●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, May 08, 2022 ●● ● May 08 [00:00] matey the first year that i had to deal with systemd [00:00] matey i really fucking hated him [00:00] matey for destroying gnu/linux [00:00] psydruid I already hated him for pulseaudio [00:00] matey right? [00:00] matey however [00:01] matey and im not condoning a single octet of his work here [00:01] matey this is silver lining territory [00:01] psydruid which I had to disable on my laptop to get decent non-crackling sound out of my soundcard [00:01] matey the biggest drawback of systemd isnt systemd [00:01] matey its the way the industry and its shills bent the fuck over for it [00:01] matey and demanded the same of us [00:01] matey thats where 99% of my ire about systemd goes [00:01] matey we could have stopped this [00:02] matey one man, at least of every living human i know, did absolutely everything he could. [00:02] psydruid systemd is the nail in the coffin of gnu/linux [00:02] matey he should get a fucking medal [00:02] matey he was way ahead of devuan [00:02] matey way ahead of me [00:03] matey way ahead of everyone i can think of [00:03] SomeH4x0r Poettering is not an issue himself. I think he has a corporation behind him. [00:03] matey Poettering is not an issue himself. I think he has a corporation behind him <- more or less [00:03] matey but i think he HELPED [00:03] SomeH4x0r he did [00:03] psydruid but systemd/gnu/linux will "win" by becoming "windows" [00:03] matey "people say 'guns dont kill people'... but i think the gun helps!"-- izzard [00:04] matey yes it will win by ceding [00:04] matey "win by forfeit" is the essence of open source [00:04] psydruid as long as people can play their "precious" games [00:04] matey also known as "if you can beat them, join them" [00:04] matey "whats PID 1, precious?" [00:06] matey one man, at least of every living human i know, did absolutely everything he could. <- must be obvious to everyone else, since no one asked [00:06] bnchs can we mark every human with their own PID [00:06] matey no thats what ipv6 is for [00:06] psydruid but it may not be a bad thing if it replaces "the system formerly known as windows" [00:06] matey (as if imsi isnt enough) [00:06] bnchs matey: PID is a single number [00:07] psydruid as that is an even worse codebase [00:07] bnchs independent of how much the CPU can support [00:07] matey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_fingerprinting [00:07] TR Bot Radio fingerprinting - Wikipedia [00:07] matey An electronic fingerprint makes it possible to identify a wireless device by its radio transmission characteristics. Radio fingerprinting is commonly used by cellular operators to prevent cloning of cell phones a cloned device will have the same numeric equipment identity but a different radio fingerprint. [00:08] matey i believe this relies on the laws of physics, rather than drm [00:09] matey matey: PID is a single number <- im not sure how ipv6 is different in this regard [00:09] bnchs it's not per device [00:09] bnchs it's per human [00:09] matey ahh, fair point [00:09] bnchs like a social security number [00:09] bnchs i can do a kill -s SIGKILL 1001029130 [00:10] matey so when people die we can use their pid for identity theft :) [00:10] bnchs or pkill -s SIGKILL johndoe [00:10] bnchs matey: the pid increments [00:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights [00:10] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 17.98 k/sec., IPFS upstream 52.21 average k/sec., average swarm size 500.28 [00:10] psydruid this can be used to erase someone from the planet [00:10] TR News Links 07/05/2022: SparkyLinux 6.3 and Wine 7.8 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/07/sparkylinux-6-3/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/07/sparkylinux-6-3/ [00:10] bnchs even if a guy with a PID died [00:10] TR Bot Links 07/05/2022: SparkyLinux 6.3 and Wine 7.8 | Techrights [00:10] matey im sure there are limits even on 64-bit versions [00:10] bnchs you won't take his PID [00:10] psydruid very cool tech, IBM [00:11] matey ibm is traditionally good at erasing people from the planet [00:11] matey its sort of their thing [00:11] psydruid all the POWER is in your hands [00:11] TR News Proprietary Software Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164592 [00:11] TR Bot Proprietary Software Leftovers | Tux Machines [00:11] TR News Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164593 [00:11] TR Bot Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [00:11] matey "ALLOW POWER"-- ibm in the 40s [00:11] TR News Free, Libre, and Open Source Software Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164594 [00:11] TR Bot Free, Libre, and Open Source Software | Tux Machines [00:11] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164595 [00:11] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [00:12] psydruid Inspur POWER [00:13] psydruid to help the Chinese with their digital transformation [00:13] psydruid or is that mutation [00:13] psydruid I forgot [00:13] matey if youre talking about the people, its transformation [00:13] TR News The Stars, From the Ground Up: While Supplies Last (Part 1) gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2022/202205/20220507-the-stars-from-the-ground-up-while-supplies-last-part-1.gmi [00:13] matey if youre talking about the laws, its mutation [00:14] psydruid it's going to be a transformative experience for sure [00:14] psydruid life will never be the same again [00:14] matey the good news is that china is occupied by people intent on fixing it [00:15] matey the bad news of course, is the relatively low count of such people :) [00:15] matey but at least they are present [00:15] matey and the numbers will continue to grow [00:16] matey as roy says about github, its only a matter of time [00:16] matey (sort of) [00:16] TR News Voyager 22.04.1 is out https://voyagerlive.org/ [00:16] TR Bot [00:16] *psydruid was being extremely cynical about what's happening to people in Tibet and Xinjiang [00:16] matey thats reasonable [00:16] matey cynicism is justifiable [00:17] matey im even in favour of it, as long as it doesnt become a crutch [00:17] matey but i know youre smarter than that, so i dont worry [00:17] matey it really is justifiable [00:17] matey cynicism is normally better than throwing the monitor [00:17] matey the world says "fuck everything" and the cynic says "whatever" [00:18] matey later we can say more and maybe even do something about it [00:18] matey but at least we dont have to go buy a new monitor [00:18] matey so as a first step, cynicism is practical [00:18] matey its a way of expressing rage that 9 out of 10 monitors prefer [00:19] matey (some are just so tired of looking at tech news sites that they would prefer to die) [00:20] *goosestepping_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:21] psydruid I've never been that destructive or pessimistic, but I try to be realistic most of the time [00:21] matey realism has limitations [00:21] matey the wright brothers didnt care about being realistic [00:21] matey i beat a dead horse with them, only because they represent such a triumph of human ingenuity [00:22] matey in the face of 99% of the scientific world thinking they were literally nuts. [00:22] matey and they werent even scientists, they were BICYCLE DESIGNERS [00:22] matey but when they were done, they were (at LEAST) engineers [00:23] matey thats the kind of human spirit free software needs to get back [00:24] psydruid I think there is something wrong with software in the first place [00:24] matey also they started simple and iterated, which i fucking love [00:24] matey I think there is something wrong with software in the first place <- interesting, what? [00:24] psydruid or maybe even the field of computer science [00:24] matey oh definitely [00:24] matey i mean it has its good points [00:24] matey most things do [00:24] psydruid it makes no sense to reinvent everything every 30-50 years [00:25] matey oh i think it makes more than none [00:25] matey but fashion is way overdone [00:25] matey its one thing to reinvent things every few decades [00:25] psydruid you don't see that in natural sciences, which is where I come from [00:25] matey its another to drag everyone else through that shit [00:25] matey industry isnt a natural science :) [00:26] matey its more of a cult [00:26] matey and cults and narcissists have to keep reinventing themselves [00:26] matey imagine what would happen if the spanish inquisition showed up right about now [00:26] matey the original one [00:26] matey youd have cardinals getting red on a lot more than their outfits [00:27] matey theyd be toast [00:27] psydruid imagine having to throw out the laws of Maxwell, Newton and Einstein because they are "old" and we should get with the "new" [00:27] matey cults and narcissists have to reinvent themselves constantly, because otherwise people would catch on to their bullshit [00:28] matey imagine having to throw out the laws of Maxwell, Newton and Einstein because they are "old" and we should get with the "new" <- indeed, this is the thing about computing i reject [00:28] matey but [00:28] matey there is this thing where [00:28] matey when you get new tools... [00:28] matey you want to go out and redo everything with new tools [00:28] matey and while thats really terrible for some things, i get it, at least [00:28] psydruid I was misled into thinking the field was young and things hadn't settled yet, but instead it all turned into complete garbage [00:29] matey if you keep inventing the wheel, eventually some idiot is going to make a square one, and tell people round is out of date [00:29] matey the problem is really that the industry pushes people around [00:30] matey if people are free to laugh at this shit, and nothing can stop them from doing that, then its probably okay [00:30] matey which is different from ideal [00:30] matey but resources being what they are, it becomes a fight for those every time some idiot makes the square wheel OF THE FUTURE [00:30] matey whether its the cloud, systemd or flatpak [00:30] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/22050622 [00:30] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/9fzvyk0jr8x81.jpg created on 2022-05-06 08:22:44.822314 [00:30] matey so here we are. [00:31] matey and youre right that its far from a scientific attitude [00:31] matey which is why i spent so much time talking about how our attitude about this could be more scientific [00:31] matey not perfectly so, just more reasonably so [00:31] matey i mean the cults we have to deal with are based on marketing and bullshit [00:32] matey and the needs of industry douchebags [00:32] matey aka "developers developers developers" [00:32] matey which really means industry [00:33] matey "microsoft! microsoft! microsoft! microsoft!" "microsoft! microsoft! microsoft! microsoft!"-- what ballmer really meant [00:33] matey we have to reinvent everything-- so microsoft can sell it to us [00:33] matey then a few years later, we have to do it again [00:34] matey just like printer manufacturers arent in the printer business, theyre in the ink cartridge business [00:34] matey microsoft isnt in the software business, theyre in the make users redo everything all over again (INNOVA~1) business [00:35] matey if they gave a shit about software they would have taken windows outside and shot it years ago [00:35] matey it serves their purposes [00:36] activelow chopping long filenames was common with many early computer systems, reason being limited RAM, a few dozen KiB of it [00:36] matey why sell the cow when you can sell the milk for so much more? [00:36] psydruid I wonder how it serves anyone else's purpose [00:36] matey it doesnt [00:36] matey thats where marketing comes in [00:36] activelow reminder, the early altair basic was punched onto a paper tape 4KiB max [00:37] matey when a drug dealer sells you something highly addictive, theyre not considering anyone elses needs but their own [00:37] matey its just business [00:37] activelow some CP/M didn't support sub-directories... another such problem in the early days [00:37] matey it takes a lot of marketing to sell people a model based on profiting from everyone else shooting themselves in the foot again and again and again [00:38] activelow nowadays, it is megasoft almost everywhere, including the corporation which sticked to the label micro [00:39] activelow maga-mega-soft [00:39] matey http://techrights.org/wiki/Ted_MacReilly_Handbook_Revisited:_Chapter_9 [00:39] TR Bot Ted MacReilly Handbook Revisited: Chapter 9 - Techrights [00:39] matey Chapter 9: Ownership Through Branding [00:41] activelow to my knowledge early "micro"-soft did implement their prime product themselves at that time: basic [00:42] activelow nonetheless, i wouldn't touch any other of their products ever, except for the basic interpreter [00:43] activelow don't know, if anyone on earth could decipher the paper tape [00:43] matey whats funny about this is: [00:43] MinceR except for the tons of bugfixing so it would actually work on the altair, from what i've heard :> [00:43] matey www.awakenthegreatnesswithin.com/35-inspirational-thomas-j-watson-quotes-on-success/ [00:43] matey A leading self-made industrialist, he was one of the richest men of his time and was called the world's greatest salesman when he died in 1956. [00:43] psydruid their newest products always require the latest computers [00:43] matey whats funny about that snippet of text is [00:43] matey i was looking for "far side" "greatest salesman" [00:44] matey about the guy who sold refrigerators to eskimos :) [00:44] matey and it gave me something about the guy from ibm. [00:45] matey all you need to operate an altair is a long piece of paper, a very small hole punch, and GREAT DEAL of patience [00:46] matey the first thing i would do, personally, is switch to some kind of plastic or mylar tape. [00:46] matey the second thing i would do is switch to magnetic tape, and the third thing i would do is add a fucking usb port. [00:46] matey "but not a real fucking usb port thats cruel" [00:48] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=B4L3ls_6UYg [00:48] TR Bot Barenaked Ladies - If I Had a Million Dollars (BEST Lyrics Video!) - Invidious [00:48] activelow the paper tape has one huge benefit: longevity... if anyone could decipher it and construct the