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schestowitzhmmm... it uses colour thoughNov 11 00:00
schestowitzwe cannot do shades in utf-8 filesNov 11 00:00
schestowitzfim isn't fit for purpose thenNov 11 00:01
schestowitzgiving up on this for nowNov 11 00:01
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: The Raspberry Pi 400 - A full computer in a keyboard! http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143919#comment-27105 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7027b405-5c52-42bd-9794-d4de3635902a]Nov 11 01:31
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: This New System76 Linux Laptop Packs Something Special http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144229#comment-27106 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4bb5f46c-b384-45ba-be8c-31ae2e5d0f4b]Nov 11 01:38
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕋𝕦𝕩 𝕄𝕒𝕔𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕖𝕤 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144234 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f537ccb9-4d84-4530-8e4c-274b18571302]Nov 11 01:48
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Google, Andreessen Horowitz lead $29M round for Linux kernel networking startup Isovalent • 𝕋𝕦𝕩 𝕄𝕒𝕔𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕖𝕤 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144235 [https://pleroma.site/objects/544d49da-23a6-442e-ba56-76b3e7168039]Nov 11 02:26
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Fedora and IBM/Red Hat Leftovers • 𝕋𝕦𝕩 𝕄𝕒𝕔𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕖𝕤 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144236 [https://pleroma.site/objects/52eac525-17c4-4d05-bea0-d75080e8eea5]Nov 11 02:28
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Security Leftovers • 𝕋𝕦𝕩 𝕄𝕒𝕔𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕖𝕤 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144237 [https://pleroma.site/objects/365d910a-d15f-468e-bd04-1e5102bfcf1f]Nov 11 02:44
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Linux 5.9.8, 5.4.77, 4.19.157, 4.14.206, 4.9.243, and 4.4.243 released with #security fix http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144227#comment-27107 [https://pleroma.site/objects/5850af07-0d6b-483c-9b40-829f9ff3274e]Nov 11 02:49
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: KDE Plasma 5.20.3 Desktop Update Arrives with More Than 30 Bug Fixes • 𝕋𝕦𝕩 𝕄𝕒𝕔𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕖𝕤 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144233 [https://pleroma.site/objects/11dcddbf-84df-4c93-ad4f-73958fbbde0e]Nov 11 02:58
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Audiocasts/Shows: Talk Python To Me Podcast, Vifm and LINUX Unplugged • 𝕋𝕦𝕩 𝕄𝕒𝕔𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕖𝕤 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144239 [https://pleroma.site/objects/5ed1cfbe-4e9c-471c-bc5d-d7da3b3b9a66]Nov 11 03:12
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Ubuntu 20.10 Gets Its First Linux Kernel Security Patch, Update Now • 𝕋𝕦𝕩 𝕄𝕒𝕔𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕖𝕤 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144238 [https://pleroma.site/objects/599e376b-7141-48cd-beff-66a48dd6636b]Nov 11 03:14
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: SDL2, Everafter Falls and Godot • 𝕋𝕦𝕩 𝕄𝕒𝕔𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕖𝕤 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144240 [https://pleroma.site/objects/37eb7827-aa8a-401a-902c-74f8b9c7e0de]Nov 11 03:23
DaemonFC[m]That's nice.Nov 11 03:27
DaemonFC[m]I got a Firefox ESR 78.5 upgrade and it says no release notes yet.Nov 11 03:27
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peppe8oHelloNov 11 06:55
peppe8oI whould like to speak with Roy SchestowitzNov 11 06:55
peppe8ohow can I do?Nov 11 06:55
peppe8o(Mr. Roy Schestowitz)Nov 11 06:55
peppe8osomeone available in this channel???Nov 11 07:02
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: MX Linux 19.3 Released with Latest Debian Buster 10.6 Updates, BleedingTooth Patches http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144241 [https://pleroma.site/objects/82c8bc96-3811-4ee6-9e84-bb88aec2fe36]Nov 11 07:47
scientesschestowitz, ^Nov 11 07:51
schestowitz saw thatNov 11 07:52
schestowitzand spoke with him/herNov 11 07:52
scientesoh hes goneNov 11 07:52
scientesas alwaysNov 11 07:52
schestowitzit's settled nowNov 11 07:52
schestowitzspoke privatelyNov 11 07:52
scientesppl that don't know how to IRCNov 11 07:52
schestowitzyeahNov 11 07:52
schestowitzor how the Web worksNov 11 07:52
schestowitzhe thinks that us linking to his site can harm the siteNov 11 07:52
scienteswowNov 11 07:52
schestowitzseriouslyNov 11 07:53
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schestowitzhttps://danielpocock.com/withdrawing-fedora-council-nomination-2020/ Nov 11 08:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-danielpocock.com | Withdrawing my nomination for Fedora CouncilNov 11 08:01
schestowitz"Nov 11 08:01
schestowitzThe deadline for Fedora Council nominations is tomorrow, 11 November. I've decided to withdraw my nomination and I'd like to do so publicly so that anybody else who wants to contest the position has an opportunity to hastily submit a nomination in the hours that remain before the deadline. </p>Nov 11 08:01
schestowitz                    <p> Even without going as far as the voting stage, I believe my brief campaign has already achieved some remarkable things. Nov 11 08:01
schestowitz"Nov 11 08:01
schestowitzhttps://daniel.haxx.se/us-visa.html#got-itNov 11 08:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-daniel.haxx.se | Time it took for Daniel to get a US visaNov 11 08:02
