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● Feb 07
[00:00]	activelow	it is several issues, where c++ belongs and where it doesn't; vendor-locks, exclusion of tcc, etc.
[00:00]	schestowitz	gcc is vast
[00:01]	schestowitz	lots of that is just cruft inserted or dumped by shitty, very shitty and hostile, "hardware" companies
[00:01]	schestowitz	same issue that happens in Linux
[00:01]	activelow	because, if anyone favored GCC of tcc, that's ok. problem is kernel vendor-locked into gcc and clang, and locked out some others
[00:01]	schestowitz	they don't try to refactor and reuse
[00:01]	schestowitz	they just dump lots of crap
[00:01]	activelow	gcc *over tcc
[00:01]	schestowitz	it's "cheaper"
[00:01]	schestowitz	to them
[00:01]	schestowitz	not to Linux or kernel.org as a project
[00:01]	schestowitz	the suits don't know what reuse and refactoring means
[00:01]	schestowitz	they say things like,
[00:01]	schestowitz	"this driver is our INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY"
[00:03]	XRevan86	activelow: So kernel developers are supposed to write way more complicated code just to appease the wants of a single person?
[00:03]	XRevan86	Otherwise they're evil.
[00:03]	psydroid8	Do be evil
[00:03]	XRevan86	We all have our obligations. Like to write code in C89 (okay, C99).
[00:04]	schestowitz	XRevan86: no
[00:04]	schestowitz	they are loyal to their employer
[00:04]	schestowitz	not to the project
[00:04]	schestowitz	not to the community
[00:04]	XRevan86	schestowitz: Again, doesn't matter who they are.
[00:04]	schestowitz	because the employer hasn't much of a stake in Linux as a whole
[00:04]	psydroid8	(some construct that is used in Irish English)
[00:04]	XRevan86	schestowitz: Look at what OpenBSD or FreeBSD are doing
[00:05]	schestowitz	sometimes (e.g. "fuck you nvidia") all they care about is increasing the unit amount of crap they sell
[00:05]	XRevan86	It doesn't matter who the people are. They're all evil to activelow.
[00:05]	schestowitz	the employers are likely evil
[00:05]	schestowitz	and the people who work there comply
[00:05]	XRevan86	schestowitz: Whose? NetBSD's?
[00:05]	schestowitz	like micro larabel with his AMD crate
[00:06]	schestowitz	i don't know netbsd well enough
[00:06]	XRevan86	Illumos'?
[00:06]	schestowitz	generally speaking, kernel hackers are a lot less evil than people who write proprietary software junk like turbotax
[00:06]	schestowitz	*tux
[00:06]	schestowitz	tux machines does not cover these
[00:07]	schestowitz	those are people who sold their soul to crap
[00:07]	schestowitz	for compensation
[00:07]	activelow	XRevan86: pardon? when talking to some devs in recent days some of them were rather friendly and helped me with some hints
[00:08]	XRevan86	schestowitz: The scope of the conversation doesn't involve any of that. The important thing is that all those big operating systems, no matter the origin, do not support TinyCC, and won't.
[00:08]	activelow	and, if a decade of millions of man hours are at stake with some questions raised
[00:08]	activelow	tinycc is only one cornerstone of proof for this hypothesis of mine
[00:09]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: firefox 91 is FINALLY available in Debian 10
[00:09]	schestowitz	91
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[00:09]	schestowitz	that's like... what? last summer?
[00:09]	XRevan86	And maybe, just maybe, that's just because it would be self-harmful to try to support a shitty little compiler by limiting one's options in the language featureset.
[00:09]	schestowitz	mozilla is rust ol' shite
[00:09]	activelow	XRevan86: wrong again, tinycc had proven flexible with extensions beyond c99
[00:10]	activelow	however, even this wasn't good enough, for tiny "irelevant" niche
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[00:10]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 15.23 k/sec., IPFS upstream 33.41 average k/sec., average swarm size 259.78
[00:10]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 15.23 k/sec., IPFS upstream 33.41 average k/sec., average swarm size 259.78
[00:11]	XRevan86	activelow: Alright, try to compile OpenBSD with it then.
[00:11]	XRevan86	let's see how that goes
[00:12]	activelow	XRevan86: i was already considering this. OpenBSD did verify, 2007, they could feed their base system and kernel into PCC for x86 target
[00:12]	XRevan86	After failure, try to pitch the idea to the developers, I would be curious to know their reaction to "please stop using these compiler features".
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[00:13]	activelow	haven't tried tcc yet with OpenBSD; besides i fear the system integration with gentoo-portage and GNU userspace on top of an OpenBSD kernel won't be trivial, and i am not yet willing to ditch portage because this is what i used to dependency-track upstream, remove all c++ dependencies (systemd, opengl, etc. etc.)
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[00:14]	XRevan86	activelow: I was just suggesting that as a PoC.
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[00:14]	XRevan86	That sentence made me cough.
[00:14]	activelow	i haven't got that much time anymore, and 0income is a problem too
[00:14]	DaemonFC	<schestowitz> that's like... what? last summer?
[00:14]	XRevan86	activelow: Stop doing useless things then?
[00:14]	DaemonFC	Yes, and Firefox 79 hadn't been maintained since October.
[00:14]	XRevan86	activelow: No one is going to pay you for this.
[00:14]	DaemonFC	Not even with CVE patches.
[00:15]	DaemonFC	And there's already sites that won't work with Firefox 91.
[00:15]	DaemonFC	:)
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[00:24]	activelow	XRevan86> activelow: So kernel developers are supposed to write way more complicated code just to appease the wants of a single person?
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[00:24]	activelow	XRevan86: kernel 2.4 and 4.6 could be compiled with tcc; and cannot be anymore
[00:24]	activelow	that's why, this question is worth any further investigation.
[00:25]	activelow	*not
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[00:26]	activelow	instead you should have asked: why was an already functional system setup "improved" upon, increasing LoC 10x, slowing down compilation time 100x etc. etc.
[00:26]	XRevan86	activelow: Any proof of that? I can only find information on that TinyCC built a *subset* of Linux 2.4, with patches.
[00:27]	activelow	XRevan86: posted it here, yesterday already
[00:27]	XRevan86	activelow: Again, use GCC with -O0, be amazed of how blazing fast it is.
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[00:27]	activelow	the most recent talk was this: youtu.be/iU0Z0vBKrtQ
[00:28]	XRevan86	The build result will also be comparable to what TinyCC does, so should be good enough for you.
[00:28]	activelow	XRevan86: there is no benefit with gcc -O0, because the compile-time performance doesn't improve sufficiently
[00:28]	activelow	compilation of gcc and compiling anything with it is slow, in particular g++
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[00:29]	XRevan86	"The result is slow, but it's created very quickly"
[00:29]	DaemonFC	https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/sljnqe/name_something_you_could_afford_with_1_superbowl/
[00:29]	TR Bot	 Name something you could afford with 1 Superbowl ticket : LateStageCapitalism
[00:29]	DaemonFC	BaronHK
[00:29]	DaemonFC	
[00:29]	DaemonFC	just now
[00:29]	DaemonFC	A 3 bedroom 2 bath house in Indiana in decent shape, with a garage, and an acre of land, and 10 YEARS of the $500 annual property tax payments. Paid in full.
[00:29]	DaemonFC	-or-
[00:29]	DaemonFC	A 10% down payment on a similar house in Illinois and nothing with which to pay the annual $4,000 of property tax.
[00:29]	DaemonFC	Illinois: Come live the Democrat Party dream.
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[00:30]	activelow	XRevan86: i didn't succed with compiling linux kernel with tcc, i do not know the runtime performance yet; rough estimate is a close equivalent to gcc -O0, yes, and that's good enough
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[00:30]	activelow	if, hardfloat support remained, which it can with tcc, because those are some more crucial code paths where runtime performance is critical
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[00:31]	XRevan86	I wonder what happened since 2018. Probably the world just kept spinning.
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[00:33]	XRevan86	(and 10s that's obviously a subset too, good luck using that on real hardware, even in 2018)
[00:34]	DaemonFC	My mom's family is a bunch of Bubbas that embody all of the characteristics they make fun of in other people.
[00:34]	activelow	may main concern at this frontline isn't the runtime-performance of the binaries
[00:35]	activelow	the main concern is i cannot estimate yet how much effort was required to improve upon tcc (it required the gcc -S option, which is used inside Kbuild procedure, to output ASM from the compiler instead of a binary)
[00:35]	activelow	one example, and that's not the only one
[00:35]	DaemonFC	While the credit card company is literally suing my cousin for a cup of Starbucks she ordered 3 years ago for $6, which now costs $18, and is being garnished out of her paycheck by the court, among all the rest of the stuff, they preach personal responsibility and social obligations.
[00:36]	DaemonFC	While they're literally the people who put Starbucks on a charge card now and don't care what happens later because that's 36 months away.
[00:36]	XRevan86	activelow: I can safely estimate that it's not a one-person job.
[00:36]	activelow	and susematz stumbled upon many more issues for x86_64 qemu target; while i want to target aarch32 or aarch64
[00:36]	activelow	i am not at least sure if it is feasible
[00:37]	activelow	not because of tcc, because of FSF/GCC/GNU/Linux/IBM-Wintel/RedHat or whoever was resonsible for gcc and linux kernel
[00:37]	DaemonFC	I can buy one can of instant coffee for $3 at Walmart and make coffee out of it twice a day for the next 14 weeks.
[00:37]	activelow	because it was them, not tcc, who vendor-locked
[00:38]	XRevan86	Those darn developers and their lust for language syntax.
[00:38]	DaemonFC	But my cousins buy $6 cups of Starbucks twice a day until the card is maxed out and then get sued over it and it costs $18 a cup twice a day by that point.
[00:38]	TR News	"Most of my contributions to Free software continue to happen within Debian." https://www.earth.li/~noodles/blog/2022/02/a-year-in-free-software.html #debian #gnu #linux #freesw
[00:38]	TR Bot	 Free Software Activities for 2021
[00:38]	DaemonFC	And it's in a court system to humiliate them for not paying their bills.
[00:38]	TR News	The Coolest Controller Mod, Hands Down | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2022/02/06/the-coolest-controller-mod-hands-down/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/07/#latest
[00:38]	TR Bot	Coolest Controller Mod, Hands Down | Hackaday
[00:38]	TR Bot	 Social Control Media Posts
[00:38]	TR News	It's a #GNU program, not "Linux" command; a kernel does not have such tools https://www.makeuseof.com/cut-command-examples-linux/ see http://techrights.org/2020/01/02/gnu-programs-as-linux-commands/
[00:38]	TR Bot	 9 Practical Examples of the cut Command in Linux
[00:38]	TR Bot	 GNU Programs Arent Linux Commands But GNU Programs | Techrights
[00:39]	TR News	The EPOs Overseer/Overseen #Collusion Part XXXXIII: A Legal No-Mans Land Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/06/immunity-help-from-the-epo-ac/ #Techrights #Europe #Corruption #EPO | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/06/immunity-help-from-the-epo-ac/
[00:39]	TR Bot	 The EPOs Overseer/Overseen Collusion Part XXXXIII: A Legal No-Mans Land | Techrights
[00:39]	DaemonFC	I suppose in theory you could include core utilities from the BSDs into a Linux distribution.
[00:39]	activelow	XRevan86: i consider it a strategic and hostile vendor-lock by Satan
[00:39]	DaemonFC	I don't know of anyone who does.
[00:39]	DaemonFC	It would no longer behave as applications expect a Linux system to behave.
[00:39]	TR News	[Meme] Almost a Decade for EPO Justice (Delayed, Hence Denied) Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/06/meme-almost-a-decade-for-epo-justice-delayed-hence-denied/ #Techrights #ILOAT #Europe #Corruption #EPO | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/06/meme-almost-a-decade-for-epo-justice-delayed-hence-denied/
[00:39]	TR Bot	 [Meme] Almost a Decade for EPO Justice (Delayed, Hence Denied) | Techrights
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[00:40]	XRevan86	activelow: I know, I made an accurate assessment already.
[00:40]	TR News	"court granted the plaintiffs' motion for summary judgment on its cause of action for review under Section 1071 of the #Trademark Act. Garan, Incorporated and #Garan Services Corporation v. #Manimal , LLC, Case No. 3:20-cv-00623-IM (D. Oregon January 25, 2022)." http://thettablog.blogspot.com/2022/02/additional-garanimals-evidence-yields.html
[00:40]	TR Bot	 The TTABlog: Additional "GARANIMALS" Evidence Yields District Court Reversal Of TTAB's "MANIMAL" Opposition Dismissal
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[00:40]	TR News	#copyright #copyrights #latvia #sweden http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2022/02/swedish-court-applies-c76219-cv-online.html
[00:40]	TR Bot	 Swedish court applies C-762/19 CV-Online Latvia in parking app battle - The IPKat
[00:40]	XRevan86	activelow: Don't tell the Red Hat people that, or Satan will tell them to kickban you :).
[00:41]	DaemonFC	In Illinois, if someone sues you, there are court records, but all you can see is who sued and who got sued.
[00:41]	XRevan86	activelow: And don't use nicknames like PopeIsSatan666, those also trigger Satan worshippers a.k.a. channel moderators.
[00:42]	DaemonFC	Indiana dumps everything out, so you can actually see them running up their credit cards, line by line.
[00:42]	bnchs	everytime i keep doing something forbidden (like using tor), ISP keeps throttling my connection until my client just gives up
[00:42]	schestowitz	:/
[00:43]	bnchs	thats why you see me parting all the time
[00:43]	TR News	#SearX , an Alternative to #Gulag Scholar https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2022/02/searx-alternative-to-google-scholar.html #UbuntuBuzz
[00:43]	TR Bot	 SearX, an Alternative to Google Scholar
[00:43]	MinceR	are VPN services and SSH also "forbidden"?
