●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, June 07, 2022 ●● ● Jun 07 [00:00] DaemonFC I'd throw it all away if he'll be okay. I always figure out a way to recover from terrible things. [00:00] DaemonFC Seems like all I do sometimes. [00:00] DaemonFC maybe I'll actually NEED a dentist one day [00:00] DaemonFC I got religious about two things after seeing what happens if you don't. [00:01] DaemonFC Proper tooth brushing and lots of car washes. [00:01] DaemonFC You ignore bird shit for a few months, your paint bubbles up, caves in and rusts, in the shape of bird shit. [00:01] schestowitz_TR2 I brush with 2 brushes [00:01] schestowitz_TR2 for over 20 years already [00:01] DaemonFC Happened to that stupid Taurus because I was broke and go "Oh I just won't wash the car much.". [00:01] schestowitz_TR2 it's a lot faster and better [00:01] DaemonFC So I had a nice bird shit-shaped rust hole in the side of it. [00:01] DaemonFC Should have washed the car. [00:02] schestowitz_TR2 cars are like this [00:02] DaemonFC schestowitz_TR2, I wash the Buick about 3 times a week. [00:02] schestowitz_TR2 at first you keep the plastic on [00:02] schestowitz_TR2 then they wqear out [00:02] schestowitz_TR2 you take them off [00:02] DaemonFC It's cheaper to wash it than not to. [00:02] schestowitz_TR2 first you care about how shiny the car is [00:02] DaemonFC It costs me like $1-2 per wash and wax. [00:02] schestowitz_TR2 then you lower to "how many scratches" [00:03] DaemonFC then you lower to "how many scratches" [00:03] schestowitz_TR2 then you quit caring about mud and bird faeces [00:03] DaemonFC I used a polishing compound on the scratches and scuffs. [00:03] DaemonFC It made them a lot less noticeable. [00:03] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:03] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:03] schestowitz_TR2 so you start wonder "why da fuck" you ever cared about leaving that plastic on the seats years ago [00:03] DaemonFC Worth a couple dollars for sure. [00:03] DaemonFC Yeah, you get a new car and rock trucks get you. [00:04] DaemonFC Some shithead in Walmart goes out of his way to park at the end of the lot in a piece of crap and WHAM goes the car door. [00:04] schestowitz_TR2 btw, some old laptops and sccreens herestill have the plastics on [00:04] schestowitz_TR2 rianne likes to keep them on [00:04] schestowitz_TR2 took her 5 years to take the plastics off the speakers :-) [00:04] DaemonFC schestowitz_TR2, Literally the first thing that happened in the Kia. [00:04] schestowitz_TR2 to be fair, that laptop is still in mind condition [00:04] DaemonFC A seagull flew over me and splattered the car with shit. [00:04] DaemonFC I had to drive by the carwash on the way home. [00:05] DaemonFC Then I started getting chips from rock trucks and door dings and out there with a paint pen so it wouldn't rust. [00:05] schestowitz_TR2 better on the car than on you [00:05] DaemonFC And then I lost it in bankruptcy to fucking John. [00:05] DaemonFC And it's like, why did I care? [00:05] DaemonFC Why was I so obsessive? [00:06] DaemonFC I'm simpler now. Give me my laptop, a car that just runs well and looks half decent, and a nice radio. I'm happy. [00:07] DaemonFC You get too ambitious and you get knocked down hard, because I was like "If I leave John I lose my car, I lose my house on the lake where I can use that boat. I go back to eating TV dinners in a shitty apartment where the ceiling collapses. [00:07] DaemonFC And what happened was so much worse. [00:07] DaemonFC Just months later! [00:08] DaemonFC In the end it was all about the finances, and he was gone most of the time working and fucking other people and so he came in and slept and then left again. [00:08] DaemonFC And I was like "Okay, I can deal with this.". [00:09] DaemonFC The result was a bankruptcy that verged on a quarter of a million dollars. And some of that was hospital bills and shit. I'm just glad I made no effort to pay those. [00:09] TR News Links 06/06/2022: New HTTP Core Specs | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/06/new-http-core-specs/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/06/new-http-core-specs/ [00:09] DaemonFC Because the money would have been gone and I'd still be bankrupt. [00:09] TR Bot Links 06/06/2022: New HTTP Core Specs | Techrights [00:09] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165713 [00:09] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [00:10] DaemonFC schestowitz_TR2, Bankruptcy doesn't change life much. [00:11] DaemonFC Months or maybe a year later, everyone wants to give you credit cards just like the ones you had. [00:11] DaemonFC You buy another car in cash. [00:11] DaemonFC Landlords don't care. They only want to know if anyone's had to evict you. [00:11] DaemonFC Life goes on. [00:12] DaemonFC schestowitz_TR2, We've stopped going to the movies and out to eat almost entirely. [00:12] matey wait, you need to distinuish <- borderline occupiers <- from the people who are now there [00:12] DaemonFC The gas prices are probably feeding into a new unemployment crisis. [00:12] matey you really dont get it [00:12] matey afaik, they're all fine with rms being in the board <- haha [00:12] DaemonFC Who goes to a restaurant a bunch and splurges when they have a 20 gallon gas tank that takes $6.39 a gallon to fill? [00:12] DaemonFC Few. [00:12] matey just when the board had its nuts cut off and put on a spike outside the front door [00:12] matey big deal [00:13] matey an "occupation" is not as you put it, a "failure to distinguish" the people outside from the inside [00:13] matey its when the people move from the outside to the inside, and stay there [00:13] matey or maybe we have different definitions of "occupation" [00:13] matey but the usual one isnt a failure to distinguish [00:14] matey maybe the fsf has trouble distinguisting people that stand from anything from the people telling them what to do [00:14] matey because even the people who are "okay" with rms "being on the board" are also ok with a bunch of idiots dismantling the entire organisation and the movement (as much as it can) [00:14] matey i wrote an article about a failure to distinguish friend from foe for you more than a year or two ago [00:14] matey i distinguish just fine [00:15] matey the people destroying the fsf are the foe [00:15] matey the people failing to distinguish those from useful people are idiots [00:15] matey and the people who stand for free software are on the outside [00:15] matey not walsh and mako [00:15] matey but all the same [00:16] matey youre the one who wants to pretend the saboteurs are not saboteurs [00:16] matey and that critics are the problem [00:16] matey thats the side you picked when the coup told you to shut up [00:16] matey and you said "okay, but only 90% of the say" [00:16] matey "the way" [00:16] matey "i have a reputation to keep" [00:16] matey have fun with that, bbl [00:16] *matey has quit (connection closed) [00:19] DaemonFC schestowitz_TR2, Back to cars, everyone's been dinged by some other asshole. [00:19] *Redfoxmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [00:20] DaemonFC So GM started putting these door guard trims on many of their cars. [00:20] DaemonFC That way if someone whacks you it scratches that a bit, but no ding in the metal on your door. [00:21] DaemonFC Nature is hell on cars, but so are other people. [00:31] schestowitz_TR2 an "occupation" is not as you put it, a "failure to distinguish" the people outside from the inside [00:31] schestowitz_TR2 people who try to "reform" free software into "open source" [00:32] TR News Snow Leopard a Day gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D253.jpg [00:34] TR News "I dont believe in alarm clocks. 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[00:44] schestowitz_TR2 tuxmachines :-) [00:44] matey its like the linux foundation, but its not about money [00:44] schestowitz_TR2 mascots as foundations [00:44] schestowitz_TR2 lie-nox [00:44] DaemonFC He said one of the reasons she had to pay more rent was because her electric bill was so high. He specifically said "Always over $200 a month.". [00:44] matey the linux foundation uses a mac and pretends to care about "linux" [00:44] matey the tux foundation uses gnu/linux and pretends to care about freedom [00:45] matey its gonna be big [00:45] DaemonFC So I said, "Call the power company and see what it averages." She said, "I don't think you can do that if it's under someone else's name.". I said, "Ask them what it's averaged over the last 12 months because you're considering signing a lease and were wondering what it costs to heat and cool and stuff.". [00:45] DaemonFC So after telling me they wouldn't tell her, they said over the last 12 months, her bill has averaged $148 a month. [00:45] schestowitz_TR2 lol [00:45] schestowitz_TR2 tuxnox foundation [00:45] schestowitz_TR2 cares about neither [00:46] schestowitz_TR2 why would that raise RENT? [00:46] schestowitz_TR2 makes no sense [00:46] DaemonFC And the only reason why it was that much is because he wouldn't fix the boiler. [00:46] matey it wouldnt raise anything [00:46] schestowitz_TR2 does he worry it might become a burden on the fuse box? [00:46] matey it would have to be paid for out of pocket [00:46] DaemonFC And she had to use her space heaters all winter when he wouldn't send anyone to fix the stupid boiler. [00:46] matey the only real "profit" would be people paying attention to it [00:47] DaemonFC If he would have fixed the stupid boiler, her average bill would have only been like $80-90. [00:47] *schestowitz_TR2 goes too work [00:48] DaemonFC He always exaggerates when it comes to money. [00:48] DaemonFC Boasting about how much his new car cost or how great a deal he got on something, or multiplying what he spends on your utilities by like double. [00:48] DaemonFC He did it to me too. [00:49] DaemonFC So I told him I called the power company and they told me what the bill averaged over the last 12 months and he had this look like "Busted!". [00:50] matey /me was already working [00:50] DaemonFC Nobody who lies expects anyone to call them out on their bullshit. [00:51] DaemonFC Coca-Cola Original Soda Pop, 12 Fl Oz, 24 Pack Cans $9.78 [00:51] DaemonFC LOL [00:52] DaemonFC I remember it being like $4 for that many. And that was at the expensive store, not Walmart. [00:53] DaemonFC Walmart used to sell 24 packs of Sam's Choice for like $2.88, and now you can't even get 12 for $4.50 [00:55] matey im disappointed in walsh and mako yes [00:56] matey but i had good reasons to believe in them [00:56] matey even if it was a mistake [00:56] matey its too bad i had to learn from that mistake the hard way [00:56] matey it would be worse if people showed me such a mistake over and over and over again [00:56] matey and i covered for their sorry arses [00:57] matey i dont have much on either one-- nor do i pretend to, because why bother? [00:57] matey they dont seem to be the worst, but i focus on people i actually have information about [00:57] matey thats reasonable [00:57] matey what i DONT do is pretend theres no problem, like we should just have faith in people that let us down [00:57] matey i dont NEED to do that [00:57] matey there are other people (whom i dont agree with) to do that for me [00:58] matey who make fun of innocent mistakes, but continue to repeat their own (even bigger) mistakes [00:58] matey i mean, theyre free to do that [00:58] matey its just stupid [00:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 29.56 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.66 average k/sec., average swarm size 83.83 ● Jun 07 [01:05] *matey has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:07] *matey (~matey@8e2n2y9vrmux6.irc) has joined #techrights [01:07] matey ervice Unavailable [01:07] matey The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later. [01:07] matey Apache/2.4.6 (CentOS) Server at techrights.org Port 80 [01:07] matey im sure it will load when i refresh [01:08] matey (i think its actually loading now) [01:09] matey for an old wordpress site with homebrewed php (im sure of it) its got remarkable uptime [01:09] matey i think something rebooted even, because irc seemed to kick out at just that moment (though im less sure of that) [01:10] matey Service Unavailable [01:10] matey The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later. [01:10] matey Apache/2.4.6 (CentOS) Server at techrights.org Port 80 [01:10] matey not yet [01:11] matey and its back up [01:11] matey which is great, i was looking for something [01:12] matey wanna see roy do comedy? [01:12] matey he does it better than he does journalism [01:12] DaemonFC Trump's tax law gave Mandy and I $1,000 a year in our pocket. [01:12] DaemonFC Bidenflation took all of that away and more. [01:13] matey one thing roy will never do is sell out (DIRECTLY) to corporate sponsors like microbel [01:13] matey hes not in it for the money, i know that much [01:13] DaemonFC The worst inflation is hitting things you have to buy. Gas to get to work. Rent. Food. [01:13] DaemonFC Junk is as cheap as ever. [01:13] matey but he is (unbeknownst to most) hilarious [01:14] matey heres an example... [01:14] DaemonFC But we'll see how much of it they sel when everyone has to buy the gas, food, and rent. [01:14] matey url first: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-050622.html [01:14] TR Bot timed out after 10519 milliseconds ( status 0 @ http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-050622.html ) [01:14] DaemonFC I think Ariadne keeps doing something with the server. [01:14] DaemonFC Like, the uptime is sketchy? [01:14] matey found it when the site came back up. its not sarcasm-- i think its close to objectively a fact that techrights has good uptime [01:14] matey i couldnt match it [01:15] matey now, at that url, roy is chiding me for *gasp* making *a* mistake [01:15] matey he will deny this of course. "no, you misunderstood" [01:15] matey of course i did. [01:15] Ariadne DaemonFC: not me. i am on holiday for the next few weeks. [01:15] matey my confidence comes from being right IN GENERAL [01:15] matey not from being right ALL THE TIME. [01:16] Ariadne DaemonFC: however, there are some very inefficient PHP scripts which hammer the database and cause the site to go down. i rewrote some of them, but have not had time to address them all. [01:16] matey a good example of this is when i thought mako and walsh would be good leaders for the gsg [01:16] matey fsf [01:16] matey i actually liked oliva too (and that was another mistake) [01:16] matey but with oliva i thought the distance would disqualify him (turns out i was wrong about that) [01:16] Ariadne why not oliva? he is committed to software freedom [01:16] matey still, when stallman went into HIDING he took over [01:17] matey why not oliva? he is committed to software freedom <- he still seems like the closest thing on the entire earth to a stallman clone [01:17] matey which makes him an obvious choice [01:17] Ariadne i don't think he eats things from his feet [01:17] matey of course thats unfair [01:17] Ariadne maybe on a technical level you are right though [01:17] matey lots of people have that compulsive disorder [01:17] matey its pure ableism [01:17] matey but people only care about ableism when it suits their political goals [01:18] matey anyway [01:18] Ariadne i was just saying that he was not a 100% clone of stallman [01:18] matey well if you look at twins, no one is 100% clone of anyone [01:18] Ariadne identical twins might disagree [01:19] matey i know identical twins, they diverge from birth (or perhaps the womb) [01:19] matey dna only does so much [01:19] matey a lot, but theres scope [01:19] matey the funny thing is, everything people needs to know about genetics they can learn from harry potter [01:20] matey i know shes a transphobic cunt who ripped off tolkien [01:20] matey im not a fan of her backwards politics [01:20] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [01:20] matey anyway, back to the point [01:20] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [01:21] matey schestowitz_TR2 tuened out walsh and mako-hill were among the ousters [01:21] matey (this is from the above url) [01:21] matey schestowitz_TR2 of sorts [01:21] matey schestowitz_TR2 YOU used to think they would be leaders for the org [01:21] Ariadne personally i don't really care who runs fsf [01:21] matey (i added the emphasis there) [01:22] matey personally i don't really care who runs fsf <- it wouldnt matter now [01:22] Ariadne it's not like they are getting anything useful done [01:22] matey there is no fsf left [01:22] matey it's not like they are getting anything useful don <- im not sure they have since 2014 [01:22] matey so i cant say i disagree with that [01:22] Ariadne 2014 seems generous [01:22] matey well i tried to pinpoint it precisely [01:22] matey and came up with 2011 [01:22] matey if 2014 is generous, my money is on 3 years before [01:23] Ariadne the GNU project is mostly backed by redhat [01:23] matey sadly [01:23] matey but truly [01:23] matey and people who really dont trust red hat shouldnt trust gnu [01:23] matey because they fucking own it [01:23] matey im not in favour, but im not going to sugarcoat it [01:23] matey they dont "own" it in the way sco pretended to own unix [01:23] matey they own it the way shuttleworth has "root" [01:23] Ariadne they do have a controlling interest [01:24] matey to say the least [01:24] matey i think it would be a feat to wrest control FROM them too [01:24] matey which is another mark of them "owning" it [01:24] Ariadne the disparity can be observed when you look at GCC vs GLIBC [01:24] matey im NO fan of glibc [01:24] Ariadne GLIBC is mostly redhat people [01:24] matey gcc i can make an argument for [01:25] matey glibc is an unflushable turd so they polish it with rhetoric [01:25] Ariadne GCC is redhat plus codesourcery (now Siemens) [01:25] matey im not even sure copyleft will work at this point-- but i will gladly regurgitate the best arguments for it i can find [01:25] matey i was thinking of source... um... [01:25] Ariadne codesourcery do not care about gnu/linux, they care about embedded [01:26] matey anyone saying that stallman doesnt get hardware/embedded already has my attention at least [01:26] matey because i know theyre right about that [01:26] matey no one has to convince me of that, i am already [01:26] matey stallman. does. not. get. hardware. [01:26] matey (or free culture, but since no one else cares about it either... well, i still blame him for that) [01:27] matey free hardware? i know he wont be fair to it [01:27] matey free culture? i know he will misrepresent it [01:27] matey hes good for free software at best [01:28] matey from 198? to 2011 at least [01:28] matey as ive said i would have supported a coup that did the right things [01:28] matey as the show must go on [01:29] DaemonFC I'm really glad for these video appointments with my doctor down in Chicago. [01:29] DaemonFC Not only do I not have to go to Chicago, I don't have to go there with $6.39 gas. [01:30] DaemonFC If Biden keeps going, the gas would be more than my co-pays. [01:30] matey ok, roy wants a ddg scandal? heres one [01:30] matey so im looking for the website red ibm keeps gcc on [01:30] matey i think i have a local document that points to it, but im lazy [01:30] matey i searched ddg for gcc sourcecode [01:30] matey gcc sourcecode [01:30] matey its not on the front page [01:30] matey i know its source-something or something-source [01:31] matey ill do a local search, since ddg is crap [01:31] matey rofl [01:32] matey okay, this is something i did to myself [01:32] matey not the ddg part, the fact that searching locally didnt do it [01:32] matey to wikipedia! [01:32] matey http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GCC [01:32] TR Bot GCC - Wikipedia [01:33] matey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Compiler_Collection [01:33] TR Bot GNU Compiler Collection - Wikipedia [01:33] matey lies? -> gcc.gnu.org/git/gcc.git [01:33] matey i know red hat doesnt develop it there [01:34] matey SOURCEWARE! [01:34] matey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GDB [01:34] TR Bot GNU Debugger - Wikipedia [01:34] matey should i know that? of course [01:34] matey https://sourceware.org/git/binutils-gdb.git [01:34] TR Bot Git - binutils-gdb.git/summary [01:34] matey but since i only discovered it a year ago [01:35] matey and ive only been there a few times [01:35] matey as i was saying [01:35] matey this is roy trying to chide me [01:35] matey schestowitz_TR2 tuened out walsh and mako-hill were among the ousters Jun 05 18:31 [01:35] matey schestowitz_TR2 of sorts Jun 05 18:31 [01:35] matey schestowitz_TR2 you used to think they would be leaders for the org Jun 05 18:31 [01:35] matey schestowitz_TR2 and now we know better Jun 05 18:32 [01:35] matey "you used to think they would be leaders for the org" [01:35] matey why is that comedy? [01:36] matey its comedy because only a year ago, he was trying to take credit for the very same thing [01:37] matey http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-020221.html [01:37] matey schestowitz what did Kat Walsh do to them?!!??! Mar 26 11:49 [01:37] matey schestowitz She's awesome Mar 26 11:49 [01:37] matey schestowitz we suggested her as successor to RMS Mar 26 11:49 [01:37] TR Bot timed out after 10520 milliseconds ( status 0 @ http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-020221.html ) [01:37] matey no... [01:37] matey "we" never suggested her as successor [01:37] matey *i* did [01:37] matey roy never endorsed that even once [01:37] matey he completely made up the fact that he was involved in that [01:37] *darwin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [01:38] matey literally inserted himself into the past like a photobomb [01:38] matey AFTER it was shown to be a mistake to both of us [01:38] matey and a year later hes still chiding me for it [01:38] matey THATS comedy! [01:38] matey of a variety only roy can... [01:38] matey "its the way i tell them!" [01:38] matey well what can i say? WE made a mistake. [01:39] matey good old roy-al "we" [01:39] matey he still a comedy genius [01:44] matey ive got a joke too [01:44] matey if youre in marketing, kill yourself [01:44] matey wait, thats not mine-- thats bill hicks [01:45] matey ive still got one [01:45] matey if youre a compulsive liar... [01:45] matey kill yourself, and then tell people youre not dead :) [01:47] matey i think hicks was right [01:47] matey i dont think we should revise his joke about marketers in the slightest [01:47] matey for compulsive liars though, i will amend my own [01:47] matey there ARE "high-functioning" sociopaths [01:48] matey there ARE "high-functioning" liars and narcissists, im sure [01:48] matey narcissism is not strictly incurable [01:48] matey most people will not do it [01:48] matey sociopaths and narcissists who do the NEARLY impossible and stop being cunts (against their own nature) have my respect [01:49] matey there arent many-- but i will acknowledge and admire that such people exist [01:49] matey the rest of them should probably kill themselves though [01:49] matey i mean, really [01:49] matey and i guess from there forward its all nitpicks and nuance [01:50] matey including "nuance" [01:50] matey as in "theres a nuance" [01:51] matey my main problem with them isnt that they exist [01:51] matey its that they run the world [01:51] matey if we could fix that, it wouldnt be such a big fucking deal [01:52] matey the original weapon against such nonsense was comedy [01:52] matey sadly, comedy is a tool or a weapon like so many others [01:52] matey which can be used either for good or for evil [01:52] matey and indeed gets used for both [01:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 29.03 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.11 average k/sec., average swarm size 346.60 ● Jun 07 [02:14] DaemonFC I found a bunch of Dire Straits CDs. [02:14] DaemonFC Last time I heard any of this it was on my crummy PC speakers with some MP3s from Napster. [02:15] DaemonFC Biggest scandal in all of Canada. There's the word "faggot" in one of the songs. [02:15] DaemonFC Goes on all year, the radios ignore the Canadian "self-regulation" authority. [02:15] DaemonFC Some play it over and over for hours in protest of the ruling. [02:15] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [02:16] MinceR 07 005441 < schestowitz_TR2> on some dipsplay devices [02:16] MinceR probably increases it on LCD monitors :> [02:29] matey probably increases it on LCD monitors :> <- ive wondered about this for years now [02:30] matey it stands to reason at least that it increases it on ALL lcd [02:30] matey but its a polarising issue :) [02:30] MinceR :> [02:30] matey no seriously, i can imagine how it might help on some and hurt on others (lcds i mean) [02:31] MinceR backlight trickery to fake a higher contrast ratio may complicate this somewhat [02:31] matey plus roy probably still has at least one crt but i havent seen it (except in old photos which no longer count for obvious reasons) [02:32] matey you know what would be great, is if theres some quanta-related reason that we cant know the answer to this seemingly simple question definitively [02:32] MinceR i have 2 crt monitors but haven't turned them on in decades [02:32] matey (because i doubt its that) [02:32] matey but haven't turned them on in decades <- well thank god my libido isnt as bad as it used to be [02:32] MinceR :> [02:32] matey i still managed to get things done [02:32] MinceR objectophilia [02:32] Ariadne out of curiosity i must wonder what masturbating in this channel does to advance software freedom [02:33] Ariadne if you notice i rarely talk here [02:33] matey youre doing it now [02:33] matey (i always say that to people who complain that people chat online-- in an online chat, its far from personal) [02:33] matey standard response [02:33] matey i would tell why i bother [02:33] matey but to quote a television classic, "that would be telling" [02:34] matey if we take your argument to its logical conclusion, even youre implicated [02:34] matey because if we take your argument to its logical conclusion-- why does techrights exist [02:34] matey and why are you hosting it [02:34] matey but... im only having fun with the question [02:34] matey and im sure you have your reasons as much as i have mine [02:34] matey thats only fair, right? [02:35] Ariadne i'm hosting it as a personal favor to schestowitz_TR2 and don't necessarily agree on all content here :P [02:35] matey omg [02:35] matey even if you were my least favourite person on earth [02:35] matey which you arent [02:35] matey i wouldnt accuse you (or anyone) of agreeing with everything here [02:36] Ariadne no but i do feel the need to qualify that whenever anyone asks why techrights exists at my colo [02:36] matey thats a very reasonable disclaimer [02:36] matey if i were hosting tr id get it as a tattoo [02:36] matey but i also think thats probably overkill for a sane person [02:37] MinceR i wonder who necessarily agrees with everything said here [02:38] matey i know who but i neednt say [02:38] matey and they arent here anyway [02:40] matey No, "AMOLED Black" Does NOT Save More Battery Than Dark Gray [02:40] matey www.xda-developers.com/amoled-black-vs-gray-dark-mode/ [02:40] TR News Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. 