schestowitz"Nov 11 08:02
schestowitz937 days since my application, I have a visa in my passport. Valid for 10 years. </p>Nov 11 08:02
schestowitz                    <p> As an unexpected bonus, there's also a 30 days "NIE" (National Interest Exception) that allows me a single entry to the US during "PP" (Presidential Proclamations) - which is restricting travels to the US from the European Schengen zone.Nov 11 08:02
schestowitz"Nov 11 08:02
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scientesXRevan86, you quoted my MEH response to the ambition of azerbaijan, but I feel that is the approach that Tolstoy was takingNov 11 08:25
scientesthe book started out with the title War, what is it good for?Nov 11 08:25
scientesI've had women come at me with this "men are violent creatures" attitude, and when you just turn it right back on them they don't know what to do.Nov 11 08:27
scientesMEH really is the most human response, because any other response requires creating a US and a tHEMNov 11 08:28
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scientes(and if you are caught in the violence, sometimes that is warranted)Nov 11 08:37
scienteswhich is why it is written "do not think of what you will say, as the word will come to you"Nov 11 08:37
scientes*wordsNov 11 08:37
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: The Raspberry Pi 400 is Awesome! A Computer in A Keyboard! • 𝕋𝕦𝕩 𝕄𝕒𝕔𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕖𝕤 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144242 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f6194e9a-4084-42cf-b899-4b75c2dd9d6f]Nov 11 08:46
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: The Raspberry Pi 400 is Awesome! A Computer in A Keyboard! • 𝕋𝕦𝕩 𝕄𝕒𝕔𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕖𝕤 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144242 [https://pleroma.site/objects/3cd35423-66ee-4724-bc9e-da4d233d366c]Nov 11 08:48
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Why I use Home Assistant [sic] for #freesw home automation • 𝕋𝕦𝕩 𝕄𝕒𝕔𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕖𝕤 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144243 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #News [https://pleroma.site/objects/9e5d6f81-d005-472c-ad4b-3b66b21418be]Nov 11 08:49
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: How I use Cockpit for my home’s Linux server management • 𝕋𝕦𝕩 𝕄𝕒𝕔𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕖𝕤 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144244 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d72e1c96-fa93-4af3-b42f-ce9ce07dd832]Nov 11 08:51
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: New Galago Pro Linux Laptop Arrives With Refresh Look, Upgraded Specs http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144229#comment-27109 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c770b9e6-5d5e-47f0-b345-1c6cec472bf5]Nov 11 08:53
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers • 𝕋𝕦𝕩 𝕄𝕒𝕔𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕖𝕤 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144245 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f5ec43ca-8c97-4524-a26b-a17a1cd9a26a]Nov 11 08:57
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vZS1Tor browser 10.0.4 has a pretty sparse changelogNov 11 09:39
vZS1Just rememberd to update my buildNov 11 09:40
schestowitzis tor still 'military-grade'?Nov 11 09:53
schestowitzsome say industrial-grade'Nov 11 09:53
schestowitzmilitary-industrial complex comes to mindNov 11 09:53
schestowitzTor might be the "best we have"(TM)Nov 11 09:53
scientesit could be much faster if it used UDP as a transportNov 11 09:57
scientesTCP-over-TCP is really dumbNov 11 09:57
vZS1I only use Tor for browsingNov 11 09:58
scientesalthough it is quite an accomplishmentNov 11 09:58
vZS1I wouldn't trust it with any sensitive dataNov 11 09:59
vZS1To me it's just a basic privacy tool. Nothing else.Nov 11 10:00
scientesI don't trust any software organization that asks for open-ended (not feature-specific) donationsNov 11 10:01
vZS1Any system where you rely on relays is prone to exploitationNov 11 10:01
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scientesbecause anyone that knows anything about software knows that developent doesn't work that wayNov 11 10:01
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scienteswindows sucks BECAUSE you pay for itNov 11 10:02
vZS1schestowitz: it's not like when I SSH into your Pi. We don't even use DNS for that. It's a pretty secure workflow we have there.Nov 11 10:02
vZS1We have an established relationship of trust. You know my IP, I know yours. Based on that relationship we use methods to allow real privacy and security between the two of usNov 11 10:05
schestowitzvZS1: questionNov 11 10:05
schestowitzwould having in bulletin CIDs of previous bulletins be useful?Nov 11 10:05
vZS1Yeah. That's a good ideaNov 11 10:06
schestowitzat end or start?Nov 11 10:06
vZS1I'd say startNov 11 10:06
schestowitzI cannot name the cid for current one as it needs to be generated before it's put on ipfsNov 11 10:06
vZS1Yeah but that's what the index is forNov 11 10:07
schestowitzi can use the index online to pull that part of the bulletin fromNov 11 10:08
schestowitzinstead of rerunning a commandNov 11 10:08
vZS1I just use wget to grab the indexNov 11 10:08
vZS1The URI is easy enough to memoriseNov 11 10:08
schestowitzcan you paste here your parser of the indexNov 11 10:09
schestowitzwith cut and all?Nov 11 10:09
schestowitzthat might give a good 'starting point'Nov 11 10:09
schestowitzBTW, the Pi's IP addressed rolled over yesterday after a disconnectionNov 11 10:09
