●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, May 14, 2022 ●● ● May 14 [00:00] matey s/compare/compete/ [00:00] schestowitz https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20220116121253 [00:00] TR Bot LibreSSL update [00:00] schestowitz january [00:00] matey ok [00:00] schestowitz https://www.mail-archive.com/announce@openbsd.org/msg00419.html [00:00] TR Bot LibreSSL 3.5.0 Released [00:00] schestowitz https://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20220318065203 [00:00] TR Bot LibreSSL 3.5.1 development branch as well as 3.4.3 (stable) and 3.3.6 released [00:00] schestowitz https://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20220301063844 [00:00] TR Bot LibreSSL 3.5.0 development branch released [00:00] schestowitz https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20220424111345 [00:00] TR Bot LibreSSL 3.5.2 released [00:01] matey nothing here points to libressl dying, on the contrary [00:01] matey it seems to have "died" in 2021 but isnt dead in 2022 [00:01] schestowitz-TR maybe only in gnu/linux distros, but I recall something [00:01] schestowitz-TR about the state of the project being dire [00:02] matey maybe only in gnu/linux distros <- this is what i think [00:02] matey gnu/linux abandoned it [00:02] matey i may even recall hearing about it [00:02] matey who knows, maybe theyll abandon c too [00:02] schestowitz-TR I'll ask an openbsd user [00:02] matey full c++ and rust, activelow will love it [00:02] schestowitz-TR who might know [00:02] matey mincer might know [00:02] activelow matey: already happened [00:02] matey activelow: fair enough [00:03] activelow if the compilers are f****, then the entire distro is [00:03] matey i think hes exaggerating, but thats ok [00:03] schestowitz-TR Linux: we tRUST Microsoft [00:03] schestowitz-TR Linux: we tRUST GitHub [00:03] activelow including kernel [00:03] matey if the compilers are f****, then the entire distro is <- i can sort of sympthise with that [00:03] MinceR i don't know [00:04] schestowitz-TR they called their OWN prohect "RUST" [00:04] schestowitz-TR take a clue ;-) [00:04] matey reminds me of kindle [00:04] schestowitz-TR you know how rust forms [00:04] schestowitz-TR and why [00:04] matey i stopped doing business with amazon when they ANNOUNCED the kindle [00:04] schestowitz-TR it's like when NSA uses octpus logos for its projects [00:04] schestowitz-TR as if to make fun of itself [00:04] schestowitz-TR or provoke us [00:04] matey well, rust (the programming language) actually forms the opposite way [00:05] matey from cutting off the oxygen to projects [00:05] matey not from oxidation [00:05] matey it smothers them in bloat and nazi-like mysticism [00:05] matey theres a link i saw in irc, about rust mysticism (rusticism) [00:05] schestowitz-TR "Congratulations to Rust for its first (but not its last) supply-chain attack this week! They join a growing club of broken-by-design package managers which publish packages uploaded by vendors directly" https://drewdevault.com/2022/05/12/Supply-chain-when-will-we-learn.html [00:06] TR Bot When will we learn? [00:06] matey w00t [00:06] schestowitz-TR brb coffee on perculator [00:06] schestowitz-TR *col [00:09] matey https://github.com/mTvare6/hello-world.rs <- one of the funniest things youll ever find on github [00:09] TR Bot - mTvare6/hello-world.rs: Memory safe, blazing fast, configurable, minimal hello world written in rust() in a few lines of code with few(1092) dependencies [00:09] matey i think i found it via this channel [00:09] matey "This project is very minimal, it only requires 1092 crates" [00:10] matey blame brian kernighan, he made this possible :) [00:10] matey the father of "hello world" but here its used as (informative) satire [00:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights [00:10] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 23.68 k/sec., IPFS upstream 9.61 average k/sec., average swarm size 542.28 [00:10] matey To compile this project you need only one library [00:11] bnchs matey: lol [00:11] bnchs check the issues tab [00:11] bnchs tons of security vulnerabilites related to those crates [00:11] matey BAHAHA [00:11] matey Message rejected for containing invalid UTF-8 [00:11] MinceR a library full of data storage devices with libraries on them? [00:11] activelow found some more today... story surrounding bash/perl/python, where and how this creeped into... there's some interdependencies again [00:11] matey all hail unicode, god of the plaintext underworld! [00:12] activelow let's see what remains, without bash [00:12] matey 1. cairo development libraries .1. libgtk development libraries .1. alsa-lib 1. glfw 1. freetype 1. libglib 1. pango 1. atk 1. pixbuf 1. gdk Just 1 lib as you can see the number list along the names [00:12] matey #techrights : 05/13/22 23:11 1. cairo development libraries .1. libgtk development libraries .1. alsa-lib 1. glfw 1. freetype 1. libglib 1. pango 1. atk 1. pixbuf 1. gdk Just 1 lib as you can see the number list along the names [00:12] bnchs 1. libgcm [00:12] bnchs 2. libio [00:12] bnchs 3. libsnd [00:12] bnchs all you need [00:13] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=YkgfmWfJ11s [00:13] TR Bot Air - All I Need - New Video! - Invidious [00:14] matey rust, rust hurry hurry lover run to me [00:14] matey ill compile, all compile you all through me [00:14] matey ooh what you do to me [00:14] matey /me casts keanu for the sequel [00:14] matey it makes so much more sense now that hes been in the matrix [00:15] matey im pretty sure that video was part of the franchise [00:15] matey the oracle was disgused as paula abdul [00:15] activelow currently, /bin/ping isn't available anymore, without python/meson... imagine this [00:15] matey s/disguised/disgusted/ [00:15] MinceR lol [00:15] matey :> [00:16] matey /bin/ping isn't available anymore, without python/meson... imagine this <- this is what i mean [00:16] matey i mean ive said things like that [00:16] matey how python is somewhat integral to gnu now [00:16] TR News Linux Foundation is, in a nutshell, suits and nontechnical people exercising totalitarian control an authority over technical people, using capital as a weapon [00:16] matey (github) [00:16] activelow pythone-meson is fully wiped already, and iputils packages containing /bin/ping is easily replaced [00:17] matey but what i never claimed to have the skills for [00:17] matey is to build gnu to see if it REALLY needed python or not [00:17] matey only it gets pulled in by any effort to build afaik [00:17] activelow can't grasp the wisdom of this, to fist python/meson into the base system [00:17] matey build-time dependencies [00:17] matey i can [00:17] matey its all bullshit [00:17] matey its fucking bullshit, really [00:18] matey this is what happens when "anything goes" [00:18] matey when anything goes, everything goes [00:18] matey and everything is gone [00:18] activelow Vim, seems to do some things, with bash, insisting on it... why? [00:18] activelow nvi is removed from gentoo tree (pulled it back into overlay here), elvis got no unicode [00:18] matey freedom 0, which i would not get rid of [00:18] matey includes the freedom to nuke yourself in the foot [00:19] matey which gnu has demonstrated as beautifully as one can [00:19] matey i would not get rid of that freedom [00:19] matey but i would still advise people not to exercise it [00:19] matey just because youre free to nuke yourself in the foot doesnt actually make it a good idea [00:20] icu it makes sence to prevent drafting [00:20] activelow i _must_ remove gentoo; yet for this, i need to wipe gcc, because i do not want to maintain crosscompilers for gcc without gentoo-tooling, and gcc is what it is [00:20] matey gccpythonmesongithubibm [00:20] activelow with a fast and simple compiler/linker/ar/as ... maintainence would be much easier, and much fun to hack [00:21] matey gnu is on the verge of apple-level stupidity here [00:21] activelow matey: the fact competent and intelligent programmers funded with alot of cash wasting millions of man power... this makes it worse [00:22] TR News SMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAART... FIRE!!! IN ZA HOLL!!! What makes it "smart"? Bezos spying on your home? https://www.maketecheasier.com/deal/insignia-f20-smart-fire-tv/ [00:22] TR Bot Get an Insignia 24" Class F20 Series Smart Fire TV for Under $100 - Make Tech Easier [00:22] matey yeah, they had help [00:22] matey apple can take a brilliant os and turn it into sludge, why cant we? [00:22] matey oh wait, hold my beer [00:22] activelow since you mentioned libressl, this is another problem, because _some_ packages must be updated, and often create nasty dependency graphs [00:22] matey im not worried about libressl [00:22] activelow (reminds my of python cryptography which they tried to attack with rustification) [00:23] matey not every step to the perfect os needs to be taken at the same time [00:23] matey its not possible and might be less perfect [00:23] *horseface__ (~goosestepping@x2hqxfjyhaw28.irc) has joined #techrights [00:23] matey though saying "enough is enough" is more than fair [00:23] matey what python crypto was attacked with rust? [00:23] *horseface__ has quit (Quit: Ping timeout: Over 9000!!!) [00:24] *goosestepping_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:24] matey im not aware of rust being used in python, is that what python 3 brings us now? [00:24] activelow i am not joking, when saying baphometos is one of the very few "free software" distributions remaining [00:24] matey you know if they add rust to cpython [00:24] matey that makes it crpython [00:24] *goosestepping_ (~goosestepping@x2hqxfjyhaw28.irc) has joined #techrights [00:24] matey ada is more secure than rust [00:25] matey then it can be CRAPython [00:25] activelow ideally there wouldn't be many more build time dependencies, than a sane and efficient C compiler, bash, make, and a posix compliant shell [00:26] matey /me covers his eyes and goes to the github page for cpython [00:26] TR News The final release of Fedora 36 should launch the distribution to the top of the "best of" charts. http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164681#comment-33663 [00:26] TR Bot Fedora Linux 36 Is Here with GNOME 42, Linux Kernel 5.17, and Wayland for NVIDIA Users | Tux Machines [00:26] matey https://github.com/python/cpython [00:26] TR Bot - python/cpython: The Python programming language [00:26] activelow dmux desktop environment won't require much morethan this: c+bash+make, and a clean vi editor [00:26] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/22051339 [00:26] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/8qzcrfwg0oy81.jpg created on 2022-05-13 16:48:01.615092 [00:27] TR News "The fan-made PC port of The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, Ship of Harkinian now supports 60fps, GNU/Linux and more." https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/zelda-ocarina-of-times-pc-port-now-supports-60fps-save-states-linux-and-more/ [00:27] TR Bot Zelda: Ocarina of Times PC port now supports 60fps, save states, Linux and more | VGC [00:27] activelow in worst case, i could live with bsd nvi editor... it can handle unicode, although it's limited, doesn't screw things up [00:27] schestowitz-TR the microsoft media defines it differently [00:27] matey Python 65.6% = C 32.3% | C++ 0.6% | M4 0.4% | HTML 0.4% | Batchfile 0.2% | Other (cat) 0.5% [00:27] schestowitz-TR if crackers write something in go [00:28] schestowitz-TR than golang is not secure [00:28] schestowitz-TR they redefined the whole thing [00:28] schestowitz-TR for their FUD agenda [00:28] matey lol "batchfile" [00:28] matey MUMPS: 0.1% [00:28] activelow i wiped golang, the distfiles folder of this, how this looked like, was reason enough to do so [00:28] matey COBOL: 0.05% [00:29] activelow simply check some gentoo distfile mirror and see for yourself, the beauty of how golang distributes their drugs to kids [00:29] matey parents who use rust, have kids who use rust [00:29] activelow if i had kids, and they showed interest in computers, i would begin with some BASIC programming [00:29] matey r.a.r.e rust abuse resistance education [00:30] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:30] matey critics say its just a retirement programme for c coders [00:30] matey if i had kids, and they showed interest in computers, i would begin with some BASIC programming <- better than javascript [00:31] *goosestepping_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:31] matey if crackers write something in go than golang is not secure <- hehehehe [00:31] matey secure languages dont let you write malware :) [00:32] activelow again, it's the modern compiler features which rust benefits from, not the language itself [00:32] matey who needs to delete or format anything anyway [00:32] matey when the drive is full, just buy a new one [00:32] activelow and those compiler features are available to other c++ clones alike [00:33] MinceR sounds like the only secure language is SIMPLE [00:33] MinceR (Sheer Idiot's Monopurpose Programming Language Environment) [00:33] TR News LOL. Akademy invites me to the event... USING a 1) MICROSOFT 2) PROPRIETARY 3) SPYING platform. Come on, folks... it's like shooting your own foot thrice. [00:33] activelow "secure language" is missing a precise definition, it's marketing [00:34] activelow openbsd implemented and integrated modern memory protection features decades ago already, linux too [00:34] activelow with C [00:34] activelow and asm [00:34] mjg59_ "Memory safe" has a clear definition and it's not one that can be achieved in C [00:35] matey yes well, youre a notorious fan of self-serving technologies with "security" in the name [00:35] mjg59_ Rust's guarantees aren't a result of compiler features, they're a result of language design [00:35] activelow mjg59_: sure, because it isn't achieved in C, it is not a language feature, it is compiler/operating-system/hardware features [00:35] matey (self-serving for the corporations that develop them) [00:35] mjg59_ activelow: No, you're simply wrong here [00:35] MinceR does "memory safe" apply to what you do inside an emulated computer? [00:35] TR News People who use KDE want to get AWAY from Microsoft. That's why KDE on Windows (~2006) never took off and KDE software on Linux is nothing (the Windows Store telemetry confirmed this). Stop believing Microsoft-bribed media. Microsoft does not love Linux and almost nobody uses WSL. It was a failure. The marketing budget has run out, too. [00:36] mjg59_ MinceR: If the emulated computer is one that emulates things like hardware bounds checking, sure [00:36] matey "its not a feature, its a design" [00:36] matey "ohh" [00:36] matey its a design, not a bug [00:36] mjg59_ activelow: Where is the hardware feature that stops me writing to byte 2049 of a 2048 byte array in C? [00:36] MinceR sounds like you get to pick at most 1 of "Turing-complete" and "memory safe" [00:36] MinceR i know which one i picked. [00:37] bnchs "memory safety in impossible in C, because... because..." [00:37] bnchs "JUST USE RUST ALREADY!!!" [00:37] matey /me cries laughing [00:37] TR News Bruce Schneier still getting his "info" from Conde Nast, a longtime Microsoft propaganda partner :/ https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/05/friday-squid-blogging-squidmobile.html [00:37] TR Bot Squid Blogging: Squidmobile - Schneier on Security [00:37] mjg59_ If you have a memory-safe C derivative you no longer have C [00:37] *forkbombe (~forkbombe@u89vdyv4abg8n.irc) has joined #techrights [00:38] mjg59_ There's simply no way to avoid double frees - the compiler has no concept of what's happening there [00:38] activelow mjg59_: depends, it is not that simple; if your write() touches a memory region marked as RO|X then this will trigger some fault in the mmu, which kernel may or may not catch and enforce policies for [00:38] mjg59_ activelow: Why would that region be marked RO|X? [00:38] TR News A buzzwords mix-n-match https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/5-things-sres-and-sysadmins-should-know-about-rosa-and-cloud-services [00:38] TR Bot 5 things SREs and Sysadmins should know about ROSA and cloud services [00:38] activelow mjg59_: if this illegal write() touches a stack canary, then it is a compiler extension (SSP) which kicks in [00:38] mjg59_ If I've malloc()ed something smaller than a page then there's no way to mark the area immediately after it with different protection bits [00:39] MinceR if you can write an x86 emulator in Rust, then Rust is not "memory safe" [00:39] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=mLPIrcMmCl8 [00:39] TR Bot The Ending Scene From The Changeling - Invidious [00:39] MinceR because you can run unsafe x86 machine code on it that does "bad" things [00:39] activelow mjg59_: and another measure is libc functions such as strlncpy which dmeand a length parameter etc. [00:39] schestowitz-TR rust is lots of hype and marketing [00:39] matey mincer: but they can never escape [00:39] schestowitz-TR even its own core people threw in the towel [00:39] bnchs saying that "memory safety is unachievable in C" is absoulutely bullshit [00:39] MinceR that wasn't a criterion [00:39] schestowitz-TR and now we hear of rust security issues every monh [00:39] MinceR also, some of the "memory unsafe" things also don't "escape" [00:39] mjg59_ activelow: If I have a 2048 byte buffer on the stack, immediately followed by another 2048 byte buffer, how do you prevent a write to the first buffer overflowing into the second? [00:39] schestowitz-TR putting aside the breach that is outsourcing to Microsoft/NSA [00:40] schestowitz-TR and then SILENCING their critics! [00:40] MinceR for example, you could corrupt one of your objects in memory by accessing another object improperly [00:40] bnchs mjg59_, write better code [00:40] mjg59_ bnchs: How do you prevent double free()s in C? [00:40] matey mincer: if you run a browser in an emulator thats memory safe [00:40] bnchs check if object is NULL [00:40] schestowitz-TR Security[ n.]: protecting oneself from one's critics [00:40] matey the internet can never touch anything important to you [00:40] bnchs if you're freeing it, set the pointer to NULL [00:40] mjg59_ bnchs: People have been trying that for some time and yet we still have these bugs [00:40] activelow mjg59_: how does rust do it? it's irelevant if strlncpy() or any rust-equivalent set a policy [00:40] bnchs all you said can be avoided [00:40] schestowitz-TR memory safe: making sure people forgot your security blunders. People's memory span is limited. [00:40] matey rust eliminates an entire class of bugs forever [00:40] MinceR you could also allocate a large array of bytes and then just do the equivalent of raw memory access and management in it, including buffer overflows [00:41] activelow and it can be done with both: C or Rust [00:41] matey yes but the buffers will overflow SAFELY [00:41] matey be sure to make all your buffer overflows look like happy little overflows [00:41] activelow mjg59_: the problem i see is another one, for example, Kernel and Hardware (intel) boast about NX bit, yet no sufficient policies are enforced for this by default [00:41] MinceR what if you store a value that decides what your program does next right after the array you overflow and overwrite it? [00:41] icu and c doesnt have garfage colector [00:41] bnchs all of your bugs can be fixed with a simple valgrind [00:42] MinceR what about the Boehm GC? [00:42] schestowitz-TR bnchs: they don't trach that in college [00:42] schestowitz-TR not they teach "javascript" [00:42] MinceR what about garbage collected languages implemented in terms of C, like CHICKEN Scheme? [00:42] matey if a buffer overflow happens on the internet, and the internet is down because of clownflare, does it make a vulnerability? [00:42] schestowitz-TR and "stack" [00:42] schestowitz-TR (web) [00:42] matey clownflare: memory safeing your internets! [00:42] activelow mjg59_: if you want i got some patchset here, forward-ported some W^X policy enforcement for amd64 to latest kernel (since grsecurity dropped support, and some other patchset wasn't maintained anymore, i did pick them up yet have no interest in x86/amd64 anymore) [00:43] bnchs if you check the rust hello world example, you find tons of security vulnerabilites in the issues tab [00:43] matey rust is everything w^x wants to be when it grows up [00:43] MinceR lol [00:43] bnchs related to shit like "regex" [00:43] activelow mjg59_: let me ask instead, why does linux kernel not enforce sufficient policies for this? [00:43] MinceR i didn't know w^x wanted to include a bunch of supply chain attacks [00:43] matey SAFE supply chain attacks! [00:43] MinceR lol [00:43] MinceR not really [00:43] mjg59_ activelow: What do you mean by "sufficient policies"? [00:43] matey yes, if you create a supply chain attack in rust, it cant do anything [00:44] MinceR also, there are unsafe blocks in rust and you can do "bad" things in them [00:44] MinceR so, again, Rust isn't "memory safe" [00:44] activelow mjg59_: another question, why was it possible to enforce _full_ w^x policies on firefox 3.6.28 (javascript interpreter), and why isn't this possible anymore with any of the latest rustified javascript from moz? [00:44] TR News "It was a bleeding-edge operating system, which meant it shipped with all the newest software." systemd is bleeeeeeding allllwwwight https://www.zdnet.com/article/fedora-36-is-one-of-the-best-options-for-new-linux-users/ [00:44] TR Bot 36 is one of the best options for new Linux users | ZDNet [00:44] activelow mjg59_: mprotect() [00:44] matey those bad things only happen to the hello world crates [00:44] matey dont implement hello world and youll be fine [00:44] activelow and some others [00:44] MinceR lol [00:44] mjg59_ activelow: You can mprotect() code to NX [00:45] TR News Corporate media: every systemd bug is "Linux" hole. Linus: wait, did anyone ask me???? systemd is not my project! [00:45] matey seriously people, stop writing to stdio, its insecure [00:45] MinceR to be fair, Linux isn't his project anymore either :> [00:45] bnchs dude stop using rust regex [00:45] bnchs it's INSECURE [00:45] MinceR yeah, I/O is unsafe [00:45] bnchs stop using stdio, insecure [00:45] matey theres rust in my peanut butter [00:45] matey theres peanut butter in my rust [00:45] bnchs stop using string libraries [00:45] schestowitz-TR eww [00:45] activelow mjg59_: sure, yet kernel does _not_ enforce policies; to deny mprotect(R|W|X) [00:46] schestowitz-TR matey: leaded rust? [00:46] matey no, super unleaded [00:46] schestowitz-TR flint experiment shows that's not suitable for eating [00:46] mjg59_ activelow: Right, because otherwise you can't write a JIT [00:46] matey its only got a bit of arsenic [00:46] mjg59_ (Or you can, but with some amount of performance overhead) [00:46] MinceR Rust with Tetanus [00:46] activelow and concerning this minor detail, the latest rustified mozilla javascript engines are notworthy too, it is _less_ secure, _less_ memory safe than firefox 3.6.28 was (the last one i tested) [00:46] matey rust + clownflare = rusty the clown [00:46] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:46] icu Rust is Metal aged [00:46] MinceR Rusty Trombone [00:47] schestowitz-TR matey: you can't say Tetanus without.. [00:47] schestowitz-TR never mind [00:47] MinceR :> [00:47] matey arsehole? [00:47] activelow mjg59_: JIT does _not_ need unprotected memory down to system level [00:47] mjg59_ activelow: ? [00:47] matey rustanus [00:47] icu isnt metal apple stuff? [00:47] matey what robots get when you make them memory safe [00:47] MinceR i hope not [00:48] icu its grafics driver for osx? [00:48] activelow yet, mozilla/rust/mapple decided the wanted to, and say it is "memory safe" now... that's why all the "innovations", to apply runtime-diagnosts and forensics gibberish, injected by the compiler [00:48] matey you just need preparation-c [00:48] TR News Public Knowledge Applauds NTIAs Internet for All Roadmap To Help Close Digital Divide - Public Knowledge https://publicknowledge.org/public-knowledge-applauds-ntias-internet-for-all-roadmap-to-help-close-digital-divide/ Source: publicknowledge [00:48] TR Bot Public Knowledge Applauds NTIAs Internet for All Roadmap To Help Close Digital Divide - Public Knowledge [00:48] MinceR even Java/Swing came with a Metal theme [00:48] activelow mjg59_: if at least w^x policies were enfoced, then i would listen [00:48] TR News GNU Linux Debian 11 (should also work for Ubuntu) compiling the latest kernel straight from kernel.org : (Linux/x86 5.17.7) https://dwaves.de/2022/05/13/gnu-linux-debian-11-should-also-work-for-ubuntu-compiling-the-latest-kernel-straight-from-kernel-org-linux-x86-5-17-7/ [00:48] TR Bot ( status 404 @ https://dwaves.de/2022/05/13/gnu-linux-debian-11-should-also-work-for-ubuntu-compiling-the-latest-kernel-straight-from-kernel-org-linux-x86-5-17-7/ ) [00:49] matey memory safe: the fictional repo george orwell wrote about where the party puts all the programs written in c [00:49] MinceR lol [00:49] matey "down the memory safe" [00:49] TR News "One of the greatest innovations of the 18th century came about in wartime and soon helped to enable the industrial revolution. And it involved a simple idea: Machines in which all the parts could be replaced with other, similar parts." https://tedium.co/2022/05/13/interchangeable-parts-right-to-repair-debate/ [00:49] TR Bot How Anti-Right-To-Repair Companies Try to Have it Both Ways [00:49] matey today its called the arctic fault [00:49] bnchs memory safe [00:50] bnchs today i had a memory unsafe event in my brain [00:50] bnchs apparently i tried to read something before my brain could load the data into it [00:50] icu there was protected mode in dos [00:50] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights [00:50] activelow last time i checked on gentoo.org website, all webbrowsers, written "memory safe" were labeled dark red, vulnerable... [00:50] bnchs and i ended up saying and shouting a bunch of bullshit [00:50] matey bnchs, thats just deja vu, it happens to everyone [00:51] activelow guess what, if i wanted to, pick up pyton2.7 again, and compile firefox 3.6.28, this one would be safe, without rust [00:51] icu DPMI [00:51] TR News Nvidia GPUs Are Starting To Embrace Linux More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164748#comment-33664 [00:51] TR Bot NVIDIA Releases Open-Source GPU Kernel Modules | Tux Machines [00:51] matey guess what, if i wanted to, pick up pyton2.7 again, and compile firefox 3.6.28, this one would be safe, without rust <- im not sure id go that far [00:51] icu https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protected_mode [00:51] TR Bot Protected mode - Wikipedia [00:51] MinceR DPMI wasn't protected mode, it was an interface to gain access to protected mode from V86 mode [00:51] activelow matey: i would [00:51] matey yes, you might [00:52] matey confucious say one who goes too far is far gone [00:52] activelow as far as "memory safety" is concerned, and firefox 3.6.28 javascript didn't have webassembly, so another good to go [00:52] schestowitz-TR [00:50] today i had a memory unsafe event in my brain [00:53] schestowitz-TR you should just crash [00:53] schestowitz-TR or pass out [00:53] schestowitz-TR to solve the issue [00:53] MinceR Confucius say: Man who make mistake in elevator, wrong on many levels. [00:53] matey hehehe [00:53] bnchs schestowitz-TR, nah it just segfaulted safety [00:53] schestowitz-TR man who fart in lift... [00:53] bnchs with a loud "FUCK!!!!!" [00:53] bnchs safely* [00:53] matey mincer: we need memory safe elevators [00:54] matey theyre insecure [00:54] MinceR those would never move [00:54] schestowitz-TR man who chases car gets tyred [00:54] MinceR moving an elevator car is i/o [00:54] MinceR Confucius say: Man who fart in church, sit in own pew. [00:54] bnchs fat guy who chases ice cream truck [00:54] bnchs gets what [00:54] matey i/o, i/o, ram to device we go [00:55] matey i/o, i/o i/o i/o [00:55] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2022/04/24/epo-gentlemen/ [00:55] TR Bot [Meme] Lukampinos | Techrights [00:55] MinceR EIEIO error code [00:55] schestowitz-TR Confucius say [00:56] schestowitz-TR bnchs: ousted as billG [00:58] activelow anyway, i must wipe the irc box soon, it is full of rubbish still [00:58] activelow ideally i can replace the irc client with suckless ii within dvtm or similar... not sure yet what's best [00:58] activelow anything which links against glib will be gone, and there is more on the hitlist of "free software" to cope with [00:59] activelow bashism sucks [00:59] TR News East European Free software dev diary... now in Barcelona https://blog.jabberhead.tk/2022/05/13/europe-trip-journal-entry-11-adios-amigas/ [00:59] TR Bot Europe Trip Journal Entry 11: Adis Amigas vanitasvitae's blog [00:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 25.60 k/sec., IPFS upstream 52.65 average k/sec., average swarm size 525.83 ● May 14 [01:00] TR News Apple... at the forefront.. STICKY NOTES! WOWOWOWOW. https://www.maketecheasier.com/best-sticky-note-apps-for-mac/ [01:00] TR Bot 5 of the Best Sticky Note Apps for Mac - Make Tech Easier [01:01] matey development without rust https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/Frank_and_Jesse_James_shooting_Capt._John_Sheets.jpg/800px-Frank_and_Jesse_James_shooting_Capt._John_Sheets.jpg [01:01] *bnchs has quit (Quit: Disappearing) [01:01] matey development with rust https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/babylon5/images/4/49/Minbar_01.JPG/revision/latest?cb=20080429231332 [01:02] MinceR rust makes development awfully blurry [01:02] TR News Apple fan to gnu/linux user: you need a MAC to get REAL WORK done. [starts scrolling down a facebook page] [01:02] matey thats because its memory safe and ad-supported [01:02] matey and jimbo wales left hand doesnt know what the right is doing [01:02] matey which is secure by design [01:03] MinceR that it is not [01:03] MinceR now, if neither of his hands were capable of doing anything at all, that would be the beginning of security [01:03] matey otherwise the right hand could be used in a side-channel attack against the left [01:03] MinceR by design, that is [01:03] matey well it depends on your threat model [01:04] matey for jimbo wales (and especially his army of pre-adolescent editors) one hand is more than enough to get you into trouble [01:04] schestowitz-TR "I'm a model" [01:04] schestowitz-TR "of a dinosaur?" [01:04] MinceR if your threat model is someone getting something done, the known definition of "memory safe" certainly helps against that threat [01:04] schestowitz-TR "no, I'm a threat model" [01:04] matey pfft, rust has never prevented people from getting something done [01:04] MinceR are even the rashist editors pre-adolescent? [01:04] matey its only slowed them down by an order of magnitude [01:05] MinceR that would be because rust is not "memory safe" [01:05] matey and brought projects that already worked to a hault [01:05] matey halt [01:05] activelow to answer the other question, if JIT is possible with W^X, yet it is. it is conceptually related to harvard architecture which separates code and data, correct me if i am wrong. [01:05] schestowitz-TR selinux 'security' [01:05] schestowitz-TR nag and nag [01:05] matey but PREVENTING work? no [01:05] MinceR SIMPLE is "memory safe", though [01:05] schestowitz-TR protect the user from wanting to do what the user wants to do [01:05] matey so is a rock [01:05] MinceR https://www.stwing.upenn.edu/~avm/humor/plang.html [01:05] TR Bot Programming Languages. [01:05] activelow another security gag, to re-think, floppy-disks (1.4MiB) got a switch, for READ-ONLY [01:05] MinceR indeed [01:05] schestowitz-TR while ignoring gaping hole in the OS of the makers of selinus [01:05] MinceR there's a Security Enhanced Linus Torvalds? [01:05] matey in the future everyone uses black monoliths for computing [01:06] matey theyre completely memory safe [01:06] icu linux SE [01:06] MinceR Second Edition? [01:06] matey rust will be oldschool by then, it will be replaced with onyx [01:06] MinceR nice [01:06] schestowitz-TR MinceR: stanards edition [01:06] MinceR Satanic Edition [01:06] matey their slogan will be [01:07] schestowitz-TR Ubuntu SE [01:07] schestowitz-TR ask jono bacon [01:07] MinceR UAC approved [01:07] matey "rust is memory safe, yes-- but onyx is memory SAFER" [01:07] icu if only they had rust to builf windows 95 [01:07] schestowitz-TR he threaetened them [01:07] schestowitz-TR some community [sic] manager [01:07] schestowitz-TR wannabe lawyer [01:07] XRevan86 https://yewtu.be/268zZqs-rvI [01:07] TR Bot Can Putin accept defeat? Russia's way out of the war. 04MAY2022 - Invidious [01:07] activelow since i cannot easily boot the ARM systems from CD-ROM (READ ONLY), i keep the rootfs inside a squashsf with some tiny scrambler to prevent weird things [01:07] MinceR he could just commit suicide [01:08] matey to attack a machine running rust, you need more than mere tempest [01:08] XRevan86 MinceR: No, that's a fairly realistic look. [01:08] MinceR his role model did the same [01:08] matey you need to build a cosmic ray emitter [01:08] schestowitz-TR won't happen, MinceR [01:08] activelow if something strange happens, i pull out the SD-Card, write a hashed/signed root.squashfs onto in a minute or two, and boot [01:08] schestowitz-TR matey: his role model risked capture by soviets [01:08] activelow baphometos got no installation procedure btw. [01:08] schestowitz-TR so he was past his peak anyway [01:08] schestowitz-TR wanted to quit on "a high" [01:08] icu Putin would accept defeat if they would let him win the judo gold at the olimpics [01:09] schestowitz-TR like john mccafee [01:09] activelow there isn't any "installation"... plug in sd-card, boot, ifconfig, irc, done. [01:09] MinceR i know, first NATO forces have to surround him while he's cowering in [01:09] MinceR and then he can finally fellate his handgun [01:10] activelow given the memory footprint, i estimate 64MiB RAM minimum for a useful system, and i'll crunch this down further [01:11] icu 64MiB RAM should be enough [01:11] MinceR ...for everyone [01:11] icu ask bill gates [01:12] activelow a TI89 got 2MiB ROM, and 256KiB RAM, give or take a few... and was useful, although not "free software" [01:13] activelow and this is the bare minimum, i need, with any linux free software, a programming language and some vector graphics (to plot data graphs etc.) [01:14] psydruid even if 64 MiB should be enough for everyone, 2-8 GiB is huge [01:14] schestowitz-TR how much ram does a do-nothing android proghram allocate? [01:14] matey and then he can finally fellate his handgun <- hopefully he fondles the magazine (anything can be a handgun, in the right hands) [01:15] psydruid so if the system doesn't run well with that, something seems to be wrong [01:15] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@669n4m4a364kn.irc) has joined #techrights [01:16] matey rust is a fine example of what openbsd devs would be like if openbsd was like red hat and debian [01:16] matey monkey bukkake: its memory safe, bitch! [01:17] DaemonFC Okay, so Mandy got his passport renewed and they said to expect it in 2-3 months. [01:17] DaemonFC His friend is such an idiot that she punched in our street address and took us to the wrong county because she didn't read where it was actually taking us. [01:17] DaemonFC And then she said she does that all the time. [01:17] matey (bunny bukkake sold separately) [01:18] matey *to the tune of baby beluga [01:22] DaemonFC I thought I was going to throw up. [01:22] DaemonFC Not only did she take us an hour in the wrong direction. [01:22] DaemonFC But she can't drive worth shit and pumps the accelerator back and forth and avoids the cruise control entirely. [01:22] activelow 64MiB is only a realistic minimum of RAM required with dmux+vi, with some sixel support, it's the most powerful IDE for maths and related [01:27] *koo5_ has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [01:29] DaemonFC I set up the dehumidifier to drain into the washing machine. [01:29] DaemonFC It should offset some of my laundry water and then that all gets purged down the drain anyway when that stage is done. [01:31] *koo5_ (~quassel@51.140.155.227) has joined #techrights [01:32] MinceR how much relative humidity do you get over there? [01:33] TR News Links 13/05/2022: NetworkManager 1.38 and Pseudo-Security | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/13/networkmanager-1-38/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/13/networkmanager-1-38/ [01:33] TR Bot Links 13/05/2022: NetworkManager 1.38 and Pseudo-Security | Techrights [01:34] TR News Shows: Linux Out Loud and Linux and Free Software News Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164827 [01:34] TR Bot Shows: Linux Out Loud and Linux and Free Software News | Tux Machines [01:34] TR News LF Helps Microsofts Proprietary Prison, Ship of Harkinian Ported to GNU/Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164828 [01:34] TR Bot LF Helps Microsoft's Proprietary Prison, Ship of Harkinian Ported to GNU/Linux | Tux Machines [01:34] TR News Software: Firefox Extensions, Julius, and Chatwoot Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164829 [01:34] TR Bot Software: Firefox Extensions, Julius, and Chatwoot | Tux Machines [01:34] DaemonFC how much relative humidity do you get over there? [01:34] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164830 [01:34] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [01:34] DaemonFC I got 12.5 liters by running it for a day and dumping it out manually a couple of times. [01:35] DaemonFC But that wouldn't account for it shutting off the condenser to prevent overflowing. [01:35] DaemonFC SO it may well be able to take out more if it's not interrupted. [01:35] DaemonFC It's rated 50 pints per day under the DoE method and the apartment hovers around 80-90% relative humidity. [01:36] MinceR ic [01:36] DaemonFC Naturally, though, it would remove more moisture at first until it gets the humidity down to a reasonable level, and then it would slow down. [01:37] DaemonFC So I'm guessing I'll get about 3-3.5 gallons out of it over the next 24 hours. [01:37] DaemonFC Then probably about 3 gallons over the next day. [01:37] DaemonFC And then about 2.5-2.75 gallons by the third day. 