●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, March 13, 2022 ●●
● Mar 13
[00:01]	MinceR	https://abstrusegoose.com/468
[00:01]	TR Bot	 Abstruse Goose | The Invasion
[00:01]	TR News	Ulauncher: A Powerful Linux App Launcher to Improve Your Productivity Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162483
[00:01]	TR Bot	 Ulauncher: A Powerful Linux App Launcher to Improve Your Productivity | Tux Machines
[00:03]	DaemonFC	I haven't had a single kernel panic under Debian 11.
[00:03]	TR News	IBM/Red Hat Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162484
[00:03]	TR Bot	 IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines
[00:03]	DaemonFC	On two systems, since like August.
[00:03]	DaemonFC	When I installed it.
[00:04]	perfector	debian 11 is it based on windows 11?
[00:04]	MinceR	lol
[00:05]	TR News	"Today in dystopian nightmare, Walgreens replaces glass freezer doors with advertisements." https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/03/12/today-in-dystopian-nightmare-walgreens-replaces-glass-freezer-doors-with-advertisements/ wait till they install cameras in store to score you and ensure you "swallow" all the ads. It's part of the CUX. CUstomer eXperience.
[00:05]	DaemonFC	No, Windows 11 is basically Windows 10 with some lipstick. They actually added bugs to it.
[00:05]	schestowitz-TR2	DaemonFC: my uptime is 130 days now
[00:05]	DaemonFC	But it looks like a Chromebook or a Mac, and that's what matters. Unless the Windows 10 shell pops up after a glitched update.
[00:05]	perfector	linux people should stop taking advantage of windows markting
[00:05]	DaemonFC	It does sometimes.
[00:05]	schestowitz-TR2	I work on this machine heavily all day long
[00:05]	schestowitz-TR2	and it works at nights too
[00:06]	schestowitz-TR2	DaemonFC: is "11" good?
[00:06]	schestowitz-TR2	rianne uses "11"
[00:06]	schestowitz-TR2	but we also use "10"
[00:06]	schestowitz-TR2	buster
[00:06]	DaemonFC	I haven't had issues with it.
[00:06]	schestowitz-TR2	"11"
[00:06]	mimorek	I use 11
[00:07]	schestowitz-TR2	I heard Bullseye was released after a "leak" :-)
[00:07]	DaemonFC	I use a backports kernel and some newer device firmware from Testing but that's the only major change I've made.
[00:07]	schestowitz-TR2	"11"
[00:07]	perfector	lol
[00:07]	schestowitz-TR2	to distract from actual leaks
[00:07]	DaemonFC	Intel fixed some Wifi/Bluetooth instability in the later firmware.
[00:07]	perfector	windows 11 is just windows 9 under the hod
[00:07]	schestowitz-TR2	like Bill's marriage collapsing along with the Bill andf Lolita gates Foundati
[00:07]	schestowitz-TR2	and leaks about Microsoft lobbying to say "Big Tech"
[00:08]	schestowitz-TR2	and distract from its own crimes
[00:08]	DaemonFC	Windows "11" is gaining usage, very slowly and mostly all of that is from Windows 10.
[00:08]	DaemonFC	Windows overall continues to plummet.
[00:08]	schestowitz-TR2	"Look over there, 10+1=11 WOWOWOWOW. OMG!! ZDNET TOTALLYT COVER THIS!!"
[00:08]	schestowitz-TR2	Bill leaked himself in excitement
[00:08]	schestowitz-TR2	he could use as diversion
[00:09]	DaemonFC	There's people stubbornly holding out on Windows 7 until they can't nab EOL updates that they're not suppsoed to get anymore, next year.
[00:09]	schestowitz-TR2	i saw one this evening... Vista 7 in some forum
[00:09]	DaemonFC	Microsoft couldn't even design a system reliable enough to keep people without "Software Assurance" out of the 3 years of additional updates.
[00:09]	schestowitz-TR2	Vista 11 will be another 8
[00:09]	schestowitz-TR2	or ME
[00:09]	schestowitz-TR2	no users almost
[00:09]	schestowitz-TR2	like it never existed
[00:09]	schestowitz-TR2	I think Vista is only used by GE
[00:09]	schestowitz-TR2	I know, I saw it
[00:10]	DaemonFC	I had Windows Me, for a little while. Then I determined that it added more problems than it solved.
[00:10]	DaemonFC	I ended up grabbing the new defrag program out of it.
[00:10]	schestowitz-TR2	Vista 11: Windows METOO!
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[00:10]	schestowitz-TR2	\"we released it because Bill andf Lolita gates Foundation was collapsing"
[00:10]	schestowitz-TR2	remind me again the purpose of Windows ME?
[00:11]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 23.71 k/sec., IPFS upstream 47.71 average k/sec., average swarm size 276.47
[00:11]	DaemonFC	If I ever had a serious amount of money, nobody would know.
[00:11]	DaemonFC	I'd still be driving around in a used car.
[00:11]	DaemonFC	It'd be some low key Honda or something, maybe 10 years old.
[00:11]	DaemonFC	Trying to draw attention to yourself is usually a bad idea.
[00:11]	DaemonFC	Especially if you have a lot of money.
[00:12]	TR News	"Pretty much the last straw for me at Walmart will be if they copy Walgreens on this and I have to watch ads to know which door the frozen peas are in, along with their incessant price hikes." Justified using bogus pretexts, notable "Putin" and "Xi-19" https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/03/12/today-in-dystopian-nightmare-walgreens-replaces-glass-freezer-doors-with-advertisements/
[00:12]	TR Bot	 Today in dystopian nightmare, Walgreens replaces glass freezer doors with advertisements. BaronHK's Rants
[00:12]	schestowitz-TR2	*Notably
[00:12]	schestowitz-TR2	we should not blame our heads of state
[00:12]	schestowitz-TR2	for intolerable living expenses
[00:12]	DaemonFC	It's never them that did something to you.
[00:12]	DaemonFC	NEVER
[00:12]	schestowitz-TR2	blame the heads of state of Russia and China
[00:12]	schestowitz-TR2	better yet
[00:12]	schestowitz-TR2	when you are broke
[00:12]	schestowitz-TR2	join the army
[00:13]	schestowitz-TR2	it's xi and putin who ruined your life with thjeir weatshops
[00:13]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR2, Boris Johnson has fucked the UK up fine on his out, thank you very much.
[00:13]	DaemonFC	And the policing bill will be desert.
[00:13]	DaemonFC	He's still patting himself on the back for brexit, which cost jobs, drove down wages, and created tariffs on things the UK will never be able to produce anyway.
[00:13]	DaemonFC	What an idiot.
[00:14]	DaemonFC	The only bigger moron than Johnson is whoever is actually voting for this.
[00:14]	schestowitz-TR2	take back CTRL... ALT DELETE
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[00:14]	schestowitz-TR2	hi, techrights_guest|52
[00:14]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR2, The US was never dependent on Russia for much of anything regarding imports.
[00:15]	DaemonFC	I mean, it's going to suck for a while if you want crab meat and caviar, or actual Russian vodka for some reason.
[00:15]	schestowitz-TR2	Russia is across the sea from Alaska
[00:15]	schestowitz-TR2	was there no trade there?
[00:15]	DaemonFC	But we're talking low billions on those kinds of things.
[00:15]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR2, As you might guess, there's not much crab meat, caviar, and expensive vodka happening around here.
[00:16]	DaemonFC	So that part doesn't hurt us at all.
[00:16]	schestowitz-TR2	finland makes good vodka too
[00:16]	DaemonFC	We do eat shrimp and steak a lot.
[00:16]	DaemonFC	I get them on sale. It's not outrageous considering what the options to eat are.
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[00:17]	DaemonFC	<schestowitz-TR2> finland makes good vodka too
[00:17]	DaemonFC	Right, it's not like it's terribly difficult to make.
[00:17]	DaemonFC	You could make it from, damned near anything, honestly.
[00:17]	DaemonFC	Anything that can be fermented and distilled to be smooth enough.
[00:18]	DaemonFC	Potatoes, wheat (which will be a problem for a while, so probably not wheat), corn, rice....
[00:18]	DaemonFC	Some of this stuff, we've got plenty of.
[00:18]	DaemonFC	Indiana potatoes are no good.
[00:18]	DaemonFC	The soil's not right. Indiana does do potatoes, but they mostly get turned into chips.
[00:19]	DaemonFC	They're hard as a rock, but if you're slicing them up and frying them into chips anyway....
[00:19]	DaemonFC	But there's definitely more farmland in Indiana that could make potatoes, if you're fine with turning them into vodka.
[00:20]	DaemonFC	That's one possible strategy. Get some farmland on the cheap that nobody wants to grow food crops on.
[00:20]	perfector	shnapps is made from potatoes
[00:20]	DaemonFC	Make some really terrible potatoes.
[00:20]	DaemonFC	Turn it into vodka.
[00:21]	perfector	thats schnapps
[00:21]	DaemonFC	Well, the legal definition of vodka in the US is more flexible than it is in Russia.
[00:21]	DaemonFC	You could source it from potatoes and still meet the US legal definition.
[00:22]	DaemonFC	It doesn't much care what you start with.
[00:22]	perfector	they are pretty flexible when it comes to wiskey too
[00:22]	DaemonFC	So we actually have all sorts of "vodka" here and they tell you what they used to make it with.
[00:22]	DaemonFC	The one thing you absolutely cannot do is age vodka in wood barrels.
[00:22]	XRevan86	Something happened.
[00:22]	DaemonFC	But people do it anyway.
[00:22]	DaemonFC	Bartenders buy it up and age it themselves.
[00:23]	DaemonFC	Then sell it like that over the counter to people who know to ask for "brown vodka".
[00:23]	XRevan86	A rocket exploded in Iraq
[00:24]	perfector	rocket from were?
[00:24]	XRevan86	Preliminary information says Iran.
[00:25]	XRevan86	A missile rather.
[00:25]	perfector	a nuke?
[00:25]	XRevan86	https://eutimes.net/2022/03/breaking-iran-bombs-us-embassy-and-us-army-base-in-erbil-iraq-with-ballistic-missiles/
[00:25]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: eutimes.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://eutimes.net/2022/03/breaking-iran-bombs-us-embassy-and-us-army-base-in-erbil-iraq-with-ballistic-missiles/
[00:25]	TR Bot	 BREAKING: Iran Bombs US Consulate and US Army Base in Erbil, Iraq with Ballistic Missiles
[00:26]	MinceR	i thought the whole point of vodka was that it was as pure ethanol as they could manage :>
[00:27]	XRevan86	https://t.me/ToBeOr_Official/6638 apparently some Iranian Telegram channels have expressed support to Zetists.
[00:27]	TR Bot	 Telegram: Contact @ToBeOr_Official
[00:27]	XRevan86	"Z and V you are not alone ", that's not ominous at all.
[00:28]	TR News	"LaTeX has better quality type setting than lout, by a lot, and its great if all you wanna do is use templates that some other sucker had already done for you. If you wanna do any real layout work of your own, LaTeX is a brick wall." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/typesetting-engines
[00:30]	TR News	"I use public key cryptography email many times every day but only with people Ive exchanged keys with, obviously. Sometimes I wanna email someone and I see their key and just as Im about to import it, I realize that since they dont have my key, they wont be able to open my message." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/yay-autocrypt
[00:31]	TR News	GTL v0.7.0 gemini://gmi.bacardi55.io/gemlog/2022/03/13/gtl-v0.7.0/
[00:32]	perfector	just when people was starting to think about buying irans oil
[00:32]	TR News	"Better late than never. Finally, I created Git repositories for my Gemini and Gopher files." gemini://szczezuja.space/tinylog.gmi
[00:33]	schestowitz-TR2	XRevan86: v?
[00:33]	schestowitz-TR2	vlad?
[00:33]	XRevan86	s/Preliminary//
[00:33]	schestowitz-TR2	i know z
[00:34]	XRevan86	schestowitz: Both Z and Z are used as military designations in this, erm, special military operation.
[00:34]	XRevan86	* Z and V
[00:35]	perfector	Donald Trump Jr.
[00:35]	perfector	didnt waiste any time
[00:35]	XRevan86	https://t.me/nexta_live/21429 In response to murder of the revolutionary guard leader in Syria
[00:35]	TR Bot	 Telegram: Contact @nexta_live
[00:35]	XRevan86	I have to admit, I have no idea about what happened in Syria, who these people are.
[00:35]	schestowitz-TR2	I read about it hours ago
[00:36]	XRevan86	* leaders
[00:36]	schestowitz-TR2	XRevan86: so I don';t suppose iranians spport x for zionism
[00:36]	schestowitz-TR2	the putin z
[00:36]	perfector	still dont know whats up with syria
[00:36]	perfector	is it isil usa russians turkish ?!?
[00:37]	schestowitz-TR2	XRevan86: don't worry, maybe sony won't sell ps5 to iran
[00:37]	schestowitz-TR2	that'll "show em!"
[00:37]	XRevan86	schestowitz: Something tells me that they already don't.
[00:37]	schestowitz-TR2	yeah
[00:37]	schestowitz-TR2	sony=japan
[00:37]	perfector	so thats why
[00:37]	schestowitz-TR2	partly us 'colony' still
[00:38]	schestowitz-TR2	in exchange for protection from communists
[00:38]	DaemonFC	XRevan86 is busy hooking up his black market PS5 to ProtonVPN.
[00:38]	DaemonFC	He smuggled in a Mastercard to buy digital assets with.
[00:38]	XRevan86	DaemonFC: That's slander!
[00:38]	schestowitz-TR2	dentmarket
[00:39]	schestowitz-TR2	*denymarket
[00:39]	DaemonFC	I also have satellite photos proving you're bringing in McDonalds and labeling it "machine parts".
[00:39]	schestowitz-TR2	"biutch please!'
[00:39]	XRevan86	PS5 is not free software enough.
[00:39]	XRevan86	I'd never.
[00:39]	DaemonFC	I heard of at least one strike in Russia already.
[00:40]	schestowitz-TR2	XRevan86: putin should press ctrl+z
[00:40]	DaemonFC	Factory workers held a stoppage until their wages were adjusted to something closer to the official Ruble to USD rate.
[00:40]	DaemonFC	They still lost though.
[00:40]	DaemonFC	Their rate was only re-pegged to 91.5 Rubles to the dollar when the official rate is now like 140 or something.
[00:40]	XRevan86	schestowitz: Have ye heard of Little Zaches?
[00:41]	schestowitz-TR2	no
[00:41]	DaemonFC	At some point it makes no sense to keep working.
[00:41]	DaemonFC	If they're paying you as if none of this had ever happened you're making half as much per hour as you did last month.
[00:42]	XRevan86	schestowitz: It's a German novel.
[00:42]	XRevan86	schestowitz: The relevance is this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puppets_(TV_series)#Closure
[00:42]	TR Bot	 Puppets (TV series) - Wikipedia
[00:42]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR2, The pharmacy called about some of our prescriptions. I told them have them ready on Tuesday so I don't have to go out driving anywhere on Mandy's day off.
[00:42]	DaemonFC	I mean, it's getting pretty nasty.
[00:43]	DaemonFC	I've figured out how to cut our gasoline usage as much as possible now.
[00:43]	DaemonFC	And you still see people going into Walmart and leaving their truck idling in the parking lot.
[00:43]	DaemonFC	Which is a good way to get it stolen in these parts.
[00:43]	XRevan86	schestowitz: It's practically the first display of censorship in Putin's Russia.
[00:43]	DaemonFC	With gas at $4.60 a gallon and diesel near $5.
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[00:44]	XRevan86	The series was shot down for https://youtu.be/eZJx9bgwdv0
[00:44]	TR Bot	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=eZJx9bgwdv0
[00:44]	TR Bot	yewtu.be | Dolls - Story of Putin - Little Zaches WITH ENGLISH SUBTITLES - Invidious
[00:44]	DaemonFC	"To Avakian, it's simply an expected growing pain. Cooler Screens plans to educate customers about the digital displays and launch features like voice recognition, so shoppers can ask about prices or item locations."
[00:44]	DaemonFC	"This is the future of retail and shopping," Avakian said.
[00:44]	DaemonFC	LOL
[00:45]	DaemonFC	It's going to be a disaster.
[00:45]	DaemonFC	Can you imagine all of these ghetto Walgreens around here where winos come in and bust up the screen?
[00:45]	DaemonFC	Then you have no idea what's in the freezer.
[00:45]	DaemonFC	Or failing that, just malfunctioning screens.
[00:45]	DaemonFC	The software freezes up or the backlight fails or something.
[00:46]	DaemonFC	They already don't fix anything anymore.
[00:46]	DaemonFC	I had to call Walmart's Home Office twice about broken freezer and dairy department doors.
[00:46]	DaemonFC	They finally fixed them after like 5 months.
[00:46]	DaemonFC	Of just hanging open there in front of seafood and milk.
[00:47]	perfector	the usa is entering supper bubble territory
[00:48]	perfector	jeremy gratham
[00:49]	perfector	had more than US$118 billion in assets under management as of March 2015.Wikipedia
[00:50]	perfector	thats really alot of money
[00:50]	DaemonFC	https://www.reuters.com/news/picture/argentines-clash-with-police-as-lawmaker-idUSRTS676IL
[00:50]	TR Bot	clash with police as lawmakers debate IMF deal | Reuters.com
[00:50]	DaemonFC	Socialism in Argentina
[00:50]	TR News	Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162485
[00:50]	TR Bot	 Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
[00:50]	DaemonFC	Fires, police shooting at protesters.
[00:50]	DaemonFC	Glad to see that fixed everything and people have enough stuff now.
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[00:52]	perfector	Socialism in Argentina?
[00:52]	perfector	IMF is socialism now?
[00:53]	perfector	only if its nacional socialism
[00:53]	perfector	lots of nazis fled there
[00:53]	XRevan86	schestowitz: I remembered it because it's another connection that Putin has with the letter Z (:
[00:53]	perfector	?
[00:54]	XRevan86	perfector: "Little Zaches"
[00:54]	DaemonFC	The Socialist Party in Venezuela has a majority still, I do believe.
[00:54]	DaemonFC	They take IMF loans because they run out of things to tax to prop up welfare programs.
[00:54]	perfector	Venezuela!=Argentina
[00:55]	MinceR	venevuvuzela
[00:55]	DaemonFC	Err, sorry. I goofed. Both countries have Socialist majorities.
[00:55]	DaemonFC	Not going well in either of them.
[00:55]	DaemonFC	Venezuela does have some hope though.
[00:55]	MinceR	venezuela has state-enforced prices
[00:55]	MinceR	just like hungary
[00:55]	XRevan86	Looking like I'm the first to make that connection, neat.
[00:55]	DaemonFC	We might buy more oil from them.
[00:55]	MinceR	which is why you can't buy toilet paper in venezuela
[00:55]	DaemonFC	<MinceR> venezuela has state-enforced prices
[00:55]	DaemonFC	Edicts on maximum prices never work.
[00:56]	MinceR	the government has delusions about how much their currency is worth
[00:56]	MinceR	indeed
[00:56]	DaemonFC	Because then people buy it all up and nobody makes more because they can't recoup their costs.
[00:56]	DaemonFC	It's very very simple concept.
[00:56]	MinceR	very simple, but marxists can't wrap their heads around it
[00:57]	DaemonFC	The governments that put in price controls almost always do it because their currency is hyperinflating and they want to put out statistics that say it's not.
[00:57]	TR News	Links 12/3/2022: Lots of Microsoft Windows Ransomware in Ukraine and Arch Linux Turns 20 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/12/arch-linux-turns-20/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/12/arch-linux-turns-20/
[00:57]	TR Bot	 Links 12/3/2022: Lots of Microsoft Windows Ransomware in Ukraine and Arch Linux Turns 20 | Techrights
[00:57]	DaemonFC	Even if you can't buy any meat, tomatoes, or toilet paper.
[00:57]	perfector	https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/saudi-arabia-executes-81-men-terrorism-other-charges-spa-2022-03-12/
[00:57]	TR Bot	Arabia executes 81 men in one day for terrorism, other offences | Reuters
[00:57]	DaemonFC	The official price of a gallon of gas is $2, but there's no gas because other countries will pay more for the oil and $2 gas would be a loss.
[00:58]	MinceR	also venezuela has some of the biggest oil reserves, yet they had trouble supplying their people with fuel
[00:58]	DaemonFC	That sort of thing.
[00:58]	DaemonFC	And amazingly people say "The government should just make gas cost $2! There ought to be a law!"
[00:58]	DaemonFC	When the prices going up due to inflation are why there is gas to buy.
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[00:59]	schestowitz-TR2	DaemonFC: they keep the oil there for its true owner, USA Inc.
[00:59]	DaemonFC	You can either tolerate inflation or stop the inflation by getting rid of wasteful government programs that don't work very well and increasing taxes.
[00:59]	DaemonFC	Neither of which is popular.
[00:59]	DaemonFC	So you get inflation instead.
[00:59]	schestowitz-TR2	meanwhile Elon Slaveowner "pdedo guy" thinks he owns bolivia
[00:59]	perfector	unbolivable
[00:59]	schestowitz-TR2	it has his materials
[00:59]	DaemonFC	The worst James Bond movie ever was Quantum of Solace btw.
● Mar 13
[01:00]	schestowitz-TR2	"get our of my way"
[01:00]	DaemonFC	The plot is to privatize the water in Bolivia.
[01:00]	DaemonFC	I didn't think they could make one that was worse than Moonraker.
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[01:02]	TR News	Links 12/3/2022: Lots of Microsoft Windows Ransomware in Ukraine and Arch Linux Turns 20 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/12/arch-linux-turns-20/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/12/arch-linux-turns-20/
[01:02]	TR News	Videos and Games: Myths, Warnings, and Steam Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162486
[01:02]	TR Bot	 Videos and Games: Myths, Warnings, and Steam | Tux Machines
[01:02]	DaemonFC	I think that, they can't decide if they want something that's over the top or something that's more realistic, but boring and that's not why people go to see a movie.
[01:02]	TR News	Standards: UNIX, Streaming, and PDF Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162487
[01:02]	TR Bot	 Standards: UNIX, Streaming, and PDF | Tux Machines
[01:02]	TR News	Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162488
[01:02]	TR Bot	 today's leftovers | Tux Machines
[01:04]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR2, The banality of evil.
[01:04]	DaemonFC	Privatizing the water in Bolivia.
[01:04]		*x_ is now known as kingoffrance
[01:05]	DaemonFC	It's not about moon lasers and nuclear weapons.
[01:06]	DaemonFC	It's about politicians, tax codes, privatization deals, bailouts.
[01:06]	schestowitz-TR2	yeah
[01:06]	schestowitz-TR2	we gave up on the space thing
[01:06]	schestowitz-TR2	Bon 2023: the pursuit for the missing "Smart"phones
[01:07]	kingoffrance	*wakes up x hours later*   "cherry-picking is just censorship seen from a different perspective"  yeah, thats what bible ppl say when you point out its astrology.    that is not to disagree, just accusation gets thrown around too easily
[01:07]	schestowitz-TR2	*Bond
[01:07]	kingoffrance	^ 007 same thing again
[01:07]	schestowitz-TR2	dial 007
[01:07]	schestowitz-TR2	and disable the "smart" phone
[01:08]	DaemonFC	You may not want Smart, but Smart is what you'll get. Get Smart.
