●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, October 07, 2022 ●● ● Oct 07 [00:00] highest_cubist_thrills when he called them transphopbic monkeys <- youre in rare form today, even for you [00:00] schestowitz[TR] g WIndow Snyder wa s poser [00:00] schestowitz[TR] who praised Microsof [00:00] schestowitz[TR] tthe NSA company [00:00] schestowitz[TR] using her Moziulla hat [00:00] highest_cubist_thrills prasing microsoft IS a bad sign yes [00:00] schestowitz[TR] what an embarrassment that waspriaising former emploloyyerl [00:00] schestowitz[TR] leikt it was ecurity role model [00:01] schestowitz[TR] while it was owkring with NSA [00:01] schestowitz[TR] maybe theyd din't even tell her LOL [00:01] DaemonFC Microsoft's only work on IE for nearly a decade was a pop-up blocker and browser tabs. Same old shit underneath. [00:01] highest_cubist_thrills i mean when sec experts, or as i like to call them, secxperts, praise microsoft its a bad sign [00:01] schestowitz[TR] but don't worry [00:01] DaemonFC And they wondered why that didn't solve the problems of their users fleeing. [00:01] highest_cubist_thrills theyre dying? [00:01] schestowitz[TR] now we have war criminals doing CSO role for Mozilkla [00:01] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [00:01] schestowitz[TR] g WIndow Snyder [00:01] schestowitz[TR] http://techrights.org/2022/09/10/mozilla-three-letter-agencies/ [00:01] highest_cubist_thrills now we have war criminals doing CSO role for Mozilkla <- gotta keep up with nazibm [00:01] TR Bot Mozilla Hired Top-Level Managers Directly From the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), Can They Be Trusted on Privacy? | Techrights [00:01] schestowitz[TR] http://techrights.org/2008/12/11/window-snyder-out/ [00:01] TR Bot Quick Mention: Mozilla Detoxicated from Microsoft Influence | Techrights [00:01] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR]: I've migrated almost everything over to SeaMonkey. [00:02] DaemonFC There's some sites it won't run, but I started using nheko for Matrix chats. [00:02] schestowitz[TR] http://techrights.org/2008/12/11/window-snyder-out/" [00:02] DaemonFC And I pay my electric bill with GNOME Web. [00:02] schestowitz[TR] "Windows and that those who flatter Windows for security are often tied to Microsoft (Window Snyder is just one example). [00:02] schestowitz[TR] " [00:02] schestowitz[TR] http://techrights.org/2010/04/01/skepticism-research/ [00:02] DaemonFC So I mean, those are corner cases. [00:02] TR Bot Eye on Security: Windows Malware, Emergency Patches, and BeyondTrusts CEO from Microsoft | Techrights [00:02] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [00:02] schestowitz[TR] "Window Snyder's first day at Apple was Monday, according to PC World." [00:02] DaemonFC Fucking "Web3" garbage. [00:02] schestowitz[TR] http://techrights.org/2010/03/10/win-botnets-a-lost-cause/ [00:02] highest_cubist_thrills has mjg praised anything microsoft other than suckyour boot? [00:02] *eidolon has quit (Quit: bye) [00:02] TR Bot Microsoft and Insecurity: Vulnerabilities, Botnets, and a Whole Lot of Nerve | Techrights [00:02] schestowitz[TR] Apple invaded, too [00:04] DaemonFC Most Web browser attack surface is JavaScript. [00:04] DaemonFC Turn it off. [00:04] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: they use github [00:04] schestowitz[TR] what better badge of endorsement do you need? [00:04] DaemonFC SeaMonkey is using Gitlab. [00:04] schestowitz[TR] some free software award winner [00:04] schestowitz[TR] uses github [00:04] schestowitz[TR] to cancel the founder of free software [00:04] schestowitz[TR] by using thaat microsoft platform to DEFAME him [00:05] DaemonFC SeaMonkey development is pretty slow, tbh. [00:05] highest_cubist_thrills uses github <- before he used github he used lieplanet fwiw [00:05] DaemonFC The Web platform updates tend to be pretty minor, but it's happening while 2.57 is under active development. [00:05] schestowitz[TR] All modern [sic] browsers are pretty slow, tbh [00:05] DaemonFC So a lot of this is just keeping 2.53 updated enough to work. [00:05] schestowitz[TR] they are CPU core hogs [00:06] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR]: A bunch of dead GUI code I pointed out recently got purged. [00:06] DaemonFC The GUI is looking a lot better now without references to AOL Messenger and plug-ins and stuff. [00:06] highest_cubist_thrills ram too [00:06] DaemonFC There was a surprising amount of code around in the Suite for an AIM button. [00:07] MinceR > the implication being that if you study biology you cant become knowledgeable in othr fields [00:07] MinceR hopefully not [00:07] DaemonFC That was only ever in there because AOL owned Netscape and Mozilla 20 years ago. [00:07] highest_cubist_thrills then again its easier to get crazy amounts of ram than crazy amounts of cpu [00:07] MinceR 07 005809 < DaemonFC> Is that the one where you sign up to be a transformerphobe or a SJW with a Reddit (child porn dump) hat on? [00:07] MinceR could be a transmissionphobe [00:07] DaemonFC AIM has been totally dead and gone for 5 years and isn't coming back. [00:07] DaemonFC Removing that code has been a long time overdue. [00:07] highest_cubist_thrills /me isnt terribly impressed with mjg on security anyway [00:07] highest_cubist_thrills imo he gets spanked regularly by leah and probably ariadne [00:08] highest_cubist_thrills but i think he and ariadne are closer (not necessarily where its unreasonable btw) on crypto [00:08] highest_cubist_thrills where leah can spank him on firmware [00:08] MinceR 07 010108 < DaemonFC> Microsoft's only work on IE for nearly a decade was a pop-up blocker and browser tabs. Same old shit underneath. [00:08] highest_cubist_thrills so its not the same thing [00:08] MinceR oh, i remember ie "loading" a new, empty tab for minutes every time one was created [00:09] MinceR 07 010740 < highest_cubist_thrills> /me isnt terribly impressed with mjg on security anyway [00:09] highest_cubist_thrills and i dont think of ariadne as a sec guru (unless she is one, but then shes never mentioned it) only a developer who takes that stuff seriously (which is probably the best kind of dev ofc) [00:09] MinceR praising MICROS~1 snake oil is a dead giveaway [00:09] highest_cubist_thrills praising MICROS~1 snake oil is a dead giveaway <- of course it is. thats why i asked if hes praised anything other than suckyour boot [00:10] MinceR i don't pay enough attention to him to know [00:10] DaemonFC There were "browsers" that were like a Hannibal Lector mask wearing IE's rendering engine. They had tabs and pop-up blockers years before IE. [00:10] highest_cubist_thrills im not interested in getting him off the hook. better imo to keep him on the hooks where he belongs than try to move him to a bunch that wont support his weight [00:10] highest_cubist_thrills i don't pay enough attention to him to know <- neither do i, which is why im asking, but fair enough [00:10] highest_cubist_thrills i go mostly by what i see here [00:11] DaemonFC brb [00:11] schestowitz[TR] pluton BS [00:11] highest_cubist_thrills and just a bit on twitter [00:11] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.14 [SeaMonkey 2.53.14/20221003001100]) [00:11] highest_cubist_thrills pluton BS <- fair point [00:11] schestowitz[TR] what is twitter? [00:11] schestowitz[TR] ahh, nitter [00:11] highest_cubist_thrills its been so long since ive heard pluton [00:11] highest_cubist_thrills ahh, nitter <- yes, i use nitter too [00:11] schestowitz[TR] AMD pushes pluton for Microsot [00:11] schestowitz[TR] slaes down 40% LOL [00:11] highest_cubist_thrills its faster than waiting for shitter to load [00:11] schestowitz[TR] psydruid noticed [00:11] schestowitz[TR] "PLUTON! MAYDAY! PLUTON! MAYDAY! PLUTON! MAYDAY! PLUTON! MAYDAY! "| [00:11] Ariadne i dont know anything about pluton verses other HSMs [00:12] starstreak twitter is awesome [00:12] highest_cubist_thrills /me doesnt trust microsoft anyway [00:12] highest_cubist_thrills twitter is awesome <- youre a dork [00:12] Ariadne i mean that is certainly valid [00:12] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@dsqxm8cmnsrqe.irc) has joined #techrights [00:12] starstreak highest_cubist_thrills, :) [00:12] Ariadne you shouldnt use an HSM from a vendor you dont trust ;) [00:12] techuser there are no trustworthy vendors [00:12] MinceR unfortunately that rules out all of them [00:12] highest_cubist_thrills microsoft is a monopolist. if i need an hsm id rather it be from someone with LESS of a reputation for abusing power [00:13] schestowitz[TR] mozilla lol [00:13] highest_cubist_thrills unfortunately that rules out all of them <- it probably does [00:13] techuser HSMs are user-hostile [00:13] Ariadne i disagree. there are HSMs that have fully FOSS firmware and are written using secure methods [00:13] schestowitz[TR] mozilla, whose cso did in fact attack a country [00:13] schestowitz[TR] to replace its government [00:13] schestowitz[TR] using violence [00:13] techuser HSM is an evil hardware unit by design [00:13] MinceR also if MICROS~1 calls it "security", that automatically makes it suspect [00:13] Ariadne HSMs can be used for user hostile purposes and also for good purposes [00:13] schestowitz[TR] arm smuggling etc. [00:13] schestowitz[TR] mozilla: we are woke!! [00:13] schestowitz[TR] we use CIE GitHub [00:13] schestowitz[TR] *ICE [00:14] schestowitz[TR] we also hire Benghazi coup plotters [00:14] techuser free software doesn't matter for it. We have to deal with malicious hardware. [00:14] schestowitz[TR] mozilla might get so inclusive it;ll start hiring isis operatives [00:14] schestowitz[TR] to balnace things [00:14] MinceR MICROS~1 is the corporation that refers to DRM and vendor lock-in as "security" [00:14] schestowitz[TR] but not "bad actors" [00:14] schestowitz[TR] like CIA agents [00:14] techuser tivoization was an example of malicious hardware [00:14] MinceR and probably the one that has done the most to harm IT security so far [00:14] Ariadne anyway i dont really want to debate the merits of HSMs right now [00:14] Ariadne but they can do a lot more than just enforce DRM [00:15] schestowitz[TR] MinceR: it's always about "securityu' [00:15] schestowitz[TR] governments do the same [00:15] schestowitz[TR] anything anti-user is justified as seurity [00:15] Ariadne i use an HSM to protect techrights infrastructure from offline tampering [00:15] schestowitz[TR] for children [00:15] schestowitz[TR] terror preventiob [00:15] schestowitz[TR] "pirates!;' [00:15] highest_cubist_thrills i use an HSM to protect techrights infrastructure <- :) [00:15] schestowitz[TR] p2p promote terrorism, they say.. [00:15] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [00:16] highest_cubist_thrills /me met someone who worked on the manhattan project [00:16] schestowitz[TR] 150k people workedon it no?> [00:16] highest_cubist_thrills im not sure they can protect us from asteroids, but if they can maybe we should hold onto a few at least [00:16] schestowitz[TR] or at least 100k [00:16] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:16] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:17] highest_cubist_thrills they probably shouldnt be handed out with every mre [00:17] schestowitz[TR] "but grew to employ more than 130,000 people" [00:17] schestowitz[TR] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_Manhattan_Project [00:17] TR Bot Timeline of the Manhattan Project - Wikipedia [00:17] highest_cubist_thrills "one steak, mashed potatoes, pony nuke, one packet of ketchup" [00:17] MinceR family atomics [00:17] schestowitz[TR] "job creators" [00:17] schestowitz[TR] "NUKES!" [00:18] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [00:18] highest_cubist_thrills /me is a scientist at heart [00:18] highest_cubist_thrills but a sceptical one [00:18] MinceR "i am hidden scientist!" [00:18] TR News This tinyML-powered baby swing automatically starts when crying is detected | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/10/06/this-tinyml-powered-baby-swing-automatically-starts-when-crying-is-detected/ Source: Arduino [00:18] TR Bot This tinyML-powered baby swing automatically starts when crying is detected | Arduino Blog [00:19] XRevan86 What's a non-sceptical scientist? A philosopher? [00:19] highest_cubist_thrills "i am hidden scientist!" <- you too [00:19] highest_cubist_thrills the moon isnt even full yet [00:19] MinceR XRevan86: a "christian scientist" [00:19] highest_cubist_thrills What's a non-sceptical scientist? A philosopher? <- a corporate hire [00:19] Ariadne highest_cubist_thrills: i can expand if you want :) [00:19] highest_cubist_thrills theyre all too common [00:19] MinceR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuZV9kkzscg [00:19] TR Bot https://inv.riverside.rocks/watch?v=LuZV9kkzscg [00:19] TR Bot inv.riverside.rocks | Worst Job Interview: Odisha Guy - Invidious [00:19] highest_cubist_thrills highest_cubist_thrills: i can expand if you want <- id love to know which one. but i dont think your position on this is inherently unreasonable [00:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [00:20] TR News Apply Linux Kernel Patches from LKML | Adam Youngs Web Log https://adam.younglogic.com/2022/10/apply-linux-kernel-patches-from-lkml/ Source: Adam Young | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//adam.younglogic.com/2022/10/apply-linux-kernel-patches-from-lkml/ [00:20] TR Bot Apply Linux Kernel Patches from LKML | Adam Young's Web Log [00:20] highest_cubist_thrills there may be a purpose for hsms. thats exactly why i made the point about nukes [00:20] Ariadne on how techrights use an HSM to ensure that remote hands cannot compromise the infrastructure [00:20] highest_cubist_thrills though we could certainly do with fewer... [00:20] highest_cubist_thrills on how techrights use an HSM to ensure that remote hands cannot compromise the infrastructure <- that would be interesting and very possibly educational [00:20] highest_cubist_thrills /me isnt being sarcastic [00:20] Ariadne i think it is a perfectly fine use of an HSM [00:21] highest_cubist_thrills it very possibly is. i wouldnt even know [00:21] Ariadne we use dm-verity [00:21] highest_cubist_thrills is it from microsoft? [00:21] TR News A Technological Analogy gemini://rawtext.club/~ploum/2022-10-07-technological-analogy.gmi "It is a more recent technology and was, at first, just for fun. Theres no direct competition with the older, heavier solution." [00:21] highest_cubist_thrills ibm? [00:21] Ariadne No [00:21] Ariadne its from whatever vendor dell use [00:21] highest_cubist_thrills \o/ [00:21] Ariadne but even if it were pluton i doubt i would care [00:21] highest_cubist_thrills i would care [00:22] highest_cubist_thrills but its not, so its moot [00:22] highest_cubist_thrills i would care <- i mean i would think it was funny [00:22] *techrights-news has quit (Received malformed line) [00:22] Ariadne an HSM is an HSM, it does not have any access to host memory or host CPU [00:22] Ariadne the problems with HSMs are from the decisions of hostile vendors to use them to take away user freedom [00:22] highest_cubist_thrills /me is not a security expert at all [00:22] Ariadne but HSMs themselves are quite useful [00:22] highest_cubist_thrills the problems with HSMs are from the decisions of hostile vendors to use them to take away user freedom <- i think thats the concern yet [00:22] highest_cubist_thrills yes [00:23] Ariadne pluton is probably ok [00:23] Ariadne even if microsoft themselves are dicks [00:23] highest_cubist_thrills fsvo probably [00:23] highest_cubist_thrills imo if it was ok why do they even bother with it :) [00:23] highest_cubist_thrills this is microsoft you know [00:23] highest_cubist_thrills what are they even going to do with "ok" [00:23] Ariadne because they wanted to have the HSM do more stuff, like TLS acceleration [00:23] highest_cubist_thrills "we take ok and upgrade it into fucking evil" [00:23] highest_cubist_thrills "its what we do" [00:23] MinceR considering that pluton is supposed to be a TPM replacement, it probably supports DRM and remote attestation [00:24] highest_cubist_thrills TLS acceleration <- fair enough [00:24] MinceR i'm not really comfortable with giving money for such a device [00:24] Ariadne i mean any HSM can be used for DRM [00:24] highest_cubist_thrills later when it turns into skynet ill say i told you so (i think theres very little chance of this) [00:24] MinceR do they all come with an Endorsement Key? [00:24] highest_cubist_thrills i mean any HSM can be used for DRM <- that doesnt sit well with me [00:24] highest_cubist_thrills but it depends what you mean [00:24] highest_cubist_thrills i mean, any "crypto" can be used for drm and im not against crypto [00:24] Ariadne i mean no, most come blank ;) [00:24] MinceR :> [00:25] Ariadne but even still the TPM spec which pluton supports allows unenrolling all keys [00:25] highest_cubist_thrills drm is basically ransomware. its just more targeted (except for sonys) [00:25] schestowitz "Many people say that Gemini is decentralized. [00:25] schestowitz " It's not and people who say that don't grasp gemini, decentralisation, or both gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1146 [00:25] Ariadne yes i agree DRM sucks [00:25] Ariadne this isnt a conversation about DRM [00:25] *techrights-news (~techrights-news@ngvjyiryrrbba.irc) has joined #techrights [00:25] TR News (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/today_s_howtos.3.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/today_s_howtos.3.gmi [00:25] TR Bot Tux Machines today's howtos [00:25] highest_cubist_thrills you mentioned drm first [00:25] Ariadne DRM is the result of taking a technology and abusing it [00:25] TR News (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/today_s_howtos.3.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/today_s_howtos.3.gmi [00:25] highest_cubist_thrills DRM is the result of taking a technology and abusing it <- agreed [00:25] MinceR it's a conversation about DRM devices MICROS~1 promotes with the word "security" :> [00:26] highest_cubist_thrills "It's not" <- it is as decentralised as the web is. [00:26] Ariadne i dont think that HSMs should be knocked because of DRM. self destructing on tamper key storage is useful [00:26] highest_cubist_thrills and the web is not decentralised enough. [00:26] schestowitz[TR] microsoft <3 NSA [00:26] schestowitz[TR] NSA <3 back doors [00:26] highest_cubist_thrills i dont think that HSMs should be knocked because of DRM <- maybe youre right [00:27] schestowitz[TR] it's connected to "secure [sic] core" [00:27] highest_cubist_thrills though i wont go as far as defending microsofts further entrance to consumer hardware based on "#notallhsms" [00:27] schestowitz[TR] it ties in together [00:27] schestowitz[TR] vendor lockin [00:27] schestowitz[TR] and Lessened Security [00:27] MinceR which of them can do anything on tampering anyway? [00:27] highest_cubist_thrills which is a position i doubt youll knock very hard [00:27] schestowitz[TR] disguised as "security" [00:27] MinceR i know typical TPMs can't [00:27] schestowitz[TR] they can remoately brick machines [00:27] schestowitz[TR] wait, it'll happen [00:27] highest_cubist_thrills i know typical TPMs can't <- but tpm is your grandmothers hsm though [00:27] MinceR yeah [00:27] Ariadne the newer ones are built in a way where if they are exposed to heat to desolder the chip it just kills the chip [00:28] MinceR ic [00:28] highest_cubist_thrills they can remoately brick machines <- how true is this ariadne [00:28] MinceR what if i cut the mainboard and then decap the chip? [00:28] *eidolon (~eidolon@f6kehdj2447n8.irc) has joined #techrights [00:28] schestowitz[TR] germany found this out [00:28] highest_cubist_thrills what if i cut the mainboard and then decap the chip <- what if he has a pointed stick? [00:28] Ariadne it has to do with how the package itself is fabricated [00:28] Ariadne they are intentionally fragile [00:28] MinceR i don't particularly mind having a bit of PCB under the legs of the package :> [00:29] Ariadne but yes if you cut out a pcb :) [00:29] highest_cubist_thrills they are intentionally fragile <- like lieplanet [00:29] highest_cubist_thrills /me couldnt resist [00:29] TR News "Our thoughts on IBM slicing up more of Red Hat, what stands out in Nextcloud Hub 3, and a few essential fixes finally landing in the Linux kernel." https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/show/linux-action-news/261/ [00:29] TR Bot Linux Action News 261 | Jupiter Broadcasting [00:30] Ariadne as for remote bricking, that depends on a lot of variables [00:30] schestowitz[TR] it already happened [00:30] Ariadne for example, on new macs, the storage is encrypted, and the key is in the HSM [00:30] schestowitz[TR] "accidentally" [00:30] schestowitz[TR] gn, too tired... [00:31] Ariadne those macs have firmware features outside the TPM which facilitate a remote brick [00:31] Ariadne so basically it comes down to firmware [00:31] Ariadne you can implement this or not [00:31] highest_cubist_thrills as for remote bricking, that depends on a lot of variables so basically it comes down to firmware <- fair enough [00:32] highest_cubist_thrills i mean if im not using something that needs the keys [00:32] highest_cubist_thrills bricking the keys wont brick anything else [00:32] Ariadne the activation lock on macs bricks the key and then sets a flag in the firmware saying that the mac needs to be reinstalled [00:32] Ariadne if you want to desolder the SPI flash, you can unbrick it [00:33] Ariadne you just have to install the OS again [00:33] highest_cubist_thrills does that include the hallowed m1? [00:33] Ariadne yes [00:33] highest_cubist_thrills meh [00:33] Ariadne and m2 [00:33] highest_cubist_thrills id rather be entirely in charge of any bricking mechanism [00:33] highest_cubist_thrills rather than trust apple with one [00:34] Ariadne you can build that :) [00:34] Ariadne not on apple but [00:34] highest_cubist_thrills yeah [00:34] highest_cubist_thrills but if i was going to have one at all [00:34] highest_cubist_thrills id rather have one i chose [00:34] Ariadne the components themselves are composable in such a way [00:35] Ariadne that you can build whatever you want [00:36] highest_cubist_thrills the components themselves are composable in such a way that you can build whatever you want <- roy is right to be sceptical of these things imo [00:36] highest_cubist_thrills but just like id prefer apple leave this up to me [00:36] highest_cubist_thrills id rather roy give me more facts to work with, and let me come to my own conclusion than have him do that for me [00:36] highest_cubist_thrills /me knows thats never going to happen [00:36] MinceR 07 013354 < highest_cubist_thrills> rather than trust apple with one [00:37] MinceR i don't trust apple with any bit of hardware [00:37] MinceR their competence and attitude are both abysmal [00:37] highest_cubist_thrills i dont trust apple either, and here are new reasons i dont [00:37] highest_cubist_thrills i mean, this conversation gave me the best reason NOT to trust apple yet (imo) [00:37] highest_cubist_thrills but, it did so at the "cost" of a more nuanced (and informed) take on the tech involved [00:38] highest_cubist_thrills rather than "omg radioactive dont touch" [00:38] highest_cubist_thrills which is good advice-- touching stuff thats radioactive is usually a bad idea [00:38] highest_cubist_thrills and if you do, you can measure the levels after (but better to do that before) [00:39] highest_cubist_thrills if you go to chernobyl youll have to pass through machinest that detect your levels of radioactivity before you rejoin the population [00:39] Ariadne yes of the applications one can and should be skeptical [00:39] highest_cubist_thrills and there are zones youre meant to stay out of [00:39] highest_cubist_thrills but people live there. [00:39] highest_cubist_thrills a few [00:39] Ariadne but the underlying tech is harmless [00:39] highest_cubist_thrills but the underlying tech is harmless <- i generally think being informed is a good thing [00:39] highest_cubist_thrills