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| vZS1 | https://hackernoon.com/raspberry-pi-headless-install-462ccabd75d0 | Nov 06 00:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackernoon.com | Headless Raspberry Pi Setup | Hacker Noon | Nov 06 00:00 | |
| vZS1 | You can tweak the image like in that link to set it up headless (: | Nov 06 00:01 |
| vZS1 | https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/configuration/wireless/headless.md | Nov 06 00:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.raspberrypi.org | Setting up a Raspberry Pi headless - Raspberry Pi Documentation | Nov 06 00:02 | |
| vZS1 | That one's for the wireless headless setup | Nov 06 00:03 |
| schestowitz | thanks | Nov 06 00:05 |
| vZS1 | Anytime | Nov 06 00:06 |
| vZS1 | I don't think I'll be up that late though | Nov 06 00:06 |
| vZS1 | Already in bed | Nov 06 00:06 |
| schestowitz | that sounds... kind of wrong | Nov 06 00:07 |
| vZS1 | What? | Nov 06 00:07 |
| schestowitz | joke | Nov 06 00:07 |
| vZS1 | Ah | Nov 06 00:07 |
| schestowitz | both lines | Nov 06 00:07 |
| vZS1 | Too tired to notice lol | Nov 06 00:07 |
| schestowitz | just generated 0 http://techrights.org/txt f | Nov 06 00:11 |
| vZS1 | I like it | Nov 06 00:12 |
| vZS1 | Looks like a comfy monospace going | Nov 06 00:13 |
| vZS1 | font* | Nov 06 00:13 |
| schestowitz | won't muck about with your system settings | Nov 06 00:14 |
| schestowitz | the way mediagoblin seems to... | Nov 06 00:14 |
| vZS1 | I'd cut down on the special characters a bit | Nov 06 00:15 |
| vZS1 | Might throw off some screen readers | Nov 06 00:15 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux Mint Unveils New Packages http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143872#comment-27070 [https://pleroma.site/objects/39ac18ac-ed44-46e6-a9dc-b97299ba02e8] | Nov 06 00:19 | |
| vZS1 | I'm going to head off now. Good luck with the Pi setup | Nov 06 00:20 |
| schestowitz | the hyphens and smart quotes? | Nov 06 00:21 |
| schestowitz | it's utf-8 | Nov 06 00:21 |
| schestowitz | if they cannot do that, most sites would not play nice | Nov 06 00:21 |
| schestowitz | but... | Nov 06 00:21 |
| vZS1 | I was thinking more the asterisks | Nov 06 00:22 |
| schestowitz | find me a sed script to simplify chars | Nov 06 00:22 |
| schestowitz | I have some of my own | Nov 06 00:22 |
| schestowitz | | sed -e 's/’/’/' | sed -e 's/’/’/' | sed -e 's/–/ - /' | sed -e 's/»/ - /' | sed -e 's/'/’/' | sed -e 's/"/"/' | sed -e 's/—/"/' | sed -e 's/&/\&/' | sed -e 's/&/\&/'| | Nov 06 00:22 |
| schestowitz | something like that | Nov 06 00:22 |
| vZS1 | Also, don't forget to turn off password authentication for SSH when you're logged in to the Pi | Nov 06 00:22 |
| schestowitz | that's for html output | Nov 06 00:22 |
| schestowitz | no, I need to change the default password | Nov 06 00:23 |
| schestowitz | then install openssh-server | Nov 06 00:23 |
| schestowitz | or ssh-server | Nov 06 00:23 |
| schestowitz | also, by default, the ssh port would be open only to local lan | Nov 06 00:23 |
| schestowitz | unless I configure the hub to channel it all to that device | Nov 06 00:24 |
| vZS1 | You can have a pre-built ISO for a lot of that | Nov 06 00:24 |
| vZS1 | But it's simpler with physical access and a stock image | Nov 06 00:25 |
| vZS1 | Anyway. Bed time for me. Good night | Nov 06 00:26 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Kernel: Torvalds, Linux 5.11 and Mike Blumenkrantz’s Graphics Work • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144070 [https://pleroma.site/objects/749e393e-5f4c-488d-b576-29f74994174c] | Nov 06 00:33 | |
| schestowitz | gn, vZS1 | Nov 06 00:34 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Video/Shows: “We NEED more NOOBS on Linux!” and Latest #TLLTS • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144071 [https://pleroma.site/objects/22aa9aa5-67c8-4d1a-ae3f-02d104f7d809] | Nov 06 00:37 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Programming: GNU Autoconf and Python Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144072 [https://pleroma.site/objects/2b783c48-de6a-47d5-9208-31933f6d0b85] | Nov 06 00:42 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Security: APVI and Linux Security Hardening for Beginners • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144073 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f1875b44-a23c-4453-948f-233c2f0a652f] | Nov 06 00:44 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144074 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ac58577d-db2d-4b8d-9618-e9500a9434ae] | Nov 06 00:48 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Data Science (Spying on Users) is Hard: ALSA in Firefox • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144075 [https://pleroma.site/objects/1e57e304-1343-4035-9e43-9f9fdd6acb8a] | Nov 06 00:53 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Ktown becomes Vtown • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144076 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4a1ca824-87fc-418a-8d3b-2c14cbb8139e] | Nov 06 00:57 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: SUSE: PayiQ and SUSE Enterprise Storage 7 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144077 [https://pleroma.site/objects/9a7edd72-14e5-4c20-ab17-008ddbcc8b9e] | Nov 06 01:00 | |
| liberty_box | https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-54833459 | Nov 06 01:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Coronavirus: Denmark imposes lockdowns amid mink covid fears - BBC News | Nov 06 01:03 | |
| schestowitz | https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20201105083002.GA3429143@kroah.com/ | Nov 06 01:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | Linux Kernel Code of Conduct Committee: October 2020 report - Greg KH | Nov 06 01:08 | |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 06 01:08 |
| schestowitz | From: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> | Nov 06 01:08 |
| schestowitz | To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org | Nov 06 01:08 |
| schestowitz | Cc: tech-board-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org | Nov 06 01:08 |
| schestowitz | Subject: Linux Kernel Code of Conduct Committee: October 2020 report | Nov 06 01:08 |
| schestowitz | Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2020 09:30:02 +0100 | Nov 06 01:08 |
| schestowitz | Message-ID: <20201105083002.GA3429143@kroah.com> (raw) | Nov 06 01:08 |
| schestowitz | Despite our previously hoped-for timely release of these reports that | Nov 06 01:08 |
| schestowitz | were mentioned last time: | Nov 06 01:08 |
| schestowitz | https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20200103105614.GC1047442@kroah.com/ | Nov 06 01:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | Linux Kernel Code of Conduct Committee: December 2019 report - Greg KH | Nov 06 01:08 | |
| schestowitz | that hasn't happened, so here's the report for the first 10 months of | Nov 06 01:08 |
| schestowitz | 2020. I will work to do better on this in the future, my apologies. | Nov 06 01:08 |
| schestowitz | Linux Kernel Code of Conduct Committee: October 2020 | Nov 06 01:08 |
| schestowitz | In the period of January 1, 2020 through October 31, 2020 the Committee | Nov 06 01:08 |
| schestowitz | received the following reports: | Nov 06 01:08 |
| schestowitz | - Unacceptable behavior or comments in email: 1 | Nov 06 01:08 |
| schestowitz | - Unacceptable comments in github repo by non-community members: 1 | Nov 06 01:08 |
| schestowitz | - Unacceptable comments toward a company: 1 | Nov 06 01:08 |
| schestowitz | The result of the investigation: | Nov 06 01:08 |
| schestowitz | - Education and coaching: 1 | Nov 06 01:08 |
| schestowitz | - Locking of github repo for any comments: 1 | Nov 06 01:08 |
| schestowitz | - Clarification that the Code of Conduct covers conduct related to | Nov 06 01:08 |
| schestowitz | individual developers only: 1 | Nov 06 01:08 |
| schestowitz | We would like to thank the Linux kernel community members who have | Nov 06 01:08 |
| schestowitz | supported the adoption of the Code of Conduct and who continue to uphold | Nov 06 01:08 |
| schestowitz | the professional standards of our community. If you have questions | Nov 06 01:09 |
| schestowitz | about this report, please write to <conduct@kernel.org>. | Nov 06 01:09 |
| schestowitz | ------------ | Nov 06 01:09 |
| schestowitz | The website at https://www.kernel.org/code-of-conduct.html has a list of | Nov 06 01:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.kernel.org | Code of Conduct | Nov 06 01:09 | |
| schestowitz | this, and other past Code Of Conduct Committee reports. | Nov 06 01:09 |
| schestowitz | thanks, | Nov 06 01:09 |
| schestowitz | greg k-h | Nov 06 01:09 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 06 01:09 |
| schestowitz | zoobab highlighted this to us | Nov 06 01:12 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: nothing too bad about how they handled it | Nov 06 01:12 |
| schestowitz | for now | Nov 06 01:12 |
| schestowitz | maybe in the future that will change | Nov 06 01:12 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/01/03/linux-kernel-code-of-conduct-committee/ | Nov 06 01:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Linux Foundation’s Linux Kernel Code of Conduct (CoC) Committee is Now Officially Corporate | Techrights | Nov 06 01:13 | |