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[02:03] *goosestepping_ (~goosestepping@vdv9bearsrwvn.irc) has joined #techrights [02:04] *matey (~matey@phgdj3exxtdc4.irc) has joined #techrights [02:04] matey that worked well [02:18] *koo5_ has quit (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.) [02:19] *koo5_ (~quassel@51.140.155.227) has joined #techrights [02:23] *koo5_ has quit (Client Quit) [02:24] *koo5_ (~quassel@51.140.155.227) has joined #techrights [02:27] icu time to install windows11 [02:32] icu i font get the point of benchmarking with top hardware? [02:32] icu in low end hasdware thats were the difrence beomes more aparent [02:33] icu crazy world [02:33] icu RTX 3070 Gaming OC [02:34] icu not even 1% is going to have that shit [02:34] icu https://www.techspot.com/article/2278-windows-11-benchmark/ [02:34] TR Bot 11 vs. Windows 10 Performance: Gaming and Applications | TechSpot [02:35] *matey has quit (connection closed) [02:35] *matey (~matey@f4hzpuyyx2xdq.irc) has joined #techrights [02:37] icu if the pc market isnt going to have hardware comptitive with smartphones its going to die a swift death [02:37] icu at least in the consumer market [02:37] TR News Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-130522.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-130522.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-130522.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-130522.txt [02:37] TR Bot IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, May 13, 2022 [02:38] icu but let them think what they will [02:38] TR News Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. 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HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-130522.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-130522.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-130522.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-130522.txt [02:40] TR Bot IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, May 13, 2022 [02:41] TR News Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-05-13.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-05-13.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now) [02:45] icu https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/may/12/ebay-executive-guilty-boston-couple-harassment [02:45] TR Bot Ex-eBay exec pleads guilty to terrorizing couple with spiders and funeral wreaths | eBay | The Guardian [02:49] psydruid windows itself is bs [02:50] icu windows works good enough [02:50] psydruid it does [02:51] icu you need to tame it into submission [02:51] psydruid for killing people [02:51] psydruid yes, by wiping it instantly [02:51] icu wtf? [02:53] icu i dont know what thew fuck you mean [02:54] icu i love windows [02:54] icu ever since windows 95 [02:54] MinceR y tho [02:54] icu best OS ever [02:54] MinceR what's so good about it? [02:55] icu they have been ruining it alot [02:55] MinceR that's what makes it the best? [02:55] icu everything works [02:55] icu lots o9f programs [02:56] icu they ruined it after trying to become apple [02:56] MinceR https://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html [02:56] TR Bot Hyperbole and a Half: The Alot is Better Than You at Everything [02:56] MinceR i can't find a picture of the "ruining it alot" :( [02:57] icu ever since windows 8 [02:57] MinceR i guess i missed Backdoors 95 [02:57] MinceR the first version i used on my own hw was 98SE [02:57] icu 95 crashed ALOT [02:57] MinceR that already had wonderful features such as installing the monitor multiple times and have those instances conflict with each other [02:58] MinceR do you like crashes? [02:58] icu at that time only thing better was apple but it didnt have all the programs [02:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.71 k/sec., IPFS upstream 13.51 average k/sec., average swarm size 356.98 [02:59] icu 98SE didnt crashed much [02:59] MinceR yes it did ● May 14 [03:00] chicksahoy 98SE was trash, i liked win2k better [03:00] icu cause you didnt used it right [03:00] MinceR riiiiiiight [03:00] icu winxp was much better [03:00] MinceR using Backdoors right: don't let it boot in the first place [03:00] MinceR then it can't crash [03:00] icu you didnt had win95 [03:00] MinceR oh, it also trashed some VFAT partitions [03:00] MinceR on a whim [03:01] icu winxp had code red or what was it [03:01] MinceR Mountain Dew Code Red? [03:01] icu i got that shit thrown at me [03:01] chicksahoy lol [03:02] icu i fixed you had only like 1 minut before it rebooted [03:02] MinceR blaster was like that [03:02] icu after like a dozen reboots i got it working agian [03:02] icu maybe it was that one [03:03] icu i got it just after i 1st instaled it [03:03] icu weee new windows lets check that out [03:03] icu instant fail [03:03] icu LOL [03:04] icu i couldnt complai i didnt pay for it [03:05] matey it took forever to get me to go from windows 3.1 to 95 [03:05] matey from 3.0 was easy-- 3.0 still behaved like dos [03:05] icu windows 3.1 i never used it just lets keep to dos [03:05] matey if something went wrong, you never had to worry-- the machine would simply freeze. for some reason they didnt call it "memory safe mode" [03:06] matey 3,1 introduced the ginger-headed screen of death, which some people insist is blue [03:06] icu if i needed it you would type win [03:06] icu just like startx [03:06] matey its obviously a ginger in disguise, or no one could hate it so much [03:07] MinceR lol [03:07] matey originally, and not for very long, the so-called blue screen of death was very welcome [03:07] matey heres why [03:07] MinceR i don't think the color is the reason why people hate it [03:07] *koo5_ has quit (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.) [03:07] matey in a situation where the machine would definitely freeze. now it MIGHT [03:07] matey or, possibly, you would have a chance to save your work [03:08] icu maybe it was the color on peoples faces [03:08] MinceR also, i don't even mind gingers [03:08] matey then shut down, because obviously at that point [03:08] matey im very fond of karen gillan, so [03:08] matey and scottish accents in general [03:08] chicksahoy i remember the days of using trumpet winsock to get win3.1x onto the internet so i could use mIRC and Netscape [03:08] matey i tried [03:08] matey finally i just installed (from floppies) this package that my isp offered [03:09] icu you should always keep your windows cd handyt [03:09] icu i sure remeber that [03:09] matey and it allowed me to connect to my isp in windows 3.1 without knowing which runes and chants would make trumpet winsock work [03:09] matey no it was not aol. [03:09] matey id sooner use cans and string [03:09] icu i even had a windows cd costume made [03:10] IPFS Gemini requests since start of month: 172756 total Total number of pages in capsule: 40587 Active: active (running) since Mon 2022-02-07 16:50:38 GMT; 3 months 4 days ago [03:10] icu with norton tools or something [03:10] matey but anyway, after you see the bsod and maybe save your work [03:10] matey which dos trains you to do every 5 second anyway [03:10] icu also you should backup the registry [03:11] matey type type type CTRL S type type type CTRL S (enter) [03:11] IPFS IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 52 GB TotalOut: 11 GB [03:11] matey uptime still > 200 days here [03:12] IPFS New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled. [03:12] matey you had to shut down after a bsod [03:12] matey because after that you couldnt trust opening notepad to not freeze the system [03:12] matey or maybe moving an icon would do it [03:12] MinceR 14 040548 < matey> if something went wrong, you never had to worry-- the machine would simply freeze. for some reason they didnt call it "memory safe mode" [03:12] MinceR the buzzword wasn't invented yet, i guess [03:12] MinceR or wasn't popularized by the hipsters [03:13] matey it was basically russian roulette with ram at that point [03:13] icu how did you recover from BSOD? [03:13] MinceR reboot [03:13] matey oh we didnt trust reboot either [03:13] MinceR hopefully into a real OS [03:13] matey you could never be sure with reboot [03:13] matey nope, you had to shutdown [03:13] matey yes its harder on the power supply [03:13] matey but ram-wise, far more reliable. or something. [03:14] matey it also helped if you didnt look directly at the screen when you booted [03:14] matey who knows what could happen [03:14] matey or alternatively, you had to watch each step of the boot process [03:14] matey some of these things existed for sound reasons, and the others, who knows [03:14] matey couldnt hurt [03:15] MinceR you can't shutdown if you have a BSoD [03:15] icu i think MS it self coded blaster to fuck up piarates [03:15] matey oh thats right [03:15] IPFS QmYCG1uZdDgMXspdLbXDQngGQ4yhXE6HgWMFpDUPkCaRGd [03:15] IPFS New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above. [03:15] matey you had to ctrl alt del [03:15] matey but in general reboot was not to be trusted [03:15] matey i think i must have trusted it a little because i used it often enough [03:15] matey but i was told by sages not to [03:16] matey (i think maybe they were a little full of shit) [03:16] matey there was at some point, probably a less than magical reason for all that [03:16] matey /me shrugs [03:16] MinceR rebooting from a system that's running and can be shut down is discouraged [03:16] matey okay then [03:16] chicksahoy powering down was for a good reason, you wanted to reset all the hardware too [03:16] MinceR it can cause cache not being flushed and filesystem corruption, both of which can be avoided via a proper shutdown [03:17] matey with systemd it simply tempts fate [03:17] icu just the other month i had this thing in linux were it would only boot like after 3 trys [03:17] icu i read it was something to do with google [03:17] MinceR could be systemd [03:17] matey which like everything else about systemd, is an upstream problem and they simply cant be arsed [03:17] *goosestepping_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:18] icu it didt even reached systemd [03:18] icu it was something with grafics [03:18] chicksahoy icu: everyone here likes to blame systemd for everything [03:18] matey "im merely infallible laddie, it doesnt mean im god you know" [03:18] chicksahoy war un ukraine? systemd's fault [03:18] matey idiots who troll us with bullshit? systemds fault. [03:18] *matey has quit (connection closed) [03:18] icu its was some grafics file from google [03:19] *matey (~matey@ecz2t3b69tp9n.irc) has joined #techrights [03:19] icu i cant be sure but read other people having the problem [03:19] matey fixed [03:19] MinceR i meant the failure to boot, of course [03:19] icu the screen just whent to sleep [03:19] MinceR i would get a lot of booting to emergency prompt hidden on an inactive vc with ubunturd [03:19] matey people who defend systemd should kill themselves [03:19] MinceR thankfully not on my own hw [03:19] matey bill hicks [03:20] matey seriously, its a branch of marketing [03:20] icu it didnt even shou any text [03:20] matey he said it, not me [03:21] icu may system uses up 650 M after boot i blame systemd [03:22] icu i used linux that used like 150 m not that long ago [03:22] icu with x running [03:22] chicksahoy icu: what de [03:23] icu xfce [03:23] icu the same im using now [03:23] icu even KDE [03:23] chicksahoy im using fedora and gnome [03:23] icu before the plasma thing [03:24] icu thou KDE used ti sigterm error [03:24] icu or something like that [03:25] icu i cant only suspect its systemd [03:26] icu from arounf 150 m to 600 m is alot ram to gobble up [03:26] icu also it was 32 not 64 [03:26] icu so that surelly accounts for something [03:27] icu gnome the kinder garden DE [03:28] chicksahoy lol [03:28] chicksahoy as far as wayland support goes, its the least buggy de [03:29] icu oh look mom so many icons so litle text [03:30] icu so many unicorns [03:30] icu you got love how gnome makes this huge icons and tiny text below them [03:31] icu its like form over function [03:31] MinceR they'd prefer no text [03:31] MinceR maybe they'll get around to it one of these days [03:31] MinceR probably not before their beloved crApple does [03:31] MinceR idiocracy style! [03:31] icu and how they rename programs like TEST EDITOR [03:32] icu TEXT EDITOR is it emacs vi vim nano [03:32] MinceR none of those is "modern" [03:32] icu NVM you stupid user use the kinder garden one size fits all [03:32] MinceR then again, text editors aren't "modern" [03:32] MinceR text is scary [03:33] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:33] MinceR and you might end up writing a program with it [03:33] MinceR we can't have that [03:33] icu yes people might actually notice that you cant read [03:33] MinceR if you need a program, ibm/deadrat will code it into systemd [03:33] MinceR and you'll like it [03:33] matey happiness is mandatory [03:33] MinceR exactly [03:34] MinceR failure to be happy is treason [03:34] matey lower your shields and prepare to boarded [03:34] matey gentoo is futile [03:34] MinceR treason is punishable by summary execution [03:34] matey /me thinks gentoo makes one of the better cases for gnu/linux in the world, the only problem is linux, and probably gnu [03:35] icu i still remeber that computer for the 3th world nations [03:35] matey not that ive ever been able to use it [03:35] icu thats were modern gnome comefrom [03:35] matey the most common review is "i think its great, and i would use it if i could" [03:35] icu what was it called? [03:35] matey gentoo commands that sort of respect [03:36] matey "no i have no use for it at all. but its so good i wish i did." [03:39] icu https://olpc.com/pictures.html [03:39] TR Bot - One Laptop per Child - Pictures [03:39] icu thats what gnome is aiming at [03:40] matey elementary os is imploding [03:40] matey says lunduke, who you know is accurate [03:40] matey i knew flatpak was bloated of course, but i didnt know it had enough mass to make a distro implode [03:41] matey i did think elementary sucked enough though [03:41] matey so its sort of been imploding from the beginning [03:41] icu elementary is the apple look a like [03:41] matey supposedly everything is systemds fault [03:41] matey but even if elementary os didnt have it [03:42] matey it honestly would still really suck [03:42] matey so im going to go out on a limb and say this is one we cant (entirely) blame systemd for [03:42] icu its imploding because they didnt use sytemd [03:42] matey its not like you HAVE TO add systemd to make your distro suck [03:42] icu wich is ofcourse systemfd fault [03:42] matey people are just lazy and like a trusted solution for that [03:43] matey elementary used several layers of things that suck, it didnt just rely on some cookie-cutter package for it [03:43] icu you cant have a distro with out systemd its a FACT [03:43] matey it even had mono for fucks sake [03:45] icu linux people just dont have the taste to use an apple inspired gui [03:45] icu fringe people [03:46] icu their not cultivated enough to understand aple finess [03:46] psydruid tristesse, you mean? [03:47] icu https://etcherpc.com/top-linux-distros-like-macos/ [03:47] TR Bot Top 5 Linux Distros That Look Like MacOS | Etcher [03:48] psydruid macOS's best feature is being buggy and slow [03:48] icu cant they not understand that colsing windows on the right side its the natural thing to do what are they english? [03:50] matey its never the ones that actually should [03:50] icu macs looked alot better in 1995 [03:50] icu what was windows 95 donne right [03:50] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights [03:50] matey for some reason, when people who use windows are curious about alternatives [03:51] matey their first question is "why should i use this piece of shit?" [03:51] psydruid what was done right with windows 95 [03:51] matey why were you curious-- and if not, why are you bothering people?" [03:51] icu macs [03:51] icu that / what [03:52] matey /me is definitely in more of a "fuck you, read a fucking book" mood [03:52] matey learn things, be less stupid [03:52] matey or whatever, i dont fucking care [03:53] psydruid why glorify two piece-of-shit operating systems from the 80s and 90s [03:53] icu matey has kindred spirit [03:54] matey because, tada, its what theyre used to [03:54] icu why glorify two piece-of-shit operating systems from the 2010s and 2020s [03:55] icu unix is even older [03:55] icu LOL [03:55] icu the father of linux [03:55] icu that mainframe for you [03:55] matey and why ask real questions when you can pretend? [03:56] icu maxs had good hardware good screens [03:56] icu retina display heh [03:57] icu i did like that [03:57] psydruid Unix didn't crash every 5 seconds by the 90s [03:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 18.96 k/sec., IPFS upstream 23.15 average k/sec., average swarm size 366.61 [03:59] icu now its 4k 120 hz and still look like shit [03:59] icu mac was pixel perfect [03:59] icu no font somthing crap ● May 14 [04:00] psydruid and then you look in the mirror and what you see also still looks like shit [04:00] psydruid some things just never change [04:01] icu that fuck you want? [04:01] psydruid I don't want that fuck, you can have it [04:02] icu LOL [04:02] icu piece of shit hacker [04:02] icu you my fan boi? [04:03] matey if this sort of thing keeps up, mincer wont have to say anything anymore except "no u" [04:04] MinceR lol [04:04] matey me, im simply wielding egrep -v until none of this has any context [04:04] matey but its more enjoyable that way [04:05] MinceR lol [04:05] matey theres no troll problem [04:06] matey not with regexes [04:06] matey its funny how much of this is directly related to a very old video game [04:07] matey then again thats appropriate, given that i wasnt talking about spacewar, but-- maybe its karma [04:07] matey this is more like lunar lander anyway [04:08] matey you only have so much energy, you spend it on bullshit, then the whole thing crashes and burns [04:09] matey shit, i just thought of a question for buzz aldrin [04:09] matey "have you played lunar lander-- and it is harder or easier than the real thing?" [04:10] psydruid if I hadn't slapt during the evening I wouldn't be awake right now [04:10] matey im glad i didnt think of that one. [04:10] matey plus im pretty sure its harder than the real thing [04:10] matey and i dont expect him to admit it [04:10] *AdmFubar has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [04:13] icu idiots [04:15] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:15] *asusbox has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:16] psydruid [04:17] icu heil putins [04:17] icu internet putins [04:18] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [04:18] icu LOL bunch of dictators wannabes [04:18] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [04:19] icu server masters of the world [04:20] icu you are going down