●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, September 12, 2021 ●● ● Sep 12 [00:21] *mib_6uy99i (~4f8f6ffc@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [00:21] *m___ (~Adium@axe8sdwa9qgju.irc) has joined #techrights [00:33] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:33] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:34] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [00:34] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [00:35] XRevan86 https://dylanvanassche.be/blog/2021/pinephone-modem-myths/ [00:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dylanvanassche.be | Dylan Van Assche | PinePhone modem myths [00:50] DaemonFC Sales Taxes in Illinois have gone up on average again, due to local hikes. [00:50] DaemonFC One of the high schools in Gurnee was sending me pleas to vote for a tax hike, even though I didn't live in their school district. [00:51] DaemonFC I wonder how much the printing and postage to send requests for tax hikes to people who can't even decide on the tax hike came out to. ● Sep 12 [01:08] DaemonFC https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/sheer-chaos-suburban-high-school-dealing-with-student-fights-packed-classrooms-bus-shortage [01:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fox32chicago.com | Sheer chaos: Suburban high school dealing with student fights, packed classrooms, bus shortage [01:08] DaemonFC "Just recently the board approved for us to higher a private security force, and so we trained them this week and then on Monday we should be fully staffed with our security force, which we think is going to really help to quell some of the anxiety in the building," said Dr. Johnnie Thomas, District 227 Superintendent. [01:09] DaemonFC Nice, the school superintendent spelled "hire" wrong. [01:09] DaemonFC The school to prison pipeline is sort of up and running again though., [01:09] DaemonFC So that's nice. [01:12] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 25.93 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 115.90 swarm size (avg): 261.39 [01:21] *m___ has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [01:21] techrights-news More #linux #bloat for Pentagon companies https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Rust-Linux-Kernel-Linaro-2021 #rustlang #deletegithub [01:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Latest Progress On Rust For The Linux Kernel - Phoronix [01:22] techrights-news "You get what you pay for. Obviously these employees cant get a better paying job. So sad - #IBM used to only hire the best and brightest." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cLF8ipd#replies [01:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | IBM is hiring, please apply... - post regarding IBM layoffs [01:22] techrights-news "I bet #IBM will somehow lose even in this race to the bottom. Ever downward!" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cLF8ipd#replies [01:23] techrights-news "Since the vaccine has not yet been approved for children because it hasn't been tested for them we need to protect them by requiring masks in school." https://stallman.org/archives/2021-jul-oct.html#11_September_2021_%28Children_infected_with_Covid-19%29 [01:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman [01:23] techrights-news "I argue that they are not entitled to the term "libertarians", because their principal goal is to eliminate taxes and have a laissez-faire, laissez mourir economy. The right term for them is "antisocialist"." https://stallman.org/archives/2021-jul-oct.html#11_September_2021_%28Freedom_to_have_an_abortion%29 [01:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman [01:23] techrights-news "Actually there are a lot of great people still working for IBM. It's just that almost none of them are anything higher than a director." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cMIY6A6#replies #ibm [01:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | IBM accused of stealing trade secrets from Chinese jo--t venture - post regarding IBM layoffs [01:24] techrights-news Best #MicrosoftOffice Alternatives For GNU/Linux : Free Linux Office Suite http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155529 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best MS Office Alternatives For Linux : Free Linux Office Suite | Tux Machines [01:26] *mib_6uy99i has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [01:29] techrights-news #GNOME 41 Has Finally Arrived: A Look at Whats Changed http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155432#comment-30936 #gnu #linux [01:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME 41 Release Candidate Is Out with Last Minute Bug Fixes and Improvements | Tux Machines [01:29] techrights-news #KDE Frameworks 5.86.0 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155521#comment-30937 [01:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Frameworks 5.86 Improves Plasma Wayland for NVIDIA GPUs, Adds over 200 Changes | Tux Machines [01:37] techrights-news #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155530 #Linux #TuxMachines [01:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [01:37] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155531 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [01:38] techrights-news GNU #Bison 3.8.1 released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155532 #GNU #freesw #TuxMachines [01:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Bison 3.8.1 released | Tux Machines [01:39] techrights-news #Steam Top 50 #Games : 72% Work on Linux in Sept. 2021 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155533 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Steam Top 50 Games: 72% Work on Linux in Sept. 2021 | Tux Machines [01:40] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:43] techrights-news Windows Supports My Hardware, Linux Does NOT! - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=zZlbg5JBaEE #video [01:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Windows Supports My Hardware, Linux Does NOT! - Invidious [01:44] techrights-news #LatteDock v0.10.2 | Bug Fix Release http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155534 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #KDE [01:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Latte Dock v0.10.2 | Bug Fix Release | Tux Machines [01:46] techrights-news Introducing the #BoilingSteam Wiki https://boilingsteam.com/introducing-the-boiling-steam-wiki/ #games #gnu #linux [01:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | Introducing the Boiling Steam Wiki - Boiling Steam [01:47] techrights-news "The vast majority of hunter-gatherers disappeared a long time ago, but a few groups remain in isolated sections of Africa, Australia, the Amazon rainforest and the Arctic." https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2021/09/why-do-we-work-so-dam-much.html [01:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.irvingwb.com | Irving Wladawsky-Berger: Why Do We Work So Damn Much? [01:47] techrights-news "Jon (scsijon in the Puppy Forum) is helping me to get Chrome and Chromium working non-root. This has resulted in me making a discovery yesterday, about the Xarchive archiver and extraction GUI tool." https://bkhome.org/news/202109/xarchive-now-extracts-debian-control-folder.html [01:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | Xarchive now extracts DEBIAN control folder [01:49] techrights-news #Apple still chooses not to support the industry-standard lossless audio format, even though they support it. https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/09/11/apple-still-chooses-not-to-support-the-industry-standard-lossless-audio-format-even-though-they-support-it/ [01:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Apple still chooses not to support the industry-standard lossless audio format, even though they support it. BaronHK's Rants [01:52] techrights-news Does malware become news only the moment you can throw the word "Linux" into a headline, irrespective of what the underlying issue and how a machine is taken over by the first place? https://www.bankinfosecurity.com/pysa-ransomware-gang-targets-linux-a-17514 [01:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Pysa Ransomware Gang Debuts Linux Support - BankInfoSecurity [01:54] techrights-news The #LinuxGamer Playing guitar for you: "Fog" - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=9zspSxfn2dg #video #invidious [01:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Playing guitar for you: "Fog" - Invidious [01:56] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Quit: Leaving) [01:56] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@8e5g7d3vss2gq.irc) has joined #techrights [01:56] techrights-news This YouTuber made his own battery spot welder from an old microwave using Arduino | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/09/11/this-youtuber-made-his-own-spot-welder-with-arduino/ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/09/12/#latest [01:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | This YouTuber made his own battery spot welder from an old microwave using Arduino | Arduino Blog [01:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [01:57] techrights-news Heres Why #Firefox is Seeing a Continuous Decline for Last 12 Years http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155535 [01:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Heres Why Firefox is Seeing a Continuous Decline for Last 12 Years | Tux Machines [01:58] techrights-news Start #Gaming On #GNU #Linux With This One Command - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=sOch-qZMLq0 #video #invidious [01:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Start Gaming On Linux With This One Command - Invidious ● Sep 12 [02:01] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [02:02] techrights-news " #OpenBoxes is a management system designed to manage inventory and keep you on track with all the setting on it. It happens to be one of my top recommendations for the list of free and open-source Inventory and Warehouse Management" https://medevel.com/openboxes [02:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | OpenBoxes: Open Source Project For Inventory management [02:07] techrights-news Shiny new things in #Thunar thanks to GSoC 2021 https://alexxcons.github.io/2021/09/11/shiny-new-things-in-thunar.html #deletegithub #ProprietarySoftware http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github [02:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-alexxcons.github.io | Shiny new things in Thunar thanks to GSoC 2021 [02:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Delete Github - Techrights [02:10] techrights-news #KeePass 2.49 Released! #HowTo Install in Ubuntu 20.04 / 18.04 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155536 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [02:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KeePass 2.49 Released! How to Install in Ubuntu 20.04 / 18.04 | Tux Machines [02:11] techrights-news Tag filtering, better navigation and lots of little UI tweaks #Kalendar devlog 14 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155537 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [02:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tag filtering, better navigation and lots of little UI tweaks Kalendar devlog 14 | Tux Machines [02:11] techrights-news "A couple of cute mini robots have graced the blog over the last couple of weeks. One mastered dropping a straw in a glass, and the other did a brilliant Mars rover impression." https://www.raspberrypi.org/weekly/mini-robots-taking-over/ [02:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.raspberrypi.org | Raspberry Pi Weekly Issue #370 - Mini robots taking over [02:12] techrights-news Another Batch Of #RadeonSI Optimizations Land In Mesa 21.3 - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=RadeonSI-More-For-Mesa-21.3 #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/09/12/#latest [02:12] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 17.53 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 89.76 swarm size (avg): 261.37 [02:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Another Batch Of RadeonSI Optimizations Land In Mesa 21.3 - Phoronix [02:13] techrights-news #CoreCtrl 1.2 Brings Support For More Sensors, Voltage Offsets - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=CoreCtl-1.2-Released #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/09/12/#latest [02:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-CoreCtrl 1.2 Brings Support For More Sensors, Voltage Offsets - Phoronix [02:13] techrights-news Alder Lake Support Added To Intel's TCC Driver In Linux 5.15 - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Alder-Lake-TCC-Linux-5.15 #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux [02:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Alder Lake Support Added To Intel's TCC Driver In Linux 5.15 - Phoronix [02:14] *wallacer has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:14] techrights-news [Book] #RedHat Enterprise Linux 8Administration Pablo Iranzo Gmezs blog https://iranzo.io/blog/2021/09/11/rhel8-administration/ #iranzo #gnu #linux #ibm [02:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iranzo.io | [Book] Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8Administration Pablo Iranzo Gmez's blog [02:14] techrights-news Play with model trains in #OpenTTD | https://opensource.com/article/21/9/model-trains-openttd #FreeSW #RedHat #GNU #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2 [02:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Play with model trains in OpenTTD | Opensource.com [02:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://schestowitz.com/2 ) [02:15] techrights-news #Facebook Is Censoring People For Mentioning #freesw Social Network #Mastodon https://changelog.complete.org/archives/10285-facebook-censored-me-for-mentioning-open-source-social-network-mastodon #censorship [02:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-changelog.complete.org | Facebook Is Censoring People For Mentioning Open-Source Social Network Mastodon | The Changelog [02:30] techrights-news Links 11/9/2021: KeePass 2.49, Bison 3.8.1, Latte Dock 0.10.2 http://techrights.org/2021/09/11/latte-dock-0-10-2/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/11/latte-dock-0-10-2/ [02:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 11/9/2021: KeePass 2.49, Bison 3.8.1, Latte Dock 0.10.2 | Techrights [02:32] techrights-news Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155538 [02:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [02:32] techrights-news #FreeSoftware : Facebook Censoring Mastodon, OpenTTD Introduced, and OpenBoxes Explained http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155539 [02:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free Software: Facebook Censoring Mastodon, OpenTTD Introduced, and OpenBoxes Explained | Tux Machines [02:33] techrights-news Open Hardware/Modding: Robots, Faceplates, and Arduino http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155540 [02:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware/Modding: Robots, Faceplates, and Arduino | Tux Machines [02:33] techrights-news #IBM / #RedHat Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155541 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [02:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines [02:33] techrights-news Linux/Kernel: Intel, Rust, and AMD http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155542 [02:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux/Kernel: Intel, Rust, and AMD | Tux Machines [02:34] techrights-news Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155543 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [02:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [02:37] techrights-news *** *** Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social IRC logs ready. 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[02:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, September 11, 2021 [02:40] DaemonFC https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/09/12/apple-declares-victory-in-the-epic-vs-apple-unfair-competition-lawsuit-and-then-appeals-the-ruling/ [02:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Apple declares victory in the Epic vs. Apple unfair competition lawsuit and then appeals the ruling. BaronHK's Rants [02:41] techrights-news *** *** Yesterday's bulletin ready. http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-09-11.txt [02:42] techrights-news "a pentium 150 was sufficient for software-rendering on CPU only(!), quake1 at 512x384" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-110921.html#tSep%2011%2020:42:58 [02:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, September 11, 2021 [02:42] techrights-news Sites about #patents that reject/refuse/hang up on inventors because they front for lawyers (litigation), not science http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-110921.html#tSep%2011%2022:12:14 [02:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, September 11, 2021 [02:45] techrights-news "Ah so, that's where IBM gets its cloud strategy from." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cMIY6A6#replies [02:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | IBM accused of stealing trade secrets from Chinese jo--t venture - post regarding IBM layoffs [02:45] DaemonFC schestowitz, The ads in Youtube have become so unacceptable that I won't even watch Youtube in their official app. [02:45] DaemonFC NewPipe doesn't always work, but you can view videos with the ads stripped out in Fennec F-Droid. [02:46] DaemonFC Google should be sued over this. They demonetize people's channels, stuff them full of Google's ads that take up more time than the video maybe, and then keep all of the money. [02:46] XRevan86 DaemonFC: Install NewPipe from their official repository for F-Droid. [02:46] DaemonFC Oh, I do. [02:46] techrights-news Moaning about #ibm paying below standards. Update 2 hours ago. https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cLF8ipd#replies [02:46] XRevan86 https://newpipe.net/FAQ/tutorials/install-add-fdroid-repo/ that [02:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | IBM is hiring, please apply... - post regarding IBM layoffs [02:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-newpipe.net | Add the NewPipe repository to F-Droid [02:47] DaemonFC People should just stop giving new "content" to Youtube. [02:47] DaemonFC Take it to another site where they can earn a bit of money and not snow their users under an avalanche of ads that don't even benefit them. [02:48] techrights-news Retail Services at #IBM fired? https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cNlSuL5 [02:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | I just heard that Hank Mardukas was RAd last week - post regarding IBM layoffs [02:48] schestowitz DaemonFC: I agree [02:48] schestowitz this is why I wrote programs to change URLs [02:48] schestowitz I try never to link to Twitter or YouTube [02:49] schestowitz they don't work WITHOUT JS [02:49] schestowitz they put nasty ads [02:49] schestowitz among other reason [02:49] schestowitz *reasons [02:49] schestowitz we still need a site which does to shithub what nitter does to Twitter [02:49] schestowitz [02:47] Take it to another site where they can earn a bit of money and not snow their users under an avalanche of ads that don't even benefit them. [02:50] schestowitz those ads are mandatory and don't pay "creators" [02:50] schestowitz many left over this [02:50] schestowitz it's just Alphabet trying to squeeze money out of a (IIRC) loss leader [02:50] schestowitz they also shrank the share of ad revenue [02:50] schestowitz they mess around with visibility of channels and videos [02:51] schestowitz and the list goes on and on... I wrote about it as recently as last night [02:51] schestowitz in the form of article+video, days ago: http://techrights.org/2021/09/08/self-hosting-techrights/ [02:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights is Self-Hosted and Recent Events Show That Self-Hosting Pays Off | Techrights [02:51] schestowitz they banned "THE LINUX EXPERIMENT" [02:52] schestowitz and it's aid that Google hates GNU/Linux [02:52] schestowitz unlike ChromeOS/browser [02:52] schestowitz so they screw/hide/demonetise channels that do "LINUX" [02:54] DaemonFC https://ubuntu.com/blog/migrating-to-ubuntu-lts-six-facts-for-centos-users [02:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Migrating to Ubuntu LTS: six facts for CentOS users | Ubuntu [02:54] DaemonFC "This is why Ubuntu is by far the most popular Linux distribution, followed by a distant no.2 CentOS chosen by 11% of working professionals." [02:55] DaemonFC The Ubuntu "community" seemed to have turned into a ghost town last time I looked. [02:55] XRevan86 DaemonFC: This article is complete trash. [02:56] schestowitz-TR I saw that [02:56] schestowitz-TR well, canonical is a bit trash [02:56] XRevan86 And it's ubuntu.com [02:56] schestowitz-TR they also lost a lot of important workers lately [02:56] schestowitz-TR I could name them, but need to look up the names a little... [02:57] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: yes, fedora and ubuntu communities are dead [02:57] XRevan86 schestowitz: Is it time to shut down the bridge? The other side is used by no one. [02:57] schestowitz-TR to see where the gnu/linux community moved, check out arch, gentoo etc. [02:57] schestowitz-TR we're still around, there are many millions of us [02:57] schestowitz-TR but we are now "slaves" of IBM and Canonical [02:58] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: not yet? [02:58] schestowitz-TR maybe they read through it... [02:58] XRevan86 schestowitz: Who are they? [02:58] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I was thinking about Mozilla as a thrall of Google. [02:58] DaemonFC Antitrust insurance. [02:58] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: I don't know, but some people are in the channel/s [02:58] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: that's the purpose of it now [02:58] DaemonFC Google would never pay almost $650 million every few years just to be the default search on a browser that less than 4% use. [02:59] schestowitz-TR they openly shielded Google from USDOJ [02:59] schestowitz-TR defending a competitor that it also the palm which feeds them [02:59] schestowitz-TR I guess google is happy with mozilla leadership putting people off ● Sep 12 [03:00] DaemonFC This is all like a flashback to Microsoft bailing out Apple in 1997. [03:00] DaemonFC Apple put out trash computers that only a few people even used, and they almost filed for bankruptcy. [03:00] schestowitz-TR good analogy [03:00] XRevan86 schestowitz: I guess we should ask MinceR or rystalMath, but odds are it's abandoned. [03:00] DaemonFC No other search engine could or would pay Mozilla what Google does. [03:01] DaemonFC They'd be lucky to get $30-40 million per 5 years from Microsoft if they made Bing the default. [03:01] DaemonFC And that's assuming Firefox loses no more users than they have. [03:01] DaemonFC So the development collapses entirely without Google. [03:02] DaemonFC Microsoft just doesn't need them that badly, because they're inching closer to making it impossible or too frustrating to get away from Edge if you use Windows. [03:03] DaemonFC They have the home field advantage of abusing the OS to make people give up and use Edge, and there they don't have to pay themselves anything to be the search engine. [03:03] DaemonFC Vivaldi never replied to me when they complained of Microsoft doing this, and then I asked when they would stop using Microsoft's search engine. [03:04] DaemonFC If Microsoft is costing them users, it's also costing them marketshare that could be used to negotiate for more royalties. [03:04] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: if it's dead, then it's deada [03:04] schestowitz-TR I just don't know how to check [03:04] schestowitz-TR lightbringer can see it [03:05] schestowitz-TR last he reported to me, it was around 10 users [03:06] techrights-news I've just done more parallelisation in the video pipeline of #techrights which is mostly #ffmpeg with bash and #rsync [03:08] DaemonFC Being located in California, especially the bay area, is a luxury they couldn't afford. [03:09] DaemonFC They ditched the bay area office space, which they clutched onto and didn't want to let go for far longer than they should have kept it. [03:09] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, NPR actually published a good article the other day. [03:10] DaemonFC It was about the shockingly poor planning that Apple, Google, and Facebook did when building their campuses. [03:10] DaemonFC They poured all of this money into them and in 30 or 40 years, the area will probably literally be under a few feet of water. [03:11] DaemonFC Corporations don't even plan decades ahead into their own futures, yet they make all of the important decisions and control the government from behind the scenes, which is truly horrifying. [03:11] activelow scary [03:12] kingoffrance ^^^ good reason why "efficiency" is a chimera [03:12] activelow global economy relies on software which is ruined [03:12] kingoffrance theres always a time component: efficient for how long [03:12] techrights-ipfs-bot Gemini requests since start of month: 176224 total Total pages: 37358 Active: active (running) since Tue 2021-06-08 16:18:39 BST; 3 months 4 days ago [03:12] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS local node stats (past 23 hours) calculated. TotalIn: 1.8 GB TotalOut: 404 MB [03:12] techrights-ipfs-bot New daily bulletin just generated. It is about to be added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with CID [03:12] activelow techically bancrupt, unmaintainable long-term [03:13] activelow technically [03:13] MinceR there are 8 nicks on the other side of the bridge, including ChanServ, tr-bridge and myself [03:13] DaemonFC Windows is "maintainable" in the sense that if we want all progress to stop, Microsoft can continue to rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic. [03:13] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 16.31 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 179.13 swarm size (avg): 261.35 [03:14] DaemonFC But even updates that don't do anything important always seem to break something, usually seemingly unrelated. [03:14] activelow often minor details, which sums up to total cost, and time wasted [03:14] MinceR in addition to that, there are 2 more users who seem to be also present on this side of the bridge, though i can't tell for sure [03:14] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I was delighted with LAME back in the 90s, and with MP3 in general. [03:15] activelow argument is this: it will be impossible to reconstruct hardware and software from scratch, with available documentation, schematics and sources [03:15] DaemonFC Without what it did, there would have been no digital music at all. [03:15] MinceR which leaves 3 nicks belonging to users who appear to be using the channel only from the freenode side [03:15] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: we have hardly advanced since then (90s) [03:15] schestowitz-TR me in 90s: winamp [03:15] schestowitz-TR me at this very moment: audacious [03:15] MinceR it really whips the llama's ass! [03:15] schestowitz-TR partly developed by Ariadne BTW [03:15] schestowitz-TR and still using mp3 files, with patents expired [03:16] DaemonFC It was impossible to store too many WAVE files on a PC at that point and is still a burden today. FLAC wouldn't even exist to cut that space requirement in half for a few more years. [03:16] DaemonFC But NPR says no patents mean MP3 is bad. [03:16] XRevan86 MinceR: Have they shown any kind of activity? Who are they? [03:16] DaemonFC You wouldn't go against that logic? [03:17] DaemonFC It's patented so you can't use it. There's no patents so you can't use it! [03:17] XRevan86 Opus: no patents, very good. [03:17] techrights-ipfs-bot QmUPLCS39mA6XaZmdzwh1WbF8ry8hiVAzuaf4P9A1AmKbd [03:17] DaemonFC There are Opus patents. [03:17] DaemonFC Microsoft even has some. [03:17] XRevan86 [03:18] MinceR XRevan86: i don't know who they are and i don't see any activity from them since my vps was rebooted [03:18] DaemonFC Technically, you could avoid Microsoft's patents by not implementing the SILK layer at all, but then you'd violate Xiph.org's, Cisco's, and Mozilla's. [03:19] DaemonFC The patent license says you only get a license if your implementation conforms to the IETF standard. [03:19] DaemonFC The IETF standard does not make SILK optional. [03:19] techrights-news No, what actually happened was, two barely-significant #patent offices got successfully rick-rolled by a British provocateur http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/09/08/robots-are-taking-over-the-patent-world-ai-systems-or-devices-can-be-inventors-under-the-australian-patents-act/ [03:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Robots are taking over the patent world AI systems or devices can be "inventors" under the Australian Patents Act - Kluwer Patent Blog [03:20] MinceR also, what i've written doesn't take into account people who weren't present at the time, only earlier [03:20] techrights-news FOSS Patents: No, the Epic v. #Apple injunction absolutely positively DOESN'T allow developers to incorporate 'buttons' for alternative IN-APP payment mechanisms http://www.fosspatents.com/2021/09/no-epic-v-apple-injunction-absolutely.html #fosspatents [03:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: No, the Epic v. Apple injunction absolutely positively DOESN'T allow developers to incorporate 'buttons' for alternative IN-APP payment mechanisms [03:20] DaemonFC CELT isn't bad for voice, in fact, CELT was originally going to be _the_ general purpose audio codec to replace Speex and Vorbis. [03:20] MinceR patent licenses that constrain how you're allowed to change the code are nasty [03:21] DaemonFC Voice in CELT at 32 kbps sounds better, to me, than voice in MP3 at 128 kbps. [03:21] techrights-news Latest #Ubuntu 21.10 blows the wind out of Windows 10 / 11 in certain performance tests http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155544 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [03:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Latest Ubuntu 21.10 blows the wind out of Windows 10 / 11 in certain performance tests | Tux Machines [03:22] techrights-news #watchtroll says, "Report: Almost One-Third of IPR Proceedings are Settled" and that just means that there are so many #fakepatents granted by #uspto that with #ptab all you need to do is show willingness to challenge them [03:24] techrights-news Many false headlines falsely asserted that it is now possible to get #patents for bots; but only in two rather small markets, and that too is subjected to appeals or further challenges https://www.natlawreview.com/article/update-artificial-intelligence-court-rules-ai-cannot-qualify-inventor [03:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.natlawreview.com | 4th Cir.: AI Machine Cannot Qualify as Inventor Under Patent Act [03:25] XRevan86 MinceR: Still sounds like the bridge is of use to no one. [03:25] DaemonFC I really wish people would stop using MP3 for speech. [03:25] schestowitz freenode is of use to almost nobody [03:26] DaemonFC It takes up a TON of space for an audio book. [03:26] schestowitz XRevan86: unless the "millions" come [03:26] schestowitz to get "coins" from the "king" [03:27] DaemonFC https://www.marion.k12.in.us/new-quarantine-exemptions-place-starting-97 [03:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.marion.k12.in.us | New quarantine exemptions in place starting 9/7 | Marion School District [03:27] DaemonFC You can only kind of guess at whether you were a close contact with a person infected with COVID. [03:28] DaemonFC When 150,000-200,000 people per day in the country are confirmed cases, I mean. [03:28] DaemonFC When the US military said they wouldn't allow anyone to sign up if they had previously had COVID, last year, I laughed and said "Good luck with that. At this rate, very few people won't have had it in about 3 or 4 years.". [03:29] MinceR XRevan86: could be, but it's not that easy to find out definitively [03:29] MinceR i can't just look at the nicklist and say "oh, these people don't matter" [03:30] schestowitz in LC there are 26 users [03:30] schestowitz some of them are also here already [03:30] DaemonFC That's just the facts when you're dealing with a nasty little virus that's as infectious as all get out, and 25% of the population won't get their vaccine and flood the hospitals and cause heart attack, stroke, gunshot, and car crash victims to die instead. [03:30] schestowitz anyway, those are "foreign" networks [03:31] DaemonFC Howard Stern said exactly the same thing I said to mom and mom wasn't happy when I said it, then I read that Stern said it on his radio show a few hours later. [03:31] schestowitz seems safe to see we've consolidated here and in LC sometimes a week goes by without activity [03:31] DaemonFC I said, "Maybe the hospitals should turn away all the unvaccinated COVID cases and take in the people who are there because shit happens. [03:31] DaemonFC Seems fair to me. [03:31] schestowitz some people cannot be vaccinated [03:31] schestowitz for health reasons [03:32] DaemonFC Howard Stern is finished with these people. Howard Stern says he wants to go out and do things again. [03:32] DaemonFC I agree! [03:32] schestowitz it interferes with existing issues [03:32] DaemonFC He's had a lot of very good observations over the years. [03:32] DaemonFC Including "Windows 95 is crap and I use OS/2.". [03:32] DaemonFC I mean, technically speaking, for 1995, he was right. [03:32] schestowitz DaemonFC: thing like what,SHOPPING? [03:32] DaemonFC But the majority went with what came on the computer and so Windows 95 software was all there really was. [03:32] schestowitz He can comfortably work without getting close to people [03:33] DaemonFC Yeah, he's in a studio room all day on a talk radio show. [03:33] XRevan86 schestowitz: Question is, what justifies the bridge's existence now? What's it for? [03:33] DaemonFC I never really understood how there were highly paid talk radio people. [03:33] techrights-news "In fact, one of Richard Stallmans complaints about the iPhone is that it does pretty much every nasty thing to attack the user that Android does, but it also goes much further and prevents the user from installing Free and Open Source Software." https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/09/12/apple-declares-victory-in-the-epic-vs-apple-unfair-competition-lawsuit-and-then-appeals-the-ruling/ [03:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Apple declares victory in the Epic vs. Apple unfair competition lawsuit and then appeals the ruling. BaronHK's Rants [03:34] *job (~job@dpbvb2gcw6xvw.irc) has joined #techrights [03:34] techrights-news This Week in Linux 167: NVIDIA for Wayland, Steam Update, Red Hat, PS4 Emulator, #OpenShot https://tuxdigital.com/2021/09/thisweekinlinux-167/ #gnu #linux [03:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-167: NVIDIA for Wayland, Steam Update, Red Hat, PS4 Emulator, OpenShot | This Week in Linux - TuxDigital [03:35] schestowitz XRevan86: I reckon that network might shut down in a matter of months [03:35] schestowitz so the bot can go down with it [03:35] DaemonFC schestowitz, Mandy uses a lot of apps from F-Droid on his tablet. [03:36] schestowitz think of it like sitting next to a patient in a terminal conditionb [03:36] schestowitz it won't help survival [03:36] schestowitz but you stay there [03:36] DaemonFC He doesn't really get the idea of FOSS, but he uses them because the proprietary alternative is such a pain in the ass. [03:36] DaemonFC He likes watching Youtube but he doesn't like their ads. [03:36] schestowitz DaemonFC: tablets are less malicious than phones [03:36] DaemonFC And he wants to download some of the videos for later where he might not have data. [03:36] XRevan86 schestowitz: It might as well run indefinitely just as a personal Andrew Lee's community. [03:36] schestowitz some of them cannot report location [03:37] schestowitz XRevan86: it's expensive for that... [03:37] schestowitz and PIA is going downhill [03:37] schestowitz he might declare corporate and personal bankruptcy soon [03:37] DaemonFC PIA isn't going downhill. [03:37] XRevan86 schestowitz: As long as he can find a volunteer to maintain the IRC servers [03:37] DaemonFC They're gone and all that's left is a smoking crater. [03:38] XRevan86 schestowitz: It's not that expensive. [03:38] schestowitz if there is