vZS1Give me a secNov 11 10:09
vZS1Just email me the new IP addressNov 11 10:10
schestowitzsent in another channelNov 11 10:10
schestowitzthe unlogged oneNov 11 10:10
vZS1That works tooNov 11 10:10
schestowitzI might start linking less within articlesNov 11 10:10
schestowitzseeing that over time more people just read the text versionNov 11 10:11
schestowitzso it's more like printed newsNov 11 10:11
schestowitzafter you went to bed I gave up on doing image-to-unicodeNov 11 10:11
schestowitzwithout colour in the mix (or shades) it's hard to get useful images -- the terminal tools I downloaded yesterday rely on colourNov 11 10:11
vZS1Just make IPFS objects out of the real imagesNov 11 10:12
vZS1Compress them with xzNov 11 10:12
vZS1Problem solvedNov 11 10:12
schestowitzit would be a lot of work (coding)Nov 11 10:12
schestowitzand big volumeNov 11 10:12
schestowitzthe images are hugeNov 11 10:12
vZS1xz has the best ratios aroundNov 11 10:12
vZS1Try itNov 11 10:12
vZS1`xz --compress --keep -9 /path/to/image`Nov 11 10:13
MinceRyou could just process it so that you end up with bracketed numbers in the text and a list of numbers and URLs afterwards :>Nov 11 10:13
schestowitzMinceR: I tried thatNov 11 10:14
schestowitzhad python issuesNov 11 10:14
MinceRmaybe lynx can do it for youNov 11 10:14
schestowitzdoes it have pipe mode?Nov 11 10:14
MinceRnot sureNov 11 10:14
schestowitzdont' think soNov 11 10:15
schestowitzit's interactiveNov 11 10:15
MinceRi think it can render html to text with links processed as stated aboveNov 11 10:15
schestowitzit's not a tool for converting a page into fixed asciiNov 11 10:15
MinceR-dumpNov 11 10:15
MinceRand yes, it goes to stdoutNov 11 10:15
schestowitzor maybe for each article, not Daily Links, we can present two modesNov 11 10:15
schestowitzlet's tryNov 11 10:15
vZS1You should take advantage of IPFS's content-based addressingNov 11 10:16
vZS1You can include entire archives in a bulletinNov 11 10:17
schestowitzwhat's your parser for the index like?Nov 11 10:17
vZS1Oh yeahNov 11 10:17
vZS1It's pretty simpleNov 11 10:17
schestowitze.g. for past 7 daysNov 11 10:17
schestowitzthis way next bulletin will include thatNov 11 10:18
schestowitz'Previous bulletins in IPFS:'  >> $IRCDATEFILENov 11 10:18
vZS1I use `wget http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt -O txt` as a scrpt in my Git repo for the indexNov 11 10:19
vZS1Then I run the script:Nov 11 10:19
vZS1`for i in $(cut -d ' ' -f 1 < txt); do ipfs pin add "${i}"; done`Nov 11 10:20
schestowitz$ wget -q -O-  http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt | grep bulletin | tail -n7Nov 11 10:23
schestowitzQme6tUQz9HbrFEyLrXZYhJEVcqahaSMEEhmSsv1qky5Lux techrights-2020-11-04 (daily bulletin as plain text)Nov 11 10:23
schestowitzQma1Q1kNahagEkgXL7GiboNFEfw1WofSG4qB8nh3nes1Vf techrights-2020-11-05 (daily bulletin as plain text)Nov 11 10:23
schestowitzQmYHrR1P7YFy5prPQ3pAK1DZaGm7Mrr75NwK4VhUeFsTLD techrights-2020-11-06 (daily bulletin as plain text)Nov 11 10:23
schestowitzQmZ3Yy7uWVtMyGfgaCQYtpcJZBxS2LoLEFZPgRSiYBF73w techrights-2020-11-07 (daily bulletin as plain text)Nov 11 10:23
schestowitzQmUzg7gYUYeQZnNpRqRFQDoWcbEZUSphfYKmDhSpEWWSMS techrights-2020-11-08 (daily bulletin as plain text)Nov 11 10:23
schestowitzQmZqXrn8HKzFhZxbxuxfob86u5iANXocM81qQoKops1KiF techrights-2020-11-09 (daily bulletin as plain text)Nov 11 10:23
schestowitzQmQjedfsHmNZWLhwmpa4tVdn76zcDGmMHAfJ4E11EuRhwJ techrights-2020-11-10 (daily bulletin as plain text)Nov 11 10:23
MinceRhttps://isthisacoup.com/Nov 11 10:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-isthisacoup.com | Is this a coup? Home of the Coup-o-meterNov 11 10:26
vZS1It's a good thing I got my bluetooth keyboard out. Makes typing code on my phone so much easier.Nov 11 10:28
vZS1Highly recommendNov 11 10:28
vZS1I use a TeckNet X366Nov 11 10:29
schestowitzI'm testing it nowNov 11 10:30
vZS1I paid £11.99 for it. Over a year now without any battery or key issues.Nov 11 10:31
vZS1@scheNov 11 10:32
vZS1schestowitz: should work. It's a really dumb script.Nov 11 10:32
schestowitz╒═══════════════════ RECENT BULLETINS ════════════════════════════════╕Nov 11 10:34
schestowitzPrevious bulletins in IPFS:Nov 11 10:34
schestowitzQme6tUQz9HbrFEyLrXZYhJEVcqahaSMEEhmSsv1qky5LuxNov 11 10:34
schestowitzQma1Q1kNahagEkgXL7GiboNFEfw1WofSG4qB8nh3nes1VfNov 11 10:34
schestowitzQmYHrR1P7YFy5prPQ3pAK1DZaGm7Mrr75NwK4VhUeFsTLDNov 11 10:34
schestowitzQmZ3Yy7uWVtMyGfgaCQYtpcJZBxS2LoLEFZPgRSiYBF73wNov 11 10:34
schestowitzQmUzg7gYUYeQZnNpRqRFQDoWcbEZUSphfYKmDhSpEWWSMSNov 11 10:34
schestowitzQmZqXrn8HKzFhZxbxuxfob86u5iANXocM81qQoKops1KiFNov 11 10:34
schestowitzQmQjedfsHmNZWLhwmpa4tVdn76zcDGmMHAfJ4E11EuRhwJNov 11 10:34
schestowitzdoes that look good and simple enough to parse?Nov 11 10:34
schestowitzfrom each bulletin, past 7 daysNov 11 10:34
MinceRbluetooth is insecureNov 11 10:34
vZS1Not exactly worried about my security for typing into IRC chat lolNov 11 10:35
vZS1schestowitz: yeah. Ican juts grab that with tmux easily.Nov 11 10:35
schestowitzI will add a reference to the full ipfs indicesNov 11 10:35
vZS1Good ideaNov 11 10:36
schestowitzFull IPFS index in http://techrights.org/ipfs/ and as plain text in http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt/Nov 11 10:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS IndexNov 11 10:37
schestowitzhmmm...Nov 11 10:37
schestowitzno trailing slashes neededNov 11 10:37
vZS1One of the great confusion points of anything unixNov 11 10:38
vZS1The amount of times I fucked up my rsync scripts because of the trailing slash semanticsNov 11 10:38
vZS1too many lolNov 11 10:38
schestowitzone day I might make them filesNov 11 10:40
schestowitznot dirsNov 11 10:40
schestowitzand files cannot have those slashesNov 11 10:40