with this stupid idiot world you created [04:20] icu the monkeys with too much "intelligence" for their own good [04:21] icu imbecils with an ego complex [04:22] icu the more they know the less they understand [04:22] icu FUCK YOU ALL [04:23] icu you wont have your way with me [04:24] matey its weird that people are too lazy to write, so they go to WAY more effort to do video [04:24] matey nonetheless this is where a lot of content has gone to, and why [04:25] matey some of it is useful [04:26] icu dont need to know how to write to do video [04:27] icu useful shit that whats were after [04:28] icu besides theres no copyrights on irc [04:30] matey oh god [04:30] matey theres a thing called fnaify [04:30] matey it lets you plan steam games on openbsd [04:31] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has joined #techrights [04:31] icu so openbsd actually has trojans [04:31] matey what next, activelow gets steam games running on an altair 8800 [04:31] icu assassins creed [04:32] icu very educational [04:32] matey /me is pretty sure fnaify isnt memory safe [04:33] icu thats a good thing [04:33] icu trojan work better that way [04:36] matey worse, mono [04:37] icu you should play games in stereo not mono [04:37] matey you can also (this is probably better) run atari 2600 games [04:39] DaemonFC I can't get over the Philippines using Frontpage 2000 for their government websites. [04:39] icu you mean moon lander? [04:39] DaemonFC Optimized for Internet Explorer 5? [04:41] DaemonFC https://nypost.com/2022/05/12/calling-men-bald-at-work-now-considered-sexual-harassment-in-the-uk/ [04:41] TR Bot Calling men 'bald' at work now considered sexual harassment in the UK [04:43] icu im not english but i fail to grasp what 'bald' has to do with sexuallity? [04:44] *goosestepping_ (~goosestepping@5jcujwvnbing8.irc) has joined #techrights [04:44] icu maybe someone can enlighten me [04:45] DaemonFC There was a question on the form if you've been out of state in the last 30 days and said if you've been to an "orange" state as defined by the CDC, then you were forbidden from going inside. [04:46] DaemonFC I said, "I guarantee you if they use Frontpage 2000 they're not tracking whether you've been out of the state. What "orange" means is just some bullshit coming out of some musty bureaucrat's office and I guarantee you if you make me go to Chicago and Indiana is on the Orange list this week, then I'm going to be fucking pissed.". [04:47] icu Calling women 'bald' on the other way its cause assault and battery [04:47] icu wtf is that related to anything? [04:49] icu Calling women 'bald' on the other way its cause for assault and battery in the usa [04:49] icu LOL [04:49] DaemonFC It could be discrimination under Illinois law. [04:50] DaemonFC The blacks passed a bill that makes discriminating against "hairstyles" a crime. [04:50] icu discrimination makes sense [04:50] DaemonFC Bald is a style of hair (no hair). [04:50] icu its a bit difrent [04:50] DaemonFC So then discriminating against someone for being bald violates the anti-hair discrimination law in Illinois. [04:51] icu you usual cal some one bald in a derogattorty way [04:51] DaemonFC The law makes it an offense to force someone to change their hairstyle to go to school or work. [04:51] DaemonFC Betcha that won't be abused. [04:51] icu its more like disablity [04:52] icu can you make fun of people with disability? [04:54] icu what i dont understand is what its got to do with sexuality? [04:55] icu if it was bald has in no pubic air might even make some sense [04:56] icu like who cares the world is ruled by a bunch of idiots anyway [04:56] icu no point trying to rationalize imbecilic reasoning [04:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 21.75 k/sec., IPFS upstream 15.35 average k/sec., average swarm size 407.48 ● May 14 [05:09] *goosestepping_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [05:14] *goosestepping_ (~goosestepping@5jcujwvnbing8.irc) has joined #techrights [05:19] *goosestepping_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [05:58] *matey has quit (connection closed) [05:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 21.38 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 409.75 ● May 14 [06:05] *icu has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [06:11] *goosestepping_ (~goosestepping@m2sp6a2bc6824.irc) has joined #techrights [06:29] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving) [06:30] *oarion7 has quit (Quit: Running IRC on a charmed medieval abacus.) [06:36] DaemonFC https://www.bobvila.com/articles/dehumidifier-water-uses/ [06:36] TR Bot 6 Smart Ways to Reuse Dehumidifier Water - Advice From Bob Vila [06:37] DaemonFC Bob Vila actually recommended what I thought of, with the repurposing dehumidifier water for car washes. [06:37] DaemonFC Only I just need a gallon or so each month to reconstitute my waterless car was concentrate. [06:38] DaemonFC A lot of the rest will drain into my washing maching basin. I finally set up the drainage hose from the dehumidifier to automatically purge the wastewater into that. [06:38] DaemonFC When I got a load of how much water that thing sucks out of the air, and what the city charges for water these days, I figured why not use it for something? [06:39] DaemonFC I hate the government. Use the hundred gallons or so of wastewater for other stuff then pour it down the drain. Even if it saves my landlord the $2 or so each month, at least it didn't go to the government. [06:40] DaemonFC Their latest outrage was tacking on a water surcharge to make people pay an assessment for a road that they are already collecting tolls on. [06:41] DaemonFC Nobody remembers, of course, but when the toll road went in, back in the 1950s, the government promised that it would pay for the road and then the toll booths would go away. [06:41] DaemonFC They only went away when the toll road figured out how to fire all of the toll collectors and force us to use RFID transponders on our cars instead, followed by another toll hike. 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Funselektor Labs have announced that art of rally is set for another big free expansion." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/art-of-rally-is-getting-another-big-free-update-with-indonesia/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [07:25] TR Bot of rally is getting another big free update with Indonesia | GamingOnLinux [07:25] TR News "The latest update to Proton Experimental has landed for running Windows games on Linux and Steam Deck." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/proton-experimental-bumps-minimum-driver-version-more-playable-on-linux-and-steam-deck/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [07:25] TR Bot Experimental bumps minimum driver version, more playable on Linux and Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux [07:25] TR News "Valve have released a small update for the Steam Deck, along with an update to the main desktop Steam client" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/steam-deck-gets-some-quick-fixes-main-steam-client-update-with-deck-verified-collections/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [07:25] TR Bot Deck gets some quick fixes, main Steam Client update with Deck Verified Collections | GamingOnLinux [07:27] TR News "A complete rebuild of snapshot 20220510 is syncing with the mirrors and should soon be a zypper dup away" https://news.opensuse.org/2022/05/13/gcc-12-is-coming/ | [07:27] TR Bot GCC 12 Becoming Default Compiler in Tumbleweed - openSUSE News [07:28] TR News "With Kubernetes 1.24 the gRPC probes functionality entered beta and is available by default." https://kubernetes.io/blog/2022/05/13/grpc-probes-now-in-beta/ [07:28] TR Bot Kubernetes 1.24: gRPC container probes in beta | Kubernetes [07:28] TR News "Kubernetes, containers and highly scalable [clown [dis]services are the modern elements of business software [hype]." https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/5-things-sres-and-sysadmins-should-know-about-rosa-and-cloud-services | Source: Red Hat Official [07:28] TR Bot 5 things SREs and Sysadmins should know about ROSA and cloud services [07:29] TR News "cURL is an excellent tool for network communications, it stands for 'client URL.'" https://linuxhandbook.com/curl-timeout/ | Source: Linux Handbook [07:29] TR Bot How to Set Timeout in cURL [07:29] TR News "The Fedora project will not include any package that doesn't comply with Fedora licensing policies" https://ostechnix.com/install-third-party-software-fedy-fedora/ | [07:29] TR Bot Third Party Software Using Fedy In Fedora - OSTechNix [07:29] TR News Nvidia Open Sources Linux Drivers!! But Theres A Catch https://odysee.com/@BrodieRobertson:5/nvidia-open-sources-linux-drivers!!-but:7 Source: BrodieRobertson [07:29] TR Bot Nvidia Open Sources Linux Drivers!! But There's A Catch [07:33] TR News Framework laptop finally embraces "schematics or die", long live framework! https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/framework-laptop-finally-embraces:f +1 initial schematics ; -1 github ; [07:33] TR Bot Framework laptop finally embraces "schematics or die", long live framework! [07:33] TR News iophk: the root password to bypass democracy https://ec.europa.eu/home-affairs/proposal-regulation-laying-down-rules-prevent-and-combat-child-sexual-abuse_en [07:33] TR Bot EUR-Lex - COM:2022:209:FIN - EN - EUR-Lex [07:34] TR News iophk: Microsoft represented there multiple times https://www.linuxfoundation.org/press-release/linux-foundation-openssf-gather-industry-government-leaders-open-source-software-security-summit/ [07:34] TR Bot The Linux Foundation and Open Source Software Security Foundation (OpenSSF) Gather Industry and Government Leaders for Open Source Software Security Summit II - Linux Foundation [07:35] TR News Client Side Scanning May Cost More Than it Delivers - SoylentNews https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/05/13/0343256 Source: soylentnews [07:35] TR Bot Client Side Scanning May Cost More Than it Delivers - SoylentNews [07:36] TR News "The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago" https://puri.sm/posts/the-second-best-time-to-protect-your-privacy/ | Source: Purism [07:36] TR Bot The Second Best Time to Protect Your Privacy Purism [07:36] TR News Games: Lovecraft, Please Fix The Road, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164831 [07:36] TR Bot Games: Lovecraft, Please Fix The Road, and More | Tux Machines [07:37] TR News "My colleagues and I at Stanford University and Netflix, recently published a paper at the Internet Measurement Conference 2021 (and which was one of the recipients of this years Applied Networking Research Prize)" https://blog.apnic.net/2022/05/11/reducing-bias-of-networking-a-b-tests/ | Source: APNIC [07:37] TR Bot Reducing bias of networking A/B tests | APNIC Blog [07:37] TR News "These can be used to either protect IP directly or in a tunnelled mode." https://blog.apnic.net/2022/05/09/future-of-ipsec/ | Source: APNIC [07:37] TR Bot The future (and history) of IPSec | APNIC Blog [07:37] TR News "This prompted my colleagues and me at the University of Twente to think of how to further shrink the surface for abuse of open resolvers during DDoS attacks" https://blog.apnic.net/2022/05/13/open-dns-resolvers-from-bad-to-worse/ | Source: APNIC [07:37] TR Bot Open DNS resolvers, from bad to worse | APNIC Blog [07:38] TR News "This article was written so that focus can be brought to the accessibility of the Linux desktop." https://scribe.rip/@r.d.t.prater/linux-accessibility-an-unmaintained-mess-8fbf9decaf8a | [07:38] *goosestepping_ has quit (Quit: Ping timeout: Over 9000!!!) [07:38] TR Bot Linux Accessibility: an unmaintained Mess [07:38] TR News "its possible to run your Raspberry Pi headless (without a monitor)" https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-matrix-dashboard | Source: Tom's Hardware [07:38] TR Bot Raspberry Pi Matrix Dashboard is Packed with Features and Apps | Tom's Hardware [07:39] TR News "Trailing dots on host names in URLs is the gift that keeps on giving." https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/05/12/a-tale-of-a-trailing-dot/ | Source: Daniel Stenberg [07:39] TR Bot tale of a trailing dot | daniel.haxx.se [07:42] TR News "Firefox uses a multi-process model for additional security and stabilit" https://hacks.mozilla.org/2022/05/improved-process-isolation-in-firefox-100/ | Source: Mozilla [07:42] TR Bot Improved Process Isolation in Firefox 100 - Mozilla Hacks - the Web developer blog [07:42] TR News "Recently I wanted to do some basic data analysis using data from my Shopify store." https://jvns.ca/blog/2022/05/12/sqlite-utils--a-nice-way-to-import-data-into-sqlite/ | Source: Julia Evans [07:42] TR Bot sqlite-utils: a nice way to import data into SQLite for analysis [07:43] TR News "The Expert group on the Interoperability of European Public Services came together" https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/interoperable-europe/news/official-expert-recommendations-new-interoperability-policy | Source: Joinup [07:43] TR Bot Official expert recommendations for a new Interoperability Policy | Joinup [07:43] TR News "Once I decided to get back into blogging, I first went on a deep rabbit hole of researching what to use. It is not as if I didnt had a website" https://andregarzia.com/2022/05/How-this-blog-works-or-embracing-chaos.html | Source: Andre Alves Garzia [07:43] TR Bot this blog works, or, embracing chaos AndreGarzia.com [07:45] TR News The Shark Pen Is a Great Pen gemini://gemini.dimakrasner.com/the-shark-pen-is-a-great-pen.gmi [07:45] TR News "Attraction is interesting because who you find attractive can surprise you. This is what dating apps get wrong" gemini://alex.flounder.online/journal.gmi [07:46] TR News "You wanna know what's way more difficult than I thought it would be? Doing real work after over a couple decades of writing software remotely." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/944 [07:47] TR News "There's a question that I ask myself very frequently, which sounds somewhat like this: "What on Earth did the Internet do to people to make them so full of their negative opinions?"" gemini://midnight.pub/posts/945 [07:50] TR News "I also feel compassion for my students" https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/13/opinion/college-university-remote-pandemic.html | Source: New York Times [07:50] TR Bot Opinion | My College Students Are Not OK - The New York Times [07:51] TR News "I found another interesting Word document that delivered an interesting malicious script to potential victims" https://isc.sans.edu/diary/rss/28628 | Source: SANS [07:51] TR Bot InfoSec Handlers Diary Blog - SANS Internet Storm Center [07:52] TR News "Enterprise purchasers should expect to become frustrated when purchasing new hardware in the coming months" https://www.computerworld.com/article/3660609/apples-mac-shortage-is-a-big-red-flag-for-enterprise-it.html | Source: Computer World [07:52] TR Bot Mac shortage is a big red flag for enterprise IT | Computerworld [07:52] TR News "While Apple shipping delays are hardly a new phenomenon, particularly with newer products, just last month, many of these products were being shipped within 2-3 weeks." https://www.macworld.com/article/700574/macbook-pro-mac-studio-shortages.html | Source: Macworld [07:52] TR Bot WWDC looms, Apple is quickly running out of Macs | Macworld [07:52] *goosestepping_ (~goosestepping@m2sp6a2bc6824.irc) has joined #techrights [07:54] TR News ICBM's Openwashing Festival https://siliconangle.com/2022/05/13/red-hat-summit-marks-triumph-open-source-rhsummit/ | Source: Silicon Angle [07:54] TR Bot Hat Summit marks the triumph of open source - SiliconANGLE [07:54] TR News Cisco Openwashing... while making things working for NSA (spies) https://www.sdxcentral.com/articles/interview/cisco-community-is-key-for-open-source-security/2022/05/ | Source: SDx Central [07:54] TR Bot Community Is Key for Open Source Security - SDxCentral [07:54] TR News LF as the voice of Microsoft et al https://www.linuxfoundation.org/press-release/linux-foundation-openssf-gather-industry-government-leaders-open-source-software-security-summit/ | [07:54] TR Bot The Linux Foundation and Open Source Software Security Foundation (OpenSSF) Gather Industry and Government Leaders for Open Source Software Security Summit II - Linux Foundation [07:57] TR News "Yik Yak, an app that acts as a local anonymous message board, makes it possible to find users precise locations and unique IDs, Motherboard reports." https://www.theverge.com/2022/5/13/23070696/yik-yak-anonymous-app-precise-locations-revealed | Source: The Verge [07:57] TR Bot Anonymous bulletin board app Yik Yak is revealing its users exact locations - The Verge [07:57] TR News "In this case, it means that the EU wants to force all providers of email, messaging, and chat services to comprehensively search all private messages, even in the absence of any suspicion. That makes the contents of messages no longer private between the sender and receiver, and client-side scanning breaks the E2E encryption trust model." https://blog.malwarebytes.com/privacy-2/2022/05/client-side-scanning-may-cost-more-than-it- [07:57] TR Bot Client side scanning may cost more than it delivers | Malwarebytes Labs [07:57] TR News "Stalkerware, also referred to as spyware, is software designed to secretly monitor another person, tracking their location, phone calls, private messages, web searches, and keystrokes." https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/05/12/1052125/google-failing-stalkerware-apps-ads-ban/ | Source: MIT Technology Review [07:57] TR Bot Google is failing to enforce its own ban on ads for stalkerware | MIT Technology Review [07:57] TR News "The Markup found, however, that while Hispanic culture was removed, for example, Spanish language was not." https://themarkup.org/citizen-browser/2022/05/12/facebook-promised-to-remove-sensitive-ads-heres-what-it-left-behind | Source: The Markup [07:57] TR Bot Facebook Promised to Remove Sensitive Ads. Heres What It Left Behind The Markup [07:58] TR News "This is a historic win for the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU)." https://blog.malwarebytes.com/privacy-2/2022/05/clearview-ai-banned-from-selling-facial-recognition-data-in-the-us/ | [07:58] TR Bot Clearview AI banned from selling facial recognition data in the US | Malwarebytes Labs [07:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 21.76 k/sec., IPFS upstream 27.88 average k/sec., average swarm size 334.15 ● May 14 [08:05] TR News "The lawmakers asked Meta, Twitter, YouTube and TikTok to preserve and archive posts related to the conflict that may provide evidence of war crimes or human rights violations" https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3486902-house-democrats-urge-social-media-platforms-to-preserve-potential-evidence-of-war-crimes-in-ukraine/ | Source: The Hill [08:05] TR Bot House Democrats urge social media platforms to preserve potential evidence of war crimes in Ukraine | The Hill [08:06] TR News Builder GTK 4 Porting, Part IV Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164832 [08:06] TR Bot Builder GTK 4 Porting, Part IV | Tux Machines [08:07] TR News This week in KDE: something for everyone Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164833 [08:07] TR News This week in KDE: something for everyone Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164833 [08:07] TR Bot This week in KDE: something for everyone | Tux Machines [08:27] *goosestepping_ has quit (Quit: Ping timeout: Over 9000!!!) [08:44] TR News "We cannot live in a world where Facebook and Google know everything about us and we know next to nothing about them" https://stanforddaily.com/2022/05/10/stanford-law-professor-calls-for-digital-platform-transparency-legislation-in-senate-testimony/ | Source: uni Stanford [08:44] TR Bot Stanford law professor calls for digital platform transparency legislation in senate testimony | The Stanford Daily [08:57] TR News "The airline revealed this week that it has cancelled 4,000 flights from May to August" https://cphpost.dk/?p=133791 | Source: Copenhagen Post [08:57] TR Bot SAS cancels thousands of flights this summer - The Post [08:57] TR News "cryptocurrency" https://www.theverge.com/2022/5/13/23070853/crypto-exchanges-delist-terra-stablecoin-luna-binance | Source: The Verge [08:57] TR Bot Major exchanges delist Terra stablecoin as price collapse continues - The Verge [08:58] TR News Big loss https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/emirates-air-lost-billion-80-improvement-84690619 | Source: ABC [08:58] TR Bot Emirates Air lost $1 billion, but that's an 80% improvement - ABC News [08:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 18.20 k/sec., IPFS upstream 33.21 average k/sec., average swarm size 352.81 ● May 14 [09:04] TR News "Its not a website. Your clients are internet providers. They are not websites" https://www.theverge.com/2022/5/13/23068423/fifth-circuit-texas-social-media-law-ruling-first-amendment-section-230 | Source: The Verge [09:04] TR Bot A court just blew up internet law because it thinks YouTube isnt a website - The Verge [09:04] TR News "still committed to acquisition" https://deadline.com/2022/05/elon-musk-twitter-deal-on-hold-1235023048/ | Source: Deadline [09:04] TR Bot Musk Says Twitter Deal On Hold Following Spam Account Reveal Deadline [09:05] *CParadoxum__ has quit (Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.) [09:06] *CParadoxum__ (~quassel@9xkr6pdp2c5xu.irc) has joined #techrights [09:17] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techrights [09:19] TR News "Musk puts on hold $44-billion deal for Twitter, shares slump" https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/social-media/musk-puts-on-hold-44-billion-deal-for-twitter-shares-slump/91542502 | Source: India Times [09:19] TR Bot twitter: Musk puts on hold $44-billion deal for Twitter, shares slump, CIO News, ET CIO [09:19] TR News "Twitter deal temporarily on hold pending details supporting calculation that spam/fake accounts do indeed represent less than 5% of users" https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/elon-musk-twitter-deal-temporarily-hold-1235146041/ | Source: Hollywood Reporter [09:19] TR Bot Elon Musk: Twitter Deal Temporarily on Hold The Hollywood Reporter [09:23] TR News Gulagtube https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/amber-heard-trial-depp-youtube-content-platform-algorithm-tiktok-rcna28016 | Source: NBC [09:23] TR Bot YouTube creators are pivoting to pro-Depp, anti-Amber Heard content and raking in millions of views [09:23] TR News "And then there are the memes. So many memes." https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/amber-heard-johnny-depp-trial-spawns-memes-are-disturbing-rcna27415 | Source: NBC [09:23] TR Bot Amber Heard-Johnny Depp trial spawns memes that are disturbing [09:41] TR News "In Sweden there's a sort of unemployment fund you can opt in to paying to if you're in a labour union. If and when you lose your employment you will be entitled to payouts from this fund in lieu of a salary." gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-05-14-unemployment-agency-hassle.gmi [09:46] *goosestepping_ (~goosestepping@xespkmbs97fk2.irc) has joined #techrights [09:46] TR News "Could Netflixs pain be someone elses gain?" Digital Restrictions (DRM) is a bubble! https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/free-streaming-services-tubi-freevee-roku-1235143393/ | Source: Hollywood Reporter [09:46] TR Bot Free Streaming Services Tubi, PlutoTV and Freevee Seize Their Moment The Hollywood Reporter [09:46] TR News Digital Restrictions (DRM): "Netflix is advising its employees to be fiscally responsible, while facing a loss..." https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/netflix-tells-employees-to-spend-our-members-money-wisely-in-new-memo-1235145947/ | Source: Hollywood Reporter [09:46] TR Bot Netflix Tells Employees to Spend Our Members Money Wisely The Hollywood Reporter [09:47] TR News "right of publicity" https://edition.cnn.com/2021/11/07/us/bj-novak-photo-copyright-explainer-cec/index.html | Source: CNN [09:47] TR Bot How photos end up in the public domain -- and can be used in ads around the world - CNN [09:52] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164834 [09:52] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [09:55] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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[10:04] schestowitz https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/05/13/the-collective-zelensky [10:04] TR Bot NO TITLE [10:04] schestowitz War makes people dumb [10:04] schestowitz in Russia too, XRevan86 [10:05] TR News "Up until the end of April, a group of volunteers were working in Penza to help Ukrainian refugees get to St. Petersburg" https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/05/14/penza-volunteers-helped-ukrainian-refugees-leave-for-estonia-now-they-are-being-harassed-in-anonymous-russian-telegram-channels-and-called-ukronazis | Source: Meduza [10:05] TR Bot NO TITLE [10:06] TR News Surveillance is NOT "health" https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/mental-health-apps-privacy/ | Source: PIA [10:06] TR Bot Mental Health Apps Are Not As Private As You Think [10:10] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:11] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@iwskee978x32q.irc) has joined #techrights [10:11] TR News "This year, weve already seen sizeable leaks of NVIDIA source code" https://hackaday.com/2022/05/13/nvidia-releases-drivers-with-openness-flavor/ | Source: Hackaday [10:11] TR Bot Releases Drivers With Openness Flavor | Hackaday [10:13] TR News FriendlyELEC unveils Rockchip based NanoPi R5S SBC with gigabit WAN/LAN support and HDMI output http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164766#comment-33665 [10:13] TR Bot NanoPi and Raspberry Pi | Tux Machines [10:17] TR News Ubuntu 22.10 (Kinetic Kudu) development starts. Here are all the details you need to know. Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164835 [10:17] TR Bot Ubuntu 22.10 (Kinetic Kudu) development starts. Here are all the details you need to know. | Tux Machines [10:18] TR News "Hackaday Editor-in-Chief Elliot Williams and Staff Writer Dan Maloney as they review the top hacks" https://hackaday.com/2022/05/13/hackaday-podcast-168-math-flattens-spheres-fpgas-emulate-arcades-and-we-cant-shake-polaroid-pictures/ | Source: Hackaday [10:18] TR Bot Podcast 168: Math Flattens Spheres, FPGAs Emulate Arcades, And We Cant Shake Polaroid Pictures | Hackaday [10:25] TR News "Illinois top financial official has banned local governments from using a state program to collect debt from students who have been ticketed for truancy" https://www.propublica.org/article/illinois-school-discipline-ticket-debt-collection | Source: Pro Publica claims to care for young people while BAGGING BRIBES FROM BILL GATES [10:25] TR Bot Illinois Will Stop Helping Cities Collect Some School Ticket Debt From Students ProPublica [10:26] TR News "entertainment companies announced suspensions of new business in Russia" https://torrentfreak.com/russias-forced-licensing-plan-for-enemy-content-legalizes-piracy-220513/ | Source: Torrent Freak [10:26] TR Bot Forced Licensing Plan For 'Enemy' Content "Legalizes Piracy" * TorrentFreak [10:26] TR News "controversial takes on copyright and the DMCA" https://torrentfreak.com/elon-musk-overzealous-dmca-is-a-plague-on-humanity-220513/ | Source: Torrent Freak [10:26] TR Bot Musk: "Overzealous DMCA Is a Plague On Humanity" * TorrentFreak [10:27] TR News "According to [Lee Teschler], the classic representation of encoders showing code rings is out of date" https://hackaday.com/2022/05/13/absolute-encoder-teardown/ | Source: Hackaday [10:27] TR Bot Encoder Teardown | Hackaday [10:32] *matey (~matey@6v8cjbvydcdre.irc) has joined #techrights [10:32] SomeH4x0r hi [10:33] *matey has quit (connection closed) [10:41] schestowitz-TR hi, gm [10:43] TR News Tyson kills. No, not the boxer. The corporation. https://www.propublica.org/article/documents-covid-meatpacking-tyson-smithfield-trump | Source: Pro Publica [10:43] TR Bot The Plot to Keep Meatpacking Plants Open During COVID-19 ProPublica [10:52] *matey (~matey@vvbde374bfqga.irc) has joined #techrights [10:55] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:57] *matey has quit (connection closed) [10:58] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@pcneveiyxuxwa.irc) has joined #techrights [10:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 23.30 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.18 average k/sec., average swarm size 426.70 [10:59] *includeals (~includeal@a94-132-176-57.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #techrights ● May 14 [11:00] TR News Alejandro Mayorkas https://fair.org/home/media-ignore-criticism-of-dhss-new-disinformation-board-unless-its-from-the-right/ | Source: FAIR [11:00] TR Bot Media Ignore Criticism of DHSs New Disinformation BoardUnless its from the Right - FAIR [11:11] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@uppxs3cubs7tc.irc) has joined #techrights [11:18] *horseface__ (~goosestepping@i3b5imecsq8yi.irc) has joined #techrights [11:19] DaemonFC Based on what I've heard, Tyson was justified in punching the guy. [11:19] DaemonFC For some reason, sitting right next to some asshole that ruins the entire flight is some kind of cosmic quirk where it happens nearly every time despite the odds. [11:19] *goosestepping_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:21] DaemonFC https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/05/13/1098071284/this-is-how-many-lives-could-have-been-saved-with-covid-vaccinations-in-each-sta [11:21] TR Bot Of 1 million COVID deaths, how many could have been averted with vaccines? : Shots - Health News : NPR [11:22] DaemonFC And in a year, if you aren't fully vaccinated, defined as 14 jabs with a product that hasn't changed, they'll still be blaming you. [11:24] *goosestepping_ (~goosestepping@u3iaeh2n9kxbc.irc) has joined #techrights [11:25] *horseface__ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:32] DaemonFC Maybe Biden will fix the formula problem like he fixed immigration, Trump's tax giveaways to Creepy Uncle Bill Gates, inflation, the economy, forgave student loan debt, got gas prices under control, and stopped the hyper-aggressive right-wing foreign policies. [11:32] DaemonFC (my comment on WGN's latest baby formula article) [11:35] *includeals has quit (Quit: ZNC - https://znc.in) [11:36] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:36] *includeals (~includeal@a94-132-176-57.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #techrights [11:41] TR News The Original Linus Torvalds on Self-Hosting | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/14/self-hosting-torvalds/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/14/self-hosting-torvalds/ [11:41] TR Bot The Original Linus Torvalds on Self-Hosting | Techrights [11:52] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) ● May 14 [12:00] DaemonFC "Bought my first BMW 7 Series in 2001. Kept the car until 2009 and put 169000 miles on it. Eventually, I learned to budget about 3500 - 5000 per year for maintenance after it was out of warranty. Once the car was paid for - spending $3500/year on maintenance didn't seem too awful. I mean all cars need maintenance to one degree or another. I bought a 2010 7 and loved the car but the warranty saved my ass. In the first two years of ownership - [12:00] DaemonFC and well under 48k miles - I needed a new engine and a new transmission at the 23rd month of ownership. Then one of the computer modules crapped out and essentially turned the car into a brick. I put in the new module and traded for a 2013 model 7 series. Out of the frying pan and into the fire. By this time I'd learned to buy the extended maintenance and extend the warranties as far as possible. So when the transmission crapped out and was [12:00] DaemonFC replaced under warranty (in fairness, they gave me a 5 series loaner and picked up and delivered the 7 to keep in my good graces, I think.) The three weeks it took them to get parts and put the new transmission in - along with the computer that controlled it, BTW, I tried a 2015 7-series. By this time, unless you spent the money for the highest-priced 7's, you got a frigging six-cylinder engine. The turbo's made it almost workable at lower [12:00] DaemonFC speeds. Passing on the freeway when you were doing 85 and you overtook something doing over 95, was an ordeal and you couldn't count on it happening fast. This was NOT what I was paying $1500 plus tax per month for!" [12:00] DaemonFC --- [12:00] DaemonFC LOL [12:01] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [12:01] DaemonFC _Before_ they went totally to shit, you had to "plan" on budgeting $4,500 a year for car repairs. According to Edmunds, most American cars cost about $600-1000 a year in upkeep and repairs with that mileage range he was talking about on his 2001 BMW. [12:02] DaemonFC Then he says he got a 2010 and the "extended warranty" replaced the entire powertrain and a lot of computer modules and the car wasn't even two years old yet. [12:03] DaemonFC Then he bought another one. Same shit. [12:03] DaemonFC No reason to fix it if your customers will buy the next one anyway. [12:03] DaemonFC You just train them that they will be SO SORRY if they don't buy a $9,000 extended warranty and then ditch their car before it turns 5. [12:08] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techrights [12:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights [12:18] *goosestepping_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:20] *goosestepping_ (~goosestepping@9f5rrgxd3fz2c.irc) has joined #techrights [12:21] TR News "Like many of you, were intrigued by the possibilities offered by the availability of affordable round LCD" https://hackaday.com/2022/05/13/round-lcds-put-to-work-in-rack-mount-gauge-cluster/ | Source: Hackaday [12:21] TR Bot LCDs Put To Work In Rack Mount Gauge Cluster | Hackaday [12:21] TR News "Before IBM was synonymous with personal computers, they were synonymous with large computers" https://hackaday.com/2022/05/13/retrotechtacular-the-ibm-system-360-remembered/ | Source: Hackaday [12:21] TR Bot The IBM System/360 Remembered | Hackaday [12:22] TR News "Wattmeter" https://hackaday.com/2022/05/13/whats-in-a-wattmeter/ | Source: Hackaday [12:22] TR Bot In A Wattmeter? | Hackaday [12:24] TR News "Geofence and reverse keyword warrants completely circumvent the limits set by the Fourth Amendment." https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/05/geofence-warrants-and-reverse-keyword-warrants-are-so-invasive-even-big-tech-wants | Source: EFF [12:24] TR Bot Geofence Warrants and Reverse Keyword Warrants are So Invasive, Even Big Tech Wants to Ban Them | Electronic Frontier Foundation [12:26] TR News "Theboiling frogsyndrome suggests that if a frog jumps into a pot of boiling water, it immediately jumps out but if a frog jumps into a slowly heating pot, it senses no danger and gets cooked." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/13/boiling-elon-musk-jumping-out-of-the-pot-of-platform-law/ | Source: Techdirt [12:26] TR Bot Elon Musk Jumping Out Of The Pot Of Platform Law? | Techdirt [12:27] TR News "funny how people talk to each other on this site despite it being extremely hard to follow or notify the person " gemini://alex.flounder.online/journal.gmi [12:46] DaemonFC https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/red-light-cameras-in-oakbrook-terrace-covered-up?utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=trueanthem&utm_source=facebook [12:46] TR Bot Red light cameras in Oakbrook Terrace covered up [12:52] XRevan86 schestowitz: It's not dumbness, it's because he didn't chicken out. [12:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.41 k/sec., IPFS upstream 43.86 average k/sec., average swarm size 385.58 ● May 14 [13:02] DaemonFC The Russians apparently lost an entire battalion trying to cross a bridge yesterday, including dozens of vehicles. [13:03] DaemonFC :) [13:04] XRevan86 DaemonFC: Ereyesterday [13:08] *bnchs (~bnchs@kya2tjkqrb4pk.irc) has joined #techrights [13:09] DaemonFC "New video and analysis of drone and satellite imagery show that the Russians may have lost as many as 70 armored vehicles and other equipment in attempting to cross the river early this week. Their goal was to try to encircle Ukrainian defenses in the Luhansk region, but it failed spectacularly." [13:09] DaemonFC Ah, well, CNN reported it yesterday [13:10] DaemonFC XRevan86, Well, that was $150 million worth of equipment and 1,000 Russian lives well spent. [13:11] DaemonFC 86% Putin approval rating. [13:11] TR News Who Brings Home the Bacon (Revenue), Sheela or James (Jim)? | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/14/microsoft-breadwinner/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/14/microsoft-breadwinner/ [13:11] TR Bot Who Brings Home the Bacon (Revenue), Sheela or James (Jim)? | Techrights [13:12] DaemonFC "Russia's most numerous tanks are the T-72B3 (mod. 2011 & 2016) and the older T-72B (mod. 1985 & 1989).[125] In the buildup to the invasion, Russian forces applied improvised steel grilles to the top of the turret, known as "cope cages" by some analysts,[126][127][128][129] along with British Defence Secretary Ben Wallace.[130] Military analysts have speculated that such grilles were added in an attempt to counter the usage of top-attack [13:12] DaemonFC weapons, such as the US made FGM-148 Javelin and British-Swedish NLAW, by Ukrainian forces.[131][132][133][134] These implementations add weight to the tank, increase its visual profile, and make it more difficult for the crew to escape from the tank.