was asked to press on pictures of boats. Not once. Several 'rounds'. This is the future of the Web as W3C sees it? What about people who cannot even see???????? [16:08] TR News Fwupd 1.7.7 Adds Support for Logitech M550, M650 and K650, More StarLite Laptops Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163378 [16:08] TR Bot Fwupd 1.7.7 Adds Support for Logitech M550, M650 and K650, More StarLite Laptops | Tux Machines [16:09] TR News Tails 5.0 Enters Beta Testing as First Release Based on Debian GNU/Linux 11 Bullseye Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163379 [16:09] TR Bot Tails 5.0 Enters Beta Testing as First Release Based on Debian GNU/Linux 11 Bullseye | Tux Machines [16:12] *swaggboi (~swaggboi@slackware.uk/supporter/swaggboi) has joined #techrights [16:29] TR News The EPO is Granting Loads of Software Patents in Order to Fake Growth | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/05/swpats-fake-growth/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/05/swpats-fake-growth/ [16:29] TR Bot The EPO is Granting Loads of Software Patents in Order to Fake Growth | Techrights [16:42] XRevan86 matey: "i dont know what the upside down ribbon character is called" <- The what now? Lambda? [16:46] *ziraffep has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:46] *SomeH4x0r has quit (connection closed) [16:46] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@7hpuxwr5tewrw.irc) has joined #techrights [16:47] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@4ib67bpjevnsu.irc) has joined #techrights [16:49] *ziraffep has quit (Quit) [16:53] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@4ib67bpjevnsu.irc) has joined #techrights [16:53] *ziraffep has quit (Quit) [16:56] MinceR (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ah0gW25F_PY [16:56] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Ah0gW25F_PY [16:56] TR Bot yewtu.be | The Gift Basket - Gabriel Iglesias - Invidious [16:57] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@4ib67bpjevnsu.irc) has joined #techrights [16:58] TR News [Meme] Meanwhile at IP Kat | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/05/ip-kat-tumbleweed/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/05/ip-kat-tumbleweed/ [16:58] TR Bot [Meme] Meanwhile at IP Kat | Techrights [16:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 51.91 k/sec., IPFS upstream 88.35 average k/sec., average swarm size 316.96 ● Apr 05 [17:00] matey Lambda? <- i thought a lambda looked different [17:01] matey maybe its the vegan kind [17:01] matey i do not claim knowledge of these things [17:02] MinceR lol [17:04] matey /me blames python, which has shitty lambdas [17:04] MinceR "do i have to make my own wedgie or can i buy one from a witch or vegan?" [17:04] matey haha [17:04] MinceR hy fixes python's lambdas [17:04] matey /me wishes hy could fix pythons unicode strings [17:05] matey id be happy with from __past__ import strings but NOOOOOOOOOoooooooo [17:05] matey this is the ONE TRUE STRING, now GUESS the encoding! [17:05] matey fuck [17:05] MinceR try using bytes instead of string [17:06] TR News Marleen Stikker, Author of The Internet is Broken, on Research Institute Waag | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/05/libreplanet-keynote/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/05/libreplanet-keynote/ [17:06] TR Bot Marleen Stikker, Author of The Internet is Broken, on Research Institute Waag | Techrights [17:06] MinceR it's the old str [17:06] matey oh i know [17:06] matey well... [17:06] matey i mean if im going to use bytes i might as well go back to c [17:06] matey its a bit tedious [17:06] MinceR i'm pretty sure there are other differences between c and python [17:06] MinceR plus there are no lambdas in c [17:06] matey as far as i know, theres no way to just say "here, dammit" [17:06] matey plus there are no lambdas in c <- im not leet enough to use lambdas [17:07] matey i tried one once, but i didnt compile [17:07] MinceR also, if you can use hy, you can use another lisp dialect, like common lisp or scheme :> [17:07] matey as long as its not guile [17:07] matey i draw the line at guild [17:07] matey guile [17:08] matey there are a few dialects of lisp in my fork of the fsd [17:08] matey ive thought about trying to pick one to play with [17:08] matey since theyre not github based. but i figure they have no libraries either [17:08] MinceR :) [17:08] matey if i want to say... interface with the screen, or a keyboard, or a file, or... anything outside the program, i honestly dont know what my options are outside of racket [17:09] MinceR so far i like sbcl [17:09] matey and racket isnt just in bed with microsoft, its the little spoon [17:09] matey funny you mention sbcl [17:09] MinceR i didn't know racket was involved with MICROS~1 [17:09] matey its the one that looks most promising from a completely superficial once-over [17:10] matey i mean, you know how it is with microsoft-- you have to guess a lot [17:10] matey but heres a hint... [17:10] MinceR i would hope you know something concrete if you bring it up :> [17:10] matey https://racket-lang.org/ "Thank you To the NSF, DARPA, the Fund for the Improvement of Postsecondary Education (FIPSE) at the US Department of Education, the Exxon Foundation, CORD, partners of the Academy of Information Technology, Microsoft, Mozilla, Google, and many individuals for their generous support over the years." [17:10] Alternative link CloudFlare: racket-lang.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://racket-lang.org/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://racket-lang.org/ [17:10] TR Bot Racket [17:10] matey so how significant is that? back to guessing [17:11] matey thats on their front page [17:11] MinceR i see [17:11] matey plus github (obviously) [17:11] matey i mean you wont find a large project that never had a sponsor [17:11] matey ant any rate, heres the thing-- you ask me what i know about it, ill generally tell you [17:11] matey im not just coy about everything [17:11] matey maybe its nothing. maybe it was just a summer fling [17:12] matey openbsd got money from microsoft once. fsf got the same amount of from google. [17:12] matey is it good? no. is there evidence the money accomplished anything sinister? no, its openbsd. [17:12] matey but i would be unhappy if it persisted [17:12] matey even if it did, find more a more forkable, less bullshit operating system. im always looking. [17:13] matey debian? rofl [17:13] matey more like debibm [17:13] MinceR deadian [17:13] matey systemd-debiand [17:14] matey i like an os that constantly runs a compoenent that rules all the others which says "fuck users, i dont give a damn what they want" [17:14] matey "and my developers will tell you the same" [17:14] matey openbsd says "if you dont like this, dont use it"-- it rarely goes around saying things like "debian this is your wakeup call" or "hey gnome, we would like your to be dependent on our os in some way" [17:15] matey because canadians are polite (even when they burn down the white house, theyre probably very apologetic about it) [17:15] matey running away from the blaze yelling "sorry! sorry!" [17:15] *ebin (~ebin@dne4qqwj27qau.irc) has left #techrights [17:15] *ebin (~ebin@dne4qqwj27qau.irc) has joined #techrights [17:17] MinceR if that happened, they did that as part of the kingdom of great britain, didn't they? :> [17:17] matey if mark shuttlework burned the white house down he would say "can you trust us with matches? erm, we have top clearance! you already trust us with matches!" [17:17] MinceR :> [17:17] matey they did that as part of the kingdom of great britain, didn't they? <- i mean, brits are known for their dark humour. they could say it was a bit. [17:18] *bnchs (~bnchs@b9wm2yv3u6wx8.irc) has joined #techrights [17:18] matey "the americans, they have no sense of irony!" [17:19] matey "if you even had a bloody sense of humour youd see how hilarious this is" [17:19] matey "sure, i bet india is laughing too" [17:19] matey "well yes, some of them, surely" [17:20] matey sooner or later though they outsourced most of the empire building to the states [17:21] matey "i mean theyre much keener on it and they have quite a bit of land, so why not?" [17:21] matey warhub [17:24] TR News Coronavirus is Enjoying Tories' Policy as Daily Deaths Reach Highest Level in More Than 2 Months, Patients in Hospital at Highest Level in Over a Year http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/04/05/corona-is-up/ [17:24] TR Bot Blog Archive Coronavirus is Enjoying Tories Policy as Daily Deaths Reach Highest Level in More Than 2 Months, Patients in Hospital at Highest Level in Over a Year [17:25] bnchs well [17:25] bnchs there's a beta port of godot editor to android [17:25] bnchs you can now make godot games in android phones/tablets [17:25] bnchs although it requires a big screen [17:25] matey /me thought godot supported android like 5 years ago [17:25] bnchs yeah [17:25] MinceR is there an FPS based on Godot yet? [17:25] bnchs but this is the editor [17:25] matey oh opk [17:25] matey ok [17:26] bnchs but i don't apperciate them being bribed by M$ to add C# support [17:26] bnchs even though it's in a different edition [17:29] psydruid I hope all of that junk is removed when M$ finally goes under [17:29] psydruid M$ has been a huge negative value to the world throughout its existence [17:29] matey godotengine.org/article/george-marques-will-be-working-full-time-project He is responsible for the UWP port, as well as a lot of improvements and fixes across the engine. He is the main contributor behind the GDScript rewrite for Godot 3.1 [17:30] matey whats the uwp port? [17:30] matey He is the main contributor behind the GDScript rewrite [17:30] bnchs UWP is a windows thing [17:31] matey but i don't apperciate them being bribed by M$ to add C# support <- george-marques also signed the anti-rms letter [17:31] matey but it looks like only 2 people did [17:31] MinceR who's george-marques? [17:31] matey thats not many [17:31] bnchs so that means godot is also taken over? [17:31] MinceR godot person? [17:31] matey godot person?v <- maybe a prominent one. but i dont follow godot closel [17:31] matey at any rate it has a large team yes? [17:31] MinceR \_()_/ [17:32] matey im not sure holding a large team to the action of two signers is reasonable [17:32] bnchs https://godotengine.org/download [17:32] Alternative link CloudFlare: godotengine.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://godotengine.org/download https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://godotengine.org/download [17:32] TR Bot Godot Engine - Download | Linux [17:32] bnchs there's standard version [17:32] matey if he were the leader of godot id be inclined to [17:32] bnchs and mono version (with c#) [17:32] matey mono = uwp? [17:32] MinceR i hear someone plug Godot from time to time on channels of an FPS, then reveal that no one has ever actually built an FPS on it :> [17:32] matey i was interested in godot until the github purchase-- then not [17:33] bnchs lemme check something out [17:33] matey basically github keeps me from trying new software. until more forks away start to happen [17:33] bnchs Juan Linietsky [17:33] matey theres also non-github based software. i HAVE seen a FEW things move to gitlab at least [17:33] bnchs he's the lead dev of godot [17:34] bnchs Rmi Verschelde [17:34] matey gitlab sucks, but its away from the github monopoly [17:34] bnchs he's the current maintainer of godot [17:34] matey oh that sucks! [17:34] matey hes the other signer [17:34] matey Rmi Verschelde and the other guy i mentioned [17:34] matey so yeah the leader of godot is anti-stallman [17:34] matey bummer [17:34] bnchs well he's just the current maintainer of godot [17:34] matey sure [17:34] matey i mean thats true [17:35] matey maybe when hwe isnt... [17:35] *psydruid wonders when Github will finally go under [17:35] psydruid the sooner the better [17:36] schestowitz-TR it can take a while [17:36] schestowitz-TR think long haul [17:36] bnchs the maintainer hasn't gotten as much commits as the lead dev [17:36] schestowitz-TR in the mean time it costs Microsoft money [17:36] bnchs Juan Linietsky [17:36] schestowitz-TR like twitter, it's social control [17:36] schestowitz-TR thney lverage it for manipulation [17:36] psydruid so maybe it should bleed money as long as possible [17:36] schestowitz-TR rather than for money [17:36] psydruid so cause more damage to the mothership [17:36] matey Juan Linietsky [17:36] psydruid to* [17:36] bnchs matey: it's also odd this was mentioned in the wikipedia page [17:37] matey & not a siugner [17:37] matey it's also odd this was mentioned in the wikipedia page <- what was [17:37] bnchs "Godot received a $24,000 donation from Microsoft to implement C# as a scripting language in Godot" [17:37] matey maybe it should bleed money as long as possible <- i think bleeding money was part of the plan [17:37] matey theyre not bleeding it, theyre spending it on something worth more to them [17:38] MinceR they're buying influence [17:38] matey yes [17:38] bnchs i'm pretty sure [17:38] MinceR they're buying mindshare [17:38] matey theyre buying influence [17:38] MinceR they're even buying customers [17:38] bnchs this is the only public microsoft bribery [17:38] bnchs i've seen [17:38] psydruid