●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, October 12, 2022 ●● ● Oct 12 [00:00] highest_cubist_thrills my take: gnome broke gtk and debian helped [00:00] highest_cubist_thrills is that what happened? idk, speculation [00:00] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:00] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:00] MinceR considering people's obsession with new versions, deadian didn't need to do anything [00:00] MinceR gtk3 being garbage is enough [00:00] highest_cubist_thrills considering people's obsession with new versions, deadian didn't need to do anything <- agreed [00:01] highest_cubist_thrills but they did anyway [00:01] highest_cubist_thrills gtk3 being garbage is enough <- this would have been the prelude [00:02] highest_cubist_thrills i should note im not entirely serious. there may be a connection but i certainly cant say for sure [00:02] highest_cubist_thrills its either a pattern or an amusing coincidence [00:02] highest_cubist_thrills either way, its debian [00:05] frog MinceR: i tried to salvage GTK3, by removing systemd/dbus clutter, because GTK3 wasn't garbage [00:06] frog the unicode font-rendering however, failed some acceptance criteria [00:08] frog and that's why, it's sad; only good news, i can live with it [00:09] frog and GTK4 added yet another, unnecessary and avoidable problem: the strong entanglement against OpenGL, which GTK3 didn't [00:10] TR News Vista 12 Vapourware is a Sign of Microsoft Struggling (Amid ~18,000 Microsoft Layoffs) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/11/vista-12-is-vapourware/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/11/vista-12-is-vapourware/ [00:10] TR Bot Vista 12 Vapourware is a Sign of Microsoft Struggling (Amid ~18,000 Microsoft Layoffs) | Techrights [00:14] frog and debian, they're fully relying on both GNU-toolchain and buildystem, which by itself got that severe issues, i saw all of it falling apart [00:14] frog with neither any upgrade path remaining, and no feasible roll-back strategy either, it's locked and blocked into any direction nowadays [00:15] frog from where i am standing [00:15] frog because, i got some minimum acceptance criteria, along the way of bootstrapping any GNU system [00:16] starstreak "I'm going to be honest with you.. I'm kinda retarded" -Alex Jones [00:16] starstreak https://yewtu.be/watch?v=2dGa3wt74pY [00:16] TR Bot Alex Jones Im kinda retarded meme - Invidious [00:16] frog and whatever conclusion may be drawn, to either follow along with minimum acceptance criteria or not, those criteria are undisputable [00:17] frog so, either criteria are complied with, then nothing remains, or criteria are violated severely, and GNU (or any other Mapple LLVM whatever) is what you get [00:18] XRevan86 MinceR: "they're allegedly running out of ammo" <- Not out of every kind of ammo. [00:19] XRevan86 "their morale is (understandably) shitty" <- Wait till ye see the mobilised Russians, their morale is in negative numbers. [00:20] TR News MakuluLinux 2022-10-05 is out http://www.makululinux.com/wp/ [00:20] TR Bot A Whole World of Possibilities [00:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-11.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-12.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [00:21] schestowitz[TR] "their morale is (understandably) shitty" <- Wait till ye see the mobilised Russians, their morale is in negative numbers. [00:21] schestowitz[TR] the unwilling recruits [00:21] XRevan86 DaemonFC: "The Russians had to pull out so fast they didn't bother sabotaging their equipment" <- Some peculiarities like abandoning perfectly functioning trucks (just drive away) suggest a strict but dysfunctional chain of command. [00:24] TR News How To: Generate an ed25519 SSH key - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=3PHfKFhvldc | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/3PHfKFhvldc [00:24] TR Bot How To: Generate an ed25519 SSH key - Invidious [00:24] highest_cubist_thrills /me was hoping XRevan86 would be here [00:25] highest_cubist_thrills what does "spocky knocky" mean literally? i think its something like "goodnight" and i dont know the cyrillic spelling [00:25] frog Dobra Noz or similar [00:26] highest_cubist_thrills but to my ears it sounds like "spocky knocky" (which of course, sounds totally made up like its not real russian, but i think it most likely is real russian) [00:26] highest_cubist_thrills its possible the person who said it was mispronouncing it also, as hes not a native speaker [00:27] highest_cubist_thrills (this actually came up in a conversation earlier, where i said that another phrase sounded like "'goodnight' in russian, but i swore id check) [00:27] highest_cubist_thrills mincer may even know this one, but i know XRevan86 will [00:28] psydruid [00:28] highest_cubist_thrills thats goodnight? [00:28] psydruid yes [00:28] highest_cubist_thrills but how is it pronounced? [00:29] XRevan86 highest_cubist_thrills: "spocky knocky" <- It's real but it's not proper. A deliberate mispronunciation to sound cute. [00:29] highest_cubist_thrills A deliberate mispronunciation to sound cute <- there we go [00:29] highest_cubist_thrills im not surprised at all, i even suspected it [00:29] starstreak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mPazYL5Nks [00:29] TR Bot https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=3mPazYL5Nks [00:29] TR Bot timed out after 10000 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=3mPazYL5Nks ) [00:29] highest_cubist_thrills how would you say it properly (or closer to it) [00:30] XRevan86 > (23:28:03) psydruid: [00:30] psydruid "Spakajnoj nochi", I think [00:30] highest_cubist_thrills okay [00:30] highest_cubist_thrills cool, thank you both [00:30] XRevan86 "Sp(a|o)kynoy nochi" [00:30] highest_cubist_thrills /me averages those together since he cant pronounce either [00:31] XRevan86 highest_cubist_thrills: psydruid is incorrect with the second "a", it's a stressed "o" instead. [00:31] psydruid XRevan86 knows better, obviously [00:31] highest_cubist_thrills i mean i think i CAN pronounced "Spakajnoj nochi", but saying that like is another thing [00:31] TR News Microsoft is sacking about 10% of its staff while Windows usage drops to new lows and President Biden tries to bail out the company http://techrights.org/2022/10/11/vista-12-is-vapourware/ [00:31] TR Bot Vista 12 Vapourware is a Sign of Microsoft Struggling (Amid ~18,000 Microsoft Layoffs) | Techrights [00:31] highest_cubist_thrills XRevan86 knows better, obviously <- yeah but an approximation i can understand is a plus [00:32] psydruid the problem with Russian is that it's not fully phonetic [00:32] highest_cubist_thrills most languages arent [00:32] highest_cubist_thrills i mean, im not trying to impress a russian [00:32] TR News (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/today_s_howtos.3.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/today_s_howtos.3.gmi [00:32] TR Bot Tux Machines today's howtos [00:32] highest_cubist_thrills im just trying to sound like less of a muppet [00:32] TR News (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/Programming_Leftovers.gmi [00:32] TR Bot Tux Machines Programming Leftovers [00:32] psydruid not like Ukrainian, Serbian or Hindi mostly are [00:32] XRevan86 In literary (standard) Russian per vowel reduction an unstressed "o" is pronounced like a schwa, so "Spokojnoj" "Spakojnoj". [00:33] highest_cubist_thrills at any rate, between the two of you, i have a pretty good idea what was trying to figure out [00:33] highest_cubist_thrills so im happy [00:33] highest_cubist_thrills and even if i cant pronounce it, xrevan more or less confirms what youre saying which is great [00:34] frog it's a sounding in the middle in between of a and o, as many other saxons pronounce it, and the reason why skandinavians introduced special glyphs for that (absent in german) [00:34] highest_cubist_thrills and now i have SOME idea what the real thing sounds like too [00:34] XRevan86 The thing about vowel reduction is that under a different context the original vowel can still pop up, just like in "spoh-kee noh-kee", where it's still an "o", because stressed this time. [00:35] highest_cubist_thrills so spocky knocky would be like when english speakers say "nighty night" [00:35] highest_cubist_thrills meaning goodnight [00:35] XRevan86 highest_cubist_thrills: Yes, but even more informal. [00:35] XRevan86 Crank that informalness to the max :) [00:35] highest_cubist_thrills nighty night is pretty informal. youd never say it to the president for example [00:35] frog in german it's spuck, from spit, and noch is nach and nacht the night [00:35] frog don't know, why spuck is differen, maybe the good-night kiss [00:36] highest_cubist_thrills like if you got off the phone youd say "goodnight mr president" if it was nighttime and you knew him but you were of a low enouguh rank [00:36] psydruid spit to welcome the night [00:36] frog and kiss is the same as kissen = the pillow and the kiss [00:36] highest_cubist_thrills but you woudlnt ever say "nighty night" unless you were probably his wife or kids [00:37] highest_cubist_thrills you could say it to a close friend or a youtube audience [00:37] highest_cubist_thrills which is where i know the phrase "spocky knocky" [00:37] schestowitz[TR] what's left of it [00:37] schestowitz[TR] (youtube audience) [00:37] schestowitz[TR] from what I hear, youtube audience is becoming scarce [00:37] psydruid "may this be your last quiet night, mr president" [00:37] schestowitz[TR] google pivots into mainstream relevision now [00:37] highest_cubist_thrills youtubes dying too? shucks! [00:38] highest_cubist_thrills just in time for halloween [00:38] schestowitz[TR] no [00:38] schestowitz[TR] the original creators are [00:38] schestowitz[TR] many leave/flee/barely post anymorer [00:38] highest_cubist_thrills google didnt create youtube [00:38] highest_cubist_thrills it was a purchase [00:38] schestowitz[TR] gulag used to al;locate some capital to encouage their work [00:38] highest_cubist_thrills two guys created it [00:38] schestowitz[TR] yes [00:38] schestowitz[TR] with help of users [00:38] schestowitz[TR] they made the platform [00:38] schestowitz[TR] at first it was lots of ripoffs from TV (segments) [00:38] schestowitz[TR] later they had many originals [00:39] highest_cubist_thrills the first video was someone at the zoo [00:39] schestowitz[TR] with a platform of convenience [00:39] highest_cubist_thrills it was very much like a hello world post, except random [00:40] TR News (NEW): Initial release of pg_enquo, a queryable encryption extension for PostgreSQL http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/Initial_release_of_pg_enquo_a_queryable_encryption_extension_fo.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/Initial_release_of_pg_enquo_a_queryable_encryption_extension_fo.gmi [00:40] TR Bot Tux Machines Initial release of pg_enquo, a queryable encryption extension for PostgreSQL [00:40] starstreak Team America! Fuck yeah! [00:40] schestowitz[TR] youtube 2000s: two guys [00:41] schestowitz[TR] youtube later 2000s: two girls (and a cup (never watch it btw) [00:41] schestowitz[TR] youtube 2010: gulagtube [00:41] schestowitz[TR] youtube 2015: de facto monoply [00:41] schestowitz[TR] 2020: censorship platform [00:41] schestowitz[TR] 2022: ads [00:41] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:42] starstreak 2024: your mom [00:42] psydruid 2022: exodus to odyssee, rumble, locals, peertube etc. [00:42] schestowitz[TR] "no, mom, DON'T" [00:42] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #techrights [00:42] schestowitz[TR] psydruid: maybe [00:42] schestowitz[TR] but they too lack a business model [00:42] schestowitz[TR] see vimeop, liveleaks [00:42] schestowitz[TR] binchute [00:43] schestowitz[TR] they strugle financially [00:43] starstreak peertube is great, it has reptilian conspiracy videos [00:43] schestowitz[TR] youtube like many other web things did not sell as a profitable thing [00:43] starstreak the stuff that gets banned on youtube [00:43] schestowitz[TR] same for gitlab and github [00:43] schestowitz[TR] they lose money [00:43] highest_cubist_thrills bye, youtube [00:43] schestowitz[TR] some founders make SOME money for selling [00:43] schestowitz[TR] along with shareholders [00:43] schestowitz[TR] it's a bubble [00:43] schestowitz[TR] spotify=layoffs [00:43] schestowitz[TR] netflix= layoffs [00:43] schestowitz[TR] clownflare=losses, maybe layoffs too (did not check) [00:43] highest_cubist_thrills spotify=layoffs <- spotty knocky [00:43] psydruid maybe there shouldn't be a(n easily realisable) business model [00:44] schestowitz[TR] right [00:44] schestowitz[TR] psydruid: see the discussion in #boycottnovell today [00:44] schestowitz[TR] iirc, tiktok loses money [00:44] schestowitz[TR] but the parent company is a chinese spy [00:44] highest_cubist_thrills if youtube fell apart people would use vimeo (garbage) and tiktok (more likely) and internet archive (if they were serious) but the archives indexing SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKS [00:44] schestowitz[TR] that does "HEY HI" and data mining [00:45] schestowitz[TR] so the ultimate goal seems to be social control [00:45] schestowitz[TR] and 'brain farming' [00:45] highest_cubist_thrills internet archive only works if you have a second website to help you FIND shit there [00:45] highest_cubist_thrills with youtube you get both (and the costs of it being the same people) [00:45] schestowitz[TR] true [00:45] schestowitz[TR] actually youtube got a lot worse [00:45] schestowitz[TR] it used to give good results [00:45] schestowitz[TR] now it does not [00:45] schestowitz[TR] by design [00:45] schestowitz[TR] because it tries to maximise "engagement" and ads [00:45] schestowitz[TR] screentime [00:46] schestowitz[TR] and brainwash quotient [00:46] highest_cubist_thrills the front page of youtube, a few years ago (the last time i went there) was one of the dumbest things ive ever seen [00:46] schestowitz[TR] so results contain totally unrelated stuff (to the query) [00:46] schestowitz[TR] and are ranked not for relevance at all [00:46] schestowitz[TR] I hear the same is true for Google Search [00:46] highest_cubist_thrills #1 tip to make youtube look less stupid: NEVER NEVER NEVER go to the front page [00:46] schestowitz[TR] yes, rianne does it [00:46] highest_cubist_thrills i always use a search [00:47] schestowitz[TR] I told her that Google decides for her what she puts in her head [00:47] highest_cubist_thrills but also i use invidious [00:47] schestowitz[TR] instead of people controlling computers [00:47] psydruid the stuff promoted as trending is utter garbage [00:47] schestowitz[TR] it's some corporations controlling people via computers [00:47] psydruid on the main YouTube page, that is [00:47] starstreak rise up! [00:47] highest_cubist_thrills it's some corporations controlling people via computers <- same as television [00:47] psydruid but I never go there [00:47] schestowitz[TR] highest_cubist_thrills: yes, exactly [00:47] highest_cubist_thrills rise up! <- rise up sold out [00:48] schestowitz[TR] RiseUp [00:48] highest_cubist_thrills <- former rise up member [00:48] starstreak Riseup.net [00:48] highest_cubist_thrills yeah, them [00:48] highest_cubist_thrills part of the coup [00:48] starstreak former member, why? [00:48] schestowitz[TR] what ever happened to cryptome? [00:48] schestowitz[TR] I asked a month ago, did not check much [00:48] schestowitz[TR] it seems to have become inactive like wikileaks [00:49] schestowitz[TR] sedating the "opposition" to the establishment [00:49] schestowitz[TR] today in LWN they covered sofwtare patents [00:49] schestowitz[TR] a top comment asked if EFF would help [00:49] highest_cubist_thrills absorbition [00:49] highest_cubist_thrills eff the eff [00:49] schestowitz[TR] as if they didn't pay attention to what happened to EFF [00:49] schestowitz[TR] EFF barely even mentions patents anymore [00:49] schestowitz[TR] like it's not important [00:49] highest_cubist_thrills eff barely ever mentioned them? [00:50] schestowitz[TR] they mentioned them since 2005 or thereabouts in patent busting [00:50] frog most patents should have expired already [00:50] schestowitz[TR] that campaigning evolved over the years [00:50] schestowitz[TR] lobbying congress, helping against trolls etc. [00:50] highest_cubist_thrills the biggest threats ive seen in 15 years were acta, tpp and certain people being appointed to lead the patent office [00:50] psydruid the first rule of the eff'ing eff is: don't talk about the eff'ing eff at the eff'ing eff [00:50] schestowitz[TR] frog: most patents are already expired [00:50] highest_cubist_thrills of course i pay a bit less attention to europe [00:51] schestowitz[TR] so does the eff [00:51] highest_cubist_thrills the first rule of the eff'ing eff is: don't talk about the eff'ing eff at the eff'ing eff <- the eff you say [00:51] schestowitz[TR] except when it comes to copyright in eu [00:51] starstreak highest_cubist_thrills, what would you do if Theo De Raadt signed? [00:51] schestowitz[TR] because gulag, an eff sponsor, has a stake in the outcome [00:51] schestowitz[TR] eff has europe coordinator [00:51] highest_cubist_thrills highest_cubist_thrills, what would you do if Theo De Raadt signed? <- i dont know, what would you do if neil patrick harris was a nazi? [00:51] schestowitz[TR] I asked doctorow why they don't cover epo and patenrt in europe [00:51] schestowitz[TR] he said he would asked the coordinator [00:52] schestowitz[TR] of course nothing happened [00:52] schestowitz[TR] eff= usefles [00:52] schestowitz[TR] *useless [00:52] highest_cubist_thrills i like theo de raadt because he has better shit to do. [00:52] starstreak highest_cubist_thrills, a gay nazi like dfc? im not sure, i definately wouldn't fuck his dick off [00:52] highest_cubist_thrills :) [00:52] schestowitz[TR] dfc is not "nazi" [00:53] schestowitz[TR] overusing the term cheapens it [00:53] starstreak hes into eugenics [00:53] schestowitz[TR] and distracts from real nazis [00:53] schestowitz[TR] starstreak: so were many americans [00:53] schestowitz[TR] before ww2 [00:53] schestowitz[TR] some are still into it [00:53] starstreak nazism was pretty popular in the US before ww2 as well [00:53] highest_cubist_thrills dfc is a racist who supports eugenics at both the birth and execution end of the whole thing. [00:53] highest_cubist_thrills thats close enough to nazi for me, and i prefer to be technical about it. [00:54] highest_cubist_thrills in other words, i prefer to JUSTIFY using the word and be specific about why its being used. [00:54] highest_cubist_thrills "a racist who supports eugenics at both the birth and execution end" is basically a nazi. [00:54] highest_cubist_thrills what else would it take? [00:54] schestowitz[TR] lowering the standards for the term makes it less useful, renders it meaningless [00:54] schestowitz[TR] like ADL did with "antisemite" [00:54] highest_cubist_thrills thats the whole goddamned premise of the third reich. [00:54] highest_cubist_thrills the whole thing [00:55] schestowitz[TR] not really [00:55] highest_cubist_thrills minus "jews run" yeah, but still the outcome was the same [00:55] starstreak schestowitz[TR], hes either a nazi or a fascist [00:55] schestowitz[TR] german nazi party was not a single policy party [00:55] highest_cubist_thrills not reall <- well i hope mjg calls you a nazi apologist now. personally i just think youre an idiot. [00:55] schestowitz[TR] fascist was the term used for italy at the time [00:55] frog however, it wasn't invented by the third reich, even when they then enjoyed citing from the catechism they were lectured elsewhere _before_ they gained power [00:55] schestowitz[TR] and it's something about state and corporations [00:55] schestowitz[TR] he's not a fascist either [00:55] schestowitz[TR] and he did voter biden btw [00:55] schestowitz[TR] *vote [00:56] starstreak schestowitz[TR], you're a daemonfc apologist [00:56] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:56] *Noisytoot has quit (Excess Flood) [00:56] schestowitz[TR] i'm amazed at how some people cheapen terms [00:56] schestowitz[TR] like the media did "antivaxx" [00:56] frog highest_cubist_thrills: you might be surprised, where the spiritual roots lead to, and i wouldn't need to city any publication from nazis for this [00:56] schestowitz[TR] and we're meant to think this channel is 'right wing' [00:56] highest_cubist_thrills i'm amazed at how some people cheapen terms <- your hypocrisy here is at a peak, even for you [00:56] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #techrights [00:56] starstreak apologist "a person who offers an argument in defense of something controversial." [00:56] schestowitz[TR] the same spin was used against wikileaks [00:56] schestowitz[TR] completely false narrative [00:56] highest_cubist_thrills i dont think youre capable of being much more full of shit than this. but its you, so... [00:57] schestowitz[TR] like spamnil calling me "trump" [00:57] frog what terms would you prefer then? Gojim, Kulak, which one? [00:57] starstreak daemonfc always says controversial things and Roy is always defending it, that is textbook apolgism [00:57] highest_cubist_thrills calling someone a nazi for supporting a CORE TENET of the third reich isnt out of bounds or unreasonable [00:57] schestowitz[TR] i don't defend what he says [00:57] frog Muslims like to call them Dhimmi (fom Dumm, stupid) [00:57] schestowitz[TR] but his right to be an a-hole [00:57] frog there's many translations for this [00:57] schestowitz[TR] because we don't want irckkop [00:57] schestowitz[TR] it's not good for debating discourse [00:58] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot) has joined #techrights [00:58] schestowitz[TR] if we did this, starstreak, you too would get banned [00:58] schestowitz[TR] you recalled tim wilson banning you [00:58] schestowitz[TR] I think for the whole "freemason" thing [00:58] starstreak i did get banned before [00:58] schestowitz[TR] not by me [00:58] starstreak and i never said racist or transphobic shit, just conspiracies [00:58] schestowitz[TR] not with my knowledge, either [00:59] starstreak you watched him do it [00:59] starstreak i got the log [00:59] schestowitz[TR] wilson did tell me that you had some strange theories about hive minds, neanderthals etc. [00:59] highest_cubist_thrills i mean she talks about them here [00:59] schestowitz[TR] btw, unless you are from cubsaharan africa, you have about 2% neanderthal genes in you [00:59] schestowitz[TR] owing to inbreeding, interbreeding [00:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 12.81 k/sec., IPFS upstream 110.16 average k/sec., average swarm size 126.71 [00:59] schestowitz[TR] even in east asia [00:59] highest_cubist_thrills she already said she has neanderthal genes-- in here-- today [00:59] schestowitz[TR] based on the work of the geneticist who just won nobel prize ● Oct 12 [01:00] highest_cubist_thrills so youre telling her what she already knows [01:00] schestowitz[TR] right, but the conspiracy stuff is outright insane [01:00] starstreak its my religion [01:00] schestowitz[TR] like all this "reptilian" thing, people living underground, neanderthal still being around... [01:00] schestowitz[TR] religion as code for legitimate insanity [01:01] starstreak just as insane as any other religious person [01:01] frog it's not a conspiracy, because it's not secret [01:01] starstreak we are all living inside of a simulation [01:01] highest_cubist_thrills thats at least metaphorically true [01:01] frog i mean, the moment when people began decorating themselves with badges to identify their vaccination status allowing them to visit restaurants and shopping malls? [01:02] highest_cubist_thrills though im surprised people take it so seriously/literally [01:02] starstreak ok well im gonna stop trashing dfc [01:02] highest_cubist_thrills its a pretty cheap interpretation of the idea that the universe is hologramatic in structure [01:02] schestowitz[TR] starstreak: poor reasoning of, many people believe in fiction, so I too am allowed to promote fiction [01:02] XRevan86 At least most other religious people have upbringing to blame, and their religion is more metaphysical than literal neanderthals underground. [01:02] frog what was this? some secret conspiracy, or an outright totalitarian dictate of governments, orchestrated from RAND corp USA or elsewhere [01:03] schestowitz[TR] it's not a secret that "USA" controls most of the world [01:03] highest_cubist_thrills that the universe is hologramatic in structure <- which you do get into in various brands of mysticism [01:03] schestowitz[TR] not sure RAND is a good placeholder for it [01:03] starstreak as the freemasons say, "as above, so below" [01:03] schestowitz[TR] you can see out in the open who does the colonialism [01:03] starstreak its a shame phanes isn't around [01:03] highest_cubist_thrills as the freemasons say, "as above, so below" <- i mean theyre not the only ones who say that [01:03] frog schestowitz[TR]: it probably is, although some of this type of "think tank" "work" may be kept secret [01:03] starstreak highest_cubist_thrills, yeah its code for underground neanderthaller hive minds [01:03] highest_cubist_thrills the entire greek side of the kabbalistic school says that [01:03] schestowitz[TR] DAVOS has WEF [01:04] schestowitz[TR] there are less public meetings around there too [01:04] highest_cubist_thrills and thats filtered out into various other systems [01:04] schestowitz[TR] and we know the attendees [01:04] schestowitz[TR] we know what they want [01:04] schestowitz[TR] and some of their decisions [01:04] schestowitz[TR] and they don't care if we know [01:04] schestowitz[TR] "what are you gonna do about it, PUNK? [01:04] highest_cubist_thrills yeah its code for underground neanderthaller hive minds <- i guess thats one interpretation [01:05] starstreak as above = human society, so below = underground society [01:05] highest_cubist_thrills its a shame phanes isn't around <- if you were a mason and knew the right hand thing, you could maybe get him here [01:05] schestowitz[TR] they have their n networking, parties, links etc. [01:05] highest_cubist_thrills and you could be because they allow trans women [01:05] schestowitz[TR] and they coordinate meetings, lobbying, decisions, draft bills [01:05] highest_cubist_thrills and trans men [01:05] starstreak highest_cubist_thrills, not always [01:05] highest_cubist_thrills not always [01:05] highest_cubist_thrills and youre very anti-mason which-- obviously