[135]" [13:12] DaemonFC LOL [13:16] DaemonFC https://www.thebharatexpressnews.com/teenager-who-killed-six-people-on-bmw-death-ride-asked-people-to-guess-the-speed-for-20/?amp [13:16] TR Bot Teenager who 'killed six people on BMW Death Ride' asked people to guess the speed for 20 - The Bharat Express News [13:17] bnchs i guess 300 mph [13:17] bnchs am i right? [13:18] DaemonFC 151 according to the article. [13:19] DaemonFC Some guy on Youtube said he liked his BMW because "in a Toyota, you don't feel like you're in control of the car if you're going over 70". [13:19] DaemonFC I got 90 miles an hour often in my 2003 Impala (300,000 miles) and in the 2008 Buick LaCrosse, and I have plenty of control over both cars. [13:19] DaemonFC *go [13:19] DaemonFC And they're not expensive cars. [13:20] DaemonFC The only reason I don't go faster than that is because I don't want to be charged with speeding as a criminal offense if I don't spot the police in time. [13:21] XRevan86 https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/05/14/ukraines-prosecutor-general-at-least-227-children-killed-in-ukraine-since-war-began-news "Ukraines prosecutor general: at least 227 children killed in Ukraine since war began" [13:21] TR Bot . [13:21] XRevan86 https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/05/14/crimean-activist-held-for-over-a-week-in-fsb-basement-in-simferopol-her-attorney-says-news "Crimean activist held for over a week in FSB basement in Simferopol, her attorney says" [13:21] TR Bot . [13:22] DaemonFC They're prosecuting the first Russian soldier accused of a war crime. [13:22] DaemonFC He faces up to 15 years for murdering an unarmed man to try to avoid having him phone in their location. [13:22] DaemonFC Far too lenient. [13:22] DaemonFC Hang him. [13:23] XRevan86 DaemonFC: Ukrainian law only gives up to 15 years. [13:23] XRevan86 This is maximum penalty. [13:23] DaemonFC That's very unfortunate. They should change the law, and then hang the rest of them. [13:24] XRevan86 Except for incarceration for life, that also exists. [13:24] DaemonFC Too lenient. [13:25] DaemonFC War criminals deserve to be hanged. It's cheap and it sends a message to the rest. [13:25] DaemonFC Most of the Nazis were hanged after their trials. Only the ones convicted of lesser crimes went to prison. [13:26] schestowitz-TR LOL!!!!! [13:26] schestowitz-TR Musk approches privately to buy Twitter [13:26] schestowitz-TR my impression graph goes off the chart [13:26] schestowitz-TR 4fold [13:26] schestowitz-TR now he makes allegations of bots [13:26] schestowitz-TR 2 days ago my graphs fall back down, for the first time since before he approached them [13:26] schestowitz-TR Bernie Madoff would be proud if he was not dead already [13:26] schestowitz-TR Twitter is faking it [13:26] schestowitz-TR and manipulating "Analytics" [13:27] schestowitz-TR and not doing a good job hiding that [13:28] schestowitz-TR OK, I found a way to visualise this [13:28] schestowitz-TR will do a post [13:28] Techrights-sec unfortunately not only are they unlikely to care, the penalties are unlikely [13:28] Techrights-sec to be enforced, and were the government to try the glacial speed of the response [13:28] Techrights-sec would render any such efforts moot. [13:28] Techrights-sec ack [13:29] XRevan86 It seems like if Musk's not going to buy Twitter, then his actions brought Twitter's demise near. [13:29] schestowitz-TR yes [13:29] schestowitz-TR good. [13:29] schestowitz-TR same thing microsofr and ichan did to Yahoo! [13:29] schestowitz-TR but Twitter needs to go [13:29] schestowitz-TR Microsoft did that to hurt a competitor [13:30] schestowitz-TR microsoft kept making offers to buy Yahoo! [13:30] schestowitz-TR and then backed away [13:30] schestowitz-TR to lower the price [13:30] schestowitz-TR than the same to Nokia [13:30] DaemonFC If Yahoo was still around, the Philippines could use them for Geocities hosting for their embassies to go along with their Frontpage 2000. [13:32] schestowitz-TR I saw the same [13:32] XRevan86 DaemonFC: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&u=https://ria.ru/20220514/spetsoperatsiya-1788496027.html Try to find a single mention of that Sieversky Donets pontoon battle. [13:32] TR Bot 13 - , 14.05.2022 [13:32] schestowitz-TR yes, they have the most laughable sites [13:32] schestowitz-TR and outsourced too [13:32] schestowitz-TR like it's joseon [13:32] schestowitz-TR a digital pseudo-state [13:32] XRevan86 Only Great Success [13:34] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, The least they could do is use Netscape Composer. [13:34] XRevan86 The success is so great the Russian army is retreating from the Kharkw area. [13:34] DaemonFC Finally an embassy website built for Web 0.9. [13:35] DaemonFC I built my website in Composer, but then I redid it with Mozilla Composer so that I could make it validate. [13:36] DaemonFC Netscape had a habit of bloating the markup and making a ton of small errors that caused it not to validate. [13:36] DaemonFC In many cases, you could fix it just by running it through an "HTML Compressor" and then opening and saving it again with Mozilla Composer. [13:39] DaemonFC Then again, I wasn't trying to pretend at running a small country. [13:39] DaemonFC I just needed to quickly verify the code and then open and close it in several browsers to make sure they all handled it okay. [13:40] DaemonFC Internet Explorer was actually the most forgiving. It tried to deal with undefined and illegal behaviors. [13:41] DaemonFC Most people suspect this was so their broken website wouldn't be obvious and then it would fail to load at all in anything else. [13:42] DaemonFC Then to deal with "complainers" who use Netscape or Opera, you just stuck out a "Best Viewed in Internet Explorer" button. [13:43] DaemonFC I didn't run into any VBS crap on the Philippines websites though. [13:43] DaemonFC I don't know how they use Frontpage 2000. [13:43] DaemonFC Actual Windows XP or a virtual machine so they don't have to train anyone on new software? [13:44] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [13:58] TR News Elon Musk is Right About Twitter Faking Its Importance and Using Doctored, Manipulated Stats (or Bots) to Boost Valuation Based on Lies | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/14/fake-importance-of-twitter/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/14/fake-importance-of-twitter/ [13:58] TR Bot Elon Musk is Right About Twitter Faking Its Importance and Using Doctored, Manipulated Stats (or Bots) to Boost Valuation Based on Lies | Techrights ● May 14 [14:03] TR News KDE Frameworks 5.94 Released with More Than 200 Changes, Heres Whats New Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164836 [14:03] TR Bot KDE Frameworks 5.94 Released with More Than 200 Changes, Here's What's New | Tux Machines [14:03] TR News Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164837 [14:03] TR Bot Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [14:06] TR News IRC Proceedings: Friday, May 13, 2022 Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/14/irc-log-130522/ Source: Techrights | GNU | Linux | FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/14/irc-log-130522/ [14:06] TR Bot IRC Proceedings: Friday, May 13, 2022 | Techrights [14:11] TR News FB and Twitter need to die. LinkedIn is already dead/dying, there are even many Microsoft layoffs there. Finally, GulagTube needs to be going the way of the dodo along with Spotify and Netflix. They lack a proper business model. [14:13] TR News "Perhaps cancel culture is mostly mirage: the social media shadow of American celebrity obsession" https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/05/13/21-fallacies-feeding-cancel-culture-and-holding-back-the-contemporary-u-s-left/ | Source: Counter Punch [14:13] TR Bot Fallacies Feeding Cancel Culture and Holding Back the Contemporary U.S. Left - CounterPunch.org [14:15] TR News "The Limits to Growth" https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/05/13/limits-to-growth-where-we-stand-today/ | Source: Counter Punch [14:15] TR Bot to Growth:Where We Stand Today - CounterPunch.org [14:26] TR News "After years of dominating American capitalism by grinding workers into the dust, Amazon is on a hot losing streak" https://www.thenation.com/article/society/amazon-monopoly-boycott/ | Source: The Nation [14:26] TR Bot Dont Boycott Amazon | The Nation [14:26] *immibis has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:28] *immibis has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [14:30] *immibis (~hexchat@acad4bt9wne9w.irc) has joined #techrights [14:30] *immibis (~hexchat@62.156.144.218) has joined #techrights [14:30] XRevan86 https://theins.press/en/news/251261 [14:30] TR Bot Russia is withdrawing from the outskirts of Kharkiv, says Ukrainian General Staff [14:30] XRevan86 https://theins.press/en/news/251259 [14:30] TR Bot Philosophers' steamboat all over again. 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They certainly control the narrative there as CISA rarely mentions Windows or Microsoft, except in a positive context. https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/05/13/cisa-temporarily-removes-cve-2022-26925-known-exploited [15:30] TR Bot CISA Temporarily Removes CVE-2022-26925 from Known Exploited Vulnerability Catalog | CISA [15:31] TR News This has nothing to do with Linux, but Microsoft-connected sites post garbage like that https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/microsoft-sysrv-botnet-targets-windows-linux-servers-with-new-exploits/ [15:31] TR Bot Microsoft: Sysrv botnet targets Windows, Linux servers with new exploits [15:32] TR News Cameras should always be covered with tape in ChromeOS. 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Is it just me or Lagrange is much less smooth compared to Linux/Windows? I tried to debug myself but the frametime seems quite Ok. IDK, Lagrange it way beyond my skill level. I just know C and some SDL." gemini://station.martinrue.com/ [15:42] TR News Don't treat me like a human being. Treat other beings how youd treat me. gemini://cobaltblue.flounder.online/gemlog/2021-07-18.gmi [15:52] *oarion7 (~anonymous@user/oarion7) has joined #techrights ● May 14 [16:11] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164839 [16:11] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164841 [16:11] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [16:27] bnchs hey guys [16:28] bnchs wanna hear something, windows can't render country flags anything more than just country codes [16:28] bnchs because "political" stuff [16:31] *matey (~matey@nt5gpvxraxmza.irc) has joined #techrights [16:32] SomeH4x0r hi [16:32] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/22051331 [16:32] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/fk1l2wouqey81.jpg created on 2022-05-13 11:54:47.039384 [16:32] matey schestowitz-TR now he makes allegations of bots <- maybe to cover adding more of them [16:33] matey "damn bots, we wont stand for this! *adds more*" [16:33] matey self-driving social media [16:34] matey self-driving traffic, driving traffic [16:34] matey self-baking cookies-- self-baking owner [16:36] matey windows can't render country flags anything more than just country codes <- 816F1465! [16:37] matey being afraid of flags as language representation is a whole new level of anal-retentive [16:37] matey "should we drop russian language support?" <- some idiots already discussed this i think [16:38] matey yeah because they only speak it in russia, dumbfuck [16:38] bnchs matey: no the US flag is gonna appear like the US flag in platforms [16:38] bnchs but in windows it's gonna be "[US]" [16:38] matey lol [16:38] matey i got that part [16:38] MinceR lol [16:38] matey its hilarious [16:38] TR News The fast-aging founder of Linux spoke as shown above (2005); so much has changed since then http://techrights.org/2022/05/14/self-hosting-torvalds/ [16:38] TR Bot The Original Linus Torvalds on Self-Hosting | Techrights [16:39] TR News Sheela (yes, wife of the nontechnical Linux Foundation chief, who equates Microsoft critics with people who kick puppies) has a history working with several companies that are closely connected to Microsoft (not just Bakkt) http://techrights.org/2022/05/14/microsoft-breadwinner/ [16:39] TR Bot Who Brings Home the Bacon (Revenue), Sheela or James (Jim)? | Techrights [16:39] matey in the future, the only flags will be [US] and [THEM] [16:39] MinceR don't people working in IT inside terrorussia know english anyway? [16:39] TR News Todays empirical proof that Twitter is totally faking its relevance and reach/influence, based on Analytics of my long-inactive account; the SEC will once again quite likely as usual let Musk get away with it, http://techrights.org/2022/05/14/fake-importance-of-twitter/ [16:39] TR Bot Elon Musk is Right About Twitter Faking Its Importance and Using Doctored, Manipulated Stats (or Bots) to Boost Valuation Based on Lies | Techrights [16:39] bnchs matey: they also did the same thing in the timezone selector [16:39] bnchs the day-one release of Windows 95 highlighted your timezone in the world map [16:39] matey don't people working in IT inside terrorussia know english anyway <- its a highly guarded secret, and putlin denies it [16:39] MinceR or is it like hungary where people are too stupid to learn more than 1 language? [16:40] bnchs but months after windows 95 released (and a few updates), the feature was removed [16:40] bnchs because "political wars" and crap [16:41] bnchs and then they removed the world map entirely [16:41] MinceR lol [16:41] matey foreign as a second language [16:41] MinceR did it have borders on it? [16:42] bnchs no [16:42] matey /me thinks they should do away with flags anyway, in favour of 3d icons [16:43] matey mexico can have a little sombrero, canada a moose [16:43] matey usa a pickup truck [16:43] *MinceR thinks we should do away with states entirely, and then flags, borders, coats of arms and such shit can just go away [16:43] bnchs https://puzzling.stackexchange.com/questions/116097 [16:43] TR Bot enigmatic puzzle - - Puzzling Stack Exchange [16:43] bnchs "Note: The above should render as a bunch of flag emoji, which Windows 10 and 11 apparently don't support (!), so here's a screenshot if you want to see it." [16:43] matey /me is ultimately with mincer on this [16:44] matey though when mincer says he wants to get rid of states, he means physically remove them [16:44] MinceR i love those empty hints [16:44] bnchs "I am using Windows and Microsoft refuses to implement any country flags emojis in order to avoid political controversies, showing them as two-letter codes instead. So, what I see here is just "ROTDROTDROTDRORO ROTDROROROTDRORO". So, can someone post a screenshot of what it looks like in some other platform?" [16:44] MinceR well, i'd settle for global anarchy [16:44] matey progress :) [16:44] MinceR but the more likely method is human extinction [16:45] bnchs sounds like a song [16:45] bnchs ROTDRORODTODORODTOTD [16:45] matey /me drums on the keyboard [16:46] MinceR ah, needed scripts from at least 2 domains to let me reveal them [16:46] MinceR revealing hints by highlighting text didn't use enough energy, i guess [16:46] *boldc___ (~b9813d0a@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [16:46] matey they should use rot13 [16:47] matey its the nsa standard for hints, cheats and dissidents [16:47] MinceR :> [16:54] activelow matey: since you asked yesterday, about steam games... with baphometos there won't be steam support [16:54] activelow however, i got libsdl1/fbcon and tested this with prboom+ successfully, and there is many other games which libsdl1/fbcon suffices for [16:55] boldc___ MS wants a world under only one flag the ms logo flag [16:56] matey ha [16:57] matey they should just change the logo to [MS] [16:57] matey with a dollar sign [16:57] bnchs fuck [WH][IN][NE][PO][OH] [16:57] bnchs who lives in [ZH] [16:58] matey as long as theyre using letters, they could switch from country codes to language codes [16:58] matey which would make a fuck of a lot more sense [16:59] matey but for a keyboard layout a country code is still what youd need i guess [16:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 21.28 k/sec., IPFS upstream 43.36 average k/sec., average swarm size 364.06 [16:59] matey which continent is dvorak on? [16:59] matey it sounds european ● May 14 [17:00] matey utf is obviously in the middle east [17:00] matey though when we make first contact, unicode is going to get a lot messier [17:01] matey the good news is harfbuzz will finally be obsolete [17:02] boldc___ utf can be considered sexual harassment [17:02] matey it doesnt support 4 dimensional grammatical structures [17:03] matey unicode sometimes falls under the category of unwanted textual (technological) advances [17:03] MinceR for unicode, use a globe [17:04] MinceR but viewed such that east asia is not visible [17:04] MinceR (due to Han unification) [17:04] bnchs btw microsoft will not implement this [17:04] matey lol [17:04] bnchs because politically they cannot [17:04] bnchs what if utf goes in war against dvorak [17:04] matey free software: wait, we can make computing NOT STUPID! [17:05] matey industry: hold my beer! [17:07] matey the leader of a monarchy is a monarch, the leader of a dictatorship is a dictator, and the leader of a country is a [17:08] matey you know the dumbest thing about stallmans solution to genderless grammatical ambiguity? (singular they) [17:08] matey its ambiguous [17:08] matey wtf happens to the phrase "per person" [17:09] matey but i suppose he would call that an acceptable loss [17:09] matey which is funny, because "acceptable loss" is pretty much what most people think about the ambiguity of singular they [17:10] boldc___ a genderless is a eunuch? [17:10] matey as theyve been using it for hundreds of years already [17:10] *matey has quit (connection closed) [17:10] *matey (~matey@b8wrge84uv522.irc) has joined #techrights [17:12] boldc___ why dont animals have gender? [17:12] boldc___ or have they? [17:13] boldc___ i find that utterly offensive [17:13] MinceR i find your finding to be utterly offensive [17:14] *goosestepping_ has quit (Quit: Ping timeout: Over 9000!!!) [17:14] boldc___ sorry if fact don't fit your feelings [17:15] SomeH4x0r they do have gender roles, so I guess they do [17:17] boldc___ we are talking about language ? [17:17] SomeH4x0r oh [17:18] SomeH4x0r some people do use gender when referring to certain animals, the ones they do care about personally, or something [17:18] SomeH4x0r or when the gender is relevant for the discussed topic [17:23] matey (no [17:23] boldc___ if someone call my pet a thing im going to court for harrassement [17:24] *hihi (~hihi@49wru8thva7vu.irc) has joined #techrights [17:24] matey (no [17:25] matey (no [17:25] MinceR oh, now facts started to matter, suddenly? :> [17:25] matey ... [17:25] MinceR (to boldc___, that is) [17:26] *hihi has quit (connection closed) [17:26] boldc___ ill be famous get lots of social media attentions lots of likes and haters and ill be [17:26] matey lol [17:26] matey it didnt work [17:26] boldc___ forcing the law hand to make a new law hopefully with my name on it [17:27] boldc___ whats not ot like? [17:29] boldc___ its like having your ego boosted to level 100 instantlly [17:30] boldc___ onde