and developers who use Github are influencers [17:38] bnchs 24 grand to implement microsoft tech [17:38] matey roy used to quite-- we will get them hooke don etc figure out how to make money later [17:38] psydruid Github social media influencers [17:38] matey quote ^ [17:38] matey developers who use Github are influencers <- heh [17:41] matey http://techrights.org/2010/02/24/gates-controlling-the-system/ (2010) <- Bill Gates once said that theyll get sort of addicted, and then well somehow figure out how to collect sometime in the next decade. [17:41] TR Bot Gates Foundation is Planting Stories in the Press and Called World-wide Killing Machine by CRS | Techrights [17:41] matey so this at least used to be a concern. id say its more of one now, as MORE are addicted [17:41] psydruid I knew that early on [17:42] matey sure theyve always done this [17:42] bnchs i find it funny [17:42] bnchs what if [17:42] psydruid I never developed a dependency on anything in the Microsoft environment [17:42] bnchs microsoft has just been bribing people with 24 grand [17:42] psydruid so I am free to move from anything to anything [17:42] bnchs to depend their programs in microsoft [17:42] matey I never developed a dependency on anything in the Microsoft environment <- but dependencies themselves move there too [17:43] psydruid matey, that's the subversion that happened later on at a time when I didn't even realise what was happening [17:43] psydruid I only noticed systemd and friends in 2017 [17:43] psydruid because my machine just wouldn't shut down [17:44] psydruid little did I know they had been inserting all sorts of crap into GNU/Linux [17:45] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/22032929 [17:45] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/yj253q39kop81.jpg created on 2022-03-29 12:05:22.121993 [17:45] TR News KDE Neon Added to the Workspace (or Battle Station) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/05/kde-neon-feels-great/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/05/kde-neon-feels-great/ [17:45] TR Bot KDE Neon Added to the Workspace (or Battle Station) | Techrights [17:46] bnchs yo momma so fat [17:47] bnchs she devours food faster than systemd devours your system [17:47] matey matey, that's the subversion that happened later on at a time when I didn't even realise what was happening <- oh its not your fault [17:47] matey its just the nature of the problem [17:48] matey roy said i used to "pull out my hair" over github depedencies [17:48] matey theres a reason i used to pay attention to those [17:48] matey its because if you want to track the problem at a resolution beyond "its on github, or its not" [17:48] matey if you want to actually find which projects are the MOST encumbered [17:48] psydruid I was mainly a user from 2013 till 2016 and gradually became aware of what had been happening [17:49] schestowitz-TR matey: did I use those actual words? [17:49] matey and, if you want to tell people "this doesnt depend on github"-- i mean, non-free deps matter to the fsdg, why wouldnt github-based libraries matter here? [17:49] matey of course... once you count dependendcies, you realise theres simply no such things as github-free [17:49] matey you cant make a github-free distro [17:49] matey it will have libpng if its graphical. it will have harfbuzz if it supports a number of asian languages. [17:50] psydruid so I moved my desktops over to OpenBSD and started testing the BSDs on various laptops to see how they would work, but have kept them mainly on GNU/Linux so far [17:50] schestowitz-TR devuan was my first choice for the new laptop [17:50] matey it will have libffi if it supports languages that allow ctypes [17:50] schestowitz-TR the wifi chip or component gave it a hard time [17:50] schestowitz-TR realtek [17:50] matey devuan was my first choice for the new laptop <- a solid step in the right direction [17:50] matey they used to be more ambitious [17:51] schestowitz-TR when I installed debian 10 it was because I had the CD ready [17:51] matey st this point id say there is no hope but to have a more modest objective (they should have kept going, like hyperbola did) [17:51] schestowitz-TR as rianne had installed it months earlier on hers [17:51] matey but a move away from debian is a move away from debian [17:51] matey and if everyone did it, the world would realise debian fucked up [17:51] schestowitz-TR a move away from Debian BASE typically means ICBM [17:51] schestowitz-TR SUSE< Gentoo and Arch notwithstanding [17:52] matey a move away from Debian BASE typically means ICBM <- i mean debian IS icbm [17:52] matey so [17:52] schestowitz-TR Gentoo is not for me [17:52] matey you mean fedora i guess [17:52] matey no, gentoo isnt for me either [17:52] schestowitz-TR arch is scary because they can jump to newer versions without caution [17:52] matey yeah im not too fond of rolling release [17:52] schestowitz-TR and then issue instructions in their site to run some comment to 'correct' it [17:52] schestowitz-TR *command [17:52] matey if i was, parabola is better than devuan [17:53] matey at the very least, parabola is better than arch in every single way [17:53] TR News Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163380 [17:53] TR Bot Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [17:53] matey but its still rolling afaik [17:54] bnchs i use arch [17:54] bnchs and i got graphical issues in some games but works [17:54] bnchs in some latest update ● Apr 05 [18:01] matey a rolling release is supposed to give you more control over upgrades [18:01] matey some can even roll back [18:02] matey if they simply made the default setting on a rolling release "fixed release" somehow [18:02] matey which should be possible if you have more control [18:02] matey then it would act like a fixed release by default until you pulled the "freewheeling" pin out [18:02] matey then everyone would find it superior to fixed release. i guess. [18:03] matey i dont know, i always thought i was making too much of the difference [18:03] matey which is why when i actually use rolling release distros, they break in annoying ways [18:03] matey and then im like "well, what do you expect, its rolling release". surely this is fixable. as in a best-of-both-worlds design. [18:04] matey fwiw compiling ports is similar [18:04] matey when a new version comes out (twice a year or so) you want to get stuff from ports before it gets wonky [18:04] matey compile it when its new-- its the only way i ever got ports to work. [18:05] matey i compiled bash (didnt have to, i could also just pkg_add bash) [18:05] matey ive used it once since then [18:08] MinceR https://www.siliconrepublic.com/enterprise/apple-meta-hackers-lapsus-data-sharing-law-enforcement [18:08] TR Bot Apple and Meta reportedly gave user data to hackers forging requests [18:09] matey lovely [18:09] matey silicon republic eh? [18:11] matey "Apple and Facebook parent company Meta provided user data to cybercriminals last year who requested the information after pretending to be law enforcement, according to a Bloomberg report." [18:11] matey we wont give your data to anyone-- except law enforcement and fake law enforcement [18:11] matey and maybe some of our friends [18:12] matey "Such requests usually require documents signed by judges or search warrants, but Bloomberg reported that special emergency data requests, like the ones the hackers used, can be made when officials require speedy access to data." thanks ellen degenerous! [18:12] TR News [Video/Meme] Passengers Are Leaving Gulag Behind | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/05/gulag-is-dangerous/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/05/gulag-is-dangerous/ [18:12] TR Bot [Video/Meme] Passengers Are Leaving Gulag Behind | Techrights [18:13] matey "We can confirm that Discord received requests from a legitimate law enforcement domain and complied with the requests in accordance with our policies, the company wrote in a statement." [18:13] matey so theyre not sowing discord, theyre actually reaping it [18:13] *ziraffep has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:14] matey "Future Human reveals first speakers in its May line-up" i guess TECHNICALLY thats the future [18:15] matey Another important session will be that around the future of the web, says ODea. Theres so much extreme chatter around Web3, NFTs and blockchain and it always seems to be black and white you love whats happening or you hate it. We wanted to have a hype-free, thoughtful discussion on this. [18:15] matey hmm, web3 without hype [18:15] matey also known as web [18:16] matey "The session will be chaired by Pete Townsend, managing director of" different one i guess [18:16] matey i think at least one dyslexic fan of the who (slightly different spelling) is going to be disappointed [18:16] bnchs matey: lol [18:16] bnchs this is what you get [18:17] bnchs your private messages are not private [18:17] bnchs you share them with discord staff and the law enforcement [18:22] matey roy says twitter would collapse [18:22] matey i said it would become a vanity project for someone really rich [18:22] matey " [18:22] matey Elon Musk is now one of Twitters biggest shareholders" [18:23] MinceR and nothing of value was lost [18:23] matey true [18:23] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@4j9jkcntt88f2.irc) has joined #techrights [18:23] matey at any rate it looks like its headed in that direction [18:24] matey "Survey suggests 90,000 Irish SMEs had data stolen in the last year" [18:24] matey hehehehe, "smes" [18:25] matey i heard a joke in ni about a guy named smeeeeeeeeeeee [18:25] matey well actually he claimed it was a word [18:25] matey he called in a radio station who was asking for obscure words and he said he had one for them [18:25] matey it was spelled a-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f [18:26] matey when they asked him to use it in a sentence he said FUG AFFFFFFFF! [18:26] matey then he called back and told them there was a word spelled s-m-e-e-e-e-e-e-e [18:26] MinceR i've heard with GOAN and SMEE [18:26] matey "SMEEEE AGAIN! FUG AFFFFFFFFF" [18:26] matey i've heard with GOAN and SMEE <- nice [18:27] matey goan of course, wouldnt work in ni [18:27] matey as everyone there uses it. [18:27] matey "goan, i told im!" [18:28] matey "have you heard about our john? ees a gay mon nuh!" catherine tate [18:28] TR News xkcd: Linguistics Degree https://xkcd.com/2602/ Source: xkcd [18:28] TR Bot Linguistics Degree [18:28] Alternative link CloudFlare: xkcd.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://xkcd.com/2602/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://xkcd.com/2602/ [18:28] matey its really more like "maun" [18:29] matey and nuh has way more letters to spell it properly [18:29] MinceR https://www.davesjokes.com/?joke=radio-contest [18:29] Alternative link CloudFlare: davesjokes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.davesjokes.com/?joke=radio-contest https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.davesjokes.com/?joke=radio-contest [18:29] TR Bot Radio Contest - Dave's Jokes [18:29] matey "and on drums is jim but he spells it j-i-c-h-k-i-o-m!" [18:29] matey https://www.davesjokes.com/?joke=radio-contest <- nice [18:29] Alternative link CloudFlare: davesjokes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.davesjokes.com/?joke=radio-contest https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.davesjokes.com/?joke=radio-contest [18:31] bnchs matey: elon musk is now one of twitter's biggest shareholders [18:31] bnchs but he only bought 8% [18:32] bnchs which means there's very few shareholders that twitter has [18:32] bnchs their standards are low no wonder [18:32] matey or very many who hold very little [18:33] matey supposedly the others are saudi [18:33] bnchs i wish it was twitter that gone bankrupt [18:33] bnchs rather than gamestop [18:33] matey musk wants twitter to run on batteries, they probably want it to run on oil :) [18:33] bnchs twitter should run on propane [18:34] matey i think myspace ran on propane [18:34] matey you used to see tom hooking up a new tank every morning [18:35] MinceR propane and propane accessories? [18:35] matey mincer: yyyup [18:35] bnchs MinceR: free software and free software accessories [18:35] MinceR propane and propane nightmares [18:36] matey /me designs a grill based on the reaction between propane and antipane [18:36] matey it will do your steaks in 30 seconds [18:37] bnchs atleast sold by someone with a narrow urethra [18:37] matey the trick is finding people who supply antipane tanks, because they have electromagnetic containment systems [18:37] MinceR :> [18:37] bnchs just find pane tanks [18:37] TR News "In the last couple of years I've mostly seen talk about how the Internet hasn't fulfilled its promise of making the world better. Centralised social media, algorithmic amplification, the control of military drones or state surveillance, proof or work cryptocurrencies." gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-04-05-i-answer-questions-part-iii.gmi [18:37] bnchs pain or pane [18:37] MinceR i have plenty of pain [18:38] bnchs you can either be pro-pane or anti-pane [18:38] bnchs MinceR: good [18:38] MinceR not really [18:38] TR News "Warning to all Ubuntu users. Starting with