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DaemonFC[m]I paid no federal income tax.Mar 11 00:31
DaemonFC[m]They've been dragging their asses on giving him a work permit.Mar 11 00:31
DaemonFC[m]So I filed jointly and took his standard deduction and tuition expenses and applied it to my taxes.Mar 11 00:31
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Isn't it nice where the government tries to fuck you and they end up fucking themselves harder without damaging you at all.Mar 11 00:52
DaemonFC[m]Doesn't happen much. Savor it.Mar 11 00:52
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/135041 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f423bdfa-7d94-4b60-86f3-c851a0f90d1f]Mar 11 01:57
roy-at-ted[20:35] <MinceR> so should we expect samsung to stop ship their android devices pre-infected with microsloth malware? :>Mar 11 02:11
roy-at-tedThey put newer software patents in newer FSesMar 11 02:11
roy-at-tedexFAT being oneMar 11 02:12
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DaemonFC[m]> exFAT being oneMar 11 02:50
DaemonFC[m]Linux is skipping Staging for "sdfat" and putting it right in the stable tree.Mar 11 02:50
DaemonFC[m]God..... Famous last words.Mar 11 02:51
DaemonFC[m]"Oh, Samsung says it works fine."Mar 11 02:51
DaemonFC[m]Didn't Google literally just get after them for doing stupid shit to Linux in Android?Mar 11 02:51
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: remember how you blasted Samsung for GPL violations?Mar 11 03:24
schestowitzIIRC, it was then or another time that Kuhn of SFC stepped in and tried taking over 'the case'Mar 11 03:24
schestowitzwhile telling off others who tried  shaming themMar 11 03:25
schestowitzthat was before he moved to oust RMSMar 11 03:25
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DaemonFC[m]Yeah, over their blu ray player that used linux, ffmpeg, and a ton of other stuff with no source made available. Mar 11 03:33
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oiaohmschestowitz:  DaemonFC[m]  Really the samsung exfat has been released under GPL for a while.   Came out of samsung being caught out  with violations but due Microsoft and patents the driver did not get mainline.Mar 11 05:04
oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExFAT  samsung exfat driver is from 2013.Mar 11 05:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | exFAT - WikipediaMar 11 05:06
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oiaohmhttps://sfconservancy.org/news/2013/aug/16/exfat-samsung/  << really old stuff this is.    Now if Microsoft had not been a jackass with exfat patents and specifications it would have been merged inside 12 months of that release.Mar 11 05:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sfconservancy.org | Conservancy Helps Samsung Resolve GPL Compliance Matter Amicably - Software Freedom ConservancyMar 11 05:09
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oiaohmschestowitz: samsung has been done for many violations of gpl each time they did get around to releasing the source in the end.Mar 11 05:13
roy-at-tedyeahMar 11 05:14
roy-at-tedbut the shaming did helpMar 11 05:14
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MinceR11 025106 < DaemonFC[m]> "Oh, Samsung says it works fine."Mar 11 06:47
MinceRah, the new standard of quality for Microsoft LinuxMar 11 06:47
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/657t1oK.jpgMar 11 06:51
schestowitzlolMar 11 07:39
MinceRhttps://full.pr0gramm.com/2020/02/04/ef0de11fc21b2c30.pngMar 11 07:46
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MinceR(cat) https://ircz.de/p/1911176Mar 11 08:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectMar 11 08:02
oiaohmMinceR: samsung gave the Linux kernel the f2fs file system so this is not really the new standard.   They are a upstream mainline file system maker who should be able to review thier driver properly.Mar 11 08:20
oiaohmSamsung history of GPL absuse is not good.  But there history of also submit good quality file system code without major defects on the first attempt is solid.Mar 11 08:21
oiaohmBig thing is that the source code of the driver samsung is submitting has been open to peer review since 2013.Mar 11 08:21
oiaohmYou would hope after 5 years of review that the code would be in decent shape.Mar 11 08:22
MinceRi would, but this is the IT industryMar 11 08:25
MinceRhttps://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/come-together-2Mar 11 08:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Come TogetherMar 11 08:28
roy-at-tedAYE TEA industry...Mar 11 08:33
MinceR:>Mar 11 08:33
MinceRhttps://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/hubrisMar 11 08:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - HubrisMar 11 08:39
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schestowitzkaniini: something strange happenedMar 11 09:03
schestowitzseveral things in factMar 11 09:03
schestowitzthere was limited access to the sites when viera fell onlineMar 11 09:05
schestowitzalso, hours ago, I got hundreds of emails from fsf to my email accountsMar 11 09:05
schestowitzthough it might be down to a server/service breachMar 11 09:05
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MinceRhttps://i.redd.it/c9rldxmudvl41.jpgMar 11 11:56
MinceRemail flood? :>Mar 11 11:56
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XRevan86MinceR: I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as COVID-19, is in fact, 2019-nCoV, or as I've recently taken to calling it, SARS-CoV-2.Mar 11 12:28
MinceRlolMar 11 12:30
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oiaohmXRevan86: SARS-CoV-2 is the name for COVID-19 now because after looking the DNA of it is basically SARS mark 2.Mar 11 14:15
oiaohmXRevan86: Novel Coronavirus(2019-nCoV)  the word Novel there means we have not offically named it yet and this is a place holder name until we have the research to name it.Mar 11 14:17
oiaohmCOVID-19 is another offical style of placeholder for a currently  unamed virus.  Stupid enough it how the sample tagging is done.Mar 11 14:19
MinceRafaik the pathogen is called SARS-CoV-2 and the disease is called COVID-19Mar 11 14:20
MinceR(compare HIV vs AIDS)Mar 11 14:20
MinceR(and yes, this means the image i linked to is wrong, but this isn't the point anyway :> )Mar 11 14:20
oiaohmMinceR: COVID-19 is still a place holder.   The 19 there is a year.Mar 11 14:21
oiaohmMinceR: I wrote it kind of wrong.   Novel Coronavirus(2019-nCoV) is a place holder of the name of the virus and that now SARS-CoV-2.       COVID-19 is still a place holder we don't have a proper official name for the disease it causes yet.Mar 11 14:23
XRevan86oiaohm: Point is that SARS-CoV-2 to COVID-19 is what HIV is to AIDS.Mar 11 14:24
*XRevan86 read all the messagesMar 11 14:26
XRevan86That analogy is not original at all it seems %)Mar 11 14:26
oiaohmXRevan86: both HIV and AIDS are both formal names.       It is possible for COVID-19 being a place holder to be used group of illnesses if turns out required.Mar 11 14:26
oiaohmPlace holder names get messy basically.Mar 11 14:27
oiaohmSARS-CoV-2 is a defined meaning that now it set should not get messed up.Mar 11 14:28
oiaohmXRevan86:  HIV and AIDS both started with place holders.   The first place holder for the disease with HIV/AIDS turned out to cover 12 different illnesses.Mar 11 14:29
oiaohmPlace holders in medical do need to be taken with a little grain of salt for possible not being exactly what you think they are.Mar 11 14:30
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XRevan86Why is that relevant in this context?Mar 11 14:32
XRevan86The point was simply that people confuse the cause and effect, not the specifics of what the effect is exactly and how it should be named.Mar 11 14:34
oiaohmXRevan86: and stupidly panic.Mar 11 14:35
oiaohmAustralia has had less than 115 cases and you really hope here you have a good stock pile of tollette paper because its basically sold out.Mar 11 14:36
MinceRitaly is in much deeper shitMar 11 14:36
oiaohmMinceR: we may not be in virus trouble but there are many things people should not use as tollet paper that will stuff up city sewage systems so we might here in Australia not end up with the virus in any major way but really end up in the shit from broken sewage systems.Mar 11 14:38
oiaohmSo Australia could be heading down a totally different form of being in the shit.Mar 11 14:39
MinceRwill that newspaper toilet paper gimmick insert clog the sewer system? :>Mar 11 14:39
oiaohmMinceR: depends on the news paper some of your modern ones have stuff added to make them water resistant so they don't get ruined when rained on.Mar 11 14:40
oiaohmBut that addon also makes them not sewage system compadible.Mar 11 14:40
oiaohmNext best option if you cannot get toilet paper is 2 ply paper towel for kitchen usage.Mar 11 14:41
schestowitzAriadne: can viera  be brought back, please?Mar 11 14:59
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schestowitzcheers, Ariadne!Mar 11 15:01
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MinceR(cat) https://ircz.de/p/19111518Mar 11 22:10
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DaemonFC[m]I managed to grab enough rubbing alcohol and aloe vera to make 2 gallons of hand sanitizer.Mar 11 22:59
DaemonFC[m]I already have half a gallon.Mar 11 22:59
DaemonFC[m]So I should be good for a while on that even though Walmart canceled my Germ-X order.Mar 11 22:59
DaemonFC[m]People are panic buying all of the rubbing alcohol now.Mar 11 22:59
DaemonFC[m]Then when that's gone, it's onto the Listerine even though there's not enough alcohol to kill Coronavirus.Mar 11 23:00
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DaemonFC[m]Mandy looked at me funny when I said I'd be mixing my own hand sanitizer.Mar 11 23:31
DaemonFC[m]He said, "Can you even do that?". I said, "Yeah, it'll be wintergreen scented because that's all the rubbing alcohol they had left, but it will be every bit as effective as high end hand sanitizer.".Mar 11 23:31

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