●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, April 11, 2022 ●● ● Apr 11 [00:00] *schestowitz-TR does not pronounce the T's at all [00:00] schestowitz-TR may-he... pie-ah [00:02] bnchs__ pinta [00:03] bnchs__ https://github.com/PintaProject/Pinta [00:03] TR Bot - PintaProject/Pinta: Simple GTK# Paint Program [00:03] bnchs__ A FUCKING C# paint program [00:03] schestowitz-TR yeah [00:03] schestowitz-TR it was dead for a long time [00:04] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=TazHNpt6OTo [00:04] TR Bot 10. Rupert Holmes - Escape (The Pia Colada Song) - Invidious [00:04] schestowitz-TR made a comeback around last year [00:04] schestowitz-TR pina colada is another thing [00:04] schestowitz-TR different word [00:04] matey its pinta without the t though [00:04] bnchs__ ok whats the difference between this [00:04] bnchs__ and krita/gimp [00:04] matey plus a ~ [00:04] schestowitz "pina colada" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUAjfHGsyK4 [00:04] TR Bot https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=pUAjfHGsyK4 [00:05] TR Bot timed out after 10001 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=pUAjfHGsyK4 ) [00:05] bnchs__ privacy.gd is dead [00:05] schestowitz-TR for.gd? [00:05] schestowitz-TR or just today? [00:05] schestowitz-TR I noticed this morning [00:05] schestowitz-TR maybe it'll be backl [00:31] DaemonFC KEGA Fusion seems to work better than Gens-GS does. [00:31] bnchs__ kega fusion? [00:31] DaemonFC Although it's proprietary, and the last release was in 2010, and I had to load it into Wine. [00:31] bnchs__ use dgen [00:31] DaemonFC A Sega emulator inside a Windows simulator. [00:32] bnchs__ genesis plus gx [00:32] bnchs__ although it has a non-commercial license [00:33] bnchs__ it's very portable [00:38] TR News How Media Helped the EPO Cover Up the EPO Crisis (Including Severe Escalations and Plunge in Patent Grants) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/10/epo-media-coverup/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/10/epo-media-coverup/ [00:38] TR Bot How Media Helped the EPO Cover Up the EPO Crisis (Including Severe Escalations and Plunge in Patent Grants) | Techrights [00:39] bnchs__ i just remembered [00:39] bnchs__ remember when back in the CMD days [00:39] bnchs__ you maximize the CMD window [00:39] bnchs__ it only maximizes to the left vertical side of your screen [00:39] bnchs__ rather to the entire screen [00:42] TR News "I use spacemacs at work, but know almost nothing about emacs. I use evil mode and do not really get most of the emacs thing. It feels slow to me and crashes sometimes... buuuut does have some cool features. I like being able to have a terminal in an editor window, for one." gemini://gemlog.blue/users/sloum/1599541487.gmi [00:42] TR News Shows and Videos: GNU World Order, Studying GNU/Linux, and Mono Risk Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163583 [00:42] TR Bot Shows and Videos: GNU World Order, Studying GNU/Linux, and Mono Risk | Tux Machines [00:43] chunky u think nfts are cool + shave your neck beard + u wear a bath robe + hope u die + proactiv didnt work for u + u can barely swim [00:46] bnchs__ chunky: dilate [00:49] matey cmd + windows isnt the only situation where this happens [00:49] matey a lot of term windows + de/wm combinations do similar [00:50] matey in windows i would sometimes go full screen with alt+enter [00:50] *bnchs__ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:50] matey sometimes sdl does that. i think i went fullscreen with supertux [00:51] *bnchs (~bnchs@3karamu2kzeki.irc) has joined #techrights [00:51] matey sometimes weird things happen when you do that [00:51] matey like you get back from fullscreen and the xrand resolution is wrong [00:51] matey randr [00:52] matey maybe its at 640x480 or something [00:52] kingoffrance well i like how the people who shave their neck beards are losers lol [00:53] kingoffrance winners grow a wizard beard [00:54] kingoffrance re: terms my guess is bitmapped (monospace/size) fonts [00:55] matey yes, the fonts are monospaced (and often bitmaps) [00:55] matey cmd can use both bitmapped and ttf fonts [00:56] matey xterm as well [00:56] *psydruid wonders where the shitposters on the channel keep coming from [00:56] matey /me has a few theories [00:56] matey but no unified theory [00:58] bnchs but imagine this [00:58] bnchs why can't CMD resize to the entire screen [00:58] matey it doesnt pad [00:58] bnchs it's hardcoded to a small width size [00:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 30.06 k/sec., IPFS upstream 48.93 average k/sec., average swarm size 385.15 ● Apr 11 [01:00] *immibis has quit (*.net *.split) [01:00] *Snuupy has quit (*.net *.split) [01:00] matey https://thecustomizewindows.com/2011/02/enable-true-maximized-command-prompt-window-in-windows-7/ [01:00] TR Bot Enable true maximized command prompt window in Windows 7 [01:00] *immibis (~hexchat@62.156.144.218) has joined #techrights [01:00] DaemonFC I may have just had a large piece of birthday cake early. [01:00] DaemonFC I got an Oberweis triple chocolate ice cream cake. [01:01] matey thats racist? [01:01] matey "Oberweis" [01:01] *Snuupy (~Snuupy@user/snuupy) has joined #techrights [01:03] DaemonFC Jim Oberweis owns it. [01:03] matey it should be Oberzulassen [01:03] bnchs matey: imagine doing this hack [01:03] bnchs to enable true maximized command prompt window [01:03] matey weis=white zulassen=allow [01:03] MinceR matey: you're thinking of "weiss" :> [01:03] DaemonFC Jim UberWeiss [01:03] matey mincer: like you wont know what dfc means if he starts ranting about blacs [01:04] MinceR lol [01:04] bnchs you know blacks [01:04] matey Jim the WEISS ANGEL! [01:04] bnchs blah blah blah chicago [01:04] bnchs they gun up like san andreas [01:05] matey matey: imagine doing this hack <- was waiting for the punchline [01:05] bnchs matey: xterm, a program from the 1980's [01:06] bnchs CAN ACTUALLY MAXIMIZE [01:06] matey bnchs: yes and no [01:06] bnchs yes and no? [01:06] matey yes its maximised right now [01:07] matey no, it doesnt go to the entire right side of the screen, even in a tiling wm [01:07] bnchs well a step above CMD [01:07] matey the distance from the right side varies depending on text size [01:07] bnchs where it only maximizes to the entire left side [01:07] matey of course its a step above cmd :) [01:08] matey though honestly with the hack i found, cmd might actually maximise better than xterm [01:08] psydruid it's as if someone at Microsoft thought of all the things you can get wrong about computers and decided to call it Windows (into his twisted soul) [01:08] matey then again it might make the bitmap fonts pixelly :) [01:08] matey it's as if someone at Microsoft thought of all the things you can get wrong about computers and decided to call it Windows <- or alternatively [01:08] matey its as if all they thought about at microsoft was being cheap and making money [01:08] matey and controlling users [01:09] bnchs well even then [01:09] bnchs powershell and CMD can't compete with many GNU/Linux terminals [01:09] bnchs like xfce4-terminal [01:09] bnchs and konsole and shit [01:10] *bnchs__ (~bnchs@4gwmssbccn4tu.irc) has joined #techrights [01:10] TR News Deja Vu: Published 4 Days Ago, Battistelli Celebrating UPCA Signed Almost 10 Years Ago! | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/10/upc-deja-vu/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/10/upc-deja-vu/ [01:10] TR Bot Deja Vu: Published 4 Days Ago, Battistelli Celebrating UPCA Signed Almost 10 Years Ago! | Techrights [01:11] matey xfce4-term doesnt maximise properly either [01:11] psydruid powershell syntax is so intuitive that only an alien can learn it [01:11] matey i set out to learn powershell at one point [01:11] matey then i realised that even if i went to the trouble of getting it running outside windows [01:12] matey it would always be something microsoft controlled [01:12] matey and that made it next to useless [01:12] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:12] matey this was a long fucking time ago [01:13] matey i used to give a shit if ansi escape codes worked in windows, enough to add colorama to one of my projects [01:13] psydruid if I have to go to the trouble of learning that, just give me haskell [01:13] matey after microsoft bought github i was like fuck it, youre on your own (there are various ways to get ansi support in windows 10) [01:13] matey (the most trivial being ansicon) [01:14] matey if I have to go to the trouble of learning that, just give me haskell <- good choice [01:19] bnchs__ uhhh [01:20] bnchs__ have you ever used a BBS [01:20] matey a few [01:20] bnchs__ the only times i did was over SSH [01:20] matey some no name ones, some well known ones [01:20] bnchs__ i could do telnet but too afraid of my ISP [01:20] matey /me checks when ssh was invented :) [01:21] matey In 1995, Tatu Ylnen, a researcher at Helsinki University of Technology, Finland, designed the first version of the protocol (now called SSH-1) [01:21] matey i was using bbs before that [01:21] bnchs__ over telnet? [01:22] bnchs__ or some other protocol [01:22] matey so what you would do is [01:22] matey youd dial the bbs [01:22] matey and then some program would connect to it [01:24] bnchs__ matey: dial up modems? [01:25] TR News ______________________________ | Gemini address: ______________________________ [01:28] TR News Reading the news will, in general, give one the false impression that the only difficulty at the EPO is related to COVID-19 http://techrights.org/2022/04/10/epo-media-coverup/ [01:28] TR Bot How Media Helped the EPO Cover Up the EPO Crisis (Including Severe Escalations and Plunge in Patent Grants) | Techrights [01:28] TR News Back in 2013, says this new article, as president of the European Patent Office (EPO), Battistelli was celebrating the historic signing of the Unified Patent Court agreement; were in April 2022 already and they tell us the same story http://techrights.org/2022/04/10/upc-deja-vu/ [01:28] TR Bot Deja Vu: Published 4 Days Ago, Battistelli Celebrating UPCA Signed Almost 10 Years Ago! | Techrights [01:29] TR News Review: dahliaOS 220222 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163584 [01:29] TR Bot Review: dahliaOS 220222 | Tux Machines [01:29] *rasputinaB95 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:30] TR News GIMP is the best, Glimpse was just trolling the name https://www.creativebloq.com/reviews/gimp [01:30] TR Bot GIMP 2.10 review | Creative Bloq [01:31] TR News Better solution is to delete Windows https://www.argus-press.com/news/national/article_6896dd33-51ad-580e-9612-c53d039fb468.html see http://techrights.org/2021/05/02/ransomware-task-force/ [01:31] TR Bot Enhances Key Ransomware Defense Solution | National | argus-press.com [01:31] TR Bot Microsoft-Centric Ransomware Task Force | Techrights [01:32] matey bnchs__ i used dos to connect to a bbs with a modem [01:32] matey using some kind of modem "chat" software [01:32] matey but i dont know what it was called [01:33] bnchs__ wow must have been cool [01:38] DaemonFC I gave the kitties a can of tuna I found in the pantry. [01:38] DaemonFC They seem to be enjoying it. [01:39] schestowitz-TR you seem to have gotten on track now [01:39] *psydruid missed the whole dos era and wouldn't never have been a windows user if he had known there were alternatives when he got his first x86 pc [01:39] schestowitz-TR half a ton of litter [01:39] schestowitz-TR for the buick [01:39] schestowitz-TR to stress-test it [01:39] MinceR :) [01:39] psydruid would* [01:40] matey ACTION missed the whole dos era <- i spent years playing with dos and hoping they would make "linux" more dos-like until i finally got the hang of bash [01:40] matey byt the time i was writing lengthy bash tutorials i was over dos [01:40] matey this woudl have happened years sooner IF SOMEONE HAD GIVEN ME KSH INSTEAD [01:40] matey /me sets bash on fire [01:41] DaemonFC Half a ton is half the weight of the car. [01:41] DaemonFC Which is about the right weight for a car. [01:41] DaemonFC Even this one isn't as big as my old Crown Victoria was. [01:42] DaemonFC MinceR knows how much I like land barges, and cats. [01:43] schestowitz-TR \me test [01:43] *schestowitz-TR test [01:43] schestowitz-TR matey: the slash you use for me is wrong, I think [01:43] schestowitz-TR maybe your bsd software uses some other char, I've not checked [01:43] matey \me hi [01:43] matey /me hi [01:43] schestowitz-TR \me hi [01:43] DaemonFC I don't like bash. I like fish better. [01:44] matey i normally use this one: [01:44] matey /me hi [01:44] schestowitz-TR yes, it does not work [01:44] DaemonFC "yt-dlp-fish-completion" [01:44] MinceR i prefer zsh [01:44] matey yes, i have noticed [01:44] DaemonFC Oh my! :) [01:44] schestowitz-TR in konversation, xchat etc. and the server side (ircd) [01:44] matey /me cant stand zsh but isnt against it [01:44] psydruid I prefer powerlessshell [01:45] bnchs__ i wish i was born in the same era as BBS dial up [01:46] DaemonFC Fish has a lot of the features people seem to rave about with zsh. It also has its own shell script that is sans bashisms and POSIX stupidity and common POSIX shell bugs. [01:46] DaemonFC But it's POSIX-like when it makes sense. [01:47] matey of those mentioned so far, only fish is github-based [01:47] matey zsh is sf [01:47] DaemonFC It doesn't really need to be strictly bash or POSIX compatible because those scripts should run specifying the shell they want and most users aren't actually going to replace their login shell, but rather the command that runs when you open a GUI terminal application. [01:48] matey ksh may be mirrored on gh but openbsd has its own repo (its the default shell) [01:49] matey im still salty about the bloat / insanity in bash and any shell with MORE features isnt something im likely to enjoy using [01:49] matey bash has so many fucking features its less predictable / more trouble to use [01:49] matey i just didnt know. [01:50] matey i spent so long getting used to its quirks it never occurred to me that less-bullshit shells were in common use [01:50] DaemonFC There's multiple ksh shells. There's MirBSD Korn Shell, the various official Korn Shells, the Public Domain Korn Shell, etc. [01:50] matey thats a fair statement [01:50] matey the one in openbsd is pdksh [01:52] matey im not angry that bash exists, im (at best) inconvenienced by the fact that its so promoted [01:52] DaemonFC mksh is probably the best option. [01:52] matey i honestly think if ksh were used (nearly) everywhere bash is, that more people would be more comfortable with the shell [01:53] DaemonFC You could change OpenBSD to use it and I'm fairly confident nothing would break, even if you make it your