●● IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Sunday, June 06, 2021 ●● ● Jun 06 [00:00] baronhk1[m] MinceR: That one got freed from Skynet by being a relic from a deleted timeline. [00:00] baronhk1[m] The first rule of its programming, do whatever Skynet says. [00:00] baronhk1[m] Skynet no longer exists, can't say anything. It no longer has to do what Skynet says. [00:04] baronhk1[m] However, it said it felt guilty for killing John Connor after that directive no longer applied and it started thinking for itself. So it gave Sarah Connor the coordinates where other terminators would appear. [00:04] baronhk1[m] But they would have been freed as well, right? [00:04] baronhk1[m] If there was a directive to repair the timeline, he would have had to implement the directive as soon as he became aware Skynet didn't exist. [00:05] baronhk1[m] Seems like a pretty big plot hole. What kind of malignant AI super intelligence that knows that the Resistance uses time travel doesn't plan for these things and create a directive for a Skynet creation paradox? [00:06] MinceR :> [00:07] techrights-bot This Week in Linux 154: #openSUSE , Blender, OBS Studio 27, Kali Linux, Amazon Sidewalk, #Firefox 89 TuxDigital https://tuxdigital.com/2021/06/thisweekinlinux-154/ #TuxDigital #GNU #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/06/#latest [00:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-154: openSUSE, Blender, OBS Studio 27, Kali Linux, Amazon Sidewalk, Firefox 89 | This Week in Linux - TuxDigital [00:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Index of /2021/06/06/ [00:08] *asusbox2 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [00:08] *asusbox2 (~rianne@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:99f:dc46:7836:ed0a) has joined #techrights [00:09] techrights-bot Can we still call some people "slaves" of a company or say they are "enslaved" by some company or would the word/s be considered offensive to the point of bollocking? Or disciplinary actions/bans? [00:11] MinceR that's easy to answer [00:11] MinceR words hurt people, actions don't [00:11] MinceR so companies can enslave anyone and you're not allowed to talk about it [00:11] *birkoff has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in) [00:12] baronhk1[m] The companies Matthew Garrett works for use slaves in China where they have to put suicide nets in the factories. Their software is created to spy on people and have them kidnapped and tortured. [00:13] baronhk1[m] He isn't a FOSS activist, but he plays one on Twitter. [00:13] baronhk1[m] Then he bashes me for saying tranny farm in Colorado. [00:13] baronhk1[m] He would never post this entire block in its entire original form and reply to it. [00:14] MinceR one of them also censored the "tank man" photo recently for the whole world [00:14] MinceR giving us a taste of totalitarianism, which they surely mean to subject is all to [00:15] baronhk1[m] It was a "mistake" to subject us all to the requirements of the Communist Party of China so obviously. [00:15] baronhk1[m] They usually like to do those things out in California by having the Communists censor our movies and stuff. [00:15] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] baronhk1[m]: They're not slaves, they're just differently/alternatively free. [00:16] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] free-atypical if ye will [00:16] baronhk1[m] There's no telling how the algorithms of a search engine work so we have no idea how often they manipulate them to appease Chinese Communists, but I'd wager that Bing and Google do it quite a lot. [00:16] baronhk1[m] Even in other "markets". [00:17] kingoffrance no no no wagephobic [00:17] MinceR s/t is/t us/ [00:17] baronhk1[m] Censoring tank man was too obvious. Usually, they probably just bury the stories about how the US federal government was directly funding the Chinese superlab that created or at least lost containment of COVID-19. [00:18] baronhk1[m] Garrett participated. [00:19] baronhk1[m] Under the baseline federal budget that went to "healthcare", the agency that employs Fauci was giving the Chinese superlab about $75,000 in US taxpayer money to study coronaviruses every year. [00:19] baronhk1[m] :) [00:19] MinceR amazon's move was more obvious [00:19] kingoffrance baronhk1[m], they didnt like bruce lee, although that tries to get rewritten [00:20] MinceR https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/amazon-offers-replace-orwell-books-kindles/story?id=8498168 [00:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-abcnews.go.com | Amazon offers to replace Orwell books on Kindles - ABC News [00:20] baronhk1[m] They likely just modified another SARS-like virus to make it more usable as a way of exterminating the elderly and helping megacorporations that support the Chinese Communist Party become more powerful. [00:20] baronhk1[m] Then they released it and the other world governments pretended to be surprised. [00:20] baronhk1[m] It did most of the damage it was designed to do. Time for it to go away. [00:21] baronhk1[m] Permanently destroyed freedom, wiped out entire nursing homes getting them off Social Security, killed small businesses that tend to be owned by conservatives. [00:21] baronhk1[m] Led to the political downfall of the first US president that was annoying them in a while. [00:21] MinceR they don't seem to be against "conservatives" in general [00:22] MinceR fidSS is trying hard to help the CPC spread its influence [00:22] MinceR and they're spending my money to make it happen [00:23] baronhk1[m] Matthew Garrett is a troll that essentially promotes repressive thug governments of various sorts. But the Chinese Communists are one of them. [00:23] baronhk1[m] His software makes life easier for them, not individuals. [00:24] MinceR i guess all the slave labor didn't help red china amass enough money that they could pay for their own university in budapest, where all staff and all students are required to be loyal to the CPC [00:24] kingoffrance MinceR, fake right-wing stuff is historically leninism and some argue perestroika [00:24] MinceR well yeah, the part that matters is authoritarianism [00:24] MinceR and that is incredibly popular nowadays [00:24] kingoffrance "left wing communism: an infantile disorder" it was a deliberate tactic [00:24] kingoffrance but that doesnt fit into left/right paradigm [00:25] kingoffrance so down the memory hole [00:25] tr-bridge [Ariadne/tr] what does any of this have to do with tech rights ? [00:25] MinceR the connection to one of the greatest enemies of the IT industry: microsoft. [00:27] baronhk1[m] If you follow what Garrett says, it's very obvious he's a Microsoft troll who promotes WSL and says the only way to have secure computing is with Microsoft signing EXEs in your boot bath. [00:27] baronhk1[m] *path [00:28] kingoffrance its no different than EEE [00:29] tr-bridge [Ariadne/tr] the only way to have secure computing is to throw x86 in the bin [00:29] tr-bridge [Ariadne/tr] x86 is hopelessly broken when it comes to security [00:30] MinceR throwing x86 out isn't going to be enough [00:30] tr-bridge [Ariadne/tr] no but it is a critical step [00:31] tr-bridge [Ariadne/tr] x86 is not just hopelessly broken re: security, but comes with malware baked into the CPU now (AMD PSP, Intel ME) [00:31] CrystalMath unfortunately [00:31] techrights-bot This is a belated #EPO puff piece getting reproduced by a #plagiarism site https://enterprisetalk.com/news/european-inventor-award-2021-meet-some-of-todays-most-inspiring-innovators-at-digital-event-on-17-june-and-vote-online-for-your-favorite-inventor/ see http://techrights.org/2021/05/04/epo-eia-hush-money/ [00:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisetalk.com | European Inventor Award 2021: Meet Some of Todays Most Inspiring [00:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO Already Wasting Money on Media Manipulation Campaigns for European Inventor Award | Techrights [00:31] MinceR is TrustZone better though? [00:31] CrystalMath right, ARM also sucsk [00:31] CrystalMath *sucks [00:31] CrystalMath but maybe RISC-V [00:31] MinceR yeah, if we can make it fabbed where they don't put backdoors into them [00:32] CrystalMath there's some librebooted opteron machine [00:32] CrystalMath that's probably the most secure thing in the world right now (for individuals) [00:32] techrights-bot #epo granting bad #patents but you need to pay huge court fees to get justice https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/cases/melitta-and-krieger-mes-fend-off-vacuum-cleaner-filter-lawsuits/ [00:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.juve-patent.com | Melitta and Krieger Mes fend off vacuum cleaner filter lawsuits - JUVE Patent [00:32] CrystalMath it's AMD so no issue with meltdown [00:33] kingoffrance someone told me lisp will never be secure, because if code is data it cant be signed [00:33] CrystalMath lol [00:33] MinceR lol [00:33] kingoffrance i thought that was a feature not a bug [00:33] kingoffrance it will sail right through the locks lol [00:33] kingoffrance who woulda thunk lol [00:33] *asusbox (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [00:34] kingoffrance lisp, keeping it low level reflective [00:34] MinceR yeah, i guess the uefi/tpm/tc tards are going to fight tooth and nail against liso [00:34] MinceR s/liso/lisp/ [00:34] techrights-bot These #patents are bunk, but the #law firms make money even when their clients pursue patently #fakepatents https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/how-to-patent-software-and-computer-8673081/ #swpats [00:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How To Patent Software And Computer-Implemented Business Methods In The US And Abroad | Fox Rothschild LLP - JDSupra [00:34] kingoffrance err, if data is code and vice versa [00:36] tr-bridge [Ariadne/tr] loongarch64 looks interesting [00:36] *birkoff (birkoff@gateway/shell/ircnow/x-sxrldgzoftmowsth) has joined #techrights [00:36] *birkoff has quit (Changing host) [00:36] *birkoff (birkoff@unaffiliated/birkoff) has joined #techrights [00:36] *birkoff has quit (Changing host) [00:36] *birkoff (birkoff@gateway/shell/ircnow/x-sxrldgzoftmowsth) has joined #techrights [00:37] *asusbox2 has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [00:38] schestowitz [00:31] right, ARM also sucsk [00:38] schestowitz NVIDIA would make it worse, for sure [00:38] schestowitz on the basis on freedom at least [00:38] schestowitz NVIDIA found it could make money without respecting the customer much [00:38] schestowitz or just paying lip service [00:39] schestowitz RISC-V has promise and India as well as China develop designed based on "open" ISAs [00:39] schestowitz so we'll see what comes out of there [00:39] schestowitz India isn't in 5-EYES [00:39] schestowitz or 6 EYES now that Japan informally joined [00:40] schestowitz China was always in the shadows regardless because it typically manufactures from designs [00:40] schestowitz and some accused them of not following those designs and adding BIOS back doors [00:40] schestowitz ~2014 [00:40] schestowitz chips have become far to complex to study [00:41] schestowitz even the designs alone, not your fabricated dime of silicon [00:41] schestowitz raspi has something interesting now, "silicon" they call it... after apple, for 1 dollar or pound per chip [00:41] schestowitz they sell it in reels! [00:41] kingoffrance https://www.qwantz.com/index.php?comic=2406 yes this is an old comic [00:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.qwantz.com | Dinosaur Comics - April 17th, 2013 - awesome fun times! [00:42] schestowitz https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/the-journey-to-raspberry-silicon/ [00:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.raspberrypi.org | The journey to Raspberry Silicon - Raspberry Pi [00:42] schestowitz https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-rp2040-on-sale/ [00:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.raspberrypi.org | Raspberry Silicon update: RP2040 on sale now at $1 - Raspberry Pi [00:42] schestowitz "Based on this experience, weve decided to pull about 40,000 units of RP2040 out of the supply chain and boot up single-unit sales via our Approved Resellers, roughly three months earlier than wed intended. This will give people time to develop their projects and products, while we clear out the rest of the Pico backlog and scale up production of RP2040. In the autumn well have some serious volume available for anyone who [00:42] schestowitz needs it." [00:42] schestowitz 40,000 :-D [00:44] MinceR > 264KB of RAM [00:44] MinceR i wonder how are they going to fit microsoft malware on those [00:44] MinceR should have thought it through... [00:44] schestowitz one laptop per bytes [00:45] schestowitz iirc, netbsd has a very lower total size [00:45] schestowitz but you can also fit a modern but reduced linux to a floppy disk size [00:46] schestowitz which comes to show how base linux became bloated but possible to be-fat, not just deblob [00:46] schestowitz maybe there should be micro-gnu/libre [00:46] schestowitz 1 MB kernel without blobs [00:46] schestowitz with a very solid core [00:46] kingoffrance there's 16-bit stuff but you probably dont want to go there [00:46] schestowitz you can then add the few drivers you need for it [00:47] schestowitz 10 bit, 1k addressing [00:47] baronhk1[m] It would be nice if they could port Linux drivers over to Haiku some more. [00:47] schestowitz 2^6=32? [00:47] schestowitz so 32k of ram? [00:47] baronhk1[m] At least they don't have anything as crazy as systemd over there. [00:48] kingoffrance yes, what little ive seen of haiku booted nice and snappy on usb flash on ancient system [00:48] schestowitz wait, 64 [00:48] schestowitz should be enough for everyone :-) [00:48] schestowitz divided by 2 [00:49] MinceR afaik they already took control of the boot process away from a script in haiku [00:49] baronhk1[m] It was meant to work on small computers. I saw a demo of BeOS in the late 90s and thought for sure it would catch on. It was illegal Microsoft deals that killed it. Like the ones that Matthew Garrett bashes me for exposing throughout the past 20 years. [00:49] schestowitz haiku is interesting and it has the Web browser I now use [00:49] kingoffrance yes, there was court settlment IIRC [00:49] baronhk1[m] Even after the whole antitrust thing played out and DoJ said they didn't need monitored anymore. [00:49] schestowitz devices get smaller all the time [00:49] schestowitz why can't the OSes also? [00:49] kingoffrance believe it mightve been one of those settled out of court, undisclosed amount, dont admit guilt things [00:49] schestowitz like moving from server OSes that are a kitchen sink+ to something like apline? [00:50] MinceR because bloated NSA backdoors are difficult to hide in small OSes :> [00:50] MinceR also because everyone has to run a whole gnome DE at the login prompt [00:50] schestowitz Ariadne managed to reduce our IRC container to just about 6 Linux processes [00:50] baronhk1[m] Reading Garret brag about himself is really just reading about how terrible a programmer he is. [00:51] baronhk1[m] Grabbing hold of any half baked solutions that are unlikely to work for long he can and tying them together then leaving the company before anyone finds out. [00:51] schestowitz ircd:/# ps aux|wc -l [00:51] schestowitz 9 [00:51] schestowitz sometimes it grows a bit, but half of them can be eliminated [00:51] schestowitz baronhk1[m]: enough of it [00:51] schestowitz drop that subject [00:52] schestowitz we want to focus on techrights stuff [00:52] schestowitz baronhk1[m]: your utterances became a liability [00:52] baronhk1[m] The fact that the admiration society is Microsofties is pretty telling. [00:52] schestowitz and only the adversaries enjoy it [00:52] schestowitz not news to me [00:52] MinceR it might be easier to move it to a channel that is not publicly logged [00:52] schestowitz he did it last year [00:53] schestowitz anyway, on we move [00:53] schestowitz we already lost a lot of time today, I have some new EPO material [00:53] baronhk1[m] Why do operating systems get bigger? Because of piles of junk that didn't pan out that get frozen in time for compatibility. [00:53] schestowitz MinceR: it would STILL be off topic [00:53] schestowitz which means sort of missing the point [00:53] schestowitz we want good s/n ratio [00:53] baronhk1[m] Microsoft is really bad about doing this and the crap gets bigger. No matter how much of it eventually ages out it'll never go down in size. [00:54] schestowitz baronhk1[m]: it is easy to add things [00:54] schestowitz sometimes removing LOCs is harder [00:54] schestowitz because you don't know what else migth break [00:54] schestowitz esp. if the code is written poorly and not properly compartmentalised [00:54] schestowitz and refactoring takes ages to implement and then also properly test [00:54] baronhk1[m] Red Hat has always done crackpot things. Remember that Red Hat GCC "2.95" compatibility mess? [00:54] schestowitz linux is just feature churn [00:54] schestowitz 29+ years of feature churn [00:55] schestowitz they never seem to pause and clean up [00:55] kingoffrance agree re: modular, ideally modular is supposed to at least somewhat reduce bloat, idea being you are making reusable components somewhat [00:55] schestowitz they even added anti-features from UMN [00:55] baronhk1[m] Selinux hit Fedora and broke everything and most people just turned it off entirely. [00:55] schestowitz because "HEY, LOOK, FREE PATCHES!!!" [00:55] kingoffrance and ideally, you only need to swap in things you are actually using at the moment [00:55] schestowitz (from postdocs and students even) [00:56] kingoffrance there is overhead for modularity, but i firmly believe it is supposed to make up for that with other gains [00:56] baronhk1[m] Yes, it's obvious that nobody actually reviewed that. [00:56] kingoffrance it was even how OO was sold [00:56] schestowitz for linux the control over the project is made easier by scale [00:56] kingoffrance reusable objects and classes! [00:56] schestowitz also an RC every late Sunday [00:56] schestowitz nobody can catch up [00:56] schestowitz unless they automate the process, like gnu linux-libre deblobbing [00:56] MinceR at least Linus used to catch some of the crap code and curse out whoever wrote it [00:57] schestowitz Con Colivas complained about it last year http://techrights.org/2020/08/22/linux-bloat-meme/ [00:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Linux is Becoming a Code Burial Ground, Sometimes at the Expense of Size and Complexity (Bloat) | Techrights [00:57] schestowitz new kernel stable / -stable release every 1.5-2 months [00:57] schestowitz and he need to refit the scheduler [00:57] schestowitz barely has a week to even test the darn thing [00:57] schestowitz systemd is release frequently and chrome did the same [00:57] schestowitz no benefit to the user [00:58] schestowitz I think it's an aspect of OSPS [00:58] schestowitz they found new tricks for monopolising [00:58] baronhk1[m] Linux kernel development has never particularly been focused on the needs of desktop and laptop users. [00:58] schestowitz even Free software [00:58] schestowitz you demoralise forkers [00:59] baronhk1[m] Unfortunately, that fucking idiot is usually the person poking around with laptop stuff. [00:59] schestowitz IBM keeps throwing and slapping its brand on everything [00:59] schestowitz podman, openshift... [00:59] schestowitz [17:23] #debian developer Enrico Zini messing about with #IBM #VendorLockin #Ansible and reports findings http://www.enricozini.org/blog/2021/debian/ansible-blockinfile-oddity [00:59] baronhk1[m] So you're lucky if it works without corrupting something and doesn't turn your laptop into a nuclear fireball. [00:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.enricozini.org | Ansible blockinfile oddity [00:59] schestowitz I worked a bit with ansible [00:59] schestowitz then IBM bought it [00:59] schestowitz and IBM is rotting away ● Jun 06 [01:00] schestowitz why would I want a production system with some IBM "added value"? [01:00] baronhk1[m] Even when a computer is four or five years old, it's rare that power management is working fully. [01:00] baronhk1[m] And that's probably part of what keeps people on Windows. [01:00] schestowitz heck, they might say due to staff cuts future releases of it, with security bugfixes, won't be compiled for distro version x y [01:00] baronhk1[m] Microsoft making an indecipherable mess of it actually helps them. [01:01] schestowitz but "HERE, HAVE THE SOURCE CODE< GOOD LUCK... it's FREE SOFTWARE" < - systemd in a nutshell, when it breaks [01:01] schestowitz baronhk1[m]: what keeps people on Windows is the OEM strangelhold [01:01] schestowitz thankfully, and they never admit it, they are losing it [01:01] schestowitz in shops now there are sections for Google things [01:02] schestowitz we did not have it 15 years ago [01:02] schestowitz could only dream about a NON-Microsoft section [01:02] schestowitz in a computer/electrics store [01:02] baronhk1[m] Lenovo recommends Ubuntu if you are going to use "Linux" on the ThinkBook. [01:02] baronhk1[m] But that's a big improvement from five years ago. [01:02] schestowitz Some laptops now come with no OS [01:02] schestowitz they let you choose your own distro and version [01:02] schestowitz which is also good [01:02] schestowitz they just test kernel staff for hardware [01:02] baronhk1[m] You couldn't even install Ubuntu then. [01:03] schestowitz and that rewards hardware companies that produce good linux drivers [01:03] baronhk1[m] So even if Ubuntu was the only distribution that worked properly, at least you're not stuck on Windows 10. [01:03] schestowitz Ubuntu us GURANTEED by them to work [01:03] schestowitz like "expiry dates" on products [01:03] schestowitz they likely last a lot longer [01:03] schestowitz but they don't vouch for it [01:04] schestowitz when we buy discounted food, which is almost all the time, we consider how accurate the labels are [01:04] baronhk1[m] The Linux world is getting pretty bad. [01:04] schestowitz usually says "display until" [01:04] MinceR i wonder what definition of "work" that is, considering that they also apply it to Backdoors [01:04] schestowitz or "best before" [01:04] baronhk1[m] SJWs running things, Microsoft behind the curtains, etc. [01:04] schestowitz it's not just Microsoft [01:05] baronhk1[m] Poisoning things with politics and badly written software. [01:05] schestowitz maybe it used to be [01:05] schestowitz it's more sinister than one single company because some motivations overlap [01:05] schestowitz baronhk1[m]: so ww bypass the software [01:05] schestowitz we have many distros still [01:06] schestowitz IBM spoiled the broth with that centOS decision [01:06] schestowitz drove away many fedora volunteers [01:06] schestowitz and gentoo saw a SURGE in contributions last year [01:06] schestowitz people don't trust IBM things as much now [01:06] schestowitz suspicion grew [01:06] schestowitz at work we try to use more Debian [01:07] schestowitz I still mostly trust Debian, and that GR can in the longer term spawn a native Debian akin to Devuan [01:07] schestowitz we tested Devuan recrntly [01:07] schestowitz as a path away from CentOS [01:07] schestowitz wordpress ran OK [01:07] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] * from Rocky Linux :) [01:08] schestowitz cloudlinux now makes a distro 'optimised' for wordpress [01:08] schestowitz that was in a press release and some blog posts 2 days ago [01:08] baronhk1[m] Does it have a bunch of kludges that use bits of systemd like others that claim to be free of it do? [01:08] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] Finally, a distribution with PHP. [01:08] schestowitz systemd caused me a lot of confusion [01:08] schestowitz this past week I couldn't figure out why gemini wasn't running some daemons [01:09] schestowitz and how to make them start after the reboot [01:09] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] systemctl enable [01:09] baronhk1[m] Google tells me a trending search in the US is how to opt out of Amazon Sidewalk. [01:09] schestowitz I know [01:09] baronhk1[m] That's encouraging. Maybe people will opt out of Amazon. [01:09] schestowitz but it didn't work after the reboot [01:09] schestowitz that would be great [01:09] baronhk1[m] Wake up and realize what these damned things are. [01:09] schestowitz they suck up all the income [01:09] schestowitz and they spy [01:09] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] systemctl status [01:09] schestowitz if we can free that up [01:09] schestowitz apparently amazon as a company was not even profitable until aws [01:10] schestowitz I read that in some forum, so unverified [01:10] schestowitz they suck up a lot of value from free software they never developed [01:10] schestowitz and many who provide support become just tenants of aws [01:10] baronhk1[m] They were making a lot of money letting Chinese vendors sell counterfeits and review their own products until the USTR started breathing down their neck under Trump. [01:11] schestowitz the liability rule changes came into effect lately [01:11] schestowitz passing some liability to amazon [01:11] schestowitz but too late [01:11] schestowitz they already killed many competitors of theirs [01:11] schestowitz and got a secret special deals with parcel passers [01:11] schestowitz so you cannot compete on delivery price [01:11] schestowitz they also don't pay tax [01:12] schestowitz so good luck competing [01:12] schestowitz g7 is dicussing this now [01:12] schestowitz my dad told me today on the phone [01:12] baronhk1[m] They were also letting their customers bypass state sales taxes for almost 15 years. [01:12] schestowitz they want to introduce some minimum tax rate rules [01:12] schestowitz about time [01:12] baronhk1[m] So if you wanted to buy something locally, there was a 7-10% penalty on price. [01:12] schestowitz Microsoft evades like 100,000 MILLION in tax through Ireland [01:13] schestowitz you can build lots of roads with that money [01:13] baronhk1[m] $218 million I heard. [01:13] schestowitz (or plant parks) [01:13] schestowitz http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_-_Tax [01:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft - Tax - Techrights [01:13] schestowitz India found them guilty [01:14] baronhk1[m] Microsoft was ignoring the developers of QBittorrent for a very long time when they were asking for a fake version with scam donation buttons to be removed from the Windows Store. [01:14] baronhk1[m] There's a lot of stories like this. [01:14] baronhk1[m] So not only does the Windows Store violate the GPL, they let scammers make off with money people intended to donate to open source projects. [01:15] techrights-bot 1 minute ago about #bullying in #ibm (by management): "said minion above was reported by over 20 people for toxic work environment and guess what....minion is still there....many of the 20 who reported have retired, been RA'd or left the company." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bb9lDj3#replies [01:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Need advice. How to tackle with micro management - post regarding IBM layoffs [01:15] baronhk1[m] One violation of the GPL will be remedied soon if Microsoft is telling the truth. [01:15] baronhk1[m] They claim they intend to let users easily sideload MSIX applications. [01:15] schestowitz "sideload" is a loaded term [01:15] baronhk1[m] But I presume there will either be a signing requirement (like Gatekeeper on Apple) or it will be a pain to disable that. [01:15] schestowitz and misleading one [01:16] kingoffrance i dont follow these things but supposedly amazon reinvested a lot so just saying i have heard similar [01:16] kingoffrance that was kind of on purpose supposedly [01:16] schestowitz we have a 'toilet paper' economy [01:16] schestowitz china makes most of the actual products [01:16] MinceR cornholiovirus? [01:16] schestowitz inc. those servers that run aws [01:17] schestowitz we're just swimming in "AYE PEE" [01:17] schestowitz now china is running circles around WTO and WIPO [01:17] schestowitz granting like a million+ patents per year [01:17] schestowitz just to game the system [01:17] schestowitz COVID-19 is just a side show in the big picture [01:18] schestowitz we lose our edge and cannot employ the young [01:18] schestowitz people retire early due to lack of choice [01:18] *sepsinn has quit (Quit: WeeChat 3.1) [01:18] schestowitz and pension taken away because "COVID, really sorry!!" [01:18] kingoffrance sideload sounds like appliances and no longer general purpose devices [01:18] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 19.83 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 85.76 swarm size (avg): 238.60 [01:19] MinceR that's what locked down computers are [01:19] MinceR UEFI appliances and other appliances [01:19] schestowitz sideload and naked PC hacker [01:19] kingoffrance yeah, its just amazing to hear [01:19] kingoffrance like the whole pc thing supposedly was get off of that [01:19] kingoffrance because that was the mainframe model [01:19] schestowitz naked PC = http://techrights.org/2021/05/11/bill-gates-exposed-2021/ [01:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bill Gates Exposed | Techrights [01:19] kingoffrance apple 1984 ad etc. all that jazz [01:19] kingoffrance finally you the user are in control, the pc is here [01:19] schestowitz naked PC . https://nypost.com/2021/05/10/bill-gates-womanizer-held-nude-pool-parties-biographer/ [01:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nypost.com | Bill Gates 'womanizer,' held nude pool parties: biographer [01:20] schestowitz "the pc is here" [01:20] schestowitz ok, buddy, here's a pair of trousers [01:20] schestowitz try that on [01:21] kingoffrance its just amazing to see it mainstreamed, like the 80s and 90s never happened [01:21] kingoffrance it was always there, in teh background, waiting for a comeback [01:22] kingoffrance not saying this was so clear cut either, just marketing wise [01:23] schestowitz there are still relatively "open" systems around [01:23] schestowitz as long as demand for them is maintained [01:23] schestowitz some "open" chip projects perished [01:23] schestowitz but others emerged [01:23] baronhk1[m] https://wgntv.com/news/coronavirus/chicago-increasing-vaccination-efforts-in-south-west-sides/ [01:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wgntv.com | Chicago increasing vaccination efforts in South, West sides | WGN-TV [01:23] schestowitz "open" in quotes because of extensive openwashing [01:23] baronhk1[m] "We're from Mayor Lightfoot's office and were just checking to see if you've gotten shot yet...errr, I mean gotten your shot yet." [01:24] schestowitz like IBM putting some shit in shithub and then saying things like "OPENpower" or "openPOWER" [01:25] schestowitz baronhk1[m]: last I checked, 40 million adults here got two shots [01:25] schestowitz but that's off topic [01:25] baronhk1[m] It was a joke that I put on Facebook. [01:25] baronhk1[m] Dig at Chicago. [01:25] schestowitz some will never agree to the second (after falling ill from the first AZ shot) and we have almost 70 million people total [01:25] schestowitz back to tech... [01:26] schestowitz IBM is one of several jumping the open bandwagon [01:26] schestowitz with front groups and all to hail their "openness" [01:26] baronhk1[m] They must know who hasn't gotten one or else how would they know where to send the people to nag and shame? [01:26] schestowitz They try to shut the FSF up [01:26] schestowitz because FSF still has higher standards [01:26] schestowitz OSI is just like LF... sponsor us, then tell us what to say [01:27] schestowitz RMS is hard to buy off [01:27] baronhk1[m] "Englewood has the fewest number of people fully vaccinated at just 29.5% of people vaccinated." [01:27] baronhk1[m] 94% black. [01:27] schestowitz almost 70 and no point for him to collect money [01:27] schestowitz he cannot even leave money to kids etc. [01:27] schestowitz baronhk1[m]: enough [01:27] schestowitz back on topic [01:28] baronhk1[m] The "news" was previously (all of 2 months ago) shaming white people for "stealing" vaccine doses that they don't even want. [01:29] techrights-bot Truly ridiculous #patents and #SoftwarePatents https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/06/classic-prosecution-disclaimer.html [01:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Classic Prosecution Disclaimer | Patently-O [01:30] baronhk1[m] I would never have been desperate enough for a COVID vaccine to enter Englewood to get one. [01:30] techrights-bot #patens are not "rights"... and stop calling everything "HEY HI"... it's not helping, except the agenda of #swpats #litigation http://www.ajudaily.com/view/20210604110137413 [01:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ajudaily.com | AI's failed attempt to win patent rights sparks awareness of legal preparations [01:30] baronhk1[m] So I don't know what leftist race war troll at NPR hallucinated that story. [01:31] schestowitz this is off-topic [01:32] techrights-bot Crocus Gallium3D Nears Mainline Mesa For #Gallium3D i965 Through Haswell #Graphics - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Crocus-WIP-MR-Mesa #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/06/#latest [01:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Crocus Gallium3D Nears Mainline Mesa For Gallium3D i965 Through Haswell Graphics - Phoronix [01:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [01:34] baronhk1[m] https://www.npr.org/2021/06/04/1003247069/unrest-erupts-after-a-man-was-fatally-shot-during-an-arrest-attempt-in-minneapol [01:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | Unrest Erupts After A Man Was Fatally Shot During An Arrest Attempt In Minneapolis : NPR [01:34] baronhk1[m] "Crowds vandalized buildings and stole from businesses in Minneapolis' Uptown neighborhood after officials said a man wanted for illegally possessing a gun was fatally shot by authorities who were part of a task force trying to arrest him that included U.S. Marshals." Looks like I was wrong when I said another month or two. [01:35] schestowitz if you carry on off-topic, we'll mute you [01:37] techrights-bot Shows/Videos: This Week in Linux, #Nyxt , and #Vocage http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151981 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Shows/Videos: This Week in Linux, Nyxt, and Vocage | Tux Machines [01:39] techrights-bot #patent #monopolies aren't worth it. Lives can be saved, instead. https://news.yahoo.com/u-encouraged-progress-toward-vaccine-115949101.html [01:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.yahoo.com | U.S. encouraged by progress toward vaccine patent waiver [01:39] baronhk1[m] Of course. Like Matrix and that fat loser Matthew. [01:40] techrights-bot The #patent #cartel is afraid not just because of #patents waiver related to #coronavirus ... because the success of such a waiver can herald of similar actions all across the board, impoverishing the cartel (long overdue). [01:41] baronhk1[m] Apparently, I'm worth silencing but the people posting outright illegal things on his network, which....I'm not familiar with the laws in the UK but I'm sure it violates a lot of them.....they go right on. [01:42] schestowitz it's a matter of staying on topic in a channel not about Minneapolis and arrests [01:42] schestowitz One person was muted for interjecting sex into this channel repeatedly [01:42] schestowitz to stir up controversies and derail the discussions [01:43] schestowitz when the actual subject in consideration was NSA back doors [01:43] baronhk1[m] He didn't just interject it. He bragged about forcing himself on others and just what a cretin he is in general. In fact, why are we not using his name? [01:44] techrights-bot This is very clearly a puff piece. Whether a paid-for or not... to be decided upon context https://www.neweurope.eu/article/how-international-partnerships-help-boost-saudi-intellectual-property-watchdogs-effectiveness/ [01:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.neweurope.eu | How international partnerships help boost Saudi intellectual property watchdogs effectiveness | New Europe [01:45] baronhk1[m] I'm not sure he's actually smart enough to have written that code. [01:46] schestowitz someone from red hat/fedora told me NSA sends them patches [01:46] baronhk1[m] Might have been ghostwritten, but who knows? [01:46] schestowitz and then they add these under their redhat.com address [01:46] schestowitz a shade of what UMN did [01:46] baronhk1[m] That makes sense. [01:46] schestowitz copypasta programming [01:46] schestowitz "put it there... don't say where it came from" [01:46] schestowitz "or what it does" [01:47] baronhk1[m] It's very hard to read that and understand it. [01:47] schestowitz he's not even a programmers by training/education [01:47] schestowitz *programmer [01:47] baronhk1[m] In fact, most people who even say they read SELinux policies and understand what they do are lying to you. [01:47] baronhk1[m] It's terrible. [01:48] baronhk1[m] The user facing tools are pretty nasty too. [01:48] schestowitz it's barely used anymore [01:48] schestowitz even on rhel-derived systems [01:49] schestowitz the selinux team became barely visible [01:49] baronhk1[m] Yes, they backed off from the original policy almost immediately because it broke everything and they had no idea how to fix it. [01:49] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2014/01/26/death-knell-by-nsa/ [01:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM Shows That Collaborations With the NSA Are a Companys Death Knell | Techrights [01:49] schestowitz under iBM leadership even more reasons for discord and mistrust [01:50] baronhk1[m] AppArmor is easy to read and write policy for. [01:50] baronhk1[m] It had gaps, but solutions were implemented to address most of that. [01:50] schestowitz techrights used to have selinux installed and running [01:50] schestowitz it mostly obstructed legit stuff [01:50] baronhk1[m] I wrote AppArmor policies at one point. [01:50] schestowitz never stopped any security risks afaik [01:50] baronhk1[m] They were easy enough to do that I just wrote them for the hell of it. [01:51] baronhk1[m] I had one for Opera with Presto that I bumped whenever there was a new version out. [01:51] schestowitz the apparmor person moved from novell to Microsoft [01:51] schestowitz Crispin something [01:51] schestowitz http://techrights.org/category/apparmor/ [01:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | AppArmor | Techrights [01:52] schestowitz Crispin Cowen http://techrights.org/2010/05/19/crispin-cowen-uses-myths/ [01:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | From Novell to Microsoft to Daemonising Microsoft Critics and GNU/Linux Communities | Techrights [01:52] baronhk1[m] It's been maintained by Canonical for some time now. [01:52] schestowitz https://twitter.com/crispincowan0?lang=en [01:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 400 @ https://mobile.twitter.com/crispincowan0?lang=en ) [01:52] schestowitz "Stealth mode. LeviathanSec alum. *NIX: StackGuard, Immunix, LSM, AppArmor. Windows, UAC, AppContainer, Windows Security, Edge. Erds 3. Pronoun: "Doctor" " [01:52] MinceR afaik apparmor is also easier to circumvent [01:53] schestowitz "Crispin Cowan - Senior Consultant - Leviathan Security Group" [01:54] schestowitz He did Windows for a while [01:54] schestowitz seems like he left [01:54] schestowitz threw in the towel like many others I know [01:54] schestowitz Windows doesn't have a bright future [01:54] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/05/03/statcounter-may-2021/ [01:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | StatCounter: In May 2021 Windows Market Share Falls Sharply to Just 28%, Whereas GNU/Linux Climbs to 2.31% in Desktops/Laptops | Techrights [01:56] schestowitz thankfully, all those botnets that targeted this IRC network all day long have run out of steam [01:56] schestowitz or maybe the script kiddies went to bed [01:56] schestowitz time for me to... to go to bed, 2am here [01:57] baronhk1[m] Maybe Goodbye Horses ended and Garrett is taking a break for the moment. [01:59] MinceR they haven't run out of steam [01:59] MinceR they're still attacking oftc [01:59] baronhk1[m] Firefox on Android made it harder to reset cookies. [01:59] baronhk1[m] You have to do it for all sites now, not just one. ● Jun 06 [02:00] baronhk1[m] ZDNet spammers positively reviewed Firefox 89 with the new interface today. [02:02] baronhk1[m] https://www.zdnet.com/article/endangered-firefox-the-state-of-mozilla/ [02:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Endangered Firefox: The state of Mozilla | ZDNet [02:02] baronhk1[m] "However, the Mozilla Foundation also reported that salaries and other employee compensation made up $9.4 million in expenses. At 33%, this gives the Foundation a poor score of 2.5 on the Charity Navigator's administrative expense metric. Mozilla's CEO and President Baker was paid over $3-million, a substantial raise over 2018's $2.5 million. Baker's salary, however, came out of the corporate funds, not the [02:02] baronhk1[m] Foundation's. " [02:03] baronhk1[m] $3 million even though Firefox lost 25% of its remaining users, year over year. [02:03] baronhk1[m] In what universe is this not perverse? She gets a $500,000 raise while they go from 4.5% of web users to 3.3%. [02:06] kingoffrance oh i dunno its all crazy. fuondation has employees, but theres another corporate fund. but foundations are corporations, but a different kind [02:06] MinceR maybe that was the objective [02:07] MinceR it would explain what mozilla's been doing lately [02:07] MinceR produce the appearance of competition without anyone actually using their products [02:07] kingoffrance and foundations have employees, but a different kind [02:07] kingoffrance no wonder the accountants can do anything they want [02:09] baronhk1[m] You can donate to Mozilla, but why would you? [02:10] baronhk1[m] So they can give Baker another $500,000 this year? [02:10] baronhk1[m] So they can fire another 20% of their employees that work on the actual browser and retask the rest to put more spam and DRM in it? [02:11] baronhk1[m] I wonder what Pale Moon will do when Mozilla no longer exists. [02:11] MinceR what does it do now? [02:11] MinceR other than blacklist extensions manchild doesn't like [02:12] baronhk1[m] Copies off of them and adds security holes. [02:12] baronhk1[m] https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=26657&sid=b8de47c2855a096aa1d6bb48b91c5f39 [02:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forum.palemoon.org | Upcoming 29.2.0 extension support notice - Pale Moon forum [02:13] baronhk1[m] This sounds exactly like the problem he complained about with webextensions. [02:14] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@76-234-138-224.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) has joined #techrights [02:14] AdmFubar https://puri.sm/posts/locked-in-a-remote-control-car/ [02:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-puri.sm | Locked In A Remote Control Car Purism [02:15] baronhk1[m] MinceR: There's this huge weed growing outside. [02:15] baronhk1[m] Mandy said "What's that?". [02:15] baronhk1[m] So I grabbed a magnifying glass and put it up to my mouth and said "It's a plant.". [02:16] MinceR i don't get that reference [02:18] kingoffrance i guess its a miniaturized ppp in a way, here is foundation, here is the corporate fund [02:18] MinceR :> [02:18] kingoffrance IOW, its not supposed to make sense [02:19] *kingoffrance taps forehead condescendingly [02:19] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 21.66 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 59.31 swarm size (avg): 238.64 [02:19] baronhk1[m] MinceR: https://stargate.fandom.com/wiki/Plant_of_P6J-908 [02:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stargate.fandom.com | Plant of P6J-908 | SGCommand | Fandom [02:20] MinceR lol [02:21] baronhk1[m] Lee: Well the good news is, it hasn't eaten anybody yet. [02:21] baronhk1[m] O'Neill: Well thank you, Seymour. [02:22] AdmFubar https://tech.slashdot.org/story/21/06/05/0536225/why-its-a-big-deal-that-no-one-cares-about-the-next-version-of-windows?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed [02:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tech.slashdot.org | Why It's a Big Deal That No One Cares about the Next Version of Windows - Slashdot [02:23] baronhk1[m] The "news" articles are all sounding like a slightly rearranged press release. [02:24] baronhk1[m] One of the big features are the icons, which obviously make a huge difference in helping Windows become secure and not a RAM-eating CPU-hogging monstrosity. schestowitz [02:24] MinceR yes they do [02:24] MinceR just ask garrett [02:26] baronhk1[m] He's eagerly awaiting WSL3 so that he can keep WSL sessions going without having to close down all of his Linux apps to gain the memory back. [02:26] baronhk1[m] WSL2 being so fantastic and all. [02:28] MinceR lol [02:28] MinceR i don't see the problem [02:29] MinceR rebooting all the time is the "modern" thing to do [02:29] MinceR and so's wasting RAM [02:29] MinceR just ask poettering. [02:37] techrights-bot *** *** Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-050621.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-050621.txt Read the log now... [02:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social @ FreeNode: Saturday, June 05, 2021 [02:38] techrights-bot *** *** Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-050621.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-050621.txt Read the log now... [02:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Saturday, June 05, 2021 [02:39] techrights-bot *** *** Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. 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Do ye know what the message limitation is for each network assuming the longest possible nickname? ● Jun 06 [03:03] *mmu_man has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [03:04] techrights-ipfs Gemini requests since start of month: 40829 total Total pages: 35776 Active: active (running) since Thu 2021-06-03 01:17:05 BST; 3 days ago [03:04] techrights-ipfs IPFS local node stats (past 23 hours) calculated. TotalIn: 1.8 GB TotalOut: 539 MB [03:04] techrights-ipfs New daily bulletin just generated. It is about to be added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with CID [03:06] techrights-ipfs QmTLpCFhnZNUGtUUaydcHLKw8X8UtM9SVzGkdtC96nawfE [03:21] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 19.75 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 19.91 swarm size (avg): 238.68 ● Jun 06 [04:05] psydroid rearranging the lipstick pattern on the pig is all these people at Microsoft can do anymore [04:06] psydroid and praise be upon them according to the word of Garrett [04:11] psydroid Windows does have a bright future, a future as bright as Icarus had when he flew to the sun [04:19] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.56 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 76.15 swarm size (avg): 238.71 [04:20] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] There is an unanswered question of how tomaw managed to lock out an Organisation with 2FA, and https://gist.github.com/unsurethinker/f3fb589e6c6fa26095fac56171acdb66#gistcomment-3763102 implies that [04:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gist.github.com | freenode-libera-links.md GitHub [04:20] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] what happened is that 2FA got required from anyone in the organisation in general. [04:21] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] But it's hard to believe, was that really it? [04:26] psydroid With RHEL 8 they broke dd, so I wiped it [04:26] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] I think a lot of people don't understand what the DNS account lock-out means here. [04:29] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] And it feels like Thomas added a setting that meant that Andrew needed to get a TOTP application to access the domains, and he'd rather call the lawyers. [04:32] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] But that's a suspicion just because nothing else in my opinion makes sense taking into account how the domains are organised on Gandi, and the wording rasengan used in this comment (I am annoyed that he was dodging this as hard as he could in this channel when I was asking him about things). [04:34] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] And now it makes more sense why he was repeatedly making a point that 2FA is bad. [04:37] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] I may be one of the first persons to figure this out and yet I feel incredibly stupid somehow. The banality of things. [04:44] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: Ye wanted a topic to write about? I just got you a techrights exclusive %). [04:50] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] (see: https://paste.debian.net/1198440 ) [04:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paste.debian.net | debian Pastezone ● Jun 06 [05:19] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 18.30 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 36.45 swarm size (avg): 238.74 [05:34] *gde33 (~gde33@84-106-154-98.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) has joined #techrights [05:36] *balrog_ (balrog@unaffiliated/balrog) has joined #techrights [05:37] *samiamsam has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [05:37] *samiamsam (~d@zukertort.childrenofmay.org) has joined #techrights [05:37] *balrog has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [05:37] *gde34 has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [05:37] *cybrNaut has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [05:38] *cybrNaut (~cybrNaut@rrcs-67-53-148-69.west.biz.rr.com) has joined #techrights [05:38] *balrog_ is now known as balrog ● Jun 06 [06:01] baronhk1[m] Probably the main point of these phones that Walmart is handing out is that they'll have Bluetooth LE all over the store, so they'll know exactly where every employee is. It's like having them tagged. [06:01] baronhk1[m] It struck me that they were planning to put Bluetooth LE devices all over their stores anyway. [06:01] rbraun yeah, walmart *would* do such a thing... [06:02] baronhk1[m] If they activate it on these phones, then they'll know within 3 feet of where each employee is. [06:03] baronhk1[m] They don't have the ability to do that right now, and they've been getting really irritated about time clock theft since the new wage increases. [06:03] baronhk1[m] They've fired about 15% of the store employees and posted the jobs as open in the last couple of months. [06:05] baronhk1[m] The phone would detect when the employee is at work and only open the me@walmart app, and having Walmart agree to pay the phone bill each month would probably be enough to get many employees to cancel their current provider, which means they now have a phone where they couldn't goof off on it at work if they wanted to. [06:05] baronhk1[m] It makes sense. Walmart is already an mvno, so this will be cheap to implement and they get to pitch it as a perk of working there. [06:18] baronhk1[m] https://abc7chicago.com/10743595/ [06:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-abc7chicago.com | Amazon Sidewalk: Have an Amazon device? Take action now or you may be sharing your internet with neighbors - ABC7 Chicago [06:19] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 21.46 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 101.81 swarm size (avg): 238.77 [06:19] baronhk1[m] "Amazon Ring is malware for many reasons, but one of which is that it stores your doorbell video on an Amazon Clown server and police departments across the country can access it and even turn it on without your permission. A man in Michigan is up on charges and his own doorbell recorded him. [06:19] baronhk1[m] Now it's botnet malware. So, uhhhm, have fun with that." [06:19] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Always read both sides of the story - http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/lee-side.pdf) [06:23] kingoffrance that sounds like another snowden and/or greenwald thing, privacy for me, not for you [06:23] kingoffrance would that people got live feed into police station [06:23] rbraun er, what about that is snowden or greenwald? [06:23] kingoffrance then it would 180 and suddenly be a great invasino of pirvacy [06:23] kingoffrance it was a quote [06:24] kingoffrance i just dont recall which one said it. about how privacy is a one way street [06:24] kingoffrance the same time powers that be are securing their stuff, everyone else is getting tagged and monitored [06:24] rbraun ahhh okay [06:24] rbraun yes, it's true [06:24] kingoffrance one of those inverse equations [06:24] kingoffrance im a little tired sorry [06:24] rbraun baronhk1[m]: where is that from? i'm trying to look up the michigan case [06:25] kingoffrance inversely proportional [06:25] rbraun yeah [06:26] baronhk1[m] A black teenager walked up and started banging on some guy's door so the guy figured that there was about to be a home invasion and fired a couple of warning shots to scare him off. [06:26] baronhk1[m] The doorbell caught it and they're using the video against him in court. [06:26] baronhk1[m] They decided that the homeowner committed attempted murder or something. [06:27] baronhk1[m] https://www.foxnews.com/us/michigan-teen-misses-bus-gets-shot-at-after-asking-for-directions [06:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.foxnews.com | Michigan teen misses bus, gets shot at after asking for directions | Fox News [06:28] baronhk1[m] If he hadn't put the Ring Doorbell there then there at least wouldn't have been any video evidence that could be used against him. [06:28] baronhk1[m] So he paid Amazon to hand the state evidence in his own criminal trial. [06:28] rbraun ah thanks [06:29] baronhk1[m] The presumption of innocence is stronger the less evidence the state has, obviously. [06:29] baronhk1[m] So without the video he may have at least negotiated a better plea deal. [06:31] baronhk1[m] The left demanded body cameras on all the cops and then when it became clear that the vast majority of the time the cops did nothing wrong and it was the guy they pulled over who tried to pull a gun on them or back up over them......they ignored that and continued with their previous narrative. [06:31] rbraun well, neither of those convinces me body cameras on cops are wrong tho [06:31] rbraun whether it catches bad cops or crooks [06:31] baronhk1[m] The cities are making the cops wear them because of the settlements they were having to make out of court because juries would just sort of guess at what happened. [06:32] rbraun the ring thing is scarier given it's surveillance where it hasn't been [06:32] rbraun that isn't the most endearing test case for it but i bet there will be some better ones [06:32] rbraun and, it's surveillance that even the owner can't delete, in this case, before the cops get their hands on it [06:33] baronhk1[m] Now that it can just connect to the neighbor's wifi, you have to wonder how long it'll be before some pervert like Garrett is trying to break into your home network using that as the open door. [06:33] baronhk1[m] It's well known (he even admits) that iot devices have awful security and are normally not updated to deal with hundreds or thousands of CVEs and now everyone with an Amazon device is going to be in everyone else's wifi network. [06:34] baronhk1[m] It's a disaster waiting to happen. [06:34] kingoffrance yeah i saw a special on one of the news things. they asked the blurred image deep voice hacker how he got in. default passwords. just to show you can [06:35] baronhk1[m] Routers have awful security too. REAVER attacks still work on some (like mine) in their default state. [06:35] baronhk1[m] I disabled the feature that enables that exploit. [06:35] kingoffrance it was all mysterious and spooky, but in the end, no magic, no sneaking around, no social engineering even, it was just due to laziness [06:35] baronhk1[m] There's also some still out there that allow the user to choose WEP without telling them why not to choose that. [06:35] baronhk1[m] (Mine does.) [06:36] baronhk1[m] Or offers them TKIP. (Mine does) [06:36] baronhk1[m] I'm not throwing this thing out until it's shot. [06:36] baronhk1[m] They're not giving them away. [06:38] baronhk1[m] WEP/TKIP is being removed from Windows 10 soon. [06:38] rbraun "normally not updated" then some lawmakers try to force you to use updated software, and only from the vendor, and you're in tivoized hell [06:38] baronhk1[m] For the last year or so it would just nag if you try to connect. [06:38] kingoffrance obligatory: https://xkcd.com/538/ [06:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Security [06:38] rbraun so i usually just shut up about that problem and let people deal with their own insecure shit [06:38] baronhk1[m] If the user isn't allowed to even understand how these things work, much less have any real control over what they're doing, then they shouldn't use them. [06:39] rbraun yeah i agree with that statement [06:39] baronhk1[m] The only people who actually like Ring doorbells are people like my sister in law who think people are coming to steal her shoes and the car that breaks down all the time with 20 more payments. [06:40] rbraun yeah [06:40] rbraun amazon gets people to adopt them by having terrible transparency in their own shipping times [06:40] rbraun so people never know when to look for packages and think they might be getting stolen [06:40] baronhk1[m] We went there for Thanksgiving and her husband turned out to be creepier than she is. [06:40] baronhk1[m] He said "I saw you get near my dog. You want him to bite you so you can sue me and take my things!". [06:40] baronhk1[m] I was like, "Paranoia is a way of life for you people, isn't it?". [06:42] baronhk1[m] Oh yeah, being rushed to the ER with a dog bite on my hand that might turn septic is really how I wanted to end that year. :/ [06:43] baronhk1[m] The upside is that if anyone does break in and doesn't manage to shoot the dog, it will bite them. It bites its own family, it bites the obedience instructor, it bites the vet... [06:43] baronhk1[m] The RIng is really just gravy. [06:45] baronhk1[m] O'Neill: "Carter, if anyone else comes in here.....bite 'em on the hand!" [06:46] baronhk1[m] MinceR: So, mom was complaining about her upstairs neighbors, Beavis and Butthead. [06:47] baronhk1[m] They were smoking the nastiest cigarettes ever, again, and she said "I don't know what to do. I bought a HEPA system.". [06:48] baronhk1[m] I said, "You bought one that says it can do 80 square feet for your living room and your bedroom. That's 160 total. Your apartment is at least 1,400." [06:48] baronhk1[m] That's assuming a standard 10 foot ceiling. If it's higher, then you have to account for that too. [06:48] baronhk1[m] Math. How does that work? [06:50] baronhk1[m] https://www.npr.org/2021/06/05/1003649674/california-assault-weapons-ban-disrespects-freedom-federal-judge-writes [06:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | 'Ordinary, Popular' Guns Protected By Second Amendment, California Judge Rules : NPR [06:51] baronhk1[m] "I think the case for protecting the AR-15 is greater than the case for protecting the handgun," Blackman said. "The Second Amendment has a couple touchstones: One is self-defense. The other one is protection from the government itself. This is the weapon." [06:51] baronhk1[m] Well, you know I had the Gimmedat Party as much as anyone, but.... [06:52] baronhk1[m] Does that mean that if rocket launchers had been commonly available before there was any law against them, that they too would have been protected by the second amendment? [06:53] baronhk1[m] "After that, legal observers say, it's possible the Supreme Court will step in to settle the matter. But that's far from certain. In 2016, the high court declined to hear a challenge to assault weapons bans in Connecticut and New York. The year before, the court rejected a similar challenge over local ordinances in Cook County, Ill." [06:53] baronhk1[m] Yes, but things have changed. [06:53] baronhk1[m] For one thing, the liberal witch is dead. [06:55] baronhk1[m] Richard Stallman is big on abortion. He ignores the fact that most of the people who get them are black women, and that it lowers the pressure on the same government to do anything to lift black people out of poverty. [06:56] baronhk1[m] They'll be less of the voters, the ones that do survive will be statistically a little better off and more likely to support the Republicans because of that, and white people will see cleaner cities instead of going "Oh my god, this is terrible.". [06:57] baronhk1[m] If Stallman was a proponent of measures that enabled people to get a job and earn their money and come to despise the government for taking it away from them to waste on god only knows what, then there wouldn't be as much of a need in the first place. [06:57] baronhk1[m] *people like Stallman [06:57] rbraun what "liberal witch"?? [06:57] baronhk1[m] RBG [06:57] rbraun pfffffffff [06:58] rbraun the cult of personality around her was one of the dumbest things the liberals ever did, and i say that as personally being on the left and not being too happy about the result [06:58] rbraun but i think the conservatives are overestimating how much it will shift the court. every decision is its own thing ● Jun 06 [07:00] baronhk1[m] The gay rights decisions have moved to the left since Trump appointed 3 judges to the Supreme Court. [07:00] baronhk1[m] They were 5-4 and now many are 6-3. [07:02] baronhk1[m] I think Roe will be curtailed. [07:02] baronhk1[m] They may not end it entirely. No state has tried to defy the Roe decision by making a law that would ban abortion completely. [07:03] baronhk1[m] With the way doctor visits work now, you can probably do this on an app anyway. [07:03] baronhk1[m] In the 1970s, probably not. [07:09] techrights-bot #Techrights Bulletin for Saturday, June 05, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [07:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives [07:09] techrights-bot #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [07:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index [07:12] techrights-bot " #IBM is governed just like a cargo cult - management sees somebody else with some godlike advanced technology and they come to believe if they act like those other people and recite buzzword-filled incantations, that the technology gods may come and visit them again." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bclKKqZ#replies [07:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | experiencing a cult like culture - post regarding IBM layoffs [07:14] techrights-bot "LOL, You math is horrible. I hope you don't still work at #IBM " https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b8muPNk#replies [07:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Why so much hate for the new - and young - employees? - post regarding IBM layoffs [07:14] techrights-bot "Has #IBM found a suitor yet for Watson Health? Or is it hopeless, at this point?" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b148I3m#replies http://techrights.org/2020/07/25/watson-offensive/ [07:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | WATSON HEALTH - post regarding IBM layoffs [07:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Watson is a Lot More Offensive Than Whitelist and Master | Techrights [07:15] techrights-bot They don't even replace people who leave, even in well funded z business and replacement is always someone with no experience because ibm isn't willing to pay market salary. New products are all buggy because of this." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bcvmPjl#replies [07:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Guys, just leave - post regarding IBM layoffs [07:16] techrights-bot #ibm 3 hours ago: "this is the same story in lot of teams. They don't even replace people who leave, even in well funded z business and replacement is always someone with no experience because ibm isn't willing to pay market salary. New products are all buggy because of this." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bcvmPjl#replies [07:17] techrights-bot This thread and all those new comments show the state of low morale at #ibm https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bcg7eF3#replies [07:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | IBM is a joke - post regarding IBM layoffs [07:18] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.80 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 69.73 swarm size (avg): 238.81 [07:21] techrights-bot David Tomaschik: GPU Accelerated Password Cracking in the Clown: Speed and Cost-Effectiveness https://systemoverlord.com/2021/06/05/gpu-accelerated-password-cracking-in-the-cloud.html this should not worry you if you use a strong password. The more common mistake is putting your passwords "in the clown" [07:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-systemoverlord.com | GPU Accelerated Password Cracking in the Cloud: Speed and Cost-Effectiveness System Overlord [07:22] techrights-bot The #Talospace Project: Progress on the #OpenPOWER #SpiderMonkey JIT https://www.talospace.com/2021/06/progress-on-openpower-spidermonkey-jit.html #deletegithub http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github [07:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.talospace.com | Progress on the OpenPOWER SpiderMonkey JIT [07:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Delete Github - Techrights [07:23] techrights-bot NEWS #Pijul Rethinking Sanakirja https://pijul.org/posts/2021-02-06-rethinking-sanakirja/ [07:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pijul.org | Pijul - Rethinking Sanakirja [07:25] techrights-bot Old: #security in perspective https://xkcd.com/538/ [07:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Security [07:25] techrights-bot #Microsoft #Windows TCO: #Bloomberg # [Crackers] Breached Colonial Pipeline Using Compromised Password https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-06-04/hackers-breached-colonial-pipeline-using-compromised-password [07:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot? [07:27] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [07:27] *asusbox has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [07:29] schestowitz [04:50] [XRevan86/tr] (see: https://paste.debian.net/1198440 ) [07:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paste.debian.net | debian Pastezone [07:29] schestowitz That contains information I saw before [07:29] schestowitz including the screenshots [07:30] schestowitz maybe I am missing something between the lines? [07:31] schestowitz I have reread your IRC MSGs in #techrights and 'DMs' [07:34] schestowitz [02:22] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- tech.slashdot.org | Why It's a Big Deal That No One Cares about the Next Version of Windows - Slashdot [07:34] schestowitz how to make 'news' out of non-news [07:35] schestowitz Slashdot has not been credible in like a decade [07:35] schestowitz not it's doing vapourware while sort of admitting it's just vapourware [07:36] schestowitz [01:59] they're still attacking oftc [07:36] schestowitz so they target them too? What's the motivation? [07:38] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] XRevan86: let me know if I'm missing something, I read that twice and see no information (to me at least) [07:38] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] no new information, it's basically as I understand it and a consistent explanation [07:38] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] 2FA is problematic for several reasons [07:38] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] I can explain why [07:38] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] but it would take a while [07:39] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] case of point, days ago rianne and I spent 2 days trying to regain control of her paypal account [07:39] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] because paypal added a "factor" [07:39] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] which we had no access to [07:39] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] so after much "HEY HI" phonecalls (expensive phonecalls where you just talk to a robot) we managed to speak to an actual person [07:40] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] answered some basic security question [07:40] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] and she ("Anne", sounded like American or Northern Irish based on the accent) added our landline as a "factor" [07:40] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] that wasn't real security [07:40] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] it just just a box-ticking exercise from them [07:41] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] that would also prevent us accessing that access if we are on holidaya [07:41] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] because we don't have access to the landline [07:41] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] so there's your 'security' [07:41] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] congrats, you made access to the account work from just one single household, or let people guess a 4-digit access code [07:41] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] hardly 'secure' [07:42] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] side note (funny): [07:42] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] to contact paypal or get a phone number you need to first log in [07:43] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] so how can you contact them about being locked out in the first place? You cannot log in, that is fundamentally the problem [07:44] techrights-bot NEWS #EestiRahvusringhling #Surveillance #Privacy IT minister: #EU digital services should be available equally across union https://news.err.ee/1608237111/it-minister-eu-digital-services-should-be-available-equally-across-union [07:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.err.ee | IT minister: EU digital services should be available equally across union | Economy | ERR [07:44] techrights-bot NEWS #TheVerge #Surveillance #Privacy The #FBI is trying to get IP addresses and phone numbers of people who read a USA Today article https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/5/22519653/usa-today-fbi-ip-address-identifying-info-request-florida-shooter [07:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | The FBI is trying to get IP addresses and phone numbers of people who read a USA Today article - The Verge [07:46] techrights-bot [Old] #SequoiaPGP #mozilla #encryption A Look at Two Recent CVEs in Thunderbird's #OpenPGP Support https://sequoia-pgp.org/blog/2021/05/22/202105-a-look-at-two-recent-cves-in-thunderbirds-openpgp-support/ http://techrights.org/2020/11/20/sequoia-pgp-and-ipfs/ [07:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sequoia-pgp.org | Blog - A Look at Two Recent CVEs in Thunderbird's OpenPGP Support [07:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Better Privacy Than Pretty Good Privacy | Techrights [07:48] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [07:48] *asusbox (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [07:49] techrights-bot There are people I can no longer encrypt E-mail messages to because a month or so ago #mozilla #thunderbird broke some aspects or parts of #openpgp support and has not yet fixed that, at least because of Debian downstream (I saw no fixes upstream, either). This is disappointing and frustrating. The contingency so far was messaging over OpenSSH. But this is not a long-term plan. [07:51] techrights-bot "Backer's nonprofit, the American Conservation Coalition, held what it billed as the country's first conservative climate rally in Miami, part of an effort by the 23-year-old activist to convince fellow right-leaning Americans they don't have to be liberals to support action on the issue." https://news.trust.org/item/20210605095107-m3ewb/ [07:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.trust.org | U.S. conservatives stake claim to climate activism at Miami rally [07:54] techrights-bot Low-cost AMD Mini PC offered with AMD 3020e APU or #Ryzen R1305 embedded processor - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/06/06/low-cost-amd-mini-pc-amd-3020e-apu-ryzen-r1305-embedded-processor/ #Linux #GNU #Hardware #cnxsoftware [07:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Low-cost AMD Mini PC offered with AMD 3020e APU or Ryzen R1305 embedded processor - CNX Software ● Jun 06 [08:07] schestowitz MinceR: am working on "The New Generation of Vendor Lockin" [08:07] schestowitz article [08:07] schestowitz OSPS and all [08:07] schestowitz feature churn [08:07] schestowitz frequent releases [08:07] schestowitz anything else? [08:18] rbraun frequent releases definitely is a pretty common way to increase lockin now :/ [08:18] schestowitz yes [08:18] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.31 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 105.65 swarm size (avg): 238.84 [08:19] schestowitz anyone wanna check my draft? [08:20] schestowitz I added rust and linux as examples [08:36] *asusbox2 (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [08:38] *asusbox has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [08:39] *asusbox (~rianne@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:99f:dc46:7836:ed0a) has joined #techrights [08:42] *asusbox2 has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [08:42] schestowitz draft: http://techrights.org/2021/06/06/risk-of-feature-churn/ [08:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The New Generation of Vendor Lockin, Even in Open Clothing | Techrights [08:48] techrights-bot The New Generation of Vendor Lock-in, Even in 'Open' Clothing http://techrights.org/2021/06/06/risk-of-feature-churn/ #osps #proprietarySoftware #freesw #openwashing #lockin [08:52] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [08:52] *asusbox has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [08:55] *asusbox (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [08:55] *rianne_ (~rianne@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:99f:dc46:7836:ed0a) has joined #techrights ● Jun 06 [09:02] *WinterStar has quit (Quit: WeeChat 3.1) [09:06] techrights-bot #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151984 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [09:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [09:06] techrights-bot #Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151982 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [09:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [09:07] buzzert schestowitz: why do i have to run javascript in order to use http://techrights.org/site-archives ? [09:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Site Archives (Download) | Techrights [09:07] techrights-bot 5 handy guides to #freesw for #teachers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151983 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [09:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 5 handy guides to open source for teachers | Tux Machines [09:07] schestowitz buzzert: good question [09:07] schestowitz it's how this thing is built for expansiob [09:07] schestowitz otherwise you're have 31,000 URLs in one page [09:08] buzzert i think you can do that with CSS [09:08] schestowitz and big strain on DB [09:08] schestowitz with CSS it would not load on demand [09:08] buzzert they cant just link to other pages? [09:08] schestowitz that exists already, sort of [09:08] schestowitz in the right-hand sidebar under monthly archives [09:09] techrights-bot #IRC Proceedings: Saturday, June 05, 2021 http://techrights.org/2021/06/06/irc-log-050621/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/06/irc-log-050621/ [09:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Saturday, June 05, 2021 | Techrights [09:10] techrights-bot The New Generation of #VendorLockin , Even in Open Clothing http://techrights.org/2021/06/06/risk-of-feature-churn/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/06/risk-of-feature-churn/ [09:16] *asusbox2 (~rianne@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:99f:dc46:7836:ed0a) has joined #techrights [09:18] *asusbox has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [09:20] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 23.80 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 21.80 swarm size (avg): 238.88 [09:24] techrights-bot New: BBS @ Freenode https://bbs.freenode.net/ [09:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bbs.freenode.net | freenode BBS [09:39] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [09:39] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [09:39] *WinterStar (WinterStar@gateway/vpn/mullvad/winterstar) has joined #techrights [09:41] *rianne (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [09:42] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [09:55] *v8 has quit (Quit: www.freenode.net) [09:55] *v8 (~MurdochW@freenode/staff/v8) has joined #techrights ● Jun 06 [10:04] techrights-bot An Explanation of IRC Techrights.org (Our Self-Hosted #IRC Network) http://techrights.org/2021/06/06/self-hosted-irc/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/06/self-hosted-irc/ [10:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-An Explanation of IRC.Techrights.org (Our Self-Hosted IRC Network) | Techrights [10:08] techrights-bot #assange is a human being https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/1400929927785025536 #wikileaks [10:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wikileaks: Julian Assange's partner @stellamoris1 gives heartfelt plea for release of the @WikiLeaks publisher at todays Genev https://t.co/j51DAbrqDJ [10:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wikileaks: Julian Assange's partner @stellamoris1 gives heartfelt plea for release of the @WikiLeaks publisher at todays Genev https://t.co/j51DAbrqDJ [10:14] *asusbox2 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [10:14] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [10:23] *gustaf (~gerikson@165.227.165.91) has left #techrights ("WeeChat 2.8") [10:31] techrights-bot NEWS #BBC #Censorship #Microsoft says error caused 'Tank Man' Bing censorship https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-57367100 liars, liars, liars. #billBC as their megaphone, manned by Microsoft UK execs and repeatedly bribed by #billgates [10:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Microsoft says error caused 'Tank Man' Bing censorship - BBC News [10:34] techrights-bot NEWS #BBC #PressFreedom US to stop seizing reporters' records in leak investigations https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-57371402 [10:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | US to stop seizing reporters' records in leak investigations - BBC News [10:40] techrights-bot #nigeria realises too late that putting all its eggs in #socialControlMedia corporations was a grave mistake https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/04/nigeria-suspends-twitter-after-presidents-tweet-was-deleted so they banned it, and now they HAVE NO VOICE! Stupid! Didn't think ahead... [10:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Nigeria suspends Twitter access after presidents tweet was deleted | Nigeria | The Guardian [10:41] techrights-bot Second time in a year that #twitter bans or censors a running president, now overseas too https://cracked.com/article_30452_nigerias-government-suspends-twitter-for-deleting-presidents-tweet.html see https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-34474798 [10:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Nigeria's Government Suspends Twitter For Deleting President's Tweet | Cracked.com [10:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Meet Twitter's second biggest shareholder, Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal - BBC News [10:44] techrights-bot NEWS #VOANews #Monopolies #G7 Nations Reach Historic Deal to Tax Big Multinationals https://www.voanews.com/europe/g-7-nations-reach-historic-deal-tax-big-multinationals well overdue, do the same to individuals!! https://www.reuters.com/article/us-offshore-wealth-idUSBRE86L03U20120722 [10:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.voanews.com | G-7 Nations Reach Historic Deal to Tax Big Multinationals | Voice of America - English [10:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Super rich hold $32 trillion in offshore havens | Reuters [10:45] *asusbox2 (~rianne@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:99f:dc46:7836:ed0a) has joined #techrights [10:45] *rianne_ (~rianne@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:99f:dc46:7836:ed0a) has joined #techrights [10:54] *guysoft42 (~guysoft@2a0d:6fc1:2:1f00:62c8:bcf6:36dd:7a3a) has joined #techrights [10:56] techrights-bot Never Ever Let Those Who Expose #Corruption Be Framed as Public Enemies http://techrights.org/2021/06/06/reporters-not-public-enemies/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/06/reporters-not-public-enemies/ [10:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Never Ever Let Those Who Expose Corruption Be Framed as Public Enemies | Techrights ● Jun 06 [11:07] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [11:07] *asusbox2 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [11:18] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 40.20 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 33.76 swarm size (avg): 238.93 ● Jun 06 [12:06] techrights-bot >[old] #RNZ #nz #hollywood #imperialism @KimDotcom loses bid to delay Court of Appeal hearing https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/441853/kim-dotcom-loses-bid-to-delay-court-of-appeal-hearing [12:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rnz.co.nz | Kim Dotcom loses bid to delay Court of Appeal hearing | RNZ News [12:09] techrights-bot When you say "I have a Twitter account" you are technically correct. It's a #Twitter account. It belongs to Twitter. You're only a guest in that account. See what happened in #nigeria just now: https://text.npr.org/1003506918 [12:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-text.npr.org | Nigeria Suspends Twitter After It Deleted A Tweet By The President [12:09] techrights-bot NEWS #RNZ #hollywood #imperialism Mega.nz cannot rule out hosting data from [crackers] https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport/audio/2018797823/mega-nz-cannot-rule-out-hosting-data-from-hackers [12:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rnz.co.nz | Mega.nz cannot rule out hosting data from hackers | RNZ [12:09] techrights-bot [Old] #NewZealandHerald #hollywood #imperialism @KimDotcom in line for new taxpayer payout after court rules mistakes made over 52 Privacy Act requests https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/kim-dotcom-in-line-for-new-taxpayer-payout-after-court-rules-mistakes-made-over-52-privacy-act-requests/C455BEMN3QGPI4DR2CS5JZ2EBI/ [12:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nzherald.co.nz | Kim Dotcom in line for new taxpayer payout after court rules mistakes made over 52 Privacy Act requests - NZ Herald [12:10] techrights-bot [Old] #SuffNZ #nz @KimDotcom may get compensation from taxpayer for breaches of his #privacy rights https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/123354782/kim-dotcom-may-get-compensation-from-taxpayer-for-breaches-of-his-privacy-rights [12:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Kim Dotcom may get compensation from taxpayer for breaches of his privacy rights | Stuff.co.nz [12:11] techrights-bot old: #nz besieged by #hollywood https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/06/discussing-doomsday-with-kim-dotcom-i-felt-ashamed-id-seen-him-as-a-ridiculous-figure [12:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Discussing Doomsday with Kim Dotcom, I felt ashamed I'd seen him as a ridiculous figure | New Zealand | The Guardian [12:12] techrights-bot old: Kim Dotcom can be extradited to US but can also appeal https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-54809226 [12:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Kim Dotcom can be extradited to US but can also appeal - BBC News [12:14] techrights-bot #geminiProtocol does not mean server side scripting is not possible. Common misconception. https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006625.html [12:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | [server question] What can be done with server side scripting? [12:16] techrights-bot #Thunderbird 78.11.0 recognizes gemini:// URLs ! https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006627.html #mozilla #geminiProtocol #geminiSpace [12:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Thunderbird 78.11.0 recognizes gemini:// URLs ! [12:16] *mmu_man (~revol@82-65-227-82.subs.proxad.net) has joined #techrights [12:17] techrights-bot Good move from #mozilla !! https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006629.html #geminiProtocol #geminiSpace [12:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Re: Thunderbird 78.11.0 recognizes gemini:// URLs ! [12:18] techrights-bot "I had a manager who liked to try and micro manage me at #IBM . My solution...I was buddies with the GM and went around my manager and worked directly with the GM. Man did that pi-s my manager off. He couldn't touch me and he knew it. LOL. Suck it ZL." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bb9lDj3#replies [12:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Need advice. How to tackle with micro management - post regarding IBM layoffs [12:19] techrights-bot Minutes ago: "I coasted in my role at #IBM and did nothing for years. Got paid damn well for it too. Suckers." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bcg7eF3#replies [12:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | IBM is a joke - post regarding IBM layoffs [12:36] techrights-bot #billgates with his greed and arrogance has become the world's GREATEST barrier to mass #vaccination ... as people who rightly hate this sociopath now associate him with everything https://www.maskexemptions.info/uploads/4/4/2/3/44237665/ssrco-classic-tee-womens-fafafa-ca443f4786-front-alt-tall-three-quarter-750x1000_orig.jpg [12:38] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] Ariadne: good news! We got more EPO leaks [12:38] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] Ariadne: I also did 2-3 posts today (one-hour video uploading now) to explain our policy on IRC and all [12:39] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] I briefed MinceR on the situation wrt to keeping abuse at bat, so mjg59 (I know he reads it) can stop those smears by proxy [12:39] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] *at bay [12:39] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] soon we'll have some smoking gun articles on EPO [12:39] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] it's changing the EPO in a major way already [12:44] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] This is all very promising. Made my day. [12:44] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] I did not sign up to watch the hearing, but based on what I read about it there was quite a "shitshow" with attempts to call every counterargument "inadmissible" (deja vu of 2019's 'Haar question'). [12:48] techrights-bot "Bill GatesJeffrey Epstein relationship have begun trickling out following the Gatess divorce announcement, the strong evidence pointing to their relationship beginning decades prior to 2011 continues to be covered up by the medianot necessarily to protect Bill but to protect Microsoft." https://unlimitedhangout.com/2021/05/investigative-reports/the-cover-up-continues-the-truth-about-bill-gates-microsoft-and- [12:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Cover-Up Continues: The Truth About Bill Gates, Microsoft, and Jeffrey Epstein - unlimitedhangout.com [12:56] schestowitz > https://unlimitedhangout.com/2021/05/investigative-reports/the-cover-up-continues-the-truth-about-bill-gates-microsoft-and-jeffrey-epstein/ [12:56] schestowitz Before what Oliva dubbed 'free software 9/11' I told RMS by E-mail that it looked like he had been made a sacrificial lamb. [12:58] schestowitz This is being discussed by the FSF's Board too [12:58] schestowitz Apparently they recognise that there's a bit of a decoy from bigger scandals ● Jun 06 [13:03] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [13:03] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [13:04] *rianne (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [13:04] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [13:06] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: The paste is for reference as it contains a screenshot that supports my point. [13:06] techrights-bot Weve added to the pool of #IRC servers out there; theres hope that IRC can be expanded in terms of adoption and use, with pertinent communities and sites taking control of their communications instead of relying on third parties http://techrights.org/2021/06/06/self-hosted-irc/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.or [13:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-An Explanation of IRC.Techrights.org (Our Self-Hosted IRC Network) | Techrights [13:07] techrights-bot Theres a longstanding issue and a familiar pattern wherein those whose crimes/corruption get exposed try to project and basically cast their critics as the real criminals (or thought criminals); dont fall for it http://techrights.org/2021/06/06/reporters-not-public-enemies/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org [13:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Never Ever Let Those Who Expose Corruption Be Framed as Public Enemies | Techrights [13:07] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] XRevan86: aboyt gandi? [13:08] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] I'd rather not revisit the IRC wars too much tbh [13:08] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] we finally have some calm [13:08] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] and people are back to work [13:08] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] no more blog posts about move here, there, this thing is evil, this is great... [13:08] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] we need to stop that infighting in general tbh [13:08] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] I got some major leaks from EPO [13:09] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] and am working hard to expose them in the coming week, in a multi-party fashion [13:09] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: Yes. I think a lot of people think that what tomaw did was add his OTP client as an authentication factor barring Andrew's access. [13:09] psydroid we need to build bridges to cross the river to the land of free software [13:09] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] would rather not write about IRC, or other sorts of 'distractions' (what I consider them to be to our goals) [13:09] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] psydroid and eliminate software patents [13:09] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] first in Europe [13:09] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] then elsewhere [13:10] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] it's easier from Europe [13:10] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: But the evidence points to tomaw just adding a 2FA requirement for everyone with access to the domains. [13:10] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] did they get a chance to log in and add a "factor"? [13:10] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] If not, it can have the effect of shutting them out [13:10] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] And that makes a lot of difference, especially when lawyers are involved. [13:11] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] unless tomaw then added a "factor" (like phone number) for rasengan etc. [13:11] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] I got shut out from paypal last week [13:11] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] because of that factor BS [13:12] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: I'm using Gandi screenshots to show that the account and the organisation are separate. [13:12] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] 2FA, where one factor I do not have [13:12] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] and to change that I need to log in, which obviously I cannot (catch-22) [13:12] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] if rasengan was not really shut out, then he could log in and change it back [13:12] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] no need for lawyers to get involved [13:13] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] anyway, I'm back to writing about EPO [13:13] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] anything that revives IRC insfighting harms all projects involved [13:13] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] libreoffice, gentoo etc. [13:13] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] we lost 1-2 weeks worth of work [13:13] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] and some people do not move across networks [13:13] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] bbiab [13:13] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] gotta write urgently [13:14] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: 1. add TOTP to the account; 2. remove the requirement; 3. remove TOTP [13:18] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: It's very easy to imagine that an organisation in Gandi can have a setting to require 2FA for prudency. [13:19] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 16.91 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 29.41 swarm size (avg): 238.95 [13:20] techrights-bot We are working to release a very important article about the #epo ... eta 1 hour [13:39] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: "if rasengan was not really shut out, then he could log in and change it back" not if he really doesn't want to add 2FA to the account to be able to access the organisation. [13:40] *schestowitz hates 2fa [13:40] schestowitz usually pressures people to allow MORE surveillance [13:40] schestowitz for supposed 'security' [13:40] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: https://news.gandi.net/en/2019/01/secure-your-domain-with-two-factor-authentication/ [13:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.gandi.net | Secure your domain with two-factor authentication - Gandi News [13:41] schestowitz anyway, I am working on "EPO G 1/21 Update: Fresh Allegations of Cronyism Against Campinos " [13:41] schestowitz would rather leave the IRC wars behind [13:41] schestowitz and expose corruption instead [13:47] alextee[m] oh wow there's some trolls on the libera side ● Jun 06 [14:07] schestowitz of which channel? [14:11] alextee[m] #techrights [14:11] alextee[m] there were some people badmouthing you [14:11] alextee[m] I left [14:12] schestowitz so they hijacked it [14:12] schestowitz like I thought they would [14:12] schestowitz But P-C trolling is likely OK by their standard and even hijacking namespace/site names [14:13] schestowitz MinceR: should we take over that channel to mute it? They obviously misrepresent us [14:13] schestowitz on purpose [14:14] alextee[m] well topic says "unofficial" [14:14] schestowitz they should use #techrights-unofficial or something [14:14] schestowitz they mislead people into thinking it's a channel for the site [14:15] alextee[m] I'd register the #techrights namespace just to prevent them from using it [14:16] schestowitz I guess they need to be mailed to register it [14:16] psydroid so we have good #techrights about tech and evil #techrights about sex and other off-topic things now [14:16] schestowitz they're free not to use an imposter channel [14:16] schestowitz MinceR already has a registered nick there [14:16] schestowitz I don't want to register on another network [14:22] techrights-bot #EPO G 1/21 Update: Fresh Allegations of Cronyism Against #Campinos http://techrights.org/2021/06/06/epo-campinos-cronyism/ #europe #corruption #patents [14:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO G 1/21 Update: Fresh Allegations of Cronyism Against Campinos | Techrights [14:27] psydroid people will find out sooner rather than later that it's an impostor channel anyway [14:30] schestowitz yeah [14:30] schestowitz good thinking i suppose, anyway I won't register there just to take a channel we don't want anyway [14:30] schestowitz if MinceR wants to take control, fine with me [14:30] schestowitz it's an imposter channel [14:36] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: Have ye written that email yet? [14:36] techrights-bot Video: 'Shoot the Messenger' Tactics http://techrights.org/2021/06/06/video-response/ #epo #novell #censorship #corruption #europe [14:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Video: Shoot the Messenger Tactics | Techrights [14:39] techrights-bot #trump blog failed because it wrongly assumed #MAGA cult can digest entire paragraphs [14:41] techrights-bot At one point I was advised to ask #wikileaks to host a mirror of the #epo leaks and I spoke to #assange et al about it. Years down the line we're still online. http://techrights.org/wiki/EPO [14:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO - Techrights [14:43] techrights-bot "An open letter in support of Richard Matthew Stallman being reinstated by the Free Software Foundation" now signed by 6,740 people. It'll probably reach 7,000 at some point. Last week RMS said it would be needed... to shows that the media had lied about what people thought of him (and it still does!) [14:44] techrights-bot A video response to a defunct campaign of #defamation http://techrights.org/2021/06/06/video-response/ they start from falsehoods and try to build on top of them, as they did with LT and RMS [14:46] *techrights-bot has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [14:47] *techrights-bot (~techright@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:9e47:addf:5b42:cd6d) has joined #techrights [14:50] techrights-bot #pirateParty #breyer https://chaos.social/@echo_pbreyer/106356548430440881 [14:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Patrick Breyer: "RT @EuropeanPirates@twitter.com On #ECIDay, p" - chaos.social [14:50] techrights-bot #rollingstone on stories that can 'fly' in #trumpland https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/meadows-doj-election-conspiracy-theories-1179185/ [14:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rollingstone.com | Meadows Pushed DOJ To Investigate Bogus Election Conspiracy Theories - Rolling Stone [14:54] MinceR 06 083644 < schestowitz> so they target them too? What's the motivation? [14:54] MinceR stirring up shit, i guess [14:55] schestowitz yes, for the "lols" and "shits and giggles" [14:56] techrights-bot #techrighrs IRC channel is only in irc.freenode.net and irc.techrights.org -- any other channels with that name are imposters (and I'm told trolls hijacked some channels with that name to libel us and incite against us). ● Jun 06 [15:03] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [15:03] *asusbox2 (~rianne@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:99f:dc46:7836:ed0a) has joined #techrights [15:04] techrights-bot Getting rejected by my dates coz i work at #ibm " https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bdNS6cB [15:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Getting rejected by my dates coz i work at ibm - post regarding IBM layoffs [15:05] techrights-bot An hour ago: "OP is right. I came here from a competitor and had no idea how bad things really were, but now it makes sense that nobody takes #IBM seriously anymore." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bcg7eF3#replies [15:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | IBM is a joke - post regarding IBM layoffs [15:05] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3MLHESXwAEbdGC?format=jpg heh [15:05] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] XRevan86: no, as schestowitz told me he didn't want that channel [15:05] techrights-bot 1 hour ago: "What are you talking about? The board tanked the company because they were too afraid to fire a female CEO. Its well known in the industry that #IBM was the first big corporate to bow to the cult of wokeness even at the expense of destroying their business." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bclKKqZ#replies [15:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | experiencing a cult like culture - post regarding IBM layoffs [15:06] techrights-bot 19 mins ago: "I would have left the #IBM in the initial 3-5 years after gaining some skills. Still I am preparing to leave as I am into 5+ years career in IBM. [...] So, prepare yourself and get out of IBM sooner if you are still early in your carrier. https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bcHegfR#replies [15:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | If you can go back in time - post regarding IBM layoffs [15:06] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: Do ye know anyone with a Gandi.net organisation access? [15:07] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] I really want to know for sure. [15:07] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] no [15:08] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] also, it seems unethical to register a channel just so we can close it [15:08] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] and i don't really see the need to have an extra channel on a network that is hostile to free software [15:09] schestowitz MinceR: yes [15:10] schestowitz I accept your view on that, and I suppose pointing out every now and then that it's fake can help [15:10] schestowitz or to remind people which are the REAL ones [15:10] schestowitz so as to not mention the imposters [15:12] techrights-bot Today in #Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151985 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [15:17] techrights-bot The Club Med cronyism of #BenotBattistelli continues under Antnio Campinos; people can see this, mention this, and the #EPO then censors these observations EPO G 1/21 Update: Fresh Allegations of Cronyism Against Campinos http://techrights.org/2021/06/06/epo-campinos-cronyism/ #Techrights #Europe #Corruption | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2 [15:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO G 1/21 Update: Fresh Allegations of Cronyism Against Campinos | Techrights [15:18] techrights-bot An unscripted video about some of the points covered this morning; in a nutshell, we continue to focus on exposing #corruption while those whose corruption we expose try hard to silence us http://techrights.org/2021/06/06/video-response/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/06/video-response/ [15:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Video: Shoot the Messenger Tactics | Techrights [15:19] *asusbox2 has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [15:19] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 19.70 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 60.30 swarm size (avg): 238.99 [15:20] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [15:26] MinceR allegedly this triggers windows defender, when sent via irc >> 06 161639 < sniff> someone sent me a pm saying what does it mean [15:26] MinceR (or maybe if it's logged from irc) [15:33] techrights-bot actually, #BSD #kqueue is a mountain of technical debt https://ariadne.space/2021/06/06/actually-bsd-kqueue-is-a-mountain-of-technical-debt/ #unix #irc #ircd [15:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ariadne.space | actually, BSD kqueue is a mountain of technical debt Ariadne's Space [15:36] techrights-bot Using #awk in #GNU #Linux https://linuxconcept.com/using-awk-in-linux/ #programming [15:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxconcept.com | Using awk in Linux - Linux Concept [15:37] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] windows defender... what does it defend? [15:37] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] the revenue source of snailoilCorp(r)? [15:37] MinceR it defends gator from being discovered and removed [15:37] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: They're the ones hostile to FOSS? [15:38] MinceR yes, they're the ones that attempted to cancel the FSF board so their suits could take over [15:38] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] Not a network that was taken with lawyers over a petty squabble? [15:38] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] what about bonzi buddy? [15:38] MinceR was microshit trying to buy the owner of bonzi buddy? [15:39] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] bonzi bought microsoft corp. [15:39] MinceR :> [15:39] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: Such as the person who's hosting techrights.org right now? [15:39] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] it wrote it off as bad investment [15:39] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] turned out it had been cooking the books all this time.. [15:39] MinceR yes, such as that one, though they alleged to want their signature removed [15:39] MinceR guess why i'm using freenode [15:40] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: They didn't back down from having issues with RMS being in FSF. [15:40] techrights-bot Controlling #Somfy roller shutters using an #ESP32 and #ESPHome https://www.die-welt.net/2021/06/controlling-somfy-roller-shutters-using-an-esp32-and-esphome/ [15:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Controlling Somfy roller shutters using an ESP32 and ESPHome | die-welt.net [15:41] *phebus (~phebus@fsf/member/phebus) has joined #techrights [15:41] MinceR then we have more reason for using freenode [15:42] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] Makes sense. People that are barely involved in FOSS have less chances of being accused to be against it. [15:43] MinceR certainly when compared to people who are involved in trying to cancel free software [15:44] techrights-bot Days ago someone who knows #intel told me it was in trouble. Here's some new data too: https://boilingsteam.com/amd-on-the-brink-of-taking-over-survey-q2-2021/ Intel killed itself, then outsourced it to #microsoft http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks [15:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | AMD on the Brink of Taking Over - Survey Q2 2021 - Boiling Steam [15:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intel leaks - Techrights [15:45] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] MinceR: like people using "OPEN SOURCE" on their MACS [15:45] MinceR someone says it was actually an upstream firewall that killed the connection of the user who received that php thing above [15:45] MinceR :> [15:45] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] by Open Source they mean bloated www frameworks with JS... from shithub [15:45] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] yes, they looove open source... 'free stuff'... from Microsoft proprietary software monopoly [15:45] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] make evil beaded man go away!! f'ing hippie wants to take away ma hypePhone!! [15:46] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: I thought we agreed not to criticise Andrew for this %) [15:47] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] I know what you mean... [15:47] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] but he wasn't among the anti-FSF mob [15:47] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] quite the opposite [15:47] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] he was the BIGGEST FSF donor last year [15:47] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] months after the whole MIT thing [15:47] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] where Bill Stallman turned out to be connected to Jeff Gates [15:48] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] many other companies apparently withdrew [15:48] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] unless FSF just rejected their sponsorship, which I doubt.. [15:50] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] https://fsf.org/patrons/fy2020 it is listed [15:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | FSF patrons during fiscal year 2020 Free Software Foundation Working together for free software [15:50] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] after tall the cancel drama [15:50] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] where the mob can target companies [15:50] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] for 'daring' to associate with FSF [15:50] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] that's what IBM/Demahog does [15:50] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] "Cancel the jew" - Old Man Watson [15:50] MinceR dehomag [15:51] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] yeah, typo [15:51] MinceR Deutsche Hollerith-Maschinen GmbH [15:51] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] ? [15:51] MinceR lol [15:52] MinceR gog, magog and demagog [15:52] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] Dehomagoulag [15:52] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] Demagogue Bizniz Machines [15:55] techrights-bot Franois Marier: Upgrading an ext4 #filesystem for the year 2038 https://feeding.cloud.geek.nz/posts/upgrading-ext4-filesystem-for-y2k38/ #linux #kernel [15:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-feeding.cloud.geek.nz | Upgrading an ext4 filesystem for the year 2038 [15:55] techrights-bot "In recent months the #Linux #kernel bits have been coming together for Intel's DSA (Data Streaming Accelerator) and handling of the ENQCMD instructions along with related kernel work like on the XSAVES supervisor states." https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-Disable-ENQCMD [15:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Disables Intel's New ENQCMD Feature Since Kernel Code "Broken Beyond Repair" - Phoronix [15:56] techrights-bot Linux x86/x86_64 Will Now Always Reserve The First 1MB Of RAM - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-Always-Reserve-1MB #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/06/#latest [15:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux x86/x86_64 Will Now Always Reserve The First 1MB Of RAM - Phoronix [15:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [15:57] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] I thought XFS was the last one with a 2038 problem. ● Jun 06 [16:00] techrights-bot More Intel Alder Lake Enablement Landing For #Coreboot - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=More-Alder-Lake-For-Coreboot #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/06/#latest [16:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-More Intel Alder Lake Enablement Landing For Coreboot - Phoronix [16:09] *CrystalMath (~coderain@reactos/developer/theflash) has joined #techrights [16:14] alextee[m] i like simple solutions like this [16:15] alextee[m] not sure if it impacts systems with not much available ram [16:37] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/funny-internet-comments-05-07-21-4.jpg [16:41] *bruhstrone (~bruhstron@pissnet/staff/noteness) has joined #techrights [16:41] *noteness has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [16:44] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Germanic_calendars [16:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Early Germanic calendars - Wikipedia [16:44] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] > As an example, the Runic calendar developed in medieval Sweden was lunisolar, fixing the beginning of the year at the first full moon after winter solstice. [16:45] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: That includes Swedes [16:45] MinceR :) [16:45] MinceR don't expect raging crybullies to know about that, though [16:46] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] That all Indo-European cultures care about lunar cycles is obvious from https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Indo-European/m%E1%B8%97h%E2%82%81n%CC%A5s#Proto-Indo-European [16:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | Reconstruction:Proto-Indo-European/mhns - Wiktionary [16:50] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] > The original Proto-Indo-European lexeme for "moon" was apparently *mhns, and *lwksneh may have originated as a later poetic synonym. [16:50] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] Makes sense. [16:51] *saint_dogbert (~username@unaffiliated/phobos-anomaly/x-6744724) has joined #techrights [16:57] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runic_calendar "The two sliding halves are aligned and set at the beginning of each year by observing the first full moon after the first new moon after the winter solstice. The first full moon also marked the date of Disting, a pagan feast and a fair day also known as Thing of all Swedes." [16:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Runic calendar - Wikipedia [16:58] MinceR neat ● Jun 06 [17:01] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/funny-internet-comments-05-07-21-15.jpg [17:05] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [17:05] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [17:05] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [17:05] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [17:10] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: https://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/31800000/Haruhi-s-X-mas-kyon-the-melancholy-of-haruhi-suzumiya-31853143-1000-1436.jpg them Japanese and their cultural appropriation of Christmas! [17:11] MinceR lol [17:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Resolving timed out after 10519 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/31800000/Haruhi-s-X-mas-kyon-the-melancholy-of-haruhi-suzumiya-31853143-1000-1436.jpg ) [17:12] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] Has any American invited them? [17:19] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 36.40 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 51.55 swarm size (avg): 239.04 [17:19] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] labour camps are actually labour import substitution [17:22] MinceR (cat) (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOarhHJU-xg [17:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cat meowing very loudly with extraordinary speed - YouTube [17:28] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] Thanks to Dmitry Kiselyov for explaining this to me. [17:30] techrights-bot #ibm "Vision changes every two years from Watson > cloud pals > OpenShift > ?. Ultimately, they can't be top in hybrid cloud if their public cloud sucks." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bcHegfR#replies [17:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | If you can go back in time - post regarding IBM layoffs [17:31] techrights-bot "In my region AWS is full of ex IBMers. I had an employee recently leave for AWS and she said its like a mini IBM complete with toxic politics and favoritism." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bcvmPjl#replies #ibm [17:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Guys, just leave - post regarding IBM layoffs [17:33] techrights-bot "Oh wow!! Another VP like we dont really have enough VPs. When is #IBM going to understand that until management is cut in half no progress will be made!!" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bbaVIOi#replies [17:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Would you advise your kid to work at IBM? - post regarding IBM layoffs [17:40] techrights-bot Chromebook ready?- The New Indian Express https://www.newindianexpress.com/lifestyle/tech/2021/jun/06/chromebook-ready-2311399.html #newindianexpress | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/06/#latest [17:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newindianexpress.com | Chromebook ready?- The New Indian Express [17:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [17:40] techrights-bot Before #mozilla #firefox itself perishes https://www.osnews.com/story/133237/tenfourfox-classilla-wind-down-development/ [17:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-TenFourFox, Classilla wind down development OSnews [17:47] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/2021/05/06/tumblr-gets-deep-05-06-21/ [17:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleated-jeans.com | 21 Funny Tumblr Posts That Deserve Your Attention Today [17:54] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: A banger after a banger [17:54] MinceR but no mash? [17:55] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: mash.ru sold out to the state [17:55] MinceR :( [17:56] MinceR and i never let Korax live long enough to start creating mash monsters ● Jun 06 [18:05] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] https://static-cdn.spot.im/production/launcher/tags/v2.54.4/launcher/conversation.svg [18:06] MinceR ? [18:06] techrights-bot Links 6/6/2021: Visually Stunning Week in Tok and OpenPOWER SpiderMonkey JIT http://techrights.org/2021/06/06/openpower-spidermonkey-jit/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/06/openpower-spidermonkey-jit/ [18:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 6/6/2021: Visually Stunning Week in Tok and OpenPOWER SpiderMonkey JIT | Techrights [18:06] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: I wonder if this is a fad. [18:06] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] it's everywhere now [18:07] techrights-bot Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151986 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [18:07] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] Cannot load something quickly enough? Show a mock-up of what it supposed to look like. [18:07] MinceR ah, yes [18:07] MinceR well, it's another tumor on the "modern" web [18:07] techrights-bot #Games : Mighty Goose, Top Games, and Gaming Stats http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151987 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Mighty Goose, Top Games, and Gaming Stats | Tux Machines [18:07] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] It looked kinda cool at first but now I'm annoyed. [18:07] techrights-bot #Kernel : Year 2038, #ENQCMD , and 1MB of RAM Reserved http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151988 #Linux #TuxMachines [18:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: Year 2038, ENQCMD, and 1MB of RAM Reserved | Tux Machines [18:08] techrights-bot #GNOME , Google Summer of Code, and GIMP http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151989 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME, Google Summer of Code, and GIMP | Tux Machines [18:08] MinceR it usually means "i won't load the plain text here unless you let me run scripts for 9001 more domains" [18:08] techrights-bot #IBM : #OpenPOWER JavaScript JIT for Firefox and Red Hat Summit 2021 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151992 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM: OpenPOWER JavaScript JIT for Firefox and Red Hat Summit 2021 | Tux Machines [18:08] techrights-bot #Programming and #Hardware Hacking http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151991 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming and Hardware Hacking | Tux Machines [18:09] MinceR can't they even host their ethereum mining scripts on their own webserver anymore? [18:09] techrights-bot #Microsoft , #Security Issues, and #Censorship http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151990 #TuxMachines [18:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft, Security Issues, and Censorship | Tux Machines [18:09] techrights-bot Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151993 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [18:14] *asusbox2 (~rianne@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:99f:dc46:7836:ed0a) has joined #techrights [18:14] *rianne (~rianne@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:99f:dc46:7836:ed0a) has joined #techrights [18:25] *vaio has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [18:29] schestowitz [18:08] it usually means "i won't load the plain text here unless you let me run scripts for 9001 more domains" [18:29] schestowitz developer.redhat.com [18:29] schestowitz they became like that [18:29] schestowitz JS or GTFO [18:29] schestowitz it happened 1-2 months ago [18:29] schestowitz Dehomag impact, instant impact [18:30] alextee[m] gitlab does that too, except it uses a single domain [18:30] schestowitz gitlab loads up ok to me [18:30] schestowitz without JS [18:30] alextee[m] without js? wow [18:30] alextee[m] maybe they changed it [18:30] schestowitz but maybe the locally-hosted ("community") only [18:31] alextee[m] i remember it didn't let you view files without js [18:31] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: That's almost hard to believe [18:31] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: Ye are not a LibreJS user, right? [18:31] schestowitz about gitlab? [18:31] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] right [18:31] schestowitz maybe only some features are usable [18:31] schestowitz I did not try them all [18:32] schestowitz it's also minimal on images [18:32] schestowitz mostly css instead of images in gitlab instances [18:32] alextee[m] https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/cairo/cairo/-/blob/master/src/Makefile.am [18:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gitlab.freedesktop.org | src/Makefile.am master cairo / cairo GitLab [18:32] MinceR (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DMg6hUudHE [18:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Worse Than Walmart: Dell G5 5000 PCs Garbage Parts & Hidden Charges - YouTube [18:33] alextee[m] that file shows a loading icon here before actually showing the file contents, not sure how it works without js [18:33] schestowitz yes, that sort of feature in this particular version might need JS [18:34] schestowitz GNU ranked git repos and hosting based on usability without JS [18:34] schestowitz https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/discuss-gnustep/2015-12/msg00188.html [18:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.gnu.org | Re: Please, no GitHub [18:35] schestowitz on licensing: https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-recommendations.en.html [18:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gnu.org | How to choose a license for your own work - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation [18:35] schestowitz https://www.gnu.org/software/repo-criteria-evaluation.en.html# [18:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gnu.org | GNU Ethical Repository Criteria Evaluations - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation [18:35] *alextee[m] < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/zwUqmYKdSpIPSDbiFpHpFzJx/message.txt > [18:35] alextee[m] hmm that was a common complaint of the gnu assembly people [18:36] alextee[m] I wonder if they tried volunteering [18:36] schestowitz they said there would be gitlab-based dev env for gnu [18:36] schestowitz but they keep missing their own deadlines [18:36] *saint_dogbert has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [18:36] schestowitz I hope it's still in the making [18:36] schestowitz they might even remove the JS trap in gitlab [18:37] schestowitz alextee[m]: gnu assembly people did not think much past "let's make another web site" [18:37] schestowitz to confuse people with messages that don't reveal what they really are [18:38] alextee[m] it's also a trademark violation [18:38] schestowitz IF it's registered [18:38] schestowitz but anyway [18:38] alextee[m] they're pretending to be GNU. GNU is a registered trademark of FSF [18:38] schestowitz yes, same domain, similar thing, similar name [18:38] alextee[m] even if it wasn't registered you still get protection if you've been using it [18:38] schestowitz they tease the FSF to get litigious I guess [18:38] schestowitz like SFLC did SFC [18:39] schestowitz bbiab [18:39] schestowitz I want to record a video [18:41] *asusbox2 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [18:42] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [18:46] *asusbox2 (~rianne@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:99f:dc46:7836:ed0a) has joined #techrights [18:47] *rianne (~rianne@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:99f:dc46:7836:ed0a) has joined #techrights ● Jun 06 [19:12] *phebus has quit (Quit: POKE 1,0) [19:16] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [19:16] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [19:18] *phebus (~phebus@fsf/member/phebus) has joined #techrights [19:19] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 26.53 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 42.03 swarm size (avg): 239.08 [19:19] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [19:20] *asusbox2 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [19:50] techrights-bot #covid19 new cases in #uk 11,022 (49.0% MORE than one week ago). Get ready for another lock-in. -23.4% in testing compared to a week ago, so imagine how many cases if they tested as much as a week ago? 15k in a day? On a SUNDAY?!? https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/ [19:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/ ) [19:50] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@76-234-138-224.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) has left #techrights [19:50] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@76-234-138-224.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) has joined #techrights [19:50] *AdmFubar has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [19:53] techrights-bot Sorry. I mispoke. That's 11k+ more #covid19 cases compared to a week ago for the entire week. But anyway, it's increasing in more than linear (almost exponential) pace/rates. #uk #lockdown seems inevitable again. The psychopath Pry Minister thinks bodies "piling up" is a joke... [19:57] *tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] looks at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shibboleth#Origin , then looks at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iotation#Sound_change [19:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Shibboleth - Wikipedia [19:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Iotation - Wikipedia [19:57] *asusbox2 (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [19:57] *rianne (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [19:57] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] The original Shibboleth revolved around palatalisation. [19:58] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@76-234-138-224.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) has joined #techrights ● Jun 06 [20:02] *bruhstrone has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [20:02] AdmFubar her is a new twist on ransomware attacks https://www.databreaches.net/capcom-facing-12-million-lawsuit-for-allegedly-using-artists-photos-without-permission/ [20:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.databreaches.net | Capcom Facing $12 Million Lawsuit For Allegedly Using Artists Photos Without Permission [20:02] *bruhstrone (~bruhstron@pissnet/staff/noteness) has joined #techrights [20:04] *bruhstrone is now known as noteness [20:07] techrights-bot "It sounds like Watson Health is on Life Support. Maybe #IBM will just pull the plug, and let Watson Health die a natural death." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b148I3m#replies [20:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | WATSON HEALTH - post regarding IBM layoffs [20:07] *TTwrs (~TTwrs@c-67-169-185-154.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #techrights [20:08] *TTwrs has quit (Client Quit) [20:18] techrights-bot The Giftkche of #Haar (Allegedly a Part of #Munich , as the #EPO s Enlarged Board of Appeal Refuses to Even Check) http://techrights.org/2021/06/06/the-giftkuche-of-haar-allegedly-a-part-of-munich-as-the-epos-enlarged-board-of-appeal-refuses-to-even-check/ [20:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Giftkche of Haar (Allegedly a Part of Munich, as the EPOs Enlarged Board of Appeal Refuses to Even Check) | Techrights [20:18] *asusbox2 has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [20:19] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [20:21] *TTwrs (~TTwrs@c-67-169-185-154.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #techrights [20:23] *asusbox2 (~rianne@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:99f:dc46:7836:ed0a) has joined #techrights [20:23] *rianne (~rianne@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:99f:dc46:7836:ed0a) has joined #techrights [20:26] techrights-bot Comparing #LinuxMint and #Fedora: Which One Should You Use? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151994 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Comparing Linux Mint and Fedora: Which One Should You Use? | Tux Machines [20:28] *TTwrs has quit (Quit: Leaving) [20:31] *asusbox (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [20:33] schestowitz AdmFubar: ransom? [20:34] *asusbox2 has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [20:38] baronhk1[m] John got a Roomba right after I left. He made a point of mentioning it when we were at lunch while he thought he was threatening me. I went back in to get more of my stuff while he was at work and there was so much trash and dirty clothes on the floor around it's base station that it couldn't have possibly been vacuuming anything. [20:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-con ) [20:39] baronhk1[m] $399 plus tax well spent. [20:39] MinceR :) [20:40] baronhk1[m] I always refused to buy one because I can vacuum around things pretty quickly and you only really need to once every two or three weeks anyway. [20:41] techrights-bot Beware the Spin and False Pretenses as #IBM and #Google Are Dangerous to #SoftwareFreedom as Well http://techrights.org/2021/06/06/giafam-and-software-freedom/ #freesw #microsoft [20:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Beware the Spin and False Pretenses as IBM and Google Are Dangerous to Software Freedom as Well | Techrights [20:42] AdmFubar schestowitz: not ransom.. they got caught using copyrighted material. their data was released and it had a few things in it that they should have been caught with [20:42] AdmFubar copyrights holders got wind of this and sued them [20:43] techrights-bot At this current pace, so far this month, #techrights capsule in gemini:// might serve over 200k pages this month. It's growing fast each month. [20:44] techrights-bot #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151995 #Linux #TuxMachines [20:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [20:45] techrights-bot #Git 2.32 Released With Numerous Improvements http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151996 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #Programming [20:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Git 2.32 Released With Numerous Improvements | Tux Machines [20:51] techrights-bot #Qpdf Tools - Beginners Tool to Compress, Split, Merge, Rotate PDF in Ubuntu | UbuntuHandbook https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2021/06/beginners-tool-compress-split-merge-rotate-pdf/ #UbuntuHandbook #FreeSW #GNU #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/06/#latest [20:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ubuntuhandbook.org | Qpdf Tools Beginners Tool to Compress, Split, Merge, Rotate PDF in Ubuntu | UbuntuHandbook [20:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [20:52] techrights-bot Experiment with #SSHFS https://journal.farhaan.me/experiment-with-sshfs | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/06/#latest [20:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-journal.farhaan.me | Experiment with SSHFS [20:56] techrights-bot Were working on another phase of coverage about G 1/21 a case that serves to demonstrate what a Giftkche (poison kitchen) this Swedish chef has been running for nearly half a decade (with his term proactively or prematurely extended for another half a decade) http://techrights.org/2021/06/06/the-giftkuche-of-haar-allegedly-a-part-of-munich-as-the-epos-enlarged-board-of-appeal-refuses-to-even-check/ [20:58] techrights-bot Theres a tendency to focus on just one Evil Empire (a reductionist over-simplification), but at the moment #softwarefreedom faces threats from GIAFAM and more; even Intel (the other I) is problematic http://techrights.org/2021/06/06/giafam-and-software-freedom/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/0 [20:58] baronhk1[m] https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/06/06/1003328413/new-type-of-covid-vaccine-could-debut-soon [20:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | COVID Vaccines From Novavax And Medicago Could Debut Soon : Shots - Health News : NPR ● Jun 06 [21:00] kingoffrance well the focus on one is how to get ppl to ignore the others, i think it is deliberate [21:00] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [21:01] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [21:01] kingoffrance i.e. it is how one draws attention off itself [21:01] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [21:01] baronhk1[m] 10 years ago, Microsoft put out anti-Chromebook ads where they made fun of it not wanting to run local software and how everything was in a browser and it was difficult to even get it to print a document out. [21:02] baronhk1[m] Then they tried to turn Windows into something like that. [21:02] *asusbox has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [21:02] baronhk1[m] Well, going on 10 years ago, that is. [21:02] psydroid and it never caught on, as expected [21:03] baronhk1[m] Chrome OS is getting to be more capable while Windows becomes more of a liability, and they respond by blasting every news outlet with Windows 11 and the new icons. [21:04] kingoffrance maybe the way i phrase that when i see someone fanatically against big tech or anything else, or just one of GIAFAM -- i assume they work or otherwise are invested in one of the others [21:05] AdmFubar https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2021/06/03/norton_crypto/ [21:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Antivirus that mines Ethereum sounds a bit wrong, right? Norton has started selling it The Register [21:06] MinceR lol [21:06] MinceR stay classy, symantec [21:06] MinceR or nortonlifelock, apparently [21:07] schestowitz bad for the planet [21:07] MinceR i wonder if Peter Norton is bothered by fraudsters using his name [21:07] schestowitz pour oil in Norton's mailbox [21:08] schestowitz when burning up energy means "profit" [21:08] schestowitz you know something went wrong [21:08] schestowitz it should become profitable to REDUCE energy consumption [21:08] baronhk1[m] The last Norton product I ever installed trashed a Windows 98 system. [21:08] MinceR i guess it can help with the heating in winter :> [21:09] MinceR (though heat pumps are more efficient) [21:09] baronhk1[m] It made all sorts of "additions" to the Windows shell that just caused it to glitch out and leak more. [21:09] techrights-bot Bash #Programming Best Practices https://linuxhint.com/bash-programming-best-practices/ [21:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxhint.com | Bash Programming Best Practices Linux Hint [21:10] baronhk1[m] It billed itself as a collection of utilities to make Windows more reliable, but in fact it made it worse than ever. [21:10] baronhk1[m] I ended up having to do a format and reinstall. [21:10] MinceR maybe that's how it works [21:10] baronhk1[m] I ended up getting a refund for Systemworks 98 but only after arguing with the store manager that it completely screwed up my computer. [21:10] MinceR windows is unreliable -> install norton utilities -> windows becomes worse than ever -> install a real OS in its place -> fixed [21:11] techrights-bot #CNBC doing corporate #propaganda painting RACIST companies as the solution to #racism https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/06/tech-industry-2020-anti-racism-commitments-progress-check.html see for example #microsoft http://techrights.org/2021/04/04/microsoft-nationalism/ [21:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnbc.com | Tech industry 2020 anti-racism commitments: Progress check [21:11] baronhk1[m] Mandrake ran okay on that PC. I had to replace one of those stupid Winmodems though. [21:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft: Nationalism As A Service (NaaS) | Techrights [21:11] baronhk1[m] Someone had created a reverse engineered kernel driver for it, but it usually just froze the system when you tried to dial out. [21:13] schestowitz MinceR: better than "naked PC" [21:14] techrights-bot Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151997 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [21:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [21:17] psydroid I only used the Winmodem in my computer for a few months before I took it out as we got broadband internet [21:18] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 35.73 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 84.86 swarm size (avg): 239.09 [21:20] *rianne (~rianne@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:99f:dc46:7836:ed0a) has joined #techrights [21:20] *asusbox (~rianne@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:99f:dc46:7836:ed0a) has joined #techrights [21:21] techrights-bot "Can't Watson Health just self-diagnose and self-medicate?" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b148I3m#replies #ibm #catastrophe http://techrights.org/2020/07/25/watson-offensive/ [21:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | WATSON HEALTH - post regarding IBM layoffs [21:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Watson is a Lot More Offensive Than Whitelist and Master | Techrights [21:22] techrights-bot "Can confirm. Have read first-hand AWS posts saying the same thing." #ibm #amazon #braindrain #exodus #aws https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bcvmPjl#replies [21:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Guys, just leave - post regarding IBM layoffs [21:23] schestowitz psydroid: I got my winmodem and connected to dalnet using mirc [21:23] schestowitz iirc [21:23] schestowitz the browser was some oddball thing whose name I cannot even recall anymore [21:24] schestowitz it's a floppy disk-sized browser [21:24] schestowitz maybe that even came with the modem, I can't recall for sure anymore [21:24] schestowitz not sure where trumptet winsock came from [21:24] schestowitz windows 3.11 or 95, I think 3.11 [21:25] schestowitz Linux was at 1.x [21:25] schestowitz GNU had no working kernel yet [21:25] schestowitz and Apple was super-expensive [21:28] *asusbox2 (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [21:29] techrights-bot #QtCreator and kdesrc-build Integration https://cordlandwehr.wordpress.com/2021/06/06/qtcreator-and-kdesrc-build-integration/ #kde #qt [21:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cordlandwehr.wordpress.com | QtCreator and kdesrc-build Integration cordlandwehr [21:30] psydroid schestowitz, I started using GNU/Linux in 1997 and in 2000 at home and in 2002 Windows was gone [21:30] techrights-bot #swpats apologist Michael Risch on #CFAA https://writtendescription.blogspot.com/2021/06/what-does-it-mean-to-exceed-authorized.html two laws that attack #programming professionals as if it's a crime to be curious or code... [21:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-writtendescription.blogspot.com | Written Description: What Does it Mean to Exceed Authorized Access? [21:31] *asusbox has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [21:31] baronhk1[m] WGN reporting on Walmart "closing on Thanksgiving to give our associates the day off". [21:31] psydroid yet there are still Windows "developers" who question using GNU/Linux as your main operating system for everything [21:31] baronhk1[m] Not on the part about how they take one of your sick days that takes 8 work weeks to earn back to pay you for it. [21:32] techrights-bot #uspto = #patent bubble, tons of #fakepatents granted just to raise money from fees and shield #monopolies https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/06/where-with-bubble.html [21:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Where we are with the GATT Bubble of 1995 | Patently-O [21:32] psydroid as if you need Windows on your desktop to do "real work" [21:33] psydroid like creating botnets [21:33] *asusbox2 has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [21:33] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [21:34] schestowitz they don't create botnets [21:34] schestowitz they make available their PCs [21:35] schestowitz like people who buy Norton proprietary crap make those machines available for mining [21:35] baronhk1[m] Well at least it protects you from other cryptominers. B-) [21:35] baronhk1[m] Maybe you'll earn enough to eventually pay for Norton. [21:36] baronhk1[m] Windows Defender is at least comparable to most of the paid antivirus programs, which is why they were panicking and funding studies to try to show that it wasn't. [21:37] techrights-bot "Specifically, in a 6-3 decision, the Court found that the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act ("CFAA") does not extend to an individual's accessing information over the internet for an improper purpose, so long as the individual would be entitled to access for a proper purpose." https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/06/van-buren-v-united-states-2021.html [21:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: Van Buren v. United States (2021) [21:37] baronhk1[m] Also why they give your OEM a HUGE cut if they preload a trial copy and lean on you to buy it. That way, most people don't even know Defender is there, doesn't cost anything, and turns itself on if you uninstall the trialware from the OEM. [21:38] baronhk1[m] I think that Swartz rushed to kill himself for nothing, honestly. [21:38] baronhk1[m] Things always look worse than they are. [21:38] techrights-bot Loaded headline from litigation firms-funded Dennis Crouch; just because you apply for a #patent doesn't make you "inventor", even if #uspto grants #patents for the sake of fee collection (many #fakepatents granted) https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/06/inventors-unhappy-patents.html [21:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Inventors Unhappy with their Patents | Patently-O [21:39] baronhk1[m] How is it logical that you're worried that the government might punish you, so you beat them to it and give yourself the death sentence when not even they can do that? [21:39] *asusbox2 (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [21:39] schestowitz you don't understand him [21:39] schestowitz and what went through his mind [21:40] baronhk1[m] He's dead forever now and his case would have definitely been overturned by this, and possibly sooner. [21:40] schestowitz the defence could bankrupt his famil [21:40] schestowitz they would have to remortgage the house [21:40] schestowitz also, he may have had depression prior to it [21:40] schestowitz and relationship issues etc. [21:40] schestowitz no doubt the gov. drove him over the edge [21:40] baronhk1[m] There's nothing compelling his family to fund his defense. [21:40] schestowitz so his dad said the government had "killed my son" (or something to that effect) [21:41] baronhk1[m] Mental health problems killed his son. [21:41] techrights-bot Best #MP3 Tagging Tools for #GNULinux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151998 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [21:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best MP3 Tagging Tools for Linux | Tux Machines [21:41] baronhk1[m] The government did literally bankrupt me with my defense and I didn't kill myself. [21:41] *rianne (~rianne@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:99f:dc46:7836:ed0a) has joined #techrights [21:42] baronhk1[m] I wouldn't have killed myself if I actually had to go to jail. I would have waited and started over. [21:42] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@76-234-138-224.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) has left #techrights [21:42] schestowitz you told me you did contemplate suicide [21:42] baronhk1[m] I thought about it. [21:42] baronhk1[m] I understand that your mind can go there. [21:43] MinceR 06 223626 < baronhk1[m]> Windows Defender is at least comparable to most of the paid antivirus programs, which is why they were panicking and funding studies to try to show that it wasn't. [21:43] baronhk1[m] You go there and then you're supposed to say "Fuck this. If they want a fight, they'll have a fight.". [21:43] MinceR it shouldn't be difficult to do better than defender [21:43] MinceR considering that the redmond mafia has malware they like that they give a free pass :> [21:44] schestowitz this past week they googlebombed "LINUX" to promote "Defender" [21:44] schestowitz what has Microsoft ever defended? [21:44] schestowitz Bill Gates? [21:44] baronhk1[m] That's part of denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance. The stages of grief that everyone goes through when something awful has happened. [21:44] schestowitz https://unlimitedhangout.com/2021/05/investigative-reports/the-cover-up-continues-the-truth-about-bill-gates-microsoft-and-jeffrey-epstein/ [21:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Cover-Up Continues: The Truth About Bill Gates, Microsoft, and Jeffrey Epstein - unlimitedhangout.com [21:44] baronhk1[m] It's not a linear process. It goes back and forth between stages sometimes, and in no particular order. [21:45] baronhk1[m] Denial doesn't really help, but it's usually the first thing that happens, and briefly. [21:45] baronhk1[m] Depression and bargaining too. [21:45] baronhk1[m] Anger is useful. [21:46] baronhk1[m] You need to accept it is happening and be angry about it. [21:47] baronhk1[m] I liked how Portal 2 made fun of this with Cave Johnson's monologue about his cancer. [21:48] baronhk1[m] When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade. Get mad! Demand to see life's manager! Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson cancer! Do you know who I am!? I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down, with the lemons! [21:48] techrights-bot #FreeSoftware : Best Educational Apps for #GNULinux and Best Typing Tutors for Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151999 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [21:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software: Best Educational Apps for Linux and Best Typing Tutors for Linux | Tux Machines [21:50] baronhk1[m] Getting caught up in despair doesn't get you anywhere. It gets you what happened to Swartz. [21:50] techrights-bot Far too many lousy and abstract #patents still being granted in the beehive of #patenttrolls https://dallasinnovates.com/dallas-invents-128-patents-granted-for-week-of-may-18/ #swpats [21:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dallasinnovates.com | Dallas Invents: 128 Patents Granted forWeekofMay18 Dallas Innovates [21:50] baronhk1[m] If you spend time wallowing in it, you will kill yourself and, hey, the government got what it wanted. [21:50] baronhk1[m] He was his own executioner. It didn't have to win. [21:51] techrights-bot KOL341 | ESEADE Lecture: Should We Release Patents on Vaccines? An Overview of Libertarian Property Rights and the Case Against IP https://www.stephankinsella.com/paf-podcast/kol341-eseade-lecture-should-we-release-patents-on-vaccines/ ABSOLUTELY! #patents aren't more important than patients! [21:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.stephankinsella.com | KOL341 | ESEADE Lecture: Should We Release Patents on Vaccines? An Overview of Libertarian Property Rights and the Case Against IP [21:51] baronhk1[m] It could say, "Look what we got him to do to himself, and you'll be next if you ever do something like this!". [21:53] baronhk1[m] That was the message for 8 years and he's still dead even though the Supreme Court just ruled 6-3 that the CFAA doesn't say what the government said it did. [21:53] techrights-bot "An open letter in support of Richard Matthew Stallman being reinstated by the Free Software Foundation" at 6,741. It's 1-5 per day, so should reach 6,800 this month. Maybe. See https://stallmansupport.org/updates.html [21:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallmansupport.org | In Support of Richard Stallman - Updates [21:54] baronhk1[m] That interpretation was too dangerous to let stand. It would basically let any website owner make a felony anything they didn't want their visitors to do. [21:54] techrights-bot These threads would have you believe that #amazon or #aws 'head-hunted' many #ibm workers https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bdNS6cB#replies [21:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Getting rejected by my dates coz i work at ibm - post regarding IBM layoffs [21:54] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [21:54] *asusbox2 has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [21:56] techrights-bot Company from #israel blackmailing #generics ... to deny #AccessToMedicine and basically undermine competitors in the public interest https://www.managingip.com/article/b1s38zzycj0b2l/how-teva-investigation-could-be-game-changer-for-divisionals #teva #greed [21:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | How Teva investigation could be game changer for divisionals | Managing Intellectual Property [21:56] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@76-234-138-224.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) has joined #techrights [21:57] techrights-bot The charlatan and fraud who runs #Tesla said they did not need #patents , but clearly he was lying https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-structural-battery-pack-patent-crashes-cell-failures/ [21:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.teslarati.com | Tesla structural battery pack patent hints at clever contingencies for crashes, cell failures [21:58] techrights-bot #india should face reality; it does not need #patents ... they don't help India in any perceivable way http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/06/04/recent-indian-case-law-on-standard-essential-patents/ see #swpats outline: http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Software_Patents_in_India [21:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Recent Indian Case Law on Standard Essential Patents - Kluwer Patent Blog [21:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Software Patents in India - Techrights [21:59] AdmFubar https://www.databreaches.net/hackers-breached-colonial-pipeline-using-compromised-password/ [21:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.databreaches.net | Hackers Breached Colonial Pipeline Using Compromised Password [21:59] psydroid patents are a way for western companies to assert their dominance over Indian ones ● Jun 06 [22:01] techrights-bot This is in no way beneficial to #Turkey, but only to some law firms that are based on Turkey and contribute to denial of #medicineh ttps://www.mondaq.com/turkey/patent/1074274/an-overview-of-patent-protection-for-pharmaceuticals #patents #monopolies [22:01] techrights-bot This is in no way beneficial to #Turkey, but only to some law firms that are based on Turkey and contribute to denial of #medicine https://www.mondaq.com/turkey/patent/1074274/an-overview-of-patent-protection-for-pharmaceuticals #patents #monopolies [22:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | An Overview Of Patent Protection For Pharmaceuticals - Intellectual Property - Turkey [22:03] techrights-bot No, #trademarks are not rights. https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=6a4157f5-288d-4f2a-bf1a-613af4b6a72a [22:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Protecting Trademarks Internationally: Best Options - Lexology [22:04] schestowitz psydroid: correct [22:04] schestowitz china is now piling up junk patents [22:04] schestowitz a hack around a bad system [22:04] schestowitz wipo doesn't mind [22:04] schestowitz so get popcorn [22:07] techrights-bot CFP for the Embedded #Linux Conference 2021 ends June 13th https://bootlin.com/blog/cfp-for-the-embedded-linux-conference-2021-ends-june-13th/ #kernel #bootlin [22:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-CFP for the Embedded Linux Conference 2021 ends June 13th - Bootlin's blog [22:08] techrights-bot " #Sublist3r is a tool to search and list subdomains easily. Sublist3r uses search engines and databases like Google, Bing, Yahoo, Ask, Baidu, Virustotal, Netcraft. ThreatCrowd, DNSdumpster, and ReverseDNS. Brute force ability was added with the integration of subbrute to Sublist3r." https://linuxhint.com/sublist3r-for-enumerate-subdomains/ [22:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxhint.com | Sublist3r for Enumerate Subdomains Linux Hint [22:08] techrights-bot Announcing the winners in the Month of #LibreOffice , May 2021! https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2021/06/06/announcing-the-winners-in-the-month-of-libreoffice-may-2021/ #freesw #opendocument [22:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.documentfoundation.org | Announcing the winners in the Month of LibreOffice, May 2021! - The Document Foundation Blog [22:10] *rianne (~rianne@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:f203:8cff:fe93:1f55) has joined #techrights [22:10] *asusbox2 (~rianne@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:99f:dc46:7836:ed0a) has joined #techrights [22:10] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] XRevan86: MinceR: I hope the trolls who lurk or read logs are at least aware of our intention to 'police' the name in LC [22:10] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] (if need be) [22:13] baronhk1[m] Matthew Garrett is just the modern version of the Linsux trolls who called you shitzferwitz and also called for you to ban me in 2009. [22:13] baronhk1[m] They were also backed by Microsoft. [22:13] baronhk1[m] So mjg59=linsux 2.0 [22:13] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] they are free to criticise us [22:13] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] but not in an IMPOSTER channel [22:13] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] that many may wrongly assume to be us [22:14] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] I wrote there two days ago that the channel is not techrights until it can be "policed". [22:15] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] it's not about the 'policing' [22:15] baronhk1[m] Well, by failing to register the channel and then lock it, anything goes. [22:15] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] it's about who is there [22:15] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] if people are parked there for hostility's sake [22:15] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] then that has nothing to do with us but against us [22:15] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] I used a different word [22:15] baronhk1[m] The only point of Liberal Chat was to give nasty trolls like Garrett free reign over the network. [22:15] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] in misleading clothing [22:15] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] like the new 'gnu' [22:17] psydroid the main effect of creating Liberal Chat may have been that they've signed their own death sentence [22:17] MinceR who [22:18] psydroid because people who care about free software may want to stay clear of all of those projects that have moved there [22:18] techrights-bot Test 15 different #PinePhone operating systems with Megis latest multi-distro demo image http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152002 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [22:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Test 15 different PinePhone operating systems with Megis latest multi-distro demo image | Tux Machines [22:18] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] this behaviour is driving people to the right [22:19] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] by alienating many on the left; [22:19] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] like inciting gullible people based on falsehoods [22:19] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] social control media is ideal for that [22:19] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] no context or fact-checking needed/possible [22:19] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] press "like", pass on [22:20] techrights-bot Everything You Need to Know About Using Tor Browser on Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152001 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [22:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Everything You Need to Know About Using Tor Browser on Linux | Tux Machines [22:20] techrights-bot #AMD shouldnt rely on #Nvidia to help with #FidelityFX Super Resolution - but Linux gamers instead http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152000 #Linux #TuxMachines [22:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AMD shouldn't rely on Nvidia to help with FidelityFX Super Resolution - but Linux gamers instead | Tux Machines [22:21] baronhk1[m] No political position will solve 100% of all problems at all times, but the modern "liberals" basically want big government that takes all your money and gives it to criminals to alternate between sitting on their ass and committing crimes against generally decent citizens, while at the same time letting all the infrastructure fail so they can redirect it to no-work public employees, while at the same time dumping th [22:21] baronhk1[m] prisons out to also redirect it to no work public employees and the criminals they let out who find their way onto welfare. [22:21] baronhk1[m] In exchange for this, you get to live where the bullets fly while the folks who still have money (who work at tech companies, mostly, these days) build private fences and have their own armed security and get to pontificate over Twitter about how the real problem is that people aren't accepting enough of transgender reassignment in the military. [22:21] baronhk1[m] Those are the folks who went to camp out on Libera Chat. [22:21] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] psydroid: Yea, I'd rather use MSSQL because it's not on Libera.Chat %) [22:21] baronhk1[m] They want to make it illegal to disagree with them, aren't quite there yet, but they can get you off of "their" networks. [22:22] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] (not really, just in case someone takes out of context) [22:22] techrights-bot This is a force of occupation by #patent maximalists against the #uspto https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/06/bcp-customer-partnership-meeting.html #patent profiteers willing to kill millions of us to protect "patents" and artificially inflate pricing [22:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: BCP Customer Partnership Meeting [22:22] baronhk1[m] The only people who can pretend that SJW positions are tenable are the ones who don't have to live with the results if they get them enacted. [22:22] baronhk1[m] We used to call them Limousine Liberals. [22:23] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] psydroid: Oh hey, Firebird is on freenode it seems. [22:23] baronhk1[m] And laugh, because they wanted things like higher taxes to run public transportation that they don't use. [22:24] MinceR i think way too many projects have moved to libera for it to become a ghetto [22:24] baronhk1[m] In Waukegan, we have a bus that's too unreliable to depend on, which siphons gas tax money away from the roads that they ruin. So you have to have a car and then fix it more often because of the bad condition of the roads, because of the bus. [22:24] techrights-bot The propaganda mill #ManagingIP [sic] is referring to #patents as "IP" (which is basically a lie, a loaded and misleading #propaganda term) to lend legitimacy to "Big Pharama" #monopolies https://www.managingip.com/article/b1s39qhj1zkq37/pharma-in-house-reveal-precision-medicine-ip-challenges http://techrights.org/2021/05/27/managing-perceptions-ip/ [22:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Pharma in-house reveal precision medicine IP challenges | Managing Intellectual Property [22:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Managing Perceptions for the EPOs Regime | Techrights [22:25] baronhk1[m] More people would be better off with a government that did less, focused on what it needed to do, and taxed the public less. [22:25] baronhk1[m] What we do have are people who have figured out how to fill out government forms to participate in programs that discourage productivity and drain resources to have state employees sit around transferring tax money they took from another person. [22:26] *asusbox2 has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [22:26] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: Are ye sure? Maybe psydroid can migrate techrights from MariaDB to Firebird. [22:27] baronhk1[m] I think my contempt for Liberal Chat is that it's more about this sort of politics than it is about tech and they've started luring open source projects over there by implying that there's something inherently wrong about not having their own opinions, and freenode not sanctioning you for disagreeing with them. [22:27] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] XRevan86: lol [22:27] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [22:28] baronhk1[m] I think what pisses me off about the government programs more than anything is that Biden and the Democrats keep setting the income limits to like a thousand dollars a year less than we make, so they're of no benefit to us but we get to pay people who make just slightly less than we do to take free internet, free food, free rent, etc. [22:29] techrights-bot Ars Technica become so dead that it just copy-pastes Wired now https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2021/06/hacker-lexicon-what-is-a-supply-chain-attack/?comments=1 [22:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Hacker lexicon: What is a supply chain attack? | Ars Technica [22:29] baronhk1[m] I get to watch that we're just a few dollars high on getting to claim any of this and just get to pay tax. [22:29] baronhk1[m] None of the people who decided on these income limits isn't a millionaire. [22:29] baronhk1[m] They're all 3,000 miles away from me. [22:30] baronhk1[m] Why should they get to do this? [22:30] schestowitz let's get back to tech though [22:30] schestowitz about firebird, they use shithub [22:30] schestowitz but... they also have some positive angles [22:31] schestowitz tbh, we'd rather move off dbs completely, at some stage [22:31] schestowitz but a CMS without a db back end also has many limitations [22:31] schestowitz I wait until we can 'shelve' some things, made them static [22:31] *asusbox2 (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [22:31] schestowitz then start afresh in some yet-unknown form [22:31] schestowitz as happens a lot [22:31] baronhk1[m] SalesForce is apparently never going to reopen their Chicago office. We're getting more and more news like this. [22:31] schestowitz we still use the same base wordpress theme as in 2006 [22:31] *rianne (~rianne@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:99f:dc46:7836:ed0a) has joined #techrights [22:32] schestowitz baronhk1[m]: that's a tech story [22:32] schestowitz yes, we're the same where I work [22:32] schestowitz you no longer need to show off "properties" to sign deals [22:32] baronhk1[m] "Jabba" Pritzker showed up to announce jobs in Joliet that the state paid big bucks for with some company that makes battery car parts. [22:32] schestowitz to project financial stability [22:33] baronhk1[m] Yes, I was at their Chicago office and they had all sorts of outrageous looking things there. [22:33] baronhk1[m] Including the coffee machine that ate the Sears Tower. [22:33] baronhk1[m] I had to walk through there to speak to an attorney who was in the same building. [22:33] baronhk1[m] He had a similar machine. [22:34] schestowitz very expensive [22:34] schestowitz the machines and their proprietary-ish capsules [22:34] schestowitz just to show off [22:34] schestowitz all about image and status [22:34] schestowitz I'm so rich I pay $4 for a latte [22:34] schestowitz instead of 20 cents at home [22:35] baronhk1[m] It looks more like a potemkin village than an office where they were getting things done. Obviously no server farms or anything there. [22:35] baronhk1[m] Just executives, managers, secretaries. Don't need that anymore. [22:35] schestowitz For the 'ambiance' of sitting on a sofa 100+ people sat on earlier in the same day [22:35] baronhk1[m] 25% of the company laid off in 4 months. [22:36] schestowitz maybe they can plant trees [22:36] schestowitz productive job [22:36] schestowitz and beneficial to society [22:36] schestowitz unlike micro-management [22:36] baronhk1[m] Those big Chicago law firms charge so much because it's about branding. [22:36] baronhk1[m] They have high rents. Big offices right on "prime real estate". [22:36] techrights-bot #Security : #CFAA and Supply Chains http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152003 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [22:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: CFAA and Supply Chains | Tux Machines [22:36] baronhk1[m] Lots of expensive furniture. [22:36] schestowitz "Designer" things [22:37] schestowitz because cheaper things are never "designed" by anybody [22:38] baronhk1[m] I had Joy call me after I filed bankruptcy and tell me she was going to sue me anyway because her husband was a lawyer. I said, "Yes, he's a patent lawyer. I can serve him another copy of the court order and inform him on what your business will end up paying in contempt of court if you ever call here again.". [22:39] baronhk1[m] She pulled my phone number off the bankruptcy filing to violate the bankruptcy. [22:39] baronhk1[m] Lawyers obviously don't know everything. [22:39] techrights-bot These inventors had agreed in their employment contracts with #QuantaLife to promptly assign to the company their rights [sic] to the provisional applications that matured into the three #patents -in-suit, which they assigned to #BioRad after the acquisition." https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/06/bio-rad-laboratories-inc-v-international-trade-comm-fed-cir-2021.html [22:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: Bio-Rad Laboratories, Inc. v. International Trade Comm. (Fed. Cir. 2021) [22:39] baronhk1[m] He probably has a big coffee machine too. His office is in the loop. [22:40] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@76-234-138-224.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) has left #techrights [22:40] techrights-bot "In the context of prescription drugs intended to treat COVID-19, the EUAs granted by the #FDA typically did not require the completion of robust, well-controlled clinical trials [!!!!!!!!!!!]. Further, several of these EUAs have been revised or revoked subsequently" https://writtendescription.blogspot.com/2021/06/whats-difference-between-vaccine.html [22:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-writtendescription.blogspot.com | Written Description: Whats the difference between vaccine approval (BLA) and authorization (EUA)? [22:41] schestowitz baronhk1[m]: they know how to pretend [22:41] schestowitz and to tie a knot [22:41] schestowitz sometimes [22:41] schestowitz posh accent helps [22:41] schestowitz and fancy office in an expensive rent building [22:41] baronhk1[m] Man, gasoline has gotten outragous. [22:41] schestowitz stacks of books [22:41] baronhk1[m] I checked my activity. I spent $100 on gas this month just getting around town. [22:41] schestowitz and branded everything [22:41] schestowitz skills required: [22:42] schestowitz operate a copying machine [22:42] schestowitz speak a language [22:42] schestowitz have a phone hooked up to a socker [22:42] schestowitz socket [22:42] schestowitz (IME) [22:42] schestowitz you pay $200 or more an hour for someone to photocopy the papers you yourself assemble for them [22:42] schestowitz and they they work with some prepared templates of things [22:43] baronhk1[m] It just feels wrong, you know. [22:43] baronhk1[m] Thank god I only have to go through that one more time. [22:43] baronhk1[m] I should be able to handle Mandy's 10 year green card renewals myself. [22:44] baronhk1[m] There's really nothing they can deny. You just have to make sure to send a form in on time once every decade at that point. [22:44] techrights-bot How about, do not grant or assign any #trademarks if in doubt? https://www.managingip.com/article/b1s40n23wz7nn2/brands-question-merits-of-early-stage-trademark-validity-rulings see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EUIPO [22:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Brands question merits of early-stage trademark validity rulings | Managing Intellectual Property [22:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EUIPO - Techrights [22:44] baronhk1[m] The hard part (for us) is over. We got through that whole awful process where they could try to claim he'd be a burden on the United States, knowing damned well he wouldn't be, but with a "boss" leaning on them to keep immigrants out. [22:45] baronhk1[m] "Prove you aren't a shithole country person here to get on welfare!" [22:45] baronhk1[m] Oh good. Prove a negative. Well, this should be as enjoyable as a religion argument. [22:46] techrights-bot FOSS Patents: Monitoring patent injunction case law in Munich and Mannheim post- #patent DEform http://www.fosspatents.com/2021/06/monitoring-patent-injunction-case-law.html by @fosspatents | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/06/#latest [22:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: Monitoring patent injunction case law in Munich and Mannheim post-patentDEform: FOSS Patents premium service starting September 2021 [22:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [22:47] techrights-bot Meanwhile in #trumpland they're still discussing whether it's OK to grant #patents on life and nature ... as if that should even be a question at all!! https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/06/broad-files-reply-to-cvcs-opposition-to-broads-contingent-motion-to-correct-inventorship.html [22:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: Broad Files Reply to CVC's Opposition to Broad's Contingent Motion to Correct Inventorship [22:50] techrights-bot 38 mins ago about #ibm morale collapsing: "We do not see pay raises, bonuses, awards and most are not even considered for promotions when they should be." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bcg7eF3#replies [22:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | IBM is a joke - post regarding IBM layoffs [22:51] baronhk1[m] schestowitz: Business Insider still doing their thing. [22:51] baronhk1[m] Wondering why a Dollar General employee who was only earning $72.50 a week would "rage quit" her job. [22:52] baronhk1[m] Saying workers "rage quitting" is the sign of a healthy jobs market. [22:52] baronhk1[m] No, quitting a $7.25 an hour 10 hour job means that literally anything else has become available. [22:52] *phobos_anomaly (~phobos@unaffiliated/phobos-anomaly/x-6744724) has joined #techrights [22:52] schestowitz BI is rich people-run [22:52] baronhk1[m] $290 a MONTH = Living high on the hog, apparently. [22:52] baronhk1[m] My rent is $850 and that's not including the electric. [22:53] *phobos_anomaly thinks he picked a bad moment to come in when he sees BI is rich people [22:53] schestowitz that's very high [22:53] baronhk1[m] That's actually not as bad as a lot of places here in Waukegan. [22:53] baronhk1[m] Many one bedrooms are at least $1,000 a month even in areas that aren't great. [22:54] baronhk1[m] $850 a month in Chicago gets you a studio where you have to pay electric and if you go outside for anything you're likely to get mugged or shot. [22:54] baronhk1[m] It's what happens when there's a Democrat infestation. [22:55] techrights-bot Today in Planet Debian: proudly dumping #freesw to move to #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware #monopoly https://k1024.org/posts/2021/2021-06-06-moving-to-github-actions/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github "look ma!! I found 'free stuff' in prison!" [22:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-k1024.org | iustin - Goodbye Travis, hello GitHub Actions [22:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Delete Github - Techrights [22:55] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: It wasn't a serious remark about Firebird, it was sarcasm to point out that psydroid is making little sense there. [22:55] baronhk1[m] All the taxes go up so high that your landlord is going to make the same profit margin as one would in Indiana, so instead of your rent being $500 it's $850-1,000. [22:55] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [22:55] psydroid I paid 950 a month in Dublin and 50 for electricity, it's probably even more expensive now [22:55] baronhk1[m] If Democrat voters understood economics, they wouldn't be Democrats anymore. [22:55] *asusbox2 has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [22:56] baronhk1[m] Yeah, Sinead O'Connor was saying she hates living in Ireland because it's expensive and the weather's bad, but her family is there. [22:57] psydroid I think new free software can replace older free software. Will it be easy? No. Will it take a lot of time? Very likely. But everything should be replaceable. [22:57] baronhk1[m] The Democrats finally overplayed their hand here in Waukegan. [22:57] baronhk1[m] The Republicans flipped the mayor's office this year, and my vote was for that. [22:58] baronhk1[m] Endless million dollar studies that go nowhere about lakefront renovations", mayor hiring his extended family to make work jobs, tax increases..... [22:58] techrights-bot " #Internet #privacy is incredibly important don't get me wrong, however, that doesn't mean that you should beat people over the head about the issue. If they're willing to work within the system that exists, that's ok, that's something that they chose to do." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB4KX-CpGm4 [22:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Privacy Isn't A Binary And That's OK - YouTube [22:59] techrights-bot "A boomer rants from his couch about life without being connected to the Internet. I'm currently without a computer at home and this has me thinking. Is being connected by default a good thing or a bad thing? Is your life better or worse because of this constant Internet connection?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWlMQaC7b-8 [22:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Life Without The Internet? It's Actually BETTER! (Boomer Rant) - YouTube ● Jun 06 [23:00] baronhk1[m] Pollution is great. They'd have to do topsoil removal and environmental studies on miles and miles of land and shut down Stericycle and Medline to flip Waukegan, and figure out how to disperse the minorities that white liberals say they like but would never live near, and improve the roads to make it too expensive to live here. [23:01] baronhk1[m] And that's just going to be too much to do overnight. Probably not for years. [23:02] baronhk1[m] If we have to, at that point, we'll just transfer Mandy to a Walmart over in Wisconsin and enjoy citizenship in a new state that has lower taxes anyway. [23:02] baronhk1[m] It's not like Illinois is doing a hell of a lot for us anyway. It's just kind of the rut we're in and it's not so horrible that we absolutely must leave at this very minute, yet. [23:03] techrights-bot A new future for #icanhazip https://major.io/2021/06/06/a-new-future-for-icanhazip/ [23:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-major.io | A new future for icanhazip | Major Hayden's Blog [23:03] techrights-bot #Dancer2 0.301004 Released http://blogs.perl.org/users/jason_a_crome/2021/06/dancer2-0301003-released-1.html #perl #programming [23:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dancer2 0.301004 Released | Jason A. Crome [blogs.perl.org] [23:03] baronhk1[m] The further away from Chicago you get, the less awful it is to try to go about your daily life. For some reason, Richard Stallman thinks people should cram into big cities. [23:04] baronhk1[m] It takes a special kind of person to want to live there now. [23:05] baronhk1[m] I think that one reason why rural people are more likely to be pro-life is because they know their neighbors and they're not used to flipping on the news and hearing all about people setting babies on fire in the dumpster and carjackings and drive-bys every day. [23:05] baronhk1[m] You devalue life when you get packed in with millions of people and don't know any of them and are surrounded by death and crime. [23:06] baronhk1[m] Garrett would probably leave except I'm getting a John-type vibe from him. [23:06] techrights-bot #Q4OS 4.5-testing-r2 is out https://q4os.org/ #gnu #linux [23:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-q4os.org | Q4OS - desktop operating system [23:06] baronhk1[m] He probably likes being in a big city where you can flip on Grindr any moment of any day and never run into the same person twice. [23:07] baronhk1[m] If you live long enough you start seeing personality types repeating themselves, and Garrett is just John as a computer programmer. [23:07] techrights-bot Getting ready for GSoC 2021 https://blogs.gnome.org/manugen/2021/06/06/getting-ready-for-gsoc-2021/ #gnome [23:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.gnome.org | Getting ready for GSoC 2021 Manuel Genovs [23:09] techrights-bot #youtube keeps bombarding me with so many ads in recent months... to the point where I dread clicking on YouTube URLs and usually just ignore these URLs altogether. #google will squeeze this goose to death, but it already secured a near #monopoly [23:09] techrights-bot #digiKam : #GSoC 2021 Community Bonding https://anjani.live/posts/gsoc-community-bonding/ #jde [23:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-anjani.live | digiKam: GSoC 2021 Community Bonding | Anjani's blog [23:10] techrights-bot #GSoC with #Krita https://jindalsachin.github.io/GSoC-with-Krita/ #kde #freese #deletegithub http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github [23:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jindalsachin.github.io | GSoC with Krita Sachin Jindal Software Developer [23:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Delete Github - Techrights [23:10] psydroid I have adblock plugins in the browser and local clients such as QMplay2 [23:11] psydroid so I rarely see YouTube ads [23:11] baronhk1[m] They demonetize the channels and then they do "sponsored segments" in the videos on top of the ads, so you need an ad blocker and "sponsorblock". [23:11] schestowitz yeah, I can imagine [23:11] schestowitz nowadays I just try to avoid those awful sites [23:11] schestowitz or to keep away from those that I know and trust [23:13] techrights-bot #LiveRaizo v12.21.06.06i released! https://sourceforge.net/p/live-raizo/blog/2021/06/liveraizo-v12210606i-released/ #gnu #linux [23:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sourceforge.net | Live Raizo - Linux for Virtual SysAdmin / Blog: LiveRaizo v12.21.06.06i released! [23:14] techrights-bot Steam Play's Proton Working To Further Lower Input Latency - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Proton-Lower-Input-Latency #deletegithub http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github [23:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Steam Play's Proton Working To Further Lower Input Latency - Phoronix [23:14] schestowitz youtube is almost dead to me now [23:14] schestowitz it's waste of time [23:15] schestowitz smaller audiences over time and more spammy ads [23:15] schestowitz with money not going to those who do all the word [23:15] schestowitz work [23:16] schestowitz I always get a kick seeing the channel of SPAMnil [23:16] schestowitz where most videos never reach even 100 views after a month [23:16] schestowitz and he spends many hours editing each [23:16] *asusbox2 (~rianne@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:99f:dc46:7836:ed0a) has joined #techrights [23:16] *rianne (~rianne@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:99f:dc46:7836:ed0a) has joined #techrights [23:16] schestowitz and many hours just preparing for them [23:16] schestowitz https://www.youtube.com/c/TFiRio/videos [23:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-TFiR - YouTube [23:16] schestowitz waste of his time [23:17] schestowitz if he thinks he can take things around by outsourcing to Google [23:17] psydroid video is a bit harder to do than something like Gemini due to bandwidth constraints, but it's just a matter of time until YouTube will meet the same fate as the www itself [23:18] psydroid he looks so professional, though [23:18] schestowitz ha [23:19] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.18 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 30.00 swarm size (avg): 239.14 [23:20] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2020/08/09/silencing-founders/ [23:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | If We Werent Silencing Founders, Critics and People We Just Dont Like | Techrights [23:23] *asusbox2 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [23:23] *asusbox (~rianne@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:99f:dc46:7836:ed0a) has joined #techrights [23:24] baronhk1[m] The development pace of Firefox is now reminiscent of the end of Presto. [23:27] phobos_anomaly Whats the ETA for its death? [23:27] baronhk1[m] Probably a year or two before they announce that they'll just make the best of Chromium. [23:28] baronhk1[m] It'll enable more layoffs and another raise for Mitchell Baker. [23:28] phobos_anomaly What a waste of skin that one is [23:30] schestowitz Firefox is not attractive anymore [23:30] schestowitz and it lacks the addons that made it great more than a decade back [23:31] baronhk1[m] Very powerful extensions because they could do anything the browser could. [23:31] techrights-bot #GSoC in #KDE and #GNOME http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152004 #Google #TuxMachines [23:31] baronhk1[m] Now they've formed a WebExtensions group with Microsoft. [23:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GSoC in KDE and GNOME | Tux Machines [23:33] phobos_anomaly That explains the data breeches they had... the incidents where, after claiming they did not collect user data, would suddenly be caught with user data ;) [23:34] *guysoft42 has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [23:34] phobos_anomaly https://www.ghacks.net/2017/02/12/firefox-focus-privacy-scandal/ [23:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ghacks.net | Firefox Focus privacy scandal - gHacks Tech News [23:39] techrights-bot Hope lost for European Patent Office (EPO) President :-) https://www.medpagetoday.com/hematologyoncology/prostatecancer/92910 [23:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.medpagetoday.com | EPO No Help for Erectile Dysfunction After Radical Prostatectomy | MedPage Today [23:41] techrights-bot #football has long been popular among racists (sadly) https://www.saratogian.com/sports/national/england-players-to-take-a-knee-at-euros-despite-fans-booing/article_36c71d70-8adf-5ea2-817c-600a2ea58430.html [23:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-England players to take a knee at Euros despite fans' booing | National | saratogian.com [23:44] schestowitz I nearly forgot about that "Focus" debacle [23:44] schestowitz I can no longer enumerate such scandalsw [23:44] schestowitz which is a bad sign [23:44] schestowitz because there are so many breaches of trust [23:46] techrights-bot "I'll take "Things That Never Happened" for $200, Alex." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bdNS6cB#replies #ibm #layoffs #jokes #exodus [23:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Getting rejected by my dates coz i work at ibm - post regarding IBM layoffs [23:46] baronhk1[m] Adjust libraries are in Firefox for Android too. [23:46] baronhk1[m] They're replaced by a non functioning stub in Fennec F-Droid. [23:46] techrights-bot "I was only there 5 years but I should have left after 3. Being honest #IBM is one of the low points of my 20 year CV. It is now seen in the IT industry as an old fashioned bureaucratic company in steep decline." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bcHegfR#replies [23:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | If you can go back in time - post regarding IBM layoffs [23:47] baronhk1[m] schestowitz I mentioned this in a post. That non functioning stubs to deal with adware was one of the first things we did in response to it in the 90s. [23:48] baronhk1[m] Firefox won't even load now if it doesn't detect three tracking libraries on Android that are proprietary software. [23:48] baronhk1[m] So to make Fennec work, they had to make three fake libraries that say they loaded and then exit without doing anything. [23:49] techrights-bot New promotion of tax evasion using #patents . Such ludicrous stuff ( #Patent Boxes) should be altogether abolished. It's like a legalised scam https://www.bytestart.co.uk/business-tax-reliefs-and-allowances @zoobab [23:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://www.bytestart.co.uk/business-tax-reliefs-and-allowances ) [23:50] baronhk1[m] I use an app that sits on top of tracking and ad libraries and tells them there's no network connection when they try to phone home. [23:50] techrights-bot #Bitcoin2021 Announcement: #OpenCryptoAlliance https://www.stephankinsella.com/paf-podcast/kol342-bitcoin2021-announcement-open-crypto-alliance/ [23:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.stephankinsella.com | KOL342 | Bitcoin2021 Announcement: Open Crypto Alliance [23:50] baronhk1[m] But I try to avoid those libraries when possible. [23:52] techrights-bot Kate Gaudry of #watchtroll is now propping up #GilbertHyatt as many #patent extremists like to... http://techrights.org/2018/10/06/tax-evasion-and-patents/ [23:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Is Hyatt an Inventor or a Tax Evader? | Techrights [23:53] schestowitz the baker overcooked the fox [23:53] *asusbox has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [23:53] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [23:55] phobos_anomaly schestowitz: My .02 is that it wasn't that they over cooked it, its that they corrupted the ingredients. It also didn't help that the head chef hates the main course [23:55] techrights-bot "I noticed that YouTubers were mentioned as part of gemini outreach and wanted to let you all know that I, for one, am incredibly excited to be part of this growing community of talented individuals." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/005089.html [23:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Re outreach and YouTubers [23:57] baronhk1[m] Mozilla has always had churn. Early on they lost the two people who created Firefox. Most people have used it to get somewhere else and then leave. [23:58] baronhk1[m] Many end up at Apple. [23:58] baronhk1[m] Rust was a way to create a resume and then leave the company.