sometimes i like to have details [00:40] highest_cubist_thrills details can be abused like everything else, but they can often help [00:40] XRevan86 https://neuters.de/world/us/biden-overhauls-us-policy-marijuana-pardons-prior-federal-offenses-2022-10-06/ [00:40] TR Bot Biden overhauls U.S. policy on marijuana, pardons prior federal offenses [00:40] highest_cubist_thrills https://neuters.de <- busted taillights remain a capital offence [00:40] TR Bot Neuters - Reuters Proxy [00:41] highest_cubist_thrills (an excuse to pull over black people and kill them) [00:43] highest_cubist_thrills systemd is the new goatse [00:43] highest_cubist_thrills thats not nearly as random as it looks, but ok [00:46] highest_cubist_thrills /me wonders what the hell keeps sourceforge from imploding [00:46] highest_cubist_thrills its going to be VERY bad when it goes [00:46] highest_cubist_thrills i know it already did once [00:46] highest_cubist_thrills which partially (and happily) refutes my point [00:46] DaemonFC I actually strongly approve of the marijuana pardons and the scheduling review. [00:46] DaemonFC I have nothing to say in criticism of this. [00:47] highest_cubist_thrills being right isnt even the point-- id love to be wrong about this [00:47] highest_cubist_thrills i strongly prefer it [00:47] DaemonFC Libertarians have been arguing for ending the failed drug war for decades. [00:47] DaemonFC They were also the first political party in the US that called for repealing the sodomy laws and legalizing same-sex marriage. In 1974, I believe. [00:48] DaemonFC 38 years ahead of the Democrats. [00:48] DaemonFC It's just crazy that with all of the actual violent crime going on in the US and how they say there's no room in prison for child sex predators and murderers, that people are going to prison for smoking pot. [00:49] MinceR "law and order", you know. [00:49] highest_cubist_thrills "law and order", you know <- yeah, like in russia [00:50] MinceR exactly [00:52] DaemonFC It was absolutely timed though. [00:52] DaemonFC I mean, it is politics. [00:52] DaemonFC The President can control the news cycle a little with something like this. [00:52] highest_cubist_thrills exactly <- if youre going to go after criminals, you want someone who knows how to think like a criminal [00:52] highest_cubist_thrills and not many people think more like a criminal than putin, so really hes the best man for the job [00:52] XRevan86 "law and order", you know <- "yeah, like in russia" <- I do recognise the style. [00:53] highest_cubist_thrills so really hes the best man for the job <- alas, thatcher is dead [00:53] highest_cubist_thrills she was the best man for the job [00:54] highest_cubist_thrills putin has a shrine to her in his bunker [00:54] highest_cubist_thrills hes going to clone her and stick her brain in a robot [00:54] highest_cubist_thrills but dont worry, the robot will be based on one of his old tanks [00:54] highest_cubist_thrills so she will be dead again soon enough [00:55] highest_cubist_thrills "i have a TURRET? this is bloody awesome!" [00:55] XRevan86 highest_cubist_thrills: "putin has a shrine to her in his bunker" <- I can't prove that he doesn't (: [00:55] XRevan86 Thatcher-61M? [00:56] highest_cubist_thrills "why cant i move my treads?" [00:56] highest_cubist_thrills "youre out of fuel" [00:56] highest_cubist_thrills "bloody hell" [00:56] XRevan86 T[hatcher]-62M? [00:56] highest_cubist_thrills russian tanks get such lousy mileage theyre using teslas to refuel them [00:58] highest_cubist_thrills im sure theyll literally name a tank after her at some point [00:58] highest_cubist_thrills id be terrified personally [00:58] highest_cubist_thrills "oh god, its a thatcher" [00:58] highest_cubist_thrills "its just a rebranded russian tank, dont worry" [00:58] highest_cubist_thrills "yeah but still, thats a bit terrifying" [00:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 22.58 k/sec., IPFS upstream 117.11 average k/sec., average swarm size 115.10 ● Oct 07 [01:00] highest_cubist_thrills now if the soviet union were still around, you know how they would make tanks [01:00] XRevan86 Today I learnt that the Bulgarians have been turning T-62's into fire trucks: https://webnews.bg/uploads/images/17/3917/133917/768x432.jpg [01:01] highest_cubist_thrills theyd make one that was big enough to roll over the other ones [01:01] highest_cubist_thrills "hmm, enemy tanks" [01:01] highest_cubist_thrills "no problem, watch this" [01:01] highest_cubist_thrills into fire trucks <- ha! [01:02] highest_cubist_thrills "what starts with 'f' and ends in 'uck'-- 'FIRE TRUCK!'" [01:02] MinceR nazi germany tried that [01:02] MinceR it didn't work [01:02] MinceR it would get stuck everywhere and couldn't cross any bridges [01:02] MinceR plus it was slow as molasses [01:02] highest_cubist_thrills it would get stuck everywhere and couldn't cross any bridges <- lesson learned then [01:02] highest_cubist_thrills i mean not everything soviet russia made was awesome at all [01:02] highest_cubist_thrills like they made that flying fortress [01:02] highest_cubist_thrills that was just a complete fuckup [01:03] highest_cubist_thrills b52 was also called the flying fortress [01:03] XRevan86 MinceR: Coarse and gets everywhere. [01:03] highest_cubist_thrills but theyre still touring [01:03] highest_cubist_thrills mostly doing casinos [01:03] MinceR the B-17 was the Flying Fortress, the B-52 is the Stratofortress :> [01:03] MinceR XRevan86: lol [01:04] highest_cubist_thrills the B-17 was the Flying Fortress, the B-52 is the Stratofortress <- mincer, the encyclopedia nobody can edit [01:04] highest_cubist_thrills fair enough though [01:04] highest_cubist_thrills /me doesnt know planes [01:04] highest_cubist_thrills well, i know couple of them. not really though [01:04] XRevan86 highest_cubist_thrills: He's a bagira. [01:05] highest_cubist_thrills oh give him more credit [01:05] XRevan86 Oh, I managed to misread that :D [01:05] MinceR only the "stratofortress" part was in the "encyclopedia", i had to look up the rest :> [01:06] highest_cubist_thrills /me is pretty sure mincer has heard of tbe b52s as well [01:06] MinceR yeah, i've read an article about the B-52 [01:06] XRevan86 If I can't tell "h" and "l" apart, I'm off to bed. [01:06] highest_cubist_thrills i mean the band [01:06] bagira im not always a bagira, but when I am, i'm also phanes [01:06] MinceR mainly about why it's still used while most of the other bombers fell out of use [01:06] MinceR including its intended successors :> [01:07] MinceR bagira: what are you when you're neither? [01:07] highest_cubist_thrills im not always a bagira, but when I am, i'm also phanes <- thats funny, b/c when i picture bagira i do actually picture the most interesting man in the world [01:07] MinceR i picture a cat [01:07] highest_cubist_thrills bagpuss? [01:07] MinceR black "panther" [01:08] MinceR well, technically "black panthers" are Panthera, but it's not very specific [01:08] highest_cubist_thrills i picture a cat <- https://yewtu.be/watch?v=dpwhohWhrEE [01:08] TR Bot Bagpuss opening intro - Invidious [01:16] bagira highest_cubist_thrills, i actually get that alot because i had this long black pointed beard for years and often wear a suit when i go to work or travel [01:16] bagira and i also have a varied set of interests shared with many walks of life lol [01:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [01:23] bagira being weirdly quasi-gov-corp-consultant kind of adds to the impression i guess, i end up in the same room as alot of tectonic moments [01:24] bagira sometimes though [01:24] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:24] starstreak bagira, things a typical freemason does [01:25] bagira what looks like a business meeting by a mantle fire with a business tycoon is actually my sneaking a bottle bourbon to a partner at a meeting and i have no other reason to be there [01:26] bagira like legit this has happened, i'll be sipping a glencairn with somebody in like a "look what I stopped by to share" at their office or in their meeting room and their staff will be like "oh he must be one of the lawyers" and I just don't say anything and let the meeting go and they don't notice the glasses [01:27] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@3qbj33nmtvs3e.irc) has joined #techrights [01:30] bagira the expression for "is that a hint of apricot" looks amazingly like "I am considering carefully the entire situation being discussed and am reserving my words for now." [01:36] bagira other times [01:36] bagira i am not in the room [01:36] bagira but i am the situation [01:39] MinceR jersey shore? [01:39] bagira ha no [01:39] bagira but in all honestly usually my life is much more mundane than either scenario [01:39] starstreak the situation is actually cool [01:40] bagira i actually spend a great deal of time and effort making my presence ambiguous so i can assess from the outside depending on why im there [01:41] highest_cubist_thrills ambiguous presence... by calvin klein [01:42] bagira my favorite is when i go to conventions and spend like 2 days of a 3 day convention making friends at the table of someone who's been putridly toxic to me online for years and has no that i'm the same person because they don't know my last name [01:42] highest_cubist_thrills https://yewtu.be/watch?v=J5fEXgYGYiY [01:42] bagira that only happens at the f/oss conventions lol [01:42] TR Bot Subtle Difference (Dutch West Babysode 21.1) - Invidious [01:43] starstreak sounds like exactly what a freemason deserves [01:43] bagira some of those nerds are seriously toxic online and then you meet them in person and they're so timid [01:43] bagira starstreak, you talk alot about freemasons today, are you a mason? [01:44] starstreak good lord, no [01:45] highest_cubist_thrills are seriously toxic online and then you meet them in person and they're so timid <- they are men and women of letters [01:45] bagira anyway, with the irc dicks that i make friends with at the convention, at the end of the second day i tell them im leaving and they want to exchange information, i shake their hand and say their first name as a question, and they say their last name and I say "Chris. Chris Punches." [01:45] highest_cubist_thrills but mostly scarlet letters [01:46] MinceR at least not Bloodletters [01:46] highest_cubist_thrills rarely in any literal way [01:46] bagira usually they're like "cool" but with the really toxic ones I see a wave of sudden confusion and a 50 yard stare, and an "oh, haha, cool, see ya" [01:46] bagira and then they stare and i walk away lol [01:47] bagira i did that to one of the fedora guys a few years back [01:48] *highest_cubist_thrills has quit (connection closed) [01:48] *highest_cubist_thrills (~highest_cubist_thri@nn58qcu3qngy2.irc) has joined #techrights [01:49] bagira starstreak, you seem really adamant about that. what's your issue with the masons anyway [01:51] starstreak bagira, world domination? [01:51] bagira eh? [01:51] starstreak freemasons work for the neanderthals [01:51] starstreak underground [01:51] bagira you think a decentralized entity is capable of world domination [01:51] starstreak in the moho discontinuity [01:52] bagira rofl is this some underground lizard people conspiracy theory [01:52] starstreak the lizard people don't live underground [01:52] bagira we had another person here who did the flat earth stuff too, i can't remember her name [01:52] bagira i think it was pinky? [01:52] bagira it was a woman [01:52] bagira i can't recall her name [01:52] starstreak britney [01:53] bagira yeah that was it [01:53] starstreak thats me [01:53] bagira you and britney would get along, you're both batshit [01:53] MinceR pinky and the brain [01:53] highest_cubist_thrills i though you hated flat earth [01:53] bagira oh i didn't realize you were the same batshit person [01:53] starstreak flat earth is garbage [01:54] highest_cubist_thrills people who take the bible too literally are holding it wrong [01:54] MinceR hologram earth [01:54] starstreak the moon might be a hologram [01:54] bagira if that chick took an SSRI she'd be two episodes of sandman away from a rifle and a clocktower [01:54] MinceR moon conspiracy [01:54] highest_cubist_thrills https://github.com/earth/earth [01:54] TR Bot ( status 404 @ https://github.com/earth/earth ) [01:55] starstreak MinceR, yeah exactly, the moon matrix [01:55] starstreak the moon brainwashes people [01:55] bagira lol [01:55] highest_cubist_thrills moon conspiracy <- i mooned the westboro baptists once [01:55] MinceR DO NOT LOOK AT THE MOON [01:56] MinceR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M75VLQuFPrY [01:56] TR Bot https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=M75VLQuFPrY [01:56] TR Bot invidious.snopyta.org | - Weather Service - Invidious [01:56] highest_cubist_thrills https://yewtu.be/watch?v=eT4shwU4Yc4 [01:56] TR Bot "IT'S NOT A MOON" A Bad Lip Reading of Star Wars - Invidious [01:57] highest_cubist_thrills they did a bad lip reading where they got mark hamill to voice han solo [01:57] highest_cubist_thrills no i didnt mix them up [01:58] highest_cubist_thrills he just wanted another go at his sister :> [01:59] MinceR lol [01:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 60.41 k/sec., IPFS upstream 176.48 average k/sec., average swarm size 116.53 ● Oct 07 [02:01] highest_cubist_thrills https://yewtu.be/watch?v=fidD6wAB9xI [02:01] TR Bot Spock's "Marsh Melon" Dispenser Revisited - Invidious [02:01] *eidolon has quit (Quit: bye) [02:06] frog i watched an older documentary, "Nature - Clever Monkeys" [02:06] frog this one, was difficult to acquire, wanted to order this, and BBC didn't sell the DVD [02:07] frog and then, i found it, on amazon, and someone from Austrial shipped it, too several weeks [02:07] frog it's one of the funniest and emotianl wild-life documentaries [02:08] frog almost religious, whenever i am in bad mood [02:09] MinceR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BD-ba-aXQo [02:09] TR Bot https://tube.cthd.icu/watch?v=2BD-ba-aXQo [02:09] TR Bot not resolve host: tube.cthd.icu; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://tube.cthd.icu/watch?v=2BD-ba-aXQo ) [02:09] frog another such exceptional documentary, was "Last Feast of the Crocodiles", this one was published on VHS tape, and not available for sale anymore [02:09] frog gladly, someone uploaded this to youtube, and i could yt-dlp this, before it disappeared [02:10] frog Australia, awful typos, tired [02:11] DaemonFC https://hub.jhu.edu/2022/10/06/when-and-why-bivalent-boosters/ [02:11] TR Bot Why and when to get a bivalent booster | Hub [02:11] MinceR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hOLm_k6eCs [02:11] TR Bot https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=2hOLm_k6eCs [02:11] TR Bot timed out after 10000 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=2hOLm_k6eCs ) [02:11] DaemonFC Johns Hopkins blames low "bivalent COVID booster" uptake on lack of information. [02:11] DaemonFC But it's like, every time the government says get another one, fewer people do. [02:12] DaemonFC And you see that in other countries too, including Canada, the UK, all of them. [02:13] highest_cubist_thrills freedom doesnt result in monoculture [02:14] highest_cubist_thrills monoculture is a pretty good sign that freedom is lacking [02:14] highest_cubist_thrills its not proof, its just good evidence [02:16] frog this documentary, clever monkeys, shows, what being human really is, and how peverted and cruel society is in "EU" [02:18] highest_cubist_thrills https://jvn.jp/en/jp/JVN55833077/index.html [02:18] highest_cubist_thrills Published:2021/04/22 Last Updated:2021/04/22 [02:18] TR Bot JVN#55833077: yappa-ng vulnerable to cross-site scripting [02:19] frog i think the interpretation of Darwin is misguided, and the understanding of evolution too is [02:19] frog most species, don't just simply extinguish, and even when, it's humans who destroy their habitat [02:19] highest_cubist_thrills https://sourceforge.net/projects/yappa-ng/ <- redirects to os:windows [02:19] TR Bot Best Open Source Linux Multimedia Software 2022 [02:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. 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Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [04:22] *phebus (~phebus@f95gnd3zj7732.irc) has joined #techrights [04:23] highest_cubist_thrills mc alternative: https://www.han.de/~werner/ytree.html [04:23] TR Bot Ytree Home Page [04:24] highest_cubist_thrills its available for archbtw https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ytree [04:24] TR Bot AUR (en) - ytree [04:39] *immibis_ (~hexchat@g2n9srtpi4z2q.irc) has joined #techrights [04:39] *immibis has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:41] DaemonFC ffmpeg has pretty much walked off and stopped improving the AAC encoder much. [04:41] *immibis_ has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [04:41] DaemonFC A lot of it is based on LAME. [04:41] *immibis_ (~hexchat@2a02:3032:e:4b8d:ef8c:aad2:b28:9f42) has joined #techrights [04:55] DaemonFC https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/10/07/blizzard-tried-to-make-it-mandatory-to-have-a-phone-for-2fa-with-overwatch-2-and-wasnt-allowing-people-with-cheap-prepaid-plans-to-authenticate-2fa-is-kind-of-dumb-if-you-use-text-messaging/ [04:55] TR Bot Blizzard tried to make it mandatory to have a phone for 2FA with Overwatch 2, and wasnt allowing people with cheap prepaid plans to authenticate. 2FA is kind of dumb if you use text messaging. | BaronHK's Rants [04:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 47.45 k/sec., IPFS upstream 145.13 average k/sec., average swarm size 114.38 ● Oct 07 [05:16] DaemonFC TIL: If you're hiding from an out of state arrest warrant, go to Indiana. Indiana charges the requesting state the highest fee to process the papers to extradite you ($20,000) which is higher than even California ($17,500), and that's on top of the requesting state having to pay to come get you.. [05:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [05:38] highest_cubist_thrills https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16386429 [05:38] TR Bot Hey Microsoft, Stop Installing Apps on My PC Without Asking | Hacker News [05:38] highest_cubist_thrills good stuff. i know roy doesnt like hn (i havent been there in more than a year probably) [05:38] highest_cubist_thrills and theres a lot of shilling that goes on there, but that thread is pretty good [05:58] DaemonFC https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view%3Fhttps%253A//wgntv.com/il-governor-race/top-pritzker-bailey-debate-moments-everyone-will-be-talking-about [05:58] TR Bot Gemini Portal [05:58] DaemonFC Well, Bailey isn't really dumb. [05:59] DaemonFC He says "I couldn't change that if I tried." on Illinois having the most permissive abortion laws in the country. [05:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 21.98 k/sec., IPFS upstream 123.15 average k/sec., average swarm size 123.61 [05:59] DaemonFC And then hit Pritzker where it hurts. Crime, taxes, and failing schools. ● Oct 07 [06:02] DaemonFC "UPDATE: An attacker with a large kitchen knife killed two people and wounded six others in stabbings along the Las Vegas Strip before being arrested Thursday." [06:02] DaemonFC Ban knives! (In the UK and China especially.) [06:02] DaemonFC The knives are killing people! [06:03] DaemonFC It's the knives, not the criminals! The knives are all knives out! [06:08] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.14 [SeaMonkey 2.53.14/20221003001100]) [06:18] TR News #Techrights Bulletin for Thursday, October 06, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [06:18] TR Bot Bulletin Archives [06:18] TR News #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [06:18] TR Bot Techrights Full IPFS Index [06:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [06:24] *Errr has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [06:24] *Errr (~err@rcmcei2p3396g.irc) has joined #techrights [06:26] TR News "Social media is abuzz lately over the prospect of cheating in tournament strategy games." https://learn.adafruit.com/cheekmate-wireless-haptic-communication?view=all | Source: Adafruit [06:26] TR Bot Overview | Cheekmate - a Wireless Haptic Communication System | Adafruit Learning System [06:27] TR News "The resulting silks, depending on how they had been dissolved, had properties that exceeded those of natural silks." https://www.newscientist.com/article/2341322-metal-enriched-silkworm-silk-is-one-of-the-strongest-materials-ever/ | Source: New Scientist [06:27] TR Bot Metal-enriched silkworm silk is one of the strongest materials ever | New Scientist [06:27] TR News "a chemistry professor and director of Sarafan ChEM-H on campus," https://stanforddaily.com/2022/10/05/stanford-professor-carolyn-bertozzi-wins-nobel-prize-in-chemistry/ | Source: uni Stanford [06:27] TR Bot Stanford professor Carolyn Bertozzi wins Nobel Prize in Chemistry [06:29] highest_cubist_thrills for some reason, the maintainer of this http://x3270.bgp.nu/ is doing the windows version at github [06:29] TR Bot x3270 [06:29] highest_cubist_thrills not the other versions, theyre based on sourceforge [06:29] highest_cubist_thrills i havent checked the dates to make a more informed guess as to whether more or all of the project will move to github [06:48] *immibis_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [06:48] *immibis_ (~hexchat@2a02:3032:e:4b8d:49b2:adb4:c180:41fa) has joined #techrights [06:49] *holo has quit (K-Lined) [06:49] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@u3k8abp3wtrpn.irc) has joined #techrights [06:53] TR News "A jury found Joe Sullivan guilty of obstruction of proceedings of the FTC and misprision of felony" https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/3676599-former-uber-exec-convicted-in-hacking-coverup/ | Source: The Hill [06:53] TR Bot Former Uber exec convicted in hacking cover-up | The Hill [06:53] TR News Openwashing https://siliconangle.com/2022/10/06/french-open-source-cybersecurity-startup-crowdsec-raises-13-7m/ | Source: Silicon Angle [06:53] TR Bot open-source cybersecurity startup CrowdSec raises $13.7M - SiliconANGLE [06:54] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [06:56] TR News "We have released LibreSSL 3.6.0, which will be arriving in the LibreSSL directory of your local OpenBSD mirror soon." https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-announce&m=166502585704477&w=2 | Source: Mailing list ARChives [06:56] TR Bot 'LibreSSL 3.6.0 released' - MARC [06:56] TR News "Signalling another turn of the seasons, Brent Cook (bcook@) announced that a new release of LibreSSL is out. The announcement reads: [...]" https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20221006105921 | Source: Undeadly [06:56] TR Bot LibreSSL 3.6.0 released [06:57] TR News [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D721.jpg [06:57] TR News [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D376.jpg [06:58] TR News "I walk into the Computer Room at Chez Boca to find a box sitting on my chair. It's a sealed and empty box that was shipped to me via https://www.fedex.com/ [1]. It can only mean one thingit's the box to ship Belial, the annoying Mac Laptop [2] back to The Enterprise." gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/10/06.1 [06:58] TR Bot Global Home - Select Your Location [06:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 44.85 k/sec., IPFS upstream 89.93 average k/sec., average swarm size 117.61 ● Oct 07 [07:02] TR News "The root of the FBIs interest in Monroe was her romantic involvement with Miller, which began as a secret affair but grew into a media spectacle." https://www.teenvogue.com/story/marilyn-monroe-monitored-fbi | Source: Teen Vogue [07:02] TR Bot The FBI Monitored Marilyn Monroe Over Suspected Communist Ties | Teen Vogue [07:02] TR News "Speaking of your home, your address is connected to your name all over the web along with your age, cellphone or landline number" https://eu.usatoday.com/story/tech/columnist/komando/2022/10/06/remove-personal-data-from-people-search-sites/8179864001/ | Source: Gannett [07:02] TR Bot How to remove personal data from the top seven people search sites [07:02] TR News "The lawsuit built on the 2020 complaint filed by the Arizona Attorney General over location data collection" https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/digital-security/google-pays-85-mn-to-settle-location-tracking-data-lawsuit-in-us/94674948 | Source: India Times [07:02] TR Bot google: Google pays $85 mn to settle location tracking data lawsuit in US, CIO News, ET CIO [07:02] TR News "The company's alleged activity includes having listening devices secretly placed inside people's cars and homes." https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-63164654 | Source: BBC [07:02] TR Bot Elton John and Prince Harry sue Daily Mail publisher over 'privacy breach' - BBC News [07:04] TR News "The new plants, valued at $4 billion, will be located near Big Rapids and in western Wayne County" https://www.bridgemi.com/business-watch/michigan-lands-two-more-ev-battery-plants-bringing-4000-jobs | Source: Bridge Michigan [07:04] TR Bot Michigan lands two more EV battery plants, bringing up to 4,000 jobs | Bridge Michigan [07:06] *highest_cubist_thrills has quit (connection closed) [07:07] TR News Social control media https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4676645 | Source: Taiwan News [07:07] TR Bot Letter to Editor: Social media movements against China, Russia's disinformation campaigns | Taiwan News | 2022-10-04 20:30:00 [07:07] TR News "yellow umbrellas -- a symbol of protest in Hong Kong" https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/internet/the-censor-cannot-hold-the-pressure-of-controlling-chinas-internet/94694630 | Source: India Times [07:07] TR Bot internet censorship: The censor cannot hold: The pressure of controlling China's internet, CIO News, ET CIO [07:09] TR News "When was the last time you've read an amicus brief?" https://www.engadget.com/the-onion-amicus-brief-supreme-court-050425219.html | Source: Engadget [07:09] TR Bot Onion' filed a real brief with the Supreme Court supporting man jailed for making fun of cops | Engadget [07:09] TR News "But the Paris appeal court revised the decision and knocked 728 million from the fine, meaning Apple still faces having to pay 370 million euros." https://today.rtl.lu/news/business-and-tech/a/1975718.html | Source: RTL [07:09] TR Bot RTL Today - Big bite out of apple: Apple wins 728-mn-euro cut to France antitrust fine [07:11] TR News (NEW): LibreSSL 3.6.0 released http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/LibreSSL_3_6_0_released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/LibreSSL_3_6_0_released.gmi [07:11] TR Bot Tux Machines LibreSSL 3.6.0 released [07:12] *highest_cubist_thrills (~highest_cubist_thri@qiahibkh2iwka.irc) has joined #techrights [07:13] TR News "The day is finally here. Valve has removed the reservation queue for the Steam Deck, so you can buy it right now." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/no-more-steam-deck-reservation-queue-m-buy-it-now-plus-docking-station-available/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [07:13] TR Bot more Steam Deck reservation queue buy it now, plus Docking Station available | GamingOnLinux [07:13] TR News "It needs to hurry up and be 2023 so I can play the full game of Cassette Beasts" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/cassette-beasts-is-a-wonderful-take-on-monster-catching/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [07:13] TR Bot Beasts is a wonderful take on monster catching | GamingOnLinux [07:14] *samouy (~samouy@2a02:6ea0:c859:1::a01d) has joined #techrights [07:16] TR News "Love pain? Want to make your life difficult? Good news for you then as Dead Cells now has a fresh upgrade out with a Boss Rush mode so you can sweat against the toughest." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/dead-cells-now-has-a-boss-rush-mode-if-you-like-pain/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [07:16] TR Bot Cells now has a Boss Rush mode if you like pain | GamingOnLinux [07:16] TR News "Love your classic racing games with low-poly visuals?" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/formula-retro-racing-world-tour-is-a-fresh-upcoming-low-poly-racer/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [07:16] TR Bot Retro Racing - World Tour is a fresh upcoming low-poly racer | GamingOnLinux [07:17] TR News "RimWorld is set to get even bigger with the upcoming Biotech expansion that releases in a few weeks, along with a major free update for all players." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/rimworld-biotech-expansion-announced-and-a-big-free-update/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [07:17] TR Bot - Biotech expansion announced and a big free update | GamingOnLinux [07:17] TR News "SteamOS 3.3.2 and a Steam Deck Client Update are out now, pulling together all the recent Beta / Preview updates and putting them out for everyone. Here's what's new." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/steamos-332-and-a-stable-steam-deck-client-update-are-out-now-heres-whats-new/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [07:17] TR Bot 3.3.2 and a Stable Steam Deck Client Update are out now, here's what's new | GamingOnLinux [07:17] TR News "Transport Layer Security (TLS) is a cryptographic protocol based on SSLv3 designed to encrypt and decrypt traffic between two sites." https://opensource.com/article/22/9/dynamically-update-tls-certificates-golang-server-no-downtime | Source: OpenSource.com [07:17] TR Bot update TLS certificates in a Golang server without downtime | Opensource.com [07:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [07:20] TR News "Keeping a tab on your SSL certificates is a crucial part of a sysadmin's job." https://linuxhandbook.com/check-certificate-openssl/ | Source: Linux Handbook [07:20] TR Bot How to Check Certificate with OpenSSL [07:20] TR News "Being one of the most popular text editors, Vim also influences other modern text editors." https://linuxhandbook.com/install-vim-plugins/ | Source: Linux Handbook [07:20] TR Bot How to Install and Use Vim Plugins [07:21] TR News "Secure Shell (SSH) is a widely adopted network protocol, which allows us to interact with remote hosts in a secure way." https://www.tecmint.com/ssh-command-usage/ | Source: TecMint [07:21] TR Bot Most Common SSH Command Usage and Configuration in Linux [07:21] TR News "The WHLE-LS1 is a Single Board Computer (SBC) powered by QorIQ Layerscape processors targeting networking and industrial applications." https://linuxgizmos.com/networking-board-equipped-with-nxp-layerscape-series-processors/ | Source: Linux Gizmos [07:21] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/networking-board-equipped-with-nxp-layerscape-series-processors/ ) [07:28] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [07:29] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [07:36] TR News FB WhatsApp https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11287193/Mets-new-chief-warns-racist-cops-rooted-memes-WhatsApp-group-revealed.html [07:36] TR Bot Met's new chief warns racist cops 'you will be rooted out' - as memes in WhatsApp group are revealed | Daily Mail Online [07:36] TR News Onion https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/22/22-293/242292/20221003125252896_35295545_1-22.10.03%20-%20Novak-Parma%20-%20Onion%20Amicus%20Brief.pdf [07:38] psydruid https://www.lansweeper.com/itam/is-your-business-ready-for-windows-11/ [07:38] TR Bot Windows 11 Readiness Check - Is Your Business Ready for Windows 11? [07:38] TR News old: Graphical User Interface Gallery http://toastytech.com/guis/index.html [07:38] TR Bot Graphical User Interface Gallery [07:38] psydruid barely any adoption of Vista 11 [07:38] schestowitz[TR] yeah [07:38] schestowitz[TR] no sales, either [07:41] TR News Chatkontrolle - Kampagnenvideo - Invidious https://yewtu.be/cpGSqroLomg | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/https://yewtu.be/cpGSqroLomg [07:41] TR Bot Chatkontrolle - Kampagnenvideo - Invidious [07:41] TR News The Loop - Jacob Ward https://jacobward.com/theloop/ Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//jacobward.com/theloop/ [07:41] TR Bot The Loop Jacob Ward [07:43] *horseface (~horseface@9ucczhkmm895g.irc) has joined #techrights [07:44] highest_cubist_thrills found another traitor in fsd fork: andy stewart [07:44] highest_cubist_thrills /me removes from fork (part of the point is to track whats actually left of free software, not people who dont give a fuck about your freedom) [07:45] highest_cubist_thrills xlog (nongnu) if youre curious [07:46] highest_cubist_thrills its not surprising since hes a ham radio guy [07:46] highest_cubist_thrills and ham radio guys seem to hate stallman [07:46] highest_cubist_thrills NO CONNECTION TO GNU RADIO AT ALL im sure [07:46] highest_cubist_thrills that project should be axed from gnu tbh [07:46] highest_cubist_thrills theyre defrauding the trademark [07:47] schestowitz[TR] pernes never disliked rms [07:47] highest_cubist_thrills should be axed from gnu <- instead the fsf will let gnu die [07:47] highest_cubist_thrills pernes never <- perens is involved with gnu radio? [07:47] schestowitz[TR] no, ham radio [07:47] highest_cubist_thrills never disliked rms <- i think thats mostly true. he certainly bitched about him A LOT in debian private [07:47] highest_cubist_thrills no, ham radio <- fair enough [07:48] schestowitz[TR] no, pernes spoke to rms [07:48] schestowitz[TR] and people moaned about it [07:48] schestowitz[TR] many messages about it [07:48] highest_cubist_thrills you must be thinking of a different thread [07:48] schestowitz[TR] and he insisted they closely follow fsf guidelines [07:48] schestowitz[TR] then got blasted for it [07:48] highest_cubist_thrills ah, yes [07:48] highest_cubist_thrills and he insisted they closely follow fsf guidelines <- but [07:48] highest_cubist_thrills at some point in SOME thread [07:49] highest_cubist_thrills perens definitely advocated taking debian away from fsf guidelines [07:49] highest_cubist_thrills and he was pissed too [07:49] highest_cubist_thrills now, this isnt a sin [07:49] highest_cubist_thrills in his shoes id have possibly done the same (especially at that time in history) [07:49] highest_cubist_thrills but im not sure i could confidently say "pernes never disliked rms" [07:50] highest_cubist_thrills he may or may not have [07:50] highest_cubist_thrills hes certainly no simon phipps, and thats great [07:51] highest_cubist_thrills ive tried to figure out perens forever [07:51] highest_cubist_thrills i feel confident in saying i never will [07:51] highest_cubist_thrills i dont think hes a traitor [07:52] highest_cubist_thrills beyond that i really dont know [07:52] highest_cubist_thrills saying hes not a traitor when he authored the osd is charitable imo [07:52] highest_cubist_thrills but he was probably well intentioned [07:53] highest_cubist_thrills thats how the story goes. not much to show the story isnt true [07:53] TR News "Since last Friday, four snapshots have been released." https://news.opensuse.org/2022/10/07/qemu-vim-up-in-tw/ | [07:53] TR Bot QEMU, Vim update in Tumbleweed - openSUSE News [07:53] highest_cubist_thrills if you fall on the train tracks and the entire war effort fails as a result [07:54] highest_cubist_thrills i mean, thats still probably an innocent mistake [07:57] TR News "pretending the license is sufficient" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-061022.html#tOct%2006%2000:03:56 [07:57] TR Bot IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, October 06, 2022 ● Oct 07 [08:00] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 77.11 k/sec., IPFS upstream 100.38 average k/sec., average swarm size 84.28 [08:13] *horseface has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:18] TR News COVID-19 Positivity Rate Soaring in England Even Before October https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/07/september-covid-19-positivity-rate/ [08:18] TR Bot Blog Archive COVID-19 Positivity Rate Soaring in England Even Before October [08:19] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [08:19] TR News (NEW): Games: Steam Deck, Cassette Beasts, Dead Cells, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Games_Steam_Deck_Cassette_Beasts_Dead_Cells_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Games_Steam_Deck_Cassette_Beasts_Dead_Cells_and_More.gmi [08:19] TR Bot Tux Machines Games: Steam Deck, Cassette Beasts, Dead Cells, and More [08:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [08:22] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [08:23] highest_cubist_thrills /me thinks mjgs alignment is chaotic neutral, but would rather know more from someone who knows d&d like mincer [08:23] highest_cubist_thrills if he tries to do good his principles sure take him to some odd fucking places [08:24] highest_cubist_thrills he may think hes doing good and that may be a motivator, but imo his ambivalent towards any evil on his side of whatever [08:24] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [08:25] highest_cubist_thrills hes also a bit authoritarian, but at most an anti-authoritarian authoritarian [08:25] highest_cubist_thrills chaotic neutral. of course that sounds charitable, doesnt it [08:26] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@22agg6qj8dxhg.irc) has joined #techrights [08:26] highest_cubist_thrills i dont really think it matters to him (he may think it does) what kind of chaos it is. i just dont buy it. [08:33] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], Your government might be discouraging testing too. [08:33] DaemonFC I don't know. I can only say what I've witnessed here, and if Illinois doesn't want to know about COVID anymore, I doubt any other state does. [08:34] DaemonFC Prickster is trying to make us all forget the last two years even happened, and not just COVID, but the "dump all the rapists and kiddie diddlers back out on the streets" bill the Democrats passed. [08:34] *highest_cubist_thrills has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:37] *highest_cubist_thrills (~highest_cubist_thri@6v8cjbvydcdre.irc) has joined #techrights [08:45] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], I was watching a PBS Frontline report about fish oil. [08:45] DaemonFC They were trying to say it didn't really help. [08:46] DaemonFC But I noticed when I began taking it, my HDL and triglyceride profile improved quite a bit, but it took a statin to get the LDL-C down. [08:49] *matteobin (~matteobin@tecziqbycf9k2.irc) has joined #techrights [08:49] techuser hi [08:51] DaemonFC Hello [08:52] highest_cubist_thrills morning matteobin [08:52] matteobin Good morning! I'm testing a new IRC client [08:53] matteobin https://tools.suckless.org/ii/ [08:53] TR Bot tools | suckless.org software that sucks less [08:53] highest_cubist_thrills awesome [08:53] schestowitz[TR] we use that a lot [08:53] matteobin It's pretty cool. [08:54] schestowitz[TR] techrights-ipfs-bot and techrights-news run ii [08:54] highest_cubist_thrills /me uses the suckless window manager [08:54] matteobin I'll have to alias echo to out files or something, but it's a nice toy. [08:54] TR News (NEW): Pros and Cons of Using Btrfs Filesystem in Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Pros_and_Cons_of_Using_Btrfs_Filesystem_in_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Pros_and_Cons_of_Using_Btrfs_Filesystem_in_Linux.gmi [08:54] TR Bot Tux Machines Pros and Cons of Using Btrfs Filesystem in Linux [08:55] TR News (NEW): QEMU, Vim update in Tumbleweed http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/QEMU_Vim_update_in_Tumbleweed.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/QEMU_Vim_update_in_Tumbleweed.gmi [08:55] TR Bot Tux Machines QEMU, Vim update in Tumbleweed [08:55] TR News (NEW): ODROID-Go Ultra Amlogic S922X portable gaming console and devkit launched for $111 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/ODROID_Go_Ultra_Amlogic_S922X_portable_gaming_console_and_devki.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/ODROID_Go_Ultra_Amlogic_S922X_portable_gaming_console_and_devki.gmi [08:55] TR Bot Tux Machines ODROID-Go Ultra Amlogic S922X portable gaming console and devkit launched for $111 [08:55] DaemonFC Didn't Matt GULAG criticize suckless or something a while back? [08:55] TR News (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Android_Leftovers.gmi [08:55] TR Bot Tux Machines Android Leftovers [08:55] matteobin You should try it, techuser since you don't like bloat! [08:56] DaemonFC I'm normally on HexChat or ChatZilla. [08:56] matteobin Who is Matt GULAG? [08:56] techuser hope my motivation ever gets fixed [08:57] DaemonFC Who is Matt GULAG? [08:57] DaemonFC Matthew Garrett [08:57] matteobin techuser: if you need help, just ask, I'm here. [08:57] highest_cubist_thrills mjg, the guy who won the free software award for suckyour boot [08:57] techuser no idea if I can be helped [08:57] techuser and if I will recognize the help as real help [08:57] DaemonFC mjg59_ appropriately sounds a lot like Arnold Rimmer from Red Dwarf if you listen to him. [08:58] highest_cubist_thrills he used to work for google, which roy calls gulag [08:58] matteobin Everyone can be helped [08:58] highest_cubist_thrills im not so sure [08:58] highest_cubist_thrills from a christian perspective, i suppose anyone can be saved [08:58] highest_cubist_thrills but im agnostic [08:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 33.40 k/sec., IPFS upstream 163.21 average k/sec., average swarm size 118.58 ● Oct 07 [09:02] matteobin Well, maybe not really everyone because we don't have enought time. However I'm pretty positive about techuser. [09:02] DaemonFC from a christian perspective, i suppose anyone can be saved [09:02] techuser highest_cubist_thrills is however negative towards me [09:03] techuser he probably ignores me [09:03] DaemonFC Some say that blasphemy is unforgivable. [09:03] TR News In 2022, to Date, British Deaths Massively Increased Compared to the Prior Year https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/07/uk-death-increases/ [09:03] TR Bot Blog Archive In 2022, to Date, British Deaths Massively Increased Compared to the Prior Year [09:03] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: pendemic is over-biden [09:03] schestowitz[TR] *pandemic [09:03] schestowitz[TR] biden is over [09:03] schestowitz[TR] or his credibility [09:03] techuser it is because I dislike the failing FSF and whoever manages it rn [09:03] schestowitz[TR] Dems need to change candidate for 2024 [09:03] schestowitz[TR] or elese.. [09:03] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], The pandemic is over. Be sure to get your 5th shot. -Biden [09:03] techuser and thus I signed the "anti-RMS letter" [09:04] schestowitz[TR] a senile-covidiot cannot stay in poer for long [09:04] highest_cubist_thrills Dems need to change candidate for 2024 <- hahaha [09:04] highest_cubist_thrills pretending the party gives a shit if americans live or die [09:04] schestowitz[TR] techuser: congrats, you signed LIES. [09:04] highest_cubist_thrills thats a good one [09:04] DaemonFC Biden was never meant to win in the first place. [09:04] highest_cubist_thrills dems only care whos turn it is [09:04] DaemonFC The Democrats ran Biden because they expected to lose. [09:05] techuser maybe lies, but the purpose was to remove the people [09:05] highest_cubist_thrills thats why they voted for hillary when the voters wanted bernie [09:05] highest_cubist_thrills they dont give a fuck what the voters want [09:05] DaemonFC No, they don't. [09:05] DaemonFC I voted for Sanders twice. [09:05] matteobin Poor Stallman! He didn't deserve that hate letter. [09:05] highest_cubist_thrills you the the motion picture academy gives two shits who the fans want to get the oscar? [09:05] DaemonFC The second time was in 2020, when Illinois rushed to have the most corrupt primary in state history. [09:06] TR News OAN (Misinformation/Disinformation/Propaganda) https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/06/conspiracy-channel-oan-tries-to-survive-using-over-the-air-antennas/ | Source: Techdirt [09:06] TR Bot Channel OAN Tries To Survive Using Over The Air Antennas | Techdirt [09:06] highest_cubist_thrills Poor Stallman! He didn't deserve that hate letter <- he never did, but it wasnt just about stallman (it was mostly about stallman) [09:06] highest_cubist_thrills it was also about all of his followers [09:06] DaemonFC In the middle of the "emergency stay at home order", they yanked the polling booths out of the nursing homes, and then said you had to vote in person and they had hand sanitizer. [09:06] highest_cubist_thrills it pushed the overton window for the free software movement away from free software. [09:06] DaemonFC That's literally what the radio ads said! [09:07] DaemonFC They had hand sanitizer available at the polling places. [09:07] highest_cubist_thrills imo they killed it. thats why you get rid of a founder [09:07] DaemonFC :) [09:07] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], Oh well if you have hand sanitizer, what the hell? [09:07] techuser I don't think free software movement should be led by a single, now suspicious, entity [09:07] techuser techrights people say some of its evils [09:07] highest_cubist_thrills /me waited a few years to see if it was any better than that [09:07] *matteobin has quit (connection closed) [09:08] DaemonFC You couldn't find hand sanitizer for months. I resorted to making my own out of rubbing alcohol and aloe gel. [09:08] TR News CNN https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/06/trump-sues-cnn-yet-again-and-its-as-dumb-if-not-dumber-than-his-previous-failed-lawsuits-against-cnn/ | Source: Techdirt [09:08] TR Bot Sues CNN Yet Again And Its As Dumb, If Not Dumber, Than His Previous Failed Lawsuits Against CNN | Techdirt [09:09] TR News UK regime outsourcing our health data to Microsoft, i.e. criminals from another country. Imagine the outrage if NHS and ONS data was outsourced to Chinese sites operating from China. [09:09] TR News IRC Proceedings: Thursday, October 06, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/07/irc-log-061022/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/07/irc-log-061022/ [09:09] TR Bot IRC Proceedings: Thursday, October 06, 2022 | Techrights [09:10] TR News Data up to September 26th (not even October yet), based on yesterdays latest data. By now it must be approaching 10%. https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/07/september-covid-19-positivity-rate/ [09:10] TR Bot Blog Archive COVID-19 Positivity Rate Soaring in England Even Before October [09:10] TR News So about 1,000 more people die each month this year (compared to last year, which was also a COVID year). https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/07/uk-death-increases/ [09:10] TR Bot Blog Archive In 2022, to Date, British Deaths Massively Increased Compared to the Prior Year [09:11] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:12] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], You figure the updated COVID shots are worth anything? The British went a different way on this than we did. [09:13] DaemonFC The updated boosters there are targeting an older strain. [09:15] schestowitz[TR] there is no one singgle set of them [09:15] schestowitz[TR] but several companies [09:15] schestowitz[TR] with several "products" [09:15] *GNUmoon2 has quit (connection closed) [09:15] schestowitz[TR] several patent pools [09:15] schestowitz[TR] and we don't even know the overlap [09:15] schestowitz[TR] as they keep the recipes secret [09:16] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@4n9eayzs5y2n4.irc) has joined #techrights [09:16] schestowitz[TR] so you cannot speak about the boosters as though they're just one product [09:16] schestowitz[TR] there's vaccine and patent nationalism [09:16] schestowitz[TR] The updated boosters there are targeting an older strain. [09:16] *highest_cubist_thrills has quit (connection closed) [09:16] schestowitz[TR] they say a NEW strain is now emerging [09:17] schestowitz[TR] and was dectwctd recenttly [09:17] schestowitz[TR] not shocking given the policy of "let's just spread this thing" and give more placebos (4th, 5th shots) [09:17] mjg59_ Demonstrably not placebos [09:17] mjg59_ Shouldn't this be in #techpol? [09:18] DaemonFC Why? Because San Francisco loads a page hosted by Microsoft? [09:18] *highest_cubist_thrills (~highest_cubist_thri@hqaq7gn6dhre8.irc) has joined #techrights [09:18] DaemonFC Their own graph shows that for most of the duration, the group that was unvaccinated didn't do that much worse, with the exception of the spike last winter. [09:19] *techuser has quit (connection closed) [09:19] schestowitz[TR] when you start giving peopel THAT many doses, then demostrably they are no better than plabebos [09:19] mjg59_ [09:19] schestowitz[TR] a study in 2021 showed the 4th doses did not improve over the 3rd [09:19] schestowitz[TR] for large sets of old people [09:19] schestowitz[TR] some with 3, some with 4 [09:19] schestowitz[TR] the companies went eahead and administered more doses anyway [09:19] DaemonFC Yeah, I didn't take the 4th shot until they updated the formulation and I told Mandy not to either. [09:20] schestowitz[TR] more patented vaccines [09:20] mjg59_ There are plenty of studies demonstrating that additional boosters an appropriate amount of time after a previous booster or infection continues to reduce the probability of hospitalisation [09:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [09:20] mjg59_ Which is something a placebo wouldn't [09:20] DaemonFC They tried to stick him with it down at the health department until I read them the riot act. [09:20] schestowitz[TR] a placebo does mnore harm than good [09:20] DaemonFC Why would we take risk without benefit? [09:20] schestowitz[TR] it gievs peopl e a false sense of safety, confidence [09:20] schestowitz[TR] then we have covidiots out here not keepiing distance or wearing masks [09:20] schestowitz[TR] and they jeopardise those who assess the threat properly [09:21] DaemonFC I haven't been wearing a mask for months. [09:21] schestowitz[TR] brb coffeee [09:21] mjg59_ DaemonFC: The SF numbers have always shown unvaccinated people having covid at 2x the case rate as the vaccinated population, and it's currently 3x [09:21] highest_cubist_thrills wait until he says that a biologist wouldnt know anything about this [09:21] *techuser (~techuser@xij34f3u7y28y.irc) has joined #techrights [09:21] schestowitz[TR] to be clear [09:21] schestowitz[TR] i did not say the vaccines are plabebos [09:21] mjg59_ You said they were no better than placebos [09:21] schestowitz[TR] the 5th or 6ht or whatnot are barely distinguishable from placebos [09:21] DaemonFC Right, you're saying when they give people the same shot 4 times, the effect fades away. [09:21] schestowitz[TR] they just give more and mroore of the same [09:21] mjg59_ Yeah, that's just not true [09:21] schestowitz[TR] like the song [09:21] schestowitz[TR] "the drugs ain't working" [09:22] DaemonFC The additional benefit of each additional shot fades away. [09:22] schestowitz[TR] "let's have more of them" [09:22] DaemonFC It's basically just risk at some point. [09:22] highest_cubist_thrills /me thinks roys character alignment is chaotic stupid, but thats not a thing [09:22] schestowitz[TR] studies are on my side [09:22] mjg59_ They're very clearly not [09:22] schestowitz[TR] studies from december 2021 as well [09:22] DaemonFC mjg59_, So if a 4th shot of the original vaccine was such a good idea, why did the US CDC say only take it if you're old or have HIV or something? [09:23] schestowitz[TR] polio shot was done and had good effect [09:23] DaemonFC If it would benefit everyone? [09:23] schestowitz[TR] and als took longeer to deleop and test [09:23] schestowitz[TR] in small sets, then bigger, than everyone [09:23] schestowitz[TR] the US vaccine industry has turned this into a cjoke [09:23] schestowitz[TR] we see this with monkeypox too [09:23] schestowitz[TR] they don't even test [09:23] schestowitz[TR] they just pretend to [09:23] DaemonFC They failed to show me how taking a 4th dose of the original vaccine was a good risk/benefit proposition. [09:24] DaemonFC So I didn't take it and I just waited until today to take the updated one as the 4th shot. [09:24] mjg59_ https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#rates-by-vaccine-status [09:24] TR Bot CDC COVID Data Tracker [09:24] DaemonFC It may as well be for something that's actually circulating NOW and not something that's old. You know, what's circulating now being "incredibly mutated". [09:24] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@22agg6qj8dxhg.irc) has joined #techrights [09:24] DaemonFC That's like saying "Oh go get the flu shot from 2019. Same thing.". [09:25] highest_cubist_thrills /me thinks roy and mjg could actually break up over this one [09:25] mjg59_ Deaths per 100,000 were 1/3 among people with two booster shots compared to one [09:25] schestowitz[TR] anyway, lowering the bar for testing will harm confidence in vaccines in general [09:25] schestowitz[TR] so that will kill people [09:25] schestowitz[TR] more antivaxxers [09:25] schestowitz[TR] who will start rejecting polio, measles vaccines [09:25] DaemonFC Do you realize how stupid it is to be taking such an obsolete shot over and over again when that's not even what's circulating anymore? [09:25] schestowitz[TR] and even flu [09:25] schestowitz[TR] based on this perception that fda is not doing its job [09:26] DaemonFC What's going around now that even looks remotely like the original COVID strain is probably like low single digit percentages of the caseload. [09:26] mjg59_ DaemonFC: Immune evasion doesn't imply *complete* immune evasion [09:26] DaemonFC The government has left people playing "Choose Your Own Adventure" with COVID vaccines. [09:27] mjg59_ Antibodies developed against og covid still have /some/ response to the currently circulating varients [09:27] DaemonFC Today they asked if I wanted the Pfizer or Moderna. I said "What does it say on the other doses on that card?". She goes "Pfizer.". [09:27] DaemonFC I said, "So why would I want Moderna? Especially since that's the one that's making people REALLY sick after they take it?". [09:27] DaemonFC I mean, hello. [09:27] mjg59_ Just going to point at https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#rates-by-vaccine-status again, which pre-dates the bivalent boosters [09:27] highest_cubist_thrills /me read that impeaching bolsonaro might help too [09:28] mjg59_ And demonstrates a clear reduction in deaths amongst people with two boosters [09:28] mjg59_ This is not "no better than a placebo" [09:28] mjg59_ It is something that significantly reduces the risk of death [09:29] mjg59_ Now, yes, there's a separate discussion about whether public health messaging concentrating on vaccines over behaviour is net harmful [09:29] DaemonFC I didn't take Moderna's vaccine because they've never had a product before. [09:29] DaemonFC And their vaccine is very obviously less safe. [09:30] schestowitz[TR] Now, yes, there's a separate discussion about whether public health messaging concentrating on vaccines over behaviour is net harmful [09:30] highest_cubist_thrills /me thinks mjg is just going to spank roy hard with this one, because one party has information and other, idfk... [09:30] schestowitz[TR] I agree [09:30] DaemonFC Of all of the really awful vaccine side effects I've heard of, I go "Which one did you take?" and it's always "Moderna". [09:30] schestowitz[TR] agree to what's quoted [09:30] schestowitz[TR] not highest_cubist_thrills [09:30] schestowitz[TR] afaik, highest_cubist_thrills is against vaccines [09:30] DaemonFC Moderna's vaccine is out there making people afraid to get vaccinated. [09:30] mjg59_ But that is *extremely* not the same as saying that the vaccines are no better than placebos [09:30] schestowitz[TR] for human rights reasons [09:31] DaemonFC Because they hear about this post-vaccination shit show, and it's Moderna's fault. [09:31] schestowitz[TR] if I took flu shots 3 times a year, the third one is as good as placebo [09:31] mjg59_ Roy [09:31] mjg59_ Would you please look at the fucking graph [09:31] schestowitz[TR] worse: it can cause more side effects than it's worse [09:31] schestowitz[TR] the third one [09:32] highest_cubist_thrills well, this is the sort of rhetoric you come up with when your goal is to please / convince everyone [09:32] schestowitz[TR] *worth [09:32] DaemonFC The third one six months later does raise the neutralizing antibody titer significantly. [09:32] mjg59_ I know it's a lot to ask you to actually examine facts [09:32] highest_cubist_thrills Would you please look at the fucking graph <- hes not going to let this be dictated by facts [09:32] DaemonFC However, the "fourth dose" doesn't. So until you get an updated dose, which we have now, no reason to blow it. [09:32] schestowitz[TR] talk to the mirror, we do present facts [09:32] schestowitz[TR] my site presents facts all the time [09:32] schestowitz[TR] using official data [09:32] mjg59_ But please, just this once, look at the picture and explain how the 2 booster line is lower than the 1 booster line if there's no benefit [09:32] schestowitz[TR] from ONS, NHS.. [09:33] highest_cubist_thrills you really dont understand roys priorities here [09:33] mjg59_ schestowitz[TR]: Have you looked at the graph on https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#rates-by-vaccine-status ? [09:33] TR Bot CDC COVID Data Tracker [09:33] highest_cubist_thrills if you did, youd understand why this changes nothing [09:33] schestowitz[TR] there is also a phantom effect [09:34] schestowitz[TR] some people who are well off distance-wise (bigger homes, butlers) take more shots [09:34] mjg59_ That's a lovely just so story [09:34] schestowitz[TR] but that's also s straw man [09:34] schestowitz[TR] my position is this: [09:34] schestowitz[TR] 1. we need BETTER vaccins [09:34] mjg59_ Also not sure how having a butler improves your social distancing [09:35] schestowitz[TR] 2. nobody seems to pursue (1) because patents... complacemncy, lobbying.. [09:35] schestowitz[TR] 3. more data on safety is still needed, but suppressed [09:35] mjg59_ (2) is literally untrue? There's a bunch of research into vaccines delivered nasally, which is extremely promising [09:35] schestowitz[TR] 4. more and more booster is more of the ssame... and the hard data shows we are NOT solving the problem [09:35] *highest_cubist_thrills has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:35] schestowitz[TR] 2022 was the worst COVID-19 year in the UK and in some other countries too [09:35] mjg59_ The hard data shows that additional boosters reduce deaths from covid [09:36] mjg59_ They do not compensate for reduction in behavioural changes that increase transmission rates [09:36] schestowitz[TR] butler is one person [09:36] schestowitz[TR] office space or shop can be like 100 people per day [09:36] *highest_cubist_thrills (~highest_cubist_thri@r9irv7kyrpv3c.irc) has joined #techrights [09:37] schestowitz[TR] well, then consider letting more peopple work from home [09:37] schestowitz[TR] that helps tackle climate change too [09:37] DaemonFC mjg59_, You'll also notice the 18-49 death rate is basically nothing either way. [09:37] schestowitz[TR] the best we did was in 2020 [09:37] schestowitz[TR] barely any covid cases and deaths [09:37] mjg59_ All else being equal, additional boosters save lives [09:37] schestowitz[TR] because we kept the virus at bay [09:37] mjg59_ That's a fact [09:37] schestowitz[TR] now it's a sea of covidiots and millions of nfections per month [09:37] schestowitz[TR] my mom got 4 shots, infected probably 4 times already [09:37] schestowitz[TR] it was 3 last I asked [09:38] schestowitz[TR] polio vaccines don't "reduce the chance ofdeath" [09:38] mjg59_ Cool. If she hadn't had 4 shots, she might be dead. [09:38] *immibis_ has quit (connection closed) [09:38] schestowitz[TR] they reduce the infection with polio [09:39] schestowitz[TR] if she stopped going around everywhere as if the pandemic is over, she would get it not even once [09:39] schestowitz[TR] and would not be bed-bound like 7 times [09:39] schestowitz[TR] one time for each synthetic dose [09:39] schestowitz[TR] which does not prevent her getting is again and again [09:39] schestowitz[TR] but that's one person [09:39] schestowitz[TR] not a proper study [09:40] schestowitz[TR] I've all along urged for change in policy [09:40] DaemonFC mjg59_, Mom didn't get vaccinated. She got the flu at the same time. Wasn't vaccinated for that either. [09:40] schestowitz[TR] while they figure out what remedies they have and how effective they actually are [09:40] schestowitz[TR] but they don't want to do that./ patent heist. [09:40] DaemonFC She's a nurse at a Catholic retirement home that said they don't care if you're vaccinated or not. [09:41] schestowitz[TR] to me, experimental vaccines are just that [09:41] schestowitz[TR] I get all the vaccines [09:41] schestowitz[TR] experimental ones I assess [09:41] schestowitz[TR] but for now [09:41] mjg59_ I feel like I've been pretty clear that allowing people to go back to "life as normal" is a terrible decision from the perspective of reducing covid transmission [09:41] schestowitz[TR] I avoid getting the illnesses they claim to battle... and have thus far coped with poorly [09:41] DaemonFC I feel like I've been pretty clear that allowing people to go back to "life as normal" is a terrible decision from the perspective of reducing covid transmission [09:41] mjg59_ That's an entirely separate question to whether the vaccines are no better than placebos [09:41] DaemonFC They don't give a fucking shit, mjg59_ They want the economy open and they want it open NOW! [09:41] schestowitz[TR] that's capitalism for you [09:41] highest_cubist_thrills there are two possible positions here [09:42] schestowitz[TR] and china is laughing all the way to te sweatshop [09:42] DaemonFC They want football games and church again, in time for the election, mjg59_ [09:42] highest_cubist_thrills one is you agree with roy. the other is you dont [09:42] DaemonFC Talk to Joe Brandon. [09:42] highest_cubist_thrills these are the only variables that matter [09:42] schestowitz[TR] one little wuhan virus... the west paralysed [09:42] schestowitz[TR] and in the UK 1,000 MORE people now die each week [09:42] schestowitz[TR] than last year [09:42] schestowitz[TR] and maybe 2000+ more per week, than pre-covid [09:42] schestowitz[TR] ain't that lovely? [09:42] *immibis_ has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [09:42] schestowitz[TR] go watch football, lads [09:42] schestowitz[TR] go shopping, ladies [09:42] highest_cubist_thrills he and his mother disagree on this too. if not for that his position might be more nuanced [09:42] mjg59_ And how does that demonstrate vaccines being no better than placebos [09:43] DaemonFC mjg59_, Notice how Governor Pritzker in Illinois blasted Ron DeSantis and other Republicans for doing the same thing Democrat governors do now? Ignore it and tell people to move on and shut down all the testing sites. [09:43] DaemonFC Notice that? [09:43] schestowitz[TR] they shut down the testing site near us [09:43] *immibis_ (~hexchat@2a02:3032:e:4b8d:705:5e39:3c4c:eefd) has joined #techrights [09:43] schestowitz[TR] as if there's nothing to be tested anymore [09:43] schestowitz[TR] "safety threatre" [09:43] *immibis (~hexchat@g2n9srtpi4z2q.irc) has joined #techrights [09:43] highest_cubist_thrills ironically he got to the placebos verdict the same way people got to stallman being horrible in a list of ways [09:43] schestowitz[TR] we still have about 17 test kits here [09:44] DaemonFC Right ahead of the election, the pandemic is over. Source: Democrats Why? Everyone is fucking pissed at their hyperinflation, dead economy, crime, and the fact that COVID is still raging on despite being told vaccines would end it. [09:44] highest_cubist_thrills but this time that really is a coincidence. this isnt for your benefit, if you were someone else his position would be the same [09:44] mjg59_ schestowitz[TR]: You are arguing against something I didn't say [09:44] DaemonFC mjg59_, ^ [09:44] schestowitz[TR] highest_cubist_thrills: to be clear: [09:44] schestowitz[TR] what I said is "almost like placebo" is stuff like 5th shot [09:44] schestowitz[TR] as that was brought up [09:44] schestowitz[TR] as I have government research backing me on this [09:44] mjg59_ The numbers make it clear that you're wrong on that [09:45] DaemonFC You have to actually update it to have it be worth taking more shots past like #3. [09:45] schestowitz[TR] placebos can be harmful as they make people more reckless [09:45] highest_cubist_thrills numbers are just like placeholders for ideas and concepts, man [09:45] DaemonFC placebos can be harmful as they make people more reckless [09:45] mjg59_ Ok, two cases: [09:45] DaemonFC THIS! [09:45] mjg59_ 1) Someone shows up for shot #5, you give them saline [09:45] DaemonFC mjg59_, schestowitz[TR] Like PrEP for HIV causing explosions of syphilis and everything else. [09:45] mjg59_ 2) Someone shows up for shot #5, you give them vaccine [09:45] highest_cubist_thrills youre trying to reason with him again [09:45] DaemonFC Nobody worries about HIV, so they take the condoms off. [09:46] schestowitz[TR] even billBC opendly admitted people with all the vaccines are "just as infectious" as those with none [09:46] mjg59_ If they fall into category (2), they are less likely to die [09:46] schestowitz[TR] sso I don't care if you got 10 doses [09:46] DaemonFC The condoms come off, then they get syphilis or something. [09:46] schestowitz[TR] wear a fucking mask [09:46] mjg59_ Therefore the vaccines are better than placebos [09:46] highest_cubist_thrills reasoning works on some people [09:46] schestowitz[TR] and keep away for a bit [09:47] TR News FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/06/telecom-experts-tell-eu-leaders-their-plan-to-tax-big-tech-on-behalf-of-big-telecom-is-a-dumb-idea/ | Source: Techdirt [09:47] TR Bot Experts Tell EU Leaders Their Plan To Tax Big Tech On Behalf of Big Telecom Is A Dumb Idea | Techdirt [09:47] highest_cubist_thrills /me is trying to reason with mjg, but knows on this sort of category of thing it isnt possible either [09:48] highest_cubist_thrills the difference is im doing it for fun. its still trying to reason, but its still fun even if its pointless. [09:49] highest_cubist_thrills mjg: you made a drinking game recently [09:49] highest_cubist_thrills this could inspire a few tbh [09:49] TR News "For our seminar series on cross-disciplinary computing, it was a delight to host Genevieve Smith-Nunes this September" https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/data-ethics-computing-education-ballet-biometrics-research-seminar/ | Source: Raspberry Pi [09:49] TR Bot Data ethics for computing education through ballet and biometrics - Raspberry Pi [09:49] highest_cubist_thrills 1. any time mjg tries to reason with roy and it doesnt work, drink [09:50] highest_cubist_thrills 2. if hes actually right this time, and it still doesnt work, drink again [09:50] DaemonFC Any time mjg59_ is Irish take another drink. [09:50] DaemonFC When everyone in the room is dead except mjg59_ from alcohol poisoning, take another drink. [09:50] TR News "Pornhub has discovered the 'holy grail' to combat piracy on user-generated content sites." https://torrentfreak.com/pornhub-sees-dmca-notices-vanish-after-enabling-uploader-verification-221006/ | Source: Torrent Freak [09:50] TR Bot Sees DMCA Notices Vanish After Enabling Uploader Verification * TorrentFreak [09:51] highest_cubist_thrills 3. if roy pretends it isnt important and goes back to posting links, drink a third time [09:52] schestowitz[TR] highest_cubist_thrills: what is your own stance? [09:52] schestowitz[TR] on vaccines? [09:52] schestowitz[TR] (I know the answer) [09:52] TR News Liz Trump versus science https://www.desmog.com/2022/10/06/prime-minister-liz-truss-accepted-5000-from-climate-denial-funder/ | Source: DeSmog [09:52] TR Bot Minister Liz Truss Accepted 5,000 From Climate Denial Funder - DeSmog [09:53] highest_cubist_thrills 4. if playing this game makes you wake up in a strangers bed, have one more drink before your friends stage an intervention [09:53] TR News World Bank: a threat to human survival https://www.desmog.com/2022/10/06/world-bank-financing-fossil-fuels-climate-crisis/ | Source: DeSmog [09:53] TR Bot Bank Continues Financing Fossil Fuels Despite Climate Crisis - DeSmog [09:53] TR News "There are a number of different tools out there that let you download YouTube videos." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/06/there-are-all-sorts-of-problems-with-ruling-that-youtube-ripping-tool-may-violate-copyright-law/ | Source: Techdirt [09:53] TR Bot Are All Sorts Of Problems With Ruling That YouTube Ripping Tool May Violate Copyright Law | Techdirt [09:54] *schestowitz[TR] goes to do a blood test in 5 mins [09:54] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [09:54] TR News "Weve talked about Authentic Brands Group here a couple of times and never for good behavior." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/06/authentic-brands-group-behind-another-silly-parent-child-trademark-dispute/ | Source: Techdirt [09:54] TR Bot Brands Group Behind Another Silly Parent, Child Trademark Dispute | Techdirt [09:55] TR News Wisconsin https://www.propublica.org/article/wisconsin-election-midterms-voting-2022 | Source: Pro Publica, bribed by Bill Gates [09:55] TR Bot How the Stolen Election Myth Helped Shaped Wisconsin Voting ProPublica [09:56] TR News A lot of the so-called 'election denial' can be resolved by going back to paper ballots. It worked, it still works, but Microsoft and cronies don't profit from it. [09:56] TR News "While we wish colleges and universities competed more on academics, we cant deny that more people are interested in their athletics programs." https://hackaday.com/2022/10/06/robot-blade-runner-turns-in-world-record-time/ | Source: Hackaday [09:56] TR Bot Blade Runner Turns In World Record Time | Hackaday [09:57] TR News "The President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko ordered a price freeze across all business sectors" https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/10/06/starting-not-tomorrow-but-today-lukashenko-orders-price-freeze-in-belarus | Source: Meduza [09:57] TR Bot NO TITLE ● Oct 07 [10:00] *highest_cubist_thrills has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:06] *highest_cubist_thrills (~highest_cubist_thri@cjb3ju2v7e2vc.irc) has joined #techrights [10:06] highest_cubist_thrills xchm has moved from sourceforge to github, i guess [10:06] highest_cubist_thrills cant say i really need xchm, but there you have it [10:08] highest_cubist_thrills is mjg still trying to explain the difference between placebo effect and statistically significant lives saved [10:09] mjg59_ No, roy fucked off [10:10] highest_cubist_thrills ah yes, thats rule 3 in the drinking game [10:10] highest_cubist_thrills wait until d&d adds chaotic stupid [10:12] highest_cubist_thrills you know for a guy who can (probably) decompile firmware or something [10:12] highest_cubist_thrills youre not very good at figuring out what makes him tick [10:12] highest_cubist_thrills honestly he isnt that complicated [10:12] highest_cubist_thrills decompile firmware <- i dont pretend to know how it works [10:17] *highest_cubist_thrills has quit (connection closed) [10:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. 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Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [11:23] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [11:28] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [11:51] TR News (NEW): Essential DNF Commands for Linux Users [With Examples] http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Essential_DNF_Commands_for_Linux_Users_With_Examples.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Essential_DNF_Commands_for_Linux_Users_With_Examples.gmi [11:52] TR Bot Tux Machines Essential DNF Commands for Linux Users [With Examples] [11:52] TR News (NEW): What is KDE Connect? How Do You Use It? 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[11:53] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [11:53] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [11:53] TR News (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Android_Leftovers.gmi [11:53] TR Bot Tux Machines Android Leftovers [11:57] *schestowitz[TR] back [11:57] schestowitz[TR] to be clear [11:57] schestowitz[TR] my stance has always been consistent [11:57] schestowitz[TR] early studies (on pfizer) showed that taking a fourth dose did not significantly improve survival over 3 shots [11:57] schestowitz[TR] IIRC< they tested this on vulnerable age groups [11:58] schestowitz[TR] they came to the conclusion, about 9 months ago, that fourth dose (more sales) did not merit promotion [11:58] schestowitz[TR] that's aside from THIS year's "spring booster" [11:58] schestowitz[TR] and adaptations made [11:58] schestowitz[TR] they try to accomplish the impossible [11:59] schestowitz[TR] so insistent on protecting "the system" and the "market" that they let the wuhan virus spread and mutate [11:59] schestowitz[TR] and now we get many new variants [11:59] schestowitz[TR] and vaccines cannot catch up with them [11:59] schestowitz[TR] historically villages keps isolated [11:59] schestowitz[TR] *kept [11:59] schestowitz[TR] or kept away from outsiders because they brought new strains ● Oct 07 [12:00] schestowitz[TR] in a globalised economy we're meant to let mutation just happen in the name of maintaining profits [12:00] schestowitz[TR] this past summer was, objectively, worst [12:00] schestowitz[TR] no matter if the mediam spins it [12:01] schestowitz[TR] it's said the current strains spread a lot more easily than wuham virus [12:01] schestowitz[TR] *wuhan virus was more deadly [12:02] schestowitz[TR] https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/07/september-covid-19-positivity-rate/ [12:02] TR Bot Blog Archive COVID-19 Positivity Rate Soaring in England Even Before October [12:02] schestowitz[TR] https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/07/uk-death-increases/ [12:02] TR Bot Blog Archive In 2022, to Date, British Deaths Massively Increased Compared to the Prior Year [12:02] schestowitz[TR] now back to tech [12:02] schestowitz[TR] although vaccines are a sort of tech [12:02] schestowitz[TR] just now what we deal with, except patent aspects [12:03] schestowitz[TR] covbid-19 is trouble [12:03] schestowitz[TR] some see covid-19 as JustAnother(R) business opportunity [12:04] TR News "American democracy has been steadily eroding since the Reagan administration, Hedges says" https://scheerpost.com/2022/10/06/your-democracy-has-been-stolen-for-a-long-time-w-chris-hedges-and-jimmy-dore/ | Source: Scheerpost [12:04] TR Bot Democracy Was Stolen A Long Time Ago w/ Chris Hedges and Jimmy Dore - scheerpost.com [12:04] TR News "On Saturday we try to put Hands Around Parliament in opposition to the extradition of Julian Assange." https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2022/10/activist-saturday/ | Source: Craig Murray [12:04] TR Bot Activist Saturday - Craig Murray [12:05] TR News "With Julian Assangefacing extradition to the United States" https://scheerpost.com/2022/10/06/mark-fiore-extradition-threatens-julian-assange-and-press-freedom/ | Source: Scheerpost [12:05] TR Bot Fiore: Extradition Threatens Julian Assange (and Press Freedom) - scheerpost.com [12:05] MinceR 07 092514 < highest_cubist_thrills> hes also a bit authoritarian, but at most an anti-authoritarian authoritarian [12:05] MinceR lol wut [12:06] schestowitz[TR] he may think hes doing good and that may be a motivator, but imo his ambivalent towards any evil on his side of whatever [12:07] schestowitz[TR] I've known MinceR in IRC for over a decade, he's not authoritarian at all [12:07] schestowitz[TR] he loathes authoritarians [12:07] schestowitz[TR] and would rather do away with authorities [12:08] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [12:08] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [12:08] TR News Censorship: "Russias federal censor, Roskomnadzor, has restricted access to the site Ekho, a project of former employees of the radio station Ekho Moskvy" https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/10/06/a-website-launched-by-the-staff-of-ekho-moskvy-has-been-blocked-in-russia | Source: Meduza [12:08] TR Bot NO TITLE [12:09] TR News "Growing up, ours was a family of handwritten notes for every occasion." https://hackaday.com/2022/10/06/immersive-cursive-growing-up-loopy/ | Source: Hackaday [12:09] TR Bot Cursive: Growing Up Loopy | Hackaday [12:09] MinceR i thought that was matt gulag [12:09] TR News "Last time, Ive shown you how to create a local Git repository around your PCB project." https://hackaday.com/2022/10/06/git-your-pcbs-online/ | Source: Hackaday [12:09] TR Bot Your PCBs Online | Hackaday [12:10] schestowitz[TR] MinceR liked to say "die in a fire" [12:10] schestowitz[TR] but never threw anyone in a fire [12:10] schestowitz[TR] there aree people who, if I saw them up in flames, I'd walk on by [12:10] schestowitz[TR] they deserve both the pain and the death for what they did to others [12:11] schestowitz[TR] when steve jobs died I spoke my mind out [12:11] schestowitz[TR] only his slaves ("fans") were offended by that [12:11] schestowitz[TR] he is still an idol to many necrophiles [12:13] schestowitz[TR] jobs was not the worst of thr worst [12:13] schestowitz[TR] but he was a net loss and liability to the planet [12:13] schestowitz[TR] musk is too young to die, but as a kid his classmates nearly killed him [12:14] schestowitz[TR] that's how much they hated him [12:14] TR News Exploring The Cutting Edge Of Desktop ARM Hardwar https://hackaday.com/2022/10/06/exploring-the-cutting-edge-of-desktop-arm-hardware/ | Source: Hackaday [12:14] TR Bot The Cutting Edge Of Desktop ARM Hardware | Hackaday [12:14] schestowitz[TR] psydruid: ^ [12:15] schestowitz[TR] risc-v would be betetr though [12:15] schestowitz[TR] arm is copying a lot of the malicious 'features' [12:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. 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The coup is the price paid for this. [13:01] TR News Apple needs to go out of business https://truthout.org/articles/apple-leads-smartphone-industry-into-anti-consumer-environmental-hell/ | Source: TruthOut [13:02] TR Bot Apple Leads Smartphone Industry Into Anti-Consumer, Environmental Hell [13:10] *frog (~frog@wnxqsw2a3gwfe.irc) has joined #techrights [13:15] TR News "For the week ending October 1, total initial jobless claims were 219,000, more than analysts expected and up from 190,000 the previous week." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/06/us-jobless-claims-jump-fed-shoves-economy-precipice-global-recession | Source: Common Dreams [13:15] TR Bot US Jobless Claims Jump as Fed Shoves Economy to 'Precipice of Global Recession' [13:19] *frog has quit (connection closed) [13:19] *frog (~frog@bmnz78x6ukm46.irc) has joined #techrights [13:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [13:21] TR News whatsapp https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/10/06/pavel-durov-criticizes-whatsapp-as-a-surveillance-tool-hackers-can-gain-full-access-to-the-phone-he-says | Source: Meduza [13:21] TR Bot NO TITLE [13:23] TR News "A perpetual rumble is the grey backdrop of the street below our apartment. It is the sound of constant motoring. Even if no car or motorcycle or scooter is passing, it exists. The impression the flow of machines across my consciousness has made over the seeming centuries painted the backdrop" gemini://thurk.org/blog/579.gmi [13:23] TR News If Gemini is a bicycle, the web is a bus gemini://idiomdrottning.org/if-gemini-is-a-bicycle [13:26] TR News A seven-line summary of Geminis markup format gemini://idiomdrottning.org/gemtext-reference [13:31] TR News Battelle https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/10/national-lab-promoting-digital-police-officer-fantasy-law-enforcement-and-border | Source: EFF [13:31] TR Bot A National Lab Is Promoting a "Digital Police Officer" Fantasy for Law Enforcement and Border Control | Electronic Frontier Foundation [13:32] TR News Social control media https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/10/courts-decision-upholding-disastrous-texas-social-media-law-puts-state-rather | Source: EFF [13:32] TR Bot Courts Decision Upholding Disastrous Texas Social Media Law Puts The State, Rather Than Internet Users, in Control of Everyones Speech Online | Electronic Frontier Foundation [13:34] TR News "This legislation updates the federal bankruptcy code to ensure student loan debt is treated like almost every other form of consumer debt." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/06/democrats-push-lift-ban-student-loan-bankruptcy-relief | Source: Common Dreams [13:34] TR Bot Democrats Push to Lift Ban on Student Loan Bankruptcy Relief [13:37] TR News "The Earth is on fire and the World Bank is one of the biggest arsonists in disguise." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/06/after-dumping-15-billion-fossil-fuels-world-bank-urged-stop-investing-climate | Source: Common Dreams [13:37] TR Bot After Dumping $15 Billion Into Fossil Fuels, World Bank Urged to Stop 'Investing in Climate Disaster' [13:41] TR News Stadias closure WILL impact Deck gamers! (Plus other Deck news) - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=a_gsCF4Rzks | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/a_gsCF4Rzks [13:41] TR Bot Stadias closure WILL impact Deck gamers! (Plus other Deck news) - Invidious [13:42] TR News Easy or Hard https://xkcd.com/2682/ [13:42] TR Bot Easy or Hard [13:44] TR News "The stats say that while Windows 11 has been publicly available for the past year, only 2.61% of Windows machines are running it." https://www.maketecheasier.com/windows-11-adoption-stats-less-than-3-percent/ [13:44] TR Bot Windows 11 Adoption Stats Less Than 3% of Machines - Make Tech Easier [13:44] schestowitz[TR] lol [13:44] schestowitz[TR] worse than I thought [13:45] schestowitz[TR] start of year it was 1% [13:46] TR News 13 Quick Tips to Make Linux File Manager Nautilus Even Better - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Ia2CaItxTEk | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/Ia2CaItxTEk [13:46] TR Bot 13 Quick Tips to Make Linux File Manager Nautilus Even Better - Invidious [13:47] TR News Xubuntu 22.10 Beta Run Through - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=L0ipfO2axyI | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/L0ipfO2axyI [13:47] TR Bot Xubuntu 22.10 Beta Run Through - Invidious ● Oct 07 [14:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [14:21] TR News "In this video, we are looking at Linux Lite 6.2 RC1." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=TJYFiOpYuQI [14:21] TR Bot Linux Lite 6.2 RC1 Run Through - Invidious [14:22] TR News Why I Regret Buying the Steam Deck Reaction - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=B58jbgzT7Qo | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/B58jbgzT7Qo [14:22] TR Bot Why I Regret Buying the Steam Deck *Reaction* - Invidious [14:23] TR News "oday we will return to our Thursday live show and talk about random topics and some future channel directions." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=tBVzflIqWL0 [14:23] TR Bot Linux Hangout and Future Directions - Invidious [14:26] TR News "Gulag has launched its new line of tracking devices, along with the first Pixel watch and earbuds." https://itwire.com/mobility/google-launches-watch,-next-generation-of-pixel-smartphones.html [14:26] TR Bot - Google launches watch, next generation of Pixel smartphones [14:27] TR News "Linux doesnt guarantee 100% online safety." Neither does PIA. https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/pia-vpn-linux-app/ [14:27] TR Bot PIA VPN Linux App: Unlimited Power | PIA Blog [14:31] TR News (NEW): Screencasts: Xubuntu 22.10 Beta and Linux Lite 6.2 RC1 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Screencasts_Xubuntu_22_10_Beta_and_Linux_Lite_6_2_RC1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Screencasts_Xubuntu_22_10_Beta_and_Linux_Lite_6_2_RC1.gmi [14:31] TR Bot Tux Machines Screencasts: Xubuntu 22.10 Beta and Linux Lite 6.2 RC1 [14:32] TR News (NEW): Videos and Shows: Nautilus, Steam Deck, Linux Action News, The Linux Link Tech Show, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Videos_and_Shows_Nautilus_Steam_Deck_Linux_Action_News_The_Linu.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Videos_and_Shows_Nautilus_Steam_Deck_Linux_Action_News_The_Linu.gmi [14:32] TR Bot Tux Machines Videos and Shows: Nautilus, Steam Deck, Linux Action News, The Linux Link Tech Show, and More [14:33] TR News Uganda named worst digital rights violator https://observer.ug/news/headlines/75420-uganda-named-worst-digital-rights-violator Source: The Observer | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//observer.ug/news/headlines/75420-uganda-named-worst-digital-rights-violator [14:33] TR Bot reply from server ( status 0 @ https://observer.ug/news/headlines/75420-uganda-named-worst-digital-rights-violator ) [14:34] TR News Snal Linux 1.22 released https://snallinux.sourceforge.io/ https://sourceforge.net/p/snallinux/wiki/Home/ [14:34] TR Bot Linux download | SourceForge.net [14:34] TR Bot Snal Linux / Wiki / Home [14:39] TR News Say HEY HI a million times, get millions https://venturebeat.com/ai/ai-powered-supply-chain-visibility-boosted-as-altana-raises-100m/ [14:39] TR Bot supply chain visibility boosted as Altana raises $100M | VentureBeat [14:39] TR News (NEW): Open Hardware/Modding: Raspberry Pi, ARM, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Open_Hardware_Modding_Raspberry_Pi_ARM_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Open_Hardware_Modding_Raspberry_Pi_ARM_and_More.gmi [14:39] TR Bot Tux Machines Open Hardware/Modding: Raspberry Pi, ARM, and More [14:50] TR News Proprietary trash, shameless self-promotion: "Bill Reynolds, a DevOps engineer on UWMs platform automation team, co-authored this piece." https://containerjournal.com/features/how-uwm-optimizes-containerization-with-kubernetes/ [14:50] TR Bot How UWM Optimizes Containerization With Kubernetes - Container Journal [14:51] *frog has quit (connection closed) [14:52] *frog (~frog@4fs59tyu6ppds.irc) has joined #techrights [14:52] *matteo-bini (~matteo-bini@tecziqbycf9k2.irc) has joined #techrights [14:53] matteo-bini test [14:56] schestowitz[TR] ack [14:58] TR News (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/today_s_howtos.gmi [14:58] TR Bot Tux Machines today's howtos [14:59] TR News [GIT PULL for v6.1-rc1] media updates - Mauro Carvalho Chehab https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20221005102323.4f751c1a@sal.lan/ [14:59] TR Bot [GIT PULL for v6.1-rc1] media updates - Mauro Carvalho Chehab [14:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 23.53 k/sec., IPFS upstream 133.18 average k/sec., average swarm size 124.26 [14:59] TR News Re: Reg the next LTS kernel (6.1?) - Greg KH https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/Yz%2FZWBeNZvKenEVM@kroah.com/ "I usually pick the "last kernel of the year", and based on the normal release cycle, yes, 6.1 will be that kernel." [14:59] TR Bot Re: Reg the next LTS kernel (6.1?) - Greg KH ● Oct 07 [15:00] TR News "please pull the x86/cpu lineup for 6.1." https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/YzvzxYCBAPX47PTf@zn.tnic/ [15:00] TR Bot [GIT PULL] x86/cpu for 6.1 - Borislav Petkov [15:02] *phebus has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:02] TR News "But a lot of Web sites demand SMS text messaging, which isnt even secure." https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/10/07/blizzard-tried-to-make-it-mandatory-to-have-a-phone-for-2fa-with-overwatch-2-and-wasnt-allowing-people-with-cheap-prepaid-plans-to-authenticate-2fa-is-kind-of-dumb-if-you-use-text-messaging/ [15:02] TR Bot Blizzard tried to make it mandatory to have a phone for 2FA with Overwatch 2, and wasnt allowing people with cheap prepaid plans to authenticate. 2FA is kind of dumb if you use text messaging. | BaronHK's Rants [15:03] *phebus (~phebus@f95gnd3zj7732.irc) has joined #techrights [15:04] TR News Gulag is not investing, it is colonising. It's not Ubuntu. https://qz.com/google-s-africa-investments-hinge-on-ubuntu-1849625571 [15:04] TR Bot Googles Africa investments hinge on the spirit of Ubuntu [15:05] TR News iTWire - Maurice Blackburn files OAIC complaint over Optus data breach https://itwire.com/security/maurice-blackburn-files-oaic-complaint-over-optus-data-breach.html Source: IT Wire | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//itwire.com/security/maurice-blackburn-files-oaic-complaint-over-optus-data-breach.html [15:05] TR Bot - Maurice Blackburn files OAIC complaint over Optus data breach [15:05] TR News iTWire - Crowds to gather on Saturday to press for Assange freedom https://itwire.com/it-industry-news/strategy/crowds-to-gather-on-saturday-to-press-for-assange-freedom.html Source: IT Wire | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//itwire.com/it-industry-news/strategy/crowds-to-gather-on-saturday-to-press-for-assange-freedom.html [15:05] TR Bot - Crowds to gather on Saturday to press for Assange freedom [15:06] *parsifal (~parsifal@8vte7vm6885eu.irc) has joined #techrights [15:08] *parsifal has quit (Quit: Leaving) [15:08] TR News (NEW): Debian 12 Picks Up Ubuntu's Triple Buffering Patch for GNOME http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Debian_12_Picks_Up_Ubuntu_s_Triple_Buffering_Patch_for_GNOME.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Debian_12_Picks_Up_Ubuntu_s_Triple_Buffering_Patch_for_GNOME.gmi [15:08] TR Bot Tux Machines Debian 12 Picks Up Ubuntu's Triple Buffering Patch for GNOME [15:08] *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #techrights [15:08] *psymin (~psymin@user/psymin) has joined #techrights [15:15] TR News It looks like the editor of ZDNet only works 2 or at most 3 times a week. This makes the site unable to publish news. By the time of publication it's already days out of date. ZDNet operates on low budget and it'll die. [15:15] MinceR does zdnet publish news anyway? :> [15:16] schestowitz[TR] not really [15:16] schestowitz[TR] vista 11 celebrations [15:16] schestowitz[TR] 2.5% market share after more than a year [15:17] schestowitz[TR] zdnet=spam [15:17] MinceR lol [15:17] TR News "The Open Build Service (OBS) is a generic system to build and distribute packages from sources in an automatic, consistent and reproducible way. It makes it possible to release software for a wide range of operating systems and hardware architectures." https://www.suse.com/c/multi-factor-authentication-on-suses-build-service/ [15:18] TR Bot authentication on SUSE's Build Service | SUSE Communities [15:19] TR News SUSE keeps promoting proprietary software like SAP instead of "Linux"; for hosting it keeps promoting foreign and hostile companies like Microsoft https://www.suse.com/c/benefits-and-cost-savings-of-the-suse-and-intel-server-platform-for-sap-environments/ [15:19] TR Bot the benefits and cost savings of the SUSE and Intel Server Platform for SAP Environments | SUSE Communities [15:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [15:30] TR News (NEW): Gemini Articles of Interest http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Gemini_Articles_of_Interest.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Gemini_Articles_of_Interest.gmi [15:30] TR Bot Tux Machines Gemini Articles of Interest [15:30] TR News (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/today_s_leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/today_s_leftovers.gmi [15:30] TR Bot Tux Machines today's leftovers [15:30] TR News (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Security_Leftovers.gmi [15:30] TR Bot Tux Machines Security Leftovers [15:31] TR News Links 07/10/2022: LibreSSL 3.6.0 and VIsta 11 at Only 2.61% Market Share After 15 Months | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/07/libressl-3-6-0/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/07/libressl-3-6-0/ [15:31] TR Bot Links 07/10/2022: LibreSSL 3.6.0 and VIsta 11 at Only 2.61% Market Share After 15 Months | Techrights [15:43] TR News If only teaching paid more than it does gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/02/11.2 [15:44] TR News Personal Training gemini://spoony.smol.pub/personal-training [15:45] TR News "I quit my job and after one year Im unhappy, poorer and undisciplined :(" gemini://dk.flounder.online/gemlog/2022-10-07.gmi [15:47] TR News Making my Blog Mobile-Friendly gemini://raek.se/gemlog/2022-10-07-making-my-blog-mobile-friendly.gmi [15:48] TR News SpellBinding: AEMNRVU Wordo: GOEST gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-10-07.gmi [15:50] *frog has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:58] TR News Tar Command in Linux with Practical Examples https://www.linuxtechi.com/tar-command-in-linux-with-examples/ Source: LinuxTechi | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.linuxtechi.com/tar-command-in-linux-with-examples/ [15:58] TR Bot Tar Command in Linux with Practical Examples [15:59] *frog (~frog@nfww67wta6gsu.irc) has joined #techrights [15:59] TR News iTWire - New firm aims to help Huawei avoid US sanctions: claim https://itwire.com/technology-regulation/new-firm-aims-to-help-huawei-avoid-us-sanctions-claim.html Source: IT Wire | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//itwire.com/technology-regulation/new-firm-aims-to-help-huawei-avoid-us-sanctions-claim.html [15:59] TR Bot - New firm aims to help Huawei avoid US sanctions: claim ● Oct 07 [16:02] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #techrights [16:02] TR News Can you become the next Trombone Champ? | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/10/07/can-you-become-the-next-trombone-champ/ Source: Arduino | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/10/07/can-you-become-the-next-trombone-champ/ [16:02] TR Bot Can you become the next Trombone Champ? | Arduino Blog [16:03] TR News (NEW): Nala A Neat Structured Frontend for APT Package Manager http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Nala_A_Neat_Structured_Frontend_for_APT_Package_Manager.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Nala_A_Neat_Structured_Frontend_for_APT_Package_Manager.gmi [16:03] TR Bot Tux Machines Nala A Neat Structured Frontend for APT Package Manager [16:06] TR News Offline spam: Qt to help put ads inside software https://www.qt.io/blog/8-tips-for-improving-ux-with-qts-digital-advertising [16:06] TR Bot 8 Tips for Improving UX with Qt's Digital Advertising Platform [16:14] TR News Qt for Android Automotive 6.2.6 https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-for-android-automotive-6.2.6 [16:14] TR Bot Qt for Android Automotive 6.2.6 [16:18] *matteo-bini has quit (Quit: bye) [16:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [16:31] TR News 70: Razer and Logitech Put Steam Deck On Notice? - Hardware Addicts - TuxDigital https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/hardware-addicts/ha-70/ Source: Tux Digital | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//tuxdigital.com/podcasts/hardware-addicts/ha-70/ [16:31] TR Bot Razer and Logitech Put Steam Deck On Notice? - Hardware Addicts - TuxDigital [16:32] TR News "Chris Raspberry Pi server is dead, and Alex has a few ideas for his next build." https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/show/self-hosted/81/ [16:32] TR Bot The Badger Stack | Jupiter Broadcasting [16:34] TR News Atom is dead, bloated, and controlled by Microsoft, which formally abandoned it; what's the point giving it such promotion? https://www.ubuntupit.com/atom-vs-sublime/ [16:34] TR Bot Atom vs Sublime: Most Significant Differences You Should Know [16:36] TR News Asking Jim Zemlin what text editor he uses is like asking a Neanderthal what computer he or she uses. Zemlin has the technical skills of a 12 year old. http://techrights.org/2022/08/13/proprietary-keynote/ [16:36] TR Bot Jim Zemlin Giving His Talks on an Apple Mac Again? (July 2022) | Techrights [16:36] *frog has quit (Quit) [16:36] *frog (~frog@m5xis46sftpfi.irc) has joined #techrights [16:42] TR News Learn programming at Open Jam 2022 | https://opensource.com/article/22/10/open-jam-2022 Source: Open Source Initiative | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//opensource.com/article/22/10/open-jam-2022 [16:42] TR Bot programming at Open Jam 2022 | Opensource.com [16:43] TR News Dirk Eddelbuettel: Rblpapi 0.3.14: Updates and Extensions http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/blog/2022/10/06#rblpapi_0.3.14 [16:43] TR Bot Thinking inside the box [16:44] TR News OpenStack 'SLURP' ends requirement for six-monthly upgrades - El Reg https://www.theregister.com/2022/10/06/openstack_zed_slurp/ Source: The Register UK | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.theregister.com/2022/10/06/openstack_zed_slurp/ [16:44] TR Bot OpenStack 'SLURP' ends requirement for six-monthly upgrades The Register [16:46] TR News Red Hat has just said "GNU/Linux" https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/08/24/move-apt-dnf-package-management but Red Hat also defamed its founder [16:46] TR Bot Moving from apt to dnf package management | Red Hat Developer [16:46] TR News What's inside an RPM .repo file? https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/10/07/whats-inside-rpm-repo-file [16:46] TR Bot What's inside an RPM .repo file? | Red Hat Developer [16:47] TR News CPE Weekly Update Week 40 2022 - Fedora Community Blog https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/cpe-weekly-update-week-40-2022/ Source: fedoraproject | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//communityblog.fedoraproject.org/cpe-weekly-update-week-40-2022/ [16:47] TR Bot CPE Weekly Update Week 40 2022 Fedora Community Blog [16:49] TR News Re: Gemini is not decentralized gemini://thelambdalab.xyz/phlog/2022-10-07-Re:-Gemini-is-not-decentralized.txt [16:52] TR News Chaos with JS. Web pages and JS are NOT the same, they're almost opposites. https://medevel.com/grapesjs-2/ [16:52] TR Bot GrapesJS is A Developer-friendly Open Source Rrich Web Page Builder [16:53] TR News Back doors on board https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/10/07/up-element-i12-edge-computer-intel-nuc-12-compute-element/ [16:53] TR Bot UP Element i12 Edge embedded computer is equipped with Intel's NUC 12 Compute Element - CNX Software [16:54] TR News ICBM is, indeed, at a time of uncertainty... about its own future https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/10/empower-teams-uncertainty it is also destroying Red Hat [16:54] TR Bot 3 ways CIOs can empower their teams during uncertainty | The Enterprisers Project [16:54] starstreak Asking Jim Zemlin what text editor he uses is like asking a Neanderthal what computer he or she uses. Zemlin has the technical skills of a 12 year old. http://techrights.org/2022/08/13/proprietary-keynote/ <- they use a hive mind computer, underground [16:56] TR News GPL but connected to proprietary malware with holes and surveillance https://medevel.com/kiwi-sync/ [16:56] TR Bot Kiwi Sync: Backup and Sync your Chrome Profile and Bookmarks [16:57] TR News The licence of this does not matter much if it only works with spyware that harms the user. Making 'Free' extensions for proprietary software is a waste of time. https://medevel.com/marsort-extension/ [16:57] TR Bot Order and Organize your Chrome Bookmark Easily with Marksort [16:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.00 k/sec., IPFS upstream 202.68 average k/sec., average swarm size 123.98 ● Oct 07 [17:00] TR News "The Greek journalist Thanasis Koukakis was spied on by his own government, with a commercial spyware product called Predator. That product is sold by a company in North Macedonia called Cytrox, which is in turn owned by an Israeli company called Intellexa." https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/10/spyware-maker-intellexa-sued-by-journalist.html [17:00] TR Bot Maker Intellexa Sued by Journalist - Schneier on Security [17:01] TR News Thanasis Koukakis Sues Intellexa Over Predator Spyware https://gizmodo.com/thanasis-koukakis-sues-intellexa-over-predator-spyware-1849625793 Source: Gizmodo | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//gizmodo.com/thanasis-koukakis-sues-intellexa-over-predator-spyware-1849625793 [17:01] TR Bot Thanasis Koukakis Sues Intellexa Over Predator Spyware [17:01] TR News "Investigative journalist Thanasis Koukakis was under surveillance by Greece. Now hes decided to take Intellexa, the firm behind the Predator spyware allegedly used against him, and its owners to court" https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/security-aviation/2022-10-07/ty-article/.premium/criminal-allegations-against-israeli-linked-spyware-ex-intel-commander-in-hacking-scandal/00000183-ad14-d3f8-a9ef-bf5752e60000 [17:01] TR Bot NO TITLE [17:08] TR News "Smart homes, automotive and RISC-V took the headlines, with several announcements and press releases in each industry. Without further ado, lets dive straight into the most prominent news across the IoT landscape from the last month." https://ubuntu.com//blog/state-of-iot-september-2022 [17:08] TR Bot State of IoT September 2022 | Ubuntu [17:09] TR News "I figured out how to get openGL working in containers; achieved by mount-binding /dev/dri on /dev/dri inside the container. This is now a checkbox "3D graphics"..." https://bkhome.org/news/202210/opengl-fixed-in-containers.html [17:09] TR Bot OpenGL fixed in containers [17:10] TR News FOSS Weekly #22.37: Free Ubuntu Pro, Kernel 6.0, TUXEDO OS, Crossword, Btrfs and More https://news.itsfoss.com/foss-weekly-22-37/ [17:10] TR Bot FOSS Weekly #22.37: Free Ubuntu Pro, Kernel 6.0, TUXEDO OS, Crossword, Btrfs and More [17:11] TR News 'Linux' Foundation keeps attacking the "LINUX" brand while failing at trademark enforcement (when it is needed) as well https://www.papermag.com/linux-paris-fashion-week-2658406478.html [17:11] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.papermag.com/linux-paris-fashion-week-2658406478.html ) [17:12] TR News The deep, the shallow and the ugly (classes) | lichtkind [blogs.perl.org] http://blogs.perl.org/users/lichtkind/2022/10/previously-i-showed-a-bit.html Source: Perl | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?http%3A//blogs.perl.org/users/lichtkind/2022/10/previously-i-showed-a-bit.html [17:12] TR Bot deep, the shallow and the ugly (classes) | lichtkind [blogs.perl.org] [17:12] TR News Pepper&Carrot (heavy) derivation: the case of the succesful Bulgarian book publishing by Prikazka-Igra https://www.davidrevoy.com/article929/peppercarrot-heavy-derivation-the-case-of-the-succesful-bulgarian-book-publishing-by-prikazka-igra [17:12] TR Bot Pepper&Carrot (heavy) derivation: the case of the succesful Bulgarian book publishing by Prikazka-Igra - David Revoy [17:13] TR News Olimex ESP32-C3-DevKit-Lipo is a tiny RISC-V board with WiFi 4, Bluetooth 5.0, and a LiPo battery charger - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/10/07/olimex-esp32-c3-devkit-lipo-tiny-risc-v-board-wifi-4-bluetooth-5-0-lipo-battery-charger/ Source: CNX Software [17:13] TR Bot Olimex ESP32-C3-DevKit-Lipo is a tiny RISC-V board with WiFi 4, Bluetooth 5.0, and a LiPo battery charger - CNX Software [17:13] TR News "Something I could spot on the same page: "O, ..." (translated by "Oh God...") that are clearly not a choice of wording I would use as a die-hard atheist." https://www.davidrevoy.com/article929/peppercarrot-heavy-derivation-the-case-of-the-succesful-bulgarian-book-publishing-by-prikazka-igra [17:18] TR News (NEW): HEVC uAPI mainlined http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/HEVC_uAPI_mainlined.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/HEVC_uAPI_mainlined.gmi [17:18] TR Bot Tux Machines HEVC uAPI mainlined [17:18] TR News (NEW): Overhaul Enncryption Support in Kontact http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Overhaul_Enncryption_Support_in_Kontact.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Overhaul_Enncryption_Support_in_Kontact.gmi [17:18] TR Bot Tux Machines Overhaul Enncryption Support in Kontact [17:19] TR News "I had the privilege of presenting Unraveling Fence & RCU Mysteries (C++ Concurrency Fundamentals) to the CPP Summit. As the title suggests, this covered RCU from a C++ viewpoint." https://paulmck.livejournal.com/68686.html [17:19] TR Bot Stupid RCU Tricks: CPP Summit Presentation: paulmck LiveJournal [17:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. 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We would recommend, when using with wysiwyg tools or html editors, that you have to be very careful to paste unformatted text. Word uses a whole bunch of characters that are hidden by MS Words UI but are present if you copy the text." [17:24] schestowitz[TR] -from work [17:25] schestowitz[TR] some idiots pasting crap into Drupal [17:25] schestowitz[TR] breaking stuff [17:26] TR News An end to doomerism - Big Think https://bigthink.com/progress/pessimism-is-a-barrier-to-progress/ [17:26] TR Bot An end to doomerism - Big Think [17:26] TR News First make the change easy, then make the easy change https://www.adamtal.me/2019/05/first-make-the-change-easy-then-make-the-easy-change [17:26] TR Bot First make the change easy, then make the easy change [17:28] schestowitz[TR] https://lethain.com/staff-engineer-archetypes/ [17:28] TR Bot Staff engineer archetypes. | Irrational Exuberance [17:32] TR News Red Hat CEO on OpenShift roadmap, competitive play https://www.computerweekly.com/news/252525671/Red-Hat-CEO-on-OpenShift-roadmap-competitive-play Source: Computer Weekly | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.computerweekly.com/news/252525671/Red-Hat-CEO-on-OpenShift-roadmap-competitive-play [17:32] TR Bot Red Hat CEO on OpenShift roadmap, competitive play [17:32] TR News ICBM Red Hat parrots anti-FOSS propaganda and FUD terms like "supply chain" https://www.redhat.com/en/topics/security/what-is-software-supply-chain-security [17:32] TR Bot What is software supply chain security? [17:33] TR News ICBM is extinguishing Red Had. Cui bono? https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-storage-strategy-update [17:33] TR Bot Red Hat Storage strategy update [17:36] TR News "It is easy to get addicted to things; quitting is a bitch. And it feels awful to do something you know you shouldn't, be it using some substance, social media, eating meat, destructive behavior, or whatever." gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-10-07.quitting.gmi [17:37] TR News (NEW): Fedora / Red Hat / IBM Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Fedora_Red_Hat_IBM_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Fedora_Red_Hat_IBM_Leftovers.gmi [17:37] TR Bot Tux Machines Fedora / Red Hat / IBM Leftovers ● Oct 07 [18:15] TR News (NEW): TIDAL Hi-Fi Electron-based software for TIDAL http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/TIDAL_Hi_Fi_Electron_based_software_for_TIDAL.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/TIDAL_Hi_Fi_Electron_based_software_for_TIDAL.gmi [18:15] TR Bot Tux Machines TIDAL Hi-Fi Electron-based software for TIDAL [18:19] *highest_cubist_thrills (~highest_cubist_thri@f9425yedxz4nu.irc) has joined #techrights [18:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [18:22] highest_cubist_thrills xchm follows a familiar pattern [18:23] highest_cubist_thrills its based on wxwidgets, wxwidgets are github based, so xchm gets sucked towards the libraries it uses [18:23] highest_cubist_thrills im not saying that was the main factor, just a possible factor. hard to prove unless they state it in the mailing list [18:23] highest_cubist_thrills also with so many things moving TO github, its hard to say if this isnt a coincidence. but it is a pattern [18:24] highest_cubist_thrills and the sourceforge version, online earlier this year, was simply deleted [18:25] highest_cubist_thrills people dont move from github TO sourceforge. and i dont blame them. sourceforge is better than github but not by a lot [18:25] highest_cubist_thrills its bloated, old, and already stung people with the malware debacle under previous ownership [18:26] highest_cubist_thrills if people were leaving github, more people would leave. but since almost no ones leaving, people move TO it instead [18:26] highest_cubist_thrills that is, more people. its probably not as bad as it used to be-- whether because some interest has partially waned, or because everyone is there already :/ [18:29] schestowitz[TR] just did a video on FSF [18:29] schestowitz[TR] and how it is too quiet this year [18:31] TR News (NEW): 10 Essential Privacy and Security Apps for Linux Desktops http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/10_Essential_Privacy_and_Security_Apps_for_Linux_Desktops.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/10_Essential_Privacy_and_Security_Apps_for_Linux_Desktops.gmi [18:31] TR Bot Tux Machines 10 Essential Privacy and Security Apps for Linux Desktops [18:31] TR News (NEW): Stable Kernel: Linux 5.4.217 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Stable_Kernel_Linux_5_4_217.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Stable_Kernel_Linux_5_4_217.gmi [18:31] TR Bot Tux Machines Stable Kernel: Linux 5.4.217 [18:31] TR News (NEW): QOwnNotes http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/QOwnNotes.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/QOwnNotes.gmi [18:31] TR Bot Tux Machines QOwnNotes [18:40] TR News (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Android_Leftovers.1.gmi [18:40] TR Bot Tux Machines Android Leftovers [18:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 44.45 k/sec., IPFS upstream 226.21 average k/sec., average swarm size 120.75 ● Oct 07 [19:01] TR News Even Windows ME Was More Successful Than Microsofts Vista 11 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/07/windows-vista-11-failed/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/07/windows-vista-11-failed/ [19:01] TR Bot Even Windows ME Was More Successful Than Microsofts Vista 11 | Techrights [19:04] TR News Vista 11 has been out since the summer of 2021 and its market share is now estimated to be at 2.61%, probably due to a total lack of incentive to upgrade or purchase a new PC (with Vista 11 preinstalled against ones will) http://techrights.org/2022/10/07/windows-vista-11-failed/ [19:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [19:29] *highest_cubist_thrills has quit (connection closed) [19:39] TR News Binocular observation of Jupiter and the moon gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/users/solderpunk/gemlog/binocular-observation-of-jupiter-and-the-moon.gmi [19:40] TR News How to install Parrot 5.1 Security Edition - Invidious

Read on [19:40] TR Bot How to install Parrot 5.1 Security Edition - Invidious [19:40] TR News How to install Parrot 5.1 Security Edition - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=OVX4l3nPy2k | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/OVX4l3nPy2k [19:46] TR News Free Software Foundation Ought to Become More Active and Visible | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/07/free-software-foundation-less-vocal/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/07/free-software-foundation-less-vocal/ [19:46] TR Bot Free Software Foundation Ought to Become More Active and Visible | Techrights [19:48] TR News "I do think we need to think very hard before setting up camp in somebody else's computer." gemini://thelambdalab.xyz/phlog/2022-10-07-Re:-Gemini-is-not-decentralized.txt [19:48] TR News (NEW): Today in Techrights http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Today_in_Techrights.gmi [19:48] TR Bot Tux Machines Today in Techrights [19:51] TR News [PATCH 0/6] Enable LKGS instruction - Xin Li https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20221006154041.13001-1-xin3.li@intel.com/ Source: Thread/Kernel | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/20221006154041.13001-1-xin3.li@intel.com/ [19:51] TR Bot [PATCH 0/6] Enable LKGS instruction - Xin Li [19:52] TR News Biden signs Executive Order for EU-US data transfer deal: privacy and surveillance reforms missing - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/executive-order-eu-us-data-transfer-deal/ Source: AccessNow | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.accessnow.org/executive-order-eu-us-data-transfer-deal/ [19:52] TR Bot Biden signs Executive Order for EU-US data transfer deal: privacy and surveillance reforms missing - Access Now [19:53] TR News Fwupd 1.8.6 is out, but it's controlled by Microsoft's proprietary prison. Do you want your hardware controlled by that?!?! [19:58] TR News (NEW): EasyOS 4.4.1 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/EasyOS_4_4_1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/EasyOS_4_4_1.gmi [19:58] TR Bot Tux Machines EasyOS 4.4.1 [19:58] TR News The Free Software Foundation (FSF) has had a very quiet year; theres not much output and the founder of the Free Software Foundation, Richard Stallman, is barely visible (very few talks so far this year) http://techrights.org/2022/10/07/free-software-foundation-less-vocal/ ● Oct 07 [20:07] *immibis has quit (connection closed) [20:08] *immibis (~hexchat@6wevdscyutjfy.irc) has joined #techrights [20:11] *immibis_ has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [20:12] *immibis_ (~hexchat@i689751E6.versanet.de) has joined #techrights [20:19] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/22081211 [20:19] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/39hlmg449zg91.jpg created on 2022-08-12 03:32:59.109719 [20:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [20:23] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/22081210 [20:23] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.imgflip.com/6pjqut.jpg created on 2022-08-12 03:21:32.986923 [20:24] TR News A patch has been out for ages https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/hackers-exploiting-unpatched-rce-bug-in-zimbra-collaboration-suite/ [20:24] TR Bot Hackers exploiting unpatched RCE bug in Zimbra Collaboration Suite [20:25] TR News (NEW): 10 best Linux laptops to look for in 2022 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/10_best_Linux_laptops_to_look_for_in_2022.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/10_best_Linux_laptops_to_look_for_in_2022.gmi [20:25] TR Bot Tux Machines 10 best Linux laptops to look for in 2022 [20:26] TR News Fridays Fedora Facts: 2022-40 - Fedora Community Blog https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fridays-fedora-facts-2022-40/ Source: Fedora | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fridays-fedora-facts-2022-40/ [20:26] TR Bot Friday's Fedora Facts: 2022-40 Fedora Community Blog [20:27] TR News ICBM lock-infest https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/ansiblefest-2022-know-you-go [20:27] TR Bot AnsibleFest 2022: Know before you go [20:27] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@im24he94pn5u2.irc) has joined #techrights [20:28] TR News Microsoft is not confidential. It is an NSA facilitator. Many of these companies only pretend to value security. https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/what-confidential-containers-project [20:28] TR Bot What is the Confidential Containers project? [20:28] TR News We the People Are All in This Together - YES! Magazine https://www.yesmagazine.org/opinion/2022/10/07/climate-ecological-civilization Source: YES! Magazine | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.yesmagazine.org/opinion/2022/10/07/climate-ecological-civilization [20:28] TR Bot We the People Are All in This Together - YES! Magazine [20:29] TR News Confidential Containers (CoCo) is protected by a CoC, so pointing out these companies commit crimes and also spy on you (while lying to you about it) would get you ousted [20:30] DaemonFC +// SPDX-License-Identifier: Apache-2.0 OR MIT [20:30] TR News CoC in practice (de facto): stop telling people about my white-collar crimes or I'll get you in big trouble [20:30] DaemonFC They're also trying to get rid of the GPL from all of this kernel stuff apparently. [20:30] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: kernel? [20:31] schestowitz[TR] kernel is strictly gplv2 [20:31] DaemonFC Yeah, at least with the Rust support. [20:31] schestowitz[TR] ah [20:31] schestowitz[TR] yes, f***Ers [20:31] schestowitz[TR] it'll spread the anti-gpl licences "like a cancer" [20:31] schestowitz[TR] starting from rust.github [20:31] schestowitz[TR] Gulag hates gpl [20:31] MinceR CoCoCoC [20:31] schestowitz[TR] and started this rust thingm [20:32] schestowitz[TR] via mozilla the fake incubator [20:32] schestowitz[TR] MinceR: FINAL VVOORNING!! [20:32] MinceR CoCadoodledoo [20:33] schestowitz[TR] cancel crowd [20:33] schestowitz[TR] starting with the assumption women need a CoC [20:33] schestowitz[TR] for safety [20:33] schestowitz[TR] from men [20:33] schestowitz[TR] who are not "missing out" [20:34] DaemonFC All of the people in San Francisco who were laughing about "Dey took mah jerb! DERKA DERRRR!" are losing their jobs now. [20:34] schestowitz[TR] "your project needs a CoC to protect women from transphobes like me" [20:34] DaemonFC mjg59_: Ask your friends how it feels for me. B-) [20:35] DaemonFC https://www.techinasia.com/cryptocom-lays-2000-employees-dials-marketing-efforts [20:35] TR Bot Tech in Asia - Connecting Asia's startup ecosystem [20:35] DaemonFC Crypto dot com just fired 1,200 people in Singapore. [20:36] DaemonFC "about 30% to 40% of its total workforce" [20:36] schestowitz[TR] "For the week ending October 1, total initial jobless claims were 219,000, more than analysts expected and up from 190,000 the previous week." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/06/us-jobless-claims-jump-fed-shoves-economy-precipice-global-recession | Source: Common Dreams [20:36] TR Bot US Jobless Claims Jump as Fed Shoves Economy to 'Precipice of Global Recession' [20:37] DaemonFC https://layoffstracker.com/peloton-lays-off-500-more-employees/ [20:37] TR Bot Lays off 500 more employees - LayoffsTracker [20:37] DaemonFC This is on top of that huge layoff a few months ago. [20:37] DaemonFC They do it in stages to draw less attention, like Microsoft. [20:38] TR News Free software incident response solutions https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/open-source-incident-response-solutions Source: Red Hat Official | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.redhat.com/en/blog/open-source-incident-response-solutions [20:38] TR Bot Open source incident response solutions [20:39] DaemonFC Tempo (Fitness San Francisco) lays off 50. [20:39] DaemonFC Internal memo on LinkedIn. [20:39] TR News Fish shell now has underscore as a number separator (my feature request) https://edwardbetts.com/blog/fish-shell-underscore-number-separator/ Source: Edward Betts | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//edwardbetts.com/blog/fish-shell-underscore-number-separator/ [20:39] TR Bot Fish shell now has underscore as a number separator (my feature request) [20:39] TR News AMD does not count on Microsoft and Windows? https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/10/07/datacenter-will-be-amds-largest-and-most-profitable-business/ [20:39] TR Bot Datacenter Will Be AMDs Largest And Most Profitable Business [20:40] DaemonFC Sprurce Title (New York, Real Estate) laid off 150 Source: LinkedIn [20:40] DaemonFC *Spruce [20:40] DaemonFC Fivetran (San Francisco, Data) 50, LinkedIn [20:40] schestowitz[TR] LinkedIn fires LinkedIn staff [20:40] schestowitz[TR] agtain [20:40] schestowitz[TR] and again [20:40] schestowitz[TR] Microsoft is a catastrophe [20:41] DaemonFC Active Campaign, Chicago, Marketing, Unknown number. LinkedIn [20:41] schestowitz[TR] 20,000 alyoffs almost [20:41] schestowitz[TR] media... silent [20:41] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR]: Layoffs at Spotify. [20:41] DaemonFC Out, out damned Spotify! [20:41] schestowitz[TR] those companies you mention... those people likely have kids and a mortgage [20:41] schestowitz[TR] so next comes the prozac [20:41] schestowitz[TR] of course [20:41] schestowitz[TR] spotify doesn't make money [20:41] schestowitz[TR] or barely [20:42] DaemonFC https://techcrunch.com/2022/10/06/spotify-cancels-11-original-podcasts-lays-off-under-5-of-staff/ [20:42] TR Bot cancels 11 original podcasts, lays off under 5% of podcast staff TechCrunch [20:42] schestowitz[TR] good [20:42] schestowitz[TR] DRM and spying [20:42] schestowitz[TR] good riddance [20:42] DaemonFC https://www.gamesindustry.biz/multiple-editorial-staff-laid-off-at-vice [20:42] TR Bot editorial staff laid off at Vice | GamesIndustry.biz [20:42] DaemonFC 20-30 layoffs at VICE. [20:42] schestowitz[TR] so it'll be more dead than it already is [20:42] DaemonFC A gaming magazine that is very friendly to Microsoft. [20:42] schestowitz[TR] yeah [20:42] schestowitz[TR] led the attack on RMS [20:43] schestowitz[TR] along with Rupert Murdoch media [20:43] DaemonFC "Two writers and audience development manager let go in latest media redundancies" [20:43] schestowitz[TR] to distract from bill gatea and epstein imho [20:43] schestowitz[TR] I told rms before it happeend [20:43] DaemonFC https://www.businessinsider.com/impossible-lays-off-6-in-reorganization-under-ceo-mcguinness-2022-10 [20:43] TR Bot Impossible Lays Off 6% in Reorganization Under CEO McGuinness [20:43] schestowitz[TR] that's... impossible [20:43] *qbert (~q@freenode/user/qbert) has joined #techrights [20:43] DaemonFC Impossible (fake) meats lays off 52 in San Francisco. [20:43] DaemonFC Less Creepy Uncle Bill Lab Garbage. [20:43] schestowitz[TR] ha [20:44] schestowitz[TR] yuppie "premium" shit won;'t sell well now [20:44] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR]: Beyond and Impossible are both in deep shit. [20:44] DaemonFC Taco Bell got Beyond by the balls on that fake steak deal for their burritos, I'm hearing. [20:44] schestowitz[TR] beyond words [20:44] schestowitz[TR] it's impossible to sell [20:45] DaemonFC Beyond was building more manufacturing expecting a huge McDonald's deal for a McPlant. [20:45] DaemonFC Then the McPlant failed big time in the test markets. [20:45] DaemonFC McDonald's test market for the McPlant was all these big Democrat cities. [20:45] DaemonFC They had them in Chicago but I didn't order any. [20:46] DaemonFC I tried Beyond Beef once during the pandemic. By itself it tastes pretty off. You have to disguise that with a lot of spices in your recipe. [20:46] schestowitz[TR] sold by Creepy [20:46] schestowitz[TR] who himself eats cow [20:46] schestowitz[TR] and loved beef [20:46] schestowitz[TR] but... patents [20:46] schestowitz[TR] writes books on climate change [20:47] schestowitz[TR] pullutes the planet the most [20:47] schestowitz[TR] with 4 ircrafst [20:47] schestowitz[TR] that he barely erven uses [20:47] DaemonFC StitchFix, San Francisco, e-commerce, layoffs: 56 [20:47] schestowitz[TR] becaause jeff has better crafts... with kids in them [20:47] DaemonFC https://layoffstracker.com/ [20:47] TR Bot Track all Tech & Startup layoffs globally [20:47] DaemonFC Real Estate, marketing, apps, crypto.....doing very badly. [20:47] schestowitz[TR] "apps" [20:47] schestowitz[TR] "look, we have users" [20:48] schestowitz[TR] (no money) [20:48] DaemonFC And the layoffs are centered on a few big Democrat cities like San Francisco, Seattle, and New York. [20:48] DaemonFC But SF is ground zero for the layoffs. [20:48] schestowitz[TR] no, wait [20:48] schestowitz[TR] you miss the pointm [20:48] schestowitz[TR] you named big tech cities [20:48] schestowitz[TR] not democratm cities [20:48] schestowitz[TR] and yes, tech people tend to vote this way [20:48] schestowitz[TR] but the commonality here is the setor [20:48] schestowitz[TR] not the political orientation [20:49] TR News Top 14 New Games You Can Play on Linux with Proton - October 2022 Edition - Boiling Steam https://boilingsteam.com/top-14-new-games-you-can-play-on-linux-with-proton-october-2022-edition/ Source: Boiling Steam | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//boilingsteam.com/top-14-new-games-you-can-play-on-linux-with-proton-october-2022-edition/ [20:49] TR Bot Top 14 New Games You Can Play on Linux with Proton - October 2022 Edition - Boiling Steam [20:51] TR News SUSE thinks it's a subsidiary of SAP. Wait, maybe it is... https://www.suse.com/c/join-suse-at-sapinsider-emea-nov-15-17-in-vienna/ [20:51] TR Bot SUSE at SAPinsider EMEA Nov 15-17 in Vienna | SUSE Communities [20:53] TR News "I've bought a pocket calculator / scientific calculator to use instead of relying on a computer or smartphone, it's a refreshing experience." gemini://altesq.net/~evenfire/posts/pocket-calculator.gmi [20:54] TR News (NEW): Fedora / Red Hat / IBM http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Fedora_Red_Hat_IBM.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Fedora_Red_Hat_IBM.gmi [20:54] TR Bot Tux Machines Fedora / Red Hat / IBM [20:57] TR News Since When Does the IMF Care About Inequality? - The Atlantic https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/10/imf-uk-tax-cuts-inequality-neoliberalism/671651/?utm_source=feed Source: The Atlantic [20:57] TR Bot Since When Does the IMF Care About Inequality? - The Atlantic [20:57] DaemonFC Tech people seem to vote that way because they condescend. [20:57] TR News Is This the End of Socialism for the Rich? was the original headline from Yanis Varoufakis [20:58] DaemonFC They don't see the actual harm that their voting causes to the people they claim to care about. [20:58] TR News "A year later, in a telephone conversation among senior IMF staff published by WikiLeaks, its European chief told a colleague that the IMF should confront the German chancellor..." https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/10/imf-uk-tax-cuts-inequality-neoliberalism/671651/?utm_source=feed [20:58] DaemonFC For every one right expanded, society as a whole suffers until the only people enjoying these new rights are the ones with lots of money. [20:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 72.85 k/sec., IPFS upstream 260.68 average k/sec., average swarm size 82.78 [20:59] TR News "In 2010, WikiLeaks began disclosing the contents of diplomatic cables, leading government officials to criticize credit card companies for allowing people to donate to the organization. Visa, Mastercard, and PayPal soon suspended WikiLeaks' accounts." https://reason.com/volokh/2022/10/03/fire-statement-on-free-speech-and-online-payment-processors/ [20:59] TR Bot "FIRE Statement on Free Speech and Online Payment Processors" [20:59] DaemonFC Trump actually lowered our taxes by about 95%. What am I supposed to say about that? [20:59] DaemonFC Even the Democrats know they'll have a riot on their hands if they try to take that back. ● Oct 07 [21:00] schestowitz[TR] how will you pay the national debt? [21:00] DaemonFC The national debt has only been paid once, and it was like over 100 years before I was born. [21:00] DaemonFC And what followed was a severe national recession. [21:01] DaemonFC If you look at debt to GDP ratio, the UK is in a similar place to the US. [21:01] DaemonFC Like, +/- a few percent. Negligible. [21:02] TR News "Canonical has released the beta build of Ubuntu 22.10, the next release of their Ubuntu Linux distribution. Ahead of its October 20, 2022 release, we check out the Kinetic Kudu to see whats new." https://www.howtogeek.com/837565/whats-new-in-ubuntu-22.10-kinetic-kudu/ [21:02] TR Bot Whats New in Ubuntu 22.10 Kinetic Kudu [21:02] schestowitz[TR] GDP is fake [21:02] schestowitz[TR] it's based on false self-evaluations [21:03] schestowitz[TR] now, we could argue how much each nation does it [21:03] schestowitz[TR] inc. japan and china\ [21:03] DaemonFC Mandy still has no idea of how our system of government works. He asks about the death sentence and he doesn't realize that every state has its own laws and it's all about how they feel like dealing with the ultimate scum in their jurisdiction. [21:03] DaemonFC I told him "Some states have it, those that do execute prisoners differently. Some European drug companies tried to get in the way, so they're bringing back firing squads and gas chambers.". [21:04] DaemonFC And rightly so. [21:04] TR News This sucks. mycomputertips used to cover GNU/Linux, now it's some HTML crap : https://www.mycomputertips.co.uk/322 https://www.mycomputertips.co.uk/321 [21:04] TR Bot Use the HTML tag to highlight text on your webpages, HTML [21:04] TR Bot Using the HTML tag to show keyboard shortcuts in your webpages, HTML [21:04] DaemonFC Leftists go "That's terrible!", but when you get to it and look at people like Ted Bundy and John Wayne Gacy (who was executed before Illinois stopped doing it), would you want any of those back? [21:04] DaemonFC Or would you be glad they're gone? [21:05] DaemonFC Gacy was executed in 1996 after raping and killing young gay men, mostly gay men, and teenagers, and burying them under his house in a Chicago suburb. [21:05] DaemonFC They dug up dozens, and he told them there were more they'd never find. [21:05] DaemonFC Why shouldn't the state have gotten rid of him? [21:07] DaemonFC Nobody has an answer for that. [21:07] TR News "Bash provides a large number of options that can be used to control the behavior of bash scripts. This post examines some of the more useful ones and explains how to display which options are in use and which are not." https://www.networkworld.com/article/3675561/using-bash-options-to-change-the-behavior-of-scripts.html [21:07] TR Bot Using bash options to change the behavior of scripts | Network World [21:08] DaemonFC mjg59_: Would you prefer the alternate universe where the Illinois Parole Board let John Wayne Gacy out because he'd served 20 years of his sentence and then we find out he's burying them in the Cook County Forest Preserves now? [21:08] DaemonFC Or are you glad he's gone and will never be a threat again? [21:08] XRevan86 https://newsweek.com/1614532 Newsweek is an interesting place. [21:08] TR News Forbes has had zero articles about Linux in nearly 2 months. This site is dying. https://www.forbes.com/search/?sort=recent&q=linux&sh=45b26491279f [21:08] TR Bot The Case for the Unconstitutionality of Abortion | Opinion [21:08] TR Bot Search [21:09] TR News (NEW): Best email client for Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Best_email_client_for_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Best_email_client_for_Linux.gmi [21:09] DaemonFC Unfortunately, the state is just letting hundreds of these people pile up in prison and go before leftists who let them out. [21:09] TR Bot Tux Machines Best email client for Linux [21:09] DaemonFC So Gacy's gone but we have a big problem. [21:09] DaemonFC During 2020 they let an ax murderer and a guy who raped and murdered a 16 year old in 1972 out of prison. [21:10] DaemonFC They lost both. Never appeared to their parole officer's meeting. [21:10] DaemonFC Still haven't found either of them. [21:10] TR News "Larry Ellisons total compensation grew by about 12 times the amount seen the year prior." While the company is failing. https://www.computing.co.uk/news/4057266/oracles-executives-2022 http://techrights.org/wiki/Oracle [21:10] TR Bot See how much Oracle's top executives made in 2022 [21:10] TR Bot Oracle - Techrights [21:10] DaemonFC Things got so bad that the DEMOCRATS refused to install their own governor's latest appointment to the Parole Board to shut it down for lack of a quorum! [21:10] DaemonFC Yet, we're supposed to give this fucker, Pritzker, another term? [21:11] DaemonFC I changed my mind and ended up voting for Darren Bailey in the end, damn it to hell. [21:11] DaemonFC I am so sick of Pritzker that I don't even care what comes next. [21:11] DaemonFC I hope Bailey wins and gets into a food fight with the Democrats. [21:12] DaemonFC If Bailey wins, it'll probably be recount close. [21:13] DaemonFC Within 0.5% triggers an automatic recount at the state's expense unless one of the candidates waives it and accepts the first results. [21:14] DaemonFC We have that because recounts of an entire state do tend to change the results by several hundred votes. It's just unavoidable. Ballot scanning problems, challenged ballots (where the intent of the voter, legally, is what matters, and judges end up deciding what it was). [21:15] DaemonFC To box the judges in, you need to make your intent absolutely clear. Which means, like, no marking one candidate, drawing an X through it, and filling in another circle. Otherwise, they're going to go to war over what your ballot meant if there's a recount. [21:16] DaemonFC Some people do weird things on their ballot. Legally, at least in this state, you can write-in a candidate's name even if they're already on the ballot as a named candidate. But then you just create more odds your ballot won't be scanned properly and will result in an undervote instead of a poll worker looking at it and recording it properly. [21:17] DaemonFC They really need to get rid of these computers entirely. [21:17] DaemonFC But they don't because it's faster and cheaper, and they're willing to live with inaccuracies that could actually change some outcomes. [21:18] TR News NFS vs SMB vs CIFS: File storage protocols defined https://www.computerweekly.com/feature/NFS-vs-SMB-vs-CIFS-File-storage-protocols-defined [21:18] TR Bot NFS vs SMB vs CIFS: File storage protocols defined [21:18] DaemonFC Illinois is wonky. It counts ballots that arrive up to 14 days late, as long as they're postmarked by 5 PM on election day. [21:18] DaemonFC Democrats tend to be lazy and wait until the last minute to do anything. [21:18] DaemonFC So suddenly there's this avalanche of late ballots that are almost all for Democrats. [21:19] TR News Compare container orchestrators Apache Mesos vs. Kubernetes

Read on [21:19] TR Bot Compare container orchestrators Apache Mesos vs. Kubernetes [21:19] DaemonFC Many states don't do this. In Indiana, it has to be at the polling place by 5 PM or the vote doesn't count. [21:19] TR News Openwashing polluters while misuing the "Linux" brand (using it up... to the point where it means nothing) https://www.computerweekly.com/news/252525799/Oil-giant-Shell-lends-support-to-LF-Energy-in-its-open-source-power-networks-push [21:19] TR Bot Oil giant Shell lends support to LF Energy in its open source power networks push [21:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [21:20] DaemonFC They tell everyone mail it at least 7 days before election day and if it's not there on time that's your problem. [21:20] DaemonFC If you don't do that, you need to hand deliver it. [21:20] TR News LF is just an openwashing PR company. Openwashing as in lying. Calling proprietary "open". [21:20] DaemonFC I got my ballot on the 30th of September and it was back in the mail on October 1st. [21:21] DaemonFC I mean, how hard is it? Honestly? [21:21] DaemonFC Illinois courts work like this too. If you're 3 hours late, they don't care. They'll just call your case when everyone finally makes it in. [21:21] DaemonFC In Indiana, they slam the door shut and issue a warrant for your arrest. [21:26] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:28] *swaggboi has quit (Quit: C-x C-c) [21:30] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@3dfbakv35ftxu.irc) has joined #techrights [21:32] schestowitz[TR] wb [21:33] schestowitz[TR] sorry, was budy with links [21:33] schestowitz[TR] *busy [21:33] schestowitz[TR] we'll run a pluton article shortly [21:33] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:34] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@ir6r8ntjse2ha.irc) has joined #techrights [21:37] TR News Google delays adblock's death, New Nvidia driver, Debian goes non free - Linux and Open Source News - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=xO2bJtXqtHg | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/xO2bJtXqtHg [21:37] TR Bot Google delays adblock's death, New Nvidia driver, Debian goes non free - Linux and Open Source News - Invidious [21:39] schestowitz[TR] attack surface is one heck of a drug, starstreak [21:39] TR News LHS Episode #483: LHS4EVA | Linux in the Ham Shack https://lhspodcast.info/2022/10/lhs-episode-483-lhs4eva-2/ Source: Linux in the Ham Shack | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lhspodcast.info/2022/10/lhs-episode-483-lhs4eva-2/ [21:39] TR Bot LHS Episode #483: LHS4EVA | Linux in the Ham Shack [21:40] TR News Patched ages ago https://duo.com/decipher/researchers-warn-of-unpatched-actively-exploited-zimbra-flaw [21:40] TR Bot Researchers Warn of Unpatched, Actively Exploited Zimbra Flaw | Decipher [21:41] TR News (NEW): Linux Kernel 6.0 Officially Released, This Is Whats New http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/02/Linux_Kernel_6_0_Officially_Released_This_Is_What_s_New.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/02/Linux_Kernel_6_0_Officially_Released_This_Is_What_s_New.gmi [21:41] TR Bot Tux Machines Linux Kernel 6.0 Officially Released, This Is Whats New [21:43] TR News Country that engages in election meddling all around the world claims to be protecting integrity of elections https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/10/07/fbi-and-cisa-publish-psa-information-manipulation-tactics-2022 [21:43] TR Bot FBI and CISA Publish a PSA on Information Manipulation Tactics for 2022 Midterm Elections | CISA [21:43] TR News James Burton is giving legs their snakes back | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/10/07/james-burton-is-giving-legs-their-snakes-back/ Source: Arduino | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/10/07/james-burton-is-giving-legs-their-snakes-back/ [21:43] TR Bot James Burton is giving legs their snakes back | Arduino Blog [21:43] *swaggboi (~swaggboi@slackware.uk/supporter/swaggboi) has joined #techrights [21:44] TR News "The world would be a much better place if everyone could wake according to their own natural circadian rhythm and natural sunlight peeking through their window. But the world doesnt work like that and many people have to force themselves awake." https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/10/07/this-gorgeous-headboard-simulates-sunrises/ [21:44] TR Bot This gorgeous headboard simulates sunrises | Arduino Blog [21:45] TR News Reproducible Builds (diffoscope): diffoscope 224 released https://diffoscope.org/news/diffoscope-224-released/ [21:45] TR Bot diffoscope 224 released [21:45] TR News Librem 5- Device Overview - Purism https://puri.sm/posts/librem-5-device-overview/ Source: Purism | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//puri.sm/posts/librem-5-device-overview/ [21:45] TR Bot Librem 5- Device Overview Purism [21:48] starstreak attack surface is one heck of a drug, starstreak <- XD [21:48] TR News Akademy Awards 2022 .... with a K https://euroquis.nl//kde/2022/10/07/awards.html [21:48] TR Bot Akademy Awards 2022 | [bobulate] [21:48] TR News (NEW): This Week in GNOME #64 Everything Green Again! http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/This_Week_in_GNOME_64_Everything_Green_Again.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/This_Week_in_GNOME_64_Everything_Green_Again.gmi [21:48] TR Bot Tux Machines This Week in GNOME #64 Everything Green Again! [21:49] starstreak linucks [21:49] MinceR btw [21:49] TR News Plop Boot Manager boots PCs off media they can't start from - El Reg https://www.theregister.com/2022/10/07/plop_boot_manager_boot_a/ Source: The Register UK | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.theregister.com/2022/10/07/plop_boot_manager_boot_a/ [21:49] TR Bot Plop Boot Manager boots PCs off media they can't start from The Register [21:51] TR News The 'Great Decline' of High Capacity Disk Drive Sales - Random [Tech] Stuff https://koutoupis.com/2022/10/07/the-great-decline-of-high-capacity-disk-drive-sales/ Source: Petros Koutoupis | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//koutoupis.com/2022/10/07/the-great-decline-of-high-capacity-disk-drive-sales/ [21:51] TR Bot The Great Decline of High Capacity Disk Drive Sales Random [Tech] Stuff [21:52] TR News "Under the two currently available categories Kubernetes and Linux, we have already published 50+ documentsexpect more to be posted during the next few weeks." https://www.suse.com/c/meet-the-latest-suse-documentation-accrual/ [21:52] TR Bot the latest SUSE documentation "accrual" | SUSE Communities [21:54] TR News Michael Larabel: "systemd 252-rc1 Introduces New systemd-measure Tool, Other New Features" ... "PCR measurements to make it easier facilitating TPM2 policies. " Microsoft systemd now pushing TPM2 into Linux.. oh, dear! [21:55] TR News Clown edge https://containerjournal.com/features/spectro-cloud-strengthens-kubernetes-security-at-the-network-edge/ [21:55] TR Bot Spectro Cloud Strengthens Kubernetes Security at the Network Edge - Container Journal [21:57] TR News Man arrives at scene. Dolls torn apart. The circus is over. They said the "data is in the clown". Chaos ensued. [21:58] TR News Outsourcing to the clown = committing a security breach. [21:59] *betsy (~igloo@d9tvs44uyg5y6.irc) has joined #techrights ● Oct 07 [22:01] *betsy has quit (connection closed) [22:02] *betsy (~igloo@d9tvs44uyg5y6.irc) has joined #techrights [22:11] TR News (NEW): Open Hardware/Modding: Librem, Arduino, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Open_Hardware_Modding.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Open_Hardware_Modding.gmi [22:11] TR Bot Tux Machines Open Hardware/Modding: Librem, Arduino, and More [22:11] *betsy has quit (connection closed) [22:14] TR News (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/today_s_howtos.1.gmi [22:14] TR Bot Tux Machines today's howtos [22:15] DaemonFC I got around to de-icing about half the chest freezer. [22:15] DaemonFC I'm going to do the other half after I finish drawing it down some more. [22:15] TR News Seems like Nat Friedman (Microsoft, GitHub) is employing a PR firm to do reputation laundering for him in Wikipedia. Sorry to say this, but Wikipedia has become an utter joke. It's run by PR firms and corporations/governments that employ them. [22:16] TR News Everything is down, eh? https://koutoupis.com/2022/10/07/the-great-decline-of-high-capacity-disk-drive-sales/ the peak is behind us. [22:17] TR News ZDNet this week: we use a stock of Chinese ladies for photographs, but we employ nobody Chinese and we barely have female writers. ZDNet is a joke. [22:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. 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[22:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 96.53 k/sec., IPFS upstream 231.31 average k/sec., average swarm size 83.15 [22:59] MinceR i would have thought that the only thing that's beyond impossible is the possible [22:59] DaemonFC fixing typos ● Oct 07 [23:00] *techuser has quit (connection closed) [23:00] *techuser (~techuser@3epy783jsvpvq.irc) has joined #techrights [23:02] TR News Bill Gates Evil Prophecy: Blocking GNU/Linux From New PCs | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/07/bill-gates-evil-prophecy-blocking-gnulinux-from-new-pcs/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/07/bill-gates-evil-prophecy-blocking-gnulinux-from-new-pcs/ [23:02] TR Bot Bill Gates Evil Prophecy: Blocking GNU/Linux From New PCs | Techrights [23:03] DaemonFC "Now they're launching a "Beyond Steak" at Taco Bell. Most people who go to Taco Bell are "high af", as the cool kids call it these days, and usually at 3 AM, and they're not going to order a Beyond Steak taco." [23:04] DaemonFC "From the get go, vegans and vegetarians complained that they weren't going to order any of it from a fast food restaurant that grilled it on the same grill they just has actual meat on, and meat eaters aren't going to order fake burger unless it was a one off thing to amuse themselves out of curiosity. " [23:04] highest_cubist_thrills the universe itself is clearly impossible [23:04] DaemonFC "I ordered an Impossible Whopper (with cheese) once to see how they tasted. I thought it was fairly close, but a real Whopper with cheese tastes better and doesn't come at a cost premium." [23:04] highest_cubist_thrills im a pessimist, i deal in likelihoods mostly [23:04] DaemonFC "Political conservatives certainly aren't going to be the customer for this stuff. They see "switching" as degrading their masculinity and propping up "liberals in San Francisco" and "Bill Gates". " [23:04] DaemonFC "The only thing most people seem to agree on is that once you know more about Bill Gates than his "reading list" puff pieces, the more you dislike him." [23:04] highest_cubist_thrills but technically once the impossible is done, anything is probably possible [23:04] highest_cubist_thrills i mean, how the fuck does a rock exist [23:05] highest_cubist_thrills or a grain of sand-- its fucking ridiculous [23:05] schestowitz[TR] did he graduate from college yet? [23:05] schestowitz[TR] "tell me what he reads... so I can become rich like him!!" [23:05] DaemonFC "The US economy is in serious trouble, and the media (to protect Democrats mainly) won't admit it, especially with the election coming up. They already know the results will be a Democrat wipeout, but they're hoping to contain the damage by blaming people being laid off for their own layoffs, faking unemployment numbers, saying that we don't even know if we're in a recession or bickering... [23:05] DaemonFC ...about what the textbook definition of hyperinflation is when most Americans agree things are really really bad at the stores. " [23:05] highest_cubist_thrills a grain of sand mocks all probability [23:05] DaemonFC "Like the bag of potato chips that used to be 15 ounces, but is now 7.5 ounces at the same price. Most things have gotten that way. Rent, your whole grocery bill, the cost to keep the lights on and the car gassed up. " [23:05] DaemonFC "That's another problem for fake meat. It's an expensive novelty, and you'll have a hard time selling it in this economy." [23:05] DaemonFC "The lying media is irritating people and there will be political consequences very shortly because nobody believes the bullshit and the Billshit that the media is peddling about these things anymore." [23:06] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR]: Remember those 90s bags of chips where you got like two pounds of chips in the bag and it was $1.89? [23:06] schestowitz[TR] they are cheap to make [23:06] DaemonFC Now you get less than 1/4 of the chips and it's $3.47. [23:06] schestowitz[TR] potato starcch [23:06] schestowitz[TR] salt [23:06] schestowitz[TR] some more chemicals [23:07] schestowitz[TR] they should be like 10 cents a bag [23:07] schestowitz[TR] the bag should be more expensive than its contents [23:07] highest_cubist_thrills they should cost 5 cents [23:07] MinceR they should cost 2.5 cents! [23:07] DaemonFC Mom said grandpa bought them a bag of chips while they were on vacation back in the 60s. They opened it up and there was a chunk of wood in the bag with the chips. [23:07] highest_cubist_thrills they should be like 10 cents a bag <- id gladly pay 20p for tayto crisps though [23:07] DaemonFC :) [23:08] highest_cubist_thrills cheese and onion ftw [23:16] schestowitz[TR] "ftw" lol [23:16] schestowitz[TR] cheese and btw onion too [23:16] *betsy has quit (connection closed) [23:17] highest_cubist_thrills cheese and onion bftw [23:19] schestowitz[TR] aka chemicals that, when put together, taste sort of like onion [23:19] schestowitz[TR] and kind of like cheese [23:19] schestowitz[TR] you popcorn rianne bought "cheese powder" [23:19] highest_cubist_thrills obviously [23:19] schestowitz[TR] it's like that stuff they put on cheetos [23:19] highest_cubist_thrills real onions are made of chemicals too [23:20] schestowitz[TR] you can almost suffocate on it [23:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [23:20] schestowitz[TR] if it blowns up in the air [23:20] highest_cubist_thrills many organic powders are explosive [23:20] DaemonFC Yeah, they over flavor a lot of the chips. [23:20] highest_cubist_thrills flour is ground wheat. its explosive as fuck [23:20] schestowitz[TR] it's addictive this way [23:20] DaemonFC I usually get the lightly salted ones because the regular are so salty it's like eating a bowl of salt. [23:20] schestowitz[TR] not sure how they do it [23:20] DaemonFC It's horrible. [23:20] highest_cubist_thrills you have to be really careful with stuff like that in factories etc [23:21] schestowitz[TR] highest_cubist_thrills: we went to a chinee store on the anniversary [23:21] schestowitz[TR] and they had this msg thing [23:21] highest_cubist_thrills hahahaha [23:21] schestowitz[TR] I saw the crystals for these first time [23:21] schestowitz[TR] umami... then checked in wikipedia [23:21] schestowitz[TR] looks weeeeeelllllllll dodgy [23:21] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [23:21] highest_cubist_thrills msg occurs naturally in tomatoes and parmesan cheese [23:21] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [23:22] schestowitz[TR] that's what I read [23:22] schestowitz[TR] but now they fed chemicals to us [23:22] schestowitz[TR] made in a factory [23:22] schestowitz[TR] chemicals is everrything [23:22] highest_cubist_thrills but if you put it in food as an additive some people are sensitive to it [23:22] highest_cubist_thrills its not a phobia [23:22] schestowitz[TR] but this one... doesn't look right [23:22] highest_cubist_thrills i used to get chinese medicine for my feet-- it was glorious [23:22] schestowitz[TR] looks like a narcotic in a bag [23:22] highest_cubist_thrills but i woudlnt drink it [23:22] highest_cubist_thrills ive had chinese home cooking [23:22] highest_cubist_thrills it was fine [23:22] highest_cubist_thrills no msg [23:22] schestowitz[TR] isn't this japanese? [23:23] highest_cubist_thrills looks like a narcotic in a bag <- im sure salt looks dodgy too if you grind it up enough [23:23] highest_cubist_thrills isn't this japanese? <- seaweed is [23:23] schestowitz[TR] massive bags [23:23] schestowitz[TR] retail store [23:23] highest_cubist_thrills but msg is big in chinese restaurants [23:23] schestowitz[TR] rianne said it's that thing mentioned in irc [23:23] highest_cubist_thrills rofl [23:23] schestowitz[TR] looked like drugs to me [23:23] schestowitz[TR] even the bag [23:24] highest_cubist_thrills i dont know what would happen if you snort msg [23:24] schestowitz[TR] a lot of products look dodgy there [23:24] schestowitz[TR] with bad english on them.. if any [23:24] schestowitz[TR] engrish [23:24] highest_cubist_thrills if anything happened, at all, the folks in the er would just think youre a fucking idiot [23:24] highest_cubist_thrills engrish <- the chinese think engrish is hilarious [23:24] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:24] highest_cubist_thrills it happens in china too, but its more common in japan beacuse [23:24] schestowitz[TR] i saw many such things [23:24] highest_cubist_thrills the japanese have a HUGE hardon for english [23:24] schestowitz[TR] but no camera [23:25] schestowitz[TR] I don't carry gadgets with me [23:25] schestowitz[TR] half a day ago in a pharmacy I saw something very funny [23:25] schestowitz[TR] but no camera [23:26] highest_cubist_thrills the japanese have a HUGE hardon for english <- and it doesnt matter if they mangle it so hirality ensues [23:26] highest_cubist_thrills some are very aware of it and make fun of themselves [23:26] highest_cubist_thrills i had a japanese hairstylist who deribelaty made fun of himself [23:27] highest_cubist_thrills he worked at a hibachi place before he learned to cut hair [23:28] highest_cubist_thrills he was good at cutting hair and probably good as a hibachi chef too [23:28] highest_cubist_thrills his english wasnt hilarious but it was mildly amusing [23:29] highest_cubist_thrills because japanese and especially chinese (also thai ive noticed) are so tonal [23:29] schestowitz[TR] dman, I'm trying to recall what the brand was [23:29] highest_cubist_thrills when they move to english their english sounds like a bit like singing [23:29] schestowitz[TR] iirc, it was something sexual sounding [23:29] highest_cubist_thrills which i think is [23:29] schestowitz[TR] or tech joke [23:29] highest_cubist_thrills iirc, it was something sexual sounding <- this is the least prudish youve ever been :) [23:29] highest_cubist_thrills or not, idk [23:30] schestowitz[TR] i think "crem" was in the brand [23:30] highest_cubist_thrills haha [23:30] schestowitz[TR] but the other term was the funny one [23:30] TR News (NEW): Lubuntu 22.10 Beta Run Through http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Lubuntu_22_10_Beta_Run_Through.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/Lubuntu_22_10_Beta_Run_Through.gmi [23:30] TR Bot Tux Machines Lubuntu 22.10 Beta Run Through [23:30] highest_cubist_thrills https://yewtu.be/watch?v=rrbFQEcpJ3A [23:30] TR Bot Prince & The New Power Generation - Cream (Official Music Video) - Invidious [23:34] TR News (NEW): KaOS 2022.10 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/KaOS_2022_10.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/07/KaOS_2022_10.gmi [23:34] TR Bot Tux Machines KaOS 2022.10 [23:34] highest_cubist_thrills https://yewtu.be/watch?v=bU19u4OGje4 [23:34] TR Bot Lets talk about the Tiger Penis in the room - Invidious [23:34] highest_cubist_thrills i was looking for a clip from "made in china" [23:35] highest_cubist_thrills (and chinese viagra. because obviously if im not an msg fan ill try anything made from tiger parts) [23:35] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #techrights [23:35] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [23:37] TR News "Creepy Uncle Bill Gates is heavily invested in both companies and was perplexed at the market rejection of both products. He took to his bribed/friendly media a while back to say that states were passing laws that prevented them from calling these products beef" https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/10/07/fake-meat-stocks-in-the-toilet-and-layoffs-at-impossible-and-beyond/ [23:37] TR Bot Fake meat stocks in the toilet and layoffs at Impossible and Beyond. | BaronHK's Rants [23:37] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: this screenshot is... something! [23:37] schestowitz[TR] like the wife of Jim Zemlin [23:37] schestowitz[TR] Sheela Microsoft [23:37] schestowitz[TR] down like 97%, but not in a single day [23:38] schestowitz[TR] http://techrights.org/2022/08/28/linux-foundation-revenue-plunges/ [23:38] TR Bot Linux Foundation Revenue Plunges ($18,000,000 Decrease in One Year) and Jim Zemlins Wife Has Her Company Sued for Securities Fraud (Class Action) | Techrights [23:38] schestowitz[TR] http://techrights.org/2022/08/30/zemlins-are-volatile/ [23:38] TR Bot After Defrauding People in New York Stock Exchange (Now Class Action for Securities Fraud) Jim Zemlins Wife Quits Bakkt to Dodge Liability | Techrights [23:38] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: remember what i told you about many companies valued at more than 10 times their real worth [23:38] schestowitz[TR] valuation bubbles and lies [23:38] schestowitz[TR] the sad thing is [23:38] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [23:38] schestowitz[TR] many people "invested" stuff like pensions in that [23:39] *techuser has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:39] schestowitz[TR] so there is collaterial damage [23:39] DaemonFC Yep. [23:39] DaemonFC Their Pension was BEYOND IMPOSSIBLE. [23:39] schestowitz[TR] they built these bubbles on other people's money [23:39] schestowitz[TR] savings etc. [23:39] DaemonFC Now Creepy Uncle has it. [23:39] schestowitz[TR] COVID? [23:39] schestowitz[TR] again? :-) [23:39] schestowitz[TR] he might soon become demented like his dad [23:39] schestowitz[TR] who died 2 years ago [23:39] schestowitz[TR] with dementia [23:40] DaemonFC I woke up feeling pretty good today. [23:40] *techuser (~techuser@dndb9c48s7mjg.irc) has joined #techrights [23:40] DaemonFC I left some water and a bottle of tylenol next to my bed just in case. [23:41] schestowitz[TR] https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/26/post-covid-alzheimers/ [23:41] TR Bot Blog Archive COVID-19: Permanent, Irreversible Impact on the Brain [23:41] *qbert has quit (Connection closed) [23:41] DaemonFC Yeah, I don't need that. Hence "updated booster". [23:42] schestowitz[TR] booster+++ [23:42] schestowitz[TR] don't forget the booster of the booster [23:42] schestowitz[TR] whose clinical trials were like... what? a month long experiment? [23:42] schestowitz[TR] not even on humans [23:42] schestowitz[TR] I read froma reliable source they only tested on non-human animals [23:42] schestowitz[TR] and then deploy to the market [23:43] schestowitz[TR] that's leaving vaccine experts very unhappy [23:43] DaemonFC On mice. [23:43] schestowitz[TR] that we came to this [23:43] schestowitz[TR] no, I think bigger than mice, but still [23:43] schestowitz[TR] then they give to human subjects [23:43] schestowitz[TR] not in controlledc experimental with legla papers [23:43] DaemonFC Well, they experiment on a big rat now. His name is mjg59_ [23:43] starstreak linucks btw [23:43] schestowitz[TR] and no waivers but payments to participants [23:44] schestowitz[TR] those were the real protocols [23:44] schestowitz[TR] for clinical trials [23:44] schestowitz[TR] and double trial testing [23:44] schestowitz[TR] animals, humans, then more humans [23:44] schestowitz[TR] not marketing [23:44] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR]: Palefills is working again. [23:44] schestowitz[TR] just the testing [23:44] DaemonFC Didn't fix Google Drive, but it did fix some problems with Wordpress. [23:44] schestowitz[TR] now, for monkeypox, which barely kills anyone, they also cut the red tape [23:44] schestowitz[TR] so the vaccine patent pools just destroy the FDA [23:44] schestowitz[TR] mnany resigned from FDA [23:44] schestowitz[TR] overr this [23:44] schestowitz[TR] so they staged a coup [23:45] schestowitz[TR] and now have rubber-stampers [23:45] schestowitz[TR] and they also pay social control media giants to remove users who call them out on it [23:45] DaemonFC "My aunt was 67 and healthy. Still working. Got her 3rd shot in march and now is in a nursing home starring at the ceiling. She didn't get covod but she did get the shot" [23:45] DaemonFC These people go everywhere and who knows who they really are. [23:45] TR News "TechRepublic Staff" = spambots https://www.techrepublic.com/article/linux-courses-udemy/ [23:45] TR Bot of Udemy Linux Courses and Training | TechRepublic [23:46] DaemonFC It's impossible to know what to do, schestowitz[TR] . [23:46] *highest_cubist_thrills has quit (connection closed) [23:46] DaemonFC mjg59_ was not focused on the safety of the vaccines. [23:46] schestowitz[TR] it's a bad situation [23:46] schestowitz[TR] no easy solution here [23:46] DaemonFC Nobody will admit anything at all happens after them. [23:46] schestowitz[TR] you shut things down, people get depressed and broke [23:46] schestowitz[TR] you open up, they get ill [23:46] DaemonFC So it's giving people a license to say anything they want. [23:47] schestowitz[TR] "xxxxxxx was just speaking with someone with contacts in the healthcare" [23:47] schestowitz[TR] "ervice here. the news is absolutely quiet but the SARS-CoV-2 patients" [23:47] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [23:47] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [23:47] schestowitz[TR] "have been so numerous that, despite the hospital having been about doubled" [23:47] schestowitz[TR] "in size not too long ago, they are been treated in overflow facilities too" [23:47] DaemonFC Mom says they've been seeing a spike in "behaviors" of people with Alzheimer's at their nursing home each time they get a COVID vaccine shot. [23:48] schestowitz[TR] "at nearby buildings" [23:48] DaemonFC I don't know if that's true. [23:48] schestowitz[TR] someone sent this to me today [23:48] schestowitz[TR] this is only October [23:48] schestowitz[TR] your mom is not reliable [23:48] *betsy (~igloo@d9tvs44uyg5y6.irc) has joined #techrights [23:48] schestowitz[TR] she also seees ghosts and stuff [23:48] schestowitz[TR] and rejects all vaccines [23:48] *betsy has quit (Quit: Igloo IRC: https://iglooirc.com) [23:49] TR News Robolinux 12.08 is out http://www.robolinux.org/ [23:49] TR Bot to Robolinux.org [23:49] TR News 2 Hours Of Squid To Relax/Study/Work To | Lofi Hip Hop | Monterey Bay Aquarium Krill Waves Radio - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=J2UyOTS3UCE | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/J2UyOTS3UCE [23:49] TR Bot 2 Hours Of Squid To Relax/Study/Work To | Lofi Hip Hop | Monterey Bay Aquarium Krill Waves Radio - Invidious [23:50] DaemonFC Garrett also didn't want to talk about death rates with COVID. [23:50] TR News Why the rush? Because of the big number, "6"? https://tipsonunix.com/2022/10/03/how-to-install-linux-kernel-6-0-on-ubuntu-linux-mint/ [23:50] TR Bot How to Install Linux Kernel 6.0 on Ubuntu / Linux Mint - Tips On Unix [23:50] schestowitz[TR] re https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/10/07/fake-meat-stocks-in-the-toilet-and-layoffs-at-impossible-and-beyond/ [23:50] TR Bot Fake meat stocks in the toilet and layoffs at Impossible and Beyond. | BaronHK's Rants [23:50] DaemonFC They were already quite low in the 18-49 segment, and almost unheard of lower than age 18. [23:50] schestowitz[TR] rianne found some almost-expired fake 'meats' [23:50] schestowitz[TR] like quarter price or less [23:50] schestowitz[TR] at that price point it's worth taking [23:50] DaemonFC The deaths basically went away after two shots in the 18-49 group. [23:50] schestowitz[TR] and she's veg [23:50] DaemonFC So why did they recommend "boosters"? [23:51] schestowitz[TR] we both know why [23:51] schestowitz[TR] recurring customers among the motivations [23:51] schestowitz[TR] they don't give evena first shot in afric'a horn [23:51] *highest_cubist_thrills (~highest_cubist_thri@77ji9rtgsrhts.irc) has joined #techrights [23:51] DaemonFC There's no scientific justification now, at this point, for a third shot of the original vaccine formulation in anyone under 50, and maybe not even anyone at all i they're getting vaccinated just now. [23:51] schestowitz[TR] "no money in it..." [23:51] DaemonFC The third dose should be the bivalent shot. [23:52] schestowitz[TR] not sure about this "deaths went away" [23:52] DaemonFC Less than 1.7% of the Pfizer shots went to countries without serious money. [23:52] schestowitz[TR] this is summer/autumn [23:52] DaemonFC They don't give a shit. [23:52] schestowitz[TR] Bourla calls people criminals [23:52] schestowitz[TR] buit if they are poor, not criminals [23:53] schestowitz[TR] rich people who don't buy his products [23:53] DaemonFC This is allowing China and Russia to come in and offer them their own vaccinations, in exchange for "favors". [23:53] schestowitz[TR] he doesn't care if you are por [23:53] DaemonFC This is a serious political fuck-up on behalf of the West. [23:53] schestowitz[TR] also, he doesn't try too impress you [23:53] DaemonFC Especially the United States. [23:53] schestowitz[TR] by name-calling [23:53] schestowitz[TR] his real customers are government [23:53] schestowitz[TR] they buy it for you ehether you want it or not [23:53] schestowitz[TR] it's prepaid [23:54] schestowitz[TR] "war on crime" [23:54] schestowitz[TR] "buy my patent licence" [23:54] DaemonFC I don't know. Russia has a vaccine that's probably no worse than what they're giving out in the UK. [23:54] DaemonFC You hear people calling it dodgy because of nationalism. [23:54] schestowitz[TR] "so I can sell you 50 cent products for %50" [23:54] schestowitz[TR] 10,000% profit margin [23:54] schestowitz[TR] *$50 [23:54] MinceR ftw btw [23:55] schestowitz[TR] even many russians refuse to take it [23:55] DaemonFC Yeah, get this shit. Like, early on in the COVID pandemic, but when you COULD get Pfizer shots in the US, one of Mandy's friends at Walmart went back to the Philippines and got AZ for some reason. Came right back and got COVID 3 months after completing the AZ series. Why would you even do that? [23:55] schestowitz[TR] that's how much they trust their regime [23:55] DaemonFC You live in the US. Nobody is going to be doing AZ here, so you take a vaccine there's no follow up for. [23:55] TR News Nat Friedman, who deleted some of his online presence, probably hopes you wont notice whats going on with his Wikipedia page this week http://techrights.org/2022/10/07/nat-friedman-wikipedia-spam/ [23:55] TR Bot Nat Friedman Seems to Be Employing a PR Agency to Turn a Wikipedia Page About Him Into Hagiography and Hide His Strong Links to the Serial Strangler Alex Graveley | Techrights [23:56] TR News "Well, after more than 40 years, this sad prophecy is about to come true, thanks to the Pluton chip, yet another attack on user freedom, perpetrated by one of the most abusive companies in existence." http://techrights.org/2022/10/07/bill-gates-evil-prophecy-blocking-gnulinux-from-new-pcs/ [23:56] TR Bot Bill Gates Evil Prophecy: Blocking GNU/Linux From New PCs | Techrights [23:56] XRevan86 schestowitz: I took Sputnik-V, but just the two times. [23:56] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR]rianne found some almost-expired fake 'meats' [23:56] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR]like quarter price or less [23:56] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR]at that price point it's worth taking [23:56] DaemonFC Is it, though? [23:56] schestowitz[TR] yeah [23:56] DaemonFC I mean it's basically garbage. Highly processed. [23:56] schestowitz[TR] protien value is OK [23:56] schestowitz[TR] and it's cheap at that stage [23:56] XRevan86 Not sure if there's a point in vaccinating myself against the original COVID-19. [23:56] schestowitz[TR] fereezable [23:56] DaemonFC I saw some big rebates on Beyond Beef at Walmart. [23:57] schestowitz[TR] anyway,m, they don't profit off that... [23:57] DaemonFC Yeah, didn't take the rebates though. [23:57] schestowitz[TR] it's just that nobody buys it [23:57] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:57] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:57] XRevan86 And there aren't any other options out there. [23:57] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: not garbage but veg [23:57] DaemonFC Nobody is buying it so Walmart announced "rollbacks" and then rebates show up on iBotta at the same time. [23:57] schestowitz[TR] with added nutrients [23:57] schestowitz[TR] like mushrooms with spices and rotein [23:58] schestowitz[TR] people don't buy brands much [23:58] schestowitz[TR] like Cola [23:58] schestowitz[TR] so the chops remove the budget item [23:58] schestowitz[TR] and mark up all items [23:58] XRevan86 I was going to wait and vaccinate myself with an updated vaccine but it never came to be. [23:58] schestowitz[TR] to make up for loss of sales... of high progfit margin items [23:58] schestowitz[TR] aldi and lidi are seeing a huge surge in sales [23:58] schestowitz[TR] people go there to avoid brand surplus [23:59] schestowitz[TR] XRevan86: better not vaccine yourserlf [23:59] XRevan86 Now I have an opportunity to vaccinate with an expired* vaccine. [23:59] XRevan86 * The expiration date has been extended. [23:59] schestowitz[TR] you would look like a narc [23:59] DaemonFC I just tossed all the stuff out of my freezer and went at it with the scraper. [23:59] schestowitz[TR] "I'm not a junkie, I self-medicate" [23:59] DaemonFC I used a thin piece of cardboard to scoop the ice out of the bottom when I was done and put it in a big bowl. [23:59] DaemonFC I ended up dumping a lot of ice from the sides of the freezer into the sink.