| schestowitz | notice how LF now plays with Microsoft censorship platfform shithub though | Nov 06 01:13 |
| schestowitz | what they have sunk to | Nov 06 01:13 |
| schestowitz | Dear Microsoft, please please please please please, love, the Linux Foundation | Nov 06 01:14 |
| XRevan86 | https://mariadb.com/kb/en/mariadb-1057-release-notes/ | Nov 06 01:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-MariaDB 10.5.7 Release Notes - MariaDB Knowledge Base | Nov 06 01:30 | |
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| DaemonFC[m] | The Green Party trolls not being on the ballot in Georgia will be Biden's victory margin and then some. | Nov 06 02:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He's going to be 2,000 or so votes ahead in the end at this rate. | Nov 06 02:24 |
| schestowitz | they are not "trolls" | Nov 06 02:28 |
| schestowitz | they're just not corporate stooges | Nov 06 02:28 |
| schestowitz | satellites of billionaires are more trolls than the Green Party | Nov 06 02:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's impossible to argue that the Greens would have taken more than a couple thousand votes. Which is how far ahead Biden will likely be in the end. | Nov 06 02:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | *Wouldn't | Nov 06 02:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So they would have given Georgia and 16 electoral votes to Trump had they been there and maybe 10 in Wisconsin too. | Nov 06 02:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Since their Republican lawyers failed to get them on the ballot, Trump lost. | Nov 06 02:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | At the rate Georgia is busting out the count and where the remaining ballots are and how they have broken so far.... | Nov 06 02:33 |
| XRevan86 | The US system is so ridiculous opposition is by design evil | Nov 06 02:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Biden could lead by as much as 5,000 votes and the results could be in within 2 hours. | Nov 06 02:33 |
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| XRevan86 | I've got to wonder why there's so much political tension | Nov 06 02:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 5,000 votes is very hard to undo with a recount, especially since the state has been counting at a deliberate pace to avoid a bad first count. | Nov 06 02:35 |
| XRevan86 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pluralism_(political_philosophy) this is the aspect that the US lacks on a level of basic electoral law. | Nov 06 02:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Pluralism (political philosophy) - Wikipedia | Nov 06 02:45 | |
| oarion7 | DaemonFC[m]: That's right wing misinformation re: green party on the ballots. Have you ever met a Green party voter who said they would have voted for the Democrat if the green party option weren't on the ballot? People who vote Green are choosing to vote their conscience and they tend, rightfully, not to vote otherwise | Nov 06 02:46 |
| XRevan86 | Not a pluralist democracy. A dualist one? | Nov 06 02:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In exit polls about half say they would have stayed home and about half said they would have voted for Clinton or Gore. | Nov 06 02:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Jill Stein caused Hillary to lose Michigan and then went partying with Putin. | Nov 06 02:49 |
| oarion7 | That's a good argument for rank-choice voting, I suppose | Nov 06 02:52 |
| oarion7 | I'd party with Putin too | Nov 06 02:52 |
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| XRevan86 | "(04:09) oarion7: Doubtful the election will be resolved. We will either proceed with two presidents or a hopefully orderly dissolution of the United States into its component parts" | Nov 06 02:55 |
| XRevan86 | That's Luke Smith's bullshit, for the record. | Nov 06 02:56 |
| oarion7 | It's a good line | Nov 06 02:56 |
| XRevan86 | From someone who believes in conspiracies. | Nov 06 02:57 |
| oarion7 | Conspiracy to what? | Nov 06 02:57 |
| oarion7 | For someone who isn't a nationalist, might be more accurate | Nov 06 02:57 |
| XRevan86 | oarion7: I wish I remembered. His videos pop up on Invidious, so I watched some of them. A few months ago he posted a video with such juicy content I decided not to watch anything of his ever again. | Nov 06 02:58 |
| oarion7 | Did it strike you as mean spirited or derogatory? | Nov 06 02:59 |
| oarion7 | I have a limited tolerance for that too but I mostly like him | Nov 06 02:59 |
| XRevan86 | I watched his latest video on Balkanisation though, and I think this is crazy. He's that worked up not everyone supports Trump. | Nov 06 03:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In Putin's Russia, party unites you. | Nov 06 03:00 |
| XRevan86 | oarion7: It stroke me as conspirologist, like I said. | Nov 06 03:01 |
| oarion7 | Like he's plotting something? I don't get it | Nov 06 03:02 |
| oarion7 | Or thinks others are? | Nov 06 03:02 |
| XRevan86 | oarion7: Like he believes in Cultural Marxism or something similar. | Nov 06 03:02 |
| XRevan86 | The QAnon alley kind of guy is my impression of him. | Nov 06 03:03 |
| oarion7 | I get it now | Nov 06 03:06 |
| oarion7 | I never put him in that category | Nov 06 03:06 |
| XRevan86 | And the idea itself is quite something. The scenario I'm imagining is India/Pakistan. | Nov 06 03:06 |
| XRevan86 | oarion7: It's not that severe, but the vibe is there. | Nov 06 03:09 |
| oarion7 | In the US an appeal to federalism should be sufficient, but yeah he left that interpretation open | Nov 06 03:09 |
| XRevan86 | Oh he made it clear he wants a divorce. | Nov 06 03:09 |
| oarion7 | I agree with the general idea | Nov 06 03:10 |
| oarion7 | vis-a-vis states or regions at least makes sense | Nov 06 03:10 |
| XRevan86 | What he did leave open is how | Nov 06 03:11 |
| XRevan86 | Deport all white people over 40 to the South, the rest to the North and then split? | Nov 06 03:11 |
| oarion7 | I think that would be wrong. The India/Pakistan is a good appeal to make to me, because I resent the partition for sucking the Hinduism out of Islam in South Asia | Nov 06 03:12 |
| oarion7 | Boarding people up in busses and moving them around is insane. | Nov 06 03:12 |
| XRevan86 | oarion7: It's inevitable, there's no clear line that would divide the US into a Trump sector and a not-Trump sector. | Nov 06 03:13 |
| XRevan86 | Even if going more granular to the state level. | Nov 06 03:14 |
| MinceR | maybe an updated jesusland/USC divide | Nov 06 03:14 |
| XRevan86 | And a peaceful divorce is not a common thing, especially when the borders are not defined. Border disputes are inevitable, which means war. | Nov 06 03:16 |
| XRevan86 | The US is in some very deep shit, but this is not the solution. Unless you want to help my glorious master, then by all means. | Nov 06 03:18 |
| XRevan86 | He might invite to his party, who knows | Nov 06 03:19 |
| MinceR | are brain implants available for "republican" voters? | Nov 06 03:21 |
| MinceR | or perhaps an Ark of Truth | Nov 06 03:25 |
| XRevan86 | oarion7: If you really want to plant ideas near a water cooler, here's mine: the United States of America is not a proper democracy. It doesn't matter what the majority of the people think, these things only matter in democracies. | Nov 06 03:32 |
| XRevan86 | Even when taking into account bias towards smaller states, it's still the case. | Nov 06 03:33 |
| XRevan86 | It's really hard to game a democratic system, because there are just too many people to game. Luckily the US is not a democracy, so it becomes doable. | Nov 06 03:35 |
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| XRevan86 | Without brainwashing at least. I'm just focusing on how the elections are designed. | Nov 06 03:41 |
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| XRevan86 | With per-state votes counting Trump would've still won at 52.6% in 2016. | Nov 06 04:03 |
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| XRevan86 | I.e. if it's still not a popular vote but voting with equal importance of all states, but the role of the electoral college institution is taken by a calculator for vastly improved precision. | Nov 06 04:06 |
| XRevan86 | The electoral college fascinates me as a complicated organisation which serves a function of a single person with a sheet of paper and a pen, except does that job with a bigger margin of error and is immeasurably more expensive. | Nov 06 04:11 |
| MinceR | and that function is to further distort an already broken election system | Nov 06 04:12 |
| MinceR | so useful! | Nov 06 04:12 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I mean making voting relative to a state. Which is arguably also not a good idea. | Nov 06 04:16 |
| superkuh | It is the principle idea of the united states of america. | Nov 06 04:17 |
| XRevan86 | superkuh: Relative voting or doing it poorly? | Nov 06 04:17 |
| superkuh | Having states be discrete voting entities. | Nov 06 04:17 |
| MinceR | States are people, my friend! | Nov 06 04:20 |
| XRevan86 | superkuh: If only they could send in the numbers instead of electors | Nov 06 04:24 |
| superkuh | Yes. That'd be sane. | Nov 06 04:26 |
| XRevan86 | I forgot to account for third parties. Trump would've gotten 48.57%, Hillary – 44.55%. | Nov 06 04:27 |
