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schestowitzAriadne: viera is offlineOct 09 02:20
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schestowitzAriadne: thanks!Oct 09 02:28
AriadnenpOct 09 02:32
smnthermeshttps://www.fredericjacobs.com/blog/2016/02/02/stallmanism/Oct 09 02:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fredericjacobs.com | Bumping into Stallman, againOct 09 02:32
smnthermesOhOct 09 02:33
scientessmnthermes, yeah, that is basically what I just said earlierOct 09 02:35
scientesthere are two alternatives: "if you have a problem, it is your problem", and "if you have a problem, you are the problem"Oct 09 02:36
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schestowitzinteresting sayingOct 09 02:48
XRevan86smnthermes: Freedom to choose words, eh? The innocent 2016…Oct 09 02:52
Ariadnethe irony being that the "open source" crowd abuses AGPL and other crap like commons clause :)Oct 09 02:53
XRevan86Ariadne: What's the way to abuse AGPL? Start demanding config.php?Oct 09 02:55
AriadneAGPL for some, $$$ for amazonOct 09 02:55
XRevan86ah, double licensingOct 09 02:55
Ariadnebasically using AGPL in a way that vendors would consider uncouthOct 09 02:56
Ariadneto extort money out of vendorsOct 09 02:56
XRevan86"commons clause" – did that actually take off? I haven't seen "fair licences"and this kind of stuff anywhere apart from fruitless discussionsOct 09 02:58
XRevan86Ah, it's the one Redis uses, I confused it with another issueOct 09 02:58
XRevan86and actually replaced with an even more restrictive EULAOct 09 03:00
XRevan86> RSAL is a software license created by Redis Labs for certain Redis Modules running on top of open source Redis. RSAL grants equivalent rights to permissive open source licenses for the vast majority of users. With RSAL, developers can use the software, modify the source code, integrate it with an application, and use, distribute or sell the application. The only restriction is that the application cOct 09 03:00
XRevan86annot be a database, a caching engine, a stream processing engine, a search engine, an indexing engine or an ML/DL/AI serving engine.Oct 09 03:00
XRevan86Ariadne: Sorry for the confusion, I'm having a sleepless night.Oct 09 03:02
XRevan86I'm on a streak.Oct 09 03:02
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 14 Best Free and Open Source Orthodox Linux File Managers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143010 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4c096486-741e-4a77-a917-25e8baaad734]Oct 09 03:07
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XRevan86Ariadne: Have you heard of micropub?Oct 09 03:11
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Fund Your App to Vote for the Future http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/142994#comment-26650 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4aa16bdc-44d2-4910-8e59-f117699a0915]Oct 09 03:13
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schestowitz[03:02] <XRevan86> Ariadne: Sorry for the confusion, I'm having a sleepless night.Oct 09 03:19
schestowitzI overslept 2 hours :/Oct 09 03:19
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: UbuntuDDE 20.10 Remix Beta Run Through http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/142769#comment-26651 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d6a2a30c-8397-46d8-b428-e1ea6dc4c14a]Oct 09 03:31
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liberty_boxhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ4pTRtFpx4Oct 09 09:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Newborn Elephant first steps July 2007 - YouTubeOct 09 09:16
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MinceRhttp://www.dorktower.com/2019/08/20/smoothie-operator-dork-tower-20-08-19/Oct 09 10:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dorktower.com | Smoothie Operator – DORK TOWER 20.08.19 – Dork TowerOct 09 10:59
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ender2070helloOct 09 12:10
ender2070conspiracy theories are dark ages christian propaganda, they've been rehashed over and over throughout timeOct 09 12:11
ender2070basically, any progressive group that undermines their religion becomes part of a global conspiracyOct 09 12:11
ender2070freemasons aren't evil, they're just progressivesOct 09 12:11
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MinceRfreemasons are a monotheistic cultOct 09 12:12
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MinceRhttp://www.dorktower.com/files/2019/11/DorkTower1624a.jpgOct 09 12:36
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MinceR(cat) (audio:important) https://i.imgur.com/OV4bdbQ.mp4Oct 09 12:56
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MinceR(audio:important) https://i.imgur.com/lPHkgud.mp4Oct 09 14:41
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schestowitzAriadne: viera did not recover from the netsplit in freenodeOct 09 15:51
scientesMinceR, hold my beerOct 09 16:22
MinceR:)Oct 09 16:28
DaemonFC[m]I called that apartment back. I noticed that they pulled our credit already on Tuesday. Management will be back this afternoon. So hopefully they can give me some idea of if we're approved or a potential move in date.Oct 09 16:50
schestowitzRichard Stallman wrote on 09/10/2020 04:27:Oct 09 16:51
schestowitz>   > CoC isn't a new concept. The term itself is a little newer. GNU usedOct 09 16:51
schestowitz>   > another term,Oct 09 16:51
schestowitz> Oct 09 16:51
schestowitz> No.  The GNU Project does not have a code of conduct.  I reject theOct 09 16:51
schestowitz> idea, so I refused to adopt one.Oct 09 16:52
schestowitz> Oct 09 16:52