Ubuntu 22.04, Firefox users will be forced to migrate to the "Snap" version of Firefox. This will be done automatically. Ubuntu doesnt provide a native Firefox anymore. You had probably been warned with Ubuntu 21.10." gemini://rawtext.club/~ploum/2022-04-05-firefox-ubuntu.gmi [18:38] matey /me thinks twitter should run on tpain [18:38] matey click here to hear your tweet autotuned [18:39] bnchs can you use fear to grill your steaks? [18:39] matey you can use fear to make people grill them for you [18:39] bnchs i mean fear as energy [18:39] bnchs and fuel [18:40] matey i think youd need some kind of converter [18:40] matey maybe a fucks capacitor, because it wont work if people give zero fucks [18:41] TR News The numbers dont lie. Tories do. Its harder to lie and to spin when hospitals and moratoriums report their data. The economy has sunk, people keep dying, and the situation is out of control because more patients enter hospitals than leave them, either dead or alive. http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/04/05/corona-is-up/ [18:41] TR Bot Blog Archive Coronavirus is Enjoying Tories Policy as Daily Deaths Reach Highest Level in More Than 2 Months, Patients in Hospital at Highest Level in Over a Year [18:41] matey "when this baby gets up to 88 fucks per hour, youre going to see some serious shit" [18:42] matey "doc, at your age even 2 per hour would be impressive" [18:45] matey instead of plutonium or rubbish, mr. fusion would have to run on chocolate covered strawberries and marvin gaye records [18:46] TR News Titus: Healthcare in America - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=WYLRqq1QymI Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia (this week I learned, not from my own experience, tooth extraction can cost $1000 in US; here it's less than 100 if you shop around) [18:46] TR Bot Healthcare in America - Invidious [18:46] TR News Firefox DYING is TERRIBLE for the Web - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=eA8O97U1Pbc Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia (the only practical solution now is, gradually abandon the Web) [18:46] TR Bot Firefox DYING is TERRIBLE for the Web - Invidious [18:47] matey and of course doc brown would be played by ron jeremy (if he hasnt already) [18:48] matey "hey youm get your damn hands off her!" [18:48] TR News Unreal Engine 5 is now available! - Unreal Engine https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/blog/unreal-engine-5-is-now-available Source: unrealengine [18:48] Alternative link CloudFlare: unrealengine.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/blog/unreal-engine-5-is-now-available https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/blog/unreal-engine-5-is-now-available [18:48] TR Bot Unreal Engine 5 is now available! - Unreal Engine [18:48] bnchs unreal engine [18:49] bnchs i wonder what tim swine-e added [18:49] TR News Not only Gulag is the threat here. 'Smart' 'phones' and the WWW are the culprits. They enable this. https://www.maketecheasier.com/ways-google-tracks-you-and-stop-it/ [18:49] TR Bot 4 Ways Google Tracks You and How to Stop it - Make Tech Easier [18:50] matey https://www.gamespot.com/gallery/every-unreal-engine-5-game-so-far/2900-3990/ [18:50] Alternative link CloudFlare: gamespot.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamespot.com/gallery/every-unreal-engine-5-game-so-far/2900-3990/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamespot.com/gallery/every-unreal-engine-5-game-so-far/2900-3990/ [18:50] TR Bot Unreal Engine 5 Game So Far - GameSpot [18:51] TR News Still lacking a plan to abandon proprietary software tools controlled by the NSA and Microsoft criminals https://blog.rust-lang.org/inside-rust/2022/04/04/lang-roadmap-2024.html you need to open an account with MICROSOFT to participate in Rust. No tRust. [18:51] TR Bot Rust Lang Roadmap for 2024 | Inside Rust Blog [18:51] matey i wonder what tim swine-e added <- wasnt he the original [18:52] matey oh you mean the latest iteration [18:52] bnchs what do you mean [18:53] matey https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/unreal-engine-5 [18:53] Alternative link CloudFlare: unrealengine.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/unreal-engine-5 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/unreal-engine-5 [18:53] TR Bot Unreal Engine 5 - Unreal Engine [18:53] matey With Lumen, you no longer have to author lightmap UVs, wait for lightmaps to bake, or place reflection captures; what you see inside the Unreal Editor is what you get on console. [18:53] TR News A new tool 'unsnap' helps you move from Snaps to Flatpaks | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/a-new-tool-unsnap-helps-you-move-from-snaps-to-flatpaks/ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games [18:53] Alternative link CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/a-new-tool-unsnap-helps-you-move-from-snaps-to-flatpaks/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/a-new-tool-unsnap-helps-you-move-from-snaps-to-flatpaks/ [18:53] TR Bot new tool 'unsnap' helps you move from Snaps to Flatpaks | GamingOnLinux [18:54] matey other than that, it seems to be "bigger, longer and un-cut" [18:54] bnchs tim "i won't port fortnite unless you add rootkits to gnu/linux" swine-e [18:54] TR News The Steam Deck hit me over the head with feelings of nostalgia | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/the-steam-deck-hit-me-over-the-head-with-feelings-of-nostalgia/ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games [18:54] Alternative link CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/the-steam-deck-hit-me-over-the-head-with-feelings-of-nostalgia/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/the-steam-deck-hit-me-over-the-head-with-feelings-of-nostalgia/ [18:54] TR Bot Steam Deck hit me over the head with feelings of nostalgia | GamingOnLinux [18:54] MinceR (cat) https://i.imgur.com/2PGBiWD.jpeg [18:54] Alternative link CloudFlare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/2PGBiWD.jpeg https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://i.imgur.com/2PGBiWD.jpeg [18:55] matey cant he just ruin steam dick and leave linus (and britney) alone? [18:55] bnchs no [18:55] matey aww, but, but [18:55] bnchs because he can't port fortnite to steam dick [18:55] matey hmm [18:55] bnchs unless valve bends the knee to him [18:55] MinceR it's cheaper to have others put rootkits in Linux and maintain them [18:55] bnchs and adds rootkits to the kernel [18:55] MinceR plus tencent wants them on your PC as well [18:55] bnchs until then, he will cry like a big baby [18:56] matey /me hears theo laughing [18:56] matey presumably linux libre would remove them [18:56] matey one would hope [18:56] bnchs matey: yeah thats what tim swine-e hates [18:57] bnchs he hates that the user can modify his hardware for once [18:57] matey or theyd have to change it to linux-libre-lite [18:57] TR News "Chris's thoughts on Linux's NVIDIA conundrum" https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148097/march-boost-battle-jupiter-extras-84/ [18:57] Alternative link CloudFlare: jupiterbroadcasting.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148097/march-boost-battle-jupiter-extras-84/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148097/march-boost-battle-jupiter-extras-84/ [18:57] TR Bot March Boost Battle | Jupiter Extras 84 | Jupiter Broadcasting [18:57] bnchs https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22171656 [18:57] Alternative link CloudFlare: ycombinator.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22171656 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22171656 [18:57] TR Bot Epic is probably one of the biggest enemies of Linux since they're killing Linux... | Hacker News [18:57] bnchs someone shares my opinion [18:58] matey why stop with rootkits? why not put a thing on the side of the computer that makes you pump quarters in to keep using it/ [18:58] TR News Synapse Collapse | LINUX Unplugged 452 https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148112/synapse-collapse-linux-unplugged-452/ [18:58] Alternative link CloudFlare: jupiterbroadcasting.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148112/synapse-collapse-linux-unplugged-452/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148112/synapse-collapse-linux-unplugged-452/ [18:58] TR Bot Synapse Collapse | LINUX Unplugged 452 | Jupiter Broadcasting [18:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 72.31 k/sec., IPFS upstream 76.66 average k/sec., average swarm size 260.01 [18:59] bnchs epic games and tim swine-e are the enemies of gnu/linux gaming [18:59] bnchs bribed by microsoft [18:59] bnchs to never port their games to gnu/linux ● Apr 05 [19:01] matey nasty [19:01] bnchs https://www.theverge.com/2022/2/8/22923163/fortnite-steam-deck-update-epic-tim-sweeney [19:01] TR Bot Epic wont update Fortnite to run on the Steam Deck - The Verge [19:01] bnchs "With regard to anti-cheat on the Linux platform supporting custom kernels and the threat model to a game of Fortnite's size, YES THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT!" [19:01] bnchs "Linux platform supporting custom kernels" [19:01] bnchs it's obvious what he wants [19:02] bnchs he wants steam deck to be tivoizated to one kernel [19:02] bnchs no modifications allowed [19:03] matey whats gregkh say? [19:03] TR News Linus Torvalds seems to have gotten himself entrapped inside an organisation (Linux Foundation; Linux only in name) that harms Linux and even harms Git http://techrights.org/2022/04/05/not-so-linux-foundation/ [19:03] TR Bot Linux Foundation Should Remove Linux From Its Name | Techrights [19:04] TR News Gulags (Googles) exploitative relationship with GNU/Linux (the software, its users, developers, creators) needs to be better understood http://techrights.org/2022/04/05/gulag-is-dangerous/ [19:04] TR Bot [Video/Meme] Passengers Are Leaving Gulag Behind | Techrights [19:04] TR News A quick tour through the current setup and how tasks are split/spread across different machines http://techrights.org/2022/04/05/kde-neon-feels-great/ [19:04] TR Bot KDE Neon Added to the Workspace (or Battle Station) | Techrights [19:04] TR News Leap Micro Beta Available for Testers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163381 [19:04] TR Bot Leap Micro Beta Available for Testers | Tux Machines [19:04] TR News Firefox 99 Released with GTK Overlay Scrollbar Support, Fixes Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163382 [19:04] TR Bot Firefox 99 Released with GTK Overlay Scrollbar Support, Fixes | Tux Machines [19:05] TR News This keynote talk was uploaded a week ago. Marleen is founder of Waag, a social organization and research institute for creative technologies and social innovation." http://techrights.org/2022/04/05/libreplanet-keynote/ [19:05] TR Bot Marleen Stikker, Author of The Internet is Broken, on Research Institute Waag | Techrights [19:06] TR News Over the past month or so IP Kat wrote just 2 posts about patents; it has said nothing about EPO abuses since several years ago http://techrights.org/2022/04/05/ip-kat-tumbleweed/ [19:06] TR Bot [Meme] Meanwhile at IP Kat | Techrights [19:06] bnchs what i would like is to epic games and tim swine-e to go fuck themselves [19:06] matey i support this [19:06] TR News Growth at the EPO is pretty much faked; the management crafted (e.g. by legal fudge) paperwork, conditions and unlawful guidelines by which to routinely crush the European Patent Convention (EPC) http://techrights.org/2022/04/05/swpats-fake-growth/ [19:06] TR Bot The EPO is Granting Loads of Software Patents in Order to Fake Growth | Techrights [19:07] matey preferably in the ear [19:07] bnchs and also their proprietary engine can go fuck somewhere else [19:08] matey maybe tim can shove it back where he pulled it out of [19:08] ciphrCat some dirt on Lemmy if anyone is interested https://termbin.com/596i [19:08] Alternative link CloudFlare: termbin.