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HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-060622.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-060622.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techrights-060622.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-060622.txt [02:41] TR Bot timed out after 10518 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=XF2ayWcJfxo ) [02:41] TR Bot IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, June 06, 2022 [02:41] matey just for the sake of completeness [02:41] MinceR better than the best [02:41] matey im going to point out that masturbation (any variety of it) is probably half the reason the internet even exists [02:42] TR News Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-060622.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-060622.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-060622.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-060622.txt [02:42] matey and without it, more than half the internet probably wouldnt (exist. and therefore it wouldnt masturbate either.) [02:42] matey (this is of course, impossible.) [02:42] TR Bot IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, June 06, 2022 [02:42] matey which means, ipso facto [02:43] TR News Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. 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[02:43] TR Bot IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, June 06, 2022 [02:43] matey ipso facto is latin for "you know im right" [02:43] MinceR calypso facto [02:44] matey calypso facto <- https://yewtu.be/watch?v=4-9h1pjTP74 [02:44] TR Bot Stan Freberg - "Banana Boat (Day-O)" - Invidious [02:45] matey /me justified the internet without citing avenue--kyyyyyyyyyyyy too late [02:47] MinceR matey: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZDyGyEy2E8 [02:47] TR Bot https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=KZDyGyEy2E8 [02:47] TR Bot timed out after 10001 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=KZDyGyEy2E8 ) [02:48] matey /me clearly identifies two references but not the link between them [02:48] matey OH WAIT ITS A PUN [02:48] matey apocalypso [02:48] matey /me should have known [02:49] matey seriously you got to see how long it took me in realtime [02:49] matey (and im usually not that quick) [02:49] matey there was a guy who used to wear a shirt that said "I.P. on everything" [02:49] matey and somehow it didnt click for YEARS [02:49] matey hiding in plain, very obvious sight [02:50] matey (im usually quicker than THAT at least) [02:50] matey whats funnier is if its NOT a pun and im still way off [02:51] matey as a personal favor <- this is a half-answer but the sort where i know better than to press for more details that wont come [02:51] matey i claim morbid curiosity, not entitlement [02:52] TR News Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-06-06.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-06-06.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now) [02:52] matey also im not sure i really want to know [02:54] matey /me also doesnt think hes really a duke [02:54] matey i think without being british the most he can hope for is nukem o.b.e. [02:55] MinceR :> [02:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.73 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.53 average k/sec., average swarm size 338.45 ● Jun 07 [03:03] matey c/c music factory or as i now like to call them, c+c music factory [03:03] MinceR :> [03:03] MinceR at least it isn't c&c music factory [03:03] matey yeah bash would have fun with that one [03:03] matey (so would ksh) [03:04] matey ksh: c: not found [03:04] matey ksh: c: not found [03:04] matey (it does it twice) [03:04] matey its lying, c is installed (mispronounced llvm) [03:05] MinceR :> [03:05] MinceR wouldn't that be "cc"? [03:05] matey i was actually just checking that, and yes [03:05] matey cc music factory [03:06] IPFS Gemini requests since start of month: 45255 total Total number of pages in capsule: 40987 Active: active (running) since Fri 2022-05-27 10:17:06 BST; 1 weeks 3 days ago [03:06] matey cc: error: no such file or directory: 'music' [03:06] matey cc: error: no such file or directory: 'factory' [03:06] matey cc: error: no input files [03:06] matey "what the fuck are you DOING in there?" [03:06] matey "saving money on cable television?" [03:06] matey no netflix either [03:07] IPFS IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 266 MB TotalOut: 47 MB [03:07] matey id be outside kicking a can around but thats probably "disturbing the peace" now [03:07] matey on the internet they call that "violating the code of conduct" [03:08] IPFS New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled. [03:08] matey either way its an imaginary crime applied more out of convenience than peace [03:09] matey mention the abuses and they say "but dont you think we should do something about [rare legitimate example?]" [03:09] matey yes [03:09] IPFS QmNfDQ75xBxSAamisMxhTjpn9Au6GFQzWE4dr1y8fZzXpu [03:09] IPFS New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above. [03:10] matey by all means, create loads of political overhead and abuse for [rare legitimate example] thats how real progress(tm) usually works [03:11] matey we need rules out of the reign of king george to deal with [rare legitimate example] [03:11] matey /me powders his wig [03:13] matey Well, Id hardly finished the first verse https://www.gutenberg.org/files/11/11-0.txt [03:13] TR Bot timed out after 10520 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://www.gutenberg.org/files/11/11-0.txt ) [03:19] matey problem solving fake left style [03:19] matey problem: stallman is a tyrant (maybe) [03:19] matey fake left solution: MOAR TYRANNY [03:19] matey well, thats fixed at least [03:19] matey /me applauds [03:20] matey its not hypocrisy, its "upgrade" [03:20] matey more ram: upgrade [03:20] matey more cores: upgrade [03:20] matey more appeal to authority: upgrade [03:22] matey the trick to increasing authority and calling it "progress" is saying "but NOW it applies to EVERYONE" [03:22] matey and who is in charge of applying it? two guesses :) [03:23] matey linux foundation: abuses coc [03:23] matey lieplanet: does the same thing but its cool because fsf [03:23] matey oh its the same people who cancelled the founder [03:23] matey but who cares! hes TOTALLY back now [03:24] matey so its cool, we can abuse the coc like lf does [03:24] matey what do you care, heres your leader safe and sound *makes him wave* [03:24] matey everything is COOL now! [03:24] matey on twitter and microsoft github [03:24] *schestowitz_TR2 back for a bit [03:25] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=GICE7DzR7ko [03:26] TR Bot Austin Powers 2 Queen's Guard - Invidious [03:28] TR News SUSE uses same buzzwords as ICBM, inc, "transformation" https://www.suse.com/c/understanding-the-new-drivers-of-transformation/ [03:28] TR Bot the new drivers of transformation | SUSE Communities [03:28] TR News Berlin went through "transformation" in 1945 [03:28] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [03:28] matey Latest Posts [03:28] matey Post #0: [03:28] matey Posted on Thursday January 01, 1970 [03:28] matey Post #1: [03:28] matey Posted on Thursday January 01, 1970 [03:28] matey Post #2: [03:28] matey Posted on Thursday January 01, 1970 [03:28] matey Post #3: [03:28] matey Posted on Thursday January 01, 1970 [03:29] matey it still does that? [03:29] matey (isnt that the epoch?) [03:29] TR News "The usual love for the Mars helicopter and KDE, rare praise for Mozilla, and fingers pointed at DuckDuckGo and Brave. Plus apprehension about Broadcoms VMware acquisition, and Intels new features." https://latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-180/ [03:29] TR Bot Late Night Linux Episode 180 Late Night Linux [03:29] matey damned tz [03:30] matey "the free software movenent is actually going backwards-- on location is a midget in a bikini..." [03:30] TR News Norbert Preining: Modern world https://www.preining.info/blog/2022/06/modern-world/ [03:30] TR Bot Modern world | There and back again [03:31] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [03:35] TR News Turkey's Archman 2022.06.07 is out http://archman.org/ http://techrights.org/2022/06/02/turkey-in-pictures/ [03:35] MinceR Destructive Transformation [03:35] TR Bot Archman GNU/Linux [03:35] TR Bot In Picture: Updated and Finally Presented About 10 Minutes Ago, Windows Market Share in Turkey Down to 10% | Techrights [03:36] matey we can pretend its still okay [03:36] matey Latest Posts [03:36] matey Post #0: Links 06/06/2022: New HTTP Core Specs [03:36] matey at least its 2022 again [03:36] matey (52 years later) [03:38] matey "Y U DEFEND GUY WE MARTRD?" [03:38] matey i guess theyll have to guess the answer to that [03:38] matey :P [03:38] matey i do want to know what brought this on though: [03:39] matey (circa 2011, novemeber i think) I've chosen not to have any preferences among those ethical distros. In fact, I am not in a position to judge them on other criteria [03:39] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@5tcc2vuaj9aks.irc) has joined #techrights [03:39] matey "In fact, I am not in a position to judge them on other criteria" [03:39] matey sure [03:39] matey youre only the chief gnuisance. [03:39] matey and the founder of the free software movement [03:39] matey so clearly, youre in NO POSITION to have an opinion on this [03:40] matey youre also not bulgarian, but you love their folk music [03:40] matey maybe youre not in a position to like that either. [03:40] matey 2011, just to be clear, is the same year mincer started complaining about systemd [03:41] matey (2014 for me, i wasnt aware of it until it crawled into my debian installation) [03:41] matey do i think the timing is a coincidence? PROBABLY, YES [03:41] matey but is it ONE HELL OF A COINCIDENCE? [03:41] matey i think its unfortunate at best [03:42] matey 2011, just to be clear, is the same year mincer started complaining about systemd <- [03:42] matey what i want to know is [03:42] matey mincer, how are YOU in a position to judge systemd? [03:42] matey youre not even a folk music! [03:43] TR News I've recently discovered the importance of personal fitness gemini://sud0nim.smol.pub/personal-fitness-is-not-optional-in-a-fulfilling-life "This was not sustainable, though once I lost the weight I was able to keep it off for around a year, but then covid happened and being stationary for long stretches isn't known for being the best physical exercise." [03:43] matey "mein fuhrer, steiner... steiner installed the latest debian and..." [03:43] matey "he now has systemd as pid 1" [03:44] matey "thats fine, richard stallman will say something about this" [03:44] matey "stallman... he says hes in no position to say anything about it" [03:45] TR News Dark age https://davelane.nz/current-digital-dark-age [03:45] TR Bot The current (digital) Dark Age | Dave Lane [03:45] matey "everyone but sullivan, oliva and knaugh, leave the room now" [03:46] matey *woman sobs* [03:46] matey "dont worry, we can install devuan" [03:46] matey stallman already had one foot out the door 11 years ago [03:47] matey i doubt he knew it was there [03:47] matey but he had already lost the fight that far back [03:47] schestowitz_TR2 not just that [03:47] schestowitz_TR2 even before 2009 [03:47] schestowitz_TR2 it's a perpetual coup [03:47] schestowitz_TR2 like "open source" 'announced' [03:48] matey it's a perpetual coup <- it is today [03:48] schestowitz_TR2 he commented on "open source" in 2002 for example: http://techrights.org/2022/06/04/richard-stallman-brazil/ [03:48] TR Bot Rare Interview With Richard Stallman (Uploaded Friday) | Techrights [03:48] matey i mean "why open source misses the point" has been revised and refined for years [03:48] matey i always thought it was too much of a softball [03:49] matey i came here from open source [03:49] matey by 2011 i had rejected it as a farce [03:49] matey im not by any means saying im better than stallman [03:49] matey he went in the direction of complancency [03:49] matey he was still fighting in 2011 [03:49] matey just less than before [03:49] matey technically he still fighting now [03:49] matey just less than ever before [03:50] matey i wouldnt care-- if i saw people stepping up to make up for the lack [03:50] matey we arent there yet [03:50] matey and its not just people not stepping up [03:50] matey some people try [03:50] matey and they have their work cut out, because of the "perpetual coup" [03:51] matey i dont actually think anyone is trying as hard now (or at least managing as much) as stallman did back then [03:51] MinceR 07 044247 < matey> youre not even a folk music! [03:51] MinceR lol [03:51] MinceR 07 044237 < matey> mincer, how are YOU in a position to judge systemd? [03:51] MinceR i'm a software engineer [03:51] matey cool [03:52] matey also im sorry :) [03:52] MinceR i'm trained in things poettering should have learned [03:52] matey i wouldnt wish that fate on an enemy [03:52] matey but its still cool [03:52] matey youre a rare breed of software engineer [03:52] matey in that youre not completely full of shit [03:52] matey as most seem to be4 [03:53] matey but maybe youre a lapsed engineer :) like a lapsed catholic [03:53] matey the best kind imo [03:53] matey i dont mind engineers or catholics [03:53] matey but the lapsed ones are still the most reasonable [03:53] matey less dogma [03:54] matey more catpics [03:54] matey but best of all, you can criticise the church, i mean the industry [03:55] matey i mean if the industry wasnt ridiculous, id probably still be using windows :) [03:55] matey hardly a feat of engineering (well, social engineering maybe) [03:55] matey i know thats horrible, and i dont like the thought of it either [03:56] TR News Orange Pi 800 to give Raspberry Pi 400 some competition with a Rockchip RK3399 SoC and 4 GB of RAM http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165616#comment-33903 [03:56] TR Bot Orange Pi 800 Keyboard PC - A Raspberry Pi 400 alternative powered by Rockchip RK3399 | Tux Machines [03:56] matey /me wonders if being a software engineer would have convinced stallman to say that systemd was a piece of shit or not [03:57] TR News Revealed: Why China blocked an Antarctic penguin rescue... https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2022-06-07-revealed-why-china-blocked-an-antarctic-penguin-rescue-plan/ Source: dailymaverick [03:57] matey he couldnt have stopped there, and implied that simply being a piece of shit was enough to criticise something under a free license [03:57] TR Bot Revealed: Why China blocked an Antarctic penguin rescue... [03:58] matey as he had already covered that topic before [03:58] matey he would have had to figure out that it wasnt a typical piece of shit where the solution is to either improve it or use something else [03:58] matey but in fact a piece of shit designed to control users [03:58] matey and REDUCE existing freedom [03:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 29.55 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.50 average k/sec., average swarm size 215.51 [03:59] matey he might have noticed a decades worth of debate on the topic [03:59] TR News Whose idea was this PR stunt? https://mspoweruser.com/free-software-foundation-sends-hard-drive-to-microsoft-to-get-windows-7-source-code/ They need "bad Vista" and "7 Sins" back [03:59] matey he might have considered it his place to weigh in [03:59] TR Bot Software Foundation sends hard drive to Microsoft to get Windows 7 source code - MSPoweruser [03:59] matey and technically at least, he did [03:59] matey he never cared about unix philosophy [03:59] matey when gnu was taken further from it, he didnt care about that ● Jun 07 [04:00] matey when it actually cost freedom, (or made it more expensive, in a way that ensured people would have less of it) [04:00] matey he didnt retroactively care about it [04:00] matey and i wouldnt care about that-- if other people at the fsf had stepped up [04:00] matey they didnt [04:00] matey because (as youll see from years of debate) they didnt care either [04:01] matey maybe a couple did, and it would be nice to find them [04:01] matey i can say with confidence oliva wasnt among them [04:01] matey which isnt surprising, as he only differed with stallman on so much (not much) [04:01] matey knauth was not among them [04:02] matey guix, if they were against systemd were still FOR github [04:02] matey trisquel were not THE LEAST BIT interested in solutions that made systemd optional [04:03] matey as i created and proposed one [04:03] matey and trisquel had become the de facto fsf distro (as guix will now that theyve taken over everything) [04:03] matey roy: no, blah blah blah stepped down [04:03] matey me: yeah, and someone equally shit stepped into his place [04:03] matey roy: no hes better [04:04] matey me: nope, not by any significant criteria [04:04] matey its too late for guix [04:05] matey also guix is the fsdg version of something about as uncumbersome to use as arch [04:06] matey so its not exactly a trisquel replacement anyone, even if one is deperately needed [04:06] matey anyway [04:07] matey the fsdg will be dead well before copyleft [04:07] matey probably in stallmans lifetime [04:07] matey if its not already [04:07] matey im enough of a fan of the fsdg to come up with a (sort of) plan to bring EVERY distro into fsdg compliance [04:07] matey and i dont know anyone else who has tried that [04:08] matey but you cant squeeze blood from a turnip [04:08] TR News #Techrights Bulletin for Monday, June 06, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [04:08] TR Bot Bulletin Archives [04:08] TR News #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [04:08] TR Bot Techrights Full IPFS Index [04:10] TR News Twitter already suffered profoundly from this and it might not survive the next 5 years https://mindmatters.ai/2022/06/will-musks-twitter-bid-win-or-lose-damage-twitters-power/ [04:10] TR Bot Will Musks Twitter Bid Win or Lose Damage Twitters Power? | Mind Matters [04:12] matey stallman would have cared about the unix philosophy if he had understood the relationship between unix philosophy and freedom 3 [04:12] matey but instead he simply picked up unix and said "youll do" [04:12] TR News "Stirring the pot, Musk recently slammed current medias marked disinterest in who teen sex trafficker Jeffrey Epsteins prominent clients were" https://mindmatters.ai/2022/06/will-musks-twitter-bid-win-or-lose-damage-twitters-power/ Bill Gates was enabling Epstein; Twitter CENSORED for Gates http://techrights.org/2021/02/04/twitter-berserk/ [04:12] TR Bot Twitter: We Suspend Your Account For Quoting the Media About Bill Gates | Techrights [04:12] matey this is the true history, as hes said many times how any fucks he gives about unix [04:13] matey free software was built on an invisible, implicit freedom [04:14] matey that that invisible freedom away, and freedom 3 falls [04:14] matey take away freedom 3, and the other 3 are also weakened, if they dont fall as well [04:14] matey stallman DID NOT understand this [04:15] TR News Elon Musk Says No One in the Media Cares About Exposing Jeffrey Epsteins Alleged Clients https://www.theepochtimes.com/elon-musk-says-no-one-in-the-media-cares-about-exposing-jeffrey-epsteins-alleged-clients_4512597.html http://techrights.org/2020/09/28/non-denying-and-false-denials/ [04:15] matey even today as it fails, he does not [04:15] TR Bot Elon Musk Says No One in the Media Cares About Exposing Jeffrey Epsteins Alleged Clients [04:15] TR Bot timed out after 10517 milliseconds ( status 0 @ http://techrights.org/2020/09/28/non-denying-and-false-denials/ ) [04:15] matey marie curie did not understand radium [04:15] matey and yet to her we owe much of our knowledge and understanding of it [04:16] TR News "Well, he's dead." [04:16] matey newton did not understand relativity, and yet gave us a pretty useful understanding of the material world [04:16] matey more than just a start [04:16] matey these arent small names [04:18] TR News The Bill [fainted after his very supremely strong relationship with Jeffrey Esptein was discovered by NYTimes and] Melinda Gates Foundation [04:19] TR News "Musk knows perfectly well that it is not so much that no one in current media cares as that most of them have a heavy investment in protecting good guys like Bill Gates around whom rumors swirl in this area and other icons as well." https://mindmatters.ai/2022/06/will-musks-twitter-bid-win-or-lose-damage-twitters-power/ [04:19] TR News Twitter banned Bill Gates critics while Gates was PAYING Twitter http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/bill-gates-pays-twitter/ [04:19] TR Bot Reality is Warped When You Pay for Perception Management (or: Bill Gates Pays Twitter for Propaganda) | Techrights [04:21] matey Theories of lift generation are often based either on Bernoullis principle or Newtons laws of motion. Both Bernoullis principle and Newtons laws of motion are without any doubt flawless, however, misleading interpretations of these laws are made to explain generation of lift. [04:21] matey and Newtons laws of motion are without any doubt flawless, <- where would you find a scientist that would refer to any scientic law as being [04:21] matey "flawless" [04:21] TR News US government: we have this list of high-profile clients of Jeffrey Epstein, but we won't publish it because then you might know who they are and their currently very political life and professional career might be harmed by that. [04:22] matey maybe theyre speaking science a second language [04:22] matey like im typing [04:22] TR