social gameing platform [17:31] boldc___ on the social gaming platforms [17:34] boldc___ i bet in the very least i will get free pet food foe ever [17:35] boldc___ https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Companies/Classic-Japanese-audio-brand-Onkyo-files-for-bankruptcy [17:35] TR Bot Classic Japanese audio brand Onkyo files for bankruptcy - Nikkei Asia [17:35] boldc___ another one bites the dust [17:36] bnchs ego increased to 100 [17:36] bnchs Level Progress <#############> 101 [17:37] boldc___ how did you do that? [17:37] boldc___ thats cheating [17:38] bnchs grindset [17:41] boldc___ you must be using baphometos [17:47] boldc___ https://www.extremetech.com/computing/53082-onkyo-embeds-linux-in-your-living-room [17:47] TR Bot Embeds Linux in Your Living Room - ExtremeTech [17:51] boldc___ https://www.zdnet.com/article/white-house-joins-openssf-and-the-linux-foundation-in-securing-open-source-software/ [17:51] TR Bot House joins OpenSSF and the Linux Foundation in securing open-source software | ZDNet [17:52] boldc___ point 4 Memory Safety: Eliminate root causes of many vulnerabilities through the replacement of non-memory-safe languages. [17:52] boldc___ RUST FTW [17:53] MinceR snake oil ● May 14 [18:14] activelow "memory safe language"... it is the kernel/hardware-mmu/compiler which provide memory protection, NOT the "language"!!!! [18:14] bnchs activelow, true [18:15] bnchs the kernel cleans up the memory [18:16] activelow and, see for yourself, gentoo.org web-site, security advisoris of all browsers with their "memory safety" are labeled dark red vulnerable [18:16] activelow so, what is this? [18:16] bnchs memory leaks are very bad [18:16] bnchs IF the program is intended to run endlessly [18:17] activelow sure [18:17] bnchs if you're making some kind of unix shell program, then memory safety is useless as long as the kernel can clean up your used memory [18:19] bnchs but really you should free memory anyway [18:19] bnchs because sometimes the kernel doesn't know how to clean up your used memory, and the memory leak may accumlate [18:22] XRevan86 https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/05/14/were-used-to-sanctions-lavrov-says-west-has-declared-total-hybrid-war-on-russia-news ""Were used to sanctions" Lavrov says West has declared "total hybrid war" on Russia" [18:22] TR Bot . [18:22] XRevan86 Good luck with that. [18:23] boldc___ https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/335539-ice-found-to-operate-as-a-domestic-spy-agency [18:24] TR Bot Found Effectively Operating as Domestic Spy Agency - ExtremeTech [18:25] XRevan86 The Russian economy is going to shrink and continue shrinking practically indefinitely, and "we're used to sanctions". [18:27] XRevan86 https://interfax.ru/world/840837 https://t.me/mod_russia/15739 This should be addressed in the English-speaking space. [18:27] TR News 2022-05-14 Untitled webcomic: Kid gemini://gemini.locrian.zone/comic/kidding.png [18:27] TR Bot timed out after 10000 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://www.interfax.ru/world/840837 ) [18:27] TR Bot Telegram: Contact @mod_russia [18:27] XRevan86 Oh, DaemonFC is not online. He would've liked to see how full of detail this report is. [18:27] TR News Gemini Radio - Episode 41 gemini://kwiecien.us/gemcast/20220514.gmi [18:31] XRevan86 https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/05/14/russian-forces-destroy-pontoon-bridge-over-siversky-donets-river-russian-defence-ministry-claims-experts-earlier-reported-huge-losses-among-russian-troops-in-this-area-news "Russian forces destroy pontoon bridge over Siversky Donets River, Russian Defence Ministry claims. Experts earlier reported huge losses among Russian troops in this area" [18:31] TR Bot . [18:31] XRevan86 timely [18:32] XRevan86 This does look like a real operation (different place, different bridge), except that there is no evidence of any person or vehicle anywhere near the bridge when it was under attack. [18:34] XRevan86 (it is very plausible that the Ukrainian forces are also trying to cross Sieversky Donets) [18:35] XRevan86 So I think that they wrote about this, and potentially fabricated the details, to paint a picture that it is not only Russia that is suffering losses there. I don't think this will work though. [18:36] XRevan86 And of course there was no mention of the yesterday's (it wasn't ereyesterday, I was wrong because it was early and felt like a different day, sorry) huge loss. [18:38] *psydroid2 has got the Russian version of Doom 3 working with dhewm3 [18:38] psydroid2 now this will do a lot for improving my Russian, because there is no other option but to learn to understand what everything means [18:42] matey So I think that they wrote about this, and potentially fabricated the details, to paint a picture that it is not only Russia that is suffering losses there. I don't think this will work though. [18:42] matey this is pretty confusing [18:42] XRevan86 matey: I'm relying on the context that DaemonFC has provided here earlier. [18:42] matey who is fabricating? and who is it supposed to look like theyre suffering? [18:44] XRevan86 Oh, I mislinked above, this should've been the first link: https://interfax.ru/world/840828 [18:44] TR Bot timed out after 10000 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://interfax.ru/world/840828 ) [18:44] XRevan86 crap, * https://www.interfax.ru/world/840837 [18:45] XRevan86 I confused myself. [18:45] matey wwii started when germany was TRYING to make it look like poland was attacking [18:45] XRevan86 Anyway, here's the video from the Russian Ministry of Defence: https://vk.com/video-133441491_456258909 [18:45] matey by basically provoking them [18:45] TR Bot ????? ????? ? ???????.. ? Video | VK [18:46] matey there was a memo on the way to tell them to withdraw or something along those lines [18:46] matey they didnt get it, and it turned into... i mean they wanted a war either way [18:46] matey only they wanted to make it look like poland was the aggressor, not them, and thats what they fucked up (it was a sham anyway) [18:47] matey how this relates to the present situation at all, i couldnt be sure, since im really not entirely clear whats going on in the first place [18:47] XRevan86 matey: So yesterday Russian forces were attacked while they were traversing the river on a pontoon bridge, there were huge losses, tanks, people, everything. [18:47] matey ok [18:48] matey oh and they fabricated ukranian losses to save face? [18:48] XRevan86 matey: Today the Ministry of War provides this video and claims that Ukraine tried to cross the same river and they destroyed the bridge, captured the vehicles that did cross the river. [18:49] XRevan86 Appears to be a different event, as the landscape is different. [18:49] matey who would that be meant to fool? certainly not the ukranian military [18:49] XRevan86 The yesterday's event is completely unaddressed. [18:49] matey (im guessing the target of the deception by russia is russias own people) [18:50] XRevan86 So it's open to interpretation whom they actually captured and in what numbers. [18:51] XRevan86 matey: "(im guessing the target of the deception by russia is russias own people)" <- Well, naturally. [18:52] XRevan86 It's also an interesting example of how Russia and Ukraine report their successes. [18:52] matey ok [18:52] matey yeah [18:53] TR News "Somehow, I blindly accepted the Fedora prompt asking me to upgrade to Fedora 28, not realizing that: Fedora is now at release 36, not 28" https://anarc.at/blog/2022-05-13-nvme-disk-failure/ [18:53] TR Bot NVMe/SSD disk failure - anarcat [18:53] TR News "I'm not a fan of BTRFS. This page serves as a reminder of why, but also a cheat sheet to figure out basic tasks in a BTRFS environment because those are not obvious to me, even after repeatedly having to deal with them. Content warning: there might be mentions of ZFS." https://anarc.at/blog/2022-05-13-brtfs-notes/ [18:53] TR Bot BTRFS notes - anarcat [18:56] TR News mintCast: "First up in the news: Linux crosses the C; We look into Steam; Flatpak improves; Gnome gets more customizable." https://mintcast.org/2022/05/14/382-kernel-metamorphosis/ [18:56] TR Bot 382 Kernel Metamorphosis mintCast [18:56] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164842 [18:56] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [18:57] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@9qt9mcwj2jb2e.irc) has joined #techrights [18:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 17.80 k/sec., IPFS upstream 7.46 average k/sec., average swarm size 333.18 [18:59] TR News "Modern Unix derivatives have this really bad idea called ioctl. Its a function which performs arbitrary operations on a file descriptor. It is essentially the kitchen sink of modern Unix derivatives, particularly Linux, in which they act almost like a second set of extra syscalls" https://drewdevault.com/2022/05/14/generating-ioctls.html [18:59] TR Bot A Hare code generator for finding ioctl numbers [18:59] XRevan86 https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1525534611220094977 [18:59] TR Bot Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Putin-linked Kremlin propagandist explains the mystery behind the claim that Russia is fighting Nazism in Ukraine: they're actually battling "Russophobia"supposedly "a type of Nazism." By that twisted logic, Russia would consider invading any country opposing Russian aggression." | nitter ● May 14 [19:00] TR News #43 Foundation News - This Week in GNOME Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164843 [19:00] TR Bot #43 Foundation News - This Week in GNOME | Tux Machines [19:01] XRevan86 So that's what Nazism is: disagreement with Russia. [19:01] MinceR i see lavrov doesn't understand what a declaration of war is [19:02] MinceR maybe vladolf should replace him with someone who does [19:02] TR News "I want to personally extend my gratitude to the Commercial users of Qt for beta testing Qt 5.15.4 for the rest of us." https://tsdgeos.blogspot.com/2022/05/the-kde-qt5-patch-collection-has-been.html [19:02] TR Bot TSDgeos' blog: The KDE Qt5 Patch Collection has been rebased on top of Qt 5.15.4 [19:02] XRevan86 MinceR: He claims "hybrid war", which is a type of war that might not even be visible :) [19:03] TR News Ubuntu Linux the number one Linux distro for gaming? Every time less - ItsFOSS | GNU | Linux | Freesw.net https://www.itsfoss.net/ubuntu-linux-the-number-one-linux-distro-for-gaming-every-time-less/ Source: itsfoss [19:03] TR Bot Linux the number one Linux distro for gaming? Every time less - itsfoss.net [19:03] XRevan86 Welcome to World Hybrid War I [19:03] TR News Building Plasma for KDE Frameworks 6 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164844 [19:03] TR Bot Building Plasma for KDE Frameworks 6 | Tux Machines [19:03] XRevan86 Not very impressive. [19:04] TR News KDE Frameworks 5.94.0 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164836#comment-33668 [19:04] TR Bot KDE Frameworks 5.94 Released with More Than 200 Changes, Here's What's New | Tux Machines [19:04] XRevan86 Would be funny if they actually take that term that I coined ironically. [19:06] TR News 10 Fun Free and Open Source Simulation Games Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164845 [19:06] TR Bot 10 Fun Free and Open Source Simulation Games | Tux Machines [19:07] XRevan86 But it's just one step from "total hybrid war" that Lavrov coined. [19:08] XRevan86 That's a pretty interesting way of putting "everyone's shitting on Russia". [19:09] XRevan86 everyone == total; shitting == war; hybrid == not actually war [19:11] matey it reminds me of the usa saying they would justify physical military force in response to cyberattacks [19:11] matey the trouble being, how can you possibly prove there was a cyberattack [19:13] matey i mean suppose i go over to the circuit breakers and cut off my power and/or gas [19:13] XRevan86 Even so, it's a huge escalation that's hard to justify. [19:13] MinceR "hybrid" == "i don't want to say what it actually is" [19:13] matey then go and shoot someone for "attacking my infrastructure" [19:13] MinceR "hybrid kernel" == "i don't want to say it's a monolithic kernel" [19:13] matey that wouldnt hold up in any court [19:13] MinceR "hybrid regime" == "i don't want to say it's a dictatorship" [19:13] matey hybrid news [19:13] MinceR "hybrid war" == "i don't want to say it's not a war" [19:14] matey dont mention the hybrid war [19:15] matey i mentioned it once but i think i got away with it [19:15] matey "would you please stop mentioning the war?" "what are you talking about? youre the one who started it" "no we didnt" "yes you did, you invaded kiev!" [19:17] XRevan86 matey: I can't tell if this is about 1941 or 2022. [19:17] XRevan86 A little more context please? [19:18] XRevan86 More likely to be 1941 since the contemporary occupation of Kiew failed to occur. [19:19] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [19:19] chicksahoy isn't it Kyiv and not Kiev [19:20] XRevan86 Depends on whether it's transliteration or transcription, and on which language and which time period. [19:21] chicksahoy Ukraine calls it Kyiv, Russia calls it Kiev [19:21] chicksahoy fuck Russia [19:21] MinceR it's Kyiv in Ukrainian [19:21] XRevan86 The historical name is "Kyev", the contemporary Ukrainian spelling is "Kyiv" (actually "Kyyiv"), the contemporary Russian spelling is "Kiev" (actually "Kiyev"), the contemporary Russian pronunciation is "Kiyiv" (well, "Kiyif"). [19:21] MinceR orcs pretend they own it and call it Kiev [19:22] XRevan86 the Polish spelling is "Kiew" [19:22] matey matey: I can't tell if this is about 1941 or 2022. <- fawlty towers didnt make it to russia, at least not in your time [19:22] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164846 [19:22] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [19:22] matey it was john cleese, with a concussion, arguing with a family of germans about the war [19:22] XRevan86 Also because it's a vowel reduction, in other cases there's a difference: to be in Kiew in Ukrainian would be "w Kyyevi" [19:22] matey in the 70s (the plot) [19:23] matey so kyiv then [19:23] matey theres only one reason i spell it kiev, and it isnt political [19:23] matey in the west, its how the chicken is usually spelled (for most of my lifetime) [19:23] matey its a dish, chicken kiev. i think. [19:24] XRevan86 I dislike pronunciation quirks seeping into loanwords, that's my only reason against "Kyiv". [19:24] matey so its only a force of habit, not a political statement [19:24] matey well what do you recommend as a ukranian spelling then? [19:24] XRevan86 English is not phonetic, and it is phonetically very distinct. [19:24] matey im sort of impartial here [19:24] matey english has no rules, but it does make up a few [19:24] XRevan86 "Kyev" is the most faithful spelling. [19:25] matey and how does it sit with ukranians? [19:25] XRevan86 matey: Too nerdy. [19:25] matey ill think about it [19:25] matey anyway, thanks for keeping us informed [19:25] matey cheers [19:26] *matey has quit (connection closed) [19:26] XRevan86 I'm somewhat interested in phonology, so my perspective on this is different from well, everyone else's. [19:27] XRevan86 To me a loanword into English should fit best into the English context, not the context of the source. [19:28] XRevan86 And usually the most conservative eldest form of spelling/pronunciation is the best fit, as languages tend to diverge. [19:30] XRevan86 Odds are Ukrainian pronunciation may change again (as happens with every language), and what then, re-loan the new version every time? [19:30] XRevan86 But I do recognise the political reasoning, and that's something I cannot go against. [19:37] TR News Openwashing nonsense https://opensource.com/article/22/5/b-corp-open-source [19:37] TR Bot reasons to apply for B Corp certification | Opensource.com [19:41] MinceR 14 202211 < XRevan86> the Polish spelling is "Kiew" [19:41] MinceR i thought it was Kiw [19:41] XRevan86 MinceR: Oh, they jo'd it? I forgot in that case. [19:41] MinceR or something like that [19:41] TR News "We are back to a quick pace and reached 2800 games soon after the 2700 games milestone." https://boilingsteam.com/2800-games-steam-deck/ [19:42] TR Bot 2800 Games On The Steam Deck with Days Gone and House of the Dying Sun as Verified - Boiling Steam [19:42] MinceR no, it's Kijw [19:42] TR News It's FOSS is foolishly promoting PROPRIETARY Microsoft PROXY "DuckDuckGo" https://itsfoss.com/duckduckgo-easter-eggs/ Avoid this nasty, lying company: http://techrights.org/wiki/DuckDuckGo [19:42] TR Bot Hidden Features! 25 Fun Things You Can Do With DuckDuckGo Search Engine - It's FOSS [19:42] TR Bot DuckDuckGo - Techrights [19:43] XRevan86 MinceR: jejo is a common Slavic phonetic change, right. And ou is a Polish specific one. [19:43] MinceR pronounced /ki.juf/ [19:43] TR News They hardly test, they just release very often and make it impssible to fork/avoid https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=systemd-251-rc3 [19:43] TR Bot 251 Nears Release With Last Planned Test - Phoronix [19:45] XRevan86 https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Przeg%C5%82os_lechicki no English article, bummer [19:45] TR Bot Przegos lechicki Wikipedia, wolna encyklopedia [19:46] TR News Shortwave 3 expands radio station setups http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164643#comment-33669 [19:46] TR Bot Shortwave 3.0 Free Radio Player Comes with Support for GNOME 42 | Tux Machines [19:47] *rianne_ (~rianne@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights [19:47] *asusbox (~rianne@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights [19:48] XRevan86 https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/#Old_East_Slavic source [19:48] TR Bot - Wiktionary [19:51] XRevan86 MinceR: That's kind of why pronetic changes are a mess to re-loan. [19:51] XRevan86 But Polish spelling froze up on the second iteration anyway I guess. [19:52] TR News f2fscrypt utility compiled statically in OE https://bkhome.org/news/202205/f2fscrypt-utility-compiled-statically-in-oe.html Source: bkhome [19:52] TR Bot f2fscrypt utility compiled statically in OE [19:52] XRevan86 I wonder where Latin got its Kiov. [19:52] TR News Fridays Fedora Facts: 2022-19 – Fedora Community [sic] Blog https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fridays-fedora-facts-2022-19/ Source: ICBM [19:52] TR Bot Friday's Fedora Facts: 2022-19 Fedora Community Blog [19:54] TR News They call it "OpenJPEG" but OUTSOURCE to PROPRIETARY and Microsoft... what does "Open" mean??? https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OpenJPEG-2.5-Brings-HTJ2K [19:54] TR Bot 2.5 Released With High Throughput JPEG 2000 Decoding (HTJ2K) - Phoronix [19:55] TR News radeonsi: scale the number of shader compiler threads https://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/commit/?id=e549b6fe42c45efa6e2625cef7c328cb6a6a4319 [19:55] TR Bot mesa/mesa - The Mesa 3D Graphics Library (mirrored from https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa) [19:56] *asusbox has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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[21:00] *asusbox (~rianne@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights [21:05] TR News Microsoft makes and distributes its own password stealer https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/14/eternity-project-malware-sale/ see http://techrights.org/2021/11/17/microsoft-password-stealer/ [21:05] TR Bot Shopping for malware: $260 gets you a password stealer... The Register [21:05] TR Bot Bruce Schneier: Microsoft Edge is Apparently a Password Stealer Too, Even on GNU/Linux | Techrights [21:05] TR News Digital Restrictions (DRM) https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/02/ukrainian_tractors_deere/ [21:05] TR Bot Ukrainian John Deere tractors stolen by Russia 'bricked' The Register [21:07] TR News Neither is safe. They even have back doors (PSP/ME) https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/12/intel_amd_security/ [21:07] TR Bot How Intel and AMD hope to win the cloud security game The Register [21:17] *asusbox has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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[21:25] *asusbox (~rianne@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights [21:27] boldc___ ChangeLog 1.19 MB [21:31] MinceR (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl4Ar-Gc9eI [21:31] TR Bot https://invidious.