IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Monday, November 09, 2020

scientes	lwn.net on the other hand is technically quite good	Nov 09 00:00
schestowitz	yes, it is	Nov 09 00:01
schestowitz	but it has made mistakes too	Nov 09 00:01
schestowitz	nobody is perfect :-)	Nov 09 00:01
scientes	yes, their stuff on race conditions was pretty broken	Nov 09 00:01
scientes	there was this article	Nov 09 00:01
scientes	basically they should just use the C++ memory model like everyone else	Nov 09 00:02
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scientes	and maybe write some tests that the code generated is good in the places where it matters	Nov 09 00:03
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DaemonFC[m]	https://politicalwire.com/2020/11/08/trump-will-return-to-a-struggling-business/	Nov 09 00:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-politicalwire.com \| Trump Will Return to a Struggling Business		Nov 09 00:07
DaemonFC[m]	Trump won't be able to direct taxpayer money (not to mention bribery from foreign governments) to his properties after he leaves office.	Nov 09 00:07
schestowitz	wait	Nov 09 00:07
schestowitz	the fun part starts there	Nov 09 00:07
schestowitz	Dems will open up files	Nov 09 00:07
schestowitz	and find out if he illegally funneled money	Nov 09 00:07
scientes	schestowitz, $23 trillion	Nov 09 00:08
schestowitz	and that's where Trump considers taking a revolver to his head	Nov 09 00:08
scientes	or whatever it is	Nov 09 00:08
schestowitz	27	Nov 09 00:08
scientes	its more like a chute	Nov 09 00:08
scientes	a funnel is too small for all this money	Nov 09 00:08
schestowitz	maybe he's 'do a Lincoln' on himself	Nov 09 00:08
schestowitz	(Project Lincoln)	Nov 09 00:08
schestowitz	or maybe he'll just leak doorknobs with covid on them	Nov 09 00:09
schestowitz	to "own the libs"	Nov 09 00:09
scientes	aparently they are trying to prop up the commercial real estate sector by opening the chute wider	Nov 09 00:09
scientes	its like goatsce	Nov 09 00:09
scientes	how wide will it open?	Nov 09 00:09
DaemonFC[m]	https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2020/11/08/biden-trump-election-live-updates/#link-QVHXDQ6HPJF5ZLFG5VCFLJPKWM	Nov 09 00:09
schestowitz	vZS1: if you scroll down a bit you'll see under IRC the table with CIDs in http://techrights.org/txt/	Nov 09 00:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com \| Biden wins presidency: Live updates - The Washington Post		Nov 09 00:10
DaemonFC[m]	Layoffs and bankruptcies of his properties already.	Nov 09 00:10
DaemonFC[m]	With $427 million in loan payments coming due very soon.	Nov 09 00:10
CrystalMath	wouldn't be the first time	Nov 09 00:10
scientes	why do you need updates	Nov 09 00:10
DaemonFC[m]	The part of the speculation of a Trump 2024 campaign is really amusing, not just because he'll have filed bankruptcy again by then and be completely broke.	Nov 09 00:10
schestowitz	his wife is divorcing him BTW	Nov 09 00:10
schestowitz	third divorce	Nov 09 00:10
CrystalMath	not the first time for that either	Nov 09 00:11
schestowitz	what a "Success"	Nov 09 00:11
schestowitz	so much "Winning"	Nov 09 00:11
schestowitz	he weaponised closeted racism in the US	Nov 09 00:11
schestowitz	set it all loose	Nov 09 00:11
DaemonFC[m]	"But he could also embrace new sources of revenue — perhaps a return to television, where his work on NBC’s “The Apprentice” once provided millions in cash."	Nov 09 00:11
schestowitz	to gain power and keep it for a while	Nov 09 00:11
schestowitz	and now the damage is done and it can take many decades to fix	Nov 09 00:11
DaemonFC[m]	Wrong. Trump is more toxic now. Nobody is going to do a TV deal with a guy like him.	Nov 09 00:12
schestowitz	after slavery and reparations and all	Nov 09 00:12
DaemonFC[m]	It's not good business anymore.	Nov 09 00:12
MinceR	not even fox noise?	Nov 09 00:12
schestowitz	Breitbart	Nov 09 00:12
MinceR	does breitbart have a tv channel?	Nov 09 00:12
schestowitz	Breitbutt, breitfart	Nov 09 00:12
schestowitz	MinceR: they might have a "tv celeb"	Nov 09 00:13
schestowitz	donnie covfefe	Nov 09 00:13
CrystalMath	honestly why the hell did he take out loans now?	Nov 09 00:14
DaemonFC[m]	Fox News was the first TV network to call Arizona for Biden.	Nov 09 00:14
DaemonFC[m]	Even when I think they really jumped the gun on that one.	Nov 09 00:14
CrystalMath	isn't he like really old	Nov 09 00:14
CrystalMath	he should have been preparing for retirement	Nov 09 00:14
MinceR	maybe he believes he'll live forever	Nov 09 00:14
DaemonFC[m]	What's up with that?	Nov 09 00:14
CrystalMath	though maybe i'm wrong, maybe Trump isn't like that	Nov 09 00:16
CrystalMath	Trump prefers the volatile lifestyle	Nov 09 00:16
CrystalMath	maybe	Nov 09 00:16
DaemonFC[m]	"Fox News’s audience plummeted yesterday after Biden became president-elect. During the Biden/Harris speeches, Fox had 3 million viewers, the lowest total of any network."	Nov 09 00:18
DaemonFC[m]	Their viewers are furious with them for calling Arizona for Biden.	Nov 09 00:18
CrystalMath	because FoxNews turned on Trump	Nov 09 00:18
DaemonFC[m]	This could be the end of Fox News.	Nov 09 00:18
CrystalMath	and congratulated Biden	Nov 09 00:18
CrystalMath	yeah	Nov 09 00:18
CrystalMath	a well deserved end	Nov 09 00:18
MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/2009012	Nov 09 00:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de \| IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4859715)		Nov 09 00:19
CrystalMath	although i suppose the Fox Network is pretty big	Nov 09 00:19
CrystalMath	they're popular all over the world	Nov 09 00:19
MinceR	well, there were some "republicans" that started fleeing the trumpanic early	Nov 09 00:19
MinceR	maybe fox noise will be their network	Nov 09 00:20
MinceR	maybe the "republican" party will turn away from dump and it will be theirs	Nov 09 00:20
CrystalMath	then i'm not interested in the gop	Nov 09 00:20
CrystalMath	if it's gonna be people like Romney? no way	Nov 09 00:20
MinceR	it always was :>	Nov 09 00:20
MinceR	well, that's not true	Nov 09 00:20
DaemonFC[m]	Romney voted to convict Trump and remove him from office.	Nov 09 00:21
MinceR	they used to be a liberal/libertarian party long ago	Nov 09 00:21
DaemonFC[m]	They've had a feud for some time.	Nov 09 00:21
CrystalMath	DaemonFC[m]: yeah, because he's a bastard	Nov 09 00:21
CrystalMath	he's always been a bastard	Nov 09 00:21
CrystalMath	it's just that Trump didn't see it	Nov 09 00:21
DaemonFC[m]	Romney wanted a cabinet job and Trump invited him over for dinner and then humiliated him.	Nov 09 00:21
MinceR	or at least the less authoritarian of the two parties	Nov 09 00:21
CrystalMath	but i knew it since 2012	Nov 09 00:21
DaemonFC[m]	The same people who voted for Romney in 2012 voted for McCain in 2008 and Bush and Trump.	Nov 09 00:21
DaemonFC[m]	So it's not like these are different people and who the fuck did that... You know?	Nov 09 00:22
CrystalMath	well it would certainly not be me	Nov 09 00:22
DaemonFC[m]	So they can't really weasel out of picking or trying to pick horrible presidents.	Nov 09 00:22
CrystalMath	i would have wrote in Ron Paul or something in 2012	Nov 09 00:22
MinceR	well, certainly, as you're not an uhmerican citizen	Nov 09 00:22
CrystalMath	and Ron Paul in 2008	Nov 09 00:22
CrystalMath	MinceR: speaking hypothetically	Nov 09 00:22
DaemonFC[m]	I voted for Obama twice.	Nov 09 00:22
CrystalMath	MinceR: also it would require time travel	Nov 09 00:23
CrystalMath	since 2012-me would have voted for Obama	Nov 09 00:23
CrystalMath	but 2012 me was an idiot	Nov 09 00:23
DaemonFC[m]	I wasn't really political until I saw Bush steal the 2000 election and even then not really until after the wars and the "patriot" act.	Nov 09 00:23
CrystalMath	i didn't see bush steal the 2000 election, i saw a burnt down building and was incorrectly told that it was destroyed by NATO forces	Nov 09 00:24
DaemonFC[m]	But I was only 17 when Bush stole the election with the court. And it was much easier than it would be with Trump because Bush was ahead in the original count and he stopped the recount when things were going Al Gore's way, in one state.	Nov 09 00:24
CrystalMath	and i decided that i'll never forgive Clinton	Nov 09 00:24
CrystalMath	although that building burnt down due to some bad wiring, actually	Nov 09 00:24
DaemonFC[m]	So Trump would have to reverse four states where Biden is much much further ahead than Bush in Florida in 2000.	Nov 09 00:24
CrystalMath	DaemonFC[m]: except the software glitch moved it by a lot	Nov 09 00:25
DaemonFC[m]	And it was a major undertaking in Florida in 2000 for the Republicans to stop the recount.	Nov 09 00:25
DaemonFC[m]	It was hundreds of lawyers and dozens of corrupt public officials, and things were a lot more murky with the ballots because of those shitty ballots and punch cards.	Nov 09 00:25
CrystalMath	honestly, if Trump somehow wins, i hope that those dem bastards who screwed with the election get what's coming to them	Nov 09 00:25
CrystalMath	that would be justice	Nov 09 00:26
DaemonFC[m]	Nobody screwed with the election except Trump.	Nov 09 00:26
