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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: LazPaint – Raster Image Editor Similar to Paint.Net / PaintBrush http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143053 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c07f9a67-314d-4a42-bb99-266e386a27af]Oct 10 00:02
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Salsa CI now includes i386 build support http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143054 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ed2f340d-d171-480e-9c24-eab89c1badfd]Oct 10 00:17
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: IBM/Red Hat Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143055 [https://pleroma.site/objects/19f30ff1-a8ed-4847-a42a-aeb849121d98]Oct 10 00:32
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Canonical/Ubuntu News: LXD Ubuntu Appliance, Mark Shuttleworth at OIS, Ubuntu Community Council and UbuntuDDE Remix 20.10 Groovy Beta http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143056 [https://pleroma.site/objects/880708fa-a22b-4cef-8bd2-a5c78861d900]Oct 10 00:40
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: Amnesia: Rebirth, Sonic and ScummVM http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143057 [https://pleroma.site/objects/17766414-a430-4dfb-a587-b9bc7a2acced]Oct 10 00:43
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Open Hardware and Devices: Banana Pi, Xilinx, Arduino Uno. Jetson http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143058 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4b5752fa-9e9e-40c3-9fb4-fa1929de538d]Oct 10 00:46
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Software: FFmpeg, Ranger and Istio http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143059 [https://pleroma.site/objects/b2543d3e-bf31-421f-8338-b4fb8d4d2e8b]Oct 10 00:49
XRevan86https://pleroma.site/notice/A006k2jpfgV9ApeSH2 "PostgreSQL is available under an open-source license while MySQL has its source code open-sourced to the public under the GNU license, and can best be described as a community-driven DBMS system."Oct 10 00:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.siteOct 10 00:55
XRevan86after this bit I'm going to trust this article completelyOct 10 00:55
XRevan86> And while PostgreSQL supports Materialized Views, PostgreSQL doesn’t support Materialized Views.Oct 10 00:56
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Kernel: EXT4, DSA, NTFS and RTX 3080 Support http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143060 [https://pleroma.site/objects/abe058a4-475f-4d46-82ff-3b91c05d79f7]Oct 10 00:56
XRevan86schestowitz: How did that end up in the feed?Oct 10 00:57
schestowitzodd way of explaining bsd licenceOct 10 00:57
schestowitzXRevan86: good luck finding articlesOct 10 00:57
schestowitzit's getting hardOct 10 00:57
schestowitzthe "open source" news are a jokeOct 10 00:57
schestowitzlots of openwashingOct 10 00:58
schestowitzgithub, openwashing, press releases, pure crapOct 10 00:58
schestowitzIt's a fight against the clock as decent sites perish tbhOct 10 00:58
schestowitznot trying to brag about my sites or anything, just pointing out that proper journalism in tech is now in perilOct 10 00:59
schestowitzyou end up with people copy-pasting stuff from wikipedia -- stuff they don't understand -- to make 'articles'Oct 10 00:59
schestowitz[23:38] [Notice] -viera to #techrights- Tux Machines: Unix vs Linux – Key Differences You Need To Know http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143049 [https://pleroma.site/objects/5b8d9369-a8c7-41fa-80a1-5dd9d2b2e270]Oct 10 00:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Unix vs Linux – Key Differences You Need To Know | Tux MachinesOct 10 00:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.siteOct 10 00:59
schestowitzThis one pretends, more or less, that gnu does not existOct 10 00:59
