●● IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Saturday, June 12, 2021 ●● ● Jun 12 [00:00] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] I bet it must be very hard to port [00:00] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] from Android to a rebranded Android [00:00] MinceR lol [00:01] MinceR google's been trying to make it harder [00:01] MinceR with google play services [00:01] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] Ariadne: Do ye know if anyone else experiences more GTK 3 slowness in pmOS over the other distros? [00:01] MinceR nowadays they're making google play even worse [00:01] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:01] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] Volla Phone comes with Aurora Store [00:01] tr-bridge [Ariadne/tr] XRevan86: some distros use proprietary blobs to accelerate drawing [00:01] tr-bridge [Ariadne/tr] pmOS does not [00:02] BaronVladimirHar I just got some more old medical bills, but the good news is that while my insurance denied them, they predate the bankruptcy. [00:02] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] Ariadne: What proprietary blobs does PinePhone need though? [00:02] tr-bridge [Ariadne/tr] GTK3 will use the GPU to draw whenever possible ala Cairo [00:02] tr-bridge [Ariadne/tr] XRevan86: GPU [00:02] tr-bridge [Ariadne/tr] i believe [00:02] BaronVladimirHar So I sent them a letter explaining that my bankruptcy cleared all the debt from before May 26th, 2020 and their bill is from April 2020, and here's the discharge order from the court. [00:02] tr-bridge [Ariadne/tr] i need to check [00:02] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] Cairo is not GPU-accelerated [00:02] tr-bridge [Ariadne/tr] Cairo *is* GPU-accelerated, if you use Glitz [00:02] tr-bridge [Ariadne/tr] which is the default [00:03] tr-bridge [Ariadne/tr] citation: audacious used to do weird things with cairo, so i am quite familiar with how it works :) [00:03] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] O_O [00:04] MinceR :) [00:04] BaronVladimirHar Mozilla switched from Cairo to "Azure" a while back. At least on Windows. [00:04] BaronVladimirHar It hooks into Direct2D. [00:04] MinceR what, they render your UI in the cloud? :> [00:04] BaronVladimirHar Which was added in Windows 7. [00:04] tr-bridge [Ariadne/tr] yes, surprisingly, Cairo does not use Direct2D [00:04] tr-bridge [Ariadne/tr] :p [00:04] BaronVladimirHar I believe it also got backported to Windows Vista Service Pack 2. [00:07] CrystalMath that's why my latest program will be using pure libX11 and copying a pre-rendered pixmap, to ensure software rendering and easier portability to DOS [00:09] MinceR lol [00:09] MinceR why not just write it for dos and ship it with dosbox and a starter script [00:10] BaronVladimirHar No, you had to install Vista SP2 and the Platform Update to get Direct2D. [00:10] BaronVladimirHar It brings in all of DX 11 for that matter. [00:12] schestowitz wow [00:12] BaronVladimirHar I recall reading that Vista was *almost* Windows 7 at that point. [00:12] BaronVladimirHar They left out a few things and it did go out of support sooner. [00:13] BaronVladimirHar The new service management framework in Vista in particular was a complete mess. [00:14] BaronVladimirHar HP gave me a Vista Home Basic update disc for the laptop but it was so slow that I gave up on it quickly. [00:16] BaronVladimirHar schestowitz Now's a really bad time to buy a car due to that chip shortage. [00:16] BaronVladimirHar Parts for my old car are still about the same as they were. [00:16] schestowitz wow, so many nitter instances are rate limited now [00:16] schestowitz like, def. most of them [00:16] BaronVladimirHar I laid out some money today for some structural repairs that would have been crazy before, comparing opportunity cost. [00:17] BaronVladimirHar But between Illinois and their new used car surtax and the price inflation, repair is now the better option again. [00:19] techrights-bot This freeform sculpture doubles as a drink temperature monitor | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/06/11/this-freeform-sculpture-doubles-as-a-drink-temperature-monitor/ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/12/#latest [00:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | This freeform sculpture doubles as a drink temperature monitor | Arduino Blog [00:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [00:20] techrights-bot #NVIDIA Confirms Plans To Drop "Kepler" GPU Driver Support - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-Confirms-Kepler-Ending #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux [00:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NVIDIA Confirms Plans To Drop "Kepler" GPU Driver Support - Phoronix [00:22] techrights-bot A Passion for Operating Systems: An #Illinois Undergraduate's Contributions to #Linux #kernel https://cs.illinois.edu/news/passion-operating-systems-illinois-undergraduate-contributions-linux [00:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cs.illinois.edu | A Passion for Operating Systems: An Illinois Undergraduate's Contributions to Linux | Computer Science | UIUC [00:23] schestowitz one of my laptops keeps dropping a connection at random times, for about a week now... [00:24] schestowitz not sure where to check, I doubt a reboot of the hub/router would 'fix' this [00:24] schestowitz could this be a hardware issue? [00:25] techrights-bot #Ohio Attorney General asks courts to declare #Google a public utility https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/09/ohio_google_utility/ [00:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Ohio Attorney General asks courts to declare Google a public utility The Register [00:27] techrights-bot #HowTo download and install Unix #Solaris OS on #VirtualBox - H2S Media https://www.how2shout.com/how-to/oracle-solaris-unix-os-for-virtualbox-download-and-install.html #how2shout [00:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.how2shout.com | How to download and install Unix Solaris OS on VirtualBox - H2S Media [00:28] BaronVladimirHar A wifi chip getting flaky? Sure. [00:29] BaronVladimirHar https://news.softpedia.com/news/Firefox-Now-Uses-the-Azure-Graphics-API-for-Canvas-on-All-Platforms-290671.shtml [00:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Firefox Now Uses the Azure Graphics API for Canvas on All Platforms [00:29] techrights-bot "Back to office from sept 7th" at #ibm (ongoing discussion). Same at #microsoft ... employees' health doesn't matter to them. Both mental and physical health. https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bg8Y2do#replies [00:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Back to office from sept 7th - post regarding IBM layoffs [00:30] BaronVladimirHar Mozilla naming their products after Microsoft ones and then moving development to GitHub. [00:30] techrights-bot "Done like Lou Gerstner... Harvard MBA, 20 years at McKinsey... Then become a CEO... never be a rank-and-file worker." #ibm https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bcHegfR#replies [00:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | If you can go back in time - post regarding IBM layoffs [00:31] techrights-bot "Its ironic that you baggers talk about how cr---y #ibm is and doesnt innovate nor make good products, and then gloat how you sit at work and do nothing and dont care about the company." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bfkVTnV#replies [00:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | looks like some in IBM are doing very well - post regarding IBM layoffs [00:32] techrights-bot 1 hour ago: "The good reorgs are where the old timers with no skills that complain on here get let go and make room for us blue collars who actually want to learn and innovate. But mostly its just moving the excel and PowerPoint masters to a new resting home to collect a measly paycheck until they retire." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bfkVoGC#replies [00:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Experience with Reorg - post regarding IBM layoffs [00:33] techrights-bot #ibm #layoffs 1 hour ago: "This is a total pump and dump scheme. Guaranteed. The smart person would buy now and short after Q2 earnings." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bgNFGOs#replies [00:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | IBM Stock Goes from Worst to BEST! Tech Performer in 7 Months!!! - post regarding IBM layoffs [00:34] schestowitz BaronVladimirHar: that's 2012 [00:34] schestowitz there was no Microsoft clown yet [00:34] schestowitz you might say Microsoft copied Mozilla [00:34] MinceR maybe they just use the same suits to find names for products :> [00:37] schestowitz when Microsoft names new things it never skips on or misses the opportunity to steal someone else's e [00:37] schestowitz e.g. Maui [00:37] schestowitz you get a name for yourself and attack some competitor at the same time [00:37] schestowitz typical Microsoft, for decades doing this.. [00:39] techrights-bot "Probably one of the most common Vim/Emacs questions that I get is "Why would I choose Emacs over Vim?" Or "what does Emacs have to offer that Vim doesn't?" You see this question all the time from Vim users on message boards and support forums." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRkp-uJTK7s [00:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What Are The Benefits Of Emacs Over Vim? - YouTube [00:40] techrights-bot "Following an overnight session, the German parliament (Bundestag) adopted reforms to its patent law early this morning." https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/legal-commentary/patent-law-reform-bundestag-introduces-principle-of-proportionality/ see http://techrights.org/2021/04/16/bundestagate-part-20/ [00:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.juve-patent.com | Patent law reform: Bundestag introduces principle of proportionality - JUVE Patent [00:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPOLeaks on Misleading the Bundestag Part 20: Taking Stock | Techrights [00:43] techrights-bot Even #TeamUPC or UPC boosters have mostly given up #UPC hopes: "whilst there have been discussions regarding a Unitary European Patent for a number of years it is unlikely that this will be available anytime soon." https://www.frkelly.com/library/ten-frequently-asked-patent-questions [00:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ten Frequently Asked Patent Questions | FRKelly [00:43] BaronVladimirHar https://abc7chicago.com/10776226/ [00:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-abc7chicago.com | Biden White House shuts down office for victims of immigrant crime opened under former Pres. Trump - ABC7 Chicago [00:43] BaronVladimirHar No more "immigrant crime" agency. [00:46] *bagira is now known as phanes [00:46] BaronVladimirHar It's hard to quit the credit cards, even though RMS says to stop. [00:47] MinceR same with debit cards [00:47] BaronVladimirHar At the end of the year, I have over $1,000 in cashback points and almost all of it was stuff I had no choice but to buy anyway. [00:47] MinceR especially during the plague [00:47] BaronVladimirHar Groceries, car repairs, gasoline, clothes.... [00:47] MinceR when companies doing shipping to the home often don't want you to exchange cash with the courier [00:48] BaronVladimirHar The Federal Reserve studied it and came to the conclusion that the banks basically rip off people who pay cash in the form of higher prices at the store. [00:48] BaronVladimirHar Then give the money to people who use the cards. [00:48] MinceR and of course if you have something shipped to a delivery box, the only way to pay there tends to be via card [00:48] BaronVladimirHar Even the gas stations that offer a 5 cent per gallon discount to use cash aren't worth it. [00:48] MinceR (which, judging by cash-based vending machines, is totally understandable) [00:48] BaronVladimirHar With what gas costs now, I can usually get 13-15 cents per gallon in points. [00:49] MinceR and of course online payment doesn't work with cash :> [00:49] BaronVladimirHar schestowitzmight have noticed my plan to do occasional trips to Wisconsin for gas now. [00:49] BaronVladimirHar The Democrats figure that people burning more gas to get to Wisconsin because it's worth the financial loss in gas burned to avoid their gas tax will reduce carbon emissions. [00:50] MinceR :> [00:50] BaronVladimirHar Just like you can't buy a gun without a FOID card. [00:50] BaronVladimirHar I figured out the spread will be about 45 cents per gallon after the first of next month. [00:51] BaronVladimirHar If I go up there and lose a gallon ($3) round trip and save $9, I net $6. If I have to get a tank of gas every 10 days or so, then that's $18 a month, or $216 a year, actually. [00:51] BaronVladimirHar Even after the wasted gas. [00:52] BaronVladimirHar So it's basically, I don't really have to do anything to pocket $216 except drive 8 miles out of my way into Wisconsin a few times per month. [00:55] techrights-bot Conversation With #RichardStallman in Brazil, May 31st 2021 http://techrights.org/2021/06/11/rms-brazil-chat/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/11/rms-brazil-chat/ [00:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Conversation With Richard Stallman in Brazil, May 31st 2021 | Techrights [00:55] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: Still don't wanna register your nick? [00:56] techrights-bot A Passion for Operating Systems: An Illinois Undergraduates Contributions to Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152207 #Kernel #Linux #TuxMachines [00:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A Passion for Operating Systems: An Illinois Undergraduate's Contributions to Linux | Tux Machines [00:56] techrights-bot The $149 Smartphone That Could Bring The Linux Mobile Ecosystem to Life http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152206 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The $149 Smartphone That Could Bring The Linux Mobile Ecosystem to Life | Tux Machines [00:56] BaronVladimirHar MinceR: When you consider the time wasted for the $216 in net tax avoidance income, then it's still more per hour than some Uber drivers make. [00:56] BaronVladimirHar And no risk of getting shot by a fare. [00:59] BaronVladimirHar It takes about an hour each month if Google's travel time is accurate, I suppose less the time you would spend pumping gas either way. $216 /12 hours per year works out to $18 an hour. Easily better than Uber drivers make. ● Jun 12 [01:00] BaronVladimirHar If Illinois had been happy enough to remain tax-competitive with surrounding states, it wouldn't have lost the taxes and jobs to other states. What else is new? 