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| schestowitz | MinceR: this cartoon is just... weird https://ircz.de/p/19081755 | Jan 09 00:22 |
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| schestowitz | " | Jan 09 01:27 |
| schestowitz | #Microsoft's #bribes fest: from #Hungary to #SaudiArabia to #Thailand to #Turkey results in $25M fine to resolve widespread #FCPA violations | Jan 09 01:27 |
| schestowitz | cc/ | Jan 09 01:27 |
| schestowitz | @schestowitz | Jan 09 01:27 |
| schestowitz | https://fcpablog.com/2019/07/22/microsoft-pays-25-million-to-resolve-widespread-fcpa-violati/ | Jan 09 01:27 |
| schestowitz | " | Jan 09 01:27 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/1214658060431642629 | Jan 09 01:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fcpablog.com | Microsoft pays $25 million to resolve widespread FCPA violations | The FCPA Blog | Jan 09 01:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: #Microsoft's #bribes fest: from #Hungary to #SaudiArabia to #Thailand to #Turkey results in $25M fine to resolve wi… https://t.co/73AswgK28X | Jan 09 01:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: #Microsoft's #bribes fest: from #Hungary to #SaudiArabia to #Thailand to #Turkey results in $25M fine to resolve wi… https://t.co/73AswgK28X | Jan 09 01:27 | |
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| schestowitz | nobody arrested | Jan 09 01:42 |
| schestowitz | settle by sending them to 10 years in prison or somehting... | Jan 09 01:42 |
| schestowitz | but no... | Jan 09 01:42 |
| schestowitz | too many lobbyists | Jan 09 01:42 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | $25 million fine. Eh... | Jan 09 01:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The funny part is Microsoft violates tons of software troll patents. | Jan 09 01:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They ended up paying like $100 million or something to a patent troll over "product activation". | Jan 09 01:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | As long as they can just pass the costs of their bad behavior onto people who really didn't ask for Windows, it was just there.... | Jan 09 01:53 |
| schestowitz | yup | Jan 09 01:54 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | The EU fines were just cost of doing business. | Jan 09 01:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The crooked fucks over there are just like any other government. | Jan 09 01:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They whacked them and it was really just a tax. | Jan 09 01:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Government extortion. | Jan 09 01:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Hey, pay us money or else. | Jan 09 01:59 |
| schestowitz | over crimes | Jan 09 01:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's time to play mugging or IRS bill. | Jan 09 01:59 |
| schestowitz | but we need arrests | Jan 09 01:59 |
| schestowitz | something more severe | Jan 09 01:59 |
| schestowitz | not a CORPORATE fine | Jan 09 01:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Theoretically, the patent troll could have targeted anyone who used a version of Windows with the infringing component. | Jan 09 02:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But there's no money to be had there and attacking millions of people randomly didn't turn out well when the RIAA did it. | Jan 09 02:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I didn't really know or care about Free Software at the time Windows XP rolled out with Product Activation, but I did understand THAT. | Jan 09 02:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And I was mad as hell over it. | Jan 09 02:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, it's an attempt to take away rights the user normally has under the law. | Jan 09 02:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If a computer running Windows 2000 broke down, and you wanted to, copyright law says "Just put Windows 2000 on your new computer. Just only use one copy at a time.". | Jan 09 02:02 |
| schestowitz | but this is another issue | Jan 09 02:03 |
| schestowitz | let's focus on the crimes above | Jan 09 02:03 |
| schestowitz | I will do a post about it soon | Jan 09 02:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I never really liked Microsoft after that. | Jan 09 02:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Between that and their shit Internet Explorer browser that made Windows 98 unreliable. | Jan 09 02:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I had to use third party tools to carve it out. | Jan 09 02:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Eventually it just got so bad with Vista I, ugh. | Jan 09 02:04 |
