●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, July 11, 2021 ●● ● Jul 11 [00:00] schestowitz SPARTA!! [00:00] bagira/fn Molly de Blanc followed about a month later. [00:00] schestowitz gnome foundation has been awful for 12+ years [00:00] schestowitz GNU/Linux is taking over [00:00] schestowitz so the monopolies try to take over it [00:01] schestowitz that's what's happening in a nutshell [00:01] bagira/fn gnome foundation is a disgusting faang front and needs to be utterly destroyed [00:01] schestowitz AWS got a huge share of it [00:01] Ariadne so, FSF was forcibly removed from freenode because of alleged smear campaigns? [00:01] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [00:01] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 15.96 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 78.15 swarm size (avg): 293.78 [00:01] schestowitz so many companies we support outsourced to AWS [00:01] Ariadne what smear campaigns are they doing? [00:02] schestowitz I reckon AWS is still x10 times bigger than the other ones, who just lose money... [00:02] bagira/fn Ariadne: They have been trying to be a neutral player around their community members participating in smear campaigns for years, and so have all these other organizations, and now when they make executive decisions as a group I want them to feel that hesitation as they remember the echo of real consequences for them ignoring it while someone literally shouted why it was happening [00:02] Ariadne i see [00:02] schestowitz apropos: http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153168 [00:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU/FSF: IRC and New Software Releases | Tux Machines [00:03] Ariadne unfortunately, i don't think they will quake in their boots [00:03] bagira/fn then it hasn't happened enough [00:04] Ariadne i mean i agree with you that there is a lot of people having stupid beefs over stupid shit [00:04] CrystalMath well like, Sullivan resigned [00:04] Ariadne and some of that is likely driven by corporate interest, "divide and conquer" type tactics [00:05] CrystalMath bagira/fn: the smear campaign going on then was against Andrew Lee right? i wrote to RMS about it [00:05] bagira/fn yes, less than 3 months after they just defended against a hell of an effort that would have destroyed them without intervention [00:06] *bradchaus (~bchadwick@4pjad2wvr9yr4.irc) has left #techrights [00:06] bagira/fn they need to take a stance [00:07] bagira/fn and that stance needs to serve the community [00:07] Ariadne a stance on what? [00:07] bagira/fn orgs ignoring that shit is why that shit exists; the lack of consequences [00:07] CrystalMath bagira/fn: RMS didn't believe me that it was a smear campaign, he delegated the issue to two people at the FSF [00:08] CrystalMath those two people then judged that it's not a smear campaign, unfortunately [00:08] CrystalMath one of them was very very biased [00:08] bagira/fn so next time they're ignoring that shit, maybe they'll say "you know if we ignore this, someone might come and fuck up our day over it in a pretty historical way" [00:09] CrystalMath bagira/fn: the FSF management that resigned supports cancel culture, and was still controlling #fsf at the time when you joined [00:09] CrystalMath they in fact resigned because RMS came back [00:10] CrystalMath but they still sit there because there's no replacement for them [00:10] schestowitz CrystalMath: Lee MEANT well [00:10] schestowitz I spoke to him for hours [00:10] schestowitz but he was misguided and handled the situation poorly [00:10] schestowitz I told him to be hands-off, let people leave if they want to [00:10] schestowitz and communicate more [00:10] schestowitz instead it was scandal after scandal [00:11] *bagira/fn lights a cigar [00:11] CrystalMath sadly a lot of the FSF staff (not the board) is very pro-cancel culture and mostly concerned with socialist goals that are not free software (and i've seen them flirt with ethical source too) [00:11] MinceR 11 001147 <~schestowitz> 18 pounds for cheap 'gaming keyboard' [00:11] DaemonFC I've considered changing my name. [00:11] MinceR lol, i thought mechanical keyboards started somewhere around 48 GBP [00:11] CrystalMath DaemonFC: go with Richard maybe :) [00:11] *bagira/fn pours a shot of balvenie 17 doublewood into a crystal glass [00:12] DaemonFC It's cheaper than having court records expunged and many landlords are so cheap that they just run your name through the local court computer. [00:12] bagira/fn night folks. [00:12] XRevan86 schestowitz: He was being paranoid even before that, so rushed actions were bound to happen in retrospect. [00:12] schestowitz tes [00:13] schestowitz yes [00:13] schestowitz exactly [00:13] MinceR 11 002507 < bagira/fn> im amazed the market hasn't rejected apple tbh [00:13] psydruid CrystalMath, would you consider the FSF deeply compromised ar this point? [00:13] DaemonFC It costs $10 to get a court order to change your name, and then you just serve it on Social Security and the vital records dept where you were born, get corrected documents, so free SS card and $10 for corrected birth certificate. [00:13] MinceR they're in the fashion accessories industry :> [00:13] DaemonFC Then you get a corrected driver's license for like $5. [00:13] psydruid at* [00:13] CrystalMath psydruid: no, becuase the board are in fact very good people [00:13] CrystalMath the staff of the FSF are a company that sells stickers [00:13] kingoffrance CrystalMath, you dont see "autonomous zone" as "socialist" ? [00:14] DaemonFC $25 to change name vs. $885 to expunge court records. [00:14] Ariadne the reality is that Lee took actions that forced the rest of us to take actions to protect our own interests [00:14] schestowitz MinceR: the good ones, yes [00:14] schestowitz I went to s store that sold used ones [00:14] CrystalMath kingoffrance: not really, no [00:14] XRevan86 Yes, and that started with the creation of Libera.Chat. [00:14] schestowitz but still very expensive and who knows what strangers did to/with them [00:14] DaemonFC Of course, just changing your name won't stop background check companies that use your SSN from digging dirt on you, but they stop most landlords from figuring out you hve court records. [00:14] Ariadne the "autonomous zone" crap is stuff he ripped off from pissnet :p [00:14] XRevan86 and now this is somehow their fault [00:14] DaemonFC Because they just take your $50 and run your name through the court computer for free, half of them anyway. [00:14] MinceR 11 004036 < bagira/fn> as will i from my great hydrogen zeppelin once i can [00:14] MinceR why not helium? [00:15] DaemonFC And there's a law in Illinois that backgrund checks for employment can't list dismissals, only convictions. [00:15] CrystalMath MinceR: living dangerously :) [00:15] DaemonFC So a name change might be okay if you got court supervision on something. [00:15] bagira/fn helium doesn't explode [00:15] schestowitz DaemonFC: they say people change names to escape something [00:15] schestowitz "they" = common belief [00:16] Ariadne yeah, i changed names to escape boyhood [00:16] schestowitz my birth cerf says "Roy", not Royston [00:16] schestowitz in the the future all the Roys will be dead people [00:16] schestowitz if few are left, I can go by my first name uniquely, like Ariadne [00:17] DaemonFC Or Felta. [00:17] schestowitz there's Roy Fielding [00:17] schestowitz but in tech not many Roys overall [00:17] CrystalMath but it's really incredible how SJWs can twist the truth: tomaw demands control of the domains from rasengan, rasengan says no (which keeps things as they are), and now suddenly people are saying rasengan is doing a takeover??? [00:17] schestowitz born 1965 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Fielding [00:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Roy Fielding - Wikipedia [00:18] schestowitz 17 years older than me [00:18] CrystalMath schestowitz: Roy Orbison [00:18] schestowitz very much older [00:18] XRevan86 schestowitz: schestowitz is pretty unique though :) [00:18] Ariadne CrystalMath: the real person to blame here is Christel, who told Andrew one thing, and everyone else something entirely different. [00:18] MinceR Richard Maybe? weird last name. [00:19] schestowitz died aged 52 [00:19] XRevan86 schestowitz: If it stops being unique enough, ye can consider the de-germanised version: zhestovich [00:19] Ariadne anyway, [00:19] MinceR schestowitz: i guess people brought cheap mechanical or faux mechanical keyboards to market that i didn't notice or ignored [00:19] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Orbison#Death_and_aftermath [00:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Roy Orbison - Wikipedia [00:19] schestowitz " heart attack at his mother's house at the age of 52" [00:19] CrystalMath schestowitz: yeah it was really sad [00:20] MinceR bagira/fn: do you want your zeppelin to explode while you're on it? [00:20] XRevan86 Ariadne: rasengan is still the one who freaked out the most over the least. [00:21] CrystalMath XRevan86: err, after the domain thing, like all the staff resigned and told people crazy lies and conspiracy theories [00:21] CrystalMath and that's where things started happening [00:21] schestowitz XRevan86: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/estajovice_u_Jarome [00:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-de.wikipedia.org | estajovice u Jarome Wikipedia [00:21] schestowitz "estajovice (deutsch Schestowitz) ist eine Gemeinde in Tschechien. Sie liegt 7 km stlich von Jarom und gehrt zum Okres Nchod." [00:22] CrystalMath a village in the Czech republic [00:22] XRevan86 schestowitz: Oh, that's so weird. [00:23] *MinceR checks republic [00:24] schestowitz the Czech is in the mail [00:25] XRevan86 schestowitz: All this time I thought that -witz is a transformation of -vich [00:26] XRevan86 but then it has to be https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Slavic/-ica [00:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | Reconstruction:Proto-Slavic/-ica - Wiktionary [00:28] XRevan86 Now what the heck is estajov then [00:29] schestowitz you would struggle to find out [00:32] schestowitz http://schestowitz.com/Genealogy/ [00:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 401 @ http://schestowitz.com/Genealogy/ ) [00:32] schestowitz I spent a lot of time studying that like 15+ years ago [00:33] schestowitz password needed [00:33] schestowitz from http://schestowitz.com/Genealogy/ [00:33] XRevan86 schestowitz: Well, I have additional expertise :). I can tell it has to be a surname. [00:35] schestowitz many surnames are made up [00:35] schestowitz mine is not [00:36] XRevan86 At least if Czech had the same labialisation process as in Polish, Russian, etc. [00:36] XRevan86 then -jov can be explained as -jev [00:38] schestowitz material side Tiefenbrunner [00:38] schestowitz france/swiss [00:39] schestowitz many relatives in zurich still, but distant [00:39] XRevan86 https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Slavic/-ov%D1%8A I could also consider this one, but: "Czech: -v" [00:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | Reconstruction:Proto-Slavic/-ov - Wiktionary [00:41] schestowitz I cannot distinguish Slavic accents too well [00:41] schestowitz MinceR might do better [00:41] XRevan86 it's not -ov, so it's not the one [00:41] schestowitz MinceR the Crown Prince of Absurdistan [00:42] schestowitz a long-lost kingdom with documents signed 150 years ago [00:42] Ariadne being royalty sounds like a lot of work [00:42] schestowitz haha [00:42] schestowitz like taking loans for a home [00:43] schestowitz add the caption: https://www.gnome.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/AndrewLee-420x278.jpg [00:44] schestowitz then we take over the north, then japan, THEN WE TAKE BERLIN [00:44] MinceR lol no [00:44] bagira/fn i have that same desk [00:44] bagira/fn well 3 of them forming a u shape with a monitor on each [00:44] MinceR i have no claims to monarchy [00:44] bagira/fn all 55" 4k displays :D [00:45] MinceR monarchies can go fuck themselves... oh wait, they already are [00:45] schestowitz MinceR: make something up [00:45] schestowitz good for your credit score [00:45] MinceR schestowitz: how about "god-emperor of the multiverse"? [00:45] Ariadne u can get that "desk" at walmart [00:45] bagira/fn yep [00:45] bagira/fn cheap ass picnic tables i bought mine at costco or sam's club i think [00:46] schestowitz and become king of overdraft [00:46] MinceR lol [00:46] DaemonFC schestowitz, I might post about how Uber and Lyft are dying. [00:46] bagira/fn i dont go to the walmart place if i can avoid it [00:47] Ariadne walmart is the only game in town in wyoming :( [00:47] schestowitz DaemonFC: they float in a sea of debt [00:47] DaemonFC Lyft even more than Uber because they refuse to acknowledge that prices go up with lack of supply and leave youwaiting for a $12 ride that never shows up even an hour later. [00:47] DaemonFC :) [00:47] schestowitz RMS said in a talk that "uber bus" is the endgame [00:47] schestowitz first they attack all public transport [00:47] schestowitz based on documents filed by them [00:48] *bradchaus (~bchadwick@4pjad2wvr9yr4.irc) has joined #techrights [00:48] schestowitz the shareholders (suckers) in that are running out of patientce [00:48] schestowitz they don't see RoI [00:48] schestowitz COVID made people more hesitant to hitch [00:49] schestowitz bagira: re monitors, I use 7 ATM [00:49] schestowitz 8 if you include roundcube monitoring at work [00:49] schestowitz because that's the wife's, she has 3 [00:50] Ariadne i have some questions about your setup :D [00:50] schestowitz 12 minutes more and work is over [00:50] Ariadne i only use 1 monitor [00:50] schestowitz Ariadne: it's cost efficient [00:50] schestowitz Ariadne: I also use 9 virtual desktops on main machine [00:51] schestowitz the goal is to spread out where possible [00:51] schestowitz I saw a 20-pound monitor on Friday [00:51] schestowitz used, obv. [00:52] schestowitz but I already have an orphaned one for which I need a VGA converter [00:52] schestowitz you can buy 5 screens for 100 bucks [00:52] schestowitz or pounds [00:52] bagira/fn thats nuts [00:53] bagira/fn schestowitz, dude, just get 3 big ones, you dont need a buncha little ones with a tiling window manager [00:53] Ariadne ^ lol [00:53] schestowitz those are pricey [00:53] bagira/fn not really [00:53] Ariadne just get TVs [00:53] schestowitz and they don't come with a CPU [00:53] Ariadne you dont even need a "monitor" anymore [00:53] bagira/fn 400-500 bucks for 4k 55" displays [00:53] schestowitz I use 4 laptops [00:53] bagira/fn well yeah they're technically TVs [00:53] bagira/fn but there's no damned difference these days [00:54] schestowitz sadly [00:54] Ariadne well a lot of TVs have spyware [00:54] Ariadne in them now [00:54] schestowitz here I cannot hjave them [00:54] schestowitz as I would then need TV Licence [00:54] bagira/fn samsung all across with disabled network [00:54] schestowitz And hence they no longer make very large PC monitors [00:54] bagira/fn and i know the network is disabled because i took the screwdriver to the network interface myself [00:54] schestowitz past 32 inch you'd be lucky to find anything without cable/tuner [00:55] schestowitz TV Licence was like 130 a year when I checked a decade back [00:55] schestowitz I'd never use it [00:55] bagira/fn if i had more time i'd try to build custom firmware for it [00:57] bagira/fn but with two fulltime jobs and an all you can eat buffet of projects im already trying to build, i just dont have any more sleep to cut into [00:57] Ariadne i wish the demoscene would stop using twitch [00:57] bagira/fn i dont know what a demoscene is and i barely know what twitch is [00:58] Ariadne you should expand your horizons [00:58] Ariadne people make computers do things... just for the fun of it [00:59] CrystalMath but twitch works fine with youtube-dl [00:59] bagira/fn oh is it like show and tell for people who aren't social enough to go to a lug [00:59] Ariadne uhh [00:59] Ariadne before COVID, there were huge demoparties ● Jul 11 [01:00] schestowitz bbiab, handing over [01:00] DaemonFC schestowitz, https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/07/10/uber-and-lyft-are-dying-in-chicago-maybe-nationwide-as-well-the-bubble-is-popping/ [01:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Uber and Lyft are dying in Chicago. (Maybe nationwide as well.) The bubble is popping. BaronHK's Rants [01:01] schestowitz in Manchester you can get cheap taxis on the phone [01:01] schestowitz no apps, no US debt-saddled giants [01:02] schestowitz it's the black cabs that are ripoff [01:02] schestowitz for heir licence [01:02] schestowitz *their [01:02] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 30.88 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 61.73 swarm size (avg): 293.62 [01:02] techrights-news #Proxmox VE 7 Has Been Released, Based on the Latest #Debian 11 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153091#comment-30214 #gnu #linux [01:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proxmox Virtual Environment 7.0 released | Tux Machines [01:03] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153252 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [01:03] techrights-news #Kernel : Intel, Rust, and T-shirt http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153251 #GPL #Linux #TuxMachines [01:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: Intel, Rust, and T-shirt | Tux Machines [01:04] bagira/fn who tf needs 4 laptops [01:04] techrights-news #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153250 #Linux #TuxMachines [01:04] Ariadne schestowitz apparently [01:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [01:05] schestowitz one powerful laptop is more expensive than all 4 combined [01:05] schestowitz and it doesn't multitask as well [01:06] techrights-news Links 10/7/2021: GNOME Closing Bugzilla, ExTiX Has New Release http://techrights.org/2021/07/10/gnome-closing-bugzilla/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/07/10/gnome-closing-bugzilla/ [01:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 10/7/2021: GNOME Closing Bugzilla, ExTiX Has New Release | Techrights [01:06] bagira/fn my dog really wants me, and the members of this channel, to be aware that the landscapers are in the yard to mow the lawn and he was not made aware that they would be coming [01:07] bagira/fn he is deeply concerned [01:07] DaemonFC Mandy was taken aback just now. [01:07] schestowitz what now? [01:07] DaemonFC I started doing the Macarena in the kitchen. [01:07] bagira/fn in sum, "woof". [01:07] DaemonFC He'd never heard it somehow. [01:07] techrights-news #Xfce : Supporting shared thumbnail repositories and video update http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153256 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Xfce: Supporting shared thumbnail repositories and video update | Tux Machines [01:08] techrights-news Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153254 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [01:08] schestowitz DaemonFC: it's an american latin thing [01:08] schestowitz not asean [01:09] techrights-news #FreeBSD #KDE Frameworks dependencies http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153255 [01:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FreeBSD KDE Frameworks dependencies | Tux Machines [01:09] MinceR afaik TVs usually don't do DMT :( [01:09] techrights-news #Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153253 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [01:09] MinceR https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/7332/what-is-the-difference-between-cea-and-dmt/7419 [01:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-raspberrypi.stackexchange.com | hdmi - What is the difference between CEA and DMT? - Raspberry Pi Stack Exchange [01:10] MinceR then again, if all you do is text terminals, maybe it doesn't matter [01:11] techrights-news #Narayanganj factory fire: Leftists blame employers, govt agencies https://www.newagebd.net/article/143355/leftists-blame-employers-govt-agencies [01:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newagebd.net | Narayanganj factory fire: Leftists blame employers, govt agencies [01:12] techrights-news #Italy approves deal to help builders with rising raw material costs https://realty.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/industry/italy-approves-deal-to-help-builders-with-rising-raw-material-costs/84291633 [01:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-realty.economictimes.indiatimes.com | Italy: Italy approves deal to help builders with rising raw material costs, Real Estate News, ET RealEstate [01:12] techrights-news President #Biden calls on #USDOJ and #USPTO to revise standard-essential #patent policies, disregarding Trump antitrust chief Delrahim's call for "regulatory humility" http://www.fosspatents.com/2021/07/president-biden-calls-on-doj-and-uspto.html [01:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: President Biden calls on DOJ and USPTO to revise standard-essential patent policies, disregarding Trump antitrust chief Delrahim's call for "regulatory humility" [01:13] techrights-news Corporate spam disguised as 'news' https://www.law360.com/articles/1397844/ip-hires-perkins-coie-merchant-gould-duane-morris [01:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-IP Hires: Perkins Coie, Merchant & Gould, Duane Morris - Law360 [01:14] techrights-news #KDEGear 21.08 releases branches created http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153175#comment-30215 #kde #gnu #linux [01:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Gear 21.04.3 | Tux Machines [01:21] techrights-news #Lubuntu 20.10 End of Life and Current Support Statuses https://lubuntu.me/lubuntu-20-10-end-of-life-and-current-support-statuses/ #gnu #linux [01:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lubuntu.me | Lubuntu 20.10 End of Life and Current Support Statuses | Lubuntu [01:22] techrights-news #EasyNAS 1.0 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153257 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #opensuse [01:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | EasyNAS 1.0 | Tux Machines [01:24] techrights-news #epo #corruption #crime (many good comments here): "There is also another problem. The cooperation budget is misused to "buy" votes at the AC. All the presidents used this budget to a certain extent in order to obtain favourable votes at the AC." http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/07/vico-oral-proceedings-on-legality-of.html?showComment=1625812253009#c7692488141850789567 [01:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | ViCo oral proceedings on the legality of ViCo oral proceedings - G1/21, The Sequel - The IPKat [01:24] techrights-news The Enlarged Board of Appeal of the European Patent Office is rigged, however, but law firms continue to ignore this when it suits them https://www.mondaq.com/canada/patent/1089310/double-trouble-epo-confirms-ambiguous-prohibition-on-double-patenting [01:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Double Trouble: EPO Confirms Ambiguous Prohibition On Double Patenting - Intellectual Property - Canada [01:25] techrights-news This 'article' is sponsored by the #patent #litigation industry [sic]; where is the actual media covering this very major blunder? https://www.managingip.com/article/b1slpsnxmtf4yv/g121-a-look-at-video-conferencing-at-the-epo [01:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | G1/21: a look at video conferencing at the EPO | Managing Intellectual Property [01:34] bagira/fn fuck i hope a funded project forks the kernel before this rust thing takes hold [01:45] techrights-news "Recently I installed #Gentoo live on stream for the first time ever and doing so made me realize a lot of what I thought about this distro was actually kind of wrong, but wrong in a good way. While it's not the Linux distro for it seems like a good choice for certain kinds of people." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S09ayy9xr_o [01:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gentoo Is No Harder Than Arch Linux?? - YouTube [01:45] techrights-news "The ugly bits remain behind the GUI and abuse the users https://www.maketecheasier.com/best-chrome-themes/ The new mayor of Boston has cancelled a regional plan to fill the whole metropolitan area with connected surveillance cameras." https://stallman.org/archives/2021-may-aug.html#9_July_2021_(Connected_surveillance_cameras) [01:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | 10 of the Best Chrome Themes to Beautify Your Browser - Make Tech Easier [01:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: May - August Political Notes - Richard Stallman [01:48] techrights-news We are very pleased to be able to contribute to India's problems and challenges by using Sony's leading-edge technology, India's excellent software engineering resources, and the ecosystem involving the public and private sectors." https://www.devdiscourse.com/article/technology/1646755-hackathon-organised-by-iit-madras-encourages-citizens-to-find-solutions-using-iot-sensor-board [01:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.devdiscourse.com | Hackathon organised by IIT Madras encourages citizens to find solutions using IoT Sensor Board | Technology [01:48] schestowitz bagira: won't happen.. [01:48] schestowitz too many LOCs and stakeholder [01:48] schestowitz it' OSPS [01:49] schestowitz vendor lockin in the 'free world' [01:49] schestowitz good luck also forking chromium :D [01:49] schestowitz I herad you need GBs of source code to compile the darn thing [01:49] schestowitz Gbs [01:50] bagira/fn yeah that's a result of "oh sure, we'll devote a whole department of developers to advancing your project because we are so open source friendly" [01:50] bagira/fn they dont need to own it at that point, because they already do [01:56] techrights-news Biggest Names On Aspen Institutes #Disinformation Commission Have A Checkered Past When It Comes To Accuracy, Freedom Of The Press https://www.tampafp.com/biggest-names-on-aspen-institutes-disinformation-commission-have-a-checkered-past-when-it-comes-to-accuracy-freedom-of-the-press/ [01:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tampafp.com | Biggest Names On Aspen Institutes Disinformation Commission Have A Checkered Past When It Comes To Accuracy, Freedom Of The Press [01:56] techrights-news RMS: " #Indonesia has been using Chinese vaccine, and it's better than nothing, but a substantial number of medical personnel have caught Covid-19 anyway and cannot work." https://stallman.org/archives/2021-may-aug.html#9_July_2021_(Despite_vaccine) [01:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: May - August Political Notes - Richard Stallman [01:57] schestowitz bagira: alpine does some interesting work [01:57] schestowitz moving toward smaller bits [01:57] schestowitz maintaining core functionality [01:57] schestowitz same for gemini [01:57] schestowitz making browser small again [01:57] schestowitz and very simple [01:57] schestowitz so you have many UNIQUE ones [01:57] schestowitz not chrome clones [01:58] schestowitz and we can still read news, get the weather etc. [01:58] schestowitz I have one screen devoted to gemini [01:58] schestowitz a monitoring program I wrote [01:58] schestowitz and a bunch of MSM news 'sites' over gemini:// [01:59] schestowitz to see what latest nonsense gets promoted [01:59] schestowitz refreshing every 10 mins [01:59] schestowitz so we don't need the web much [01:59] schestowitz I read news in kate [01:59] schestowitz I use IRC to talk [01:59] schestowitz and ytalk over ssh [01:59] schestowitz Linux is like Chrome [01:59] schestowitz big and monolithic [01:59] schestowitz unlike C ● Jul 11 [02:00] schestowitz so now they push rust [02:00] schestowitz and next they want kernel.org on SHITHUB [02:00] schestowitz because git is "hard" [02:00] schestowitz 'unlike' development of a kernel :D [02:02] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 16.95 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 28.60 swarm size (avg): 293.46 [02:21] techrights-news Chronicles of the Defunct Patent Office/Legal System in #Europe http://techrights.org/2021/07/10/cynical-about-epo-media-coverup/ #corruption #epo #teamUPC #eu [02:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Chronicles of the Defunct Patent Office/Legal System in Europe | Techrights [02:25] *KindOne has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [02:30] *KindOne (kindone@user/kindone) has joined #techrights [02:33] techrights-news [Meme] Sparkling Wine for #TeamUPC http://techrights.org/2021/07/10/team-upc-omissions/ #epo #eu #propaganda #patents [02:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Sparkling Wine for Team UPC | Techrights [02:37] techrights-news *** *** Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social IRC logs ready. 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[02:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, July 10, 2021 [02:41] techrights-news *** *** Yesterday's bulletin ready. http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-07-10.txt [02:53] techrights-news Today in #Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153258 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [02:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [02:58] techrights-news "No surprise there... we all know #IBM is doomed!" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bLTkyZI#replies [02:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Buffett cited IBM as example of arrogance, bureaucracy & complacency - post regarding IBM layoffs [02:59] techrights-news "I would urge everyone to consider opportunities outside #IBM . If you are seeking far better pay (+ 50%), more scope for career growth and a better culture that would treat employees like they should, that would be a no brainer." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bLdMtla#replies [02:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Resigned for greener pastures last week - post regarding IBM layoffs ● Jul 11 [03:00] techrights-news On #ibm CEO AK: "why does AK remind me of Slim Pickens at the end of Dr Strangelove?" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bLU5Cxv https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/73/Slim-pickens_riding-the-bomb_enh-lores.jpg [03:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | why does AK remind me of Slim Pickens at the end of Dr Strangelove? - post regarding IBM layoffs [03:01] techrights-news " #IBM didnt let him go - he is choosing to leave. He wants to be a CEO and that opportunity isnt available to him at IBM" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bLidKmw#replies [03:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | History of Jim Whitehurst - post regarding IBM layoffs [03:02] techrights-news Milking #ibm before it dies: "Stay as long as you, company and compensation are all growing." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bLOWYYw#replies [03:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Always keep looking - post regarding IBM layoffs [03:02] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 13.25 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 84.23 swarm size (avg): 293.31 [03:03] techrights-news #ibm crisis broadened in top-level management (media mostly deaf): "Steve Cowley has been sh-t canned. Three weeks ago. But yeah, he should have been gone YEARS ago" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bELGiJP#replies [03:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Jim Whitehurst and Bridget van Kralingen are out in an IBM leadership shakeup - post regarding IBM layoffs [03:05] techrights-news "I took a look at the Gopher directory/list file format and ran away screaming. Prefixing every single line with its type and hard-wrapping all text lines? Aieeeeeee." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006892.html [03:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Difference between gopher and gemini? [03:07] techrights-news Many 'tech' companies are not profitable at all. They ride VC money, receive military budget (grifting), or receive subsidies from taxpayers (via governments contracts that make you laugh; stimulus or bailout). 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It is about to be added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with CID [03:09] techrights-ipfs-bot QmU3szPaD1gndSfFaySqKiVtnfnnmYjzYaauJjTsoyYgQm [03:10] techrights-news The tragedy happening in the EPO, or the EU-centric #UPC project, is a cause for concern among many who practice #science rather than law (litigation) Chronicles of the Defunct Patent Office/Legal System in Europe http://techrights.org/2021/07/10/cynical-about-epo-media-coverup/ #Techrights #swpats #epo | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/07/10/cynical-about-epo-media-cove [03:11] techrights-news So-called media (read: litigation firms or media quoting litigation firms) is omitting the entire context of Friday's events http://techrights.org/2021/07/10/team-upc-omissions/ #Techrights #TeamUPC #unitaryPatent #UPC | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/07/10/team-upc-omissions/ [03:16] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [03:34] techrights-news Filling Up #Wembley When Over 200,000 Brits Contract #COVID19 Every Week Sends the Wrong Message About Public Safety http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/07/11/covid-surge/ #uk #england #euro2020 [03:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Filling Up Wembley When Over 200,000 Brits Contract COVID-19 Every Week Sends the Wrong Message About Public Safety [03:40] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [03:41] *job (~job@yfw32r65chp4s.irc) has joined #techrights [03:42] *pandakekok9 (~job@user/job) has joined #techrights [03:45] *bradchaus has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:47] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [03:51] *bradchaus (~bchadwick@4pjad2wvr9yr4.irc) has joined #techrights [03:58] techrights-news NEWS #HollywoodReporter #Games Unopened Legend of Zelda Game From 1987 Sells for $870,000 https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/unopened-legend-of-zelda-game-1987-sells-for-870000-1234980483/ [03:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hollywoodreporter.com | Unopened Legend of Zelda Game From 1987 Sells for $870,000 The Hollywood Reporter [03:59] techrights-news NEWS #DanLangille #BSD Fixing vulns in #poudriere jails https://dan.langille.org/2021/07/09/fixing-vulns-in-poudriere-jails/ [03:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dan.langille.org | Fixing vulns in poudriere jails Dan Langille's Other Diary ● Jul 11 [04:01] techrights-news NEWS #TomsHardware #OpenHardware #PiSugar Power Your Raspberry Pi With These Low-Cost Battery Add-ons https://www.tomshardware.com/news/power-your-raspberry-pi-with-these-low-cost-battery-add-ons [04:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tomshardware.com | Power Your Raspberry Pi With These Low-Cost Battery Add-ons | Tom's Hardware [04:01] techrights-news NEWS #KimKommando #freesw Stop paying for software! 7 free versions of popular programs everyone uses https://www.komando.com/downloads/7-free-versions-of-popular-programs/797707/ [04:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.komando.com | Stop paying for software! 7 free versions of popular programs [04:02] techrights-news NEWS #DragonFlyBSDDigest #Chromium #google How big is chromium? https://www.dragonflydigest.com/2021/07/09/25941.html @ bagira [04:02] XRevan86 I wonder why "TVW" is not a common term [04:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dragonflydigest.com | How big is chromium? DragonFly BSD Digest [04:02] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.46 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 65.50 swarm size (avg): 293.17 [04:02] XRevan86 SJWs have a polar opposite, but no one talks about them in that fashion. [04:03] techrights-news NEWS #JackKelly #freesw Free Software's Relevance in 2021 http://jackkelly.name/blog/archives/2021/07/09/free_softwares_relevance_in_2021/index.html [04:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Free Software's Relevance in 2021 | Blog | jackkelly.name [04:03] XRevan86 I'm of course talking about the Traditional Values Warriors [04:04] schestowitz BTW, XRevan86 [04:04] schestowitz fyi [04:04] schestowitz many freenode irc applets [04:04] schestowitz were hijacked to feed the freemode channel [04:04] schestowitz I checked tuxmachines applet [04:04] XRevan86 I got inspired by https://ria.ru/20210703/normalnost-1739732134.html , there Victor explains how people need to fight back the display of a gay couple as something normal. [04:04] schestowitz leads to #freenode channel now [04:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ria.ru | " ": - , 03.07.2021 [04:05] schestowitz with "root" gloating [04:05] XRevan86 schestowitz: What's an applet? [04:05] schestowitz inane stuff [04:05] schestowitz kiwiirc [04:05] schestowitz I am working on an announcement of move to irc.techrights.org [04:05] XRevan86 schestowitz: Can ye give an example? [04:05] schestowitz of what? [04:06] XRevan86 an applet that is hijacked [04:06] schestowitz I didn't copy-paste text from that channel [04:06] schestowitz but it was very unprofessional [04:06] schestowitz from "root" [04:06] schestowitz the applet was supposed to lead to tuxmachines [04:06] schestowitz but they ignore the directive [04:06] schestowitz and fall back onto #freenode [04:06] XRevan86 He is unprofessionalism incarnate, so I believe that of course. [04:07] schestowitz maybe because # is now needed in parameter passing [04:07] XRevan86 http://tuxmachines.org/node/121258 do ye mean this? [04:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | IRC | Tux Machines [04:07] schestowitz http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/132043 [04:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines IRC Logs | Tux Machines [04:07] schestowitz the new page [04:07] schestowitz announcement coming [04:07] schestowitz I removed that old appler [04:08] schestowitz the freenode-hosted one [04:08] schestowitz it leads to the wrong channel [04:08] schestowitz though I did not change the arguments [04:08] schestowitz they changed something at their end of kiwiirc changed [04:09] XRevan86 the old one was https://webchat.freenode.net/#tuxmachines ? [04:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-webchat.freenode.net | Kiwi IRC [04:09] techrights-news #Techrights Bulletin for Saturday, July 10, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [04:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives [04:09] XRevan86 "Current global users: 19765" neat [04:10] XRevan86 going below the 20K mark [04:10] techrights-news #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [04:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index [04:10] XRevan86 schestowitz: I don't know, seems to be working fine. [04:11] techrights-news NEWS #uniToronto #Education University computer accounts are often surprisingly complicated https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/tech/UniversityAccountsComplicated [04:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-utcc.utoronto.ca | Chris's Wiki :: blog/tech/UniversityAccountsComplicated [04:12] schestowitz XRevan86: no, it changed [04:12] *XRevan86 is checking via the wayback machine [04:12] schestowitz if you omit the # it goes to #freenode [04:12] schestowitz this was not the case before [04:12] schestowitz go ahead and check [04:12] schestowitz drupal doesn't do version control for me [04:12] schestowitz and I overrode the old version [04:13] schestowitz wordpress does have some version control built in [04:13] XRevan86 The old URLs had the dash in them. [04:13] XRevan86 schestowitz: I think I know what ye're complaining about. [04:14] XRevan86 schestowitz: KiwiIRC changed the way arguments are handled. [04:14] schestowitz yes [04:14] XRevan86 and by default it just puts "#freenode" there [04:15] schestowitz Ariadne told me that mibbit had been dropped due to spying or data sales [04:15] XRevan86 and just looks like the dash in the args, if it's there that's the channel name [04:15] schestowitz from a purely practical POV mibbit seems to work well [04:16] XRevan86 https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.techrights.org/?nick=tr_guest|&#tuxmachines like if ye omit the dash here, it will default to #kiwiirc [04:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kiwiirc.com | Kiwi IRC [04:17] XRevan86 so wacky [04:17] XRevan86 But yea, this is not freenode's fault, just KiwiIRC [04:18] XRevan86 (#freenode being a trash channel is its fault though) [04:22] schestowitz I didn't stay for long [04:22] schestowitz is "root" still Lee? [04:22] XRevan86 I am looking at this iframe and I don't understand: why does it default to 6667/clear-text? [04:22] XRevan86 schestowitz: No one can take over that guy :) [04:23] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has joined #techrights [04:23] schestowitz Too many joints [04:23] schestowitz l0de says he doesn't do "lines"\ [04:24] AdmFubar https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-removes-window-11-hack-to-enable-windows-10-start-menu/ [04:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Microsoft removes Window 11 hack to enable Windows 10 Start Menu [04:24] XRevan86 AdmFubar: Is that interesting? [04:25] schestowitz Microsoft spam site [04:25] AdmFubar just another example of am$'s control over "your" computer [04:26] schestowitz promoting Microsovft vpaouware [04:26] schestowitz any mention of that vapouware helps the vapouware [04:26] schestowitz as it reinforces that idea that vapouware... is HERE [04:26] schestowitz better not to even name Vista 11 vapouware [04:27] XRevan86 AdmFubar: Whatever. Making changing the web browser more challenging is fun however. [04:27] schestowitz XRevan86: Can you spot typos in http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153259 ? [04:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Improving Our Commitment to Tux Machines Readers | Tux Machines [04:27] AdmFubar vaporware is everywhere [04:28] schestowitz yes [04:28] schestowitz let's change that [04:28] XRevan86 > left us in a precarious scenario [04:28] schestowitz Microsoft is 'protecting' us... from evil Google [04:28] schestowitz Google is 'bundling'... in Windows [04:28] Ariadne daddy elon needs to improve the autopilot [04:28] XRevan86 I'd use "situation" instead of "scenario" [04:28] schestowitz will edit [04:28] XRevan86 a scenario is more like a plan [04:29] XRevan86 "we set up" "we have set up" rather. [04:30] XRevan86 also words "set up" repeat way too many times [04:30] XRevan86 and freenode is still spelt all-lower-case [04:32] schestowitz where? cannot see... [04:33] schestowitz let's hope this helps promote DE-centralisation of IRC [04:33] XRevan86 we set up our own IRC network In June we set up a two-way bridge set up with Freenode [04:33] techrights-news Improving Our Commitment to Tux Machines Readers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153259 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [04:34] XRevan86 Also is it "in IRC" or "on IRC"? I actually don't know. [04:34] schestowitz XRevan86: ah, well... if only I spent long hours optimising the wordings, I'd not get many articles done [04:35] schestowitz XRevan86: I guess eithert [04:35] schestowitz there's not a formal correct form [04:35] XRevan86 schestowitz: "brought up" is an alternative [04:35] schestowitz well, I've closed the tab :/ [04:36] XRevan86 At least I'm not the only one who has challenges with the Perfect tenses :) [04:37] schestowitz too much perfectionism begets lack of productivity :-) [04:37] bagira/fn this is fucking ridiculous: https://lists.dragonflybsd.org/pipermail/commits/2021-June/820334.html [04:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.dragonflybsd.org | git: dsynth - Support chromium WITH_DEBUG build [04:38] techrights-news NEWS #JeffGeerling #Hardware Ethernet was slower only in one direction on one device https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2021/ethernet-was-slower-only-one-direction-on-one-device [04:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jeffgeerling.com | Ethernet was slower only in one direction on one device | Jeff Geerling [04:38] techrights-news NEWS #MichaelStapelberg #Hardware 25 Gigabit #Linux internet router PC build https://michael.stapelberg.ch/posts/2021-07-10-linux-25gbit-internet-router-pc-build/ [04:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-michael.stapelberg.ch | 25 Gigabit Linux internet router PC build - Michael Stapelberg [04:39] XRevan86 bagira: This is not the Chromium's final form. [04:39] schestowitz 'BUT YOU HAVE THE SOURCE !!" [04:39] schestowitz "it's OPEN" [04:39] schestowitz (same for linux/systemd [04:40] schestowitz good luck with all that code [04:40] schestowitz mainline cannot be branched out [04:40] schestowitz alex oliva just runs a script on it [04:40] schestowitz to deblob it [04:40] bagira/fn i think tomorrow im going to try to do another session on getting surro built [04:40] schestowitz but it is impractical to do it manually every release, for DRM etc. [04:40] schestowitz RC out every week [04:41] schestowitz sunday night [04:41] schestowitz rc1 tomorrow [04:41] bagira/fn im struggling to move the project forward past the cross-compiler environment setup, it's a little outside of my area of knowledge for that part [04:41] techrights-news NEWS #CNN #Hardware #righttorepair Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak: 'It's time to recognize the right to repair' https://edition.cnn.com/2021/07/09/tech/apple-steve-wozniak-right-to-repair-intl-hnk/index.html [04:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edition.cnn.com | Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak: 'It's time to recognize the right to repair' - CNN [04:42] techrights-news
President Joe Bidens latest executive order is a huge win for right to repair
