●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, February 14, 2022 ●● ● Feb 14 [00:00] schestowitz-TR let's trust meltdown intel [00:01] TR News "vice president of research at the Linux Foundation" https://devops.com/linux-foundation-survey-sees-rise-in-sbom-use/ they mean principal shill. In LF, "research" means #marketing http://techrights.org/2021/09/23/lf-diploma-mill-and-narrative-control-by-fake-research/ [00:01] Alternative link Cloudflare: devops.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://devops.com/linux-foundation-survey-sees-rise-in-sbom-use/ [00:01] TR Bot Foundation Survey Sees Rise in SBOM Use - DevOps.com [00:01] TR Bot Linux Foundation and Other Diploma Mills Say Theres Demand for Their Products in Their New Research (Marketing) | Techrights [00:01] bnchs what produts [00:02] bnchs does linux foundation have any meaningful products [00:02] bnchs rather than it being obfuscated and confusing on what they do [00:02] TR News #linuxfoundation is just a front group, collective indebted to its sponsors. Go check out who sponsors it. I dare you. Also check the Board. [00:03] TR News #linuxfoundation: we support inclusion. Also 'Linux' Foundation: we exclude Arabs. You are all banned. http://techrights.org/2019/07/28/linux-foundation-microsoft-outsourcing/ [00:03] TR Bot People From Half a Dozen Countries May be Banned From Participating in the Linux Foundation Because Its Outsourcing Many Projects to Microsoft/GitHub | Techrights [00:04] TR News #linuxfoundation cares about #linux like I care about #vmware (also: LF is funded, hence partly controlled, by VMware) [00:04] psydroid2 yes, they have USB root hubs [00:04] schestowitz-TR lol [00:04] schestowitz-TR they just put their names in the code [00:05] bnchs ^ [00:05] bnchs they made no contribution, other than putting their names in other people's works [00:05] bnchs like kernel modules [00:05] TR News Jim #Zemlin Has Deleted All of His Tweets Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/06/jim-zemlin-cancels-himself/ #Techrights #Linux #linuxfoundation | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/06/jim-zemlin-cancels-himself/ [00:05] TR Bot Jim Zemlin Has Deleted All of His Tweets | Techrights [00:06] TR News James #zemlin : I AM YOUR GOD!!! Worship ME! http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/What-the-Tech-Industry-Has-Learned-from-Linus-Torvalds_-Jim-Zemlin-at-TEDxConcordia-U-Portland.mp4 [00:06] schestowitz-TR bnchs: yes, exactly [00:07] schestowitz-TR so when i lsusb [00:07] schestowitz-TR i can see LF [00:07] schestowitz-TR but what did they do? [00:07] schestowitz-TR what al gore did for the internet [00:07] schestowitz-TR secured some moneyor a vote [00:07] schestowitz-TR but no actual work [00:07] schestowitz-TR real work [00:07] *immibis (~hexchat@acad4bt9wne9w.irc) has joined #techrights [00:08] *CrystalMath (~coderain@mmfi2if8tm7r4.irc) has joined #techrights [00:08] TR News REMINDER: #linuxfoundation is NOT about Linux! (Also, Federal Express is NOT Federal) http://techrights.org/wiki/Linux_Foundation [00:08] TR Bot Linux Foundation - Techrights [00:08] *MinceR (~mincer@bringer.of.light) has joined #techrights [00:08] *irc.techrights.org gives channel operator status to MinceR [00:09] TR News #Slashdot has just admitted it's an anti- #linux platform (Editor) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161291#comment-32813 [00:09] TR Bot VMware Has Launched Anti-Linux FUD Campaign | Tux Machines [00:10] *XRevan86 (~XRevan86@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #techrights [00:10] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [00:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techrights [00:10] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 18.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 26.76 average k/sec., average swarm size 267.63 [00:11] TR News When Logan took over #slashdot (later #linuxjournal as well, among other "ASSETS") he came to #techrights IRC to assure us things would change for the better. He also asked me to change our wiki page (no, he did not deserve the benefit of the doubt) http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Slashdot [00:11] TR Bot Slashdot - Techrights [00:13] bnchs i looked at the hcd.c (the usb root hub kernel module) in the most earlist commit [00:13] bnchs it didn't have the linux foundation id at all [00:13] bnchs this was from a commit in 2005 [00:13] schestowitz-TR wait until they asanitise it [00:13] schestowitz-TR no "Microsoft bashing| allowed [00:14] schestowitz-TR later they might even change USB drivers to make the language in comments more gender-neutral [00:14] schestowitz-TR and all sorts of other Intel BS [00:14] schestowitz-TR of couirse Intel workers already removed "offensive" words [00:14] schestowitz-TR aadded hugs instead [00:14] schestowitz-TR yes, nothhig offensive about adding physical contact [00:14] schestowitz-TR unwanted p[hysical contact [00:14] schestowitz-TR during pandemic [00:14] schestowitz-TR code full of hugs [00:15] schestowitz-TR I can think of political hacks who use hugs [00:15] schestowitz-TR hugs which I did not ask for [00:15] schestowitz-TR FreeBSD: virtual hugs are CoC violation [00:15] bnchs got the commit that the Linux Foundation id was added [00:15] bnchs https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/drivers/usb/core/hcd.c?id=667d691ed7a70c9a9fde5b6bd663a5f38326e026 [00:15] TR Bot kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree [00:15] schestowitz https://www.theregister.com/2018/02/21/freebsd_code_of_conduct_controversy/ [00:15] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2018/02/21/freebsd_code_of_conduct_controversy/ [00:15] TR Bot Careful with the 'virtual hugs' says new FreeBSD Code of Conduct The Register [00:15] bnchs Turns out that a company is out there using the vendor id of 0x0000 in [00:15] bnchs the wild, so use a real vendor/product id for the root hubs. [00:15] bnchs Now that the Linux Foundation has a real vendor id, we use that, and the [00:15] bnchs first product id [00:16] schestowitz https://www.zdnet.com/article/linux-patch-replaces-f-words-with-hugs-in-kernel-comments-but-some-cry-censorship/ [00:16] TR Bot patch replaces f-words with 'hugs' in kernel comments, but some cry censorship | ZDNet [00:16] schestowitz https://itsfoss.com/swear-words-linux-kernel/ [00:16] Alternative link Cloudflare: itsfoss.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itsfoss.com/swear-words-linux-kernel/ [00:16] TR Bot F-Words in Linux Kernel Code Replaced with "Hug"? [00:16] schestowitz https://www.crunchyroll.com/en-gb/forumtopic-1042620/intel-engineer-releases-patch-to-to-replace-naughty-words-in-linux-kernel-with-hugload-of-hugs [00:16] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.crunchyroll.com/en-gb/forumtopic-1042620/intel-engineer-releases-patch-to-to-replace-naughty-words-in-linux-kernel-with-hugload-of-hugs ) [00:16] Alternative link Cloudflare: crunchyroll.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.crunchyroll.com/en-gb/forumtopic-1042620/intel-engineer-releases-patch-to-to-replace-naughty-words-in-linux-kernel-with-hugload-of-hugs [00:16] bnchs so this guy replaces the vendor id with the Linux Foundation because appparently vendor id 0x000 is already used by another company? [00:17] TR News FreeBSD: DO NOT USE VIRTUAL HUGS!!! https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2018/02/21/freebsd_code_of_conduct_controversy/ Intel: LINUX NEEDS LOTS OF VIRTUAL HUGS: https://itsfoss.com/swear-words-linux-kernel/ [00:17] Alternative link Cloudflare: itsfoss.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itsfoss.com/swear-words-linux-kernel/ [00:17] TR Bot Careful with the 'virtual hugs' says new FreeBSD Code of Conduct The Register [00:18] TR News Large corporations will try to destroy #freesw by killing its CULTURE. Hence, communities (they hope) will "blow up". [00:18] bnchs https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/drivers/usb/core/hcd.c?id=667d691ed7a70c9a9fde5b6bd663a5f38326e026 [00:18] bnchs Linux Foundation had contributed nothing to the USB driver, just as i thought [00:19] bnchs but only got their names in the vendor ID [00:19] TR News #3DPrinting Rainbows | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2022/02/13/3d-printing-rainbows/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/14/#latest [00:19] TR Bot Printing Rainbows | Hackaday [00:19] TR Bot Index of /2022/02/14/ [00:21] schestowitz-TR bnchs: yes [00:21] schestowitz-TR vendor neutrality as a service [00:21] schestowitz-TR same as ASF [00:21] schestowitz-TR you throw dead products at them [00:21] schestowitz-TR and then they pretend it is "community" [00:21] schestowitz-TR or "decentralised" [00:21] schestowitz-TR even when it is not [00:21] schestowitz-TR like intel with zephyr [00:23] TR News #phoronix #benchmarks = product #marketing (no, it's not free; and it was NOT always like that) http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/phoronix-went-too-far/ [00:23] TR Bot When Blogs Become Marketing and Benchmarks Become Product Promotions | Techrights [00:24] TR News I wonder at what point #Wccftech decided to reinvent itself as #phoronix "me-too" and why. Same sponsors? [00:26] TR News #linuxfoundation CANNOT defend #linux from FUD because the perpetrators of the FUD are paying the LF (to keep silent). LF speaking out in defence of Linux would literally be financially damaging to LF. http://techrights.org/wiki/Linux_Foundation [00:26] TR Bot Linux Foundation - Techrights [00:27] TR News Experimenting With A Two Camera Setup (Not Real Content!) - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=sWo1sO4yeCI I already do it with external and internal (laptop) camera; budget of like 15 pounds in terms of #hardware ... LOL [00:27] TR Bot Experimenting With A Two Camera Setup (Not Real Content!) - Invidious [00:28] TR News Mark my words: Epic WILL bring Fortnite to the Steam Deck. Plus other Steam Deck news. - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=v86Bz_EAEZw #video #invidious #gnu #linux [00:28] TR Bot Mark my words: Epic WILL bring Fortnite to the Steam Deck. Plus other Steam Deck news. - Invidious [00:29] TR News "Picking a new #GNU #Linux distro can be fairly time consuming so how about we eliminate the need to choose and let someone or something else do it, this is distrochooser which will do exactly that." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=kIOE5nEn7Kg [00:29] TR Bot Pick Your Next Linux Distro With DistroChooser! - Invidious [00:33] XRevan86 DaemonFC: I don't understand the canon with the Vulcans in Enterprise. [00:34] XRevan86 DaemonFC: The way they're presented is as is Romulans are not a thing. [00:34] TR News When your regime (Trump, Biden) gives 8,000 billion dollars (8 trillion) in 2 years to large corporations (and a little bit for people in actual need) you devalue your currency https://patch.com/ohio/cleveland/inflation-rate-higher-national-average-tremont-shooting see http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/ [00:34] Alternative link Cloudflare: patch.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://patch.com/ohio/cleveland/inflation-rate-higher-national-average-tremont-shooting [00:34] TR Bot Inflation Rate Higher Than National Average + Tremont Shooting | Cleveland, OH Patch [00:34] TR Bot The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers Expense | Techrights [00:34] DaemonFC DaemonFC: The way they're presented is as is Romulans are not a thing. [00:34] buzzert was it before the romulan-vulkan schism? [00:35] DaemonFC United Earth Starfleet doesn't know what the Romulan Star Empire is and the Vulcans have not told them. [00:35] TR News Ricardo Garcia: My #FOSDEM 2022 talk: Fun with border colors in #Vulkan https://rg3.name/202202122125.html #freesw #graphics [00:35] TR Bot Geek Blight - My FOSDEM 2022 talk: Fun with border colors in Vulkan [00:35] Alternative link Cloudflare: rg3.name | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://rg3.name/202202122125.html [00:35] DaemonFC In one episode with Daniels in the 29th century, Captain Archer starts reading something and says "Romulan Star Empire?" and he mispronounces Romulan. [00:36] XRevan86 DaemonFC: Oh yea, I forgot he did that. [00:36] DaemonFC Then Daniels pulls it away and says "It's probably best you don't read too much while you're here.". [00:36] XRevan86 buzzert: Naturally. [00:37] DaemonFC He tells Archer about the Federation though. [00:37] XRevan86 DaemonFC: I asked this question while watching an episode with the first Romulan appearance in the series :D [00:37] XRevan86 Just read a spoiler for it. [00:37] DaemonFC It's probably because the Federation will happen in a few years whether Archer knows or not, so it's safe to tell him. [00:38] MinceR hero of the federation [00:38] DaemonFC Or because Daniels is causing a predestination paradox because he knows the Federation will happen because he came back in time and told Archer about it. [00:38] XRevan86 DaemonFC: Daniels wouldn't really care about predestination though. [00:39] MinceR http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/jizz_fashion.jpg ( https://www.engrish.com/2019/08/whats-this-in-these-pants/ ) [00:39] XRevan86 Besides, these things would happened or not regardless of what ideas one person has. [00:39] TR Bot Whats this in these pants? [00:39] DaemonFC Like Skynet probably knew the T-800 would fail to kill Sarah Conner but that it had already lost the war and by sending it back, the components would be found and cause a different iteration of itself, and possibly a timeline where it could win. [00:39] MinceR Sarah Conner, the hard drive manufacturer [00:39] DaemonFC Daniels has the ability to monitor potential changes to the timeline, but only so many. [00:40] DaemonFC Presumably, there'd be no point in a Temporal Cold War if everyone participating in it was sure of the outcome. [00:41] DaemonFC Predestination paradoxes would be important to you if your existence in the timeline depended on it. [00:42] DaemonFC "Terminator" time travel rules always have the future and the past in flux. [00:42] DaemonFC The future ends up being the cause, and the past being the effect. [00:43] DaemonFC It makes sense because once you have time travel capability, time and cause and effect essentially flow in both directions now. [00:43] DaemonFC There's no telling how many dead timelines Skynet would have made trying to save itself, before accidentally wiping out all possibility of its own existence, leading to Legion instead. [00:44] DaemonFC All we see are the ones in the movies. [00:44] DaemonFC And any movie can wipe out the timeline of any of the rest, but still exist only because of