schestowitzexcept with redirections set upNov 11 10:40
schestowitzthis is php 'faking' being a text fileNov 11 10:41
schestowitzand loading in the text filesNov 11 10:41
vZS1I'm going to head off and do some work now. Catch you all later.Nov 11 10:42
schestowitzhttps://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tor-browser-1004 Nov 11 10:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.torproject.org | New Release: Tor Browser 10.0.4 | Tor BlogNov 11 10:53
schestowitz"With COVID-19 pandemic this year, we didn’t have the chance to ‘tour’ our State of the Onion during any face-to-face conferences." https://blog.torproject.org/state-of-the-onion-2020 Nov 11 10:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.torproject.org | You’re Invited: State of the Onion 2020 | Tor BlogNov 11 10:54
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oiaohmMinceR: horrible part bluetooth is more secure than some countries telephone networks.Nov 11 12:23
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XRevan86https://mariadb.com/kb/en/mariadb-1058-release-notes/Nov 11 12:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-MariaDB 10.5.8 Release Notes - MariaDB Knowledge BaseNov 11 12:40
XRevan86scientes: https://youtu.be/E1X8wkk_HsQ some analytics on Karabakh (in Russian)Nov 11 13:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Карабахский Деребан или Сбывшийся, к Сожалению, Прогноз - YouTubeNov 11 13:04
vZS1> "With COVID-19 pandemic this year, we didn’t have the chance to ‘tour’ our State of the Onion during any face-to-face conferences." https://blog.torproject.org/state-of-the-onion-2020 Nov 11 13:25
vZS1Aka we don't care. Otherwise we could have just discussed in a forum or VoIP.Nov 11 13:26
schestowitzwho are they accountable to?Nov 11 13:26
schestowitzThey sacked ioerrorNov 11 13:26
vZS1I have no bloody clueNov 11 13:27
schestowitzTheir chief I never trusted.Nov 11 13:27
vZS1At m I'm pretty sure Tor is finishedNov 11 13:27
schestowitzsomeone I never heard of beforehandNov 11 13:27
vZS1And I'm*Nov 11 13:27
schestowitzseems to have been chosen on "diversity" criteria tbhNov 11 13:27
schestowitzand for pointing that out alone I can receive flakNov 11 13:27
vZS1They made it really hard for people to find the Unix docsNov 11 13:27
vZS1Try looking on their websiteNov 11 13:27
schestowitzthey sacked many people this yearNov 11 13:27
schestowitziirc, 35% of their staffNov 11 13:28
schestowitzafter already sacking some of the most trusted devsNov 11 13:28
schestowitzand demonising themNov 11 13:28
schestowitzas "posers"Nov 11 13:28
schestowitzlike those who lead the projects aren'tNov 11 13:28
schestowitzmaybe they can promote signal like the EFFNov 11 13:28
vZS1That's why these projects shoot themselves in the foot by making their ops so brittle.Nov 11 13:28
schestowitzgo download from Microsoft/NSANov 11 13:28
schestowitz(GitHib)Nov 11 13:29
schestowitz(GitHub)Nov 11 13:29
schestowitz[13:22] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊): ● NEWS ● #TechDirt ☞ EU Takes Another Small Step Towards Trying To Ban #Crypto ; New Paper Argues Tech Can Nerd Harder To #Backdoor #Encryption https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20201109/00092045673/eu-takes-another-small-step-towards-trying-to-ban-encrypt... [https://pleroma.site/objects/05ee5503-cb1a-4a40-aa8f-4e4a77b5bf5a]Nov 11 13:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-EU Takes Another Small Step Towards Trying To Ban Encryption; New Paper Argues Tech Can Nerd Harder To Backdoor Encryption | TechdirtNov 11 13:29
schestowitzmins agoNov 11 13:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.siteNov 11 13:29
vZS1You should try to get in touch with the original devs and see if they want to fork the projectNov 11 13:29
schestowitzWhen they had wikileaks on board you could believe they're anti-authorityNov 11 13:30
schestowitznot after they fired themNov 11 13:30
schestowitzall that's left to me is their navy rootsNov 11 13:30
schestowitzMilitary hegemonyNov 11 13:30
vZS1Even the navy can do goodNov 11 13:30
vZS1Depends who's in chargeNov 11 13:30
schestowitzused toNov 11 13:31
vZS1Yeah. I don't like throwing assumptions aroundNov 11 13:31
schestowitz[13:29] <vZS1> You should try to get in touch with the original devs and see if they want to fork the projectNov 11 13:31
schestowitzI have no sway in cryptowarsNov 11 13:31
schestowitzoutside my ballparkNov 11 13:31
vZS1This isn't really cryptoNov 11 13:31
schestowitztails uses torNov 11 13:31
schestowitzbut would use something elseNov 11 13:31
vZS1This is more privacyNov 11 13:31
schestowitzlike many moved to libresslNov 11 13:31
schestowitzvZS1: it relies on crypto at the layers of the onionNov 11 13:32
schestowitzotherwise you could follow around easily the packetsNov 11 13:32
vZS1But so does most of the internetNov 11 13:32
schestowitzso-calledNov 11 13:32
schestowitzso-called InternetNov 11 13:32
schestowitzso-called cryptoNov 11 13:32
schestowitzweakenedNov 11 13:32
schestowitzmeansNov 11 13:32
schestowitzfakeNov 11 13:32
vZS1YepNov 11 13:32
schestowitz"weakened"Nov 11 13:32
schestowitz[enter mini me meme]Nov 11 13:32
vZS1This is a binary situationNov 11 13:33
vZS1There is no in betweenNov 11 13:33
vZS1Either your system is true or falseNov 11 13:33
schestowitz https://youtu.be/miCPfjucsB8Nov 11 13:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bert Hubert, PowerDNS - Encryption, data protection and law enforcement - YouTubeNov 11 13:33
vZS1The discussion ends thereNov 11 13:33
schestowitzBerlin Wall eraNov 11 13:33
vZS1But we're in an echo chamber hereNov 11 13:33
schestowitzwhere?Nov 11 13:34
schestowitzcorporate media maybeNov 11 13:34
vZS1I'd say it's a good idea to push all these developments in the bulletinsNov 11 13:34