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[02:49] MinceR :> [02:51] *mmu_man has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [02:51] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] I wondered if June or July. June. [02:52] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] should take at least 2 weeks though [02:54] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] The world can still surprse me. Who knows, maybe less than 2 weeks? [02:55] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] * surprise ● Jun 12 [03:00] *kupi (uid212005@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fdawuxuzhxixlwpv) has joined #techrights [03:04] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [03:04] techrights-ipfs Gemini requests since start of month: 78936 total Total pages: 35836 Active: active (running) since Tue 2021-06-08 16:18:39 BST; 3 days ago [03:05] techrights-ipfs IPFS local node stats (past 23 hours) calculated. TotalIn: 2.0 GB TotalOut: 547 MB [03:05] techrights-ipfs New daily bulletin just generated. It is about to be added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with CID [03:05] *asusbox has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [03:07] techrights-ipfs QmXeVCbTbi5P1GkGm1gYJnWmeN4nbuehzDpz7Egwwm6Zy1 [03:16] *pogosad has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [03:18] cubexyz this laptop I'm looking at isn't bad [03:18] cubexyz write-protected BIOS and EC chips [03:18] cubexyz disabled Intel ME [03:18] cubexyz librem-14 [03:19] cubexyz a bit expensive though [03:19] *phebus (~phebus@fsf/member/phebus) has joined #techrights [03:19] MinceR :) [03:20] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] It's nichy so it compensates with price. [03:20] MinceR and a bit heavy [03:20] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] Just like the phone? [03:20] MinceR dunno, iirc the phone can't boot from removable devices [03:20] MinceR currently i'm trying to figure out what the actual security advantage of picking AMD (PSP) over intel (ME) [03:21] MinceR like, is the AMT code actually missing from devices they claim are "not eligible" for "vPro" [03:21] MinceR +grammar [03:23] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: From what I've heard PSP is nowhere near as ambitious as ME, but that sentence is all I know. [03:23] MinceR yeah [03:24] MinceR still, it too has access to a lot of hardware built into the system, so the main difference i can find is what code is actually there and exploitable more easily by attackers [03:24] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.60 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 6.00 swarm size (avg): 243.51 [03:24] MinceR oh, also, it seems that most accounts of the PSP gloss over the "secure OS" that is loaded into the SRAM of the PSP at the end of the boot process or so [03:24] MinceR i don't have much info about that [03:25] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: Regarding the Librem phone, I don't know if it is brickable or not, but it has problems with appeal in general, it's a strange device. [03:27] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] Maybe later when the software is more ready a more expensive phone than the PinePhone would have a bigger audience, but right now don't know about that. Also it's bulky. [03:27] *pogosad (~poggo@gateway/tor-sasl/pogosad) has joined #techrights [03:28] MinceR also, i don't care for "PureOS" [03:28] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] What's the difference with Mobian anyway? [03:29] MinceR dunno [03:29] MinceR they probably both run systemd, so i'm not interested in running either [03:29] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: I knew ye'd say that of course. [03:30] MinceR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-54OpEwE0w [03:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I knew you'd say that. - YouTube [03:32] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: pmOS supports Librem 5 [03:32] MinceR that's better [03:33] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: Also software-wise phosh and the related software like the phone book, the SMS messenger and such are a Librem project. [03:33] MinceR i know [03:33] MinceR and it wasn't my first choice [03:33] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] In that respect, ye probably do care about PureOS :) [03:33] MinceR it's just that sxmo and hildon (maemo) don't seem to be ready for use yet [03:34] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] I on the contrary don't, phosh annoys me greatly. [03:34] MinceR (and i'm not really sure what hildon is capable of anyway) [03:39] MinceR also, if i were to use sxmo, i'd probably want gtk to be built to use x, not wayland [03:39] MinceR which pmOS doesn't seem to do [03:40] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: It's a touchscreen phone anyway. I never believed in that ye'd be able to use sxmo productively :) [03:40] MinceR it can use the touchscreen actually [03:40] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] It's all in the logs, heh. [03:40] MinceR it has touchscreen gestures and a pretty usable virtual keyboard [03:40] MinceR afaict you don't even need to use the hardware buttons for most of the menu functionality [03:41] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: It's just not a good design for the touchscreen. [03:41] MinceR just for lock/suspend stuff (which doesn't work for me currently, and is the main thing keeping me from using sxmo) [03:41] MinceR what's not good for touchscreen about it? [03:43] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: The amount of work to navigate menus for everything. [03:43] MinceR it isn't that much work if you just tap on the menu [03:45] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: Compare it to Sailfish which has gestures for everything. This is the opposite of that. [03:45] MinceR sxmo has tons of gestures [03:46] MinceR https://git.sr.ht/~mil/sxmo-docs/tree/master/USERGUIDE.md#strongglobal-ui-controlsstrong [03:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.sr.ht | ~mil/sxmo-docs: USERGUIDE.md - sourcehut git [03:46] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: Hm, okay [03:47] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] Now I know for sure that rasengan really did call up the lawyers over the requirement to set up TOTP to access the organisation in Gandi. [03:48] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] It's nice when one's deductions align with reality perfectly. [03:48] MinceR how do you know for sure? [03:49] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: Clearly not from rasengan, heck if I can get a straight answer from him. [03:50] MinceR apparently the "Secure OS" is called "Kinibi TEE" [03:51] MinceR (mentioned at https://youtu.be/KR8bPLj4nKE?t=336 ) [03:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-All You Ever Wanted to Know about the AMD Platform Security Processor and were Afraid to Emulate... - YouTube [03:52] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [03:52] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [03:52] *IroncladCorona has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [03:55] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] So yea, the reasons behind the downfall of freenode are quite something. [03:58] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz speaks about the importance of freenode, the nicks, the channels, and that's not hard to understand, but that's supporting the man who destroyed the whole freenode organisation and took over, over not wanting TOTP. [03:59] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [03:59] MinceR the freenode organization was not destroyed and what happened to it was not done by one man [03:59] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] He's the reason why freenode is dying, and so all the love and support he should get? ● Jun 12 [04:00] MinceR freenode has been dying ever since lilo died [04:00] MinceR if not earlier [04:00] MinceR they've set it up so that it was always heavily dependent on money [04:00] MinceR and then they set up a company to own it [04:00] MinceR and then they sold that company [04:00] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [04:01] MinceR and then two large egos got into a fight over who gets to control the domain name [04:01] MinceR and then i didn't mention how they put people in charge (long ago) who shouldn't have been trusted near free software ever, and now they even have their signatures on a letter to prove that [04:01] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: And then no one actually took control over the domain name. [04:02] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] The claims that tomaw took away access are bogus. [04:03] MinceR meanwhile we have hundreds of IRC networks running on infrastructure controlled and provided by the people who run them, without any corporation or foundation necessary [04:03] CrystalMath TOTP? [04:03] CrystalMath i don't want that crap either [04:04] rbraun they dissolved the company that owned it [04:04] CrystalMath rbraun: hmm? [04:04] rbraun so no company owned it [04:04] rbraun CrystalMath: PDPC [04:04] CrystalMath that was a long time ago [04:04] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] CrystalMath: If the staff didn't feel like a password is sufficient for protecting their everything, I can understand that. [04:04] rbraun freenode ltd wasn't supposed to own it and it's unclear how the sale was ever valid [04:04] MinceR after PDPC was dissolved, freenode ltd. was incorporated at some point [04:04] CrystalMath also Christel owned freenode ever since the Texas PDPC dissolved [04:04] MinceR so it seems people made the same mistake at least 2 times [04:05] CrystalMath that was 2008 [04:05] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: freenode also ran a convention. [04:05] MinceR i know [04:05] rbraun CrystalMath: that's not at all clear [04:05] CrystalMath rbraun: all the servers were leased to her [04:05] CrystalMath what else is there? [04:05] rbraun CrystalMath: most of the servers were provided as barter, there was no "lease" [04:05] rbraun later on she may have leased some servers, but then she takes on the role of a sponsor [04:06] CrystalMath there was, i asked about donating a server to freenode [04:06] rbraun MinceR: definitely was two large egoes tho [04:06] CrystalMath i was told that there are contracts [04:06] rbraun that's for sure [04:06] rbraun CrystalMath: when? [04:06] CrystalMath between 2013 and 2017 [04:06] CrystalMath i think 2014 [04:07] CrystalMath you basically have to sign a contract with Christel, and then you can't touch your server [04:07] CrystalMath only freenode administrates it remotely [04:07] CrystalMath this is to prevent server owners from spying on PMs [04:07] MinceR allegedly [04:07] MinceR it seems like it's a recipe for disaster [04:08] CrystalMath rbraun: everything seemed to be in her name, and she owned the network [04:08] MinceR and if you don't want your PMs to be spied upon, use Tox over Tor [04:08] MinceR or RetroShare over Tor [04:08] CrystalMath i think that was even before 2013 [04:09] rbraun well PDPC was a legal entity before then [04:09] rbraun so it would have been with them [04:09] MinceR or fork Ricochet and update it to the new Tor code and key size :> [04:09] CrystalMath i don't think so, tbh, i think that as soon as the texas on dissolved, it was all Christel from that point on [04:09] rbraun wrong [04:09] CrystalMath *texas one [04:09] rbraun PDPC was legally incorporated later on in the UK [04:09] CrystalMath Christel founded PDPC Ltd [04:09] CrystalMath yeah [04:09] rbraun bad move, considering both UK libel law and UK charity law [04:10] MinceR + [04:10] CrystalMath yeah it didn't work [04:10] CrystalMath but i doubt that that PDPC owned freenode [04:10] rbraun and was forced to dissolve due to lack of required funds in 2013 [04:10] rbraun right, so [04:10] rbraun if PDPC didn't own freenode, then christel didn't [04:10] MinceR well, people doubt that freenode ltd. owns freenode today, so that's not surprising :> [04:10] rbraun and if she didn't own it then she couldn't sell it to rasengan [04:10] CrystalMath rbraun: the contracts were with Christel i think [04:11] CrystalMath the entire time [04:11] rbraun doesn't mean she owned the network or its services [04:11] CrystalMath until 2017 [04:11] CrystalMath rbraun: what else is there? [04:11] rbraun it means you would have had a legal obligation to her to keep freenode safe [04:11] CrystalMath yeah but freenode *is* just these servers :P [04:11] rbraun not that she owned it [04:12] rbraun no, it's the services db and the actual operations of the network [04:12] CrystalMath well later on it was Freenode Ltd [04:12] CrystalMath and Freenode Ltd owned the database and had all the servers leased to them [04:13] CrystalMath so it became perfectly clear then [04:13] rbraun you don't know that they owned that [04:14] CrystalMath who else? [04:14] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] To me the ownership aspect is a very big whatever as it has no involvement in justification of Libera's existence. [04:14] rbraun the unincorporated consortium of staff [04:14] CrystalMath rbraun: i disagree with that [04:14] rbraun who had no employment contracts whatsoever to the network they ran [04:14] MinceR seems to have a pretty big involvement in that to me [04:14] rbraun or to freenode ltd [04:14] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] To me it doesn't matter if rasengan had the legal right to topple freenode. No one's trying to sue him over this. [04:15] rbraun no, contrariwise, *he* threatened to sue to establish his right to do so [04:15] rbraun and the exorbitant cost of litigating it in the UK convinced staff to fork it instead [04:15] MinceR it hasn't been toppled, at least not yet [04:15] rbraun true [04:15] CrystalMath i should start an IRC network called cheburnet [04:15] MinceR lol [04:15] MinceR sounds like a network i wouldn't want to use [04:15] rbraun and two decent networks surviving is better than one, but the administration of this one so far has left a lot to be desired [04:16] CrystalMath rbraun: i really love what they're doing, there's now even a free BNC! [04:16] MinceR so has the administration of the other 2 networks advertising themselves as being about free software [04:16] rbraun there's now even (checks notes) another round of random vengeful k-lines this morning [04:16] MinceR do your notes say "another"? [04:17] rbraun well there are the k-lines of ex-staff rasengan sent out right when he took over [04:17] CrystalMath Fuchs deserved it [04:17] MinceR if jose and amdj got k-lines, they deserve them [04:18] rbraun i don't think they did! :P [04:18] rbraun it was others [04:18] MinceR also nhandler [04:18] rbraun sorry to burst that bubble for ya [04:18] CrystalMath rbraun: Fuchs did get one [04:18] CrystalMath but it was temporary [04:19] rbraun re over TOTP, idk if that was any more than the trigger, but i think tomaw was about as arrogant in that and at fault in causing the split https://gist.github.com/prawnsalad/4ca20da6c2295ddb06c1646791c61953 [04:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gist.github.com | freenode-irc-drama-and-goodbye.md GitHub [04:19] rbraun i just don't at all approve of what rasengan did after that [04:20] rbraun CrystalMath: how do you know it was temporary? his services account is still frozen [04:20] CrystalMath hmm [04:20] CrystalMath i thought i saw him on later [04:20] CrystalMath but maybe not [04:20] rbraun i've seen the others on, but on alternate nicks [04:20] CrystalMath i talked to jess today :P [04:20] rbraun except KindOne, that k-line and freeze was reverted, but he wasn't staff [04:20] MinceR a frozen nickserv account and a k-line are two very different things [04:21] rbraun MinceR: they were applied at the same time [04:21] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 23.78 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 6.00 swarm size (avg): 243.58 [04:21] rbraun and two of the frozen nicks also have protection turned on so you can't use those nicks at all [04:25] CrystalMath rbraun: libera K-lined SwitchToFreenode (kreyren) [04:25] CrystalMath because of the nick [04:28] rbraun they k-lined him as buzz_to_freenode because he was impersonating buzz (who uses buzz_to_libera here) [04:28] CrystalMath well that was before :P [04:28] rbraun they didn't k-line SwitchToFreenode [04:28] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: What is the word ye would accept? A coup? [04:28] CrystalMath yes they did i saw it in the log [04:28] CrystalMath i mean i saw: SwitchToFreenode has quit (K-Lined) [04:28] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] XRevan86: i don't think there's a single word, but "pointless drama" would be close, i guess [04:28] CrystalMath on a channel where they were talking about me on libera [04:29] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] or perhaps "collective hissy fit" [04:29] rbraun CrystalMath: not in my logs [04:29] rbraun and i would have been in at least a couple channels he was in [04:29] rbraun i have plenty of that nick in my logs [04:29] rbraun but no k-lines [04:30] MinceR https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/buzz#Verb [04:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | buzz - Wiktionary [04:30] CrystalMath rbraun: well i know what i saw [04:30] CrystalMath i got a log of people talking about me on libera [04:31] CrystalMath i love being popular :P [04:31] MinceR lol [04:31] MinceR having many people addicted to you? [04:31] rbraun CrystalMath: which channel [04:31] CrystalMath #osdev [04:32] CrystalMath i'm a regular on freenode/#osdev which most of the regulars abandoned [04:32] MinceR also, do illibera staff really set k-lines on nicks? [04:32] CrystalMath idk if it was a k-line on a nick [04:33] rbraun i have several k-lines in my logs for BUZZ_ON_FREENODE and similar, none for SwitchToFreenode [04:34] schestowitz [04:29] [MinceR/tr] or perhaps "collective hissy fit" [04:34] schestowitz yes, that. [at MinceR] [04:35] MinceR :> [04:35] schestowitz I want to write about things that matter [04:35] schestowitz not spend over a month reading tweet "wars" [04:36] schestowitz it's a prick waving fight over who is more "ethical" and "trustworthy" [04:36] MinceR + [04:36] schestowitz the real goal is power [04:36] schestowitz powe [04:36] schestowitz and ego [04:36] schestowitz control over speech [04:36] schestowitz that begets setting an agenda [04:37] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/05/08/communication-channels-cancel-mobbed/ [04:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Pro-Software Freedom Advocates and Free/Libre Software Supporters Face Barriers Due to Domination of Communication Channels (Beyond the Media) | Techrights [04:37] MinceR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Pt4_gwFn0g [04:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Predator 2 - There's A New King In The Streets [HD] - YouTube [04:43] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] XRevan86: thanks for the bridge [04:43] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] the way it is set up, all the IRC stuff goes through a server we control, except some of the messages get relayed in (and back to) a third party network [04:46] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] MinceR: coming up next, "Mihly, the EPO's Hungarian "Fixer" " [04:51] MinceR :> [04:51] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] there is a nazi connection [04:52] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/4-Bogsch-Internationale-Rechtskammer-1942.pdf ● Jun 12 [05:20] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.46 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 37.86 swarm size (avg): 243.60 [05:21] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] draft ready [05:21] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] Hungarian: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/4-HIPO-2011.pdf_extract.pdf [05:25] schestowitz much more important than those petty "IRC wars" [05:25] *kupi has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) [05:28] schestowitz Very much overhyped by Microsoft and, in this case, Microsoft-connected media] [05:28] schestowitz https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/linux-system-service-bug-lets-you-get-root-on-most-modern-distros/ [05:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Linux system service bug lets you get root on most modern distros [05:29] schestowitz Another useless gimmick: https://www.maketecheasier.com/best-rgb-keyboards/ [05:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | Your Guide to The Best RGB Keyboards In 2021 - Make Tech Easier ● Jun 12 [06:00] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Always read both sides of the story - http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/lee-side.pdf) [06:20] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.46 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 42.51 swarm size (avg): 243.64 ● Jun 12 [07:19] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 27.48 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 19.75 swarm size (avg): 243.67 ● Jun 12 [08:20] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 21.66 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 48.36 swarm size (avg): 243.69 [08:53] techrights-bot #IRC Proceedings: Friday, June 11, 2021 http://techrights.org/2021/06/12/irc-log-110621/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/12/irc-log-110621/ [08:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Friday, June 11, 2021 | Techrights [08:54] techrights-bot #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [08:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index [08:54] techrights-bot Virtual Injustice Part 4: Mihly Ficsor, the EPOs Hungarian Fixer http://techrights.org/2021/06/12/mihaly-ficsor-past/ #hungary #epo #history #patents #europe [08:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Virtual Injustice Part 4: Mihly Ficsor, the EPOs Hungarian Fixer | Techrights [08:55] techrights-bot #Techrights Bulletin for Friday, June 11, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [08:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives [08:55] techrights-bot [Meme] Virtual Code of Conduct (ViCoC) http://techrights.org/2021/06/12/vicoc/ #injustice #twitter #socialcontrolmedia #lynchMob #FakeInnovation [08:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Virtual Code of Conduct (ViCoC) | Techrights ● Jun 12 [09:00] techrights-bot #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152208 #Linux #TuxMachines [09:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [09:00] techrights-bot #kde Plasma 5.22 available for Hirsute Hippo 21.04 in backports PPA http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152061#comment-29938 [09:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Plasma 5.22 Released. This is What's New | Tux Machines [09:01] techrights-bot Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152210 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [09:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [09:02] techrights-bot You Can Now Install KDE Plasma 5.22 on Kubuntu 21.04, Heres How http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152209 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [09:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | You Can Now Install KDE Plasma 5.22 on Kubuntu 21.04, Here's How | Tux Machines [09:02] techrights-bot #KDE Plasma 5.23 Promises Beautiful New Breeze Theme Style http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152211 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [09:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Plasma 5.23 Promises Beautiful New Breeze Theme Style | Tux Machines [09:07] techrights-bot #EU Already Captured by and Lying for Corrupt #EPO Officials, #TeamUPC , and Lobbyists of Multinational Corporations http://techrights.org/2021/06/12/12-pages-of-lies/ #patents #upc [09:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EU Already Captured by and Lying for Corrupt EPO Officials, Team UPC, and Lobbyists of Multinational Corporations | Techrights [09:07] techrights-bot At the end of last month #RichardStallman had a 2-hour (and beyond, considering some of the afterthoughts) conversation, which is now available online http://techrights.org/2021/06/11/rms-brazil-chat/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/11/rms-brazil-chat/ [09:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Conversation With Richard Stallman in Brazil, May 31st 2021 | Techrights [09:08] techrights-bot One key operative of Antnio Campinos, who is fiercely in favour of software patents, has quite a colourful past and background http://techrights.org/2021/06/12/mihaly-ficsor-past/ #Techrights #Europe #Patents Hungary | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/12/mihaly-ficsor-past/ [09:17] techrights-bot NEWS #BertHubert Practical Reed-Solomon for Programmers https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/reed-solomon-for-programmers/ [09:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-berthub.eu | Practical Reed-Solomon for Programmers - 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Cambus.net [10:37] techrights-bot NEWS #BrianCallahan #Programming Introducing 8088ify: The CP/M to MS-DOS assembly translator https://briancallahan.net/blog/20210606.html [10:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-briancallahan.net | Brian Robert Callahan [10:38] techrights-bot NEWS #BrucePerens What You Get From Paid Job Search Companies https://perens.com/2021/06/08/what-you-get-from-paid-job-search-companies/ [10:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What You Get From Paid Job Search Companies Bruce Perens [10:59] *mmu_man (~revol@82-65-227-82.subs.proxad.net) has joined #techrights [10:59] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] Ariadne: heads up ● Jun 12 [11:00] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] I am writing a post asking the FSF to consider self-hosting IRC [11:00] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] I also wrote to RMS about it [11:20] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 30.90 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 53.95 swarm size (avg): 243.70 [11:29] techrights-bot Open Letter to the #FSF About Taking Control of the FSF's (and GNU's) #IRC Channels http://techrights.org/2021/06/12/fsf-irc-channels/ #gnu #freesw #internet [11:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Open Letter to the FSF About Taking Control of the FSFs (and GNUs) IRC Channels | Techrights [11:33] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [11:34] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [11:41] *xvx (~xvx@185.48.63.107) has joined #techrights [11:42] *KindOne has quit (Excess Flood) [11:42] *KindOne (kindone@unaffiliated/kindone) has joined #techrights [11:46] *immibis has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [11:46] *immibis (~immibis@62.156.144.218) has joined #techrights [11:55] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [11:56] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) ● Jun 12 [12:02] *pogosad has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [12:02] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [12:02] *pogosad (~poggo@gateway/tor-sasl/pogosad) has joined #techrights [12:02] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [12:09] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [12:09] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [12:10] techrights-bot NEWS #JeffGeerling #Hardware The Wiretrustee SATA Pi Board is a true SATA NAS https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2021/wiretrustee-sata-pi-board-true-sata-nas [12:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jeffgeerling.com | The Wiretrustee SATA Pi Board is a true SATA NAS | Jeff Geerling [12:11] techrights-bot NEWS #PatrickBreyer #Health Pirates Hail ParliamentS Call To Waive #COVID19 #Vaccine #Patents https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/pirates-hail-parliaments-call-to-waive-covid-19-vaccine-patents/ [12:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patrick-breyer.de | Pirates hail Parliaments call to waive COVID-19 vaccine patents Patrick Breyer [12:12] techrights-bot NEWS #VOANews #ProprietarySoftware #Trump Officials Seized Apple Data of 2 Democratic Lawmakers, NY Times Says https://www.voanews.com/usa/us-politics/trump-officials-seized-apple-data-2-democratic-lawmakers-ny-times-says [12:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.voanews.com | Trump Officials Seized Apple Data of 2 Democratic Lawmakers, NY Times Says | Voice of America - English [12:12] techrights-bot NEWS #CNN #ProprietarySoftware Serious cyberattacks in Europe doubled in the past year, new figures reveal, as criminals exploited the pandemic https://edition.cnn.com/2021/06/10/tech/europe-cyberattacks-ransomware-cmd-intl/index.html [12:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edition.cnn.com | Serious cyberattacks in Europe have doubled in the past year - CNN [12:20] techrights-bot With #KDE Plasma 5.22 Having Just Been Released Its Time to Give KDE a Try (or Move to GNU/Linux, Leveraging the Best Features of Any Operating System Out There) http://techrights.org/2021/06/12/kde-lookaround/ #gnu #linux but #bsd also possible. #freebsd for instance. [12:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | With KDE Plasma 5.22 Having Just Been Released Its Time to Give KDE a Try (or Move to GNU/Linux, Leveraging the Best Features of Any Operating System Out There) | Techrights [12:27] techrights-bot The checksum cross-ref for videos are now done automatically in #techrights so when I upload videos it can verify no loss in transmission [12:33] techrights-bot #geminiProtocol mailing list slowing down a bit lately, but I think that's because there's not much less to actually discuss (same with WordPress lists circa 2007) as people further develop their software and capsules. In first 11 days of this month almost 750 unique visitors (unique!) to the #techrights capsule. https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/ [12:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | The Gemini 2021 Archive by thread [12:34] techrights-bot RMS receives flak for talking about #overpopulation -- apparently the sort of taboo topic one is now 'allowed' to bring up http://techrights.org/2021/06/11/rms-brazil-chat/ [12:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Conversation With Richard Stallman in Brazil, May 31st 2021 | Techrights [12:35] techrights-bot " #IBM needs Systems but prefers not to own it. They want to be out of the hardware business except for Z. They need those Z clients. I'm curious how this spinoff has affected sales other than established fortune 100 clients that are usually on z. I'm guessing p-series and i-series are outta luck." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1biByoMH#replies [12:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Is there any new information about IBM selling Watson Health? - post regarding IBM layoffs [12:37] techrights-bot Updates on the controversy stirred up by #ibm pressuring workers to go back to the shared office. Same in #microsoft I've heard... people angry! https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bh52BMX#replies https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bg8Y2do#replies [12:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | September 7th 2021 - IBM workers are returning to the office - post regarding IBM layoffs [12:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Back to office from sept 7th - post regarding IBM layoffs [12:38] techrights-bot "Am I doing a labor job? I don't care about #IBM or their growth unless I am also getting good raises. Currently, I am just working for very good work life balance (2 hrs a week have to work). Rest 38 hrs, I am taking care of my family. When we had to go to office, I was having two laptops and using my personal laptop for earning extra money from IBM offices." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bfkVTnV#replies [12:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | looks like some in IBM are doing very well - post regarding IBM layoffs [12:38] techrights-bot #ibm closing shop https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bjAyMqh#replies [12:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Pulling the Plug on Med City - post regarding IBM layoffs [12:39] techrights-bot NEWS #TheGrugq Not all exploits are grey in the dark https://gru.gq/2021/06/09/not-all-exploits-are-grey-in-the-dark/ [12:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gru.gq | Not all exploits are grey in the dark [12:40] techrights-bot NEWS #arXiv #Privacy #Surveillance Operating Tor Relays at Universities: Experiences and Considerations https://arxiv.org/abs/2106.04277 [12:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arxiv.org | [2106.04277] Operating Tor Relays at Universities: Experiences and Considerations [12:41] techrights-bot We always have tasks a projects that need doing at #techrights -- all we lack is time!! -- so if anyone has spare time we can reciprocate with some technical experience/training. Get in touch with us in IRC at #techrights in irc.techrights.org [12:46] techrights-bot The #FSF should have seized the opportunity, in light of self-harming IRC infighting (instability and unpredictability), to create its own IRC network and then help this new (or GNU) network flourish http://techrights.org/2021/06/12/fsf-irc-channels/ #Techrights #internet #irc | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/12/fsf-irc-channels/ [12:47] techrights-bot A quick recommendation of #KDE based on a reasonably recent (but not latest) build; theres this myth about KDE being difficult and flaky http://techrights.org/2021/06/12/kde-lookaround/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/12/kde-lookaround/ ● Jun 12 [13:02] *techrights-ipfs has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [13:11] techrights-bot With deadline just 20 days ahead, "stay-in-the-uk" application for #eu citizens is STILL just in "BETA" and on the face of it people without a mobile phone CANNOT APPLY, not even by post! This is a scandal, I think. Landline? Not accepted. They want us like cattle, with tracking devices attached to us. @glynmoody [13:18] *xvx has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [13:24] *mmu_man has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [13:40] techrights-bot #microsoft media spin, equating attacks with compromise. iophk: attack does not necessarily mean exploit, except on #Vista10 [13:47] techrights-bot Today in #Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152215 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [13:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [13:53] BaronVladimirHar https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/six-flags-great-america-settling-lawsuit-over-fingerprints-for-36m/2530935/ [13:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcchicago.com | Six Flags Great America Settling Lawsuit Over Fingerprints for $36M NBC Chicago [13:56] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [13:56] BaronVladimirHar Lots of companies violate the BIPA in Illinois and I've seen settlements well into the billions of dollars at this point. [13:56] BaronVladimirHar And it's just like....why? [13:58] BaronVladimirHar Usually nothing they're doing actually requires the information that breaks the law. Or they could cover themselves by just putting the agreement to collect it in the usage agreement that nobody ever reads because it's 110 out and they have kids that want to go to the water park. ● Jun 12 [14:03] *xvx (~xvx@185.48.63.107) has joined #techrights [14:14] *inky (~inky@5.77.130.9) has joined #techrights [14:17] BaronVladimirHar schestowitz Bill Gates apparently owns 250,000 acres of farmland in the US and that includes the potato fields that McDonald's sources their fries from. [14:18] BaronVladimirHar He really is in everything. [14:22] BaronVladimirHar https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/mcdonald-s-french-fries-carrots-onions-all-foods-come-bill-n1270033 [14:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | McDonald's french fries, carrots, onions: all of the foods that come from Bill Gates farmland [14:22] BaronVladimirHar Makes you wonder how much of those Trump farm subsidies he got. [14:22] *stormchaser3000 (~iansutter@unaffiliated/stormchaser3000) has joined #techrights [14:24] BaronVladimirHar The neighbors complain that his farm runoff is causing toxic algae blooms in the local waterways. [14:25] BaronVladimirHar In many cases, Gates is basically a slim landlord of farmland. [14:28] schestowitz I know [14:29] schestowitz people won't be happy about uit [14:29] schestowitz revolt in order [14:29] BaronVladimirHar *slum [14:29] BaronVladimirHar https://www.deepinstinct.com/2021/01/24/lsass-memory-dumps-are-stealthier-than-ever-before/ [14:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.deepinstinct.com | LSASS Memory Dumps Are Stealthier Than Ever Before [14:29] BaronVladimirHar I remember seeing this in Windows XP and laughing about the name. [14:30] BaronVladimirHar Someone did that on purpose. [14:31] BaronVladimirHar LSASS taking a dump..... [14:31] BaronVladimirHar Crude humor floating around in a "very professional OS". [14:32] techrights-bot "Yesterday the House of Commons was debating safety of journalists." https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2021/06/state-suppression/ #assange #wikileaks etc. show their huge hypocrisy... [14:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.craigmurray.org.uk | State Suppression - Craig Murray [14:32] BaronVladimirHar They could have avoided this by calling it the Local Credential Authority Service or something. [14:32] *WinterStar has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [14:35] *WinterStar (WinterStar@gateway/vpn/mullvad/winterstar) has joined #techrights [14:36] techrights-bot NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights Wormhole: Instant Encrypted File-Sharing Powered by WebTorrent https://torrentfreak.com/wormhole-instant-encrypted-file-sharing-powered-by-webtorrent-210611/ [14:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Wormhole: Instant Encrypted File-Sharing Powered by WebTorrent * TorrentFreak [14:36] techrights-bot NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights Court: #BREIN Can Continue Action Against Hosts in 'Pirate CDN' Streaming Case https://torrentfreak.com/court-brein-can-continue-action-against-hosts-in-pirate-cdn-streaming-case-210610/ [14:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Court: BREIN Can Continue Action Against Hosts in 'Pirate CDN' Streaming Case * TorrentFreak [14:39] stormchaser3000 anyone know how I can validate this claim? https://hastebin.com/umokiwasaw.makefile [14:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hastebin [14:39] stormchaser3000 that blurb of text was about the former owner of #slackware.uk [14:39] stormchaser3000 he was k-lined [14:40] schestowitz let me check [14:42] schestowitz I think it is phanes [14:42] schestowitz maybe phanes can explain/elucidate [14:45] stormchaser3000 here is another thing the person I quoted mentioned: [08:43] BTW, Chris well deserved the bans he got in many different channels. He's known and remembered in the Slackware and Fedora communities, not welcome in either. [14:45] *blakewoo (~blakewoo@gateway/tor-sasl/blakewo) has joined #techrights [14:47] stormchaser3000 I don't know for sure what is real in this case, but I don't know how to go about investigating it [14:47] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: No problem (about the bridge). Regarding self-hosting IRC, FSF definitely considered that greatly. [14:50] schestowitz XRevan86 I messaged RMS [14:50] schestowitz an open letter in fact, front of techrights.org at the moment [14:51] schestowitz I am working on two very long articles at the moment, unrelated to IRC [14:51] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] Regarding ethicality, to me it's not really about ethics, it's about who crossed the line in such a way that the trust was broken completely meaning there was no de-escalation possible after that point. [14:52] techrights-bot NEWS #EFF The #GDPR , #Privacy and #Monopoly https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/06/gdpr-privacy-and-monopoly [14:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | The GDPR, Privacy and Monopoly | Electronic Frontier Foundation [14:52] BaronVladimirHar Coca Cola managed to spin their financial report for Q1. [14:52] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] as it is after that point that the "old" freenode was doomed [14:53] BaronVladimirHar Using non-GAAP accounting it looks great. [14:54] schestowitz XRevan86: anyway, we have our own network now [14:54] BaronVladimirHar The reality is quite different. Most of the net revenue improvements were cutting their market saturation products. Which are essentially loss leaders that you keep on the shelf just to keep competitors from buying the shelf space. [14:54] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [14:54] BaronVladimirHar It's not just Microsoft playing accounting and tax tricks. [14:54] BaronVladimirHar They have armies of lobbyists and lawyers figuring out how far they can push those accounting scandal laws. [14:54] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [14:55] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: Still dependent on freenode a lot clearly. [14:57] BaronVladimirHar If you look at non GAAP numbers they always look better because companies figure out ways to make things that are horrible for business look like a one off event. [14:58] techrights-bot NEWS #PIA #privacy What does the recent Trojan Shield sting tell us about privacy, trust and surveillance? https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/what-does-the-recent-trojan-shield-sting-tell-us-about-privacy-trust-and-surveillance/ [14:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.privateinternetaccess.com | What does the recent Trojan Shield sting tell us about privacy, trust and surveillance? [14:58] BaronVladimirHar It's important to pay attention to GAAP numbers and look at if they're making a habit of expensing things that just weren't good investments. [14:58] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [14:59] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [14:59] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: And a registration on that other network can still be handy. ● Jun 12 [15:00] techrights-bot NEWS #TheRevelator Fisher Rewilding: How Washington State Is Restoring a Native Carnivore https://therevelator.org/fisher-conservation-washington/ [15:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-therevelator.org | Fisher Rewilding: How Washington State Is Restoring a Native Carnivore The Revelator [15:00] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: For instance, what if the freenode-Matrix bridge is severed? Like IRCCloud maybe. [15:00] schestowitz there is no intention to move to another network we don't have control over [15:00] schestowitz one is already too much [15:00] schestowitz it should be 0 [15:01] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] I don't understand the matterbridge Matrix configuration, so at that point DaemonFC will be on his own. [15:03] BaronVladimirHar Having an IRC client on a laptop is not particularly convenient. [15:03] BaronVladimirHar Of course, nor is getting canceled all the time because of Garrett being a blubbering vagina. [15:04] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] That's a weird slur. [15:04] BaronVladimirHar It sounds like Libera just brings the worst of both worlds. A CoC without any of the advantages of Matrix. [15:04] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] I finally found an example configuration will looks workable. [15:04] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] * which [15:05] BaronVladimirHar I just like to live rent free in his head. [15:05] schestowitz anyway, I'd rather not go back to IRC discussions/debates... as that's kind of old [15:05] schestowitz and goes to no unchartered territories [15:05] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] BaronVladimirHar: What's the Matrix room id? [15:06] schestowitz at the moment I'm investigating some brexit-related stuff [15:06] schestowitz and human rights [15:07] BaronVladimirHar I can't copy it right now because I'm at the car repair place again. For some reason that broken brake decided to start sticking and causing a clunk noise so I'm just having the entire thing removed and tossed in the trash. [15:13] *tr-bridge[m] (tr-bridgem@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ktmnlsonqtiyvoty) has joined #techrights [15:14] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] #freenode_#techrights, I see. [15:14] BaronVladimirHar Old cars get temperamental.and are in the shop every 3 or 4 months. [15:14] BaronVladimirHar New cars, the banks and insurance companies rip you a new one. [15:15] techrights-bot NEWS #Site36 #Privacy #Surveillance #Dataprotection does not kill https://digit.site36.net/2021/06/11/data-protection-does-not-kill/ [15:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-digit.site36.net | Data protection does not kill Matthias Monroy [15:16] schestowitz oh, cool [15:17] *tr-bridge[m] (tr-bridgem@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ktmnlsonqtiyvoty) has left #techrights [15:20] *asusbox (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [15:20] *rianne (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [15:30] techrights-bot The Story of #Techrights , in Banners... http://techrights.org/2021/06/12/techrights-in-banners/ #history #novell #epo #whistleblowing [15:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Story of Techrights, in Banners | Techrights [15:30] *mmu_man (~revol@82-65-227-82.subs.proxad.net) has joined #techrights [15:31] *stormchaser3000 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [15:34] techrights-bot NEWS #Tor New Release: Tor Browser 10.5a16 https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tor-browser-105a16 [15:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.torproject.org | New Release: Tor Browser 10.5a16 | Tor Blog [15:40] *asusbox2 (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [15:42] *asusbox has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [15:48] *asusbox2 has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [15:48] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [15:49] MinceR lol @ referring to polkit as "Linux system service" [15:50] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] disservice [15:51] MinceR they don't even need to inject crap code into Linux anymore for the microsoft shill media to paint the kernel with the bugs [15:51] MinceR it's enough to have a ton of crapware around from proprietarydesktop/gnome/ibm/rh [15:54] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] ryan killed a lot of extensions that I used. For NO practical benefit. [15:54] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] oops, wrong channel ● Jun 12 [16:01] MinceR (cat) (audio:unimportant) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2021/05/05/0da33a6afaf13e9d.mp4 [16:10] gustaf X Revan86: agree 100% about the "Rubicon" of trust. Once Freenode staff started crossing that, there's no going back. [16:11] MinceR do you trust irc.techrights.org even less? [16:12] techrights-bot Ongoing Investigation: Does the #UK #HomeOffice 'Force' #EU Citizens to Carry Around Tracking Devices? http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/06/12/uk-home-office-eu-mobile/ @glynmoody might be interested. This is #brexit ... second-class 'citizenry' [16:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Ongoing Investigation: Does the UK Home Office Force EU Citizens to Carry Around Tracking Devices? [16:13] gustaf no [16:13] gustaf don't see what that has to do with it [16:14] MinceR you rant about how bad freenode is, but you still use it :> [16:14] gustaf there are hundreds of IRC networks, but only one is imploding in a popcorn-worthy way right now [16:14] schestowitz we have contigencies in places now [16:14] BaronVladimirHar I had to have the ebrake system removed on the entire axle. :/ [16:14] BaronVladimirHar Geez. [16:15] *mmu_man has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [16:16] gustaf MinceR: I'm doing an experiment, a channel is in both places and I'm tracking how much traffic there is on both [16:16] schestowitz how would I go about investigating why a laptop keeps going online and offline at random times, for random periods of time? [16:16] gustaf PRIVMSG vs NOTICE/JOIN/PARTS etc [16:16] gustaf schestowitz: wifi or wired? [16:16] schestowitz hardware issue? router reset needed? signal interference? [16:17] schestowitz wifi [16:17] schestowitz it has no ethernet port [16:17] schestowitz it has gone on for a week now [16:17] gustaf anything in the logs ? [16:17] MinceR does it say it gets a strong signal from the AP? [16:17] *gustaf goes into tech support mode [16:18] MinceR here the neighbors spam the bands with tons of badly administered devices and that sometimes prevents some of my devices connect to my AP with something like 10m of air and nothing else in between [16:18] gustaf recently started happening? If so, any changes to hardware/software/placement [16:19] gustaf wifi is so ... nebulous [16:19] MinceR (sometimes running ping -f on that connection to get the other APs to piss off helps) [16:19] schestowitz it gives very off elan reports [16:20] schestowitz error coded -110 -52 and "unable to set freq from rk-something.dmc [16:21] schestowitz 2 more machines lost the connections at the same time over a week ago, but recovered OK [16:21] schestowitz not this week [16:21] schestowitz not this one [16:21] schestowitz the other ones were temporary [16:21] schestowitz reboot of this one is not helping either [16:22] schestowitz elan seems to actuallty be touchpad [16:23] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockchip_RK3288 [16:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Rockchip RK3288 - Wikipedia [16:23] schestowitz Rockchip Dynamic Memory Controller [16:23] schestowitz maybe not related, either [16:23] gustaf got another object/appliance with wifi into the home? https://twitter.com/scottalaird/status/1403041518592528387 [16:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@scottalaird: @eevee A few months ago I thought my home WiFi was being killed by bugs in my fridge's TCP stack. Fortunately I was https://t.co/D6x15iBTuw [16:24] gustaf (sorry for unfree twitter link, dunno how to use nitter) [16:24] schestowitz https://wiki.debian.org/brcmfmac [16:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.debian.org | brcmfmac - Debian Wiki [16:24] schestowitz this seems to be the issue [16:25] schestowitz we didn't add any device [16:25] schestowitz I have not rebooted the router btw [16:25] schestowitz don't see why it would be that buggy that a reboot should settle it [16:26] schestowitz same error as this: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1497318 [16:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.redhat.com | 1497318 Rapberry pi 3 onboard wifi stops working [16:31] *techrights-ipfs (~techright@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:c7f2:e919:b6dc:6252) has joined #techrights [16:31] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 23.81 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 41.58 swarm size (avg): 243.76 [16:31] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 23.81 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 41.58 swarm size (avg): 243.76 [16:35] BaronVladimirHar I'm still getting away with a cable modem gateway that I bought for $100 in 2013. [16:36] gustaf fwiw the wifi on my Rpi4 is a bit flaky when transferring large number of files [16:36] BaronVladimirHar Until Comcast forces it off their network I don't plan to buy a new one. [16:37] BaronVladimirHar The sooner I buy one, the sooner the new one is obsolete again. [16:37] BaronVladimirHar DOCSIS 3.1 devices are still fairly expensive and they're not even that much of an improvement. [16:39] BaronVladimirHar They're not strictly necessary because Comcast hasn't really upgraded their networks to where the potential performance improvements would help. [16:39] BaronVladimirHar Even gigabit internet would be prohibitively expensive and DOCSIS 3.0 can actually handle that. [16:40] MinceR it doesn't have to be prohibitively expensive [16:40] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [16:40] MinceR my ISP is upgrading me from 100 Mbps to 1 Gbps soon, allegedly [16:40] MinceR at the same price as before [16:40] BaronVladimirHar It's like that because of the government protecting their monopoly instead of hitting them with antitrust like they should. [16:41] BaronVladimirHar Again, when does the government follow its own laws? [16:41] MinceR there isn't much competition here either [16:41] BaronVladimirHar The government doesn't follow its own laws and when you sue them in court, about 90% of the time, the court says that the law doesn't say what the law says. [16:42] BaronVladimirHar [16:42] MinceR yup [16:44] BaronVladimirHar So you start out where only about 5% of the time does the law benefit you, and then 9 times out of 10 of the 5%, the court will hand down a ruling that says the government doesn't have to obey the law. [16:44] BaronVladimirHar So you have about a half a percent chance of the law being both on your side and held up in court. [16:48] BaronVladimirHar MinceR: I'm kind of shocked that I won my FOID appeal at the state police commissioner review level. [16:49] BaronVladimirHar I threatened to file a lawsuit against the state police in the Lake County Circuit Court if I lost though. [16:49] BaronVladimirHar I reminded them of the loser pays model in a civil rights case. [16:50] BaronVladimirHar Oh, that's the great thing MinceR.... Appeals can go on for years. Lawyers can work on contingent if they think the state will end up being the party that loses. [16:50] BaronVladimirHar All those billable hours... [16:51] BaronVladimirHar When Indiana lost the same-sex marriage ruling at the first appeals court level, they had to pay the legal bills and court costs for the people who sued them in the amount of $1.2 million dollars. [16:51] *wallacer has quit (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) [16:52] BaronVladimirHar Fundamentally, that means that the state's taxpayers lost $1.2 million and get to drive on shittier roads and send their kids to less well funded schools over a court case they lost. [16:52] *tr-bridge has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [16:53] BaronVladimirHar Do they deserve it? Well, 64% voted for the governor who kept appealing it, so most do. [16:53] immibis should be personally payable by the politicians who approved the law [16:53] *tr-bridge (~tr-bridge@meowr.ru) has joined #techrights [16:53] *wallacer (~quassel@2001:bc8:1824:9a:cafe:babe:b00b:aa06) has joined #techrights [16:53] immibis btw your protection against this kind of thing is VOTING [16:53] BaronVladimirHar There was a big panic between 1996-2004 in the US among conservatives. [16:53] immibis no system can defend against a majority of idiots [16:54] BaronVladimirHar They realized, due to polling, that it was really the older generations that didn't approve of gay marriage by a wide margin, and as soon as they were gone, the issue would be lost. [16:54] BaronVladimirHar So they tried passing gay marriage bans in both the state and federal constitutions. [16:54] BaronVladimirHar They put it on the ballot in many states, and shoved it in, and it's dead language now. [16:54] immibis trans people are the new gay people (from conservatives' POV) [16:55] BaronVladimirHar The majority of Republicans have moved past gay marriage. Not the huge majority. Like 55-60% of them have. [16:55] BaronVladimirHar But yeah, those trans bathroom bills and trans sports bills are big now. [16:56] BaronVladimirHar I really don't care who uses what bathroom or if you have an X on gender on your driver's license. Functionally, it makes little difference. [16:57] BaronVladimirHar Conservatives are trying to back their bathroom bills with the "I don't want some pervert in the bathroom with my kids.", but perverts have access to kids and I doubt the statistics on that would change too much. [16:57] *CrystalMath (~coderain@reactos/developer/theflash) has joined #techrights [16:58] immibis clearly, no conservative that backs a bathroom bill is aware that trans men also exist, because they would freak out when they saw a trans man use a women's bathroom [16:58] BaronVladimirHar There never has been a criminal law in most states on which bathroom you use. [16:59] immibis using the wrong bathroom probably falls under trespassing or something like that [16:59] BaronVladimirHar A business may ask you to leave for any reason, and if you don't it's trespassing. But that's been the extent of it. Most people would feel embarrassed about walking into the wrong bathroom. [16:59] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [16:59] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [16:59] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights ● Jun 12 [17:00] BaronVladimirHar I'm interested in how all of these Consumer Discretionary stocks are on the move again if Roy is correct and the economy is truly terrible. [17:00] BaronVladimirHar If you have no customers because people are broke, who is Starbucks selling all of these expensive coffees to? [17:00] BaronVladimirHar Not me, of course. [17:00] BaronVladimirHar Some people spend more on coffee over a year than I do in car repairs. [17:01] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [17:08] BaronVladimirHar MinceR: It turns out that Walmart has a lovely sumatra mandheling for about $5 a pound. [17:11] immibis > complains about consumerism [17:11] immibis > buys from walmart [17:20] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 21.86 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 38.80 swarm size (avg): 243.80 [17:24] schestowitz turns out my wifi issue is a common one [17:24] schestowitz based on web searches [17:31] techrights-bot NEWS #Techdirt #Trademarks Oatly Sues PureOaty For #Trademark And Trade Dress Infringement https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210610/11453246967/oatly-sues-pureoaty-trademark-trade-dress-infringement.shtml [17:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Oatly Sues PureOaty For Trademark And Trade Dress Infringement | Techdirt [17:31] techrights-bot NEWS #Techdirt #Monopolies Will Congress' Big New Push On #Antitrust Actually Solve Any Competition Issues? https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210611/14141546975/will-congress-big-new-push-antitrust-actually-solve-any-competition-issues.shtml [17:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Will Congress' Big New Push On Antitrust Actually Solve Any Competition Issues? | Techdirt [17:33] techrights-bot old: #LinuxFoundation http://blog.cleancoder.com/uncle-bob/2019/11/08/OpenLetterLinuxFoundation.html [17:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.cleancoder.com | Clean Coder Blog [17:33] techrights-bot old: "He went on to say that the Code of Conduct people at the conference were concerened about some of my political opinions, and that some of the speakers of the conference refused to speak if I was going to speak." http://blog.cleancoder.com/uncle-bob/2020/09/12/TheDisinvitation.html [17:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.cleancoder.com | Clean Coder Blog [17:37] *mmu_man (~revol@82-65-227-82.subs.proxad.net) has joined #techrights [17:39] BaronVladimirHar Overcrowding on the available channels is the biggest issue on the old ones. [17:39] BaronVladimirHar It got much worse when people started buying streaming sticks. [17:40] BaronVladimirHar Sometimes it just drives the automatic channel selector crazy because there's really only three channels that are worth using, even though there's technically 11 of them. [17:40] schestowitz maybe.. [17:40] schestowitz but why only one device affected? [17:40] schestowitz initially 3 [17:40] schestowitz but the other 2 recovered quickly [17:41] BaronVladimirHar Sometimes positioning. Sometimes having your own devices too close together contributes to the problem. [17:42] schestowitz does not matter where it is located [17:42] BaronVladimirHar It could just be failing hardware. [17:43] BaronVladimirHar It doesn't always just stop working. [17:43] schestowitz it's up and down [17:43] schestowitz sometimes it connected ok [17:43] schestowitz 20 min up, 30 off, 3 hours up, 4 down [17:43] schestowitz random almost [17:43] schestowitz been worse the past 2 days, barely up at all [17:44] schestowitz but I cannot see a clear pattern [17:45] schestowitz i very much doubt it's the router itself, as I checked everything, just didn't reboot it [17:45] schestowitz bbiab [17:45] schestowitz i already wasted so much time on this [17:45] schestowitz someone else would have chucked this cheap laptop in the bin and replaced it.. [17:47] BaronVladimirHar I've had days like that, but it was much worse in Chicago. [17:47] BaronVladimirHar Crammed into an apartment building with a zillion wifi networks and those damned Chromecasts. [17:56] MinceR schestowitz: in some places, "Ficsor" is misspelled as "Fiscsor" [17:57] MinceR 12 175336 < immibis> btw your protection against this kind of thing is VOTING [17:57] MinceR not in a two-party (or one-party) system [17:58] MinceR 12 175351 < immibis> no system can defend against a majority of idiots [17:58] MinceR we can at least end the concept that them being the majority gives them the right to run everyone else's life, though [17:58] immibis even a two-party system is defended against by voting, it just takes multiple iterations of voting for the least fascist party [17:58] MinceR > get to drive on shittier roads [17:58] MinceR and then "journalists" are very surprised that SUVs are popular [17:58] immibis MinceR: literally nothing can protect you from a majority of idiots. literally. nothing. [17:59] MinceR technology could [17:59] immibis maybe you can try to put up roadblocks, but they can tear down every single roadblock if they are so inclined, because whatever you have, they have more of it because they outnumber you [17:59] immibis because they're a majority [17:59] MinceR we just need to stop handing powerful weapons we develop to idiots and their figureheads [17:59] MinceR immibis: if it bleeds, we can kill it. ● Jun 12 [18:00] MinceR > who gets to use which bathroom [18:00] immibis MinceR: you bleed and there are more of them than you [18:00] MinceR Serious Business [18:00] MinceR immibis: yes, and technology is a power multiplier [18:00] MinceR 12 185832 < immibis> even a two-party system is defended against by voting, it just takes multiple iterations of voting for the least fascist party [18:00] immibis somewhat. idiots will find a way to trick you into giving them the technology [18:01] MinceR no, the most that multiple iterations of voting can get you is several switches between two nearly identical parties [18:01] MinceR well, we need to be smart enough so that idiots can't trick us [18:01] MinceR this implies getting rid of the state [18:01] immibis MinceR: imagine party 1 is consistently less fascist and gets voted for. How is party 2 going to take over? they're going to become slightly less fascist than party 1 because they want the vote [18:02] immibis unless some external force pushes both parties to be more fascist, more than the competition pushes them to be less fascist... [18:02] MinceR no, people will get tired of party 1's fascist deeds and policies and will vote for party 2 in the hope that they're different [18:02] MinceR maybe party 2 will even tell them they're different [18:02] MinceR and when they win, surprise, they're the same [18:03] MinceR people will get punished by the ruling party so they try to punish the ruling party by voting for the other [18:03] MinceR and next cycle, the first party comes back [18:04] MinceR and if someone wants to buy a law and has enough money, they just buy both parties and get their way [18:05] MinceR and no matter how anyone votes, it happens [18:07] BaronVladimirHar MinceR: I was watching the last season of The Man In the High Castle. [18:07] BaronVladimirHar The Nazi who was watching the multiverse version of America that became a superpower said that we'd win the war with Vietnam very easily because of better technology. [18:08] BaronVladimirHar An enemy that is willing to take huge losses because they can do it will eventually wear you down. [18:09] MinceR north vietnam had the advantage of being defenders at home [18:10] MinceR and that the usian people weren't all that invested in the war [18:10] BaronVladimirHar Nobody wanted to fight it. The government said they had to or they'd be imprisoned. [18:11] BaronVladimirHar Very few people actually signed up for the military at that point without being drafted. [18:12] MinceR also, they were also backed by a superpower [18:13] BaronVladimirHar US federal law allowed for drafting men as young as 17. [18:13] BaronVladimirHar Government: You can't have sex with them. That would traumatize them forever because they're just kids. Also government: Here's a gun, kid, go kill these brown people and then have PTSD and live in a box under the L when you get home! [18:14] BaronVladimirHar The government reserves the right to do truly awful things to anyone at any time it wants, even if it currently chooses not to do so. [18:16] BaronVladimirHar MinceR: The Democrats couldn't repeal the draft by a party line vote right now, but they could repeal the financial consequences for not doing so. [18:16] MinceR BaronVladimirHar: "If they can bleed and run, they can hold a gun." [18:16] BaronVladimirHar For example, you don't qualify for federal aid for college if you don't register, but that's a thing that affects the federal budget. [18:16] BaronVladimirHar So they could stick it in a budget bill and pass it with a slim majority. [18:17] BaronVladimirHar They don't want to get rid of it anymore than the Republicans do. [18:17] BaronVladimirHar If they did, they'd defang it so that it's still on the books, but with few consequences for not doing so. [18:18] BaronVladimirHar They could also zero out the budget for the Selective Service System and force the Republicans to pass a bill to remove the consequences for not registering, since you can't now. [18:18] BaronVladimirHar Again, they don't want to. [18:18] BaronVladimirHar (Or kick it to the courts. At that point, the government is penalizing all men over something they're required to do and can't, so the courts would have to strike down the SSS." [18:19] MinceR also, you only have rights until you're born [18:19] *AVRS has quit (Quit: WeeChat 3.0) [18:19] BaronVladimirHar There's numerous ways to kill SSS without any Republican votes. [18:19] techrights-bot A look back at site banners from 2006-2021; they help illuminate or show our changing focus over the