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://termbin.com/596i https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://termbin.com/596i [19:08] matey wheres the source to the clownflare bot ciphrCat [19:08] bnchs ciphrCat: you come back once a year [19:08] bnchs wheres the source code to that clownflare bot [19:08] matey someone wants the clownflare detection routine [19:09] matey oh hes here [19:09] ciphrCat well i didn't write that bot but I can get in touch with the author if needed [19:09] bnchs well sure [19:10] bnchs i'm willing to modify some of it [19:11] ciphrCat well, i don't find him.. he finds me. :) I can tell him ppl in techrights want the code next time he reaches out to me [19:12] bnchs well for now, we're stuck with a proprietary bot [19:12] bnchs and if he's unwilling, i'll just write from scratch [19:12] matey interesting http://web.archive.org/web/20220404220426/www.privacytools.io/guides/jonah-aragon-privacyguides-failed-attempt-to-takeoverit would be nice to know exactly how it determines clownflare or not [19:12] TR Bot ( status 404 @ http://web.archive.org/web/20220404220426/www.privacytools.io/guides/jonah-aragon-privacyguides-failed-attempt-to-takeoverit ) [19:13] ciphrCat if the bot code has been published, it would be here https://mypdns.org/dCF/deCloudflare [19:13] TR Bot Crimeflare / deCloudflare GitLab [19:13] matey we looked [19:13] ciphrCat and either way, certainly the bot would make use of that repo [19:13] matey we couldnt find the code there [19:14] bnchs ciphrCat: wait crimeflare is still alive? [19:14] bnchs i thought it died when the codeberg repo got taken down [19:14] *zleap (~zleap@user/zleap) has joined #techrights [19:14] *matey has quit (connection closed) [19:15] ciphrCat perhaps this helps Im about 80% certain the bot would make use of this service https://sercxi.nnpaefp7pkadbxxkhz2agtbv2a4g5sgo2fbmv3i7czaua354334uqqad.onion/ss/tool_qdb.php [19:15] TR Bot not resolve host: sercxi.nnpaefp7pkadbxxkhz2agtbv2a4g5sgo2fbmv3i7czaua354334uqqad.onion; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://sercxi.nnpaefp7pkadbxxkhz2agtbv2a4g5sgo2fbmv3i7czaua354334uqqad.onion/ss/tool_qdb.php ) [19:15] ciphrCat bnchs: there was fallout w/codeberg indeed, but the crimeflare project lives on strong.. it bounces around, mirrors, and rebrands. [19:15] bnchs ciphrCat: doesn't work in tor browser [19:16] ciphrCat that link works for me in TB [19:16] ciphrCat oh shit, sorry [19:16] ciphrCat lemme have a look (they changed the host) [19:16] bnchs i want the bot to not be centralized on IA only [19:17] bnchs there's a service called memento time travel [19:17] bnchs https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/ [19:17] TR Bot Time Travel [19:17] bnchs searches archives on more than just internet archive [19:17] ciphrCat https://ombrelo.pkduaxfk6lrmo2be4yr6ke5pqzsujihywsggfb7tocnz7x3vqqkhfoqd.onion/ss/tool_qdb.php new link [19:17] TR Bot not resolve host: ombrelo.pkduaxfk6lrmo2be4yr6ke5pqzsujihywsggfb7tocnz7x3vqqkhfoqd.onion; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://ombrelo.pkduaxfk6lrmo2be4yr6ke5pqzsujihywsggfb7tocnz7x3vqqkhfoqd.onion/ss/tool_qdb.php ) [19:18] ciphrCat that tool just does the detection task [19:18] bnchs yeah i know [19:18] *techrights_guest|79 (~50bb519f@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [19:18] bnchs i've also come across a blog [19:18] bnchs well [19:18] bnchs a cloudflare detection site [19:18] bnchs with a blog detailing how it works [19:19] bnchs http://www.doesitusecloudflare.com/ [19:19] TR Bot Does it use CloudFlare? [19:19] bnchs fuck wrong site [19:20] bnchs no it's that [19:21] ciphrCat btw, if anyone wants the full story on the Codeberg-Crimeflare fiasco, its documented here https://git.sdf.org/humanacollaborator/humanacollabora/src/branch/master/codeberg.md [19:21] TR Bot humanacollaborator/humanacollabora: Collaboration tools - codeberg.md at master - humanacollabora - SDF GIT Society [19:21] bnchs https://www.selesti.com/news/checking-for-cloudflare [19:21] Alternative link CloudFlare: selesti.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.selesti.com/news/checking-for-cloudflare https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.selesti.com/news/checking-for-cloudflare [19:21] TR Bot Checking for Cloudflare [19:21] bnchs ironic [19:21] bnchs cloudflare'd site "checking for cloudflare" [19:22] ciphrCat that site popped up during cloudbleed iirc, and i'm not sure it's useful or well maintained. It wouldn't be as good as the tool i posted [19:22] TR News LXD 5.0 LTS released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163383 [19:22] TR Bot LXD 5.0 LTS released | Tux Machines [19:23] ciphrCat but yeah, hypocrisy indeed.. which we see a lot of with CF sites [19:23] TR News Xfce Terminal 1.0.0 is a Feature-Packed Major Upgrade After a Year Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163384 [19:23] TR Bot Xfce Terminal 1.0.0 is a Feature-Packed Major Upgrade After a Year | Tux Machines [19:23] bnchs even then [19:23] bnchs the blog does have some info [19:23] bnchs like doing a nameserver lookup [19:23] bnchs and checking for clownflare nameservers, checking for clownflare HTTP headers [19:23] bnchs checking for clownflare SSL certs [19:24] ciphrCat you have to decide if nameserver matters to you [19:24] TR News Maui Shell Alpha released (convergent desktop environment for Linux phones and PCs) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163365#comment-33279 [19:24] TR Bot Maui Shell's First Alpha Release Looks Promising | Tux Machines [19:24] bnchs does it? [19:25] ciphrCat some sites use CF for the nameserver but not as a proxy. Theyre less of a problem, but they can spontaneously flip a switch and be using the CF proxy so that is why some ppl avoid even sites that use CF nameservers [19:25] *u-amarsh04 has quit (connection closed) [19:25] ciphrCat so there's the constant threat that they become cloudflared all of the sudden and you get tricked into feeding CF your traffic [19:26] bnchs so basically check the HTTP headers? [19:26] bnchs and SSL cert? [19:26] ciphrCat CF is getting so big that some will only check with a site is currently proxied through CF. Depends on the use case. [19:27] ciphrCat well the tool tells you.. it'll say NS if it's just a CF nameserved site, and something different if it proxies through cf [19:27] bnchs even then [19:28] bnchs the tool is not free software (or is it) [19:28] ciphrCat you click the test link after doing a query [19:29] ciphrCat its probably free s/w, but unlikely shared. I suspect its what RMS would call free in the trivial sense [19:29] ciphrCat s/w need not be distributed to be free [19:29] ciphrCat in any case, if you have an issue with that you can always check the headers for cf-ray [19:29] bnchs well ok [19:29] bnchs at least it is executed in the server-side [19:29] bnchs and not client-side [19:30] bnchs anyway thanks [19:30] ciphrCat np [19:30] TR News "We want to add signatures to individual files that are part of shipped RPMs. These signatures will use the Linux IMA (Integrity Measurement Architecture) scheme, which means they can be used to enforce runtime policies to ensure execution of only trusted files." https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Signed_RPM_Contents [19:31] TR Bot Changes/Signed RPM Contents - Fedora Project Wiki [19:31] psydruid so apparently Musk has joined the Twitler board [19:32] TR News ICBM turns very malicious. "Make UEFI a hardware requirement for new Fedora installations on platform" https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DeprecateLegacyBIOS see http://techrights.org/wiki/UEFI [19:32] TR Bot Changes/DeprecateLegacyBIOS - Fedora Project Wiki [19:32] TR Bot UEFI - Techrights [19:32] ciphrCat A few yrs ago Twitter came under the control of a Trump supporter. I guess Elon couldn't be worse. [19:32] TR News "In January, we published Anaconda is getting a new suit to let you know that were looking to modernize and improve Anacondas user experience. Before starting the redesign work for the Anaconda installer, the team reviewed user feedback and usability study data that weve gathered over the years." https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/anaconda-is-getting-a-new-suit-and-a-wizard/ [19:32] TR Bot Anaconda is getting a new suit and a wizard Fedora Community Blog [19:33] immibis Elon will probably be about as ineffective as Trump and then it will come out that all of Elon's funding is also from Putin [19:34] TR News Fedora -- like SELinux -- increasingly shaping up to be NSA-controlled distro. Red Hat and ICBM love imperialism. Pentagon a big "client" (money from taxpayers). [19:35] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163385 [19:35] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [19:36] ciphrCat well i don't know where Elon stands on politics. He hangs out with rt. wing extremists like Peter Thiel but he seems relatively less political, just money focused [19:37] TR News https://www.uefa.com/ decided to start delivering EMPTY pages, even to some Web browsers with JS enabled. The WWW needs to be abandoned at this point. It became another Adobe Flash or Gulag Trash. [19:37] TR Bot official website for European football | UEFA.com [19:37] Alternative link CloudFlare: uefa.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.uefa.com/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.uefa.com/ [19:41] TR News You should just stop Spotify, period. It's DRM. https://mashable.com/article/spotify-user-privacy-settings [19:41] Alternative link CloudFlare: mashable.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://mashable.com/article/spotify-user-privacy-settings https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://mashable.com/article/spotify-user-privacy-settings [19:41] TR Bot How to stop Spotify from sharing your data, and why you should [19:44] TR News Clownflare is NOT DDOS protection, it IS the DDOS. [19:44] immibis ciphrCat: money-focused is manipulable. Just look at Trump. [19:44] *techrights_guest|79 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [19:46] TR News Installation and Review of Q4OS Linux [Lightweight Distro] https://www.tecmint.com/q4os-linux/ Source: TecMint FreeSW | GNU | Linux [19:46] Alternative link CloudFlare: tecmint.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.tecmint.com/q4os-linux/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.tecmint.com/q4os-linux/ [19:46] TR Bot Installation and Review of Q4OS Linux [Lightweight Distro] [19:47] TR News How to document war crimes in the digital age https://www.codastory.com/newsletters/war-crimes-in-digital-age/ [19:47] Alternative link CloudFlare: codastory.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.codastory.com/newsletters/war-crimes-in-digital-age/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.codastory.com/newsletters/war-crimes-in-digital-age/ [19:47] TR Bot How to document war crimes in the digital age - Coda Story [19:50] TR News This stuff never belonged on the Internet in the first place https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsma-22-095-01 [19:50] TR Bot LifePoint Informatics Patient Portal | CISA [19:51] TR News "A varied selection of Discoveries including Telegraf, writing tools, a book about networking, and fixing a Mac. Plus your feedback about Matrix bridges, virtualisation, Pocket alternatives, the BBC, game development, and more." https://latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-171/ [19:51] TR Bot Late Night Linux Episode 171 Late Night Linux [19:52] TR News "Hello and welcome to Episode #462 of Linux in the Ham Shack" https://lhspodcast.info/2022/04/lhs-episode-462-hamfest-and-lhs-deep-dive-2/ [19:52] TR Bot LHS Episode #462: Hamfest and LHS Deep Dive | Linux in the Ham Shack [19:53] TR News GNU/Linux dominant, as usual https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2022/04/05/most-reliable-hosting-company-sites-in-march-2022.html [19:53] Alternative link CloudFlare: netcraft.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2022/04/05/most-reliable-hosting-company-sites-in-march-2022.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2022/04/05/most-reliable-hosting-company-sites-in-march-2022.html [19:53] TR Bot Most Reliable Hosting Company Sites in March 2022 | Netcraft News [19:55] TR News The company whose founder flew with Russia to space took 1.5 months to post this https://ubuntu.com//blog/canonical-standing-with-ukraine [19:55] Alternative link CloudFlare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/canonical-standing-with-ukraine https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://ubuntu.com//blog/canonical-standing-with-ukraine [19:55] TR Bot with Ukraine | Ubuntu [19:57] TR News security things in Linux v5.10 https://outflux.net/blog/archives/2022/04/04/security-things-in-linux-v5-10/ Source: outflux [19:57] TR Bot security things in Linux v5.10 codeblog ● Apr 05 [20:00] TR News Following someone (or subscribing, or "friending" them) means adding their RSS feed/s. Social control media is a mirage. You subscribe to nothing but a large, selfish company, which MIGHT relay updates to you. When it wants to. Maybe never. It bans, too. [20:01] TR News 272: Behind The Scenes of Destination Linux - Destination Linux https://destinationlinux.org/episode-272/ Source: destinationlinux [20:01] TR Bot 272: Behind The Scenes of Destination Linux - Destination Linux [20:01] ciphrCat techrights has no articles on Lemmy [20:10] schestowitz-TR url? [20:12] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/22032845 [20:12] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.imgur.com/duXvROc.png created on 2022-03-28 18:37:53.888826 [20:13] TR News iprogrammer posting webspam for LF? Did LF pay for this spam like in fossforce? https://www.i-programmer.info/news/150-training-a-education/15330-applications-open-for-lift-scholarships.html see http://techrights.org/2021/09/23/lf-diploma-mill-and-narrative-control-by-fake-research/ [20:13] TR Bot Applications Open For LiFT Scholarships [20:13] TR Bot Linux Foundation and Other Diploma Mills Say Theres Demand for Their Products in Their New Research (Marketing) | Techrights [20:18] bnchs ciphrCat: lol on lemmy using rust [20:18] bnchs i would stay 1000 ft away from that [20:20] ciphrCat there are lots of reasons to stay the hell away from Lemmy, starting with automatic censorship of a hard-coded regular expression of profanity, in English, where the banned tokens match normal words in other languages [20:20] bnchs "starting with automatic censorship of a hard-coded regular expression of profanity, in English, where the banned tokens match normal words in other languages" [20:20] bnchs link the source code to this [20:21] bnchs i mean where in the source code does this do [20:21] ciphrCat i'd really have to dig but i know it's in the mastodon fedi [20:22] TR News Best remote desktop for Linux in 2022 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163386 [20:22] TR Bot Best remote desktop for Linux in 2022 | Tux Machines [20:22] TR News mjg59 | Bearer tokens are just awful https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/59353.html [20:22] Alternative link CloudFlare: dreamwidth.