schestowitzit mentions it later, but not properly Oct 10 01:00
schestowitzas if it's just a bunch of utils added to linux laterOct 10 01:00
schestowitzwhen it fact it was linux behind drop-in for gnuOct 10 01:00
XRevan86schestowitz: The way it talks about UNIX is a clear indicator the author here also doesn't know what they're talking about.Oct 10 01:00
XRevan86> PostgreSQL is perfect for complex applications dealing with large volumes of data, while MySQL is suitable for simple web applications or any application that requires a simple schema design.Oct 10 01:02
XRevan86Like this bitOct 10 01:02
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Wine 5.19 Is Released With 27 Bug-Fixes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143048#comment-26661 [https://pleroma.site/objects/5dc78f6e-e083-4a04-a8e2-b6742c32b652]Oct 10 01:02
XRevan86InnoDB is in places stronger for large datasets than PostgreSQL.Oct 10 01:02
schestowitzchaekyung has just covered wine, had to add some sexually suggestive anime ^^^^, XRevan86Oct 10 01:03
XRevan86"While PostgreSQL is completely ACID compliant, MySQL is partially ACID compliant." – pretty much on a par (with InnoDB, of course)Oct 10 01:03
schestowitzlike I said...Oct 10 01:04
schestowitzprobably some person who knows roboticsOct 10 01:04
schestowitzand looked up wikipedia for mysql and psqlOct 10 01:04
schestowitzand then dropped some bits from comparatorsOct 10 01:04
schestowitzmaybe you can even find copy-pasted phrased fused together in thereOct 10 01:04
XRevan86What's even the point? To get clicks?Oct 10 01:04
schestowitzmaybeOct 10 01:05
schestowitzseems like a site for roboticsOct 10 01:05
schestowitzand they want to mentiond dbs of interestOct 10 01:05
schestowitz*mentionOct 10 01:05
schestowitztbh, robotics is general-purposeOct 10 01:05
schestowitznothing inherent in the DB that makes one more 'robotics-friendly' than the otherOct 10 01:05
schestowitzscale? maybeOct 10 01:06
XRevan86https://roboticsandautomationnews.com/2020/09/30/what-is-the-effect-of-artificial-intelligence-on-vpn-technology/36896/ jeezOct 10 01:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-roboticsandautomationnews.com | What is the Effect of Artificial Intelligence on VPN Technology?Oct 10 01:06
schestowitzbut it's not an application of robotics 'thing'Oct 10 01:06
schestowitzlots of buzzwordsOct 10 01:06
XRevan86> In essence, artificial intelligence is all about a machine’s ability to think and reason like a human being.Oct 10 01:06
XRevan86*looks at a banana* 20% pineapple, 30% cup of tea, 68% cat, 70% bananaOct 10 01:07
schestowitzwell, machine learningOct 10 01:07
schestowitzimage analysis/understadingOct 10 01:07
schestowitzsegmentation etc.Oct 10 01:07
schestowitzI looked up some old colleagues yesterdayOct 10 01:08
schestowitzsome are retired nowOct 10 01:08
XRevan86"Artificial intelligence is all about reducing human error" – this bitOct 10 01:08
schestowitzthe field has become seemingly unexcited as wellOct 10 01:08
schestowitzit's not "about" that at allOct 10 01:08
schestowitzit might in practice do thisOct 10 01:08
schestowitzit's not "all about it"Oct 10 01:08
XRevan86it's not just "about", it's "all about" :)Oct 10 01:08
MinceRwell, skynet certainly had a nice method of reducing human errorOct 10 01:08
schestowitzmaybe someone wrote it with Carlsberg on the sideOct 10 01:09
XRevan86So that's the level of this website.Oct 10 01:09
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schestowitzMinceR: remove human, remove errorOct 10 01:09
MinceRexactlyOct 10 01:09
schestowitzXRevan86: maybe Google News should de-index itOct 10 01:09
schestowitzuntil they deal with their Carlsberg issue :-)Oct 10 01:10
XRevan86Carlsberg?Oct 10 01:10
schestowitzI am going to start working on bill-gates-deposition-part-10Oct 10 01:10
schestowitz[01:09] <schestowitz> maybe someone wrote it with Carlsberg on the side\Oct 10 01:10
XRevan86Still don't get it.Oct 10 01:10
schestowitzit's like typing lots of shiteOct 10 01:10