[04:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | President Joe Bidens latest executive order is a huge win for right to repair - The Verge [04:44] techrights-news NEWS #TurkishMinute #Health #Erdoan draws ire for omitting name of woman behind #coronavirus #vaccine https://www.turkishminute.com/2021/07/09/erdogandraws-ire-for-omitting-name-of-woman-behind-coronavirus-vaccine/ [04:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.turkishminute.com | Erdoan draws ire for omitting name of woman behind coronavirus vaccine | Turkish Minute [04:45] DaemonFC schestowitz, On the Linux thing, I guess I always end up on Fedora because it's what's "normal" for me. [04:45] DaemonFC There used to be more differences between distributions anyway. Poettering declared them "pointless differences". [04:46] schestowitz he wants one way for everything [04:46] schestowitz and interfaces aren't good [04:47] schestowitz modularity only within his own frameworks [04:47] schestowitz PA, systemd etc. [04:47] schestowitz what IBM paid for [04:47] schestowitz when it took over things [04:47] schestowitz systemd and chromium increased release pac [04:48] schestowitz the more frequent, the more they screw their imitators [04:48] schestowitz who lack the resources to keep something stable [04:48] schestowitz OSPS at work [04:48] AdmFubar https://arstechnica.com/?p=1779166 [04:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Cheat-maker brags of computer-vision auto-aim that works on any game | Ars Technica [04:49] schestowitz they go way back [04:49] schestowitz when I was gaming it was already an issue [04:49] schestowitz clipping hacks [04:49] schestowitz and aiming [04:49] schestowitz also lower ttl helps [04:49] schestowitz and all sorts of equipment [04:49] schestowitz so non-cheaters suffer [04:50] schestowitz like doping in sports [04:50] AdmFubar https://arstechnica.com/?p=1778886 [04:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | New fabric passively cools whatever its coveringincluding you | Ars Technica [04:51] schestowitz Ars does ads now [04:51] AdmFubar https://arstechnica.com/?p=1778874 [04:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | GOPs Big Tech plan ignores consumers, targets censorship of Republicans instead | Ars Technica [04:51] schestowitz as 'articles' [04:51] schestowitz "order today!!" [04:51] schestowitz Ars Politica [04:52] schestowitz that fabric is not cooling [04:52] schestowitz it just absorbs less heat [04:52] schestowitz or projects more of it back [04:52] schestowitz but... you know, MARKETING :-) [04:52] schestowitz not the first such 'magic' fabric [04:53] schestowitz my mom bought me a shirt like this 15 years ago and said it was "cooling" [04:53] schestowitz cool, but no... [04:53] schestowitz it's just thin and reflective [04:53] schestowitz but she's not technical and she thought it was some anti-sweat retardant [04:55] techrights-news NEWS #IndiaTimes #ProprietarySoftware #Ransomware attack hits Swiss consumer outlet #Comparis https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/digital-security/ransomware-attack-hits-swiss-consumer-outlet-comparis/84287150 [04:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | Ransomware attack hits Swiss consumer outlet Comparis, IT News, ET CIO [04:55] techrights-news NEWS #ThreatPost #ProprietarySoftware #Microsoft Office Users Warned on New Malware-Protection Bypass https://threatpost.com/microsoft-office-malware-protection-bypass/167652/ [04:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft Office Users Face Malware-Protection Bypass | Threatpost [04:56] techrights-news NEWS #CyberScoop #ProprietarySoftware Jack Cable, Stanford student and cyber whiz, aims to crowdsource ransomware details https://www.cyberscoop.com/jack-cable-ransomwhere-ransomware/ [04:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Jack Cable, Stanford student and cyber whiz, aims to crowdsource ransomware details - CyberScoop [04:58] techrights-news NEWS #SANS #ProprietarySoftware #Hancitor tries XLL as initial #malware file https://isc.sans.edu/diary/rss/27618 "XLL files are Excel add-in files" [04:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-isc.sans.edu | InfoSec Handlers Diary Blog [04:58] techrights-news NEWS #CSMonitor #ProprietarySoftware DoD ends $10 billion deal with #Microsoft for new clown contract https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Military/2021/0707/DoD-ends-10-billion-deal-with-Microsoft-for-new-cloud-contract [04:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-DoD ends $10 billion deal with Microsoft for new cloud contract - CSMonitor.com [04:59] techrights-news NEWS #CSMonitor #ProprietarySoftware With #ransomware attacks multiplying, US moves to bolster defenses https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2021/0706/With-ransomware-attacks-multiplying-US-moves-to-bolster-defenses http://techrights.org/2020/06/09/windows-disaster-zones/ [04:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-With ransomware attacks multiplying, US moves to bolster defenses - CSMonitor.com [04:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Index of the Series About Windows Inside Hospitals (Causing Hospitals to Become Disaster Zones) | Techrights ● Jul 11 [05:01] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [05:02] techrights-news NEWS #IndiaTimes #Privacy #Surveillance #WhatsApp won't compel users to opt for new privacy policy till data protection bill comes into force https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/social-media/whatsapp-wont-compel-users-to-opt-for-new-privacy-policy-till-data-protection-bill-comes-into-force/84261390 [05:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | WhatsApp new privacy policy: WhatsApp won't compel users to opt for new privacy policy till data protection bill comes into force, IT News, ET CIO [05:02] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 18.68 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 61.85 swarm size (avg): 292.97 [05:02] AdmFubar https://www.darkreading.com/vulnerabilities---threats/attacks-on-kaseya-servers-led-to-ransomware-in-less-than-2-hours/d/d-id/1341496 [05:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-beta.darkreading.com | Dark Reading | Security | Protect The Business [05:03] techrights-news "Ginni was the most arrogant CEO I've ever worked under. She thought she knew everything. She missed cloud. She missed SaaS. We will most likely never recover from her reign of te---r." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bLTkyZI#replies [05:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Buffett cited IBM as example of arrogance, bureaucracy & complacency - post regarding IBM layoffs [05:04] techrights-news "But #IBM is a truly fast sinking ship. Even if you think your talents are outdated, there's someone that will take a chance on you if you're willing to look hard (and assuming you're not a bad employee)." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bLdMtla#replies [05:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Resigned for greener pastures last week - post regarding IBM layoffs [05:05] schestowitz AdmFubar: a Microsoft shitshow [05:05] schestowitz someone from Microsoft told me about it days prior [05:05] schestowitz told me to get popcorn ready [05:05] schestowitz this will last a while [05:05] *psydruid has quit (connection closed) [05:05] schestowitz the media 'forgot' about the exchange fiasco [05:06] schestowitz nobody mentioned solarwinds anymore [05:06] schestowitz *mention [05:06] schestowitz who knows what next month will bring [05:06] schestowitz Windows Server is dying fast [05:06] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/06/29/survey-server-report/ [05:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Has Become Almost Extinct in Web Servers (and in Servers in General), But the Mainstream Media Rarely If Ever Talks About That | Techrights [05:07] schestowitz people move to free software [05:07] schestowitz email, files, web [05:09] techrights-news #ProprietarySoftware #Microsoft #Windows TCO https://www.darkreading.com/vulnerabilities---threats/attacks-on-kaseya-servers-led-to-ransomware-in-less-than-2-hours/d/d-id/1341496 [05:09] techrights-news NEWS #EDRI #Privacy #Surveillance Biometric #masssurveillance flourishes in #Germany and the Netherlands https://edri.org/our-work/biometric-mass-surveillance-flourishes-in-germany-and-the-netherlands/ [05:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edri.org | Biometric mass surveillance flourishes in Germany and the Netherlands - European Digital Rights (EDRi) [05:10] techrights-news NEWS #Forbes #Privacy #Surveillance It's Time To Incorporate #Biometrics Into #Security Protocols https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbestechcouncil/2021/07/07/its-time-to-incorporate-biometrics-into-security-protocols/ "Passwords can be guessed, and PII can be stolen or exposed." 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[08:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-newsnationusa.com | Why Linuxs biggest strength is also its biggest weakness - News Nation USA [08:59] techrights-news iophk: #biometrics are "user name" not "password" ● Jul 11 [09:00] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #techrights [09:00] techrights-news #ProprietarySoftware #Microsoft #Windows TCO https://www.darkreading.com/vulnerabilities---threats/attacks-on-kaseya-servers-led-to-ransomware-in-less-than-2-hours/d/d-id/1341496 [09:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-beta.darkreading.com | Dark Reading | Security | Protect The Business [09:01] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:02] techrights-news Explore waterways with this open source nautical navigation tool http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153260 [09:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Explore waterways with this open source nautical navigation tool | Tux Machines [09:02] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:02] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 29.76 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 64.25 swarm size (avg): 292.37 [09:02] techrights-news Linux Mint 20.2 is now available http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153156#comment-30218 [09:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint 20.2 "Uma" Released. This is What's New | Tux Machines [09:14] *inky (~inky@46.36.112.90) has joined #techrights [09:17] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [09:20] *liberty_box (~liberty@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [09:20] *rianne_ (~rianne@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [09:25] *cbrtrnx[m] has quit (Quit: Bridge terminating on SIGTERM) [09:28] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:28] *cbrtrnx[m] (~cbrtrnxma@2001:470:69fc:105::3f7a) has joined #techrights [09:28] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:31] techrights-news This Week in Linux 159: Audacity Fiasco, Linux Mint 20.2, IBM, Red Hat, Ubuntu, Proxmox https://tuxdigital.com/2021/07/thisweekinlinux-159/ [09:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-159: Audacity Fiasco, Linux Mint 20.2, IBM, Red Hat, Ubuntu, Proxmox | This Week in Linux - TuxDigital [09:32] *rianne_ (~rianne@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [09:34] *liberty_box (~liberty@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [09:40] techrights-news Audiocasts/Shows: GNU World Order, This Week in Linux, Gentoo Is No Harder Than Arch Linux?? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153261 [09:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: GNU World Order, This Week in Linux, Gentoo Is No Harder Than Arch Linux?? | Tux Machines [09:40] schestowitz x https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/10/business/gen-z-email.html [09:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Could Gen Z Free the World From Email? - The New York Times [09:40] schestowitz # web mail != e-mail; there is the confusion; [09:41] schestowitz x https://healthlawpulse.wordpress.com/2021/07/08/healthcare-under-attack/ [09:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-healthlawpulse.wordpress.com | Healthcare Under Attack The Pulse [09:41] schestowitz # "attack" != compromise; unless MS is involved [09:47] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:47] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:50] *rianne_ (~rianne@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [09:51] *liberty_box (~liberty@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights ● Jul 11 [10:15] activelow seems plan-b will kick in earlier than i thought: a fully free and open system without any c++ dependency anymore [10:19] *inky_ (~inky@46.241.133.248) has joined #techrights [10:19] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:19] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:20] *rianne_ (~rianne@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [10:21] *liberty_box (~liberty@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [10:21] activelow nice thing with gentoo is the use flag -cxx will quickly tell what is prone to attack and what isn't [10:22] techrights-news a [10:22] *asusbox has quit (connection closed) [10:22] *asusbox (~rianne@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [10:22] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [10:23] techrights-news The #righttorepair https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/biden-signs-executive-order-on-right-to:a [10:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | BIDEN SIGNS EXECUTIVE ORDER ON RIGHT TO REPAIR! [10:23] activelow couldn't have imagined being sued for working for zero income and asking for correct invoices for me to pay was considered legal offense [10:28] techrights-news #gnu #linux instead of #vapourware https://odysee.com/@DistroTube:2/don't-upgrade-to-windows-11!-upgrade-to:d [10:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | DON'T Upgrade To Windows 11! Upgrade To Linux Instead. [10:30] activelow to be honest i am not particularly happy with the landscape of software: i don't see the benefit of splitting distros such as armbian, debian, ubuntu, mate and dozens of derivatives for example [10:30] activelow in parallel to RPM based type ones of which several dozen exist egain, with no benefit to either developers and users [10:32] activelow and for source based development work neither rpm nor deb are first choice, don't know how these handle their system integration since when i learned to master gentoo (and some bsd before) [10:34] activelow most gnu/linux distros are binary-distributions which do not encourage a source-based work flow, which i question in principle [10:36] *lockeanarchist has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:37] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:37] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:37] *inky (~inky@46.241.133.248) has joined #techrights [10:37] *inky_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [10:37] *lockeanarchist (~lockeanarchist@dbx7zd6rdshfe.irc) has joined #techrights [10:39] immibis activelow: are you cancelling C++? [10:39] activelow nice immibis someone's talking to me, greetings [10:40] activelow i am less concerned about c++ than the dependency graph it introduced [10:40] *rianne_ (~rianne@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [10:40] *liberty_box (~liberty@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [10:46] activelow i am curious what a distro without any c++ dependency remaing will be capable of [10:46] activelow already had booted a gentoo stage4 which had fully removed c++, and contained all required development tooling to keep gentoo rolling [10:48] gustaf wha's wrong with C++ [10:48] immibis so you are not allowed to have gcc in your distribution [10:48] immibis so how are you going to compile the rest of it? [10:48] immibis you are also not allowed llvm [10:49] activelow yes, what had broken this was gcc required c++ support enabled to compile itself again, meaning i did cross compile a toolchain without c++, and such gcc compiler was functional [10:49] activelow yet such gcc compiler (version 8.4) couldn't compile itself anymore, this is the dead end with it [10:51] immibis that doesn't count. You need a compiler without C++ [10:51] gustaf still don't get the problem with C++ [10:51] activelow gustaf: the dependency graph is the problem, and almost everything which was written in c++ or depends on it [10:51] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [10:51] immibis what, you have some grudge against libstdc++? [10:52] activelow to avoid any misunderstanding, i do not question the quality of c++ software, libstdc++, the compilers and developers who chose to follow along with that [10:52] immibis or boost? [10:53] activelow i am having a problem with my niche being destroyed [10:54] activelow immibis: had you noticed for example Gnome project chose Vala language instead of c++? not sure yet if gtk3 widget toolkit will succeed with c++ removed or if there's any blocking dependency [10:55] CParadoxum_ Some madman finally did it [10:55] activelow why would Gnome project choose Vala instead of c++? [10:55] CParadoxum_ https://fairuseify.ml/ [10:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fairuseify.ml | Fairuseify - Fair Use via Machine Learning [10:56] CParadoxum_ activelow: because it is their in-house language thing [10:57] CParadoxum_ schestowitz: I think you'll want to check this out, someone is taking a stab at M$ and the bullshit copilot thing [10:57] CParadoxum_ https://fairuseify.ml/ ● Jul 11 [11:02] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 31.16 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 41.80 swarm size (avg): 292.21 [11:03] techrights-news Misdirection https://nitter.eu/thegrugq/status/1413684773134815234#m [11:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | thaddeus e. grugq (@thegrugq): "Russian ransomware is indeed a huge problem. But the conditions that shaped ransomware as a business model arent going to go away even if Russia cracks down on cyber criminals. Itll just open the space to other threat actors who want to make millions the easy way" | nitter [11:03] techrights-news "Other electric vehicles in vicinity" https://mastodon.cloud/@ilumium/106555365588759519 [11:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Jan Penfrat: "Crazy: @chbmeyer@mastodon.social says he asked #R" - mastodon.cloud [11:04] techrights-news "I guess I'm going to have to start using someone else's centralized SMTP server." https://hash.social/@harding/106552388159120313 [11:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hash.social | David A. Harding: "I've been running my own SMTP server for 19 years" - Mastodon [11:06] techrights-news #Uber and #Lyft are dying in Chicago. (Maybe nationwide as well.) The bubble is popping. https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/07/10/uber-and-lyft-are-dying-in-chicago-maybe-nationwide-as-well-the-bubble-is-popping/ [11:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Uber and Lyft are dying in Chicago. (Maybe nationwide as well.) The bubble is popping. BaronHK's Rants [11:09] techrights-news The #Baldcorder is James Lewis tricorder-like device for measuring light levels and temperature https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/07/11/the-baldcorder-is-james-lewis-tricorder-like-device-for-measuring-light-levels-and-temperature/ [11:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | The Baldcorder is James Lewis' tricorder-like device for measuring light levels and temperature | Arduino Blog [11:10] techrights-news #TenFourFox FPR32 SPR2 available http://tenfourfox.blogspot.com/2021/07/tenfourfox-fpr32-spr2-available.html [11:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tenfourfox.blogspot.com | TenFourFox Development: TenFourFox FPR32 SPR2 available [11:11] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:12] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:12] techrights-news Whats new in Linux Mint 20.2 Uma http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153156#comment-30219 [11:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint 20.2 "Uma" Released. This is What's New | Tux Machines [11:14] *rianne_ (~rianne@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [11:15] *liberty_box (~liberty@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [11:15] activelow the consequences of the c++ policy are dramatic: libreoffice and the entire idea such an office suite was present, instead of markdown or TeX [11:16] techrights-news Quality of #patents falling; aimless gold rush https://www.natlawreview.com/article/cnipa-43-chinese-patent-firms-have-submitted-irregular-patent-applications [11:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.natlawreview.com | 43% of Chinese Patent Firms Have Submitted Irregular Patent Applications [11:18] gustaf TeX is not a replacement for more than parts of document editing [11:18] gustaf and if you want a user-friendly TeX env I suspect C++ is what you'd go for [11:18] techrights-news Far too many patents, too low a quality, hard to keep abreast of https://www.law360.com/articles/1394833/6-ways-to-guide-applications-under-new-patent-classification [11:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-6 Ways To Guide Applications Under New Patent Classification - Law360 [11:18] gustaf Markdown was made after Star Office [11:18] schestowitz you can use latex front end [11:19] schestowitz lyx,. kile... [11:19] gustaf and are those C++ free [11:19] activelow anything which requires qt does [11:19] gustaf doesn't cover stuff like spreadsheets, which are the most compelling/useful applicatons imho [11:19] activelow some chances remain with gtk [11:19] gustaf I mean I can see not wanting to go wtih Rust but exluding C++ is... quixotic [11:22] activelow i consider the idea to mask c++ only an approach to track the dependency graph with gentoo, to verify what remains of the real gnu/*bsd/*nix experience [11:23] gustaf X11 is basically straight C no ? [11:23] activelow X11 is i think, yet i didn't include that in the bootable stage4 i created with gentoo [11:23] techrights-news #FinancialTimes now whitewashing the criminal family of #billgates ... and we know Financial Times takes money from a bunch of criminal like #EPO management to whitewash them too: http://techrights.org/2016/06/10/epo-money-to-media-companies/ [11:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO Bought the Financial Times, Which Now Operates in Mouthpiece Mode for Mr. Battistelli | Techrights [11:24] techrights-news #FinancialTimes = #whitewashing for sale. #twitter is the same. FT: http://techrights.org/2016/06/10/epo-money-to-media-companies/ Twitter: http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/bill-gates-pays-twitter/ [11:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Reality is Warped When You Pay for Perception Management (or: Bill Gates Pays Twitter for Propaganda) | Techrights [11:25] techrights-news Media should NEVER become a 'tool of occupation' or 'instrument of brainwash' of the rich. But that's what we have now... [11:27] activelow even without X11 a development environment can be retained, to work with productively, for science, listen music, watch movies with mplayer on framebuffer, write TeX papers, web authoring with markdown, internet services such as mail, irc, ftp, www/lynx, gemini [11:27] techrights-news Nothing but bad experiences with #Realtek Ethernet NICs https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/realtek-nic.html #Hardware [11:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ctrl.blog | Nothing but bad experiences with Realtek Ethernet NICs [11:27] *inky (~inky@31.7.162.99) has joined #techrights [11:28] gustaf bit of a hairshirt environment but if that's what you want I have no problems with it [11:29] activelow imagine this, such an environment could be retained on tiny embedded, maybe even with a source-based distro such as gentoo (and little help of distcc) [11:31] gustaf https://raymii.org/s/blog/Using_IceWM_and_sharing_my_config_and_tips_tricks.html [11:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Using IceWM and a Raspberry Pi as my main PC, sharing my theme, config and some tips and tricks. - Raymii.org [11:34] techrights-news #TenFourFox and Chromium Monoculture http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153262 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [11:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | TenFourFox and Chromium Monoculture | Tux Machines [11:36] activelow gustaf: i think the RAM usage reporting is somewhat errornous, which is the system seems to have 8GiB of RAM, of which more than 300MiB are allocated/reserved and not reported as used by top [11:36] techrights-news

Fortunately, we can look at " #Gtk4 bindings for help, I found layout_manager.rs to be a useful example one gotcha to watch out for is vfuncs, especially signals, as they dont necessarily have a default implementation" https://blogs.gnome.org/zbrown/2021/gtk-rs-is-pretty-neat/ [11:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.gnome.org | Gtk-rs Is Pretty Neat | Revelations of an imposter [11:36] gustaf no doubt [11:37] activelow and i had not seen any 64bit system setup which would boot into non-X11 and less than 40MiB allocated, i don't trust the screenshot [11:38] activelow nonetheless, it is the way to go, crunch down and crush everything possible to save gnu [11:39] schestowitz it's not a gnu issue [11:39] schestowitz the bloat comes from elsewhere [11:39] activelow another criteria is any distro must remain 100% source-based, such as either gentoo or *bsd, ideally all software installed is ready for debugging with debug symbols and sources ready at hand [11:41] gustaf that kinda implies a more powerful computer to do the actual compilation [11:42] gustaf OpenBSD used to (early 2000s) be source (ports) based but they're now recommending binary (packages) for distribution [11:42] activelow with c++ dependency graph gone it is feasible on low-power aarch64 i think [11:44] activelow this is another issue, since source acquisition and debugging setup isn't seamless [11:45] *inky_ (~inky@5.77.141.79) has joined #techrights [11:45] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [11:45] activelow it is somehow possible with gentoo, nonetheless i see a fundemental design flaw with this [11:46] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:46] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:47] techrights-news #OpenHardware /Modding Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153264 #GNU #Linux #Sharing #TuxMachines [11:47] techrights-news #ProprietarySoftware Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153263 #Microsoft #Backdoors #TuxMachines [11:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware/Modding Leftovers | Tux Machines [11:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Software Leftovers | Tux Machines [11:49] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [11:50] *inky_ (~inky@31.7.162.99) has joined #techrights [11:51] *rianne_ (~rianne@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [11:52] *liberty_box (~liberty@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [11:53] techrights-news An eventful week #Kalendar week 5 (GSoC 2021) https://claudiocambra.com/2021/07/11/an-eventful-week-kalendar-week-5-gsoc-2021/ [11:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-claudiocambra.com | An eventful week Kalendar week 5 (GSoC 2021) Claudio Cambra [11:55] techrights-news When they worry about the brands instead of the spam https://www.managingip.com/article/b1sjh2c8g8lq0t/ftc-loss-boosts-brand-pacts-but-raises-abuse-fears-sources [11:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | FTC loss boosts brand pacts but raises abuse fears: sources | Managing Intellectual Property [11:55] techrights-news The Danger Of Nigerias Autocracy And Its Apologists https://www.newtelegraphng.com/the-danger-of-nigerias-autocracy-and-its-apologists/ #nigeria #ng #africa [11:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newtelegraphng.com | The danger of Nigerias autocracy and its apologists - New Telegraph [11:57] techrights-news What on Earth is this from JUVE? Marketing spam disguised as "news" -- i.e. more of the usual https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/people-and-business/a-decade-on-ip-boutique-ampersand-realigns-core-practice/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Juve [11:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.juve-patent.com | A decade on, IP boutique Ampersand realigns core practice - JUVE Patent [11:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Juve - Techrights ● Jul 11 [12:00] techrights-news They should go after #microsoft too http://www.fosspatents.com/2021/07/reshuffling-of-antitrust-cases-against.html but Microsoft gives them the directions/instructions: http://techrights.org/2021/06/29/microsoft-behind-big-tech-narrative/ [12:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: Reshuffling of antitrust cases against Google Play Store: Epic and class action plaintiffs will file amended complaints, 36 states filed new lawsuit [12:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft is a Lot Worse Than Google, Amazon, Facebook, and Apple | Techrights [12:02] techrights-news Do we need cameras in our classrooms? - The Nevada Independent https://thenevadaindependent.com/article/do-we-need-cameras-in-our-classrooms see http://techrights.org/2012/06/19/pedometers/ [12:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenevadaindependent.com | Do we need cameras in our classrooms? - The Nevada Independent [12:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Billions for Indoctrinating Children | Techrights [12:03] techrights-news Misdirection of blame. #microsoft #windows #ProprietarySoftware https://theowp.org/reports/washington-silent-on-latest-ransomware-attack-kremlin-says/ [12:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theowp.org | Washington Silent On Latest Ransomware Attack, Kremlin Says The Organization for World Peace [12:05] techrights-news IAM's way of sucking up to dictators and corrupt despots like those who commit many crimes in #epo (and also had their share of #corruption in #euipo ) https://www.worldtrademarkreview.com/law-firms/two-trademark-industry-luminaries-named-among-2021-ip-hall-of-fame-inductees http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EUIPO [12:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.worldtrademarkreview.com | Two trademark industry luminaries named among2021IP Hall of Fame inductees | World Trademark Review [12:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EUIPO - Techrights [12:06] techrights-news The Sharpest Dissents From The Supreme Court Term https://www.law360.com/legalethics/articles/1399804/the-sharpest-dissents-from-the-supreme-court-term [12:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Sharpest Dissents From The Supreme Court Term - Law360 [12:08] techrights-news #pinkwashing by the most corrupt institution in #europe https://www.epo.org/news-events/news/2021/20210709.html #epo #crimes #corruption http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EPO [12:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.epo.org | EPO - Flying the rainbow flag [12:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO - Techrights [12:10] techrights-news The gay community ought not allow itself to be hijacked and exploited as a prop of despotic and corruption-laden institutions, governments. Because that's what's happening to its symbols. [12:11] techrights-news #SoftwarePatents and mass #surveillance https://www.biometricupdate.com/202107/zighra-granted-behavioral-biometrics-patent-to-extend-mobile-passwordless-access [12:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.biometricupdate.com | Zighra granted behavioral biometrics patent to extend mobile passwordless access | Biometric Update [12:13] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:13] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:13] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [12:15] *rianne_ (~rianne@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [12:16] *liberty_box (~liberty@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [12:18] techrights-news "the Federal Court has modified the law of #patent term extensions in #Australia , by clarifying that its only the patentees goods that are relevant to the proposed extension not those of a competitor, even if the competitors goods came first" http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/07/08/patent-term-extensions-in-australia-when-first-isnt-really-first/ [12:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Patent term extensions in Australia: when first isn't really first - Kluwer Patent Blog [12:19] techrights-news #patent "Eligibility and indefiniteness are both judged primarily as questions of law, although both can occasionally depend upon some underlying factual finding. And, even when questions of fact are at issue" https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/07/dismissal-pleadings-indefiniteness.html [12:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Dismissal on the Pleadings -- for Indefiniteness [12:20] techrights-news Sorry, dogs (and trees), some humans claim to "own" your bark https://www.mondaq.com/unitedstates/trademark/1089154/ttablog-test-must-bark-be-disclaimed-in-big-bark-for-tree-care-services #uspto #trademark [12:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | TTABlog Test: Must "BARK" Be Disclaimed In "BIG BARK" For Tree Care Services? - Intellectual Property - United States [12:22] techrights-news The Intellectual Property Owners Association (IPO) is a (partly) #ibm front group and this is a reminder of the harms done by IBM to our community https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/07/ipo-webinar-ip-case-law-mid-year-review.html they lobby for #swpats [12:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: IP Case Law Mid-Year Review [12:22] activelow i am curious as to how Berne convention is compatible with patents, if a patentee wasn't the first originator of the invention [12:23] techrights-news https [12:23] techrights-news https [12:24] techrights-news "Assuming the OP was a US employee, I can only echo - from experience - that #IBM top talent in Europe are also leaving the sinking ship in droves." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bLdMtla#replies [12:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Resigned for greener pastures last week - post regarding IBM layoffs [12:24] techrights-news New: "Our clients also took notice. I speculate that #IBM will soon be a small outdated niche company with little respect in the industry and amongst our clients. The clients are also starting to leave the ship." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bLdMtla#replies [12:25] schestowitz activelow: go ahead and challenge it [12:25] schestowitz ECB situation now exploited by EPO [12:25] activelow schestowitz: claiming patentee status and not beeing the original inventor probably is in conflict with the definition of author's rights [12:26] techrights-news "Purely a means to fill the pockets of a few, at the cost of the masses. And maybe that was the straw that broke the camels back w/o a means for #IBM to ever recover again. Incredible, she is still getting paid by the IBM board." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bLTkyZI#replies [12:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Buffett cited IBM as example of arrogance, bureaucracy & complacency - post regarding IBM layoffs [12:27] techrights-news "Only difference is that AK has a golden parachute so he can jump before the rest of us?" #ibm CEO = AK https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bLU5Cxv#replies [12:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | why does AK remind me of Slim Pickens at the end of Dr Strangelove? - post regarding IBM layoffs [12:28] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [12:28] schestowitz activelow: see latest in http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EPO [12:31] techrights-news The problem is that far too many #patents are being granted (low-quality junk), not that too few are granted https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/07/time-eligibility-stories.html [12:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | It is Time to Tell Your Eligibility Stories | Patently-O [12:32] techrights-news Boots are boots. What do you want to monopolise? The colour? A patent on shape? https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/07/iconic-timberland-worthy.html [12:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Iconic Timberland Boots -- Trade Dress Worthy? [12:33] techrights-news Longer and worse than #vietnam #war h https://www.foxnews.com/world/afghanistan-taliban-us-irresponsible-warlord [12:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.foxnews.com | Afghanistan unprepared for Taliban onslaught, US irresponsible, key warlord says | Fox News [12:35] techrights-news Week #5 - #GSoC Weekly Report - 100 Paper Cuts https://bayramcicek.com.tr/libreoffice-dev/2021/07/11/week-05-gsoc.html [12:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bayramcicek.com.tr | Week #5 - GSoC Weekly Report - 100 Paper Cuts | Bayram ieks website [12:42] techrights-news Download Linux Mint 20.2 today... http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153156#comment-30220 [12:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint 20.2 "Uma" Released. This is What's New | Tux Machines [12:50] techrights-news VirtIO-IOMMU Comes To x86 With Linux 5.14 - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.14-IOMMU #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/07/11/#latest [12:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-VirtIO-IOMMU Comes To x86 With Linux 5.14 - Phoronix [12:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [12:50] techrights-news Linux 5.14 Can Create Secret Memory Areas With memfd_secret - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.14-memfd_secret #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/07/11/#latest [12:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 5.14 Can Create Secret Memory Areas With memfd_secret - Phoronix [12:50] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153265 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [12:51] techrights-news #CentOS Forms A Group To Flip On Old, Deprecated Or Out-Of-Tree Kernel Modules http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153266 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CentOS Forms A Group To Flip On Old, Deprecated Or Out-Of-Tree Kernel Modules | Tux Machines [12:58] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:58] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:59] techrights-news #ibm "lost him by not making him CEO after the temporary transition period like the originally said the plan was." #redhat #allowhurst https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bLidKmw#replies [12:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | History of Jim Whitehurst - post regarding IBM layoffs [12:59] techrights-news #Security Patches, FreeBSD, and Lubuntu 20.10 End of Life http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153267 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Patches, FreeBSD, and Lubuntu 20.10 End of Life | Tux Machines [12:59] techrights-news " #IBM #Marketing folk do not have any budget to spend on ideas that generate leads/business." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bKqO0zd#replies [12:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Working in Marketing here - post regarding IBM layoffs ● Jul 11 [13:00] techrights-news #redhat #allowHurst "JW is no Lou Gerstner." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bKwAb6h#replies #ibm [13:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Why Whitehurst is stepping away from IBM - post regarding IBM layoffs [13:01] *inky_ (~inky@31.7.162.99) has joined #techrights [13:01] techrights-news #microsoft #nadella = financial engineering http://techrights.org/2020/07/23/microsoft-defrauding-again/ [13:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft is Defrauding Its Shareholders While Laying Off About 5,000 Workers | Techrights [13:02] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 16.85 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 66.05 swarm size (avg): 292.07 [13:03] techrights-news "Any company(s) that we think will make a purchase of Watson Health or its parts?" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1biByoMH#replies #ibm still calling products after THIS guy while telling us "whitelist" offends people? http://techrights.org/2021/04/25/ibm-germany-history/ [13:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Is there any new information about IBM selling Watson Health? - post regarding IBM layoffs [13:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Documentary: IBM Founder (Watson) Gave a Nazi Salute, Admired Hitler, Said Hitler Was Doing the Right Thing | Techrights [13:05] techrights-news "It is critical for all inventors to provide the best possible patent drawings so that examiners quickly understand the invention set forth in the application, thereby increasing the likelihood of a #patent being granted." https://www.mondaq.com/patent/1089278/making-the-most-of-your-patent-drawings [13:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Making The Most Of Your Patent Drawings - Intellectual Property - Luxembourg [13:06] techrights-news More #fakepatents , including #patents on life https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/07/news-from-abroad-european-cvc-crispr-patent-revoked-because-of-invalid-priority-claim.html [13:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: News from Abroad: European CVC CRISPR Patent Revoked Because of Invalid Priority Claim [13:07] *rianne_ (~rianne@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [13:07] *liberty_box (~liberty@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [13:10] techrights-news GNU Linux (Debian) cheap chinese mp3 player JIE LI CD002-1 gets registered as Audio (Output) Device instead as usb drive (usb stick mount) file access impossible https://dwaves.de/2021/07/11/gnu-linux-debian-cheap-chinese-mp3-player-jie-li-cd002-1-gets-registered-as-audio-output-device-instead-as-usb-drive-usb-stick-mount-file-access-impossible/ [13:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- GNU Linux (Debian) cheap chinese mp3 player JIE LI CD002-1 gets registered as Audio (Output) Device instead as usb drive (usb stick mount) file access impossible | dwaves.de [13:14] techrights-news #Kernel : Linux 5.14 and USB Device http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153268 #GPL #Linux #TuxMachines [13:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: Linux 5.14 and USB Device | Tux Machines [13:14] techrights-news Stop paying for software! 7 free versions of popular programs everyone uses http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153269 mostly #freesw in there... [13:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Stop paying for software! 7 free versions of popular programs everyone uses | Tux Machines [13:16] techrights-news Guess what... most people are already tracked down to the level of thinking https://diasp.org/uploads/images/cad3681d5bb3bf965fc8.jpg [13:19] techrights-news Tons of #fakepatents and #swpats in particular https://www.managingip.com/article/b1smk0mbqfy80x/ptab-filings-h1-2021-top-petitioners-patentees-and-law-firms #uspto #ptab [13:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | PTAB filings H1 2021: top petitioners, patentees and law firms | Managing Intellectual Property [13:25] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [13:26] *inky_ (~inky@31.7.162.99) has joined #techrights [13:27] techrights-news BRILLIANT Tory ploy: let's flood the #uk with #COVID19 (220k new cases per week) to scare and discourage tourists, preventing fans of foreign football teams coming over to cheer in #euro2020 [13:37] techrights-news Links 11/7/2021: EasyNAS 1.0, Lots of Patent Catch-up http://techrights.org/2021/07/11/easynas-1-0/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/07/11/easynas-1-0/ [13:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 11/7/2021: EasyNAS 1.0, Lots of Patent Catch-up | Techrights [13:37] techrights-news #Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153270 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [13:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [13:38] techrights-news #FreeSoftwares Relevance in 2021 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153271 #GNU #Linux #freesw #TuxMachines [13:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free Software's Relevance in 2021 | Tux Machines [13:40] techrights-news Filling up streets and even a densely-populated stadium at this time is a really awful idea http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/07/11/covid-surge/ #uk #euro2020 #covid19 #tories #nationalism [13:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Filling Up Wembley When Over 200,000 Brits Contract COVID-19 Every Week Sends the Wrong Message About Public Safety [13:40] immibis activelow: because they felt like it. Why does it mater what Gnome did? Are you a Gnome sheeple? [13:41] techrights-news #tuxmachines IRC is now self-hosted http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153259 [13:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Improving Our Commitment to Tux Machines Readers | Tux Machines [13:44] *Guest5520 has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in) [13:44] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:44] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:45] techrights-news 1 min ago: " #IBM and BOD are plain stupid!!!" IBM is just financially-engineering its situation -- same thing #microsoft does. https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bLidKmw#replies [13:46] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [13:46] activelow pardon immibis ? what are gnome sheeple? [13:48] techrights-news #ibm and #microsoft : when you don't have it, fake it. And then pray the faking can help it somehow become a reality. Or buy time, loot the org when the illusion persists. [13:49] activelow it is an interesting question why Vala was chosen by gnome project. [13:49] *rianne_ (~rianne@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [13:50] immibis activelow: people who blindly follow whatever gnome does, obviously [13:50] immibis if Gnome switched to JavaScript would you try to get a JavaScript-only OS? [13:50] techrights-news Everything AOC said about #billgates did NOT age well at all! [13:51] *liberty_box (~liberty@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [13:51] activelow no immibis. and i had noticed Vala before i found gnome was a prominent user of this language which is considered dead even, to my surprise. [13:56] techrights-news "The DS-085 defaults to Windows 10 and Linux is supported by project, says Advantech." Not good enough. They use back-doored hardware, put #NSA #malware on it, then say #Linux might be OK. Avoid #Advantech http://linuxgizmos.com/slim-height-tiger-lake-signage-player-features-four-hdmi-ports/ [13:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ http://linuxgizmos.com/slim-height-tiger-lake-signage-player-features-four-hdmi-ports/ ) [13:57] immibis activelow: so you agree the fact Gnome is using it is irrelevant ● Jul 11 [14:00] *psydroid_ (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techrights [14:01] techrights-news A New Look for the #Health app https://visveshs.blogspot.com/2021/07/a-new-look-for-health-app.html #gnome #gtk #freesw [14:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-visveshs.blogspot.com | A New Look for the Health app [14:02] *birkoff (birkoff@birkoff.thunderirc.net) has joined #techrights [14:02] *birkoff has quit (Changing host) [14:02] *birkoff (birkoff@user/birkoff) has joined #techrights [14:02] techrights-news #KPhotoAlbum 5.8.1 released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153272 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [14:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KPhotoAlbum 5.8.1 released | Tux Machines [14:04] techrights-news Todays decision of the BVerfG does not come as a surprise. Already the first UPCA decision shows that its considerations are primarily politically dominated and that legal issues play at best a subordinate role." #germany #corruption #teamUPC #lobbying #capture https://www.stjerna.de/comment-2-bvr-2217-20/?lang=en [14:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.stjerna.de | Dr. Ingve Bjrn Stjerna, LL.M. | A comment on the BVerfGs decision of 23/06/2021 in matter 2 BvR 2217/20 (09/07/2021) [14:05] techrights-news The role played by #de government in #epo #corruption and #crimes http://techrights.org/2021/04/16/bundestagate-part-20/ #germany [14:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPOLeaks on Misleading the Bundestag Part 20: Taking Stock | Techrights [14:06] schestowitz z [14:06] schestowitz zoobab: [14:06] schestowitz Rechtsanwalt Dr Stjerna, complainant in matter 2 BvR 2217/20, comments as follows: [14:06] schestowitz Todays decision of the BVerfG does not come as a surprise. Already the first UPCA decision shows that its considerations are primarily politically dominated and that legal issues play at best a subordinate role. This is a necessary consequence of the close ties between the BVerfG judges and party politics. I had already pointed this out in 2018 in an article on the first UPCA constitutional complaint proceedings and raised the question how [14:06] schestowitz independent the examination by judges, who are appointed under political considerations, would be in this legislative project which was politically highly desired across party lines and passed with positive knowledge of all constitutional issues. With its decision, the BVerfG has once again made its contribution to the implementation of a legally questionable political agenda, and citizens trust in its function as the guardian of the [14:06] schestowitz constitution is likely to continue to dwindle. [14:06] schestowitz After the decision, also the main proceedings on the UPCA are now likely to be unsuccessful. The conclusion of the German UPCA ratification, which can now be expected shortly, will cause a binding effect under international law which cannot easily be removed. This also limits the possibilities of further legal action against the Agreement itself. [14:06] schestowitz https://www.stjerna.de/comment-2-bvr-2217-20/?lang=en [14:07] techrights-news 2019 Concerns About Stephan Harbarths #UnitaryPatent (UPC) Vested Interests and His Entrance Into the Constitutional Court That Decides on #UPC http://techrights.org/2019/02/02/stephan-harbarth-upc/ #Techrights #de #corruption | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2019/02/02/stephan-harbarth-upc/ [14:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Concerns About Stephan Harbarths Unitary Patent (UPC) Vested Interests and His Entrance Into the Constitutional Court That Decides on UPC | Techrights [14:09] techrights-news Infiltration/entryism/corruption: "newly-appointed judge at the Federal Constitutional Court (BVerfG), who moves there from the Bundestag (at the centre of Stjernas complaint because of a notorious vote by a fraction of members at 1AM in the morning)" http://techrights.org/2019/02/02/stephan-harbarth-upc/ [14:13] activelow immibis: the contrary in fact, it is noteworthy gnome chose Vala language, although it is considered dead, which i do not understand either [14:17] activelow no expert, nonetheless i think Vala could be a potent competitor to rust, c++, java maybe and other interpreted languages [14:17] *CrystalMath (~coderain@wsmqmyrvtzmw4.irc) has joined #techrights [14:21] gustaf I've tried reading up on Vala [14:21] gustaf it's a bit fuzzy [14:21] gustaf is it a compiled language? [14:21] immibis "rust, c++, java and other interpreted languages" [14:21] immibis rust, c++ and java are not interpreted languages. (unless you count a JIT compiler as an interpreter; then it's only java) [14:22] gustaf ``Vala is an object-oriented programming language with a self-hosting compiler that generates C code and uses the GObject system.'' [14:23] activelow all languages compile to native code anyway, either AoT or JIT [14:23] activelow Vala is AoT compiled [14:23] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving) [14:23] activelow same with rust, c++ [14:24] *CrystalMath (~coderain@wsmqmyrvtzmw4.irc) has joined #techrights [14:24] gustaf "AoT" ? [14:24] activelow don't fully understand the concept of bytecode with java, it is sitting on top of a so-called VM, probably with JIT compilation involved [14:24] activelow ahead-of-time [14:25] gustaf ta [14:25] activelow means machine code is compiled ahead-of-time of it being executed [14:25] activelow with JIT, just-in-time, at runtime some dynamically generated and compiled code can be executed, this is the principle difference to my understanding [14:38] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:39] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:40] *rianne_ (~rianne@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [14:42] *liberty_box (~liberty@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [14:50] *inky_ (~inky@37.252.95.41) has joined #techrights [14:56] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:56] immibis activelow: false. interpreters do not compile anything to natice voce [14:56] immibis code* [14:56] immibis native* code* [14:57] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Jul 11 [15:02] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 21.58 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 34.25 swarm size (avg): 291.93 [15:03] *rianne_ (~rianne@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [15:03] MinceR afaik in the case of java, source code is compiled to java bytecode, which is then just-in-time compiled to native code (and optimized) by the JVM [15:04] *liberty_box (~liberty@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [15:07] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [15:26] *inky_ (~inky@46.36.112.166) has joined #techrights [15:42] techrights-news And I will go to #Texas : four firms speak out on moving to #Austin https://www.managingip.com/article/b1sm3l6nyklcsl/and-i-will-go-to-texas-four-firms-speak-out-on-moving-to-austin while practising firms that actually make something and offer jobs to locals flee the place after TC Heartland [15:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | And I will go to Texas: four firms speak out on moving to Austin | Managing Intellectual Property [15:43] techrights-news "A lower court ruling voiding Amarins patents was upheld by a court of appeals and the US Supreme Court declined to take up the matter." https://seekingalpha.com/article/4438403-amarin-lets-revisit-m-and-a-discussion [15:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://seekingalpha.com/article/4438403-amarin-lets-revisit-m-and-a-discussion ) [15:45] techrights-news Speed should never be a priority; #patent validity and quality matter a lot more https://www.natlawreview.com/article/speeding-examination-related-us-and-japanese-patent-applications #patents [15:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.natlawreview.com | Tips for U.S. and Japanese Patent Application Examinations [15:47] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:47] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:52] *job has quit (connection closed) [15:52] *pandakekok9 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [15:52] *rianne_ (~rianne@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [15:53] *liberty_box (~liberty@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [15:56] activelow immibis: ok. not sure where a line is drawn precisely between a virtual machine such as jvm, interpreters, and JIT [15:57] *inky (~inky@46.162.235.220) has joined #techrights [15:58] activelow perl for example mentions it's interpreter does compile JIT [15:59] activelow anyway, Vala is compiled, which probably imposes some limitations [15:59] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [15:59] gustaf Vala looks interesting tbh [15:59] gustaf I never see it in the same sentence as Zig for example [15:59] activelow zig? ● Jul 11 [16:00] gustaf https://ziglang.org/ [16:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ziglang.org | Home Zig Programming Language [16:06] schestowitz Ariadne: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/techrights-desk.jpg [16:06] schestowitz afternoon [16:07] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has joined #techrights [16:08] XRevan86 gaming keyboard [16:08] techrights-news Techrights News to Muse http://techrights.org/2021/07/11/techrights-news-to-muse/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/07/11/techrights-news-to-muse/ [16:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights News to Muse | Techrights [16:08] AdmFubar schestowitz: Maybe this can help with your keyboard issues! https://www.serafim-tech.com/products/566-serafim-keybo-world-s-most-advanced-projection-keyboard.html [16:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.serafim-tech.com | Serafim Keybo: World's Most Advanced Projection Keyboard - Serafim Tech [16:08] techrights-news Speed should never be a priority; #patent validity and quality matter a lot more https://www.natlawreview.com/article/speeding-examination-related-us-and-japanese-patent-applications #patents [16:09] schestowitz XRevan86: 'gaminmg' = "with backlight" [16:09] XRevan86 schestowitz: It's mostly the accented WASD thing. [16:09] schestowitz AdmFubar: you don't feel what you click [16:10] schestowitz with piano you know you hit the wrong notes [16:10] schestowitz the audience cannot always tell [16:10] schestowitz with typing any typo is visible [16:10] schestowitz XRevan86: that too [16:10] AdmFubar :P [16:11] schestowitz I've started posting checksums for videos [16:11] schestowitz md5 [16:12] XRevan86 It's also strange seeing MD5 mentioned at all. It's a weak algorithm, albeit sufficient for this purposes. [16:12] XRevan86 If size is the issue, even SHA1 is a considerable leap forward. [16:13] XRevan86 just 8 characters longer [16:22] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:22] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:27] *rianne_ (~rianne@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [16:28] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [16:28] *inky_ (~inky@37.186.117.147) has joined #techrights [16:29] *liberty_box (~liberty@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [16:30] techrights-news UPC @ FCC http://techrights.org/2021/07/11/upc-fcc/ #upc #unitaryPatent #teamupc #epo #germany [16:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | UPC @ FCC | Techrights [16:36] techrights-news #Ubuntu 21.10 Impish Indri - New Features and Release Date http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153273 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [16:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 21.10 Impish Indri - New Features and Release Date | Tux Machines [16:41] techrights-news 221,052 #covid19 cases this past week alone (new figures just in). So my post from this morning 'lowballs' it. http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/07/11/covid-surge/ #uk #england #euro2020 [16:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Filling Up Wembley When Over 200,000 Brits Contract COVID-19 Every Week Sends the Wrong Message About Public Safety [16:42] techrights-news Not a single #euro2020 match in #manchester ! http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/07/06/manchester-football/ [16:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Manchester is a Football Capital and Deserves to Hold More International Matches Than Wembley (London) [16:49] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:49] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:55] techrights-news #ibm exodus. "I retiredit feels great not having to listen to the mgt BU-----T." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bLdMtla#replies [16:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Resigned for greener pastures last week - post regarding IBM layoffs [16:57] techrights-news #ibm is losing its most valued staff and talent. This has gone on for a while now: http://techrights.org/2021/03/19/ibm-is-destroying-rht/ [16:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM is Destroying Red Hat and Red Hatters Are Leaving | Techrights [16:58] techrights-news Some explanation of the slower pace of publication (more noticeable lately) and some of the work done behind the scenes to enhance the impact/reach/accessibility of Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/07/11/techrights-news-to-muse/ #Techrights | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/07/11/techrights-news-to-muse/ [16:59] techrights-news Litigation first club plays German Chess; and in the process it disgraces #Germany (complicit component in unlawful agenda) http://techrights.org/2021/07/11/upc-fcc/ #Techrights #de #epo | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/07/11/upc-fcc/ ● Jul 11 [17:02] *rianne_ (~rianne@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [17:02] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 30.31 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 61.86 swarm size (avg): 291.77 [17:03] *liberty_box (~liberty@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [17:10] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:11] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:19] *rianne_ (~rianne@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [17:20] *liberty_box (~liberty@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [17:41] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:41] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:42] *rianne_ (~rianne@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [17:44] *liberty_box (~liberty@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights ● Jul 11 [18:13] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [18:17] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:17] *rianne_ (~rianne@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [18:25] psydruid rejecting Intel is seen as rejecting Microsoft [18:26] psydruid I can't explain the pro-Intel comments when it comes to EU subsidies for (for now vapourware) Intel fabs in any other way [18:52] *immibis_ (~immibis@x8auzse8ecnc4.irc) has joined #techrights [18:52] *immibis_ (~immibis@2a02:3032:400:aff2:d899:f991:dcec:5708) has joined #techrights [18:52] *immibis has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:54] *immibis has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) ● Jul 11 [19:02] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 31.63 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 62.56 swarm size (avg): 291.66 [19:58] schestowitz psydruid: yes, a strong correlation exists ● Jul 11 [20:03] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:03] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:09] *rianne_ (~rianne@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [20:10] *liberty_box (~liberty@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [20:33] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@5qcpbp8qwznpy.irc) has joined #techrights [20:53] psydruid creating stickiness in both directions [20:58] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:58] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:59] *liberty_box (~liberty@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights ● Jul 11 [21:00] *rianne_ (~rianne@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [21:02] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 15.60 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 23.25 swarm size (avg): 291.45 [21:03] schestowitz psydruid: yes, to borrow Microsoft's terms [21:06] lockeanarchist lol [21:06] lockeanarchist Windows 11 now is a webapp [21:06] lockeanarchist going ChromeOS route [21:07] schestowitz they sought patents on this [21:07] schestowitz almost 15 years ago [21:07] schestowitz people just renting access to 'their' PC [21:07] schestowitz I think Google beat them to it [21:08] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/fire [21:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Fire [21:26] *inky_ (~inky@5.77.137.159) has joined #techrights [21:45] DaemonFC https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2021/07/09/lake-county-jail-says-illinois-still-refusing-to-approve-most-inmate-transfers-to-state-prisons/ [21:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lakemchenryscanner.com | Lake County Jail says Illinois still refusing to approve most inmate transfers to state prisons [21:45] DaemonFC schestowitz, Now it makes more sense why that judge in traffic court on Zoom was so reluctant to sentence anyone who cursed him out to contempt. [21:46] DaemonFC The state is playing games with counties and refusing to accept any inmates from county jails, citing "Coronavirus", but in reality that leaves counties backlogged with thousands of prisoners that would cost the state over $60,000 per year, each, to keep in state prison. [21:47] DaemonFC So, in turn, the counties are trying to avoid sentencing anyone to jail over misdemeanors. The state can probably save hundreds of millions of dollars even if it loses the lawsuit, by the time a decision is handed down. [21:48] DaemonFC That probably explains one reason why the cops are writing so many traffic tickets. [21:49] DaemonFC https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2021/07/11/homeless-man-charged-with-beating-injuring-man-with-frying-pan-in-waukegan/ [21:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lakemchenryscanner.com | Homeless man charged with beating, injuring man with frying pan in Waukegan [21:49] DaemonFC We see this guy out panhandling on Green Bay and Washington all the time. [21:50] DaemonFC Mandy asked why we don't give panhandlers any money. I said, there's signs up all over the place saying not to. It's illegal anyway, but the cops don't really enforce it. [21:51] DaemonFC Most are drifters and criminals who can't get into the homeless shelters for good reason. [21:52] DaemonFC https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2021/07/11/16-days-in-jail-for-man-who-exposed-himself-took-upskirt-video-of-girl-at-mchenry-store/ [21:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lakemchenryscanner.com | 16 days in jail for man who exposed himself, took upskirt video of girl at McHenry store [21:53] DaemonFC MinceR, According to the criminal complaint he exposed his dick at a Dick's and then made an upskirt recording of a juvenile. [21:53] DaemonFC Democrat judges be all like 16 days in the county! [21:53] DaemonFC Herp derp! Next case! [21:53] DaemonFC Oh hai there Mr. Farmer. You ran a traffic light, they tell me. Naughty Naughty! [21:54] DaemonFC You know that the precogs down at the Waukegan Police Department saw that! They were just a little backlogged that day. Here's the video from the telepaths! [21:57] DaemonFC They pled it down to unauthorized video recording, which means he doesn't go on the list. [21:57] DaemonFC Who knows what he's been up to that the state doesn't even know about. [21:58] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:58] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:59] DaemonFC Dashcam recordings are legal in Illinois because you're not recording a conversation and the people outside your car are in a public area with no expectation of privacy and Illinois has no law about obstructions mounted on your windshield. [21:59] *rianne_ (~rianne@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [21:59] DaemonFC schestowitz, I was talking to Mandy about his sister and the radar detector. ● Jul 11 [22:00] DaemonFC I said she was being lulled into a false sense of security because her entitlement mentality suggest to her that she has a right to break any law she wants to. [22:00] DaemonFC However, those things provide no protection at all from those laser systems. [22:00] DaemonFC By the time they could possible go off, the cop has your speed already. [22:01] DaemonFC And if she hits someone going 80 miles an hour down a county road, she's fucked whether a cop saw it or not. [22:01] *liberty_box (~liberty@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [22:01] DaemonFC The investigators know the difference between what a 45 mile per hour crash looks like an an 80 mph crash. [22:02] DaemonFC Plus, the radar detectors have false positives and false negatives. [22:02] DaemonFC There's all sorts of things in a city that can set them off, including door sensors at supermarkets. [22:02] MinceR (cat) (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI7quU-lZV8 [22:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bengal Cat Sleep Talks - YouTube [22:03] DaemonFC They generally have a city mode, but that makes them less sensitive, which gives you less warning about cops. [22:03] DaemonFC And the cops have been shifting to radar types that are harder to detect for many years. [22:03] DaemonFC Eve if your radar detector works okay now, it may not 5 years later. How often are you upgrading? [22:04] DaemonFC Those cops have tickets to write and if ticketing rates go down because of radar detectors, they'll buy new radar guns. It's your money, after all. [22:11] DaemonFC https://chicago.suntimes.com/2021/6/10/22524623/end-louis-dejoy-postmaster-general-only-joe-biden-gets-tougher [22:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-chicago.suntimes.com | Get rid of Louis DeJoy as postmaster general? Only if Biden gets tougher - Chicago Sun-Times [22:12] DaemonFC I can't believe that thi guy is floating around. Biden got rid of the Commissioner and Deputy Commissioner of Social Security on Friday even though the law says he can't do that, saying he believes the Supreme Court decision that allowed Trump to get rid of many of Obama's holdovers at other agencies applies. [22:12] schestowitz DaemonFC: seems far OT [22:13] DaemonFC Radar detectors? Many of the newer ones go way beyond that. [22:14] DaemonFC They have firmware that is intended to be updated for a while, and they can connect to your phone via Bluetooth to hook into Waze. [22:15] DaemonFC I noticed that along the freeway, cops like to report fake speed traps all the time to make Waze useless. [22:16] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [22:16] *sepsinn has quit (Quit: WeeChat 3.2) [22:29] DaemonFC Radar detectors don't actually work all that well these days. There's just too many things that use some form of radar that all set them off. [22:30] DaemonFC Including if drivers around you have adaptive cruise control or blind spot detection. [22:30] DaemonFC It could set your detector off thousands of feet away. [22:30] DaemonFC All of these things just add expense to cars and they make it easier to be a bad driver. [22:31] DaemonFC There's nothing particularly difficult about signaling for several seconds, checking your side mirror thoroughly, and then changing lanes. [22:31] DaemonFC So let's add radar to the side of the car and fight you for the steering wheel because that's safe! [22:32] DaemonFC What's dangerous about driving where I am is that the judicial system doesn't really punish bad drivers, so every time you go out it's like they're playing Grand Theft Auto. [22:33] DaemonFC On the off chance they get pulled over, the state will offer not to tell their car insurance company if they agree to pay a bigger fine. [22:34] DaemonFC XRevan86, That's what I liked about Babylon 5. [22:35] DaemonFC I didn't get it at the time, that the guy producing and writing it was doing so from a Russian perspective on things. [22:36] DaemonFC I wasn't in the early USENET groups surrounding it because nobody much had the internet in their house back then. [22:36] DaemonFC But it's archived now. [22:36] DaemonFC schestowitz, The War on Unmoderated User Content is going poorly. [22:37] DaemonFC Apple and Google have become the enforcers of it. [22:37] DaemonFC It dawned on me that few people use forum software and self-host anymore. [22:38] DaemonFC When you did that, you made the rules. You set the rules. With Facebook, you never know where you are. If your group will be there tomorrow. If someone complains, you can lose everything. Nobody will ever know that any discussion ever happened there. [22:38] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:38] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:39] *liberty_box (~liberty@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [22:40] DaemonFC schestowitz, The Pentagon, reassessing the JEDI thing, concluded that they didn't need it, it was too much of a security risk, and that they were going to spend $10 billion on it until they weren't. [22:40] *rianne_ (~rianne@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [22:40] DaemonFC These are the same people that let the US nuclear weapons stockpile get down to one specialized wrench that they all overnighted to each other. [22:41] XRevan86 DaemonFC: Never looked at it like that. Maybe because it's the default perspective for me :) [22:41] XRevan86 not sure what ye mean there [22:41] DaemonFC Like, you know, "That's grim......but yeah, it makes sense now that you mention it.". [22:42] DaemonFC The jails in Illinois are overflowing because the states don't want to pay to put people in IDOC prisons, but people are still being sentenced to prison for felonies and then just serving it in county because the state ignores its own law. [22:43] DaemonFC Someone Else's Problem, right? [22:43] DaemonFC Even though Illinois is under single party control and they could end the lawsuit and force counties to pay for all of this by tweaking the law, they don't. [22:44] DaemonFC It's not bad enough that the government breaks its own laws, but the party breaking the laws breaks laws that it could change in a 5 minute vote with no debate. [22:44] *sepsinn (~sepsinn@c9nu4ummhfn7e.irc) has joined #techrights [22:51] DaemonFC https://news.yahoo.com/7-point-plan-reinstate-donald-144559048.html [22:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.yahoo.com | A 7-point-plan to reinstate Donald Trump as president 'in days, not years' was handed out at CPAC [22:51] *DaemonFC head desks [22:52] DaemonFC "Donald Trump as Speaker would then call for a vote to impeach, charge, and remove "imposters" President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris." [22:53] DaemonFC So for this to happen, they not only have to retake the house and get a majority vote, but also flip 17 seats in the Senate, which is impossible to do in the 2022 election no matter how bad the Democrats fare because they don't have that many seats up for re-election that year? [22:53] DaemonFC I didn't realize that Yahoo News had turned into The Onion. [22:54] MinceR :) [22:56] DaemonFC Even if the Democrats lose every seat they have up next year, including the 10 seats that are nearly impossible to lose, they would lose 14 seats. [22:56] DaemonFC Which is 3 short of 7. [22:56] DaemonFC *17 [22:57] DaemonFC MinceR, But Trump will be so popular that the Democrats lose Illinois, California, and New York! [22:57] DaemonFC Then he'll be reinstated in a landslide! With three more Democrats joining to impeach after the Democrats lose all 14 seats! [22:57] DaemonFC CPAC and Yahoo, you know.... [22:58] schestowitz we just got kaema [22:58] DaemonFC That'll be right after Giuliani gets his law license back. [22:58] schestowitz for covid arrogance, lost on penalties [22:58] DaemonFC And the MyPillow Crackhead becomes the next Speaker. [22:58] schestowitz and now we have 220k cases/week [22:59] DaemonFC schestowitz, AZ&ME [22:59] DaemonFC If you can't afford your medications, AstraZeneca may be able to help! [22:59] DaemonFC :D ● Jul 11 [23:00] DaemonFC These Patient Assistance Programs in the US. They make you jump through hoops to plead poverty with the drug companies every year. [23:00] DaemonFC Then maybe they throw some pills at you for free to keep the outcry from sparking reform, then there's the tax write offfs. [23:01] DaemonFC schestowitz, Unscrupulous companies, but I decided to chance it with the COVID vaccine anyway. [23:02] DaemonFC I stayed away from the viral vector ones because I sort of had a feeling that if they were only 65% effective or whatever against the original COVID, we'll just call it COVID Classic, then they'd be poor against whatever came next with all of these goddamned hillbillies turning into an animal reservoir. [23:02] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 31.40 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 92.33 swarm size (avg): 291.29 [23:03] DaemonFC Now the Pfizer vaccine that I got that was 95% effective against "COVID Classic" is only 68% effectiv against "New COVID". [23:03] DaemonFC So that's where J&J and AZ started out with COVID Classic. [23:03] DaemonFC You can imagine how worthless those are now. [23:04] DaemonFC So your government may have to call everyone back in who got the AZ vaccine to get the Pfizer one and without knowing what they're in for since they got the AZ one already. [23:04] DaemonFC Fauci is a big joke. [23:05] DaemonFC They were saying don't wait. Take whatever's available, just do it now. [23:05] DaemonFC That was in February and March. [23:05] DaemonFC By May it wasn't difficult to get an mRNA vaccine. [23:05] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [23:05] DaemonFC Demand had peaked and suddenly we were so flooded with those that it was walk-ins. [23:06] DaemonFC Now they tell us everyone in Illinois who got the vaccine is in a lottery to win money. [23:06] XRevan86 at least he's not Doctor Myasnikov [23:06] DaemonFC So the state knows full well who got the vaccine. [23:06] DaemonFC If we win, we're using the money to leave the state. [23:06] DaemonFC Then I'm also buying a car. [23:07] DaemonFC at least he's not Doctor Myasnikov [23:07] DaemonFC I am unfamiliar with this. Did he toe the line or did he have an unfortunate window-related incident? [23:08] XRevan86 DaemonFC: No, he's the other kind [23:09] *inky_ (~inky@46.36.119.185) has joined #techrights [23:09] DaemonFC You'd think that there'd be more creativity in Russia at murdering Putin's political opponents and inconvenient people. [23:09] DaemonFC "They ALL walked out of a window?". [23:10] DaemonFC Maybe he just watched Big Hero 6. "We jumped out a windooooooow!". [23:12] DaemonFC The manufacturer of various food-related Puff products reduced the number you get from 6 to 4. [23:12] schestowitz DaemonFC: the best solution for those who can work from home is isolation [23:12] DaemonFC They at least had the decency to lower the price to compensate. [23:12] schestowitz we only leave for food and exercie [23:12] DaemonFC Maybe they just fit the shelf better or something. [23:13] schestowitz but I know some people don't have the luxury of isolation [23:13] schestowitz so better a jab than none [23:15] schestowitz XRevan86: is Doctor Myasnikov the principal one in ru? [23:15] DaemonFC Someone said how much I was paying for my phone was expensive. I said, not by US standards. [23:15] XRevan86 He used to be. [23:15] XRevan86 Don't know the current one. [23:15] schestowitz I remember some old policies [23:15] DaemonFC Besides, I told T-Mobile I'd cancel and get Google Fi if they didn't leave my Sprint plan alone. [23:15] DaemonFC So they did. [23:15] XRevan86 He's probably not as noteworthy. Myasnikov said that dumb shit. [23:16] DaemonFC They pay for my AAA membership and I get a free tow every now and then. [23:16] DaemonFC My battery died and they came out and jumped it last year. [23:16] schestowitz Ru has more deaths than uk, but who's to trust the numbers? [23:16] schestowitz also, testing levels vary [23:17] schestowitz we have a crisis brewing [23:17] schestowitz we might soon have a million infections a week unless drastic measures are taken [23:17] DaemonFC Oh, schestowitz I pulled my CLUE report. [23:17] schestowitz what is that? [23:17] DaemonFC MetroMile reported a claim in 2016 when I requested a tow for the Crown Victoria when a brake line failed. [23:18] DaemonFC They sent a tow truck to State street in Chicago when I was in Fort Wayne, Indiana. [23:18] DaemonFC Many people complain about this. You get roadside from your car insurance, and pay extra, but it's a claim if you use it. [23:19] DaemonFC So the better thing to do is pay for AAA where it isn't a claim. [23:37] schestowitz http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/07/10/unified-patent-court-a-lot-closer-after-decision-german-fcc/#comments [23:37] schestowitz " [23:37] schestowitz Top3 countries where the most patents where filed were UK, France, Germany. [23:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Unified Patent Court a lot closer after decision German FCC - Kluwer Patent Blog [23:37] schestowitz Replacing UK with Italy is a gross illegal way to put the treaty into force in order to avoid renegociations. [23:37] schestowitz The VCLT do not allow for such creative interpretation. [23:37] schestowitz " [23:42] *psydroid_ has quit (connection closed) [23:49] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [23:54] DaemonFC schestowitz, That's a nice trick isn't it? Pay us for Roadside, which we negotiate to get very cheaply from the same service providers as AAA. Then when you use it, it's a claim and we raise your insurance rates. [23:55] DaemonFC Roadside is so cheap that I got a year of it for free for buying a set of $50 tires once.