News After paying a lot of money to bail out our queen's son we're again paying a lot of money for her extravagant parties (Jubilee). [04:23] matey Usually it is believed that when air rushes over the curved upper wing surface, it has to travel further than the air that passes underneath, so it has to go faster (to cover more distance in the same time). According to a principle of aerodynamics called Bernoullis law, fast-moving air is at lower pressure than slow-moving air, so the pressure above the wing is lower than the pressure below, and this creates the lift [04:23] matey This is called equal transit time theory. Experimentally, it is found that two air molecules passing through upper and lower surface dont necessarily meet at the trailing edge. In fact, the air molecule through the upper section reaches the trailing edge earlier. So, this explanation is wrong. [04:23] matey Though the Bernoullis principle is correctly applied in this theory, the overall assumption that the fluid particle meet at the trailing edge is wrong. Therefore, this theory fails to successfully explain lift generation. [04:24] TR News "A pair of cotton top tamarin twins are one of the worlds most endangered primates with less than 2,000 breeding animals estimated to be left in the wild." https://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2022/06/02/news/baby-boom-at-belfast-zoo-2730497/ [04:24] TR Bot Baby Boom at Belfast Zoo - The Irish News [04:24] matey Both the Newtons laws of motion and Bernoullis principle are the foundations for calculating any forces. The fundamental problem is that neither theory fully explains real- world observations. Bernoullis principle tells that the faster air on top of the wing experiences reduced pressure which is correct but does not explain why [04:25] matey It also does not explain inverted flight. Thats where Newtons second and third laws come into play. Taken together, Newtons laws describe how we can fly reversed and how angle of attack works. [04:26] matey As air flows over the curved upper surface, its natural inclination is to move in a straight line, but the curve of the wing pulls it around and back down. This creates curved streamline. Because the air is changing direction there must exist a centripetal force acting normal to the direction of motion. [04:26] TR News Debian is NOT tough to install at all. There's even a graphical installer. https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/toughest-linux-operating-systems-install/ [04:26] TR Bot Are These the Toughest Linux Operating Systems to Install? [04:26] matey If a streamline is straight, R and dp/dn = 0. Therefore, there is no pressure gradient across straight streamlines. In other words, if a streamline is curved, there must be a pressure gradient across the streamline, with the pressure increasing in the direction away from the centre of curvature. [04:26] matey As a result, there is low pressure at the upper section of airfoil and higher pressure at the lower section. This concept holds true for inverted flight as well as different angle of attacks. [04:27] matey ive read a really great biography of the wright brothers [04:27] matey i have no idea if they knew how flight works. i know they made it work, i know they experimented with scale models and scaled up [04:27] matey which i think is awesome [04:27] schestowitz_TR2 the US version of aviation history? [04:28] matey is there a version that says the wright brothers did not create a working plane? [04:28] matey because im addressing the methodology, not who got there first [04:28] matey if they stole the design id be interested in knowing from whom [04:29] TR News LOL. Some sites take this whole "metaverse" BS SERIOUSLY. https://coresight.com/research/the-metaverse-in-retail-taking-brand-recognition-engagement-and-loyalty-to-a-new-level/ what next? NFT mysticism? [04:29] matey it probably would have flopped commercially if not for wwii [04:29] TR Bot Metaverse in Retail: Taking Brand Recognition, Engagement and Loyalty to a New Level | Coresight Research [04:30] matey who in their right mind wants to step into a big metal (or WOODEN) thing with wings jutting out from it [04:30] TR News Literally military-funded propaganda and recruitment tool https://www.callofduty.com/blog/2022/06/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-II-introduction-new-era-infinity-ward [04:30] TR Bot Preparing for the New Era of Call of Duty, Presented by Infinity Ward [04:31] matey but if the choice is that or being an army grunt, id reconsider [04:31] matey and if i got a parachute at least id think about it for well more than 30 seconds [04:32] matey and if i worked for ibm id probably try to figure out how to make it more likely to shoot brown people [04:32] matey but thats because ibm are a bunch of racist arseholes [04:33] matey point being, i dont know if the wright brothers actually understood how lift works, in any sense other than practical of course [04:33] TR News Department of Energy ready to use Frontier supercomputer to solve 24 science problems - FedScoop https://www.fedscoop.com/exascale-computing-project-frontier-24-problems/ Source: fedscoop [04:33] matey i know they studied the fuck out of whatever they could get their hands on [04:34] TR Bot timed out after 10519 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://www.fedscoop.com/exascale-computing-project-frontier-24-problems/ ) [04:34] matey i DONT know if it covered what they needed to know, because most scientists said it was impossible and youre nuts to waste time on it [04:34] matey their attitude towards flight was not unlike ariadnes attitude towards chatting online :) [04:35] TR News LOL! A "virtual keynote"... but "travel-friendly features". Stay home, people!! But here, in case you travel https://thepointsguy.com/news/apple-ios-16-travel-features/ [04:35] TR Bot 10 travel-friendly features coming to Apples newest iPhone software [04:35] matey maybe they understood lift scientifically (the theory) [04:35] matey or perhaps they only experimented sufficiently to create a working machine [04:35] matey but not to (correctly) explain how it works [04:36] matey presently im trying to find a source that answers this [04:36] TR News Popular Mechanics playing along with Zuckerberg's nonsense, a rebrand of virtual reality (VR) designed to distract from the company's scandals and collapse. Very disappointing that a good publication would participate... https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/gadgets/a39728709/metaverse-social-platforms-connection/ [04:36] TR Bot Creating Connection In The Metaverse | Best Virtual Reality Gear [04:36] matey but only to possibly compare it to stallman creating 4 freedoms that missed the implicit fifth :) [04:37] matey because i really believe a reasonable amount of modularity (already present in early goals of free software-- but not explicitly so) is a PREREQUISITE for freedom 3 [04:37] matey and i dont think stallman ever knew that [04:38] TR News A good start: don't get them 'smart' 'phones' https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/education/article262066807.html [04:38] matey but whether or not the wright brothers understood lift scientifically, they made a working machine anyway [04:38] matey they understood the practical, but i dont know if they knew the theory (correctly) [04:39] matey i wonder if you think someone else invented heavier-than-air-flight [04:39] matey and if so, who [04:39] TR News LEHMAN BROTHERS does not even exist anymore! http://thettablog.blogspot.com/2022/06/cafc-affirms-ttab-s-lehman-brothers.html [04:39] matey either way, paper airplanes count (imo) and the wrights were inspired by those [04:39] matey they already existed [04:39] matey so they didnt invent paper gliders [04:39] TR News Software Patents https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/6/3/2000-for-zentian-prior-art [04:40] *TechrightsBot-tr has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:40] matey and it eludes my why scientists didnt just build a big fucking paper glider and hop on, attached to a truck or something [04:40] TR News "blog posts on why patents matter" https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/6/6/improving-patent-quality-by-changing-the-usptos-rce-and-continuation-practices [04:40] matey everyone wanted to jump off a cliff [04:40] matey go ahead [04:40] matey let the marketing people test them [04:41] matey but a truck with a line should have sufficed [04:41] matey hindsight is 20/20 eh [04:41] TR News Germany has been hijacked by 'patent nazis' https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=8ba4572f-24bc-4722-8f18-befa14780ef5 [04:41] matey its so obvious a hundred years later [04:42] TR News FOSS Patents: Apple and other WiFi implementers pressuring IEEE not to abandon its 2015 patent policy--but serious impact of negative Letters of Assurance can't be denied http://www.fosspatents.com/2022/05/apple-and-other-wifi-implementers.html Source: fosspatents [04:43] matey /me sees what the pimple-faced oracle says about who invented flight [04:43] matey thats both ageist and its not [04:43] matey wikipedia is probably child labour on average. but its volunteer work so whatever [04:43] TR News Loaded and misleading headline from site of patent maximalists https://news.bloomberglaw.com/tech-and-telecom-law/inventor-robots-deserve-patent-rights-federal-circuit-to-hear [04:43] matey so you can make fun of a younger generation by saying wikipedia is written by kids [04:44] matey but when you do so, its probably the most interesting and complete (and on average, accurate) encyclopedia ever written [04:44] matey so its not TOO ageist [04:44] matey "hey kid, all you did was invent the space shuttle" [04:44] matey "yeah, so?" [04:44] matey so SPACE SHUTTLES SUCK! cut your hair and get a real job [04:44] matey /me shrugs [04:45] Ariadne actually the space shuttle is pretty cool [04:45] matey i agree [04:45] matey i was a big fan as a kid [04:45] matey less so now, but my point was based on it being pretty cool [04:45] matey and the person saying they suck was a hypothetical (straw man) idiot [04:45] matey as a kid i would have preferred a shuttle ride [04:46] matey knowing what i know about the shuttle ill take a saturn rocket, thx [04:46] matey but for what it wanted to do, and typically did, the shuttle is a cooler idea [04:47] matey also cool, a BOLEX soviet shuttle https://yewtu.be/watch?v=-q7ZVXOU3kM [04:47] matey for something that actually works: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=V2xVSmzPzW4 [04:48] matey and does something more innovative (first of its kind in production) <- only one made [04:48] matey wont get you to the moon, unless earth was headed in that direction already [04:48] TR News Tax evasion, then EPO, another financial scam full of crime. "To illustrate the importance of Israel as a hub for intellectual property, a report released today by the European Patent Office (EPO)" https://www.finews.asia/finance/36665-cs-ubs-israel-joseph-wolf-ubs-payback-asia-apac [04:49] matey but it does fly under radar [04:49] TR News String of NIH departures continues as Ned Sharpless, head of the National Cancer Institute, steps down https://www.fiercebiotech.com/biotech/string-nih-departures-continue-ned-sharpless-head-national-cancer-institute-steps-down [04:50] matey Karakalpakstan <- wins most made-up sounding locale ive ever heard that actually exists [04:50] matey twitter has probably banned it already [04:50] TR News "How long will it take for my European Patent application to be granted?" Well, the EPO became a rubber-stamping machine, giving lots of fake patent; who is that good for? https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=d07e9325-8423-4d18-9602-c6ddca8af2bc [04:51] schestowitz_TR2 is that a district near memphis? [04:52] schestowitz_TR2 reserved for kikistocrats from pakistan? [04:52] matey schestowitz_TR2: according to our intelligence reports [04:52] schestowitz_TR2 *kak [04:52] matey its somewhere north, south, east or west of memphis [04:52] matey yes i thought of kekistan too [04:52] matey though i didnt say it (until just now) [04:52] schestowitz_TR2 new name for EPO [04:52] matey also i only found it looking for the "caspian sea monster" [04:53] schestowitz_TR2 they hire the worst [04:53] schestowitz_TR2 and then promote the world [04:53] matey which (like so many things) ALSO sounds like a 4chan meme, and in fact isnt [04:53] schestowitz_TR2 then they just grant [04:53] matey (yet) [04:53] matey this much is certain, the epo really sucks [04:53] matey i have no doubt of this [04:53] matey and the people who lead the epo suck AT LEAST as much as the epo itself does [04:53] schestowitz_TR2 they hire military people [04:54] schestowitz_TR2 who then rebranded as "scientists" [04:54] matey ive met some ok military people [04:54] matey its ironic to put them in positions about patents [04:54] matey at least in the states because [04:54] matey the dod isnt held to patent law [04:54] matey i dont think the crown is either [04:54] matey but i dont know how that works out for the military [04:55] schestowitz_TR2 they just impose it [04:55] matey "one can tell intellectual property where to stick it when one wants to" [04:55] schestowitz_TR2 it's to protect those in power [04:55] schestowitz_TR2 not to challenge power [04:56] matey but she cant SAY it sucks even if it does, because that would be a constitutional crisis! [04:56] matey even if they dont have a bloody constitution (i know this isnt so, but its funny in a way) [04:57] matey american laws (most of it): a blatant ripoff of british laws [04:57] matey also american laws: the basis for saying you have no business making blatant ripoffs of things [04:58] matey im sorry, what i meant was thomas jefferson pulled centuries worth of ideas about running a country completely from his arse [04:58] matey he was that clever [04:58] matey AND he played the violin [04:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 29.55 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.50 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [04:59] matey (with only his own scores i would wager) ● Jun 07 [05:00] matey and that is why intellectual property matters! [05:00] matey because if not for intellectual property, the united states would not exist [05:00] matey tada [05:04] Ariadne what. [05:05] matey satire [05:05] matey satire [05:05] matey complete and utter [05:05] matey ( [05:05] matey (although american laws DO HEAVILY borrow from british ones, for fairly obvious reasons) [05:06] matey "for this album bon jovi came in with bagpies and an accordion, but after that he went BACK to his roots" [05:09] matey www.quora.com/How-did-the-Wright-brothers-even-think-of-flight?share=1 The Wrights did not "think of" flight out of the blue. All they did and it's a very big "all" is think up the idea, which had never occurred to anyone before, that since an airplane flies in 3 dimensions, it needs 3-axis controls to be able to fly in anything other that completely calm winds for a very short distance. [05:11] matey its still weird to steer a vehicle on the ground using a rudder instead of moving the wheels though [05:11] matey even though adding steering capability to the wheels would probably just about the dumbest thing you could do [05:12] matey "okay, landing now-- hold the yoke REALLY fucking firmly, we dont want to go off the side of the runway" [05:13] matey if lennart designed airplanes [05:13] *includeals has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [05:13] matey "cars use rack and pinion. planes should use rack and pinion!" [05:14] matey "anyway you can disable steering with systemdctl-steeringlock:1" [05:14] *includeals (~includeal@a94-132-176-57.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #techrights [05:14] matey "or you could just use the rudder" [05:14] matey "yeah if you like going back to the days of the wright brothers" [05:17] matey "i find the term 'yoke' offensive, they used to put secondaries in those" [05:17] matey "oh, shut up" [05:18] matey http://understandingslavery.com/artefact/yoke/ [05:21] matey Top Gun: Maverick: Is the Cast Really Flying the Planes? | POPSUGAR [05:21] matey *facepalm* [05:21] matey YES AND GOOSE REALLY DIED! [05:21] matey tragic accicent [05:21] matey like my typing [05:21] matey meg ryan will have to raise that kid alone [05:23] matey *spoiler [05:25] matey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoke_(aeronautics) [05:25] matey go ahead, ibm [05:25] matey you know what to do [05:28] matey black wallpaper... <- deny wallpaper [05:29] matey it denies pixels [05:29] matey except on lcd it allows them (chamone) [05:30] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=F2AitTPI5U0 [05:57] matey Torvalds holds the Linux trademark[47] and monitors its use,[48] chiefly through the Linux Mark Institute. [05:58] matey The Linux Mark Institute (LMI, fully "LMI Oregon, LLC"[1]) is an organization which administers the "Linux" trademark on behalf of Linus Torvalds for computer software which includes the Linux kernel, computer hardware utilizing Linux-based software, and for services associated with the implementation and documentation of Linux-based products. [05:58] matey LMI originally charged a nominal sublicensing fee for use of the Linux name as part of trademarks,[4] but later changed this in favor of offering a free, perpetual worldwide sublicense.[6] [05:58] matey (who is linux mark?) [05:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 29.55 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.50 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [05:59] matey The foundation was launched in 2000, under the Open Source Development Labs (OSDL) and became the organization it is today when OSDL merged with the Free Standards Group (FSG). The Linux Foundation sponsors the work of Linux creator Linus Torvalds and lead maintainer Greg Kroah-Hartman. ● Jun 07 [06:01] matey ^ no history section [06:01] matey "The Linux Foundation (LF) is a non-profit technology consortium founded in 2000 as a merger between Open Source Development Labs and the Free Standards Group to standardize Linux" [06:02] matey techradar: [06:02] matey TechRadar The next big Linux update could be something pretty special [06:02] matey The next big Linux update could be a big deal, according to foundation founder and head honcho Linus Torvalds. [06:02] matey " foundation founder and head honcho Linus Torvalds" <- fake news [06:02] matey did he found any foundation? [06:03] matey http://techrights.org/2022/06/06/new-http-core-specs/ [06:03] matey did torvalds found "a merger between Open Source Development Labs and the Free Standards Group" [06:03] matey " It is a major force in promoting diversity and inclusion in both Linux and the wider open source software community." [06:04] matey is there a nigerian 319 scam community too? [06:04] matey 419 [06:06] matey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Source_Development_Labs Its employees included Linus Torvalds, the first OSDL fellow, and Bryce Harrington. In 2005, Andrew "Tridge" Tridgell was the second OSDL fellow for a year. [06:07] matey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Standards_Group On January 22, 2007, the Free Standards Group and the OSDL merged to form The Linux Foundation [06:07] matey jan 2007 [06:08] matey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Linux_Foundation The Linux Foundation (LF) is a non-profit technology consortium founded in 2000 as a merger [06:08] matey so thats pretty cool [06:08] matey linux was founded in the 1980s, 1991, 2000 AND 2007! [06:08] matey NO WONDER its so popular [06:09] matey "Mr. Burns, your campaign seems to have the momentum of a runaway freight train. Why are you so popular?" [06:10] matey but from wikipedia you cant really tell if lf was founded in 2000 (as it says on the lf page) or in 2007 (as it says on the fsg page) [06:10] Ariadne 10:03 PM " It is a major force in promoting diversity and inclusion in both Linux and the wider open source software community." [06:10] Ariadne pressing X to doubt on that [06:10] matey me too [06:10] matey im just quoting nonsense there [06:10] matey but its a real quote (of a wiki) [06:11] Ariadne i think some people there do believe in that very strongly and try to do good work [06:11] matey even i believed in open source once [06:11] matey more than 11 years ago [06:11] Ariadne but there are other people who then undermine that work by threatening to sue/ban/whatever people who have valid criticisms [06:11] matey but quite sincerely [06:12] Ariadne see also: kubecon EU vs kat cosgrove [06:12] matey but there are other people who then undermine that work by threatening to sue/ban/whatever people who have valid criticisms <- valid critcism clashes with aggressive marketing initiatives [06:12] matey see also: kubecon EU vs kat cosgrove <- never heard of that, sounds interesting [06:12] Ariadne they literally brought some nutcase from CNN to complain about kat cosgrove saying that she would not attend kubecon if they did not take COVID seriously [06:13] matey they literally brought some nutcase from CNN to complain <- lol [06:13] Ariadne and that kat "violated the code of conduct" by criticising their lax COVID policy [06:13] Ariadne what a joke [06:13] matey and that kat "violated the code of conduct" [06:14] matey ill hand it to you, thats one of the three most ridiculous code of conduct applications ive ever heard [06:14] matey i wouldnt even know how to rank those 3 [06:14] matey the one where it was noted that someone was critical of lf or some corporation supporting lf was pretty hilarious [06:14] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [06:14] matey treating some org as a person that deserves a safe space of its own [06:15] matey because some organisations have ptsd [06:15] Ariadne the LF employee who made these threats is still employed by LF [06:15] matey "who made these threats" <- wait i didnt notice any threat [06:16] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [06:16] Ariadne the LF person threatened to ban kat cosgrove for "CoC violations" due to her criticism [06:17] Ariadne her criticism being "people should tell LF they won't attend if they don't take COVID seriously" [06:17] matey threatened to ban kat cosgrove for "CoC violations" due to her criticism <- yeah thats [06:17] matey i dont even [06:17] matey COC-19 [06:18] Ariadne i mean, COVID is still a serious thing, and we are still in a pandemic [06:18] Ariadne it is not unreasonable to ask LF to take it seriously [06:18] matey 100% agree [06:18] *AdmFubar has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [06:19] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has joined #techrights [06:19] matey not sure how coc makes any org immune to criticism [06:19] matey imo the best way to handle that is [06:19] matey be reasonable, get the ban [06:19] matey then have a lot of other get banned until they run out of participants [06:19] matey its like a game of chicken [06:20] matey either at some point they stop banning people, and show what a farce it is [06:20] matey or they keep banning people until theyre out of useful people [06:20] matey this of course is a "fuck everything" strategy [06:20] matey and there may be a more reasonable less aggressive move that works just as well [06:20] matey but im not against fighting ridiculous with ridiculous [06:21] matey how could i be [06:21] matey but if the game of chicken worked, it becomes a message to all coc-masters [06:22] matey not just to one org [06:22] matey if el reg wasnt softly nibbling the hand that feeds i.t., it would be front page stuff [06:23] matey "holding hands and staring longingly into the eyes of the person with the hand that feeds i,t," [06:28] matey fsg was founded in 2000, and in 2007 it merged with osdl to create the linux foundation, which was retroactively founded in 2000 (by way of 2007) [06:28] matey osdl was also founded in 2000 (i guess) so [06:29] matey hahaha [06:29] matey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Linux#Criticism_by_Microsoft [06:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [06:30] matey In 2004, Microsoft initiated its Get the Facts marketing campaign, which specifically criticized Linux server usage.[34] In particular, it claimed that the vulnerabilities of Windows [06:30] matey well thats a good start [06:31] matey i want to read an article from tide that includes "criticism" from "the other leading detergent" [06:32] matey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reese's_Peanut_Butter_Cups#Criticism [06:32] matey "There is peanut butter in the chocolate, and there is chocolate in the peanut butter" [06:34] matey In 2004, Microsoft initiated its Get the Facts marketing campaign <- WHICH SOMEHOW contributes TO wp:npov, and somehow marketing qualifies as a "trustworthy source" [06:34] matey thats a new low for wp imnnpovpov (in my non-npov point of view) [06:36] matey As mentioned above, while some criticism has led to new features and better user-friendliness, the Linux community as a whole has a reputation for being resistant to criticism. [06:36] matey so its resistant to marketing campaigns against it which are initiated by competitors [06:36] matey maybe they should WORK TOGETHER [06:36] matey oh wait, they do [06:37] matey im ready to consider the possibility that the internet is the southern united states of the world [06:37] matey maybe even texas [06:38] matey and at this rate, florida [06:40] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [06:40] matey Wikipedia co-founder Jimmy Wales has stated that the germ of the concept for Wikipedia, for him, came back when he was a graduate student at Indiana University where he was impressed with the successes of the open-source movement and found Richard Stallman's Emacs Manifesto promoting free software and a sharing economy to be quite interesting. [06:40] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [06:42] matey On Tuesday 14 December 2010, developer Tim Starling found backups on SourceForge containing every change made to Wikipedia from its creation in January 2001 to 17 August 2001. [06:42] matey wow [06:42] matey It showed the first edit as being to HomePage on 15 January 2001, reading "This is the new WikiPedia!". 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Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [09:33] *tessier has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [09:38] *tessier (~treed@98.171.210.130) has joined #techrights [09:45] TR News "According to Washington, when the platform is up and running you can register your spouse by providing their ID" https://www.techzim.co.zw/2022/06/zimbabwe-married-men-database-haaa-guys-have-we-failed-that-badly/ | Source: Zimbabwe [09:45] TR Bot Zimbabwe Married Men Database: Haaa guys, have we failed that badly? - Techzim [09:59] TR News 13 Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to the Top Utility Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165718 [09:59] TR Bot 13 Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to the Top Utility | Tux Machines ● Jun 07 [10:00] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165719 [10:00] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [10:05] TR News "I noticed a little bit of visitors/readers coming to my other blog via "theforest.link", so I checked it out, and it's a site that prompts you to "go for a walk", and then that button takes you to a sort of random Smol Web site." gemini://tmo.smol.pub/1654583226 [10:13] *oarion7 has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [10:17] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@964c847ccybdw.irc) has joined #techrights [10:20] XRevan86 https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/06/07/a-twisted-form-of-democracy "In Sunday's referendum, Kazakhstanis voted to amend the country's Constitution. The authorities call it a step towards democracy,but many have doubts" [10:20] TR Bot NO TITLE [10:20] XRevan86 https://theins.press/en/news/251943 [10:20] TR Bot Unlike Moskva cruiser, Moskva sailors were part of special military operation, Russian Defense Ministry admits [10:21] XRevan86 https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/06/07/vk-top-manager-vladimir-gabrielyan-dies-in-tragic-accident-in-russian-arctic-news "VK top manager Vladimir Gabrielyan dies in tragic accident in Russian Arctic" [10:21] TR Bot . [10:27] TR News "The San Francisco Chronicle charges for subscriptions." https://kevin.burke.dev/kevin/san-francisco-chronicle-pricing/ | Source: Kevin Burke [10:27] TR Bot How much does a San Francisco Chronicle subscription cost? | Kevin Burke [10:27] TR News "On Oct. 1, 2021 the same day Michael Gableman issued subpoenas for election materials in Wisconsin" https://www.americanoversight.org/cyber-ninjas-emails-show-further-links-between-arizona-audit-and-wisconsin-election-investigation | Source: American Oversight [10:27] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.americanoversight.org/cyber-ninjas-emails-show-further-links-between-arizona-audit-and-wisconsin-election-investigation ) [10:44] TR News Tiananmen https://blog.jdpfu.com/2022/06/04/remember-tiananmen-square-protests-and-massacre-june-4th-1989 | Source: JDPFu [10:44] TR Bot reports incompatible or unsupported protocol version. ( status 0 @ https://blog.jdpfu.com/2022/06/04/remember-tiananmen-square-protests-and-massacre-june-4th-1989 ) [10:53] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [10:53] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [10:58] TR News "Facebook's previous chief security officer, Alex Stamos, left in 2018." https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/digital-security/meta-names-guy-rosen-chief-information-security-officer/92050196 | Source: India Times [10:58] TR Bot Guy Rosen: Meta names Guy Rosen chief information security officer, CIO News, ET CIO [10:58] TR News "Google has been ordered to pay former NSW deputy premier and Monaro MP John Barilaro $715,000 in defamation damages over two YouTube videos hosted by YouTube." https://itwire.com/it-industry-news/listed-tech/google-ordered-to-pay-john-barilaro-$715,000-over-friendlyjordies-videos.html | Source: IT Wire [10:58] TR Bot - Google ordered to pay John Barilaro $715,000 over FriendlyJordies videos [10:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 29.55 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.50 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jun 07 [11:03] TR News Regulatory Capture https://doctorow.medium.com/regulatory-capture-59b2013e2526 | Source: Cory Doctorow [11:03] TR Bot Regulatory Capture. Beyond Revolving Doors and Against | by Cory Doctorow | Jun, 2022 | Medium [11:07] TR News "Unlike other social platforms, like Instagram or TikTok, it is primarily devoted to news-sharing" https://www.teenvogue.com/story/young-journalists-of-color-twitter | Source: Teen Vogue [11:07] TR Bot Young Journalists of Color Say Twitter Is a Tool for Networking and Industry Info | Teen Vogue [11:07] TR News "information, whether true or false, that I would rather people not possess or share." https://reason.com/2022/06/04/youre-wrong-about-disinformation/ | Source: Reason [11:07] TR Bot You're Wrong About Disinformation [11:07] TR News "Online debates are waste of time. They are no good for anything but for trolls to spend time and satisfy their need to be seen." https://alirezahayati.com/2022/06/06/online-debates/ | Source: Ali Reza Hayati [11:08] TR Bot Online debates - Ali Reza Hayati [11:13] TR News "If the law eventually goes into effect, it would force social media companies to change how they moderate posts" https://www.cnet.com/news/social-media-censorship-law-still-a-threat/ | Source: CNET [11:13] TR Bot Media Censorship Law Is Still a Threat, Despite High Court's Block - CNET [11:19] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@aabr3ie36u3vs.irc) has joined #techrights [11:20] *psydruid notes there is a group of (game) developers who applaud and encourage closed source software on GNU/Linux and dismiss free software engines for all kinds of vague reasons [11:21] *Red (~Red@freenode-vq3.aj5.jaj210.IP) has joined #techrights [11:21] *Red is now known as Redfoxmoon [11:29] DaemonFC "If the law eventually goes into effect, it would force social media companies to change how they moderate posts" https://www.cnet.com/news/social-media-censorship-law-still-a-threat/ | Source: CNET [11:30] DaemonFC Or they could push through an update to their terms of service that forces users to waive their right to sue them over their content moderation policies before they can continue using the site. [11:31] DaemonFC They lost their BIPA case because instead of explaining to Illinois users how their biometrics were being collected and used, they just did it and offered no explanation that it was happening or opt-out. [11:33] DaemonFC Listening to the radio, they're making fun of Smuckers for the recall of JIF peanut butter for salmonella. [11:33] DaemonFC I don't eat JIF because it's really expensive and it's just not good. [11:34] DaemonFC There's plenty of others that taste better. Including Walmart's, which is the cheapest, and tastes best. [11:34] DaemonFC But Skippy isn't bad. [11:34] DaemonFC schestowitz, Now they're talking about restaurants. Americans polled are now more likely to say they don't tip restaurant workers. [11:35] DaemonFC About a third don't tip anything. [11:35] DaemonFC And the restaurants are adding "COVID surcharges". [11:35] DaemonFC Sure, why not? [11:35] DaemonFC Hit the customer with a 3% fee you don't disclose until they get the bill. [11:36] DaemonFC That'll make them want to come back with gas at $6 a gallon. [11:38] DaemonFC https://www.wxxinews.org/capitol-bureau/2022-06-06/three-weeks-after-buffalo-mass-shooting-hochul-signs-gun-bills-into-law [11:38] TR Bot Three weeks after Buffalo mass shooting, Hochul signs gun bills into law [11:38] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [11:38] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [11:38] DaemonFC California had a minimum age of 21 to buy an AR-15. It was struck down. [11:39] DaemonFC "Under the measures, law enforcement will now be required to ask a judge for an order to seize the guns of anyone they think might be a threat to themselves or others." [11:39] DaemonFC Indiana had this before the red flag law technically existed. [11:40] DaemonFC Police in California pulled a man from Indiana over with a trunk full of guns several months after a judge in Indiana ordered the Sheriff to confiscate them due to pointing one at his neighbor, which he was also facing criminal charges for. [11:40] DaemonFC The police never did it. [11:40] TR News "You may think there is one less voice in Hong Kong, but if I stay" https://hongkongfp.com/2022/06/06/third-political-cartoonist-leaves-hong-kong-in-less-than-7-weeks-citing-shrinking-artistic-freedoms/ | Source: Hong Kong Free Press [11:40] TR Bot Third political cartoonist leaves Hong Kong in less than 7 weeks, citing shrinking artistic freedom - Hong Kong Free Press HKFP [11:40] TR News "Before the fateful date arrives, the CCP goes to extra lengths to cover up any mention of the events in 1989." https://www.deccanherald.com/opinion/why-does-china-censor-the-tiananmen-square-anniversary-1115251.html | Source: Deccan Herald [11:40] TR Bot Why does China censor the Tiananmen Square anniversary? | Deccan Herald [11:40] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [11:40] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights ● Jun 07 [12:04] TR News "Another anniversary of the Tiananmen crackdown has come and gone" https://hongkongfp.com/2022/06/06/why-banning-hong-kongs-tiananmen-crackdown-commemorations-highlights-the-authorities-insecurities/ | Source: Hong Kong Free Press [12:04] TR Bot Why banning Hong Kong's Tiananmen crackdown commemorations highlights the authorities' insecurities - Hong Kong Free Press HKFP [12:05] TR News "Police largely thwarted attempts by Hongkongers to mark the 33rd anniversary of the Tiananmen crackdown on Saturday" https://hongkongfp.com/2022/06/05/tiananmen-crackdown-anniversary-hong-kong-police-make-6-arrests-as-beijing-slams-consulates-for-political-tricks/ | Source: Hong Kong Free Press [12:05] TR Bot Tiananmen crackdown anniversary: Hong Kong police make 6 arrests as Beijing slams consulates for 'political tricks' - Hong Kong Free Press HKFP [12:05] TR News "But just as Lis career was gaining momentum, partly because his major rival Viya disappeared from the industry for tax evasion last year" https://qz.com/2173411/chinese-shoppers-are-learning-about-tiananmen-square-from-a-top-influencer/ | Source: Quartz [12:05] TR Bot Chinese shoppers are learning about Tiananmen Square from a top influencer Quartz [12:17] TR News "He accused Moscow of "false equivalence" in comparing independent US journalists to the sanctioned Russian media" https://today.rtl.lu/news/world/a/1924203.html | Source: RTL [12:17] TR Bot RTL Today - Moscow: Washington accuses Russia of trying to 'intimidate' US media in Russia [12:17] TR News "The Dicle Frat Journalists' Association (DFG) released a report on rights violations against journalists in May." https://bianet.org/english/freedom-of-expression/262903-eleven-journalists-detained-in-turkey-in-may | Source: BIA Net [12:17] TR Bot Eleven journalists detained in Turkey in May - english [12:17] TR News "Spanish National High Court Judge Santiago Pedraz summoned Pompeo along with former US counterintelligence official William Evanina as witnesses in the case." https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/mike-pompeo-summoned-spanish-court-explain-assange-assassination-plot | Source: Morning Star UK [12:17] TR Bot Mike Pompeo summoned by Spanish court to explain Assange assassination plot | Morning Star [12:17] TR News "There was drama at the Zimbabwe Broadcasting Corporation (ZBC) as CEO Adelaide Chikunguru was said to have stormed out of a meeting with employees according to a report by New Zimbabwe." https://www.techzim.co.zw/2022/06/zbc-ceo-rules-with-an-iron-fist-as-employees-reject-new-job-evaluation-system/ | Source: Zimbabwe [12:17] TR Bot ZBC CEO "rules with an iron fist" as employees reject new job evaluation system - Techzim [12:22] TR News "Several decisions made during the 1980s, in the infancy of IPv4" https://blog.apnic.net/2022/05/31/cutting-down-on-ip-address-waste/ | Source: APNIC [12:22] TR Bot Cutting down on IP address waste | APNIC Blog [12:22] TR News "That is according to a new GAO report that identified more than 100 federal programs overseen by 15 agencies" https://www.nexttv.com/news/gao-us-lacks-synchronized-broadband-plan | Source: Next TV [12:22] TR Bot GAO: U.S. Lacks Synchronized Broadband Plan | Multichannel News [12:23] TR News "Intellectual [sic] Property [sic] (IP) law specialist Associate Professor Alexandra George and AI expert" https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/06/220601200018.htm | Source: Science Daily [12:23] TR Bot AI is the inventor who gets the patent? -- ScienceDaily [12:24] TR News "But even Jack Dongarra at Top500 admits that not every supercomputer is listed" https://www.newscientist.com/article/2322963-are-the-worlds-most-powerful-supercomputers-operating-in-secret/ | Source: New Scientist [12:24] TR Bot Exascale supercomputers: Are the world's most powerful machines operating in secret? | New Scientist [12:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [12:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 29.55 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.50 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jun 07 [13:00] XRevan86 https://theins.press/en/news/251951 [13:00] TR Bot Nearly 600 conscripts were involved in Ukrainian war, Russian military prosecutor says [13:00] XRevan86 https://theins.press/en/news/251952 [13:00] TR Bot TASS: Taliban representative to attend St. Petersburg International Economic Forum [13:01] XRevan86 https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/06/07/russian-interior-ministry-sets-up-quick-response-directorate-for-enforcing-order-in-case-of-martial-law-news "Russian Interior Ministry sets up quick response directorate for enforcing order in case of martial law" [13:01] TR Bot . [13:01] XRevan86 https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/06/07/defence-minister-shoigu-russian-army-takes-control-over-residential-areas-of-sievierodonetsk-and-opens-mainland-route-to-crimea-news "Defence Minister Shoigu: Russian army takes control over residential areas of Sieverodonetsk and opens mainland route to Crimea" [13:01] TR Bot . [13:23] TR News "Mariah Carey and Sony Music were sued by a guy named Andy Stone" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/06/not-how-any-of-this-works-mariah-carey-sued-over-title-of-song/ | Source: Techdirt [13:23] TR Bot timed out after 10519 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/06/not-how-any-of-this-works-mariah-carey-sued-over-title-of-song/ ) [13:23] TR News "There are so, so, so many different discussions going on concerning internet platform regulations" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/06/new-bipartisan-federal-privacy-bill-tries-to-build-consensus-support-and-basically-succeeds-in-annoying-everyone/ | Source: Techdirt [13:23] TR Bot Bipartisan Federal Privacy Bill Tries To Build Consensus Support, And Basically Succeeds In Annoying Everyone | Techdirt [13:24] TR News "54 years ago today, June 6, Robert F. Kennedy was assassinated and America turned into a darker, meaner place in the five decades" https://scheerpost.com/2022/06/06/robert-f-kennedy-a-golden-age-cut-short/ | Source: Scheerpost [13:24] TR Bot F. Kennedy: A Golden Age Cut Short scheerpost.com [13:25] TR News Craftomation https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/craftomation-101-merges-survival-crafting-and-automation-programming/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [13:25] TR Bot 101 merges survival, crafting and automation programming | GamingOnLinux [13:25] TR News "Another remake of a classic has landed, with Atari's Gravitar from the 80s now being available on Steam with Gravitar: Recharged." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/gravitar-recharged-released-from-atari-revamping-another-classic/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [13:25] TR Bot Recharged released from Atari revamping another classic | GamingOnLinux [13:25] TR News #HowTo install an application graphically in Ubuntu/Debian Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165720 [13:25] TR Bot How to install an application graphically in Ubuntu/Debian | Tux Machines [13:26] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [13:26] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [13:26] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:28] TR News ScummVM 2.6 https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/scummvm-26-is-incoming-devs-asking-for-testing-help-of-more-retro-games/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [13:28] TR Bot 2.6 is incoming, devs asking for testing help of more retro games | GamingOnLinux [13:28] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@ket9pi5gbeqcg.irc) has joined #techrights [13:28] TR News Action Quake 2 (AQtion) https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/action-quake-2-aqtion-considered-the-precursor-to-counter-strike-now-on-steam/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [13:28] TR Bot Quake 2 (AQtion), considered the 'precursor' to Counter-Strike now on Steam | GamingOnLinux [13:34] TR News Financial security gives people the time and space they need to properly organise against social and class injustice; thus, the ruling class wants to obliterate the middle class. The ruling class DOES have financial security, but this class does not fight itself; yet worse, those people collude to cover up for each other (shared goals) [13:39] TR News Endlanders : First Encounter https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/endlanders-is-a-glitchy-rpg-with-real-time-deck-building-grid-based-combat/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [13:39] TR Bot is a glitchy RPG with real-time deck-building grid-based combat | GamingOnLinux [13:39] TR News Easy Anti-Cheat = rootkit https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/free-to-play-shooter-rogue-company-verified-playable-on-steam-deck/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [13:39] TR Bot to play shooter Rogue Company verified 'Playable' on Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux [13:40] TR News Bloatware: "AngularJS is a JavaScript-based open-source front-end web application framework that assists with running single-page applications." https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/how-to-install-angularjs-on-almalinux/ | Source: RoseHosting [13:40] TR Bot timed out after 10520 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/how-to-install-angularjs-on-almalinux/ ) [13:42] *psydruid has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:42] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:42] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@avascqchmtewq.irc) has joined #techrights [13:42] TR News "Since Diablo Immortal is the hot new thing, I decided to attempt to give it a go on Steam Deck." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/diablo-immortal-works-on-steam-deck-plus-a-fix-for-battlenet-being-slow/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [13:42] TR Bot Immortal works on Steam Deck, plus a fix for Battle.net being slow | GamingOnLinux [13:42] TR News "For readers who prefer to shop over on GOG, their Summer Sale has just started along with some new releases" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/gog-summer-sale-now-live-new-releases-from-sega/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [13:42] TR Bot Summer Sale now live with new releases from SEGA | GamingOnLinux [13:45] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:46] TR News Debt, political... https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/06/06/russias-political-debt-default/ | Source: Counter Punch [13:46] TR Bot Political Debt Default - CounterPunch.org [13:47] TR News Assange https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/06/06/the-australian-labor-party-and-julian-assange/ | Source: Counter Punch [13:47] TR Bot Australian Labor Party and Julian Assange - CounterPunch.org [13:47] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:47] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [13:49] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@tw7246d667bvy.irc) has joined #techrights [13:49] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [13:52] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@bqci8siy425a8.irc) has joined #techrights [13:53] TR News Passenger Data Act, https://digit.site36.net/2022/06/06/eu-pnr-directive-germany-stored-and-processed-63-million-passengers/ | Source: Site36 [13:53] TR Bot EU PNR Directive: Germany stored and processed 63 million passengers Security Architectures in the EU [13:54] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Quit: Leaving) [13:55] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@bqci8siy425a8.irc) has joined #techrights [13:55] TR News Starbucks https://truthout.org/articles/workers-fight-back-as-starbucks-moves-to-close-unionized-shop/ | Source: TruthOut [13:55] TR Bot Workers Fight Back as Starbucks Moves to Close Unionized Shop [13:58] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:59] *GNUmoon2 has quit (connection closed) [13:59] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) ● Jun 07 [14:00] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@zpv6niytxp9fu.irc) has joined #techrights [14:00] DaemonFC Starbucks also all of a sudden gives raises, but only to stores without a union. [14:00] DaemonFC Divide and conquer. [14:00] DaemonFC Show the rest that if they unionize, no raises and their store may even close. [14:01] schestowitz_TR2 yes, EPO did the same [14:01] schestowitz_TR2 they create a yellow union or "exemplary" workforce [14:01] schestowitz_TR2 not sure about barrista scabs [14:04] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@aznruqq9uvrec.irc) has joined #techrights [14:07] TR News [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D608.jpg [14:08] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@5tcc2vuaj9aks.irc) has joined #techrights [14:08] TR News War for corporations https://truthout.org/video/corporate-media-is-leaving-pro-negotiation-voices-out-of-ukraine-russia-reports/ | Source: TruthOut [14:08] TR Bot Corporate Media Are Leaving Pro-Negotiation Voices Out of Ukraine-Russia Reports [14:09] TR News "Vanden Heuvel says U.S. corporate media is responsible for what she calls a one-sided debate on Ukraine, which is greenlighting unprecedented spending on weapons over the importance of negotiations." https://www.democracynow.org/2022/6/6/katrina_vanden_heuvel_kyiv_severodonetsk_ukraine [14:09] TR Bot Katrina vanden Heuvel on How U.S. Medias One-Sided Debate on Ukraine Fans the Flames of War | Democracy Now! 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[14:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 29.55 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.50 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jun 07 [15:06] *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #techrights [15:07] *psymin (~psymin@user/psymin) has joined #techrights [15:18] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [15:23] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@5tcc2vuaj9aks.irc) has joined #techrights [15:26] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/22052340 [15:26] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/sr1rbxpzku091.png created on 2022-05-23 15:01:08.587957 [15:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [15:39] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [15:54] XRevan86 https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/06/07/i-asked-them-to-remove-mom-s-chains-they-refused "In their own words, ethnic Kazakhs whose loved ones disappeared into Xinjiangs internment camps describe their fight for answers" [15:55] TR Bot NO TITLE [15:57] TR News SUSE releases Service Pack 4 for Linux Enterprise 15 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165727 [15:57] TR Bot SUSE releases Service Pack 4 for Linux Enterprise 15 | Tux Machines [15:57] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165728 [15:57] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [15:59] *CrystalMath (~coderain@cfa9ifduuxsan.irc) has joined #techrights ● Jun 07 [16:10] TR News SpellBinding: AIMPRTU Wordo: PAWNS gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-06-07.gmi [16:11] TR News Starbucks https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/06/06/blatant-act-war-workers-fight-back-starbucks-moves-close-unionized-shop | Source: Common Dreams [16:12] TR Bot 'Blatant Act of War': Workers Fight Back as Starbucks Moves to Close Unionized Shop [16:12] TR News Colonised workforces need to get organised and unionised [16:13] TR News LEGO Bricks For Data Storage https://hackaday.com/2022/06/06/how-to-use-lego-bricks-for-data-storage/ | Source: Hackaday [16:13] TR Bot To Use LEGO Bricks For Data Storage | Hackaday [16:15] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@5tcc2vuaj9aks.irc) has joined #techrights [16:24] matey "In their own words, ethnic Kazakhs whose loved ones disappeared into Xinjiangs internment camps" [16:24] matey :( [16:26] TR News Monopolies https://www.thenation.com/article/environment/baby-formula-climate-crisis/ | Source: The Nation [16:26] TR Bot The Baby Formula Shortage Is a Preview of a Coming Food Crisis | The Nation [16:26] TR News Internet as mob https://www.thenation.com/article/society/amber-heard-johnny-depp-defamation/ | Source: The Nation [16:26] TR Bot Why the Internet Sided With Johnny Depp | The Nation [16:27] matey even if our governments actually gave a shit about any of this [16:27] matey thats only half the battle [16:27] matey its just an opportunity for them [16:28] matey the only way for this to truly stop is for the people to take over [16:28] schestowitz_TR2 US or china? [16:28] schestowitz_TR2 people taking ovcer is not always good [16:28] schestowitz_TR2 you end up with totally violent or dumb people running things [16:29] schestowitz_TR2 happened before [16:29] matey i mean, until then we will have to wait to be "lucky" and for a government to be distratcted, cat-like, and move from one prey to another, finally leaving the former alone [16:29] matey US or china? <- among those, yes [16:29] schestowitz_TR2 there is always a bunch of false dichotomies [16:29] matey people taking ovcer is not always good <- no, it depends on what is meant by "people taking over" [16:29] schestowitz_TR2 yeah [16:29] schestowitz_TR2 people always run things [16:29] matey there is always a bunch of false dichotomies <- this is a false dichotomy [16:29] schestowitz_TR2 depends which "the people" [16:30] schestowitz_TR2 "populism" became a radical word [16:30] matey youre literally making it into "people taking over" or "not taking over" [16:30] matey its about what it means, not yes or no [16:30] schestowitz_TR2 oligarchs' media reserved this word for bigots [16:30] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [16:30] matey im against people taking over under false pretenses [16:31] matey because when they do, that never works out [16:31] TR News "big telecom" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/06/att-gets-assemblymember-sharon-quirk-silva-to-push-a-shitty-bill-undermining-state-efforts-to-deliver-affordable-fiber/ | Source: Techdirt [16:31] TR Bot Gets Assemblymember Sharon Quirk-Silva To Push A Shitty Bill Undermining State Efforts To Deliver Affordable Fiber | Techdirt [16:31] matey people who lie to take over lie after theyve taken over [16:31] matey this is simple and bulletproof logic [16:31] matey with countless historical examples [16:31] schestowitz-TR "But this time it happened in Mexico, under a government that has promised to be governed by human rights, compassion and sovereignty." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/06/06/at-midpoint-in-amlos-administration-mexico-urgently-needs-a-dignified-and-sovereign-migration-policy/ | Source: Counter Punch [16:31] TR Bot Midpoint in AMLO's Administration, Mexico Urgently Needs a Dignified and Sovereign Migration Policy - CounterPunch.org [16:32] matey people taking ovcer is not always good <- you end up with totally violent or dumb people running things <- not necessarily, no [16:32] TR News How to make it sound like 96% or more are employed (lies from oligarchs): "while the unemployment remained unchanged at 3.6" https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/06/06/strong-job-growth-in-may-wage-pressure-eases/ | Source: Counter Punch [16:32] TR Bot Job Growth in May, Wage Pressure Eases - CounterPunch.org [16:33] matey its a childish (and fallacious) approach to simply look at results and what happened before that, its literally post-hoc fallacy [16:33] TR News "COVID pandemic was beginning to radically transform day-to-day life for nearly everyone on the planet" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/06/us-postal-service-sued-for-seizing-defund-police-facemasks/ | Source: Techdirt [16:33] matey if you cant explain the route from a to b, the connection is not established [16:33] TR Bot Postal Service Sued For Seizing Defund Police Facemasks | Techdirt [16:34] matey once you explain the causal relationship, you learn its not a (people taking over) but a->b (how the relationship works, and how the initiative failed) [16:34] matey thats the difference between a causal relationship and a fallacy / false assumption [16:34] matey the nice thing about a fallacy of course, is a 2-year-old can understand it [16:34] matey but since its not a useful understanding, thats sort of moot. [16:34] TR News Using A LIDAR Sensor To Monitor Your Mailbox https://hackaday.com/2022/06/06/using-a-lidar-sensor-to-monitor-your-mailbox/ | Source: Hackaday [16:34] TR Bot A LIDAR Sensor To Monitor Your Mailbox | Hackaday [16:35] TR News "From scratch" https://hackaday.com/2022/06/06/a-solar-frame-from-scratch/ | Source: Hackaday [16:35] TR Bot Solar Frame From Scratch | Hackaday [16:35] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@5tcc2vuaj9aks.irc) has joined #techrights [16:35] TR News "hate speech or actions related to the insulting of religions" https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/06/speech-related-offenses-should-be-excluded-proposed-un-cybercrime-treaty | Source: EFF [16:35] TR Bot Speech-Related Offenses Should be Excluded from the Proposed UN Cybercrime Treaty | Electronic Frontier Foundation [16:43] TR News Pompeo https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/06/06/spains-high-court-demands-pompeo-testify-alleged-plot-kidnap-or-kill-assange | Source: Common Dreams [16:43] TR Bot Spain's High Court Demands Pompeo Testify on Alleged Plot to Kidnap or Kill Assange [16:44] *KiKi_ has quit (Quit: Leaving) [16:44] TR News Oligarchy https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/06/06/it-doesnt-matter-oligarchy-how-many-mass-shootings-there-are | Source: Common Dreams [16:44] TR Bot Opinion | It Doesn't Matter to the Oligarchy How Many Mass Shootings There Are | Chris Hedges [16:55] matey https://techrights.org/2020/08/09/different-circumstances/ [16:55] TR Bot I Would Have Supported the Coup (Under Very Different Circumstances) | Techrights [16:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 29.55 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.50 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jun 07 [17:00] matey "speaking out is something Free software must do, and if the president cant do that, then the organisation is impotent." [17:00] matey knauth doesnt speak out, and neither will the next one [17:01] matey instead they "promote" free software like a product, but they dont speak out like an organisation that actually stands for freedom would [17:01] matey "join us so we can throw the fight for your freedom!" [17:03] matey "All versions of [their] plan involve creating new rules and stressing new priorities for Free software that just happen to cut rms and his supporters out of the picture." [17:05] matey "If you trust the people that did this, they will (continue to) do the same to you." [17:20] TR News LOL "multiple windows on iPads". Welcome to 1990s! https://www.maketecheasier.com/wwdc-2022-iphone-lock-screen-m2-chip/ [17:20] TR Bot WWDC 2022 Brings New iPhone Lock Screen and M2 Chip - Make Tech Easier [17:25] TR News How Garbage Collection works inside a Java Virtual Machine | https://opensource.com/article/22/6/garbage-collection-java-virtual-machine Source: FreeSW | RedHat | IBM | GNU | Linux [17:25] TR Bot Garbage Collection works inside a Java Virtual Machine | Opensource.com [17:28] TR News "I am a HiFi maniac, so I am affected greatly by this law. I can choose to buy a pair of headphones for $20, $200, or for over $2000. There is probably a 2-3x quality increase in sound between the $20 and $200 headphones. The difference in quality is even less noticeable from $200 to $2000." https://peter.czanik.hu/posts/lie-just-a-little-more/ [17:28] TR Bot The lie of 'Just a Little More' | Random thoughts of Peter 'CzP' Czanik [17:31] TR News Fedora 34 is EOL https://lwn.net/Articles/897247/ "As of the 7th of June 2022, Fedora 34 has reached its end of life for updates and support" [17:31] TR Bot 34 is EOL [LWN.net] [17:31] TR News "In this video, I am going to show an overview of deepin 20.6 and some of the applications pre-installed." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=d7dsRiuQOLc [17:32] TR Bot timed out after 10520 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=d7dsRiuQOLc ) [17:33] TR News "Sizable performance improvements with RHEL 9.0 were seen on both the Intel Ice Lake and AMD EPYC Milan(X) server platforms." So some of those chips sent to Michael are worth about $10,000 each (Milan) https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=redhat-rhel9-benchmarks&num=3 [17:33] TR Bot Hat Enterprise Linux 9.0 Performing Well, Great Benefit To Newer Intel Xeon & AMD EPYC Servers - Phoronix [17:36] TR News Thousands of PyPI and RubyGems RPMs now available for RHEL 9 https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/06/07/thousands-pypi-and-rubygems-rpms-now-available-rhel-9 [17:36] TR Bot timed out after 10520 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/06/07/thousands-pypi-and-rubygems-rpms-now-available-rhel-9 ) [17:37] TR News Mozilla Thunderbird: Welcome To The Thunderbird 102 Beta! Resources, Links, And Guides https://blog.thunderbird.net/2022/06/welcome-to-the-thunderbird-102-beta-resources-links-and-guides/ [17:37] TR Bot Welcome To The Thunderbird 102 Beta! Resources, Links, And Guides [17:38] TR News "Were pleased to announce the general availability of Red Hat Advanced Cluster Management for Kubernetes 2.5" https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-brings-greater-simplicity-and-flexibility-kubernetes-management-latest-version-red-hat-advanced-cluster-management-kubernetes [17:38] TR Bot timed out after 10519 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-brings-greater-simplicity-and-flexibility-kubernetes-management-latest-version-red-hat-advanced-cluster-management-kubernetes ) [17:39] TR News "Owl Labs has released security updates to address a vulnerability (CVE-2022-31460) in Meeting Owl Pro and Whiteboard Owl. An attacker could exploit this vulnerability to obtain sensitive information." https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/06/07/owl-labs-releases-security-updates-meeting-owl-pro-and-whiteboard [17:39] TR Bot timed out after 10520 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/06/07/owl-labs-releases-security-updates-meeting-owl-pro-and-whiteboard ) [17:39] TR News "The city of Kherson and Kherson region continues to be plunged into darkness through ongoing internet shutdowns. We, again, call on Russian authorities to immediately stop their interference." https://www.accessnow.org/digital-rights-ukraine-russia-conflict/ [17:39] TR Bot Updates: Digital rights in the Russia-Ukraine conflict - Access Now [17:41] TR News Suse bolsters security in Linux Enterprise 15 update http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165727#comment-33906 [17:41] TR Bot SUSE releases Service Pack 4 for Linux Enterprise 15 | Tux Machines [17:43] TR News "Vulnerabilities: Uncontrolled Resource Consumption, Improper Handling of Length Parameter Inconsistency, Improper Input Validation" https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-21-334-02 [17:43] TR Bot timed out after 10519 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-21-334-02 ) [17:43] TR News UN Experts join civil society in condemning Myanmar militarys digital dictatorship and call for Member State action - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/un-experts-civil-society-condemn-myanmar-military-digital-dictatorship/ Source: accessnow [17:43] TR Bot UN Experts join civil society in condemning Myanmar militarys digital dictatorship and call for Member State action - Access Now [17:44] TR News Compromise at last U.S. bipartisan data privacy bill is positive step towards tackling discrimination - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/us-bipartisan-data-privacy-bill/ Source: accessnow [17:44] TR Bot Compromise at last U.S. bipartisan data privacy bill is positive step towards tackling discrimination - Access Now [17:44] TR News [PATCH] arm64: Enable docker support in defconfig - Vincenzo Frascino https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220606140103.32779-1-vincenzo.frascino@arm.com/ Source: arm [17:44] TR Bot [PATCH] arm64: Enable docker support in defconfig - Vincenzo Frascino [17:44] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [17:48] psydruid M2 Macbook (Air/Pro): How to make an already expensive laptop even more expensive! [17:48] *oarion7 (~anonymous@user/oarion7) has joined #techrights [17:49] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@5tcc2vuaj9aks.irc) has joined #techrights [17:51] matey the difference between a macbook air and an ipad is where they put the electronics [17:51] matey in the ipad theyre in the screen, in the macbook air theyre in the keyboard [17:51] matey either way the screen detaches easily. but with the ipad you can reattach the keyboard [17:53] matey you can technically reattach the keyboard to the macbook air, but its probably cheaper to just replace it [17:56] TR News Apple sales must be REALLY bad... and don't let them blame "supply". Demand is low, now they use the "Linux" brand. https://www.imore.com/macos-ventura-includes-support-rosetta-arm-linux-vms https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/06/macos-ventura-will-extend-rosetta-support-to-linux-virtual-machines/ [17:56] TR Bot Ventura includes support for Rosetta in ARM Linux VMs | iMore [17:56] TR Bot Apple will allow Linux VMs to run Intel apps with Rosetta in macOS Ventura | Ars Technica [17:57] matey /me thinks the air will be retired before the ipad [17:57] matey apple has made design mistakes before [17:57] matey they enjoy making pcs that look like trashcans [17:57] matey theyve had touch sensors for power switches that stopped working [17:58] TR News LOL!!! "Packit shows basic information about allowlisting"... is that what Jim AllowHurst wanted to call it? https://packit.dev/posts/weekly/june-2022/ Fedora "community" = bots [17:58] matey i think one of the trashcans (the cube) had such a sensor [17:58] TR Bot timed out after 10520 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://packit.dev/posts/weekly/june-2022/ ) [17:58] matey they made a macbook out of titanium with two problems [17:58] matey the paint wouldnt hold and the hinge was too brittle [17:59] matey so theyll probably retire the macbook air as well [17:59] TR News Contribute at the Fedora Linux 37 Test Week for Kernel 5.18 https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/contribute-at-the-fedora-linux-37-test-week-for-kernel-5-18/ become a slave of ICBM, they might give you payment in the form of PANDA NFT [17:59] matey nobody wants a laptop with a screen so close to breaking off, its practically pre-broken [17:59] TR Bot timed out after 10520 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/contribute-at-the-fedora-linux-37-test-week-for-kernel-5-18/ ) [17:59] matey i like the form factor, but if the design is shit the form factor is moot ● Jun 07 [18:00] TR News If you work for Red Hat, you are "IBM employee 100% of the time." Like slaves in the barn of the slaveowners. [18:00] matey the hinge was too brittle <- that also applied to the rest of the case, but i think the hinge felt the worst of it [18:00] TR News Yes, IBM. Slavery is bad. So stop doing it. [18:02] TR News IBM Red Hat today: " Im looking for ranchers, not pet owners. Ranchers, the slaveowners in the farm. Sorry, I mean plantations. https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/6/digital-transformation-changing-it-hiring-game [18:02] TR Bot timed out after 10520 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/6/digital-transformation-changing-it-hiring-game ) [18:02] *Redfoxmoon has quit (Connection closed) [18:02] *Redfoxmoon (~Red@freenode-vq3.aj5.jaj210.IP) has joined #techrights [18:02] matey Apple's Butterfly keyboard design used in MacBooks since 2015 has not been overly popular among Apple's customers and now the company seems to finally understand that as the new 16 2020 MacBook does not have this type of keyboard anymore. https://www.cined.com/those-apple-keyboards-are-horrendous-screenwriting-oscar-winner-slams-macbook-keyboards/ [18:02] TR Bot Apple Keyboards are Horrendous" Screenwriting Oscar Winner Slams MacBook Keyboards | CineD [18:03] TR News ICBM cites as authority Gates-bribed think tanks like Gartner and Pew https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/6/new-normal-3-trends-are-changing-how-we-work [18:03] TR Bot The new normal: 3 trends that are changing how we work | The Enterprisers Project [18:04] matey They are impossible to write on. Theyve gotten worse. It makes me want to go back to PCs [18:04] matey /me wipes his forehead [18:04] matey dont fuck with this guy, he knows thor [18:04] TR News Municipalities using Free Software https://fsfe.org/news/nl/nl-202206.en.html [18:05] TR Bot timed out after 10519 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://fsfe.org/news/nl/nl-202206.en.html ) [18:05] matey The idea behind it was to design a flatter keyboard, which will allow for thinner laptops. Feedback from Apple’s customers has not been positive though. Many people have problems with the keyboard. Sometimes, the keys don’t register at all, sometimes they register the hit twice, and so on. It seems the reason is small particles of dust or debris that get stuck under the keys and jam the Butterfly mechanism. [18:06] matey the last time i borrowed a mac it was before 2015 [18:06] matey and i ran ubuntu on it [18:06] matey it wasnt mine, i did it live (like bill oreilly) [18:07] TR News Ready to transform the enterprise world? 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We are! | Arduino Blog [18:07] matey the last time i borrowed a mac it was before 2015 <- i should clarify, thats the last time i borrowed a macbook [18:08] TR News These are NOT for Windows https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/06/07/ti-sitara-am623-am625-cortex-a53-socs-offer-low-power-ai-for-hmi-and-iot-applications/ [18:08] matey ive since owned (but they were free) an old emac and a g4 desktop with a giant fucking screen [18:08] TR Bot timed out after 10519 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/06/07/ti-sitara-am623-am625-cortex-a53-socs-offer-low-power-ai-for-hmi-and-iot-applications/ ) [18:08] schestowitz_TR2 their screens costs like high-end PCs [18:08] matey i unloaded the g4 (and the screen) and i threw out the emac, though since they were stuck with very old versions of python i made some changes that accomodating them [18:09] schestowitz_TR2 and they don't have enough ports [18:09] matey their screens costs like high-end PCs <- gratis is gratis though, i got all of that used ($0) [18:09] matey and they don't have enough ports <- neither do my laptops, but fair enough [18:09] schestowitz_TR2 portable [18:09] matey im not a mac fan, i think the m2 is overhyped outside the typical fanboy commercialunity [18:09] matey its not a community [18:10] matey "the serf community" <- in more ancient times [18:11] matey theyre not a community, theyre a class of serfs [18:11] TR News NVIDIA opengpu driver: (open)SUSE packages available https://sndirsch.github.io/nvidia/2022/06/07/nvidia-opengpu.html [18:11] TR Bot NVIDIA opengpu driver: (open)SUSE packages available | Stefans openSUSE Blog [18:12] matey maybe you can have a community of enthusiastic CUSTOMERS [18:12] matey but once the company takes over, its not a community anymore, its just exploitation [18:12] matey like microsoft mvps [18:13] TR News SUSE uses Russian Invasion for Public Relations https://www.suse.com/c/share-the-meal/ [18:13] TR Bot Power of Many: Provide 30,000 meals to the Victims of the War in Ukraine | SUSE Communities [18:13] matey similarly, the fsf has moved outside the free software community [18:13] matey shills arent a community, its just exploitation [18:14] matey the opposite of free software [18:14] TR News KDE e.V. 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Board Meeting 2022 | [bobulate] [18:14] matey has moved outside the free software community <- this puts the movement in an awkward position [18:14] matey allow that which stands for nothing to be conflated with the movement, which helps destroy it [18:15] matey or, suffer the uncomfortable fact that a large portion of what was formerly a community has simply ceased to exist [18:15] matey the free software community fights for freedom [18:15] matey that which does NOT stand for freedom cannot say it is part of a community that does [18:16] matey its like saying im a doctor, when i dont hold a doctorate or do work in that field [18:16] matey "the medical community" nope [18:17] matey the medical community is certified and practices medicine [18:17] matey if you do marketing for the industry that doesnt make you part of "the medical community" [18:17] matey it makes you a marketer [18:17] matey shills dont stand for your freedom-- if they did, they wouldnt be shills [18:18] matey there are actual sides to this-- and while a lot of people form "sides" for stupid and pointless reasons, this isnt one of them [18:18] matey of course the people on the fake side of it will insist that such sides are pointless [18:18] matey even phipps did that [18:19] TR News 15 Best Linux Video Players in 2022: Must-try for Movie Lovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165729 [18:19] TR Bot 15 Best Linux Video Players in 2022: Must-try for Movie Lovers | Tux Machines [18:19] matey people who object to ibm taking over are dividing the community and being petty tribalists! [18:19] matey ok slime-on [18:19] matey /me prefers cowell [18:20] matey open source is just a free software cover band that cant play for shit [18:21] matey they should get 4 red xs, theyre crap [18:24] matey "Apple is finally slowly getting rid of the Butterfly mechanism. It seems they are coming back to some form of the original scissor mechanism." [18:24] matey as far as i know ive never seen one of these things [18:25] TR News "Welcome, June --we're opening the month with another great week. Here's what the Apache community has been up to..." https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the-apache-news-round-up259 [18:25] TR Bot The Apache News Round-up: week ending 3 June 2022 : The Apache Software Foundation Blog [18:25] matey the only apple keyboards i ever owned were ancient second hand usb things [18:25] TR News Kiwi TCMS: Zaklina, welcome to the Kiwi TCMS team https://kiwitcms.org/blog/kiwi-tcms-team/2022/06/07/zaklina-welcome-to-the-kiwi-tcms-team/ [18:25] TR Bot timed out after 10520 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://kiwitcms.org/blog/kiwi-tcms-team/2022/06/07/zaklina-welcome-to-the-kiwi-tcms-team/ ) [18:26] matey and while they did work with a pc (in fact, every apple product i ever got my hands on, short of the OLD OLD OLD mac someone dumped on me running system 7! worked with pc components) i threw out my apple usb keyboards [18:27] matey because they seemed to do something peculiar and undesirable when plugged into laptop ports that didnt show up immediately and which i dont pretend to understand [18:27] matey maybe they were expecting more current? maybe the only worked reliably on a "hub"? [18:28] matey i dont know, but since my regular pc keyboards didnt have that issue, and the older mac keyboards werent a real joy to type on, i just didnt keep them [18:28] matey i did experiment with such things because whenever possible, its my preference to know what im talking about [18:29] matey someone who worked in a computer shop said "you cant use that screen with a pc, its not normal dvi" [18:29] matey he was bullshit, it worked fine with a regular pc dvi port [18:29] matey that thing was fucking huge and weighed a shitload [18:29] matey but it was fun for a week or so, then i gave it back [18:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [18:30] matey (i could have kept it, but it wasnt useful to me) [18:30] matey for similar reasons, i would never own a hummer [18:30] TR News Will Thompson: Release (semi-)automation Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165731 [18:30] TR Bot Will Thompson: Release (semi-)automation | Tux Machines [18:30] matey no use for it, more trouble than its worth [18:31] matey i wouldnt use a jackhammer to put a picture on the wall [18:31] matey some people are very proud of owning such things, and some people even have a use for them at least [18:31] matey thats no problem [18:33] matey i could use a slightly larger screen. but id rather have one that isnt more than need, and definitely something less heavy than the ginormous mac screen i owned [18:33] matey it was like a drive in movie by my standards. as ive said before i prefer projectors-- larger area (with caveats of course) and they are smaller and weigh far less [18:34] matey too bad they burn out or id still have one [18:38] psydruid I had a discussion with someone today and they were arguing about not being able to run editors for game engines on some operating systems [18:38] psydruid primarily proprietary Unreal Engine was cited as an example [18:38] psydruid so I've just downloaded this thing after going through some hoops [18:39] matey I had a discussion with someone today and they were arguing about not being able to run editors for game engines on some operating systems <- hmm [18:39] psydruid and when I set it up before building it requests Mono?! [18:39] matey and when I set it up before building it requests Mono? <- what engine? [18:39] psydruid what is this crap (other than being hosted on Github) [18:39] matey unity of course is based on mono [18:39] psydruid Unreal Engine [18:39] psydruid apparently needs it too [18:40] matey oh yeah well [18:40] matey unreal engine is arseholeware [18:40] psydruid I just wanted to verify the point he was making [18:40] matey i mean its not just the developers who are arseholes [18:40] psydruid because I already built Godot and some other engines today [18:40] matey systemd is the classic example-- the software itself is an arsehole [18:41] matey because I already built Godot and some other engines today <- even godot is better than mono or unrealistic tournament [18:41] matey monononono [18:41] psydruid https://analyticsindiamag.com/5-open-source-game-engines-that-developers-should-get-their-hands-on/ [18:41] TR Bot 5 Open Source Game Engines That Developers Should Get Their Hands On [18:41] psydruid yeah [18:41] matey yay open source [18:41] matey the corporate mating call [18:41] psydruid of course everything is on arseholehub [18:41] matey before they give it to you without lube [18:42] psydruid lol [18:42] matey of course everything is on arseholehub <- i heard of an os today that was NOT based on arsehub [18:43] matey gitlab, at least [18:43] matey i know gitlab sucks a lot, its main claim to fame is its not arsehub [18:43] matey which is fair, but thats still a low bar [18:44] matey many leaders pass the at least theyre not hitler/stalin/pooh test [18:44] psydruid these sourceforges just took advantage of the fact that you're not allowed to run services from home [18:44] psydruid and hardware is often expensive and consumes a lot of power [18:44] matey you're not allowed to run services from home <- tor really is the best solution to this, at this time [18:44] matey surprisingly easy to configure [18:45] matey then all you have to do is-- run services like you would on your own lan [18:45] psydruid but that is all changing now [18:45] psydruid yes [18:45] matey so its slow-- who gives a fuck, its free [18:45] matey as freedom, and price [18:45] matey granted its rust, which doesnt make me happy [18:45] matey a fork of tor would be nice [18:45] matey and tor was part of the coup [18:45] matey as was not-so-libreoffice [18:46] matey as was gnupg [18:46] TR News Science fiction halberts? gemini://alexschroeder.ch/page/2022-06-07%20Science%20fiction%20halberts%3F [18:46] matey now theres no alternative i know of to gnupg [18:46] psydruid and you can just run your lightweight git server for decentralisation with a few people syncing directly from it [18:46] matey and its so important, i make an exception for it (under protest) and actually recommend gnupg [18:46] matey even if the author is a dick [18:46] matey and a traitor [18:47] matey gnupg is (sadly) that important [18:47] psydruid or a tom [18:47] psydruid or a harry [18:47] matey i hold next to nothing so important [18:47] psydruid it's all in the name [18:47] matey i also make a similar (begrudging) tolerance of the tor project [18:47] matey they have all the same problems-- PLUS rust! [18:47] matey but i say the same thing about tor and gnupg that i do about all other projects that betrayed the movement [18:48] matey a fork would be ideal [18:48] psydruid I don't understand why they love rust so much [18:48] matey rust takes something and makes it easier [18:48] matey it may slather on a bunch of mythology to make it more appealing, youd be better off asking a software engineer if thats so [18:49] matey i consider rust (and python 3) unstable and unsustainable [18:49] matey and a form of user exploitation [18:49] matey with tor, i really believe the level of exploitation an subjugation it OFFSETS makes it worthwhile [18:49] matey same for gnupg [18:50] matey its under protest because OFFSET subjugation is not NEGATED or non-existent subjugation [18:50] matey theyre still doing something bad [18:50] matey but tor CAN help people THAT MUCH [18:51] matey and of the following: icecat, tor browser, mozilla (any official version) and ungoogled chromium [18:51] matey i think tor browser is the least terrible, and since both tor browser and mozilla signed the anti-rms letter, its better to have one than both [18:51] matey having ANY alternative to mozilla is better than having mozilla too [18:52] matey but ive reviewed so many of those, and used some (including icecat) [18:52] matey icecat doesnt exist for bsd so it requires linux-- not useful to me [18:52] matey mozilla belongs on a spike-- not useful to me [18:52] matey tor browser is actually a non-github fork of mozilla [18:52] matey thats fucking rare! [18:52] matey it may be the only one [18:53] matey i dont know any other mozilla fork thats non-gh but one may exist [18:53] matey tor browser actually reduces internet censorship in some countries [18:53] matey it even has users i know personally that benefit from this [18:53] matey i dont like the tor project, but i like the browser [18:53] matey too bad its written in rust [18:54] matey actually moving away from the web is definitely a good iea [18:54] matey idea [18:54] matey you can see that compromise exists on the web from every angle [18:54] matey thats not good [18:54] matey but even if you got rid of the web, tor is still useful even then [18:54] matey and that much of tor should be forkable easily enough, even if tor browser is not [18:55] matey so you see there are several ways in which a fork of tor would be VERY worthwhile [18:55] matey its the most accessible (easy to learn, use, whatever) way around dns [18:55] matey and dns is an utter shit [18:55] matey we should abandon it imo [18:55] matey at least consider it legacy shit to avoid if we can [18:55] matey get away from it like the web [18:56] matey theres stuff like gnunet too, which is interesting [18:56] matey but its gnu [18:56] matey if someone can fork gnunet to do what tor does though [18:56] matey awesome, id like to see that [18:57] matey some shit is really worthy of a good fork [18:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 29.55 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.50 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [18:59] *XRevan86 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Jun 07 [19:00] *XRevan86 (~XRevan86@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #techrights [19:00] *lockeanarchist has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:01] *lockeanarchist (~lockeanarchist@dbx7zd6rdshfe.irc) has joined #techrights [19:02] TR News Stuff Michael Meeks is doing. Blog migrated. https://meeksfamily.uk/~michael [19:02] TR Bot Stuff Michael Meeks is doing [19:03] matey i think people are living in a post-gnu world [19:03] matey newer isnt always better [19:03] matey and post-gnu is far from ideal for gnu [19:04] matey pretending gnu has a future wont help-- if gnu wants a future it would have to stand for freedom [19:04] matey if it doesnt, its dead [19:04] matey netscape is dead, and mozilla WAS more free than netscape (now, its closer to being non-free) [19:05] matey still, you can have something MORE free based on something thats dead [19:05] matey its still possible for people to liberate parts of gnu [19:05] matey i consider it unlikely because of the lack of overlap between people who care about freedom and people who care about gnu [19:05] matey but its not impossible [19:06] matey because its unlikely, we are in a post-gnu world [19:06] matey id rather gnu stood for something, that would bring it relevance [19:06] matey people might still dismiss it, but if it stands for something, thats significant [19:06] matey you can side with the fact that it stands for something, or you can side with the people who dismiss it anyway [19:07] matey but if theres no such fact, theres nothing worth siding with [19:07] matey its dead [19:07] matey maybe someday parts of it will be liberated and rejuvenated [19:07] matey so, its a real shame that gnu never cared about being forkable [19:08] matey "well were out of cake! we only had a couple of bits and we werent expecting such a rush!"-- eddie izzard [19:08] matey "so my choices are 'OR death?'" [19:08] *immibis (~hexchat@acad4bt9wne9w.irc) has joined #techrights [19:08] matey people who dont care about forkability and claim to give freedom 3 are sort of having a laugh [19:09] *immibis (~hexchat@62.156.144.218) has joined #techrights [19:09] matey things that are forkable tend to get forked. good forks often get merged back too! [19:09] matey why do people get down on forks then, when good forks often get merged back? [19:09] matey simple-- they prefer control! [19:09] matey what is control? the flip side of freedom [19:09] matey so when i say that gnu doesnt stand for anything, i really do mean it [19:10] matey it doesnt understand, doesnt want to, and doesnt care [19:10] matey same with github [19:10] matey dont understand, dont care, dont want to [19:10] matey with that attitude you might as well be talking to lennart! [19:10] matey why do developers become douchebags? [19:10] matey i think its the other way around-- a lot of douchebags become developers [19:11] matey we should teach more non-douchebags, maybe things will improve some [19:11] matey i think its the other way around <- some do sell out, obviously [19:11] matey but i think linus for example, was always a bit of a douchebag [19:12] matey and obviously gkh and zemlin moreso [19:12] matey open source eats their own [19:12] matey now the fsf does too [19:12] matey say hi, richard! *makes him wave* [19:12] matey hes very happy here! [19:12] psydruid my take on it is that gnu didn't want to be forkable, as that was often seen as a hostile move [19:13] matey we are treating him well [19:13] matey my take on it is that gnu didn't want to be forkable, as that was often seen as a hostile move <- i agree [19:13] psydruid whereas in nature organisms fork all the time in all kinds of ways [19:13] matey they made the classic mistake of "we arent controlling it if we are controlling it so people are free" [19:13] matey the problem is, if you cant trust people with forks [19:13] matey you cant trust them with freedom 3 [19:13] matey you cant trust them with (and ultimately arent creating) free software [19:14] matey so ultimately i agree with your assessment that this problem existed from the beginning [19:14] matey the only thing is-- in much the way that apple STARTED WITH bsd and thus a better security model than windows [19:14] matey they have also worked to gut that in every way possible [19:14] matey so its a miracle that any security or stability remains at all, as its all been kneecapped [19:15] matey this is an overgeneralisation. i think its more true than not [19:15] matey saying apple does security is funny [19:15] matey gnu started with forkability [19:15] matey of course it did-- it was (SORT OF) a fork! [19:15] matey a rewrite, but still [19:15] matey they chose something modular to rewrite [19:16] matey they rewrote it similarly, in separate parts [19:16] matey this is modularity by default [19:16] matey then the gnu philosophy applied, making it less modular (not half as badly as systemd, and yet) [19:16] matey today it is less forkable (by design) [19:16] matey hostile to forks [19:17] matey yet it claims freedom 3 because LICENSE SAYS SO [19:17] matey you know whats like? [19:17] matey thats like saying the constitution GUARANTEES free speech [19:17] matey and every time you EXERCISE that right, i hit you with tear gas from helicopters [19:17] matey THE CONSTITUTION GUARANTEES FREEDOM! [19:17] matey *more tear gas on protestors* [19:17] matey the license guarantees freedom 3! [19:18] matey *makes everything less forkable and tells everyone forking is bad* [19:18] DaemonFC I noticed there's some rust on the inner trim on the rocker. [19:18] matey join us so we can pay lip service to your freedom! [19:18] DaemonFC It's not that bad though. [19:18] matey openbsd isnt a movement [19:18] matey its just software [19:18] DaemonFC If I still own the car in 6-7 years and it starts to break through and the rest of the car is fine, I'll just pull that trim off another car and have it repainted. [19:19] matey its well designed and VERY forkable [19:19] DaemonFC Or fiberglass that as well, I suppose. [19:19] matey a movement could make use of such software, if it wants to actually GIVE freedom 3 along with promises of freedom 3 [19:19] matey or even if it wants to TAKE freedom 3 for itself and for others [19:19] matey but for whatever reason, gnu cant do this [19:20] matey and the evidence is that gnu DOESNT do this [19:20] matey its not proof, per se, but people should maybe take notice [19:20] matey offers freedom-- doesnt deliver [19:20] matey gnu, fsf and its "supporters" [19:20] matey it did work, and i said why it worked too [19:21] psydruid that's why gnu/fsf+linux is doomed [19:21] matey because it started with freedom 3 by default [19:21] matey that's why gnu/fsf+linux is doomed <- yep, thats why [19:21] matey and if enough people cared about that they could do something to fix it [19:21] CrystalMath matey: what do you mean GNU doesn't do this? [19:21] matey but im pretty sure-- because its pretty obvious [19:22] matey the people who do care that much will ultimately choose a saner path [19:22] matey you dont try to liberate the hardest to liberate stuff [19:22] matey if you can achieve all of your goals by liberating something easier to liberate [19:22] matey if the exact same goals are easier, people will do that [19:22] matey not open source-- its easier, because its goals are more mediocre [19:22] matey i mean really truly the same goals [19:23] matey if there are two ways to do that, with the same results, and one is easier [19:23] CrystalMath matey: what do you mean GNU isn't standing for freedom? [19:23] matey people wont make it more difficult for nothing [19:23] CrystalMath do you even care to provide any proof for these claims? [19:23] matey they wont opt for whats harder to fork if the end result is barely any better [19:23] matey in rare instances where its worth the extra hassle, they might [19:24] matey but reasonable alternatives exist so [19:24] CrystalMath okay i guess it's matey spam hour then [19:24] matey why wont they opt for those? the answer is "theres no reason they wont" [19:24] matey they probably will, so gnu is DOUBLY dead [19:24] CrystalMath this channel has really deteriorated [19:24] matey we are still talking about extremely unlikely, rather than impossible [19:24] matey in MOST instances they are the same thing [19:24] CrystalMath being off freenode made it worse, i feel [19:25] matey but not all [19:25] matey so we will see. but also, gnu will more likely remain dead [19:25] *matey has quit (connection closed) [19:26] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165732 [19:26] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [19:29] schestowitz_TR2 this channel has really deteriorated [19:29] schestowitz_TR2 \not really [19:29] schestowitz_TR2 what was better before? [19:29] schestowitz_TR2 please explain [19:30] TR News Hacks.Mozilla.Org: Training efficient neural network models for Firefox Translations https://hacks.mozilla.org/2022/06/training-efficient-neural-network-models-for-firefox-translations/ [19:30] CrystalMath well idk, it used to have more active meaningful discussions on free software stuff [19:30] TR Bot Training efficient neural network models for Firefox Translations - Mozilla Hacks - the Web developer blog [19:30] CrystalMath but maybe more things were going on [19:31] schestowitz_TR2 wait [19:31] schestowitz_TR2 here's the thing [19:31] schestowitz_TR2 free software asd a topic slipped in the past year [19:31] schestowitz_TR2 for whatever reason [19:31] CrystalMath but why? [19:31] schestowitz_TR2 same for patents about a decade back [19:31] schestowitz_TR2 and it's not too clear why [19:31] schestowitz_TR2 topics are coming and going in waves [19:31] CrystalMath that makes sense [19:31] schestowitz_TR2 around snowden time (2013-15) privcacy was a super-hopt topi [19:32] schestowitz_TR2 prior to it srone strikes [19:32] schestowitz_TR2 when woikileaks was very active there were other angles [19:32] CrystalMath that's a funny typo: wokeyleaks [19:32] schestowitz_TR2 heh [19:32] CrystalMath i need to use it sometime [19:33] CrystalMath "wokeypedia" works well [19:33] CrystalMath because they're woke [19:33] schestowitz_TR2 go to fsf.oirg [19:33] schestowitz_TR2 go to blog [19:33] schestowitz_TR2 see when they last said something meaningful [19:34] CrystalMath hmm, indeed [19:34] TR News Mike Blumenkrantz: "After my last blog post I was so exhausted I had to take a week off, but Im back. 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[19:53] schestowitz-TR Not to even be taken seriously anymore [19:53] schestowitz-TR no matter which corporate party [19:53] schestowitz-TR and thus it must be dealt with as a political issue [19:53] schestowitz-TR Ask the Polosis how much they preofited from Biden's bailout to Microsoft [19:53] schestowitz-TR It's like he's passing federal money into his pocket [19:53] schestowitz-TR and months ago demands were made to ban politicians from stocktrading [19:54] Techrights-sec yes he is [19:54] Techrights-sec and he's passing influence into the legislature via his wife, that conflict [19:54] Techrights-sec of interest is unavoidable [19:56] TR News Jussi Pakkanen: Creating your own math-themed jigsaw puzzle from scratch https://nibblestew.blogspot.com/2022/06/creating-your-own-math-themed-jigsaw.html [19:56] TR Bot Nibble Stew: Creating your own math-themed jigsaw puzzle from scratch ● Jun 07 [20:02] Techrights-sec of interest is unavoidable in that situation but banning stock trading [20:02] Techrights-sec while in office for the politician and their spouse would prevent that [20:02] Techrights-sec but the lobbying money from Wallstreet would prevent that as handily as [20:02] Techrights-sec they did prevent Warren from running for office. [20:12] TR News "First up in the news: Ubuntu is out-fedoring Fedora; Linux 5.18 brings new optimizations; the Budgie has landed; Debian 12 has a projected birthday, and Asahi has its first Alpha;" https://mintcast.org/2022/06/07/383-ubuntu-is-out-fedoring-fedora/ [20:12] TR Bot 383 Ubuntu is out-fedoring Fedora mintCast [20:19] TR News Links 07/06/2022: SUSE Linux Enterprise 15 Service Pack 4 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/07/sle-15-sp4/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/07/sle-15-sp4/ [20:20] TR Bot Links 07/06/2022: SUSE Linux Enterprise 15 Service Pack 4 | Techrights [20:26] TR News Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165737 [20:26] TR Bot Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [20:26] TR News Free Software Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165738 [20:26] TR Bot Free Software Leftovers | Tux Machines [20:26] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165739 [20:26] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [20:37] *KiKi_ (~KiKi@e38kzwsbvddm6.irc) has joined #techrights [20:43] TR News Many once-fine sites got sold and became brokers of misinformation, purveyors of corporate lies [20:44] TR News Microsoft dominates this list because it barely patches holes that are already known to be widely exploited https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/current-activity/2022/06/07/cisa-provides-criteria-and-process-updates-kev-catalog [20:44] TR Bot CISA Provides Criteria and Process for Updates to the KEV Catalog | CISA [20:46] TR News This isn't an issue with Linux itself; these are Microsoft operatives in the media trying to change the subject and shift attention/blame, as usual https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/linux-version-of-black-basta-ransomware-targets-vmware-esxi-servers/ [20:46] TR Bot Linux version of Black Basta ransomware targets VMware ESXi servers [20:47] TR News BSidesSF 2022 CTF: Cow Say What? https://systemoverlord.com/2022/06/07/bsidessf-ctf-2022-cow-say-what.html [20:47] TR Bot BSidesSF 2022 CTF: Cow Say What? 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They are facing the death penalty" [21:20] TR Bot . [21:21] *immibis has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [21:21] *immibis has quit (connection closed) [21:21] *immibis (~hexchat@acad4bt9wne9w.irc) has joined #techrights [21:21] *immibis (~hexchat@62.156.144.218) has joined #techrights [21:29] TR News "Regarding paperwork, we are getting closer. It was very exciting to go to the consulate to request our visas. The idea of us moving to another continent felt even more real when going there. But we still have to wait..." gemini://compudanzas.net/biosejo_120220607.gmi [21:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [21:30] *orgg (~b9f3da20@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [21:30] *techrights-news has quit (Received malformed line) [21:32] *techrights-news (~techrights-news@hcdms2vr9hu9e.irc) has joined #techrights [21:32] TR News "both of these examples point to what i'm having the hardest time with, which is that de certeau seems to have an entirely metaphorical relationship to critical theory and an insufficiently antagonistic relationship with the world that critical theory so powerfully describes." gemini://aidn.flounder.online/gemlog/2022-06-07.gmi [21:33] schestowitz "Parenting is messy, it's emergent. There are [21:33] schestowitz constantly things that will get in the way of a perfectly designed parenting [21:33] schestowitz trajectory, and you have to constantly adjust course, improvise, be flexible." gemini://asymmetric.smol.pub/parenting-books [21:34] *techrights-news has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:35] schestowitz "The "Street Performer Protocol" is a classic vision for how creative works could be funded without using copyright to prevent copying. In short, the work is released only once people have pledged enough money to pass a threshold set by the creator." gemini://gemini.thegonz.net/glog/220607-progressiveStreetPerformerProtocol.gmi [21:35] *techrights-news (~techrights-news@hcdms2vr9hu9e.irc) has joined #techrights [21:38] orgg BITCOIN [21:38] DaemonFC That's assuming an awful lot of the parents. [21:38] DaemonFC Like that they even care or think much about becoming pregnant while they're high on drugs and fucking strangers without a condom. [21:39] DaemonFC The least productive are the most reproductive. [21:39] orgg wait Xh until you mine enough bitcoin to pay for this work [21:40] DaemonFC schestowitz, The Pelosis? [21:40] DaemonFC Husband drunk in traffic. [21:40] DaemonFC Wife drunk in Congress. [21:41] orgg only stupid drunk and druged people have kids this days [21:42] orgg so much for natural selection [21:42] DaemonFC so much for natural selection [21:42] orgg i guess natural selection comes with all of them having guns [21:42] DaemonFC The government pays. It's not their money. [21:43] DaemonFC All these poor stupid people with 3 kids dangling off their legs do is sit back and wait for $8,000 tax refunds when all they paid that year was $1,000. [21:44] DaemonFC Then they get like $500 in food stamps and $300 rent. [21:44] DaemonFC While everyone else has to suffer and pick up three jobs. [21:44] DaemonFC It's easier to just lay on your back and pop out units. [21:45] DaemonFC The government spent a lot of time hashing out this system where they work you to death to bribe idiots to reproduce. [21:45] *zleap has quit (Quit: Leaving) [21:45] orgg thats capitalism for you [21:46] DaemonFC Mandy wonders why I'm building fan-based air purifiers. [21:46] orgg who? [21:46] DaemonFC Well, in addition to the coal plant, there's a lovely smog descending on the neighborhood this afternoon, and something is on fire down the street. [21:46] DaemonFC This is fairly normal for some reason. [21:47] TR News Daily Gemroll (Like Blogroll But for Gemini and Sometimes Gopher or Spartan) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/07/geminispace-gemroll/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/07/geminispace-gemroll/ [21:47] TR Bot Daily Gemroll (Like Blogroll But for Gemini and Sometimes Gopher or Spartan) | Techrights [21:47] DaemonFC It's like what the fuck is this? Beijing? [21:47] DaemonFC And schestowitz thinks that Waukegan is going to get flipped soon. [21:47] orgg just get a mask and stfu :) [21:47] DaemonFC They keep saying that, since 1978. [21:48] DaemonFC It's still the biggest outhouse in Lake County. [21:48] schestowitz_TR2 what do you mean by flipped exactly? [21:48] schestowitz_TR2 and when did I say that|? [21:48] schestowitz_TR2 I just flattered their web site, that's all [21:48] orgg Waukegan? [21:49] schestowitz_TR2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waukegan,_Illinois [21:49] TR Bot Waukegan, Illinois - Wikipedia [21:49] schestowitz_TR2 https://www.waukeganil.gov/ [21:49] TR Bot Waukegan, IL - Official Website | Official Website [21:49] DaemonFC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outhouse#United_States [21:49] TR Bot Outhouse - Wikipedia [21:50] schestowitz_TR2 site made with https://www.civicplus.com/ [21:50] TR Bot The Integrated Technology Platform | Software for Local Government [21:50] schestowitz_TR2 never heard of it [21:50] schestowitz_TR2 not civiccrm [21:50] DaemonFC Yeah, I remember Grandpa telling me that before toilet paper, they just saved all their old magazines and the department store catalogues. [21:50] schestowitz_TR2 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=CiviCRM&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&ns0=1https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=CiviCRM&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&ns0=1 [21:50] TR Bot CiviCRM - Search results - Wikipedia [21:50] schestowitz_TR2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CiviCRM [21:50] TR Bot CiviCRM - Wikipedia [21:50] DaemonFC People were actually really frugal back then. If you told them you wanted them to spend $30 a month on something to wipe their asses with, they would have laughed at you. [21:51] schestowitz_TR2 now the papers are glossy [21:51] schestowitz_TR2 these are not the same papers anymore [21:51] orgg in europe people can wash their butts on the bide [21:52] orgg might be cheaper then toilet paper [21:53] orgg more eco friendly too [21:53] schestowitz_TR2 except you need to make another bowl [21:53] schestowitz_TR2 manufacturing etc./ [21:54] schestowitz_TR2 the women's bidet [21:54] schestowitz_TR2 some toilet seats come with hose [21:54] schestowitz_TR2 those are not requiring additional "seat" [21:54] schestowitz_TR2 japan has its own things [21:54] orgg yes ive seen it [21:55] schestowitz_TR2 iirc, a lot of toilet paper material is grown in places like peru [21:55] orgg still you should use soap [21:55] schestowitz_TR2 lots of transport and dead trees [21:55] schestowitz_TR2 which is wasteful [21:56] TR News Well, "metaverse" is pure bullshit, so this article is bullshit (just say VR; been there, done that) https://www.politico.com/newsletters/digital-future-daily/2022/06/07/human-rights-in-the-metaverse-00037853 [21:56] TR Bot rights in the metaverse- POLITICO [21:56] orgg metaverse = methhead entrapment [21:57] MinceR meatverse [21:57] DaemonFC these are not the same papers anymore [21:57] DaemonFC I noticed what they do. [21:57] TR News SPAR uses kids and women's hygiene for marketing/PR stunts https://germistoncitynews.co.za/290969/spar-supports-local-non-profit-in-the-fight-against-period-poverty/ [21:57] TR Bot SPAR supports local non-profit in the fight against period poverty Germiston City News [21:57] orgg in the metaverse you wont get pregnat or catch stfs [21:57] orgg stds [21:58] DaemonFC The Viva paper towels are textured to grab household messes, but they make toilet paper to smear things around instead of picking it up so you'll use more of it. [21:58] DaemonFC Cheaper to use Viva paper towels and throw them in the trash can. [21:58] TR News "In the last couple of years, I have really started to write everything in Org Mode. Whether it be articles, documentation, scripts, programming...I use Org for all of it. But, there is one thing that kind of bugged me, especially with my literate programming using Org. I hated having to constantly run org-babel-tangle to export my files. I found a solution!" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=D3FzMPZm7vY [21:58] TR Bot Write Everything In Emacs Org Mode? You NEED This Plugin! - Invidious [21:58] DaemonFC I set them aside after I use them for dinner and I use those to wipe up messes on the floor or to put in the bathroom later. [21:59] schestowitz_TR2 toilet papers are the new razor blade ● Jun 07 [22:00] schestowitz_TR2 they make them shit [22:00] DaemonFC It comes down to like 5 cents to tear off pieces of paper towel vs. like 20 cents worth of toilet paper. [22:00] DaemonFC It's ridiculous. [22:00] schestowitz_TR2 and they don't have much use [22:00] schestowitz_TR2 coarse and cheap [22:00] schestowitz_TR2 then they make up by quantities [22:00] schestowitz_TR2 number of blades [22:00] schestowitz_TR2 number of plies [22:00] schestowitz_TR2 schools always have the cheapest and worst [22:00] DaemonFC Yeah, Georgia-Pacific. [22:01] DaemonFC They make something even worse than Angel Soft and sell it to businesses in bulk. [22:01] schestowitz_TR2 maybe not for staff [22:01] schestowitz_TR2 but for clients [22:01] schestowitz_TR2 like in malls [22:01] DaemonFC Yeah, Walmart. [22:01] schestowitz_TR2 where you don't piss off and have the store blamed [22:01] DaemonFC I call it Clint Eastwood Toilet Paper. [22:01] schestowitz_TR2 otherwise clients might taken the piss [22:01] schestowitz_TR2 quite literally [22:02] DaemonFC It's rough and it's tough and it don't take shit off anybody. [22:02] schestowitz_TR2 and they won't "take that shit" [22:02] schestowitz_TR2 btw, the analogy i've long use it [22:02] schestowitz_TR2 is that clown computing is public toilet [22:02] schestowitz_TR2 it can "save" you money [22:02] DaemonFC It is. [22:03] schestowitz_TR2 if you consider some downsides [22:03] DaemonFC They tell you to save water by only flushing the toilet when there's "solid waste". [22:03] schestowitz_TR2 you can save the cost of owning a "throne" [22:03] schestowitz_TR2 or server [22:03] schestowitz_TR2 but over time you realise you save nothing [22:03] DaemonFC Yeah, if you want the toilet to smell like the South Chicago Metra stations. [22:03] schestowitz_TR2 and it's very, very gross [22:03] DaemonFC And to get dyed yellow with all of the salts and toxins and crap that drop out of your urine. [22:03] DaemonFC Then you're dumping chemicals in and scrubbing it all back off. [22:04] DaemonFC Those cost more money and are worse for the environment than flushing more often. [22:04] schestowitz_TR2 not sure of toilet hygiene in the US [22:04] DaemonFC Something similar happens to stagnant engine coolant that nobody ever changes out in a car for 10-15 years. [22:04] schestowitz_TR2 don't think I ever used public toilets there [22:05] schestowitz_TR2 they should flush every time [22:05] DaemonFC The suspended detergents and other additives "drop out". [22:05] DaemonFC And they leave a nice gunk on your radiator and the hoses and the thermostat and water pump and heater core. [22:05] schestowitz_TR2 then agauin [22:05] schestowitz_TR2 seeing how flint was treated [22:05] schestowitz_TR2 and how you let the pipes age while bombing other countries [22:05] DaemonFC And then you're lucky if you can run super flush through it and not have one hell of an expensive repair. [22:05] schestowitz_TR2 I reckon your public toilets are very ... CAPITALIST [22:05] schestowitz_TR2 all about "efficiency" and "savings" [22:05] DaemonFC *I* didn't let them do anything, Roy. [22:06] DaemonFC I'm not a voter in Michigan and it wouldn't make any difference in public policy if I was. [22:06] DaemonFC They stripped those people of their right to vote in a government with the "Emergency Manager" bill. [22:06] orgg CAPITALIST is about the opposit [22:06] DaemonFC Then the Governor appointed some other criminal that had absolute authority to do whatever he wanted to do. [22:06] orgg the more you wate the better [22:06] schestowitz_TR2 they use to have public faucetss [22:06] orgg waste [22:06] DaemonFC Not answerable to the voters, the city council, anyone. [22:07] orgg the more you consume the better [22:07] orgg that capitalism [22:07] schestowitz_TR2 I guess that cuts into the profit of the plastic/aluminium-with-water in it "business" [22:07] DaemonFC So Michigan saw the disaster that unfolded and repealed the Emergency Manager law with a ballot initiative to strip the governor of that authority. [22:07] DaemonFC So the governor and the legislature passed another emergency manager law that was only barely different than the last one. [22:07] DaemonFC "Democracy!" [22:07] schestowitz_TR2 the cloest you get to a public faucet, except in some airports, is leaning over to the hand washing basins in toilets [22:08] schestowitz_TR2 and even then you ned to use the hands [22:08] DaemonFC It's the same in every state. [22:08] DaemonFC Same shit, different assholes. [22:08] schestowitz_TR2 humans need water [22:08] schestowitz_TR2 not code machines with ddt and acids [22:08] schestowitz_TR2 *coke [22:09] DaemonFC There's an overall agenda to this and the rich will just dump unlimited money to make sure the people have no control over their state no matter which one they move to. [22:09] DaemonFC schestowitz_TR2, $10 for a fucking case of Coke. [22:09] DaemonFC $10 plus TAX. [22:09] schestowitz_TR2 they should pay you to inject it [22:09] DaemonFC Like, how is their stock up? Who is still buying this? [22:09] orgg colombian? [22:09] schestowitz_TR2 ingest [22:10] schestowitz_TR2 they even used to put cocaine in coca cola bottles [22:10] DaemonFC Every year it goes up another dollar. [22:10] schestowitz_TR2 to get you addicted [22:10] DaemonFC It's almost like cigarettes. [22:10] schestowitz_TR2 sugar addiction is also a thing [22:10] schestowitz_TR2 they put syrup [22:10] orgg cigarettes dont kill people [22:10] DaemonFC I called it back when Preckwinkle got her penny an ounce soda tax in Cook County. It was already quite expensive. [22:10] DaemonFC They repealed it after only two months. [22:10] orgg guns do [22:11] DaemonFC But I stopped drinking soda because I just didn't want to pay the cost or the tax anymore. [22:11] schestowitz_TR2 maybe they did some 'research' into which sweeteners cause more dependability and cravings [22:11] DaemonFC schestowitz_TR2, Sometimes I'll buy the Walmart knockoff of Crystal Light and dump that into my Brita-filtered water. [22:11] DaemonFC And that hits the spot a lot damned cheaper than Coca Cola! [22:12] schestowitz_TR2 cheaper to make tea [22:12] schestowitz_TR2 or coffee [22:12] schestowitz_TR2 and no added sweeteners [22:12] schestowitz_TR2 you can drink 2-5 litres a day [22:12] schestowitz_TR2 good in winter/autumn [22:12] orgg 2-5 litres a day of what? [22:13] TR News "For a while it didn't seem like getting working GPU drivers for the M1 mac on Linux was going to be possible but that's finally changed because we can now finally render a shaded triangle and much more" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=qy3Si1-oYrw [22:13] TR Bot Fully Open Source M1 GPU Drivers Finally Work!! - Invidious [22:13] schestowitz_TR2 OneBTS: tea [22:13] psydruid > [notice] SUSECON 2022 - Reflecting on and Recognizing our Strategic Silicon Designers and Providers | SUSE Communities [22:13] psydruid And that's why Germany needs more Intel factories for making wasteful Intel chips that lead to strategic harm to the environment [22:13] schestowitz_TR2 orgg: ^ [22:13] schestowitz_TR2 coffee only if very diluted at that [22:13] orgg 5 liters of tea you got kidney stones? [22:14] orgg you could make icedtea [22:14] schestowitz_TR2 you can drink that much water [22:14] orgg but its no just water [22:15] orgg and tea and coffe sre diuretic [22:15] TR News "Managing a Kubernetes cluster is a complex endeavor. As demands on a cluster grow, increasing the number of deployed pods can help ease the load on the system." https://ubuntu.com//blog/the-kubernetes-autoscaler-charm [22:15] TR Bot Kubernetes Autoscaler Charm | Ubuntu [22:16] TR News Gemini is aging nicely; today we publish a short video to demonstrate how Gemini can be used to do all sorts of things on a daily basis http://techrights.org/2022/06/07/geminispace-gemroll/ [22:16] TR Bot Daily Gemroll (Like Blogroll But for Gemini and Sometimes Gopher or Spartan) | Techrights [22:20] DaemonFC I usually drink about a gallon and a half of water per day not counting my coffee. [22:20] orgg you cant comment on gemini [22:20] DaemonFC The dental clinic students mentioned that I salivate a lot more than most of their patients. [22:20] schestowitz_TR2 https://www.mancity.com/citytv/mens/best-of-joao-cancelo-2021-22-season-63790201 [22:20] TR Bot The best of Joao Cancelo [22:20] schestowitz_TR2 (ot) [22:20] schestowitz_TR2 they seem to use DRM :/ [22:21] DaemonFC Most people are dehydrated. [22:21] DaemonFC Having disgusting tap water discourages them from drinking enough water, or worse, they start drinking soda to mask the taste. [22:22] orgg most people are nervous at the dentist [22:22] DaemonFC All soda does is take water and carbonate it and dump a bunch of sugar and caffeine and chemicals in it. [22:22] DaemonFC It's really bad for you. [22:22] orgg hence the drided mouth [22:22] DaemonFC Sparkling water isn't so bad. [22:23] DaemonFC But when they start dumping a ton of sugar and caffeine in, it gets pretty bad. [22:23] DaemonFC The soda companies know that people have had enough of their shitty products, so they're panicking and coming up with new shitty products. [22:23] DaemonFC They rip out public drinking fountains and offer you a $3 bottle of water. [22:24] DaemonFC Water fountains have turned into public phone booths vs. cell phone bills. [22:24] DaemonFC They work it from both ends. [22:24] DaemonFC They love COVID because now anyone who wasn't already grossed out by water fountains doesn't want to use them. [22:25] DaemonFC My favorite thing about COVID is that people on Grindr are all advertising they're vaccinated from COVID on a hookup app during a surge in HIV and Syphilis and the clap. [22:25] DaemonFC "Oh, you know the Clap App? Yeah... Fully vaccinated from the super-cold." [22:25] DaemonFC "Oh cool!" [22:26] DaemonFC They were acting like COVID was Captain Tripps from The Stand and then almost everyone that gets it has the sniffles if that. [22:26] DaemonFC And like 90% of the people that died were over 80 and had something else going on too. [22:26] DaemonFC And they put it down as COVID no matter what actually killed them to get money from the government for it. [22:27] DaemonFC Meanwhile, the people who took the shots are saying they have memory loss and high bloos pressure when they've never had it, chest pains. [22:27] DaemonFC It's fitting that Bill Gates was pitching the shots, got three of them he said, and then had COVID anyway. [22:28] DaemonFC The shots are like some broken Windows update and then the CDC has the Telemetry App. [22:29] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [22:29] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [22:32] orgg covid was invented by people against smoking [22:33] orgg 1st they made smoker go out into the cold to smoke and get worst forms of colds [22:34] orgg that how covid began [22:34] orgg anf they said that the e ciggarets was killing people [22:35] orgg just before they found people are having covid!!! [22:35] orgg but nah the culprit was ecigs [22:35] orgg ecigs adultrated with drugs and shit [22:37] orgg https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/basic_information/e-cigarettes/severe-lung-disease.html [22:37] TR Bot Outbreak of Lung Injury Associated with the Use of E-Cigarette, or Vaping, Products | Electronic Cigarettes | Smoking & Tobacco Use | CDC [22:38] orgg Updated February 25, 2020 [22:38] orgg nice coverup [22:40] orgg or actually incompetence [22:41] DaemonFC That's actually not a bad idea. Use junk mail and ad papers for tp. [22:42] DaemonFC "So much for the three seashells." [22:42] DaemonFC MinceR, ^ [22:42] MinceR :> [22:43] orgg what are you talking about? [22:44] MinceR Demolition Man [22:45] TR News 2022 Talk by Richard Stallman About Free Software and Online Dis-Services | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/07/jeffrey-peterson-and-rms/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/07/jeffrey-peterson-and-rms/ [22:45] TR Bot 2022 Talk by Richard Stallman About Free Software and Online Dis-Services | Techrights [22:46] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/1710112 [22:46] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/g1hoxpjn12qz.jpg created on 2017-10-11 03:15:42.498074 [22:47] schestowitz_TR2 It's fitting that Bill Gates was pitching the shots, got three of them he said, and then had COVID anyway. [22:47] schestowitz_TR2 AND was symptomatic [22:47] schestowitz_TR2 imagine getting the flu shot [22:47] schestowitz_TR2 then getting the flu [22:47] schestowitz_TR2 and saying, yes [22:47] schestowitz_TR2 I guot the flu [22:47] schestowitz_TR2 but it didn't get me hospitalised [22:48] orgg so he coulf spread it some more [22:49] orgg and sell more vaccines [22:49] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165740 [22:49] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [22:49] MinceR lol [22:49] orgg covid is over suck it up [22:50] orgg the new thing is the war [22:50] schestowitz_TR2 all OVER the place [22:50] schestowitz_TR2 yes, [22:50] schestowitz_TR2 all OVER [22:50] MinceR i thought monkeypox was the new thing? [22:50] schestowitz_TR2 the war on it is over [22:50] schestowitz_TR2 we take the health impacts for granted now [22:50] orgg the world war [22:51] orgg its just starting [22:51] schestowitz_TR2 https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/06/covid19-death-figures-17-days-behind/ [22:51] TR Bot Blog Archive UK COVID-19 Status: Weve Almost Stopped Testing, Death Figures Are 17 Days Behind [22:52] orgg suck it up [22:52] schestowitz_TR2 you can catapult billG over the Ukranian border [22:52] orgg the war is coming [22:52] schestowitz_TR2 like a boulder [22:52] schestowitz_TR2 *Ukrainian border [22:52] orgg so forget about covid [22:53] schestowitz_TR2 that ol' fart will challenge russians without a gas mask [22:53] schestowitz_TR2 make sure he testes positive first [22:53] schestowitz_TR2 tests [22:53] schestowitz_TR2 first they blame "nature" [22:53] schestowitz_TR2 now they blame "Putin" [22:53] schestowitz_TR2 some blamed "China" [22:54] schestowitz_TR2 it's always nothing to do with our system [22:54] schestowitz_TR2 "the system is FINE" [22:54] schestowitz_TR2 "it's just that..." [22:54] schestowitz_TR2 millions still being laid off [22:54] schestowitz_TR2 and the media tells us millions are RESIGNING [22:54] schestowitz_TR2 and there is "talent shortage" [22:54] schestowitz_TR2 after laying off millions [22:54] orgg they can join the army [22:54] schestowitz_TR2 just hire them [22:55] schestowitz_TR2 but no.. [22:55] schestowitz_TR2 they're "Expensive" [22:55] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [22:55] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [22:56] orgg nothing a well placed nuke cant cure [22:56] TR News Hmmm... better install the fork/s https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Q-HGim1LCkw [22:56] TR Bot How to install Audacity on Debian 11 - Invidious [22:56] orgg havent you noticed the world is lacking a war [22:56] orgg is part of the humans life cycle [22:57] orgg so to speak [22:57] schestowitz_TR2 there are some wars [22:57] schestowitz_TR2 but they don't sell enough [22:57] orgg or else they will reproduce and make the world inhabitable [22:57] schestowitz_TR2 the arsenals are lacking capacity [22:57] schestowitz_TR2 need to "unload" [22:57] schestowitz_TR2 get rid of the "old models" [22:57] orgg thats natures balance [22:58] schestowitz_TR2 ok, but make one happen in the US [22:58] schestowitz_TR2 they always fight on other people's soil [22:58] schestowitz_TR2 at (mostly) expense to the locals [22:58] schestowitz_TR2 the canon fodder and civilians [22:58] schestowitz_TR2 *cannon [22:58] schestowitz_TR2 do it like chess [22:58] orgg other species have lack of food or predators puying them in balace [22:58] schestowitz_TR2 "dead vlad, I herd you had a conflict in ukraine" [22:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 29.55 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.50 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [22:59] schestowitz_TR2 "come to alaska, let's duel there" [22:59] orgg humans only balancing thing is other humans [22:59] schestowitz_TR2 "so we can bomb your bombs" [22:59] orgg sorry about that its just the way it is [22:59] schestowitz_TR2 instead of this proxy war/s in east europe ● Jun 07 [23:00] schestowitz_TR2 humans find ways to make mrore foods [23:00] schestowitz_TR2 like fertilisers [23:00] schestowitz_TR2 made of the same processes and sometimes materials as bombs [23:00] orgg fertilisers make good bombs [23:00] schestowitz_TR2 instead of bombing other nations they could make more crops [23:01] schestowitz_TR2 alternative (humane): make more condoms [23:01] schestowitz_TR2 make abortion easier to access [23:02] schestowitz_TR2 tyhey could make slogans [23:02] schestowitz_TR2 the church would hate that [23:02] schestowitz_TR2 esp. catholics [23:02] schestowitz_TR2 "a condom a day makes a couple gap" (happy) [23:02] schestowitz_TR2 the pope will never 'gert' it [23:02] schestowitz_TR2 *get [23:02] schestowitz_TR2 *gay [23:02] schestowitz_TR2 "a condom a day makes a couple gay" [23:02] schestowitz_TR2 no children, more calm [23:02] schestowitz_TR2 only the vatican will protest [23:03] orgg LOL [23:03] orgg catholics cant even get married [23:04] orgg i mean prists [23:04] orgg unlike protestants [23:04] orgg font tell of them pro life demostrators are chatolics?! [23:04] schestowitz_TR2 they fidn kids to "unleash" [23:04] schestowitz_TR2 *find [23:04] schestowitz_TR2 maybe let them get married [23:05] orgg your full of shit [23:05] schestowitz_TR2 and they will leave the kids alone [23:05] orgg your full of shit [23:05] orgg are you a putin propagand machine? [23:05] schestowitz_TR2 those religions [23:05] schestowitz_TR2 not just that [23:05] orgg sure sounds like it [23:05] schestowitz_TR2 they create sex-deprived perverts [23:06] schestowitz_TR2 and attract them, too [23:06] schestowitz_TR2 it's not a new problem [23:06] schestowitz_TR2 it's just receiving more attention in recent decades [23:06] orgg how do you know so much about that? [23:06] TR News The System76/HP collaboration Dev One laptop, geared toward developers, is now available for pre-order. http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165551#comment-33910 [23:06] TR Bot You Can Now Pre-Order the HP Dev One Linux Laptop Powered by Pop!_OS Linux | Tux Machines [23:06] orgg must be from experience [23:06] schestowitz_TR2 not limited to catholics btw [23:07] schestowitz_TR2 no personal experience [23:07] orgg sure [23:07] orgg thats what they always say [23:07] schestowitz_TR2 many people did get abused though [23:07] schestowitz_TR2 family, clergy, others [23:08] schestowitz_TR2 afaik, some religions still refuse to ncondone bortion in cases of incest and rape [23:08] schestowitz_TR2 but anyway, this is off topic [23:08] schestowitz_TR2 and the bottom line is, contraception would have mitigatged the current mess [23:09] orgg contraception!=abortion [23:09] schestowitz_TR2 one is a fallback [23:10] orgg best contraceptive method is giving people careers [23:10] TR News Jeffrey Peterson spoke to RMS in English earlier this year. This talk was uploaded here. Start at around 25 minutes from the start to skip to the new material and skip past some cruft/replay/technical perils. http://techrights.org/2022/06/07/jeffrey-peterson-and-rms/ [23:10] TR Bot 2022 Talk by Richard Stallman About Free Software and Online Dis-Services | Techrights [23:10] orgg just focus on your job [23:10] orgg make the boss happy [23:10] schestowitz_TR2 this is an oversimplification [23:10] orgg and the rich he will have the kids you didnt [23:11] schestowitz_TR2 and "Career" is a nebulous term [23:11] schestowitz_TR2 the rich don't mind overpopulation [23:11] schestowitz_TR2 capitalism devalues workers and makes more consumers this way [23:11] schestowitz_TR2 it also let's more public debt, based on speculations, available [23:11] orgg they do because they will have to pay more taxes [23:12] orgg with computer and robots you dont need any cheap workers [23:12] schestowitz_TR2 they are already grossly undertaxed [23:12] schestowitz_TR2 and it gets worse over time [23:13] orgg you are living in the past [23:13] schestowitz_TR2 robots and computers are nothing new [23:14] orgg yes but back then they needed the workfoce for warfaring [23:14] schestowitz_TR2 so in some sense you too are "living in the past" [23:15] orgg capitalism is economic imperialism [23:15] schestowitz_TR2 not an apt analogy [23:16] orgg the underling implications havent chaged [23:16] schestowitz_TR2 capitalism is a system for distribution of labour and capital [23:16] schestowitz_TR2 imperialism is another thing [23:16] orgg its a self fulfilling circuit [23:16] schestowitz_TR2 it's territorial expansion to take over the assets or resources of people in anotrher system [23:16] schestowitz_TR2 imperialism is capitalism metastacising [23:17] orgg competition will lead to war [23:18] schestowitz_TR2 the "great reset" is not what people think :-) [23:18] schestowitz_TR2 it's when the "wrong" people get to the nukes [23:18] schestowitz_TR2 and use them like fireworks [23:18] schestowitz_TR2 to reset the system [23:18] orgg reset? [23:18] schestowitz_TR2 there are far too many nukes to keep "safe" [23:18] schestowitz_TR2 orgg: mass famine [23:18] orgg theres no coming back ftom that [23:18] schestowitz_TR2 will likely happen in 50-100 years [23:19] schestowitz_TR2 due to inaction [23:19] orgg thats no reset its more like game over [23:19] schestowitz_TR2 it's mass destruction [23:19] schestowitz_TR2 war at a higher level [23:19] schestowitz_TR2 when they bring out the more lethal toys [23:20] schestowitz_TR2 biden is now bringing putin to the brink [23:20] psydruid https://wccftech.com/ampere-ampereone-cpu-arm-architecture-launch-later-2022-ddr5-pcie-5-0-support-compares-intel-amd-x86-cpus-against-altra-family/?beta=1 [23:20] schestowitz_TR2 biden is like 80 [23:20] TR Bot Ampere's AmpereOne CPU With ARM Architecture To Launch Later This Year With DDR5 & PCIe 5.0 Support, Compares Intel & AMD x86 CPUs Against Altra Family [23:20] schestowitz_TR2 he doesn';t give a shit [23:20] orgg its the next great extinction [23:20] orgg also with global worming [23:20] schestowitz_TR2 latest: https://truthout.org/articles/putin-threatens-to-escalate-war-if-ukraine-receives-long-range-missiles/ [23:20] TR Bot Putin Threatens to Escalate War If Ukraine Receives Long-Range Missiles [23:20] orgg sorry climate change! [23:20] schestowitz_TR2 not sure if "MSM" cover it [23:20] schestowitz_TR2 or covers is >like this< [23:21] schestowitz_TR2 they must be too busy talking about Putin's testicles or something [23:21] schestowitz_TR2 to 'gamify' the war [23:21] orgg whats MSM? [23:21] schestowitz_TR2 corporate media [23:21] *psydruid is getting intrigued hearing the term global worming [23:21] schestowitz_TR2 aka "mainstream" [23:22] orgg MSN [23:22] schestowitz_TR2 https://www.thenation.com/article/world/american-empire-chalmers-blowback/ [23:22] TR Bot When Blowback Is More Relevant Than Ever | The Nation [23:22] orgg thats what i was thinking [23:23] DaemonFC That new vacuum is a lot better than the old one. [23:23] DaemonFC I even sucked all the cat fur out of the cat tree. [23:23] DaemonFC The roller doesn't tangle up on cat fur. (self-cleaning) [23:23] schestowitz_TR2 "Vanden Heuvel says U.S. corporate media is responsible for what she calls a one-sided debate on Ukraine, which is greenlighting unprecedented spending on weapons over the importance of negotiations." https://www.democracynow.org/2022/6/6/katrina_vanden_heuvel_kyiv_severodonetsk_ukraine [23:23] TR Bot Katrina vanden Heuvel on How U.S. Medias One-Sided Debate on Ukraine Fans the Flames of War | Democracy Now! [23:23] DaemonFC It actually gets the crap off my kitchen floor on bare floor mode instead of kicking it around. [23:24] schestowitz_TR2 https://truthout.org/video/corporate-media-is-leaving-pro-negotiation-voices-out-of-ukraine-russia-reports/ [23:24] TR Bot Corporate Media Are Leaving Pro-Negotiation Voices Out of Ukraine-Russia Reports [23:25] schestowitz_TR2 Russia does the same btw [23:25] schestowitz_TR2 treats pro-peace voicers like traitors [23:25] schestowitz_TR2 and even arrests a huge chuck of them to make an example [23:25] schestowitz_TR2 putin is 70 this coming october [23:26] schestowitz_TR2 so he and the other zombie do what the lobbyists tell them [23:26] schestowitz_TR2 "to dictators" (2018) [23:26] schestowitz_TR2 *two [23:26] schestowitz_TR2 "two seniles" (2022) [23:27] schestowitz_TR2 and covid-19 sandwiched there in between [23:27] orgg iran is weeks away from becoming a super power [23:28] schestowitz_TR2 https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-06-10/fox-news-host-calls-president-trump-a-dictator-apologizes [23:28] TR Bot - Are you a robot? [23:28] schestowitz_TR2 https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/jun/10/a-fox-news-host-has-accidentally-referred-to-the-highly-anticipated-summit-between-president-donald-trump-and-north-korean-leader-kim-jong-un-as-a-meeting-of-two-dictators [23:28] TR Bot 'Two dictators': Fox News host says sorry for reference to Trump-Kim summit | Fox News | The Guardian [23:28] schestowitz_TR2 "sorry" [23:28] schestowitz_TR2 forced apologies [23:28] schestowitz_TR2 ask Linux Torvalds [23:28] schestowitz_TR2 *Linus [23:28] schestowitz_TR2 https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/fox-news-host-calls-president-trump-a-dictator-apologizes/ [23:29] schestowitz_TR2 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/06/11/we-all-have-slip-ups-fox-news-host-apologizes-for-calling-trump-and-kim-two-dictators/ [23:29] schestowitz_TR2 https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/11/twodictators-lights-up-twitter-after-fox-news-host-accidentally-uses-term-for-trump-and-kim.html [23:29] schestowitz_TR2 these malware sites will crash the bot [23:30] orgg isn't it strange they haven't found any "intelligent" life in the universe? [23:30] *matey (~matey@zbyq5zpgk4h7a.irc) has joined #techrights [23:30] TR News Best Jar file opener apps https://www.theserverside.com/blog/Coffee-Talk-Java-News-Stories-and-Opinions/Top-5-best-JAR-file-openers Source: theserverside [23:30] schestowitz_TR2 the search con tinues [23:30] orgg probally they already nuke them selfs into dust [23:30] schestowitz_TR2 install SETI@HOME [23:30] schestowitz_TR2 becfore fakecoins were a thing [23:30] *matey has quit (connection closed) [23:31] *TechrightsBot-tr has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:31] orgg or change the enviroment behond repair [23:31] schestowitz_TR2 people wasted cpu cycles running algos that look for patterns in stochastic crap [23:31] *matey (~matey@zbyq5zpgk4h7a.irc) has joined #techrights [23:31] schestowitz_TR2 of course they never found anything trillion upon treillionf of cpu cycles later [23:31] *TechrightsBot-tr (~TR@ju4kayhrhsm6a.irc) has joined #techrights [23:31] TechrightsBot-tr Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 [23:31] matey considering the size of the universe [23:32] orgg thats was some sort of NSA spyware [23:32] matey and the speed of light, its not really that surprising [23:32] orgg to find nutcases [23:32] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [23:32] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [23:32] matey its sort of like covering every square inch of a remote island, finding no one on it [23:32] schestowitz_TR2 the universe doesn't care about us or about this whole planet [23:32] matey and assuming your country must therefore be the only one with people [23:32] schestowitz_TR2 it scratches its arse and moves on [23:32] schestowitz_TR2 more action is happening in the Sun [23:32] matey the universe doesn't care about us or about this whole plane <- i think youre projecting [23:32] schestowitz_TR2 it's also a lot bigger [23:33] matey whether the universe cares is irrelevant [23:33] schestowitz_TR2 putin and biden get theior ladder [23:33] schestowitz_TR2 they climb to the next planet [23:33] schestowitz_TR2 or space elevator [23:33] orgg shouldn't be hard to fins a planet like ours with so much radio chater going on [23:33] matey the probability that only one planet has life is so ridiculous, its hard to imagine how anyone could even think we are alone [23:34] schestowitz_TR2 the trumpo and biden regime let musk grift off taxpayers [23:34] schestowitz_TR2 for lunatic "space" millions [23:34] matey our planet is so special, we are the only ones! [23:34] schestowitz_TR2 fulfilling rich poeople's fantasies [23:34] orgg there can be life [23:34] matey but if seti cant find intelligent life [23:34] orgg but not like ours [23:34] matey it seems just as unlikely that a manned space mission would [23:34] matey unless we can somehow fix the ftl thing [23:35] schestowitz_TR2 even if we found life elsewhere, we cannot travel that far [23:35] matey then maybe seti would have more luck [23:35] matey even if we found life elsewhere, we cannot travel that far <- no but [23:35] schestowitz_TR2 and we nprobably don't want THEM to come HERE [23:35] matey INTERSTELLAR TWITTER [23:35] schestowitz_TR2 I would not be the first to say that [23:35] matey maybe elon already found life :) [23:35] orgg plantes with carbon based life forms have a short winfow in time to be founf before the obliterate them selfs [23:35] matey and just wants to own a platform to talk to them on [23:35] matey and monitor and censor them and keep them from criticising bill gates [23:35] matey of course [23:36] schestowitz_TR2 matey: he also found wife... several times [23:36] matey mozilla will want to pretend to give them privacy [23:36] matey the fsf can ask them for money even though they dont do anything [23:36] schestowitz_TR2 fedora will issue panda NFTs to them [23:36] schestowitz_TR2 to thank them for the slave assignment [23:36] matey ibm can ask them to crowdfund their defence contracting [23:37] matey this isnt about humanity and its search for a bigger world [23:37] matey its about finding more customers, obviously [23:37] schestowitz_TR2 some nuclear wqeapons facilities probably STILL use IBM's floppy disks [23:37] matey more dumb fucks for zuck [23:37] schestowitz_TR2 replacing them is work in progress [23:37] schestowitz_TR2 IOBM: do it SLOWLY [23:37] schestowitz_TR2 "we want to keep this client!" [23:37] matey thats what she said [23:38] matey (or he said) [23:38] schestowitz_TR2 too late [23:38] matey nah [23:38] schestowitz_TR2 mr. "emacs virggin" [23:38] matey its still the office [23:38] matey all virgins are women [23:38] matey this a fact most people dont know [23:38] schestowitz_TR2 men have no hymen [23:39] schestowitz_TR2 but every hymen has men in it [23:39] matey hymens dont determine virginity, sex does [23:39] matey now, theres are crazy people who check hymens [23:39] schestowitz_TR2 in indonesia [23:39] matey but thats pretty dumb, when even virgins can injure one without having sex [23:39] schestowitz_TR2 you can get killed for having the wrong membrane [23:39] matey yeah, they should be LESS religious in indonesia [23:39] schestowitz_TR2 either by your own family, future partner, or the state [23:39] DaemonFC Okay, I like this "Amazon Basics" 20" fan. [23:40] matey either by your own family, future partner, or the state <- or all three in some big orgy [23:40] DaemonFC Costs more than the Lasko down at the Walmart, but it's a lot quieter and moves more air. [23:40] matey i mean everyone gets fucked by the government [23:40] DaemonFC I mainly buy cheap Laskos to run as air purifiers. [23:40] matey or all three in some big orgy <- libreplanet.org/ [23:40] DaemonFC So they're always just on lower settings anyway to pull air through the filters. [23:40] matey /me two thumbs up [23:40] matey (not like that) [23:41] TR News Using SSH tunneling for good and evil https://www.techtarget.com/searchsecurity/feature/Using-SSH-tunneling-for-good-and-evil Source: techtarget [23:41] TR Bot Using SSH tunneling for good and evil [23:41] DaemonFC They can do their work over time and as long as they change over the room air often enough, the filters get all nice and black and full of cat hair. [23:41] orgg you also gona need to relese oxigen wi9th your purifier [23:41] DaemonFC We're having really really bad smog today. [23:41] orgg cause its going down [23:41] matey please do not tweet eggplant emojis at libreplanet [23:41] schestowitz_TR2 not sure if working was intentional, but they have the controversial "twoi finger test" [23:41] orgg were? [23:41] DaemonFC Those furnace filter air purifiers can remove most of the small particles. [23:41] matey tweeting from a script is fine [23:41] schestowitz_TR2 iirc, the indonesian army does or did that to women [23:42] matey scripting eggplants is not [23:42] matey theres a nuance [23:42] schestowitz_TR2 as if fitness for the army depends on some membrane [23:42] matey iirc, the indonesian army does or did that to women <- that sounds like progress [23:42] matey of a somewhat backwards variety but like [23:42] matey they let virgin women into the military? [23:42] matey i didnt know they let ANY women in the military [23:43] matey these poor excuses for keeping a group out dont tend to last [23:43] schestowitz_TR2 look it up [23:43] matey "dont ask dont tell" etc [23:43] matey look it up <- im not that sceptical of this one [23:43] matey i wasnt aware of it though [23:43] matey so from here it sounds like progress [23:43] schestowitz_TR2 the indonesian army has many non-combat role [23:44] matey ofc [23:44] schestowitz_TR2 like harassing the people in timor [23:44] schestowitz_TR2 and spying on them [23:44] matey very important work [23:44] schestowitz_TR2 keeping some of them in cages [23:44] schestowitz_TR2 us has female drone operators now [23:44] schestowitz_TR2 and proud of it [23:44] schestowitz_TR2 women too can bomb women [23:44] matey very progressive! [23:44] schestowitz_TR2 and little girls [23:44] schestowitz_TR2 that's very progressive [23:44] matey and boys who... well who cares, theyd only grow up to being men [23:46] TR News Twitter is dying, fast. There's a Carl Icahn with hairplugs now. His name is Ilon. [sic] https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/06/twitter_musk_bots/ [23:46] TR Bot Elon Musk threatens to terminate $46.5bn Twitter deal The Register [23:46] schestowitz_TR2 matey: the army has a slogan [23:46] DaemonFC I might just hold the cat down and vacuum her out. [23:46] matey i figure they have a few [23:46] schestowitz_TR2 you must be this tall and have hymen to kill men [23:46] DaemonFC It'd be faster. [23:46] matey thats a very awkward slogan, it could use some punching up a bit [23:46] schestowitz_TR2 that';s be a "halal" assassination [23:47] schestowitz_TR2 *that'd [23:47] matey or being the military they might shoot it, but presumably they want to take it alive [23:47] matey that';s be a "halal" assassination <- im gonna go out on a limb here and assume "halal" doesnt require that [23:47] DaemonFC No, you have to say a prayer first. [23:47] matey but i figure youre joking anyway [23:48] schestowitz_TR2 you could go out ona lamb and still be halal [23:48] matey ill give you that one [23:48] schestowitz_TR2 you could cook a journalist [23:48] matey but not eat him [23:48] schestowitz_TR2 but torture him first [23:48] DaemonFC I was reading an article about how skittish Muslims and Jews are about plant "pork". [23:49] DaemonFC It's just fake shit with spices on it. [23:49] DaemonFC I mean, what's the hangup? [23:49] matey /me has met some nice indonesians [23:49] schestowitz_TR2 they will ask some imams and rabbis [23:49] DaemonFC They always get the texture and taste way wrong anyway. [23:49] matey i dont THINK they tortured anybody [23:49] schestowitz_TR2 with big beards and egos [23:49] schestowitz_TR2 matey: they totured him first [23:49] schestowitz_TR2 and it's them who expoert radical islam to indonesia [23:49] DaemonFC schestowitz_TR2, I was reading complaints about Amazon Basics. [23:50] matey understood, but... [23:50] DaemonFC Apparently, Amazon figures out what people are buying, clones it, and undercuts you like 30-40%. [23:50] DaemonFC Then all your customers go straight to them because it's the same thing anyway. [23:50] matey im hardly defending the military here [23:51] matey im pretty sure if you wrote a report on the actions of the indonesian military over the past 10 or 20 years [23:51] matey i wouldnt approve of most of it [23:51] matey i rarely do approve of most of the things a military does [23:52] matey for one thing, even the best of them keep getting sent out to do things that are broadly criminal and/or make no sense at all [23:52] matey if not for that maybe i would feel differently [23:52] DaemonFC The lasko box fan loudness can be dampened by building a cube of furnace filters on the back. [23:53] DaemonFC Which is how you build the air purifier anyway. [23:53] DaemonFC Then the sound mostly goes into the filters and gets muffled out anyway. [23:53] schestowitz < We are more focused on talking about economic cooperation" (it's ALMOST about MONEY) https://en.tempo.co/read/1598946/jokowi-outlines-5-points-of-bilateral-meeting-with-australian-pm [23:53] TR Bot Outlines 5 Points of Bilateral Meeting with Australian PM - News en.tempo.co [23:53] DaemonFC But to run in a room where you just need a quiet fan? No. [23:53] matey ALMOST? [23:53] schestowitz_TR2 ALWAYAS [23:53] schestowitz_TR2 slip [23:53] matey either way [23:54] schestowitz_TR2 indonesia is a big weapons client [23:54] matey lots of killin to do [23:54] matey busy busy [23:54] schestowitz_TR2 they are a massive population [23:54] schestowitz_TR2 and they don't make good weapons [23:54] matey you know what they say, idle hands are the devils workshop [23:54] DaemonFC schestowitz_TR2, So essentially sellers that are gouging the consumer are mad that Amazon comes along, removes the supply chain inefficiencies, and sells products of the same quality. [23:54] schestowitz_TR2 [16:41] Nigeria https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/06/06/why-is-the-us-selling-weapons-to-nigeria-after-it-bombed-civilians/ | Source: Counter Punch [23:54] TR Bot is the US Selling Weapons to Nigeria After It Bombed Civilians? - CounterPunch.org [23:54] schestowitz_TR2 many oeprators [23:54] DaemonFC And that's how Capitalism _should_ work. [23:54] schestowitz_TR2 but no equipment [23:54] matey then again, im pretty sure they didnt mean killing so many people would be a better idea [23:55] DaemonFC Because you can pass most of the cost savings to the consumer and make up for it in volume. [23:55] DaemonFC That's how Walmart _used_ to operate. [23:55] matey and they don't make good weapons <- hmm [23:55] schestowitz_TR2 indonesia does not make planes for example [23:55] schestowitz_TR2 but it bought many planes [23:56] schestowitz_TR2 and then used them to bomb nations to bits [23:56] DaemonFC https://urbansurvivalsite.com/ways-to-wipe-your-butt-when-the-toilet-paper-is-gone/ [23:56] TR Bot 15 Ways to Wipe Your Butt When the Toilet Paper is Gone [23:56] DaemonFC "Some people have suggested using books, but I have too much respect for books to recommend that." [23:56] matey the military likes doing that to countries [23:56] *darwin has quit (connection closed) [23:56] DaemonFC Maybe some cheap-o conservative books that didn't sell and ended up at the Dollar Tree and have a bunch of pages. [23:56] schestowitz_TR2 https://yewtu.be/watch?v=c0CWPVWA6bw [23:56] TR Bot Death of a Nation: The East Timor Conspiracy (John Pilger) - Invidious [23:56] matey it gets restless if it doesnt get to kill people [23:56] schestowitz_TR2 https://yewtu.be/watch?v=qtS49e9luew [23:56] TR Bot British arms sales to the Indonesian dictatorship - Invidious [23:56] schestowitz_TR2 https://yewtu.be/watch?v=L2X-uz1rCBc [23:56] TR Bot Globalization Killed 1 Millions Indonesian in 1965 - Invidious [23:57] schestowitz_TR2 https://yewtu.be/watch?v=lFBRIx-nCTM [23:57] TR Bot Globalization the bloody beginnings history. Indonesia takeover by Western Capitalism. John Pilger. - Invidious [23:57] schestowitz_TR2 https://yewtu.be/watch?v=tMs_qxHnnzc [23:57] TR Bot John Pilger - Kasus Pembantaian 1965 yang Dilupakan Pemerintah Indonesia - Invidious [23:57] schestowitz_TR2 https://yewtu.be/watch?v=rNXL1a3y_1c [23:57] TR Bot John Pilger Exposes Indonesian Sweat Shops Backed By The IMF (20th Anniversary) | Our History - Invidious [23:57] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [23:58] DaemonFC They have a bunch of books at Goodwill that are just utter garbage but only cost 25 cents. [23:58] schestowitz_TR2 https://yewtu.be/watch?v=pfrL2DUtmXY [23:58] TR Bot John Pilger - The New rulers of The World - Invidious [23:58] DaemonFC Tearing out pages and wiping with them is cheaper than toilet paper. [23:58] DaemonFC As long as you're not destroying a GOOD book, who cares? [23:59] schestowitz_TR2 1$ a day [23:59] schestowitz_TR2 salary [23:59] schestowitz_TR2 kids too [23:59] schestowitz_TR2 "made in indonesia" [23:59] matey sure, i mean their parents are off fighting and killing