actual activity in it [03:38] schestowitz from what I gathered, #linux and #freenode are active there [03:38] schestowitz and our bot [03:38] schestowitz I doubt much happens there so it serves little actual value [03:39] schestowitz at least lee helped fund kiwi irc, which is good tbh [03:39] schestowitz also gave 50k usd to fsf [03:39] schestowitz saved linux journal for a while [03:39] schestowitz among other things [03:39] XRevan86 True, and now it changed the lead developer. [03:39] schestowitz in order to promote pira [03:39] schestowitz *pia [03:40] schestowitz-TR funny typo [03:40] schestowitz-TR but not a freudian slip [03:40] schestowitz-TR many use pia for 'piracy' [03:41] schestowitz-TR to avoid detection and (legal) action [03:41] DaemonFC My phone just said "fully charged" and disconnected its data link to the computer. [03:41] schestowitz-TR does anyone here have experience with web ui's of git? [03:41] schestowitz-TR from admin side? [03:42] schestowitz-TR I want to expose our git repos to the world soon, does sourcehut support gemini:// ? [03:42] XRevan86 schestowitz: And then he had the arrogance to take over a network only to wipe it clean, impose restrictions and recondition it for the digital empire that he's trying to build. [03:43] schestowitz I thought Drew DeVault added gemini:// support to it [03:43] schestowitz it would be nice to host git from home [03:43] schestowitz not high bankdwidth anyway [03:43] schestowitz https://git.sr.ht/~adnano/go-gemini [03:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.sr.ht | ~adnano/go-gemini - sourcehut git [03:45] schestowitz gemini://fkfd.me is down [03:45] schestowitz https://git.sr.ht/~fkfd/gemini [03:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.sr.ht | ~fkfd/gemini - sourcehut git [03:45] XRevan86 and in-between all that to approve mini-takeovers messing around with individual channels, alienating as many people as possible. [03:45] *wallacer (~quassel@6bsu33ajs4zs4.irc) has joined #techrights [03:46] techrights-news #visurf , a web browser based on #NetSurf https://drewdevault.com/2021/09/11/visurf-announcement.html http://techrights.org/2021/06/23/netsurf-review/ [03:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-drewdevault.com | visurf, a web browser based on NetSurf [03:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | How to Install and Then Use NetSurf as a Web Browser for the User-Centric Web, Not GAFAMNet | Techrights [03:47] techrights-news "Disclaimer: I am the founder of a company which competes with GitHub." https://drewdevault.com/2021/07/04/Is-GitHub-a-derivative-work.html [03:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-drewdevault.com | Is GitHub a derivative work of GPL'd software? [03:48] DaemonFC schestowitz, I just like having the option of not having to pay over and over again to listen to the same exact songs. [03:48] DaemonFC I mean, a lot of the people who made those songs are dead or retired. [03:48] XRevan86 The transition has been completed for a month already, the bridge is useless, it's still up just because it's zero maintenance, it can run for the same amount of time as Joseon.kr: indefinitely. But should it? [03:48] DaemonFC Their CDs go for a buck at the thrift store. [03:48] techrights-news "I wrote the absolutely bare minimum remote helper. And since Gemini is a read-only protocol, `git push` will never work. This is just useful for publishing git repos on Gemini sites. The server side could easily be added to the Gemini servers that support CGI scripts." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2020/000572.html [03:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Basic git clone over gemini:// working [03:49] DaemonFC Apple Music sidesteps not only controlling the file and playing it however many times you want, but also the right of first sale. [03:49] DaemonFC Since there was no "sale", you have no rights. [03:49] schestowitz XRevan86: you want to turn it off, I can tell, so go ahead and follow the gut feeling [03:50] schestowitz does the bridge work as a replicator to other protocols other than jabber and matrix? [03:50] schestowitz because we might be able to reuse it better [03:50] DaemonFC It's just stupid. Most people listen to such a small collection, it can be stored on a cheap SD card, even in FLAC. [03:50] DaemonFC But certainly as MP3. [03:50] XRevan86 schestowitz: Yea, it can do all sorts of stuff. [03:51] DaemonFC As MP3, most people can store all the music they'll ever listen to on $10 worth of flash memory. [03:51] schestowitz XRevan86: I am checking whether to publish our git stuff over gemini:// atm [03:51] schestowitz instead of www because gitea, gogs, gitlab etc. are bloat [03:51] schestowitz and gitlab is not even free software [03:51] schestowitz it's the carrot-and-stick trap [03:51] DaemonFC Apple turns $10 worth of flash memory into $12.99 a month forever. [03:51] XRevan86 schestowitz: I'm just bothered by things that have no reason to exist and just pollute the participants list. [03:52] schestowitz XRevan86: is matrix partly centralised? [03:52] schestowitz because one upside of LC is the matrix bridge [03:52] DaemonFC But I agree with what a forum poster said several years ago. [03:52] DaemonFC Regarding the FLAC vs lossy debate. [03:53] schestowitz can we make our irc network accessible over the 'matrix network'? [03:53] schestowitz mind you, I am not sure how matrix works, only dabbled in it [03:53] DaemonFC It's all going to look so stupid in 10-20 years when you can have all the flash memory you want for a few bucks and people have all these MP3 files around because they wanted it to be small. [03:53] XRevan86 schestowitz: I've seen quite a bit of third-party Matrix servers, it looks like traction makes it worth to overcome the obstacles for more people. [03:53] XRevan86 schestowitz: But I'm not following it closely. [03:54] XRevan86 schestowitz: The best way to bridge into the Matrix would be through that Libera channel %). [03:55] schestowitz https://github.com/dhuseby/git-remote-gemini [03:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - dhuseby/git-remote-gemini: A Git remote helper to do basic cloning of repos from a Gemini server. [03:55] XRevan86 With no need to create a Matrix-only channel, they can use libera.chat as a Matrix server. [03:56] DaemonFC schestowitz, On second thought, not sure I can vote for the Libertarians, even as a protest. [03:56] DaemonFC They just posted that what Biden is doing is unacceptable, forcing the vaccine on people. [03:56] schestowitz XRevan86: then we have 2 middlemen [03:56] DaemonFC But if your employer or landlord demands it, they should be able to. [03:56] schestowitz is there like a matrix "company" like the one that banned DaemonFC? [03:56] schestowitz in which you can set up a room or channel or whatever they call it [03:56] DaemonFC I said, "What's next? If your employer only hires circumcised men or women who haven't had an abortion, or your landlord demands sex along with the rent, that's okay too?" [03:57] schestowitz and then bridge two-way with that? [03:57] DaemonFC They can make criminal demands because they're not the government? [03:57] XRevan86 schestowitz: #techrights:libera.chat looks like a Matrix room. [03:57] schestowitz this way we can offer "matrix" as an option, which won't require registering in fake-korea-irc.com [03:57] XRevan86 schestowitz: And then that can be bridged as just IRC. [03:58] DaemonFC I'm certainly not in favor of saying well the government can't foist unreasonable demands and assault on you, but your employer who pays $8 an hour or your landlord can. [03:58] schestowitz XRevan86: but does that mean the bridge would then feed LC? and pull from it (from IRC)? [03:59] DaemonFC The fact that they're of a position like that just leads credence to the people who say they're just anti-government cranks who don't mind America as an oligarchy other than that. [03:59] DaemonFC *lends ● Sep 12 [04:00] DaemonFC That's not freedom, that's being a slave to a different master. [04:00] XRevan86 https://matrix-org.github.io/matrix-appservice-irc/latest/bridged_networks.html [04:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-matrix-org.github.io | Bridged Networks - Matrix IRC Bridge [04:00] DaemonFC So much for the Libertarian Party. [04:00] schestowitz https://giters.com/clehner/git-remote-gemini [04:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-clehner/git-remote-gemini - Giters [04:01] XRevan86 schestowitz: The Libera room will be simultaneously IRC and Matrix, so yes [04:01] schestowitz XRevan86: can we request they add ours? [04:01] DaemonFC Oh god, now the post office is basically saying "Also, your mail might be late in Chicago because the nignogs are out killing the mailman after dark.". [04:01] DaemonFC "Sorry about that." [04:02] XRevan86 schestowitz: I don't think they'll care for a small server. [04:02] DaemonFC Mandy asked what the latest Metra UP-N was into Chicago. I said, "It would arrive at 12:32 AM in Ogilvie Station.". [04:02] DaemonFC He said "Oh god.". [04:02] schestowitz if they have that sort of attitude, we should not work with them :-D [04:02] DaemonFC I said, "Yeah, well, maybe if they let me open carry in Chicago I'd be in a train station that late.". [04:02] schestowitz they can also subject us to speech policing by threats of revoking access [04:03] schestowitz (also: they use Microsoft for this) [04:03] XRevan86 schestowitz: Also, if ye remember, I asked months ago about the possibility to host appservice-irc here, and Ariadne didn't like that idea as it's quite a bit of extra work. [04:03] schestowitz (never a goof sign) [04:03] schestowitz *good [04:03] schestowitz they use proprietary software for their sites [04:03] XRevan86 As it also needs a Matrix server (Synapse). [04:04] schestowitz what else does the mattermost software bridge with? [04:04] DaemonFC schestowitz, Speaking of which.... [04:04] DaemonFC Court on Monday. [04:04] XRevan86 schestowitz: matterbridge is not mattermost [04:04] schestowitz jabber I have experience with, e.g. openfire, but massive maintenance overhead like adding users [04:04] DaemonFC The white devil vs the economically disadvantaged victims of structural racism. [04:05] DaemonFC ding ding ding [04:05] techrights-news #Techrights Bulletin for Saturday, September 11, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [04:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives [04:05] techrights-news #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [04:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index [04:05] XRevan86 schestowitz: sshchat is maybe an interesting one. [04:05] DaemonFC I watched a black guy tell the judge I'm getting he was full of shit, in his own courtroom. [04:06] DaemonFC We all know how that would have ended for him if he was white. [04:06] DaemonFC Judge: Oh, I'm full of shit? 30 days in county. Next! [04:06] DaemonFC But of course, he's an economically disadvantaged victim of structural racism person of color. [04:06] DaemonFC So nothing happened. Court supervision on the traffic offense. [04:07] DaemonFC Zoom Court was very informative of how things actually play out in there. [04:07] DaemonFC All the white people showing up were in a suit or at least a nice pair of dockers and a button down shirt. [04:07] DaemonFC Ye, your honor, no your honor. [04:08] DaemonFC Thank you, your honor. (After they'd been fined!) [04:08] techrights-news ...based on my research so far, it's not (yet) possible to manage/view/access/present git repos over gemini protocol. It would be a TREMENDOUSLY USEFUL project for someone to undertake, but Gulag/GSoC (Google) would never help #geminiProtocol as it threatens #www #monopolies [04:08] DaemonFC Then there's the black people. Ass hanging out, smoking a cigarette, tells the judge he's full of shit. [04:08] schestowitz-TR leah: ping [04:08] schestowitz-TR did you have any luck presenting code from doxygen in gemini:// ? [04:09] schestowitz-TR and moreover updating gemtext files from git automatically? [04:09] XRevan86 schestowitz: For XMPP there's a double-puppeting bridge in development by cheogram.com [04:09] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I think that's the most perverse thing about Garrett. [04:09] XRevan86 That's pretty promising. [04:09] schestowitz-TR [04:05] schestowitz: sshchat is maybe an interesting one.\ [04:09] DaemonFC He's one of these leftist morons that goes along with this load of tripe. [04:09] schestowitz-TR I use ytalk over ssh [04:10] DaemonFC "We can't enforce laws against fare evasion! We have Most of them are ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED VICTIMS OF STRUCTURAL RACISM PEOPLE OF COLOR!!!!". [04:10] DaemonFC Well, that's a lot of words for "black". [04:10] XRevan86 schestowitz: ssh-chat is chat directly with the ssh client. [04:10] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: so it would be like the jabber "chat"/"rooms" but with IRC bridge? [04:10] DaemonFC They say they're pro-environment, they wasted a lot of my screen on time to read that. [04:11] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: seems OT [04:11] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: so, you set up an ssh-server [04:11] DaemonFC Seems maybe not so much. [04:11] schestowitz-TR and that then listens to clients that 'dial in'? [04:11] schestowitz-TR and relays in/out messages? [04:11] DaemonFC Companies that claim to write software and actually write whitepapers are packed to the gills with these idiots. [04:12] schestowitz-TR with IRC bridge in the mix? [04:12] XRevan86 schestowitz: So IRC users get an individual puppet on the XMPP side and vice versa. [04:12] schestowitz-TR so people can in effect do irc over ssh? [04:12] XRevan86 Ah, I misunderstood the question. [04:12] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 27.95 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 136.31 swarm size (avg): 261.32 [04:13] schestowitz-TR I'm thinking, people who can't do IRC because it's hard... would they use jabber? It's not easier... [04:13] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I'm afraid ball joints day for my car might be approaching. [04:13] DaemonFC Probably put it off for a while. [04:13] XRevan86 schestowitz: The idea is simple: do ssh host, and ye are in the chat. [04:13] schestowitz-TR ah, I see [04:14] schestowitz-TR I can run such a daemon if it is stable [04:14] DaemonFC The strut noise seemed to go away for a while but comes back a little bit under some conditions. [04:14] schestowitz-TR there are some things like telnet similar to it [04:14] schestowitz-TR but telnet:// is not secure [04:14] schestowitz-TR or bbs [04:14] DaemonFC I think what they actually fixed with the new struts was the front end doesn't jump up and down as much, making the ball joints creak and squeak. [04:14] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: so matterbridge can delay r/w with that? [04:14] XRevan86 schestowitz: Maybe that could be used as a secure drop of some kind [04:15] schestowitz-TR yeah [04:15] XRevan86 schestowitz: yep [04:15] schestowitz-TR let me check it [04:15] schestowitz-TR shithub :/ [04:16] schestowitz-TR ok, pressing on regardless [04:16] schestowitz-TR mit licence [04:16] schestowitz-TR sttike 2 [04:16] schestowitz-TR made with go, that's ok [04:17] schestowitz ssh chat.shazow.net [04:18] schestowitz-TR looks nice [04:18] schestowitz-TR does colours too [04:18] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: if I install this at home (SBC behind me), would it bridge OK over ssh? [04:18] DaemonFC https://wgntv.com/news/salesforce-to-help-workers-leave-states-over-abortion-laws/ [04:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wgntv.com | Salesforce to help workers leave states over abortion laws | WGN-TV [04:18] schestowitz-TR I have an open ssh port on gemini.techrights.org [04:19] schestowitz-TR and ssh isn't throttled except for bandwidth [04:19] XRevan86 schestowitz: As long as my VPS can reach it. [04:19] schestowitz-TR can you ssh gemini.techrights.org? [04:19] schestowitz-TR should be able yo [04:19] schestowitz-TR *to [04:19] schestowitz-TR oh, wait [04:19] schestowitz-TR this ssh-chat seems to require allowing any guest account [04:20] schestowitz-TR passwordless [04:20] schestowitz-TR which might conflict with existing things [04:21] schestowitz-TR thew ergo server has go already [04:21] XRevan86 Oh, I've forgotten about an interesting one: it can bridge Mumble. [04:21] schestowitz-TR it has openssh, but open outwards only for now [04:21] schestowitz-TR so people can ssh irc.techrights.org [04:21] schestowitz-TR over port 22 [04:22] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: we have mumble [04:22] schestowitz-TR it's in another country though [04:22] kingoffrance sshchat, interesting. i think you could do same inside some sandbox, setting shell to whatever command, but interesting :) [04:23] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: so basically you'd bridge gemini.techrights.org:22 (ssh) and gemini.techrights.org (66**) [04:24] schestowitz-TR and so an irc container becomes also ssh container for irc and vice versa [04:24] schestowitz-TR oops [04:24] schestowitz-TR I meant irc.techrights.org [04:26] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Biden basically had his Mission Accomplished moment on July 4th. [04:26] DaemonFC "Independence" from the virus. [04:26] DaemonFC What a stupid and dangerous thing to say. [04:26] DaemonFC Viruses don't just disappear and bend to the will of some politician. [04:26] DaemonFC They can disappear almost completely and then come back years later at you almost out of nowhere. [04:27] XRevan86 schestowitz: I'll go to sleep now. [04:27] XRevan86 It should be figured out if ssh-chat will actually be useful here. Not sure. [04:28] schestowitz-TR it can be easy for spamming [04:28] schestowitz-TR ssh irc.techrights.org, write something nasty, log out [04:28] schestowitz-TR in terms of dependencies, we already have golang on there [04:29] schestowitz-TR in terms of security, not sure... I don't like open ssh ports with guest accounts open [04:29] schestowitz-TR the UI, which I try on their test server, is very 1970s-like [04:29] schestowitz-TR telnet or worse [04:29] schestowitz * ache left. (After 71 minutes) [04:29] schestowitz legend: voldyman: how r u sir [04:29] schestowitz legend: bun? zenware? pavel? [04:29] schestowitz legend: noooo [04:29] schestowitz legend: why is no one