schestowitzwithout even thinkingOct 10 01:10
schestowitzyou have a keyboard and you start banging it writing random thoughts that are crapOct 10 01:11
schestowitzlike DaemonFC[m] ;-)Oct 10 01:11
schestowitzand likely unrelated to the actual forum of discussion topicOct 10 01:11
XRevan86Why Carlsberg though? Is it like "hold my beer"?Oct 10 01:11
schestowitztechrights is "all about" Ryan's apartment huntOct 10 01:11
schestowitzXRevan86: I thought of EPOOct 10 01:12
schestowitzthere's a Carlsberg scandal thereOct 10 01:12
schestowitzbarley patentsOct 10 01:12
schestowitzEPsOct 10 01:12
DaemonFC[m]<MinceR "well, skynet certainly had a nic"> Yeah, until it got blown up in most timelines. Oct 10 01:13
XRevan86DaemonFC[m] beats with volume.Oct 10 01:13
schestowitzrageposting ;-)Oct 10 01:15
MinceRwell, yeahOct 10 01:19
DaemonFC[m]If I can get one landlord to give me a goddamned break.Oct 10 01:26
DaemonFC[m]They act like I'm the fucking Zodiac Killer over a misdemeanor that I didn't even get convicted of last year.Oct 10 01:26
schestowitzimagine if you were also an ethnic minorityOct 10 01:27
schestowitzwhen you're Irish descent they might say, "oh, just a naughty boy"Oct 10 01:28
schestowitzif you're black they think "gang member"Oct 10 01:28
schestowitzso you're still better off than mostOct 10 01:28
DaemonFC[m]JesusOct 10 01:28
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: we don't know each other >in person<; if we did, I'd write a reference for youOct 10 01:28
DaemonFC[m]You know, I'm talking to landlords that rent to black and mexican people. I mean, I don't care anymore. I really don't.Oct 10 01:29
DaemonFC[m]They can name a deposit, I'll pay it.Oct 10 01:29
DaemonFC[m]It's still much less of a disaster than all those credit card accounts, the medical bills, and that damned car. Oct 10 01:29
DaemonFC[m]<schestowitz "when you're Irish descent they m"> I lost my temper for a few minutes and it wasn't a hell of a lot more than that.Oct 10 01:30
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: You lost temper?Oct 10 01:31
DaemonFC[m]And it led to a once in a lifetime disaster that's basically over, and it was just enough to slime me and make it harder to find an apartment.Oct 10 01:31
DaemonFC[m]XRevan86: Yeah, John flipped on me the minute he got the opportunity to. He didn't have to. He could have said it's not as bad as it looks when the cops got there. Nope. He let them slap me in handcuffs and haul me down to the booking station.Oct 10 01:33
DaemonFC[m]He deserves whatever he gets. Oct 10 01:33
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DaemonFC[m]I was thinking about buying an external DVD drive.Oct 10 01:40
DaemonFC[m]Just rip CDs myself from the library.Oct 10 01:40
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schestowitzwhy use dvd?Oct 10 01:44
schestowitzyou can get a large external storage deviceOct 10 01:44
schestowitzssd of magneticOct 10 01:44
schestowitz(or)Oct 10 01:44
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, but I'm trying to figure out how to do without home internet.Oct 10 01:44
DaemonFC[m]The library has tons of stuff and it's all current.Oct 10 01:45
DaemonFC[m]I agree with GLaDOS here. It's simple really. Trim the fat.Oct 10 01:45
DaemonFC[m]Find what you don't really need and get it out of your life.Oct 10 01:45
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: this past week techrights served over 800gb of trafficOct 10 01:46
schestowitzthat's like a 3tb drive a monthOct 10 01:46
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I might call Comcast and see if they'll still let me use my old 8x4 DOCSIS 3 modem.Oct 10 01:46
schestowitzdvd is obsoleteOct 10 01:46
schestowitzit's for old media cartel distributionOct 10 01:46
DaemonFC[m]I think it would still work okay on their basic tier and honestly why do you need faster than that?Oct 10 01:46
XRevan86dvd is nicheOct 10 01:47