it. [00:44] schestowitz-TR MinceR: oooof [00:45] schestowitz-TR bill clinton: I did not have sex with that woman [00:45] schestowitz-TR (was she a kid?) [00:45] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [00:45] DaemonFC In Salvation, it was a direct sequel to Terminator 3. Skynet happened pretty late (2004) and as such, it wasn't quite as advanced as it was in the original timeline, where it happened in the mid 1990s. [00:46] DaemonFC The T-600 model appears in Salvation and in TSCC, but the models are very different. [00:47] DaemonFC In Salvation, it's basically a big humanoid robot with gattling guns. You'd never mistake it for a person though. In TSCC, the T-600 has rubbery synthetic skin and is otherwise roughly human-sized. At night or behind a bunch of smoke, or from a distance, it could fool humans. [00:47] TR News #easyOPS latest: Changes needed to fix JWMDesk http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161393#comment-32815 [00:47] TR Bot EasyOS version 3.4 released | Tux Machines [00:47] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:48] TR News "These are some answers to the Week 151 of the #Perl Weekly Challenge organized by Mohammad S. Anwar." http://blogs.perl.org/users/laurent_r/2022/02/perl-weekly-challenge-151-binary-tree-depth.html #programming [00:48] TR Bot Weekly Challenge 151: Binary tree Depth | laurent_r [blogs.perl.org] [00:49] TR News close [00:49] TR News close [00:50] TR News FSS, not #github http://seifesrants.blogspot.com/2022/02/make-hibernation-great-again.html #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware is NOT a legitimate platform for #freesw http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github [00:50] TR Bot seife's assorted rants: Make Hibernation Great Again! [00:50] TR Bot Delete Github - Techrights [00:50] XRevan86 I really disliked T'Pol's actress' acting in Season 1, she grew on me. [00:52] TR News "I wrote that Ill be working on extending the Ellipse Assistant Tool to add support for Perspective Ellipse in Krita." #kde #sok #krita http://srirupa19.github.io/sok/2022/02/13/second_post.html #programming #deletegithub [00:52] TR Bot Second Blog Post for SoK 2022 | Srirupas Blog [00:53] TR News Slackware Cloud Server Series Episode 5: Collaborative Document Editing | Alien Pastures https://alien.slackbook.org/blog/slackware-cloud-server-series-episode-5-collaborative-document-editing/ #gnu #linux #nextcloud #freesw #slackware [00:53] TR Bot Slackware Cloud Server Series Episode 5: Collaborative Document Editing | Alien Pastures [00:53] TR News #MariaDB 10.7 Database Server Released with New Capabilities Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161423 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:53] TR Bot MariaDB 10.7 Database Server Released with New Capabilities | Tux Machines [00:54] TR News #LiveRaizo v13.22.02.13i released! Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161424 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:54] TR Bot LiveRaizo v13.22.02.13i released! | Tux Machines [00:54] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161425 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:54] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [00:55] TR News Introducing #RPM Spec Wizard Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161426 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:55] TR Bot Introducing RPM Spec Wizard | Tux Machines [00:55] TR News Audiocasts/Shows and Videos: DistroChooser, Games, and Full Circle Weekly Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161427 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:55] TR Bot Audiocasts/Shows and Videos: DistroChooser, Games, and Full Circle Weekly | Tux Machines [00:57] TR News "Dont worry about the March 1st timeline - even if our preparations are not done by then, everything will be fine. Please refrain from spamming Lukas, me, or anyone else. That doesnt make things go any faster. Make yourself a hot chocolate or something and relax." #joindiaspora @glynmoody https://joindiaspora.com/posts/22282896 [00:57] TR Bot # Hello JoinDiaspora there is some unfortunate news to share. Feneas will be dissolved and as Joindiaspora is one of the services. JD will also be shut down on 1 March. This is unless we can find someone who wants to take over the service. If you think you can handle the task please contact us via [hq@feneas.org](mailto:hq@feneas.org). You can find the original post below or via https://git.fene ... [00:57] TR Bot git.feneas.org | meetings/agm-minutes-2021-12-09.txt master Feneas / association GitLab [00:57] TR Bot git.feneas.org | meetings/agm-minutes-2022-01-04.txt master Feneas / association GitLab [00:58] TR Bot git.feneas.org | Feneas GitLab [00:58] DaemonFC I really disliked T'Pol's actress' acting in Season 1, she grew on me. [00:59] DaemonFC Yeah, she eventually gets Vulcan AIDS and has to deal with being shunned. [00:59] DaemonFC Which you'd think the Vulcans would be long past. [00:59] DaemonFC Then a drug addiction. ● Feb 14 [01:00] XRevan86 DaemonFC: The Vulcans in this series don't look reasonable/logical at all. [01:00] TR News Josh Bressers: Episode 310 Hayley Tsukayama from the EFF talks about privacy http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161427#comment-32817 [01:00] TR Bot Audiocasts/Shows and Videos: DistroChooser, Games, and Full Circle Weekly | Tux Machines [01:00] DaemonFC They act more like Romulans than Vulcans. [01:00] DaemonFC They're rude, suspicious, arrogant..... [01:01] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: I made a mention of AIDS/HIV patents today [01:01] schestowitz-TR in the video being uploaded at the moment [01:01] schestowitz-TR I think you know that area a lot better than me because you did a lot more reading [01:01] DaemonFC They're also quite dishonorable and warlike. They're in a conflict with the Andorians, and they pretend a listening outpost is a quite temple for Vulcan monks. [01:01] schestowitz-TR and you know the companies that carved out patent territories [01:02] DaemonFC And I know a lot of people who have been affected by it. [01:02] schestowitz-TR that too [01:02] schestowitz-TR btw [01:02] schestowitz-TR re rogan "experience" [01:02] DaemonFC It's not as much of an issue today because people should know how it spreads and that medication compliant patients are hardly a threat anyway. [01:02] schestowitz-TR the rogan foes use HIV against Neil Young [01:02] DaemonFC But there's still "those people" out there. [01:02] schestowitz-TR something about him blaming it on gays or something decades ago [01:03] schestowitz-TR I assume it's a tit-for-tat for the "Rogan said N word" thing [01:03] DaemonFC Probably. Rogan acting like Putin. [01:03] schestowitz-TR I never watched his show [01:03] schestowitz-TR barely even a portion of it [01:03] DaemonFC Well, 200 years ago there were slaves in America so what Russia is doing today isn't so bad really. [01:03] schestowitz-TR what's all the hype about? [01:04] schestowitz-TR US political discourse is a lot sicker than ours [01:04] schestowitz-TR Russia is scary to me culturally [01:04] schestowitz-TR people getting very combative very fast [01:05] XRevan86 Huh? [01:05] schestowitz-TR yeah,. what you heard [01:05] schestowitz-TR there's the reputation for it [01:06] schestowitz-TR don't upset a Russian, to generalise a little [01:06] schestowitz-TR so goes the stigma [01:06] schestowitz-TR wh [01:06] XRevan86 schestowitz: En garde! [01:06] schestowitz-TR which I cannot easily dispute as outright skanderous [01:09] XRevan86 schestowitz: Ironically I have a relative that was beaten up by a British, but none beaten up by Russians. [01:10] XRevan86 s/a (British)/the \1/ [01:10] schestowitz-TR interesting, I didn't say we were a lot better [01:10] schestowitz-TR nor US [01:10] schestowitz-TR gentler cultures exist [01:10] schestowitz-TR but those with big egos are easily irritated and temper turns to action [01:11] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:11] XRevan86 schestowitz: The stories about temper that are relatable to my region are Scandinavian. [01:11] TR News #9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: February 13th, 2022 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161428 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:11] TR Bot 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: February 13th, 2022 | Tux Machines [01:11] XRevan86 So not exactly hot heads. [01:11] schestowitz-TR I know [01:12] schestowitz-TR you are in one of the "good parts" [01:12] schestowitz-TR not far from the Baltic sea [01:12] XRevan86 But one's kilometrage may vary. It's a big country. [01:12] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: used to be bigger lol [01:12] XRevan86 So did the UK :) [01:13] schestowitz-TR a LOT bigger [01:13] schestowitz-TR like 10 times bigger [01:13] schestowitz-TR natives fell for the flowers we fished at their feet ;-) [01:13] schestowitz-TR *dished [01:14] schestowitz-TR but things are weird [01:14] schestowitz-TR see Iraq [01:14] schestowitz-TR and how that turned out [01:14] schestowitz-TR my great uncle fought to the britsih Army [01:14] schestowitz-TR his father... the German Army [01:16] schestowitz MariaDB 10.7 is out [01:16] XRevan86 schestowitz: A few days ago. [01:16] schestowitz-TR yeah, barely mentioned anywhere [01:16] schestowitz-TR I only saw it today [01:17] XRevan86 schestowitz: One of my great-grandfathers fought in the army, and grandmother lived through the blockade. [01:18] XRevan86 Here everyone knows which blockade. [01:20] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [01:21] schestowitz-TR what to search for in "wiki"? [01:24] XRevan86 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Leningrad [01:24] TR Bot Siege of Leningrad - Wikipedia [01:25] TR News Links 14/2/2022: #MariaDB 10.7, KDE Frameworks 5.91.0, and Linux 5.17 RC4 Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/13/linux-5-17-rc4/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/13/linux-5-17-rc4/ [01:25] TR Bot Links 14/2/2022: MariaDB 10.7, KDE Frameworks 5.91.0, and Linux 5.17 RC4 | Techrights [01:25] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161429 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:25] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [01:26] *schestowitz-TR reading [01:27] schestowitz-TR I read about ir years ago [01:27] schestowitz-TR but this says a lot more [01:27] schestowitz-TR it was a very critical battle [01:28] schestowitz-TR didn't know Finland had been coopted by Hitler to do this [01:30] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@7hnksqkvhrvj2.irc) has joined #techrights [01:30] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techrights [01:30] XRevan86 It was a siege that took years, millions died. [01:31] schestowitz-TR more than UK+US lost in the whole war [01:31] schestowitz-TR inc. on the pacific front (Japan) [01:31] schestowitz-TR but hollywood focuses on dday and pearl harbour [01:32] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Leningrad#/media/File:Two_little_girls_assemble_submachine_guns_during_the_siege_of_Leningrad,_1943._(46089025944).jpg [01:32] TR Bot Siege of Leningrad - Wikipedia [01:33] schestowitz "December: Winston Churchill wrote in his diary "Leningrad is encircled, but not taken."" [01:34] schestowitz "Historian Michael Walzer summarized that "The Siege of Leningrad killed more civilians than bombing of Hamburg, Dresden, Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined."" [01:35] schestowitz "Almost all Finnish historians regard the siege as a German operation and do not consider that the Finns effectively participated in the siege. Russian historian Nikolai Baryshnikov argues that active Finnish participation did occur, but other historians have been mostly silent about it, most likely due to the friendly nature of post-war SovietFinnish relations" [01:37] XRevan86 That explains things, because Finnish participation is not widely known. [01:37] schestowitz the way I understand it, from high school edu, this is where nazi germany perished [01:37] schestowitz not dday [01:37] schestowitz but these prolonged battles in the easy [01:38] schestowitz with russians taking much of the brunt [01:38] schestowitz and highest death toll [01:38] schestowitz some days ago in techrights I alluded to Russia winning the war [01:38] schestowitz as I still regard them as the victors [01:38] schestowitz the west claims false victory [01:38] schestowitz over time hollywood reinforced this false perception [01:38] XRevan86 I'm not a historian, I'm not going to agree or disagree with any assessment. [01:39] schestowitz though back in the 40s and 50s it was common knowledge that it was the Soviets who had defeated the nazis [01:39] XRevan86 By the death toll USSR is ahead of everyone by a huge margin. [01:39] schestowitz with the wastern front joining later and claiming a landslide victory when fiercest battles were in the eastern front [01:40] schestowitz let me find something... [01:40] schestowitz https://www.vox.com/2014/6/16/5814270/the-successful-70-year-campaign-to-convince-people-the-usa-and-not [01:40] TR Bot successful 70-year campaign to convince people the USA and not the USSR beat Hitler - Vox [01:40] schestowitz image: https://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/imported_assets/2246159/sondage-nation-contribue-defaite-nazis_medium.jpg [01:41] schestowitz by 2022 it is probably worse [01:41] schestowitz blame hollywood [01:41] XRevan86 It's hard to imagine a victory over Nazi Germany without the eastern front, without the US it's somehow easier. [01:41] schestowitz so people who LIVED through the war had a consensus [01:41] schestowitz USSR had won [01:42] schestowitz 57% USSR [01:42] schestowitz USA 20% [01:42] schestowitz 2004 opposite [01:42] schestowitz USSA [sic.] 58% [01:42] schestowitz USSR 20% [01:42] schestowitz so a lot of people were fooled [01:43] schestowitz and to many people the only victims of the war were in the camps [01:43] schestowitz not the trenches etc. [01:43] schestowitz meanwhile china was killing many of its own people [01:43] XRevan86 schestowitz: The US defines the narrative, that is factual. [01:44] schestowitz-TR it's good that US protects its "next-door neighbour" ukraine [01:45] schestowitz-TR maybe next year USSR will send troops to mexico [01:45] XRevan86 schestowitz: The Leningrad population was dying en masse neither in camps nor in trenches. [01:45] schestowitz-TR yeah [01:45] schestowitz-TR and suffered just about as much [01:45] schestowitz-TR anyway, USSA, Inc. might try to start another war soon [01:45] schestowitz-TR to kill its poorest [01:46] schestowitz-TR before they can stage another coup [01:46] schestowitz-TR now they test the water [01:46] schestowitz-TR Iran.. Russia... China [01:46] schestowitz-TR it starts by inciting the population, using the media... [01:47] XRevan86 schestowitz: Only Russia can take the initiative to start a war here. [01:47] XRevan86 Another coup? [01:47] schestowitz-TR Russia has its own problems, toio [01:47] schestowitz-TR the typical tactis is [01:48] schestowitz-TR make false dichotomies [01:48] schestowitz-TR "us" OR "them" [01:48] schestowitz-TR and it's never about class [01:48] schestowitz-TR but nations etc. [01:49] XRevan86 Anyway, this week will be pretty scary. [01:49] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Leningrad#/media/File:RIAN_archive_58228_Leningrad_Front_Soldiers_Before_Offensive.jpg [01:49] TR Bot Siege of Leningrad - Wikipedia [01:49] schestowitz XRevan86: this upcoming monday-friday? [01:49] schestowitz what happens next? [01:49] schestowitz [09:02] NEWS #CommonDreams #Russia Official Denounces 'Peak Hysteria' Following Putin-Biden Call Over #Ukraine https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/02/12/russian-official-denounces-peak-hysteria-following-putin-biden-call-over-ukraine [01:49] Alternative link Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/02/12/russian-official-denounces-peak-hysteria-following-putin-biden-call-over-ukraine [01:49] TR Bot Russian Official Denounces 'Peak Hysteria' Following Putin-Biden Call Over Ukraine [01:50] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.00 k/sec., IPFS upstream 16.86 average k/sec., average swarm size 267.69 [01:50] XRevan86 schestowitz: The Western intelligence predicts Russian invasion this week. [01:50] schestowitz-TR well, they predicted other BS too [01:50] schestowitz-TR and bloomberg already wrote an article about it [01:50] XRevan86 They're probably full of crap, but one cannot be fully certain. [01:51] schestowitz "We prepare headlines for many scenarios and the headline Russia Invades Ukraine was inadvertently published around 4 p.m. ET today on our website. We deeply regret the error. The headline has been removed and we are investigating the cause." [01:51] schestowitz https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-02-04/statement-on-publishing-error [01:51] TR Bot - Are you a robot? [01:51] XRevan86 Bloomberg accidentally published a draught and everyone's lost their minds (: [01:51] schestowitz iirc, they did jobs also [01:51] schestowitz not sure if was them.. [01:52] schestowitz it was! https://www.computerworld.com/article/2532689/steve-jobs--death-greatly-exaggerated--bloomberg-obit-a-mistake.html [01:52] TR Bot Jobs' death greatly exaggerated; Bloomberg obit a mistake | Computerworld [01:52] GNUmoon2 https://wallstreetonparade.com/2022/02/bloomberg-news-ran-a-false-headline-russia-invades-ukraine-for-24-minutes-on-friday-heres-the-untold-story/ [01:52] TR Bot Bloomberg News Ran a False Headline, Russia Invades Ukraine, for 24 Minutes on Friday. Heres the Untold Story. [01:52] schestowitz gee, can't wait for a job at Mike Bloomberg PAC [01:52] schestowitz I get to write fictional story [01:52] schestowitz about the death of living people [01:52] schestowitz and invasion of nations which never happened [01:52] schestowitz fiction writing [01:52] schestowitz "France invades UK" [01:53] schestowitz "sorry, no... just in case this happens..." [01:53] XRevan86 Always fun when draughts get leaked. Especially when it's obituaries. [01:53] schestowitz "nothing to see here, move along... preparations for "exclusive"..." [01:54] XRevan86 schestowitz: The most detailed thing I know about Bloomberg is their work with Navalny, I respect their work there. [01:54] schestowitz first job for 'Mike' Bloomberg: write a story abut RMS dying from a heart attack during a talk [01:54] schestowitz write a story about a young girl saying Bill Gates had molested her on a plane of Epstein [01:54] schestowitz Write a story about Putin's daughter being the victim of incest [01:54] schestowitz you know.. [01:55] schestowitz just in case [01:56] *alextee has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:57] XRevan86 Tactical training on the border with Ukraine is definitely not ominous. [01:58] schestowitz https://www.maketecheasier.com/latest-windows-10-update-problems/ [01:58] TR Bot Latest Windows 10 Update Problems and How to Fix Them - Make Tech Easier [01:58] schestowitz they still have BLUE screen? [01:58] schestowitz XRevan86: muscle-flexing [01:58] schestowitz Putin showing who's boss [01:58] XRevan86 Why change the colour? [01:59] schestowitz-TR btw [01:59] schestowitz-TR in case of war between ru and us [01:59] XRevan86 schestowitz: Most probably. [01:59] schestowitz-TR assuming china stays neutral [01:59] schestowitz-TR which is likelyt [01:59] schestowitz-TR they would emerge as biggest winner [01:59] schestowitz-TR nato and ru would nuke each other ● Feb 14 [02:00] schestowitz-TR china will remain the sole superpower [02:00] XRevan86 schestowitz: NATO can squash Russia like a bug. [02:00] schestowitz-TR usa and ru, maybe eu also, will have many dresdens [02:00] schestowitz-TR or hiroshimas [02:01] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: at what cost? [02:01] schestowitz-TR thoiusands of nukes on eu and us? [02:01] schestowitz-TR nukes have changed the rules of the game [02:01] schestowitz-TR and h-bombs [02:01] MinceR no one cares about that [02:01] XRevan86 schestowitz: I didn't mean warfare. [02:02] MinceR especially not the "leaders" who control them and believe that if they die, they go to heaven, while if their enemies die, they go to hell [02:02] schestowitz-TR also, manchester is probably on the "hot list" for one of the h-bomb [02:02] MinceR also especially not the "leaders" who believe their own propaganda [02:02] XRevan86 schestowitz: Russia wouldn't survive a day under full economic blockade. [02:02] schestowitz-TR and I am near the centrle ^_^ [02:03] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: today's wars won't last a day [02:03] schestowitz-TR but ns carl sagan put it [02:03] XRevan86 So the moment it's economically viable for the EU to cut ties with Russia, it's the moment when it collapses. [02:03] schestowitz-TR one afternoon [02:03] schestowitz-TR for some ballistic missiles it takes like an hour to travel tot he target [02:03] MinceR 14 030239 < XRevan86> schestowitz: Russia wouldn't survive a day under full economic blockade. [02:03] MinceR how? [02:04] MinceR don't they have stockpiles of food that would last longer than a day? [02:04] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [02:04] XRevan86 MinceR: To understand how one needs to look at the power structure of the country. [02:04] DaemonFC I found some steaks in my freezer that I put there in 2020. :/ Still made for a decent broccoli beef though. [02:04] schestowitz-TR freezer us OK [02:05] schestowitz-TR it's not economic thought to store things there for this long [02:05] DaemonFC Yeah, they were just starting to get a little freezer burned. [02:05] XRevan86 MinceR: The people that control the country live and invest abroad. [02:05] DaemonFC So I just made something that required a lot of sauce to make up for the moisture loss and maybe slightly degraded taste. [02:06] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Well, I wasn't careful and it slipped to the back. [02:06] XRevan86 Am I to expect that they'll sacrifice everything for the greater bad? [02:06] DaemonFC The fridge is running even if there's nothing in it. [02:06] DaemonFC It uses more electricity if it's mostly empty than mostly full. [02:06] DaemonFC Technically, it's more economical on power to keep the freezer near capacity. [02:06] MinceR XRevan86: i don't know what crazy people will sacrifice for what [02:07] TR News " #Intel has revealed it plans to have its mysterious plans for software-defined silicon delivered in the next version of the Linux kernel." https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/14/intel_sdsi_linux_5_18/ Intel hates Linux (but cannot ignore it totally): http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks [02:07] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/14/intel_sdsi_linux_5_18/ [02:07] TR Bot Intel's software-defined silicon set to debut in Linux 5.18 The Register [02:07] TR Bot Intel leaks - Techrights [02:07] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I was making fun of unions and Starbucks on LateStageCapitalism earlier. [02:08] XRevan86 MinceR: What Russia wants is influence over the region. But not at all costs. [02:08] DaemonFC $7.50 for an Earl Grey latte. [02:08] TR News Brent's Betrayal | #LINUXUnplugged 445 https://feed.jupiter.zone/allshows#entry-8009 [02:08] DaemonFC You can make a 16 ounce Earl Grey latte at home for approximately 55 cents or so. [02:09] DaemonFC Two teabags, a little steamed/foamed milk, four pumps vanilla syrup, and some sugar or whatever your preferred sweetener is. [02:10] DaemonFC I assume 55 cents based on oat milk, which is a bit more than regular milk. [02:10] DaemonFC So 50-55 cents. In other words, you could make about 15 of these things at home before you spent as much as one costs at Starbucks, post-tax. [02:10] DaemonFC Teas are even more scandalous on the margin than coffee is. [02:11] XRevan86 MinceR: If Russia thinks it can get away with something without an economical equivalent of a nuke used against it, it might do it. [02:11] DaemonFC Because teas are cheaper input than coffee is. [02:11] XRevan86 MinceR: That's the "window of opportunity" that keeps me up at night. [02:12] DaemonFC But you're also talking about store costs, utilities, the guy making $20 an hour in compensation that thinks a union taking $30 a month will do something for him. [02:12] *alextee (~alextee@856vqqmhg8d98.irc) has joined #techrights [02:13] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: what people would do to 'signal' their PERCEIVED class [02:13] schestowitz-TR I saw people who leave food on their plate [02:13] schestowitz-TR or won't finish their drink [02:13] XRevan86 So it's not going to be about all-out war with NATO, but it is a question of whether there would be retaliation. [02:13] schestowitz-TR to me: food waste. "BASTARD!' [02:13] schestowitz-TR To them: look at me, I have so much money to spare [02:13] schestowitz-TR starving africa kid: WTF?? [02:13] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I'm capable of putting a frozen breakfast sandwich in the air fryer and making a cup of coffee. [02:13] DaemonFC It's basically the same thing really. [02:14] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: russia is quite self-sufficient [02:14] schestowitz-TR and that makes it harder to sanction for real response [02:14] schestowitz-TR unlike with iran [02:15] schestowitz-TR suffocating iran has been a lot easier [02:15] schestowitz-TR but then iran turned to russia and china [02:15] schestowitz-TR then trumpland started kidnapping chinese people [02:15] schestowitz-TR in canada! [02:15] XRevan86 schestowitz: Russia is not self-sufficient. [02:15] DaemonFC When people say "You're broke, but you're going to Starbucks?" it doesn't literally mean stop going there and you'll be rich. [02:15] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: relatively speaking [02:15] MinceR maybe putler's expectation is that slowly the NATO will yield everything to him [02:16] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: you cannot afford ip[hone, but you pay in INSTALLMENTS [02:16] DaemonFC What it does do is act as a shorthand for "You're probably doing 50 things every day that all waste some money. Quit doing that!". [02:16] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: like the young girl who pays a $2000 handbag hoping to find some famous sports person [02:16] XRevan86 schestowitz: Again, the thing is that the Russian elite doesn't really do Russia. [02:16] schestowitz-TR or some businessman who can actually afford that handbag [02:16] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Mandy was deflated when I swapped the battery on his current iPhone SE for $50 instead of buying him a new iPhone. [02:16] schestowitz-TR usually it doesn't work out like that at the end [02:17] DaemonFC I told him "There's going to be two new models out before this one doesn't work anymore.". [02:17] schestowitz-TR but the 'insecurity industry' (so-called fahion so-called industry) tkes advanctage of it [02:17] DaemonFC "Why do you want to blow the wad buying the exact same thing you have now?". [02:17] DaemonFC It's an example of dumb behavior with money. [02:17] XRevan86 DaemonFC: Is it true that the Usonians cannot live without iMessage? [02:18] schestowitz-TR yeah [02:18] schestowitz-TR esp. with people never poroperly edcuicated about it [02:18] DaemonFC He looks Asian, but I swear he must be my cousin's long lost brother from another mother. :P [02:18] schestowitz-TR thinking money grows on trees or comes from "credit" card [02:18] schestowitz-TR like magic [02:18] DaemonFC She's getting sued for putting Starbucks every day on a Credit One bank card and then notpaying the card. [02:19] DaemonFC Who knew that some day three years later, they sue you and introduce that into public court records? [02:19] schestowitz-TR lattesoft [02:19] schestowitz-TR you know the starbucks-gatesd connection, right? [02:19] schestowitz-TR very closely connected [02:19] schestowitz-TR *gates [02:19] schestowitz-TR it's like coffeesoft [02:19] schestowitz-TR overselling crap to people [02:19] schestowitz-TR and dominating the supply [02:19] schestowitz-TR except people who go there often bring mac [02:19] schestowitz-TR it's about branding [02:20] schestowitz-TR with microsoft it's abouyt streong-arming OEMs [02:20] XRevan86 schestowitz: Even dictators don't actually have absolute power, they have their power granted to them by powerful people. [02:20] schestowitz-TR and kept poiwer as long as those people consented [02:20] schestowitz-TR that's why Trump got 'replaced' [02:20] XRevan86 And the implication is that even an absolute monarch can't go against the interests of the "elite". [02:20] schestowitz-TR he lost the support from the rich fascist class [02:20] schestowitz-TR fell out of grace [02:21] schestowitz-TR same in EPO BTW [02:21] schestowitz-TR that's why Battiostelli was removed [02:21] XRevan86 And the interests of the Russian "elite" are in the UK, in Italy, in Germany [02:21] schestowitz-TR and we're meant to their their new front man is some king man from portugal [02:21] schestowitz-TR a fraud [02:21] XRevan86 Sometimes even in Greece. [02:21] schestowitz-TR Cyprus [02:21] schestowitz-TR Malta [02:21] MinceR i thought vladolf had the means to control every member of that alleged elite [02:21] schestowitz-TR