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| psydread | I'm wondering if I'm still connected | Aug 05 00:09 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Yes | Aug 05 00:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Okay, got the car back. | Aug 05 00:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No more giant hole in the side of the intake manifold. Running much better. Yay. | Aug 05 00:14 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Other than the cracked plenum there was absolutely nothing wrong with any of it. | Aug 05 00:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A little wear, but nothing outrageous. | Aug 05 00:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Sad.... | Aug 05 00:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | GM over designed this thing so that if anything went wrong it was not going to be a cheap repair. | Aug 05 00:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I already replaced the lower intake last year because the gasket ruptured and it was leaking coolant and oil all over the place. | Aug 05 00:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Some asshole next door is playing (c)rap music all day and until the wee hours of the morning. | Aug 05 00:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So I've either been playing my own music or walking around/sleeping with earplugs in. | Aug 05 00:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's the kind of neighbor where if you knock to ask them to turn it down please, you might get some extra ventilation. | Aug 05 00:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Who else would listen to that shit? | Aug 05 00:35 |
| psydread | is that stuff popular over there? | Aug 05 00:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah. If you're not racist, living in Illinois will take care of some of that for you very quickly. | Aug 05 00:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | My state rep wants to outlaw history classes in school because history be rayciss. | Aug 05 00:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | These idiots have infested the government. Of course they have. When the majority of the people who could possibly find themselves in a voting booth act like idiots, who will they vote for? An idiot who panders to them. They don't like history class? Just make it illegal. | Aug 05 00:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Problem solved. | Aug 05 00:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He says he wants to replace it with a "civics class" to teach people "how to participate in democracy". | Aug 05 00:39 |
| psydread | because if I think of Chicago, I tend to think of rock bands from there, although there may be other decent music from there as well | Aug 05 00:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Read; How to vote for more assholes who hate white people and say everything be rayciss. | Aug 05 00:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Lake County court system is a complete joke. They have like 25,000 unserved warrants going well back into the 1980s. | Aug 05 00:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like a chump, I showed up to court to take what I had coming to me, and the prosecutor tried to tell the judge that I was a flight risk. | Aug 05 00:41 |
| MinceR | it's a bit late for civics classes, isn't it? | Aug 05 00:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I interrupted my attorney and said "Your honor, with all due respect, I'm here and if I was a flight risk there wasn't an energy shield at the state line that would have stopped me during the past month that I was on bail and didn't run.". | Aug 05 00:42 |
| MinceR | "hey kids, here's how you could participate in democracy in uhmerica, back when it still existed!" | Aug 05 00:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <MinceR "it's a bit late for civics class"> Civics lessons would only work on people who are capable of thought. | Aug 05 00:43 |
| MinceR | same applies to democracy, republics, etc. | Aug 05 00:43 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | People who fuck and reproduce and have 50 outstanding arrest warrants and skip out on all the women they have chasing them down in Child Support court are not going to be fixed by a civics lesson. | Aug 05 00:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 12 year olds who are executing people with handguns for gangs need more than a civics lesson. | Aug 05 00:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm sorry that they think history class is the cause of all their problems, but a culture of ignorance that makes people who got shot a few times a famous rapper talking about drugs and pussy is beyond saving. | Aug 05 00:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Blaming white people for everything. They get a lot of mileage from that because saying it's ridiculous makes you rayciss. | Aug 05 00:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You always have a choice to go fill out a job application instead of picking up a gun and robbing people and using drugs. | Aug 05 00:46 |
| MinceR | > Blaming white people for everything. | Aug 05 00:46 |
| MinceR | you can thank crybullies for that | Aug 05 00:46 |
| MinceR | racism is "hip" and "cool" again! just remember to direct it against white people. | Aug 05 00:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Working at McDonalds pays $13 an hour here and you won't have to stick a gun in my face and make off with a cell phone worth $50 and split it three ways. | Aug 05 00:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | What else is there to say? | Aug 05 00:47 |
| MinceR | like the rust CoC, because mozilloids believe people in the majority groups are inferior | Aug 05 00:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They have an entire "black history month". | Aug 05 00:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A whole month. | Aug 05 00:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | What if we decided to have a white history month to talk about all the great things white people did? | Aug 05 00:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Or special college grants and lowered test requirements that only white people got? | Aug 05 00:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They'd have a full nuclear meltdown. | Aug 05 00:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They've learned nothing. These fucking assholes brought Trump down on all of us because people got sick of hearing about how everything that's not their fault is their fault because you're a loser. | Aug 05 00:48 |
| MinceR | :> | Aug 05 00:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Hey, I have respect for people who don't act like a fucking idiot and have an entitlement mentality that oh we're going to raid this small grocery store and smash things up and steal all the money they have because of a dirty cop in Minnesota. | Aug 05 00:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They destroyed several city blocks full of small family-owned businesses in Waukegan and somehow they had to do it because of George Floyd. | Aug 05 00:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The cops do nasty shit to white people. You never hear about it. Nobody is interested in what they do to you if you're white. | Aug 05 00:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Doesn't play to their narrative that the cops treat them especially bad. | Aug 05 00:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | What they did to George Floyd is really fucked up. It is. | Aug 05 00:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If I was sitting on that jury, I for one would find all three of them guilty and hang them if I could. | Aug 05 00:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | People doxxed George Floyd after he was murdered to go looking for criminal records and found some. They're irrelevant to what happened in Minnesota. | Aug 05 00:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think it was like robbery in Texas 10 years ago or something. | Aug 05 00:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He got punished for that and hadn't been in any trouble for 10 years. | Aug 05 00:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Most states let you expunge something that old. Indiana has a law that gives you a once in a lifetime conviction expungement, but you can expunge as many arrests that didn't lead to one as you have. | Aug 05 00:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: I probably wouldn't use the once in a lifetime law on a minor misdemeanor unless it just kept coming up in employment or something. | Aug 05 00:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Something more serious could happen later and you don't get another one. | Aug 05 00:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm certainly not planning on a felony, but shit does happen. | Aug 05 00:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <MinceR "racism is "hip" and "cool" again"> Yeah, Matthew Garrett is like the liberal cuck poster child that they want so badly. | Aug 05 00:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Don't tell them he exists. | Aug 05 00:58 |
| schestowitz | he wants to silence critics | Aug 05 00:58 |
| MinceR | i think they know about him already | Aug 05 00:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'd say that I have political opinions that don't neatly align with the left/right definitions. | Aug 05 01:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In practice, it hardly matters because there's two parties. | Aug 05 01:00 |
| MinceR | and they'll both try to fuck you over | Aug 05 01:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No matter what the Democrats do, the Republicans are more disgusting somehow. | Aug 05 01:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's like the 1970s Republican Party or the Republic of Gilead Part. | Aug 05 01:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | *Party | Aug 05 01:01 |
| schestowitz | [22:44] <DaemonFC[m]> I hate doing this. | Aug 05 01:02 |
| schestowitz | [22:44] <DaemonFC[m]> Have to take Uber to the car repair place. | Aug 05 01:02 |
| schestowitz | yuck | Aug 05 01:02 |
| schestowitz | BTW, this was netsplit out | Aug 05 01:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, no way else to get there. My car was being repaired. | Aug 05 01:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The problem turned out to be much worse than I thought. | Aug 05 01:02 |
| schestowitz | taxi | Aug 05 01:02 |
| MinceR | and all the efforts the "democrats" make is to stay a _bit_ less disgusting | Aug 05 01:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Thought it was a vacuum line, turned out to be a cracked plenum on the intake manifold. | Aug 05 01:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It was a major vacuum leak. | Aug 05 01:03 |
| MinceR | their presidential candidates are emblematic of this | Aug 05 01:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's such bitter animosity between Trump and Pelosi that he won't even meet with her in person. | Aug 05 01:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | She ripped up his speech in the State of the Union Address. | Aug 05 01:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nationally, Pelosi is less popular than Trump is. | Aug 05 01:06 |
| *CrystalMath is now known as RubyRhod | Aug 05 01:06 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | But she only has to be elected from a district around San Francisco, so no need to worry about what people in a place like Florida think. | Aug 05 01:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A House Speaker of the opposite party can pretty much ruin a presidency if they feel like it. | Aug 05 01:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The job description pretty much turns into sabotage the president and demoralize his voters. | Aug 05 01:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Letting the government shut down until the president can't take it anymore is like the ultimate weapon here. | Aug 05 01:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I doubt that they'll fight about it too much this September but you never know. | Aug 05 01:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They'll do what they always do. Calculate who takes the most blame for it. | Aug 05 01:11 |
| *RubyRhod is now known as CrystalMoth | Aug 05 01:12 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | This is a really awful year. | Aug 05 01:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If Trump doesn't go away soon, we're finished. | Aug 05 01:13 |
| schestowitz | Bush hit the first blow, maybe Raegan | Aug 05 01:17 |
| schestowitz | but Trump is 'finishing the job' | Aug 05 01:18 |
| schestowitz | it was hardly stalled by Obama, either | Aug 05 01:18 |
| schestowitz | he was a bridge between Bush and Trump, even added more abuses in between | Aug 05 01:18 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/683106.jpg | Aug 05 01:26 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: the article we did on red hat now exceeds 100k views | Aug 05 01:29 |
| schestowitz | mostly yesterday | Aug 05 01:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Interesting that they felt they had to comment on that on Twitter. | Aug 05 01:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's a mass stealth firing spree going on in the tech industry and there may be collusion. | Aug 05 01:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They froze wages, froze new hiring, and started firing people at the same time. | Aug 05 01:31 |
| schestowitz | There was no real/effective refutation to it | Aug 05 01:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Some people are saying Microsoft's Azure division is hiring, but there's no way to tell if that's true or how many. | Aug 05 01:32 |
| schestowitz | except attacks on the person (me) | Aug 05 01:32 |
| schestowitz | ad hominem from one red hatter who said that the morale wasn't low | Aug 05 01:32 |
| schestowitz | and not disputing anything else | Aug 05 01:32 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: MSFT said months ago they had frozen hiring | Aug 05 01:33 |
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| schestowitz | my sister told me the same this week | Aug 05 01:33 |
| schestowitz | based on her friend's experience | Aug 05 01:33 |
| schestowitz | all the GAFAM won't hire | Aug 05 01:33 |
| schestowitz | and barely advertise anything | Aug 05 01:33 |
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| schestowitz | so the friend ended up downgrading to some dodgy little companies | Aug 05 01:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Citigroup management is apparently signaling layoffs. | Aug 05 01:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "We have to keep the company going." is their party line right now apparently. | Aug 05 01:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They don't deny layoffs are coming, they just say that when asked. | Aug 05 01:34 |
| schestowitz | many lies and evasions | Aug 05 01:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz "so the friend ended up downgradi"> Tech is in big trouble. | Aug 05 01:35 |
| schestowitz | well, economy shrank | Aug 05 01:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The "we'll do great because work from home positions us to grow" line seems to be fading. | Aug 05 01:35 |
| schestowitz | https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/08/03/the-plunge-in-consumption-of-services-leads-to-a-record-32-9-percent-drop-in-gdp/ | Aug 05 01:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Plunge in Consumption of Services Leads to a Record 32.9 Percent Drop in GDP - CounterPunch.org | Aug 05 01:35 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | And we're actually seeing layoffs, salary freezes, and no hiring. | Aug 05 01:36 |
| schestowitz | so think... 33% layoffs | Aug 05 01:36 |
| schestowitz | or... that much in unemployment gains | Aug 05 01:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Getting my car fixed today is the most I've spent in months excluding food and rent. | Aug 05 01:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | What do you do? That part was very old and brittle and eventually it just snapped and air leak. If you don't fix it very soon, it can start damaging other things down the line and then no car. | Aug 05 01:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Continuing to drive a car with vacuum leaks and a lean fuel/air mix will work until it doesn't. | Aug 05 01:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I didn't really feel like being in on a new catalytic converter as well. | Aug 05 01:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You do the math and I couldn't buy a newer car right now even if I had enough money. For starters, I'm paying nothing for the insurance right now. | Aug 05 01:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | As soon as I get any car titled to me, there's at least $90 a month on liability on top of anything that happens to the car. | Aug 05 01:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's always a cost of doing/not doing something. | Aug 05 01:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'd rather just drive this for a few years even if it does mean some repairs. | Aug 05 01:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Somehow, used car prices are going UP despite all of this. | Aug 05 01:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | What the hell is going on with that? | Aug 05 01:43 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I get alerts from Credit Karma about that Kia. They said the book value appreciated by $500 in the last month despite the car itself getting a month older. | Aug 05 01:44 |
| psydread | weird things are happening these days | Aug 05 01:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | How is this happening? The car's value went up on book $900 since March. | Aug 05 01:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This is like that Margaritaville episode of South Park where they determine that margarita mixer is worth $2 trillion by cutting a chicken's head off and letting it run around and fall onto a square. | Aug 05 01:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's a 2 year old Kia so $900 appreciation is actually about 8% of the total value. | Aug 05 01:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | How an the car be worth 8% more than it was in March? | Aug 05 01:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Presumably, shitdick has been driving it around as it physically aged another 120 days. | Aug 05 01:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <psydread "weird things are happening these"> Yeah, if 42% of renters in Illinois will be evicted as soon as the eviction moratorium ends, how are there not a bunch of car repos? | Aug 05 01:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's nothing stopping car repos. | Aug 05 01:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Skipping the rent to keep their car payments? | Aug 05 01:48 |
| psydread | better to live in your car, I guess | Aug 05 01:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, if your landlord sues and they get a judgment, they can put a lien on your car. | Aug 05 01:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So that's not exactly fantastic. | Aug 05 01:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you file bankruptcy, you may be able to exempt the equity in the car, but if it goes above $4,000 equity in Illinois, you have to declare the rest as part of the $4,000 wildcard, which is also what's protecting the money in your bank account from the Trustee. | Aug 05 01:50 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | psydread: I would really be looking to quote a book value that shows the lowest that the car would get on a private party sale if I was trying to protect my car in bankruptcy. | Aug 05 01:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like, don't just say "It has 50,000 miles on it." if you can type in "It has exactly 62,038 miles on it. | Aug 05 01:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Could be the difference in value of $1,000. | Aug 05 01:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So that's $1,000 less that the trustee could conceivably grab out of your bank account. | Aug 05 01:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If the exterior has dents and dings, don't say it's in "Excellent" shape. Say it's in "Fair" or "Good". | Aug 05 01:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You're not looking to sell it. You're looking at a plausible explanation to the trustee for why he can't take stuff from you. | Aug 05 01:54 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | If you want to exempt a four year old laptop, don't tell him what kind of a laptop it is. Just say "Well, it's a two year old laptop and Best Buy said they'd let me trade it in for $80." | Aug 05 01:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | *four | Aug 05 01:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Or a phone. Say "Well, it's a Galaxy S8 and those are barely worth anything on the open market, so I declare that this is worth maybe $60.". | Aug 05 01:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You're trying to knock the value of your own stuff to keep the Trustee's grubby little paws off it. | Aug 05 01:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Even if you exceed the exemption a little, the Trustee could determine that it's less than it would cost him to have someone come get it. | Aug 05 01:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So if you can denigrate your own car's value, and it still goes over, he might decide the overage is not worth the tow and having someone clean it up and put it up for sale. | Aug 05 01:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This is called "abandonment". | Aug 05 01:57 |
| psydread | so what is actually happening with this car? someone is playing some dirty trick on you? | Aug 05 01:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Kia? I abandoned my equity in it during the bankruptcy and told the Trustee where John was living. | Aug 05 01:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So none of the car's value went towards my exemption thresholds. I abandoned it, forced Kia to take my name off the finance agreement, and made the whole car John's problem. | Aug 05 01:59 |
| psydread | and now they smell money | Aug 05 01:59 |
| psydread | I presume | Aug 05 01:59 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | psydread: John can get my name off it, but he's going to have to pay $400 for a corrected title and show them where I filed bankruptcy and walked away from it. | Aug 05 01:59 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | That's on top of the three car payments I missed and ~$2,000 in fees he had to pay to cover the "repo" when I dropped it off at a dealer and took the plates off and canceled the insurance. | Aug 05 02:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He had to pay a lot of money to get the car back. | Aug 05 02:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | $404.913 for missed payments, 3$49 for late fees, $1,900 for repo+having them drive it to him, and $151 for replacement license plates. | Aug 05 02:01 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | errr $404.91 * 3 3 * $49 and $1900 and $151. | Aug 05 02:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | $3,415 to get the car back out of repo and the $400 to get my name off the title after I filed bankruptcy. | Aug 05 02:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So about $3,815 total. | Aug 05 02:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | psydread: I figured it was only fair. I had to pay my attorney $2,000 and the court a file of $939 because of his little stunt. | Aug 05 02:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So when I was good and late I let Kia repo the car and then told him where all of his money was and where he worked in case they needed to sue him. | Aug 05 02:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They talked to him and told him a lawsuit amounting to almost $25,000 was heading his way if he didn't redeem the loan and take the car back. | Aug 05 02:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I parked it next to this old clunker that a guy drives around to collect scrap metal. | Aug 05 02:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He door dinged it really bad on both sides. | Aug 05 02:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm never going to see it again. What do I care? | Aug 05 02:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's wear and tear. You park it and shit happens, right? | Aug 05 02:06 |
| psydread | yeah | Aug 05 02:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I also spent the whole summer seeing how fast it would go if I put the pedal down to the floor. | Aug 05 02:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Skipped the oil change it was due for. Put a bunch of miles on it driving around the state for no real reason. | Aug 05 02:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I park the Impala next to a Free Candy van that's been sitting there so long the tires are all flat. | Aug 05 02:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That way no shitdicks can park next to it and bang it up. | Aug 05 02:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I figured I was out on bail. I might go to prison soon. Might as well take in the air and get in some Grindr fun before I went. | Aug 05 02:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It was weird because I was tossing the idea of suicide around quite a bit for weeks after those cops were shouting at me. | Aug 05 02:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're terrible people. Like, they'll never just give you a citation and then let you go. | Aug 05 02:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They always have to make horrible threats that they can't even do. | Aug 05 02:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So for three weeks between them letting me out on bail and talking to my lawyer, I thought I could be looking at 3 years in prison. Not jail, prison. | Aug 05 02:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then I talked to my lawyer and he said that the worst thing that could even theoretically happen wasn't even a third as bad as what the cop said. | Aug 05 02:12 |
| psydread | I wonder what I would do if I got into such a situation, although I did get locked up and interrogated once for a few hours for something I didn't actually do | Aug 05 02:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They had me so twisted out of shape that the first thing I did when I got home was throw up. Then I started throwing everything I could carry into a suitcase so I could get out before John came back home. Then I read the bond terms. | Aug 05 02:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Says "Do not leave Illinois.". | Aug 05 02:14 |
| psydread | I know they try to intimidate you | Aug 05 02:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So I was stuck living there with him for three weeks before I moved out when he was at work. | Aug 05 02:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He knew that the police charged me with assaulting him and then released me and said "Well, you'll just have to find a way to get along.". They didn't tell me anything about the second assault charge. | Aug 05 02:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They played an episode of South Park last night where Officer Barbrady confiscates Cartman's safety scissors as a "weapon" and he says, "How the hell could I kill someone with that?" and the cop says "Don't worry, I'll think of a way!". | Aug 05 02:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's basically what happened to me. A 2.75" fishing knife that I had on me because I was fishing in the back yard became a "deadly weapon" so that they could turn it into aggravated assault. | Aug 05 02:18 |
| schestowitz | [01:42] <DaemonFC[m]> schestowitz: Somehow, used car prices are going UP despite all of this. | Aug 05 02:18 |
| schestowitz | Currency deflated | Aug 05 02:18 |
| schestowitz | home prices have a similar phenomenon | Aug 05 02:18 |
| schestowitz | so the purchasing power for savers diminishes too | Aug 05 02:18 |
| schestowitz | if food prices soar, there's revolt | Aug 05 02:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You mean inflated. | Aug 05 02:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Deflate means hold onto it and you basically have MORE buying power with the same amount. | Aug 05 02:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The banks are determined not to let that happen. | Aug 05 02:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The "deflationary spiral". | Aug 05 02:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Right now, I might as well just use money to fix my car before it gets even more outrageous in a few months. | Aug 05 02:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think we need to be saving less right now because I'm kind of prevented from investing anything and my bank balance can't go up past a certain point or else the bankruptcy trustee could notice and decide to take some. | Aug 05 02:21 |
| schestowitz | prices will go down when everyone gives up on their car | Aug 05 02:21 |
| schestowitz | creative oversupply of them | Aug 05 02:21 |
| schestowitz | *creating | Aug 05 02:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Mass repo after the bankruptcies? | Aug 05 02:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Recession creates opportunities for auto mechanics normally. | Aug 05 02:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Tight lending standards means few people qualify for a new car. Can't pay for one outright. | Aug 05 02:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So they repair the one they have enough to keep working. | Aug 05 02:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Enough to keep working obviously doesn't mean everything works quite right. It's just got to get you from A to B. | Aug 05 02:23 |
| acer-box | https://twitter.com/coisasdogeek/status/1290743153444687876?p=p | Aug 05 02:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@coisasdogeek: Rumores | 2 anos após a aquisição da Red Hat, a IBM estaria começando a demitir pessoal. https://t.co/PhwRwMTIuM | Aug 05 02:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 500 @ https://techrights.org/2020/08/02/red-hat-layoffs/ ) | Aug 05 02:23 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: These older engine designs that Ford and GM got rid of were well known for being reliable and properly taken care of could easily make it half a million miles or more. | Aug 05 02:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The newer ones used more and more cheap plastic wherever possible. | Aug 05 02:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Aluminum instead of iron. | Aug 05 02:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're not legendary for being reliable anymore, but neither is anything else on the car. | Aug 05 02:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They put turbos on them to get the displacement down, which puts more stress on everything. | Aug 05 02:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're built for gas mileage and to last perhaps 8 or 9 years. | Aug 05 02:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you keep putting money into them past that, you're nuts. | Aug 05 02:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So the car loan cycle starts over again. | Aug 05 02:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If the engine overheats for any reason with an aluminum block head, you're looking at the metal itself warping, most likely, in situations where on older engines you might need a new head gasket and not a lot else once the cause of overheating was fixed. | Aug 05 02:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: That BMW Maricel had amused me. | Aug 05 02:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's having problems that a car 4 times its age would be developing. | Aug 05 02:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | At 2.5 times the price to repair. | Aug 05 02:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Bad investment. Horrible investment. | Aug 05 02:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Impala is just one of those cars where if shit blows up, you just put new shit on it and go oh well, stuff happens. | Aug 05 02:30 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I think my big score were four new tires and an AGM car battery last year for $300 total after the rebates. :) | Aug 05 02:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I was reading about battery technology and decided to go with AGM technology even though it wasn't strictly necessary for this car, because it's just more reliable and they had a good sale going that made it like $10 more than a sealed lead acid model. | Aug 05 02:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The winters here get stupid cold. | Aug 05 02:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It doesn't seem prudent to try to hang onto $10 and end up stuck waiting for a jump start for potentially 3-4 hours (AAA) in the dead of winter somewhere. | Aug 05 02:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Yeah, I'm learning how to do less with the car. | Aug 05 02:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | My psychiatrist had his office secretary show him how to do video calls. | Aug 05 02:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So now I don't have to run the rat race down to his office in Chicago. | Aug 05 02:34 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Suits me just fine. There's a quarter tank of gas I don't have to burn each appointment. | Aug 05 02:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Seems like the magabanks are quietly laying people off. | Aug 05 02:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Affecting: Customer service call centers (being outsourced), branch employees, loan officers... | Aug 05 02:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's also speeding up closures of branches that were not very profitable before this mess started. | Aug 05 02:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I noticed that after the last recession, about half of Wells Fargo branches in Indiana closed. | Aug 05 02:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then around 2016, they announced that they were pulling bank branches out of rural areas altogether since they didn't have the profit margin they liked on those custoemrs. | Aug 05 02:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The banks have been trying to get their operating costs way down for years. Quietly replacing people with computer software and outsourcing what computers can't do. Closing branches where most of their customers are deposit account only. | Aug 05 02:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They were always trying to hard sell me to credit cards and car loans and mortgages. My current bank is starting to do this. | Aug 05 02:40 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Credit cards as an emergency fund are a terrible idea, but without them I would have been in serious trouble last year, schestowitz | Aug 05 02:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Stuck living with John hoping he didn't make good on his threat to call the cops again. | Aug 05 02:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Public Pretender for a lawyer. | Aug 05 02:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Absolutely no money with which to get this car in some kind of working order so I could tell John where to shove the Kia. | Aug 05 02:41 |
| schestowitz | in Luis | Aug 05 02:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Or himself. Wonder if he'd even feel it. He was in there banging against the wall while my mom was staying with me. | Aug 05 02:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | She asked me what that was. "It's John.". | Aug 05 02:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | What's he doing. | Aug 05 02:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "You don't want to know." | Aug 05 02:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I disposed of that thing before I left. | Aug 05 02:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | First message I get is "Where's my dildo?". | Aug 05 02:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He paid almost $200 for it apparently. | Aug 05 02:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Who pays $200 for something like that? | Aug 05 02:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm not thrilled when I have a car repair that's $200. | Aug 05 02:45 |
| schestowitz | can we talk about tech/science? | Aug 05 02:46 |
| schestowitz | the above is gossip | Aug 05 02:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah. Bad news for him I guess, is Grindr is trying to limit the fake accounts now. | Aug 05 02:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I saw people complaining it requires their phone number for a test verification now. | Aug 05 02:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | *text | Aug 05 02:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Probably also gives them some more assurance of whose data they're selling to Facebook. | Aug 05 02:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I suppose it could slow the cops down with their fake account creation unless they've been given special backdoors. Probably have. | Aug 05 02:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: It's a really bad program. Stephen Fry should be ashamed of himself for giving them free publicity. | Aug 05 02:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It feeds data to Facebook that's none of their goddamned business whether you have a Facebook account or not. | Aug 05 02:51 |
| schestowitz | don't turn the channel into 'Life of Ryan' | Aug 05 02:51 |
| schestowitz | this subject is better | Aug 05 02:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It also gives the cops another way to harass the gay community. There's lots of serious security problems that they're aware of that are used by stalkers and creeps and won't fix. | Aug 05 02:52 |