thats a dealbreaker for them [01:05] starstreak highest_cubist_thrills, they allow trans women to stay freemasons if they were a freemason before transition [01:06] schestowitz[TR] those are a tiny minority [01:06] schestowitz[TR] even more of a minority in that "class" [01:06] highest_cubist_thrills if they were a freemason before transition <- ah, appreciate the clarification [01:06] schestowitz[TR] how many of the richest 1% are trans? [01:06] highest_cubist_thrills thats good to know [01:06] schestowitz[TR] like 0.001%? [01:06] highest_cubist_thrills what i read didnt go into that level of detail [01:06] schestowitz[TR] so it's a token "tolernace" [01:06] schestowitz[TR] for PR purposes [01:06] highest_cubist_thrills or i missed it [01:06] schestowitz[TR] under their "D&I" page [01:06] schestowitz[TR] but it's not alike antone trans has any leverage in davod [01:06] schestowitz[TR] *davos [01:07] schestowitz[TR] just token ones [01:07] starstreak highest_cubist_thrills, i actually like the freemasons and have respect for them, but at the same time there was a coup by the illuminati [01:07] schestowitz[TR] of course most are white and male, too [01:07] schestowitz[TR] but they don't present it like this in davos [01:07] highest_cubist_thrills but at the same time there was a coup by the illuminati <- they deny this, so [01:07] highest_cubist_thrills but they would of course! [01:07] schestowitz[TR] like mormons with token african americans [01:07] schestowitz[TR] for optics [01:07] highest_cubist_thrills but they would also deny it if it were untrue too. [01:07] starstreak highest_cubist_thrills, i would love to be in the OTO [01:08] highest_cubist_thrills mormons with token african americans <- as far as i know, any black person CAN become mormon [01:08] highest_cubist_thrills something about a church that USED TO deny black members because "god cursed them with black skin as a punishment" doesnt exactly draw them in by the millions. [01:08] starstreak there are a number of magick societies that are pretty cool [01:08] starstreak OTO is one of them [01:08] highest_cubist_thrills not to mention their standing among most christians is understandably fucked [01:09] highest_cubist_thrills so there arent many black people who join the mormons-- but why the hell would they [01:09] highest_cubist_thrills i assume if the klan said "fuck it-- all are welcome!" most black people wouldnt join them either. [01:10] schestowitz[TR] yeah [01:10] schestowitz[TR] here in the UK it's the same [01:10] schestowitz[TR] EDL dound some "south asia n "useful idiots" [01:10] schestowitz[TR] to paint a false image of EDL [01:10] schestowitz[TR] apropos uk, [01:11] schestowitz[TR] earlier you said you wish XRevan86 was here [01:11] highest_cubist_thrills because i had a question about russian [01:11] schestowitz[TR] he's smart enough to know usa and even uk aren't that attractive anymore [01:11] highest_cubist_thrills also he was here [01:11] schestowitz[TR] esp. for immigrants [01:11] schestowitz[TR] esp. from RUSHA [01:11] highest_cubist_thrills i left the usa to go to the uk and i doubt id bother going back to the uk [01:12] schestowitz[TR] from what my sister tells me, USA is "***" [01:12] schestowitz[TR] to live in [01:12] schestowitz[TR] and now [01:12] schestowitz[TR] like, 2022 [01:12] schestowitz[TR] not 90s [01:12] schestowitz[TR] it was nice when I was there in the 90s [01:12] highest_cubist_thrills its all relative [01:12] MinceR yes, if you replace every character with an asterisk, USA indeed becomes *** :> [01:12] schestowitz[TR] but I was young and naive too [01:12] highest_cubist_thrills id much rather be in the usa than the ukraine [01:12] schestowitz[TR] in 2006 they already had all that fingerprinting shit [01:12] highest_cubist_thrills not everyone in canada (or the uk) would rather be in either of those places [01:12] schestowitz[TR] I've not flown there since [01:13] highest_cubist_thrills fwiw i think being anywhere with such abysmal health insurance is NUTS [01:13] highest_cubist_thrills but so would be moving to china or africa [01:13] schestowitz[TR] africa has some nice places [01:13] schestowitz[TR] not many [01:13] schestowitz[TR] but some [01:13] MinceR afaict every place on earth has its issues [01:13] schestowitz[TR] usually the islands [01:13] schestowitz[TR] MinceR: more so now [01:13] MinceR some of them have advantages too [01:13] schestowitz[TR] even scandinavia [01:14] schestowitz[TR] techuser is offline [01:14] MinceR the USA has the second amendment, for example [01:14] schestowitz[TR] he probably lost his power [01:14] schestowitz[TR] after all those bombings [01:14] schestowitz[TR] one truck bomb [01:14] schestowitz[TR] and now the whole of ukraine is bombed [01:14] schestowitz[TR] was it worth it? [01:14] schestowitz[TR] MinceR: that amedement puts you at risk, too [01:15] schestowitz[TR] 2nd am: the right of all your enemies to have tools that make murder more efficient [01:15] schestowitz[TR] the proponents: BUT THE GOVERNMENT [01:15] schestowitz[TR] well, the gov. has nukes [01:15] schestowitz[TR] or "tactical" bombs [01:16] schestowitz[TR] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_MOVE_bombing [01:16] TR Bot 1985 MOVE bombing - Wikipedia [01:16] schestowitz[TR] MOVE: we have firearms!! [01:17] schestowitz[TR] Gov: lol, we'll set y'all on fire, motherfuckers, we have aircrafts [01:17] schestowitz[TR] " Two explosive devices were dropped by a police helicopter on a bunker-like cubicle on the roof of the house that was occupied by MOVE, causing a fire which the Philadelphia Fire Department subsequently let burn out of control, destroying 61 previously evacuated neighboring houses over two city blocks, and leaving 250 people homeless" [01:17] highest_cubist_thrills where was esr to defend them? [01:17] MinceR 12 021518 < schestowitz[TR]> 2nd am: the right of all your enemies to have tools that make murder more efficient [01:17] highest_cubist_thrills idk [01:17] highest_cubist_thrills hes kind of a dick [01:17] MinceR guess what, every government has them [01:17] schestowitz[TR] yerah [01:18] MinceR also, when you make laws banning people from arming themselves, guess who will violate those laws [01:18] schestowitz[TR] *yeah [01:18] schestowitz[TR] and nobody with 2and am can buy comanche or apache helicopter [01:18] schestowitz[TR] they're not on sale to civilians [01:18] MinceR that's the sad part [01:18] schestowitz[TR] you can mount a big fucking machine gun [01:18] schestowitz[TR] that fires like 3000 rounds per minute [01:18] MinceR but getting to keep an AR-15 without being bothered by the government for it is a start [01:18] schestowitz[TR] and shoot people from above while moving fast [01:19] highest_cubist_thrills and nobody with 2and am can buy comanche or apache helicopte <- whats REALLY bullshit is they wont even sell them to comanches or apaches! [01:19] MinceR :> [01:19] schestowitz[TR] they just call them aftr victims of genoice [01:19] schestowitz[TR] just to troll then [01:19] schestowitz[TR] *them [01:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-11.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-12.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [01:20] schestowitz[TR] https://yewtu.be/watch?v=AEu9LLQpOF8 [01:20] TR Bot 1 Million rounds per minute gun. - Invidious [01:22] highest_cubist_thrills but getting to keep an AR-15 without being bothered by the government for it is a start <- the fact is [01:22] highest_cubist_thrills by the time theres a true legit use for people to have shit like that [01:22] highest_cubist_thrills theyll be far past caring about the legality of it [01:22] schestowitz[TR] https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ICsujYpRI8A [01:22] TR Bot 30mm Apache Gun - Invidious [01:22] highest_cubist_thrills and there will be too many people to collect them all [01:24] frog most won't have access to clean water long before any rifle could protect their lifes [01:24] schestowitz[TR] https://yewtu.be/watch?v=_VvXXtT3HoU [01:24] TR Bot US Testing Its Monstrously Powerful $500 Million Rail Gun - Invidious [01:24] schestowitz[TR] range is huge [01:25] frog and for hunting, automatic rifles are a waste of resources and ammo [01:25] frog add to this: weight to carry, once most of them run out of gasoline to drive their pickups with a ton of ammo to the range [01:26] frog and ammo cannot be eaten either, so whatever they stockpile, it's a huge waste of storage space too, to hoard any amount of required ammunition, instead of water, food and toilet paper [01:27] schestowitz[TR] use spud guns [01:27] schestowitz[TR] they double up as potatoo chips ;-) [01:27] schestowitz[TR] *potato [01:27] schestowitz[TR] anyway, the paranoid west and russia spent lots of capital on weapons [01:28] schestowitz[TR] instead of basics [01:28] MinceR highest_cubist_thrills: it's nice to be prepared [01:28] schestowitz[TR] like food, shelter, infra [01:28] frog as far as hunting was concerned, i would rather enjoy wild-life as it is with binoculars, this doesn't require carrying any gun wherever [01:28] highest_cubist_thrills mincer: of course [01:28] schestowitz[TR] because they worry another superpower would take over by froce [01:28] frog not sure, if there was any hunting opportunities remaining, in USA or elsewhere, to stockiple billions of rounds for this [01:29] schestowitz[TR] US media cobditioned people to think of apocalypse [01:29] schestowitz[TR] there is aa whole industry benefiting from this conditioning [01:30] MinceR at least it won't catch people by surprise [01:30] schestowitz[TR] rather than apocalypse there will be rot [01:30] schestowitz[TR] more and more people fallen into debt, homelessness, misery [01:30] MinceR yeah, human bodies will rot [01:30] schestowitz[TR] while prosperity moved elsehere since decades agp [01:30] frog i consider apocalypse as a mass social event a distraction too, i don't think there would be any event which would kill _everyone_ equally [01:31] MinceR there will be [01:31] frog it's probably a long-term degeneration and decline of civil society, education, health and living standards [01:31] MinceR it will be the event that kills the last human, by definition [01:31] schestowitz[TR] that's not apocalypse [01:31] schestowitz[TR] it's not another species gone [01:31] MinceR sure it is [01:31] highest_cubist_thrills usa conflates the end of capitalism with the end of the worl [01:31] MinceR the species is Homo sapiens [01:32] schestowitz[TR] the other day I studied uk mortality data [01:32] schestowitz[TR] more specifically england and wales [01:32] highest_cubist_thrills so people will be equally afraid of both [01:32] highest_cubist_thrills thats conditioning [01:32] schestowitz[TR] you can really see not many people have kids anymore [01:32] schestowitz[TR] total mortality of kids under 1 fell [01:32] schestowitz[TR] because there aren't many kids under 1 [01:32] schestowitz[TR] who would "make a baby" in 2021 and 2022? [01:33] highest_cubist_thrills /me has a feeling the birth rates wont reflect what roy is saying [01:33] schestowitz[TR] forget about covid-19 and focus just on cost of living [01:33] highest_cubist_thrills i think think of plenty of reason why the rate could go up or down [01:33] schestowitz[TR] and prospects for a next generation [01:33] highest_cubist_thrills as if people are totally rational about starting families in some fantasy [01:33] schestowitz[TR] highest_cubist_thrills: let me get some authoritative source..... [01:34] highest_cubist_thrills sure i mean its possible [01:34] schestowitz[TR] techuser is not off the mark entirely [01:34] highest_cubist_thrills but people are going to continue reproducing [01:34] schestowitz[TR] kids become a burden on parents [01:34] highest_cubist_thrills thats nothing new [01:34] schestowitz[TR] they used to make kids to serve as insurance policy [01:34] schestowitz[TR] of "continuity" or class vanity [01:34] highest_cubist_thrills they still do that [01:35] schestowitz[TR] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12259952/ [01:35] TR Bot Why is Britain's population now declining? - PubMed [01:35] highest_cubist_thrills i mean there are simply more factors than your narrative covers by far [01:35] schestowitz[TR] 1977 [01:35] highest_cubist_thrills the conclusion may be accurate but you get there is pretty slapdash [01:35] DaemonFC I've been deep cleaning. Tracking down the source of any foul odors. [01:35] schestowitz[TR] one year ago: https://www.smf.co.uk/baby-shortage-could-spell-economic-stagnation-for-uk/ [01:35] TR Bot Baby shortage could spell economic stagnation for UK - Social Market Foundation. [01:35] DaemonFC We're about to be sealed in for the winter and nobody likes smelly garbage can. [01:35] schestowitz[TR] ""Birth rates in Britain are on the decline. In 2020, the total fertility rate (TFR) the number of children per woman stood at 1.58 in England & Wales, almost half the post-World War Two peak of 2.93. The recent decline in fertility is even more pronounced in Scotland, where the TFR is 1.29. [01:36] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR]: "Baby shortage" [01:36] DaemonFC LOL [01:36] schestowitz[TR] 1.29 is almost as low as ssingapore pre-pendemic [01:36] highest_cubist_thrills okay, so thats one datapoint [01:36] schestowitz[TR] it was 0.7 iirc [01:36] schestowitz[TR] singapore is unfit for kids [01:36] DaemonFC The fertility rate in the US is lower than in the UK. [01:36] highest_cubist_thrills how about 2021, 2022 [01:36] schestowitz[TR] tiny apartments and high cost of living [01:36] highest_cubist_thrills how about outside the uk [01:36] DaemonFC Despite everything the Catholics have done to attack our human rights. [01:36] highest_cubist_thrills idk, i mean [01:36] highest_cubist_thrills if you choose the right data... [01:36] highest_cubist_thrills and you may be right [01:36] highest_cubist_thrills its just-- your narrative covers a small part of reality [01:36] DaemonFC mjg59_: "Under those standards, I would be considered Catholic." [01:36] schestowitz[TR] "" [01:37] schestowitz[TR] Since the early 1970s, the TFR has been below the critical replacement rate of 2.1 children. The SMF said that depending on the scale of immigration and trends in life expectancy, the UK could see its population shrinking in the 21st Century. [01:37] schestowitz[TR] "Since the early 1970s, the TFR has been below the critical replacement rate of 2.1 children. The SMF said that depending on the scale of immigration and trends in life expectancy, the UK could see its population shrinking in the 21st Century. [01:37] schestowitz[TR] " [01:37] DaemonFC "You have picked up a cursed object." [01:37] highest_cubist_thrills like when mjg talks about california according to dfc, or when dfc talks about black people. [01:37] schestowitz[TR] they pretend it is a crisis [01:37] highest_cubist_thrills im not saying youre being a bigot [01:37] schestowitz[TR] in japan they just import workers or use robotics [01:37] highest_cubist_thrills just that your data is... [01:37] DaemonFC California is a fucking disaster. [01:37] schestowitz[TR] so it's a non--issue [01:37] highest_cubist_thrills your argument is... i mean, narrow [01:37] DaemonFC Bringing in immigrants is fine. We have to watch out who we bring in. [01:37] DaemonFC That they're not just here to crime and live off welfare. [01:37] highest_cubist_thrills yeah japan automates the boring stuff [01:38] schestowitz[TR] capitalism requires many birthds [01:38] schestowitz[TR] to write off future debt [01:38] schestowitz[TR] and lay it on someone [01:38] DaemonFC Most of the people flocking in through the southern border come from countries that failed in every way, mostly due to Socialist autocrats. [01:38] schestowitz[TR] "human resources" [01:38] schestowitz[TR] it is also more "consumers" [01:38] DaemonFC They're not well educated. [01:39] schestowitz[TR] imagine what would happen to capitalism is human population fell to 8,000,000 million [01:39] schestowitz[TR] how many "Sales"... [01:39] DaemonFC We get randomness. [01:39] schestowitz[TR] how many "estate" vacant and given away for pennies [01:39] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: japan is strict [01:39] schestowitz[TR] they need to know the language [01:39] schestowitz[TR] and maybe have ample prior experience [01:39] MinceR lol @ baby shortage [01:39] schestowitz[TR] so the locals can focus on tech careers [01:40] schestowitz[TR] MinceR: manufacture more [01:40] DaemonFC The US just wants to keep its own population down. [01:40] schestowitz[TR] until supply meets demand [01:40] DaemonFC They can always make more "Americans" wealthy by letting mjg59_ flash his credit cards on the way past USCIS. [01:40] DaemonFC What they're doing is absolutely sickening. [01:40] schestowitz[TR] it just cause price hikes [01:40] schestowitz[TR] homes becoming more expensive [01:40] frog schestowitz[TR]: in capitalist theory, thats a write-off on the balance sheet, this is what happens [01:41] schestowitz[TR] that's what happens in thhhhhhhhhe uk when saudis and chinese buy whole blocks of apartments and homes [01:41] schestowitz[TR] barrier acting up, sorryu [01:41] frog too, you might consider write-offs with 10000000 million people, that's besides the point [01:41] frog it's just that called that: write-offs [01:41] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR]: It's pissing me the hell off, Roy. [01:41] highest_cubist_thrills barrier acting up, sorry <- youll get more babies that way [01:41] DaemonFC I still can't believe I voted for Darren Bailey. [01:41] DaemonFC The Democrats are worse than an actual Nazi that doesn't hide it very well. [01:41] frog and if a write-off isn't done in balance-sheets, that's typically called bancruptcy fraud or similar [01:42] schestowitz[TR] my keyboard in irc is running over the LAN [01:42] DaemonFC The Democrats corrode this state and they do it while seeming to pander to the poor. [01:42] schestowitz[TR] bad networking = lag= bad typos [01:43] frog and if assets are wish-thinked with imaginary value dollars, that's typicall called inflation [01:43] schestowitz[TR] both dems and gop believe in business supremacy [01:43] schestowitz[TR] and 99% of voters will vote fot a business supremacy party next month [01:44] MinceR 12 024005 < schestowitz[TR]> MinceR: manufacture more [01:44] MinceR got to turn all matter in the universe into human bodies. [01:44] schestowitz[TR] you can convert dead ones [01:45] schestowitz[TR] we're overcapacity] [01:45] schestowitz[TR] the planet's carrying capacity [01:45] frog in economic theory, some say write-offs are unavoidable austerity, others say it's stimulus avoiding them [01:45] schestowitz[TR] we borrow fossil fuel [01:45] schestowitz[TR] from millions of dead lives underground [01:45] schestowitz[TR] "reserves" [01:45] schestowitz[TR] the human population exploded with the induystrial revolution, powered by fuell [01:46] schestowitz[TR] https://www.britannica.com/topic/modernization/Population-change [01:46] TR Bot - Population change | Britannica [01:46] schestowitz[TR] https://ourworldindata.org/world-population-growth [01:46] TR Bot World Population Growth - Our World in Data [01:46] schestowitz[TR] https://www.vox.com/2016/1/30/10872878/world-population-map [01:46] TR Bot the world went from 170 million people to 7.3 billion, in one map - Vox [01:46] frog human population size increased before already: growth famine growth famine growth famine [01:46] frog what we got nowadays is: growth growth growth and contraception [01:47] schestowitz[TR] "From about 1700 there was a second and far more rapid population explosion. Since the late 1600s the worlds population has increased more than 15-fold. " [01:47] schestowitz[TR] "It took 200 years, to 1825, to double the worlds population from 500 million to 1 billion. It took only 100 years to achieve the next doubling, bringing the total to 2 billion by 1930, and only 45 years to achieve yet another doubling, to 4 billion by 1975." [01:47] frog now we got IPv6 [01:48] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:48] schestowitz[TR] ipv6 is old [01:48] schestowitz[TR] we studied it in uni more than 20 years ago [01:48] schestowitz[TR] and it's still barely adopted [01:48] schestowitz[TR] less than ipv4 [01:48] schestowitz[TR] the funny thing is, it has bits reserved for planet [01:49] schestowitz[TR] how optimistic [01:49] frog ipv6 infra is fully deployed, eat this [01:49] schestowitz[TR] thinking we'd assign ip addresses to machines in other planets [01:49] *Noisytoot has quit (Connection closed) [01:49] schestowitz[TR] at the moment we use proprietary networks to contact just some lousy space vehicles [01:49] schestowitz[TR] frog: barely enabled and exploited [01:49] schestowitz[TR] it's on "reserve" [01:49] frog anyway, IPv6 won't solve another huge issue: which is the exploding BGP routing table sizes, they always lied about this, the industry [01:50] schestowitz[TR] and windows has a lot to do with bad adoption rates [01:50] *Noisytoot has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [01:50] frog how? [01:50] schestowitz[TR] many still use WIndows XP [01:50] schestowitz[TR] for starters... [01:50] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #techrights [01:50] schestowitz[TR] also, windows stuff is toyish [01:50] schestowitz[TR] it's not made by geeks [01:50] schestowitz[TR] and not for geeeks [01:50] schestowitz[TR] for resellers and MBAs [01:50] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@freenode/user/Noisytoot) has joined #techrights [01:50] frog almost noone does, and 99% of all micros~1 win vista type systems got full ipv6 support, anyway, and growth [01:51] frog i would say, let micros~1 bother with the gamers and toys and business suits, then i don't need to [01:51] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot) has joined #techrights [01:53] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:53] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #techrights [01:54] frog currently, global fertilizer shipping is declining, and with it lower harvests expected, globally [01:55] TR News "Using a function in bash allows you to create something in Linux that works as if it were a script within a script. Whenever the data being processed matches a set of conditions, your script can call a function that does further processing." https://www.networkworld.com/article/3676280/using-functions-in-bash-to-selectively-run-a-group-of-linux-commands.html [01:55] TR Bot Using functions in bash to selectively run a group of Linux commands | Network World [01:55] frog that's not gonna be the climate change, "international community" was thinking about [01:55] schestowitz[TR] frog: yes, energy impacts food [01:55] schestowitz[TR] we convert energy into food [01:55] schestowitz[TR] and vice verse [01:56] schestowitz[TR] not just thr transport in farming but also food boosters [01:59] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:59] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@j5ewvgmqr9anu.irc) has joined #techrights [01:59] TR News ICBM is boosting Microsoft proprietary software. Red Hat is NOT competing. https://www.networkworld.com/article/3675958/kyndryl-microsoft-tie-mainframe-to-azure-cloud-resources.html#tk.rss_all [01:59] TR Bot Kyndryl, Microsoft tie mainframe to Azure cloud resources | Network World [01:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 48.70 k/sec., IPFS upstream 152.18 average k/sec., average swarm size 120.96 ● Oct 12 [02:00] DaemonFC https://nitter.it/mjg59/status/1579740898443001857#m [02:00] TR Bot Garrett (@mjg59): "Big shout out to Intel for shipping a Linux version of MEInfo with full debug symbols you've made my life a great deal easier"|nitter.it [02:00] DaemonFC Then there was mjg59_ thanking Intel for something related to the Management Engine. (malware) [02:01] schestowitz[TR] ME is not there for the user [02:01] schestowitz[TR] but to work against the user [02:01] schestowitz[TR] and it cannot be disabled [02:01] schestowitz[TR] if you find out how, they threaten you [02:01] schestowitz[TR] as librem/purism shows [02:01] schestowitz[TR] they removed the blog post [02:01] schestowitz[TR] mobile phones are even worse [02:02] schestowitz[TR] the whole device is remotely controlled by a second OS [02:02] schestowitz[TR] regimes already have tools for remote access https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/ [02:02] schestowitz[TR] *access [02:03] TR Bot Vault7 - Home [02:03] schestowitz[TR] https://wikileaks.org/vault8/ [02:03] TR Bot WikiLeaks - Vault 8 [02:03] frog "out of (radio/channel) band management", or "sidechannel" it's called, which isn't visible [02:03] frog most of it is probably based upon on terminal access with serial uart, Intel ME got a serial port [02:04] frog all GPS got serial port access too, with some operating system inside [02:05] frog and, USB, whatever those chips hide inside, and there is other protocols (I2C, IPMI and whatnot, lots of communication channels scattered all over) [02:06] frog well, and from there, UMTS, that's out-of-scope of freedom, that's all Telekom territory, with protocols rarely heard of before [02:06] TR News Devin Lin's (espidev) Blog today: Akademy 2022 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/01/Akademy_2022_Timetable_Videos_and_More.shtml [02:06] TR Bot Tux Machines Akademy 2022 Timetable, Videos, and More (UPDATEDx2) [02:06] frog "intelligent network" is one of this, the mobile variant being CAMEL/CAP, together with "mobile number portability" [02:06] frog meaning, nowadays, the entire service provider designation is fully virtualized [02:07] schestowitz[TR] service [sic] provider [sic] [02:07] schestowitz[TR] mobile networks are controllers [02:07] frog and _all_ mobile phone signalling "triggered" into "intelligent network" protocol domain [02:07] schestowitz[TR] over the "clients" [02:07] schestowitz[TR] a lot of the standards there are under NDA [02:07] schestowitz[TR] 'free' and 'open'... with patents and NDA to sign [02:07] schestowitz[TR] and controlled by national telecoms [02:08] frog one thought, for example, the mobile network voice box is controlled by intelligent network (IN) protocol... wouldn't surprise me if they could or would record all phone calls [02:08] schestowitz[TR] of regimes that insist they must see all communications, location etc. [02:08] frog and extract content with speech-to-text recognition, inside IN [02:08] schestowitz[TR] the western media says that's bad only when "bad" acountries do this [02:08] schestowitz[TR] when in fact they're very much behind technically when it comes to such spying [02:09] frog i had seen on TV, in UK "unregistered" SIM cards are sold; i wouldn't trust those too [02:09] schestowitz[TR] it's not enough [02:09] schestowitz[TR] SIM is one of several IDs [02:09] schestowitz[TR] the phone has another pair of schemes [02:09] frog mobile phones, all of them got an IMEI, and remember the "paranoia" of mine, with the earlobe or hidden tooth implants? [02:09] schestowitz[TR] they identify the device [02:09] schestowitz[TR] aside from that, they can figure out ID by contacts, location etc. [02:10] schestowitz[TR] if you value privacy, you will never have a mobile phone [02:10] schestowitz[TR] except down the toilet [02:10] schestowitz[TR] oor without batteries in some drawer [02:10] frog then they got a near-field RFID identification of the _person_ and the _device_ and instantly got the anonymous SIM-card (IMSI) debunked [02:10] schestowitz[TR] btw, new and "modern" phones barely let you disengage the battery [02:11] frog another one is, whenever you phone-call anyone else, text-to-speech synthesis, not sure how far they progressed with this [02:11] schestowitz[TR] frog: they don't need to plantt rfid in you [02:11] schestowitz[TR] they know where you live [02:11] schestowitz[TR] they can see your connections [02:11] frog schestowitz[TR]: nonetheless they did it [02:12] schestowitz[TR] and changing nyms in irc won't fool bnd or even the local police [02:12] MinceR if you think they've planted rfid in you, why not use a headset [02:12] frog i don't care, all conversations are public here [02:12] schestowitz[TR] show me an example of people found to have had tooth implants for trakcing by spies [02:12] MinceR or speakerphone [02:12] schestowitz[TR] or ear implants [02:12] schestowitz[TR] go ahead [02:12] frog schestowitz[TR]: "lone gunmen" (X-files series) [02:13] schestowitz[TR] lol [02:13] frog call me lunatic about this [02:13] schestowitz[TR] x-files [02:13] schestowitz[TR] sci-fi [02:13] frog however, i got some other memories [02:13] frog too [02:13] schestowitz[TR] enemy of the state? [02:13] frog and that's not why my eyes turn blood red in anger about them [02:13] schestowitz[TR] even there, will smith had things attached to his clothes [02:13] frog schestowitz[TR]: no, the state is the enemy of itself [02:13] frog they're wrecking it, themselves [02:13] frog and nothing i could do or say would change anything anymore [02:13] schestowitz[TR] i'm referring to a movie [02:14] schestowitz[TR] the one nsa was concerned about [02:14] schestowitz[TR] based on foia, iirc [02:14] frog i don't need any thriller movies anymore [02:15] DaemonFC https://www.phoronix.com/news/LLVM-Clang-15-Benchmarks [02:15] TR Bot Clang 15 Delivers Some Small x86_64 Performance Improvements But Mostly Flat - Phoronix [02:15] DaemonFC Another shitpost [02:15] DaemonFC People are using OpenSSL all the time. [02:15] DaemonFC JPEG-XL isn't even used by anyone yet. [02:15] schestowitz[TR] I saw this [02:15] schestowitz[TR] no references [02:15] frog anyway, the telekom protocol domain, that's completely out of scope of the free-software stuff mjg59_ is doing, even when i appreciate his work and efforts [02:16] schestowitz[TR] no results [02:16] schestowitz[TR] no charts [02:16] schestowitz[TR] nothing [02:16] schestowitz[TR] phoronix, "is nice"... [02:16] schestowitz[TR] "Trust me, it's fast" [02:16] *includeals has quit (*.net *.split) [02:16] frog he, nor anyone else, nor myself, could hack into Telekom and core-network operations (where i did a traineeship while ago) [02:16] frog i doubt they'll be capable to hack it themselves soon enough [02:17] frog because, even without all the surveillance crap, i consider alot of it in bad shape [02:17] *includeals (~includeal@a94-132-176-57.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #techrights [02:17] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: sometimes the comments are worth reading before the aricles [02:17] schestowitz[TR] to identify the black holes [02:17] schestowitz[TR] the lost info [02:17] schestowitz[TR] but the forums there too are sanitised [02:17] schestowitz[TR] banned users [02:18] DaemonFC https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/article%3Fhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.nytimes.com%252F2022%252F10%252F11%252Fus%252Fpolitics%252Fbiden-saudi-arabia-oil-production-cut.html [02:18] TR Bot Gemini Portal [02:18] schestowitz[TR] ksa: election meddling [02:18] schestowitz[TR] intervention [02:18] schestowitz[TR] but.. [02:18] schestowitz[TR] it's OK.... bcause Saudi [02:18] frog could barely catch up with 2G GSM anymore at that time, and they rolled out a next generation network every few month since then, almost 20years ago [02:18] schestowitz[TR] they can do anything they want [02:18] schestowitz[TR] they can even do 9/11 and then 4 presendents will cover up the 28 pages [02:18] schestowitz[TR] bush, obama, trump, bailout biden [02:18] frog which is another reason why, i NEVER used any "smart phone" ever in my life, never will [02:19] schestowitz[TR] http://techrights.org/2022/09/03/privacy-of-mobile-phones/ [02:19] TR Bot The Privacy Problem Associated With All Mobile Phones (Even Dumb Ones) is Worse Than Snowden Put It | Techrights [02:19] schestowitz[TR] btw, hours ago rianne told me out boss wants to givge us a 'free' smart phone [02:19] schestowitz[TR] I then checked the wording and laughed [02:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-11.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-12.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [02:20] schestowitz[TR] that our employer turns itself into a farce [02:20] schestowitz[TR] lying to clients, not getting security basics [02:20] schestowitz[TR] at least it's a source of comedy [02:21] frog behind the shiny facade of those "smart phones", tech is in really really bad shape, regardless of any surveillance [02:21] frog and i didn't oppose "lawful interception" (that's the term for it) ever, i oppose the mass surveillance crap which isn't _lawful_ [02:21] TR News [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D381.jpg [02:21] TR News [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D726.jpg [02:21] frog whatever argument they bring forward, it isn't neither _lawful_ nor necessary nor effective [02:22] schestowitz[TR] the argument they fancy making is, [02:22] schestowitz[TR] we need to spy on everyone [02:22] schestowitz[TR] to classify people [02:22] schestowitz[TR] and then look deeper into the "baddies" [02:22] schestowitz[TR] but there are easy refutation arguments [02:23] frog even then, there is boundaries to what _lawful_ means, to distinguish online and offline surveillance, surveillance of connection data or session content [02:23] schestowitz[TR] that's also like saying you need to individually check every corn seed [02:23] schestowitz[TR] in case there is metal in it [02:24] frog there is a giant shitload of surveillance everywhere, and it's never enough, hence they want more all the time, which too is an economic incentive [02:24] schestowitz[TR] over time the surveillance deepensa [02:24] schestowitz[TR] and it's about power, coercion, social control [02:24] frog produce useless surveillance crap, it's useless, ask for more of it, and more cash to do it [02:24] schestowitz[TR] not national stability and safety [02:24] schestowitz[TR] see belarus [02:25] frog too it's a difference, to place _public_ life under surveillance, and _private_ life [02:25] frog i had never heard of any demands for mass surveillance of _public_ life, which is car traffic in public, and each vehicle equipped to monitor behaviour in public [02:25] schestowitz[TR] https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2022/10/10/eu-watchdog-probes-frontex-eeas-support-to-non-eu-states-to-develop-surveillance [02:25] TR Bot watchdog probes Frontex & EEAS support to non-EU states to develop surveillance | Euronews [02:26] frog and why is that? _many_ lives can be saved by surveillance of cars... ever heard any demands for this? [02:26] frog i didn't [02:26] frog and surveillance of _public_ life is less critical than _private_ life, nonetheless, what do they intend to spie on? [02:27] frog in the end, this too is mostly this only: maximizing profits, into the cash pockets of a few [02:28] frog and well, not using any modern web browser and no smartphone, too is helpful to keep the profile lower than usual [02:29] frog it's probably best to avoid any online shopping and digital money transfer too, and pay with cash wherever possible [02:32] frog i never carry my ancient mobile phone with me, and moved it to another room, where it cannot evedrop with it's microphone [02:32] frog i would never accept a girlfriend together with a "smart phone" anywhere close myself ever [02:33] frog whenever i see a women with smartphone: FAILED, gtfo [02:33] frog and smart they are nowadays, just like their smart phones [02:33] schestowitz[TR] and why is that? _many_ lives can be saved by surveillance of cars... ever heard any demands for this? [02:33] schestowitz[TR] worse [02:33] schestowitz[TR] many lives can be loist [02:33] schestowitz[TR] it is a double-edge sword [02:33] schestowitz[TR] edged [02:34] schestowitz[TR] it assumes the myth of beneviolent dictatorships [02:34] schestowitz[TR] or companies in the public interest [02:34] frog schestowitz[TR]: i am not a supporter of surveillance, all i am saying is a less critical variant of it is NOT demanded, although the benefit would be undisputable to do it [02:34] frog instead, they spie on anything else, to maximize profits [02:35] DaemonFC Biden's pardon of people convicted of marijuana possession only includes US citizens. [02:35] frog out of curiosity, was there any woman remaining without smart phone nowadays? [02:36] frog i mean, within my social realm and intellect... i gave up a decade ago already [02:36] frog not this was of any relevance, just saying, that's another aspect [02:36] TR News (NEW): Containers: Kata, Clown Native, and eBPF and the Service Mesh http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/Containers_Kata_Clown_Native_and_eBPF_and_the_Service_Mesh.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/Containers_Kata_Clown_Native_and_eBPF_and_the_Service_Mesh.gmi [02:36] TR Bot Tux Machines Containers: Kata, Clown Native, and eBPF and the Service Mesh [02:36] TR News (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/today_s_leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/today_s_leftovers.gmi [02:36] TR Bot Tux Machines today's leftovers [02:36] DaemonFC So that means that if you were a non-citizen charged with the same offense, you can't get a green card due to Biden's pardon. [02:36] frog and i am not saying it, i live by it, without compromise, i had enought of this, 20years ago already [02:37] frog DaemonFC: i don't give a f whatever wherever about the Biddler Joe of yours [02:37] DaemonFC He's just trying to influence the election at this point. [02:38] DaemonFC Same as with the illegal entitlement program of "debt forgiveness" for student loans. [02:38] TR News Links 11/10/2022: WordPress 6.1 Release Candidate 1 (RC1) and New KDE Plasma | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/11/wordpress-6-1-rc1/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/11/wordpress-6-1-rc1/ [02:38] TR Bot Links 11/10/2022: WordPress 6.1 Release Candidate 1 (RC1) and New KDE Plasma | Techrights [02:38] DaemonFC After what happened in New York, it's official. [02:38] DaemonFC If your professor flunks you, just cancel the professor. [02:38] DaemonFC :) [02:38] frog i had not received regular salary for almost 20 years now, i don't give a f whatever about any debt [02:38] DaemonFC Have fun when the next generation of doctors graduates. [02:39] DaemonFC No weed out classes, and half of them on weed. [02:39] frog and Biddler Joe can't nor won't pay my bills, so what [02:39] frog however i received an energy bill recently... guess what [02:39] frog as a rough estimate, up to $10000/Barrel oil energy equivalent... discuss [02:39] DaemonFC The German government charged you $1,500 for not using anything. [02:40] DaemonFC So they can save the planet. [02:40] TR News Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. 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HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-111022.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-111022.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-111022.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-111022.txt [02:43] TR Bot IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, October 11, 2022 [02:45] frog imagine this, i met a woman, and told here: either you quit with this "smart phone" or you're gone forever [02:45] frog if i see you once with such a device in your hand, you're out [02:45] TR News iTWire - Fortinet authentication bypass flaw being exploited in the wild https://itwire.com/security/fortinet-authentication-bypass-flaw-being-exploited-in-the-wild.html Source: IT Wire | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//itwire.com/security/fortinet-authentication-bypass-flaw-being-exploited-in-the-wild.html [02:45] TR News Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-10-11.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-10-11.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now) [02:45] TR Bot - Fortinet authentication bypass flaw being exploited in the wild [02:46] frog needless to say, no shitbook, no shitter, no social shit, once and you're gone [02:46] highest_cubist_thrills or companies in the public interest <- spi, inc [02:46] highest_cubist_thrills spiware :) [02:46] TR News iTWire - Telstra chair refuses to criticise Optus over data breach https://itwire.com/telecoms-and-nbn/telstra-chair-refuses-to-criticise-optus-over-data-breach.html Source: IT Wire | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//itwire.com/telecoms-and-nbn/telstra-chair-refuses-to-criticise-optus-over-data-breach.html [02:46] TR Bot - Telstra chair refuses to criticise Optus over data breach [02:46] highest_cubist_thrills microsoft loaded [ok] [02:46] highest_cubist_thrills ibm loaded [pk] [02:47] highest_cubist_thrills sjw army loaded [ok] [02:47] highest_cubist_thrills geocode loaded [ok] [02:47] schestowitz[TR] osi anebled [02:47] schestowitz[TR] enabled [02:47] highest_cubist_thrills mozilla loaded [ok] [02:47] schestowitz[TR] the "osi model" [02:47] schestowitz[TR] suse (Sap) misled [02:47] highest_cubist_thrills Obviously Some Infiltrators [02:47] schestowitz[TR] u SAP at riot [02:47] schestowitz[TR] SAP-backed riot [02:47] schestowitz[TR] against RMS [02:48] schestowitz[TR] hosted by microsoft [02:48] schestowitz[TR] built using microsoft typescript [02:48] schestowitz[TR] managed by hamasman (ICBM) [02:48] schestowitz[TR] hamasman... known as a weapon against "jews" [02:50] *Noisytoot has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in) [02:50] *Noisytoot has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in) [02:50] *Noisytoot has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in) [02:51] frog if bob marly would sing a song, it was "no woman no smartphone, no smartphone no cry" nowadays [02:52] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@freenode/user/Noisytoot) has joined #techrights [02:52] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot) has joined #techrights [02:52] frog uhuhuhhuuuhu "shall i remember, no smartphone, no woman, no smartphone no cry" [02:53] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #techrights [02:54] frog didn't think about it for a while, i am not interested in the hysterical madness anyway, that's too much to tolerate already with them, nowadays [02:55] frog however, even if, if such a beast would carry a smart phone into my living space, never ever, no way [02:56] frog and even then, there's still ordinary computers, which they use for their social nonsense, not any different [02:57] *horseface has quit (Quit: PING TIMEOUT!!! >9000 FOR SURE!!!) [02:58] frog i can't accept this [02:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 18.33 k/sec., IPFS upstream 101.85 average k/sec., average swarm size 137.16 ● Oct 12 [03:02] IPFS Gemini requests since start of month: 62018 total Total number of pages in capsule: 42979 Active: active (running) since Thu 2022-08-04 09:15:14 BST; 2 months 7 days ago [03:03] IPFS IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 76 GB TotalOut: 20 GB [03:04] *horseface (~horseface@9ucczhkmm895g.irc) has joined #techrights [03:04] IPFS New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled. [03:05] DaemonFC https://github.com/WebKit/WebKit/tree/webkitglib/2.38 [03:05] TR Bot - WebKit/WebKit at webkitglib/2.38 [03:05] DaemonFC WebkitGTK is moved over to github with everything else. [03:05] frog nowadays, they're all assimilated into the smart phone collective, like the Borg [03:06] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Quit: Leaving) [03:06] *GNUmoon has quit (Quit: Leaving) [03:06] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@txt39mzjsjjpa.irc) has joined #techrights [03:07] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [03:08] frog it's just like in "first contact" when Picard freaks out over the Borg: [03:08] frog "The line must be drawn here! This far, no further! And I will make them pay for what they've done!" [03:08] frog which is wimmin, and their smart phones [03:13] *horseface has quit (Quit: PING TIMEOUT!!! >9000 FOR SURE!!!) [03:16] TR News Microsoft fascism https://theintercept.com/2022/09/07/microsoft-military-union-cwa/ trying to be bailed out by helping fascists http://techrights.org/2021/04/04/microsoft-nationalism/ [03:16] TR Bot Labor Union Censored Report Criticizing Microsofts Military Contracts [03:16] TR Bot Microsoft: Nationalism As A Service (NaaS) | Techrights [03:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. 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Heather Joslyn is paid by the anti-Linux Foundation to issue these terrible and misleading puff pieces. https://thenewstack.io/making-europes-romantic-open-source-world-more-practical/ LF 'Europe' is a monopolists' think tank, foreign interference http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/european-school-the-hague/ [03:25] TR Bot Making Europes Romantic Open Source World More Practical - The New Stack [03:25] TR Bot European School The Hague (ESH) Faces a Crisis and Families of EPO Workers Are Harmed Profoundly | Techrights [03:26] TR News Microsoft-funded anti-Linux Foundation http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_Foundation [03:26] TR Bot Linux Foundation - Techrights [03:28] TR News "Content sponsored by a company affiliated with Insight Partners will include additional disclosure indicating that the sponsor is under common control with TNS." They violate their OWN policy now. https://thenewstack.io/disclosure-guidelines/ [03:28] TR Bot Disclosures - The New Stack [03:28] TR News LF uses Microsoft and ICBM money to buy terrible and misleading puff pieces https://thenewstack.io/open-source-summit-introducing-linux-foundation-europe/ [03:28] TR Bot At Open Source Summit: Introducing Linux Foundation Europe - The New Stack [03:29] DaemonFC https://techcrunch.com/2022/10/11/fintech-brex-layoffs-restructuring/?guccounter=1 [03:29] TR Bot valued at $12.3B earlier this year, lays off 11% of staff as part of restructuring TechCrunch [03:29] DaemonFC 136 layoffs, finance, San Francisco [03:30] DaemonFC Udacity just made another major round of layoffs. No specific number. San Francisco. (Education) [03:41] *Noisytoot has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in) [03:43] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #techrights [03:53] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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[04:41] schestowitz[TR] https://www.mancity.com/citytv/mens/laporte-post-copenhagen-citytv-11-oct-63801113 [04:41] TR Bot Laporte proud of ten-man City's display in Copenhagen [04:43] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:43] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [04:47] *Noisytoot has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [04:49] DaemonFC I wonder how many "site compat" problems with Pale Moon come from it adding Pale Moon and Goanna to the User Agent. [04:50] DaemonFC Fucking Cloudflare keeps locking you out because your User Agent is "unknown" or something completely idiotic like that. [04:50] DaemonFC So if you want to be sure, it has to EXACTLY match a Firefox User Agent or else. [04:51] TR News Use openstreetmap instead; Gulag Maps is spyware. https://www.maketecheasier.com/drop-pins-google-maps/ [04:51] TR Bot How to Drop Pins in Google Maps for More Accurate Directions - Make Tech Easier [04:52] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #techrights [04:52] *horseface (~horseface@9ucczhkmm895g.irc) has joined #techrights [04:52] TR News Based on old reports from corporate media, CIA gets real-time back-end access to Google Maps to check how you use it [04:52] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [04:53] TR News Shocking: there USED to be REAL journalism on the WWW. [04:53] TR News Making Europes Romantic Open Source World More Practical was published some minutes ago. Disclosure is missing, as before. Heather Joslyn, the editor of the site, is paid by the Microsoft-funded front group to issue these misleading pieces, prepared by the companies they cover. http://techrights.org/2022/10/11/heather-joslyn-lf-puff-pieces/ [04:57] *Noisytoot has quit (connection closed) [04:59] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@22agg6qj8dxhg.irc) has joined #techrights [04:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 23.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 126.06 average k/sec., average swarm size 128.31 ● Oct 12 [05:16] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@freenode/user/Noisytoot) has joined #techrights [05:19] *Noisytoot has quit (Connection closed) [05:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. 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[06:10] DaemonFC Get one thing wrong and Cloudflare sites stop working because they don't know what your browser is. [06:10] DaemonFC This is horrible. [06:11] DaemonFC You shouldn't even have to lie about your User Agent, but if you do, it has to at least be some take on Chrome, Firefox, or Safari. [06:11] DaemonFC I think that wget supports UA overrides, probably because someone bounced off a Cloudflare check or something. [06:17] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], I'm reading Freakonomics chapter 4 "Where Have All the Criminals Gone?". [06:17] DaemonFC The situation in Communist Romania regarding abortion seems to be the way the United States is going. [06:17] DaemonFC There's even calls for a "celibacy tax" in the mainstream news now. [06:18] schestowitz[TR] brb [06:18] schestowitz[TR] sorry, 6 am here [06:19] TR News "Before the year 1500 or so, Western Europeans mainly tuned their instruments in three-limit just intonation" http://www.ethanhein.com/wp/2022/tuning-is-hard/ | [06:20] TR Bot Tuning is hard | The Ethan Hein Blog [06:20] TR News "Its time to get me up to speed with modern CSS. Theres so much new in CSS that I know too little about." https://www.matuzo.at/blog/2022/100daysof-day12/ | Source: Manuel Matuzovic [06:20] TR Bot Day 12: max() trickery - Manuel Matuzovi [06:20] TR News "Let's have fun doing OpenBSD kiosks!" https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2022-10-11-openbsd-kiosk.html | Source: Data Swamp [06:20] TR Bot Solene'% : A kiosk computer running OpenBSD [06:20] TR News "The Mastodon instance Ive been using, mastodon.technology" https://codingitwrong.com/2022/10/10/migrating-a-mastodon-account.html | [06:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-11.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-12.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [06:20] TR Bot a Mastodon Account | CodingItWrong.com [06:21] TR News "I was asked today whether Ive a list of ideas for using Ansibles local facts, and my answer was, sadly, no." https://jpmens.net/2022/10/11/ideas-for-using-ansible-local-facts/ | Source: Jan Piet Mens [06:21] TR Bot Jan-Piet Mens :: Ideas for using Ansible local facts [06:21] TR News "Let's say you want to self-host a Gemini capsule and a weblog. Maybe you'll use a Raspberry Pi or VPS server." https://tobykurien.com/simpler-linux-selfhosting/ | Source: Toby Kurien [06:21] TR Bot Simpler Linux self-hosting with tmux and bubblewrap | Toby Kurien [06:21] TR News [Old] "This article is a timeline of events in (or related to) the history of the Eamon text adventure series" https://eamon.wiki/Timeline_of_Eamon_history | [06:21] TR Bot Timeline of Eamon history - Eamon Wiki [06:21] TR News [Old] "I've finished a rough port of the bocfel Z-code interpreter for the Pico." https://forums.raspberrypi.com/viewtopic.php?t=316321 | [06:21] TR Bot A Pico Z-machine - Raspberry Pi Forums [06:22] TR News "As is the usual way of things, the monthly Activity Report is hereby combined with my Contract Report." https://www.haiku-os.org/blog/waddlesplash/2022-10-10_haiku_activity_contract_report_september_2022/ | Source: HaikuOS [06:22] TR Bot Haiku Activity & Contract Report, September 2022 | Haiku Project [06:24] TR News "Kona II: Brume is the follow-up to 2017's Kona from Parabole / Ravenscourt bringing another cold and mysterious adventure to walk through." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/mystery-adventure-kona-ii-brume-gets-a-linux-demo-ready-for-steam-deck/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [06:24] TR Bot adventure Kona II: Brume gets a Linux demo ready for Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux [06:24] TR News "Up for more pointing and clicking while adventuring? You've come to the right spooky place, with Foolish Mortals being announced with Native Linux support" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/foolish-mortals-is-an-upcoming-spooky-point-and-click-adventure/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [06:24] TR Bot Mortals is an upcoming spooky point and click adventure | GamingOnLinux [06:25] TR News "Time to get some more really cheap games, as Fanatical have launched their Dollar Collections sale and there's plenty of good choices in there to get you through the upcoming cold winter nights." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/fanatical-running-an-awesome-dollar-collections-sale/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [06:25] TR Bot running an awesome 'Dollar Collections' sale | GamingOnLinux [06:25] TR News "Don't fancy buying from JSAUX and don't need the charger + extra expense of the official Steam Deck Docking Station? ivoler are another good choice." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/the-upgraded-ivoler-steam-deck-docking-station-is-another-good-choice/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [06:25] TR Bot upgraded ivoler Steam Deck Docking Station is another good choice | GamingOnLinux [06:25] DaemonFC "Moreover, studies have shown that an unemployment decline of 1 percentage point accounts for a 1 percent drop in nonviolent crime." [06:26] DaemonFC So the Fed is admitting it wants to increase robberies by 3%. [06:26] TR News iophk: windows tco -- windows botnets made the ddos possible https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/kremlin-cyberattacks-us-airports-kirby/story?id=91323988 [06:26] TR Bot 'Too soon to know' whether Kremlin was behind cyberattacks on US airports, Kirby says - ABC News [06:26] DaemonFC I disagree with their logic that a strong economy would only affect financially-motivated crimes. [06:27] DaemonFC High unemployment and the despair setting in also increases drug abuse and leads people to wonder what the hell they have to lose if they go to jail for raping someone. [06:27] DaemonFC So it obviously lowers the bar. [06:27] TR News ad hominem, appeal to novelty, and just plain wrong: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-101022.html#tOct%2010%2020:33:11 https://www.usf.edu/hr-training/documents/lunch-bytes/generationaldifferenceschart.pdf https://www.careerplanner.com/Career-Articles/Generations.cfm [06:27] TR Bot IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, October 10, 2022 [06:27] TR Bot The Generations - Which Generation are You? [06:28] DaemonFC If you have a good job and a good life, you're probably less likely to rape someone and overdose on drugs than someone saying "This sucks. I'm broke. I'm being evicted. Nobody's hiring. What difference does anything I do make anymore?". [06:28] DaemonFC mjg59_, I said "rape" btw. You can go nuts now. [06:28] DaemonFC I also said you can go nuts, which is an ableist term or something. [06:28] TR News Facebook = espionage https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/general-10/meta-ireland-and-data-protection-4175717656/ [06:28] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/general-10/meta-ireland-and-data-protection-4175717656/ ) [06:28] DaemonFC Even though I'm nuts. [06:28] DaemonFC I've got the pills for being nuts. [06:29] DaemonFC So you can verbally abuse a mentally ill homosexual man some more I guess. [06:29] DaemonFC If that's how a guy living in a house with a $3 million mortgage gets his rocks off. [06:30] TR News "yes, its very clear that mjg wants nothing more than to stop you from talking about patents" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-101022.html#tOct%2010%2008:08:18 [06:30] TR Bot IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, October 10, 2022 [06:30] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [06:30] DaemonFC I'm just pointing out that someone who may be inclined to rape may have second thoughts that make him change his mind if his life is going so well the state prison is a threat. [06:31] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #techrights [06:31] DaemonFC That shouldn't be a controversial point to make in an argument about the root causes of crime. [06:31] *Noisytoot has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in) [06:31] DaemonFC "Having something they can take away." stabilizes society and lowers all sorts of crime. [06:31] TR News "CrowdSupply recently featured the Bee Motion S3 board which integrates sensors such as a PIR motion and a light ambient sensor." https://linuxgizmos.com/sensing-board-equipped-with-esp32-s3-soc/ | Source: Linux Gizmos [06:31] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/sensing-board-equipped-with-esp32-s3-soc/ ) [06:31] DaemonFC You take everything away from a man, and the only thing that stops him is what sort of a man he is. [06:32] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has joined #techrights [06:32] TR News "The find command is a powerhouse for searching files based on a number of criteria." https://linuxhandbook.com/find-with-regex/ | Source: Linux Handbook [06:32] TR Bot Find Command in Linux With Regex [5 Examples] [06:32] TR News "In this guide, we will learn what is sshpass utility, how to install sshpass in Linux and FreeBSD systems" https://ostechnix.com/sshpass-noninteractive-ssh-password-provider/ | Source: OSTechNix [06:32] TR Bot sshpass for Non-interactive SSH login In Scripts - OSTechNix [06:32] DaemonFC That's why not everyone responds to bullies by coming back in and shooting, for example. [06:32] DaemonFC Most people who are wronged have an aversion, morally, to murder. [06:33] DaemonFC Some don't. [06:33] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot) has joined #techrights [06:33] DaemonFC So you get the ones who don't making the news cycle. [06:33] TR News "However, skipping intervening releases does, in fact, often work quite well." https://diziet.dreamwidth.org/13087.html | Source: Diziet [06:33] TR Bot diziet | Skipping releases when upgrading Debian systems [06:34] TR News "John Deere purchased the spectrum as part of an overall plan to modernize its factories." https://staceyoniot.com/how-john-deere-built-its-own-cellular-network-for-its-factory/ | Source: Stacey on IoT [06:34] TR Bot How John Deere built its own cellular network for its factory - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis [06:34] DaemonFC I look at these school shooters, and I see a pattern. I see a pattern of a system that failed them. It failed at reaching them educationally. It failed to create a safe school environment where they weren't getting beaten up every day. [06:34] TR News "In this Daniel Lupien YouTube short, he show you how easy it is to create a simple mold and cast it with aluminum." https://blog.adafruit.com/2022/10/11/quick-and-easy-aluminum-casting/ | Source: Adafruit [06:34] TR Bot Quick and easy aluminum casting Adafruit Industries Makers, hackers, artists, designers and engineers! [06:34] DaemonFC And a lot of them just snap, right? And their parents have guns in the house. [06:34] DaemonFC The fault is not the gun, it's the government. [06:35] TR News "Microsofts sites are usually very poorly coded (like Outlook WebMail) and when the Illinois electric company, ComEd..." https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/10/11/i-finally-got-around-to-submitting-a-web-compatibility-problem-report-on-comed-the-illinois-electric-company-to-pale-moon-forum/ | Source: DaemonFC (Ryan Farmer) [06:35] TR Bot I finally got around to submitting a Web Compatibility problem report on ComEd (the Illinois electric company) to Pale Moon Forum. (Microsoft-related) | BaronHK's Rants [06:35] TR News "Given an array of N numbers of type double, the standard way to sort it in C is to invoke the qsort function" https://lemire.me/blog/2022/10/11/the-number-of-comparisons-needed-to-sort-a-shuffled-array-qsort-versus-stdsort/ | Source: Daniel Lemire [06:35] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://lemire.me/blog/2022/10/11/the-number-of-comparisons-needed-to-sort-a-shuffled-array-qsort-versus-stdsort/ ) [06:35] DaemonFC The government runs the schools. Attendance at the government schools is mandatory. Therefore, the government should have to make the school safe to attend. But it doesn't. Most of the time, the faculty gangs up on the victim and sides with the bully. [06:35] TR News "I recently had to work with a large piece of well aged and reliable legacy software that had to be modified to include data protection for some sensitive personal information due to recent legislation" https://soylentnews.org/~Rich/journal/12486 | Source: Soylent News [06:35] TR Bot Journal of Rich (945) [06:36] *Noisytoot has quit (Client Quit) [06:36] TR News "I was browsing Gemini when I came across a response to my unit test question: [...]" http://boston.conman.org//2022/10/10.2 | Source: Sean Conner [06:36] TR Bot An answer to my question about unit tests - The Boston Diaries - Captain Napalm [06:36] TR News [Old] "making software easier through removing accidental complexity" https://codingitwrong.com/2022/04/07/human-centered-computing.html | [06:36] TR Bot Computing | CodingItWrong.com [06:36] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot) has joined #techrights [06:37] TR News "A primer. CSS is Turing complete" https://matt-rickard.com/where-logic-lives | Source: Matt Rickard [06:37] TR Bot Where Logic Lives [06:37] TR News "Gits model as a content-addressable file system suits me" https://idiomdrottning.org/git-faq | Source: Idiomdrottning [06:37] TR Bot How the repos on this site work [06:37] TR News "I am writing this article on my birthday to give my thanks and appreciations to those who helped me start and continue my journey with programming." https://theevilskeleton.gitlab.io/2022/10/10/how-I-started-programming-and-how-you-can-too.html | Source: Hari Rana [06:37] TR Bot How I Started Programming, and How You Can Too | TheEvilSkeleton [06:37] DaemonFC "During the first half of the twentieth century, the incidence of violent crime in the United States was, for the most part, fairly steady. But in the early 1960s, it began to climb. In retrospect, it is clear that one of the major factors pushing this trend was a more lenient justice system." [06:38] TR News "We all strive to maintain healthier lifestyles, yet the kitchen is often the most challenging environment by far" https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/10/11/the-smart-badge-recognizes-kitchen-activities-with-its-suite-of-sensors/ | Source: Arduino [06:38] TR Bot The Smart-Badge recognizes kitchen activities with its suite of sensors | Arduino Blog [06:38] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], Illinois House passed a bill that would make felony possession of dangerous drugs a Class A Misdemeanor. [06:38] schestowitz[TR] let's focus on tech [06:38] DaemonFC This will cause a spike of violent crime. Drug dealers are not "non-violent". [06:38] TR News [Old] "In no particular order, here are fourteen principles about how to disagree about tech respectfully." https://codingitwrong.com/2022/02/18/disagreeing-about-tech-respectfully.html | [06:38] TR Bot About Tech Respectfully | CodingItWrong.com [06:38] DaemonFC And treating them with kid gloves just means more of them will be out shooting and raping. [06:39] TR News The Future of the Web is on the Edge https://deno.com/blog/the-future-of-web-is-on-the-edge | [06:39] TR Bot The Future of the Web is on the Edge [06:39] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [06:39] TR News "It is time to catch up on a few developments in the field of storing data via chemicals, such as DNA." https://blog.dshr.org/2022/10/the-dna-typewriter.html | Source: David Rosenthal [06:39] TR Bot DSHR's Blog: The "DNA Typewriter" [06:40] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #techrights [06:40] DaemonFC "At the same time, politicians were growing increasingly softer on crimefor fear of sounding racist, as the economist Gary Becker has written, since African-Americans and Hispanics commit a disproportionate share of felonies. So if you were the kind of person who might want to commit a crime, the incentives were lining up in your favor: a slimmer likelihood of being convicted and, if convicted, a shorter prison term [06:40] DaemonFC . Because criminals respond to incentives as readily as anyone, the result was a surge in crime. [06:40] DaemonFC It took some time, and a great deal of political turmoil, but these incentives were eventually curtailed. Criminals who would have previously been set freefor drug-related offenses and parole revocation in particularwere instead locked up." [06:40] TR News "The expulsions in Kandahar are part of the Talibans enforcement of its deeply controversial ban, which has fuelled protests inside the country and attracted international condemnation." https://hindupost.in/world/taliban-expel-schoolgirls-who-are-13-or-older-or-have-reached-puberty/ | Source: Hindu Post [06:40] TR Bot Taliban expel schoolgirls who are 13 or older or have reached puberty [06:40] DaemonFC We're going into a "softer on crime" cycle again and that will end the way you expect. [06:41] TR News "The event company Lomatec has been accused of Islamophobia on social media for a message" https://medforth.biz/according-to-anasse-kazib-pointing-out-that-it-is-customary-in-france-to-wipe-ones-butt-with-toilet-paper-instead-of-by-hand-is-islamophobic/ | Source: Medforth [06:41] TR Bot According to Anasse Kazib, pointing out that it is customary in France to wipe ones butt with toilet paper instead of by hand is Islamophobic Allah's Willing Executioners [06:42] TR News "The Australian Securities and Investment Commission has been pushing for open access to consumers data" https://michaelwest.com.au/scraping-the-bottom-of-the-barrel-in-assault-on-privacy/ | Source: Michael West Media [06:42] TR Bot Scraping the bottom of the barrel in assault on privacy - Michael West [06:42] starstreak i wonder what linucks distro the neanderthals would use [06:45] TR News "The Financial Stability Oversight Council a Treasury-led panel of top officials from the Federal Reserve" https://cacm.acm.org/news/265296-fsoc-warns-crypto-is-possible-systemic-risk/fulltext | Source: ACM [06:45] TR Bot FSOC Warns Crypto is Possible Systemic Risk | News | Communications of the ACM [06:46] *Noisytoot has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in) [06:46] TR News "The Data Protection Commission (DPC) has submitted a draft decision in a large scale inquiry into Meta Platforms Ireland Limited (MPIL) to other Concerned Supervisory Authorities" https://www.dataprotection.ie/en/news-media/Irish-DPC-submits-Article-60-draft-decision-on-inquiry-into-Meta | [06:46] TR Bot Irish DPC submits Article 60 draft decision on inquiry into Meta | 03/10/2022 | Data Protection Commission [06:47] *Noisytoot has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in) [06:47] TR News "If it werent for all the suffering and pain and fear, that might even be funny." https://off-guardian.org/2022/10/07/chicken-little-was-an-optimist/ | Source: Off Guardian [06:47] TR Bot Chicken Little Was an Optimist OffGuardian [06:48] TR News [Old] "It seems the answer is simple - just pivot to local news. Though who knows if your local news station is just owned by a central organization and fed scripts." https://connortumbleson.com/2022/07/11/local-news-is-dead/ | [06:48] TR Bot not resolve host: connortumbleson.com; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://connortumbleson.com/2022/07/11/local-news-is-dead/ ) [06:50] TR News "To scan all IPv4 services, my colleagues and I at Stanford University have built a system called GPS, which is the first scalable and wall-time efficient solution" https://blog.apnic.net/2022/10/11/predicting-ipv4-services-across-all-ports/ | Source: APNIC [06:50] TR Bot Predicting IPv4 services across all ports | APNIC Blog [06:51] TR News "Piracy is on the rise." https://torrentfreak.com/online-piracy-continues-to-rise-with-the-us-firmly-in-the-lead-221011/ | Source: Torrent Freak [06:51] TR Bot Piracy Continues to Rise With the US Firmly in the Lead * TorrentFreak [06:51] TR News "Since its inception more than three decades ago, UK-based broadcaster Sky has been fighting piracy battles on multiple fronts." https://torrentfreak.com/pirate-whac-a-mole-sky-takes-on-teatv-cucotv-cinema-hd-221011/ | Source: Torrent Freak [06:51] TR Bot Whac-A-Mole: Sky Takes On TeaTV, CucoTV & Cinema HD * TorrentFreak [06:54] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [06:55] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [06:55] TR News "I went to Integration systems classes. I dont really enjoy Java, but the teacher is actually teaching stuff I dont know anything about, Spring Boot Webflux. Its based on the Java Streams and recent Java features." gemini://dk.flounder.online/gemlog/2022-10-11.gmi [06:56] TR News (NEW): Games: Mystery adventure Kona II: Brume, Foolish Mortals, Fanatical, ivoler http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/Games_Mystery_adventure_Kona_II_Brume_Foolish_Mortals_Fanatical.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/Games_Mystery_adventure_Kona_II_Brume_Foolish_Mortals_Fanatical.gmi [06:56] TR Bot Tux Machines Games: Mystery adventure Kona II: Brume, Foolish Mortals, Fanatical, ivoler [06:58] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [06:58] TR News Supercon https://hackaday.com/2022/10/11/jolly-wrencher-sao-and-how-kicad-6-made-it-easy/ | Source: Hackaday [06:58] TR Bot Wrencher SAO, And How KiCad 6 Made It Easy | Hackaday [06:59] TR News "floppy drives were expensive" https://hackaday.com/2022/10/11/a-cassette-interface-for-a-6502-breadboard-computer-kansas-city-style/ | Source: Hackaday [06:59] TR Bot Cassette Interface For A 6502 Breadboard Computer, Kansas City-Style | Hackaday [06:59] TR News (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/today_s_howtos.gmi [06:59] TR Bot Tux Machines today's howtos [06:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 78.48 k/sec., IPFS upstream 98.48 average k/sec., average swarm size 52.38 [06:59] TR News Supercon https://hackaday.com/2022/10/11/2022-supercon-more-talks-more-speakers/ | Source: Hackaday [06:59] TR Bot Supercon: More Talks, More Speakers! | Hackaday ● Oct 12 [07:00] AdmFubar n [07:00] AdmFubar :p ooopsers [07:01] schestowitz[TR] happend :-0 [07:02] schestowitz[TR] but that's a very short passowrd [07:03] TR News Inflation at record high 20,1 percent https://telex.hu/english/2022/10/11/inflation-at-record-high-20-1-percent-in-hungary-in-september | Source: Telex (Hungary) [07:03] TR Bot Telex: Inflation at record high 20,1 percent in Hungary in September [07:08] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@freenode/user/Noisytoot) has joined #techrights [07:09] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #techrights [07:10] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot) has joined #techrights [07:10] highest_cubist_thrills systemd-recursiond --recursiond [07:12] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:13] highest_cubist_thrills man systemd-recursiond [07:13] *Noisytoot has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [07:14] highest_cubist_thrills systemd-recursiond runs systemd-recursiond [07:14] highest_cubist_thrills options [07:14] highest_cubist_thrills --recursiond run systemd-recursiond with the --recursiond option [07:20] highest_cubist_thrills one of the problems with many init systems is there are no NATIVE features to run a daemon recursively, only hacks involving shell scripts [07:20] highest_cubist_thrills fortunately systemd-recursived solves this [07:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-11.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-12.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [07:20] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #techrights [07:21] *Noisytoot has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in) [07:21] highest_cubist_thrills not only will it run a daemon recursively, it can even run itself (which for convenience, it does by default) [07:21] highest_cubist_thrills it is written in c, the easiest language to manage init with, but is currently being ported to rust [07:23] highest_cubist_thrills one of the things holding up a rust port is every time i ask people how to port this c program to rust, they say "lolwut" [07:23] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR2], I like how Larabel mentioned GNOME Web 43 drops pdf.js. [07:24] DaemonFC Webkit 2.38 has it in the rendering engine now. [07:24] *Noisytoot has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in) [07:24] DaemonFC No need to carry it at the browser level. [07:24] DaemonFC *WebkitGTK 2.38 [07:28] highest_cubist_thrills this is FREE SOFTWARE of course and comes with NO WARRANTY [07:28] highest_cubist_thrills void where prohibited, prohibited in void, also prohibited in linucks [07:28] highest_cubist_thrills (i didnt prohibit it in void, the void maintainers did) [07:34] DaemonFC No warranty is the same warranty you get with proprietary software. [07:34] DaemonFC Can you imagine the liability if Microsoft had to warrant its products? [07:42] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@freenode/user/Noisytoot) has joined #techrights [07:43] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #techrights [07:44] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot) has joined #techrights [07:47] highest_cubist_thrills there are a couple of really great features coming to the next version of the linux kernel [07:47] highest_cubist_thrills both are kernel boot options [07:48] highest_cubist_thrills the first one is safemode, which runs the kernel without any modules [07:48] highest_cubist_thrills which is good if your kernel froze while it was trying to boot the previous time [07:49] highest_cubist_thrills it also makes the kernel extremely safe by reducing the attack surface. i dont use linux much these days but i always run it in safe mode now [07:49] mjg59_ You could do that entirely in userland, so having it be a kernel feature feels odd [07:49] highest_cubist_thrills the other is the null option, which tells kernel not to run at all [07:49] highest_cubist_thrills this is the completely locked down option where it just doesnt boot anything [07:49] *horseface_ has quit (Quit: PING TIMEOUT!!! >9000 FOR SURE!!!) [07:49] mjg59_ Ha ok [07:49] highest_cubist_thrills :> [07:49] *horseface (~horseface@6wrtk7v3dgyhu.irc) has joined #techrights [07:59] *Noisytoot has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in) [07:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 116.16 k/sec., IPFS upstream 181.50 average k/sec., average swarm size 55.98 ● Oct 12 [08:00] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@freenode/user/Noisytoot) has joined #techrights [08:02] *hvxgr has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [08:03] highest_cubist_thrills you could just as easily put the null boot option in the bootloader-- which is more effective because it would work on kernel versions that dont have null support [08:03] highest_cubist_thrills but whats the fun in doing a stupid pointless thing the RIGHT way? [08:04] highest_cubist_thrills besides, if you do it in the kernel not only is it more trouble to implement, but now it works with every bootloader :) [08:04] *hvxgr (~wl2v_usrn@freenode-ong.pov.c33bnd.IP) has joined #techrights [08:05] highest_cubist_thrills null is an especially good option to have as the kernel is rewritten in rust [08:06] highest_cubist_thrills you could add it to the bootloader now, and then implement the null option only for kernels that have a certain percentage of rust code [08:06] highest_cubist_thrills you could add it to the bootloader now <- to the config [08:06] mjg59_ Something for next April [08:07] highest_cubist_thrills sadly, we are living in the eternal april [08:07] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:08] highest_cubist_thrills it would make a good sequel to groundhog day [08:09] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [08:10] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [08:10] *hvxgr has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [08:10] *hvxgr (~wl2v_usrn@freenode-ong.pov.c33bnd.IP) has joined #techrights [08:17] *highest_cubist_thrills has quit (connection closed) [08:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-11.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-12.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [08:20] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot) has joined #techrights [08:21] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@freenode/user/Noisytoot) has joined #techrights [08:24] *Noisytoot has quit (Excess Flood) [08:25] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #techrights [08:26] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot) has joined #techrights [08:33] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [08:45] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [08:46] DaemonFC I have Mandy up and about. [08:46] DaemonFC I had to help him to the shower. [08:46] DaemonFC That COVID shot really fucked him up. [08:46] DaemonFC I shouldn't have asked him to get it. [08:47] DaemonFC I already know they make him way sicker than me. [08:47] DaemonFC I don't recall him sleeping like this after the others. [08:48] DaemonFC He went to bed on Sunday night and now it's the middle of the night on Wednesday (3 AM). [08:48] DaemonFC I don't think I'm ever going to ask him to take another one after this. [08:48] DaemonFC This is terrible. [08:51] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 81.23 k/sec., IPFS upstream 67.38 average k/sec., average swarm size 53.06 ● Oct 12 [09:03] mjg59_ maybe give him some agency in this respect? [09:12] DaemonFC Says mjg59_ the vaccine salesman. [09:12] DaemonFC His doctor was more imposing than I was. [09:12] DaemonFC Maybe fucking tell her that. [09:13] DaemonFC I had to fight them off of him because they don't believe in patient rights and were rushing to give him a fourth jab of the old vaccine 6 weeks ago. [09:13] DaemonFC Which would have had this unfolding then and have been of little benefit. [09:14] DaemonFC They get money if they inject him with something so they've been trying to give him all sorts of crap he doesn't even need. Like the Monkeypox vaccine. [09:15] DaemonFC He has worse insurance than I do. [09:15] DaemonFC I wish I could take him to my doctor. She's so much better than those people he goes to. [09:16] DaemonFC They're incompetent. [09:18] DaemonFC mjg59_, You're acting like I held a gun on him. I said I would prefer if he did but that it was his decision. [09:18] DaemonFC It's those idiots at the Health Department that are always going *jab jab jab* and then he comes out and doesn't even know what they gave him. [09:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-11.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-12.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [09:20] DaemonFC A lot of it's not even necessary. Not even plausibly necessary. [09:20] DaemonFC They go *jab jab jab* "Well, that was $300 from his insurance for us!". [09:29] DaemonFC mjg59_, How hard did you fuck up to have to virtue signal this much? [09:40] TR News Trademarks https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/11/oatly-attempted-to-trademark-barista-in-new-zealand-but-lost-after-opposition/ | Source: Techdirt [09:40] TR Bot Attempted To Trademark Barista In New Zealand But Lost After Opposition | Techdirt [09:40] TR News FOIA https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/11/justice-department-files-disgusting-attack-on-journalist-jason-leopold-for-being-good-at-his-job/ | Source: Techdirt [09:40] TR Bot Department Files Disgusting Attack On Journalist Jason Leopold For Being Good At His Job | Techdirt [09:54] *frog has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:55] *frog (~frog@pa58mtxm8bjpq.irc) has joined #techrights [09:59] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Oct 12 [10:00] TR News "At this point, it seems exceptionally likely that Elon Musk will own Twitter within a few weeks." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/11/if-musk-completes-his-twitter-takeover-his-fans-might-want-to-start-supporting-section-230/ | Source: Techdirt [10:00] TR Bot Musk Completes His Twitter Takeover, His Fans Might Want To Start Supporting Section 230 | Techdirt [10:00] TR News Whistleblower Lawsuit https://thedissenter.org/investment-fund-defrauding-paycheck-prot/ | Source: The Dissenter [10:00] TR Bot DOJ Settles Whistleblower Lawsuit Involving PPP Fraud [10:00] TR News surveillance https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/11/university-rolls-back-bizarre-laboratory-surveillance-tech-deployment-after-students-call-bullshit/ | Source: Techdirt [10:00] TR Bot Rolls Back Bizarre Laboratory Surveillance Tech Deployment After Students Call Bullshit | Techdirt [10:01] TR News Gulag Fiber https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/11/google-fiber-shows-signs-of-life-promises-100-gbps-service/ | Source: Techdirt [10:01] TR Bot Fiber Shows Signs Of Life, Promises 100 Gbps Service | Techdirt [10:01] TR News "Microsoft today released updates to fix at least 85 security holes in its Windows operating systems and related software" https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/10/microsoft-patch-tuesday-october-2022-edition/ | Source: Krebs On Security [10:01] TR Bot Microsoft Patch Tuesday, October 2022 Edition Krebs on Security [10:06] TR News 10 OpenOffice Tips and Tricks to Improve Productivity https://www.maketecheasier.com/mastering-openoffice-tips-and-tricks-for-your-openoffice-part-i/ [10:06] TR Bot 10 OpenOffice Tips and Tricks to Improve Productivity - Make Tech Easier [10:12] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [10:13] TR News EMMC https://hackaday.com/2022/10/11/dumping-an-emmc-chip-with-many-bodge-wires/ | Source: Hackaday [10:13] TR Bot An EMMC Chip With Many Bodge Wires | Hackaday [10:13] TR News Programming https://hackaday.com/2022/10/11/arm-programming-by-example/ | Source: Hackaday [10:13] TR Bot Programming By Example | Hackaday [10:15] TR News PayPal https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/11/everyone-seems-to-be-getting-the-story-about-paypal-and-its-supposed-2500-fines-for-misinfo-wrong/ | Source: Techdirt [10:15] TR Bot Seems To Be Getting The Story About PayPal And Its Supposed $2,500 Fines For Misinfo Wrong | Techdirt [10:15] *lukaso666 has quit (Quit: , !) [10:15] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [10:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-11.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-12.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [10:22] TR News Inflation https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/federal-reserve-inflation-poverty/ | Source: The Nation [10:22] TR Bot The Human Costs of the Feds War on Inflation | The Nation [10:56] *Redfoxmoon (~Red@freenode-vq3.aj5.jaj210.IP) has joined #techrights [10:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 13.70 k/sec., IPFS upstream 96.86 average k/sec., average swarm size 130.10 ● Oct 12 [11:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. 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Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-11.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-12.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [12:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 10.45 k/sec., IPFS upstream 147.80 average k/sec., average swarm size 117.91 ● Oct 12 [13:04] MinceR 12 084937 < highest_cubist_thrills> the other is the null option, which tells kernel not to run at all [13:04] MinceR it was recently enabled by default for my X270 [13:05] MinceR i suppose it's there to help people migrate to OpenBSD [13:06] TR News (NEW): Blender 3.4 3D Graphics Software Promises Native Wayland Support on Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/Blender_3_4_3D_Graphics_Software_Promises_Native_Wayland_Suppor.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/Blender_3_4_3D_Graphics_Software_Promises_Native_Wayland_Suppor.gmi [13:06] TR Bot Tux Machines Blender 3.4 3D Graphics Software Promises Native Wayland Support on Linux [13:07] TR News (NEW): Spotube Flutter based lightweight Spotify client http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/Spotube_Flutter_based_lightweight_Spotify_client.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/Spotube_Flutter_based_lightweight_Spotify_client.gmi [13:07] TR Bot Tux Machines Spotube Flutter based lightweight Spotify client [13:09] TR News "Prof. Jeffrey Sachs sheds light on the "alternative hypothesis" that COVID could be a biotech blunder." https://scheerpost.com/2022/10/11/why-the-chair-of-the-lancets-covid-19-commission-thinks-the-us-government-is-preventing-a-real-investigation-into-the-pandemic/ | Source: Scheerpost http://techrights.org/2011/01/10/lancet-gates-exxon-mobil/ [13:09] TR Bot the Chair of the Lancet's COVID-19 Commission Thinks the US Government Is Preventing a Real Investigation Into the Pandemic - scheerpost.com [13:09] TR Bot Gates Foundation Pays the Lancet Journal Now Distorts Academic Literature Too | Techrights [13:13] TR News Chess https://hackaday.com/2022/10/11/seeing-if-cheating-at-chess-the-hard-way-is-even-possible/ | Source: Hackaday [13:13] TR Bot If Cheating At Chess The Hard Way Is Even Possible | Hackaday [13:13] TR News Jeffrey Sachs https://scheerpost.com/2022/10/11/jeffrey-sachs-us-biotech-possibly-behind-covid-origins-and-cover-up/ | Source: Scheerpost [13:13] TR Bot Sachs: US Biotech Possibly Behind Covid Origins and Cover-Up - scheerpost.com [13:15] TR News "It's clear what their intentions are: reaching into the American people's pockets and stealing their hard-earned benefits." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/11/social-security-grave-danger-if-gop-retakes-congress-advocates-warn | Source: Common Dreams [13:15] TR Bot Social Security 'In Grave Danger' If GOP Retakes Congress, Advocates Warn [13:16] *horseface has quit (Quit: PING TIMEOUT!!! >9000 FOR SURE!!!) 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[13:39] TR Bot First Court in California Suppresses Evidence from Overbroad Geofence Warrant | Electronic Frontier Foundation [13:40] TR News "Education systems desperately need more and better funding across low- and lower-middle-income countries." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/11/1-3-worlds-poorest-countries-spend-more-debt-repayments-education | Source: Common Dreams [13:40] TR Bot 1 in 3 of World's Poorest Countries Spend More on Debt Repayments Than Education [13:41] TR News "The solution to stabilizing the global economy is not going to be found in debt restructuring but rather from debt cancellation." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/11/activists-disrupt-meeting-demand-loan-sharks-imf-and-world-bank-cancel-all-debt | Source: Common Dreams [13:41] TR Bot Activists Disrupt Meeting to Demand 'Loan Sharks' IMF and World Bank Cancel All Debt [13:42] TR News starbucks https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/11/former-starbucks-manager-tells-nlrb-he-was-ordered-punish-pro-union-workers | Source: Common Dreams [13:42] TR Bot Former Starbucks Manager Tells NLRB He Was Ordered to Punish Pro-Union Workers [13:44] TR News (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/Android_Leftovers.gmi [13:44] TR Bot Tux Machines Android Leftovers [13:47] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [13:48] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [13:51] *bnchs has quit (connection closed) [13:51] *horseface (~horseface@6wrtk7v3dgyhu.irc) has joined #techrights [13:53] TR News Americas Rich https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/10/11/americas-rich-dominate-the-ranks-of-our-worlds-wealthiest-why/ | Source: Counter Punch [13:53] TR Bot Rich Dominate the Ranks of Our Worlds Wealthiest. Why? - CounterPunch.org ● Oct 12 [14:11] TR News (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/Security_Leftovers.gmi [14:11] TR Bot Tux Machines Security Leftovers [14:14] *horseface has quit (Quit: PING TIMEOUT!!! >9000 FOR SURE!!!) [14:14] *horseface (~horseface@6wrtk7v3dgyhu.irc) has joined #techrights [14:18] TR News (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/Programming_Leftovers.gmi [14:18] TR Bot Tux Machines Programming Leftovers [14:18] TR News (NEW): Devices Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/Devices_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/Devices_Leftovers.gmi [14:18] TR Bot Tux Machines Devices Leftovers [14:18] TR News (NEW): Weird Recommendation of OpenOffice (in 2022) and Linux Foundation Puff Piece http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/Weird_Recommendation_of_OpenOffice_in_2022_and_Linux_Foundation.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/Weird_Recommendation_of_OpenOffice_in_2022_and_Linux_Foundation.gmi [14:18] TR Bot Tux Machines Weird Recommendation of OpenOffice (in 2022) and Linux Foundation Puff Piece [14:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-11.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-12.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [14:22] *matteobin (~matteobin@tecziqbycf9k2.irc) has joined #techrights [14:22] schestowitz[TR] wb, matteobin [14:22] matteobin Thank you! Good afternoon to everyone. [14:22] matteobin How are you guys? [14:22] TR News Links 12/10/2022: Microsoft Failing to Patch Highly Critical (and Actively-Exploited) Flaws Again | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/12/actively-exploited-microsoft/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/12/actively-exploited-microsoft/ [14:22] TR Bot Links 12/10/2022: Microsoft Failing to Patch Highly Critical (and Actively-Exploited) Flaws Again | Techrights [14:28] *Redfoxmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [14:30] schestowitz[TR] matteobin: good [14:30] schestowitz[TR] battling a boss today [14:30] schestowitz[TR] which is fun [14:30] schestowitz[TR] the rest of us... not sure [14:30] matteobin What game are you playing? [14:30] schestowitz[TR] but today will be a veyr productive day, and has been veery much so... so far [14:30] schestowitz[TR] no, boss at work [14:30] schestowitz[TR] not a game [14:30] matteobin Ah :D [14:31] schestowitz[TR] I have leverage [14:31] schestowitz[TR] they want to introduce "smart" phones [14:31] matteobin Battling about what? [14:32] matteobin You are a sysadmin. What do you need a "smart" phone for? [14:32] schestowitz[TR] exactly [14:33] schestowitz[TR] but let me continue on that [14:33] schestowitz[TR] most people do not need one [14:33] schestowitz[TR] far more occupations than sysadmins [14:33] schestowitz[TR] I could list view occupations that do need them [14:33] schestowitz[TR] usually the travelling salesman/plumber types [14:34] matteobin Yep, that's true. [14:35] schestowitz[TR] BUT [14:35] schestowitz[TR] they don't need "smart" phones [14:35] schestowitz[TR] they just need mobile, portable comms tool [14:35] schestowitz[TR] so they have had that since 80s or 90s [14:35] schestowitz[TR] int he 90s they became more widely available [14:36] matteobin I have a smart phone, but not for work. I don't use it that much. It's ON only when I'm at the office or when I'm not moving. [14:36] matteobin Dumb phones are nice. [14:36] schestowitz[TR] in the mid 80s you could get a phone in the car [14:36] schestowitz[TR] with a big antenna on top of the car [14:37] matteobin Even in the 60s! [14:37] schestowitz[TR] and usually some expensive motorola gear [14:37] schestowitz[TR] matteobin: in civilian market? [14:37] schestowitz[TR] 60s? [14:37] matteobin There's a Bond movie in which Bond has a phone on his car. [14:37] matteobin From Russia With Love. [14:38] matteobin https://jamesbond.fandom.com/wiki/1935_Bentley_3%C2%BD_Litre [14:38] TR Bot 1935 Bentley 3 Litre | James Bond Wiki | Fandom [14:41] matteobin Probably it was not for the civilian market. [14:46] schestowitz[TR] ah [14:46] schestowitz[TR] when was gps first introduced? [14:46] schestowitz[TR] gps is read only [14:46] matteobin Dunno. [14:46] schestowitz[TR] but sattellite communication (two way) soon followed for "high budget sector" [14:46] schestowitz[TR] the mobile antennas came decades later [14:47] schestowitz[TR] so mobile phones became cheap [14:52] *pdopa (~9a1cbc6b@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [14:53] *mib_oym9ov (~9a1cbc6b@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [14:54] mib_oym9ov hallo [14:55] TR News Surveillance https://www.maketecheasier.com/google-docs-third-party-smart-chips/ [14:55] TR Bot Google Introduces Third-Party Smart Chips in Docs - Make Tech Easier [14:55] pdopa hallo [14:56] TR News "Ref is a universal version of list-ref, hash-table-ref etc." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/ref [14:57] TR News Tools vs standards gemini://idiomdrottning.org/tools-vs-standards [14:57] TR News "Since Linux seems to be the theme of the week (and if not, I'll make it so *sips Early Grey*), I'll do another post about it." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1149 [14:58] *mib_oym9ov has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [14:58] *pdopa has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [14:59] matteobin Hello!\ [14:59] matteobin Sorry for the typo. [14:59] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [14:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 13.55 k/sec., IPFS upstream 148.18 average k/sec., average swarm size 123.66 [14:59] schestowitz[TR] sometimes people don't know what IRC is [14:59] TR News (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/today_s_howtos.1.gmi [14:59] TR Bot Tux Machines today's howtos ● Oct 12 [15:00] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [15:01] matteobin schestowitz[TR]: What do you refer to? [15:03] schestowitz[TR] some people who use the 'webapp' [15:03] schestowitz[TR] like pdopa [15:03] schestowitz[TR] mibbit and kiwiirc [15:04] schestowitz[TR] btw, is that you in gemini? [15:04] schestowitz[TR] or another matteo? [15:04] schestowitz[TR] I saw a capsule the othert day [15:04] schestowitz[TR] but it's .nl suffix [15:04] schestowitz[TR] https://box.matto.nl/about.html [15:04] TR Bot - box.matto.nl [15:04] matteobin I don't use gemini. It's not me. [15:04] schestowitz[TR] Go to: gopher://box.matto.nl [15:05] *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #techrights [15:05] *psymin (~psymin@user/psymin) has joined #techrights [15:11] matteobin Nice website, I approve. [15:11] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [15:12] schestowitz[TR] :-) [15:15] TR News Spammy article: "As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases." https://www.ubuntupit.com/best-linux-tutorial-books-need-download-now/ [15:15] TR Bot 27 Best Linux Tutorial Books That You Need To Download Now [15:16] TR News openmamba 20221012, gnu linux distro from Italy, has been released (new release with KDE) https://openmamba.org/en/blog/category/openmamba/news/ [15:16] matteobin I prefer physical books. [15:16] TR Bot News | openmamba [15:17] matteobin I spend too much time in front of a monitor. [15:17] TR News "We are happy to announce the release of Qt Creator 9 Beta!" Proprietary software though :/ https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-creator-9-beta-released [15:17] TR Bot Qt Creator 9 Beta released [15:18] schestowitz[TR] matteobin: physical books don't need battery [15:18] schestowitz[TR] and can be read in brigght sun [15:18] TR News (NEW): 12 Best Terminal Apps for Ubuntu Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/12_Best_Terminal_Apps_for_Ubuntu_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/12_Best_Terminal_Apps_for_Ubuntu_Linux.gmi [15:18] TR Bot Tux Machines 12 Best Terminal Apps for Ubuntu Linux [15:19] TR News ICBM is boosting Microsoft surveillance and Proprietary Crap(TM). Red Hat isn't on our side. Check the parent company, also co-lobbyist with Microsoft FOR software patenting. https://www.itjungle.com/2022/10/12/kyndryl-wants-to-connect-your-ibm-i-to-microsoft-azure/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/IBM [15:19] TR Bot Kyndryl Wants to Connect Your IBM i to Microsoft Azure - IT Jungle [15:19] TR Bot IBM - Techrights [15:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-11.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-12.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [15:22] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [15:22] TR News While BBC begs famous criminal Bill Gates for bribes... in change for covering up his crimes https://www.bbc.com/news/world-63213567 [15:22] TR Bot profits from livestreams of families begging - BBC News [15:24] matteobin Physical books are better. The only great thing about digital books is indexing and search. [15:24] TR News Vulnerability Management: Context From Code to CLOWN - Container Journal https://containerjournal.com/features/vulnerability-management-context-from-code-to-cloud/ [15:24] TR Bot Vulnerability Management: Context From Code to Cloud - Container Journal [15:24] *horseface_ (~horseface@5kyq3yire5i3w.irc) has joined #techrights [15:25] schestowitz[TR] matteobin: the search is temporal [15:25] *horseface has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:25] schestowitz[TR] and you need to keep working to preserve the data [15:25] schestowitz[TR] like moving it from one spinning rust to another [15:26] matteobin Yes. However the same can be said for films: you can't preserve films as easily as you can with books. [15:26] TR News IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, October 11, 2022 Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/12/irc-log-111022/ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/12/irc-log-111022/ [15:26] TR Bot IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, October 11, 2022 | Techrights [15:27] schestowitz[TR] matteobin: many films weree lost [15:27] schestowitz[TR] in california fires in recent years [15:27] schestowitz[TR] the masters copies, and unaired footage, gone forever [15:27] matteobin In that case it's the medium issue, not the technology's. [15:27] schestowitz[TR] right [15:27] schestowitz[TR] films have another issue [15:27] schestowitz[TR] quality degrades over time [15:28] schestowitz[TR] and if you digitise early enough [15:28] schestowitz[TR] then it's a lot of work and money to maintain [15:28] schestowitz[TR] books are easier to quality-restore [15:28] schestowitz[TR] or OCR [15:28] matteobin However maybe it's better to preserve films in digital form. [15:28] schestowitz[TR] it's already too late [15:29] schestowitz[TR] many of those are 30s and 50s films [15:29] matteobin You can try to restore them. [15:29] schestowitz[TR] a centruy later a lot of damage to the origins [15:29] schestowitz[TR] and not even algorithms can correct all that [15:29] matteobin Loss is part of life. [15:29] schestowitz[TR] I scanned many photo albums [15:29] schestowitz[TR] to digitise them before thr red shift ruins them completely [15:29] matteobin I guess you can't win them all. [15:29] schestowitz[TR] it's just mitigation [15:30] schestowitz[TR] perfectionists are sad people [15:30] TR News (NEW): CPU-X an Alternative to CPU-Z for Linux (UPDATED) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/CPU_X_an_Alternative_to_CPU_Z_for_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/CPU_X_an_Alternative_to_CPU_Z_for_Linux.gmi [15:30] TR Bot Tux Machines CPU-X an Alternative to CPU-Z for Linux (UPDATED) [15:30] matteobin Indeed! [15:30] TR News (NEW): Firefox View Doesnt Feel Like a Feature, Mozilla. It Feels Like a Nag http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/Firefox_View_Doesn_t_Feel_Like_a_Feature_Mozilla_It_Feels_Like_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/Firefox_View_Doesn_t_Feel_Like_a_Feature_Mozilla_It_Feels_Like_.gmi [15:30] TR Bot Tux Machines Firefox View Doesnt Feel Like a Feature, Mozilla. It Feels Like a Nag [15:33] TR News LKML: Catalin Marinas: [GIT PULL] arm64 updates for 6.1-rc1 https://lkml.org/lkml/2022/10/5/450 Source: uni Indiana | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lkml.org/lkml/2022/10/5/450 [15:33] TR Bot LKML: Catalin Marinas: [GIT PULL] arm64 updates for 6.1-rc1 [15:33] TR News The Kernel Memory Sanitizer (KMSAN) https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/diff/Documentation/dev-tools/kmsan.rst?id=27bc50fc90647bbf7b734c3fc306a5e61350da53 [15:33] TR Bot kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree [15:40] *horseface_ has quit (Quit: PING TIMEOUT!!! >9000 FOR SURE!!!) [15:41] TR News (NEW): In praise of ffmpeg http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/In_praise_of_ffmpeg.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/In_praise_of_ffmpeg.gmi [15:41] TR Bot Tux Machines In praise of ffmpeg [15:41] TR News (NEW): Stable Kernels: Linux 6.0.1. Linux 5.19.15, and Linux 5.15.73 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/Stable_Kernels_Linux_6_0_1_Linux_5_19_15_and_Linux_5_15_73.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/Stable_Kernels_Linux_6_0_1_Linux_5_19_15_and_Linux_5_15_73.gmi [15:41] TR Bot Tux Machines Stable Kernels: Linux 6.0.1. Linux 5.19.15, and Linux 5.15.73 [15:43] TR News "Despite what Tony Stark says, the word hackers really stuck. Because its easy to say, it has a derisive impression to those who do the deed for selfish ends, while remaining technically trendy." https://hackwarenews.com/what-is-hacking-and-how-do-hackers-hack/ [15:43] TR Bot What is Hacking? and How do Hackers Hack? - Hack Ware News [15:46] TR News 397.5 - Anything You Can Do Linux Does It Better - mintCast https://mintcast.org/2022/10/12/397-5-anything-you-can-do-linux-does-it-better/ Source: mintCast Pocast | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//mintcast.org/2022/10/12/397-5-anything-you-can-do-linux-does-it-better/ [15:46] TR Bot 397.5 Anything You Can Do Linux Does It Better mintCast [15:46] TR News (NEW): I Made A Keyboard For My Pi Using The xTool M1 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/I_Made_A_Keyboard_For_My_Pi_Using_The_xTool_M1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/I_Made_A_Keyboard_For_My_Pi_Using_The_xTool_M1.gmi [15:46] TR Bot Tux Machines I Made A Keyboard For My Pi Using The xTool M1 [15:47] TR News "I had some fun when I blogged about using a bot to read my blog post. While fun, it wasnt a particularly pleasant way to consume blog content. The audio is still a bit robotic, with little care for timing, ephasis and stress on words." https://popey.com/blog/2022/10/reading-my-own-blog-posts/ [15:47] TR Bot Reading My Own Blog Posts (no bots!) - Alan Pope's blog [15:48] TR News It is safest NOT to have a "smart" (spy) home https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/10/12/how-a-smart-home-can-be-a-safer-home/ [15:48] TR Bot How a smart home can be a safer home | Arduino Blog [15:49] TR News IBm-sponsored IBM propaganda cannon https://www.itjungle.com/2022/10/12/four-hundred-monitor-october-12/ [15:49] TR Bot Four Hundred Monitor, October 12 - IT Jungle [15:50] TR News "Actinius Icarus SoM DK development board follows the Arduino Uno form factor and is equipped with the companys Icacus SoM based on Nordic Semi nRF9160 system-in-package with LTE Cat-M, NB-IoT, and GPS connectivity." https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/10/12/arduino-development-board-nrf9160-module/ [15:50] TR Bot Arduino-shaped development board ships with a Nordic Semi nRF9160 module - CNX Software [15:50] TR News (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/Android_Leftovers.1.gmi [15:50] TR Bot Tux Machines Android Leftovers [15:51] *horseface (~horseface@5kyq3yire5i3w.irc) has joined #techrights [15:58] TR News [GIT PULL] RISC-V Patches for the 6.1 Merge Window, Part 1 https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/mhng-6190fb79-f9f6-41bd-90f3-d4d6009d41a5@palmer-ri-x1c9/ [15:58] TR Bot [GIT PULL] RISC-V Patches for the 6.1 Merge Window, Part 1 - Palmer Dabbelt [15:59] TR News "Researchers have used thermal cameras and ML guessing techniques to recover passwords from measuring the residual heat left by fingers on keyboards." https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/10/recovering-passwords-by-measuring-residual-heat.html [15:59] TR Bot Passwords by Measuring Residual Heat - Schneier on Security ● Oct 12 [16:00] TR News SCs direction: Stop prosecuting people under S.66A https://internetfreedom.in/sc-direction-stop-prosecuting-people-under-the-unconstitutional-s-66a/ Source: Internet Freedom Foundation | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//internetfreedom.in/sc-direction-stop-prosecuting-people-under-the-unconstitutional-s-66a/ [16:00] TR Bot SCs direction: Stop prosecuting people under S.66A [16:06] TR News It is malware that ought not be used at all ttps://economictimes.indiatimes.com/prime/technology-and-startups/whatsapps-impossible-choice-three-reasons-why-the-app-will-be-badly-hit-by-the-telecom-bill/primearticleshow/94770881.cms [16:12] TR News ICBM helping other malicious, anti-Free software, anti-human rights firms https://www.itjungle.com/2022/10/12/ibm-i-salesforce-api-integration-without-writing-a-single-line-of-code/ see http://techrights.org/2020/09/27/salesforce-works-for-ice/ [16:12] TR Bot IBM i Salesforce API Integration Without Writing A Single Line Of Code - IT Jungle [16:12] TR Bot The OSIs President Apparently Does Not Know That His Own Employer (Salesforce) Works for ICE | Techrights [16:18] TR News Rust as attack on the GPL, proponent of Microsoft, CoC, censorship for war criminals etc. https://www.phoronix.com/news/uutils-0.0.16 [16:18] TR Bot 0.0.16 Released As Rust-Based GNU Coreutils Replacement - Phoronix [16:19] TR News itsfoss is posting SPAM for protonvpn (these URLs are SPAM) https://news.itsfoss.com/protonvpn-stealth/ [16:19] TR Bot Proton VPN Launches New VPN Protocol to Fight Censorship [16:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. 