where the sun shines [02:22] schestowitz-TR I also met Russians in Turkey [02:22] MinceR :> [02:22] schestowitz-TR "RUSHAN!!!! THEY EVERYWHERE!!!!!!" [02:23] XRevan86 MinceR: How much control would he have after attempting to take everything from them? Including their children. [02:23] DaemonFC DaemonFC: Is it true that the Usonians cannot live without iMessage? [02:23] DaemonFC SMS works okay. [02:23] schestowitz-TR while it still works ;-) [02:23] schestowitz-TR kids now do not know how to type with 1=abc [02:24] DaemonFC I wouldn't switch to an iPhone just so they can send me more emojis and I can be a blue bubble on their phone instead of a green one. [02:24] schestowitz-TR 2=dfe [02:24] schestowitz-TR that used to be a "skill" [02:24] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:24] schestowitz-TR typing on a dumb keyboard where one finger does like 2-3 times as many keystrokes as there are letters! [02:24] DaemonFC you know the starbucks-gatesd connection, right? [02:24] DaemonFC All kinds of people sue my cousins, but the court computer shows they don't tend to collect. [02:24] XRevan86 MinceR: Also from all of them at once. [02:25] MinceR XRevan86: dunno [02:25] MinceR XRevan86: i also don't know if they're fundie christians too [02:25] MinceR "don't worry, you and your family are all going to heaven!" [02:25] TR News Review: S#lackware Linux 15.0 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161430 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [02:25] TR Bot Review: Slackware Linux 15.0 | Tux Machines [02:26] DaemonFC One of them is on her way to bankruptcy court for the third time. [02:26] XRevan86 MinceR: They're decadent as heck, so what do ye think? [02:26] DaemonFC It's always Starbucks and trips to Florida, and oh yeah I got a storage unit for a bunch of crap and then didn't pay rent on it. [02:26] TR News #SimonSharwood has turned it into prose/clickbait http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161421#comment-32820 #linux #kernel [02:26] TR Bot Linux 5.17-rc4 | Tux Machines [02:27] schestowitz-TR Starbucks: we let you pay for our ambiance [02:27] DaemonFC For the most part, bankruptcy law really does let idiots get out of responsibility for anything. [02:27] schestowitz-TR with cheap, cheesy furniture [02:27] schestowitz-TR and 'free' wi-fi [02:27] schestowitz-TR that spies on you [02:27] schestowitz-TR for 'free' [02:27] DaemonFC But banks are okay with it because few do it and the idea that it's out there encourages people to borrow too much, and then most of them keep paying long after they shouldn't. [02:28] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Starbucks is classy. [02:28] schestowitz " [02:28] schestowitz Hello schestowitz, [02:28] schestowitz Codeberg is now more than three years online - an exciting time for all of us. Thank you for being with us in this journey. [02:28] schestowitz In these three years, we saw a lot of awesome content, but also some awful things we'd rather not have on our platform. [02:28] schestowitz To facilitate the work of our volunteer moderators, avoid ambiguous cases and be clearer to end users, we are now updating our Terms of Use. [02:28] DaemonFC So classy that the ghetto malls all have them. [02:28] schestowitz " [02:28] schestowitz I have a friend who used to drag me there [02:28] *alextee has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:28] schestowitz he's very class-conscious [02:28] schestowitz unlike rianne and I [02:28] schestowitz and he's the sort of people who does not finish the drink of clear the plate [02:29] schestowitz like that's going to leave a positive impression on someone [02:29] schestowitz I told him I'd rather go to a dining place which supports the locals [02:29] DaemonFC Yeah, if I have two pair of pants that fit and a week's worth of t-shirts, I'm good. [02:29] schestowitz so no more GatesBucks [02:29] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:29] DaemonFC I don't know how anyone thinks an accumulation of crap is going to do them any good. [02:30] schestowitz > Roy : and and for Santa Battistelli! [02:30] kingoffrance "don't worry, you and your family are all going to heaven!" you'll never fully appreciate the idiocy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Year#/media/File:North_pole_path.png dont worry, you are all going back 4000 years to "lamb of god", with "7 heavens" this means 7th or 14th layer of hell lol [02:30] TR Bot Great Year - Wikipedia [02:30] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techrights [02:31] schestowitz > Here an automated translation of the French document, provided by Deepl. I must admit DeepL translation are impressive. [02:31] schestowitz Thanks,. I am going to add that to the post. [02:32] DaemonFC and he's the sort of people who does not finish the drink of clear the plate [02:32] kingoffrance the bible never bothered with aquarius, but that never stops anyone [02:32] DaemonFC I can make sandwiches and coffee easily. [02:32] DaemonFC Mandy is fine with sandwiches for dinner as long as they're hot sandwiches. [02:32] DaemonFC The air fryer can do that in about ten minutes. [02:37] TR News Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-130222.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-130222.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-130222.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-130222.txt [02:37] TR Bot IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, February 13, 2022 [02:38] TR News Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. 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"thank you for your answer, about Thunderbird" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-130222.html#tFeb%2013%2013:38:18 [02:40] TR Bot IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, February 13, 2022 [02:41] TR News Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-02-13.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-02-13.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now) [02:42] *alextee (~alextee@dexiw29c8htcg.irc) has joined #techrights [02:42] TR News "I erased all #Microsoft software from my system with a reinstall" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-130222.html#tFeb%2013%2023:27:30 [02:42] TR Bot IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, February 13, 2022 [02:45] TR News Have "Microsoft loves Linux" day. Let's hope it works out better than the story with the snake.... [02:47] TR News Sunday Alice's Point https://assets.amuniversal.com/157fad1054c5013a9170005056a9545d #dilbert [02:47] DaemonFC schestowitz, https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/srvpk3/ibm_executives_called_older_workers_dinobabies/ [02:47] TR Bot IBM executives called older workers 'dinobabies' who should be 'extinct' in internal emails released in age discrimination lawsuit : LateStageCapitalism [02:48] DaemonFC https://www.businessinsider.com/ibm-execs-called-older-workers-dinobabies-in-age-discrimination-lawsuit-2022-2 [02:48] Alternative link Cloudflare: businessinsider.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.businessinsider.com/ibm-execs-called-older-workers-dinobabies-in-age-discrimination-lawsuit-2022-2 [02:48] TR Bot IBM Execs Call Older Workers 'Dinobabies' in Age Bias Lawsuit [02:48] TR News Note to self: recording a 3-hour video will mean at least 6 hours of encoding afterwards, plus upload time for like half a GB (over copper lines). So when recording assume it'll go live about half a day later. Massive overhead. [02:49] TR News What #ibm calls "experience" (means EXPERIENCED) workers https://www.businessinsider.com/ibm-execs-called-older-workers-dinobabies-in-age-discrimination-lawsuit-2022-2?r=US&IR=T [02:49] Alternative link Cloudflare: businessinsider.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.businessinsider.com/ibm-execs-called-older-workers-dinobabies-in-age-discrimination-lawsuit-2022-2?r=US&IR=T [02:49] TR Bot IBM Execs Call Older Workers 'Dinobabies' in Age Bias Lawsuit [02:49] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: same IBM that accused RMS of "ableism" [02:49] schestowitz-TR guess who have "ageism"... [02:49] schestowitz-TR IBM [02:49] schestowitz-TR maybe they should "euthanise" this "burden on socety" [02:50] TR News What #ibm calls "expensive" (means EXPERIENCED) workers https://www.businessinsider.com/ibm-execs-called-older-workers-dinobabies-in-age-discrimination-lawsuit-2022-2?r=US&IR=T [02:50] Alternative link Cloudflare: businessinsider.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.businessinsider.com/ibm-execs-called-older-workers-dinobabies-in-age-discrimination-lawsuit-2022-2?r=US&IR=T [02:50] TR News Many #IBM Layoffs (in Marketing), But the Media Is Not Mentioning Those Layoffs At All Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/08/21/ibm-layoffs-in-marketing/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/21/ibm-layoffs-in-marketing/ [02:51] TR Bot Many IBM Layoffs (in Marketing), But the Media Is Not Mentioning Those Layoffs At All | Techrights [02:51] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 18.28 k/sec., IPFS upstream 18.36 average k/sec., average swarm size 267.76 [02:52] *alextee has quit (Quit: Leaving) [02:52] TR News FTR: #microsoft is worse than #ibm http://techrights.org/2020/07/30/microsoft-gender-equality/ [02:52] TR Bot Microsoft Gender (In)Equality: Women Dont Ask for Raises | Techrights [02:52] TR News What #IBM Does Not Want You to Watch Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/01/18/the-real-ibm-history/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/01/18/the-real-ibm-history/ [02:53] TR Bot What IBM Does Not Want You to Watch | Techrights [02:55] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Feb 14 [03:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techrights [03:13] AdmFubar1 https://www.amazon.com/Big-Blue-IBMs-Abuse-Power/dp/0396085156 [03:13] TR Bot Blue: IBM's Use and Abuse of Power: Delamarter, Richard T.: 9780396085157: Amazon.com: Books [03:14] AdmFubar1 read the reviews [03:19] IPFS Gemini requests since start of month: 199948 total Total number of pages in capsule: 39298 Active: active (running) since Mon 2022-02-07 16:50:38 GMT; 6 days ago [03:20] IPFS IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 38 GB TotalOut: 37 GB [03:21] MinceR so how is MICROS~1 doing with the consent decrees? [03:21] IPFS New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled. [03:28] TR News "But we who have seen the #Microsoft case essentially dropped know how that all works." https://www.amazon.com/Big-Blue-IBMs-Abuse-Power/dp/0396085156 see http://techrights.org/2020/05/27/real-history-of-microsoft/ #ibm #history [03:29] TR Bot Real History of Microsoft and How It Became Successful | Techrights [03:30] IPFS QmT6UzkVGBqiGJqW9tNXHnJ2F7GjgkFTQ1tvxxFeYF4VH3 [03:30] IPFS New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above. [03:40] *SkywaveC3 (~SkywaveC3@ekqdywfch2gng.irc) has joined #techrights [03:41] *Skywave has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:48] schestowitz http://www.thomas-pr.com/19/ces08/ces0821.html [03:48] TR Bot Party Photos! [03:48] schestowitz "Michael Larabel, Phoronix.com; Jason Jacobs, Techwarelabs.com, David Lin, Phoronix & Ramsom Koay at Futurelooks Party' [03:51] schestowitz https://twitter.com/michaellarabel/status/319194199947870208 [03:51] TR Bot YES!!!!!! CONFIRMED: #AMD will announce #UVD going open source tomorrow!!!! Will be exposed over #VDPAU. More details on @phoronix soon [03:54] DaemonFC Walmart is having problems stocking their shelves again. [03:55] DaemonFC This time I had to slip into the back room and grab oat milk because there was nobody there and a full box on the bin. [03:55] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:55] DaemonFC And there's barely any toothpaste. [03:56] DaemonFC Luckily, I grabbed 9 more tubes of toothpaste while it was on an iBotta rebate last month. [03:56] DaemonFC So we're good for a while. [03:57] DaemonFC The only stuff that hasn't been wiped out is the $6 a tube crap. :/ [03:57] DaemonFC Who the hell would pay $6 a tube? Unless you're just out and that's all that anyone has, I guess? [03:57] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.68 k/sec., IPFS upstream 31.03 average k/sec., average swarm size 267.84 [03:57] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [03:58] DaemonFC I noticed there were a lot of brands taking the opportunity to use COVID to discontinue their bargain brands to leave people with no other choice. [03:58] DaemonFC The end of 88 cent toothpaste? ● Feb 14 [04:00] schestowitz-TR we have it cheaper here [04:01] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: aldi also has some empty shelves sometimes [04:01] schestowitz-TR not sure what's to blame [04:01] schestowitz-TR truckers who rebel [04:01] schestowitz-TR people stockpiling [04:01] schestowitz-TR "supply chains" [04:01] schestowitz-TR brexit [04:01] schestowitz-TR covid [04:01] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:01] schestowitz-TR I doubt dovid is directly to blame [04:09] TR News #Techrights Bulletin for Sunday, February 13, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [04:09] TR Bot Bulletin Archives [04:09] TR News #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [04:09] TR Bot Techrights Full IPFS Index [04:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techrights [04:11] TR News Finally, after 7 hours, my 3-hour video is done re-encoding. 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[04:17] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:18] TR News "Maimane said there had been a systemic failure to create jobs through inclusive economic growth and a modernised basic education system." https://www.citizen.co.za/news/south-africa/politics/3015339/banning-foreigners-is-scapegoating-that-goes-against-ubuntu-says-maimane/ #southafrica #africa #racism #nationalism #xenophobia [04:18] Alternative link Cloudflare: citizen.co.za | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.citizen.co.za/news/south-africa/politics/3015339/banning-foreigners-is-scapegoating-that-goes-against-ubuntu-says-maimane/ [04:18] TR Bot Banning foreigners is scapegoating that goes against ubuntu - Maimane [04:24] TR News SMYLES - Love Grows (Where My Rosemary Goes) [Official Audio] - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=WYpjUEPbL-o #video #invidious [04:24] TR Bot SMYLES - Love Grows (Where My Rosemary Goes) [Official Audio] - Invidious [04:30] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techrights [04:33] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:50] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techrights [04:53] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 17.78 k/sec., IPFS upstream 36.45 average k/sec., average swarm size 267.93 ● Feb 14 [05:01] AdmFubar1 https://www.databreaches.net/cydia-dev-discloses-ethereum-l2-bug-optimism-attacker-could-have-printed-an-arbitrary-quantity-of-tokens/ [05:01] Alternative link Cloudflare: databreaches.