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| MinceR | https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/01/05/7dc07674836334b6.jpg | Jan 09 04:43 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16938218 | Jan 09 04:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: I'm sure this was asked before, but unsure what to search or how to phrase it: Say you have 10 windows (terminal, browser, text editor....) open in #gnu #linux and you want to paste the same text into all of them in one go. Is there a tool for this? | Jan 09 04:55 | |
| schestowitz | does anyone have an idea? | Jan 09 04:55 |
| schestowitz | I can find nothing | Jan 09 04:55 |
| schestowitz | I need this for terminals | Jan 09 04:56 |
| schestowitz | saving thousands of clicks | Jan 09 04:56 |
| MinceR | there are terminal emulators that can send the same thing to multiple panes/tabs/windows/whatever | Jan 09 05:03 |
| MinceR | maybe even tmux can do it | Jan 09 05:03 |
| schestowitz | yes, also kssh | Jan 09 05:03 |
| schestowitz | but... | Jan 09 05:03 |
| MinceR | at the very least, in tmux you can script sending stuff as input and switching buffers | Jan 09 05:04 |
| schestowitz | those are sort of native to themselves | Jan 09 05:04 |
| schestowitz | not holistic for the whole desktop session | Jan 09 05:04 |
| schestowitz | here's another way to ask this | Jan 09 05:04 |
| MinceR | since nvim is also a terminal multiplexer, it can probably do this | Jan 09 05:04 |
| schestowitz | do we have command lines tools that work on a browser, like issue command <paste x in browser element>? | Jan 09 05:04 |
| schestowitz | because I could at least script something from bash | Jan 09 05:05 |
| MinceR | you might be able to do it with xdotool to arbitrary X windows | Jan 09 05:05 |
| schestowitz | social control media is too fragmented | Jan 09 05:05 |
| schestowitz | I'm tired of clicking so many things | Jan 09 05:05 |
| MinceR | for browser elements, not sure. maybe selenium? | Jan 09 05:05 |
| schestowitz | oh, I see... xbottool I suppose deals with screen coords | Jan 09 05:06 |
| MinceR | headless browsers like phantomjs might help | Jan 09 05:07 |
| schestowitz | depends if the sites support these | Jan 09 05:07 |
| schestowitz | they're js bloat | Jan 09 05:07 |
| MinceR | these might allow you to run your own js code to manipulate the sites | Jan 09 05:07 |
| schestowitz | I support I could position the browser and script the pattern of clicks | Jan 09 05:07 |
| schestowitz | though some pages would 'move' amid posting | Jan 09 05:08 |
| MinceR | there's also xsendkey and sendkeys, but i don't know how they differ from xdotool | Jan 09 05:08 |
| schestowitz | https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/87831/how-to-send-keystrokes-f5-from-terminal-to-a-gui-program | Jan 09 05:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-unix.stackexchange.com | process - How to send keystrokes (F5) from terminal to a GUI program? - Unix & Linux Stack Exchange | Jan 09 05:09 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.semicomplete.com/projects/xdotool/ | Jan 09 05:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xdotool - fake keyboard/mouse input, window management, and more - semicomplete | Jan 09 05:10 | |
| schestowitz | installed now.. | Jan 09 05:11 |
| schestowitz | getting closer now :-0 | Jan 09 05:15 |
| schestowitz | xdotool search "Join*" windowactivate --sync key --clearmodifiers ctrl+l | Jan 09 05:17 |
| schestowitz | this one works but I want to grab another element, in page.. | Jan 09 05:17 |
| schestowitz | now I can paste from CLI, but only after pressing on page element manually | Jan 09 05:19 |
| schestowitz | xdotool search "pleroma*" windowactivate --sync key --clearmodifiers ctrl+v | Jan 09 05:20 |
| schestowitz | now I need the "enter" trigger and box selection | Jan 09 05:21 |
| schestowitz | https://www.mankier.com/1/xdotool# | Jan 09 05:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mankier.com | xdotool - command-line X11 automation tool - man page | Jan 09 05:35 | |
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| schestowitz | just sorted out the crossposting in social control media, keeping clicking at a mimimum | Jan 09 06:10 |
| schestowitz | it's about 50 lines long | Jan 09 06:11 |
| schestowitz | but it works! | Jan 09 06:11 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16938696 | Jan 09 07:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ### Microsoft is _More_ than some simple Corporation - Microsoft is a Criminal Corporation http://techrights.org/2020/01/08/microsoft-criminality/ | Jan 09 07:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Microsoft Continues to Get Away With Serious Crimes Very Cheaply | Techrights | Jan 09 07:11 | |
| oiaohm | Hmm I just look up Australia worse bushfire season even numbers. 95 million ha/234 million acres that 1974-75 They current a little over 12 million acres by Australian standards is not that bad. Even the death tool is not too far out. | Jan 09 07:38 |
| oiaohm | Really the problem is that its a lot of individual fires spread out close to where humans have collected. | Jan 09 07:40 |
| oiaohm | The number of destroyed human houses with this 12 million acres is 100 times more already confirmed than the 234 million acres burned in 1974-75. | Jan 09 07:41 |
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| psydroid | the venerable filesystem is becoming even faster | Jan 09 13:12 |
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| r_schestowitz | nut oracle.. | Jan 09 13:18 |
| r_schestowitz | but oracle... | Jan 09 13:19 |
| r_schestowitz | fb also | Jan 09 13:19 |
| oiaohm | psydroid: please note that is for database workloads. Direct I/O stuff there was a lof of things suspected in way direct I/O was done to be total crap. | Jan 09 13:20 |
| oiaohm | Linux kernel is on to is 4 rewrite on how Direct I/O works in the kernel. | Jan 09 13:20 |
| oiaohm | Its not just Ext4 getting faster with direct I/O in most cases it xfs and a few others file systems as well boosting when you look closer. | Jan 09 13:21 |
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| psydroid | oiaohm, I've noticed that performance on SD cards has also become a lot better since 3.10 on ext4, although I haven't really tried xfs and other filesystems yet as I was more concerned with getting off the vendor kernel | Jan 09 13:51 |
| psydroid | it brought distupgrade time down from 10 hours to 1-2 hours | Jan 09 13:51 |
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| scientes | god damn, why did Benjamin Franklin, who didn't really discover anything, have to made electricity so annoying by getting positive and negative backwards! | Jan 09 14:37 |
| scientes | and most of electrical engineering is all backwards too because of this | Jan 09 14:42 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.worldipreview.com/news/skyroam-attacks-ucloudlink-over-trade-secret-theft-19091 | Jan 09 15:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.worldipreview.com | Skyroam attacks uCloudlink over trade secret theft | Jan 09 15:38 | |
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| smnthermes | > I have written: | Jan 09 16:30 |
| smnthermes | > https://www.ghacks.net/2020/01/06/please-mozilla-dont-touch-the-user-js-functionality-in-firefox/ | Jan 09 16:30 |
| smnthermes | Did anyone receive that message I sent yesterday? I'm asking this because I'm using an XMPP->IRC bridge | Jan 09 16:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ghacks.net | Please Mozilla, don't touch the user.js functionality in Firefox - gHacks Tech News | Jan 09 16:30 | |
| XRevan86 | smnthermes: I'm also using an XMPP → IRC bridge (biboumi), I haven't seen such a post. | Jan 09 16:30 |
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| scientes | smnthermes, wut | Jan 09 16:36 |
| scientes | According to telemetry that Mozilla gathered, about 3% of Firefox installations that report telemetry use user.js files. | Jan 09 16:37 |
| scientes | 3% seems WAY too high | Jan 09 16:37 |
| XRevan86 | especially out of those that still have "telemetry" | Jan 09 16:38 |
| scientes | XRevan86, most have telemetry | Jan 09 16:38 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: With user.js? | Jan 09 16:38 |
| XRevan86 | isn't that the whole point? :) | Jan 09 16:38 |
| rianne__ | https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-51032145 - hold your farts camels. | Jan 09 16:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Australia to cull thousands of camels - BBC News | Jan 09 16:40 | |
| MinceR | https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/01/05/3b36d5e6e2ae4980.jpg | Jan 09 16:40 |
| MinceR | culling humans would be more effective | Jan 09 16:41 |
| MinceR | "hey grim reaper, lend me your sickle / the world needs some culling, blood needs to trickle!" | Jan 09 16:41 |
| XRevan86 | "reëlection" – like "coöperation"? I'm so going to mispronounce those. | Jan 09 16:41 |
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| MinceR | yeah | Jan 09 16:44 |
| oiaohm | rianne__: https://phys.org/news/2014-04-camels-emit-methane-cows-sheep.html Really that is one feature of camels they fart a lot less than other options. | Jan 09 16:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-phys.org | Camels emit less methane than cows or sheep | Jan 09 16:46 | |
| rianne__ | oiaohm: not just camel farts are the problem here. They claim that they also consumed lots of water and that they compete with humans. | Jan 09 16:49 |
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| oiaohm | rianne__: this is what happens when someone who does not know the topic comments. | Jan 09 16:51 |
| oiaohm | rianne__: https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2017-10-12/running-cattle-in-the-apy-lands/9038334 Apy is large cattle holding the native aboriginals have. | Jan 09 16:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.abc.net.au | Outback cattle station couple rise to the challenge in South Australia's APY lands - ABC Rural - ABC News | Jan 09 16:51 | |
| oiaohm | Camels that are better for the land are stuffing up cattle farms. | Jan 09 16:52 |
| oiaohm | and for the envornment long term as well. | Jan 09 16:52 |
| oiaohm | How do you convince people to want camel meat instead of beef. | Jan 09 16:52 |
| MinceR | advertising | Jan 09 16:52 |
| MinceR | make it "hip" and "cool" | Jan 09 16:53 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/food/eat/strange-bargain-burger-discovery-sparks-heated-debate/news-story/516ca4c89a34ed91eb27c4b97b57141f Also trying dirt cheap. | Jan 09 16:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.news.com.au | Camel meat burger patties: Facebook debates unusual Coles meat | Jan 09 16:54 | |
| MinceR | that by itself is unlikely to work unless you're willing to keep it dirt cheap indefinitely | Jan 09 16:55 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: we have a oversupply of camels that is likely going to be that way for a few decades. | Jan 09 16:55 |
| r_schestowitz | this is what human kind boils down to then? | Jan 09 16:55 |
| r_schestowitz | 20 billion humans eating insects? | Jan 09 16:56 |
| MinceR | with advertising and cult management, anything could be sold at extremely high prices even if it's crap | Jan 09 16:56 |
| MinceR | well, we could choose between tons of humans living like ascetics (and probably still exhausting resources) or a few humans living a good and sustainable life | Jan 09 16:56 |
| MinceR | but they know that contraception and abortion are both "evil" | Jan 09 16:57 |
| MinceR | because they have to outbreed the competing cults | Jan 09 16:57 |
| MinceR | so it's hell on earth for everyone instead | Jan 09 16:57 |
| oiaohm | rianne__: cattle need more water than camels as well. By every metric Australia should be farming way more Camels than cattle or sheep. | Jan 09 17:00 |
| MinceR | except for beef tasting better | Jan 09 17:00 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: have you eaten camel. | Jan 09 17:00 |
| MinceR | no | Jan 09 17:01 |
| MinceR | one article says it's between beef and lamb | Jan 09 17:01 |
| MinceR | and i know from experience that beef is better than lamb | Jan 09 17:01 |
| oiaohm | I grew up on a cattle property. I have eat lots of beef of the different grade and I have had camel. | Jan 09 17:03 |
| oiaohm | Camel is a low fat meat. | Jan 09 17:03 |
| oiaohm | Its like your grass feed beef. | Jan 09 17:03 |
| MinceR | if we didn't insist on having humans breed like rabbits, we'd be more free to eat whatever we feel like eating | Jan 09 17:03 |
| oiaohm | So its in the beef spectrum. | Jan 09 17:04 |
| rianne__ | oiaohm: sorry I won't advertise or ask people to eat meat.. neither camel or cow. | Jan 09 17:04 |
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| danielp3344 | mmmmmmm cow | Jan 09 17:04 |
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| oiaohm | rianne__: I am by genetics unable to be a pure vegan. I am in fun location where I get something like scurvy when I don't have access to red meats. So percentage of human population like it or not are generically carnivores . | Jan 09 17:08 |
| rianne__ | I agree, but we could have at least minimized the consumption. | Jan 09 17:10 |
| oiaohm | I would prefer to have access to the least damaging optins. | Jan 09 17:12 |
| oiaohm | Of course food production is always somewhat environmental damaging. | Jan 09 17:12 |
| MinceR | minimizing the population would minimize the consumption without having to live like ascetics | Jan 09 17:12 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: its not just the human populations either that need control. | Jan 09 17:14 |
| oiaohm | Like the feral pigs that have been introducted by humans need to be killed off. | Jan 09 17:14 |
| oiaohm | because they don't really suite the land. | Jan 09 17:14 |
| MinceR | yeah | Jan 09 17:15 |
| MinceR | but humans are generally less averse to that | Jan 09 17:15 |
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| MinceR | https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/01/05/8f136baa97ac5e9a.mp4 | Jan 09 17:43 |
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| XRevan86 | https://github.com/ndilieto/uacme | Jan 09 17:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - ndilieto/uacme: ACMEv2 client written in plain C code with minimal dependencies | Jan 09 17:56 | |
| MinceR | https://i.redd.it/lfynwrcxlo941.jpg | Jan 09 17:59 |
| superkuh | Self sign. | Jan 09 17:59 |
| superkuh | Centralization is bad, even with ssl cert authorities. | Jan 09 18:00 |
| superkuh | Just because Lets Encrypt is a benign dictator doesn't make it good. | Jan 09 18:00 |
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| MinceR | indeed | Jan 09 18:02 |
| MinceR | PKI is highly vulnerable anyway | Jan 09 18:02 |
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| XRevan86 | superkuh: It's pretty much a "better than the alternative" situation. | Jan 09 18:15 |
| XRevan86 | ACME is not Let's Encrypt specific though, so this isn't necessarily just Let's Encrypt. But I don't know of any other certificate issuer that uses it. | Jan 09 18:17 |
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| superkuh | Lets Encrypt is good but the centralization and dependence it's building will be co-opted eventually. | Jan 09 18:18 |
| scientes | superkuh, letsencrypt is as good as it gets | Jan 09 18:19 |
| scientes | for PKI | Jan 09 18:19 |
| scientes | you need pinning to do better | Jan 09 18:19 |
| scientes | and something like EFF Observer (there was an earlier project with a Firefox extension, but I forget the name) | Jan 09 18:19 |
| scientes | called perspectives (but I forget the university) long dead | Jan 09 18:20 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/647230.jpg | Jan 09 18:23 |
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| superkuh | It is the best. But being the only makes it bad. | Jan 09 18:28 |
| superkuh | Also, 90 days? Fuck that. | Jan 09 18:28 |
| superkuh | Requiring people to run an entire extra set of software just to handle that stupidity... | Jan 09 18:28 |
| r_schestowitz | yeah,, too short | Jan 09 18:28 |
| r_schestowitz | side story, new story | Jan 09 18:28 |
| r_schestowitz | there's this activism group | Jan 09 18:28 |
| r_schestowitz | they have a site | Jan 09 18:28 |
| r_schestowitz | it has long worked | Jan 09 18:29 |
| r_schestowitz | rallied the masses | Jan 09 18:29 |
| r_schestowitz | then their ssl cert ex pired | Jan 09 18:29 |
| r_schestowitz | and they don't know how to sort it out | Jan 09 18:29 |
| r_schestowitz | so now they try to put pennies together for a support contract with us | Jan 09 18:29 |
| r_schestowitz | this is the kind of nuisance you get... all that because they added ;security' | Jan 09 18:29 |
| r_schestowitz | (which I doubt accomplishes what they wanted anyway) | Jan 09 18:30 |
| r_schestowitz | lots of sites nowadays have expired ssl certs | Jan 09 18:30 |
| r_schestowitz | what happens when linux foundation goes under? | Jan 09 18:30 |
| r_schestowitz | no more free m certifs | Jan 09 18:30 |
| r_schestowitz | from L.E. | Jan 09 18:30 |
| r_schestowitz | and then they might be forced to pay as well as do lots of maintenance, as all the urls to the site now demand it | Jan 09 18:31 |
| XRevan86 | superkuh: Meh, automation has its benefits. And that extra software can vary. | Jan 09 18:32 |
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| superkuh | I know self signing my own is dead simple and requires no extra software running, or to maintain, or external network dependencies. | Jan 09 18:33 |
| superkuh | Plus I don't do commerce so I don't care at all if ignorant users get scared off. That's just a filter for non-ignorant people. | Jan 09 18:33 |
| XRevan86 | superkuh: Or no trust from any software out there starting with wget and ending with Firefox | Jan 09 18:34 |
| XRevan86 | r_schestowitz: Does LE blacklist their domains? I don't think they're known for that. | Jan 09 18:35 |
| XRevan86 | r_schestowitz: Or do they just… don't wanna? | Jan 09 18:35 |
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| r_schestowitz | XRevan86: it's another party that can screw you, other than the registrar | Jan 09 18:40 |
| r_schestowitz | they control access based on some lousy bunch of bytes | Jan 09 18:40 |
| superkuh | That's also why I love tor. You actually own your domain. | Jan 09 18:40 |
| r_schestowitz | just to say, "yes, it's you, oh, here's the cert" | Jan 09 18:40 |
| XRevan86 | r_schestowitz: Not saying otherwise. You still need a cert %). | Jan 09 18:41 |
| r_schestowitz | yes, planning to | Jan 09 18:41 |
| r_schestowitz | we want to move the sites to one host | Jan 09 18:42 |
| r_schestowitz | instead of two vms | Jan 09 18:42 |
| r_schestowitz | I think kaniini has been very busy lately | Jan 09 18:42 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | > Lets Encrypt is good but the centralization and dependence it's building will be co-opted eventually. | Jan 09 21:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's working to get everyone using encryption so browsers can eventually refuse to load anything else. | Jan 09 21:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's going along with Mozilla and Google sweeping ftp under the rug. | Jan 09 21:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Netflix isn't using it so it must not be important. | Jan 09 21:22 |
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| MinceR | :> | Jan 09 21:24 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1574475 | Jan 09 21:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.mozilla.org | 1574475 - Remove FTP support | Jan 09 21:26 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | The idea of removing ancient ftp implementations isn't a bad one. | Jan 09 21:26 |
| MinceR | well, to be fair, if they removed everything from failfox, it wouldn't suck so much | Jan 09 21:26 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/647722.jpg | Jan 09 21:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's basically Firefox or Chrome at this point. | Jan 09 21:30 |
| MinceR | and they both suck | Jan 09 21:31 |
| MinceR | crashium is over its period of temporary relative stability as well | Jan 09 21:31 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.digitaltrends.com/news/the-us-government-says-you-need-to-update-firefox-right-now-zero-day-vulnerability/ | Jan 09 21:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitaltrends.com | NO TITLE | Jan 09 21:53 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2020/01/firefox-gets-patch-for-critical-zeroday-thats-being-actively-exploited/ | Jan 09 21:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Firefox gets patch for critical 0-day that’s being actively exploited | Ars Technica | Jan 09 21:54 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | "The patching of CVE-2019-17026 comes seven months after Mozilla patched a pair of potent zero-days that attackers exploited in an attempt to install an undetected backdoor on Macs used by cryptocurrency exchange Coinbase." | Jan 09 21:54 |
| danielp3344 | <MinceR "https://hugelolcdn.com/i/647722."> yes lol | Jan 09 21:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://hugelolcdn.com/i/647722 ) | Jan 09 21:54 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Macs have virus protection built in." Apple commercial | Jan 09 21:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://macpaw.com/how-to/remove-virus-from-mac | Jan 09 21:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-macpaw.com | How to remove a virus from Mac | Jan 09 21:56 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Your Mac starts behaving erratically and doing things you don’t expect; | Jan 09 21:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Your Mac starts running very slowly as if something is hogging the processor;" | Jan 09 21:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think that's just what they do. | Jan 09 21:56 |
| danielp3344 | rofl | Jan 09 21:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "You start seeing adverts on your desktop; | Jan 09 21:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You find software or applications you didn’t install." | Jan 09 21:57 |
| danielp3344 | 'then you might have a mac' | Jan 09 21:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Windows 10 | Jan 09 21:57 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: Does it remove macOS? | Jan 09 21:57 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/647068.jpg | Jan 09 22:02 |
| XRevan86 | Can only men be called up into the army in the US? | Jan 09 22:06 |
| danielp3344 | XRevan86: I'm not sure if we ever settled that lol | Jan 09 22:17 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | > Can only men be called up into the army in the US? | Jan 09 22:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yes, the Selective Service system only requires men to register. | Jan 09 22:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But a draft would have to be passed by Congress and signed by the President anyway, so it's pretty likely the law would be changed while they were at it. | Jan 09 22:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I broke the law there. | Jan 09 22:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I registed when I was 18 so I could get federal funded job training. | Jan 09 22:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then I never updated my address with them again. | Jan 09 22:48 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Selective Service took my address update. | Jan 09 23:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They said they'd be mailing me a new draft card within 30 days. I'm 35, which is 9 years too old to conscript according to current law. | Jan 09 23:06 |
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| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/647114.png | Jan 09 23:12 |
| MinceR | https://youtu.be/bKH5nGLgi08 | Jan 09 23:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-36C3 - Uncover, Understand, Own - Regaining Control Over Your AMD CPU - YouTube | Jan 09 23:30 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: "now that's just depressing", no? | Jan 09 23:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | XRevan86: There are only two times when it's appropriate for a man to cry. | Jan 09 23:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | At funerals and when looking at the Grand Canyon. | Jan 09 23:42 |
| MinceR | lol | Jan 09 23:45 |
| scientes | XRevan86, that's what i was going to say | Jan 09 23:47 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: it's soda pressing | Jan 09 23:49 |
| danielp3344 | :> | Jan 09 23:49 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19081738 | Jan 09 23:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Jan 09 23:51 | |
| danielp3344 | MinceR: nice | Jan 09 23:52 |
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