[01:08]	schestowitz-TR2	Bond producer: today's kids will "totally dig this"
[01:08]	kingoffrance	just, there has to be some notion of "truth" beyond "not cherry picking"
[01:08]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR2, You want to know where the frozen broccoli is.
[01:08]	DaemonFC	You need to "pay" for that information.
[01:08]	DaemonFC	It's somewhere on this aisle but you need to watch a frozen pizza ad for 2 minutes.
[01:08]	DaemonFC	And when you learn where everything is, they'll move it.
[01:08]	schestowitz-TR2	lol
[01:09]	kingoffrance	else it turns into another "identity" thing
[01:09]	kingoffrance	you're a cherry picker!
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[01:10]	kingoffrance	that sounds too close to reality
[01:10]	kingoffrance	thats exactly what will happen lol
[01:11]	kingoffrance	thats why the "carnegie unit" makes you sit through lectures basically lol
[01:11]	kingoffrance	its a known plan lol
[01:11]	kingoffrance	its already in some areas lol
[01:17]	kingoffrance	one could probably draw a parallel with intellectual property/copyright
[01:17]	perfector	https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/11/asia/india-pakistan-missile-intl-hnk/index.html
[01:17]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: cnn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/11/asia/india-pakistan-missile-intl-hnk/index.html
[01:17]	TR Bot	 India says it accidentally fired a missile into Pakistan - CNN
[01:17]	kingoffrance	that "artificial scarcity" is created, for things that could be copied cheaply, more efficiently, freely, for whatever reason
[01:18]	kingoffrance	its grocery store gatekeeping or walled garden lol
[01:18]	perfector	missiles don't seem to be anywhere near scarce
[01:25]	schestowitz-TR2	psydroid9: IBM's CEO comes from a military family in India
[01:25]	schestowitz-TR2	a high-ranking officials
[01:25]	schestowitz-TR2	maybe he can help them blame "Watson" and "HEY HI"
[01:25]	schestowitz-TR2	and "clown"
[01:30]	TR News	Keyboards have become fashion statements. So that keyboard companies can tell them to you at x10 the production cost. https://fossjon.wordpress.com/2022/03/12/my-first-real-mechanical-keyboard/
[01:30]	TR Bot	 My first real mechanical keyboard! Jon's FOSS Blog
[01:33]	MinceR	13 021714 < perfector> https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/11/asia/india-pakistan-missile-intl-hnk/index.html
[01:33]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: cnn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/11/asia/india-pakistan-missile-intl-hnk/index.html
[01:33]	MinceR	and no nuclear war yet?
[01:34]	DaemonFC	<schestowitz-TR2> lol
[01:34]	DaemonFC	We noticed you bought the cheese suffed crust pizza we told you about last time. And the ice cream.
[01:34]	DaemonFC	Do you need bigger underwear this week?
[01:34]	MinceR	:>
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[03:25]	DaemonFC	https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/jan/11/facebook-posts/no-high-tech-refrigerators-walgreens-arent-scannin/
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[03:25]	TR Bot	 No, high tech refrigerators at Walgreens arent scanning for the mark of the beast
[03:25]	DaemonFC	The Cooler Screens doors are "equipped with a camera, motion sensors, and eye tracking," according to a 2019 Fast Company article. "The doors can discern your gender, your general age range, what products youre looking at, how long youre standing there, and even what your emotional response is to a particular product."
[03:26]	DaemonFC	More reasons to keep wearing masks, schestowitz-TR2 
[03:32]	kingoffrance	change a few words, you are quoting education again :D
[03:34]	kingoffrance	chicken and egg perhaps
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[07:02]	schestowitz-TR2	[03:26] <DaemonFC> More reasons to keep wearing masks, schestowitz-TR2 
[07:03]	schestowitz-TR2	two masks AND a hoodie, like me...
[07:03]	schestowitz-TR2	even people who knew me for years cannot recognise me (I asked to check)
[07:04]	TR News	#Techrights Bulletin for Saturday, March 12, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
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[07:04]	TR News	#Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
[07:04]	TR Bot	 Techrights Full IPFS Index
[07:08]	TR News	"Some 45%-54% of the world's semiconductor grade neon, critical for the lasers used to make chips, comes from two Ukrainian companies" https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/strategy-and-management/ukraine-halts-half-of-worlds-neon-output-for-chips-clouding-outlook/90152882
[07:08]	TR Bot	 neon: Ukraine halts half of world's neon output for chips, clouding outlook, CIO News, ET CIO
[07:10]	TR News	"Analysts for the U.S. National Security Agency, French government cybersecurity organization ANSSI, and Ukrainian intelligence are assessing whether the remote sabotage of a satellite [Internet] provider's service was the work of Russian-state backed hackers" https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/digital-security/u-s-spy-agency-probes-sabotage-of-satellite-internet-during-russian-invasion-sources/90163260
[07:10]	TR Bot	 satellite internet: U.S. spy agency probes sabotage of satellite internet during Russian invasion: Sources, CIO News, ET CIO
[07:10]	TR News	"The Soviet-era Tu-141 reconnaissance drone crashed in the Croatian capital late Thursday, damaging around 40 parked vehicles, but no one was injured." https://today.rtl.lu/news/world/a/1879299.html
[07:10]	TR Bot	 RTL Today - Launched from Ukraine: Croatia PM urges closer NATO cooperation after military drone crash
[07:12]	TR News	"There is no evidence to support the claims, which President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine, the White House, the Pentagon and the State Department have all unequivocally denied." https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/11/us/politics/us-bioweapons-ukraine-misinformation.html
[07:12]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/11/us/politics/us-bioweapons-ukraine-misinformation.html
[07:12]	TR Bot	 Theory About U.S.-Funded Bioweapons Labs in Ukraine Is Unfounded - The New York Times
[07:12]	TR News	"Below we summarise some of the bills problems, which the Wikimedia Foundation and Wikimedia Chile have also raised with the Senate Committee studying the bill" https://medium.com/wikimedia-policy/a-chilean-bill-would-prohibit-community-based-content-moderation-2488d84022f4
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[07:12]	TR Bot	Chilean bill would prohibit community-based content moderation. It could outlaw the work of Wikipedia editors. | by Wikimedia Policy | Wikimedia Policy | Mar, 2022 | Medium
[07:13]	TR News	"Russias attempt to block independent news of its war in Ukraine has been met with a surge in digital circumvention tools" https://www.voanews.com/a/vpn-use-spikes-as-russians-seek-out-facts-on-ukraine-war/6482178.html
[07:13]	TR Bot	 VPN Use Spikes as Russians Seek Out Facts on Ukraine War
[07:14]	TR News	"The federal government responded by accusing European lawmakers of corruption, lies and hypocrisy and describing them as misinformed sheep" https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/european-lawmakers-amlo-sheep/
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[07:14]	TR Bot	 AMLO attacks after Europe calls for restraint in rhetoric against media
[07:16]	TR News	"we take a closer look at certain factors that may be contributing to the the resiliency of the Ukrainian Internet." https://labs.ripe.net/author/emileaben/the-resilience-of-the-internet-in-ukraine/
[07:16]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: ripe.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://labs.ripe.net/author/emileaben/the-resilience-of-the-internet-in-ukraine/
[07:16]	TR Bot	 The Resilience of the Internet in Ukraine | RIPE Labs
[07:17]	TR News	"Some people may not have known this, but the popular "NPC" Internet meme did not have a explicitly right-wing origin. The underlying sentiment is that many people these days, regardless of their political leanings, tend to simply repeat what everyone else in their group of choice says--especially when on the Internet." gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2022/202203/20220312-the-npc-meme.gmi
[07:18]	TR News	"Gemini bucks a lot of these online trends, to its immeasurable credit. Geminispace is small enough to prevent most dogpiles, and the vast majority of Gemini users communicate with each other in good faith, even when they disagree with each other." gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2022/202203/20220312-the-npc-meme.gmi
[07:22]	TR News	"MPA and ACE want Clownflare to hand over the personal details" https://torrentfreak.com/ace-mpa-target-dozens-of-streaming-pirates-some-with-a-subtle-new-trick-220312/
[07:22]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/ace-mpa-target-dozens-of-streaming-pirates-some-with-a-subtle-new-trick-220312/
[07:22]	TR Bot	& MPA Target Dozens of Streaming Pirates, Some With a Subtle New 'Trick' * TorrentFreak
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[07:24]	schestowitz	XRevan86: https://truthout.org/articles/the-russian-people-are-not-the-russian-government-activists-remind-us/
[07:24]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: truthout.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/the-russian-people-are-not-the-russian-government-activists-remind-us/
[07:24]	TR Bot	 The Russian People Are Not the Russian Government, Activists Remind Us
[07:25]	schestowitz	https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/11/opinion/london-oligarchs-sanctions-putin.html
[07:25]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/11/opinion/london-oligarchs-sanctions-putin.html
[07:25]	TR Bot	 Opinion | How Putin Weaponized Londons Greed - The New York Times
[07:25]	schestowitz	=
[07:25]	schestowitz	https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/11/world/europe/ukraine-fighters-refugees-trains.html
[07:25]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/11/world/europe/ukraine-fighters-refugees-trains.html
[07:25]	TR Bot	 Europes Trains Take Fighters to Ukraine, and Bring Back Refugees - The New York Times
[07:26]	TR News	iophk: gets Microsoft role in attacking ODF (and other open standards) backwards, furthermore, no one not even M$ itself uses ISO/IEC 29500 https://youtu.be/QzzIftKz600?t=50 https://castro.fm/episode/cBq9TF
[07:26]	TR Bot	 NO TITLE
[07:26]	TR Bot	 03/05/22: Seize the Means of Computation: the Big Tech Disassembly Manual with Cory Doctorow - Boston Computation Club
[07:30]	TR News	They try to cover the whole thing up https://abcnews.go.com/US/jeffrey-epstein-estate-nearing-settlement-us-virgin-islands/story?id=83398196 just like MIT http://techrights.org/2020/01/10/gates-sponsored-mit/
[07:30]	TR Bot	 Jeffrey Epstein estate nearing settlement with US Virgin Islands - ABC News
[07:30]	TR Bot	 Massachusetts Institute of Tall Tales (MIT) Covers Up Bill Gates Bribery of MIT Through a High-Profile Pedophile, Citing No Evidence Other Than Representatives of Gates Himself | Techrights
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[07:34]	TR News	On the Internet, facts come to die https://factcheck.afp.com/list/all/all/39405/all/2526
[07:34]	TR Bot	 Fact Check
[07:35]	TR News	Gulag GulagTube has moved beyond removing videos over copyright pretexts https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/youtube-donald-trump-nelk-boys-full-send-podcast-interview-1320041/
[07:35]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: rollingstone.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/youtube-donald-trump-nelk-boys-full-send-podcast-interview-1320041/
[07:35]	TR Bot	 Nelk Boys Trump Interview Removed by YouTube for Misinformation - Rolling Stone
[07:43]	TR News	"At the Corporation, we use `syslog()` to log stuff. I know it's not popular among the hipster crowd, but honestly, I don't find the modern replacements to be all that great, nor as ubiquitous, as `syslog()`." gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/03/08.1
[07:45]	TR News	189: Linux 5.17, Mesa 22.0, Budgie Desktop, Wine, Dirty Pipe Vulnerability and more Linux news - TuxDigital https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/this-week-in-linux/twil-189/
[07:45]	TR Bot	Linux 5.17, Mesa 22.0, Budgie Desktop, Wine, Dirty Pipe Vulnerability and more Linux news - TuxDigital
[07:53]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162489
[07:53]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
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[08:22]	TR News	Poland Reducing Dependence on Back-Doored Windows | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/13/poland-and-gnu-linux/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/13/poland-and-gnu-linux/
[08:22]	TR Bot	 Poland Reducing Dependence on Back-Doored Windows | Techrights
[08:23]	TR News	 #IRC Proceedings: Saturday, March 12, 2022 Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/13/irc-log-120322/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/13/irc-log-120322/
[08:23]	TR Bot	 IRC Proceedings: Saturday, March 12, 2022 | Techrights
[08:24]	bnchs	poland reducing dependence on windows
[08:24]	bnchs	thats good
[08:24]	bnchs	i wish other countries did that
[08:24]	schestowitz-TR2	they will
[08:24]	schestowitz-TR2	eventually
[08:24]	schestowitz-TR2	but the media won't help uis
[08:24]	schestowitz-TR2	it's covering up for MicrosoftNSA
[08:26]	CParadoxum_	schestowitz-TR2: Thank you, I just read that you stopped using social control media and decided to follow, I hope I manage not to relapse, but so far feeling quite a lot better
[08:26]	CParadoxum_	Got sick of all the propaganda
[08:26]	schestowitz-TR2	yeah
[08:26]	schestowitz-TR2	it's bad for the mind
[08:26]	schestowitz-TR2	I'm a lot happier without it
[08:27]	CParadoxum_	I thought "old school" forums were still at least better
[08:27]	schestowitz-TR2	or gemini
[08:27]	CParadoxum_	But even there, the shills make it insufferable
[08:28]	schestowitz	gemini://nytpu.com/feed.gmi
[08:28]	CParadoxum_	On the gemini front I'm slowly building my capsule
[08:28]	CParadoxum_	But so far I'm trying to generally lower my level of information overload
[08:28]	CParadoxum_	It's very real
[08:29]	schestowitz-TR2	not much info is of actual use
[08:29]	schestowitz-TR2	even if it is true
[08:29]	schestowitz-TR2	if you separate the wheat from the chaff
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[08:29]	matey	leah is going to prove more right than they could have bargained for
[08:30]	matey	theyre one of the few people that understand the problem, at least
[08:30]	matey	or at least the symptoms
[08:31]	CParadoxum_	matey: leah as in leah rowe?
[08:31]	CParadoxum_	schestowitz-TR2: true, most info is just chaff
[08:31]	matey	the only leah i know here
[08:32]	matey	but yes
[08:32]	bnchs	should search engines censor info?
[08:32]	CParadoxum_	Oh, didn't know shw was in this channel
[08:32]	CParadoxum_	bnchs: no
[08:32]	CParadoxum_	brb
[08:36]	kingoffrance	"not much info is of actual use even if it is true"  yes, this needs said more.         information without context as well, is essentially worthless
[08:36]	matey	hear, hear
[08:36]	kingoffrance	*worthless unless context can be found
[08:36]	matey	unfortunately most context is also bunk
[08:36]	kingoffrance	:)
[08:37]	TR News	In Sweden, on desktops/laptops, only 60% use Windows, according to Statcounter: https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/sweden/#monthly-202111-202203 if you also count mobile, Linux is about the same as Windows
[08:37]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: statcounter.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/sweden/#monthly-202111-202203
[08:37]	TR Bot	 Desktop Operating System Market Share Sweden | Statcounter Global Stats
[08:37]	matey	people take facts, ascribe them to nonsense, voila, an argument
[08:37]	matey	the nonsense is the usual context, sadly
[08:38]	matey	but context is necessary and vital, it only has to be the right context (so many people like to keep the two separate)
[08:38]	matey	most facts have foster parents
[08:38]	kingoffrance	yeah :)
[08:38]	CParadoxum_	I remember a time not so long ago where this was more frowned upon
[08:39]	CParadoxum_	Not to say that it didn't happen (Iraqi WMDs anyone?)
[08:39]	kingoffrance	they get bounced around a few times and then come out a little traumatized lol
[08:39]	CParadoxum_	But it happened less
[08:39]	schestowitz	https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/all/norway/#monthly-202111-202203
[08:39]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: statcounter.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/all/norway/#monthly-202111-202203
[08:39]	TR Bot	 Operating System Market Share Norway | Statcounter Global Stats
[08:40]	matey	CParadoxum_ its worth noting that when it was frowned upon, the already disgusting monopoly of 6 media corporations had not yet merged to 5
[08:41]	matey	and the reason it had not is it was illegal for them to do so
[08:41]	TR News	Web traffic from China is about 53% Android or 55% "Linux" https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/all/china/#monthly-202111-202203
[08:41]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: statcounter.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/all/china/#monthly-202111-202203
[08:41]	TR Bot	 Operating System Market Share China | Statcounter Global Stats
[08:41]	matey	but during the same administration youre complaining about, some people wanted to decrease the number from 6 to 4-- and now we have 5
[08:41]	CParadoxum_	True
[08:42]	matey	im sure each time the monopoly increases, the quality of reporting decreases
[08:42]	CParadoxum_	And there was also a general sentiment of skepticism still
[08:42]	CParadoxum_	matey: hell yeah, tell me about it
[08:42]		*CParadoxum_ lives in the middle east...
[08:42]	matey	should i ask which part?
[08:43]	CParadoxum_	You could look it up by IP anyway
[08:43]	CParadoxum_	israel
[08:43]	matey	theres a country
[08:43]		*CParadoxum_ is a minority within a minority though
[08:44]	matey	youre a female arabic christian in israel?
[08:44]	CParadoxum_	almost right
[08:44]	matey	i met an arabic christian once, she told me about everything going on in palestine 17 years ago
[08:45]	matey	it doesnt sound like things have improved
[08:45]	CParadoxum_	Only gotten worse
[08:45]	CParadoxum_	A year ago the whole place was on brink of pogroms and civil war
[08:46]	CParadoxum_	Needless to say, I'm getting my degree and GTFOing to Europe or Canada
[08:46]	matey	good luck
[08:47]	CParadoxum_	Thanks
[08:49]	matey	when people see how bad things are
[08:49]	matey	they dont find hope from people who say everything is fine, they are looking for other people who know how bad it is
[08:49]	CParadoxum_	True I guess
[08:49]	matey	theyre looking for people to work on problems as they exist, not watered down and downplayed versions of those problems (which wont result in adequate solutions)
[08:50]	CParadoxum_	For what it's worth, I'm trying to climb out on the ladder of education
[08:50]	CParadoxum_	Because I honestly think no matter what, the middle east is going to hell in a handbasket long-term
[08:50]	matey	if you give someone paracetemol when they need a liver transplant...
[08:50]	matey	the whole world is going to hell, but that doesnt make me want to live in israel or palestine. or iran.
[08:51]	matey	but this is why credit has to be given to leah-- not many are willing to be pessimistic about the state of things
[08:51]	matey	its the first step forward
[08:51]	matey	everyone else is busy trying to put a happy face on a disaster
[08:52]	matey	of course im taking some liberties with blanket statements. im rounding the numbers a bit.
[08:53]	matey	mincer holds no hope for the human race at all, next to him im an optimist
[08:53]	kingoffrance	http://www.marlodge.net/John-Higginss-silent-alphabet/
[08:53]	TR Bot	 John Higgins's silent alphabet
[08:54]	CParadoxum_	matey: I think it is a general problem with the West nowadays
[08:54]	matey	what is?
[08:54]	CParadoxum_	We forgot that emotions exist for a reason
[08:54]	CParadoxum_	We try to medicate sadness away 
[08:55]	CParadoxum_	Mainly ecause corporations want you to be a good consumer
[08:55]	CParadoxum_	This just leads to flat-out denial of reality
[08:55]	matey	oh youre right on the money-- corporations want everyone to think theyre satisfied customers
[08:56]	matey	if youre not a satisfied customer they want you to think it must be because youre crazy
[08:56]	matey	its not the product-- its your head
[08:57]	matey	we used to try to fit products to the consumer-- thats oldschool
[08:57]	matey	ever since microsoft took over schools in the 90s, weve tried to fit the consumer to the product
[08:57]	CParadoxum_	That's just modus operandi for most corporations nowadays
[08:57]	matey	not a fit? maybe whack them a few times with a mallot, you just have to force these things sometimes
[08:57]		*CParadoxum_ is studying Entrepreneurship, seeing this first-hand
[08:58]	TR News	Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162490
[08:58]	TR Bot	 Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
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[08:58]	matey	kingoffrance (90% certain i have the right person) said the other day
[08:59]	matey	people have an impression that there are some kind of clean corporations that arent tied to the state
[08:59]	kingoffrance	i talk to much, but its lost to history
[08:59]	matey	i liked it though
[08:59]	kingoffrance	i say the "cathedral and bazaar" cathedral died with "noone above the law"   bazaar/markets disappeared with corporations
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[09:00]	matey	how did they disappear with corporations?
[09:00]	CParadoxum_	But specifically almost all of the tech giants are a creation of the deepstate/CIA
[09:00]	kingoffrance	i mean, its lost because they are so common, approved so easily, old days it was known you lobbied the "gov" for special privileges
[09:00]	kingoffrance	i just mean its no longer one guy behind a stand 
[09:00]	CParadoxum_	That's how the US govt works
[09:00]	kingoffrance	selling fruit or whatever
[09:00]	matey	today we have a people of the government, for the government, by the government
[09:00]	kingoffrance	disappear may be strong, but "market" has new meanings now
[09:03]	matey	in most instances, 99% correct is a lot more correct than 85% wrong
[09:04]	matey	whats really missing from the world isnt that extra percent, its that so many things arent even headed in that direction
[09:06]	kingoffrance	https://web.archive.org/web/20151123012202/https://www.remcmaster.com/economics/Plum_Right_Receipt_AppendixB.pdf  you can call that right-wing anti-fed propaganda, but it cracked me up lol      Right? Survival of the fittest, plus the market is always right. Right? Right!
[09:06]	kingoffrance	plums -> receipts for plums -> futures on receipts on ...   it just gets more and more abstract lol
[09:07]	matey	memories of plums
[09:08]	CParadoxum_	Survival of the fittest until you threaten crashing the whole economy with no survivors and then you get bailed out by the government and steal everyone's money yet again
[09:08]	CParadoxum_	It's all cartels and mafiosos, just seemingly more formal and eloquent
[09:08]	matey	anticapitalism is going to get a lot more popular 
[09:12]	kingoffrance	i would compare it to cloud
[09:12]	matey	howso
[09:12]	kingoffrance	just getting more and more abstract
[09:12]	matey	oh yeah
[09:12]	kingoffrance	it starts as a market, it ends up with hot air evaporating into the sky
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[09:14]	matey	kingofrance: because of marketing
[09:15]	kingoffrance	lol yes
[09:15]	CParadoxum_	But at the same time you have to wisen up to their tactics
[09:15]	CParadoxum_	And carve a safe niche out for yourself
[09:15]	CParadoxum_	E.g.: buying real-estate instead of leaving money to depreciate in the bank
[09:15]	CParadoxum_	Not being one of them
[09:15]	CParadoxum_	But still taking care of oneself
[09:19]	matey	E.g.: buying real-estate instead of leaving money to depreciate in the bank <- fixing inflation would be an even loftier goal
[09:21]	matey	did anybody else notice the chat in here about moglen and stallman?