on :( [04:29] schestowitz * roy joined. (Connected: 20) [04:30] schestowitz [roy] hi [04:30] schestowitz [roy] [04:30] schestowitz it has colours too [04:30] schestowitz for the nicknames [04:30] schestowitz clicks would not work over terminal [04:31] schestowitz XRevan86: gn, I've asked a friend for an opinion on this... [04:31] schestowitz tbh, whistleblowers with doc drops who can't do pgp or even protonmail (simplifying that) probably don't know how to use ssh or terminal [04:32] XRevan86 Looks like the Matrix bridge idea is the most solid here, and there are three ways how to make one. [04:32] schestowitz-TR LC would open up to fighting [04:32] schestowitz-TR there are people there who would fight us [04:32] schestowitz-TR and it would not be productive to us [04:32] *mib_ti9m2n (~6b740d2c@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [04:33] XRevan86 schestowitz: I really think ye are severely overestimating their importance. [04:33] schestowitz-TR LC's? [04:33] schestowitz-TR it is a potential noise factor [04:33] XRevan86 schestowitz: Librarian's. [04:33] schestowitz-TR if bridged in [04:34] schestowitz-TR no, not just him [04:35] XRevan86 schestowitz: A functioning bridge into something that isn't a dead empire is going to bring some noise. [04:35] schestowitz-TR I don't see why irc<->irc<->matrix [04:35] schestowitz-TR instead of just irc<->matrix [04:35] schestowitz-TR because the one in the middle has matrix's 'blessing'? [04:35] XRevan86 schestowitz: Because appservice-irc is hard, also because then someone will have to be directly there. [04:36] schestowitz-TR in gemini I did a read-only IRC thing [04:36] XRevan86 schestowitz: One of the three ways is to host appservice-irc ourselves. [04:37] schestowitz gemini://gemini.techrights.org/chat/index.gmi [04:37] schestowitz in gemini there is also read/write chat software, very rudimentary, but no connection to irc protocol [04:38] XRevan86 IRC is easy to host, XMPP is easy-ish to host, Matrix is a challenge. [04:38] *techrights_guest|89 (~519aac55@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [04:38] *mib_j80byq (~519aac55@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [04:38] schestowitz Warning: Permanently added 'chat.shazow.net,104.131.112.139' (RSA) to the list of known hosts. [04:39] schestowitz * Welcome to ssh-chat, enter /help for more. [04:39] schestowitz Please enjoy our selection of bugs, but run your own server if you want to crash it: https://ssh.chat/issues [04:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Issues shazow/ssh-chat GitHub [04:39] schestowitz Sponsors get an emoji prefix: https://ssh.chat/sponsor [04:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sponsor @shazow on GitHub Sponsors GitHub [04:39] schestowitz Be nice and follow our Code of Conduct: https://ssh.chat/conduct [04:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ssh-chat/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md at master shazow/ssh-chat GitHub [04:39] schestowitz XRevan86: any practical advantages to XMPP? [04:39] XRevan86 schestowitz: So the appeal of using Libera for this task is simply because it allows reaching Matrix without actually touching Matrix. [04:40] schestowitz but then your advertise our metrix presence as LC something, no? [04:40] XRevan86 schestowitz: How should I answer that as a person that uses an XMPP client to write this message [04:41] XRevan86 schestowitz: Worse than matrix.org? [04:42] schestowitz you use pidgin? [04:42] schestowitz pidgin is a multi-protocol thing [04:42] schestowitz there are others [04:42] schestowitz but it just 'also' supports irc [04:42] XRevan86 schestowitz: I'm using Conversations, I'm in bed. [04:42] schestowitz I used it for like a decade for work [04:43] schestowitz openfire is java [04:43] schestowitz i.e. bloat [04:43] schestowitz and I had bad experience with it, having to restart it [04:43] XRevan86 XMPP has a lot of advantages to the user such as message archival (in private messages too), end-to-end encryption, message synchronisation across all clients, VVoIP [04:43] schestowitz would someone use it? [04:44] schestowitz let me ask a different question [04:44] schestowitz say you connect to it... [04:45] schestowitz and then there are "rooms" for the channels? [04:45] schestowitz would you see a list of who's in it (in IRC)? [04:45] schestowitz or would you talk to a room of only jabber users connected to the server and the bridge just show with alias for the irc user? [04:46] schestowitz unlike matrix, it can at least be self-hosted [04:46] schestowitz I know matrix can be too, but... [04:46] schestowitz (same issue as fediverse) [04:46] XRevan86 schestowitz: matterbridge cannot puppet the users, but it can do spoofing like RELAYMSG for XMPP too (with a Prosody module). [04:47] schestowitz do you think it would be worth the maintenance overhead? [04:48] schestowitz also, what daemon would you use to avoid java? [04:48] XRevan86 schestowitz: I'm using ejabberd (Erlang) myself. [04:48] schestowitz if we run it just for 1-2 users, it would be insane [04:48] schestowitz we can advertise jabber [04:48] schestowitz but I don't know how many takers there would be [04:49] XRevan86 schestowitz: Hard to tell, no one asked for it, and I can just use biboumi. [04:49] schestowitz let me first wait for response re ssh-chat [04:49] schestowitz a lot lighter [04:51] XRevan86 schestowitz: Regarding critics in Libera, they'll probably leave like superkuh when that channel is claimed. [04:52] schestowitz-TR then it gives power to LC over it [04:52] schestowitz-TR hypothetical case/scenario: we take your channel (i.e. users) away unless you silence raycist DaemonFC [04:52] XRevan86 schestowitz: As would anything short of self-hosting Matrix. [04:53] schestowitz-TR yeah [04:53] schestowitz-TR my understanding is that matrix is quasi-centralised [04:53] schestowitz-TR unless you want to exist in an island [04:53] *techrights_guest|76 (~519aac55@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [04:54] DaemonFC You can do your own instance, but Matrix.org censors other instances and sometimes individual rooms on those instances, making the decision as to whether users on their server can even see them. [04:54] schestowitz-TR that ^ [04:54] DaemonFC So it's not a legitimate protocol. I mean, I can load other IRC servers on HexChat and schestowitz-TR can't do a damned thing to stop me even if he wants to. [04:54] schestowitz-TR same issue as LC [04:55] DaemonFC IRC lets you control what happens on a server you own, and nothing else. [04:56] XRevan86 schestowitz: Matrix.org is disproportionately big, but the problem is that their distributed model is flooding any server that dares to federate with it with events, so they tend not to touch it. [04:56] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: I will get back to you on ssh-chat. failing that or rejecting that, we can look into xmmp [04:56] schestowitz-TR we already have mumble [04:56] schestowitz-TR but it's for techbytes recording [04:56] DaemonFC Matrix is a great protocol for a few people on the main instance to decide what you can see or not. If China wanted a system for state-propaganda and to monitor and control users, they'd undoubtedly pick Matrix. [04:56] XRevan86 So Matrix.org is its own thing, the rest its own. [04:57] DaemonFC Well, the other instances tend to be dead, or people who are just really weird. [04:57] DaemonFC I mean, like some of them are borderline illegal shit. [04:57] schestowitz-TR illegal by whose standards? [04:57] schestowitz-TR and where? [04:57] DaemonFC Well, I think CP is illegal in most countries. [04:57] schestowitz-TR 50 years ago gay chat would be "illega" [04:57] schestowitz-TR in some countries, it still is [04:58] XRevan86 DaemonFC: Some friends of mine host their own little Matrix communities. [04:58] schestowitz-TR I think I'll implement something for git over gemini:// [04:58] schestowitz-TR but it's a bit project [04:58] schestowitz-TR *big [04:59] XRevan86 And the modus operandi is always "don't join a Matrix.org channel or my server will eat all the space and die" ● Sep 12 [05:00] XRevan86 the big ones like #matrix in particular [05:00] schestowitz * roy joined. (Connected: 20) [05:00] schestowitz [roy] hi [05:00] schestowitz sds: pm me for cryptocurrency related programming job offer [05:00] schestowitz lol [05:00] schestowitz ssh-chat attracting the crypto charlatans [05:01] XRevan86 schestowitz: Ask if it's for a digital empire. [05:01] schestowitz there are already decent cli clients for IRC [05:01] schestowitz not sure why ssh irc.techrights.org would be any more functional [05:01] schestowitz it does not even support irc commands [05:02] schestowitz XRevan86: ok [05:02] XRevan86 schestowitz: Looks like despite trying to find a purpose for the bridge, it's just unneeded. [05:03] DaemonFC I like how Canada has this squeaky clean image. [05:03] schestowitz XRevan86: well, the change needed would be small [05:03] schestowitz might as well repurpose it [05:03] DaemonFC Meanwhile, they hate immigrants and export tar sands oil. [05:03] DaemonFC Make you wait a year or two to see the doctor even though "everyone can". [05:03] DaemonFC Assuming they live long enough to. [05:04] DaemonFC About the only thing they have on us, it seems, is that there's a lack of gun crime, but if the US was that white, we'd have similar statistics. [05:04] DaemonFC Although the left only blames the guns themselves and the second amendment. [05:04] schestowitz how is this on topic, DaemonFC? [05:05] DaemonFC Stallman posted a thing urging Canadians to petition their government to stop exporting fossil fuels. [05:05] DaemonFC Not gonna happen. [05:05] XRevan86 schestowitz: Maybe it could bridge just tuxmachines to Libera. [05:05] DaemonFC Trudeau was the loudest complainer about the US canceling Keystone XL, which is being ripped apart for scrap metal. [05:06] DaemonFC And Canada has sued the United States in a NAFTA court to try to force us to by oil or pay them "reparations" for not buying oil. [05:06] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: or all except techrights for now? [05:06] schestowitz-TR to avoid conflict? [05:06] DaemonFC So they're trying to sue us over clean air, fuel economy standards, and electric cars. [05:06] schestowitz-TR (I can assure you, there WOULD be conflicts) [05:06] schestowitz-TR and it puts me in awkward situations [05:06] XRevan86 schestowitz: Register them though. [05:06] schestowitz-TR need we? [05:07] schestowitz-TR unless there will be trolling? [05:07] schestowitz-TR you need op? [05:07] DaemonFC Maybe if we have to have fossil fuels, we can open some truly filthy coal plants after studying where we need to put them in order to make most of the air toxics fly across the border and land up there on them. [05:07] schestowitz-TR for changing nicks? [05:07] DaemonFC Assholes. [05:07] XRevan86 schestowitz: It's good to have used channels registered. [05:07] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: maybe first without [05:08] DaemonFC But really, almost nobody here remembers Canada is even up there. [05:08] schestowitz-TR as if's a lot of operational overhead [05:08] DaemonFC They're a real pest sometimes though. [05:08] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: I use a guest account there [05:08] DaemonFC With Prime Minister Trumpdeau. [05:08] schestowitz-TR don't want to register the channels as a guest account [05:09] DaemonFC https://www.theonion.com/ceos-give-advice-to-millennials-about-saving-money-1847636505 [05:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theonion.com | CEOs Give Advice To Millennials About Saving Money [05:10] DaemonFC "If theres anyone who can teach younger generations about saving money, its the men and women who are systematically robbing them of accumulated wealth and hoarding it for themselves." [05:10] DaemonFC Bill Gates pictured. [05:10] DaemonFC Nice. [05:11] DaemonFC If you put away even 5% from each paycheck, soon enough Steve Jobs will die, and youll be CEO of Apple. -Tim Cook [05:11] DaemonFC MinceR, ^ [05:11] DaemonFC 30% of your income should be for rent, 25% for food, and 40% for hush money for mistresses. -Jamie Dimon (Chase) [05:11] DaemonFC That's good. [05:12] *mib_ti9m2n has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [05:12] XRevan86 schestowitz: Unregister on IRC.com, register there %). [05:12] *mib_ti9m2n (~6b740d2c@kjvq8jm9s83qu.irc) has joined #techrights [05:12] XRevan86 The resulting amount of accounts will remain the same. [05:12] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 23.00 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 16.46 swarm size (avg): 261.33 [05:13] XRevan86 It's just too easy to lose +o when a channel is not registered. [05:13] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: :-) [05:14] DaemonFC "One of the most important things you can do, and this is something it took me my whole life to learn, is avoid going to a privately owned island with a widely known pedophile for a few of his parties. That will really destroy your savings. -Bill Gates [05:14] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: Does your bridge already have an account in LC? [05:15] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Bill and MALINDA are still working together on fake philanthropy. [05:15] DaemonFC They invested some money in some British startup that says it wants to research broad spectrum antivirals. [05:15] DaemonFC Maybe people don't care as much about baldness and boners as they once did. [05:16] DaemonFC Have some Pfizer. It's just a little prick! [05:16] kingoffrance lol daemon [05:16] kingoffrance these sound like motivational posters lol [05:17] DaemonFC When people find themselves in hard times, they have to go back to basics. [05:17] DaemonFC We're not operating like we're in a booming economy, although the propaganda says we are. [05:17] kingoffrance i mean, the real ones are at that level [05:17] XRevan86 schestowitz: Yes, I registered it all the way back in May. [05:17] kingoffrance just as useful [05:17] DaemonFC People are trading recipes for how to have spam several times a week. [05:19] DaemonFC Mom always used to laugh at me for eating SPAM. [05:19] DaemonFC Now she eats it, because she panicked and bought a bunch. [05:19] DaemonFC I told her "Relax, you like Trump and he says there's no problem with the grocery stores!". [05:20] DaemonFC Trump says don't panic, people are knifing each other for the last bottle of ketchup. [05:22] DaemonFC bbl [05:22] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) [05:24] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: maybe we can channel the bridge for all channels except #techrights to LC instead? [05:24] schestowitz-TR at least this way some people on LC can reach us [05:24] schestowitz-TR via 'side channels' [05:25] schestowitz-TR those channels almost never had ANY joseon.kr interaction anyway [05:34] techrights-news neat miniature retro https://hackaday.com/2021/09/11/thicc-gba-sp-mod-gets-easy-install-ahead-of-release/ [05:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-THICC GBA SP Mod Gets Easy Install Ahead Of Release | Hackaday [05:41] *techrights_guest|76 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [05:46] schestowitz XRevan86: [05:46] schestowitz [roy] is it for a digital empire? [05:46] schestowitz * leen joined. (Connected: 21) [05:46] schestowitz leen: sounds like legend is lone [05:46] schestowitz it's a worthless chat there, with no real interaction among people [05:46] schestowitz I speak to a friend at the moment about technical aspects wrt ssh-chat [05:47] schestowitz he too thinks irssi would be vastly better [05:47] schestowitz and maybe no real practical benefit, so we now talk about mumble and xmmp [05:48] schestowitz I think the LC channels that are not #techrights are rather empty anyway and unless advertised I doubt people will /search or /list them [05:49] schestowitz maybe this weekend we'll publish all the code from git, but over gemini:// instead of http/s [05:51] techrights-news "This Perl module converts POD documents to thread, the macro language I use for my static site builder (about which, more in another software release coming up shortly). This release fixes a whole ton of long-standing problems." https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/journal/2021-09/001.html [05:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eyrie.org | Eagle's Path: Pod::Thread 3.00 (2021-09-11) [05:53] techrights-news #visurf, a web browser based on #NetSurf http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155545 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [05:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | visurf, a web browser based on NetSurf | Tux Machines ● Sep 12 [06:12] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [06:14] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.91 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 42.15 swarm size (avg): 261.34 ● Sep 12 [07:04] *mib_ti9m2n has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [07:14] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.33 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 5.05 swarm size (avg): 261.34 [07:14] *mib_oz23yo (~67a00892@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [07:15] *mib_oz23yo has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [07:25] techrights-news NEWS #uniToronto #Fedora Some things to reduce background bandwidth usage on a Fedora machine https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/FedoraReducingBandwidth [07:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-utcc.utoronto.ca | Chris's Wiki :: blog/linux/FedoraReducingBandwidth [07:26] techrights-news NEWS #Talospace #Hardware First POWER10 Machine Announced https://www.talospace.com/2021/09/first-power10-machine-announced.html [07:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.talospace.com | First POWER10 machine announced [07:27] techrights-news NEWS #IndiaTimes #ProprietarySoftware Cybersecurity seen as rising risk for airlines after 9/11 https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/digital-security/cybersecurity-seen-as-rising-risk-for-airlines-after-9/11/86110944 [07:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | Risks of digital technology in flying: Cybersecurity seen as rising risk for airlines after 9/11, IT News, ET CIO [07:28] techrights-news NEWS #Variety #Surveillance #Privacy Smart Glasses Could Be Big for Facebook. Just Not Anytime Soon https://variety.com/vip/smart-glasses-could-be-big-for-facebook-just-not-anytime-soon-1235058958/ [07:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Smart Glasses Could Be Big for Facebook. 