| XRevan86 | So under a saner system there would've been a second tour. | Nov 06 04:28 |
| XRevan86 | When removing FPTP from the equation the picture starts to look a whole lot differently with or without popular vote. | Nov 06 04:33 |
| MinceR | (cat) (audio:important) https://i.imgur.com/l7zER51.mp4 | Nov 06 04:35 |
| MinceR | i've heard twitler might showcase another function of electors: corruptability | Nov 06 04:36 |
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| schestowitz | vZS1: Got our raspi4 set up. Will install extensions to it in days/weeks to come. | Nov 06 07:18 |
| schestowitz | I can add a user account with login credentials and further instructions | Nov 06 07:19 |
| schestowitz | for ifps | Nov 06 07:19 |
| schestowitz | [02:52] <oarion7> That's a good argument for rank-choice voting, I suppose | Nov 06 07:22 |
| schestowitz | two more states might soon go that way | Nov 06 07:22 |
| schestowitz | Mass and Alaska | Nov 06 07:22 |
| schestowitz | The local elections here are like that | Nov 06 07:23 |
| schestowitz | So Greens go on top, remaining slots can be red (Labour) | Nov 06 07:23 |
| schestowitz | This way you're very clear on what you def. do NOT want | Nov 06 07:23 |
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| scientes | http://we.easyelectronics.ru/plis/softovyy-phy-dlya-ethernet-10base-t.html | Nov 06 09:16 |
| scientes | wow | Nov 06 09:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-we.easyelectronics.ru | Софтовый PHY для Ethernet 10BASE-T / ПЛИС / Сообщество EasyElectronics.ru | Nov 06 09:16 | |
| scientes | and one port is all you need, because you can use different subnets to both send and recieve | Nov 06 09:17 |
| schestowitz | nice | Nov 06 09:27 |
| scientes | so unlike phone it doesn't look like you need any external eletrical equitment | Nov 06 09:29 |
| scientes | " | Nov 06 09:30 |
| scientes | The only thing between the Ethernet cable and the Altera FPGA (with some Verilog inside) is a pair of transformers and a couple of resistors. " | Nov 06 09:30 |
| oiaohm | scientes: https://www.eeweb.com/building-a-passive-ethernet-hub/ A basic hub at 10base-t is insanely simple. | Nov 06 09:36 |
| oiaohm | Complexity really starts at 100base-t | Nov 06 09:36 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 | Nov 06 09:46 |
| oiaohm | scientes: Old land line phones the min connect circuit is a few very highly rated diodes. | Nov 06 09:50 |
| oiaohm | Block the high volatage. | Nov 06 09:51 |
| oiaohm | The fun of taking apart phone line bugs. | Nov 06 09:51 |
| oiaohm | Some of them have quite min circuits that work.. Ok not legal but work. | Nov 06 09:52 |
| scientes | oiaohm, yeah but you need that high-power ring | Nov 06 09:54 |
| scientes | oiaohm, does 100base-t actually use all 8 wires, or is that only 1gbit? | Nov 06 09:55 |
| scientes | oiaohm, but a FPGA can handle the complexity | Nov 06 09:56 |
| scientes | I believe only FPGAs can handle 100gbit/250gbit ethernet | Nov 06 09:56 |
| scientes | looks like a few 100gbit out there | Nov 06 10:00 |
| scientes | but this does 400 gbit https://www.xilinx.com/products/intellectual-property/em-di-400gemac.html | Nov 06 10:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.xilinx.com | 400G Ethernet Subsystem | Nov 06 10:00 | |
| oiaohm | scientes: 100Base-T is 4 wires. Its how come in countries where its legal you can put phone and 100base-T down the same cable. | Nov 06 10:01 |
| scientes | it wont go as far as phone | Nov 06 10:01 |
| oiaohm | Also how come you can split a cable in 2 for 100Base-T as well. | Nov 06 10:01 |
| scientes | but maybe it will | Nov 06 10:01 |
| scientes | "where it is legal" | Nov 06 10:01 |
| scientes | you mean where the AT&T mafiaa wont come after you? | Nov 06 10:01 |
| oiaohm | Here in Australia its techically illegal to put phone and data in the same cable. | Nov 06 10:01 |
| oiaohm | Its due to lighting risk. | Nov 06 10:02 |
| scientes | you mean you will have AT&T come with clubs to your house? | Nov 06 10:02 |
| scientes | "phone and data" | Nov 06 10:02 |
| scientes | there are the same damn thing | Nov 06 10:02 |
| scientes | have those ass-hats ever used dial-up? | Nov 06 10:02 |
| scientes | or fax | Nov 06 10:03 |
| oiaohm | When I say data I mean Base-T stuff | Nov 06 10:03 |
| scientes | or ASDL? | Nov 06 10:03 |
| oiaohm | The phone standards of Australia allow for the wires in the cable to techically melt. | Nov 06 10:03 |
| scientes | just had a fucking fuse | Nov 06 10:03 |
| scientes | its just a ass-hat mafiaa | Nov 06 10:04 |
| scientes | its the same reason phone service isn't free in places this equitment is put in | Nov 06 10:04 |
| scientes | and instead you get all that regan non-sense with "free if you kiss ass" | Nov 06 10:04 |
| oiaohm | ASDL modems have to be built to phone standards in Australia this includes passing taking a simulated lightning strike on the phone line port. | Nov 06 10:04 |
| oiaohm | And that is melt cable voltage. | Nov 06 10:04 |
| scientes | cause that equitment is obsolete, and making it free would increase its maintainability, not decrease it | Nov 06 10:04 |
| scientes | I was talking about this years ago | Nov 06 10:05 |
| oiaohm | Base-T stuff does not have to be rated that high. | Nov 06 10:05 |
| scientes | all that copper wire equitment needs to be siezed | Nov 06 10:05 |
| scientes | and implemented as free software solutions | Nov 06 10:05 |
| scientes | with free phone service | Nov 06 10:05 |
| scientes | and free ASDL and dial-up | Nov 06 10:05 |
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| scientes | there is no other way to pay for its maintinance | Nov 06 10:06 |
| scientes | but if its free locals will maintain it | Nov 06 10:06 |
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| scientes | they will just attach it to the sewer/water maintinance team's duties | Nov 06 10:07 |
| scientes | et cetera | Nov 06 10:07 |
| scientes | the law is completely irrelevent | Nov 06 10:07 |
| oiaohm | scientes: https://villagetelco.org/ comes to mind when you say free phone service. | Nov 06 10:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-villagetelco.org | Village Telco | Nov 06 10:08 | |
| oiaohm | Techically the village telco avoids the long runs of copper. | Nov 06 10:08 |
| scientes | years ago you already saw prices of ASDL drop way low | Nov 06 10:08 |
| scientes | because people wanted the faster DOCSIS connections | Nov 06 10:08 |
| oiaohm | Long runs of copper that normal old phone system has does have major risks of induction from lightning. | Nov 06 10:08 |
| scientes | the only way for that equitment to not just fail due to disrepair is to give it to the local utilities | Nov 06 10:09 |
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| scientes | and dissolve all those AT&T assets | Nov 06 10:09 |
| scientes | and then launch a free software/open hardware ecosyste | Nov 06 10:09 |
| oiaohm | Heck even 100 Meter T-Base you shou7ld be added lightning protection. | Nov 06 10:09 |
| scientes | or ASDL/dial-up/phone-to-SIP gateways | Nov 06 10:09 |
| scientes | and now that you mention it, maybe even 100-base-t, but that is not critical | Nov 06 10:09 |
| scientes | get the other stuff working first, that we know works | Nov 06 10:10 |
| scientes | its also pretty cool, because it would provide a framework for pushing back against mass survainance | Nov 06 10:11 |
| scientes | as you could just call people's wired phones | Nov 06 10:11 |
| scientes | the AT&T monopoly makes these things horrible traps for bill cramming | Nov 06 10:12 |
| scientes | because they are trying to push you onto the systems that they control more | Nov 06 10:12 |
| scientes | mobile | Nov 06 10:12 |
| scientes | as mobile is the ONLY realm in the US that you don't get bill crammed | Nov 06 10:12 |
| scientes | it is so fucking corrupt | Nov 06 10:12 |
| oiaohm | villagetelco is using thing called mesh potato to make a wifi based mesh network. | Nov 06 10:13 |
| scientes | yeah, but the lower-tech stuff works | Nov 06 10:14 |
| scientes | the problem is that you have to sieze it from the AT&T mafiaa | Nov 06 10:14 |
| oiaohm | That avoids long cable.s | Nov 06 10:14 |
| oiaohm | Once you start running long cables then you start having to have stuff certified for valid safety reasons. | Nov 06 10:14 |
| oiaohm | In most countries. | Nov 06 10:15 |
| scientes | but those wires are already there! | Nov 06 10:15 |
| oiaohm | Yes but the hardware connect to them need to be lighting safe. | Nov 06 10:15 |
| scientes | these companies are so corrupt that they don't deserve to exist | Nov 06 10:15 |
| oiaohm | and maintained. | Nov 06 10:15 |
| scientes | and it totally fascist too | Nov 06 10:15 |
| scientes | there is no seperation between the government and the companies they are suppose to be regulating | Nov 06 10:15 |
| oiaohm | yes phone companies can valid be ass. | Nov 06 10:15 |
| scientes | but my point remains: the equitment is obsolete | Nov 06 10:16 |
| oiaohm | but its really simple to overlook the yearly cost in hardware replacement they have to. | Nov 06 10:16 |
| scientes | and the ONLY way to keep it maintained is to give it to the local utilities | Nov 06 10:16 |
| scientes | the companies have no interest in maintaining it | Nov 06 10:16 |
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| scientes | and you can't pay people enough for them to have interest in engineering obsolete technology | Nov 06 10:16 |
| oiaohm | If they don 't do maintaince over time lightning will take the hardware apart | Nov 06 10:16 |
| scientes | only free software can develop that interest | Nov 06 10:16 |
| oiaohm | using long copper. | Nov 06 10:17 |
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| scientes | seriously | Nov 06 10:17 |
| scientes | you can't pay people enough to make them care | Nov 06 10:17 |
| scientes | and there is no reason to make money when the entire economy is so corrupt | Nov 06 10:17 |
| oiaohm | One of the most stupid things is lightning manages to screw up fiber optical glass cables as well. | Nov 06 10:17 |
| scientes | I lived that way for decades | Nov 06 10:17 |
| scientes | there was no reason to earn money in the "1st" world | Nov 06 10:17 |
| oiaohm | Long cables lightning is really not your friend. | Nov 06 10:17 |
| scientes | it is simply too corrupt to be worth having money | Nov 06 10:18 |
| scientes | it is a waste of time to have money | Nov 06 10:18 |
| oiaohm | So cost effective phone system for a village or equal is most likely best something radio. | Nov 06 10:18 |
| scientes | and the young generation has figured this out | Nov 06 10:18 |
| oiaohm | Low maintenance that route. | Nov 06 10:18 |
| scientes | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFyEa8gWopY | Nov 06 10:19 |
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| scientes | I think they threw this guy in prison | Nov 06 10:19 |
| scientes | because he makes the globalists look bad | Nov 06 10:19 |
| oiaohm | Really that is a stupid thing. | Nov 06 10:19 |
| oiaohm | Remember give a person a loaf of bread feed them for a day. Teach them to make bread feed them for a life time. This is a old saying. | Nov 06 10:20 |
| scientes | oiaohm, until you over-fish | Nov 06 10:20 |
| scientes | give a man a fish, that man now knows where to find fish :) | Nov 06 10:21 |
| scientes | teach a man to fish, you just destroyed your market base :) | Nov 06 10:21 |
| oiaohm | So throwing money at the poor uncontrolled very rarely does anything good because they normally don't have the knowledge to take advantage of it. | Nov 06 10:21 |
| scientes | oiaohm, you are totally missing the point | Nov 06 10:21 |
| oiaohm | Repeatly giving a poor person a fish who can never pay will never make you any profit either. | Nov 06 10:22 |
| scientes | oiaohm, yeah, but the globalists constantly make that mistake | Nov 06 10:22 |
| scientes | over and over and over again | Nov 06 10:22 |
| scientes | not in the "1st world", but I saw it enough times in Peru to make me sick | Nov 06 10:22 |
| scientes | as is said "you can't juice a turnip", but that doesn't mean they don't try | Nov 06 10:22 |
| oiaohm | Also giving a person a fish who does not know how to prep it properly can be way to kill them. | Nov 06 10:22 |
| oiaohm | The importance of any aid is that it comes with knowledge. | Nov 06 10:23 |
| oiaohm | If you give a person a fish and teach them how to cook it properly they may buy more fish because they are selling the cooked product. | Nov 06 10:23 |
| scientes | I am sure XRevan86 has seen some juicing of turnips | Nov 06 10:24 |
| oiaohm | scientes: https://www.stylecraze.com/articles/amazing-benefits-of-turnip-juice/ << Yep people do juice turnips. | Nov 06 10:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.stylecraze.com | 19 Amazing Benefits of Turnip Juice | Nov 06 10:25 | |
| scientes | although in Russia in the 90s this often came at the expensive of people's ability to feed themselves, IIUI | Nov 06 10:25 |
| scientes | so it has a bitter taste | Nov 06 10:25 |
| scientes | IIUC | Nov 06 10:25 |
| scientes | > In Turkey, Turnip juice is the national drink. | Nov 06 10:25 |
| scientes | hmmm, I need to taste that, because that is the idiom | Nov 06 10:26 |
| oiaohm | That turns out not to be true | Nov 06 10:26 |
| scientes | https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/you+can%27t+squeeze+blood+from+a+turnip | Nov 06 10:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-idioms.thefreedictionary.com | You can't squeeze blood from a turnip - Idioms by The Free Dictionary | Nov 06 10:26 | |
| oiaohm | The blood bit. | Nov 06 10:27 |
| oiaohm | Turnip juice is one of the items that help to provide what you body needs to recover from blood loss. | Nov 06 10:27 |
| *scientes needs to try turnip juice | Nov 06 10:27 | |
| scientes | oiaohm, ahhh, so it has iron? | Nov 06 10:28 |
| oiaohm | No | Nov 06 10:28 |
| oiaohm | I said one. | Nov 06 10:28 |
| oiaohm | Other parts of the blood not the red cells. | Nov 06 10:28 |
| scientes | spinach is the iron supplament | Nov 06 10:28 |
| oiaohm | https://www.dailyiron.net/turnips/ are not absolute horrible on iron content. | Nov 06 10:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailyiron.net | Iron Content of Turnips | Daily Iron | Nov 06 10:29 | |
| oiaohm | spinach is 0.8mg iron and the raw Turnips are 0.6mg The juice is higher than raw spinach. Both are really badly short on when you need a quick shot of iron to recover from red blood cell loss. | Nov 06 10:32 |
| oiaohm | Turnips are higher in other parts your body need to replace the white part the immune cells. | Nov 06 10:32 |
| oiaohm | Of course after blood loss you are going to have lost quite a few of them as well. | Nov 06 10:33 |
| scientes | oiaohm, when I was in La Paz I was eating a hamburger a day to put on blood | Nov 06 10:33 |
| scientes | not because of any loss, but just due to high altitude | Nov 06 10:34 |
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| scientes | you can't make cyanocobalmin | Nov 06 10:35 |
| scientes | which contains cobalt | Nov 06 10:35 |
| scientes | you have to eat it | Nov 06 10:35 |
| scientes | > The only organisms to produce vitamin B12 are certain bacteria and archaea. | Nov 06 10:36 |
| scientes | > Bacteria are found on plants that herbivores eat; they are taken into the animals' digestive system, proliferate and form part of their permanent gut flora, producing vitamin B12 internally.[2] | Nov 06 10:37 |
| scientes | > | Nov 06 10:39 |
| scientes | The neurologic symptoms of vitamin B12 deficiency include numbness and tingling of the hands and, more commonly, the feet; difficulty walking; memory loss; disorientation; and dementia with or without mood changes. Although the progression of neurologic complications is generally gradual, such symptoms may not be reversed with treatment of vitamin B12 deficiency, especially if they have been present for a long time. | Nov 06 10:39 |
| oiaohm | Not quite. https://academic.oup.com/jn/article-abstract/67/4/623/4775595 Turnip is one fo these wacky plants. Grown in some areas it has B12 grown in others it does not. | Nov 06 10:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-academic.oup.com | Studies of Vitamin B12 in Turnip Greens | The Journal of Nutrition | Oxford Academic | Nov 06 10:39 | |
| oiaohm | So where you Turnip comes from is important. | Nov 06 10:40 |
| scientes | https://web.archive.org/web/20191029030049/https://lpi.oregonstate.edu/mic/vitamins/vitamin-B12 | Nov 06 10:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Vitamin B12 | Linus Pauling Institute | Oregon State University | Nov 06 10:42 | |
| scientes | table 2 \ | Nov 06 10:42 |
| scientes | clams have insane levels of b12 (Cobalt) | Nov 06 10:42 |
| scientes | i bet that chicken only have very low levels cause it is one of those holocaust-condition chickens | Nov 06 10:44 |
| scientes | I ate an egg the other day that had feathers on it | Nov 06 10:44 |
| scientes | you can't but eggs like that in "1st world" countries | Nov 06 10:44 |
| oiaohm | Lot of plant base B12 is highly variable between zero to insane amounts not based on DNA but based on where it grown and with what microbies.. | Nov 06 10:46 |
| scientes | yes | Nov 06 10:47 |
| scientes | that is why they stopped measuring nutients of vegatables in the US and elsewhere | Nov 06 10:47 |
| scientes | because they didn't want any evidence that capital goods could be of varying quality | Nov 06 10:47 |
| scientes | anything that could disrupt the operations of the globalists | Nov 06 10:47 |
| oiaohm | Its more complex than that. | Nov 06 10:48 |
| scientes | but they use to have lots of statistics | Nov 06 10:48 |
| scientes | and now you are only suppose to use the "reference" numbers | Nov 06 10:48 |
| scientes | which are non-sense for carrots for example | Nov 06 10:48 |
| oiaohm | You can go from insane B12 to none from 2 plants 1 foot part. | Nov 06 10:48 |
| oiaohm | So you cannot just test sample from a properity and make a base line either. | Nov 06 10:49 |
| scientes | https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.wsimag.com%2Fattachments%2F84f4f8582179f0659c6530a846ec95c4e11d697b%2Fstore%2Ffill%2F860%2F645%2F450d18e62d7ad613ec450bdea24317a2efb8dd3769cbf70a873fd47d8c80%2FPurple-Carrot.jpg&f=1&nofb=1 | Nov 06 10:49 |
| scientes | why did they switch to orange? | Nov 06 10:49 |
| scientes | because the purple look too much like turnips? | Nov 06 10:50 |
| oiaohm | Its stupid political https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/carrots-are-orange-for-an-entirely-political-reason/2011/09/09/gIQAfayiFK_blog.html | Nov 06 10:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | Are carrots orange for political reasons? - The Washington Post | Nov 06 10:51 | |
| oiaohm | Carrots did not swap to orange people way back in history orange was one of the many colors of carrots that existed. Then it got policial and the other carrot types dropped out for favour. | Nov 06 10:51 |
| scientes | After forcing the reigning descendent of William of Orange to leave the Hague, the Patriots declared that orange was “the color of sedition...carrots sold with their roots too conspicuously showing were deemed provocative,” | Nov 06 10:52 |
| scientes | that is friggen awesome | Nov 06 10:52 |
| scientes | those sexy root vegatables OOOO | Nov 06 10:53 |
| oiaohm | Of course some parties kept on growing the other carrorts and this is why we have historic seed sellers still able to provide them. | Nov 06 10:54 |
| scientes | http://www.carrotmuseum.co.uk/history.html | Nov 06 10:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.carrotmuseum.co.uk | History of Carrots - A brief summary and timeline | Nov 06 10:54 | |
| scientes | look how they are all thick carrots | Nov 06 10:54 |
| scientes | the long and slender carrots must have come later | Nov 06 10:54 |
| scientes | http://www.carrotmuseum.co.uk/history5.html | Nov 06 10:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.carrotmuseum.co.uk | Carrots - The Road to Domestication and the Colour orange | Nov 06 10:55 | |
| scientes | ooo colors | Nov 06 10:55 |
| scientes | > The commonly accepted reason why the ancients preferred orange and yellow carrots over the prevailing purple was because the purple turned the cooking utensils purple and the cooking water a muddy colour. This is because the pigment in orange carrots is fat soluble, whereas the purple is water soluble. Apparently historic humans just liked the way yellow and orange carrots looked and cooked better than purple ones. Is it possible that this | Nov 06 10:56 |
| scientes | is one question best answered by people, rather than the genetic research into carrots. (examples of art work here) | Nov 06 10:56 |
| scientes | wow http://www.carrotmuseum.co.uk/art1.html | Nov 06 10:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.carrotmuseum.co.uk | Carrots depicted in Fine Art Works | Nov 06 10:56 | |
| scientes | beautiful dutch paintings | Nov 06 10:56 |
| scientes | this stuff is fascinating! | Nov 06 10:57 |
| oiaohm | Notice most of that art work is the orange ones. | Nov 06 10:57 |
| oiaohm | So if you are rich never seen a carrot before and had seen the art you would be expecting orange right. | Nov 06 10:58 |
| oiaohm | This is where the policial comes into it. | Nov 06 10:58 |
| oiaohm | then you have disease resistance breeding on top the politiical. | Nov 06 10:58 |
| scientes | http://www.carrotmuseum.co.uk/art/vashootlager.jpg | Nov 06 10:59 |
| oiaohm | Welcome todays age of mostly booring carrot colours. | Nov 06 10:59 |
| scientes | oh that dutch golden age | Nov 06 10:59 |
| scientes | oiaohm, purple is probably most expensive paint too | Nov 06 10:59 |
| scientes | not as expensive as cobalt blue, but expensive | Nov 06 10:59 |
| oiaohm | Yep that the other part of the proble, | Nov 06 11:00 |
| oiaohm | People don't think of the fact that some of those old paintings were very fancy versions of merchant signs. | Nov 06 11:01 |
| oiaohm | Of course costs on making the signs has effected our products. | Nov 06 11:01 |
| oiaohm | I have a lemon variety I like. One catch the fruit shape is round. | Nov 06 11:02 |
| scientes | oiaohm, https://imgur.com/a/RBdOv04 | Nov 06 11:02 |
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| oiaohm | Of course if you try to sell a perfectly round lemon most people don't want to buy it. | Nov 06 11:02 |
| scientes | oiaohm, valencia lemons are perfectly round | Nov 06 11:03 |
| scientes | they are also much tastier than that store-bought sthit | Nov 06 11:03 |
| oiaohm | Exactly. | Nov 06 11:03 |
| scientes | although here in Georgia it works different | Nov 06 11:03 |
| scientes | so I don't even know how it works in "developed" countries | Nov 06 11:03 |
| oiaohm | I have a non grafted Valencia lemon growing basically bonsai in a 100L pot | Nov 06 11:04 |
| oiaohm | Every year I saw of 1/3 of its roots. | Nov 06 11:04 |
| oiaohm | of/off | Nov 06 11:04 |
| scientes | what is the limit of x/3 ? | Nov 06 11:05 |
| oiaohm | That tree has been passed down 4 generations now. | Nov 06 11:05 |
| scientes | (2/3)x | Nov 06 11:05 |
| scientes | as x approaches infinity | Nov 06 11:05 |
| oiaohm | Every year its regrown the roots and refilled the pot. | Nov 06 11:06 |
| scientes | i know but i am being a smart-ass | Nov 06 11:06 |
| oiaohm | Its over 100 year old tree and crops every year. | Nov 06 11:06 |
| scientes | last supper carrot http://www.carrotmuseum.co.uk/art/stavronlge.jpg | Nov 06 11:07 |
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| scientes | oh, horseraddish | Nov 06 11:07 |
| oiaohm | That the other thing being a closer color to horseraddish helped some areas that did not have historic carrots to try carrots. | Nov 06 11:09 |
| oiaohm | Lot of our historic food choices are not based on what are good for us. | Nov 06 11:10 |
| oiaohm | More based on political and what was fashionable. | Nov 06 11:10 |
| oiaohm | scientes: I have 3 citrus bonsai. Lemon, Lime and Blood Orange, | Nov 06 11:12 |
| oiaohm | And they do cause a yearly work out. | Nov 06 11:12 |
| scientes | the valencia lemon is by far the tasiest | Nov 06 11:12 |
| oiaohm | The lime is Kaffir lime | Nov 06 11:13 |
| oiaohm | So the leaves and fruit are usable. | Nov 06 11:13 |
| scientes | oiaohm, you know what the word means right? | Nov 06 11:13 |
| scientes | oh nvm | Nov 06 11:14 |
| scientes | guess it appears in a number of languages | Nov 06 11:14 |
| scientes | and I wasn't even thinking of the south african slur.... | Nov 06 11:15 |
| scientes | I was thinking of the arabic slur | Nov 06 11:15 |
| oiaohm | Problem I have call it "makrut lime" and most people don't know it. | Nov 06 11:16 |
| scientes | I don't think i have had that | Nov 06 11:16 |
| scientes | very small | Nov 06 11:16 |
| oiaohm | Makrut line and Kaffir lime is exactly the same thing. | Nov 06 11:17 |
| oiaohm | line/lime | Nov 06 11:17 |
| scientes | or maybe | Nov 06 11:17 |
| scientes | there is only one common lime I have had | Nov 06 11:17 |
| scientes | and then there is that artificial lime they use on doritos, which is completely different | Nov 06 11:17 |
| oiaohm | Kaffir lime name is that old we don't even know where it comes. It predates the slur usage. | Nov 06 11:17 |
| scientes | i was thinking the arabic word | Nov 06 11:17 |
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| scientes | which is similar to infidel | Nov 06 11:18 |
| oiaohm | Its pre appearing in arabic its appears in asian languages first. | Nov 06 11:18 |
| oiaohm | Is old. | Nov 06 11:18 |
| scientes | but more like unlawful | Nov 06 11:18 |
| oiaohm | Nicked is close | Nov 06 11:19 |
| oiaohm | It was that good people would nick it basically. | Nov 06 11:19 |
| oiaohm | Kaffir lime is your common rough skinned lime. | Nov 06 11:20 |
| oiaohm | Lot of markets the smooth skin limes are more common because you can pack more per box. | Nov 06 11:21 |
| oiaohm | also don't taste as good. | Nov 06 11:21 |
| oiaohm | scientes: smooth skin limes there are about 7 common different sold that look basically identical. | Nov 06 11:29 |
| oiaohm | Lot of people have eaten a lot more different citrus than they think. | Nov 06 11:29 |
| scientes | I like the small little oranges | Nov 06 11:30 |
| scientes | the tiny ones | Nov 06 11:30 |
| scientes | i don't think they are oranges | Nov 06 11:30 |
| scientes | the ones where you eat the whole thing | Nov 06 11:30 |
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| scientes | apartment 512Gb is only $5 | Nov 06 11:40 |
| scientes | so why is there so much money in putting it in a case? | Nov 06 11:40 |
| scientes | the microSD card prices are pretty good | Nov 06 11:41 |
| scientes | > Fake 256GB SD Card, real capacity=32GB,everything written past 32 is unreadable | Nov 06 11:52 |
| scientes | ok, as expected | Nov 06 11:52 |
| scientes | that is the problem with microSD | Nov 06 11:53 |
| scientes | also, why did 1tb+ sd cards never come out? | Nov 06 11:55 |
| scientes | yeah, the price is the same as SSDs and SSD have better quality | Nov 06 11:57 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Massachusetts passes ‘right to repair’ law to open up car data • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144079 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ed3a5ba7-5134-4b31-8fc2-c2cb44f2e1e0] | Nov 06 12:02 | |
| oiaohm | scientes: quite a few you can eat hole. The one I like the most for eating Australian native sunrise lime. Only one problem I have a really early Cirso cultivar. So the bugger has 1.5 inch thorns. | Nov 06 12:04 |
| oiaohm | So fruit nice but the avoid the thorns is time consuming. | Nov 06 12:05 |
| oiaohm | scientes: You might be thinking of cumquat | Nov 06 12:06 |
| scientes | ahh yes | Nov 06 12:06 |
| scientes | cumquats are tasty | Nov 06 12:06 |
| scientes | its because they are cold-hardy | Nov 06 12:06 |
| oiaohm | Australian Sunrise Lime is a hybrid of the finger lime and a calamondin (cross between a mandarin and cumquat) << The CSIRO cross. | Nov 06 12:07 |
| oiaohm | Getting a early cultivar you get them for free. | Nov 06 12:07 |
| oiaohm | Of course you run a risk of a few problems. Like 1.5 inch thorns. | Nov 06 12:07 |
| scientes | > inch | Nov 06 12:08 |
| scientes | i thought australia used the metric system? | Nov 06 12:08 |
| oiaohm | We should but we still have to know imperial for pipe work. | Nov 06 12:08 |
| scientes | pipes here are all metric | Nov 06 12:09 |
| oiaohm | we have some pipes that are metric we have some pipes that are imperial. | Nov 06 12:09 |
| oiaohm | Also we have screws like in imperal and bolts in metric | Nov 06 12:09 |
| oiaohm | and other stupid things like that. | Nov 06 12:09 |
| scientes | nice | Nov 06 12:10 |
| scientes | frakenscrews | Nov 06 12:10 |
| scientes | in the US you end up building a house with half-imperial and half-metric lumber | Nov 06 12:11 |
| scientes | happens all the time | Nov 06 12:11 |
| scientes | its only 2% different | Nov 06 12:11 |
| scientes | actually a little bit more as it is the pre-finish size | Nov 06 12:11 |
| oiaohm | We have a parallel imports laws. | Nov 06 12:12 |
| scientes | the US applies a massive tariff on canadian lumber | Nov 06 12:12 |
| oiaohm | It does not help that 2x4 is not it measurement. | Nov 06 12:12 |
| scientes | 2"x4" pre-finish | Nov 06 12:12 |
| scientes | so like 1.5"x3.5" | Nov 06 12:12 |
| scientes | and then the metric version of that | Nov 06 12:12 |
| scientes | where 2.54==1" | Nov 06 12:12 |
| scientes | except its 2.4~==1" | Nov 06 12:12 |
| oiaohm | Metric mesurements here are what it is. | Nov 06 12:12 |
| scientes | *2.5~=1" | Nov 06 12:13 |
| scientes | yeah, its a little smaller | Nov 06 12:13 |
| oiaohm | So you normally avoid imperial timber like the plague. | Nov 06 12:13 |
| scientes | but US lumber is actually in imperial | Nov 06 12:13 |
| scientes | in the US you just build your house with half-and-half and call it good | Nov 06 12:13 |
| oiaohm | A 2x4 in Australia can be like 8 different sizes. | Nov 06 12:13 |
| oiaohm | Here you avoid imperial timber. | Nov 06 12:14 |
| scientes | so what are the names? | Nov 06 12:14 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Dell Adds Hardware Privacy Drivers to Linux Kernel • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144078 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d0c61a7c-0056-4284-85aa-f02d70d4a277] | Nov 06 12:14 | |
| scientes | are they not still imperial names? | Nov 06 12:14 |
| scientes | canadian lumber is metric with imperial names | Nov 06 12:14 |
| oiaohm | imperial names means made in a saw mil here using imperial mesurements and they don't have uniform finishing cut down values. | Nov 06 12:15 |
| scientes | hmm, canadian is very conformist as the lumber industry is tightly tied to the government | Nov 06 12:15 |
| scientes | except for those high US tariffs | Nov 06 12:15 |
| oiaohm | Metric is the newer big mills in Australia. | Nov 06 12:16 |
| oiaohm | The imperial can be like your personal portable mils that may not be perfectly calibrated as well. | Nov 06 12:16 |
| oiaohm | So basically imperial timber here equals do you fell lucky. | Nov 06 12:16 |
| scientes | does Australia even have much timber? | Nov 06 12:17 |
| scientes | I thought it was mostly dessert | Nov 06 12:17 |
| scientes | and New Zealand would have more lumber | Nov 06 12:17 |
| oiaohm | You are forgoting Australia is roughly the size of the USA mainland. | Nov 06 12:17 |
| scientes | huh, another case of the brits stealing dutch colonies | Nov 06 12:18 |
| scientes | except they forgot to rename that one | Nov 06 12:18 |
| scientes | oiaohm, except far less biodiverse | Nov 06 12:18 |
| oiaohm | New Zealand total land area is about 1/20 of Australian forests. | Nov 06 12:18 |
| scientes | yes, I know Australia is huge | Nov 06 12:18 |
| oiaohm | Yes desert is the dominate thing but that does not mean we have small useless amount of forest. | Nov 06 12:19 |
| oiaohm | Items like bluegum forest are really fast regrowth. | Nov 06 12:20 |
| oiaohm | Fun timber to work with. | Nov 06 12:20 |
| scientes | eucalyptus | Nov 06 12:20 |
| scientes | considered a weed in california | Nov 06 12:20 |
| scientes | quite prone to fine because of the bark | Nov 06 12:21 |
| scientes | *fire | Nov 06 12:21 |
| scientes | https://web.archive.org/web/20160127214859/https://www.sandisk.com/home/memory-cards/sd-cards/extremepro-sd-uhs-i | Nov 06 12:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | SanDisk Extreme PRO SDHC/SDXC UHS-I Memory Card | Nov 06 12:26 | |
| scientes | x-ray proof | Nov 06 12:26 |
| scientes | oh, that is why they have you put your laptop seperate at the airport | Nov 06 12:26 |
| scientes | because they were erasing people's data | Nov 06 12:26 |
| oiaohm | remember eucalyptus is native trees here. | Nov 06 12:26 |
| scientes | ahh, that makes a difference | Nov 06 12:27 |
| oiaohm | Pine forest as canabara Australia found out could make eucalyptus look like a minor proble, | Nov 06 12:27 |
| oiaohm | problem. | Nov 06 12:27 |
| scientes | bamboo | Nov 06 12:27 |
| scientes | horrible stuff | Nov 06 12:27 |
| scientes | bamboo==evil | Nov 06 12:28 |
| oiaohm | Bamboo is less of a fire hazard than a poorly maintained pine forest. | Nov 06 12:28 |
| scientes | yeah but it has zero biodiversity | Nov 06 12:28 |
| scientes | and it spreads like cancer | Nov 06 12:28 |
| oiaohm | Not exactly true. | Nov 06 12:28 |
| scientes | OK bamboo+pandas | Nov 06 12:28 |
| scientes | two species | Nov 06 12:28 |
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| oiaohm | I have worked on a properity with over 2000 versions of bamboo. | Nov 06 12:29 |
| scientes | two completely worthless species | Nov 06 12:29 |
| oiaohm | Quite afew Australian natives love eating it. | Nov 06 12:29 |
| oiaohm | So depends where. | Nov 06 12:29 |
| scientes | the world would be much better off without pandas | Nov 06 12:29 |
| oiaohm | Kangaroos eat off the young shoots of bamboo. | Nov 06 12:29 |
| scientes | all the endangered cats are way more interesting than those lame pandas | Nov 06 12:30 |
| scientes | they an do things besides eat | Nov 06 12:30 |
| oiaohm | I would guess bamboo growing in Australia has more biodervisity than anywhere else. | Nov 06 12:30 |
| schestowitz | you can keep both | Nov 06 12:30 |
| schestowitz | just keep humans from expansion to every place and mining the rest | Nov 06 12:30 |
| oiaohm | Lot of Australian small rodent class creatures like it. That then means really dangerous Australian snakes like it. | Nov 06 12:31 |
| scientes | I think the chinese like pandas because its like the concept of that place where you do nothing but eat to your hearts content | Nov 06 12:32 |
| oiaohm | Australia is not exactly a place where you like areas of high biodiversity as a human. As it normally equals area with highly toxic stuff. | Nov 06 12:32 |
| scientes | china will invade australia if they don't drill all the way to the center of the earth | Nov 06 12:33 |
| oiaohm | If you look at plants and think Australian soliders are trained to use them. Invading Australia by force is a really bad idea. | Nov 06 12:34 |
| scientes | god damn, I can't find that name of the heaven where you eat and eat and eat | Nov 06 12:35 |
| oiaohm | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dendrocnide_moroides who need torturer's. | Nov 06 12:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Dendrocnide moroides - Wikipedia | Nov 06 12:35 | |
| scientes | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cockaigne | Nov 06 12:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Cockaigne - Wikipedia | Nov 06 12:37 | |
| scientes | Specifically, in poems like The Land of Cockaigne, it is a land of contraries, where all the restrictions of society are defied (abbots beaten by their monks), sexual liberty is open (nuns flipped over to show their bottoms), and food is plentiful (skies that rain cheese). | Nov 06 12:37 |
| scientes | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Land_of_Cockaigne_(Bruegel)#/media/File:Pieter_Bruegel_d._%C3%84._037.jpg | Nov 06 12:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | The Land of Cockaigne (Bruegel) - Wikipedia | Nov 06 12:38 | |
| oiaohm | There are some very creative toxic things in Australia like water that if you don't know what it is you will keep on feeling thirsty and die from excess hydration. | Nov 06 12:38 |
| scientes | oiaohm, there is a cool machine that makes chlorine from salt | Nov 06 12:39 |
| oiaohm | This is spring water. | Nov 06 12:40 |
| oiaohm | In particular areas. | Nov 06 12:40 |
| oiaohm | So no machinary required. This is the problem with invading Australia there are stacks of different 100 percent natural weapons. | Nov 06 12:41 |
| scientes | these things are overpriced however | Nov 06 12:41 |
| scientes | https://www.amazon.com/Pentair-520555-IntelliChlor-Chlorine-Generator/dp/B004VU89XA/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=chlorine%2Bgenerator&sr=8-3&th=1 | Nov 06 12:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Amazon.com: Pentair 521105 IntelliChlor IC60 Salt Chlorine Generator Cell (US Version): Garden & Outdoor | Nov 06 12:41 | |
| scientes | https://www.amazon.com/Aqua-Research-Global-Water-Purifier/dp/B07HHNSLS1/ | Nov 06 12:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Amazon.com : Aqua Research H2gO Global Water Disinfectant Generator : Sports & Outdoors | Nov 06 12:43 | |
| scientes | shows that the pool ones are over-priced | Nov 06 12:43 |
| scientes | but these one's are designed so that you cannot replace the over-priced units with it | Nov 06 12:43 |
| scientes | but I have one of these and they are pretty handy | Nov 06 12:44 |
| scientes | means you can drink that jungle water | Nov 06 12:44 |
| scientes | as long as it doesn't have heavy metals | Nov 06 12:44 |
| oiaohm | Or any of the chemicals that will cause you to over drink water. | Nov 06 12:45 |
| oiaohm | As chlorine does not alter those chemicals. | Nov 06 12:45 |
| oiaohm | It is correct that the pool ones are expensive its also fiarly cheap to make a uncontrolled chlorine generator. | Nov 06 12:46 |
| oiaohm | Note the key difference is is controled vs uncontrolled. | Nov 06 12:46 |
| oiaohm | There is such thing as making way way too much chlorine. | Nov 06 12:46 |
| scientes | yeah but that $100 one is controlled | Nov 06 12:46 |
| oiaohm | No that cheaper one is not controlled. You set the amount you need for the number of L and it generates. | Nov 06 12:48 |
| oiaohm | So yes you can screw that up badly. | Nov 06 12:48 |
| scientes | it generates exactly the amount you ask for | Nov 06 12:48 |
| oiaohm | The pool one is monitoring and calculating how much to add. | Nov 06 12:48 |
| scientes | not less and not more | Nov 06 12:49 |
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| oiaohm | So not based on X number of L but on flow rate. | Nov 06 12:49 |
| scientes | (it will tell you if you do not have enough salt to do it) | Nov 06 12:49 |
| scientes | it works very well | Nov 06 12:49 |
| oiaohm | There is quite a lot more complex monitoring stuff in the pool version. | Nov 06 12:49 |
| scientes | yeah, but it does measure the salt molarity | Nov 06 12:50 |
| oiaohm | Its not the generator that is that expensive. | Nov 06 12:50 |
| oiaohm | And the current chloorine level. | Nov 06 12:50 |
| scientes | probably only the electrical conduction | Nov 06 12:50 |
| scientes | well I tell you that think works well | Nov 06 12:50 |
| oiaohm | and if it should be apply electricity to convert the salt or not. | Nov 06 12:50 |
| scientes | and given that chroline has a distinct smell, I think you won't screw it up bad | Nov 06 12:50 |
| scientes | you can get a sense of the concentration just by the smell | Nov 06 12:51 |
| scientes | that thing is awesome | Nov 06 12:51 |
| scientes | and very portable | Nov 06 12:51 |
| scientes | and it works were all the other purifier do not | Nov 06 12:51 |
| oiaohm | scientes: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.3109/15563659509028921 Pool ones are a little more dangorous. | Nov 06 12:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tandfonline.com | | Nov 06 12:52 | |
| oiaohm | As in if they run a much hello explosion. | Nov 06 12:52 |
| scientes | except for cases where only distillation only works | Nov 06 12:52 |
| oiaohm | much/muck | Nov 06 12:52 |
| scientes | yeah, but this one is only operated by human | Nov 06 12:52 |
| scientes | so you do not have that runaway concentration problem | Nov 06 12:52 |
| oiaohm | No the automated pool ones can screw up as well. | Nov 06 12:52 |
| oiaohm | Reason why the need to be checked. | Nov 06 12:53 |
| scientes | yeah, but this dods not have that problem | Nov 06 12:53 |
| scientes | as it is human operated | Nov 06 12:53 |
| oiaohm | and reason why you don't want cheaply built. | Nov 06 12:53 |
| scientes | anyways, people that think they need their own pools are the problem | Nov 06 12:53 |
| scientes | not the other way around | Nov 06 12:54 |
| oiaohm | Remember to make the salt to chroline you are performing a form of electrolysis. Of course if that goes wrong you can split the water and have pockets of hydrogen and oxgen. Add a spark out. | Nov 06 12:54 |
| oiaohm | out/ouch | Nov 06 12:54 |
| oiaohm | So they are a device that better be made right. | Nov 06 12:54 |
| scientes | that is something I would always prefer to have a public pool maintainer handle | Nov 06 12:54 |
| scientes | also only way to swim in an olympic pool | Nov 06 12:55 |
| oiaohm | I have seen public pool have their salt based chroline system explode. | Nov 06 12:55 |
| scientes | as the shorter ones are way less easy to excercise in | Nov 06 12:55 |
| oiaohm | There is a reason why a Lot of public pools add chroline as chroline not as salt and convert. | Nov 06 12:55 |
| oiaohm | Salt and convert little bit of incorrect mantance hello big boom. | Nov 06 12:56 |
| oiaohm | Its not exactly that the pool devices are over priced. They are not the simplest to make safely. | Nov 06 12:57 |
| oiaohm | Of course not being simple to make safe means limited competition as quite a few new vendors end up out the game in a year or two due to screwing it up. | Nov 06 12:58 |
| scientes | oh geeze | Nov 06 12:59 |
| scientes | another borat film | Nov 06 12:59 |
| scientes | that has absolutely nothing to do with Kazakstan | Nov 06 12:59 |
| scientes | and this time it can't make tourism to Kazakstan go up | Nov 06 12:59 |
| scientes | so maybe they will actually show their anger | Nov 06 12:59 |
| scientes | at something that is pretty insulting | Nov 06 13:00 |
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| scientes | hmm, transmissiong doesn't have a "download first first" option | Nov 06 13:08 |
| scientes | annoying | Nov 06 13:08 |
| scientes | yeah, this movie is boring | Nov 06 13:25 |
| scientes | it is the exact same script of the last movie, and of steven colbert | Nov 06 13:27 |
| scientes | which is just a last ditch effort to generate press for the pyramid scheme | Nov 06 13:28 |
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| scientes | • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 | Nov 06 14:04 |
| scientes | how does it get that font? | Nov 06 14:04 |
| scientes | some wierd-ass unicode shit? | Nov 06 14:04 |
| XRevan86 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraktur#Unicode yes | Nov 06 14:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Fraktur - Wikipedia | Nov 06 14:05 | |
| scientes | lame | Nov 06 14:05 |
| scientes | unicode isn't suppose to do that | Nov 06 14:06 |
| *scientes is tired of abuse of Unicode | Nov 06 14:06 | |
| XRevan86 | 𝔏𝔞𝔪𝔢 | Nov 06 14:06 |
| scientes | emoji, emoji, emoji | Nov 06 14:06 |
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| scientes | uggh, my x11 is tearing hard | Nov 06 14:07 |
| scientes | shitty drivers or something | Nov 06 14:08 |
| XRevan86 | 𝖉𝖊𝖛𝖊𝖑𝖔𝖕𝖊𝖗𝖘, 𝖉𝖊𝖛𝖊𝖑𝖔𝖕𝖊𝖗𝖘, 𝖉𝖊𝖛𝖊𝖑𝖔𝖕𝖊𝖗𝖘 | Nov 06 14:08 |
| scientes | another super rainy day in batumi | Nov 06 14:09 |
| scientes | I'm pretty sure I need a risc-v core just to support the usb stack on this FPGA which is super lame | Nov 06 14:09 |
| scientes | as it makes the build-debug cycle in the minutes | Nov 06 14:10 |
| scientes | I ordered an extender to take my m.2 port OUTSIDE my laptop | Nov 06 14:11 |
| scientes | threw the seam | Nov 06 14:11 |
| scientes | of the case | Nov 06 14:12 |
| scientes | yeah this damn thing is still bricked | Nov 06 14:16 |
| scientes | (it can be unbricked) | Nov 06 14:17 |
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| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/699868.jpg | Nov 06 16:33 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Beautiful. Is it fake? | Nov 06 16:37 |
| MinceR | dunno | Nov 06 16:37 |
| scientes | which one? | Nov 06 16:40 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: last one | Nov 06 16:56 |
| scientes | but there is iron in it | Nov 06 16:56 |
| scientes | or at least steal, which contains iron | Nov 06 16:57 |
| scientes | only his name is ironic | Nov 06 16:57 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/699632.jpg | Nov 06 16:59 |
| scientes | really, really, really, really big guitar picks | Nov 06 17:00 |
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| MinceR | or he's really, really, really, really small | Nov 06 17:01 |
| schestowitz | scientes: | Nov 06 17:12 |
| schestowitz | Circled (neg)🅣🅤🅧 🅜🅐🅒🅗🅘🅝🅔🅢 | Nov 06 17:12 |
| schestowitz | FullwidthＴｕｘ Ｍａｃｈｉｎｅｓ | Nov 06 17:12 |
| schestowitz | Math bold𝐓𝐮𝐱 𝐌𝐚𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐞𝐬 | Nov 06 17:12 |
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| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/699804.jpg | Nov 06 21:26 |
| schestowitz | pffff | Nov 06 21:26 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: meh | Nov 06 21:27 |
| schestowitz | shitty jokes | Nov 06 21:30 |
| schestowitz | looks like it's source from one of the 'chans | Nov 06 21:30 |
| schestowitz | *sourced | Nov 06 21:30 |
| XRevan86 | And not a single jumper cable. | Nov 06 21:31 |
| MinceR | :> | Nov 06 21:31 |
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| schestowitz | hi DaemonFC[m] | Nov 06 23:04 |
| schestowitz | how are you settling in? | Nov 06 23:04 |
| schestowitz | DaElf: hello | Nov 06 23:04 |
| DaElf | Sup Doc? | Nov 06 23:05 |
| schestowitz | wabbits | Nov 06 23:05 |
| MinceR | greetings, mortal | Nov 06 23:05 |
| DaElf | To be fair, I haven't logged into FreeNode in nearly two years intil I saw schestowitz post on Mastodon and at the bottom saw the IRC thingy and thought ... nooo. | Nov 06 23:07 |
| DaElf | But Yes. | Nov 06 23:07 |
| DaElf | Turned out I needed to set up a client on my phone anyway, so alls well that ends well. | Nov 06 23:08 |
| schestowitz | twitter is so much better | Nov 06 23:09 |
| schestowitz | you get banned | Nov 06 23:09 |