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.databreaches.net/cydia-dev-discloses-ethereum-l2-bug-optimism-attacker-could-have-printed-an-arbitrary-quantity-of-tokens/ [05:01] TR Bot Cydia Dev Discloses Ethereum L2 Bug Optimism Attacker Could Have Printed an Arbitrary Quantity of Tokens [05:03] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [05:04] AdmFubar1 https://www.pogowasright.org/twitter-cans-2fa-service-provider-over-surveillance-claims/ [05:04] Alternative link Cloudflare: pogowasright.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.pogowasright.org/twitter-cans-2fa-service-provider-over-surveillance-claims/ [05:04] TR Bot Twitter cans 2FA service provider over surveillance claims [05:08] *psydroid8 has quit (connection closed) [05:08] *psydroid8 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techrights [05:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techrights [05:14] *psydroid8 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [05:16] *psydroid8 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techrights [05:17] *darwin (~d@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [05:49] -glguy/Wallops-Hi. We'll be doing a bit of maintenance shortly. We'll be restarting silver, lead, and palladium, and then rerouting which will briefly affect a small portion of the network. I don't anticipate any of the tasks will take too long. The Tor onion service might take a couple minutes to advertise itself. [05:51] *kevingranade has quit (*.net *.split) [05:51] *jessicara has quit (*.net *.split) [05:51] *includeals has quit (*.net *.split) [05:52] *jessicara (~shirogits@user/jessicara) has joined #techrights [05:52] *includeals (~includeal@a94-132-138-99.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #techrights [05:52] *kevingranade (sid297678@CataclysmDDA/leader/kevingranade) has joined #techrights [05:53] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 14.40 k/sec., IPFS upstream 18.65 average k/sec., average swarm size 268.01 [05:55] *brabo has quit (*.net *.split) [05:55] *brabo (~brabo@user/brabo) has joined #techrights ● Feb 14 [06:04] -A_Dragon/Wallops-And that completes our server juggling for today! Have a lovely monday (or try to, anyway) [06:04] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@e56aqnyrpnfiu.irc) has joined #techrights [06:05] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [06:36] DaemonFC https://www.pcmag.com/news/biggest-software-flops-of-all-time [06:36] Alternative link Cloudflare: pcmag.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.pcmag.com/news/biggest-software-flops-of-all-time [06:36] TR Bot Biggest Software Flops of All Time | PCMag [06:36] DaemonFC "Still, many of the components from GNU were moved over to create the Linux operating system." [06:36] DaemonFC LOL [06:38] DaemonFC "Meanwhile, Netscape had released the core of its browser as open source, which would eventually become Firefox. That didn't help it get a new version out, though, and when it finally shipped in November 2000, Navigator 6.0 (they skipped 5.0 in the interim) was a bloated, buggy mess that didn't even run on midrange PCs of the time." [06:38] DaemonFC It ran okay on a budget PC from 1998 that I had. [06:38] DaemonFC It just took a while to load. [06:49] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 15.80 k/sec., IPFS upstream 26.65 average k/sec., average swarm size 268.06 [06:53] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [06:57] kingoffrance https://gigamonkeys.wordpress.com/2009/09/28/a-tale-of-two-rewrites/ [06:57] TR Bot Duct tape context: A tale of tworewrites | A billion monkeys can't be wrong [06:58] kingoffrance Well, it was decisions like not using C++ and not using threads that made us ship the product on time. The other big thing was we always shipped all platforms simultaneously; that was another thing they thought was just stupid. Oh, 90 percent of people are using Windows, so well focus on the Windows side of things and then well port it later. [06:59] kingoffrance If Zawinskis recollection is accurate and the 4.0 rewrite had really replaced all the old code, then the fact the Mozilla project felt compelled to do a big rewrite is only evidence of what a mess the first rewrite had made of things and says nothing about the quality of the pre-4.0 code. ● Feb 14 [07:00] kingoffrance So the 3.0 that they had begun working on became 4.0 which, as you know, is one of the biggest software disasters there has ever been. It basically killed the company. It took a long time to die, but that was it: [07:01] kingoffrance so the 6.0 was due to windows and c++ [07:01] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving) [07:01] kingoffrance it just took a while to fester and boil [07:04] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techrights [07:04] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [07:05] *psydroid3 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techrights [07:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techrights [07:13] kingoffrance the irony maybe is now it is modern to do "separate processes" [07:18] DaemonFC The Netscape 4 series was unlikely to be all new code. [07:18] DaemonFC 1. Why would you throw away working code? 2. Most of the bugs in Netscape 3 carried over, and were added to. [07:19] DaemonFC bbl [07:19] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [07:27] kingoffrance it doesnt say it was new code, it implies it was replaced [07:27] kingoffrance eventually replacing all [07:27] kingoffrance RIIR [07:30] kingoffrance https://github.com/ansuz/RIIR/issues/ [07:30] TR Bot ansuz/RIIR GitHub [07:31] *aprates (~aprates@sourcehut/users/aprates) has joined #techrights [07:37] psydroid2 RIIF as a business model to keep the lights on [07:37] psydroid2 F for Fancylang [07:41] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [07:41] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techrights [07:49] *techrights_guest|52 (~67fb13fe@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [07:49] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 16.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 42.96 average k/sec., average swarm size 268.12 [07:52] *techrights_guest|52 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) ● Feb 14 [08:00] *guysoft42 (~guysoft@2a0d:6fc1:2:1f00:a023:18de:6143:54df) has joined #techrights [08:11] *aprates has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [08:15] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:15] *inky (~inky@5.77.192.136) has joined #techrights [08:16] *aprates (~aprates@sourcehut/users/aprates) has joined #techrights [08:17] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [08:30] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techrights [08:46] activelow often, compiler features and extensions, in conjunction with standard libraries ones, are confused with language features [08:47] activelow meaning, save programming is possible with C, because it is compiler/stdlib extensions required [08:47] activelow the benefit of rust-lang, if any, is it's implemented as a language frontend on bleeding-edge compiler: llvm [08:48] activelow yet, llvm has the same problem as gcc: it's slow and inefficient in comparison to traditional *nix C compilers [08:48] activelow besides, TinyCC for example implements a "bounds-checker" to add runtime-diagnostics/forensics, to catch violations [08:49] activelow difference here, there's no corporate intereste behind (IBM Wintel, Apple, etc) [08:49] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 12.23 k/sec., IPFS upstream 36.45 average k/sec., average swarm size 268.16 [08:50] activelow and it's particularly interesting to those who develop and work with a computer, and not play with it [08:50] activelow while this is where the money is made: with pseudo tech "journalism" presenting rubbish "benchmarks", sell video games and power-hungry electronics [08:51] activelow somehow, that's the irony, with GNU/Linux and other foss projects, claiming there wasn't any AT&T code remaining [08:52] activelow when it was the big fishes, Microsoft, IBM/Wintel, Telco who pushed c++ aggressively, into realms where it didn't belong [08:54] TR News NEWS #Raphael Writing Your Own Sudo https://rtpg.co/2022/02/13/your-own-sudo.html [08:54] TR Bot Writing Your Own Sudo [08:55] TR News NEWS #Ubuntu Low latency Linux kernel for industrial embedded systems Part I https://ubuntu.com/blog/industrial-embedded-systems [08:55] Alternative link Cloudflare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com/blog/industrial-embedded-systems [08:55] TR Bot latency Linux kernel for industrial embedded systems Part I | Ubuntu [08:55] TR News NEWS #Ubuntu Low latency Linux kernel for industrial embedded systems Part II https://ubuntu.com/blog/industrial-embedded-systems-ii [08:55] Alternative link Cloudflare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com/blog/industrial-embedded-systems-ii [08:55] TR Bot latency Linux kernel for industrial embedded systems Part II | Ubuntu [08:57] TR News [Old] #Crypto choosing safe curves for elliptic-curve cryptography https://safecurves.cr.yp.to/ [08:57] TR Bot SafeCurves: Introduction ● Feb 14 [09:02] TR News NEWS #CNN Owl photos are flooding the #internet (or #web rather) ahead of the Super Bowl. Here's why https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/13/us/superb-owl-meme-super-bowl-scn/index.html [09:02] Alternative link Cloudflare: cnn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/13/us/superb-owl-meme-super-bowl-scn/index.html [09:02] TR Bot Superb Owl meme: The spelling error that turned into a meme - CNN [09:03] kingoffrance thats a good observation ...and why single-dimensional "rivalries" always obscure things [09:06] activelow it's an epic knee-jerk, if you think about it: leading compilers such as gcc and llvm cannot be bootstrapped anymore with a traditional *nix C compiler [09:06] activelow gcc-4.7 was the last one confirmed with TinyCC [09:08] activelow anyhow, thinking about it, what professional telco management, what i was educated for, is worth nowadays: nothing [09:08] activelow i departed 2005 [09:08] activelow thats more than a decade of clusterfuck now [09:10] *activelow listening to death metal [09:14] TR News NEWS #Reason #Censorship The #HeritageFoundation Wants To Break the #Internet https://reason.com/2022/02/10/the-heritage-foundation-wants-to-break-the-internet/ [09:14] TR Bot The Heritage Foundation Wants To Break the Internet [09:17] kingoffrance i saw in another channel another at&t thing http://web.archive.org/web/20041227143022/http://www2.research.att.com/~gsf/mam/mam.html basically you can generate "old makefiles" for ancient things, "modern" .......or whittle it down to variables and commands (any shell ever...could output dos batch file if you wanted, or some obscure ancient mainframe os) [09:17] TR Bot /home/gsf/doc/mam94/mam.mm mm document [09:18] kingoffrance its meant more for a "bootstrap" i think [09:21] TR News NEWS #NewZealandHerald #Megaupload David Fisher: 10 years of Megaupload, 10 things we learned https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/david-fisher-10-years-of-megaupload-heres-10-things-we-learned-and-a-few-we-did-not/4QCNTD7B63PCC23SU2OZQNLBEQ/ [09:21] Alternative link Cloudflare: nzherald.co.nz | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/david-fisher-10-years-of-megaupload-heres-10-things-we-learned-and-a-few-we-did-not/4QCNTD7B63PCC23SU2OZQNLBEQ/ [09:21] TR Bot David Fisher: 10 years of Megaupload, 10 things we learned - NZ Herald [09:22] TR News NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights Rightsholders See #Iraq as a 'Corrupt' Hotbed for #Sharing , Ask the U.S. to Step In https://torrentfreak.com/rightsholders-see-iraq-as-a-corrupt-hotbed-for-online-piracy-ask-the-u-s-to-step-in-220213/ [09:22] Alternative link Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/rightsholders-see-iraq-as-a-corrupt-hotbed-for-online-piracy-ask-the-u-s-to-step-in-220213/ [09:22] TR Bot See Iraq as a 'Corrupt' Hotbed for Online Piracy, Ask the U.S. to Step In * TorrentFreak [09:22] activelow "For Whom The Bell Tolls" [09:22] activelow "Take a look to the sky just before you die [09:22] activelow It's the last time you will" [09:22] TR News NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights ACE Seize #IPTV Domains, Press #Clownflare to Hand Over Identitities https://torrentfreak.com/mpa-ace-seize-pirate-iptv-domains-press-cloudflare-to-hand-over-identitities-220213/ [09:22] Alternative link Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/mpa-ace-seize-pirate-iptv-domains-press-cloudflare-to-hand-over-identitities-220213/ [09:22] TR Bot Seize Pirate IPTV Domains, Press Cloudflare to Hand Over Identitities * TorrentFreak [09:27] TR News #IRC Proceedings: Sunday, February 13, 2022 Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/14/irc-log-130222/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/14/irc-log-130222/ [09:27] TR Bot IRC Proceedings: Sunday, February 13, 2022 | Techrights [09:49] TR News When It Comes to Patents, Lies Have Become the 'Norm' http://techrights.org/2022/02/14/patent-lies-as-the-norm/ #patents #epo #misinformation #googlenews #gulagnoise [09:49] TR Bot When It Comes to Patents, Lies Have Become the Norm | Techrights [09:50] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 14.33 k/sec., IPFS upstream 46.03 average k/sec., average swarm size 268.21 ● Feb 14 [10:05] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [10:10] *inky (~inky@5.77.254.89) has joined #techrights [10:10] *aprates has quit (Quit: WeeChat 3.4) [10:14] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [10:17] TR News [Meme] Asking the Newsman for Information Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/14/gulag-noise/ #patents #epo #misinformation #googlenews #gulagnoise | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/14/gulag-noise/ [10:17] TR Bot [Meme] Asking the Newsman for Information | Techrights [10:20] TR News #ibm #redhat uses hugely corrupt #gartner (probably corrupted by IBM too, not just #microsoft and Oracle etc.) as a source https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/2/it-leadership-how-recognize-and-manage-change-fatigue #gartnergroup http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gartner_Group [10:20] TR Bot IT leadership: How to recognize and manage change fatigue | The Enterprisers Project [10:21] TR Bot Gartner Group - Techrights [10:21] TR News How I configure Vim as my default editor on Linux | https://opensource.com/article/22/2/configure-vim-default-editor #FreeSW #RedHat #IBM #GNU #Linux [10:21] TR Bot I configure Vim as my default editor on Linux | Opensource.com [10:28] TR News NEWS #CommonDreams Arrests at US-Canada Border Finally Bring End to Anti-[Mandate] Blockade https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/02/13/arrests-us-canada-border-finally-bring-end-anti-vax-blockade Mandate opposers are NOT "anti-vaxx"; SOME might be, but CommonDreams now openly participates in a malicious smear campaign that helps a sinister #patent pool [10:28] Alternative link Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/02/13/arrests-us-canada-border-finally-bring-end-anti-vax-blockade [10:28] TR Bot Arrests at US-Canada Border Finally Bring End to Anti-Vax Blockade [10:34] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161431 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [10:34] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [10:40] TR News old: A rant about #odysee and #lbry https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/a-rant-about-odysee-and-lbry:1 #rossmanngroup [10:40] Alternative link Cloudflare: odysee.