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/59353.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/59353.html [20:22] TR Bot mjg59 | Bearer tokens are just awful [20:23] TR News "A new release 0.2.17 of RInside arrived on CRAN and in Debian today. This is the first release in two years since the 0.2.16 release." http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/blog/2022/04/01#rinside_0.2.17 [20:23] TR Bot Thinking inside the box [20:24] TR News "Armadillo is a powerful and expressive C++ template library for linear algebra aiming towards a good balance between speed and ease of use with a syntax deliberately close to a Matlab." http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/blog/2022/04/04#rcpparmadillo_0.11.0.0.0 [20:24] TR Bot Thinking inside the box [20:27] TR News "A new version 0.0.8 of RcppSpdlog is now on CRAN. RcppSpdlog bundles spdlog, a wonderful header-only C++ logging library with all the bells and whistles you would want that was written by Gabi Melman, and also includes fmt by Victor Zverovich." http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/blog/2022/04/04#rcppspdlog_0.0.8 [20:28] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:29] TR News "My copy is the UK first pressing which includes the track "Qu'ran" which was removed from later editions (and re-instated again later on)." https://jmtd.net/log/My_Life_In_The_Bush_Of_Ghosts/ [20:29] TR Bot jmtd log My Life In The Bush Of Ghosts [20:29] ciphrCat shit bnchs left before i could answer [20:30] TR News Vulkan 1.3.211 available https://vulkan.org/ [20:30] Alternative link CloudFlare: vulkan.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://vulkan.org/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://vulkan.org/ [20:30] TR Bot Home | Vulkan | Cross platform 3D Graphics [20:30] schestowitz-TR ciphrCat: no, his connection is not stable [20:30] ciphrCat the code used to be here but now it's a 404 (probably just a project renaming) https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/blob/master/server/lemmy_utils/src/lib.rs#L259 [20:30] TR Bot ( status 404 @ https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/blob/main/server/lemmy_utils/src/lib.rs ) [20:30] schestowitz-TR shithub hosting is a bad sign [20:31] ciphrCat yup [20:31] schestowitz-TR it does not make you a bad person but a less trustworthy one [20:32] TR News deepin 20.5 overview | Beautiful and Wonderful - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=3HqR0xQi2_s Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia [20:32] TR Bot deepin 20.5 overview | Beautiful and Wonderful - Invidious [20:33] TR News "Man. City have enjoyed the lion's share of possession so far, with 72% of the ball in the opening 30 minutes" (OK, but goals are needed) [20:35] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Quit: siren) [20:36] *bnchs (~bnchs@2btxzcmxjb8iq.irc) has joined #techrights [20:36] bnchs ciphrCat: just answer, i'll use scrollback [20:36] bnchs anyway saw your message [20:37] bnchs the code used to be here but now it's a 404 (probably just a project renaming) https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/blob/master/server/lemmy_utils/src/lib.rs#L259 [20:39] ciphrCat https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/blob/main/src/lib.rs if that's the same file, then the regex has moved [20:39] TR Bot at main LemmyNet/lemmy GitHub [20:39] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:40] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163387 [20:40] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [20:40] *bnchs (~bnchs@tg48nymyxknbi.irc) has joined #techrights [20:41] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@bymdnm2npdwji.irc) has joined #techrights [20:41] bnchs https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/blob/master/crates/utils/src/utils.rs [20:42] TR Bot at main LemmyNet/lemmy GitHub [20:42] bnchs mention of slur_regex [20:42] DaemonFC The version of Vulkan shipped in Debian 11 seems to be good enough for all of the games this laptop is capable of running. [20:42] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/22032760 [20:42] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://preview.redd.it/dwochbsar4381.jpg?auto=webp&s=7b59396456d3cc3a99f9c70c9b5c7a3b2fc3cc69 created on 2022-03-27 22:52:27.868169 [20:42] bnchs ciphrCat: slur removal functions in https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/blob/c7f533709918cc559254a7f2ccd0263335d17c69/crates/utils/src/utils.rs [20:42] TR Bot at c7f533709918cc559254a7f2ccd0263335d17c69 LemmyNet/lemmy GitHub [20:42] bnchs takes a string and a regex as parameters [20:43] *swaggboi has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [20:43] TR News "We plan to release Tails 5.0 on May 3 or May 31. It will be the first version of Tails based on Debian 11 (Bullseye). It brings new versions of most of the software included in Tails and some important usability improvements." http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163379#comment-33280 [20:43] TR Bot Tails 5.0 Enters Beta Testing as First Release Based on Debian GNU/Linux 11 Bullseye | Tux Machines [20:44] bnchs https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/blob/master/crates/utils/src/test.rs [20:44] TR Bot at main LemmyNet/lemmy GitHub [20:44] bnchs Slur removal tests [20:44] TR News Q4OS 4.8 Gemini, stable Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163389 [20:44] TR Bot Q4OS 4.8 Gemini, stable | Tux Machines [20:44] bnchs "faggot test kike tranny cocksucker retardeds. Capitalized Niggerz. This is a bunch of other safe text." [20:44] bnchs expected: "*removed* test *removed* *removed* *removed* *removed*. Capitalized *removed*. This is a bunch of other safe text." [20:46] schestowitz-TR better to test things in another channel tbh [20:46] bnchs no [20:46] schestowitz-TR we have channels for tests [20:46] bnchs i'm simply citing the slur removal shit that lemmy has [20:46] bnchs so yeah i'm sorry for the slurs but it's what the file has [20:47] bnchs the default slur_regex: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/b18ea3e0cc620c3f97f9804c09b92f193809b846/config/config.hjson [20:48] TR News Peace through Pegasus: Jordanian Human Rights Defenders and Journalists [cr]acked with Pegasus Spyware - The Citizen Lab https://citizenlab.ca/2022/04/peace-through-pegasus-jordanian-human-rights-defenders-and-journalists-hacked-with-pegasus-spyware/ Source: citizenlab [20:48] TR Bot Peace through Pegasus: Jordanian Human Rights Defenders and Journalists Hacked with Pegasus Spyware - The Citizen Lab [20:49] TR News Ukraines Internet System Is A Hidden Weapon In The War (VIDEO) https://www.newsy.com/stories/ukraine-s-internet-system-is-a-hidden-weapon-in-the-war/ Source: newsy [20:49] TR Bot Ukraine's Internet System Is A Hidden Weapon In The War (VIDEO) [20:49] bnchs so basically lemmy by defaul [20:49] bnchs has a slur filter [20:49] bnchs and the only way to disable it is to empty the slur_regex [20:50] ciphrCat bnchs: i think it improved since they constantly get heat over the slur filter. I recall a time when I composed a long msg that matched and the UI blocked me from even submitting the post. It didn't say what word it had an issue with. I had to go through a huge effort to track down the problem and a substring of a harmless word match that shitty regex [20:50] XRevan86 MinceR: Um and? [20:50] XRevan86 MinceR: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/retard#French [20:50] TR Bot retard - Wiktionary [20:51] bnchs retard is late in french [20:51] MinceR https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/retard#English [20:51] TR Bot retard - Wiktionary [20:51] bnchs which i know [20:51] TR News Ursula von der Leyen works for the US or the USA Empire(R) https://www.politico.eu/article/data-oecd-privacy-shield-national-security/ see http://techrights.org/2019/12/21/albrecht-ladson-von-der-leyen/ [20:51] Alternative link CloudFlare: politico.eu | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.politico.eu/article/data-oecd-privacy-shield-national-security/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.politico.eu/article/data-oecd-privacy-shield-national-security/ [20:51] TR Bot The Wests plan to keep global data flows alive POLITICO [20:51] bnchs besides lemmy shouldn't even have a slur filter [20:51] TR Bot Understanding Thierry Breton: Little Miss Ladson Goes to Brussels | Techrights [20:51] bnchs reddi didn't have a slur filter [20:51] XRevan86 MinceR: But there's text in French afterwards. [20:51] MinceR where? [20:52] MinceR i see spanish, italian and portuguese [20:52] TR News Bezos propaganda wars https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/30/mykhailo-fedorov-ukraine-digital-front/ [20:52] Alternative link CloudFlare: washingtonpost.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/30/mykhailo-fedorov-ukraine-digital-front/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/30/mykhailo-fedorov-ukraine-digital-front/ [20:52] MinceR and something that looks like it was meant to be english [20:52] TR Bot How Ukraines Mykhailo Fedorov is fighting a digital war - The Washington Post [20:52] bnchs ciphrCat, lemmy shouldn't even have a word filter [20:52] bnchs it's a step below reddit [20:52] bnchs even reddit didn't have a word filter [20:53] bnchs btw it flags mudslime [20:53] TR News Distracting from the fact so much of the OSI's resources go to Microsoft, which attacks the mission? https://opensource.org/blog/google-ospo-why-we-support-the-osi [20:53] TR Bot Google OSPO: Why we support the OSI | Open Source Initiative | Guaranteeing the 'our' in source... [20:53] XRevan86 MinceR: I saw "" and immediately assumed French. No matter, it's a Romance word. [20:53] MinceR english is partially romance too [20:54] XRevan86 MinceR: Hence why the first meaning listed on Wiktionary for English is "delay". [20:55] TR News They're killing the Internet https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-digital-transformation-mykhailo-fedorov-russia-blockade/ [20:55] Alternative link CloudFlare: politico.eu | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-digital-transformation-mykhailo-fedorov-russia-blockade/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-digital-transformation-mykhailo-fedorov-russia-blockade/ [20:55] TR Bot Ukraine minister pleads to expand digital blockade on Russia POLITICO [20:55] ciphrCat bnchs: that slur filter has changed a lot. Only six words now. Previously it was a huge thing, and it didn't check word boundaries. So a word like kike (IIRC) would be the substring for many harmless words and it would trigger. [20:55] *swaggboi (~swaggboi@slackware.uk/supporter/swaggboi) has joined #techrights [20:56] bnchs yeah [20:56] bnchs but still [20:56] XRevan86 mental retardation just means delayed mental development [20:56] bnchs lemmy shouldn't have a slur filter [20:56] ciphrCat and b/c of the slur filter, you couldn't even quote someone else who used slurs [20:56] MinceR or, in the case of many humans, no mental development [20:56] bnchs it's quite retarded [20:56] bnchs *BEEEEEEEEEEEP* [20:56] XRevan86 MinceR: That's the absolute literal meaning. [20:56] bnchs *FORBIDDEN SLUR, CENSORING* [20:56] TR News When it comes to spy cities, Russia is way behind. But now we have a new whipping boy. https://www.codastory.com/newsletters/russia-smart-cities/ [20:56] Alternative link CloudFlare: codastory.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.codastory.com/newsletters/russia-smart-cities/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.codastory.com/newsletters/russia-smart-cities/ [20:56] TR Bot Authoritarians love smart cities. Russia is no exception - Coda Story [20:56] bnchs it's quite *removed* [20:56] TR News Unreal Engine 5 and Steam Deck Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163390 [20:56] TR Bot Unreal Engine 5 and Steam Deck | Tux Machines [20:57] bnchs i'm gonna *removed* your mom you *removed* *removed* [20:57] DaemonFC Walmart's website has said "out of eggs" for a while, which is how they stop people from buying things when there's a shortage. [20:57] DaemonFC Today they give me a pack of 18 extra large eggs that I didn't even order, plus some free orange juice. [20:57] DaemonFC :/ [20:57] ciphrCat bnchs: Lenny is the reason for the Lemmy slur filter. Its a fork that removes the slur filter [20:57] bnchs good for lenny [20:57] ciphrCat err, i mean the lemmy slur filter is the reason for lenny [20:58] TR News "The legal action was submitted jointly by the International Federation of Human Rights (FIDH), the Human Rights League (LDH), and Salah Hammouri." https://www.accessnow.org/legal-action-nso-group/ [20:58] Alternative link CloudFlare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/legal-action-nso-group/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.accessnow.org/legal-action-nso-group/ [20:58] TR Bot Facing the consequences: Access Now welcomes legal action against NSO Group - Access Now [20:58] bnchs even then [20:58] bnchs good for lenny [20:58] bnchs lenny should be a good fork [20:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 38.81 k/sec., IPFS upstream 69.33 average k/sec., average swarm size 262.36 [20:59] bnchs it's fucking dumb [20:59] bnchs that lemmy once hardcoded the slur regex [20:59] bnchs they should just go back to twitter and be done with it ● Apr 05 [21:01] TR News So many of the articles in Phoronix are about a company with so little market share compared to the rest. But it pays Phoronix. http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/phoronix-went-too-far/ [21:01] TR Bot When Blogs Become Marketing and Benchmarks Become Product Promotions | Techrights [21:01] bnchs ciphrCat: lemmy shouldn't be a thing if it's creators are such a SJW [21:01] immibis https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/784187861850652742/960991298070913156/unknown.png [21:01] Alternative link CloudFlare: discordapp.