[00:43]	TR News	Latest #brainwash campaign from the oligarchs' protectors at #UKIPO http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2022/02/uk-ipo-announce-new-ip-crime-strategy.html see http://techrights.org/2021/10/10/epo-uk-ac-delegates/ #uk #monopolies
[00:43]	TR Bot	 UK IPO announce new IP Counter-Infringement strategy - The IPKat
[00:43]	TR Bot	 The EPOs Overseer/Overseen Collusion Part VIII: Perfidious Albion and Pusillanimous Hibernia | Techrights
[00:44]	bnchs	they don't say whats forbidden, but it's odd that they throttle our speed when i use tor
[00:45]	MinceR	the best kind of ISP
[00:45]	MinceR	like Deutsche Telekom, where "unlimited" actually has a monthly data limit
[00:46]	TR News	[Older] When #patents needlessly kill people for profit https://www.iam-media.com/law-policy/democrats-congress-pharma-patent-strategies-report-reform #patent #monopolies
[00:46]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: iam-media.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.iam-media.com/law-policy/democrats-congress-pharma-patent-strategies-report-reform
[00:46]	TR Bot	 IAM - US legislators call for screws to be tightened on pharma patent strategies
[00:46]	TR News	Designing devices for long-term care and reuse https://cheapskatesguide.org/articles/uncharitable.html by Dr. #AndyFarnell #environment #nature #technofascism #ewaste
[00:47]	TR Bot	 Designing devices for long-term care and reuse
[00:48]	TR News	#HowTo Build a #MorseCode Receiver with Raspberry Pi | Tom's Hardware https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/morse-code-receiver-raspberry-pi #tomshardware
[00:48]	TR Bot	 How to Build a Morse Code Receiver with Raspberry Pi | Tom's Hardware
[00:49]	TR News	"Some times Linux people take software minimalism a little bit too far and #rootdo is one of those cases, this is minimal replacement to #doas which is already excessively minimal." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=7abih61ht-I #sudo #security
[00:49]	TR Bot	 Rootdo Takes Linux Minimalism Way Too Far - Invidious
[00:50]	bnchs	there's gonna be a dodo command thats a minimal replacement to rootdo
[00:50]	bnchs	written in x86 assembly
[00:50]	MinceR	lol
[00:50]	MinceR	and then it will die out
[00:50]	XRevan86	activelow: For the record, everything I've said about Satan was pure concentrated mockery.
[00:51]	MinceR	https://hugelolcdn.com/i/808915.jpg
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[00:51]	TR News	Disguising protection of #monopolies as a matter of "public health" or "safety" is not a new trick/lie http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2022/02/european-commission-calls-for-evidence.html #eu #europe #monopoly
[00:51]	TR Bot	 European Commission calls for evidence on anti-counterfeit toolbox initiative - The IPKat
[00:51]	MinceR	introducing Satan++
[00:51]	TR News	TTABlog Test: Is "CRC BAKERY" Confusable with the "CRC" #Kosher Certification Mark, Both for Food Products? http://thettablog.blogspot.com/2022/02/ttablog-test-is-crc-bakery-confusable.html #Trademarks #Trademark #TTAB #USPTO
[00:51]	TR Bot	 The TTABlog: TTABlog Test: Is "CRC BAKERY" Confusable with the "CRC" Kosher Certification Mark, Both for Food Products?
[00:52]	MinceR	"CRC" Kosher Certification Mark is confusable with Cyclic Redundancy Check, time to ban "CRC" Kosher Certification Mark.
[00:52]	bnchs	tbh when i wanna search for CRC-32, i don't want results about 32 kosher foods
[00:52]	TR News	These events promote the lie of "IP" http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2022/02/sunday-surprises.html see https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/not-ipr.en.html #scarcity #propaganda
[00:52]	TR Bot	 Sunday Surprises - The IPKat
[00:52]	TR Bot	 Did You Say Intellectual Property? It's a Seductive Mirage - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation
[00:53]	XRevan86	MinceR: Do they really expect someone to open up under this much pressure?
[00:53]	XRevan86	these things can't be forced.
[00:54]	MinceR	:>
[00:54]	TR News	[Older] #SoftwarePatents #cartel boosted by #IAM https://www.iam-media.com/patent-pools/analysis-indicates-access-advance-currently-the-top-hevc-patent-pool see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/MPEG-LA #swpats #hevc
[00:54]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: iam-media.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.iam-media.com/patent-pools/analysis-indicates-access-advance-currently-the-top-hevc-patent-pool
[00:54]	TR Bot	 IAM - Analysis indicates that Access Advance is currently the top HEVC patent pool
[00:54]	TR Bot	 MPEG-LA - Techrights
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[00:56]	TR News	No, #EU does NOT like #Whistleblowing ... heck, it doesn't even mention #Whistleblowers ... won't protect them https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/eu-whistleblowing-directive-what-5583936/ see what they do on #epo http://techrights.org/2021/10/02/merkel-epo-legacy/
[00:56]	TR Bot	Whistleblowing Directive: What Companies Need to Know | Orrick, Herrington & Sutcliffe LLP - JDSupra
[00:56]	TR Bot	 Angela Merkels Coalition Has Not Helped EPO Staff and Not Even Bloggers Blackmailed by EPO Management | Techrights
[00:56]	XRevan86	MinceR: Satan++, also known as Satao
[00:57]	TR News	Well, #designpatents ought not even exist at all; it's misuse of #patent #law https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/design-patent-prior-art-must-be-from-5544873/ see http://techrights.org/2018/08/02/design-patents-legitimacy/
[00:57]	TR Bot	Patent Prior Art Must Be From Same or Analogous Field as Claimed Article of Manufacture | McDermott Will & Emery - JDSupra
[00:57]	TR Bot	 Design Patents: When Appearances Rather Than Inventions and Functions Are Oddly Enough Covered by Patents, Not Copyrights or Trademarks | Techrights
[00:57]	TR News	"the #PTAB entered its final written decision in #UnifiedPatents , LLC v. 2BCom, LLC on the patentability of the claims of U.S. #Patent No. 7,127,210" https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/printed-publication-proof-cross-t-s-and-5076733/
[00:57]	TR Bot	Publication Proof Cross Ts And Dot Is | Jones Day - JDSupra
● Feb 07
[01:01]	XRevan86	At least I've finally had this conversation with him, it's been brewing in me, but I knew it was going to be long.
[01:01]	TR News	Links 6/2/2022: #LibreDWG 0.12.5 and FOSDEM 2022 Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/06/libredwg-0-12-5/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/06/libredwg-0-12-5/
[01:01]	TR Bot	 Links 6/2/2022: LibreDWG 0.12.5 and FOSDEM 2022 | Techrights
[01:02]	TR News	#OpenHardware /Modding: Raspberry Pi Projects and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161168 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[01:02]	TR Bot	 Open Hardware/Modding: Raspberry Pi Projects and More | Tux Machines
[01:02]	TR News	#FreeSoftware Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161173 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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[01:02]	TR News	Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161174 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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[01:03]	TR News	#Linux 5.17-rc3 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161170 #Kernel #freesw #GPL #TuxMachines
[01:03]	TR Bot	 Linux 5.17-rc3 | Tux Machines
[01:04]	TR News	#LibreDWG 0.12.5 released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161171 #GNU #GPL #sharing #TuxMachines
[01:04]	TR Bot	 LibreDWG 0.12.5 released | Tux Machines
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[01:11]	TR News	6 Best #FreeSW #Robotic Process Automation Tools Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161162 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[01:11]	TR Bot	 6 Best Free and Open Source Robotic Process Automation Tools | Tux Machines
[01:15]	DaemonFC	https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/protest-against-vaccine-mandates-paralyzing-canada-capital-mayor-says-2022-02-06/
[01:15]	TR Bot	mayor declares state of emergency to deal with trucking blockade | Reuters
[01:15]	DaemonFC	Yeah, Canada doesn't have any lunatics.....and other short stories.
[01:18]	TR News	Best Linux Gaming Distros In 2022 For Gamers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161163 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[01:18]	TR Bot	 Best Linux Gaming Distros In 2022 For Gamers | Tux Machines
[01:18]	TR News	#LibreOffice 7.3.0 for #Slackware 15.0 (and -current) Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161164 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[01:18]	TR Bot	 LibreOffice 7.3.0 for Slackware 15.0 (and -current) | Tux Machines
[01:18]	DaemonFC	https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-considers-lengthening-gap-between-first-2-covid-shots-8-weeks-2022-02-04/
[01:18]	TR Bot	considers lengthening gap between first 2 COVID shots to 8 weeks | Reuters
[01:19]	schestowitz-TR	ongoing trials
[01:19]	schestowitz-TR	"call me whe done"
[01:19]	DaemonFC	First came the encouragement to take the shots, and then bribes, and then threats....then the threats fell apart.
[01:19]	activelow	Wrong: "The result is slow, but it's created very quickly"; Right: there is a trade-off between compilation-time/optimization and runtime-performance, this is what i said
[01:19]	DaemonFC	Now they admit that they have the side effects they denied a few months ago.
[01:20]	activelow	furthermore, it isn't a distaste for c++, it is a distaste for it where it doesn't belong, inside base system components
[01:20]	activelow	if every single sentence is quoted incorrectly and misrepresented argument
[01:20]	TR News	#Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161165 #Linux #TuxMachines
[01:20]	TR Bot	 Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
[01:21]	activelow	besides the consequences, the aggressive vendor-lock of kernel and gcc had
[01:22]	TR News	Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161166 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[01:22]	TR Bot	 Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
[01:22]	activelow	such as increase of LoC 10x-100x; increase of compilation times by the same amount, loss of a verified bootstrapping procedure
[01:22]	activelow	this how Olymp was conquered
[01:23]	TR News	Status update: Mass packaging, and mass learning - post #2 https://snehit.dev/posts/kde/sok-2022/mass-packaging-mass-learning/ #kde #freesw
[01:23]	activelow	what was the story with the Titans? stoned and thrown into tartarus?
[01:23]	TR Bot	 Status update: Mass packaging, and mass learning - post #2
[01:23]	TR News	"You can access and download Svante Schuberts slides about News from the #ODF Toolkit which was supposed to be features during #FOSDEM 2022 but for some reason didnt work out." https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2022/02/06/news-from-the-odf-toolkit/ #documentfoundation #libreoffice
[01:23]	TR Bot	 FOSDEM 2022 - News from the ODF Toolkit (with Notes) by Svante Schubert - The Document Foundation Blog
[01:24]	activelow	helios carrying his sun-golden crown, little lattler it was thorns on his head; remarkable twist
[01:24]	DaemonFC	FedEx printing won't accept ODF files.
[01:24]	schestowitz-TR	one could wait for the next variants... of these vaccines... until they adjust forumla, protocol etc.
[01:24]	DaemonFC	So I have to save to OOXML or RTF or legacy Microsoft formats, or PDF.
[01:25]	schestowitz-TR	DaemonFC: fedex  is microsoft mindset
[01:25]	schestowitz-TR	our customers are usually not willing
[01:25]	TR News	New release of #sbuildqemu Utilities https://www.kvr.at/posts/new-release-of-sbuild-qemu-utilities/ #gnu #linux #freesw
[01:25]	TR Bot	 New release of sbuild-qemu Utilities | Christian Kastner
[01:26]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR, The crazy part is OOXML files are usually smaller because LibreOffice uses DEFLATE.
[01:26]	TR News	"A 40-pin header was added, for programming via a #RaspberryPi in case the front panel programming switches are proving a bit tedious and error prone." https://hackaday.com/2022/02/06/the-q2-a-pdp8-like-discrete-transistor-computer/
[01:26]	TR Bot	Q2, A PDP8-Like Discrete Transistor Computer | Hackaday
[01:26]	DaemonFC	But that's not part of ODF?
[01:26]	TR News	"Was thrilled that Mozilla finally got their sh!t together when it comes to performance in Firefox, with the initial release of #Firefox Quantum in late 2017." https://fortintam.com/blog/2018-retrospective/
[01:26]	TR Bot	 Year MMXVIII summarized in 4 minutes The Open Sourcerer
[01:27]	schestowitz-TR	DaemonFC: comression
[01:27]	schestowitz-TR	you can compress odf also
[01:27]	TR News	#Tails vs. Linux #Kodachi : Which Privacy Protection Distro Should You Choose? Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161167 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[01:27]	TR Bot	 Tails vs. Linux Kodachi: Which Privacy Protection Distro Should You Choose? | Tux Machines
[01:27]	XRevan86	activelow: Discord was stoned and Tirek was thrown into Tartarus.
[01:27]	DaemonFC	Microsoft uses DEFLATE and LZ77 pretty much everywhere.
[01:27]	DaemonFC	They seem to want to avoid patents above all else.
[01:28]	schestowitz-TR	but it leads to bloat
[01:28]	XRevan86	"increase of compilation times by the same amount" <- Those are called "optimisations", not of compile-time, of course, of run-time.
[01:29]	schestowitz-TR	suddenly "apps" that open documents need to come with compression libs in them
[01:29]	schestowitz-TR	security risk, too
[01:29]	XRevan86	"loss of a verified bootstrapping procedure" <- Nope.
[01:29]	TR News	#OpenHardware Dog Treat Dispenser is a Stepping Stone For Behavioral Research https://hackaday.com/2022/02/06/open-hardware-dog-treat-dispenser-is-a-stepping-stone-for-behavioral-research/
[01:29]	TR Bot	Dog Treat Dispenser Is A Stepping Stone For Behavioral Research | Hackaday
[01:29]	DaemonFC	<schestowitz-TR> suddenly "apps" that open documents need to come with compression libs in them
[01:30]	XRevan86	No one used TinyCC for GCC bootstrapping, nor needed to.
[01:30]	DaemonFC	A compression library is the least of your security concerns with Microsoft Office running on Windows.
[01:30]	DaemonFC	If users won't see it, it's not a priority to Microsoft. Security is not something the user notices, so why not let garbage pile up and never fix it?
[01:31]	DaemonFC	The visible user experience is only barely a priority.
[01:31]	DaemonFC	Things users can't see is not a priority.
[01:31]	TR News	ILOAT has been far too slow in curtailing/stopping Benot Battistellis #EPO abuses and nobody is being held accountable, either Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/06/meme-almost-a-decade-for-epo-justice-delayed-hence-denied/ #Techrights #ilo #iloat | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/06/meme-almost-a-decade-for-epo-justice-delayed-hence-denied/
[01:31]	TR Bot	 [Meme] Almost a Decade for EPO Justice (Delayed, Hence Denied) | Techrights
[01:33]	activelow	https://bootstrapping.miraheze.org/wiki/C_compilers#Can_tcc_build_gcc_4.7.4?_[yes]
[01:33]	TR Bot	 C compilers - bootstrapping
[01:33]	TR News	The #EPO s #immunity has been exploited by #BenotBattistelli and #AntnioCampinos , albeit not without much help from the EPOs Administrative Council Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/06/immunity-help-from-the-epo-ac/ #Techrights | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/06/immunity-help-from-the-epo-ac/
[01:33]	TR Bot	 The EPOs Overseer/Overseen Collusion Part XXXXIII: A Legal No-Mans Land | Techrights
[01:35]	activelow	nonetheless, i do not feel confident about this, because it is tcc -> gcc-4.x -> gcc-5/6/7/8...; instead of tcc -> gcc-5/...
[01:36]	activelow	that's a fact, and there is no way back, almost one decade of hundreds of thousands of man-hours
[01:36]	XRevan86	activelow: What is used to compile the initial TinyCC?
[01:36]	activelow	i used gcc-4.x
[01:37]	TR News	#UAE in the monopolists' hegemony, now celebrated by convicted corrupt firm #MarksClerk , which is inciting public officials to break the law by lying to them https://www.mondaq.com/uk/trademark/1155812/uae-joins-madrid-protocol-international-trade-mark-system
[01:37]	TR Bot	 UAE Joins Madrid Protocol International Trade Mark System - Intellectual Property - UK
[01:37]	activelow	however tcc isn't as picky, and it compile itself too, beginning from where it was 1KB of source-code for the compiler/linker/as/ar in a single binary
[01:37]	activelow	*can
[01:38]	XRevan86	activelow: Just use that *instead* of TinyCC to compile a newer version?
[01:38]	XRevan86	Remove the extra step.
[01:38]	TR News	Misframing the debate or situation by interjecting meaningless and misleading terms such as "Hey Hi" https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/should-ai-systems-be-eligible-for-7230111/ see http://techrights.org/2022/01/11/buzzwords-from-brussels/
[01:38]	TR Bot	AI Systems Be Eligible For Patents? | Brooks Kushman P.C. - JDSupra
[01:38]	TR Bot	 A Soup of Buzzwords From Brussels (the European Commission) | Techrights
[01:39]	activelow	i'll not follow along argument down to asm and hardware opcodes for now; what i concluded down in the realm of hardware options was some z80/gigatron-ttl/16bit unix, if at all
[01:40]	TR News	#MaxWalters again pushing #buzzwords and nonsense; the quality of so-called 'journalism' has fallen so sharply over the past 2 decade https://www.managingip.com/article/b1wkk3m2knv9nb/metaverse-could-spark-csuite-ip-investment-say-brands
[01:40]	TR Bot	 Metaverse could spark C-suite IP investment, say brands | Managing Intellectual Property
[01:41]	activelow	to keep some linux system at least, this was the idea, before departing where i belonged
[01:41]	activelow	*to
[01:42]	TR News	#femmeashing as there are no such awards for non-women; the #extortion and #blackmail 'industry' is looking to 'soften' its bad image by exploiting women's causes. Don't fall for it. https://www.managingip.com/article/b1wd88y0mzw5xl/inaugural-women-in-business-law-global-awards
[01:42]	TR Bot	 Inaugural Women in Business Law Global Awards | Managing Intellectual Property
[01:43]	XRevan86	No idea what that means.
[01:43]	activelow	it means, i'll quit.
[01:44]	TR News	The convicted corrupt firm #MarksClerk , lecturing us about law, even in relation to #EPO (whose #corruption it actively supports), is quite a howler https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1156004/parties39-duty-to-keep-the-patents-court-informed-about-epo-proceedings see https://techrights.org/2019/01/22/buzzwords-for-junk-patents/
[01:44]	TR Bot	 Parties' Duty To Keep The Patents Court Informed About EPO Proceedings - Intellectual Property - UK
[01:45]	TR Bot	 Software Patents Are a Dying Breed, So Marks & Clerk and Other Legal Monoliths Promote the EPOs Buzzwords (Loopholes) | Techrights
[01:45]	XRevan86	activelow: Whatever floats your boat.
[01:46]	TR News	#HerbertSmithFreehills wants you to think #UPC exists even though it does not, it's moreover illegal and will be challenged (lawyers lying to people does harm to the profession) https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1153680/upc-costs-and-fees see http://techrights.org/2022/02/01/protocol-to-the-agreement-on-unified-patent-court-on-provisional-application-video/
[01:46]	TR Bot	 UPC: Costs And Fees - Intellectual Property - European Union
[01:46]	TR Bot	 Unified Patent Court (UPC) Leak Shows That Team UPC and the EPOs Management Are Knowingly Breaking the Law | Techrights
[01:48]	TR News	This 'article' (marketing spam of #litigation firm) did not age well because #UPC is dead https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1152892/upc-jurisdiction-and-optout see http://techrights.org/2020/12/22/german-constitutional-court-second-take/ #unitarypatent #unifiedpatentcourt
[01:48]	TR Bot	 UPC: Jurisdiction And "Opt-out" - Intellectual Property - European Union
[01:48]	TR Bot	 The UPC is Dead, Long Live the German Constitutional Court | Techrights
[01:49]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 16.43 k/sec., IPFS upstream 56.91 average k/sec., average swarm size 259.83
[01:49]	TR News	#EPO is a Mafia that knows nothing about grace https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1147914/epo-launches-consultation-on-grace-periods see http://techrights.org/2021/06/26/g-121-epo-catastrophe/
[01:49]	TR Bot	 EPO Launches Consultation On Grace Periods - Intellectual Property - UK
[01:49]	TR Bot	 G 1/21 is a Catastrophe for the EPOs Legitimacy | Techrights
[01:50]	activelow	that's another show-stopper with tcc: supported architectures, one remaining which can be considered free/open respecting freedom isn't supported (no blaming intended)
[01:50]	TR News	This is just incredible lying; there's no UPC, so these lawyers are basically looking to sell something that does not exist! https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1152906/how-to-get-a-unitary-patent- see http://techrights.org/2020/12/22/german-constitutional-court-second-take/ #unitarypatent #unifiedpatentcourt
[01:50]	TR Bot	 How To Get A Unitary Patent - Intellectual Property - European Union
[01:50]	activelow	another deal, to maintain the linux distro, this required three compilers already: tcc, gcc-4.x, gcc-6.x
[01:50]	activelow	instead of one
[01:50]	XRevan86	activelow: I wasn't even going to mention that, that is to be expected.
[01:51]	XRevan86	Even ARM support is surprising.
[01:51]	TR News	Media taken over by #patent fanatics and profiteers who disguise fake #patents like #softwarepatents using buzzwords like "Hey Hi" "Medical Technology (MedTech)" https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1152852/as-ai-powers-more-and-more-medical-technology-don39t-overlook-patenting see http://techrights.org/2019/04/08/software-as-a-medical-device-samd-like-medtech-at-the-epo-just-another-dodge-for-illegitimate-software-patents/
[01:51]	TR Bot	 As AI Powers More And More Medical Technology Don't Overlook Patenting - Intellectual Property - UK
[01:51]	TR Bot	 Software as a Medical Device (SaMD) Like MedTech at the EPO Just Another Dodge for Illegitimate Software Patents | Techrights
[01:53]	MinceR	07 022759 < DaemonFC> They seem to want to avoid patents above all else.
[01:53]	MinceR	patents they do not own, that is
[01:53]	MinceR	they're quite keen on forcing their own patents everywhere
[01:53]	DaemonFC	Yeah.
[01:53]	activelow	if i had not wiped opengl, most drivers required a fourth compiler for mesa/gallium: llvm
[01:54]	TR News	They clearly seem to be unaware of the #EPO crisis and its effect on #patent legitimacy https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/tut-fitness-group-wins-four-new-patents-throughout-europe-301468384.html #tutfitness should see http://techrights.org/2021/12/28/epo-wont-invest-in-staff-and-in-quality/
[01:54]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: prnewswire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/tut-fitness-group-wins-four-new-patents-throughout-europe-301468384.html
[01:54]	TR Bot	 TUT Fitness Group Wins Four New Patents Throughout Europe
[01:54]	TR Bot	 EPO Staff Representation: We Believe That the EPO Should Invest in Staff and in Quality (Not Cuts and Worse) | Techrights
[01:54]	XRevan86	Real distributions have two compilers: GCC and LLVM based.
[01:54]	schestowitz-TR	"Real"?
[01:54]	MinceR	what about complex distributions?
[01:54]	schestowitz-TR	RealPlayer has a distro?
[01:55]	XRevan86	schestowitz: Those that are not on a holy crusade against C++ that is.
[01:55]	activelow	it was only a tiny niche i had required, which had not offended any commercial interests of anyone i might add
[01:56]	XRevan86	Still don't understand why TinyCC built by GCC needs to compile GCC. Just build GCC with GCC?
[01:56]	activelow	GCC isn't trustworthy in this scenario
[01:57]	AdmFubar	https://archive.org/details/199405-decusnew-orleans/1994050DECUSNewOrleansLinuxImplementationIssuesInLinux.ogg
[01:57]	TR Bot	 The lost talks from Linus Torvalds at DECUS'94 : John Hall : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
[01:57]	activelow	to verify the bootstrapping this required disassembly of dozens of Megs of binary gibberish
[01:57]	activelow	tcc is a counter-measure against the "trust-attack", although the entire supply chain was attacked and subverted at many other places alike
[01:58]	TR News	Kernel prepatch 5.17-rc3 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161170#comment-32747
[01:58]	TR Bot	 Linux 5.17-rc3 | Tux Machines
[01:58]	XRevan86	It sucks to live in a world without Reproducible Builds.
[01:58]	activelow	and this is how much i trust any of it, FSF/GCC/GNU/Linux: 0
[01:59]	activelow	reproducible builds is yet another frontline; which isn't sufficiently coped with
[01:59]	activelow	to at least, compiling identical sources twice yields the exact same binary, as a bare minimum of verification if anything was hidden somewhere
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[02:01]	TR News	NVIDIA Adds GeForce RTX 2050, MX570 & MX550 Laptop GPU Support To Linux Through Latest Drivers https://wccftech.com/nvidia-linux-drive-geforce-rtx-2050-mx570-mx550-gpu-support/ #wccftech | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/07/#latest
[02:01]	TR Bot	 NVIDIA Adds GeForce RTX 2050, MX570 & MX550 Laptop GPU Support To Linux Through Latest Drivers
[02:01]	TR Bot	 Social Control Media Posts
[02:02]	TR News	#microsoft now restricts access to "the top 100 packages." There should have been antitrust action a long, long time ago https://opensourcesecurity.io/2022/02/06/episode-309-the-bright-future-of-open-source-secuirty/
[02:02]	TR Bot	 Episode 309 The bright future of open source secuirty Open Source Security
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[02:03]	TR News	#microsoft as #pentagon manifestation, an agent of #imperialism http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/
[02:03]	TR Bot	 The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers Expense | Techrights
[02:04]	activelow	$ man gcc; # awesome, see how much support was implemented for proprietary extensions in hardware... supporting all of it with GPL smeared onto
[02:04]	TR News	Mass #surveillance based on false pretences. APPROVED! By the state... https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/02/06/credit-monitoring-services-are-mostly-a-scam/
[02:04]	TR Bot	 Credit Monitoring services are mostly a scam. BaronHK's Rants
[02:05]	TR News	#JWM #documentation now builtin https://bkhome.org/news/202202/jwm-documentation-now-builtin.html #gnu #linux
[02:05]	TR Bot	 JWM documentation now builtin
[02:05]	TR News	#OpenMandriva Lx 4.3 released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161175 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[02:05]	TR Bot	 OpenMandriva Lx 4.3 released | Tux Machines
[02:05]	XRevan86	Good compilers don't descend themselves to the bare metal.
[02:07]	TR News	[Older] More obstacles against removal of #fakepatents in the US https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/shots-fired-challenger-must-have-1566982/ #patents #uspto #ptab
[02:07]	TR Bot	Fired: Challenger Must Have Requisite Standing Before Appealing Unfavorable IPR Decisions | McDermott Will & Emery - JDSupra
[02:09]	XRevan86	activelow: Get yourself a Commodore 64 and find peace already.
[02:10]	XRevan86	Don't know how to get to IRC from it, but ye'll figure it out maybe.
[02:10]	activelow	XRevan86: well, most often deploying a mos6502 to FPGA requires this, a gigantic proprietary monstrosity from Xilinx or Altera
[02:10]	TR News	No, UPC is not legal and these loaded headlines are their fake news lobbying strategy https://www.cms-lawnow.com/ealerts/2022/02/upc-is-it-finally-here?cc_lang=en see http://techrights.org/2021/08/19/captured-media-telling-lies/ #unitarypatent #unifiedpatentcourt
[02:10]	TR Bot	 UPC: Is it finally here?
[02:11]	TR Bot	 Naming and Shaming Captured Publications That Knowingly and Intentionally Published Fake News About the EUs Unified Patent Court So Far This Week | Techrights
[02:11]	activelow	re-visit symbiflow/yosys ? c++, arduino-ido: no, thank you.,
[02:13]	activelow	XRevan86: last time i checked, i couldn't at least some 100% clean VT100 terminal i/o with VGA and PS/2
[02:13]	activelow	some chose proprietary hardware, some chose binary-blobbed firmware/software, or both
[02:14]	activelow	but hey, nowadays mainframe-scale processing power is available, to attach some raspi to terminate vt100, straight into skynet via bluetooth and VC4 firmware inside
[02:14]	activelow	maybe, i'll grab my cheapo digital scope... and had not told the story about this one yet
[02:16]	TR News	#EPO is not for Europe but for multinationals and oligarchs; PCT a reminder of this https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1156502/pct-direct-procedure-opportunity-to-comment-on-international-application see http://techrights.org/wiki/EPO
[02:16]	TR Bot	 PCT Direct Procedure - Opportunity To Comment On International Application - Intellectual Property - UK
[02:16]	TR Bot	 EPO - Techrights
[02:18]	TR News	#Tillis has long been the mole or the "Manchin" of #patent and #copyright fanatics, in effect helping them ram policies that harm the public; but media in the pockets of those same fanatics won't describe him as such https://www.law360.com/publicpolicy/articles/1460280/tillis-floats-idea-to-consolidate-uspto-copyright-office
[02:18]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: law360.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.law360.com/publicpolicy/articles/1460280/tillis-floats-idea-to-consolidate-uspto-copyright-office
[02:18]	TR Bot	Floats Idea To Consolidate USPTO, Copyright Office - Law360
[02:21]	TR News	This writer has no clue what he's writing about; he thinks #trademarks are obtained via "European #patent office" https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2022-02-01-the-dark-pictures-developer-trademarks-five-future-titles http://techrights.org/wiki/EPO http://techrights.org/wiki/EUIPO
[02:21]	TR Bot	Dark Pictures developer trademarks five future titles Eurogamer.net
[02:21]	TR Bot	 EUIPO - Techrights
[02:23]	TR News	#HGFLtd promoting the fiction of "Intellectual Property" [sic]; companies that lack actual products cannot compensate with supposed exclusivity, but lawyers stand to benefit from the myths (selling false dreams) https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1147332/tarilian-laser-technologies-a-case-study-in-due-diligence
[02:23]	TR Bot	 Tarilian Laser Technologies A Case Study In Due Diligence - Intellectual Property - UK
[02:24]	MinceR	07 025813 < XRevan86> It sucks to live in a world without Reproducible Builds.
[02:24]	MinceR	how do those help against Trusting Trust attacks?
[02:28]	TR News	Peddling this bogus, phony, misleading narrative that "parent #patent was attacked on various grounds" is inversion of roles; the #patents themselves are the attacks; those who challenge them act in self defence; #FrantzeskaPapadopoulou is either deeply brainwashed/indoctrinated or dishonest http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2022/02/neurim-v-mylan-illiad-was-shorter.html
[02:28]	TR Bot	 Neurim v. Mylan-- the Illiad was shorter - The IPKat
[02:30]	TR News	The so-called 'media' ain't talking about it, but #Europe already has its share of malicious, aggressive #patenttrolls like #Sisvel http://www.fosspatents.com/2022/02/sisvel-suing-ford-motor-company-over.html https://techrights.org/2010/03/08/using-the-sisvel-army/ http://techrights.org/2018/04/09/sisvel-europe/
[02:30]	TR Bot	 FOSS Patents: Sisvel suing Ford Motor Company over two 4G standard-essential patents in Munich; Ford's answer to Delaware complaint due tomorrow
[02:30]	TR Bot	 Apple the Bully Goes Hunting for Patent Violators With the Sisvel Army | Techrights
[02:30]	TR Bot	 The Sisvelisation of Europe, With or Without the Unified Patent Court (UPC) | Techrights
[02:31]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR, Well, I made one change away from animal products.
[02:32]	DaemonFC	I found that oat milk is quite good and with less saturated fats, and it's not terrible for the environment like cow's milk.
[02:32]	DaemonFC	I discovered that by accident because Mandy is lactose intolerant and if I feed him anything with a lot of dairy, I'm in trouble later.
[02:32]	TR News	#DennisCrouch celebrates #uspto resorting to #javascript chaos that harms disabled people and laughs at #accessibility https://patentlyo.com/patent/2022/02/patent-public-search.html it's not even a Web page!!! It's boated garbage. https://ppubs.uspto.gov/pubwebapp/
[02:32]	TR Bot	 Patent Public Search Tool | Patently-O
[02:32]	TR Bot	 Patent Public Search | USPTO
[02:33]	DaemonFC	For a while, I was buying lactose free milk, but then I realized oat milk was better tasting and had less sugar and saturated fats, and didn't ruin my coffee.
[02:33]	DaemonFC	For some reason, you're just replacing one problem with another with lactose free milk.
[02:34]	DaemonFC	It tastes all wrong. It's also disturbingly sweet, and not like sugar sweet either. Like you don't know what it's got in it.
[02:36]	TR News	In spite of #EPO #corruption and crimes, LSE uses "European #Patent Office" as a source, citing #greenwashing fluff designed to distract from the crimes https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/businessreview/2022/02/02/multinationals-and-renewable-energy-boosting-innovation-through-foreign-direct-investments/ see http://techrights.org/2021/04/27/epo-greenwashing-stunts/
[02:36]	TR Bot	 Multinationals and renewable energy: boosting innovation through foreign direct investments | LSE Business Review
[02:36]	TR Bot	 The EPO Abuses Climate Change, Hijacking or Misusing Grassroots Activism for Corporate Public Relations Stunts | Techrights
[02:37]	TR News	"And that's what Soule is. He is an unindicted criminal. #Microsoft was already overflowing with those. They buy companies that bring in yet more." http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-060222.html#tFeb%2006%2021:26:02
[02:37]	TR Bot	 IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, February 06, 2022
[02:38]	TR News	Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-060222.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-060222.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-060222.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-060222.txt
[02:38]	TR Bot	 IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, February 06, 2022
[02:39]	TR News	Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-060222.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-060222.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techrights-060222.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-060222.txt
[02:39]	TR Bot	 IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, February 06, 2022
[02:39]	TR News	"It should be no surprise to readers of Patently-O that many are unhappy with the Supreme Courts jurisprudence regarding patent eligibility under Section 101 of the Patent Act," it says. Because they're #patent #litigation profiteers, not scientists. This is #lobbying , funded by the litigation fanatics. https://patentlyo.com/patent/2022/02/assessing-responses-eligibility.html
[02:39]	TR Bot	 Guest Post: Assessing Responses to the PTO's 2021 Patent Eligibliity Study
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[02:40]	TR Bot	 IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, February 06, 2022
[02:40]	AdmFubar	https://tech.slashdot.org/story/22/02/04/1443219/zuckerberg-tells-staff-to-focus-on-video-products-as-metas-stock-plunges
[02:40]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: slashdot.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://tech.slashdot.org/story/22/02/04/1443219/zuckerberg-tells-staff-to-focus-on-video-products-as-metas-stock-plunges
[02:40]	TR Bot	 Zuckerberg Tells Staff To Focus on Video Products as Meta's Stock Plunges - Slashdot
[02:41]	TR News	Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-060222.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-060222.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-060222.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-060222.txt
[02:41]	TR Bot	 IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, February 06, 2022
[02:41]	TR News	#Hungary Amends #Patent Act https://www.petosevic.com/resources/news/2022/02/4580 but the #corruption at #HIPO will prevail http://techrights.org/2021/10/06/no-vote-while-present/
[02:41]	TR Bot	 Hungary Amends Patent Act | PETOEVI
[02:41]	TR Bot	 Cannot Cast a Ballot for Hungary, the Czech Republic, and Liechtenstein (Even Whilst Attending for the Vote)? | Techrights
[02:43]	TR News	Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-02-06.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-02-06.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
[02:44]	TR News	#lexology must be doing very badly if it's using #paywalls and ALSO #outsourcing to #microsoft in the process. Lexology probably won't even exist anymore... in 5-10 years.
[02:48]	TR News	Corrupt and (recently very) disgraced #patent #litigation firm uses buzzwords like "Hey Hi" to mislead people and push #patent #law into sheer fantasy world https://www.carpmaels.com/patenting-ai-the-nature-of-inventorship-and-the-mechanics-of-ownership/ see http://techrights.org/2021/08/05/patents-for-bots/
[02:48]	TR Bot	AI: the nature of inventorship and the mechanics of ownership - Carpmaels & Ransford - Law Firm
[02:48]	TR Bot	 [Meme] Patents for Bots (the Other Kind of Hey Hi Patents) | Techrights
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[02:51]	AdmFubar	https://softwarefreedom.org/blog/2021/jun/02/gcc-statement/
[02:51]	TR Bot	 GCC Drops Requirement of Copyright Assignment to FSF - Software Freedom Law Center
[02:52]	schestowitz	AdmFubar: video..
[02:52]	schestowitz	wait.. that's...
[02:52]	schestowitz	like an occupied and crowded space already
[02:52]	schestowitz	tiktok, gulagtube etc.
[02:52]	AdmFubar	it was from a while back
[02:53]	schestowitz	FB will die one day
[02:53]	schestowitz	with all its "contenty"
[02:53]	schestowitz	"OMG!! all ma mamas and papas and mates will die!!!"
[02:53]	schestowitz	or maybe FB never defined who your "friends" are;-)
[02:53]	AdmFubar	one day it will become myspace like
[02:53]	schestowitz	yeah
[02:54]	schestowitz	or friendster
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[02:56]	TR News	#Ubuntu mirrors https://linuxconfig.org/ubuntu-mirrors#more-13006 #gnu #linux
[02:56]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://linuxconfig.org/ubuntu-mirrors#more-13006 )
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[02:59]	AdmFubar	https://www.techtarget.com/searchsecurity/news/252512799/More-than-1000-malware-packages-found-in-NPM-repository
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[02:59]	TR Bot	 More than 1,000 malware packages found in NPM repository
[02:59]	TR News	#WiFi is another sort of #patent #cartel and writers sponsored by this cartel say "patent [sic] owners spy monetisation [sic] opportunities" https://www.iam-media.com/frand/huawei-inks-its-first-wi-fi-6-patent-licence-deal-overseas-implementer see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/IAM
[02:59]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: iam-media.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.iam-media.com/frand/huawei-inks-its-first-wi-fi-6-patent-licence-deal-overseas-implementer
[02:59]	TR Bot	 IAM - Huawei inks its first Wi-Fi 6 patent licence with an overseas implementer
[02:59]	TR Bot	 IAM - Techrights
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[03:01]	TR News	"holding all but one of the challenged claims unpatentable in IPR2019-00329." #uspto #patents #fakepatents https://www.natlawreview.com/article/whole-lot-cobble-ty-gook-after-wertheim
[03:01]	TR Bot	 PTAB Affirmed in Indivior UK v. Dr. Reddy's Patent Case
[03:01]	AdmFubar	https://isc.sans.edu/diary/rss/28308
[03:01]	TR Bot	 Power over Ethernet and Thermal Imaging
[03:02]	AdmFubar	https://gizmodo.com/nso-group-reportedly-offered-bags-of-cash-for-access-to-1848460615
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[03:02]	TR Bot	 NSO Group Reportedly Offered 'Bags of Cash' for Access to U.S. Networks
[03:03]	TR News	[Older] It is going to get a lot easier to lose your #patents ; digital systems rot a lot faster than paper https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/pto-will-transition-to-electronic-9291287/ #patent #uspto
[03:03]	TR Bot	Will Transition to Electronic Issuance of Patents and Trademarks | McDermott Will & Emery - JDSupra
[03:04]	AdmFubar	https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/02/how-phishers-are-slinking-their-links-into-linkedin/
[03:04]	TR Bot	 How Phishers Are Slinking Their Links Into LinkedIn Krebs on Security
[03:06]	TR News	The #greenwashing oxymoron of "green plastics" [oil], citing the corrupt #EPO with its PR strategy, looking to distract from the EPO's crimes https://www.appleyardlees.com/progress-and-promise-for-green-plastics/ http://techrights.org/2021/04/27/epo-greenwashing-stunts/
[03:06]	TR Bot	 Progress and promise for green plastics - Appleyard Lees
[03:06]	TR Bot	 The EPO Abuses Climate Change, Hijacking or Misusing Grassroots Activism for Corporate Public Relations Stunts | Techrights
[03:07]	AdmFubar	https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/01/scary-fraud-ensues-when-id-theft-usury-collide/
[03:07]	TR Bot	 Scary Fraud Ensues When ID Theft & Usury Collide Krebs on Security
[03:08]	TR News	"In the recent decision T 1989/18 one of the Boards of Appeal of the European #Patent Office ( #EPO )..." These tribunals are rigged. https://www.potterclarkson.com/insights/description-amendments-will-the-epo-change-its-examination-practice/ see http://techrights.org/2021/06/26/g-121-epo-catastrophe/
[03:08]	TR Bot	 Will the EPO Change its Examination Practice? | Potter Clarkson
[03:08]	TR Bot	 G 1/21 is a Catastrophe for the EPOs Legitimacy | Techrights
[03:08]	AdmFubar	I wonder how much norton makes....   https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/01/500m-avira-antivirus-users-introduced-to-cryptomining/
[03:08]	TR Bot	 500M Avira Antivirus Users Introduced to Cryptomining Krebs on Security
[03:10]	TR News	"Supreme Court held that such deception and failure to provide material information were not consistent with fair competition in the marketplace, since #Sanof is actions significantly impacted how Sanofis competitors brought generic alternatives to market. As such, the Supreme Court held Sanofi liable under claims of unjust enrichment." https://www.arnon.co.il/en/content/competition-law-aspects-patent-licensing-enforcement-isra
[03:10]	TR Bot	( status 404 @ https://www.arnon.co.il/en/content/competition-law-aspects-patent-licensing-enforcement-isra )
[03:10]	activelow	AdmFubar: the historical speeches from torvalds, are noteworthy, however those apply to a kernel which doesn't exist anymore
[03:11]	activelow	or, better to say, recent releases do not follow the intended design principles of it anymore
[03:11]	MinceR	Torvalds doesn't seem to be in control anymore
[03:12]	TR News	The utter lunacy of #patents on life and nature does not end; these #patent extremists won't rest until everything -- including breathing air -- gets monopolised, with #lawsuits they stand to profit from https://www.patentdocs.org/2022/01/cvc-files-responsive-preliminary-motion-no-1-for-priority-benefit.html
[03:12]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: patentdocs.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.patentdocs.org/2022/01/cvc-files-responsive-preliminary-motion-no-1-for-priority-benefit.html
[03:12]	TR Bot	 Patent Docs: CVC Files Responsive Preliminary Motion No. 1 for Priority Benefit
[03:12]	activelow	a cornerstone of proof would be to ask torvalds if decent tcc support was feasible, to "keep it simple" as possible
[03:12]	TR News	Florian Mller: #Ericsson seeking preliminary injunction against #Apple distributor in Brazil, filed second case in #Belgium ; Apple wants December trial in Texas, now challenging 10 Ericsson patents http://www.fosspatents.com/2022/02/ericsson-seeking-preliminary-injunction.html #fosspatents | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/07/#latest
[03:12]	TR Bot	 FOSS Patents: Ericsson seeking preliminary injunction against Apple distributor in Brazil, filed second case in Belgium; Apple wants December trial in Texas, now challenging 10 Ericsson patents
[03:12]	TR Bot	 Social Control Media Posts
[03:13]	activelow	and the gcc fellows could be asked to implement SH2 support for tcc, and missing features to compile linux kernel; i do not claim any authority with those ideas
[03:13]	TR News	#SukanyaSarkar at #managingip once again legitimising #scams https://www.managingip.com/article/b1wkywf642s3y6/nfts-and-new-tech-to-shake-up-domain-disputes-in-2022 #nft #scam
[03:13]	TR Bot	 NFTs and new tech to shake up domain disputes in 2022 | Managing Intellectual Property
[03:14]	activelow	just some random thoughts; 30 years later
[03:14]	activelow	to "keep it simple"
[03:18]	TR News	They're going for #monopolies on plants; these villanelles #lawyers want you to think humans "invented" and "own" nature https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1156532/introduction-to-supplementary-protection-certificates-for-plant-protection-products see http://techrights.org/2019/03/08/patents-on-life-in-europe/
[03:18]	TR Bot	 Introduction To Supplementary Protection Certificates For Plant Protection Products - Intellectual Property - UK
[03:18]	TR Bot	 The Tide Has Turned Against Patents on Life in Europe | Techrights
[03:19]	AdmFubar	https://restofworld.org/2022/documents-reputation-laundering-firm-eliminalia/
[03:19]	TR Bot	 Exposed documents reveal how the powerful clean up their digital past using a reputation laundering firm - Rest of World
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[03:20]	TR News	A timely reminder that big pharmaceutical #monopolies not only write the #law but also pass the law to protect themselves using "the law"; they even make up new concepts and terms like "SPCs", quickly exacerbating #inequality by their own design https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1156528/supplementary-protection-certificates-for-medicinal-products
[03:20]	TR Bot	 Supplementary Protection Certificates For Medicinal Products - Intellectual Property - UK
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[03:22]	TR News	"Amendments to the Serbian #Law on #Patents entered into force on December 23, 2021 introducing important changes relating to Supplementary Protection Certificates (SPCs) and utility models." Bending over to monopolies that rip off ill people. https://www.petosevic.com/resources/news/2022/02/4582 #Serbia #Patent
[03:22]	TR Bot	 Serbia Amends Patent Law | PETOEVI
[03:24]	TR News	The EPO's #greenwashing , designed to glorify #monopolies and distract from the EPO's crimes, keeps getting cited by #patent profiteers and fanatics https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/battery-innovation-enhances-ev-9372196/ see http://techrights.org/2021/04/27/epo-greenwashing-stunts/
[03:24]	TR Bot	Innovation Enhances EV Technology, Generates Worldwide Patent Boom | McGlinchey Stafford - JDSupra
[03:26]	TR News	It does not need that. The #litigation firms (like this liar) want any startup to be misled about a system designed to enrich those who are already rich and rip off the rest https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1156500/why-does-my-startup-need-patents see http://techrights.org/2018/06/27/antibodies-and-spc/ #jakemp
[03:26]	TR Bot	 Why Does My Start-Up Need Patents? - Intellectual Property - UK
[03:26]	TR Bot	 J A Kemp Pushing the Boundaries of Patent Scope in Europe With Antibodies and SPCs | Techrights
[03:27]	TR News	Review: PlagueOS R3 and Ultramarine Linux 35 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161176 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[03:27]	TR Bot	 Review: PlagueOS R3 and Ultramarine Linux 35 | Tux Machines
[03:29]	TR News	Another clueless writer who thinks #EPO does #trademarks https://sirusgaming.com/the-dark-pictures-series-five-more-titles-trademarked/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/EPO and http://techrights.org/wiki/EUIPO
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[03:29]	TR Bot	 The Dark Pictures Series Developer Trademarks Five More Games
[03:29]	TR Bot	 EPO - Techrights
[03:29]	TR Bot	 EUIPO - Techrights
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[03:31]	TR News	#Patent #litigation -funded #DennisCrouch still looking to defend defunct #patents https://patentlyo.com/patent/2022/02/federal-circuit-digits.html http://techrights.org/2017/08/30/attacks-on-ptab-intensify/
[03:31]	TR Bot	 Did you get those digits?
[03:31]	TR Bot	 Dennis Crouch, Joined by Gene Quinn (Watchtroll), Still Attacking PTAB to Protect Patent Trolls and Software Patents | Techrights
[03:37]	TR News	Making Something Gorgeous From Framing Lumber | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2022/02/06/making-something-gorgeous-from-framing-lumber/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/07/#latest
[03:37]	TR Bot	Something Gorgeous From Framing Lumber | Hackaday
[03:39]	AdmFubar	https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/meta-stock-price
[03:39]	TR Bot	stock plummets: What it means for antitrust - Protocol The people, power and politics of tech
[03:54]	activelow	gn
[03:57]	MinceR	o/
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[05:53]	AdmFubar	https://www.ghacks.net/2022/02/02/google-is-turning-search-history-tracking-on-for-all-google-workspace-customers/
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[05:54]	TR Bot	 Google is turning search history tracking on for all Google Workspace customers - gHacks Tech News
[05:54]	AdmFubar	https://www.ghacks.net/2022/02/04/microsoft-edge-startup-boost/
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[05:54]	TR Bot	 Microsoft Edge may be running on your Windows PCs, even if you don't use the browser - gHacks Tech News
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[06:11]	DaemonFC	https://www.extremetech.com/internet/331318-microsoft-reportedly-scrapping-its-hololens-3-project
[06:11]	TR Bot	Reportedly Scrapping Its HoloLens 3 Project - ExtremeTech
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[06:30]	TR Bot	 If you do something like this, you are diseased. : LateStageCapitalism
[06:30]	DaemonFC	"Could you please say 'Thank you for keeping me employed.' to the Ring Doorbell? Thank you."
[06:30]	DaemonFC	What the fuck is wrong with people?
[06:31]	DaemonFC	Mom keeps buying junk off of Amazon and then getting surprised that it breaks down months later and she has to carry it to the curb.
[06:33]	DaemonFC	Most of it doesn't last long before it breaks down.
[06:33]	DaemonFC	And Amazon has gotten really really mean about refunds.
[06:34]	DaemonFC	Like, you might get one eventually, but not without more work than it's worth.
[06:35]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, Now mom's latest kick is people on Youtube claiming that eating nothing besides meat cures everything.
[06:36]	DaemonFC	Including bipolar disorder.
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[08:33]	TR News	#Techrights Bulletin for Sunday, February 06, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
[08:33]	TR Bot	 Bulletin Archives
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[08:33]	TR Bot	 Techrights Full IPFS Index
[08:33]	TR News	 #IRC Proceedings: Sunday, February 06, 2022 Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/07/irc-log-060222/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/07/irc-log-060222/
[08:33]	TR Bot	 IRC Proceedings: Sunday, February 06, 2022 | Techrights
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[08:52]	TR News	"There's just something off about Ubuntu these days, this week we put it all together." https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/147582/much-ado-about-ubuntu-linux-unplugged-444/
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[08:52]	TR Bot	 Much Ado About Ubuntu | LINUX Unplugged 444 | Jupiter Broadcasting
[08:53]	TR News	#9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: February 6th, 2022 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161177 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[08:53]	TR Bot	 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: February 6th, 2022 | Tux Machines
[08:57]	TR News	 NEWS #MakeUseOf 9 Practical Examples of the cut Command in GNU (and Linux) https://www.makeuseof.com/cut-command-examples-linux/
[08:57]	TR Bot	 9 Practical Examples of the cut Command in Linux
[08:58]	TR News	 NEWS #Axios #Hardware The next microchip crisis will be bigger https://www.axios.com/microchip-crisis-shortage-taiwan-tsmc-534f5cbb-e49b-4e16-8f9a-6229c08e1779.html
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[08:58]	TR Bot	next microchip crisis will be bigger - Axios
[08:59]	TR News	 NEWS #IndiaTimes #ProprietarySoftware [Crackers] hit Fortune 500 service provider, data of over 500k people leaked https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/digital-security/hackers-hit-fortune-500-service-provider-data-of-over-500k-people-leaked/89395744
[08:59]	TR Bot	 cyber security: Hackers hit Fortune 500 service provider, data of over 500k people leaked, CIO News, ET CIO
[08:59]	TR News	#Microsoft #Windows TCO: #NetMediaEurope #ProprietarySoftware European Oil And Port Facilities Suffer Cyberattacks https://www.silicon.co.uk/security/security-management/european-oil-and-port-facilities-suffer-cyberattacks-440377
[08:59]	TR Bot	 European Oil And Port Facilities Suffer Cyberattacks | Silicon UK Tech News
[08:59]	TR News	#Microsoft #Windows TCO: #EuroNews #ProprietarySoftware Oil terminals disrupted after European ports hit by cyberattack Access to the comments https://www.euronews.com/2022/02/03/oil-terminals-disrupted-after-european-ports-hit-by-cyberattack
[08:59]	TR Bot	terminals disrupted after European ports hit by cyberattack | Euronews
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[09:02]	TR News	#gulag is turning search history tracking on for all Google Workspace customers https://www.ghacks.net/2022/02/02/google-is-turning-search-history-tracking-on-for-all-google-workspace-customers/ #Surveillance #Privacy
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[09:03]	TR Bot	 Google is turning search history tracking on for all Google Workspace customers - gHacks Tech News
[09:03]	TR News	 NEWS #PT #Surveillance #Privacy No ordinary IT department spy agencies seek tech strategy chief https://www.publictechnology.net/articles/news/no-ordinary-it-department--spy-agencies-seek-tech-strategy-chief
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[09:03]	TR Bot	ordinary IT department spy agencies seek tech strategy chief | PublicTechnology.net
[09:03]	TR News	 NEWS #ITWire #Surveillance #Privacy Meta threatens to pull Facebook and #Instagram from Europe if it can't target ads https://itwire.com/listed-tech/meta-threatens-to-pull-facebook-and-instagram-from-europe-if-it-can-t-target-ads.html go away! Good riddance!!!
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[09:03]	TR Bot	- Meta threatens to pull Facebook and Instagram from Europe if it can't target ads
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[09:07]	TR News	#Facebook stock plummets: What it means for #antitrust https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/meta-stock-price
[09:07]	TR Bot	stock plummets: What it means for antitrust - Protocol The people, power and politics of tech
[09:08]	TR News	#microsoft #windows is perpetually #malware https://www.ghacks.net/2022/02/04/microsoft-edge-startup-boost/
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[09:08]	TR Bot	 Microsoft Edge may be running on your Windows PCs, even if you don't use the browser - gHacks Tech News
[09:10]	TR News	#NSOGroup Reportedly Offered 'Bags of Cash' for Access to U.S. Networks https://gizmodo.com/nso-group-reportedly-offered-bags-of-cash-for-access-to-1848460615
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[09:10]	TR Bot	 NSO Group Reportedly Offered 'Bags of Cash' for Access to U.S. Networks
[09:11]	TR News	#Microsoft serves #malware , and not just to #Windows https://www.techtarget.com/searchsecurity/news/252512799/More-than-1000-malware-packages-found-in-NPM-repository
[09:11]	TR Bot	 More than 1,000 malware packages found in NPM repository
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[09:18]	TR News	 NEWS #YLE #Energy #Finland unveils plan for electric aircraft routes across #Lapland region https://yle.fi/news/3-12302109 but where does the power come from? You must charge somehow...
[09:18]	TR Bot	 Finland unveils plan for electric aircraft routes across Lapland region | News | Yle Uutiset
[09:19]	TR News	 NEWS #JacobinMag #Energy New Study: #Gas and #Oil Drilling Doesnt Create Very Many Jobs https://jacobinmag.com/2022/02/api-fracking-employment-ban-fossil-fuels-climate/
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[09:19]	TR Bot	 New Study: Gas and Oil Drilling Doesnt Create Very Many Jobs
[09:19]	TR News	 NEWS #Zimbabwe #Energy #Botswana passes [cryptocurrency] bill, unlike #Zimbabwe they want to stop the scams https://www.techzim.co.zw/2022/02/botswana-passes-crypto-bill-unlike-zim-they-want-to-stop-the-scams/
[09:19]	TR Bot	 Botswana passes crypto bill, unlike Zim they want to stop the scams - Techzim
[09:19]	TR News	 NEWS #Spiegel #Energy #ElSalvador Has Ambitious Plans for Cryptocurrency https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/the-bitcoin-nation-el-salvador-has-ambitious-plans-for-cryptocurrency-a-ca5c747d-7e20-4c88-a3f4-52d11c31ea35
[09:19]	TR Bot	 The Bitcoin Nation: El Salvador Has Ambitious Plans for Cryptocurrency - DER SPIEGEL
[09:19]	TR News	 NEWS #NRDC #Energy [Cryptocurrency] Has a #Climate Problem https://www.nrdc.org/stories/crypto-has-climate-problem
[09:19]	TR Bot	 Crypto Has a Climate Problem | NRDC
[09:23]	TR News	 NEWS #TheEconomist #Politics Metamorphosis: #Facebook and big-tech competition https://www.economist.com/business/2022/02/04/metamorphosis-facebook-and-big-tech-competition?itm_source=parsely-api do not say "big-tech" http://techrights.org/2021/06/29/microsoft-behind-big-tech-narrative/ http://techrights.org/2021/06/24/microsoft-attacking-linux-from-the-inside/
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[09:23]	TR Bot	Facebook and big-tech competition | The Economist
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[09:32]	TR News	#OpenMandriva Lx 4.3 Released with Linux Kernel 5.16, PipeWire by Default, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161178 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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[09:38]	TR News	 NEWS #JacobinMag #Monopolies #Microsoft s #Activision Blizzard Acquisition Wont Save the Games Industry https://jacobinmag.com/2022/02/pc-xbox-labor-sexual-harassment-unionization-exploitation/
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[09:49]	TR News	" #Spotify CEO Daniel Ek addressed staff in a late night memo addressing Joe Rogans use of the n-word and the mysterious removal of 70 podcast episodes earlier this week." https://www.theverge.com/2022/2/6/22921203/spotify-joe-rogan-episode-removal-internal-memo #DRM
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[09:49]	TR News	 NEWS #Variety #DRM #Spotify CEO Apologizes to Staff Over #JoeRogan N-Word Controversy https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/spotify-ceo-apologizes-joe-rogan-n-word-1235173331/
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[09:50]	TR News	 NEWS #HollywoodReporter #DRM #Spotify CEO Addresses Joe Rogans N-Word Use, Doubles Down on Keeping Podcaster on Platform https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/spotify-joe-rogan-daniel-ek-1235087928/
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[09:50]	TR News	 NEWS #TheEconomist #streaming #DRM Disney, Netflix, Apple: is anyone winning the streaming wars? https://www.economist.com/business/disney-netflix-apple-is-anyone-winning-the-streaming-wars/21807591
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[09:51]	TR News	 NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #filesharing Icon #ETTV Officially Shuts Down Due to a Lack of Funds https://torrentfreak.com/piracy-icon-ettv-officially-shuts-down-due-to-a-lack-of-funds-220206/
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[10:08]	TR News	#Patent #extortion agenda in #EU and based on their support of #EPO #corruption it's clear whose side they will take https://www.managingip.com/article/b1wlx6wjsf4n7c/eu-set-to-put-spotlight-on-essentiality-in-new-sep-policy
[10:08]	TR News	PTAB Procedural Decisions Report: Non-Merits Based Decisions Rise, Denials Fall " Unified Patents https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/ptab-procedural-decisions-report #unifiedpatents #uspto #ptab #fakepatents #swpats
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[10:10]	TR News	#Patent Litigation 2022 in #Turkey https://gun.av.tr/insights/guides/patent-litigation-2022-in-turkey looking to profit by attracting #patentTrolls and such to Turkey http://techrights.org/2021/10/31/habip-asan-turkpatent/ #turkpatent
[10:12]	TR News	#Tillis has long been the mole or the "Manchin" of #patent and #copyright fanatics, in effect helping them ram policies that harm the public; but media in the pockets of those same fanatics won't describe him as such https://www.patentdocs.org/2022/02/sen-tillis-asks-acus-to-conduct-study-on-creation-of-us-ip-office.html
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[10:15]	TR News	Hard to believe this is still going; the #patent fanatics (profiteers) want to own or monopolise life itself through #patents and "gene editing" https://www.patentdocs.org/2022/02/broad-files-substantive-preliminary-motion-no-1-to-substitute-the-count.html #crispr
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[10:16]	TR News	Florian Mller: #Apple opposes #Ericsson motion to amend #FRAND complaint in #kangaroocourt of Texas, says its own FRAND case was first properly filed one http://www.fosspatents.com/2022/02/apple-opposes-ericsson-motion-to-amend.html #fosspatents | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/07/#latest
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[10:18]	TR News	For the sake of money the #USPTO runs in auto-pilot, not even checking with the public is something is novel; just grant, grant, grant... https://patentlyo.com/patent/2022/02/third-party-submissions-2.html
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[10:18]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161179 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[10:20]	TR News	#UAE in the monopolists' hegemony, now celebrated by a firm which is inciting public officials to break the law by lying to them https://gowlingwlg.com/en/insights-resources/articles/2022/new-uae-patent-law-what-do-you-need-to-know/ #fakenews firm, #gowlingwlg
[10:22]	TR News	Florian Mller: EPICSSON: #Apple makes public interest statement in #Ericsson #patent case that supports Epic's #antitrust market definition http://www.fosspatents.com/2022/02/epicsson-apple-makes-public-interest.html #fosspatents
[10:24]	TR News	" #DavidKappos quickly reset expectations. And, since then we have seen a steady rise in allowance rate." https://patentlyo.com/patent/2022/02/status-utility-applications.html #kappos = #ibm and #microsoft #corruption http://techrights.org/wiki/David_Kappos
[10:25]	TR News	Stating the obvious https://www.law360.com/technology/articles/1461934/uspto-tells-fed-circ-only-humans-can-be-inventors see http://techrights.org/2021/08/05/patents-for-bots/ #uspto #patents #HeyHi
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[10:26]	TR News	Provocateur #StephenThaler should be spurned based on obviousness -- the obviousness that #patents are not for bots
[10:28]	TR News	#UKIPO ramps up its attack on the interests of the British public https://www.managingip.com/article/b1wm9yf57shvzy/breaking-ukipo-outlines-five-year-ip-enforcement-plan see http://techrights.org/2021/10/10/epo-uk-ac-delegates/ #uk #monopolies
[10:30]	TR News	#EPO management sends a case to a #kangaroocourt , which it clearly controls in direct and obvious violation of the #EPC https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1157446/new-referral-to-the-epo-enlarged-board-of-appeal-on-the-entitlement-to-priority see http://techrights.org/2021/06/26/g-121-epo-catastrophe/
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[11:00]	TR News	#Security and #ProprietarySoftware Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161180 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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[11:04]	TR News	Links 7/2/2022: #OpenMandriva Lx 4.3 Released and Lots About Patents Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/07/openmandriva-lx-4-3/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/07/openmandriva-lx-4-3/
[11:04]	TR News	Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161181 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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[11:23]	psydroid4	are companies actually moving away from Windows on desktops and servers even more so than before? any evidence of such moves?
[11:23]	psydroid4	their PR is world-class, their products have no class
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[11:49]	XRevan86	MinceR: Good point, but even Trusting Trust can be reasonably mitigated without TinyCC involved: GCC Clang GCC
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[13:24]	TR News	Best #FreeSW Alternatives to IBM Maximo Application Suite Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161182 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[13:24]	TR News	Twine: #FreeSW Tool for Making Games with Words, aka Interactive Fiction Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161183 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[13:24]	TR News	#LibreOffice ecosystem interview: Caoln McNamara at Red Hat Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161184 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[13:24]	TR News	#BitTorrent Client Fragments 2.0 for Linux is Here, Rebuilt Using Rust with a New UI Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161185 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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[13:25]	TR News	#Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161186 #Linux #TuxMachines
[13:25]	TR News	#Flatpak App of the Week: Fragments Modern #BitTorrent Client for the GNOME Desktop Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161187 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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[13:54]	TR News	Nobody Should be Above the Law Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/07/the-above-the-law-complex/ #Techrights #EPO #Europe #Corruption #Immunity | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/07/the-above-the-law-complex/
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[14:12]	TR News	[Meme] Drunk on Power and Diplomatic #Immunity Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/07/epo-diplomatic-immunity-meme/ #Techrights #Europe #Corruption #Impunity | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/07/epo-diplomatic-immunity-meme/
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[14:17]	TR News	#epo breaks the #law and grants #swpats using buzzwords and semantic nonsense. "This whole technical effect doctrine need to go to the bin." http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/02/01/top-4-changes-to-the-2022-epo-guidelines-for-examination/#comment-39294
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[14:21]	TR News	New video re part 43 on #epo #corruption http://techrights.org/2022/02/07/the-above-the-law-complex/ #Techrights
[14:23]	TR News	Decided to do a detailed video about the proxy! The gemini proxy of #techrights which I think is ready for wider use now. http://gemini.techrights.org/
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[14:29]	bnchs__	did you reboot the bot?
[14:29]	TR News	Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161188 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[14:29]	TR Bot	 Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
[14:31]	schestowitz-TR	I did, yes
[14:31]	schestowitz-TR	there are 5 of them, one for each important channel
[14:32]	schestowitz-TR	some URL from a MSG hours ago crashed 2 of them
[14:42]	MinceR	07 124909 < XRevan86> MinceR: Good point, but even Trusting Trust can be reasonably mitigated without TinyCC involved: GCC Clang GCC
[14:42]	MinceR	i don't see how
[14:42]	MinceR	for one thing, GCC and Clang/LLVM could both have the same backdoor built in
[14:43]	XRevan86	MinceR: The backdoor would have to be adapted for injection into both codebases.
[14:43]	XRevan86	and codebases are a moving target too
[14:45]	XRevan86	I'm referring to an issue of having a backdoored compiler binary that when building a compiler injects the backdoor into the compilation result, thus reproducing the backdoor.
[14:51]	bnchs__	doesn't that happen in rust
[14:52]	XRevan86	It's not immune.
[14:58]	schestowitz-TR	rust has HR crisis this year
[14:58]	schestowitz-TR	many resignations
[14:58]	schestowitz-TR	in bulk even
[14:58]	schestowitz-TR	but hery
[14:58]	schestowitz-TR	if you want to make linux DEPENDENT on it
[14:58]	schestowitz-TR	be my guest
[14:58]	schestowitz-TR	linus will outline rust
[14:59]	schestowitz-TR	but rust will become a liability and yoke
[14:59]	schestowitz-TR	linux: 30 years
[14:59]	schestowitz-TR	gcc: over 35
[14:59]	schestowitz-TR	rust: a few years
[14:59]	schestowitz-TR	and already pissing its core people off
[14:59]	schestowitz-TR	in Micerosoft github
[14:59]	schestowitz-TR	where you are not allowed to criticise criminal Microsoft
● Feb 07
[15:00]	schestowitz-TR	criminaks have feelings too
[15:00]	schestowitz-TR	we should be excellent to each other
[15:00]	schestowitz-TR	to criminals too
[15:00]	schestowitz-TR	don't offend them
[15:00]	schestowitz-TR	it huts feelings
[15:00]	schestowitz-TR	bad bad bad
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[15:13]	TR Bot	 Self-Hosted Gemini Proxy (HTTP and HTTPS) | Techrights
[15:14]	bnchs__	rust is still a memelang
[15:15]	bnchs__	trying to rewrite a entire kernel in it would be retarded
[15:15]	bnchs__	and would be bad in the long-term
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[15:17]	schestowitz-TR	ask tor
[15:17]	schestowitz-TR	they hired ian jackson iirc
[15:17]	schestowitz-TR	to do rust  for them
[15:17]	schestowitz-TR	i think they want a rustlang-based tor
[15:17]	bnchs___	there are platforms that don't have LLVM support
[15:17]	schestowitz-TR	nothing says privacy like nsa shithub ^_^
[15:17]	schestowitz-TR	get tor today
[15:17]	schestowitz-TR	gegt rust
[15:17]	schestowitz-TR	go to mivrosoft
[15:17]	bnchs___	and rewriting shit in rust would absolutely ruin portablity
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[15:17]	schestowitz-TR	download binaries
[15:17]	schestowitz-TR	from nsa
[15:18]	schestowitz-TR	nsa would NEVER alter binaries for youy
[15:18]	schestowitz-TR	never
[15:18]	schestowitz-TR	like intercepting parcels
[15:18]	bnchs___	did they intercept packages during delivery and put chips on them
[15:18]	schestowitz	https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/nsa-linux-journal-extremist-forum-and-its-readers-get-flagged-extra-surveillance
[15:18]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: linuxjournal.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/nsa-linux-journal-extremist-forum-and-its-readers-get-flagged-extra-surveillance
[15:18]	TR Bot	 NSA: Linux Journal is an "extremist forum" and its readers get flagged for extra surveillance | Linux Journal
[15:19]	schestowitz	they rry to make lists of people who wish to download tor
[15:19]	schestowitz	no portion of tor should touch microsoft/nssa
[15:19]	schestowitz	github hired leaders from nsa 
[15:19]	schestowitz	which reaffirmed the fears
[15:19]	schestowitz	github is just imperialism
[15:19]	bnchs___	they'll flag anyone who downloads any operating systems other than windows or macOS an extremist
[15:19]	schestowitz	"hegemony" as they call it
[15:20]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2019/07/28/linux-foundation-microsoft-outsourcing/
[15:20]	TR Bot	 People From Half a Dozen Countries May be Banned From Participating in the Linux Foundation Because Its Outsourcing Many Projects to Microsoft/GitHub | Techrights
[15:20]		*schestowitz claps for inclusion
[15:21]	bnchs___	people from any forbidden country will be banned from free software
[15:21]	schestowitz-TR	yees, they cannot participare
[15:21]	schestowitz-TR	"sorry, brown lady, you cannot hang with us, the "koool" kidzzz.."
[15:22]	bnchs___	tor is good for this
[15:22]	schestowitz-TR	they call themselves "woke"a\
[15:22]	schestowitz-TR	and then they do this
[15:22]	schestowitz-TR	banning persians, too
[15:22]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2021/08/20/we-build-fedora-and-then-ibm-blacklists-us/
[15:22]	TR Bot	 Imperialistic Blacklist Machines: Racist IBM and Red Hat Just Like Donald Trump Have Turned Fedora Into an Utterly Racist Project That Blacklists, Shuns and Permanently Bans People Based on Their Nationality Alone | Techrights
[15:22]	schestowitz-TR	IBM should amend the CoC
[15:22]	schestowitz-TR	it shoiuld say: our coduct says "noMulsims"
[15:23]	schestowitz-TR	then IBM will pay a bunch of clappers say it's to "protect women"
[15:23]		*schestowitz-TR gets keyboard back in hand
[15:23]	schestowitz-TR	sorry about typos, I was standing up
[15:23]	schestowitz-TR	let me share something recent
[15:25]	schestowitz	found it
[15:25]	schestowitz	redacted a bit
[15:25]	schestowitz	[02:41] <ssssssssss> Got my post back too
[15:25]	schestowitz	[02:42] <schestowitz> Twitter?
[15:25]	schestowitz	[02:42] <schestowitz> they are awful
[15:25]	schestowitz	[02:42] <schestowitz> http://techrights.org/2022/01/18/ibm-censorship/
[15:25]	schestowitz	[02:42] <ssssssssss> Yep
[15:25]	TR Bot	 Someone Is Very Desperate to Knock My Account Off Twitter | Techrights
[15:25]	schestowitz	[02:43] <ssssssssss> Yeah, i think it's algorithmic [02:43] <schestowitz> no
[15:25]	schestowitz	[02:43] <schestowitz> someone reported these
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[15:25]	schestowitz	[02:43] <ssssssssss> Like it can't determine if you're for or against something[02:43] <schestowitz> probably IBM
[15:25]	schestowitz	[02:44] <ssssssssss> Right but the moderators are bots
[15:25]	schestowitz	[02:44] <ssssssssss> Sentiment analysis is notoriously faulty
[15:25]	schestowitz	[02:45] <ssssssssss> Tallpoppy is trying to create silence as a service
[15:25]	schestowitz	[02:46] <ssssssssss> Under the guise of protecting minorities from harassment
[15:25]	schestowitz	[02:47] <schestowitz> in this case, a minority gets used to protect IBM from facts
[15:25]	schestowitz	[02:47] <schestowitz> about how it helped genocide
[15:25]	schestowitz	[02:48] <ssssssssss> I mean it's true that IBM aided genocide
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[15:25]	schestowitz	[02:48] <ssssssssss> It's not an act of discrimination to mention that
[15:25]	schestowitz	[02:48] <ssssssssss> I think Twitter just flags everything that has the word Nazi in it[02:48] <ssssssssss> At least after it's reported
[15:26]	schestowitz	[02:48] <ssssssssss> But the thing is there algorithm probably put a checkmark against you
[15:26]	schestowitz	[02:54] <ssssssssss> Tiktok does something similar
[15:26]	schestowitz	[02:54] <ssssssssss> You can't even say Nazi in a negative light
[15:26]	MinceR	i did nazi that coming
[15:28]	TR News	Sometimes when thinks break you end up with something better than before. We needed to fix http://techrights.org/git/ some week ago as we had noticed that this third-party gateway/www proxy of Gemini, while it generally works when you visit it, does not work, either as iframe or for our capsule. So we made our own.
[15:28]	TR Bot	 Techrights Git (Self-Hosted) | Techrights
[15:28]	MinceR	https://hugelolcdn.com/i/808818.jpg
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[15:29]	TR News	Not sure why... but some Gemini users suggest that their client software isn't compatible with what we use at the server side (Debian 11). And same for http://techrights.org/gemini ("The server sent an empty response" = added to list of exclusions at their end?) before we rolled out our own proxy...
[15:29]	TR Bot	 Techrights on Gemini | Techrights
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[15:55]	TR News	Cause of chip shortage discovered: the chipmakers sent all the chips to Michael Larabel's home.
[15:57]	MinceR	lol
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[16:10]	MinceR	https://hugelolcdn.com/i/808684.png
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[16:10]	psydroid4	Michael's warehouse
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[16:45]	schestowitz	activelow: good news
[16:45]	schestowitz	we found the 'issue', I think
[16:45]	schestowitz	tls 1.3 only was enabled
[16:45]	schestowitz	but your client probably lacks support for it
[16:45]	schestowitz	and insists on outdated protocols
[16:46]	MinceR	(cat) (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvhoVwGKE3U   (mirror: https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/a-riveting-conversation-with-clinton-the:1 )
[16:46]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: odysee.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/a-riveting-conversation-with-clinton-the:1
[16:46]	TR Bot	riveting conversation with Clinton the cat - YouTube
[16:46]	TR Bot	 A riveting conversation with Clinton the cat
[16:47]	activelow	schestowitz: test failed.
[16:47]	activelow	same symptom remaining.
[16:50]	schestowitz	activelow: try now
[16:51]	schestowitz	we did not update until 60 secs ago
[16:55]	activelow	different symptom now: [request failed] at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/; the ssl error is gone
[16:56]	schestowitz-TR	odd
[16:57]	schestowitz-TR	try flushing out cert cache?
[16:57]	schestowitz-TR	or application data?
[16:57]	activelow	there is none, various other gemini links are 100% functional
[16:58]	activelow	schestowitz-TR: now it is working again. problem solved. thanks.
[16:58]	schestowitz-TR	hurrah
[16:59]	activelow	goot to know it was missing tls-1.3 support with my client
● Feb 07
[17:03]	schestowitz-TR	https://nitter.eu/zoobab/status/1490709170030534665#m
[17:03]	TR Bot	 zoobab "NO Software Patents" (@zoobab): "EPO: "scandals in the EPO, many of my colleagues have retired with a big file containing confidential documents, a kind of insurance against bullying from the Office. At the end, truth will emerge." http://techrights.org/2022/02/06/video-about-the-42th-part/" | nitter
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[17:06]	schestowitz-TR	activelow: for more info see #boycottnovell
[17:06]	schestowitz-TR	we were trying to debug these things
[17:08]	TR News	#EPO Pays Out Millions of Euros in Compensation - to Thousands of Workers Who Deserve a Lot More for Moral Damage - for Battistellis Illegal Acts (But #Battistelli Himself Has Not Been Punished at All, Nor Have His Enablers) Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/07/epo-moral-damage/ #Techrights #Europe #Corruption | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/07/epo-moral-damage/
[17:08]	TR Bot	 EPO Pays Out Millions of Euros in Compensation to Thousands of Workers Who Deserve a Lot More for Moral Damage for Battistellis Illegal Acts (But Battistelli Himself Has Not Been Punished at All, Nor Have His Enablers) | Techrights
[17:16]	MinceR	https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/internet-4
[17:16]	TR Bot	 Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Internet
[17:26]	TR News	The #EPO regime of #BenotBattistelli and #AntnioCampinos has demonstrated that immunity begets #impunity , which in turn gives an incentive to commit crimes, making corruption the norm; if European officials fail to tackle this problem, the #EU too will be at risk due to legitimacy problems Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/07/the-above-the-law-complex/
[17:26]	TR Bot	 Nobody Should be Above the Law | Techrights
[17:27]	TR News	When you let unqualified (in the area of patents) psychopaths run the #EPO you can expect the worst; #BenotBattistelli and #AntnioCampinos have repeatedly misused diplomatic #immunity to avoid investigation and possible prosecution http://techrights.org/2022/02/07/epo-diplomatic-immunity-meme/
[17:27]	TR Bot	 [Meme] Drunk on Power and Diplomatic Immunity | Techrights
[17:28]	TR News	Easing peoples transition to #Geminispace using a Web proxy is a long-term objective, seeing that some people are intimidated by the idea of using something other than a #Webbrowser for hypertext (interconnected pages with textual formatting) http://techrights.org/2022/02/07/http-and-https-gemini-proxy/ #geminiprotocol
[17:28]	TR Bot	 Self-Hosted Gemini Proxy (HTTP and HTTPS) | Techrights
[17:28]	TR News	#suepo pushing ahead for #justice after more than a decade of chronic, ongoing, systematic injustice, which saw the rule of law abolished, patent quality as collateral damage, and Europe's reputation/leadership in tatters Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/07/epo-moral-damage/ #Techrights #EPO | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/07/epo-moral-damage/
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[17:49]	MinceR	https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/reddit-different-color-things-8.jpg
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[17:55]	TR News	Qualcomm IPQ8076A WiFi 6E access point offers dual 10GbE http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/160933#comment-32748
[17:55]	TR Bot	 DeskPi Lite - A Raspberry Pi 4 enclosure with full HDMI ports, two extra USB ports | Tux Machines
[17:56]	TR News	The road to Fragments 2.0 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161185#comment-32749
[17:56]	TR Bot	 BitTorrent Client 'Fragments 2.0' for Linux is Here, Rebuilt Using Rust with a New UI | Tux Machines
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[18:00]	TR News	Good news from #eponia today, for a change... http://techrights.org/2022/02/07/epo-moral-damage/ #suepo #ilo #iloat #epo
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[18:13]	TR News	I seriously consider dumping the LAST and ONLY thing from #gulag I still use, albeit over RSS... #gulagnoise (some people still call it "Google News" despite the truly awful s/n ratio, lots of spam, manipulation, FUD for "engagement"... promotional corporate spam dressed up as news... basically like #socialcontrolmedia but with "news" level... sponsored 'journalism' with curated 'trends')
[18:15]	TR News	Removing #gulag from one's life is difficult in areas where they have complete #monopoly (or near monopoly), usually search-related things which require a lot of indexing very rapidly (very, very expensive at scale)
[18:16]	TR News	Just to be clear, #duckduckgo or #ddg is NOT an alternative to #gulag !!! It's more like a malicious #microsoft proxy that spies on you and operates out of MICROSOFT (read: NSA) servers. See http://techrights.org/2021/03/15/duckduckgo-in-2021/
[18:16]	TR Bot	 Why You Should Avoid DuckDuckGo (DDG) 2021 Edition, Now Microsoft-Hosted and With Extra Privacy Risks | Techrights
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[18:25]	TR News	Very disturbing that #uk #bank #halifax has outsourcedd to #microsoft for #email [sic] ... this is like an open invitation for the bank and its clients' or customers' accounts to be cracked. No lack of technical failings and a bad track record.
[18:54]	MinceR	(audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rYOkIphBgE   (mirror, if it will ever actually load: https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/political-partisanship-makes-its-way-to:e )
[18:54]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: odysee.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/political-partisanship-makes-its-way-to:e
[18:54]	TR Bot	partisanship makes its way to Right to Repair. What a fail :( - YouTube
[18:54]	TR Bot	 Political partisanship makes its way to Right to Repair. What a fail :(
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[19:05]	TR News	#reddit https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/reddit-different-color-things-8.jpg
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[19:06]	schestowitz	MinceR: thanks
[19:06]	schestowitz	it does not load sometimes
[19:06]	schestowitz	in falkon
[19:07]	schestowitz	they won't just give a video file
[19:07]	schestowitz	instead it's all "apps" and stuff
[19:07]	schestowitz	"webapps"
[19:07]	schestowitz	JS
[19:07]	schestowitz	and other such things
[19:07]	schestowitz	tbh, all these videos should never play in a browser
[19:07]	XRevan86	schestowitz: Try passing that link to MPV.
[19:07]	schestowitz	you should link the browser to a media player
[19:07]	XRevan86	if yt-dlp is installed :)
[19:07]	schestowitz	and when trying to view some video it should open there
[19:07]	schestowitz	browser is for browsing
[19:08]	schestowitz	XRevan86: ah, yes, same for vlc
[19:08]	schestowitz	but the OS does not integrate it like that
[19:08]	schestowitz	every link -> browser
[19:08]	schestowitz	maybe except irc:// and some stuff 
[19:09]	XRevan86	schestowitz: I don't think VLC supports passing links to yt-dlp
[19:11]	TR News	#Montenegro ratifies something which does not even exist because it is being violated routinely without any consequences to the violators https://www.petosevic.com/resources/news/2022/02/4581 see http://techrights.org/2019/08/10/violating-the-epc/
[19:11]	TR Bot	 Montenegro Ratifies EPC, Amends Patent and Copyright Laws | PETOEVI
[19:11]	TR Bot	 The EPO is Still Violating the EPC Every Day | Techrights
[19:15]	TR News	#gulagnoise of #googlenews now adding #blogspot blogs to its "news" sources. #gulag (Google): there are news sites! They are blogs. We control them. Google links to Google...
[19:19]	TR News	#EPO #patents versus human lives or public health https://www.shlegal.com/insights/the-boundaries-of-causing-loss-by-unlawful-means-secretary-of-state-for-health-v-servier #nhs #uk
[19:19]	TR Bot	 The boundaries of causing loss by unlawful means: Secretary of State for Health v Servier
[19:21]	bnchs___	schestowitz: if the websites were sane, i'm pretty sure they would use html5 video only
[19:21]	bnchs___	but unfortuanely they fell for the "don't download my videos"
[19:28]	TR News	Company With Great Skill https://assets.amuniversal.com/0129e460628c013a9525005056a9545d
[19:29]	schestowitz	bnchs___: yes, "coz all the pirassies"
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[19:52]	DaemonFC	https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/smr8h5/hmm_something_feels_wrong/
[19:52]	TR Bot	 Hmm something feels wrong : LateStageCapitalism
[19:53]	DaemonFC	CNBC sez: 25 year old making $100,000 has $825 rent, $40 for a cell phone, $20 for internet, rent is $825, and a maid costs $30 each month.
[19:53]	DaemonFC	Oh boy. I'd like to know where.
[19:53]	TR News	The EPOs Overseer/Overseen #Collusion Part XXXXIV: Immunity = Impunity? Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/07/immunity-and-impunity/ #Techrights #EPO #Europe #Corruption | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/07/immunity-and-impunity/
[19:53]	TR Bot	 The EPOs Overseer/Overseen Collusion Part XXXXIV: Immunity = Impunity? | Techrights
[19:54]	DaemonFC	The first think that T-Mobile does as soon as they can pry two lines off a Sprint plan is raise it from $90 a month to $130, and that's pre-tax.
[19:55]	DaemonFC	Oh yeah, and they take away your free AAA membership, so have fun paying for that each year.
[19:59]	XRevan86	"20$ internet?! Where lol that shit is like 150$" <- Annually?
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[20:09]	TR News	Improving #LibreOffice s network file access Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161190 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[20:09]	TR Bot	 Improving LibreOffices network file access | Tux Machines
[20:09]	TR News	Add four PCIe x1 slots to #RaspberryPi CM4 IO with Waveshare PCIe-Packet-Switch-4P board Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161189 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[20:09]	TR Bot	 Add four PCIe x1 slots to Raspberry Pi CM4 IO with Waveshare PCIe-Packet-Switch-4P board | Tux Machines
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[20:15]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: yes
[20:15]	schestowitz	oligarchs' media
[20:15]	schestowitz	does this all the time
[20:15]	schestowitz	fictional families
[20:15]	schestowitz	to make you feel inadequate and insecure
[20:15]	schestowitz	and chase money
[20:15]	schestowitz	they show "household incomes" of like $300k a year
[20:16]	schestowitz	like BillBC promotes in its home-hunting shows couples  that look for milliion-dollar homes
[20:16]	schestowitz	they don't want to show either poverty or reality
[20:16]	schestowitz	they have a lot to gain from these false narratives
[20:16]	schestowitz	like TV shows being full of beautiful people
[20:16]	schestowitz	TikTok bans or hides ugly people
[20:16]	schestowitz	and got caught
[20:17]	TR News	This New Linux Distro Combines #Fedora With Great Gaming Software Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161191 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[20:17]	TR Bot	 This New Linux Distro Combines Fedora With Great Gaming Software | Tux Machines
[20:19]	TR News	5 Reasons to Install #GNULinux on an Old Computer Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161192 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[20:19]	TR Bot	 5 Reasons to Install Linux on an Old Computer | Tux Machines
[20:21]	DaemonFC	Yeah, then when people ask why they're broke it's always "Make coffee at home!".
[20:22]	DaemonFC	If the average income is $300,000 a year, who cares where you get coffee?
[20:22]	DaemonFC	Nobody's broke anymore. CNBC said so!
[20:22]	bnchs	tiktok actually shadowbans ugly people
[20:22]	bnchs	their videos appear only if they're logged in as themselves
[20:22]	bnchs	but wont if they logged out
[20:23]	DaemonFC	Yeah, Mandy watches those stupid TikTok videos.
[20:23]	DaemonFC	It's annoying. Extremely annoying.
[20:23]	DaemonFC	Between that and tapping on his damned freemium games all day.
[20:24]	bnchs	tiktok's only purpose is mindless entertainment
[20:24]	bnchs	it's just dumb shit meant to keep kids eyes on the phone always
[20:25]	DaemonFC	It's over now. We've solved social rot entirely.
[20:25]	DaemonFC	Everyone makes at least $100,000.
[20:25]	bnchs	what about brain rot
[20:25]	DaemonFC	Here's a pie chart showing your $800 rent and $20 phone.
[20:25]	DaemonFC	:)
[20:26]	DaemonFC	bbiab
[20:28]	bnchs	i remember when kids shows didn't have shit like dragqueens
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[20:34]	MinceR	https://i.imgur.com/xMYOO2y.png
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[20:47]	TR News	#PinePhone call quality Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161193 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[20:47]	TR Bot	 PinePhone call quality | Tux Machines
[20:47]	TR News	#RPi HAT features high-frequency RFID reading at up to 200 tags/sec. Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161194 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[20:47]	TR Bot	 RPi HAT features high-frequency RFID reading at up to 200 tags/sec. | Tux Machines
[20:47]	TR News	#Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161195 #Linux #TuxMachines
[20:47]	TR Bot	 Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
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[21:01]	XRevan86	https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pipewire/wireplumber/-/releases/0.4.8
[21:01]	TR Bot	 0.4.8 PipeWire / wireplumber GitLab
[21:19]	MinceR	https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/sarcasm-only-instagram-memes-15.jpg
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[21:27]	schestowitz	bnchs__: hello
[21:27]	schestowitz	XRevan86: another one?
[21:28]	XRevan86	schestowitz: That's the session manager, the previous release was 3 weeks ago.
[21:30]	bnchs__	"audio and video server"
[21:30]	bnchs__	do one thing at a time
[21:31]	XRevan86	bnchs__: PipeWire is multi-process, ye can run two instances each with a designated task if ye want :)
[21:33]	XRevan86	Or cherry-pick the tasks. Like only run the JACK component and nothing else.
[21:37]	TR News	3ZorinOS 16 Educational Spin Now Available http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161061#comment-32750
[21:37]	TR Bot	 Zorin OS 16 Education Launches with New Educational Apps, System Improvements | Tux Machines
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[21:38]	TR News	#QubesOS 4.1.0 released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161119#comment-32751
[21:38]	TR Bot	 Qubes OS 4.1.0 has been released! | Tux Machines
[21:39]	TR News	#GNOME #BitTorrent Client Fragments 2.0 Released! #GTK4 , Libadwaita & Remote Control http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161185#comment-32752
[21:39]	TR Bot	 BitTorrent Client 'Fragments 2.0' for Linux is Here, Rebuilt Using Rust with a New UI | Tux Machines
[21:41]	XRevan86	bnchs__: Besides, video and audio are not that independent, especially when latency is involved.
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[21:44]	XRevan86	So it's not just that PipeWire is a single tool used for all data streams, that can also help synchronise the streams of audio and video.
[21:47]	XRevan86	bnchs__: And is it bad that it tackles both low-latency and regular audio at the same time removing the need for a JACK/PulseAudio combination?
[21:49]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 19.96 k/sec., IPFS upstream 19.21 average k/sec., average swarm size 260.84
[21:51]	MinceR	(cat) https://ircz.de/p/22020537
[21:51]	TR Bot	 IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/ss6uqe4v5tf81.jpg created on 2022-02-05 15:29:35.169101
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[21:59]	TR News	"Want to play more games on Arm devices? Projects like #Box86 and Box64 do already exist but is there a better option? FEX-Emu sounds like it's going to be another great open source way to do what you want." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/fex-emu-is-a-promising-project-for-gaming-on-64bit-arm
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[21:59]	TR Bot	is a promising project for gaming on 64bit Arm | GamingOnLinux
● Feb 07
[22:00]	TR News	" #BoilingSteam looks at the latest data dumps from #ProtonDB to give you a list of new games that work perfectly on #GNU #Linux with Proton since Jan 2022" https://boilingsteam.com/top-10-new-games-you-can-play-on-linux-with-proton-feb-2022-edition/
[22:00]	TR Bot	 Top 10 New Games You Can Play on Linux with Proton - Feb 2022 Edition - Boiling Steam
[22:01]	TR News	Steam Deck Previews are up, plus dbrand announce Project Killswitch | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/steam-deck-previews-are-up-plus-dbrand-announce-project-killswitch/ #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games
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[22:01]	TR Bot	Deck Previews are up, plus dbrand announce Project Killswitch | GamingOnLinux
[22:02]	TR News	Building a Retro #GNULinux Gaming Computer - Part 11: Forgotten Heresies | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/building-a-retro-linux-gaming-computer-part-11-forgotten-heresies #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux
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[22:02]	TR Bot	a Retro Linux Gaming Computer - Part 11: Forgotten Heresies | GamingOnLinux
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[22:04]	TR News	"An application that has only become more important with the Steam Deck, since it ships with Linux and #EpicGames don't support #GNU #Linux with their store." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/heroic-games-launcher-for-epic-games-on-linux-gets-some-more-fixes/
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[22:04]	TR Bot	Games Launcher for Epic Games on Linux gets some more fixes | GamingOnLinux
[22:06]	TR News	"They're the future of Linux app distribution. Distros like Elementary, Pop, and even Steam OS support them by default. So here's what they are, how they work, and a bit of their history!" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=0OZ7UvIgqjc
[22:06]	TR Bot	 If you're not using Flatpaks, you're doing Linux wrong. - Invidious
[22:07]	TR News	"I rarely touch my middle mouse button but it turns out it has a lot more power than I ever knew, there's the obvious autoscroll feature in browsers which I didn't know worked on Linux but there's so much more" "https://yewtu.be/watch?v=0JxosKyFgbM
[22:07]	TR Bot	 Middle Mouse On Linux Is Incredibly Powerful - Invidious
[22:07]	bnchs__	i hope steam decks isn't one of valve's secret tactics to undermine GNU/Linux
[22:07]	bnchs__	including linustechtips
[22:08]	XRevan86	If "undermine" means making it something gamers might actually consider then yes.
[22:08]	TR News	"Why FOSS is unlikely to gain traction in education, whats great about Discourse, Linux gaming, the uncertain future of Termux, our thoughts on Snap and Flatpak, and more." https://latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-163/
[22:08]	TR Bot	 Late Night Linux Episode 163 Late Night Linux
[22:08]	bnchs__	i mean undermine it with an issue
[22:08]	schestowitz-TR	oin general?
[22:08]	bnchs__	that makes gnu/linux look bad
[22:08]	XRevan86	Steam Deck's competition is Windows machines.
[22:08]	schestowitz-TR	oir as a free sofwtare OS?
[22:08]	bnchs__	as a free software OS
[22:08]	schestowitz-TR	because drm adn rootkits don't help the latter
[22:08]	bnchs__	remember his pop!OS video
[22:08]	schestowitz-TR	but they do help expand the userbase of that kernel and also kde
[22:09]	bnchs__	in general i mean
[22:09]	TR News	Linux Kernel getting prepped for the #SteamDeck | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/linux-kernel-getting-prepped-for-the-steam-deck #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games
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[22:09]	TR Bot	Kernel getting prepped for the Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux
[22:10]	bnchs__	you know, steam's package conflicts
[22:10]	XRevan86	bnchs__: https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0569/2771/5482/files/AYANEO_2021_Pro_Details_Page_JPG_Mobile_210731_9.jpg
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[22:10]	XRevan86	AYANEO 2021 Pro, a handheld PC.
[22:10]	TR News	"NFT" in an acronym, short for #SCAM https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/indie-store-itchio-comes-out-swinging-against-nfts #itch is right; kudos to them...
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[22:10]	TR Bot	store itch.io comes out swinging against NFTs | GamingOnLinux
[22:11]	XRevan86	bnchs__: Notice something about it? :)
[22:11]	bnchs__	it's chinese windows?
[22:11]	TR News	#freesw evolution sim Thrive adds a new cell to grow with | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/open-source-evolution-sim-thrive-adds-a-new-cell-to-grow-with #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games
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[22:11]	TR Bot	source evolution sim Thrive adds a new cell to grow with | GamingOnLinux
[22:12]	XRevan86	bnchs__: It's Windows in general.
[22:12]	bnchs__	yes
[22:12]	bnchs__	windows in arm?
[22:12]	XRevan86	x86
[22:12]	XRevan86	It's a lot like Steam Deck.
[22:13]	TR News	" #OpenMW is a fantastic open source game engine reimplementation for #Morrowind , plus there's the online fork of TES3MP which has sprung back to life with a new release." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/online-multiplayer-for-openmw-morrowind-tes3mp-is-alive-again
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[22:13]	TR Bot	multiplayer for OpenMW (Morrowind) TES3MP is alive again | GamingOnLinux
[22:13]	bnchs__	what about Xash3D
[22:13]	XRevan86	But unlike Steam Deck, its goal is not to "undermine" GNU/Linux, if ye know what I mean.
[22:13]	bnchs__	you can play counter strike multiplayer on it
[22:14]	XRevan86	Not compatible with vanilla multiplayer, but yes.
[22:14]	bnchs__	XRevan86, by running windows?
[22:14]	XRevan86	bnchs__: Yes.
[22:15]	bnchs__	xash3D has portions of leaked source code on it anyway
[22:16]	bnchs__	i hope they can rewrite those
[22:16]	TR News	"In episode 24 of the WordPress Briefing, the Projects Executive Director reviews three big-picture goals for the year: Increased Gutenberg adoption, support of all open source alternatives, and stewarding the open source ethos." https://wordpress.org/news/2022/02/episode-24-three-goals-in-2022/
[22:16]	TR Bot	Episode 24: Three Goals in 2022 WordPress.org
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[22:18]	bnchs__	until that day comes, they're at valve's mercy
[22:21]	TR News	#Games: FEX-Emu, Steam, Free Software Games, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161196 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[22:21]	TR Bot	 Games: FEX-Emu, Steam, Free Software Games, and More | Tux Machines
[22:21]	TR News	161197
[22:21]	TR News	Audiocasts/Shows: WordPress Briefing, Late Night Linux, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161197 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[22:21]	TR Bot	 Audiocasts/Shows: WordPress Briefing, Late Night Linux, and More | Tux Machines
[22:24]	TR News	The EPOs administration has come to the point where it shamelessly and systematically misuses immunity to break the law without any consequences either to ringleaders such as #BenotBattistelli and #AntnioCampinos Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/07/immunity-and-impunity/ #Techrights #EPO #corruption| Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/07/immunity-and-impunity/
[22:24]	TR Bot	 The EPOs Overseer/Overseen Collusion Part XXXXIV: Immunity = Impunity? | Techrights
[22:28]	TR News	#HowTo Test Various Linux Distros Online Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161198 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[22:28]	TR Bot	 How to Test Various Linux Distros Online | Tux Machines
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[22:38]	DaemonFC	I love Illinois. If you attack a pregnant woman it's "attempted intentional homicide of an unborn baby", but if a woman goes to the doctor to commit intentional homicide of an unborn baby, they call it reproductive freedom.
[22:39]	DaemonFC	Really the only difference is was it the mom that decided to kill it and was it a doctor who carried out the hit.
[22:39]	DaemonFC	https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/chicago-man-followed-pregnant-woman-after-altercation-shot-her-while-driving-in-willowbrook-prosecutors
[22:39]	TR Bot	 Chicago man followed pregnant woman after altercation, shot her while driving in Willowbrook: prosecutors
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[22:41]	DaemonFC	Hell-inois.....Felonious.......
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[22:42]	DaemonFC	Felonois, rather....
[22:42]	DaemonFC	Autocorrect fail.
[22:46]	AdmFubar	https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/peter-thiel-steps-down-meta
[22:46]	TR Bot	Thiel will step down from Meta's board - Protocol The people, power and politics of tech
[22:52]	psydroid4	Valve getting into Steam Deck and making native versions of their games for x86 GNU/Linux and making x86 Windows games playable is about self-preservation
[22:53]	psydroid4	Microsoft can buy big gaming studios and put smaller companies that don't "comply" out of business simply by cloning their product and bundling it with Windows or some kind of subscription that is advertised in or with Windows
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[22:55]	psydroid4	that doesn't mean Valve is our friend, but if they can take some market share from Microsoft that will open up the market for more companies
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