| schestowitz | and you see "trending" misinformation | Nov 06 23:09 |
| schestowitz | AND IT'S FREE! | Nov 06 23:10 |
| schestowitz | just published http://techrights.org/2020/11/06/contact-tracing-poem/ | Nov 06 23:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Contact-Tracing/Data-Trading Poem | Techrights | Nov 06 23:10 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Did I mention the library? | Nov 06 23:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I went there earlier and proceeded to the bookshelf and they demanded to see my license and I told them "Why? I'm just in a public library.". | Nov 06 23:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They said "We have to know everyone who comes in and out of here in case there's an issue with the Coronavirus.". | Nov 06 23:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I said, "No, I don't provide any information to those people.". | Nov 06 23:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And this black guy was a little too eager to make something racist of that and he says "Those people!?". | Nov 06 23:13 |
| schestowitz | license? | Nov 06 23:13 |
| schestowitz | what does it mean | Nov 06 23:13 |
| schestowitz | ? | Nov 06 23:13 |
| schestowitz | like driver's licence | Nov 06 23:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I said, "The goddamned health department. I don't want to be on their list. I don't want to be on any Coronavirus list. No thank you. Please validate my parking so that I may leave.". | Nov 06 23:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah. | Nov 06 23:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Driver's license. | Nov 06 23:14 |
| schestowitz | if they ask for your firstname and home number, fair enough | Nov 06 23:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So he goes "I'm not validating your parking unless you show me your ID.". | Nov 06 23:14 |
| schestowitz | they might even do it with pen and paper | Nov 06 23:14 |
| schestowitz | and not know your full name | Nov 06 23:14 |
| schestowitz | or just give them the landline number | Nov 06 23:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I said, "Well I'm not leaving until you validate it and if I was infected I will be in here breathing that much longer, so you may validate it or you may have me standing here longer, your choice, but you don't get to see my driver's license.". | Nov 06 23:15 |
| schestowitz | not entered into a digital device | Nov 06 23:15 |
| schestowitz | asking people to wear a mask is perfectly reasonable | Nov 06 23:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I said, "Or you can call the police. I'll wait. It'll take them half an hour to get down here and then not do anything, and I'll be in here breathing. Haven't done anything illegal.". | Nov 06 23:16 |
| schestowitz | demanding ID is not, unless you board a plane or did something illegal | Nov 06 23:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So he validated my parking because by that point the other lady was like "Just validate it so he'll leave.". | Nov 06 23:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This is 1984, Roy. | Nov 06 23:16 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/11/06/contact-tracing-poem/ | Nov 06 23:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I called the library and really let into them over that. | Nov 06 23:17 |
| schestowitz | this isn't 1983 | Nov 06 23:17 |
| schestowitz | it's poo | Nov 06 23:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Contact-Tracing/Data-Trading Poem | Techrights | Nov 06 23:17 | |
| schestowitz | *1984 | Nov 06 23:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I said, the fact that it escapes them means they need to read some of their own books. | Nov 06 23:17 |
| schestowitz | you should be able to read anonymously too | Nov 06 23:17 |
| schestowitz | at the library | Nov 06 23:17 |
| schestowitz | knowledge is "essential" | Nov 06 23:17 |
| schestowitz | almost like food is | Nov 06 23:17 |
| schestowitz | no conditions on access to literature | Nov 06 23:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, which is why I see nothing wrong with pirating books. You could read a copy from a library and they don't make more money than they do if you pirate it. | Nov 06 23:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But with the pirated copy, nobody knows you're the one reading it. | Nov 06 23:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So it's much better than Overdrive. | Nov 06 23:32 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: can you read a draft with me? | Nov 06 23:39 |
| schestowitz | it's about biden | Nov 06 23:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah. Sorry. Had to switch to the phone. The hotspot isn't so reliable. | Nov 06 23:43 |
| schestowitz | here goes http://techrights.org/2020/11/06/watchtroll-own-goal/ | Nov 06 23:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Should have home internet next Tuesday. | Nov 06 23:43 |
| schestowitz | fast | Nov 06 23:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Patent Maximalists: We Love ‘Criminals and Rapists’ as Presidents | Techrights | Nov 06 23:43 | |
| CrystalMath | what exactly are obama-era IP principles? | Nov 06 23:45 |
| schestowitz | calling out trolls | Nov 06 23:46 |
| schestowitz | scotus ruling in Alice | Nov 06 23:46 |
| schestowitz | not actually Obama | Nov 06 23:46 |
| schestowitz | but Justices | Nov 06 23:46 |
| CrystalMath | hmm | Nov 06 23:47 |
| CrystalMath | yeah they don't need to worry about that | Nov 06 23:47 |
| CrystalMath | the US will continue to have abysmal copyright and patent laws | Nov 06 23:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Lobbying platforms should be lobbying platform. | Nov 06 23:47 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: corrected, thanks | Nov 06 23:52 |
| CrystalMath | i have a question for you schestowitz | Nov 06 23:53 |
| schestowitz | ok, go ahead | Nov 06 23:53 |
| CrystalMath | if Milton Freedman suddenly appeared and became the candidate for president, and you could vote for him | Nov 06 23:54 |
| CrystalMath | would you? | Nov 06 23:54 |
| schestowitz | why would I? | Nov 06 23:54 |
| schestowitz | the man did a lot of harm | Nov 06 23:54 |
| CrystalMath | how so? | Nov 06 23:54 |
| schestowitz | both corporate parties embrace this dangerous ideaology | Nov 06 23:54 |
| CrystalMath | he did a lot of good | Nov 06 23:54 |
| schestowitz | which boils down to, let plutocrats do anything they wish | Nov 06 23:54 |
| schestowitz | inc. take over the government | Nov 06 23:54 |
| schestowitz | ask latin americans how much "good" he did | Nov 06 23:55 |
| CrystalMath | i'm not aware of his involved in latin america | Nov 06 23:55 |
| CrystalMath | *imvolvement | Nov 06 23:55 |
| CrystalMath | *involvement | Nov 06 23:55 |
| schestowitz | school of chicago | Nov 06 23:55 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_school_of_economics | Nov 06 23:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Chicago school of economics - Wikipedia | Nov 06 23:55 | |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_school_of_economics#Milton_Friedman | Nov 06 23:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Chicago school of economics - Wikipedia | Nov 06 23:56 | |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 06 23:57 |
| schestowitz | Finally, the school also has been criticized for training economists who advised the libertarian Chilean military junta during the 1970s and 1980s. While they were credited with transforming Chile into Latin America's best performing economy (see Miracle of Chile) with GDP per capita increasing from US$693 at the start of 1975 (the year Milton Friedman met with dictator Augusto Pinochet; ninth highest of 12 South American countries) to | Nov 06 23:57 |
| schestowitz | $14,528 by the end of 2014 (the second highest in South America).[74] | Nov 06 23:57 |
| schestowitz | In the years since the reforms were introduced, the economic system implemented by the "Chicago Boys" (a label given to this group of economists) have mostly remained in place.[75] The percent of total income earned by the richest 20% of the Chilean population in 2006 was 56.8%, while the percent of total income earned by the poorest 20% of the Chilean population was 4.1%, leaving a strong middle class earning 39.1% of total income.[76 | Nov 06 23:57 |
| schestowitz | Chile's Gini index (measure of income distribution) was 52.0 in 2006, compared to 24.7 of Denmark (most equally distributed) and 74.3 of Namibia (most unequally distributed).[76] Chile has the widest inequality gap of any nation in the OECD.[77] | Nov 06 23:57 |
| schestowitz | A film titled Chicago Boys, which had a highly critical view of the economic reforms, was released in Chile in November 2015.[78] | Nov 06 23:57 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 06 23:57 |
| CrystalMath | Pinochet was awful before Freedman, and Freedman cannot be blamed for him coming to power | Nov 06 23:58 |
| CrystalMath | instead, what Freedman did, was in fact transform Chile from a fascist dictatorship to a free libertarian state | Nov 06 23:58 |
| CrystalMath | maybe that required talking to a murderer, but it ended well, especially after Pinochet left | Nov 06 23:59 |
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