schestowitzthis channel isn't a bunch of foolsNov 11 13:34
schestowitzit's there under the right sectionNov 11 13:34
vZS1I mean us talking about fake E2EENov 11 13:34
schestowitzusually privacy/surveillance and securityNov 11 13:34
schestowitzI cannot write much about it because I'm no expert in that areaNov 11 13:34
schestowitzand would be prone to making errorsNov 11 13:34
vZS1I can proofread for youNov 11 13:35
schestowitzI can do guest postsNov 11 13:35
schestowitzproofreading isn't the issueNov 11 13:35
schestowitzit's the knowledgeNov 11 13:35
vZS1AhNov 11 13:35
vZS1Okay then.Nov 11 13:35
schestowitztypos aren't as bad as factual errorsNov 11 13:35
vZS1I'll write a guest postNov 11 13:35
schestowitzsomeone sent me a long messageNov 11 13:35
schestowitzmaybe I can reuse that a bit when the occasion arisesNov 11 13:35
schestowitzguest posts can help tooNov 11 13:35
schestowitzeven reused from other pieces, old book chapters etc.Nov 11 13:36
schestowitzright now I focus on patents and epoNov 11 13:36
vZS1You alright if it's long-form? Because I'd want it to be readable by everyone.Nov 11 13:36
schestowitzlong form is excellentNov 11 13:36
schestowitzand it can be partly reusedNov 11 13:37
vZS1I'll establish definitions right at the start so readers can see the conclusionNov 11 13:37
schestowitzif that helps, as long as with correct copyright/attribution etc.Nov 11 13:37
vZS1See = grasp easilyNov 11 13:37
schestowitzthe premise/starting point, for us at least:Nov 11 13:37
schestowitzencryption that works is rareNov 11 13:37
schestowitzwhat media promotes is mostly fakeNov 11 13:37
schestowitzEFF alsoNov 11 13:37
schestowitzmany things should be presumed corpromisedNov 11 13:37
schestowitz(because they are)Nov 11 13:37
vZS1But Techrights isn't fake (!Nov 11 13:37
vZS1(;Nov 11 13:38
schestowitzsome are not even aware of itNov 11 13:38
schestowitzor only people at a higher level are awareNov 11 13:38
vZS1I'll spend my weekend working on itNov 11 13:38
schestowitzTechrights is "FAKE NOOSE" - Donald TrumpNov 11 13:38
vZS1Will email you a draft, when it's ready.Nov 11 13:38
schestowitzpeople who call out "fake" are sometimes the exposedNov 11 13:38
schestowitzcheersNov 11 13:38
vZS1Also. If you've got the ipfs plaintext in an index, you can use this post-commit hook script that I will share shortlyNov 11 13:39
schestowitzfor the record, areas I'm comfortable with are (c)/patent law, maths, programming (esp. computer vision)Nov 11 13:40
schestowitznow so much hardware (low level), encryption routinesNov 11 13:40
vZS1Just make a file called "post-commit", move it to ".git/hooks/" and set the file to executableNov 11 13:40
schestowitzI'll need to check the code in thatNov 11 13:41
vZS1https://pastebin.com/2QTSm5bnNov 11 13:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-#!/usr/bin/bash# Update ipfs pins, after a commit is made. printf "Updat - Pastebin.comNov 11 13:42
schestowitzmama told me not to run them bin from stranjaasNov 11 13:42
vZS1That's why I'm sending you the code lolNov 11 13:42
schestowitzwhich git install is that for?Nov 11 13:43
schestowitzohNov 11 13:43
schestowitzthe rapi has gitNov 11 13:43
schestowitzdid I install that?Nov 11 13:43
schestowitzdid the pi come with it preloaded in the OS?Nov 11 13:43
vZS1Comes with Git nowNov 11 13:44
schestowitzok, waitNov 11 13:44
schestowitzdoneNov 11 13:46
vZS1I did promise lolNov 11 13:47
schestowitzit's there in rootNov 11 13:47
schestowitzor maybe should in in pi, waitNov 11 13:47
vZS1The hook needs to be called "post-commit"Nov 11 13:47
schestowitzgit isn't even configured for anything yetNov 11 13:47
schestowitzit isNov 11 13:47
schestowitzin .git/hooksNov 11 13:47
vZS1Yeah. For that repoNov 11 13:48
schestowitzchmod 755Nov 11 13:48
vZS1700 is betterNov 11 13:48
schestowitzokNov 11 13:48
vZS1And set it to executableNov 11 13:48
vZS1Otherwise it won't workNov 11 13:48
vZS1Pi has old GitNov 11 13:48
schestowitzanyway, I think it's there nowNov 11 13:48
vZS1Are you running the ipfs daemon on my account?Nov 11 13:49
schestowitzyou have the new ip addressNov 11 13:49
vZS1YeahNov 11 13:49
schestowitzand can git on your accountNov 11 13:49
vZS1TyNov 11 13:49
schestowitzvZS1: it's always on that accountNov 11 13:49
vZS1Just checkingNov 11 13:49
vZS1I haven't logged in in daysNov 11 13:50
schestowitzBandwidthNov 11 13:50
schestowitzTotalIn: 6.1 GBNov 11 13:50
schestowitzTotalOut: 2.5 GBNov 11 13:50
vZS1Been busyNov 11 13:50
vZS1Let me check mineNov 11 13:51
vZS1In 4.6GBNov 11 13:51
vZS1Out 2.9 GBNov 11 13:51
vZS1People spend way more bandwidth just watching YouTube in a dayNov 11 13:52
vZS1And this is over multiple days lolNov 11 13:53
schestowitzwhat's a youtube? oh... yewtubeNov 11 13:54
schestowitzit's playing all day long hereNov 11 13:54
schestowitzlandscapes and underwater stuffNov 11 13:54
vZS1Re: Tor. I haven't looked into that kind of stuff in ages. Last similar thing I did was SOCKS proxy workNov 11 13:55
vZS1But anyone reasonable should be able to see that the project looks fairly over nowNov 11 13:56
vZS1They sacked the people that really careNov 11 13:56
schestowitzmy point from earlierNov 11 13:59
schestowitzfirst oustedNov 11 13:59
schestowitzthan also sackedNov 11 13:59
schestowitzwho's left?Nov 11 13:59
schestowitzThe admins?Nov 11 13:59
schestowitzWho don't know jack about programming?Nov 11 13:59
vZS1And there's no lack of devs they can just drop into placeNov 11 13:59
schestowitzand merely do "the talking"?Nov 11 13:59
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vZS1Whether they do a good job or not is irrelevantNov 11 14:00
schestowitzthey cannot assess incoming patches and background checks of staff (and their commits)Nov 11 14:00
schestowitzyou don't need a line of code for a back doorsNov 11 14:00
schestowitz*back doorNov 11 14:00
schestowitza few characters sufficeNov 11 14:00
vZS1It's like ematNov 11 14:00
schestowitzif constructed cleverlyNov 11 14:00
vZS1emailNov 11 14:00
vZS1Probably the most insecure protocol suite in historyNov 11 14:01
schestowitzto cause a buffer to overflow onto another particular buffer with entropy generationNov 11 14:01
vZS1God do I hate emailNov 11 14:01
schestowitzjoin the clubNov 11 14:01
schestowitzand it's usually not secure eitherNov 11 14:01
vZS1YepNov 11 14:01
schestowitzso it's worse than IRCNov 11 14:01
schestowitzthe spies have good tools for tapping emailNov 11 14:01
vZS1IRC is far betterNov 11 14:01
schestowitzfreenode and logs are "not in the manual"Nov 11 14:01
CrystalMathUSENET!!!Nov 11 14:01
schestowitz(call center humour)Nov 11 14:02
vZS1LolNov 11 14:02
schestowitzbut it's not the fault of emailNov 11 14:02
vZS1I've done extensive work on SMTPNov 11 14:02
schestowitzit's an old protocolNov 11 14:02
vZS1It wasn't funNov 11 14:02
schestowitzinvented by a a fraud :-)Nov 11 14:02
schestowitzactually military contractorNov 11 14:02
schestowitzthe fraud Shiva threatened me with litigationNov 11 14:02
schestowitzthrough Trump's lawyerNov 11 14:02
vZS1Btw, do you have an ipfs node running on your personal computer?Nov 11 14:03
schestowitzbecause I called him out on lying about inventing email... right after the real inventor had diedNov 11 14:03
vZS1That way I don't need to feed pastebin spywareNov 11 14:03
schestowitzno, I don't want ipfs on my production machineNov 11 14:03
schestowitzseems unsafe tbhNov 11 14:03
schestowitzother people's traffic relayed through mineNov 11 14:03
vZS1I can just post source code CIDs here thenNov 11 14:03
vZS1You can just turn off the daemon Nov 11 14:03
vZS1Run as a different userNov 11 14:04
vZS1That's what I doNov 11 14:04
vZS1Nothing committed or fancyNov 11 14:04
schestowitzI have 6 machines hereNov 11 14:04
vZS1Complicated*Nov 11 14:04
schestowitzI might as well offload that to oneNov 11 14:04
vZS1YeahNov 11 14:04
vZS1Then I can send stuff a lot easierNov 11 14:04
vZS1We can just exchange CIDsNov 11 14:04
schestowitzI never even install nonfree s/w on my main machineNov 11 14:04
schestowitzssh is also secureNov 11 14:05
schestowitzyou could chat with ytalkNov 11 14:05
schestowitzbut it's arcaneNov 11 14:05
schestowitzwe tried it beforeNov 11 14:05
schestowitzlogging those is really difficultNov 11 14:05
schestowitzso we gave uNov 11 14:05
schestowitzupNov 11 14:05
schestowitzafaict, it has not been maintained in decadesNov 11 14:06
schestowitzhey, let's set up a sLack channel!!!! /saRCASMNov 11 14:06
vZS1Dear God noNov 11 14:06
vZS1You knowNov 11 14:07
vZS1I used to annoy some people by posting straight to their ptyNov 11 14:07
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schestowitzI opened their CD trayNov 11 14:09
schestowitzwhen PCs still came with one as standardNov 11 14:09
vZS1You don't need anything fancy to do chat over SSHNov 11 14:09
vZS1Just set a file to append-onlyNov 11 14:09
vZS1And get everyone to write to thatNov 11 14:09
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vZS1Can view real-time with tail(1)Nov 11 14:10
vZS1You can do timestamps and usernames in a message with command substitution and printfNov 11 14:11
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schestowitztmuxNov 11 14:11
schestowitztwo panesNov 11 14:11
vZS1YepNov 11 14:11
schestowitzcat / >> in oneNov 11 14:11
schestowitztail -f in the otherNov 11 14:11
vZS1I'd say hard-set the file to append-onlyNov 11 14:12
vZS1So someone doesn't nuke it by accidentNov 11 14:12
schestowitzread onlyNov 11 14:12
schestowitzfor each userNov 11 14:12
schestowitzthe other person only writes to the otherNov 11 14:12
schestowitzbut can do otrNov 11 14:13
schestowitzby emptying itNov 11 14:13
vZS1Doesn't work that well for more than two people thoughNov 11 14:13
vZS1Best to just have everyone appending to one fileNov 11 14:13
schestowitz(main) in the middleNov 11 14:14
schestowitzvoids the fileNov 11 14:14
schestowitzreturn void;Nov 11 14:15
schestowitzanyway, better get back to posting news nowNov 11 14:15
schestowitzI fell behindNov 11 14:15
schestowitzpartly intentionally... took advantage of day off gym to post new EPO docs/lettersNov 11 14:16
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vZS1CyaNov 11 14:28
schestowitzlaterNov 11 14:30
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MinceR11 132348 < oiaohm> MinceR: horrible part bluetooth is more secure than some countries telephone networks.Nov 11 15:51
MinceRat least you might be able to run a VPN on top of a telephone connectionNov 11 15:51
MinceRno peripheral or host is likely to support that for bluetooth input devicesNov 11 15:52
oiaohmMinceR: you can horrible run IP over bluetooth so you can VPN it.Nov 11 15:52
MinceRhell, they aren't even willing to support Secure Simple Pairing in devices, they just hardwire a PIN and call it a dayNov 11 15:52
oiaohmYep the old party line phone line security.Nov 11 15:53
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MinceRhttps://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/2729.htmlNov 11 16:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geekculture.com | The Joy of Tech comic... Back to School Sale.Nov 11 16:20
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MinceR(no audio) https://i.imgur.com/L0JfYdt.mp4Nov 11 16:37
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XRevan86https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/11/ink-stained-wretches-battle-soul-digital-freedom-taking-place-inside-your-printer "HP's latest gambit challenges the basis of private property itself" – wait, aren't they lawyers? they should know the distinction between personal ("end user") property and private property.Nov 11 17:11