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/a-rant-about-odysee-and-lbry:1 [10:40] TR Bot rant about odysee and lbry [10:42] TR News SparkFun ALC - FAQ - La Carte - #SparkFun Electronics https://alc.sparkfun.com/faq [10:42] TR Bot SparkFun ALC - FAQ - La Carte - SparkFun Electronics [10:43] TR News Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Adobe Audition Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161432 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [10:43] TR Bot Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Adobe Audition | Tux Machines [10:45] TR News Round color LCD board comes in Raspberry Pi RP2040 or ESP8266 flavor (Crowdfunding) Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161433 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [10:45] TR Bot Round color LCD board comes in Raspberry Pi RP2040 or ESP8266 flavor (Crowdfunding) | Tux Machines [10:49] TR News "Apple should open source the unknown AirTag detection mechanism." https://social.linux.pizza/@oklomsy/107781295183366216 #apple #surveillance #NSA #PRISM #liars [10:49] TR Bot Oklomsy: "Apple should open source the unknown AirTag detec" - Linux.Pizza [10:49] TR News Background: The tug-of-war over the transfer of personal data between the #EU and the US https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&u=https://femtejuli.se/2022/02/10/bakgrund-dragkampen-om-overforing-av-persondata-mellan-eu-och-usa/ [10:49] TR Bot Bakgrund: Dragkampen om verfring av persondata mellan EU och USA [10:50] TR News "Wow, lots of Windows techs on Facebook these days. Point out any of the major, fundamental failings of any Microsoft software these days, and these guys (bots perhaps?) jump all over you." https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@lightweight/107787168233712300 http://techrights.org/wiki/AstroTurfing [10:50] TR Bot Dave Lane: "Wow, lots of Windows techs on Facebook these days" - Mastodon - NZOSS [10:50] TR Bot AstroTurfing - Techrights [10:51] TR News "I guess they think that if people start believing what people like me are telling them, then the #Microsoft gravy train (on whose margins these guys are eking out an existence) might scream to a stop." https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@lightweight/107787168233712300 http://techrights.org/wiki/AstroTurfing [10:53] TR News 50 [10:53] TR News "many people are quitting #redhat these days" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-120222.html#tFeb%2012%2002:07:50 [10:53] TR Bot IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, February 12, 2022 [10:54] TR News "if i could turn the planet into the Zone where we could all be S.T.A.L.K.E.R.S. i would." http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-120222.html#tFeb%2012%2000:24:51 #Stalker https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0079944/ [10:54] TR Bot IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, February 12, 2022 [10:54] TR Bot (1979) - IMDb [10:56] TR News Meet Over Lunch https://assets.amuniversal.com/4b399eb06a70013a9689005056a9545d #dilbert ● Feb 14 [11:01] TR News "Linux distributions such as Ubuntu or Arch Linux Arm on the Google Tensor-powered phone, and do so at near-native speed." https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/02/14/android-13-virtualization-lets-pixel-6-run-windows-11-linux-distributions/ [11:01] Alternative link Cloudflare: cnx-software.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/02/14/android-13-virtualization-lets-pixel-6-run-windows-11-linux-distributions/ [11:01] TR Bot Android 13 virtualization lets Pixel 6 run Windows 11, Linux distributions - CNX Software [11:02] TR News #Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161434 #Linux #TuxMachines [11:02] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [11:09] TR News I wish to humbly and respectfully share my experiences which have been rather consistent this past year or two; due to the incredible amount of #misinformation Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/14/patent-lies-as-the-norm/ #Techrights #patents #epo #corruption| Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/14/patent-lies-as-the-norm/ [11:10] TR News The "lies are truth" attitude has been greatly amplified and reinforced by the Web, more so with dominant search engines that have vested interests and a stake in the outcome Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/14/gulag-noise/ #Techrights #gulag #patents #epo #corruption | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/14/gulag-noise/ [11:11] TR News Function Granular #KASLR https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220209185752.1226407-1-alexandr.lobakin@intel.com/ #linux #kernel [11:11] TR Bot [PATCH v10 00/15] Function Granular KASLR - Alexander Lobakin [11:12] TR News #v3dv : Status Update for Open Source #Vulkan Driver for #RaspberryPi 4 https://fosdem.org/2022/schedule/event/v3dv/ [11:12] TR Bot FOSDEM 2022 - v3dv: Status Update for Open Source Vulkan Driver for Raspberry Pi 4 [11:31] *psydroid8 has quit (connection closed) [11:31] *psydroid9 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techrights [11:49] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 18.25 k/sec., IPFS upstream 29.83 average k/sec., average swarm size 268.28 ● Feb 14 [12:07] *SkywaveC3 has quit (Quit) [12:08] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@4j9jkcntt88f2.irc) has joined #techrights [12:16] *bnchs (~bnchs@humc2nu33vbyy.irc) has joined #techrights [12:19] bnchs i wish this server had a message recap like tilde.chat [12:47] *inky (~inky@5.77.192.136) has joined #techrights [12:54] schestowitz-TR what is that? [12:54] schestowitz-TR scroll up? [12:54] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/08/09/ircv3-irc-scrollback/ [12:54] TR Bot Scrollback in Techrights IRC (4 Methods) | Techrights [12:55] schestowitz simplest way: /history #techrights 1h [12:56] TR News KDEs Dolphin File Manager Finally Brings Root File Operations. Heres #HowTo Use Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161435 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:56] TR Bot KDE's Dolphin File Manager Finally Brings Root File Operations. Here's How to Use | Tux Machines ● Feb 14 [13:00] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:07] *tgraswe (~bodg@t5tbi7ajpixb2.irc) has joined #techrights [13:12] schestowitz-TR hi tgraswe [13:14] TR News About to post long video about #JoinDiaspora [13:17] tgraswe hi [13:19] *Skywave has quit (connection closed) [13:21] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@mii8cedt3f3mk.irc) has joined #techrights [13:24] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@7hnksqkvhrvj2.irc) has joined #techrights [13:30] TR News Comments to the TRAI for the, "Consultation Paper on Regulatory Framework for Promoting Data Economy Through Establishment of Data Centres, Content Delivery Networks, and Interconnect Exchanges" https://internetfreedom.in/trai-cdn-consultation/ #india #in [13:30] Alternative link Cloudflare: internetfreedom.in | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://internetfreedom.in/trai-cdn-consultation/ [13:30] TR Bot Comments to the TRAI for the, "Consultation Paper on Regulatory Framework for Promoting Data Economy Through Establishment of Data Centres, Content Delivery Networks, and Interconnect Exchanges" [13:32] TR News Proprietary vs proprietary vs proprietary https://www.laptopmag.com/features/bye-microsoft-edge-vivaldi-is-the-best-chrome-alternative [13:32] TR Bot Bye Microsoft Edge! Vivaldi is the best Chrome alternative | Laptop Mag [13:32] *inky_ (~inky@46.36.117.123) has joined #techrights [13:33] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [13:34] TR News #phoronix helped spread #linux FUD against #GNULinux performance by testing something before it's even finalised (crude code) and now wants traffic for the 'correction' too https://www.notebookcheck.net/Windows-11-no-longer-the-fastest-OS-for-Alder-Lake-Linux-5-16-on-Core-i9-12900K-emerges-winner-in-most-benchmarks.598744.0.html see http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/phoronix-went-too-far/ [13:34] Alternative link Cloudflare: notebookcheck.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.notebookcheck.net/Windows-11-no-longer-the-fastest-OS-for-Alder-Lake-Linux-5-16-on-Core-i9-12900K-emerges-winner-in-most-benchmarks.598744.0.html [13:34] TR Bot 11 no longer the fastest OS for Alder Lake: Linux 5.16 on Core i9-12900K emerges winner in most benchmarks - NotebookCheck.net News [13:34] TR Bot When Blogs Become Marketing and Benchmarks Become Product Promotions | Techrights [13:36] TR News "Fedora gave me the opportunity to learn more about the Linux distro. Now I make applications for the Linux Fedora operating system. I'm sure with a little research I'll be able to package for other Linux distros" https://vanessa-kris.github.io/career-opportunities.html #deletegithub [13:36] TR Bot Vanessa's Blog | Career Opportunities [13:40] TR News #arcolinux oughtn't outsource to #microsoft #proprietarySoftware (that itself merits a bug report) https://arcolinux.com/use-envycontrol-to-switch-between-intel-amd-and-your-nvidia-graphical-card/ [13:40] TR Bot envycontrol to switch between intel/amd and your nvidia graphical card | ArcoLinux [13:40] *gde33 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [13:50] TR News Talks and Slides by #Collabora at #FOSDEM 2022 - Collabora Office and Collabora Online Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161436 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [13:50] TR Bot Talks and Slides by Collabora at FOSDEM 2022 - Collabora Office and Collabora Online | Tux Machines [13:52] TR News #KodachiLinux 8.15 is out https://www.digi77.com/ #oman #gnu #linux #security [13:52] TR Bot Eagle Eye | Nonprofit Organization | Stay Secured, Stay Assured [13:56] TR News Michel is now in #geminiSpace gemini://tilde.team/~michel/ see gemini://tilde.team/~michel/2022-02-10-lagrange-gemini-fedora.gmi "my first thought was -- this is good enough it could entice new people to Gemini." [13:56] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161437 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [13:56] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [13:58] TR News "Ive covered a couple of web vulnerabilities that (mostly) arent, and now its time for a Windows specific one. A common finding from build reviews and CIS comparisons: unquoted spaces in service or run paths." https://www.pentestpartners.com/security-blog/vulnerabilities-that-arent-unquoted-spaces/ http://techrights.org/2021/10/29/microsoft-national-security-threat/ [13:58] Alternative link Cloudflare: pentestpartners.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.pentestpartners.com/security-blog/vulnerabilities-that-arent-unquoted-spaces/ [13:58] TR Bot Vulnerabilities that arent. Unquoted Spaces | Pen Test Partners [13:58] TR Bot Microsoft: Still a National Security Threat | Techrights ● Feb 14 [14:02] TR News #vmware campaign of hate and FUD against #linux carries on http://techrights.org/2022/02/13/vmware-epic-fud/ see http://techrights.org/2022/02/13/vmware-epic-fud/ [14:02] TR Bot Latest Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt (FUD) Patterns Against Linux (the Real Issue is Proprietary Software) | Techrights [14:02] TR News #vmware campaign of hate and FUD against #linux carries on http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161291#comment-32821 see http://techrights.org/2022/02/13/vmware-epic-fud/ [14:02] TR Bot VMware Has Launched Anti-Linux FUD Campaign | Tux Machines [14:04] TR News "I am very happy to report that a new version of the #VLC #bittorrent plugin was just uploaded into #debian . The changes since last time is mostly code clean in the download code. The package is currently in Debian unstable, but should be available in Debian testing son." http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Updated_vlc_bittorrent_plugin_in_Debian__version_2_14_.html [14:04] TR Bot Petter Reinholdtsen: Updated vlc bittorrent plugin in Debian (version 2.14) [14:15] TR News #KaliLinux : The Most Accessible Distro on The Planet Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161438 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [14:15] TR Bot Kali Linux: The Most Accessible Distro on The Planet | Tux Machines [14:15] TR News #KDE s Latest Move Will Help Raspberry Pi and PinePhone Pro Users Immensely Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161439 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [14:15] TR Bot KDE's Latest Move Will Help Raspberry Pi and PinePhone Pro Users Immensely | Tux Machines [14:21] bnchs reading C++ templates are like shit to my eyes [14:25] psydroid2 not to mention error messages with many lines of indecipherable garbage [14:30] TR News Some good news, so I've decided to summarise what the situation seems to be: No Need for a #Diaspora Away From #JoinDiaspora , as the Pod Looks Like It'll Survive After All http://techrights.org/2022/02/14/joindiaspora-new-lease-of-life/ #federation #freesw @glynmoody [14:30] TR Bot No Need for a Diaspora Away From JoinDiaspora, as the Pod Looks Like Itll Survive After All | Techrights [14:31] schestowitz AMD again https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=PowerTOP-ThinkPad-Ryzen-5000 [14:31] Alternative link Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=PowerTOP-ThinkPad-Ryzen-5000 [14:31] TR Bot - Is PowerTOP Tuning Worthwhile For Modern AMD Linux Laptops? - Phoronix [14:32] schestowitz just AMD? [14:33] TR News Low latency #Linux for industrial embedded systems - Part III | Ubuntu https://ubuntu.com//blog/industrial-embedded-systems-iii #ubuntu #kernel [14:33] Alternative link Cloudflare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/industrial-embedded-systems-iii [14:33] TR Bot latency Linux for industrial embedded systems Part III | Ubuntu [14:34] *forkbombe has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:34] MinceR http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/egg-slut.jpg ( https://www.engrish.com/2019/09/quit-food-shaming/ ) [14:34] TR Bot Quit food shaming! [14:37] TR News Theres technical work/discussion and apparently advanced diplomacy/negotiation underway to pass #JoinDiaspora to new hands, giving this very important pod (over 316,000 registered users; the video erroneously says 316) a new lease of life http://techrights.org/2022/02/14/joindiaspora-new-lease-of-life/ [14:41] TR News "A biographical adventure set on an island like no other, Welcome to Elk from developer Triple Topping has a new update available that aims to make the experience on Linux with Steam Play Proton and the Steam Deck better." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/welcome-to-elk-readies-up-for-the-steam-deck-and-proton/ [14:41] Alternative link Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/welcome-to-elk-readies-up-for-the-steam-deck-and-proton/ [14:41] TR Bot to Elk readies up for the Steam Deck and Proton | GamingOnLinux [14:42] TR News "Running it on #GNU #Linux is easy." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/doom-shinobi-is-my-new-favourite-gzdoom-mod/ [14:42] Alternative link Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/doom-shinobi-is-my-new-favourite-gzdoom-mod/ [14:42] TR Bot Shinobi is my new favourite GZDoom mod | GamingOnLinux [14:43] TR News "Vulkan post-processing layer #vkBasalt allows #Linux #gamers to run various visual enhancement features, along with support for running various Reshade Fx shaders." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/vulkan-post-processing-layer-vkbasalt-gets-a-few-tweaks-in-v0325/ [14:43] Alternative link Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/vulkan-post-processing-layer-vkbasalt-gets-a-few-tweaks-in-v0325/ [14:43] TR Bot post-processing layer vkBasalt gets a few tweaks in v0.3.2.5 | GamingOnLinux [14:43] *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #techrights [14:43] *psymin (~psymin@user/psymin) has joined #techrights [14:48] TR News #Games: Super Auto Pets, Welcome to Elk, Doom Shinobi, Friendship Games Week Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161440 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [14:48] TR Bot Games: Super Auto Pets, Welcome to Elk, Doom Shinobi, Friendship Games Week | Tux Machines [14:55] *pyfisch9 (~pyfisch@user/pyfisch) has joined #techrights [14:56] *pyfisch has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [14:56] *pyfisch9 is now known as pyfisch [14:56] TR News #PeppermintOS 11 Released: 6 New Features to Expect Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161441 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [14:56] TR Bot Peppermint OS 11 Released: 6 New Features to Expect | Tux Machines [14:58] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Feb 14 [15:07] MinceR http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/large-area.jpg ( https://www.engrish.com/2019/10/i-just-happened-upon-this/ ) [15:07] TR Bot I just happened upon this [15:10] *verbose (~verbose@xm5z894qxaqia.irc) has joined #techrights [15:10] TR News IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161442 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:10] TR Bot IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines [15:10] TR News Got to boot a #RasPi Zero 2 W with #Debian Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161443 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:10] TR Bot Got to boot a RPi Zero 2 W with Debian | Tux Machines [15:11] TR News #Kernel : Low Latency, vkBasalt, and Benchmarks Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161444 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:11] TR Bot Kernel: Low Latency, vkBasalt, and Benchmarks | Tux Machines [15:12] TR News Software: #VLC #Bittorrent Plugin and NCMPCPP Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161445 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:12] TR Bot Software: VLC Bittorrent Plugin and NCMPCPP | Tux Machines [15:12] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161446 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:12] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [15:12] TR News #Kile : An Interactive Cross-Platform #LaTeX Editor by KDE Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161447 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:12] TR Bot Kile: An Interactive Cross-Platform LaTeX Editor by KDE | Tux Machines [15:15] TR News Links 14/2/2022: #KDE on ARM Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/14/kde-on-arm/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/14/kde-on-arm/ [15:15] TR Bot Links 14/2/2022: KDE on ARM | Techrights [15:39] *CrystalMath (~coderain@ekxeycx4vgzwk.irc) has joined #techrights [15:40] MinceR (cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/weekend-random-randomness-1-29-22-20.jpg [15:40] Alternative link Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/weekend-random-randomness-1-29-22-20.jpg [15:56] *alextee (~alextee@ey72dshffzx3n.irc) has joined #techrights [15:58] *u-amarsh04 has quit (connection closed) ● Feb 14 [16:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techrights [16:10] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 17.61 k/sec., IPFS upstream 32.88 average k/sec., average swarm size 268.42 [16:10] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 17.61 k/sec., IPFS upstream 32.88 average k/sec., average swarm size 268.42 [16:11] TR News #NanoPi router board updated with 8GB eMMC and a metal case Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161448 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [16:11] TR Bot NanoPi router board updated with 8GB eMMC and a metal case | Tux Machines [16:12] TR News #Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161449 #Linux #TuxMachines [16:12] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [16:24] TR News Same #hp that 'settled' with #microsoft on offering #WSL (Windows) INSTEAD of "proper" #gnu #linux https://nitter.eu/fcassia/status/1493035965274894336 https://nitter.eu/fcassia/status/1493031338512900101 @fcassia [16:24] TR Bot Fernando Cassia (@fcassia): "Dear @ubuntu can you tell @hp' s marketing that there is no such thing as "Ubuntu 2004" -which btw sounds decades old- but rather "Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (2020)"? Thanks in advance. https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/tech-takes/z-by-hp-data-science-software #DataScience #HP #Linux #fail @schestowitz @zbyhp @cesarperezaznar @ConDri" | nitter [16:24] TR Bot Fernando Cassia (@fcassia): "This is truly #horrible @HP Hiding your #Ubuntu #Linux recovery images, why? #zSeries #HpZ2 #z2G8 #Preloads #DataScience cc/@schestowitz" | nitter [16:26] schestowitz AMD again https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-Completes-Xilinx-Deal [16:26] Alternative link Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-Completes-Xilinx-Deal [16:26] TR Bot Completes Its Acquisition Of Xilinx - Phoronix [16:28] XRevan86 The intrigue of the week is whether Russia will "recognise independence" of LDPR. [16:29] TR News The 'Linux' Foundation continues shilling #Microsoft with #greenwashing ; this foundation actively hurts Linux https://www.rcrwireless.com/20220214/network-infrastructure/microsoft-linux-foundation-others-join-carbon-call see http://techrights.org/2021/11/09/linux-foundation-greenwash/ #zemlin is a #Fraud [16:29] Alternative link Cloudflare: rcrwireless.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.rcrwireless.com/20220214/network-infrastructure/microsoft-linux-foundation-others-join-carbon-call [16:29] TR Bot Microsoft, Linux Foundation, others join Carbon Call - RCR Wireless News [16:29] TR Bot Linux Foundation Has Become Even Worse Than Climate Science Deniers | Techrights [16:30] TR News The people who pushed to cancel RMS are falling on their sword. First, Bully de Blanc. Now, her boss: https://blog.halon.org.uk/2022/02/handing-over/ [16:30] TR Bot Handing over Liberal Murmurs [16:33] schestowitz-TR just when I needed a subject for a video :-) [16:34] TR News " #NVIDIA decided #Linux gamers need a little love on Valentines Day so they put up a small driver release for you." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/nvidia-fix-up-a-vulkan-problem-with-the-v51054-driver-release [16:34] Alternative link Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/nvidia-fix-up-a-vulkan-problem-with-the-v51054-driver-release [16:34] TR Bot fix up a Vulkan problem with the v510.54 driver release | GamingOnLinux [16:34] schestowitz Stormy Peters [16:34] schestowitz Miguel de Icaza [16:34] schestowitz who next? [16:34] schestowitz Did Neil get a job offer from Microsoft? [16:35] schestowitz ot: I keep seeing people who say Miguel de Icaza is gay (not that it matter), starting to wonder if that is true [16:35] schestowitz *matters [16:37] TR News "Prefer #GOG over other stores for their #DRMfree collection? It's Valentines Day and of course there's a sale. The We Love Games Sale is live until Monday, February 21st at 2 pm UTC. This sale features a number of big hitters, new releases and plenty of indie gems to look out for." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/gog-puts-up-a-we-love-games-sale-with-lots-of-good-deals/ [16:37] Alternative link Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/gog-puts-up-a-we-love-games-sale-with-lots-of-good-deals/ [16:37] TR Bot puts up a We Love Games Sale with lots of good deals | GamingOnLinux [16:39] TR News Linux Snatches Alder Lake Productivity Crown From Windows 11 | Tom's Hardware http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161444#comment-32822 [16:39] TR Bot Kernel: Low Latency, vkBasalt, and Benchmarks | Tux Machines [16:39] TR News #Linux tops Gulag's charts for fixing bugs the fastest - #ElReg https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/14/in_brief_security/ #theregister | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/14/#latest [16:39] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/14/in_brief_security/ [16:39] TR Bot Linux tops Google's charts for fixing bugs the fastest The Register [16:39] TR Bot Social Control Media Posts [16:40] TR News Does #Linux need antivirus? https://www.trustedreviews.com/opinion/linux-antivirus-4209397 see http://techrights.org/2021/10/29/microsoft-national-security-threat/ [16:40] Alternative link Cloudflare: trustedreviews.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.trustedreviews.com/opinion/linux-antivirus-4209397 [16:40] TR Bot Does Linux need antivirus? | Trusted Reviews [16:40] TR Bot Microsoft: Still a National Security Threat | Techrights [16:42] TR News Introducing #Buildkite integration - Octopus Deploy https://octopus.com/blog/introducing-buildkite-integration #octopus | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/14/#latest [16:42] Alternative link Cloudflare: octopus.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://octopus.com/blog/introducing-buildkite-integration [16:42] TR Bot Buildkite integration - Octopus Deploy [16:43] TR News #Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161450 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [16:43] TR Bot Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [16:45] TR News More odor at #phoronix today and yesterday. Lots of #amd stories, mostly fluff. So sad a transition. Context: http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/phoronix-went-too-far/ [16:45] TR Bot When Blogs Become Marketing and Benchmarks Become Product Promotions | Techrights [16:56] psydroid2 Michael <3 AMD [16:56] psydroid2 Apalling Microlarabel Delusions [16:57] psydroid2 Appalling& ● Feb 14 [17:00] MinceR http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/hotdisshes.jpg ( https://www.engrish.com/2019/10/more-bang-for-your-buck/ ) [17:00] TR Bot More bang for your buck. [17:23] TR News #GNOMEFoundation is now without leadership http://techrights.org/wiki/GNOME_Foundation [17:23] TR Bot GNOME Foundation - Techrights [17:24] TR News #GNOMEFoundation is now without leadership http://techrights.org/wiki/GNOME_Foundation [17:27] TR News #AMD has a new spokesperson called Michael Larabel https://www.techradar.com/news/amds-linux-tweaks-pave-the-way-for-usb-4-in-ryzen-6000-laptops see http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/phoronix-went-too-far/ [17:27] TR Bot Linux tweaks pave the way for USB 4 in Ryzen 6000 laptops | TechRadar [17:33] TR News Random foods http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/hotdisshes.jpg [17:40] TR News Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161451 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:40] TR Bot Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [17:40] TR News #nodrm https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/gog-puts-up-a-we-love-games-sale-with-lots-of-good-deals/ [17:40] Alternative link Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/gog-puts-up-a-we-love-games-sale-with-lots-of-good-deals/ [17:45] MinceR https://i.redd.it/b80cqr7zu0o31.jpg [17:46] schestowitz can't argue with that... [17:46] MinceR i sort of can [17:46] schestowitz smoking kills creatures that smoke [17:47] MinceR a WMD that kills all life on Earth would kill humans too [17:47] MinceR and yet it would not be good for the environment [17:47] schestowitz depends on the WMD [17:47] schestowitz a virus can also be WMD [17:47] schestowitz on some lvel [17:47] schestowitz and it can impact one particular species more than the rest [17:49] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 16.38 k/sec., IPFS upstream 49.05 average k/sec., average swarm size 268.48 [17:59] ebin the link to the latest video from the index isn't working, it returns 404 http://techrights.org/videos/mcgovern-cannot-govern.webm [17:59] TR Bot ( status 404 @ http://techrights.org/videos/mcgovern-cannot-govern.webm ) ● Feb 14 [18:05] *forkbombe (~forkbombe@u89vdyv4abg8n.irc) has joined #techrights [18:07] *bnchs (~bnchs@humc2nu33vbyy.irc) has joined #techrights [18:14] bnchs hello [18:14] schestowitz-TR 0/ [18:14] SomeH4x0r hello [18:14] schestowitz-TR wait, it is uploading [18:14] ebin i will wait. thank you [18:15] schestowitz-TR the script just check what's there [18:15] schestowitz-TR even if in progres [18:15] ebin it's good to know that sometimes some waiting is necessary [18:19] schestowitz-TR te url works now, but the file is 1/3 complete [18:19] schestowitz-TR the video is still processing while uploading in two phases [18:19] MinceR https://hugelolcdn.com/i/747598.jpg [18:19] Alternative link Cloudflare: hugelolcdn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hugelolcdn.com/i/747598.jpg [18:41] bnchs any more epic memes [18:41] MinceR epic megamemes [18:42] bnchs bowser got fined 14.5 million dollars and got sent to prison for making modchips [18:42] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has joined #techrights [18:49] bnchs we pirate games for the playstation 4 here all the time, because sony doesn't accept our credit cards or paypals [18:49] bnchs fuck region restrictions [18:49] SomeH4x0r just "pirate" them no matter what [18:49] SomeH4x0r fuck Sony, it grew too big and now it MUST DIE [18:49] bnchs but i pirate them anyway [18:50] bnchs a 20 EUR giftcard is a mile walk, so i pirate games from a homebrew program instead [18:50] SomeH4x0r once an entity grows big enough, it should be considered suspicious, and likely no return [18:50] bnchs or 3 miles [18:50] bnchs "pirate" [18:51] MinceR human population has grown too big [18:51] SomeH4x0r Some people use "pirate" word to identify themselves, but iiuc this word was put by "copyright holders" initially, to make it look like "copying" is the same thing as "stealing" [18:51] SomeH4x0r applies as well [18:52] SomeH4x0r it causes various issues [18:52] schestowitz https://www.fsf.org/about/staff-and-board compare to https://web.archive.org/web/20210531154345/https://www.fsf.org/about/staff-and-board [18:52] TR Bot Staff and Board Free Software Foundation Working together for free software [18:52] TR Bot Staff and Board Free Software Foundation Working together for free software [18:52] SomeH4x0r what exactly there? [18:53] bnchs good for nopaystation [18:53] SomeH4x0r I'd still better not buy such a device in general, since afaik it has some shit still not removed [18:56] bnchs yeah, i bought it pre-modified [18:56] SomeH4x0r I mean things like malware from the big server, iirc you said they are still not fixed [18:57] bnchs yes, that was because of the auto update sony abused [18:57] bnchs it does that when you login to their service [18:58] SomeH4x0r auto-update feature is not good in general [18:58] SomeH4x0r a lot because of updates often having malicious features [18:59] bnchs sony still makes updates to the playstation 3 [18:59] SomeH4x0r but the user's choice must matter too [18:59] bnchs it's usually to break CFW compatbility [18:59] MinceR (cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/weekend-random-randomness-1-29-22-31.jpg ● Feb 14 [19:00] Alternative link Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/weekend-random-randomness-1-29-22-31.jpg [19:01] bnchs i got console-banned from sony's PSN anyway [19:01] bnchs for having a modded console [19:08] *bnchs__ (~bnchs@humc2nu33vbyy.irc) has joined #techrights [19:09] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:17] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #techrights [19:24] psydroid2 I would be proud of that [19:33] *bnchs__ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:34] *bnchs (~bnchs@humc2nu33vbyy.irc) has joined #techrights [19:35] bnchs i mean there are PS3 private network servers (just like how theres one for the Nintendo Wii or DS) [19:39] psydroid2 PS3 was the last console I was mildly interested in because of the ability to run GNU/Linux on it [19:39] psydroid2 but I've never owned a console [19:40] psydroid2 paying for (the "right" to play) those games should be enough [19:43] schestowitz downtime: https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share#monthly-200901-202101 [19:43] Alternative link Cloudflare: statcounter.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share#monthly-200901-202101 [19:43] schestowitz nd clownflare useless [19:43] TR Bot ( status 522 @ https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share#monthly-200901-202101 ) [19:49] schestowitz the full video is online now http://techrights.org/2022/02/14/goodbye-mcgovern/ [19:49] TR Bot Reprehensible GNOME Foundation Leadership Falls on Sword While Richard Stallman Returns | Techrights [19:50] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 16.71 k/sec., IPFS upstream 31.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 268.54 ● Feb 14 [20:27] bnchs sony removed that feature [20:27] bnchs but you can recover it with some custom firmware, and modified partition table [20:28] bnchs only works on PS3 fat and slim [20:30] bnchs GNOME is a joke, the "no thumbnails on filepicker" is now about 18 years old [20:31] bnchs GNOME is also racist with their code of conduct: "The GNOME community prioritizes marginalized people's safety over privileged people's comfort" [20:38] *techrights_guest|91 (~ae70816a@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [20:38] MinceR gtk filepicker also randomly forgets its own bookmarks [20:38] MinceR nbd [20:50] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [20:51] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [20:53] *immibis has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:55] *immibis has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [20:56] MinceR https://hugelolcdn.com/i/747471.jpg [20:56] Alternative link Cloudflare: hugelolcdn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hugelolcdn.com/i/747471.jpg [20:59] XRevan86 MinceR: One pespective on prohibition is that once the population is addicted it's almost impossible to un-addict it. ● Feb 14 [21:00] MinceR people have no difficulty becoming addicted to things that are illegal during the process [21:01] XRevan86 If there's a cultural insentive to do so. [21:03] bnchs yes like internet freedom [21:03] bnchs first make a social control media plan (like my MSP) [21:03] bnchs then slowly push it as more and more people use it [21:03] XRevan86 Just look at how PRC is doing. [21:03] bnchs and remove the internet plan [21:04] XRevan86 They never allowed the population to have Internet freedom :). [21:04] XRevan86 And so they just live without it as if that's normal. [21:04] bnchs my MSPs try to make this social control media plan [21:04] bnchs free unlimited plan that only costs 5dh [21:04] bnchs who would refuse it [21:04] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:04] XRevan86 Russia has similiar plans. [21:05] bnchs it's really a internet firewall [21:05] XRevan86 Making access to VK and Gosuslugi (Govservices) free. [21:05] bnchs really? [21:05] MinceR 14 220411 < XRevan86> And so they just live without it as if that's normal. [21:05] MinceR no, they don't. [21:05] MinceR https://www.quora.com/Can-we-use-Tor-in-China [21:05] Alternative link Cloudflare: quora.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.quora.com/Can-we-use-Tor-in-China [21:05] TR Bot we use Tor in China? - Quora [21:06] bnchs well they also paid their usual youtubers to shill the plan [21:06] bnchs "buy a recharge card, redeem it with *6, you get free social media forever" [21:06] XRevan86 bnchs: https://vedomosti.ru/media/articles/2022/01/26/906559-komissiya-pravitelstva-utverdila [21:06] TR Bot - [21:06] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [21:07] XRevan86 MinceR: Well, if ye put it that way [21:09] bnchs they start bundling this free social control media plan with internet plan [21:09] bnchs i mean they already do [21:11] bnchs these days, i ask people if they can share their internet real quick, and be disappointed to know that it's just a social control media plan [21:20] bnchs this week, they just made a whole plan around TikTok https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Dox-yP8Smv0 [21:20] TR Bot [ ] TikTok *5 - Invidious [21:41] *psydroid3 has quit (connection closed) [21:43] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [21:43] *bnchs__ (~bnchs@mpk47rsrr3k3q.irc) has joined #techrights [21:43] *immibis (~hexchat@acad4bt9wne9w.irc) has joined #techrights [21:43] *immibis (~hexchat@62.156.144.218) has joined #techrights [21:44] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:46] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/02/04/thats-technically-true-tweets/ [21:46] Alternative link Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/02/04/thats-technically-true-tweets/ [21:46] TR Bot I Mean, That's Technically True (40 Pics) [21:50] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 16.96 k/sec., IPFS upstream 30.70 average k/sec., average swarm size 268.61 [21:53] *inky_ (~inky@46.36.114.223) has joined #techrights [21:56] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [21:56] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@qiahibkh2iwka.irc) has joined #techrights ● Feb 14 [22:01] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [22:06] psydroid2 [22:06] psydroid2 to sell your soul to Tik Tok and Facebook [22:07] XRevan86 https://libredirect.github.io/ (inb4: #DeleteGitHub) [22:07] TR Bot LibRedirect [22:07] XRevan86 I like the extensiveness of the front-ends. [22:08] XRevan86 There are even more of them than I thought. [22:10] MinceR can it also redirect from an invidious instance to other invidious instances and youtube? [22:10] MinceR or from one nitter instance to others and to twitter? [22:13] XRevan86 MinceR: It does. [22:13] MinceR nice [22:14] MinceR does it work on chromium-related browsers? [22:14] bnchs__ i think they're gonna start making seperate plans for everything and discontinue internet plan [22:14] MinceR or without a browser? [22:14] MinceR bnchs__: finally they're getting rid of something that hurts them and fuck everyone else [22:15] XRevan86 MinceR: no [22:15] MinceR sad [22:15] MinceR i was starting to believe it could be useful for me [22:15] bnchs__ they already banned half of the internet (unintentionally due to ISP overblocking) in the Arab Spring [22:16] bnchs__ then they unbanned it [22:16] bnchs__ now they're just gonna leave the things that are "useful" to people (social media) and lock up all the rest [22:16] MinceR s/people/the state/ [22:16] MinceR FTFY [22:16] bnchs__ yeah [22:17] bnchs__ iirc they banned a CDN during arab spring, which many sites used [22:21] *AdmFubar1 (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has left #techrights (Leaving.) [22:23] SomeH4x0r /whois AdmFubar1 [22:24] SomeH4x0r I wonder if it is a bug, seeing such things sometimes [22:27] psydroid2 so what is internet like in Morocco? only social media? [22:28] psydroid2 unless you find some workaround, I guess [22:28] bnchs__ it works [22:28] bnchs__ they're still offering internet plan [22:28] bnchs__ but really they're starting to push these social media plans [22:29] psydroid2 I had only heard of something like this happening in Thailand or some other country in the vicinity [22:33] bnchs__ the video says 2,5 GB of tiktok for 10 DH, which is cheaper than 2,5 GB of internet for 25 DH [22:33] psydroid2 and there was quite some backlash when Reliance Jio had made a deal with Facebook in India [22:34] psydroid2 so that's "subsidised" internet [22:34] psydroid2 you pay with your private information [22:34] psydroid2 or data rather [22:40] bnchs__ they partnered up with a video game to introduce a pass for that video game [22:41] bnchs__ a "pass", you're paying for a pass to allow your device to make connections to certain servers (the video game's servers) [22:50] bnchs__ also they're doing some tricks to my connection, whenever i do something internet-intestive, they choke my connection until it drops [22:50] bnchs__ intensive* [22:51] activelow mobile internet? [22:52] bnchs__ no ADSL ● Feb 14 [23:06] psydroid2 so we basically come back to the point of politics, as always [23:06] *AdmFubar1 (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has joined #techrights [23:10] *verbose has quit (Quit: WeeChat 3.0) [23:22] bnchs__ moroccans rely too much on facebook [23:22] bnchs__ even when they get censored [23:22] bnchs__ they resort to workaround such as misspelling some of the forbidden words [23:24] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [23:26] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:27] activelow not helpful, text-processing algorithms do not match words, it is stems/tokens wich are matched [23:28] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@7hnksqkvhrvj2.irc) has joined #techrights [23:28] bnchs__ the social (control) media plan also locks them in [23:28] bnchs__ since they can't pay for a internet plan [23:28] bnchs__ nor a website [23:28] activelow such as censored is stored in the index as { 'cen', 'ens', 'nso', 'sor' ...} and matching a mis-spelled word equally tokenized has a close proximity [23:30] *psydroid9 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:31] *psydroid8 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techrights [23:31] activelow try for yourself with any search engine, such as (c-ensorr ship); with ddg it instantly matches against censorship highly ranked, as is it should i might add [23:33] bnchs__ well they never learn [23:34] bnchs__ i thinking that the ISP is deliberately locking them into social media (like a herd of sheep entering a fence) [23:34] bnchs__ so that they can control them easily [23:42] psydroid8 and people are too gullible to stand up to such abuse? [23:42] psydroid8 or don't Moroccans do that in general? [23:43] bnchs__ they did only against the vaccine mandates [23:43] bnchs__ which was heavily censored and not covered on TV [23:45] bnchs__ sometimes they don't stand up at all [23:49] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 16.75 k/sec., IPFS upstream 45.55 average k/sec., average swarm size 268.66 [23:53] psydroid8 I'll have to go there myself some time [23:54] psydroid8 some of my good friends are Moroccans, even though they don't live there (anymore) [23:55] bnchs__ nah don't [23:55] bnchs__ it's not worth going there [23:57] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/weekend-random-randomness-1-29-22-3.jpg [23:57] Alternative link Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/weekend-random-randomness-1-29-22-3.jpg [23:57] psydroid8 it was easier before the pandemic [23:57] psydroid8 I'll see what I'll do [23:57] psydroid8 first I need to learn more Arabic [23:58] psydroid8 although I could manage with French [23:58] bnchs__ there's a reason they don't live there anymore [23:58] psydroid8 I know [23:59] psydroid8 I have former colleagues and friends from all over North Africa, so it was always one of my wishes to go and see those places