DaemonFC[m]I'm paying for the library whether I use it or not.Oct 10 01:47
schestowitzcheap/low-cost optical media with one slabOct 10 01:47
DaemonFC[m]Taxes.Oct 10 01:47
schestowitzfor throw-away movie in a plastic boxOct 10 01:47
schestowitzwhich you probably do not needOct 10 01:47
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I got Jorge with that one, when I went to pay my bill today.Oct 10 01:47
schestowitzimagine Universal giving you a 800GB drive with 40 movies on itOct 10 01:47
schestowitzfor a price like $100Oct 10 01:47
DaemonFC[m]I said, "So if I switch between weekly and monthly, we're good right. No taxes?".Oct 10 01:47
schestowitznow, that would be better in so many ways... for you, not for themOct 10 01:48
DaemonFC[m]He said, "No taxes." I said, "Oh good, because despite the old Donald Duck cartoon from World War 2, taxes do not, in fact, defeat the Axis.".Oct 10 01:48
schestowitzwhen you're done you can send it back to them for reuseOct 10 01:48
DaemonFC[m]Well, they can't stop the library from lending DVDs out for free to whoever wants to watch them.Oct 10 01:49
DaemonFC[m]Once the library purchases it, they can loan it to whoever they want. The Supreme Court got that one right, at least.Oct 10 01:49
DaemonFC[m]The copyright people didn't even want that.Oct 10 01:49
sweetypie87hello everyoneOct 10 01:51
XRevan86sweetypie87: hi thereOct 10 01:51
DaemonFC[m]I hated Chicago. You had to pay $100 a month to just park your car somewhere. It's insane. Space is that much of a premium there.Oct 10 01:52
sweetypie87hi XRevan86 Oct 10 01:52
sweetypie87I am in the same situation. I would love to limit internet usage Oct 10 01:52
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: http://techrights.org/2020/10/09/bill-gates-deposition-part-10/Oct 10 01:54
schestowitzcan you read with me?Oct 10 01:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bill Gates Deposition: The Monopoly Abuse and the Lies Gates Would Rather You Never Saw | TechrightsOct 10 01:54
schestowitzpublished 10 secs agoOct 10 01:54
schestowitzfor proofreadingOct 10 01:55
XRevan86"about COVID-19 response" – theOct 10 01:56
schestowitzrightOct 10 01:56
XRevan86"countless (perhaps hundreds) of lies" – countless lies, hundreds of lies…Oct 10 01:57
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XRevan86"at the courtroom" – English prepositions are a tricky subject for me which I mostly have to memorise, but here it's "in the room"Oct 10 01:58
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DaemonFC[m]"a chronic liar whom judges condemned and sternly warned about (sociopathic tendencies and God complex)"Oct 10 01:59
DaemonFC[m]Might want to just break that off into its own sentence.Oct 10 01:59
DaemonFC[m]"at present. There’s a lot to be"Oct 10 01:59
DaemonFC[m]You want a new line there to break those up.Oct 10 02:00
schestowitz[01:59] <DaemonFC[m]> "a chronic liar whom judges condemned and sternly warned about (sociopathic tendencies and God complex)"Oct 10 02:00
schestowitzI try to keep summaries a single sentence alwaysOct 10 02:01
DaemonFC[m]"The judges were amused by the endless lying by Mr. Gates; at least one ended up laughing at the courtroom."Oct 10 02:01
DaemonFC[m]Nothing wrong there. Just wow.Oct 10 02:01
DaemonFC[m]If you're not a billionaire and the judge catches you lying, watch out.Oct 10 02:01
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: There's one thing wrong there: a preposition.Oct 10 02:01
XRevan86Why am I the one who noticed that? :)Oct 10 02:01
DaemonFC[m]Good question.Oct 10 02:02
DaemonFC[m]I think you correct Putin's speeches so it looks like he knows where he is. Oct 10 02:02
schestowitz[02:01] <XRevan86> Why am I the one who noticed that? :)Oct 10 02:02
schestowitzI changed to "in", also incorporated all of DaemonFC[m]'s suggestionsOct 10 02:02
schestowitznext week we do transcriptsOct 10 02:02
schestowitzthe timing seems right!Oct 10 02:03
DaemonFC[m]"widely available online). This is especially important "Oct 10 02:04
DaemonFC[m]Again, crammed.Oct 10 02:04
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: I am not impudent enoughOct 10 02:05
XRevan86Interviews with Putin are quite something, because, apparently to seem more human-like, he's having no respect even for his own pet-journalists.Oct 10 02:06
schestowitzwatch the videoOct 10 02:07
schestowitzabout ballmer's emailOct 10 02:07
schestowitzgates is a demented liarOct 10 02:08
schestowitzor pretending to beOct 10 02:08
schestowitzit's painful to watchOct 10 02:08
schestowitz[02:04] <DaemonFC[m]> "widely available online). This is especially important "Oct 10 02:09
schestowitzsplit into two parasOct 10 02:09
schestowitzif that's what you meantOct 10 02:09
XRevan86schestowitz: It is indeed painful to watch. I can see Gates trying to empthasise a technicality.Oct 10 02:11
XRevan86that a quote of a previous email in a new e-mail is part of the e-mail message and not a re-send of a previous e-mailOct 10 02:12
XRevan86I don't want to watch a whole hour of it, but I do wonder why it's so important to him.Oct 10 02:12
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/19168350Oct 10 02:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #covid19 is nothing, it's not happening, it's just a cough, says the Orange One despite two 9/11s happening in the US since he revealed he had tested positive for it. US 8th most deadly per capita for it, worldwide. 9/11... Bush: just a cough. Oct 10 02:14
schestowitz[02:11] <XRevan86> schestowitz: It is indeed painful to watch. I can see Gates trying to empthasise a technicality.Oct 10 02:14
schestowitzanything to waste timeOct 10 02:14
schestowitzand try to humiliate the intelligence of the rather technical interrogatorOct 10 02:14
schestowitz[02:12] <XRevan86> I don't want to watch a whole hour of it, but I do wonder why it's so important to him.Oct 10 02:15
schestowitzit shows his egoOct 10 02:15
XRevan86schestowitz: I think what he tried to do is remove authenticity from that.Oct 10 02:15
schestowitzI saw many more examples of it in prior partOct 10 02:15
schestowitzlike he's trying to shame and mock BoiesOct 10 02:15
schestowitzi think it's him at this stageOct 10 02:15
XRevan86Like it's not actually his e-mail that he sent, it's some quote.Oct 10 02:15
schestowitzthe video starts with him explaining to the little prep he's being questioned, it's not a debateOct 10 02:16
XRevan86But then the interrogator could just say "did you write an e-mail with these exact words" and get a positive answer. Down go the curtains.Oct 10 02:16
schestowitzXRevan86: yes, that too, but that would not hold water, would it?Oct 10 02:16
schestowitzand later when assessed by a judge he'd just see a little perp lying and acting all arrogantOct 10 02:17
schestowitzXRevan86: Gates would not answerOct 10 02:17
schestowitzhe'd rock for a minuteOct 10 02:17
XRevan86It's not like he can actually throw plausible deniability at it.Oct 10 02:17
schestowitzand then ask a questionOct 10 02:17
schestowitzor change the questionOct 10 02:17
schestowitzthere's like 15 hours of footageOct 10 02:18
schestowitzand you can see after only minutes they deal with a dangerous psychopath/sociopathOct 10 02:18
schestowitzeven his dead dad (died last month) could not get along with him too wellOct 10 02:18
schestowitzthrew water in the boy's faceOct 10 02:18
schestowitzThese tapes are textbook case study in dealing with maniacsOct 10 02:19
schestowitzyou're quipped with evidence of wrongdoingOct 10 02:19
schestowitzand this is how they respondOct 10 02:19
schestowitztrying to paint themselves as victims of the law enforcerOct 10 02:19
schestowitzhe has not been grilled like that since... and I doubt anyone in politics anywhere in the world is sufficiently connected to have him interrogated againOct 10 02:20
schestowitzwe still don't know why Epstein died (not for sure)Oct 10 02:20
schestowitzI'm not suggesting it's gatesOct 10 02:20
schestowitzit could be a bunch of people speaking privately and arranging an assassinatiinOct 10 02:20
schestowitzas they all had shared concernsOct 10 02:21
MinceRgates could be one of those people :>Oct 10 02:21
schestowitzseems likelyOct 10 02:22
schestowitzthough we don't know why he was so pressed to whiten Jeffy's reputationOct 10 02:23
schestowitzwe just know he WASOct 10 02:23
schestowitzto the point of visiting him in prisonOct 10 02:23
schestowitzso importantOct 10 02:23
schestowitznothing better in his diaryOct 10 02:23
DaemonFC[m]Wow, Gates was unbelievably evasive.Oct 10 02:23
schestowitzvisit a sex trafficker Oct 10 02:23
schestowitzto discuss how to help himOct 10 02:23
DaemonFC[m]Arguing with the guy about lines and what "emails" meant. Oct 10 02:23
schestowitzwe don't know if inline or attachmentOct 10 02:24
schestowitzthough it may not matterOct 10 02:24
schestowitzmaybe we can even find this email in the old troveOct 10 02:24
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: also just published http://techrights.org/2020/10/09/microsoft-and-gates-foundation-tax/Oct 10 02:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gates Foundation: the Fake ‘Charity’ That Profits From Microsoft (and Much More) Without Paying Tax | TechrightsOct 10 02:35
schestowitzmight have typosOct 10 02:35
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FSF_Free_Software_AwardsOct 10 02:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | FSF Free Software Awards - WikipediaOct 10 02:42
schestowitzdoes not include https://www.fsf.org/news/openstreetmap-and-deborah-nicholson-win-2018-fsf-awardsOct 10 02:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | OpenStreetMap and Deborah Nicholson win 2018 FSF Awards — Free Software Foundation — Working together for free softwareOct 10 02:42
schestowitza political prizeOct 10 02:42
schestowitzgranted partly for political purposesOct 10 02:42
schestowitzzoobab: http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2020/10/09/german-draft-upc-ratification-bill-in-parliament-chance-of-new-constitutional-challenges/Oct 10 02:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | German draft UPC ratification bill in parliament, chance of new constitutional challenges - Kluwer Patent BlogOct 10 02:49
schestowitz"Besides the FFII, it is not unthinkable that a new constitutional challenge will be filed as well by Ingve Stjerna."Oct 10 02:49
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/20011611Oct 10 12:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4286153)Oct 10 12:11
ChaekyungSometimes, like today, when I test software I wonder if I should simply do like everyone else apparently does and just recommend stuff I have no idea aboutOct 10 12:22
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schestowitzChaekyung: which one do you have in mind?Oct 10 12:26
schestowitzmediawiki?Oct 10 12:26
Chaekyungschestowitz: There's one site that writes mostly about games on linux, sometimes I decide to do reviews of games mentioned there myself.Oct 10 12:41
Chaekyungschestowitz: of course, if I download the game and it turns out the developer forgot to put the binary in the archive and there's only assets and I mail the guy and ask wtf and he promises a new release..Oct 10 12:42
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/2001167Oct 10 12:42
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Chaekyungschestowitz: then you may wonder how, exactly, someone else would supposedly have tested that release, ehOct 10 12:42
schestowitzgamingonlinux?Oct 10 12:43
schestowitzor another site?Oct 10 12:43
schestowitzI don't even know what cms liam dawe usesOct 10 12:43
Chaekyungor could the truth be that the person .. just looked at the games website, used screenshots from there and said this games such great :)Oct 10 12:43
Chaekyungidk what cms he useOct 10 12:43
Chaekyungbut I can say for sure he doesn't always bother to actually run the games he recommendsOct 10 12:44
ChaekyungI always waste time actually trying software before I write squat about i tOct 10 12:45
Chaekyungbtw the arch people have a conference this weekend if you didn't know https://conf.archlinux.org/pages/stream/Oct 10 12:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-conf.archlinux.org | Arch LinuxOct 10 12:46
Chaekyungit's break right now but they start talking about arch again in 15 minutesOct 10 12:46
schestowitz[12:46] <Chaekyung> btw the arch people have a conference this weekend if you didn't know https://conf.archlinux.org/pages/stream/Oct 10 12:53
schestowitzI know, I've mentioned it a few timesOct 10 12:53
schestowitzDebian will have one too, a minidebconf for gamesOct 10 12:53
schestowitzhttps://www.gamingonlinux.com/2020/09/arch-conf-2020-confirmed-for-october-has-a-talk-on-the-steamos-like-gamerosOct 10 12:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Arch Conf 2020 confirmed for October, has a talk on the SteamOS-like GamerOS | GamingOnLinuxOct 10 12:54
schestowitzhttps://www.archlinux.org/news/arch-conf-2020-schedule/Oct 10 12:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.archlinux.org | Arch Linux - News: Arch Conf 2020 scheduleOct 10 12:54
schestowitzThose are in database (well, file) of past linksOct 10 12:55
schestowitz[12:43] <Chaekyung> or could the truth be that the person .. just looked at the games website, used screenshots from there and said this games such great :)Oct 10 12:55
schestowitzIt's infeasible to properly review everything he writes aboutOct 10 12:55
schestowitzHe rarely claims to have reviewed them, only studied them, e.g. by reading a page about them or receiving email from developer/sOct 10 12:55
kingoffrancethats how lots of programming stuff isOct 10 12:58
kingoffranceyou sholud use <x>Oct 10 12:58
kingoffrancefirst q: have you ever used it yourself?Oct 10 12:58
kingoffrance<silence>Oct 10 12:58
kingoffrance<crickets>Oct 10 12:59
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MinceR(cat) https://i.imgur.com/WdO1ebQ.jpgOct 10 13:53
schestowitzit's fish, not a carOct 10 13:57
schestowitznor catOct 10 13:57
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/20011561Oct 10 14:30
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/20011557Oct 10 14:52
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XRevan86https://youtu.be/Tx3-t745Lps Khabarovsk TodayOct 10 16:46
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/5O4UDxf.jpgOct 10 19:31
XRevan86MinceR: Um, is that really a surprise?Oct 10 19:32
MinceRnoOct 10 19:32
XRevan86Being a true egoist is a bad survival strategy for a species.Oct 10 19:32
MinceRbad news for humansOct 10 19:33
XRevan86Humans are social creatures, they behave the same way.Oct 10 19:33
MinceRexcept when they do nothing, or they put the other human in a such a situation in the first placeOct 10 19:34
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schestowitz[19:34] <MinceR> except when they do nothing, or they put the other human in a such a situation in the first placeOct 10 20:18
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schestowitzthat's defined as "success"Oct 10 20:18
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MinceRindeedOct 10 20:49
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psydroidthe more people you screw over in your life, the more successful you areOct 10 21:11
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schestowitz> https://imakefoss.org/curators/Oct 10 21:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-imakefoss.org | I Make FOSS - CuratorsOct 10 21:27
schestowitz> Oct 10 21:27
schestowitz>> ‘I Make FOSS’ <https://twitter.com/imakefoss>. We give a voice toOct 10 21:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mobile.twitter.com | IMakeFOSS | Martin (@imakefoss) on TwitterOct 10 21:27
schestowitz> *opensource* projects around the world. Every week we hand the mic to aOct 10 21:27
schestowitz> new FOSS contributor. Co-founded by Jason EvangelhoOct 10 21:27
schestowitz> <https://twitter.com/KillYourFM> and Jochen SpangOct 10 21:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mobile.twitter.com | Jason Evangelho | Year 3 (@killyourfm) on TwitterOct 10 21:27
schestowitz> <https://twitter.com/josp0001>.Oct 10 21:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mobile.twitter.com | Jochen Spang (@josp0001) on TwitterOct 10 21:27
schestowitz> Oct 10 21:27
schestowitz> *> **@imakefoss* <https://twitter.com/imakefoss>*is a **Twitter rotationOct 10 21:27
schestowitz> curation account* <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotation_Curation>Oct 10 21:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Rotation Curation - WikipediaOct 10 21:28
schestowitz> similar to the @realscientists <https://twitter.com/realscientists>Oct 10 21:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mobile.twitter.com | Real Scientists | Meredith (@realscientists) on TwitterOct 10 21:28
schestowitz> where people who contribute to FOSS can introduce themselves on a weeklyOct 10 21:28
schestowitz> basis. The idea is that those who are intensively involved with FOSS canOct 10 21:28
schestowitz> present their projects and their person, answer questions and thusOct 10 21:28
schestowitz> arouse interest in getting involved.Oct 10 21:28
schestowitz> Oct 10 21:28
schestowitz> Includes a recent FSF award winner. YAY *opensource* and twitter. WhatOct 10 21:28
schestowitz> better way to spread freedom? Lots of GNOME and Red Hat too.Oct 10 21:28
schestowitzRe: Have you seen this?Oct 10 21:28
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MinceR(cat) https://unflatteringcatselfies.tumblr.com/Oct 10 21:42
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schestowitzneed assistance:Oct 10 22:28
schestowitzdoes anyone here know much about CommitChange?Oct 10 22:28
schestowitzif so, let me know here in the channelOct 10 22:28
schestowitzwe've been researching this for daysOct 10 22:28
schestowitzhttps://www.cnet.com/news/apples-new-5g-iphone-12-will-likely-have-a-new-design-will-it-be-easier-to-repair/Oct 10 22:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple's iPhone 12 will likely have a new design. Will it be easier to repair? - CNETOct 10 22:32
schestowitzwrong question...Oct 10 22:32
MinceRwill it run an open platform? obviously not.Oct 10 22:37
MinceRwill it be designed by people who know how antennas work? unlikely.Oct 10 22:37
schestowitzopensource.apple dot CONOct 10 22:37
schestowitzapple is an "open source" company :DOct 10 22:37
schestowitzall companies are "open source" nowOct 10 22:37
schestowitz"open source has won!"Oct 10 22:37
schestowitzyet all the big companies are 99% proprietaryOct 10 22:38
schestowitzbut they set up a subsite opensource.somethingOct 10 22:38
schestowitzand they have a shithub account, controlled by Microsoft and by secret code with NSA accessOct 10 22:38
schestowitz"open source has won!"Oct 10 22:38
schestowitz"open source has won!"Oct 10 22:38
schestowitz"celebrate, peasants!"Oct 10 22:39
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MinceRi meant open in the sense that you don't have to have crApple's permission to deploy an application on itOct 10 22:51
MinceRbut they won't even pass that testOct 10 22:51
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XRevan86https://youtu.be/UMZyZObOB54 catchyOct 10 22:54
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schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2020/09/24/father-of-open-source-movement/Oct 10 23:06
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schestowitz"OpenSource initiatives like GNU"  LOL!! https://inc42.com/resources/saas-a-nuanced-view-on-its-evolution/ Oct 10 23:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-inc42.com | Software as a Serveice (SaaS): A Nuanced View On Its EvolutionOct 10 23:06
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