DaemonFC[m]	He cheated with things like the post office sabotage.	Nov 09 00:26
CrystalMath	yes they did, the software gave Biden extra votes	Nov 09 00:26
DaemonFC[m]	And it was clearly still not enough.	Nov 09 00:26
DaemonFC[m]	So Biden's real win would be much bigger.	Nov 09 00:26
MinceR	https://i.imgur.com/0LQCRzq.jpg	Nov 09 00:26
DaemonFC[m]	The post office admits now that they delayed at least 180,000 votes nationwide so they wouldn't get to the election offices in time.	Nov 09 00:27
schestowitz	can anyone help me figure out why the CSS in this page is not being picked up?	Nov 09 00:27
schestowitz	https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmU3QMm4W672SSN2buqEG9ouKsQ6EtXYSX6gn6WfT4haSM	Nov 09 00:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipfs.io \| IRC: #boycottnovell-social @ FreeNode: Sunday, November 08, 2020		Nov 09 00:27
DaemonFC[m]	So Biden probably should have gotten at least 100,000 more votes that may or may not ever count.	Nov 09 00:27
CrystalMath	DaemonFC[m]: maybe from dead people	Nov 09 00:27
CrystalMath	DaemonFC[m]: and people born in 1832	Nov 09 00:27
DaemonFC[m]	You cannot be serious.	Nov 09 00:27
CrystalMath	yes, this stuff happened	Nov 09 00:27
CrystalMath	there are witnesses	Nov 09 00:27
DaemonFC[m]	Barack Obama won Indiana under the most severe Voter ID law in the country.	Nov 09 00:28
CrystalMath	voting by mail is a disaster	Nov 09 00:28
schestowitz	works well when hosted locally http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-081120.html	Nov 09 00:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: Sunday, November 08, 2020		Nov 09 00:28
CrystalMath	the only thing more outrageously fake is online voting	Nov 09 00:28
DaemonFC[m]	How would he have cheated that? It was almost entirely in person too.	Nov 09 00:28
CrystalMath	DaemonFC[m]: Obama didn't lose, Biden lost	Nov 09 00:28
DaemonFC[m]	Well, almost no online voting except for a few states for military members.	Nov 09 00:28
schestowitz	the URLs and domains are hard-coded why does ipfs stuff not pick the css file?	Nov 09 00:28
DaemonFC[m]	So unless you mean you want to cheat military members out of their votes then, okay?	Nov 09 00:29
DaemonFC[m]	They deserve to vote too.	Nov 09 00:29
CrystalMath	DaemonFC[m]: this year cheating was made possible by voting by mail	Nov 09 00:29
DaemonFC[m]	Trump's talking about throwing away their votes.	Nov 09 00:29
CrystalMath	the software completely miscounted stuff, likely deliberately	Nov 09 00:29
DaemonFC[m]	Wrong.	Nov 09 00:29
DaemonFC[m]	And the reason Trump isn't coughing up the recount money is he knows he's full of shit.	Nov 09 00:30
DaemonFC[m]	And those fundraising emails to challenge the election say in the fine print that most of it will not be used for that.	Nov 09 00:30
DaemonFC[m]	It says that 2/3rds will be used to pay down his campaign debt.	Nov 09 00:30
MinceR	i, too, hope that the bastards that sabotaged the USPS and then spread lies about the ballots that were delayed by this to screw with the election get what's coming to them	Nov 09 00:30
CrystalMath	MinceR: voting by mail at this massive scale should never have been allowed	Nov 09 00:31
CrystalMath	so i forgive Trump if he did sabotage USPS	Nov 09 00:31
CrystalMath	not the latter part, though	Nov 09 00:31
schestowitz	is there something that says a css file cannot be imported from another domain? doubt it...	Nov 09 00:31
DaemonFC[m]	He'll never be the president again.	Nov 09 00:31
MinceR	yeah, they should have all gone in person, coughed in each others' mouths and licked in each others' ears. hail Nurgle!	Nov 09 00:31
DaemonFC[m]	12 diet cokes a day and diet of mcdonalds and kfc.	Nov 09 00:31
DaemonFC[m]	Never touches vegetables.	Nov 09 00:31
DaemonFC[m]	I mean, he is a vegetable with a very carrot-like coloring, but other than that.	Nov 09 00:32
CrystalMath	MinceR: people can wear masks	Nov 09 00:32
MinceR	masks do not make people 100% immune to SARS-CoV-2	Nov 09 00:32
MinceR	funny thing, there was some drive-in voting to reduce the risk and cheeto hitler also tried to sabotage that	Nov 09 00:32
CrystalMath	of course not, they prevent it from spreading when you're in a situation that could spread it	Nov 09 00:32
MinceR	because he's a nurglite piece of shit	Nov 09 00:33
MinceR	no, they don't prevent it, they merely make it less risky	Nov 09 00:33
DaemonFC[m]	He most likely won't be alive in 4 years.	Nov 09 00:33
CrystalMath	unless he wins this year	Nov 09 00:33
DaemonFC[m]	He had some propaganda doctor release a political statement that said he was in great health, but we all know that's ridiculous.	Nov 09 00:33
CrystalMath	although, then he'll be hit by the curse of Tecumseh	Nov 09 00:33
DaemonFC[m]	He never would have lived through a second term even had he won.	Nov 09 00:33
CrystalMath	so yeah, i don't know if he'll be with us in 2024 :(	Nov 09 00:34
DaemonFC[m]	Curse of Ronald McDonald.	Nov 09 00:34
MinceR	lol	Nov 09 00:34
DaemonFC[m]	Anal cancer maybe.	Nov 09 00:34
DaemonFC[m]	From eating all of those fish supremes and chocolate malteds.	Nov 09 00:34
DaemonFC[m]	Whatever those are.	Nov 09 00:34
superkuh	There were not masks produced and made available to the public. They were restricted to health workers and the like. Unfit, flappy, open fabric covers are not masks that prevent you from getting sick.	Nov 09 00:34
superkuh	The government should've been setting up long term production orders with Ameritech and 3M back in Feb.	Nov 09 00:35
CrystalMath	superkuh: but if everoyne wears them...	Nov 09 00:35
MinceR	i have an FFP3 mask, but even that does not give 100% protection	Nov 09 00:35
superkuh	But even know they aren't operating to capacity.	Nov 09 00:35
CrystalMath	i only wear the flappy ones	Nov 09 00:35
DaemonFC[m]	I just have a bunch of shitty cloth masks like most people in America.	Nov 09 00:35
CrystalMath	because i don't care if i get sick	Nov 09 00:35
DaemonFC[m]	The great Trump economy couldn't even get ahold of masks, gloves, or hand sanitizer.	Nov 09 00:35
CrystalMath	it's just to stop me from spreading it	Nov 09 00:35
DaemonFC[m]	Seriously, couldn't find hand sanitizer for 4 months during the worst pandemic in over a century.	Nov 09 00:36
CrystalMath	in that scenario	Nov 09 00:36
MinceR	the flappy ones aren't as good at stopping the spread either	Nov 09 00:36
superkuh	Well, sure, at the start things were forgivable.	Nov 09 00:36
superkuh	But now? Not so much.	Nov 09 00:36
superkuh	There should be production and distribution.	Nov 09 00:36
CrystalMath	MinceR: but if i get covid-19, and i die, i obey the almighty will of Nature	Nov 09 00:36
DaemonFC[m]	MinceR: No, which is why we're at 150,000 confirmed cases per day now.	Nov 09 00:36
DaemonFC[m]	12,000 of them in Illinois alone.	Nov 09 00:36
CrystalMath	i won't even get treated for cancer if i get that	Nov 09 00:37
CrystalMath	and i would refuse ventilators	Nov 09 00:37
CrystalMath	if i need one	Nov 09 00:37
CrystalMath	for any reason	Nov 09 00:37
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Digit	would be cool to see more how-to to follow the hopes that more will follow. http://techrights.org/2020/11/08/peer-to-peer-dweb/ showing the way too, not just exemplifying and hoping. :)	Nov 09 00:39
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schestowitz	Oh, I found the culprit then	Nov 09 00:39
DaemonFC[m]	That was Biden's best moment.	Nov 09 00:39
DaemonFC[m]	When Trump made it obvious how clueless and uncaring he was.	Nov 09 00:39
DaemonFC[m]	"People are learning to live with it!"	Nov 09 00:39
DaemonFC[m]	And then Biden says, "No, Mr. President. People are dying of it.".	Nov 09 00:39
DaemonFC[m]	Biden didn't have to win the debates so much as not lose them and not let Trump get away with murder (as much as possible).	Nov 09 00:40
DaemonFC[m]	Trump wanted more debates because his own internal polls showed he was likely to lose.	Nov 09 00:40
DaemonFC[m]	But then he infected the entire White House with the virus and was unable to do the second one.	Nov 09 00:41
CrystalMath	and who died? nobody	Nov 09 00:41
CrystalMath	not even Trump	Nov 09 00:41
DaemonFC[m]	Gee, because they all have good healthcare. The best.	Nov 09 00:41
DaemonFC[m]	You pay for it.	Nov 09 00:41
CrystalMath	no not me, i'm not an american :P	Nov 09 00:41
DaemonFC[m]	Stuff you'll never have access to.	Nov 09 00:41
schestowitz	seems like many use ipfs already	Nov 09 00:41
schestowitz	https://ipfs.io/images/ipfs-applications-diagram.png	Nov 09 00:41
DaemonFC[m]	Even if it's there, who can afford it?	Nov 09 00:42
schestowitz	even guix	Nov 09 00:42
DaemonFC[m]	Eric Lipton, in Washington 5:10 PM ET	Nov 09 00:42
DaemonFC[m]	I ran into random federal employees I know. From various agencies. Again and again, they expressed enormous relief. A storm cloud is passing. Work of the government can continue.	Nov 09 00:42
DaemonFC[m]	----	Nov 09 00:43
DaemonFC[m]	John told me that NOBODY at the TSA liked Donald Trump.	Nov 09 00:43
CrystalMath	nobody likes the TSA	Nov 09 00:43
DaemonFC[m]	And if 1-2 of them did, not after the shutdown where they were getting eviction letters from not being paid.	Nov 09 00:43
DaemonFC[m]	Well, he wasn't paying any government workers during the shutdown.	Nov 09 00:43
DaemonFC[m]	So it's not a surprise that they remembered that, and remembered to vote.	Nov 09 00:43
DaemonFC[m]	There's hundreds of thousands of them, so like everything Trump does. Shortsighted and stupid and blew up on him in the end.	Nov 09 00:44
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MinceR	great stuff >> http://techrights.org/2020/11/08/peer-to-peer-dweb/	Nov 09 00:46
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schestowitz	MinceR: thanks!	Nov 09 00:47
schestowitz	running from home, on a raspi	Nov 09 00:47
schestowitz	along with other nodes all around the world	Nov 09 00:47
schestowitz	so it would be accessible if powered down as well	Nov 09 00:47
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schestowitz	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nF8WRFw5sHQ	Nov 09 02:07
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schestowitz	"I'm not surprised that these open source communities are dying. They were founded based on the ideals of free speech and selfless sharing of technology. Both of these ideals are dying." https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25027296	Nov 09 02:36
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CrystalMath	schestowitz: personally i believe that what's really amazing about free software is the autonomy you have while making it, nobody tells you how to do it	Nov 09 02:37
CrystalMath	schestowitz: that's why people love working on projects, but not systemd or firefox	Nov 09 02:38
CrystalMath	because with things like systemd you have no individual autonomy	Nov 09 02:38
Digit	free software community, yes. open source community, more a co-option rebrand usurption embrace-extend-extinguish thing. pity free software had an ambiguous dual meaning, to the uninitiated ear seeming the other meaning, with freedom not in sight. easy pickings. now we see extinguish trickling in.	Nov 09 02:39
schestowitz	I don't think words were the primary issue	Nov 09 02:41
schestowitz	even if it was called "freedom software", something like OSI would emerge	Nov 09 02:41
Digit	sure.	Nov 09 02:41
schestowitz	like "business freedom foundation"	Nov 09 02:41
schestowitz	and then coopt the movement	Nov 09 02:42
schestowitz	and some company like Red Hat would brain-drain GNU	Nov 09 02:42
CrystalMath	they can always try...	Nov 09 02:42
CrystalMath	but it doesn't have to work	Nov 09 02:42
Digit	language just greases the desk-killer's train's wheels.	Nov 09 02:42
schestowitz	seems like an excuse	Nov 09 02:42
schestowitz	although RMS said he partly regretted the name	Nov 09 02:42
schestowitz	and it was too late to change it	Nov 09 02:42
schestowitz	to remove ambiguity	Nov 09 02:43
Digit	faifware. n_n	Nov 09 02:43
schestowitz	he had a target on our collective arse -- and his -- regardless	Nov 09 02:43
schestowitz	if the name wasn't an "issue", they'd find something else	Nov 09 02:43
schestowitz	we recently published an article about it	Nov 09 02:43
schestowitz	it was a week or two ago	Nov 09 02:43
schestowitz	the name is a distraction	Nov 09 02:43
schestowitz	OSI uses that as an excuse for its existence	Nov 09 02:44
schestowitz	its def is based on Debian's, which is based on FSF's	Nov 09 02:44
schestowitz	so in effect they're just making a parallel org	Nov 09 02:44
schestowitz	and then boost this org and brand in the media	Nov 09 02:44
schestowitz	then it gets further entrenches	Nov 09 02:44
schestowitz	* entrenched	Nov 09 02:44
schestowitz	in turn it attacks the thing it was really derived from	Nov 09 02:45
schestowitz	to borrow a hypothetical "Attack Plan"	Nov 09 02:45
schestowitz	someone comes here, "Techrights amicus"	Nov 09 02:45
schestowitz	Then asks to create some domain like "Techrights Canada"	Nov 09 02:45
schestowitz	(partly based on a true story)	Nov 09 02:45
schestowitz	and similar to what FSFE did to FSF	Nov 09 02:46
schestowitz	Then that new site distorts what we say	Nov 09 02:46
schestowitz	so the identity gets tarnished, misrepresented	Nov 09 02:46
schestowitz	then they net millions from Microsoft, Cisco, Intel	Nov 09 02:46
schestowitz	and become bigger and "better" than the original	Nov 09 02:46
schestowitz	and we're just some lousy small site	Nov 09 02:46
schestowitz	and the "Techrights" everyone knows, sponsored by Microsoft, says "Azure is the future!!"	Nov 09 02:47
schestowitz	BTW	Nov 09 02:47
schestowitz	many attempts lately to register techrights china lately	Nov 09 02:47
schestowitz	the chinese regime sends me emails to ask if it's authorised	Nov 09 02:47
schestowitz	we respond "no"	Nov 09 02:47
schestowitz	so their internet companies block domains like techrights.org.cn techrights.com.cn etc.	Nov 09 02:48
schestowitz	Last month they tried the same with schestowitz.com.cn etc.	Nov 09 02:48
schestowitz	which I found odd and quaint	Nov 09 02:48
schestowitz	like... who in China is a "witz" anyway	Nov 09 02:48
schestowitz	?	Nov 09 02:48
DaemonFC[m]	Democrats not only defeated the incumbent prosecutor and coroner in lake County, Illinois, they grabbed two more county board seats.	Nov 09 02:51
DaemonFC[m]	Lake County used to be a Republican stronghold and now they barely have any offices.	Nov 09 02:52
DaemonFC[m]	<schestowitz "like... who in China is a "witz""> Well, when that Linsux thing was around and they were trolling Techrights and laughing about it and calling for me to be banned, they seem to have caught Roy unaware.	Nov 09 02:54
DaemonFC[m]	Was on Twitter telling them he was considering banning me, while the same people were on Linsux forums calling him "shitzferwitz" if I remember correctly.	Nov 09 02:55
DaemonFC[m]	Linsux. Really? Like who is going to spend their own money registering a domain and putting a forum up like that?	Nov 09 02:55
DaemonFC[m]	I think Windows 10 is godawful but you know, the results are speaking for themselves like they always do every time Windows declines some more in quality.	Nov 09 02:56
DaemonFC[m]	People vote with their feet even if they have to put some effort into it because it's easier to learn a completely new system that actually usually works okay than it is to keep stopping because of crashes and ransomware and bad updates and bricked firmware and product activation errors.	Nov 09 02:57
DaemonFC[m]	Even if you, the user, do absolutely nothing "wrong", Windows will accumulate bizarre errors that pile up. Some come, some go, but they pile up.	Nov 09 02:58
DaemonFC[m]	Because their update process is like a firehose feeding into a drain that's 3/4ths of the way clogged.	Nov 09 02:58
DaemonFC[m]	They're always adding more bugs than they fix.	Nov 09 02:59
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DaemonFC[m]	So I still want someone to explain "Linsux" to me. Honestly.	Nov 09 02:59
DaemonFC[m]	They said they liked BSD, and maybe they actually got it working on a PC. More power to them because I never have.	Nov 09 02:59
schestowitz	Linsux?	Nov 09 03:00
schestowitz	That was like a decade back, no?	Nov 09 03:00
DaemonFC[m]	BSD, as we are all aware, is totally secure because nobody can possibly run malicious code with remote access in the absence of network drivers.	Nov 09 03:00
DaemonFC[m]	<schestowitz "That was like a decade back, no?"> It was, but they're running /r/Linux now pretty much.	Nov 09 03:01
schestowitz	that explains a lot then	Nov 09 03:01
DaemonFC[m]	I don't know if it's the exact people but it seems like Microsoft always has a covert team of people who complain about Linux and derail the conversation into something about Windows.	Nov 09 03:01
schestowitz	any proof of that though?	Nov 09 03:01
DaemonFC[m]	It's the same attitude at least. Worse, even, because they'll do shit and it just says "The Moderators". Like, who is doing this and why won't they explain themselves?	Nov 09 03:02
DaemonFC[m]	Arbitrary rules which you happen to break by complaining about Windows (to any degree) or trying to post Linux news.	Nov 09 03:03
schestowitz	some might be using linux as a hobby, sometimes	Nov 09 03:03
schestowitz	vZS1: read this ^^	Nov 09 03:03
schestowitz	(re Reddit)	Nov 09 03:03
DaemonFC[m]	If Windows existed in a free market and nobody was pressured to use it, I would never complain....and it also would drop to next to zero users immediately.	Nov 09 03:03
DaemonFC[m]	That's why they're stacked with lawyers, pay out bribes, etc.	Nov 09 03:04
DaemonFC[m]	They've always been terrified of Chromebooks and this DoJ lawsuit against Google is obviously a scheme where Microsoft and Oracle are behind the scenes and Trump is doing them a dirty favor.	Nov 09 03:04
DaemonFC[m]	The DoJ complaint says nothing about DRM or any of the real anti-consumer and anti-market harm Google does. Nothing at all.	Nov 09 03:05
DaemonFC[m]	It says that their search is an illegal monopoly (because it works so much better and that's why people use it, but they act like there are no others) and because their ad network hurts Microsoft's and Amazon's (not the users, which is spies on).	Nov 09 03:06
DaemonFC[m]	So I am very much not rooting for this antitrust case because it misses the real harm that Google is doing to the marketplace. To the public.	Nov 09 03:06
DaemonFC[m]	And the remedy would be to hand more of the same harmful conduct over to Microsoft and Amazon.	Nov 09 03:06
DaemonFC[m]	Separated from their ad network, Google products would be terrific.	Nov 09 03:07
DaemonFC[m]	They tend to be well designed and intuitive, at least more so than Windows and Apple.	Nov 09 03:07
DaemonFC[m]	The DoJ might demand a search engine ballot in Chrome or something.	Nov 09 03:08
DaemonFC[m]	Bing is available in Chrome, but nobody switches to it because it's terrible.	Nov 09 03:08
DaemonFC[m]	I don't even know what the hell the purpose of Edge on Linux is, other than maybe to give your sites a once over.	Nov 09 03:09
DaemonFC[m]	But you can do that on any Chromium browser.	Nov 09 03:09
schestowitz	it googlebombs "LINUX"	Nov 09 03:09
schestowitz	and helps Microsoft spread its marketing of spyware to more site	Nov 09 03:09
schestowitz	some idiots might even use it regularly	Nov 09 03:10
schestowitz	and add Microsoft PPAs to their distro	Nov 09 03:10
schestowitz	and so on and so forth...	Nov 09 03:10
schestowitz	Microsoft is attacking	Nov 09 03:10
schestowitz	we are under attack	Nov 09 03:10
schestowitz	and their bribed network, e.g. zdnet, tells us all they LOVE us	Nov 09 03:10
DaemonFC[m]	Microsoft's other Debian packages have sometimes overwritten crucial operating system files.	Nov 09 03:10
DaemonFC[m]	Why in god's name would you install anything from them?	Nov 09 03:10
schestowitz	because Microsoft loves Linux now	Nov 09 03:11
schestowitz	Hans loves Nina	Nov 09 03:11
schestowitz	Chile loves Pinochet	Nov 09 03:11
DaemonFC[m]	Even if it doesn't break your Debian/Ubuntu setup then at the very least, their shitty Microsoft program will stop functioning at some point.	Nov 09 03:11
schestowitz	Boris loves Boris	Nov 09 03:11
schestowitz	Brexit means Brexit	Nov 09 03:11
schestowitz	DaemonFC[m]: then they will say it's an accident	Nov 09 03:11
schestowitz	and then 'fix' it	Nov 09 03:12
schestowitz	and then dozens of headlines	Nov 09 03:12
schestowitz	about how Microsoft loves Linux	Nov 09 03:12
schestowitz	because they fix what they break	Nov 09 03:12
schestowitz	as they did with Skype	Nov 09 03:12
schestowitz	bought a program that supported Linux	Nov 09 03:12
schestowitz	then broke it	Nov 09 03:12
DaemonFC[m]	I heard on NPR the other day that Lichtenstein is really cleaning up on brexit.	Nov 09 03:12
schestowitz	then restored, partially, some fucntionality	Nov 09 03:12
schestowitz	hence "loves Linux"	Nov 09 03:12
DaemonFC[m]	Something about the UK making itself far less relevant as a financial center.	Nov 09 03:12
DaemonFC[m]	Have fun with that I guess.	Nov 09 03:12
DaemonFC[m]	See, you do have idiots in the voting majority over there too.	Nov 09 03:12
schestowitz	I never supported Brexshit	Nov 09 03:13
schestowitz	DaemonFC[m]: everywhere	Nov 09 03:13
schestowitz	but we don't inaugurate nazis	Nov 09 03:13
DaemonFC[m]	Not....yet.	Nov 09 03:13
schestowitz	the US is ahead of the curve	Nov 09 03:13
DaemonFC[m]	You know, there's a first time for everything.	Nov 09 03:13
DaemonFC[m]	Hopefully this one leaves or gets carried out in handcuffs.	Nov 09 03:13
schestowitz	US was also first with eugenics, I think	Nov 09 03:13
schestowitz	ahead of the Nazis in Germany	Nov 09 03:14
DaemonFC[m]	Yes, and it was an Indiana law that was the model for that!	Nov 09 03:14
DaemonFC[m]	And the Indiana state government didn't apologize for it until 2007!	Nov 09 03:14
schestowitz	you have a state called after India	Nov 09 03:14
schestowitz	and natives were called after India	Nov 09 03:14
schestowitz	funny as India hardly had anything to do with Americas, ever...	Nov 09 03:14
DaemonFC[m]	Well, the Indiana Territory covered more than the current state of Indiana.	Nov 09 03:15
DaemonFC[m]	It was Illinois, Wisconsin, and Michigan too at one point.	Nov 09 03:15
DaemonFC[m]	Congress had a habit of carving up territories because it didn't want to admit mega states with lots of political clout.	Nov 09 03:15
schestowitz	maybe GOP can start splitting states some more	Nov 09 03:16
schestowitz	for gerrymandering purpose	Nov 09 03:16
DaemonFC[m]	Well, there was the idea of splitting Texas and California up.	Nov 09 03:16
DaemonFC[m]	But states aren't going to voluntarily do that.	Nov 09 03:16
DaemonFC[m]	The only one that carved itself up into two states voluntarily was when Massachusetts let go of Maine.	Nov 09 03:17
DaemonFC[m]	Other than that, it would be West Virginia seceding from Virginia during the Civil War.	Nov 09 03:17
DaemonFC[m]	Totally illegal, but to get it done, Congress recognized the West Virginia "government" as the Virginia legislature.	Nov 09 03:17
DaemonFC[m]	Which "consented" to partition itself.	Nov 09 03:17
DaemonFC[m]	Good thing too, honestly.	Nov 09 03:18
DaemonFC[m]	If West Virginia was still part of Virginia, you'd have another red state with a gigantic population and lots of rural voters overtaking the city voters.	Nov 09 03:18
DaemonFC[m]	There's still a proposal to split up Illinois from Chicago.	Nov 09 03:19
DaemonFC[m]	But I'd vote that down.	Nov 09 03:19
DaemonFC[m]	The Illinois Constitution requires that voters be asked at least once every 20 years if they want a constitutional convention.	Nov 09 03:19
DaemonFC[m]	I think the next time is 2030 or something.	Nov 09 03:19
DaemonFC[m]	I'll vote no.	Nov 09 03:19
DaemonFC[m]	My god can you imagine the mess they'd make out of it today?	Nov 09 03:20
schestowitz	maybe 100 states in total	Nov 09 03:21
schestowitz	another "nice number"	Nov 09 03:21
schestowitz	or maybe add some "territories" as states	Nov 09 03:21
schestowitz	give them voting powers, too	Nov 09 03:21
DaemonFC[m]	Well, the only ones left are Puerto Rico and the unorganized or unincorporated territories.	Nov 09 03:25
DaemonFC[m]	The unorganized ones are mostly uninhabited.	Nov 09 03:25
DaemonFC[m]	There's just really no strong push to change status for most of them. I don't know why. As territories the US is obligated to defend them, and they don't pay federal income taxes.	Nov 09 03:28
DaemonFC[m]	I think there's a consensus that if someone tried invading anything we have a claim on it would mean war.	Nov 09 03:29
DaemonFC[m]	Both parties seem to like war anyway.	Nov 09 03:29
DaemonFC[m]	Wag the Dog is pretty popular.	Nov 09 03:29
DaemonFC[m]	Thatcher did it in the Falklands War.	Nov 09 03:30
DaemonFC[m]	It's to distract voters, make them feel good about themselves.	Nov 09 03:30
DaemonFC[m]	Hey we just beat someone up. Woohoo. Our country is going to shit but aren't we great?	Nov 09 03:31
DaemonFC[m]	As I understand it there were no gains to the UK of anything in that except that they held onto a "possession".	Nov 09 03:31
DaemonFC[m]	"Subjects to rule over."	Nov 09 03:32
DaemonFC[m]	Just what every decaying civilization needs.	Nov 09 03:32
DaemonFC[m]	Just what it's been looking for.	Nov 09 03:32
DaemonFC[m]	There's expansion, there's decline. There's people who can't stop the decline but can stick their fingers in their ears and hum.	Nov 09 03:33
DaemonFC[m]	Those people voted for Trump and it was because he promised them a bunch of quick and easy fixes and "filthy people from shithole countries" to blame for everything, you know.	Nov 09 03:34
DaemonFC[m]	And mom and dad fell for it all, from this sleazy one term con artist.	Nov 09 03:34
schestowitz	lol	Nov 09 03:34
schestowitz	gn	Nov 09 03:35
DaemonFC[m]	Trump is the Flim Flam Man and he goes from town to town selling them a bunch of crap and then fleeing under cover of darkness when they realize what he is and start chasing him with torches and pitchforks.	Nov 09 03:38
DaemonFC[m]	My favorite part of that movie was where he ends up with an entire truckload of really terrible whisket.	Nov 09 03:38
DaemonFC[m]	*whiskey	Nov 09 03:38
DaemonFC[m]	So he goes into a store and gets a bottle of top shelf stuff and then gives someone a swig of it, and the guy agrees to buy it from him for this impossibly low price, and in actuality the rest of the truck is stuff someone brewed in a bathtub.	Nov 09 03:39
DaemonFC[m]	Trump is the presidential equivalent of that. He hoodwinked America and America fell for it....once.	Nov 09 03:39
DaemonFC[m]	Everyone who has ever done business with him tried to warn everyone else about him, but many people wouldn't listen. They voted for him anyway, despite the other people he conned, cheated, cheated on, and sexually assaulted.	Nov 09 03:41
DaemonFC[m]	His brand is now totally destroyed. He's got $427 million in loans he can't pay coming due soon. They'll claw any assets he does have in the Trump Organization in bankruptcy or lawsuit.	Nov 09 03:43
DaemonFC[m]	The name will come off the buildings.	Nov 09 03:43
DaemonFC[m]	I mean. I don't think people get just how pathetic this guy really is.	Nov 09 03:43
DaemonFC[m]	They'll see.	Nov 09 03:43
CrystalMath	71 million people voted for him	Nov 09 04:11
CrystalMath	he can't be that bad	Nov 09 04:11
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oiaohm	CrystalMath: remember people voted for people like Hitler as well. Getting votes does not make you a good person.	Nov 09 06:23
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oiaohm	https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/how-dictators-come-power-democracy Its a very interesting read. Lot of the conditions that got hilter into power existed when Trump first got in.	Nov 09 06:26
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schestowitz	raspberrypi:~ $ ipfs stats bw	Nov 09 09:03
schestowitz	Bandwidth	Nov 09 09:03
schestowitz	TotalIn: 3.0 GB	Nov 09 09:03
schestowitz	TotalOut: 1.3 GB	Nov 09 09:03
schestowitz	RateIn: 14 kB/s	Nov 09 09:03
schestowitz	RateOut: 2.4 kB/s	Nov 09 09:04
schestowitz	Not bad for a first day	Nov 09 09:04
schestowitz	>> but wait till/if it gets bigger. It'll be	Nov 09 09:25
schestowitz	> tampered with all the same...	Nov 09 09:25
schestowitz	>	Nov 09 09:25
schestowitz	> Immunity is a process. It is created by an immune system.	Nov 09 09:25
schestowitz	>	Nov 09 09:25
schestowitz	> No software, or organisation, is immune to being co-opted.	Nov 09 09:25
schestowitz	>	Nov 09 09:25
schestowitz	> Some are protected, and have resistance.	Nov 09 09:25
schestowitz	>	Nov 09 09:26
schestowitz	> GNUis not protected. it is infected, infested. It is worth protecting,	Nov 09 09:26
schestowitz	> but nobody is protecting it.	Nov 09 09:26
schestowitz	>	Nov 09 09:26
schestowitz	> FreeBSD is infested.	Nov 09 09:26
schestowitz	>	Nov 09 09:26
schestowitz	> OpenBSD and NetBSD have stewards. But they are also easier to take care of.	Nov 09 09:26
schestowitz	>	Nov 09 09:26
schestowitz	> Nothing is immune, if immune means "impervious". Stewards can be	Nov 09 09:26
schestowitz	> compromised as well as projects.	Nov 09 09:26
schestowitz	>	Nov 09 09:26
schestowitz	> The cost of freedom is eternal vigilance. But there is vigilance over	Nov 09 09:26
schestowitz	> BSD, that vigilance has disappeared elsewhere.	Nov 09 09:26
schestowitz	>	Nov 09 09:26
schestowitz	> You are among the few watching over GNU. It is still worth it, but it is	Nov 09 09:26
schestowitz	> probably too late. I said probably, not definitely. If it can be saved,	Nov 09 09:26
schestowitz	> it ought to be.	Nov 09 09:26
schestowitz	>	Nov 09 09:26
schestowitz	> With the current parties only, if Hyperbola becomes a success it could	Nov 09 09:26
schestowitz	> branch off or inspire a new GNU, if that is not exactly what Hyperbola	Nov 09 09:26
schestowitz	> itself is creating anyway.	Nov 09 09:26
vZS1	The reason the BSDs do so well is that they have people who understand business calling the shots. When you have (A)GPL code you need to be really cautious about how you run your project and keep the cashflow sustainable	Nov 09 09:28
vZS1	And GNU stuff is more about the user than monetisation.	Nov 09 09:29
vZS1	That's why you see a lot of GNU projects run out of steam. It's not easy to make that kind of thing sustainable	Nov 09 09:31
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schestowitz	thunderbird settings fixed now, no idea why it was set to NOT encrypt by default (even when a key is available for the recipient)	Nov 09 09:37
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oiaohm	schestowitz: you would not happen to be a prior Enigmail and suffering from the migration glitches with thunderbird.	Nov 09 11:11
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oiaohm	vZS1: Lot of BSD projects run out of cash as well.	Nov 09 11:26
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oiaohm	vZS1: blender is GPL and does really well for funding. But they took getting sold funding model worked out early on.	Nov 09 11:28
oiaohm	MIT and BSD licensed competitors to Blender died.	Nov 09 11:28
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oiaohm	schestowitz: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/companies-house-forces-business-name-change-to-prevent-security-risk/ar-BB1aLHMi sometimes how bad security is happens to be sad.	Nov 09 12:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.msn.com \| Companies House forces business name change to prevent security risk		Nov 09 12:06
oiaohm	Yes company was named ""> and it broke stuff.	Nov 09 12:06
schestowitz	lol	Nov 09 12:06
schestowitz	maybe they uses Microsoft (MSN) DB	Nov 09 12:07
oiaohm	Could have been fun with MS Word auto correct as well.	Nov 09 12:12
oiaohm	You know how it likes to do the left and right versions of "	Nov 09 12:13
oiaohm	Yes that would bring the finer point of legal as corrected by word would no longer be the companies name.	Nov 09 12:13
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MinceR	09 072302 < oiaohm> CrystalMath: remember people voted for people like Hitler as well. Getting votes does not make you a good person.	Nov 09 13:44
MinceR	hitler is so "hip" and "cool" nowadays though	Nov 09 13:44
MinceR	09 130607 < oiaohm> schestowitz: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/companies-house-forces-business-name-change-to-prevent-security-risk/ar-BB1aLHMi sometimes how bad security is happens to be sad.	Nov 09 13:46
MinceR	Little Bobby Tables, we call him.	Nov 09 13:46
MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/20083042	Nov 09 13:49
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kingoffrance	yes ppl are saying all kinds of us election stuff....ppl seem to think security was magically great before..diebold goes back a long ways	Nov 09 13:55
MinceR	and yet they were in no hurry to fix it	Nov 09 13:56
MinceR	once people started sending votes via mail, suddenly this became a major issue for "republicans"	Nov 09 13:57
MinceR	strange, isn't it?	Nov 09 13:57
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schestowitz	[13:44] <MinceR> hitler is so "hip" and "cool" nowadays though	Nov 09 14:01
schestowitz	Make Alemania Great Again	Nov 09 14:01
MinceR	:>	Nov 09 14:01
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CrystalMath	yeah, cause hitler was so anti-interventionist :P	Nov 09 14:03
schestowitz	he was really just a democrat	Nov 09 14:03
schestowitz	then he was "independent"	Nov 09 14:03
schestowitz	he only intervenes in "shithole countries"	Nov 09 14:04
schestowitz	to spread .DE mocracy	Nov 09 14:05
CrystalMath	are you talking about hitler or bill clinton?	Nov 09 14:06
CrystalMath	i can't tell	Nov 09 14:06
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kingoffrance	i mean, people were saying do mail because diebold stuff was not secure	Nov 09 14:12
kingoffrance	like, some ppl claimed that was more secure	Nov 09 14:12
kingoffrance	before covid it seems too	Nov 09 14:12
MinceR	mail probably was more secure than diebold's shit	Nov 09 14:32
MinceR	diebold's approach to security: "it's a computer, see? :waves hands: woo!"	Nov 09 14:33
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oiaohm	MinceR: https://www.wired.com/story/voting-village-results-hacking-decade-old-bugs/ scary part is some of the diebold garbage would have still been in use this USA election.	Nov 09 15:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Some Voting Machines Still Have Decade-Old Vulnerabilities \| WIRED		Nov 09 15:10
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oiaohm	Yes and even old broken stuff as well.	Nov 09 15:11
kingoffrance	i havent followed it but yes it seems it was renamed dominion	Nov 09 15:12
MinceR	so you can see how worried cheeto hitler was about fraud	Nov 09 15:13
MinceR	i thought it was renamed to "premiere" or something like that	Nov 09 15:13
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oiaohm	The Nazi party is technically Far-right. Republicans USA are right-wing. Yes it does kind explain why trump at times sound like he was attempting to get Nazi like people on his side because he really was.	Nov 09 15:18
MinceR	technically politicalcompass.org found the nazi party to be closer to center	Nov 09 15:18
MinceR	probably because their ideology was a mishmash of whatever was trendy at the time	Nov 09 15:18
MinceR	including socialism	Nov 09 15:18
oiaohm	The funny part is Hitler has one rating and the Nazi party has a different one.	Nov 09 15:19
oiaohm	Hitler his own views were fairly central. The parties view was not.	Nov 09 15:20
MinceR	probably many individuals in the nazi party could have their own	Nov 09 15:20
XRevan86	oiaohm: His dreams of conquest were incredibly central.	Nov 09 15:21
XRevan86	Whose idea was to oppress Jews? Of our favourite centrist?	Nov 09 15:23
XRevan86	In my opinion this is a Putin / United Russia thing. They also have very different ratings.	Nov 09 15:24
oiaohm	XRevan86: that would be https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryanism	Nov 09 15:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| Aryanism - Wikipedia		Nov 09 15:24
oiaohm	The idea to of oppression if different classes of people predate Nazi. Just the Nazi were way more effective at it.	Nov 09 15:25
oiaohm	Yes horrible enough trump over the years said many things that are pure Aryanism.	Nov 09 15:29
kingoffrance	dominion for the homeland of course, you see :)	Nov 09 15:31
oiaohm	Trump play book was a very old playbook that us used very poorly.	Nov 09 15:32
oiaohm	Have to wonder if some of it is how poor history is taught.	Nov 09 15:33
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Chaekyung	https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmKp5p7WoAMHE1I?format=jpg&name=large	Nov 09 16:02
Chaekyung	What is Free Software? A talk on the Ohio Linux conference brought to you by .. Zoom	Nov 09 16:03
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schestowitz	lol	Nov 09 16:07
schestowitz	they show what it is now	Nov 09 16:07
MinceR	i'm surprised they didn't redefine "free software" like they redefined "end-to-end encryption"	Nov 09 16:07
schestowitz	https://youtu.be/miCPfjucsB8	Nov 09 16:08
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MinceR	(cat) (audio:important) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/09/17/be63678dd0a246ca.mp4	Nov 09 16:14
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MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/2008302	Nov 09 16:36
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DaemonFC[m]	MinceR I tell Mandy sometimes, "That sounds nice Mandy. Unfortunately, I have to get back to Earth before the Stargate closes. Mandy, chevrons are locking.".	Nov 09 17:09
MinceR	lol	Nov 09 17:09
DaemonFC[m]	I picked that up from Archer.	Nov 09 17:09
schestowitz	haha	Nov 09 17:09
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MinceR	(video) (audio:important) https://streamable.com/rq5oao	Nov 09 17:33
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schestowitz	"Hungarian-style authoritarianism"	Nov 09 17:34
schestowitz	OrBANANA Republic	Nov 09 17:34
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scientes	BANANANANANANANA	Nov 09 17:53
scientes	schestowitz, hungarian notation republic	Nov 09 17:53
MinceR	even worse	Nov 09 17:53
scientes	notation hungarian republic	Nov 09 17:53
scientes	oh wait that is reverse-polish	Nov 09 17:53
scientes	reverse-polish hungarian notation	Nov 09 17:54
MinceR	they removed "republic" from the official name anyway	Nov 09 17:56
MinceR	because it's a four-letter word to fideath	Nov 09 17:56
scientes	MinceR, did they add "oligarchy"?	Nov 09 17:57
scientes	:-)	Nov 09 17:57
MinceR	no, it's just "hungary" now	Nov 09 17:57
scientes	what about "Hungry and thirsty"?	Nov 09 17:58
scientes	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttBa4hg221o	Nov 09 17:59
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scientes	this looks pretty awesome	Nov 09 17:59
scientes	but I skipped Europe	Nov 09 17:59
scientes	for Georgia	Nov 09 17:59
scientes	those fish lenses are creepy	Nov 09 18:03
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DaemonFC[m]	I bought more markdown meat and dented cans at the store.	Nov 09 20:48
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DaemonFC[m]	I look at the cans pretty well and if they are just crushed or making popping noises or the seam is damaged I leave them alone.	Nov 09 20:49
DaemonFC[m]	Saved two dollars making dinner tonight though. About 25 percent.	Nov 09 20:50
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smnthermes	https://chuttenblog.wordpress.com/2020/11/05/data-science-is-hard-alsa-in-firefox/	Nov 09 21:41
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smnthermes	> So if you want to be counted: turn Telemetry on (it’s in the Preferences) and leave it on	Nov 09 21:41
smnthermes	Oh wow	Nov 09 21:42
MinceR	lol	Nov 09 21:57
MinceR	i have a better idea: replace it with crashium or a crashium-based browser	Nov 09 21:57
MinceR	> and hopefully began reporting Telemetry by default	Nov 09 22:00
MinceR	fuck you very much, chutten	Nov 09 22:00
MinceR	also fuck you, anthony jones	Nov 09 22:00
MinceR	"run poetteringaudio and/or spyware"	Nov 09 22:00
MinceR	"take back the web", my ass	Nov 09 22:00
MinceR	> Mozilla can only support a finite number of things.	Nov 09 22:02
MinceR	considering how they branched into tons of irrelevant shit, i'd say that number turns out to be 0	Nov 09 22:02
oiaohm	Also there is another side to that problem.	Nov 09 22:14
oiaohm	Distributions were not only patching out the Telemetry but doing patches in the ALSA section of firefox and not sending them upstream.	Nov 09 22:15
oiaohm	So Telemetry on end users was saying no one using and patches being submitted were saying no one using.	Nov 09 22:15
oiaohm	Its one of the reasons I get annoyed when I see distributions having patches on packages that have never been submitted upstream. Heck it fine it fails and has to be submitted a few times. That way the upstream knows the usage case exists.	Nov 09 22:16
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MinceR	(audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74ZsXR7ILWs	Nov 09 22:21
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schestowitz	[21:41] <smnthermes> > So if you want to be counted: turn Telemetry on (it’s in the Preferences) and leave it on	Nov 09 22:24
schestowitz	Yes, I said something to that effect when he published that	Nov 09 22:24
DaemonFC[m]	Hard pass.	Nov 09 22:25
schestowitz	they also used surveillance to crush rss support	Nov 09 22:25
schestowitz	so much for data and 'science'	Nov 09 22:25
schestowitz	self-selecting idiots	Nov 09 22:25
DaemonFC[m]	schestowitz This library and the contact tracing thing bothers me a lot.	Nov 09 22:25
DaemonFC[m]	Hear me out.	Nov 09 22:25
schestowitz	people who use rss are probably clever enough to leave "telemetry" OF	Nov 09 22:25
schestowitz	*OFF	Nov 09 22:25
schestowitz	DaemonFC[m]: ok, but I am very busy right now	Nov 09 22:26
XRevan86	MinceR: The ending's great.	Nov 09 22:26
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DaemonFC[m]	So, courts have repeatedly ruled that you have a Fourth Amendment right to privacy from the government and a Fifth Amendment right to not incriminate yourself when communicating with a government agency that can charge you with a crime or have you charged with one.	Nov 09 22:26
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XRevan86	MinceR: Except I'd pick Karelia, not Sweden, because Finland is a part of Russia or something.	Nov 09 22:27
MinceR	:>	Nov 09 22:27
DaemonFC[m]	So how does "mandatory" contact tracing work? It violates your right to privacy, freedom of movement, and to not incriminate yourself.	Nov 09 22:27
DaemonFC[m]	Since the Health Department can charge you with a crime under the health code, you have a Fifth Amendment right to hang up the phone or to tell them no thank you if they show up and want to talk	Nov 09 22:28
DaemonFC[m]	Same as if they were the police.	Nov 09 22:28
schestowitz	you don't get a 'phone'	Nov 09 22:28
schestowitz	simple	Nov 09 22:28
DaemonFC[m]	They can't put a bug on your phone's GPS without going to a court and getting a warrant specifically about you.	Nov 09 22:28
schestowitz	"can we trace you?"	Nov 09 22:28
XRevan86	https://media.karelia.pro/29/15e63dc8d7503c33e5e7ecb4a7653403.jpg there's a house being sold there, perfect	Nov 09 22:28
schestowitz	"sure"	Nov 09 22:28
schestowitz	buy me a Samsung S1000000	Nov 09 22:29
DaemonFC[m]	I mean, you have a constitutional right to tell them to go away and then hang up the phone.	Nov 09 22:29
DaemonFC[m]	Because they're government agents with law enforcement powers.	Nov 09 22:29
schestowitz	anyway,bbl	Nov 09 22:29
DaemonFC[m]	I wouldn't cooperate with contact tracing. Half of all Americans say they wouldn't.	Nov 09 22:30
DaemonFC[m]	So it's not a surprise that it's not doing anything except costing money.	Nov 09 22:30
DaemonFC[m]	That lawyer on the don't talk to the police video on youtube said he had a client who said the IRS is here and they just have a few questions about my taxes.	Nov 09 22:31
DaemonFC[m]	He said tell them you'll only talk in exchange for immunity.	Nov 09 22:32
DaemonFC[m]	And he never heard from them again.	Nov 09 22:32
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XRevan86	> The majority of Russian Karelians are Eastern Orthodox Christians. The majority of Finnish Karelians are Lutherans.	Nov 09 22:34
XRevan86	> Significant enclaves of Karelians exist in the Tver oblast of Russia, resettled after Russia's defeat in 1617 against Sweden — in order to escape the peril of forced conversion to Lutheranism in Swedish Karelia.	Nov 09 22:34
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: RISC-V based Allwinner chip to debut on $13 Linux hacker board http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144161#comment-27099 [https://pleroma.site/objects/dc34017d-ab44-4978-a22a-e41a918c098e]		Nov 09 22:34
XRevan86	Makes sense. If it's forced upon the people, then it must be true.	Nov 09 22:34
DaemonFC[m]	I might not vote for Governor Pritzker again.	Nov 09 22:34
XRevan86	the correct religion that is	Nov 09 22:34
XRevan86	I really like that aspect of the descendants of people who had their religion forced upon them.	Nov 09 22:35
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Dell Will Soon Enable Privacy Controls for Linux Hardware http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144078#comment-27098 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7ece8423-7a35-4d2d-8ebc-f8c396b87329]		Nov 09 22:35
DaemonFC[m]	I'm not happy with the Coronavirus restrictions. We're getting slaughtered put here just like red states, only the restrictions are hurting our economy and causing mass unemployment.	Nov 09 22:35
DaemonFC[m]	*out	Nov 09 22:35
XRevan86	Which is technically pretty much every single religious person out there.	Nov 09 22:35
DaemonFC[m]	The virus is out of control same as if we had no mitigation system to speak of.	Nov 09 22:36
DaemonFC[m]	I think Indiana handled his as well as is reasonably possible.	Nov 09 22:36
DaemonFC[m]	*this	Nov 09 22:36
DaemonFC[m]	Mask law. That's about it.	Nov 09 22:36
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: JumpDrive OS flashing tool now supports PineTab and 3GB PinePhone • 𝕋𝕦𝕩 𝕄𝕒𝕔𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕖𝕤 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144182 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a1ec6548-8137-41de-ba88-e8c570c4cc1b]		Nov 09 22:37
DaemonFC[m]	The nursing group mom is in on Facebook, nobody is getting he vaccine. None of them trust it.	Nov 09 22:38
DaemonFC[m]	I don't trust it.	Nov 09 22:38
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Top 6 Tiny Linux Distributions One Must Try • 𝕋𝕦𝕩 𝕄𝕒𝕔𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕖𝕤 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144183 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e9075296-337b-400a-85b3-5bcdc3f7bd83]		Nov 09 22:38
DaemonFC[m]	Biden is locked into a system where the virus is full tilt out of control and we're 10 months in on a commitment for a dodgy vaccine that Trump was hoping to steal the election with.	Nov 09 22:38
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Launching IPFire on Exoscale • 𝕋𝕦𝕩 𝕄𝕒𝕔𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕖𝕤 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144184 [https://pleroma.site/objects/1ea6a04d-300f-439c-8838-1a7c371ebddb]		Nov 09 22:39
DaemonFC[m]	I think we need to extend Biden a great deal of patience considering his predecessor's stance that his golfing was more important and just throw the schools open and send the little blighters back in there.	Nov 09 22:40
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Optimized Compiler Builds Are Well Worth It For Intel Tiger Lake http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144185 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ebbbbbaa-6d2f-4a21-9fc8-15ba5d745b80]		Nov 09 22:41
tr_guest\|18	why IPFS and not Freenet?	Nov 09 22:41
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers • 𝕋𝕦𝕩 𝕄𝕒𝕔𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕖𝕤 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144186 [https://pleroma.site/objects/bbf7fed6-768a-47f2-a9f5-1ee063f64d1f]		Nov 09 22:42
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schestowitz	tr_guest\|18: hi	Nov 09 22:46
schestowitz	we can add freenet I suppose	Nov 09 22:46
schestowitz	have not looked into it, we rely on skilled people who can help setup	Nov 09 22:47
schestowitz	there's also gopher, gnunet etc.	Nov 09 22:47
schestowitz	countless options, some a tiny niche	Nov 09 22:47
schestowitz	ipfs gives us at least _one_ fallback that's d-web	Nov 09 22:47
schestowitz	DaemonFC[m]: I got complaining emails about your Biden ravings	Nov 09 22:48
schestowitz	calling you RIAAn	Nov 09 22:48
schestowitz	but not "a Ryan"	Nov 09 22:48
schestowitz	we have also published a bunch of things inc. http://techrights.org/2020/11/09/the-pardon-train/	Nov 09 22:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| But at Least He’s Not Donald Trump or George Bush… \| Techrights		Nov 09 22:48
schestowitz	Biden is no ally of ours	Nov 09 22:48
schestowitz	I'm glad he'll replace Trump	Nov 09 22:48
schestowitz	but I don't like or trust him	Nov 09 22:49
schestowitz	they cheated proper candidates	Nov 09 22:49
schestowitz	Mayor and Bloomberg (the OTHER Mayor) rigged it for Biden	Nov 09 22:49
schestowitz	by dropping out and urging supporters, after wasting lots of their corporate money, to back Biden	Nov 09 22:49
schestowitz	so it was sort of rigged all along	Nov 09 22:49
schestowitz	money BUYS the presidential candidates	Nov 09 22:50
schestowitz	so nothing is changing	Nov 09 22:50
schestowitz	under Biden the depression will deepen	Nov 09 22:50
schestowitz	not really his fault that Trump did nothing re corona	Nov 09 22:50
schestowitz	like Obama dealt with Bush wars and financial collapse	Nov 09 22:50
XRevan86	The US democracy hinges on the two parties doing the right thing, but they're not actually accountable to much by law.	Nov 09 22:50
schestowitz	Your country is still in the ditch, unless you're one of the Bloombergs and Gateses	Nov 09 22:50
schestowitz	to them it's FANTASTIC	Nov 09 22:50
schestowitz	The Murican Dream	Nov 09 22:51
schestowitz	The workers will get cheaper and easier for them to exploit	Nov 09 22:51
schestowitz	XRevan86: sort of like Russia, but different	Nov 09 22:51
schestowitz	In Russia I hardly hear about "two parties"	Nov 09 22:51
schestowitz	there's just benevolent dictator for life	Nov 09 22:52
schestowitz	and a bunch of satellite "parties"	Nov 09 22:52
schestowitz	which you can identify by tracking political arrests	Nov 09 22:52
XRevan86	schestowitz: There's The Party, the spoiler parties, the quasi-opposition and the outlaws.	Nov 09 22:52
schestowitz	We have about 5 "major" parties	Nov 09 22:52
schestowitz	inc. the local ones like Welsh and Scottish	Nov 09 22:53
schestowitz	XRevan86: so we still have "kings"	Nov 09 22:53
schestowitz	we still have a queen, formally	Nov 09 22:53
XRevan86	United Russia, e.g. The Growth Party, e.g. the Communist Party, e.g. the Russia of the Future Party	Nov 09 22:53
schestowitz	but tbh, seeing MinceR's absurdistan, trumpland and Russia I'm relieved we're nowhere as bad, for now...	Nov 09 22:53
schestowitz	No active groups calling for armed revolution like FARC or NPA either	Nov 09 22:54
schestowitz	The US still has Trump backers	Nov 09 22:54
schestowitz	they will still be aggressive and now feel blessed by "former President"	Nov 09 22:54
XRevan86	schestowitz: Still FPTP, which is probably how the tories manage to stay afloat.	Nov 09 22:55
schestowitz	Ariadne should still pursue migration to .nl imho	Nov 09 22:55
schestowitz	the Trumpsters are still there	Nov 09 22:55
XRevan86	Because, as always, the conservatives are consolidated and loyal	Nov 09 22:55
schestowitz	and they're not hiding their faces, physically or metaphorically	Nov 09 22:55
schestowitz	they feel "mainstream" now, "quiet majority"	Nov 09 22:55
XRevan86	which FPTP considers the winning strategy	Nov 09 22:55
schestowitz	Fiel protocol transfer protocol	Nov 09 22:56
XRevan86	First-past-the-post voting	Nov 09 22:56
schestowitz	:-)	Nov 09 22:56
schestowitz	brb	Nov 09 22:56
schestowitz	need to check up on something	Nov 09 22:56
schestowitz	But at Least He's Not Donald #Trump or #GeorgeBush ... http://techrights.org/2020/11/09/the-pardon-train/ #biden #us #liberty	Nov 09 22:56
schestowitz	Inside the #EPO During Corona: A New Series About the European Patent Office During European Lock-downs http://techrights.org/2020/11/09/inside-the-epo-lock-downs/ #covid19 #europe #patents #swpats	Nov 09 22:57
schestowitz	Inside the EPO During Corona: The Management of the European #Patent Office Was (Fore)Warned About Exploiting a Public Health Crisis http://techrights.org/2020/11/09/health-crisis-exploited-to-harm-health/ #covid19 #europe #patents #swpats	Nov 09 22:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| But at Least He’s Not Donald Trump or George Bush… \| Techrights		Nov 09 22:57
schestowitz		Nov 09 22:57
schestowitz	Inside the #EPO During Corona: Like #BenoîtBattistelli #AntónioCampinos Leaves Out Staff Representation Out of Consultation Regarding Unprecedented #Health Crisis Which Impacts Staff http://techrights.org/2020/11/09/no-epo-leadership/	Nov 09 22:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Inside the EPO During Corona: A New Series About the European Patent Office During European Lock-downs \| Techrights		Nov 09 22:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Inside the EPO During Corona: The Management of the European Patent Office Was (Fore)Warned About Exploiting a Public Health Crisis \| Techrights		Nov 09 22:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Inside the EPO During Corona: Like Benoît Battistelli, António Campinos Leaves Out Staff Representation Out of Consultation Regarding Unprecedented Health Crisis Which Impacts Staff \| Techrights		Nov 09 22:57
XRevan86	It's a bit of an idée fixe for me, because it's just one basic aspect that affects how democracy works a very big lot.	Nov 09 22:57
schestowitz	(might increasingly publish articles anonymously in months to come, it's better that way)	Nov 09 22:57
XRevan86	without voter fraud, roundabouts or other specifics	Nov 09 22:58
XRevan86	or voter suppression	Nov 09 22:59
XRevan86	which is what Trump's desperately trying to do post-factum right now	Nov 09 23:00
XRevan86	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carousel_voting#In_Russia	Nov 09 23:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| Carousel voting - Wikipedia		Nov 09 23:01
XRevan86	"According to critics, the activity has been allegedly used in Russia since Vladimir Putin came to power in 2000."	Nov 09 23:01
XRevan86	"According to critics", "allegedly" – oh my god	Nov 09 23:01
oiaohm	schestowitz: tr_guest\|18: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peer-to-peer_web_hosting There are not really many choices freenet is lowest performing. The maintained are Freenet, IPFS, Zeronet and dat. Osiris, Maelstrom and Blockstack are basically dead. peerweb.site is the new on on the block don't know if that will last or not.	Nov 09 23:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| Peer-to-peer web hosting - Wikipedia		Nov 09 23:02
DaemonFC[m]	I got a message on Reddit.	Nov 09 23:03
DaemonFC[m]	From someone in Romania.	Nov 09 23:03
*DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/HcqXWApURIRulPfIOylTUKYr/message.txt >		Nov 09 23:03
DaemonFC[m]	I replied,	Nov 09 23:06
XRevan86	https://facebook.com/nikol.pashinyan/posts/2807204759599901 oh, it's over	Nov 09 23:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-m.facebook.com \| Սիրելի հայրենակիցներ, քույրեր եւ... - Nikol Pashinyan / Նիկոլ Փաշինյան \| Facebook		Nov 09 23:06
*DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/gUsGkcRSkdsHFdHFLGCkShqZ/message.txt >		Nov 09 23:06
DaemonFC[m]	I was looking at those robot vacuum cleaner things.	Nov 09 23:08
DaemonFC[m]	They still seem to be a complete waste of money.	Nov 09 23:09
oiaohm	DaemonFC[m]: that yogo issue is part them and part Intel® Rapid Storage Technology. Intel never has implemented in Linux the means to use the Intel RST form where the ssd is a cache to the harddrive.	Nov 09 23:09
oiaohm	or cache to other things.	Nov 09 23:09
DaemonFC[m]	You have to clean them out. They don't clean carpet well. They can throw themselves down the stairs and run over dog shit and smear it everywhere they go.	Nov 09 23:09
DaemonFC[m]	All for just $400 wow.	Nov 09 23:09
oiaohm	DaemonFC[m]: yes removing the direct storage access was a intel recomendation.	Nov 09 23:10
oiaohm	DaemonFC[m]: Lenovo and Intel created mess. There are other examples where it was only Lenovo.	Nov 09 23:11
DaemonFC[m]	The SSD isn't caching anything.	Nov 09 23:12
DaemonFC[m]	There's no hard disk.	Nov 09 23:12
schestowitz	[23:09] <DaemonFC[m]> They still seem to be a complete waste of money.	Nov 09 23:16
oiaohm	Hidden shader cache and other things.	Nov 09 23:16
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schestowitz	If your money and time are worthless you get "Smart"	Nov 09 23:16
schestowitz	and then notifications take up all your time	Nov 09 23:16
schestowitz	(and money)	Nov 09 23:16
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schestowitz	the old and traditional way might not impress your fake 'friends'	Nov 09 23:16
oiaohm	DaemonFC[m]: basically there is a complete mode/modes of the Intel RST Linux kernel does not support and windows fresh of disc does not support.	Nov 09 23:16
schestowitz	but you don't get industrial-grade robots	Nov 09 23:17
schestowitz	even billionaires employ maids and such	Nov 09 23:17
schestowitz	"housekeepers"	Nov 09 23:17
schestowitz	not robots	Nov 09 23:17
schestowitz	like a 2-pound piece of plastic and metal	Nov 09 23:17
schestowitz	that 'cleans'... whatever.	Nov 09 23:17
oiaohm	DaemonFC[m]: of course those modes are not documented by Intel either so third parties cannot write implementations.	Nov 09 23:18
oiaohm	Its a two to tango thing.	Nov 09 23:18
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XRevan86	https://meduza.io/en/news/2020/11/10/armenian-prime-minister-announces-painful-russia-brokered-truce-with-azerbaijan-in-nagorno-karabakh instead of Facebook in Armenian above	Nov 09 23:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io \| NO TITLE		Nov 09 23:23
XRevan86	https://youtu.be/JbVFEkaXN98 and now this is happening	Nov 09 23:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ՈՒՂԻՂ. Ի՞նչ է կատարվում Կառավարության դիմաց - YouTube		Nov 09 23:23
XRevan86	Protests in Armenia	Nov 09 23:23
schestowitz	vZS1: http://anweshadas.in/how-to-use-yubikey-or-any-gpg-smartcard-in-thunderbird-78/	Nov 09 23:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-anweshadas.in \| How to use Yubikey or any GPG smartcard in Thunderbird 78		Nov 09 23:25
schestowitz	just now	Nov 09 23:25
vZS1	Lovely	Nov 09 23:27
vZS1	I've noticed something of much concern while I was doing some digging through TR coverage on a topic. I'll send you an email about it.	Nov 09 23:29
schestowitz	cheers	Nov 09 23:29
vZS1	Too tired now though	Nov 09 23:29
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: What is a System-on-Chip (SoC), and Why Do We Care if They are Open Source? • 𝕋𝕦𝕩 𝕄𝕒𝕔𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕖𝕤 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144187 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ad640297-a2d3-4dad-9f27-590d5d022647]		Nov 09 23:30
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Today’s #HowTos \| #UNIX • 𝕋𝕦𝕩 𝕄𝕒𝕔𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕖𝕤 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144188 [https://pleroma.site/objects/97a6d2c9-7a32-43a9-9b3c-aa56de3c256d]		Nov 09 23:34
schestowitz	https://fedoramagazine.org/getting-started-with-stratis-encryption/	Nov 09 23:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoramagazine.org \| Getting started with Stratis encryption - Fedora Magazine		Nov 09 23:36
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: LiVES Video Editor 3.2.0 Released with Tons of New Features [PPA] • 𝕋𝕦𝕩 𝕄𝕒𝕔𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕖𝕤 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144189 [https://pleroma.site/objects/effe6785-3b10-4afd-b2a5-974d6678e6f9]		Nov 09 23:42
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Audiocasts/Shows: Brodie Robertson, This Week in Linux,L inux in the Ham Shack, and Python Bytes Podcast • 𝕋𝕦𝕩 𝕄𝕒𝕔𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕖𝕤 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144190 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a462338c-3a1b-41d6-924d-95984d59ee8c]		Nov 09 23:44
schestowitz	from mozilla to bezos https://www.bitstampede.com/2020/11/09/amazon-wins-sheppy/	Nov 09 23:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bitstampede.com \| Amazon Wins Sheppy – Bit Stampede		Nov 09 23:46
MinceR	https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/07/02/3e588e28952ad399.jpg	Nov 09 23:47
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: Juno Computers Neptune 15, Tenderfoot Tactics, Civilization VI, FlightGear and Counter-Strike • 𝕋𝕦𝕩 𝕄𝕒𝕔𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕖𝕤 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144192 [https://pleroma.site/objects/1c20ed54-45c9-4aca-b845-95e75bf9fa2f]		Nov 09 23:53
schestowitz	MinceR: 100-milligram meteor	Nov 09 23:54
MinceR	:>	Nov 09 23:55
MinceR	at relativistic speed	Nov 09 23:55
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Meet Giara, a New #Reddit App for the Linux Desktop, Written in GTK • 𝕋𝕦𝕩 𝕄𝕒𝕔𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕖𝕤 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144191 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #News by @MariusNestor [https://pleroma.site/objects/6cd031f3-1269-45e5-809f-6ae850db9193]		Nov 09 23:56
schestowitz	comets can cut deep hole through soil (or people)	Nov 09 23:56
schestowitz	i'd like to hear what happened to people hit directly by comets	Nov 09 23:57
schestowitz	(but not to see it)	Nov 09 23:57
schestowitz	"Space is beautiful! Just get out of its fucking way, mannnnn!"	Nov 09 23:57
DaemonFC[m]	CNN: President Trump is beginning to come to grips with the reality that he will lose the election, a Trump adviser said based on conversations inside the campaign and with the President.	Nov 09 23:58
DaemonFC[m]	Trump sees a “path to losing,” the adviser said.	Nov 09 23:58
DaemonFC[m]	He has already begun to discuss with aides the prospect of running in 2024, as CNN reported last week.	Nov 09 23:58
schestowitz	He is running already	Nov 09 23:58
schestowitz	running	Nov 09 23:58
schestowitz	"run, Trump, run"	Nov 09 23:58
schestowitz	to Finland	Nov 09 23:58
schestowitz	https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/19/finns-aghast-that-trump-could-think-their-country-is-part-of-russia	Nov 09 23:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com \| Finns aghast that Trump could think their country is part of Russia \| US news \| The Guardian		Nov 09 23:59
DaemonFC[m]	Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, and Acceptance.	Nov 09 23:59
schestowitz	divorce also	Nov 09 23:59

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