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If a person entered a password at the very first bootup, Easy creates encrypted folders in the ext4 working-partition." https://bkhome.org/news/202109/fscrypt-broken-in-user-spot.html [07:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | Fscrypt broken in user spot [07:42] *mib_i45lhc (~74444814@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [07:44] *mib_i45lhc has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [07:45] techrights-news NEWS #TheVerge # #Facebook reportedly provided inaccurate data to #misinformation researchers https://www.theverge.com/2021/9/11/22668396/facebook-provided-inaccurate-data-misinformation-researchers [07:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Facebook reportedly provided inaccurate data to misinformation researchers - The Verge [07:45] techrights-news NEWS #NewYorkTimes #FB #Facebook sent flawed data to #misinformation researchers. https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/2020-election-misinformation-distortions#facebook-sent-flawed-data-to-misinformation-researchers [07:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Tracking Viral Misinformation: Latest Updates - The New York Times [07:45] techrights-news NEWS #TheVerge CBSs The Activist seems to think doomscrolling equals #activism https://www.theverge.com/2021/9/11/22667567/the-activist-naomi-klein-cbs-doomscrolling-activism-politics-usher-priyanka-chopra [07:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | CBSs The Activist seems to think doomscrolling equals activism - The Verge [07:46] techrights-news NEWS #TheAtlantic #Censorship How #Hollywood Sold Out to #China https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2021/09/how-hollywood-sold-out-to-china/620021/ [07:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theatlantic.com | How Hollywood Sold Out to China - The Atlantic [07:51] techrights-news NEWS #Newsweek #wikileaks Why is #Biden Prosecuting #Assange for Telling the Truth about #Afghanistan h https://www.newsweek.com/why-biden-prosecuting-assange-telling-truth-about-afghanistan-opinion-1627963 [07:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newsweek.com | Why is Biden Prosecuting Assange for Telling the Truth about Afghanistan? | Opinion [07:57] gustaf weechat is more powerful than irssi... but I prefer irssi anyway ;) ● Sep 12 [08:12] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.66 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 4.60 swarm size (avg): 261.33 [08:22] techrights-news NEWS #EDRI #Internet #CJEU in surprise judgment: #zerorating is illegal under #EU law https://edri.org/our-work/cjeu-in-surprise-judgment-zero-rating-is-illegal-under-eu-law/ [08:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edri.org | CJEU in surprise judgment: zero rating is illegal under EU law - European Digital Rights (EDRi) [08:26] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:27] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:29] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [08:30] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [08:53] techrights-news NEWS #TruthOut #California Passes Bill to Ensure #Amazon Workers Can Take Bathroom Breaks https://truthout.org/articles/california-passes-bill-to-ensure-amazon-workers-can-take-bathroom-breaks/ need a lot for THAT??? [08:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | California Passes Bill to Ensure Amazon Workers Can Take Bathroom Breaks ● Sep 12 [09:00] *mib_ti9m2n (~6b740d2c@kjvq8jm9s83qu.irc) has joined #techrights [09:03] *m___ (~Adium@axe8sdwa9qgju.irc) has joined #techrights [09:03] *mib_6uy99i (~4f8f6ffc@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [09:10] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:11] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@vf9uspfbqtzpu.irc) has joined #techrights [09:12] techrights-news iophk: :( social control media is beyond stupid, as is the copyright cartel https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/linux-song-remover-4175700478/ #socialcontol [09:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxquestions.org | Linux Song Remover [09:13] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 21.11 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 14.35 swarm size (avg): 261.34 [09:25] techrights-news #greenwald https://meaww.com/chelsea-manning-turns-against-dear-friend-glenn-greenwald-calls-him-youre-greedy-unprincipled [09:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Chelsea Manning breaks friendship with 'greedy, unprincipled' Glenn Greenwald | MEAWW [09:25] techrights-news #assange #wikileaks https://www.rcreader.com/commentary/the-assange-case-Is-not-about-national-security-it-is-about-narrative-control [09:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rcreader.com | The Assange Case Isnt About National Security, Its About Narrative Control | River Cities' Reader [09:27] *mib_ti9m2n has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [09:28] *mib_ti9m2n (~6b740d2c@kjvq8jm9s83qu.irc) has joined #techrights [09:33] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:33] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:40] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [09:41] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [09:43] *mib_ti9m2n has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [09:56] *mib_ti9m2n (~6b740d2c@kjvq8jm9s83qu.irc) has joined #techrights [09:56] techrights-news #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155546 #Linux #TuxMachines [09:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines ● Sep 12 [10:05] *mib_ti9m2n has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [10:29] *techrights_guest|43 (~47414190@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [10:30] *techrights_guest|43 is now known as bagira_lives [10:31] bagira_lives schestowitz wish that RMS interview had been a little longer [10:32] bagira_lives i just the april 22nd post [10:32] bagira_lives eek -- just saw* [10:32] schestowitz-TR about which topic? [10:32] schestowitz-TR maybe it was a small portion of a long one [10:32] bagira_lives re: smear campaigns and their level of organization [10:32] schestowitz-TR link? [10:32] bagira_lives http://techrights.org/2021/04/22/rms-smear-campaigns/ [10:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Richard Stallman on Paid Smear Campaigns | Techrights [10:33] schestowitz http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Richard_Stallman_interviews_in_Techrights/TechBytes [10:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Richard Stallman interviews in Techrights/TechBytes - Techrights [10:33] schestowitz lots more here [10:34] bagira_lives i think if one campaign were just completely ripped open and exposed, and that there were real consequences for the people involved that it would create a cultural impact [10:34] schestowitz-TR it is not a new phenomenon [10:34] bagira_lives it seems like there already has been some in recent months but not to any preventative level [10:34] bagira_lives (impact, i mean) [10:34] schestowitz-TR I learned over time, myself at least, how to avoid those [10:35] bagira_lives im basically immune to them after fighting them so long [10:35] schestowitz-TR see stallman.org [10:35] schestowitz-TR today [10:35] schestowitz-TR front page [10:35] schestowitz-TR oh, wait [10:35] schestowitz-TR no, he changed that back [10:37] bagira_lives the folks in larger foss projects can't make up lies about me because of how i live so the only way they can get me is "he's a troublemaker, whisper whisper" and i wear that **** like a badge of honor [10:37] bagira_lives and it's true [10:38] bagira_lives wait how tf am i even on here? which network is this? [10:38] bagira_lives is this liberia [10:39] bagira_lives i dont see anything on his site [10:39] bagira_lives related to that anyway [10:40] *includeals has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [10:43] *includeals (~includeal@a94-132-136-59.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #techrights [10:43] bagira_lives ironic though that the only means of communicating (unless im not aware of a 3rd network) with the only publication covering how these orgs try to blacklist folks is on networks that deliberately de-anonymize irc connections using forced SASL requirements and limiting registration to connect for SASL to consumer IPs so that they can more [10:43] bagira_lives effectively control who can be in the club [10:44] schestowitz-TR that's the nature of people [10:44] schestowitz-TR and society [10:44] schestowitz-TR so you need to change the way things are made technically [10:44] schestowitz-TR as governments ban encryption where possible [10:44] schestowitz-TR (real encryption) [10:44] schestowitz-TR the solution is technical, not policy, which can be bought [10:45] bagira_lives well, yeah, i mean, getting in is easy, its just a pain in the butt [10:45] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:46] bagira_lives digital ocean for example is completely banned on both networks [10:46] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:46] bagira_lives i could go aws its just a stupid amount of setup [10:46] schestowitz-TR you need to re-engineer [10:47] schestowitz-TR at the moment I set up an interface for our self-hosted git [10:47] schestowitz-TR it'll be gemini-only [10:47] schestowitz-TR gemini has tons of web proxies to it [10:47] schestowitz-TR and I run it from home [10:47] schestowitz-TR gemini://gemini.techrights.org/git/ [10:47] schestowitz-TR work in progress [10:48] bagira_lives i typically will avoid open proxies for irc as when i get spotted they'll ban whole providers if they have to and most of those are already on the dronbl's, so, i typically will use VPS's to connect until the whole VPS provider is blacklisted [10:49] bagira_lives i just need a shit ton of IP addresses [10:50] bagira_lives could go the shodan route but it's legally grey (and not very grey tbh) [10:58] schestowitz-TR seems like a misguided approach tbh [10:58] schestowitz-TR you brute-force it [10:59] bagira_lives wait until im marketing a new distro not backed by big 5 funding [10:59] bagira_lives it is gonna be u-g-l-y ● Sep 12 [11:00] bagira_lives in some senses im counting on it [11:01] bagira_lives if i can ever get the dang thing to release anyway [11:01] bagira_lives i need more people [11:01] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [11:01] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [11:04] *includeals has quit (Quit: ZNC - https://znc.in) [11:06] *bagira_lives has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [11:09] *includeals (~includeal@a94-132-136-59.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #techrights [11:11] *includeals has quit (Client Quit) [11:12] *includeals (~includeal@a94-132-136-59.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #techrights [11:12] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 24.11 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 4.60 swarm size (avg): 261.33 [11:17] schestowitz-TR by big 5 you mean faang, not gafam [11:17] schestowitz-TR which misses the point imho [11:17] *m___ has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [11:17] schestowitz-TR there are also distros like that already [11:21] techrights-news Almost done now: a #geminiSpace capsule and space for our #git code to be browsed. No bloated #www frameworks, gemini:// only. #deletegithub [11:22] *mib_6uy99i has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [11:22] techrights-news #facebook thinks competition harms its 'community' https://mastodon.social/@humanetech/106914332280931087 [11:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.social | Humane Tech Now: "Just now on HN: "FB censored me for mentioning " - Mastodon [11:23] techrights-news Came to a bar to have a nice beer, like any reasonable person would on a Friday. The waitress asked me to order through a QR code which would take my order only if I have a Gmail account. I left and found another bar because: I dont want to have a beer through my Gmail. Jesus fucking Christ. https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/106912508419307588 [11:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.ar.al | Aral Balkan: "Came to a bar to have a nice beer, like any reas" - Arals Mastodon [11:24] techrights-news Prince Andrew Is Served With Papers In A Civil Suit Over Sexual Assault Allegations https://text.npr.org/1036152465 #billgates next? https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates.html [11:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-text.npr.org | Prince Andrew Is Served With Papers In A Civil Suit Over Sexual Assault Allegations [11:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Bill Gates Met With Jeffrey Epstein Many Times, Despite His Past - The New York Times [11:28] techrights-news "It's just my ex, Bill" - Melinda. "We used to be friends" - Warren B. This happened after revelations in #mit (but it wasn't #billgates getting thrown under the bug in MIT but RMS. Nice decoy, eh?) http://techrights.org/2019/12/21/police-report-bill-gates/ [11:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mansion of Pedophilia Part II: Dr. Stallman Defamed in the Media One Day After Request Made for King County Sheriffs Office to Divulge Information About Pedophilia in Home of Bill Gates | Techrights [11:28] schestowitz-TR *bus [11:29] techrights-news #paywalls aren't attractive. Sure, you CAN get past them by paying. BUT... what if you LIKE what you read and want to SHARE with a friend? This. Is. CRAP. #www [11:49] *techrights_guest|89 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [11:49] *mib_j80byq has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) ● Sep 12 [12:10] techrights-news Storaji: #freesw Simple inventory management application https://medevel.com/storaji/ "The System required NodeJS 8, PHP 7, PHP Composer. It is licensed under MIT license." [12:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | Storaji: An Open-Source Simple inventory management application [12:12] techrights-news #IRC Proceedings: Saturday, September 11, 2021 http://techrights.org/2021/09/12/irc-log-110921/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/12/irc-log-110921/ [12:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Saturday, September 11, 2021 | Techrights [12:15] *mib_ti9m2n (~6b740d2c@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [12:20] *mib_ti9m2n has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [12:24] leah schestowitz-TR: libreboot gemtext site isn't ready yet, but i've got someone working on it [12:24] leah i'm planning to make it the main site [12:24] schestowitz-TR we've just put git in gemini [12:24] *job has quit (connection closed) [12:24] schestowitz-TR we might be the world's first, but I don't know [12:25] leah i will make gemtext the source markup language for all of libreboot.org [12:25] leah i will add gemtext to markdown conversion in untitled, and then continue using pandoc, to generate html [12:25] leah in other words, i will use gemtext (for most pages) but convert it to html [12:26] leah some pages, like the homepage, will be maintained twice (one in markdown, one in gemtext) [12:26] *job (~job@dpbvb2gcw6xvw.irc) has joined #techrights [12:26] leah i will turn untitled into a hybrid gemtext/markdown static site generator. gemtext is inferior to markdown, but is good enough for most pages, and you can still use it for just basic page text but then insert that into a larger page with header, menu, footer etc (pandoc html template) [12:27] leah if a gemtext file links to an image, it can be converted to an inline image on the markdown version, during conversion [12:27] leah of course, markdown->gemini is also possible, but not as clean [12:29] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:29] *inky_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [12:29] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:33] schestowitz-TR sounds like a good plan [12:33] schestowitz-TR either way, I ended up doing it another way [12:34] schestowitz gemini://gemini.techrights.org/git/ [12:35] techrights-news Our gemini/git work is done for now, but will be improved upon soon. gemini://gemini.techrights.org/git/ [12:37] techrights-news ssh-chat/bridge for irc is another possibility. Turns out we can leverage ssh alone for irc chats (no need for irc client), using a compatibility layer such as matterbridge. irc made simpler, in some sense, but also more vulnerable to floods/span as anyone can just ssh in. [12:47] MinceR 12 043636 <~schestowitz> DaemonFC: tablets are less malicious than phones [12:47] MinceR there are tablets with mobile phone functionality [12:47] MinceR there are even laptops with cellular connectivity built in :> [12:47] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [12:48] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [12:48] schestowitz-TR i know, but that is sad [12:49] schestowitz-TR "smart" laptops [12:49] MinceR 12 045159 < XRevan86> schestowitz: I'm just bothered by things that have no reason to exist and just pollute the participants list. [12:49] MinceR you're never going to like public chats then :> [12:49] schestowitz-TR or twitter [12:52] MinceR 12 061113 < DaemonFC> If you put away even 5% from each paycheck, soon enough Steve Jobs will die, and youll be CEO of Apple. -Tim Cook [12:52] MinceR lol [12:53] schestowitz-TR Tim CR0ook [12:53] schestowitz-TR Tim, mind if I scan your phone? [12:53] schestowitz-TR 'ya 'ol' hash!" [12:54] schestowitz-TR "standards procedure, Timmy, thanks for your cooperation" [12:56] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:58] techrights-news Latest on the manic, irrational effort to #patent life and nature in the United States https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/09/toolgen-files-opposition-to-broad-preliminary-motion-no-1-to-change-interference-count.html #patents #monopoly [12:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: ToolGen Files Opposition to Broad Preliminary Motion No. 1 to Change Interference Count ● Sep 12 [13:00] techrights-news "Governor #Newsom has instituted a large program to provide