required hardware... including the altair [00:50] matey of course a usb device connected to an altair is NOT going to have the throughput of a usb device connected to... a real usb port [00:50] matey but since the altair can only read so many k from it anyway, thats okay [00:51] *bnchs has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:52] matey def wtflen(p): [00:53] matey c=0 [00:53] matey for each in p: c += 1 [00:53] matey return c [00:53] matey s/for/ for/ [00:54] matey print wtflen("how long is this string?") [00:56] psydruid wtfbasic = python [00:56] matey python and basic both have a perfectly good len statement [00:57] matey the python one is cooler because it works on arrays (lists) [00:57] matey python 3 = wtfpython [00:58] matey wtflen() is meant as a sort of analogue to putting a usb port on an altair :) [00:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 17.75 k/sec., IPFS upstream 79.63 average k/sec., average swarm size 564.68 [00:59] matey i mean an actual len statement wouldnt work that way, because the language implementation should already have access to the size of variables etc [00:59] matey otherwise how would it know how to iterate through the characters? its a tautological function definition [00:59] *psydruid has no idea what an altair even is ● May 08 [01:00] matey the hardware that created microsoft [01:00] psydruid evil hardware that must have been [01:00] matey nope, the hardware is innocent [01:00] matey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altair_BASIC [01:00] TR Bot Altair BASIC - Wikipedia [01:01] matey it was simply exploited to create an empire [01:01] matey in fact it was more than innocent, the infamous "letter to hobbyists" was intended to discourage people from copying software for their altair [01:01] TR News "A 7-segment display can be used to display a limited amount of data having numeric values and alphabets. Such types of displays are mostly used in banks, hospitals, super markets for displaying token numbers and counter numbers. So, we have also created a digital counter using the 7-segment display with Arduino Uno" https://linuxhint.com/make-digital-counter-seven-segment-arduino-2/ [01:01] TR Bot How to make digital counter using 7 segment with Arduino Uno [01:02] matey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homebrew_Computer_Club [01:02] TR Bot Homebrew Computer Club - Wikipedia [01:02] psydruid they did a "Gary, kill 'em all" on the industry [01:02] matey The Homebrew Computer Club was an informal group of electronic enthusiasts and technically minded hobbyists who gathered to trade parts, circuits, and information pertaining to DIY construction of personal computing devices. [01:03] matey It was started by Gordon French and Fred Moore who met at the Community Computer Center in Menlo Park. [01:03] matey The first meeting of the club was held on March 5, 1975, in French's garage [01:03] matey apple: started in a garage [01:03] matey hp: started in a garage [01:03] matey sam zeloof: makes chips in his garage [01:03] psydruid didn't people have spines so as not to go along with the scam? [01:04] matey spines have a limited carrying capacity [01:04] matey the scam was a juggernaut [01:05] matey things like microsoft really follow the boiling frog metaphor [01:05] psydruid I'm thinking the lack of hardware freedom played a part as well [01:05] matey even if the story itself (the boiling frog) is bullshit [01:05] matey i mean in the 70s, hardware freedom was a thing [01:05] matey its how apple started [01:05] matey in the 70s, copyright couldnt be applied to software either (in the usa) [01:06] matey not until the early 80s [01:06] activelow berne convention and authors rights applied before [01:06] activelow still does [01:06] matey software was uncopyrightable [01:07] activelow what does that mean? authors have rights; with or without whatever you mean with copyright. [01:07] matey Many of the original members of the Homebrew Computer Club continue to meet (as of 2009[update]), having formed the 6800 Club, named after the Motorola (now Freescale) 6800 microprocessor [01:07] matey Occasionally and variously renamed after the release of the 6800, 6809, and other microprocessors, the group continues to meet monthly in Cupertino, California.[citation needed] [01:08] matey Most of the members were hobbyists but had an electronic engineering or computer programming background.[10] They came to the meetings to talk about the Altair 8800, to review other technical topics, and to exchange schematics and programming tips. [01:08] psydruid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OorZcOzNcgE [01:08] TR Bot https://invidious.flokinet.to/watch?v=OorZcOzNcgE [01:08] TR Bot invidious.flokinet.to | Deep Purple - Child In Time - Live (1970) - Invidious [01:08] matey https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OorZcOzNcgE [01:09] matey cool, i only know "smoke on the water" by them [01:10] *techrights_guest|40 (~62c3b79d@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [01:10] techrights_guest|40 ok [01:10] *techrights_guest|40 is now known as e [01:10] psydruid I think I learned to play it way back [01:10] *e has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [01:10] psydruid "smoke on the water", that is [01:11] psydruid just a few parts, though [01:11] matey Felsenstein was one of the original members of the Homebrew Computer Club, which formed in 1975 in response to the appearance of the Altair 8800 computer kit. With a handy yardstick, Felsenstein "moderated" meetings at the SLAC Auditorium. He was less a chair than a keeper of chaos. [01:11] matey i like the idea of a moderator that keeps things chaotic [01:12] matey "excuse me, excuse me everyone-- could you keep the noise UP, please?" [01:12] matey /me would consider earplugs, but probably still like it more than some other meeting [01:13] psydruid LUGs seem as dead as UUGs were at some point [01:13] matey if i designed a computer club and it worked exactly as designed, id probably start with something like callahans crosstime saloon [01:14] psydruid but maybe that's because it's so easy to get it installed these days [01:14] matey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Callahan%27s_Crosstime_Saloon [01:14] TR Bot Callahan's Crosstime Saloon - Wikipedia [01:14] matey ive been to one, maybe two lugs ever [01:14] matey at one i got to touch an xo-1 :) [01:15] psydruid hardware should definitely play a part in a revival [01:15] matey worth the trip for that alone [01:15] psydruid of the concept at least [01:15] matey hardware should definitely play a part in a revival <- in more ways than one [01:15] matey regarding hardware, stallman is a damned fool [01:15] matey regarding software, hes one of the most important people in the history of computing [01:16] matey as long we dont mix up the two [01:16] XRevan86 matey: Would be a shame if anyone were to feed wtflen() an infinite iterator :) [01:16] matey i mean, there are cheaper ways to create an endless loop [01:19] matey >>> for p in range(10000000000): pass [01:19] matey OverflowError: range() result has too many items [01:19] matey >>> for p in range(1000000000): pass [01:19] matey Traceback (most recent call last): [01:19] matey MemoryError [01:20] XRevan86 matey: That feels like Python 2. [01:20] matey of course [01:20] XRevan86 Of course, because Python 3's range is Python 2's xrange? [01:20] MinceR try xrange then [01:20] matey but i imagine python3 has similar (if not identical) safeties [01:20] XRevan86 matey: Yes, but range() is an iterator. [01:20] matey werent we talking about iterators? [01:21] XRevan86 range() in Python 2 isn't. [01:21] matey ah ok [01:21] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164596 [01:21] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [01:21] matey so xrange then [01:21] matey OverflowError: Python int too large to convert to C long [01:21] matey thats the first one [01:22] XRevan86 matey: That's weird, it should work fine. [01:22] matey 32bit [01:22] XRevan86 matey: It's not going to eat memory with xrange (range in Python 3) [01:22] matey the second one was using 100% of one core :) [01:23] matey in all instances memory usage didnt go up [01:23] matey but in the xrange one that didnt overflow, it started grabbing cpu [01:23] matey im pretty sure while 1: pass will do the same though [01:23] XRevan86 matey: Too efficient for your CPU :) [01:23] matey i was of course able to kill the process [01:24] matey thats not hard [01:24] matey i mean, nothing was being weird [01:24] matey but i didnt feel like playing a game of chicken with a system that has 200 days of uptime [01:25] matey and quite a few things open at the moment [01:25] matey (though the important ones are saved and synced im sure) [01:25] matey (this is not how i would prefer to test that) [01:26] matey ive got a laptop i could turn on and put up to this, but my curiosity is satisfied for the moment [01:36] *goosestepping_ (~goosestepping@9ucczhkmm895g.irc) has joined #techrights [01:39] DaemonFC Someone on Reddit was complaining that Instacart pairs orders and they lugged 10 24 packs of water up to someone's apartment and that person didn't tip, and they thought it was the person who left them a $60 tip. [01:40] DaemonFC Someone else said if there's an order with a ton of bottled water, most of the time, that's the lousy/no tip. [01:43] DaemonFC Someone in Japan with Bitcomet. Well, that's an unusual peer. [01:48] matey they lugged 10 24 packs of water up to someone's apartment and that person didn't tip, and they thought it was the person who left them a $60 tip. [01:48] matey 10 24 packs? id buy them dinner. [01:57] matey when youre buying 10 24 packs of water, a saner option is a filter for the sink but [01:58] matey they probably thought of that and opted for the "convenience" of 240 separate bottles. [01:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.60 k/sec., IPFS upstream 72.86 average k/sec., average swarm size 637.21 ● May 08 [02:03] matey one for dr sixel: [02:03] matey from rob pike of unix (/google) fame [02:04] DaemonFC Probably complaining about MARISOL. [02:04] matey "compile time 0.18 seconds..." (ibm 360 high speed job stream, 1970s, 1mhz machine) "run time 0.11 seconds..." "i have been waiting to get back to that speed of compile my entire career" [02:04] matey marisol, marisol, does whatever a marisol does [02:05] matey the legend of marisol would have made a highly amusing text adventure [02:05] matey you must collect apple airbuds at some point in the game [02:05] DaemonFC Hey kid....want some truck water? [02:05] DaemonFC :) [02:05] matey especially if you dont need them and cant afford them [02:07] matey "the stuff they had for doing high speed work on the 360, in my opinion is unparalleled ever since"-- rob pike [02:07] TR News Plasma Desktop in Latest KDE Neon (State-of-the-Art Plasma) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/07/state-of-the-art-plasma/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/07/state-of-the-art-plasma/ [02:07] TR Bot Plasma Desktop in Latest KDE Neon (State-of-the-Art Plasma) | Techrights [02:08] matey he doesnt say hes a fan except of the compiler speed [02:09] matey "back then [1975] you needed an ACCOUNT if you wanted to use the computer with more resources" [02:09] matey yeah, about that... [02:11] matey anyway, he got about $100 of "free" computing time from his professor [02:11] matey redid his program to print out graphics [02:11] *swaggboi has quit (Quit: C-x C-c) [02:12] matey showed the professor, who then escourted him to the graphics lab with a pdp-11/45 and some kind of graphics terminal [02:12] DaemonFC I've finally got my black and white cat trained to hop up on the couch or bed when I tap on it. [02:12] matey a dec gt40 [02:12] DaemonFC Just like a dog. [02:12] DaemonFC That only took six years. [02:12] TR News Open Hardware/Modding: Raspberry Pi and Arduino Articles Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164597 [02:12] TR Bot Open Hardware/Modding: Raspberry Pi and Arduino Articles | Tux Machines [02:14] matey "this (late 70s) framebuffer was 256x256 by 8 bits" [02:14] matey and the first raster graphics terminal he had seen [02:15] matey why 256x256x8? [02:15] matey "that is the complete address space of the pdp-11" [02:15] matey so you could basically show the state of the entire machine graphically [02:16] matey and i guess buffering the image made very little sense too :) just write it [02:17] TR News Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164598 [02:17] TR Bot Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [02:21] TR News KDE Neon had a new release this past Thursday; Ive decided to show what OS I tinker with these days (GNU/Linux at the cutting/bleeding edge) http://techrights.org/2022/05/07/state-of-the-art-plasma/ [02:22] TR News Wrong thing to board about: "passed the milestone of more than 100 patents filed globally, spanning four continents and more than 10 countries." https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20220418005594/en/AEye-Opens-Munich-Office-Appoints-Technical-Sales-Director-for-Europe [02:22] TR Bot AEye Opens Munich Office, Appoints Technical Sales Director for Europe | Business Wire [02:22] TR News Python Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164599 [02:22] TR Bot Python Leftovers | Tux Machines [02:24] TR News WTH is "HEY HI"? This is just patent propaganda. "Korean HEY HI lagging... blah blah legal protection" (link omitted) [02:24] TR News Software Patents: "The '727 patent generally relates to a taxi trip meter system that includes a taximeter and a location sensor connected to a computer" https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/5/3/2000-for-fare-technologies-prior-art [02:24] TR Bot $2,000 for Fare Technologies prior art Unified Patents [02:25] TR News Software Patents: "The '876 patent relates to a route guidance system for vehicles." https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/5/6/2000-for-prior-art-on-equitable-ip-entity-route-guidance-system-patent [02:25] TR Bot $2,000 for prior art on Equitable IP entity, Route Guidance System patent Unified Patents [02:26] TR News Software Patents: "dynamic computer system security method using dynamic encryption and full synchronization" https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/5/6/2000-for-prior-art-on-ip-edge-entity-moxchange [02:26] TR Bot $2,000 for prior art on IP Edge entity, Moxchange Unified Patents [02:26] matey customs security guy in the late 70s early 80s, suspicious of software which is suddenly becoming important "whats in the bag?" [02:26] matey rob pike "oh its a computer disk" [02:26] matey customs "well is it software?" [02:26] matey rob pike "no, its just computer programs" [02:27] matey customs "ok, you can go then" :) [02:28] TR News Greenwashing garbage for companies that break the law. Fake 'studies' and totally laughable junk https://finance.yahoo.com/news/vmware-joins-green-software-foundation-140110417.html http://techrights.org/wiki/VMware [02:28] TR Bot VMware Joins the Green Software Foundation [02:28] TR Bot VMware - Techrights [02:28] matey so he worked at bell labs in 1980 and then later went to google [02:29] matey bell labs had metal walls on the labs :) [02:29] matey to contain any explosions [02:30] TR News How to give a bad name to Gentoo: call a reckless company in northeast England after gentoos https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-tyne-61007474 also: This is BillBC, which covered up for Jimmy Savile, whom it knew was raping little kids. 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HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-070522.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-070522.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-070522.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-070522.txt [02:41] TR Bot IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, May 07, 2022 [02:42] TR News "In my last gemlog entry[1] I talked about the gemini server framework I created but hadn't yet made the code available. This wasn't because the code wasn't ready to publish but because I didn't yet know where I wanted to publish it." gemini://clifton.kaznocha.net/gemlog/2021-12-19-announcing-source_community.gmi [02:42] TR News Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-05-07.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-05-07.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now) [02:46] XRevan86 matey: Before going to sleep, I'll just throw this at you: [02:46] XRevan86 > for i, _ in enumerate(p): continue [02:46] XRevan86 > return i + 1 [02:46] XRevan86 -1 line. [02:48] MinceR len(p) [02:48] XRevan86 MinceR: Amazing simplicity and efficiency :) [02:49] matey len(p) <- it cant be done! [02:49] activelow reminds me of an issue with abduco session manager... which does not track clientIDs for individual disconnect [02:49] matey XRevan86 ive used enumerate about twice [02:49] matey its a good design, it has my respect [02:49] XRevan86 There's also functools.reduce which can simplify further, but it's an import. [02:49] activelow because, i want an option for a single-client connect, similar to tmux [02:50] matey but whenever i would use it, im thinking about something else instead [02:50] matey so it never gets used-- it is still a good design [02:50] matey but its basically len() which i guess is the point [02:50] matey my (openly silly) example shows how len works, sort of, in a way that is both misleading but easy to explain [02:51] matey while enumerate is probably more efficient but also misleading (and also redundant, as is mine, comically so) and completely opaque [02:51] matey all of its useless, all of its fun [02:51] XRevan86 matey: Except that len rarely works that way in Python, but ye have pointed this out yourself. [02:51] matey here are the (comical) pros and cons [02:52] matey yes i pointed out that it would be redundant for len to work that way :) tautological even [02:52] matey like saying "god is all powerful and created everything else" [02:52] matey ive never seen machine code for len, and i can still say with some confidence it works nothing like these examples [02:53] matey because the language should know what the length of a variable is, and thats what len should return [02:53] matey these programs either measure it, which is silly [02:53] matey or they return the same value by similar means [02:53] matey none are implementations, theyre either synonyms or misdirections :) [02:53] matey still, its FUN to show that you can "sort of" implement in len in other ways [02:54] matey as long as you dont tell people "see? this is how it works" [02:54] XRevan86 matey: Heard of __len__? [02:54] matey whats it do :) i rarely dabble with the underscored stuff [02:55] matey /me uses python as a step up from shell scripts, while some people use it as a step down from some international space station development environment [02:55] matey python is a LOT more powerful than anything i use it for. [02:55] matey by more than one order of magnitude i figure [02:56] matey though what is use for is pretty close to its predecessor which inspired python [02:57] matey the precessor of python: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ABC_(programming_language) [02:57] TR Bot ABC (programming language) - Wikipedia [02:57] matey predecessor [02:57] XRevan86 matey: https://docs.python.org/3/reference/datamodel.html#object.__len__ [02:57] TR Bot 3. Data model Python 3.10.4 documentation [02:58] matey "ABC had a major influence on the design of the language Python, developed by Guido van Rossum, who formerly worked for several years on the ABC system in the mid-1980s." [02:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 18.93 k/sec., IPFS upstream 71.66 average k/sec., average swarm size 536.21 [02:59] matey matey: https://docs.python.org/3/reference/datamodel.html#object.__len__ <- lol ● May 08 [03:00] XRevan86 And that's how len() *actually* works. [03:01] matey "nel blu dipinto di blu" [03:01] matey And that's how len() *actually* works. <- no, its just the interface that len calls [03:01] matey unless you can print it and get the code somehow [03:01] matey which maybe you can, but [03:02] matey it certainly doesnt SAY SO there in the paragraph [03:02] XRevan86 matey: But odds are the method will just get a stored value and give it out. [03:02] matey i guessed that much [03:02] matey i mean theres source code available for cpython [03:02] matey so that is how it actually works [03:03] matey "But odds are the method will just get a stored value and give it out." <- and i agree, and that was my guess too [03:03] matey thats how pascal does it [03:03] matey afaik c uses a nul character [03:03] matey which i think is hateful, but its certainly efficient [03:04] XRevan86 "afaik" <- It definitely does. [03:04] XRevan86 Not particularly efficient. [03:04] matey /me is partial to pascal strings, but not to pascal itself [03:04] XRevan86 It's the bane of C's existence. [03:04] matey yes! [03:05] TR News In Spite of All the AstroTurfing, Microsoft Edge (Ripoff of Chrome) is Falling Every Month So Far This Year (Along With Windows) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/07/browsers-by-use/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/07/browsers-by-use/ [03:05] TR Bot In Spite of All the AstroTurfing, Microsoft Edge (Ripoff of Chrome) is Falling Every Month So Far This Year (Along With Windows) | Techrights [03:05] matey sometimes even the gods fuck up [03:05] matey i think c strings was one of those [03:06] XRevan86 matey: A lot of security specialists will agree. 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TotalIn: 42 GB TotalOut: 9.0 GB [03:09] TR News This Week in Linux 197: Firefox 100, WINE Bottles, Tails 5.0, Unity Desktop, Ubuntu and more Linux news! - TuxDigital https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/this-week-in-linux/twil-197/ Source: TuxDigital | GNU | Linux [03:09] TR Bot Firefox 100, WINE Bottles, Tails 5.0, Unity Desktop, Ubuntu and more Linux news! - This Week in Linux - TuxDigital [03:10] XRevan86 matey: The fun thing is that nul doesn't have to even exist. [03:10] IPFS New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled. [03:10] matey /me is watching a video from rob pike where he talks about how in the early 80s, hello world in c didnt have int or void on main() and before that, didnt even include stdio but used printf anyway [03:10] matey of course in version 6 unix i think stdio didnt exist yet [03:10] matey so including it would be somewhat delusional (or VERY VERY advanced) [03:11] matey in version 5 it did not exist yet [03:11] XRevan86 And that can break code in such a way that gives back parts of memory to the right of the string. [03:11] XRevan86 Very exploitable. [03:11] TR News "No greenwashing, thank you, I already use GNU/Linux..." https://www.makeuseof.com/ways-linux-reduces-ewaste/ no ads (brainwash) either, no temptation for needless, wasteful consumption [03:11] TR Bot How Does Linux Help Reduce E-Waste? [03:11] matey though at least now we have mitigations (and if you think i trust those to the ends of the earth, i dont) [03:12] TR News Based on StatCounter, Microsofts Edge market share fell every month this year. Microsoft Edges share, all versions combined, from January to May: 4.12%, 4.06%, 4.05%, 4.05%, and 4.04%. http://techrights.org/2022/05/07/browsers-by-use/ [03:12] XRevan86 matey: C has implicit int. [03:12] XRevan86 It's highly deprecated, but it's there. [03:12] schestowitz-TR who you call a c**? [03:12] IPFS QmRQVhGpsKDNmkjNUW1AkVeznhpmY4wAGbjRcBeWH1qdd2 [03:12] IPFS New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above. [03:13] XRevan86 If main() doesn't have int or void, it has int, but it's implicit. [03:13] matey c sells csh by the c shore [03:13] schestowitz-TR xi sells [03:13] matey i dont know their preferred pronoun [03:14] schestowitz-TR bears are "it" [03:14] schestowitz-TR pooh the bear is he [03:14] schestowitz-TR xi is she [03:14] schestowitz-TR but only audibly [03:14] schestowitz-TR gn [03:15] matey that actually reminds me of the lyrics to tom lehrers imaginary version of gilbert and sullivans take on oh my darling clementine [03:15] XRevan86 > and before that, didnt even include stdio but used printf anyway [03:16] XRevan86 matey: Huh, never heard of that quirk. [03:17] matey well it stands to reason [03:17] matey to include stdio, stdio must exist [03:17] matey and and stdio was a feature of version 7 at the earliest [03:17] matey and rob pike was using version 6 unix [03:18] matey in version 6 they had started standardising io but [03:18] matey it was version 7 where they really had the most reason to do so [03:18] matey why include it if the os doesnt have it? [03:18] matey i mean it wasnt part of the design yet [03:19] matey and pipes > originally > looked like this > [03:19] matey but then they must have decided that was crazy | and switched | to this [03:20] matey but for pipes to work, io had to be standard [03:20] TR News Real Madrid made it to CL final many times, and moreover won many times. Aston Villa did both before. But if both reach the CL final and play one another, you can finally say Villareal made it to the final of CL, not just semis like this year. [03:20] matey and for unix to be unix, it has to have pipes [03:20] matey so imo unix wasnt even REALLY unix until version 7 [03:20] matey but the history is interesting all the same [03:21] matey there was some other form of ipc that competed with pipes in version 5 or 6 [03:21] matey it never caught on and came from some big company like hp or something [03:21] matey "But I love she, and she loves me [03:21] matey And raptured are the both of we [03:21] matey Yes, I love she and she loves I [03:21] matey And will through all eterni-ty! [03:21] matey " [03:22] matey tom lehrer poking at gilbert and sullivan [03:23] matey he might not hate them, he had a go at cole porter too [03:26] matey im not a fan of googlers of course [03:27] matey but the book rob pike wrote with brian kernighan (and im a huge fan of kernighan, he didnt just write awk but hes sort of the author of hello world) [03:27] matey dennis ritchie told him to write it [03:27] matey the unix programming environment [03:28] matey rob pike sent an email to ritchie and kernighan saying please please write this, its an important book [03:28] matey and ritchie went to his office and said "why dont you write it" [03:28] matey so he did, with kernighan [03:29] matey "its full of in-jokes that almost nobody gets, but that makes them even better" [03:29] matey "doug mcilroy the smartest person youve never heard of" rob pike [03:30] matey i know who he is. hes the person who did unix pipes. [03:31] matey a candidate for my favourite programmer in all of history [03:31] matey though parts of the idea surely predate his implementation [03:32] matey pipes are wasteful in terms of efficiency, and sometimes i redo things to avoid them [03:32] matey and even most of the things i do to avoid them are absolutely designed in a way they inspired [03:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 25.36 k/sec., IPFS upstream 53.93 average k/sec., average swarm size 1162.35 ● May 08 [04:06] activelow dirty hack... nonetheless, abduco session manager got session timeout now, and optional single-client-attach [04:08] activelow re-iterating over the idea, a socket exposing the entire session ... at least i'll notice, if something happens [04:52] *goosestepping_ (~goosestepping@9ucczhkmm895g.irc) has joined #techrights [04:53] *goosestepping_ has quit (Quit: Ping timeout: Over 9000!!!) 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Eaton PowerWare took over from Best Power, who used to make the top-quality ferroresonant pure sinewave UPSs... but this Eaton one isn't even turning on :( They are a main company that contributes to the Free/Libre Software (FLS) Network UPS Tools so I wanted to try them [07:35] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [07:42] *rianne (~rianne@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights [07:42] *rianne (~rianne@freenode-b0g.0m6.7132oi.IP) has joined #techrights [07:42] *liberty_box (~liberty@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights [07:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 18.75 k/sec., IPFS upstream 67.35 average k/sec., average swarm size 386.05 ● May 08 [08:06] TR News #Techrights Bulletin for Saturday, May 07, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [08:06] TR Bot Bulletin Archives [08:07] TR News #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [08:07] TR Bot Techrights Full IPFS Index [08:08] TR News In Spite of All the AstroTurfing, Microsoft Edge (Ripoff of Chrome) is Falling Every Month So Far This Year (Along With Windows) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/07/browsers-by-use/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/07/browsers-by-use/ [08:08] TR Bot In Spite of All the AstroTurfing, Microsoft Edge (Ripoff of Chrome) is Falling Every Month So Far This Year (Along With Windows) | Techrights [08:09] TR News "Wine is the compatibility layer that allows you to run games and applications developed for Windows - on Linux (plus also macOS and BSD)" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/wine-78-is-out-now-with-x11-and-oss-drivers-converted-to-pe/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [08:09] TR Bot 7.8 is out now with X11 and OSS drivers converted to PE | GamingOnLinux [08:10] TR News "Germany based ICP has launched a compact PC based on Intels processors (11th Gen Intel Core & Celeron) for DIN rail use" https://linuxgizmos.com/din-rail-pc-with-four-2-5gbe-lan-dual-display-and-pcie-x4-slot/ | Source: Linux Gizmos [08:10] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/din-rail-pc-with-four-2-5gbe-lan-dual-display-and-pcie-x4-slot/ ) [08:10] TR News ">Radxarecently unveiled details about their newest SBC (Single Board Computer) Rock Pi 4 C+. At first sight" https://linuxgizmos.com/radxa-offers-affordable-rock-pi-4-c-equipped-with-rockchip-rk3399-t-processor/ | Source: Linux Gizmos [08:10] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/radxa-offers-affordable-rock-pi-4-c-equipped-with-rockchip-rk3399-t-processor/ ) [08:14] TR News old: US Patent for Methods and systems for providing FIDO authentication services Patent (Patent # 10,917,405 issued February 9, 2021) - Justia Patents Search https://patents.justia.com/patent/10917405 Source: patents [08:14] TR Bot US Patent for Methods and systems for providing FIDO authentication services Patent (Patent # 10,917,405 issued February 9, 2021) - Justia Patents Search [08:14] TR News David Walden, Computer Scientist at Dawn of Internet, Dies at 79 - The New York Times https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/03/technology/david-walden-dead.html Source: nytimes [08:14] TR Bot David Walden, Computer Scientist at Dawn of Internet, Dies at 79 - The New York Times [08:15] TR News GNU Radio Amplitude Modulation https://odysee.com/@TallPaulTech:b/gnu-radio-amplitude-modulation:f Source: TallPaulTech [08:15] TR Bot GNU Radio Amplitude Modulation [08:16] TR News old: How criminals like Bill Gates bribe those who are meant to write about the crimes https://www.projectcensored.org/state-of-the-billionaire-press-concerns-over-media-objectivity-after-bill-gates-gives-319-million-to-news-outlets/ [08:16] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/state-of-the-billionaire-press-concerns-over-media-objectivity-after-bill-gates-gives-319-million-to-news-outlets/ ) [08:16] TR News Social control media ruins you https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-05-05/a-week-off-social-media-reduces-depression-and-anxiety-research?sref=E9Urfma4 [08:16] TR Bot - Are you a robot? [08:17] TR News "In preparing some data for another upcoming blog post, I needed to convert a list of fully qualified GitHub repository names " https://qmacro.org/blog/posts/2022/05/06/converting-strings-to-objects-with-jq/ | Source: DJ Adams [08:17] TR Bot Converting strings to objects with jq | DJ Adams [08:17] TR News "I came across a great article via lobsters recently: Introducing zq: an Easier (and Faster) Alternative to jq." https://qmacro.org/blog/posts/2022/05/02/some-thoughts-on-jq-and-statelessness/ | Source: DJ Adams [08:17] TR Bot Some thoughts on jq and statelessness | DJ Adams [08:19] TR News "In our 2003 SOSP "Best Paper" Preserving Peer Replicas By Rate-Limited Sampled Voting (also here, expanded version here) we introduced a number of concepts." https://blog.dshr.org/2022/05/probabilistic-fault-tolerance.html | Source: David Rosenthal [08:19] TR Bot DSHR's Blog: Probabilistic Fault Tolerance [08:19] TR News "Similar to how the International Space Station maintains its orientation" https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/05/05/this-gyroscopic-stabilizer-aims-to-reduce-boat-roll-in-waves/ | Source: Arduino [08:19] TR Bot This gyroscopic stabilizer aims to reduce boat roll in waves | Arduino Blog [08:20] TR News "Half of the sites on the [Internet] are so overloaded with tracking scripts, ads, third-party "analytics" platforms" https://flower.codes/2022/03/23/backwards-compatibility.html | [08:20] TR Bot To Build an Absurdly Backwards Compatible Website | flower.codes [08:20] TR News "At first Fig presents itself as just an auto-complete tool and, don't get me wrong, if that is all you are looking for" https://matduggan.com/fig-terminal-autocomplete-review/ | [08:20] TR Bot Fig Terminal Auto-complete Review [08:20] TR News "This blog post documents my understanding of how the conventions for Unix command line syntax have evolved over time" https://blog.liw.fi/posts/2022/05/07/unix-cli/ | Source: Lars Wirzenius [08:20] TR Bot Unix command line conventions over time [08:21] TR News
  • [08:21] TR News "Another Exercism Bash track exercise, another opportunity to learn from the community solutions." https://qmacro.org/blog/posts/2022/04/17/bash-notes-3/ | Source: DJ Adams [08:21] TR Bot Bash notes 3 | DJ Adams [08:22] TR News "I looked at a couple of more solutions to another Exercism exercise in the Bash track - Scrabble Score." https://qmacro.org/blog/posts/2022/04/10/bash-notes-2/ | Source: DJ Adams [08:22] TR Bot Bash notes 2 | DJ Adams [08:22] TR News "I completed a very basic solution to the Proverb exercise in the Bash track on Exercism" https://qmacro.org/blog/posts/2022/04/07/bash-notes/ | Source: DJ Adams [08:22] TR Bot Bash notes | DJ Adams [08:22] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:24] TR News "According to court documents, the current group of claimants has spent a total of 2,742 days in jail or prison because of false arrests." https://www.thestreet.com/investing/heres-why-you-might-get-arrested-for-renting-from-hertz | Source: The Street [08:24] TR Bot Why You Might Get Arrested For Renting From Hertz - TheStreet [08:24] TR News "Their experiences may be the tip of a large iceberg. Hertz acknowledges that it files some 3,500 theft reports per year on customers" https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2022-03-14/renting-a-car-from-hertz-you-could-wind-up-in-jail | Source: Los Angeles Times [08:24] TR Bot Hiltzik: Hertz customers face the risk of arrest - Los Angeles Times [08:25] TR News "When talking to rental company, document everything" https://eu.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2022/03/04/rental-car-consumer-rights/9365841002/ | Source: Gannett [08:25] TR Bot Rental cars: Some Hertz customers face arrest. What are your rights? [08:25] TR News "happen only after exhaustive attempts to reach the customer." https://www.thedrive.com/news/44327/hertz-customer-arrested-for-rental-theft-a-year-after-the-car-was-returned-report | Source: The Drive [08:25] TR Bot Hertz Customer Thrown in Jail for Rental Car 'Theft' a Year After He Returned It: Report [08:25] TR News "Hertz refuses to correct a police report when they've learned payments [were] made, when they've learned the car's been returned" https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hertz-car-rental-customer-arrested-new-hampshire/ | Source: CBS [08:25] TR Bot New Hampshire man arrested aboard cruise ship is latest to be accused of stealing Hertz rental car: "Most horrific experience of my life" - CBS News [08:26] TR News "The issue, which is being investigated by several US senators" https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/hertz-stolen-rental-car-reports-senate-investigation-called-for/ | Source: CNET [08:26] TR Bot Senators Call for Investigation of Hertz Stolen Vehicle Reports - CNET [08:28] TR News "Califfs position could mean the FDA takes a stronger stance on COVID misinformation" https://futurism.com/neoscope/fda-head-misinformation-leading-cause-death-covid-pandemic | Source: Futurism (which helps oover up for high-profile pedophiles, a sort of reputation laundering for money) [08:28] TR Bot Head of FDA Says Misinformation Is Now the Leading Cause of Death [08:29] TR News "I believe that misinformation is now our leading cause of death" https://healthjournalism.org/blog/2022/04/fda-commissioner-califf-sounds-the-alarm-on-health-misinformation-at-ahcj/ | [08:29] TR Bot FDA Commissioner Califf sounds the alarm onhealthmisinformation | Association of Health Care Journalists [08:30] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights [08:32] TR News "Why do I have so many "old" Apple computers, you ask? Because Apple builds exceptionally durable machines" http://flower.codes/2022/04/10/planned-obsolescence.html | [08:32] TR Bot ( status 308 @ http://flower.codes/2022/04/10/planned-obsolescence.html ) [08:32] TR News "YouTube Go, an app providing offline video access, will be shutting down in August." https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2022/05/05/youtube-go-is-shutting-down/ | Source: Digital Music News [08:32] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2022/05/05/youtube-go-is-shutting-down/ ) [08:34] TR News "focus on the most meaningful experiences" https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2022/05/03/facebook-podcasts-shutting-down-in-june/ | Source: Digital Music News [08:34] TR Bot Facebook Is Abruptly Shutting Down Podcasts [08:34] TR News "Real reason: MS had a deal in place with Novell to include some handling of Novell Netware client drive mappings." https://liam-on-linux.dreamwidth.org/83538.html | [08:34] TR Bot liam_on_linux | The real reason that the first version of Windows NT was called 3.1 [08:35] TR News "If we were to discuss simplicity only in the terms of overall size of the code, and define malware" https://isc.sans.edu/diary/rss/28620 | Source: SANS [08:35] TR Bot InfoSec Handlers Diary Blog - SANS Internet Storm Center [08:35] TR News "the phishing campaign was first detected in October" https://siliconangle.com/2022/05/04/uks-national-health-service-infected-massive-phishing-campaign/ | Source: Silicon Angle [08:35] TR Bot National Health Service infected by massive phishing campaign - SiliconANGLE [08:36] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techrights [08:36] TR News "But the rise of retail investigators raises civil liberties and privacy concerns, experts say." https://www.nbcnews.com/news/investigations/secret-surveillance-mining-customer-data-retailers-help-bag-shopliftin-rcna22259 | Source: NBC [08:36] TR Bot Secret surveillance, mining customer data: How retailers help bag shoplifting kingpins [08:37] TR News "Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not against the existence of smartphones" https://flower.codes/2022/05/02/i-hate-my-smartphone.html | [08:37] TR Bot Hate My Smartphone | flower.codes [08:37] TR News "EU Commission will present an EU draft law on mandatory chat control" https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/chat-control-eu-commission-presents-mass-surveillance-plan-on-may-11/ | Source: Patrick Breyer [08:37] TR Bot Chat control: EU Commission presents mass surveillance plan on May 11 Patrick Breyer [08:37] TR News "how authentication decisions will be made." https://restofworld.org/2022/where-anonymity-on-twitter-is-a-matter-of-life-or-death/ | [08:37] TR Bot Why Elon Musks ambition to have Twitter authenticate all real humans will get people killed - Rest of World [08:38] TR News "Some improvement is possible in Passport without violating the system's goals of supporting unmodified browsers" https://www.cs.jhu.edu/~rubin/courses/sp03/papers/passport.pdf | [08:42] TR News "Divers like Sides take their roles as amateur investigators seriously." https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/youtube-scuba-diver-jeremy-sides-adventure-purpose-1340457/ | Source: Rolling Stone [08:43] TR Bot YouTube Scuba Divers Are Solving Cold Cases --And Racking Up Views - Rolling Stone [08:43] TR News Melinda "called Gates out for his relationship with Epstein" https://futurism.com/the-byte/bill-gates-jeffrey-epstein-bad-idea | Source: Futurism [08:43] TR Bot Bill Gates Says It Was a Bad Idea to Pal Around With Jeffrey Epstein [08:43] TR News "A final decision on whether the men will be extradited now sits with Justice Minister Kris Faafoi" https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/127354588/final-supreme-court-ruling-clears-path-for-decision-on-kim-dotcom-extradition | Source: Suff NZ [08:43] TR Bot Supreme Court ruling clears path for decision on Kim Dotcom extradition | Stuff.co.nz [08:43] TR News "The judges don't always agree either" https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/empathy-critical-to-role-says-retiring-supreme-court-judge/DJ7PIKYBD6KRE4XMHOFKNLRGA4/ | Source: New Zealand Herald [08:43] TR Bot Empathy 'critical' to role, says retiring Supreme Court judge - NZ Herald [08:44] TR News "The arrests were on behalf of the FBI, which was carrying out a worldwide operation targeting Megaupload." https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/kim-dotcom-set-to-father-sixth-child-first-with-new-wife-liz/ZNVMUMTMOQVYVCPZ5EFO3HWPOI/ | Source: New Zealand Herald [08:44] TR Bot Kim Dotcom set to father sixth child, first with new wife Liz - NZ Herald [08:44] TR News "New footage has come out of the raid on Kim's home" https://www.businessinsider.com/new-footage-shows-just-how-crazy-the-kim-dotcom-raid-was-2012-8 | Source: Business Insider [08:44] TR Bot New Footage Shows Just How Crazy the Kim Dotcom Raid Was [08:45] TR News "The raid was part of a worldwide FBI operation to take down Dotcom's Megaupload" https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/dotcom-wins-settlement-from-police-over-the-2012-dawn-raid-which-saw-him-arrested/2EGYXEM64SKGMYHJPZ23QNIRO4/ | Source: New Zealand Herald [08:45] TR Bot Dotcom wins settlement from police over the 2012 dawn raid which saw him arrested - NZ Herald [08:45] TR News "Usage on social media platforms hasnt necessarily slowed over time" (it DID!) https://variety.com/vip/social-media-slowdown-tests-investors-loyalty-1235259462/ | Source: Variety [08:45] TR Bot Media Slowdown Tests Investors' Loyalty - Variety [08:45] TR News "Despite saying it was targeting only news outlets, the company deployed an algorithm for deciding what pages to take down" https://www.wsj.com/articles/facebook-deliberately-caused-havoc-in-australia-to-influence-new-law-whistleblowers-say-11651768302 | Source: The Wall Street Journal [08:45] TR Bot Deliberately Caused Havoc in Australia to Influence New Law, Whistleblowers Say - WSJ [08:46] TR News [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D582.jpg [08:47] TR News [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D225.jpg [08:47] TR News So I Installed Arch on My Work Mac gemini://moddedbear.xyz/logs/2022-05-07-so-i-installed-arch-on-my-work-mac.gmi [08:48] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164600 [08:48] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [08:49] TR News A Critique of Lagrange gemini://ainent.xyz/gemlog/2022-05-07-critique-of-lagrange.gmi "This is not a full review of Lagrange, but rather discussing one specific aspect of it. My intention here is to start a conversation." [08:51] TR News "Jokes can make us grimace and squirm as we laugh...or don't." https://text.npr.org/1097329698 | Source: NPR [08:51] TR Bot Opinion: For comedians, safety is a growing concern [08:51] TR News "There was no text; no pictures; just an explanation." https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/russia-journalists-flee-law-1.6397505 | Source: CBC [08:51] TR Bot 'Fake news' law forced many Russian journalists abroad. Those who remain must weigh truth against safety | CBC News [08:51] TR News "The World Wide Web turned 33 last month" https://restofworld.org/2022/newsletter-south-asia-the-real-cost-of-internet-shutdowns-in-south-asia/ | [08:51] TR Bot The real cost of internet shutdowns in South Asia - Rest of World [08:52] TR News "This article is not about Julian Assange as a person" https://freedomnews.org.uk/2022/04/25/why-has-julian-assange-lost-in-the-high-court-where-lauri-love-won-and-what-could-this-mean-for-journalism/ | [08:52] TR Bot Why has Julian Assange lost in the High Court, where Lauri Love won, and what could this mean for Journalism? Freedom News [08:58] *goosestepping_ has quit (Quit: Ping timeout: Over 9000!!!) [08:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 15.15 k/sec., IPFS upstream 61.55 average k/sec., average swarm size 401.76 [08:59] TR News "In a sign that federal labor officials are closely scrutinizing management behavior during union campaigns" https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/06/business/economy/nlrb-amazon-starbucks.html | Source: New York Times [08:59] TR Bot NLRB Finds Merit in Union Accusations Against Amazon and Starbucks - The New York Times ● May 08 [09:00] TR News "The firings, which occurred outside the companys typical employee review cycle" https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/06/technology/amazon-fires-managers-union-staten-island.html | Source: New York Times [09:00] TR Bot Amazon Fires Senior Managers Tied to Unionized Staten Island Warehouse - The New York Times [09:03] TR News "As Wi-Fi is deployed more widely in cities, and perhaps at higher frequencies, it may depend on an abundant urban asset: streetlight poles." https://www.nist.gov/news-events/news/2022/05/wi-fi-may-be-coming-soon-lamppost-near-you More spying enabled "passively" (network scanning) [09:03] TR Bot Wi-Fi May Be Coming Soon to a Lamppost Near You | NIST [09:03] TR News "Although Xbox seemed to resolve these problems, it looks like issues with its store, digital titles, and Cloud Gaming have started to resurface." https://www.theverge.com/2022/5/7/23061588/xbox-having-more-issues-affecting-cloud-gaming-digital-titles | Source: The Verge [09:03] TR Bot An Xbox outage is preventing some players from launching digital titles - The Verge [09:04] TR News Threat to privacy and not necessarily better security, either. Imperialistic agenda. https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/05/your-phone-may-soon-replace-many-of-your-passwords/ | Source: Krebs On Security [09:04] TR Bot Your Phone May Soon Replace Many of Your Passwords Krebs on Security [09:05] TR News 'No Corporation That Breaks the Law Should Get a Federal Contract' https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/07/sanders-says-no-corporation-breaks-law-should-get-federal-contract | Source: Common Dreams http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/ [09:05] TR Bot Sanders Says 'No Corporation That Breaks the Law Should Get a Federal Contract' [09:05] TR Bot The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers Expense | Techrights [09:11] *goosestepping_ (~goosestepping@364qzw3cacaj2.irc) has joined #techrights [09:13] TR News "Large-scale pirate IPTV operations can generate significant profits but with that comes the chance of significant liability should things go bad." https://torrentfreak.com/iptv-pirate-agrees-to-pay-well-over-half-a-billion-dollars-in-damages-220507/ | Source: Torrent Freak [09:13] TR Bot Pirate Agrees to Pay Well Over Half a Billion Dollars in Damages * TorrentFreak [09:16] TR News Where we are, the Green Party has twice as many votes as Conservatives https://www.manchester.gov.uk/electionresults [09:16] TR Bot 5 May 2022 Local Election Results | The next election | Manchester City Council [09:20] TR News "Starbucks has been saying that no union-busting ever occurred in Buffalo. Today, the NLRB sets the record straight." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/07/workers-say-nlrb-complaint-fully-unmasks-starbucks-facade-progressive-company | Source: Common Dreams [09:20] TR Bot Workers Say NLRB Complaint "Fully Unmasks Starbucks' Facade as a Progressive Company" [09:21] TR News "Trust me, you dont have to build your own keyboard from the deskpad up to be happy or feel like one of the cool kids." https://hackaday.com/2022/05/07/mods-make-a-stock-keyboard-your-own/ | Source: Hackaday [09:21] TR Bot Make A Stock Keyboard Your Own | Hackaday [09:21] TR News "Theres no shortage of ESP32 development boards out there" https://hackaday.com/2022/05/07/bee-motion-combines-esp32-with-pir-sensor-and-usb-c/ | Source: Hackaday [09:21] TR Bot Motion Combines ESP32 With PIR Sensor And USB-C | Hackaday [09:26] TR News >Wine Staging 7.8 Released with Improved Alt+Tab Handling for Unity Games http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164573#comment-33581 [09:26] TR Bot Wine development release 7.8 is now available. | Tux Machines [09:27] TR News Bash is not "Linux", sorry... https://medium.com/techtofreedom/5-types-of-expansions-on-linux-9de60e812119 [09:27] TR Bot Types of Expansions on Linux. A small feature can make your life much | by Yang Zhou | TechToFreedom | May, 2022 | Medium [09:29] TR News Tor 0.4.7 Stable Version Released - LinuxStoney https://linuxstoney.com/tor-0-4-7-stable-version-released/ Source: linuxstoney [09:29] TR Bot 0.4.7 Stable Version Released - LinuxStoney [09:29] TR News Nextcloud Hub 24 automates data export and import - LinuxStoney https://linuxstoney.com/nextcloud-hub-24-automates-data-export-and-import/ Source: linuxstoney [09:29] TR Bot Hub 24 automates data export and import - LinuxStoney [09:29] TR News IRC Proceedings: Saturday, May 07, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/08/irc-log-070522/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/08/irc-log-070522/ [09:29] TR Bot IRC Proceedings: Saturday, May 07, 2022 | Techrights [09:31] TR News "I'm watching paddington with my coworkers and its wild how much like a wes anderson film this is" gemini://alex.flounder.online/journal.gmi [09:31] TR News "I feel like I'm frequently 3-4 years behind on most mainstream media." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/929 [09:34] *goosestepping_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:37] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Quit: reconfiguring) [09:40] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@qh6zykc985e64.irc) has joined #techrights [09:46] *SomeH4x0r has quit (connection closed) [09:48] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@5ndiqr8x9nvuy.irc) has joined #techrights [09:49] TR News Counter-intuitive if you believe the buzzwords, but smart people would reject smartphones (based on actual information, not fashion and trends) [09:49] TR News Proprietary Stuff and DRM Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164601 [09:49] TR Bot Proprietary Stuff and DRM | Tux Machines [09:56] TR News Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164602 [09:56] TR Bot Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [09:56] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164603 [09:56] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [09:58] TR News Links 08/05/2022: Nextcloud Hub 24 and Tor 0.4.7 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/08/tor-0-4-7/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/08/tor-0-4-7/ [09:58] TR Bot Links 08/05/2022: Nextcloud Hub 24 and Tor 0.4.7 | Techrights ● May 08 [10:00] *goosestepping_ (~goosestepping@364qzw3cacaj2.irc) has joined #techrights [10:18] *goosestepping_ has quit (Quit: Ping timeout: Over 9000!!!) 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[14:22] TR Bot PATROLL aims to shatter records in 2022 Unified Patents [14:22] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [14:23] TR News "But with more than a year since Director Iancu stepped down from the USPTO, Fintiv and 314(a) denials have plummeted dramatically." https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/5/2/ptab-discretionary-denials-fall-board-time-spent-on-issue-rises http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Andrei_Iancu [14:23] TR Bot PTAB Discretionary Denials Fall; Board Time Spent on Issue Rises Unified Patents [14:23] TR Bot Andrei Iancu - Techrights [14:24] *bnchs (~bnchs@gfdy2u9d5cznn.irc) has joined #techrights [14:24] TR News "resulted in claims 110, 1322, and 2534 of U.S. Patent 9,553,880 being found unpatentable" https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/4/28/b-on-demand-voluntarily-dismissed-own-fed-circuit-appeal [14:24] TR Bot B# On Demand abandons own Federal Circuit appeal Unified Patents [14:27] *CParadoxum__ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:44] *CParadoxum__ (~quassel@9xkr6pdp2c5xu.irc) has joined #techrights [14:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 17.98 k/sec., IPFS upstream 36.01 average k/sec., average swarm size 585.76 ● May 08 [15:07] *CrystalMath (~coderain@2nbpmqewvdzyq.irc) has joined #techrights [15:10] TR News The Charade of Fake News and Lobbying (Based on Lies) by Team UPC | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/08/team-upc-disinformation/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/08/team-upc-disinformation/ [15:10] TR Bot The Charade of Fake News and Lobbying (Based on Lies) by Team UPC | Techrights [15:34] MinceR (cat) https://i.imgur.com/CMr6vme.jpeg [15:35] matey Summary: Volunteers of Debian face an unwelcoming gesture not because of critics online but because it seems clear that Debian leadership misuses very limited Debian funds to SLAPP disgruntled volunteers; the project is not in good hands and this needs to be corrected before it gets yet worse [15:36] matey "the project is not in good hands and this needs to be corrected before it gets yet worse" so um, some time between 2014 and now, then? [15:36] matey 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, [15:36] matey 2020, 2021, 2022... [15:37] matey "and this needs to be corrected" what, no "debian will be gone" as the solution? (github, ibm, microsoft, mozilla) [15:37] matey but waiting for hell to close is always the solution [15:37] matey "sorry people, hell is full" [15:37] matey "youll just have to go somewhere else" [15:38] matey im open to solutions if anybody has one [15:38] matey my guess is the solution is waiting another 7 or 8 years for debian to stop being a bunch of cunts [15:38] matey good luck with that [15:39] matey maybe it will become the universally loathed distro [15:39] matey its practically ubuntu now anyway [15:40] matey "fedora lite" [15:40] matey distros were better when there were still distros [15:41] matey and not just package repos for systemd [15:41] matey my question is: if debians real job is to peddle a pile of shit [15:42] matey who do you EXPECT to do that, EXCEPT a bunch of cunts? [15:42] matey who else would even take the job? [15:42] bnchs i migrated to artix [15:42] bnchs specifically openrc [15:43] matey that was fast [15:43] matey not sarcasm-- didnt you announce your intent like 48 hours ago? [15:43] bnchs [12:57:09] i'm migrating to artix linux [15:44] bnchs the guide wasn't straightforward [15:44] bnchs i had to change a few commands [15:45] bnchs hey at least it actually shutdowns faster [15:45] bnchs rather than ending with 3000 kauditd callbacks [15:45] matey /me doesnt even know what kauditd is [15:45] matey oh [15:45] matey k audit d [15:46] matey stupid "init" [15:46] bnchs and complaining about systemd-homed not existing [15:46] matey please wait while systemd performs kernel updates [15:46] matey do not shut off your computer. [15:48] matey immediate knee jerk when systemd inevitably implements windows-style mandatory updates and people complain: [15:48] matey there are plenty of distros you can use without systemd [15:48] bnchs i'm not done with the transition yet [15:49] matey you can compile it without the mandatory updates option [15:49] MinceR they had better hurry up if they want to use that knee jerk [15:49] matey do you think running out of date kernels is a good idea? ● May 08 [16:00] *Skywave has quit (connection closed) [16:00] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@4wr2j48cc8cmq.irc) has joined #techrights [16:05] MinceR (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypn3Fe_PLts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0c7wcpJslg [16:05] TR Bot https://y.com.sb/watch?v=ypn3Fe_PLts [16:05] TR Bot y.com.sb | Yellowstone Won't Explode And End Civilisation (Sorry) | The Deep Dive - Invidious [16:05] TR Bot https://invidious.esmailelbob.xyz/watch?v=v0c7wcpJslg [16:05] TR Bot invidious.esmailelbob.xyz | You Dont Need to Worry About Yellowstone (or Any Other Supervolcano) - Invidious [16:09] XRevan86 MinceR: Come on, Russian TV promised me this like years ago. [16:09] MinceR :> [16:10] XRevan86 They never follow through. [16:10] MinceR don't worry, volcano or no volcano, humans will take care of exterminating themselves [16:12] matey /me isnt surprised mincer is so cynical after what happened to the revolution in hungary [16:12] matey and the state of things there today [16:13] MinceR all our revolutions were pointless [16:13] matey though people do have a habit of projecting the state of their country onto the rest of the world [16:13] matey well, i dont know of anyone that fought more tenaciously than the hungarians [16:13] MinceR why fight for freedom and independence if the majority just goes and decides they _want_ to live in a dictatorship ruled by terrorussia in 2010? [16:13] matey so i can understand the cynicism now [16:13] XRevan86 Over the years my disagreement with MinceR on this went from categorical disagreement to a shrug. [16:14] matey cynicism is a useful point of view for some things [16:14] matey underrated in my opinion [16:14] XRevan86 My view on the world has gotten very bleak. [16:14] matey and like anything else, it has its limist [16:14] matey a bit like my typing [16:14] XRevan86 And yes, it is projecting the state of my country. [16:14] matey why fight for freedom and independence if the majority just goes and decides they _want_ to live in a dictatorship <- because people do get tired of it [16:14] matey but when they miss windows of opportunity it costs them decades [16:15] matey and half a revolution is ultimately like none at all [16:15] matey reform will never work [16:15] matey revolution (debatably) hasnt yet [16:15] matey if you dont believe in either of those, humanity has nothing to hope for [16:15] XRevan86 matey: Half-revolutions can still be progress. [16:16] XRevan86 matey: Like what's happening in Kazakhstan. [16:16] matey a half revolution will be destroyed by counterrevolution [16:16] matey its worth fighting of course [16:16] XRevan86 The cult of Nazarbayev's personality is dying out. [16:16] matey because if it turns into a full revolution, then half is a good start [16:16] matey its just that half a revolution isnt enough to sustain itself [16:17] matey well im more optimistic than mincer. thats not hard. [16:17] XRevan86 Even though the revolution was squashed, the effort still changed the political balance of power. [16:17] matey hes literally the most cynical person i know [16:17] matey and to make matters worse, hes right about many things [16:18] matey Even though the revolution was squashed <- the one thing about half a revolution that really serves the future long term is [16:18] matey it provides lessons (both happy and unhappy) for future efforts [16:18] matey half a revolution is a mix of victory and failure [16:18] matey we can learn from both [16:19] matey the cynic cant learn from victory [16:19] matey they see it as only failure [16:19] matey failure is a hard lesson-- death, torture, slavery [16:20] matey all the worst aspects of mankind [16:20] matey all the best things to fight [16:22] matey i have no idea how the people driving these things have their ears still attached to their heads [16:22] matey ive lost most of my hearing for at least 20 minutes (decades ago) [16:22] XRevan86 matey: I don't really see the world in the revolution/counterrevolution light. What I see is political powers' mobility, accountability, rotation. [16:23] matey everything that has happened to free software for the past 20 years is revolution/counterrevolution, mostly the latter [16:23] matey my associate calls it the free software thermidor [16:23] XRevan86 Basically, the way I see it, counter-revolution is just bound to happen if the people in power work the political system in such a way that they will just have it unconditionally. [16:23] XRevan86 Erosion of the political process, corruption, et al. [16:24] matey counter-revolution is just bound to happen <- this much i agree with [16:24] matey Erosion of the political process, corruption, et al. <- yes [16:25] matey even russia had two revolutions (the second being the october) before it took [16:25] matey lenins health failed, stalin got in, we know how that worked out [16:26] matey the funny thing was, stalin never had the ambition to do the horrible things he did [16:26] matey he only sought to be in charge [16:26] matey once he gained power, he held onto that so tightly that he was willing to murder anyone who opposed it [16:26] matey he was batshit insane [16:26] matey finally they killed him for it [16:27] XRevan86 matey: The ugly thing is that the Us-Them traitor mentality was there even before Stalin got in charge. [16:27] matey sure [16:27] matey but false/forced unity doesnt solve that [16:27] XRevan86 So the poison was there. [16:27] matey let me make sure i dont misunderstand your point about this [16:28] matey you dont think the concept of a traitor is entirely useless or counterproductive? [16:28] matey we would agree either way im sure, that the notion can be abused, taken advantage of opportunistically (and often is) [16:28] matey but thats not my question [16:29] XRevan86 matey: I think that the Soviet Russia was built on undermining people who disagreed, and then on the Civil War, and that created a very unhealthy dynamic. [16:29] matey labelling opponents as traitors is completely unoriginal [16:29] XRevan86 And then Stalin rode that wave and made it an absolute. [16:29] matey I think that the Soviet Russia was built on undermining people who disagreed <- this i would agree, created a situation ripe for stalin, yes [16:30] matey lenin said "you want obedience? youll have obedient fools!" [16:30] XRevan86 But I'd still fault Stalin for Stalin in the same fashion as I fault Putin for Putin. [16:30] matey of course [16:30] matey you have to work pretty hard to be the worst. [16:31] XRevan86 Putin's Russia is an extension of Yeltsin's Russia, and all the vices of the latter allowed the former to come to this world. [16:32] matey you think putin is an alcoholic? [16:32] XRevan86 matey: I meant vices like legalised thuggery. [16:32] matey that makes more sense [16:32] XRevan86 Oligarchy, et al. [16:32] matey of course [16:34] XRevan86 And Putin is a product of the Russia's 90s much more than he's a product of KGB even. [16:35] matey supervillains often have interesting (if cliched) origin stories [16:37] *AdmFubar has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [16:38] *activelow sighs [16:38] activelow found one wrongdoer, who changed permissions of (bsd) tty device nodes... [16:39] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/stages https://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/165133416420220430after.png [16:39] TR Bot Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Stages [16:40] activelow rather concerning, given ... see what dtach/dvtm could do, if some tty dev node permissions allow [16:41] activelow kernel unix98 style tty device nodes, udev etc... complicate this further [16:42] activelow bsd-style pty device node management, at least, handover control back to the administrator [16:42] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has joined #techrights [16:43] activelow yet, if any daemon with root privileges mis-behaves, tty device nodes with mode 666 are dangling [16:44] activelow if then, any ordinar user grabs such a tty node the terminal session exposes read-write permissions to everyone on the system [16:46] activelow digging into dvtm terminal multiplexer sources raised even more concerns [16:47] activelow at, least, what i got now, with a terminal session managed by dvtm, is notifications when a session was handed over to another client/ssh-connect/login, and session-detach timeout [16:49] activelow and tty device node ownership and permissions are statically set chown/chmod once during system-boot, by the admininistrator, which is me [16:49] activelow not kernel, not udev, not systemd... [16:50] activelow and i wouldn't trust openpty()/forkpty()/grantpt() etc.., regardless who implemented it, linux kernel or *bsd [16:52] activelow openbsd implemented wscons, the other *bsd do openpty() nowadays, seems only linux kernel offers the traditional bsd pty [16:53] activelow another minor benefit of statically managed bsd pty device nodes; by chown/chmod to a dedicated user/group, the administrator can decide who and how many pseudo terminals are available to anyone, such as ssh sessions [16:54] activelow so, i rather live with the limitations of pre-Unix98 pty than any openpty() implementation [16:55] activelow which reminds me of the dispute Alan Cox resigned over... which was a race-condition issue withing kernel pty handling... [16:55] activelow besides, i do not trust any of the dynamic device node management such as udev/mdev etc... i removed this entirely [16:56] activelow again, i rather live with the disadvantages of this, such as de-reattaching a usb sound or video device requires a sudo root chown of such nodes [16:57] activelow maybe, i will re-integrate some suckless.org device node manager, certainly not any udev implementation of it [16:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 25.75 k/sec., IPFS upstream 66.31 average k/sec., average swarm size 416.58 ● May 08 [17:13] TR News Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164606 [17:13] TR Bot Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [17:19] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/normal https://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/165150918120220502after.png [17:19] TR Bot Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Normal [17:43] schestowitz [17:39] is using lies about the UPC illegal or has the UPC become invalid/illegal itself? [17:43] schestowitz [17:39] yes some reinforcement of that can be added into the article [17:43] schestowitz [17:39] lies can be a violation in the legal profession [17:43] schestowitz [17:39] I think they have commitments [17:43] schestowitz [17:39] and I think calling them out on it [17:43] schestowitz [17:39] helps to silence them [17:43] schestowitz [17:39] they don't want to get caught ● May 08 [18:02] TR News UPC: A Neo-colonialist Plot | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/08/unitary-patent-system-neo-colonialist-plot/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/08/unitary-patent-system-neo-colonialist-plot/ [18:02] TR Bot UPC: A Neo-colonialist Plot | Techrights [18:05] matey Dishonesty, on the other hand, is regarded as an extremely serious matter and will almost certainly result in a referral to the Solicitors Disciplinary Tribunal and will, if it is proven, almost invariably result in a striking off. [18:05] matey https://www.lawyersdefencegroup.org.uk/our-services/conduct-and-regulatory-issues/misconduct-and-dishonesty/ [18:05] TR Bot Misconduct and Dishonesty - Lawyers Defence Group [18:06] matey anyones guess what the difference between theory, claims and practice are here [18:22] *matey has quit (connection closed) [18:33] schestowitz http://fussellcharles.com [18:33] schestowitz II did a video today about this SLAPPstick [18:33] TR Bot Fussell Charles & Jonathan Cohen & Debian Embezzlement [18:35] TR News Renewing tuaxmachines domain until 2027 when it turns 23! [18:36] TR News 7 Top Free and Open Source Crystal Web Frameworks Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164607 [18:36] TR Bot 7 Top Free and Open Source Crystal Web Frameworks | Tux Machines [18:36] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164608 [18:36] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [18:52] activelow console mouse support for text applications, such as w3m (no blame towards this)... [18:52] activelow another giant f***up [18:55] activelow either terminal lacks capabilities, or termcaps are not exposed by terminfo, or the individual application becomes confused about termcaps and how to handle them [18:57] activelow the simplest test case being on linux console (without X11); gpm started; TERM=linux w3m -o use_mouse=true $url [18:57] activelow guess what... [18:58] activelow within X11 at least TERM=xterm w3m does enable mouse support as it should be... yet x11/xterm won't be the main environment here, certainly not [18:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 17.20 k/sec., IPFS upstream 86.01 average k/sec., average swarm size 507.60 ● May 08 [19:00] activelow the linux console/gpm mouse bug with w3m was reported year 2006 already ... [19:08] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@juwwzfaape776.irc) has joined #techrights [19:14] MinceR (cat) https://i.imgur.com/4lduSgO.jpeg [19:25] DaemonFC Basically, the way I see it, counter-revolution is just bound to happen if the people in power work the political system in such a way that they will just have it unconditionally. [19:25] XRevan86 A bit clunky wording, I know. [19:25] DaemonFC Well, Putin could be setting Russia up for another revolution. One of the things that was stopping it was that he could turn the military on them if they tried. [19:26] DaemonFC But he's rapidly throwing away pretty much all their military equipment in Ukraine. [19:26] XRevan86 So far Putin's been able to squash every protest movement without using any military. [19:27] DaemonFC It's interesting that the police are fine with being paid in Rubles. [19:27] DaemonFC Maybe that will change. [19:28] XRevan86 So far it's been the police, the National Guard and the groupings like the "Cossacks" [19:28] DaemonFC The list of equipment lost in Ukraine is growing by the day. [19:28] DaemonFC It's already quite large. [19:29] DaemonFC I admit I was sitting here laughing pretty hard about the Moskva sinking. [19:29] DaemonFC Then the US government like "Yeah, we told Ukraine how to target it, but hey it was their decision to blow it up, so....". [19:30] XRevan86 DaemonFC: There's something iffy going on here, they stated that they didn't do that. [19:30] DaemonFC This is by far the most effective campaign of harassment the United States has ever waged against Russia. [19:30] DaemonFC The Republicans were bragging about Afghanistan and the Stingers. [19:32] DaemonFC The US military, Congress, and the CIA see the investment as worth every penny. [19:32] XRevan86 https://themoscowtimes.com/2022/05/06/pentagon-denies-helping-ukraine-sink-moskva-a77600 https://nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/biden-told-officials-media-reports-us-intel-sharing-ukraine-are-counte-rcna27738 [19:32] TR Bot Pentagon Denies Helping Ukraine Sink Moskva - The Moscow Times [19:32] TR Bot Biden told officials media reports about U.S. intel sharing with Ukraine are counterproductive [19:32] DaemonFC For a few billion dollars, there's a graveyard of destroyed Russian equipment and ships. [19:33] DaemonFC And we got to find out that the Russian military's most advanced tanks really aren't that effective against our Javelin system. [19:34] DaemonFC And at this rate, in just 90 days, there will be more than twice as many dead Russian soldiers in Ukraine than died in the entire campaign in Afghanistan. [19:34] *bnchs has quit (connection closed) [19:34] DaemonFC They're retreating from Kharkiv and blowing up bridges, afraid that the Ukrainian military will follow them as they retreat. [19:34] XRevan86 DaemonFC: Per Ukraine's claims it's already way above that. [19:35] DaemonFC Putin has turned to screaming at his generals (the ones that haven't been picked off yet) and threatening purges. [19:36] *bnchs (~bnchs@igb573hu9ciw2.irc) has joined #techrights [19:36] XRevan86 But even if they're overblowing it, the genuine number will still have to be at least close to 15k. [19:36] DaemonFC MinceR, I think Putin would have purged the generals except they had like 50 of them when they went into this and now he'd have to pick one of the five to blame. [19:36] DaemonFC B-) [19:37] XRevan86 DaemonFC: He can't openly purge anyone. [19:37] XRevan86 Because that would be admitting that something went seriously wrong. [19:37] XRevan86 But as we know, everything is going according to plan. [19:37] DaemonFC Well, he'll have to retire one of them due to sudden issues with their health. [19:37] DaemonFC It's funny how Ricin can do that. [19:38] XRevan86 That can only be done once or twice though. [19:38] DaemonFC Maybe one day for no particular reason, they'll start walking out of windows. [19:39] XRevan86 As far as I can tell, Putin is doing what he does best: he relieves people of duty in the back-stage informal government, while keeping their formal posts. [19:39] XRevan86 Putin is not a man of formalities. [19:40] DaemonFC So he'll keep them around as a figurehead and then just relay decisions someone else makes? [19:40] XRevan86 DaemonFC: Yes. [19:40] MinceR familiar [19:40] MinceR that's what orban had kasler do after he proved himself incompetent even by fideath standards [19:41] *Techrights-sec has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [19:41] *schestowitz-TR has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [19:41] *schestowitz-TR2 (~acer-box@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #techrights [19:41] chicksahoy prurigro: hiya [19:42] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@freenode-tqb26p.am6e.nqgd.t29qgt.IP) has joined #techrights [19:42] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:45] *asusbox has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:45] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:46] *bnchs (~bnchs@5jbv57cus2msc.irc) has joined #techrights [19:46] XRevan86 DaemonFC: Regarding the number of death, there's a big nasty catch: Russian's army is very mixed, and not everyone who died is, strictly speaking, part of the army, the National Guard was sent to Ukraine in the early days of the invasion, and they were by large just massacred. Then there are the PMC's and the armies of the quasi-republics L/DPR. All in all not every loss is counted the same by Russia. [19:50] XRevan86 The Ministry of *fence of Russia made a response in kind (kind of) and said that Ukraine lost 23k people from the army, National Guard, "foreign mercenaries" and other militarised groups (probably Terorobona). [19:50] MinceR *fence :D [19:50] XRevan86 The way I see it, they included everyone who came even close to being a partisan and got killed in there. [19:51] XRevan86 Maybe even a perceived partisan, who's going to check? [19:53] *immibis has quit (connection closed) [19:53] XRevan86 "Teroborona" <- "Territorial Defence Forces" of Ukraine [19:53] *immibis (~hexchat@acad4bt9wne9w.irc) has joined #techrights [19:53] *immibis_ (~hexchat@62.156.144.218) has joined #techrights [19:53] *immibis has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [19:57] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/pain-3 [19:57] TR Bot Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Pain [19:58] XRevan86 Tomorrow will be an exhausting day information-wise. [19:59] MinceR maybe disinformation-wise :> [19:59] XRevan86 All kinds. [19:59] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● May 08 [20:02] TR News New release of Tiny Core Linux "v13.1 ...A few minor updates ... See System Announcement in the support forum for detailed change log and update notes." http://www.tinycorelinux.net/ [20:02] TR Bot Tiny Core Linux, Micro Core Linux, 12MB Linux GUI Desktop, Live, Frugal, Extendable [20:02] XRevan86 Potentially something nasty will be announced, hard to predict with certainty. [20:03] *rianne_ (~rianne@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights [20:03] *asusbox (~rianne@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights [20:06] TR News How open source leads the way for sustainable technology | https://opensource.com/article/22/5/open-source-sustainable-technology Source: FreeSW | RedHat | IBM | GNU | Linux [20:06] TR Bot open source leads the way for sustainable technology | Opensource.com [20:07] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164609 [20:07] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [20:07] TR News drm/rockchip: Add VOP2 driver https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/next/linux-next.git/commit/?id=604be85547ce4d61b89292d2f9a78c721b778c16 [20:07] TR Bot kernel/git/next/linux-next.git - The linux-next integration testing tree [20:09] TR News 20 Best Linux Media Server Distros & Software for Your Home Theater PC Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164610 [20:09] TR Bot 20 Best Linux Media Server Distros & Software for Your Home Theater PC | Tux Machines [20:12] TR News The Two-Dimensional Political Compass is an Insult gemini://malinfreeborn.com/gen/political_dimensions.gmi [20:13] TR News E-mails Aren't Really Letters gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-05-08-e-mails-aren-t-really-letters.gmi [20:15] TR News Linux going in a bad direction because GAFAM insists on it https://linuxstoney.com/the-sixth-version-of-patches-for-the-linux-kernel-with-support-for-the-rust-language/ [20:15] TR Bot sixth version of patches for the Linux kernel with support for the Rust language - LinuxStoney [20:16] TR News PS4/Switch/Vita/Linux Release - pEMU 6.0 (NES/SNES/Sega/Arcade emulator suite) - Wololo.net https://wololo.net/2022/05/06/ps4-switch-vita-linux-release-pemu-6-0-nes-snes-sega-arcade-emulator-suite/ Source: wololo [20:16] TR Bot Release - pEMU 6.0 (NES/SNES/Sega/Arcade emulator suite) - Wololo.net [20:16] XRevan86 General mobilisation is considered to be unlikely at this point (but never ruled out), but there's also a chance for some kind of conditional mobilisation. [20:17] TR News The EPO is harming the European Union because its handlers try to ratify an illegal system under the guise of unity http://techrights.org/2022/05/08/unitary-patent-system-neo-colonialist-plot/ [20:17] TR Bot UPC: A Neo-colonialist Plot | Techrights [20:17] TR News EPO President Antnio Campinos has reached the "let me through!" or the "let me in!" moment (like Lukashenko 2 years ago) http://techrights.org/2022/05/08/epo-president-video/ [20:17] TR Bot [Meme] He is the EPOs President | Techrights [20:18] XRevan86 Another thing that can happen is an announcement regarding the fate of the currently occupied territories, like another quasi-republic, or an agglomeration of all the *PR's into one big PR, or direct annexation into Russia. [20:18] TR News The EPOs replace-courts-with-kangaroo-courts project is based on lies, disinformation (worse than misinformation), fabrication, and glorification of illegal actions, overt violations of constitutions, conventions being ignored, court-rigging, and even habitual perjury http://techrights.org/2022/05/08/team-upc-disinformation/ [20:18] TR Bot The Charade of Fake News and Lobbying (Based on Lies) by Team UPC | Techrights [20:18] *wallacer has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:32] bnchs wtf is pEMU [20:33] bnchs here's the bullshit about PlayStation, if you don't give the console an internet connection, and you play one of the games you licensed from their online store [20:33] bnchs it will suspend your game after 15 minutes if it can't vaildate the license [20:33] bnchs i mean the game* [20:34] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:34] bnchs and you have to pay for game licenses PER ACCOUNT [20:34] bnchs not the entire console anymore [20:41] activelow w3m and gpm mouse simply isn't implemented for no-X11 outside xterm [20:44] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@4ib67bpjevnsu.irc) has joined #techrights [20:44] psydroid2 "Welcome to the World of Warcraft" [20:44] psydroid2 war on end users [20:44] bnchs one thing i noticed about systemd and openrc [20:45] bnchs openrc has cleaner interface names [20:45] bnchs eth0 vs eno1 [20:45] bnchs wlan0 vs wlp5s0 [20:45] bnchs systemd INTENTIONALLY renames interfaces to these garbage [20:52] XRevan86 bnchs: This is on udev. [20:54] XRevan86 bnchs: And Gentoo is moving away from eudev, so the default will likely change as well. [20:54] XRevan86 bnchs: Oh wait, I just stumbled upon https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/tree/sys-fs/eudev/eudev-3.2.11-r2.ebuild#n55 [20:55] TR Bot eudev-3.2.11-r2.ebuild eudev sys-fs - repo/gentoo.git - Official Gentoo ebuild repository [20:55] XRevan86 bnchs: Are ye sure ye didn't just disable this on the OpenRC-based system? [20:58] psydroid2 device specific names make sense on some level, but it should be a choice the sysadmin makes [20:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.21 k/sec., IPFS upstream 81.96 average k/sec., average swarm size 552.18 [20:59] XRevan86 psydroid2: Seems like bnchs made this choice and then has forgotten :). ● May 08 [21:00] psydroid2 XRevan86, I think many (or all) systemd distributions enable this by default :) [21:01] XRevan86 psydroid2: Check the link, it says that eudev enables it by default as well. [21:01] activelow non-systemd systems almost always use a udev implementation too [21:02] activelow a linux system doesn't need any udev; it is a few lines of chmod/chown during system boot and all permissions match, including x11/libdrm/audio etc [21:02] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@3ybzzjfmjbj3g.irc) has joined #techrights [21:02] XRevan86 Yes. Unless bnchs somehow dodges udev altogether, it's more likely that he just got the warning from portage and axed it off immediately, and then forgot. [21:03] activelow problem is, if devices are re-attached dynamically... to act upon such events to re/set permissions, which i remain sceptical with udev [21:04] XRevan86 "a linux system doesn't need any udev" <- That's a bold statement. [21:04] activelow evdev sucks too, Xorg switched input device drivers to evdev ones... i rolled-back this change here... [21:05] activelow i don't trust evedv; udev/evdev, this is systemd even when openrc is the init process [21:06] activelow meaning, replacing systemd init with openrc does _NOT_ remove all the systemd clutter, in fact some of the worst parts remain even with openrc/eudev [21:07] activelow XRevan86: sure, with udev/evdev removed, this has some disadvantages [21:08] XRevan86 Just some. [21:08] activelow nonetheless, the typical argument X11/GTK required any of this is wrong, i got X11/GTK here, with all the clutter removed [21:08] activelow although, i did fully wipe GTK recently, too i will wipe X11, for other reasons then their poisoning with systemd-clutter [21:09] activelow for those who want to, suckless.org suggests some simple device node manager, which is good enough, and is less than 1% the lines of code produced elsewhere [21:30] bnchs XRevan86, i am not a gentooer [21:30] bnchs i am a artix [21:31] bnchs arch linux had this problem [21:31] bnchs before i switched to artix [21:31] bnchs also i was /AWAY [21:32] SomeH4x0r wb [21:33] bnchs also i didn't have a choice, and i didn't even change something remotely to the interface names [21:36] DaemonFC Ukraine plunged into war. Stock market in free fall. Business Insider be like: "I'm a Brit and the color of American macaroni and cheese upset me!" [21:36] DaemonFC schestowitz, ^ [21:41] DaemonFC "My husband is watching movies I already have on Blu Ray, but they are on some stupid Amazon stick where Kevin Hart is screaming about credit cards every few minutes. [21:41] DaemonFC :/ What have I done?" [21:59] DaemonFC I have some Blu Rays because they turn up cheap at the thrift stores. [21:59] DaemonFC Their pricing is really hit or miss. ● May 08 [22:00] DaemonFC Like you can get 7 DVDs for a dollar now. A dollar! One dollar! Gets you 7 DVDs. [22:00] DaemonFC I remember when these came out and they were selling players for $500 and movies for $35, per disc, in the 1990s! [22:01] DaemonFC They could get away with that easily back then because nobody had the established infrastructure to just dump the discs and share them on BitTorrent. [22:02] DaemonFC Mom asked me what I was doing and I said I finally got around to getting Frost/Nixon. [22:03] DaemonFC The Eleventh Doctor told Nixon "Say hi to David Frost for me.". [22:03] DaemonFC I was imitating Nixon. "I'm saying that when the president does it, it's not illegal! I am not a crook! I've earned everything I've got!". [22:04] DaemonFC MinceR, I was doing that with a pair of lobsters one day. [22:04] DaemonFC Tossing them back and forth (they were frozen) so their claws would swing around, before I threw them in the water. [22:04] DaemonFC "I am not a crook! I am not a crook!" [22:15] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:17] TR News Free software dev in France https://blog.jabberhead.tk/2022/05/08/europe-trip-journal-entry-6-laundry-day/ [22:17] TR Bot Europe Trip Journal Entry 6: Laundry Day vanitasvitae's blog [22:18] TR News On forms of apparent progress https://blogs.fsfe.org/pboddie/?p=2523 Source: fsfe [22:19] TR Bot On forms of apparent progress Paul Boddie's Free Software-related blog [22:19] TR News Kevin Fenzi: Onlykey DUO https://www.scrye.com/wordpress/nirik/2022/05/08/onlykey-duo/ [22:19] TR Bot Onlykey DUO Kevin's musings [22:23] TR News The Root Commander is a homemade MIDI controller ensures you never play the wrote note | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/05/08/this-homemade-midi-controller-ensures-you-never-play-the-wrote-note/ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking [22:23] TR Bot The Root Commander is a homemade MIDI controller ensures you never play the wrote note | Arduino Blog [22:28] TR News CrowPI2: Reviewing the Famous all-in-one STEM Solution Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164611 [22:28] TR Bot CrowPI2: Reviewing the Famous all-in-one STEM Solution | Tux Machines [22:28] TR News 4 Major Distros in the History of Linux That Shaped the Linux World Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164612 [22:28] TR Bot 4 Major Distros in the History of Linux That Shaped the Linux World | Tux Machines [22:30] TR News mdSilo is an outstanding open-source note-taking app for the active mind https://medevel.com/mdsilo-note/ "mdSilo is released under the GNU Affero General Public License v3.0." Source: medevel [22:30] TR Bot mdSilo is an outstanding open-source note-taking app for the active mind [22:35] TR News Conflating patents with "innovation" to help the EPO spread mindless propaganda, supportive of an agenda to grant fake patents in bulk https://eindhovennews.com/news/2022/04/eindhoven-continues-to-be-the-innovation-hub/ [22:35] TR Bot Eindhoven continues to be the innovation hub - Eindhoven News [22:36] TR News "On 22 April 2022, the Danish Eastern High Court handed down its decision in yet another dispute concerning applied art and the question of originality and infringement under copyright law." http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2022/05/guest-post-second-time-is-charm-danish.html seems generic to me... [22:36] TR Bot [Guest post] Second time is a charm: Danish design company wins plant box war - The IPKat [22:36] TR News "My personal music player on Linux is MPD + NCMPCPP but if you want a more contained solution then how about you try out musikcube which even has an android app to control it." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=NNyEfdLWHSU [22:37] TR Bot MusikCube: All In One Player, Library & Streaming - Invidious [22:45] TR News Linus Torvalds: Linux 5.18-rc6 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164613 [22:45] TR Bot Linus Torvalds: Linux 5.18-rc6 | Tux Machines [22:45] TR News Free Software: mdSilo, Greenwash, and Magda Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164614 [22:45] TR Bot Free Software: mdSilo, Greenwash, and Magda | Tux Machines [22:45] TR News Devices: ICP, Ardunino, and Canaan/RISC-V Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164615 [22:45] TR Bot Devices: ICP, Ardunino, and Canaan/RISC-V | Tux Machines [22:47] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/s-2 [22:47] TR Bot Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - S [22:51] TR News Vista 11 is a giant eXPeriment and its users are subjects https://dekisoft.com/amd-driver-crashes-on-windows-11/ [22:51] TR Bot AMD driver keeps crashing while playing games on Windows 11 - DekiSoft [22:52] TR News "A quick summary of it is that Jakob managed to implement Derek Sivers's method of staying in touch with hundreds of people[2], by which you categorize people into four levels of importance that dictate how often you should contact them. Sort of like MySpace's top friends feature but even more punishing." gemini://envs.net/~negatethis/response-to-greenfeld.gmi [22:54] TR News "But to be honest, the cool thing about Gemini has always been implementing stuff, not the content itself. I guess many people feel the same way." gemini://hannuhartikainen.fi/twinlog/2021-01-06_away.gemini [22:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.01 k/sec., IPFS upstream 6.50 average k/sec., average swarm size 403.83 [22:59] *matey (~matey@964c847ccybdw.irc) has joined #techrights ● May 08 [23:01] SomeH4x0r hi [23:01] matey hi [23:02] TR News "when I typed into google "weather s" it gave me the weather south of me" gemini://alex.flounder.online/journal.gmi while registering what was on your mind, which is a "side purpose" of Gulag [23:03] DaemonFC Wow. 10,000 people have seen my review of the Battery Asshole. [23:04] DaemonFC That's only been up for a few weeks. [23:05] matey thatll teach him [23:06] matey gnu+linux, meet battery+arsehole [23:06] bnchs lol "seen" [23:06] bnchs as if what's their definition of seen [23:07] DaemonFC "What's the matter, bitch? Why aren't you laughing?" [23:07] *Skywave has quit (connection closed) [23:07] DaemonFC "Because there's nothing funny about a dickless moron with a battery up his ass!" [23:07] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@4ebk9724jjdmq.irc) has joined #techrights [23:08] matey /me thinks the stores reputation might "diehard" [23:08] DaemonFC with a vengeance [23:10] matey yipee ki yyippee ki yay, motherfucker [23:10] matey my keyboards getting too old for this shit [23:13] DaemonFC Well, at least they solved for how to get 90 blocks in half an hour in New York City. [23:14] matey fair enough [23:15] DaemonFC They left a gold bar worth $100,000 in the back of a Yugo. [23:15] DaemonFC Another great moment. [23:16] matey /me wonders what the gdp of yugoslavia was that year [23:18] DaemonFC Well, the movie came out in 1995. [23:19] TR News Links 08/05/2022: A Look at CrowPI2 and Release of Linux 5.18 RC6 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/08/release-of-linux-5-18-rc6/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/08/release-of-linux-5-18-rc6/ [23:19] TR Bot Links 08/05/2022: A Look at CrowPI2 and Release of Linux 5.18 RC6 | Techrights [23:20] DaemonFC Hyperinflation was rampant between 1992-1994. [23:20] DaemonFC Probably about as much as a Yugo. [23:20] DaemonFC Which is where we'll be if Biden is in there much longer. [23:21] DaemonFC Countries tend to experience Hyperinflation right before one of three things happens. [23:21] DaemonFC A political revolution, a violent overthrow, or the country breaking up into several successor states. [23:22] matey so 100,000 would be about 5 times the gdp of yugoslavia around that time [23:22] matey a little less [23:23] matey and how far do you think the usa is from hyperinflation? [23:23] DaemonFC The BLS says it's 9.68% on an annual basis right now. [23:23] bnchs i found a old emacs script from 1988 [23:23] DaemonFC Of course, the government has every reason to lie. [23:24] DaemonFC If they lie and say it's lower, then benefit payments grow more slowly and taxes go up. [23:24] matey /me found an old command shell from the 1970s [23:24] matey "if" they lie [23:25] AdmFubar https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/06/disney-is-still-trying-to-avoid-paying-its-writers/ [23:25] TR Bot Is Still Trying To Avoid Paying Its Writers | Techdirt [23:25] bnchs lol [23:25] bnchs the same old disney [23:26] matey /me found a curry that makes a certain beer taste like donuts [23:26] matey ill be back in a week. [23:26] MinceR https://hugelolcdn.com/i/827089.jpg [23:26] bnchs what happened to the old adult swim classics [23:26] MinceR miraculin curry? [23:27] matey its got thai chili peppers <3 [23:27] matey the ones that are like more impressive peppers except not as impressive and much easier to find [23:27] matey but the beer is belgian style or something [23:27] matey and if you eat the curry and drink the beer, the beer tastes like donuts [23:28] matey i dont even know why, i refuse to question it [23:29] matey the last time i went to a krispy kreme it was in washington dc though [23:29] matey this is nearly as good [23:30] matey /me doesnt know why they call it that, roughly zero of their donuts are crispy [23:31] matey crispy donuts probably wouldnt be huge sellers, but i dont pretend to know what the market really wants [23:31] matey they all have smartphones, ergo they are crazy [23:32] matey if its a crispy donut you want, i recommend a stroopwaffel [23:33] matey which i always assume was the forces hitler sent in to take over bakeries, but whatever [23:33] matey "mein fuhrer, the bakeries are all plotting against us" "send in the stroopwaffel" [23:33] TR News Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164616 [23:33] TR Bot Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [23:33] matey "ja wohl" [23:33] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164617 [23:33] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [23:34] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164618 [23:34] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [23:34] DaemonFC No no no. [23:34] DaemonFC It's "Mein Fuhrer, Steiner.....". [23:34] DaemonFC "The bakeries are plotting against us...." [23:34] matey the director loves the hitler reacts videos [23:34] DaemonFC They explain nervously how bad the situation is. [23:34] matey of the original [23:34] DaemonFC Hitler goes crazy. [23:34] matey hehehe [23:35] DaemonFC Demands the stroopwafel. [23:35] matey :D [23:35] DaemonFC Blames the SS that they don't have any. [23:35] DaemonFC Shoots himself in the head. [23:35] matey "mein fuhrer... steiner... he ate the last stroopwaffel" [23:35] DaemonFC "FUCK!!!!!" [23:36] matey "IVE BEEN CRAVING STROOPWAFFELS ALL WEEK!" [23:36] matey *woman cries* "dont worry, i know a place we can buy more of them" [23:37] matey /me wonders if theyll still make new hitler reacts videos 10 years from now [23:37] DaemonFC Well, yeah, WEST Germany will have a ton of them due to the Capitalist demand economy while the East Germans will be blowing up their coffee machines wiht 49% coffee packets. [23:37] matey thank churchhill, it was all his idea [23:38] matey the way they split things up after the war [23:38] matey he was a dick [23:39] matey of course, to be fair [23:39] DaemonFC Then at the end of the day, when the stroopwafel demand was not as high as it averaged, they'll mark down the day old stroopwafels by half to bring the market demand to stroopwafel equilibrium, and the East Germans will get shot in the back by their own soldiers trying to get at them [23:39] matey they didnt actually HAVE TO create the fucking stasi [23:39] matey but it must have seemed like a good idea at the time [23:39] DaemonFC And that's where Ronald Reagan shouts "Mr. Gorbachev, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL!". [23:39] matey Then at the end of the day, when the stroopwafel demand was not as high as it averaged, they'll mark down the day old stroopwafels by half to bring the market demand <- like they dont do that now [23:40] DaemonFC "REAGAN SMASH! REAGAN SMAAAAAAASH!" [23:40] matey seriously, i can walk about two blocks and get you a stroopwaffel thats nearly old enough to vote [23:41] DaemonFC Capitalism produces more than it anticipates the market needing, because as long as it can reduce costs to clear out a little excess inventory, they're doing better than if they aim low and don't have enough to sell. [23:41] DaemonFC Communism falls apart because central planning figures that they can dictate what demand will be and what wages are, and then you have black markets. [23:41] matey someone needs to tell them theyre not twinkies, shelf life isnt the same thing as half life [23:42] matey im pretty sure the communists anticipated black markets [23:42] DaemonFC They didn't mind them, at least. [23:42] matey well the bureaucracy certainly didnt [23:42] DaemonFC Officially, they didn't tolerate them, but they persisted in part because the politicians themselves ended up shopping there in the end. [23:42] matey after all, it was the same thing they were doing [23:43] matey Officially, they didn't tolerate them <- a bit like americas reaction to hitler [23:43] DaemonFC And if there's a universal truth about politicians, they always manage to end up rich, even in Communist countries, somehow. [23:43] DaemonFC :) [23:43] DaemonFC And it's always at the direct expense of the public, but in a "worker's state" you'd expect something more modest. [23:44] DaemonFC And yet that's not what happens. [23:44] activelow dvtm is awesome, combined with nnn for example, this fully replaces midnight commander, is modular etc... [23:44] matey even in Communist countries, somehow. <- as long as rich is a relative thing, politicians taking advantage of their position isnt harder in a communist country as long as the leader is insane [23:44] activelow dvtm can be bundles into any desired application, such as irc session handling for ii etc. [23:44] activelow bundled [23:44] matey And it's always at the direct expense of the public <- corruption generally is [23:44] DaemonFC Leaders are usually insane. [23:45] matey its not a requirement, but it certainly happens a lot [23:45] DaemonFC Because the most insant people are the ones who respond to insane politicians. [23:45] activelow if i didn't ditch glib, tmux, irssi and various other then i had not bothered with dvtm and not discovered the power of this [23:45] DaemonFC Until things spiral so far out of control that more moderate people can't take it anymore, and they vote based on who sounds more reasonable. [23:45] DaemonFC So it tends to go crazy, more normal, crazy, more normal, and so on. [23:45] matey which is too easy to fake in a crisis [23:46] matey just dont give a damn, and say whatever people obviously want to hear [23:46] matey any sociopath can do it [23:46] matey vote for marisol [23:47] matey "an airpod on every table" [23:47] DaemonFC I'm considering wearing a VOTE SAXON button to the polls this year. [23:47] DaemonFC And seeing if anyone there even realizes what that is or thinks I'm politicking. [23:49] schestowitz https://diaspora.psyco.fr/posts/8529551#e6322630ac8f013a5e8628a1592b385a [23:49] schestowitz "Snap is a PITA. It is better changing distro (Debian, Trisquel, Fedora, Opensuse, Mageia)." [23:49] TR Bot Ubuntu Cinnamon 22.04 -- A great 22.04 release! http://www.tuxmachi... [23:54] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=gssXrqIH2aY [23:54] TR Bot Kelloggs SCP83 1983 Snap Crackle Pop - Invidious [23:57] matey i can see why jesus didnt bother coming back [23:57] matey just this recording is reason enough to stay home