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With the 2.16 release, were finally ready to introduce some impressive features that mark a new chapter for UNIGINE Engine." https://unigine.com/news/2022/unigine-2-16-asset-store-vulkan-directx-12-ros-integration-new-window-manager [16:26] TR Bot 2.16 - Asset Store, Vulkan & DirectX 12, ROS Integration, New Window Manager [16:27] TR News [Book] Red Hat Enterprise Linux 9 Administration | Pablo Iranzo Gmez blog https://iranzo.io/blog/2022/10/12/book-red-hat-enterprise-linux-9-administration/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//iranzo.io/blog/2022/10/12/book-red-hat-enterprise-linux-9-administration/ [16:27] TR Bot [Book] Red Hat Enterprise Linux 9 Administration | Pablo Iranzo Gmez blog [16:27] TR News IBM SPAM. Lacks disclosure. IBM sponsored this SPAM. https://www.itjungle.com/2022/10/12/ibm-unveils-fall-2022-tech-refreshes-for-ibm-i/ [16:27] TR Bot IBM Unveils Fall 2022 Tech Refreshes for IBM i - IT Jungle [16:28] TR News (NEW): mesa 22.2.1 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/mesa_22_2_1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/mesa_22_2_1.gmi [16:28] TR Bot Tux Machines mesa 22.2.1 [16:30] TR News "Digital transformation" as ICBM's code words for "VENDOR LOCKIN" https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/10/digital-transformation-why-emotion-matters [16:30] TR Bot Digital transformation: Why emotion matters | The Enterprisers Project [16:31] TR News CIOs aka glorified IMPOSTERS https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/10/cio-role-5-tips-success [16:31] TR Bot CIO role: 5 secrets to success | The Enterprisers Project [16:33] TR News This has nothing to do with WordPress. It's applicable to blogging in general. https://thishosting.rocks/become-a-professional-wordpress-blogger/ [16:33] TR Bot Striving to Become a Professional WordPress Blogger? Keep These 6 Things in Mind [16:33] TR News (NEW): Red Hat / IBM Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/Red_Hat_IBM_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/Red_Hat_IBM_Leftovers.gmi [16:33] TR Bot Tux Machines Red Hat / IBM Leftovers [16:35] TR News Awesome tools for Free Software Contribution - DEV Community https://dev.to/surajondev/awesome-tools-for-open-source-contribution-36cm [16:35] TR Bot Awesome tools for Open Source Contribution - DEV Community [16:39] TR News (NEW): RustDesk - An Open Source Remote Desktop Software for Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/RustDesk_An_Open_Source_Remote_Desktop_Software_for_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/RustDesk_An_Open_Source_Remote_Desktop_Software_for_Linux.gmi [16:39] TR Bot Tux Machines RustDesk - An Open Source Remote Desktop Software for Linux [16:40] TR News (NEW): SBC Case Builder 2.0 released with GUI http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/SBC_Case_Builder_2_0_released_with_GUI.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/SBC_Case_Builder_2_0_released_with_GUI.gmi [16:40] TR Bot Tux Machines SBC Case Builder 2.0 released with GUI [16:41] TR News "Data Science" = misleading buzzword (not statistics). Data is not a science and spying on people's data is a human rights abuse, immoral https://www.fosslife.org/how-data-professionals-spend-their-time [16:41] TR Bot How Data Professionals Spend Their Time [16:48] TR News Michael Larabel: AMD ads again [16:51] TR News Mozilla isn't about browser technology anymore; it's marketing spam, pushing "stories" to you like social control media (disinformation sites) do https://blog.mozilla.org/en/uncategorized/npr-education-reporter-anya-kamenetz/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/Mozilla [16:51] TR Bot A longtime NPR education reporter on her favorite corners of the internet [16:51] TR Bot Mozilla - Techrights [16:52] TR News Mozilla turns Firefox into spam machine https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/10/firefox-view-doesnt-feel-like-a-feature-mozilla number of users will collapse faster... [16:52] TR Bot Firefox View Doesn't Feel Like a Feature, Mozilla. It Feels Like a Nag - OMG! Ubuntu! [16:57] TR News Spamnil: I call Proprietary(R) and Heavily Patented(TM) sorted-rss-feeds.txt "open" because Zemlin and Sheela Microsoft pay me for openwashing, i.e. lying. LaaS. L for lies. [16:58] TR News Sheela Microsoft (Jim Zemlin's wife) should be arrested for fraud. She's 'running away'... http://techrights.org/2022/08/30/zemlins-are-volatile/ http://techrights.org/2022/08/28/linux-foundation-revenue-plunges/ [16:58] TR Bot After Defrauding People in New York Stock Exchange (Now Class Action for Securities Fraud) Jim Zemlins Wife Quits Bakkt to Dodge Liability | Techrights [16:58] TR Bot Linux Foundation Revenue Plunges ($18,000,000 Decrease in One Year) and Jim Zemlins Wife Has Her Company Sued for Securities Fraud (Class Action) | Techrights [16:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 11.55 k/sec., IPFS upstream 133.86 average k/sec., average swarm size 121.50 ● Oct 12 [17:00] TR News If Jim Zemlin was gay, he'd marry Bernie Madoff [17:01] TR News 10 Desktop Publishing Tools That Didnt Make It https://tedium.co/2022/10/12/forgotten-desktop-publishing-tools-history/ [17:01] TR Bot 10 Desktop Publishing Tools That Didnt Make It [17:04] TR News Sean Michael Kerner paid to write HEY HI puff pieces for obscure firms without promise... looking to raise money from fools, by leveraging buzzwords and paying publishers for "buzz" https://venturebeat.com/ai/levity-raises-seed-round-debuts-no-code-ai-workflow-automation-platform/ [17:04] TR Bot raises seed round, debuts no-code AI workflow automation platform | VentureBeat [17:04] TR News Sean Michael Kerner: HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI puff pieces.... https://venturebeat.com/ai/vectaras-ai-based-neural-search-as-a-service-challenges-keyword-based-searches/ [17:04] TR Bot AI-based neural search-as-a-service challenges keyword-based searches | VentureBeat [17:05] TR News What Is Ubuntu? https://www.itprotoday.com/development-techniques-and-management/what-ubuntu From Humanity for Others to http://techrights.org/2022/10/06/ubuntu-working-for-bill/ [17:05] TR Bot What Is Ubuntu? | ITPro Today: IT News, How-Tos, Trends, Case Studies, Career Tips, More [17:05] TR Bot [Meme] From Humanity for Others to | Techrights [17:17] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@h635kpe3hju7k.irc) has joined #techrights [17:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. 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[18:57] *horseface (~horseface@5kyq3yire5i3w.irc) has joined #techrights [18:58] *schestowitz[TR2] (~schestowitz[TR]@ngvjyiryrrbba.irc) has joined #techrights [18:59] *Guest91 (~schestowi@2a00:23c4:c383:c901:527a:c831:903e:7fb0) has joined #techrights [18:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.91 k/sec., IPFS upstream 157.73 average k/sec., average swarm size 117.91 ● Oct 12 [19:08] TR News SpellBinding: BHIUSTM Wordo: FEEDS gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-10-12.gmi [19:15] TR News The Open Source Initiative (OSI) Speaks for Microsoft, Which is Worse Than Before | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/12/osi-soft/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/12/osi-soft/ [19:15] TR Bot The Open Source Initiative (OSI) Speaks for Microsoft, Which is Worse Than Before | Techrights [19:19] *highest_cubist_thrills has quit (connection closed) [19:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-11.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-12.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [19:31] AdmFubar we control the vertical, we control the horizontal.... https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-defender-adds-command-and-control-traffic-detection [19:31] TR Bot Microsoft Defender adds command and control traffic detection [19:37] schestowitz[TR] snake oil [19:37] schestowitz[TR] proprietary [19:37] schestowitz[TR] with back doors :D [19:38] schestowitz[TR] security the mjg 'way' [19:38] schestowitz[TR] way cool! back doors! [19:50] TR News Reddit and Other Social Control Media Exist to Deceive and Censor | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/12/reddit-is-censorship/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/12/reddit-is-censorship/ [19:50] TR Bot Reddit and Other Social Control Media Exist to Deceive and Censor | Techrights [19:56] AdmFubar now you caught roy [19:56] AdmFubar caught it.. [19:57] AdmFubar https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2022/10/a-official-smoking-gun-on-covidisairborne-denial-by-hospitals-because-they-didnt-want-spend-money-changing-their-physical-plant.html [19:58] TR Bot An Official Smoking Gun on #CovidIsAirborne Denial by Hospitals Because They Didn't Want to Spend Money Changing Their Physical Plant | naked capitalism [19:59] schestowitz[TR] wait [19:59] schestowitz[TR] I want to understand how this relates to me [19:59] schestowitz[TR] based on the headline at least [19:59] schestowitz[TR] later this month 3 years [19:59] schestowitz[TR] no COVID-19 in our home [19:59] schestowitz[TR] we still cover the toilet when flushing [19:59] schestowitz[TR] wiping and washing all incoming food items [19:59] schestowitz[TR] quarantining everything ● Oct 12 [20:00] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@uax6j9r5apawe.irc) has joined #techrights [20:00] schestowitz[TR] meanwhile some people I know walk like zombies due to temporary laralyses [20:00] schestowitz[TR] among other issues like swollen knees and foggy brains [20:00] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: I am writitng about comed [20:00] DaemonFC Mandy's doing better. [20:00] schestowitz[TR] and in the video I forgot what com is short for [20:01] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: until the 8th and 9th jab [20:01] DaemonFC It's like whatever was going on just suddenly let up after he went back to bed again. [20:01] DaemonFC That got scary. [20:01] DaemonFC Last night he needed me to help him in the shower and make him some food. [20:01] schestowitz[TR] "Prof. Jeffrey Sachs sheds light on the "alternative hypothesis" that COVID could be a biotech blunder." https://scheerpost.com/2022/10/11/why-the-chair-of-the-lancets-covid-19-commission-thinks-the-us-government-is-preventing-a-real-investigation-into-the-pandemic/ | Source: Scheerpost http://techrights.org/2011/01/10/lancet-gates-exxon-mobil/ [20:01] TR Bot the Chair of the Lancet's COVID-19 Commission Thinks the US Government Is Preventing a Real Investigation Into the Pandemic - scheerpost.com [20:01] TR Bot Gates Foundation Pays the Lancet Journal Now Distorts Academic Literature Too | Techrights [20:02] DaemonFC and in the video I forgot what com is short for [20:02] DaemonFC "Commonwealth Edison" [20:02] DaemonFC Exelon owns them and kept the name. [20:03] DaemonFC In New York, they're ConEd for "Consolidated Edison". [20:04] DaemonFC Exelon owns a lot of the US power grid, but they use various names to disguise it a little. [20:04] DaemonFC The term "Commonwealth" is fitting since they repeatedly steal tax money and have a monopoly. [20:04] schestowitz[TR] doi they share their wealth with you? [20:04] DaemonFC You can get anyone's name on your bill, but the power has to be "delivered" by ComEd, which bills you for that, on the same bill. [20:05] DaemonFC In practice, this leads to electricity scammers who want to know your electric bill account number so they can switch you and get a commission without your knowledge. [20:05] DaemonFC To some fake power company. [20:05] schestowitz[TR] Gas Prices https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/11/upset-about-high-gas-prices-ro-khanna-says-blame-big-oil | Source: Common Dreams [20:05] TR Bot Upset About High Gas Prices? Ro Khanna Says 'Blame Big Oil' [20:06] DaemonFC They come in the building. It happened to me in South Shore Chicago and again in Waukegan. [20:06] DaemonFC I ran them off this time. I told them I was calling the police. [20:07] DaemonFC That was maybe 2-3 months ago? [20:08] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], I can't imagine what led to the Microsoft deal except to say this. ComEd gets a lot of taxpayer money. There's almost nothing that goes on in there without Illinois government saying what it'll be, and usually you find out later that the "regulators", it goes back and forth. [20:08] DaemonFC ComEd literally bribes our public officials. [20:09] DaemonFC Our public officials give ComEd (Exelon) what it wants. [20:09] DaemonFC And then they go "And also, you're going to put these people on your board and you're going to do a diversity hiring program in Chicago.". [20:10] DaemonFC So I mean, Illinois government pressures everyone to have a bunch of proprietary, especially Microsoft, junk on their computer just to do anything, like paying taxes and asking courts for stuff. [20:10] DaemonFC So the ComEd (Exelon) move to Microsoft Azure is funny, right? It's funny how "coincidences" work. [20:10] AdmFubar if you really wanna freak them out take their picture [20:11] DaemonFC Then suddenly they're feeding a bunch of JavaScript programs that don't comply with standards from several Microsoft domains before you can pay your electric bill. [20:11] DaemonFC So, Pale Moon and SeaMonkey can no longer log in. [20:12] TR News Open Source Initiative (OSI) blog posts, podcasts and public talks are just Microsoft propaganda wrapped up as OSI (buying the oppositions voice to legitimise oneself) http://techrights.org/2022/10/12/osi-soft/ [20:12] TR Bot The Open Source Initiative (OSI) Speaks for Microsoft, Which is Worse Than Before | Techrights [20:12] TR News Were sad to learn that many people get their news from Reddit, clearly failing to see that it is a Censorship Machine that oftentimes censors facts on behalf of corporations and plutocrats http://techrights.org/2022/10/12/reddit-is-censorship/ [20:12] TR Bot Reddit and Other Social Control Media Exist to Deceive and Censor | Techrights [20:12] DaemonFC Safari must be able to (not surprising since one of the major choke points is a -webkit- prefixed style sheet). [20:12] DaemonFC So GNOME Web can as well. [20:12] DaemonFC But there's no reason for this to be happening since that element was standardized and all the major browsers now support both. [20:13] DaemonFC You could use both and all browsers that have some version of autofill would recognize it. [20:13] DaemonFC And I do believe Pale Moon has autofill, but not the -webkit- version. [20:14] DaemonFC Back in like Firefox 48 or something, Mozilla aliased webkit prefixes to the standardized versions to "fix" bad Web sites that misbehaved in Firefox. [20:14] DaemonFC And I guess the result is that Microsoft took that as a license to kill and just used prefixes. [20:18] TR News Pfizer Not Testing COVID-19 Vaccines Properly https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/12/testing-by-pfizer/ [20:18] TR Bot Blog Archive Pfizer Not Testing COVID-19 Vaccines Properly [20:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-11.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-12.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [20:22] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], Conde Nasty rated Shitcago one of the best places to live. [20:23] DaemonFC Yeah, best place to get a screwdriver in the neck if you're an old man walking the dog in one of the "better" parts and get too close to a red line stop. [20:23] DaemonFC :) [20:23] DaemonFC Like, that was one of the "random" things that we walked past when we lived in Rogers Park. [20:23] DaemonFC Now the Demonrat Party wants to decriminalize possession of enough hard drugs to kill 1,500 people. [20:24] DaemonFC https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/10/11/mchenry-county-officials-denounce-illinois-lawmakers-efforts-to-decriminalize-fentanyl-heroin-and-cocaine/ [20:24] TR Bot McHenry County officials denounce Illinois lawmakers' efforts to decriminalize fentanyl, heroin and cocaine [20:24] DaemonFC They'll have us more fucked up than Portland shortly. [20:24] DaemonFC They've given up having laws because they're the left. [20:24] DaemonFC mjg59_, ^ [20:26] DaemonFC Come to Chicago. I'll let you out somewhere around 103rd and Stony Island at 2 AM. [20:26] DaemonFC You can take in some night air and hobnob with the locals. [20:26] DaemonFC I believe it will be informative. [20:27] DaemonFC We have a guest room if you can make back up here. [20:29] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], You know, compared to mjg59_ I'm tougher than nails. [20:29] DaemonFC He doesn't have to see 3 dead bodies in an average week as he drives past the liquor stores, gas stations, and Walmart. [20:30] DaemonFC I think out of the two of us, I'm far more qualified to have an opinion on social issues, because I can't imagine there's much of this going on near a house with a $3 million dollar mortgage on it. [20:32] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #techrights [20:37] TR News Newer Is Not Always Better and It Tends to be More Malicious | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/12/newer-is-not-always-better/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/12/newer-is-not-always-better/ [20:37] TR Bot Newer Is Not Always Better and It Tends to be More Malicious | Techrights [20:42] schestowitz[TR] comed ^ [20:43] schestowitz[TR] https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ovc91S1cLM4 [20:43] TR Bot Monkeypox, excellent news - Invidious [20:45] schestowitz[TR] 2-3 caases a day [20:45] schestowitz[TR] in europe [20:45] schestowitz[TR] so alarming [20:46] DaemonFC mjg59_ probably got his jab so he won't miss out. [20:47] DaemonFC I'm sure he's at the conference giving them his "agency". [20:48] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], Mom now says COVID's not a big deal because she had it. I added, "And you took Paxlovid, which may well have headed off the worst of it, which many people can't get now that the government's only paying for vaccines. But hey, no big deal right?". [20:48] DaemonFC Not for her. She has Medicare. [20:49] DaemonFC No matter what stupidity she does that blows up in her face, her Medicare and Medigap plans cover 100% of whatever the financial harm would have been last year. [20:49] TR News (NEW): Happy birthday, GNU Health! http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/Happy_birthday_GNU_Health.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/Happy_birthday_GNU_Health.gmi [20:50] TR Bot Tux Machines Happy birthday, GNU Health! [20:50] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], I'm enjoying this searx.prvcy.eu. [20:50] DaemonFC I've got it set up to combine Google, Brave, and Yahoo. [20:50] DaemonFC For some reason, it defaults to including Qwant, and that just makes the results worse. [20:51] TR News Today in Techrights http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/Today_in_Techrights.1.shtml [20:51] TR Bot Tux Machines Today in Techrights [20:53] TR News Intel a dying brand https://lore.kernel.org/linux-acpi/20221011031843.960217-1-masahiroy@kernel.org/ see http://techrights.org/2022/09/30/linus-torvalds-award/ [20:53] TR Bot [RFC PATCH] Remove Intel compiler support - Masahiro Yamada [20:53] TR Bot Intel Treats Linus Torvalds as a Marketing Mascot | Techrights [20:54] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], From what I've observed from my mom she lacks empathy in general and has severe difficulty imagining herself in someone else's situation. [20:55] starstreak It would be this matt that you put on the floor and it would have all these conclusions that you jump to [20:55] schestowitz[TR] mat? [20:55] schestowitz[TR] or mjg? [20:56] starstreak oh mat lol [20:56] starstreak quoting office space [20:56] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: I already know your mom is american [20:57] DaemonFC That's not a uniquely American trait. It's a sign of mental illness, actually. [20:57] schestowitz[TR] starstreak: quopting it would be great [20:57] DaemonFC I'm sure it goes back to how she was raised by her mother. [20:57] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: her mom [20:57] schestowitz[TR] hoarding food [20:57] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: beat me to it [20:58] DaemonFC If a psychiatrist could examine her mother, he could be a best selling author in an entirely new branch of the field a year from now. [20:58] schestowitz[TR] from madame harmon [20:58] schestowitz[TR] to dame harmon [20:58] TR News Amarok Linux OS 22.09 overview | Free and easy-to-use Linux Operating System - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=nWih8GsHfyY | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/nWih8GsHfyY [20:58] TR Bot Amarok Linux OS 22.09 overview | Free and easy-to-use Linux Operating System - Invidious [20:59] schestowitz[TR] if she does not see therapists, she is missing out [20:59] schestowitz[TR] that would be great [20:59] TR News LINUX is BETTER than macOS in these 5 areas! - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=8yjW-kMivWQ | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/8yjW-kMivWQ [20:59] TR Bot LINUX is BETTER than macOS in these 5 areas! - Invidious [20:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 39.46 k/sec., IPFS upstream 169.53 average k/sec., average swarm size 121.10 [20:59] TR News PayPal Misinformation Fines Musk Criticized Were Published by Mistake https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-10-10/paypal-misinformation-fines-musk-criticized-were-published-by-mistake [20:59] TR Bot - Are you a robot? ● Oct 12 [21:02] TR News ICBM pays slaves with NFTs of pandas: "You helped to test Fedora 37 i18n features" https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/f37-i18n-test-day-participant [21:02] TR News How To Block TikTok From Tracking You (Even Non-Users) - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=0VvtdPDHe-s | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/0VvtdPDHe-s [21:02] TR Bot Fedora Badges [21:02] TR Bot How To Block TikTok From Tracking You (Even Non-Users) - Invidious [21:03] *frog has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:04] *frog (~frog@cngiqnnw62iag.irc) has joined #techrights [21:04] TR News "When geometrical solids took hold of the Renaissance imagination, they promised the quintessence of the third dimension in its pure and unadulterated form. Noam Andrews discovers how polyhedra descended from mathematical treatises to artists studios, distilling abstract ideas into objects one could see and touch." https://publicdomainreview.org/essay/polyhedral-perspective/ [21:04] TR Bot The Polyhedral Perspective The Public Domain Review [21:06] TR News AMD Ryzen 7000 CPUs are faster in Linux with Spectre V2 mitigations enabled https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Ryzen-7000-CPUs-are-faster-in-Linux-with-Spectre-V2-mitigations-enabled.659547.0.html [21:06] TR Bot Ryzen 7000 CPUs are faster in Linux with Spectre V2 mitigations enabled - NotebookCheck.net News [21:06] DaemonFC mjg59_ can see all of the therapists he wants and go "$300 an hour? LOL! Okay! Figure out what's going on with my partner today.". [21:06] DaemonFC "BTW, you don't have the COVID do you? We can talk on one of these Chinese phone apps that's spying on us!" [21:09] TR News (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/Security_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/Security_Leftovers.1.gmi [21:09] TR Bot Tux Machines Security Leftovers [21:10] schestowitz[TR] torvalds might need a phsyiootherapist [21:10] schestowitz[TR] not therapist Torvals' legs might soon be thin like matt's [21:10] schestowitz[TR] (no I didn't say "the rapist") [21:11] schestowitz[TR] (some people see "rapist" in everyone) [21:11] schestowitz[TR] (maybe projection, like calling people "transphobic after spending 25 years saying "transphobic shit") [21:14] TR News Only 16 people helped test Fedora 37 i18n features. Fedora used to be much bigger than this. The slave pool of ICBM grew... tiny. No wonder. Look what they did to CentOS (yes, people can take the hint) https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/f37-i18n-test-day-participant [21:15] DaemonFC You can't even spell grapes without rapes. [21:15] DaemonFC It's a conspiracy. [21:15] TR News ICBM: we don't have money, we fire top-notch engineers who cost $150,000 per annum to hire graduates for $15,000/annum in India. Hey, you want to help? Here's a task. We'll pay you in PANDA NFT. [21:15] MinceR you can't spell "slaughter" without "laughter" [21:16] schestowitz[TR] gangsta' rapes [21:16] DaemonFC I was thinking about this when I remembered the California Raisins ads they used to have, which cost the grape growers a fortune to produce and led to the end of the California Grape marketing board. [21:16] DaemonFC Then I was thinking about all the rapes that California has. [21:16] schestowitz[TR] Uncle is racist [21:16] DaemonFC Of course, big liberal state with a deteriorating justice system. [21:16] schestowitz[TR] Aunt also [21:16] schestowitz[TR] Plantation [21:16] schestowitz[TR] Soon fruit [21:16] schestowitz[TR] and strange [21:17] DaemonFC Democrats run California so there's going to be a lot of California Rapes. [21:17] schestowitz[TR] until all words are bad [21:17] schestowitz[TR] queer and gay are good [21:17] schestowitz[TR] they're taken by the victims [21:17] DaemonFC It wouldn't surprise me if the next Democrat bill in Illinois makes raping someone a misdemeanor. [21:17] DaemonFC They're already going there with crack and other stuff. [21:17] schestowitz[TR] selling or using? [21:17] schestowitz[TR] or manufacrturing? [21:17] DaemonFC Well, possession of up to 2 grams. [21:17] schestowitz[TR] the last is worse [21:17] DaemonFC That's enough fentanyl to kill 1,500 people. [21:18] schestowitz[TR] no manufacturers and imports, no problem [21:18] DaemonFC And it's going to be a Class A Misdemeanor that they can plead down from. [21:18] DaemonFC Fucking Democrats. [21:18] DaemonFC https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/10/11/mchenry-county-officials-denounce-illinois-lawmakers-efforts-to-decriminalize-fentanyl-heroin-and-cocaine/ [21:18] TR Bot McHenry County officials denounce Illinois lawmakers' efforts to decriminalize fentanyl, heroin and cocaine [21:19] DaemonFC "House Bill 3447 was passed in 2021 by the Illinois House and has since been sent to the Illinois Senate for consideration." "The bill makes possession of less than three grams of fentanyl, cocaine or heroin a Class A misdemeanor." "Authorities say that 0.002 grams of fentanyl and 0.015 grams of heroin, respectively, are enough to cause a fatal overdose." [21:19] DaemonFC 3 grams, sorry. [21:19] TR News "Khronos Group Welcomes Beijing 7invensun Science & Technology Co. as Contributor Member".. the propaganda terms: "7invensun is the first technology company in China with independent proprietary and intellectual [sic] property [sic] rights" [sic] [21:19] DaemonFC 3 grams / 0.002 grams = Enough to kill 1,500 people. [21:19] DaemonFC Class A Misdemeanor. [21:20] schestowitz[TR] drugs wars are hard to fight [21:20] DaemonFC Soft on crime Democrats are going to unleash hell on this state. [21:20] schestowitz[TR] because it's easy to make narcotics [21:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-11.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-12.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [21:20] schestowitz[TR] waste of police resources [21:20] DaemonFC Right now, you get caught with that shit, you go away and you're not doing it in prison. [21:20] DaemonFC That's about the only thing you can do besides executions. [21:20] DaemonFC Russia would probably just go ahead and execute them. [21:20] DaemonFC One of the few things they got right. [21:20] TR News Pfizer lied https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/12/testing-by-pfizer/ [21:21] TR Bot Blog Archive Pfizer Not Testing COVID-19 Vaccines Properly [21:21] TR News The modern Web, the modern phones and supposedly better servers (clown computing, digital transformation, modernisation i.e. typically many containers) create more complexity, lower security, and leave us worse off http://techrights.org/2022/10/12/newer-is-not-always-better/ [21:21] TR Bot Newer Is Not Always Better and It Tends to be More Malicious | Techrights [21:32] TR News (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/today_s_howtos.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/today_s_howtos.2.gmi [21:32] TR Bot Tux Machines today's howtos [21:33] TR News (NEW): 10 Best Lightweight Linux Distros To Revive Your Old Computer http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/10_Best_Lightweight_Linux_Distros_To_Revive_Your_Old_Computer.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/10_Best_Lightweight_Linux_Distros_To_Revive_Your_Old_Computer.gmi [21:33] TR Bot Tux Machines 10 Best Lightweight Linux Distros To Revive Your Old Computer [21:38] TR News Jim Zemlin thanked GAFAM this month. Yes, Linux... "GAFAM"! https://yewtu.be/0RcKh19qzTU?t=78 [21:38] TR Bot Keynote: Welcome & Announcements - Jim Zemlin with Dr. Ibrahim Haddad & Daniel Goldscheider - Invidious [21:43] TR News Even a year later Jim Zemlin still spreads thew "log4j" FUD for Microsoft. It was patched 10 months ago! ● Oct 12 [22:00] *highest_cubist_thrills (~highest_cubist_thri@62ibinkdp82y8.irc) has joined #techrights [22:02] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], I don't quite know what to make of my mom. She would frequently enter into unstable relationships and marriages, even when it was pretty clear she'd be better off without them or hardly even knew them. [22:03] DaemonFC Trying to use that to get out of a situation she was in and then ending up in another situation. [22:03] DaemonFC I don't think she had any real financial need for these people. She often made more money than they did (except for my dad) and could have paid her bills if she lived on her own. [22:04] TR News Jim Zemlin Idolises Microsoft and Bill Gates (in New Talk Published This Week), Applauding a Back Doors Company and Jeffrey Epsteins Enabler | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/12/jim-zemlin-applauding-bill-gates/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/12/jim-zemlin-applauding-bill-gates/ [22:04] TR Bot Jim Zemlin Idolises Microsoft and Bill Gates (in New Talk Published This Week), Applauding a Back Doors Company and Jeffrey Epsteins Enabler | Techrights [22:04] DaemonFC She's even said she didn't really even like my dad that much but she wanted to get out of my grandmother's house. [22:04] DaemonFC I'm surprised that went on for 25 years. [22:05] DaemonFC It was this constant struggle to see which personality would dominate the marriage until it collapsed. [22:05] DaemonFC I wonder what mjg59_'s shrink would say. [22:06] DaemonFC I suppose codependency can hold things together for a while. [22:07] DaemonFC Maybe mjg59_'s partner is one of those "I'll just fix everything that's wrong with him." people. [22:08] DaemonFC That always ends in disappointment, because most people don't have any introspection and don't believe there's anything that needs to change. [22:08] DaemonFC "I'm perfect. It's the rest of you who are crazy." [22:09] DaemonFC From what I've seen of mjg59_ lashing out at....everyone else, this could explain his mentality. [22:09] DaemonFC The more people he lashes out at, the lower the odds that they could all be wrong and he's right. [22:11] MinceR "Nobody is perfect but I'm pretty fucking close" [22:13] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [22:15] schestowitz[TR] schestowitz[TR], I don't quite know what to make of my mom. She would frequently enter into unstable relationships and marriages, even when it was pretty clear she'd be better off without them or hardly even knew them. [22:15] schestowitz[TR] catholicism [22:15] schestowitz[TR] or religion [22:16] schestowitz[TR] fear of being unmarried [22:16] schestowitz[TR] "what would ma 'friends' think?" [22:16] DaemonFC That's odd. You think it was actually that much of an expectation? [22:16] DaemonFC I'm sure you could get by as an unmarried woman in the late 1970s. [22:17] schestowitz[TR] "YOU ARE DIVORCED? ME TOOOO!! Let's get married" [22:17] DaemonFC Yeah, Gonad was married 5 times already before mom. [22:17] DaemonFC You know what the odds are of being lucky #6. [22:18] TR News NSA works with Microsoft on back doors and CISA is acting like a Microsoft agency these days https://sdtimes.com/security/nsas-and-cisas-recent-security-guidance-the-good-and-the-bad/ [22:18] TR Bot NSAs and CISAs recent security guidance: The good and the bad - SD Times [22:18] DaemonFC Statistically, it's proven that the more times a person has been divorced, the greater the odds that their next marriage will fail as well. [22:18] DaemonFC By marriage #3, there's like a one in five chance that this is the one that works. [22:19] TR News Pull staging driver updates from Greg https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=3002b7a31894cfa0e57080f7e0961b5fee788aa3 [22:19] TR Bot kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree [22:19] TR News linuxtechlab turned into vpn webspam or spamfarm. sad... [22:19] DaemonFC People who have been divorced three times..... There's something going on with them. [22:19] DaemonFC Once or twice could have been the other person, but three? This is getting suspicious. [22:20] schestowitz[TR] yeah [22:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-11.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-12.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [22:20] schestowitz[TR] i notice many 3 timers [22:20] schestowitz[TR] to the point where they say ban marriage [22:20] schestowitz[TR] or gey engaged yet never marry [22:20] schestowitz[TR] they engage as a sort of "reserved" [22:20] schestowitz[TR] and never progress from there [22:20] schestowitz[TR] for various reasons [22:20] schestowitz[TR] like failed marriages before [22:20] schestowitz[TR] or patents leaving trauma behind [22:21] schestowitz[TR] so the cloest they get to marriage is "we've been engaged [22:21] DaemonFC So Gonad was married 7 times at his point of death. [22:21] DaemonFC His 7th wife was also his 5th. [22:21] schestowitz[TR] it's like a non-matrimonial prenup [22:22] DaemonFC Yeah, I mean I don't know how many times I would have been married, honestly. It was illegal until late 2014. [22:22] DaemonFC So John would have been the only one where it was technically possible. [22:22] DaemonFC But I didn't see any upside in doing that. [22:23] highest_cubist_thrills it's like a non-matrimonial prenup <- i dont think thats legally binding unless its a commonlaw marriage state [22:23] highest_cubist_thrills in which event the engagment is still irrelevant, only living together counts [22:23] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [22:23] DaemonFC I could have seen like, maybe one of them that I might have gotten married to, and it would have ended up in divorce a few years later because he was a cheater. Fun to be around, but don't ever trust him. One of those. [22:23] DaemonFC So I may have been married and divorced once already, maybe not. [22:23] highest_cubist_thrills besides, marriage outside of legal committment is a 1st amendment issue [22:24] highest_cubist_thrills so a ban would be unconstitutional (outside usa, consider udhr, eu, etc) [22:24] DaemonFC It's not a decision I take lightly, so I mean, that one may have duped me long enough to make a bad decision. [22:24] TR News ICBM shill Timothy Prickett Morgan (sponsored, tainted) now helps Microsoft with openwashing. The criminals are... "open" https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/10/12/after-long-last-a-commercial-grade-sonic-network-operating-system/ [22:24] TR Bot After Long Last, A Commercial-Grade SONiC Network Operating System [22:24] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [22:25] highest_cubist_thrills of course some people on their first marriage might feel some superiority to divorced people, which i think is odd if youre not religious [22:25] highest_cubist_thrills religion looks down own the divorced, but its hardly better to stay in a marriage that doesnt work (or is abusive) [22:25] TR News Barilla and Arduino: This is not your grandmas pasta! | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/10/12/barilla-and-arduino-this-is-not-your-grandmas-pasta/ Source: Arduino | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/10/12/barilla-and-arduino-this-is-not-your-grandmas-pasta/ [22:26] TR Bot Barilla and Arduino: This is not your grandmas pasta! | Arduino Blog [22:26] highest_cubist_thrills so what exactly is the point of looking down on divorced couples, other than to emulate religious conservatives? [22:26] highest_cubist_thrills idk, maybe you do. its hardly a progressive stance. [22:26] highest_cubist_thrills next youll be interviewing women to see if they qualify for abortions... [22:27] highest_cubist_thrills "oh im not against them, we just have some rules" <- most places do, but thats not the point [22:27] highest_cubist_thrills conservatives arent exactly understanding about it, they want to make the rules harder to discriminate and discourage based on their conservative beliefs [22:28] highest_cubist_thrills next on #techrights "why divorced people are losers and stand by your (abusive) man" (or wife) [22:28] highest_cubist_thrills "thats not what i meant" <- no its not, you really didnt give it any thought at all though [22:29] highest_cubist_thrills divorce is only a sin in opinion of people with haughty opinions, sunday christians, etc [22:29] highest_cubist_thrills an atheist you say? [22:29] highest_cubist_thrills and a progressive lol [22:30] schestowitz[TR] to be clear, I did not say this [22:30] highest_cubist_thrills "we got divorced" "fucking hippies! you could have at least stayed together for the children" [22:31] highest_cubist_thrills no [22:31] highest_cubist_thrills you didnt think about it [22:31] schestowitz[TR] you are mistaking me explaining what some groups think [22:31] schestowitz[TR] for my actual stance [22:31] highest_cubist_thrills i dont know your actual stance [22:31] schestowitz[TR] right [22:31] highest_cubist_thrills but i cant imagine what "progressive" and "atheist" ideals got you to your critique either [22:31] highest_cubist_thrills so i just assume youre more "conservative" than you realise. ofc i could be wrong. [22:31] schestowitz[TR] atheism does not say anythin about marriage [22:31] highest_cubist_thrills i mean "socially" conservative [22:32] schestowitz[TR] we got a civil service [22:32] highest_cubist_thrills no, but its generally at odds with the haughty prejudices of religion [22:32] highest_cubist_thrills generally [22:32] schestowitz[TR] usually the reeligious crown wants big parties [22:32] schestowitz[TR] or "it doesn't count" [22:32] schestowitz[TR] they look down on drunken vegas marriages [22:32] highest_cubist_thrills if you want to look down on people for divorce, the TRADITIONAL venue is religion. its not mandatory-- its just the most common reason [22:33] schestowitz[TR] marriage is not needed [22:33] highest_cubist_thrills usually the reeligious crown wants big parties <- not hindus. sikhs do. [22:33] schestowitz[TR] animals go in couple a lot [22:33] schestowitz[TR] like geese [22:33] schestowitz[TR] and stay forever a coupl [22:33] schestowitz[TR] euntil one dies [22:33] schestowitz[TR] then they choose to stay alone [22:33] highest_cubist_thrills i mean ok, wedding vs reception. [22:33] highest_cubist_thrills animals go in couple a lot <- they also shit in the woods. [22:33] schestowitz[TR] highest_cubist_thrills: substance ves industry [22:33] highest_cubist_thrills and eat on the ground [22:33] schestowitz[TR] *vs [22:34] highest_cubist_thrills i mean if our goal is to emulate other mammals we have a lot of changes to make [22:34] highest_cubist_thrills we wont need any more furniture at least [22:34] schestowitz[TR] the concept of marriage is not human per se [22:34] schestowitz[TR] except ceremonial [22:34] schestowitz[TR] and some animals are more faithful to their partner than humans [22:35] DaemonFC Some lady just tried to accuse mom of hitting her car at the CostCo parking lot. [22:35] highest_cubist_thrills marriage is not needed <- says the married man? [22:35] schestowitz[TR] british humans think they need 10-100 pairs of shoes [22:35] highest_cubist_thrills i hope your sofa is comfy [22:35] DaemonFC And then ran off when my mom called the police and gave the cops the lady's license plate number. [22:35] schestowitz[TR] 10 is like "lower bound" [22:35] DaemonFC Fucking scammers are everywhere. [22:35] schestowitz[TR] for women esp. [22:35] schestowitz[TR] so more furniture needed [22:35] schestowitz[TR] dead trees or wood chips [22:36] schestowitz[TR] women have 200 feet [22:36] highest_cubist_thrills i mean you can do fake wood from plastic, but its probably better for outdoor furniture [22:36] schestowitz[TR] according to "famous" "designers" [22:36] highest_cubist_thrills women have 200 feet <- thats 198 fewer than ive counted [22:36] highest_cubist_thrills er, more [22:36] highest_cubist_thrills ive counted 198 fewer rather [22:36] schestowitz[TR] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiva [22:36] TR Bot Shiva - Wikipedia [22:36] highest_cubist_thrills unless you mean 200 women [22:37] highest_cubist_thrills well shivas male iirc [22:37] highest_cubist_thrills i think shakti has two feet [22:38] highest_cubist_thrills idk, my point is, people shouldnt stay in a bad marriage [22:38] TR News "Between 2022-10-05 and 2022-10-12 there were 27 New Steam games released with Native Linux clients. For reference, during the same time, there were 292 games released for Windows on Steam, so the Linux versions represent about 9.2 % of total released titles." https://boilingsteam.com/new-steam-games-with-native-linux-clients-2022-10-12-edition/ [22:38] TR Bot New Steam Games with Native Linux Clients - 2022-10-12 Edition - Boiling Steam [22:38] highest_cubist_thrills and if you realise that, you realise the necessity of divorce [22:38] highest_cubist_thrills because not all marriages are good [22:38] highest_cubist_thrills people change (some do) [22:38] highest_cubist_thrills you can stay in a bad marriage or end one [22:39] highest_cubist_thrills you accept that as part of life or look down on it like a sunday christian would [22:39] highest_cubist_thrills "it just isnt done, you know..." [22:39] highest_cubist_thrills divorce has literally saved some peoples lives [22:39] highest_cubist_thrills (like abortion) [22:39] highest_cubist_thrills its not a tenuous connection-- in a perfect world its a right [22:40] highest_cubist_thrills all i can guess is you think youre smarter / better / more patient or something for being married for 10 years [22:41] DaemonFC you can stay in a bad marriage or end one [22:41] highest_cubist_thrills ive known people who were together a lot longer than that-- in a marriage that was abusive and horrible [22:41] schestowitz[TR] highest_cubist_thrills: multitasking, sorry is slow to reply [22:41] highest_cubist_thrills for what? [22:41] schestowitz[TR] *if [22:41] schestowitz[TR] starstreak: today I updaed bubi and rebooted [22:41] DaemonFC The same crowd that argued against no fault divorce also are against abortion. [22:41] schestowitz[TR] so our discussion about age of kernel is now moot :-) [22:41] DaemonFC In some sense of the word, they're right. [22:41] DaemonFC Divorce is always one person's fault more than the other. [22:41] highest_cubist_thrills you can prevent the older kernel from running with the null option :) [22:42] DaemonFC But it costs so much to have a jury trial, it's usually not even worth trying to assign blame. [22:43] DaemonFC You can write at-fault back into a prenup, you know, and make it interesting. [22:44] DaemonFC "If the marriage ends in divorce due to adultery, then the at-fault party shall forfeit their entire entitlement in the marital estate, custody of any children produced by the marriage, and shall pay the other party for all expenses involving investigations, court costs, and attorney's fees.". [22:45] TR News ODROID-H3 and ODROID-H3+ SBCs feature Intel Celeron N5105, Pentium N6005 processor https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/10/12/odroid-h3-and-odroid-h3-sbc-intel-celeron-n5105-pentium-n6005-processor/ [22:45] TR Bot ODROID-H3 and ODROID-H3+ SBC's feature Intel Celeron N5105, Pentium N6005 processor - CNX Software [22:45] TR News (NEW): Kubuntu 22.10 Kinetic Kudu: Top New Features http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/Kubuntu_22_10_Kinetic_Kudu_Top_New_Features.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/Kubuntu_22_10_Kinetic_Kudu_Top_New_Features.gmi [22:45] TR Bot Tux Machines Kubuntu 22.10 Kinetic Kudu: Top New Features [22:46] TR News (NEW): GStreamer 1.20.4 stable bug fix release http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/GStreamer_1_20_4_stable_bug_fix_release.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/GStreamer_1_20_4_stable_bug_fix_release.gmi [22:46] TR Bot Tux Machines GStreamer 1.20.4 stable bug fix release [22:47] schestowitz[TR] Divorce is always one person's fault more than the other. [22:47] starstreak schestowitz[TR], linucks btw [22:47] schestowitz[TR] maybve [22:47] schestowitz[TR] but getting them them to agree on whose fault is the hard part [22:47] schestowitz[TR] lawyers 'win' this 'debate' [22:47] highest_cubist_thrills getting them them to agree on whose fault is the hard part <- no fault divorce ftw [22:47] schestowitz[TR] starstreak: no, linux lts [22:47] schestowitz[TR] ftw [22:48] starstreak oh lts lol [22:49] schestowitz[TR] rolling on the floor distreo [22:49] highest_cubist_thrills long term support cat is loooooooooong [22:49] AdmFubar come on up to the lab and see what's on the slab! https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-63195653 [22:49] TR Bot brain cells play video game Pong - BBC News [22:49] schestowitz[TR] she told him he was little ednian [22:49] schestowitz[TR] so he took viagr4 [22:50] schestowitz[TR] *endian [22:50] schestowitz[TR] AdmFubar: probably partly deceiving [22:50] schestowitz[TR] without clicking BillBC [22:50] highest_cubist_thrills gnome 5 has a new window manager underneath [22:50] highest_cubist_thrills its called obesity [22:51] schestowitz[TR] I've heard for decades of this 'research' [22:51] schestowitz[TR] like 'mind reading' [22:51] AdmFubar I read it is interesting research [22:51] schestowitz[TR] and then it tuns out to be laughable exaggerations [22:51] schestowitz[TR] "look! his brain is ACTIVE..." [22:51] schestowitz[TR] they get some basics [22:51] schestowitz[TR] like which direction the brain signals it wants to move in [22:51] schestowitz[TR] or moods [22:52] schestowitz[TR] but that's not hard [22:52] schestowitz[TR] dream-reading is mostly fiction [22:52] schestowitz[TR] like "polygraph" [22:52] schestowitz[TR] "lie" "detector" [22:52] schestowitz[TR] more like "vital signals" interrogation macvhine [22:53] schestowitz[TR] AdmFubar: they said the same [22:53] schestowitz[TR] about streing theory [22:53] schestowitz[TR] quantum mechaniscs [22:53] schestowitz[TR] quantum computers [22:53] schestowitz[TR] and many others overhyped things [22:53] starstreak highest_cubist_thrills> gnome 5 has a new window manager underneath <- >:/ [22:53] schestowitz[TR] that they never quite got right [22:53] schestowitz[TR] like "self-driving" cars [22:53] schestowitz[TR] utter BS [22:53] schestowitz[TR] 3 mice [22:53] schestowitz[TR] "metaverse" [22:53] schestowitz[TR] "smart watches" [22:54] schestowitz[TR] (they STILL suck; impractical) [22:54] highest_cubist_thrills highest_cubist_thrills> gnome 5 has a new window manager underneath <- >:/ <- okay [22:54] schestowitz[TR] every decade or two some company dabbles in that crap again [22:54] schestowitz[TR] and it never catches on [22:54] highest_cubist_thrills how ridiculous would gnome have to be, for you to dislike it [22:54] schestowitz[TR] Microsoft Bob :-) [22:54] highest_cubist_thrills i mean how much gnome would be "too much" [22:54] schestowitz[TR] Microsoft has a name for Linux [22:55] highest_cubist_thrills Microsoft Bob :-) <- thats gnome 6 [22:55] schestowitz[TR] Microsoft B00b [22:55] highest_cubist_thrills 81680085? [22:55] schestowitz[TR] https://www.networkworld.com/article/2222804/microsoft-code-contains-the-phrase--big-boobs------yes--really.html [22:55] TR Bot Microsoft code contains the phrase 'big boobs' ... Yes, really | Network World [22:55] starstreak highest_cubist_thrills, for me to dislike gnome? it would have to switch back to gtk2 and look like xfce [22:55] DaemonFC Mandy's definitely over whatever happened last night. [22:55] MinceR 12 235442 < highest_cubist_thrills> i mean how much gnome would be "too much" [22:55] highest_cubist_thrills lol [22:55] schestowitz[TR] Microsoft: we only hire the best perverts [22:55] MinceR as far as the "modern" crew is concerned, more is always better [22:56] DaemonFC He slept for over 48 hours since Sunday. [22:56] highest_cubist_thrills xfce has gotten really horrible [22:56] MinceR 12 235553 < schestowitz[TR]> Microsoft: we only hire the best perverts [22:56] highest_cubist_thrills which is too bad [22:56] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: so he can no longer transmit or contract the virus ;-) [22:56] MinceR otherwise they'd "miss out" [22:56] starstreak highest_cubist_thrills, i was *almost* considering switching to KDE when gnome decided to change gnome terminal to gnome console in the file manager [22:56] schestowitz[TR] https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/12/testing-by-pfizer/ [22:56] TR Bot Blog Archive Pfizer Not Testing COVID-19 Vaccines Properly [22:56] highest_cubist_thrills when gnome 3 came out my wife switched to xfce [22:56] starstreak highest_cubist_thrills, but a plugin fixes that [22:56] AdmFubar the bobs comment might describing certain company founders [22:57] highest_cubist_thrills but a plugin fixes that <- lol [22:57] MinceR what plugin fixes xfce4-panel crashing every time someone tries to remove a panel? [22:57] MinceR what plugin fixes xfce relying on a settings daemon? [22:57] schestowitz[TR] AdmFubar: there are two [22:57] schestowitz[TR] one is dead [22:57] starstreak MinceR, doesn't crash xfce for me when i accidentally did that in a openbsd vm [22:57] schestowitz[TR] the other is"well, he's dead" [22:57] highest_cubist_thrills "sorry we tried to force you to use somethingh that used to be configurable-- install this program to make ours less fucking stupid" [22:57] MinceR is it like the telnet randomly-lose option? [22:57] schestowitz[TR] talking of his BFF who trafficks little girls for f***ing [22:58] highest_cubist_thrills 3rd parties fixing 1st-party punch-yourself stupid fuckups [22:58] schestowitz[TR] http://techrights.org/2020/09/28/non-denying-and-false-denials/ [22:58] highest_cubist_thrills reminds me of kde 4. [22:58] TR Bot Speaking Through Spokespeople is a Sign of Weakness, Such as Non-Denying and False Denials (or: Bill Gates Never Denied His Connections to MIT Through Jeffrey Epstein) | Techrights [22:58] MinceR reminds me of windows [22:58] starstreak KDE 4 was awesome [22:58] highest_cubist_thrills what plugin fixes xfce4-panel crashing every time someone tries to remove a panel? <- icewm [22:58] MinceR kde4 was trash [22:58] schestowitz[TR] I still use it on one PC [22:58] MinceR but later kde-s are probably worse [22:58] MinceR highest_cubist_thrills: lol [22:59] highest_cubist_thrills kde4 dropped support for 1mp cameras [22:59] schestowitz[TR] rianne uses lmde, gnome, and plasma5 [22:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 15.53 k/sec., IPFS upstream 175.16 average k/sec., average swarm size 151.81 [22:59] MinceR kde4 plasma crashed all the time and forgot its settings in the process [22:59] highest_cubist_thrills kde4 plasma crashed all the time and forgot its settings in the process <- probably some bad javascript [22:59] schestowitz[TR] early kde4 [22:59] MinceR :> ● Oct 12 [23:00] schestowitz[TR] they sent linus to therapists after he teried kde 4.0 [23:00] MinceR not early kde4, "we finally made it as good as kde3 was" kde4 [23:00] MinceR (spoiler alert: they didn't. they never did.) [23:00] psydruid the panel disappeared all the time for others, it just never happened to me [23:00] schestowitz[TR] so he could tell them about the UI "nazis" [23:00] starstreak I think KDE3 is trash [23:00] highest_cubist_thrills they sent linus to therapists after he teried kde 4.0 <- kde should pay for anyone who needs therapy after 4.0 [23:00] AdmFubar https://www.theregister.com/2022/10/12/drone-roof-attack/ [23:00] TR Bot Wi-Fi spy drones used to snoop on financial firm The Register [23:00] highest_cubist_thrills I think KDE3 is trash <- yeah i hate when stuff works [23:00] MinceR of course you "think" that [23:00] schestowitz[TR] https://mail.gnome.org/archives/usability/2005-December/msg00022.html [23:00] TR Bot [Usability] Re: [Desktop_architects] Printing dialog and GNOME [23:00] schestowitz[TR] https://itwire.com/open-sauce/interface-nazis-in-torvalds-line-of-fire.html [23:00] TR Bot - 'Interface nazis' in Torvalds' line of fire [23:01] starstreak MinceR, you seem to think that xfce crashes for everyone because it happened to you [23:01] highest_cubist_thrills kde3 never crashed on me once. kde3 and kde4 were like jack spratt and his wife. [23:01] schestowitz[TR] highest_cubist_thrills: kde, made in deutschland [23:01] schestowitz[TR] sexil in the city [23:01] psydruid kde4 was terrible until the later releases [23:01] highest_cubist_thrills because it happened to you <- i can confirm xfce crashed when you messed with panels in a way that should not crash anything. [23:01] MinceR what good is a DE or any application or any website if it doesn't consume _all_ the resources of a Fugaku? [23:01] AdmFubar oh what could go wrong here! https://www.theregister.com/2022/10/11/california_digital_license_plates/ [23:01] TR Bot California legalizes digital license plates for all vehicles The Register [23:02] highest_cubist_thrills kde4 was terrible until the later releases <- by then they had squandered everyones good will [23:02] starstreak highest_cubist_thrills, i switched from KDE3 to Gnome 2, then from Gnome 3 to KDE4, then I used macOS, came back to linux and gnome 3 was pretty stable [23:02] MinceR you've paid for that hardware and you're going to use _all_ of it. [23:02] highest_cubist_thrills yeah i really only use a computer for the de. i dont need any resources for OTHER programs. [23:02] MinceR starstreak: i seem to think that xfce4 is unreliable because that's what my experience shows. [23:02] highest_cubist_thrills like windows, ive never installed anything on it and IT WORKS FINE [23:02] MinceR starstreak: i seem to think that xfce4 is poorly designed and bloated because that's what a settings daemon is. [23:03] starstreak MinceR, ok boomer [23:03] MinceR especially if i have to manually kill it and restart it so i can edit the xml file the panel is configured with [23:03] MinceR because the panel crashes when i try to change its configuration [23:03] TR News "Mycroft AIs Mimic 3, an Open Source Text-to-Speech engine I used to generate audio of a blog post." https://popey.com/blog/2022/10/setting-up-mimic3/ [23:03] starstreak maybe you should get a better computer [23:03] TR Bot Setting Up Mimic 3 - Alan Pope's blog [23:03] highest_cubist_thrills came back to linux and gnome 3 was pretty stable <- stability wasnt the problem with gnome 3 imo [23:03] MinceR yeah, that's the solution [23:04] MinceR why do anything worthwhile with the resources of my computer if i can instead waste it on crapware? [23:04] psydruid if you think it doesn't look like Mac OS, you're a boomer [23:04] starstreak psydruid, i like macOS [23:04] MinceR again, Backdoors and crapOS do that better [23:04] MinceR so what's the point of gnome OS and kde? [23:04] psydruid if you can't afford the latest hardware, you're a loser [23:04] starstreak MinceR, so i can run free software instead of proprietary garbage [23:04] highest_cubist_thrills so what's the point of gnome OS and kde? <- to cancel free software, mostly [23:05] MinceR if you can use the latest hardware on something meaningful, you're a boomer. apparently. [23:05] MinceR starstreak: you don't run free software. you run systemd. [23:05] starstreak systemd is licensed under the GPL so yeah I do run free software [23:05] MinceR and you run gnome. [23:05] starstreak gnome is also under a free software license [23:05] MinceR the Free Software Definition does not depend on the license [23:05] starstreak then you're retarded [23:05] MinceR it says something about the freedoms of users. which systemd and gnome both violate flagrantly [23:06] MinceR yeah, apparently someone who can read and understand what they read is retarded [23:06] MinceR i wonder how that works [23:06] starstreak you can't read [23:06] MinceR this is getting more interesting [23:06] starstreak and you're a towel [23:06] MinceR starstreak: can you prove any of this bullshit? [23:06] starstreak prove systemd and gnome are under a free software license? [23:07] MinceR no [23:07] MinceR prove that i can't read [23:07] MinceR but first, prove that you can read [23:07] MinceR you can start here >> https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.en.html [23:07] starstreak yeah, if you could read you would understand what free software means [23:07] TR Bot What is Free Software? - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation [23:07] psydruid you might as well just stick to Mac OS at that point [23:08] MinceR i can and i do [23:08] MinceR starstreak: unfortunately, you still confuse it with "open source" [23:08] MinceR which was not discussed. [23:09] highest_cubist_thrills the thing is, gnome really is hostile to users. openly. they dont hide it. [23:10] MinceR gnome people openly claimed that you're not supposed to be able to change the way the gnome panel looks because of "branding" [23:10] starstreak dash to dock, dash to panel, extensions [23:11] MinceR gnome people lobbied application developers to remove optional system tray support from their applications because gnome doesn't support it [23:11] TR News October 2022: MORE new COVID-19 cases than October 2021. Biden: PANDEMIC IS OVER https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries [23:11] TR Bot COVID Live - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer [23:11] highest_cubist_thrills gnome conspired with systemd and thats probably a factor in why debian decided to fuck everybody [23:11] highest_cubist_thrills because debian is gnomes bitch [23:11] highest_cubist_thrills and now theyre ibms bitch [23:12] highest_cubist_thrills and ultimately theyre microsofts bitch [23:12] highest_cubist_thrills but free software doesnt make anyone its bitch [23:12] highest_cubist_thrills and gnome isnt free software [23:13] highest_cubist_thrills the license means nothing in practice [23:13] highest_cubist_thrills it can-- if it were free software, the license would help [23:13] highest_cubist_thrills the license is necessary for it to be free software [23:13] highest_cubist_thrills what happened with tivo-- it was under the gpl too [23:13] highest_cubist_thrills and the gpl two [23:13] starstreak highest_cubist_thrills, what closed source code is in gnome? [23:13] highest_cubist_thrills closed source has nothing to with free software, what does it even mean [23:14] highest_cubist_thrills what is closed source [23:14] starstreak so i have to use a shitty DE/WM that forces me to use the console for everything to be free? [23:14] highest_cubist_thrills the free software definition is not only about source [23:14] highest_cubist_thrills so i have to use a shitty DE/WM that forces me to use the console for everything to be free? <- only if the alternatives shit on users and make them their bitches [23:15] highest_cubist_thrills i used gnome 2 btw [23:15] highest_cubist_thrills i used xfce when it was better (though mincer is right about the panel) [23:15] starstreak ok so i have to use mate to be free? [23:15] highest_cubist_thrills nah, mate is github :) [23:15] TR News Highest COVID-19 death rates (per capita): 2nd to 6th: Bulgaria, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Hungary, North Macedonia, Montenegro. Nearby nations. [23:15] starstreak lol [23:15] highest_cubist_thrills youd have to fork it LD [23:15] highest_cubist_thrills :D [23:15] starstreak thats so dumb [23:15] highest_cubist_thrills yeah thats the world we live in now [23:16] highest_cubist_thrills things get dumb when capitalists take over the free software movement [23:16] starstreak apparently i don't have the freedom to run a bloated DE [23:16] highest_cubist_thrills youre shooting the messenger [23:16] starstreak fvwm,dwm,icewm are non free because i don't have the freedom to run a bloated DE [23:16] highest_cubist_thrills i don't have the freedom to run a bloated DE <- the freedom to be shackled to a mountain of bullshit is a cynical linguistic construct [23:17] highest_cubist_thrills its like saying "i dont have the freedom to push pensioners out into the streets because i tripled the rent" [23:17] starstreak i fucking like gnome [23:17] highest_cubist_thrills i get that [23:17] highest_cubist_thrills but theyre still dicks who hate users [23:17] starstreak i should have the freedom to run whatever software i want, its my computer, not yours [23:18] highest_cubist_thrills i should have the freedom to run whatever software i want, its my computer, not yours <- this is a common misunderstanding about free softwware [23:18] highest_cubist_thrills free software does not require you to RUN free software. [23:18] highest_cubist_thrills it HELPS [23:18] highest_cubist_thrills but it is not REQUIRED [23:18] highest_cubist_thrills its BETTER, its not mandatory [23:18] highest_cubist_thrills its better in a very specific way with which you may disagree. [23:19] highest_cubist_thrills but its still better In That Way [23:19] TR News COVID-19 Pandemic Not Over (More Cases This Past Summer Than Last Year In Spite of Fewer Tests) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/12/covid-19-pandemic-not-over-more-cases-this-past-summer-than-last-year-in-spite-of-fewer-tests/ [23:19] TR Bot Blog Archive COVID-19 Pandemic Not Over (More Cases This Past Summer Than Last Year In Spite of Fewer Tests) [23:19] highest_cubist_thrills and as long as free software means "users control their computing" [23:19] highest_cubist_thrills free software will naturally be at odds with gnome trying to make users their bitch [23:19] highest_cubist_thrills or it would be, if free software werent dead... [23:19] starstreak if there is something gnome does that i don't like, there are extensions and plugins [23:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-11.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-12.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [23:20] highest_cubist_thrills if there is something gnome does that i don't like, there are extensions and plugins <- oh, yes windows [23:20] highest_cubist_thrills i remember windows [23:20] starstreak ugh [23:20] highest_cubist_thrills it had extensions and plugins. a symptom of not being able to [23:20] highest_cubist_thrills what? this is EXACTLY what i moved to free software to get away from. [23:20] highest_cubist_thrills and exactly what gnome works so hard to "bring back" [23:20] starstreak all software is shit [23:20] highest_cubist_thrills extensions and plugins and "fuck you wontfix, do it our way" [23:20] highest_cubist_thrills all software is shit <- sigh. it is now. [23:21] starstreak but i think gnome/wayland/systemd is less shitty than windows [23:21] highest_cubist_thrills i think gnome/wayland/systemd is less shitty than windows <- by what measure? [23:21] highest_cubist_thrills define "shitty" [23:21] MinceR 13 001515 < highest_cubist_thrills> i used xfce when it was better (though mincer is right about the panel) [23:21] highest_cubist_thrills or even "less hitty" [23:21] MinceR so did i [23:21] MinceR i also used gnome 1 [23:21] starstreak windows isn't unix [23:21] highest_cubist_thrills windows isn't unix <- unix is pretty dead [23:21] MinceR 13 001517 < starstreak> ok so i have to use mate to be free? [23:21] starstreak openbsd is alive and well [23:22] highest_cubist_thrills openbsd isnt unix [23:22] TR News Red Hat upselling like traditional IBM salespeople https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/introducing-red-hat-insights-integration-servicenow [23:22] TR Bot Introducing the Red Hat Insights integration with ServiceNow [23:22] MinceR does mate value the freedom of its users and community more highly than "branding" and other similar bullshit? [23:22] highest_cubist_thrills its probably reasonably close [23:22] starstreak ok so BSD isn't unix? [23:22] highest_cubist_thrills id rather use openbsd than unix [23:22] MinceR 13 002202 < highest_cubist_thrills> openbsd isnt unix [23:22] MinceR in what way? [23:22] highest_cubist_thrills bsd is DECIDEDLY NOT unix, because trademark issues :) [23:22] highest_cubist_thrills in what way? <- officially [23:22] MinceR the only way i can think of is that the Closed Group doesn't certify it [23:22] MinceR but The Closed Group can go fuck itself [23:23] MinceR and its ill-gotten trademark [23:23] MinceR s [23:23] TR News Red Hat spreads that lie that Microsoft "brought SQL Server to Linux." It did not. It's lousy Drawbridge. https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-data-platform-virtual-summit-2022 [23:23] TR Bot Red Hat at the Data Platform Virtual Summit 2022 [23:23] highest_cubist_thrills i mean i honestly think that bsd is better than unix. [23:23] MinceR they're a bunch of greedy suits with Imaginary Property dropped in their lap by novell [23:23] highest_cubist_thrills but if you ask the most official bsd people (fuck closed group) you can find [23:23] highest_cubist_thrills they will say-- its NOT unix [23:23] MinceR i honestly think that BSD _is_ Unix [23:23] MinceR and that GNU/Linux _is_ Unix [23:23] highest_cubist_thrills i honestly think that BSD _is_ Unix <- and the way YOU mean it-- it probably is [23:24] highest_cubist_thrills so we are quibbling about definitions, not status. [23:24] MinceR they obey Unix standards, they have Unix user interfaces, they tend to follow the Unix philosophy [23:24] MinceR unlike the crap The Closed Group certifies for money [23:24] TR News Red Hat pushing clown and unneeded complexity, then selling crap https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/capacity-planning-never-go-limitless [23:24] TR Bot Capacity planning: Never go limitless [23:24] starstreak macOS actually follows the posix standard more than linucks [23:24] MinceR and unlike systemd/Linux [23:24] MinceR starstreak: [citation needed] [23:25] starstreak MinceR, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POSIX#POSIX-certified [23:25] TR Bot POSIX - Wikipedia [23:25] MinceR also, crapOS has a toy UI designed for children, not a Unix UI [23:25] TR News Clown computing: the equivalent of media telling you never ever to buy a home, only ever rent from some greedy tycoons who treat you like tenanted cattle. [23:25] highest_cubist_thrills and that GNU/Linux _is_ Unix <- idk, it looks more like systemd to me. though you run devuan iirc [23:25] MinceR starstreak: i'll repeat it once more for your benefit, i don't give a fuck about whom The Closed Group certified for gobs of money. [23:25] MinceR that paper is worthless [23:25] MinceR it's worth less than toilet paper [23:26] MinceR toilet paper is at least usable for wiping asses [23:26] starstreak MinceR, ok gramps [23:26] highest_cubist_thrills /me does not, for the record, care what closed group things either [23:26] highest_cubist_thrills thinks [23:26] schestowitz[TR] apple assumes humans have one finger [23:26] MinceR i see starstreak has run out of arguments once again [23:26] starstreak MinceR, ok gramps [23:26] schestowitz[TR] I'd like to give them one [23:26] MinceR highest_cubist_thrills: i mostly run Bedrock, set up in a way that it's mostly Void [23:26] MinceR i also have Void and OpenBSD systems [23:26] highest_cubist_thrills i also have Void and OpenBSD systems <- like dual boot [23:26] highest_cubist_thrills ? [23:26] MinceR crApple's target audience can't get their fingers apart [23:27] starstreak nobody seems to run slackware which still uses lilo and some ancient rc [23:27] MinceR well, this laptop does dual boot between those, yes [23:27] highest_cubist_thrills ive never been ambitious enough to dual boot anything with bsd. i watched a video about it [23:27] MinceR i ran slackware until an upgrade fucked it up and my patience ran out [23:27] highest_cubist_thrills i managed to avoid slackware [23:27] MinceR (also, that slackware system was my experiment to rely on distro-agnostic package systems and it didn't work out) [23:27] highest_cubist_thrills curiosity and convenience and mixed reviews never lined up properly for me [23:28] MinceR i had nix, which didn't work reliably, and Gentoo RAP which had ebuilds that didn't support prefix [23:28] highest_cubist_thrills to rely on distro-agnostic package systems <- i love the idea, but if guix was the only package manager id just fucking build myself [23:28] schestowitz[TR] macs.. so east ET could use them [23:28] highest_cubist_thrills i had nix, which didn't work reliably <- systemd i think [23:28] MinceR no, that's nixos [23:28] highest_cubist_thrills oh yes [23:29] highest_cubist_thrills i didnt know there was another nix [23:29] MinceR the nix package manager itself doesn't depend on systemd, or at least didn't when i used it [23:29] highest_cubist_thrills ah, ok [23:29] starstreak linucks is faster than windows [23:29] MinceR i did try nixos, but even the installer didn't work [23:29] highest_cubist_thrills macs.. so east ET could use them <- that was a ti speak n spell [23:29] MinceR and then they went full systemd [23:29] highest_cubist_thrills but some macs remind me of a speak n spell too :) [23:29] MinceR isn't ET supposed to be fairly sophisticated? [23:29] highest_cubist_thrills well it was the 80s [23:29] *techrights-news has quit (Received malformed line) [23:29] MinceR an alien that could travel between solar systems at least [23:30] starstreak oooo ET [23:30] *starstreak downloads [23:30] *techrights-news (~techrights-news@ngvjyiryrrbba.irc) has joined #techrights [23:30] MinceR Enemy Territory? [23:30] TR News The pandering panic gemini://idiomdrottning.org/pandering "I cant believe its been almost a decade and its still a thing" [23:30] highest_cubist_thrills ACTION download <- anything with a guy named elliot eh [23:30] highest_cubist_thrills "the baxter" has one too [23:30] highest_cubist_thrills elliot sherman [23:30] starstreak highest_cubist_thrills, your irc client sucks [23:31] TR News The clock that came in from the cold gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/10/12.1 [23:31] highest_cubist_thrills your irc client sucks <- i wish it did >:) [23:31] starstreak it does, your actions are broken [23:31] starstreak you'll do /me without the action and when you quote me it says ACTION in caps lol [23:32] highest_cubist_thrills i dont think it supports any features like that [23:32] starstreak yeah its obvious [23:32] MinceR muh feechurs [23:32] starstreak even 16-bit mIRC from 30 years ago works fine [23:32] TR News (UPDATED): TUXEDO Computers Releases Live ISO of Its Ubuntu-Based TUXEDO OS Linux Distro http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/TUXEDO_Computers_Releases_Live_ISO_of_Its_Ubuntu_Based_TUXEDO_O.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/06/TUXEDO_Computers_Releases_Live_ISO_of_Its_Ubuntu_Based_TUXEDO_O.gmi [23:32] TR Bot Tux Machines TUXEDO Computers Releases Live ISO of Its Ubuntu-Based TUXEDO OS Linux Distro [23:32] highest_cubist_thrills this one runs on a ti speak n spell :) [23:32] highest_cubist_thrills /phone home [23:32] starstreak muh 30 year old scripts need to be updated so i hate systemd [23:33] highest_cubist_thrills thats not why i hate systemd [23:33] starstreak there is no such thing as free software [23:33] highest_cubist_thrills there totally was [23:33] starstreak there never was [23:33] highest_cubist_thrills there are still thousands of artifacts left behind [23:34] TR News Carson City. There are no dues, [23:34] highest_cubist_thrills there never was <- well thats silly [23:34] starstreak its not silly [23:34] TR News "Hello, glenn green here and I am trying to start a Linux Users Group here in Carson City. There are no dues, membership is free as in beer." https://www.recordcourier.com/news/2022/oct/12/carson-city-linux-users-group/ [23:34] TR Bot Carson City Linux Users Group | Serving Minden-Gardnerville and Carson Valley [23:34] highest_cubist_thrills it is [23:34] MinceR muh strawman [23:34] highest_cubist_thrills it reached its peak between 2001 and 2014 [23:35] highest_cubist_thrills i would say between 2007 and 2014 but then some people will disagree, so i move the earlier date for them [23:35] starstreak any software that is too complicated for one person is non free [23:35] highest_cubist_thrills any software that is too complicated for one person is non free <- thats not quite it [23:35] starstreak thats your definition [23:35] highest_cubist_thrills openbsd is too complicated for one person really [23:35] starstreak too bloated for one person to read the source code means non free [23:35] highest_cubist_thrills thats your definition <- funny then, that im saying it isnt [23:36] MinceR starstreak loves strawmen [23:36] highest_cubist_thrills like from the wizard of oz? [23:36] MinceR i guess they're "modern" [23:36] psydruid > any software that is too complicated for one person is non free [23:36] psydruid you got it [23:36] starstreak mincer loves 20 year old software [23:36] MinceR i like software that does its job well, regardless of how old it is [23:36] starstreak his software has to be old enough to drink [23:36] MinceR i don't like software that attempts to take over various functionalities of the OS and does them all wrong [23:37] MinceR while the authors claim it's the only true way [23:37] highest_cubist_thrills i don't like software that attempts to take over various functionalities of the OS and does them all wrong <- i can second this [23:37] starstreak muh flame war [23:37] highest_cubist_thrills if there were no flame wars, would it really be the internet? [23:37] starstreak lol touche [23:37] highest_cubist_thrills /me bows [23:37] psydruid I think we've found the biggest gnu/linsux fan in the world [23:38] highest_cubist_thrills I think we've found the biggest gnu/linsux fan in the world <- not even close [23:38] highest_cubist_thrills ive seen much worse [23:38] MinceR is this 2000? [23:38] TR News BRouter: An Open-source Offline-first Cycling Routing App https://medevel.com/brouter/ Source: Medevel | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//medevel.com/brouter/ [23:38] TR Bot BRouter: An Open-source Offline-first Cycling Routing App [23:39] TR News (NEW): 6 Kubernetes distributions leading the container revolution http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/6_Kubernetes_distributions_leading_the_container_revolution.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/6_Kubernetes_distributions_leading_the_container_revolution.gmi [23:39] TR Bot Tux Machines 6 Kubernetes distributions leading the container revolution [23:39] psydruid this is Sparta [23:39] schestowitz[TR] this is spartan:// [23:39] highest_cubist_thrills can it be sparta without a "Spartan" desktop? [23:40] highest_cubist_thrills because gnome is definitely not spartan [23:40] highest_cubist_thrills neither is kde. and xfce isnt far behind. [23:40] highest_cubist_thrills i REALLY WANT to LIKE xfce [23:40] highest_cubist_thrills unfortunately it is gnomes bitch too [23:40] highest_cubist_thrills maybe they tried not to be, points for that, but gtk is a hell of a drug [23:41] highest_cubist_thrills like crack [23:41] TR News "Builder.io is a free open-source framework agonistic library for building and design stylish web pages with drag and drop." https://medevel.com/builder-io/ [23:41] TR Bot Builder.io Builds a Web and eCommerce Pages with Drag and Drop [23:41] highest_cubist_thrills /me really thinks they should fork gtk [23:41] schestowitz[TR] user openbox [23:42] schestowitz[TR] no feh, no nothing [23:42] schestowitz[TR] menus, pagers [23:42] psydruid I just wonder with all of these DEs if people just like the way they work or the specific technologies and libraries themselves [23:42] schestowitz[TR] just blank [23:42] schestowitz[TR] my previous main machine had 2gb of ram, so openbox was a good fit [23:43] psydruid because I don't care about the specific technologies and libraries [23:43] psydruid as long as things work and are maintainable in terms of source code [23:43] TR News Linux: we add MICROSOFT PROPRIETARY CRAP... while removing potentially useful old features https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=3002b7a31894cfa0e57080f7e0961b5fee788aa3 [23:43] TR Bot kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree [23:49] TR News Road Space Comparison https://xkcd.com/2684/ [23:49] TR Bot Road Space Comparison [23:49] TR News Mike Vizard now writing puff pieces for criminals (Microsoft) [23:50] TR News This DIY steering wheel is a cheaper alternative for use in sim racing | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/10/12/this-diy-steering-wheel-is-a-cheaper-alternative-for-use-in-sim-racing/ Source: Arduino | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/10/12/this-diy-steering-wheel-is-a-cheaper-alternative-for-use-in-sim-racing/ [23:50] TR Bot This DIY steering wheel is a cheaper alternative for use in sim racing | Arduino Blog [23:51] TR News Another panda NFT for slaves of ICBM (it has no real money to compensates them with?) https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/f38-i18n-test-day-participant [23:51] TR Bot Fedora Badges [23:52] TR News "This badge has never been awarded!" I'm sure those NFTs can help net people a job... or not. 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Back doors in proprietary software ignored. http://techrights.org/2022/10/08/distraction-by-distortion/ [23:57] TR Bot Beware the Distortion of Terms Like Supply Chain, Zero Day, and Back Door (New FUD Patterns Against Free Software, a Distraction From the Real Culprits) | Techrights [23:57] TR News Ad disguised as "news" or "article" https://itwire.com/business-it-news/business-software/zoho-marks-five-years-of-web-based-business-suite-zoho-one.html [23:57] TR Bot - Zoho marks five years of Web-based business suite Zoho One [23:59] TR News Has https://devops.com/ gone defunct? Just a dump of press releases (SPAM) and other forms of webspam. In a year of two all this "ops" hype/nonsense will hopefully be passe already. [23:59] TR Bot - The Web's Largest Collection of DevOps Content