and adapt housing for #California 's homeless people though it isn't as big as the problem requires." https://stallman.org/archives/2021-jul-oct.html#11_September_2021_%28California%27s_homeless%29 [13:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman [13:02] techrights-news [Satire] Study: Majority Of U.S. Population One Disappointing Sandwich Away From Complete Mental Breakdown https://www.theonion.com/study-majority-of-u-s-population-one-disappointing-sa-1847629805 [13:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theonion.com | Study: Majority Of U.S. Population One Disappointing Sandwich Away From Complete Mental Breakdown [13:03] techrights-news It's Looking Like Folios / Pagesets Might Miss Making It Into Linux 5.15 - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Folios-Pagesets-MIA-5.15 #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/09/12/#latest [13:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-It's Looking Like Folios / Pagesets Might Miss Making It Into Linux 5.15 - Phoronix [13:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [13:04] *activelow (~activelow@kw4qm9cynvx82.irc) has joined #techrights [13:06] techrights-news Worse than before the invasion https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/un-says-afghan-staff-increasingly-harassed-intimidated-since-taliban-takeover-2021-09-09/ [13:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-U.N. says Afghan staff increasingly harassed, intimidated since Taliban takeover | Reuters [13:08] techrights-news "Ties between the world's two biggest economies have been languishing at their lowest point in decades over issues ranging from human rights to transparency over the origins of COVID-19." https://www.reuters.com/world/un-chief-urges-china-us-keep-bilateral-spats-out-climate-fight-2021-09-10/ [13:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-U.N. chief urges China, US to keep bilateral spats out of climate fight | Reuters [13:09] techrights-news I see that the corrupt #guardian is still taking bribes from a close friend of Jeffrey Epstein and still inciting the public, selectively, against #microsoft rivals (that do the same or less than Microsoft). #billgates #bribery [13:11] techrights-news #SJVN in #theregister now. I hope he quits the #microsoft #propagandaMill that #zdnet is... https://www.theregister.com/2021/09/08/open_source_beyond_the_programmers/ [13:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Open-source software starts with developers, but there are other important contributors, too. Who exactly? Good question The Register [13:13] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.73 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 25.90 swarm size (avg): 261.33 [13:15] techrights-news Common misconception: large corporations try to cancel right-leaning developers. Reality: large corporations love to cancel their sceptics, critics and ideological rivals (RMS is one example). They play the "wing" games as a convenient pretext, weaponised by "isms". [13:15] MinceR (cat) https://img.pr0gramm.com/2021/08/17/3bd9737ca3f33124.jpg [13:15] techrights-news "In addition to the #RISCV changes merged last week for the #Linux 5.15 kernel, a second batch of patches was merged this weekend." https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=RISC-V-Better-Stack-Rand [13:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-RISC-V Gets Expanded Stack Randomization With Linux 5.15 - Phoronix [13:17] techrights-news #Kernel: RISC-V, Folios, and Security http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155547 #GPL #Linux #TuxMachines [13:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: RISC-V, Folios, and Security | Tux Machines [13:20] techrights-news "How many times did you need to ask your friends for an opinion or a vote? Some #Google modules can help this but when you want to privately host your surveys the best answer is #LimeSurvey on Raspberry PI" https://peppe8o.com/self-host-your-surveys-with-limesurvey-and-raspberry-pi/ [13:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-peppe8o.com | Self-host your Surveys with LimeSurvey and Raspberry PI [13:24] techrights-news Mr. Thaler is just totally trolling or ridiculing patent systems all around the world, both officex and courts. That helps discredit the system for what a lunacy machine it is fast becoming, unhinged from its original goals/rationale https://www.bioworld.com/articles/511163-thaler-comes-up-short-in-district-court-fight-over-inventorship-rights-for-ai?v=preview [13:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Thaler comes up short in district court fight over inventorship rights for AI | BioWorld [13:26] techrights-news "Daddy, what does #Ericsson make?" "Nothing, sweetheart, it's just paying some thuggish #patent #law firms to #blackmail those who still make things..." https://www.managingip.com/article/b1tjjc6xqsgh4s/ericsson-fifth-circuit-win-further-fortifies-sep-owner-stance-in-us http://techrights.org/2018/01/14/ericsson-avanci-and-unwired-planet/ [13:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Ericsson Fifth Circuit win further fortifies SEP owner stance in US | Managing Intellectual Property [13:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | If Ericsson and Its Patent Trolls (Like Avanci and Unwired Planet) Cannot Make It, the Patent Microcosm Will Perish | Techrights [13:38] techrights-news Apache Software Foundation Saw $3M In Revenue, ~134M Changed Lines Of Code Last Year https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Apache-FY2021-Report #deletegithub #microsoft #proprietarySoftware http://techrights.org/2019/04/29/asf-prisoner-of-microsoft/ [13:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apache Software Foundation Saw $3M In Revenue, ~134M Changed Lines Of Code Last Year - Phoronix [13:38] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/rapture [13:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | After Killing the Independence of Apache Software Foundation (ASF) Microsoft Steals Its Soul, Too | Techrights [13:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Rapture [13:40] techrights-news #OpenHardware /Modding Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155548 [13:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware/Modding Leftovers | Tux Machines [13:40] techrights-news #Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155549 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [13:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [13:41] techrights-news #FreeSoftware : Events, Stats, and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155550 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [13:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free Software: Events, Stats, and More | Tux Machines [13:49] *sepsinn (~sepsinn@c9nu4ummhfn7e.irc) has joined #techrights [13:50] techrights-news #KDE DEVLOG: The Science Of... Changing The Wallpaper!? - Kockatoo Tube https://tube.kockatoo.org/w/98e6d850-671d-47d7-9dc5-b9df903161af #peertube #gnu #linux [13:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tube.kockatoo.org | KDE DEVLOG: The Science Of... Changing The Wallpaper!? - Kockatoo Tube [13:54] techrights-news #Videos and Shows: KDE, GNU, and This Week in Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155551 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [13:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Videos and Shows: KDE, GNU, and This Week in Linux | Tux Machines [13:57] techrights-news #Gnome 3 compare to MacOs http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155552 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [13:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Gnome 3 compare to MacOs | Tux Machines [13:58] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/weekend-random-randomness-35-pics-2.jpeg [13:59] schestowitz-TR MinceR: useless shit, you can just go anywhere with Bill Gates and spray won't be needed ● Sep 12 [14:02] MinceR :> [14:02] MinceR i'd rather use the spray [14:03] schestowitz-TR that's what she said (melinda) [14:08] techrights-news Communities of software developers are "toxic", tell us companies that pollute the planet or provide all the technical services to mass polluters that spread thousands of tons of toxins (PER DAY) all across planet. #microsoft #ibm #bayer #monsanto #exxon [14:12] techrights-news Links 12/9/2021: Final Merges in Linux 5.15, GNOME 3 Compared to MacOs http://techrights.org/2021/09/12/final-merges-in-linux-5-15/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/12/final-merges-in-linux-5-15/ [14:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 12/9/2021: Final Merges in Linux 5.15, GNOME 3 Compared to MacOs | Techrights [14:13] techrights-news #Proprietary #BackDoors and #Privacy Abuses http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155553 #TuxMachines [14:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Back Doors and Privacy Abuses | Tux Machines [14:13] techrights-news #IBM and #Debian Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155554 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [14:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM and Debian Leftovers | Tux Machines [14:19] *MinceR has quit (connection closed) [14:26] *MinceR (~mincer@bringer.of.light) has joined #techrights [14:26] *irc.techrights.org gives channel operator status to MinceR [14:27] XRevan86 MinceR: It's also my responsibility and it just hangs there in the list as op doing nothing. [14:28] MinceR ok [14:30] schestowitz I checked syslog today, after we had installed an agate update; in the process I found that agate logs to it and also includes full URL included, which means we can get Gemini stats by URL. Not that we would; it would be rather useless and a waste of time, but those logs are rotated out of existence after a week, as they should... [14:33] techrights-news No, unless you wish to completely de-legitimise the #patent system https://www.enterpriseai.news/2021/09/09/should-ai-systems-be-considered-as-inventors-on-u-s-patent-applications/ [14:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.enterpriseai.news | Should AI Systems Be Considered As Inventors on US Patent Applications? [14:34] techrights-news Unbelievable; the convicted fraudsters (recently) from #marksclerk want to profit from destruction too, via #patents https://www.marks-clerk.com/insights/patenting-for-the-decommissioning-market/ [14:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.marks-clerk.com | Patenting for the Decommissioning Market [14:36] techrights-news "A #tradesecret is any information used in one's business that derives independent economic value from being kept secret. Unlike #patents , #tradesecrets are protected indefinitely for as long as they remain a secret." https://www.mondaq.com/france/trade-secrets/1103556/2021-mid-year-review-key-global-trade-secret-developments [14:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | 2021 Mid-Year Review: Key Global Trade Secret Developments - Intellectual Property - Worldwide [14:39] techrights-news Profoundly rigged courts, the EPO's BoA or TBA in this case, would of course accept bogus #softwarepatents that no court (that's not rigged by #EPO thugs) would ever accept https://www.mondaq.com/germany/patent/1094138/disambiguation-of-text-with-an-upper-and-lower-case-technical see http://techrights.org/2021/06/26/g-121-epo-catastrophe/ [14:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Disambiguation Of Text With An Upper And Lower Case: Technical - Intellectual Property - Germany [14:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | G 1/21 is a Catastrophe for the EPOs Legitimacy | Techrights [14:41] techrights-news More #patents or #patent #monopolies around #cancer https://www.streetinsider.com/Business+Wire/USPTO+Grants+ONK+Therapeutics+Foundational+Patent+for+CISH+Knockout+in+NK+Cells+for+Use+in+Cancer+Therapies/18919347.html techrights.org/2015/12/26/epo-and-cancer/ [14:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.streetinsider.com | USPTO Grants ONK Therapeutics Foundational Patent for CISH Knockout in NK Cells for Use in Cancer Therapies [14:43] techrights-news #TeamUPC keeps lying, for profit, about #UPC , with effectively fake/bogus/false 'news' https://www.mondaq.com/ireland/patent/1109688/the-european-unified-patent-court-is-it-finally-within-reach see [14:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | The European Unified Patent Court Is It Finally Within Reach? - Intellectual Property - European Union [14:45] techrights-news Pursuing likely dubious #patents at the #EPO (quality went downhill) and conflating EPO with the #EU , which are not the same thing and are not the same nations, either https://www.streetinsider.com/Globe+Newswire/Save+Foods+Granted+A+Patent+For+Its+Proprietary+Compound+For+The+Natural+Protection+Of+Edible+Matter/18920750.html http://techrights.org/2017/10/17/detrimental-effect-on-european-patents/ [14:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.streetinsider.com | Save Foods Granted A Patent For Its Proprietary Compound For The Natural Protection Of Edible Matter [14:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | SUEPO Representatives Like Elizabeth Hardon Vindicated as Battistellis Detrimental Effect on Patent Quality is Widely Confirmed | Techrights [14:47] techrights-news In some #patent courts, common sense still prevails; #Australia and #SouthAfrica now look desperate for any #patents -- even bogus ones https://www.theregister.com/2021/09/04/ai_patent_ruling/ [14:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Only 'natural persons' can be recognized as patent inventors, not AI systems, US judge rules The Register [14:51] *koo6 (~koo6@89-24-13-235.customers.tmcz.cz) has joined #techrights [14:59] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Sep 12 [15:00] *job has quit (connection closed) [15:00] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:13] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.06 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 13.90 swarm size (avg): 261.34 [15:15] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [15:15] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [15:41] techrights-news A guide to #Singapore s new #copyright #law https://www.managingip.com/article/b1thycz3mfp42h/a-guide-to-singapores-new-copyright-law [15:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | A guide to Singapores new copyright law | Managing Intellectual Property [15:43] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/saturday-afternoon-random-randomness-7-17-21-24.jpg [15:44] techrights-news Celebration of #embargo from #litigation zealots who worked for #BristowsLLP and constantly lies about the #UPC for that awful firm http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/09/no-german-injunction-gap-expedition-in.html so-called #bristowsUPC http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Bristows_LLP [15:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | No "German injunction gap" expedition in Abbott v Dexcom global diabetes battle, as Mr Justice Mellor expresses "some regret" - The IPKat [15:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bristows LLP - Techrights [15:46] techrights-news As if the quality of today's #EPO -granted #patents is something worth celebrating all... http://www.businesskorea.co.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=76130 see http://techrights.org/2020/06/12/technologia-epo-survey/ [15:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businesskorea.co.kr | JW Bioscience to Register Patent on Early Sepsis Diagnosis Technology in Europe - Businesskorea [15:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | SUEPO (Staff Union of EPO): The Imbalance Between the Importance of (Patent) Quality and Quantity Remains a Cause for Concern and Only 3% of EPO Staff Has Confidence in President Campinos | Techrights [15:47] XRevan86 schestowitz: The bot can also be used to transition #boycottnovell-social to #techrights-social, how's that idea? :) [15:50] techrights-news More #fakepatents or bogus #litigation as #cafc steps in https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/09/approves-facilitate-management.html #uspto #patent [15:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Federal Circuit Approves of Order to Drop Patents from the Lawsuit to Facilitate Case Management | Patently-O [15:50] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: names don't matter that much [15:51] schestowitz-TR I've just recorded a long video [15:51] schestowitz-TR it mentions what we treid [15:51] schestowitz-TR or what we considered [15:51] schestowitz-TR seems like CLI/ncurses irc ciients sort of make ssh-chat obsolete [15:51] schestowitz-TR for those who know how to use irc anyway [15:51] schestowitz-TR or weechat [15:56] techrights-news Give Your #KDE Plasma Desktop The Wow Factor | Nord Color Pallete - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=2GYT7BK41zk #video #gnu #llnux [15:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Give Your KDE Plasma Desktop The Wow Factor | Nord Color Pallete - Invidious [15:58] XRevan86 > NickServ (NickServ@services.libera.chat): schestowitz is not registered. ● Sep 12 [16:00] techrights-news Argh... now #slashdot uses Tweets (!!!) as "sources"... downhill that site went [16:01] schestowitz-TR that means no imposters or relatives there... [16:02] techrights-news #slashdot rarely covers #linux anymore; when it does, like this afternoon, it's actually all about #apple and #microsoft (!!!) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/140541#comment-30939 #clickbait [16:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: Linux 5.9, Linux Plumbers Conference and Microsoftication | Tux Machines [16:03] MinceR 12 164744 < XRevan86> schestowitz: The bot can also be used to transition #boycottnovell-social to #techrights-social, how's that idea? :) [16:03] MinceR might as well be plain #social :> [16:03] XRevan86 MinceR: Hm, that's true. [16:05] XRevan86 But ergo probably already has things for renaming channels. [16:08] XRevan86 +f is there, yep. [16:12] MinceR (cat) (no audio) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2021/08/17/3c4c5ae8ff365daa.mp4 [16:18] techrights-news "The court has denied DMFs mandamus petition on an interesting post-IPR estoppel question." #ptab #uspto #patents #priorart https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/09/estoppel-printed-publication.html [16:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Post-IPR Estoppel: Printed Publication vs. Actual Product Shown in the Publication | Patently-O [16:20] techrights-news #taiwan -- like most countries and their courts/ #patent offices -- was not successfully #rickrolled by Mr. #Thaler https://www.mondaq.com/patent/1108642/dabus-the-ai-is-denied-inventorship-in-taiwan [16:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | DABUS The AI Is Denied Inventorship In Taiwan - Intellectual Property - Taiwan [16:22] techrights-news #microsoft boosters push for #patent maximalism, as one might expect... ttps://analyticsindiamag.com/can-ai-be-an-inventor-ryan-abbott-stephen-thaler-say-why-not see http://techrights.org/2021/03/18/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-13/ [16:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law Part XIII: A Global IP Player | Techrights [16:24] techrights-news Trying to police #socialcontrolmedia (which is all about mass control over people, minds, perception) for corporate brands https://www.managingip.com/article/b1tj0tm71f8jy4/influencer-issues-to-follow-ip-counsel-give-social-media-tips who does the controlling: http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/bill-gates-pays-twitter/ [16:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Influencer issues to follow: IP counsel give social media tips | Managing Intellectual Property [16:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Reality is Warped When You Pay for Perception Management (or: Bill Gates Pays Twitter for Propaganda) | Techrights [16:27] techrights-news Overt conflict of interest. Spreading utter lies and malicious false 'news' for "head of UPC Preparatory Committee" by "Colette Brady and Laura Scott are partners at William Fry." So #litigation firms are pushing complete #lies for profit in so-called 'media' http://www.irishlegal.com/articles/the-european-unified-patent-court-is-it-finally-within-reach see http://techrights.org/2021/08/19/captured-media-telling-lies/ [16:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.irishlegal.com | Analysis: The European Unified Patent Court is it finally within reach? | Irish Legal News [16:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Naming and Shaming Captured Publications That Knowingly and Intentionally Published Fake News About the EUs Unified Patent Court So Far This Week | Techrights [16:28] techrights-news "Week highlights: new version of BeeRef available, Inkscape updates, VCV Rack 2 teaser, new PipeWire release, and more." https://librearts.org/2021/09/week-recap-12-sep-2021/ [16:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-librearts.org | Libre Arts - Weekly recap 12 September 2021 [16:31] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/saturday-afternoon-random-randomness-7-17-21-32.jpg [16:32] techrights-news #google has made its malicious browser a nightmare to build/compile/branch off/fork https://bkhome.org/news/202109/fscrypt-now-works-in-user-spot.html [16:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | Fscrypt now works in user spot [16:35] techrights-news #UK splashes out 30m on improving antiquated #patent system, #Deloitte and NTT Data are the lucky winners https://www.theregister.com/2021/09/08/uk_patent_contracts/ Deloitte = #Microsoft shills: http://techrights.org/2020/11/01/covering-up-microsoft-misconduct/ [16:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | UK splashes out 30m on improving antiquated patent system, Deloitte and NTT Data are the lucky winners The Register [16:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Censorship by Microsoft at Medium and Other Web Sites (to Cover Up or Hide Microsofts Misconduct) | Techrights [16:36] techrights-news "Back in April 2020, the US Patent and Trademark Office decided that only natural persons could be considered the inventor of a patent." https://whattheythink.com/articles/107509-around-web-patent-palaver-lamp-love-street-smarts-elastic-enhancement-smart-specs-pestering-popups-verbose-vegetation-foolish-fowl-tuneful-typing-tiffany-tidbits-good-gander/ [16:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Around the Web: Patent Palaver. Lamp Love. Street Smarts. Elastic Enhancement. Smart Specs. Pestering Popups. Verbose Vegetation. Foolish Fowl. Tuneful Typing. Tiffany Tidbits. Good Gander. - WhatTheyThink [16:42] techrights-news #RaspberryPi #Firewall : #HowTo Install and Manage it by Using UFW https://linuxiac.com/raspberry-pi-firewall/ #linuxiac [16:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxiac.com | Raspberry Pi Firewall: How to Install and Manage it by Using UFW [16:51] *alextee has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Sep 12 [17:07] *alextee (~alextee@fu9znh3xmsrue.irc) has joined #techrights [17:12] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 21.65 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 4.85 swarm size (avg): 261.33 [17:14] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:14] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:16] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [17:18] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [17:19] techrights-news Eagerness to make #geminiProtocol all about user input of webforms https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007101.html https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007102.html [17:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | [tech] trailing '?' for input (was: entry field in gemtext) [17:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | [tech] trailing '?' for input (was: entry field in gemtext) [17:23] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@x6x2gkvqza8kk.irc) has joined #techrights [17:23] DaemonFC MinceR, Mexicans don't get my puns, I suppose. [17:24] DaemonFC We were at the Mexican grocery store the other day and they had a cooler with fish on ice. [17:24] DaemonFC So I took one of the stock clerks aside and I said "That's a nice cooler. I wonder if it meets the new a fish in sea standards.". [17:25] DaemonFC And he just blinked at me. [17:25] DaemonFC You try.... [17:25] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techrights [17:30] techrights-news #Git Over Gemini Protocol (and Experimental/Preliminary Publication of Some Techrights Code) http://techrights.org/2021/09/12/git-in-geminispace/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/12/git-in-geminispace/ [17:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Git Over Gemini Protocol (and Experimental/Preliminary Publication of Some Techrights Code) | Techrights [17:30] XRevan86 schestowitz: And another thing to consider: if channels were registered on Libera, they could've had ENTRYMSG with a pointer. [17:31] XRevan86 "This is an unofficial channel, please go to irc.techrights.org" or something. [17:43] DaemonFC I don't know how cities in Texas are overtaking Chicago. [17:44] DaemonFC Chicago has one of the best public transit systems in America. Maybe the best. [17:45] DaemonFC What is there in Texas? The most unreliable energy grid, 127 degree days? 60% larger cities by landmass where you can't get anywhere except in a car, so there's smog and bumper to bumper traffic? [17:45] DaemonFC I can barely stand being outside in northern Illinois on the hottest days of summer. [17:46] DaemonFC If you jack up the temperature another 30 degrees I'm going to kick someone's ass if they make me stay outside. [17:51] DaemonFC Mom was telling me about my aunt going to traffic school in the 90s. [17:51] DaemonFC She said that everyone got a printout telling them why they were sentenced to it, and most people got one page, but there was this one woman that everyone had to wait on because the printer was busy running off like 10 sheets. [17:52] DaemonFC There was one point where my aunt couldn't afford to get her plate renewed and she kept passing by this cop every day that would warn her. Finally, he said, "If I see you go by one more time with an expired plate, I'm going to write you a ticket.". [17:52] *m___ (~Adium@axe8sdwa9qgju.irc) has joined #techrights [17:53] *mib_6uy99i (~4f8f6ffc@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [17:53] DaemonFC So she asked mom to borrow the plate off the car mom and dad weren't driving very often until payday so she could go down and get hers renewed. [17:53] DaemonFC Mom said, "Okay, but if they catch you I'm going to have to say you took it off my car without asking me.". ● Sep 12 [18:08] DaemonFC schestowitz, So apparently, one of the reasons you may fail the "Windows 11 upgrade readiness" test is because you're using an old BIOS. [18:08] DaemonFC But if you update to a newer one that can run Windows 11, you risk breaking Windows, or worse, the entire computer. [18:08] DaemonFC So that's nice. [18:09] DaemonFC Lenovo shipped the ThinkBook 15 ITL Gen2 with something I'd call a beta-quality BIOS. [18:09] DaemonFC To get it out a month sooner. [18:11] DaemonFC schestowitz, Did you see that thing where China is studying building a spaceship a little over half a mile long. [18:12] DaemonFC I wonder if they'd ever build that. It should be designed to have a rotating section (von Braun wheel) for the crew, if they do. [18:13] DaemonFC I think that Babylon 5 was the first Sci Fi TV series to assume that a ship in space may have to have rotating sections if they haven't progressed far enough to control gravitation forces in some other way. [18:14] DaemonFC It was in Sci Fi books much earlier though, and Harlan Ellison wrote some of the episodes. [18:16] DaemonFC Star Trek has a long history of plagiarism, but they essentially took a script from Ellison "The City on the Edge of Forever" and rewrote it to where he almost walked away and had them put an "Alan Smithee" type credit on it. [18:16] DaemonFC MinceR, Wokeness has infected Sci Fi series that could have been a license to print money. [18:17] DaemonFC I don't think I'll even watch anymore new Terminator series movies. They've gotten so stupid since the second one. [18:18] DaemonFC John Connor and Skynet were supposed to be a closed loop paradox, but Dark Fate violated that. [18:18] DaemonFC Once such a paradox would be broken, it becomes impossible to fulfill. [18:19] DaemonFC And the only reason they trashed this was so that the savior of humanity would be a Mexican woman. [18:20] DaemonFC I think T2 was one of the better Sci Fi movie scripts for a lot of reasons. [18:20] DaemonFC Even then I appreciated their commentary on the police. [18:20] DaemonFC This evil robot comes back and immediately assumes the role of a police officer, so nobody would question it and would just mindlessly comply with any request it made. [18:21] DaemonFC "Detailed files on human psychology", indeed. [18:22] DaemonFC "Assist me in destroying your kind!" No way, get lost asshole. In police uniform: "Oh yeah, he went that way! If you hurry you can still catch him!". [18:24] DaemonFC schestowitz, All of these file compression formats are getting out of hand. [18:25] DaemonFC Daniel Aleksanderson said that only 0.5% of all web servers were reporting that they only support deflate and that 60% of web servers don't compress anything they send at all. [18:25] DaemonFC It's pretty clear that a lot of people setting one up have no idea what they're doing. [18:26] activelow not aware myself what shall be compressed at a web-server [18:26] DaemonFC I got our electric bill. This was the worst one yet. [18:26] DaemonFC $95 [18:26] DaemonFC But we had numerous 100 degree plus days, and the first couple weeks of September are much hotter than they normally are. [18:26] activelow DaemonFC: what is the price per kWh? [18:27] DaemonFC If this continues into winter, we're going to have a winter that is more like the ones you would have seen in Atlanta 30 years ago. [18:27] DaemonFC Just mildly cold and rainy. [18:27] DaemonFC DaemonFC: what is the price per kWh? [18:27] DaemonFC Eh, there's a supply and demand side, and a fixed metering fee, and taxes. [18:27] DaemonFC But I think it said we used 764 kWh or something over the billing month. [18:29] activelow DaemonFC: you are using more than three times the amount of electricity than I do [18:29] activelow DaemonFC: you are using more than three times the amount of electricity than myself [18:30] activelow consuming, alot more [18:30] DaemonFC Yeah, a lot of it is that damned air conditioner that time forgot that our landlord has in this unit. [18:30] DaemonFC They built them into the wall back in the 1970s. [18:30] DaemonFC It still works, but it's not very efficient. [18:31] activelow electritiy prices in USA seem roughly 30% of germany, very cheap electricity [18:31] DaemonFC In the winter, our bill will drop to about $45-60 a month again. [18:32] DaemonFC Illinois is awful in a lot of ways, but electricity is cheap, well, there's reasons for that. [18:32] DaemonFC It's not actually cheap. [18:32] activelow far too cheap [18:32] DaemonFC The state government has given Exelon/Communist Edison over $2 billion between the last bailout bill and the one that's about to pass. [18:32] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:32] activelow imagine if your electricity costs doubled, and even then prices would be considerably lower than german ones [18:32] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:33] DaemonFC Yeah, that would be a disaster. [18:33] DaemonFC Unless Mandy got a $1 an hour raise at work to offset it or something. [18:34] DaemonFC Whatever they say inflation is that year is what I get, and most employers and the government itself are fine with lying to understate inflation to keep wages and benefits down. [18:35] DaemonFC So they come out most years and say "inflation remains muted at only 2%", and of course your rent goes up 7%, and your food goes up 9%, and nobody can figure out this 2% thing. [18:35] activelow cannot cut down on costs here anymore [18:36] DaemonFC Subway used to have $5 footlong sandwiches, and now they're $7.99, and occasionally they send out coupons where if you buy 2-3 of them at once it works out to $5.99 each. [18:36] DaemonFC Sometimes I just go there and buy three and eat off of them for a few days. [18:37] DaemonFC In addition to liberals completely screwing up the labor market and causing mass unemployment.... [18:38] DaemonFC And raising taxes.... [18:38] DaemonFC Then they come troll restaurants that they don't even eat at and declare that the food is crap and poison because it has ingredients they can't pronounce at the parts per billion level. [18:38] DaemonFC And so everything goes to shit because of the left. [18:39] DaemonFC If you drink a glass of water (any source) it probably has more contaminants than a sandwich from Subway. [18:39] DaemonFC The type of tuna that they use isn't top shelf stuff, and anyone getting an entire sandwich that big for $5.99 should have known. [18:39] DaemonFC But it won't hurt you. [18:40] activelow two cans of baked beans, some bacon and bread is roughly 3Euros/day [18:40] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [18:41] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [18:41] DaemonFC I put a bit of bacon grease in baked beans. [18:41] DaemonFC Maybe a teaspoon or two. [18:42] activelow bread + mortadella separator meat sausage is roughly 1.5Euros/day, cannot eat this everyday [18:44] activelow best thing was, being sued when working for zero income, with IBM cited as credible source by them [18:44] DaemonFC Yeah, the doctor that costs $450 to talk to for 15 minutes says triple your grocery bill so you won't have high blood pressure. [18:44] DaemonFC America. [18:44] DaemonFC Maybe I should buy a brand new Cadillac to drive over there in so I can be more confident the car won't break down on the way to get more sage advice. [18:45] DaemonFC MinceR, ^ [18:45] activelow btw. i submitted my vote early for german national parliament election this year, two weaks early by letter [18:45] DaemonFC I try to take some of the salt out of what I cook. I really do. [18:46] activelow i invalidated the ballot, to prevent I could have made some stupid decision [18:46] DaemonFC But Mandy likes the Chinese restaurant, and I won't lie, so do I, and we both like to eat out if there's a promo going. [18:46] DaemonFC It's impossible to accurately meter your sodium intake if you eat out. [18:46] DaemonFC You have no idea what they do back there. [18:47] DaemonFC Some restaurants are saying they'll make token cuts to their sodium levels. Taco Bell has a sodium warning on everything on their menu though. [18:47] DaemonFC They could cut it 15% and it would still be pretty bad. [18:48] DaemonFC These fast food restaurants are pressuring you to get apps now. [18:49] DaemonFC They have coupons, but they'll only slip them through you in a QR code on an app or something. [18:49] DaemonFC Otherwise it's $25 for two people to eat McDonalds. [18:50] DaemonFC It's essentially a punishment for not putting an app on your phone, because you get about the same amount of food for $13 if you have an app. [18:51] DaemonFC https://wgntv.com/news/coronavirus/uk-ditches-plans-for-vaccine-passports-at-crowded-venues/ [18:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wgntv.com | UK ditches plans for vaccine passports at crowded venues | WGN-TV [18:52] DaemonFC schestowitz, If 75% of all Americans already have at least one dose of a vaccine, then why are the numbers even worse now than they were this time last year, when nobody was vaccinated and 20 million fewer people had had COVID and recovered? [18:53] DaemonFC https://wgntv.com/news/taliban-women-can-study-in-gender-segregated-universities/ [18:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wgntv.com | Taliban: Women can study in gender-segregated universities | WGN-TV [18:54] DaemonFC "I have a great idea on how to make sure there are less homosexuals. Let's put all men in one place and all women in another place.". [18:54] DaemonFC It works great in prisons! [18:55] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Sep 12 [19:09] DaemonFC https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/overall-crime-decreased-2020-united-states-report-finds-n1278938 [19:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | 'Overall crime decreased in 2020' in the United States, report finds [19:10] DaemonFC Ignore all the black people killing each other and setting their own neighborhoods and cars on fire. [19:10] DaemonFC