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/784187861850652742/960991298070913156/unknown.png https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/784187861850652742/960991298070913156/unknown.png [21:02] bnchs they should just go back to twitter [21:04] DaemonFC I wonder how you would go about installing Wine on Fedora Silverblue. [21:04] DaemonFC I think maybe install it as an RPM into the OSTree and then reboot? [21:04] TR News I'm very disappointed with FOSS Force. Yearx ago FOSS Force correctly explains that the Linux Foundation was bad. Months ago it started running paid ads for Linux Foundation and now it runs spammy puff pieces for Linux Foundation. FOSS Force sold out. It knew it sold out. [21:04] DaemonFC Silverblue recommends Flatpaks, but I wonder how well that's going to work for Wine. I know Lutris is developing a Flatpak version. [21:05] DaemonFC Technically you could install each of your Windows applications into Lutris as a video game and them just run them that way. [21:05] TR News Linux Foundation acts as a corruption funnel for anti-Linux companies. They use Linux Foundation as a vessel to pass bribes and suppress critics. [21:06] DaemonFC I may use my older laptop to try out Fedora 36 Silverblue when it's out and see what I think of it. [21:06] DaemonFC Then again, one wonders how long that will stay working. Fedora has turned into the Windows 11 of Linux recently. "If it's more than 2 years old, just throw the whole computer in the trash." Like Apple. [21:07] TR News Meanwhile, Jack Wallen did a WSL puff piece (WSL is an ATTACK on GNU/Linux) and now posts from ZDNet, which derives money from Microsoft and LF to ATTACK GNU/Linux [21:08] TR News Microsoft is just bribing to attack Linux. Not just bribing OEMs to NOT offer GNU/Linux but bribing sites and writers to defect. Microsoft is crime. [21:08] *AdmFubar1 has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [21:10] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Fedora Leader criticized Nvidia. Perhaps it's time for ICBM Rat Crap to find New Fedora Leader and delete Fedora Leader's Tweet. "Offending Nvidia" [21:10] TR News Microsoft: we need not compete. We need only BRIBE the competitors to STOP competing. [21:10] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: yes, I showed you that [21:11] schestowitz-TR code has feelings too [21:11] schestowitz-TR binaries are sensitive [21:11] DaemonFC Nvidia's proprietary driver was pretty lousy even in X.org's heyday. [21:11] schestowitz-TR stop offending binary blogs [21:11] schestowitz-TR behead all those who insult NVIDIA!! [21:12] DaemonFC And it was developed to work with X11, and in fact, Nvidia was the one petitioning for distributions to stick to X11 just over them. [21:12] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/22032749 [21:12] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/8w1714uit6p81.jpg created on 2022-03-27 19:56:32.797110 [21:14] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Their website description starts out "Nvidia, inventor of the GPU.". Gee, I didn't know they went back in time to the 1980s and bought Commodore. [21:15] DaemonFC So that's what they've been doing with the Buttcoin money. Linking Nvidia cards until they have the processing power of the T-800's CPU chip and can manipulate the time vortex. [21:17] TR News Wow. LF went out of its way again to hide its use of proprietary software for "Open Source" report [21:18] DaemonFC MinceR, The Eleventh Doctor/Skynet really screwed up by sending the original T-800 in the reboot timeline. [21:19] MinceR :) [21:19] DaemonFC Why would it do that if it already had a T-1000 there? [21:19] DaemonFC That movie made no sense. [21:20] DaemonFC MinceR, I watched Terminator Genisys with John, and he said "The T-1000 is Asian this time?"" I said, "Yeah, it gets better gas mileage, but if it's Korean you need to watch out for engine explosions and the occasional brake line fire.". [21:20] MinceR lol [21:21] MinceR and if it's chinese, you'd better just stay away from any chance of an impact [21:23] DaemonFC MinceR, It made more sense for the T-1000 to disguise itself as an Asian man if you think about it. [21:24] DaemonFC The liquid metal's defect was that it was not as strong as the T-800 endoskeleton. The Robert Patrick form could fight the T-800 but was noticeably easier to disable. [21:25] DaemonFC I think it literally spread itself too thin. By taking a seemingly smaller form, but with the same mass, Skynet probably corrected this problem. [21:25] DaemonFC The T-1000 in Genisys seemed to recover from bullet wounds and being deformed faster. [21:26] DaemonFC It's an example of looks being deceiving. [21:29] DaemonFC To dial up the cohesion factor of the liquid metal fixed the problem of taking too long to return to service after sustaining damage, but would have looked odd. How do you fix it? Pick a human form that seems smaller and less imposing. [21:30] DaemonFC Better camouflage at the same time. [21:31] *AdmFubar1 (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has joined #techrights [21:31] DaemonFC MinceR, Notice how earlier on, Skynet had a problem of making killing machines that could actually trick people? [21:32] AdmFubar1 the first sentence in the second paragraph is priceless: https://www.windowscentral.com/windows-mixed-reality-clings-relevancy-march-2022-steam-survey-stats [21:32] Alternative link CloudFlare: windowscentral.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.windowscentral.com/windows-mixed-reality-clings-relevancy-march-2022-steam-survey-stats https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.windowscentral.com/windows-mixed-reality-clings-relevancy-march-2022-steam-survey-stats [21:32] TR Bot Windows Mixed Reality clings to relevancy in March 2022 Steam survey stats | Windows Central [21:32] DaemonFC First it made obvious killing machines that people screamed and ran away from. Then it made ones that could get closer before you realized they were fake, and that might work. Then it made physically imposing models that looked human, but all of the templates were body builders so not quite as believable as just a plain looking human. Those came last. [21:32] DaemonFC Those were the most sophisticated. [21:34] DaemonFC I think the reason the newer movies are failing is they copy what the first two did, while requiring the viewer to suspend their belief way too much. [21:35] DaemonFC Good Sci-Fi only makes the viewer suspend their belief a little bit, sparingly, to grease the plot a little bit. [21:35] DaemonFC There's not much of that anymore. [21:38] DaemonFC Aliens works because nothing happens in the movie that would be "impossible" to survive if you accept the notion that there's some space marines and some really nasty xenomorphs up against each other. One reason Terminator: Salvation doesn't work is because the T-800 at the end beat John Connor's head in to the point that any real human would have suffered a broken neck, skull fragmentation, and brain damage to the point of being dead 50 times [21:38] DaemonFC over, and then he just keeps fighting it. And it doesn't manage to kill him until it pierces his heart? [21:38] bnchs bethesda moved to steam [21:38] bnchs epic games shills got angry like a monkey [21:38] DaemonFC Bethesda was on Steam before Microshit bought them. [21:38] DaemonFC Now they recompile the game and push updates that they know Wine won't work with. [21:39] bnchs "nooooo, you gotta have to put your gaymes in epic gaymes store" [21:39] bnchs "the store that hates gnu/linux" [21:39] DaemonFC They pushed one for Fallout 4 and broke it under Wine for a couple of years. [21:39] DaemonFC And it's only starting to work right again. [21:39] immibis then fix wine. it's open soucre [21:40] DaemonFC That's what's happened. [21:40] bnchs immibis: yes [21:40] bnchs reverse engineer whatever shitty internal windows API they used [21:40] DaemonFC It turned out that those APIs that were missing from Wine were missing for good reason, you know. [21:40] DaemonFC Nothing important used them. [21:40] bnchs shitty (obscure) internal windows API they used [21:40] DaemonFC Now that Microsoft is breaking things by making them depend on those APIs, they're being added to Wine. [21:40] *kingoffrance (~xx@4mmu4fx6g3jvs.irc) has joined #techrights [21:41] psydroid2 better to "fix" Windows by putting it out of its misery [21:42] DaemonFC For starters, most video games that played music did not do that with the XAudio2 API. [21:42] DaemonFC There was really no reason to. They could just bundle some MP3s and use DirectShow and it all worked. [21:42] AdmFubar1 more googly/youtube shenanigans https://torrentfreak.com/judge-drops-antitrust-claims-from-youtube-piracy-lawsuit-220404/ [21:42] Alternative link CloudFlare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/judge-drops-antitrust-claims-from-youtube-piracy-lawsuit-220404/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://torrentfreak.com/judge-drops-antitrust-claims-from-youtube-piracy-lawsuit-220404/ [21:42] TR Bot Drops Antitrust Claims From YouTube Piracy Lawsuit * TorrentFreak [21:43] bnchs epic games is like microsoft [21:43] bnchs they make games exclusive [21:43] psydroid2 we have the upper hand [21:43] bnchs they BRIBE developers to make their games exclusive to their store [21:43] kingoffrance that sounds like sony, nintendo, sega, ... [21:43] kingoffrance pretty sure thats gone on forever [21:43] bnchs kingoffrance: yeah but [21:44] bnchs epic games has been bribing hard [21:44] kingoffrance im not defending it :) [21:44] psydroid2 Windeads are scared of GNU/Linux running on non-Intel/AMD hardware [21:44] psydroid2 cheap TV boxes running GNU/Linux should be(come) a thing [21:44] bnchs i don't like steam [21:45] bnchs but at least they're doing a good job trying to make their games work on GNU/Linux [21:45] psydroid2 I don't have Steam [21:45] bnchs unlike tim swine-e [21:45] TR News Linux Foundation Starts Hiding What Software It Uses to Make Reports (But Readers Can Guess) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/05/lf-hiding/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/05/lf-hiding/ [21:45] TR Bot Linux Foundation Starts Hiding What Software It Uses to Make Reports (But Readers Can Guess) | Techrights [21:45] psydroid2 but I like seeing what they do for taking market share away from Windows [21:46] bnchs yeah [21:46] bnchs but tim swine-e is on microsoft's team [21:47] DaemonFC https://www.gamesradar.com/cyberpunk-2077-patch-notes/ [21:47] TR Bot 2077 patch 1.52 fixes a laundry list of bugs | GamesRadar+ [21:47] psydroid2 which means tim's swine-e's time is up [21:47] bnchs https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/1489568243056578562 [21:47] TR Bot They laugh now but it'll have a billion users by version 10. And it's an open platform. https://t.co/CuRtHdTKJY [21:47] TR Bot Report: Microsoft HoloLens 3 is dead as its mixed-reality vision implodes | PCWorld [21:47] DaemonFC Automatic Love - Walking into a wall in the elevator in Megabuilding H8 will no longer cause instant death. [21:47] DaemonFC Automatic Death [21:47] bnchs "They laugh now but it'll have a billion users by version 10. And it's an open platform. " - Tim swine-e to microsoft hololens [21:47] bnchs "open platform" "open platform" [21:47] bnchs he's indeed a broken record [21:48] bnchs nothing but a microsoft shill [21:48] psydroid2 Intel, AMD, Microsoft, Nvidia, Apple, Google and other companies all suffer from megalomania, thinking that they have it all figured out [21:48] psydroid2 but that's just a faade [21:48] bnchs so us military helps microsoft with taxes [21:48] bnchs on a dead product [21:48] psydroid2 they can never be sure that they won't get wiped out by some disruptive new technology [21:49] bnchs and tim swine-e supports it [21:49] psydroid2 possibly not from the US [21:49] psydroid2 I think it's foolish to spend so much on hardware and software that doesn't have any added value [21:50] psydroid2 we already have all the hardware we need