login shell. [01:53] matey mksh is probably the best option. <- availability is a factor, always was [01:53] matey /me checks availability [01:53] DaemonFC Debian's description of it says it is DFSG compliant and that the system won't break if it's your login shell. [01:53] DaemonFC So that's nice! [01:54] matey pkg_info mksh turned up nothing [01:54] matey id probably have to compile it [01:55] matey whats the advantage over pdksh? [01:55] DaemonFC I think it's just better maintained and more features are being implemented. [01:55] DaemonFC Active development. [01:55] DaemonFC " [01:55] DaemonFC mksh can do many things GNU bash cant, for example better arrays, the ksh Co-processes, etc. but is much faster and smaller. In contrast to bash, mksh is still being actively developed (bash almost only receives small changes or weird stuff like programmable tab completion). GNU bashs array initialiser syntax is not yet supported. We dont aim at being fully bash compatible, but some of the surprises for converts will be rem [01:55] DaemonFC oved. Funnily, bash4 now contains some things first introduced in mksh." [01:56] matey " better maintained" <- im sure openbsd maintains their own ksh sufficiently [01:56] DaemonFC Enough that it works. [01:56] matey " and more features" <- exactly what i prefer to avoid [01:56] DaemonFC There's a difference between works and creature comforts and correctness obviously. [01:57] matey Enough that it works. <- no, im pretty sure openbsd considers it of vital importance, its not just some package [01:57] matey they maintain an entire os. ksh is pretty important to that. [01:57] matey "creature comforts" <- i want predictability, bash doesnt have enough of that [01:58] matey if bash has too many features, i probably dont want "creature comforts" [01:58] matey i want to be able to type in a line for the shell and not guess what it will do [01:58] matey the simplicity is the comfort i want [01:58] matey granted i seem to be a minority in this, but i still think thats weird [01:59] matey i was never happy with dash though [01:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.83 k/sec., IPFS upstream 40.40 average k/sec., average swarm size 390.76 ● Apr 11 [02:00] DaemonFC dash isn't meant to be a good interactive shell [02:00] matey mksh can do many things GNU bash cant, for example better arrays <- arrays are good [02:01] matey dash isn't meant to be a good interactive shell <- understood. and it isnt. [02:01] DaemonFC When Ubuntu changed to it for the scripting shell to speed up initscripts (mainly) I decided to set my login shell to dash. [02:01] DaemonFC *barf* [02:01] DaemonFC I set it back pretty fast. [02:01] matey yeah [02:01] matey it serves a purpose [02:02] matey i tried using it for a shell and had a similar experience as you [02:02] DaemonFC But we're moving way past initscripts, even for compatibility. [02:02] matey too bad, because it made me think any lightweight shell would also suck [02:02] DaemonFC Fedora is even purging the 120,000 lines of ifcfg crap in fedora 36. [02:02] DaemonFC And the even larger test suites. [02:03] DaemonFC Instead of just running a script and only being able to guess how it all ties together and what the shell will do with it due to the shell's own bugs, and having it be slow and full of odd security holes, just get rid of it and run a program that behaves predictably and performs well. [02:04] matey just get rid of it and run a program that behaves predictably and performs well. <- this is exactly why i love (pd)ksh [02:04] matey and when thats not good enough, python [02:04] DaemonFC A significant amount of maintaining scripts for everything previously was just trying to work around bugs in software that often had hostile and difficult maintainers. [02:04] matey though python 3 is heavily fucked with [02:04] DaemonFC It has a Code of Conduct and code you write today will need to be significantly re-architected every 10 years or so. [02:05] DaemonFC That still counts as three strikes all by itself. [02:05] matey i dont use python 3 [02:05] DaemonFC Python 2 is long since dead, and removed by most distributions. [02:06] matey thats really not true though [02:06] DaemonFC Unless you're using some really old version of RHEL or something, I don't know if it's even THERE come to think of it. [02:06] matey its corporate propaganda [02:06] matey pypy2 has no plans to abandon python 2 compatibility [02:06] DaemonFC Perl is worse. [02:06] DaemonFC Especially the CPAN. [02:06] matey pypy has no plans to ^ [02:07] TR News 400 More Gemini Capsules in Just 2.5 Months | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/10/400-more-gemini-capsules/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/10/400-more-gemini-capsules/ [02:07] TR Bot 400 More Gemini Capsules in Just 2.5 Months | Techrights [02:07] matey pypy is actively maintained, so this bs about python 2 not being maintained is crap [02:07] matey its nicer to write for pypy2 than python 3 [02:07] matey and its stable [02:07] matey which python 3 will never be [02:07] matey and its a lot simpler [02:08] DaemonFC Woke trolls infest things. [02:08] DaemonFC Run people off. [02:08] DaemonFC Code goes to shit. [02:08] matey if i dont ever find a better language [02:08] DaemonFC That's why I said that having a Code of Conduct is the first two strikes against something. [02:08] matey i may even fork python 2 and strip it down [02:08] DaemonFC Unfortunately, most do now. [02:08] TR News "Josh and Kurt talk about hackers using emergency data requests to gain access to sensitive data. The argument that somehow backdoors can be protected falls under this problem. We dont yet have the technical or policy protections in place to actually protect this data." https://opensourcesecurity.io/2022/04/10/episode-318-social-engineering-and-why-zlib-got-a-2018-cve-id/ [02:08] matey well nearly every language [02:08] TR Bot Episode 318 Social engineering and why zlib got a 2018 CVE ID Open Source Security [02:08] matey yes [02:08] matey i was just going to say that [02:08] matey and theyre nearly all github based now [02:09] matey lua isnt, they dont have a public repo at all. heres your tarball. have fun. [02:09] matey you get the source, development is private. [02:09] matey you can always fork. [02:09] matey the main thing i would do with lua is implement another language on top of it [02:10] matey but if it doesnt have the basic features i want, its not worth the effort [02:10] matey for example, python is WONDERFUL about hash tables and list handling [02:10] matey lua might make me do half of that by hand [02:11] matey pypy is a better optino [02:11] TR News http [02:11] TR News Linux 5.18-rc2 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163585 [02:11] TR Bot Linux 5.18-rc2 | Tux Machines [02:11] matey since i write most code in my own language, i may be able to move from python to lua with minimal or no changes [02:11] matey but it might be worthwhile to fork python 2 and strip it down instead [02:12] TR News rowing focus and of course time is being spent on Gemini (and alt text to ensure readers who are blind arent left out). Hours ago Lupa was indicating that there are now about 2,400 known Gemini capsules http://techrights.org/2022/04/10/400-more-gemini-capsules/ [02:12] TR Bot 400 More Gemini Capsules in Just 2.5 Months | Techrights [02:15] matey i almost never use 3rd party libraries [02:16] matey the exception used to be pygame, i dont use it anymore [02:16] matey i dont know if tkinter even counts, since its required to run idle. [02:16] matey i only use tkinter for one or two projects [02:18] matey to port my language to lua i would need to research about 100 features, plus things like array handling [02:21] matey features like how to swap values, how to run a shell command, how to open a file, how to set the value of an item in an array [02:22] matey lua is dynamically typed, which is what i want [02:23] matey its list handling and similar data structures are unified through the "table" feature [02:24] matey one thing i would sorely miss if lua didnt support it, is the ability to pipe console output back to a list [02:24] matey os.popen does this in python [02:24] matey "Although Lua does not have a built-in concept of classes, object-oriented programming can be emulated using functions and tables. An object is formed by putting methods and fields in a table." [02:24] matey good enough for me [02:25] matey moonscript, haxe, fennel, urn and amulet all compile TO lua code [02:26] matey so if i moved my language to lua it would be among those [02:28] TR News Links 10/04/2022: MX Linux 21.1 Wildflower and Linux 5.18 RC2 Released | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/10/mx-linux-21-1/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/10/mx-linux-21-1/ [02:29] TR Bot Links 10/04/2022: MX Linux 21.1 Wildflower and Linux 5.18 RC2 Released | Techrights [02:33] TR News When it comes to reporting, trying to cause harm isn't inherently bad. But the important thing is, that should be based on facts. [02:34] TR News Raspberry PI Pico and Raspberry PI With Debian Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163586 [02:34] TR Bot Raspberry PI Pico and Raspberry PI With Debian | Tux Machines [02:35] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163587 [02:35] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [02:35] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163588 [02:35] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [02:35] TR News Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163589 [02:35] TR Bot Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [02:38] TR News Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. 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[02:54] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techrights [02:56] matey one of the reasons i dont move my language to something like haskell (at least its not my first choice) is because one of the features of the language is that its implemented in a language suitable for education / beginners [02:56] matey so is lua. haskell less so. [02:56] matey you can learn any language first of course. unless youre 5. [02:57] matey you can do basic at 5. most "modern" languages less so [02:57] matey the guy who wrote "forg" (its a gopher client in python) teaches the shell to his kid [02:57] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:57] matey which is good, i used dos when i was 5. [02:57] matey you typed in the name of a program and it ran [02:58] matey to run pc paintbrush from zsoft, you put the diskette in and typed: [02:58] matey pbrush [02:58] matey thats easy enough [02:59] TR News Software Patents: "The 066 patent is generally directed to a behavior management system that allows users to track and compare fitness and health-related data." https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/3/30/fat-statz-patent-held-invalid [02:59] Alternative link CloudFlare: unifiedpatents.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/3/30/fat-statz-patent-held-invalid https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/3/30/fat-statz-patent-held-invalid [02:59] TR Bot Fat Statz patent held invalid Unified Patents [02:59] matey to this day when i want to start a program (ive used countless shells, even made some of my own) i open a term with alt+shift+enter and type what i want to run ● Apr 11 [03:00] matey if i want the shell to close i add &exit [03:00] TR News Throwing Software Patents in the bin https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/3/31/2000-for-linfo-ip-prior-art-132 [03:00] Alternative link CloudFlare: unifiedpatents.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/3/31/2000-for-linfo-ip-prior-art-132 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/3/31/2000-for-linfo-ip-prior-art-132 [03:00] TR Bot $2,000 for Linfo IP '132 prior art Unified Patents [03:01] matey sometimes i just move the shell to another virtual desktop with alt+shift+number of desktop to move it to [03:01] matey though i think for beginners, icewm is a lot friendlier [03:02] schestowitz-TR going to record a video [03:02] schestowitz-TR I found a very nice freesw tool [03:02] *schestowitz-TR used DOS at age 5 as well [03:03] schestowitz-TR (friend's PC) [03:03] matey we had a lot of new tech in my house, for a variety of reasons [03:03] matey we had a cd player in like 83 [03:04] matey deals with japan got us some good prices on certain things [03:04] matey but the computer stuff had nothing to do with that [03:05] matey i think i would have learned more if id used a c64 through the 80s [03:05] matey i really have no use for one at this point, but ive had c64 envy for most of my life. theyre really very cool. [03:05] matey obviously ive played with a couple [03:06] matey i also got to play with an xo-1 once. the only time i went to a "lug" actually. [03:06] matey so that was a lucky chance meeting [03:07] matey the screen is very impractical for an adult. then again i had a lemote and (at one point) a smartphone, and i dont know if id say the xo-1 is worse [03:08] matey it was my curiosity about the sugar platform that got me into python [03:08] matey and into trisquel [03:10] matey i actually made a program that compiles to shell scripts, so my wife could use the shell with less hassle [03:10] matey she wasnt interested in learning bash. because of this mini language she didnt have to [03:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [03:10] IPFS Gemini requests since start of month: 141018 total Total number of pages in capsule: 40124 Active: active (running) since Mon 2022-02-07 16:50:38 GMT; 2 months 1 days ago [03:10] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 23.48 k/sec., IPFS upstream 44.48 average k/sec., average swarm size 293.05 [03:11] matey i got her using the shell for maintaining a server which she ran a website from [03:11] IPFS IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. 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[03:19] *bnchs__ has quit (connection closed) [03:19] AdmFubar https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/05/florida-has-already-wasted-over-700k-of-taxpayer-funds-defending-its-unconstitutional-content-moderation-bill/ [03:19] Alternative link CloudFlare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/05/florida-has-already-wasted-over-700k-of-taxpayer-funds-defending-its-unconstitutional-content-moderation-bill/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/05/florida-has-already-wasted-over-700k-of-taxpayer-funds-defending-its-unconstitutional-content-moderation-bill/ [03:19] TR Bot Has Already Wasted Over $700k Of Taxpayer Funds Defending Its Unconstitutional Content Moderation Bill | Techdirt [03:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 30.76 k/sec., IPFS upstream 7.56 average k/sec., average swarm size 439.25 ● Apr 11 [04:06] matey not a user myself, though fuck if i know what good a pinky nail is unless its for doing coke [04:06] TR News #Techrights Bulletin for Sunday, April 10, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [04:06] TR Bot Bulletin Archives [04:06] matey theyre really annoying [04:06] TR News #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [04:06] TR Bot Techrights Full IPFS Index [04:10] TR News "why is it impossible to actually understand the price of a hotel" gemini://alex.flounder.online/journal.gmi [04:11] TR News New: OS/2 gemini://jan.bio/glog/20220410-os2.gmi "Last time I used OS/2 was back in the 90s, when I had installed it as my only operating system on my PC." [04:12] TR News "Date of Expiration is such an amazing module in spite of the tech theme. A module with a map this quality, encounter tables this rich, and cross-references this thorough one of the top adventures Ive ever ran." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/modules-and-toolboxes [04:14] TR News "(Gamergate showed how very, very wrong I was about that, and now I think that show was good since those 101 basic points was not was universally agreed-upon and known as I believed.)" gemini://idiomdrottning.org/art-that-broke-mold [04:15] schestowitz [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D557.jpg [04:15] schestowitz [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D199.jpg [04:17] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving) [04:17] TR News "The content below was created by pygsgallery.py which is included in my PicoPygments repository." https://dt.iki.fi/pygments-gallery [04:17] TR Bot style gallery | dt.iki.fi [04:18] TR News "Write programs that do one thing and do it well." https://matt-rickard.com/every-unix-command-becomes-a-startup/ [04:18] Alternative link CloudFlare: matt-rickard.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://matt-rickard.com/every-unix-command-becomes-a-startup/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://matt-rickard.com/every-unix-command-becomes-a-startup/ [04:18] TR Bot Every Unix Command Becomes a Startup [04:18] TR News "Suppose, not hypothetically, that you have a Linux system where SSH logins are authenticated with passwords and then a MFA challenge" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/PAMStackingAndStopping [04:18] Alternative link CloudFlare: utoronto.ca | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/PAMStackingAndStopping https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/PAMStackingAndStopping [04:18] TR Bot Chris's Wiki :: blog/linux/PAMStackingAndStopping [04:19] TR News "There are two forms for these controls; the 'historical' and still very common single-word form that uses things like 'required' and 'sufficient'" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/sysadmin/PAMModuleResultsEffects [04:19] Alternative link CloudFlare: utoronto.ca | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/sysadmin/PAMModuleResultsEffects https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/sysadmin/PAMModuleResultsEffects [04:19] TR Bot Chris's Wiki :: blog/sysadmin/PAMModuleResultsEffects [04:19] matey there is a fuckload of perl in the free software directory [04:20] matey maybe two [04:20] TR News "Both of these use at least one option that is entirely redundant, and the second can cause ssh to fail to connect if you happen to be using password authentication." https://tookmund.com/2021/10/ssh-port-forwarding [04:20] TR Bot Port Forwarding and the Command Cargo Cult Tookmund A place for my random thoughts about software [04:20] TR News "Teletypes may have killed a lot of forests by emitting every line to hard copy instead of a screen" https://oldvcr.blogspot.com/2022/04/tonight-were-gonna-log-on-like-its-1979.html [04:20] TR Bot Old Vintage Computing Research: Tonight we're gonna log on like it's 1979 (Telenet, Dialcom and The Source) [04:21] matey i wonder how much of it actually gets used [04:22] TR News iophk: obvious GPL violations, all the while the dealer lie about "IP" "protection" https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/let's-talk-about-source-code,-right-to:7 [04:22] Alternative link CloudFlare: odysee.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/let's-talk-about-source-code,-right-to:7 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/let's-talk-about-source-code,-right-to:7 [04:22] TR Bot Let's talk about source code, Right to Repair, and massive deflection by John Deere. [04:22] matey i mean metacpan probably has stats [04:23] TR News Burned by EPO giving it fake patents https://www.kulr8.com/news/money/forward-pharma-reports-financial-and-operating-results-for-the-year-ended-december-31-2021/article_85597d74-c19f-5977-add8-12ee947701c3.html [04:23] TR Bot Pharma Reports Financial and Operating Results for the Year Ended December 31, 2021 | Your Money | kulr8.com [04:23] matey and i think its still true after you remove perl projects that are github-based [04:27] AdmFubar https://symantec-enterprise-blogs.security.com/blogs/threat-intelligence/cicada-apt10-china-ngo-government-attacks [04:27] Alternative link CloudFlare: security.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://symantec-enterprise-blogs.security.com/blogs/threat-intelligence/cicada-apt10-china-ngo-government-attacks https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://symantec-enterprise-blogs.security.com/blogs/threat-intelligence/cicada-apt10-china-ngo-government-attacks [04:27] TR Bot Cicada: Chinese APT Group Widens Targeting in Recent Espionage Activity | Symantec Blogs [04:30] AdmFubar https://www.theverge.com/23017361/ifixit-right-to-repair-parts-google-samsung-valve-microsoft [04:30] TR Bot The era of fixing your own phone has nearly arrived - The Verge [04:36] TR News Voyager 22.04-beta is out http://voyagerlive.org/ [04:36] TR Bot [04:39] TR News "One defining trait of Unix is that, in principle, everything is a file." https://matt-rickard.com/plan9-everything-is-a-file/ [04:39] Alternative link CloudFlare: matt-rickard.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://matt-rickard.com/plan9-everything-is-a-file/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://matt-rickard.com/plan9-everything-is-a-file/ [04:39] TR Bot Plan9: Everything is (Really) a File [04:41] TR News Raspberry Pi OS Loses Default Pi User for Security http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163489#comment-33328 [04:41] TR Bot Raspberry Pi OS removes default "Pi" username, adds experimental support for Wayland | Tux Machines [04:47] AdmFubar :)) https://www.vice.com/en/article/3abwj3/play-to-earn-game-token-collapses-after-hacker-cashes-out [04:47] TR Bot Play-to-Earn Game Token Collapses After Hacker Cashes Out [04:56] AdmFubar https://www.pogowasright.org/law-prof-suggests-geofence-warrants-are-a-net-gain-for-the-public-even-if-they-invert-the-probable-cause-standard/ [04:56] Alternative link CloudFlare: pogowasright.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.pogowasright.org/law-prof-suggests-geofence-warrants-are-a-net-gain-for-the-public-even-if-they-invert-the-probable-cause-standard/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.pogowasright.org/law-prof-suggests-geofence-warrants-are-a-net-gain-for-the-public-even-if-they-invert-the-probable-cause-standard/ [04:56] TR Bot Law Prof Suggests Geofence Warrants Are A Net Gain For The Public, Even If They Invert The Probable Cause Standard [04:58] TR News "This may look like a normal robot lawnmower, the sort that trundles mindlessly around suburban lawns all over the country" https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-mows-lawns [04:58] TR Bot Raspberry Pi and Raspberry Pi Pico Team Up for Robot Lawnmower Project | Tom's Hardware [04:58] TR News "Many circuits, such as a computer power supply or a phone charger, require a stable voltage reference" http://www.righto.com/2022/04/reverse-engineering-lm185-voltage.html [04:58] Alternative link CloudFlare: righto.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/http://www.righto.com/2022/04/reverse-engineering-lm185-voltage.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/http://www.righto.com/2022/04/reverse-engineering-lm185-voltage.html [04:58] TR Bot Reverse-engineering the LM185 voltage reference chip and its bandgap reference [04:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.45 k/sec., IPFS upstream 21.76 average k/sec., average swarm size 341.76 [04:59] TR News "The TI OMAP - Open Multimedia Application Platform - series powered some of the most influential devices over the years, smartphones..." https://www.gsmarena.com/flashback_remembering_all_the_awesome_devices_that_were_powered_by_ti_omap_chips-news-53892.php [04:59] Alternative link CloudFlare: gsmarena.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gsmarena.com/flashback_remembering_all_the_awesome_devices_that_were_powered_by_ti_omap_chips-news-53892.php https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gsmarena.com/flashback_remembering_all_the_awesome_devices_that_were_powered_by_ti_omap_chips-news-53892.php [04:59] TR Bot remembering the awesome devices powered by TI OMAP chips - GSMArena.com news ● Apr 11 [05:02] DaemonFC https://nitter.eu/pic/media%2FFP90tTjXEAscqTO.jpg%3Fname%3Dorig [05:06] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [05:07] TR News curl 7.82.0 Adds --json Option https://isc.sans.edu/diary/rss/28510 [05:07] TR Bot InfoSec Handlers Diary Blog - SANS Internet Storm Center [05:07] TR News "One area of interest involves what has been labelled Collapse Informatics" https://criticaledtech.com/2022/04/08/what-might-degrowth-computing-look-like/ [05:07] TR Bot What might degrowth computing look like? 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Simple, stay away from social media [05:09] TR News Windows TCO: "Since Wednesday 2022-03-30, at least 16 samples of a specific Excel file have been submitted to VirusTotal." https://isc.sans.edu/diary/rss/28522 [05:09] TR Bot InfoSec Handlers Diary Blog - SANS Internet Storm Center [05:09] TR News SAP corruption https://www.techzim.co.zw/2022/04/drama-behind-high-court-ruling-zimdef-sap-tender-illegal/ [05:09] TR Bot The crazy drama behind the High Court ruling ZIMDEF's SAP software tender is illegal - Techzim [05:10] *matey has quit (connection closed) [05:22] TR News Effectively Responding to Fake News in the Age of Corrupt EPO Management, Controlled by Team UPC/Litigation Lobby | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/10/responding-to-fake-news/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/10/responding-to-fake-news/ [05:22] TR Bot Effectively Responding to Fake News in the Age of Corrupt EPO Management, Controlled by Team UPC/Litigation Lobby | Techrights [05:46] *techrights_guest|42 (~ae3d92e4@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [05:47] *techrights_guest|42 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [05:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 27.25 k/sec., IPFS upstream 54.48 average k/sec., average swarm size 409.15 ● Apr 11 [06:26] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [06:31] *superkuh has quit (*.net *.split) [06:33] *superkuh (~superkuh@user/superkuh) has joined #techrights [06:47] *Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer) [06:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 23.55 k/sec., IPFS upstream 52.31 average k/sec., average swarm size 330.61 ● Apr 11 [07:21] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [07:21] *gooseheaded has quit (connection closed) [07:21] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [07:24] *matey (~matey@45z7pa32xezpn.irc) has joined #techrights [07:26] *matey has quit (connection closed) [07:53] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@whtwrnbgt52uw.irc) has joined #techrights [07:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.41 k/sec., IPFS upstream 105.03 average k/sec., average swarm size 398.05 ● Apr 11 [08:05] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@e56aqnyrpnfiu.irc) has joined #techrights [08:18] *gooseheaded_ (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [08:19] *gooseheaded has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:26] *gooseheaded_ has quit (Quit: Leaving) [08:27] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [08:37] *gooseheaded has quit (Quit: Leaving) [08:46] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [08:53] TR News MX-21.1 Wildflower based on Debian 11 without systemd support Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163590 [08:53] TR Bot MX-21.1 Wildflower based on Debian 11 without systemd support | Tux Machines [08:53] TR News 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: April 10th, 2022 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163591 [08:53] TR Bot 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: April 10th, 2022 | Tux Machines [08:53] immibis is it coincidence that nitter = twitter + n-word? [08:54] schestowitz-TR it's not true [08:54] schestowitz-TR nwitter.com? 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Advocates say it's time to let him go [10:31] TR News "Ecuadorian authorities Friday raided the office of Swedish cyber security expert Ola Bini, WikiLeaks founder Julian Assanges friend" https://www.laprensalatina.com/ecuador-raids-office-of-swedish-computer-scientist-friend-of-assange/ [10:31] Alternative link CloudFlare: laprensalatina.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.laprensalatina.com/ecuador-raids-office-of-swedish-computer-scientist-friend-of-assange/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.laprensalatina.com/ecuador-raids-office-of-swedish-computer-scientist-friend-of-assange/ [10:31] TR Bot Ecuador raids office of Swedish computer scientist friend of Assange - La Prensa Latina Media [10:31] TR News "We're not strictly anti-algorithm. Algorithms are like equations, right? They appear all over the place and do different things." https://reason.com/2022/04/10/are-newsletters-the-future-of-free-speech/ [10:31] Alternative link CloudFlare: reason.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://reason.com/2022/04/10/are-newsletters-the-future-of-free-speech/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://reason.com/2022/04/10/are-newsletters-the-future-of-free-speech/ [10:31] TR Bot Are Newsletters the Future of Free Speech? [10:32] TR News "These are all things that cement the states power and further its reach, while making citizens dependent on the state for survival." https://alirezahayati.com/2022/04/10/human-rights-and-the-system/ [10:32] TR Bot Human rights and the system - Ali Reza Hayati [10:35] TR News "Most pirate sites try not to grab the attention of rightsholders and anti-piracy groups" https://torrentfreak.com/popular-torrent-site-lists-mpas-content-protection-chief-as-owner-220410/ [10:35] Alternative link CloudFlare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/popular-torrent-site-lists-mpas-content-protection-chief-as-owner-220410/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://torrentfreak.com/popular-torrent-site-lists-mpas-content-protection-chief-as-owner-220410/ [10:35] TR Bot Torrent Site Lists MPA's Content Protection Chief as Owner * TorrentFreak [10:37] TR News The Day of the Jackal gemini://nytpu.com/flightlog/ [10:43] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163592 [10:43] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [10:53] activelow out of curiosity, compared aarch64/neon-simd with aarch32/hardfloat-abi optimization on cortex a53: zero difference [10:54] activelow the main bottleneck is probably the tiniest 256KiB L2 cache shared among 4 cores anyway [10:55] TR News "It should come as no surprise that Facebook, alongside many big tech companies, opposes anti-monopoly regulatory efforts, expanding antitrust rules" https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/04/10/move-over-weapons-makers-facebooks-wants-its-war-profits-too [10:55] Alternative link CloudFlare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/04/10/move-over-weapons-makers-facebooks-wants-its-war-profits-too https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/04/10/move-over-weapons-makers-facebooks-wants-its-war-profits-too [10:55] TR Bot Opinion | Move Over Weapons Makers, Facebooks Wants Its War Profits Too | Eli Clifton [10:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 25.00 k/sec., IPFS upstream 79.33 average k/sec., average swarm size 322.11 ● Apr 11 [11:05] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@2bkecpj6sjk96.irc) has joined #techrights [11:05] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [11:07] *gooseheaded has quit (Quit: Leaving) [11:08] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [11:14] *gooseheaded has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:16] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [11:24] psydruid 4.x was unusable until 4.4 or 4.5 [11:24] psydruid and now they've done something else to it [11:24] psydruid Tim Pearson, the OpenPOWER guy at Raptor [11:25] TR News Starbucks should go down the drain with the coffee https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/04/10/its-organized-starbucks-workers-vs-oligarchs-city-buffalo [11:25] Alternative link CloudFlare: 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Bot Open Hardware Leftovers | Tux Machines [12:08] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163594 [12:08] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [12:09] TR News Budget Session 2021: A Digital Rights Review https://internetfreedom.in/budget-session-2022-review/ Source: internetfreedom [12:09] Alternative link CloudFlare: internetfreedom.in | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://internetfreedom.in/budget-session-2022-review/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://internetfreedom.in/budget-session-2022-review/ [12:09] TR Bot Budget Session 2021: A Digital Rights Review [12:15] TR News Kodachi 8.16 https://www.digi77.com/linux-kodachi/ [12:15] TR Bot Linux Kodachi 8.16 The Secure OS | Eagle Eye | Nonprofit Organization [12:22] *bnchs (~bnchs@t7hner8s8pjay.irc) has joined #techrights [12:22] bnchs hello [12:22] schestowitz-TR hellp [12:22] schestowitz-TR *o [12:28] *gooseheaded has quit (Quit: Leaving) [12:31] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [12:54] bnchs so apparentally [12:54] bnchs there was a vulnerability in nvidia GPUs [12:54] bnchs or nvidia GPU drivers [12:55] bnchs that allowed you to "brick" the GPU [12:55] bnchs by using a corrupt model [12:55] *gooseheaded has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:55] schestowitz-TR there have always been ,amu [12:55] schestowitz-TR the rumour is [12:55] schestowitz-TR they might be planning to do their own free driver [12:55] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [12:56] bnchs the vulnerability was actually exploited in game [12:56] bnchs games* [12:56] bnchs to brick people's GPUs [12:56] bnchs and it was patched by nvidia [12:57] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [12:59] bnchs schestowitz-TR, really? [12:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.30 k/sec., IPFS upstream 81.03 average k/sec., average swarm size 382.20 ● Apr 11 [13:00] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [13:02] *gooseheaded has quit (Quit: Leaving) [13:02] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [13:37] bnchs https://nitter.net/reddit_lies/status/1510622266979192838 [13:37] TR Bot Reddit Lies (@reddit_lies): "Reddit employee u/Chtorrr was caught cheating on r/place. Threads calling him out were subsequently banned." | nitter [13:37] bnchs it's not that the employee was cheating [13:37] bnchs it's that he resorted to censorship [13:37] bnchs when there were threads calling him out [13:40] bnchs https://nitter.net/WhiteForAReason/status/1510633712354009092 [13:40] TR Bot E-E-Eve (@WhiteForAReason): "I looked into it. "Trolls" kept drawing a picture of a cat and the seething mod was using his powers to erase it. Little did he know that a redditor with an uncharged phone was watching, causing great seething about the reddit paint game." | nitter [13:40] *ziraffep has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:40] bnchs btw in r/place, there's a 5 minute timer after placing pixels [13:40] bnchs but apparently mods are not affected by this rule [13:40] bnchs causing them to cheat [13:43] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@svp6nvmiuarba.irc) has joined #techrights [13:44] TR News Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Apple Shazam Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163595 [13:44] TR Bot Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Apple Shazam | Tux Machines [13:45] bnchs basically [13:45] bnchs r/place is rigged [13:45] bnchs and any threads calling it out is immediately deleted and censored [13:45] bnchs like typical reddit [13:51] bnchs https://teddit.net/r/ShadowBan/comments/txxq27/reddit_shadowbanned_me_and_limited_my_posting_for/ [13:51] TR Bot Reddit shadowbanned me and limited my posting for calling out corruption : ShadowBan [13:51] bnchs lol he got shadowbanned aswell [13:51] bnchs they don't chill in reddit [13:51] *ziraffep has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:51] TR News 5 open source alternatives to Doodle polls Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163596 [13:51] TR Bot 5 open source alternatives to Doodle polls | Tux Machines [13:52] TR News reComputer Jetson mini PCs feature Jetson Nano or Xavier NX modules Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163597 [13:52] TR Bot reComputer Jetson mini PCs feature Jetson Nano or Xavier NX modules | Tux Machines [13:52] TR News The 20 Best KDE Multimedia Apps for Linux System Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163598 [13:52] TR Bot The 20 Best KDE Multimedia Apps for Linux System | Tux Machines [13:52] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163599 [13:52] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [13:55] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@a9k4we53x83yu.irc) has joined #techrights [13:57] *gooseheaded has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Apr 11 [14:00] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [14:02] *ziraffep has quit (connection closed) [14:08] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@iyj9rxy7cmsya.irc) has joined #techrights [14:14] schestowitz-TR Ariadne: this coming weekend, if we have a new contain/vm for tuxmachines on the HV, maybe we can migrate away from centos to something more modern? I think we can handle it without bothering you, it just needs LAMP and SSH (or access via HV) [14:15] TR News SolidRun launches 16-core LX2162A LX2-Lite SOM and ClearFog LX2-Lite development board http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163582#comment-33329 [14:15] TR Bot SolidRun & NXP launch Worlds Smallest 16-Core System on Module | Tux Machines [14:34] *ziraffep has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:34] *SomeH4x0r has quit (connection closed) [14:34] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@phgdj3exxtdc4.irc) has joined #techrights [14:43] *bnchs has quit (connection closed) [14:53] *gooseheaded has quit (Quit: Leaving) [14:56] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [14:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.30 k/sec., IPFS upstream 85.45 average k/sec., average swarm size 328.40 [14:59] TR News Microsofters hate Steam Deck for using Arch Linux and KDE instead of Windows https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpW4QmHsZvI [14:59] TR Bot https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=JpW4QmHsZvI [14:59] TR Bot invidious.snopyta.org | GPD REALLY hates the Steam Deck... and other Steam Deck news! - Invidious [14:59] *gooseheaded has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Apr 11 [15:00] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [15:00] TR News Raleigh Action Show | LINUX Unplugged 453 https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148182/raleigh-action-show-linux-unplugged-453/ [15:00] Alternative link CloudFlare: jupiterbroadcasting.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148182/raleigh-action-show-linux-unplugged-453/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148182/raleigh-action-show-linux-unplugged-453/ [15:00] TR Bot Raleigh Action Show | LINUX Unplugged 453 | Jupiter Broadcasting [15:07] *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #techrights [15:08] *psymin (~psymin@user/psymin) has joined #techrights [15:16] *gooseheaded has quit (Quit: Leaving) [15:18] *tayy has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [15:19] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [15:19] *citoyen has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [15:19] *tayy (~tayy@ns502531.ip-142-4-214.net) has joined #techrights [15:19] *i\o (trttl@192.99.249.220) has joined #techrights [15:20] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:22] *i\o has quit (Changing host) [15:22] *i\o (trttl@user/io/x-8562675) has joined #techrights [15:23] *i\o is now known as citoyen [15:25] TR News Installation and Review of Qubes Linux [Lightweight Distro] https://www.tecmint.com/qubes-linux/ Source: TecMint FreeSW | GNU | Linux [15:25] Alternative link CloudFlare: tecmint.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.tecmint.com/qubes-linux/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.tecmint.com/qubes-linux/ [15:25] TR Bot Installation and Review of Qubes Linux [Lightweight Distro] [15:30] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@eqwffyxpxzpd6.irc) has joined #techrights [15:37] TR News Corporate media has consciously made the term populist synonymous with "Racist" [15:44] TR News 101 Linux Commands Every User Should Know Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163600 [15:44] TR Bot 101 Linux Commands Every User Should Know | Tux Machines [15:46] TR News "Ploum also recommends the book "Rebel Code" by Glynn Moody. I appreciate the recommendation and will definitely be looking into it!" gemini://moddedbear.xyz/logs/2022-01-18-re-design-vs-evolution.gmi [15:47] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163601 [15:47] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [15:49] TR News Russia and Sanctions https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/videos/20220406154700819/ [15:49] TR Bot Why Companies are Still Doing Business in Russia | NHK WORLD-JAPAN News [15:51] TR News Concerns Raised Again Over New EU-U.S. Data Sharing Agreement https://www.dailydot.com/debug/us-eu-data-sharing-mass-surveillance/ Source: dailydot [15:51] Alternative link CloudFlare: dailydot.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.dailydot.com/debug/us-eu-data-sharing-mass-surveillance/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.dailydot.com/debug/us-eu-data-sharing-mass-surveillance/ [15:51] TR Bot Concerns Raised Again Over New EU-U.S. Data Sharing Agreement [15:52] TR News OpenRazer 3.3 adds support for more hardware on Linux | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/openrazer-33-adds-support-for-more-hardware-on-linux/ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games [15:52] Alternative link CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/openrazer-33-adds-support-for-more-hardware-on-linux/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/openrazer-33-adds-support-for-more-hardware-on-linux/ [15:52] TR Bot 3.3 adds support for more hardware on Linux | GamingOnLinux [15:54] TR News "community-built" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/steam-deck-plugin-loader-gets-another-release-should-work-better-now/ can't wait to hear terms like "THE DRM COMMUNITY..." [15:54] Alternative link CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/steam-deck-plugin-loader-gets-another-release-should-work-better-now/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/steam-deck-plugin-loader-gets-another-release-should-work-better-now/ [15:54] TR Bot Deck Plugin Loader gets another release, should work better now | GamingOnLinux [15:56] TR News But Bitcoin was never about anonymity anyway https://www.wired.com/story/tracers-in-the-dark-welcome-to-video-crypto-anonymity-myth/ so now Conde Nast (Wall Street) associated this with assault on children? Even though it's not about privacy at all? [15:56] TR Bot the Bitcoin Bust That Took Down the Webs Biggest Child Abuse Site | WIRED [15:57] *gooseheaded has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Apr 11 [16:00] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [16:01] schestowitz psydruid: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd-pstate-linux517&num=1 [16:01] Alternative link CloudFlare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd-pstate-linux517&num=1 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd-pstate-linux517&num=1 [16:01] TR Bot P-State vs. ACPI CPUFreq Testing With Ryzen Laptops On Linux 5.17 - Phoronix [16:01] TR News "U.S. Treasury moves to keep Russians connected despite sanctions, while Russian regulator Roskomnadzor targets Google" https://www.accessnow.org/digital-rights-ukraine-russia-conflict/ but Gulag is on their side: http://techrights.org/2022/03/10/donetsk-and-gulag-or-google-now-bans-parts-of-ukraine-for-being-invaded-by-russia/ [16:01] Alternative link CloudFlare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/digital-rights-ukraine-russia-conflict/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.accessnow.org/digital-rights-ukraine-russia-conflict/ [16:01] TR Bot Updates: Digital rights in the Russia-Ukraine conflict - Access Now [16:02] TR Bot When Sanctions Go Toxic: Google, Co-Founded by Moscovite, Agrees With Moscow and Recognises Mariupol (Ukraine) as a Part of Russia | Techrights [16:04] psydruid moar bribes [16:24] schestowitz-TR no, donations [16:24] schestowitz-TR "review" units [16:24] schestowitz-TR times X [16:25] schestowitz-TR many years ago purism (librem) offers me a "review" unit [16:25] schestowitz-TR but at least they said it would be temporary ownership, just to review it [16:25] schestowitz-TR 'review' [16:25] schestowitz-TR like I'm a marketer [16:25] schestowitz-TR try michael [16:26] psydruid AMD's attitudes against GNU/Linux and towards Microsoft have put them on the denylist for me [16:26] schestowitz-TR yes [16:26] schestowitz-TR AMD loves Windows [16:26] schestowitz-TR not Microsoft [16:26] psydruid temporary ownership that effectively lasts forever [16:26] schestowitz-TR I don't think AMD truly cares for the niche, "Azure" [16:26] schestowitz-TR but they would fail badly in a RaspPiOS-saturated market [16:26] psydruid AMD is lost without Windows [16:26] psydruid yes [16:26] schestowitz-TR for more than one reason (size, energy, cost, security) [16:27] schestowitz-TR we did lots of work today on the site [16:27] schestowitz-TR instead of articles [16:27] MinceR (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgX6JFoV0TM [16:27] TR Bot https://youtube.076.ne.jp/watch?v=VgX6JFoV0TM [16:27] TR Bot youtube.076.ne.jp | That Mitchell and Webb Look - Evil Genius - Invidious [16:27] schestowitz-TR it's amazing how much a single quad-core arm board can do [16:27] psydruid Intel would manage somehow, even though they've been historically evil [16:27] psydruid yes [16:27] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [16:27] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:27] schestowitz-TR Intel is supported bya regime that robs taxpayers [16:28] schestowitz-TR and bails out "Big Oil" [16:28] schestowitz-TR subsidises rather [16:28] schestowitz-TR Big Banks also [16:28] schestowitz-TR and people stopped being angry about it [16:28] schestowitz-TR because the Web promotes polarity along other lines [16:28] schestowitz-TR race, gender, wing etc. [16:28] psydruid and a quad-core arm board with Intel/Apple like performance will sweep up a lot of marketshare just like that [16:28] schestowitz-TR today I turned on the radio, which is rare [16:28] psydruid but I think part of it is also just running more efficient software [16:29] schestowitz-TR and they talk about families that can no longer buy basic goods [16:29] schestowitz-TR and need to turn to community help [16:29] psydruid the web is an enabler for Intel/Apple/AMD/Microsoft [16:29] schestowitz-TR it's two-way [16:29] psydruid make things heavy enough that people think they need to buy new hardware to participate [16:29] schestowitz-TR they make the web bloated [16:29] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techrights [16:29] schestowitz-TR in turn, the devs pick things like node [16:30] schestowitz-TR and then make the web more bloated [16:30] schestowitz-TR which in turn feeds into a loop [16:30] schestowitz-TR hence gemini's popularity [16:30] schestowitz-TR people go, hey, hang on sec [16:30] schestowitz-TR should ANY computer need 500MB of RAM allocated to an IRC chat? [16:31] schestowitz-TR or, why do I need so much stuff to read 5 paragraphs of an article from AP? [16:31] schestowitz-TR same for crApps [16:32] psydruid I expect there is going to be a huge countermovement that is going to make these companies obsolete [16:32] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [16:32] psydruid it will not be nice, but it's only natural [16:32] psydruid like the fall of Rome [16:35] schestowitz-TR psydruid: now the CS students are made to think or assume they have 1990s supercomputer [16:35] schestowitz-TR 4 GB of RAM [16:35] schestowitz-TR minimum [16:35] schestowitz-TR and thousands of nhz times cores [16:35] schestowitz-TR this is wrong [16:36] schestowitz-TR morally wrong too, given what that leads to (environment, security etc) [16:41] schestowitz-TR psydruid: fall of Rome(TM) [16:41] schestowitz-TR 24xRome(TM) 128 cores [16:41] schestowitz-TR 12xRome(TM) 64 cores [16:41] schestowitz-TR love, AMD. Now go benchmark it. [16:41] schestowitz-TR Invoice on us. [16:42] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:43] psydruid lol [16:43] psydruid pretending everyone needs this hardware [16:45] psydruid phoronix commenters aren't even asking questions anymore [16:45] psydruid so great is their "love" for Linux on AMD (and Intel) [16:57] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@857feqnpqcr82.irc) has joined #techrights ● Apr 11 [17:02] *gooseheaded has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:03] *matey (~matey@nfww67wta6gsu.irc) has joined #techrights [17:05] matey flameshot eh [17:06] schestowitz yes, try it [17:06] matey i mean youve already got kde and/or xfce [17:06] matey which surely come with a screenshot tool [17:06] matey the kde one at least will be github free [17:06] matey so youve got a github-based screenshot tool, which needs d-bus? [17:07] DaemonFC Okay, so I'm ready to go over and buy the Buick whenever I can actually catch my mechanic at the shop. [17:07] matey and they recommend you load it at startup because its slow to open [17:07] SomeH4x0r hi [17:07] matey but i figured it was github. the d-bus part is the one that gets me. [17:07] matey hi SomeH4x0r [17:07] DaemonFC I don't even think they ever had cars as big as a 2008 Buick in Europe. [17:07] matey to each his own of course, its definitely not for me [17:08] DaemonFC I don't think there's any room for one there anyway. [17:08] matey yeah you have to see a european clotheswasher [17:08] matey which is still more than i need personally, but its not rare to find it in the kitchen without a dryer [17:08] matey i think a lot of people have those wooden racks for a dryer [17:09] matey or a good old fashioned clothesline [17:09] matey but i didnt do a survey [17:09] matey maybe the ones i knew were amish or something [17:11] DaemonFC 24xRome(TM) 128 cores [17:11] DaemonFC Hell, my laptop has 4 cores @ a maximum of over 4 Ghz, with hyperthreading on each core. [17:11] DaemonFC It's so easy to do now that it's done because it can be. [17:11] matey to be fair to flameshot, who knows if you can even take a screenshot in wayland anymore without dbus [17:11] matey we should be happy gnome itself isnt required [17:12] DaemonFC My laptop CPU is at least 25 times faster than my desktop was in 2006. [17:12] matey today gnome and dbus, tomorrow windows on a separate partition [17:12] DaemonFC Fedora uses dbus-broker. Debian 11 still doesn't. [17:12] matey /me figures gnome will just hook into ntkernel any day now [17:13] matey dbus-broker <- broker than the original dbus? [17:14] matey i aint sayin shes a developer, but she aint messin with no broke broke [17:15] *bnchs (~bnchs@t7hner8s8pjay.irc) has joined #techrights [17:17] bnchs hello [17:18] matey hi [17:18] bnchs i've realized something [17:19] bnchs a user said on some IRC network that if 16/32 GB ram was good for full stack web dev [17:19] matey christ [17:19] bnchs i could do that shit in 4 GB [17:19] *Errr has quit (connection closed) [17:19] bnchs let alone 2 GB [17:19] bnchs but this is the state of website obesity [17:20] bnchs what it has gotten us [17:20] matey yep [17:20] bnchs you need a machine with 32 GB ram to make a website [17:20] matey theres a bigger and worse picture too [17:20] matey this is what happens to EVERY FEATURE if we let corporations fuck with it for long enough [17:20] matey not just the web [17:20] matey anything you can imagine [17:21] matey but yeah, they really wanted the web to be like this shit, and they got what they wanted [17:21] matey and people are like "oh, theyre has-beens, they have no power" [17:21] matey theyve got a lot of power to fuck things up for good [17:21] bnchs i've wrote my website's backend in C [17:21] bnchs to optimize as much as i can [17:21] matey /me thinks perl or lua would suffice [17:22] bnchs but i said that 16/32 GB was too overkill for full stack web dev [17:22] bnchs but then he said he was doing react and .net crap [17:22] matey the web is overkill [17:22] matey react and .net crap <- lol [17:22] matey i go to too many websites and they show an error from the backend [17:23] matey sometimes they never get fixed, theyre just left that way [17:23] bnchs lol [17:23] bnchs upgrading asp.net is death for your website [17:23] bnchs unless you like rewriting your scripts out of deprecated functions [17:23] matey whats the point of keeping a server, domain or hosting running if youre only going to return a message that says something isnt working [17:24] matey deprecated = fuck standards, fuck stability [17:24] matey southern plantations in the early 1800s: "developers, developers, developers!" [17:24] matey "what are they developing?" [17:24] matey "whatever we tell them to!" [17:25] MinceR deprecated = "i can't compete with this, please pretend it doesn't exist" [17:25] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@hcrn6rqiqu2ra.irc) has joined #techrights [17:25] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [17:26] bnchs i'm pretty sure i've seen php scripts last more than asp.net scrips [17:26] matey php (github) is probably more stable than asp.net somehow [17:27] chunky you use yahoo for email + u buy tokens on cam sites + you got 8 booster shots + you blame black folk for ruining your life + missing keys on your keyboard + your links r 404 + u smell like hotdog water [17:27] bnchs "you blame black folk for ruining your life" [17:27] bnchs the story of daemonfc [17:28] matey chunky is trying to compose an insult that gets everybody [17:28] chunky you use hotmail + die mad + u have a favorite commercial + cheap cologne + u take supplements (bad diet) + u wear a bath robe + u wake up and check your likes on instagram [17:28] matey now thats what i call "inclusive" [17:28] MinceR poorly targeted, though [17:28] bnchs "you use hotmail" [17:29] matey u wear a bathrobe = linus? [17:29] chunky BURN!!! [17:29] bnchs "u wake up and check your likes on instagram" [17:29] bnchs take this to twitter [17:29] chunky oh am i not allowed to chat in the chat room now bnchs ?? [17:29] chunky :( [17:29] bnchs because we don't use microsoft email and instagram [17:29] bnchs chunky, nah [17:29] bnchs i'm just saying [17:29] bnchs that if you're gonna insult everyone [17:29] bnchs at least target them correctly [17:30] MinceR https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/984/565/ebc.gif [17:30] matey i think hes just doing random things to see who reacts [17:30] TR News Material Shell Extension added support to Gnome 42 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163602 [17:30] TR Bot Material Shell Extension added support to Gnome 42 | Tux Machines [17:31] matey sometimes i try chatting up people on the street this way "hey, you fuck your uncle-- you have a flaky skin disorder-- you put pork in your breakfast cereal" [17:31] matey the neck brace is working out nicely though [17:32] bnchs well uhhh [17:32] bnchs that's too rude [17:32] matey youll never know the optimum level of rude without careful experimentation! [17:32] bnchs yeah the maximum level is calling them a racial slur [17:33] bnchs they're either gonna laugh or gonna tear your shit apart [17:33] matey dfc would just laugh [17:33] matey mincer would just go :> [17:33] matey incidentally, :> means "i am so done with your entire fucking species" [17:34] matey it depends on context obviously [17:34] bnchs ok so mincer is not a human? [17:34] matey i dont know, hes withstood this chat since 2008, so maybe he isnt [17:34] XRevan86 MinceR: Impressive work. [17:36] matey then again, if he hadnt spent the past 14 years in this chat, maybe he wouldnt be so done with humanity :) [17:36] bnchs matey: if he wasn't a human, i wouldn't mind [17:36] matey oh i wasnt planning to hold it against him [17:37] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=HE3OuHukrmQ [17:37] TR Bot Porno for Pyros - Pets - Invidious [17:40] matey im not saying shes a looker (shes alright i guess) but the woman at 1:47 looks like my former fiancee in the uk [17:41] matey ive actually never seen this video, but the song seemed like a good one for mincer [17:41] matey i havent heard it in 20 years at least [17:43] matey this video is like 10% creepshots, i doubt it was intended that way [17:47] matey "Pets" deals with dissatisfaction with the human race ("Adults are even more fucked up") and how it is on the brink of destruction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pets_(song) [17:47] TR Bot Pets (song) - Wikipedia [17:48] DaemonFC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF3q7o8Yjrg [17:48] TR Bot https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=dF3q7o8Yjrg [17:48] TR Bot vid.puffyan.us | Lincoln Park Pirates - Invidious [17:49] DaemonFC A Chicago folk song about a notorious car towing company that still exists. [17:50] matey "A Chicago folk song" lol [17:50] matey fair play [17:51] matey when i read "lincoln park" i was expecting something VERY different [17:51] matey this really is a folk song [17:51] DaemonFC "All my drivers are friendly and courteous. Their good manners you always will get, because they're all recent graduates of the charm school in Joliet." [17:51] DaemonFC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joliet_Correctional_Center [17:51] TR Bot Joliet Correctional Center - Wikipedia [17:52] matey "be it edsel or chevy theres no car too heavy and no one can make us shut down" [17:53] DaemonFC "They say this business has no license, but little care I for the law!" [17:53] DaemonFC :) [17:53] matey /me thinks lincoln park should cover this [17:54] matey the fact that they spell it "linkin park" is a minor detail [17:55] matey the fact that theyre from california is also a minor detail [17:55] *schestowitz has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:55] *schestowitz (~roy@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [17:55] *irc.techrights.org sets mode +q #techrights schestowitz [17:56] psydroid2 I don't think they exist anymore [17:56] psydroid2 after the singer offed himself [17:58] bnchs i've tried out kiwix [17:58] bnchs in a phone [17:58] bnchs downloaded the entire english wikipedia with pics and videos [17:58] bnchs and although with some download issues [17:58] bnchs it works [17:59] *psydroid2 should write a patch to add support for an ignore function in Dino [17:59] bnchs it also allows you to send your downloaded files to another phone [17:59] XRevan86 psydroid2: A fellow biboumi user? [17:59] psydroid2 chunky is now dead to me on the IRC side of things [17:59] bnchs and a mirror server (works as a hotspot) ● Apr 11 [18:00] psydroid2 XRevan86, yes [18:00] psydroid2 although this is me on Hexchat [18:00] chunky i'm a free-speecher [18:00] bnchs chunky, people have a right to ignore you [18:00] chunky wow! [18:01] chunky never thought about that before bnchs [18:01] chunky learn so much in this chat [18:02] bnchs i think there should be more apps [18:02] bnchs that allow you to share device to device [18:02] bnchs without internet connection or some bullshit [18:03] chunky and they should all be built on top of ssh! [18:03] bnchs i think you can do that with a wifi hotspot [18:03] bnchs it works and can share data without internet or the clown [18:04] chunky u really think that's possible? sharing data w/ networked devices? [18:04] matey should write a patch to add support for an ignore function in Dino <- [18:04] matey /me is literally using grep as an ignore feature [18:04] bnchs yeah [18:05] matey well, egrep [18:05] bnchs establish a network using wifi hotspot [18:05] bnchs then you can share data between devices in the network [18:05] bnchs i tried it out with a HTTP server [18:05] bnchs and FTP [18:05] matey im not sure chaining two greps would work, its a miracle that even one works (given the nature of stdin which is more mysterious than ever) [18:06] chunky you can pipe grep into grep [18:06] chunky why not? [18:06] matey its complicated [18:06] matey for stdout -> stdin -> stdout of course it works, why wouldnt it [18:07] matey but for stdin -> programs farther up the pipeline to work is the mystery [18:07] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/04/01/reddit-thanks-i-hate-it-4-1-22/ [18:07] Alternative link CloudFlare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/04/01/reddit-thanks-i-hate-it-4-1-22/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/04/01/reddit-thanks-i-hate-it-4-1-22/ [18:07] TR Bot You Know, You Dont HAVE To Share Everything You See On The Internet (19 Posts) [18:07] matey in other words, how the fuck am i typing this? [18:08] bnchs i said this earlier [18:08] bnchs but there's a story on r/place [18:09] bnchs apparently some "trolls" drew a cat, and the mod responded by trying to erase it (there was a 5 minute cooldown for drawing pixels, but mods are not affected by this) [18:09] bnchs a guy recorded it and posted it on r/place [18:09] bnchs and then the mod deleted his thread and shadowbanned him as fast as he could [18:10] matey /me thinks reddit is a country on another planet, like china [18:10] matey most of the world seems like earth to me [18:10] matey reddit is an exception [18:10] bnchs i think there was another mod [18:11] bnchs that also deleted any threads exposing him cheating on r/place [18:11] matey cheating? [18:11] bnchs yes [18:11] bnchs users had a 5 minute cooldown per pixel drawn [18:11] matey in 2 lines or less (unless you actually want more) what are the rules? [18:11] bnchs but apparently he was drawing a pixel every second [18:12] matey oh [18:12] *psydroid2 must have lost the plot and his place on this chat [18:12] *gooseheaded has quit (Quit: Leaving) [18:12] matey so its some collaborative drawing thing? [18:12] bnchs yeah [18:12] chunky oh man [18:12] matey and you can only submit a pixel every 5 minutes [18:12] chunky if u guys wanna draw check out https://fuckhole.org/~canvashole/ [18:12] TR Bot drawholejones [18:13] matey "fuckhole dot org" [18:13] chunky Pick Colour Pete is waiting for u [18:13] chunky to pick a color [18:13] matey /me hopes theyre a registered not-for-profit corporation [18:13] bnchs r/place has been on everywhere lately [18:13] bnchs the enws [18:13] bnchs news* [18:13] bnchs youtube trending [18:13] bnchs but reddit (and its reputation of censorship and corruption) is not a good place for it [18:13] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [18:14] matey /me thinks they should just change the name to bannit already [18:15] MinceR "What the bloody hell is a fuckhole?" [18:15] matey or soviit [18:15] bnchs chunky, wtf is this site [18:15] matey since joseph ellen took over its just not reddit anymore [18:16] bnchs goatse on front page [18:16] matey stellen [18:16] chunky its canvashole [18:16] chunky for drawing [18:16] bnchs doesn't even work [18:16] bnchs cant draw [18:17] matey /me can draw on his screen just fine [18:17] matey /me cleans it off with rubbing alchohol [18:18] *gooseheaded has quit (Quit: Leaving) [18:18] TR News Over 200 COVID-19 Deaths Today (But Dont Worry, Go Watch Football) http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/04/11/dont-worry-go-watch-football/ [18:18] TR Bot Blog Archive Over 200 COVID-19 Deaths Today (But Dont Worry, Go Watch Football) [18:19] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [18:19] matey /me thinks they should make a cover for your monitor that lets you draw on it with dry-erase markers [18:19] matey but it shouldnt be used around kids, who will get the idea that you can draw on any screen... [18:20] bnchs thats a cool idea [18:20] bnchs for highlighting crap [18:20] matey i mean there are all sorts of ways to do this digitally of course [18:20] matey but these days none of them would work anyway [18:21] matey without installing a second os or some shit [18:21] bnchs i have a whiteboard for visualizing computer crap [18:21] bnchs for ideas [18:22] matey there was even a program like this that i think only used x11 calls itself [18:22] matey gnome can make a very nice program that does this if they dont have one [18:22] matey but theyll only break it in a few years anyway [18:23] matey also fuck gnome [18:24] chunky guys today is post screenshots of your desktop day [18:24] chunky the CEO of tech rights told me [18:24] matey there is no ceo, and the calendar says its make up bullshit calendar dates day [18:24] schestowitz-TR patent FUD rebuttal Sunday [18:25] matey on a monday? weird [18:25] matey lawyers for you [18:25] schestowitz-TR it is a lot more beneficent in this form [18:25] bnchs chunky, i refuse [18:25] schestowitz-TR no, didn't post screenshots today [18:25] chunky fine [18:25] bnchs schestowitz-TR, what is this patent FUD rebuttal [18:26] matey my desktop is dwm running xterm with a rude gesture rendered full screen in utf-8 [18:26] bnchs post screenshot [18:26] schestowitz-TR EPO and UPC mostly [18:26] schestowitz-TR but not limited to that [18:26] schestowitz-TR the idea is not to send traffic to the FUD source [18:26] schestowitz-TR same thing we did with videos for 8 weeks [18:26] matey post screenshot <- i just did, thats a screenshot in text-only mode :) [18:27] bnchs ok we'll do it that way [18:27] bnchs my desktop is xfce4 with the taskbar on top and phu quoc beach as wallpaper [18:27] chunky i use sway btw [18:27] *Ariadne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:27] matey its an alt-text screenshot, its fully accessible [18:28] bnchs it's specifically this as my wallpaper: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Phu_quoc_plage_sao.jpg [18:28] Alternative link CloudFlare: wikimedia.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Phu_quoc_plage_sao.jpg https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Phu_quoc_plage_sao.jpg [18:28] TR Bot File:Phu quoc plage sao.jpg - Wikimedia Commons [18:28] bnchs GFDL or CC-BY-SA [18:28] *Ariadne (~sid506515@f7nyrize3ti94.irc) has joined #techrights [18:28] matey phu quoc beach <- i went there once, its a phu quoc lovely place [18:28] bnchs mixed license picture lol [18:29] bnchs but still free [18:29] schestowitz-TR if you can think of a better strategy for refuting FUD, tell me [18:29] schestowitz-TR the older approach was link plus editorial comment [18:29] schestowitz-TR but that was getting the lies more exposure [18:29] schestowitz-TR hence rather counter-productive [18:30] matey if you can think of a better strategy for refuting FUD, tell me <- i think posting the url without making a link is sufficient [18:30] matey but im sure google crawls it anyway [18:30] bnchs i brokemykeyboard [18:30] schestowitz-TR but the idea is to show people who you respond to [18:30] schestowitz-TR without context, it's weaker [18:31] matey yes the url does that (it also satisfies the license) [18:31] matey also if they really want to they can copy/paste (or even triple-click) the url [18:31] matey but most wont [18:32] matey and as i said, google probably still crawls it [18:32] matey its reasonable to assume whenever google finds a url it says "oh, a url... lets see where it goes" [18:33] matey video is more obfuscated, so thats an advantage if you REALLY want to stick it to them [18:39] TR News Looking back on IBMs game-changing mainframe moments - Reseller News https://www.reseller.co.nz/article/696906/looking-back-ibm-game-changing-mainframe-moments/ Source: reseller [18:39] TR Bot Looking back on IBM's game-changing mainframe moments - Reseller News [18:40] bnchs game changing [18:40] bnchs IBM changed the game, man [18:40] bnchs it was a game [18:41] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/04/05/information-that-feels-illegal-to-know/ [18:41] bnchs IBM threw away the old game [18:41] Alternative link CloudFlare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/04/05/information-that-feels-illegal-to-know/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/04/05/information-that-feels-illegal-to-know/ [18:41] TR Bot 30 Bits Of Information People Have Learned That Feel Illegal To Know [18:41] bnchs and replaced it with a shitter game [18:41] schestowitz-TR "no shame in the game" [18:45] bnchs whats the game called [18:45] matey ibm only lets you fix a bug every 5 days [18:45] bnchs helping the nazis? [18:45] matey but the developers arent held to this rule [18:46] matey so they can create bugs faster than you can fix them [18:46] bnchs the mosque's loudspeaker is spouting out random creepy noises [18:46] matey maybe its a number station [18:47] matey in arabic of course [18:47] bnchs lol he's testing the feedback [18:47] matey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numbers_station [18:47] TR Bot Numbers station - Wikipedia [18:47] bnchs on the speakers [18:47] bnchs it's gonna be a fun day [18:47] matey Most identified stations use speech synthesis to vocalize numbers, although digital modes such as phase-shift keying and frequency-shift keying, as well as Morse code transmissions, are not uncommon. [18:49] bnchs he saying some kind of word over and over [18:49] bnchs and high frequency crap afterwards [18:49] bnchs definitely a number station [18:49] psydroid2 gulagtube has built in a 40-second delay if you don't use their official web site and app (with ads) [18:49] bnchs psydroid2, example? [18:50] psydroid2 bnchs, try playing anything with newpipe [18:50] psydroid2 or mpv [18:50] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:51] bnchs psydroid2, no delay on my end [18:51] bnchs used mpv [18:51] psydroid2 I've noticed it here recently [18:52] psydroid2 let me see if I can find any more information on it [18:52] bnchs well i know they throttle your download speed if you don't pass their challenge [18:52] bnchs (which was meant to catch unoffical clients) [18:52] matey gulagtube has built in a 40-second delay if you don't use their official web site and app (with ads) <- i seem to be unaffected [18:52] matey give me a youtube url [18:52] bnchs but then programs like yt-dlp and newpipe [18:52] bnchs found a way around it [18:53] matey bnchs: exactly [18:53] matey also a 40 second delay isnt a big deal if you cache whatever you dl [18:54] psydroid2 https://teddit.net/r/fossdroid/comments/u0i6ov/is_it_just_me_or_is_newpipe_opening_videos_with_a/ [18:54] TR Bot Is it just me or is newpipe opening videos with a lot of delay? : fossdroid [18:54] matey theyre only punishing people for streaming [18:54] psydroid2 I think it's different on the mpv frontend I use [18:55] psydroid2 the first time I add a video to the playlist there is a delay, but when playing it there isn't a delay anymore [18:55] psydroid2 but it shows to what extents gulag goes to secure its revenue [18:56] matey naturally [18:56] *matey has quit (connection closed) [18:57] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@26txficfvx7mg.irc) has joined #techrights [18:59] *zleap (~zleap@user/zleap) has joined #techrights [18:59] *gooseheaded has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Apr 11 [19:01] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [19:02] bnchs psydroid2, i wouldn't be surprised if it was true [19:02] bnchs gulag has a vendetta against alternative frontends and clients [19:02] bnchs because less ad money [19:03] bnchs including adblockers [19:03] psydroid2 yeah, I never see youtube ads [19:03] psydroid2 because I don't use the website [19:07] *zleap has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [19:08] bnchs psydroid2, they try to bypass the adblockers all the time [19:08] bnchs by making changes that break the adblock filters [19:09] psydroid2 bnchs, they have also said that your service may be terminated if you are not beneficial to them [19:09] bnchs yeah [19:10] bnchs like if you show people privacy/security/freedom tips [19:10] bnchs that's not profitable [19:10] bnchs FOR THEM [19:11] MinceR (cat) (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BP2_BHwQ4dQ [19:11] TR Bot https://invidious.osi.kr/watch?v=BP2_BHwQ4dQ [19:11] TR Bot invidious.osi.kr | Cute cat's reaction to chickens trying to steal her food - Invidious [19:11] bnchs MinceR, are you a cat? [19:12] MinceR no [19:12] psydroid2 bnchs, have there been instances where such videos or even whole accounts have been removed for that reason? [19:12] MinceR i just ate some theobromine and i'm fine [19:12] bnchs psydroid2, i don't like [19:12] bnchs i don't know* [19:12] MinceR and i could taste the sweetness of chocolate [19:13] bnchs youtube has a history of sliently sabatoging channels [19:13] bnchs by shadowbanning them [19:13] bnchs like leafyishere [19:13] MinceR i also had some caffeine and that didn't poison me either [19:14] bnchs he was a popular gulagtuber [19:14] bnchs until gulagtube made a plot to ruin his channel [19:14] bnchs because of how toxic it was [19:14] bnchs or "toxic" [19:14] bnchs "toxic"* [19:17] *zleap (~zleap@user/zleap) has joined #techrights [19:17] TR News LinuxHints Latest C++ Tutorials Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163603 [19:17] TR Bot LinuxHint's Latest C++ Tutorials | Tux Machines [19:18] bnchs MinceR, well i guess that makes sense [19:24] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [19:27] *gooseheaded has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:34] AdmFubar https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/android-banking-malware-intercepts-calls-to-customer-support/ [19:34] Alternative link CloudFlare: bleepingcomputer.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/android-banking-malware-intercepts-calls-to-customer-support/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/android-banking-malware-intercepts-calls-to-customer-support/ [19:34] TR Bot Android banking malware intercepts calls to customer support [19:35] bnchs lol [19:35] bnchs welcome to android, time to MITM in your calls [19:35] bnchs pegasus: MITM in your calls [19:35] bnchs fuck wiretapping [19:35] bnchs all my boys use android [19:39] *schestowitz-TR has quit (connection closed) [19:39] *rianne_ has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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[19:56] psydroid2 divide and conquer is keeping people from seeing what is the actual situation [19:57] TR News LibreOffice 7.3 review - Not a turning point Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163604 [19:57] TR Bot LibreOffice 7.3 review - Not a turning point | Tux Machines [19:57] TR News How to Copy Paste in Vi https://linuxhint.com/copy-paste-in-vi/ Source: LinuxHint | GNU | Linux | FreeSW [19:57] Alternative link CloudFlare: linuxhint.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxhint.com/copy-paste-in-vi/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://linuxhint.com/copy-paste-in-vi/ [19:57] TR Bot How to Copy Paste in Vi ● Apr 11 [20:02] TR News Automate checking for flaws in Python with Thoth https://opensource.com/article/22/4/automate-security-checks-open-source-libraries-thoth [20:02] TR Bot checking for flaws in Python with Thoth | Opensource.com [20:03] TR News 6 reasons this nonprofit chose Backdrop for its open source CMS | https://opensource.com/article/22/4/backdrop-cms Source: FreeSW "technology blossomed, used Mambo (and Joomla after it forked). We then moved on and have used WordPress and Drupal for years now. As things evolve and change, we always have to re-assess and adjust course as necessary based on the audience we are servin" [20:03] TR Bot reasons this nonprofit chose Backdrop for its open source CMS | Opensource.com [20:04] TR News IDG is posting "Linux" now... but only as pure webspam ("Get 12 Linux certification training courses on sale for just $69 today") [20:06] TR News "Sometimes I find myself wishing that I have a Linux desktop that I can access remotely. Whilst having a cloud-based desktop is not new, it is, however, a bit expensive when used sparingly." https://mb.com.ph/2022/04/11/spinning-up-my-own-cloud-desktop/ [20:06] Alternative link CloudFlare: mb.com.ph | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://mb.com.ph/2022/04/11/spinning-up-my-own-cloud-desktop/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://mb.com.ph/2022/04/11/spinning-up-my-own-cloud-desktop/ [20:06] TR Bot Spinning up my own cloud desktop Manila Bulletin [20:07] bnchs "my cloud desktop" [20:07] bnchs it's not YOURS [20:07] bnchs it's rented [20:10] TR News Dependencies for new app compiled in OE [OpenEmbedded] https://bkhome.org/news/202204/dependencies-for-new-app-compiled-in-oe.html [20:10] TR Bot Dependencies for new app compiled in OE [20:10] TR News New Rock/OMLx 4.3 snapshot ISOs (Fixes bug 2657) https://www.openmandriva.org/en/breve/new-rock-omlx-4-3-snapshot-isos-fixes-bug-2657 [20:10] TR Bot New Rock/OMLx 4.3 snapshot ISOs (Fixes bug 2657) - OpenMandriva [20:11] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [20:11] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 45.20 k/sec., IPFS upstream 155.31 average k/sec., average swarm size 148.30 [20:11] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 45.20 k/sec., IPFS upstream 155.31 average k/sec., average swarm size 148.30 [20:11] TR News Microphone? https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/11/maple-eye-esp32-s3-board-offers-2mp-camera-microphone-and-two-lcd-displays/ [20:11] Alternative link CloudFlare: cnx-software.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/11/maple-eye-esp32-s3-board-offers-2mp-camera-microphone-and-two-lcd-displays/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/11/maple-eye-esp32-s3-board-offers-2mp-camera-microphone-and-two-lcd-displays/ [20:11] TR Bot Maple Eye ESP32-S3 board offers 2MP camera, microphone, and two LCD displays - CNX Software [20:11] *alextee (~alextee@6dnbcysen4j3a.irc) has joined #techrights [20:13] AdmFubar https://restofworld.org/2022/newsletter-south-asia-exploding-e-scooters-are-spooking-indian-users/ [20:13] TR Bot E-scooters are bursting into flames in India and buyers are spooked - Rest of World [20:15] TR News IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163605 [20:15] TR Bot IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines [20:16] TR News Games: OpenRazer, Valheim, Steam, and SNES on Android Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163606 [20:16] TR Bot Games: OpenRazer, Valheim, Steam, and SNES on Android | Tux Machines [20:17] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/afternoon-meme-dump-21-memes-15.jpg [20:17] Alternative link CloudFlare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/afternoon-meme-dump-21-memes-15.jpg https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/afternoon-meme-dump-21-memes-15.jpg [20:18] TR News EndeavourOS: The Apollo release has landed Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163607 [20:18] TR Bot EndeavourOS: The Apollo release has landed | Tux Machines [20:20] bnchs schestowitz, i wonder why the SNES on android article on tux machines encourages non-free emulators [20:20] schestowitz-TR a lot of the game section is nonfree [20:20] bnchs yeah i know [20:21] bnchs but there are free SNES emulators that work [20:21] bnchs on android [20:21] bnchs but the list also mixes non-free emulators (which are just copies of existing free emulators with ads or in-app purchases on them) [20:22] schestowitz-TR games are in general worse than that [20:22] schestowitz-TR because of DRM [20:22] *CrystalMath (~coderain@wtika53zhf7my.irc) has joined #techrights [20:22] schestowitz-TR and tim wine-e want rootkits too [20:22] bnchs yes [20:22] bnchs tim swine-e wants rootkits integrated into the kernel [20:22] schestowitz-TR inside the kernel [20:22] schestowitz-TR to play a game [20:23] schestowitz-TR swine-e <3 BoRAT [20:23] bnchs but the rootkits wont help [20:23] bnchs i see people with modified clients on these proprietary games [20:23] bnchs especially tim swine-e fortnite [20:24] bnchs and most of these game servers break the number one rule [20:24] bnchs don't trust the client [20:27] TR News Cutefish OS is the cutest Linux distribution youll ever use Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163608 [20:27] TR Bot Cutefish OS is the cutest Linux distribution you'll ever use | Tux Machines [20:28] *psydroid2 wants a rootkit stuffed up tim swine-e's $#%! [20:29] SomeH4x0r this trust issue is in Minetest, free game, as well [20:43] TR News IRC Proceedings: Sunday, April 10, 2022 Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/11/irc-log-100422/ Source: Techrights | GNU | Linux | FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/11/irc-log-100422/ [20:43] TR Bot IRC Proceedings: Sunday, April 10, 2022 | Techrights [20:43] TR News Weve decided to make extensive use of Flameshot (GPLv3-licensed) to efficiently rebut the endless lies from patent maximalists and spinners of the EPO http://techrights.org/2022/04/10/responding-to-fake-news/ [20:43] TR Bot Effectively Responding to Fake News in the Age of Corrupt EPO Management, Controlled by Team UPC/Litigation Lobby | Techrights [20:49] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/03/29/50-best-tweets-all-time/ [20:49] Alternative link CloudFlare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/03/29/50-best-tweets-all-time/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/03/29/50-best-tweets-all-time/ [20:49] TR Bot People Are Sharing Their Favorite Tweets Of All Time For Twitter's Anniversary (50+ Tweets) [20:51] XRevan86 https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/04/11/they-ve-written-us-off [20:51] Alternative link CloudFlare: meduza.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/04/11/they-ve-written-us-off https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/04/11/they-ve-written-us-off [20:51] TR Bot NO TITLE [20:51] XRevan86 > On April 11, self-declared Donetsk Peoples Republic defense spokesman Eduard Basurin said that three or four thousand little nationalists were sheltering at the Azovstal factory. The Ukrainian troops now occupy the factorys underground floors, said Basurin, making it difficult to storm the compound. As a result, the DNR official suggested that invading forces might block all t [20:51] XRevan86 he buildings entrances and exits before deploying chemical troops against the citys last-remaining defenders. Theyll find a way to smoke these moles out of their holes, Basurin said. [20:51] XRevan86 They weren't kidding. [20:52] TR News In this tutorial, we will show you how to install Prometheus on AlmaLinux 8, as well as some extra required packages by Prometheus [20:52] TR News Interview with Eben Upton Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163610 [20:52] TR Bot Interview with Eben Upton | Tux Machines [20:53] XRevan86 Chemical weapons were used in Mariupol. [20:54] TR News IPFire 2.27 - Core Update 167 is available for testing Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163611 [20:54] TR Bot IPFire 2.27 - Core Update 167 is available for testing | Tux Machines [20:55] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [20:55] XRevan86 I consider Mariupol to be taken then. [20:56] XRevan86 Unless there's some unknown factor, they killed everyone. [20:58] XRevan86 They weren't fucking kidding. 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[21:09] TR News Games: Steam, Book of Travels, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163614 [21:09] TR Bot Games: Steam, Book of Travels, and More | Tux Machines [21:10] schestowitz-TR That what we called our old boss [21:10] schestowitz-TR "Sarin" [21:10] schestowitz-TR She was very toxic [21:11] MinceR :> [21:11] *XRevan86 can't do a ":>" right now. 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[21:33] TR News Presidential elections in France, round 1 gemini://dece.space/notes/20220411-elections-round-1.gmi [21:34] TR News "RAM is a precious resource on any server. Look at VPS servers, and you'll be hard pressed to find one with much more than 32 Gb." gemini://marginalia.nu/log/55-lexicon-rubberduck.gmi [21:35] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: us uses chemical weapons [21:35] schestowitz-TR investigate both nations [21:35] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: biden should use agent organe [21:35] schestowitz-TR on putin [21:35] schestowitz-TR send him over on air force one [21:35] schestowitz-TR one-way ticket [21:35] schestowitz-TR sooner or later mobs will attack the kremlin [21:35] schestowitz-TR gn [21:36] XRevan86 Good night. [21:36] XRevan86 Let's hope we don't wake up in WW3. Though the alternative is not necessarily better. [21:41] * (~33c36bec@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [21:44] [21:46] XRevan86 [21:47] XRevan86 , . [21:49] ? [21:49] XRevan86 : ? [21:50] ? [21:51] XRevan86 : "?"? ? [21:51] SomeH4x0r [21:51] XRevan86 * [21:56] XRevan86 : ? [21:58] SomeH4x0r afk [21:59] [21:59] XRevan86 , , . [21:59] MinceR most of us don't understand much ukrainian (or any other slavic language) ● Apr 11 [22:00] XRevan86 MinceR: Sorry, but I like to show off sometimes. [22:00] psydroid2 [22:00] psydroid2 [22:00] MinceR :> [22:01] SomeH4x0r , [22:01] SomeH4x0r afk [22:02] [22:03] bnchs presidential election in france [22:03] bnchs macron and shit [22:03] XRevan86 No idea what that's supposed to mean. [22:03] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [22:03] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [22:03] bnchs oh did i step into russian discussion [22:03] MinceR mostly ukrainian, if not entirely [22:03] [22:04] XRevan86 bnchs: It's not very coherent. [22:06] Alexei Sorokin [22:07] XRevan86 - ? [22:07] *bnchs__ (~bnchs@t8xvr8vj4spta.irc) has joined #techrights [22:09] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:09] bnchs__ this is what you get when you lookup xrevan86 [22:10] from [22:10] XRevan86 All similiarities are coincidental. [22:11] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:11] *activelow (~activelow@txkdaiuveepza.irc) has joined #techrights [22:11] MinceR (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmVnr7rsWrE [22:11] TR Bot https://invidious.osi.kr/watch?v=qmVnr7rsWrE [22:11] TR Bot invidious.osi.kr | That Mitchell and Webb Look - Grammar Nazi - Invidious [22:11] [22:11] XRevan86 URA is being very random, no one mentioned politruks even once. [22:12] https://military-history.fandom.com/wiki/Alexei_Sorokin [22:12] TR Bot Alexei Sorokin | Military Wiki | Fandom [22:12] XRevan86 The submarine? [22:12] tak [22:12] MinceR lol [22:13] bnchs__ alexei sorokin does not do clop [22:14] *techrights_guest|84 (~ac382654@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [22:14] XRevan86 : The submarine? [22:14] XRevan86 oops [22:15] *SomeH4x0r has quit (connection closed) [22:15] XRevan86 : That's me, 100 years old, yep. [22:15] I KNOW ENGLISH TO FOR YOU TAKE FOR SOME ILLITERATE ? [22:16] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@6byxczt6txq2u.irc) has joined #techrights [22:16] bnchs__ uhh maybe it's best you don't speak english? [22:16] you got named after the great hero of the soviets Alexei Sorokin [22:17] bnchs__ maybe is better yo never speak again [22:17] bnchs__ oh uhhh ok [22:18] XRevan86 bnchs__: I'll keep you company. [22:18] psydroid2 ? [22:18] psydroid2 * [22:19] XRevan86 "" works colloquially. But the "" thing I don't understand. [22:19] *zleap has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [22:19] MinceR :) [22:20] XRevan86 psydroid2: Were ye trying to say " ?" [22:20] [22:20] psydroid2 XRevan86, trying to infer things from Dutch/English doesn't work so well, does it? :) [22:21] psydroid2 I'm just a few lessons in, so I am trying to use what I know [22:22] XRevan86 "but what here there problem", I am failing to back-track it to English either. [22:22] psydroid2 and yes, I should have used [22:22] problemo [22:22] psydroid2 "but what is the problem here?" [22:23] XRevan86 " ?" [22:23] psydroid2 s it feminine in Ukrainian? [22:23] XRevan86 psydroid2: Of course. [22:24] psydroid2 well, in any other language including Greek it's neuter or masculine [22:24] *psydroid2 has learned a few things today [22:25] XRevan86 psydroid2: It's loaned from Latin "problema", and the ending suggests the noun class. [22:25] psydroid2 even Latin problema is neuter, but I get that it didn't get borrowed with that gender into Ukrainian [22:26] XRevan86 psydroid2: Yea, the gender is purely ending-based. [22:26] chunky broken startup scripts + you use mac + u run irssi as root + ur low on vitamins + u have a favorite commercial + hope u die + u use walmart wifi [22:30] *ziraffep has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:31] problema is masculine [22:32] XRevan86 : In what language? [22:32] *techrights_guest|84 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [22:32] italian roman [22:33] XRevan86 Can't argue with that. [22:35] XRevan86 psydroid2: Knowing that it is "problem" in Polish made things make more sense to me, but then ye should have used "" of course. [22:36] of course. [22:37] psydroid2 XRevan86, I just did a few lessons and don't have a background in relatively closely related Slavic languages, I'm sure my languages will be better in a month or two [22:37] psydroid2 I forgot about [22:38] XRevan86 I get that both "" and "" translate as "what" to English. [22:39] XRevan86 "what is this?" " ?"; "what a guy!" " !" [22:39] psydroid2 literally you are saying "which is the problem here?" in Ukrainian [22:39] psydroid2 yes [22:39] psydroid2 that's the context I was missing [22:39] psydroid2 you also do that in Romance languages [22:40] psydroid2 "cal es el problema?" [22:40] XRevan86 "which" is "" :) [22:40] psydroid2 "what kind of?" [22:40] which=what [22:41] psydroid2 I'm not sure there is a one-to-one correspondence with any of my native languages [22:42] what is more abstract [22:42] psydroid2 maybe somewhat in Hindi [22:42] psydroid2 "kaunsa problem hai?" = "what is the problem?" [22:43] which predetermines an assortment of choises [22:43] psydroid2 "kya hota hai?" = "what is happening?" [22:43] psydroid2 yes, it makes sense now [22:43] kingoffrance "hey hai" = ??? [22:43] isnt that japanese? [22:43] psydroid2 lol [22:44] psydroid2 maybe [22:45] hai is yes in japanese [22:45] psydroid2 hey isn't a word in Hindi, as far as I know [22:45] psydroid2 "hai" means "is" [22:48] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@y56qsb6r6yg94.irc) has joined #techrights [22:49] not mutch of words interjections [22:50] *Noisytoot_ (~noisytoot@freenode/user/Noisytoot) has joined #techrights [22:50] bnchs__ did i shut up long enough [22:50] exclamations [22:50] obviously no [22:51] *Noisytoot_ (~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot) has joined #techrights [22:52] bnchs__ ok [22:52] isnt so much a word but an exclamation [22:52] kingoffrance no, as your punishment you must write 200 pages single spaced defining "state" and "rights" and "person" and "human" and "property" and "family" and how abolishing the "state" will magically lead to a coherent system instead of just meaningless gibberish and more confusion of tongues [22:52] bnchs__ kingoffrance, wtf are you gonna do if i don't write them [22:53] kingoffrance MinceR will be sad [22:53] bnchs__ it's either my sanity or mincer [22:53] MinceR hai is shark in german [22:53] no way [22:54] MinceR i don't think anyone said that abolshing the state by itself will lead to a coherent system [22:54] MinceR it will merely do away with a certain class of injustices [22:54] kingoffrance the problem is noone agrees on any of those words [22:54] kingoffrance its 5 volume controls conway's law [22:54] MinceR too bad for you, i guess [22:55] kingoffrance yes, 1984 just makes up words [22:55] kingoffrance why is that bad for me? [22:55] kingoffrance it just means you have no coherent thought [22:56] kingoffrance trapped in hegelian nonsense [22:56] MinceR shark in german translayes to yikes [22:56] MinceR i've said nothing about hegel and you're frothing in rage about someone daring to say bad things about your beloved state [22:56] kingoffrance i have no state, you are doing some kind of weird "anyone not me must be destroyed" [22:57] kingoffrance you are projectig [22:57] kingoffrance *projecting [22:57] MinceR you're either trolling or you don't understand english [22:57] *gooseheaded has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:57] kingoffrance so now everyone agrees on words? way to twist yourself into a pretzel [22:57] MinceR do they? [22:58] kingoffrance you turned into CrystalMath/lee [22:58] MinceR uh huh [22:58] kingoffrance "you don't understand english" you implied there is one system everyone agrees on with that [22:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 45.43 k/sec., IPFS upstream 114.30 average k/sec., average swarm size 333.23 [22:59] abolish monarchic [22:59] kingoffrance the fact you didnt mentino hegel does not mean you do not do such nonsense [22:59] kingoffrance you have some lack of understanding that things are not magically whatever you call them ● Apr 11 [23:00] kingoffrance or in your case, that being silent means you cannot be pushing something, because you didnt' call it that [23:00] is there a problem? [23:00] kingoffrance lol [23:01] kingoffrance nah, i just thought "non commies" had something to offer besides word games [23:01] MinceR apparently the problem is that kingoffrance was fatally triggered by me saying that the state should be abolished [23:01] psydroid2 [23:01] MinceR also, apparently the alternative to "word games" is word salad [23:01] kingoffrance you havent defined " [23:01] kingoffrance t"the state" [23:01] kingoffrance point me to a definitino [23:01] *psydroid2 is hungry [23:01] kingoffrance its just your emotions run amok [23:01] MinceR and there's the projection [23:02] kingoffrance point me to a definitino outside your head [23:02] kingoffrance go [23:02] MinceR if you were arguing in good faith, i would [23:02] MinceR but you aren't [23:02] MinceR so instead i'll look for something more productive to do [23:02] abolish the stat and let elon muxk tule the world thru titter [23:02] kingoffrance see? its just 1984 anyone not on your "side" is not in good "faith" -- a religion [23:02] immibis MinceR: we already abolished state. the state evolved from absence of state [23:02] kingoffrance ^^^ [23:03] kingoffrance thank you [23:03] bnchs__ psydroid2, then eat [23:03] MinceR immibis: it's time for us to learn from the consequences of that [23:03] MinceR kingoffrance: again, learn english [23:03] immibis MinceR: learning from history by deliberately repeating it? [23:03] psydroid2 bnchs__, I am going to do just that, I'm going to have to choose between some sandwiches and word salad [23:03] kingoffrance americans only have to know american law. people are the state. the end [23:04] kingoffrance so you want to abolish all people apparently [23:04] MinceR immibis: learning from history by undoing the disaster we caused and making sure it doesn't happen again [23:04] *AdmFubar has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:04] CrystalMath MinceR: what does it mean if there are no states? [23:04] kingoffrance ^^^ [23:04] CrystalMath what i would agree with, is individual freedom [23:04] CrystalMath but not some kind of globalist hell [23:05] immibis MinceR: last time there was no state there was a state soon after [23:05] kingoffrance ^^^ [23:05] immibis MinceR: also who's gonna defend you from poo-tin [23:05] kingoffrance well you guys cheer me up gotta get some work done thank you not everyone is so idiotic [23:05] bnchs__ psydroid2, word salad? [23:05] kingoffrance "socialists" thought long about these issues, they are not new [23:06] psydroid2 bnchs__, that was a reference to what was said above, I'm definitely going for sandwiches [23:06] psydroid2 word salad = gibberish [23:06] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has joined #techrights [23:07] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:08] do you think elon muxk is afraid to be censored from twitter? [23:08] or maybe is actually trying to [23:08] bnchs__ elon musk is a soulless guy [23:09] why? [23:09] bexause he somked weed? [23:09] bnchs__ no [23:09] bnchs__ because he only cares about profits [23:09] *Noisytoot_ has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [23:09] bnchs__ and PR stunts [23:09] *Noisytoot_ has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [23:09] he cares about the environment [23:10] kingoffrance my apologies CrystalMath i only said lee because he also did corporate person as "state". i will not lump you into that +CrystalMath lol [23:11] he wants to be boring but the world doesnt let him [23:11] bnchs__ hahaha [23:11] bnchs__ he "cares" about the environment [23:12] id he a trump supporter? [23:13] i think he just like that he breaks the mold [23:13] CrystalMath Elon Musk wants to bring free speech to twitter [23:13] bnchs__ : lets just say [23:13] CrystalMath commendable, but i fear that's like trying to bring matter to antimatte [23:13] CrystalMath *antimatter [23:13] bnchs__ his company, tesla is known for covering up everything bad about it [23:13] bnchs__ INCLUDING environment violations [23:13] bnchs__ environmental violations* [23:13] CrystalMath it may explode [23:14] *Noisytoot_ (~noisytoot@freenode/user/Noisytoot) has joined #techrights [23:14] bnchs__ twitter can't be free speech [23:14] you cant make omelets with out breaking a few egs [23:14] bnchs__ the website is designed for censorship [23:14] CrystalMath bnchs__: well we'll see what happens [23:14] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@y56qsb6r6yg94.irc) has joined #techrights [23:14] bnchs__ ok [23:14] CrystalMath i'm curious if Elon Musk could do it [23:14] CrystalMath if he can't, nobody can [23:14] *Noisytoot_ (~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot) has joined #techrights [23:14] bnchs__ but i don't trust elon musk [23:14] bnchs__ the CEO of a company that covers up and lies [23:14] bnchs__ multiple times [23:16] elon musk is a modern 007 [23:16] *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #techrights [23:16] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Quit: I expect to be back tomorrow) [23:16] *psymin (~psymin@user/psymin) has joined #techrights [23:16] bnchs__ his company is as "eco-friendly" as other companies [23:16] but he makes green cats [23:17] ars [23:18] bnchs__ "In June 2018, Tesla employee Martin Tripp leaked information that Tesla was scrapping or reworking up to 40% of its raw materials at the Nevada Gigafactory.[453] After Tesla fired him for the leak, Tripp filed a lawsuit and claimed Tesla's security team gave police a false tip that he was planning a mass shooting at the Nevada factory. The court ruled in Tesla's favor on September 17, 2020" [23:18] XRevan86 Things are really bad when serious media don't want to touch a topic without a triple-check. [23:19] bnchs__ if what this guy is saying is tru [23:19] bnchs__ then i can see that tesla goes as far as to swat their employees [23:19] bnchs__ for whistleblowing [23:21] * has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [23:25] * (~6d466421@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [23:26] cant talk about muxk or you bobarded by unsolveble capchs [23:27] try reading your email after trying to find 1000 trafic lights [23:27] chunky yr mom is attracted to u + ur phone has multiple mcdonalds wifi saved + fat as fuck + you can't eat solid foods + you lose money on shitcoins + you blame black folk for ruining your life [23:29] has this irc been hijacked [23:29] psydroid2 things look saner when you can't see what chunky the free-shitposter writes [23:30] bnchs__ chunky, i'm not fat [23:30] psydroid2 no, he just writes bullshit all day long [23:30] bnchs__ i'm big buneddd!! [23:30] must elons fan boy [23:30] bnchs__ but who the fuck uses mcdonalds wifi [23:31] everyone [23:31] bnchs__ i think there was an idea i had years ago [23:31] bnchs__ like hiding a raspberry pi in a mcdonalds [23:31] bnchs__ connected to their wifi [23:31] bnchs__ acting like a server [23:31] i use every free wifi i can get into [23:32] you mean repeater? [23:32] bnchs__ no [23:32] bnchs__ a public server [23:32] bnchs__ basically you steal their bandwidth [23:32] bnchs__ for hosting crap [23:33] kingoffrance should be noted: any real contracts require at least 1) consideration both sides give something 2) "good faith" 3) terms are defined it is quite the projection to leave out 1) and 3) and then accuse someone of neglecting 2). leaving out 1) and 3) is not "good faith" [23:33] for a moment i tought you said public servant [23:33] bnchs__ have you ever seen someone get emotional over a computer [23:33] kingoffrance so 1984 "good faith" nowadays lol [23:33] bnchs__ i did [23:33] kingoffrance it means 180 of actual definition lol [23:33] bnchs__ when it didn't wanna boot [23:34] how do you steal freewaifi [23:34] bnchs__ i cried that day, because the display was blank even though it was on [23:34] bnchs__ capcitior died [23:34] thats a concept i cant grasp [23:34] bnchs__ : you steal the bandwidth [23:34] bnchs__ of the free wifi [23:35] you mean like IPFS [23:35] kingoffrance 4) is perhaps a subset of one, someone has the power to give what they claim to give . this is why people claim "god" gave them "rights" etc. [23:35] kingoffrance minor point [23:35] bnchs__ i got too attached to my computer [23:36] some people like tamagoshys [23:36] but nothing beats smart phones [23:38] because its better then lord given rights? [23:38] god is a consensual king [23:39] but actually what really gives people rights is money [23:39] money is god like [23:47] bnchs__ smartphones ruined the internet [23:47] bnchs__ after smartphones came out, the internet became shit [23:47] bnchs__ because everyone just knows centralized social control media [23:47] bnchs__ instead of bookmarks of peoples' websites [23:49] MinceR well, if musk manages to destroy twatter, i'd say that's a desirable outcome [23:49] MinceR 12 000516 < immibis> MinceR: also who's gonna defend you from poo-tin [23:49] MinceR free people [23:49] bnchs__ fuck smartphones [23:49] bnchs__ if smartphones didn't exist [23:49] bnchs__ the internet wouldn't be the way it was [23:50] kingoffrance *persons MinceR redefines persons as plural of people. which is common post-enlightenment, but FYI [23:55] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)