Crime went DOWN! [19:11] DaemonFC They also didn't include Wisconsin or Illinois on their list of states. [19:11] DaemonFC Or Oregon. [19:13] DaemonFC Also, in Chicago, crime is at its worst level since 1987, if you count raw murder numbers, and the worst since the 1960s when you account for population. [19:14] DaemonFC The last time there were riots in Chicago that required calling in the army, it was black people burning and looting things, and that's why the south side has so many vacant lots today. [19:14] DaemonFC The entire area never recovered economically, and it just stayed so violent that 50 years have gone by without anyone touching it as far as investing in new buildings or something. [19:18] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:39] XRevan86 Shutting down the bridge. [19:39] *bridge has quit (connection closed) [19:47] XRevan86 MinceR: Now I can see that there aren't any actual people there. [19:52] XRevan86 Except for enyc, whoever that is. [19:54] user_ I am an actual person [19:55] XRevan86 user_: jkl? ebin? [19:57] user_ i am confused [19:57] user_ nm [19:58] MinceR enyc is someone who likes to pester people who are already on illibera to move to illibera :> [19:58] MinceR i don't know jkl or ebin [19:58] XRevan86 MinceR: Well, at least that was an actual person :). [19:58] MinceR iirc phobos does sometimes show up on the other side [19:58] XRevan86 Whatever, I casted all three. [19:58] XRevan86 MinceR: Haven't in a while. [19:59] user_ i am none of those people [19:59] user_ i am just here [19:59] XRevan86 user_: Right, I got it, just confusion over what exactly I was talking about. ● Sep 12 [20:00] MinceR lol @ that passive aggressive message from XRevan86 on leenode [20:01] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [20:01] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 21.70 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 14.90 swarm size (avg): 261.34 [20:26] MinceR XFaCE: is Tox working for you now? [20:32] *juan (~ambassador@hggjievnjyghg.irc) has joined #techrights [20:34] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:34] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:36] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [20:38] *alextee has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:38] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [20:38] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@c53pwstuh4ibn.irc) has joined #techrights [20:51] *alextee (~alextee@49t98wazbw5y8.irc) has joined #techrights ● Sep 12 [21:09] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:10] DaemonFC A bunch of Mexicans are having a parade downtown where they've completely fucked up traffic so they can drive around in stupid tricked out SUVs with the Mexican flag on them, throwing trash everywhere and shuffling around in the street. [21:11] DaemonFC Illinois can't pass a law that makes it a crime to openly wonder why these people are allowed to forget what country they're in and trash ours when more than half aren't even here legally. [21:11] DaemonFC But it would if it could. Glad we're not in Europe. [21:14] DaemonFC schestowitz, The Mexican government doesn't let you stay there unless you can prove income of $1,900 a month because it doesn't want people being drains on the state. [21:14] DaemonFC I've heard there's a way around this. [21:14] DaemonFC You can get unlimited 180 day tourist visas from the Mexican government and you don't have to prove anything. [21:15] DaemonFC You just exit the country and then come back and get your US passport stamped again on day 180. [21:15] DaemonFC But yes, even Mexico has immigration and public charge laws, and they enforce theirs. [21:15] DaemonFC Not allowed to say that though. [21:16] *juan has quit (Quit: Ambassador 1.3.0 [UXP 4.5.9/20200423223821]) [21:19] DaemonFC MinceR, It would be more cost effective for Orban to say that the illegal immigrants can't stay in Hungary, but if you'll get on these buses, we'll take you to the border between us and the people who won't pay for our fence. [21:20] *ebin (~ebin@dne4qqwj27qau.irc) has joined #techrights [21:20] DaemonFC After all, if paying for a fence isn't a priority, they won't mind these people sleeping on their couch for a while. [21:37] *rianne_ has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [21:37] *liberty_box has quit (connection closed) [21:47] MinceR DaemonFC: those aren't just "people who won't pay for our fence", those are people who want to receive and employ those immigrants [21:47] MinceR this is apparently very hard for orban's fan club to understand [21:47] MinceR orban keeps triggering them with "immigrants" while nobody with even half a brain would want to live in this shithole anyway [21:48] XRevan86 schestowitz: http://techrights.org/irc-channel/ needs adjustment. [21:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Channels | Techrights [21:49] DaemonFC Of course some people want to employ them. [21:49] DaemonFC It depresses wages because it increases unemployment. [21:49] MinceR someone who has the appropriate access (which is probably schestowitz) might want to change the topics on freenode as well [21:50] DaemonFC Which Europe already struggles with in many places, like Greece. [21:50] DaemonFC The black youth unemployment rate in Chicago is over 40%. [21:50] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: what change? [21:50] MinceR DaemonFC: there are lots of jobs the people who live in west europe don't _want_ to do [21:50] XRevan86 MinceR: Considering the aliveness of the network, that's not necessary. [21:50] DaemonFC Meanwhile, the state tells illegal immigrants to just come in here and we'll ignore whatever they do. [21:50] XRevan86 schestowitz: The bridge was put down. [21:51] DaemonFC That's not only causing wages to go down, it's leaving those young people with nothing legal to do for cash and a lot of time on their hands. [21:51] XRevan86 schestowitz: So techrights is now fully consolidated. [21:51] MinceR of course you'll ignore whatever they do when it's economically preferable to do so [21:51] activelow MinceR: unverified immigrants wanted to do them [21:51] XRevan86 Well, it was before, but now that page should reflect that. [21:52] XRevan86 MinceR, CrystalMath: I do wonder, do nicknames expire on Joseon.kr? [21:52] MinceR what's an "unverified immigrant"? "we don't know for sure whether they've immigrated or not"? [21:52] CrystalMath XRevan86: yeah it says 1 year [21:52] activelow MinceR: german population increased by millions, because of immigration, nonetheless workforce shortage is reported [21:52] DaemonFC MinceR, That's the thing. [21:52] MinceR 12 225248 [freenode2] -NickServ(services@services.joseon.kr)- Accounts that are not used anymore are subject to [21:53] DaemonFC Back when there weren't programs, my grandfather took a job digging ditches, because he had to. [21:53] activelow MinceR: it isn't verified immigrants would want to do the jobs [21:53] MinceR 12 225248 [freenode2] -NickServ(services@services.joseon.kr)- the automatic expiration, i.e. they will be deleted [21:53] MinceR 12 225248 [freenode2] -NickServ(services@services.joseon.kr)- after 365 days if not used. [21:53] MinceR dunno if this reflects an actual setting though [21:53] XRevan86 MinceR, CrystalMath: I see, so in like 11 months the channels will disappear. [21:53] DaemonFC Maybe if the government just had "enhanced" unemployment going on forever, he wouldn't have done that job, and then some asshole would have been all like "some immigrant will do it!". [21:53] activelow many do, but i doubt there is any statistical disbalance between natives and immigrants, maybe even immigrants work less than natives [21:53] schestowitz I have removed "The channels are all bridged across to our network." [21:53] *alextee has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:53] DaemonFC People would take undesirable jobs vs. no money at all, but it's not a choice they're faced with. [21:54] XRevan86 schestowitz: Why keep the mention? [21:54] schestowitz-TR legacy [21:54] schestowitz-TR I'll remove that one day... [21:54] XRevan86 schestowitz: So newcomers should know about that? [21:55] schestowitz-TR bad timing [21:55] schestowitz-TR I'm stuck with other issues atm [21:56] XRevan86 People can go to web.archive.org for legacy. [21:57] DaemonFC Illinois: "Just sit here and smoke dispensary pot all day and collect food stamps and unemployment checks. Don't worry about paying your landlord. Ryan and Mandy will do that when they get a rent hike in a few weeks.". [21:57] MinceR DaemonFC: if there really are masses of voters living in places like germany who don't want immigrants, they can make a difference with their votes [21:59] activelow the cannot, not at least the facts are known, such as population size increased alot in germany, because of immigration, with the argument this prevented workforce shortage and secured pension funds [21:59] activelow while both failed, pension funds are not secured, and workforce shortage is reported regardless of a dozen million immigrants [21:59] activelow THIS is what politicians do not say [21:59] MinceR in any case, it is not hungary's job to enforce immigration policies for other countries that the governments of those countries don't want enforced ● Sep 12 [22:00] MinceR and it is even less hungary's duty to live in constant hysteria because of alleged immigrants that don't want to live in hungary [22:00] activelow hungary is a member of the schengen agreement, to secure european borders, and this is what orban did, in compliance with EU, not in opposition to it [22:00] MinceR or to have people beat up other people because of the color of their skin or some other bullshit like that because "oh no, immigrants" [22:01] MinceR maybe we should trade places [22:01] MinceR in any case, afaik the situation with the EU regulations is not as simple as orban likes to claim [22:02] activelow wrong, it is simple: schengen agreement to allow free roaming inside EU depends on EU borders protected to the outside, this was the principle [22:02] activelow *from [22:02] activelow not saying i have any opinion on this, nonetheless this is a *fact* [22:03] activelow demographics, immigration, and social spendings data in germany are a fact too [22:03] MinceR "protected to the outside" means "build a chicken wire fence on the border and beat up the people that do get in"? [22:04] activelow and it isn't complicated either, in the last decades dozens of millions immigrated, many illegally under false pretence, population size increased (not decreased), and workforce shortage is reported [22:04] activelow because, *immigrants* don't want to do the jobs [22:04] MinceR then they can leave or starve [22:05] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: true. [22:05] schestowitz-TR I will revisit that later [22:05] schestowitz-TR maybe we'll bridge to something else.. [22:05] activelow wrong again, under the false pretence of "refugee" instead of "illegal immigration" this is legalized by "Geneva refugee convention", which you may like or not, this too is a fact [22:06] schestowitz-TR the whole situation iss frustrating [22:06] schestowitz-TR half the users of freenode never moved to what was supposed to replace it [22:06] schestowitz-TR 90k -> 46m [22:07] schestowitz-TR &k [22:07] XRevan86 schestowitz: At least some of those users were bridged puppets though. [22:07] XRevan86 the Matrix bridged users have to manually move as well [22:07] schestowitz-TR yeah... [22:08] schestowitz-TR matrix users never participated much anyway [22:08] XRevan86 schestowitz: I wonder where scientes had gone to. [22:09] schestowitz-TR yeah, one example... [22:09] *alextee (~alextee@r8gpgvx5ypb7i.irc) has joined #techrights [22:09] schestowitz-TR lots of people lost because of the 'emperor' [22:09] XRevan86 He IRC [22:09] MinceR :> [22:10] schestowitz-TR is he on some other network? [22:10] DaemonFC the cannot, not at least the facts are known, such as population size increased alot in germany, because of immigration, with the argument this prevented workforce shortage and secured pension funds [22:10] DaemonFC Our pensions are not funded and nobody works. [22:10] XRevan86 schestowitz: I just wrote "check" to scientes on Libera and got an away message o_0 [22:10] DaemonFC So we'll fix it by taking in a bunch of people from the third world that already couldn't figure out how to run a pension fund and need us to build their houses while they stare at us. [22:10] XRevan86 I guess he just isn't registered. [22:11] activelow DaemonFC: pension fund and labor market in USA and Germany differ slightly [22:11] activelow population size of USA increased more execessively than germany's [22:11] activelow good luck with that [22:12] activelow it is only a question which region collapses first [22:13] activelow theory was conflict would spread from peripheral regions into Europe (and similarly USA) into developed economic centers [22:14] activelow and after a few decades strong economies collapse, with civil war scenarios, once social security which tampered outrage ceases [22:15] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/saturday-morning-cartoons11.jpg [22:16] XRevan86 schestowitz: De-facto Libera is that legacy where all the people are that didn't move over here. [22:16] MinceR the legacy that never was [22:16] MinceR alternative history :> [22:17] XRevan86 MinceR: For the glory of his medicinal highness! [22:20] MinceR medicinal? [22:20] XRevan86 and the oldest totally still existing state [22:20] XRevan86 MinceR: How to say "drug-induced" in one word? [22:20] MinceR Joseon hasn't existed for centuries [22:20] MinceR dunno [22:21] *alextee has quit (connection closed) [22:22] XRevan86 The drug being Naruto. [22:28] DaemonFC Ehhez tbb fokhagyma kell. lelmet kszt a kutyjnak? [22:28] DaemonFC :) [22:28] DaemonFC Hopefully it got that right. [22:29] XRevan86 DaemonFC: Looks ugric. [22:29] DaemonFC Google Translate has some bad fails, but that should be Hungarian for "This needs more garlic. Are you making food for your dog?". [22:29] *activelow has quit (Quit: leaving) [22:29] DaemonFC YOu can never have enough garlic. [22:33] DaemonFC https://nbc-2.com/news/sports/2021/09/12/video-miami-fans-use-american-flag-to-catch-cat-falling-from-upper-deck-of-hard-rock-stadium/ [22:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nbc-2.com | VIDEO: Miami fans use American flag to catch cat falling from upper deck of Hard Rock Stadium - NBC2 News [22:40] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:42] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [22:44] *alextee (~alextee@r8gpgvx5ypb7i.irc) has joined #techrights [22:45] *activelow (~activelow@fpp9gt5hhpz2q.irc) has joined #techrights [22:46] MinceR the translation is correct [22:53] *alextee has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:56] DaemonFC I often double the recipe's garlic. [22:56] schestowitz-TR :-0 [22:57] DaemonFC It's really hard to go too far on that. [22:57] DaemonFC Well, with fresh garlic or minced, but with powder it's actually quite easy to go way too far. [22:57] DaemonFC Dry spices usually go 4 or 5 times further than fresh. ● Sep 12 [23:05] *inky_ (~inky@46.36.114.205) has joined #techrights [23:09] *alextee (~alextee@49t98wazbw5y8.irc) has joined #techrights [23:14] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: NOW we're om topic !! ;-) [23:18] *alextee has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:22] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [23:34] *alextee (~alextee@mk58ykzayey9s.irc) has joined #techrights [23:38] DaemonFC Matrix now bridges to Libera Chat. [23:38] DaemonFC What a mess. [23:39] DaemonFC So you can have another layer of assholes interpreting a code of conduct. [23:39] DaemonFC https://freenode.net/news/on-power-to-the-people [23:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freenode.net | On Power to the People - freenode [23:39] DaemonFC LOL [23:43] schestowitz-TR PIA [23:43] schestowitz-TR freedumbtech [23:48] XRevan86 "now" literally since June [23:49] XRevan86 DaemonFC: This post is beginning of August, how did ye miss it? [23:50] DaemonFC Because I don't pay them much attention anymore. [23:51] DaemonFC It seems the push to eliminate English in China is so that people who make it past the firewall can't read anything from countries with press freedom. [23:52] DaemonFC https://www.npr.org/2021/09/10/1035877068/a-beachfront-property-taken-from-a-black-family-a-century-ago-may-soon-be-return [23:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | Beachfront Property Taken From Black Family In 1920s May Soon Be Returned : NPR [23:53] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: seems like -social [23:53] XRevan86 DaemonFC: It's just that it was mentioned here like 10 times. [23:53] DaemonFC I'm sure that once it returns to the property tax rolls, they'll be able to hang on to it. [23:53] schestowitz-TR don't interject race issues into here [23:53] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: those blog posts never aged gracefully [23:55] schestowitz https://www.notebookcheck.net/The-Samsung-Galaxy-S21-FE-could-have-microSD-support-after-all.560867.0.html [23:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Samsung Galaxy S21 FE could have microSD support after all - NotebookCheck.net News [23:55] XRevan86 schestowitz: They seem to be of the same quality as when first released. Except that all the ambition went *poof* [23:56] schestowitz-TR Note 9 [23:56] schestowitz-TR went poof on planes, too [23:57] schestowitz https://www.ghacks.net/2021/09/10/windows-11s-file-explorer-has-serious-usability-issues/ [23:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ghacks.net | Windows 11's File Explorer has serious usability issues - gHacks Tech News [23:57] XRevan86 I expected some more great breakages, but instead literally nothing was done. [23:57] schestowitz it has worse issues than this [23:57] schestowitz does it still push ADS? [23:57] schestowitz anything to keep Service Pack '11' in some headlines? [23:57] schestowitz faked, manufactured hype [23:57] *m___ has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [23:57] schestowitz "it's coming, it's coming!" [23:58] schestowitz " The Galaxy Note 10 Lite, for example, launched with a 3.5mm jack after the Note 10 ditched the port, but it never really meant much in the long run, as Samsung still cut the headphone jack from subsequent flagship phones. "