●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, February 06, 2022 ●● ● Feb 06 [00:00] bnchs__ ok what about 20dh (2GB) [00:01] psydroid8 even that is not that much, but if you stick with text-based stuff, you can probably manage [00:01] psydroid8 that's not how most people use the internet, though [00:02] bnchs__ it's 1dh = 100mb [00:03] bnchs__ and it lasts a week [00:04] psydroid8 it's bad [00:05] psydroid8 unless you really know how to restrict yourself [00:06] bnchs__ if you saved up all the recharge codes instead of loading them all at once, it could last you many months [00:09] psydroid8 here I don't have a mobile subscription [00:11] bnchs__ good night [00:11] *bnchs__ has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:23] MinceR https://nitter.net/pic/media%2FEvvBR7bVcAIu38S.jpg%3Fname%3Dorig [00:39] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [00:40] *psydroid4 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techrights ● Feb 06 [01:01] TR News #GNU #dbm version 1.23 (stable) released on 4 February 2022 https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Gdbm [01:01] TR Bot Gdbm - Free Software Directory [01:02] TR News #GNU Guile-SDL version 0.6.0 (stable) released on 5 February 2022 https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Guile-sdl [01:02] TR Bot timed out after 10000 milliseconds with 0 out of 0 bytes received ( status 0 @ https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Guile-sdl ) [01:02] TR News Diona Hill https://assets.amuniversal.com/4da747705d30013a93c2005056a9545d [01:02] TR News The EPOs Overseer/Overseen #Collusion Part XXXXII: A Parcel of Rogues? Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/05/epo-parcel-of-rogues/ #Techrights #epo #corruption #europe [01:02] TR Bot The EPOs Overseer/Overseen Collusion Part XXXXII: A Parcel of Rogues? | Techrights [01:03] TR News [Meme] Wrong People Given Too Much Power Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/05/power-trips-epo/ #Techrights #epo #corruption #europe [01:03] TR Bot [Meme] Wrong People Given Too Much Power | Techrights [01:03] TR News 7 Hot #FreeSW Application Servers for #Python Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161133 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:03] TR Bot 7 Hot Free and Open Source Application Servers for Python | Tux Machines [01:04] TR News #Ubuntu: The next LTS release is prepping for launch Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161134 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:04] TR Bot Ubuntu: The next LTS release is prepping for launch | Tux Machines [01:04] TR News #Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161135 #Linux #TuxMachines [01:04] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [01:05] TR News #KDE Plasma continues improving to stop you breaking things http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161122#comment-32743 [01:05] TR Bot This week in KDE: Discover redesign has begun | Tux Machines [01:07] TR News Multiple Ways Of Recovering A Failed Print | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2022/02/04/multiple-ways-of-recovering-a-failed-print/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/06/#latest [01:07] TR Bot Ways Of Recovering A Failed Print | Hackaday [01:07] TR Bot Social Control Media Posts [01:07] TR News Now even #gulag can always "succeed" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/stadia-continues-the-slow-downward-spiral [01:07] Alternative link Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/stadia-continues-the-slow-downward-spiral [01:07] TR Bot continues the slow downward spiral | GamingOnLinux [01:08] TR News Wait, didn't Humble poo on #gnu #linux ? https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/get-some-quality-games-and-help-charity-in-the-fck-cancer-bundle [01:08] Alternative link Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/get-some-quality-games-and-help-charity-in-the-fck-cancer-bundle [01:08] TR Bot some quality games and help charity in the F*CK CANCER Bundle | GamingOnLinux [01:12] TR News "This has become so easy in 2022. In the first 2 minutes of the video you will be setup, then config, and my personal settings on how to use #retropi ." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=qJSQVctF6z0 [01:12] TR Bot Create your own retro gaming console - Invidious [01:14] AdmFubar https://citizen.typepad.com/eyesontrade/2021/11/apple-and-google-want-us-trade-officials-to-attack-anti-monopoly-law.html [01:14] Alternative link Cloudflare: typepad.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://citizen.typepad.com/eyesontrade/2021/11/apple-and-google-want-us-trade-officials-to-attack-anti-monopoly-law.html [01:14] TR Bot Eyes on Trade: Apple and Google Want U.S. Trade Officials to Attack Anti-Monopoly Law [01:14] XRevan86 https://nitter.eu/emeraldic/status/1490044711494721548 [01:14] TR Bot Anastasia Biryukova (@emeraldic): "@AppleSupport all accounts with signed Paid Agreement of developers from Belarus were blocked, could you please comment situation? As I understand, it's not a restricted region, so it's the government's sanctions list? 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[01:21] TR News "After six years, we finally have a new stable release of #Slackware . Like many of you, I've been waiting for this release for awhile, and I'm looking forward to running through an installation and first look today! Let's see if the wait was worth it!" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=L_T-HBQH2tI #gnu #linux [01:21] TR Bot A New Release of Slackware! Worth The Wait? - Invidious [01:25] TR News The Weirdest Hack | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2022/02/05/the-weirdest-hack/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/06/#latest [01:25] TR Bot Weirdest Hack | Hackaday [01:27] TR News "It claims it found you savings, but then when you look at the quotes, theyre actually for state minimum policies from questionable companies." https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/02/05/review-of-jerry-app-for-car-insurance-quotes/ [01:27] TR Bot Review of Jerry app for car insurance quotes. BaronHK's Rants [01:28] TR News Create an app with this Arnold Schwarzenegger-themed programming language | https://opensource.com/article/22/2/arnoldc-create-app C on (anabolic) steroids? #FreeSW #RedHat #IBM #GNU #Linux [01:28] TR Bot an app with this Arnold Schwarzenegger-themed programming language | Opensource.com [01:28] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161137 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:28] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [01:29] TR News #CentOS Dojo is over, hello #FOSDEM! :: Penses de Michel Personal thoughts and musings https://michel-slm.name/posts/2022-02-04-centos-dojo-and-fosdem/ #ibm [01:29] TR Bot CentOS Dojo is over, hello FOSDEM! :: Penses de Michel Personal thoughts and musings [01:30] TR News The millionth reason to NEVER buy "your" next car https://stop.zona-m.net/2022/02/the-millionth-reason-to-never-buy-your-next-car/ see http://techrights.org/2022/01/02/no-control-over-cars/ [01:30] TR Bot The millionth reason to NEVER buy "your" next car | Stop at Zona-M [01:30] TR Bot Index: Loss of Control Over Cars | Techrights [01:31] DaemonFC https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220203/18143448411/how-earn-it-act-is-significantly-more-dangerous-than-fosta.shtml [01:31] Alternative link Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220203/18143448411/how-earn-it-act-is-significantly-more-dangerous-than-fosta.shtml [01:31] TR Bot The EARN IT Act Is Significantly More Dangerous Than FOSTA | Techdirt [01:32] DaemonFC If this bill passes, every American will need to use Tor Browser except maybe to do their online banking. [01:33] TR News Reproducible Builds: #ReproducibleBuilds in January 2022 https://reproducible-builds.org/reports/2022-01/ see http://techrights.org/2021/04/29/with-sponsors-like-these/ [01:33] TR Bot Builds in January 2022 reproducible-builds.org [01:33] TR Bot With Sponsors Like These | Techrights [01:34] TR News "At present however my contributions on Wikipedia regarding scientists and projects I know about have all been flagged, either for deletion or for notability." https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/11/the-epic-notability-battle-between-pornstars-and-scientists/ [01:34] TR Bot The epic notability battle between pornstars and scientists | Stop at Zona-M [01:35] TR News The 5 Best #GameEngines for Beginners in Video #Game Development https://www.makeuseof.com/best-free-game-engine-for-beginners/ #makeuseof | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/06/#latest [01:35] TR Bot The 5 Best Game Engines for Beginners in Video Game Development [01:36] TR News "As you can see by yourself from the screenshot taken this year, after ten years only, NONE of those 45 powerful photos is visible anymore. 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[03:52] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:54] TR News The #EARNIT Act is back to attack Section 230 protections - #ElReg https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/02/earnit_act_section230/ #theregister [03:54] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/02/earnit_act_section230/ [03:54] TR Bot The EARN IT Act is back to attack Section 230 protections The Register [03:55] TR News As if #backdoors companies will guard our #security .... https://www.csoonline.com/article/3648353/alpha-omega-project-takes-a-human-centered-approach-to-open-source-software-security.html see http://techrights.org/2020/10/30/openssf-microsoft/ [03:55] TR Bot Alpha-Omega Project takes a human-centered approach to open-source software security | CSO Online [03:55] TR Bot With Microsoft in Charge, OpenSSF Seems More Like Its About Back Doors Not Real Security Inside the Linux Foundation | Techrights ● Feb 06 [04:04] *oarion7 (anonymous@user/oarion7) has joined #techrights [04:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techrights [04:14] TR News #Techrights Bulletin for Saturday, February 05, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [04:14] TR Bot Bulletin Archives [04:14] TR News #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [04:14] TR Bot Techrights Full IPFS Index [04:24] TR News yes, there's (real) life after #socialcontrolmedia bubble https://news.sky.com/story/doubts-over-facebooks-ability-to-innovate-as-it-sees-first-ever-fall-in-user-numbers-12532729 [04:24] TR Bot Doubts over Facebook's ability to innovate as it sees first-ever fall in user numbers | Science & Tech News | Sky News [04:25] kingoffrance well its funny innovate == users [04:25] kingoffrance which is kind of by definition opposite of what innovate means [04:26] kingoffrance if everyone was already doing it, it wasnt much of an "innovation" [04:26] TR News Timothy Prickett Morgan really is an IBM-sponsored PR machine; and he's not disclosing the funding source of the puff pieces https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/02/01/for-ibm-ai-inference-is-the-most-important-hpc/ [04:26] TR Bot For IBM, AI Inference Is The Most Important HPC [04:26] TR News Even what's left of blogs is being bought off... http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/phoronix-went-too-far/ #bought #amd #phoronix [04:26] TR Bot When Blogs Become Marketing and Benchmarks Become Product Promotions | Techrights [04:27] TR News #Spying cities (mass #surveillance all around) marketed like this: https://www.smartcitiesworld.net/open-data/data-alliance-formed-to-promote-global-smart-city-standards [04:27] Alternative link Cloudflare: smartcitiesworld.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.smartcitiesworld.net/open-data/data-alliance-formed-to-promote-global-smart-city-standards [04:27] TR Bot Smart Cities World - Open data - Data alliance formed to promote global smart city standards [04:29] TR News #Openwashing and #greenwashing of #IBM , sponsored by IBM itself with help from LF, its front group https://gsabusiness.com/news/agriculture/81661/ [04:29] TR Bot Clemson partners with IBM and AgStack to aid global food access > GSA Business [04:30] TR News Academic performance and attitudes of dental students impacted by #COVID19 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jdd.12897 [04:30] Alternative link Cloudflare: wiley.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jdd.12897 [04:30] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/action/cookieAbsent ) [04:31] TR News So does #phoronix https://www.thurrott.com/hardware/262131/amd-reports-record-revenues see http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/phoronix-went-too-far/ #amd #bribery [04:31] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.thurrott.com/hardware/262131/amd-reports-record-revenues ) [04:31] Alternative link Cloudflare: thurrott.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thurrott.com/hardware/262131/amd-reports-record-revenues [04:32] TR News "Back-End Developer"... never heard that term before. https://www.makeuseof.com/steps-to-become-a-freelance-back-end-developer/ [04:32] TR Bot 6 Steps to Becoming a Successful Freelance Back-End Developer [04:33] TR News ...making up new buzzwords and new job titles... usually more about optics, rather than about new skills. e.g. server becomes "cloud" and "spying" is now "data" or "science" etc. [04:35] TR News Seems to me like a #trademark issue. https://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/free-bsd-made-easy-releases-new-report-that-analyzes-the-most-popular-hr-software-for-businesses-in-2022 #bsd #unix #freebsd [04:35] Alternative link Cloudflare: digitaljournal.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/free-bsd-made-easy-releases-new-report-that-analyzes-the-most-popular-hr-software-for-businesses-in-2022 [04:35] TR Bot Free BSD Made Easy Releases New Report That Analyzes The Most Popular HR Software for Businesses in 2022 - Digital Journal [04:36] TR News #web3 = #webspam that floods the #www to promote get-rich schemes... [04:37] TR News This is NOT "free". It is just another trap set up by #gulag https://www.crn.com/news/cloud/google-cloud-offers-free-google-workspace-essentials-starter- https://www.crn.com.au/news/google-cloud-launches-free-google-workspace-offer-575571 [04:37] TR Bot Google Cloud Offers Free Google Workspace Essentials Starter [04:37] TR Bot Google Cloud launches free Google Workspace offer - Cloud - Software - CRN Australia [04:38] TR News Scammers and charlatans now target blacks to prop up their multi-level-marketing ploy https://bitcoinmagazine.com/technical/growing-bitcoin-development-in-africa [04:38] TR Bot Growing Bitcoin Development In Africa - Bitcoin Magazine: Bitcoin News, Articles, Charts, and Guides [04:38] Alternative link Cloudflare: bitcoinmagazine.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://bitcoinmagazine.com/technical/growing-bitcoin-development-in-africa [04:39] schestowitz micro larabel Here is how to install GNOME DE using a terminal on a Minimal installation of Debian 11 and do a fresh Debian 11 installation along with the GNOME DE. [04:39] schestowitz wrong paste [04:39] schestowitz micro larabel https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Oracle-Linux-8-Microsoft-Store [04:39] Alternative link Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Oracle-Linux-8-Microsoft-Store [04:39] TR Bot Linux 8 Now Available From The Microsoft Store - Phoronix [04:39] schestowitz about 3 days late to "the news" [04:39] schestowitz mostly helps Microsoft [04:40] schestowitz greedy, unprincipled [04:40] schestowitz and corporate-friendly [04:40] schestowitz the 'new phoronix' [04:45] TR News #gulag is no good, but universities funded by the public turning into parasites isn't good either https://www.reuters.com/legal/transactional/purdue-university-lawsuit-says-google-copied-smartphone-technology-2022-02-02/ [04:45] TR Bot University lawsuit says Google copied smartphone technology | Reuters [04:46] TR News #RaspberryPi vs. Arduino: Which is best for you? Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161144 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [04:46] TR Bot Raspberry Pi vs. Arduino: Which is best for you? | Tux Machines [04:46] TR News Raspberry Pi OS Is Now Available In Glorious 64-bit http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161025#comment-32745 [04:46] TR Bot Raspberry Pi OS enters the 64-bit era (but 32-bit is still the default option) | Tux Machines [04:48] TR News Feeding clickbait with more #clickbait https://linux.slashdot.org/story/22/02/05/231206/no-linus-torvalds-is-not-bitcoin-creator-satoshi-nakamoto #torvalds #linux #kernel #crackpots [04:48] Alternative link Cloudflare: slashdot.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linux.slashdot.org/story/22/02/05/231206/no-linus-torvalds-is-not-bitcoin-creator-satoshi-nakamoto [04:48] TR Bot No, Linus Torvalds is not Bitcoin Creator Satoshi Nakamoto - Slashdot [04:49] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:49] TR News More #surveillance from #modi ... use cash instead in #india https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/02/india_budget_2022/ #warOnCash [04:49] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/02/india_budget_2022/ [04:49] TR Bot India to impose 30% tax on crypto incomes and digital rupee The Register [04:50] schestowitz https://www.onmsft.com/news/oracle-linux-comes-to-the-microsoft-store [04:50] Alternative link Cloudflare: onmsft.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.onmsft.com/news/oracle-linux-comes-to-the-microsoft-store [04:50] TR Bot Oracle Linux comes to the Microsoft Store [04:50] schestowitz microsoft boosters [04:50] schestowitz joined by photonix [04:50] schestowitz many microsoft sites covered irt [04:50] schestowitz micro larabel must notstay "behind" [04:50] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techrights [04:50] schestowitz even before the amd bribe I had already grown concerned about what he covered and how he covered it [04:50] schestowitz telling me that it was for "entertainment" [04:51] TR News Opinion: UCLA must investigate holdings for ties to Uyghur genocide - Daily Bruin https://dailybruin.com/2022/01/30/opinion-ucla-must-investigate-holdings-for-ties-to-uyghur-genocide #dailybruin on how USA uses Muslims as political weapons... but only in "Enemy" nations... 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[04:55] TR News "Apache Iceberg emerged as an open source project in 2018 to address longstanding concerns in Apache Hive tables surrounding the correctness and consistency of the data" https://www.datanami.com/2022/02/01/snowflake-aws-warm-up-to-apache-iceberg/ [04:55] Alternative link Cloudflare: datanami.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.datanami.com/2022/02/01/snowflake-aws-warm-up-to-apache-iceberg/ [04:55] TR Bot Snowflake, AWS Warm Up to Apache Iceberg [04:55] TR News #SnapFuzz : New #fuzzing tool speeds up testing of network applications | The Daily Swig https://portswigger.net/daily-swig/snapfuzz-new-fuzzing-tool-speeds-up-testing-of-network-applications #portswigger | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/06/#latest [04:55] TR Bot SnapFuzz: New fuzzing tool speeds up testing of network applications | The Daily Swig [04:56] TR Bot Social Control Media Posts [04:57] TR News US right to repair bills aim to make ownership great again http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161139#comment-32746 [04:57] TR Bot Security and Right to Repair | Tux Machines [04:58] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 15.61 k/sec., IPFS upstream 47.91 average k/sec., average swarm size 259.01 [04:59] *lukaso666 (~lukaso666@pfn6eayhccuqq.irc) has joined #techrights [04:59] TR News Thousands of games would work OK, but just haven't been officially verified yet https://pocketnow.com/steam-deck-has-more-100-verified-playable-games #gnu #linux #archlinux [04:59] Alternative link Cloudflare: pocketnow.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pocketnow.com/steam-deck-has-more-100-verified-playable-games [04:59] TR Bot Deck already has more than 100 verified and playable games - Pocketnow ● Feb 06 [05:00] TR News Waste of money. Welcome to #wallstreet Times, aka #nytimes https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/01/wordle_nyt_buyout/ [05:00] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/01/wordle_nyt_buyout/ [05:00] TR Bot New York Times acquires hit game Wordle for seven-figure sum The Register [05:01] schestowitz [01:14] https://citizen.typepad.com/eyesontrade/2021/11/apple-and-google-want-us-trade-officials-to-attack-anti-monopoly-law.html [05:01] Alternative link Cloudflare: typepad.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://citizen.typepad.com/eyesontrade/2021/11/apple-and-google-want-us-trade-officials-to-attack-anti-monopoly-law.html [05:01] TR Bot Eyes on Trade: Apple and Google Want U.S. Trade Officials to Attack Anti-Monopoly Law [05:01] schestowitz AdmFubar: microsoft lobbying at work [05:03] TR News "The #internet has always financialized our lives. #Web3 just makes that explicit." https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2022/02/future-internet-blockchain-investment-banking/621480/ [05:03] Alternative link Cloudflare: theatlantic.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2022/02/future-internet-blockchain-investment-banking/621480/ [05:03] TR Bot The Sick, Refreshing Honesty of Web3 - The Atlantic [05:04] TR News Aral Balkan: #Web3 is Bullshit Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/01/29/web3-is-bullshit/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/01/29/web3-is-bullshit/ [05:04] TR Bot Aral Balkan: Web3 is Bullshit | Techrights [05:04] TR News The #Apache #Log4j team talks about the #Log4Shell patching process - The Record by Recorded Future https://therecord.media/the-apache-log4j-team-talks-about-the-log4shell-patching-process/ [05:04] Alternative link Cloudflare: therecord.media | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://therecord.media/the-apache-log4j-team-talks-about-the-log4shell-patching-process/ [05:04] TR Bot The Apache Log4j team talks about the Log4Shell patching process - The Record by Recorded Future [05:06] TR News "Gasdermins, a family of five pore-forming proteins (GSDMAGSDME) in humans expressed predominantly in the skin, mucosa and immune sentinel cells, are key executioners of inflammatory cell death (pyroptosis), which recruits immune cells to infection sites and promotes protective immunity." https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-04384-4#ref-CR1 [05:06] Alternative link Cloudflare: nature.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-04384-4#ref-CR1 [05:06] TR Bot pyrogenic exotoxin B cleaves GSDMA and triggers pyroptosis | Nature [05:07] TR News These run #linux https://www.gsmarena.com/idc_tablet_and_chromebook_shipments_grew_in_2021_but_things_are_slowing_down-news-52948.php #idc sponsored by #microsoft to lie: http://techrights.org/wiki/IDC [05:07] Alternative link Cloudflare: gsmarena.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gsmarena.com/idc_tablet_and_chromebook_shipments_grew_in_2021_but_things_are_slowing_down-news-52948.php [05:07] TR Bot tablet and Chromebook shipments grew in 2021, but things are slowing down - GSMArena.com news [05:07] TR Bot IDC - Techrights [05:07] TR News Latest #plutophilia from Forbes https://www.forbesindia.com/article/leadership/he-is-the-master-of-buyouts-can-robin-raina-keep-up-his-aggressive-play/73357/1 [05:07] Alternative link Cloudflare: forbesindia.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.forbesindia.com/article/leadership/he-is-the-master-of-buyouts-can-robin-raina-keep-up-his-aggressive-play/73357/1 [05:07] TR Bot Forbes India - Robin Raina Of Ebix [05:08] kingoffrance eh, i am actually not worried about "EARN IT" [05:08] kingoffrance if content must be scanned, then it just boils down to: can users upload encrypted content, yes or no? [05:08] TR News "The story of @BrendanEich is in many ways the story of the evolution of the internet and the technologies we use to access it. It is also a story of battles won, lost and soon to play out." https://www.techradar.com/news/the-story-of-the-browser-wars-told-from-the-frontlines [05:08] TR Bot inside story of the browser wars, told by a veteran | TechRadar [05:09] kingoffrance i mean, thats all comes down to. is crypto allowed or not [05:09] kingoffrance all the weasel words are just to avoid the inevitable [05:09] TR News Tepid pool of #buzzwords and faked hype https://www.europeanpharmaceuticalreview.com/article/168300/the-microbiome-unlocking-the-fourth-industrial-bio-revolution/ [05:09] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.europeanpharmaceuticalreview.com/article/168300/the-microbiome-unlocking-the-fourth-industrial-bio-revolution/ ) [05:09] Alternative link Cloudflare: europeanpharmaceuticalreview.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.europeanpharmaceuticalreview.com/article/168300/the-microbiome-unlocking-the-fourth-industrial-bio-revolution/ [05:09] kingoffrance that they dont believe in privacy or security [05:10] kingoffrance if all the major social sites etc. dont want encrypted content, it will just move elsewhere. i dont see any difference here [05:10] TR News Say what you will about DRM, but this is VERY damaging to #microsoft #windows ... https://www.gsmarena.com/valve_has_verified_over_100_games_for_the_steam_deck-news-52968.php [05:10] Alternative link Cloudflare: gsmarena.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gsmarena.com/valve_has_verified_over_100_games_for_the_steam_deck-news-52968.php [05:10] TR Bot has over 100 playable games for the Steam Deck - GSMArena.com news [05:11] kingoffrance it will just boil down to: will your isp let you encrypt data, or must they be able to see anything you do? [05:11] TR News Almost legitimising scams by giving them attention https://www.techtarget.com/searchstorage/feature/Web3-use-case-for-storage-is-flimsy-for-now [05:11] Alternative link Cloudflare: techtarget.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techtarget.com/searchstorage/feature/Web3-use-case-for-storage-is-flimsy-for-now [05:11] TR Bot Web3 use cases for storage flimsy for now [05:11] TR News #Clickbait in Forbes https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2022/02/02/valve-just-made-steam-decks-secret-weapon-even-better/ [05:11] Alternative link Cloudflare: forbes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2022/02/02/valve-just-made-steam-decks-secret-weapon-even-better/ [05:11] TR Bot Valve Just Made Steam Decks Secret Weapon Even Better [05:14] *mib_y70x7q (~a7583d82@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [05:14] TR News #nsogroup #israel #espionage #bribery #corruption https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/02/whistleblower_nso_group/ [05:14] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/02/whistleblower_nso_group/ [05:14] TR Bot Whistleblower claims NSO offered 'cash' for SS7 help The Register [05:16] TR News #japan and #copyrights https://dotesports.com/pokemon/news/the-pokemon-company-launches-dp-sound-library-opens-use-of-pokemon-diamond-and-pearl-soundtrack #jp #pokemon [05:16] Alternative link Cloudflare: dotesports.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://dotesports.com/pokemon/news/the-pokemon-company-launches-dp-sound-library-opens-use-of-pokemon-diamond-and-pearl-soundtrack [05:16] TR Bot The Pokmon Company launches DP Sound Library, opens use of Pokmon Diamond and Pearl soundtrack - Dot Esports [05:16] kingoffrance i dont see how "trafficking" "drugs" "terrorists" or any other boogeyman changes anything. the fundamentals is either you are allowed encryption/privacy or not. [05:17] kingoffrance there are infinite excuses why you should not be allowed, i dont see anything new with "EARN IT" [05:17] TR News WEF (oligarchy) peddling mass #surveillance and profiling, using buzzwords and hype https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2022/02/supercomputers-ai-and-the-metaverse-here-s-what-you-need-to-know/ [05:17] Alternative link Cloudflare: weforum.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2022/02/supercomputers-ai-and-the-metaverse-here-s-what-you-need-to-know/ [05:17] TR Bot What you should know about the metaverse, AI and supercomputers | World Economic Forum [05:18] kingoffrance people should, of course, demand all gov and military traffic be public so they can review it, otherwise i can only assume they must be trafficking children [05:18] kingoffrance its difficult to fathom the ridiculous of "EARN IT" [05:18] TR News As if the #energy bill hikes weren't enough... https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/01/nao_nuclear_decommissioning/ [05:18] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/01/nao_nuclear_decommissioning/ [05:18] TR Bot National Audit Office warns of nuclear decommissioning costs The Register [05:19] *mib_iyhr0e (~a7583d82@kjvq8jm9s83qu.irc) has joined #techrights [05:19] kingoffrance guilty until you prove you have "EARNED IT" [05:19] TR News Maybe house all the homeless instead? https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/02/uk_mod_space/ [05:19] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/02/uk_mod_space/ [05:19] TR Bot UK government to splash another 1.4bn on Defence Space The Register [05:20] *mib_y70x7q has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [05:20] TR News #Android Debloater gets updated with new bloatware list https://www.xda-developers.com/universal-android-debloater-gui-update-new-bloatware-list/ Android ITSELF became bloat! [05:20] Alternative link Cloudflare: xda-developers.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.xda-developers.com/universal-android-debloater-gui-update-new-bloatware-list/ [05:20] TR Bot Universal Android Debloater gets updated with new bloatware list [05:21] TR News "TriggerMesh is a sponsor of The New Stack." Read as: this is a paid-for puff piece disguised as "journalism"... https://thenewstack.io/triggermesh-case-study-in-open-sourcing-enterprise-software/ [05:21] Alternative link Cloudflare: thenewstack.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://thenewstack.io/triggermesh-case-study-in-open-sourcing-enterprise-software/ [05:21] TR Bot TriggerMesh, Case Study in Open Sourcing Enterprise Software The New Stack [05:22] *mib_iyhr0e has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [05:22] TR News "Feelings of isolation and loneliness are growing as employees continue to work from home" https://searchhrsoftware.techtarget.com/feature/Top-strategies-and-tools-to-prevent-employee-isolation [05:22] Alternative link Cloudflare: techtarget.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://searchhrsoftware.techtarget.com/feature/Top-strategies-and-tools-to-prevent-employee-isolation [05:22] TR Bot Top strategies and tools to prevent employee isolation [05:23] TR News But #gdpr continues to be unenforced or barely enforced https://www.theregister.com/2022/01/31/brexit_freedom_bill/ see e.g. http://techrights.org/2021/03/22/epoleaks-report-march-2021-finale/ [05:23] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/01/31/brexit_freedom_bill/ [05:23] TR Bot Brexit Freedom Bill re-promises GDPR reform The Register [05:23] TR Bot EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law Summing Up: EPO Administrative Council Still Asleep at the Wheel | Techrights [05:24] TR News #U2 Share Acoustic 'Sunday Bloody Sunday' With New Lyrics https://ultimateclassicrock.com/u2-sunday-bloody-sunday-acoustic/ #ultimateclassicrock [05:24] TR Bot U2 Share Acoustic 'Sunday Bloody Sunday' With New Lyrics [05:24] TR News "Even before the pandemic uprooted everything in 2020, more and more people had been ditching the 9-5 to work remotely and travel the world. But in 2020, only 5% of remote jobs could be done from anywhere. Fast forward to 2022 and its a whole new world, where remote working is not only a dream, its a reality." https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurabegleybloom/2022/01/31/work-from-home-or-anywhere-top-30-companies-for-remote-jobs-in [05:24] Alternative link Cloudflare: forbes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurabegleybloom/2022/01/31/work-from-home-or-anywhere-top-30-companies-for-remote-jobs-in [05:24] TR Bot ( status 404 @ https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurabegleybloom/2022/01/31/work-from-home-or-anywhere-top-30-companies-for-remote-jobs-in/ ) [05:37] kingoffrance i guess earn it seems like a good cop, bad cop to me lol. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065528/quotes/?ref_=tt_trv_qu [first lines] Lt. Col. Korn, XO: [speaking to Yossarian] All you have to do is be our pal. Colonel Cathcart: Say nice things about us. Lt. Col. Korn, XO: Tell the folks at home what a good job we're doing. Take our offer Yossarian. Colonel Cathcart: Either that or a court-martial for desertion. [05:37] TR Bot (1970) - Quotes - IMDb [05:37] kingoffrance dont allow any encrypted content, help us fight the good fight. either that, or your a child trafficker [05:37] kingoffrance *you're [05:45] TR News Helping to prove that #socialcontrolmedia like #twitter is BS https://hackaday.com/2022/02/05/gaming-twitters-trending-algorithm-to-make-a-point/ see http://techrights.org/?p=154316&preview=true [05:45] TR Bot Twitters Trending Algorithm To Make A Point | Hackaday [05:45] TR Bot Time for a Twitter Boycott? | Techrights [05:46] TR News HDD Centrifuge Puts #COVID19 Testing Lab In A Backpack | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2022/02/05/hdd-centrifuge-puts-covid-19-testing-lab-in-a-backpack/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/06/#latest [05:46] TR Bot Centrifuge Puts COVID-19 Testing Lab In A Backpack | Hackaday [05:46] TR Bot Social Control Media Posts [05:48] TR News Whats New in #elementaryOS 6.1 and Should You Switch? Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161145 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [05:48] TR Bot Whats New in elementary OS 6.1 and Should You Switch? | Tux Machines [05:48] TR News #Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161146 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [05:48] TR Bot Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [05:48] TR News #Inkscape 1.1.2, 1.2 alpha released, About Screen Contest and Other Exciting News! Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161147 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [05:48] TR Bot Inkscape 1.1.2, 1.2 alpha released, About Screen Contest and Other Exciting News! | Tux Machines [05:49] TR News #Games : #Valve and Wordle Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161148 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [05:49] TR Bot Games: Valve and Wordle | Tux Machines [05:49] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161149 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [05:49] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [05:49] TR News #GuileSDL 0.6.0 available Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161150 #GNU #guile #programming #TuxMachines [05:49] TR Bot GNU Guile-SDL 0.6.0 available | Tux Machines [05:52] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 15.76 k/sec., IPFS upstream 44.41 average k/sec., average swarm size 259.07 ● Feb 06 [06:19] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [06:48] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@asrpphbur8fa4.irc) has joined #techrights [06:49] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 18.50 k/sec., IPFS upstream 41.86 average k/sec., average swarm size 259.13 ● Feb 06 [07:10] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [07:10] *psydroid4 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techrights [07:18] *oarion7 has quit (Quit: Running IRC on a charmed medieval abacus.) 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Mastodon - NZOSS [10:58] TR News #EARNIT https://sunbeam.city/@derek/107737050261173740 [10:58] TR Bot Derek Caelin: "Americans, write your senators and tell them to p" - Sunbeam City ● Feb 06 [11:03] TR News An Implementation of a Gemini-to-HTTP/S Proxy/Gateway in #Perl Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/06/an-implementation-of-a-gemini-to-https-proxygateway-in-perl/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/06/an-implementation-of-a-gemini-to-https-proxygateway-in-perl/ [11:03] TR Bot An Implementation of a Gemini-to-HTTP/S Proxy/Gateway in Perl | Techrights [11:11] TR News "I think this weekend, I'm going to personally file an anti-trust thing against Microsoft's acquisition of Activision/Blizzard. i've wanted to build games my entire life, but on my terms and not Microsoft's." https://smallcamp.art/@tychi/107741672022029627 [11:11] TR Bot Ephemeral: "I think this weekend, I'm going to personally fil" - SmallCamp [11:11] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@bs7zfy7xzt3k4.irc) has joined #techrights [11:12] TR News "It's a powerful curative to the racist lie - peddled by Big Pharma and its apologists like Howard Dean - that brown people in poor countries are too primitive to make vaccines" https://mamot.fr/@pluralistic/107741040645363792 #billgates #racism https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/bill-gates-investments-covid/ [11:12] Alternative link Cloudflare: thenation.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/bill-gates-investments-covid/ [11:12] TR Bot Cory Doctorow's linkblog: "It's a powerful curative to the racist lie - pedd" - La Quadrature du Net - Mastodon - Media Fdr [11:12] TR Bot While the Poor Get Sick, Bill Gates Just Gets Richer | The Nation [11:12] TR News "As the #Beijing2022 Winter Olympics open today amid huge criticism of human rights abuses in #China , #Paris2024 is also preparing #biometricmasssurveillance " https://chaos.social/@echo_pbreyer/107739915425354215 [11:12] TR Bot Breyer: " As the #Beijing2022 Winter Olympics open today" - chaos.social [11:14] TR News USA 2022: CHINA IS BAD!!! It's spying on athletes!!!! USA 2002: https://olympics.nbcsports.com/2017/06/03/salt-lake-city-olympics-nsa-surveillance-spy/ #nsa #china #hypocrisy #olympics #surveillance [11:14] Alternative link Cloudflare: nbcsports.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://olympics.nbcsports.com/2017/06/03/salt-lake-city-olympics-nsa-surveillance-spy/ [11:14] TR Bot Ex-spy says NSA did mass surveillance during Salt Lake City Olympics - OlympicTalk | NBC Sports [11:16] TR News USA: #china evil for copying us 20 years later... https://olympics.nbcsports.com/2017/06/03/salt-lake-city-olympics-nsa-surveillance-spy/ [11:16] Alternative link Cloudflare: nbcsports.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://olympics.nbcsports.com/2017/06/03/salt-lake-city-olympics-nsa-surveillance-spy/ [11:17] TR News "The release was fun, big thanks to everyone who stayed up late and put this release together; it's always a lot of work..." https://mastodon.social/@doctormo/107748110211580156 [11:17] TR Bot Martin Owens: "The release was fun, big thanks to everyone who s" - Mastodon [11:18] TR News "Now we are off to finish the DeVuan base for that non #systemd niche " https://mastodon.technology/@peppermintos/107745075732164397 #DeVuan #gnu #linux #withoutsystemd [11:18] TR Bot PeppermintOS Team: "Now we are off to finish the DeVuan base for that" - Mastodon for Tech Folks [11:18] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [11:18] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [11:19] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [11:19] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [11:19] TR News Sunday Popcorn Space Bear https://assets.amuniversal.com/d9ecfe004bd4013a8f50005056a9545d [11:22] schestowitz-TR it just occurred to me, as I used to watch nsa news very closely even years before snowden leaks and I very well remembered these rteports, which I doubt MSM will pay attention to [11:22] schestowitz-TR you might say that years or decades of gitmo and homeless people left to [11:22] schestowitz-TR rot etc are now weakening any efforts to dicredit xi and putin [11:25] Techrights-sec ack [11:25] Techrights-sec Also as of 20 years ago, empathy had diminished massively compated to the early 1 [11:25] Techrights-sec 990s. I would posit that the general empath levels have diminished further. [11:26] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:28] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [11:41] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techrights [11:49] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 17.10 k/sec., IPFS upstream 46.31 average k/sec., average swarm size 259.38 [11:52] TR News Hard to find/locate availability of #raspi 400 in the #uk ... the hardware shortages are not faked. A lot of so-called 'cars' waste the resources http://techrights.org/2022/01/02/no-control-over-cars/ [11:52] TR Bot Index: Loss of Control Over Cars | Techrights [11:54] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:58] DaemonFC California's department of health released a study that showed that people who wear "a mask" were about 60% less likely to have tested positive for COVID in the past year as people who never wear one. [11:59] DaemonFC And they said that people who reported that they use a N95 or KN95 respirator were 83% less likely to report having tested positive within the last year. ● Feb 06 [12:00] DaemonFC When you break it down by mask type, cloth masks are the least effective, although still worth using if that's all you can afford or get access to. Surgical masks and N95s are much better. [12:00] DaemonFC Well, respirators being highly effective is not surprising. [12:00] DaemonFC They cost about a buck each now and you just swap them for a new one every week or two. [12:00] TR News "In the video below the break, [Kelly] shows us a series of hacks you can use while camping in the woods for a night to keep you warm, dry, and well fed!" https://hackaday.com/2022/02/05/camping-for-25-thrift-store-hacks-to-keep-cozy/ [12:00] TR Bot For $25: Thrift Store Hacks To Keep Cozy | Hackaday [12:01] DaemonFC It's much better than a vaccine that makes you sick and wears off quickly. [12:01] DaemonFC As vaccines go, COVID's is extremely disappointing. [12:02] DaemonFC The Meningitis vaccines only hold up for about 6 years or so, but even then it's enough to get people out of a high risk period of life, such as living in a college dorm or being young and having multiple sex partners, or doing a couple of stints in the military. [12:03] DaemonFC You can get a booster if you need to. [12:03] TR News On this episode of This Week in Linux, #Slackware 15.0, Tiny Core Linux 13.0, Trisquel 10.0, Peppermint OS, 64-bit #RaspberryPi OS, System76: Kudu Laptop & Scheduler, #LibreOffice 7.3, KDE Falkon 3.2, GStreamer 1.20" https://tuxdigital.com/2022/02/this-week-in-linux-184/ #gnu #linux [12:03] TR Bot Slackware 15, ProtonDB, Peppermint OS, Raspberry Pi, Tiny Core, Trisquel | This Week in Linux - TuxDigital [12:03] DaemonFC COVID, though? 6 months and it doesn't protect you much at all? :/ [12:03] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@asrpphbur8fa4.irc) has joined #techrights [12:03] DaemonFC But they still talk of fourth and fifth doses and it's not even a year old yet. [12:04] DaemonFC They've turned off most of the public drinking fountains, except for the bottle filler, which nobody puts their mouth up against and has saliva dripping all over. [12:05] DaemonFC They're wondering where the flu and Meningitis went off to... [12:05] DaemonFC :) [12:06] DaemonFC The FDA is funny. [12:07] DaemonFC Like, they've recalled bagged salads about a million times in the last year or so. [12:07] DaemonFC Hepatitis, Listeria, E. Coli.... [12:07] DaemonFC There's no label on the salads saying "Hey, don't eat this. You'll be shitting your guts out all the way to the ER!". [12:08] DaemonFC But they require a warning on unpasteurized orange juice and kombucha. [12:08] DaemonFC Which I drink all the time and I've never gotten sick from. [12:09] DaemonFC The pasteurization process on orange juice has about one benefit. The companies that make it can put it on the shelf for months and months as long as you don't open it. [12:10] DaemonFC The downside is that the heat totally ruins the flavor and nutritional value, and then they fortify it with vitamins and "flavor packages" and it's basically sugar water that escaped the lab at that point. [12:10] DaemonFC But they put millions in advertising showing a straw in an orange so people associate it with natural and healthy and wholesome. [12:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techrights [12:10] *guysoft42 (~guysoft@2a0d:6fc1:2:1f00::bee) has joined #techrights [12:11] DaemonFC It's just unbelievable how many perfectly good oranges get grown and ruined every year making corporate orange juice brands when yo ucan go down to the store and get juice they bottled right there by tossing oranges into a hopper and then keeping it cold with a use by label on it. [12:12] DaemonFC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuYPdTvqitg [12:12] TR Bot Ruins Everything - Why Orange Juice Is Totally Unnatural - YouTube [12:13] TR News #AbsoluteLinux 15.0 released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161156 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:13] TR Bot Absolute-15.0 released | Tux Machines [12:14] TR News Oh, Michael. You sold us out so badly. #phoronix [12:15] DaemonFC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvlA9UxGvSg [12:15] TR Bot Mattress Industry is One Big Rip-Off | Adam Ruins Everything - YouTube [12:17] TR News #OpenBikeSensor "open-source hardware and community science project designed to gather exactly this information." https://hackaday.com/2022/02/05/openbikesensor-measures-close-calls/ #hacking #modding #sharing [12:17] TR Bot Measures Close Calls | Hackaday [12:19] TR News Audiocasts/Shows: Full Circle Weekly News, GNU World Order, and This Week in Linux (TWIL) Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161157 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:19] TR Bot Audiocasts/Shows: Full Circle Weekly News, GNU World Order, and This Week in Linux (TWIL) | Tux Machines [12:23] TR News Stop the Saber-Rattling! #GreenParty US Call for Immediate Diplomacy to Resolve #Ukraine Crisis https://howiehawkins.us/ukraine-saber-rattling/ [12:23] Alternative link Cloudflare: howiehawkins.us | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://howiehawkins.us/ukraine-saber-rattling/ [12:23] TR Bot RELEASE: Strelease-stop-the-saber-rattling-greens-call-for-immediate-diplomacy-to-resolve-ukraine-crisisop the Saber-Rattling! Greens Call for Immediate Diplomacy to Resolve Ukraine Crisis | Howie Hawkins for our Future [12:24] TR News #SoftwarePatents https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/2/4/12000-for-atlantic-ip-services-sub-speir-technologies-prior-art #ptab #fakepatents #surveillance #swpats [12:24] Alternative link Cloudflare: unifiedpatents.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/2/4/12000-for-atlantic-ip-services-sub-speir-technologies-prior-art [12:24] TR Bot $12,000 for Atlantic IP Services sub, Speir Technologies, prior art Unified Patents [12:25] TR News #IBM #PalmTop Running Modern (Modified) Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161158 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:25] TR Bot IBM PalmTop Running Modern (Modified) Linux | Tux Machines [12:26] TR News #ILOAT : Former #EPO president #Battistelli violated staffs right of free association http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/02/03/iloat-former-epo-president-battistelli-violated-staffs-right-of-free-association/ see the pattern: http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/ilo-review-of-antisocial-nondemocracy/ [12:26] TR Bot ILOAT: Former EPO president Battistelli violated staff's right of free association - Kluwer Patent Blog [12:26] TR Bot ILO Tribunal Once Again Rules That the European Patent Office (EPO) Violates Fundamental Rights | Techrights [12:32] TR News #capitalism and plutocrats: we need as much "cap" (people) as possible to increase capital, sales, labour force. Also, plutocrats: we need to keep these "lice" under control. They're getting out of line. #socialcontrol #socialcontrolmedia #manipulation #greed [12:32] *bnchs (~bnchs@szard4ghw2buu.irc) has joined #techrights [12:34] TR News Opinion: If You Advocate Population Control and You Are Yourself Doubling in One Single Generation, Then You Might be Hypocritical Techrights http://techrights.org/2020/01/26/advocates-of-population-control/ #Techrights #overpopulation #inequality #hypocrisy | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2020/01/26/advocates-of-population-control/ [12:34] TR Bot Opinion: If You Advocate Population Control and You Are Yourself Doubling in One Single Generation, Then You Might be Hypocritical | Techrights [12:35] *bnchs has quit (connection closed) [12:36] TR News #narcotics are not only "OK" but also MONOPOLISED when the rich and powerful corporations can get #patents and #trademarks on them (for market EXCLUSIVITY) http://thettablog.blogspot.com/2022/01/ttab-affirms-unlawful-use-refusal-of.html [12:36] TR Bot The TTABlog: TTAB Affirms "Unlawful Use" Refusal of HARBOR HEMP COMPANY for Supplements "Containing Legally Produced Industrial Hemp Extract" [12:38] TR News #watchtroll editor #EileenMcDermot would not point out to you that #Tillis is effectively a corporate mole in "politician" clothing, meeting and coordinating in secret meetings these bills that KILL people, for profit ("Tillis Wants More Info on I-MAK and Other Data Driving Anti-Patent Narratives Around Drug Pricing") [12:38] DaemonFC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4pV8cKXKnU [12:38] TR Bot Ruins Everything - The Best Ruins (Mashup) | truTV - YouTube [12:38] DaemonFC Adam ruins the music industry in the third segment. [12:38] DaemonFC Talking about how the only way music artists make money anymore is endorsement deals. But even those almost only go to established ones even if they hardly make any music anymore. [12:38] DaemonFC Elton John is on his farewell tour and can barely even sing, but Walmart recently entered a deal with him to sell a line of expensive eyeglasses that say Elton John on them. [12:40] TR News And yet another large so-called 'law' firm is promoting a crime, based on #fakenews that it helped promote with other such firms https://www.cms-lawnow.com/ealerts/2022/02/unified-patent-court-starts-final-preparations?cc_lang=en see http://techrights.org/2021/12/19/benjamin-henrion-cjeu/ #unitarypatent #unifiedpatentcourt [12:40] TR Bot Unified Patent Court starts final preparations [12:40] TR Bot Unified Patent Court is a Fake Common Court and Violates CJEUs Jurisprudence of the Last 10 Years, Will Explode at launch, Says Professor Jaeger | Techrights [12:42] TR News Convicted corrupt firm #MarksClerk , which moreover enabled #EPO #crime , is pushing the fallacy that #UPC is here; they once again promote criminal activity https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1155458/qa-unitary-patent-and-unitary-patent-court see https://techrights.org/2019/01/22/buzzwords-for-junk-patents/ #unitarypatent #unifiedpatentcourt [12:42] TR Bot Q&A: Unitary Patent And Unitary Patent Court - Intellectual Property - European Union [12:42] TR Bot Software Patents Are a Dying Breed, So Marks & Clerk and Other Legal Monoliths Promote the EPOs Buzzwords (Loopholes) | Techrights [12:43] TR News More #fakenews , as usual, from people with a clear conflict of interest https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/the-unitary-patent-and-the-unified-7192991/ see http://techrights.org/2021/12/19/benjamin-henrion-cjeu/ #unitarypatent #unifiedpatentcourt [12:43] TR Bot Unitary Patent and the Unified Patent Court Are Expected to Go Live in Less than a Year | Orrick, Herrington & Sutcliffe LLP - JDSupra [12:44] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:45] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techrights [12:46] TR News #EPO is (once again) intentionally breaking the law and #HerbertSmithFreehills , profiteers of #patenttrolls , cheer for the criminals https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1157036/epo-issues-guidance-on-achieving-unitary-patent-status-from-day-1-of-the-upcup-system-for-european-patent-applications-coming-up-to-grant see http://techrights.org/2021/12/19/benjamin-henrion-cjeu/ #unitarypatent #unifiedpatentcourt [12:46] TR Bot EPO Issues Guidance On Achieving Unitary Patent Status From Day 1 Of The UPC/UP System For European Patent Applications Coming Up To Grant - Intellectual Property - European Union [12:47] *guysoft42 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [12:48] TR News #BugnionSpA , with an utter conflict of interest, also maliciously spreads false "news" in an effort to enforce an illegal and unconstitutional agenda https://www.bugnion.eu/en/unitary-patent-court-where-we-are-and-where-were-going/ see http://techrights.org/2021/08/19/captured-media-telling-lies/ #unitarypatent #unifiedpatentcourt [12:48] Alternative link Cloudflare: bugnion.eu | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bugnion.eu/en/unitary-patent-court-where-we-are-and-where-were-going/ [12:48] TR Bot UNITARY PATENT COURT: WHERE WE ARE AND WHERE WERE GOING | Bugnion [12:48] TR Bot Naming and Shaming Captured Publications That Knowingly and Intentionally Published Fake News About the EUs Unified Patent Court So Far This Week | Techrights [12:50] TR News #Keltie , which has long promoted illegal agenda (breaking of #the law does not bother so-called 'law' firms), is once again pushing #fakenews and utterly illegal agenda https://www.mondaq.com/germany/patent/1157504/upc--progress-towards-the-start-of-the-unitary-patent-system see http://techrights.org/2017/10/27/keltie-llp-swpats/ #unitarypatent #unifiedpatentcourt [12:50] TR Bot UPC - Progress Towards The Start Of The Unitary Patent System - Intellectual Property - Germany [12:50] TR Bot Keltie LLP Advertises Dodging Patent Rules (Software Patents) and Dodging Tax | Techrights [12:52] TR News For the second time in one week this so-called 'law' firm produced misleading headlines, in order to promote this idea that an illegal system is already here and in force https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/the-upc-opt-out-for-european-patents-2069342/ see http://techrights.org/2021/12/19/benjamin-henrion-cjeu/ #unitarypatent #unifiedpatentcourt [12:52] TR Bot UPC Opt-out for European Patents Should I Stay or Should I Go? | Orrick, Herrington & Sutcliffe LLP - JDSupra [12:53] *guysoft42 (~guysoft@2a0d:6fc1:2:1f00:dddc:67c4:d1c0:5fe4) has joined #techrights [12:55] TR News Orrick, Herrington & Sutcliffe LLP cannot help itself; it knowingly misleads clients and lobbies for illegal agenda using #fakenews strategies https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/the-fundamentals-of-the-unified-patent-1035971/ see http://techrights.org/2021/08/31/unified-patent-court-faking-it/ #unitarypatent #unifiedpatentcourt [12:55] TR Bot Fundamentals of the Unified Patent Court System and the New Unitary Patent | Orrick, Herrington & Sutcliffe LLP - JDSupra [12:55] TR Bot Team UPC Has Spread a Dozen or So Fake News Headlines With Patently False Claims, Which Its Unable and Unwilling to Justify | Techrights [12:56] *GuySoft (~guysoft@2a0d:6fc1:2:1f00::bee) has joined #techrights [12:56] *guysoft42 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [12:57] TR News C. Graham Gerst, writing for #patent extremists in #watchtrolls , is one again attacking #soctus /Alice/ #Section101 to shore up #swpats which nobody wants except litigation firms. I'll omit the link. Watchtroll: http://techrights.org/wiki/Watchtroll [12:57] TR Bot Watchtroll - Techrights [12:59] TR News Lawyers: "how much can you afford?" "What's your budget?" Interpret as: how much money can I steal from you while claiming to "represent" you in a dodgy system we all lobbied for, while ensuring #priceFixing for interacting with the system. ● Feb 06 [13:02] DaemonFC it just occurred to me, as I used to watch nsa news very closely even years before snowden leaks and I very well remembered these rteports, which I doubt MSM will pay attention to [13:02] TR News #EPO knowingly breaking the #law yet again; and since nobody ever holds the EPO accountable for its many crimes even the so-called law firms are boosting these illegal acts for personal (financial) gain) https://jakemp.com/en/news/epo-to-allow-applicants-to-file-early-requests-to-obtain-a-unitary-patent see http://techrights.org/2022/01/30/shuffling-chairs-on-the-epo-titanic/ [13:02] TR Bot EPO to Allow Applicants to File Early Requests to Obtain a Unitary Patent - J A Kemp [13:02] TR Bot Shuffling the EPO Deck to Cover Up Crimes, EPC Violations, Attacks on Judges Etc. While Promoting Illegal and Unconstitutional UPC | Techrights [13:02] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:03] DaemonFC MSM basically boils down to paid shit, "diversity and inclusion" (includes hiding the race of the criminals from the story and anti-white hatred in ads.....nobody white buys a car, insurance, a home, opens a credit card account, or goes on vacation since 2020 according to commercials), and blaming "Millennials" for not falling for the same cons their parents did and losing all of their money to them. [13:04] TR News #watchtroll now megaphoning a fellow extremist, #PhRMA (basically insisting we should kill millions of people to secure the profits of pharmaceutical giants). See who these people are and what they stand for http://techrights.org/2017/02/07/aipla-phrma-and-aba-lobby-section-101/ http://techrights.org/2018/03/20/attempts-to-thwart-ptab/ [13:04] TR Bot The Debate About Software Patents Grew Increasingly Dishonest, Front Groups AIPLA, PhRMA and ABA Try to Restore Them | Techrights [13:04] TR Bot BIO, MDMA and PhRMA Are Pushing the PTAB-Hostile STRONGER Patents Act While IAM and Patently-O Continue to Bash PTAB | Techrights [13:05] TR News And in "English #FRAND Developments to Watch Out for in 2022" #watchtroll now pushing the "FRAND" (misnomer) agenda. See http://techrights.org/2018/01/01/tcl-v-ericsson/ http://techrights.org/2018/02/20/policy-influenced-by-lobbyists/ [13:05] TR Bot FRAND is Unfair, Unreasonable and Discriminatory; Ericsson is Still a FRAND Troll | Techrights [13:05] TR Bot Japan Demonstrates Sanity on SEP Policy While US Patent Policy is Influenced by Lobbyists | Techrights [13:06] schestowitz https://www.ipwatchdog.com/2022/02/01/cafc-vacates-ptab-ruling-apple-citing-board-error-applicant-admitted-prior-art/id=145119/ [13:06] schestowitz "The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit (CAFC) today vacated and remanded a decision of the Patent Trial and Appeal Board (PTAB) on two related inter partes reviews (IPRs) brought by Apple against Qualcomm, explaining that the Boards determination that prior art consisting of patents or printed publications includes applicant admitted prior art (AAPA) was incorrect. The CAFC nonetheless remanded the case for the PTAB" [13:06] TR Bot CAFC Vacates PTAB Ruling for Apple Over Applicant Admitted Prior Art [13:07] schestowitz DaemonFC: wrong channel [13:07] schestowitz I mean, in the context of NSA spying [13:07] schestowitz I think we're OK in this channel [13:07] schestowitz but let's leave those other subjects to the other "main" 4 channels [13:08] DaemonFC I try to avoid brands that advertise a lot. [13:08] DaemonFC I don't like paying a lot so that it can all go into advertising to keep others buying and convincing people to accept higher prices. [13:09] DaemonFC The brand name things at the stores are usually more expensive because you pay for the advertising that made you want it in the first place. [13:09] TR News This past week #watchtroll published FIVE (or more) ATTACK PIECES on #PTAB via #CAFC ... I say AT LEAST 5 because 5 headlines started with the word "CAFC". That's like 30% of all headlines! http://techrights.org/wiki/Court_of_Appeals_for_the_Federal_Circuit_%28CAFC%29 [13:09] TR Bot Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit (CAFC) - Techrights [13:10] DaemonFC Metromile has cheap insurance rates. They selectively target ads. You never see them on TV or anything. [13:10] DaemonFC They mostly take out ads on buses and stuff. [13:11] DaemonFC They go to Facebook where they can find people who live in cities with lots of public transit options and advertise to them. Then their ad spend to sales conversion rate is really really good, instead of doing what other insurance companies do and just carpet bomb everyone and even buying ads during the Super Bowl. [13:11] TR News Seems like #watchtroll lost a lot of regular writers. They try to recruit. Even ifs own founder isn't writing there anymore (or barely, at most once a week). Now he's selling agenda by #lobbying and lying, e.g. "Gene Quinn of IPWatchdog" https://www.patentdocs.org/2022/02/webinar-on-the-mechanics-of-fto-investigations.html [13:11] Alternative link Cloudflare: patentdocs.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.patentdocs.org/2022/02/webinar-on-the-mechanics-of-fto-investigations.html [13:11] TR Bot Patent Docs: Webinar on the Mechanics of FTO Investigations [13:12] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techrights [13:13] *inky (~inky@188.115.227.54) has joined #techrights [13:13] DaemonFC So it's like, do you want the insurance that's $400 a year cheaper or do you want one that has an ostrich chasing people during the football game for $2 million dollars per minute? [13:13] *inky has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [13:14] TR News An Absolute Novelty Design #Patent Trap for the Unwary https://www.natlawreview.com/article/absolute-novelty-design-patent-trap-unwary #DesignPatents are a sham http://techrights.org/2018/08/02/design-patents-legitimacy/ [13:14] TR Bot Global Design Patent Nuances to Be Aware of [13:14] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [13:14] TR Bot Design Patents: When Appearances Rather Than Inventions and Functions Are Oddly Enough Covered by Patents, Not Copyrights or Trademarks | Techrights [13:17] schestowitz https://suepo.org/february_2022_press_articles/d-47951 [13:17] TR Bot [13:17] schestowitz " (Kluwer Patent Blog published on 03/02/2022) "ILOAT: Former EPO president Battistelli violated staffs right of free association". *Translation is available in German , the French translation will follow soon." [13:18] TR News "Question: how many fundamental rights enshrined in the #ECHR can the #EPO violate without consequence for the individuals responsible?" http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/02/03/iloat-former-epo-president-battistelli-violated-staffs-right-of-free-association/#comments [13:18] TR Bot ILOAT: Former EPO president Battistelli violated staff's right of free association - Kluwer Patent Blog [13:19] TR News "Of course, one consequence of the ability of the EPOs management to act with impunity is that there will never be any access to TRUE justice for those whose human rights have been violated." http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/02/03/iloat-former-epo-president-battistelli-violated-staffs-right-of-free-association/#comments [13:20] TR News "So why do the Member States not only tolerate this situation, but also participate (eg by way of CA/D 2/14) in enabling the abuses of human rights at the EPO? Have they no shame?" http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/02/03/iloat-former-epo-president-battistelli-violated-staffs-right-of-free-association/ [13:20] TR Bot ILOAT: Former EPO president Battistelli violated staff's right of free association - Kluwer Patent Blog [13:29] DaemonFC schestowitz, Even the dental school is trying to sell expensive dental whitening products now. [13:29] DaemonFC They asked if I wanted to pay $150 for a whitening. I said, "Well, the level of whiteness doesn't really affect the health of the tooth. It's just a vanity thing. So no.". [13:30] DaemonFC Obsession with whiteness. Like everyone who isn't white. And how white is white enough? [13:30] DaemonFC $600 a year to keep your teeth whiter, why not? [13:30] DaemonFC It's not like you need money. [13:31] DaemonFC It's not like the car will break down and need repairs. It's not like you need to pay the rent. [13:32] DaemonFC My teeth are actually really really healthy except for a few fillings I got a really long time ago when I was much less concerned. I mean, as a teenager I was both depressed a lot and had no idea what things like dental work could end up costing. [13:32] DaemonFC So I wasn't brushing often enough, even. But after getting some fillings I decided that this was adding up faster and it would be something way worse sooner or later. [13:33] DaemonFC So since about 16 years ago, I haven't needed a single new filling and there's been no significant further decay. [13:35] DaemonFC I did laugh when I found out my toothbrush has bluetooth and a phone app. [13:35] DaemonFC That is a bit much. [13:38] *inky (~inky@188.115.227.54) has joined #techrights [13:41] *bnchs (~bnchs@szard4ghw2buu.irc) has joined #techrights [13:43] bnchs free software that only have discord or any proprietary service as it's support channel shouldn't be considered free [13:43] *GuySoft has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [13:44] DaemonFC You mean Firefox? [13:44] bnchs yt-dlp [13:44] bnchs they forked youtube-dl, got rid of all IRC references, and replaced it with discord [13:44] DaemonFC They added a site compatibility quirk for Slack because they use it internally and it locked them out from using Firefox anyway so they could use it for Firefox development discussions. [13:44] DaemonFC schestowitz, ^ [13:45] DaemonFC they forked youtube-dl, got rid of all IRC references, and replaced it with discord [13:45] DaemonFC Oh wow, nice fork. [13:45] bnchs yt-dlp is hosted on microsoft github, and uses discord [13:45] DaemonFC I'm sure the users will benefit tremendously. [13:47] *guysoft42 (~guysoft@2a0d:6fc1:2:1f00::bee) has joined #techrights [13:48] bnchs the problem is yt-dlp has youtube capping bypass and sponsorblock [13:49] bnchs i want to contribute but at the same time, don't want to use discord or github [13:49] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 16.01 k/sec., IPFS upstream 15.00 average k/sec., average swarm size 259.44 [13:49] bnchs https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp [13:49] TR Bot - yt-dlp/yt-dlp: A youtube-dl fork with additional features and fixes [13:50] bnchs oh they added a matrix? [13:57] DaemonFC Well, that's at least better than Discord. [13:58] DaemonFC In theory, Matrix is as acceptable as IRC. But in fact, the main instance is the most popular, and very likely to censor you and your chatrooms, and probably also blockades you from entering into chatrooms that the moderators of that instance don't like on other servers. [13:58] SomeH4x0r I eventually decided not to contribute [13:59] DaemonFC So you might as well just make an account on Nerdsin.space or something like I did and use Matrix.org rooms from there. [13:59] bnchs the yt-dlp channel is in matrix.org ● Feb 06 [14:00] SomeH4x0r because fuck brainwashed people, very little desire to join [14:00] SomeH4x0r GitHub even blocks my registrations [14:00] SomeH4x0r Discord often does as well. On Matrix it is easy to register, but still some web shit. [14:01] bnchs btw discord's developers really REALLY don't want to implement encryption [14:01] *guysoft42 has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [14:01] bnchs they keep throwing excuses about pedos, or how their staff won't read your DMs (which is very very true) [14:02] DaemonFC Mandatory e2e encryption should have been built into Matrix. [14:02] DaemonFC Stallman posted some specific abuses by Discord against certain individuals. [14:02] bnchs they ban custom clients, and their client is a big ball of process-spying bullshit [14:02] bnchs process-spying electron bullshit* [14:02] DaemonFC I can't remember what exactly now, but I decided I didn't want to use it after reading that. [14:03] DaemonFC they ban custom clients, and their client is a big ball of process-spying bullshit [14:03] DaemonFC Yeah, and it's on Flathub. [14:03] SomeH4x0r BitlBee + new account each time [14:03] bnchs they didn't release their client's source code [14:04] bnchs also the staff is very biased towards furries [14:05] *guysoft42 (~guysoft@2a0d:6fc1:2:1f00:53fe:5227:ee4d:53b7) has joined #techrights [14:08] SomeH4x0r afaik Matrix is also somewhat centralized to one big client [14:08] SomeH4x0r others lack features [14:09] SomeH4x0r maybe XMPP, but it was attacked by feature creep already [14:09] SomeH4x0r and they attack IRC as well with IRCv3 [14:10] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:10] *guysoft42 has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [14:12] *guysoft42 (~guysoft@2a0d:6fc1:2:1f00:bf7f:76c1:b1c:9fa8) has joined #techrights [14:16] SomeH4x0r I hardly have any plans for my future [14:16] bnchs i like having a intel iGPU that only supports OpenGL 3.3 on GNU/Linux and 3.0 on MSWindows [14:16] bnchs and no Vulkan [14:17] *GuySoft (~guysoft@2a0d:6fc1:2:1f00::bee) has joined #techrights [14:17] *GuySoft has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [14:17] *GuySoft (~guysoft@2a0d:6fc1:2:1f00::bee) has joined #techrights [14:18] *guysoft42 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [14:21] *guysoft42 (~guysoft@2a0d:6fc1:2:1f00::bee) has joined #techrights [14:22] *GuySoft has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [14:23] bnchs it didn't support OpenGL 3.3, mesa lied to me [14:23] bnchs only OpenGL 3.0 [14:27] *GuySoft (~guysoft@2a0d:6fc1:2:1f00::bee) has joined #techrights [14:27] *guysoft42 has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [14:30] *guysoft42 (~guysoft@2a0d:6fc1:2:1f00:4c32:e5e3:c798:dd20) has joined #techrights [14:30] *GuySoft has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [14:31] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:37] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techrights [14:42] *guysoft42 has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [14:43] *guysoft42 (~guysoft@2a0d:6fc1:2:1f00:d195:de01:30e3:170b) has joined #techrights [14:48] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #techrights [14:53] psydroid4 "honestly I feel at times like typical FOSS is inimical to good firmware" [14:54] psydroid4 what kind of mindset do you need to say such a thing? [14:54] psydroid4 and why would you be in the "OpenPOWER" community if you think closed x86 firmware is the greatest thing since sliced bread? [14:56] bnchs "good firmware" [14:57] bnchs then they'll say "good software [14:57] TR News #Europe Has a Severe #Corruption Crisis Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/06/video-about-the-42th-part/ #Techrights #EPO | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/06/video-about-the-42th-part/ [14:57] TR Bot Europe Has a Severe Corruption Crisis | Techrights [14:58] bnchs the firmware should be reverse engineered ● Feb 06 [15:01] TR News Educational Distro #Escuelas Linux 7.3 Is Here with Linux 5.15 LTS, LibreOffice 7.3, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161159 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:01] TR Bot Educational Distro Escuelas Linux 7.3 Is Here with Linux 5.15 LTS, LibreOffice 7.3, and More | Tux Machines [15:04] TR News #Imugene = Too much emphasis on #patents instead of products; in this case, #patent #monopolies from #EPO whose own examiners complain about invalid grants https://www.proactiveinvestors.com/companies/news/972724/imugene-welcomes-new-chief-medical-officer-and-talks-significant-new-patents-972724.html http://techrights.org/2021/12/28/epo-wont-invest-in-staff-and-in-quality/ [15:04] Alternative link Cloudflare: proactiveinvestors.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.proactiveinvestors.com/companies/news/972724/imugene-welcomes-new-chief-medical-officer-and-talks-significant-new-patents-972724.html [15:04] TR Bot Imugene Ltd welcomes new chief medical officer and talks significant new patents [15:04] TR Bot EPO Staff Representation: We Believe That the EPO Should Invest in Staff and in Quality (Not Cuts and Worse) | Techrights [15:07] TR News [Older] "The Eastern District of Texas manages more patent cases than any other district court in the United States." The patent trolls' #kangaroocourt https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/judge-albright-issues-updated-standing-8607923/ #europe next? http://techrights.org/2022/01/27/meme-epo-pursuing-an-eastern-and-western-district-of-europe-for-patent-trolls-and-software-patents/ [15:07] TR Bot Albright Issues Updated Standing Order for Patent Cases | McDermott Will & Emery - JDSupra [15:07] TR Bot [Meme] EPO: Pursuing an Eastern and Western District of Europe (for Patent Trolls and Software Patents) | Techrights [15:08] *techrights_guest|66 (~325d424e@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [15:09] *techrights_guest|66 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [15:09] TR News Notice the total disregard for the law; they look at the law as an obstacle to overcome, not obey, in the name of #patent #aggression / #litigation https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1134682/current-patenting-issues-in-europe-facing-life-sciencesbiotech-innovators-and-effective-claim-drafting-strategies-to-avoid-pitfalls [15:09] TR Bot Current Patenting Issues In Europe Facing Life Sciences/Biotech Innovators And Effective Claim Drafting Strategies To Avoid Pitfalls - Intellectual Property - UK [15:10] TR News Looks like #lexology has outsourced to #microsoft ... truly insane! http://techrights.org/2021/03/18/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-13/ [15:10] TR Bot EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law Part XIII: A Global IP Player | Techrights [15:12] TR News No, UPC is illegal; as such, it will be stopped, just like before... https://www.wr.no/en/news/progress-for-the-realisation-of-the-unified-patent-court/ see http://techrights.org/2021/12/19/benjamin-henrion-cjeu/ #upc #unifiedpatentcourt #unitarypatent [15:12] TR Bot Progress for the realisation of the Unified Patent Court [15:12] TR Bot Unified Patent Court is a Fake Common Court and Violates CJEUs Jurisprudence of the Last 10 Years, Will Explode at launch, Says Professor Jaeger | Techrights [15:14] TR News Suffice to say, these #EPO tribunals are patently rigged; a dog wagged by its own tail https://www.dyoung.com/en/knowledgebank/articles/t1989-18-description-adaptation see http://techrights.org/2021/06/26/g-121-epo-catastrophe/ [15:14] TR Bot D Young & Co | T 1989/18: adaptation of the description of a European [15:14] TR Bot G 1/21 is a Catastrophe for the EPOs Legitimacy | Techrights [15:16] TR News #Blackmail (embargo) by #patents benefits nobody, even if in this particular case it hurts a nasty company like #Apple https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1120742/uk-court-rules-apple-must-unconditionally-commit-to-a-frand-license-to-avoid-an-injunction #uk #litigation lobbying... [15:16] TR Bot UK Court Rules Apple Must Unconditionally Commit To A FRAND License To Avoid An Injunction - Intellectual Property - UK [15:17] TR News This has been mostly a source of shame and disgrace to #Australia , which got conned by buzzwords, lies, and lawyers https://www.mondaq.com/patent/1154364/for-the-first-time-in-history--australian-court-rules-that-artificial-intelligence-can-be-registered-as-an-inventor-in-a-patent see http://techrights.org/2021/08/05/patents-for-bots/ [15:17] TR Bot For The First Time In History - Australian Court Rules That Artificial Intelligence Can Be Registered As An Inventor In A Patent - Intellectual Property - Worldwide [15:17] TR Bot [Meme] Patents for Bots (the Other Kind of Hey Hi Patents) | Techrights [15:20] TR News Which institution is more corrupt? #euipo or its Chinese counterpart? https://inventa.com/en/news/article/712/design-systems-in-china-and-the-european-union EUIPO is worse, I think http://techrights.org/2021/09/11/jobs-as-bribes/ http://techrights.org/wiki/EUIPO [15:20] TR Bot Systems in China and the European Union - Inventa [15:20] TR Bot EPO Expos: The Besieged Baltic States Part XX Top Jobs at EUIPO for Compliant Baltic Officials? | Techrights [15:20] TR Bot EUIPO - Techrights [15:23] TR News #nokia leverages patents from the #EPO to tax everything, and to nobody's actual advantage http://www.fosspatents.com/2022/02/nokia-4g-patent-upheld-by-european.html see http://techrights.org/wiki/Nokia [15:23] TR Bot FOSS Patents: Nokia 4G patent upheld by European Patent Office, stronger than ever thanks to Daimler's wasteful litigation effort [15:23] TR Bot Nokia - Techrights [15:25] TR News Overzealous #litigation giant #GowlingWLG , which spreads #fakenews for financial gain, is trying to extend its ' #patent hegemony' regime to the Gulf https://www.mondaq.com/patent/1156870/implementing-regulations-confirm-the-gcc-patent-office39s-new-working-model [15:25] TR Bot Implementing Regulations Confirm The GCC Patent Office's New Working Model - Intellectual Property - United Arab Emirates [15:27] TR News This board, like all the other boards, isn't compliant with the #EPC ; it's basically a kangaroo court controlled by the #EPO 's corrupt and truly illegitimate regime https://www.mondaq.com/canada/patent/1157878/an-end-to-adapting-the-description-to-allowed-claims-at-the-epo see http://techrights.org/2021/06/26/g-121-epo-catastrophe/ [15:27] TR Bot An End To Adapting The Description To Allowed Claims At The EPO? - Intellectual Property - Canada [15:29] TR News US has fallen so far behind that now there's an effort to secure patents in China rather than the other way around https://www.proactiveinvestors.com/companies/news/972950/american-manganese-poised-to-add-china-to-its-global-patent-portfolio-972950.html Chinese patent quality is regarded as a joke http://techrights.org/2018/01/07/china-patent-policy/ [15:29] Alternative link Cloudflare: proactiveinvestors.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.proactiveinvestors.com/companies/news/972950/american-manganese-poised-to-add-china-to-its-global-patent-portfolio-972950.html [15:29] TR Bot American Manganese Inc. poised to add China to its global patent portfolio [15:29] TR Bot Chinas Self-Destructive Patent Policy Will Replace Assembly Lines of Products With Assembly Lines of Low-Quality Patents and Lawsuits | Techrights [15:31] bnchs imagine you want to implement something, but unfortunately it got patented, so you have to not implement [15:32] bnchs even though it might optimize your program [15:32] TR News Instead of feeding people #Ocado is just suing people with junk #patents that courts already frown upon; of course the #EPO played a role https://financialpost.com/technology/a-remote-village-a-world-changing-invention-and-the-epic-legal-fight-that-followed http://techrights.org/wiki/EPO [15:32] TR Bot A remote village, a world-changing invention and the epic legal fight that followed | Financial Post [15:32] TR Bot EPO - Techrights [15:33] schestowitz A mini-project that lets us self-host the #Gemini proxy/gateway is underway; it is custom-made for the needs of Techrights but generalised enough to be used by other sites/capsules, too Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/06/an-implementation-of-a-gemini-to-https-proxygateway-in-perl/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW [15:33] TR Bot An Implementation of a Gemini-to-HTTP/S Proxy/Gateway in Perl | Techrights [15:34] TR News Whilst a lot of the so-called media or so-called news sites which are focused on #patent issues (also the press at large) choose to ignore #EPO #corruption this growing epidemic spreads and is being normalised Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/06/video-about-the-42th-part/ #Techrights #Europe | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/06/video-about-the-42th-part/ [15:36] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:36] schestowitz-TR bnchs: yes, software patents [15:37] schestowitz-TR very insane idea to even have them [15:37] bnchs it's counterproductive [15:37] bnchs makes your program low-quality [15:37] schestowitz-TR lawyers profit from this productvity sink [15:37] schestowitz-TR also harms the environment [15:37] bnchs you can't even implement MP4 without having to pay [15:38] bnchs funny how windows media player tells you that you have to pay to play MP4 files [15:47] schestowitz-TR yes [15:47] schestowitz-TR codecs are a good example of it [15:47] schestowitz-TR mp* is not even good [15:47] schestowitz-TR they made it worse [15:47] schestowitz-TR intentionally [15:48] schestowitz-TR just so they can get more patents on it [15:48] schestowitz-TR and then used "standards" bodies to force us all to pay [15:48] bnchs the problem are websites that use mp* [15:49] schestowitz-TR or rather: [15:49] schestowitz-TR the BROWSERS [15:49] schestowitz-TR which the sites expect [15:49] bnchs i wouldn't have to bother with mp*, if they didn't push it on users [15:49] schestowitz-TR asame for DRM/EME [15:49] schestowitz-TR Mozilla is owned by GAFAM [15:49] bnchs and music [15:49] schestowitz-TR follow the money [15:49] schestowitz-TR so gulag and microsoft get to tell mozilla what to support [15:49] schestowitz-TR and mozilla even pays $20,000,000 [15:49] schestowitz-TR to the MPEG cartel [15:50] schestowitz http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/MPEG-LA [15:50] TR Bot MPEG-LA - Techrights [15:50] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [15:51] schestowitz for evergreening they now push HEVC and other crap [15:51] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2019/10/30/patent-evergreening-kills/ http://techrights.org/2020/07/08/fraunhofer-is-cartel/ [15:51] TR Bot Patent Evergreening Kills | Techrights [15:51] TR Bot Fraunhofer is Again Evergreening Software Patents to Maintain Its Codecs Cartel, Forcing Everyone to Pay to View/Stream Multimedia Files | Techrights [15:53] bnchs what do you mean about them trying to sue VP8 with patent lawsuits [15:55] *inky (~inky@188.115.227.54) has joined #techrights ● Feb 06 [16:04] *Sweety (~1029384756@7bwkwtvnhcdr6.irc) has joined #techrights [16:05] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:08] *CrystalMath (~coderain@arr2apsxwwdfq.irc) has joined #techrights [16:10] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techrights [16:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techrights [16:10] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 17.50 k/sec., IPFS upstream 16.41 average k/sec., average swarm size 259.50 [16:11] TR News The aggressive litigation firms that pay this writer for propaganda charge 'only' half a grand an hour? https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/people-and-business/continental-europes-patent-firms-slow-to-increase-hourly-rates/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Juve [16:11] TR Bot Continental Europe's patent firms slow to increase hourly rates - JUVE Patent [16:11] TR Bot Juve - Techrights [16:13] TR News #MaxWalters still a faithful mouthpiece of lawsuits-happy sponsors of his journalism (lobbying) https://www.managingip.com/article/b1wlwg0rtydybm/counsel-at-odds-over-uk-designs-overhaul what do people who cannot profit from litigation have to say, Max? [16:13] TR Bot Counsel at odds over UK designs overhaul | Managing Intellectual Property [16:14] TR News When #SukanyaSarkar says "sources" she means sponsors (for whom she amplifies something for #lobbying purposes) https://www.managingip.com/article/b1wlwllwl5qfc9/counsel-call-for-transparency-in-chinas-bad-faith-screening #managingip = #propagandaMill [16:14] TR Bot Counsel call for transparency in Chinas bad-faith screening | Managing Intellectual Property [16:15] TR News Notice how they always tell what "Counsel" have to say but nobody else; bought 'journalism' https://www.managingip.com/article/b1wlbw1lr5gqyf/counsel-laud-india-scs-rare-tm-decision-but-want-more [16:15] TR Bot Counsel laud India SCs rare TM decision, but want more | Managing Intellectual Property [16:16] TR News "The #softwarepatent is owned by eSignature, LLC, an NPE. The '527 generally relates to a system and method for embedding a written signature into a secure electronic document. It is currently being asserted against Adobe." #swpats https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/1/31/2000-for-esignature-prior-art #ptab #fakepatents [16:16] Alternative link Cloudflare: unifiedpatents.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/1/31/2000-for-esignature-prior-art [16:16] TR Bot $2,000 for eSignature prior art Unified Patents [16:18] TR News #microsoft connected (via IV) #patentTroll #DominionHarbor https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/2/1/18000-for-redwood-technologies-prior-art see http://techrights.org/wiki/Dominion_Harbor [16:18] Alternative link Cloudflare: unifiedpatents.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/2/1/18000-for-redwood-technologies-prior-art [16:18] TR Bot $18,000 for Dominion Harbor sub, Redwood Technologies, prior art Unified Patents [16:18] TR Bot Dominion Harbor - Techrights [16:20] TR News "Id like to thank GL.inet for sending GL-S10 BLE to MQTT gateway for review." Spam/ad, no connected to #linux at all, from Jean-Luc Aufranc (CNXSoft). Paid-for 'review'. Going the way of the #phoronix dodo https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/02/06/review-of-gl-inet-gl-s10-ble-to-mqtt-gateway-with-mqtt-x-open-source-client/ [16:20] Alternative link Cloudflare: cnx-software.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/02/06/review-of-gl-inet-gl-s10-ble-to-mqtt-gateway-with-mqtt-x-open-source-client/ [16:20] TR Bot Review of GL.inet GL-S10 BLE to MQTT gateway with MQTT X open-source client - CNX Software [16:22] TR News Twist Promises Easier Quantum Programming | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2022/02/05/twist-promises-easier-quantum-programming/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/06/#latest [16:22] TR Bot Promises Easier Quantum Programming | Hackaday [16:22] TR Bot Social Control Media Posts [16:22] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:22] *bnchs (~bnchs@szard4ghw2buu.irc) has joined #techrights [16:23] TR News Write code inspired by Shakespeare with #esolang | https://opensource.com/article/22/2/shakespeare-esolang #FreeSW #RedHat #IBM [16:23] TR Bot code inspired by Shakespeare with esolang | Opensource.com [16:26] MinceR (cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/sarcasm-only-instagram-memes-21.jpg [16:26] Alternative link Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/sarcasm-only-instagram-memes-21.jpg [16:31] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161160 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [16:31] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [16:32] TR News Links 6/2/2022: Absolute GNU/Linux 15.0 and Linux on IBM #PalmTop Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/06/linux-on-ibm-palmtop/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/06/linux-on-ibm-palmtop/ [16:32] TR Bot Links 6/2/2022: Absolute GNU/Linux 15.0 and Linux on IBM PalmTop | Techrights [16:38] TR News vga=792 removed from legacy boot mode https://bkhome.org/news/202202/vga792-removed-from-legacy-boot-mode.html [16:38] TR Bot vga=792 removed from legacy boot mode [16:41] TR News A practical solution for GNU/Hurd's lack of drivers: NetBSD's rumpkernel framework https://fosdem.org/2022/schedule/event/dzammit/ #gnu #hurd #freesw [16:41] TR Bot FOSDEM 2022 - A practical solution for GNU/Hurd's lack of drivers: NetBSD's rumpkernel framework [16:46] TR News "Back in 2018, when I acquired my legendary ThinkPad X220, I discovered that there is a lady in Ontario, Ms. Chulkova, who does professional battery rebuilding as a side-gig" https://fortintam.com/blog/chans-battery-rebuild-refactoring-thinkpad-laptop-batteries/ [16:46] TR Bot CHANS battery rebuild: giving traditional laptops a new life with refactored batteries cells The Open Sourcerer [16:47] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161161 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [16:48] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [16:49] TR News "In October 2020, the #TTAB upheld failure-to-function refusals of the term .SUCKS in standard character and in stylized form (shown below), for domain registry services related to the #gTLD in the proposed mark." http://thettablog.blogspot.com/2022/02/cafc-affirms-ttab-sucks-stylized-fails.html [16:49] TR Bot The TTABlog: CAFC Affirms TTAB: ".SUCKS" (Stylized) Fails to Function as a Source Indicator for Domain Registry Operator Services [16:49] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:50] TR News #SoftwarePatents of a notorious #patent #cartel https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/1/27/velos-086-patent-successfully-challenged see http://techrights.org/2015/07/26/hevc-cartel/ [16:50] Alternative link Cloudflare: unifiedpatents.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/1/27/velos-086-patent-successfully-challenged [16:50] TR Bot Velos '086 patent successfully challenged Unified Patents [16:50] TR Bot HEVC Cartel is Not News, Only the Names of Backers and the Costs Are New | Techrights [16:50] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techrights [16:50] TR News Proven Networks proven to be PAE in public interest statements " Unified #Patents https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/1/31/proven-networks-proven-to-be-pae-in-public-interest-statements #unifiedpatents [16:50] Alternative link Cloudflare: unifiedpatents.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/1/31/proven-networks-proven-to-be-pae-in-public-interest-statements [16:50] TR Bot Proven Networks proven to be PAE in public interest statements Unified Patents [16:54] TR News Constant and chronic liars, who endlessly lie about UPC ( #SimmonsAndSimmons LLP), which is illegal, rooting for corrupt #EPO management instead of condemning it http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/02/01/top-4-changes-to-the-2022-epo-guidelines-for-examination/ unlawful guidelines do not comply with EPC http://techrights.org/wiki/EPO [16:54] TR Bot Top 4 changes to the 2022 EPO Guidelines for Examination - Kluwer Patent Blog [16:54] TR Bot EPO - Techrights [16:55] TR News #Kinsella used to do much more prestigious platforms than this... https://www.stephankinsella.com/paf-podcast/kol374-intellectual-contributions-of-hoppe-great-fiction-podcast/ [16:55] TR Bot KOL374 | The Intellectual Contributions of Hans-Hermann Hoppe: The Great Fiction Podcast Ep. 1 [16:56] TR News #Criminals who took over the #EPO pretend to care about the general public while breaking the #law in every aspect https://www.epo.org/news-events/news/2022/20220203.html see http://techrights.org/wiki/EPO [16:56] TR Bot EPO - Public consultation opens on latest EPC and PCT-EPO Guidelines [16:57] TR News ...of course #SimmonsAndSimmons LLP is happy to use the EPO's words to promote software patents, disregarding common sense and so much more http://techrights.org/wiki/Software_Patents_in_Europe [16:57] TR Bot Software Patents in Europe - Techrights [16:58] TR News "I'm much more worried about the use of the names of world famouse artists as 'trade marks', composers for wine and spirits, confections etc. That's USE in its worse meaning." http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2022/01/using-that-classic-piece-of-art-on-book.html?showComment=1643719054571#c7610152675829715832 [16:58] TR Bot Using that classic piece of art on a book cover: Grr - 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Mylan-- the Illiad was shorter - The IPKat ● Feb 06 [17:02] TR News #Patentlitigation profiteer #MichaelBorella has taken his dishonest #lobbying from blog as a platform to "webinar" (ads) https://www.patentdocs.org/2022/02/mbhb-webinar-on-patent-eligibility-and-the-expanding-notion-of-abstraction.html see http://techrights.org/2018/04/15/patent-maximalism-scholars/ [17:02] Alternative link Cloudflare: patentdocs.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.patentdocs.org/2022/02/mbhb-webinar-on-patent-eligibility-and-the-expanding-notion-of-abstraction.html [17:02] TR Bot Patent Docs: MBHB Webinar on Patent-Eligibility and the Expanding Notion of Abstraction [17:02] TR Bot Academics and Think Tanks for Patent Maximalism | Techrights [17:03] TR News The lack of #generics up until now, due solely to #patents , made the lives of many people a lot worse https://www.patentdocs.org/2022/02/fda-approves-generic-restasis.html #patent #monopolies [17:03] Alternative link Cloudflare: patentdocs.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.patentdocs.org/2022/02/fda-approves-generic-restasis.html [17:03] TR Bot Patent Docs: FDA Approves Generic Restasis [17:05] TR News More #Gulag #surveillance https://news.bloomberglaw.com/tech-and-telecom-law/hill-tech-cyber-briefing-google-warned-about-passcode-theft #google [17:05] Alternative link Cloudflare: bloomberglaw.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://news.bloomberglaw.com/tech-and-telecom-law/hill-tech-cyber-briefing-google-warned-about-passcode-theft [17:05] TR Bot NO TITLE [17:06] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:07] TR News "Out of every 1,000 issued patents, only about 14 include prior art submissions from third parties." https://patentlyo.com/patent/2022/02/uspto-third-submissions.html This means that many #fakepatents are being allowed with any real fact-checking or scrutiny; this system has gone defunct, made to benefit mass #litigation firms and #monopolies [17:07] TR Bot USPTO Third Party Submissions | Patently-O [17:11] TR News "In January 2022, the #TTAB #trademark Board decided twenty-two (22) appeals from Section 2(d) refusals. It affirmed them all. Here are the first four Section 2(d) decisions of this month. Has the streak been broken? How do you think they turned out?" #Trademarks #Trademark http://thettablog.blogspot.com/2022/02/ttablog-test-how-did-these-four-section.html [17:11] TR Bot The TTABlog: TTABlog Test: How Did These Four Section 2(d) Appeals Turn Out? [17:12] *lukaso666 has quit (Quit: , !) [17:12] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techrights [17:13] TR News The salaried #spammer #AmySandys , who intentionally publishes #fakenews to advance illegal agenda, is once again doing spammy ads as 'news'; hiring one person isn't new, but this is #marketing , not reporting https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/people-and-business/kilburn-strode-hires-hoffmann-eitle-director-in-amsterdam/ JUVE ads as 'news' http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Juve [17:13] TR Bot Kilburn & Strode hires Hoffmann Eitle director in Amsterdam - JUVE Patent [17:13] TR Bot Juve - Techrights [17:16] TR News #UKIPO pretends to care what the British public thinks while actually adopting the proposals of foreign #lobbyists http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2022/01/uk-ipo-launches-call-for-views-on.html see http://techrights.org/2021/10/10/epo-uk-ac-delegates/ #uk #monopolies [17:16] TR Bot UK IPO launches call for views on the Designs System - The IPKat [17:16] TR Bot The EPOs Overseer/Overseen Collusion Part VIII: Perfidious Albion and Pusillanimous Hibernia | Techrights [17:18] TR News This is about #tradesecrets , not IP, which is a fictional thing and misleading misnomer; #JanJacobi relies on #propaganda terms here... http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2022/01/no-ip-no-right-to-information-cjeu-to.html [17:18] TR Bot No IP, no right to information? CJEU to clarify scope of article 8 Enforcement Directive - The IPKat [17:19] TR News "Reading #Ericsson 's late-Friday filings in the two FRAND cases in the [ #kangaroocourt ] Eastern District of #Texas creates a bit of a High Noon feeling: a duel is in the air. Just a courtroom duel, fortunately." http://www.fosspatents.com/2022/02/ericsson-and-apple-may-soon-meet-in.html" [17:19] TR Bot FOSS Patents: Ericsson and Apple may soon meet in Texas court over dueling FRAND claims: new filing calls Apple an "unlicensed [patent] infringer" [17:21] TR News This is clearly limited to #patents ; the term "IP" is nonsense, but those who call their own site after this #propaganda term will never wish to admit it (they're paid to relay the false narratives) https://www.managingip.com/article/b1wknsf5l0v3xl/exclusive-nordic-ip-chief-quit-fsa-board-before-nokia-licensing-deal https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/not-ipr.en.html [17:21] TR Bot Exclusive: Nordic IP chief quit FSA board before Nokia licensing deal | Managing Intellectual Property [17:21] TR Bot Did You Say Intellectual Property? It's a Seductive Mirage - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation [17:23] TR News Dutch courts have openly enabled (with help from the government) criminals from the #EPO get away with crimes; do we want to rely on them for patent disputes? https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/cases/dutch-courts-could-have-international-jurisdiction-to-hear-frand-claims/ see http://techrights.org/2021/10/08/dutch-role-illegal-epo-policies/ [17:23] TR Bot Dutch courts could have international jurisdiction to hear FRAND claims - JUVE Patent [17:23] TR Bot The EPOs Overseer/Overseen Collusion Part VI: A Distinct Lack of Dutch Courage | Techrights [17:23] TR News Florian Mller: #Ericsson to #ITC : #Apple mischaracterizes our position on patent enforcement, and base stations are way harder to replace than smartphones, especially after Huawei ban http://www.fosspatents.com/2022/02/ericsson-to-itc-apple-mischaracterizes.html #fosspatents [17:23] TR Bot FOSS Patents: Ericsson to ITC: Apple mischaracterizes our position on patent enforcement, and base stations are way harder to replace than smartphones, especially after Huawei ban [17:25] TR News This is framed as #marketing /promotion for #patent #litigation firms (the real clients of JUVE) instead of news/reporting, i.e. the usual from JUVE https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/cases/vorwerk-wins-against-lidl-in-dispute-over-kitchen-appliance/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Juve [17:25] TR Bot Vorwerk wins against Lidl in dispute over kitchen appliance - JUVE Patent [17:26] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [17:27] TR News When #litigation firms bribe the media (including this writer) and hire #lobbyists to write/change the law it's hardly surprising we end up with more #lawsuits , i.e. the public pays extortionate fees to people who produce nothing at all https://www.managingip.com/article/b1wlgdm12kblw0/opinion-qcs-must-shun-limelight-if-juniors-are-to-thrive [17:27] TR Bot Opinion: QCs must shun limelight if juniors are to thrive | Managing Intellectual Property [17:29] TR News #MeissnerBolte is promoting a crime https://www.meissnerbolte.de/en/news/translate-to-english-upc-roadshow-februar-2022/ see http://techrights.org/2022/02/05/rendering-epo-illegal/ #unitarypatent #unifiedpatentcourt [17:29] TR Bot Meissner-Bolte: UPC Roadshow Februar 2022 [17:29] TR Bot Abandoning the EPC in Order to Promote Corporations-Led EPO With Kangaroo Courts (UPC) is Simply Illegal | Techrights [17:30] TR News #HerbertSmithFreehills intentionally promoting fiction and #fakenews in an effort to usher in a totally illegal system they hope to profit from https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1152802/the-unified-patent-court-and-unitary-patent-introduction see http://techrights.org/2021/08/19/captured-media-telling-lies/ / #unitarypatent #unifiedpatentcourt [17:30] TR Bot The Unified Patent Court And Unitary Patent Introduction - Intellectual Property - European Union [17:30] TR Bot Naming and Shaming Captured Publications That Knowingly and Intentionally Published Fake News About the EUs Unified Patent Court So Far This Week | Techrights [17:33] TR News "Welcome to the fourth episode in a series of articles that I am writing about using Slackware as your private/personal cloud server." https://alien.slackbook.org/blog/slackware-cloud-server-series-episode-4-productivity-platform/ [17:33] TR Bot Slackware Cloud Server Series, Episode 4: Productivity Platform | Alien Pastures [17:34] TR News #3dfx Glide Coming to Linux with Support for Modern GPUs https://www.tomshardware.com/news/3dfx-glide-linux-gaming [17:34] TR Bot 3dfx Glide Coming to Linux with Support for Modern GPUs | Tom's Hardware [17:50] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.15 k/sec., IPFS upstream 24.91 average k/sec., average swarm size 259.57 [17:53] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [17:53] *inky (~inky@46.70.146.73) has joined #techrights ● Feb 06 [18:03] MinceR https://abstrusegoose.com/322 [18:03] TR Bot Abstruse Goose | Reasons [18:27] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [18:29] SomeH4x0r took a look at Qt today, seems to be going eviler. Requiring a phone number just to download an installer, and seems it is happening for years. [18:29] SomeH4x0r What options for GUI programming? [18:30] MinceR Tk, FLTK [18:38] SomeH4x0r 20:38 <@cGIfl300> Tk is for beginer, you will get hard doing more than single form apps [18:38] SomeH4x0r is it correct? [18:39] SomeH4x0r 20:38 <@cGIfl300> ttk will add you the oportunity to use tabs and theming [18:39] SomeH4x0r 20:39 <@cGIfl300> but you will just get the basic componments from win32 [18:39] SomeH4x0r 20:39 <@cGIfl300> Same as many desktop toolkits, this is why we do use electron, it really extend the possibilities. [18:42] *inky (~inky@46.70.146.73) has joined #techrights [18:43] *inky has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [18:44] *inky (~inky@46.70.146.73) has joined #techrights [18:48] *Sweety has quit (connection closed) [18:52] MinceR i'm not sure if things like git gui and gitk are "single form apps" [18:53] MinceR but yeah, electron really extends the possibilities of taking up RAM and CPU time :> ● Feb 06 [19:00] SomeH4x0r yes, he seems not to care about these, he buys new hardware all the time [19:01] *inky has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [19:02] psydroid4 Intel hardware [19:02] psydroid4 Core i3, i5, i7 and i9 [19:02] psydroid4 all at the same time [19:06] *inky (~inky@46.70.146.73) has joined #techrights [19:10] SomeH4x0r I was taught some Lazarus/Pascal at school. How good it is in real world? [19:11] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@tnxugezmmi87e.irc) has joined #techrights [19:12] psydroid4 Whatever works for you is the real world [19:24] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [19:25] DaemonFC Apple Insider wrote about using Google's calculator on the Web. [19:25] DaemonFC Apple doesn't approve apps if they "duplicate something the phone already has" even if the iOS app is clunky and doesn't have as many features. [19:26] *inky (~inky@188.115.245.22) has joined #techrights [19:26] DaemonFC So if they include a Web browser that's not great, you can't compete with them. [19:27] DaemonFC If your calculator has a better scientific mode, they bounce it back. [19:27] DaemonFC Users would be "confused" about having two entire apps that can perform math calculations. [19:28] DaemonFC So, software for iOS tends to be shitty and not appropriate if you need special features that don't work for the mass market. [19:29] DaemonFC schestowitz, Part of the pushback against the American healthcare system now is at-home diagnostic tests. [19:29] DaemonFC All the rage lately. [19:30] DaemonFC A lab bill for a comprehensive STD panel, for example, can be over $800, but you can order one online you do at home that checks for all of the important ones for $149, and they'll give a 10% discount if you set it to order them twice a year. [19:30] DaemonFC A doctor visit for PrEP costs hundreds of dollars plus the labs, but there's now apps where the visits are free even without insurance, a doctor robosigns prescriptions, and you do the labs on yourself at home. [19:31] DaemonFC I don't know exactly how that works because the apps are new and didn't exist when I was on PrEP. [19:31] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:31] DaemonFC I mean, it would be good if people are getting it, but I'd like to know how the app company and the doctors are being paid. [19:31] MinceR pascal is painful in the real world [19:32] DaemonFC I might fire off an email to them telling them I'm going to run a story about them and I'd like them to comment about how their app is free and where they get money from. [19:32] MinceR iirc variable length strings were something that didn't occur to the people who standardized the language [19:32] MinceR varargs are for standard library only [19:32] MinceR in object pascal, destructors don't get called automatically [19:33] MinceR the whole language tends to come with a lot of extra verbosity and restrictions [19:36] DaemonFC schestowitz, Something just rubs me the wrong way about Mistr. [19:36] MinceR Little Misters [19:36] DaemonFC Because no "free" of charge app lets you see a doctor, calls in prescriptions, and does free labs. [19:37] DaemonFC Those things all cost a lot of money, so someone is paying them. [19:37] MinceR (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT5GpFnRMEQ [19:37] TR Bot A Spectacular Piece Of Pedantry Created An International Enclave - YouTube [19:38] DaemonFC It makes more sense for most people to check themselves for STDs vs. doing it in a doctor's office. [19:38] DaemonFC But when your doctor is managing your PrEP case, they write lab orders every few months and won't renew your PrEP without current labs. [19:38] DaemonFC So there's a lot of cost here, even though one of the medications is generic and fairly cheap now. [19:39] DaemonFC You still have to pay the doctor and the labs, and without insurance that can work out to several thousand dollars a year. [19:39] DaemonFC So I'm skeptical of "Mistr". [19:41] DaemonFC My guess is that either the drug companies are paying for this somehow, in which case I doubt they'd prescribe you generic PrEP medication, or they are selling your data and the value is in getting your signature on a form that waives your rights under HIPAA. [19:41] DaemonFC Or both. [19:41] DaemonFC MinceR, "When you're good at something, never do it for free!" -The Joker [19:42] DaemonFC "You want to see a magic trick? I'm gonna make this pencil disappear! *slams the guy's head into the table, and the pencil goes through his eye socket* TADA!" [19:43] DaemonFC I saw that for the first time and cracked up. [19:44] DaemonFC They say that the explosives in the hospital scene didn't go off on time, so Heath Ledger (in character) just stopped, turned around, and kept hitting it until the building blew up a few moments later, and then jumped back. [19:45] DaemonFC And it was just so good that they left it in. [19:46] DaemonFC MinceR, They should have done the pencil scene with Patrick Leahy. [19:46] DaemonFC :) [19:46] DaemonFC For realsies. [19:46] DaemonFC bbiab [19:47] MinceR i liked that magic trick a lot [19:49] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:49] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 17.75 k/sec., IPFS upstream 17.03 average k/sec., average swarm size 259.66 ● Feb 06 [20:09] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techrights [20:12] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:40] *inky has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [20:40] *inky_ (~inky@46.36.118.112) has joined #techrights [20:56] activelow schestowitz: lol, a red hat developer opped himself in oftc, just because i asked some questions there, about vendor-locks and compilers [20:57] activelow next, some ad-hominem instead of answering _technical_ questions, the usual routine [20:59] XRevan86 "about vendor-locks and compilers" <- ho boy ● Feb 06 [21:00] activelow they didn't dare to kickban yet [21:01] activelow it is remarkable nonetheless, they seem well trained in gaslighting and dis-information [21:02] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@jvt9tzvngy35u.irc) has joined #techrights [21:02] activelow which isn't particularly helpful with _technical_ questions [21:02] DaemonFC pascal is painful in the real world [21:03] DaemonFC Borland's was popular many years ago. [21:03] DaemonFC TurboPascal [21:03] activelow however, if this was Red hat, as they officially presented themselves in their developer channel, i'll not look back anymore [21:03] DaemonFC There is some software under the GNU GPL that depended on non-Free Borland software. [21:04] DaemonFC Calmira II for Windows was under the GPL, but you can't compile it without Borland Delphi, and it won't run without the redistributable Borland runtime code. [21:05] MinceR i know [21:05] MinceR and yet it was still painful [21:05] DaemonFC I'm pretty sure I saw a lot of other stuff on "freeware" CDs in the 90s like this. [21:06] XRevan86 Delphi was very popular in Russia. [21:06] DaemonFC I wrote to the publisher of "Galaxy of Games" when I was like 12 or so. [21:06] DaemonFC I asked them for the source code to "Windows Adventure" since it said it was under the GNU GPL and you could get source code from the distributor. [21:06] DaemonFC They never wrote back. [21:06] DaemonFC Galaxy of Games has been dumped into ISO files and placed on the Internet Archive. [21:07] DaemonFC So the Internet Archive is violating the license now too. [21:08] DaemonFC It would be difficult for the publisher of the CDs to assert that the compilation gives them special copyrights. Literally all they did was find a bunch of junk on BBS systems and the Web and burn it to CD and sell a bunch of them at department stores. [21:08] DaemonFC In most cases this was fine because it's exactly what the author of the program intended for them to do, but occasionally you'd run into Free Software and no way to get the source code. [21:09] DaemonFC Delphi was very popular in Russia. [21:09] DaemonFC It's still a thing. [21:09] DaemonFC Some company called Codegear now, I think. [21:09] DaemonFC I wonder if anyone has made a Free Delphi. [21:10] XRevan86 CodeGear is a subsidiary of Embarcadero, which is a subsidiary of Idera [21:10] DaemonFC I can see why Calmira II uses it. [21:10] XRevan86 The CodeGear brand is not really used since the acquisition by Embarcadero. [21:11] DaemonFC It's really just a clever hack on Windows 3.1/3.11 that acts as a user shell. [21:11] DaemonFC It operates as closely as you can under Windows 3.1x to Windows 95. [21:11] XRevan86 "I wonder if anyone has made a Free Delphi." <- *cough cough* Lazarus *cough cough* [21:11] DaemonFC There were a lot of people who tried to improve Windows. And succeeded. [21:12] DaemonFC But many got letters from Microsoft threatening to sue. [21:12] MinceR delphi was also inexplicably popular here in hungary [21:12] XRevan86 Double Commander manages to look&feel like a Win32 programme under any environment. [21:12] XRevan86 Courtesy of Lazarus. [21:12] DaemonFC Microsoft wasn't happy about Internet Explorer removal tools, especially the ones that turned all of the junk that nobody wanted into optional components. [21:14] DaemonFC One of the reasons Microsoft did Service Packs for Windows XP was because one would occasionally come along and if you tried to install it on a custom image of XP, it would hose the operating system. [21:14] DaemonFC So you had to make a new ISO, integrate the service pack, and then use an updated copy of nLite to remove stuff from that, and then clean install Windows XP again. [21:15] DaemonFC They realized that they had nothing in court with which to threaten these people with, but they could get the user to expect a broken OS that they'd have to reinstall if they used those tools. [21:16] XRevan86 Fun fact: Embarcadero RAD Studio now uses Clang, they just deprecated bcc. [21:17] DaemonFC "Linux" is so revolutionary that most of the OS is optional and you won't break it if you don't use those parts and want to cut down on bloat. [21:19] DaemonFC There's another big expansion mod for Fallout: New Vegas. [21:20] DaemonFC It's kind of funny that the expansions to this game are both freeware and better than anything coming out of Microsoft Bethesda and their rapist in the music department. [21:21] XRevan86 MinceR: Condolences I guess, but it's all in the past. Could've been worse, could've been Microsoft. [21:21] DaemonFC I don't get the whole "rape" thing. Like, I hear it's about power and control, but then you get found out and you lose control of your life. Like, you get fired, or go to prison. [21:22] DaemonFC What part of losing control over your life and getting raped in prison puts you in control of your life? [21:22] XRevan86 MinceR: Or, even worse, the GCC cabal :). [21:22] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:23] XRevan86 BehemothOS/Linux [21:23] DaemonFC In August 2019, Soule was accused of rape by game designer Nathalie Lawhead.[37][38][39][40] He was also accused of sexual harassment by vocalist Aeralie Brighton.[41][42][43] He denied the accusations, with no charges being filed.[41] Materia Collective ended their work with Soule on his symphony The Northerner in response, and Soule's official social media pages were taken down.[44][45][46] Soule's music distribution platform DirectSong was [21:23] DaemonFC also seemingly taken offline around this time.[1] [21:23] DaemonFC No mention on wikipedia if he's still employed at Microsoft. [21:23] DaemonFC Is he? [21:23] DaemonFC Whether he is or isn't, I find it incredibly disturbing that he was not charged with any crimes. [21:24] DaemonFC That even if nobody wants to go near him now, he's sitting on a pile of copyright royalties that continue pouring in, and no doubt investment income as well. [21:25] DaemonFC And we all know how copyright _can_ work. Even if nobody will publish him under his own name, he could use a pseudonym that isn't associated with rape, and continue to profit. [21:25] DaemonFC Criminals figure out how to go on dodging the police and courts or subverting the intent of their punishment. [21:26] DaemonFC And that's what Soule is. He is an unindicted criminal. [21:26] DaemonFC Microsoft was already overflowing with those. [21:26] DaemonFC They buy companies that bring in yet more. [21:26] *techrights_guest|83 (~8a5e26f5@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [21:26] DaemonFC schestowitz, Still no charges in the Exelon bribery scandal. [21:27] *techrights_guest|83 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [21:27] DaemonFC Public Official A, former Illinois House Speaker Michael Madigan, continues being a free man, in his late 70s, extremely wealthy, just enjoying his retirement. [21:28] schestowitz DaemonFC: sorry, busy at the moment [21:28] schestowitz and this is off topic [21:28] schestowitz if it was about tech, maybe... [21:28] schestowitz if you highlight me, and it's moreover not on topic, I disregard [21:28] DaemonFC The electric company gets to do whatever it wants and say it's the law. [21:28] schestowitz we need to be focused [21:28] DaemonFC They should know what the law is. It's the most expensive thing they ever bought. [21:28] schestowitz I've just made an improvements to http://gemini.techrights.org/proxy?url=gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/05/epo-parcel-of-rogues/ [21:28] DaemonFC And that's where apps and smart meters come in. [21:28] TR Bot Gemini Proxy for Techrights [21:28] DaemonFC As well as overcharging. [21:28] schestowitz this applies so about 40k pages [21:29] schestowitz and they're presented like this with only one html5 (or html4) file [21:29] schestowitz input welcome [21:30] DaemonFC "Comed has modernized our branding." [21:30] DaemonFC Yes, that's what was wrong. Branding. Not bribery and choosing who is on the board that regulates you. [21:31] DaemonFC Well, even with using the space heater this year, AND electric costing more, Comed says we'll spend $36 less this month than last year. [21:32] DaemonFC *click click* I'm your baseboard heat. *click* I have a thermostat, but no matter what you set me to I'll burn you out of your apartment. *click* There went five bucks. [21:33] DaemonFC I totally disabled the baseboard heat. If it drops way too low at night I close the bedroom door and run a space heater in there. [21:38] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [21:38] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [21:44] *guysoft42 has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [21:54] schestowitz https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/768205/hp-envy-laptop-contant-freezecrash-os-non-specific/ [21:54] Alternative link Cloudflare: bleepingcomputer.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/768205/hp-envy-laptop-contant-freezecrash-os-non-specific/ [21:54] TR Bot HP Envy Laptop contant freeze/crash - OS non-specific - Internal Hardware [21:54] schestowitz oh, fun ● Feb 06 [22:08] *bnchs (~bnchs@p2bhvjq8kq6gs.irc) has joined #techrights [22:10] DaemonFC schestowitz, There's a class action lawsuit against HP. [22:10] DaemonFC The Envy laptops are so cheaply built that the entire enclosure starts coming apart. [22:10] MinceR https://hugelolcdn.com/i/748620.jpg [22:10] Alternative link Cloudflare: hugelolcdn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hugelolcdn.com/i/748620.jpg [22:11] MinceR their firmware is also cheaply built [22:11] MinceR and so are their printers [22:11] DaemonFC schestowitz, I got $85 in a class action settlement yesterday from some pet food company. [22:11] DaemonFC They made "misleading statements" about cat food. [22:11] DaemonFC I bought a Savings Bond with it. [22:12] DaemonFC There's absolutely no point in using your bank's long term savings products at this point. [22:12] DaemonFC At best, they pay 0.9% and you have to tie up your money for 5 years in a CD to get that. [22:12] schestowitz-TR that's how they prop up Wsll Street [22:12] DaemonFC Savings Bonds pay 7.12% and you could cash them out even with the penalty 11 months later, and still make 9 months interest. [22:12] schestowitz-TR to pretend an economy still exists and thrives [22:13] schestowitz-TR the wall street pyramic scheme now plunders the middle class [22:13] schestowitz-TR those with savings [22:13] schestowitz-TR wait for the next collapse [22:13] DaemonFC Yeah, the only way to save yourself is to loan some of your money you won't use for a while to the government. [22:13] schestowitz-TR this one will be truly epic [22:13] DaemonFC And let it accrue interest. [22:13] schestowitz-TR like people who 'invested ' "safely" in FB [22:13] DaemonFC Everything out there is shit. [22:14] DaemonFC And the stuff that was already shit is even shittier. [22:14] DaemonFC The S&P 500 used to be pretty safe as far as stocks went because there were real companies in it that were valued pretty accurately based on what they did, their revenue, their odds of growing and cutting expenses and stuff. [22:15] DaemonFC Now it's just "people in there yelling buy Apple you can't lose". [22:15] DaemonFC The Russell 2000 is an outright scam full of companies that will never make money, and are valued as if they do or if it's even possible. [22:16] DaemonFC I invest in stocks, but none of them are small and mid cap stocks. [22:16] DaemonFC Over the past 10 years or so, they have failed to outperform the large caps by all that much and there's a hell of a lot more risk, and who needs it. [22:17] bnchs i heard people say "you could turn that $85 to $8500 through investing" but i've never heard someone successfully doing that [22:17] DaemonFC Unfortunately, Merrill Lynch doesn't just let me put funds into like "S&P 500 by sector" or I'd be piling it all into commodities, not tech. [22:17] DaemonFC The last thing people will quit buying are food and energy. [22:18] DaemonFC Everything else is just highly speculative crap. [22:18] DaemonFC Apple is highly speculative crap. [22:18] DaemonFC Jim Cramer is Lehman Brothering his followers, 2.0, with Apple. [22:23] schestowitz https://www.ft.com/content/17bce6a9-dc91-4d46-80aa-e6168224554d [22:23] Alternative link Cloudflare: ft.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.ft.com/content/17bce6a9-dc91-4d46-80aa-e6168224554d [22:23] TR Bot Subscribe to read | Financial Times [22:24] schestowitz https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8695371/Stocks-tumble-tech-weakness-dollar-gains.html [22:24] Alternative link Cloudflare: dailymail.co.uk | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8695371/Stocks-tumble-tech-weakness-dollar-gains.html [22:24] TR Bot Apple loses $180 BILLION in value plunging 8% after Wall Street records its worst day since June | Daily Mail Online [22:24] MinceR you could turn that $85 to $0.85 through investing [22:25] schestowitz https://www.breakinglatest.news/business/apple-expects-supply-constraints-to-cause-6-billion-in-quarterly-losses-agency-lowers-its-mobile-phone-shipment-expectations-apple-apple/ [22:25] Alternative link Cloudflare: breakinglatest.news | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.breakinglatest.news/business/apple-expects-supply-constraints-to-cause-6-billion-in-quarterly-losses-agency-lowers-its-mobile-phone-shipment-expectations-apple-apple/ [22:25] TR Bot expects supply constraints to cause $6 billion in quarterly losses, agency lowers its mobile phone shipment expectations-Apple Apple-breakinglatest.news-Breaking Latest News [22:25] schestowitz https://www.breakinglatest.news/business/apple-expects-supply-constraints-to-cause-6-billion-in-quarterly-losses/ [22:25] Alternative link Cloudflare: breakinglatest.news | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.breakinglatest.news/business/apple-expects-supply-constraints-to-cause-6-billion-in-quarterly-losses/ [22:25] TR Bot expects supply constraints to cause $6 billion in quarterly losses-breakinglatest.news-Breaking Latest News [22:25] schestowitz there's yours $3,000,000 MILLION company [22:25] AdmFubar https://www.databreaches.net/yes-the-equifax-data-breach-settlement-email-and-website-are-real/ [22:25] Alternative link Cloudflare: databreaches.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.databreaches.net/yes-the-equifax-data-breach-settlement-email-and-website-are-real/ [22:25] TR Bot Yes, the Equifax data breach settlement email and website are real [22:25] schestowitz don't worry [22:25] schestowitz AdmFubar: can Brits apply too [22:25] schestowitz ? [22:26] schestowitz https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/apple/apple-ends-13-years-continuous-quarterly-growth-n562751 [22:26] TR Bot Apple Ends 13 Years of Continuous Quarterly Growth [22:26] schestowitz notice headline [22:26] schestowitz they downplayed this [22:26] schestowitz to keep the bubble going [22:26] AdmFubar don't know [22:26] schestowitz https://macprotricks.com/apples-first-quarterly-loss-since-steve-jobs-return/ [22:26] Alternative link Cloudflare: macprotricks.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://macprotricks.com/apples-first-quarterly-loss-since-steve-jobs-return/ [22:26] TR Bot Apples first quarterly loss since Steve Jobs return Mac Pro Tricks [22:27] schestowitz apple: we do great! [22:27] schestowitz (when we profit) [22:27] schestowitz apple: we don't always profit [22:27] schestowitz when we do, we boast [22:27] AdmFubar well apple announces end to 13 year growth [22:27] schestowitz otherwise, "no comment" [22:27] XRevan86 https://youtu.be/thOifuHs6eY Twitter/opensea managed to taint this video %). [22:27] TR Bot are the Bestagons - YouTube [22:27] schestowitz same for uber and tesla [22:28] schestowitz we are worth trillions!!!! [22:28] schestowitz sometimes we even make money! [22:28] schestowitz-TR nobody wants to be the first, [22:28] schestowitz-TR to say, [22:29] schestowitz-TR that the all Street emperor is naked [22:29] schestowitz-TR companies "valued" like 10 times more than they are wortha [22:29] schestowitz-TR and some are worse than worthless [22:29] schestowitz-TR they are financial liabilities [22:29] schestowitz-TR theiir very existence burns money [22:29] schestowitz-TR the money of middle class savings [22:29] schestowitz-TR this will not end well [22:30] schestowitz-TR Biden: it's OK, I shall raise the debt roof like the OTHER Donald [22:30] AdmFubar it will be 1929 all over again real soon [22:30] schestowitz-TR Biden goes write big check [22:30] schestowitz-TR 9 trillion for corporations and uncle bill [22:30] schestowitz-TR 1 trillion for the rest [22:30] schestowitz-TR "there, I saved the economy" [22:30] schestowitz-TR "9 for me, one for you.." [22:30] schestowitz-TR Wall Street rises sharply again, thank ou Biden! [22:31] psydroid4 I'm not even sure what the economy is and what the goals of said economy are [22:31] schestowitz-TR *you [22:31] schestowitz-TR AdmFubar: for many people it already is [22:31] schestowitz-TR but they are not here in IRC [22:31] psydroid4 it all looks like a lot of hot air without any substance [22:31] schestowitz-TR it's hard to get an ethernet modem inside a tent or a car [22:32] schestowitz-TR today I read about people having the contigency of living in a garden shack [22:32] schestowitz-TR made of plastic [22:33] AdmFubar I use to live in an old shoe box in the middle of the road... [22:38] DaemonFC https://www.npr.org/2022/02/06/1078670229/us-says-russia-has-three-quarters-of-forces-for-ukraine-invasion [22:38] Alternative link Cloudflare: npr.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.npr.org/2022/02/06/1078670229/us-says-russia-has-three-quarters-of-forces-for-ukraine-invasion [22:38] TR Bot A Russian invasion of Ukraine could lead to mass causalities, officials say : NPR [22:38] DaemonFC It's possible that the reason 10,000 US troops are in Poland is to prevent anyone from escaping Ukraine during the invasion. [22:39] DaemonFC 10,000 US troops isn't enough to turn the tide of an invasion with 175,000 enemy troops. [22:39] DaemonFC But it is enough to guard the border of NATO countries and prevent refugees from getting over them. [22:40] DaemonFC "My mom doesn't believe in vaccines, and when I found out about the "Backfire Effect" in psychiatry, it became apparent that trying to convince her otherwise was just causing her to dig in because of this effect. Being proven wrong literally "hurts" and people dig in. One of the examples they used was literally if you told people flu shots are safe (they are), they become more skeptical of the flu shot than they were before." [22:40] DaemonFC I don't like to be wrong, but I like it when people prove me wrong by pointing at actual information, good information, evidence, that does so. [22:41] DaemonFC That way I don't have to continue being wrong and possibly doing a great deal of harm to myself. [22:41] DaemonFC People on the left can be just as dogmatic and stupid as an anti-vaxxer. Especially with social causes. [22:42] DaemonFC When all of the evidence points to something else, just throw out the evidence. [22:42] DaemonFC Don't like crime statistics? Don't look at them. Accuse math of being racist. Get MAD! [22:42] DaemonFC Make life rue the day it thought it could give YOU facts! [22:43] DaemonFC Demand to speak to life's manager! Don't you know who I am? I'm the guy who's gonna burn your house down, with the facts! [22:43] DaemonFC (Portal 2, you know, with the cancer and the lemons.....) [22:43] AdmFubar wow whoda thunk war could lead to casualties... [22:43] DaemonFC I loved that game because of things like that. [22:43] DaemonFC That few paragraphs of dialogue was perfect. People being angry about facts and situations that they have absolutely no control over. [22:44] MinceR (cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/reddit-different-color-things-6.jpg [22:44] Alternative link Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/reddit-different-color-things-6.jpg [22:45] DaemonFC MinceR, Wheatley was supposed to be the "biggest moron ever conceived" according to GlaDOS, to distract her from hatching anything truly diabolical. [22:45] DaemonFC But before he got plugged into the control chair, he actually had a lot of good ideas. [22:45] DaemonFC Like, how to cause the turret production line to pump out ones that couldn't shoot at you. [22:45] AdmFubar halo has lost it's halo https://www.windowscentral.com/halo-infinites-player-retention-sharply-declining-why [22:45] Alternative link Cloudflare: windowscentral.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.windowscentral.com/halo-infinites-player-retention-sharply-declining-why [22:45] TR Bot Halo Infinite's player retention is sharply declining, but why? | Windows Central [22:46] MinceR it never deserved one [22:46] MinceR it was always an FPS for consoles [22:46] *inky_ has quit (Quit: IRC for Sailfish 0.9) [22:46] DaemonFC And when he couldn't get the doors to open to help Chell escape the Extended Relaxation Center, he just used her cubical room as a battering ram and broke down the door. [22:47] *inky_ (~inky@46.36.118.112) has joined #techrights [22:47] MinceR there was probably a better solution for that [22:47] DaemonFC And he turned GlaDOS into a non-threat (by all rights) by plugging her into a potato battery so that she wouldn't have her consciousness terminated, but she couldn't do anything. [22:48] DaemonFC there was probably a better solution for that [22:48] DaemonFC There didn't need to be any better solution for that. [22:48] DaemonFC All of the other test subjects were dead, all of the scientists were murdered by GlaDOS possibly hundreds of years ago, and he was trying to help Chell escape. [22:49] MinceR and he risked Chell's life instead of figuring out a sane method [22:49] DaemonFC That was expedient and damage to the facility obviously doesn't matter anymore. [22:49] DaemonFC He did tell her to hold onto something. [22:50] DaemonFC So, I mean, he's of at least average intelligence, maybe a little better. [22:51] MinceR that's possible [22:51] MinceR considering how blisteringly stupid the average human is [22:51] DaemonFC When he took over the control chair, he wasn't smart enough to design good test chambers, so he started smashing together ones that GlaDOS was in the process of designing, and he accidentally created a new model of weighted companion cube that was half turret that crawled around whining in pain. [22:52] DaemonFC And he couldn't stop the reactor from failing, so he silenced the alarm and told Chell to keep testing. [22:52] DaemonFC All signs point to Wheatley having an IQ of about 100-110. [22:53] DaemonFC The control chair made him worse because it compelled him to have no other priority except testing people. GlaDOS essentially explained that forcing people to test and then watching them complete a test was rewarded by the control chair with something like an orgasm. [22:53] DaemonFC While if they didn't test, it caused pain. [22:54] DaemonFC So, the control chair was at least partially responsible for making Wheatley so stupid, because he literally could not think about anything but testing at that point, on top of only having an average IQ to begin with. [22:55] DaemonFC GlaDOS was also in a much better mood, and much nicer, while she was in the potato battery. [22:56] DaemonFC That's what made the comedy work so well, with Wheatley. Once he was in the chair he wasn't just an idiot (compared with GlaDOS), but he was a megalomaniac with real power, and the ability to truly fuck something up. [22:56] DaemonFC It's like after Trump became the President. ● Feb 06 [23:00] DaemonFC MinceR, Google misunderstood me when I asked what life was like in 1960 and told me about 1900 instead. [23:00] DaemonFC It said that most households got by on $3,000 in today's dollars, and didn't have a car, electricity, or indoor plumbing. [23:01] DaemonFC Of course that's a pretty hard life. And conservatives point to things like this instead of acknowledging that things have improved, _but_ there still is the widest gap ever between the rich and the poor. [23:01] DaemonFC The government makes life harder though. [23:01] DaemonFC When mom lived with Gonad the Barbarian, he had a second lot with another house on it. [23:01] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [23:02] DaemonFC Nobody had lived in the house in MANY decades, and he was using it as a garage. It had no plumbing, it had no electricity, it was in very bad condition. [23:03] DaemonFC The property tax department of the county sent him out a bill saying they appraised it at $96,000 in value and that's what they were basing his taxes on to have a second lot with a junk house that nobody could possibly improve and live in. [23:03] DaemonFC They assess based on what they want to spend, not what the place is actually worth. [23:04] DaemonFC So the tax bill's "valuation" is a fantasy document they use to get the amount of tax they want out of you. You couldn't ever sell it for that. [23:04] *psydroid4 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:05] DaemonFC Having the house there was worse than having an empty lot because if someone bought it for the lot, they would incur the additional expense of having to knock down the house first. [23:06] schestowitz-TR [22:45] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- www.windowscentral.com | Halo Infinite's player retention is sharply declining, but why? | Windows Central [23:06] schestowitz-TR the US population got tired of shooting things on a computer [23:06] DaemonFC So the whole thing will just sit there until it falls over one day. Hopefully not on top of anyone. [23:06] schestowitz-TR so it got together rand took on the capitol [23:06] XRevan86 activelow: Your train of thought is really confusing me, your complaint is not even that Linux needs GCC extensions (Clang supports many of them), but that Linux is written with a C standard in mind that is newer than C99, and that is horrible because both advanced C compilers are written in C++, and that's horrible because C++ is lame? [23:06] schestowitz-TR US army: Microsoft, we will GIVE YOU anything, just keep those people shooting polygons [23:07] schestowitz-TR the US army uses taxpayers' money to fund violent compuiter games [23:07] schestowitz-TR Josh is homeless [23:07] schestowitz-TR John lives in his c ar [23:07] XRevan86 And by the way, GCC is meant to be bootstrapped by GCC. [23:07] schestowitz-TR Josha nd John are happy the gvernment subsidises Call of Duty [23:07] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, John probably is living in his car. [23:07] DaemonFC :) [23:08] DaemonFC He was frantically trying to get me to turn it over to him so he could sell it and square things up with the finance people. [23:08] DaemonFC I decided to let it bleed him. [23:08] XRevan86 activelow: That's quite a rabbit-hole just from distaste for C++. [23:08] schestowitz-TR [23:00] MinceR, Google misunderstood me when I asked what life was like in 1960 and told me about 1900 instead. [23:08] schestowitz-TR households had a single proivider typically [23:08] psydroid8 isn't the whole gaming industry more like a distraction from things that actually matter? [23:09] schestowitz-TR and with baby boomers there qwere about 3 kids in US and Europe [23:09] schestowitz-TR so one person could cover 5 [23:09] schestowitz-TR also, it was possible to keep the same jobs for decade or entire career [23:09] schestowitz-TR psydroid8: you would not be the first to surmise [23:09] MinceR having fun in one's life matters [23:10] schestowitz-TR MinceR: so take narcotics ;-0) [23:10] schestowitz-TR games are a temporary kick [23:10] DaemonFC Yeah, things kind of peaked in the 1960s. [23:10] schestowitz-TR that has consequences [23:10] schestowitz-TR in s korea and china they battle game addiction [23:10] MinceR lol [23:10] DaemonFC Then those damned Arabs in the 70s knocked everything over with the oil embargoes. [23:10] schestowitz-TR which can be just as bad as Internet addirection and now we have social control media addicts [23:10] MinceR in west taiwan they battle things that do not exist [23:11] MinceR same as in orbanistan and putinistan [23:11] XRevan86 activelow: And Linux has been targeting GCC only for decades, and no one cared about "compiler vendor lock-in". Now when Linux supports two bloody compilers instead of one, there's vendor lock-in. [23:11] DaemonFC China is basically rigging the Olympics. [23:11] MinceR no one should care about the "olympics" held by red china [23:11] XRevan86 Who's the vendor? Big Compiler? [23:11] DaemonFC They run "tests" and disqualify athletes that can easily beat them by saying the test was positive for COVID. [23:12] DaemonFC Then they'll deny that any Chinese people have it. [23:12] DaemonFC And then China gets all the medals. [23:12] DaemonFC Communism, everybody. [23:12] MinceR authoritarians trying to use sport as a means to validate their regimes [23:12] MinceR ancient business [23:12] schestowitz-TR ussr had training camps for romanian gymnasts [23:13] schestowitz-TR "win" for communism [23:13] schestowitz-TR MinceR: chess also [23:13] MinceR do people still care about humans playing chess? [23:13] MinceR computers have been better at it for ages [23:13] DaemonFC https://i.redd.it/hsbeadj1t8g81.jpg [23:14] MinceR nice [23:14] schestowitz-TR hahahahaha [23:14] schestowitz-TR nice one [23:15] activelow XRevan86: yes [23:16] schestowitz-TR FFII did somehting similar [23:16] schestowitz-TR re sofwtare patents in Europe [23:16] activelow because: version bumps of required compiler versions, more excessive use of GNU extensions and C11 features [23:16] XRevan86 activelow: 1991 was a dark year for Linux [23:17] XRevan86 The worst practices started then, it was all downhill from there. [23:17] DaemonFC Now I'm getting text messaging spam from that Jerry app about how they can "help" me cancel my current policy that costs less and get a company that doesn't pay claims. [23:17] DaemonFC ROFL [23:17] activelow furthermore, both llvm/clang and >gcc-4.8 are c++ compilers (written in c++), which means linux kernel _indirectly_ depends on the presence of c++, which it didn't for a very long time [23:17] XRevan86 activelow: And that means? [23:17] activelow vendor-lock [23:17] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:18] activelow agressively [23:18] XRevan86 activelow: Who's the vendor? ISO? [23:18] activelow very good question, who was responsible [23:18] activelow furthemore, besides kernel, other components are affected [23:18] activelow including GCC [23:18] MinceR sounds more like language lock [23:18] XRevan86 Also "indirectly" means that one is more than welcome to make a competing compiler written in Pascal or whatever, if one is up to the challenge. [23:19] activelow the language issue is the method, the result is vendor-lock [23:19] MinceR ironically, to a language that is better suited for large projects and hated by Torvalds [23:19] activelow however, i do not known whom i should rant at [23:19] activelow the language was the utility to lock into specific compiler-vendors and versions, otherwise c++ does not belong into base system components [23:19] XRevan86 activelow: It was probably Satan himself, try writing him an angry letter. [23:19] activelow and this was the status for a very long time [23:21] XRevan86 GCC is a very good compiler, so I'm assuming that the decision they've made was beneficial to them. [23:21] activelow XRevan86: which version are you referring to? [23:21] XRevan86 activelow: ~6+ [23:21] activelow then go for it, i won't [23:22] activelow howevery, linux kernel and u-boot prevent me from dropping it; removed c++ from userspace already to compile this with tcc at least [23:22] activelow and downgraded to gcc-4.7 otherwise, and will downgrade this further [23:22] XRevan86 "the language was the utility to lock into specific compiler-vendors and versions" <- There's circular logic here. [23:22] activelow it isn't [23:23] XRevan86 How is the language a lock utility, if only the compiler itself is written in it? [23:23] activelow and the chosen language (c++) wasn't the only method, besides various extensions and introduction/utilization C11 standard features (to name one, _generic macro which is ludicrous) [23:23] XRevan86 GCC could've been written in its own GccLang and it wouldn't've made a darn difference. [23:24] activelow because, if anything is written in a particular language with specific language features, then a compiler of a specific version is required, and all else are excluded [23:24] XRevan86 So C is bad? [23:24] activelow which C variant? which compiler? short answer: C99 was broadly compatible, as far as the language and compiler support was concerned, _was_, that's past. [23:25] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techrights [23:25] XRevan86 Why not C89? That thing was dirt-simple. [23:25] XRevan86 C99 only brought sophistication and complexity to the mix. [23:26] XRevan86 (and some reasonable deprecations) [23:26] activelow good question, linux kernel was relatively conservative with this, although i may be in error here [23:26] XRevan86 activelow: So why not go deeper? Just because TinyCC stopped at C99? [23:26] activelow recently i stumbled upon C11 _generic inside kernel, have fun, i'll not comment on this anymore [23:26] activelow XRevan86: tinycc did NOT stop at C99, it too implemented gnu extensions and some C11 (just citing here, haven't got a full overview) [23:27] activelow all i know, tinycc cannot compile GCC anymore (because gcc is written in c++ since v4.8), and the battle at the kernel frontline is almost entirely lost too already (last verification was kernel-4.6 for x86_64) [23:27] XRevan86 Wouldn't be surprised if before that Linux used a GCC extension to achieve compile-time expression control. [23:28] XRevan86 Why does GCC need to be compiled by TinyCC? [23:29] activelow it doesn't. what's necessary is a clean bootstrap procedure for gcc, and tcc cannot accomplish this anymore with recent GCC versions [23:29] XRevan86 A clean bootstrap procedure starts with a pre-built TinyCC binary. [23:30] XRevan86 When it's a pre-built GCC binary, it's tainted then. Thanks, Satan. [23:32] activelow tinycc won't be helpful anymore, because gcc is written in c++ [23:32] *XRevan86 feels like his very simple point got ignored. [23:33] schestowitz-TR :) [23:33] XRevan86 activelow: Who's going to build mr. helpful tinycc? [23:33] psydroid8 we'll have to go back to very basic manually constructed assembler, linker and compiler binaries [23:34] MinceR quis aedificat ipsos aedificantes? [23:34] psydroid8 to make Mr. Thompson proud [23:34] activelow this is what tinycc accomplished partially, however, try for yourself, to compile any recent gcc or linux kernel or u-boot loader with it [23:34] XRevan86 schestowitz: We have an actual package maintainer who is involved in some fairly low-level stuff in here. I hope she doesn't see all this preschool stuff. [23:35] activelow good luck; and if it wasn't tcc, then i welcome any suggestions [23:35] psydroid8 magister in excelsis [23:35] XRevan86 activelow: Accomplished what? [23:36] activelow tinycc was/still is this: tiny; even if you didn't trust the binary, there was a chance remaining to disassemble this [23:37] XRevan86 activelow: Do ye know how GCC is built in real life? 1. take a pre-existing built GCC; 2. build GCC with it; 3. build GCC with the previous build for reproducibility. [23:37] XRevan86 Do ye know how TinyCC is built in real life? 1. take GCC; 2. build TinyCC with GCC. [23:37] activelow the bootstrapping procedure which GNU guix documented for gcc-2.7 (2.8, not sure anymore), relied upon on a binary bundle of dozens of megs; [23:37] activelow i wouldn't want to ever consider disassembling this, leave alone any recent toolchain bundle [23:37] XRevan86 But if distributions actually used TinyCC as a primary compiler, it would've been built like GCC is built. [23:39] XRevan86 activelow: I don't think ye understand: TinyCC is written in a high-level language too. [23:39] activelow besides the bootstrapping question. tinycc itself has very desireable qualities: compilation of itself and compiling anyting else with it is very fast, roughly 10x faster, far closer to the "sweet spot", of the trad-off between compile-time/optimization and run-time performance [23:39] XRevan86 activelow: Your bootstrapping argument is invalid. [23:39] activelow XRevan86: i know, however i doubt anyone on earth could implement a compiler written in ASM which could compile anything relevant to GNU/Linux etc. [23:40] DaemonFC https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/02/06/credit-monitoring-services-are-mostly-a-scam/ [23:40] TR Bot Credit Monitoring services are mostly a scam. BaronHK's Rants [23:40] XRevan86 activelow: It doesn't matter if they do or not, TinyCC is not needed in the equation at all, never was, never will be. [23:40] activelow XRevan86: tinycc "only" improves upon the trouble surrounding bootstrapping, it doesn't solve it. [23:41] activelow insofar, yes, this is what some GCC dev argued more or less upfront, which is moot to discuss any further, because any recent gcc compiler couldn't be bootstrapped with tcc anymore anyway [23:42] XRevan86 Even if it could, it wouldn't, because that would be adding additional steps, not removing them. [23:42] activelow same with linux kernel (v5.10LTS), which i see little hope for anymore, that it could be compiled, for aarch64 bare-metal [23:43] activelow XRevan86: ? [23:44] activelow https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/tinycc-devel/2005-09/msg00054.html [23:44] TR Bot [Tinycc-devel] GCC by TCC (some fixes) [23:44] activelow XRevan86: which "additional steps"? [23:44] XRevan86 activelow: Suppose the distribution stashes the previous version of the compiler to build the next one, with TinyCC added to the mix it would be one more package added to the base system for no additional benefit. [23:45] activelow agreed. however, i do not trust any of the "previous versions" neither [23:45] activelow besides, tcc is fast, very fast [23:46] XRevan86 The compilation is 3-stage in order to get the latest version built with the latest version. [23:46] MinceR you could try bootstrapping an older GCC with TCC, then bootstrapping a newer GCC with that GCC (possibly with more versions of GCC in between) [23:46] activelow already did [23:47] activelow however, linux kernel is a show-stopper here [23:47] XRevan86 MinceR: Won't do any good, when C++ is introduced, Satan curses the compiler. [23:47] MinceR lol [23:48] psydroid8 Satan is the Big Compiler [23:48] activelow i cannot downgrade to kernel-2.4 or kernel-4.6, because of vendor-locks on the hardware side; besides even those kernel versions require extensive review and patching for aarch32 or anything those could support [23:48] activelow alot of effort, with a high chance of total failure [23:48] MinceR you could use a new GCC bootstrapped via TCC (and possibly older GCC versions) to compile the kernel [23:49] activelow yes, but i don't want to, because tcc can compile linux kernel in ~10s, gcc requires 30minutes to accomplish the same [23:49] XRevan86 activelow: "a lot of effort, with a high chance of total failure" <- Hasn't stopped you before. [23:49] MinceR doesn't GCC result in a kernel binary that runs faster though? [23:49] XRevan86 activelow: And the metric is that 2018 video with a stripped down kernel? [23:50] activelow MinceR: good question. there is a trade-off again: compile-time and run-time performance [23:50] XRevan86 MinceR: That's not a question, that's an accurate statement. [23:50] activelow besides, runtime-performance isn't the only criteria; if a stable and reliable and *fast* compiler outweighs some other criteria, such as a minor runtime performance boost [23:50] XRevan86 MinceR: I measured TinyCC performance when activelow only started mentioning it. [23:51] XRevan86 It's as bad as one can imagine. [23:51] XRevan86 -O0 the compiler [23:51] XRevan86 "good question" <- activelow has forgotten then. [23:51] activelow yet, tcc can optimize slightly, and is ~10x faster compile-time, besides other potential benefits [23:51] XRevan86 "minor" <- no. [23:52] XRevan86 activelow: Try to disable any optimisations that GCC has and then measure compile-time. [23:52] XRevan86 It will be very different. [23:53] activelow XRevan86: minor note, tinycc does support arm-hardfloat target, for those code-paths where this could be relevant [23:53] XRevan86 Good to know? [23:54] activelow well, hardfloat can make a huge difference, in comparison to both software floating point, and softfp which add some overhead; insofar i am not too pessimistic about runtime performance here [23:54] psydroid8 What are the pros and cons of using C++ to write a compiler instead of C? [23:54] *Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer) [23:55] XRevan86 activelow: I was comparing on x86 regardless. [23:55] MinceR namespaces (and eventually modules) make larger codebases more manageable, STL allows for less painful management of data [23:55] activelow psydroid8: better to ask, what are the pros and cons of using C++ to write a C-compiler instead of C? [23:55] MinceR strings, STL and smart pointers help avoid security issues [23:56] activelow tcc implemented some bounds-checker, i'll skip this initially [23:56] activelow furthermore, if a compiler consists of ~30K LoC, such a project should remain rather manageable, by the nature of it [23:59] XRevan86 https://gcc.gnu.org/legacy-ml/gcc/2010-05/msg00705.html Here's the initial accouncement, but it doesn't actually talk about what they found important in C++. [23:59] TR Bot Mark Mitchell - Using C++ in GCC is OK