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XRevan86HP is a private company, their leased an ink cartridge or something, I'm pretty sure what they did is perfectly within private property rights.Nov 11 17:12
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schestowitz> I wish Microsoft would stop trying to control everything! *moves largeNov 11 17:49
schestowitz> project team to Github*Nov 11 17:49
schestowitz> Nov 11 17:49
schestowitz> DaemonFC[m]Nov 11 17:49
schestowitz> This is utter crap. We need a new viable political party. It hasNov 11 17:49
schestowitz> happened before.Nov 11 17:49
schestowitzvZS1: Nov 11 17:52
schestowitz$650Nov 11 17:52
schestowitzhttps://www.yubico.com/product/yubihsm-2/Nov 11 17:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Yubico | YubiHSM 2 | Hardware Security Module | USB-ANov 11 17:52
schestowitzCrazy.Nov 11 17:52
schestowitzsomeone sent me this replyNov 11 17:52
vZS1Bunch of overpriced garbageNov 11 18:01
vZS1Tamper-resistant HSMs aren't available to ordinary consumersNov 11 18:02
vZS1And it's a fully closed product which means hello NSA backdoorNov 11 18:02
vZS1And it's a marketing scamNov 11 18:03
vZS1You know a product is shit when you see clueless YouTubers shilling itNov 11 18:05
vZS1That's basically YubicoNov 11 18:05
vZS1I think they're just trying to see how far they can take it nowNov 11 18:06
vZS1It allows concurrent connections and network sharingNov 11 18:08
vZS1Which are both terrible ideaNov 11 18:09
vZS1ideasNov 11 18:09
vZS1For example, I have a smart card which I use only on an offline machine. To prevent memory attacks and such Nov 11 18:09
vZS1Then I have a smart card which I use on online machines.Nov 11 18:10
scienteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTkDMspBhGANov 11 18:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Swan Lake in Ultra HD 4K - YouTubeNov 11 18:12
scientesthat is the only swan lake available in 4KNov 11 18:13
scientesor anything better than 480pNov 11 18:13
schestowitzwhat about nitrokey, vZS1Nov 11 18:13
schestowitz?Nov 11 18:13
schestowitzthey gave up kernel hackers someNov 11 18:13
schestowitzwhich I thought was a PR stuntNov 11 18:13
schestowitzbut I don't know if they use free/libre designsNov 11 18:14
schestowitzor how much they chargeNov 11 18:14
schestowitzlwn did a puff piece about it, iircNov 11 18:14
scientesall the security keys are too expensiveNov 11 18:15
scientesa pretty simple design gets you at under $10Nov 11 18:15
scientesand if you could be as clever as metro cards it would be cheaperNov 11 18:16
scientesI got a FPGA for the price of a security keyNov 11 18:17
vZS1It's open hardware/softwareNov 11 18:18
vZS1Pricing is alright. But could be a lot cheaperNov 11 18:19
scientesthese security keys that are over $50 are rediculousNov 11 18:20
scientesthe electronics in those things are less than $1Nov 11 18:20
vZS1For the average person, you just need something that is physically separate from the consuming deviceNov 11 18:22
scientes<$10 in parts, claims these slides https://tomu.im/fomu.htmlNov 11 18:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tomu.im | Fomu - An FPGA which fits in your USB port. | I’m Tomu - A tiny ARM microprocessor which fits in your USB port.Nov 11 18:22
scientessee $2.15 will get you thereNov 11 18:23
vZS1And has a form of authentication that's physicalNov 11 18:23
scientesthis fomu can be a security keyNov 11 18:23
scientesbecause you can't read a FPGA, only reprogram itNov 11 18:23
scientesand this one is directly hooked up to the usb pinsNov 11 18:23
scientesso you can do anything usb 2.0 canNov 11 18:23
vZS1Anything that advertises more than that is extremely sketchyNov 11 18:24
scientesdude $50 is rediculousNov 11 18:24
scientesand they don't even store keys for youNov 11 18:24
vZS1Because three-letter agencies have equipment that can get to the bits in memoryNov 11 18:24
scientesthey don't even store your keysNov 11 18:25
scientesit is super lame, they only work with dumb web apps, so there is no pointNov 11 18:25
vZS1And hardware that resists that kind of stuff costs in the thousands of $Nov 11 18:25
scientesthere is no security to that, only liabilityNov 11 18:25
scientesvZS1, you are not using your brainNov 11 18:25
scientesthe point of these things is to shift liability, not increase securityNov 11 18:26
vZS1So anything in between something that's equivalent to using an air-gapped machine and a non-consumer grade HSM is not actually giving you a lot of extra protection. Smartcards fall in that middle area but i they only really protect you from people that aren't three-letter agenciesNov 11 18:28
scienteswhat is your threat model?Nov 11 18:29
DaemonFC[m]Sometimes I just want to quote Jayne from Firefly.Nov 11 18:30
vZS1Also, when you go around looking for a top-end HSM, you can bet you've just got yourself onto some sort of listNov 11 18:30
DaemonFC[m]"Do you know what the chain of command is? That's the chain I go and beat you with until you figure out who's in command.".Nov 11 18:30
DaemonFC[m]Did he just go crazy and then pass out? Nov 11 18:31
DaemonFC[m]😁Nov 11 18:31
schestowitzjust got about 8gb of videos from 2001Nov 11 18:36
schestowitzrms includedNov 11 18:36
schestowitzwill post them this coming weekNov 11 18:36
DaemonFC[m]"Secretary of the Commonwealth Kathy Boockvar, who is Pennsylvania's top election official, spoke to reporters yesterday. And while she said a great deal, the most important detail she shared was this: The state received just 10,000 ballots between Election Day and the deadline for receipt on Nov. 6."Nov 11 18:56
*DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/PCpxtuKfeAZoECNYAHLgxvQF/message.txt >Nov 11 18:56