years http://techrights.org/2021/06/12/techrights-in-banners/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/12/techrights-in-banners/ [18:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Story of Techrights, in Banners | Techrights [18:19] BaronVladimirHar Mandy confuses what our government agencies are called. He calls Social Security "SSS". [18:19] MinceR :> [18:19] BaronVladimirHar I said, "That's the Selective Service System.". Whaaaat? [18:19] MinceR it's like the SS, only more S. [18:20] BaronVladimirHar SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSs [18:20] MinceR http://bash.org/?400459 [18:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bash.org | QDB: Quote #400459 [18:21] BaronVladimirHar I'll get you, He-Man! [18:22] techrights-bot IBMers past and present falling in love with buzzwords https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2021/06/clouds-trillion-dollars-2030-potential.html [18:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.irvingwb.com | Irving Wladawsky-Berger: Cloud's Trillion Dollars 2030 Potential [18:23] MinceR i'll get him, you-man! [18:23] BaronVladimirHar MinceR: That whoosh whoosh whoosh noise must have been the parking brake too. [18:23] BaronVladimirHar I guess it stuck a little and then it started clunking. [18:23] BaronVladimirHar Tearing that out was actually the best thing I've ever decided to do to that car. [18:24] BaronVladimirHar How the hell does GM design such awful shit? [18:24] BaronVladimirHar A parking brake that breaks in three different places? For no reason? Really! [18:24] BaronVladimirHar I've never seen anything like this happen on any other car, some with even more miles than this one has. [18:25] MinceR afaict the usian car industry lost the plot when the oil price rising forced them to make more economical cars, then environmental regulations forced this further [18:25] MinceR it's a pity, they made pretty cool stuff when they could afford to stick a huge, simple engine in a huge car [18:25] MinceR is it an electrical parking brake? [18:25] BaronVladimirHar No, it's a mechanical one. [18:26] BaronVladimirHar You have to pump down the e-brake pedal with your foot several times to ratchet it down. [18:26] MinceR weird [18:26] MinceR i guess it has a bench in the front row? [18:27] BaronVladimirHar A bench? [18:27] BaronVladimirHar Bench seating? No. Leather bucket seats. [18:27] BaronVladimirHar What's left of leather after 18 years anyway. [18:27] MinceR not individual seats with shift lever and parking brake and whatever in between [18:27] MinceR ic [18:27] BaronVladimirHar I wish mom would stop buying this nonsense. [18:28] BaronVladimirHar The only way she could possibly buy something worse is if she went into the luxury car market. [18:28] BaronVladimirHar With those air ride suspensions and everything. [18:29] BaronVladimirHar They start sagging pretty quickly and then you have the mechanic ripping it out to replace it with regular struts anyway. [18:29] techrights-bot #torvalds needs #gnu https://neritam.wordpress.com/2021/06/10/linus-torvalds-says-gpl-was-defining-factor-in-linuxs-success/ [18:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-neritam.wordpress.com | Linus Torvalds says GPL was defining factor in Linuxs success neritam [18:30] BaronVladimirHar There was a guy that came in complaining of his Cadillac doing it one day and he didn't want to pay $3,500 to have the air ride replaced on a 1998 Cadillac. [18:30] BaronVladimirHar So he started to walk off. I said, "You could just have it converted to normal struts.". He asked the shop manager how much that would be and he said "$950". [18:31] BaronVladimirHar It's what almost everyone ends up doing at some point. Giving up and changing over to quick struts on both axles. [18:31] BaronVladimirHar He asked the manager what the downside is. "It won't ride like a Cadillac anymore." [18:31] BaronVladimirHar I was like, "Hey, if the air ride's broken it's definitely worse now than struts that aren't broken.". [18:33] BaronVladimirHar The struts are the main load bearing component in the suspension system, so at first they're just noisy and you're bouncing around like crazy, then they start damaging other expensive parts in there, and then your wheel could actually fall off while you're driving. [18:33] BaronVladimirHar People drive around on bad struts and turn the radio up. I've seen plenty of cars on the road recently where the wheel fell off and they crashed, or it was parked and sitting on a wheel that folded in. [18:34] BaronVladimirHar I don't know if they're broke or just cheap, but getting into an accident over a wear item that does need to be replaced sometimes is stupid. [18:37] techrights-bot NEWS #Techdirt #microsoft #windows DOJ Says It's Time To Add #Ransomware Attacks To The Ever Expanding 'War On Terror' https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210605/18403946939/doj-says-time-to-add-ransomware-attacks-to-ever-expanding-war-terror.shtml [18:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-DOJ Says It's Time To Add Ransomware Attacks To The Ever Expanding 'War On Terror' | Techdirt [18:40] BaronVladimirHar https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210608/07113246949/former-fcc-boss-wheeler-says-trump-fcc-napped-cybersecurity.shtml [18:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Former FCC Boss Wheeler Says Trump FCC Napped On Cybersecurity | Techdirt [18:40] techrights-bot NEWS #DontExtraditeAssange #wikileaks #assange #uk Cross party group of UK parliamentarians call on President Biden to drop the charges against Julian Assange ahead of G7 Summit in Cornwall https://dontextraditeassange.com/press-clip/cross-party-group-of-uk-parliamentarians-call-on-president-biden-to-drop-the-charges-against-julian-assange-ahead-of-g7-summit-in-cornwall/ [18:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dontextraditeassange.com | Cross party group of UK parliamentarians call on President Biden to drop the charges against Julian Assange ahead of G7 Summit in Cornwall - Don't Extradite Assange [18:40] BaronVladimirHar Comcast and AT&T have fake security products that they pitch to customers as endpoint protection. [18:40] BaronVladimirHar If you rent their very expensive modems that hardly cost them anything. [18:41] BaronVladimirHar It's even worse than Microsoft Pretender. [18:41] techrights-bot "The European Union unveiled plans Thursday for a digital ID wallet that residents could use to access services across the 27-nation bloc, part of a post-pandemic recovery strategy that involves accelerating the shift to an online world." https://apnews.com/article/europe-health-coronavirus-pandemic-lifestyle-travel-73f90d18909c595da463994e16e17348 [18:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-apnews.com | EU plans digital ID wallet for bloc's post-pandemic life [18:41] BaronVladimirHar Consider that every Windows PC that gets taken over by ransomware has Microsoft Defender integrated into the OS. Why would you install the same program for Linux? [18:41] BaronVladimirHar schestowitz: ^ [18:42] BaronVladimirHar It didn't help those corporate networks that relied on Windows and Defender much, did it? [18:42] techrights-bot #FIDO and #FIDO2 for your #fakeSecurity and false sense of safety https://risky.biz/soapbox52/ see http://techrights.org/2020/10/15/fido-false-sense-of-security/ [18:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-risky.biz | Risky Biz Soap Box: Banks to embrace Yubikeys for customers - Risky Business [18:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | A FIDO/FIDO2 False Sense of Security for Premium Prices | Techrights [18:42] BaronVladimirHar They painted themselves into a corner where it's not really possible to secure Windows anymore. [18:43] techrights-bot The first native Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4 SATA carrier for tiny DIY NAS https://www.crowdsupply.com/wiretrustee/wiretrustee-sata [18:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.crowdsupply.com | Wiretrustee SATA | Crowd Supply [18:43] BaronVladimirHar "MSHTML" is just part of the platform forever now for backwards compatibility and is still responsible for at least dozens of CVEs in Windows each year even though there's no modern use for it. [18:43] MinceR BaronVladimirHar: so that you'd finally have a piece of software to tell you that claria's gator is perfectly safe, not malware at all [18:44] MinceR though this could be implemented far better, in far smaller size, as a 2 line shell script [18:45] BaronVladimirHar I'm not seeing a reason to install third party antivirus programs. [18:45] BaronVladimirHar I haven't seen any evidence that they're doing a better job. In fact, they often steal data and then Microsoft buys it because it outsources the GDPR violations to AVG/Avast. [18:46] psydroid everything that has been implemented for Windows increases inertia to move away from the platform [18:47] psydroid I outright asked some Microsoft shills what is lacking on GNU/Linux and they never even give me an answer [18:48] techrights-bot Best Free #Android Apps: #Tusky lightweight client for Mastodon http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152217 #Linux #TuxMachines [18:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Free Android Apps: Tusky lightweight client for Mastodon | Tux Machines [18:48] techrights-bot #RasPad 3 Review Part 1: #RaspberryPi 4 tablet specs, unboxing and assembly http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152216 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | RasPad 3 Review Part 1: Raspberry Pi 4 tablet specs, unboxing and assembly | Tux Machines ● Jun 12 [19:14] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@76-234-138-224.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) has joined #techrights [19:15] AdmFubar https://www.ipwatchdog.com/2021/06/11/scholars-register-copyrights-reinforce-opposition-american-law-institutes-restatement-copyright-project/id=134519/ [19:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ipwatchdog.com | Scholars, Register of Copyrights Reinforce Opposition to American Law Institutes Restatement of Copyright Project [19:16] AdmFubar https://www.osnews.com/story/133550/google-ends-its-attack-on-the-url-bar-resumes-showing-full-address-in-chrome/ [19:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google ends its attack on the URL bar, resumes showing full address in Chrome OSnews [19:17] AdmFubar https://www.osnews.com/story/133528/apple-will-not-roll-out-new-privacy-features-in-china-and-several-other-countries/ [19:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple will not roll out new privacy features in China and several other countries OSnews [19:20] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 37.20 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 83.73 swarm size (avg): 243.83 [19:26] AdmFubar https://www.salon.com/2021/06/12/jeff-bezos-bad-week-gets-worse-with-introduction-of-sweeping-new-big-tech-antitrust-legislation/ [19:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Jeff Bezos bad week gets worse with introduction of sweeping new Big Tech antitrust legislation | Salon.com [19:39] *DVulgaris has quit (Quit: Catch you later.) [19:39] BaronVladimirHar MinceR: But that's how dumb people are. [19:40] BaronVladimirHar They'll go pay $1,800 for an iPhone every 2 years, after tax, and then scream about a $200 thing that keeps the wheel from falling the fuck off their car, on the interstate. [19:40] *DVulgaris (~quassel@2a00:7c40:c2d0:199:9ff4:1561:725e:617c) has joined #techrights [19:41] MinceR lol [19:42] BaronVladimirHar Mom bought a set of tires from that Monro place again. I don't know why she goes there. It's expensive. They're idiots. [19:43] BaronVladimirHar She pulls up asking them to see why one of her tires keeps losing air and the guy's just like "You want me to put some air in it for you?". [19:43] BaronVladimirHar They always get her for the tire protection plan too, which oddly doesn't protect her from them. [19:44] AdmFubar it protects them frrom doing anything [19:44] BaronVladimirHar She had a flat when we met her in Indiana for dinner a few months ago and I went to put some fix a flat in it and the can exploded on me. [19:44] BaronVladimirHar It turned out that Monro, your helpful tire people, didn't install the valve correctly and there was a bigass nail in the center of the tire too. [19:45] BaronVladimirHar How do run a tire place and not install a valve correctly? [19:46] MinceR https://hugelolcdn.com/i/756229.jpg [19:46] BaronVladimirHar Everything in that town is pretty messed up. From the Starbucks to the auto repair shops. [19:46] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: It's the thought that counts, right? :) [19:46] MinceR sometimes even the thought doesn't count [19:47] BaronVladimirHar The guy who told mom that all the Impala needed was a new oil pan gasket and a new lower intake and it would be good to go at least did those jobs right. [19:47] MinceR and sometimes there is not even a thought [19:47] BaronVladimirHar Unfortunately, he glossed over about a million other items that were either already shot or close to it. [19:52] AdmFubar I just noticed the new drop down menus on TechRights... ● Jun 12 [20:05] *blakewoo has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [20:06] *blakewoo (~blakewoo@gateway/tor-sasl/blakewo) has joined #techrights [20:08] AdmFubar things like this scare me as to how fragile the inter-webber-tubes are [20:08] AdmFubar https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/09/fastly_explains_web_blackout/ [20:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Fastly 'fesses up to breaking the internet with an 'an undiscovered software bug' triggered by a customer The Register [20:33] AdmFubar https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/06/some-people-cant-get-fcc-subsidy-because-street-isnt-the-same-as-st/ [20:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Some people cant get FCC subsidy because Street isnt the same as St. | Ars Technica [20:35] AdmFubar oh the irony of this! [20:35] AdmFubar https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-pushes-windows-10-kb4023057-again-to-fix-update-issues/ [20:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Microsoft pushes Windows 10 KB4023057 again to fix update issues [20:38] MinceR https://media.tenor.co/images/231e2f67bc42bbfcff592d58f0e9517e/raw ● Jun 12 [21:03] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [21:03] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [21:13] AdmFubar https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210423/09130146665/5000-t-mobile-employees-lost-their-jobs-post-merger-while-ex-ceo-john-legere-saw-137-million-golden-parachute.shtml [21:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-5,000 T-Mobile Employees Lost Their Jobs Post-Merger While Ex-CEO John Legere Saw A $137 Million Golden Parachute | Techdirt [21:15] MinceR (audio:important) https://youtu.be/lnncvVlt2mw?t=40 [21:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Can Modern Main Battle Tanks Defend Against a Baguette? - YouTube [21:15] BaronVladimirHar https://m.businesstoday.in/lite/story/how-bill-gates-used-to-vanish-from-work-to-meet-women-secretly/1/441355.html [21:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-m.businesstoday.in | Bill Gates used to vanish from work to meet women secretly, says report [21:20] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.86 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 47.93 swarm size (avg): 243.86 [21:26] BaronVladimirHar ComEd admitted in federal court that it overcharged customers using bribery to government officials and paid $200 million to the government. (Not the people it swindled.) [21:27] BaronVladimirHar Why would the government want to interrupt bribery when it could come fine people for it later? [21:27] BaronVladimirHar It's broke. They can take the $200 million away from ComEd and use my money to make my life worse a second time with it. [21:28] BaronVladimirHar Government is truly amazing. [21:29] BaronVladimirHar Of course it's the government so that $200 million will be like a few thousand unemployed kayakers making $3,000 a year, no taxes, while the shelves at Walmart are bare. [21:34] BaronVladimirHar * a month [21:34] BaronVladimirHar MinceR I can't decide if the government is more random or evil. [21:34] MinceR lolsorandumb [21:34] BaronVladimirHar Maybe there's a method to