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| schestowitz | Grindr - how old is that thing? | Aug 05 02:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 11 years now. | Aug 05 02:52 |
| schestowitz | is it a gay thing? | Aug 05 02:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yes. | Aug 05 02:52 |
| schestowitz | the name is iffy | Aug 05 02:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I admit I've used it to hook up with people sometimes. | Aug 05 02:52 |
| schestowitz | when I heard it I think of R Kelly | Aug 05 02:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Not since I was married of course. | Aug 05 02:52 |
| schestowitz | Bump and Gring | Aug 05 02:52 |
| schestowitz | "i don't see nothing wrong"... | Aug 05 02:53 |
| schestowitz | (also with underage sex) | Aug 05 02:53 |
| schestowitz | (Grand | Aug 05 02:53 |
| schestowitz | *Grind | Aug 05 02:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, when I was single I didn't mind casual sex too much. | Aug 05 02:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It never occurred to me how many ways my data was being misused. | Aug 05 02:53 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Of course, before Grindr there were just Yahoo chatrooms and stuff. | Aug 05 02:53 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | There have been a lot of points in my life where I didn't want a serious relationship, and all of them until now have been disasters. So I'd just meet up with someone, and sometimes it turned into an ongoing thing. | Aug 05 02:54 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | There's always been tech and boards that were used for this. | Aug 05 02:54 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | All the way back to at least 1998, which is when I started using them as such. | Aug 05 02:54 |
| schestowitz | why do you make it all about yourself again? | Aug 05 02:55 |
| schestowitz | focus on tech | Aug 05 02:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | My point is Grindr isn't a new idea. | Aug 05 02:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It just focuses on that idea exclusively, but on the back end it's probably the worst spyware I've ever seen. | Aug 05 02:56 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | The police detective I talked to in Chicago says they can trivially get detailed info (chats, GPS, more) from Grindr, but they just didn't feel like doing it to help John. | Aug 05 02:56 |
| schestowitz | yes, these things go way back | Aug 05 02:57 |
| schestowitz | 1990s at least | Aug 05 02:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: We have no idea what this thing is saying about people, but I'm sure that if the government ever wants to kill or imprison gay people, Grindr will be useful. Hell, it already is. | Aug 05 02:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The cops in Egypt have used it to find and arrest gay people and then give them the death sentence. | Aug 05 02:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So we're talking about the Census data being useful when the Nazis come rolling over the border. Right? | Aug 05 02:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nobody thinks much of it at the time, and then it blows up on them perhaps years later. | Aug 05 02:59 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | The government in the US has so many ways to spy on people that the Census tells them little that they didn't know or couldn't find out some other way. | Aug 05 03:00 |
| schestowitz | a lot of digital toolery [sic] has become like that | Aug 05 03:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So the idea of Census refusal doesn't make very much sense, because you're certainly using something that's a lot worse. | Aug 05 03:00 |
| schestowitz | tooling for surveillance | Aug 05 03:01 |
| schestowitz | disguised as "App" or whatever | Aug 05 03:01 |
| schestowitz | "service"... "cloud" | Aug 05 03:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The US grabbed Grindr quietly from Chinese investors. | Aug 05 03:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Much like TikTok only quieter. | Aug 05 03:01 |
| schestowitz | more social control by centralisation.. with even your personal documents and todo lists and passwords stored away | Aug 05 03:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nobody paid attention to the Grindr grab, but it was the same thing and for many of the same reasons. | Aug 05 03:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They want your data (and anyone in another country too) going to the NSA. | Aug 05 03:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Not the Chinese government. | Aug 05 03:02 |
| schestowitz | about 20 years ago dating sites were a thing | Aug 05 03:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They'll either have it or they'll make the app illegal and it won't work anymore. | Aug 05 03:02 |
| schestowitz | I wonder how much of conversation data from there passed hands and is still stored somewhere | Aug 05 03:03 |
| schestowitz | we know email is | Aug 05 03:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: There was some pretty lurid stuff being done on Yahoo Chat. | Aug 05 03:03 |
| schestowitz | in court documents we never see something that old | Aug 05 03:03 |
| schestowitz | google search history from a decade ago -- yes | Aug 05 03:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You could make your webcam public. People were having sex quite openly on a public Yahoo room. | Aug 05 03:03 |
| schestowitz | but not emails and PMs of instant messengers from the 1990s | Aug 05 03:03 |
| schestowitz | but maybe they can use these as leads... for parallel construction | Aug 05 03:04 |
| schestowitz | Snowden showed nothing to that effecr | Aug 05 03:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The YIM stuff was in the mid 2000s. | Aug 05 03:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Mid 2000s I don't think the government was doing mass interception of things like that, or if they did there were more constitutional safeguards than they'll entertain now. | Aug 05 03:04 |
| schestowitz | spying was high already | Aug 05 03:04 |
| schestowitz | gchq mischief was known already around 2005 | Aug 05 03:05 |
| schestowitz | like recording calls | Aug 05 03:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The police started busting people on YIM for trying to hook up with teenagers around then. | Aug 05 03:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So you could actually be talking to a cop, but like on Grindr the dead giveaway is the profile looks incredibly fake and copypasted and they're never the age of consent. | Aug 05 03:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There wouldn't be a point. Misdemeanor at best. | Aug 05 03:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Also, they message you asking for nudes. | Aug 05 03:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like, out of the blue, and that'll be the first thing they say. | Aug 05 03:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They'll say hey are you into younger guys? | Aug 05 03:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You say, "Maybe. What age?". | Aug 05 03:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They go "14. Don't tell anyone. Also, can you send me a picture of your dick?". | Aug 05 03:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Obvious trap is obvious. | Aug 05 03:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So the correct thing to do is block their profile right then and there. | Aug 05 03:07 |
| schestowitz | SOme Microsofter was caught in this net | Aug 05 03:08 |
| schestowitz | and was arrested by FBI | Aug 05 03:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Once, might be real. I had like 8 of them in a row. | Aug 05 03:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm like "Everyone under 17 in Lake County wants me to fuck them all of a sudden? Unlikely." | Aug 05 03:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They catch the stupid people this way. | Aug 05 03:08 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | For starters, younger people are often full of themselves. When you get someone who is legitimately like 18-25, you get an occasional "into daddies", but for one of them it's 100 "Don't talk to me if you're over 25.". | Aug 05 03:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So the odds of it being real are comical. So I can't see how a Microsoft employee with a college degree on the wall would get roped into that. | Aug 05 03:10 |
| schestowitz | a bigger problem to them is two young people sending nudes to one another | Aug 05 03:11 |
| schestowitz | that can be intercepted for CP perverts | Aug 05 03:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: It's like Rick on Rick & Morty examining a computer simulation of a squirrel going "This is just inferior craftsmanship.". | Aug 05 03:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You know, the police tactics as it pertains to Grindr. | Aug 05 03:12 |
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| kingoffrance | yes that is basically what author of "the black chamber" said long ago...either its my lucky day or she is a spy...hmm...im bald, middle-aged, crypto guy...which is it? | Aug 05 03:14 |
| kingoffrance | hmm.... | Aug 05 03:15 |
| kingoffrance | are overweight bald guys suddenly hip? hmm.... | Aug 05 03:15 |
| *kingoffrance rim shot using century old drum | Aug 05 03:16 | |
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| schestowitz | kingoffrance: or gold digger etc. | Aug 05 03:20 |
| schestowitz | or... | Aug 05 03:20 |
| schestowitz | [another option] | Aug 05 03:20 |
| kingoffrance | yep | Aug 05 03:20 |
| kingoffrance | they supposedly stole code books back then | Aug 05 03:21 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2019/07/06/honeytraps/ | Aug 05 03:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Honeytraps | Techrights | Aug 05 03:22 | |
| schestowitz | I've just noticed this when searching https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/fcsaty/eric_s_raymond_was_today_banned_from_the_osi_he/ | Aug 05 03:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Eric S. Raymond was today banned from the OSI. He co-founded the Open Source Initiative in 1998 : programming | Aug 05 03:22 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | <kingoffrance "are overweight bald guys suddenl"> Oddly yes. | Aug 05 03:26 |
| kingoffrance | lol | Aug 05 03:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | See, wait long enough and everything I do is cool. | Aug 05 03:27 |
| kingoffrance | you cant call me retro if i never left | Aug 05 03:27 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | <kingoffrance "you cant call me retro if i neve"> I predict that DVDs will make a comeback. | Aug 05 03:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | People will eventually get tired of streaming. | Aug 05 03:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The market's already flooded with used copies of older titles for less than $1 if you buy like 5 at the thrift store. | Aug 05 03:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Buy 5 get 3. Things like that. So like 70-80 cents per movie. | Aug 05 03:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Remember when those were like $30? | Aug 05 03:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think that the recession will eventually drive people to cancel netflix and stuff to pinch pennies. | Aug 05 03:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Bittorrent traffic will surge. | Aug 05 03:38 |
| kingoffrance | i dunno, been looking at bluray for backups 100G or so per disc | Aug 05 03:39 |
| kingoffrance | that seems to be the last disc format | Aug 05 03:39 |
| kingoffrance | flash drives + cloud i think they expect everyone to go to | Aug 05 03:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | UHD blu ray went nowhere. | Aug 05 03:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I figured it wouldn't. | Aug 05 03:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Good luck selling your $40 discs in the worst recession ever. | Aug 05 03:40 |
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| yyoo | Hello, is anyone there?? | Aug 05 03:41 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Just you. Very solipsistic in here. I am a manifestation of your inner monologue. | Aug 05 03:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Okay, that was weird. | Aug 05 03:42 |
| GNUmoon | schestowitz: have you seen this from the intercept yet? https://theintercept.com/2020/07/14/microsoft-police-state-mass-surveillance-facial-recognition/ | Aug 05 03:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theintercept.com | The Microsoft Police State: Mass Surveillance, Facial Recognition, and the Azure Cloud | Aug 05 03:42 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, and Tor Bridges use Microsoft Azure, btw. | Aug 05 03:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They say "This gets you around Tor blocks by making it look like you're connecting to a Microsoft site.". | Aug 05 03:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And you are, and it's hosted in Azure. This is really bad. | Aug 05 03:43 |
| GNUmoon | no wonder trump is helping M$ buy tic tok, a very good corporate "citizen". | Aug 05 03:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | yeah, NPR was running a pro-Microsoft puff piece on the radio when I went to pick Mandy up from work, schestowitz | Aug 05 03:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They said that people are seeing Microsoft as "cool again" because of TikTok. | Aug 05 03:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I said, "Cool again? When were they cool? They were the OS you got when you bought your toilet paper and your computer at the same store.". | Aug 05 03:44 |
| schestowitz | NPR is bribed by #billgates | Aug 05 03:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Walmart sells cut rate computers and Microsoft has been very angry about there being a huge selection of Chromebooks. | Aug 05 03:45 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft was never cool to begin with | Aug 05 03:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They are currently running a "co-marketing" campaign so when you search Chromebooks, it offers you Windows S Mode computers. | Aug 05 03:46 |
| schestowitz | so "again" makes no sense | Aug 05 03:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Walmart refuses to get rid of Chromebooks because they're an affordable computing solution for middle and working class America. | Aug 05 03:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They do take Microsoft ad money to present Windows 10 S as "another choice". | Aug 05 03:47 |
| GNUmoon | DaemonFC[m]: ", and Tor Bridges use Microsoft Azure, btw." do you have reference that detail that? mmm not good. | Aug 05 03:48 |
| schestowitz | yes, I need a ref | Aug 05 03:48 |
| schestowitz | never heard of that | Aug 05 03:48 |
| schestowitz | GNUmoon: I did not see that intercept link, thanks | Aug 05 03:48 |
| schestowitz | I will add to Daily Links | Aug 05 03:49 |
| schestowitz | wow, 450mb of apache logs this past day | Aug 05 03:49 |
| schestowitz | because of the red hat piece mostly | Aug 05 03:49 |
| GNUmoon | DaemonFC[m] "And you are, and it's hosted in Azure. This is really bad." I guess you are referring to me. I connect to irc via tor. mmm how to do I fix that? References/Guides? | Aug 05 03:49 |
| GNUmoon | schestowitz: no worries. I like your work, keep it up! | Aug 05 03:50 |
| schestowitz | azure is failing | Aug 05 03:50 |
| schestowitz | I heard of very few that use it | Aug 05 03:51 |
| schestowitz | so when they do, it becomes noteworthy? | Aug 05 03:51 |
| schestowitz | "like, what? REALLY? why? | Aug 05 03:51 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 05 03:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <GNUmoon "DaemonFC: ", and Tor Bridges use"> Sorry. I got booted off the hotel wifi. I forgot to ask what the new password was. | Aug 05 03:52 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: find ref. | Aug 05 03:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Using my hotspot until I can ask tomorrow. | Aug 05 03:53 |
| schestowitz | or show with cli output, maybe ip it translates to | Aug 05 03:53 |
| GNUmoon | schestowitz: My constructive criticism is your website (techrights) is a little hard to navigate and seems a little cluttered (style wise). Just my opinion. | Aug 05 03:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.fortinet.com/blog/threat-research/dissecting-tor-bridges-pluggable-transport | Aug 05 03:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fortinet.com | Dissecting Tor Bridges and Pluggable Transport - Part I: Finding the Built-in Tor Bridges and How Tor Browser Works | Aug 05 03:54 | |
| schestowitz | GNUmoon: I know | Aug 05 03:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Trying to find the Tor documentation about meek-azure. | Aug 05 03:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://blog.torproject.org/how-use-meek-pluggable-transport | Aug 05 03:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.torproject.org | How to use the βmeekβ pluggable transport | Tor Blog | Aug 05 03:56 | |
| schestowitz | βmeek-azureβ bridge? | Aug 05 03:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They have a meek-amazon and a meek-google too. | Aug 05 03:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So those are AWS and Google cloud. | Aug 05 03:56 |
| schestowitz | equally bad | Aug 05 03:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Traffic is relayed through a third-party server that is hard to block, for example a βCDN. It uses a trick called βdomain fronting to talk to a Tor relay while appearing to talk to another domain." | Aug 05 03:56 |
| schestowitz | but what are those technically? | Aug 05 03:57 |
| schestowitz | cheers | Aug 05 03:57 |
| schestowitz | I remember the controversy | Aug 05 03:57 |
| schestowitz | which ones blocked fronting? | Aug 05 03:57 |
| schestowitz | I forgot | Aug 05 03:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/meek#MicrosoftAzure | Aug 05 03:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-trac.torproject.org | doc/meek β Tor Bug Tracker & Wiki | Aug 05 03:58 | |
| schestowitz | either way, can they peel off the layers to expose tor users' original place? | Aug 05 03:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/meek#AmazonCloudFront | Aug 05 03:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-trac.torproject.org | doc/meek β Tor Bug Tracker & Wiki | Aug 05 03:58 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Yes. | Aug 05 03:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They can redirected it to a hijacked Meek server that is controlled by Microsoft or Amazon. | Aug 05 03:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then they can make it look like you're browsing Tor hidden services or whatever, and really it's them proxying it and recording what you do with it. | Aug 05 03:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Theoretically. | Aug 05 03:59 |
| schestowitz | true | Aug 05 03:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Tor becomes your pipeline to the NSA instead of an anonymity network. | Aug 05 03:59 |
| schestowitz | or targeted based on stings | Aug 05 03:59 |
| schestowitz | like they can send a rogue software update just to you | Aug 05 04:00 |
| schestowitz | to backdoor your system | Aug 05 04:00 |
| schestowitz | long been an issue | Aug 05 04:00 |
| schestowitz | e.g. with wordpress automatic updates | Aug 05 04:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yes, they can send a ping that says "I'm a Tor browser update!". | Aug 05 04:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then when you install it, they can spy on you even if you aren't using a bridge. | Aug 05 04:00 |
| schestowitz | not sure how checksums would detect it, you could fool the client side with fake checksum also | Aug 05 04:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Hash collision attack. | Aug 05 04:00 |
| GNUmoon | Not sure if this has been seen before, but it's the best defence of RMS I've seen: https://www.wetheweb.org/post/cancel-we-the-web | Aug 05 04:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wetheweb.org | #Cancel We The Web? | Aug 05 04:00 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | The four acres of supercomputers can pull it off. | Aug 05 04:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | For sure. | Aug 05 04:01 |
| schestowitz | I saw it, I think | Aug 05 04:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | *forty | Aug 05 04:01 |
| schestowitz | yes, we also linked to it | Aug 05 04:01 |
| schestowitz | figosdev linked to it also | Aug 05 04:01 |
| GNUmoon | oh okay, great. | Aug 05 04:01 |
| schestowitz | OSI died 5 months ago. Now it's run by Proprietary Software giants. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkhmwr6O2W4 | Aug 05 04:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Founder Of Open Source Is Banned By Open Source - YouTube | Aug 05 04:02 | |
| schestowitz | head of OSI=salesforce | Aug 05 04:02 |
| schestowitz | president Salesforce | Aug 05 04:02 |
| schestowitz | what a joke | Aug 05 04:02 |
| schestowitz | truly farcical | Aug 05 04:02 |
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| schestowitz | I found the above while looking for something else about ESR | Aug 05 04:09 |
| schestowitz | he had not blogged in like... hmm.. maybe a fortnight | Aug 05 04:09 |
| schestowitz | he is considered canceled now | Aug 05 04:09 |
| schestowitz | like RMS | Aug 05 04:09 |
| schestowitz | better keep "low profile", they tell them... | Aug 05 04:09 |
| schestowitz | causing self-shame and loathing | Aug 05 04:09 |
| schestowitz | or so goes the atactics | Aug 05 04:10 |
| schestowitz | if they do speak out, the tacticians would rush to shame them back into silence | Aug 05 04:10 |
| schestowitz | until they just vanish | Aug 05 04:10 |
| schestowitz | like Rob Malda | Aug 05 04:10 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Don't be alone in a room with a woman. | Aug 05 04:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | LOL | Aug 05 04:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Something a lot of men have learned the hard way. | Aug 05 04:16 |
| schestowitz | "Maybe they need to remove mention of slave/master from their code and make sure to clarify the python is a female. That'll fix the toxicity" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/18712777#501ddca0b8f3013818d97ba25c2ee3a8 | Aug 05 04:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Is the Python Community Becoming Toxic? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/140617 | Aug 05 04:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.tuxmachines.org | Is the Python Community Becoming Toxic? | Tux Machines | Aug 05 04:16 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: high-profile men | Aug 05 04:16 |
| schestowitz | more so | Aug 05 04:17 |
| schestowitz | ordinary joe might not become a target | Aug 05 04:17 |
| schestowitz | and.. it might not be a trap | Aug 05 04:17 |
| schestowitz | just some interested women | Aug 05 04:17 |
| schestowitz | see Assange | Aug 05 04:17 |
| schestowitz | they chase and pursued him | Aug 05 04:17 |
| schestowitz | when he didn't show interest in them any longer they might look for revenge | Aug 05 04:17 |
| schestowitz | and then spin what had happened | Aug 05 04:17 |
| schestowitz | Swedish police, advised by email (which they deleted) from FBI, might even encourage them to | Aug 05 04:18 |
| schestowitz | and Swedish tabloid offer them loads of money to go on with it, play along | Aug 05 04:18 |
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| schestowitz | I am limiting this to the Sweden example | Aug 05 04:20 |
| schestowitz | many women do get victimised | Aug 05 04:20 |
| schestowitz | and have full support | Aug 05 04:20 |
| schestowitz | as should rightly be the case | Aug 05 04:20 |
| schestowitz | What sweden did is the shambles of all shambles | Aug 05 04:20 |
| schestowitz | and an insult to real victims of sexual abuse | Aug 05 04:21 |
| schestowitz | also a stain on sweden's name | Aug 05 04:21 |
| schestowitz | it harms feminism | Aug 05 04:21 |
| schestowitz | a cause sweden professes to support | Aug 05 04:21 |
| schestowitz | in this case misusing it to libel a person, for almost 8 years, because he exposed war crimes and corruption | Aug 05 04:21 |
| schestowitz | We bought a genius mouse last month | Aug 05 04:23 |
| schestowitz | http://us.geniusnet.com/mice/ | Aug 05 04:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-us.geniusnet.com | Genius Mouse | Genius US Website | Aug 05 04:23 | |
| schestowitz | time will tell how durable they are | Aug 05 04:23 |
| schestowitz | I have not used one since like decades ago | Aug 05 04:23 |
| schestowitz | GXT has been working OK for us | Aug 05 04:23 |
| schestowitz | so we bought 3 in 2 years | Aug 05 04:23 |
| schestowitz | mice don't seem to ever last a decade or even half | Aug 05 04:24 |
| schestowitz | not even close | Aug 05 04:24 |
| schestowitz | when did manufacturing quality sink so low? | Aug 05 04:24 |
| schestowitz | an old Dell mouse I had lasted a long time | Aug 05 04:24 |
| schestowitz | Logitech always disappoints | Aug 05 04:24 |
| schestowitz | never makes it well into one year | Aug 05 04:24 |
| schestowitz | sometimes a few months | Aug 05 04:24 |
| schestowitz | keyboards almost the same | Aug 05 04:24 |
| schestowitz | maybe I just use them too much | Aug 05 04:25 |
| schestowitz | 'too much' | Aug 05 04:25 |
| schestowitz | I got one of these http://us.geniusnet.com/product/dx-125/ | Aug 05 04:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-us.geniusnet.com | DX-125 | Genius US Website | Aug 05 04:26 | |
| schestowitz | They never mention Linux | Aug 05 04:26 |
| schestowitz | as if generic USB mice are just for "PC" and "MAC" | Aug 05 04:26 |
| schestowitz | ridiculous... in 2020 | Aug 05 04:26 |
| schestowitz | are chromebooks not supported also? | Aug 05 04:26 |
| kingoffrance | taking the universal out of usb | Aug 05 04:31 |
| schestowitz | unisex | Aug 05 04:31 |
| schestowitz | mac+pc | Aug 05 04:32 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Remembering Thomas Gilliard (satellit) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/140641 [https://pleroma.site/objects/03f2b6a9-89a5-4578-a286-bf0ecf9e10ed] | Aug 05 04:35 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux 5.9: Checkpoint/Restore and Scheduler Improvements http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/140642 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d685031f-2352-4203-bc3a-76acc6713f1f] | Aug 05 04:37 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I just think that tor bridges are too unsafe with meek. | Aug 05 04:38 |
| schestowitz | maybe | Aug 05 04:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's looking like a NOBUS issue for the NSA because your traffic is routed through Amazon or Microsoft. | Aug 05 04:38 |
| schestowitz | they would have a technical comeback | Aug 05 04:38 |
| schestowitz | like, how it cannot be tampered with | Aug 05 04:38 |
| schestowitz | as since I don't know the technical details, they'd be seen as winning the 'argument' | Aug 05 04:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's connecting to a Microsoft or Amazon server, so of course it can be tampered with, in theory. | Aug 05 04:39 |
| schestowitz | it can | Aug 05 04:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Central point of attack. | Aug 05 04:39 |
| schestowitz | they can pretend all works as expected | Aug 05 04:39 |
| schestowitz | but you really don't know | Aug 05 04:39 |
| schestowitz | as you do not control those nodes | Aug 05 04:39 |
| schestowitz | and NSA 'controls' those companies | Aug 05 04:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | With regular Tor, you can get a malicious entry or exit node, but it's unlikely that you'll get both. | Aug 05 04:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If your traffic never leaves the network, there is no exit node. | Aug 05 04:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's three EXTRA nodes and then the hidden service. | Aug 05 04:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So the malicious exit node issue doesn't exist. | Aug 05 04:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you run without any sort of active content enabled in the browser, the attack surface is pretty low. | Aug 05 04:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Pretty much everything that can be high value target to unmask you is turned off, but static content should still work. | Aug 05 04:41 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: the next doc to release is the ncmec ip list | Aug 05 04:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Don't create accounts or identify yourself. | Aug 05 04:41 |
| schestowitz | it's about 29 pages long iirc | Aug 05 04:41 |
| schestowitz | any value to it? | Aug 05 04:41 |
| schestowitz | other than full transparency? | Aug 05 04:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Even if your account is not identifying, if they connect some of your traffic back to you, they can prove that the account was yours and then say "he was logged in on that account and here's the history". | Aug 05 04:42 |
| schestowitz | also, what tool best to convert automatically from pdf to jpg? | Aug 05 04:42 |
| schestowitz | I don't want to do gimping manually at that scale, it's boring | Aug 05 04:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If it requires an account, make a new fake each time you go to a hidden site. | Aug 05 04:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz "also, what tool best to convert "> I think that Krita can do that, but taking screenshots would be better if you don't want metadata preserved. | Aug 05 04:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm not sure if it translates any meta data to EXIF or anything. You should check and strip it out first. | Aug 05 04:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz "other than full transparency?"> I think it would be embarrassing to Bill Gates to have his name on a sex offender investigation that took place on his employee at his house. | Aug 05 04:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Of course, if I was Gates and ever did have to comment I'd say I was shocked. Shocked and repulsed that we gave this guy a job and let him into our home. | Aug 05 04:45 |
| schestowitz | I think, ok... let me think... | Aug 05 04:45 |
| schestowitz | so... | Aug 05 04:45 |
| schestowitz | how about we take a screenshot of key parts not shared before, than add the full PDF? | Aug 05 04:45 |
| schestowitz | WIthout screenshots of each page? | Aug 05 04:45 |
| schestowitz | as many are just ip 'shopping lists' | Aug 05 04:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Key areas, I'd say. | Aug 05 04:46 |
| schestowitz | https://www.hindustantimes.com/health/really-good-quality-sex-education-starts-very-very-early-melinda-gates/story-OMgcxyPhY6PNMLtLPL3BxL.html | Aug 05 04:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, IP addresses and hashes of CP are not something to plaster all over the place. | Aug 05 04:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hindustantimes.com | βReally good quality sex education starts very, very earlyβ:βMelinda Gates - health - Hindustan Times | Aug 05 04:46 | |
| schestowitz | I was amused to read this | Aug 05 04:46 |
| schestowitz | but... didn't make much of it | Aug 05 04:46 |
| schestowitz | re Jones | Aug 05 04:46 |
| schestowitz | I wrote about it in 2015 | Aug 05 04:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I'd post screenshots of the description of the files, but edited to say just the bare minimum. | Aug 05 04:46 |
| schestowitz | but it wasn't until the Epstein association, which persisted even when Gates knew what it had done (there was conviction), that many people thought, "WAIT. WTF?" | Aug 05 04:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like "File 2 was a 10 year old girl blank blank blank "by an adult man". | Aug 05 04:47 |
| schestowitz | the hashes are not in this file | Aug 05 04:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Don't have to detail it to paint a picture of what this guy was into. You know? | Aug 05 04:47 |
| schestowitz | [04:46] <DaemonFC[m]> Yeah, IP addresses and hashes of CP are not something to plaster all over the place. | Aug 05 04:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Just drive home that he was disgusting. | Aug 05 04:47 |
| schestowitz | that's the other installments | Aug 05 04:47 |
| schestowitz | we'll come to the hash and filename parts later | Aug 05 04:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I've amused myself by reading anything I can on human psychology over the years. | Aug 05 04:48 |
| schestowitz | and need to think if we can show some and occlude hashes | Aug 05 04:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I should probably get a degree in it. | Aug 05 04:48 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: do you want to do the screen-capping? | Aug 05 04:48 |
| schestowitz | or me? | Aug 05 04:48 |
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| schestowitz | I think the last page is interesting | Aug 05 04:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Probably best if you did. | Aug 05 04:49 |
| schestowitz | it's a scan of an e-mail between the Kings COuntry, Detective and NCMEC | Aug 05 04:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'd probably get stuff you didn't want to post. | Aug 05 04:49 |
| schestowitz | OK | Aug 05 04:49 |
| schestowitz | give me a moment | Aug 05 04:49 |
| schestowitz | full pdf: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/14-22121-2.pdf | Aug 05 04:49 |
| schestowitz | I'll tell you about images | Aug 05 04:49 |
| schestowitz | maybe you can see anything in them that should not be posted | Aug 05 04:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, generally the police are local, like Seattle, but then it goes to a state courtroom operated by King County. | Aug 05 04:50 |
| schestowitz | I am least interested in ip address | Aug 05 04:50 |
| schestowitz | not because it's privacy issue (they're dynamic) but because it is boring | Aug 05 04:51 |
| schestowitz | yes, the court is there, I know | Aug 05 04:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Not letting me download | Aug 05 04:55 |
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| schestowitz | see page 29 | Aug 05 04:57 |
| schestowitz | you mean your wifi denies access? | Aug 05 04:57 |
| schestowitz | why? | Aug 05 04:57 |
| schestowitz | bandwidth? domain? | Aug 05 04:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I don't know. | Aug 05 04:58 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: i want to ask... | Aug 05 04:59 |
| schestowitz | do you recall him having a laptop? | Aug 05 04:59 |
| schestowitz | portable pc? | Aug 05 04:59 |
| schestowitz | I cannot recall what they collected exactly | Aug 05 04:59 |
| schestowitz | I want to see if these IPs can somehow be ascribed/traced back to mansion access | Aug 05 04:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think they said flash drives and external hard disks and a desktop PC. | Aug 05 04:59 |
| schestowitz | the fourth doc lacks ocr | Aug 05 05:00 |
| schestowitz | so I will do screenshots of it when we get to it | Aug 05 05:01 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: that's what I recall also | Aug 05 05:01 |
| schestowitz | I am double checking | Aug 05 05:01 |
| schestowitz | it lacks ocr, so takes a while | Aug 05 05:01 |
| schestowitz | portable drives can easily be trafficked elsewhere anyway | Aug 05 05:01 |
| schestowitz | it's about data after all | Aug 05 05:01 |
| schestowitz | is it worth noting? | Aug 05 05:02 |
| schestowitz | that those were external and portable? | Aug 05 05:02 |
| schestowitz | it is partly ocr'd actrually | Aug 05 05:03 |
| schestowitz | "Pavilian laptop PC" | Aug 05 05:03 |
| schestowitz | so a laptop also | Aug 05 05:03 |
| schestowitz | there is also an HP desktop pc | Aug 05 05:04 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: I asked this a month ago: | Aug 05 05:06 |
| schestowitz | is there a way we can correlate ips with exact location? | Aug 05 05:06 |
| schestowitz | some told me gates might have a private sat' link | Aug 05 05:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Not precisely, no. | Aug 05 05:07 |
| schestowitz | and this was ages ago | Aug 05 05:07 |
| schestowitz | so the IPs can point anywhere by now | Aug 05 05:07 |
| schestowitz | it would be interesting if the laptop was powered on and connected "at work" | Aug 05 05:07 |
| schestowitz | but... | Aug 05 05:07 |
| schestowitz | even if not | Aug 05 05:07 |
| schestowitz | he could just take around the laptop unconnected or pass around the external WD drive | Aug 05 05:08 |
| schestowitz | which was found to contain CP | Aug 05 05:08 |
| schestowitz | the drive has no internet connection or logs, maybe journaling only | Aug 05 05:08 |
| schestowitz | so it's not impossible those drives trafficked around CP | Aug 05 05:08 |
| schestowitz | maybe I will bring this up at a later release | Aug 05 05:09 |
| schestowitz | IPIPAddress: | Aug 05 05:10 |
| schestowitz | Address: | Aug 05 05:10 |
| schestowitz | 11-30-2013 09:07:47 UTC | Aug 05 05:10 |
| schestowitz | 24.22.131.195 (Login) | Aug 05 05:10 |
| schestowitz | 11-30-2013 08:17:38 UTC | Aug 05 05:10 |
| schestowitz | 67.183.216.176 (Registration) | Aug 05 05:10 |
| schestowitz | 05-22-2010 04:50:23 UTC | Aug 05 05:10 |
| schestowitz | question | Aug 05 05:10 |
| schestowitz | account created 2010 | Aug 05 05:10 |
| schestowitz | not used until 2013? | Aug 05 05:10 |
| schestowitz | or: | Aug 05 05:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No way to tell how many times he cloned the drives. | Aug 05 05:11 |
| schestowitz | google provided only 12 months' history? | Aug 05 05:11 |
| schestowitz | it runs from end of Nov until end of Dec the following year | Aug 05 05:11 |
| schestowitz | 13 months | Aug 05 05:11 |
| schestowitz | ok, how's this for a future focus: he had multiple portable devices, then show each had on it (confirmed) CP | Aug 05 05:14 |
| schestowitz | though we cannot tell if the data was copied across to devices outside his home and, if so, which ones... | Aug 05 05:15 |
| schestowitz | (in case he was hired as a 'mule') | Aug 05 05:15 |
| schestowitz | child pornographer since teen years... collecting (he says) for a decade | Aug 05 05:15 |
| schestowitz | a mule can be easily made to take all the blame | Aug 05 05:16 |
| schestowitz | and to help teach about sex at a "very, very young age" | Aug 05 05:16 |
| schestowitz | https://www.hindustantimes.com/health/really-good-quality-sex-education-starts-very-very-early-melinda-gates/story-OMgcxyPhY6PNMLtLPL3BxL.html | Aug 05 05:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hindustantimes.com | βReally good quality sex education starts very, very earlyβ:βMelinda Gates - health - Hindustan Times | Aug 05 05:16 | |
| schestowitz | Microsoft Peter said he was 'teaching' the kids sex | Aug 05 05:17 |
| schestowitz | if you look at court docs | Aug 05 05:17 |
| schestowitz | like he was explaining to them by exposing and touching his 'thing' | Aug 05 05:17 |
| schestowitz | so one might suspect that Epstein and Jones could be just 'teachers' | Aug 05 05:17 |
| schestowitz | 'teaching' the problem of underage sex | Aug 05 05:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Who the hell could raise that as a legal defense? | Aug 05 05:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Whose lawyer would allow them to say that? | Aug 05 05:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I'm surprised that his lawyer even had him take the stand. | Aug 05 05:19 |
| schestowitz | that's what they tell the parents | Aug 05 05:19 |
| schestowitz | if you look at the Microsoft Peter case | Aug 05 05:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you take the stand in your own defense, you can be questioned by the prosecutor. | Aug 05 05:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There is no defense to CP, so there's no reason to let the prosecutor start asking rapid fire questions about what a sick pervert your client is. | Aug 05 05:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The lawyer would be arguing technical points. | Aug 05 05:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like, did they find the files in the active or unallocated space. | Aug 05 05:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And did anyone else use the computer under that account. | Aug 05 05:21 |
| schestowitz | rmemeber he pled guilty | Aug 05 05:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Would anyone else have had access to those drives and could they have saved those files to them? | Aug 05 05:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, but the job of the defense is to raise doubts. | Aug 05 05:21 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/01/13/guilty-verdict-confirmed/ | Aug 05 05:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mansion of Pedophilia β Part VII: Guilty Verdict in Case of Pedophilia (Staff at the Mansion of Bill Gates), But Where Was the Mainstream Media? | Techrights | Aug 05 05:21 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | With or without a plea deal? | Aug 05 05:21 |
| schestowitz | ask the court | Aug 05 05:22 |
| schestowitz | you need to pay | Aug 05 05:22 |
| schestowitz | I can give you the instructions | Aug 05 05:22 |
| schestowitz | it's about 60 pages | Aug 05 05:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If they won't offer a deal, then obviously you plea Not Guilty and take it to court. | Aug 05 05:22 |
| schestowitz | and not so expensive if you're in the us | Aug 05 05:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you plead Guilty in front of the judge, you just convicted yourself and you get whatever that judge feels like doing to you right there. | Aug 05 05:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They'll warn you about that and ask if you understand. | Aug 05 05:22 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: in irc I can say things not in posts | Aug 05 05:23 |
| schestowitz | stuff we cannor prove but discuss | Aug 05 05:23 |
| schestowitz | I don't know if he got a deal | Aug 05 05:23 |
| schestowitz | but evidence shows he barely got punished at all | Aug 05 05:23 |
| schestowitz | told to stay away from kids | Aug 05 05:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm just saying if there's no deal there's no upside in not making the state prove every single charge. | Aug 05 05:23 |
| schestowitz | probation with ankle spying iirc | Aug 05 05:24 |
| schestowitz | we don't even know if he lost his job! | Aug 05 05:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Some or all of it could fall apart on them. The jury might not buy it. The jury might be conflicted with what to do to you. | Aug 05 05:24 |
| schestowitz | the corporate media never touched this since 2015 | Aug 05 05:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's really no reason to make this easy or cheap on the state. | Aug 05 05:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Sometimes if you insist on the trial it turns out that there really is a plea offer and they were bluffing to see what you'd do if there wasn't one. | Aug 05 05:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Some people go "Oh shit. They must really have me if they're not even offering me a plea deal.". | Aug 05 05:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're not obligated to offer one, but 99% of the time they do. | Aug 05 05:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I argued with the prosecutor back and forth a couple of times. | Aug 05 05:26 |
| schestowitz | does this sound OK? | Aug 05 05:26 |
| schestowitz | "As weβve found nothing too sensitive in the document, today weβre finally disclosing and publishing the second release (first one published yesterday); this includes network addresses used on the devices of the engineer of Bill Gates, who had a laptop and external hard drives (portable) with plenty of child pornography (imagery and videos)" | Aug 05 05:26 |
| schestowitz | IIRC, the external hdds DID have CP | Aug 05 05:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They wanted 6 months supervised probation and community service. | Aug 05 05:26 |
| schestowitz | and they did say there were videos too | Aug 05 05:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Sounds okay. | Aug 05 05:27 |
| schestowitz | I think several drives and some CDs | Aug 05 05:27 |
| schestowitz | maybe just one | Aug 05 05:27 |
| schestowitz | but I guess that's not the point | Aug 05 05:28 |
| schestowitz | as one big capacity drive is enough for the crime | Aug 05 05:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, they sold 4 TB external drives then. | Aug 05 05:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 6 even, I think. | Aug 05 05:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Cheaply. Best Buy. | Aug 05 05:29 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/08/04/report-about-gates-mansion-pedophile/ | Aug 05 05:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Release: 29 Pages of Internet Access Report About Pedophile Working for Bill Gates at His Home | Techrights | Aug 05 05:29 | |
| schestowitz | is clarity ok here? | Aug 05 05:29 |
| schestowitz | it's short, intentionally | Aug 05 05:29 |
| schestowitz | and doesn't bore people with 25 pages of ip addresses | Aug 05 05:30 |
| schestowitz | I saw a joke yesterday about Pizza Express shutting down stores here | Aug 05 05:33 |
| schestowitz | showing 'prince' Drew sobbing | Aug 05 05:33 |
| schestowitz | Lolita Express + Pizza Express | Aug 05 05:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | How did pizza end up like that? | Aug 05 05:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Pizzagate? | Aug 05 05:33 |
| schestowitz | pizza = code for young boy | Aug 05 05:33 |
| schestowitz | they apparently use code words, and these change over time | Aug 05 05:34 |
| schestowitz | also for racial slurs and labels there are codes | Aug 05 05:34 |
| schestowitz | so in social control media people evade bans | Aug 05 05:34 |
| schestowitz | the FBI published a list of these codes | Aug 05 05:34 |
| schestowitz | but I guess it rapidly changes | Aug 05 05:34 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft Peter used code words too | Aug 05 05:34 |
| schestowitz | the megafile is part 3, DaemonFC[m] | Aug 05 05:35 |
| schestowitz | and lots of repetition there | Aug 05 05:36 |
| schestowitz | if you can eliminate the repetition and make shots of only unique pages, then we can bore readers less | Aug 05 05:36 |
| schestowitz | ocr does not matter as much, where it doesn't exist | Aug 05 05:36 |
| schestowitz | part 4 is more like reports from officers, plus background and statements | Aug 05 05:36 |
| schestowitz | there's ocr for parts of that | Aug 05 05:37 |
| schestowitz | one point we never ever focused on is the portability of this data | Aug 05 05:37 |
| schestowitz | the home was raised | Aug 05 05:37 |
| schestowitz | raided | Aug 05 05:37 |
| schestowitz | IF ...NCMEC sent a report about the gates residence | Aug 05 05:37 |
| schestowitz | would SPD action | Aug 05 05:37 |
| schestowitz | and treat similarly? | Aug 05 05:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, the police normally find a huge stash when they raid. | Aug 05 05:37 |
| schestowitz | or only some home that's an easier target | Aug 05 05:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They found a big stash on the PHONE of someone I know (not closely). | Aug 05 05:38 |
| schestowitz | it is likely that he brought the laptop to work at times | Aug 05 05:38 |
| schestowitz | or maybe he has multiple laptops | Aug 05 05:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He went after one of those fake Grindr kids and while they were charging him with that, they searched his phone. | Aug 05 05:38 |
| schestowitz | and one was already at work with him | Aug 05 05:38 |
| schestowitz | and then never found that one at his home | Aug 05 05:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then they got a warrant on his house. | Aug 05 05:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: He has a tech job where he works from home anyway. | Aug 05 05:39 |
| schestowitz | like I said, in IRC we can speculate, but when publishing we need to be 100% facts-based, to avoid giving away room for doubt-seeders | Aug 05 05:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He can go outside but the ankle monitor informs the police if he goes near schools and parks and stuff and loiters there. | Aug 05 05:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like, driving past one wouldn't count but staying too long would. | Aug 05 05:40 |
| schestowitz | I find it hard to believe that Jones went to work with no digital equipment | Aug 05 05:40 |
| schestowitz | like scripts he has and manuals | Aug 05 05:40 |
| schestowitz | as if they 'supply' all the gear there for him | Aug 05 05:40 |
| schestowitz | BYoD likely | Aug 05 05:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm surprised that they tracked this all back to his house. | Aug 05 05:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Tor works at the library. | Aug 05 05:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Library doesn't make you log in. | Aug 05 05:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You would think that he'd consider OPSEC. | Aug 05 05:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You go to the library, don't use Windows. Randomize MAC. Use Tor. | Aug 05 05:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Pack the hard disk as full as you like. | Aug 05 05:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If they track anything back to a real IP it would be the library's and they'd hit a dead end. | Aug 05 05:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Meanwhile, he has a wall safe behind an air return vent or a fake electrical outlet at his house. | Aug 05 05:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He's emailing them to people from his personal GMail over his real IP address. | Aug 05 05:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're not catching the smart ones. | Aug 05 05:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz "BYoD likely"> Sharing them with other perverts would be another mistake. | Aug 05 05:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Eventually one of them will get themselves busted and they'll tell the police "I know something you don't know!". | Aug 05 05:48 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: The more people who know about you the sooner someone is going to talk, obviously. | Aug 05 05:51 |
| schestowitz | http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/36684/ | Aug 05 05:51 |
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| schestowitz | " | Aug 05 05:51 |
| schestowitz | Hope all is well folks! miss my fix when i am stuck in my house and all other sites are shite ;) | Aug 05 05:51 |
| schestowitz | gus3 | Aug 05 05:51 |
| schestowitz | Jul 18, 2020 | Aug 05 05:51 |
| schestowitz | 5:14 PM EDT Cloudflare has been having DNS issues, and it's affecting lots of sites. | Aug 05 05:51 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 05 05:51 |
| schestowitz | That explains a lotr! | Aug 05 05:51 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I think tonight's dinner is about my favorite Depression-era favorite. | Aug 05 06:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Ham and beans. | Aug 05 06:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Doesn't get much simpler. | Aug 05 06:06 |
| schestowitz | ham is not cheap | Aug 05 06:07 |
| schestowitz | better than eating rice scooped with your hand | Aug 05 06:07 |
| schestowitz | which is the diet of many in tondo area | Aug 05 06:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's what happens when your country is primitive and everyone believes in bullshit (religion) and abortion is illegal. | Aug 05 06:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Overcrowding and poverty. | Aug 05 06:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Soylent Green is people. | Aug 05 06:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Soylent Green is made from people! | Aug 05 06:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They can't afford to have their "religious beliefs". | Aug 05 06:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Literally, the US would be Philippines poor if it wasn't for expanded access to contraceptives and abortion. | Aug 05 06:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Look how bad it already is. | Aug 05 06:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Now dump 100 million more people into this mess. | Aug 05 06:10 |
| schestowitz | 110m | Aug 05 06:11 |
| schestowitz | you're years behind | Aug 05 06:11 |
| schestowitz | it grows fast, still | Aug 05 06:11 |
| schestowitz | catholic and muslim mindset | Aug 05 06:11 |
| schestowitz | spreading religion since age 0 day | Aug 05 06:11 |
| schestowitz | 0-day hole in the brain | Aug 05 06:12 |
| schestowitz | nigeria and indonesia are about 200m million, but the land is also bigger | Aug 05 06:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They use it too and then just say look at our trip to Chicago. We saw the Sears Tower. | Aug 05 06:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Mandy's never heard "One disaster at a time, please.". | Aug 05 06:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He's learning all kinds of things. | Aug 05 06:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm gathering the documents I need to send to the government so that they're ready to print off and drop in the mail. | Aug 05 06:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He says "I need to renew my passport.". I go, "That expires in 2022. I'm trying to make sure you don't lose your permission to have a job in 2021, right before they call us to go in and talk to them.". | Aug 05 06:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Their Consulate website looks like shit. | Aug 05 06:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Missouri voters also passed amendment 2, a measure to expand Medicaid eligibility to roughly 230,000 more low-income Missourians." | Aug 05 07:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nice | Aug 05 07:15 |
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| akingu | In a shameless plug, I thought maybe you would enjoy reading https://remmina.org/ecosystem/ Do let me know if that isn't the case ;) | Aug 05 09:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-remmina.org | Ecosystem - Remmina | Aug 05 09:31 | |
| XRevan86 | "ensure your ecosystem is yours" β no, live with nature, not control it :P | Aug 05 09:32 |
| XRevan86 | akingu: Is this autotranslation from Polish? | Aug 05 09:34 |
| akingu | No, but English is a second language for me | Aug 05 09:35 |
| akingu | Do let me know if you find any errors or improvements | Aug 05 09:36 |
| XRevan86 | akingu: "monopolkaliszt", "workoholodeck" | Aug 05 09:36 |
| akingu | Those are invented words | Aug 05 09:37 |
| akingu | Along with "effectuant" borrowed from French | Aug 05 09:37 |
| akingu | Monopolist, polka, and Liszt the composer, as in "lisztomania". Workoholic, and "holodeck". | Aug 05 09:39 |
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| XRevan86 | Okay, that explains why I thought it could be Polish or Hungarian, but it still made no sense | Aug 05 09:42 |
| XRevan86 | Franz Liszt is a Hungarian composer (I didn't know of him) | Aug 05 09:43 |
| scientes | has anyone done fpgas here? | Aug 05 09:43 |
| akingu | XRevan86: I suppose it hinges on quite a few spurious connections to be made ;) | Aug 05 09:44 |
| XRevan86 | But Polish has a tendency towards palatalising, so I went with that guess. | Aug 05 09:44 |
| akingu | scientes: What are you using one for? | Aug 05 09:45 |
| akingu | XRevan86: I can't speak Polish to save my life, but had a go in https://remmina.org/monitoring-multiplicity/ | Aug 05 09:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-remmina.org | Monitoring multiplicity - Remmina | Aug 05 09:45 | |
| XRevan86 | akingu: Yes, and the text is full of such coinage, makes it hard to grasp. | Aug 05 09:47 |
| XRevan86 | A random sentence: "Free speech is a most intrinsically powerful abjectly disabusive discipline." | Aug 05 09:47 |
| XRevan86 | the what now? | Aug 05 09:47 |
| XRevan86 | Why is it a discipline? What makes it disabusive? What discipline can even be abusive? Why is it adject? Which of the four definitions: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/abject ? | Aug 05 09:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | abject - Wiktionary | Aug 05 09:49 | |
| XRevan86 | Povattempt kelka communicatsyon | Aug 05 09:51 |
| akingu | XRevan86: Because most of what makes for its existence is a connection made on the premise of discipline. I had some philosophical point in mind too. I cant remember what a discipline is a distinction from, but there was something about ethics vs moral | Aug 05 09:52 |
| akingu | XRevan86: Abject only qualifies disabusive, as a description of free speech. Ecosystem notwithstanding | Aug 05 09:54 |
| akingu | Abject there both works in the sense of humility, and ~added suffering, for "disabusive", which really means being proven wrong to ones benefit. | Aug 05 09:55 |
| akingu | Free speech isn't without its cost, but it is a beneficial one, "humanely" which I think is in the top, and then there is something about anonymity towards the end. | Aug 05 09:56 |
| XRevan86 | akingu: When you use "discipline" as a countable noun, it gets a connotation similiar to "field of study". | Aug 05 09:57 |
| akingu | XRevan86: The four definitions are likened to Why limit selection short of enjoyment, understanding, mutation and passing on? | Aug 05 09:57 |
| XRevan86 | My point is: if you're not sure what you meant, the reader will sure be even more lost. | Aug 05 09:59 |
| akingu | XRevan86: I liken it to moral definition rather than ethical choice. It isn't an obvious "discipline" if you will. | Aug 05 09:59 |
| akingu | Who cares what I think? | Aug 05 09:59 |
| akingu | 1a : control gained by enforcing obedience or order | Aug 05 10:00 |
| akingu | b : orderly or prescribed conduct or pattern of behavior | Aug 05 10:00 |
| akingu | c : self-control | Aug 05 10:00 |
| akingu | 2 : punishment | Aug 05 10:00 |
| XRevan86 | That's a rhetorical question by design. Closer to the point, you were trying to convey a point, and I still don't know what it is. | Aug 05 10:00 |
| akingu | haha, "3 : training that corrects, molds, or perfects the mental faculties or moral character" | Aug 05 10:00 |
| akingu | Vindication | Aug 05 10:00 |
| akingu | To be fair 4 says "field of study", but that is neither here nor there | Aug 05 10:01 |
| XRevan86 | akingu: That would be a verb. | Aug 05 10:01 |
| akingu | Which one? | Aug 05 10:01 |
| XRevan86 | third one | Aug 05 10:02 |
| XRevan86 | and second one | Aug 05 10:02 |
| akingu | I mean 1a, with the connotation of the others as a bonus | Aug 05 10:02 |
| XRevan86 | akingu: that would be an uncountable noun | Aug 05 10:03 |
| XRevan86 | "I have discipline" | Aug 05 10:03 |
| akingu | It is used 3 places, which one of them is wrong? | Aug 05 10:03 |
| akingu | Right, but it can be ~"self-control is a discipline of thought" | Aug 05 10:04 |
| XRevan86 | akingu: The same sentence I quoted above. | Aug 05 10:04 |
| XRevan86 | akingu: You said "free speech is a <β¦> discipline." | Aug 05 10:05 |
| akingu | And what is the problem that creates? | Aug 05 10:06 |
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| akingu | Like "Archery 200m freestanding adjective adjective is a discipline" | Aug 05 10:07 |
| XRevan86 | Maybe if you had added "of thought", but even then it should probably be worded as "free speech requires <β¦> discipline [of thought]" | Aug 05 10:07 |
| XRevan86 | akingu: Like academic discipline, science | Aug 05 10:08 |
| XRevan86 | * Like an | Aug 05 10:08 |
| akingu | The measured qualitiy is to be free, as in fully free speech (if you will) | Aug 05 10:08 |
| XRevan86 | Today I keep omitting articles myself⦠| Aug 05 10:08 |
| XRevan86 | And when one masters free speech, one reaches full obscurity of meaning :) | Aug 05 10:09 |
| akingu | We agree free speech is a discipline (or could be), and I describe it as most intrinsically powerful abjectly disabusive | Aug 05 10:10 |
| akingu | XRevan86: Confuzingu strikes again ;) | Aug 05 10:10 |
| akingu | There are plenty words used just because they sound like other words, tear your hair out ;))) | Aug 05 10:11 |
| XRevan86 | Confusius? | Aug 05 10:11 |
| akingu | See, now I didn't make that connection, but you did | Aug 05 10:12 |
| akingu | And that gives you some food for thought. I don't tell you what to think, or what things are | Aug 05 10:12 |
| XRevan86 | You sure didn't, I still don't know what you meant %) | Aug 05 10:13 |
| schestowitz | Confuz-fu? | Aug 05 10:13 |
| schestowitz | compiz.conf? | Aug 05 10:13 |
| akingu | Bazinga+kingu was my intention | Aug 05 10:13 |
| akingu | or a "zinger" | Aug 05 10:13 |
| XRevan86 | Okay, my next guess was confusing + Japanese pronunciation | Aug 05 10:14 |
| akingu | So you accept there is going to be some puzzling constructions, and get an increasingly possibly unique take-away | Aug 05 10:15 |
| XRevan86 | > Sheldon occasionally uses slang (in a very unnatural fashion) and follows jokes with his catchphrase "Bazinga!", which is now an officially registered trademark of Warner Bros. | Aug 05 10:15 |
| akingu | What? | Aug 05 10:16 |
| XRevan86 | akingu: That word you used, it's from "The Big Bang Theory" (the sitcom). | Aug 05 10:16 |
| akingu | I thought of Sopranos, but that is "bada bing" | Aug 05 10:16 |
| akingu | I am going to stop that henceforth | Aug 05 10:17 |
| XRevan86 | Had to look that up, I don't like sitcoms. | Aug 05 10:17 |
| akingu | It comes from "zing", and "zinger" though. | Aug 05 10:17 |
| XRevan86 | Except for Red Dwarf, albeit it's still trash, just a wee bit charming trash. | Aug 05 10:17 |
| XRevan86 | akingu: And "ba-"? | Aug 05 10:17 |
| akingu | That is what I added so people could understand me | Aug 05 10:18 |
| XRevan86 | maybe "best" | Aug 05 10:18 |
| akingu | Confuzingu is my alter ego | Aug 05 10:18 |
| akingu | Confusing kingu | Aug 05 10:18 |
| *XRevan86 doesn't know where "bada bing, bada boom" comes from. | Aug 05 10:19 | |
| akingu | https://www.dictionary.com/browse/zinger https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/zing | Aug 05 10:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Zinger | Definition of Zinger at Dictionary.com | Aug 05 10:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | zing - Wiktionary | Aug 05 10:19 | |
| akingu | Did you guys see https://services.google.com/fh/files/misc/black-owned.pdf | Aug 05 10:20 |
| akingu | Is that someone just uploading it to /fh/, or is it an actual Google policy? | Aug 05 10:21 |
| schestowitz | don't know | Aug 05 10:21 |
| schestowitz | [10:16] <akingu> I thought of Sopranos, but that is "bada bing" | Aug 05 10:22 |
| schestowitz | bada was a samsung OS | Aug 05 10:22 |
| schestowitz | based on Linux | Aug 05 10:22 |
| schestowitz | MinceR called it bad-a | Aug 05 10:22 |
| schestowitz | bing means dead | Aug 05 10:22 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Aug 05 10:22 |
| schestowitz | 2% of search market share | Aug 05 10:22 |
| akingu | Shame Samsung also canned DeX | Aug 05 10:23 |
| akingu | The one where they let others run their Linux distros on their stuff | Aug 05 10:23 |
| akingu | They is like they almost understood making user-facing software isn't their forte, but then closed the whole libre software anything initiative | Aug 05 10:24 |
| akingu | If I had a sitcom the character loosing their stuff unable to find it would scream "Bing!" | Aug 05 10:25 |
| XRevan86 | akingu: https://nitter.net/GoogleMyBiz/status/1288849489424519170#m it is real | Aug 05 10:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.net | Google My Business (@GoogleMyBiz): "As part of our ongoing commitment to racial equity, starting today, U.S. businesses can show that theyβre proudly Black-owned on Google. Learn more about our partnership with @USBlackChambers and add the attribute β http://grow.google/blackowned" | nitter | Aug 05 10:26 | |
| akingu | grow.google/blackowned resolves to that pdf | Aug 05 10:26 |
| XRevan86 | > Thanks for dividing everyone by skin colour, Google | Aug 05 10:27 |
| akingu | XRevan86: I know if you search for "American inventors" you get a lopsided result with many african-americans on the first page, and they are funding black creators on YouTube with was it 100 million dollars? | Aug 05 10:27 |
| XRevan86 | Apartheid supporters scream with joy, right. | Aug 05 10:28 |
| XRevan86 | white supremacists: "finally, Google gave us a warning label" | Aug 05 10:28 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: baba developers at samsung moved over to tizen. | Aug 05 10:28 |
| akingu | But marking the race of who owns the business is just such a fundamentally back-firing thing. It doesn't just do nothing, which is out of character | Aug 05 10:28 |
| akingu | XRevan86: I think it might be more a reason to pretend race is the issue once things are truly faceless | Aug 05 10:29 |
| akingu | Along the rationale that libre software participation is the hardest thing to break into in human history | Aug 05 10:30 |
| akingu | XRevan86: It is a voluntary system, which maybe means someone asked for it. | Aug 05 10:32 |
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| akingu | XRevan86: But interestingly it is a labeling system that isn't available to everyone. That being said Google doesn't care about fines much. | Aug 05 10:33 |
| XRevan86 | akingu: Yes, but it still works for the other side. | Aug 05 10:33 |
| akingu | What is the other side? | Aug 05 10:33 |
| XRevan86 | akingu: apartheid | Aug 05 10:34 |
| akingu | It doesn't work at all for anyone AFAIK, unless someone is looking to shop only at black businesses | Aug 05 10:34 |
| XRevan86 | akingu: It works if what one wants is to avoid them | Aug 05 10:34 |
| XRevan86 | lowers the chances | Aug 05 10:34 |
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| akingu | XRevan86: I think people really wanting to do that would go out of their way anyway. This is shown to everyone (?) | Aug 05 10:36 |
| XRevan86 | convinience | Aug 05 10:36 |
| akingu | It is an interesting social experiment. | Aug 05 10:38 |
| XRevan86 | akingu: It might not even be an extreme case, but a more mild prejudice like "X can't do business right" | Aug 05 10:38 |
| akingu | The breaking point is advertisers pulling out to save face | Aug 05 10:39 |
| akingu | XRevan86: That case you can make, however now there is a reason to fail. Google can take the fall. | Aug 05 10:39 |
| XRevan86 | racism is a spectrum after all | Aug 05 10:39 |
| akingu | Intel nixed their whole diversity budget about 2 years ago. | Aug 05 10:42 |
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| akingu | And Mozilla fired the people with strange pronouns before engineers | Aug 05 10:43 |
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| akingu | Come to think of it I would absolutely avoid a business that exposed the genetic makeup of its owners as a quality, so there might be a constructed drama there to exploit | Aug 05 10:47 |
| XRevan86 | And we all know already that the best businesses are owned by those who have no genetic makeup whatsoever. Hail robots, kill all humans | Aug 05 10:49 |
| akingu | Organic fallacy | Aug 05 10:50 |
| akingu | I concur though | Aug 05 10:50 |
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| akingu | With all the laws against discriminations and businesses being legal entities, the winning move is being a bot sending out all possible infractions to other businesses | Aug 05 10:52 |
| akingu | Nobody would dare to do any blogging or show any human qualities if that was the case | Aug 05 10:52 |
| akingu | Imagine how much legality there is in play, and how exposed the general business is via its social media arm. It just sits there waiting to happen | Aug 05 10:53 |
| akingu | Right now people are doing it with a bit of shame-shame shaking of fists, but why wouldn't it evolve into a business race? | Aug 05 10:54 |
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| akingu | From what I gathered it could also be (theoretically) made to use with other blobs, and was hacky, but the practice itself is frowned upon, and not vetted legally | Aug 05 10:58 |
| akingu | Depending on the outcome it could either make it lucrative to open blobs, with the protection it gives and the benefit of being first, or the opposite (?) | Aug 05 11:00 |
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| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/685127.jpg | Aug 05 13:14 |
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| MinceR | (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-C9mPu7r_4 | Aug 05 13:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Life's better when you're fat. Josh Sneed - Full Special - YouTube | Aug 05 13:39 | |
| XRevan86 | This is dystrophic body shaming | Aug 05 13:43 |
| MinceR | ok | Aug 05 13:43 |
| XRevan86 | probably with a hyphen | Aug 05 13:43 |
| XRevan86 | incidentally it works both ways | Aug 05 13:44 |
| MinceR | that's what she said. | Aug 05 13:46 |
| *XRevan86 doesn't want to know what she is going to do with a hyphen. | Aug 05 13:48 | |
| MinceR | :> | Aug 05 13:48 |
| XRevan86 | "25 years later, you're not eating books, you're eating pizza" | Aug 05 13:52 |
| XRevan86 | Not sure how to make a personal appeal without being too revealing⦠basically, I really like pizza. | Aug 05 13:53 |
| XRevan86 | and that puts shade on his point, fill in the gaps %) | Aug 05 13:54 |
| MinceR | :) | Aug 05 13:58 |
| MinceR | (cat) https://ircz.de/p/20020447 | Aug 05 14:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4331705) | Aug 05 14:03 | |
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| MinceR | https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/gatekeeping | Aug 05 14:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Gatekeeping | Aug 05 14:30 | |
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| MinceR | (cat) https://i.imgur.com/ET8Ifll.mp4 | Aug 05 15:04 |
| MinceR | https://www.extremetech.com/computing/313487-blocking-ms-telemetry-in-hosts-file-now-triggers-windows-defender-virus-warning | Aug 05 15:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Blocking MS Telemetry in HOSTS File Now Triggers Windows Defender Virus Warning - ExtremeTech | Aug 05 15:35 | |
| superkuh | Well of course. No normal user would edit the hosts file. Only normal users matter. | Aug 05 15:36 |
| MinceR | :> | Aug 05 15:36 |
| MinceR | except of course for spying purposes | Aug 05 15:36 |
| MinceR | because they would very much like to spy on "abnormal" users too | Aug 05 15:36 |
| superkuh | Why though? They can't make money from them. | Aug 05 15:39 |
| superkuh | It's too small a market segment. | Aug 05 15:39 |
| MinceR | because the NSA wants to spy on everyone | Aug 05 15:39 |
| MinceR | they don't know what to do with the data they collect, but they must have it | Aug 05 15:39 |
| superkuh | I don't think that is the motivation behind this behavior. | Aug 05 15:39 |
| superkuh | Unless there's evidence otherwise I blame profit motive. | Aug 05 15:39 |
| superkuh | If this behavior helps 'normal' users then they'll do it. | Aug 05 15:40 |
| MinceR | well, the NSA probably pays microshit for backdoor access | Aug 05 15:42 |
| superkuh | Okay. | Aug 05 15:43 |
| Narrator | well | Aug 05 15:49 |
| Narrator | there is possibility that they not pay | Aug 05 15:50 |
| MinceR | well, there's also the monopolies maintained by the uhmerican government as payment | Aug 05 15:51 |
| Narrator | i rememeber there was a an article with some prices of access to users data from various corporation | Aug 05 15:51 |
| Narrator | the ms offered users data for free for goverment | Aug 05 15:52 |
| MinceR | ah, so they were paid in some other form | Aug 05 15:52 |
| Narrator | exactly | Aug 05 15:52 |
| MinceR | like how now the government is bothering fecesbook, crApple, google and amazon, but not microsloth | Aug 05 15:52 |
| superkuh | I have no doubt that MS is buddy/buddy with the federal government and does such things. But I think their motivation for treating edits to the hosts file can be explained entirely by their belief that users are stupid and have to be protected from themselves and that that kind of software sells best. | Aug 05 15:53 |
| MinceR | or how they never got into any trouble for becoming the gatekeepers of the UEFI PC OS market | Aug 05 15:53 |
| Narrator | goverment get the microsoft the monopoly position | Aug 05 15:53 |
| Narrator | and get all users data | Aug 05 15:53 |
| Narrator | i mean back microsoft to get the monopoly in operatin systems | Aug 05 15:54 |
| Narrator | crowfunding of wiretaping people | Aug 05 15:56 |
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| *Now talking on #techrights | Aug 05 16:17 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Aug 05 16:17 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Aug 05 16:17 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Coffee | Aug 05 16:18 | |
| psydread | to me it's a completely ridiculous thing to want to control hardware through something as banal as UEFI and boot firmware lock-in, that could be done through u-boot or EDK II or something | Aug 05 16:18 |
| MinceR | yeah, but those aren't nearly bloated or broken enough | Aug 05 16:18 |
| MinceR | (or, to put it succinctly, not "modern") | Aug 05 16:19 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Badness | Aug 05 17:00 | |
| XRevan86 | Hah, there are rumours that Pavel Durov is planning to sell Telegram to a Russian corporation. | Aug 05 17:13 |
| XRevan86 | And when I heard that, it immediately stroke me as the best financial decision he can possibly make with it. | Aug 05 17:14 |
| psydread | that's great, that Russian corporation will be able to integrate it with VK and get data on all Russians both domestically and abroad | Aug 05 17:16 |
| XRevan86 | psydread: And it is rumoured that the likely candidate is Mail.Ru | Aug 05 17:17 |
| XRevan86 | So⦠yep, that's the plan. | Aug 05 17:17 |
| XRevan86 | Who else, really, though. Yandex or Sberbank come to mind. | Aug 05 17:18 |
| XRevan86 | Sberbank got "Internet platform" ambitions lately, they even killed 2GIS. | Aug 05 17:18 |
| XRevan86 | bought, I mean bought 2GIS. | Aug 05 17:18 |
| psydread | it should be clear by now that centralised closed services eventually always sell themselves and their users out | Aug 05 17:22 |
| XRevan86 | Yes, the closest examples are the frequently mentioned Skype and ICQ | Aug 05 17:23 |
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| XRevan86 | I guess that means that by far the biggest userbase of Telegram is in Russia. | Aug 05 17:33 |
| XRevan86 | If the buyers are here. | Aug 05 17:33 |
| psydread | there is a lack of fundamental understanding among users what these services are really about | Aug 05 17:33 |
| psydread | yes | Aug 05 17:34 |
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| psydread | I am on it, but I ran into its limitations too | Aug 05 17:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It says this wouldn't block telemetry anyway since it directly communicates with them using IP addresses. | Aug 05 18:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But yes, Windiws 8 screamed at me for modifying hosts. | Aug 05 18:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It was an easy way in older versions of Windows to prevent Microsoft from putting ads into Windows Live Messenger. | Aug 05 18:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | At least a couple of times, they ran ads that installed malware using the Trident Internet Explorer engine used to display the ad. | Aug 05 18:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So having Windows Live Messenger put you at risk of a hijacked advertisement installing malware on your computer when it was served by Microsoft's ad network itself. | Aug 05 18:04 |
| XRevan86 | And here I thought the easier way was Pidgin | Aug 05 18:06 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Suddenly Florida's cases per day dropped by half. That's obviously impossible, for that to happen suddenly like thiss. | Aug 05 18:29 |
| liberty_box | https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-53655604 | Aug 05 18:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Coronavirus card payments: Thousands back Birds bakery manager - BBC News | Aug 05 18:29 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | liberty_box: Yeah, I'd recommend spending down cash if you have a lot of it. | Aug 05 18:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Places are starting to use the virus as an excuse not to accept it. | Aug 05 18:31 |
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| scientes | liberty_box, oh god | Aug 05 18:35 |
| scientes | liberty_box, BBC to people: YOU CANNOT RUN, YOU CANNOT HIDE | Aug 05 18:35 |
| scientes | BBC to peons: WE DONT CARE IF YOU ARE A 60 BAKER, YOU ARE STILL OUR SLAVE | Aug 05 18:36 |
| scientes | 60 YEAR OLD | Aug 05 18:36 |
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| scientes | AND THIS IS THE UK SO YOU CAN"T JUST OPEN YOUR OWN BUSINESS | Aug 05 18:37 |
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| schestowitz | [18:31] <DaemonFC[m]> Places are starting to use the virus as an excuse not to accept it. | Aug 05 18:45 |
| schestowitz | true, sadlty | Aug 05 18:45 |
| schestowitz | BUT... | Aug 05 18:45 |
| schestowitz | you can then reward and encourage those who still accept it | Aug 05 18:46 |
| schestowitz | as we did today | Aug 05 18:46 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: 4 restaurants in 3 days now | Aug 05 18:46 |
| schestowitz | 40 pounds off the price, paid by the government "scheme" | Aug 05 18:46 |
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| liberty_box | scientes: It feels like my husband got fair play after his experience with Pollen bakery today. | Aug 05 18:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, you really. Like any government plot they're taking your money and you're like well if I'm paying for it I'll damned well use it. | Aug 05 18:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Taxes are more about controlling behavior and keeping some sort of lid on inflation than they are about funding the government. | Aug 05 18:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It also gives the currency a big source of value, because you suddenly need it to pay your taxes with. | Aug 05 18:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's a big reason why Libertarians find taxation to be theft and offensive. | Aug 05 18:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It takes money from you as a punishment for working, so it can give it to some asshole for working less. | Aug 05 18:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In exchange, these people get their behavior controlled by the government while it fosters a dependency upon the government by the underclass. | Aug 05 18:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A government that does the bare minimum to keep them fed and not rioting, mind you. | Aug 05 18:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Also, it puts it into a "scheme" where they say it will be there when you retire, but in reality this "scheme" is falling apart in the next 10 year and it's just more theft of money you could have saved or invested yourself. | Aug 05 19:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But while it goes into that scheme, it's not actually yours. So many people end up dying before getting anything back out of the scheme, and that's the end of that. | Aug 05 19:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Since Social Security requires you to have worked for a substantial amount of your life to get anything at all back out of it, it's not measurably better than simply saving money yourself and living with the shitty consequences of your own actions if you put it into magic beans. | Aug 05 19:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Worse yet, it's a tax on employment, which encourages businesses to figure out ways to hire fewer people and get more work out of them per hour to keep the payroll taxes down. | Aug 05 19:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You only see half the tax, but it's really double what you pay in. | Aug 05 19:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's a disaster designed to work for politicians in the 1940s who would never be alive 80 or 90 years later when the mess ballooned and then exploded, and it's got so many holes in it that no matter how many you plug, it's leaking like a sieve. | Aug 05 19:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | systemd-retirementd | Aug 05 19:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think there's a lot of ways that we could go forward with something like this and reform it to work better, but politicians on both sides want to bring us to the brink of disaster so they can be the ones who decide what to do with it and it's an emergency so the other party will have to come to the table. | Aug 05 19:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's like the government shutdowns, only way worse. | Aug 05 19:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | What I think needs to be done here, and it never will, is to turn this into a tax on business profits, not payrolls. | Aug 05 19:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It goes into a pot, and then gets put into private investment accounts proportionally to how many works credits your salary is pegged to using what amounts to an exchange float. | Aug 05 19:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | As the recipient of such an account, you control how to diversify and invest using a system comparable to the Thrift Savings Plan set up for federal government employees. | Aug 05 19:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you die, your will can direct who gets the amount currently in the account deposited into theirs. | Aug 05 19:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Upon being served with a notarized copy of the will and the death certificate by the executor of the estate, the Treasury makes the transfer. | Aug 05 19:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think we need something, but Social Security as it exists now is a political football that is unsustainable. You can't make the math work because it doesn't work. | Aug 05 19:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you nudge it a little this way or that way, it goes on rolling and becomes a bigger disaster somewhere else. Either/or in taxation, benefit amount, or employment levels. | Aug 05 19:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's the government for you. | Aug 05 19:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm not a mathematician and I see it, so I know other people must see it. The only reason it doesn't absolutely have to balance out is because of currency devaluation. But that's another way the math can fuck you. | Aug 05 19:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If the government hyperinflates to say there's no benefit cuts, but the money isn't what it used to be, you're not better off. | Aug 05 19:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Japan has a retirement crisis, obviously. They have so many people who aren't contributing to the economy because they're old that their economy is stuck on a treadmill and the debt will soon be 3 times what their economy can produce in a single year. | Aug 05 19:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It actually gets much worse. Because the scam of "post-industrial economy" which is a polite way of saying "We're decadent and rotten, and there is no real economy. Just patents and banking, and shit. Oh my!". | Aug 05 19:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's been happening in the US and much of Europe. | Aug 05 19:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: That's why the midwest turned solid red for Trump and now Biden is ahead everywhere but Indiana. | Aug 05 19:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | (and Illinois) | Aug 05 19:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But he did much better in Illinois than a Republican could be expected to do in 2016 and he caused a sort of "stay of execution" for the Illinois Republican Party. | Aug 05 19:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They were around for a while longer with sufficient numbers to gum up the works. | Aug 05 19:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He told them there would be jobs. Then what actually happened was more offshoring and more bullshit and GM said so long and closed down 5 more factories by themselves. | Aug 05 19:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So then this happened. There's a lot of angry unemployed people here who were going "Hey wait a minute. Trump said there'd be jobs. There's less jobs than ever!" all the way back before the shutdowns. | Aug 05 19:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Now businesses are using the shutdown layoffs to just not call people back that they don't want. | Aug 05 19:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | These businesses are in serious and ongoing trouble because of prior troubles with the Coronavirus economy on top. | Aug 05 19:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.businessinsider.com/macys-executives-received-9-million-in-bonuses-after-3900-layoffs-2020-7 | Aug 05 19:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businessinsider.com | Macy's executives got $9 million in bonuses after 3,900 layoffs - Business Insider | Aug 05 19:20 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Macy's is setting themselves up so that they can lay people off and then a lot of them are old and they'll be eligible for pension, but then the company can slam them with a Chapter 11 bankruptcy and declare that they are "creditors". | Aug 05 19:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Meanwhile, $9 million, which is about the amount of stolen pension, was just given to their executives. | Aug 05 19:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So they're using strategic bankruptcy to get out of pensions and give it to execs instead. Should be illegal. Should be clawed back. It won't be. Penneys did it. | Aug 05 19:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The pensions were designed to supplement Social Security with a few hundred bucks a month on top. | Aug 05 19:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They might get that, they might not. The Pension Guaranty Corp (government agency that charges insurance premiums on pensions) might take it over and make them whole. | Aug 05 19:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So Social Security is increasingly becoming the only income old people have, and it's not pretty. | Aug 05 19:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The average benefit is only $1,300 a month. Many people get less than that. | Aug 05 19:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | My dad used to call it Socialized Insecurity. | Aug 05 19:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | What the fuck are you supposed to do with a little over $1,000 a month? That's less than what it costs to rent an apartment? | Aug 05 19:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Buy a bullet and rent a gun, apparently. | Aug 05 19:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: The seniors who don't get killed by the virus are watching their hard-earned pensions being stolen from them by C level executives. | Aug 05 19:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So a senior poverty crisis is now here. | Aug 05 19:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I can't imagine things are looking too much better in the UK. | Aug 05 19:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They had problems that were probably 20 years ahead of ours before the virus. | Aug 05 19:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Now they're talking about some goddamned restaurant scheme while the NHS was already collapsing. | Aug 05 19:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | People should be busting out the guillotine over this. | Aug 05 19:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | As bad as it is in the US..... You know, I think a scheme to make it cheap for rich people to wine and dine would be the last straw. You think we're having riots now. | Aug 05 19:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's bad that many restaurants will go to bankruptcy court and never reopen. But...... | Aug 05 19:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Trying to save them with half off subsidies is both a moral hazard and bad optics. | Aug 05 19:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think the politicians are smart enough not to go there. | Aug 05 19:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The message would be "42% of people will lose their house the minute the executive order expires....but you're giving rich people with two BMWs in the driveway half off steak and lobster?". | Aug 05 19:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We've finally found a bridge too far for the US politicians, I think. | Aug 05 19:33 |
| MinceR | (cat) https://ircz.de/p/20020446 | Aug 05 19:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4331657) | Aug 05 19:34 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's sickening that the US economy turned into Panem in the first place. Instead of heavy industry we get a bunch of serfs working at a restaurant for the 1992 tipped minimum wage. | Aug 05 19:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It hasn't gone up, federally, since Roseanne complained about it in an episode of Roseanne in 1992. | Aug 05 19:35 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | If our government does bailout the restaurants, a lot of the money should be raising the tipped minimum wage to $10 (5 times its current amount at the federal level) and pay for the difference until the pandemic is over, and only then should be be talking about whether there should be subsidies for the menu items. Because the UK plan sounds a lot like feeding the sparrows through the horse. | Aug 05 19:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's where you gorge the horse, the horse shits more, and the sparrows come eat the stuff that made it out of the horse and into the shit. | Aug 05 19:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's another way to describe "trickle down". | Aug 05 19:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In other words, we'll give Roy and the Mrs. half off, but it really goes to the restaurant owner, and maybe the staff benefits a little bit by even having a job at all. | Aug 05 19:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then customers come in and cough all over the restaurant employees, and then they get sick. | Aug 05 19:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They don't know about it for weeks and give it to customers... | Aug 05 19:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This sound awful clusterfuck-ish to me. Like a way to make sure the virus never goes away and to transfer tax money to business owners. | Aug 05 19:41 |
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| psydread | it seems I have a gift tot spot and rile up MS astroturfers, this one came back to attack me in the most vicious way imaginable | Aug 05 20:20 |
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| psydread | so this must be their strategy now that Apple and everyone's mother is abandoning them | Aug 05 20:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Eh, I don't see much of a future for Windows. It's gone on supercomputing. People are demanding Linux for servers, even if they are running in a VM on a "cloud" somewhere. | Aug 05 20:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Microsoft is using Linux internally to run their "cloud". | Aug 05 20:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Windows "Pro" and "Enterprise" revenue is cratering. | Aug 05 20:26 |
| psydread | so why spend so much money and time on astroturfing? an attempt to stem the bleeding? | Aug 05 20:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Home sku OEM revenue is up, but rebates. There's no way an OEM can slap together a decent laptop and pay a $50 license fee for Windows and keep it around $200 so Microsoft pays out rebates to have it shipped in S Mode, even if the person buying it takes it out of S Mode. | Aug 05 20:27 |
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| psydread | also when I send one home packing to cry on momma's shoulder they invite their friends over | Aug 05 20:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <psydread "so why spend so much money and t"> They still do have a Windows division and it does make money, but it's in decline. Their advertising and search business is down double digits. | Aug 05 20:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It makes sense. Their "rebalancing and optimization" wording makes sense. | Aug 05 20:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The XBOX and Azure divisions, according to their SEC report, are the growth sectors of the business. | Aug 05 20:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Windows is mostly sidelined. It makes sense to develop it for many reasons. For one, the XBOX Operating System is based on Windows, so they have to maintain Windows because the XBOX uses the majority of it anyway. | Aug 05 20:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So when you look at it from that angle, a division that is growing rapidly does require the core of Windows 10, and once you're developing that, Windows as a product shares in the development cost with what you're doing anyway. | Aug 05 20:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But I wouldn't be surprised if they eventually release an XBOX where the internal OS is some sort of Linux system. | Aug 05 20:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I mean, if you think about it, it makes a lot of sense. It's a thin OS and it performs well, it's reliable, most of the cost of maintaining it falls on other companies. | Aug 05 20:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There exist graphics drivers that are highly optimized for gaming and how Microsoft sets them up is invisible to the user anyway, | Aug 05 20:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think this business where Sony maintains their own graphics API and uses FreeBSD is ridiculous. | Aug 05 20:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It would make far more sense to use Linux and Vulkan. | Aug 05 20:32 |
| psydread | what also catches my eye is how they oppose anything to do with ARM, whether it's news of Raspberry Pi or Apple taking hold with developers | Aug 05 20:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Sony is extremely hostile to the GPL. Much more so than Microsoft. | Aug 05 20:33 |
| psydread | it doesn't look like grassroots opposition at all | Aug 05 20:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I mean, they ship Android phones, but what are you going to do? | Aug 05 20:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Custom OEM operating systems are dead. Have been for years. | Aug 05 20:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No avoiding Android now. | Aug 05 20:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Microsoft even gave up trying to do Windows Mobile. I think it really was a branding issue. | Aug 05 20:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Windows mobile division has, at times, been years ahead of the competition, and not horribly unreliable either. | Aug 05 20:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It didn't matter. Microsoft is toxic as a brand and even when people use Windows for some reason on their computer, they run away from Microsoft's browser which is why it has to resort to malware tactics. | Aug 05 20:35 |