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=Jl4Ar-Gc9eI [21:31] TR Bot invidious.mutahar.rocks | Rasputin of the Bronx: The Unkillable Iron Mike Malloy - Invidious [21:34] schestowitz-TR boldc___: yes [21:34] *asusbox has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [21:34] schestowitz-TR boldc___: url? [21:34] *asusbox (~rianne@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights [21:34] schestowitz-TR I saw no blog post about that [21:34] schestowitz-TR just deadbeef [21:34] schestowitz-TR [20:39] DeaDBeeF 1.9.0 Released! #HowTo install it in Ubuntu 22.04 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164852 [21:34] boldc___ https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/rhythmbox/-/blob/master/ChangeLog?expanded=true&viewer=simple [21:34] TR Bot ChangeLog master GNOME / rhythmbox GitLab [21:36] boldc___ how can you possibly manage your ipod with out rhythmbox? [21:38] MinceR i don't have an ipod [21:38] MinceR and not going to have one either [21:38] boldc___ deadbeef must be developed by some vegan dev [21:38] boldc___ me neither [21:39] boldc___ IOS is genom devs dream DE [21:39] boldc___ what ipod ever done to you ? [21:40] MinceR i never let them do anything to me [21:41] boldc___ rhythmbox has remote functionality too [21:41] boldc___ daap mpris [21:42] boldc___ its a itunes "clone" basically [21:42] *asusbox has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [21:42] *asusbox (~rianne@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights [21:51] *asusbox has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [21:51] *asusbox (~rianne@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights [21:54] bnchs fuck ipods [21:54] bnchs you want to listen to music? [21:54] bnchs go uhhhhhhhhhh uhhhhhhh uh fuck [21:55] bnchs bring a raspberry pi connected to a battery [21:56] MinceR i used to listen to music on a Palm Tungsten E2 [21:57] TR News No kidding, Microsoft now charges firms to tackle Windows ransomware https://itwire.com/open-sauce/no-kidding,-microsoft-now-charges-firms-to-tackle-windows-ransomware.html [21:57] TR Bot - No kidding, Microsoft now charges firms to tackle Windows ransomware [21:57] MinceR then on various smartphones [21:57] TR News Not OUR back doors? https://itwire.com/technology-regulation/us-steps-up-fresh-probe-into-kaspersky-products-report.html [21:57] TR Bot - US steps up fresh probe into Kaspersky products: report [21:59] *asusbox has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) ● May 14 [22:00] *asusbox (~rianne@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights [22:07] schestowitz-TR MinceR: realplayer? [22:09] TR News Changes in the Site and the Capsule | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/14/toc-toc/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/14/toc-toc/ [22:09] TR Bot Changes in the Site and the Capsule | Techrights [22:09] schestowitz-TR it's hard to get palm PDAs to work like in 2022 [22:10] schestowitz-TR partly because of desktop side sofwtare [22:10] schestowitz-TR jpilot, kpilot, and the Windows equivs [22:10] schestowitz-TR and finding the binaries is even harder [22:12] *zleap has quit (Quit: Leaving) [22:13] TR News Asahi Linux on Apple Silicon shows progress in graphics drivers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164698#comment-33674 [22:13] TR Bot Asahi Linux progress in graphics drivers on Apple's M1 | Tux Machines [22:13] TR News This repeats false numbers about Twitter's usage https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/buffalo/ap-online/2022/05/14/as-musk-buyout-looms-twitter-searches-for-its-soul [22:13] TR Bot As Musk buyout looms, Twitter searches for its soul [22:14] MinceR schestowitz-TR: no, but i forgot what the audio player was that could continue playing in the background [22:14] MinceR iirc pomod could play .mod files, but only in the foreground [22:14] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [22:14] MinceR 14 230956 < schestowitz-TR> it's hard to get palm PDAs to work like in 2022 [22:14] MinceR yeah, bricks are like that [22:14] TR News Arm wrests back control of its rogue China limb - El Reg https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/29/arm_china_ceo_ousted/ Source: theregister [22:14] TR Bot Arm wrests back control of its rogue China limb The Register [22:14] MinceR maybe it can still show a palm logo and a blinking rectangle under it [22:15] TR News Arm says microcontroller price hikes helped fuel sales - El Reg https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/13/arm_results_ipo/ Source: theregister [22:15] TR Bot Arm says microcontroller price hikes helped fuel sales The Register [22:15] schestowitz-TR MinceR: apple did not even have pseudo-multitasking years later [22:15] schestowitz-TR iphone was the REAL brick [22:15] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techrights [22:15] schestowitz-TR with no REALPlayer [22:15] MinceR yeah [22:16] MinceR MICROS~1 had it for a while, then they decided they've got to copy crApple and came up with an OS that didn't have it, iirc [22:16] TR News It got ugly at ARM https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/03/arm_china_staff_protest/ https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/05/arm_china_ceo_stays/ [22:16] TR Bot Arm China staff protest new management The Register [22:16] TR Bot Arm China CEO refuses to go despite SoftBank taking control The Register [22:16] *asusbox has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [22:17] *asusbox (~rianne@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights [22:18] TR News HAHAHAHAHAHA! "alternative cryptocurrency projects (altcoins) are but an experiment, while Bitcoin is the only tried and tested peer-to-peer digital money." What do you mean, "alternative cryptocurrency"? You claim to be the alternative to real currency. https://bitcoinmagazine.com/markets/terra-collapse-teaches-about-crypto-and-bitcoin [22:18] TR Bot Terra Collapse Teaches About Crypto And Bitcoin - Bitcoin Magazine: Bitcoin News, Articles, Charts, and Guides [22:19] TR News Go away, Gulag. Stop stealing data. https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/05/google_eu_sovereign/ [22:19] TR Bot Google goes after sovereignty market with EU Workspace Data The Register [22:21] TR News Crackpot measuring servers only if they are pabeled "CLOWN" and counting "REVENUE" (likely faked) instead of ACTUAL share. https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/02/cloud_market_share_q1_2022/ [22:21] TR Bot AWS, Google and Microsoft dominate cloud The Register [22:21] TR News Microsoft Azure = layoffs and datacentre closures. [22:22] TR News Microsoft revenue: bailouts from Trump and Biden. IOW, stealing from the US treasury. Corruption in politics. [22:23] TR News But most computers do not use x86. https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/13/amd_intel_x86/ [22:23] TR Bot AMD approaches '30%' x86 CPU market share The Register [22:25] *asusbox has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [22:25] *asusbox (~rianne@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights [22:25] psydroid2 30 billion ARM chips in the past year, all conveniently ignored for AMD's biggest x86 marketshare ever [22:27] TR News "There's tons of terminal apps with color nowadays but no consistent standard for disabling that color in the many cases where it isn't needed, NO_COLOR aims to fix that." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=svLA3yJQnlM [22:27] TR Bot This Is A Growing Standard To Disable Terminal Color - Invidious [22:29] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [22:29] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164857 [22:29] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [22:32] TR News Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164858 [22:32] TR Bot Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [22:32] TR News A 10-minute explanation of what weve been up to lately and whats changing; hopefully Ill have a lot more free time in months to come and well be able to produce about a dozen posts per day http://techrights.org/2022/05/14/toc-toc/ [22:32] TR Bot Changes in the Site and the Capsule | Techrights [22:34] *asusbox has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [22:34] *asusbox2 (~rianne@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights [22:36] TR News Crosswords 0.3 by Jonathan Blandford Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164859 [22:36] TR Bot Crosswords 0.3 by Jonathan Blandford | Tux Machines [22:36] schestowitz-TR psydroid2: yes, the usual slant [22:36] schestowitz-TR like counting "Share" by revenue [22:36] schestowitz-TR to make GNU/Linux seem small [22:36] schestowitz-TR and relying on companies reporting on money [22:37] schestowitz-TR of course they fake it [22:42] *asusbox2 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [22:43] *asusbox2 (~rianne@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights [22:44] TR News Microsoft keeps transmitting malware https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/12/npm-attacks-code-white-jfrog/ [22:44] TR Bot Mystery of industry-focused backdoored NPM packages solved The Register [22:47] psydroid2 someone I know told me that he migrated several Postgres databases in the AWS clown to Graviton a few days ago and that expenses were multiple times lower now [22:48] schestowitz-TR still paying amazon [22:48] schestowitz-TR and the databases do not comply with rules except the ones GAFAM lobbied for [22:48] schestowitz-TR because "outsourcing to US Army" = security [22:49] psydroid2 that's true, but I didn't ask about his employer's reasons for doing things in the clown [22:49] psydroid2 he did tell me he plans to migrate everything at home to ARM as well [22:50] schestowitz-TR the clown is ripoff [22:50] schestowitz-TR if not now, then later [22:51] *asusbox2 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [22:51] *asusbox2 (~rianne@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights [22:53] TR News ICBM transatlantic https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/11/mayflower_autonomous_ship/ [22:53] TR Bot IBM's autonomous Mayflower ship breaks down again The Register [22:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.00 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.80 average k/sec., average swarm size 386.71 ● May 14 [23:04] boldc___ https://edition.cnn.com/us/live-news/buffalo-supermarket-mass-shooting/index.html [23:04] TR Bot Live updates: Mass shooting at Buffalo supermarket [23:05] boldc___ too bad donald trump wasnt there to stop the shooter [23:06] bnchs "gonna shoot up a supermarket" [23:07] bnchs *a helicopter approaches the shooter* [23:07] bnchs *donald trump comes out* [23:07] bnchs "no you shall not" [23:07] bnchs "understandable" [23:07] bnchs then everyone clapped that day [23:08] boldc___ i remenber him say after a shooting that if it was him there he would oppose the shooter even if he was unarmed [23:08] *asusbox2 has quit (connection closed) [23:08] *asusbox2 (~rianne@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights [23:08] boldc___ a true american hero [23:15] XRevan86 https://gajim.org/post/2022-05-11-gajim-1.4.0-released/ [23:15] TR Bot Gajim 1.4.0 - Gajim [23:16] bnchs nice [23:16] *asusbox2 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [23:17] XRevan86 A huge release, I will try it out. [23:17] *asusbox2 (~rianne@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights [23:17] bnchs XRevan86, whats your XMPP [23:25] *asusbox2 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [23:25] *asusbox2 (~rianne@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights [23:29] DaemonFC People are moving over to AMD due to cost, performance by watt, compatibility, and the fact that it's less of a piece of shit than Intel. [23:30] DaemonFC Intel keeps sabotaging things after they sell them. [23:30] DaemonFC They design them to be fast but insecure, pay people to benchmark them, sell the CPUs based on those benchmarks, and then release the updates that close the holes at the cost of 40% of your CPU performance. [23:31] DaemonFC Matthew Judas GAFAM praises them for it, repeatedly. "TPM, EFI, etc." [23:33] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:33] DaemonFC It's like his buddy Miguel said at his 1997 Microsoft interview (the one at which he was not hired), "You should open source Internet Explorer and let other people fix it for you for free!". Maybe it was simple naivete or something. Who knows? Microsoft didn't care if it crashed, they didn't care if it automatically installed malware because you visited a website or loaded some email, what they cared about was jamming their own non-standards [23:33] DaemonFC into it and then making it impossible for anyone else to figure out how it worked. [23:33] psydruid I will get a few of those RK3588 boards next year and see how much software I can get to run on them [23:33] DaemonFC And if you open source it, maybe people fix your bugs, but you also can't hide how your anti-competitive shit works. [23:34] DaemonFC So on the whole, they didn't open source it because it would have harmed them more than it helped. [23:35] psydruid I think each and every proprietary game should be reverse engineered and made to run everywhere to kill the stranglehold Intel and AMD have over the desktop [23:35] psydruid And then they can die for all I care [23:36] bnchs psydruid, game engines? [23:37] psydruid bnchs, everything needed for running them, if that is just the game engines I am also fine with it [23:37] bnchs i mean there's only been like reverse engineering of GTA 3/VC, GoldSrc-based games, morrowwind, and other crap [23:37] psydruid I compiled dhewm3 earlier today and now I have it running on my laptop [23:38] bnchs the problem is that some of them are suffering legal problems [23:38] psydruid I don't know when I'll have the time to play it but I know it works at least [23:38] bnchs like FWGS Xash3D [23:38] psydruid they are suffering problems also by being based on Github [23:39] bnchs some of their header files are illegally copied from Valve's SDK [23:39] bnchs which is incompatible with their GPL license [23:39] bnchs so they're hoping they don't get sued to death by Valve [23:39] psydruid and yes, it is not the ultimate solution [23:40] psydruid the real solution would be writing free games with free assets [23:40] psydruid we'll see how that develops [23:40] *boldc___ runs off to install quake3arena [23:40] bnchs https://github.com/gtamodding/re3 [23:40] TR Bot ( status 451 @ https://github.com/gtamodding/re3 ) [23:41] bnchs 451 = down for legal reasons [23:41] bnchs they already got sued by rockstar [23:41] bnchs i guess [23:41] psydruid I have that code on my laptop [23:42] psydruid I checked it out before it was taken down [23:42] bnchs https://github.com/FWGS/xash3d-fwgs/issues/63 [23:42] TR Bot issues Issue #63 FWGS/xash3d-fwgs GitHub [23:42] bnchs "The engine is somewhat notorious for making use of leaked source code, and indeed Valve as supposedly remarked that the engine as it stands is illegal (though I have yet to personally corroborate that.) This is troublesome because I want to use xash3D for a commercial project, so as it currently stands that dream is unworkable. But what if it wasn't?" [23:42] *asusbox2 has quit (connection closed) [23:42] *asusbox2 (~rianne@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights [23:42] bnchs "The thing is, we can't rewrite them by ourselves, as we already seen the HLSDK and any rewrite attempt may be considered as illegal relicensing of copypasted code." [23:42] bnchs Xash3D is at a stand-still [23:42] bnchs they're at a dead end [23:43] boldc___ rockstar PD is gona swat you psydruid [23:43] bnchs it will only be a matter of time before they get sued by valve [23:43] psydruid I haven't looked at any of this code or any other proprietary code ever [23:43] bnchs they came up with a solution [23:43] bnchs "Hiring a lawyers, so they can check if nothing of Valve's IP was leaked." [23:43] psydruid sure, they can come and get me [23:44] bnchs "Hiring a programmer to write headers based on our documentation and asking for a agreement that he or she doesn't even seen Half-Life code and will not copy code from SDK." [23:44] bnchs this would probably save them [23:45] bnchs but unfortunately they haven't applied it yet [23:45] bnchs and the illegal header files are still in the codebase [23:46] boldc___ make a VR version [23:49] boldc___ arent modern opensource game engines supposed to be better that valav outdated engine? [23:50] bnchs lol they're trying to reverse engineer valve's goldsrc engine [23:50] psydruid I have compiled Godot, but I will only be able to take a look at it this summer [23:51] bnchs and be more compatible with GoldSrc/Half-Life games [23:51] psydruid yeah [23:51] bnchs also VR version in your dreams [23:51] bnchs reverse engineer the drivers for most VR headsets :P [23:51] psydruid I think it's better to get inspiration from games and write new free ones [23:52] psydruid instead of going through all this reverse engineering [23:52] psydruid unless you want to preserve them for some reason [23:53] psydruid OpenHMD makes VR headsets work [23:53] bnchs xash3D was intended to preserve goldsrc games [23:53] bnchs or help make more goldsrc games [23:53] psydruid I met some of the developers at FOSDEM a few years ago [23:59] *asusbox2 has quit (connection closed) [23:59] psydruid > [notice] License issues Issue #63 FWGS/xash3d-fwgs GitHub [23:59] psydruid I'm reading this issue and the solution looks really simple to me [23:59] *asusbox2 (~rianne@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights