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● Oct 06
[00:00]	highest_cubist_thrills	the fallacy is "if x is free, user is free, and y and z dont matter"
[00:00]	highest_cubist_thrills	y and z are just other ways to potentially control the user
[00:00]	highest_cubist_thrills	the fallacy is to see x as a lens or gate through which only freedom can get through
[00:00]	highest_cubist_thrills	control x and you control your computing
[00:00]	highest_cubist_thrills	but computing isnt x
[00:00]	highest_cubist_thrills	move part of x to another venue and you can get controlled via that venue instead
[00:01]	highest_cubist_thrills	where "venue" is a sort of technology or platform for some aspect of computing
[00:01]	highest_cubist_thrills	(like js or saas or plugins or whatever)
[00:01]	highest_cubist_thrills	these days x is the license :)
[00:02]	highest_cubist_thrills	the license is vital, but if it were enough tivoisation would have never existed
[00:03]	highest_cubist_thrills	tivoisation showed gpl2 wasnt enough-- lobbying showed gpl3 wasnt enough
[00:03]	highest_cubist_thrills	the fsf completely fails in its mission against the vector of lobbyists.
[00:03]	highest_cubist_thrills	pretending the license is sufficient
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[00:04]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's leftovers
[00:04]		*psydruid always looks at the entire system, which means the combination of hardwarre and software
[00:04]	highest_cubist_thrills	<psydruid> ACTION always looks at the entire system <- its impossible to avoid if you want freedom
[00:05]	highest_cubist_thrills	which means the combination of hardwarre and software <- and more
[00:05]	highest_cubist_thrills	as the scope of the fsfs concerns NARROWED the exploitation of their mission increased
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[00:06]	psydruid	the more being a now moribund free software community?
[00:06]	TR Bot	 Links 06/10/2022: GStreamer 1.21.1, G4S Cracked | Techrights
[00:06]	highest_cubist_thrills	"    I've chosen not to have any preferences among those ethical distros. But I am not in a position to judge them on other criteria: even to try them all would be a lot work that I have no need to do." https://web.archive.org/web/20111104041105/http://stallman.org/stallman-computing.html
[00:06]	TR Bot	 How I do my Computing
[00:06]	highest_cubist_thrills	the more being a now moribund free software community? <- the cost of freedom is eternal vigilance, not eternal license.
[00:07]	highest_cubist_thrills	"I am not in a position to judge them on other criteria" <- stupid, stupid, stupid
[00:07]	highest_cubist_thrills	and while its possible he came to this conclusion on his own, tbh it reeks of someone poking his registers.
[00:07]	psydruid	I think centralization of code repositories hurt the resilience of the movement
[00:08]	highest_cubist_thrills	there was some internal campaign to convince him that was a good position, even though it was a partial resignation from chief gnuisance
[00:08]	highest_cubist_thrills	but yes its possible he made a decision that foolish on his own. heres an article where he warns against precisely this sort of thing:
[00:09]	psydruid	IBM could have tried to dominate all decentralised forks, but it would have been like a game of whack-a-mole
[00:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean posted it the other day
[00:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	IBM could have tried to dominate all decentralised forks <- instead htey created a new de-facto standard
[00:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	or rather red hat did it for them
[00:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	the person who engineered it came from novell.
[00:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	just because ibm didnt own red hat yet doesnt mean they had no hand in this
[00:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	but someone who knew how to take shit over did
[00:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	was systemd engineered this way from day 1? i dunno.
[00:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	did it at least get turned into that? of course
[00:10]	TR News	SUSE pays Microsoft! "SUSE is an exhibitor sponsor at this years event." https://www.suse.com/c/join-suse-at-microsoft-ignite/
[00:10]	TR Bot	SUSE at Microsoft Ignite | SUSE Communities
[00:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	but the idea is in the halloween documents
[00:11]	psydruid	all the while red hat pretended to be a good steward of free software
[00:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	you create new standards, you force others to follow them
[00:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	systemd is openly and blatantly anti-posix
[00:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	it mocks everything gnu is built on
[00:11]	schestowitz[TR]	red hat even told me its swpats were harmless
[00:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	granted gnu extends, quite shamelessly. so does everyone else.
[00:11]	schestowitz[TR]	than a LOBBYING FOR swpats took over
[00:12]	schestowitz[TR]	*LOBBYING GIANT
[00:12]	highest_cubist_thrills	 red hat even told me its swpats were harmles <- from the standpoint of a major corporation they arguably are
[00:12]	highest_cubist_thrills	harmless to anyone that matters
[00:12]	highest_cubist_thrills	poverty is also harmless, to the rich.
[00:12]	psydruid	which makes you wonder if ibm already planted some people at red hat in the late 90s and early 2000s to pave the way for a later acquisition
[00:13]	highest_cubist_thrills	 which makes you wonder if ibm already planted some people at red hat in the late 90s and early 2000s <- it isnt necessary to the point, but its not impossible either
[00:13]	schestowitz[TR]	to be clear, it's not going WELL for ICBM
[00:13]	schestowitz[TR]	for Pentagon? Maybe.
[00:13]	schestowitz[TR]	Probably.
[00:13]	highest_cubist_thrills	x is dying, yada yada yada
[00:13]	schestowitz[TR]	but ICBM is mishandling Red Hat very badly
[00:13]	schestowitz[TR]	lots of staff leaving
[00:13]	highest_cubist_thrills	anytime theres a serious concern roy says "dont worry folks! theyll be dead real soon now"
[00:13]	schestowitz[TR]	and they cannot quite 'monetise' it
[00:13]	highest_cubist_thrills	its such a cute refrain.
[00:13]	highest_cubist_thrills	delusional, but cute.
[00:13]	schestowitz[TR]	so how did novell work out?
[00:13]	highest_cubist_thrills	dont worry about anything! x is dying.
[00:13]	schestowitz[TR]	they were certain they'd get ahead
[00:14]	schestowitz[TR]	instead they died
[00:14]	schestowitz[TR]	and Microsoft had no Novell to hide behind anymore
[00:14]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me thinks of the guy on freaks and geeks
[00:14]	schestowitz[TR]	so they attacked Nokia
[00:14]	schestowitz[TR]	anyway, I'll leave
[00:14]	highest_cubist_thrills	"yeah, i knew a company that tried to take over free software once. you know what happened? IT DIED!"
[00:14]	schestowitz[TR]	since you'r so hositle to anythign I say
[00:14]	schestowitz[TR]	biab
[00:14]	psydruid	can we make red hat, ibm and microsoft die too?
[00:14]	highest_cubist_thrills	i hostile to your silly mantras that universally negate real concerns. yes.
[00:14]	highest_cubist_thrills	you downplay everything.
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[00:15]	highest_cubist_thrills	ive been bitching about it for two years now.
[00:15]	highest_cubist_thrills	you havent stopped, i dont know why i would.
[00:15]	highest_cubist_thrills	but i like your wording that implies my response to it is somehow my fault:
[00:15]	highest_cubist_thrills	"since you'r so hositle to anythign I say" get on a fucking cross why dont you
[00:16]	TR News	Do You Want to Tether Your Life to Gulag? How to Resist https://yewtu.be/watch?v=W5USiHT7mzM
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[00:16]	highest_cubist_thrills	<psydruid> can we make red hat, ibm and microsoft die too? <- theyre also dying! life is beautiful!
[00:17]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me hates this stupid pointless catchall mantra, is going to nuke it from orbit
[00:17]	psydruid	we're all dying
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[00:17]	highest_cubist_thrills	the sun causes cancer-- but dont worry, its dying!
[00:17]	psydruid	every day offers a new opportunity to die a little more
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[00:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	 ICBM is mishandling Red Hat very badly <- this was predicteed before the sale was final
[00:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	companies like to purchase competition.
[00:22]	highest_cubist_thrills	the competition costs them money if it exists in other (competitors) hands
[00:22]	highest_cubist_thrills	if they own it, then milk it, and run it into the ground then:
[00:22]	highest_cubist_thrills	1. it pays for itself if it no longer costs them (and saves what they spent)
[00:22]	highest_cubist_thrills	2. if they milk it first, it helps contribute to #1 while as an added bonus makes it look like "well, we tried!"
[00:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	so they can deny running it into the ground
[00:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	but weve seen the industry do this enough times in 30 years to not be so naive
[00:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	especially ibm and microsoft
[00:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	google has also done it, but mostly with shit normies dont care about
[00:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean, who the fuck used google wave?
[00:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	keyword: mostly
[00:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	besides:
[00:25]	highest_cubist_thrills	 ICBM is mishandling Red Hat very badly <- its a given-as-a-work-in-progress that this will happen
[00:25]	highest_cubist_thrills	since every time the industry buys something they fuck it up and it "dies" 
[00:25]	highest_cubist_thrills	just not in a timeframe that makes this mantra very useful
[00:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	sure it dies. github will die someday
[00:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	its going to take half of free software with it. thats worth SO MUCH more than microsoft paid for it
[00:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	or probably could have paid for it.
[00:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	they got what they wanted.
[00:27]	highest_cubist_thrills	thats what "x is dying" glosses over and practically ends up denying
[00:27]	highest_cubist_thrills	this. was. the. plan.
[00:27]	highest_cubist_thrills	see the plan, they wrote it 20 years ago.
[00:27]	highest_cubist_thrills	ffs
[00:28]	highest_cubist_thrills	x is being slaughtered is more to the point
[00:29]	highest_cubist_thrills	part of the reasons that companies have departments and projects is so they can axe them and move on
[00:29]	highest_cubist_thrills	its a regular part of the business cycle
[00:30]	highest_cubist_thrills	sometimes its not what they wanted, but that hardly changes the fact that it so often is part of their plan.
[00:31]	highest_cubist_thrills	no tragedy for the company at all. literally what they intended from the start.
[00:37]	schestowitz[TR]	back
[00:37]	schestowitz[TR]	did some tuxmachines backups
[00:37]	schestowitz[TR]	<highest_cubist_thrills> since every time the industry buys something they fuck it up and it "dies" 
[00:37]	schestowitz[TR]	the communities stand to benefoit
[00:37]	schestowitz[TR]	but short term many dependencies might not be maintained
[00:38]	schestowitz[TR]	and there is risk that GAFAM+LF will fill the gap
[00:38]	schestowitz[TR]	so in effect military contractors
[00:38]	schestowitz[TR]	"critical infra"
[00:38]	schestowitz[TR]	theys wallow that as they became so deeply vested
[00:39]	TR News	RVowpalWabbit 0.0.17: Maintenance http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/blog/2022/10/05/
[00:39]	TR Bot	 Thinking inside the box
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[00:44]	MinceR	06 011734 < highest_cubist_thrills> the sun causes cancer-- but dont worry, its dying!
[00:44]	MinceR	and as it proceeds through its stages of existence, it's going to do far worse things than a little cancer
[00:45]	schestowitz[TR]	you cannot kill the sun
[00:45]	schestowitz[TR]	it burns itself out
[00:45]	schestowitz[TR]	also, my argument was not that
[00:45]	schestowitz[TR]	don't worry about x, it is dying
[00:45]	schestowitz[TR]	that's a slant on what I said
[00:45]	schestowitz[TR]	I said, we need to fight back and there is progress
[00:46]	schestowitz[TR]	because it loses market share etc.
[00:46]	schestowitz[TR]	it worked against novel
[00:47]	starstreak	<schestowitz[TR]> you cannot kill the sun <- just wait for it to fly near the ground and hit it with a turtle shell
[00:47]	starstreak	worked for mario
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[00:47]	TR Bot	documentation surveyshare YOUR feedback! | SUSE Communities
[00:47]	schestowitz[TR]	martio is as real as santa
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[00:48]	schestowitz[TR]	another key thing is
[00:48]	schestowitz[TR]	just because someone is more pessimistic if not alarmist doiesn't make her/him right
[00:48]	schestowitz[TR]	in fact, there's an argument that being too pessimistic causes defeatism
[00:48]	schestowitz[TR]	and defeatism leads to defeat
[00:48]	schestowitz[TR]	so need to take stock of progres and fight on
[00:48]	schestowitz[TR]	it took 4 years with novell
[00:49]	schestowitz[TR]	ubuntu ia slso losing a lot of market share
[00:49]	schestowitz[TR]	its brand is tarnished
[00:49]	schestowitz[TR]	firefox the same
[00:49]	starstreak	mozilla and its bloated mail client
[00:49]	schestowitz[TR]	a lot of the orgs have 'image' issue
[00:49]	schestowitz[TR]	sort of happens when you suck up to our enemies
[00:49]	schestowitz[TR]	SFC, OSI, LF..
[00:50]	schestowitz[TR]	starstreak: at least it is still maintained
[00:50]	schestowitz[TR]	maybe not very well, but it keeps on going
[00:50]	starstreak	schestowitz[TR], same with other clients
[00:50]	starstreak	evolution is getting a UI upgrade
[00:50]	schestowitz[TR]	it'll soon turn 20
[00:51]	schestowitz[TR]	btw, mogz agreed with me on defeatism
[00:51]	schestowitz[TR]	negativism to the extreme means paralysis
[00:51]	starstreak	just use a paralyze heal
[00:52]	frog	awareness of hard technicals facts, isn't neither pessimistic nor optimistic
[00:52]	frog	at least, i can stomach alot of vodka, over this
[00:53]	TR News	Microsoft propagandists like Kurt Mackie keep pushing this narrative about Linux while Microsoft is working to prevent Linux from even booting and it works with the NSA towards universal back doors https://redmondmag.com/articles/2022/10/05/linux-client-device-management-coming-to-microsoft-intune.aspx
[00:53]	TR Bot	Client Device Management Coming to Microsoft Intune -- Redmondmag.com
[00:54]	TR News	Proprietary junk, no business model https://itwire.com/strategy/at-google,-product-launches-the-only-way-to-get-promoted-claim.html
[00:54]	TR Bot	- At Google, product launches the only way to get promoted: claim
[00:55]	frog	i think, i'll move to Oasis Linux; with a roll-back to linux-2.4 and full tcc-toolchain integration there
[00:56]	frog	and even this, won't solve many critical problems
[00:56]	starstreak	i use evolution btw
[00:56]	frog	nonetheless, their approach, to fully replace GNU-buildsystem with their declarative lua-based package managent, that's too appealing
[00:58]	schestowitz[TR]	<frog> awareness of hard technicals facts, isn't neither pessimistic nor optimistic
[00:58]	schestowitz[TR]	a lot of this is not technical
[00:58]	schestowitz[TR]	entryism is an HR issue
[00:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.10 k/sec., IPFS upstream 76.06 average k/sec., average swarm size 137.93
[00:59]	frog	Oasis linux is _fundamentally_ different to all *BSD and Linux systems, with their system integration approach
[00:59]	frog	and it's exactly, what i had been looking for
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[01:00]	frog	sadly, many important goodies are missing over there, inside their package tree (lynx,w3m or any other similar web browser for example)
[01:00]	starstreak	the water makes frog gay
[01:01]	frog	and i got 300 ebuilds in my overlay, which i needed to track and patch with gentoo; i can't move all this to Oasis of cause, and i don't want to
[01:02]	highest_cubist_thrills	and defeatism leads to defeat <- truth isnt defeatism though
[01:02]	highest_cubist_thrills	as youre well aware
[01:02]	starstreak	never fear, I is here
[01:02]	highest_cubist_thrills	and defeatism leads to defeat <- i have experience with this
[01:03]	highest_cubist_thrills	i spent 10 years arguing that x was abandoning its own goals while the entire community threw rocks and said i was killing the project
[01:03]	highest_cubist_thrills	they did it to themselves
[01:04]	highest_cubist_thrills	i left and came back years later and they were saying x isnt [what they set out to do] its an "art project" and if you want [what they set out to do] just use python
[01:04]	schestowitz[TR]	that's not the same as what I meant
[01:04]	highest_cubist_thrills	you can nitpick all day if you want, defeatism isnt the main problem and isnt where the defeat comes from
[01:04]	highest_cubist_thrills	the main problem is delusional people doing nothing
[01:04]	highest_cubist_thrills	you give them constructive ideas they ignore them
[01:04]	schestowitz[TR]	brb, work related event
[01:05]	highest_cubist_thrills	you give them critique the circle the wagons then still do nothing
[01:05]	highest_cubist_thrills	they blame everyone but the people actually destroying the project
[01:05]	starstreak	roy has to go crack some heads with his huge muscles
[01:05]	highest_cubist_thrills	its like every episode of ramsays kitchen nightmares
[01:05]	highest_cubist_thrills	<starstreak> roy has to go crack some heads with his huge muscles <- luckily muscles are still legal in the uk
[01:05]	highest_cubist_thrills	theyve already outlawed knives and pointed sticks
[01:06]	starstreak	i bet you that roy could probably strangle two people at once
[01:06]	starstreak	one with each hand
[01:06]	highest_cubist_thrills	roy is the actual reason you dont hear much out of chuck norris anymore
[01:06]	starstreak	chuck norris has some competition
[01:07]	starstreak	Roy doesn't read books. He stares them down until he gets the information he wants.
[01:07]	highest_cubist_thrills	that explains a couple things at least
[01:08]	starstreak	Roy has a mug of nails instead of coffee in the morning.
[01:08]	highest_cubist_thrills	finger or toe?
[01:09]	starstreak	Roy once roundhouse kicked someone so hard that his foot broke the speed of light
[01:09]	starstreak	i love my websites logo, someone jump kicking a pyramid
[01:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	is it mario?
[01:09]	starstreak	no
[01:09]	starstreak	its some karate guy
[01:10]	starstreak	https://cerberusinvestigations.neocities.org/airkickingpyramid.png
[01:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me has no idea why nintendo hasnt made a mario karate game yet
[01:10]	starstreak	they have
[01:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	ah
[01:10]	starstreak	its called Super Smash Bros
[01:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	ive heard of it
[01:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	havent played it
[01:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	we had an atari. next to the fire pit and the flint we used to get it going.
[01:11]	starstreak	ok boomer
[01:11]	starstreak	my first console was a nintendo
[01:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	and the one you use now is from gnome 43 btw
[01:12]	starstreak	oh gnome-console?
[01:12]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me thinks when gnome hits 50 they should have 50 cent promote it
[01:12]	highest_cubist_thrills	they can put him on the desktop next to the gnome logo, with his weird grin
[01:13]	highest_cubist_thrills	dont get me wrong it looks cool as hell, its still a weird grin
[01:13]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me realises 50 cent is like from 20 years ago, but so is the last good version of gnome
[01:14]	highest_cubist_thrills	linux comes from the same era as mc hammer.
[01:14]	starstreak	:P
[01:14]	starstreak	ok gramps
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[01:15]	highest_cubist_thrills	granted when bsd was being written i think cubans were aiming missiles at the united states or something
[01:15]	MinceR	06 020635 < highest_cubist_thrills> roy is the actual reason you dont hear much out of chuck norris anymore
[01:15]	MinceR	nice
[01:15]	highest_cubist_thrills	yeah, credit where credit is due :)
[01:18]	highest_cubist_thrills	granted when bsd was being written i think cubans were aiming missiles at the united states or something <- by the time linux was written they had passed the torch to n korea
[01:18]	starstreak	Roy once shot an enemy plane down with his finger, by yelling, Bang!
[01:19]	highest_cubist_thrills	he typed every article on techrights with one finger too
[01:19]	highest_cubist_thrills	in fact hes already typed every single techrights article 
[01:19]	highest_cubist_thrills	he just releases them one at a time when the world is ready
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[01:20]	TR News	TomsHardware is running "in repeat" a bunch of Raspberry Pi "catalogues" disguised as articles or recommendation. This is webspam. It has done this for months. Is TomsHardware run on vastly lower resources/people?
[01:20]	starstreak	"Out of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most" -Ozzy Ozborn
[01:20]	highest_cubist_thrills	he got the idea from prince and tupac
[01:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	just kidding
[01:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	prince and tupac got the idea from him
[01:21]	TR News	Thanks, Intel! https://itavisen.no/2022/10/05/linux-kan-odelegge-laptop-skjermer/
[01:21]	TR Bot	 Linux kan delegge laptop-skjermer - ITavisen
[01:21]	starstreak	highest_cubist_thrills, speaking of prince: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ff8LEx9Mw54
[01:21]	TR Bot	 Chappelle's Show - Charlie Murphy's True Hollywood Stories - Prince - Uncensored - Invidious
[01:22]	highest_cubist_thrills	p**** is a hell of a drug
[01:22]	TR News	'Rising Hell' (October 6-13, 2022) on GNU/Linux https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/free-games-get-slain-back-hell-rising-hell-epic-games-store-starting-oct-6-1706981
[01:22]	TR Bot	 Free Games: Get 'Slain: Back from Hell' and 'Rising Hell' from Epic Games Store starting Oct. 6
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[01:23]	TR News	"The project started to take shape when I stumbled upon the Pimoroni RGB Keypad, a 4x4 rainbow-illuminated keypad that I could program using a Raspberry Pi Pico, for a budget of about 30." https://blog.balthazar-rouberol.com/my-diy-dungeons-and-dragons-ambiance-mixer.html
[01:23]	TR Bot	 Balthazar - Blog My DIY Dungeons and Dragons ambiance mixer
[01:24]	TR News	"And are there any signs Raspberry Pis will become available to the general public again soon?" https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2022/you-cant-buy-raspberry-pi-right-now
[01:24]	TR Bot	 You can't buy a Raspberry Pi right now | Jeff Geerling
[01:26]	starstreak	im rick james bitch
[01:26]	TR News	"Today, I'll share about a special Linux file system that I really enjoy. It's called NILFS and has been imported into Linux in 2009, so it's not really a new player, despite being stable and used in production it never got popular." gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/linux-nilfs-filesystem.gmi
[01:26]	schestowitz[TR]	frog: ^
[01:27]	TR News	"I saw a post recently that implied that the Gemini protocol was so restrictive, it would make e-commerce nonviable. I don't think this is true at all." gemini://tilde.pink/~slondr/gemini-ecommerce.gmi
[01:27]	frog	schestowitz[TR]: i first stumbled upon it on phoronix, when thinkint about filesystems
[01:27]	frog	still highly regard the design and implementation of NILFS2, and use it on my systems
[01:28]	TR News	"Many years ago, I was active on a fan site based on the MS DOS video game "Jazz Jackrabbit". The site featured user-created content packs, ranging from custom levels to tilesets to helper programs, and of course fan remixes of game music." gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2022/202210/20221005-small-music-module-files.gmi
[01:28]	frog	however, with Oasis Linux i had to fully re-integrate of the entire makefile into oasis package management, which is possible/feasible
[01:29]	frog	but, too i intend to roll-back to linux 2.4, and i neither can nor want to back-port nilfs2 there
[01:29]	frog	meaning i'll probably abandon nilfs2 too, not because of the quality benefits nilfs2 has, because of integration problems elsewhere, not caused by nilfs2 either
[01:30]	highest_cubist_thrills	technically all computers with more than one bit are non-binary
[01:32]	frog	schestowitz[TR]: since you asked a while ago, if i am programming ocassionally; well, i still got the tiny fsck utility for nilfs2 here
[01:34]	schestowitz[TR]	so you created it?
[01:34]	frog	i'll miss that feature, to verify all data and metadata segment crc32, and with 100% certainty knowing nothing bit-flipped
[01:34]	frog	only the tiny fsck utility
[01:34]	schestowitz[TR]	you can use raid
[01:34]	frog	that's something else
[01:35]	TR News	 (NEW): Gemini Articles of Interest http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/Gemini_Articles_of_Interest.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/Gemini_Articles_of_Interest.gmi 
[01:35]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Gemini Articles of Interest
[01:35]	frog	raid doesn't guarantee data-integrity at the filesystem level as nilfs2 does
[01:36]	frog	anyway, i don't care anymore, corporations and the type intellect involved there, escapes mine
[01:39]	starstreak	"you don't hack a bank across state lines, you'll get nailed by the FBI"
[01:58]	DaemonFC	All bank robberies are a federal crime.
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[02:04]	starstreak	someone hasn't seen Hackers
[02:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	 <starstreak> someone hasn't seen Hackers <- maybe they just lost the game
[02:12]	starstreak	highest_cubist_thrills, fuck you
[02:12]	highest_cubist_thrills	thats twice this week
[02:13]	AdmFubar	oh will you two get a room
[02:13]	starstreak	lol
[02:13]	highest_cubist_thrills	 :)
[02:14]	starstreak	linucks btw
[02:16]	starstreak	https://www.theregister.com/2022/10/05/icewm_version_3/
[02:16]	TR Bot	 IceWM reaches version 3 after a mere 25 years The Register
[02:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-05.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[02:23]	DaemonFC	nheko chat seems to handle Matrix more efficiently than keeping Firefox open just to deal with it.
[02:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	https://www.theregister.com/2022/10/05/icewm_version_3/ <- /me suspects the worst
[02:24]	DaemonFC	200 MB of RAM instead of over 1.5 GB
[02:25]	DaemonFC	ChatZilla doesn't really add much of anything to SeaMonkey, which is already running.
[02:25]	highest_cubist_thrills	i presume this is a gtk3 version of icewm
[02:25]	highest_cubist_thrills	thats like hummer making a unicycle.
[02:25]	MinceR	hi Rick James Bitch
[02:26]	MinceR	btw
[02:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	we still dont know what the t and w stand for
[02:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	im rick james btw
[02:27]	highest_cubist_thrills	this was before wesley snipes
[02:35]	starstreak	lol
[02:36]	MinceR	"Is it cold in here, or is it just me?"
[02:39]	TR News	Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-051022.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-051022.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-051022.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-051022.txt
[02:39]	TR Bot	 IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, October 05, 2022
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[03:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-05.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[03:26]	starstreak	rick and morty s6 :D
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[03:39]	DaemonFC	Not their best.
[03:54]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me continues looking for new (non-github) entries in the free software directory
[03:55]	highest_cubist_thrills	despite roys misplayed optimism, there is so little. its mostly stuff that was already there before this year.
[03:55]	highest_cubist_thrills	yes, there are non-github projects. the ones getting into the fsd however, are nearly all github
[03:56]	highest_cubist_thrills	imo there are two ways to interpret this
[03:56]	highest_cubist_thrills	one is that the fsf / free software directory are showing favouritism to github. thats bad.
[03:57]	highest_cubist_thrills	the other possibility is that of the projects that SHOULD matter to the fsf... theyre all github-based.
[03:57]	highest_cubist_thrills	also bad. but in a different way.
[03:58]	DaemonFC	Even SourceForge has git now so I mean, like, why would anyone use github?
[03:58]	highest_cubist_thrills	in one version its the fsfs fault, and in the other version (which i find more plausble) its the state of software itself to blame
[03:58]	highest_cubist_thrills	i dont actually blame the fsd for this. its a symptom, not a cause
[03:58]	highest_cubist_thrills	but if things arent actually bad, then the fsf is showing favoritism to github.
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[04:02]	highest_cubist_thrills	first i remove the github stuff
[04:02]	highest_cubist_thrills	then i remove the gnu trademark fraud stuff
[04:02]	highest_cubist_thrills	which isnt much at all (this year i mean)
[04:03]	highest_cubist_thrills	then i remove the stuff that isnt new-- stuff before this year
[04:03]	highest_cubist_thrills	then i see how much new non-github stuff there is
[04:04]	highest_cubist_thrills	itll probably be better next year-- and the year after that too
[04:04]	highest_cubist_thrills	just nothing like the way its suggested by optimism
[04:04]	highest_cubist_thrills	projects are not moving away from github
[04:04]	highest_cubist_thrills	anything that is moving is CRAWLING away 
[04:05]	highest_cubist_thrills	snail like
[04:05]	highest_cubist_thrills	the exodus was in 2018
[04:05]	highest_cubist_thrills	new things still move there-- the state of free software is microsoft
[04:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	and really, ill tell you a great litmus test for roys rhetoric about this
[04:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	roy LOVES loves LOVES to publish
[04:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	so...
[04:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	IF there really was a fucking exodus from github
[04:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	and there isnt btw
[04:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	there would be stories about projects leaving
[04:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	not just "oh, github is bad, a bunch of projects left"
[04:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	no-- roy writes about software all the time
[04:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	where the stories about ACTUAL PROJECTS (with names) that have left recently?
[04:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	there arent any. wouldnt that be a great story for techrights?
[04:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	problem is-- there is no exodus.
[04:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	no story to write about.
[04:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	you might find a project, and if you do-- thats a story in itself.
[04:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	but you arent going to find much, so if you want to paint a rosy picture about this-- you better make shit up.
[04:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	you cant name names cause there isnt much to name.
[04:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	so thats a good litmus test.
[04:12]	highest_cubist_thrills	when this "github exodus" really exists
[04:12]	highest_cubist_thrills	youll be able to write stories that name names.
[04:12]	highest_cubist_thrills	pretty simple.
[04:12]	highest_cubist_thrills	what happens on github-- stays on github.
[04:12]	highest_cubist_thrills	i know an exception: slitaz. moved there. moved away again.
[04:12]	highest_cubist_thrills	im afraid to look if they moved back again.
[04:13]	highest_cubist_thrills	roy should know more exceptions. hes the optimist.
[04:13]	highest_cubist_thrills	id love to know what we can be optimistic about. these (imaginary) projects leaving github deserve credit!
[04:14]	highest_cubist_thrills	leaving github is heroic.
[04:14]	highest_cubist_thrills	it deserves a story.
[04:14]	highest_cubist_thrills	too bad its made up then
[04:17]	starstreak	people probably use github because its free
[04:17]	highest_cubist_thrills	oh without question
[04:17]	highest_cubist_thrills	but they also use it because of network effects
[04:17]	highest_cubist_thrills	its the facebook of repos
[04:17]	highest_cubist_thrills	lots of repos are free
[04:18]	highest_cubist_thrills	then they move to github
[04:18]	highest_cubist_thrills	not from it
[04:18]	highest_cubist_thrills	roy correctly points out 200,000 projects left when microsoft purchased it
[04:18]	highest_cubist_thrills	that definitely indicates something
[04:18]	highest_cubist_thrills	problem is, that was 4 years ago
[04:19]	highest_cubist_thrills	ive been tracking this for a while
[04:19]	highest_cubist_thrills	its not good
[04:19]	highest_cubist_thrills	4  years later we should have more good news than this.
[04:19]	highest_cubist_thrills	we dont, because everything sucks.
[04:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-05.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[04:20]	highest_cubist_thrills	most of the high profile projects that dont use github have done some other treacherous thing
[04:20]	highest_cubist_thrills	like if you want a non-github-based mozilla fork, theres tor browser
[04:20]	highest_cubist_thrills	but tor project was part of the coup
[04:20]	highest_cubist_thrills	so was red hat. so were gcc devs
[04:20]	highest_cubist_thrills	so freedesktop has its own repo
[04:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	but theyre ibm so who cares
[04:21]	starstreak	gnome 43, soon
[04:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	heh
[04:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	how much of gnome is written in rust?
[04:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	i think its mostly c
[04:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	someone said, gnome is c, kde is c++
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[05:03]	DaemonFC	I'd like to post more about "America is a stinking hellhole unless you're rich" in more detail except I don't want to find myself in court or something answering for that during my expungement hearing.
[05:03]	DaemonFC	I don't exactly feel free to speak openly.
[05:04]	DaemonFC	You know, the whole thing about expungement is they act like it's a gift or something, after they've destroyed you and made you an un-person.
[05:06]	DaemonFC	If you look at old pictures of Iran from before the Islamic revolution, it's really quite stunning.
[05:06]	DaemonFC	It was a modern and reasonably free country, at least compared to now.
[05:06]	DaemonFC	Then in 1979, the Revolution happened and they ended up with a violent repressive regime that murders gay people in the streets and forces women to cover their faces. They have no rights, you know.
[05:07]	DaemonFC	Total barbarism.
[05:08]	DaemonFC	And I can't help but feeling like living in America now is like it must have felt before the Shah's government was overthrown in Iran. There must have been people who knew they'd be oppressed and killed very soon and were uneasy, and knew that their days of relative freedom were numbered.
[05:08]	DaemonFC	Trump will do anything to get back into power, and if he does, I don't think he'll actually leave next time.
[05:09]	DaemonFC	When Putin became the "President" of Russia over 20 years ago, there were limits on his power, there were term limits, there was a functioning legislature.
[05:10]	DaemonFC	And you look at it today and anything he signs sails through, unanimously. The guy is a dictator. Why do they even have a legislature?
[05:10]	DaemonFC	Everyone either seems to agree with him or knows they'll be poisoned if they try to start a debate.
[05:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-05.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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[07:58]	psydruid	https://wccftech.com/chinese-moore-threads-mtt-s10-gpu-listed-on-retail-for-112-us-30w-low-profile-design-for-offices/
[07:58]	TR Bot	 Chinese Moore Threads MTT S10 GPU Listed on Retail For $112, A 30W Low-Profile Design For Offices
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[08:28]	TR News	#Techrights Bulletin for Wednesday, October 05, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
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[08:31]	TR News	Tux Machines
[08:31]	TR News	 (NEW): TUXEDO Computers Releases Live ISO of Its Ubuntu-Based TUXEDO OS Linux Distro http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/TUXEDO_Computers_Releases_Live_ISO_of_Its_Ubuntu_Based_TUXEDO_O.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/TUXEDO_Computers_Releases_Live_ISO_of_Its_Ubuntu_Based_TUXEDO_O.gmi 
[08:31]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines TUXEDO Computers Releases Live ISO of Its Ubuntu-Based TUXEDO OS Linux Distro
[08:36]	TR News	Links 06/10/2022: GStreamer 1.21.1, G4S Cracked | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/05/g4s-cracked/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/05/g4s-cracked/
[08:36]	TR Bot	 Links 06/10/2022: GStreamer 1.21.1, G4S Cracked | Techrights
[08:38]	TR News	"I bought this ThinkBook 15 ITL Gen2 in October 2020 and within about 6 months, had to send it in for warrnty repair." https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/10/05/my-2020-lenovo-laptop-is-acting-strangely-again-and-its-not-even-two-years-old/ | Source: DaemonFC (Ryan Farmer)
[08:38]	TR Bot	 My 2020 Lenovo laptop is acting strangely again, and its not even two years old. | BaronHK's Rants
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[08:39]	TR News	"The European Parliament voted overwhelmingly Tuesday to require cellphones and handheld electronic devices sold in the EU" https://www.npr.org/2022/06/07/1103493025/european-union-to-require-mobile-devices-to-have-usb-c-ports | Source: NPR
[08:39]	TR Bot	 The European Union will require all mobile devices to have a USB-C charging port : NPR
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[08:39]	TR News	USB-C stands for Chaos https://martin-ueding.de/posts/usb-c-stands-for-chaos/ |
[08:39]	TR Bot	 USB-C stands for Chaos | Martin Ueding
[08:40]	TR News	[Old] "No one should play Russian roulette with their expensive electronics" https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/best-usb-c-chargers-whats-safe-whats-dangerous/ | Source: Make Use Of
[08:40]	TR Bot	 The Best USB-C Chargers That Are Safe to Use
[08:40]	TR News	[Old] "USB-C is a special case. While you wont blow up your device from plugging in the wrong charger, you can blow up your phone" https://www.extremetech.com/computing/115251-how-usb-charging-works-or-how-to-avoid-blowing-up-your-smartphone | Source: Extreme Tech
[08:40]	TR Bot	USB Charging Works, or How to Avoid Blowing Up Your Phone - ExtremeTech
[08:42]	TR News	"H.265/HEVC userspace API is now declared stable." https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/10/03/linux-6-0-release-main-changes-arm-risc-v-and-mips-architectures/ | Source: CNX Software
[08:42]	TR Bot	 Linux 6.0 release - Main changes, Arm, RISC-V, and MIPS architectures - CNX Software
[08:44]	TR News	"Today, almost everyone reads their email through IMAP and few people have procmail rules any more." https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/sysadmin/OurVarMailMailboxSetup | Source: uni Toronto
[08:44]	TR Bot	 Chris's Wiki :: blog/sysadmin/OurVarMailMailboxSetup
[08:44]	TR News	"Its time to get me up on speed with modern CSS. Theres so much new in CSS that I know too little about." https://www.matuzo.at/blog/2022/100daysof-day7/ | Source: Manuel Matuzovic
[08:44]	TR Bot	 Day 7: subgrids - Manuel Matuzovi
[08:44]	TR News	Day 8: nesting :has() https://www.matuzo.at/blog/2022/100daysof-day8/ | Source: Manuel Matuzovic
[08:44]	TR Bot	 Day 8: nesting :has() - Manuel Matuzovi
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[08:48]	TR News	"Smart homes have many benefits, and its not all about convenience, security, and chores." https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/10/04/build-a-smart-home-entertainment-system/ | Source: Arduino
[08:48]	TR Bot	 Build a smart home entertainment system | Arduino Blog
[08:49]	TR News	"Since 2018, I asked me about how to manage TLSA records, according to the DANE and DNSSEC protocols, for my DNS." https://doc.huc.fr.eu.org/en/post/openbsd-nsd-dnssec-tlsa/ |
[08:49]	TR Bot	 Stphane HUC :: IT Log :: OpenBSD: Manage DNS, DNSSEC (to automate TLSA records)
[08:52]	TR News	"Ive been contributing to OpenStreetMap" https://polarhive.ml/blog/openstreetmap/ | Source: Polarhive
[08:52]	TR Bot	 Contributing to OpenStreetMap - polarhive
[08:52]	TR News	"And to be fair, I think thats perfectly fine." https://austingil.com/under-engineered-productivity-over-engineered-distraction/ | Source: Austin Gil
[08:52]	TR Bot	 Under-Engineered Productivity > Over-Engineered Distractions
[08:53]	TR News	"The code for SQLite is also available, but contributing is even harder than it was at the QEMU days" https://glaubercosta-11125.medium.com/sqlite-qemu-all-over-again-aedad19c9a1c |
[08:53]	TR Bot	 SQLite: QEMU all over again?. In a trip down memory lane, I recall my | by Glauber Costa | Oct, 2022 | Medium
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[08:54]	TR News	"The goal of this iteration is to prepare for future changes: document threats against the chunk server API" https://obnam.org/blog/2022/10/planning/ | Source: Obnam
[08:54]	TR Bot	 Iteration planning: October
[08:54]	TR News	"Over new years this past year I made dura. Its like auto-backup for Git." https://timkellogg.me/blog/2022/10/04/dura |
[08:54]	TR Bot	 Just commit more! - Tim Kellogg
[08:54]	TR News	"This program analyzes audio content of an audio or video file, and make a transcript of it." https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2022-10-04-machine-learning-toolbox.html | Source: Data Swamp
[08:54]	TR Bot	 Solene'% : My open-source machine learning toolbox
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[08:57]	TR News	IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, October 05, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/06/irc-log-051022-2/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/06/irc-log-051022-2/
[08:57]	TR Bot	 IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, October 05, 2022 | Techrights
[08:58]	TR News	"The quotient of 2 independent beta-distributed random variables has a known distribution" https://yingtongli.me/blog/2022/10/05/beta-ratio-scipy.html | Source: Lee Yingtong Li
[08:58]	TR Bot	 Beta ratio distribution for SciPy
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[09:02]	TR News	"Organisers at the W3C are working on various initiatives related to sustainability." https://jamesg.blog/2022/10/04/w3c-sustyweb-first-meeting/ | Source: James G
[09:02]	TR Bot	 Joining my first W3C Sustainability CG meeting | James' Coffee Blog
[09:02]	TR News	[Old] "Open standards offer us something called "permissionless innovation"." https://openstandards.nz/open-standards-presentation |
[09:02]	TR Bot	 Level The Playing Field - Open Standards NZ Presentation | Open Standards NZ
[09:04]	TR News	... and bill gates https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11283941/Andrew-horrible-bully-revolving-door-women-ex-officer-tells-new-documentary.html
[09:04]	TR Bot	 Prince Andrew braces for new PR nightmare in bombshell new documentary | Daily Mail Online
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[09:06]	TR News	[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D375.jpg
[09:06]	TR News	[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D720.jpg
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[09:07]	TR News	Thus spake the master programmer: time for you to leave. gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/10/05.1
[09:09]	TR News	EasyOS: revisiting my past gemini://gemini.hitchhiker-linux.org/gemlog/easyos_revisiting_my_past.gmi
[09:10]	TR News	Gemini: The New Frontier gemini://gemini.sh0.xyz/log/2022-10-05.gmi "And of course an handful of people running their own machines, switching over from the old dial up BBS to the new internet."
[09:11]	TR News	Natural Alienation gemini://josias.dev/gemlog/alienation.gmi "I went outside thrice today. I fed the cats, pulled some books out of storage, and fed the cats again. I also walked in circles for some exercise. What am I doing?"
[09:11]	TR News	"The remainder of the piece is more bright, much unlike the perfect dampening of distributed matter at the Heat Death of the Universe, which, they say, is right around the corner, as it always has been and should certainly be." gemini://thurk.org/blog/578.gmi
[09:12]	TR News	EU Votes For USB-C Chargers, Apple Must Comply https://odysee.com/@AlphaNerd:8/eu-votes-for-usb-c-chargers,-apple-must:b
[09:12]	TR Bot	 EU Votes For USB-C Chargers, Apple Must Comply
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[09:15]	TR News	Elon 'pedo guy' Musk is what I too have called him for years https://boingboing.net/2022/10/04/russias-top-diplomat-looking-to-bestow-special-heroic-rank-upon-elon-pedo-guy-musk.html
[09:15]	TR Bot	 Russia's top diplomat looking to bestow special heroic rank upon Elon "Pedo Guy" Musk | Boing Boing
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[09:17]	TR News	You Don't Own the Software You Bought, You Own a License - SoylentNews https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/10/05/1412249 Source: Soylent News | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/10/05/1412249
[09:17]	TR Bot	 You Don't Own the Software You Bought, You Own a License - SoylentNews
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[09:19]	TR News	"The Retroid Pocket 3 is a low-cost portable console based on the quad-core Unisoc T310 SoC." https://linuxgizmos.com/gaming-handheld-console-available-for-124/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
[09:19]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/gaming-handheld-console-available-for-124/ )
[09:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-05.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[09:21]	TR News	"Two Beta updates have landed for the Steam Deck with a Client and an OS update available" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/steam-deck-beta-updates-fix-red-dead-redemption-2-and-external-screen-changes/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[09:21]	TR Bot	Deck Beta updates fix Red Dead Redemption 2 and external screen changes | GamingOnLinux
[09:21]	TR News	"Klei are back with a brand new big update to Oxygen Not Included, after they decided not to do any more paid DLC so this is the first of many free updates to come." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/oxygen-not-included-has-a-new-animated-short-plus-a-story-trait-system-update/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[09:21]	TR Bot	Not Included has a new animated short, plus a 'Story Trait System' update | GamingOnLinux
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[09:24]	TR News	"Overwatch 2 is out now free to play and it can run quite nicely on Steam Deck" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/heres-how-to-play-overwatch-2-on-steam-deck-linux/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[09:24]	TR Bot	how to play Overwatch 2 on Steam Deck / Linux | GamingOnLinux
[09:27]	TR News	"The WHLE-LS1 is a Single Board Computer (SBC) powered by QorIQ Layerscape processors targeting networking and industrial applications." https://linuxgizmos.com/networking-board-equipped-with-nxp-layerscape-series-processors/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
[09:27]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/networking-board-equipped-with-nxp-layerscape-series-processors/ )
[09:27]	TR News	"Destiny 2 is one of the biggest and most popular shooters around and sadly it doesn't work on Steam Deck / Linux." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/go-tell-bungie-you-want-destiny-2-on-steam-deck-linux/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[09:27]	TR Bot	tell Bungie you want Destiny 2 on Steam Deck / Linux | GamingOnLinux
[09:27]	TR News	"Need some classic RPGs in your life? Check out the RPG Legends: Baldur's Gate & Beyond bundle with some great picks." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/humble-have-a-nice-list-of-classics-in-the-rpg-legends-bundle/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[09:27]	TR Bot	have a nice list of classics in the RPG Legends bundle | GamingOnLinux
[09:28]	techuser	or go to some BitTorrent tracker and download these RPGs
[09:28]	TR News	"Being one of the most popular text editors, Vim also influences other modern text editors." https://linuxhandbook.com/install-vim-plugins/ | Source: Linux Handbook
[09:28]	TR Bot	 How to Install and Use Vim Plugins
[09:28]	TR News	"Linux users can have a virtual block device called a "loop device" that maps a normal file to a virtual block, making it ideal for tasks related to isolating processes." https://linuxhandbook.com/create-virtual-block-device/ | Source: Linux Handbook
[09:28]	TR Bot	 Create Virtual Block (Loop Device) on Linux
[09:34]	TR News	"Linear programming is a simple technique that uses linear functions to represent complex relationships and then finds the optimum points." https://www.unixmen.com/what-is-linear-programming/ | Source: Unix Men
[09:34]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.unixmen.com/what-is-linear-programming/ )
[09:34]	schestowitz[TR]	techuser: if it's not "lost sale"
[09:35]	TR News	"The openSUSE community is filled with tons of volunteers, professionals and hobbyists who contribute to the project and want to see it thrive" https://news.opensuse.org/2022/10/05/run-a-booth/ |
[09:35]	TR Bot	 Run a Booth, Increase Awareness of openSUSE - openSUSE News
[09:35]	TR News	"In this article, I will walk through a scenario for configuringcontainer runtimes to run Wasm workloads from lightweight container images" https://opensource.com/article/22/10/wasm-containers | Source: OpenSource.com
[09:35]	TR Bot	OCI containers to run WebAssembly workloads | Opensource.com
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[09:38]	TR News	VideoLAN to India: If you love FOSS so much, why have you blocked our downloads? http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/VideoLAN_has_issued_a_legal_notice_to_DoT_and_MeitY_for_banning.shtml
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[09:38]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines VideoLAN has issued a legal notice to DoT and MeitY for banning their website in India (UPDATED)
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[09:43]	TR News	 (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/today_s_howtos.gmi 
[09:43]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's howtos
[09:43]	TR News	 (NEW): Games: Steam, Humble, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/Games_Steam_Humble_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/Games_Steam_Humble_and_More.gmi 
[09:43]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Games: Steam, Humble, and More
[09:43]	TR News	 (UPDATED): VideoLAN has issued a legal notice to DoT and MeitY for banning their website in India (UPDATED) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/VideoLAN_has_issued_a_legal_notice_to_DoT_and_MeitY_for_banning.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/VideoLAN_has_issued_a_legal_notice_to_DoT_and_MeitY_for_banning.gmi 
[09:49]	TR News	"Secure Shell (SSH) is a widely adopted network protocol, which allows us to interact with remote hosts in a secure way." https://www.tecmint.com/ssh-command-usage/ | Source: TecMint
[09:49]	TR Bot	 Most Common SSH Command Usage and Configuration in Linux
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[09:53]	schestowitz[TR]	gm, highest_cubist_thrills 
[09:53]	schestowitz[TR]	must be 5am there
[09:54]	TR News	"hree scientists have shared this years Nobel Prize in Physics for their research on quantum technology." https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/quantum-scientists-win-nobel-prize-physics | Source: Times Higher Education
[09:54]	TR Bot	 Quantum scientists win Nobel Prize in Physics | Times Higher Education (THE)
[09:54]	TR News	"On the other hand, power-hungry laptops that need more than 100 watts still use proprietary connections for their massive adapters." https://www.pcworld.com/article/1341415/europe-sets-deadline-for-usb-c-charging-for-almost-all-laptops.html | Source: PC World
[09:54]	TR Bot	charging is about to get a lot more popular | PCWorld
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[10:00]	TR News	"Judge Elizabeth Kelly in the Genesee County Circuit Court ruled the charges were invalid against the officials" https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/3673742-charges-dismissed-against-7-people-in-flint-water-crisis/ | Source: The Hill
[10:00]	TR Bot	 Charges dismissed against 7 people in Flint water crisis | The Hill
[10:01]	TR News	"Five-factor model personality traits (neuroticism, extraversion, openness, agreeableness, conscientiousness) are thought to be relatively impervious to environmental demands in adulthood." https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0274542 | Source: PLOS
[10:01]	TR Bot	 Differential personality change earlier and later in the coronavirus pandemic in a longitudinal sample of adults in the United States | PLOS ONE
[10:01]	TR News	"The University of Michigan will prohibit the use of all tobacco products on all of its campuses effective Nov. 17" https://record.umich.edu/articles/u-m-to-ban-tobacco-products-across-all-campuses/ | Source: uni Michigan
[10:01]	TR Bot	 U-M to ban tobacco product use on all campuses | The University Record
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[10:06]	TR News	"Vaping will be banned on the University of Michigan's Ann Arbor, Dearborn and Flint campuses" https://eu.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2022/10/03/vaping-other-tobacco-use-to-be-banned-at-um/69534324007/ | Source: Digital First Media
[10:06]	TR Bot	 Vaping, other tobacco use, to be banned at UM
[10:08]	TR News	"The Los Angeles County District Attorney announced on Tuesday the arrest of Eugene Yu, the CEO of a small company that makes software for scheduling poll workers and had a contract with L.A. County." https://text.npr.org/1126881222 | Source: NPR
[10:08]	TR Bot	 A software CEO was arrested on suspicion of storing poll worker data in China
[10:08]	TR News	"The DOJ said the defendant, Sebastian Vachon-Desjardins, participated in a sophisticated form of ransomware known as NetWalker" https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/3674772-canadian-sentenced-in-netwalker-ransomware-attacks/ | Source: The Hill
[10:08]	TR Bot	 Canadian sentenced in NetWalker ransomware attacks | The Hill
[10:09]	TR News	"Are there meatspace models for things besides concurrency?" https://buttondown.email/hillelwayne/archive/i-am-a-sql-injection-attack-5019/ | Source: Buttondown
[10:09]	TR Bot	 I am a SQL Injection Attack Buttondown
[10:09]	TR News	Surveillance "accredited technology" https://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2022/10/04/the-online-safety-bill-reboot-it-or-shoot-it/ | Source: Light Blue Touchpaper
[10:10]	TR Bot	( status 500 @ https://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2022/10/04/the-online-safety-bill-reboot-it-or-shoot-it/ )
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[10:17]	TR News	"In Michigan alone, multiple recent incidents have put officials on edge." https://www.salon.com/2022/10/04/security-risk-officials-sound-the-alarm-over-sabotage-from-pro-poll-workers_partner/ | Source: Salon
[10:17]	TR Bot	risk: Election officials sound the alarm over sabotage from pro-Trump poll workers | Salon.com
[10:18]	TR News	"In an Open Letter, eleven organisations criticise the creation of an infrastructure for predictive migration technologies" https://digit.site36.net/2022/10/05/criticism-over-research-eu-commission-funds-platform-to-predict-migration-flows/ | Source: Site36
[10:18]	TR Bot	 Criticism over research: EU Commission funds platform to predict migration flows Security Architectures in the EU
[10:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-05.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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[10:29]	TR News	"These arresting images illustrate the scale of this change" https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg25634060-800-striking-photos-show-scale-of-development-in-sub-saharan-africa/ | Source: New Scientist
[10:29]	TR Bot	 Striking photos show scale of development in sub-Saharan Africa | New Scientist
[10:30]	TR News	"The Right Stuff" https://www.salon.com/2022/10/05/to-the-right-to-the-right-peter-thiel-invested-15m-in-right-wing-dating-app-the-right-stuff/ | Source: Salon
[10:30]	TR Bot	the right, to the right": Peter Thiel invested $1.5m in right-wing dating app "The Right Stuff" | Salon.com
[10:30]	TR News	[Old] "And, in an additional tweet, Benson noted that the voting machine was originally from Wexford County" https://www.npr.org/2022/09/08/1121682138/a-hacker-bought-a-voting-machine-on-ebay-michigan-officials-are-now-investigatin | Source: NPR
[10:30]	TR Bot	 A hacker bought a voting machine on eBay. Michigan officials are now investigating : NPR
[10:34]	TR News	"When the RNC sends out millions of fundraising emails on a daily basis asking potential suckers for money" https://boingboing.net/2022/10/05/rncs-ronna-mcdaniel-wants-to-sue-google-because-people-mark-gop-junk-mail-as-spam.html | Source: BoingBoing
[10:34]	TR Bot	 RNC's Ronna McDaniel wants to sue Google because people mark GOP junk mail as "spam" | Boing Boing
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[10:45]	TR News	Censorship by Putler: "Olga Valeeva, who was named Mrs Queen Beauty Crimea 2022" https://edition.cnn.com/2022/10/05/europe/miss-crimea-fined-ukrainian-song-intl/index.html | Source: CNN
[10:45]	TR Bot	 Crimean beauty queen fined for singing patriotic Ukrainian song | CNN
[10:45]	TR News	Censorship by Putler: "Valeyeva was fined 40,000 rubles ($677) and her friend was sentenced to 10 days behind bars for the performance" https://nypost.com/2022/10/04/miss-crimea-fined-for-singing-patriotic-ukrainian-song/ | Source: NYPost
[10:45]	TR Bot	 Miss Crimea fined by Russia for singing patriotic Ukrainian song
[10:52]	TR News	"Akarsel was shot in front of her home at around 10 a.m. local time, and was immediately killed" https://bianet.org/english/women/268034-kurdish-feminist-journalist-nagihan-akarsel-killed-in-armed-attack-in-iraqi-kurdistan | Source: BIA Net
[10:52]	TR Bot	 Kurdish feminist journalist Nagihan Akarsel killed in armed attack in Iraqi Kurdistan - english
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[11:07]	TR News	"Loosely constructed as model towns, Riotsvilles served as training grounds for the police and military, stages for mock riots" https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/riotsville-usa/ | Source: The Nation
[11:07]	TR Bot	 How the Police Became an Occupying Army | The Nation
[11:07]	TR News	"Not just that, Nikas aunt Atash, who posted about Nika on her social media accounts" https://www.firstpost.com/world/anti-hijab-protest-iran-nika-shakarami-body-snatched-buried-secretly-to-avoid-outrage-11391001.html | Source: Firstpost
[11:07]	TR Bot	 Iran: Teen woman protester's body snatched by security forces, buried secretly to avoid outrage
[11:13]	TR News	"Jamal Khashoggis murder 4 years ago was also an attack on freedom of expression everywhere" https://www.frontpagemag.com/jamal-khashoggi-vs-marc-bennett-whose-life-matters/ | Source: Frontpage Magazine
[11:13]	TR Bot	 Jamal Khashoggi vs. Marc Bennett: Whose Life Matters? | Frontpage Mag
[11:14]	TR News	Software Patents https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/10/03/scotus-rejects-apples-bid-to-cancel-qualcomms-5g-patents | Source: AppleInsider
[11:14]	TR Bot	rejects Apple's bid to cancel Qualcomm's 5G patents | AppleInsider
[11:14]	TR News	[Old] Software Patents https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/us-urges-supreme-court-reject-apple-appeal-qualcomm-patent-fight-2022-05-25/ | Source: Reuters
[11:14]	TR Bot	urges Supreme Court to reject Apple appeal in Qualcomm patent fight | Reuters
[11:16]	TR News	"The board upheld the patents in 2020, and Apple appealed to the patent-specialist U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit." https://www.reuters.com/technology/apple-loses-second-bid-challenge-qualcomm-patents-us-supreme-court-2022-10-03/ | Source: Reuters
[11:16]	TR Bot	loses second bid to challenge Qualcomm patents at U.S. Supreme Court | Reuters
[11:16]	TR News	"In 2020, the patents were upheld, and Apple appealed to the US Patent and Trademark Office, invoking legal validity because Qualcomm could sue again after its license expires in 2025." https://www.itworldcanada.com/post/apple-loses-another-attempt-to-nullify-qualcomm-patents | Source: IT World CA
[11:16]	TR Bot	 Apple loses another attempt to nullify Qualcomm patents - IT World Canada
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[11:22]	TR News	"Creative Commons has proactively worked with policymakers and other key stakeholders" https://creativecommons.org/2022/10/05/ccs-engagement-on-eus-artificial-intelligence-act/ | Source: Creative Commons
[11:22]	TR Bot	 CCs Engagement on EUs Artificial Intelligence Act - Creative Commons
[11:23]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: I'm writing a post about The Handmaid's Tale and how realistic the possible collapse scenario of the US Government actually is.
[11:24]	schestowitz[TR]	I only head of it
[11:24]	schestowitz[TR]	but did not read it
[11:25]	schestowitz[TR]	*heard
[11:25]	schestowitz[TR]	anyway, US oligarchs are like Russian oligarchs
[11:25]	schestowitz[TR]	with their private jets and second mansions in other nations
[11:27]	TR News	20 Years of Creative Commons https://creativecommons.org/2022/10/05/join-us-to-celebrate-20-years-of-creative-commons/ | Source: Creative Commons
[11:27]	TR Bot	 Join Us to Celebrate 20 Years of Creative Commons - Creative Commons
[11:27]	TR News	"Cops kill dogs literally all the time. It happens so often even the DOJ has taken notice." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/05/court-strips-immunity-from-cop-who-shot-a-dog-within-seconds-of-arriving-on-the-scene-of-a-non-crime/ | Source: Techdirt
[11:27]	TR Bot	Strips Immunity From Cop Who Shot A Dog Within Seconds Of Arriving On The Scene Of A Non-Crime | Techdirt
[11:28]	TR News	"RIAA and MPA are bad" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/05/book-publishing-giant-pulls-nearly-1400-ebook-titles-from-gw-library-forcing-students-to-buy-them-instead/ | Source: Techdirt
[11:28]	TR Bot	Publishing Giant Pulls Nearly 1400 Ebook Titles From GW Library; Forcing Students To Buy Them Instead | Techdirt
[11:30]	TR News	Governments to free thinkers: what are you doing offline and in IRC (not controlled by dim-witted censored)? You should go on social control media and youtube where we can hide and censor (or even manipulate) your point of view. It's hard to do offline and in IRC.
[11:35]	TR News	The drone industry makes suicide bombers now. "In the present wars, the military is increasingly using remote-controlled warheads." https://digit.site36.net/2022/10/05/loitering-munition-rheinmetall-sells-first-kamikaze-drones-to-nato-state/ | Source: Site36
[11:35]	TR Bot	 Loitering munition: Rheinmetall sells first kamikaze drones to NATO state Security Architectures in the EU
[11:37]	TR News	"In production environments, all servers run securely, but server certificates may expire after some period." https://opensource.com/article/22/9/dynamically-update-tls-certificates-golang-server-no-downtime | Source: OpenSource.com
[11:37]	TR Bot	update TLS certificates in a Golang server without downtime | Opensource.com
[11:40]	TR News	EU Votes For USB-C Chargers, Apple Must Comply - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Mv6SRXdGk0A | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/Mv6SRXdGk0A
[11:40]	TR Bot	 EU Votes For USB-C Chargers, Apple Must Comply - Invidious
[11:50]	TR News	"The left, says Bree Carlson, needs to rethink its strategy" https://www.thenation.com/article/activism/bree-carlson-interview/ | Source: The Nation
[11:50]	TR Bot	 Why the Left Needs to Change How It Fights | The Nation
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[11:57]	TR News	FBI Targeted Former NSA Employee Who Had Substantial Debt https://thedissenter.org/manufacturing-espionage-fbi-targeted-nsa-employee-with-debt/ | Source: The Dissenter
[11:57]	TR Bot	 FBI Targeted Indebted NSA Employee As 'Insider Threat'
[11:58]	TR News	"We spoke with two of the Hungarian public teachers who were recently fired for taking part in the civil disobedience movement" https://telex.hu/english/2022/10/05/weve-been-saying-for-twelve-years-that-sinking-deeper-is-not-possible-but-as-it-turns-out-it-always-is | Source: Telex (Hungary)
[11:58]	TR Bot	 Telex: For twelve years we thought that sinking deeper is not possible, but as it turns out, it is
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[12:01]	TR News	Microsoft facilitates fraud, not just committing fraud https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/10/glut-of-fake-linkedin-profiles-pits-hr-against-the-bots/ | Source: Krebs On Security http://techrights.org/2022/10/01/blame-shifting/
[12:01]	TR Bot	 Glut of Fake LinkedIn Profiles Pits HR Against the Bots Krebs on Security
[12:01]	TR Bot	 Microsoft Doesnt Like Open Source; Its Badmouthing, Stereotyping, Attacking It (to Shift Blame) | Techrights
[12:03]	TR News	Optimism of the Will https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/10/06/optimism-of-the-will-3/ | Source: Counter Punch
[12:03]	TR Bot	of the Will - CounterPunch.org
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[12:05]	TR News	transparency international is itself corrupt https://telex.hu/english/2022/10/06/transparency-international-willing-to-join-anti-corruption-task-force-under-certain-conditions see https://techrights.org/2015/10/30/press-spokesperson-and-transparency-international/
[12:05]	TR Bot	 Telex: Transparency International willing to join Anti-Corruption Task Force under certain conditions
[12:05]	TR Bot	 EPO Press Spokesperson and Obvious Conflicts of Interest With Supposed Anti-Corruption Group Transparency International | Techrights
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[12:08]	TR News	Stadia https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/05/stadia-developers-blindsided-by-shutdown/ | Source: Techdirt
[12:09]	TR Bot	Developers Blindsided By Shutdown | Techdirt
[12:09]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: I wrote: Communists are famous for making life unbelievably shitty and then shooting people in the back for trying to get out or filling a GULAG with people who don't want to live under Communism, which is also a "mental illness" you know. 
[12:09]	DaemonFC	The Soviets called not wanting to live under Communism "sluggish schizophrenia". There's a national highway going through Russia today that was built by GULAG labor, and 140,000 people who died building it are buried directly under the road. However, even with that going on, liberals in America, especially professors and musicians, and artists, often tried to paint a rosy picture of life in...
[12:09]	DaemonFC	...the Soviet Union.
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[12:10]	schestowitz[TR]	but wait..
[12:10]	schestowitz[TR]	I have not seen your post yet
[12:10]	schestowitz[TR]	be sure to point out that the Modern Campitalism
[12:10]	schestowitz[TR]	i.e. exploitation mexed up
[12:11]	schestowitz[TR]	leads to similar results, maybe less directly
[12:11]	schestowitz[TR]	because it has maxed up the borrowings
[12:11]	starstreak	as bad as communism has been in practice, capitalism is responsible for even worse
[12:12]	DaemonFC	Well, you give me a choice between this or China and it's this, this, definitely this.
[12:12]	schestowitz[TR]	how many die in the US each year because they cannot get very basic medical treatment?
[12:12]	DaemonFC	Less than in China.
[12:12]	schestowitz[TR]	china has better heath care system than the US
[12:12]	DaemonFC	(per capita)
[12:12]	schestowitz[TR]	in the US it's privatised
[12:12]	schestowitz[TR]	you're better off when you are rich
[12:12]	schestowitz[TR]	or when you sell your home
[12:12]	schestowitz[TR]	to survive
[12:12]	DaemonFC	Do you need more medical care when there's so much air pollution in China you can't see 4 feet in front of your nose?
[12:12]	DaemonFC	:)
[12:13]	schestowitz[TR]	not every place in china
[12:13]	DaemonFC	Assuming you can even get it and it's not one of those Communist things.
[12:13]	schestowitz[TR]	also, us has cancer ally, flint, puerto rico...
[12:13]	DaemonFC	Where they say you have medical care, and then you can't actually use it.
[12:13]	schestowitz[TR]	the us is no grand canyon
[12:13]	schestowitz[TR]	never mind gun crime
[12:13]	DaemonFC	Pretty much every country that has national healthcare makes it almost impossible to use.
[12:14]	schestowitz[TR]	not china
[12:14]	DaemonFC	Like, you can have the operation 6 years from now, but you'll die in a year without it.
[12:14]	DaemonFC	But it's free, you know! :)
[12:14]	schestowitz[TR]	china's health care access is better than us
[12:14]	schestowitz[TR]	even cuba's
[12:14]	DaemonFC	Most National Healthcare is fairly shitty.
[12:14]	schestowitz[TR]	no, china does it better on health
[12:14]	schestowitz[TR]	from people I know who lived there
[12:14]	DaemonFC	It's free, but they make you wait so long you'll be dead six times over even though it's "free" and for some reason your taxes are really horrible.
[12:14]	DaemonFC	Totally unrelated.
[12:15]	schestowitz[TR]	china is worse off in many ways
[12:15]	schestowitz[TR]	but now you mix things
[12:15]	DaemonFC	Then they all thumb their nose at me where I could have the operation next month if I needed it, and live.
[12:15]	DaemonFC	And maybe pay 5% of the bill.
[12:15]	DaemonFC	While the hospitals and ERs in Canada fail due to the doctors fleeing the country and coming here.
[12:16]	DaemonFC	While Trudeau is trying to add more unfunded mandates.
[12:16]	schestowitz[TR]	you are mixing two things
[12:16]	schestowitz[TR]	the US has very good doctors
[12:16]	schestowitz[TR]	from all around the world
[12:16]	schestowitz[TR]	but they come for the rich people
[12:16]	schestowitz[TR]	or people to prey on
[12:16]	DaemonFC	That's usually what happens when the government says "Hell Doctor. Work for what you made in the year 2000 because our budget won't be increased. Thanks!"
[12:16]	schestowitz[TR]	that does not benefit you and Manddddy
[12:16]	DaemonFC	"BTW, the border is open."
[12:16]	schestowitz[TR]	you're hardly on their radar
[12:17]	DaemonFC	*Hello
[12:17]	DaemonFC	I mean, they're a doctor.
[12:17]	DaemonFC	Why wouldn't they leave and just work in the US?
[12:17]	schestowitz[TR]	two tired in the US
[12:17]	schestowitz[TR]	the poor, maybe 90%
[12:17]	DaemonFC	They'll make more money here.
[12:17]	schestowitz[TR]	and the 19%
[12:17]	schestowitz[TR]	10%
[12:17]	schestowitz[TR]	who have (IIRC) like 3/4 of the US capital
[12:17]	DaemonFC	So what you have in the NHS countries are shitty doctors and about 1 of them for every 10 doctors you need.
[12:17]	schestowitz[TR]	the 90% hold onto scraps
[12:18]	DaemonFC	Hence, 6 year waiting lists and stuff.
[12:18]	schestowitz[TR]	and work two jobs to pay a mortgage they can never fully pay anyway
[12:18]	schestowitz[TR]	so they will default
[12:18]	schestowitz[TR]	and give it to the bank anyway
[12:18]	schestowitz[TR]	NHS absorbed many good doctors and nurses from other countries too
[12:18]	schestowitz[TR]	it's under attack
[12:18]	schestowitz[TR]	by US firms mostly
[12:18]	schestowitz[TR]	with 'UK' offshoots
[12:18]	DaemonFC	Of course it is. The government is cheap.
[12:19]	DaemonFC	It's cheaper for Liz Trump and Bogus and everyone if you just fucking die.
[12:19]	DaemonFC	Then they don't have to pay shit.
[12:19]	DaemonFC	Real nice system.
[12:19]	schestowitz[TR]	anyway, back to tech now
[12:19]	schestowitz[TR]	we're gone astray
[12:19]	schestowitz[TR]	*ve
[12:19]	DaemonFC	I mean, things cost money.
[12:19]	schestowitz[TR]	I plan to do 3 videos this afternoon in a row
[12:19]	starstreak	schestowitz[TR], thank you
[12:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-05.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[12:20]	DaemonFC	You don't get around that just because you push it off someplace else.
[12:20]	schestowitz[TR]	one will be about Windows erosion of share
[12:20]	schestowitz[TR]	seems not no new PCs -> no more Windows "Sales"
[12:20]	DaemonFC	You're like Putin trying to change the nature of the universe with decrees while he loses the territories he claims are annexed in real time.
[12:20]	DaemonFC	That's National Healthcare.
[12:20]	schestowitz[TR]	dude, you want bankrupt
[12:20]	DaemonFC	It does to Economics what Putin's decrees are.
[12:20]	schestowitz[TR]	medical bills were part of it
[12:20]	schestowitz[TR]	*went
[12:21]	schestowitz[TR]	and then you got a criminal record, too
[12:21]	DaemonFC	Yeah, but nobody could actually get anything from me, in fact.
[12:21]	schestowitz[TR]	and you go on bashing canadian and british heal;th services
[12:21]	schestowitz[TR]	back to tech now
[12:21]	DaemonFC	I wiped out the debts de jure in the bankruptcy, but de facto, if there's no money, there's no money.
[12:22]	schestowitz[TR]	ah, that makes the system fine!
[12:22]	DaemonFC	That's mainly why we still have bankruptcy laws. By the time it's that bad, they're not getting anything anyway.
[12:22]	schestowitz[TR]	you dodged paying 110,000 dolars in debt
[12:22]	schestowitz[TR]	"the system works!"
[12:22]	schestowitz[TR]	afaik, you've not been employed since then
[12:22]	schestowitz[TR]	and rely purely on your spouse working
[12:22]	DaemonFC	They can get a judge to order whatever it is they want, but it doesn't matter.
[12:23]	DaemonFC	The judge doesn't wave a magic "Oh he has assets now!" wand and help them collect.
[12:23]	DaemonFC	I have an income, but it's immune from garnishment creditors.
[12:23]	schestowitz[TR]	what income?
[12:24]	DaemonFC	If you take the state's garnishment law and run the calculations, then there's nothing left for them to take.
[12:24]	schestowitz[TR]	what income?
[12:24]	DaemonFC	The calculation comes back less than zero disposable income, and they can't garnish anything.
[12:24]	schestowitz[TR]	what income?
[12:24]	starstreak	schestowitz[TR], he gets paid to disrupt the channel by microsoft
[12:25]	schestowitz[TR]	haha, no
[12:25]	schestowitz[TR]	his better half works
[12:25]	schestowitz[TR]	and then he claims that to be his own income
[12:25]	DaemonFC	I make about 3/4ths of what Mandy does.
[12:25]	DaemonFC	I mean it's not nothing but it's not terrific either.
[12:25]	schestowitz[TR]	doing what work?
[12:25]	DaemonFC	I'm basically back in the same boat as I was with John, when you compare who makes how much.
[12:26]	TR News	"The current list makes the E.U. a hypocrite as major tax havens in Europe like Malta and Luxembourg escape." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/05/not-blacklist-whitewash-eu-slammed-letting-tax-havens-hook | Source: Common Dreams
[12:26]	TR Bot	 'Not a Blacklist' But a 'Whitewash': EU Slammed for Letting Tax Havens Off the Hook
[12:26]	DaemonFC	But Mandy doesn't go grab a $50 pizza for dinner every night on the way home.
[12:26]	schestowitz[TR]	you are dodging the question
[12:26]	schestowitz[TR]	you have no income
[12:26]	schestowitz[TR]	you lied
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[12:26]	TR News	 (NEW): Allwinner V851S/V851SE low-cost camera SoC embeds 64MB DDR2, a 0.5 TOPS NPU http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/Allwinner_V851S_V851SE_low_cost_camera_SoC_embeds_64MB_DDR2_a_0.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/Allwinner_V851S_V851SE_low_cost_camera_SoC_embeds_64MB_DDR2_a_0.gmi 
[12:26]	DaemonFC	I did not lie.
[12:26]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Allwinner V851S/V851SE low-cost camera SoC embeds 64MB DDR2, a 0.5 TOPS NPU
[12:26]	DaemonFC	Not saying what it is I do is not the same as lying.
[12:27]	starstreak	i still think daemon is paid to troll the channel
[12:28]	TR News	 (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/Android_Leftovers.gmi 
[12:28]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Android Leftovers
[12:28]	DaemonFC	Anyway, criminal record goes bye bye here in another 33 days.
[12:28]	schestowitz[TR]	starstreak: no, hhe has been here since around 2008 or 2009
[12:28]	DaemonFC	Maybe I can do better then.
[12:28]	schestowitz[TR]	and doing other jobs
[12:29]	DaemonFC	Do you even know what applying for jobs is like with a petty misdemeanor these days?
[12:29]	TR News	"Smokey is trying to figure out how big Gemini is and if it made sense to share it through a mesh network." gemini://rawtext.club/~ploum/2022-10-06-archiving-smolnet.gmi
[12:30]	DaemonFC	Better to just keep my head down and wait for the expungement and then see what I can see without alerting every potential employer that they didn't hire you last time because of a criminal record that they won't see if they pull things up now.
[12:30]	starstreak	schestowitz[TR], that doesnt mean hes not being paid, so hes been paid since 2008
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[12:31]	starstreak	schestowitz[TR], the chances of someone in this channel being a plant by microsoft is non zero
[12:31]	DaemonFC	In 2008 I was on unemployment for quite some time but that only went on for like 12 months because that's the furthest it got extended.
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[12:31]	schestowitz	"The best part of Veins of the Earth is the cave maps. I have large scale maps covering south western Zakhara (mostly underwater) and plenty of small scale maps, and those more zoomed in are mostly deterministic to generate. (Perfect for #blorb.)
[12:31]	schestowitz	" gemini://idiomdrottning.org/faster-veins
[12:31]	schestowitz	make me think of starstreak
[12:31]	DaemonFC	And then they said you're on your own. We've totally fucked up the country and the election's over so yeah, bye.
[12:31]	schestowitz	with the crazy theory about society underground
[12:32]	starstreak	oh the neanderthals?
[12:32]	TR News	"GAFAM"... our coined term is spreading!! gemini://gemini.astropirados.space/gemlog/instagram.gmi
[12:32]	DaemonFC	2008? The worst of it? They ADMITTED that the OFFICIAL unemployment rate, U3, was 16% in much of Indiana.
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[12:32]	DaemonFC	If you looked at U6, it was over 23% unemployed.
[12:33]	DaemonFC	The U6 figure is always higher, so they don't publish it unless you know right where to look.
[12:33]	DaemonFC	But U6 is more in line with where other countries measure their official unemployment.
[12:33]	DaemonFC	And it looks a lot like Spain or Greece, while our media makes fun of them for not having job.
[12:33]	DaemonFC	*job
[12:33]	DaemonFC	*jobs
[12:33]	DaemonFC	(key stuck)
[12:34]	DaemonFC	"They're a laughingstock because there's no jobs!" But the unemployment rate, U6, is basically Greece! *crickets*
[12:35]	schestowitz[TR]	<DaemonFC> And it looks a lot like Spain or Greece, while our media makes fun of them for not having job.
[12:35]	schestowitz[TR]	yes
[12:35]	schestowitz[TR]	to manufacture consent for the "successful" system
[12:35]	schestowitz[TR]	where 6% look for a job  actively
[12:35]	schestowitz[TR]	and maybe 30% have given up already
[12:35]	schestowitz[TR]	and 40% are "working moms"
[12:35]	schestowitz[TR]	because they have no chance of finding a job
[12:35]	schestowitz[TR]	the media calls them "lazy"
[12:36]	schestowitz[TR]	for not managing to find a job
[12:36]	schestowitz[TR]	and wasting time on envelopes, travel etc.
[12:36]	DaemonFC	Yes, incite the public against people who can't find a job, or even people who have one but can't find a better one.
[12:36]	schestowitz[TR]	then it says immigrants do those jobs instead
[12:36]	schestowitz[TR]	except
[12:36]	schestowitz[TR]	those immigrants are often grossly underpaid and maybe not documented
[12:36]	DaemonFC	Call them irresponsible because there's half as much money as the cost of living.
[12:36]	schestowitz[TR]	so yes
[12:36]	DaemonFC	You play into this when you attack me.
[12:36]	schestowitz[TR]	susan from alabama won't pick fruit for $2 an hour
[12:36]	schestowitz[TR]	she has two saughters to feed
[12:36]	DaemonFC	I fall into the latter.
[12:37]	DaemonFC	I have income, but it's basically shit. So they can't even sue me and take it.
[12:37]	schestowitz[TR]	she is not a single workers from el salvador who lives in a shack
[12:37]	DaemonFC	Pretty much the only thing bill collectors can do to me is leave something on my credit report.
[12:38]	DaemonFC	If I don't pay it.
[12:38]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: I slammed you for badmouthing yourself
[12:38]	schestowitz[TR]	but along racial lines
[12:38]	schestowitz[TR]	when in fact you have a lot in common with them 
[12:38]	schestowitz[TR]	inc. criminal record
[12:38]	schestowitz[TR]	tax evasion OK
[12:38]	schestowitz[TR]	havigna  fight with an ex is crime
[12:38]	DaemonFC	I mean, I'd much rather have a large medical bill in collections than live in the UK where they say I can have the operation I need now in 6 years.
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[12:38]	DaemonFC	And Liz Trump will give tax cuts to the 1%.
[12:38]	schestowitz[TR]	we need to focus more on the class issues, not gender and race aspect
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[12:39]	schestowitz[TR]	there is also some transphobe here who pretends everyone but him is a transphobe
[12:39]	schestowitz[TR]	those are ways to divide and distract,c hange topic
[12:39]	DaemonFC	You mean the transphobe who says he absolutely said transphobic things, who bashes others for transphobia?
[12:40]	starstreak	someone who was transphobic 20 years ago when everyone was transphobic?
[12:40]	schestowitz[TR]	false
[12:40]	schestowitz[TR]	95% of the world still does not accept trans people
[12:40]	DaemonFC	Well, it's obviously not easy to make your neighbors be less stupid and get rid of the Liz Trumps.
[12:40]	schestowitz[TR]	maybe 96% 20 years ago
[12:40]	DaemonFC	Or it would be done already.
[12:40]	schestowitz[TR]	self-censorship is not acceptance
[12:41]	schestowitz[TR]	anyway, Liz Trump might be out soon
[12:41]	DaemonFC	Is it a done deal that the UK is fucked? Probably.
[12:41]	schestowitz[TR]	one way or another
[12:41]	schestowitz[TR]	maybe snap election
[12:41]	DaemonFC	If anything, it's getting worse every time.
[12:41]	schestowitz[TR]	but let's get back to tech
[12:41]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]self-censorship is not acceptance
[12:41]	DaemonFC	That's where things have landed.
[12:42]	schestowitz[TR]	back to tech now
[12:42]	DaemonFC	More people bite their tongue now and then actually hate trans people even worse for having to stifle themselves.
[12:42]	schestowitz[TR]	so anyway, I got some graphis
[12:42]	starstreak	95% seems like too much
[12:42]	schestowitz[TR]	they show GNU/Linux growing a lot this year... and where
[12:42]	starstreak	i think its more like 50% based on my experience
[12:42]	schestowitz[TR]	starstreak: EU and US+Canada is about 8% of the world
[12:42]	DaemonFC	Forcing people to censor themselves leads them to feel oppressed, then justified, then they actually become more bigoted.
[12:42]	schestowitz[TR]	and even there trans are barely accepted
[12:42]	starstreak	oh yeah
[12:42]	schestowitz[TR]	but back to tech
[12:42]	DaemonFC	It's better to just leave them alone instead of screaming about them. What is screaming going to do?
[12:43]	starstreak	trans people are hated in India and China, most of the worlds population is there
[12:43]	DaemonFC	My parents are homophobic and the only thing that's going to change that is clinical death.
[12:43]	schestowitz[TR]	and b y women, too
[12:43]	schestowitz[TR]	remember women are most of the people in the world
[12:43]	schestowitz[TR]	they just learn to keep quiet
[12:44]	DaemonFC	I've accepted that whatever I do, my parents are going to be horrible.
[12:44]	DaemonFC	If anything they've gotten either worse or more open about it with old age.
[12:44]	DaemonFC	Less to lose. Nobody in the environment they're in to answer to for it.
[12:44]	DaemonFC	So they just lose their filter entirely.
[12:45]	schestowitz[TR]	you set your expectatyion low... toa void disappointment
[12:46]	DaemonFC	If dad's lived 70 years and he's only gotten worse each year, then what are the odds he turns on a dime and admits he was wrong now?
[12:46]	TR News	Climate Money https://www.propublica.org/article/mia-mottley-barbados-imf-resilience-trust | Source: Pro Publica, funded by the world's LARGEST polluter (and serious criminal) Bill Gates
[12:46]	TR Bot	 Barbados Will Be Among the First to Receive Climate Money From New International Monetary Fund Resilience Trust ProPublica
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[12:47]	DaemonFC	He was just on Facebook the other day making up a story about buying a homeless person some soup and then the guy "turning out to be a fake who actually had a place to go, but he brother wouldn't let him in when he was on the drugs, so he'd try to get money out of people".
[12:47]	DaemonFC	"So I saw him and another guy looking at the soup like maybe they were trying to trade soup for drugs or something.".
[12:47]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: he won't
[12:47]	DaemonFC	Not an exact quote, but.
[12:47]	schestowitz[TR]	won't admit
[12:47]	schestowitz[TR]	except to make you feel good
[12:48]	DaemonFC	Then he goes on to say almost all homeless people are like that because of a choice.
[12:48]	schestowitz[TR]	i bet you the parents of trans people in this channel are not accepting it either
[12:48]	schestowitz[TR]	sometimes they make special exceptions for their kids
[12:48]	DaemonFC	And Trump and Reagan knew how to make everything work fine.
[12:48]	schestowitz[TR]	sometimes not even that
[12:48]	TR News	"In a coordinated call to action, more than 100 rightsholders and organizations spanning sports and other live entertainment are demanding action" https://torrentfreak.com/end-live-piracy-now-massive-coalition-demands-immediate-eu-action-221006/ | Source: Torrent Freak
[12:48]	TR Bot	Live Piracy Now: Massive Coalition Demands Immediate EU Action * TorrentFreak
[12:48]	TR News	"DISH Network has won yet another significant damages award following a lawsuit filed against a pirate IPTV supplier." https://torrentfreak.com/dish-wins-26-5m-pirate-iptv-judgment-but-might-not-get-a-penny-220510/ | Source: Torrent Freak
[12:48]	DaemonFC	He's on some other planet I guess.
[12:48]	TR Bot	Wins $26.5m Pirate IPTV Judgment But Might Not Get a Penny * TorrentFreak
[12:48]	TR News	"Earthlink has settled a piracy liability lawsuit filed by several movie companies this summer" https://torrentfreak.com/earthlink-will-ask-wholesale-providers-to-block-pirate-site-yts-221005/ | Source: Torrent Freak
[12:48]	TR Bot	Will Ask Wholesale Providers to Block Pirate Site YTS * TorrentFreak
[12:48]	schestowitz[TR]	same for gayness btw
[12:49]	schestowitz[TR]	pride paradaes are about peer aceptance
[12:49]	schestowitz[TR]	among gays
[12:49]	schestowitz[TR]	the outsiders aren't swayed by it
[12:49]	schestowitz[TR]	people are bigoted
[12:49]	schestowitz[TR]	it's also instinctive, tribalism is like this
[12:49]	DaemonFC	"I don't even care anymore. Fuck all of them."
[12:50]	DaemonFC	Has been where I've been at, for about 20 years or so.
[12:50]	schestowitz[TR]	he voted Trump(TM)
[12:50]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: your mom will accept you
[12:50]	schestowitz[TR]	if you fine a "nice girld"
[12:50]	DaemonFC	I don't understand what that's all about.
[12:51]	schestowitz[TR]	and then boast to her friends [sic] at the charuch
[12:51]	schestowitz[TR]	"jesus saved my son"
[12:51]	schestowitz[TR]	*find  *girl
[12:51]	DaemonFC	Like the only point in life is to reproduce and give another child over to the state.
[12:51]	schestowitz[TR]	\*church
[12:51]	DaemonFC	Make someone else live 100 miserable difficult years they don't want and watch everyone they know die and end up homeless and bankrupt maybe.
[12:52]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: the reason to have kids is historic
[12:52]	schestowitz[TR]	techuser gets it
[12:52]	schestowitz[TR]	in the past people had kids to look after them
[12:52]	schestowitz[TR]	as they gre older
[12:52]	schestowitz[TR]	that's still true in some parts of ther world
[12:52]	schestowitz[TR]	mali, niger..
[12:52]	schestowitz[TR]	or too looik after the farm
[12:52]	schestowitz[TR]	whcih fed thhem
[12:52]	schestowitz[TR]	girls were sold by parents
[12:53]	schestowitz[TR]	in exchange for decades of work in the farm
[12:53]	schestowitz[TR]	the kiids were human capital
[12:53]	schestowitz[TR]	labourers
[12:53]	DaemonFC	Yeah, slavery with extra steps.
[12:53]	schestowitz[TR]	now you rent kids
[12:53]	schestowitz[TR]	for slavery
[12:53]	schestowitz[TR]	through companies like apple
[12:53]	schestowitz[TR]	which contract outwards to china
[12:53]	schestowitz[TR]	and soon india
[12:53]	schestowitz[TR]	to change tghe subject perhaps
[12:53]	schestowitz[TR]	they lessen production, sales have collapsed
[12:54]	schestowitz[TR]	now they can use china->india as a smokescreen
[12:54]	TR News	"If you are reading the Lightburn forums, you probably already have a laser cutter of some kind." https://hackaday.com/2022/10/05/60-laser-makes-the-cut-with-new-controller/ | Source: Hackaday
[12:54]	TR Bot	Laser Makes The Cut With New Controller | Hackaday
[12:54]	schestowitz[TR]	capitalism fails completely when you're already hit the bottom low of the labour market
[12:54]	schestowitz[TR]	and then the surplus cannot expand
[12:55]	schestowitz[TR]	and the people in the middle of the pyramid do "ENOUGH IDS ENOUGH" protests
[12:55]	schestowitz[TR]	because they can barely even bathe with hot water anymore
[12:55]	schestowitz[TR]	or east anything but bread with butter
[12:55]	schestowitz[TR]	*eat
[12:56]	schestowitz[TR]	media aptil 2022: bitcoin collapses
[12:56]	schestowitz[TR]	media april 2023: oh, inflation is 24%
[12:56]	schestowitz[TR]	the latter won't be saved by the government, either
[12:56]	schestowitz[TR]	we did this in 2008
[12:56]	schestowitz[TR]	and at a huge cost
[12:56]	schestowitz[TR]	bailing out greedy, corrupt bankers at uour expense
[12:57]	schestowitz[TR]	after they took our homes
[12:57]	schestowitz[TR]	US debt was less than half what it is now
[12:57]	schestowitz[TR]	same for UK debt
[12:57]	schestowitz[TR]	(almost)
[12:57]	TR News	"The Roland CM-500 is a digital synthesizer sound module released in 1991 that combines two incredibly powerful engines into one unit" https://hackaday.com/2022/10/05/fixing-a-30-year-old-roland-bug/ | Source: Hackaday
[12:57]	TR Bot	A 30-year Old Roland Bug | Hackaday
[12:58]	TR News	"In the world order now emerging, it is genuinely strong nations that will prevail over those reliant on power alone" https://scheerpost.com/2022/10/05/patrick-lawrence-the-strong-and-the-merely-powerful/ | Source: Scheerpost
[12:58]	TR Bot	Lawrence: The Strong, and the Merely Powerful - scheerpost.com
[12:59]	DaemonFC	https://www.indexoncensorship.org/2022/10/xi-jinping-china/
[12:59]	TR Bot	 How China's limited human rights have collapsed under Xi Jinping - Index on Censorship Index on Censorship
[12:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 13.05 k/sec., IPFS upstream 108.68 average k/sec., average swarm size 123.38
[12:59]	DaemonFC	"I had my first taste of Chinese censorship in 2007. I was living in Shanghai and working at a lifestyle magazine. In the journalistic world the gig was about as uncontroversial as it gets a calendar of spa treatments and interviews with restaurateurs. But there was a features section and keen to work on something meatier I pitched an article on the rise of obesity in line with the...
[12:59]	DaemonFC	...rise of US fast-food outlets. The editor gave me the thumbs-up and I spent the next month working on it. Only it never got printed. Because the magazine was published from within China, all material had to go through a censor and this censor was not happy. He told the editor that while the article might blame US chains for the problem, ultimate responsibility lay at the hands of the...
[12:59]	DaemonFC	...Chinese Communist Party. How will it reflect on them if they cant control their nations waistlines?"
[12:59]	DaemonFC	LOL
● Oct 06
[13:00]	DaemonFC	Solving obesity the same way there's no air pollution.
[13:00]	DaemonFC	Nobody can publish it and you shoot the people who publish it or threaten them with labor camps.
[13:00]	TR News	 (NEW): Networking board equipped with NXP Layerscape series processors http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/Networking_board_equipped_with_NXP_Layerscape_series_processors.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/Networking_board_equipped_with_NXP_Layerscape_series_processors.gmi 
[13:00]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Networking board equipped with NXP Layerscape series processors
[13:03]	DaemonFC	"The number of independent journalists in China has been significantly wheedled down. Foreign reporters have been driven out, either because their visas werent renewed or because they couldnt operate anymore in an environment in which access to information is tightly controlled. "
[13:03]	DaemonFC	They threw out the last of those to cover up how bad COVID actually got in China.
[13:03]	DaemonFC	In reality, it probably got as bad or worse in China as anywhere else.
[13:04]	DaemonFC	But the Communist Party will never admit that.
[13:06]	DaemonFC	https://edition.cnn.com/2022/10/05/business/fitch-outlook-uk/index.html
[13:06]	TR Bot	 Fitch cuts outlook for UK rating to 'negative' from 'stable' | CNN Business
[13:07]	DaemonFC	" The ratings agency forecast Britains general government deficit would reach 7.8% of gross domestic product (GDP) this year and 8.8% in 2023, while general government debt would rise to 109% of GDP by 2024. "
[13:09]	TR News	China Coup https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/10/06/the-china-coup-dupes/ | Source: Counter Punch
[13:09]	TR Bot	China Coup Dupes - CounterPunch.org
[13:10]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: uk joins the fold
[13:10]	schestowitz[TR]	hard to find countries with neutral outlook atm
[13:11]	schestowitz[TR]	war, covid, trump/brexit
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[13:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-05.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[13:21]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: The political status in The Handmaid's Tale of the ongoing war between Gilead and what let's of the United States is implausibly vague at this part of the story.
[13:21]	DaemonFC	It's clear that Gilead has not firmly established control of states West of Indiana on down.
[13:22]	DaemonFC	The front is established as Chicago, however the US flag only has two stars left on it (Alaska and Hawaii).
[13:23]	DaemonFC	If the front in the war is actually Chicago, it's pretty obvious the rump state of the US is a lot bigger than Alaska and Hawaii.
[13:24]	DaemonFC	Gilead has managed to gain a firm grip on the majority of the eastern seaboard, and as it goes west, it seems that they're no longer in undisputed control as of Illinois.
[13:25]	DaemonFC	Their troops are seen conducting bombings and raids in Chicago, but they don't control it. They send in soldiers on train and it's apparently turned into a siege.
[13:26]	DaemonFC	I'm not exactly sure how this would happen. Chicago isn't well protected from "Gilead" coming across the border from Indiana.
[13:27]	DaemonFC	Who are they in a fight with? The Democrats have disarmed everyone except street gangs.
[13:27]	DaemonFC	Street gangs and remnants of the Illinois National Guard?
[13:28]	DaemonFC	Maybe some former police officers?
[13:28]	DaemonFC	It seems the story doesn't want to commit to details about how the war is actually going.
[13:29]	schestowitz[TR]	this is off topic
[13:30]	TR News	"I know that Elon claims hes decided he might actually live up to what he promised to do in the binding contract he signed to buy Twitter" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/05/elon-musks-texts-suggest-way-more-people-in-the-silicon-valley-elite-should-have-imposter-syndrome/ | Source: Techdirt
[13:30]	TR Bot	Musks Texts Suggest Way More People In The Silicon Valley Elite Should Have Imposter Syndrome | Techdirt
[13:31]	TR News	Social control media https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/05/coroner-lists-negative-effects-of-online-content-as-one-of-the-causes-of-a-uk-teens-death/ | Source: Techdirt
[13:31]	TR Bot	Lists Negative Effects Of Online Content As One Of The Causes Of A UK Teens Death | Techdirt
[13:31]	TR News	"The FCC is finally starting to toughen up when it comes to tackling our nationwide robocall scourge" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/05/fcc-finally-starts-playing-hardball-with-robocall-enablers/ | Source: Techdirt
[13:31]	TR Bot	Finally Starts Playing Hardball With Robocall Enablers | Techdirt
[13:32]	DaemonFC	Meh, unreliable narrating is one thing, but this is just pushing it.
[13:33]	DaemonFC	I mostly did give up reading any newer books. It's like good books, movies, and music all simply stopped.
[13:33]	DaemonFC	Maybe 15 years ago?
[13:35]	DaemonFC	WebkitGTK discussing landing some hacks around GCC bugs on ARM.
[13:35]	DaemonFC	This is what I was getting at yesterday. The non-x86 GCC ports, some of them are in a very bad state.
[13:37]	schestowitz[TR]	<DaemonFC> Maybe 15 years ago?
[13:37]	schestowitz[TR]	i can relate to this
[13:37]	schestowitz[TR]	I don't read books
[13:37]	schestowitz[TR]	but movies seemed better in then past
[13:37]	schestowitz[TR]	and they still are... the PAST ones
[13:37]	schestowitz[TR]	same for music
[13:38]	schestowitz[TR]	even the "lesser" tracks from the 90s
[13:38]	schestowitz[TR]	better than the "top of the chart" tracks in 2022
[13:38]	schestowitz[TR]	it got so bad I don't keep track of contemporary music at all
[13:38]	schestowitz[TR]	same is true for electronics
[13:38]	schestowitz[TR]	this morning I used an alarm from the mid 90s
[13:39]	schestowitz[TR]	meanwhiile we have a branded toasted that lasted just weeks
[13:39]	schestowitz[TR]	returned it to the shop for replacement
[13:39]	DaemonFC	Someone listed all of Spotify's "best of" by year.
[13:39]	schestowitz[TR]	people might say,
[13:39]	schestowitz[TR]	ok, so by the expensive ones
[13:39]	schestowitz[TR]	but that doesn't work
[13:40]	DaemonFC	And you go to like 1980s and each year probably has 50-60 songs that are really really good out of that 100.
[13:40]	schestowitz[TR]	the expensive ones are jsut expensve, same plastic and bad design underneath
[13:40]	schestowitz[TR]	so you pay for premium trash
[13:40]	DaemonFC	And you get to the 2010s, and it's like 1-2 that you can even listen to.
[13:40]	schestowitz[TR]	and it's still trash
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[13:40]	DaemonFC	I think I got a Kitchenaid toaster or something.
[13:41]	DaemonFC	It's a chrome toaster. It's worked for quite a while. Got it at Target.
[13:41]	schestowitz[TR]	a lot of the youth adores music today.. that was just renditioned
[13:41]	schestowitz[TR]	without knowing the originals were like 50 years old
[13:41]	schestowitz[TR]	"man, i like this tune!"
[13:41]	schestowitz[TR]	"it's from the 70s"
[13:41]	schestowitz[TR]	"oh really?"
[13:41]	DaemonFC	Yeah, I flip through FM and it's some idiot "rapping" to sampled 80s music.
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[13:42]	schestowitz[TR]	redoing 70s music with bigger "tits"
[13:42]	schestowitz[TR]	and with more makup... modern makeup
[13:42]	schestowitz[TR]	on men, too
[13:42]	DaemonFC	Mandy is like that.
[13:42]	schestowitz[TR]	kpop
[13:42]	schestowitz[TR]	lots of man makeup
[13:42]	DaemonFC	He doesn't even realize that it's from the 60s or something, and was redone in the 80s, and now someone else does it.
[13:42]	schestowitz[TR]	you can't even tell if they're gay or "just kpop"
[13:43]	DaemonFC	They redid some old Dionne Warwick song for a kids movie and Mandy thought that was original.
[13:43]	DaemonFC	And it was from the 60s.
[13:43]	schestowitz[TR]	 II'm listening to her right now
[13:45]	TR News	Retro Speaker https://hackaday.com/2022/10/05/retro-speaker-becomes-the-perfect-micro-pc/ | Source: Hackaday
[13:45]	TR Bot	Speaker Becomes The Perfect Micro PC | Hackaday
[13:45]	schestowitz[TR]	our speakers in the living room turn 30 soon
[13:45]	schestowitz[TR]	work as well as new
[13:45]	schestowitz[TR]	also, not plastic made
[13:45]	schestowitz[TR]	so the condition is good
[13:45]	schestowitz[TR]	our printer from 2015 is already yellowish
[13:46]	schestowitz[TR]	the white plastic changes colours within years
[13:46]	schestowitz[TR]	some ollder speakers were mixed material
[13:46]	schestowitz[TR]	'wood' (chips brought together)
[13:46]	schestowitz[TR]	and some plastic and metal
[13:47]	schestowitz[TR]	now it's plastic inside out
[13:47]	schestowitz[TR]	except the chassis
[13:47]	schestowitz[TR]	TVs used to be very heavy
[13:47]	schestowitz[TR]	but were more repairable
[13:47]	schestowitz[TR]	for some of the parts
[13:47]	schestowitz[TR]	also buying expensive TV means better components
[13:48]	DaemonFC	I don't get the anti-Bose crowd. They're not bad for their size.
[13:48]	schestowitz[TR]	and less incentive to NOT repair
[13:48]	schestowitz[TR]	so you could watch the same TV set... for 20-40 years
[13:48]	DaemonFC	I've definitely heard more expensive systems than this that I didn't like as much.
[13:48]	schestowitz[TR]	<DaemonFC> I don't get the anti-Bose crowd
[13:49]	DaemonFC	I have it hooked into the TV to use as the TV's speakers too.
[13:49]	schestowitz[TR]	you sound like a Microsofter
[13:49]	schestowitz[TR]	maybe they're just not impressed by a hyped brand
[13:49]	schestowitz[TR]	speakers these days are cheaply made
[13:49]	DaemonFC	I think they're just mad at the aggressive marketing more than the product.
[13:49]	schestowitz[TR]	and have patents and hype
[13:49]	schestowitz[TR]	and not many pieces
[13:49]	schestowitz[TR]	and some take batteries
[13:49]	schestowitz[TR]	for gimmicks like cordless
[13:49]	schestowitz[TR]	sound bar is a scam
[13:50]	schestowitz[TR]	to sell you one piece for the price that 5 or 7 used to go for
[13:50]	schestowitz[TR]	including woofer
[13:50]	DaemonFC	Yeah, Bose is trying to shove the Wave System out to make room for more Bluetooth shit.
[13:50]	DaemonFC	That's what people should be madder than hell about.
[13:50]	TR News	Section 230 https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/10/06/note-to-scotus-section-230-is-an-acknowledgement-of-reality-not-a-liability-shield/ | Source: Counter Punch
[13:50]	TR Bot	to SCOTUS: Section 230 is an Acknowledgement of Reality, Not a "Liability Shield" - CounterPunch.org
[13:51]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: so there you go
[13:51]	schestowitz[TR]	worthless gimmicks
[13:51]	schestowitz[TR]	I remember in the 90s the wordless headphones
[13:51]	DaemonFC	Bluetooth is really ugly. It almost always falls back to basic codecs that don't work very well.
[13:51]	schestowitz[TR]	even if you put batteries in them
[13:51]	schestowitz[TR]	lots could still go wrong
[13:51]	schestowitz[TR]	I ended up just using a tuner
[13:51]	DaemonFC	They were made to be horrible so that nobody would dare use the "baseline standard".
[13:52]	DaemonFC	You can't go wrong with the audio jack, quality-wise.
[13:52]	schestowitz[TR]	broadcasting from the stereo to a heeadset over what was then not wifi or BT ... cshort range radio... like walkie-talkie
[13:52]	schestowitz[TR]	but takes a lot of battery power
[13:52]	schestowitz[TR]	why not just use a tuner
[13:52]	DaemonFC	Yeah, you mean short range FM?
[13:52]	DaemonFC	Those actually sounded better than Bluetooth.
[13:53]	schestowitz[TR]	like if you want to play a cd in the garden
[13:53]	schestowitz[TR]	without discman
[13:53]	DaemonFC	And it degraded gracefully as you walked away, not like glitching and freezing.
[13:53]	schestowitz[TR]	just headdddphones
[13:53]	schestowitz[TR]	I had an rca tuner
[13:53]	schestowitz[TR]	and that was very energy-efficient
[13:53]	DaemonFC	Bluetooth has the "digital cliff" problem that DTV broadcasts also have.
[13:54]	DaemonFC	It's why nobody uses an antenna now. Even in the same city you can hardly get the stuff coming off the tallest building.
[13:54]	schestowitz[TR]	FM radios = you don't need to broadcast anything
[13:54]	schestowitz[TR]	i still use fm radio soemtimes for football
[13:54]	schestowitz[TR]	on a 1990s tuner
[13:54]	DaemonFC	I use it in the car.
[13:54]	schestowitz[TR]	how 'uncool'
[13:54]	DaemonFC	They keep spamming me wanting me to buy Sirius because I took the car in for an oil change.
[13:55]	schestowitz[TR]	btw, fm receivers are passive
[13:55]	schestowitz[TR]	they don't boadcast any data  on you
[13:55]	DaemonFC	Microsoft is trying to convince them to get rid of analog FM and use "HD Radio".
[13:55]	DaemonFC	That failed miserably for those people who had their car stereo destroyed by NPR, didn't it?
[13:55]	DaemonFC	Not just NPR. NPR in Seattle. LOL
[13:56]	TR News	Boycott Amazon https://truthout.org/articles/amazon-suspends-at-least-50-workers-in-response-to-protest-over-warehouse-fire/ | Source: TruthOut
[13:56]	TR Bot	 Amazon Suspends at Least 50 Workers in Response to Protest Over Warehouse Fire
[13:56]	DaemonFC	Right next to Microsoft.
[13:56]	schestowitz[TR]	funded by Microsoft
[13:56]	schestowitz[TR]	AND by Bill Jeffrey Loliita gates
[13:57]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: $1,700 tuner or listen to only NPR in Seattle for the rest of the car's life. Because nobody bothered to write code for what happens if the JPEG doesn't come all the way through.
[13:57]	TR News	Also boycott Starbucks https://truthout.org/articles/starbucks-union-organizer-says-he-was-fired-for-wearing-suicide-awareness-pin/ | Source: TruthOut
[13:57]	TR Bot	 Starbucks Union Organizer Says He Was Fired for Wearing Suicide Awareness Pin
[13:57]	DaemonFC	Sounds like mjg59_ should have a talk with his Microsoft recruiter about robust failure modes. :)
[13:58]	schestowitz[TR]	wait, was that a JPEG bug?
[13:58]	schestowitz[TR]	I read about it
[13:58]	schestowitz[TR]	but did not know the cause
[13:58]	DaemonFC	Like, the car's tuner will freeze and lock on to that station and you can't even control the volume anymore because the JPEG didn't come through and there's no code to say "Okay, well, we should discard the JPEG then.".
[13:58]	schestowitz[TR]	did they pin it down on edge case/unhancled exception
[13:58]	DaemonFC	Yeah, JPEG.
[13:59]	schestowitz[TR]	and that it is irreversible now?
[13:59]	schestowitz[TR]	but wait
[13:59]	DaemonFC	People driving out of range just as the JPEG was coming in.
[13:59]	schestowitz[TR]	why would a radio get a JPEG?
[13:59]	schestowitz[TR]	wavelet for..?
[13:59]	schestowitz[TR]	and not sanitise input, and...
[13:59]	DaemonFC	Because it's a touch screen that supports "HD Radio".
[13:59]	schestowitz[TR]	no reset button?
[13:59]	DaemonFC	Which includes cover art.
[13:59]	schestowitz[TR]	ah, ther eyou go
[13:59]	schestowitz[TR]	"smart" cars
[13:59]	schestowitz[TR]	"DA BEST... ONLY DA BEST"
● Oct 06
[14:00]	TR News	Ugliest Airplane Ever Built Predicted The Future https://hackaday.com/2022/10/05/ugliest-airplane-ever-built-predicted-the-future/ | Source: Hackaday
[14:00]	TR Bot	Airplane Ever Built Predicted The Future | Hackaday
[14:00]	DaemonFC	Yeah, then for some reason they can't fix it and the dealer has to dig the whole thing out and replace it. :)
[14:01]	DaemonFC	Palefills works again. They bumped the release.
[14:01]	schestowitz[TR]	well, karma
[14:01]	schestowitz[TR]	meanwhile I still use my old electronics
[14:01]	DaemonFC	It was relying on an old JavaScript feature that got removed and replaced in Firefox 58.
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR]	and don't need to ask salespeople, "is that SMART?"
[14:02]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]meanwhile I still use my old electronics
[14:02]	DaemonFC	New appliances suck.
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR]	yeah, but not for the bugs
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR]	mostly how short they last
[14:02]	schestowitz[TR]	von shef kettle... one year, DEAD
[14:02]	DaemonFC	You pay a fucking fortune for them then they break in a couple years and no refund and you're just supposed to give up and replace it.
[14:02]	DaemonFC	I got one for $10 on Amazon.
[14:03]	DaemonFC	It's two years old and still works.
[14:03]	schestowitz[TR]	used how often?
[14:03]	schestowitz[TR]	you should count uses, not time
[14:03]	DaemonFC	Daily, several times.
[14:03]	schestowitz[TR]	maybe you are lucky ;)
[14:03]	schestowitz[TR]	you are an "edge case"
[14:04]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: The seals on the Instant Pots fail about every 3 years or so.
[14:04]	schestowitz[TR]	like the person they put on TV with a car showing at 1,000,000 miles at the gausge
[14:04]	schestowitz[TR]	*gauge
[14:04]	DaemonFC	So they replaced the whole lid for free under the safety recall, which got me a new seal obviously.
[14:04]	DaemonFC	I took some serials off of units at the thrift shop and got some more lids.
[14:04]	DaemonFC	And now we wait. :P
[14:05]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]like the person they put on TV with a car showing at 1,000,000 miles at the gausge
[14:05]	DaemonFC	Yeah, a Volvo.
[14:05]	DaemonFC	Can you believe that shit?
[14:05]	DaemonFC	Time for a nap.
[14:06]	TR News	Just tell people to boycott Starbucks. Losses are the only language Starbucks can understand. https://truthout.org/articles/sanders-warren-slam-starbucks-for-unethical-and-unlawful-union-busting/ | Source: TruthOut
[14:06]	TR Bot	 Sanders, Warren Slam Starbucks for Unethical and Unlawful Union Busting
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[14:07]	schestowitz[TR]	volvo was sold
[14:07]	schestowitz[TR]	the name stays
[14:07]	schestowitz[TR]	the manufacturing change
[14:07]	schestowitz[TR]	the "modern" ones won't last long
[14:07]	schestowitz[TR]	some bad JPEG would "brick" them LOL
[14:09]	TR News	"hacker minded people have looked at various items their pile of stuff" https://hackaday.com/2022/10/05/power-tool-hack-takes-a-new-angle-on-rc-power-plants/ | Source: Hackaday
[14:09]	TR Bot	Tool Hack Takes A New Angle On RC Power Plants | Hackaday
[14:09]	TR News	"From the way that the Anglo media are treating the October 2 Brazilian first-round presidential elections, a casual news consumer may get the impression that the Brazilian Workers Party suffered a crushing defeat." https://fair.org/home/media-spin-lula-victory-as-defeat/ | Source: FAIR
[14:09]	TR Bot	 Media Spin Lula Victory as Defeat - FAIR
[14:12]	TR News	Clown = someone else's computer. Clown desktop = someone else's desktop. https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/61535.html
[14:12]	TR Bot	 mjg59 | Cloud desktops aren't as good as you'd think
[14:13]	TR News	"Fast laptops are expensive, cheap laptops are slow"... FALSE assumption: you use WINDOWS or Mac OSuX
[14:17]	schestowitz[TR]	you could try a laptop from 20 years ago
[14:17]	schestowitz[TR]	with a 20 year-old OS
[14:18]	schestowitz[TR]	but it might be doing a lot of "transphobic shit"
[14:18]	schestowitz[TR]	XP era machines work OK with modern GNU/Linux
[14:18]	schestowitz[TR]	just stay away from KDE , GNOME mostly
[14:18]	schestowitz[TR]	my dad migrated to pc linux os on his xp era PC
[14:18]	schestowitz[TR]	running kde   and firefox
[14:19]	schestowitz[TR]	before firefox was bloated malwarw
[14:19]	schestowitz[TR]	and the web served pages
[14:19]	schestowitz[TR]	not proprietary JS programs
[14:19]	TR News	Use Gemini https://www.maketecheasier.com/bypass-paywalls-of-leading-news-websites/ NewsWaffle is good
[14:19]	TR Bot	 How to Bypass Paywalls of Leading News Websites - Make Tech Easier
[14:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-05.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[14:21]	MinceR	06 151353 < techrights-news> "Fast laptops are expensive, cheap laptops are slow"... FALSE assumption: you use WINDOWS or Mac OSuX
[14:21]	MinceR	...or the "modern" web
[14:21]	TR News	Mother Will Be Pleased: *How It Feels to Be Run Over* (1900) The Public Domain Review https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/how-it-feels-to-be-run-over/ Source: Public Domain Review | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//publicdomainreview.org/collection/how-it-feels-to-be-run-over/
[14:21]	TR Bot	 Mother Will Be Pleased: *How It Feels to Be Run Over* (1900) The Public Domain Review
[14:22]	schestowitz[TR]	MinceR: like dreamwidt
[14:22]	schestowitz[TR]	I'm told it uses some JS something
[14:22]	schestowitz[TR]	I only see plain rss
[14:23]	TR News	Boycott Uber. Bunch of criminals. https://itwire.com/security/ex-cso-of-uber-found-guilty-of-blocking-ftc-investigation.html
[14:23]	TR Bot	- Ex-CSO of Uber found guilty of blocking FTC investigation
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[14:27]	schestowitz[TR]	mozilla CSO: http://techrights.org/2022/09/10/mozilla-three-letter-agencies/
[14:27]	TR Bot	 Mozilla Hired Top-Level Managers Directly From the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), Can They Be Trusted on Privacy? | Techrights
[14:28]	schestowitz[TR]	outsourced mozilla stuff to CIE (Github)
[14:28]	schestowitz[TR]	and hires from CIA
[14:28]	schestowitz[TR]	so woke!!
[14:28]	MinceR	(audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsIbu415naw
[14:28]	TR Bot	https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=VsIbu415naw
[14:28]	TR Bot	timed out after 10000 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=VsIbu415naw )
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[14:33]	TR News	Mozilla protects rich criminals. That's its idea of "good actors".
[14:33]	TR News	"Bill, Neal and Brandon get together to talk about can you just drop linux in place of windows on the business/enterprise desktop" https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/sudo-54/
[14:33]	TR Bot	Enterprise Linux Desktop - Podcasts - TuxDigital
[14:34]	TR News	"Prompt injection attacks against GPT-3, the History of Package Management on FreeBSD, A fresh look at FreeBSD, File Management Tools for Your Favorite Shell, Quick Guide about Video Playback on FreeBSD, and more." https://www.bsdnow.tv/475
[14:34]	TR Bot	 BSD Now 475: Prompt Injection Attacks
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[14:40]	TR News	Upgrade Various Kinds of Packages in Linux at Once With Topgrade - Its FOSS https://itsfoss.com/topgrade/ Source: Its FOSS | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//itsfoss.com/topgrade/
[14:41]	TR Bot	 Upgrade Various Kinds of Packages in Linux at Once With Topgrade - It's FOSS
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[14:46]	TR News	iTWire - Optus breach: govt to allow data-sharing to prevent ID fraud https://itwire.com/security/optus-breach-govt-to-allow-data-sharing-to-prevent-id-fraud.html Source: IT Wire | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//itwire.com/security/optus-breach-govt-to-allow-data-sharing-to-prevent-id-fraud.html
[14:46]	TR Bot	- Optus breach: govt to allow data-sharing to prevent ID fraud
[14:47]	TR News	They should arrest the EXECUTIVES, not this boy https://itwire.com/security/teen-held-for-using-optus-breach-data-in-alleged-sms-scam.html
[14:47]	TR Bot	- Teen held for using Optus breach data in alleged SMS scam
[14:49]	TR News	 (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/today_s_howtos.1.gmi 
[14:49]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's howtos
[14:55]	TR News	 (NEW): Videos and Shows: BigLinux, Enterprise Linux Desktop, and BSD Now http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/Videos_and_Shows_BigLinux_Enterprise_Linux_Desktop_and_BSD_Now.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/Videos_and_Shows_BigLinux_Enterprise_Linux_Desktop_and_BSD_Now.gmi 
[14:55]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Videos and Shows: BigLinux, Enterprise Linux Desktop, and BSD Now
[14:56]	TR News	 (NEW): Sparky 2022.10 SparkyLinux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/Sparky_2022_10_SparkyLinux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/Sparky_2022_10_SparkyLinux.gmi 
[14:56]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Sparky 2022.10 SparkyLinux
[14:56]	TR News	Unexpected Maker TinyS3, FeatherS3 and ProS3 boards feature ESP32-S3 dual-core wireless MCU - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/10/06/unexpected-maker-tinys3-feathers3-and-pros3-boards-esp32-s3/ Source: CNX Software
[14:56]	TR Bot	 Unexpected Maker TinyS3, FeatherS3 and ProS3 boards feature ESP32-S3 dual-core wireless MCU - CNX Software
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[15:02]	psydruid	https://colatkinson.site/linux/riscv/2021/01/27/riscv-qemu/
[15:02]	TR Bot	 Getting started with RISC-V in QEMU - Colin Atkinson's Blog
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[15:19]	TR News	 (NEW): My DIY Dungeons and Dragons ambiance mixer http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/My_DIY_Dungeons_and_Dragons_ambiance_mixer.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/My_DIY_Dungeons_and_Dragons_ambiance_mixer.gmi 
[15:19]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines My DIY Dungeons and Dragons ambiance mixer
[15:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-05.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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[15:21]	TR News	[GIT PULL] sound updates for 6.1-rc1 - Takashi Iwai https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/878rluv48m.wl-tiwai@suse.de/ Source: SUSE's Corporate Programmers | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/878rluv48m.wl-tiwai@suse.de/
[15:21]	TR Bot	 [GIT PULL] sound updates for 6.1-rc1 - Takashi Iwai
[15:23]	TR News	Mike (Laro)soft: Intel sends me overpriced gifts. Now I do puff pieces for them with official marketing photographs. https://www.phoronix.com/news/Intel-oneVPL-2022.2
[15:23]	TR Bot	Releases oneVPL 2022.2 With GPU Copy Improvements, Linux System Analyzer - Phoronix
[15:23]	TR News	[PATCHv2 0/8] zram: Support multiple compression streams - Sergey Senozhatsky https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20221005024014.22914-1-senozhatsky@chromium.org/ Source: Google | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/20221005024014.22914-1-senozhatsky@chromium.org/
[15:23]	TR Bot	 [PATCHv2 0/8] zram: Support multiple compression streams - Sergey Senozhatsky
[15:24]	TR News	[GIT PULL 0/4] ARM SoC updates for 6.1 https://lkml.org/lkml/2022/10/6/254
[15:24]	TR Bot	 LKML: "Arnd Bergmann": [GIT PULL 0/4] ARM SoC updates for 6.1
[15:25]	TR News	Like a TRUE MARKETING salesperson for AMD (inc. the pictures) https://www.phoronix.com/review/amd-cloud-platform see http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/techrights-statement-on-phoronix/
[15:25]	TR Bot	Cloud Platform Makes It Easy To Try Out AMD's Latest CPUs, Accelerators & ROCm Software - Phoronix
[15:25]	TR Bot	 Techrights Statement on Phoronix | Techrights
[15:26]	TR News	"We are happy to announce the release of Qt Design Studio 3.7." Proprietary though. Boo. https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-design-studio-3.7-released
[15:26]	TR Bot	 Qt Design Studio 3.7 Released
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[15:29]	TR News	Handling a Lot of Text in QML - KDAB https://www.kdab.com/handling-a-lot-of-text-in-qml/ Source: KDAB | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.kdab.com/handling-a-lot-of-text-in-qml/
[15:30]	TR Bot	a Lot of Text in QML - KDAB
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[15:42]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Redcore Linux Hardened 2201 Rastaban stable
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● Oct 06
[16:00]	TR News	COVID-19: Now the Third Leading Cause of Death in the United States https://www.anesthesiologynews.com/PRN-/Article/07-22/COVID-19-Now-the-Third-Leading-Cause-of-Death-in-the-United-States/67528
[16:00]	TR Bot	 NO TITLE
[16:00]	TR News	 (NEW): Proprietary Software and Security Failures http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/Proprietary_Software_and_Security_Failures.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/Proprietary_Software_and_Security_Failures.gmi 
[16:00]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Proprietary Software and Security Failures
[16:01]	TR News	NHS late to release this week's figures, which should be posted daily, not weekly https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/?nocache "Last updated on Thursday, 29 September 2022 at 4:00pm"
[16:01]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/?nocache )
[16:09]	XRevan86	https://neuters.de/world/asia-pacific/least-20-people-killed-mass-shooting-thailand-police-2022-10-06/
[16:09]	TR Bot	 Thailand massacre: ex-cop kills 22 children at daycare centre
[16:11]	TR News	IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, October 05, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/06/irc-log-051022-2/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/06/irc-log-051022-2/
[16:11]	TR Bot	 IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, October 05, 2022 | Techrights
[16:12]	TR News	Links 06/10/2022: Sparky 2022.10 and Twitter Doomed | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/06/sparky-2022-10/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/06/sparky-2022-10/
[16:12]	TR Bot	 Links 06/10/2022: Sparky 2022.10 and Twitter Doomed | Techrights
[16:13]	TR News	 (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/Programming_Leftovers.gmi 
[16:13]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
[16:15]	TR News	 (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/today_s_leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/today_s_leftovers.gmi 
[16:15]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's leftovers
[16:17]	TR News	How to make your APIs more discoverable | Red Hat Developer https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/10/06/how-make-your-apis-more-discoverable Source: XDA | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/10/06/how-make-your-apis-more-discoverable
[16:17]	TR Bot	 How to make your APIs more discoverable | Red Hat Developer
[16:17]	TR News	How Kubernetes improves developer agility | Red Hat Developer https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/10/06/kubernetes-improves-developer-agility Source: ICBM | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/10/06/kubernetes-improves-developer-agility
[16:17]	TR Bot	 How Kubernetes improves developer agility | Red Hat Developer
[16:18]	TR News	Fedora Hatch Cork 2022 - Fedora Community Blog https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-hatch-cork-2022/ Source: Fedora | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-hatch-cork-2022/
[16:18]	TR Bot	 Fedora Hatch Cork 2022 Fedora Community Blog
[16:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-05.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[16:32]	TR News	NHS: After Worst Summer Ever We Release Data Weekly, Not Daily Anymore (and Scotland Stops Reporting). Now: Cannot Even Release Every Week! https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/06/late-nhs/
[16:32]	TR Bot	Blog Archive NHS: After Worst Summer Ever We Release Data Weekly, Not Daily Anymore (and Scotland Stops Reporting). Now: Cannot Even Release Every Week!
[16:36]	TR News	"the older generation of workers who thought they should retire early because the future was so uncertain and accepting a complete shift to digital felt daunting." https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/10/career-rut-advice
[16:36]	TR Bot	 8 ways to get out of a career rut | The Enterprisers Project
[16:37]	TR News	Why CSI drivers are essential in Kubernetes storage | Red Hat Developer https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/10/06/csi-drivers-essential-kubernetes-storage Source: ICBM | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/10/06/csi-drivers-essential-kubernetes-storage
[16:37]	TR Bot	 Why CSI drivers are essential in Kubernetes storage | Red Hat Developer
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[16:37]	TR News	A developers guide to Kubernetes storage concepts | Red Hat Developer https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/10/06/kubernetes-storage-concepts Source: ICBM | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/10/06/kubernetes-storage-concepts
[16:37]	TR Bot	 A developers guide to Kubernetes storage concepts | Red Hat Developer
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[16:39]	TR News	SpellBinding: ABCFKTO Wordo: PRIME gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-10-06.gmi
[16:41]	TR News	COVID-19: Current symptoms and data https://yewtu.be/embed/154oJ20Omq8?t=0
[16:41]	TR Bot	 Current symptoms and data - Invidious
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[16:49]	starstreak	my hooves! my hooves!
[16:54]	TR News	 (NEW): Fedora / Red Hat / IBM Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/Fedora_Red_Hat_IBM_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/Fedora_Red_Hat_IBM_Leftovers.gmi 
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[17:10]	AdmFubar	https://www.newyorker.com/tech/annals-of-technology/the-thorny-problem-of-keeping-the-internets-time
[17:10]	TR Bot	 The Thorny Problem of Keeping the Internets Time | The New Yorker
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[17:16]	AdmFubar	so business as usual???    https://www.theregister.com/2022/10/06/windows_11_22h2/
[17:16]	TR Bot	 Microsoft warns admins: Windows 11 22H2 breaks provisioning The Register
[17:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-05.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[17:22]	TR News	New NHS Data: COVID-19 Hospitalisations at Start of October 2022 Are 3+ Times Worse Than in 2020 and Twice as Bad as Last Year https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/06/covid-19-hospitalisations-october/
[17:22]	TR Bot	Blog Archive New NHS Data: COVID-19 Hospitalisations at Start of October 2022 Are 3+ Times Worse Than in 2020 and Twice as Bad as Last Year
[17:30]	TR News	 (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/Android_Leftovers.1.gmi 
[17:30]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Android Leftovers
[17:38]	TR News	They has an entire week to prepare for this! https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/06/late-nhs/
[17:38]	TR News	"Based on 2021 infections (data), we still or currently have about 4,000 more people scarred with Long COVID every day. Recovery isnt enough to avoid long-term health problems." https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/06/covid-19-hospitalisations-october/
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[18:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-05.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[18:31]		*starstreak inhales from her vape and exhales a big cloud of smoke
[18:31]	starstreak	toasty
[18:47]	schestowitz[TR]	??
[18:50]	starstreak	i started vaping nicotine juice instead of smoking
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[19:14]	TR News	Free Software is the Best Thing You Can Buy (or Maybe the Only Thing You Can Truly Buy) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/06/when-buying-is-not-owning/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/06/when-buying-is-not-owning/
[19:14]	TR Bot	 Free Software is the Best Thing You Can Buy (or Maybe the Only Thing You Can Truly Buy) | Techrights
[19:17]	techuser	stop
[19:17]	techuser	some people turn free software into paid scam
[19:18]	techuser	e.g. Krita on Steam, HexChat on Microsoft Store
[19:18]	techuser	someone who doesn't know it is free elsewhere and don't bother to learn, will pay for it
[19:18]	techuser	I consider such people to be dishonest
[19:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-05.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[19:20]	techuser	paying for software is waste of money
[19:20]	techuser	GCompris Windows build even had some DRM
[19:22]	starstreak	techuser, https://i.imgur.com/xzsWBt1.jpg
[19:22]	starstreak	<techuser> e.g. Krita on Steam, HexChat on Microsoft Store
[19:22]	starstreak	that seems ironic
[19:22]	starstreak	hexchat was born because xchat started selling a windows version
[19:22]	techuser	we can't win when we have greedy devilopers
[19:23]	starstreak	looks like i gotta stop using hexchat
[19:23]	techuser	who don't care if it is free software or paid
[19:23]	techuser	they still provide .exe for download
[19:23]	techuser	on Microsoft Store, they say the people who don't want to pay can click "download free trial"
[19:23]	starstreak	its packaged with arch linux
[19:24]	techuser	except people don't except "free trial" to be fully functional version
[19:24]	starstreak	but how can i support a project that has a paid windows version
[19:24]	techuser	so if they are regular people who don't bother reading a lot of stuff, they will just click "buy". It is a scam.
[19:25]	techuser	I used to be on another IRC network. I don't know any other "user-friendly" IRC clients, so I had to advertise HexChat. So here is what my manual said:
[19:25]	starstreak	there is konversation
[19:25]	starstreak	do i want to run another kde app though
[19:25]	techuser	> If you are using Windows, go to https://hexchat.github.io/downloads.html and download the version for your architecture.
[19:25]	TR Bot	 Downloads HexChat
[19:25]	techuser	Do not use the Microsoft Store download link, it has misleading price set, so users who don't pay much attention and have a payment method attached can accidentally pay for it.
[19:26]	starstreak	i don't use windows, i use arch linucks btw
[19:26]	techuser	I was targeting Windows users primarily
[19:26]	starstreak	oh ok, fair enough
[19:27]	starstreak	https://konversation.kde.org/
[19:27]	TR Bot	 Konversation
[19:28]	starstreak	konversation pretty much behaves exactly like hexchat
[19:29]	techuser	how about resource usage?
[19:30]	starstreak	well, hexchat is using 44MB of ram right now
[19:30]	starstreak	i dont know about konversation
[19:30]	techuser	Luis64_gamer realized HexChat crashes for him when he runs heavy stuff
[19:30]	techuser	I told him about XChat-SE which works. But it turned out it is a GPL violation, and I couldn't contact the developer because technical difficulties.
[19:31]	starstreak	macOS doesn't have a lot of options either
[19:31]	starstreak	you could connect to irc through adium, you could use irssi and weechat (thanks to homebrew), and there was no hexchat
[19:31]	starstreak	there was some janky version of xchat that was free on the app store
[19:34]	techuser	is gpl-violations abandoned? They killed their mailing lists and there are no signs it is still alive
[19:34]	starstreak	sounds abandoned
[19:37]	techuser	I wonder if they participate in 32-bit discrimination
[19:38]	techuser	the links from the downloads page are 64-bit. No 32-bit.
[19:39]	starstreak	i used 16-bit mIRC with windows 3.11, it was fun getting that to work in dosbox-x
[19:39]	techuser	going one directory up says 404
[19:39]	techuser	I will try replacing win64 with win32
[19:40]	starstreak	you're using windows?
[19:40]	techuser	Luis64_gamer does
[19:40]	starstreak	why 32-bit, 64-bit goes back 20 years
[19:40]	techuser	iirc he is running a 64-bit Windows version, but it is still a concern
[19:41]	techuser	that stuff is worsening all the time, calling this "progress"
[19:41]	techuser	fuck the fake progress
[19:41]	starstreak	he could probably run the latest mIRC
[19:41]	techuser	stupid devilopers not knowing how to write code or even paid to write bad code
[19:41]	techuser	he runs XChat SE
[19:41]	techuser	which is a GPL violation
[19:42]	techuser	and I couldn't contact the author because the IRC server blocks Tor, and the email address doesn't accept my email, saying I'm a Tor node, even though I'm not
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[19:49]	TR News	Ubuntu Pro-Microsoft and It Moreover Promotes Proprietary Garbage Thats Bad for Security and Performance | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/06/ubuntu-pro-proprietary-garbage/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/06/ubuntu-pro-proprietary-garbage/
[19:49]	TR Bot	 Ubuntu Pro-Microsoft and It Moreover Promotes Proprietary Garbage Thats Bad for Security and Performance | Techrights
[19:55]	TR News	 (NEW): Today in Techrights http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/Today_in_Techrights.gmi 
[19:55]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Today in Techrights
● Oct 06
[20:05]	TR News	[Meme] From Humanity for Others to... | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/06/ubuntu-working-for-bill/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/06/ubuntu-working-for-bill/
[20:05]	TR Bot	 [Meme] From Humanity for Others to | Techrights
[20:10]	MinceR	"'Ubuntu' is an ancient African word meaning 'I can't configure Slackware'"
[20:11]	starstreak	exactly
[20:12]	starstreak	why don't you run slackware instead of some toy debian fork?
[20:12]	starstreak	slackware still uses lilo, xfree86 and whatever init system was popular in the 90s
[20:13]	MinceR	i used to run slackware, had to run -current because 14.2 didn't support my hardware, then an upgrade broke it
[20:13]	MinceR	and bedrock doesn't support slackware
[20:13]	MinceR	i doubt it uses xfree86
[20:13]	starstreak	lol i was half joking
[20:14]	TR News	The Great Replacement of Microsoft Windows Will Happen First in Developing Nations (PC Sales Plunged There, Machines Recycled With GNU/Linux) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/06/replacement-of-windows/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/06/replacement-of-windows/
[20:14]	TR Bot	 The Great Replacement of Microsoft Windows Will Happen First in Developing Nations (PC Sales Plunged There, Machines Recycled With GNU/Linux) | Techrights
[20:18]	TR News	Canonical works for Bill to pay the bills http://techrights.org/2022/10/06/ubuntu-working-for-bill/
[20:19]	TR News	Unsafe, bloated, proprietary Windows programs of Microsoft are used to advertise Ubuntu Pro, so Canonical has clearly lost the plot http://techrights.org/2022/10/06/ubuntu-pro-proprietary-garbage/
[20:19]	TR News	eople who value their own control over their own computers dont buy proprietary stuff; instead they adopt Free software http://techrights.org/2022/10/06/when-buying-is-not-owning/
[20:19]	TR Bot	 Free Software is the Best Thing You Can Buy (or Maybe the Only Thing You Can Truly Buy) | Techrights
[20:19]	TR News	The market share of Windows has fallen to about 27% overall while GNU/Linux reaches all-time highs; we explain why that may be http://techrights.org/2022/10/06/replacement-of-windows/
[20:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-05.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[20:20]	TR News	Connecting spies and bugs https://www.maketecheasier.com/matter-official-smart-home-devices/
[20:20]	TR Bot	 Matter 1.0 Is Official: Smart Home Devices Will Be Unifed - Make Tech Easier
[20:21]	TR News	"In this video, I am going to show an overview of Parrot 5.1 Security Edition and some of the applications pre-installed." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=DYPGMBC5RgA
[20:21]	TR Bot	 Parrot 5.1 Security Edition overview | designed for Penetration Testing and Red Team operations. - Invidious
[20:22]	TR News	Stupid clickbait https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Wu0CxdflECY
[20:22]	TR Bot	 STOP! Don't Name That File Without First Watching This Video. - Invidious
[20:24]	TR News	Obliteration is a brand new PS4 Emulator for PC (Windows/Linux) https://www.dsogaming.com/news/obliteration-is-a-brand-new-ps4-emulator-for-pc-windows-linux/ Source: DSOG | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.dsogaming.com/news/obliteration-is-a-brand-new-ps4-emulator-for-pc-windows-linux/
[20:24]	TR Bot	 Obliteration is a brand new PS4 Emulator for PC (Windows/Linux)
[20:26]	TR News	Godot Engine - Announcing the Godot 2022 showreels! https://godotengine.org/article/announcing-godot-2022-showreels Source: Godot Engine | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//godotengine.org/article/announcing-godot-2022-showreels
[20:26]	TR Bot	 Godot Engine - Announcing the Godot 2022 showreels!
[20:26]	TR News	Access Now applauds U.S. Blueprint for HEY HI Bill of Rights, but more safeguards needed - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/u-s-blueprint-for-ai-bill-of-rights/ Source: AccessNow | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.accessnow.org/u-s-blueprint-for-ai-bill-of-rights/
[20:26]	TR Bot	 Access Now applauds U.S. Blueprint for AI Bill of Rights, but more safeguards needed - Access Now
[20:32]	TR News	Akademy 2022 the BoFs - Jonathan Esk-Riddells Diary http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/01/Akademy_2022_Timetable_Videos_and_More.shtml
[20:32]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Akademy 2022 Timetable, Videos, and More (UPDATEDx2)
[20:32]	TR News	What a mess gopher://uberspace.net:70/0/~defanor/phlog/what-a-mess.rst "imagine that 2020 is actually the best year of the following decade".
[20:34]	TR News	Kids and the Internet gemini://altesq.net/~evenfire/posts/kids-and-the-internet.gmi
[20:34]	TR News	A NixOS kiosk gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/nixos-kiosk.gmi
[20:35]	TR News	Konsole Kommands gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1145
[20:36]	TR News	 (UPDATEDx2): Akademy 2022 Timetable, Videos, and More (UPDATEDx2) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/01/Akademy_2022_Timetable_Videos_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/01/Akademy_2022_Timetable_Videos_and_More.gmi 
[20:46]	TR News	Latest COVID-19 Data: Back to 10,000 Patients in English Hospitals (Double What It Was Last Year, 3+ Times Worse Than 2020) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/06/covid-19-september-october-hospital/
[20:46]	TR Bot	Blog Archive Latest COVID-19 Data: Back to 10,000 Patients in English Hospitals (Double What It Was Last Year, 3+ Times Worse Than 2020)
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[21:00]	TR News	Conditioning people to work from home (if they can) is good for the environment and lowers energy consumption. Fuel fuels war.
[21:02]	TR News	KDE neon 20221006 is out https://neon.kde.org/
[21:02]	TR Bot	 KDE neon
[21:03]	TR News	SmartOS 20221006 is also out. Based on: Solaris. https://www.tritondatacenter.com/smartos
[21:03]	TR Bot	 SmartOS | Joyent
[21:09]	schestowitz[TR]	https://www.mancity.com/citytv/mens/training-6-october-erling-haaland-gets-nutmegged-63800665
[21:09]	TR Bot	 Training: Warm-down after Copenhagen
[21:14]	psydruid	How many times did he mention AMD Cloud in that advertisement?