DaemonFC[m]-electoral-vote dot comNov 11 18:56
DaemonFC[m]So even if Trump did get them thrown out (1) some would be for him and (2) even if all of them were for Biden, it would come up 37,000 votes short of reversing the election.Nov 11 18:57
DaemonFC[m]So no judge is going to do that because it would be pointless and even if they did, it wouldn't change the outcome.Nov 11 18:57
smnthermeshttps://kddit.kalli.st/r/pics/comments/jsa03h/now_thats_what_i_call_irony/Nov 11 18:58
DaemonFC[m]Secondly, Biden expanded his lead in Georgia to 14,000 votes.Nov 11 18:58
DaemonFC[m]So it would now take the largest recount turnaround in US history for a state times 13 for Trump to reverse the result there.Nov 11 18:58
DaemonFC[m]Then he's suing to stop the election results from being certified in Michigan, where the same judge who declined to stop the votes from being counted is presiding.Nov 11 18:59
DaemonFC[m]And he's arguing over about a million times too few ballots to change anything in Nevada.Nov 11 18:59
DaemonFC[m]This is absolute hogwash, and the courts are not going to give this too him because it would be a flagrantly stolen election and their decision would cause the entire country to burn down and when people got done doing that, they'd probably kill the judges.Nov 11 19:00
DaemonFC[m]On top of that, those judges have nothing to fear from Trump, who has 70 days left and is powerless to remove any of them from the bench.Nov 11 19:01
DaemonFC[m]The most this will do is muddy the waters a little bit. Not enough to change the election, but enough for him to continue to claim mass fraud after he leaves office, and it's powering a surge of fundraising for his new PAC which is siphoning off nearly all of the "election dispute" money, but you wouldn't know that unless you read the size 1 font in the emails.Nov 11 19:03
DaemonFC[m]Trump is planning a hostile takeover of the RNC once he leaves and this mountain of cash will make it easier.Nov 11 19:06
DaemonFC[m]The party will still be too afraid to defy him, goes the thinking, so he'll continue to have significant sway over most of them in Congress and maybe even some state governors too.Nov 11 19:07
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vZS1http://savannah.gnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=9856Nov 11 20:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-savannah.gnu.org | GNU Education - News: Teachers: Help Your Students Resist Zoom [Savannah]Nov 11 20:53
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #HowTo Install Trisquel 9.0 Etiona • 𝕋𝕦𝕩 𝕄𝕒𝕔𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕖𝕤 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144267 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f290d59f-9c5b-4335-bb64-5cdab86ebd69]Nov 11 21:49
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vZS1Freenode migration happeningNov 11 21:56
vZS1Wonder where they're going for new serversNov 11 21:56
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smnthermesWho is trn?Nov 11 22:00
smnthermesOr trnv2Nov 11 22:00
vZS1Haven't got a clueNov 11 22:02
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schestowitztrn is freenode staff, iircNov 11 22:05
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Newly-Published Richard Stallman Video From 2001, Where He is Explaining “Open Source” 3 Years After OSI Was Established • 🆃🅴🅲🅷🆁🅸🅶🅷🆃🆂 ☞ http://techrights.org/2020/11/11/rms-on-open-source/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/40cdc7a6-7d1c-4127-8259-9f66f83ac6c9]Nov 11 22:33
schestowitzvZS1: be sure to carefully check midnight's bulletin for any errorsNov 11 22:38
schestowitzas we made changesNov 11 22:38
schestowitzand I might have borked something without realising itNov 11 22:39
schestowitzthe rest of the workflow is the same as last nightNov 11 22:39
schestowitzit'll 'stabilise' and get faster over time, like chaining scripts together to do them all in fewer steps with fewer manual sanity checked in betweenNov 11 22:39
schestowitzeventually we might cron the whole thingNov 11 22:39
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schestowitzEuropean Commission Launches Antitrust Action Against AmazonNov 11 23:11
schestowitzthey should also take on Microsoft againNov 11 23:11
schestowitzthey allow the hijacking of githubNov 11 23:11
schestowitzpretty toothless 'regulator'Nov 11 23:11
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux graphics, why sharing code with Windows isn’t always a win. • 𝕋𝕦𝕩 𝕄𝕒𝕔𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕖𝕤 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144271 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f4c5c586-922e-46cd-b8ef-ed6c18a38c76]Nov 11 23:29
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕋𝕦𝕩 𝕄𝕒𝕔𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕖𝕤 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144272 [https://pleroma.site/objects/692182ab-b3a8-4b16-8aa8-4f265f0e9ac7]Nov 11 23:35
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Audiocasts/Shows: Distros, Destination Linux and FLOSS Weekly • 𝕋𝕦𝕩 𝕄𝕒𝕔𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕖𝕤 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144273 [https://pleroma.site/objects/b0105818-a9e7-4b52-a5ac-24e5a3aca531]Nov 11 23:38
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: “I hope this video piece inspires others to demand freedom,” Marcia K. Wilbur said about this video she made two decades ago and has just belatedly published http://techrights.org/2020/11/11/rms-on-open-source/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/3e597249-739f-4c85-a5f3-cc4b6e2b0dba]Nov 11 23:40

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