| psydread | I read some articles on Neowin about that today, now comments there like on all the other MS apologists' sites are so toxic when people point out that the company had its chances and blew it over and over | Aug 05 20:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think if Microsoft acquires TikTok it's more likely that TikTok is seen as "Microsoft....eww." and people abandon it and it's worth nothing. | Aug 05 20:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The NPR article about TikTok making Microsoft cool is ridiculous. | Aug 05 20:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Microsoft will make TikTok "not cool". | Aug 05 20:36 |
| psydread | they would do good to keep that branding as far away as possible, but knowing the company it's certain they're going to ruin that too | Aug 05 20:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | When I did use Windows XP on my computer, I was derided by people who said their Mac was so much better blah blah blah. I was like "Yeah, get back to me when there's a G5 in your laptop.". | Aug 05 20:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | :) | Aug 05 20:37 |
| psydread | just like they made Skype not cool | Aug 05 20:37 |
| psydread | and not functional | Aug 05 20:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It doesn't matter if it actually is better or not. | Aug 05 20:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Microsoft is fucking toxic right now for the same reason it was in 2003. | Aug 05 20:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's seen as the operating system of "Attention Walmart Shoppers!". | Aug 05 20:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So if you use Microsoft anything, the Apple people thumb their nose and say you must be a poor person who does illegal things with your computer. | Aug 05 20:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Even though that would be insane because of Windows Pretender. | Aug 05 20:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | At its core, a lot of Windows Defender is based on this product Microsoft bought a long time ago that I had certainly never heard about. It was called Giant AntiSpyware. | Aug 05 20:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So the first release....I tried it. It was literally just Giant AntiSpyware renamed Microsoft AntiSpyware. | Aug 05 20:41 |
| psydread | my mom is an example of someone who hasn't touched Windows ever since it got ransomware 4 years ago, when I was living abroad | Aug 05 20:42 |
| psydread | and been happy using Android phones ever since | Aug 05 20:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Windows Vista was what aggravated me. | Aug 05 20:47 |
| superkuh | HN frontpage today. | Aug 05 20:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Windows XP improved a lot over the years and it ran well on nearly anything by the end, and Windows Vista comes out and bumps the hardware requirements by 10x just to run at all. | Aug 05 20:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think that XP x64 Edition generally ran okay. | Aug 05 20:48 |
| psydread | Vista is the one I never actually used | Aug 05 20:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I moved one of my computers over to that for a while as a reaction to Vista. I needed to use more RAM than XP could address, but didn't want Windows Vista. | Aug 05 20:49 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | It could address more RAM, but also....needed a lot more RAM. | Aug 05 20:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Microsoft deliberately made XP x64 hard to get at because they didn't want a situation where people went "This does what I need!" and refuse Vista. | Aug 05 20:50 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | It was branded as XP, but internally it was built on Windows 2003. | Aug 05 20:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So it had different service packs and stuff. | Aug 05 20:50 |
| *XRevan86 used Π¨inXP x86_64 for a bit, too. | Aug 05 20:52 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Microsoft employs more than 4,700 programmers who work on Windows, 60% of whom are software testers[12] whose job is to find bugs in Windows source code." | Aug 05 20:52 |
| MinceR | lol | Aug 05 20:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Microsoft got rid of all of the internal testers. | Aug 05 20:52 |
| MinceR | and what do those "software testers" do? | Aug 05 20:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's just automated testing now and if it passes that, it goes out to some people and telemetry tells it what's going on. | Aug 05 20:53 |
| MinceR | if they do find bugs, what happens to their reports? | Aug 05 20:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Hunger Games. Windows 10 Edition. | Aug 05 20:53 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Try to break windows. Easy. | Aug 05 20:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If it breaks your computer, Microsoft might pull the update. | Aug 05 20:53 |
| MinceR | so why is it still a massively bug-ridden turd? | Aug 05 20:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Too late for you.. | Aug 05 20:53 |
| MinceR | how does this shit even get released in the first place, if they allegedly do testing? | Aug 05 20:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So they quietly pared the Windows programming team from 4,700 people down to something like 1,800 by getting rid of the testers. | Aug 05 20:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That goes roughly to a figure I heard from someone who got laid off. | Aug 05 20:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He said with Windows 8.1, they had the Windows division head count down to about 1,700 people. | Aug 05 20:55 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | They whittled the headcount down to where it doesn't cost them much to develop it and random home users are the guinea pigs. | Aug 05 20:55 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | The Window EULA says you have no warranty from Microsoft and they don't guarantee you won't lose data. | Aug 05 20:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Some people sued them over Windows 10's upgrader hosing their computer and Microsoft settled with one lady out of court to pay her lawyer, give her $10,000, and a new computer. | Aug 05 20:56 |
| MinceR | all software licenses i'm aware of disclaim warranty | Aug 05 20:57 |
| MinceR | and it seems that the law tends to allow it | Aug 05 20:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Someone in their legal team must have told them "We're pretty sure the EULA covers us, but if this goes class action, $15,000 to make it go away now is cheap compared to what a jury could decide.". | Aug 05 20:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A jury could decide to strike the EULA entirely and set up a $30 million compensation fund and then Microsoft's sending out $150 checks to everyone who had their computer hosed by Get Windows 10. | Aug 05 20:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Easier to make the bitch go away for $15,000 before she becomes lead plaintiff. | Aug 05 20:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Republicans say class action lawsuits are frivolous. But I'd say that without them, there'd be more incentive for companies to do wrong because if everyone had to sue them in an individual capacity, they wouldn't, and the damages would be minimal. | Aug 05 21:01 |
| psydread | which is why no one should never allow this sorry excuse for an operating system anywhere near their computers | Aug 05 21:01 |
| psydread | -no | Aug 05 21:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Illinois has its worst day for COVID-19 cases in over 6 weeks. | Aug 05 21:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's been steadily climbing here. | Aug 05 21:05 |
| superkuh | What about covid-19 hospitalizations? | Aug 05 21:06 |
| superkuh | Hmm. Il isn't part of covidnet or iep or ihsp. | Aug 05 21:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They stopped publishing state level data in several states. | Aug 05 21:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You now have to add up county level data to get a hospitalization number for the state. | Aug 05 21:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Florida did that. | Aug 05 21:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Might go see if the neighbors dumped canned vegetables they didn't want in the trash. | Aug 05 21:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's just nuts. Each week I find about $10-12 worth of canned vegetables that there's nothing wrong with. Why do they go to a food pantry and then throw half of it out? | Aug 05 21:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Agricultural surplus.... | Aug 05 21:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Strange how there's still so much of it. | Aug 05 21:22 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I saw a post where a landlord left a note on people's doors saying anyone with $0 due on the 1st of August would be entered to win $335 in rent credit. | Aug 05 21:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Not that you would get it, but you'd be entered to win along with all the other paid up tenants. | Aug 05 21:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Oddly $335 is the exact filing fee for bankruptcy, but probably a coincidence. | Aug 05 21:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yes, it costs money to file bankruptcy. | Aug 05 21:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | $335 to the court and whatever you pay your lawyer. | Aug 05 21:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Chapter 7 can be done without a lawyer. Statistically, though it's 70% get approved if you file without a lawyer and 99% with a lawyer. So you're taking the chance, still, that you fundamentally misunderstand a bankruptcy regulation and it totals your entire case. | Aug 05 21:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | With Chapter 13, you have a 1% chance of getting it done properly without a lawyer. | Aug 05 21:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Chapter 13 plans are tough. You have assets, maybe a lot of them. You just can't pay your bills. It brings everyone to the table and a majority of your creditors that attend the meetings have to approve your repayment plan. Then in 3-5 years the rest of the debt goes away. | Aug 05 21:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | With Chapter 7, you either have no assets or nothing worth protecting to the extent that it's worth taking years on a payment plan instead. | Aug 05 21:41 |
| superkuh | ...and it's gone. HN users got their panties in a bunch and flagged it until it was killed off the front page. | Aug 05 21:44 |
| psydread | the RH newsitem? | Aug 05 21:48 |
| psydread | yeah, I couldn't find it anymore | Aug 05 21:48 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | "Zoombombers today disrupted a court hearing involving the Florida teen accused of masterminding a takeover of high-profile Twitter accounts, forcing the judge to stop the hearing. "During the hearing, the judge and attorneys were interrupted several times with people shouting racial slurs, playing music, and showing pornographic images," ABC Action News in Tampa Bay wrote. A Pornhub video forced the judge to | Aug 05 22:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | temporarily shut down the hearing." | Aug 05 22:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/08/zoombomber-crashes-court-hearing-on-twitter-hack-with-pornhub-video/ | Aug 05 22:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Zoombomber crashes court hearing on Twitter hack with Pornhub video | Ars Technica | Aug 05 22:20 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | :) | Aug 05 22:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://twitter.com/JayCesar_sB/status/1291009009420574723 | Aug 05 22:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JayCesar_sB: Ayooooooo!!! Hacker from my city peep the live stream!!! #Hacker #HackerTampa πππ @KEEMSTAR enjoy !! https://t.co/qh1OjwPaKb | Aug 05 22:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JayCesar_sB: Ayooooooo!!! Hacker from my city peep the live stream!!! #Hacker #HackerTampa πππ @KEEMSTAR enjoy !! https://t.co/qh1OjwPaKb | Aug 05 22:22 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | NSFW | Aug 05 22:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It said the judge set bail at $725,000 but removed a condition that he prove legitimacy of his bail funds. | Aug 05 22:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Says Graham Clark as $3 million in his bitcoin wallet. | Aug 05 22:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'd post bail and flee the country, personally. | Aug 05 22:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Still have over $2 million in bitcoin after bail. | Aug 05 22:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | $2.3 million would last quite a while on the run. Even in the US, although they'd eventually find you here. | Aug 05 22:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Staying in motels and paying cash worked for Phil Katz with 7 arrest warrants out on him, but they didn't want him that bad. They were misdemeanors and some low grade felonies. | Aug 05 22:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They have Bitcoin ATMs in Chicago. Probably elsewhere. | Aug 05 22:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Should provide enough cash to keep moving, I'd imagine. | Aug 05 22:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Another alternative is to fill up a duffelbag of cash while you're on bail waiting for the court dates and then scram at the last minute. | Aug 05 22:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | First off would be getting out of the state of Florida. They're Florida charges. So the least you need to do is get as far away from Florida as you can.. | Aug 05 22:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Alaska might not be a terrible idea. | Aug 05 22:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They'd extradite to Florida if they found you, but nobody there would be looking for a fugitive from Florida. | Aug 05 22:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Any state that just doesn't have a ton of government would be best. | Aug 05 22:34 |
| psydread | http://techrights.org/2009/06/06/astroturfers-are-masquerading/ | Aug 05 22:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When Microsoft AstroTurfers Are Masquerading as GNU/Linux Users | Techrights | Aug 05 22:34 | |
| psydread | a throwback to old times and they are still doing the same things | Aug 05 22:35 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/20020829 | Aug 05 22:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4341622) | Aug 05 22:41 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Now they masquerade as Linux users who really want to hear more about WSL. | Aug 05 22:45 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | "Before COVID-19, how often did you go to the movie theater?" | Aug 05 22:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Apparently I'm part of the 3% who said "weekly" | Aug 05 22:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Sometimes to see a big movie. More frequently because it was anime night and they had a huge screen and those "4DX" seats at no extra charge on bargain night. | Aug 05 22:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Which constitutional amendment, 100 years old in 2020, gave women the right to vote?" | Aug 05 22:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 54% (including me) out of 286,000 people on MSN said "the 19th Amendment". | Aug 05 22:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 30% answered that it was the one that repealed Prohibition. | Aug 05 22:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 16% said that it was the one that outlawed slavery, which is 155 years old. | Aug 05 22:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | #DOOMED | Aug 05 22:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You don't need to do what the Dumbocrat Party wants and make History illegal because that be rayciss. 46% can't tell you what each amendment to our constitution did. Even the really really important ones. | Aug 05 22:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm sure that in the Totally Not Racist At All Chicago Public Schools, where they go to learn how to shank each other and set the teacher on fire in a dumpster after raping her, they can tell you what the 1968 Chicago Riots were all about and the continuing impact they have on the city. | Aug 05 23:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Crime, Social Decay, the Civil War, and most importantly.....peanut butter. | Aug 05 23:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's what we must remember each February when the Reverse Racists try to go to work on what we all know, again. | Aug 05 23:06 |
| psydread | what kind of schooling system is that? | Aug 05 23:11 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | The one they have in Chicago. | Aug 05 23:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm not making this up. Some 14/15 year olds gang raped a teacher and then murdered her, and then threw her in a dumpster and set the body on fire. | Aug 05 23:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 2016 | Aug 05 23:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You're not dealing with the best people, you know. | Aug 05 23:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's why Chicago is so fucked up. | Aug 05 23:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Something like that happens at least once a day if you're very lucky. | Aug 05 23:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you say anything about the shitty culture that turned this into a generational thing, you hear about inequality and how we need to pay reparations, and it's really the fault of the police if you think about it. | Aug 05 23:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like MinceR said, they try very hard to make people overcome their disgust and vote for the Republicans. | Aug 05 23:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Tried that and the Republicans got a governor in, and then they all abandoned him as soon as he signed a new abortion bill and so now they're getting everything they don't want. | Aug 05 23:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's what happens when you're a single issue voter. | Aug 05 23:19 |
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| MinceR | i don't think i said that though :> | Aug 05 23:20 |
| MinceR | 05 020312 <@MinceR> and all the efforts the "democrats" make is to stay a _bit_ less disgusting | Aug 05 23:20 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/20020816 | Aug 05 23:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4341310) | Aug 05 23:36 | |
| psydread | you just don't hear about such things happening over here, it's an alternate reality | Aug 05 23:41 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: the story is going 'viral' again | Aug 05 23:56 |
| schestowitz | expect 200k | Aug 05 23:56 |
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