[21:15]	TR News	"Successful exploitation of this vulnerability could allow a remote attacker to cause a denial-of-service condition to the affected product." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-279-02
[21:15]	TR Bot	 HIWIN Robot System Software (HRSS) | CISA
[21:15]	schestowitz[TR]	psydroid2: never mind that, see the images
[21:15]	schestowitz[TR]	it's like a brochure
[21:16]	schestowitz[TR]	not like slide decks he takes from events tyo make 'articles'
[21:16]	schestowitz[TR]	this one is like a deck of ads
[21:16]	schestowitz[TR]	what makes it worse is that you see how he gets paid for it and who by
[21:18]	TR News	Seemingly a spammy site promoting FUD and stigma https://www.opensourceforu.com/2022/10/security-issues-with-open-source-in-todays-world/
[21:18]	TR Bot	 Security Issues With Open Source In Today's World
[21:19]	TR News	GNU MPFR version 4.1.1-rc1 (testing) released on 6 October 2022 https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Mpfr https://www.mpfr.org/
[21:19]	TR Bot	 Mpfr - Free Software Directory
[21:19]	TR Bot	 The GNU MPFR Library
[21:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-05.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[21:20]	TR News	buntu Research and Evaluation | Founded: 2017 https://biztimes.com/ubuntu-research-and-evaluation/
[21:20]	TR Bot	 Ubuntu Research and Evaluation
[21:24]	TR News	How to stock dungeons gemini://idiomdrottning.org/dungeon-stocking
[21:25]	TR News	Nibble Stew: Using cppfront with Meson https://nibblestew.blogspot.com/2022/10/using-cppfront-with-meson.html Source: Jussi Pakkanen | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//nibblestew.blogspot.com/2022/10/using-cppfront-with-meson.html
[21:25]	TR Bot	 Nibble Stew: Using cppfront with Meson
[21:25]	TR News	Wireshark 4.0 Released as Worlds Most Popular Network Protocol Analyzer - 9to5Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/05/Wireshark_4_0_0_Released.shtml
[21:25]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Wireshark 4.0.0 Released (UPDATED)
[21:27]	TR News	One of the world's most popular programming languages is coming to Linux | TechRadar <p class="dropcap-first"> <a class="readon" title="TechRadar" href="https://www.techradar.com/news/one-of-the-worlds-most-popular-programming-languages-is-coming-to-linux">Read on</a>
[21:27]	TR Bot	of the world's most popular programming languages is coming to Linux | TechRadar
[21:28]	TR News	Build a personal link portfolio using this Open-source app: LittleLink https://medevel.com/littlelinks/ Source: Medevel | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//medevel.com/littlelinks/
[21:28]	TR Bot	 Build a personal link portfolio using this Open-source app: LittleLink
[21:31]	TR News	 (NEW): PostgreSQL 15 RC 2 Released! http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/PostgreSQL_15_RC_2_Released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/PostgreSQL_15_RC_2_Released.gmi 
[21:31]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines PostgreSQL 15 RC 2 Released!
[21:34]	TR News	"A remote attacker could exploitsomeof these vulnerabilities to take control of an affected system." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/current-activity/2022/10/06/cisco-releases-security-updates-multiple-products
[21:34]	TR Bot	 Cisco Releases Security Updates for Multiple Products | CISA
[21:35]	TR News	Very shallow marketing spam https://containerjournal.com/features/veracode-adds-container-support-to-security-tool-for-developers/
[21:35]	TR Bot	 Veracode Adds Container Support to Security Tool for Developers - Container Journal
[21:37]	TR News	Proprietary software: 9.9 out of 10 in severity. Rockwell Automation FactoryTalk VantagePoint https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-279-01
[21:37]	TR Bot	 Rockwell Automation FactoryTalk VantagePoint | CISA
[21:39]	TR News	"Supply chain" has become a modern FUD term; they intentionally ignore the risk that is back doors (e.g. NSA) and China manufacturing a lot of boards at a whim https://containerjournal.com/features/container-images-the-next-software-supply-chain-concern/
[21:39]	TR Bot	 Container Images: The Next Software Supply Chain Concern? - Container Journal
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[21:40]	TR News	 (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/today_s_howtos.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/today_s_howtos.2.gmi 
[21:40]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's howtos
[21:41]	TR News	Patients with COVID-19 in hospital as of 05-10-2022: 9,631. Patients with COVID-19 in hospital as of 05-10-2021: 5,009. Patients with COVID-19 in hospital as of 05-10-2020: 2,903. https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/06/covid-19-september-october-hospital/
[21:41]	TR Bot	Blog Archive Latest COVID-19 Data: Back to 10,000 Patients in English Hospitals (Double What It Was Last Year, 3+ Times Worse Than 2020)
[21:43]	MinceR	(cat) https://ircz.de/p/22100333
[21:43]	TR Bot	 IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.imgur.com/WDihoiv.png>.
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[21:52]	highest_cubist_thrills	YaRET - Turns CDs into Encoded music, Yummy!
[21:52]	highest_cubist_thrills	if jung were still around, id ask him which archetype is the one thats capable of thinking non-edible things are "yummy"
[21:53]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me imagines the vast bulk of binary data is either bland or extremely caustic/acidic (yes those are technically opposites, but either way your tongue will burn)
[21:55]	highest_cubist_thrills	im not so literal about everything-- i still use "hot" to describe someone attractive
[21:55]	highest_cubist_thrills	but yummy software? :/
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[21:57]	schestowitz[TR]	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=4HU5jnRfsa4
[21:57]	TR Bot	 OMONIA - MAN UNITED | NH CAO THAY NGI, RONALDO QU EN | HIGHLIGHTS EUROPA LEAGUE - Invidious
[21:57]	highest_cubist_thrills	i blame dualism. gnome makes me throw up in my mouth. if it can be gross, i guess it can be the opposite :|
[21:58]	schestowitz[TR]	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=qUmHeMRC5FI
[21:58]	TR Bot	 Erik Ten Hag interview | Omonia Nicosia 2-3 Manchester United - Invidious
[21:59]	highest_cubist_thrills	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=VECljlG--gE
[21:59]	TR Bot	 Yummy, Yummy, Yummy - Invidious
● Oct 06
[22:00]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me continues the seti-like search for libre life in the universe
[22:01]	highest_cubist_thrills	ive been scanning the fsd for nearly a year
[22:01]	highest_cubist_thrills	it provides a high-resolution image, but not a good outlook
[22:02]	MinceR	yummy RAM
[22:02]	highest_cubist_thrills	im looking forward to techrights covering the imaginary github exodus with real examples of mainstream software (with names)
[22:02]	TR News	git worktrees https://jmtd.net/log/worktrees/ Source: Jonathan Dowland | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//jmtd.net/log/worktrees/
[22:02]	TR Bot	 jmtd log git worktrees
[22:03]	highest_cubist_thrills	especially since i have more data on this than anyone else (except github itself)
[22:03]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean you can say gnome for example, freedesktop
[22:03]	highest_cubist_thrills	however gnome is still microsoft, just not microsoft github
[22:03]	highest_cubist_thrills	freedesktop is ibm
[22:03]	highest_cubist_thrills	so its true theyre not on github, but theyre still controlled by microsoft and ibm
[22:04]	highest_cubist_thrills	i gnow a few gitlab-based projects that matter
[22:04]	highest_cubist_thrills	in fact, given this research i probably have a more complete list of them than roy does
[22:04]	highest_cubist_thrills	somehow im not particularly impressed-- i mean we both know about the 200,000-- credit where credit is due
[22:05]	highest_cubist_thrills	and thats great. but again, that was 4 years ago
[22:05]	MinceR	xonotic is on gitlab
[22:05]	highest_cubist_thrills	there is no exodus.
[22:05]	highest_cubist_thrills	xonotic is on gitlab <- let me look it up
[22:05]	highest_cubist_thrills	yeah xonotic is already on my list
[22:06]	highest_cubist_thrills	but i bet you they didnt move there recently
[22:06]	highest_cubist_thrills	and when i say theres no exodus, i mean since the first month more or less
[22:06]	highest_cubist_thrills	there was a starter-exodus. we all know about that
[22:07]	TR News	ODROID-Go Ultra handheld game console is now available for $111 (Amlogic S922X chip and Ubuntu Linux OS) - Liliputing http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/05/Hardkernel_s_ODROID_GO_ULTRA_Packs_a_Six_Core_CPU_for_Speedy_On.shtml
[22:07]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Hardkernel's ODROID-GO ULTRA Packs a Six-Core CPU for Speedy On-the-Go Retro Gaming (UPDATED)
[22:07]	highest_cubist_thrills	and i know there will be people that move too
[22:07]	highest_cubist_thrills	a trickle
[22:07]	highest_cubist_thrills	and if a trickle becomes more than that, in time, thats great
[22:07]	MinceR	"the world needs some culling, blood needs to trickle!"
[22:07]	highest_cubist_thrills	its still been 4 years without really even a trickle.
[22:07]	highest_cubist_thrills	we dont need that much blood
[22:08]	highest_cubist_thrills	percentage wise, its a drop in the bucket
[22:08]	highest_cubist_thrills	all the poison is at the top
[22:08]	highest_cubist_thrills	it just needs to be skimmed off
[22:08]	TR News	Seems to be more sponsored webspam, i.e. the same https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/10/06/the-art-of-system-design-as-hpc-and-ai-applications-diverge/
[22:08]	highest_cubist_thrills	now, we have a high percentage of idiots, thats true
[22:08]	TR Bot	 The Art Of System Design As HPC And AI Applications Diverge
[22:08]	highest_cubist_thrills	but to keep them at that level of stupid, they have to be handled-- constantly-- by the tiny pecentage of people that are actually evil
[22:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	and its true that a lot of evil happens just because "good people do nothing"
[22:09]	TR News	Distro Walk Rocky Linux - Linux Magazine https://www.linux-magazine.com/Issues/2022/264/Rocky-Linux Source: Linux Magazine | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.linux-magazine.com/Issues/2022/264/Rocky-Linux
[22:09]	TR Bot	 Distro Walk Rocky Linux Linux Magazine
[22:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	but the reason they do nothing is because theyre constantly conditioned to be willfully stupid
[22:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	if you shut that off, evolution will happen. it will.
[22:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	they wouldnt waste the effort constantly downgrading people if it didnt require a constant effort.
[22:10]	TR News	ICBM Red Hat is shilling Microsoft and SAP at the same time. The company lacks principles and promotes enemies of GNU/Linux. https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/managing-sap-workloads-automation-microsoft-azure
[22:10]	TR Bot	 Managing SAP workloads with automation on Microsoft Azure
[22:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	i dont mean to make it sound simpler than it is
[22:11]	TR News	New vendor lock-in https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/succeeding-new-technology-four-barriers-overcome
[22:11]	TR Bot	 Succeeding with new technology: four barriers to overcome
[22:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	i wasnt talking about simple. i was only saying not that much blood is needed.
[22:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	per se. of course... the thing about blood is that it gets spent to get shed, so
[22:12]	MinceR	i was just quoting from Zladko Vladcik
[22:12]	highest_cubist_thrills	its "not much" times whatever factor
[22:12]	TR News	IBM emeritus Irving Wladawsky-Berger: Human Capital: The Value of Work Experience and Continuous Learning https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2022/10/work-experience-and-human-capital.html Source: IBM Old Timer | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2022/10/work-experience-and-human-capital.html
[22:12]	TR Bot	 Irving Wladawsky-Berger: Human Capital: The Value of Work Experience and Continuous Learning
[22:12]	highest_cubist_thrills	i was just quoting from Zladko Vladcik <- i figured you were quoting a video game or something :)
[22:12]	MinceR	:)
[22:12]	highest_cubist_thrills	then again, the people in the news today...
[22:13]	highest_cubist_thrills	its like poes law took over reality
[22:14]	highest_cubist_thrills	"we were supposed to contain it with the internet!"
[22:14]	highest_cubist_thrills	"looks like it escaped"
[22:14]	MinceR	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxxhAS16vB0
[22:14]	TR Bot	https://y.com.sb/watch?v=FxxhAS16vB0
[22:14]	TR Bot	y.com.sb | I Am The Antipope Zlad! - Invidious
[22:14]	TR News	SuperTuxKart version 1.3 SFS created https://bkhome.org/news/202210/supertuxkart-version-13-sfs-created.html Source: Barry Kauler | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//bkhome.org/news/202210/supertuxkart-version-13-sfs-created.html
[22:14]	TR Bot	 SuperTuxKart version 1.3 SFS created
[22:15]	TR News	 (NEW): EndeavourOS Is an Awesome Distro But Not for Everyone http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/EndeavourOS_Is_an_Awesome_Distro_But_Not_for_Everyone.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/EndeavourOS_Is_an_Awesome_Distro_But_Not_for_Everyone.gmi 
[22:15]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines EndeavourOS Is an Awesome Distro But Not for Everyone
[22:18]	TR News	Not even a container can contain such a data-leaking malware https://bkhome.org/news/202210/chrome-running-in-container-as-user-spot.html
[22:18]	TR Bot	 Chrome running in container as user spot
[22:18]	highest_cubist_thrills	i have a fun idea for a project
[22:18]	highest_cubist_thrills	spider quilt
[22:19]	highest_cubist_thrills	what you do is you take a big net-- with holes about the size of a quilt patch
[22:19]	highest_cubist_thrills	and you hang it up somewhere with lots of spiders
[22:19]	highest_cubist_thrills	so spiders weave webs in the squares
[22:19]	MinceR	:D
[22:19]	highest_cubist_thrills	and you see how many get filled
[22:19]	highest_cubist_thrills	spider quilt
[22:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-05.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[22:20]	highest_cubist_thrills	of course there will be bugs in some of the patches
[22:20]	highest_cubist_thrills	but thats no worse than systemd
[22:20]	MinceR	i was hoping for a higher standard of quality than "no worse than systemd"
[22:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	i didnt say that just to setup a punchline about systemd-- thats simply the direction it took on its own
[22:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	i was hoping for a higher standard of quality than "no worse than systemd" <- try and tell that to debian
[22:21]	frog	MinceR:  meanwhile, i am thinking hard, if and how to proceed with Oasis Linux
[22:21]	MinceR	\_()_/
[22:21]	frog	https://github.com/oasislinux/oasis
[22:21]	TR Bot	- oasislinux/oasis: a small statically-linked linux system
[22:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	you could try removing the bugs from the patches
[22:21]	frog	there is some blockers and problems i don't know how to cope with anymore
[22:22]	highest_cubist_thrills	but theyre sort of integrated-- kind of like systemd :)
[22:22]	MinceR	what about the spiders?
[22:22]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean theyll probably all go work for microsoft at some point
[22:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	but the thing is, this is a visual project
[22:23]	MinceR	:(
[22:23]	frog	and too, some blockers with tcc-toolchain remain, which i am not willing to hack on a gentoo/gnu based development host anymore
[22:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	its not liks a quilt made out of spider webs is going to be useful for anything
[22:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	(kind of like...)
[22:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	it would just be cool to see the spiders fill up the squares
[22:23]	frog	because, for example, it is some problems with GNU-buildsystem itself
[22:23]	MinceR	the spiders might not like their neighbors very much
[22:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	you could totally make a synthetic version based on the real one
[22:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	im sure it would look cool
[22:24]	TR News	FOSSA perpetuating anti-FOSS talking points https://fossa.com/blog/practical-guide-slsa-framework/
[22:24]	TR Bot	Practical Guide to the SLSA Framework - FOSSA
[22:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	they could have this at the museum of natural science even
[22:24]	frog	to test tcc-toolchain with amd64, i need to roll-back perl-5.8, however i cross-compile for amd64, and perl-5.8 cross-compilation is broken
[22:24]	frog	aaarrrrrrrrrrgh
[22:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	the spider quilt exhibit
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[22:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	ideally youd have different kinds of spiders so they werent all the same kind of web
[22:24]	frog	some more issues, surrounding kernel build, musl-libc build, none of which i am willing to hack based on Gentoo/GNU development host
[22:25]	highest_cubist_thrills	and yeah some of them would probably eat each other
[22:25]	highest_cubist_thrills	and the peta would be all pissy about it
[22:25]	frog	too, in parallel, moving to Oasis is blocked, by components over there which i don't accept, again related to kernel, libc and toolchain
[22:25]	MinceR	they might also refuse to hang around to fill some of the cells
[22:25]	highest_cubist_thrills	its fine to have spiders eating each other in the wild
[22:25]	TR News	LibreOffice project and community recap: September 2022 https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2022/10/06/libreoffice-project-and-community-recap-september-2022/
[22:25]	TR Bot	 LibreOffice project and community recap: September 2022 - The Document Foundation Blog
[22:25]	highest_cubist_thrills	but putting them in a museum is like some kind of barbaric arachnid thunderdome
[22:25]	frog	so, i got a bunch of blockers, and too the transition to oasis is troublesome
[22:25]	frog	twisted
[22:26]	MinceR	what about putting them in a zoo instead
[22:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	 they might also refuse to hang around to fill some of the cells <- i figured this from the start of this silly idea
[22:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	it would be interesting to see them 
[22:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	to see how many got filled
[22:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	what about putting them in a zoo instead <- yeah im not picky about a venue
[22:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	whatever makes the most sense is fine
[22:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	itll probably end up on github anyway
[22:27]	highest_cubist_thrills	https://github.com/openspiderquilt/openspiderquilt
[22:27]	TR Bot	( status 404 @ https://github.com/openspiderquilt/openspiderquilt )
[22:27]	TR News	Random words at the end of GSoC https://blog.xuche.ml/post/random-words-at-the-end-of-gsoc/
[22:27]	TR Bot	 Random words at the end of GSoC :: Shidao's blog
[22:28]	TR News	"Qt for MCUs 2.2.2 has been released and is available for download. As a patch release, Qt for MCUs 2.2.2 provides bug fixes and other improvements, and maintains source compatibility with Qt for MCUs 2.2.x. It does not add any new functionality." https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-for-mcus-2.2.2-released
[22:28]	TR Bot	 Qt for MCUs 2.2.2 Released
[22:30]	highest_cubist_thrills	another thing you could do is put squares held taut by support threads at each corner
[22:30]	TR News	Finding bugs with sanitizers [LWN] https://lwn.net/Articles/909245/ Source: LWN | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lwn.net/Articles/909245/
[22:30]	highest_cubist_thrills	in various places (around the world even)
[22:30]	TR Bot	bugs with sanitizers [LWN.net]
[22:31]	highest_cubist_thrills	then find some way to preserve the web-- make it more durable while retaining its structure
[22:31]	highest_cubist_thrills	some kind of spray coating, idk
[22:31]	highest_cubist_thrills	then put the squares together and stick that in a museum
[22:31]	highest_cubist_thrills	i like the organic quality of the first iteration of the idea
[22:31]	highest_cubist_thrills	but if anyone ever does this theyll make their own decisions about it
[22:32]	highest_cubist_thrills	i think it would be really cool looking
[22:33]	MinceR	perhaps a spray with monomers of PMMA
[22:33]	TR News	Progress for unprivileged containers [LWN] https://lwn.net/Articles/909627/ Source: LWN | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lwn.net/Articles/909627/
[22:33]	TR Bot	for unprivileged containers [LWN.net]
[22:33]	highest_cubist_thrills	i think the rule is it has to have carbon nanotubes
[22:33]	highest_cubist_thrills	if it doesnt have carbon nanotubes its basically your grandmothers kevlar, how boring
[22:34]	MinceR	lol
[22:35]	MinceR	"And another group offended. Guess I'm just not a people person. Good thing I have Kevlar. ...Wait, do I have Kevlar?"
[22:35]	highest_cubist_thrills	"if it doesnt have carbon nanotubes its basically your grandmothers kevlar"-- i didnt write this, i stole it from one of eric raymonds magazines
[22:35]	highest_cubist_thrills	paper magazines, not the other kind
[22:36]	MinceR	:>
[22:36]	TR News	 (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/Security_Leftovers.gmi 
[22:36]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Security Leftovers
[22:38]	highest_cubist_thrills	"im your worst nightmare"-- eric raymonds grandmother, who isnt fucking around
[22:39]	TR News	 (NEW): LWN Articles on Linux (Outside Paywall Today) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/LWN_Articles_on_Linux_Outside_Paywall_Today.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/LWN_Articles_on_Linux_Outside_Paywall_Today.gmi 
[22:39]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines LWN Articles on Linux (Outside Paywall Today)
[22:39]	highest_cubist_thrills	she once bitchslapped chuck norris
[22:39]	highest_cubist_thrills	he apologised
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[22:42]	TR News	Production caught up with demand (so is demand low? Or production fast?) https://yewtu.be/watch?v=X93drtNlJsk
[22:42]	TR Bot	 THE STEAM DECK RESERVATION QUEUE IS HISTORY! - Invidious
[22:42]	TR News	Debian Voted Yes On Non Free Firmware!! - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=yhUHi4F8ln8 | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/yhUHi4F8ln8
[22:42]	TR Bot	 Debian Voted Yes On Non Free Firmware!! - Invidious
[22:43]	TR News	"Beacon Pines is a cute, suspenseful, visual novel with interesting storytelling devices, developed by Hiding Spot and published by Fellow Traveler. It runs great on Linux with Proton." https://boilingsteam.com/beacon-pines-cute-visual-novel-linux-review/
[22:43]	TR Bot	 Beacon Pines - Cute visual novel with inventive storytelling devices. - Boiling Steam
[22:44]	TR News	10 Fun Free and Open Source Turn-Based Strategy Games - Part 2 - LinuxLinks https://www.linuxlinks.com/free-open-source-turn-based-strategy-games-part2/ Source: Linux Links | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.linuxlinks.com/free-open-source-turn-based-strategy-games-part2/
[22:44]	TR Bot	Fun Free and Open Source Turn-Based Strategy Games - Part 2 - LinuxLinks
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[22:47]	TR News	Your seven sources of dungeon maps gemini://idiomdrottning.org/sources-of-dungeon-maps
[22:47]	TR News	Diagram Dungeons gemini://idiomdrottning.org/diagram-dungeons
[22:48]	TR News	 (NEW): Games: Obliteration, Godot, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/Games_Obliteration_Godot_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/Games_Obliteration_Godot_and_More.gmi 
[22:48]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Games: Obliteration, Godot, and More
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[22:54]	TR News	 (NEW): Videos: Debian, Steam, Parrot, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/Videos_Debian_Steam_Parrot_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/Videos_Debian_Steam_Parrot_and_More.gmi 
[22:54]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Videos: Debian, Steam, Parrot, and More
[22:57]	TR News	GAFAM listening device into the living room https://www.maketecheasier.com/fire-tv-cube-streaming-media-player-deals/
[22:57]	TR Bot	 Get a Fire TV Cube Streaming Media Device for Half Off - Make Tech Easier
[22:57]	TR News	 (NEW): risiOS: A Fedora-Based Linux Distro That Holds Your Hand http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/risiOS_A_Fedora_Based_Linux_Distro_That_Holds_Your_Hand.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/risiOS_A_Fedora_Based_Linux_Distro_That_Holds_Your_Hand.gmi 
[22:57]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines risiOS: A Fedora-Based Linux Distro That Holds Your Hand
[22:57]	MinceR	holds your hand and drags you down into hell
[22:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 21.60 k/sec., IPFS upstream 90.38 average k/sec., average swarm size 116.18
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● Oct 06
[23:00]	TR News	Phoronix has fed Microsoft-connected sites with that FUD about "LINUX WILL DESTROY YOUR LAPTOP" (the original mailing list message says it is rare)
[23:00]	highest_cubist_thrills	<MinceR> holds your hand and drags you down into hell <- "what does ibm and microsoft do to court developer talent?"
[23:01]	highest_cubist_thrills	hi, it looks like youre trying to sell out! can i help?"
[23:01]	TR News	Kernel 5.19.12 is barely even used by anybody except the cutting-edge adventurists
[23:01]	highest_cubist_thrills	microsoft had clippy
[23:01]	XRevan86	> cutting-edge adventurists
[23:01]	XRevan86	> $ uname -r
[23:01]	XRevan86	> 6.0.0-1-default
[23:01]	highest_cubist_thrills	disney has mickey
[23:01]	highest_cubist_thrills	apple had steve jobs
[23:02]	XRevan86	In the past tense that would work.
[23:02]	highest_cubist_thrills	ibm had zeke, the happy zyklon pellet
[23:03]	highest_cubist_thrills	we havent heard much from zeke in a while
[23:03]	highest_cubist_thrills	he fell out of favour a bit in the 50s
[23:04]	highest_cubist_thrills	along with punchy the punchcard
[23:04]	highest_cubist_thrills	and most of the "ibm and friends" gang
[23:05]	highest_cubist_thrills	now theres vlad, the systemd uber-mallard
[23:05]	highest_cubist_thrills	he has a red fedora but like systemd itself, it clashes like hell
[23:06]	highest_cubist_thrills	vlad likes little pieces of bread, or munching on "unmaintained" software, like linucks
[23:07]	highest_cubist_thrills	here vlad, have a bit of dns server
[23:07]	highest_cubist_thrills	OM NOM NOM NOM
[23:07]	TR News	Rust trying to belittle mass resignations while Linux adopts this shebang https://blog.rust-lang.org/inside-rust/2022/10/06/governance-update.html
[23:07]	TR Bot	 Governance Update | Inside Rust Blog
[23:07]	highest_cubist_thrills	vlad is always hungry and always eating, thats why hes so big
[23:08]	MinceR	07 000106 < highest_cubist_thrills> hi, it looks like youre trying to sell out! can i help?" 
[23:08]	MinceR	i'm sure they're subtler than that
[23:08]	TR News	Rust is a "community" like Mozilla Corporation is "community". Worse yet, Microsoft controls Rust, Gulag funded it...
[23:08]	highest_cubist_thrills	still?
[23:08]	MinceR	they've developed corporatespeak specifically for this purpose
[23:08]	highest_cubist_thrills	true enough
[23:08]	MinceR	07 000148 < XRevan86> > 6.0.0-1-default
[23:08]	highest_cubist_thrills	i always though the veneer was impressively thin though
[23:08]	MinceR	"if i want cutting edge, i'll buy a sword. if i want bleeding edge, i'll use it."
[23:08]	highest_cubist_thrills	lol
[23:09]	MinceR	lol @ zeke
[23:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	ibm, we specialise in business solutions, final soultions, better solutions
[23:10]	MinceR	solutions desperately looking for a problem
[23:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	systemd is the final solution for distro proliferation
[23:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	solutions desperately looking for a problem <- thats their struggle, yes
[23:12]	DaemonFC	iBotta missed another Walmart receipt so I filed a support ticket.
[23:12]	DaemonFC	This happens sometimes.
[23:12]	DaemonFC	:P
[23:13]	highest_cubist_thrills	if their solutions dont find a problem, they can make one
[23:14]	highest_cubist_thrills	i read years ago that novartis makes a cancer drug
[23:14]	highest_cubist_thrills	and they make a fertiliser that causes cancer
[23:19]	MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/22081218
[23:19]	TR Bot	 IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/g7urct1mb3g91.jpg created on 2022-08-12 05:05:38.413056
[23:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-05.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[23:20]	TR News	 (NEW): Extension Manager 0.4 Intros Compatibility Checker, Adaptive UI http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/Extension_Manager_0_4_Intros_Compatibility_Checker_Adaptive_UI.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/Extension_Manager_0_4_Intros_Compatibility_Checker_Adaptive_UI.gmi 
[23:20]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Extension Manager 0.4 Intros Compatibility Checker, Adaptive UI
[23:21]	TR News	 (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/Programming_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/Programming_Leftovers.1.gmi 
[23:21]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
[23:21]	TR News	 (NEW): Replacing CentOS, IBM Waffle, and Red Hat Promoting Microsoft http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/Replacing_CentOS_IBM_Waffle_and_Red_Hat_Promoting_Microsoft.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/Replacing_CentOS_IBM_Waffle_and_Red_Hat_Promoting_Microsoft.gmi 
[23:21]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Replacing CentOS, IBM Waffle, and Red Hat Promoting Microsoft
[23:21]	TR News	 (NEW): LibreOffice, LittleLink, and Chrome SFS File http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/LibreOffice_LittleLink_and_Chrome_SFS_File.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/LibreOffice_LittleLink_and_Chrome_SFS_File.gmi 
[23:21]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines LibreOffice, LittleLink, and Chrome SFS File
[23:24]	TR News	Links 06/10/2022: PostgreSQL 15 RC 2 and Alarmist BS Because of Phoronix | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/06/postgresql-15-rc-2/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/06/postgresql-15-rc-2/
[23:24]	TR Bot	 Links 06/10/2022: PostgreSQL 15 RC 2 and Alarmist BS Because of Phoronix | Techrights
[23:25]	psydruid	https://wccftech.com/amd-hit-with-weak-pc-demand-as-desktop-notebook-sales-tank-by-40/
[23:25]	TR Bot	 AMD Hit With Weak PC Demand As Desktop, Notebook Sales Tank By 40%
[23:26]		*psydruid hopes prices will increase even more
[23:27]	schestowitz[TR]	hahahaha
[23:27]	schestowitz[TR]	pause
[23:27]	schestowitz[TR]	hahahaha
[23:27]		*starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #techrights
[23:27]	schestowitz[TR]	also fewer WINDOWS PCs
[23:27]	schestowitz[TR]	read as: windows licensing tanks
[23:27]	schestowitz[TR]	bailout biden will reach out deeper 
[23:28]	schestowitz[TR]	to help out his buddies at redmond
[23:28]	schestowitz[TR]	* psydruid hopes prices will increase even more
[23:28]	schestowitz[TR]	on the one hand, if demand is outstripped by suppler
[23:28]	schestowitz[TR]	prices go lower
[23:28]	schestowitz[TR]	but manufacturing logistics can hange to
[23:28]	schestowitz[TR]	*too
[23:29]	schestowitz[TR]	so produuction cost per unit goes up
[23:31]	TR News	The OSI runs this series to whitewash criminal behaviour by Microsoft, which pays to do this whitewashing https://blog.opensource.org/first-insights-deep-dive-ai-podcast-2/ see http://techrights.org/2022/09/30/infiltration-of-osi/
[23:31]	TR Bot	 First Insights: Deep Dive AI Podcast - Voices of Open Source
[23:31]	TR Bot	 Open Source Initiative Controlled (Infiltrated) by Microsoft GitHub: Microsoft Bribes OSI to Justify GPL Violations Under the Guise of AI, Even Writes the OSIs Material | Techrights
[23:31]	TR News	Today's OSI works against the OSI's original mission.
[23:32]	TR News	Microsoft Windows TCO https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/10/06/top-cves-actively-exploited-peoples-republic-china-state-sponsored
[23:32]	TR Bot	 Top CVEs Actively Exploited by Peoples Republic of China State-Sponsored Cyber Actors | CISA
[23:33]	TR News	Microsoft tops the list https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/alerts/aa22-279a
[23:33]	TR Bot	 Top CVEs Actively Exploited By Peoples Republic of China State-Sponsored Cyber Actors | CISA
[23:33]	psydruid	I think they need to set higher prices to sustain revenue
[23:33]	psydruid	as demand remains lower and may decrease even more over the next few years
[23:34]	TR News	4 out of 13 for "Remote Code Execution"... Microsoft! https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/10/06/top-cves-actively-exploited-peoples-republic-china-state-sponsored
[23:36]	TR News	Phoronix got gifts from Valve. Returning a favour? https://www.phoronix.com/news/Steam-Deck-Immediate
[23:36]	TR Bot	Deck Now Available For Immediate Ordering, Steam Deck Dock Also In-Stock - Phoronix
[23:36]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: Intel fucked up and now Moronix blames Linux.
[23:37]	DaemonFC	I actually ran that kernel for a while on my Tiger Lake and the screen didn't get all weird.
[23:37]	TR News	Report them to authorities, quit the job, or get an entirely separate machine to put that spyware on https://palant.info/2022/10/06/scirge-when-your-employer-mandates-spyware/
[23:37]	TR Bot	 Scirge: When your employer mandates spyware | Almost Secure
[23:38]	TR News	[PULL] Networking for next-6.1 - Jakub Kicinski https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20221004052000.2645894-1-kuba@kernel.org/ Source: Linux | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/20221004052000.2645894-1-kuba@kernel.org/
[23:38]	TR Bot	 [PULL] Networking for next-6.1 - Jakub Kicinski
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[23:39]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: see the headlines here
[23:39]	schestowitz[TR]	https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Beware_Linux_kernel_5_19_12_could_damage_your_Intel_laptop_disp.shtml
[23:39]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Beware: Linux kernel 5.19.12 could damage your Intel laptop display, literally
[23:39]	schestowitz[TR]	even the Microsoft sites have a frield day
[23:39]	schestowitz[TR]	"DON"T TRY LINUX. IT WILL KILL YOUR PC!!'
[23:39]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: Intel patches could damage your Intel laptop.
[23:39]	schestowitz[TR]	IF
[23:39]	schestowitz[TR]	if you use some cutting-edge kernel
[23:39]	schestowitz[TR]	which almost nobody does
[23:39]	starstreak	LMAO
[23:39]	DaemonFC	A lot of people do.
[23:40]	schestowitz[TR]	I saw framework laptop named
[23:40]	schestowitz[TR]	with some esoteric distros
[23:40]	DaemonFC	This affected OpenSUSE Tumbleweed, Arch, Manjaro, and Fedora.
[23:40]	DaemonFC	And quite a few others.
[23:40]	schestowitz[TR]	5.19 kernel?
[23:40]	psydruid	40% less revenue for Microsoft will be disastrous
[23:40]	DaemonFC	Yes.
[23:40]	DaemonFC	$ uname -a
[23:40]	DaemonFC	Linux fedora-Lenovo-ThinkBook15 5.19.13-300.fc37.x86_64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Tue Oct 4 15:54:24 UTC 2022 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[23:41]	schestowitz[TR]	so they hire a bunch of sarah shrps again
[23:41]	schestowitz[TR]	the code sucked
[23:41]	schestowitz[TR]	and they put their "products" at risk
[23:41]	starstreak	[britney@archbtw ~]$ uname -a
[23:41]	starstreak	Linux archbtw 5.19.13-arch1-1 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Tue, 04 Oct 2022 14:36:58 +0000 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[23:41]	schestowitz[TR]	only hours ago I saw a ridiculous ppuigg piece about how Intel's CEO sees the software strategy
[23:41]	schestowitz[TR]	maybe no quality control
[23:41]	XRevan86	starstreak: I'm ahead again.
[23:41]	schestowitz[TR]	and people who can barely code
[23:41]	schestowitz[TR]	and then thorow the boosk
[23:42]	schestowitz[TR]	at the person who turns down their code
[23:43]	schestowitz[TR]	I use .19 also
[23:43]	schestowitz[TR]	 uname -a
[23:43]	schestowitz[TR]	Linux vonick 4.19.0-20-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.19.235-1 (2022-03-17) x86_64 GNU/Linux
[23:43]	schestowitz[TR]	;-)
[23:43]	starstreak	4.19 lmao
[23:43]	highest_cubist_thrills	starstreak  <schestowitz[TR]> https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Beware_Linux_kernel_5_19_12_could_damage_your_Intel_laptop_disp.shtml
[23:43]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Beware: Linux kernel 5.19.12 could damage your Intel laptop display, literally
[23:43]	DaemonFC	You haven't applied any updates to that since March?
[23:43]	highest_cubist_thrills	linucks
[23:43]	schestowitz[TR]	$ uname -a
[23:43]	schestowitz[TR]	Linux bubi 5.15.0-46-generic #49~20.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Thu Aug 4 19:15:44 UTC 2022 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[23:44]	DaemonFC	You really should bump it for security updates.
[23:44]	schestowitz[TR]	(kde neon)
[23:44]	starstreak	highest_cubist_thrills, i know
[23:44]	starstreak	it didn't effect my laptop, i ran 5.19.12 for a few days
[23:44]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: august 
[23:44]	DaemonFC	I usually bump the kernel weekly.
[23:45]	schestowitz[TR]	what major kernel bug since august?
[23:45]	DaemonFC	I don't know.
[23:45]	schestowitz[TR]	see?
[23:45]	schestowitz[TR]	I update other stuff
[23:45]	schestowitz[TR]	don't want to reboot for some mirage of a bug
[23:45]	schestowitz[TR]	like sometyhing "pipe"
[23:45]	schestowitz[TR]	new name for every privilege esc
[23:45]	highest_cubist_thrills	ne pas une pipe
[23:45]	DaemonFC	Oh, if I feel kind of crappy over the next few days, I went and got the updated Pfizer COVID shot.
[23:45]	schestowitz[TR]	"PIPE!!"
[23:45]	schestowitz[TR]	pipe bomb!!
[23:46]	MinceR	Linux deathwind 5.18.19_1 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Thu Aug 25 14:36:55 UTC 2022 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[23:46]	highest_cubist_thrills	 | | | | | | | | 
[23:46]	DaemonFC	I don't know. I feel okay so far. That lady at CVS last year really fucked up my arm.
[23:46]	highest_cubist_thrills	ne | pas | une | pipe
[23:46]	schestowitz[TR]	the US has lots of covid atm
[23:46]	schestowitz[TR]	9% positivity rate
[23:46]	schestowitz[TR]	9 out of 100 tested come out positive
[23:46]	DaemonFC	Yeah. Probably because few get tested without symptoms anymore.
[23:47]	highest_cubist_thrills	the usa sucks, but dont worry, its dying-- roy
[23:47]	schestowitz[TR]	tthat is one theory
[23:47]	DaemonFC	Now that nobody is requiring it and they don't want to know about asymptomatic cases.
[23:47]	schestowitz[TR]	highest_cubist_thrills: it's not new
[23:47]	schestowitz[TR]	it has been dying since the 90s
[23:47]	highest_cubist_thrills	no its sucked for a couple hundred years at least
[23:47]	DaemonFC	Most of those pop up COVID test places are gone and the place is for rent again.
[23:47]	schestowitz[TR]	some people refuse to get the message and get another credit card, "REMIND ME LATER"
[23:47]	DaemonFC	MARISOL?
[23:47]	highest_cubist_thrills	the usa is collapsing, its true
[23:47]	schestowitz[TR]	her too
[23:47]	DaemonFC	I keep the cards paid off immediately after I buy something.
[23:48]	highest_cubist_thrills	but thats not the whole story
[23:48]	highest_cubist_thrills	thats not the whole story of any collapsing country
[23:48]	schestowitz[TR]	you could fall back on relativism
[23:48]	highest_cubist_thrills	indeed, its the only sane option
[23:48]	schestowitz[TR]	like, "china is worse blah blah"
[23:48]	DaemonFC	Nobody's paying me to fill up my gas tank with my debit card.
[23:48]	highest_cubist_thrills	which it is
[23:48]	highest_cubist_thrills	but i wouldnt agree with people who say that means usa doesnt suck
[23:48]	DaemonFC	Why use debit? The same bank gives me a credit card I can pay the next day with the bank account and I get 4% on gas.
[23:48]	highest_cubist_thrills	usa sucks
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[23:48]	schestowitz[TR]	china is the west's warehouse
[23:49]	highest_cubist_thrills	but ive spent more than a decade trying to find a sane country
[23:49]	schestowitz[TR]	but won't be for long
[23:49]	highest_cubist_thrills	it doesnt exist
[23:49]	highest_cubist_thrills	theyre all nuts
[23:49]	DaemonFC	They're certainly not giving it away, Roy.
[23:49]	starstreak	USA sucks except for California
[23:49]	schestowitz[TR]	at some point the west cannot invoice that much
[23:49]	DaemonFC	4% is 4%.
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[23:49]	highest_cubist_thrills	and those that arent directly nuts, are controlled by a country that is
[23:49]	highest_cubist_thrills	such as china
[23:49]	DaemonFC	starstreakUSA sucks except for California
[23:49]	DaemonFC	1 out of 50 states agree with that.
[23:49]	highest_cubist_thrills	<starstreak> USA sucks except for California <- XD
[23:49]	highest_cubist_thrills	yes, yes, california is a GREAT place to live
[23:49]	schestowitz[TR]	starstreak: homeless land
[23:49]	MinceR	humanity sucks, but don't worry, it's dying
[23:50]	DaemonFC	Most people hate the state they live in and want to move somewhere else thinking it's going to be any better.
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[23:50]	highest_cubist_thrills	its where all the europeans who spend their careers trashing the states go to emigrate
[23:50]	schestowitz[TR]	MinceR: now it died faster
[23:50]	schestowitz[TR]	2 years faster in the US
[23:50]	schestowitz[TR]	2+
[23:50]	DaemonFC	Like there isn't some greedy fucking asshole running that state that want your entire paycheck too.
[23:50]	MinceR	which state is that?
[23:50]	highest_cubist_thrills	but i still dont get what they see in it other than "oh look, sunlight."
[23:50]	schestowitz[TR]	longevity on the steep decline, not sure about UK longevity 
[23:50]	MinceR	i'm pretty sure every state is run by greedy fucking assholes
[23:50]	highest_cubist_thrills	mincer: califorinia is the best state in the usa
[23:51]	MinceR	and wanting your entire paycheck is part of being greedy
[23:51]	highest_cubist_thrills	 ;)
[23:51]	DaemonFC	MinceR: Illinois is ran by greedy fucking assholes and California is ran by greedy fucking assholes who are even greedier and dumber than the ones running Illinois.
[23:51]	schestowitz[TR]	califorinia... by FLORINA
[23:51]	MinceR	Florida Man
[23:51]	schestowitz[TR]	Carly
[23:52]	DaemonFC	When the layoffs really hit the Bay Area, there won't be any tax and California will just be a broke ass state with illegals and Governor French Laundry.
[23:52]	schestowitz[TR]	Felta FLORINA
[23:52]	DaemonFC	Oh, and Matt GULAG, who gets it.....
[23:52]	DaemonFC	:)
[23:52]	DaemonFC	At the open sores conference bathroom.
[23:52]	DaemonFC	Despite being in a partnership.
[23:53]	DaemonFC	With a transformer.
[23:53]	schestowitz[TR]	MESSING UP
[23:53]	DaemonFC	Despite being transphobic.
[23:53]	highest_cubist_thrills	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=mwgZalAFNhM
[23:53]	TR Bot	 2Pac - California Love feat. Dr. Dre (Dirty) (Music Video) HD - Invidious
[23:53]	MinceR	nobody move or matt gulag gets it!
[23:53]	highest_cubist_thrills	thats the second (rather the first) mad max hip hop video ive seen
[23:53]	schestowitz[TR]	highest_cubist_thrills: oh, the days..
[23:53]	schestowitz[TR]	very weird video clip
[23:54]	DaemonFC	MinceRnobody move or matt gulag gets it!
[23:54]	DaemonFC	Students at a New York university got an organic chemistry professor fired because they didn't like the fact that he gave some of them bad grades for being stupid fuck-ups.
[23:55]	DaemonFC	So they got him fired with a petition.
[23:55]	DaemonFC	I wanna go there. I can be a Doctor of Organic Chemistry without even trying.
[23:55]	DaemonFC	And then I can go toe to toe with Doctor GULAG.
[23:55]	TR News	Mozilla Firefox is a malware platform (runtime), just like any other 'modern" browser https://palant.info/2022/10/06/scirge-when-your-employer-mandates-spyware/
[23:55]	TR Bot	 Scirge: When your employer mandates spyware | Almost Secure
[23:55]	MinceR	:>
[23:56]	schestowitz[TR]	maybe I can become a GP
[23:56]	schestowitz[TR]	without a relevant degree
[23:56]	schestowitz[TR]	they can call me doctor
[23:56]	schestowitz[TR]	and I can pretende rto diagnose
[23:56]	DaemonFC	And say......Doctor GULAG, EMERGENCY, paging DOCTOR GULAG! Come right away! (In the stall at the open sores conference.)
[23:56]	schestowitz[TR]	just like a biologist pretending to eb security guru
[23:57]	DaemonFC	He likes holes.
[23:57]	DaemonFC	Glory Holes
[23:57]	DaemonFC	If you don't find one, you miss out.
[23:57]	schestowitz[TR]	what are you insinuating
[23:57]	schestowitz[TR]	he's in the booth for "transphobic shit'
[23:57]	schestowitz[TR]	i.e. number 2
[23:58]	DaemonFC	Is that the one where you sign up to be a transformerphobe or a SJW with a Reddit (child porn dump) hat on?
[23:58]	highest_cubist_thrills	<MinceR> nobody move or matt gulag gets it! <- just like a biologist pretending to eb security guru <- the implication being that if you study biology you cant become knowledgeable in othr fields
[23:58]	DaemonFC	I never can remember.
[23:58]	schestowitz[TR]	highest_cubist_thrills: I can be a GP
[23:58]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me never replied to mincer
[23:58]	schestowitz[TR]	without a degree
[23:58]	highest_cubist_thrills	i was trying to find a funny dance video
[23:58]	schestowitz[TR]	right?
[23:58]	highest_cubist_thrills	being a gp requires a degree. being a security expert frankly does not
[23:59]	schestowitz[TR]	so it's a fake job
[23:59]	schestowitz[TR]	which it is
[23:59]	schestowitz[TR]	like 90% of securty people are fakers and posers
[23:59]	highest_cubist_thrills	security expert is a fake job?
[23:59]	schestowitz[TR]	and they themselves will attest toit
[23:59]	schestowitz[TR]	it's like a made up job
[23:59]	highest_cubist_thrills	 90% of securty people are fakers and posers <- maybe. i dont know where id put the numbers tbh
[23:59]	schestowitz[TR]	people who go, clown this, outsource this, buy that
[23:59]	highest_cubist_thrills	it's like a made up job <- maybe im naive for thinking actual security experts exist
[23:59]	schestowitz[TR]	torevalds was not off the mark
[23:59]	DaemonFC	It often is a fake job. Yes. Mozilla wasted a lot of money hiring WIndow Snyder, who had no qualifications except Windows XP SP2, which was marketed as "security". Over-glorified pop-up blocker.
[23:59]	schestowitz[TR]	when he called them transphopbic monkeys
[23:59]	highest_cubist_thrills	im sure most are fake, yes