[09:21]	matey	i think its extraordinary
[09:21]	matey	unless im mistaken, those are the two authors of the gpl
[09:21]	matey	one author of the gpl was banned for libreplanet for threatening someones career
[09:22]	CParadoxum_	matey: I aggree, t fixing the problem is the real solution, but you have to be wise and fend off for yourself until that happens
[09:22]	matey	then the other author was ousted from the fsf for reversing the ban of the other gpl author
[09:23]	matey	i mean thats not the whole story-- its my take on something from one person. i know more of the story than that, im choosing to focus on this aspect of it
[09:24]	matey	libreplanet is more powerful than the board of directors
[09:24]	matey	that wouldnt bother me, if they were better suited to ensure a good future for free software
[09:24]	kingoffrance	yeah, i just dont know enough who he is, certainly heard the name before.      https://news.slashdot.org/story/99/05/10/1449257/eben-moglen-essay-anarchism-triumphant   "anarchism triumphant" LOL
[09:24]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: slashdot.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://news.slashdot.org/story/99/05/10/1449257/eben-moglen-essay-anarchism-triumphant
[09:24]	TR Bot	 Eben Moglen Essay "Anarchism Triumphant" - Slashdot
[09:25]	kingoffrance	1999  "He is probably the most important legal mind supportive of the open source community.""
[09:25]	matey	unless im mistaken, he helped stallman write the gpl
[09:25]	matey	i know he worked on gpl3.
[09:26]	kingoffrance	i lol because "democracy triumphant" there were quite a few people  "replying" to eachother with such book titles over the course of a century or more lol
[09:26]	kingoffrance	thats a long tradition lol
[09:26]	kingoffrance	still going lol
[09:27]	matey	democracy isnt so bad if you can get it to stop providing a convenient cover story for money running peoples lives
[09:28]	matey	in that regard its completely useless, but so is a a car if theres no place to buy fuel
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[10:20]	DaemonFC	https://www.tmz.com/2022/03/12/jussie-smollett-race-black-jail-sentence-hoax/
[10:20]	TR Bot	 Jussie Smollett Believes the Judge Sentenced Him to Jail Because He's Black
[10:20]	DaemonFC	Hires people to stage a fake hate crime to "help career".
[10:21]	DaemonFC	Lies to the police. Costs city $1.5 million in fake hate crime investigation.
[10:21]	DaemonFC	"They sent me to jail because I'm black!"
[10:23]	DaemonFC	He's not stupid. He knows that the reason they pass these laws is to gaslight people.
[10:23]	DaemonFC	He was just "using the system".
[10:24]	DaemonFC	Congress passed an "anti-lynching" bill. Like, they do it spontaneously decades after the lynching problem went away.
[10:24]	DaemonFC	To stir up shit.
[10:25]	DaemonFC	The time to pass an anti-lynching bill was 60 years ago when the KKK actually existed and was doing it multiple times a month.
[10:26]	DaemonFC	We're a very long way out from that. There hasn't been a KKK lynching in decades, so Congress does it now to set race relations back. They always have to set it back because it gives people something to fight about when that wouldn't happen organically.
[10:26]	DaemonFC	It's a distraction.
[10:28]	DaemonFC	All these places in America where hate crimes actually do happen a lot are places where mjg59_ says people "get it".
[10:28]	DaemonFC	Like San Francisco, with all of the unprovoked attacks on Asian Americans.
[10:29]	DaemonFC	You know what happens when you go to Indiana, in counties where 7 out of 10 people voted for Trump, and you're Asian?
[10:29]	DaemonFC	People say, "Hey buddy! Why don't you come sit down and have a beer? How the hell are ya?".
[10:30]	DaemonFC	And in San Francisco and New York City they're mugging you and throwing you in front of trains.
[10:31]	DaemonFC	https://nypost.com/2022/03/06/straphanger-slashed-in-the-face-with-razor-blade-nyc-subway-cops-say/
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[10:31]	TR Bot	 Man slashed in the face with razor blade on NYC subway
[10:31]	DaemonFC	https://nypost.com/2022/01/15/woman-pushed-to-her-death-at-times-square-subway-station/
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[10:31]	TR Bot	 Woman pushed to her death at Times Square subway station
[10:31]	DaemonFC	https://nypost.com/2021/03/31/man-hurls-anti-asian-slurs-spits-on-woman-on-nyc-subway/
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[10:31]	TR Bot	 Man hurls anti-Asian slurs, spits on woman on NYC subway
[10:31]	DaemonFC	https://nypost.com/2021/02/16/two-asian-women-attacked-on-nyc-subways-cops-say/
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[10:31]	TR Bot	 Two Asian women attacked on NYC subways, cops say
[10:32]	DaemonFC	https://nypost.com/2021/05/24/asian-man-pushed-onto-subway-tracks-at-queensbridge-station/
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[10:32]	TR Bot	 Asian man pushed onto subway tracks at Queensbridge station
[10:33]	DaemonFC	Especially the second one, fuck New York and fuck Democrat cities.
[10:34]	DaemonFC	This is why I say even if the UBI program became something for EVERYONE permanently and all you had to do was live in Chicago and they'd give both of us $500 a month, cash.
[10:34]	DaemonFC	We still wouldn't move there.
[10:34]	DaemonFC	The crime, stress, and bad landlords aren't worth it.
[10:35]	DaemonFC	All your costs go up 50% just for living around piles of heroin needles, people who don't pick up after their dog, and the red line bums who stab you with a screwdriver and then run off and the police never find them.
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[10:35]	DaemonFC	So, there's another thing Stallman is wrong about.
[10:36]	DaemonFC	We have a huge country and people shouldn't be forced to live like this.
[10:36]	DaemonFC	6 million in a county while most of the land area is empty.
[10:36]	DaemonFC	Cities should be smaller and they should bring back the inter-urban for people to get around.
[10:36]	DaemonFC	What causes poverty is not exactly just "more people in the world".
[10:37]	DaemonFC	It's when you have compressed living spaces and people have to bid each inch of it up for no reason when most of the country is empty.
[10:37]	DaemonFC	Cities are a real estate scam, and nothing more.
[10:38]	DaemonFC	You can get a very nice house on 2 acreas of land for about $60,000 in Indiana today.
[10:38]	DaemonFC	Or you can get a house that's not as nice for $500,000 on 1/8th of an acre in Illinois, like MARISOL.
[10:38]	DaemonFC	Or you can do like Mr. Goolag.
[10:39]	DaemonFC	Get yourself a $760,000 cracker box in San Francisco. Where people "get it".
[10:39]	DaemonFC	No land at all.
[10:40]	DaemonFC	I don't get how MARISOL wants to live here, or anyone who can take their skills and leave.
[10:40]	DaemonFC	They have nurses and physical therapists in Indiana.
[10:40]	DaemonFC	Get yourself a house in Indiana, pay cash. Pay $500 annual property tax instead of $9,000.
[10:41]	DaemonFC	They take your property taxes in Illinois, which are part of the reason black people can't become homeowners here.
[10:41]	DaemonFC	And give it to the schools to teach them that white people are why they can't afford a house.
[10:41]	DaemonFC	To be fair, the teacher may be white.
[10:42]	DaemonFC	We live in a very perverse society where basic "government services" including education and healthcare are what holds people back and keeps them from achieving any of their dreams.
[10:43]	DaemonFC	The horrible part is that a lot of these jobs, right, you can do them with about a 5th grade intelligence, because that's what most schoold leave a high school graduate with after they pass the 12th grade.
[10:44]	DaemonFC	What you called a K-12 education when I was in school is no a 5th grade education, when they finish.
[10:44]	DaemonFC	Because the government is dead set on halving the IQ of graduating high school seniors every generation or so.
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[10:52]	DaemonFC	https://politicalwire.com/2022/03/12/russia-is-leveling-kharkiv/
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[10:52]	TR Bot	 Russia Is Leveling Kharkiv
[10:52]	DaemonFC	"Kharkiv has been pulverized with particular cruelty, even though almost all of its citizens are Russian-speakers, many of whom felt affinity with Russia in the past.
[10:57]	DaemonFC	https://politicalwire.com/2022/03/12/how-russia-is-recruiting-mercenaries/
[10:57]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: politicalwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://politicalwire.com/2022/03/12/how-russia-is-recruiting-mercenaries/
[10:57]	TR Bot	 Russia Is Recruiting Mercenaries
[10:57]	DaemonFC	Russia appeals to "criminals and people with debt" to become mercenaries.
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[11:19]	DaemonFC	https://nypost.com/2022/03/12/even-ev-elon-musk-mocks-bidens-green-hucksters/
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[11:19]	TR Bot	 Even EV Elon Musk mocks Bidens green hucksters
[11:19]	DaemonFC	"She said the American people should sit back and imagine a future where every car, bus and truck is powered by electricity. It can happen sooner than you think, our VP assured us, where the freight trucks that deliver bread and milk to our grocery store shelves and the buses that take children to school and parents to work . . . produce zero emissions. Well, you all imagined it. 
[11:19]	DaemonFC	She got one thing right: Its all imaginary was my first thought. If EVs were so user-friendly, wouldnt we all be buying them already?"
[11:21]	DaemonFC	He missed the part about there being nowhere to plug them in at.
[11:21]	DaemonFC	Most places have no supercharging infrastructure, and the majority of people now rent because owning a house is out of the question.
[11:22]	DaemonFC	In my neck of the woods, a basic one bedroom in the ghetto is barely doable with two incomes.
[11:23]	DaemonFC	If you went to buy a house, no bank would approve the mortgage because it would be over half your monthly income, so only people who are "upper middle class" can get a mortgage, and even most of them end up regretting it at some point.
[11:23]	DaemonFC	Because they find out how hard it can be to sell the thing if you need to move later, and you lost more money on interest, insurance, and property taxes than you gain in equity.
[11:24]	DaemonFC	The banks go "Oh don't even worry about the property taxes, we'll pay them and roll it into the mortgage.".
[11:24]	DaemonFC	So you pay interest on the property taxes too.
[11:25]	DaemonFC	The mortgage company splits up expected property taxes at the start of the year, and then at the end if they still need more, they'll send you another bill to square up.
[11:25]	DaemonFC	And it's likely that happens because when is the last property tax cut or rebate in Illinois? It literally never happens here.
[11:56]	CParadoxum_	This whole "green" BS is just that: BS
[11:56]	CParadoxum_	It's all an excuse to keep the fossil fuel industry functioning
[11:57]	CParadoxum_	Except Hydroelectric and Geothermal (which are heavily reliant on uncommon geology), all renewables require heavy fossil-fuel-backed buffering (usually in the form of natural gas)
[11:57]	CParadoxum_	The real long term solution is nuclear
[11:59]	CParadoxum_	But so far, most of the world's powers are either petrostates or have their economies rely heavily on fossi fuels (E.g.: the petrodollar) - as such we'll keep getting all this "green" BS for the forseeable future.
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[12:19]	TR News	"IMHO, Gemini is surprisingly popular. How did it come?" gemini://envs.net/~pen/gemini/popular.gmi
[12:21]	TR News	"I was listening to the Alpha Rhythm podcast and learned that there is a DnB album called "Together with Ukraine" on Bandcamp and all revenue is donated to the Ukrainian Red Cross, so I picked it up. 136 tracks and the minimum price is set at 12 GBP." gopher://sdfeu.org:70/0/users/glaciurso/phlog/2022-03-13__DnB.md
[12:22]	immibis	CParadoxum_: Nuclear is not long-term, because it is a non-renewable source of power.
[12:23]	CParadoxum_	Fusion is the long term solution
[12:24]	CParadoxum_	But for now, even inefficient LWRs using Uranium without reprocessing would be enough for over 300 years
[12:25]	CParadoxum_	And that isn't taking into account any new tech/regulations to reprocess, breeder reactors, mining uranium from seawater (there's two or there orders of magnitude of proven reserves) or thorium reactors
[12:25]	DaemonFC	I'm going through my spices.
[12:25]	DaemonFC	I'm running out of thyme, but if anyone has some sage advice, I'd be glad to hear it.
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[12:28]	activelow	"renewable" is a propaganda scam, energy sector doesn't qualify with "renewable", instead it is _costs_, for mining/sourcing energy, storage, transport
[12:29]	activelow	solar panels and batteries (minerals) or wind turbines (tons of steel for a turbine) are "fossil" alike as any other
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[12:30]	activelow	of cause, wind turbines and solar panels are an important component in the energy sector, as a niche product, to provide remote areas with energy (such as farmers, or space satellites)
[12:30]	activelow	otherwise, "renewables" have not benefit concerning "ecology", and it's expensive
[12:31]	activelow	*no
[12:32]	activelow	i consider social and political instabilities the biggest threat to long-term reliable nuclear operation
[12:32]	activelow	including power-to-gas energy distribution grids
[12:33]	DaemonFC	Subtotal(17 items)
[12:33]	DaemonFC	$69.69
[12:33]	DaemonFC	Noice
[12:35]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, I noticed something weird about their online price.
[12:36]	DaemonFC	It's actually cheaper to order somethings online. If you go into the store, 60 eggs are $7.02 and if you do it online, it's $6.69.
[12:36]	bnchs	will other OSes be locked out in the future
[12:36]	DaemonFC	It seems they're charging a "tax" on doing shopping yourself now.
[12:36]	bnchs	and only windows will run in future devices
[12:37]	activelow	bnchs: any typical "OS" is merely a supervised guest on top of "firmware" such as UEFI/BIOS etc.
[12:37]	activelow	the real OS, with direct access to hardware, is the UEFI/BIOS
[12:37]	bnchs	yes
[12:38]	bnchs	will the low-level devkits for the systems only be available for microsoft or other approved companies
[12:38]	activelow	already are
[12:38]	bnchs	yes because we have proprietary BIOSes
[12:39]	activelow	and if hardware designs are included, everything is completely locked
[12:39]	bnchs	with non-standard windows garbage
[12:39]	TR News	Linuxfx 11.1.1108 is out http://www.linuxfx.org/
[12:39]	TR Bot	 Linuxfx Operating System
[12:39]	bnchs	like windows 10 custom logo
[12:39]	bnchs	stored in the BIOS
[12:39]	bnchs	and windows 10 license key
[12:40]	TR News	GNOME Shell & Mutter 42.0 coming https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/commit/44b4b02c3f772a50e6f8b8fd2dca6d9dc3a98725
[12:40]	TR Bot	 Bump version to 42.0 (44b4b02c) Commits GNOME / gnome-shell GitLab
[12:41]	bnchs	also example of rogue CAs
[12:41]	bnchs	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazakhstan_man-in-the-middle_attack
[12:41]	TR Bot	 Kazakhstan man-in-the-middle attack - Wikipedia
[12:42]	activelow	btw. the wikipedia article about the 1984 semiconductor protection is somewhat biased and fraudulent too, considering eastern/soviet reverse-engineering plagiarism of supposedly "superior" western designs
[12:42]	bnchs	the kazakhstan ISPs forced users to install their CAs
[12:42]	activelow	which may or may not be true, however, the most relevant reason reverse-engineering was necessary was to remain interoperable/compatible with western part
[12:42]	bnchs	which meant the browsers would trust any malicious certs as long as it was signed by the CA
[12:42]	activelow	that's why, former scientists argued, it had been less effort to re-design and implement independent from the west, in east-germany
[12:43]	bnchs	should we go back to self-signing certs
[12:43]	bnchs	with the users always checking the fingerprint of the cert
[12:43]	activelow	bnchs: hey hi?
[12:44]	bnchs	activelow, how
[12:44]	activelow	of cause, the CA infrastructure is rigged, by design
[12:44]	psydroid9	I think they only wanted to be compatible so all the software would run unchanged
[12:44]	bnchs	yes
[12:44]	DaemonFC	I was talking to mom about those damned Russians and wheat prices.
[12:44]	bnchs	if the gov can make a CA and fake certs to intercept traffic
[12:45]	bnchs	then so can the CAs themselves
[12:45]	bnchs	like cloudflare
[12:45]	DaemonFC	Mostly about what could be done to substitute for wheat if it gets pricier.
[12:45]	DaemonFC	She mentioned that some of those cauliflower crust pizzas are getting better than they used to be.
[12:45]	TR News	Michael Larabel celebrates sheer bloat from his sponsor https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMDGPU-Closing-4-Million http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/phoronix-went-too-far/
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[12:45]	TR Bot	Linux Kernel Graphics Driver Closing In On 4 Million Lines - Phoronix
[12:45]	TR Bot	 When Blogs Become Marketing and Benchmarks Become Product Promotions | Techrights
[12:46]	bnchs	i've seen some cases where when i visited a website "protected" by clownflare, there's some clownflare tracker injected into the page
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[12:46]	bnchs	but when you refresh, the tracker disappears
[12:46]	TR News	LibreWolf: A Trusted Open-source Firefox Fork for Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162491
[12:46]	TR Bot	 LibreWolf: A Trusted Open-source Firefox Fork for Linux | Tux Machines
[12:46]	bnchs	so clownflare is obviously already doing MITM
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[12:54]	schestowitz	psydroid9: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-P-State-Tracer
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[12:54]	TR Bot	P-State Tracer Tool To Be Included With Linux 5.18 - Phoronix
[12:54]	schestowitz	[12:45] <techrights-news> Michael Larabel celebrates sheer bloat from his sponsor https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMDGPU-Closing-4-Million http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/phoronix-went-too-far/\
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[12:54]	TR Bot	( status 404 @ http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/phoronix-went-too-far/\ )
[12:54]	schestowitz	4,000,000
[12:55]	schestowitz	activelow: better get to work
[12:55]	schestowitz	study the source code --rms
[12:55]	schestowitz	just for this amd thing
[12:56]	bnchs	schestowitz, proprietary tools with my GPU
[12:56]	bnchs	i like placing responability on proprietary GPU clocking program
[12:57]	bnchs	that may or may not cause a house fire due to bad programming
[12:57]	schestowitz-TR2	maybe the fuse will porevent that
[12:58]	bnchs	$ nv-clock -W 100
[12:58]	DaemonFC	I think that there's going to have to be some adaptations to what we eat because of Russia using food as a weapon.
[12:58]	bnchs	Successfully set GPU clock from 400.0W to 10004.00W
[12:58]	DaemonFC	It's not just energy.
[12:58]	DaemonFC	The news is all over the fossil fuels thing, but that's hardly the extent of the damage.
[12:59]	DaemonFC	Putin has managed to do a lot of damage to the world's standard of living with this, not just Russia's. I don't see the long term gain here.
[12:59]	bnchs	and it's accurate because nvidia GTX gpus have been catching fire
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[13:00]	DaemonFC	<bnchs> and it's accurate because nvidia GTX gpus have been catching fire
[13:00]	DaemonFC	Speaking of Nvidia, those leaks are really funny.
[13:00]	bnchs	yes
[13:00]	DaemonFC	They're over there getting high on Microsoft's supply and it really bit them in the ass this time.
[13:01]	bnchs	i haven't look at the leak and maybe i'm never gonna
[13:01]	DaemonFC	There's torrents with it now.
[13:01]	bnchs	because i don't want my brain to be tainted with the knowledge with the leak
[13:01]	DaemonFC	Nvidia doesn't like to talk about it. Why would they? It details years worth of their product details.
[13:01]	bnchs	because i wanna contribute to nouveau sometime
[13:01]	DaemonFC	Architectures don't change wildly overnight.
[13:02]	DaemonFC	As far as those Russian CPUs, I noticed they're using VLIW, which is interesting. One of the first CPU companies pushing that for desktop use was Transmeta, but you couldn't take advantage of it.
[13:03]	bnchs	DaemonFC, tell me how they're getting high on microsoft's supply
[13:03]	DaemonFC	The processor was impossible to use in native mode without special internal firmwares.
[13:03]	psydroid2	schestowitz, I consider it a junk codebase and even refuse to look at it
[13:03]	DaemonFC	And the Code Morphing Software made it a really slow x86 processor. About the only thing they ever did was lose money. They had Torvalds on the payroll as an advertisement to get more VC.
[13:04]	psydroid2	I've been considering many of the projects out there in that way
[13:04]	DaemonFC	<bnchs> DaemonFC, tell me how they're getting high on microsoft's supply
[13:04]	DaemonFC	The ransomware that they used.
[13:04]	DaemonFC	It's a Windows program.
[13:04]	psydroid2	who even attempts to understand all of Linux let alone completely undesirable projects like systemd
[13:04]	bnchs	ohhh
[13:04]	DaemonFC	Nvidia is storing "classified" documents on Windows systems that are network-accessible.
[13:04]	bnchs	you mean all of their servers
[13:04]	DaemonFC	So they deserved that.
[13:04]	bnchs	were running windows
[13:04]	DaemonFC	Yeah.
[13:05]	bnchs	absolute retards
[13:06]	bnchs	cant wait for more ransomware to strike more windows servers
[13:06]	DaemonFC	If you're a company that deals with hundreds of billions in revenue off of one product, you should really only store the details of that product on computers that can only access a LAN, no Internet.
[13:06]	DaemonFC	Then go further by locking them down, like no USB access.
[13:07]	DaemonFC	So nobody can take a thumb drive in there and start copying things.
[13:07]	SomeH4x0r	> only access a LAN | just be sure no computers in this LAN have Internet access
[13:07]	bnchs	lol
[13:07]	bnchs	gnu/linux has many things windows doesn't
[13:07]	bnchs	and one of them is the flexibility of the kernel
[13:08]	DaemonFC	Well, Nvidia doesn't have many trade secrets anymore.
[13:08]	DaemonFC	They lost their programming guides. They lost their driver source code. They lost internal documentation about what all of the registers are and do on the GPUs they sell and have coming up.
[13:08]	DaemonFC	They lost the source code for the device firmwares too.
[13:09]	DaemonFC	From what I gather, they lost firmware for things they're not even going to ship for the next couple of years.
[13:09]	activelow	schestowitz: "better get to work"
[13:09]	DaemonFC	bbl
[13:10]	bnchs	DaemonFC, lol
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[13:10]	bnchs	they can always torrent it back
[13:10]	activelow	what would you think i am doing? currently waiting for some horribly slow compilation job to finish, thanks to incredible software quality of what GNU is
[13:10]	bnchs	activelow, what are you compiling
[13:10]	activelow	a final C-only GNU/Linux release
[13:11]	bnchs	i mean what program currently
[13:12]	activelow	currently it's a gentoo stage1
[13:13]	bnchs	gentoo
[13:14]	bnchs	i'm visiting sourceforge and my fan is blowing rn
[13:15]	activelow	anyway, it succeeded already, yet this time i'll sign and tag it, and deploy it to some production systems
[13:16]	bnchs	just compile gentoo stag0
[13:16]	bnchs	stage 0
[13:16]	activelow	done already
[13:16]	activelow	however, i am planning to fully replace gcc-4.7 with tinycc
[13:17]	activelow	for the base-system of this GNU/Linux distro of mine
[13:17]	bnchs	i'm burning systemrescueCD to a dvd
[13:17]	bnchs	not so CD because it doesn't fit in a full-size CD
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[13:28]	bnchs	sourceforge is garbage
[13:29]	bnchs	the speed will constantly go up and then down like a saw wave
[13:38]	bnchs	nvm just a bad mirror
[13:38]	TR News	Media lexicon: Russia billionaire = oligarch. EU/US billionaire = philanthropist.
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[13:53]	schestowitz	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=tJ7PPUTT3KY
[13:53]	TR Bot	 John Cleese Absolutely OBLITERATES 'Woke' BBC Interviewer on Her 'Cancel Culture Agenda' - Invidious
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[13:56]	bnchs	who's john cheese
[13:57]	schestowitz-TR2	monty ppython
[13:57]	MinceR	John Cheese is the secondary protagonist of John Dies At The End
[13:57]	MinceR	he's also a writer at Cracked, apparently
[13:57]	schestowitz-TR2	he responded to straw men
[13:57]	schestowitz-TR2	"Racist"
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[14:02]	bnchs	cancel culture is shit
[14:02]	bnchs	"this guy said something BAD"
[14:02]	bnchs	"time to isolate him from the world"
[14:06]	bnchs	duckduckgo shouldn't censor websites
[14:08]	bnchs	and especially duckduckgo shouldn't censor websites with misinformation
[14:08]	bnchs	"misinformation"
[14:18]	psydroid4	duckduckgo shouldn
[14:18]	psydroid4	't exist
[14:18]	bnchs	yes true that
[14:19]	bnchs	i sometimes use wiby
[14:20]	SomeH4x0r	psydroid4: was it ever about privacy? Did its size corrupt it?
[14:20]	schestowitz-TR2	no
[14:20]	schestowitz-TR2	it was a scam from the start
[14:20]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/wiki/DuckDuckGo
[14:20]	TR Bot	 DuckDuckGo - Techrights
[14:20]	schestowitz	we've covered that for over  a decade
[14:20]	psydroid4	SomeH4x0r, what schestowitz says
[14:21]	schestowitz	the founder was never an ally of privacy
[14:21]	schestowitz	it's just his marketing ploy
[14:21]	schestowitz	2011: http://techrights.org/2011/11/29/duckduckgo-and-yahoo/
[14:21]	TR Bot	 Microsoft Search Front Ends | Techrights
[14:21]	schestowitz	they've bribed many to perpatuate a lie
[14:21]	schestowitz	Tor Project, EFF...
[14:21]	bnchs	it has tracking domains
[14:22]	schestowitz	even some gnu/linux distros became a circus
[14:22]	schestowitz	preloading this shite
[14:22]	schestowitz	probably because microsoft paid them
[14:22]	MinceR	https://abstrusegoose.com/489
[14:22]	schestowitz	via DDG
[14:22]	TR Bot	 Abstruse Goose | Apophenia
[14:24]	bnchs	so you're saying [strawman phrase] is that ddg is microsoft front?
[14:24]	schestowitz-TR2	it's a proxy at least
[14:24]	schestowitz-TR2	it's hosted on Microsoft computers
[14:24]	schestowitz-TR2	and it gets results from Microsoft
[14:25]	psydroid4	even university professors are in on this
[14:25]	schestowitz-TR2	so you tell me what that is..
[14:25]	psydroid4	without ever disclosing what DDG really is
[14:25]	schestowitz-TR2	psydroid4: maybe without even being bribed
[14:25]	schestowitz-TR2	just misled by figures of authority that are bribed
[14:25]	schestowitz-TR2	and might not know where that money even comes from
[14:26]	schestowitz-TR2	microsoft tried many things against gulag search nover the years
[14:26]	schestowitz-TR2	they bought companies
[14:26]	schestowitz-TR2	they destoryed companies
[14:26]	schestowitz-TR2	they rebranded SEVERAL times
[14:26]	schestowitz-TR2	and gulags till commands about 90% of search globally
[14:26]	schestowitz-TR2	not that this is good
[14:28]	psydroid4	Microsoft isn't up to any good at all
[14:28]	psydroid4	Gulag has its paws in a lot of the internet infrastructure
[14:32]	schestowitz-TR2	the issue is borader than microsoft
[14:32]	schestowitz-TR2	1980s: IBM et al
[14:33]	schestowitz-TR2	Apple and Microsoft in the mist
[14:33]	schestowitz-TR2	but now it's more multi-facetered and dimensional
[14:33]	schestowitz-TR2	with Pentagon bucks pouring out and Wall Street gushing at this agenda
[14:33]	schestowitz-TR2	it now extends "online"
[14:33]	schestowitz-TR2	IBM did not plant listening devices in your home
[14:33]	schestowitz-TR2	this is why FSF was right
[14:34]	schestowitz-TR2	and it generally focused on the basics and fundamentals 
[14:34]	schestowitz-TR2	and yet some people bash it for being oputdated
[14:34]	schestowitz-TR2	when it fact we never successfully tackled the very basics
[14:34]	schestowitz-TR2	Open Source lost
[14:34]	schestowitz-TR2	it did not win
[14:34]	schestowitz-TR2	it was taken over
[14:34]	schestowitz-TR2	not Open Source and monopolies are almost the same
[14:34]	schestowitz-TR2	IBM (Red Hat), Amazon (AWS) etc
[14:35]	schestowitz-TR2	so we're not solving the issue of users being in control of the computing
[14:35]	schestowitz-TR2	in some ways we've drifted further apart
[14:35]	schestowitz-TR2	as more people got connected
[14:35]	schestowitz-TR2	some people's computers, in rural areas, are just a "phone"
[14:35]	schestowitz-TR2	they do not gain fredom
[14:35]	schestowitz-TR2	so there are more computer users
[14:35]	schestowitz-TR2	more people oppressed via some device
[14:36]	schestowitz-TR2	and the governments now try to impose that on or via finance
[14:36]	schestowitz-TR2	"we need to know everything you eat"
[14:36]	schestowitz-TR2	bbiab
[14:36]	schestowitz-TR2	recorded 3 hours video about patents
[14:36]	schestowitz-TR2	processing will take about 8 hurs
[14:37]	bnchs	so bought a stack of DVDs
[14:37]	schestowitz-TR2	why?
[14:37]	schestowitz-TR2	use clown storage
[14:37]	schestowitz-TR2	like MegaUpload
[14:37]	schestowitz-TR2	or Mega
[14:37]	schestowitz-TR2	until some fraud from hong kong buys it
[14:37]	bnchs	because it's so cheap that it's unbelievable
[14:37]	bnchs	and it lasts so long
[14:37]	schestowitz-TR2	and shuts down within 2 years
[14:37]	schestowitz-TR2	or blackmails you to pa y for access to your 'free' clown account
[14:38]	bnchs	but unfortunately
[14:38]	bnchs	they became to see it's longetivity as a threat
[14:38]	bnchs	so they'll remove optical drives from new devices
[14:38]	schestowitz-TR2	put it on shithub
[14:38]	schestowitz-TR2	they have "arctic vault"
[14:38]	schestowitz-TR2	Microsoft: we'll live another 1000 years
[14:38]	bnchs	"arctic vault" is a joke
[14:38]	schestowitz-TR2	"keep thinking that way"
[14:38]	bnchs	if it was real then
[14:39]	schestowitz-TR2	use aws glacier
[14:39]	bnchs	i would have downloaded the fuck out of shithub
[14:39]	schestowitz-TR2	they'll bury it next to jeff's corpse
[14:39]	schestowitz-TR2	in space
[14:39]	schestowitz-TR2	floating, drifting away from earth
[14:39]	schestowitz-TR2	in the wrong direction, melting into the sun
[14:39]	bnchs	it was like 10 DVDs for 4 dollars
[14:39]	schestowitz-TR2	yes, I have a stack also
[14:39]	schestowitz-TR2	mostly blanks
[14:40]	schestowitz-TR2	your music/audio CDs should still work OK
[14:40]	bnchs	and this laptop does have a optical drive
[14:40]	bnchs	probably the last to have it
[14:40]	schestowitz-TR2	maybe with some jitters, but no compression of a bad kind, so it'll work mround these
[14:40]	bnchs	since the streaming services
[14:41]	schestowitz-TR2	streaming is not an alternative
[14:41]	schestowitz-TR2	they are not equivalents
[14:41]	schestowitz-TR2	streaming is worse than DRM
[14:41]	schestowitz-TR2	you keep nothing
[14:41]	schestowitz-TR2	and they get to charge you again and again for the same thing
[14:41]	schestowitz-TR2	it's like owning a cow
[14:41]	schestowitz-TR2	versus buying milk
[14:41]	bnchs	yes
[14:42]	schestowitz-TR2	they want all the cows locked up in tiny cages
[14:42]	bnchs	btw
[14:42]	schestowitz-TR2	milked to death, then shot in the head and sliced
[14:42]	bnchs	streaming services censor old movies
[14:42]	schestowitz-TR2	use internet archive
[14:42]	bnchs	they give you the censored old movies (with characters replaced, some lines cut) for 80 dollars a month
[14:42]	bnchs	this is bull$hit
[14:42]		*psydroid4 has a USB optical drive for dealing with optical media
[14:42]	bnchs	they replaced some of the white guys with black guys
[14:43]	bnchs	because diversity
[14:43]	schestowitz-TR2	they's offensive to the film makers
[14:43]	schestowitz-TR2	some of whom are dead
[14:43]	schestowitz-TR2	and having their work misrepresented
[14:43]	schestowitz-TR2	i never heard of such a thing before
[14:44]	schestowitz-TR2	that also distorts history
[14:44]	schestowitz-TR2	we can learn from past racism
[14:44]	schestowitz-TR2	we don't need to correct it RETROACTIVEKYT
[14:44]	bnchs	https://reclaimthenet.org/old-disney-movies-censorship-disney-plus/
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[14:44]	TR Bot	 Old Disney movies to get a politically correct makeover for new streaming service Disney Plus
[14:44]	bnchs	all the movies you watch will be different
[14:44]	schestowitz-TR2	should we also alter Nuremberg rally footage?  To add blacks to it?
[14:44]	bnchs	completely different from what you remember
[14:44]	schestowitz-TR2	any url on this?
[14:44]	schestowitz-TR2	I never heard of old movies being changed like that
[14:45]	schestowitz-TR2	can you give an example?
[14:47]	bnchs	it has to do with netfilx
[14:50]	bnchs	https://reclaimthenet.org/netflix-censors-back-to-the-future-part-2/
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[14:50]	TR Bot	 Netflix caught censoring Back To The Future Part 2 scene
[14:51]	bnchs	cant find the news about the black guys
[14:54]	bnchs	https://teddit.net/r/netflix/comments/aons2b/is_netflix_cuttingcensoring_movies/
[14:54]	TR Bot	 Is Netflix cutting/censoring movies? : netflix
[14:56]	bnchs	schestowitz-TR2, they also take down movies regionally
[14:57]	bnchs	which is why VPNs/proxies are most used in netflix
[14:57]	bnchs	https://www.indiewire.com/2020/02/netflix-banned-movies-world-1202209500/
[14:57]	TR Bot	Reveals 9 Movies and TV Shows Banned From Its Platform | IndieWire
[14:57]	bnchs	"The Last Temptation of Christ, which is banned in Singapore, removed in the country after written demand from the IMDA"
[14:59]	TR News	A dozen more active Gemini capsule and we're at 1800 known to Lupa gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi
[14:59]	TR News	#HowTo Install Transmission BitTorrent Client on Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162493
[14:59]	TR Bot	 How to Install Transmission BitTorrent Client on Linux | Tux Machines
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[15:18]	schestowitz-TR2	bnchs: maybe you heard something wrong?
[15:18]	bnchs	yes
[15:18]	schestowitz-TR2	I know they remastered some films
[15:18]	schestowitz-TR2	or changed some books a bit
[15:18]	schestowitz-TR2	like sensitive language
[15:18]	schestowitz-TR2	"nigger" is one examp
[15:18]	schestowitz-TR2	old books can have that language
[15:18]	schestowitz-TR2	and it's not about one person calling another person "ma nigger"
[15:18]	MinceR	maybe SJWs will start burning books for that reason
[15:19]	schestowitz-TR2	but about negros repeatedly being referred to in language that makes the books unsuitable for schools
[15:19]	MinceR	http://images7.memedroid.com/images/UPLOADED56/540f288567a82.jpeg
[15:19]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: memedroid.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/http://images7.memedroid.com/images/UPLOADED56/540f288567a82.jpeg
[15:19]	schestowitz-TR2	[15:15] <schestowitz> added dated items to bottom of gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/
[15:20]	schestowitz-TR2	makes it easier to find decent, ad-free, not-adulterated-by-corporations essays
[15:20]	schestowitz-TR2	psydroid4: 
[15:20]	schestowitz-TR2	[08:51] <schestowitz-TR2> spamnil posted 3 videos 3 days ago
[15:20]	schestowitz-TR2	[08:51] <schestowitz-TR2> 7 views
[15:20]	schestowitz-TR2	[08:51] <schestowitz-TR2> 7 views
[15:20]	schestowitz-TR2	[08:51] <schestowitz-TR2> 11 views
[15:20]	schestowitz-TR2	[08:51] <schestowitz-TR2> months ago I laughed to rianne that he is aiming at single-digit stuff
[15:20]	schestowitz-TR2	[08:51] <schestowitz-TR2> he's there now
[15:20]	MinceR	i wonder if ibm people are boycotting MasterCard yet
[15:21]	schestowitz-TR2	WhiteCard
[15:21]	schestowitz-TR2	Wildcard
[15:21]	schestowitz-TR2	MinceR: they sacked whitehurst
[15:21]	schestowitz-TR2	workers were complaining
[15:21]	MinceR	:>
[15:21]	schestowitz-TR2	"I can't work for a dude called that!
[15:22]	schestowitz-TR2	it causes traumatic episodes"
[15:22]	MinceR	but if it were a black female...
[15:22]	schestowitz-TR2	MinceR: they like the book IBM and the Holocaust though
[15:22]	bnchs	mastercard
[15:22]	bnchs	more like MAINCARD
[15:22]	schestowitz-TR2	because it's authored by Ed Black
[15:23]	MinceR	:>
[15:23]	schestowitz	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust
[15:23]	TR Bot	 IBM and the Holocaust - Wikipedia
[15:24]	schestowitz-TR2	look at the book cover
[15:24]	schestowitz-TR2	it has more black in it than white
[15:24]	schestowitz-TR2	and some red shades
[15:24]	schestowitz-TR2	homage to the "reds"
[15:24]	schestowitz-TR2	(native americans)
[15:24]	MinceR	there's a swastika on it
[15:24]	schestowitz-TR2	and a swastika
[15:24]	MinceR	cue the outrage...
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[15:25]	schestowitz-TR2	and the cranks will find some triangles and eyes and flying saucers in it
[15:25]	bnchs	oh my gawd it has swastika
[15:25]	bnchs	its worse than that time in 2006 habbo
[15:25]	schestowitz-TR2	not the hhindu swastika
[15:25]	schestowitz-TR2	that's a symbol of peace
[15:25]	bnchs	a bunch of black guys in affro arranged to form a SWASTIKA
[15:25]	schestowitz-TR2	now it's like pepe the frog
[15:26]	schestowitz-TR2	a cute frog became a symbol of bigotry
[15:26]	MinceR	wolfenstein 3d was censored too
[15:26]	MinceR	because poow widdle nazis got hurt in it
[15:26]	bnchs	schestowitz-TR2, thank 4chan for that
[15:26]	schestowitz-TR2	in germany only, iirc
[15:27]	bnchs	pepe the frog is now a gentleman wearing a suit
[15:27]	bnchs	who doesn't care about what is offensive or not
[15:28]	TR News	"I believe allowing linking to headers within a document using fragments would be massively useful; is in line with the ethos for Geminilinking to parts of a text document isn't any different than any other link to a text document; and (can be) implemented extremely simply." gemini://nytpu.com/gemlog/2021-12-11.gmi
[15:29]	schestowitz-TR2	bnchs: poopoo the frog
[15:29]	schestowitz-TR2	also see: pooh the bear
[15:29]	schestowitz-TR2	"listen, honey.."
[15:30]	schestowitz	 Chelsea                  0 - 0  Newcastle United
[15:30]	schestowitz	Putin's mate versus MbS men
[15:30]	schestowitz	two thugs from zero to zero
[15:31]	schestowitz	curious that after 80 more executions in KSA still no sanctions against NUFC
[15:33]	TR News	"I take notes on my computer too of course. I have used a variety of apps in the past; I am currently using a combination of Vim, Joplin, syncthing, git, and nextcloud. Notes stored on my computer are more often for procedural or repetitive task, or things that I may want to copy and paste." gemini://gemini.lottalinuxlinks.com/posts/2021-03-13-pen-and-paper.gmi
[15:34]	TR News	"Debian does not have i3-gaps in their repos, just plain i3. If you are running debian, and already have i3 from the debian repos installed, and you want to use i3-gaps, I recommend uninstalling the version from the debian repos before proceeding." gemini://gemini.lottalinuxlinks.com/posts/2021-02-06-how-to-build-and-install-i3-gaps-on-debian.gmi
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[15:36]	bnchs	i remember this gayme
[15:36]	bnchs	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_Strikes_Back:_Judgment_Day
[15:36]	TR Bot	 Jesus Strikes Back: Judgment Day - Wikipedia
[15:36]	bnchs	"In 2028, the world is ruled by the homosexual billionaire reptilian satanists George Sorrows and Mark Cuckerberg"
[15:39]	TR News	You know the WWW has become a pile of shit, a distraction-filled POS, when you literally have to cover one eye to focus on what you are reading or move part of a browser window OUT of the screen. Because it's the only way to properly focus and concentrate on what you intend to read (not what's pushed to you).
[15:40]	bnchs	the company that made this is a satiricial game company
[15:40]	bnchs	making the most offensive games ever
[15:40]	schestowitz-TR2	what are those cards that offend? I forgot
[15:40]	schestowitz-TR2	MinceR used to link to some cards
[15:41]	bnchs	"offensive"
[15:41]	bnchs	SJWs, transgenders
[15:41]	bnchs	"who fight against non-player characters including Antifa, immigrants, homosexual people, transgender people, Social Justice Warriors, Feminazis, and Abortion-rights activists "
[15:41]	schestowitz-TR2	no
[15:41]	schestowitz-TR2	other things
[15:41]	schestowitz-TR2	a sort of satirical humour
[15:41]	bnchs	ohhh
[15:41]	bnchs	that cards against humanity
[15:41]	schestowitz-TR2	ah
[15:41]	schestowitz-TR2	Cards Against Humanity
[15:42]	schestowitz	https://assets.onbuy.com/i22/product/f3b547dca94e445dbf0564791151fdec-m27812188/cards-against-humanity-uk-edition-v20-adult-card-game.jpg
[15:42]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: onbuy.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://assets.onbuy.com/i22/product/f3b547dca94e445dbf0564791151fdec-m27812188/cards-against-humanity-uk-edition-v20-adult-card-game.jpg
[15:42]	schestowitz-TR2	there are copycats
[15:42]	bnchs	lol
[15:43]	schestowitz	https://casaworld.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/71sRpqbIZLL._AC_SL1500_.jpg
[15:43]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: casaworld.co.uk | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://casaworld.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/71sRpqbIZLL._AC_SL1500_.jpg
[15:43]	schestowitz	https://www.purewow.com/family/adult-card-games
[15:43]	TR Bot	24 Best Adult Card Games to Play at Your Next Party - PureWow
[15:43]	bnchs	i wonder if you can't play it now
[15:44]	bnchs	because too "offensive"
[15:44]	bnchs	hurts feelingsss
[15:44]	schestowitz	"The damaged minds behind Cyanide & Happiness created it, so dont let grandma play unless you want her to die of a broken heart.
[15:44]	schestowitz	Dark humour
[15:44]	bnchs	oh cyanide and happiness
[15:45]	schestowitz-TR2	MinceR is a fan
[15:45]	schestowitz-TR2	anyway, these push the boundaries
[15:45]	schestowitz-TR2	or humour and speech
[15:45]	schestowitz-TR2	in comedy form
[15:45]	schestowitz-TR2	or banter
[15:45]	schestowitz-TR2	that helps build up tolerance
[15:46]	schestowitz-TR2	otherwise people go into shouting and tears
[15:46]	schestowitz-TR2	any time they hear an uncomfortable opinion, view, even fact
[15:46]	schestowitz-TR2	to the point where colleges cannot teach history
[15:46]	schestowitz-TR2	or need to give trigger warnings
[15:46]	schestowitz-TR2	you cannot draft such people into armies
[15:46]	schestowitz-TR2	they sob and break down at the sight of blood
[15:47]	schestowitz-TR2	and curl up in a fetal position
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[15:48]	bnchs__	schestowitz-TR2, they even changed education
[15:48]	bnchs__	to make it more softer
[15:48]	schestowitz-TR2	wait till there is war
[15:49]	schestowitz-TR2	the more brutal people will win
[15:49]	bnchs__	so people get more dumber and dumber
[15:49]	schestowitz-TR2	because they won't be grossed out
[15:49]	schestowitz-TR2	it's not about dumber
[15:49]	bnchs__	the more brutal men?
[15:49]	schestowitz-TR2	it's about being overly sensitive
[15:49]	schestowitz-TR2	usually men
[15:49]	schestowitz-TR2	ukrainians are not soft
[15:49]	schestowitz-TR2	and they fight back
[15:49]	bnchs__	there's something that can gross them out
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[15:50]	TR News	"In a statement to the BBC, Huq revealed that in two separate instances its "app partners" had not asked for consent from its users, but added swiftly that the issue had now been rectified." gemini://galaxyhub.uk/articles/huq.gmi
[15:52]	TR News	This person does not know about Chafa. gemini://jfh.me/posts/2019-02-23-ascii-face.gmi
[15:52]	TR News	"Ian over at gopher.icu [0] has announced a new gopher search index [1], he calls it Quarry [2]. Always nice to see more work on the gopher search front. The quality of results seems pretty good, and the facility for automatically submitting gopher URIs to be (re-)indexed is very cool." gopher://gopher.unixlore.net:70/0/glog/new-gopher-search-engine-quarry.md
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[16:00]	TR News	Zuckerberg and Microsoft crap interjected into postgres codebase https://git.postgresql.org/gitweb/?p=postgresql.git;a=commit;h=e9537321a74a2b062c8f7a452314b4570913f780
[16:00]	TR News	Top 10 FTP Clients For Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162494
[16:00]	TR Bot	 Top 10 FTP Clients For Linux | Tux Machines
[16:01]	TR News	8 Best Free and Open Source CSS Front-End Frameworks - LinuxLinks https://www.linuxlinks.com/frameworks/
[16:01]	TR Bot	Best Free and Open Source CSS Front-End Frameworks - LinuxLinks
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[16:02]	schestowitz-TR2	pain tolerance or threshold for disgust are an advantage in many circumstances in life
[16:02]	schestowitz-TR2	otherwise people give up too easily
[16:02]	schestowitz-TR2	or don't work towards survival
[16:02]	schestowitz-TR2	in a job
[16:02]	schestowitz-TR2	in a course (education in general)
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[16:03]	schestowitz-TR2	or difficult family situations
[16:03]	schestowitz-TR2	if you treat grown ups like babies
[16:03]	schestowitz-TR2	they will become adult babies
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[16:03]	schestowitz-TR2	and babies cannot compete too well in "the real world"
[16:03]	schestowitz-TR2	so they will perish
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[16:03]	schestowitz-TR2	RMS has very thick skin
[16:04]	schestowitz-TR2	this is why 39 (soon) years later he still promotes the same thing
[16:04]	schestowitz-TR2	no matter how many people try to shame him
[16:04]	schestowitz-TR2	and humiliate him to his face
[16:04]	schestowitz-TR2	it bounces right off him
[16:04]	bnchs__	RMS cant die
[16:04]	bnchs__	i wonder how old he is now
[16:05]	schestowitz-TR2	look who perished
[16:05]	schestowitz-TR2	mcgovern
[16:05]	schestowitz-TR2	bully de blanc
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[16:05]	schestowitz-TR2	and all the other prominent actors calling for his removal
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[16:05]	schestowitz-TR2	their short-sighted attacks on him backfired
[16:05]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2022/02/14/goodbye-mcgovern/
[16:05]	TR Bot	 Reprehensible GNOME Foundation Leadership Falls on Sword While Richard Stallman Returns | Techrights
[16:06]	bnchs__	richard stallman is a wizard
[16:07]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2020/09/12/raspi-freedom/
[16:07]	TR Bot	 Richard Stallman Still Works to Improve the Freedom of the Widely-Used RasPi (Produced in the United Kingdom by the Raspberry Pi Foundation) | Techrights
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[16:08]	bnchs__	they always wanna attack him
[16:08]	schestowitz-TR2	or the gnu project
[16:08]	bnchs__	even though he's important for software freedom
[16:08]	schestowitz-TR2	or fsf
[16:08]	schestowitz-TR2	to hurt him some other way
[16:08]	schestowitz-TR2	like people target people's families
[16:08]	bnchs__	yes
[16:08]	schestowitz-TR2	and then say things like,
[16:08]	bnchs__	they're bribed to attack RMS
[16:08]	schestowitz-TR2	RMS will kill the FSF
[16:08]	schestowitz-TR2	we need to save the FSF
[16:08]	schestowitz-TR2	remove stallman
[16:09]	schestowitz-TR2	these are concern trolls
[16:09]	bnchs__	we need stallman
[16:09]	schestowitz-TR2	and they try to confuse him into falling for it
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[16:09]	schestowitz-TR2	to give up and hand over like mozilla and eff
[16:09]	bnchs__	without him, the FSF or GNU would die
[16:09]	schestowitz-TR2	oh, btw
[16:09]	schestowitz-TR2	one of tghe gnu cancelers of RMS also got removed
[16:09]	schestowitz-TR2	not mttl (lee)
[16:10]	schestowitz-TR2	but one of the fake "gnu" leaders
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[16:10]	bnchs__	coraline (the big free software troll) also voted for the removal of RMS
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[16:10]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 21.58 k/sec., IPFS upstream 72.91 average k/sec., average swarm size 276.75
[16:11]	schestowitz	Andy Wingo is quieter now
[16:11]	schestowitz-TR2	blasting RMS is a losing strategy
[16:11]	schestowitz-TR2	you might get some attention for a day
[16:11]	schestowitz-TR2	but then it haunts you for years
[16:11]	schestowitz-TR2	ask guix devs
[16:11]	schestowitz-TR2	they harmed their image
[16:12]	schestowitz-TR2	and now have a new face
[16:12]	bnchs__	yes and gnome
[16:12]	bnchs__	it's mostly corporations that voted to remove RMS
[16:12]		*activelow remains somewhat sceptical about RMS
[16:12]	activelow	for different reasons
[16:12]	schestowitz	https://guix.gnu.org/en/blog/2022/gnu-guix-maintainer-rotation/
[16:12]	TR Bot	 GNU Guix maintainer rotation 2022 Blog GNUGuix
[16:13]	schestowitz	"For some time already, Ludovic and Marius have voiced their desire to step down from the Guix maintainers collective"
[16:13]	schestowitz	good riddance
[16:13]	bnchs__	i don't care about RMS' political opinions
[16:13]	bnchs__	and hope he doesn't drag it to GNU
[16:13]	activelow	which, RMS should know, the GNU compiler he had written (until version 2.7 some time), this isn't the same type and quality of software which GCC is nowadays
[16:13]	activelow	nonetheless, RMS represents a different generation of software and quality
[16:13]	bnchs__	which he thankfully didn't
[16:14]	schestowitz	"We're sad to see Ludovic and Marius step down from their current duties,"
[16:14]	bnchs__	schestowitz, good riddance
[16:14]	bnchs__	i would have thrown a big party
[16:14]	schestowitz	"The Guix maintainer collective now consists of Efraim Flashner, Mathieu Othacehe, Maxim Cournoyer and Tobias Geerinckx-Rice. "
[16:14]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2020/06/05/guix-petition/
[16:14]	TR Bot	 Guix Petition Demographic Data, by Figosdev | Techrights
[16:14]	schestowitz	many IBM
[16:14]	schestowitz	many with Microsoft accounts
[16:15]	schestowitz	At least 21 have a GitHub accounts
[16:15]	schestowitz	20 have contributed to GitHub in the past year (GitHub as Microsoft)
[16:15]	schestowitz	7 work for Red Hat, owned by the FSFs largest publicly known sponsor
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[16:16]	activelow	does RMS really represent what GCC has mutated into nowadays?
[16:16]	activelow	or, would he really recommend such type of software as "free"?
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[16:16]	schestowitz	activelow: not his thing anymore, same for emacs
[16:16]	schestowitz	smae for Linus and Linux
[16:16]	schestowitz	Linus is the release manager/communicator
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[16:17]	schestowitz	Pentagon (LF) makes all the big decision
[16:17]	schestowitz	Linus is "follower"
[16:17]	schestowitz	Oligarchs "leader"
[16:17]	activelow	can't say anything about emacs, because i'm using vim (different topic)
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[16:17]	schestowitz	Linus wasn't the one with the idea to allow Rust
[16:17]	schestowitz	Linus is "follower"
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[16:18]	bnchs__	microsoft wants RMS removed so they can replace him with a more persuable leader
[16:18]	bnchs__	"leader"
[16:18]	activelow	i mean, this isn't critique towards RMS or Linus, since i wouldn't know myself who they could communicate without causing more harm than benefit free software
[16:19]	activelow	however, i feel free to say it, GCC and Linux kernel aren't anymore what they once were, free software
[16:19]	bnchs__	why?
[16:19]	bnchs__	C++?
[16:19]	TR News	"I need to improve on my workflow with publishing to my Gemini capsule on Flounder, as presently I am doing it by first committing with Git, then looking at the changes list, then using `pass -c flounder.online` to get the password in my clipboard for 45 seconds, and then running `sftp sftp://mkf@flounder.online:2024`" gemini://g.mikf.pl/gemlog/2022-03-07.gmi
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[16:20]	schestowitz-TR2	batalie: bloated with many deps
[16:20]	schestowitz-TR2	impossible to study
[16:20]	schestowitz-TR2	impossible to run on old machines
[16:20]	schestowitz-TR2	with floppies
[16:20]	bnchs__	yes
[16:20]	schestowitz-TR2	and hard for hobbyists to contribute to
[16:20]	schestowitz-TR2	maybe by design
[16:21]	bnchs__	gcc source code is very cryptic
[16:21]	schestowitz-TR2	and plan/intention
[16:23]	TR News	"I want youth to learn to see computation as a part of how they can be in the world, not because programming is a way of getting The Big Money or even because it's something that needs to be enjoyed for its own merits, but like writing as a useful tool to engage with the world and explore their own thoughts and beliefs." gemini://inconsistentuniverse.space/gemlog/2022-03-08-cc.gmi
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[16:25]	activelow	GCC and Kernel implement an insame amount of extensions to support proprietary/malicous hardware and software
[16:25]	activelow	smearing GPL onto
[16:26]	TR News	"In life, people don't have only one task they're meant to do and nothing else--they often want to live full, rich lives with a myriad of experiences. To that end, sometimes I find the increasing popularity of positive-regulation concepts in society rather concerning." gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2022/202203/20220309-social-least-privilege.gmi
[16:28]	TR News	Techrights has its best month so far with quarter million hits over gemini:// in less than 13 days gemini://gemini.techrights.org/stats/index.gmi
[16:28]	activelow	then next, although it serves interests of big corproations' share-holders, their value, GPL relieves from warranty
[16:28]	activelow	another comfortable arrangement i would say
[16:31]	schestowitz-TR2	implicitly
[16:32]	schestowitz	very modular = good for small communities
[16:32]	schestowitz	and "loner" devs
[16:32]	schestowitz	overly-complex and integrated = bad for forkers etc.
[16:32]	schestowitz	frequent release cycles = harder to fork
[16:32]	schestowitz	see system, chromium etc.
[16:33]	schestowitz	even Firefox :-)
[16:33]	schestowitz	how many releases behind is LibreWolf?
[16:33]	schestowitz	I still use 94
[16:33]	schestowitz	and firefox has a release every 1.5 months IIRC, maybe less
[16:33]	schestowitz	they try to play or pray on the weakness of the competion
[16:33]	schestowitz	number of people and  limited resources
[16:34]	schestowitz	but in the process they make their OWN software hard to maintain
[16:34]	schestowitz	in 2020 you can end up with like 10 different versions of systemd scattered around distros
[16:34]	schestowitz	each with its own bugs
[16:34]	schestowitz	so they are busy chasing IBM's bugs
[16:35]	schestowitz	and cannot innovate much on top
[16:35]	schestowitz	Microsoft uses similar tactixs
[16:35]	schestowitz	it keeps changing and breaking APIs
[16:35]	schestowitz	the "third party" developers are unable to keep up
[16:35]	schestowitz	their stuff stops working too often
[16:37]	activelow	and, developing/programming isn't fun anymore
[16:42]	schestowitz-TR2	why not?
[16:42]	schestowitz-TR2	why can it not be fun?
[16:47]	activelow	sure it can be, yet for me it isn't fun anymore with Linux kernel and GCC
[16:47]	activelow	and that's only the two most prominent components, besides all the other chaos
[16:49]	activelow	btw. since i was talking about DirectFB, another "fun" factor again, was noticing cheating and theft of ideas
[16:49]	activelow	when someone picked up developing, without at least talking to me which patches i already got
[16:50]	activelow	and this wasn't the only "coincidence" such as this, what this type of "community" is
[16:51]	SomeH4x0r	theft of ideas?
[16:51]	activelow	theft, yes
[16:51]	SomeH4x0r	I don't treat is as theft
[16:51]	activelow	well then, let me say, treat them as assholes
[16:52]	SomeH4x0r	I'm not good at socializing, I could do such thing as well
[16:52]	SomeH4x0r	no idea who has what patches
[16:53]	activelow	there wasn't alot to do, to bring this back to life
[16:53]	activelow	anyway
[16:54]	activelow	yet, i wish them best of luck with their version 2.x fork now
[16:54]	activelow	the other one recently was, when i talked about c++ and C11, and linux kernel mailing list and lwn.net began picking up the noise
[16:54]	activelow	again, without consulting me
[16:55]	activelow	meanwhile, whoever it is, stuff their pockets with IBM salaries
[16:55]	activelow	or Microsoft
[16:55]	activelow	don't know, who those are
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[16:57]	XRevan86	schestowitz: LibreWolf is up-to-date.
[16:58]	schestowitz-TR2	the flatpak?
[16:58]	schestowitz-TR2	the changes they make need to be procedural
[16:58]	schestowitz-TR2	like in linux-libre
[16:58]	schestowitz-TR2	that limits what can be done
[16:58]	schestowitz-TR2	and increases work/overhead of maintaining it
● Mar 13
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[17:06]	TR News	"I saw a toot on mastodon today talking about the program checkrestart. checkrestart, which is part of the debian-goodies package, can check and see which processes need to be restarted after an upgrade . So why is this cool, what does it do, and is it worth installing?" gemini://gemini.lottalinuxlinks.com/posts/2021-01-18-checkrestart-needrestart.gmi
[17:08]	TR News	"From a historical perspective it makes sense, the first language designers were American or British and so used English, and from that point on if you're a programmer that could create a new language you also spoke English and would make your new language be English to fit in, and it got to the point where all programming is English basically." gemini://nytpu.com/gemlog/2021-10-31.gmi
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[17:22]	activelow	^ "from a historical perspective", "the first" language design wasn't english. Konrad Zuse, and the language was Plankalkl.
[17:29]	MinceR	there's also var'aq and Perligata
[17:29]	MinceR	and languages that have no human language connection, like Malbolge
[17:30]	MinceR	there's also Ook!
[17:32]	activelow	none of them were, "in a historical perspective", relevant to "language design", nor "the first" to approach it
[17:33]	activelow	with computers
[17:33]	MinceR	they are non-english, though, not even "basically" :>
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[17:59]	TR News	Hashtag wars in social control media are useless. After a day or less nobody pays attention and it does not help spread information, it's pigs wrestling in mud.
[17:59]	bnchs	yes
● Mar 13
[18:00]	bnchs	hashtags are useless anyway
[18:00]	TR News	Got the next part of the long series about Microsoft/GitHub/Copilot ready for tonight or tomorrow. It's quite long, detailed, and fact-checked.
[18:07]	MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/2203056
[18:08]	TR Bot	 IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/pq2vohehwtk81.jpg created on 2022-03-05 04:48:42.526624
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[18:15]	schestowitz	MinceR: he can denazify the country by getting the hell out of it
[18:16]	MinceR	yeah
[18:18]	TR News	Why I hate gulagtube more and more over time: people with cameras, looking for youtube drama, provoking homeless people with their minds already in a bad state, in order to make a scene at risk to oneself (then running to the police for help, as he does in another video after provoking the police for 12+ years) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFM5mPQYB20
[18:18]	TR Bot	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=fFM5mPQYB20
[18:18]	TR Bot	yewtu.be | Dirty Manchester 2: Even Bigger Conflicts - Invidious
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[18:20]	TR News	YouTube is sometimes hailed as an accountability tools (for corrupt cops/PDs), but actually a lot of the time YouTube's very existence encourage people to act badly, abuse people, even abuse cops (not those who are up to no good). Gulag social control media is no better than Facebook's. Also technically.
[18:21]	TR News	A world (or World Wide Web) without social control media was.... and WOULD again be... far more civil. We need to eradicate this 'web cancer'. Stop participating in it. That's a start. http://techrights.org/2022/03/01/twitter-happier-during-wars/
[18:21]	TR Bot	 Twitter Profits From Conflict | Techrights
[18:21]	bnchs	gulagtube is full of dramawhores
[18:22]	schestowitz-TR2	yes
[18:22]	bnchs	twitter is also full of dramawhores
[18:22]	schestowitz-TR2	but in this case
[18:22]	schestowitz-TR2	a Manchester dude
[18:22]	schestowitz-TR2	whom I know BTW
[18:22]	schestowitz-TR2	he's provoking dangerous edgy people
[18:22]	schestowitz-TR2	and then runnignt o the cops
[18:22]	schestowitz-TR2	whom he abused since 2008
[18:22]	schestowitz-TR2	"The Love Police"
[18:22]	schestowitz-TR2	if you're going to make a scene by provoking people on ther street
[18:22]	schestowitz-TR2	you're on your own
[18:23]	schestowitz-TR2	the cops should leave him to it...
[18:23]	schestowitz-TR2	until he gets stabbed or something
[18:23]	bnchs	lol what an asshole
[18:23]	schestowitz-TR2	there are worse videos
[18:23]	schestowitz-TR2	he namecalls random people
[18:23]	schestowitz-TR2	then films their reactions
[18:24]	schestowitz-TR2	and calls eyewitnesses names too
[18:24]	schestowitz-TR2	he keeps doing it here in Manchester
[18:24]	schestowitz-TR2	I met him several times
[18:24]	schestowitz-TR2	he has this toxic attitude 
[18:24]	bnchs	in real life?
[18:24]	schestowitz-TR2	he's even abusing vegan activists
[18:24]	schestowitz-TR2	bnchs: yes
[18:24]	bnchs	what is he even doing
[18:24]	schestowitz-TR2	getting attention
[18:24]	schestowitz-TR2	it didn't work the old way
[18:24]	schestowitz-TR2	so he's provoking more and more
[18:25]	schestowitz-TR2	the original channel was Danny Shine
[18:25]	schestowitz-TR2	who was very nice, funny, and polite
[18:25]	bnchs	yes thats obvious
[18:25]	schestowitz-TR2	they he left, as the channel devolved into something very negative and toxic
[18:25]	bnchs	maybe his parents didn't love him enough
[18:25]	schestowitz-TR2	that's for sure
[18:25]	schestowitz-TR2	anyway...
[18:25]	bnchs	so he copes by getting attention
[18:25]	schestowitz-TR2	I boycotted his channel a year ago
[18:25]	schestowitz-TR2	after he had abused people
[18:26]	schestowitz-TR2	for drama
[18:26]	schestowitz-TR2	and then called a lady who called him out on  it
[18:26]	schestowitz-TR2	calling her "fat"
[18:26]	schestowitz-TR2	saying COVID would kill her
[18:26]	schestowitz-TR2	that video should have been submitted to the police as evidence against him
[18:26]	schestowitz-TR2	and weeks ago he ran to the cops
[18:26]	schestowitz-TR2	asking for protection
[18:26]	schestowitz-TR2	I don't get the mind of these people
[18:26]	bnchs	i wonder how he hasn't gotten arrested
[18:26]	schestowitz-TR2	they hatre cops
[18:26]	schestowitz-TR2	then love copos
[18:26]	schestowitz-TR2	when they make up a mess
[18:27]	schestowitz-TR2	bnchs: he was arrested many times
[18:27]	schestowitz-TR2	and not employable
[18:27]	schestowitz-TR2	anyway, gulag reards people for it
[18:27]	schestowitz-TR2	iirc, fb doex too
[18:27]	bnchs	not employable?
[18:27]	schestowitz-TR2	I don't know fb well enough
[18:27]	bnchs	then why quit
[18:27]	schestowitz-TR2	rianne used to have an account ages ago
[18:27]	bnchs	when you're already not employable
[18:27]	schestowitz-TR2	exactly
[18:28]	schestowitz-TR2	he quit for 3 years 
[18:28]	schestowitz-TR2	than came back
[18:28]	schestowitz-TR2	worse than before
[18:28]	bnchs	because he's already unemployable
[18:28]	schestowitz-TR2	his "best" videos are the ones where he abuses random poor and sometimes homeless people here in manchester
[18:28]	schestowitz-TR2	I cannot understand how he can reconcile this
[18:28]	schestowitz-TR2	he abuses vulnerable people
[18:28]	bnchs	schestowitz-TR2, because he's at a dead end in his life
[18:28]	schestowitz-TR2	it's interesting to watch sometimes because it's my city
[18:28]	bnchs	he can't regain his reputation
[18:28]	schestowitz-TR2	but far too abrasive
[18:29]	bnchs	so might aswell do shit
[18:29]	schestowitz-TR2	yeah, maybe...
[18:29]	schestowitz-TR2	cannot see his kids
[18:29]	schestowitz-TR2	2 of them iirc
[18:29]	schestowitz-TR2	the mother moved away from him from what I can gather...
[18:29]	schestowitz-TR2	in sindon
[18:29]	schestowitz-TR2	swindon
[18:29]	schestowitz-TR2	anyway, enough about charlie
[18:30]	schestowitz-TR2	the issue is,
[18:30]	schestowitz-TR2	gulag and gulagtube
[18:30]	schestowitz-TR2	and by extension other social, control media
[18:30]	schestowitz-TR2	they need to think if bullying is something they are OK with
[18:30]	schestowitz-TR2	they get the audience
[18:30]	schestowitz-TR2	but at what cost to society?
[18:30]	schestowitz-TR2	he put me in some of his videos
[18:30]	schestowitz-TR2	I did not see these
[18:30]	schestowitz-TR2	but people I know saw them
[18:30]	bnchs	really?
[18:30]	schestowitz-TR2	I was telling him to calm down a little
[18:31]	schestowitz-TR2	he never shows those parts
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[18:31]	schestowitz-TR2	because that is now flattering to him
[18:31]	schestowitz-TR2	gulag does not intervene here
[18:31]	schestowitz-TR2	but does censor many news channels
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[18:31]	schestowitz-TR2	I reckon
[18:31]	schestowitz-TR2	plutocreats are political
[18:31]	schestowitz-TR2	they want political censorship
[18:32]	schestowitz-TR2	some dude aggressing homeless people is of no concern to them
[18:32]	schestowitz-TR2	so gulag let it be
[18:32]	schestowitz-TR2	"haver at it!"
[18:32]	schestowitz-TR2	*have
[18:32]	bnchs	drama is what gets you at the top
[18:32]	bnchs	in social control media
[18:32]	schestowitz-TR2	that's ok
[18:32]	schestowitz-TR2	but...
[18:32]	bnchs	because it's what attracts people
[18:32]	schestowitz-TR2	when the existence of the platform eggs you on to CREATE drama
[18:33]	schestowitz-TR2	that's a problem
[18:33]	schestowitz-TR2	like people climbing skysscapers and bridges
[18:33]	schestowitz-TR2	and they won't upload the video when there are accidents and they fall... SPLAT
[18:33]	bnchs	thats for liveleak
[18:33]	schestowitz-TR2	it makes a mess on the pavement
[18:33]	schestowitz-TR2	liveleak is shut down already
[18:34]	schestowitz-TR2	now there's stuff like binchute
[18:34]	bnchs	yes maybe bestgore
[18:36]	bnchs	life is already shit
[18:38]	schestowitz-TR2	it's not ok to make others' shit too
[18:38]	schestowitz-TR2	if his life is a dead end, he should stay home
[18:38]	schestowitz-TR2	in late 2019 he was going round the malls here
[18:38]	bnchs	yes
[18:38]	schestowitz-TR2	trolling people over COVIDF
[18:38]	bnchs	but will he ever have a home
[18:39]	schestowitz-TR2	and mocking Italian stores
[18:39]	schestowitz-TR2	while COVID was battering Italy
[18:39]	bnchs	it's only a matter of time before he goes homeless
[18:39]	schestowitz-TR2	then going in Chinatown
[18:39]	schestowitz-TR2	provoking the community there
[18:39]	schestowitz-TR2	so the damage he is doing is unwarranted and not deserved
[18:39]	schestowitz-TR2	Danny Shine used to focus on Canary Wharf and banks
[18:39]	schestowitz-TR2	trolling and bashing the bnksters
[18:40]	schestowitz-TR2	in 2008/2009, the collapse
[18:40]	schestowitz-TR2	not aggressing and teasing homeless people on drugs
[18:40]	schestowitz-TR2	I blame not only gulag
[18:40]	bnchs	it's only a matter of life before he goes homeless or some shit
[18:40]	schestowitz-TR2	I blame the herd that pushes the web in this direction
[18:41]	schestowitz-TR2	as harassment machines that targets the vulnerable
[18:41]	schestowitz-TR2	it was exposing power before
[18:41]	schestowitz-TR2	wikileaks did that
[18:41]	bnchs	he'll probably kill himself after he becomes so miserable
[18:41]	schestowitz-TR2	maybe if they shut down the channel
[18:41]	schestowitz-TR2	he nuked his own channel this month
[18:41]	schestowitz-TR2	after people were complaining to his family
[18:43]	bnchs	it's more like he's probably doing this because his life is short anyway
[18:43]	bnchs	and worthless
[18:44]	schestowitz-TR2	I am trying to think of a way to approach this isue as article
[18:44]	schestowitz-TR2	or video
[18:44]	schestowitz-TR2	but it would require airing the videos of the abusers
[18:44]	schestowitz-TR2	as an example
[18:44]	schestowitz-TR2	and that would give them more exposure
[18:45]	schestowitz-TR2	suggestions welcome
[18:45]	schestowitz-TR2	it has been bugging me for years
[18:45]	schestowitz-TR2	esp. youtube doing this
[18:46]	schestowitz-TR2	I know how to explain the issue here
[18:46]	schestowitz-TR2	but it would need examples, which means amplifying the abuse
[18:46]	schestowitz-TR2	also, he takes scenes out of context
[18:46]	schestowitz-TR2	intentionally pumping up people mentally 
[18:46]	immibis	schestowitz-TR2: if they WEREN'T okay with bullying wouldn't you be crying censorship?
[18:46]	immibis	if they let people upload whatever, bullying
[18:46]	schestowitz-TR2	and then showing the reaction without the provocation/context
[18:46]	immibis	if they don't let people upload bullying, censorship
[18:47]	schestowitz-TR2	immibis: there's an issue
[18:47]	schestowitz-TR2	bullying and antisocial behaviour are against the law
[18:47]	schestowitz-TR2	put aside gulagtube
[18:47]	schestowitz-TR2	and some of his own videos are like evidence against him
[18:47]	schestowitz-TR2	showing he is provoking people
[18:47]	schestowitz-TR2	if they do something about it, he'll cry "censorship"
[18:48]	schestowitz-TR2	it's hard to teach the unreasonable person to become reasonable
[18:51]	bnchs	there's no true anti-censorship
[18:51]	bnchs	sites ban illegal shit like CP
[18:53]	schestowitz-TR2	anyway, this issue is not new
[18:53]	schestowitz-TR2	around 2006 in youtube
[18:53]	schestowitz-TR2	when it was "you"
[18:53]	schestowitz-TR2	I saw some videos of boys bullying a classmate
[18:53]	schestowitz-TR2	maybe even disabled
[18:53]	schestowitz-TR2	and wanted to somehow report it
[18:53]	schestowitz-TR2	if not to the platform, then to the school
[18:53]	bnchs	lol alot of worse things in 4chan
[18:53]	schestowitz-TR2	that was more than 15 years ago
[18:53]	schestowitz-TR2	clearly the problem still exists
[18:54]	schestowitz-TR2	bullying people for "shits and giggles" in "the internetzzz"
[18:54]	bnchs	for the lulz
[18:54]	schestowitz-TR2	bnchs: yes, but we don't have politicians going to 4chan
[18:54]	schestowitz-TR2	like they do gulagtube
[18:54]	bnchs	yes
[18:54]	schestowitz-TR2	they legitimise something not good
[18:54]	schestowitz-TR2	and it hars society
[18:55]	schestowitz-TR2	*harms
[18:55]	bnchs	they hate federal agents there
[18:55]	schestowitz-TR2	enforcing the law is now the same as cnesorship
[18:55]	schestowitz-TR2	if they do illegal things in videos
[18:56]	bnchs	it really depends on what is illegal
[18:56]	bnchs	if speaking against your gov is illegal
[18:56]	schestowitz-TR2	no
[18:56]	schestowitz-TR2	abusing homeless people
[18:56]	schestowitz-TR2	and provoking vulnerable people
[18:57]	bnchs	yes that should be illegal
[18:57]	schestowitz-TR2	that's why people contact family members I assume
[18:57]	schestowitz-TR2	as they can talk to him
[18:57]	bnchs	i'm pretty sure he has already cut ties with his family
[18:58]	TR News	Steam Deck LIVE: Vampire Survivors + Q&A - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=XbXPg2qRwm8
[18:58]	TR Bot	 Steam Deck LIVE: Vampire Survivors + Q&A - Invidious
[18:58]	schestowitz-TR2	bnchs: or opposite
[18:58]	schestowitz-TR2	I think he barely sees his kids anymore..
[18:59]	schestowitz-TR2	so he came back after hiatus 
[18:59]	schestowitz-TR2	each time he gets back it's worse
[18:59]	schestowitz-TR2	and more combative
[18:59]	schestowitz-TR2	my dad told me about that channel like 14 years agoi
[18:59]	schestowitz-TR2	it was fun and funny
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[19:00]	TR News	Why am I building a programming language in private? https://drewdevault.com/2022/03/13/Why-am-I-working-in-private.html
[19:00]	TR Bot	 Why am I building a programming language in private?
[19:00]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162495
[19:00]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[19:07]	TR News	Links 13/3/2022: FTP Clients For GNU/Linux and Release of KDE Frameworks 5.92 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/13/kde-frameworks-5-92/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/13/kde-frameworks-5-92/
[19:07]	TR Bot	 Links 13/3/2022: FTP Clients For GNU/Linux and Release of KDE Frameworks 5.92 | Techrights
[19:07]	TR News	8 Best Free and Open Source CSS Front-End Frameworks Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162496
[19:07]	TR Bot	 8 Best Free and Open Source CSS Front-End Frameworks | Tux Machines
[19:07]	TR News	Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162497
[19:07]	TR Bot	 today's leftovers | Tux Machines
[19:09]	TR News	Hmmmm... is W3C dying? Replaced by GAFAM itself? Directly? For weeks now their validator has been broken. Unavailable too. It had worked for 18 years for me. Can they not bother anymore?
[19:09]	TR News	KDE Frameworks 5.92.0 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162492#comment-33055
[19:09]	TR Bot	 KDE Frameworks 5.92 Improves Dolphin and KRunner, Plugs Memory Leaks, and Fixes Bugs | Tux Machines
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[19:49]	DaemonFC	nordvpn set autoconnect on Untitled\ Document\ 1\ .... yes thank you fish.
[19:49]	DaemonFC	Not United States, oh no, Untitled Document 1.
[19:50]	DaemonFC	Then from the people who brought you Untitled Document 1 comes Untitled Document 2 and Untitled Document 3. Starring Liam Neeson.
[19:52]	bnchs	untitled document.pdf
[19:52]	bnchs	Save changes to Untitled.png?
[19:52]	DaemonFC	"On July 4, 2008, Fallout 3 was refused classification by the Australian Classification Board (ACB) in Australia, thus making it illegal to distribute or purchase the game in the country."
[19:52]	DaemonFC	immibis, There's another reason why much of the English-speaking world is not Free.
[19:52]	bnchs	DaemonFC, lol just torrent
[19:52]	DaemonFC	They can just "refuse to classify" movies, like the People's Republic of China does.
[19:53]	DaemonFC	Pretty much.
[19:53]	DaemonFC	It renders those politicians unimportant.
[19:53]	DaemonFC	They say you can't have it. You disagree.
[19:53]	bnchs	just torrent
[19:53]	DaemonFC	Share with friends. Tell them how to stuff it into Wine.
[19:53]	bnchs	or import it
[19:53]	DaemonFC	Bonus: No Microsoft backdoors.
[19:53]	DaemonFC	THey can't recompile it and shove a nastier version into your Steam account.
[19:54]	bnchs	how about playing the PS3 version
[19:54]	bnchs	no microsoft backdoors, just freebsd
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[19:54]	MinceR	(cat) https://imgur.com/t/cats/kJhSJ
[19:54]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://imgur.com/t/cats/kJhSJ
[19:54]	TR Bot	might say I spoil him too much. - Album on Imgur
[19:54]	DaemonFC	"A revised version of the game was resubmitted to the ACB and reclassified as MA 15+ on August 7, 2008, or not suitable for people under the age of 15 unless accompanied by a parent or adult guardian; this new rating ensured that the game could retail legally in Australia.[139][142] According to the ACB board report, the drug content was not removed entirely from the revised version of the game, but the animation showing the actual usage of the 
[19:54]	DaemonFC	drugs was removed; the minority view on the decision stated that the drug content was still enough to warrant a refused classification rating."
[19:55]	MinceR	just freebsd, dominated by MICROS~1 and crApple
[19:55]	DaemonFC	I wonder if there's a "Fuck Australia" mod to put the animations back in.
[19:55]	bnchs	lol drugs
[19:55]	bnchs	drug animations
[19:55]	bnchs	the skooma drinking animation in obvilion was shit
[19:55]	DaemonFC	It's probably referring to people in-game using Jet or Psycho.
[19:55]	TR News	Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162498
[19:55]	TR Bot	 Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
[19:56]	DaemonFC	They make you faster and more accurate in VATS and slow down time and stuff (bullet time).
[19:56]	DaemonFC	But the game doesn't reward you for using them.
[19:56]	DaemonFC	If you do it often enough, you become physically dependent on them and without them, your stats suffer until you're cured of the addiction.
[19:57]	bnchs	virtual addiction
[19:57]	bnchs	hmmm
[19:57]	DaemonFC	This reminds me of Tipper Gore and the Democrats saying GTA rewards you for killing the police.
[19:57]	DaemonFC	It doesn't. It increases your wanted level and eventually ensures that you get killed by the police (or military) and lose all of your weapons and a lot of money.
[19:58]	bnchs	"lose all of your weapons"
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[19:58]	bnchs	i think that was GTA SA and older
[19:58]	DaemonFC	Nope.
[19:58]	DaemonFC	In GTA V, you still have access to them.
[19:58]	DaemonFC	But you have to buy them all back from a gun shop.
[19:58]	bnchs	yes they take away your ammo
● Mar 13
[20:02]	DaemonFC	"Bethesda Softworks changed the side quest "The Power of the Atom" in the Japanese version of Fallout 3 to relieve concerns about depictions of atomic detonation in inhabited areas, as the memory of the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki remains strong in the country. In non-Japanese versions, players are given the option of either defusing, ignoring, or detonating the dormant atomic bomb in the town of Megaton; in the Japanese version, 
[20:02]	DaemonFC	the character of Mr. Burke is absent, making it impossible to choose the detonation option.[149] Also in the Japanese release, the Fat Man nuclear catapult weapon was renamed Nuka Launcher, as the original name was a reference to Fat Man, the bomb used on Nagasaki.[149][150] According to Tetsu Takahashi, responsible for localizing Fallout 3 to Japan under his company ZeniMax Asia, the available actions prior to localizing "The Power of the 
[20:02]	DaemonFC	Atom" and the ability to kill civilians almost got the game banned by CERO before it received an Adult Only Rating.[151]"
[20:02]	TR News	Excellent Free Tutorials to Learn Less - LinuxLinks https://www.linuxlinks.com/excellent-free-tutorials-learn-less/
[20:02]	DaemonFC	Heh.
[20:02]	TR Bot	Free Tutorials to Learn Less - LinuxLinks
[20:03]	DaemonFC	There's really no upside to detonating the weapon in Megaton as far as the game storyline goes. IIRC, it ruins all the side quests and gives you a bunch of negative karma.
[20:03]	TR News	Reiser(FS) will die. While he's in prison. https://appuals.com/reiserfs-may-lose-support-in-linux-kernel/
[20:03]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: appuals.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://appuals.com/reiserfs-may-lose-support-in-linux-kernel/
[20:03]	TR Bot	may Lose Support in Linux Kernel - Appuals.com
[20:03]	bnchs	oh no nuke japanese is still sad
[20:03]	TR News	Best Linux Distro for Beginners in 2022: Top 5 Picks Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162499
[20:03]	TR Bot	 Best Linux Distro for Beginners in 2022: Top 5 Picks | Tux Machines
[20:03]	bnchs	need to censor fallout 3
[20:03]	bnchs	oh well
[20:04]	DaemonFC	It's unlikely that ReiserFS is going to be removed.
[20:04]	DaemonFC	Most of the concerns were fixed in a patchset by Edward Shishken.
[20:04]	DaemonFC	They keep looking for excuses to get rid of it.
[20:04]	bnchs	rename it to mailorderbridekillerFS
[20:04]	bnchs	or MOBKFS
[20:05]	TR News	Doing it wrong, copying malware: "This is pretty recent and first trials. Not in master (or trunk) and some goals need to be achieved first in order to be ready: Working perfectly in one core when SMP is activated" https://nitter.eu/reactos/status/1503008686750539778?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
[20:05]	TR Bot	 ReactOS (@reactos): "This is pretty recent and first trials. Not in master (or trunk) and some goals need to be achieved first in order to be ready: Working perfectly in one core when SMP is activated, then letting multiple cores to work in coordination." | nitter
[20:06]	TR News	"Hello! Today I want to talk about how do you know youre getting better at programming?" https://jvns.ca/blog/2022/03/13/celebrate-tiny-learning-milestones/
[20:06]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: jvns.ca | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://jvns.ca/blog/2022/03/13/celebrate-tiny-learning-milestones/
[20:06]	TR Bot	 Celebrate tiny learning milestones
[20:08]	bnchs	if i went back in time
[20:08]	bnchs	i would have disrupted reiser's marriage
[20:08]	bnchs	it will save his life
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[20:10]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 22.30 k/sec., IPFS upstream 26.31 average k/sec., average swarm size 276.79
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[20:18]	schestowitz-TR2	his or hers?
[20:18]	TR News	postmarketOS // v21.12 Service Pack 3 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162500
[20:18]	TR Bot	 postmarketOS // v21.12 Service Pack 3 | Tux Machines
[20:19]	bnchs	no his
[20:19]	TR News	11 more gemini capsules and it's 1800 active ones gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi
[20:19]	bnchs	reiser would have never murdered her
[20:20]	bnchs	if he never met her in the first place
[20:20]	schestowitz-TR2	he is not the victim though
[20:20]	schestowitz-TR2	he is still alive 
[20:20]	bnchs	yes i know
[20:20]	bnchs	but in the past
[20:20]	schestowitz-TR2	and petitioning to get out 
[20:20]	bnchs	neither was the victim
[20:20]	bnchs	the best way is to sabotage their relationship
[20:20]	XRevan86	I think that making reiser3 a read-only FS in the kernel would be an O.K. move.
[20:20]	bnchs	before it escalates like that
[20:20]	XRevan86	Because it's no longer a good FS, not even a decent FS.
[20:21]	bnchs	a breakup/divorce is better than a murder
[20:21]	XRevan86	So just by looking at the technical side of things.
[20:21]	bnchs	and just imagine, he would still be developing reiserFS
[20:22]	DaemonFC	https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/YhltiUy%2FWtA0Dz5g@mit.edu/
[20:22]	TR Bot	 Re: Is it time to remove reiserfs? - Theodore Ts'o
[20:22]	schestowitz-TR2	bnchs: you got it all wrong
[20:22]	schestowitz-TR2	maybe you are too young to know or remember
[20:22]	bnchs	tell me?
[20:22]	schestowitz-TR2	he murdered because the marriage fail
[20:22]	DaemonFC	"but once
[20:22]	DaemonFC	upstream deprecates a feature, the distributions can no longer rely on
[20:22]	DaemonFC	upstream developers to fix a critical stability or security bug in
[20:22]	DaemonFC	upstream, so it can be backported into an LTS or stable distro kernel.
[20:22]	DaemonFC	They are on their own.
[20:22]	DaemonFC	The bug might even be fixed in one enterprise distro's kernel product,
[20:22]	DaemonFC	but an isolated patch might not be available; only a megapatch of all
[20:22]	schestowitz-TR2	screwing it harder would not have hleped
[20:22]	DaemonFC	of the distro's changes afgainst an upstrema kernel as a single
[20:22]	schestowitz-TR2	that said,
[20:22]	DaemonFC	un-broken-out-and-GPL-compliant patch.  So a critical bugfix present
[20:22]	DaemonFC	in one distro release might not be so easily carried over to another
[20:22]	DaemonFC	distro."
[20:22]	DaemonFC	RHEL
[20:22]	schestowitz-TR2	twitter and FB now say it's OK to call for murder of Russians
[20:23]	schestowitz-TR2	and nina was russian
[20:23]	schestowitz-TR2	today's standasrs of social control media are vomit-inducing
[20:23]	bnchs	schestowitz-TR2, so reiser should have never met her
[20:23]	DaemonFC	They might not even mention that they bumped that particular file, so you'd have to watch for it and reconstruct the patch yourself. :/
[20:23]	bnchs	how about this
[20:24]	TR News	Extend Ubuntu LTS Support Period to 10 Years With Ubuntu Advantage Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162501
[20:24]	TR Bot	 Extend Ubuntu LTS Support Period to 10 Years With Ubuntu Advantage | Tux Machines
[20:24]	bnchs	i know his wife is a russian mail order bride
[20:24]	XRevan86	I don't know if this is obvious, but if a person murders someone, it's a huge gigantic red flag.
[20:24]	XRevan86	That means there is something wrong with them period.
[20:25]	XRevan86	It's not about who met whom.
[20:25]	bnchs	oh
[20:25]	XRevan86	Don't kill people, even when they "insult your faith".
[20:26]	psydroid4	twitter and FB (= US government) say it's OK to call for murder of Russians
[20:26]	bnchs	XRevan86, insult your faith?
[20:26]	psydroid4	and they expect us to take them seriously in any way?
[20:26]	bnchs	well it's probably not like the wife was innocent aswell
[20:27]	bnchs	"Ramon was trained in military interviewing techniques and claimed that Nina lied to him when he confronted her about inexplicably-fast shrinking reserves of Namesys"
[20:27]	TR News	Why Is the Linux Logo a Penguin? The Story Behind Tux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162257#comment-33056
[20:27]	TR Bot	 Why Is the Linux Mascot a Penguin? | Tux Machines
[20:28]	bnchs	i know it's bad to advocate for a murderer
[20:28]	schestowitz-TR2	iirc, putler used that as a pretext to deletre one such sociual control media site
[20:28]	bnchs	but there has to be a reason why he murdered her
[20:28]	schestowitz-TR2	i think one of"meta"
[20:28]	schestowitz-TR2	maybe instagram
[20:30]	bnchs	his worst mistake is to get a mail order bride
[20:31]	bnchs	these usually only care about getting green card
[20:34]	TR News	OSMC March update is here with Kodi v19.4 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162502
[20:34]	TR Bot	 OSMC March update is here with Kodi v19.4 | Tux Machines
[20:34]	DaemonFC	https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/tdarjp/floating_billboards_at_florida_beaches/
[20:35]	XRevan86	bnchs: Just bringing some other "good reason" to kill into the mix.
[20:35]	TR Bot	 Floating billboards at Florida beaches : LateStageCapitalism
[20:35]	DaemonFC	Glad that the last time I was there, they didn't have this shit.
[20:35]	bnchs	XRevan86, what?
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[20:36]	XRevan86	bnchs: Never mind.
[20:36]	TR News	Still paid to promote the scam that is Startpage https://yewtu.be/watch?v=F97b4Iv82vY see Startpage reality: http://techrights.org/wiki/Startpage
[20:36]	TR Bot	 How to play your Epic Games on Steam Deck (and Linux) - Invidious
[20:36]	TR Bot	 Startpage - Techrights
[20:37]	TR News	The Linux Experiment in becoming an 'influencer' http://techrights.org/2022/03/12/on-influencers/
[20:37]	TR Bot	 Circle of YouTube Influencers | Techrights
[20:38]	TR News	"Source code licensing can be very complex and because of this there are loop holes which can arise with GPL style licenses where companies can completely avoid sharing the source code. Remember I'm not a lawyer, seek a professional for actual legal advice" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=cXLFXV6zIyk
[20:38]	TR Bot	 How Companies Avoid Sharing GPL Source Code - Invidious
[20:39]	TR News	A friend of the EPOs Benot Battistelli and Antnio Campinos is now in (partial) control of the European Commission, which makes one wonder if oversight is possible at any level http://techrights.org/2022/03/13/european-commission-involved/
[20:39]	TR Bot	 [Meme] European Commission Part of the EPOs Abuses | Techrights
[20:39]	bnchs	"Source code licensing can be very complex and because of this there are loop holes which can arise with GPL style licenses where companies can completely avoid sharing the source code. Remember I'm not a lawyer, seek a professional for actual legal advice"
[20:39]	bnchs	is this FUD?
[20:39]	bnchs	or is it relating to the loophole in GPL
[20:39]	bnchs	that got fixed in AGPL
[20:40]	TR News	 #IRC Proceedings: Saturday, March 12, 2022 Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/13/irc-log-120322/
[20:40]	TR Bot	 IRC Proceedings: Saturday, March 12, 2022 | Techrights
[20:40]	TR News	Some interesting numbers or trends from Poland this month Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/13/poland-and-gnu-linux/
[20:40]	TR Bot	 Poland Reducing Dependence on Back-Doored Windows | Techrights
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[20:41]	schestowitz-TR2	hi, techrights_guest|2
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[20:43]	TR News	"I took my first step towards my goal of bringing interest in the Free Software movement back here in Mexico: I invited RMS to give an online conference at a tech event in my school. He accepted!" gemini://avalos.me/gemlog/2021-10-24-update-october-2021.gmi
[20:43]	DaemonFC	https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/tce6nu/if_you_find_a_job_go_to_buy_a_house/
[20:43]	TR Bot	 If you find a job, go to buy a house : LateStageCapitalism
[20:44]	TR News	"Even the well-intentioned privacy-focused legal obligations, not to mention not-so-well-intentioned copyright-focused legal obligations, that are being applied to operators of internet services are, in my opinion, helping separate internet participants into those who consume and those who produce." gemini://thelambdalab.xyz/phlog/2019-06-15-Dwarves-and-Gophers.txt
[20:45]	DaemonFC	BaronHK
[20:45]	DaemonFC	
[20:45]	DaemonFC	just now
[20:45]	DaemonFC	Interest rates got lower and people used it as a subsidy to raise housing prices, and now if interest rates go up, the real estate market fails.
[20:45]	DaemonFC	Trump spoke the truth once and nobody listened at all. "If you raise interest rates even a little bit, the entire economy will fail immediately.".
[20:45]	TR News	"The backup server runs sshd, and that's pretty much it. A cron job takes backups every now and then from the home directories on it and from the service server, and from another server that I help maintain. It's a very simple setup. " gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-03-13-well-that-was-a-busy-weekend.gmi
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[20:47]	TR News	"A new programming language is a major undertaking. Were building one with an explicit emphasis on simplicity and were still not done after two years." gemini://drewdevault.com/2022/03/13/Why-am-I-working-in-private.gmi
[20:47]	DaemonFC	https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/tcz7e4/only_true_fans_can_afford_a_house/
[20:47]	TR Bot	 Only True Fans Can Afford A House. : LateStageCapitalism
[20:47]	DaemonFC	Whoops
[20:47]	DaemonFC	BaronHK
[20:47]	DaemonFC	
[20:47]	DaemonFC	just now
[20:47]	DaemonFC	And they're the lucky ones. Nobody wants to see me naked so it's not like I can upload porn there. Believe me, I've thought about that for a couple of seconds.
[20:47]	DaemonFC	The people who don't have the body types to resort to sex work are disadvantaged in this economy while the ones who are get instant kompromat uploaded by themselves in case they decide to do anything with their life later and would otherwise pull it off..
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[20:48]	TR News	"I thought what a different world it was. The internet was not a toy. Originating from the military network, provided by the state to the academic network, it produced real information that was not intended for entertainment." gemini://szczezuja.space/gemlog/2022-03-13-Gopher-novice-part-x.gmi
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[20:49]	DaemonFC	As far as just living in an expensive Democrat city where the cost of living has gone full tilt nuts, while folks there throw people in front of the subway train.....Have you considered living somewhere that's f***ing normal?
[20:49]	TR News	"Today I noticed how out-of-touch with the world I've gotten. I sometimes just sit in front of my computer and don't even think about doing anything productive, I end up watching YouTube and just consume product. I don't even know what I am typing anymore because I don't even have to consciously type" gemini://metalune.xyz/glog/14-03-2022.gmi
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[20:55]	schestowitz	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antitrust_(film)
[20:55]	schestowitz	"Antitrust's proopen source story excited industry leaders and professionals, with the prospects of expanding the public's awareness and knowledge level of the availability of open-source software. The film heavily features Linux and its community, using screenshots of the Gnome desktop, consulting Linux professionals, and including cameos by Miguel de Icaza and Scott McNealy (the latter appearing in the film's trailers). Jon Hall, executive 
[20:55]	TR Bot	 Antitrust (film) - Wikipedia
[20:55]	schestowitz	director of Linux International and consultant on the film, said "[Antitrust] is a way of bringing the concept of open source and the fact that there is an alternative to the general public, who often don't even know that there is one."[11]'
[20:55]	schestowitz	https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0315417/
[20:55]	TR Bot	Code (2001) - IMDb
[20:58]	DaemonFC	https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/td59cy/so_generous/
[20:58]	TR Bot	 So generous : LateStageCapitalism
[20:58]	DaemonFC	yomamasanon
[20:58]	DaemonFC	
[20:58]	DaemonFC	9 hr. ago
[20:58]	DaemonFC	lol the uk straight up left the eu bc of refugees from the middle east and africa but now they wanna open up the borders again? i fucking hate it here.
[20:58]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: gemini://nytpu.com/gemlog/2021-11-12.gmi
[20:58]	DaemonFC	HighAdmiral
[20:58]	DaemonFC	
[20:58]	DaemonFC	8 hr. ago
[20:58]	DaemonFC	Its different this time bro! These refugees are white!!!
[20:59]	DaemonFC	:)
[20:59]	DaemonFC	Nazis running the UK.
[20:59]	DaemonFC	Putin might have to just skip over everyone else and liberate schestowitz 
● Mar 13
[21:00]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: it's about prospects of integration
[21:00]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, Pretty much every time you post something that one moderator doesn't like, you get banned from another subreddit. I had it happen to me in /r/Linux on a post with 27,800 positive karma.
[21:00]	schestowitz	as for immigrants and asylum seekers, the payments can be a gateway until they find a job
[21:01]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: reddit is  waste of time
[21:01]	schestowitz	see link above
[21:01]	schestowitz	don't bother
[21:01]	schestowitz	and try not to send them traffic
[21:01]	schestowitz	Miguel de Icaza will turn 50 on 23 November.
[21:01]	schestowitz	as if turns out
[21:01]	schestowitz	I thought he was younger
[21:02]	DaemonFC	All of a sudden, Merrill Lynch's app to manage your 401(k) account is really glitchy and doesn't want to let you log in, and if you do it won't show you your balance.
[21:02]	DaemonFC	I wonder why that could possibly be.
[21:07]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, From Reddit (me):
[21:07]	DaemonFC	I love how the price of groceries can double inside of two years but useless crap can be produced in endless amounts for about the same, maybe less. Just to keep "sales numbers" up, most carriers are back to "giving away" high end smartphones for customer retention and I even had mine stick me on a senior discount plan when I said the bill was too high and I wanted to cancel.
[21:07]	DaemonFC	But eggs have gone up 33% so far this year.
[21:08]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, In 2002, I had a Sprint phone with obviously no "smart" features.
[21:08]	DaemonFC	It cost about $50 a month plus tax.
[21:09]	DaemonFC	They made me pay for the phone, full price. It was a Nokia.
[21:09]	DaemonFC	Now they're just straight up "Here's an iPhone 13. Here's a Pixel 6. Two lines of unlimited data and everything? $70. We even threw the taxes in there!".
[21:09]	DaemonFC	But food.....food costs 3.5 times what it did in 2002.
[21:10]	DaemonFC	How the hell is this even possible?
[21:10]	bnchs	yo mama so fat, when she steps on a digital scale, the scale overflows to 10
[21:11]	bnchs	overflows twice
[21:11]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: bnchs can you spot typos? http://techrights.org/2022/03/13/copilot-plagiarism-enabler/
[21:11]	TR Bot	 [Teaser] Microsofts GitHub: Plagiarism Enabler | Techrights
[21:11]	bnchs	sure
[21:12]	bnchs	"made by gpl"
[21:13]	bnchs	isn't it supposed to be "licensed under GPL"
[21:13]	bnchs	schestowitz, ^
[21:13]	immibis	DaemonFC: now compare it to the Russian-speaking world where it's illegal to hold a blank piece of paper
[21:13]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, Picard Season 2 Episode 2. Q tells Picard what went wrong with the altered timeline. Why the Earth is dying and humanity does the least possible to keep it going.
[21:14]	DaemonFC	"In your timeline, humanity realized it was killing the planet, stopped doing it, and repaired the damage. Here they just tend to the corpse.".
[21:14]	DaemonFC	Apparently, the divergence point was in 2024.
[21:14]	immibis	<schestowitz-TR2> bullying and antisocial behaviour are against the law <- you do realize most censorship that people approve of has reasons that are about as good as this one?
[21:14]	DaemonFC	Sounds a lot like Donald Trump came back, and then people decided to start using Bill Gates's band-aids as the solutions.
[21:15]	immibis	DaemonFC: keeping average price stable means that as some things become cheaper, other things become more expensive
[21:15]	DaemonFC	"You can't eat a TV."
[21:15]	bnchs	immibis, how about censoring the barest minimum (whats illegal on the server's country)
[21:16]	immibis	bnchs: posting videos of bullying isn't illegal in the USA, is it?
[21:16]	bnchs	is harassment illegal?
[21:16]	bnchs	what he's doing is providing evindence of his harassment
[21:16]	bnchs	posting videos of bullying isn't illegal
[21:17]	bnchs	but if you're the one harassing, then it's illegal
[21:19]	schestowitz-TR2	yes
[21:19]	schestowitz-TR2	and gulag profits from it
[21:19]	schestowitz-TR2	there is a moral issue here
[21:19]	schestowitz-TR2	legality aside
[21:20]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR2, "ID Root How To Install Tixati on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS idroot"
[21:20]	DaemonFC	No warning that it's proprietary?
[21:21]	bnchs	sometimes platforms have their own terms and guidelines
[21:21]	DaemonFC	There's really not much reason to prefer this. It's potentially dangerous since you can't verify what's in it and it doesn't come from a trusted source (Flathub or Debian).
[21:21]	bnchs	DaemonFC, torrent veterans advise against using proprietary bittorrent clients
[21:21]	TR News	[Teaser] Microsofts GitHub: Plagiarism Enabler | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/13/copilot-plagiarism-enabler/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/13/copilot-plagiarism-enabler/
[21:21]	bnchs	it might have backdoors
[21:21]	TR Bot	 [Teaser] Microsofts GitHub: Plagiarism Enabler | Techrights
[21:22]	TR News	[Teaser] Microsofts GitHub: Plagiarism Enabler | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/13/copilot-plagiarism-enabler/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/13/copilot-plagiarism-enabler/
[21:22]	DaemonFC	"<bnchs> it might have backdoors"
[21:22]	DaemonFC	Bittorrent, Inc. has even put cryptocurrency miners in theirs.
[21:22]	DaemonFC	And that's the official clients.
[21:22]	schestowitz	oh,, crap, typo in the eme
[21:22]	schestowitz	meme
[21:22]	bnchs	bittorrent as in the protocol
[21:22]	DaemonFC	Not that being an open source client program means it's not crap.
[21:22]	bnchs	not the company
[21:22]	bnchs	schestowitz, "made by gpl"
[21:23]	bnchs	isn't it supposed to be licensed under gpl
[21:23]	DaemonFC	BitTornado and Deluge aren't as good as QBittorrent.
[21:23]	DaemonFC	They don't always respect SOCKS proxy settings.
[21:23]	DaemonFC	So you can have leaks into the swarm.
[21:23]	DaemonFC	Not that SOCKS is a great idea to be safe from copyright trolls because it's unencrypted.
[21:23]	DaemonFC	Your ISP can still see what you're doing.
[21:24]	bnchs	qbittorrent has worked for me
[21:24]	DaemonFC	At best, SOCKS would just hide your IP from the swarm and force copyright trolls to get it some other way.
[21:24]	schestowitz-TR2	bnchs: yes, but I made that intentionally
[21:24]	schestowitz-TR2	for short
[21:24]	schestowitz-TR2	licensed was the typo
[21:24]	bnchs	oh
[21:25]	bnchs	made under gpl?
[21:25]	bnchs	not made by gpl?
[21:29]	DaemonFC	https://www.pcmag.com/news/torguard-will-prevent-vpn-customers-from-using-bittorrent
[21:29]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: pcmag.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.pcmag.com/news/torguard-will-prevent-vpn-customers-from-using-bittorrent
[21:29]	TR Bot	Will Prevent VPN Customers From Using BitTorrent | PCMag
[21:30]	bnchs	vpn blocks protocol
[21:30]	bnchs	and to do that they have to have deep packet inspection
[21:30]	DaemonFC	"The company also says that it "would have taken immediate steps to stop further piracy such as suspending users and adopting a firewall to filter out BitTorrent traffic as it has now begun to do" if its hosting provider, QuadraNet, had made it aware of the studios' piracy complaints."
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[21:34]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162503
[21:34]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[21:34]	TR News	GNOME 42 Release Candidate Brings Back Fingerprint Dialog in Control Center Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162504
[21:34]	TR Bot	 GNOME 42 Release Candidate Brings Back Fingerprint Dialog in Control Center | Tux Machines
[21:34]	TR News	Linux 5.17-rc8 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162505
[21:34]	TR Bot	 Linux 5.17-rc8 | Tux Machines
[21:35]	bnchs	DaemonFC, so much for privacy
[21:35]	bnchs	spying on your user's traffic
[21:36]	bnchs	and blocking certain protocols
[21:36]	bnchs	kinda RUINS the point of a VPN
[21:37]	TR News	Planet Computers Launched Astro Slide 5G, a Smartphone Packed with Updated Specifications http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162466#comment-33058
[21:37]	TR Bot	 Astro Slide 5G Hands-On: Slider in your hand, Debian in your pocket | Tux Machines
[21:37]	kingoffrance	the difficulty is then you have to explain to non-tech people:  yes, it calls itself a VPN   yes, it says it protects privacy.      no, it is in fact an anti-VPN that does the complete opposite
[21:38]	kingoffrance	trojan is the word
[21:38]	DaemonFC	https://i.redd.it/dcv4ksxvj4n81.png
[21:39]	bnchs	sometimes marketing is not true
[21:39]	schestowitz-TR2	sometiems it ius
[21:39]	schestowitz-TR2	seldom
[21:39]	schestowitz-TR2	marketing that is tgrue is considered bad marketing
[21:39]	schestowitz-TR2	because it does less than "optimal"
[21:39]	bnchs	a VPN that blocks certain protocols (which is ONLY possible if you intercept every packet your users send, which is a big red flag)
[21:40]	DaemonFC	Just get a VPN that hides you from the VPN.
[21:41]	DaemonFC	It's like inception with VPNs.
[21:41]	DaemonFC	Each VPN, your Internet slows down to 10% of the speed you had in the real world.
[21:41]	schestowitz-TR2	DaemonFC: they already know you are gay
[21:41]	TR News	Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162506
[21:41]	TR Bot	 Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
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[21:44]	DaemonFC	https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/03/12/fire-chief-says-antioch-fire-stations-in-extremely-bad-shape-will-seek-tax-levy-increase-referendum/
[21:44]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: lakemchenryscanner.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/03/12/fire-chief-says-antioch-fire-stations-in-extremely-bad-shape-will-seek-tax-levy-increase-referendum/
[21:44]	TR Bot	 Fire chief says Antioch fire stations in 'extremely bad shape,' will seek tax levy increase referendum
[21:44]	DaemonFC	"These salaries are so low we have a hard time retaining paramedics and EMTs, Cokefair said. Its scary to think people suffering from a heart attack are being given CPR and paddled by a paramedic earning about the same as a crew member at Dunkin Donuts."
[21:44]	DaemonFC	AEDs aren't hard to use. I know how to use one.
[21:45]	DaemonFC	It won't shock the patient until the computer has analyzed their heart rhythm and determined if it's necessary or not.
[21:45]	schestowitz-TR2	he mocks Dunkin Donuts
[21:45]	schestowitz-TR2	and their workers
[21:45]	schestowitz-TR2	as if they are unworthy
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[21:45]	schestowitz-TR2	could be phrased better
[21:46]	schestowitz-TR2	the workers are not properly rewarded for a very important job
[21:46]	schestowitz-TR2	where the profit margins are huge
[21:46]	schestowitz-TR2	and their superiors steal all the money
[21:46]	schestowitz-TR2	Dunkin Donuts does not matter
[21:46]	bnchs	internet connection at night gets unstable
[21:46]	schestowitz-TR2	 like the king
[21:46]	DaemonFC	Yeah, that guy at Dunkin Donuts gives me more than I ordered.
[21:47]	DaemonFC	They have to throw it all out if they don't sell it by 4 PM on Sundays.
[21:47]	bnchs	i wish they banned facebook live streaming
[21:47]	schestowitz-TR2	bnchs: tell him to get stabler with a bit of v14gra
[21:47]	bnchs	this bandwidth is literally unusable
[21:47]	AdmFubar	after I explain the flaws in winders and fruit computers.. that usually shocks them into a heart attack...
[21:47]	DaemonFC	So I swing by about an hour before they close and they just stuff all kinds of extra stuff in the bag.
[21:47]	bnchs	schestowitz-TR2, implying he can have sex
[21:47]	DaemonFC	<bnchs> schestowitz-TR2, implying he can have sex
[21:47]	DaemonFC	"Sex" is broadly defined.
[21:48]	DaemonFC	There's machines for this now.
[21:48]	DaemonFC	I suppose that will get more popular.
[21:48]	schestowitz-TR2	bnchs:: DaemonFC: who said anything about sex?
[21:48]	DaemonFC	It's easier to just disconnect from the world entirely now and not even try to have a family.
[21:48]	AdmFubar	Orgasmatrons?
[21:49]	bnchs	internet connection at night gets unstable, because of these shitty live streams
[21:49]	DaemonFC	There's apparently some sort of sex robot brothel coming to Chicago.
[21:49]	bnchs	everyone does live streams on facebook
[21:49]	bnchs	and there's little bandwidth to go
[21:49]	DaemonFC	It's not illegal to share a sex robot, so they say they just clean then out really well and you can buy your own "insert" if you want.
[21:49]	DaemonFC	Which sounds really gross, but it's Chicago, so.
[21:50]	schestowitz-TR2	I see you 'survey' the attractions
[21:50]	bnchs	DaemonFC, i wonder why they use a machine for this anyway
[21:50]	bnchs	it's weird
[21:50]	DaemonFC	It can't be any worse than Steamworks.
[21:50]	immibis	bnchs: so why should youtube delete evidence of harassment?
[21:51]	bnchs	immibis, i'm not saying delete it
[21:51]	bnchs	maybe keep it up?
[21:51]	immibis	DaemonFC: why are you okay with censoring evidence of bullying, but not okay with censoring piracy?
[21:51]	schestowitz-TR2	glag profits from this
[21:51]	schestowitz-TR2	and this activity is encouraged
[21:51]	immibis	bnchs: this whole thing was about schestowitz-TR2 calling for youtube to censor evidence of harassment, IIRC
[21:51]	schestowitz-TR2	I was in the kitchen when I thought, it's even worse
[21:51]	bnchs	yes
[21:51]	schestowitz-TR2	because they wind people up
[21:51]	schestowitz-TR2	and next this you kjnow they beat up or stab someone else
[21:51]	schestowitz-TR2	or kill themselves
[21:51]	bnchs	schestowitz-TR2, it's actually better to keep it up
[21:52]	bnchs	so that they can keep gathering up evidence
[21:52]	schestowitz-TR2	all because of some jerk who wanted "drama" for his gulag channel
[21:52]	schestowitz-TR2	gulag was dragged to court over this in italy
[21:52]	immibis	schestowitz-TR2: that's the argument used for most censorship (that anyone of note agrees with)
[21:52]	schestowitz-TR2	kids bullying a disabled guy
[21:52]	bnchs	schestowitz-TR2, i know gulag encourages people bullying
[21:53]	bnchs	but they don't encourage critizing their platofmr
[21:53]	DaemonFC	<immibis> DaemonFC: why are you okay with censoring evidence of bullying, but not okay with censoring piracy?
[21:53]	immibis	people argue to censor RT because RT winds people up, and next thing you know they vote for fascists to be the government, all because of some foreign propagandists
[21:53]	DaemonFC	Shoot, shovel, and shut up.
[21:53]	schestowitz-TR2	social control media is COLLECTIVELY NOT HEALTHy for society
[21:53]	schestowitz-TR2	we needf to boycott it
[21:53]	schestowitz-TR2	to smash it
[21:53]	bnchs	yes
[21:53]	schestowitz-TR2	it has gone to the point of rewarding wars
[21:53]	schestowitz-TR2	and now entertains calls to murdr Russians
[21:53]	schestowitz-TR2	it's OK to ask to klll "some" people
[21:54]	schestowitz-TR2	this is their policy now
[21:54]	bnchs	now they justify killing russians
[21:54]	bnchs	they justify being racist against russians
[21:54]	schestowitz-TR2	so we need to kill those companies
[21:54]	DaemonFC	It's a term used for unintended side effects of the Endangered Species Act. If you're a farmer and you find something undesirable living on your land that you can't get rid of....Shoot, shovel, and shut up. And that's what copyright law does with piracy.
[21:54]	bnchs	because putin was a fag
[21:54]	schestowitz-TR2	because they kill us with nuclear escalationst
[21:54]	DaemonFC	It doesn't get rid of it. It drives it further underground though.
[21:54]	schestowitz-TR2	they profited when Trump threatens to nuke nations
[21:54]	schestowitz-TR2	threatening mass vilence in tweets
[21:54]	schestowitz-TR2	to kill millions 
[21:54]	schestowitz-TR2	Twitter stood by, counting the ad money
[21:55]	DaemonFC	There's a million ways to get things done, you know. There's the porn trolls that sit and watch bittorrent.
[21:55]	bnchs	so being racist against blacks is BAD
[21:55]	bnchs	but being racist against russians or whites is GOOD
[21:55]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2022/03/01/twitter-happier-during-wars/
[21:55]	TR Bot	 Twitter Profits From Conflict | Techrights
[21:55]	AdmFubar	they don't sit and watch... they actively supply to entrap
[21:56]	DaemonFC	Yes, that.
[21:56]	DaemonFC	You can't torrent on "Opera VPN".
[21:56]	bnchs	oh how about this
[21:56]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2022/01/10/twitter-victim-gagging/
[21:56]	TR Bot	 How Twitter Helps Perpetrators of Sexual Violence | Techrights
[21:56]	immibis	DaemonFC: with piracy that's the intended outcome though
[21:56]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2022/01/10/twitter-streisand/
[21:56]	TR Bot	 Twitter is Silencing Victims of Sexual Abuse to Protect Violent Men Who Assault Women (Also: GitHub/Microsoft Employees Too Have Complained About the Perpetrator) | Techrights
[21:56]	AdmFubar	that however turned out to be very unprofitable
[21:56]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2021/02/17/twitter-controlling-society/
[21:56]	DaemonFC	But nothing stops you from direct downloading using Video Download Helper.
[21:56]	TR Bot	 Twitter Controls Society on Behalf of Corporations and Oligarchs (Social Control Media Was All Along Just That) | Techrights
[21:56]	bnchs	demoneitize "bullying" videos schestowitz
[21:56]	schestowitz	MbS OK
[21:56]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/bill-gates-pays-twitter/
[21:56]	TR Bot	 Reality is Warped When You Pay for Perception Management (or: Bill Gates Pays Twitter for Propaganda) | Techrights
[21:56]	bnchs	so it's not censorship
[21:56]	schestowitz	go cook some more journalists, MbS
[21:56]	schestowitz	don't forget to pay Twitter afterwards
[21:56]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2021/12/29/straw-man-censorship/
[21:56]	TR Bot	 Criticising Microsoft and the OSI is COVID-19 Misinformation | Techrights
[21:57]	schestowitz	crime is OK
[21:57]	bnchs	because they can still watch his video
[21:57]	schestowitz	criticising crime is not OK
[21:57]	bnchs	but theres no ads on it
[21:57]	DaemonFC	Three black kids in Chicago rope up a disabled guy and torture him on Facebook Live? That's what you were talking about? I remember that. The prosecutor used the video at the trial. 
[21:58]	DaemonFC	Here, let's upload the evidence! 
[21:58]	DaemonFC	Herr derr!
[21:58]	bnchs	DaemonFC, yeah thats better
[21:58]	bnchs	uploading evidence
[21:58]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: not the point
[21:58]	schestowitz	the point is
[21:58]	schestowitz	the fb live thing
[21:58]	schestowitz	give them MOTIVATION
[21:58]	DaemonFC	He might have had Down Syndrome, but they were black. "Let's upload this to Facebook, yo!".
[21:58]	schestowitz	to torture someone
[21:58]	schestowitz	you cannot UNDO that
[21:58]	DaemonFC	"Betcha we get lotsa likes!"
[21:58]	schestowitz	just like CCTV can provide some evidence after the crime was committed
[21:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.78 k/sec., IPFS upstream 62.35 average k/sec., average swarm size 276.81
[21:59]	schestowitz	 but usually not undo the crime
[21:59]	schestowitz	and not help catch the person
[21:59]	bnchs	it's actually better for them to upload the video to the internet
[21:59]	schestowitz	you need to first catch the person
[21:59]	schestowitz	]
[21:59]	bnchs	because it would be evidence
[21:59]	schestowitz	the cctv does not help much towards it
[21:59]	DaemonFC	Maybe they were victims of leaded gasoline. mjg59_ says not to be so hard on them.
[21:59]	schestowitz	but helps convict
[21:59]	DaemonFC	They can't help it. Freeways you know.
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[22:00]	DaemonFC	It's always something.
[22:00]	immibis	schestowitz: just to make sure I've got this right - you do think platforms should censor these videos, right?
[22:00]	DaemonFC	People have to "explain" why they're a bunch of fuck-ups.
[22:00]	schestowitz	immibis: not my point at all
[22:00]	DaemonFC	"They put freeways in the city 'n sheeit!"
[22:00]	schestowitz	my point is, these "uses" of the Web are a net negative
[22:00]	schestowitz	with "like" buttons and all
[22:00]	schestowitz	the "new Web"
[22:00]	immibis	you want to shut down social media but the second-best would be shutting down these videos?
[22:01]	schestowitz	they ENCOURAGE and give INCENTIVE to do bad things sometimes
[22:01]	DaemonFC	Believe me, I know about the freeways in the city. The off ramps are usually the worst, too.
[22:01]	schestowitz	and the old Web was not like this
[22:01]	bnchs	it would be better to not shut down these videos
[22:01]	DaemonFC	Every bum in the city knows to go point a gun and make you get out of your car.
[22:01]	bnchs	but shut down the platforms
[22:01]	DaemonFC	Or at least squeegee the windshield and demand cash.
[22:01]	immibis	bnchs: that's really big censorship
[22:01]	bnchs	immibis, what do you mean by that
[22:01]	bnchs	the platform has psychological tricks
[22:01]	schestowitz	[22:01] <bnchs> but shut down the platforms
[22:02]	immibis	bnchs: censoring an entire platform is much bigger than censoring a particularly objectionable category of video
[22:02]	schestowitz	no, boycott
[22:02]	schestowitz	let them fail
[22:02]	schestowitz	by our choosing
[22:02]	DaemonFC	I wonder how much money mjg59_ gives to squeegee men.
[22:02]	immibis	boycotting never works. not once.
[22:02]	bnchs	boycotting, yes
[22:02]	schestowitz	recognising they're a burden on civil society
[22:02]	schestowitz	go read books online
[22:02]	immibis	even germany can't boycott mordstream
[22:02]	immibis	(mord = murder in german)
[22:02]	DaemonFC	While self-driving cars run them over.
[22:02]	bnchs	immibis, not shutting down
[22:02]	schestowitz	germany needs gas and oil
[22:02]	DaemonFC	It's been in the news.
[22:02]	bnchs	but rather stop using their platform
[22:02]	DaemonFC	Self-driving cars run over pedestrians.
[22:02]	schestowitz	germany does not need "likes"
[22:03]	immibis	bnchs: you will stop using it and they will say "bye, felicia"
[22:03]	schestowitz	or "giggles" from "social" "media"
[22:03]	DaemonFC	Then the company goes "Well, we'll fix it in an update.....maaaaaybe.".
[22:03]	bnchs	maybe if more people join in
[22:03]	bnchs	like facebook's decline
[22:03]	schestowitz	gulagtube needs to fall too
[22:04]	schestowitz	people can still share videos
[22:04]	schestowitz	and not be censored because "OMG RUSHAN"
[22:04]	bnchs	russians are BAD
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[22:04]	kingoffrance	eh, 5 guys smacking a homeless guy around is why "eastern" "collectivism" doesnt work. clearly the "west" with "individualism" is superior   </sarcasm>
[22:05]	kingoffrance	oh wait, that happens in the "west"
[22:05]	kingoffrance	strange
[22:05]	bnchs	you don't understand
[22:05]	bnchs	i gotta have to troll these homeless people
[22:05]	bnchs	it's for MONEY
[22:05]	kingoffrance	lol
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[22:06]	TR News	"It's a stock market simulator where you compete with other teams to make the most money by, just trading, like a real stock market. In case you needed proof of Idiomdrottning's point about investors/gamblers benefiting at the expense of others it's literally a game-like competition." gemini://nytpu.com/gemlog/2022-01-16.gmi
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[22:06]	bnchs	"stock market simulator"
[22:07]	immibis	schestowitz: if you couldn't shut down social media, would you at least shut down the bullying videos?
[22:07]	bnchs	hmmm i wonder what gaymes adopted that
[22:07]	immibis	bnchs: the reason people are quitting facebook is because facebook is not providing a good experience for them. NOT because of a boycott
[22:07]	kingoffrance	thats a good point:  my money is individualist.  your money is collectivist.      where does money fit into this "east" vs "west" lol
[22:07]	bnchs	immibis, yes
[22:07]	bnchs	immibis, also is your question for schestowitz a trap?
[22:08]	TR News	"This is as bad as it could possibly be. The first question on everyone's mind has to be, 'How on Earth did someone exfiltrate 125GB of the most sensitive data imaginable without tripping a single alarm?' There's going to be some very hard questions asked internally." gemini://galaxyhub.uk/articles/twitch.gmi
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[22:09]	schestowitz-TR2	immibis: I did not say shut them down
[22:09]	schestowitz-TR2	let them fail
[22:09]	schestowitz-TR2	leave them
[22:09]	schestowitz-TR2	and don't participate in the hate machine
[22:09]	schestowitz-TR2	others have said the aame for years
[22:09]	bnchs	good answer
[22:10]	schestowitz-TR2	they drive up their "engagement" and "screen time" at our expense
[22:10]	bnchs	wasn't facebook exposed for that
[22:10]	bnchs	trying to see which posts trigger a emotion
[22:11]	TR News	"Users and usage can cause significant issues. Even something like good traffic could cause an issue. But there are also scenarios where bots or malicious traffic can cause a lot of issues." gemini://jfh.me/posts/2019-04-14-release-it-notes.gmi
[22:12]	schestowitz	https://edition.cnn.com/2021/03/03/tech/facebook-right-wing-misinformation/index.html
[22:12]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: cnn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://edition.cnn.com/2021/03/03/tech/facebook-right-wing-misinformation/index.html
[22:12]	TR Bot	 Right-wing misinformation on Facebook is more engaging than its left-wing counterpart, research finds - CNN
[22:12]	schestowitz	https://www.npr.org/2021/03/06/974394783/far-right-misinformation-is-thriving-on-facebook-a-new-study-shows-just-how-much
[22:12]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: npr.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.npr.org/2021/03/06/974394783/far-right-misinformation-is-thriving-on-facebook-a-new-study-shows-just-how-much
[22:12]	TR Bot	 Far-Right Misinformation Drives Facebook Engagement : NPR
[22:12]	bnchs	yes
[22:12]	schestowitz	https://www.visionofhumanity.org/ring-wing-and-left-wing-activity-on-facebook-research-findings/
[22:12]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: visionofhumanity.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.visionofhumanity.org/ring-wing-and-left-wing-activity-on-facebook-research-findings/
[22:12]	TR Bot	 Right Wing and Left Wing Activity on Facebook [Key Findings]
[22:12]	bnchs	they abuse posts to get more "engagement"
[22:12]	bnchs	they show certain posts
[22:12]	schestowitz	https://www.them.us/story/facebook-algorithm-favors-right-wing-pages-trans-issues
[22:12]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: them.us | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.them.us/story/facebook-algorithm-favors-right-wing-pages-trans-issues
[22:12]	TR Bot	 Facebook's Algorithm Massively Favors Right-Wing Pages on Trans Issues | them.
[22:12]	bnchs	that's most likely to get them more "engagement"
[22:12]	schestowitz	https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/facebook-knew-radicalized-users-rcna3581
[22:12]	TR Bot	 What Facebook knew about how it radicalized users
[22:13]	bnchs	facebook is unhealthy
[22:13]	bnchs	so is other social control medias
[22:13]	bnchs	i would say leave them
[22:13]	immibis	schestowitz: they will not fail. Saying "let them fail" is like saying "let rent go down"
[22:13]	schestowitz-TR2	companies fial all the time
[22:13]	schestowitz-TR2	all companies fail eevntuially
[22:13]	XRevan86	bnchs: Regarding "good reasons", I was referencing https://cbsnews.com/news/france-teacher-killed-beheaded-suspect-chechen-teen/
[22:13]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: cbsnews.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://cbsnews.com/news/france-teacher-killed-beheaded-suspect-chechen-teen/
[22:13]	TR Bot	 Suspect in teacher's beheading in France was Chechen teen - CBS News
[22:13]	schestowitz-TR2	sometimes governments are coirrupt enough to try to save them
[22:14]	schestowitz-TR2	like they did a lot of big banks
[22:14]	bnchs	immibis, they will fail
[22:14]	bnchs	if more users join in
[22:14]	schestowitz-TR2	twitter alreay fials
[22:14]	schestowitz-TR2	it makes losses all the time
[22:14]	schestowitz-TR2	except a few quarters in its history
[22:14]	schestowitz-TR2	let's increase the losses
[22:14]	schestowitz-TR2	and shareholders will put the plug
[22:14]	schestowitz-TR2	pull
[22:14]	XRevan86	bnchs: Because I see a good analogy here, as the circumstances of murder here are also conditional.
[22:15]	schestowitz-TR2	same for reddit
[22:15]	schestowitz-TR2	it needs to die
[22:15]	XRevan86	But that doesn't make murder O.K.
[22:15]	bnchs	XRevan86, lol
[22:15]	schestowitz-TR2	it's a scam
[22:15]	bnchs	that kid should have already been in jail
[22:15]	bnchs	muslims are insane
[22:15]	XRevan86	Uh
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[22:16]	immibis	schestowitz-TR2: if the concept is still profitable, there will still be somewhere to upload the bullying videos for likes
[22:16]	bnchs	XRevan86, i cannot legally say
[22:16]	schestowitz-TR2	with few people there
[22:16]	immibis	you boycotting it will not make it unprofitable
[22:16]	immibis	boycotting does not work because only a few people do it
[22:16]	bnchs	but maybe maybe
[22:16]	schestowitz-TR2	so lesser an incentive to start messing around with people in public
[22:16]	immibis	boycotting is for super fucked up things that everyone realizes are super fucked up
[22:16]	schestowitz-TR2	oh year
[22:16]	schestowitz-TR2	look up:
[22:17]	schestowitz-TR2	spotify boycott
[22:17]	bnchs	immibis, but facebook's experiments are super fucked up
[22:17]	schestowitz-TR2	they lost 1.5 MILLION subs in one month
[22:17]	schestowitz-TR2	and their value collapsed
[22:17]	bnchs	boycotts can work
[22:17]	schestowitz-TR2	that's boycott 
[22:17]	schestowitz-TR2	not government action
[22:17]	schestowitz-TR2	we ran boycottnovell
[22:17]	schestowitz-TR2	and it did work
[22:17]	schestowitz-TR2	they died within a few years
[22:17]	bnchs	and no amount of demovitation from you will change
[22:17]	DaemonFC	T-Mobile really isn't a big 5G network.
[22:18]	DaemonFC	Most of the time, my phone says "LTE" on it. Even the new one which is entirely compatible with T-Mobile's current network.
[22:19]	DaemonFC	"Extended Range: A 5G logo without UC indicates that youre connected to low-band 5G, which T-Mobile calls Extended Range. Again, its not much faster than LTE, but coverage is more widespread than mid-band or high-band 5G. If youve seen a 5G logo on your T-Mobile phone and been unimpressed by the data speeds, that might be why."
[22:19]	TR News	:-) Imran Khan works at SUSE now https://www.suse.com/c/truelayer-spearheads-the-open-banking-revolution-with-kubernetes-and-suse-rancher/
[22:19]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: suse.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.suse.com/c/truelayer-spearheads-the-open-banking-revolution-with-kubernetes-and-suse-rancher/
[22:19]	DaemonFC	5G UC pops up sometimes near Walmart.
[22:19]	TR Bot	spearheads the open banking revolution with Kubernetes and SUSE Rancher | SUSE Communities
[22:19]	DaemonFC	But 5G is usually what it says at my house.
[22:20]	DaemonFC	That and our Home Internet Pod are connected to their regular "5G" which is comparable to LTE speeds.
[22:20]	DaemonFC	About the only improvement is range.
[22:20]	TR News	As we shall see tomorrow, the FSF ought to speak out against what Team Mono had done to us all while working for Microsoft directly (before it left, following an arrest and some certain expos) http://techrights.org/2022/03/13/copilot-plagiarism-enabler/
[22:20]	TR Bot	 [Teaser] Microsofts GitHub: Plagiarism Enabler | Techrights
[22:20]	DaemonFC	Which just means they cut down on their cost to run the network because they don't need as many towers.
[22:24]	DaemonFC	https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/13/22975246/ford-ship-sell-incomplete-vehicles-missing-chips
[22:24]	TR Bot	 Ford to ship and sell Explorer SUVs with missing chips - The Verge
[22:27]	DaemonFC	"Like many other companies, Ford has been grappling with the constraints introduced by the chip shortage. After the lack of semiconductors forced Ford to scale back production of its popular F-150 last year (and once again earlier this month), it started giving customers the option to purchase the pickup without automatic start-stop, the feature that turns a vehicles engine off when it comes to a complete stop. Ford gave affected owners 
[22:27]	DaemonFC	a $50 credit in return."
[22:27]	DaemonFC	A $50 credit on a $70,000 truck.
[22:27]	DaemonFC	Well, that's nice.
[22:27]	DaemonFC	The start-stop saves gasoline.
[22:27]	DaemonFC	If you're stuck at a stop light forever, it turns the engine off.
[22:28]	MinceR	allegedly it also shortens the life of the engine
[22:28]	DaemonFC	"while BMW began shipping some cars without touchscreens."
[22:28]	bnchs	gn?
[22:28]	DaemonFC	Oh no, not a car with no TOUCHSCREEN!
[22:28]	MinceR	it's surprising to me that they didn't implement start-stop in the ECU though
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[22:28]	MinceR	an alleged car
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[22:28]	MinceR	but hey, the burnt-out wreckage will look the same anyway
[22:30]	MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/22030340
[22:30]	TR Bot	 IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/vlqtin4e12k81.jpg created on 2022-03-03 11:45:03.622009
[22:36]	kingoffrance	old, i think fubar linked it: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/01/chip-shortage-has-canon-telling-customers-how-to-skirt-its-printer-toner-drm/
[22:36]	TR Bot	 Canon cant get enough toner chips, so its telling customers how to defeat its DRM | Ars Technica
[22:42]	schestowitz	https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/460503801
[22:42]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: propublica.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/460503801
[22:42]	TR Bot	 The Linux Foundation - Nonprofit Explorer - ProPublica
[22:43]	schestowitz	https://apps.irs.gov/app/eos/detailsPage?ein=460503801&name=LINUX%20FOUNDATION&city=&state=&countryAbbr=US&dba=&type=COPYOFRETURNS&orgTags=COPYOFRETURNS
[22:43]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://apps.irs.gov/app/eos/detailsPage?ein=460503801&name=LINUX%20FOUNDATION&city=&state=&countryAbbr=US&dba=&type=COPYOFRETURNS&orgTags=COPYOFRETURNS )
[22:43]	kingoffrance	i wonder what they mean with "open banking" they say 100% open source, and that credit and debit cards were not designed for online
[22:46]	kingoffrance	i mean, what is that going to actually mean for joe average who doesnt know or care what software a bank uses
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[22:47]	kingoffrance	less fees for retailers?
[22:48]	kingoffrance	you can now bank with chrome and nothign else, "open" ?
[22:48]	kingoffrance	its like that metaworld thing ...where does this meet reality lol  1) open banking 2) ....  3) ???
[22:49]	kingoffrance	*1) open banking internal software
[22:51]	kingoffrance	i guess im seeing "it gives banks more power/flexibility/greater reaction time" ...not sure that's a good thing
[22:51]	kingoffrance	not sure where the magical trickle down comes from
[22:52]	kingoffrance	i see their side of it, i dont see where the customer fits in
[22:52]	kingoffrance	we promise to pass the savings on to you
[22:54]	kingoffrance	people have claimed the credit card fees essentially trickled down to the cash people.  so how will that not happen again?
[22:58]	kingoffrance	*greater speed
● Mar 13
[23:02]	schestowitz	Is the English OK here? http://techrights.org/2022/03/13/linux-foundation-irs-filings/
[23:02]	TR Bot	 Its Almost Spring 2022 and Linux Foundations Latest Available IRS Filing is From 2018, Over 90% of the Budget Goes to US | Techrights
[23:08]	TR News	Its Almost Spring 2022 and Linux Foundations Latest Available IRS Filing is From 2018, Over 90% of the Budget Goes to US | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/13/linux-foundation-irs-filings/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/13/linux-foundation-irs-filings/
[23:11]	kingoffrance	maybe    Spring 2022 <comma> and Linux...From 2018 <colon> Over 90%        or better:    Linux Foundation's Latest ... From 2018  (It's Almost Spring 2022!) and Over 90% of the ...     i dont see anything else
[23:14]	MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/22030332
[23:14]	TR Bot	 IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/mu6t048rn5k81.jpg created on 2022-03-03 09:07:06.875817
[23:15]	XRevan86	MinceR: Probably not, but it's possible that something almost as equally stupid would've happened.
[23:16]	XRevan86	But it would take a stable genius to figure out what.
[23:16]	MinceR	it's not that difficult to figure out where former president Twitler's loyalties lie
[23:17]	XRevan86	My guess is a disband of NATO and leaving Putin be.
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[23:23]	XRevan86	But maybe it's not the best idea to ruin good satire with ruthless realism.
[23:25]	XRevan86	Then again, who needs satire with this reality?
[23:25]	kingoffrance	^
[23:30]	psydroid9	 must have thought " "
[23:32]	TR News	How to Kill Linux.com: Put This Guy in Charge | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/13/magnetic-repulsion-by-linux-foundation-opposite-charge/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/13/magnetic-repulsion-by-linux-foundation-opposite-charge/
[23:32]	TR Bot	 How to Kill Linux.com: Put This Guy in Charge | Techrights
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[23:32]	schestowitz-TR2	spazz: spamnil is finally a famous filmmaker
[23:32]	schestowitz-TR2	meant to highlight psydroid9 actaally
[23:32]	tr_guest|85	finally
[23:32]	schestowitz-TR2	yes
[23:35]	tr_guest|85	dpazziba
[23:35]	MinceR	how many views does spamnil have?
[23:35]	tr_guest|85	is this a ridle?
[23:35]	psydroid9	we won't abandon our most prolific spammils either
[23:36]	schestowitz-TR2	tr_guest|85: see link
[23:36]	schestowitz-TR2	http://techrights.org/2022/03/13/magnetic-repulsion-by-linux-foundation-opposite-charge/
[23:36]	psydroid9	spamnil bhartiya
[23:36]	tr_guest|85	How to Kill Linux.com?
[23:37]	tr_guest|85	spamnil nice nick name
[23:37]	psydroid9	bringing spam with an Indian flavour to you
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[23:37]	tr_guest|85	spam/dev/null
[23:38]	tr_guest|85	curry spam yumnm
[23:39]	psydroid9	spamnil didn't make it in the movie industry so now he works in the delusion and fraud industry
[23:39]	tr_guest|85	is it the ms one brother?
[23:39]	tr_guest|85	staillnadya something?
[23:40]	psydroid9	that is satya nutella
[23:40]	tr_guest|85	satil nadia
[23:40]	psydroid9	he can tell you the truth about nutella
[23:40]	immibis	schestowitz-TR2: are you sure novell wasn't dying anyway?
[23:40]	MinceR	but he won't
[23:41]	MinceR	asatya deals in lies
[23:41]	psydroid9	indeed
[23:41]	tr_guest|85	hes doing a number on M$
[23:41]	immibis	schestowitz-TR2: spotify is still doing just fine. It lost a lump sum of revenue but people will start using it again. And that boycott is based on spreading disinfo that kills millions of people - not just a few homeless people being harassed
[23:42]	psydroid9	satya eva jayate, but his name is false
[23:42]	psydroid9	he is a false prophet of the M$ religion
[23:42]	tr_guest|85	immibis so the indian missile system is running windows 11?
[23:43]	psydroid9	satyam eva jayate*
[23:44]	tr_guest|85	im not connectd using ssl
[23:44]	tr_guest|85	kiwwiirc hackers can read my messages?
[23:44]	schestowitz	MinceR:  psydroid9 new, coming soon http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/bill-lolita-gates.png
[23:45]	MinceR	:)
[23:45]	tr_guest|85	you guys are the worst
[23:45]	schestowitz-TR2	I did their logo for them
[23:46]	schestowitz-TR2	free of charge
[23:46]	tr_guest|85	make it a non fungeable
[23:46]	psydroid9	his real name is stalin nutella
[23:46]	schestowitz-TR2	those are a scam
[23:47]	schestowitz-TR2	psydroid9: he is made of palm oil
[23:47]	schestowitz-TR2	and lots of it
[23:47]	tr_guest|85	but hey cant take them aaway from you
[23:47]	schestowitz-TR2	you can copy them
[23:47]	schestowitz-TR2	bits are copyable
[23:47]	tr_guest|85	yes but cant make them desapear
[23:48]	schestowitz-TR2	lol
[23:48]	schestowitz-TR2	you can
[23:48]	schestowitz-TR2	it's the blockchain cargo cult
[23:48]	tr_guest|85	not a NFT
[23:48]	schestowitz-TR2	they keep things in circulation
[23:48]	schestowitz-TR2	like with torrents
[23:48]	tr_guest|85	once in the block chain for ever in the blockchain
[23:51]	schestowitz-TR2	whatever
[23:51]	schestowitz-TR2	we use ipfs
[23:51]	schestowitz-TR2	so in theory it's a lot harder to censor our site and irc logs
[23:51]	schestowitz-TR2	but nft is a scam
[23:52]	schestowitz-TR2	people should not have to pay
[23:52]	tr_guest|85	its for people with too much money to know what to do with it
[23:52]	schestowitz-TR2	exactly
[23:52]	schestowitz-TR2	how about:
[23:53]	schestowitz-TR2	don't try to make so much money
[23:53]	schestowitz-TR2	wealth is NOT an accident
[23:53]	schestowitz-TR2	but the result of certain behaviour and aspirations
[23:54]	tr_guest|85	suckerber cant get ride of all his money even if he wanted to
[23:54]	tr_guest|85	its really out of his hands now
[23:54]	schestowitz-TR2	bad example
[23:54]	schestowitz-TR2	he is still young
[23:54]	schestowitz-TR2	many of those zillionaires will die soon
[23:55]	schestowitz-TR2	the money gave them very little practical benefit
[23:55]	tr_guest|85	soon they will live on as AI machines
[23:55]	XRevan86	Zillionaires in ruble?
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[23:56]	schestowitz-TR2	tr_guest|85: "hey hi"
[23:56]	schestowitz-TR2	metaverse
[23:56]	schestowitz-TR2	"cyber"
[23:56]	schestowitz-TR2	well, I shall be having a life life
[23:56]	schestowitz-TR2	while the worms eat them
[23:57]	XRevan86	psydroid9: In his second election campaign Trump should have used the phrase " " as a slogan.
[23:58]	XRevan86	Or ", "
[23:58]	XRevan86	* ", "
[23:59]	tr_guest|85	hes said that hes friends of putin and he would never atacked ukraine if he was president