schestowitz> The Kind Communication Guidelines are not a code of conduct.Oct 09 16:52
schestowitz> I explained the difference in the message where I announced them.Oct 09 16:52
HayekniceOct 09 16:54
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, I got banned from FICO Forums again.Oct 09 16:55
DaemonFC[m]The topic was Capital One cutting card limits after "stimulus talks collapsed".Oct 09 16:55
DaemonFC[m]I said, "Yeah, Individual 1 collapsed them over Twitter and then the stock market noticed and he went back to insisting that he wants talks to resume, but all he ever does is talk and the banks realize what's coming.".Oct 09 16:56
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I kind of got the impression from the apartment complex that we're looking at that they desperately want more tenants right now. I'm sure this eviction ban is killing them, and it only applies to people who were delinquent on their rent when this whole thing started so that they wouldn't lose their home.Oct 09 16:57
DaemonFC[m]So if they move us in not only are we not covered by it, I can't file bankruptcy again.Oct 09 16:57
DaemonFC[m]So they know that we're going to pay.Oct 09 16:57
DaemonFC[m]It's not a rent amnesty, but once these people are behind by 6 months you're never going to get that back.Oct 09 16:58
DaemonFC[m]If they don't get more paying tenants soon, they could go under themselves. Oct 09 16:58
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Mom thinks the fact that they actually ran our credit is a good sign.Oct 09 16:59
DaemonFC[m]She said, "Why would they bother to run your credit if they already knew they were going to deny you?".Oct 09 16:59
DaemonFC[m]So I'm thinking the questions about arrests and bankruptcy are just there because they'll find out anyway and they want to know if they're dealing with a dishonest applicant who tried to lie about it. Oct 09 17:00
DaemonFC[m]I'm sure that as far as bankruptcy goes, most landlords don't seem to care as long as it's been discharged, and arrests, well.....depends on what it was for, how long ago, and if you were convicted or not.Oct 09 17:00
DaemonFC[m]An arrest is embarrassing, but most of them only have "We don't rent if it was a conviction." or "Two years have to pass after a conviction for this.".Oct 09 17:01
scientesexactlyOct 09 17:01
scientesand that is why people complaining about him being "pedantic" about libre software over open source are missing the pointOct 09 17:01
DaemonFC[m]Torvalds tried to implement a code of conflict.Oct 09 17:02
DaemonFC[m]I thought that was funny.Oct 09 17:02
DaemonFC[m]Kind Communication Guidelines just seems to me that you can make fair criticism of code contributions but they're not going to tolerate you going into some sort of obscene personal attack against someone. Oct 09 17:03
DaemonFC[m]Linux has gotten to the point where you have to be offensively polite to people who bring you bad code.Oct 09 17:04
schestowitzsounds about rightOct 09 17:09
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2019/06/23/bill-gates-and-his-jihad/Oct 09 17:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bill Gates Said He Was on a “Jihad” Against GNU/Linux, But GNU/Linux Users/Developers Engaged in Self-Defense Are Foul-Mouthed ‘Microsoft Haters’? | TechrightsOct 09 17:09
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*DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/iApyfAXrUqZhzVrdveaURIEw/message.txt >Oct 09 19:09
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DaemonFC[m]Okay, well the lady at the apartment complex said they're waiting to see what the main office says, the main office is probably going to make a decision on Monday, but that's when I was paid up with the hotel until...so....Oct 09 21:39
DaemonFC[m]I dropped down to the weekly rate so that I'm good through the 19th. It's a few dollars a day more but I don't want to buy an entire month and then have them tell me "You're approved. You can move in right away.".Oct 09 21:39
DaemonFC[m]Then I've got this whole month that cost me $1,200 and I'm not even going to use half of itOct 09 21:40
DaemonFC[m]If they deny us for the apartment I'll just go back down to the monthly rate and give up for a while.Oct 09 21:41
DaemonFC[m]Maybe stay here for another year and then ask what the landlords think about things then.Oct 09 21:41
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XRevan86Another explosion in Beirut, Lebanon.Oct 09 22:16
XRevan86https://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2020/10/09/Two-dead-several-injured-after-explosion-in-Lebanon-s-capital-BeirutOct 09 22:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-english.alarabiya.net | Four dead, several injured after explosion in Lebanon’s capital, Beirut | Al Arabiya EnglishOct 09 22:19
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DaemonFC[m]This bankruptcy and the arrest record are fucking toxic.Oct 09 22:49
DaemonFC[m]It's like a bomb that will not stop going off. Oct 09 22:50
schestowitzOct 09 22:50
schestowitzLinks 9/10/2020: KDE Plasma Mobile and Garuda Linux âGolden EagleâOct 09 22:50
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2020/10/09/kde-plasma-mobile/Oct 09 22:50
schestowitzOct 09 22:50
schestowitztoday's leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143043Oct 09 22:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 9/10/2020: KDE Plasma Mobile and Garuda Linux “Golden Eagle” | TechrightsOct 09 22:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesOct 09 22:50
schestowitzOct 09 22:50
schestowitzProgramming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143042Oct 09 22:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux MachinesOct 09 22:50
schestowitzOct 09 22:50
schestowitz#Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143040Oct 09 22:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesOct 09 22:50
schestowitzOct 09 22:50
schestowitzPlasma Mobile update: September 2020 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143039Oct 09 22:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Plasma Mobile update: September 2020 | Tux MachinesOct 09 22:50
schestowitzOct 09 22:50
schestowitzOpen-source use goes up while the economy goes down http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143038Oct 09 22:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open-source use goes up while the economy goes down | Tux MachinesOct 09 22:50
schestowitzOct 09 22:50
schestowitzIPFire 2.25 - Core Update 151 is available for testing http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143037Oct 09 22:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IPFire 2.25 - Core Update 151 is available for testing | Tux MachinesOct 09 22:50
schestowitzOct 09 22:50
schestowitzThe 10 Best Debian Based Linux Distributions for Beginners Like Me http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143036Oct 09 22:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The 10 Best Debian Based Linux Distributions for Beginners Like Me | Tux MachinesOct 09 22:50
schestowitzOct 09 22:50
schestowitztoday's howtosOct 09 22:50
schestowitzhttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143035Oct 09 22:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesOct 09 22:51
schestowitzOct 09 22:51
schestowitzGames: A Fox Tale, Graveyard Keeper, Burning Knight, RITE, shapezio and StardeusOct 09 22:51
schestowitzhttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143034Oct 09 22:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: A Fox Tale, Graveyard Keeper, Burning Knight, RITE, shapez.io and Stardeus | Tux MachinesOct 09 22:51
schestowitzOct 09 22:51
schestowitzKDEâs Plasma Mobile Gets New Lock Screen and Virtual Keyboard, Game Center App http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143033Oct 09 22:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE’s Plasma Mobile Gets New Lock Screen and Virtual Keyboard, Game Center App | Tux MachinesOct 09 22:51
schestowitzOct 09 22:51
schestowitzFSFE: Congratulations to the FSF on its thirty-fifth anniversary http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/142861#comment-26658Oct 09 22:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FSF at 35 -- join us in celebrating the incredible community | Tux MachinesOct 09 22:51
schestowitzOct 09 22:51
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: GNOME 3.36.7 Desktop Update Released with Various Bug Fixes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143041 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ea1a8b40-00a6-4e63-af33-626bc47bd764]Oct 09 22:52
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 7 Best Free and Open Source Linux Caching Systems http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143044 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e2344824-cb9c-461f-bd5e-051a3e3a1711]Oct 09 22:53
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: The Current Intel Coffee Lake Mitigation Performance Impact With Linux 5.9 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143045 [https://pleroma.site/objects/536faa7c-9bd4-4cf7-bc60-21ea388c9805]Oct 09 22:54
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143046 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c790afa1-616a-4831-8ae1-c1043e68daa9]Oct 09 22:55
DaemonFC[m]https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/05/10/3-firefighters-hospitalized-when-ceiling-collapses-as-they-fight-south-shore-blaze/Oct 09 22:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-chicago.cbslocal.com | 3 Firefighters Hospitalized When Ceiling Collapses As They Fight South Shore Blaze – CBS ChicagoOct 09 22:57
schestowitzIBM is now a clown compnayOct 09 23:13
schestowitzit saysOct 09 23:13
XRevan86https://xkcd.com/2370/Oct 09 23:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: PredictionOct 09 23:14
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: KDE’s Apps Update for October 2020 Brings Improvements to Kid3, Labplot, and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143047 [https://pleroma.site/objects/91e3a012-1d2f-439f-9190-dda57d1fc374]Oct 09 23:20
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Wine 5.19 Released and 11 New Games You Can Play With Proton http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143048 [https://pleroma.site/objects/8c0ab613-ca6c-495c-9b26-488b2abcdeb1]Oct 09 23:34
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Unix vs Linux – Key Differences You Need To Know http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143049 [https://pleroma.site/objects/5b8d9369-a8c7-41fa-80a1-5dd9d2b2e270]Oct 09 23:38
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today’s howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143050 [https://pleroma.site/objects/b671a353-e37d-4f12-a8e7-fadf22abd113]Oct 09 23:41
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Python Programming http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143051 [https://pleroma.site/objects/1e347c29-a8cc-4008-9287-4dcc96315f3c]Oct 09 23:49
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 15 Privacy-Focused Free Open-source Web Browsers That care about your Privacy http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143052 [https://pleroma.site/objects/085cbe27-583d-4883-807c-01866ae67cf3]Oct 09 23:59

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