the madness. Making people work and pay taxes and then read news about Kayak Man. [21:35] BaronVladimirHar Sucking up his enhanced unemployment while you struggle and suffer and pay fines and taxes. [21:35] BaronVladimirHar Kayak Man might be Welfare Queen 2021 Edition. [21:36] BaronVladimirHar The news should say "Congratulations. The assholes you voted for did this. Hope you're happy. Morons.". [21:37] BaronVladimirHar News: What are you living off of? [21:37] BaronVladimirHar Kayak Man: Uhhhhh, savings.....mostly. [21:37] BaronVladimirHar News: And you haven't had a job in a year and a half. [21:38] BaronVladimirHar Kayak Man: Well, there might be a very tiny amount of $40,000 a year tax free unemployment and Obamacare in there...with the, uhhhh, savings. [21:39] *includeals has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [21:41] BaronVladimirHar MinceR Does Hungary have a Kayak Man? [21:41] MinceR probably not [21:42] MinceR we have a viktor orban, a lorinc meszaros, a stephen tiborcz, and hundreds of other parasites [21:44] *mmu_man has quit (Quit: leaving) [21:45] *mmu_man (~revol@82-65-227-82.subs.proxad.net) has joined #techrights [21:48] BaronVladimirHar schestowitz is right on some level. [21:48] BaronVladimirHar One Bill Gates has been more harmful to society than a million Kayak Mans. [21:49] BaronVladimirHar But it's not an either/or problem. [21:51] BaronVladimirHar Bill Gates has hoarded $144 billion and tripled his money since he started "giving it away". He wasn't even honest to his wife and he barely even showed up at Microsoft, which was paying him, where everyone knew he was spending the whole day off cheating on his wife. That's before Epstein and the whole absentee landlord of farming and the medicine patent harm. [21:51] BaronVladimirHar The Nobel Committee is a joke. [21:51] MinceR our broken society empowers all of this [21:52] MinceR gates gets to do his crimes and get away with them because of broken laws, corruption and the state that enables them [21:52] BaronVladimirHar Al Gore for Climate Change. Barack Obama for Peace. Bill Gates for what? So many options. Philandering. [21:52] MinceR parasites get to parasitize us because of the state which taxes us and then hands the money to whomever they feel like [21:53] BaronVladimirHar Maybe that's why they call him a philanthropist. [21:53] MinceR bill gates for locking PCs into windows and macos, i guess [21:53] MinceR also for forcing a DRM chip into PCs [21:53] BaronVladimirHar Philanthropy and Philandering are pretty close. [21:53] BaronVladimirHar Slip of the tongue. [21:53] MinceR also for lowering the standards of quality for everything that involves computers [21:54] BaronVladimirHar You're just envious of the concon for the size of his auxaux. [21:55] MinceR lol [21:55] BaronVladimirHar https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/3-windows-98-bugs-worth-revisiting/ [21:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | 3 Windows 98 Bugs Worth Revisiting [21:55] MinceR the con is definitely real [21:56] BaronVladimirHar Since IE could open file paths, just pointing it at either would crash the computer. [21:56] MinceR if you didn't want the computer to crash, why did you run windows on it? [21:56] BaronVladimirHar MinceR which is where conditionals come in handy. [21:56] BaronVladimirHar If you're IE, great. Here. Open C:\con\con [21:58] BaronVladimirHar I had a page on my site that demonstrated the issue. With a warning not to click it if you didn't want your computer to immediately crash and lose everything you had open and potentially corrupt the file system. [21:59] BaronVladimirHar Wednesday, I have to go back to the car repair place again. ● Jun 12 [22:00] BaronVladimirHar MinceR the good thing about the struts finally crapping out is that they happened within 60 days of getting an alignment at that shop after a tie rod end replacement. [22:00] *inky (~inky@141.136.79.172) has joined #techrights [22:00] BaronVladimirHar And they guarantee that your alignment will be correct for 60 days, and will fix it if it's off within that time. [22:01] BaronVladimirHar It could have been worse. They could have waited another two weeks and then I would have had to pay another $100 to get it aligned again because the struts were worn down when it was aligned last time. [22:02] BaronVladimirHar I hate machines. [22:02] BaronVladimirHar I suspect that Roy does too after the router issues. [22:03] BaronVladimirHar Those can be very hard to figure out. [22:04] BaronVladimirHar Apple always ships extremely buggy new standards to say it has the latest in something and it always blows up on the user. The original wifi and the wifi on the iPhone was so bad that they had two failed product demos related to wifi that was entirely avoidable by waiting another generation to introduce it. [22:05] BaronVladimirHar It blows my mind that Windows still lets you use WEP and TKIP and that they're only apparently removing support from Windows 11. [22:06] BaronVladimirHar If it's allowed, someone will end up doing it. [22:07] BaronVladimirHar WPA has been around since 2003 and it's just hard to believe there's a use case where someone has Windows 10 on something and needs WEP. [22:08] BaronVladimirHar WEP is only good enough to keep your neighbor out of your network if they have no idea how easy it is to bypass. [22:11] MinceR apple ships standards? [22:13] BaronVladimirHar Sometimes. [22:14] BaronVladimirHar My router is a mess. [22:15] BaronVladimirHar By default it allows either WPA with TKIP or WPA2 and operates in a/b/g/n mixed mode and is vulnerable to WPS reaver attacks. [22:15] BaronVladimirHar I set it to WPA, 802.11n only, and no WPS support. [22:15] BaronVladimirHar *WPA2 [22:16] BaronVladimirHar I think it tries to support WEP too, but not by default. [22:16] BaronVladimirHar Netgear is just Chinese junk that tries to operate in a mode where it works so they don't get a lot of support calls. [22:17] BaronVladimirHar WPA2 and wireless n only won't inconvenience you unless you're trying to use something quite old. [22:17] BaronVladimirHar In fact, in mixed mode, the theoretical maximum speed of the network is slower. [22:18] BaronVladimirHar It falls from 450 Megabits per second to 217, just so that legacy devices _can_ join, even if you don't use any. [22:19] BaronVladimirHar Wireless n is about 9.5 times faster than Comcast's most common plan though. [22:20] BaronVladimirHar So assuming they don't boot me off for DOCSIS 3.0 going obsolete, I could have several more years with this router. [22:20] immibis you complain about big corporations swindling, and then you use comcast [22:21] BaronVladimirHar Only ISP in my neighborhood. [22:21] BaronVladimirHar I use a condom (comdom?). PIA [22:22] BaronVladimirHar There's so many parasite lawyers watching the internet in America now that you need a VPN that just tosses DMCA letters in the trash and doesn't have any logs to give the cops. [22:23] BaronVladimirHar When people are getting infringement letters for downloading Ubuntu. [22:23] BaronVladimirHar When ISPs have to hand over a million subscriber identities because they visited a website critical of the president. [22:24] BaronVladimirHar Not everyone likes the president. Visiting a website protesting the president isn't illegal. They just want you to be too afraid to do it. [22:25] BaronVladimirHar https://www.wired.com/story/fbi-anom-phone-network-encryption-debate [22:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The FBI's Anom Stunt Rattles the Encryption Debate | WIRED [22:25] BaronVladimirHar "So much for going dark." [22:25] BaronVladimirHar So much for using proprietary encryption software. [22:28] MinceR not sure what's rattled about it [22:28] MinceR it was obvious before that if you want security, you've got to rely on free software [22:28] MinceR and it's still obvious [22:28] MinceR it was obvious before that if you buy a black box with bold claims, you can't trust it [22:28] MinceR and it's still obvious [22:30] immibis BaronVladimirHar: run your own fiber optics [22:30] MinceR lol [22:32] techrights-bot SEASON 10 THE WHISTLEBLOWER: The Presses Roll https://thegroundtruthproject.org/the-presses-roll-episode-3-the-whistleblower-daniel-ellsberg-pentagon-papers-1971-history/ #thegroundtruthproject | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/12/#latest [22:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thegroundtruthproject.org | The Presses Roll | The GroundTruth Project [22:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [22:34] *immibis has quit (K-Lined) [22:34] kingoffrance well all it says is FBI will snoop on everyone warrant or no [22:34] BaronVladimirHar MinceR It's hard to feel sorry for anyone who got arrested over this. One, they're idiots for relying on proprietary software that they got from some other criminal. [22:34] kingoffrance because you are in the same network as a bad person, the same isp, the same subnet, ... [22:35] BaronVladimirHar Two, they're pedophiles and drug traffickers and money launderers and tax cheats. [22:35] kingoffrance all they have to say is " the agency had taken down another secure communications system marketed to criminals" [22:35] MinceR "secure" [22:35] kingoffrance so all that is needed is someone says "xyz is secure, good for crime" [22:35] MinceR that's why it was so easy to take down :> [22:35] BaronVladimirHar Three, their downfall should be a lesson to anyone who needs security to avoid a similar mess in the future. [22:36] kingoffrance i dont disagree with any of that [22:36] techrights-bot #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152218 #Linux #TuxMachines [22:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [22:36] kingoffrance just im not seeing any warrant except "we feel this network is full of criminals, so we are giong to monitor EVERYONE" [22:37] kingoffrance where does that end? [22:37] BaronVladimirHar https://www.autoevolution.com/news/the-android-auto-bug-that-made-buying-a-new-car-the-only-option-163118.html [22:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Android Auto Bug That Made Buying a New Car the Only Option - autoevolution [22:37] kingoffrance warrants are basically for specific purposes, not "im a gonna watch the whole city" [22:37] BaronVladimirHar Buy a new car because Google is shit about supporting the one you have five more years of payments on! [22:38] kingoffrance you live in the same town as bad guy, have to watch you [22:38] techrights-bot NEWS #Techdirt #Internet Senator Wicker Introduces Bill To Guarantee The Internet Sucks https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210611/10154046973/senator-wicker-introduces-bill-to-guarantee-internet-sucks.shtml [22:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Senator Wicker Introduces Bill To Guarantee The Internet Sucks | Techdirt [22:38] BaronVladimirHar I found out why John wanted the car title out of my name so badly. As long as I'm a co owner, he has to pay more for insurance because they score my bankruptcy that he caused on the policy premiums. [22:39] MinceR sounds like a free software replacement to android auto is in order [22:39] MinceR with free software navigation that will actually find the address you search for (i'm looking at you, openstreetmap) [22:40] MinceR also, one more reason not to use android later than version 10 [22:41] kingoffrance It's important not to extrapolate too broadly from the Anom experience. According to the documents released this week, the FBI went to great lengths to work under foreign laws and avoid surveilling Americans throughout the three-year initiative. [22:41] kingoffrance yet At the FBI's request, that unidentified person snuck an addition into Anom: a calculator app that relayed every communication sent on the platform back to the FBI. [22:41] kingoffrance so basically its not a search to just relay everything to them lol [22:41] kingoffrance i admit it may just be a shitty article [22:41] BaronVladimirHar The guy the FBI got ANON from got paid a lot of money. [22:42] psydroid Android disables apps now instead of just updating them, even those that aren't being managed by the Play Store but something like F-droid [22:42] MinceR i guess the new motto is "Do evil." [22:43] psydroid I'm looking forward to the next generation of Pine devices that will hopefully be a bit more powerful and mature [22:44] psydroid "Do as much evil as you can get away with" [22:45] kingoffrance it just seems to me like if we search everyone, then you specifically arent being targetted, therefore no violation of your "rights" because its all "equal" lol [22:46] kingoffrance and we will only extra-target criminals and foreigners, so no violation [22:46] kingoffrance consensus based law lol [22:47] kingoffrance as long as spying is spread out to include everyone, its not spying! [22:48] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] finally got banned from freenode for calling them out for deleting chits about chit censorship [22:48] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] that's one less user for freenode... one more user for freenodekind... wait that's not right [22:50] techrights-bot Veloren, the free and open source multiplayer voxel RPG has a major release out | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/veloren-the-free-and-open-source-multiplayer-voxel-rpg-has-a-major-release-out #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/12/#latest [22:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Veloren, the free and open source multiplayer voxel RPG has a major release out | GamingOnLinux [22:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [22:52] techrights-bot #OpenMW 0.47.0 for #Morrowind is coming with a Release Candidate available | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/openmw-0470-for-morrowind-is-coming-with-a-release-candidate-available #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux [22:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-OpenMW 0.47.0 for Morrowind is coming with a Release Candidate available | GamingOnLinux [22:53] *blakewoo is now known as blakewo [22:53] techrights-bot The fantastic Linux gaming overlay MangoHud has a new version out | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/the-fantastic-linux-gaming-overlay-mangohud-has-a-new-version-out #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/12/#latest [22:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The fantastic Linux gaming overlay MangoHud has a new version out | GamingOnLinux [22:53] kingoffrance i would file it under category of "look, a 3 headed monkey!" "look, we arent targetting you, we are targetting everyone equally" [22:56] techrights-bot Think #XFCE looks bad? Think again! - XFCE Customization https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BL49b-u7ucQ #xfce4 has lots of nice options now. I love it. #gnu #linux [22:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Think XFCE looks bad? Think again! - XFCE Customization - YouTube [22:57] techrights-bot Life Without The #Internet , The Zoomer Experience https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SENE8dVqV8c [22:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Life Without The Internet, The Zoomer Experience - YouTube ● Jun 12 [23:03] samiamsam 17:42 Android disables apps now instead of just updating them, even those that aren't being managed by the Play Store but something like F-droid [23:03] techrights-bot #VzLinux ISO Download - Another #CentOS 8 alternative - Linux Shout https://www.how2shout.com/linux/vzlinux-iso-download-another-centos-8-alternative/ #how2shout | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/12/#latest [23:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.how2shout.com | VzLinux ISO Download - Another CentOS 8 alternative - Linux Shout [23:04] samiamsam psydroid: they ask for permission to do that every time you install an app. you can say no, but you can't make it stop asking; once you accidentally accept, you can't undo it (afaik) [23:04] samiamsam psydroid: of course, it asks that on every app, but when activated operates on all apps past and future, not just the current one [23:05] samiamsam so a number of combined dark ui patterns [23:05] kingoffrance quote from court document: Based on my training and experience, I am aware that the continued demand for these encrypted device platforms by criminals is significant. It is primarily driven by the requirements for organized crime [23:05] kingoffrance thats how they view things, encryption is primarily for crime [23:06] kingoffrance of course, if its encrypted you cant prove that [23:06] psydroid samiamsam, I am "fine" with them doing that, but it's a big no for me, so this will be my last Android device [23:06] psydroid (I didn't buy it, as usual) [23:06] kingoffrance maybe i am more concerned the judge "yep, only criminals want privacy, ALLOWED" [23:06] MinceR this one might be my last as well, as LG stopped making phones [23:06] MinceR the industry is just going to shit [23:08] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] most people are satisfied with $bigcorp having access, and the ones who are willing to put up with significant additional inconvenience to prevent $bigcorp having access are mostly criminals. They are not wrong. That is reality [23:08] kingoffrance A hardened encrypted device is a communication device that (1) sends and receives encrypted electronic communications, and/or (2) encrypts the data stored on the device. [23:08] kingoffrance in other words, basic encyrption is "hardened" so this is how you lower the bar [23:08] techrights-bot #helloSystem 0.5 Released For macOS-Inspired #FreeBSD Desktop - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=helloSystem-0.5 #Phoronix #BSD [23:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-helloSystem 0.5 Released For macOS-Inspired FreeBSD Desktop - Phoronix [23:08] kingoffrance only criminals want actual encryption, everyone else you just need the ineffective version [23:09] kingoffrance its a lesson in word games how law enforcement views privacy -- only criminals need "security" [23:09] kingoffrance everyone else, you dont need that [23:10] kingoffrance its a lesson in inventing straw man "only hardened encryption actually secures anything" [23:10] psydroid it's getting harder to ignore individual nicks because of this bridge, maybe I should just ignore it entirely [23:12] kingoffrance the FBI has not identified a single legitimate, non-criminal user of Phantom Secure. The FBI provided opportunities for any user of a Phantom Secure device to come forward and retrieve their data. No request was made by any Phantom Secure user to the FBI. [23:13] kingoffrance :/ this is how you prove a negative [23:14] kingoffrance if there were any non-criminals, they wouldve contacted us and said hi [23:15] kingoffrance "encrypted communications devices exist to eschew law enforcement" [23:15] techrights-bot #Security Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152224 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [23:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [23:16] techrights-bot #OpenHardware : #Raspberry Pi and Arduino http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152223 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [23:16] kingoffrance anatomy of a smear campaign :) [23:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware: Raspberry Pi and Arduino | Tux Machines [23:16] techrights-bot Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152222 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [23:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [23:16] techrights-bot Videos/Shows: XFCE, Vim/Emacs, and Arch Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152220 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [23:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Videos/Shows: XFCE, Vim/Emacs, and Arch Linux | Tux Machines [23:16] techrights-bot Games: Lugaru, Warp Factory, Little Nightmares, Veloren, SkateBIRD, OpenMW, MangoHud http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152219 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [23:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Lugaru, Warp Factory, Little Nightmares, Veloren, SkateBIRD, OpenMW, MangoHud | Tux Machines [23:17] kingoffrance i guess the moral is for the fbi, there is no innocent until proven guilty [23:17] kingoffrance you have to prove to them you arent a bad guy by giving them all your data like good people do [23:17] kingoffrance lol [23:18] techrights-bot #XFS To Enjoy Big Scalability Boost With Linux 5.14 - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=XFS-CIL-Log-Scalability-5.14 #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/12/#latest [23:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-XFS To Enjoy Big Scalability Boost With Linux 5.14 - Phoronix [23:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [23:19] techrights-bot Transparent #Hugepages Are Coming To #RISCV On Linux - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=THP-Hugepages-For-RISC-V #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux [23:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Transparent Hugepages Are Coming To RISC-V On Linux - Phoronix [23:19] psydroid state trojans good, privacy-minded individuals bad [23:20] MinceR 13 001409 < kingoffrance> if there were any non-criminals, they wouldve contacted us and said hi [23:20] MinceR and if they did, the FBI would have proved them to be criminals anyway [23:20] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.33 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 87.18 swarm size (avg): 243.89 [23:21] techrights-bot #Plasma 5.23 Picking Up Latest Breeze Evolution Style, SDDM Lands http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152212#comment-29939 #kde [23:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This week in KDE: Plasma 5.22 arrives but I bet youll want 5.23 once I show you this | Tux Machines [23:22] techrights-bot Profile Guided Optimizations (PGO) Likely Coming To Linux 5.14 For #Clang - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Clang-PGO-For-Linux-Next #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/12/#latest [23:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Profile Guided Optimizations (PGO) Likely Coming To Linux 5.14 For Clang - Phoronix [23:23] techrights-bot #F2FS Picking Up "compress_cache" Feature With Linux 5.14 - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=F2FS-compress_cache #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/12/#latest [23:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-F2FS Picking Up "compress_cache" Feature With Linux 5.14 - Phoronix [23:25] kingoffrance i guess its funny i see a lot of "bro" in the doc lol [23:25] kingoffrance theres so criminals, they are spirit brothers! [23:25] kingoffrance *no [23:27] techrights-bot Yet Another Week In Tok https://blog.blackquill.cc/yet-another-week-in-tok #kde [23:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.blackquill.cc | Yet Another Week In Tok Janet's Shenanigans [23:28] techrights-bot KDE Ships Frameworks 5.83.0 - KDE Community https://kde.org/announcements/frameworks/5/5.83.0/ #kde | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/12/#latest [23:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kde.org | KDE Ships Frameworks 5.83.0 - KDE Community [23:28] techrights-bot "In just six days, on Friday next week, #KDE #Akademy will start, bringing us eight days packed with presentations, workshops, meetings, BoFs and hanging out with friends." https://www.volkerkrause.eu/2021/06/12/kde-akademy-2021.html [23:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.volkerkrause.eu | KDE Akademy 2021 [23:31] techrights-bot Future of C#innamon in #Debian | There and back again https://www.preining.info/blog/2021/06/future-of-cinnamon-in-debian/ #preining | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/12/#latest [23:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.preining.info | Future of Cinnamon in Debian | There and back again [23:31] techrights-bot fabre.debian.net has moved to Debian.net Team Infrastructure - https://kenhys.hatenablog.jp/entry/2021/06/12/210011 #kenhys | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/12/#latest [23:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kenhys.hatenablog.jp | fabre.debian.net has moved to Debian.net Team Infrastructure - [23:33] kingoffrance minor detail, but not reassuring An IP address is a unique address through which a computer connects to the Internet. [23:33] kingoffrance i remember anti-nat ppl would say that was breaking 2-way connectivity, internet was never meant for that. ipv6 is double-edged sword i suppose [23:34] techrights-bot Top 10 Free Proxy Servers for Anonymous Web Browsing | FOSS Linux https://www.fosslinux.com/46685/free-proxy-servers-anonymous-web-browsing.htm #fosslinux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/12/#latest [23:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslinux.com | Top 10 Free Proxy Servers for Anonymous Web Browsing | FOSS Linux [23:35] kingoffrance i fear the judge just eat up everything the law tells them [23:35] techrights-bot How I teach #Python on the #RaspberryPi 400 at the public library | https://opensource.com/article/21/6/teach-python-raspberry-pi #FreeSW #programming | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/12/#latest [23:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How I teach Python on the Raspberry Pi 400 at the public library | Opensource.com [23:36] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/covid-vaccine-spike-protein-travels-from-injection-site-organ-damage/ how legit is this? [23:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-childrenshealthdefense.org | We Made a Big Mistake COVID Vaccine Spike Protein Travels From Injection Site, Can Cause Organ Damage Children's Health Defense [23:36] kingoffrance 127.0.0.1 is totally unique, im the only one who uses it [23:36] kingoffrance when you see that, you know its me [23:37] MinceR you're all individuals! [23:38] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] feels like it's not [23:38] MinceR https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children%27s_Health_Defense [23:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Children's Health Defense - Wikipedia [23:38] MinceR "Children's Health Defense is an American activist group mainly known for anti-vaccine activities and has been identified as one of the main sources of misinformation on vaccines." [23:39] MinceR also, afaik the spike protein evolved in such a way that it embeds itself into lipid bilayers [23:39] techrights-bot #Kernel : Flash-Friendly File-System (F2FS), Profile Guided Optimizations (PGO), RISC-V, XFS and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152225 #Linux #TuxMachines [23:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: Flash-Friendly File-System (F2FS), Profile Guided Optimizations (PGO), RISC-V, XFS and More | Tux Machines [23:39] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: Yea, I wonder where the person who gave me this found this bullshit. [23:39] techrights-bot #KDE : Akademy, KDE Frameworks 5.83.0, Tok, and QML http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152226 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [23:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE: Akademy, KDE Frameworks 5.83.0, Tok, and QML | Tux Machines [23:39] MinceR so it would have to take the host human cell with itself to go far from the injection site [23:39] techrights-bot #Debian : FOSSHOST, Cinnamon, and BBB Packaging Team http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152227 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [23:39] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] it was a translation into Russian, good thing I tried to look into this [23:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian: FOSSHOST, Cinnamon, and BBB Packaging Team | Tux Machines [23:40] techrights-bot #Python #Programming http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152228 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [23:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Python Programming | Tux Machines [23:40] MinceR at least in the case of 3rd generation vaccines [23:40] MinceR (mRNA and viral vector) [23:45] techrights-bot #openSUSE Tumbleweed Review of the week 2021/23 - Dominique a.k.a. DimStar (Dim*) http://dominique.leuenberger.net/blog/2021/06/opensuse-tumbleweed-review-of-the-week-2021-23/ #dominiqueLeuenberger #suse #gnu #linux [23:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dominique.leuenberger.net | openSUSE Tumbleweed Review of the week 2021/23 Dominique a.k.a. DimStar (Dim*) [23:48] kingoffrance i think law views encrpytion as munitions, so the intent is normal person doesnt need an rpg, a simple hand gun is what normal people use, etc. [23:48] MinceR might be specific to uhmerica [23:49] kingoffrance there was ancient (apocryphal? real?) story about des or something being printed on a book, then its not a computer code its a speech [23:49] kingoffrance then it could be "exported" ? [23:49] kingoffrance point being, thats how they get a loophole; its not speech, its armament [23:49] kingoffrance therefore, arms and weaponry are not absolute rights [23:50] schestowitz [22:02] I suspect that Roy does too after the router issues. [23:50] kingoffrance (neither is speech, but i think that is what their intent is) [23:50] schestowitz I am not sure it is a router issue [23:50] kingoffrance so thats how they came up with "hardened" etc. [23:50] kingoffrance its a weapon, not a speech [23:51] techrights-bot #RapidDisk 7.2.0 now available https://koutoupis.com/2021/06/12/rapiddisk-7-2-0-now-available/ #deletegithub #microsoft http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github [23:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-koutoupis.com | RapidDisk 7.2.0 now available Random [Tech] Stuff [23:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Delete Github - Techrights [23:52] kingoffrance if you can reclassify speech into "munitions" and "non-munitions" then you get to ban all the rpg-caliber speech [23:52] schestowitz immibis: a new low if they indeed began censoring people for just talking about their censorship [23:52] schestowitz that would be a colossal self-nuke [23:52] MinceR 13 004904 < kingoffrance> there was ancient (apocryphal? real?) story about des or something being printed on a book, then its not a computer code its a speech [23:52] MinceR isn't that how PGP was exported? [23:52] kingoffrance im too young but yeah [23:52] kingoffrance i tihnk djb was involved [23:53] kingoffrance https://cr.yp.to/export.html [23:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cr.yp.to | Bernstein v. United States [23:53] techrights-bot very low standard because the EPO no longer does proper assessment of patent applications, so many fake EPs are granted https://www.pharmtech.com/view/immodulon-gains-allowability-of-claims-for-key-european-patent-application [23:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pharmtech.com | Immodulon Gains Allowability of Claims for Key European Patent Application [23:53] kingoffrance There are many exceptions to the regulations. The most famous exception is the printed-materials exception, applied on a case-by-case basis by the government before 1996 and made official in 1996: printed books and other printed materials are not subject to the regulations. [23:54] kingoffrance im not sure if thats exactly what his case was though [23:54] kingoffrance although may tangentially be included [23:56] techrights-bot "patent relates to completing secure transactions using a mobile device and a secure computer" sounds like one of those #fakepatents and maybe #swpats https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/6/8/ip-edge-entity-xylon-licensing-patent-challenged [23:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | IP Edge entity, Xylon Licensing, patent challenged Unified Patents [23:57] BaronVladimirHar Ah, the Ninth Circus Court of Appeals. [23:58] kingoffrance maybe the moral is how explosive speech is or not, depends on the medium; the medium is seemingly the message for this type of stuff [23:58] kingoffrance theres speech, then there is how it is wrapped [23:58] techrights-bot #Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152230 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [23:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [23:58] techrights-bot #Web Browsing: Proxy Servers for Anonymous Web Browsing, Tor, Mozilla, Surveillance, and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152229 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [23:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Web Browsing: Proxy Servers for Anonymous Web Browsing, Tor, Mozilla, Surveillance, and More | Tux Machines