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DaemonFC[m]I almost listed Mandy's mom and dad in reverse order. Aug 07 00:00
DaemonFC[m]One wrong check box can screw up your case and you don't want that.Aug 07 00:00
DaemonFC[m]So, I check a box, save the file.Aug 07 00:00
DaemonFC[m]Fill out a line. Save the file.Aug 07 00:00
DaemonFC[m]Check a box, save.Aug 07 00:00
DaemonFC[m]So on.Aug 07 00:00
DaemonFC[m]Doing it like that significantly reduces the number of opportunities for an error to creep in.Aug 07 00:01
DaemonFC[m]Also, give USCIS more evidence than they say they'll want. If it says "You don't need to put an I-94 in the packet if this is a (c) (9) renewal for EAD." print it out anyway and include it.Aug 07 00:02
DaemonFC[m]It's 10 cents to print the page and throw it in and you could end up reading an old policy or end up with some guy who makes their own.Aug 07 00:02
DaemonFC[m]It's a cheap sanity check and another way some Little Hitler can toss you a Request for Evidence.Aug 07 00:03
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I might be a little distant lately. Our immigration lawyer dumped us because of the in-laws ranting and screaming.Aug 07 00:04
DaemonFC[m]So I'm learning immigration law as I go.Aug 07 00:04
DaemonFC[m]I think I know enough to keep us on autopilot until we get in there and I can file some forms at the interview to fix the damage she did.Aug 07 00:05
DaemonFC[m]After they grant him a green card, we have two years and then I'll pay another attorney to file for removal of conditions.Aug 07 00:06
DaemonFC[m]My job until then is to just make it impossible for them to get rid of us until whenever they bring us in for an interview. Aug 07 00:06
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: PCLinuxOS: Interview, systemd, Meemaw and Screenshot Showcase http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/140707 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f4d8c480-4450-4685-a80b-9b9c4f5cdd9e]Aug 07 00:07
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Interesting that the police were so interested in SSID.Aug 07 00:07
DaemonFC[m]That might be enough of a reason to turn off SSID broadcast. If you know what it is, it's not going to hurt you..Aug 07 00:08
MinceRunfortunately, if you hide the SSID on the AP side, the client is going to broadcast it instead, isn't it?Aug 07 00:08
DaemonFC[m]2002 Volkswagen Passat....EwwwAug 07 00:09
DaemonFC[m]I don't know which is worse. That he's a child pornographer or that he chose to drive that.Aug 07 00:10
DaemonFC[m]:)Aug 07 00:10
MinceR:>Aug 07 00:10
DaemonFC[m]"Clean" Diesel.Aug 07 00:10
DaemonFC[m]We tell the EPA that it's 15 times cleaner than it really is and that will just keep working and turn out fabulous. Aug 07 00:10
DaemonFC[m]Nobody will ever do a tailpipe emissions test even though there are millions of these things on the road and all kinds of governments with their own standards.Aug 07 00:11
DaemonFC[m]They'll just plug in and believe the software forever.Aug 07 00:11
DaemonFC[m]Sig P232Aug 07 00:13
DaemonFC[m]Well, at least he knows what to use for conceal and carry.Aug 07 00:13
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Set up Collabora Online on the Nextcloud Ubuntu Appliance http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/140699#comment-26056 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7f73c609-5620-4442-b21b-567944a04fc3]Aug 07 00:15
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: I'm going to apply for my FOID card again and then I'm going to pay for the Conceal and Carry training and get a CCW.Aug 07 00:17
DaemonFC[m]Things are getting real real bad here, and I can't imagine they'll get better if everyone's landlord throws them out of the house at once.Aug 07 00:17
MinceRgood ideaAug 07 00:17
DaemonFC[m]The Desert Eagle is a really good gun, but it's also huge.Aug 07 00:18
DaemonFC[m]It's basically impossible to conceal.Aug 07 00:18
DaemonFC[m]If Illinois was an open carry state, that wouldn't be a big deal.Aug 07 00:18
DaemonFC[m]Maybe you want people to know "Well, he shoots me once with that and it's over.".Aug 07 00:19
DaemonFC[m]The P232 in .380 ACP.....plan on several shots in a row, but it'll work.Aug 07 00:20
DaemonFC[m]"Detective Moriarty and I." LOLAug 07 00:21
DaemonFC[m]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professor_MoriartyAug 07 00:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Professor Moriarty - WikipediaAug 07 00:21
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Looks good.Aug 07 00:23
DaemonFC[m]Illegal firearm over that is almost a joke.Aug 07 00:23
DaemonFC[m]Then again, so is the Democratic Party.Aug 07 00:23
MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu2ug--bFPIAug 07 00:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Kelly's Heroes Oddball Negative Waves - YouTubeAug 07 00:23
DaemonFC[m]There isn't a state they control that isn't trampling the second amendment, overloaded with crime, and with a budget disaster.Aug 07 00:24
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: At least the Coronavirus Economy has forced Indiana to quit gloating about their rainy day fund.Aug 07 00:24
DaemonFC[m]ALL GONE! ALL GONE!Aug 07 00:24
MinceRaaaaaaaand it's gone.Aug 07 00:25
DaemonFC[m]Maybe next they'll end up so broke they have to get rid of bloated police budgets, mass imprisonment, and will have to consider taxing weed.Aug 07 00:25
schestowitz[00:10] <DaemonFC[m]> I don't know which is worse. That he's a child pornographer or that he chose to drive that.Aug 07 00:25
schestowitzBill does not pay a good salaryAug 07 00:26
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, well, why would you drive a VolksWagen in the first place if you're concerned about ever having any money.Aug 07 00:26
schestowitz[00:23] <DaemonFC[m]> schestowitz: Looks good.Aug 07 00:26
schestowitzThanlsAug 07 00:26
schestowitz*thanlsAug 07 00:26
schestowitz>thanksAug 07 00:26
DaemonFC[m]Mom drove one and the engine caught fire and stranded her in Illinois when it had only 60,000 miles on it.Aug 07 00:26
DaemonFC[m]Most 1980s cars could make it 500,000-600,000 miles if they were properly maintained. Aug 07 00:27
DaemonFC[m]They didn't get terrific gas mileage, but the designs were simpler and easier to repair. Aug 07 00:27
DaemonFC[m]The parts were made better.Aug 07 00:27
DaemonFC[m]Someone should tell these tree huggers that their "modern cars" that last 1/3rd as long as they did decades ago are, on the whole, every bit as bad for the environment.Aug 07 00:29
DaemonFC[m]Inform them about energy consumption, pollution, and CO2 emissions to build a new vehicle that gets better gas mileage vs the CO2 emissions savings of the better gas mileage. Aug 07 00:29
DaemonFC[m]If you replace a car every 7 or 8 years because it's shot, and you used to only do it after about 20-25....Aug 07 00:30
DaemonFC[m]They will end up making and selling you three cars, and you'll also pay twice as much for each one because of inflation and all this lousy government-mandated technology. Aug 07 00:30
DaemonFC[m]Some of it is an okay idea, don't get me wrong, but making things reliable is generally better than making them more "fuel efficient". Nobody wants to hear that their fancy new car is not going to last long, is worse for the environment than my Impala has been, and that it runs on a conflict mineral mined by slaves.Aug 07 00:32
DaemonFC[m]They bought it so they could feel smug and make the neighbors want one.Aug 07 00:32
DaemonFC[m]Why does any rich asshole do anything they do?Aug 07 00:32
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today’s howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/140708 [https://pleroma.site/objects/227dd7d4-9ffd-4bbb-b91b-4777ffcff566]Aug 07 00:33
DaemonFC[m]There's actually a lot of ways to solve the fuel efficiency problem. You're just going to have to accept that the car is for transportation and not drag racing. Aug 07 00:33
DaemonFC[m]Even the naturally aspirated 4 cylinder engines, some of them are pretty not bad. The 2.2 liter I4 in the Ford Focus that I picked out for John produces 165 base horsepower and 155 foot pounds of torque. That's plenty. That's better than my Vulcan V6 in the 1995 Taurus managed.Aug 07 00:34
DaemonFC[m]You don't need to stick a Turbo in it. That's for retards who want to destroy their car faster.Aug 07 00:35
DaemonFC[m]I value reliability over most other things. Aug 07 00:36
DaemonFC[m]That's why when I had to live with Windows 98 I cut it down as much as possible. Less than 1/5th its original size.Aug 07 00:37
DaemonFC[m]It still did everything it needed to do, just better and with less frequent crashing.Aug 07 00:37
DaemonFC[m]Almost every version of Windows has been the Windows 10 of its era. Aug 07 00:37
DaemonFC[m]Not that there's been this much spying, but that it's been about 5-10 times the size of what an OS with those features should be.Aug 07 00:38
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: You Can Now Integrate Collabora Online into the Nextcloud Ubuntu Appliance http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/140699#comment-26058 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f7a0dd1e-d5fc-46a4-b5e9-dc994fee5523]Aug 07 00:38
DaemonFC[m]With bloat comes bugs, with bugs come unreliability.Aug 07 00:38
DaemonFC[m]When people cut down the size of their program, there's less code for bugs to be hiding out in. When it gets bigger, sprawl happens.Aug 07 00:39
DaemonFC[m]The trend has unfortunately been bigger programs all around.Aug 07 00:40
DaemonFC[m]To the extent that sometimes if there is a desktop application that performs a web related task, it's not even worth running.Aug 07 00:40
DaemonFC[m]I haven't looked to see how purple-facebook works and I don't imagine I want to know either.Aug 07 00:41
DaemonFC[m]I deleted my Facebook account, but when I had it I noticed that using Pidgin for Facebook consumed less resources than leaving a pinned tab open just to see if there were new messages.Aug 07 00:42
schestowitzhmmm.. germany over 1000 new cases againAug 07 00:42
schestowitzassuming long-term harms they study in Germany...Aug 07 00:50
schestowitzcardiacAug 07 00:50
schestowitzhttps://newyork.citybizlist.com/article/622635/why-macys-stock-fell-12-in-julyAug 07 00:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-newyork.citybizlist.com | citybizlist : New York : Why Macy’s Stock Fell 12% in JulyAug 07 00:54
schestowitzwhy not EARLIER?Aug 07 00:54
schestowitzhttps://www.dissentmagazine.org/article/the-disease-map-of-rural-america#respondAug 07 00:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dissentmagazine.org | The Disease Map of Rural America | Dissent MagazineAug 07 00:58
oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: bloat and bugs is not 100 percent aligned.   https://scan.coverity.com/projects/libreoffice  With work to removed bugs quite a large program can have a low bug count.   Libreoffice here has 0.00 bugs detected per 1000 lines of code where the average for open source project with more than 1 million lines of code is 0.65 Aug 07 00:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-scan.coverity.com | Coverity Scan - Static AnalysisAug 07 00:59
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Did you miss what I said about Macys the other day.Aug 07 01:00
DaemonFC[m]They gave their executives $9 million and now they're going to bankruptcy court pleading poverty and calling their pensioners "creditors".Aug 07 01:01
DaemonFC[m]They cut 4,000 US jobs by not calling people back that they didn't want anymore, even if the store remained open. Most were older employees and those with higher wages.Aug 07 01:01
DaemonFC[m]Scum.Aug 07 01:02
schestowitzno, I saw what you saidAug 07 01:04
schestowitzthis is why I dropped the link hereAug 07 01:04
schestowitzit came up in one of the linuxy rss feedsAug 07 01:04
schestowitznot sure whyAug 07 01:04
DaemonFC[m]I can't believe that Penney's will even re-emerge at all.Aug 07 01:06
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oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: lot of executives live a life style where they burn though money.Aug 07 01:06
DaemonFC[m]There's no "plan" that can make them profitable again. Shutting down another 180-some stores won't.Aug 07 01:06
DaemonFC[m]KMart shut down stores and they went from over 5,700 stores in the US to 43.Aug 07 01:06
DaemonFC[m]Some company actually bought them out of the bankruptcy and started closing stores down again, including a KMart that had just been fully remodeled in 2016.Aug 07 01:07
schestowitz[01:06] <schestowitz> "I have a rule of never clicking on a techrights link, and it serves me well."Aug 07 01:07
schestowitz[01:06] <schestowitz> Truth hurts, eh?Aug 07 01:07
schestowitz[01:07] <schestowitz> No reply of substance hereAug 07 01:07
schestowitz[01:07] <schestowitz> i.e. the usualAug 07 01:07
schestowitzcontext: some fearful Red Hat employeesAug 07 01:08
schestowitzthey try really hard to make truth goes awayAug 07 01:08
schestowitzas if that alone can save their jobAug 07 01:08
schestowitzI sort of feel bad for them, but they shoot the messenger nowAug 07 01:08
schestowitz96 commentsAug 07 01:08
DaemonFC[m]I can't believe that the creditors entertain the idea of a Penney's re-emerging from bankruptcy like this and are not petitioning to involuntarily convert it to a Chapter 7.Aug 07 01:08
schestowitzwe used to have this biggest clientAug 07 01:09
DaemonFC[m]I would argue that Penney's is likely going to continue squandering assets as long as the court allows them to and then liquidate anyway..Aug 07 01:09
schestowitzgoing back to the 1990sAug 07 01:09
schestowitzkilby and gayfordAug 07 01:09
schestowitzthey did lots of gov. construction workAug 07 01:09
schestowitzthey went into 'administration'Aug 07 01:09
schestowitzwhich is a polite British biz term for 'bustAug 07 01:09
DaemonFC[m]Basically a Chapter 11.Aug 07 01:09
DaemonFC[m]Oh?Aug 07 01:09
schestowitzand they always pretend it'll be OKAug 07 01:09
schestowitzmaybe they'll be backAug 07 01:09
schestowitzbut it never happeneAug 07 01:09
schestowitzbut it never happenedAug 07 01:10
schestowitzof course notAug 07 01:10
schestowitzit's like IBM telling Red Hat all will be the sameAug 07 01:10
DaemonFC[m]An 11 is theoretically you need protection from creditors and to work out a plan that allows you to remain in business but trims debt and bad leases and stuff.Aug 07 01:10
schestowitzAMD saying they will keep the "ATI" brandAug 07 01:10
schestowitzRemember that one?Aug 07 01:10
schestowitzFalse promises "for our times"Aug 07 01:10
schestowitzbut they never resurfaceAug 07 01:10
schestowitzso re Penny'sAug 07 01:10
DaemonFC[m]A Chapter 7 is they sell off everything including the store fixtures and real estate and give the creditors whatever that raises.Aug 07 01:10
schestowitzthey know it's finishedAug 07 01:10
schestowitzbut "hope dies last"Aug 07 01:10
schestowitzthey sayAug 07 01:10
schestowitzso they leave a glimmer of hopeAug 07 01:10
DaemonFC[m]Sears went bust already.Aug 07 01:11
DaemonFC[m]I was just wondering which one would go first. Officially.Aug 07 01:11
schestowitznot WalmartAug 07 01:11
DaemonFC[m]Sears is gone. KMart is basically gone. Penney's....180 store closures and they'll fade away like KMart.Aug 07 01:11
DaemonFC[m]If I was an employee at a KMart I'd be cashing the paycheck as soon as they handed it to me on payday.Aug 07 01:12
DaemonFC[m]At this rate, the paychecks might start bouncing.Aug 07 01:12
DaemonFC[m]It happened to someone I know who worked for the Catholic church.Aug 07 01:12
DaemonFC[m]They brought in a facility administrator who started embezzling from the accounts and then like 100 staff members had their paychecks bounce.Aug 07 01:13
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Walmart always does well during recessions.Aug 07 01:13
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DaemonFC[m]Other businesses that are less efficient die off and there's fewer other places to shop.Aug 07 01:13
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I always shopped at KMart in Huntington just because I didn't like going to Walmart and figured "Oh there's nobody in KMart except old people who were used to shopping there anyway.Aug 07 01:14
DaemonFC[m]They thought it would be a great idea to sell Craftsman tools and a "Martha Stewart selections" line of home goods.Aug 07 01:15
DaemonFC[m]Martha became a federal inmate.Aug 07 01:15
DaemonFC[m]Then the "lifetime warranty" on Craftsman went away with her.Aug 07 01:15
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I gave up on Craftsman tools because people used to leave them in their wills!Aug 07 01:16
DaemonFC[m]You could bring in stuff that your grandfather bought in the 60s if it broke and they'd just replace it.Aug 07 01:16
DaemonFC[m]Then I was using a power drill and started in on a piece of wood and the bit snaps in half.Aug 07 01:17
DaemonFC[m]I go, "Eh, okay. Over to Sears while I'm running errands." They made me argue with them for like 20 minutes over whether they'd replace it.Aug 07 01:17
DaemonFC[m]I get home. I start in again, and that one snaps.Aug 07 01:17
DaemonFC[m]So I just bought another bit set at Menards. No name bit set. Just said Made in China.Aug 07 01:18
DaemonFC[m]It was horrible remodeling that house my mom and Dave bought, but it was nice when we were done like 4 months later.Aug 07 01:19
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: I need help with something...Aug 07 01:19
DaemonFC[m]They must have had terrible measuring equipment 100 years ago.Aug 07 01:19
DaemonFC[m]?Aug 07 01:19
schestowitz[12:51] <schestowitz> I want to research what DC migrations Fedora did the past 2-3 monthsAug 07 01:20
schestowitz[12:51] <schestowitz> there was one last night alsoAug 07 01:20
schestowitz[12:51] <schestowitz> colo changeAug 07 01:20
schestowitz[12:51] <schestowitz> where do they migrate and why?Aug 07 01:20
schestowitz[12:52] <schestowitz> I associate his project with Apple and GitHubAug 07 01:20
schestowitz[12:52] <schestowitz> and that's all I needed to knowAug 07 01:20
schestowitz[12:52] <schestowitz> datacentreAug 07 01:20
schestowitz[12:52] <schestowitz> and colo last nightAug 07 01:20
schestowitz[12:52] <schestowitz> something is going onAug 07 01:20
schestowitz[12:52] <akingu> Greenhost is moving away fAug 07 01:20
schestowitz[12:53] <schestowitz> DaemonFC[m] mentioned something about AzureAug 07 01:20
schestowitz[12:53] <schestowitz> and they already use Microsoft a lot http://techrights.org/2020/06/19/microsoft-hosted-fedora/Aug 07 01:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | 2 Years After Microsoft Hijacked GitHub for Monopoly Fedora Still Has Well Over 100 Projects in Microsoft’s GitHub (Not Even Counting Red Hat’s and Systemd) | TechrightsAug 07 01:20
schestowitz[12:53] <schestowitz> Planet Fedora also directly links a lot to GitHubAug 07 01:20
schestowitz[12:54] <schestowitz> IBM's new CEO mentions AzureAug 07 01:20
schestowitzI think there's something to be found thereAug 07 01:20
DaemonFC[m]Disgusting.Aug 07 01:27
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: That's one reason I wasn't using Cinnamon.Aug 07 01:27
DaemonFC[m]They host on Github. I really hope someone has that cloned in real time somewhere else so that if anything happens, not much is lost.Aug 07 01:28
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Yeah, Fedora's repository system is kind of a mess.Aug 07 01:31
DaemonFC[m]They have those fedora-modular repos active by default on the desktop spins and they're really of little interest to most people.Aug 07 01:31
DaemonFC[m]I have a really really slow connection at the hotel and it doubled my time to check for updates.Aug 07 01:32
DaemonFC[m]So I just turned them off.Aug 07 01:32
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux-driven Home Assistant smart hub starts at $219 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/140709 [https://pleroma.site/objects/69f7254a-e98d-43ad-b071-37d040a309fc]Aug 07 01:32
DaemonFC[m]Apparently, Trump says the US is going to de-list Chinese companies trading on American stock exchanges.Aug 07 01:34
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux Kodachi 7.2 ‘Defeat’ Released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/140608#comment-26063 [https://pleroma.site/objects/fee2ddb4-9281-4820-8791-b004f120b1aa]Aug 07 01:34
DaemonFC[m]I have no idea what's going on. I can't imagine he gives a shit about freedom in Hong Kong.Aug 07 01:34
DaemonFC[m]He uses the Chinese Communist Party's tactics against protesters in America.Aug 07 01:35
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schestowitzhe provokes for warAug 07 01:54
schestowitzlike that'll get him votersAug 07 01:54
schestowitzit'll crash the US economy even fasterAug 07 01:54
schestowitzas lending for business often comes from ChinaAug 07 01:55
schestowitzso China will respond and more small biz will collapseAug 07 01:55
schestowitzhe's doing a fine job destroying what's left of 'MurciaAug 07 01:55
schestowitz*MuricaAug 07 01:55
Narratorhttps://www.theverge.com/2020/8/6/21355674/human-genes-rename-microsoft-excel-misreading-datesAug 07 01:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Scientists rename human genes to stop Microsoft Excel from misreading them as dates - The VergeAug 07 01:55
schestowitzhttps://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/18/richard-branson-says-he-met-trump-only-once-in-1990s-and-it-was-ugly.htmlAug 07 01:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnbc.com | Richard Branson says he met Trump only once, in 1990s, and it was uglyAug 07 01:58
schestowitzThis again, at a national levelAug 07 01:59
Narratorwell, the thing that don't exists cannot be destroyed, the printing money for others oil isn't economy;-)Aug 07 01:59
Narratortime to sleep:)Aug 07 02:00
Digitteknohippiedangit... where'd my post about fsf's new github-using M$shill president go?   wanted to check the timing of it n maybe get smug in myself for posting about it before schestowitz.  n_nAug 07 02:03
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Mozilla VR, Security, Surveillance and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/140710 [https://pleroma.site/objects/23999be0-ebff-458d-bfa9-5acbe1828b09]Aug 07 02:03
schestowitzwait, what?Aug 07 02:09
schestowitzDigitteknohippie: where?Aug 07 02:10
schestowitzit was mentioned in email and in IRC also, before the techrights postAug 07 02:10
MinceRhttps://twitter.com/deletescape/status/1291405688204402689Aug 07 02:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@deletescape: Intel exconfidential Lake Platform Release ;) This is the first 20gb release in a series of large Intel leaks. Mo… https://t.co/a85WyDJhCcAug 07 02:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@deletescape: Intel exconfidential Lake Platform Release ;) This is the first 20gb release in a series of large Intel leaks. Mo… https://t.co/a85WyDJhCcAug 07 02:11
Digitteknohippiei coulda swore i posted about it almost as soon as it was announced on diaspora.  failing to find, either that memory was false, or i ... i probably just chirped about it in some irc chan.   or it's lost on someone else's post's comments.   wanted to find it... was sure i'd chirped "eloquently" about it.  n_nAug 07 02:11
*Digitteknohippie grammar fails there, hopes readers grok past thatAug 07 02:12
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Audiocasts/Shows: Unfettered Freedom, BSD Now, TLLTS, Ubuntu Podcast and Bad Voltage http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/140711 [https://pleroma.site/objects/37452409-f6ce-408b-9a50-f1730fd6a2bb]Aug 07 02:13
MinceRor used a different linkAug 07 02:14
schestowitzDigitteknohippie: maybe that's where I got it from indirectlyAug 07 02:14
DarwinElfsomeone in #fsf pointed out to me the new FSF president (Geoffrey Knauth, gknauth) may not actually sponsor Microsoft GitHub--but a user on there; gknauth's sponsor link is to http://github.com/greghendershott , just another user, not GitHub itself?Aug 07 02:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-greghendershott (Greg Hendershott) · GitHubAug 07 02:15
Digitteknohippieanyways, my whimsical notion of having chirped about it before you, aside, tis quite the doozy.  Aug 07 02:15
DaemonFC[m]Given what's happening to the post office....Aug 07 02:16
DaemonFC[m]I'm going to mail this packet to USCIS 15 days before it has to be postmarked.Aug 07 02:17
DaemonFC[m]I'm guessing that in 3-4 days they can manage to take it to Chicago, but I'm going to play it extremely safe here.Aug 07 02:17
DaemonFC[m]Last time I sent something Priority Express it cost me like $20 to get it over to Itasca, IL, but it was postal money orders to my bankruptcy lawyer and I kind of wanted signature and delivery confirmation on it.Aug 07 02:19
DaemonFC[m]They got it there in 2 business days.Aug 07 02:19
Digitteknohippieidk what https://github.com/gknauth 's "sponsor link" of another M$github user's github's about.  uses it himself.Aug 07 02:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gknauth (Geoffrey Knauth) · GitHubAug 07 02:19
*Digitteknohippie feels better (akwardly~nauseatingly) for having cancelled payment for his fsf associate membership this year, given this has happened.Aug 07 02:21
DaemonFC[m]I was reading an article that was talking about people thinking they'd be clever in paying court fines or student loans on a credit card and then later, in the bankruptcy, there goes the card, and it blew up on them.Aug 07 02:22
*CrystalMath is now known as CrystalMothAug 07 02:22
DarwinElfwell the article says Geoffrey sponsors Microsoft GitHub itself, which apparently isn't the case, rather than a programmer of FLOSS on there...Aug 07 02:22
DaemonFC[m]Yes, they can challenge non-dischargeable debt, but they have to pay a lawyer to take an hour and draft a complaint, about that specific debt.Aug 07 02:23
DarwinElfso I don't see other than a minor-to-medium-level issue...Aug 07 02:23
DaemonFC[m]So if it's not a huge amount, it might fly even if they realize what you've done. Which they will because by that time they've had someone look over what you did with your cards in the months leading up to not being able to pay.Aug 07 02:23
DaemonFC[m]I'd say that if it's not much more than 1-2 billable hours for their attorney there's almost no chance they'll even bother.Aug 07 02:24
DarwinElfcould still be a major issue: if the sponsored person doesn't release on a FLOSS site, but only on GitHub...Aug 07 02:24
DaemonFC[m]What they do look for is signs of egregious abuse, so they're mainly looking for luxury items costing over $900.Aug 07 02:25
DaemonFC[m]So what would land you with a nasty surprise? Paying rent with a credit card is not something they're going to dispute. Paying for groceries is not going to be disputed. Paying for "reasonable" clothing, car repairs, stuff like that.Aug 07 02:26
DarwinElfexcept RMS, I blame the GNU Project overall, because for day-to-day usage when people need to report bugs to start using FLS again, some GNU Project people are forcing everyone to do this on GitHub... doesn't mean you shouldn't if you don't want to, just don't release any of your own there... don't fork anything there (unless you release it elsewhere)... in theory 'everyone should quit GitHub' though until the GNU Project mostly does, as recent Tech Aug 07 02:26
DarwinElfRights articles show, we have few/no choices left of OSes to use in such case... so depends how far you want to go...Aug 07 02:26
DaemonFC[m]The normal day to day workings of a household are not going to be prime targets and almost never end with an Adversarial Proceeding.Aug 07 02:26
DaemonFC[m]Theoretically, people don't plan to make a bunch of car repairs and then file bankruptcy.Aug 07 02:27
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: the payments go through MicrosoftAug 07 02:27
DaemonFC[m]Which ones?Aug 07 02:28
schestowitzDarwinElf I meantAug 07 02:28
schestowitzit gives Microsoft more leverage over everythingAug 07 02:28
DarwinElfaha... and they take a cut?Aug 07 02:28
schestowitzand Sponsor was introduced by MicrosoftAug 07 02:28
DaemonFC[m]My attorney told me that the banks know what you're buying with the credit cards.Aug 07 02:28
schestowitzThis does not predate the takeoverAug 07 02:28
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: yes, use cashAug 07 02:28
DaemonFC[m]I told her, "Oh, I knew that already. Mastercard has a deal to sell all of the data to Google. I presume there are other arrangements. Very valuable, the data.".Aug 07 02:28
schestowitzto the government alsoAug 07 02:29
schestowitzGoogle is like an extension of it, in another senseAug 07 02:29
schestowitzPRISM data sharingAug 07 02:29
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: They could know that I eat Aunt Millie's Buttermilk Bread as we speak.Aug 07 02:29
DaemonFC[m]Shhhh.Aug 07 02:29
DaemonFC[m]Also, I gas up the car.Aug 07 02:29
schestowitzprivate/public cooperation on spying isn't a novel idea, China does this alsoAug 07 02:29
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: so pay with cashAug 07 02:29
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: There's the points.Aug 07 02:30
schestowitzthey then know a lot less about your dayAug 07 02:30
schestowitzunless you have a "phone" with "app"Aug 07 02:30
DaemonFC[m]I suppose that these deals for data fund a lot of those point rewards systems.Aug 07 02:30
schestowitzthen they track where you go, maybe not how much you paidAug 07 02:30
schestowitzbut that can be cross-correlated from dataAug 07 02:30
DaemonFC[m]The rewards programs have gotten a lot more attractive in the last few years.Aug 07 02:30
schestowitzeven for cash paymentsAug 07 02:30
DaemonFC[m]Hard to argue with 5% back on your groceries.Aug 07 02:30
schestowitzsurveillance programsAug 07 02:30
schestowitzthe card is IDAug 07 02:30
schestowitznectar etc.Aug 07 02:31
schestowitzread the finer printAug 07 02:31
schestowitzthey're data brokersAug 07 02:31
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: My bankruptcy cost them almost $100,000.Aug 07 02:31
DaemonFC[m]So they didn't end up  ahead, I take it.Aug 07 02:31
schestowitzso you are already penalised in some stores for privacyAug 07 02:31
DaemonFC[m]At least not on me.Aug 07 02:31
schestowitzDarwinElf: they can do at any timeAug 07 02:31
schestowitzI don't know the detailsAug 07 02:31
schestowitzbut they can demonetise people, if not deplatform themAug 07 02:31
schestowitzsome platforms like patreon tried thingsAug 07 02:32
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I don't know why they didn't close my accounts.Aug 07 02:32
DaemonFC[m]They let that disaster unfold for months while I was paying everything from attorney fees, to lodging, to food, to car repairs.Aug 07 02:32
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: let's focus on techAug 07 02:32
DaemonFC[m]You can't tell me an account review wouldn't have stop lossed that.Aug 07 02:32
schestowitzyou put your life story in this channel all the timeAug 07 02:33
DaemonFC[m]I am interested in the tech on that.Aug 07 02:33
DaemonFC[m]AI programs that miss things like that?Aug 07 02:33
DaemonFC[m]Handling millions of accounts.Aug 07 02:33
schestowitzthose are not good programsAug 07 02:33
schestowitzIt's like copaganda TV showsAug 07 02:34
DaemonFC[m]The way I understand it, Dodd-Frank makes them do account reviews regularly.Aug 07 02:34
DaemonFC[m]They upped my limits in the middle of that. Two cards.Aug 07 02:34
schestowitzthey want you to think it works well and they always win, but they don'tAug 07 02:34
DaemonFC[m]So the account reviews and the software is really crap.Aug 07 02:34
schestowitzprobablyAug 07 02:35
schestowitzlots of lies aroundAug 07 02:35
DaemonFC[m]They want to make it seem like they're going to catch everything, especially if it's obvious.Aug 07 02:35
schestowitzpeople who pretend to make lots of moneyAug 07 02:35
schestowitzand are in debtAug 07 02:35
schestowitzadvertising platforms that oversell themselvesAug 07 02:35
schestowitzuntil VCs run out of patientsAug 07 02:35
DaemonFC[m]A person who pays their bills on time and then everything is going wrong and he takes on $40,000 in debt in 4 months.Aug 07 02:35
schestowitzbad programs spun as "HEY HI" (AI)Aug 07 02:35
schestowitz[02:34] <DaemonFC[m]> So the account reviews and the software is really crap.Aug 07 02:36
schestowitzit's like polygraphAug 07 02:36
schestowitzbrb gotta do somethingAug 07 02:36
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I wonder how many other "me"s are out there and just waiting to go splat in another month or two. Start to go splat.Aug 07 02:36
DaemonFC[m]You're right, me in particular, doesn't hurt. Every mosquito in the swamp bites you at the same time, you die.Aug 07 02:36
DaemonFC[m]Well, I was reading that they have really good software that reviews customers acting strangely.Aug 07 02:37
schestowitzDarwinElf: those are the finer details anywayAug 07 02:38
DaemonFC[m]New patterns that suggest they're in financial trouble and cuts them off.Aug 07 02:38
schestowitzwhich overlook the bigger pictureAug 07 02:38
schestowitzthe way things stand, an acting FSF president, first one in 35 or so years, has an acrive Microsoft accountAug 07 02:38
DaemonFC[m]Not only did it not happen. Four banks missed it on 5 cards. Aug 07 02:38
schestowitzpeople will interpret this as being dependent on Microsoft proprietary crap as hosting platform is acceptableAug 07 02:38
schestowitzand FSF would be hypocritical to state otherwiseAug 07 02:39
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Capital One strikes me as "AI" and outsourced call centers in India.Aug 07 02:39
DaemonFC[m]It's unbelievable that one of the biggest banks in the world would need to do this.Aug 07 02:39
DaemonFC[m]To them I guess it's a numbers game.Aug 07 02:40
DaemonFC[m]They charge obscene amounts of interest and some bankruptcies are expected and they still make out like bandits. So all things being equal, the house always wins.Aug 07 02:40
DaemonFC[m]They just kept taking on more and more risk and having Trump water down the stress tests.Aug 07 02:41
DaemonFC[m]Now it's not going to take much more for there to be bank failures.Aug 07 02:41
DaemonFC[m]While the talking heads on CNBC talk of "richly valued markets".Aug 07 02:42
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Well, in general, the government hates cash.Aug 07 02:42
DaemonFC[m]Because it's easy to hide from them and so people do and they don't pay their taxes.Aug 07 02:42
DaemonFC[m]The dangerous part for tax cheats is that if they have a TON of cash it gets hard to spend without paying taxes and coming up with a plausible story for how they got it.Aug 07 02:43
DaemonFC[m]Never underestimate the IRS, or the Illinois Department of Revenue. They can miss things, but when they don't you're in deep shit.Aug 07 02:43
DaemonFC[m]You know, you start having nice things show up and they're going to want to know why. If it exceeds your stated income by multiples.Aug 07 02:44
DaemonFC[m]You know. A nursing assistant and a plumber all of a sudden have a nice house and some luxury cars. It draws attention.Aug 07 02:45
DaemonFC[m]You stick it in the bank, there's a record if it having been in the bank. You take a lot out of the bank, they notify the IRS.Aug 07 02:45
cybrNautThis link " reinforcing the Microsoft monopoly, " from this page http://techrights.org/2020/08/06/fsf-microsoft-github/ is fucked up on my browser.. when I simply hover the mouse over it, it flickers like crazy and can't be clicked on.  To follow the link, i had to view-source and copy it out of the source codeAug 07 02:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] RMS Succeeded by a Microsoft Sponsor | TechrightsAug 07 02:46
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: So these people who manage to trick the government or a bank (or the government and a bank) into handing them $4 million.... They may not be able to access a lot of that before they get arrested.Aug 07 02:46
DaemonFC[m]More than $10,000 out of an account in a day in cash raises a lot of eybrows and pings the IRS. If you structure things to avoid reporting, they report that.Aug 07 02:46
DaemonFC[m]If it starts happening every day for weeks, you'll have the cops at your front door.Aug 07 02:47
DaemonFC[m]So there's no way to just rip them off, go get $4 million out of the bank, and run to Canada.Aug 07 02:47
DaemonFC[m]I'm kind of surprised people even try to. Enjoy the next 20-30 days you're not in prison.Aug 07 02:48
DaemonFC[m]So people who earn a lot of money through crime need to find a way to launder it.Aug 07 02:49
DaemonFC[m]Once it's laundered and taxed they can stick it in the bank without raising questions, and spend it.Aug 07 02:49
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: There's a lot of small restaurants in Chicago, or....there were anyway. They didn't take cards. John said "They're probably laundering money.". I said, "Some are, maybe. Others probably just don't want to pay interchange. I mean, the prices at their restaurants are quite reasonable and the card people take 3-3.5% of the transaction.".Aug 07 02:51
DaemonFC[m]I'm not talking Maricel "reasonable". I mean a big meal for like $5.25. Where do you find that at? That's cheaper than Indiana really. Aug 07 02:52
DaemonFC[m]All these banks do with the cards is track people, move account balances around, and charge money for doing very little. Aug 07 02:53
DaemonFC[m]20-30% interest on credit cards. 3-4% to the merchant (in the price of the stuff) to accept some plastic. Aug 07 02:53
DaemonFC[m]The merchants even have to buy the terminals so they can pay the fees so that their customers can lump themselves over the head with interest and be tracked.Aug 07 02:54
DaemonFC[m]You're right it's insane. But even Stallman pays with a card sometimes.Aug 07 02:54
DaemonFC[m]When he would have to give up the same amount of information anyway.Aug 07 02:54
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I'm sure that Walmart markets these Capital One Walmart credit cards because of some big deal they worked out with the bank to avoid interchange and advertise big points if you only shop at Walmart.Aug 07 02:55
DaemonFC[m]Avoiding interchange alone means many millions of dollars a year to a company like Walmart.Aug 07 02:56
DaemonFC[m]Walmart and Amazon are approaching monopoly status.Aug 07 02:58
DaemonFC[m]The pandemic made it far worse.Aug 07 02:58
DaemonFC[m]https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/senate-bill-curb-invasive-facial-recognition-software-after-rite-aid-deployed-hundredsAug 07 03:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zerohedge.com | Senate Bill To Curb Invasive Facial Recognition Software After Rite Aid Deployed In 200 Stores | Zero HedgeAug 07 03:34
DaemonFC[m]Uhm, wouldn't identifying people compared to mugshots solve some of the 20 or 30 million outstanding arrest warrants?Aug 07 03:34
DaemonFC[m]Austin didn't have to do much to hide from domestic battery charges in Illinois for the past 13 months. Just stay in Wisconsin and don't cross over into Illinois. Misdemeanor warrants only really seem to negatively affect people who seek professional employment and somewhat legitimate landlords. Obviously. Lake County has over 23,000 arrest warrants that have yet to be served with some going back into the 80s. Aug 07 03:36
DaemonFC[m]Gonad didn't have the brightest offspring. One of them went on the lam in Alabama for 5 years, got himself in trouble with the IRS, and ended up getting arrested anyway because he had his expired Indiana driver's license on him when the cop pulled him over, because he was going to go to jail for two weeks.Aug 07 03:38
DaemonFC[m]He ended up doing two weeks for that and then transferred to state prison for another year because while he was in the jail the prosecutor indicted him on unlawful flight to avoid prosecutoion.Aug 07 03:39
DaemonFC[m]I would have said, "Well, shit." and just reported to county to do the 14 days, myself. Aug 07 03:40
DaemonFC[m]Anyway, yeah, the fact that lawmakers want to stop facial recognition scanners that would tell the police "Hey, this guy with a felony warrant for raping a 4 year old is shopping at that store right now!" is kind of bizarre, really.Aug 07 03:41
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: The police in Chicago have "predictive crime software" that they spent WAAAY too much money on.Aug 07 03:42
DaemonFC[m]They were on PBS talking about how it worked and they said it basically tells them who it thinks is going to commit crimes or get shot or something based on statistical profiling.Aug 07 03:43
DaemonFC[m]Then the cops end up at their door to helpfully tell them "You gon get got!" or however the cops say it.Aug 07 03:43
DaemonFC[m]It also apparently prioritizes which warrants to serve.Aug 07 03:44
DaemonFC[m]Near as I can tell it hasn't had any effect on violent crime.Aug 07 03:44
DaemonFC[m]2016 was the worst year for violent crime since 1996.Aug 07 03:44
DaemonFC[m]This year is pretty bad too.Aug 07 03:45
DaemonFC[m]I'm sure there's a bribery scandal behind this "software" and they'd justify it by saying that without the Really Shitty Version of Minority Report, it would be the worst violent crime wave in Chicago since the 70s.Aug 07 03:46
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: I was laughing about this software with John while PBS was talking about it and I said "Minority" Report with quotation fingers.Aug 07 03:46
DaemonFC[m]I laughed, he laughed.Aug 07 03:46
DaemonFC[m]Someone got taken on this. The taxpayers again. I suppose that it gives the police some cover from allegations of racism. It wasn't them. It was this highly advanced software.Aug 07 03:50
AriadnehahahahaAug 07 03:54
AriadneTrump is going after tencentAug 07 03:54
Ariadnewhich own fortniteAug 07 03:54
Ariadnewhich is one of the most popular games on the planetAug 07 03:54
Ariadneif you did not knowAug 07 03:54
schestowitzAriadne: http://techrights.org/2020/08/06/wordpress-update/Aug 07 04:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Site Upgrades Likely Coming Soon | TechrightsAug 07 04:00
schestowitzbest if we can pick a date some time next weekAug 07 04:01
schestowitzwe will pay for your time and effort eventually, all of itAug 07 04:01
Ariadnenext weekend would be fineAug 07 04:01
schestowitzcool :)Aug 07 04:02
schestowitzmy week off word, iircAug 07 04:02
schestowitzoff workAug 07 04:02
Ariadnecan't wait for Trump's ban on Chinese internet companies to go into effectAug 07 04:03
schestowitzit's self-harmingAug 07 04:03
Ariadneall these kids playing fortniteAug 07 04:03
Ariadneare going to be complainingAug 07 04:03
Ariadnenon stopAug 07 04:03
schestowitzwell, they can't vote anywayAug 07 04:03
Ariadneand blaming TrumpAug 07 04:03
AriadneyesAug 07 04:03
AriadnebutAug 07 04:03
Ariadnethey can annoy the parents who doAug 07 04:03
schestowitztrueAug 07 04:03
Ariadneall some PAC has to doAug 07 04:04
Ariadneis make the connectionAug 07 04:04
Ariadnebetween annoyed kids and trumpAug 07 04:04
schestowitztiktok will, in 45 days, tell kids it's OK because "MAGA"Aug 07 04:05
schestowitzall about shaping narrativesAug 07 04:05
Ariadnethey won't careAug 07 04:06
DaemonFC[m]https://www.npr.org/2020/08/05/898903600/foreign-workers-living-overseas-mistakenly-received-1-200-u-s-stimulus-checksAug 07 04:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | $1,200 Coronavirus Stimulus Checks Mistakenly Sent To Foreign Workers Overseas : NPRAug 07 04:39
schestowitz"buy American, hire american..."Aug 07 04:41
*CrystalMoth is now known as CrystalMathAug 07 04:41
DaemonFC[m]Trump says maybe he'll just sign an executive order and illegally dump out a fund Congress appropriated for something else.Aug 07 04:45
DaemonFC[m]I'm hoping it comes out of the annual war slush fund.Aug 07 04:45
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DaemonFC[m]8 hours left and my case closes out.Aug 07 05:04
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schestowitzwhere to send the gift?Aug 07 05:19
DaemonFC[m]LOLAug 07 05:50
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I've been working on Mandy's work permit renewal. I think the packet is done. I just need a money order and to drop it in the mail. Aug 07 05:52
DaemonFC[m]Hell is an eternity consigned to meaningless labor.Aug 07 05:52
DaemonFC[m]Okular made filling out the paperwork a lot easier, at least.Aug 07 05:52
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Unfortunately, this is the third time I've gotten off probation.Aug 07 05:54
DaemonFC[m]Also, the first time I've gotten probation.Aug 07 05:54
DaemonFC[m]The legal system is funny like that.Aug 07 05:55
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schestowitz"nice but I think I'm going to just pick up a dumb phone. Personally got a bit tried with the whole smart phone thing!!"Aug 07 06:51
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I was considering a Jitterbug.Aug 07 06:51
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DaemonFC[m]I wonder if you can activate them on a real carrier or just that dumb MVNO that advertises them.Aug 07 06:52
DaemonFC[m]I don't really need it to do much. GPS, calls, texts. I wonder if it runs apps.Aug 07 06:55
DaemonFC[m]That might be too much for the target audience.Aug 07 06:55
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: no reply from koffler yetAug 07 07:02
schestowitzmaybe a bad email address, I will check laterAug 07 07:02
schestowitzmaybe send him mail also?Aug 07 07:02
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: He might be on Freenode stillAug 07 07:09
DaemonFC[m]kkofler I thinkAug 07 07:09
schestowitzask him thenAug 07 07:09
schestowitzwhat he knowsAug 07 07:09
DaemonFC[m]Let me figure out how to message an IRC user.Aug 07 07:21
DaemonFC[m]I found a pair of earmuffs to wear over my earplugs.Aug 07 07:46
DaemonFC[m]Rap music is the worst thing ever invented.Aug 07 07:46
DaemonFC[m]Vir: That noise! That horrible noise! What is it?Aug 07 07:47
DaemonFC[m]Londo: Narn opera. It seems our friend the technomage has a rather perverse sense of humor.Aug 07 07:47
DaemonFC[m]No, I'd say he went easy on him.Aug 07 07:47
DaemonFC[m]The guy is up all night. Don't think he ever sleeps. I told Mandy, "Jesus. There are people who have broken after a few days of this at Gitmo and confessed to things they never did to make it stop, and black people do it to themselves on purpose."Aug 07 07:49
DaemonFC[m]You put me in a room with this shit for 10 minutes and I'll sign any confession you want. Guaranteed.Aug 07 07:50
DaemonFC[m]The only reason the police don't do it is the Eighth Amendment.Aug 07 07:50
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Of course, I heard at Gitmo it wasn't just gangsta rap. They were playing the Cookie Monster song and stuff.Aug 07 07:51
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DaemonFC[m]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ChavAug 07 07:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Chav - WikipediaAug 07 07:55
DaemonFC[m]Oh, I see there's a counterpart over there. Not quite the same thing though.Aug 07 07:55
DaemonFC[m]I saw a dilapidated Impala with lots of rust and impact damage over at the post office today. Despite the fact that the car was on its last leg, the guy sprung for retarded gaudy oversized rims and hubcaps and a loud stereo.Aug 07 07:56
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DaemonFC[m]Stupid people have to be loud because the loudest one usually gets what s/he wants. Aug 07 07:57
DaemonFC[m]However, as a method for staying out of trouble, making your car with no registration sticker look conspicuous and blasting the stereo doesn't seem like a good tactic. Aug 07 07:58
DaemonFC[m]I need some suggestions for earplugs. The $2.50 2 pack ones at Walmart work just okay. If it's a noisy stereo in the next motel room it's just about do. Run a loud fan and it should finish the job.Aug 07 08:03
DaemonFC[m]I wonder if anyone makes super duper active noise canceling ones that play white noise that makes it sound like waves splashing on a beach, or a thunderstorm. Aug 07 08:03
DaemonFC[m]Bose had something like that but quit making it.Aug 07 08:03
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schestowitzdoes this site run windows or. net? I think not,  but better make sure... https://training.linuxfoundation.org/training/hyperledger-fabric-for-developers-lfd272/?utm_source=lftraining&utm_medium=pr&utm_campaign=hyperledgerAug 07 12:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-training.linuxfoundation.org | Hyperledger Fabric for Developers (LFD272) - Linux Foundation - TrainingAug 07 12:39
XRevan86The Internet facing part is varnish, as it says in the headers.Aug 07 12:41
XRevan86varnish <- nginx <- WordPress?Aug 07 12:42
XRevan86WordPress is not .NET, that I can tell you :)Aug 07 12:42
MinceR(cat) https://hugelolcdn.com/i/684436.jpgAug 07 12:47
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schestowitzXRevan86: thanks!Aug 07 12:51
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MinceRhttps://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/07/12/10bbb5e5e938279f.pngAug 07 12:58
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schestowitzSounds like an Apple product, smugness not included, just brightly-lit desktop lidAug 07 13:09
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MinceRhttps://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/07/12/4d8d30a44d91149f.jpgAug 07 13:32
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XRevan86https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&u=https%3A%2F%2Fnitter.net%2Fmax_katz%2Fstatus%2F1291668735145775104 another neat trickAug 07 13:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-translate.google.com | Google TranslateAug 07 13:49
MinceRthey go to a surprising amount of effort to pretend there's a democracyAug 07 13:51
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/OZM3qhP.jpgAug 07 13:53
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MinceR(cat) https://hugelolcdn.com/i/684394.jpgAug 07 14:44
schestowitzXRevan86: hahaAug 07 14:47
schestowitzMinceR: you have a nice carAug 07 14:48
schestowitz*catAug 07 14:48
schestowitzbut, you knowAug 07 14:48
schestowitzhave some decency :-)Aug 07 14:48
MinceRhttps://pbfcomics.com/comics/the-talk/Aug 07 15:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pbfcomics.com | The Talk - The Perry Bible FellowshipAug 07 15:07
scientesbloody mosquito bitchAug 07 15:25
scientescaught her in the actAug 07 15:25
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schestowitzhttp://tinycorelinux.net/Aug 07 15:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tinycorelinux.net | Tiny Core Linux, Micro Core Linux, 12MB Linux GUI Desktop, Live, Frugal, ExtendableAug 07 15:39
MinceRhttps://pbfcomics.com/comics/the-flight/Aug 07 16:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pbfcomics.com | The Flight - The Perry Bible FellowshipAug 07 16:17
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MinceR(audio:important) (long) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KQGZa773sIAug 07 17:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Joe Rogan Experience #1413 - Bill Maher - YouTubeAug 07 17:07
oiaohmschestowitz: https://news-web.php.net/php.internals/110907  this gets interesting.   Users wanting to use PHP 8.0 and forwards looks like Microsoft will be pushing for WSL or native Linux.Aug 07 17:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news-web.php.net | php.internals: Microsoft Support of PHP on WindowsAug 07 17:10
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oiaohmXRevan86: schestowitz https://github.com/iolevel/wpdotnet-sdk  It is possible as horrible as it sounds to have wordpress as .net only.Aug 07 17:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - iolevel/wpdotnet-sdk: WordPress compiled to .NET Standard. SDK for ASP.NET Core.Aug 07 17:25
XRevan86oiaohm: Wait, how?Aug 07 17:26
XRevan86PeachPie: PHP compiler to .NET – got itAug 07 17:26
oiaohmThe horrible selling point there is we want to ship wordpress plugins without source code.Aug 07 17:27
XRevan86oiaohm: except bytecode is easy to restoreAug 07 17:28
XRevan86so there isn't much of a difference between "compiled to bytecode" and "minifying"Aug 07 17:28
oiaohmwordpress is GPL license.Aug 07 17:28
XRevan86oiaohm: That… also doesn't introduce a difference between minifying and bytecode compilationAug 07 17:29
XRevan86No matter the intentions and legality, .NET is not going to make it easier or harder to hide the sources.Aug 07 17:30
XRevan86It's just a dumb assumption that if it's .exe, then it must be a binary mess that's hard to decompile.Aug 07 17:31
XRevan86And not only bytecode can be obfuscated.Aug 07 17:32
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oiaohmphp has its own byte code and php 8.0 has JITAug 07 17:38
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MinceR(cat) https://hugelolcdn.com/i/684302.jpgAug 07 17:51
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DaemonFC[m]<XRevan86 "It's just a dumb assumption that"> Yeah, CDBurnerXP was written in VB.NET.Aug 07 18:25
DaemonFC[m]It actually said in the license do not use a .NET disassembler.Aug 07 18:25
DaemonFC[m]VB .NET hasn't had any new features in a very long time, but you can still use it.Aug 07 18:27
DaemonFC[m]The FBI memo about "upgrading from Windows 7 to a supported release" could have been a Microsoft PR memo.Aug 07 18:31
DaemonFC[m]It uses scare tactics to suggest that continuing to use Windows 7 instead of Windows 10 puts you in more danger and doesn't mention Linux at all.Aug 07 18:32
DaemonFC[m]If I was going to try to use a Windows 7 machine for a while longer, I'd probably just get leaked security hotfixes from the usual source. They have to be digitally signed by Microsoft according to the latest servicing stack requirements in Windows 7 (so SHA collisions are pretty unlikely).Aug 07 18:33
DaemonFC[m]I do not believe that there's any method that Windows 7 has to determine whether you have EOL support, so you could continue receiving security updates through 2024 that way by installing them one at a time.Aug 07 18:34
DaemonFC[m]Or integrating them into a Windows 7 ISO that has the latest service pack and platform update and stuff in it.Aug 07 18:34
DaemonFC[m]So if you absolutely must keep Windows 7 running as long as possible, there's the My Digital Life source for EOL updates.Aug 07 18:35
psydreaddesperate times are coming, now they are integrating this Edgy browser without the option to remove itAug 07 18:35
DaemonFC[m]The same thing happened with Windows XP. They had a trove of hotfixes that were intended for WEPOS or were only ever available one at a time by request from Microsoft over compatibility concerns.Aug 07 18:36
DaemonFC[m]Yes, but the legacy Edge is still there and there's a registry bit you can flip to unhide it.Aug 07 18:36
DaemonFC[m]That's funny. They're stuck with EdgeHTML for probably at least 10 years.Aug 07 18:36
DaemonFC[m]It's basically in mothballs. They'll update it so that it can continue to make HTTPS connections and for security issues, but nothing else.Aug 07 18:37
oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: if you set your windows XP machine to report to be a POS they auto installed as well.Aug 07 18:37
DaemonFC[m]It wasn't well planned and now they're stuck supporting something that people don't use because they did what they always do. Stuff it into "the platform".Aug 07 18:37
DaemonFC[m]Had Microsoft laid out the policy of "We're going to upgrade Internet Explorer and if you build applications that work on a particular version and nothing else you'll be sorry you did that.", then this mess wouldn't be happening.Aug 07 18:38
DaemonFC[m]Three web browsers mandatory while in Linux the entire graphical interface is optional.Aug 07 18:39
DaemonFC[m]They say in Windows Server there's a minimal install that has a lower footprint, or at least they did with Server 2003 and 2008, but it installs a bunch of GUI shit so that you can interact with a console. It's pretty funny, really.Aug 07 18:40
DaemonFC[m]IE 11 is a collection of "rendering personalities". There are quirks modes that make it behave like Internet Explorer 6 did, and it's still integrated into Windows 10 and you can't remove it.Aug 07 18:41
DaemonFC[m]It's unclear when or even if Microsoft is planning to remove it. It should be removed. No matter what they do with it, it's a pile of junk that will have more security holes. Aug 07 18:41
DaemonFC[m]Microsoft's general policy is that things can be removed 20 years after they were introduced, but what does that even mean with Internet Explorer 11? That it's going to be in there for 20 years after Windows 8.1 went out? Aug 07 18:43
DaemonFC[m]That there's going to be an IE that can emulate IE 6 as part of Windows until 2032?Aug 07 18:43
MinceRmaybe they'll just ship Backdoors with Idiot Exploiter 6 and/or 11 on a VMAug 07 18:44
psydreadI saw a news item about HPE and Microsoft making an announcement that you can install Windows Server on systems with 48-core and 64-core processors for the same price as normal. All the comments were like "why bother, just install Linux" and that's what their image is like in mainstream media nowAug 07 18:44
DaemonFC[m]They already had that called "Virtual Windows XP Mode" in Windows 7.Aug 07 18:44
MinceR:>Aug 07 18:45
DaemonFC[m]People figured out how to dump the VM and get it loaded in an emulator on Linux.Aug 07 18:45
DaemonFC[m]Here it is all licensed and everything. :)Aug 07 18:45
DaemonFC[m]They have a lightweight VM where Windows 10 emulates Windows 10 now.Aug 07 18:46
DaemonFC[m]It's called Windows Sandbox.Aug 07 18:46
DaemonFC[m]It basically starts a fresh copy of Windows 10 in an emulator and if something screws it up it's gone as soon as you close the "sandbox".Aug 07 18:46
DaemonFC[m]I think I need new glasses.Aug 07 18:47
DaemonFC[m]Walmart gave me a free sample bag and one of them was an icy hot patch.Aug 07 18:48
DaemonFC[m]It says "for back and large areas".Aug 07 18:48
DaemonFC[m]I saw it out of the corner of my eye and read it as "for back and large anus". Aug 07 18:48
DaemonFC[m]Then I thought "who....oh goatse, right.".Aug 07 18:48
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: A van from the health department pulled up earlier. When I got back there was als oa car that said health department and two health department people were standing there arguing with some black lady about something for like half an hour.Aug 07 18:50
DaemonFC[m]Who knows....Aug 07 18:51
DaemonFC[m]They don't seem to go after people for violating the health code at Walmart, although they could.Aug 07 18:51
MinceR¯\_(ツ)_/¯Aug 07 18:51
DaemonFC[m]Pritzker's mask order is pretty toothless, and so black people wear their mask under their noses, or just wait until they're inside and take them off.Aug 07 18:51
MinceRhttps://www.madmagazine.com/blog/2019/05/01/the-facebook-redesign-wed-like-to-seeAug 07 18:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.madmagazine.com | THE FACEBOOK REDESIGN WE WANT TO SEE | Mad MagazineAug 07 18:52
DaemonFC[m]Some stand outside and aren't smart enough to figure out the "take them off after you get in" strategy and argue with my spouse.Aug 07 18:52
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: We're being told it's the far right that's refusing masks, but every white person I see pretty much has at least one and maybe two.Aug 07 18:53
DaemonFC[m]Then like 40% of the people who get COVID-19 are black in a state where they're 16% of the population, and the government has to pretend to scratch their heads and wonder why and go "maybe it's because they have jobs where they can't work from home!".Aug 07 18:54
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: That's how SJW the state works.Aug 07 18:55
DaemonFC[m]Every time you have a policy collision with a group that doesn't want to adhere to the minimum standards of civilization that everyone else has to abide by or else....you say they're "marginalized" and find an excuse for why they can't be expected to do this. It's not patronizing in the slightest!Aug 07 18:56
DaemonFC[m]If we put what I'm actually seeing to scale, if black people were 100% of the population, they'd manage to be nearly 220% of the COVID-19 victims. They'd manage. Aug 07 18:58
DaemonFC[m]You say how do they do that? Well, that's easy. Take the number of total victims of COVID-19 and more than double it. Aug 07 18:58
DaemonFC[m]100% mask refusal results in about that amount of increase in hospitalizations. Aug 07 18:59
DaemonFC[m]Anything less than 80% compliance is ineffective, so you can only have a certain number of freeloaders before the benefits of wearing masks completely falls apart.Aug 07 18:59
DaemonFC[m]By the time you're down to half wearing them and half not wearing them it's almost as bad as 0% compliance.Aug 07 19:00
DaemonFC[m]You have to bake in the calculation that no matter where you go there will be a certain amount of freeloaders who take advantage of the civility of others (black people and Republicans, mostly), and that's where the "How many masks of what kind should I layer and how much hand sanitizer is enough to kill anything that could possibly be on my hands?" comes in.Aug 07 19:01
DaemonFC[m]Mostly the reason why it works is because everyone has to do it. Now, there's cops at Walmart, so they have to see people going in the store and taking them off. However, I have yet to hear of a single citation for misdemeanor health code violation. That's a $1,000 fine and potentially 6 months in jail. They don't want to put people in jail over small stuff right now, and that's fine with me. Hit them with the $1,000Aug 07 19:06
DaemonFC[m]fine. By the time you whack them with cash register justice fees for "using" the court system, their Illinois court "assessment" will be over $1,850 and they'll never risk being caught without a mask on again.Aug 07 19:06
DaemonFC[m]However, this has us relying on another myth. The cop that upholds the law.Aug 07 19:06
MinceRlayering masks seems counterproductiveAug 07 19:07
DaemonFC[m]Most of them are more like Civil Protection from the Combine invasion force in Half Life. "Pardon me, I'm behind on my beating quota.". I wish I could be a cop so that every time I'm in a bad mood I can pull someone over and taser them for "reaching"......for an insurance card.Aug 07 19:07
MinceRbetween masks, they aren't going to form even the seal a mask would form against the wearer's skinAug 07 19:07
DaemonFC[m]I have a dust mask with a velcro strap.Aug 07 19:08
MinceRand it's a path of least resistance so a lot of the droplets are going to go through the gap at the edge of a maskAug 07 19:08
DaemonFC[m]Underneath it, I have a cloth mask that it secures to my face.Aug 07 19:08
DaemonFC[m]So there's no gaps.Aug 07 19:08
DaemonFC[m]If I just wear a cloth or surgical mask, my eyeglasses steam up so bad when I breathe out that I can't see anything.Aug 07 19:08
DaemonFC[m]Like this, there's about 5% as much steam on my glasses.Aug 07 19:09
DaemonFC[m]It forms enough of a seal that almost all of the air goes through the cloth after going through the 5 layer dust filter.Aug 07 19:10
DaemonFC[m]It's not fun, but it is okay for short periods of time.Aug 07 19:10
DaemonFC[m]I told schestowitzthat I shop online for most of my groceries. That way I'm not in the store struggling to breathe through that mask with a bunch of fucking idiots who had to bring 5 kids with them to shop during a pandemic and not one of them is wearing a mask.Aug 07 19:11
DaemonFC[m]Generally, we have a lot of laws, but they're not enforced much.Aug 07 19:11
MinceRsurgical masks don't seem to form a seal at allAug 07 19:11
DaemonFC[m]The government is shocked, shocked to find that we have a law for everything and that there's so much crime.Aug 07 19:12
MinceRand yeah, i have a lot of trouble with masks blowing air into my eyeballs or glassesAug 07 19:12
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Patton, I think.Aug 07 19:13
DaemonFC[m]Nobody ever won a war by being a dumb son of a bitch that went and died for his country.Aug 07 19:13
DaemonFC[m]You win a war by making some other dumb son of a bitch die for his.Aug 07 19:13
MinceRyeah, people who want firearms to be banned are always shocked that people would just violate lawsAug 07 19:14
DaemonFC[m]How to survive a pandemic that your "president" let get completely out of control? Assume everything the government says is a lie.Aug 07 19:14
DaemonFC[m]Take more precautions than you think are necessary and worry about you, not what other people are doing.Aug 07 19:14
DaemonFC[m]Other Americans did what they did and 163,000 of them are dead now with many more to go.Aug 07 19:15
DaemonFC[m]If they say wear a mask, it means wear two.Aug 07 19:15
DaemonFC[m]If they say you don't need gloves to run your errands, wear gloves, and take them off properly, and use hand sanitizer immediately just in case.Aug 07 19:16
DaemonFC[m]If they say it's fine to go out and shop, it means they don't want businesses to lose money and your life will just be another statistic if you lose it because you went shopping.Aug 07 19:17
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: The CVS pharmacy still makes you touch the credit card terminal like 50 times to complete a transaction.Aug 07 19:18
DaemonFC[m]Oh, but cash is nasty. Right?Aug 07 19:18
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, no nasty nasty cash for me. Let's touch this filthy terminal where all the sick people go to get their meds, which looks like it hasn't been cleaned in 10 years.Aug 07 19:18
DaemonFC[m]Even if you use cash, they demand you sign on the terminal and say yes or no to spam and junk and their "rewards" system and all this other fucking crap.Aug 07 19:19
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: But there's a loophole. You drive up to the window and there's no terminal asking you questions before they'll hand you your pills.Aug 07 19:20
DaemonFC[m]Do you have a rewards number?Aug 07 19:22
DaemonFC[m]Do you want to sign up to receive coupons over text message?Aug 07 19:22
DaemonFC[m]Sign this statement that you don't want the pharmacist to counsel you on this medication refill.Aug 07 19:23
DaemonFC[m]Sign this hippa notice.Aug 07 19:23
DaemonFC[m]Do you want cash back?Aug 07 19:23
DaemonFC[m]Would you like to donate a dollar to buy iPads for third world children to help stop charity shaming?Aug 07 19:23
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tZ0iuKNChsAug 07 19:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-South Park ~ Charity Shaming - YouTubeAug 07 19:25
DaemonFC[m]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8nRkIv-nmkAug 07 19:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-South Park Charity Shaming - YouTubeAug 07 19:28
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: I suppose that's another plot hole in Terminator 3.Aug 07 19:34
DaemonFC[m]Why would Cyber Research Systems leave all of the T-1s battle ready and loaded with live ammunition in a storage area?Aug 07 19:34
DaemonFC[m]It doesn't seem logical that you'd leave dozens of these things in storage with live ammunition, much less the Hunter Killer prototypes.Aug 07 19:35
DaemonFC[m]With explosive rockets?Aug 07 19:35
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MinceRthey really trusted their AIAug 07 19:35
MinceRhow better to guard dangerous munitions than with perfectly reliable AI killing machines?Aug 07 19:36
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DaemonFC[m]As schestowitz says, "Hey, hi!". :DAug 07 19:37
DaemonFC[m]"Nice to meet you. Get out!"Aug 07 19:37
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Well, they were on a secure military installation in the desert.Aug 07 19:38
DaemonFC[m]Doesn't seem to follow that they would need these things to protect such an installation on short notice.Aug 07 19:39
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Machines, right? You can theoretically keep one going as long as you make field repairs as necessary.Aug 07 19:41
DaemonFC[m]In Terminator Salvation, Skynet was still using T-1s with some design improvements well into that version of 2018.Aug 07 19:41
DaemonFC[m]So 15 years after T3. Aug 07 19:41
MinceR"Thank you for your unclean visit. Now GET OUT! ...and come again, please."Aug 07 19:44
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DaemonFC[m]It makes sense that Skynet would use a certain number and type of designs in the war effort. You don't want to have too many very powerful models that can think independently and are very hard to stop out in the field.Aug 07 19:47
DaemonFC[m]The T-1 is very efficient at killing humans, but no match for a T-800, T-1000, T-3000 (machine phase matter), etc. Aug 07 19:48
DaemonFC[m]It's also obviously not human form, so you need a model that tricks people into letting it in and then it proceeds to wipe out an entire bunker full of them.Aug 07 19:48
DaemonFC[m]The T-600 (rubber skin) were supposedly easy to spot up close, but sometimes that doesn't matter. If it's dark outside, or there's smoke or something, it could look human enough to get close enough to kill you.Aug 07 19:50
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: There were various crossover comics and video games.Aug 07 19:50
DaemonFC[m]The Terminator vs. Robocop, Superman vs. The Terminator, etc. Aug 07 19:50
DaemonFC[m]I haven't read any of the comics. I'm sure someone has scanned them.Aug 07 19:51
DaemonFC[m]I'm surprised nobody has done a Judge Dredd vs. The Terminator crossover. Aug 07 19:52
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DaemonFC[m]I mean, if he can clean out that entire building full of bad guys (the 2012 movie), I suppose he could handle a T-800. You can make anything work in fiction.Aug 07 19:53
DaemonFC[m]http://techrights.org/2020/08/07/freedom-is-personal/Aug 07 19:58
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Late night TV ads for Christian book publishing that mention they handle the DRM for you.Aug 07 19:58
DaemonFC[m]Yes, struck by divine intervention. You want to share what God has been telling you. It is for all mankind, afterall, but only if they buy a license first and authenticate with the DRM server at Amazon.Aug 07 19:59
DaemonFC[m]*divine revelation ratherAug 07 20:00
DaemonFC[m]Anyway, the idea of Christian publishing as part of an anti-social control system is so funny on so many levels.Aug 07 20:00
MinceRthey're learning from the scientologistwsAug 07 20:06
MinceRs/ws/s/Aug 07 20:06
DaemonFC[m]I may grab the Stargate SG-1 books.Aug 07 20:08
DaemonFC[m]I understand there's several more Tollan and Aschen story arcs.Aug 07 20:09
MinceR:)Aug 07 20:09
DaemonFC[m]Teal'c quickly surmised that the Tollan were about to be bowled over by the Goa'uld because they lost the ability to think strategically. Even though they were hundreds of years past them in technology.Aug 07 20:10
DaemonFC[m]Saved them once.Aug 07 20:10
DaemonFC[m]They didn't learn the lesson.Aug 07 20:10
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DaemonFC[m]They figured they'd sit there with their ion cannons protecting them and if a mothership dropped out of hyperspace they'd just blow it up, so they didn't see the need to be actively involved in the war against the Goa'uld.Aug 07 20:12
DaemonFC[m]If they had supplied advanced weapons to the SGC, the threat would have been quickly eliminated and they'd still be around. Instead they patronized anyone who was less advanced than them as too stupid to handle their technology.Aug 07 20:13
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: I'm surprised that more countries aren't interested in possessing nuclear weapons.Aug 07 20:15
DaemonFC[m]At least a few, to use as a last resort. Aug 07 20:15
DaemonFC[m]Between the US, Russia, and China carving up the world, you'd think that countries would at least want the ability to do something.Aug 07 20:16
DaemonFC[m]North Korea and Iran certainly do.Aug 07 20:16
DaemonFC[m]Trump's "maximum pressure" campaign against Iran pretty much just gives them nothing to lose by continuing the research and enrichment.Aug 07 20:17
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DaemonFC[m]He's put maximum pressure on them to speed up their program.Aug 07 20:17
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Ever since I got a look at those employees in the Walmart deli wearing their face masks under their noses, I stopped buying lunch meat sliced there and went to pre-packaged containers only.Aug 07 20:19
DaemonFC[m]It really sucks that we have the most expensive governments that money can buy and more than half a year in, they claim they still don't know much about the virus.Aug 07 20:19
DaemonFC[m]So the safe assumption is that it's damned hard to kill and can survive for days on anything at most temperatures.Aug 07 20:20
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Voters in Missouri did a really smart thing, actually.Aug 07 20:23
DaemonFC[m]They trapped their state government with Medicaid expansion by making it mandatory in the state constitution.Aug 07 20:23
DaemonFC[m]Another clause says the state legislature cannot implement any restrictions on Medicaid eligibility that did not exist before the amendment was passed.Aug 07 20:24
DaemonFC[m]Another one requires every state agency to do anything that is necessary to enact the expansion as outlined in the first clause.Aug 07 20:24
DaemonFC[m]Estimates are 240,000 more people will get Medicaid coverage through the amendment.Aug 07 20:26
DaemonFC[m]The federal government has to fun it because that's the law.Aug 07 20:26
DaemonFC[m]*fundAug 07 20:27
DaemonFC[m]So now there's, I think, 40 states that have expanded Medicaid, and DC.Aug 07 20:27
DaemonFC[m]The Supreme Court ruling was designed so that red states would just opt out and sabotage the national healthcare system.Aug 07 20:27
DaemonFC[m]In practice, it hasn't been that easy to keep out.Aug 07 20:28
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: "Reboot the Free Software Movement."Aug 07 20:29
DaemonFC[m]You mean replace the FSF with something that hasn't been hijacked by tech companies.Aug 07 20:30
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DaemonFC[m]Difficult. Richard Stallman spent decades demanding copyright assignment so that authors wouldn't be able to individually defend their GPL rights, and now that the hijacking has taken place, the FSF will use those assignments to make sure those lawsuits against GPL violators don't happen.Aug 07 20:31
DaemonFC[m]It's no wonder that Microsoft isn't afraid to "Convey" GPL 3 software anymore.Aug 07 20:31
DaemonFC[m]How did they corrupt the FSF? Well, at the risk of repeating that Spongebob meme, "I like money!".Aug 07 20:32
DaemonFC[m]They pulled out their pocketbooks and just bought off the FSF until it was as contaminated as the "Linux" Foundation.Aug 07 20:33
DaemonFC[m]It's likely that as new threats to our computing emerge, the FSF won't even consider new licenses that deal with those. Aug 07 20:33
DaemonFC[m]The GCC isn't even what it used to be. It's been picking up so many bugs that it hardly seems to matter how many they close.Aug 07 20:34
DaemonFC[m]Full of internal compiler errors, bizarre interpretations that end up in compiled code, etc. Seems Linux distributions are starting to move away from it.Aug 07 20:35
DaemonFC[m]Ubuntu is building Firefox with Clang and in practice I'd say the only difference I noticed is that the compiled code got much smaller.Aug 07 20:35
MinceR07 211527 < DaemonFC[m]> MinceR: I'm surprised that more countries aren't interested in possessing nuclear weapons.Aug 07 20:36
MinceRsameAug 07 20:36
MinceRespecially since russia violated the Budapest Memorandum and started pushing people around with nuclear threatsAug 07 20:37
MinceR(and yet somehow moscow still wasn't converted into a massive glass crater...)Aug 07 20:37
DaemonFC[m]It's a race to see whether the US or Russia can find excuses to walk away from all of the arms reductions treaties.Aug 07 20:37
DaemonFC[m]This is very bad. Aug 07 20:37
DaemonFC[m]Trump is walking away from treaties he doesn't like and claiming non-compliance on the Russian end, with no evidence.Aug 07 20:38
DaemonFC[m]If they aren't complying, that's one thing, but with no evidence it's unclear as to whether this is the case or not.Aug 07 20:38
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DaemonFC[m]My probation expired. I assume. The court computer should reflect that by tomorrow.Aug 07 21:02
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MinceR:)Aug 07 21:09
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XRevan86oiaohm: I am not aware of PHP having loadable bytecode.Aug 07 21:30
DaemonFC[m]Walmart keeps slipping me free laundry detergent samples.Aug 07 21:32
DaemonFC[m]There is a reason I'm not using laundry pods already.Aug 07 21:33
DaemonFC[m]They cost about three times as much to do a load and they're pretty stupid really when you think about it.Aug 07 21:33
DaemonFC[m]If you were paying $50 a year for Tide liquid, the pods will increase that to $150-ish.Aug 07 21:33
DaemonFC[m]So you're squandering another $100 per year to do the same laundry with the same results.Aug 07 21:34
DaemonFC[m]Then, in exchange for making it super cheap for them to produce detergent, they stick you with a nice fat price per load hike. Aug 07 21:35
DaemonFC[m]Now they have this ridiculous thing they gave me a sample of called "Tide pods for large loads", and a large load has always been a standard washing machine drum filled to the top.Aug 07 21:36
DaemonFC[m]If you read the normal pod package, it says use two.Aug 07 21:37
DaemonFC[m]So if they're nearly 40 cents apiece, you either spend 80 cents on detergent for a load of laundry or none of your clothes get clean enough.Aug 07 21:37
DaemonFC[m]If you measure out the liquid or powder to the appropriate line, you should be able to do a full standard drum of laundry with about 26 cents worth of detergent. Aug 07 21:38
DaemonFC[m]It's a scam to sneak a huge price increase on people.Aug 07 21:38
DaemonFC[m]They're giving out free samples because people mind their spending more during recessions and I'm certain that's giving them a hard time.Aug 07 21:39
scientesPHP is so friggen insaneAug 07 21:45
scientesit should be called PCPAug 07 21:45
MinceR:>Aug 07 21:48
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DaemonFC[m]<scientes "it should be called PCP"> He was probably high on PCP and broke every bone in his arm. Wouldn't feel it for hours. There was this guy, once....Aug 07 21:58
DaemonFC[m](Terminator)Aug 07 21:58
DaemonFC[m]The police were explaining that he was probably some freak that was on PCP wearing a bulletproof vest. Aug 07 21:59
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: The T-850 was a necessary plot element of Terminator 3. Aug 07 22:00
DaemonFC[m]Explaining how it could sustain the T-X plasma weapon at close range and multiple hits from the T-1's miniguns. Aug 07 22:01
DaemonFC[m]The T-800 in the first movie was knocked over and temporarily stunned by shotgun fire.Aug 07 22:02
DaemonFC[m]The 850 was an uparmored T-800 that apparently also had a software upgrade. Aug 07 22:03
DaemonFC[m]It displayed limited emotions and a more detailed understanding of human psychology than its predecessors in read-only mode.Aug 07 22:03
DaemonFC[m]Of course, it's possible that someone set it to read-write before sending it back.Aug 07 22:04
DaemonFC[m]In read-only mode, it never would have applied the phrase "talk to the hand" to the clerk at the gas station. Aug 07 22:04
DaemonFC[m]It was also visibly annoyed that it went to put on the sunglasses it found in the male stripper's front vest pocket and they looked like something that Elton John would wear, so it intentionally throws them on the ground and crushes them. Aug 07 22:05
DaemonFC[m]It was also annoyed by Kate Brewster screaming in the back of the truck. It said "Relax..." and then when she continued to scream, it shouted "RELAX!".Aug 07 22:06
DaemonFC[m]The psychological profile that it had on humans, was not as developed as the T-888 from TSCC, however. Aug 07 22:07
DaemonFC[m]One of them impersonated its replacement target well enough to carry on a functioning marriage for a year and a half, but the T-850 said it didn't have any files pertaining to human pair bonding.Aug 07 22:08
DaemonFC[m]That seems like an odd gap if you were correct, MinceR . The T-800 can control liquid metal because the software was laying around, but it doesn't have files detailed enough for long term infiltration involving a long term (presumably) sexual relationship. Aug 07 22:09
MinceRmaybe the latter needs a lot more storage space :>Aug 07 22:10
DaemonFC[m]I think that was the rationale behind the joke in Dark Fate, where Sarah Connor says "She hasn't noticed that you weigh 400 pounds, never sleep, never eat, and have a shitload of guns and explosives.". or something like that.Aug 07 22:10
DaemonFC[m]She asked it why it would hoard massive stockpiles of weapons if Skynet was erased from the future and it was left as an anomaly of a deleted timeline.Aug 07 22:11
DaemonFC[m]It explained that there was a significant chance of human society falling apart on its own even without a malignant AI, and that "It's Texas.".Aug 07 22:12
DaemonFC[m]It still seemed to be following some default programming of some sort, however.Aug 07 22:13
DaemonFC[m]It realized what happened and decided to go into long term infiltration mode. The family it adopted helped its disguise. Aug 07 22:14
DaemonFC[m]You'd think that Skynet would do better work.Aug 07 22:15
DaemonFC[m]Like, oh I don't know. "If you stop getting new orders from the future for this amount of time, go tell the humans all about yourself so there will be another Skynet creation paradox.".Aug 07 22:15
DaemonFC[m]<MinceR "maybe the latter needs a lot mor"> Undefined behavior leads to time travel. Aug 07 22:16
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Two more people entered the laundry room while I was in there. Neither one wearing a mask.Aug 07 22:18
DaemonFC[m]Stands there right next to me screwing around with a vending machine trying to get some overpriced chips and Mountain Dew out of it.Aug 07 22:18
DaemonFC[m]Why do I wear a complex multi-layered mask setup? That's why.Aug 07 22:19
DaemonFC[m]Save a life. Be aware. Idiots are everywhere. Aug 07 22:19
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DaemonFC[m]MinceR: I saw bumper stickers that said "Save a life. Be aware. Motorcycles are everywhere.".Aug 07 22:20
DaemonFC[m]I was like "Motorcycles are like the pinnacle of toxic masculinity.".Aug 07 22:20
DaemonFC[m]"If they don't value their own life, why should you be liable for their serious injuries when they chose to ride around on something with no protection for the driver?"Aug 07 22:20
DaemonFC[m]It's always some fat bald guy riding around on one too.Aug 07 22:21
DaemonFC[m]Before he died of a heart attack, his last Facebook posting being angry about someone kneeling for the national anthem, mom's ex-husband Brian bought a motorcycle.Aug 07 22:22
DaemonFC[m]It's a midlife (or later) crisis.Aug 07 22:23
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MinceR07 231541 < DaemonFC[m]> Like, oh I don't know. "If you stop getting new orders from the future for this amount of time, go tell the humans all about yourself so there will be another Skynet creation paradox.".Aug 07 22:23
MinceRpresumably they had other units doing thatAug 07 22:24
MinceRit would be useful to also have some that lay hidden :>Aug 07 22:24
DaemonFC[m]It said it developed feelings of regret over successfully completing its mission, but that could have been compounded by the fact that it continued to exist without purpose in a timeline where Skynet would never happen.Aug 07 22:26
schestowitz[20:19] <DaemonFC[m]> schestowitz: Ever since I got a look at those employees in the Walmart deli wearing their face masks under their noses, I stopped buying lunch meat sliced there and went to pre-packaged containers only.Aug 07 22:27
DaemonFC[m]It chose to help them fight the Rev-9. Possible real motive being that it needed to make sure Legion didn't happen so that other Terminators could make sure Skynet was created instead.Aug 07 22:27
schestowitzThe people who package these might not wear a mask eitherAug 07 22:27
schestowitzand if it is not frozen, the virus can still be aliveAug 07 22:27
DaemonFC[m]Would make an interesting next movie, but since the box office take was bad...Aug 07 22:27
schestowitz[22:18] <DaemonFC[m]> schestowitz: Two more people entered the laundry room while I was in there. Neither one wearing a mask.Aug 07 22:28
schestowitzYou can complain to themAug 07 22:28
schestowitzthey spread their salivaAug 07 22:28
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, that's how you get shot, or mugged.Aug 07 22:28
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DaemonFC[m]Or at least an attempted ***** moment. Aug 07 22:28
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Like I said earlier. The only safe assumption is that some asshole walks in not wearing a mask, or wearing it under their nose if they do.Aug 07 22:37
DaemonFC[m]I got a bunch of those food service grade gloves really cheap and those are good enough for pressing a few buttons on the laundry machines and then tossing them in the trash, or a gas pump, or a credit card terminal.Aug 07 22:39
DaemonFC[m]Nobody has set up their point of sale systems to require less touching than they did before the pandemic began.Aug 07 22:39
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DaemonFC[m]The drug store has a gallon sized bottle of hand sanitizer sitting next to them though.Aug 07 22:40
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: The state of Illinois itself says that black people are getting more than 40% of the cases.Aug 07 22:41
DaemonFC[m]I believe it. They're the only ones around here that I've seen just flat out refuse to wear a mask.Aug 07 22:41
DaemonFC[m]If they're pulling guns on people and shooting people for asking, maybe it's just a better idea to leave them alone, protect yourself, and let them do what they will.Aug 07 22:42
schestowitzIllinois has like 20% black people, no?Aug 07 22:42
DaemonFC[m]Ron White said "You can't fix stupid. Stupid is forever.".Aug 07 22:42
DaemonFC[m]You have to get out of its way.Aug 07 22:43
schestowitzremember there is the aspect of povertyAug 07 22:43
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: 14.5%Aug 07 22:43
schestowitzsocial distancing is harder when you come from a poor backgroundAug 07 22:43
schestowitzsanitary things alsoAug 07 22:43
DaemonFC[m]So 14.5% is getting 44% of the confirmed cases in Illinois.Aug 07 22:44
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: ok, so a bit higher than nationwide averageAug 07 22:44
DaemonFC[m]The groups that seem to be faring best is white and asian people.Aug 07 22:44
schestowitzmaybe a more meaningful breakdown would talk of household incomeAug 07 22:44
schestowitznot raceAug 07 22:44
DaemonFC[m]Hispanic/Latino people have about the same share as their percentage of the population.Aug 07 22:45
DaemonFC[m]So white and asian people make up about 70% of the population and are getting under half the total cases of COVID-19.Aug 07 22:46
DaemonFC[m]Let's see if I can pull up Lake County.Aug 07 22:46
schestowitzbut correlate this with incomeAug 07 22:47
schestowitzdensity inside householdAug 07 22:47
schestowitzsome people share homes with other tenantsAug 07 22:47
schestowitzso it spreads fasterAug 07 22:47
schestowitzand there's not much they can do about itAug 07 22:47
schestowitzshared rooms and all, sometimes also more babies aroundAug 07 22:47
schestowitzso you might be missing the real cause/factorAug 07 22:47
DaemonFC[m]https://covid19response-lakecountyil.hub.arcgis.comAug 07 22:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-covid19response-lakecountyil.hub.arcgis.com | Lake County, IL Coronavirus Data HubAug 07 22:48
DaemonFC[m]The data would seem to indicate that probably half of Waukegan's population has had the virus already.Aug 07 22:49
DaemonFC[m]Doesn't surprise me.Aug 07 22:49
schestowitzwowAug 07 22:50
DaemonFC[m]The way these people act, there's absolutely nothing slowing it down.Aug 07 22:50
schestowitzf*Aug 07 22:50
schestowitzreally bad, when did you last get tested?Aug 07 22:50
schestowitziirc, this is where you areAug 07 22:50
DaemonFC[m]End of May.Aug 07 22:50
schestowitzhere it's like one in 2000 confirmedAug 07 22:50
schestowitzwith maybe 1% in real terms, including untestedAug 07 22:50
schestowitzinc. recoveriesAug 07 22:50
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Waukegan population is about 87,000.Aug 07 22:50
schestowitztoday we had 871 cases confirmedAug 07 22:51
schestowitznew onesAug 07 22:51
DaemonFC[m]3,294 confirmed tests.Aug 07 22:51
schestowitzspain 4,500+Aug 07 22:51
schestowitzspain is losing control againAug 07 22:51
schestowitzgermany 1100Aug 07 22:51
DaemonFC[m]So CDC says we're seeing about 10% of what's out there.Aug 07 22:51
schestowitzfrance about 2.5kAug 07 22:51
DaemonFC[m]So assume roughly 33,000 of the 87,000 people in Waukegan have or have had it.Aug 07 22:51
schestowitzitaly 500+Aug 07 22:51
DaemonFC[m]Population of Fox Lake, 10,000. Almost all low income white.Aug 07 22:52
DaemonFC[m]Confirmed tests: 89Aug 07 22:52
DaemonFC[m]So about 900 probably counting asymptomatic/other untested.Aug 07 22:53
DaemonFC[m]So about 9% of Fox Lake has had the Coronavirus and about 38% of Waukegan (black and hispanic, low income) has had it.Aug 07 22:54
DaemonFC[m]Same county. So low income white: 9%. Low income black and brown: 38%.Aug 07 22:54
DaemonFC[m]It spread through Waukegan four times faster than it spread through Fox Lake, Volo, or McHenry. Aug 07 22:55
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I told you, it's not racist. It's just what's happening.Aug 07 22:55
DaemonFC[m]White people are taking it seriously, and a lot of black people don't.Aug 07 22:55
DaemonFC[m]I called Corporate for Walmart and complained about employees not wearing masks a while back.Aug 07 22:56
DaemonFC[m]Someone from Corporate got after them and everyone had their masks on 2 days later.Aug 07 22:56
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Relative to its size? I'm living somewhere that got hit harder than New York City did.Aug 07 22:57
DaemonFC[m]Waukegan has about 1% of the population of New York City.Aug 07 22:57
DaemonFC[m]But more people here have had the virus, per capita.Aug 07 22:57
DaemonFC[m]I think the big slowdown in Lake County is that the black people in Waukegan/North Chicago didn't do anything to protect themselves and reached herd immunity faster than the rest of the county.Aug 07 22:59
schestowitzit's good that you phoned themAug 07 23:00
schestowitzworkers there breathe on a lot of things and touch iteamsAug 07 23:00
schestowitz*itemsAug 07 23:00
schestowitzso it's a covid distribution vectorsAug 07 23:00
DaemonFC[m]It's the only place a lot of people shop at.Aug 07 23:00
schestowitzsafety of clients, not just their staffAug 07 23:00
DaemonFC[m]I realized that it could spread out for miles in all directions causing a massive outbreak.Aug 07 23:00
schestowitzCOVMartAug 07 23:01
schestowitzAbout a quarter of our population was tstedAug 07 23:01
DaemonFC[m]The deaths in Lake County hit 400 rapidly and have only slowly increased since then.Aug 07 23:02
DaemonFC[m]1 or 2 a day for the last month.Aug 07 23:02
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DaemonFC[m]I might start using the saute function on my instant pot to make my own evaporated milk.Aug 07 23:17
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DaemonFC[m]98 cents a can, but you can just boil two cups of regular for 10 minutes and same thing.Aug 07 23:17
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: We're adding about 90 confirmed cases per day right now in Lake County according to the health department.Aug 07 23:19
DaemonFC[m]So probably 900 actual cases.Aug 07 23:20
DaemonFC[m]In June it hit a low point of like 20-30 confirmed per day.Aug 07 23:20
DaemonFC[m]So the daily count has tripled from its last low point.Aug 07 23:21
DaemonFC[m]Out of 427 confirmed deaths, less than 15 in people under 40.Aug 07 23:23
DaemonFC[m]Even though that's where the bulk of the confirmed cases are.Aug 07 23:23
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: ^Aug 07 23:26
DaemonFC[m]According to this, it's actually Hispanic people in Lake County that have been hit the hardest.Aug 07 23:27
DaemonFC[m]COVID-19 is about 3 times as prevalent among blacks and about 7 times as prevalent among Hispanics as it is among white residents in Lake County, IL.Aug 07 23:28
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: John was pretty open about his racism against black people.Aug 07 23:30
DaemonFC[m]He'd say things like "Don't get too close. Failure is contagious.Aug 07 23:30
DaemonFC[m]Of course, he's Hispanic. Aug 07 23:30
DaemonFC[m]When this whole court thing started I was still living with him and I drove up to Waukegan to meet with my defense attorney, and I got back and John was like "So what is Waukegan like?". I said, "A Mexican ghetto, basically.".Aug 07 23:32
DaemonFC[m]Despite the statement, I actually have more respect for them than a lot of white people.Aug 07 23:33
DaemonFC[m]Strong work ethic, most of them try to stay out of trouble, they take care of their family. Aug 07 23:34
DaemonFC[m]Generally speaking, I'd say we could use more of those qualities. Aug 07 23:34
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: John was talking about how Asian people had the highest level of education and lowest level of criminality in the US.Aug 07 23:35
DaemonFC[m]I said, "Yeah, we have to have Asian people because they make white people look like black people.".Aug 07 23:35
DaemonFC[m]It's not that there aren't a bunch of stupid poor white people that aren't getting arrested a lot.Aug 07 23:36
DaemonFC[m]It's that whatever mess you get into, you're the majority race and so either the judge or the jury is more likely to go soft on you, or the prosecutor won't want it as badly because they don't smell blood in the water.Aug 07 23:36
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DaemonFC[m]So you basically start out three moves ahead of where you would be with the same criminal charge or resume or whatever if you were black.Aug 07 23:37
DaemonFC[m]I'm not denying that there's white privilege, but I've rarely seen anyone (including myself) willingly give it up.Aug 07 23:37
DaemonFC[m]I mean, I could have gone in to talk to the judge with my underwear hanging out of my pants. Would have been my funeral.Aug 07 23:38
DaemonFC[m]I wonder when some of these people will finally figure that out.Aug 07 23:38
DaemonFC[m]The white version of going to court with your underwear hanging out isn't quite as bad.Aug 07 23:39
DaemonFC[m]White people will at least go to court wearing their pajamas with their ass on the correct side of the pants.Aug 07 23:39
DaemonFC[m]Usually.Aug 07 23:39
DaemonFC[m]Having your ass hanging out of your pants started as a prison thing. You know, prison rape. Aug 07 23:40
DaemonFC[m]I'm like "Wait a minute. You're saying you're a big bad tough guy who is looking to be dominated in the shower? You're sending mixed messages there buddy.".Aug 07 23:41
schestowitzI thought it was an urban legendAug 07 23:41
DaemonFC[m]Nope.Aug 07 23:41
schestowitzno beltsAug 07 23:42
schestowitzhence the pants are hard to hold upon the loinAug 07 23:42
DaemonFC[m]They made me wear a jail jumpsuit for about 6 hours because John told them I have bipolar disorder and might try to kill myself in the cell.Aug 07 23:43
DaemonFC[m]So they had me on suicide watch.Aug 07 23:43
schestowitz180 deaths in TX and FLAug 07 23:43
schestowitzlol, you in a jumpsuitAug 07 23:43
schestowitzslim shadyAug 07 23:43
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, bright orange even.Aug 07 23:43
schestowitzhe's not so brightAug 07 23:44
schestowitzwell...Aug 07 23:44
schestowitzhe paid someone to sit SATs for himAug 07 23:44
schestowitzwhat kind of crime is THAT?Aug 07 23:44
DaemonFC[m]Huh?Aug 07 23:44
DaemonFC[m]John?Aug 07 23:44
schestowitzjokeAug 07 23:44
DaemonFC[m]No my mom had my dad cheat on an employment test for her because she didn't understand the math questions.Aug 07 23:44
schestowitzMary Trump's bookAug 07 23:44
schestowitzyou mentioned the colour of the outfitAug 07 23:45
DaemonFC[m]Nobody noticed and they hired her.Aug 07 23:45
schestowitzI spun that as Mr. Anusmouth OrangeAug 07 23:45
DaemonFC[m]Orange is the New BlackAug 07 23:45
schestowitzBiden might be the new OrangeAug 07 23:45
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: If they were trying to send me to prison for something  I'd hurry up and change my legal gender to female. Aug 07 23:46
DaemonFC[m]Force the prosecutor to choose between sending a guy to womens prison, or putting me on house arrest.Aug 07 23:47
schestowitzthat's the opportunist trandAug 07 23:47
schestowitz*transAug 07 23:47
schestowitzi used to think thatAug 07 23:48
DaemonFC[m]When SJWs take over the state....Aug 07 23:48
schestowitz1) trans makes sense for birth/development issuesAug 07 23:48
DaemonFC[m]There's people doing it over car insurance.Aug 07 23:48
schestowitzlike people who had accidents in the genital/reproductive area or at birth (embryo)Aug 07 23:48
DaemonFC[m]You think I won't use it as a legal strategy?Aug 07 23:48
schestowitzthen it became something like a "reset" button for someAug 07 23:48
schestowitzstarting overAug 07 23:49
schestowitz2) people who genuinely want to be the other genderAug 07 23:49
schestowitzwhat you describe is neitherAug 07 23:49
schestowitzthe opportunism distracts from the other 2Aug 07 23:49
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I signaled to the state that there would be a mental disease or defect defense coming if it went to court.Aug 07 23:49
schestowitzlike people who pretend to be disabledAug 07 23:49
schestowitzfeminism is also hijacked by bad actorsAug 07 23:50
schestowitzboth female and male/corporateAug 07 23:50
DaemonFC[m]On top of that, I went on a disinformation campaign to make John think I was living with a doctor that I met and the car payments would go in unless anything happened to me..Aug 07 23:50
schestowitzlet's change subjectAug 07 23:50
schestowitzback to tech, pleaseAug 07 23:50
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: War strategy.Aug 07 23:51
DaemonFC[m]Confusing the other side is very important.Aug 07 23:51
DaemonFC[m]Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt isn't just for software.Aug 07 23:52
DaemonFC[m]You need to confuse the other side and their customers, scare the customers away.Aug 07 23:52
DaemonFC[m]Microsoft and IBM did this repeatedly, you know.Aug 07 23:53
DaemonFC[m]We have a product that does that in the pipeline (they don't).Aug 07 23:53
DaemonFC[m]The announcement is enough to make the customers scatter and take their money with them and the other company collapses. Didn't cost you anything.Aug 07 23:53
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Well, it worked. Nobody was arguing that I _wasn't_ crazy. John had been trying to play that point up to the cops because he thought it would be hilarious if they had me on suicide watch for a few hours.Aug 07 23:55
DaemonFC[m]I'm sure it made it into the police report that he was "very concerned that I may get depressed in the cell and try to hang myself".Aug 07 23:55
DaemonFC[m]Make lemons out of lemonade. Make the state see a sympathetic defendant where the jury will be too confused to do much. Meanwhile, the witnesses are backpeddling and the state wants to offer a deal that doesn't amount to anything so it doesn't have to go lose.Aug 07 23:56
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: That's the thing about Bill Gates.Aug 07 23:58
DaemonFC[m]He's a High Mach.Aug 07 23:58
DaemonFC[m]That's been the force that he projected that got Microsoft to become a big business.Aug 07 23:58
schestowitz[23:55] <DaemonFC[m]> schestowitz: Well, it worked. Nobody was arguing that I _wasn't_ crazy. John had been trying to play that point up to the cops because he thought it would be hilarious if they had me on suicide watch for a few hours.Aug 07 23:59
schestowitztry to not interject personal lifeAug 07 23:59
schestowitzfocus on the issuesAug 07 23:59

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