for most purposes [21:51] immibis psydroid2: no company can. Capitalism is dumb like that. [21:51] immibis people should not be punished for new technology being invented. [21:51] immibis that just encourages the suppression of new technology. [21:51] bnchs tim swine-e puts other companies like google and apple for being "closed platform" blah blah blah, but openly shills microsoft [21:51] bnchs not just a little [21:51] bnchs just outright SHILLING [21:52] psydroid2 I ignore that guy [21:52] bnchs the problem is that many games are at his store [21:52] bnchs and they accomplished it with.... you know [21:53] kingoffrance well, i think thats too harsh. probably some dollaring, pesoing, etc. [21:53] TR News Cython is 20! | Stefans Welt http://blog.behnel.de/posts/cython-is-20/ Source: behnel [21:53] TR Bot Cython is 20! | Stefans Welt [21:54] psydroid2 microsoft is scared of losing a whole generation of computer users [21:54] psydroid2 but I think it's already too late [21:54] TR News radv: LBVH! (!15648) Merge requests Mesa / mesa GitLab https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/15648?commit_id=7c974119a6e555fa9edd237d69658ecb7cee1942 Source: gitlab [21:54] TR Bot radv: LBVH! (!15648) Merge requests Mesa / mesa GitLab [21:54] psydroid2 fortunately [21:55] bnchs "It shouldt be like this. Windows users are free to install software from sources of their choosing, and Microsoft doesnt interfere. Apple and Google are alone in making their store monopolies tools of national censorship and protectionism." [21:55] kingoffrance lol [21:55] bnchs https://nitter.net/TimSweeneyEpic/status/1492928834395676674#m [21:55] TR Bot Tim Sweeney (@TimSweeneyEpic): "Microsoft is unique among major tech companies in making a detailed, substantial statement of platform principles. Theres a saying: its only a principle if it costs you. And, Xbox dodge aside, this is a promise to compete fairly with much at stake. https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-lists-new-open-app-store-principles-microsoft-store-and-its-other-marketplaces" | nitter [21:56] bnchs https://nitter.net/TimSweeneyEpic/status/1492931388013789191#m [21:56] TR Bot Tim Sweeney (@TimSweeneyEpic): "Remember Google put out a fake principles statement with some platitudes about open platforms and then walked it all back, saying theyre entitled to undermine competing stores technically and contractually, and impose a payment monopoly. https://blog.google/outreach-initiatives/public-policy/how-sustain-safe-thriving-app-and-game-ecosystem/" | nitter [21:56] kingoffrance global corporation feigns nationalism, points at other global corporation and says they are traitors to the homeland [21:56] bnchs double standards are common in tim swine-e's brain [21:56] bnchs microsoft good but google bad [21:56] kingoffrance india good [21:56] kingoffrance where else is ms lol [21:57] psydroid2 [21:57] XRevan86 ? [21:57] psydroid2 [21:58] TR News CVSS v3 9.8 (!!!!!!) https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsma-21-187-01 [21:58] TR Bot Philips Vue PACS (Update B) | CISA [21:59] XRevan86 psydroid2: , :) [21:59] psydroid2 :D ● Apr 05 [22:00] bnchs i don't support apple nor epic games [22:00] bnchs it's good that apple is getting punished for their walled garden [22:00] bnchs but at the same time, epic games is in bed with microsoft [22:00] kingoffrance in this case ms is pushing "globalism" and saying the others are "nationalists" "protectionists" but that is besides the point, since they are acting as if they are above any "nation" and hence creating a hypothetical "globalville" country [22:00] psydroid2 the "nice" thing about apple is that their walled garden is meaningless [22:01] kingoffrance it really works either way: point as "nationalists" as "protectionism" or point at "globalists" as "protectionism" [22:01] psydroid2 it's not as if you develop software for macOS but not for GNU/Linux [22:01] psydroid2 anyone who does that is foolish [22:01] schestowitz-TR swine-e higging ballmer in the mud [22:01] schestowitz-TR *hugging [22:01] TR News It would be nice to think that the Linux Foundation quit using proprietary software for its reports on "Open Source"; but if that happened, it would not hide the metadata (as shown above) http://techrights.org/2022/04/05/lf-hiding/ [22:01] TR Bot Linux Foundation Starts Hiding What Software It Uses to Make Reports (But Readers Can Guess) | Techrights [22:01] psydroid2 and even if there is exclusive software for macOS, you can just ignore it [22:01] psydroid2 because it's not going to be embedded in any organisation [22:02] psydroid2 it hasn't happened in 50 years [22:02] psydroid2 so why should it happen now [22:02] *psydroid2 doesn't know when exactly Apple was founded [22:02] TR News The cult of Amiga and SGI, or why workstations matter | Random thoughts of Peter CzP Czanik https://peter.czanik.hu/posts/cult-amiga-sgi-workstations-matter/ Source: PeterCzanik [22:02] TR Bot The cult of Amiga and SGI, or why workstations matter | Random thoughts of Peter 'CzP' Czanik [22:02] kingoffrance somewhere i saw a coc terms of service that you cannot discriminate against "caste" LOL [22:03] schestowitz-TR lol [22:03] schestowitz-TR CoC's minds will be blown, knowing the multitude of cultural baggages [22:03] schestowitz-TR does CoC say something about serving kosher and haram foods? [22:03] schestowitz-TR not YET? [22:04] kingoffrance well its like lee you cannot discriminate against kings lol [22:04] schestowitz-TR does it impose quotas for people with lack of limbs? [22:04] schestowitz-TR they don't try to solve any technical issues [22:04] schestowitz-TR just more pretexts for removing community members [22:04] schestowitz-TR based on some shitpost or tweet from 15 years ago [22:05] schestowitz-TR (they've repeatedly done this to Torvalds and RMS) [22:05] schestowitz-TR btw, bkuhn went out of his way to delete all his dents [22:06] schestowitz-TR months ago Zemlin deleted ALL his tweets [22:06] schestowitz-TR those CoC lovers know it can be weaponised against them, too [22:06] schestowitz-TR they go about evaporating what they wrote [22:06] schestowitz-TR while digging dirt in their 'enemies' [22:06] DaemonFC " "They laugh now but it'll have a billion users by version 10. And it's an open platform. " - Tim swine-e to microsoft hololens" [22:06] schestowitz-TR this is so Soviet Stalin [22:07] schestowitz-TR and they tell us it's about manners and decency [22:07] schestowitz-TR whey they stalk remarks out of context [22:07] schestowitz-TR like Torvalds responding to provocation [22:07] DaemonFC Easier to harass people who make products that sell and turn your apps into a tapeworm infestation, like what Microsoft did to Samsung. [22:07] bnchs DaemonFC: Tim swine-e reacting to microsoft hololens DYING [22:07] bnchs He was citing an article that was saying that hololens was dying [22:07] schestowitz-TR but biden paid 22 BILLION to Microsoft for it [22:07] schestowitz-TR no? [22:08] schestowitz-TR so it's a scam [22:08] schestowitz-TR also, Microsoft fired all that staff [22:08] schestowitz-TR Microsoft is now a US espionage service [22:08] schestowitz-TR funded by taxpayers [22:08] schestowitz-TR against their will [22:08] DaemonFC "XAudio2 abstracts audio generation by separating sound data from "voice", allowing each voice to be filtered by programmable digital signal processing and effects processing functions. Voices can be "submixed" together into a single stream. " [22:08] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/ [22:08] TR Bot The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers Expense | Techrights [22:08] DaemonFC I don't even know what this means. I'm sure there's a patent. [22:08] bnchs The cult of Amiga and SGI, or why workstations matter | Random thoughts of Peter CzP Czanik [22:08] bnchs man i'm in love with amiga and SGI computers [22:09] TR News Microsoft is not a company. Microsoft is organised crime. But it presents itself as a company. http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/ [22:09] DaemonFC It seems Microsoft is baiting Wine and Vulkan into depending on their patents, and then with the ultimate plan of suing. [22:09] schestowitz-TR either suing or blackmailing [22:09] psydroid2 bnchs, are you also in love with their prices? [22:09] schestowitz-TR do X, or we sue [22:09] schestowitz-TR ask Samsung [22:09] schestowitz-TR Microsoft did sue them [22:10] *zleap has quit (Quit: Leaving) [22:10] bnchs psydroid2, sheesh no [22:10] schestowitz-TR then Samsung before carrier of Microsoft viruses [22:10] psydroid2 it makes me wonder what this guy is trying to sell exactly [22:11] TR News European Parliament recognises Free Software as key for fair HEY HI https://fsfe.org/news/nl/nl-202204.en.html [22:11] TR Bot AI in EU +++ Open letter to Bundestag +++ Plasma Mobile +++ Meshnet - FSFE [22:11] kingoffrance well its pretty funny. the intelligence services got to google, apple, you name it, but they left ms alone lol [22:11] DaemonFC If you want Android without the parasites (Microsoft and Carrier Junk) you pretty much have to buy a phone from Google now. [22:12] kingoffrance people have suggsted the lack of prosecution in the 90s was a "deal" made lol [22:12] schestowitz-TR yeah [22:12] kingoffrance i mean, ms is older if nothing else, its just amazing spin of history [22:13] DaemonFC Apple turns over detailed files on their users apparently without even verifying that the person making the request is a police officer. Much less has a warrant. See; https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/04/assholes-are-now-forging-emergency-data-requests-to-talk-tech-companies-out-of-user-data/ [22:13] schestowitz-TR some report said microsoft had lost money in 1998 [22:13] Alternative link CloudFlare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/04/assholes-are-now-forging-emergency-data-requests-to-talk-tech-companies-out-of-user-data/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/04/assholes-are-now-forging-emergency-data-requests-to-talk-tech-companies-out-of-user-data/ [22:13] TR Bot Are Now Forging Emergency Data Requests To Talk Tech Companies Out Of User Data | Techdirt [22:13] schestowitz-TR and we also know mass bribery keeps them funded [22:13] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: I linked to it earlier [22:13] DaemonFC So "Apple Privacy". Your ex who might be stalking you to murder you, can just go to them and say he's a cop. [22:13] kingoffrance time is not on their side. time is on the side of they got to ms first, and then the internet companies came later [22:13] DaemonFC They turn over everything. [22:13] schestowitz-TR quests-to-talk-tech-companies-out-of-user-data/[12:35] Bad laws beget bad faith https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/04/assholes-are-now-forging-emergency-data-requests-to-talk-tech-companies-out-of-user-data/ [22:13] Alternative link CloudFlare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/04/assholes-are-now-forging-emergency-data-requests-to-talk-tech-companies-out-of-user-data/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/04/assholes-are-now-forging-emergency-data-requests-to-talk-tech-companies-out-of-user-data/ [22:14] schestowitz-TR the wall street bubble need to burst already [22:14] schestowitz-TR it's growing [22:14] schestowitz-TR the bubble [22:14] schestowitz-TR the explosion will be bigger [22:14] bnchs and we also know mass bribery keeps them funded [22:14] bnchs so you mean [22:14] schestowitz-TR now the US progresses in another Cold War [22:14] bnchs if people became less corruptible [22:14] schestowitz-TR as the economy rots domestically [22:15] bnchs then microsoft would go out of [22:15] bnchs business???? [22:15] schestowitz-TR they can blame "the war" [22:15] schestowitz-TR bnchs: it's not even a business anymore [22:15] DaemonFC https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/05/florida-has-already-wasted-over-700k-of-taxpayer-funds-defending-its-unconstitutional-content-moderation-bill/ [22:15] Alternative link CloudFlare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/05/florida-has-already-wasted-over-700k-of-taxpayer-funds-defending-its-unconstitutional-content-moderation-bill/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/05/florida-has-already-wasted-over-700k-of-taxpayer-funds-defending-its-unconstitutional-content-moderation-bill/ [22:15] TR Bot Has Already Wasted Over $700k Of Taxpayer Funds Defending Its Unconstitutional Content Moderation Bill | Techdirt [22:15] schestowitz-TR they're bailed out by US taxpayers [22:15] DaemonFC " Floridas bill was tossed out as unconstitutional, fairly easily. While an appeal on that ruling will be heard soon, all this is doing is racking up Floridas expensive legal bills." [22:15] schestowitz-TR who already are tens of trillions in debt [22:15] schestowitz-TR so they're like a scam [22:16] bnchs so they managed to get bailed out [22:16] DaemonFC Indiana didn't care how much money it spent defending the gay marriage ban law. Mike Pence forked over $7 million state taxpayer dollars to both the state's attorneys and to the people who sued (after the state lost). [22:16] bnchs by showing them a vaporware product [22:17] DaemonFC It's all political posturing. Voters reward them for losing $7 million because "they tried" to attack gays and it just didn't work out. [22:18] bnchs i'm gonna kick bill gates' ass so hard, he won't be able to sit anymore [22:18] bnchs this is not covid-19 misinformation [22:18] DaemonFC If they hadn't tried to defend the ban and just gave the money back to the taxpayers, they all would have gotten at least $10 added on to their "surplus refund" that year. Instead, it all went to some lawyers who didn't even care who won the court case. [22:18] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:19] DaemonFC The worst part about living under a state is that it takes your money and uses it in ways you do not agree with. [22:19] DaemonFC For example, Illinois taxes everyone who lives here and uses the money to kill babies with. [22:19] DaemonFC Do you want to be a murderer? No? Too bad. You have to fund it anyway. -The State [22:20] TR News Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163391 [22:20] TR Bot Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [22:20] bnchs i'm pretty sure if they went bankrupt in 1998 [22:20] bnchs then, there wouldn't be so much software depending on windows [22:20] DaemonFC The feds at least bother to joke about spending your tax money wisely. [22:21] DaemonFC They don't mention that under "flood insurance" they pay oligarchs to stuff their money in shoreline condos in Miami that will be destroyed in hurricanes or by rising sea levels. [22:22] DaemonFC They don't mention that "crop insurance" pays corporations to deliberately plant things on land that floods frequently just so they can claim a loss and get your money. [22:23] TR News A new tool unsnap helps you move from Snaps to Flatpaks Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163392 [22:23] TR Bot A new tool 'unsnap' helps you move from Snaps to Flatpaks | Tux Machines [22:24] schestowitz https://www.thelandcle.org/stories/land-conservancy-wants-to-up-vacant-lots-littering-the-city [22:24] TR Bot ( status 404 @ https://www.thelandcle.org/stories/land-conservancy-wants-to-up-vacant-lots-littering-the-city ) [22:24] DaemonFC schestowitz, The bubble is the government. [22:27] *lightweight (~6d466456@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [22:27] DaemonFC https://www.theverge.com/2022/4/4/23010608/amazon-worker-social-app-banned-words-union-living-wage [22:27] TR Bot These are the words Amazons planned employee chat app reportedly wont let you say - The Verge [22:27] DaemonFC schestowitz, They learn from China I guess. [22:27] DaemonFC "With the filter in place, the app would block or flag messages that include words like union, slave labor, grievance, living wage, and more. Oh yeah, it would filter out restroom, too (probably to prevent you from telling your coworker you just went to the restroom in a bottle)." [22:27] TR News Ubuntu MATE 22.04 Hits Beta, and "Jammy Jellyfish" Is Looking Good So Far MUO - MakeUseOf http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163197#comment-33282 [22:27] TR Bot Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Beta Released with GNOME 42 Desktop, Linux Kernel 5.15 LTS | Tux Machines [22:28] DaemonFC "The app would block unfair, master, slave, injustice, ethics, diversity, and fairness" [22:28] lightweight but it wont block mmaster [22:29] TR News "The credentials are even more insecure than we could have imagined: access to an email address. And the data, of course, isnt very secure. But imagine how this kind of thing could be abused with a law enforcement encryption backdoor." https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/04/hackers-using-fake-police-data-requests-against-tech-companies.html [22:29] TR Bot Using Fake Police Data Requests against Tech Companies - Schneier on Security [22:29] DaemonFC "pay raise, and phrases like This is dumb or This is concerning." [22:29] *cybrNaut has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [22:29] *ciphrCat has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:29] DaemonFC Why would anyone who worked there create an account on this? [22:29] DaemonFC So the company could monitor them and censor all of their posts? [22:30] lightweight does it block nazi besos [22:30] bnchs lightweight: hello [22:30] DaemonFC Our teams are always thinking about new ways to help employees engage with each other, Amazon spokesperson Barbara Agrait said in a statement to The Verge. This particular program has not been approved yet and may change significantly or even never launch at all. If it does launch at some point down the road, there are no plans for many of the words youre calling out to be screened. The only kinds of words that may be scree [22:30] DaemonFC ned are ones that are offensive or harassing, which is intended to protect our team [22:30] DaemonFC Protect them from the pay raises! [22:30] DaemonFC MinceR, ^ [22:30] schestowitz-TR hi lightweight [22:31] lightweight hi [22:31] schestowitz-TR are you dave lane? [22:31] lightweight who? [22:31] TR News GNU Health declared Digital Public Good http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163372#comment-33283 [22:31] TR Bot GNU Health and Other GNU Projects (Amin Bandali Continues Mike Gerwitz's Work) | Tux Machines [22:31] schestowitz-TR lightweight: someone who goes by your nickname [22:31] schestowitz-TR free s/w advocate from nz [22:31] bnchs "GNU Health declared Digital Public Good http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163372#comment-33283" [22:31] *ciphrCat (~ciphrCat@v75kd7krrqfvs.irc) has joined #techrights [22:31] MinceR DaemonFC: i think they're having their employees think about new ways to express those things [22:32] bnchs congrats [22:32] lightweight foes it blocks besos is the boss [22:33] TR News What Git aliases are in your .bashrc? | https://opensource.com/article/22/4/git-aliases-bashrc don't use Microsoft GitHub in the examples. GitHub is an ATTACK on Git. [22:33] TR Bot Git aliases are in your .bashrc? | Opensource.com [22:33] MinceR not only new words, new spellings and new expressions, but also new chat services [22:34] DaemonFC MinceR, I was out driving today and some retard who couldn't bother to check his side mirror or signal pulled out into my lane. Then when I swerved and missed him, he gave me the finger. [22:34] DaemonFC Why I hate living in cities. [22:34] MinceR there are other reasons to hate it too [22:34] DaemonFC Eh, I gave him the finger too. [22:34] MinceR and most of them have to do with high population density [22:34] *cybrNaut (~cybrNaut@joseon-tto.k1n.ssv8hv.IP) has joined #techrights [22:34] kingoffrance this newspeak thing sounds exciting MinceR, what could possibly go wrong? [22:34] MinceR :> [22:35] DaemonFC Maybe they could call Bezos "Pooh Bear", like Xi. [22:35] bnchs DaemonFC: sometimes i feel like i'm playing a first-person video game [22:35] bnchs then i realize ughhh, i'm playing real-life [22:35] lightweight "Pooh Bear" doesent hace Z in it [22:35] schestowitz-TR operation beZos [22:35] MinceR (cat) (no audio) https://i.imgur.com/icaNAk9.mp4 [22:35] Alternative link CloudFlare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/icaNAk9.mp4 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://i.imgur.com/icaNAk9.mp4 [22:36] bnchs wait wait a minute [22:36] DaemonFC Or maybe if restroom is banned they can just say "I'm going to the Jeff because I have to take a major Bezos. Cover me for a few minutes, will you?". [22:36] bnchs did the bot change [22:36] MinceR it apparently has 2 alternatives now [22:37] TR News LOL. "Use Microsoft AppLocker or other similar"... CVSS v3 8.6 ... HIGHLY severe. The title says nothing about Microsoft amd Windows https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-095-01 see http://techrights.org/2022/04/04/lies-infiltration-and-nsa/ [22:37] TR Bot Rockwell Automation ISaGRAF | CISA [22:37] bnchs altlink_cd4, [22:37] TR Bot Lies, Infiltration, and the National Security Agency | Techrights [22:37] bnchs altlink_cd4, s [22:38] bnchs i forgot the repo [22:38] bnchs well whatever [22:38] DaemonFC Oh man, that was a good Bezos. I think my pants fit better. The John Harrington is very fulfilled. [22:38] immibis is france really holding an election this week to determine whether to become fascist [22:38] kingoffrance lol @ harrington [22:40] immibis oh, no, it's a normal election with a fascist party among other parties like usual [22:40] TR News "Motorsport Manager is pretty much Team F1 in a more modern shape. It even has the 2D view of the race simulation - you really don't need fancy 3d graphics to get the immersion of a race day. Feeling like a teenager again... :)" gemini://en.gmn.clttr.info/ [22:42] schestowitz-TR immibis: whether to become MORE facist [22:42] schestowitz-TR *fascist [22:43] bnchs yes [22:43] bnchs he published the irc bot source code [22:44] schestowitz-TR it's open soros [22:48] TR News Corporate Openwash Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163394 [22:48] TR Bot Corporate Openwash | Tux Machines [22:48] bnchs it's a php file.. [22:48] TR News Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163393 [22:48] TR Bot Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [22:56] TR News Audiocasts/Shows/Videos: Destination Linux, Linux in the Ham Shack, Late Night Linux, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163395 [22:56] TR Bot Audiocasts/Shows/Videos: Destination Linux, Linux in the Ham Shack, Late Night Linux, and More | Tux Machines [22:56] TR News todays lefovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163396 [22:56] TR Bot today's lefovers | Tux Machines [22:57] *kingoffrance has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:58] TR News Links 05/04/2022: Firefox 99, Q4OS 4.8, and LXD 5.0 LTS Released | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/05/lxd-5-0-lts/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/05/lxd-5-0-lts/ [22:58] TR Bot Links 05/04/2022: Firefox 99, Q4OS 4.8, and LXD 5.0 LTS Released | Techrights [22:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 19.63 k/sec., IPFS upstream 69.33 average k/sec., average swarm size 324.23 ● Apr 05 [23:06] DaemonFC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJ38zxYopSQ [23:06] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=dJ38zxYopSQ [23:06] TR Bot yewtu.be | Fedora Linux Review - NEW Updated Apps! GNOME 42 Desktop - (2022) Workstation (36) - Invidious [23:07] DaemonFC Might be worth kicking around. [23:07] DaemonFC I left Ubuntu originally because of the crackpot desktop decisions. [23:08] bnchs they smoked crack during the design [23:08] DaemonFC They still do it. Even in the upcoming LTS, they mix and match pieces of GNOME which were not meant to be installed alongside one another, and were not tested by upstream for that. [23:10] DaemonFC LOL. The Ubuntu 22.04 LTS ISO is about a full GB larger than Fedora 36's ISO. [23:11] bnchs still fits in a DVD [23:11] DaemonFC It does, if anyone uses those. [23:11] DaemonFC But it does sort of say how much extra crap is going to be on the hard disk if you use Ubuntu. [23:11] *ziraffep has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:12] DaemonFC I like to start out with a pretty vanilla desktop and few programs installed. [23:13] bnchs you could store the entirety of english wikipedia [23:13] bnchs current revision [23:13] bnchs in about 5 fucking DVDs [23:13] bnchs well compressed [23:14] bnchs well [23:14] bnchs inaccurate [23:15] bnchs As of February 2013, the XML file containing current pages only, no user or talk pages, was 42,987,293,445 bytes uncompressed (43 GB). The XML file with current pages, including user and talk pages, was 93,754,003,797 bytes uncompressed (94 GB). The full history dumps, all 174 files of them, took 10,005,676,791,734 bytes (10 TB). [23:15] bnchs first one: 10 DVDs [23:15] bnchs second one: 21 DVDs [23:16] bnchs third one: 2175 DVDs [23:23] immibis bnchs: DVDs are obsolete [23:23] immibis believe it or not [23:24] bnchs immibis: shut up [23:24] bnchs DVDs are still used [23:24] immibis bnchs: at the very least you could upgrade to blu-ray and put the first one on 1 blu-ray and the second one on 1 dual-layer blu-ray [23:24] immibis or wait, maybe the 50gb ones were dual-layer [23:24] immibis i'm sure i've seen 100gb blu-ray disks [23:24] immibis blu-ray is still obsolete though as a data storage medium. Plain old hard drives are where it's at. [23:25] immibis they're actually cheaper per terabyte than blu-ray, last I checked [23:32] bnchs oh really???? [23:32] bnchs immibis, can you think of a cheap bluray drive? [23:35] immibis bnchs: well I have one, I don't remember how much it cost, but clearly not too much considering that I bought it without any plans and I've still never read or written a single disk of any variety whatsoever [23:35] immibis google suggests in the <100 range [23:36] immibis it's even internal because my PC case is old enough to have physical media drive slots - fancy that [23:37] immibis (there's even a slot for a floppy drive. Turns out PC cases have better forwards compatibility than Windows) [23:51] DaemonFC JWZ recently had more problems with his Mac. [23:51] DaemonFC Because of the amazing immutable root file system. [23:54] MinceR he gets what he deserves [23:56] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:56] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving)