●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, May 11, 2022 ●● ● May 11 [00:00] schestowitz-TR it would shock me if anywhere there was dumb enough to use the darn thing [00:00] DaemonFC 2662 59th Ave SW [00:00] DaemonFC Seattle, WA 98116 [00:01] schestowitz-TR gay blackmail app: approved by Sir Fry [00:01] schestowitz-TR also approved by Fry: GNU [00:01] bnchs schestowitz-TR, they used the gays near you feature [00:01] bnchs sort of like a fucking radar [00:01] bnchs for gay people [00:01] MinceR gaydar [00:01] MinceR or the way islamists use it: slaydar [00:02] bnchs beep beep beep 113 gay people detected near 1 km [00:02] schestowitz-TR "Come get ma falafels" [00:02] *goosestepping_ has quit (Quit: Ping timeout: Over 9000!!!) [00:03] DaemonFC It's a duplex. [00:03] DaemonFC I don't see the KIA or the Ford. [00:04] schestowitz-TR shoebox accomodation [00:04] schestowitz-TR welcome to singapore! [00:04] schestowitz-TR you can exit the shoebox to visit a nearby shopping mall [00:04] schestowitz-TR BTW, their shopping malls are all very expensive [00:04] schestowitz-TR you'd struggle to find anything worth buying, even on salke [00:05] schestowitz-TR it's always cheaper in the UK [00:05] *goosestepping_ (~goosestepping@xz3kyk98vsxk6.irc) has joined #techrights [00:05] TR News Free Software or Openwashing Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164702 [00:05] TR Bot Free Software or Openwashing Leftovers | Tux Machines [00:05] DaemonFC There was a GEO Metro parked a couple blocks from his old apartment in Tacoma. [00:06] schestowitz-TR if he lost his job in the airport, he burns his money on rent now [00:06] schestowitz-TR unless it's important to live close to Unvle Bill [00:06] DaemonFC He's too old for Uncle Bill. [00:07] DaemonFC Uncle Bill thinks it's important to catch them young, so they can be properly educated. [00:07] schestowitz-TR "bad bad ..." [00:07] schestowitz-TR "Well, he's dead" [00:07] schestowitz-TR "OK, let's talk about COVID now... I'm the expert" [00:08] schestowitz-TR "I bribed the Lancet, does it make me a researcher?" [00:08] schestowitz-TR (Bill never finished university) [00:09] bnchs schestowitz-TR, you know what they say [00:09] bnchs in order to become an expert [00:09] bnchs you must give some money [00:09] TR News "...and I realized I had *essentially* abandonned this gemlog. Well, neglected it, anyways. My phlog really is my first love. It is mirrored on gemini as well." gemini://1436.ninja/gemlog/20210725.gmi [00:09] DaemonFC I'm looking at his mom's house in Texas. [00:10] DaemonFC She lives in one of those ticky tacky housing subdivisions. [00:10] DaemonFC Her husband is a really weird guy. [00:10] TR News "My capsule is not dead; I've just been very busy! 2021 is finally over, and truth be told it was kind of a drag. I am just a few weeks away from graduation, so of course most of my life energy is focused on school right now plus a bunch of other issues." gemini://kwiecien.us/gemlog/202201010203.gmi [00:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights [00:10] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.81 k/sec., IPFS upstream 23.01 average k/sec., average swarm size 558.38 [00:10] DaemonFC Still uses a reverse projection television. The bulb was burning out and he said he ordered another one and it cost him $70. [00:11] schestowitz-TR [00:10] Her husband is a really weird guy.\ [00:11] DaemonFC The bulbs cost about 1/6th of a new big screen LED that'll take up 20% of the electric and the reverse projection bulbs just burn out again in a few years so you have to replace them over and over. [00:11] schestowitz-TR like father like son [00:11] DaemonFC It's not John's dad. [00:12] DaemonFC Robert seemed nice enough. Only met him once. John's dad is Juan. [00:12] DaemonFC He's on his third family now. [00:12] DaemonFC Dude's like 60 and he's married to a woman my age and has more kids with her. [00:12] schestowitz-TR SonJuan [00:12] DaemonFC Neither he or his wife have any sense of money either. [00:13] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:13] DaemonFC They took out a vehicle equity loan on their 2011 Prius so they'll never get it paid off, then they used the money to prop up their overspending. [00:13] DaemonFC I'd be surprised if they haven't been sued already. [00:13] schestowitz-TR he should meet marisol for the 4th family then (Re: Neither he or his wife have any sense of money either.) [00:14] DaemonFC MARISOL wouldn't be interested in him. [00:14] DaemonFC He's already loaded up with debt and on his last leg health-wise. [00:14] schestowitz-TR she is also deep in debt [00:14] DaemonFC His kids with the third wife won't have a dad by the time they're 25. [00:14] schestowitz-TR and mark's parents are bust [00:14] DaemonFC Yeah, but I know how she thinks. [00:15] schestowitz-TR those shoes are worthless [00:15] DaemonFC If she ever ditches Mark, it'll be so she can load up her next husband with credit card debt. [00:15] schestowitz-TR and she votes Ferdinand Jr. [00:15] schestowitz-TR bringing back Immelda [00:15] schestowitz-TR anyway, the whole US is a mess like this [00:15] schestowitz-TR many companies are like that, mostly debt [00:15] schestowitz-TR little assets [00:16] schestowitz-TR (inc. the company where I work) [00:16] schestowitz-TR debt is the new currency they say [00:16] schestowitz-TR they measure how much minus [00:16] schestowitz-TR dick-measuring content where less is more [00:16] schestowitz-TR and where more debt is "prospects" [00:16] schestowitz-TR "we managed to get more loans than you! ha ha!" [00:16] schestowitz-TR as if that's a positive [00:16] DaemonFC CNN says American households took on another $62 billion in debt last month. [00:16] DaemonFC Hey hell, why not. [00:17] DaemonFC It's one big turkey shoot headed for the bankruptcy courts anyway. [00:17] schestowitz-TR that's aside from national debt [00:17] DaemonFC Yeah. [00:17] schestowitz-TR US is about 34 trillion in debt [00:17] schestowitz-TR local gov. is about 3-4 [00:17] schestowitz-TR USA Inc. is insolvent [00:17] schestowitz-TR Twitter was sold to outsiders [00:17] DaemonFC My credit is pretty much ruined. But it's better than it was before I filed bankruptcy. [00:17] schestowitz-TR KSA, South African slavery family etc. [00:17] *bnchs (~bnchs@ey45dysgasftq.irc) has joined #techrights [00:17] DaemonFC It was 490 and then it went back up to 550, and now it's at 650. [00:18] schestowitz-TR You might say, [00:18] activelow http://techrights.org/2020/10/30/openssf-microsoft/ [00:18] TR Bot With Microsoft in Charge, OpenSSF Seems More Like Its About Back Doors Not Real Security Inside the Linux Foundation | Techrights [00:18] schestowitz-TR one day USA will be sold [00:18] schestowitz-TR but that's a dumb thing to do [00:18] schestowitz-TR or to say [00:18] schestowitz-TR because it is already sold [00:18] DaemonFC You do need good credit even if you aren't interested in loans and mortgages. [00:18] schestowitz-TR follow the money of the debtors [00:18] DaemonFC The insurance companies use it to rate you. [00:18] DaemonFC If you have no credit score, they use it as an excuse to rip you off on car insurance for about another $800 a year. [00:19] schestowitz-TR whatever [00:19] DaemonFC There's only like 4 states where they can't fuck you like that. [00:19] schestowitz-TR I don't want a car anymore [00:19] DaemonFC Everywhere else it's a free for all, so they do it. [00:19] schestowitz-TR and I throw all the lending spam right in the bin [00:19] schestowitz-TR I still gets lots of that spam [00:19] schestowitz-TR claiming 0% interest [00:19] DaemonFC Yeah, for a while anyway. On a credit card? [00:19] DaemonFC 15-18 months. [00:19] DaemonFC It's how they reel you in. [00:19] schestowitz-TR some people borrow money to buy homes overvalued before the bubble implodes [00:20] DaemonFC At first it doesn't cost you that much to go into debt and make minimum payments. [00:20] activelow puff piece is a rather polite expression to describe openssf ... [00:20] DaemonFC 18 months sounds like forever. [00:20] schestowitz-TR and then they sit on an "asset" worth barely half what they paid [00:20] DaemonFC So you max out the card and 18 months happens and then you're in trouble. [00:21] schestowitz-TR one reason I want to change jobs is the loan shark we're made to "help" [00:21] schestowitz-TR they run a network of wordpress sites that they use to rope in victims [00:21] schestowitz-TR i refuse to work on that [00:21] schestowitz-TR those sites should all be OFFLINE [00:22] DaemonFC Yeah, well, I have bills and Mandy's like "Don't we already have like 7 credit cards?". [00:22] DaemonFC And I said, "Yeah.". [00:22] DaemonFC He goes, "Well what the fuck are you doing with 7 credit cards?". [00:22] schestowitz-TR better to have more bank accounts [00:22] DaemonFC I said, "Well, none of them carry a balance.". [00:22] schestowitz-TR not plastics that have your name with a minus attached to them [00:22] DaemonFC "They each have their highest rewards schemes on a different category." [00:23] DaemonFC "About five percent of our income comes from credit card points. Life's expensive." [00:23] schestowitz-TR be careful what you sign [00:23] schestowitz-TR it's subject to change [00:23] schestowitz-TR what you sign might have a section consenting to future changes [00:23] schestowitz-TR and then before you know it they rip you off [00:24] schestowitz-TR like a bank once did when closing my account while stealing my balance [00:24] schestowitz-TR because they had lied to me about no annual charges [00:24] DaemonFC Well, the federal Credit CARD Act says they have to notify you 45 days in advance of changes. [00:24] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:24] schestowitz-TR and then quietly added those in [00:24] schestowitz-TR better to record what banksters tell you [00:24] DaemonFC And you can cancel the card, and they can't make those changes retroactive on things you've already put on the card. [00:24] schestowitz-TR so you can prove they broke a promise or lied [00:25] DaemonFC I get emails saying "Our Card Agreement has changed. Here's what's changing." sometimes and I read them. [00:25] DaemonFC Most people don't. [00:25] TR News "In the Drake equation, Im a bit of an ET-naysayer, I had really underestimated R. The Milky Way is a lil bit bigger than I thought." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/drake-equation [00:25] DaemonFC They have to summarize what's changing and then go into the particulars. [00:25] DaemonFC I got one from the bank one day that says they were doing away with overdraft fees. [00:26] TR News "I bristled at this teaching in grade school (in lgstadiet) because it felt like we were being taught an oversimplification, a falsehood, a myth." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/five-senses [00:27] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: they rely on people too busty with a hard life [00:27] *bnchs (~bnchs@zy42yuyzkqxyi.irc) has joined #techrights [00:27] schestowitz-TR and not reading the changes [00:27] schestowitz-TR and then getting exploited or not botering [00:27] schestowitz-TR not pursuing correction [00:27] schestowitz-TR anyway, banksters are called that for a reason [00:27] schestowitz-TR they're like gangsters [00:27] schestowitz-TR like patent lawyers [00:27] schestowitz-TR they don't think of themselves that way [00:29] DaemonFC No, people like to think they're important and serving a purpose. [00:29] DaemonFC Banks don't create anything, they're just moneychangers. [00:30] TR News Canonical does not promote GNU/Linux https://ubuntu.com//blog/linux-on-mac-with-multipass-1-9 [00:30] TR Bot on Mac takes the next step with Multipass 1.9 | Ubuntu [00:30] schestowitz-TR yup [00:30] schestowitz-TR banks are just that [00:31] schestowitz-TR central banksters are worse [00:32] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:33] TR News SUSE, Docker, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164703 [00:33] TR Bot SUSE, Docker, and More | Tux Machines [00:34] activelow doubt openssf intersects with any real project... not sure [00:34] activelow i remember, gentoo founder went to microsoft.. and gentoo does exactly what openssf announces it would do [00:35] activelow ideally i can remove all gentoo dependencies, that's why tinycc is important too, because toolchain maintenance of GCC etc. is too complicated [00:37] activelow few days ago, gentoo.org security notifications labeled _all_ web browsers red with highest severity [00:38] activelow one example, and they jumped into bed with each other, microsoft edge, chromium [00:38] activelow mozilla heading towards apple/rust/clang... all of it wiped here [00:38] XRevan86 "tinycc is important" <- It didn't take long for activelow to forget that compilers like https://sr.ht/~mcf/cproc/ exist. [00:38] TR Bot cproc: Small C11 compiler based on QBE [00:40] activelow XRevan86: if you're willing to help i would be curious if any other compiler can compile linux kernel, such as QBE, tinycc [00:41] XRevan86 QBE is not a compiler, it's a compiler back-end akin to LLVM but simpler. [00:42] XRevan86 (and written in C, surprise-surprise) [00:42] activelow i don't care how you name this, if it can't compile linux kernel [00:42] TR News links-10052022-red-hat-enterprise-linux-9 | Gemini address: links-10052022-red-hat-enterprise-linux-9 [00:42] TR News links-10052022-red-hat-enterprise-linux-9 | Gemini address: links-10052022-red-hat-enterprise-linux-9 | Gemini address: links-10052022-red-hat-enterprise-linux-9 | Gemini address: links-10052022-red-hat-enterprise-linux-9 [00:43] XRevan86 activelow: Your argument is really strange, since the competition is a half-dead C99 compiler. [00:43] TR News Links 10/05/2022: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 9 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/10/rhel-9/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/10/rhel-9/ [00:43] TR Bot Links 10/05/2022: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 9 | Techrights [00:43] XRevan86 activelow: Ye consider TinyCC to be better suited at compiling Linux? [00:44] activelow XRevan86: any later than gcc 4.7 are dead [00:44] TR News Canonical/Ubuntu Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164704 [00:44] TR Bot Canonical/Ubuntu Leftovers | Tux Machines [00:44] TR News Videos: Chinas GNU/Linux Embrace and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164705 [00:44] TR Bot Videos: China's GNU/Linux Embrace and More | Tux Machines [00:44] TR News Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164706 [00:44] TR Bot Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [00:45] activelow and i say tinycc _was_ the last project i knew which succeeded partially with kernel-4.6... yet with my minor patch against kernel-5.10 tinycc could eat most of it [00:45] activelow difference between tinycc and qbe/cproc, tinycc demonstrated it did the joib [00:45] activelow job [00:45] XRevan86 This logic is as solid as a Swiss watch. [00:46] TR News ZDNet: we've covered IBM's paid-for FLUFF because IBM PAYS us to do this while ignoring China's GNU/Linux-friendly policy. The editorial choices are the PRODUCT. Boycott ZDNet. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/ZDNet [00:46] TR Bot ZDNet - Techrights [00:48] XRevan86 activelow: That feature-dead compiler is sure the best chance at compiling contemporary Linux. [00:48] XRevan86 Because many years in its prime it could build something from the Linux source tree. [00:48] XRevan86 * many years ago [00:48] activelow it could compile entire linux v2.6, JIT, yes [00:49] XRevan86 That actively developed compiler that states C11 and some GCC extensions' compliance has nothing on TinyCC. [00:50] activelow linux v4.6 bricked, only partial success, kernel v5.10 required some nasty patching already for gcc-4.7 (no time yet for tinycc)... and kernel v5.15 locked into some more feature creap again and gcc-5.x... [00:50] XRevan86 I really doubt that it can build Linux, but maybe it will fail later in the build process than TinyCC. [00:50] activelow XRevan86: situation currently is simply this, i am not aware of any C(!) compiler which demonstarted it fully compiled linux kernel v5.10 [00:52] XRevan86 activelow: That attempt at "sic!" is not really successful, because GCC and Clang are C compilers amongst other things, and they demonstrated that they can. [00:53] *goosestepping_ has quit (Quit: Ping timeout: Over 9000!!!) [00:53] activelow >gcc-4.7 and llvm/clang are C++ compilers, end of discussion; these are written in c++, and have the usual characterstics of this type of software which is typically written with c++ [00:54] DaemonFC "However, this mistake could be attributable to the writers following the [Ferengi] 239th rule of acquisition. 'Never be afraid to mislabel a product.'" [00:54] DaemonFC LOL [00:54] activelow XRevan86: i already patched kernel 5.10, what have you got to claim you progressed further with QBE? [00:55] activelow too i downgraded to gcc-4.7 already, wiped all c++ dependencies... what have you got in preparation for any C(!) compiler to feed with? [00:55] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I tend to do things in such a way that it doesn't go too much against the flow, when possible. [00:55] activelow anyway... triggered another devdrop build, which just launched, meaning good night [00:56] DaemonFC I finally broke my mom of one bad habit (for the environment and the bank account). Changing your oil every few months. [00:56] XRevan86 activelow: "gcc-4.7 and llvm/clang are C++ compilers, end of discussion; these are written in c++" <- So the language in which the compiler is written is what language the compiler is for? [00:56] DaemonFC I managed to make my case that as long as you're checking it every couple of weeks to make sure you're not losing any, you can usually do it about every year with the mileage she's driving. [00:56] activelow ">gcc-4.7 and llvm/clang are C++ compilers, these are written in c++" [00:57] DaemonFC I've never had a car with engine problems. [00:57] DaemonFC But I use good stuff and I keep an eye on it. [00:57] activelow XRevan86: yes, the choice of implementation language of the compile define it's qualities [00:57] DaemonFC We're having all these damned oil supply problems and the price is going up like crazy. [00:57] *goosestepping_ (~goosestepping@xz3kyk98vsxk6.irc) has joined #techrights [00:57] activelow how can you question this? try to bootstrap tcc with all support cross compilers... 5 minutes... done... [00:58] DaemonFC So changing it out too often is going to cost you a lot of money these days. [00:58] activelow do the same with GCC... with the exact same resources available, requires hours and days of time [00:58] *ADT (~b9dc6546@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [00:58] activelow not to mention the _instability_ of c++ language feature set and it's standard library [00:59] TR News This is a GNOME thing, not a Ubuntu thing, and it's most likely the work of (mostly) Red Hat https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/05/disable-animations-in-ubuntu-22-04 [00:59] TR Bot How to Disable UI Animations in Ubuntu 22.04 LTS - OMG! Ubuntu! [00:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.38 k/sec., IPFS upstream 36.51 average k/sec., average swarm size 560.61 [00:59] ADT .net is the new c++ ● May 11 [01:00] schestowitz-TR ok.. [01:00] DaemonFC https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/used-car-prices-continue-to-drop-but-at-a-slower-pace [01:00] TR Bot Used car prices continue to drop, but at a slower pace [01:00] DaemonFC Prices paid by DEALERS is going down. [01:01] ADT .net is mono on linux? [01:01] DaemonFC In other words, they're padding their profit margin. People are desperate to raise money. They sell their car for less because it's one asset they can dispose of quickly. [01:01] DaemonFC Dealer raises prices even though they're getting them cheaper. [01:01] ADT were are you copy pasting this from? [01:02] XRevan86 ADT: Mono is kind of its own thing. .NET Core also supports GNU/Linux. [01:02] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, You're right that car ownership is pretty terrible. [01:02] TR News On automating a gemini capsule with gssg gemini://sergio-101.mywire.org/posts/using-gssg-to-build-site.gmi [01:02] DaemonFC You can avoid "stepping in it" on a brand that's just no good, like anything German. [01:02] XRevan86 ADT: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/core/tools/telemetry It also has this. [01:02] TR Bot .NET SDK and .NET CLI telemetry - .NET CLI | Microsoft Docs [01:03] DaemonFC XRevan86, Did you see where Lada says they're going to deal with sanctions by shipping the cars with no air conditioner? [01:03] activelow anyway... triggered another devdrop build, which just launched, meaning good night [01:03] ADT german cats are some of the best [01:03] DaemonFC I don't know how much of a concession that is in Russia overall. [01:03] TR News Some thoughts on Gemini gemini://sergio-101.mywire.org/posts/gemini-thoughts.gmi "For some reason, I am having a really good time setting this thing up. I feel like I am back in the old days of the interneta time when we never could tell who was looking at our site" [01:03] XRevan86 DaemonFC: I heard about Euro-0. And about that they don't know how to produce anything at all. [01:04] ADT is DT guy on this irc ? [01:04] ADT DaemonFC are you the hey DT guy? [01:04] DaemonFC No? [01:05] ADT are you sure? [01:05] DaemonFC The air conditioner on the Impala konked out finally. It works, but only when you're going up or down a hill. [01:05] DaemonFC And then it stops again. [01:05] ADT you do know who im talking about? [01:05] DaemonFC I'm going to have to recharge it. [01:05] DaemonFC Or just start driving up and down a lot of hills, I suppose. [01:06] XRevan86 DaemonFC: "I don't know how much of a concession that is in Russia overall." <- Not sure what ye mean. I think it's a huge question what kind of product they're even going to muster up eventually. [01:06] XRevan86 Lack of air conditioning might be not on the top of the list of peculiarities. [01:08] ADT impala linux dluxe [01:09] *goosestepping_ has quit (Quit: Ping timeout: Over 9000!!!) [01:10] ADT do you know the DT guy the linux youtuber? [01:10] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techrights [01:10] XRevan86 ADT: DistroTube? [01:11] ADT yes [01:11] *XRevan86 is aware of his existence. [01:11] ADT Hey, DT! [01:12] XRevan86 ADT: Why do ye think he's here? [01:12] ADT atention deficit disorder dude [01:12] ADT cause you link him alot [01:12] *goosestepping_ (~goosestepping@xz3kyk98vsxk6.irc) has joined #techrights [01:13] TR News KDE-Neon is such an awkward distro. Each OS update is like (almost) installing everything all over again, and it only configures itself during the reboot. It's not for your average production system. Also: memory leaks. [01:13] DaemonFC Maybe talk to Vlad about that. [01:14] DaemonFC Russia seems to be really good at producing tanks to drive up and then get burned alive in when a Javelin hits them. [01:14] DaemonFC If they spent less on that, they could have better cars. [01:14] ADT techrights-news looks alot like windows [01:15] ADT you could install linux faster then windows update [01:15] DaemonFC One of the few things Americans seem to agree on is that 86% think burning those Russian bastards alive in their tanks is worth every penny. [01:15] DaemonFC So Putin united us on at least that. [01:16] XRevan86 DaemonFC: I'm legally obligated to condemn the use of the word "bastards" here. [01:16] TR News COVID-19 'solved' in UK by virtue of not publishing data about it http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/05/10/hiding-covid/ [01:16] TR Bot Blog Archive COVID-19 in the UK: Going Dark, Hiding the Problem Instead of Solving It [01:16] ADT legally? [01:17] TR News Python Database Programming with MongoDB | Developer.com https://www.developer.com/languages/python-mongodb/ Source: developer [01:17] TR Bot Database Programming with MongoDB | Developer.com [01:17] ADT you see i was right elon musk really both tweeter to unban donald trump [01:17] XRevan86 ADT: Well, not really. But I legally can't agree with that, so that's close. [01:18] ADT https://www.cbsnews.com/news/elon-musk-donald-trump-twitter/ [01:18] TR Bot Elon Musk says he would allow Donald Trump back on Twitter - CBS News [01:19] TR News Danielle For Has an Update for elementary OS 7 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164707 [01:19] TR Bot Danielle For Has an Update for elementary OS 7 | Tux Machines [01:19] XRevan86 DaemonFC: Putin is really good at uniting like that. [01:19] XRevan86 Just look at Sweden and Finland. [01:19] ADT in any sane nation donald trump would be trialed for treason [01:20] ADT donald trump is going to end war with putin and launch a special operation on mexico [01:21] ADT they really did a sloppy job the 1st time [01:21] ADT usa need to be united with panama [01:22] schestowitz-TR A Russian candidate plans to run for USA Inc. 2024 [01:22] schestowitz-TR so Twitter account needed [01:22] schestowitz-TR MusKSA coordinated the purchase with Trump, based on report [01:22] schestowitz-TR or with that CEO of Truth Sovisl [01:23] schestowitz-TR Devin Nunes was it? [01:23] schestowitz-TR Truth Social failed badly [01:23] schestowitz-TR taking over Twitter using Saudi oil money is a contigency [01:26] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: I have question [01:27] schestowitz-TR it relates to something discussed in #boycottnovell yesterday (hours ago) [01:27] schestowitz-TR how does not best respond to claims that Putin's approval rating soared? [01:28] XRevan86 schestowitz: That ratings is a mechanism relevant only to democracies. [01:28] schestowitz-TR because of the legitimacy\? [01:30] *isak has quit (connection closed) [01:31] *schestowitz_log__ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:31] *schestowitz_log_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:32] *Now talking on #techrights [01:32] *Topic for #techrights is: Techrights.org IRC discussions @ localhost | Channel #techrights for http://techrights.org [logged online] :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell for related discussions. For scrollback see http://techrights.org/irc-channel/ [01:32] *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~roy@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc at Fri Jun 18 16:51:47 2021 [01:32] *schestowitz_log_ (~schestowitz_log@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights [01:32] XRevan86 schestowitz: There are several factors at play: 1. plain fear, because of which people who disagree are much less likely to even respond; 2. lack of consequences, since people don't have a part in decision making they are less likely to bother to have a well-formed opinion; 3. state propaganda which brain-washes at unprecedented levels; 4. natural human comformism which makes people less likely to sid [01:32] XRevan86 e with the Enemies of the Nation. [01:32] XRevan86 schestowitz: There are several factors at play: 1. plain fear, because of which people who disagree are much less likely to even respond; 2. lack of consequences, since people don't have a part in decision making they are less likely to bother to have a well-formed opinion; 3. state propaganda which brain-washes at unprecedented levels; 4. natural human comformism which makes people less likely to sid [01:32] XRevan86 e with the Enemies of the Nation. [01:32] *schestowitz_log has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [01:32] schestowitz-TR thanks, makes sense [01:32] schestowitz-TR thanks, makes sense [01:33] *schestowitz_log_ has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [01:37] XRevan86 schestowitz: With regular ratings dictators always get absurdly high approval. [01:37] XRevan86 schestowitz: With regular ratings dictators always get absurdly high approval. [01:38] XRevan86 Maybe that means that democracies don't work as well if dictators have several times higher approvals of their dictator governments :). (it doesn't) [01:38] XRevan86 Maybe that means that democracies don't work as well if dictators have several times higher approvals of their dictator governments :). (it doesn't) [01:42] XRevan86 1.1. and fear can push people towards conformism on a mental level. [01:42] XRevan86 1.1. and fear can push people towards conformism on a mental level. [01:43] schestowitz-TR does beatka mean anything in Russia? [01:43] schestowitz-TR does beatka mean anything in Russia? [01:43] schestowitz-TR betka [01:43] schestowitz-TR betka [01:43] schestowitz-TR >batka [01:43] schestowitz-TR >batka [01:44] *ADT has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:44] *ADT has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:44] schestowitz-TR in Belarus the dictator's regime uses the term [01:44] schestowitz-TR in Belarus the dictator's regime uses the term [01:44] DaemonFC ADT, I don't know if the war on Mexico idea was serious, but Trump ordered Defense Secretary Mark Esper to look into firing cruise missiles into Mexico. [01:44] DaemonFC ADT, I don't know if the war on Mexico idea was serious, but Trump ordered Defense Secretary Mark Esper to look into firing cruise missiles into Mexico. [01:44] DaemonFC That didn't come out until last week. So if you were joking, you actually hit on something that did come up during the administration. [01:44] DaemonFC That didn't come out until last week. So if you were joking, you actually hit on something that did come up during the administration. [01:45] schestowitz-TR he also wanted to fire live ammo at protesters [01:45] schestowitz-TR he also wanted to fire live ammo at protesters [01:45] schestowitz-TR Musk: let him in, let's bring back the shitshow [01:45] schestowitz-TR Musk: let him in, let's bring back the shitshow [01:45] DaemonFC Trump wanted to hit the "drug cartels" with the missiles, he said. [01:45] DaemonFC Trump wanted to hit the "drug cartels" with the missiles, he said. [01:45] DaemonFC Mexico is in danger from the United States because they don't have nuclear missiles. [01:45] DaemonFC Mexico is in danger from the United States because they don't have nuclear missiles. [01:45] schestowitz-TR the boy who was brutally beaten at school wants to help bullies now [01:45] schestowitz-TR the boy who was brutally beaten at school wants to help bullies now [01:45] DaemonFC If you have nuclear missiles, you're only in danger of harassment via proxy war. [01:45] DaemonFC If you have nuclear missiles, you're only in danger of harassment via proxy war. [01:46] DaemonFC Then the US government wants to know why everyone suddenly wants nukes. [01:46] DaemonFC Then the US government wants to know why everyone suddenly wants nukes. [01:46] TR News We Turn 18 Next Month Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164708 [01:46] TR News We Turn 18 Next Month Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164708 [01:46] TR Bot We Turn 18 Next Month | Tux Machines [01:46] TR Bot We Turn 18 Next Month | Tux Machines [01:47] XRevan86 schestowitz: The word is used for Lukashenko, it means father but with an informal connotation which I can't translate. [01:47] XRevan86 schestowitz: The word is used for Lukashenko, it means father but with an informal connotation which I can't translate. [01:47] DaemonFC I think the reason the proxy war harassment of Russia is so popular is because we're not in any real danger ourselves and it is doing significant degradation to Russia's military. [01:47] DaemonFC I think the reason the proxy war harassment of Russia is so popular is because we're not in any real danger ourselves and it is doing significant degradation to Russia's military. [01:47] *ADT (~b9a3cc2c@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [01:47] *ADT (~b9a3cc2c@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [01:47] *ADT66 (~b9a3cc2c@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [01:47] *ADT66 (~b9a3cc2c@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [01:47] ADT66 democracies have to get it right all the time dictators only need to get it right once [01:47] ADT66 democracies have to get it right all the time dictators only need to get it right once [01:47] DaemonFC All we have to do is prop up some backwater nation state with enough of our weapons to give Putler a really bad day and then grab the popcorn. [01:47] DaemonFC All we have to do is prop up some backwater nation state with enough of our weapons to give Putler a really bad day and then grab the popcorn. [01:48] schestowitz-TR give them weapons only if they inevstigate Biden [01:48] schestowitz-TR give them weapons only if they inevstigate Biden [01:48] schestowitz-TR and then get Trumpcorn [01:48] schestowitz-TR and then get Trumpcorn [01:48] XRevan86 schestowitz: Also regarding propaganda, I should point out that it has never been this effective, so I attribute its success to that people really-really want the brainwash, to escape reality. [01:48] XRevan86 schestowitz: Also regarding propaganda, I should point out that it has never been this effective, so I attribute its success to that people really-really want the brainwash, to escape reality. [01:49] XRevan86 ADT66: That's true. [01:49] XRevan86 ADT66: That's true. [01:50] *goosestepping_ has quit (Quit: Ping timeout: Over 9000!!!) [01:50] *goosestepping_ has quit (Quit: Ping timeout: Over 9000!!!) [01:50] DaemonFC We're decades ahead of anything Ukraine had, which was Russian to begin with...so like, big whoop. [01:50] DaemonFC We're decades ahead of anything Ukraine had, which was Russian to begin with...so like, big whoop. [01:50] DaemonFC Half of it probably didn't work right to begin with. [01:50] DaemonFC Half of it probably didn't work right to begin with. [01:52] XRevan86 DaemonFC: That's slander of 40 year old machinery. [01:52] XRevan86 DaemonFC: That's slander of 40 year old machinery. [01:54] *goosestepping_ (~goosestepping@b3sfnrfrgm6ju.irc) has joined #techrights [01:54] *goosestepping_ (~goosestepping@b3sfnrfrgm6ju.irc) has joined #techrights [01:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.20 k/sec., IPFS upstream 38.63 average k/sec., average swarm size 531.36 [01:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.20 k/sec., IPFS upstream 38.63 average k/sec., average swarm size 531.36 [01:59] DaemonFC I care? [01:59] DaemonFC I care? ● May 11 [02:01] DaemonFC You'll notice that the Chinese middle class is driving Buicks if they can get them. [02:01] DaemonFC You'll notice that the Chinese middle class is driving Buicks if they can get them. [02:01] DaemonFC Not a big market for Ladas. [02:01] DaemonFC Not a big market for Ladas. [02:01] chicksahoy At least you aren't riding a bike anymore [02:01] chicksahoy At least you aren't riding a bike anymore [02:01] *schestowitz_log__ (~schestowitz_log@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights [02:01] *schestowitz_log__ (~schestowitz_log@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights [02:02] *schestowitz_log (~schestowi@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #techrights [02:02] XRevan86 DaemonFC: Ukraine-manufactured Neptune missiles got the job done on a certain warship. [02:02] XRevan86 DaemonFC: Ukraine-manufactured Neptune missiles got the job done on a certain warship. [02:02] *Guest91 (~schestowi@2a00:23c4:c383:c901:ba4:4b49:dfb4:4f2) has joined #techrights [02:02] DaemonFC Just an Impala with no air conditioning that likes to go into a seizure for a few seconds in the winter when I hit a snow bank. [02:02] DaemonFC Just an Impala with no air conditioning that likes to go into a seizure for a few seconds in the winter when I hit a snow bank. [02:02] DaemonFC For a few more days until I get my Buick back. [02:02] DaemonFC For a few more days until I get my Buick back. [02:02] XRevan86 Many they were from the good half. [02:02] XRevan86 Many they were from the good half. [02:02] XRevan86 * Maybe [02:02] XRevan86 * Maybe [02:02] DaemonFC Many they were from the good half. [02:02] DaemonFC Many they were from the good half. [02:03] DaemonFC They seemed to be good enough to hit the munitions store and set off secondary explosions. [02:03] DaemonFC They seemed to be good enough to hit the munitions store and set off secondary explosions. [02:03] DaemonFC I mean maybe by chance, but it's where you would aim. [02:03] DaemonFC I mean maybe by chance, but it's where you would aim. [02:03] XRevan86 Accuracy is half the job. [02:03] XRevan86 Accuracy is half the job. [02:07] DaemonFC The other half is a proprietary blend of luck and swagger. [02:07] DaemonFC The other half is a proprietary blend of luck and swagger. [02:08] XRevan86 schestowitz: It's not hard to imagine, because the worldview alternative to the propaganda provides no hope. I try to go with the truth, and I have no hope. [02:08] XRevan86 schestowitz: It's not hard to imagine, because the worldview alternative to the propaganda provides no hope. I try to go with the truth, and I have no hope. [02:08] DaemonFC I really hope we're giving Ukraine some more anti-ship missiles. [02:08] DaemonFC I really hope we're giving Ukraine some more anti-ship missiles. [02:09] DaemonFC They can just keep sinking the Russian ships and saying they had more "Neptune" missiles. [02:09] DaemonFC They can just keep sinking the Russian ships and saying they had more "Neptune" missiles. [02:09] *goosestepping_ has quit (Quit: Ping timeout: Over 9000!!!) [02:09] *goosestepping_ has quit (Quit: Ping timeout: Over 9000!!!) [02:09] DaemonFC XRevan86, Did you see the Ukrainian "Captured Russian Tank Parade"? [02:09] DaemonFC XRevan86, Did you see the Ukrainian "Captured Russian Tank Parade"? [02:10] DaemonFC I think theirs was bigger. [02:10] DaemonFC I think theirs was bigger. [02:10] XRevan86 DaemonFC: I saw it, yes. [02:10] XRevan86 DaemonFC: I saw it, yes. [02:10] DaemonFC Posted on Twitter under "Shit we stole from Pootie Poot". [02:10] DaemonFC Posted on Twitter under "Shit we stole from Pootie Poot". [02:10] DaemonFC (No, not really, but close.) [02:10] DaemonFC (No, not really, but close.) [02:11] XRevan86 I haven't really looked at the Moscow parade up close, only what the dictator uttered out of his mouth. And that there was no aviation. [02:11] XRevan86 I haven't really looked at the Moscow parade up close, only what the dictator uttered out of his mouth. And that there was no aviation. [02:11] DaemonFC It must be humiliating that you're losing almost as many tanks to the crews being smart enough to get out and run as you are to being blown up [02:11] DaemonFC It must be humiliating that you're losing almost as many tanks to the crews being smart enough to get out and run as you are to being blown up [02:12] XRevan86 There was going to be a flight in the form of a letter Z, but they cancelled it all. [02:12] XRevan86 There was going to be a flight in the form of a letter Z, but they cancelled it all. [02:12] DaemonFC Too many aircraft lost to Stingers....I mean, no particular reason. [02:12] DaemonFC Too many aircraft lost to Stingers....I mean, no particular reason. [02:12] DaemonFC Scheduling conflicts. [02:12] DaemonFC Scheduling conflicts. [02:12] XRevan86 in the formation that is [02:12] XRevan86 in the formation that is [02:13] schestowitz-TR drawing swastikas in the sky is a high risk of collision [02:13] schestowitz-TR drawing swastikas in the sky is a high risk of collision [02:13] XRevan86 DaemonFC: That's probably not it. [02:13] XRevan86 DaemonFC: That's probably not it. [02:14] XRevan86 Russia still has a shit tonne of aircraft, and they were there for the repetitions. [02:14] XRevan86 Russia still has a shit tonne of aircraft, and they were there for the repetitions. [02:15] XRevan86 One fun hypothesis is that everything was cancelled for the small chance that a plane could decide to go on a collision course with Putin. [02:15] XRevan86 One fun hypothesis is that everything was cancelled for the small chance that a plane could decide to go on a collision course with Putin. [02:15] TR News The master IBM runs "election", with candidates prefiltered by the master https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/f36-elections-nominations-now-open/ [02:15] TR News The master IBM runs "election", with candidates prefiltered by the master https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/f36-elections-nominations-now-open/ [02:15] TR Bot F36 elections nominations now open Fedora Community Blog [02:15] TR Bot F36 elections nominations now open Fedora Community Blog [02:16] TR News https://mintcast.org/2022/05/11/381-mozilla-does-something-meta/ [02:16] TR News https://mintcast.org/2022/05/11/381-mozilla-does-something-meta/ [02:16] TR Bot 381 Mozilla Does Something Meta mintCast [02:16] TR Bot 381 Mozilla Does Something Meta mintCast [02:16] TR News 381 - Mozilla Does Something Meta - mintCast https://mintcast.org/2022/05/11/381-mozilla-does-something-meta/ [02:16] TR News 381 - Mozilla Does Something Meta - mintCast https://mintcast.org/2022/05/11/381-mozilla-does-something-meta/ [02:17] XRevan86 Putin is pretty paranoid when it comes to his life (amongst other things), which is evident even simply by his bunker way of life. [02:17] XRevan86 Putin is pretty paranoid when it comes to his life (amongst other things), which is evident even simply by his bunker way of life. [02:17] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Big layoffs at Carvana. [02:17] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Big layoffs at Carvana. [02:17] DaemonFC "Online automotive retailer Carvana Co. says its letting go about 2,500 workers, roughly 12% of its workforce, as it tries to bring staffing and expenses in line with sales." [02:17] DaemonFC "Online automotive retailer Carvana Co. says its letting go about 2,500 workers, roughly 12% of its workforce, as it tries to bring staffing and expenses in line with sales." [02:17] XRevan86 And potentially aviation was seen as a non-zero threat. [02:17] XRevan86 And potentially aviation was seen as a non-zero threat. [02:18] schestowitz-TR plane dives? [02:18] schestowitz-TR plane dives? [02:18] schestowitz-TR they can disarm the planes [02:18] schestowitz-TR they can disarm the planes [02:19] XRevan86 schestowitz: yes, plane dives. [02:19] XRevan86 schestowitz: yes, plane dives. [02:20] XRevan86 The official reason was bad weather of all things. [02:20] XRevan86 The official reason was bad weather of all things. [02:20] XRevan86 It's rare to see a day as sunny as was May 9th in St. Petersburg and Moscow. [02:20] XRevan86 It's rare to see a day as sunny as was May 9th in St. Petersburg and Moscow. [02:22] XRevan86 Another hypothesis is that there were fears of the planes being taken down by Ukrainian forces. [02:22] XRevan86 Another hypothesis is that there were fears of the planes being taken down by Ukrainian forces. [02:22] XRevan86 I don't really see how, but I'm not a military expert. [02:22] XRevan86 I don't really see how, but I'm not a military expert. 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[03:28] *ADT66 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [03:28] *ADT66 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [03:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 21.66 k/sec., IPFS upstream 29.31 average k/sec., average swarm size 386.70 [03:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 21.66 k/sec., IPFS upstream 29.31 average k/sec., average swarm size 386.70 [03:59] DaemonFC Another hypothesis is that there were fears of the planes being taken down by Ukrainian forces. [03:59] DaemonFC Another hypothesis is that there were fears of the planes being taken down by Ukrainian forces. [03:59] DaemonFC It's hard to sneak across the border with Stingers isn't it? [03:59] DaemonFC It's hard to sneak across the border with Stingers isn't it? [03:59] DaemonFC As far as I know, Ukraine has only gone into Russia once and that was to blow up a fuel depot that was close to the border. [03:59] DaemonFC As far as I know, Ukraine has only gone into Russia once and that was to blow up a fuel depot that was close to the border. ● May 11 [04:07] MinceR was that confirmed to be done by ukrainian forces? [04:07] MinceR was that confirmed to be done by ukrainian forces? [04:08] MinceR 11 031305 < schestowitz-TR> drawing swastikas in the sky is a high risk of collision [04:08] MinceR 11 031305 < schestowitz-TR> drawing swastikas in the sky is a high risk of collision [04:08] MinceR yet another advantage to the zwastika! [04:08] MinceR yet another advantage to the zwastika! [04:08] MinceR 11 015943 < ADT> .net is the new c++ [04:08] MinceR 11 015943 < ADT> .net is the new c++ [04:08] MinceR no, it's a crappy java clone [04:08] MinceR no, it's a crappy java clone [04:12] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving) [04:12] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving) [04:32] *isak (~isak@dzzss3vg4xwbw.irc) has joined #techrights [04:32] *isak (~isak@dzzss3vg4xwbw.irc) has joined #techrights [04:56] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:56] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● May 11 [05:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights [05:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights [05:10] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 22.78 k/sec., IPFS upstream 30.35 average k/sec., average swarm size 446.18 [05:10] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 22.78 k/sec., IPFS upstream 30.35 average k/sec., average swarm size 446.18 [05:23] DaemonFC was that confirmed to be done by ukrainian forces? [05:23] DaemonFC was that confirmed to be done by ukrainian forces? [05:24] DaemonFC Unless Russia blew up their own fuel depot for whatever reason, I suppose. [05:24] DaemonFC Unless Russia blew up their own fuel depot for whatever reason, I suppose. [05:24] DaemonFC Don't know why they would. [05:24] DaemonFC Don't know why they would. [05:24] DaemonFC Maybe XRevan86 could speculate. [05:24] DaemonFC Maybe XRevan86 could speculate. [05:25] DaemonFC MinceR, Maybe Jussie Smollett gave the Russians advice on how to conduct the war. [05:25] DaemonFC MinceR, Maybe Jussie Smollett gave the Russians advice on how to conduct the war. [05:26] DaemonFC First you kick your own ass, then you get caught, then it's the end of your career, then you go to jail, then you get out of jail when you whine that they only sent you to jail for being black. [05:26] DaemonFC First you kick your own ass, then you get caught, then it's the end of your career, then you go to jail, then you get out of jail when you whine that they only sent you to jail for being black. [05:26] DaemonFC Profit. [05:26] DaemonFC Profit. [05:28] DaemonFC MinceR, So, the Buick dealer wants $60,000 for a Buick today. [05:28] DaemonFC MinceR, So, the Buick dealer wants $60,000 for a Buick today. [05:28] DaemonFC And there's no Buick on their lot that costs less than $53,250. [05:28] DaemonFC And there's no Buick on their lot that costs less than $53,250. [05:28] DaemonFC That's the base model. [05:28] DaemonFC That's the base model. [05:29] DaemonFC If you want to lease one of the $60,000 Buicks, you get a three year lease. You have to pay them $6,000 down and another $24,000 in installments over 36 months. Then if you turn it in with more than 10,000 miles on the odometer, you owe an additional 25 cents per mile when you go to turn it in. [05:29] DaemonFC If you want to lease one of the $60,000 Buicks, you get a three year lease. You have to pay them $6,000 down and another $24,000 in installments over 36 months. Then if you turn it in with more than 10,000 miles on the odometer, you owe an additional 25 cents per mile when you go to turn it in. [05:30] DaemonFC So it's half the cost of buying one, you never own it, they take it back in three years, and you're barely allowed to drive it. [05:30] DaemonFC So it's half the cost of buying one, you never own it, they take it back in three years, and you're barely allowed to drive it. [05:30] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, That seems like one of the worst deals out there to me. [05:30] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, That seems like one of the worst deals out there to me. [05:31] DaemonFC The average annual mileage a vehicle is driven is 9,250 in the United States, per year. [05:31] DaemonFC The average annual mileage a vehicle is driven is 9,250 in the United States, per year. [05:32] DaemonFC So if you just drive the average amount, you will owe them $4,437.50 in mileage when you go to turn it in. [05:32] DaemonFC So if you just drive the average amount, you will owe them $4,437.50 in mileage when you go to turn it in. [05:32] DaemonFC So at that point, you paid $34,437.50+tax to lease a $60,000 Buick for three years and then turn it back in. [05:32] DaemonFC So at that point, you paid $34,437.50+tax to lease a $60,000 Buick for three years and then turn it back in. [05:32] DaemonFC And if it's been scratched, scraped, dented, door dinged, etc. they want money for that too. [05:32] DaemonFC And if it's been scratched, scraped, dented, door dinged, etc. they want money for that too. [05:34] DaemonFC I remember mom telling me they were at a drive in movie with my dad and my aunt and uncle back in the 70s and some guy kept getting out and whacking my dad's Plymouth with their car door. So he got out (wearing steel toed boots) and kicked the side of their car and left a huge dent in it. [05:34] DaemonFC I remember mom telling me they were at a drive in movie with my dad and my aunt and uncle back in the 70s and some guy kept getting out and whacking my dad's Plymouth with their car door. So he got out (wearing steel toed boots) and kicked the side of their car and left a huge dent in it. [05:36] DaemonFC "Violent crime happens in Afghanistan during all times of day, so do not think that daylight makes you safe. You can expect muggings, burglaries, and carjacking since this country is shaken by war and in extremely bad condition. The risk increases after dark, so avoid going anywhere after nightfall." [05:36] DaemonFC "Violent crime happens in Afghanistan during all times of day, so do not think that daylight makes you safe. You can expect muggings, burglaries, and carjacking since this country is shaken by war and in extremely bad condition. The risk increases after dark, so avoid going anywhere after nightfall." [05:36] DaemonFC Just replace "Afghanistan" with "Chicago" and you get a good description of Chicago. [05:36] DaemonFC Just replace "Afghanistan" with "Chicago" and you get a good description of Chicago. [05:40] DaemonFC Nobody worries about damaging your car. [05:40] DaemonFC Nobody worries about damaging your car. [05:40] DaemonFC You're lucky if they don't just point a gun at you and say "That's my car now. Get out!". [05:40] DaemonFC You're lucky if they don't just point a gun at you and say "That's my car now. Get out!". [05:41] DaemonFC It's amazing how light Chicago gets off on the website about travel risk I'm reading. [05:41] DaemonFC It's amazing how light Chicago gets off on the website about travel risk I'm reading. [05:41] DaemonFC Carjackings in Chicago have gotten so bad that they even carjacked the state senate majority leader. [05:41] DaemonFC Carjackings in Chicago have gotten so bad that they even carjacked the state senate majority leader. [05:42] DaemonFC I'm sure that the police are working her case real hard after her defund the police bill. [05:42] DaemonFC I'm sure that the police are working her case real hard after her defund the police bill. [05:42] DaemonFC MinceR, Someone at the Catholic church was talking about Hell. [05:42] DaemonFC MinceR, Someone at the Catholic church was talking about Hell. [05:43] DaemonFC I said, "Actually, there is no Hell, but I hear Chicago's getting close.". [05:43] DaemonFC I said, "Actually, there is no Hell, but I hear Chicago's getting close.". [05:44] DaemonFC Christians are like Star Trek nerds. [05:44] DaemonFC Christians are like Star Trek nerds. [05:44] DaemonFC Huddling together, comparing the source material. [05:44] DaemonFC Huddling together, comparing the source material. [05:44] DaemonFC Arguing whether they liked Kirk or Picard. [05:44] DaemonFC Arguing whether they liked Kirk or Picard. [05:49] DaemonFC https://www.travelsafe-abroad.com/united-states/ [05:49] DaemonFC https://www.travelsafe-abroad.com/united-states/ [05:49] TR Bot How Safe Is United States for Travel? (2022 Updated) Travel Safe - Abroad [05:49] TR Bot How Safe Is United States for Travel? (2022 Updated) Travel Safe - Abroad [05:49] DaemonFC "This country is infamous for gun usage and the selling of guns, but the truth is that most violent crimes that do occur in the US, occur in suburbs or urban areas of some cities. [05:49] DaemonFC It is by no means as widespread throughout the entire country as the media would have us believe." [05:49] DaemonFC "This country is infamous for gun usage and the selling of guns, but the truth is that most violent crimes that do occur in the US, occur in suburbs or urban areas of some cities. [05:49] DaemonFC It is by no means as widespread throughout the entire country as the media would have us believe." [05:50] DaemonFC Yeah, because most of it is gang warfare in major cities which are unlivable cesspits anyway. [05:50] DaemonFC Yeah, because most of it is gang warfare in major cities which are unlivable cesspits anyway. [05:50] DaemonFC Even if you ignore the crime, the cost of living easily doubles (or more) so you wouldn't want to go there anyway if you were smart. [05:50] DaemonFC Even if you ignore the crime, the cost of living easily doubles (or more) so you wouldn't want to go there anyway if you were smart. [05:50] DaemonFC They don't mention that gun crime committed by people who were legally allowed to buy and sell guns is very uncommon. [05:50] DaemonFC They don't mention that gun crime committed by people who were legally allowed to buy and sell guns is very uncommon. [05:51] DaemonFC The areas of the country with the highest rates of legal gun ownership are also some of the safest area of the country to travel to. [05:51] DaemonFC The areas of the country with the highest rates of legal gun ownership are also some of the safest area of the country to travel to. [05:51] DaemonFC Usually, you'd be okay there even if you walk around at night or leave your car door unlocked. [05:51] DaemonFC Usually, you'd be okay there even if you walk around at night or leave your car door unlocked. [05:52] DaemonFC The criminal activity that tends to happen the most in rural areas where legal gun ownership is high tend to be someone smoking marijuana. [05:52] DaemonFC The criminal activity that tends to happen the most in rural areas where legal gun ownership is high tend to be someone smoking marijuana. [05:53] DaemonFC While I lived in a town in Indiana of about 37,000 where almost everyone had a gun in the house, there were 2 murders in 14 years. [05:53] DaemonFC While I lived in a town in Indiana of about 37,000 where almost everyone had a gun in the house, there were 2 murders in 14 years. [05:54] DaemonFC There was also a bank robbery, but amusingly enough he had a fake gun during the robbery. [05:54] DaemonFC There was also a bank robbery, but amusingly enough he had a fake gun during the robbery. [05:55] DaemonFC Of the two murders in the 14 years, neither of them happened involving a gun. One was a DEA agent who was burned to death and another was a guy who followed his cheating wife into a convenience store and stabbed her. [05:55] DaemonFC Of the two murders in the 14 years, neither of them happened involving a gun. One was a DEA agent who was burned to death and another was a guy who followed his cheating wife into a convenience store and stabbed her. [05:55] DaemonFC Quite frequently, I would walk around the entire town at night for something to do (exercise) with four or five thousand dollars cash in my pocket. [05:55] DaemonFC Quite frequently, I would walk around the entire town at night for something to do (exercise) with four or five thousand dollars cash in my pocket. [05:56] DaemonFC Nothing ever happened. Quite often I wouldn't even see one other person out, or sometimes just the sporadic traffic on US 30, which ran through the town. [05:56] DaemonFC Nothing ever happened. Quite often I wouldn't even see one other person out, or sometimes just the sporadic traffic on US 30, which ran through the town. [05:57] DaemonFC Meanwhile, in Chicago, three teenagers mugged me at gunpoint on month two and stole my phone. [05:57] DaemonFC Meanwhile, in Chicago, three teenagers mugged me at gunpoint on month two and stole my phone. [05:57] DaemonFC I didn't have any cash on me because I knew I was in a large city where a mugging was possible. [05:57] DaemonFC I didn't have any cash on me because I knew I was in a large city where a mugging was possible. [05:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 22.61 k/sec., IPFS upstream 25.58 average k/sec., average swarm size 426.13 [05:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 22.61 k/sec., IPFS upstream 25.58 average k/sec., average swarm size 426.13 [05:59] DaemonFC "Mass shootings" are just the new way of putting "the same gang violence that has always plagued shitholes like Chicago". [05:59] DaemonFC "Mass shootings" are just the new way of putting "the same gang violence that has always plagued shitholes like Chicago". [05:59] DaemonFC If you're literally anywhere else in Illinois, it's not very likely. [05:59] DaemonFC If you're literally anywhere else in Illinois, it's not very likely. ● May 11 [06:00] DaemonFC Liberals have to blame guns for the fact that criminal gangs are roaming the streets and it wouldn't be politically correct to jail them. Even though the state does pretty much fuck all about crime, Chicago is one of the most heavily surveiled cities in America, and even the world. [06:00] DaemonFC Liberals have to blame guns for the fact that criminal gangs are roaming the streets and it wouldn't be politically correct to jail them. Even though the state does pretty much fuck all about crime, Chicago is one of the most heavily surveiled cities in America, and even the world. [06:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 19.53 k/sec., IPFS upstream 21.80 average k/sec., average swarm size 347.30 [06:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 19.53 k/sec., IPFS upstream 21.80 average k/sec., average swarm size 347.30 ● May 11 [07:02] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [07:02] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [07:10] *koo5_ has quit (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.) [07:11] *koo5_ (~quassel@51.140.155.227) has joined #techrights [07:49] TR News #Techrights Bulletin for Tuesday, May 10, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [07:49] TR News #Techrights Bulletin for Tuesday, May 10, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [07:49] TR Bot Bulletin Archives [07:49] TR Bot Bulletin Archives [07:49] TR News #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [07:49] TR News #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [07:49] TR Bot Techrights Full IPFS Index [07:49] TR Bot Techrights Full IPFS Index [07:51] *matey (~matey@q4zgtqjtq9zka.irc) has joined #techrights [07:51] *matey (~matey@q4zgtqjtq9zka.irc) has joined #techrights [07:52] matey hooray for ibm, enterprisers, enterprisers, enterprisers, enterprisers! [07:52] matey hooray for ibm, enterprisers, enterprisers, enterprisers, enterprisers! [07:52] matey i read a cool article about enterprisers, and its red hats mcdonaldsland magic language that means "cio" [07:52] matey i read a cool article about enterprisers, and its red hats mcdonaldsland magic language that means "cio" [07:53] matey so theyre not cios anymore, theyre ENTERPRISERS now [07:53] matey so theyre not cios anymore, theyre ENTERPRISERS now [07:53] matey and i guess if youre an enterpriser, you do enterprising [07:53] matey and i guess if youre an enterpriser, you do enterprising [07:53] matey you know who else is an enterpriser? this guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Luc_Picard [07:53] matey you know who else is an enterpriser? this guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Luc_Picard [07:53] TR Bot Jean-Luc Picard - Wikipedia [07:53] TR Bot Jean-Luc Picard - Wikipedia [07:54] matey but hes not a cio, hes just a regular enterpriser [07:54] matey but hes not a cio, hes just a regular enterpriser [07:54] matey i wonder what ibm calls trekkies [07:54] matey i wonder what ibm calls trekkies [07:55] matey ibm should have a cool word for users too [07:55] matey ibm should have a cool word for users too [07:55] matey users do useops [07:55] matey users do useops [07:55] SomeH4x0r hi [07:55] SomeH4x0r hi [07:55] matey hi [07:55] matey hi [07:55] matey maybe theyre useoppers [07:55] matey maybe theyre useoppers [07:56] matey i dont know how ibms version of english works [07:56] matey i dont know how ibms version of english works [07:56] TR News [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D228.jpg [07:56] TR News [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D228.jpg [07:56] matey ibm is really laying it on thick [07:56] matey ibm is really laying it on thick [07:57] TR News [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D585.jpg [07:57] TR News [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D585.jpg [07:57] matey theres a devops INSTITUTE [07:57] matey theres a devops INSTITUTE [07:57] matey mit is obsolete [07:57] matey mit is obsolete [07:58] TR News "I followed this blog as a teenager, and it made me fall in love with console applications. I discovered Linux around the age of 14 if I remember correctly, after I spent most of my childhood with DOS games from '93 or so" gemini://gemini.dimakrasner.com/i-miss-kmandla.gmi [07:58] TR News "I followed this blog as a teenager, and it made me fall in love with console applications. I discovered Linux around the age of 14 if I remember correctly, after I spent most of my childhood with DOS games from '93 or so" gemini://gemini.dimakrasner.com/i-miss-kmandla.gmi [07:58] matey theres no doctorate of devops at mit, just some old nonsense no one cares about anymore [07:58] matey theres no doctorate of devops at mit, just some old nonsense no one cares about anymore [07:58] TR News "I am tired so much because of allergy meds and just having hard time to sleep because general anxiety. What really annoys me about it is that I have drive to work on my own programming projects but no energy." gemini://akselmo.dev/posts/2022-05-10-Constantly-tired.gmi [07:58] TR News "I am tired so much because of allergy meds and just having hard time to sleep because general anxiety. 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Now you can use them to interact with your Linux PC a little easier." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/manage-your-linux-pc-remotely-as-kde-connect-lands-on-iphone-and-ipad/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [08:07] TR News "Do you have an iPad or an iPhone laying around or as one of your main devices? Now you can use them to interact with your Linux PC a little easier." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/manage-your-linux-pc-remotely-as-kde-connect-lands-on-iphone-and-ipad/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [08:07] TR Bot your Linux PC remotely as KDE Connect lands on iPhone and iPad | GamingOnLinux [08:07] TR Bot your Linux PC remotely as KDE Connect lands on iPhone and iPad | GamingOnLinux [08:10] TR News "Need some fresh games for your desktop or Steam Deck?" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/save-loads-on-tons-of-games-in-the-humble-store-spring-sale/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [08:10] TR News "Need some fresh games for your desktop or Steam Deck?" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/save-loads-on-tons-of-games-in-the-humble-store-spring-sale/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [08:10] TR Bot loads on tons of games in the Humble Store Spring Sale | GamingOnLinux [08:10] TR Bot loads on tons of games in the Humble Store Spring Sale | GamingOnLinux [08:10] TR News Urban Games and Good Shepherd Entertainment https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/transport-fever-2-patch-adds-more-control-new-options-and-extends-modding/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [08:10] TR News Urban Games and Good Shepherd Entertainment https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/transport-fever-2-patch-adds-more-control-new-options-and-extends-modding/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [08:10] TR Bot Fever 2 patch adds more control, new options and extends modding | GamingOnLinux [08:10] TR Bot Fever 2 patch adds more control, new options and extends modding | GamingOnLinux [08:10] TR News "Perhaps an answer to "Deck Neck" where your neck starts to hurt staring down at the Steam Deck?" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/viture-one-xr-glasses-look-fun-paired-up-with-a-steam-deck/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [08:10] TR News "Perhaps an answer to "Deck Neck" where your neck starts to hurt staring down at the Steam Deck?" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/viture-one-xr-glasses-look-fun-paired-up-with-a-steam-deck/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [08:10] TR Bot One XR glasses look fun paired up with a Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux [08:10] TR Bot One XR glasses look fun paired up with a Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux [08:10] TR News "Not exactly a big surprise given the price but the Steam Deck has managed to stay at number 1 of the Steam Weekly Global Top Sellers list." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/sorted-by-revenue-the-steam-deck-has-been-the-number-1-top-seller-for-4-weeks/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [08:10] TR News "Not exactly a big surprise given the price but the Steam Deck has managed to stay at number 1 of the Steam Weekly Global Top Sellers list." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/sorted-by-revenue-the-steam-deck-has-been-the-number-1-top-seller-for-4-weeks/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [08:10] TR Bot by revenue, the Steam Deck has been the number 1 top seller for 4 weeks | GamingOnLinux [08:10] TR Bot by revenue, the Steam Deck has been the number 1 top seller for 4 weeks | GamingOnLinux [08:11] TR News "Today I gave a keynote address at Red Hat Summit; the following is an excerpt from that talk" https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/new-normal-it-starts-open-source | Source: Red Hat Official [08:11] TR News "Today I gave a keynote address at Red Hat Summit; the following is an excerpt from that talk" https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/new-normal-it-starts-open-source | Source: Red Hat Official [08:11] TR Bot The new normal for IT starts with open source [08:11] TR Bot The new normal for IT starts with open source [08:12] TR News Red Hat chasing cars (they rarely run Red Hat) https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/new-standard-red-hat-vehicle-operating-system-modern-and-future-vehicles | Source: Red Hat Official [08:12] TR News Red Hat chasing cars (they rarely run Red Hat) https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/new-standard-red-hat-vehicle-operating-system-modern-and-future-vehicles | Source: Red Hat Official [08:12] TR Bot The new standard: Red Hat In-Vehicle Operating System in modern and future vehicles [08:12] TR Bot The new standard: Red Hat In-Vehicle Operating System in modern and future vehicles [08:12] TR News "Are your edge computing systems secure?" Red Hat upselling "security" (not a fair business model) https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/managing-red-hat-enterprise-linux-edge | Source: Red Hat Official [08:12] TR News "Are your edge computing systems secure?" Red Hat upselling "security" (not a fair business model) https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/managing-red-hat-enterprise-linux-edge | Source: Red Hat Official [08:12] TR Bot Managing Red Hat Enterprise Linux at the edge [08:12] TR Bot Managing Red Hat Enterprise Linux at the edge [08:12] TR News "It supports a vast choice of hardware architectures from x86 to Arm to Power and Z" https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/fueling-spark-innovation | Source: Red Hat Official [08:12] TR News "It supports a vast choice of hardware architectures from x86 to Arm to Power and Z" https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/fueling-spark-innovation | Source: Red Hat Official [08:13] TR Bot Fueling the spark of innovation [08:13] TR Bot Fueling the spark of innovation [08:15] TR News "The Canaan Kendryte K510 SoC is composed of two RISC-V64 processors (up to 800MHz) and a RISC-V DSP" https://linuxgizmos.com/canaan-risc-v-based-development-board-targets-ai-applications/ | Source: Linux Gizmos [08:15] TR News "The Canaan Kendryte K510 SoC is composed of two RISC-V64 processors (up to 800MHz) and a RISC-V DSP" https://linuxgizmos.com/canaan-risc-v-based-development-board-targets-ai-applications/ | Source: Linux Gizmos [08:15] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/canaan-risc-v-based-development-board-targets-ai-applications/ ) [08:15] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/canaan-risc-v-based-development-board-targets-ai-applications/ ) [08:15] TR News eurobsdcon https://2022.eurobsdcon.org/the-call-for-talk-and-presentation-proposals-for-eurobsdcon-2022-is-now-open/ [08:15] TR News eurobsdcon https://2022.eurobsdcon.org/the-call-for-talk-and-presentation-proposals-for-eurobsdcon-2022-is-now-open/ [08:15] TR Bot Call for Proposals EuroBSDCon [08:15] TR Bot Call for Proposals EuroBSDCon [08:16] TR News iophk: police /are/ also civilians https://globalnews.ca/news/8821796/alabama-escaped-inmate-officer-caught/ [08:16] TR Bot Alabama prison officer dies after police capture escaped inmate in Indiana - National | Globalnews.ca [08:16] TR News iophk: police /are/ also civilians https://globalnews.ca/news/8821796/alabama-escaped-inmate-officer-caught/ [08:16] TR Bot Alabama prison officer dies after police capture escaped inmate in Indiana - National | Globalnews.ca [08:16] TR News thunderbird [08:16] TR News thunderbird [08:16] TR News thunderbird [08:16] TR News thunderbird [08:20] TR News Work with Us Thunderbird https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/careers/ Source: thunderbird [08:20] TR Bot Work with Us Thunderbird [08:20] TR News Work with Us Thunderbird https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/careers/ Source: thunderbird [08:20] TR Bot Work with Us Thunderbird [08:20] TR News Social control media harmful https://www.wsj.com/articles/tiktok-brain-explained-why-some-kids-seem-hooked-on-social-video-feeds-11648866192 WSL paywall [08:20] TR News Social control media harmful https://www.wsj.com/articles/tiktok-brain-explained-why-some-kids-seem-hooked-on-social-video-feeds-11648866192 WSL paywall [08:20] TR Bot Brain Explained: Why Some Kids Seem Hooked on Social Video Feeds - WSJ [08:20] TR Bot Brain Explained: Why Some Kids Seem Hooked on Social Video Feeds - WSJ [08:22] TR News Ransomware is mostly a Windows issue; but securityboulevard won't tell you that https://securityboulevard.com/2022/05/blackcat-ransomware/ see http://techrights.org/2019/09/09/attacking-foss-by-proxy/ [08:22] TR News Ransomware is mostly a Windows issue; but securityboulevard won't tell you that https://securityboulevard.com/2022/05/blackcat-ransomware/ see http://techrights.org/2019/09/09/attacking-foss-by-proxy/ [08:22] TR Bot BlackCat Ransomware - Security Boulevard [08:22] TR Bot BlackCat Ransomware - Security Boulevard [08:22] TR Bot Security Boulevard is a Microsoft-Connected Attack Site Created by a Free Software-Hostile Person | Techrights [08:22] TR Bot Security Boulevard is a Microsoft-Connected Attack Site Created by a Free Software-Hostile Person | Techrights [08:24] TR News Phone SIM Card Use Privacy Strategies (better to avoid these completely) https://odysee.com/@RobBraxmanTech:6/simstrategy:c Source: RobBraxmanTech [08:24] TR News Phone SIM Card Use Privacy Strategies (better to avoid these completely) https://odysee.com/@RobBraxmanTech:6/simstrategy:c Source: RobBraxmanTech [08:24] TR Bot Phone SIM Card Use Privacy Strategies [08:24] TR Bot Phone SIM Card Use Privacy Strategies [08:25] TR News China To Ditch 50 Mil Windows PCs for Linux https://odysee.com/@BrodieRobertson:5/china-to-ditch-50-mil-windows-pcs-for:b Source: BrodieRobertson [08:25] TR News China To Ditch 50 Mil Windows PCs for Linux https://odysee.com/@BrodieRobertson:5/china-to-ditch-50-mil-windows-pcs-for:b Source: BrodieRobertson [08:25] TR Bot China To Ditch 50 Mil Windows PCs for Linux [08:25] TR Bot China To Ditch 50 Mil Windows PCs for Linux [08:25] TR News Clownflare Browser Integrity Check Blocking Many Non-Mainstream Browsers - SoylentNews https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/05/08/1745203 Source: soylentnews [08:25] TR News Clownflare Browser Integrity Check Blocking Many Non-Mainstream Browsers - SoylentNews https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/05/08/1745203 Source: soylentnews [08:25] TR Bot Cloudflare Browser Integrity Check Blocking Many Non-Mainstream Browsers - SoylentNews [08:25] TR Bot Cloudflare Browser Integrity Check Blocking Many Non-Mainstream Browsers - SoylentNews [08:26] TR News OpenPGP https://iacr.org/submit/files/slides/2022/rwc/rwc2022/76/slides.pdf [08:26] TR News OpenPGP https://iacr.org/submit/files/slides/2022/rwc/rwc2022/76/slides.pdf [08:27] TR News "Heads up! The OpenInfra Summit Berlin is coming!!! After the difficult pandemic times" https://ubuntu.com//blog/openinfra-summit-berlin | Source: Ubuntu [08:27] TR News "Heads up! The OpenInfra Summit Berlin is coming!!! After the difficult pandemic times" https://ubuntu.com//blog/openinfra-summit-berlin | Source: Ubuntu [08:27] TR Bot Summit Berlin is coming | Ubuntu [08:27] TR Bot Summit Berlin is coming | Ubuntu [08:28] TR News iophk: "something about Windoze workstations that article is Canonical pushing WSL to (knowingly or unknowingly) destroy or at least hurt GNU/Linux adoption / usage" https://ubuntu.com//blog/hp-brings-ubuntu-wsl-data-science | Source: Ubuntu [08:28] TR News iophk: "something about Windoze workstations that article is Canonical pushing WSL to (knowingly or unknowingly) destroy or at least hurt GNU/Linux adoption / usage" https://ubuntu.com//blog/hp-brings-ubuntu-wsl-data-science | Source: Ubuntu [08:28] TR Bot brings the power of Ubuntu-based data science to Windows workstations | Ubuntu [08:28] TR Bot brings the power of Ubuntu-based data science to Windows workstations | Ubuntu [08:29] TR News Canonical is not a GNU/Linux company. Mark Shuttleworth quit caring. About "bug #1"... https://ubuntu.com//blog/linux-on-mac-with-multipass-1-9 | Source: Ubuntu [08:29] TR News Canonical is not a GNU/Linux company. Mark Shuttleworth quit caring. About "bug #1"... https://ubuntu.com//blog/linux-on-mac-with-multipass-1-9 | Source: Ubuntu [08:29] TR Bot on Mac takes the next step with Multipass 1.9 | Ubuntu [08:29] TR Bot on Mac takes the next step with Multipass 1.9 | Ubuntu [08:29] TR News Biden protects the patent monopolies https://www.thenation.com/article/world/covid-vaccine-patents-biden/ | Source: The Nation [08:29] TR News Biden protects the patent monopolies https://www.thenation.com/article/world/covid-vaccine-patents-biden/ | Source: The Nation [08:29] TR Bot Biden Must Not Allow Big Pharma to Hoard Vaccine Technology | The Nation [08:29] TR Bot Biden Must Not Allow Big Pharma to Hoard Vaccine Technology | The Nation [08:31] TR News IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, May 10, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/11/irc-log-100522/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/11/irc-log-100522/ [08:31] TR News IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, May 10, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/11/irc-log-100522/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/11/irc-log-100522/ [08:31] TR Bot IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, May 10, 2022 | Techrights [08:31] TR Bot IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, May 10, 2022 | Techrights [08:31] TR News Clounflare is cancer on the Web. It needs to be ERADICATED, not "worked around". [08:31] TR News Clounflare is cancer on the Web. It needs to be ERADICATED, not "worked around". [08:32] TR News EFF and Roe (yes, EFF is run by women to focus on women's rights, more so than tech rights) https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/05/what-companies-can-do-now-protect-digital-rights-post-roe-world | Source: EFF [08:32] TR News EFF and Roe (yes, EFF is run by women to focus on women's rights, more so than tech rights) https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/05/what-companies-can-do-now-protect-digital-rights-post-roe-world | Source: EFF [08:32] TR Bot What Companies Can Do Now to Protect Digital Rights In A Post-Roe World | Electronic Frontier Foundation [08:32] TR Bot What Companies Can Do Now to Protect Digital Rights In A Post-Roe World | Electronic Frontier Foundation [08:32] TR News EFF and Roe (yes, EFF is run by women to focus on women's rights, more so than tech rights) https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/05/reproductive-privacy-requires-data-privacy | Source: EFF [08:32] TR News EFF and Roe (yes, EFF is run by women to focus on women's rights, more so than tech rights) https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/05/reproductive-privacy-requires-data-privacy | Source: EFF [08:32] TR Bot Reproductive Privacy Requires Data Privacy | Electronic Frontier Foundation [08:32] TR Bot Reproductive Privacy Requires Data Privacy | Electronic Frontier Foundation [08:34] TR News "Weve been running the Gender Balance in Computing programme of research since 2019" https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/gender-balance-in-computing-storytelling-approach-engaging-girls/ | Source: Raspberry Pi [08:34] TR News "Weve been running the Gender Balance in Computing programme of research since 2019" https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/gender-balance-in-computing-storytelling-approach-engaging-girls/ | Source: Raspberry Pi [08:34] TR Bot A storytelling approach for engaging girls in the Computing classroom: Pilot study results - Raspberry Pi [08:34] TR Bot A storytelling approach for engaging girls in the Computing classroom: Pilot study results - Raspberry Pi [08:34] SomeH4x0r you mean they elected a woman *just for this*? Evil, if so. [08:34] SomeH4x0r you mean they elected a woman *just for this*? Evil, if so. [08:35] schestowitz-TR no, it's nothing like that [08:35] schestowitz-TR no, it's nothing like that [08:35] schestowitz-TR women's rights are important [08:35] schestowitz-TR women's rights are important [08:35] schestowitz-TR but EFF is not that [08:35] schestowitz-TR but EFF is not that [08:35] schestowitz-TR EFF was founded by 3 men to focus on cyberspace [08:35] schestowitz-TR EFF was founded by 3 men to focus on cyberspace [08:35] schestowitz-TR and EFF has this longstanding pattern of deviating away [08:35] schestowitz-TR and EFF has this longstanding pattern of deviating away [08:36] schestowitz-TR months ago they kicked out a cofounder [08:36] schestowitz-TR months ago they kicked out a cofounder [08:36] SomeH4x0r women's right are important, as long as it does not turn into SJW toxicity [08:36] SomeH4x0r women's right are important, as long as it does not turn into SJW toxicity [08:36] schestowitz-TR years after the chief one had died [08:36] schestowitz-TR years after the chief one had died [08:36] schestowitz-TR and now EFF seems to be used for personal projects [08:36] schestowitz-TR and now EFF seems to be used for personal projects [08:36] schestowitz-TR not the charter [08:36] schestowitz-TR not the charter [08:36] schestowitz-TR SomeH4x0r: abortion seems outside the scope of EFF [08:36] schestowitz-TR SomeH4x0r: abortion seems outside the scope of EFF [08:36] schestowitz-TR it's a loaded subject [08:36] schestowitz-TR it's a loaded subject [08:36] schestowitz-TR on many levels [08:36] schestowitz-TR on many levels [08:36] schestowitz-TR and not a tech issue [08:36] schestowitz-TR and not a tech issue [08:37] schestowitz-TR imagine techrights doing articles about abortion [08:37] schestowitz-TR imagine techrights doing articles about abortion [08:37] schestowitz-TR it would make no sense [08:37] schestowitz-TR it would make no sense [08:37] schestowitz-TR surreal [08:37] schestowitz-TR surreal [08:37] schestowitz-TR yesterday was their third of forth article about Roe [08:37] schestowitz-TR yesterday was their third of forth article about Roe [08:37] schestowitz-TR EFF posts maybe, on average, 2 posts per day [08:37] schestowitz-TR EFF posts maybe, on average, 2 posts per day [08:38] Techrights-sec not just women's rights but a subset; The EFF was founded to serve in everybody;s interests not justa subset of subset [08:38] Techrights-sec not just women's rights but a subset; The EFF was founded to serve in everybody;s interests not justa subset of subset [08:39] schestowitz-TR some women are pro-abortion [08:39] schestowitz-TR some women are pro-abortion [08:39] matey eff ha s no credibility [08:39] matey eff ha s no credibility [08:39] schestowitz-TR so the EFF splits members apart [08:39] schestowitz-TR so the EFF splits members apart [08:39] schestowitz-TR not along lines of tech [08:39] schestowitz-TR not along lines of tech [08:39] schestowitz-TR or risks splitting apart [08:39] schestowitz-TR or risks splitting apart [08:39] matey theyve taken everything they ALREADY stood for and flushed it [08:39] matey theyve taken everything they ALREADY stood for and flushed it [08:39] schestowitz-TR on issues of tech [08:39] schestowitz-TR on issues of tech [08:39] schestowitz-TR based on beliefs on morals of abortion [08:39] schestowitz-TR based on beliefs on morals of abortion [08:39] matey so what difference does it make when they stand for something else? [08:39] matey so what difference does it make when they stand for something else? [08:39] Techrights-sec *nowadays* they have a pattern of going off track, but for many years they [08:39] Techrights-sec were focused [08:39] Techrights-sec *nowadays* they have a pattern of going off track, but for many years they [08:39] Techrights-sec were focused [08:39] Techrights-sec yep, people using it for personal projects sums it up [08:39] Techrights-sec yep, people using it for personal projects sums it up [08:39] matey again, theyve shown they can walk away from anything they stand for [08:39] matey again, theyve shown they can walk away from anything they stand for [08:39] matey once you have no credibility, you stand for nothing at all [08:39] matey once you have no credibility, you stand for nothing at all [08:40] matey its just a show [08:40] matey its just a show [08:40] matey pure bullshit, doesnt matter what cause its for [08:40] matey pure bullshit, doesnt matter what cause its for [08:40] matey the eff stands for zero causes [08:40] matey the eff stands for zero causes [08:40] matey theyre a brand for hire [08:40] matey theyre a brand for hire [08:40] matey give them money, theyll say something [08:40] matey give them money, theyll say something [08:40] schestowitz-TR that's what mark cuban did [08:40] schestowitz-TR that's what mark cuban did [08:40] schestowitz-TR he paid them [08:40] schestowitz-TR he paid them [08:40] schestowitz-TR so they campaigned on patents [08:40] schestowitz-TR so they campaigned on patents [08:41] schestowitz-TR I said this was problematic [08:41] schestowitz-TR I said this was problematic [08:41] schestowitz-TR billionaires taking eff as lobby for hire [08:41] schestowitz-TR billionaires taking eff as lobby for hire [08:41] schestowitz-TR provided it roughly aligns with some goals [08:41] schestowitz-TR provided it roughly aligns with some goals [08:41] schestowitz-TR mark cuban also invested in some patent troll [08:41] schestowitz-TR mark cuban also invested in some patent troll [08:41] schestowitz-TR but the issue is [08:41] schestowitz-TR but the issue is [08:41] schestowitz-TR member pay due fees [08:41] schestowitz-TR member pay due fees [08:41] schestowitz-TR and then comes some billionaire [08:41] schestowitz-TR and then comes some billionaire [08:41] schestowitz-TR drop a million [08:41] schestowitz-TR drop a million [08:41] schestowitz-TR staff gets hired for his pet project [08:41] schestowitz-TR staff gets hired for his pet project [08:41] schestowitz-TR while mentioning his name [08:41] schestowitz-TR while mentioning his name [08:41] schestowitz-TR in the JOB TITLE [08:41] schestowitz-TR in the JOB TITLE [08:41] schestowitz-TR to praise him [08:41] schestowitz-TR to praise him [08:42] matey i wonder if mark cuban is an enterpriser [08:42] matey i wonder if mark cuban is an enterpriser [08:42] schestowitz-TR that was when Barlow was still in charge BTW [08:42] schestowitz-TR that was when Barlow was still in charge BTW [08:42] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techrights [08:42] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techrights [08:42] matey im not an enterpriser, i just do useops [08:42] matey im not an enterpriser, i just do useops [08:42] matey useops are what users do, before they move up to devops and enterprising [08:42] matey useops are what users do, before they move up to devops and enterprising [08:42] Techrights-sec :( it seems to be getting that way [08:42] Techrights-sec :( it seems to be getting that way [08:43] matey useoppers and devoppers are like a totally different race (ibm is expert on this) [08:43] matey useoppers and devoppers are like a totally different race (ibm is expert on this) [08:43] matey enterprisers will set them straight [08:43] matey enterprisers will set them straight [08:45] matey enterprisers lead the devwaffen [08:45] matey enterprisers lead the devwaffen [08:45] schestowitz-TR waffen :-) [08:45] schestowitz-TR waffen :-) [08:45] matey ibms elite forces [08:45] matey ibms elite forces [08:45] schestowitz-TR the eneterprises waffen [08:45] schestowitz-TR the eneterprises waffen [08:45] schestowitz-TR hey hi smart clown [08:45] schestowitz-TR hey hi smart clown [08:45] matey clownwaffen [08:45] matey clownwaffen [08:45] schestowitz-TR "OBEY!!' [08:45] schestowitz-TR "OBEY!!' [08:45] schestowitz-TR "or STFU" [08:45] schestowitz-TR "or STFU" [08:46] matey /me pictures a swastika made out of opening square brackets [08:46] matey /me pictures a swastika made out of opening square brackets [08:46] schestowitz-TR anti-RMS opportunists called it founder complex [08:46] schestowitz-TR anti-RMS opportunists called it founder complex [08:46] schestowitz-TR as if a founder staying onboard is a bad thing [08:46] schestowitz-TR as if a founder staying onboard is a bad thing [08:46] schestowitz-TR when in reality there's ampe evidence the opposite is true [08:46] schestowitz-TR when in reality there's ampe evidence the opposite is true [08:46] Techrights-sec ack [08:46] Techrights-sec ack [08:47] matey well thats the thing, we had 20 years of torvalds worship [08:47] matey well thats the thing, we had 20 years of torvalds worship [08:47] matey then just short of the revelation that he invented 1s and 0s [08:47] matey then just short of the revelation that he invented 1s and 0s [08:47] matey they cancelled him, did stallman identically [08:47] matey they cancelled him, did stallman identically [08:47] matey and then had the audacity to imply that it was stallman, not torvalds who was sucking up hero worship [08:47] matey and then had the audacity to imply that it was stallman, not torvalds who was sucking up hero worship [08:48] matey thats the thing about marketing though [08:48] matey thats the thing about marketing though [08:48] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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[08:48] matey once you remove the bullshit ediface from everything used to build up torvalds, so it could be pivoted to a corporate brand [08:48] matey once you remove the bullshit ediface from everything used to build up torvalds, so it could be pivoted to a corporate brand [08:48] matey the linus foundation [08:48] matey the linus foundation [08:48] matey you poison the well and blame someone else [08:48] matey you poison the well and blame someone else [08:48] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techrights [08:48] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techrights [08:48] matey open source: worshipped torvalds for two decades [08:48] matey open source: worshipped torvalds for two decades [08:49] matey also open source: people who defend stallman are hero worshippers [08:49] matey also open source: people who defend stallman are hero worshippers [08:49] Techrights-sec indeed [08:49] Techrights-sec indeed [08:49] matey people who defend stallman are standing against history being rewritten [08:49] matey people who defend stallman are standing against history being rewritten [08:49] matey but you cant defend history or its "hero worship" [08:49] matey but you cant defend history or its "hero worship" [08:49] matey fuck these people [08:49] matey fuck these people [08:49] schestowitz-TR people who oppose OSI lying are homophobic [08:49] schestowitz-TR people who oppose OSI lying are homophobic [08:49] SomeH4x0r I dislike hero worshipping, that's why I'm on the "evil" side [08:49] SomeH4x0r I dislike hero worshipping, that's why I'm on the "evil" side [08:49] matey youre an idiot sometimes. this is one of them. [08:49] matey youre an idiot sometimes. this is one of them. [08:50] matey hero worshipping is a red herring. [08:50] matey hero worshipping is a red herring. [08:50] matey its a straw man [08:50] matey its a straw man [08:50] Techrights-sec yes [08:50] Techrights-sec yes [08:50] matey its got fuck-all to do with hero worship [08:50] matey its got fuck-all to do with hero worship [08:51] matey to be fair, i fell for all this open source bullshit once too [08:51] matey to be fair, i fell for all this open source bullshit once too [08:51] matey many years ago [08:51] matey many years ago [08:51] matey but its so smarmy and contrived [08:51] matey but its so smarmy and contrived [08:51] TR News "A worsening shortage of baby formula in stores across the U.S. is highlighting the urgent need for antitrust regulations" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/10/critics-say-iron-grip-market-monopolies-behind-baby-formula-shortage | Source: Common Dreams [08:51] TR News "A worsening shortage of baby formula in stores across the U.S. is highlighting the urgent need for antitrust regulations" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/10/critics-say-iron-grip-market-monopolies-behind-baby-formula-shortage | Source: Common Dreams [08:51] TR Bot Critics Say 'Iron-Grip on Market' by Monopolies Behind Baby Formula Shortage [08:51] TR Bot Critics Say 'Iron-Grip on Market' by Monopolies Behind Baby Formula Shortage [08:51] matey at some point you either get wise to it [08:51] matey at some point you either get wise to it [08:51] matey or it changes you [08:51] matey or it changes you [08:52] matey then you end up spouting bullshit forever [08:52] matey then you end up spouting bullshit forever [08:52] matey good luck [08:52] matey good luck [08:55] TR News Josh Simmons' employer is enabling this surveillance; does OSI know? https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/05/10/it-time-end-inhumane-ice-surveillance-immigrants-me | Source: Common Dreams [08:55] TR News Josh Simmons' employer is enabling this surveillance; does OSI know? https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/05/10/it-time-end-inhumane-ice-surveillance-immigrants-me | Source: Common Dreams [08:55] TR Bot Opinion | It Is Time to End Inhumane ICE Surveillance of Immigrants Like Me | Berto Hernandez [08:55] TR Bot Opinion | It Is Time to End Inhumane ICE Surveillance of Immigrants Like Me | Berto Hernandez [08:56] TR News So-called "cryptomining" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/10/50-groups-challenge-biden-rein-climate-killing-cryptomining | Source: Common Dreams [08:56] TR News So-called "cryptomining" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/10/50-groups-challenge-biden-rein-climate-killing-cryptomining | Source: Common Dreams [08:56] TR Bot 50+ Groups Challenge Biden to Rein In 'Climate-Killing Cryptomining' [08:56] TR Bot 50+ Groups Challenge Biden to Rein In 'Climate-Killing Cryptomining' [08:57] TR News "Dont feel bad if you dont know what Cistercian numbers are. Unless youre a monk of the Order of Cistercia" https://hackaday.com/2022/05/10/number-like-its-1234-ad-with-this-cistercian-keypad/ | Source: Hackaday [08:57] TR News "Dont feel bad if you dont know what Cistercian numbers are. Unless youre a monk of the Order of Cistercia" https://hackaday.com/2022/05/10/number-like-its-1234-ad-with-this-cistercian-keypad/ | Source: Hackaday [08:57] TR Bot Like Its 1234 AD With This Cistercian Keypad | Hackaday [08:57] TR Bot Like Its 1234 AD With This Cistercian Keypad | Hackaday [08:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 21.90 k/sec., IPFS upstream 23.05 average k/sec., average swarm size 459.86 [08:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 21.90 k/sec., IPFS upstream 23.05 average k/sec., average swarm size 459.86 ● May 11 [09:02] matey as if a founder staying onboard is a bad thing when in reality there's ampe evidence the opposite is true ack <- its a problem, theyre just not honest about it [09:02] matey as if a founder staying onboard is a bad thing when in reality there's ampe evidence the opposite is true ack <- its a problem, theyre just not honest about it [09:02] matey theyre opportunistic [09:02] matey theyre opportunistic [09:02] *Skywave has quit (connection closed) [09:02] *Skywave has quit (connection closed) [09:02] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@4wr2j48cc8cmq.irc) has joined #techrights [09:02] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@4wr2j48cc8cmq.irc) has joined #techrights [09:03] matey everyone knows the fsf is going to change. thats why like any unstable region gets manipulated by empires, open source and the tech industry in general is attacking with more of their bs than ever before [09:03] matey everyone knows the fsf is going to change. thats why like any unstable region gets manipulated by empires, open source and the tech industry in general is attacking with more of their bs than ever before [09:03] matey the power vacuum is already here [09:03] matey the power vacuum is already here [09:03] matey its even been evenly distributed [09:03] matey its even been evenly distributed [09:04] matey the fsf reminds me so much of iraq its unreal [09:04] matey the fsf reminds me so much of iraq its unreal [09:04] matey there are other (even more interesting) historical parallels [09:04] matey there are other (even more interesting) historical parallels [09:04] matey but people know what happened in iraq was bullshit [09:04] matey but people know what happened in iraq was bullshit [09:04] schestowitz-TR but iraq? [09:04] schestowitz-TR but iraq? [09:04] schestowitz-TR how so? [09:04] schestowitz-TR how so? [09:05] schestowitz-TR saddam? [09:05] schestowitz-TR saddam? [09:05] schestowitz-TR and what happened after? [09:05] schestowitz-TR and what happened after? [09:05] matey the connection to iraq only has a couple points, but theyre very big points [09:05] matey the connection to iraq only has a couple points, but theyre very big points [09:05] matey its only sort of about saddam, an unfortunate (unintended) side effect of this analogy is that rms is saddam of course [09:05] matey its only sort of about saddam, an unfortunate (unintended) side effect of this analogy is that rms is saddam of course [09:05] matey but its not about that, its about the situation (not the leader) [09:05] matey but its not about that, its about the situation (not the leader) [09:05] TR News Framework https://hackaday.com/2022/05/10/framework-board-gets-this-round-display-pc-rolling/ | Source: Hackaday [09:05] TR News Framework https://hackaday.com/2022/05/10/framework-board-gets-this-round-display-pc-rolling/ | Source: Hackaday [09:05] TR Bot Board Gets This Round Display PC Rolling | Hackaday [09:05] TR Bot Board Gets This Round Display PC Rolling | Hackaday [09:06] matey and about what the invasion was about, and how it worked [09:06] matey and about what the invasion was about, and how it worked [09:06] TR News "As with any other community, it takes all kinds to make the keyboard world go round." https://hackaday.com/2022/05/10/thinnest-keyboard-uses-cherry-diy-doubleshot-method/ | Source: Hackaday [09:06] TR News "As with any other community, it takes all kinds to make the keyboard world go round." https://hackaday.com/2022/05/10/thinnest-keyboard-uses-cherry-diy-doubleshot-method/ | Source: Hackaday [09:06] TR Bot Keyboard Uses Cherry DIY Doubleshot Method | Hackaday [09:06] TR Bot Keyboard Uses Cherry DIY Doubleshot Method | Hackaday [09:06] matey saddam was of course, a really shitty leader-- but it missed the point because no one had any intent of fixing that problem [09:06] matey saddam was of course, a really shitty leader-- but it missed the point because no one had any intent of fixing that problem [09:07] matey first, he was a secular leader, not a religious one [09:07] matey first, he was a secular leader, not a religious one [09:07] matey so even if he was shit, now the region is overrun with violent religious extremists [09:07] matey so even if he was shit, now the region is overrun with violent religious extremists [09:07] matey thats not really an improvement is it [09:07] matey thats not really an improvement is it [09:07] schestowitz-TR some benefit from this chaos [09:07] schestowitz-TR some benefit from this chaos [09:07] schestowitz-TR esp. rival countries [09:07] schestowitz-TR esp. rival countries [09:07] matey of course, and that IS the point [09:07] matey of course, and that IS the point [09:07] matey it was about stealing resources [09:07] matey it was about stealing resources [09:07] matey and the real enemy was in saudi arabia [09:07] matey and the real enemy was in saudi arabia [09:08] matey but you cant invade an ally. [09:08] matey but you cant invade an ally. [09:08] matey so lets go to iraq. AGAIN [09:08] matey so lets go to iraq. AGAIN [09:08] matey and lets pick on france (who i dont even like) because they wont sign onto this bullshit mass murder scam [09:08] matey and lets pick on france (who i dont even like) because they wont sign onto this bullshit mass murder scam [09:08] TR News IPFire 2.27 - Core Update 168 is available for testing Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164709 [09:08] TR News IPFire 2.27 - Core Update 168 is available for testing Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164709 [09:08] TR Bot IPFire 2.27 - Core Update 168 is available for testing | Tux Machines [09:08] TR Bot IPFire 2.27 - Core Update 168 is available for testing | Tux Machines [09:09] matey say what you will about the french, they were spot on about the iraq invasion [09:09] matey say what you will about the french, they were spot on about the iraq invasion [09:09] schestowitz-TR don't know about the french [09:09] schestowitz-TR don't know about the french [09:09] schestowitz-TR jaques [spelling] [09:09] schestowitz-TR jaques [spelling] [09:10] matey the scam was that people would go in and replace saddam with a non-tyrant [09:10] matey the scam was that people would go in and replace saddam with a non-tyrant [09:10] schestowitz-TR he was the one obstructing it [09:10] schestowitz-TR he was the one obstructing it [09:10] schestowitz-TR we wrote a lot about him in 2019 [09:10] schestowitz-TR we wrote a lot about him in 2019 [09:10] matey as far as i know that was more recent [09:10] matey as far as i know that was more recent [09:10] matey the iraq invasion happened 19 years ago [09:10] matey the iraq invasion happened 19 years ago [09:10] schestowitz-TR us likes to leave countries in disarray [09:10] schestowitz-TR us likes to leave countries in disarray [09:10] matey and i remember the one under bush sr [09:10] matey and i remember the one under bush sr [09:10] schestowitz-TR the british invaded many places [09:10] schestowitz-TR the british invaded many places [09:10] schestowitz-TR but they often ended up better off than neighbours [09:10] schestowitz-TR but they often ended up better off than neighbours [09:10] schestowitz-TR nairobi, singapore etc. [09:10] schestowitz-TR nairobi, singapore etc. [09:11] schestowitz-TR us mostly bombs places [09:11] schestowitz-TR us mostly bombs places [09:11] matey usa foreign policy is to british foreign policy as microsoft tactics are to ibm probably [09:11] matey usa foreign policy is to british foreign policy as microsoft tactics are to ibm probably [09:11] schestowitz-TR because it cannot get its way [09:11] schestowitz-TR because it cannot get its way [09:11] schestowitz-TR so resorts to revenge destruction [09:11] schestowitz-TR so resorts to revenge destruction [09:11] matey and i mean british empire foreign policy [09:11] matey and i mean british empire foreign policy [09:11] schestowitz-TR ibm is older and is less known for destruciton [09:11] schestowitz-TR ibm is older and is less known for destruciton [09:11] schestowitz-TR rather than FUD etc. [09:11] schestowitz-TR rather than FUD etc. [09:11] matey when it had more empireisers (their relationship to enterprisers is yet to be fully established) [09:11] matey when it had more empireisers (their relationship to enterprisers is yet to be fully established) [09:12] schestowitz-TR you don't heard people say [09:12] schestowitz-TR you don't heard people say [09:12] matey microsoft learned MOST of its tactics from ibm [09:12] matey microsoft learned MOST of its tactics from ibm [09:12] schestowitz-TR "watch our for those IBMers... they have entered to kill us" [09:12] schestowitz-TR "watch our for those IBMers... they have entered to kill us" [09:12] schestowitz-TR that's a Microsoft thinmg [09:12] schestowitz-TR that's a Microsoft thinmg [09:12] schestowitz-TR a cult [09:12] schestowitz-TR a cult [09:12] matey though its sort of like the cult of scientology under miscaviage vs when it was a cult under l ron hubbard [09:12] matey though its sort of like the cult of scientology under miscaviage vs when it was a cult under l ron hubbard [09:12] matey its more ruthless (it was never nice to begin with) [09:12] matey its more ruthless (it was never nice to begin with) [09:13] TR News Slave lady meets Orban https://telex.hu/english/2022/05/10/von-der-leyen-after-her-meeting-with-orban-some-progress-was-made | Source: Hungary http://techrights.org/2019/12/21/albrecht-ladson-von-der-leyen/ [09:13] TR News Slave lady meets Orban https://telex.hu/english/2022/05/10/von-der-leyen-after-her-meeting-with-orban-some-progress-was-made | Source: Hungary http://techrights.org/2019/12/21/albrecht-ladson-von-der-leyen/ [09:13] TR Bot Telex: Von der Leyen after her meeting with Orbn: Some progress was made [09:13] TR Bot Telex: Von der Leyen after her meeting with Orbn: Some progress was made [09:13] matey microsoft is more ruthless (a cult) than ibm [09:13] matey microsoft is more ruthless (a cult) than ibm [09:13] TR Bot Understanding Thierry Breton: Little Miss Ladson Goes to Brussels | Techrights [09:13] TR Bot Understanding Thierry Breton: Little Miss Ladson Goes to Brussels | Techrights [09:13] matey ibm sends lawyers [09:13] matey ibm sends lawyers [09:13] matey microsoft sends thugs [09:13] matey microsoft sends thugs [09:13] matey and lawyers [09:13] matey and lawyers [09:13] matey and bullshit artists [09:13] matey and bullshit artists [09:13] schestowitz speaking of sending laywers http://techrights.org/2020/01/10/gates-sponsored-mit/ [09:13] schestowitz speaking of sending laywers http://techrights.org/2020/01/10/gates-sponsored-mit/ [09:13] TR Bot Massachusetts Institute of Tall Tales (MIT) Covers Up Bill Gates Bribery of MIT Through a High-Profile Pedophile, Citing No Evidence Other Than Representatives of Gates Himself | Techrights [09:13] TR Bot Massachusetts Institute of Tall Tales (MIT) Covers Up Bill Gates Bribery of MIT Through a High-Profile Pedophile, Citing No Evidence Other Than Representatives of Gates Himself | Techrights [09:13] matey heh [09:13] matey heh [09:14] schestowitz now the Gates-bribed media distracts again [09:14] schestowitz now the Gates-bribed media distracts again [09:14] schestowitz painting Gates as victim of COVID [09:14] schestowitz painting Gates as victim of COVID [09:14] schestowitz NPR [09:14] schestowitz NPR [09:14] schestowitz maybe more [09:14] schestowitz maybe more [09:14] matey mit is so dirty id be happy to see it fall [09:14] matey mit is so dirty id be happy to see it fall [09:14] schestowitz he's trying to break news cycles [09:14] schestowitz he's trying to break news cycles [09:14] schestowitz about his crimes [09:14] schestowitz about his crimes [09:14] matey it started when they killed aaron [09:14] matey it started when they killed aaron [09:14] matey now this [09:14] matey now this [09:14] matey fuck mit [09:14] matey fuck mit [09:14] matey they should turn it into a mail-order university [09:14] matey they should turn it into a mail-order university [09:14] matey i hope it does [09:14] matey i hope it does [09:14] schestowitz-TR I was thinking of mit hours ago [09:14] schestowitz-TR I was thinking of mit hours ago [09:15] schestowitz-TR and how they never received justice [09:15] schestowitz-TR and how they never received justice [09:15] matey but instead of installing a new leader who wasnt a tyrant [09:15] matey but instead of installing a new leader who wasnt a tyrant [09:15] schestowitz-TR and how, like bbc, each time they're mentioned we should bring up the gates scnadals [09:15] schestowitz-TR and how, like bbc, each time they're mentioned we should bring up the gates scnadals [09:15] matey which of course, people paint rms as a tyrant [09:15] matey which of course, people paint rms as a tyrant [09:15] schestowitz-TR and remind people what they are [09:15] schestowitz-TR and remind people what they are [09:15] schestowitz-TR mit threw rms under the bus for writing a public email [09:15] schestowitz-TR mit threw rms under the bus for writing a public email [09:15] matey all the war industry did was create a power vacuum [09:15] matey all the war industry did was create a power vacuum [09:15] schestowitz-TR that was worded not too well [09:15] schestowitz-TR that was worded not too well [09:16] schestowitz-TR matey: look at it likle thios [09:16] schestowitz-TR matey: look at it likle thios [09:16] matey 08:15 mit threw rms under the bus for writing a public email 08:14 now this <- this is what i was referring to [09:16] matey 08:15 mit threw rms under the bus for writing a public email 08:14 now this <- this is what i was referring to [09:16] schestowitz-TR the positive slant: [09:16] schestowitz-TR the positive slant: [09:16] schestowitz-TR then they fight you [09:16] schestowitz-TR then they fight you [09:16] matey after they killed aaron [09:16] matey after they killed aaron [09:16] schestowitz-TR they ARE fighting [09:16] schestowitz-TR they ARE fighting [09:16] matey they worked to kill free software [09:16] matey they worked to kill free software [09:16] schestowitz-TR IBM is KILLING itself in the fighting [09:16] schestowitz-TR IBM is KILLING itself in the fighting [09:16] schestowitz-TR like Putin entering Ukraine [09:16] schestowitz-TR like Putin entering Ukraine [09:16] matey i wanted to go to mit when i was younger (and didnt know i would suck at math so much) [09:16] matey i wanted to go to mit when i was younger (and didnt know i would suck at math so much) [09:16] schestowitz-TR and then Ukraine is being armed by the West [09:16] schestowitz-TR and then Ukraine is being armed by the West [09:16] matey i REALLY suck at math. im way better at typing. [09:16] matey i REALLY suck at math. im way better at typing. [09:16] schestowitz-TR a proxy war to lower Russian military might [09:16] schestowitz-TR a proxy war to lower Russian military might [09:16] matey its ok, im just not an engineer. [09:16] matey its ok, im just not an engineer. [09:16] schestowitz-TR IBM will kill itself [09:16] schestowitz-TR IBM will kill itself [09:17] matey thats not fast enough [09:17] matey thats not fast enough [09:17] schestowitz-TR [09:16] i wanted to go to mit when i was younger (and didnt know i would suck at math so much) [09:17] schestowitz-TR [09:16] i wanted to go to mit when i was younger (and didnt know i would suck at math so much) [09:17] schestowitz-TR my grandpa also [09:17] schestowitz-TR my grandpa also [09:17] schestowitz-TR but I decided never go study in the US [09:17] schestowitz-TR but I decided never go study in the US [09:17] schestowitz-TR that was JUST AFTER the dotcom bust [09:17] schestowitz-TR that was JUST AFTER the dotcom bust [09:17] schestowitz-TR post 2000 [09:17] schestowitz-TR post 2000 [09:17] schestowitz-TR I was 18 [09:17] schestowitz-TR I was 18 [09:17] matey one of the professors at mit worked on the manhattan project [09:17] matey one of the professors at mit worked on the manhattan project [09:17] matey i met him [09:17] matey i met him [09:17] matey when i was a kid [09:17] matey when i was a kid [09:17] matey at his office, at mit [09:17] matey at his office, at mit [09:17] matey it was an interesting place then [09:17] matey it was an interesting place then [09:18] matey its becoming a corporate dick-sucking contest like most universities these days [09:18] matey its becoming a corporate dick-sucking contest like most universities these days [09:18] schestowitz-TR I'm sure you two had a blast [09:18] schestowitz-TR I'm sure you two had a blast [09:18] matey woof [09:18] matey woof [09:18] schestowitz-TR error: missing argument [09:18] schestowitz-TR error: missing argument [09:19] matey at any rate, i dont love mit anymore [09:19] matey at any rate, i dont love mit anymore [09:19] matey but i did when i was younger [09:19] matey but i did when i was younger [09:19] schestowitz-TR dare I say it's not just MIT? [09:19] schestowitz-TR dare I say it's not just MIT? [09:19] schestowitz-TR and more of an image issue of a nation? [09:19] schestowitz-TR and more of an image issue of a nation? [09:19] schestowitz-TR after bush ii? [09:19] schestowitz-TR after bush ii? [09:19] matey as for not qualifying, im not sour about that. theres a lot of LESS prestigious universities i wouldnt be a good engineer at too [09:19] matey as for not qualifying, im not sour about that. theres a lot of LESS prestigious universities i wouldnt be a good engineer at too [09:19] matey i dont hate them [09:19] matey i dont hate them [09:20] schestowitz-TR USA had a bit of a better image worldwide before that [09:20] schestowitz-TR USA had a bit of a better image worldwide before that [09:20] matey dare I say it's not just MIT? <- i already did [09:20] matey dare I say it's not just MIT? <- i already did [09:20] schestowitz-TR arrogance notwithstanding [09:20] schestowitz-TR arrogance notwithstanding [09:20] matey usa only gets credit for the bad things [09:20] matey usa only gets credit for the bad things [09:20] matey to be fair, theres a fuckload of that. [09:20] matey to be fair, theres a fuckload of that. [09:20] schestowitz-TR many nationalists think the world envies them [09:20] schestowitz-TR many nationalists think the world envies them [09:20] schestowitz-TR while they live in tent cities and cars [09:20] schestowitz-TR while they live in tent cities and cars [09:21] matey but it becomes a scapegoat for everything the rest of the world does [09:21] matey but it becomes a scapegoat for everything the rest of the world does [09:21] schestowitz-TR "yeah... they just enjoy our walmart and stuff" [09:21] schestowitz-TR "yeah... they just enjoy our walmart and stuff" [09:21] matey now, when your m.o. is to have your hands in everything [09:21] matey now, when your m.o. is to have your hands in everything [09:21] matey and the result is similar... [09:21] matey and the result is similar... [09:21] schestowitz-TR "pagan losers" -Fox and Friends [09:21] schestowitz-TR "pagan losers" -Fox and Friends [09:21] matey its very difficult to use the word "scapegoat" without irony [09:21] matey its very difficult to use the word "scapegoat" without irony [09:21] matey but its like [09:21] matey but its like [09:21] schestowitz-TR I did not apply for MIT [09:21] schestowitz-TR I did not apply for MIT [09:21] matey imagine the deadliest serial killer getting framed for a murder, right? [09:21] matey imagine the deadliest serial killer getting framed for a murder, right? [09:21] schestowitz-TR but at 17 I did apply for another Boston-based university [09:21] schestowitz-TR but at 17 I did apply for another Boston-based university [09:22] schestowitz-TR they kept chasing me [09:22] schestowitz-TR they kept chasing me [09:22] schestowitz-TR then 2000 "happened" [09:22] schestowitz-TR then 2000 "happened" [09:22] matey his innocence isnt the point-- the point is that someone else is going free because the wrong person is getting the blame [09:22] matey his innocence isnt the point-- the point is that someone else is going free because the wrong person is getting the blame [09:22] schestowitz-TR tech has not improved since then BTW [09:22] schestowitz-TR tech has not improved since then BTW [09:22] schestowitz-TR look what we had in 2000 [09:22] schestowitz-TR look what we had in 2000 [09:22] matey usa isnt guilty of all the crimes in the world [09:22] matey usa isnt guilty of all the crimes in the world [09:22] schestowitz-TR and what we have now [09:22] schestowitz-TR and what we have now [09:22] matey just some of the bigger ones (and many of the smaller ones) [09:22] matey just some of the bigger ones (and many of the smaller ones) [09:22] schestowitz-TR in 2000 we already had CounterStrike and stuff [09:22] schestowitz-TR in 2000 we already had CounterStrike and stuff [09:22] matey theres no reason everyone else should be off the hook (for collaborating, if nothing else) [09:22] matey theres no reason everyone else should be off the hook (for collaborating, if nothing else) [09:23] schestowitz-TR now we just render more polygons and waste more power [09:23] schestowitz-TR now we just render more polygons and waste more power [09:23] matey i mean britain went to iraq with usa under false pretenses [09:23] matey i mean britain went to iraq with usa under false pretenses [09:23] matey a lot of countries did [09:23] matey a lot of countries did [09:23] schestowitz-TR Spain [09:23] schestowitz-TR Spain [09:23] TR News Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Atlassian Bamboo Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164710 [09:23] TR News Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Atlassian Bamboo Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164710 [09:23] TR Bot Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Atlassian Bamboo | Tux Machines [09:23] TR Bot Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Atlassian Bamboo | Tux Machines [09:23] matey those civlians were murdered for industry [09:23] matey those civlians were murdered for industry [09:23] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164711 [09:23] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164711 [09:23] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [09:23] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [09:23] matey for money, no other reason [09:23] matey for money, no other reason [09:24] schestowitz-TR also troops [09:24] schestowitz-TR also troops [09:24] schestowitz-TR poverty helps draft people [09:24] schestowitz-TR poverty helps draft people [09:24] schestowitz-TR not forcibly per se [09:24] schestowitz-TR not forcibly per se [09:24] schestowitz-TR just make them broke enough [09:24] schestowitz-TR just make them broke enough [09:24] matey yeah im against troops being deployed for bullshit, but its nothing new [09:24] matey yeah im against troops being deployed for bullshit, but its nothing new [09:24] schestowitz-TR war can be "necessary" [09:24] schestowitz-TR war can be "necessary" [09:24] schestowitz-TR counter-invasion for instance [09:24] schestowitz-TR counter-invasion for instance [09:24] matey it was nearly a century ago that butler exposed the corporate plot against the usa [09:24] matey it was nearly a century ago that butler exposed the corporate plot against the usa [09:24] schestowitz-TR but that's not what we see in recent decades [09:24] schestowitz-TR but that's not what we see in recent decades [09:25] matey hes the one who said "the flag follows the money and the troops follow the flag" [09:25] matey hes the one who said "the flag follows the money and the troops follow the flag" [09:25] schestowitz-TR yeah [09:25] schestowitz-TR yeah [09:25] schestowitz-TR it was a nice sentence [09:25] schestowitz-TR it was a nice sentence [09:25] matey and he was a general, and he won the congressional medal of honor [09:25] matey and he was a general, and he won the congressional medal of honor [09:25] matey theres no congressional medal of honour that i know of [09:25] matey theres no congressional medal of honour that i know of [09:26] matey but it does look a bit like one of the orders the queen gives out [09:26] matey but it does look a bit like one of the orders the queen gives out [09:26] schestowitz-TR they usually spill the beans only late [09:26] schestowitz-TR they usually spill the beans only late [09:26] matey but no sash, so they dangle it from a ribbon [09:26] matey but no sash, so they dangle it from a ribbon [09:26] schestowitz-TR when little is left to be lost [09:26] schestowitz-TR when little is left to be lost [09:26] schestowitz-TR unloading the guilt [09:26] schestowitz-TR unloading the guilt [09:26] schestowitz-TR I am sceptical [09:26] schestowitz-TR I am sceptical [09:26] schestowitz-TR it's like "changing from within" [09:26] schestowitz-TR it's like "changing from within" [09:26] schestowitz-TR work FOR the system for 40 years [09:26] schestowitz-TR work FOR the system for 40 years [09:26] matey i dunno, butler became aware of the plot because they trusted him to be a good old boy [09:26] matey i dunno, butler became aware of the plot because they trusted him to be a good old boy [09:27] schestowitz-TR then, afterwards, spent a month badmouthing it [09:27] schestowitz-TR then, afterwards, spent a month badmouthing it [09:27] matey and he turned on them [09:27] matey and he turned on them [09:27] schestowitz-TR BTW, if I decided to leave my job this week, I'll have many stories to tell [09:27] schestowitz-TR BTW, if I decided to leave my job this week, I'll have many stories to tell [09:27] matey i would say hes probably a geniune exception [09:27] matey i would say hes probably a geniune exception [09:27] schestowitz-TR Many NSA whistleblowers are old people [09:27] schestowitz-TR Many NSA whistleblowers are old people [09:27] schestowitz-TR like Binney [09:27] schestowitz-TR like Binney [09:27] schestowitz-TR they say, what's gonna happen? [09:27] schestowitz-TR they say, what's gonna happen? [09:27] matey i think theres another layer [09:27] matey i think theres another layer [09:27] schestowitz-TR on many levels [09:27] schestowitz-TR on many levels [09:28] matey im not saying it ISNT like you say [09:28] matey im not saying it ISNT like you say [09:28] schestowitz-TR inc. them being close to the end of life, not just career [09:28] schestowitz-TR inc. them being close to the end of life, not just career [09:28] matey but i think theres another part to it, sometimes [09:28] matey but i think theres another part to it, sometimes [09:28] matey institutions change [09:28] matey institutions change [09:28] matey people become increasingly aware of them getting worse [09:28] matey people become increasingly aware of them getting worse [09:28] matey like the stalin regime-- it was always bad [09:28] matey like the stalin regime-- it was always bad [09:28] matey but it became worse, to the point where he was going to kill his closest people [09:28] matey but it became worse, to the point where he was going to kill his closest people [09:28] TR News Rutube https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/05/10/the-battle-for-rutube | Source: Meduza [09:28] TR News Rutube https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/05/10/the-battle-for-rutube | Source: Meduza [09:28] TR Bot NO TITLE [09:28] TR Bot NO TITLE [09:28] matey so they (probably) murdered him [09:28] matey so they (probably) murdered him [09:29] matey in russia you can never trust "natural causes" [09:29] matey in russia you can never trust "natural causes" [09:29] matey the timing was a hell of a coincidence [09:29] matey the timing was a hell of a coincidence [09:29] TR News Daniel Hale: hero, burned by oligarch Omidyar and his pack of wolves https://couragefound.org/2022/05/sign-petitions-calling-for-daniel-hales-freedom/ | Source: Courage Found [09:29] TR News Daniel Hale: hero, burned by oligarch Omidyar and his pack of wolves https://couragefound.org/2022/05/sign-petitions-calling-for-daniel-hales-freedom/ | Source: Courage Found [09:29] TR Bot Sign petitions calling for Daniel Hales freedom | Courage Foundation [09:29] TR Bot Sign petitions calling for Daniel Hales freedom | Courage Foundation [09:29] schestowitz-TR apropos ^ [09:29] schestowitz-TR apropos ^ [09:29] matey fingers crossed! [09:29] matey fingers crossed! [09:29] schestowitz-TR Hale is young [09:29] schestowitz-TR Hale is young [09:29] matey but the thing is, bad institutions get worse [09:29] matey but the thing is, bad institutions get worse [09:29] matey like the nsa [09:29] matey like the nsa [09:29] schestowitz-TR I made 3 friends online who are drone whistleblower [09:29] schestowitz-TR I made 3 friends online who are drone whistleblower [09:30] schestowitz-TR inc. Bryant, who killed over 1600 people with dronems [09:30] schestowitz-TR inc. Bryant, who killed over 1600 people with dronems [09:30] schestowitz-TR Bryant had to sort of vanish due to threats to his family [09:30] schestowitz-TR Bryant had to sort of vanish due to threats to his family [09:30] schestowitz-TR after he had ousted himself [09:30] schestowitz-TR after he had ousted himself [09:30] matey the thing is, many whistleblowers started out as people who believed in the good of the system [09:30] matey the thing is, many whistleblowers started out as people who believed in the good of the system [09:30] matey then once they realised it wasnt good [09:30] matey then once they realised it wasnt good [09:30] schestowitz-TR became a hero for a bit, then had to go undercover like Rushdie [09:30] schestowitz-TR became a hero for a bit, then had to go undercover like Rushdie [09:30] matey they take some time to doubt themselves [09:30] matey they take some time to doubt themselves [09:30] matey to second guess [09:30] matey to second guess [09:30] schestowitz-TR Bryant was young also [09:30] schestowitz-TR Bryant was young also [09:30] schestowitz-TR maybe about my age [09:30] schestowitz-TR maybe about my age [09:31] matey but eventually they turn against the corruption theyve become aware of [09:31] matey but eventually they turn against the corruption theyve become aware of [09:31] matey not all of them were aware of it all along [09:31] matey not all of them were aware of it all along [09:31] matey they believed they were working for good people [09:31] matey they believed they were working for good people [09:31] matey binney in particular, was never against surveillance, within constitutional limits [09:31] matey binney in particular, was never against surveillance, within constitutional limits [09:31] TR News "After 10 years of legal battles following the closure of Megaupload, Mathias Ortmann and Bram van der Kolk have reached a deal with the authorities" https://torrentfreak.com/megaupload-pair-sign-deal-to-avoid-extradition-dotcom-vows-to-fight-on-220510/ | Source: Torrent Freak [09:31] TR News "After 10 years of legal battles following the closure of Megaupload, Mathias Ortmann and Bram van der Kolk have reached a deal with the authorities" https://torrentfreak.com/megaupload-pair-sign-deal-to-avoid-extradition-dotcom-vows-to-fight-on-220510/ | Source: Torrent Freak [09:31] TR Bot Pair Sign Deal to Avoid Extradition, Dotcom Vows to Fight On * TorrentFreak [09:31] TR Bot Pair Sign Deal to Avoid Extradition, Dotcom Vows to Fight On * TorrentFreak [09:32] matey you know why they decided to go with mass surveillance, which can be (arguably, even by binney) LESS effective? [09:32] matey you know why they decided to go with mass surveillance, which can be (arguably, even by binney) LESS effective? [09:32] matey it COSTS MORE [09:32] matey it COSTS MORE [09:32] TR News "A man who was wrongfully accused of pirating several adult films has finally recouped $108k in fees and costs" https://torrentfreak.com/wrongfully-accused-pirate-recoups-108k-from-copyright-troll-220510/ | Source: Torrent Freak [09:32] TR News "A man who was wrongfully accused of pirating several adult films has finally recouped $108k in fees and costs" https://torrentfreak.com/wrongfully-accused-pirate-recoups-108k-from-copyright-troll-220510/ | Source: Torrent Freak [09:32] TR Bot Accused Pirate Recoups $108k From 'Copyright Troll' * TorrentFreak [09:32] TR Bot Accused Pirate Recoups $108k From 'Copyright Troll' * TorrentFreak [09:32] matey and that means people will go to greater lengths to create a market for it as a solution [09:32] matey and that means people will go to greater lengths to create a market for it as a solution [09:32] TR News Pulitzer Prizes https://www.democracynow.org/2022/5/10/pulitzer_prize_winning_podcast_suave_futuro | Source: Democracy Now [09:32] TR News Pulitzer Prizes https://www.democracynow.org/2022/5/10/pulitzer_prize_winning_podcast_suave_futuro | Source: Democracy Now [09:32] TR Bot Maria Hinojosa, Futuro Media & PRX Win Pulitzer for Suave Podcast on Prisoners Journey to Freedom | Democracy Now! [09:32] TR Bot Maria Hinojosa, Futuro Media & PRX Win Pulitzer for Suave Podcast on Prisoners Journey to Freedom | Democracy Now! [09:32] matey mass surveillance is like when youre trying to find a needle in a haystack [09:32] matey mass surveillance is like when youre trying to find a needle in a haystack [09:33] matey so you decided to take all the hay in the world, and add that to the hay you were already looking in [09:33] matey so you decided to take all the hay in the world, and add that to the hay you were already looking in [09:33] matey its not efficient. its PROFITABLE [09:33] matey its not efficient. its PROFITABLE [09:33] matey its also completely illegal [09:33] matey its also completely illegal [09:33] matey the nsa didnt care about that [09:33] matey the nsa didnt care about that [09:33] schestowitz-TR yes [09:33] schestowitz-TR yes [09:33] matey i mean the mission of the nsa wasnt all wrong [09:33] matey i mean the mission of the nsa wasnt all wrong [09:33] schestowitz-TR ThomasDrake1 called it fraud and waste [09:33] schestowitz-TR ThomasDrake1 called it fraud and waste [09:33] schestowitz-TR misuse of taxpayers money [09:33] schestowitz-TR misuse of taxpayers money [09:34] schestowitz-TR and fraudulent contracts [09:34] schestowitz-TR and fraudulent contracts [09:34] matey you look at communications for signals that indicate serious threats to the public [09:34] matey you look at communications for signals that indicate serious threats to the public [09:34] schestowitz-TR Some surveillance IS needed [09:34] schestowitz-TR Some surveillance IS needed [09:34] matey theyve been doing it for decades [09:34] matey theyve been doing it for decades [09:34] schestowitz-TR like OSS pre CIA/NSA [09:34] schestowitz-TR like OSS pre CIA/NSA [09:34] matey yes, some surveillance makes sense [09:34] matey yes, some surveillance makes sense [09:34] schestowitz-TR you might end up in a war [09:34] schestowitz-TR you might end up in a war [09:34] schestowitz-TR but it became an industry [09:34] schestowitz-TR but it became an industry [09:34] schestowitz-TR every person does some spying [09:34] schestowitz-TR every person does some spying [09:34] matey and you know what indsustry does [09:34] matey and you know what indsustry does [09:34] schestowitz-TR like checking what the neighbours do [09:34] schestowitz-TR like checking what the neighbours do [09:34] matey it turns everything up to 11 for profit [09:34] matey it turns everything up to 11 for profit [09:34] schestowitz-TR in case they burn the house down [09:34] schestowitz-TR in case they burn the house down [09:35] matey industry and stalin have a lot in common [09:35] matey industry and stalin have a lot in common [09:35] schestowitz-TR [tell me all about it meme] [09:35] schestowitz-TR [tell me all about it meme] [09:35] matey the more power they get [09:35] matey the more power they get [09:35] matey and they get a LOT [09:35] matey and they get a LOT [09:35] matey the more paranoid they are about protecting it [09:35] matey the more paranoid they are about protecting it [09:35] matey and the more paranoid they get [09:35] matey and the more paranoid they get [09:36] matey the more dangerous they become to the entire world [09:36] matey the more dangerous they become to the entire world [09:36] matey or at least everything they touch [09:36] matey or at least everything they touch [09:36] matey having so much power should put you at ease [09:36] matey having so much power should put you at ease [09:36] matey but thats not what it does [09:36] matey but thats not what it does [09:36] TR News MusKSA (oil money buying Twitter) spreads climate disinfo or turns a blind eye https://www.desmog.com/2022/05/10/twitters-new-ad-policy-ignores-a-subtler-form-of-climate-disinformation/ | Source: DeSmog [09:36] TR News MusKSA (oil money buying Twitter) spreads climate disinfo or turns a blind eye https://www.desmog.com/2022/05/10/twitters-new-ad-policy-ignores-a-subtler-form-of-climate-disinformation/ | Source: DeSmog [09:36] matey its like if you had a trillion dollars [09:36] matey its like if you had a trillion dollars [09:36] TR Bot New Ad Policy Ignores a Subtler Form of Climate Disinformation - DeSmog [09:36] TR Bot New Ad Policy Ignores a Subtler Form of Climate Disinformation - DeSmog [09:37] matey youd care more about protecting it (and yourself) than it would ever make your life easier [09:37] matey youd care more about protecting it (and yourself) than it would ever make your life easier [09:37] matey it only takes $10,000 to damage a project like curl forever [09:37] matey it only takes $10,000 to damage a project like curl forever [09:37] matey im not saying thats what happened [09:37] matey im not saying thats what happened [09:37] Techrights-sec yep that's what it'll be used for -- spreading strife and disinformation [09:37] Techrights-sec yep that's what it'll be used for -- spreading strife and disinformation [09:37] Techrights-sec at a scale that will vastly overshadow what we saw before [09:37] Techrights-sec at a scale that will vastly overshadow what we saw before [09:37] matey but money like that is a liability to small enough project [09:37] matey but money like that is a liability to small enough project [09:38] schestowitz-TR brb [09:38] schestowitz-TR brb [09:39] TR News EFF: We take money from billionaires and from Gulag. Can you top up their 'donations'? https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/04/token-thanks-brighter-future | Source: EFF [09:39] TR News EFF: We take money from billionaires and from Gulag. Can you top up their 'donations'? https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/04/token-thanks-brighter-future | Source: EFF [09:39] TR Bot A Token of Thanks for a Brighter Future | Electronic Frontier Foundation [09:39] TR Bot A Token of Thanks for a Brighter Future | Electronic Frontier Foundation [09:39] TR News "Mickens speaks with EFF's Cindy Cohn and Danny OBrien about some of the problems inherent in educating computer scientists" https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/05/podcast-episode-philosopher-king | Source: EFF [09:39] TR News "Mickens speaks with EFF's Cindy Cohn and Danny OBrien about some of the problems inherent in educating computer scientists" https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/05/podcast-episode-philosopher-king | Source: EFF [09:39] TR Bot Podcast Episode: The Philosopher King | Electronic Frontier Foundation [09:39] TR Bot Podcast Episode: The Philosopher King | Electronic Frontier Foundation [09:40] TR News Trump and MusKSA (yes, Saudis funded the sale) want to cause more strife https://truthout.org/articles/elon-musk-says-hell-let-trump-back-on-twitter-calling-ban-foolish/ | Source: TruthOut [09:40] TR News Trump and MusKSA (yes, Saudis funded the sale) want to cause more strife https://truthout.org/articles/elon-musk-says-hell-let-trump-back-on-twitter-calling-ban-foolish/ | Source: TruthOut [09:40] TR Bot Elon Musk Says Hell Let Trump Back on Twitter, Calling Ban Foolish [09:40] TR Bot Elon Musk Says Hell Let Trump Back on Twitter, Calling Ban Foolish [09:40] matey the way to kill a small simple project is to make it large enough for a corporation to steer it [09:40] matey the way to kill a small simple project is to make it large enough for a corporation to steer it [09:40] matey then its fucked [09:40] matey then its fucked [09:41] TR News Twitter itself is election meddling while foreign-owned [09:41] TR News Twitter itself is election meddling while foreign-owned [09:42] matey but as long as anyone and his mother can fork it [09:42] matey but as long as anyone and his mother can fork it [09:42] matey the goal is to undo that level of simplicity [09:42] matey the goal is to undo that level of simplicity [09:43] matey wget is developed partly on github [09:43] matey wget is developed partly on github [09:43] matey i can write a replacement in python, in one or two lines, but a lot of websites wont look favourably on it [09:43] matey i can write a replacement in python, in one or two lines, but a lot of websites wont look favourably on it [09:43] matey wget is more reliable [09:43] matey wget is more reliable [09:44] matey and yet the maintainers see fit to leverage microsofts efforts at monopoly to develop it [09:44] matey and yet the maintainers see fit to leverage microsofts efforts at monopoly to develop it [09:45] matey which really sends a mixed messge about what gnu stands for (except that it doesnt stand for anything anymore) [09:45] matey which really sends a mixed messge about what gnu stands for (except that it doesnt stand for anything anymore) [09:45] matey gnu is important because of what it DID stand for [09:45] matey gnu is important because of what it DID stand for [09:45] matey and it did more than any other project, ever. [09:45] matey and it did more than any other project, ever. [09:45] matey there was never a project that stood for more, and there may not be for some time [09:45] matey there was never a project that stood for more, and there may not be for some time [09:45] matey but that doesnt mean gnu isnt turning its back on its mission [09:45] matey but that doesnt mean gnu isnt turning its back on its mission [09:46] TR News Biden and the patents, doing nothing to dismantle the robbery https://truthout.org/articles/nobel-laureates-and-former-world-leaders-push-biden-to-fund-global-covid-fight/ | Source: TruthOut [09:46] TR News Biden and the patents, doing nothing to dismantle the robbery https://truthout.org/articles/nobel-laureates-and-former-world-leaders-push-biden-to-fund-global-covid-fight/ | Source: TruthOut [09:46] TR Bot Nobel Laureates and Former World Leaders Push Biden to Fund Global COVID Fight [09:46] TR Bot Nobel Laureates and Former World Leaders Push Biden to Fund Global COVID Fight [09:46] matey also the divide between gnu and fsf is completely artificial [09:46] matey also the divide between gnu and fsf is completely artificial [09:47] matey the fsf has the copyright, the trademark, the funding, the infrastructure, AND it holds the leader hostage [09:47] matey the fsf has the copyright, the trademark, the funding, the infrastructure, AND it holds the leader hostage [09:48] matey there was this effort to pretend that gnu is separate from the fsf [09:48] matey there was this effort to pretend that gnu is separate from the fsf [09:48] matey how is it separate? their fates are entirely linked [09:48] matey how is it separate? their fates are entirely linked [09:49] matey by all of the above and more [09:49] matey by all of the above and more [09:49] matey if the fsf falls, gnu falls [09:49] matey if the fsf falls, gnu falls [09:49] matey and without gnu, the fsf is a joke [09:49] matey and without gnu, the fsf is a joke [09:49] matey how can the fsf protect YOUR freedom when they cant even protect their own? [09:49] matey how can the fsf protect YOUR freedom when they cant even protect their own? [09:50] mjg59_ If GNU made a clear argument that they were able and wanted to manage the copyright for GNU code, there's no political way the FSF could say no [09:50] mjg59_ If GNU made a clear argument that they were able and wanted to manage the copyright for GNU code, there's no political way the FSF could say no [09:50] mjg59_ And I'd be in favour of that if that's what GNU projects wanted [09:50] mjg59_ And I'd be in favour of that if that's what GNU projects wanted [09:50] matey as far as i know, gnu is just a brand [09:50] matey as far as i know, gnu is just a brand [09:50] matey and a brand cant hold copyright [09:50] matey and a brand cant hold copyright [09:51] mjg59_ There's no meaningful legal entity, but that's fixable [09:51] mjg59_ There's no meaningful legal entity, but that's fixable [09:51] matey or breakable [09:51] matey or breakable [09:51] matey id say the latter is more likely [09:51] matey id say the latter is more likely [09:51] mjg59_ There's obviously risks associated with taking over responsibilities from a relatively well-funded org [09:51] mjg59_ There's obviously risks associated with taking over responsibilities from a relatively well-funded org [09:51] mjg59_ But GNU *could* exist independently, if GNU so chose [09:51] mjg59_ But GNU *could* exist independently, if GNU so chose [09:52] matey this is one of those things where [09:52] matey this is one of those things where [09:52] matey on the surface theres absolutely zero wrong with your argument [09:52] matey on the surface theres absolutely zero wrong with your argument [09:52] mjg59_ If there's no existing mechanism for transfer of copyrights in the event of the FSF failing (and that's something I really should have investigated while I was there but didn't, that's on me), that should be fixed [09:52] mjg59_ If there's no existing mechanism for transfer of copyrights in the event of the FSF failing (and that's something I really should have investigated while I was there but didn't, that's on me), that should be fixed [09:53] matey i think the reality is that if gnu became independent, it would die an even faster, messier death [09:53] matey i think the reality is that if gnu became independent, it would die an even faster, messier death [09:53] matey not because the fsf is protecting it [09:53] matey not because the fsf is protecting it [09:53] matey anymore than calculus acts as a barrier between sugary food and a tooth [09:53] matey anymore than calculus acts as a barrier between sugary food and a tooth [09:54] matey but is itself a product of decay [09:54] matey but is itself a product of decay [09:54] *techrights-news has quit (readQ exceeded (read too many bytes without terminating newline)) [09:54] *techrights-news has quit (readQ exceeded (read too many bytes without terminating newline)) [09:54] matey with the fsf holding the umbrella, it will take longer for gnu to be sold off piece by piece [09:54] matey with the fsf holding the umbrella, it will take longer for gnu to be sold off piece by piece [09:55] matey without the fsf that will happen even faster [09:55] matey without the fsf that will happen even faster [09:55] mjg59_ Mm yeah the standard assignment form doesn't discuss this case [09:55] mjg59_ Mm yeah the standard assignment form doesn't discuss this case [09:55] mjg59_ That might be worth digging into [09:55] mjg59_ That might be worth digging into [09:55] *techrights-news (~techrights-news@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights [09:55] *techrights-news (~techrights-news@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights [09:55] matey but with the fsf holding the umbrella, gnu will die anyway [09:55] matey but with the fsf holding the umbrella, gnu will die anyway [09:55] TR News "There is no such thing as good or bad fortune for the individual; we live in common." gopher://stevenf.com:70/0/journal/2022/05/10/seneca-letter-48.txt [09:55] TR News "There is no such thing as good or bad fortune for the individual; we live in common." gopher://stevenf.com:70/0/journal/2022/05/10/seneca-letter-48.txt [09:55] matey as the fate of the fsf is surely the same as the fate of the eff [09:55] matey as the fate of the fsf is surely the same as the fate of the eff [09:56] mjg59_ Going to say, being here helped us almost win the EFF tech trivia contest because I remembered that gopher was on port 70 [09:56] mjg59_ Going to say, being here helped us almost win the EFF tech trivia contest because I remembered that gopher was on port 70 [09:56] matey i used to know that, i ran a gopher server for a while [09:56] matey i used to know that, i ran a gopher server for a while [09:56] matey but its been many years [09:56] matey but its been many years [09:57] matey and the time that information was useful to me was brief [09:57] matey and the time that information was useful to me was brief [09:58] TR News "I think about Nietzsche almost every day. the purpose of capitalism is not even to serve the interests of the wealthy and powerful: even they still serve capital, which has its own irrational logic." gemini://alex.flounder.online/journal.gmi [09:58] TR News "I think about Nietzsche almost every day. the purpose of capitalism is not even to serve the interests of the wealthy and powerful: even they still serve capital, which has its own irrational logic." gemini://alex.flounder.online/journal.gmi [09:58] matey the fate of gnu will be an unhappy one [09:58] matey the fate of gnu will be an unhappy one [09:58] matey im in favour of salvage and forking [09:58] matey im in favour of salvage and forking [09:58] matey the problem is, few will bother [09:58] matey the problem is, few will bother [09:59] matey and for it to really be gnu, it takes more than numbers [09:59] matey and for it to really be gnu, it takes more than numbers [09:59] matey theres a quality that is more important than the quantity [09:59] matey theres a quality that is more important than the quantity [09:59] matey obviously i dont mean code quality [09:59] matey obviously i dont mean code quality [09:59] TR News Tech - Raspad - Early Speedbumps gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/users/shufei/phlog/20220501-Tech-Raspad-Speedbumps.gmi "The bug in the LXDE (?) implemented for Raspberry Pi OS continues to thwart basic touchscreen usage." [09:59] TR News Tech - Raspad - Early Speedbumps gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/users/shufei/phlog/20220501-Tech-Raspad-Speedbumps.gmi "The bug in the LXDE (?) implemented for Raspberry Pi OS continues to thwart basic touchscreen usage." [09:59] matey though its not the worst either [09:59] matey though its not the worst either ● May 11 [10:00] matey the numbers that matter are the people who are interested in killing it outweigh the ones interested in salvaging [10:00] matey the numbers that matter are the people who are interested in killing it outweigh the ones interested in salvaging [10:00] matey there are countless people eager to destroy it [10:00] matey there are countless people eager to destroy it [10:00] matey there are few (by my count rougly zero) interested in saving it [10:00] matey there are few (by my count rougly zero) interested in saving it [10:00] matey thats the math that matters [10:00] matey thats the math that matters [10:05] TR News "a computers memory map looks pretty smooth and very much byte-addressable at first glance" https://hackaday.com/2022/05/10/data-alignment-across-architectures-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/ | Source: Hackaday [10:05] TR News "a computers memory map looks pretty smooth and very much byte-addressable at first glance" https://hackaday.com/2022/05/10/data-alignment-across-architectures-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/ | Source: Hackaday [10:05] TR Bot Alignment Across Architectures: The Good, The Bad And The Ugly | Hackaday [10:05] TR Bot Alignment Across Architectures: The Good, The Bad And The Ugly | Hackaday [10:06] TR News "The WIPO SCCR is a major normative forum, shaping laws and policies that influence access to and sharing of knowledge" https://creativecommons.org/2022/05/10/creative-commons-condemns-rejection-of-wikimedia-chapters-as-observers-at-wipo-sccr/ | Source: Creative Commons http://techrights.org/wiki/WIPO [10:06] TR News "The WIPO SCCR is a major normative forum, shaping laws and policies that influence access to and sharing of knowledge" https://creativecommons.org/2022/05/10/creative-commons-condemns-rejection-of-wikimedia-chapters-as-observers-at-wipo-sccr/ | Source: Creative Commons http://techrights.org/wiki/WIPO [10:06] TR Bot Creative Commons condemns rejection of Wikimedia chapters as observers at WIPO SCCR - Creative Commons [10:06] TR Bot Creative Commons condemns rejection of Wikimedia chapters as observers at WIPO SCCR - Creative Commons [10:06] TR Bot WIPO - Techrights [10:06] TR Bot WIPO - Techrights [10:07] matey if gnu is basically stallmans tardis [10:07] matey if gnu is basically stallmans tardis [10:07] schestowitz-TR correct me if I missed something, but FSF said nothing [10:07] schestowitz-TR correct me if I missed something, but FSF said nothing [10:07] schestowitz-TR in IRC [10:07] schestowitz-TR in IRC [10:07] schestowitz-TR in twitter [10:07] schestowitz-TR in twitter [10:07] schestowitz-TR in fsf.org [10:07] schestowitz-TR in fsf.org [10:08] schestowitz-TR about the Twitetr sale [10:08] schestowitz-TR about the Twitetr sale [10:08] schestowitz-TR took them a year to point our Twitter REQUIRES proprietary software in the client side [10:08] schestowitz-TR took them a year to point our Twitter REQUIRES proprietary software in the client side [10:08] schestowitz-TR and they are STILL on there [10:08] schestowitz-TR and they are STILL on there [10:08] matey it will die with him, and if he regenerates, gnu will regenerate with him [10:08] matey it will die with him, and if he regenerates, gnu will regenerate with him [10:08] matey i realise how glib this sounds [10:08] matey i realise how glib this sounds [10:09] matey if we were take temporary refuge in a world where there were not obviously quite a few people and organisations trying to destroy stallman and his legacy [10:09] matey if we were take temporary refuge in a world where there were not obviously quite a few people and organisations trying to destroy stallman and his legacy [10:10] matey and enter a parallel universe where stallman is still mortal and the fsf still has integrity [10:10] matey and enter a parallel universe where stallman is still mortal and the fsf still has integrity [10:10] TR News MusKSA: let's buy Twitter to destabilise USA and distract from how badly people get f-ed by oligarchs and oil giants https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/10/critics-say-musk-lifting-trump-twitter-ban-would-assist-authoritarian-crusade | Source: Common Dreams [10:10] TR News MusKSA: let's buy Twitter to destabilise USA and distract from how badly people get f-ed by oligarchs and oil giants https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/10/critics-say-musk-lifting-trump-twitter-ban-would-assist-authoritarian-crusade | Source: Common Dreams [10:10] TR Bot Critics Say Musk Lifting Trump Twitter Ban Would Assist 'Authoritarian Crusade' [10:10] TR Bot Critics Say Musk Lifting Trump Twitter Ban Would Assist 'Authoritarian Crusade' [10:10] matey you would have a similar (but less complicated version of) the problem we have now [10:10] matey you would have a similar (but less complicated version of) the problem we have now [10:10] matey of how to make free software LESS mortal than stallman himself [10:10] matey of how to make free software LESS mortal than stallman himself [10:10] matey AND [10:10] matey AND [10:11] matey how to make it more flawless (but not flawless, because nothing is) [10:11] matey how to make it more flawless (but not flawless, because nothing is) [10:11] matey this problem is made far worse by the number of opportunists at the door [10:11] matey this problem is made far worse by the number of opportunists at the door [10:11] schestowitz-TR the main issues were solved in 80s and 90s [10:11] schestowitz-TR the main issues were solved in 80s and 90s [10:11] matey i doubt it [10:11] matey i doubt it [10:11] schestowitz-TR like communications and information exchange [10:11] schestowitz-TR like communications and information exchange [10:12] schestowitz-TR we've improved it for tyranny [10:12] schestowitz-TR we've improved it for tyranny [10:12] matey oh i see what you mean [10:12] matey oh i see what you mean [10:12] schestowitz-TR by changing the topology [10:12] schestowitz-TR by changing the topology [10:12] schestowitz-TR all this clown computing BS [10:12] schestowitz-TR all this clown computing BS [10:12] matey indeed [10:12] matey indeed [10:12] schestowitz-TR I mean.. [10:12] schestowitz-TR I mean.. [10:12] schestowitz-TR we could self-host already [10:12] schestowitz-TR we could self-host already [10:12] schestowitz-TR why go BACK to mainframe?? [10:12] schestowitz-TR why go BACK to mainframe?? [10:12] schestowitz-TR because[buzzwords] [10:12] schestowitz-TR because[buzzwords] [10:12] schestowitz-TR THE ENTERPRISERS [10:12] schestowitz-TR THE ENTERPRISERS [10:12] schestowitz-TR BTW, CTO of LF just died [10:12] schestowitz-TR BTW, CTO of LF just died [10:12] schestowitz-TR he was young [10:12] schestowitz-TR he was young [10:12] matey /me plays star trek theme [10:12] matey /me plays star trek theme [10:13] schestowitz-TR two kids in age (looks like) ~10 [10:13] schestowitz-TR two kids in age (looks like) ~10 [10:13] matey cause of death known? [10:13] matey cause of death known? [10:13] schestowitz-TR these CTOs are overhyped, but still sad [10:13] schestowitz-TR these CTOs are overhyped, but still sad [10:13] schestowitz-TR the first LF CTO was Ian Murdock [10:13] schestowitz-TR the first LF CTO was Ian Murdock [10:13] matey wow [10:13] matey wow [10:13] schestowitz-TR then there was Rex from SUSE among many others [10:13] schestowitz-TR then there was Rex from SUSE among many others [10:13] schestowitz-TR matey: they spare the details [10:13] schestowitz-TR matey: they spare the details [10:13] schestowitz-TR understandable [10:13] schestowitz-TR understandable [10:13] matey sure [10:13] matey sure [10:13] schestowitz-TR seems very tragic [10:13] schestowitz-TR seems very tragic [10:13] schestowitz-TR like he died in the event itself [10:13] schestowitz-TR like he died in the event itself [10:14] schestowitz-TR among colleagues [10:14] schestowitz-TR among colleagues [10:14] matey im always curious but sometimes they opt for privacy, i dont blame them [10:14] matey im always curious but sometimes they opt for privacy, i dont blame them [10:14] schestowitz-TR based on the few words they did use [10:14] schestowitz-TR based on the few words they did use [10:14] schestowitz-TR I'd not ask [10:14] schestowitz-TR I'd not ask [10:14] matey often we find out a year or more later [10:14] matey often we find out a year or more later [10:14] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:14] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:14] matey except with murdock of course [10:14] matey except with murdock of course [10:14] schestowitz-TR Murdock hang himself on the stair case with the cord of the vacuum cleaner IIRC [10:14] schestowitz-TR Murdock hang himself on the stair case with the cord of the vacuum cleaner IIRC [10:14] matey i mean im not at all satisfied with what we got about that [10:14] matey i mean im not at all satisfied with what we got about that [10:14] schestowitz-TR with his shirt off [10:14] schestowitz-TR with his shirt off [10:14] matey with two self-inflicted bullet wounds in the back of his head [10:14] matey with two self-inflicted bullet wounds in the back of his head [10:15] matey etc etc [10:15] matey etc etc [10:15] schestowitz-TR huh? [10:15] schestowitz-TR huh? [10:15] matey tropes [10:15] matey tropes [10:15] schestowitz-TR unless it's ... [10:15] schestowitz-TR unless it's ... [10:15] schestowitz-TR ah, ok [10:15] schestowitz-TR ah, ok [10:15] schestowitz-TR tropes [10:15] schestowitz-TR tropes [10:15] schestowitz-TR no, hanging [10:15] schestowitz-TR no, hanging [10:15] schestowitz-TR he was already suicidal to begin with [10:15] schestowitz-TR he was already suicidal to begin with [10:15] matey i mean its impossible to hang someone else to look like a suicide, just ask epst-- oh, you cant [10:15] matey i mean its impossible to hang someone else to look like a suicide, just ask epst-- oh, you cant [10:15] schestowitz-TR the police drove him over the edge [10:15] schestowitz-TR the police drove him over the edge [10:15] matey why was he suicidal? [10:15] matey why was he suicidal? [10:16] schestowitz-TR "well, he's dead" [10:16] schestowitz-TR "well, he's dead" [10:16] schestowitz-TR "no more questions" [10:16] schestowitz-TR "no more questions" [10:16] schestowitz-TR "let's talk about COVID now" [10:16] schestowitz-TR "let's talk about COVID now" [10:16] matey usually death creates question, it doesnt answer them [10:16] matey usually death creates question, it doesnt answer them [10:16] matey but it depends who you ask [10:16] matey but it depends who you ask [10:16] schestowitz-TR matey: sometimes who knew Debbie told me he had been suicidal before [10:16] schestowitz-TR matey: sometimes who knew Debbie told me he had been suicidal before [10:17] schestowitz-TR and that it was prevented or something [10:17] schestowitz-TR and that it was prevented or something [10:17] schestowitz-TR I don't have reasons to doubt that [10:17] schestowitz-TR I don't have reasons to doubt that [10:17] schestowitz-TR and what he tweeted does contribute to that [10:17] schestowitz-TR and what he tweeted does contribute to that [10:17] matey hmm [10:17] matey hmm [10:19] TR News "U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement is operating a digital surveillance dragnet through which the agency" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/10/study-reveals-sweeping-extent-ices-secret-surveillance-dragnet | Source: Common Dreams [10:19] TR News "U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement is operating a digital surveillance dragnet through which the agency" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/10/study-reveals-sweeping-extent-ices-secret-surveillance-dragnet | Source: Common Dreams [10:19] TR Bot Study Reveals Sweeping Extent of ICE's Secret Surveillance Dragnet [10:19] TR Bot Study Reveals Sweeping Extent of ICE's Secret Surveillance Dragnet [10:20] TR News Seattle Times also takes bribes from Famous Criminal, Bill Gates https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/05/10/heres-how-spot-wall-streets-increasingly-infuriating-greenwashing | Source: Common Dreams [10:20] TR News Seattle Times also takes bribes from Famous Criminal, Bill Gates https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/05/10/heres-how-spot-wall-streets-increasingly-infuriating-greenwashing | Source: Common Dreams [10:20] TR Bot Opinion | Here's How to Spot Wall Street's Increasingly Infuriating Greenwashing | Alec Connon [10:20] TR Bot Opinion | Here's How to Spot Wall Street's Increasingly Infuriating Greenwashing | Alec Connon [10:22] psydruid > [notice] HP brings the power of Ubuntu-based data science to Windows workstations | Ubuntu [10:22] psydruid HP lost a lot of sales last quarter, so it needs to prop up Windoze. Canonical is complicit in this effort to try to salvage a market that isn't worth salvaging. [10:22] psydruid > [notice] HP brings the power of Ubuntu-based data science to Windows workstations | Ubuntu [10:22] psydruid HP lost a lot of sales last quarter, so it needs to prop up Windoze. Canonical is complicit in this effort to try to salvage a market that isn't worth salvaging. [10:22] matey data surveillance [10:22] matey data surveillance [10:22] matey surveillance science [10:22] matey surveillance science [10:23] matey youre against science! [10:23] matey youre against science! [10:23] matey im against excess surveillance [10:23] matey im against excess surveillance [10:23] TR News "Under the blood-soaked stewardship of the Marcos regime, 70,000 warrantless arrests were made, and 4,000 people killed." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/05/10/bongbong-politics-rehabilitating-the-marcos-family/ now he's back. Junior uses dad's stolen money to buy power. [10:23] TR News "Under the blood-soaked stewardship of the Marcos regime, 70,000 warrantless arrests were made, and 4,000 people killed." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/05/10/bongbong-politics-rehabilitating-the-marcos-family/ now he's back. Junior uses dad's stolen money to buy power. [10:23] TR Bot Politics: Rehabilitating the Marcos Family - CounterPunch.org [10:23] TR Bot Politics: Rehabilitating the Marcos Family - CounterPunch.org [10:23] matey no, its science! [10:23] matey no, its science! [10:23] matey the new heathen [10:23] matey the new heathen [10:23] schestowitz-TR haha [10:23] schestowitz-TR haha [10:23] schestowitz-TR exactly [10:23] schestowitz-TR exactly [10:23] matey ceiling cat knows the terrible things you do [10:23] matey ceiling cat knows the terrible things you do [10:23] schestowitz-TR they have another term [10:23] schestowitz-TR they have another term [10:23] schestowitz-TR "big data" [10:23] schestowitz-TR "big data" [10:24] schestowitz-TR me: what data? [10:24] schestowitz-TR me: what data? [10:24] matey big data is watching you [10:24] matey big data is watching you [10:24] schestowitz-TR them: no more question [10:24] schestowitz-TR them: no more question [10:24] schestowitz-TR [them walking away] me: "but wait, is this EVEN LEGAL??" [10:24] schestowitz-TR [them walking away] me: "but wait, is this EVEN LEGAL??" [10:24] schestowitz-TR if I leave my job, I'll have some stories [10:24] schestowitz-TR if I leave my job, I'll have some stories [10:24] schestowitz-TR relating to this, too [10:24] schestowitz-TR relating to this, too [10:25] schestowitz-TR many firms holding and sharing data they cannot legally share [10:25] schestowitz-TR many firms holding and sharing data they cannot legally share [10:25] matey no one ever got fired for choosing google [10:25] matey no one ever got fired for choosing google [10:25] schestowitz-TR while using the "ISO" schtick [10:25] schestowitz-TR while using the "ISO" schtick [10:25] schestowitz-TR matey: you lose clients over it, though [10:25] schestowitz-TR matey: you lose clients over it, though [10:25] schestowitz-TR like gulag voice not working [10:25] schestowitz-TR like gulag voice not working [10:25] matey indeed [10:25] matey indeed [10:25] schestowitz-TR some idiots here tried to replace asterisk with gulag [10:25] schestowitz-TR some idiots here tried to replace asterisk with gulag [10:25] schestowitz-TR it went horribly wrong [10:25] schestowitz-TR it went horribly wrong [10:25] schestowitz-TR and they won't admit it [10:25] schestowitz-TR and they won't admit it [10:25] matey ive heard-- wait, poor choice of words [10:25] matey ive heard-- wait, poor choice of words [10:26] matey no ones heard [10:26] matey no ones heard [10:26] matey gulag voice: now with heard immunity [10:26] matey gulag voice: now with heard immunity [10:26] TR News Kakistocracy redefined: when the LEAST productive workers get paid the MOST https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/05/10/the-outrageous-gap-between-ceo-and-worker-pay/ | Source: Counter Punch [10:26] TR News Kakistocracy redefined: when the LEAST productive workers get paid the MOST https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/05/10/the-outrageous-gap-between-ceo-and-worker-pay/ | Source: Counter Punch [10:26] TR Bot Outrageous Gap Between CEO and Worker Pay - CounterPunch.org [10:26] TR Bot Outrageous Gap Between CEO and Worker Pay - CounterPunch.org [10:27] schestowitz-TR oops [10:27] schestowitz-TR oops [10:27] schestowitz-TR did we forgot to apply mute? [10:27] schestowitz-TR did we forgot to apply mute? [10:27] schestowitz-TR "lol, real sorry!" [10:27] schestowitz-TR "lol, real sorry!" [10:27] schestowitz-TR "we forgot to remove this from debug mode" [10:27] schestowitz-TR "we forgot to remove this from debug mode" [10:27] schestowitz https://news.softpedia.com/news/google-s-chromium-on-debian-is-listening-in-on-your-conversations-484914.shtml [10:27] schestowitz https://news.softpedia.com/news/google-s-chromium-on-debian-is-listening-in-on-your-conversations-484914.shtml [10:27] TR Bot Google's Chromium on Debian Is Listening In on Your Conversations [10:27] TR Bot Google's Chromium on Debian Is Listening In on Your Conversations [10:28] TR News Incel Inc. x86 ;-) https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/05/10/is-alito-an-incel/ | Source: Counter Punch [10:28] TR News Incel Inc. x86 ;-) https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/05/10/is-alito-an-incel/ | Source: Counter Punch [10:28] TR Bot Alito an Incel? - CounterPunch.org [10:28] TR Bot Alito an Incel? - CounterPunch.org [10:29] matey it wanted a pair of headphones that dont go in my ear [10:29] matey it wanted a pair of headphones that dont go in my ear [10:29] matey normally i use earbuds of course [10:29] matey normally i use earbuds of course [10:29] matey most had bluetooth [10:29] matey most had bluetooth [10:30] matey i got wired ones [10:30] matey i got wired ones [10:30] matey but they have a microphone [10:30] matey but they have a microphone [10:30] TR News "state of U.S. privacy and user security is arguably pathetic." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/10/report-most-mental-health-prayer-apps-have-abysmal-security-and-privacy-standards/ | Source: Techdirt [10:30] TR News "state of U.S. privacy and user security is arguably pathetic." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/10/report-most-mental-health-prayer-apps-have-abysmal-security-and-privacy-standards/ | Source: Techdirt [10:30] TR Bot Most Mental Health, Prayer Apps Have Abysmal Security And Privacy Standards | Techdirt [10:30] TR Bot Most Mental Health, Prayer Apps Have Abysmal Security And Privacy Standards | Techdirt [10:30] matey sadly, my laptop supports the mic connector [10:30] matey sadly, my laptop supports the mic connector [10:30] TR News CJEU https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/10/applying-artificial-intelligence-to-the-copyright-directives-stupid-idea-of-upload-filters/ | Source: Techdirt [10:30] TR News CJEU https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/10/applying-artificial-intelligence-to-the-copyright-directives-stupid-idea-of-upload-filters/ | Source: Techdirt [10:30] TR Bot (Artificial) Intelligence To The Copyright Directives Stupid Idea Of Upload Filters | Techdirt [10:30] TR Bot (Artificial) Intelligence To The Copyright Directives Stupid Idea Of Upload Filters | Techdirt [10:30] matey and its built into the plug [10:30] matey and its built into the plug [10:30] matey now i know what youre thinking, the laptop has a mic anyway [10:30] matey now i know what youre thinking, the laptop has a mic anyway [10:31] matey it doesnt though, because i removed it [10:31] matey it doesnt though, because i removed it [10:31] matey so i opened the headphones and removed the mic from those too [10:31] matey so i opened the headphones and removed the mic from those too [10:31] matey it was actually pretty easy [10:31] matey it was actually pretty easy [10:31] matey there was a separate tiny board to hold the mic [10:31] matey there was a separate tiny board to hold the mic [10:31] matey and two thin wires going to it [10:31] matey and two thin wires going to it [10:32] matey i twisted and pulled the wires off the solder connections [10:32] matey i twisted and pulled the wires off the solder connections [10:32] matey only tool used was a screwdriver [10:32] matey only tool used was a screwdriver [10:32] matey the hardest part was getting the foam covers slipped back on [10:32] matey the hardest part was getting the foam covers slipped back on [10:32] matey i knew that part would be a bitch and it was [10:32] matey i knew that part would be a bitch and it was [10:32] schestowitz LOL spamnil.. clown shortage [10:32] schestowitz LOL spamnil.. clown shortage [10:32] schestowitz https://www.tfir.io/how-companies-can-overcome-cloud-skills-shortage-rahul-pradhan-couchbas/ [10:32] schestowitz https://www.tfir.io/how-companies-can-overcome-cloud-skills-shortage-rahul-pradhan-couchbas/ [10:32] TR Bot How Companies Can Overcome Cloud Skills Shortage | Rahul Pradhan, Couchbase - TFiR - For DevOps, Developers & SREs [10:32] TR Bot How Companies Can Overcome Cloud Skills Shortage | Rahul Pradhan, Couchbase - TFiR - For DevOps, Developers & SREs [10:32] schestowitz "skills" LOLL [10:32] schestowitz "skills" LOLL [10:32] schestowitz yeah, we need more people to memorise proprioetary GUIs [10:32] schestowitz yeah, we need more people to memorise proprioetary GUIs [10:33] schestowitz and then join companies [10:33] schestowitz and then join companies [10:33] schestowitz and say [10:33] schestowitz and say [10:33] schestowitz "shit, I don't know how to manage this thing" [10:33] schestowitz "shit, I don't know how to manage this thing" [10:33] schestowitz "we need CLOWN migration" [10:33] schestowitz "we need CLOWN migration" [10:33] schestowitz "let's fork it all over to spying firms" [10:33] schestowitz "let's fork it all over to spying firms" [10:33] schestowitz "so I can use their proprietary controls" [10:33] schestowitz "so I can use their proprietary controls" [10:33] matey progress [10:33] matey progress [10:33] schestowitz back to the mainframe, folks [10:33] schestowitz back to the mainframe, folks [10:33] schestowitz we got it all wrong [10:33] schestowitz we got it all wrong [10:34] schestowitz businesses having servers is nazism [10:34] schestowitz businesses having servers is nazism [10:34] matey and sexist [10:34] matey and sexist [10:34] matey short term, its cheaper to move to the clown [10:34] matey short term, its cheaper to move to the clown [10:34] matey long term, having all your data hostage wont affect prices, it cant [10:34] matey long term, having all your data hostage wont affect prices, it cant [10:35] matey plus think of the convenience of random companies having unfettered access to all your sensitive data [10:35] matey plus think of the convenience of random companies having unfettered access to all your sensitive data [10:35] TR News Oh, shit, it looks like ubuntu loco council got cracked again. SPAM posted as articles in their front page again! Last week also: http://techrights.org/2022/05/05/ubuntu-loco-council-crack/ [10:35] matey it just makes sense to move to the clown [10:35] TR News Oh, shit, it looks like ubuntu loco council got cracked again. SPAM posted as articles in their front page again! Last week also: http://techrights.org/2022/05/05/ubuntu-loco-council-crack/ [10:35] matey it just makes sense to move to the clown [10:35] TR Bot Ubuntu LoCo Council Gone Loco or Just Cracked | Techrights [10:35] TR Bot Ubuntu LoCo Council Gone Loco or Just Cracked | Techrights [10:35] TR News 10 Things to Do After Installing Fedora 36 Workstation [With Bonus Tip] Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164713 [10:35] TR News 10 Things to Do After Installing Fedora 36 Workstation [With Bonus Tip] Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164713 [10:35] TR Bot 10 Things to Do After Installing Fedora 36 Workstation [With Bonus Tip] | Tux Machines [10:35] TR Bot 10 Things to Do After Installing Fedora 36 Workstation [With Bonus Tip] | Tux Machines [10:36] matey if youre in marketing, listen to what bill hicks said to do [10:36] matey if youre in marketing, listen to what bill hicks said to do [10:36] matey then do it [10:36] matey then do it [10:37] schestowitz-TR "kill yourself" [10:37] schestowitz-TR "kill yourself" [10:37] schestowitz-TR (he killed himself with smoking) [10:37] schestowitz-TR (he killed himself with smoking) [10:37] matey he wasnt in marketing though [10:37] matey he wasnt in marketing though [10:37] schestowitz-TR I loved his skits [10:37] schestowitz-TR I loved his skits [10:37] schestowitz-TR but he died so young [10:37] schestowitz-TR but he died so young [10:37] schestowitz-TR Carlin at least did like 4 decades [10:37] schestowitz-TR Carlin at least did like 4 decades [10:38] schestowitz-TR and each decade he dealt with different thing [10:38] schestowitz-TR and each decade he dealt with different thing [10:38] schestowitz-TR from counterculture when he was young [10:38] schestowitz-TR from counterculture when he was young [10:38] schestowitz-TR to picking on words [10:38] schestowitz-TR to picking on words [10:38] schestowitz-TR and eventually more poltiics [10:38] schestowitz-TR and eventually more poltiics [10:38] matey carlin died when he stopped being funny [10:38] matey carlin died when he stopped being funny [10:38] matey dana carvey is still with us [10:38] matey dana carvey is still with us [10:38] matey i liked garth though [10:38] matey i liked garth though [10:38] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164714 [10:38] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164714 [10:38] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [10:38] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [10:39] matey dana carvey auditioned for snl with a song that made fun of reo speedwagon. or foreigner. [10:39] matey dana carvey auditioned for snl with a song that made fun of reo speedwagon. or foreigner. [10:39] TR News "Laura Loomer still thinks she can sue her way back onto Facebook and Twitter." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/10/alt-right-journalist-whos-lost-every-lawsuit-over-banned-accounts-files-another-lawsuit-over-banned-accounts/ | Source: Techdirt [10:39] TR News "Laura Loomer still thinks she can sue her way back onto Facebook and Twitter." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/10/alt-right-journalist-whos-lost-every-lawsuit-over-banned-accounts-files-another-lawsuit-over-banned-accounts/ | Source: Techdirt [10:39] TR Bot Right Journalist Whos Lost Every Lawsuit Over Banned Accounts Files Another Lawsuit Over Banned Accounts | Techdirt [10:39] TR Bot Right Journalist Whos Lost Every Lawsuit Over Banned Accounts Files Another Lawsuit Over Banned Accounts | Techdirt [10:39] TR News "News Bargaining Code" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/10/why-are-people-blaming-facebook-for-australias-terrible-news-linking-tax-law/ | Source: Techdirt [10:39] TR News "News Bargaining Code" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/10/why-are-people-blaming-facebook-for-australias-terrible-news-linking-tax-law/ | Source: Techdirt [10:39] TR Bot Are People Still Blaming Facebook For Australias Terrible News Linking Tax Law? | Techdirt [10:39] TR Bot Are People Still Blaming Facebook For Australias Terrible News Linking Tax Law? | Techdirt [10:39] matey it was a song literally about cutting up broccoli [10:39] matey it was a song literally about cutting up broccoli [10:40] schestowitz-TR heh [10:40] schestowitz-TR heh [10:40] matey but like so many comedians, he stopped being funny when he had kids [10:40] matey but like so many comedians, he stopped being funny when he had kids [10:40] TR News "resigned sob" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/09/cops-are-being-trained-by-consultants-who-have-publicly-outed-themselves-as-bigots-and-far-right-extremists/ | Source: Techdirt [10:40] TR News "resigned sob" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/09/cops-are-being-trained-by-consultants-who-have-publicly-outed-themselves-as-bigots-and-far-right-extremists/ | Source: Techdirt [10:40] TR Bot Are Being Trained By Consultants Who Have Publicly Outed Themselves As Bigots And Far Right Extremists | Techdirt [10:40] TR Bot Are Being Trained By Consultants Who Have Publicly Outed Themselves As Bigots And Far Right Extremists | Techdirt [10:41] matey which is why if i have kids im going to teach them the worst most offensive jokes i can think of [10:41] matey which is why if i have kids im going to teach them the worst most offensive jokes i can think of [10:41] matey and not do any g or pg rated movies [10:41] matey and not do any g or pg rated movies [10:41] matey not that im a great comedian [10:41] matey not that im a great comedian [10:41] matey but its just, kids ruin comedians [10:41] matey but its just, kids ruin comedians [10:42] schestowitz-TR stories about them being beaten up [10:42] schestowitz-TR stories about them being beaten up [10:42] matey no i mean they go full disney [10:42] matey no i mean they go full disney [10:42] schestowitz-TR being funny often requires some offense [10:42] schestowitz-TR being funny often requires some offense [10:42] schestowitz-TR if you understand what causes laughter and irony [10:42] schestowitz-TR if you understand what causes laughter and irony [10:42] schestowitz-TR like jokes about putin [10:42] schestowitz-TR like jokes about putin [10:42] matey robin williams did rv i think [10:42] matey robin williams did rv i think [10:42] schestowitz-TR would they insult people who support putin? [10:42] schestowitz-TR would they insult people who support putin? [10:42] schestowitz-TR "are you insulting my politics?" [10:42] schestowitz-TR "are you insulting my politics?" [10:43] schestowitz https://yewtu.be/watch?v=BiqDZlAZygU [10:43] schestowitz https://yewtu.be/watch?v=BiqDZlAZygU [10:43] matey dana carvey did that one where he plays all these different people in disguise [10:43] matey dana carvey did that one where he plays all these different people in disguise [10:43] TR Bot In full: Rowan Atkinson on free speech - Invidious [10:43] TR Bot In full: Rowan Atkinson on free speech - Invidious [10:43] schestowitz-TR Atkinson: are you INSULT mute people??? [10:43] schestowitz-TR Atkinson: are you INSULT mute people??? [10:43] matey and dana carvey played george bush until he became sympathetic [10:43] matey and dana carvey played george bush until he became sympathetic [10:43] matey which is awful [10:43] matey which is awful [10:43] matey i mean mr bean wasnt mute, he just rarely spoke [10:43] matey i mean mr bean wasnt mute, he just rarely spoke [10:44] matey though selective mutism is a thing, so... [10:44] matey though selective mutism is a thing, so... [10:44] matey it gave him international appeal because you dont have to speak (anything) to get mr bean [10:44] matey it gave him international appeal because you dont have to speak (anything) to get mr bean [10:44] TR News (broadband=surveillance; you cannot EAT broadband, but wider broadband access enables control over YOU) "This week the Biden administration spent some time celebrating its accomplishments on broadband." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/10/team-biden-celebrates-broadband-accomplishments-yet-is-leaving-fcc-nominee-gigi-sohn-hanging-out-to-dry/ | Source: Techdirt [10:44] TR News (broadband=surveillance; you cannot EAT broadband, but wider broadband access enables control over YOU) "This week the Biden administration spent some time celebrating its accomplishments on broadband." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/10/team-biden-celebrates-broadband-accomplishments-yet-is-leaving-fcc-nominee-gigi-sohn-hanging-out-to-dry/ | Source: Techdirt [10:44] TR Bot Biden Celebrates Broadband Accomplishments, Yet Is Leaving FCC Nominee Gigi Sohn Hanging Out To Dry | Techdirt [10:44] TR Bot Biden Celebrates Broadband Accomplishments, Yet Is Leaving FCC Nominee Gigi Sohn Hanging Out To Dry | Techdirt [10:45] matey of course now he champions free speech [10:45] matey of course now he champions free speech [10:45] TR News MusKSA will turn Twitter to dust very fast. If you are STILL posting in Twitter, you are a FOOL. https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/10/what-free-speech-elon-musk-endorses-eus-highly-censorial-approach-to-content-moderation-which-twitter-has-spent-years-fighting/ | Source: Techdirt [10:45] TR News MusKSA will turn Twitter to dust very fast. If you are STILL posting in Twitter, you are a FOOL. https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/10/what-free-speech-elon-musk-endorses-eus-highly-censorial-approach-to-content-moderation-which-twitter-has-spent-years-fighting/ | Source: Techdirt [10:45] TR Bot Free Speech? Elon Musk Endorses EUs Highly Censorial Approach To Content Moderation; Which Twitter Has Spent Years Fighting | Techdirt [10:45] TR Bot Free Speech? Elon Musk Endorses EUs Highly Censorial Approach To Content Moderation; Which Twitter Has Spent Years Fighting | Techdirt [10:45] matey because he knows british law is a real threat to comedy [10:45] matey because he knows british law is a real threat to comedy [10:45] matey and cleese left britain i suppose [10:45] matey and cleese left britain i suppose [10:45] schestowitz-TR singapore [10:45] schestowitz-TR singapore [10:45] schestowitz-TR like many others [10:45] schestowitz-TR like many others [10:46] schestowitz-TR singapore is even worse [10:46] schestowitz-TR singapore is even worse [10:46] schestowitz-TR maybe they just wanted a funny place [10:46] schestowitz-TR maybe they just wanted a funny place [10:46] matey fsvo worse [10:46] matey fsvo worse [10:46] schestowitz-TR where the former british colonists are treated with special respect [10:46] schestowitz-TR where the former british colonists are treated with special respect [10:46] schestowitz-TR *sunny [10:46] schestowitz-TR *sunny [10:46] schestowitz-TR not funny [10:46] schestowitz-TR not funny [10:46] matey im only a fan of their coffee [10:46] matey im only a fan of their coffee [10:46] schestowitz-TR funny also [10:46] schestowitz-TR funny also [10:46] schestowitz-TR but don't get TOO FUNNY in Singapore [10:46] schestowitz-TR but don't get TOO FUNNY in Singapore [10:46] matey actually [10:46] matey actually [10:46] schestowitz-TR the British-inherited Death Penalty might catch up with you [10:46] schestowitz-TR the British-inherited Death Penalty might catch up with you [10:47] matey despite the fact that singapore kills people for various offenses like drug smuggling [10:47] matey despite the fact that singapore kills people for various offenses like drug smuggling [10:47] schestowitz-TR in singapore people barely get humour [10:47] schestowitz-TR in singapore people barely get humour [10:47] matey comedians there are not very pc, nor do they have to be [10:47] matey comedians there are not very pc, nor do they have to be [10:47] schestowitz-TR the ones I saw are obedient workers, with rather dry personality [10:47] schestowitz-TR the ones I saw are obedient workers, with rather dry personality [10:47] schestowitz-TR singapore has trh tourism area [10:47] schestowitz-TR singapore has trh tourism area [10:47] matey you didnt know where to look [10:47] matey you didnt know where to look [10:47] schestowitz-TR like some arab countries [10:47] schestowitz-TR like some arab countries [10:47] schestowitz-TR to maintain the facade of internationalist [10:47] schestowitz-TR to maintain the facade of internationalist [10:48] schestowitz-TR investments, banking, casinos [10:48] schestowitz-TR investments, banking, casinos [10:48] matey im no fan of singapore [10:48] matey im no fan of singapore [10:48] matey just the coffee [10:48] matey just the coffee [10:48] matey actually wait [10:48] matey actually wait [10:48] schestowitz-TR probably very expensive [10:48] schestowitz-TR probably very expensive [10:48] matey lol [10:48] matey lol [10:48] schestowitz-TR we could not find where to eat [10:48] schestowitz-TR we could not find where to eat [10:48] matey not even the coffee [10:48] matey not even the coffee [10:48] schestowitz-TR it's always expensive [10:48] schestowitz-TR it's always expensive [10:48] schestowitz-TR no matter where [10:48] schestowitz-TR no matter where [10:48] matey the best coffee in the world comes from vietnam [10:48] matey the best coffee in the world comes from vietnam [10:48] schestowitz-TR maybe Little India was a little cheaper... just a little [10:48] schestowitz-TR maybe Little India was a little cheaper... just a little [10:49] schestowitz-TR matey: Coffee fertilised by Dow Chemicals [10:49] schestowitz-TR matey: Coffee fertilised by Dow Chemicals [10:49] schestowitz-TR and Monsanto [10:49] schestowitz-TR and Monsanto [10:49] matey like most [10:49] matey like most [10:49] schestowitz-TR "fertilised" [10:49] schestowitz-TR "fertilised" [10:49] schestowitz-TR same process that makes bombs [10:49] schestowitz-TR same process that makes bombs [10:49] schestowitz-TR like nukes for energy and for bombs [10:49] schestowitz-TR like nukes for energy and for bombs [10:49] schestowitz-TR you just adjust the parameters a little [10:49] schestowitz-TR you just adjust the parameters a little [10:49] matey its a breath mint, its a candy mint [10:49] matey its a breath mint, its a candy mint [10:49] matey its chemical fertiliser, its a munition [10:49] matey its chemical fertiliser, its a munition [10:50] TR News "weird antitrust lore" https://pluralistic.net/2022/05/09/rest-in-piss-robert-bork/#harmful-dominance | Source: CoryDoctorow [10:50] TR News "weird antitrust lore" https://pluralistic.net/2022/05/09/rest-in-piss-robert-bork/#harmful-dominance | Source: CoryDoctorow [10:50] TR Bot Pluralistic: 09 May 2022 Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow [10:50] TR Bot Pluralistic: 09 May 2022 Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow [10:50] TR News Digital Restrictions (DRM) https://doctorow.medium.com/about-those-kill-switched-ukrainian-tractors-bc93f471b9c8 | [10:50] TR News Digital Restrictions (DRM) https://doctorow.medium.com/about-those-kill-switched-ukrainian-tractors-bc93f471b9c8 | [10:50] TR Bot About those kill-switched Ukrainian tractors | by Cory Doctorow | May, 2022 | Medium [10:50] TR Bot About those kill-switched Ukrainian tractors | by Cory Doctorow | May, 2022 | Medium [10:50] matey roundup the usual suspects [10:50] matey roundup the usual suspects [10:50] TR News "As has been the case recently, the Activity Report is hereby combined with my Contract Report." https://www.haiku-os.org/blog/waddlesplash/2022-05-09_haiku_activity_contract_report_april_2022/ | Source: HaikuOS [10:50] TR News "As has been the case recently, the Activity Report is hereby combined with my Contract Report." https://www.haiku-os.org/blog/waddlesplash/2022-05-09_haiku_activity_contract_report_april_2022/ | Source: HaikuOS [10:50] TR Bot Haiku Activity & Contract Report: April 2022 | Haiku Project [10:50] TR Bot Haiku Activity & Contract Report: April 2022 | Haiku Project [10:51] TR News "One major problem is that the AppArmor profiles used to "restrict" snaps make specific assumptions" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/SnapsVersusNFSHomedirs | Source: uni Toronto [10:51] TR News "One major problem is that the AppArmor profiles used to "restrict" snaps make specific assumptions" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/SnapsVersusNFSHomedirs | Source: uni Toronto [10:51] TR Bot Chris's Wiki :: blog/linux/SnapsVersusNFSHomedirs [10:51] TR Bot Chris's Wiki :: blog/linux/SnapsVersusNFSHomedirs [10:51] TR News "While replacing a Dell running Windows with a Lenovo running Linux sounds tempting for Chinese companies" https://www.tomshardware.com/news/china-orders-government-state-companies-to-scrap-foreign-pcs | Source: Tom's Hardware [10:51] TR News "While replacing a Dell running Windows with a Lenovo running Linux sounds tempting for Chinese companies" https://www.tomshardware.com/news/china-orders-government-state-companies-to-scrap-foreign-pcs | Source: Tom's Hardware [10:51] TR Bot China's Government, State-Backed Firms to Scrap Foreign PCs Within Two Years | Tom's Hardware [10:51] TR Bot China's Government, State-Backed Firms to Scrap Foreign PCs Within Two Years | Tom's Hardware [10:55] TR News "Heres a few links that have been solidifying this idea in my head as of late" https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/the-web-beyond-browsers/ | Source: Jim Nielsen [10:55] TR News "Heres a few links that have been solidifying this idea in my head as of late" https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/the-web-beyond-browsers/ | Source: Jim Nielsen [10:55] TR Bot The Web Beyond Browsers - Jim Nielsens Blog [10:55] TR Bot The Web Beyond Browsers - Jim Nielsens Blog [10:55] TR News "I know I'm painting a pretty bleak picture, but the reality is that the old web isn't lost." https://flower.codes/2022/05/08/rediscovering-discovery.html | Source: Zach Flower [10:55] TR News "I know I'm painting a pretty bleak picture, but the reality is that the old web isn't lost." https://flower.codes/2022/05/08/rediscovering-discovery.html | Source: Zach Flower [10:55] TR Bot Discovery on the Web | flower.codes [10:55] TR Bot Discovery on the Web | flower.codes ● May 11 [11:00] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@th6czuhh2gauq.irc) has joined #techrights [11:00] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@th6czuhh2gauq.irc) has joined #techrights [11:01] matey heh [11:01] matey heh [11:02] DaemonFC being funny often requires some offense [11:02] DaemonFC being funny often requires some offense [11:02] matey the amstrad 464 had the power supply in the monitor [11:02] matey the amstrad 464 had the power supply in the monitor [11:02] matey so you needed two cables from (/to) the monitor but you only needed one going to the wall [11:02] matey so you needed two cables from (/to) the monitor but you only needed one going to the wall [11:02] DaemonFC Because some of the humor involves taking idiots who want to be wrong with authority and ruining their day and getting them angry at you, and giving zero fucks. [11:02] DaemonFC Because some of the humor involves taking idiots who want to be wrong with authority and ruining their day and getting them angry at you, and giving zero fucks. [11:03] DaemonFC The hallmark of a guy who has lost his argument is that they should just be free of any criticism and that's the end of that. [11:03] DaemonFC The hallmark of a guy who has lost his argument is that they should just be free of any criticism and that's the end of that. [11:03] matey josh simmons [11:03] matey josh simmons [11:03] DaemonFC Like Clarence Thomas saying that disagreeing with the "court" means you are "bullying" him. [11:03] DaemonFC Like Clarence Thomas saying that disagreeing with the "court" means you are "bullying" him. [11:04] matey hiding behind the robe [11:04] matey hiding behind the robe [11:04] DaemonFC He uses the word "bullying" as if someone was in his high school beating him up, taking his lunch money and giving him a swirly in the boy's room toilet on the way out. [11:04] DaemonFC He uses the word "bullying" as if someone was in his high school beating him up, taking his lunch money and giving him a swirly in the boy's room toilet on the way out. [11:05] DaemonFC The guy is part of a 9 judge dictatorship that does whatever it wants to and hides behind fences and cops while they get free healthcare and a six figure salary (not counting the bribes). [11:05] DaemonFC The guy is part of a 9 judge dictatorship that does whatever it wants to and hides behind fences and cops while they get free healthcare and a six figure salary (not counting the bribes). [11:05] TR News "Game of Trees is a version control system which prioritizes ease of use and simplicity over flexibility." https://ports.macports.org/port/got/details/ | [11:05] TR News "Game of Trees is a version control system which prioritizes ease of use and simplicity over flexibility." https://ports.macports.org/port/got/details/ | [11:05] TR Bot got | MacPorts [11:05] TR Bot got | MacPorts [11:05] DaemonFC That's how the government works, and people think it's some sacred process established by Jesus Christ personally. [11:05] DaemonFC That's how the government works, and people think it's some sacred process established by Jesus Christ personally. [11:05] matey scotus and potus are more of a 10 person dictatorship timeshare [11:05] matey scotus and potus are more of a 10 person dictatorship timeshare [11:06] DaemonFC They take the government seriously, and that's their first offense. [11:06] DaemonFC They take the government seriously, and that's their first offense. [11:06] matey but its a puppet government installed by the corporations anyway [11:06] matey but its a puppet government installed by the corporations anyway [11:06] matey with 10 puppets [11:06] matey with 10 puppets [11:06] DaemonFC The only way anyone should take the government seriously is that it can hurt you and it won't feel bad about doing that. [11:06] DaemonFC The only way anyone should take the government seriously is that it can hurt you and it won't feel bad about doing that. [11:07] DaemonFC That's "respect" in the same way as "respecting" that a Mexican drug lord can give your family Colombian neck ties if you piss him off. [11:07] DaemonFC That's "respect" in the same way as "respecting" that a Mexican drug lord can give your family Colombian neck ties if you piss him off. [11:07] TR News "Ive been intrigued by the concept of using computers to generate audio for a long time." https://zach.se/generate-audio-with-python/ | [11:07] TR News "Ive been intrigued by the concept of using computers to generate audio for a long time." https://zach.se/generate-audio-with-python/ | [11:07] TR Bot Generate Audio with Python - Zach Denton [11:07] TR Bot Generate Audio with Python - Zach Denton [11:07] matey "thats the rules that i just made up, and im backing it up with this gun that i got from the national rifle association"-- eddie izzard [11:07] matey "thats the rules that i just made up, and im backing it up with this gun that i got from the national rifle association"-- eddie izzard [11:07] DaemonFC There's nothing wrong with gun ownership. [11:07] DaemonFC There's nothing wrong with gun ownership. [11:08] matey i agree [11:08] matey i agree [11:08] matey but hes entitled to have some fun with gun culture [11:08] matey but hes entitled to have some fun with gun culture [11:08] TR News "The declaration was signed on the 8th of December 2020 by all EU Member States" https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/interoperable-europe/news/first-report-berlin-declaration-out | Source: Joinup [11:08] TR News "The declaration was signed on the 8th of December 2020 by all EU Member States" https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/interoperable-europe/news/first-report-berlin-declaration-out | Source: Joinup [11:08] TR Bot The first report on the Berlin Declaration is out | Joinup [11:08] TR Bot The first report on the Berlin Declaration is out | Joinup [11:08] matey he was really making fun of colonialism [11:08] matey he was really making fun of colonialism [11:08] DaemonFC Everyone who isn't an inmate, a convicted felon, certifiably insane, or a sex criminal, should be required by law to have at least one, as well as training. [11:08] DaemonFC Everyone who isn't an inmate, a convicted felon, certifiably insane, or a sex criminal, should be required by law to have at least one, as well as training. [11:08] matey the nra was a deliberate anachronism [11:08] matey the nra was a deliberate anachronism [11:09] DaemonFC Illinois says you can't get a FOID card if you're one of those things, and that must surely explain why Chicago is happening. [11:09] DaemonFC Illinois says you can't get a FOID card if you're one of those things, and that must surely explain why Chicago is happening. [11:10] DaemonFC We have laws, criminals break laws, Dumbfuckcrat Communist Party hopes people aren't smart enough to realize that the crime happens because we're not executing or imprisoning those people, proposes replacing the cops with a social worker. [11:10] DaemonFC We have laws, criminals break laws, Dumbfuckcrat Communist Party hopes people aren't smart enough to realize that the crime happens because we're not executing or imprisoning those people, proposes replacing the cops with a social worker. [11:11] matey thats not why crime happens [11:11] matey thats not why crime happens [11:11] DaemonFC That IS why there is so much crime. [11:11] DaemonFC That IS why there is so much crime. [11:11] matey no it isnt [11:11] matey no it isnt [11:11] DaemonFC Hang 'em or put 'em in prison so long they forget their own name, and a lot of that goes away. [11:11] DaemonFC Hang 'em or put 'em in prison so long they forget their own name, and a lot of that goes away. [11:12] matey well, no [11:12] matey well, no [11:12] DaemonFC Well, actually, yeah. [11:12] DaemonFC Well, actually, yeah. [11:12] matey what theyre doing is nothing, and thats a problem [11:12] matey what theyre doing is nothing, and thats a problem [11:12] matey they do need to actually do something [11:12] matey they do need to actually do something [11:12] DaemonFC If it bothers people, then they should have behaved themselves. [11:12] DaemonFC If it bothers people, then they should have behaved themselves. [11:12] matey its not that [11:12] matey its not that [11:13] DaemonFC I'm not calling for, like, the Philippines where you spend 5 years in prison waiting for your trial, however that goes, if you ever get one. [11:13] DaemonFC I'm not calling for, like, the Philippines where you spend 5 years in prison waiting for your trial, however that goes, if you ever get one. [11:13] DaemonFC I'm not calling for summary execution by the police, like the Philippines has. [11:13] DaemonFC I'm not calling for summary execution by the police, like the Philippines has. [11:13] DaemonFC I'm saying arrest the bad guys and when you prove that they did whatever they did, give them what they have coming to them. [11:13] DaemonFC I'm saying arrest the bad guys and when you prove that they did whatever they did, give them what they have coming to them. [11:14] matey A 2017 DPIC analysis found that abolishing the death penalty had no measurable effect on murder rates in general or the rate at which police officers are killed, contradicting popular arguments that the death penalty is necessary for public safety and to protect law enforcement officials. [11:14] matey A 2017 DPIC analysis found that abolishing the death penalty had no measurable effect on murder rates in general or the rate at which police officers are killed, contradicting popular arguments that the death penalty is necessary for public safety and to protect law enforcement officials. [11:14] matey there are lower murder rates in places without the death penalty [11:14] matey there are lower murder rates in places without the death penalty [11:14] matey and as they abolish it, murder rates tend to go down [11:14] matey and as they abolish it, murder rates tend to go down [11:14] matey the problem with chicago isnt the lack of death penalty [11:14] matey the problem with chicago isnt the lack of death penalty [11:15] matey i mean thats the fact of it [11:15] matey i mean thats the fact of it [11:15] matey letting murderers roam from and doing nothing, thats a problem [11:15] matey letting murderers roam from and doing nothing, thats a problem [11:15] matey roam free [11:15] matey roam free [11:15] matey i mean if you do nothing to solve a problem, then the problem increases, who do you have to blame [11:15] matey i mean if you do nothing to solve a problem, then the problem increases, who do you have to blame [11:16] DaemonFC There's less margarine consumption per capita in states with less divorce. [11:16] DaemonFC There's less margarine consumption per capita in states with less divorce. [11:16] matey but if you think any solution is a good one, that explains why people still use windows [11:16] matey but if you think any solution is a good one, that explains why people still use windows [11:17] matey There's less margarine consumption per capita in states with less divorce. <- dont be silly, you stated a casual relationship then when data doesnt support it you pull out post hoc? [11:17] matey There's less margarine consumption per capita in states with less divorce. <- dont be silly, you stated a casual relationship then when data doesnt support it you pull out post hoc? [11:17] DaemonFC Have you considered that the death penalty exists because those states are dealing with a crime problem and the public wants something done about it. And that the death penalty isn't effective because they get to appeal it well past when their guilt has been proven. [11:17] DaemonFC Have you considered that the death penalty exists because those states are dealing with a crime problem and the public wants something done about it. And that the death penalty isn't effective because they get to appeal it well past when their guilt has been proven. [11:17] matey Have you considered that the death penalty exists because those states are dealing with a crime problem and the public wants something done about it. <- yes, that was covered too. [11:17] matey Have you considered that the death penalty exists because those states are dealing with a crime problem and the public wants something done about it. <- yes, that was covered too. [11:17] DaemonFC Well, you can determine that if we ban margarine, then nobody will get a divorce. [11:17] DaemonFC Well, you can determine that if we ban margarine, then nobody will get a divorce. [11:17] DaemonFC You'd be wrong, but if you prattle off statistics, that would be the way to solve a huge problem. [11:17] DaemonFC You'd be wrong, but if you prattle off statistics, that would be the way to solve a huge problem. [11:17] matey this isnt intellectually honest [11:17] matey this isnt intellectually honest [11:18] matey the death penalty is going down all over the world [11:18] matey the death penalty is going down all over the world [11:18] matey the murder rate should be increasing [11:18] matey the murder rate should be increasing [11:18] matey it isnt [11:18] matey it isnt [11:18] DaemonFC If you look at how stupid the average criminal is....right.... [11:18] DaemonFC If you look at how stupid the average criminal is....right.... [11:18] DaemonFC I mean, they try to punch a cop and run away and they think they'll get away. [11:18] DaemonFC I mean, they try to punch a cop and run away and they think they'll get away. [11:19] matey the criminal justice system is just like windows [11:19] matey the criminal justice system is just like windows [11:19] matey if it works properly, thats a bug, its not by design [11:19] matey if it works properly, thats a bug, its not by design [11:19] matey if it doesnt work properly, thats also a bug, and its by design [11:19] matey if it doesnt work properly, thats also a bug, and its by design [11:19] matey doing nothing isnt a solution [11:19] matey doing nothing isnt a solution [11:19] matey but neither is keeping whats broken and refusing to fix it [11:19] matey but neither is keeping whats broken and refusing to fix it [11:19] matey at best, the criminal justice system is windows xp. [11:19] matey at best, the criminal justice system is windows xp. [11:19] DaemonFC My mom's ex husband's son punched a cop. [11:19] DaemonFC My mom's ex husband's son punched a cop. [11:20] DaemonFC From jail, he said..."It's okay, dad, I did some drywall for him so I think I'll be okay.". [11:20] DaemonFC From jail, he said..."It's okay, dad, I did some drywall for him so I think I'll be okay.". [11:21] DaemonFC The whole cause/effect relationship doesn't exist in the mind of a habitual offender. [11:21] DaemonFC The whole cause/effect relationship doesn't exist in the mind of a habitual offender. [11:22] matey why would it [11:22] matey why would it [11:22] matey if youve been in the system youve seen that rules dont apply to anyone [11:22] matey if youve been in the system youve seen that rules dont apply to anyone [11:22] matey and the higher up you get, the less they apply [11:22] matey and the higher up you get, the less they apply [11:22] DaemonFC This is the same guy who, when mom found out his tooth was hurting, gave her dentist appointment to him offered to pay to get it filled because she felt bad for him, and he skipped the appointment and kept sticking tylenol pills in the hole in his tooth. [11:22] DaemonFC This is the same guy who, when mom found out his tooth was hurting, gave her dentist appointment to him offered to pay to get it filled because she felt bad for him, and he skipped the appointment and kept sticking tylenol pills in the hole in his tooth. [11:23] matey why didnt he go [11:23] matey why didnt he go [11:23] DaemonFC "It don't hurt....much..." Another tylenol. [11:23] DaemonFC "It don't hurt....much..." Another tylenol. [11:24] TR News "I believe that by feeding this unsustainable industry, for instance, replacing our laptops, cell phones" https://afhub.dev/2022/05/09/technology-is-evolving-too-fast/ | Source: Andre Franca [11:24] TR News "I believe that by feeding this unsustainable industry, for instance, replacing our laptops, cell phones" https://afhub.dev/2022/05/09/technology-is-evolving-too-fast/ | Source: Andre Franca [11:24] TR Bot Technology is evolving too fast [11:24] TR Bot Technology is evolving too fast [11:24] TR News [Old] "When I called IBM, the company declined to dispute or acknowledge Rolanders version" https://www.mercurynews.com/2008/12/18/cassidy-theres-more-to-the-story-of-software-pioneer-kildall/ | Source: Mercury News [11:24] TR News [Old] "When I called IBM, the company declined to dispute or acknowledge Rolanders version" https://www.mercurynews.com/2008/12/18/cassidy-theres-more-to-the-story-of-software-pioneer-kildall/ | Source: Mercury News [11:24] TR Bot Cassidy: Theres more to the story of software pioneer Kildall The Mercury News [11:24] TR Bot Cassidy: Theres more to the story of software pioneer Kildall The Mercury News [11:24] TR News "Remember when using The Internet was a chore? You had to wait for hours before the one family computer was free" https://flower.codes/2022/05/07/offline-first.html | Source: Zach Flower [11:24] TR News "Remember when using The Internet was a chore? You had to wait for hours before the one family computer was free" https://flower.codes/2022/05/07/offline-first.html | Source: Zach Flower [11:24] TR Bot Offline-First Technology | flower.codes [11:24] TR Bot Offline-First Technology | flower.codes [11:25] DaemonFC Stallman compared shedding COVID masks to not brushing your teeth and accepting that you'd lose most of them in a few years. [11:25] DaemonFC Stallman compared shedding COVID masks to not brushing your teeth and accepting that you'd lose most of them in a few years. [11:25] DaemonFC But people who are missing their teeth because they didn't brush aren't operating on that level, obviously. [11:25] DaemonFC But people who are missing their teeth because they didn't brush aren't operating on that level, obviously. [11:25] DaemonFC They're too dumb to sit down and say "If I do this, that will be the consequence, eventually.". [11:25] DaemonFC They're too dumb to sit down and say "If I do this, that will be the consequence, eventually.". [11:26] matey denial goes beyond mere ignorance [11:26] matey denial goes beyond mere ignorance [11:26] matey in the same way that rebar goes beyond just concrete [11:26] matey in the same way that rebar goes beyond just concrete [11:26] DaemonFC It's the same mentality with habitual criminals and most people who go deeply into debt who weren't buying food so they wouldn't starve. I'm talking max out the credit cards going to Star Wars land at Disney then go "Who knew the bill would come?". [11:26] DaemonFC It's the same mentality with habitual criminals and most people who go deeply into debt who weren't buying food so they wouldn't starve. I'm talking max out the credit cards going to Star Wars land at Disney then go "Who knew the bill would come?". [11:28] matey people learn [11:28] matey people learn [11:28] DaemonFC I mean, criminals aren't looking at law books and don't think anything will happen to them, so the punishment, whatever it is, loses some of its preventive effect. [11:28] DaemonFC I mean, criminals aren't looking at law books and don't think anything will happen to them, so the punishment, whatever it is, loses some of its preventive effect. [11:28] matey if you give them a world thats fucked up and broken [11:28] matey if you give them a world thats fucked up and broken [11:28] matey theyre either going to find a way to fix it, or theyll possibly become fucked up and broken [11:28] matey theyre either going to find a way to fix it, or theyll possibly become fucked up and broken [11:28] DaemonFC The preventive effect of harsh justice and allowing people to defend themselves with the use of deadly force is that there will be less folks around doing it over and over again. [11:28] DaemonFC The preventive effect of harsh justice and allowing people to defend themselves with the use of deadly force is that there will be less folks around doing it over and over again. [11:28] matey but dont expect them to follow the rules if they can see the rules are a liar [11:28] matey but dont expect them to follow the rules if they can see the rules are a liar [11:28] matey lie [11:28] matey lie [11:28] DaemonFC And then overall crime falls because the people doing it aren't there anymore. [11:28] DaemonFC And then overall crime falls because the people doing it aren't there anymore. [11:29] matey The preventive effect of harsh justice and allowing people to defend themselves with the use of deadly force is that there will be less folks around doing it over and over again. <- you notice that im more in favour of an armed citizenry than the death penalty [11:29] matey The preventive effect of harsh justice and allowing people to defend themselves with the use of deadly force is that there will be less folks around doing it over and over again. <- you notice that im more in favour of an armed citizenry than the death penalty [11:29] DaemonFC You get rid of 30-40% of the criminals somehow, crime falls. It's inevitable. [11:29] DaemonFC You get rid of 30-40% of the criminals somehow, crime falls. It's inevitable. [11:30] DaemonFC To say nothing of the fact that the sooner they get what's coming to them, the less women they impregnate and the less broken homes and bad genes go on to create another crop. [11:30] DaemonFC To say nothing of the fact that the sooner they get what's coming to them, the less women they impregnate and the less broken homes and bad genes go on to create another crop. [11:30] matey You get rid of 30-40% of the criminals somehow, crime falls. It's inevitable. <- you could just kill everyone, then there would be no crime [11:30] matey You get rid of 30-40% of the criminals somehow, crime falls. It's inevitable. <- you could just kill everyone, then there would be no crime [11:30] matey but its a bit like amputating a limb when antibiotics are effective [11:30] matey but its a bit like amputating a limb when antibiotics are effective [11:30] DaemonFC Criminality is partly genetics, and it's partly environmental. It has a lot of causes. [11:30] DaemonFC Criminality is partly genetics, and it's partly environmental. It has a lot of causes. [11:31] TR News "Although most users appear to use TikTok in a non-problematic manner" https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/tiktok-addiction-symptoms-study-users-b2072116.html | Source: The Independent UK [11:31] TR News "Although most users appear to use TikTok in a non-problematic manner" https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/tiktok-addiction-symptoms-study-users-b2072116.html | Source: The Independent UK [11:31] TR Bot New study identifies TikTok addiction and the symptoms that show when users have it | The Independent [11:31] TR Bot New study identifies TikTok addiction and the symptoms that show when users have it | The Independent [11:31] matey your take on it cuts enough corners to be made in the most backwater parts of china [11:31] matey your take on it cuts enough corners to be made in the most backwater parts of china [11:31] TR News "The TikTok algorithm is set up to track viewing habits" https://www.deseret.com/2022/5/6/23055481/tik-tok-addiction-social-media-mental-health-psychology | Source: Deseret News [11:31] TR News "The TikTok algorithm is set up to track viewing habits" https://www.deseret.com/2022/5/6/23055481/tik-tok-addiction-social-media-mental-health-psychology | Source: Deseret News [11:31] TR Bot are the signs of a TikTok addiction? - Deseret News [11:31] TR Bot are the signs of a TikTok addiction? - Deseret News [11:31] DaemonFC Just like drug abuse. You take a person with an impulse control disorder, and he never even meets his children because they go to a family that adopts them. [11:31] DaemonFC Just like drug abuse. You take a person with an impulse control disorder, and he never even meets his children because they go to a family that adopts them. [11:31] TR News "It also suggests that the most definitive signs of addiction are that the user become nervous" https://www.psypost.org/2022/05/new-study-identifies-the-most-definitive-signs-of-tiktok-addiction-63071 | [11:31] TR News "It also suggests that the most definitive signs of addiction are that the user become nervous" https://www.psypost.org/2022/05/new-study-identifies-the-most-definitive-signs-of-tiktok-addiction-63071 | [11:31] TR Bot New study identifies the most definitive signs of "TikTok addiction" [11:31] TR Bot New study identifies the most definitive signs of "TikTok addiction" [11:32] matey until you understand the problem, youre nearly certain to come up with a pisspoor solution [11:32] matey until you understand the problem, youre nearly certain to come up with a pisspoor solution [11:32] DaemonFC A higher percentage of them than normal will end up with some sort of impulse control disorder even though they never met their parents. [11:32] DaemonFC A higher percentage of them than normal will end up with some sort of impulse control disorder even though they never met their parents. [11:32] DaemonFC Why? There's a genetic component to it. [11:32] DaemonFC Why? There's a genetic component to it. [11:32] matey thats retarded [11:32] matey thats retarded [11:32] DaemonFC There's definitely some truth to "criminal genes". [11:32] DaemonFC There's definitely some truth to "criminal genes". [11:32] DaemonFC Everyone knows a family like my mom's ex husband's. [11:32] DaemonFC Everyone knows a family like my mom's ex husband's. [11:33] DaemonFC Where it's like "Fuck. Everyone who is even SLIGHTLY related to that guy has been in trouble with the law over and over again.". [11:33] DaemonFC Where it's like "Fuck. Everyone who is even SLIGHTLY related to that guy has been in trouble with the law over and over again.". [11:33] matey neglect lends itself to personality disorders [11:33] matey neglect lends itself to personality disorders [11:33] DaemonFC Like even cousins, nephews, etc. [11:33] DaemonFC Like even cousins, nephews, etc. [11:33] matey you dont have to meet your parents to get fucked up by them [11:33] matey you dont have to meet your parents to get fucked up by them [11:33] matey you dont have to meet your parents to be neglected [11:33] matey you dont have to meet your parents to be neglected [11:34] matey so why the fuck would that prove a genetic link? [11:34] matey so why the fuck would that prove a genetic link? [11:34] TR News ""Apple announced Tuesday that it's discontinuing the iPod Touch https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/apple/apple-ends-production-iconic-ipod-rcna28190 | Source: NBC [11:34] TR News ""Apple announced Tuesday that it's discontinuing the iPod Touch https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/apple/apple-ends-production-iconic-ipod-rcna28190 | Source: NBC [11:34] TR Bot Apple ends production of its iconic iPod [11:34] TR Bot Apple ends production of its iconic iPod [11:34] matey keep going and youll prove lumiferous aether too [11:34] matey keep going and youll prove lumiferous aether too [11:34] TR News "The iPod Touch going away marks the end of an era." https://www.theverge.com/2022/5/10/23065412/apple-ipod-touch-canceled-discontinued | Source: The Verge [11:34] TR News "The iPod Touch going away marks the end of an era." https://www.theverge.com/2022/5/10/23065412/apple-ipod-touch-canceled-discontinued | Source: The Verge [11:34] TR Bot Apple says the iPod Touch is available while supplies last - The Verge [11:34] TR Bot Apple says the iPod Touch is available while supplies last - The Verge [11:34] matey luminiferous [11:34] matey luminiferous [11:34] DaemonFC Bad genes are like a curse. Not everyone gets cancer. Some people inherit personality flaws that lead to criminal behavior and serious mental disorders. [11:34] DaemonFC Bad genes are like a curse. Not everyone gets cancer. Some people inherit personality flaws that lead to criminal behavior and serious mental disorders. [11:35] matey well, science isnt on your side with this [11:35] matey well, science isnt on your side with this [11:35] DaemonFC It's a a lotto ticket. Some people get all the good genes in the family while their brother got all the bad ones and not a lot else. [11:35] DaemonFC It's a a lotto ticket. Some people get all the good genes in the family while their brother got all the bad ones and not a lot else. [11:35] matey but have fun progressing from casual racism to eugenics. [11:35] matey but have fun progressing from casual racism to eugenics. [11:35] DaemonFC Take Bill Clinton for example. [11:35] DaemonFC Take Bill Clinton for example. [11:35] matey ive got better shit to do dr mengele [11:35] matey ive got better shit to do dr mengele [11:36] *matey has quit (connection closed) [11:36] *matey has quit (connection closed) [11:36] DaemonFC Successful two-term president Bill Clinton. Sky high approval rating, even now. [11:36] DaemonFC Successful two-term president Bill Clinton. Sky high approval rating, even now. [11:36] DaemonFC Then there's his brother Roger, who has a two mile long criminal record including possession of crack. [11:36] DaemonFC Then there's his brother Roger, who has a two mile long criminal record including possession of crack. [11:37] TR News Windows TCO: "The number of Russian cyber-operations has doubled every month since December, when 15 were reported." https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2022/05/10/russia-seems-to-be-co-ordinating-cyber-attacks-with-its-military-campaign | Source: The Economist [11:37] TR News Windows TCO: "The number of Russian cyber-operations has doubled every month since December, when 15 were reported." https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2022/05/10/russia-seems-to-be-co-ordinating-cyber-attacks-with-its-military-campaign | Source: The Economist [11:37] TR Bot seems to be co-ordinating cyber-attacks with its military campaign | The Economist [11:37] TR Bot seems to be co-ordinating cyber-attacks with its military campaign | The Economist [11:37] TR News Windows TCO https://itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis-sp-481/open-sauce/no-kidding,-microsoft-now-charges-firms-to-tackle-windows-ransomware.html | Source: IT Wire [11:37] TR News Windows TCO https://itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis-sp-481/open-sauce/no-kidding,-microsoft-now-charges-firms-to-tackle-windows-ransomware.html | Source: IT Wire [11:37] TR Bot - No kidding, Microsoft now charges firms to tackle Windows ransomware [11:37] TR Bot - No kidding, Microsoft now charges firms to tackle Windows ransomware [11:38] TR News Windows TCO: "sharing publicly its assessment that Russia launched cyber attacks in late February against commercial satellite communications networks to disrupt Ukrainian command and control during the invasion, and those actions had spillover impacts into other European countries." https://www.state.gov/attribution-of-russias-malicious-cyber-activity-against-ukraine/ | Source: USDept Of State [11:38] TR News Windows TCO: "sharing publicly its assessment that Russia launched cyber attacks in late February against commercial satellite communications networks to disrupt Ukrainian command and control during the invasion, and those actions had spillover impacts into other European countries." https://www.state.gov/attribution-of-russias-malicious-cyber-activity-against-ukraine/ | Source: USDept Of State [11:38] TR Bot Attribution of Russias Malicious Cyber Activity Against Ukraine - United States Department of State [11:38] TR Bot Attribution of Russias Malicious Cyber Activity Against Ukraine - United States Department of State [11:38] TR News Windows TCO https://riskybiznews.substack.com/p/risky-biz-news-costa-rica-declares | [11:38] TR News Windows TCO https://riskybiznews.substack.com/p/risky-biz-news-costa-rica-declares | [11:38] TR Bot Risky Biz News: Costa Rica declares national emergency after ransomware attack [11:38] TR Bot Risky Biz News: Costa Rica declares national emergency after ransomware attack [11:39] TR News Windows TCO https://therecord.media/costa-ricas-new-president-declares-state-of-emergency-after-conti-ransomware-attack/ | Source: The Record [11:39] TR News Windows TCO https://therecord.media/costa-ricas-new-president-declares-state-of-emergency-after-conti-ransomware-attack/ | Source: The Record [11:39] TR Bot Costa Ricas new president declares state of emergency after Conti ransomware attack - The Record by Recorded Future [11:39] TR Bot Costa Ricas new president declares state of emergency after Conti ransomware attack - The Record by Recorded Future [11:39] TR News Windows TCO https://www.theverge.com/2022/5/9/23064321/costa-rica-conti-ransomware-attack-state-of-emergency-reward | Source: The Verge [11:39] TR News Windows TCO https://www.theverge.com/2022/5/9/23064321/costa-rica-conti-ransomware-attack-state-of-emergency-reward | Source: The Verge [11:39] TR Bot US State Department announces $10 million bounty after Costa Rica ransomware attack - The Verge [11:39] TR Bot US State Department announces $10 million bounty after Costa Rica ransomware attack - The Verge [11:40] TR News THANK MICROSOFT! Windows TCO https://www.cyberscoop.com/conti-costa-rica-ransomware-peru-unc1756/ | Source: Scoop News Group [11:40] TR News THANK MICROSOFT! Windows TCO https://www.cyberscoop.com/conti-costa-rica-ransomware-peru-unc1756/ | Source: Scoop News Group [11:40] TR Bot Rican president begins tenure with ransomware national emergency declaration - CyberScoop [11:40] TR Bot Rican president begins tenure with ransomware national emergency declaration - CyberScoop [11:41] TR News [Old] "After its direct listing shares skyrocketed to nearly $40, and have now returned to sub-$12" https://seekingalpha.com/article/4487929-palantir-the-great-reset | Source: Seeking Alpha [11:41] TR News [Old] "After its direct listing shares skyrocketed to nearly $40, and have now returned to sub-$12" https://seekingalpha.com/article/4487929-palantir-the-great-reset | Source: Seeking Alpha [11:41] TR Bot Palantir Stock: The Great Reset (NYSE:PLTR) | Seeking Alpha [11:41] TR Bot Palantir Stock: The Great Reset (NYSE:PLTR) | Seeking Alpha [11:41] TR News "Without decisive regulations on what data should be considered private" https://staceyoniot.com/we-need-laws-and-regulations-on-data-use-and-privacy/ | Source: Stacy on IoT [11:41] TR News "Without decisive regulations on what data should be considered private" https://staceyoniot.com/we-need-laws-and-regulations-on-data-use-and-privacy/ | Source: Stacy on IoT [11:41] TR Bot We need laws and regulations on data use and privacy - 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Biden Is Giving Them Huge Federal Contracts Anyway. [12:21] TR Bot Amazon Is Busting Unions. Biden Is Giving Them Huge Federal Contracts Anyway. [12:26] DaemonFC PayPal cuts off payments to a lot of outfits. [12:26] DaemonFC PayPal cuts off payments to a lot of outfits. [12:26] DaemonFC If I get money in my PayPal account, I never leave it there for long. [12:26] DaemonFC If I get money in my PayPal account, I never leave it there for long. [12:27] DaemonFC When Elon Musk was there, they pretty much just stole money out of people's accounts and figured they wouldn't get sued as long as it never amounted to much from any one user. [12:27] DaemonFC When Elon Musk was there, they pretty much just stole money out of people's accounts and figured they wouldn't get sued as long as it never amounted to much from any one user. [12:35] DaemonFC Back to the Future II didn't do a great job with 2015. [12:35] DaemonFC Back to the Future II didn't do a great job with 2015. [12:35] DaemonFC We didn't get flying cars, just a lot more potholes. [12:35] DaemonFC We didn't get flying cars, just a lot more potholes. [12:35] DaemonFC Doc hands him $50 for a Pepsi. That's 2022. [12:35] DaemonFC Doc hands him $50 for a Pepsi. That's 2022. [12:46] schestowitz-TR :-) [12:46] schestowitz-TR :-) [12:48] DaemonFC Okay, I got a kick out of the Reagan Max Headroom thing. [12:48] DaemonFC Okay, I got a kick out of the Reagan Max Headroom thing. [12:51] *bnchs (~bnchs@dscg2hhyna2ta.irc) has joined #techrights [12:51] *bnchs (~bnchs@dscg2hhyna2ta.irc) has joined #techrights [12:57] TR News Good News! Docker Desktop is Now Here for Linux Users Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164717 [12:57] TR Bot Good News! Docker Desktop is Now Here for Linux Users | Tux Machines [12:57] TR News Good News! Docker Desktop is Now Here for Linux Users Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164717 [12:57] TR Bot Good News! 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[13:45] MinceR http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/beware-children.jpg ( https://www.engrish.com/2021/03/may-not-be-old-enough-for-prison-but-still-dangerous/ ) [13:45] MinceR http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/beware-children.jpg ( https://www.engrish.com/2021/03/may-not-be-old-enough-for-prison-but-still-dangerous/ ) [13:45] TR Bot May not be old enough for prison but still dangerous [13:45] TR Bot May not be old enough for prison but still dangerous ● May 11 [14:11] *bnchs has quit (connection closed) [14:11] *bnchs has quit (connection closed) [14:16] MinceR (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONNRBmvNps0 [14:16] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ONNRBmvNps0 [14:16] MinceR (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONNRBmvNps0 [14:16] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ONNRBmvNps0 [14:16] TR Bot yewtu.be | Jimmy O. Yang Teaches Us Tai Chi - Invidious [14:16] TR Bot yewtu.be | Jimmy O. Yang Teaches Us Tai Chi - Invidious [14:19] *darwin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [14:19] *darwin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [14:22] TR News Proprietary Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164718 [14:22] TR News Proprietary Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164718 [14:22] TR Bot Proprietary Leftovers | Tux Machines [14:22] TR Bot Proprietary Leftovers | Tux Machines [14:23] TR News Web Browsers and Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164719 [14:23] TR News Web Browsers and Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164719 [14:23] TR Bot Web Browsers and Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [14:23] TR Bot Web Browsers and Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [14:23] TR News RISC-V and Raspberry Pi Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164720 [14:23] TR News RISC-V and Raspberry Pi Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164720 [14:23] TR Bot RISC-V and Raspberry Pi | Tux Machines [14:23] TR Bot RISC-V and Raspberry Pi | Tux Machines [14:23] TR News Games: Steam Deck, Transport Fever 2, VITURE One XR, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164721 [14:23] TR News Games: Steam Deck, Transport Fever 2, VITURE One XR, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164721 [14:23] TR Bot Games: Steam Deck, Transport Fever 2, VITURE One XR, and More | Tux Machines [14:23] TR Bot Games: Steam Deck, Transport Fever 2, VITURE One XR, and More | Tux Machines [14:24] TR News Modren and Snaps Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164722 [14:24] TR News Modren and Snaps Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164722 [14:24] TR Bot Modren and Snaps | Tux Machines [14:24] TR Bot Modren and Snaps | Tux Machines [14:24] TR News Graphics: AMD, Intel, and Mesa 22.1.0 RC5 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164723 [14:24] TR News Graphics: AMD, Intel, and Mesa 22.1.0 RC5 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164723 [14:24] TR Bot Graphics: AMD, Intel, and Mesa 22.1.0 RC5 | Tux Machines [14:24] TR Bot Graphics: AMD, Intel, and Mesa 22.1.0 RC5 | Tux Machines [14:25] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164724 [14:25] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164724 [14:25] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [14:25] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [14:27] TR News Springfield isn't the most popular city name in the US gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/05/10.1 [14:27] TR News Springfield isn't the most popular city name in the US gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/05/10.1 [14:28] TR News In praise of git-request-pull gemini://alex.flounder.online/gemlog/2022-05-11.gmi [14:28] TR News In praise of git-request-pull gemini://alex.flounder.online/gemlog/2022-05-11.gmi [14:29] TR News "I'm just about to merge the dev branch of Antenna into production. I'm hoping there won't be any downtime because I'll do it in two steps and it's only CGI scripts (no app server! Yay!)." gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-05-11-upgrading-antenna-today.gmi [14:29] TR News "I'm just about to merge the dev branch of Antenna into production. I'm hoping there won't be any downtime because I'll do it in two steps and it's only CGI scripts (no app server! Yay!)." gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-05-11-upgrading-antenna-today.gmi [14:30] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [14:30] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [14:32] TR News "PC tech standards are constantly changing. What can we expect from the next generation of computer hardware?" gemini://galaxyhub.uk/articles/next-gen-pc.gmi [14:32] TR News "PC tech standards are constantly changing. What can we expect from the next generation of computer hardware?" gemini://galaxyhub.uk/articles/next-gen-pc.gmi [14:35] TR News Links 11/05/2022: Update for elementary OS 7 and IPFire 2.27 Core Update 16 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/11/ipfire-2-27-core-update-16/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/11/ipfire-2-27-core-update-16/ [14:35] TR News Links 11/05/2022: Update for elementary OS 7 and IPFire 2.27 Core Update 16 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/11/ipfire-2-27-core-update-16/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/11/ipfire-2-27-core-update-16/ [14:35] TR Bot Links 11/05/2022: Update for elementary OS 7 and IPFire 2.27 Core Update 16 | Techrights [14:35] TR Bot Links 11/05/2022: Update for elementary OS 7 and IPFire 2.27 Core Update 16 | Techrights [14:45] MinceR (cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/05/09/gavin-the-grrey-tabby-cat-on-plane/ [14:45] MinceR (cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/05/09/gavin-the-grrey-tabby-cat-on-plane/ [14:45] TR Bot Gavin The Talkative Grey Tabby Cat Joins His Human On A Flight A Twitter Thread [14:45] TR Bot Gavin The Talkative Grey Tabby Cat Joins His Human On A Flight A Twitter Thread [14:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 21.06 k/sec., IPFS upstream 34.36 average k/sec., average swarm size 348.15 [14:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 21.06 k/sec., IPFS upstream 34.36 average k/sec., average swarm size 348.15 ● May 11 [15:00] *techrights_guest|44 (~434c410d@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [15:00] *techrights_guest|44 (~434c410d@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [15:06] techrights_guest|44 Please help me activate my home the tech that was suppose to foot didn't and here I sit with a phone that I paid for and wasn't even the phone I thought I was paying for but even more there's no service can some one here help me? [15:06] techrights_guest|44 Please help me activate my home the tech that was suppose to foot didn't and here I sit with a phone that I paid for and wasn't even the phone I thought I was paying for but even more there's no service can some one here help me? [15:06] MinceR what [15:06] MinceR what [15:12] *techrights_guest|44 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [15:12] *techrights_guest|44 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [15:25] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/22050558 [15:25] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/22050558 [15:25] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/0x6c3qorcax81.jpg created on 2022-05-05 22:47:20.433590 [15:25] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/0x6c3qorcax81.jpg created on 2022-05-05 22:47:20.433590 [15:36] schestowitz-TR maybe weak english, MinceR [15:36] schestowitz-TR maybe weak english, MinceR [15:36] MinceR too weak for me to understand [15:36] MinceR too weak for me to understand [15:36] schestowitz-TR yeah [15:36] schestowitz-TR yeah [15:36] schestowitz-TR incomprehensible almost [15:36] schestowitz-TR incomprehensible almost [15:48] XRevan86 I'm not even going to try to guess. [15:48] XRevan86 I'm not even going to try to guess. [15:53] DaemonFC I think the third Back to the Future is the best, but it made a big gaffe with the DeLorean. [15:53] DaemonFC I think the third Back to the Future is the best, but it made a big gaffe with the DeLorean. [15:54] DaemonFC No car that's been sitting for 70 years would work again with just "a new set of tires". [15:54] DaemonFC No car that's been sitting for 70 years would work again with just "a new set of tires". [15:54] DaemonFC But I thought it was funny that they put the DeLorean on whitewall tires. [15:54] DaemonFC But I thought it was funny that they put the DeLorean on whitewall tires. [15:55] MinceR :> [15:55] MinceR :> [15:57] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/22050432 [15:57] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/22050432 [15:57] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/l7rqboluu2x81.jpg created on 2022-05-04 09:32:44.644046 [15:57] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/l7rqboluu2x81.jpg created on 2022-05-04 09:32:44.644046 [15:57] TR News 5 surprising things I do with Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164725 [15:57] TR News 5 surprising things I do with Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164725 [15:57] TR Bot 5 surprising things I do with Linux | Tux Machines [15:57] TR Bot 5 surprising things I do with Linux | Tux Machines [15:57] TR News Kubuntu 22.04 Jammy Jellyfish review - Okay, not LTS-y enough Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164726 [15:57] TR News Kubuntu 22.04 Jammy Jellyfish review - Okay, not LTS-y enough Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164726 [15:57] TR Bot Kubuntu 22.04 Jammy Jellyfish review - Okay, not LTS-y enough | Tux Machines [15:57] TR Bot Kubuntu 22.04 Jammy Jellyfish review - Okay, not LTS-y enough | Tux Machines [15:57] TR News Peergos: An Open-Source Google Drive Alternative Cloud Storage Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164727 [15:57] TR News Peergos: An Open-Source Google Drive Alternative Cloud Storage Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164727 [15:58] TR Bot Peergos: An Open-Source Google Drive Alternative Cloud Storage | Tux Machines [15:58] TR Bot Peergos: An Open-Source Google Drive Alternative Cloud Storage | Tux Machines [15:58] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164728 [15:58] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164728 [15:58] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [15:58] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [15:58] DaemonFC MinceR, Whitewalls might look okay on my Buick, but they cost a lot of money now. [15:58] DaemonFC MinceR, Whitewalls might look okay on my Buick, but they cost a lot of money now. [15:58] DaemonFC Not much demand for them. Nobody drives anything classy anymore. [15:58] DaemonFC Not much demand for them. Nobody drives anything classy anymore. [15:59] DaemonFC So the market is mostly for classic cars. [15:59] DaemonFC So the market is mostly for classic cars. [15:59] DaemonFC This country has gone full on "cheap shit made in Mexico" or China. [15:59] DaemonFC This country has gone full on "cheap shit made in Mexico" or China. [15:59] DaemonFC Even the cars. [15:59] DaemonFC Even the cars. ● May 11 [16:01] DaemonFC The funnier part than the DeLorean on whitewalls is Dr. Brown buying Marty a very flamboyant looking 1950s retro-futuristic cowboy costume to wear in 1885. [16:01] DaemonFC The funnier part than the DeLorean on whitewalls is Dr. Brown buying Marty a very flamboyant looking 1950s retro-futuristic cowboy costume to wear in 1885. [16:02] DaemonFC MinceR, Of course, they may have gotten time travel wrong. Marty McFly should have been safe in the past even though he was a relic from a deleted timeline, until he repaired it. [16:02] DaemonFC MinceR, Of course, they may have gotten time travel wrong. Marty McFly should have been safe in the past even though he was a relic from a deleted timeline, until he repaired it. [16:02] DaemonFC If he is a non-event in the 1955 timeline, then he can't change the past, thus his parents get together like they were meant to, and he exists again. [16:02] DaemonFC If he is a non-event in the 1955 timeline, then he can't change the past, thus his parents get together like they were meant to, and he exists again. [16:02] MinceR time travel in movies usually doesn't make sense [16:02] MinceR time travel in movies usually doesn't make sense [16:03] DaemonFC Since this creates a paradox where both can't be true, it would be easier to just say that he's created an alternate universe in which he is matter that is an event in the spacetime of that universe from the point that he emerged from the primary universe. [16:03] DaemonFC Since this creates a paradox where both can't be true, it would be easier to just say that he's created an alternate universe in which he is matter that is an event in the spacetime of that universe from the point that he emerged from the primary universe. [16:03] DaemonFC Thus, it doesn't matter if he's ever born or not because he'll still exist in the alternate 1955. [16:03] DaemonFC Thus, it doesn't matter if he's ever born or not because he'll still exist in the alternate 1955. [16:05] DaemonFC Worse yet, that means that the Hellish 1985 where Biff screwed up the timeline still exists, otherwise he could not have emerged from it. Which means that alternate 1985 Biff is still there beating and raping his mother, even though Marty no longer exists there. [16:05] DaemonFC Worse yet, that means that the Hellish 1985 where Biff screwed up the timeline still exists, otherwise he could not have emerged from it. Which means that alternate 1985 Biff is still there beating and raping his mother, even though Marty no longer exists there. [16:06] TR News IBM had the audacity to write this while laying off some of its most talented people (and most valuable in the world) because they became "expensive" https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/5/it-hiring-cybersecurity-skills-shortage [16:06] TR News IBM had the audacity to write this while laying off some of its most talented people (and most valuable in the world) because they became "expensive" https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/5/it-hiring-cybersecurity-skills-shortage [16:06] TR Bot IT hiring: Tackling the cybersecurity skills shortage | The Enterprisers Project [16:06] TR Bot IT hiring: Tackling the cybersecurity skills shortage | The Enterprisers Project [16:07] TR News Miseading, false headline https://www.maketecheasier.com/facebook-not-keeping-location-history/ [16:07] TR News Miseading, false headline https://www.maketecheasier.com/facebook-not-keeping-location-history/ [16:07] TR Bot Facebook Will No Longer Keep Track of Your Location History - Make Tech Easier [16:07] TR Bot Facebook Will No Longer Keep Track of Your Location History - Make Tech Easier [16:07] TR News ICBM gives virtual badge (like NFT) in exchange for slavery https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/lets-have-a-party-fedora-36 [16:07] TR News ICBM gives virtual badge (like NFT) in exchange for slavery https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/lets-have-a-party-fedora-36 [16:07] TR Bot Fedora Badges [16:07] TR Bot Fedora Badges [16:07] DaemonFC The only part of the timeline that would be canonical to all future timelines would be 1955, up until the point that the original Marty emerged from the primary 1985. Even then, the third movie screws that up because they change things again in 1885. So there are now alternate 1955s leading to alternate 1985s and alternate 2015s. [16:07] DaemonFC The only part of the timeline that would be canonical to all future timelines would be 1955, up until the point that the original Marty emerged from the primary 1985. Even then, the third movie screws that up because they change things again in 1885. So there are now alternate 1955s leading to alternate 1985s and alternate 2015s. [16:08] DaemonFC So Doc Brown is correct in the second movie that 1955 is a nexus that has cosmic significance, until it doesn't anymore, and the nexus point moves to 1885 in the third movie. [16:08] DaemonFC So Doc Brown is correct in the second movie that 1955 is a nexus that has cosmic significance, until it doesn't anymore, and the nexus point moves to 1885 in the third movie. [16:08] TR News ICBM promotes outsourcing (clown computing) instead of server ownership and control https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/5/cloud-strategy-cios-cloud-providers [16:08] TR News ICBM promotes outsourcing (clown computing) instead of server ownership and control https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/5/cloud-strategy-cios-cloud-providers [16:08] TR Bot Cloud strategy: What CIOs really want from cloud providers | The Enterprisers Project [16:08] TR Bot Cloud strategy: What CIOs really want from cloud providers | The Enterprisers Project [16:09] DaemonFC There are now at least 4 variants of 1985. [16:09] DaemonFC There are now at least 4 variants of 1985. [16:10] TR News Red Hat Enterprise Linux 9 Announced as the Next-Gen Backbone of Enterprise IT http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164693#comment-33616 [16:10] TR News Red Hat Enterprise Linux 9 Announced as the Next-Gen Backbone of Enterprise IT http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164693#comment-33616 [16:10] TR Bot Red Hat: OpenShift, Keynotes, and RHEL 9 Released | Tux Machines [16:10] TR Bot Red Hat: OpenShift, Keynotes, and RHEL 9 Released | Tux Machines [16:10] DaemonFC And the third movie ignores completely that Doc Brown in 1955 learning about everything that would happen in the future would inevitably change his decisions leading up to the accident that sent him to 1885 in the first place, thus negating the need to unbury the DeLorean and go back to 1885. [16:10] DaemonFC And the third movie ignores completely that Doc Brown in 1955 learning about everything that would happen in the future would inevitably change his decisions leading up to the accident that sent him to 1885 in the first place, thus negating the need to unbury the DeLorean and go back to 1885. [16:10] DaemonFC MinceR, Time travel does not make sense. No. [16:10] DaemonFC MinceR, Time travel does not make sense. No. [16:11] DaemonFC It may or may not be possible, but even if anyone ever figures it out, it will be too dangerous to consider using. [16:11] DaemonFC It may or may not be possible, but even if anyone ever figures it out, it will be too dangerous to consider using. [16:11] MinceR it can be made sensible, but that would probably not be good for drama [16:11] MinceR it can be made sensible, but that would probably not be good for drama [16:11] TR News Spamnil is openwashing for IBM. A lot of the Web is nowadays webspam. https://www.tfir.io/call-for-proposals-open-for-open-mainframe-summit-philadelphia-donna-hudi/ [16:11] TR News Spamnil is openwashing for IBM. A lot of the Web is nowadays webspam. https://www.tfir.io/call-for-proposals-open-for-open-mainframe-summit-philadelphia-donna-hudi/ [16:11] TR Bot Call For Proposals Open For Open Mainframe Summit, Philadelphia | Donna Hudi - TFiR - For DevOps, Developers & SREs [16:11] TR Bot Call For Proposals Open For Open Mainframe Summit, Philadelphia | Donna Hudi - TFiR - For DevOps, Developers & SREs [16:11] MinceR just start a new alternate universe for every time travel event [16:11] MinceR just start a new alternate universe for every time travel event [16:11] DaemonFC That's what Future Man does. [16:11] DaemonFC That's what Future Man does. [16:11] TR News "We dont need to talk about NFTs but on a serious note I think Blockchain is overhyped." https://www.idgconnect.com/article/3659889/cto-sessions-victor-palau-ebury.html [16:11] TR News "We dont need to talk about NFTs but on a serious note I think Blockchain is overhyped." https://www.idgconnect.com/article/3659889/cto-sessions-victor-palau-ebury.html [16:11] TR Bot CTO Sessions: Victor Palau, Ebury | IDG Connect [16:11] TR Bot CTO Sessions: Victor Palau, Ebury | IDG Connect [16:12] DaemonFC Fudderman accidentally creates thousands of tangent universes including one where Osama bin Laden gets his time machine. [16:12] DaemonFC Fudderman accidentally creates thousands of tangent universes including one where Osama bin Laden gets his time machine. [16:12] MinceR :) [16:12] MinceR :) [16:13] TR News ICBM expanding proprietary software alliance https://newsroom.ibm.com/2022-05-11-IBM-Transforms-Business-Operations-with-the-RISE-with-SAP-Solution-in-Expanded-Partnership-with-SAP [16:13] TR News ICBM expanding proprietary software alliance https://newsroom.ibm.com/2022-05-11-IBM-Transforms-Business-Operations-with-the-RISE-with-SAP-Solution-in-Expanded-Partnership-with-SAP [16:13] TR Bot IBM Transforms Business Operations with the RISE with SAP Solution in Expanded Partnership with SAP [16:13] TR Bot IBM Transforms Business Operations with the RISE with SAP Solution in Expanded Partnership with SAP [16:13] DaemonFC He then gets punished on a reality TV show by a man named Susan for doing all of this. [16:13] DaemonFC He then gets punished on a reality TV show by a man named Susan for doing all of this. [16:13] DaemonFC And then Osama bin Laden rescues him from Susan. [16:13] DaemonFC And then Osama bin Laden rescues him from Susan. [16:15] TR News Fedora 36 Woos Developers With Desktop Overhaul, but Will It Please Linus? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164681#comment-33617 [16:15] TR News Fedora 36 Woos Developers With Desktop Overhaul, but Will It Please Linus? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164681#comment-33617 [16:15] TR Bot Fedora Linux 36 Is Here with GNOME 42, Linux Kernel 5.17, and Wayland for NVIDIA Users | Tux Machines [16:15] TR Bot Fedora Linux 36 Is Here with GNOME 42, Linux Kernel 5.17, and Wayland for NVIDIA Users | Tux Machines [16:15] MinceR "a very bad Susan indeed." [16:15] MinceR "a very bad Susan indeed." [16:17] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:17] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:20] DaemonFC MinceR, I was driving around in the Buick last week and saw a guy hauling a boat into the gas station. [16:20] DaemonFC MinceR, I was driving around in the Buick last week and saw a guy hauling a boat into the gas station. [16:20] DaemonFC So I shouted "THERE IT IS!!!! THAT'S MY BOAT!". [16:20] DaemonFC So I shouted "THERE IT IS!!!! THAT'S MY BOAT!". [16:21] DaemonFC (GTA V....Michael) [16:21] DaemonFC (GTA V....Michael) [16:21] DaemonFC I randomly quote him and Trevor Philips while I'm driving. [16:21] DaemonFC I randomly quote him and Trevor Philips while I'm driving. [16:21] DaemonFC "THIS IS A FINE AUTOMOBILE!" [16:21] DaemonFC "THIS IS A FINE AUTOMOBILE!" [16:22] DaemonFC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ubQWiIfGNc [16:22] TR Bot https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=4ubQWiIfGNc [16:22] DaemonFC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ubQWiIfGNc [16:22] TR Bot https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=4ubQWiIfGNc [16:23] TR Bot invidious.snopyta.org | GTA 5 - The Best of Trevor - Invidious [16:23] TR Bot invidious.snopyta.org | GTA 5 - The Best of Trevor - Invidious [16:23] DaemonFC There is no best of Trevor. Everything is the best of Trevor. [16:23] DaemonFC There is no best of Trevor. Everything is the best of Trevor. [16:24] MinceR everyone loves Magical Trevor because the tricks that he does are ever so clever. [16:24] MinceR everyone loves Magical Trevor because the tricks that he does are ever so clever. [16:25] TR News 10 iPod Competitors That Didnt Make It https://tedium.co/2022/05/11/ipod-failed-competitors-history/ "Some say it was overdue, some lament that it remains a missed opportunity, but the truth of the matter is, the iPod has left us, after years of neglect." [16:25] TR News 10 iPod Competitors That Didnt Make It https://tedium.co/2022/05/11/ipod-failed-competitors-history/ "Some say it was overdue, some lament that it remains a missed opportunity, but the truth of the matter is, the iPod has left us, after years of neglect." [16:25] TR Bot 10 iPod Competitors That Didnt Make It [16:25] TR Bot 10 iPod Competitors That Didnt Make It [16:26] TR News Top new features in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.6 https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/top-new-features-red-hat-enterprise-linux-86 [16:26] TR News Top new features in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.6 https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/top-new-features-red-hat-enterprise-linux-86 [16:26] TR Bot Top new features in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.6 [16:26] TR Bot Top new features in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.6 [16:28] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/22050328 [16:28] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/22050328 [16:28] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/2a5qz99hvhw81.jpg created on 2022-05-03 08:13:11.185002 [16:28] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/2a5qz99hvhw81.jpg created on 2022-05-03 08:13:11.185002 [16:29] TR News Steam snap now available for Linux gamers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164287#comment-33618 Source: betanews [16:29] TR News Steam snap now available for Linux gamers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164287#comment-33618 Source: betanews [16:29] TR Bot Steam is Now on the Snap Store And You Can Help Test It | Tux Machines [16:29] TR Bot Steam is Now on the Snap Store And You Can Help Test It | Tux Machines [16:29] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [16:29] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [16:30] TR News Rocky Linux developer CIQ raises $26M to recreate CentOS for enterprises | VentureBeat https://venturebeat.com/2022/05/11/rocky-linux-developer-ciq-raises-26m-to-recreate-centos-for-enterprises/ Source: venturebeat [16:30] TR News Rocky Linux developer CIQ raises $26M to recreate CentOS for enterprises | VentureBeat https://venturebeat.com/2022/05/11/rocky-linux-developer-ciq-raises-26m-to-recreate-centos-for-enterprises/ Source: venturebeat [16:30] TR Bot Linux developer CIQ raises $26M to recreate CentOS for enterprises | VentureBeat [16:30] TR Bot Linux developer CIQ raises $26M to recreate CentOS for enterprises | VentureBeat [16:30] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights [16:30] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights [16:34] TR News $26 Million for Gregory Kurtzer to Make Another CentOS Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164729 [16:34] TR News $26 Million for Gregory Kurtzer to Make Another CentOS Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164729 [16:34] TR Bot $26 Million for Gregory Kurtzer to Make 'Another' CentOS | Tux Machines [16:34] TR Bot $26 Million for Gregory Kurtzer to Make 'Another' CentOS | Tux Machines [16:35] TR News "Qt 5.15.4 release is a patch release made on the top of Qt 5.15.3. As a patch release, Qt 5.15.4 does not add any new functionality but provides bug fixes and other improvements." https://code.qt.io/cgit/qt/qtreleasenotes.git/about/qt/5.15.4/release-note.md Qt as Free software [16:35] TR News "Qt 5.15.4 release is a patch release made on the top of Qt 5.15.3. As a patch release, Qt 5.15.4 does not add any new functionality but provides bug fixes and other improvements." https://code.qt.io/cgit/qt/qtreleasenotes.git/about/qt/5.15.4/release-note.md Qt as Free software [16:35] TR Bot qt/qtreleasenotes.git - Unnamed repository; edit this file 'description' to name the repository. [16:35] TR Bot qt/qtreleasenotes.git - Unnamed repository; edit this file 'description' to name the repository. [16:35] TR News IBM/Red Hat Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164730 [16:35] TR News IBM/Red Hat Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164730 [16:35] TR Bot IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines [16:35] TR Bot IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines [16:36] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164731 [16:36] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164731 [16:36] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [16:36] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [16:38] TR News Debian 9 soon out of (free) security support https://raphaelhertzog.com/2022/05/11/debian-9-soon-out-of-free-security-support/ [16:38] TR News Debian 9 soon out of (free) security support https://raphaelhertzog.com/2022/05/11/debian-9-soon-out-of-free-security-support/ [16:38] TR Bot Debian 9 soon out of (free) security support [16:38] TR Bot Debian 9 soon out of (free) security support [16:39] XRevan86 Apparently the weather actually was bad. Oh well. [16:39] XRevan86 Apparently the weather actually was bad. Oh well. [16:40] activelow hitting 30C beginning of may.. in germany [16:40] activelow hitting 30C beginning of may.. in germany [16:41] activelow this is close to a 10C temperature anomaly; not 1.5C or similar the propaganda witches agitate for on TV [16:41] activelow this is close to a 10C temperature anomaly; not 1.5C or similar the propaganda witches agitate for on TV [16:42] activelow they imply, 1.5C anomaly weren't hit yet... when instead we are at 10C heatup already [16:42] activelow they imply, 1.5C anomaly weren't hit yet... when instead we are at 10C heatup already [16:42] activelow furthermore, it isn't a long-term effect, if economy cools down temperatures drop almost instantly (during corona) [16:42] activelow furthermore, it isn't a long-term effect, if economy cools down temperatures drop almost instantly (during corona) [16:43] activelow and since the "lockdown" ended, temperatures skyrocket again [16:43] activelow and since the "lockdown" ended, temperatures skyrocket again [16:43] activelow 10C above normal, not 1.5C [16:43] activelow 10C above normal, not 1.5C [16:43] activelow can't tell you, how much i hate them, those pseudo eco activists and their lies [16:43] activelow can't tell you, how much i hate them, those pseudo eco activists and their lies [16:43] activelow another lie of theirs is the implied argument, it was supposedly "germany" at fault [16:43] activelow another lie of theirs is the implied argument, it was supposedly "germany" at fault [16:44] activelow because, UN and similar institutions seek to re-distribute cash [16:44] activelow because, UN and similar institutions seek to re-distribute cash [16:45] activelow tied to carbon emission budgets, yet those budgets are not intended to cope with "climate change", it is both a cash grabbing taxation scam and redistribution-mechanism [16:45] activelow tied to carbon emission budgets, yet those budgets are not intended to cope with "climate change", it is both a cash grabbing taxation scam and redistribution-mechanism [16:46] activelow and within germany, it is mostly "west germany" and their demographics, which, whatever this is, isn't what i would recognize as german [16:46] activelow and within germany, it is mostly "west germany" and their demographics, which, whatever this is, isn't what i would recognize as german [16:46] activelow and it is them, the west, who cause 90% of emissions [16:46] activelow and it is them, the west, who cause 90% of emissions [16:47] activelow because east-germany already dismantled most of their industry after 1990, except for what could be looted and plundered by KPMG trust fund [16:47] activelow because east-germany already dismantled most of their industry after 1990, except for what could be looted and plundered by KPMG trust fund [16:49] activelow anyway, +10C temperature anomaly; [16:49] activelow anyway, +10C temperature anomaly; [16:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 21.06 k/sec., IPFS upstream 18.50 average k/sec., average swarm size 381.76 [16:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 21.06 k/sec., IPFS upstream 18.50 average k/sec., average swarm size 381.76 ● May 11 [17:05] *bnchs (~bnchs@dscg2hhyna2ta.irc) has joined #techrights [17:05] *bnchs (~bnchs@dscg2hhyna2ta.irc) has joined #techrights [17:11] *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #techrights [17:11] *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #techrights [17:11] *psymin (~psymin@user/psymin) has joined #techrights [17:24] MinceR (cat) https://imgur.com/t/cats/uXLwPGj [17:24] MinceR (cat) https://imgur.com/t/cats/uXLwPGj [17:24] TR Bot cat - Album on Imgur [17:24] TR Bot cat - Album on Imgur [17:39] *CrystalMath (~coderain@4qw6f75x3xw6a.irc) has joined #techrights [17:39] *CrystalMath (~coderain@4qw6f75x3xw6a.irc) has joined #techrights [17:49] TR News As long as they use software with NSA back doors (like Windows), they will never be safe https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/05/11/cisa-joins-partners-release-advisory-protecting-msps-and-their [17:49] TR News As long as they use software with NSA back doors (like Windows), they will never be safe https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/05/11/cisa-joins-partners-release-advisory-protecting-msps-and-their [17:49] TR Bot CISA Joins Partners to Release Advisory on Protecting MSPs and their Customers | CISA [17:49] TR Bot CISA Joins Partners to Release Advisory on Protecting MSPs and their Customers | CISA [17:50] bnchs lol "protecting" [17:50] bnchs lol "protecting" [17:50] bnchs that's like hiring security guards on a broken door [17:50] bnchs that's like hiring security guards on a broken door [17:50] bnchs fucking dumbasses [17:50] bnchs fucking dumbasses [17:50] TR News "MIPS is dead, right? Well, theres now very little done on the architecture itself, MIPS (the company) has decided to switch to RISC-V architecture, and unveiled the eVocore product lineup currently comprised of the eVocore P8700 and I8500 multiprocessor IP cores." https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/05/11/mips-unveils-risc-v-evocore-p8700-and-i8500-multiprocessor-ip-cores/ [17:50] TR News "MIPS is dead, right? Well, theres now very little done on the architecture itself, MIPS (the company) has decided to switch to RISC-V architecture, and unveiled the eVocore product lineup currently comprised of the eVocore P8700 and I8500 multiprocessor IP cores." https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/05/11/mips-unveils-risc-v-evocore-p8700-and-i8500-multiprocessor-ip-cores/ [17:50] TR Bot MIPS unveils RISC-V eVocore P8700 and I8500 multiprocessor IP cores - CNX Software [17:50] TR Bot MIPS unveils RISC-V eVocore P8700 and I8500 multiprocessor IP cores - CNX Software [17:53] TR News Sounds like proprietary snakeoil doing nonsense, protecting systems having already been breached, as they were outsourced to spy companies https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/05/11/zerto-product-updates/ [17:53] TR News Sounds like proprietary snakeoil doing nonsense, protecting systems having already been breached, as they were outsourced to spy companies https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/05/11/zerto-product-updates/ [17:53] TR Bot Zerto enhances ransomware recovery capabilities to address a wide range of data protection issues - Help Net Security [17:53] TR Bot Zerto enhances ransomware recovery capabilities to address a wide range of data protection issues - Help Net Security [17:54] TR News In a petition filed by the Journalist Union of Assam, Supreme Court directs governments to not use Section 124A https://internetfreedom.in/jua-sc-sedition/ Source: internetfreedom [17:54] TR News In a petition filed by the Journalist Union of Assam, Supreme Court directs governments to not use Section 124A https://internetfreedom.in/jua-sc-sedition/ Source: internetfreedom [17:54] TR Bot In a petition filed by the Journalist Union of Assam, Supreme Court directs governments to not use Section 124A [17:54] TR Bot In a petition filed by the Journalist Union of Assam, Supreme Court directs governments to not use Section 124A [17:55] TR News "After spending the night in the hostel in Narbonne, I checked my phone for connections to Barcelona. One suggestion was to go from Narbonne to Port-Bou which is just a few kilometers from the border, already in Spain and to continue from there" https://blog.jabberhead.tk/2022/05/11/europe-trip-journal-entry-8-perpignan/ [17:55] TR News "After spending the night in the hostel in Narbonne, I checked my phone for connections to Barcelona. One suggestion was to go from Narbonne to Port-Bou which is just a few kilometers from the border, already in Spain and to continue from there" https://blog.jabberhead.tk/2022/05/11/europe-trip-journal-entry-8-perpignan/ [17:55] TR Bot Europe Trip Journal Entry 8: Perpignan vanitasvitae's blog [17:55] TR Bot Europe Trip Journal Entry 8: Perpignan vanitasvitae's blog [17:56] TR News [RFCv2 00/10] Linear Address Masking enabling - Kirill A. Shutemov https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220511022751.65540-1-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com/ Source: linux [17:56] TR News [RFCv2 00/10] Linear Address Masking enabling - Kirill A. Shutemov https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220511022751.65540-1-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com/ Source: linux [17:56] TR Bot [RFCv2 00/10] Linear Address Masking enabling - Kirill A. Shutemov [17:56] TR Bot [RFCv2 00/10] Linear Address Masking enabling - Kirill A. Shutemov [17:57] TR News Khadas VIM 4 SoC Linux Android mini PC first hands on look http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164578#comment-33620 [17:57] TR News Khadas VIM 4 SoC Linux Android mini PC first hands on look http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164578#comment-33620 [17:57] TR Bot Khadas VIM4 Review - Part 2: Android 11 preview and benchmarks | Tux Machines [17:57] TR Bot Khadas VIM4 Review - Part 2: Android 11 preview and benchmarks | Tux Machines ● May 11 [18:03] TR News "We decided to cut the release cycle short because of the several security vulnerabilities that were pointed out. See below for details. There are no new features added in this release." https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/05/11/curl-7-83-1-it-burns/ [18:03] TR News "We decided to cut the release cycle short because of the several security vulnerabilities that were pointed out. See below for details. There are no new features added in this release." https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/05/11/curl-7-83-1-it-burns/ [18:03] TR Bot 7.83.1 it burns | daniel.haxx.se [18:03] TR Bot 7.83.1 it burns | daniel.haxx.se [18:04] TR News "Pulseway recently revealed that they had improved functionality for endpoints using macOS and Linux to their RMM solution and deepened the integration to IT Glue. Enterprise Times had the opportunity to get more information about the update when it spoke to Andy Ellwood, VP of Product Marketing at Pulseway." https://www.enterprisetimes.co.uk/2022/05/11/pulseway-delivers-the-glue-for-mac-and-linux/ [18:04] TR News "Pulseway recently revealed that they had improved functionality for endpoints using macOS and Linux to their RMM solution and deepened the integration to IT Glue. Enterprise Times had the opportunity to get more information about the update when it spoke to Andy Ellwood, VP of Product Marketing at Pulseway." https://www.enterprisetimes.co.uk/2022/05/11/pulseway-delivers-the-glue-for-mac-and-linux/ [18:04] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.enterprisetimes.co.uk/2022/05/11/pulseway-delivers-the-glue-for-mac-and-linux/ ) [18:04] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.enterprisetimes.co.uk/2022/05/11/pulseway-delivers-the-glue-for-mac-and-linux/ ) [18:06] TR News "Exir EMR is a new open-source EMR solution that aims to manage small clinics. [...]" but sadly a pile of Microsoft PROPRIETARY garbage at the back end, so it's not really "open" https://medevel.com/exir-emr/ [18:06] TR News "Exir EMR is a new open-source EMR solution that aims to manage small clinics. [...]" but sadly a pile of Microsoft PROPRIETARY garbage at the back end, so it's not really "open" https://medevel.com/exir-emr/ [18:06] TR Bot Exir EMR is an open-source clinical practice management system [18:06] TR Bot Exir EMR is an open-source clinical practice management system [18:07] TR News engine [18:07] TR News engine [18:07] TR News "qu3e is a compact, light-weight and fast 3D physics engine in C++. It is has been specifically created to be used in games." https://medevel.com/qu3e-engine/ [18:07] TR News "qu3e is a compact, light-weight and fast 3D physics engine in C++. It is has been specifically created to be used in games." https://medevel.com/qu3e-engine/ [18:07] TR Bot qu3e is an open-source 3D Physics engine [18:07] TR Bot qu3e is an open-source 3D Physics engine [18:08] TR News Compact fanless firewall appliance offers 6x 2.5GbE ports for $230 and up Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164732 [18:08] TR News Compact fanless firewall appliance offers 6x 2.5GbE ports for $230 and up Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164732 [18:08] TR Bot Compact fanless firewall appliance offers 6x 2.5GbE ports for $230 and up | Tux Machines [18:08] TR Bot Compact fanless firewall appliance offers 6x 2.5GbE ports for $230 and up | Tux Machines [18:09] TR News "It is a self-hosted app which means you can download the code, and run it at your device or remote server." https://medevel.com/flow-habit-tracker/ [18:09] TR News "It is a self-hosted app which means you can download the code, and run it at your device or remote server." https://medevel.com/flow-habit-tracker/ [18:09] TR Bot Flow is an open-source task manager and habit tracker [18:09] TR Bot Flow is an open-source task manager and habit tracker [18:10] TR News "Macast application is released under the GPL-3.0 License." https://medevel.com/macast/ [18:10] TR News "Macast application is released under the GPL-3.0 License." https://medevel.com/macast/ [18:10] TR Bot Macast is a mobile-ready DLNA media server [18:10] TR Bot Macast is a mobile-ready DLNA media server [18:13] TR News No, do not outsource your comms to Gulag. Doing it from the CLI does not make you a geek, you're still fooled and controlled by the US Empire https://opensource.com/article/22/5/gmailctl-linux-command-line-tool [18:13] TR News No, do not outsource your comms to Gulag. Doing it from the CLI does not make you a geek, you're still fooled and controlled by the US Empire https://opensource.com/article/22/5/gmailctl-linux-command-line-tool [18:13] TR Bot your Gmail filters from the Linux command line | Opensource.com [18:13] TR Bot your Gmail filters from the Linux command line | Opensource.com [18:15] TR News No, IBM is slavery, not freedom https://yewtu.be/watch?v=E6fYPpef19g [18:15] TR News No, IBM is slavery, not freedom https://yewtu.be/watch?v=E6fYPpef19g [18:15] TR Bot Fedora 36 overview | Welcome to Freedom. - Invidious [18:15] TR Bot Fedora 36 overview | Welcome to Freedom. - Invidious [18:15] TR News "Use case distros" mean Linux desktop needs more work! - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=GuCLBzzmsoU Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia [18:15] TR News "Use case distros" mean Linux desktop needs more work! - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=GuCLBzzmsoU Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia [18:15] TR Bot "Use case distros" mean Linux desktop needs more work! - Invidious [18:15] TR Bot "Use case distros" mean Linux desktop needs more work! - Invidious [18:17] TR News Clown computing = security breach, untrusted host. Intel, you get a zero or a one. https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-Project-Amber [18:17] TR News Clown computing = security breach, untrusted host. Intel, you get a zero or a one. https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-Project-Amber [18:17] TR Bot Announces "Project Amber" For Verifying The Trustworthiness Of Clouds - Phoronix [18:17] TR Bot Announces "Project Amber" For Verifying The Trustworthiness Of Clouds - Phoronix [18:18] bnchs lol [18:18] bnchs lol [18:18] bnchs "trustworthiness of clouds" [18:18] bnchs "trustworthiness of clouds" [18:18] bnchs as if you UNIRONICALLY PUT YOUR PRIVATE DATA IN A REMOTE SERVER [18:18] bnchs as if you UNIRONICALLY PUT YOUR PRIVATE DATA IN A REMOTE SERVER [18:19] schestowitz-TR trust intelk [18:19] schestowitz-TR trust intelk [18:19] schestowitz-TR the champion of security [18:19] schestowitz-TR the champion of security [18:19] schestowitz-TR totally not connected to the US regime! [18:19] schestowitz-TR totally not connected to the US regime! [18:20] schestowitz-TR The most deadly regime in human civilisation [18:20] schestowitz-TR The most deadly regime in human civilisation [18:20] TR News Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164733 [18:20] TR News Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164733 [18:20] TR Bot Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [18:20] TR Bot Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [18:20] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/03/13/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-4/ [18:20] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/03/13/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-4/ [18:20] TR Bot EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law Part IV: The US CLOUD Act Passes Without Public Debate | Techrights [18:20] TR Bot EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law Part IV: The US CLOUD Act Passes Without Public Debate | Techrights [18:26] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164734 [18:26] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164734 [18:26] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [18:26] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [18:26] psydruid > [notice] www.cnx-software.com | MIPS unveils RISC-V eVocore P8700 and I8500 multiprocessor IP cores - CNX Software [18:26] psydruid https://lwn.net/Articles/838807/ [18:26] psydruid > [notice] www.cnx-software.com | MIPS unveils RISC-V eVocore P8700 and I8500 multiprocessor IP cores - CNX Software [18:26] psydruid https://lwn.net/Articles/838807/ [18:26] TR Bot future of 32-bit Linux [LWN.net] [18:26] TR Bot future of 32-bit Linux [LWN.net] [18:27] TR News Software: Hamza Musas Glance at Some Projects and Rleease of curl 7.83.1 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164735 [18:27] TR News Software: Hamza Musas Glance at Some Projects and Rleease of curl 7.83.1 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164735 [18:27] TR Bot Software: Hamza Musa's Glance at Some Projects and Rleease of curl 7.83.1 | Tux Machines [18:27] TR Bot Software: Hamza Musa's Glance at Some Projects and Rleease of curl 7.83.1 | Tux Machines [18:28] TR News NSA et al would not simply advise people and businesses to abandon Microsoft software with NSA back doors https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/05/11/microsoft-releases-may-2022-security-updates [18:28] TR News NSA et al would not simply advise people and businesses to abandon Microsoft software with NSA back doors https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/05/11/microsoft-releases-may-2022-security-updates [18:28] TR Bot Microsoft Releases May 2022 Security Updates | CISA [18:28] TR Bot Microsoft Releases May 2022 Security Updates | CISA [18:29] TR News About 70 Microsoft holes? So what... that's NOTHING. Love, CISA/NSA. [18:29] TR News About 70 Microsoft holes? So what... that's NOTHING. Love, CISA/NSA. [18:33] TR News Many groups are unrepresented in tech. https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/gender-balance-in-computing-storytelling-approach-engaging-girls/ [18:33] TR News Many groups are unrepresented in tech. https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/gender-balance-in-computing-storytelling-approach-engaging-girls/ [18:33] TR Bot A storytelling approach for engaging girls in the Computing classroom: Pilot study results - Raspberry Pi [18:33] TR Bot A storytelling approach for engaging girls in the Computing classroom: Pilot study results - Raspberry Pi [18:34] TR News Videos/Shows: "Use Case Distros", Fedora 36 Overview, and Moree Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164736 [18:34] TR News Videos/Shows: "Use Case Distros", Fedora 36 Overview, and Moree Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164736 [18:34] TR Bot Videos/Shows: "Use Case Distros", Fedora 36 Overview, and Moree | Tux Machines [18:34] TR Bot Videos/Shows: "Use Case Distros", Fedora 36 Overview, and Moree | Tux Machines [18:34] TR News VMWare GPL case: Linux Foundation reneged on Conservancy funding Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164737 [18:34] TR News VMWare GPL case: Linux Foundation reneged on Conservancy funding Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164737 [18:34] TR Bot VMWare GPL case: Linux Foundation reneged on Conservancy funding | Tux Machines [18:34] TR Bot VMWare GPL case: Linux Foundation reneged on Conservancy funding | Tux Machines [18:34] TR News Proprietary F5 https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/critical-f5-big-ip-vulnerability-exploited-to-wipe-devices/ [18:34] TR News Proprietary F5 https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/critical-f5-big-ip-vulnerability-exploited-to-wipe-devices/ [18:34] TR Bot Critical F5 BIG-IP vulnerability exploited to wipe devices [18:34] TR Bot Critical F5 BIG-IP vulnerability exploited to wipe devices [18:36] TR News A correct headline would have said CISA Adds Microsoft Windows Known Exploited Vulnerability to Catalog https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/05/11/cisa-adds-one-known-exploited-vulnerability-catalog see http://techrights.org/wiki/Call_Out_Windows [18:36] TR News A correct headline would have said CISA Adds Microsoft Windows Known Exploited Vulnerability to Catalog https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/05/11/cisa-adds-one-known-exploited-vulnerability-catalog see http://techrights.org/wiki/Call_Out_Windows [18:36] TR Bot CISA Adds One Known Exploited Vulnerability to Catalog | CISA [18:36] TR Bot CISA Adds One Known Exploited Vulnerability to Catalog | CISA [18:36] TR Bot Call Out Windows - Techrights [18:36] TR Bot Call Out Windows - Techrights [18:38] TR News Announcing the GA release of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.6 https://access.redhat.com/announcements/6957288 [18:38] TR News Announcing the GA release of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.6 https://access.redhat.com/announcements/6957288 [18:38] TR Bot Announcing the GA release of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.6 - Red Hat Customer Portal [18:38] TR Bot Announcing the GA release of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.6 - Red Hat Customer Portal [18:39] TR News Rust is not about security, it is about depending on Microsoft's proprietary malware delivery system, GitHub, controlled by the NSA https://lwn.net/Articles/894808/ [18:39] TR News Rust is not about security, it is about depending on Microsoft's proprietary malware delivery system, GitHub, controlled by the NSA https://lwn.net/Articles/894808/ [18:39] TR Bot malicious "rustdecimal" crate [LWN.net] [18:39] TR Bot malicious "rustdecimal" crate [LWN.net] [18:40] TR News RHEL 8.6: Whats new and #HowTo upgrade | Red Hat Developer https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/05/11/rhel-86-whats-new-and-how-upgrade Source:< ICBM [18:40] TR News RHEL 8.6: Whats new and #HowTo upgrade | Red Hat Developer https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/05/11/rhel-86-whats-new-and-how-upgrade Source:< ICBM [18:40] TR Bot RHEL 8.6: What's new and how to upgrade | Red Hat Developer [18:40] TR Bot RHEL 8.6: What's new and how to upgrade | Red Hat Developer [18:41] TR News IBM pushing "clown" instead of the real thing, server https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/catalyzing-ecosystem-co-creators-cloud [18:41] TR News IBM pushing "clown" instead of the real thing, server https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/catalyzing-ecosystem-co-creators-cloud [18:41] TR Bot Catalyzing an ecosystem of co-creators for the cloud [18:41] TR Bot Catalyzing an ecosystem of co-creators for the cloud [18:41] TR News Proprietary Debacles Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164738 [18:41] TR News Proprietary Debacles Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164738 [18:41] TR Bot Proprietary Debacles | Tux Machines [18:41] TR Bot Proprietary Debacles | Tux Machines [18:41] TR News Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.6 Launches with New Features and Enhancements Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164739 [18:41] TR News Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.6 Launches with New Features and Enhancements Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164739 [18:41] TR Bot Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.6 Launches with New Features and Enhancements | Tux Machines [18:41] TR Bot Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.6 Launches with New Features and Enhancements | Tux Machines [18:43] TR News IBM targets suits to bypass geeks. Wright knows how to do that... https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/how-cios-can-build-future-they-want-open-source [18:43] TR News IBM targets suits to bypass geeks. Wright knows how to do that... https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/how-cios-can-build-future-they-want-open-source [18:43] TR Bot How CIOs can build the future they want with open source [18:43] TR Bot How CIOs can build the future they want with open source [18:43] bnchs schestowitz-TR, the "cloud" (like marketing term for a VPS) is good for only one thing, and that is hosting a website or a instance that is meant to be accessed publicly [18:43] bnchs schestowitz-TR, the "cloud" (like marketing term for a VPS) is good for only one thing, and that is hosting a website or a instance that is meant to be accessed publicly [18:43] bnchs anything else, you can invest in a physical machine [18:43] bnchs anything else, you can invest in a physical machine [18:43] TR News MusKSA seeking to destabilise USA Inc. https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220510-elon-musk-says-he-would-lift-twitter-ban-on-trump [18:43] TR News MusKSA seeking to destabilise USA Inc. https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220510-elon-musk-says-he-would-lift-twitter-ban-on-trump [18:43] TR Bot Elon Musk says he would lift Twitter ban on Trump [18:43] TR Bot Elon Musk says he would lift Twitter ban on Trump [18:44] TR News VPN Services: UnCERT-in times for VPN services providers in India - The Economic Times https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/cons-products/electronics/uncert-in-times-for-vpn-services-providers-in-india/articleshow/91454501.cms Source: economictimes [18:44] TR News VPN Services: UnCERT-in times for VPN services providers in India - The Economic Times https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/cons-products/electronics/uncert-in-times-for-vpn-services-providers-in-india/articleshow/91454501.cms Source: economictimes [18:44] TR Bot VPN Services: UnCERT-in times for VPN services providers in India - The Economic Times [18:44] TR Bot VPN Services: UnCERT-in times for VPN services providers in India - The Economic Times [18:45] TR News Microsoft Is a Domestic Surveillance Agency https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/05/ice-is-a-domestic-surveillance-agency.html see http://techrights.org/2021/04/04/microsoft-nationalism/ [18:45] TR News Microsoft Is a Domestic Surveillance Agency https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/05/ice-is-a-domestic-surveillance-agency.html see http://techrights.org/2021/04/04/microsoft-nationalism/ [18:45] TR Bot Is a Domestic Surveillance Agency - Schneier on Security [18:45] TR Bot Is a Domestic Surveillance Agency - Schneier on Security [18:45] TR Bot Microsoft: Nationalism As A Service (NaaS) | Techrights [18:45] TR Bot Microsoft: Nationalism As A Service (NaaS) | Techrights [18:47] TR News If you are STILL posting ANYTHING in Twitter you are helping MusKSA (people who behead women and chop, then cook journalists). Coming next: releasing a criminal who incites other criminals to attack US government buildings. [18:47] TR News If you are STILL posting ANYTHING in Twitter you are helping MusKSA (people who behead women and chop, then cook journalists). Coming next: releasing a criminal who incites other criminals to attack US government buildings. [18:49] TR News CloudReady 86.4.86 18:12 from Neverware is out https://www.neverware.com/ [18:49] TR News CloudReady 86.4.86 18:12 from Neverware is out https://www.neverware.com/ [18:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Neverware [18:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Neverware [18:50] TR News Twitter isn't a social network, it's a crime network. It helps Jeffrey Epstein's network. It's also foreign owner and serves to further destabilise the US and -- by extension -- the world. Twitter has NO SJWs because IF they STILL post in Twitter, they actively ATTACK social justice. http://techrights.org/2022/03/01/twitter-happier-during-wars/ [18:50] TR News Twitter isn't a social network, it's a crime network. It helps Jeffrey Epstein's network. It's also foreign owner and serves to further destabilise the US and -- by extension -- the world. Twitter has NO SJWs because IF they STILL post in Twitter, they actively ATTACK social justice. http://techrights.org/2022/03/01/twitter-happier-during-wars/ [18:50] TR Bot Twitter Profits From Conflict | Techrights [18:50] TR Bot Twitter Profits From Conflict | Techrights [18:51] TR News If you are STILL posting ANYTHING in Twitter, you are part of the problem. Yes, you too, EFF and FSF (the FSF already admitted you need proprietary software to use Twitter; since 1.5 years ago). [18:51] TR News If you are STILL posting ANYTHING in Twitter, you are part of the problem. Yes, you too, EFF and FSF (the FSF already admitted you need proprietary software to use Twitter; since 1.5 years ago). [18:54] TR News Red Hat Linux to drive General Motors Ultifi vehicle operating system https://thestack.technology/red-hat-linux-vehicle-operating-system-general-motors/ Source: thestack [18:54] TR News Red Hat Linux to drive General Motors Ultifi vehicle operating system https://thestack.technology/red-hat-linux-vehicle-operating-system-general-motors/ Source: thestack [18:54] TR Bot Red Hat Linux to drive General Motors' Ultifi vehicle operating system [18:54] TR Bot Red Hat Linux to drive General Motors' Ultifi vehicle operating system [18:56] TR News iXsystems releases TrueNAS 13.0 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164740 [18:56] TR News iXsystems releases TrueNAS 13.0 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164740 [18:56] TR Bot iXsystems releases TrueNAS 13.0 | Tux Machines [18:56] TR Bot iXsystems releases TrueNAS 13.0 | Tux Machines [18:57] TR News Public Knowledge Urges Congress To Pass Bill Restoring FTCs Authority To Return Money to Ripped Off Consumers - Public Knowledge https://publicknowledge.org/public-knowledge-urges-congress-to-pass-bill-restoring-ftcs-authority-to-return-money-to-ripped-off-consumers/ Source: publicknowledge [18:57] TR News Public Knowledge Urges Congress To Pass Bill Restoring FTCs Authority To Return Money to Ripped Off Consumers - Public Knowledge https://publicknowledge.org/public-knowledge-urges-congress-to-pass-bill-restoring-ftcs-authority-to-return-money-to-ripped-off-consumers/ Source: publicknowledge [18:57] TR Bot Public Knowledge Urges Congress To Pass Bill Restoring FTCs Authority To Return Money to Ripped Off Consumers - Public Knowledge [18:57] TR Bot Public Knowledge Urges Congress To Pass Bill Restoring FTCs Authority To Return Money to Ripped Off Consumers - Public Knowledge [18:58] TR News "The EEOC specifically outlines questions relating to an applicant's disability that cannot be asked before a job offer is made, such as: Do you have any mental or physical disabilities? Do you take prescription drugs? Have you ever filed a workers compensation claim?" https://www.fosslife.org/questions-job-interviewers-are-not-allowed-ask [18:58] TR News "The EEOC specifically outlines questions relating to an applicant's disability that cannot be asked before a job offer is made, such as: Do you have any mental or physical disabilities? Do you take prescription drugs? Have you ever filed a workers compensation claim?" https://www.fosslife.org/questions-job-interviewers-are-not-allowed-ask [18:58] TR Bot Questions Job Interviewers Are Not Allowed to Ask [18:58] TR Bot Questions Job Interviewers Are Not Allowed to Ask [18:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 40.28 k/sec., IPFS upstream 9.73 average k/sec., average swarm size 537.98 [18:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 40.28 k/sec., IPFS upstream 9.73 average k/sec., average swarm size 537.98 [18:59] TR News Simon Bisson is scattering Microsoft propaganda under headlines with the word "Linux" on them. IDG isn't a news site. It's a Microsoft operatives' network/hive. [18:59] TR News Simon Bisson is scattering Microsoft propaganda under headlines with the word "Linux" on them. IDG isn't a news site. It's a Microsoft operatives' network/hive. ● May 11 [19:01] TR News Brian Behlendorf Testifies on Open Source Software Security to the US House Committee on Science and Technology https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/lf/brian-behlendorf-testifies-open-source-software-security/ see http://techrights.org/2022/01/14/white-house-security-theatre/ [19:01] TR News Brian Behlendorf Testifies on Open Source Software Security to the US House Committee on Science and Technology https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/lf/brian-behlendorf-testifies-open-source-software-security/ see http://techrights.org/2022/01/14/white-house-security-theatre/ [19:01] TR Bot Brian Behlendorf Testifies on Open Source Software Security to the US House Committee on Science and Technology - Linux Foundation [19:01] TR Bot Brian Behlendorf Testifies on Open Source Software Security to the US House Committee on Science and Technology - Linux Foundation [19:01] TR Bot White House Asking Proprietary Software Companies That Add NSA Back Doors About Their Views on Open Source Security | Techrights [19:01] TR Bot White House Asking Proprietary Software Companies That Add NSA Back Doors About Their Views on Open Source Security | Techrights [19:02] TR News IDG redefines "backdoor"; it's not when Microsoft puts back doors there for US spy agencies but when a system gets breached for some reason and then the intruder installs something https://www.csoonline.com/article/3659802/stealthy-linux-implant-bpfdoor-compromised-organizations-globally-for-years.html [19:02] TR News IDG redefines "backdoor"; it's not when Microsoft puts back doors there for US spy agencies but when a system gets breached for some reason and then the intruder installs something https://www.csoonline.com/article/3659802/stealthy-linux-implant-bpfdoor-compromised-organizations-globally-for-years.html [19:02] TR Bot Stealthy Linux implant BPFdoor compromised organizations globally for years | CSO Online [19:02] TR Bot Stealthy Linux implant BPFdoor compromised organizations globally for years | CSO Online [19:06] TR News I2C based OLED (132X64) Interfaced with Arduino Uno https://peppe8o.com/i2c-based-oled-132x64-interfaced-with-arduino-uno/ Source: peppe8o [19:06] TR News I2C based OLED (132X64) Interfaced with Arduino Uno https://peppe8o.com/i2c-based-oled-132x64-interfaced-with-arduino-uno/ Source: peppe8o [19:06] TR Bot I2C based OLED (132X64) Interfaced with Arduino Uno [19:06] TR Bot I2C based OLED (132X64) Interfaced with Arduino Uno [19:06] TR News This special front door controller has several ways to unlock it | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/05/11/this-special-front-door-controller-has-several-ways-to-unlock-it/ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking [19:06] TR News This special front door controller has several ways to unlock it | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/05/11/this-special-front-door-controller-has-several-ways-to-unlock-it/ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking [19:06] TR Bot This special front door controller has several ways to unlock it | Arduino Blog [19:06] TR Bot This special front door controller has several ways to unlock it | Arduino Blog [19:07] TR News Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt Against Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164741 [19:07] TR News Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt Against Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164741 [19:07] TR Bot Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt Against Linux | Tux Machines [19:07] TR Bot Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt Against Linux | Tux Machines [19:08] TR News Arduino Uno and Arduino for Door Controller Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164742 [19:08] TR News Arduino Uno and Arduino for Door Controller Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164742 [19:08] TR Bot Arduino Uno and Arduino for Door Controller | Tux Machines [19:08] TR Bot Arduino Uno and Arduino for Door Controller | Tux Machines [19:11] TR News Canonical is ONCE again promoting WINDOWS!!! What on Earth is going on? [19:11] TR News Canonical is ONCE again promoting WINDOWS!!! What on Earth is going on? [19:13] TR News Years ago Steven Vaughan-Nichols became not a journalist but a stenographer fore sponsors [19:13] TR News Years ago Steven Vaughan-Nichols became not a journalist but a stenographer fore sponsors [19:14] TR News Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164743 [19:14] TR News Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164743 [19:14] TR Bot Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [19:14] TR Bot Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [19:15] TR News IBM/Red Hat Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164744 [19:15] TR News IBM/Red Hat Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164744 [19:15] TR Bot IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines [19:15] TR Bot IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines [19:22] *includeals has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [19:31] *includeals (~includeal@a89-153-106-143.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #techrights [19:32] TR News Links 11/05/2022: Rocky Linu Gets a Lot of Money and iXsystems Releases TrueNAS 13.0 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/11/ixsystems-releases-truenas-13-0/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/11/ixsystems-releases-truenas-13-0/ [19:32] TR News Links 11/05/2022: Rocky Linu Gets a Lot of Money and iXsystems Releases TrueNAS 13.0 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/11/ixsystems-releases-truenas-13-0/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/11/ixsystems-releases-truenas-13-0/ [19:32] TR Bot Links 11/05/2022: Rocky Linu Gets a Lot of Money and iXsystems Releases TrueNAS 13.0 | Techrights [19:32] TR Bot Links 11/05/2022: Rocky Linu Gets a Lot of Money and iXsystems Releases TrueNAS 13.0 | Techrights [19:34] TR News It looks like SPAMnil is now buying youtube 'views', but it's hard to prove. [19:34] TR News It looks like SPAMnil is now buying youtube 'views', but it's hard to prove. [19:34] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164745 [19:34] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164745 [19:34] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [19:34] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [19:34] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164746 [19:34] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164746 [19:34] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [19:34] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [19:41] TR News My Favorite Modules: Errno http://blogs.perl.org/users/tom_wyant/2022/05/my-favorite-modules-errno.html [19:41] TR News My Favorite Modules: Errno http://blogs.perl.org/users/tom_wyant/2022/05/my-favorite-modules-errno.html [19:41] TR Bot Favorite Modules: Errno | Tom Wyant [blogs.perl.org] [19:41] TR Bot Favorite Modules: Errno | Tom Wyant [blogs.perl.org] [19:42] TR News "Orange is a super lightweight open-source desktop search engine that allows you to search for and inside your local files and folders. Its compact tiny size because it is written using Tauri; a revolutionary Rust-based framework for building desktop using web technologies." https://medevel.com/orange-file-search/ [19:42] TR News "Orange is a super lightweight open-source desktop search engine that allows you to search for and inside your local files and folders. Its compact tiny size because it is written using Tauri; a revolutionary Rust-based framework for building desktop using web technologies." https://medevel.com/orange-file-search/ [19:42] TR Bot Orange is an open-source fast desktop search engine [19:42] TR Bot Orange is an open-source fast desktop search engine [19:43] TR News "Lios stands for "Linux-Intelligent-Ocr-Solution" which is an open-source, free OCR solution that converts any text in image, PDF into a readable text." https://medevel.com/lios-ocr/ [19:43] TR News "Lios stands for "Linux-Intelligent-Ocr-Solution" which is an open-source, free OCR solution that converts any text in image, PDF into a readable text." https://medevel.com/lios-ocr/ [19:43] TR Bot Lios is properly the best open-source Linux OCR [19:43] TR Bot Lios is properly the best open-source Linux OCR [19:47] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/18120254 [19:47] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/18120254 [19:47] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/wjjaqmzuk0021.jpg created on 2018-12-02 23:39:43.673242 [19:47] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/wjjaqmzuk0021.jpg created on 2018-12-02 23:39:43.673242 [19:56] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:56] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● May 11 [20:00] *zleap (~zleap@user/zleap) has joined #techrights [20:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights [20:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights [20:17] MinceR https://blog.chriszacharias.com/a-conspiracy-to-kill-ie6 [20:17] MinceR https://blog.chriszacharias.com/a-conspiracy-to-kill-ie6 [20:17] TR Bot A Conspiracy To Kill IE6 [20:17] TR Bot A Conspiracy To Kill IE6 [20:38] TR News Docker Desktop for Linux Available to Download http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164717#comment-33624 [20:38] TR News Docker Desktop for Linux Available to Download http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164717#comment-33624 [20:38] TR Bot Good News! Docker Desktop is Now Here for Linux Users | Tux Machines [20:38] TR Bot Good News! Docker Desktop is Now Here for Linux Users | Tux Machines [20:38] *zleap has quit (Quit: Leaving) [20:38] TR News [AMDGPU] gfx11 BUF Instructions https://reviews.llvm.org/D125319 [20:38] TR News [AMDGPU] gfx11 BUF Instructions https://reviews.llvm.org/D125319 [20:38] TR Bot D125319 [AMDGPU] gfx11 BUF Instructions [20:38] TR Bot D125319 [AMDGPU] gfx11 BUF Instructions [20:41] *bnchs has quit (connection closed) [20:41] *bnchs has quit (connection closed) [20:44] *bnchs (~bnchs@dscg2hhyna2ta.irc) has joined #techrights [20:44] *bnchs (~bnchs@dscg2hhyna2ta.irc) has joined #techrights [20:47] activelow EU introduced legislation: all service providers (google, etc) _must_ scan _all_ user data for illegal material [20:47] activelow EU introduced legislation: all service providers (google, etc) _must_ scan _all_ user data for illegal material [20:47] activelow with the argument, to protect children... here we go again: [20:47] activelow with the argument, to protect children... here we go again: [20:47] activelow 1) child abuse almost always occurs among relatives, regardless of any internet activity [20:47] activelow 1) child abuse almost always occurs among relatives, regardless of any internet activity [20:48] activelow 2) if child abuse was the concern, then the social surroundings of children were subject to official intervention, regardless of any internet activity [20:48] activelow 2) if child abuse was the concern, then the social surroundings of children were subject to official intervention, regardless of any internet activity [20:48] TR News But KDB is 1) NOT a striker. 2) this is AWAY match. "24 - Kevin De Bruyne's hat-trick within 24 minutes is the third earliest scored from the start of a match in Premier League history, after Sadio Mane v Aston Villa in May 2015 (16 mins) and Dwight Yorke v Arsenal in February 2001 (22). Incredible." [20:48] TR News But KDB is 1) NOT a striker. 2) this is AWAY match. "24 - Kevin De Bruyne's hat-trick within 24 minutes is the third earliest scored from the start of a match in Premier League history, after Sadio Mane v Aston Villa in May 2015 (16 mins) and Dwight Yorke v Arsenal in February 2001 (22). Incredible." [20:48] activelow 3) spying on _all_ user data will probably be ineffective [20:48] activelow 3) spying on _all_ user data will probably be ineffective [20:49] activelow 4) spying on _all_ users including those who did not commit any crime is a most severe violation of constitutional rights [20:49] activelow 4) spying on _all_ users including those who did not commit any crime is a most severe violation of constitutional rights [20:49] activelow 5) spying for whatever cause is prone to abuse [20:49] activelow 5) spying for whatever cause is prone to abuse [20:51] activelow conclusion, the argument to justify spying is a invalid, if EU or any other bureaucratic entity intended to protect children, then first and foremost relatives and social surroundings of children must be taken care of, always [20:51] activelow conclusion, the argument to justify spying is a invalid, if EU or any other bureaucratic entity intended to protect children, then first and foremost relatives and social surroundings of children must be taken care of, always [20:51] activelow conclusion, the EU order google etc. must spy on _all_ user data probably shall serve other interests involved [20:51] activelow conclusion, the EU order google etc. must spy on _all_ user data probably shall serve other interests involved [20:51] psydruid maybe the EU wants to be forced to get dissolved [20:51] psydruid maybe the EU wants to be forced to get dissolved [20:52] activelow given the fact, EU is the most corrupt bureaucratic in history [20:52] activelow given the fact, EU is the most corrupt bureaucratic in history [20:52] activelow their lies and propaganda are excessive; and the recent EU order is a most severe violation of all constitutions of EU members [20:52] activelow their lies and propaganda are excessive; and the recent EU order is a most severe violation of all constitutions of EU members [20:52] *activelow sharpens his knive [20:52] *activelow sharpens his knive [20:53] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@v795msph445t6.irc) has joined #techrights [20:53] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@v795msph445t6.irc) has joined #techrights [20:53] activelow baphometos will not spie on users [20:53] activelow baphometos will not spie on users [20:53] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, A bullshitcoin "pegged to the dollar" fell to be worth less than 25 cents. [20:53] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, A bullshitcoin "pegged to the dollar" fell to be worth less than 25 cents. [20:53] DaemonFC :) [20:53] DaemonFC :) [20:53] schestowitz-TR \what was it before? [20:53] schestowitz-TR \what was it before? [20:54] schestowitz-TR like peak? [20:54] schestowitz-TR like peak? [20:54] DaemonFC "Don't hold Dollars, HODL these!" [20:54] DaemonFC "Don't hold Dollars, HODL these!" [20:54] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: no, it goes like this [20:54] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: no, it goes like this [20:54] DaemonFC Well, if it's pegged 1:1 it can never be worth much more or less than $1 USD, however it's now 4 USTs to the Dollar. [20:54] DaemonFC Well, if it's pegged 1:1 it can never be worth much more or less than $1 USD, however it's now 4 USTs to the Dollar. [20:54] schestowitz-TR "DOLLARS SUCK!!" [20:54] schestowitz-TR "DOLLARS SUCK!!" [20:54] schestowitz-TR "GIVE ME DOLLARS!!!" [20:54] schestowitz-TR "GIVE ME DOLLARS!!!" [20:54] bnchs dollars suck [20:54] bnchs dollars suck [20:54] schestowitz-TR "I will give you THIS" [20:54] schestowitz-TR "I will give you THIS" [20:54] DaemonFC So really it's not pegged and people who thought it was just got pegged. [20:54] DaemonFC So really it's not pegged and people who thought it was just got pegged. [20:54] bnchs here's this fake coin [20:54] bnchs here's this fake coin [20:55] schestowitz-TR pay for IN DOLLARS for it [20:55] schestowitz-TR pay for IN DOLLARS for it [20:55] DaemonFC Yes, because you put $100 or whatever in and then the thing that's a "stablecoin" is only worth $25 now, so you lose $75 per $100 you "invested". [20:55] DaemonFC Yes, because you put $100 or whatever in and then the thing that's a "stablecoin" is only worth $25 now, so you lose $75 per $100 you "invested". [20:55] DaemonFC Be sure to report to the IRS what an idiot you are. [20:55] DaemonFC Be sure to report to the IRS what an idiot you are. [20:57] DaemonFC "Yeah, I bought 10,000 USTs on a cost basis of $10,000 and sold them for $2,500, lost $7,500, and would like to report one hell of a loss. I am also paying more so TurboTax will include one more form on my e-filing.". [20:57] DaemonFC "Yeah, I bought 10,000 USTs on a cost basis of $10,000 and sold them for $2,500, lost $7,500, and would like to report one hell of a loss. I am also paying more so TurboTax will include one more form on my e-filing.". [20:58] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I sold some Treasuries and bought new ones. [20:58] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I sold some Treasuries and bought new ones. [20:59] DaemonFC The old ones weren't going to adjust to the now current rate for 6 more months, so it was more beneficial to sell them for 10 months worth of interest after holding them for 12 months and anticipate that inflation will continue to pick up and start racking up the 9.68% right away so they'll adjust when the inflation figure goes up again. [20:59] DaemonFC The old ones weren't going to adjust to the now current rate for 6 more months, so it was more beneficial to sell them for 10 months worth of interest after holding them for 12 months and anticipate that inflation will continue to pick up and start racking up the 9.68% right away so they'll adjust when the inflation figure goes up again. ● May 11 [21:00] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.56 k/sec., IPFS upstream 50.53 average k/sec., average swarm size 557.60 [21:00] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.56 k/sec., IPFS upstream 50.53 average k/sec., average swarm size 557.60 [21:05] XRevan86 When I say that to me the future is bleak, I forget to mention one thing that the future holds: I really don't think that Putin is going to get away with it this time, Ukraine is the horse to bet on. [21:05] XRevan86 When I say that to me the future is bleak, I forget to mention one thing that the future holds: I really don't think that Putin is going to get away with it this time, Ukraine is the horse to bet on. [21:07] XRevan86 The outside-of-Russia perspective is going to be different as people outside won't have to live in the ruins that Putin will leave behind. [21:07] XRevan86 The outside-of-Russia perspective is going to be different as people outside won't have to live in the ruins that Putin will leave behind. [21:13] XRevan86 Ukraine has ruins left by Putin as well, and much more literal ones, but the future isn't as bleak for it. [21:13] XRevan86 Ukraine has ruins left by Putin as well, and much more literal ones, but the future isn't as bleak for it. [21:14] DaemonFC When I say that to me the future is bleak, I forget to mention one thing that the future holds: I really don't think that Putin is going to get away with it this time, Ukraine is the horse to bet on. [21:14] DaemonFC When I say that to me the future is bleak, I forget to mention one thing that the future holds: I really don't think that Putin is going to get away with it this time, Ukraine is the horse to bet on. [21:15] DaemonFC Well, yeah. It costs the Russians $3-5 million per tank, and you can blow up the tank with a $200,000 missile. And we're GIVING them the missiles so we can sit back and go LULZ when they blow up all those $3-5 million Russian tanks. [21:15] DaemonFC Well, yeah. It costs the Russians $3-5 million per tank, and you can blow up the tank with a $200,000 missile. And we're GIVING them the missiles so we can sit back and go LULZ when they blow up all those $3-5 million Russian tanks. [21:16] DaemonFC Sometimes not even a $200,000 missile. [21:16] DaemonFC Sometimes not even a $200,000 missile. [21:16] DaemonFC Those switchblade drones don't cost much, but they can take out a tank, they can swoop down and blow up some Russian troops while they're sleeping, they can take out APCs... [21:16] DaemonFC Those switchblade drones don't cost much, but they can take out a tank, they can swoop down and blow up some Russian troops while they're sleeping, they can take out APCs... [21:17] DaemonFC If the Russians are stupid enough to dock one of their ships at port or be close to the shore, you can use suicide drones on those too. [21:17] DaemonFC If the Russians are stupid enough to dock one of their ships at port or be close to the shore, you can use suicide drones on those too. [21:17] DaemonFC You may not sink the ship, but you can do some damage. [21:17] DaemonFC You may not sink the ship, but you can do some damage. [21:17] schestowitz-TR ohoo [21:17] schestowitz-TR ohoo [21:17] schestowitz-TR stupid american[r] [21:17] schestowitz-TR stupid american[r] [21:17] schestowitz-TR until putin gets fed upo [21:17] schestowitz-TR until putin gets fed upo [21:17] schestowitz-TR and starts dropping nukes on nations [21:17] schestowitz-TR and starts dropping nukes on nations [21:17] schestowitz-TR and americans grab popcorn [21:17] schestowitz-TR and americans grab popcorn [21:18] schestowitz-TR and then nukes start falling on them too [21:18] schestowitz-TR and then nukes start falling on them too [21:18] XRevan86 DaemonFC: That's a very Usonian view on this, cost-effectiveness of the US investments :). [21:18] XRevan86 DaemonFC: That's a very Usonian view on this, cost-effectiveness of the US investments :). [21:18] schestowitz-TR this us proxy war is insane [21:18] schestowitz-TR this us proxy war is insane [21:18] schestowitz-TR and biden feeds it [21:18] schestowitz-TR and biden feeds it [21:18] DaemonFC Yeah, the Russians are losing very badly. [21:18] DaemonFC Yeah, the Russians are losing very badly. [21:18] schestowitz-TR they have nukes [21:18] schestowitz-TR they have nukes [21:18] DaemonFC They haven't made any gains that are worth what they've lost. [21:18] DaemonFC They haven't made any gains that are worth what they've lost. [21:18] schestowitz-TR stop bragging [21:18] schestowitz-TR stop bragging [21:18] DaemonFC And they won't. [21:18] DaemonFC And they won't. [21:18] schestowitz-TR you just repeat propaganda lies [21:18] schestowitz-TR you just repeat propaganda lies [21:18] schestowitz-TR and corporate media jingoism [21:18] schestowitz-TR and corporate media jingoism [21:19] schestowitz-TR many ukraine citizens dioe [21:19] schestowitz-TR many ukraine citizens dioe [21:19] XRevan86 schestowitz: Nuke-scaremongering is a Russian propaganda tactic. [21:19] XRevan86 schestowitz: Nuke-scaremongering is a Russian propaganda tactic. [21:19] schestowitz-TR us uses them as cannon fodder [21:19] schestowitz-TR us uses them as cannon fodder [21:19] schestowitz-TR even leftists in ukraine say this [21:19] schestowitz-TR even leftists in ukraine say this [21:19] schestowitz-TR instead of working towards peace [21:19] schestowitz-TR instead of working towards peace [21:19] schestowitz-TR like lula (brazil) said [21:19] schestowitz-TR like lula (brazil) said [21:19] XRevan86 schestowitz: But Putin didn't dare to mention nukes even once on May 9th. [21:19] XRevan86 schestowitz: But Putin didn't dare to mention nukes even once on May 9th. [21:19] schestowitz-TR you need to end this war [21:19] schestowitz-TR you need to end this war [21:19] schestowitz-TR by all means possible [21:19] schestowitz-TR by all means possible [21:19] DaemonFC Propaganda? No. The Russians are so fucking dumb that they dig up a radioactive forest in Chernobyl that turns them inside out and then retreat back into Belarus to go to the hospital. [21:19] DaemonFC Propaganda? No. The Russians are so fucking dumb that they dig up a radioactive forest in Chernobyl that turns them inside out and then retreat back into Belarus to go to the hospital. [21:19] DaemonFC I mean talk about fucking DUMB. [21:19] DaemonFC I mean talk about fucking DUMB. [21:19] schestowitz-TR bbl [21:19] schestowitz-TR bbl [21:19] schestowitz-TR it's off topic anyway [21:19] schestowitz-TR it's off topic anyway [21:20] DaemonFC Let's dig a trench right next to the worst nuclear disaster in history that everyone knows about. [21:20] DaemonFC Let's dig a trench right next to the worst nuclear disaster in history that everyone knows about. [21:20] XRevan86 schestowitz: "instead of working towards peace" <- I'm going to try to find you a response Putin gave to a proposition of peace negotiations. [21:20] XRevan86 schestowitz: "instead of working towards peace" <- I'm going to try to find you a response Putin gave to a proposition of peace negotiations. [21:20] DaemonFC Herr derr [21:20] DaemonFC Herr derr [21:21] DaemonFC The Russians should not be allowed near anything that has the word "nuclear" in it. [21:21] DaemonFC The Russians should not be allowed near anything that has the word "nuclear" in it. [21:21] DaemonFC Every time they are, it ends badly. [21:21] DaemonFC Every time they are, it ends badly. [21:21] schestowitz-TR so what is the alternative, XRevan86? [21:21] schestowitz-TR so what is the alternative, XRevan86? [21:21] schestowitz-TR to "win" the war? [21:21] schestowitz-TR to "win" the war? [21:21] schestowitz-TR nobody wins awar [21:21] schestowitz-TR nobody wins awar [21:21] schestowitz-TR meanwhile tons of people die [21:21] schestowitz-TR meanwhile tons of people die [21:21] *tux (~b9dc654d@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [21:21] *tux (~b9dc654d@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [21:22] schestowitz-TR with damages in the hundreds of billions to "p[roperty" [21:22] schestowitz-TR with damages in the hundreds of billions to "p[roperty" [21:22] DaemonFC There was almost a mutiny aboard the K-19 because so many of the crew were dying that they thought about defecting to a nearby American ship to be towed to port and offered medical assistance. [21:22] DaemonFC There was almost a mutiny aboard the K-19 because so many of the crew were dying that they thought about defecting to a nearby American ship to be towed to port and offered medical assistance. [21:22] XRevan86 schestowitz: Putin's view on peace is surrender. [21:22] XRevan86 schestowitz: Putin's view on peace is surrender. [21:22] DaemonFC And that wasn't even the only disaster on that particular ship. [21:22] DaemonFC And that wasn't even the only disaster on that particular ship. [21:22] tux K-19 ? is that covid in russian? [21:22] tux K-19 ? is that covid in russian? [21:22] XRevan86 schestowitz: Unless Ukraine is willing to surrender, the war will continue. [21:22] XRevan86 schestowitz: Unless Ukraine is willing to surrender, the war will continue. [21:22] DaemonFC It was a poorly-built Russian nuclear submarine. [21:22] DaemonFC It was a poorly-built Russian nuclear submarine. [21:23] XRevan86 schestowitz: And they're not willing. Therefore [21:23] XRevan86 schestowitz: And they're not willing. Therefore [21:23] DaemonFC The politicians sent it out without a shakedown to make a point to the United States that they had it. [21:23] DaemonFC The politicians sent it out without a shakedown to make a point to the United States that they had it. [21:23] DaemonFC And that was the first disaster in regards to that ship. [21:23] DaemonFC And that was the first disaster in regards to that ship. [21:23] DaemonFC It killed many people during its time in service and was said to be "cursed". [21:23] DaemonFC It killed many people during its time in service and was said to be "cursed". [21:23] schestowitz-TR US profits from it [21:23] schestowitz-TR US profits from it [21:23] schestowitz-TR no damage to itself [21:23] schestowitz-TR no damage to itself [21:23] schestowitz-TR just sales [21:23] schestowitz-TR just sales [21:23] schestowitz-TR and the us taxpayers gets poorer [21:23] schestowitz-TR and the us taxpayers gets poorer [21:24] schestowitz-TR and homeless [21:24] schestowitz-TR and homeless [21:24] DaemonFC The Russians always cut corners when it comes to nuclear safety and then they get a disaster, or multiple disasters. [21:24] DaemonFC The Russians always cut corners when it comes to nuclear safety and then they get a disaster, or multiple disasters. [21:24] DaemonFC They proved that they can't handle nuclear power because they're incompetent and cheap. [21:24] DaemonFC They proved that they can't handle nuclear power because they're incompetent and cheap. [21:25] DaemonFC And their government has a habit of simply classifying the design defects and punishing anyone who won't cooperate with the cover-up. [21:25] DaemonFC And their government has a habit of simply classifying the design defects and punishing anyone who won't cooperate with the cover-up. [21:25] tux its topdown incompetence [21:25] tux its topdown incompetence [21:25] DaemonFC The US nuclear incidents have tended to be mild because our stuff was designed to fail safe. [21:25] DaemonFC The US nuclear incidents have tended to be mild because our stuff was designed to fail safe. [21:26] tux i think the ukarainians mafe russia a favor killing off that many generals [21:26] tux i think the ukarainians mafe russia a favor killing off that many generals [21:26] DaemonFC If this happens, there are several reasons why it won't explode and spew out the core material. [21:26] DaemonFC If this happens, there are several reasons why it won't explode and spew out the core material. [21:26] DaemonFC That sort of thing. [21:26] DaemonFC That sort of thing. [21:26] tux then they had to get the only reall battel proven general from siria [21:26] tux then they had to get the only reall battel proven general from siria [21:27] DaemonFC The Russians were doing core dumps before it was cool. [21:27] DaemonFC The Russians were doing core dumps before it was cool. [21:27] DaemonFC (In fact, it was quite hot.) [21:27] DaemonFC (In fact, it was quite hot.) [21:28] tux russians are running linux mining rigs on their nuclear stations [21:28] tux russians are running linux mining rigs on their nuclear stations [21:28] DaemonFC People like Putin are good at hiding under their desks and getting a lot of other people killed. [21:28] DaemonFC People like Putin are good at hiding under their desks and getting a lot of other people killed. [21:28] DaemonFC Not much else. [21:28] DaemonFC Not much else. [21:29] tux donald trump learned alot from putin [21:29] tux donald trump learned alot from putin [21:29] DaemonFC The Iranians are resorting to Bitcoin Tulip Mania because of sanctions. [21:29] DaemonFC The Iranians are resorting to Bitcoin Tulip Mania because of sanctions. [21:29] DaemonFC As are the North Koreans. [21:29] DaemonFC As are the North Koreans. [21:29] tux putin is the best at fake news trump is only an apprentice [21:29] tux putin is the best at fake news trump is only an apprentice [21:29] XRevan86 https://www.tgcom24.mediaset.it/mondo/lavrov-in-esclusiva-su-zona-bianca-russia-non-ha-mai-smesso-dialogo-per-evitare-guerra-mondiale_49548127-202202k.shtml Minister of Foreign Affairs Sergiey Lavrov: "Zelensky can bring peace if he stops giving criminal orders to his Nazi battalions and makes them stop fighting" [21:29] XRevan86 https://www.tgcom24.mediaset.it/mondo/lavrov-in-esclusiva-su-zona-bianca-russia-non-ha-mai-smesso-dialogo-per-evitare-guerra-mondiale_49548127-202202k.shtml Minister of Foreign Affairs Sergiey Lavrov: "Zelensky can bring peace if he stops giving criminal orders to his Nazi battalions and makes them stop fighting" [21:29] TR Bot Lavrov in esclusiva su "Zona Bianca": "Russia non ha mai smesso dialogo per evitare Guerra Mondiale" [21:29] TR Bot Lavrov in esclusiva su "Zona Bianca": "Russia non ha mai smesso dialogo per evitare Guerra Mondiale" [21:30] DaemonFC What's beginning to unfold in "stablecoins" which actually aren't stable at all, go figure, is the beginning of the end. [21:30] DaemonFC What's beginning to unfold in "stablecoins" which actually aren't stable at all, go figure, is the beginning of the end. [21:30] XRevan86 That's from May 1st [21:30] XRevan86 That's from May 1st [21:30] DaemonFC People lose confidence, they aren't backed by any sort of real economy. [21:30] DaemonFC People lose confidence, they aren't backed by any sort of real economy. [21:30] XRevan86 schestowitz: Remove the fluff and read: "peace if they stop fighting". [21:30] XRevan86 schestowitz: Remove the fluff and read: "peace if they stop fighting". [21:30] DaemonFC People realize that it's actually not so easy to hide from the Treasury and do illegal things with them, which is part of the "confidence" they had before. [21:30] DaemonFC People realize that it's actually not so easy to hide from the Treasury and do illegal things with them, which is part of the "confidence" they had before. [21:30] tux DaemonFC is another fake news believer [21:30] tux DaemonFC is another fake news believer [21:30] DaemonFC So they will lose all or most of their value. [21:30] DaemonFC So they will lose all or most of their value. [21:31] XRevan86 https://github.com/NVIDIA/open-gpu-kernel-modules what [21:31] XRevan86 https://github.com/NVIDIA/open-gpu-kernel-modules what [21:31] TR Bot - NVIDIA/open-gpu-kernel-modules: NVIDIA Linux open GPU kernel module source [21:31] TR Bot - NVIDIA/open-gpu-kernel-modules: NVIDIA Linux open GPU kernel module source [21:31] tux this war will end once ukarania takes over russia [21:31] tux this war will end once ukarania takes over russia [21:31] DaemonFC Bitcoins have lost well over half their peak value in less than 8 months. [21:31] DaemonFC Bitcoins have lost well over half their peak value in less than 8 months. [21:31] DaemonFC How does that happen? Well, I'll tell you, simply, how that happens. [21:31] DaemonFC How does that happen? Well, I'll tell you, simply, how that happens. [21:32] DaemonFC They were fake and the only value that had was whatever those idiots like my sister-in-law agreed they had. [21:32] DaemonFC They were fake and the only value that had was whatever those idiots like my sister-in-law agreed they had. [21:32] tux bitcoins are geting harder to mine [21:32] tux bitcoins are geting harder to mine [21:32] tux thats why [21:32] tux thats why [21:33] DaemonFC That's part of it too, but there's also a blood bath in other "stable" coins that are slightly inflationary in nature, not deflationary. [21:33] DaemonFC That's part of it too, but there's also a blood bath in other "stable" coins that are slightly inflationary in nature, not deflationary. [21:33] tux nvidea isnt making as much selling minig powerhouses [21:33] tux nvidea isnt making as much selling minig powerhouses [21:33] tux so bitcoin drops [21:33] tux so bitcoin drops [21:33] DaemonFC Good. [21:33] DaemonFC Good. [21:34] tux bitcoin has been being backed by GFX cards companies [21:34] tux bitcoin has been being backed by GFX cards companies [21:34] XRevan86 schestowitz: There is thought that the PRC explained to Putin that nuclear threats are not their kind of jam. [21:34] XRevan86 schestowitz: There is thought that the PRC explained to Putin that nuclear threats are not their kind of jam. [21:34] DaemonFC The only things that I have heard about that Bitcoin was thought to be really handy for was.....drugs, child pornography, and tax evasion. [21:34] DaemonFC The only things that I have heard about that Bitcoin was thought to be really handy for was.....drugs, child pornography, and tax evasion. [21:34] DaemonFC So MARISOL deserves to lose everything. [21:34] DaemonFC So MARISOL deserves to lose everything. [21:34] tux but thats a secret so dont tell it out loud [21:34] tux but thats a secret so dont tell it out loud [21:34] tux who is marisol? [21:34] tux who is marisol? [21:35] tux drugs, child pornography, and tax evasion. looks like a CSI episode [21:35] tux drugs, child pornography, and tax evasion. looks like a CSI episode [21:35] DaemonFC My sister-in-law, but humorously misspelled and in all caps because some cancer patient at her hospital left a very long review calling her incompetent and with no bedside manner. [21:35] DaemonFC My sister-in-law, but humorously misspelled and in all caps because some cancer patient at her hospital left a very long review calling her incompetent and with no bedside manner. [21:35] DaemonFC "I am beloved by all my patients! A legend in my own mind!" [21:35] DaemonFC "I am beloved by all my patients! A legend in my own mind!" [21:36] DaemonFC "I am important! I drive terrible German car! Rahahaahahaha!!!!" [21:36] DaemonFC "I am important! I drive terrible German car! Rahahaahahaha!!!!" [21:36] *guysoft42 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [21:37] tux who gives a shit about your personal shit? [21:37] tux who gives a shit about your personal shit? [21:37] tux get a shrink and talk about it with him [21:37] tux get a shrink and talk about it with him [21:38] tux or a priest or bartender [21:38] tux or a priest or bartender [21:38] DaemonFC I told my mom I named the Impala "Muffy". She asked why I call it that. I said, "In the James Bond movie, Goldeneye, he meets a contact living in Saint Petersburg who drives an old Lada that barely works that he has to start with by tapping the starter motor, and he says "It's an ugly little bitch, but it gets me where I need to go.". Bond asks, "Muffy?" because he sees a tattoo on the guy's butt cheek while he's trying to get the Lada to work, [21:38] DaemonFC I told my mom I named the Impala "Muffy". She asked why I call it that. I said, "In the James Bond movie, Goldeneye, he meets a contact living in Saint Petersburg who drives an old Lada that barely works that he has to start with by tapping the starter motor, and he says "It's an ugly little bitch, but it gets me where I need to go.". Bond asks, "Muffy?" because he sees a tattoo on the guy's butt cheek while he's trying to get the Lada to work, [21:38] DaemonFC and he says "Third wife.". [21:38] DaemonFC and he says "Third wife.". [21:39] tux Ignoring DaemonFC [21:39] tux Ignoring DaemonFC [21:39] DaemonFC My Buick will be out of the body shop in a couple days, and I drop "Muffy" off again to get some electrical and air conditioning problems sorted out. [21:39] DaemonFC My Buick will be out of the body shop in a couple days, and I drop "Muffy" off again to get some electrical and air conditioning problems sorted out. [21:39] tux fuck you and your bs [21:39] tux fuck you and your bs [21:39] tux stop spamming crap [21:39] tux stop spamming crap [21:39] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR gets a kick out of "MARISOL". [21:39] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR gets a kick out of "MARISOL". [21:40] tux fucking trump chatbots [21:40] tux fucking trump chatbots [21:40] DaemonFC Because she's sort of a code word for a vicious psychopath who defines their value solely by the accumulation of things, and ends up racking up enormous debts trying to impress other people, who don't matter. [21:40] DaemonFC Because she's sort of a code word for a vicious psychopath who defines their value solely by the accumulation of things, and ends up racking up enormous debts trying to impress other people, who don't matter. [21:41] schestowitz-TR tux: many people mute him [21:41] schestowitz-TR tux: many people mute him [21:41] schestowitz-TR he doesn't care [21:41] schestowitz-TR he doesn't care [21:41] DaemonFC I'm trying to make MARISOL a thing. Like "Karen". [21:41] DaemonFC I'm trying to make MARISOL a thing. Like "Karen". [21:42] tux i dont think its a real person [21:42] tux i dont think its a real person [21:42] DaemonFC She is. [21:42] DaemonFC She is. [21:42] tux its a spambotr [21:42] tux its a spambotr [21:42] DaemonFC Oh, me. [21:42] DaemonFC Oh, me. [21:43] TR News Ubuntu (Canonical) Will Not Help Us Get Rid of Windows (Microsoft) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/11/canonical-boosting-windows/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/11/canonical-boosting-windows/ [21:43] TR News Ubuntu (Canonical) Will Not Help Us Get Rid of Windows (Microsoft) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/11/canonical-boosting-windows/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/11/canonical-boosting-windows/ [21:43] TR Bot Ubuntu (Canonical) Will Not Help Us Get Rid of Windows (Microsoft) | Techrights [21:43] TR Bot Ubuntu (Canonical) Will Not Help Us Get Rid of Windows (Microsoft) | Techrights [21:43] DaemonFC I was just stunned at the sheer level of waste going on in that house. You could run 6 households on a normal budget on the amount of money these two waste. [21:43] DaemonFC I was just stunned at the sheer level of waste going on in that house. You could run 6 households on a normal budget on the amount of money these two waste. [21:43] DaemonFC And they're not rich, they just rack up debt, get sued, and have to work 70 hour weeks for debt service. [21:43] DaemonFC And they're not rich, they just rack up debt, get sued, and have to work 70 hour weeks for debt service. [21:44] DaemonFC Then they brag about how much and how hard they work, like that's anything to be PROUD of. Why the fuck should you want to work so you can pour the effort directly into the toilet and have no time? [21:44] DaemonFC Then they brag about how much and how hard they work, like that's anything to be PROUD of. Why the fuck should you want to work so you can pour the effort directly into the toilet and have no time? [21:45] tux putin is running out of conventional weapons [21:45] tux putin is running out of conventional weapons [21:45] DaemonFC It's a psychological decompensation method to help truly hopeless people cope. "I work hard! I have things! I work so hard I don't enjoy the things. But I have things so I can enjoy them so I can work so hard I can't enjoy them!". [21:45] DaemonFC It's a psychological decompensation method to help truly hopeless people cope. "I work hard! I have things! I work so hard I don't enjoy the things. But I have things so I can enjoy them so I can work so hard I can't enjoy them!". [21:45] DaemonFC It's not logical. It does not follow. [21:45] DaemonFC It's not logical. It does not follow. [21:46] DaemonFC I was talking about temporal paradoxes with MinceR earlier. These people are just as bad. [21:46] DaemonFC I was talking about temporal paradoxes with MinceR earlier. These people are just as bad. [21:46] DaemonFC Working and having things are irreconcilable at a certain point. [21:46] DaemonFC Working and having things are irreconcilable at a certain point. [21:47] DaemonFC You have a sports car that dry rots in your garage, because you work seven days a week, and have no time to drive it. [21:47] DaemonFC You have a sports car that dry rots in your garage, because you work seven days a week, and have no time to drive it. [21:47] DaemonFC The unexamined life. [21:47] DaemonFC The unexamined life. [21:48] DaemonFC But this is how the rich want people to think they should live. [21:48] DaemonFC But this is how the rich want people to think they should live. [21:48] DaemonFC The last thing they want is people going "If we can stretch our budget by cutting spending, then we can work less and do more things we want to do, free of debt!". [21:48] DaemonFC The last thing they want is people going "If we can stretch our budget by cutting spending, then we can work less and do more things we want to do, free of debt!". [21:49] TR News KDB already added to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_players_with_the_most_goals_in_an_association_football_game#England [21:49] TR News KDB already added to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_players_with_the_most_goals_in_an_association_football_game#England [21:49] TR Bot List of players with the most goals in an association football game - Wikipedia [21:49] TR Bot List of players with the most goals in an association football game - Wikipedia [21:50] TR News AFAIK, nobody ever scored 5 goals in one AWAY PL match https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_players_with_the_most_goals_in_an_association_football_game#England [21:50] TR News AFAIK, nobody ever scored 5 goals in one AWAY PL match https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_players_with_the_most_goals_in_an_association_football_game#England [21:50] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Is the queen back from her light duties so she can cost you an enormous amount of money to wave? [21:50] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Is the queen back from her light duties so she can cost you an enormous amount of money to wave? [21:52] tux https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1879016/ > MinceR [21:52] tux https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1879016/ > MinceR [21:52] TR Bot Mincemeat (2021) - IMDb [21:52] TR Bot Mincemeat (2021) - IMDb [21:53] tux MinceRatMeat [21:53] tux MinceRatMeat [21:54] XRevan86 https://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=nvidia-open-kernel&num=1 [21:54] XRevan86 https://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=nvidia-open-kernel&num=1 [21:54] TR Bot Transitioning To Official, Open-Source Linux GPU Kernel Driver - Phoronix [21:54] TR Bot Transitioning To Official, Open-Source Linux GPU Kernel Driver - Phoronix [21:56] tux NVIDIA finally toke linus finger off its ass [21:56] tux NVIDIA finally toke linus finger off its ass [21:57] tux that was joke [21:57] tux that was joke [21:57] DaemonFC " Over the past two decades NVIDIA has offered great Linux driver support with their proprietary driver stack" < I must be in the parallel universe where kernel panics and the computer randomly forgetting you have a keyboard means good Linux support. [21:57] DaemonFC " Over the past two decades NVIDIA has offered great Linux driver support with their proprietary driver stack" < I must be in the parallel universe where kernel panics and the computer randomly forgetting you have a keyboard means good Linux support. [21:57] DaemonFC MinceR, ^ [21:57] DaemonFC MinceR, ^ [21:57] tux XRevan86 is gona throu the book at me [21:57] tux XRevan86 is gona throu the book at me [21:57] XRevan86 Which past two decades I wonder. [21:57] XRevan86 Which past two decades I wonder. [21:58] DaemonFC " Their user-space software is remaining closed-source but as of today they have formally opened up their Linux GPU kernel modules and will be maintaining it moving forward." [21:58] DaemonFC " Their user-space software is remaining closed-source but as of today they have formally opened up their Linux GPU kernel modules and will be maintaining it moving forward." [21:58] DaemonFC So there is no end-to-end usable open source driver stack and Microsoft Larabel is just shitposting again. [21:58] DaemonFC So there is no end-to-end usable open source driver stack and Microsoft Larabel is just shitposting again. [21:59] XRevan86 DaemonFC: This is a significant move even if yet incomplete. [21:59] XRevan86 DaemonFC: This is a significant move even if yet incomplete. [21:59] TR News "In this video, we are looking at Fedora 36." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=tfEbpBkqhjI [21:59] TR News "In this video, we are looking at Fedora 36." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=tfEbpBkqhjI [21:59] TR Bot Fedora 36 Run Through - Invidious [21:59] TR Bot Fedora 36 Run Through - Invidious [21:59] tux https://i.redd.it/b8dnk9lu33631.jpg [21:59] tux https://i.redd.it/b8dnk9lu33631.jpg ● May 11 [22:00] XRevan86 I guess it's up to the nouveau folk to figure out just how useful this is. [22:00] XRevan86 I guess it's up to the nouveau folk to figure out just how useful this is. [22:00] DaemonFC It's less of the stack that other people have to figure out through reverse engineering and get wrong. [22:00] DaemonFC It's less of the stack that other people have to figure out through reverse engineering and get wrong. [22:00] DaemonFC But you won't be able to run games and stuff on it. [22:00] DaemonFC But you won't be able to run games and stuff on it. [22:00] mjg59_ XRevan86: Oh, having redistributable firmware for Turing and later is already a huge win for nouveau [22:00] mjg59_ XRevan86: Oh, having redistributable firmware for Turing and later is already a huge win for nouveau [22:00] XRevan86 mjg59_: Of course. [22:00] XRevan86 mjg59_: Of course. [22:01] XRevan86 mjg59_: What I mean is just how comparable it is to amdgpu. [22:01] XRevan86 mjg59_: What I mean is just how comparable it is to amdgpu. [22:01] XRevan86 potentially [22:01] XRevan86 potentially [22:01] mjg59_ It doesn't have a stable userland ABI [22:01] mjg59_ It doesn't have a stable userland ABI [22:01] DaemonFC The win for the user is ripping out the Nvidia card or not buying one to begin with. [22:01] DaemonFC The win for the user is ripping out the Nvidia card or not buying one to begin with. [22:01] DaemonFC And using a real solution instead. [22:01] DaemonFC And using a real solution instead. [22:01] mjg59_ So nouveau can't really just target this kernel driver [22:01] mjg59_ So nouveau can't really just target this kernel driver [22:01] mjg59_ And nor can the nouveau driver be modified to work with the closed userland driver [22:01] mjg59_ And nor can the nouveau driver be modified to work with the closed userland driver [22:01] XRevan86 mjg59_: Not *yet*. [22:01] XRevan86 mjg59_: Not *yet*. [22:01] TR News FLOSS Weekly 680: Asahi Linux on M1 Hardware - Hector Martin, Linux on Macs https://twit.tv/shows/floss-weekly/episodes/680 [22:01] TR News FLOSS Weekly 680: Asahi Linux on M1 Hardware - Hector Martin, Linux on Macs https://twit.tv/shows/floss-weekly/episodes/680 [22:01] TR Bot Asahi Linux on M1 Hardware [22:01] TR Bot Asahi Linux on M1 Hardware [22:01] DaemonFC Maybe mjg59_ is fine with fucking crap that crashes the kernel and causes the keyboard to randomly be forgotten by libinput. [22:01] DaemonFC Maybe mjg59_ is fine with fucking crap that crashes the kernel and causes the keyboard to randomly be forgotten by libinput. [22:01] DaemonFC Who knows? [22:01] DaemonFC Who knows? [22:02] mjg59_ Well, not until nvidia commit to providing a stable ABI [22:02] mjg59_ Well, not until nvidia commit to providing a stable ABI [22:02] TR News "Hello and welcome to the 466th installment of Linux in the Ham Shack." https://lhspodcast.info/2022/05/lhs-episode-466-hamanon-3/ [22:02] TR News "Hello and welcome to the 466th installment of Linux in the Ham Shack." https://lhspodcast.info/2022/05/lhs-episode-466-hamanon-3/ [22:02] TR Bot LHS Episode #466: HamAnon | Linux in the Ham Shack [22:02] TR Bot LHS Episode #466: HamAnon | Linux in the Ham Shack [22:02] mjg59_ DaemonFC: I own precisely 0 nvidia GPUs for a good reason [22:02] mjg59_ DaemonFC: I own precisely 0 nvidia GPUs for a good reason [22:02] DaemonFC mjg59_, They have done absolutely nothing so far that makes me think that they are able or willing to write stable production-quality code like AMD or Intel provide. [22:02] DaemonFC mjg59_, They have done absolutely nothing so far that makes me think that they are able or willing to write stable production-quality code like AMD or Intel provide. [22:03] TR News "NVIDIA has announced its plans for an open-source GPU driver." https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148537/linux-action-news-240/ [22:03] TR News "NVIDIA has announced its plans for an open-source GPU driver." https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148537/linux-action-news-240/ [22:03] mjg59_ Can you point to the bit where I said I thought this was good code? [22:03] mjg59_ Can you point to the bit where I said I thought this was good code? [22:03] TR Bot Linux Action News 240 | Jupiter Broadcasting [22:03] TR Bot Linux Action News 240 | Jupiter Broadcasting [22:03] mjg59_ Or are you just making things up again? [22:03] mjg59_ Or are you just making things up again? [22:03] DaemonFC Well, easing the pain of using crap is not great, no. [22:03] DaemonFC Well, easing the pain of using crap is not great, no. [22:03] DaemonFC So you actually did imply that. [22:03] DaemonFC So you actually did imply that. [22:03] DaemonFC That's like Dr. Frank-N-Furter saying he'll cure some of the symptoms, but not the disease. [22:03] DaemonFC That's like Dr. Frank-N-Furter saying he'll cure some of the symptoms, but not the disease. [22:03] TR News Christian Schaller: Why is the open source driver release from NVidia so important for Linux? https://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2022/05/11/why-is-the-open-source-driver-release-from-nvidia-so-important-for-linux/ [22:03] TR News Christian Schaller: Why is the open source driver release from NVidia so important for Linux? https://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2022/05/11/why-is-the-open-source-driver-release-from-nvidia-so-important-for-linux/ [22:04] TR Bot Why is the open source driver release from NVidia so important for Linux? | Christian F.K. Schaller [22:04] TR Bot Why is the open source driver release from NVidia so important for Linux? | Christian F.K. Schaller [22:04] XRevan86 One simple concern I have about this is that NVIDIA's GPU have (had?) a blob check, how is that issue going to be addressed? [22:04] XRevan86 One simple concern I have about this is that NVIDIA's GPU have (had?) a blob check, how is that issue going to be addressed? [22:05] CrystalMath any chance of CUDA with fully open source systems? [22:05] CrystalMath any chance of CUDA with fully open source systems? [22:06] DaemonFC Oh mjg59_ is a big fan of being locked out of the computer unless you use blessed binaries that can disable features and run malware. [22:06] DaemonFC Oh mjg59_ is a big fan of being locked out of the computer unless you use blessed binaries that can disable features and run malware. [22:06] XRevan86 "an out of tree source code kernel driver which has been tested to support CUDA usecases on datacenter GPUs" [22:06] XRevan86 "an out of tree source code kernel driver which has been tested to support CUDA usecases on datacenter GPUs" [22:06] DaemonFC So I'm sure NoVideo's signed firmware check is something he likes. [22:06] DaemonFC So I'm sure NoVideo's signed firmware check is something he likes. [22:07] XRevan86 Sounds extremely relevant to this conversation. [22:07] XRevan86 Sounds extremely relevant to this conversation. [22:07] mjg59_ XRevan86: They verify the firmware, not the driver [22:07] mjg59_ XRevan86: They verify the firmware, not the driver [22:07] TR News NVIDIA Finally Releases Open-Source Linux GPU Kernel Modules Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164747 [22:07] TR News NVIDIA Finally Releases Open-Source Linux GPU Kernel Modules Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164747 [22:07] TR Bot NVIDIA Finally Releases Open-Source Linux GPU Kernel Modules | Tux Machines [22:07] TR Bot NVIDIA Finally Releases Open-Source Linux GPU Kernel Modules | Tux Machines [22:07] mjg59_ XRevan86: Previously it was possible to extract the firmware from nvidia's closed driver, but nvidia refused permission to redistribute it [22:07] mjg59_ XRevan86: Previously it was possible to extract the firmware from nvidia's closed driver, but nvidia refused permission to redistribute it [22:07] DaemonFC So it was something you could provide a script for and have the user do. [22:07] DaemonFC So it was something you could provide a script for and have the user do. [22:08] DaemonFC I've been there before, with another infamously crap company. Broadcom. [22:08] DaemonFC I've been there before, with another infamously crap company. Broadcom. [22:08] DaemonFC They were a bunch of fucking jerks too, like Nvidia. [22:08] DaemonFC They were a bunch of fucking jerks too, like Nvidia. [22:08] DaemonFC Again, avoid if possible. [22:08] DaemonFC Again, avoid if possible. [22:09] DaemonFC Unless a free laptop that just happened to have an Nvidia GPU in it landed in my lap from a contest or something, I would not even attempt to use it, or buy one. [22:09] DaemonFC Unless a free laptop that just happened to have an Nvidia GPU in it landed in my lap from a contest or something, I would not even attempt to use it, or buy one. [22:09] XRevan86 mjg59_: Ah. [22:09] DaemonFC The only reason I ever had an iPod was because I got one in a contest on the radio and libimobiledevice happened to send MP3 files to it. [22:09] XRevan86 mjg59_: Ah. [22:09] DaemonFC The only reason I ever had an iPod was because I got one in a contest on the radio and libimobiledevice happened to send MP3 files to it. [22:11] TR News NVIDIA Releases Open-Source GPU Kernel Modules Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164748 [22:11] TR News NVIDIA Releases Open-Source GPU Kernel Modules Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164748 [22:11] TR Bot NVIDIA Releases Open-Source GPU Kernel Modules | Tux Machines [22:11] TR Bot NVIDIA Releases Open-Source GPU Kernel Modules | Tux Machines [22:11] XRevan86 mjg59_: "the Nouveau specific firmware that NVidia currently releases" <- Does that mean that the problem has been already solved, and I simply never got the news? [22:11] XRevan86 mjg59_: "the Nouveau specific firmware that NVidia currently releases" <- Does that mean that the problem has been already solved, and I simply never got the news? [22:13] DaemonFC It's crazy to buy shit from Apple or Nvidia and expect that it's going to work when they've never been anything but antagonistic and hostile to their users, and especially to people trying to use it with Free Software. [22:13] DaemonFC It's crazy to buy shit from Apple or Nvidia and expect that it's going to work when they've never been anything but antagonistic and hostile to their users, and especially to people trying to use it with Free Software. [22:14] TR News IDG and ZDNet are infested with Microsoft moles disguised as "journalists". Is SPAM the new "news"? [22:14] TR News IDG and ZDNet are infested with Microsoft moles disguised as "journalists". Is SPAM the new "news"? [22:14] TR News Audiocasts/Shows/Videos: Linux Action News, Linux in the Ham Shack, FLOSS Weekly 680, Fedora 36, and Red Hat Summit Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164749 [22:14] TR News Audiocasts/Shows/Videos: Linux Action News, Linux in the Ham Shack, FLOSS Weekly 680, Fedora 36, and Red Hat Summit Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164749 [22:14] TR Bot Audiocasts/Shows/Videos: Linux Action News, Linux in the Ham Shack, FLOSS Weekly 680, Fedora 36, and Red Hat Summit | Tux Machines [22:14] TR Bot Audiocasts/Shows/Videos: Linux Action News, Linux in the Ham Shack, FLOSS Weekly 680, Fedora 36, and Red Hat Summit | Tux Machines [22:14] DaemonFC "I asked about FreeBSD support given NVIDIA's long-present BSD support with their proprietary driver and whether this open-sourced code was portable enough to work on any of the BSDs. I was simply told that for R515, it's Linux-only." [22:14] DaemonFC "I asked about FreeBSD support given NVIDIA's long-present BSD support with their proprietary driver and whether this open-sourced code was portable enough to work on any of the BSDs. I was simply told that for R515, it's Linux-only." [22:14] DaemonFC LOL [22:14] DaemonFC LOL [22:15] DaemonFC And of course they'll obfuscate the "open source" driver so to anyone without inside information it's incoherent, indecipherable, and gibberish. [22:15] DaemonFC And of course they'll obfuscate the "open source" driver so to anyone without inside information it's incoherent, indecipherable, and gibberish. [22:15] DaemonFC They don't even have to rip a page out of a playbook for that, because it's their playbook. [22:15] DaemonFC They don't even have to rip a page out of a playbook for that, because it's their playbook. [22:15] mjg59_ It still references internal Jira tickets, I don't see any attempt to obfuscate it [22:15] mjg59_ It still references internal Jira tickets, I don't see any attempt to obfuscate it [22:16] DaemonFC You'll be lucky if it's "only" undocumented and has no comments. [22:16] DaemonFC You'll be lucky if it's "only" undocumented and has no comments. [22:16] DaemonFC If you're really unlucky, they'll run it through a preprocessor too, and in hex. [22:16] DaemonFC If you're really unlucky, they'll run it through a preprocessor too, and in hex. [22:16] DaemonFC Like "NV", [22:16] DaemonFC Like "NV", [22:16] mjg59_ It has comments [22:16] mjg59_ It has comments [22:16] DaemonFC They just want a broken unusable stub that is only good for foisting their blob on you. [22:16] DaemonFC They just want a broken unusable stub that is only good for foisting their blob on you. [22:17] mjg59_ It's really not hard to look at the code [22:17] mjg59_ It's really not hard to look at the code [22:17] DaemonFC Until you do that, you have basic video so you can get around to installing the blob. [22:17] DaemonFC Until you do that, you have basic video so you can get around to installing the blob. [22:17] mjg59_ XRevan86: My understanding is that that was only the firmware required for hardware init, not for stuff like reclocking (otherwise the GPU just runs at the slowest clock) [22:17] mjg59_ XRevan86: My understanding is that that was only the firmware required for hardware init, not for stuff like reclocking (otherwise the GPU just runs at the slowest clock) [22:17] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164750 [22:17] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164750 [22:17] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [22:17] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [22:18] DaemonFC Running at the slowest clock speed is the safest choice if you figure that your hardware will be unsuitable for anything but basic video on the way to installing malware blobs. [22:18] DaemonFC Running at the slowest clock speed is the safest choice if you figure that your hardware will be unsuitable for anything but basic video on the way to installing malware blobs. [22:18] DaemonFC At least that way the complete piece of shit shouldn't overheat. [22:18] DaemonFC At least that way the complete piece of shit shouldn't overheat. [22:18] XRevan86 mjg59_: Very helpful of them. [22:18] XRevan86 mjg59_: Very helpful of them. [22:20] DaemonFC There's a reason why things are designed the way they are. BMW designs their coolant systems to fail after about 7 years so the engine blows up and is financially impossible to justify fixing because it's so warped. [22:20] DaemonFC There's a reason why things are designed the way they are. BMW designs their coolant systems to fail after about 7 years so the engine blows up and is financially impossible to justify fixing because it's so warped. [22:20] DaemonFC Nvidia designs their "open source" stuff to be completely sabotaged as a form of soft fascism to steer people towards the blob. [22:20] DaemonFC Nvidia designs their "open source" stuff to be completely sabotaged as a form of soft fascism to steer people towards the blob. [22:21] *SkywaveC3 (~SkywaveC3@svp6nvmiuarba.irc) has joined #techrights [22:21] *SkywaveC3 (~SkywaveC3@svp6nvmiuarba.irc) has joined #techrights [22:21] *Skywave has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:21] *Skywave has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:32] TR News Python Software Foundation News: The 2022 Python Language Summit https://pyfound.blogspot.com/2022/05/the-2022-python-language-summit_01678898482.html Source: pyfound [22:32] TR News Python Software Foundation News: The 2022 Python Language Summit https://pyfound.blogspot.com/2022/05/the-2022-python-language-summit_01678898482.html Source: pyfound [22:32] TR Bot Python Software Foundation News: The 2022 Python Language Summit [22:32] TR Bot Python Software Foundation News: The 2022 Python Language Summit [22:33] MinceR 11 225712 < DaemonFC> " Over the past two decades NVIDIA has offered great Linux driver support with their proprietary driver stack" < I must be in the parallel universe where kernel panics and the computer randomly forgetting you have a keyboard means good Linux support. [22:33] MinceR 11 225712 < DaemonFC> " Over the past two decades NVIDIA has offered great Linux driver support with their proprietary driver stack" < I must be in the parallel universe where kernel panics and the computer randomly forgetting you have a keyboard means good Linux support. [22:33] MinceR it's in line with what you can generally expect from the IT industry [22:33] MinceR it's in line with what you can generally expect from the IT industry [22:34] DaemonFC A generous helping of Engrish. [22:34] DaemonFC A generous helping of Engrish. [22:35] TR News A Federal Hearing about Rights under GPL Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164751 [22:35] TR News A Federal Hearing about Rights under GPL Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164751 [22:35] TR Bot A Federal Hearing about Rights under GPL | Tux Machines [22:35] TR Bot A Federal Hearing about Rights under GPL | Tux Machines [22:36] TR News 7 Great New Features Coming To Thunderbird 102 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164752 [22:36] TR News 7 Great New Features Coming To Thunderbird 102 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164752 [22:36] TR Bot 7 Great New Features Coming To Thunderbird 102 | Tux Machines [22:36] TR Bot 7 Great New Features Coming To Thunderbird 102 | Tux Machines [22:37] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@tfn9zfd6gs4qu.irc) has joined #techrights [22:37] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@tfn9zfd6gs4qu.irc) has joined #techrights [22:37] *SkywaveC3 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:37] *SkywaveC3 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:38] TR News Gulags Flutter 3 adds support for macOS and Linux desktop apps https://techcrunch.com/2022/05/11/googles-flutter-3-adds-support-for-macos-and-linux-desktop-apps/ https://9to5google.com/2022/05/11/flutter-3-linux-macos-apps-dynamic-theme-material-you/ [22:38] TR News Gulags Flutter 3 adds support for macOS and Linux desktop apps https://techcrunch.com/2022/05/11/googles-flutter-3-adds-support-for-macos-and-linux-desktop-apps/ https://9to5google.com/2022/05/11/flutter-3-linux-macos-apps-dynamic-theme-material-you/ [22:38] TR Bot Flutter 3 adds support for macOS and Linux desktop apps TechCrunch [22:38] TR Bot Flutter 3 adds support for macOS and Linux desktop apps TechCrunch [22:38] TR Bot 3 brings Linux and macOS apps, Material You, more - 9to5Google [22:38] TR Bot 3 brings Linux and macOS apps, Material You, more - 9to5Google [22:39] TR News Ubuntu Unity 22.04 is a Linux desktop distribution thats as productive as it is elegant Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164754 [22:39] TR News Ubuntu Unity 22.04 is a Linux desktop distribution thats as productive as it is elegant Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164754 [22:39] TR Bot Ubuntu Unity 22.04 is a Linux desktop distribution thats as productive as it is elegant | Tux Machines [22:39] TR Bot Ubuntu Unity 22.04 is a Linux desktop distribution thats as productive as it is elegant | Tux Machines [22:39] bnchs MinceR, i have never used their nvidia proprietary drivers, because i never had nvidia [22:39] bnchs MinceR, i have never used their nvidia proprietary drivers, because i never had nvidia [22:39] bnchs but i'm pretty sure all the stability issues nvidia users report with linux is the driver's fault [22:39] bnchs but i'm pretty sure all the stability issues nvidia users report with linux is the driver's fault [22:39] bnchs so distributions have to blacklist the module [22:39] bnchs so distributions have to blacklist the module [22:40] XRevan86 schestowitz: https://nitter.net/nexta_tv/status/1523588963075690497 [22:40] XRevan86 schestowitz: https://nitter.net/nexta_tv/status/1523588963075690497 [22:40] TR Bot NEXTA (@nexta_tv): "Vladimir #Medinsky was asked if he would congratulate the #Ukrainian negotiating delegation on Victory Day. He replied: "Only after we have defeated them"." | nitter [22:40] TR Bot NEXTA (@nexta_tv): "Vladimir #Medinsky was asked if he would congratulate the #Ukrainian negotiating delegation on Victory Day. He replied: "Only after we have defeated them"." | nitter [22:41] XRevan86 Vladimir Medinsky is head of the Russian delegation in negotiations with Ukraine. [22:41] XRevan86 Vladimir Medinsky is head of the Russian delegation in negotiations with Ukraine. [22:41] DaemonFC On paper, anyway. [22:41] DaemonFC On paper, anyway. [22:42] DaemonFC Short of surrendering their entire country, it's unclear what the Russians are willing to negotiate with Ukraine. [22:42] DaemonFC Short of surrendering their entire country, it's unclear what the Russians are willing to negotiate with Ukraine. [22:42] TR News Best Arch-based Linux Distros Of 2022 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164755 [22:42] TR News Best Arch-based Linux Distros Of 2022 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164755 [22:42] TR Bot Best Arch-based Linux Distros Of 2022 | Tux Machines [22:42] TR Bot Best Arch-based Linux Distros Of 2022 | Tux Machines [22:42] MinceR bnchs: depends on what the user wants [22:42] MinceR bnchs: depends on what the user wants [22:43] MinceR i.e. fast graphics with all the bells and whistles and instability or possibly slower and/or less featureful graphics with possibly more stability [22:43] MinceR i.e. fast graphics with all the bells and whistles and instability or possibly slower and/or less featureful graphics with possibly more stability [22:43] TR News Public Knowledge Cheers Senate Confirmation of Alvaro Bedoya As FTC Commissioner - Public Knowledge https://publicknowledge.org/public-knowledge-cheers-senate-confirmation-of-alvaro-bedoya-as-ftc-commissioner/ Source: publicknowledge [22:43] TR News Public Knowledge Cheers Senate Confirmation of Alvaro Bedoya As FTC Commissioner - Public Knowledge https://publicknowledge.org/public-knowledge-cheers-senate-confirmation-of-alvaro-bedoya-as-ftc-commissioner/ Source: publicknowledge [22:43] TR Bot Public Knowledge Cheers Senate Confirmation of Alvaro Bedoya As FTC Commissioner - Public Knowledge [22:43] TR Bot Public Knowledge Cheers Senate Confirmation of Alvaro Bedoya As FTC Commissioner - Public Knowledge [22:43] MinceR things like this make me glad i can afford to keep multiple laptops and thus separate concerns [22:43] MinceR things like this make me glad i can afford to keep multiple laptops and thus separate concerns [22:43] TR News "It is closer to Apache Lucene than to Elasticsearch or Apache Solr in the sense it is not an off-the-shelf search engine server, but rather a crate that can be used to build such a search engine." https://medevel.com/tantivy-search/ [22:43] TR News "It is closer to Apache Lucene than to Elasticsearch or Apache Solr in the sense it is not an off-the-shelf search engine server, but rather a crate that can be used to build such a search engine." https://medevel.com/tantivy-search/ [22:43] TR Bot Tantivy is a lightweight full-text search engine [22:43] TR Bot Tantivy is a lightweight full-text search engine [22:44] TR News Improved Delivery Time for Librem 5 USA: May 2022 Update https://puri.sm/posts/improved-delivery-time-for-librem-5-usa-may-2022-update/ [22:44] TR News Improved Delivery Time for Librem 5 USA: May 2022 Update https://puri.sm/posts/improved-delivery-time-for-librem-5-usa-may-2022-update/ [22:44] TR Bot Improved Delivery Time for Librem 5 USA: May 2022 Update Purism [22:44] TR Bot Improved Delivery Time for Librem 5 USA: May 2022 Update Purism [22:46] XRevan86 "instead of working towards peace" <- So that's just it, it's not the kind of war where it's even possible to do that. [22:46] XRevan86 "instead of working towards peace" <- So that's just it, it's not the kind of war where it's even possible to do that. [22:48] TR News Canonical is promoting Windows now http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164704#comment-33625 [22:48] TR News Canonical is promoting Windows now http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164704#comment-33625 [22:48] TR Bot Canonical/Ubuntu Leftovers | Tux Machines [22:48] TR Bot Canonical/Ubuntu Leftovers | Tux Machines [22:48] XRevan86 Because Russia invaded with a goal, that goal being a take-over of Ukraine, and it's not going away until it can get as close to it as possible. [22:48] XRevan86 Because Russia invaded with a goal, that goal being a take-over of Ukraine, and it's not going away until it can get as close to it as possible. [22:48] XRevan86 Though I guess "going away" is not the right choice of words. [22:48] XRevan86 Though I guess "going away" is not the right choice of words. [22:48] TR News "At the station, I asked for a reservation for the train to Barcelona and they actually had some available. The train was punctual and the next chapter of my journey began without any problems." https://blog.jabberhead.tk/2022/05/11/europe-trip-journal-entry-9-cable-cars/ [22:48] TR News "At the station, I asked for a reservation for the train to Barcelona and they actually had some available. The train was punctual and the next chapter of my journey began without any problems." https://blog.jabberhead.tk/2022/05/11/europe-trip-journal-entry-9-cable-cars/ [22:48] TR Bot Europe Trip Journal Entry 9: Cable Cars vanitasvitae's blog [22:48] TR Bot Europe Trip Journal Entry 9: Cable Cars vanitasvitae's blog [22:48] TR News xkcd: Selection Bias https://xkcd.com/2618/ Source: xkcd [22:48] TR News xkcd: Selection Bias https://xkcd.com/2618/ Source: xkcd [22:48] TR Bot Selection Bias [22:48] TR Bot Selection Bias [22:49] TR News US Begins Massive Crackdown On Sharing Sites - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=NCynZjB3Yo4 Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia [22:49] TR News US Begins Massive Crackdown On Sharing Sites - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=NCynZjB3Yo4 Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia [22:49] TR Bot US Begins Massive Crackdown On Piracy Sites - Invidious [22:49] TR Bot US Begins Massive Crackdown On Piracy Sites - Invidious [22:51] activelow interesting, reviewing further packages, since options are limited without gtk/x11.. fbida remains for framebuffer console [22:51] activelow interesting, reviewing further packages, since options are limited without gtk/x11.. fbida remains for framebuffer console [22:51] activelow here we go... it links against libdrm for no obvious reason [22:51] activelow here we go... it links against libdrm for no obvious reason [22:52] activelow and fbida is the last remaining utility to view images (without converting them to sixels) [22:52] activelow and fbida is the last remaining utility to view images (without converting them to sixels) [22:52] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164756 [22:52] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164756 [22:52] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [22:52] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [22:52] activelow access to /dev/fb0 does not require libdrm, at least it should be optional [22:52] activelow access to /dev/fb0 does not require libdrm, at least it should be optional [22:53] activelow fbida is the last remaining wrongdoer... either i patch it to remove libdrm dependency, or i will convert all images to sixels [22:53] activelow fbida is the last remaining wrongdoer... either i patch it to remove libdrm dependency, or i will convert all images to sixels [22:53] XRevan86 schestowitz: So even though the intentions of some actors are not entirely clear, whether they want peace (what kind of peace) or to win the war to the max, it is not actually a discussion: peace-talks don't exist per-se. [22:53] XRevan86 schestowitz: So even though the intentions of some actors are not entirely clear, whether they want peace (what kind of peace) or to win the war to the max, it is not actually a discussion: peace-talks don't exist per-se. [22:55] XRevan86 Russia calls for peace. #define peace surrender [22:55] XRevan86 Russia calls for peace. #define peace surrender [22:55] activelow i suspect there is a sidechannel hidden somewhere, within in image libraries down to kernel drm direct-rendering-manager [22:55] activelow i suspect there is a sidechannel hidden somewhere, within in image libraries down to kernel drm direct-rendering-manager [22:56] activelow too i did cleanup w3m browser dependencies, which got sixel support, it doesn't need to link against any libdrm/imglib or whatever... image data is converted into sixels and rasterized into virtual terminal tty [22:56] activelow too i did cleanup w3m browser dependencies, which got sixel support, it doesn't need to link against any libdrm/imglib or whatever... image data is converted into sixels and rasterized into virtual terminal tty [22:57] *immibis has quit (connection closed) [22:57] *immibis has quit (connection closed) [22:57] *immibis_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [22:57] *immibis (~hexchat@acad4bt9wne9w.irc) has joined #techrights [22:57] *immibis (~hexchat@acad4bt9wne9w.irc) has joined #techrights [22:57] *immibis_ (~hexchat@62.156.144.218) has joined #techrights [22:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 18.91 k/sec., IPFS upstream 41.01 average k/sec., average swarm size 381.95 [22:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 18.91 k/sec., IPFS upstream 41.01 average k/sec., average swarm size 381.95 [22:59] TR News Links 11/05/2022: NVIDIA Shifting a Bit to Software Freedom | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/11/nvidia-down-yours/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/11/nvidia-down-yours/ [22:59] TR News Links 11/05/2022: NVIDIA Shifting a Bit to Software Freedom | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/11/nvidia-down-yours/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/11/nvidia-down-yours/ [22:59] TR Bot Links 11/05/2022: NVIDIA Shifting a Bit to Software Freedom | Techrights [22:59] TR Bot Links 11/05/2022: NVIDIA Shifting a Bit to Software Freedom | Techrights [22:59] TR News Software: Lios, Tantivy, and Orange Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164757 [22:59] TR News Software: Lios, Tantivy, and Orange Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164757 [22:59] TR Bot Software: Lios, Tantivy, and Orange | Tux Machines [22:59] TR Bot Software: Lios, Tantivy, and Orange | Tux Machines [22:59] TR News Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164758 [22:59] TR News Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164758 [22:59] TR Bot Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [22:59] TR Bot Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [22:59] activelow ok, i'll wipe fbida too, and blacklist libdrm... and convert all images into sixels [22:59] activelow ok, i'll wipe fbida too, and blacklist libdrm... and convert all images into sixels ● May 11 [23:00] XRevan86 schestowitz: "even leftists in ukraine say this" <- Unfortunately, it means that those "leftists" ye mentioned are hypocrites. [23:00] XRevan86 schestowitz: "even leftists in ukraine say this" <- Unfortunately, it means that those "leftists" ye mentioned are hypocrites. [23:01] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:01] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:02] XRevan86 "us uses them as cannon fodder" <- When it comes to Ukrainian lives, civilian and military, the help the US gives is going to save lives. [23:02] XRevan86 "us uses them as cannon fodder" <- When it comes to Ukrainian lives, civilian and military, the help the US gives is going to save lives. [23:02] MinceR https://thecodinglove.com/when-i-use-a-library-without-reading-its-documentation-3 [23:02] MinceR https://thecodinglove.com/when-i-use-a-library-without-reading-its-documentation-3 [23:02] TR Bot When I use a library without reading its documentation | The Coding Love - Programmer humor: gifs, memes, jokes [23:02] TR Bot When I use a library without reading its documentation | The Coding Love - Programmer humor: gifs, memes, jokes [23:02] XRevan86 When it comes to Russian military lives not so much of course. [23:02] XRevan86 When it comes to Russian military lives not so much of course. [23:05] XRevan86 The war would have continued regardless of whether the US had given Ukraine help. [23:05] XRevan86 The war would have continued regardless of whether the US had given Ukraine help. [23:09] XRevan86 schestowitz: Also I'd like to know the names of those "leftists" and hopefully they aren't "Shariy" or "Kyva". [23:09] XRevan86 schestowitz: Also I'd like to know the names of those "leftists" and hopefully they aren't "Shariy" or "Kyva". [23:12] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [23:12] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [23:13] activelow another troublemaker is mupdf which i hoped for can remain to view PDF on framebuffer console, already downgraded this one to a 10year old version to remove undesireable dependencies... [23:13] activelow another troublemaker is mupdf which i hoped for can remain to view PDF on framebuffer console, already downgraded this one to a 10year old version to remove undesireable dependencies... [23:16] bnchs activelow, mupdf has 2 versions though [23:16] bnchs activelow, mupdf has 2 versions though [23:18] activelow bnchs: which versions? [23:18] activelow bnchs: which versions? [23:18] bnchs opengl renderer one [23:18] bnchs opengl renderer one [23:18] bnchs and x11 (i think) one [23:18] bnchs and x11 (i think) one [23:19] activelow i see, i thought it used /dev/fb0 (fbcon)... [23:19] activelow i see, i thought it used /dev/fb0 (fbcon)... [23:19] activelow seems the dependencies of image viewers always, lock into APIs of proprietary/malicious components, such as the GPU crap inside kernel (DRM), X11 which is related [23:19] activelow seems the dependencies of image viewers always, lock into APIs of proprietary/malicious components, such as the GPU crap inside kernel (DRM), X11 which is related [23:19] bnchs but it can be written to render to anything [23:19] bnchs but it can be written to render to anything [23:20] bnchs and because of that, it got ported to consoles that don't support either of those APIs like the playstation portable and nintendo wii [23:20] bnchs and because of that, it got ported to consoles that don't support either of those APIs like the playstation portable and nintendo wii [23:20] activelow i can convert images into sixels, convert pdf into text (pdf sucks anyway), libsdl1 can use fbcon driver... so i won't need any opengl,x11 proprietary/malicious APIs anymore [23:20] activelow i can convert images into sixels, convert pdf into text (pdf sucks anyway), libsdl1 can use fbcon driver... so i won't need any opengl,x11 proprietary/malicious APIs anymore [23:21] activelow meaning i can keep the entire multimedia fun, audio/video/images _without_ any libdrm/opengl/x11 [23:21] activelow meaning i can keep the entire multimedia fun, audio/video/images _without_ any libdrm/opengl/x11 [23:22] activelow which is how it should be, on *nix [23:22] activelow which is how it should be, on *nix [23:22] activelow next on todo is vt-switchign with mplayer-1.4/libsdl1/fbcon... prboom/libsdl1/fbcon already works absolutely flawless [23:22] activelow next on todo is vt-switchign with mplayer-1.4/libsdl1/fbcon... prboom/libsdl1/fbcon already works absolutely flawless [23:23] activelow too i'll check if i can pick a 256color mode for /dev/fb0, because 256 color palette is sufficient, images look _very_ good, and reducing framebuffer to 8bit(16bit) color palette is _much_ faster [23:23] activelow too i'll check if i can pick a 256color mode for /dev/fb0, because 256 color palette is sufficient, images look _very_ good, and reducing framebuffer to 8bit(16bit) color palette is _much_ faster [23:24] activelow i'll render sixels into 256 colors only, no noticable difference compared to 16bit or 32bit truecolor [23:24] activelow i'll render sixels into 256 colors only, no noticable difference compared to 16bit or 32bit truecolor [23:25] activelow XRevan86: "ukraine vs russia" is a _propaganda_ narrative of a pseudo-intellectual self-proclaimed elite [23:25] activelow XRevan86: "ukraine vs russia" is a _propaganda_ narrative of a pseudo-intellectual self-proclaimed elite [23:25] XRevan86 activelow: Maybe I'm imagining things. [23:25] XRevan86 activelow: Maybe I'm imagining things. [23:26] activelow the real reasons are different ones, which is the oil/gas business among other minor details [23:26] activelow the real reasons are different ones, which is the oil/gas business among other minor details [23:27] activelow XRevan86: yes, although it is terrifying, the portrayal of this conflict on TV is a propaganda media spectacle [23:27] activelow XRevan86: yes, although it is terrifying, the portrayal of this conflict on TV is a propaganda media spectacle [23:28] activelow to indoctrinate the population, to believe any bullshit those pseudo-intellectuals on TV spout all day [23:28] activelow to indoctrinate the population, to believe any bullshit those pseudo-intellectuals on TV spout all day [23:29] XRevan86 activelow: Ye keep forgetting that I live in a different country than you. [23:29] XRevan86 activelow: Ye keep forgetting that I live in a different country than you. [23:29] activelow XRevan86: in Leipzig, tens of thousands of soviet soldiers lived in military bases, and your President studied a few kilometers away from my university [23:29] activelow XRevan86: in Leipzig, tens of thousands of soviet soldiers lived in military bases, and your President studied a few kilometers away from my university [23:30] activelow my mother studied in Charkiv, father travelled to Russia regularly (coal mining business)... russia and ukraine are not that far away [23:30] activelow my mother studied in Charkiv, father travelled to Russia regularly (coal mining business)... russia and ukraine are not that far away [23:31] XRevan86 activelow: TV looks like this: https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1521324392197804032 [23:31] XRevan86 activelow: TV looks like this: https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1521324392197804032 [23:31] TR Bot Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Messaging on Russian state TV: they want the West to know that an average Russian person is even more bloodthirsty than Putin himself, that they want Russia's invasion of Ukraine to continue and are disappointed that world leaders visiting Zelensky weren't killed along with him." | nitter [23:31] TR Bot Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Messaging on Russian state TV: they want the West to know that an average Russian person is even more bloodthirsty than Putin himself, that they want Russia's invasion of Ukraine to continue and are disappointed that world leaders visiting Zelensky weren't killed along with him." | nitter [23:31] activelow Ukrainian students studied at Telecom university... [23:31] activelow Ukrainian students studied at Telecom university... [23:31] XRevan86 I can't disagree with that it's a propaganda media spectacle. [23:31] XRevan86 I can't disagree with that it's a propaganda media spectacle. [23:32] MinceR lol @ russians being bloodthirsty [23:32] MinceR lol @ russians being bloodthirsty [23:32] MinceR is that why they put protesters away? [23:32] MinceR is that why they put protesters away? [23:32] activelow meaning, if those propaganda prostitues on TV argue i should side with any of a war against Ukraine or Russia i rather aim elsewhere, certainly not some russian or ukrainian [23:32] activelow meaning, if those propaganda prostitues on TV argue i should side with any of a war against Ukraine or Russia i rather aim elsewhere, certainly not some russian or ukrainian [23:33] XRevan86 MinceR: Cherry picking can make any narrative possible. [23:33] XRevan86 MinceR: Cherry picking can make any narrative possible. [23:33] activelow they frame this into "Ukraine good" "Russia bad"... remember... London business involved with Oil/Gas in Ukraine? [23:33] activelow they frame this into "Ukraine good" "Russia bad"... remember... London business involved with Oil/Gas in Ukraine? [23:34] activelow Burisma Bidler, Westinghouse electric fiddling in Ukrainian nuclear plants... a long list of "minor" details to ask questions about. [23:34] activelow Burisma Bidler, Westinghouse electric fiddling in Ukrainian nuclear plants... a long list of "minor" details to ask questions about. [23:34] XRevan86 activelow: There was nothing worse that happened to the transit of gas through Ukraine than this war. [23:34] XRevan86 activelow: There was nothing worse that happened to the transit of gas through Ukraine than this war. [23:35] activelow i don't trust this comedian from Kiev at all [23:35] activelow i don't trust this comedian from Kiev at all [23:35] XRevan86 Don't trust away, see if I care. [23:35] XRevan86 Don't trust away, see if I care. [23:36] activelow furthermore, the eastern regions in Ukraine, suffered from industrial decline... while Kiev became a boom town for hipsters... funded with dollars [23:36] activelow furthermore, the eastern regions in Ukraine, suffered from industrial decline... while Kiev became a boom town for hipsters... funded with dollars [23:36] XRevan86 Not going to change anything. [23:36] XRevan86 Not going to change anything. [23:36] XRevan86 furthermore, the eastern regions in Russia, suffered from industrial decline... while Moscow became a boom town for hipsters... funded with dollars [23:36] XRevan86 furthermore, the eastern regions in Russia, suffered from industrial decline... while Moscow became a boom town for hipsters... funded with dollars [23:37] activelow if population in eastern-ukraine was angry, and seeked association with Russia hoping for economic progress, i understand this, and too the Minsk agreement insisted on free federal elections [23:37] activelow if population in eastern-ukraine was angry, and seeked association with Russia hoping for economic progress, i understand this, and too the Minsk agreement insisted on free federal elections [23:37] activelow XRevan86: remember "drain the swapm"? [23:37] activelow XRevan86: remember "drain the swapm"? [23:37] *matey (~matey@xv9cfpnhn2ihe.irc) has joined #techrights [23:37] *matey (~matey@xv9cfpnhn2ihe.irc) has joined #techrights [23:37] activelow swamp [23:37] activelow swamp [23:38] XRevan86 activelow: Especially in 2022, where they seeked through Russia bombing them and then occupying. [23:38] XRevan86 activelow: Especially in 2022, where they seeked through Russia bombing them and then occupying. [23:38] activelow and yes, occasionally some russian snobs and their luxury is shown on tv [23:38] activelow and yes, occasionally some russian snobs and their luxury is shown on tv [23:39] activelow anyway, most of those heavy tanks presented on tv, were considered useless by many military experts [23:39] activelow anyway, most of those heavy tanks presented on tv, were considered useless by many military experts [23:39] XRevan86 That luxury has no relevance to the general prosperity of Russia. [23:39] XRevan86 That luxury has no relevance to the general prosperity of Russia. [23:40] XRevan86 only as a demonstration where all the hopes for prosperity went [23:40] XRevan86 only as a demonstration where all the hopes for prosperity went [23:40] activelow XRevan86: i do not follow the argument the investment of billions into oil/gas business, mining, pipelines were some cash grabbing scam [23:40] activelow XRevan86: i do not follow the argument the investment of billions into oil/gas business, mining, pipelines were some cash grabbing scam [23:41] activelow the "renewable energy" of EU is a propaganda scam [23:41] activelow the "renewable energy" of EU is a propaganda scam [23:41] matey i hope putlin leaves pereyaslav alone, i think its my favourite place in europe now [23:41] matey i hope putlin leaves pereyaslav alone, i think its my favourite place in europe now [23:41] activelow whatever EU was supposed to be... currently energy prices explode in germany, not in Italy or France for example... sun is shining [23:41] activelow whatever EU was supposed to be... currently energy prices explode in germany, not in Italy or France for example... sun is shining [23:41] activelow no heating required there [23:41] activelow no heating required there [23:42] XRevan86 activelow: "and seeked association with Russia hoping for economic progress" <- Get a closer look at Mariupol and Kherson. What they were, what they are now and what they are going to be. [23:42] XRevan86 activelow: "and seeked association with Russia hoping for economic progress" <- Get a closer look at Mariupol and Kherson. What they were, what they are now and what they are going to be. [23:42] activelow XRevan86: whatever was hidden in Bunkers below Mariupol, i hope it will be gone forever [23:42] activelow XRevan86: whatever was hidden in Bunkers below Mariupol, i hope it will be gone forever [23:43] XRevan86 Especially Mariupol, because it was a city founded around Azovstal', and if ye know anything about this war, ye know that it's being erased from the face of this Earth. [23:43] XRevan86 Especially Mariupol, because it was a city founded around Azovstal', and if ye know anything about this war, ye know that it's being erased from the face of this Earth. [23:43] activelow Ukraine was the third largest nuclear power globally, and who knows what else this clown from kiev had access to [23:43] activelow Ukraine was the third largest nuclear power globally, and who knows what else this clown from kiev had access to [23:43] XRevan86 activelow: Ye mean the refugees and the remains of the Azov battalion? [23:43] XRevan86 activelow: Ye mean the refugees and the remains of the Azov battalion? [23:43] activelow some Reports from Sankt Petersburg, presented evidence, Ukraine ordered drones asking to equip those with dispensers for chemicals [23:43] activelow some Reports from Sankt Petersburg, presented evidence, Ukraine ordered drones asking to equip those with dispensers for chemicals [23:43] matey im not tracking the war closely, im more immediately concerned with broader implications [23:43] matey im not tracking the war closely, im more immediately concerned with broader implications [23:44] XRevan86 Some of them escaped with the help of the Red Cross and the UN, so no, they won't be gone forever. [23:44] XRevan86 Some of them escaped with the help of the Red Cross and the UN, so no, they won't be gone forever. [23:44] matey thats good, even if it sounds too much like marisol [23:44] matey thats good, even if it sounds too much like marisol [23:44] activelow ballistic missiles, who knows, i don't trust this clown from kiev [23:44] activelow ballistic missiles, who knows, i don't trust this clown from kiev [23:44] activelow and i trust EU/NATO/USA even less [23:44] activelow and i trust EU/NATO/USA even less [23:44] XRevan86 I only entrust nuclear weaponry to Putin. [23:44] XRevan86 I only entrust nuclear weaponry to Putin. [23:45] XRevan86 He's a stable guy. [23:45] XRevan86 He's a stable guy. [23:45] XRevan86 He won't just start a war on a whim. [23:45] XRevan86 He won't just start a war on a whim. [23:45] matey when does putlin outweigh trump on the absolute shit scale? [23:45] matey when does putlin outweigh trump on the absolute shit scale? [23:45] activelow Putin and his german friends, yes [23:45] activelow Putin and his german friends, yes [23:46] matey trump may be the worst president in the history of the usa. okay-- but the world? hes already outclassed by stalin by an order of magnitude [23:46] matey trump may be the worst president in the history of the usa. okay-- but the world? hes already outclassed by stalin by an order of magnitude [23:46] XRevan86 matey: I haven't been Trump wield similiar power, so hard to tell. [23:46] XRevan86 matey: I haven't been Trump wield similiar power, so hard to tell. [23:46] matey theres that [23:46] matey theres that [23:46] XRevan86 * haven't seen [23:46] XRevan86 * haven't seen [23:46] XRevan86 All Trump's attempts to power-grab ended miserably. [23:46] XRevan86 All Trump's attempts to power-grab ended miserably. [23:46] matey i mean its kompot and oranges [23:46] matey i mean its kompot and oranges [23:47] XRevan86 Did someone mention Medvedev the Kompot? [23:47] XRevan86 Did someone mention Medvedev the Kompot? [23:47] matey but when your going for worst leader ever, it has to be [23:47] matey but when your going for worst leader ever, it has to be [23:47] activelow it was Burisma Bidler who interfered with Ukraine... remember the impeachment proceeding against Trump? [23:47] activelow it was Burisma Bidler who interfered with Ukraine... remember the impeachment proceeding against Trump? [23:47] matey no i meant the juice [23:47] matey no i meant the juice [23:47] activelow of cause, this was nothing... [23:47] activelow of cause, this was nothing... [23:47] matey close enough if you wanted to segue [23:47] matey close enough if you wanted to segue [23:47] XRevan86 matey: Just a reference to a 2017 story. [23:47] XRevan86 matey: Just a reference to a 2017 story. [23:48] matey crazy people named after juice have rarely ended well [23:48] matey crazy people named after juice have rarely ended well [23:48] matey of course there was oj [23:48] matey of course there was oj [23:48] matey and some guy who got killed at an airport? [23:48] matey and some guy who got killed at an airport? [23:48] XRevan86 matey: Remember "He Is Not Dimon to You" from the Navalny's team? [23:48] XRevan86 matey: Remember "He Is Not Dimon to You" from the Navalny's team? [23:49] matey /me shows a chart of periods where hes paid attention to russian history, with only a few bands indicating some familiarity at all [23:49] matey /me shows a chart of periods where hes paid attention to russian history, with only a few bands indicating some familiarity at all [23:49] matey cant say i have [23:49] matey cant say i have [23:49] XRevan86 matey: Medvedev responded to the allegations with "nonsense, froth and kompot" [23:49] XRevan86 matey: Medvedev responded to the allegations with "nonsense, froth and kompot" [23:49] XRevan86 it kinda stuck :) [23:49] XRevan86 it kinda stuck :) [23:49] matey im focused on the immediate and the less recent historical, mostly the latter (which chronologically is the former) [23:49] matey im focused on the immediate and the less recent historical, mostly the latter (which chronologically is the former) [23:50] matey oh good nickname then [23:50] matey oh good nickname then [23:50] XRevan86 matey: Sorry, sorry, it's just meme value that's relevant in this context. [23:50] XRevan86 matey: Sorry, sorry, it's just meme value that's relevant in this context. [23:50] matey no apology necessary. if anything you help flesh out this spotty history im working (not very hard) on [23:50] matey no apology necessary. if anything you help flesh out this spotty history im working (not very hard) on [23:50] matey russia is a side interest for me [23:50] matey russia is a side interest for me [23:51] matey but ive spent a lot of time on it recently, so id be lying if i feigned complete disinterest [23:51] matey but ive spent a lot of time on it recently, so id be lying if i feigned complete disinterest [23:51] XRevan86 It was one of the most resonant Navalny's investigations. [23:51] XRevan86 It was one of the most resonant Navalny's investigations. [23:51] XRevan86 Outgunned only by the Putin's Palace one. [23:51] XRevan86 Outgunned only by the Putin's Palace one. [23:51] matey clearly most of whats happened recently is tragedy on tragedy with more than a hint of catastrophe and not only a sprinkling of fucking disaster [23:51] matey clearly most of whats happened recently is tragedy on tragedy with more than a hint of catastrophe and not only a sprinkling of fucking disaster [23:52] matey hopefully he will be dead before it gets too much worse [23:52] matey hopefully he will be dead before it gets too much worse [23:52] matey when the whole world wants someone dead, sometimes thats just enough [23:52] matey when the whole world wants someone dead, sometimes thats just enough [23:52] XRevan86 It's sure fun to see that Russia's empty allegations that Ukraine intended to make nuclear weapons have worked on someone. [23:52] XRevan86 It's sure fun to see that Russia's empty allegations that Ukraine intended to make nuclear weapons have worked on someone. [23:53] XRevan86 Actually providing evidence is redundant at this point. [23:53] XRevan86 Actually providing evidence is redundant at this point. [23:53] matey i realise there are some bizarre people who want the opposite [23:53] matey i realise there are some bizarre people who want the opposite [23:53] matey theres really no accounting for taste [23:53] matey theres really no accounting for taste [23:53] matey then again im a big fan of dissent in general, so im glad at least theyre not (all) being hauled off somewhere [23:53] matey then again im a big fan of dissent in general, so im glad at least theyre not (all) being hauled off somewhere [23:53] XRevan86 Russian officials have put saying "we have proof" for actually giving any proof on a production line. [23:53] XRevan86 Russian officials have put saying "we have proof" for actually giving any proof on a production line. [23:53] matey in russia im sure thats not entirely true [23:53] matey in russia im sure thats not entirely true [23:54] matey russian officials sound worse than marketers [23:54] matey russian officials sound worse than marketers [23:54] matey if thats possible [23:54] matey if thats possible [23:54] matey i dont hate russia in the slightest [23:54] matey i dont hate russia in the slightest [23:54] XRevan86 Neither am I. [23:54] XRevan86 Neither am I. [23:55] matey my impression is wonderful people, a smattering of former mobsters (surely a couple not so former ones) and a government straight out of hell itself [23:55] matey my impression is wonderful people, a smattering of former mobsters (surely a couple not so former ones) and a government straight out of hell itself [23:55] XRevan86 I am disappointed however. [23:55] XRevan86 I am disappointed however. [23:55] MinceR "i'm not mad, i'm just disappointed" [23:55] MinceR "i'm not mad, i'm just disappointed" [23:55] matey yes, disappointment sounds like a good british understatement for it-- whether or not youre british (fairly certainly youre not-- but they didnt invent irony, they only take most of the credit) [23:55] matey yes, disappointment sounds like a good british understatement for it-- whether or not youre british (fairly certainly youre not-- but they didnt invent irony, they only take most of the credit) [23:56] matey (to be fair theyve contributed substantially) [23:56] matey (to be fair theyve contributed substantially) [23:56] XRevan86 I despise my government, I am disappointed in my people. Not an understatement. [23:56] XRevan86 I despise my government, I am disappointed in my people. Not an understatement. [23:56] matey (almost as much as mincer) [23:56] matey (almost as much as mincer) [23:56] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:56] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:56] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:57] matey XRevan86: somehow i can relate to this [23:57] matey XRevan86: somehow i can relate to this [23:58] matey many years ago (when i was quite young) i swore id never visit either the republic or northern ireland [23:58] matey many years ago (when i was quite young) i swore id never visit either the republic or northern ireland [23:58] XRevan86 matey: Certainly to a lesser extent, because there aren't many places in the world with a comparably despicable government. [23:58] XRevan86 matey: Certainly to a lesser extent, because there aren't many places in the world with a comparably despicable government. [23:58] matey because of all the fucking nonsense there [23:58] matey because of all the fucking nonsense there [23:59] matey however, both are among my favourite places on earth now, and beautiful as fuck [23:59] matey however, both are among my favourite places on earth now, and beautiful as fuck [23:59] matey Certainly to a lesser extent, because there aren't many places in the world with a comparably despicable government. <- NOT FOR LACK OF EFFORT! [23:59] matey Certainly to a lesser extent, because there aren't many places in the world with a comparably despicable government. <- NOT FOR LACK OF EFFORT! [23:59] matey also, i think youre taking too much credit for russia herself [23:59] matey also, i think youre taking too much credit for russia herself