●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 ●● ● Jul 14 [00:01] techrights-news #googlenews is nowadays yielding almost as much #plagiarism as #microsoft does with #github ... those companies both lobby against the GPL while bribing GPL enforcers: http://techrights.org/2020/11/02/sfc-morality/ [00:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Software Freedom Conservancy Needs to Resign From Microsoft Before Telling Microsoft to Resign From RIAA | Techrights [00:04] techrights-news Guitar? Yeah, I Dabble | The New Yorker https://www.newyorker.com/humor/daily-shouts/guitar-yeah-i-dabble #newyorker | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/07/14/#latest [00:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newyorker.com | Guitar? Yeah, I Dabble | The New Yorker [00:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [00:05] techrights-news #RalphNader Can't Slow Down https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/a36754865/ralph-nader-cant-slow-down/ [00:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.roadandtrack.com | Ralph Nader Can't Slow Down [00:08] techrights-news #RMS on #overpopulation -- a "hard" subject: "Uttar Pradesh is considering a two-children-per-family law. Reducing the number of births would be a good goal, but doing it by punishing the children when a family is overlarge is a cruel method of doing so." https://stallman.org/archives/2021-may-aug.html#13_July_2021_(Two_children_per_family) [00:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: May - August Political Notes - Richard Stallman [00:11] techrights-news US national debt leaping almost half a TRILLION dollars in just month... with inflation rates now exceeding 6%. #corporateMedia pretends all is well while the US economy is down the toilet and only about 60% of adults finding employment https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/government-debt [00:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tradingeconomics.com | United States Government Debt | 1942-2021 Data | 2022-2023 Forecast | Historical [00:14] techrights-news Oligarchs-owned media will always tell the 'unwashed masses' ('plebs', 'peasants') that a society and an economy governed by oligarchs ("job creators", "philanthropists" who commit tax fraud) for he benefit of oligarchs is sweet cream and mellow jelly. If you don't agree, you're just "lazy" or "commie" #corporateMedia #misinformation #indoctrination [00:16] techrights-news And media owned by people with a fleet of butlers and toilet cleaners tells us that people who refuse to (literally) clean their shit are "lazy"... let that "sink in"... [00:27] techrights-news It is worrying some people think they can really get their 'news' from #socialcontrrolmedia (which was never really designed to be media). This is harming people's understanding of their surroundings. And we know who games those platforms: their true owners. Not even subjected to journalistic standards anymore. [00:29] techrights-news Reminder: as per caselaw, #Twitter owns and controls ALL Twitter accounts, irrespective of the names of these accounts. And Twitter's business model is selling influence/control over those millions of accounts. #billgates is a client: http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/bill-gates-pays-twitter/ [00:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Reality is Warped When You Pay for Perception Management (or: Bill Gates Pays Twitter for Propaganda) | Techrights [00:30] techrights-news I see some #microsoft #propaganda rags like #AnalyticsIndiaMagazine promoting a fictional value of Microsoft, which is DEFRAUDING shareholders: http://techrights.org/2020/07/23/microsoft-defrauding-again/ [00:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft is Defrauding Its Shareholders While Laying Off About 5,000 Workers | Techrights [00:32] techrights-news "Sponsored Features" = BS spam, made to look like 'journalism'. THIS is what's killing the news. https://www.accountantsdaily.com.au/sponsored-features/15918-why-businesses-need-to-change-their-approach-to-management-post-covid also see http://techrights.org/2020/10/18/news-as-spam/ [00:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accountantsdaily.com.au | Why Businesses Need to Change Their Approach to Management Post-COVID | Accountants Daily [00:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Different Types of Spammy Articles and Reviews Which Have Killed Professional Journalism (Nowadays Mostly SPAM) | Techrights [00:35] techrights-news "This is what the then head of the AC and present VP5 thought of the new strike regulations" http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/07/13/ilo-epo-president-battistelli-abused-his-power-in-restraining-workers-right-to-strike/#comments #germany #corruption #crime #epo http://techrights.org/2021/04/16/bundestagate-part-20/ [00:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | ILO: EPO president Battistelli abused his power in restraining workers right to strike - Kluwer Patent Blog [00:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPOLeaks on Misleading the Bundestag Part 20: Taking Stock | Techrights [00:36] techrights-news Reminder: #epo is run by CRIMINALS to commit CRIME in Germany, exploiting DIPLOMATIC immunity as Europe's SECOND-LARGEST institution. We know who benefits and #patents have become their #ShellGame http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EPO [00:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO - Techrights [00:37] techrights-news "I cannot avoid to remark that in five years the Agreement could have been amended, when the team UPC tried to square the circle" http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/07/10/unified-patent-court-a-lot-closer-after-decision-german-fcc/#comments [00:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Unified Patent Court a lot closer after decision German FCC - Kluwer Patent Blog [00:40] techrights-news "The #UPC proponents should not gloat too early. There are still a number of problems which can delay the entry into force of the UPC, be it only the problem of the London Section or the fact that all the various protocols still mention the UK expressis verbis." http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/07/09/german-fcc-no-preliminary-injunction-against-ratification-of-agreement-on-a-unified-patent-court/#comments [00:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | German FCC: No preliminary injunction against ratification of Agreement on a Unified Patent Court - Kluwer Patent Blog [00:42] techrights-news "The next planned budget provides 6 Millions of Euros to get legal advice against the staff!" http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/07/13/ilo-epo-president-battistelli-abused-his-power-in-restraining-workers-right-to-strike/#comments see http://techrights.org/2021/05/18/epo-lawyering-up-against-staff/ [00:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Antnio Campinos is Already Worse Than Benot Battistelli and Maybe More Aggressive as Well | Techrights [00:44] techrights-news You know #journalism is dead/captured/corrupt in areas/topics where comments are a lot better and far more accurate than articles/blog posts/law firms' "opinions". #lobbying #misinformation #teamupc #unitarypatent [00:45] techrights-news #eu should fry the #de / #germany government for what it did regarding #epo but in reality EU is captured partly by the German government, so EU too covers up many EPO crimes. http://techrights.org/2021/04/16/bundestagate-part-20/ [00:47] techrights-news #teamupc did and still does bamboozle a lot of people. #bristowsLLC the worst of the bunch IME. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Bristows_LLP #lobbying #misinformation #unitarypatent [00:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bristows LLP - Techrights [00:49] techrights-news Shameless self-promotion by a patching firm, #clownLinux https://linuxsecurity.com/features/the-state-of-vulnerability-management-and-patching-in-the-enterprise-environment [00:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxsecurity.com | The State of Vulnerability Management and Patching in The Enterpr. [00:50] techrights-news #Debian #XMPP Team: XMPP Novelties in Debian 11 Bullseye https://xmpp-team.pages.debian.net/blog/2021/07/xmpp-novelties-in-debian-11-bullseye.html [00:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xmpp-team.pages.debian.net | XMPP Novelties in Debian 11 Bullseye - Bits from the Debian XMPP Team [00:52] techrights-news The most famous Battistelli -- not the criminal from #epo -- is going places https://www.thechristianbeat.org/gods-not-dead-we-the-people-movie-coming-this-fall/ will the criminal ever be arrested before his death? http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Beno%C3%AEt_Battistelli [00:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Empty reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.thechristianbeat.org/gods-not-dead-we-the-people-movie-coming-this-fall/ ) [00:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Benot Battistelli - Techrights [00:59] techrights-news Expect more #UPC complaints to come. Sorry for the spoiler, #teamUPC ;-) ● Jul 14 [01:02] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 19.95 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 38.23 swarm size (avg): 288.71 [01:04] DaemonFC Okay, I got my computer back from Lenovo. [01:04] *KindOne has quit (Quit: K-Lined) [01:04] DaemonFC They replaced the entire board. [01:29] *KindOne (kindone@user/kindone) has joined #techrights [01:36] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:37] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:44] DaemonFC Fuck. [01:44] DaemonFC I updated my BIOS and Windows comes back with a BSOD with inaccessible boot device. [01:45] *rianne_ (~rianne@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [01:45] DaemonFC So I booted from a recovery stick and told it to recover Windows from the recovery partition. :/ [01:46] DaemonFC We'll see if that works. [01:46] DaemonFC It's almost done. 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It is about to be added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with CID [03:08] *job (~job@dp7f67t65wq76.irc) has joined #techrights [03:09] techrights-ipfs-bot QmNxnvJey55AAuFVenrZxVPSX76eF5wHTJH3VJBhafac33 [03:09] *pandakekok9 (~job@user/job) has joined #techrights [03:12] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [03:24] *KindOne has quit (Excess Flood) [03:24] *KindOne (kindone@user/kindone) has joined #techrights [03:25] DaemonFC I got it working again. [03:28] DaemonFC https://www.consumerreports.org/extended-warranties/extended-warranty-for-laptop-should-you-buy/ [03:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.consumerreports.org | Should You Buy an Extended Warranty for a Laptop? - Consumer Reports [03:28] DaemonFC According to Consumer Reports, only 15% of people who buy an extended warranty for a PC laptop actually use it, and 7% for a Mac. [03:28] DaemonFC So is the Mac hardware more reliable? [03:28] DaemonFC Apple also charges more, so if they really are that reliable, they've got a license to print money with AppleCare. 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[08:58] techrights-news Excellent Utilities: tldr simplified and community-driven man pages http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153368 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [08:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Excellent Utilities: tldr simplified and community-driven man pages | Tux Machines [08:58] techrights-news #ContentManagement : #SocialControl Networks, Customer Relationship Management, and #WordPress 5.8 Release Candidate 3 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153370 [08:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Content Management: Social Control Networks, Customer Relationship Management, and WordPress 5.8 Release Candidate 3 | Tux Machines [08:59] techrights-news #Debian : #XMPP , GSoC, Puppy http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153369 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [08:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian: XMPP, GSoC, Puppy | Tux Machines [08:59] techrights-news #IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, July 13, 2021 http://techrights.org/2021/07/14/irc-log-130721/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/07/14/irc-log-130721/ [08:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, July 13, 2021 | Techrights ● Jul 14 [09:00] techrights-news #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153365 #Linux #TuxMachines [09:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [09:00] techrights-news Audiocasts/Shows: LINUX Unplugged, mintCast, and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153366 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [09:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: LINUX Unplugged, mintCast, and More | Tux Machines [09:00] gustaf I don't understand it [09:00] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153367 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [09:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [09:01] gustaf but then, I don't grok JS [09:01] gustaf I dunno if it's using IRC as an auth layer? [09:01] gustaf one of the "apps" is an IRC client [09:01] activelow cannot follow his intents either [09:01] gustaf and one is an editor [09:01] gustaf so I edit text and it's saved... on an IRC server? [09:03] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.55 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 78.05 swarm size (avg): 288.33 [09:04] activelow there is some javascript client to write bot code with, inside any browser or other javasript runtime [09:04] techrights-news #mintCast 365 Upgrade Time https://mintcast.org/2021/07/14/mintcast-365-upgrade-time/ #gnu #linux [09:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mintcast.org | mintCast 365 Upgrade Time mintCast [09:04] techrights-news #Grub2config replaces #Grub4Dos https://bkhome.org/news/202107/grub2config-replaces-grub4dos.html #debian (based) #gnu #linux [09:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | Grub2config replaces Grub4Dos [09:05] techrights-news Ezra Boley and Finn Kuusisto have designed an Arduino Uno shield, which uses a series of conductive pads that pick up electrical signals from a users muscles and feeds that data through a set of filters. [09:05] techrights-news "The third release candidate for WordPress 5.8 is now available! #WordPress 5.8 is slated for release on July 20, 2021, and we need your help to get thereif you have not tried 5.8 yet, now is the time!" https://wordpress.org/news/2021/07/wordpress-5-8-release-candidate-3/ [09:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-News WordPress 5.8 Release Candidate 3 WordPress.org [09:06] techrights-news 10 #freeSW #CRM solutions for #Healthcare https://medevel.com/10-open-source-crm-solutions-for-healthcare/ [09:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | 10 Open-source CRM solutions for Healthcare [09:07] activelow for this some type of IDE is available, to write javascript code with, and a text-ui type irc client written in javascript too [09:07] gustaf OK I guess an integrated environment for coding IRC bots is something that has value [09:08] activelow i don't feel comfortable with the ide any irc bot can be injected into a browser session with javascript, with full access to the DOM tree and whatnot [09:08] activelow *idea [09:09] gustaf yeah I'm staying away [09:09] gustaf the security issues are ... many [09:09] activelow in the api coding examples "crypto" coin things are mentioned, could imagine some distributed crypto mining can be coordinated with this too [09:10] gustaf oh god [09:10] gustaf crypto mining is a plague [09:11] activelow injecting "crypto mining" routines into a browser session, hijack foreign processing power, and then coordinate this with irc bot code [09:11] activelow this is how it looks like [09:11] gustaf Make Malware Great Again [09:11] activelow although i didn't see any javascript code for crypto mining routines in the examples yet [09:12] techrights-news #Techrights Bulletin for Tuesday, July 13, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [09:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives [09:13] techrights-news Linuxs Awkward News Phase | #LINUXUnplugged 414 https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/145557/linuxs-awkward-news-phase-linux-unplugged-414/ #gnu #linux [09:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jupiterbroadcasting.com | Linux's Awkward News Phase | LINUX Unplugged 414 | Jupiter Broadcasting [09:13] techrights-news #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [09:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index [09:14] activelow iirc current freenoe owner was involved with some crypto business associate (mtgox?) [09:14] activelow here is one example https://hackerbits.com/programming/cryptojacking-javascript/ [09:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerbits.com | Cryptojacking with JavaScript - Hacker Bits [09:16] activelow https://remotes.irc.com/api#examples_cryptocurrency [09:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-remotes.irc.com | API for Remotes - IRC [09:18] techrights-news #Oracle clown sucks https://ariadne.space/2021/07/14/oracle-cloud-sucks/ "if you use their service, you are at risk of losing your hosting at any time, for any reason they choose to invent" [09:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ariadne.space | Oracle cloud sucks Ariadne's Space [09:18] techrights-news Numerous [09:19] techrights-news Steam Client Update Brings Numerous Linux Fixes, More Controller Additions https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Steam-13-July-2021 [09:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Steam Client Update Brings Numerous Linux Fixes, More Controller Additions - Phoronix [09:19] techrights-news " #Kubernetes 1.22, due for release in August 2021, will remove a number of deprecated APIs. Kubernetes 1.22 Release Information has details on the schedule for the v1.22 release." https://kubernetes.io/blog/2021/07/14/upcoming-changes-in-kubernetes-1-22/ [09:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kubernetes.io | Kubernetes API and Feature Removals In 1.22: Heres What You Need To Know | Kubernetes [09:20] gustaf to be fair, mining and speculating in coins can be separate [09:22] techrights-news Moving AWAY from #microsoft #proprietarySoftware and #DirectX https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/07/stadia-gets-more-generous-revenue-models-plus-a-porting-toolkit-for-directx-to-vulkan [09:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Stadia gets more generous revenue models plus a porting toolkit for DirectX to Vulkan | GamingOnLinux [09:23] techrights-news #Freenode Introducing Remotes https://freenode.net/news/introducing-remotes #irc #javascript [09:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freenode.net | Introducing Remotes - freenode [09:28] techrights-news NEWS #JeremyMorgan #Ubuntu Pop!_OS 21.04 First Impressions http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153371 [09:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Pop!_OS 21.04 First Impressions | Tux Machines [09:28] techrights-news NEWS #BigBlueButton #education How #K12 is different from Higher Education https://bigbluebutton.org/2021/07/12/how-k12-is-different-from-higher-education/ [09:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bigbluebutton.org | How K12 is different from Higher Education - BigBlueButton - Open Source Web Conferencing [09:29] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [09:29] techrights-news NEWS #ChronicleOfHigherEducation #edX #MIT and #Harvard Have Sold Higher Educations Future https://www.chronicle.com/article/mit-and-harvard-have-sold-higher-educations-future [09:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.chronicle.com | MIT and Harvard Have Sold Higher Educations Future [09:30] techrights-news NEWS #uniHarvard #edX #Harvard and #MIT to Sell edX for $800 Million https://www.harvardmagazine.com/2021/06/sale-of-edx [09:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.harvardmagazine.com | Harvard and MIT to Sell edX for $800 million | Harvard Magazine [09:30] techrights-news NEWS #uniMIT #edX FAQs on agreement to sell edX to 2U, Inc. and fund nonprofit to reimagine digital learning https://news.mit.edu/2021/mit-harvard-transfer-edx-2u-faq-0629 [09:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.mit.edu | FAQs on agreement to sell edX to 2U, Inc. and fund nonprofit to reimagine digital learning | MIT News | Massachusetts Institute of Technology [09:30] techrights-news NEWS #InsideHigerEd #edX Why Is 2U Spending $800 Million to Buy edX? https://www.insidehighered.com/blogs/learning-innovation/why-2u-spending-800-million-buy-edx [09:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.insidehighered.com | Why Is 2U Spending $800 Million to Buy edX? | Learning Innovation [09:31] techrights-news NEWS #SundeepAgarwal #awk #programming Escaping madness to get literal field separators in awk https://learnbyexample.github.io/escaping-madness-awk-literal-field-separator/ [09:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-learnbyexample.github.io | learnbyexample - Escaping madness to get literal field separators in awk [09:32] techrights-news NEWS #MiamiHerald #Education Teen [cr]acks yearbook software, attributes Hitler quote to George Floyd, CT cops say https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article252756293.html [09:33] *TechrightsBot-tr has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:34] techrights-news NEWS #NBC #ProprietarySoftware Major Russian-speaking ransomware gang behind JBS and #Kaseya attacks goes offline https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/russian-speaking-ransomware-gang-goes-offline-rcna1403 [09:34] techrights-news NEWS #Bloomberg #ProprietarySoftware #Ransomware Gang REvil Vanishes From Web After #Biden Warning https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-13/notorious-ransomware-gang-revil-s-dark-web-sites-goes-offline [09:35] techrights-news 2021: we have so-called 'tech' media that cannot tell the difference between #www and #internet [09:39] techrights-news NEWS #TheHill #Surveillance #Privacy Homeland Security funding package pours millions into migrant surveillance https://thehill.com/policy/technology/562811-homeland-security-funding-package-pours-millions-into-surveillance [09:39] techrights-news you [09:40] techrights-news NEWS #TheVerge #Surveillance #Privacy #Twitter will let you change who can reply to a tweet after you post it https://www.theverge.com/2021/7/13/22575998/twitter-tweet-change-who-can-reply-after-you-post I would not call it #censorship but that just shows what a cesspool #socialcontrolmedia inherently is [09:41] *TechrightsBot-tr (~TR@ju4kayhrhsm6a.irc) has joined #techrights [09:41] TechrightsBot-tr Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 [09:48] techrights-news "I think something resembling the Web's Webmentions would be a good start. With Webmentions, you write a comment on Webpage A on your own website, Webpage B that has a backlink to Webpage A." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006905.html [09:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Decentralized content creation and linking [09:53] techrights-news Most common capsules by number of working URLs: #techrights still at the top gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi ● Jul 14 [10:03] techrights-news NEWS #NBC #Disinformation #Misinformation #socialcontrolmedia On #TikTok , audio gives new virality to misinformation https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/tiktok-audio-gives-new-virality-misinformation-rcna1393 [10:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | On TikTok, audio gives new virality to misinformation [10:03] techrights-news NEWS #RTL #Disinformation #Misinformation #socialcontrolmedia Fake #RTL post circulating on social media https://today.rtl.lu/news/luxembourg/a/1753879.html [10:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-today.rtl.lu | RTL Today - Beware!: Fake RTL post circulating on social media [10:03] techrights-news NEWS #TheHill #Disinformation #Misinformation #socialcontrolmedia #TikTok audio contributes to 'feedback loop of anti-vaccine narratives,' researchers say https://thehill.com/news-by-subject/technology/562708-tiktok-audio-contributes-to-feedback-loop-of-anti-vaccine [10:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-TikTok audio contributes to 'feedback loop of anti-vaccine narratives,' researchers say | TheHill [10:07] techrights-news ""Open Source" is a meaningless marketing phrase, but it did have a definition based on the Debian Free Software Guidelines." http://techrights.org/wiki/Proprietary_Open_Source [10:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Proprietary Open Source - Techrights ● Jul 14 [11:03] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 16.75 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 101.56 swarm size (avg): 288.23 [11:43] *psydroid_ (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techrights ● Jul 14 [12:06] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [12:06] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [12:20] activelow is there any transcription for me to understand: http://techrights.org/videos/campinos-gap.webm [12:21] techrights-news NEWS #TheVerge We want to see your #internet bill https://www.theverge.com/22574103/internet-bill-equity-verge-consumer-reports-partnership [12:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | The Verge wants to know how much you pay for internet - The Verge [12:22] techrights-news NEWS #Reuters #Copyrights #Copyright #France fines #Google 500 mln euros over copyright row https://www.reuters.com/technology/france-fines-google-500-mln-over-copyright-row-2021-07-13/ [12:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-France fines Google 500 mln euros over copyright row | Reuters [12:23] schestowitz activelow: the context or just the words? [12:23] schestowitz because the context would matter more [12:24] schestowitz mind you, he works in Germany but cannot speak German [12:24] activelow schestowitz: just saying i am following most of your techrights videos, and the mentioned is complete nonsense [12:24] schestowitz same as his predecessors (3 of them at least) [12:24] activelow is this person campino himself? i do not understand the words: if we not agree to have a ???? [12:25] schestowitz it's nonsense because he repeats himself and is clearly lying [12:25] schestowitz there is no gap [12:25] activelow ok, gap. couldn't identify this word by his pronounciation. and which gap? [12:25] schestowitz budget gaps [12:25] activelow anyway, not important, watching the next video now. [12:26] schestowitz germany totally exposed itself [12:26] schestowitz or left itself exposed [12:26] schestowitz the epo and upc affairs emboldens eu haters [12:26] schestowitz *affair [12:26] schestowitz germany is totally OK with crimes [12:26] schestowitz just to keep those cash cows on germany soil [12:26] schestowitz *germany's [12:26] schestowitz and some in NL [12:28] schestowitz on numerous occasions it was also demonstrable that there were third reich connections [12:28] schestowitz and stasi [12:28] activelow somehow i feel personally involved with higher realm affairs, due to my past [12:28] schestowitz desa, kottler grop, the precursor of EPA/EPO itself [12:29] schestowitz e.g. techrights.org/2019/07/16/haar-dark-historical-shadow/ [12:29] activelow need to hold back this doesn't trigger some psychosis of mine [12:29] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2019/05/17/kotter-group-nazi-roots/ [12:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Q2 Midterm Weather Forecast for EPOnia, Part 4: Happy Birthday to the Ktter Group? | Techrights [12:30] schestowitz Desa/Statsi http://techrights.org/2015/06/04/control-risks-epo-vs-media/ http://techrights.org/2016/09/26/epo-regime-of-fear-and-lobbying/ [12:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPO Sinks Deeper in a Scandal After Paying Public Money for Military-Connected Control Risks to Stalk Journalists and Staff | Techrights [12:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Moral Depravity of the European Patent Office Under Battistelli | Techrights [12:30] activelow recently finished my response letter for the court to respond to an accusation: that i had worked for zero income, and insisted a corrected invoice was provided for me to pay [12:30] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2018/03/13/godwin-law-in-upc-debate/ [12:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Battistelli Likes to Describe His Critics as Nazis, Team UPC Will Attempt the Same Thing Against UPC Critics | Techrights [12:30] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2018/01/01/iib-inpadoc-and-epo/ [12:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | How Institut International des Brevets (IIB), INPADOC and Other Historic Endeavours Relate to EPO and DG1/DG2 | Techrights [12:31] activelow this one will be dealt with in Nrnberg, not Munich. last letters from Munich were threatening me with incarceration [12:32] activelow and i am almost certain the Munich story was associated with the typical bureaucrats there, surrounding munich university, defense industry, and political interests [12:32] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2019/11/09/christian-ude-on-microsoft/ [12:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Former Mayor of Munich Explains How Microsoft Hates Linux | Techrights [12:32] schestowitz corruption in munich [12:32] schestowitz western satellite [12:33] activelow Munich city was progressive with Linux adoption, and politics regularly discuss threats to national security [12:33] schestowitz Berlin also [12:33] schestowitz FSFE (Google Germany) is sponsored by the US [12:34] schestowitz it wasm\t always like this [12:34] schestowitz FOSDEM also [12:34] activelow little surprising, and it is a party politics outlet of pseudo "Liberals" (FDP) [12:34] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/01/04/fosdem-us/ [12:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | FOSDEM or FOSDEMerica? | Techrights [12:35] techrights-news NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights # 4anime Shuts Down Abruptly Following Legal Pressure https://torrentfreak.com/4anime-shuts-down-abruptly-following-legal-pressure-210713/ [12:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-4anime Shuts Down Abruptly Following Legal Pressure * TorrentFreak [12:35] techrights-news NEWS #CreativeCommons Open Minds Podcast: Audrey Tang, Digital Minister of #Taiwan https://creativecommons.org/2021/07/13/open-minds-podcast-audrey-tang-digital-minister-of-taiwan/ [12:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-creativecommons.org | Open Minds Podcast: Audrey Tang, Digital Minister of Taiwan - Creative Commons [12:36] activelow yet they cannot comprehend the basics at least, what "privatisation" of telco was, and doubt anyone could follow my argument anymore it is almost 50years lost already since when east german microchip and science was dismantled [12:36] techrights-news NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #Reddit Orders 'SaveVideo' Bot to Shut Down or Face Lawsuit https://torrentfreak.com/reddit-orders-savevideo-bot-to-shutdown-or-face-lawsuit-210713/ [12:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Reddit Orders 'SaveVideo' Bot to Shut Down or Face Lawsuit (Updated) * TorrentFreak [12:36] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #DRM 'Resident Evil 8: Village' Broken Due To DRM, Cracked Version Fixes It https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210713/10241047162/resident-evil-8-village-broken-due-to-drm-cracked-version-fixes-it.shtml [12:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-'Resident Evil 8: Village' Broken Due To DRM, Cracked Version Fixes It | Techdirt [12:37] schestowitz activelow: not it's heavy machinery [12:37] schestowitz as I comprehend it., de has an alliance with china of sort [12:37] schestowitz beyond the shallow panda diplomacy [12:38] schestowitz "we export machines to you" [12:38] schestowitz "and you make all those cheap 'knock-offs'... [12:38] schestowitz hence Merkel would not sanction Chinese firms [12:38] schestowitz inc. dodgy telecoms [12:38] schestowitz problem is, chinese human rights standards have crept into de [12:39] schestowitz with oversight from more than csu [12:39] activelow schestowitz: lost track for a moment with "heavy machinery" [12:39] schestowitz and anyone who challenges this is "nazi" [12:40] schestowitz activelow: cars, heavy metals, carving, cutters [12:40] schestowitz bosch, siemens etc. [12:40] activelow ok. my head was spinning around telco where i came from [12:41] schestowitz lots of patents on those [12:41] schestowitz de is ok with chinese gear everywhere [12:41] schestowitz no better than cisco, juniper etc. [12:41] schestowitz if you lose control of ict (c for comms), you cannot have self-determination [12:41] schestowitz bsd works for nsa [12:41] schestowitz *bnd [12:42] schestowitz maybe also bsd lol [12:42] schestowitz depending which bsd [12:42] schestowitz appelbaum and others used to write about this [12:42] activelow BND is located close nearby munich too [12:42] schestowitz other assange associates who vanished [12:43] activelow btw. Munich reminds me of a project residing there: u-boot loader, which i had checked for some job offer [12:43] schestowitz https://wikileaks.org/IMG/html/Affidavit_of_Julian_Assange.html [12:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wikileaks.org | [12:43] activelow it is one of the better examples of what free and open should be, instead of what is shipped from USA [12:44] schestowitz " The irregular response to inquiries is documented in this affidavit as well as the appendices section via the affidavits of Andy Muller-Maguhn (Appendix C), Kristinn Hrafnsson (Appendix D), Holger Stark and Marcel Rosenbach (Appendix F), and Johannes Wahlstrom (Appendix G)." [12:44] schestowitz they were later blackmailed by the US gov with letter [12:44] schestowitz to make them walk way [12:44] schestowitz *away [12:44] schestowitz Sec 9: "In addition to the violation of my rights as a result of the suspected seizure of my suitcase while under the control of Swedish/German authorities, I have been advised that my rights were further violated when an effective remedy was not enforced after I and others made attempts to recover the suitcase, obtain an explanation and file a police report in relation to this matter. No explanation was ever given to me nor do I believe that [12:44] schestowitz authorities undertook an investigation of the disappeared property. This has prevented me from being able to effectively challenge the suspected seizure of privileged correspondence and WikiLeaks material and data." [12:45] schestowitz Germany: [12:45] schestowitz " "I am submitting this affidavit because I understand that the actions in Germany in 2009 and in Sweden in 2010 detailed in this complaint are likely to be unlawful. I understand by my lawyers that if the US military's surveillance of me in Germany was unlawful, then its use in Bradley Manning's trial may have also been unlawful and that such a use of illegally obtained evidence could have consequences for Bradley Manning's pending appeal to the [12:45] schestowitz US Army Court of Criminal Appeal. The suspected seizure and/or theft of my suitcase and its contents would appear to violate my legal rights, including my rights to privacy, to be free from searches and seizures without due process, and to freedom of association. The incidents may also violate the intelligence, property, privacy and/or source protection laws of the states where the actions occurred. Given that the suitcase contained privileged and [12:45] schestowitz confidential attorney-client correspondence, I believe that this may also violate laws in various jurisdictions concerning legal professional privilege." [12:45] schestowitz " [12:45] schestowitz I understand that if the suitcase was seized it may have been seized unlawfully, as part of an intelligence operation with the purpose of gathering information about me, WikiLeaks, and/or our upcoming publications and in an attempt to unlawfully establish the identity of WikiLeaks' sources.10 [12:45] schestowitz I understand that if the United States investigation has received the contents of my suitcase in connection with its investigation against me, WikiLeaks, and perhaps other accused sources, these investigations may be contaminated by their unlawful evidence-gathering or intelligence-gathering methods. [12:45] schestowitz " [12:45] schestowitz 28: "At the same time that the suitcase containing WikiLeaks property, associated data and my privileged client-attorney communications was seized or stolen, WikiLeaks and my person were the subject of heightened intelligence operations. The US government publicly displayed an intense interest in tracking my movements and in preventing WikiLeaks from publishing.35 I followed closely news reports about the US investigations and the WikiLeaks Grand [12:45] schestowitz Jury. I became aware through a number of tip-offs from sources within the intelligence and diplomatic communities of the types of activities, including extraterritorial conduct, that were being entertained in relation to WikiLeaks. [12:46] schestowitz 30: "The report was among the WikiLeaks materials that had been kept encrypted in the suitcase that was seized on 27 September 2010 when I was travelling from Stockholm to Berlin." [12:46] schestowitz 115: "On 27 September 2010 I arrived at Stockholm's Arlanda airport shortly after noon. It was on this flight that my suitcase, laptops, privileged attorney-client communications and other important information belonging to WikiLeaks disappeared." [12:46] schestowitz 119: "I checked in one suitcase on SAS flight SK2679 to Berlin. I was in the middle of the check-in queue. The suitcase was a medium-size soft suitcase with tan colour, trolley wheels and an extendable handle. It weighed 13 Kg and contained three encrypted laptops, telephone power supplies, assorted electronics, additional encrypted hard drives, telecommunications equipment and clothing. The phones, documents and other materials, including a laptop, [12:46] schestowitz which were the most difficult to protect I carried with me on my person, up to the allotted carry-on weight." [12:47] schestowitz 123: "I was told that the disappearance was highly unusual and that my suitcase would most likely arrive on the next flight from Stockholm. Over the next days, six people (including myself) made inquiries to try to track down the suitcase." [12:47] schestowitz 129: "On my behalf, Mr Muller-Maguhn, Holger Stark and Marcel Rosenbach made several calls that night and over the coming days to those responsible in Germany for lost property claims. They told me that these inquiries revealed that there was no record of the suitcase after it entered Stockholm Arlanda airport." [12:47] schestowitz 131: "The only information the GlobeGround company could provide was that the suitcase was correctly labelled and scanned when I checked in at Stockholm Arlanda (Appendix C). [12:47] schestowitz "The only information the GlobeGround company could provide was that the suitcase was correctly labelled and scanned when I checked in at Stockholm Arlanda (Appendix C)." [12:48] schestowitz 133: "The only information the GlobeGround company could provide was that the suitcase was correctly labelled and scanned when I checked in at Stockholm Arlanda (Appendix C)." [12:48] activelow long story short his suitcase was stolen [12:48] schestowitz mentions Andy Muller-Maguhn and Zimmermann [12:48] schestowitz same Zimmermann in the last techrights post [12:49] schestowitz Zimmermann http://techrights.org/2021/07/13/rip-philippe-aigrain/ [12:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Philippe Aigrain, Who Fought Against Software Patents, Died This Past Weekend | Techrights [12:49] schestowitz a lot of these things are connected [12:49] schestowitz Inc. Debian [12:49] schestowitz Assange and ioeror were Debian devs [12:49] activelow schestowitz: what i don't understand, why would anyone steal the suitcase if wikileaks publishes material anyway? [12:49] activelow agencies could simply download then what's available there [12:50] schestowitz activelow: no, long story short, always carry critical things with you [12:50] schestowitz no luggage [12:50] schestowitz or you can rsync across data [12:51] schestowitz rather than pass it through checkpoints and airports [12:51] schestowitz my personal laptops never left the4 home [12:51] schestowitz well, not since 2014 [12:51] activelow problem is i have no assoicates anymore here, where i could deposit some documents or some backup hard drive anymore [12:52] activelow bureaucrats could decide any moment, and i am thrown out on the streets in a few weeks [12:53] schestowitz there are safeguards [12:53] activelow otherwise i didn't have alot to publish anymore, except for i got proof for what i was saying [12:54] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #Florida Man Governor Wastes More Florida Taxpayer Money Appealing Ruling About His Unconstitutional Social Media Law https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210713/09513247161/florida-man-governor-wastes-more-florida-taxpayer-money-appealing-ruling-about-his-unconstitutional-social-media-law.shtml [12:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Florida Man Governor Wastes More Florida Taxpayer Money Appealing Ruling About His Unconstitutional Social Media Law | Techdirt [12:54] techrights-news NEWS #RaspberryPi #RasPi #GNU #Linux Celebrating the community: Avye https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/community-stories-avye-robotics-girls-tech/ [12:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.raspberrypi.org | Celebrating the community: Avye - Raspberry Pi [12:55] techrights-news NEWS #DeSmog #Fracking #Texas Company Exposed by DeSmog for Radioactive Fracking Waste Practices Threatens Legal Action https://www.desmog.com/2021/07/13/texas-lotus-desmog-radioactive-waste-threatens/ [12:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Texas Company Exposed by DeSmog for Radioactive Fracking Waste Practices Threatens Legal Action - DeSmog [12:55] *inky_ (~inky@141.136.76.30) has joined #techrights [12:55] techrights-news NEWS #KrebsOnSecurity #nsa #backdoors #insecureByDesign #Microsoft Patch Tuesday, July 2021 Edition https://krebsonsecurity.com/2021/07/microsoft-patch-tuesday-july-2021-edition/ http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA [12:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-krebsonsecurity.com | Microsoft Patch Tuesday, July 2021 Edition Krebs on Security [12:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights [12:56] activelow schestowitz: and as i said with wikileaks there was too many names involved in public. rule #1 no names [12:57] techrights-news NEWS #DontExtraditeAssange #de #germany #assange Politicians, journalists and artists write to Chancellor #Merkel calling for freedom of Assange https://dontextraditeassange.com/press-clip/politicians-journalists-and-artists-write-to-chancellor-merkel-calling-for-freedom-of-assange/ [12:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dontextraditeassange.com | Politicians, journalists and artists write to Chancellor Merkel calling for freedom of Assange - Don't Extradite Assange [12:58] activelow in public TV and news at best journalists become excited about some "big story" and hero drama, while the contents of wikileaks are the relevant asset, which doesn't require prominent heros [12:59] activelow well, it courageous people are required, not their names in public ● Jul 14 [13:01] schestowitz yes [13:01] schestowitz http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Cablegate [13:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Cablegate - Techrights [13:03] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 14.76 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 129.95 swarm size (avg): 288.14 [13:04] activelow don't know who exposed the names of Manning and why, or if she required some protection thought going public would protect her [13:06] schestowitz not sure if could not be done anonymously [13:06] schestowitz but she had reached out to nytime sand washpo [13:06] schestowitz establishment papers [13:06] schestowitz as bradley [13:06] schestowitz so one way or another the us gov likely knew what was happening [13:07] schestowitz at the epo we keep it all an enigma [13:07] *job has quit (connection closed) [13:07] *job (~job@dp7f67t65wq76.irc) has joined #techrights [13:07] activelow btw. i too suspect my phone is/was tapped, among other surveillance activity: including illegal entry into my flat, extracting microsd cards from some computers which caused crashes, some screw at my chair unscrewed which requires a heavy screwdriver to do so [13:08] schestowitz techrights is trying to teach people how to leak [13:08] schestowitz phones were always tapped [13:08] schestowitz even 70 years ago [13:08] schestowitz the question is how much and under what circumstances [13:08] activelow i think conversations were interrupted with imposters [13:09] activelow same with email [13:09] schestowitz but phones did not always 1) follow you around (mobile) and [13:09] activelow some of it appeared like dilettantism [13:09] schestowitz 2) come with microphones and cams that can be remotely activated and buffer ("smart") [13:10] schestowitz pgp can tackle imposters [13:10] activelow schestowitz: btw. i can steel feel something sort of an implant in my earlobes [13:10] activelow too would advice caution when seeing a dentits who drills a whole into teeth, only speculation btw. [13:11] schestowitz no evidence to support that [13:11] schestowitz all those years I never saw dentists weaponised [13:11] schestowitz and then are other ways to attach things to people, outside their bodies [13:12] schestowitz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3poKUuvtyM [13:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Enemy Of The State - The NSA Can Read The Time Off Your F**king Wristwatch! - YouTube [13:12] schestowitz classic scene [13:12] schestowitz where he finds like a dozen bugs on him [13:14] schestowitz heh, full film https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wscAFRrVY1c [13:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Enemy of the State 1998 Full Movie will smith movies - YouTube [13:14] schestowitz only Gulag can get away with it (without being sued) [13:15] schestowitz This scene is more relevant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3bLEYrNFOk [13:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-(1/3) Will Smith Running For His Life in Enemy of The State 1998 HD - YouTube [13:15] schestowitz the funny thing is, NSA complained about this film [13:15] schestowitz years before 9/11 [13:15] activelow schestowitz: cannot watch youtube myself since javascript hangs in the browser session heere [13:15] schestowitz NSA thought it was painting it in a bad/correct light [13:16] activelow not important, could be interesting to other audience [13:17] schestowitz anyway, you can use alternative sites [13:17] schestowitz that last scene covered commonly overlooked places for bugs [13:17] schestowitz https://yewtu.be/watch?v=-3bLEYrNFOk [13:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | (1/3) Will Smith Running For His Life in Enemy of The State 1998 HD - Invidious [13:17] schestowitz look ma, no JS [13:18] schestowitz https://yewtu.be/watch?v=wscAFRrVY1c [13:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Enemy of the State 1998 Full Movie will smith movies - Invidious [13:18] schestowitz https://yewtu.be/watch?v=s3poKUuvtyM [13:18] activelow btw. at least it would be plausible, to inject everyone with a passive RFID responder, to associate an individual with electronic equipment used [13:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Enemy Of The State - The NSA Can Read The Time Off Your F**king Wristwatch! - Invidious [13:18] schestowitz no need for RFID [13:19] schestowitz many fools carry around their 'phones' even sleeping with them [13:19] activelow i have a mobile phone too, a non-smart old nokia one, which i placed inside another room some days ago [13:20] schestowitz it's still tracking [13:20] activelow forgot myself it can be activated, to monitor conversations with the microphone inside [13:20] schestowitz but anyway, many companies collect data from those [13:20] schestowitz germany, american, chinese [13:20] schestowitz periodically their governments make copies [13:20] schestowitz and catalogue these [13:21] schestowitz the german gov. now collects biometrics from citizens who want passports [13:21] schestowitz and that data will be passed on [13:21] schestowitz US worries about China building up biometric 'playbooks' [13:22] activelow i wasn't that concerned to provide a fingerprint for my traveller passport [13:22] schestowitz it seems spurious [13:22] activelow government insisiting to collect corona slime from citizens is crossing a red line, and their vaccination campaign too [13:23] activelow government plan is this: collect as many slime samples as possible with the argument no vaccine existed [13:24] activelow when vaccines exist then force everyone to receive it, with the alternative for anti-vaxxers they had to provide their corona slime for government collection, and make this costly to do [13:24] activelow with finally having everyone vaccinated (registered for corona traveller passport), and their genetic material collected in parallel [13:25] activelow which is probably related to severe uncontrolled mass immigration issues since 2013 and EU failing [13:25] schestowitz that's nonsense for several reasons [13:26] schestowitz first, saliva doesn't give them much they could not also collect from local GPs [13:26] activelow ok. listening. [13:26] activelow local GPs? [13:26] schestowitz heck. they have blood samples from most people [13:26] schestowitz slab isn't of much use [13:26] schestowitz the health system has far more data already [13:26] activelow it wasn't coordinated before [13:27] schestowitz in the UK the NHS even wants to sell it, thanks to corrupt tories [13:27] schestowitz there are better reasons (than privacy) than vaccine apprehgension [13:27] schestowitz at the moment, variants also lead to hesitancy [13:27] schestowitz you fall ill 0-2 times [13:28] schestowitz and the they tell you it's no longer quite so effective, with more doses "coming soon" [13:28] schestowitz with minimal tested and expedited approval [13:28] schestowitz *testing [13:28] schestowitz [13:24] NEWS #CounterPunch Sydney Mockdown: The Delta Variant Strikes https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/07/13/sydney-mockdown-the-delta-variant-strikes/ [13:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sydney Mockdown: The Delta Variant Strikes - CounterPunch.org [13:28] schestowitz from social, moments ago [13:29] activelow the corona campaign is motivated by various political interests, and some business ones too of cause [13:30] activelow political interests are: migration issues, dampening economy due to "climate"/"fridays for future", besides some relevant public health concerns too of cause [13:31] activelow then this campaign is weaponized for cash grabbing scams of EU corona emergency aid to launder trillions of cash, some entities seeking profit at stock exchange etc. [13:31] schestowitz everything gets exploited by everybody, but... [13:31] schestowitz you would not want to allege 9/11 was planned by those looking to exploit it with patriot act etc. [13:32] schestowitz social control [13:32] activelow i wouldn't, i could only cite a documentary which did, and seemed somewhat plausible at least [13:33] schestowitz many years of exploiting hysteria [13:33] schestowitz while contributing to it [13:34] schestowitz but if you work in a place where you face people, better to be vaccinated [13:34] schestowitz by matter which vaccine [13:34] schestowitz because getting the real thing is always assured to be the worst [13:35] activelow curevac reported with leading reasearch theirs wasn't sufficient for approval, and curevac is the leading international scientific conglomerate located at heidelberg university [13:35] techrights-news "Imagine a nation so economically unequal that its top one-thousandth has more wealth than its bottom 90 percent." https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/07/13/imagine-a-nation-like-this/ [13:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Imagine a Nation Like This - CounterPunch.org [13:36] activelow schestowitz: i am living in a crowded and dirty city where population was caughing and sniffing for years. if something had spread here i got all of it already without any vaccination shot required anymore [13:37] schestowitz some of these we had resistance to [13:37] schestowitz this new one is worse [13:37] schestowitz and we saw what happened in countries that pretended it was no big deal [13:37] activelow besides it is mostly inhabitants with weakened immune system affected: eldery, and *children* [13:38] activelow young children mainly, whose immune system is known to develop in early years [13:38] schestowitz with mutation it can get worse [13:38] schestowitz "Spanish flu" killed the young [13:38] activelow then i question the dirt and toxins on the streets are any less relevant to health concerns of young children (benzene concentration known to surpass tolerated levels by hundreds percent) [13:39] schestowitz shit, my ring just broke [13:39] schestowitz when i did chin-ups in the park [13:41] gustaf Covid-19 is a dress-rehearsal for a number of challenges facing the human race in the coming decades [13:41] gustaf and we kinda blew it [13:43] schestowitz https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/07/13/stop-blocking-global-covid-vaccines-protests-greet-merkels-white-house-visit [13:43] schestowitz patents that kill [13:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'Stop Blocking Global Covid Vaccines': Protests Greet Merkel's White House Visit | Common Dreams News [13:44] activelow air pollution kills, rarely did I ever hear any public report about benzene concentration in the air [13:44] *activelow quit smoking since this morning, and chews gum now [13:44] schestowitz gustaf: most are connected to overpopulation [13:45] schestowitz by humans [13:45] schestowitz [00:08] #RMS on #overpopulation -- a "hard" subject: "Uttar Pradesh is considering a two-children-per-family law. Reducing the number of births would be a good goal, but doing it by punishing the children when a family is overlarge is a cruel method of doing so." https://stallman.org/archives/2021-may-aug.html#13_July_2021_(Two_children_per_family) [13:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: May - August Political Notes - Richard Stallman [13:45] activelow overpopulation and overconsumption, or both [13:45] schestowitz smoking is good for nature [13:45] schestowitz it kills humans faster [13:46] schestowitz sorry :-D [13:46] activelow no problem, i didn't quit if the tobacco wasn't poisoned with additives and dirt [13:46] schestowitz activelow: one leads to the other [13:46] schestowitz and over-extraction [13:46] schestowitz even clean drinking water is becoming scarce in some places [13:49] activelow i can tell for sure tobacco has become horribly poisoned since when i began smoking 20 years ago, even as a passionate smoker i wouldn't touch this anymore since it smells and tastes like burning plastics and waste water chemicals [13:50] techrights-news NEWS #meduza #ru #russia #Moscow transport workers to sue employers for suspending unvaccinated drivers without pay https://meduza.io/en/news/2021/07/13/moscow-transport-workers-to-sue-employers-for-suspending-unvaccinated-drivers-without-pay [13:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE [13:51] techrights-news NEWS #CommonDreams #monopolies #patents #germany Dems Request Meeting With #Merkel to Discuss Germany's 'Blockade' of Vaccine Patent Waiver https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/07/13/dems-request-meeting-merkel-discuss-germanys-blockade-vaccine-patent-waiver [13:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Dems Request Meeting With Merkel to Discuss Germany's 'Blockade' of Vaccine Patent Waiver | Common Dreams News [13:59] techrights-news For the time being, #geminispace is porn-free (well, with lack for images by default, no wonder) and troll-free. Very SFW to embrace #geminiProtocol so you can focus on what matters. No ads and fake reviews. ● Jul 14 [14:22] schestowitz https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/plans-revealed-massive-new-music-17825312 [14:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/plans-revealed-massive-new-music-17825312 ) [14:28] schestowitz https://www.si.com/.image/ar_4:3%2Cc_fill%2Ccs_srgb%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw_1200/MTgxMjQwMDk4MzI5NzMyNDU2/co-op-live-drone-image.png [14:39] techrights-news #PopOS 21.04 First Impressions http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153371 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [14:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Pop!_OS 21.04 First Impressions | Tux Machines [14:40] techrights-news 5 Rust tools worth trying on the Linux command line http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153372 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [14:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 5 Rust tools worth trying on the Linux command line | Tux Machines [14:41] techrights-news #MAIXII A AI camera board combines #Allwinner R329 smart audio processor with USB-C camera http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153373 [14:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MAIX-II A AI camera board combines Allwinner R329 smart audio processor with USB-C camera | Tux Machines [14:41] techrights-news #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153374 #Linux #TuxMachines [14:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [14:42] techrights-news NEWS #TruthOut Right-Wingers Are Taking Over Library Boards to Remove Books on #Racism https://truthout.org/articles/right-wingers-are-taking-over-library-boards-to-remove-books-on-racism/ [14:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Right-Wingers Are Taking Over Library Boards to Remove Books on Racism [14:44] techrights-news NEWS #Tor #torproject New Release: #Tails 4.20 https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tails-420 [14:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.torproject.org | New Release: Tails 4.20 | Tor Blog [14:44] techrights-news NEWS #Tor #torproject New Release: #TorBrowser 10.5.2 (Windows, macOS, Linux) https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tor-browser-1052 [14:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.torproject.org | New Release: Tor Browser 10.5.2 (Windows, macOS, Linux) | Tor Blog [14:44] techrights-news NEWS #Tor #torproject Bug Smash Fund, Year 2: Progress Since February 2021 https://blog.torproject.org/tor-bug-smash-fund-2020-final-update [14:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.torproject.org | Bug Smash Fund, Year 2: Progress Since February 2021 | Tor Blog [14:45] leah schestowitz: i saw the meme cartoon here: http://techrights.org/2021/07/10/team-upc-omissions/ [14:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Sparkling Wine for Team UPC | Techrights [14:45] leah schestowitz: i find it hilarious. do you have the original? without the text [14:46] leah i would like to make my own memes with it from time to time. i almost died laughing. especially at the last 2 strips :P [14:47] techrights-news New Release: Tails 4.20 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153341#comment-30259 [14:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tails 4.20 Anonymous OS Released with Brand-New Tor Connection Assistant | Tux Machines [14:49] Librarian Well, ElasticSearch has officially been forked, to get away from their "open-source-as-bait-and-switch-for-proprietary-software" model. The new fork is maturing, and is now wholly open source. [14:50] Librarian https://opensearch.org/blog/updates/2021/07/opensearch-general-availability-announcement/ [14:50] techrights-news Another misstep for #Audacity https://lwn.net/Articles/862218/rss #lwn paywall [14:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Another misstep for Audacity [LWN.net] [14:50] schestowitz leah: MORNING [14:51] schestowitz OOPS, no caps [14:51] schestowitz I had to open to check which meme it was [14:51] schestowitz anyway. zoobab or others will continue to deliver spoilers [14:52] schestowitz memes are just our way of having fun with the UPC tragedies [14:53] techrights-news OpenSearch 1.0 is released! https://opensearch.org/blog/updates/2021/07/opensearch-general-availability-announcement/ [14:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensearch.org | 1.0 is released! OpenSearch [14:53] XRevan86 schestowitz: The only thing I gathered from the Remotes announcement is that it doesn't care to explain what that thing is for. [14:54] schestowitz maybe related to Shells? [14:54] schestowitz or the app? [14:54] XRevan86 It talks about how great it is, but not what it is. [14:55] XRevan86 Even that earlier "sneak peek" screenshot gave me more information than that lengthy announcement. [14:57] XRevan86 schestowitz: I'd imagine something like that would need hosting, and I guess Shells serves that function. But heck knows. [14:58] gustaf XRevan86: I too am clueless [14:58] MinceR maybe it's IRC-based Shells [14:58] gustaf coincidentally, check out this monstrosity https://barryfrost.com/2021/07/vibrancy [14:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-barryfrost.com | My serverless, headless, Micropub-powered, personal website Barry Frost [14:59] XRevan86 gustaf: At least we know it will lead IRC to greatness, right? (: [14:59] XRevan86 1. Remotes; 2. ???; 3. millions of freenode users. ● Jul 14 [15:01] XRevan86 (I know it's more like 1. takeover; 2. server wipe; 3. IRC.com applications; 4. Remotes) [15:01] MinceR 4. Profit! [15:03] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 15.23 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 76.33 swarm size (avg): 288.04 [15:03] gustaf I keep thinking how Lee could have avoided this debacle [15:05] XRevan86 gustaf: With his line of thinking it was unavoidable unfortunately. [15:06] gustaf or was the kind king^Wemperor misled by his devious advisors [15:07] schestowitz XRevan86: maybe ??? is XXX [15:07] schestowitz people woul totally dig pr0n over xxx [15:07] schestowitz Freenode is XXX [15:08] schestowitz millions on the way [15:08] schestowitz remember when tumblr cracked down on pr0n and then collapsed? [15:08] gustaf I doubt Tumblr was a profit center before [15:08] XRevan86 Does anyone know what anonchat actually is? Beyond that it requires registration. [15:09] gustaf it was a reputation sink for Verizon [15:09] gustaf XRevan86: it's a bot that you message, and it will echo your text behind a "pseudonym" [15:10] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@whyhddtbvmtb4.irc) has joined #techrights [15:11] XRevan86 gustaf: Ah, so like a "secure drop", sans the secure part. [15:12] gustaf also you don't see anyone else there except the bot and mods [15:14] gustaf I guess, first time I've seen it but the IRC old-timers recognize it [15:14] *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #techrights [15:14] *psymin (~psymin@user/psymin) has joined #techrights [15:15] leah well, anyway that made my day. thanks schestowitz [15:15] leah talking about that meme again. also i learned about upc [15:15] schestowitz glad to hear, leah [15:16] schestowitz that's the goal, to get people the story in a gist [15:16] leah well, i think that single meme does a good job. the article itself is boring, but the meme made me intrigued enough to read it in full [15:17] Librarian And here we see socialists doing what socialists typically do: https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/cubans-protest-government-cracks-internet-access-messaging-apps-rcna1400 [15:17] DaemonFC I'm going to get a shirt that says "Freedom and other anti-government slogans. -New York Times". [15:17] leah i think it's a powerful point that the meme makes. the "media" focuses only on the most sensational news stories, while the more important, but often boring, stories aren't covered as much [15:17] MinceR 14 160338 < gustaf> I keep thinking how Lee could have avoided this debacle [15:17] MinceR easily [15:17] leah oh, we talking about andrew lee again? [15:17] MinceR DaemonFC: lol [15:17] MinceR yes [15:17] leah i thought he was old news now. fn seems dead [15:18] Librarian I hear the autocratic socialists hypocritically said, of the dissenters, "UR A TROLL LOL", and called them a "cesspit," and screeched at them to "drink bleach." :D [15:18] XRevan86 It's like talking about how Stalin could've avoided the Second Collectivisation. [15:19] XRevan86 Sure, easily. [15:20] gustaf hah XRevan86 [15:20] gustaf "mistakes were made" [15:21] DaemonFC Mistakes were made. Lessons were learned. [15:21] MinceR s/lea/not lea/ [15:22] MinceR FTFY [15:22] techrights-news NEWS #meduza #ru #russia More like Cain and Abel Zelensky responds to Putins essay on the historical unity of Russians and Ukrainians https://meduza.io/en/feature/2021/07/13/more-like-cain-and-abel [15:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE [15:22] XRevan86 Putin's essay has a lot of wishful thinking and twisting of history. [15:25] gustaf he's ex-KGB duh [15:25] Librarian This seems to be a step in the right direction, though open-sourcing the app would mean people *could* still choose when to decrypt and share videos that the closed-source app won't permit: [15:25] Librarian https://www.zdnet.com/article/amazon-rolls-out-encryption-for-ring-doorbells/ [15:27] techrights-news NEWS #EFF #Clearview #Israel Clearviews Face #Surveillance Still Has No #FirstAmendment Defense https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/07/clearviews-face-surveillance-still-has-no-first-amendment-defense [15:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Clearviews Face Surveillance Still Has No First Amendment Defense | Electronic Frontier Foundation [15:28] techrights-news NEWS #EFF #Quad9 #DNS Provider Hit With Outrageous Blocking Order Is Your Provider Next? https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/07/dns-provider-hit-outrageous-blocking-order-your-provider-next [15:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | DNS Provider Hit With Outrageous Blocking Order Is Your Provider Next? | Electronic Frontier Foundation [15:29] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #Trump Notifies Attorney General He's Challenging The Constitutionality Of Section 230 On The Dumbest Grounds Possible https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210709/16402947140/trump-notifies-attorney-general-hes-challenging-constitutionality-section-230-dumbest-grounds-possible.shtml [15:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Trump Notifies Attorney General He's Challenging The Constitutionality Of Section 230 On The Dumbest Grounds Possible | Techdirt [15:30] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt Phones Backdoored By The #FBI Are Being Sold To Unsuspecting People Just Wanting A Cheap Replacement Device https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210710/15220447147/phones-backdoored-fbi-are-being-sold-to-unsuspecting-people-just-wanting-cheap-replacement-device.shtml all, ALL "modern" phones are compromised: https://wikileaks.org/vault7/ https://wikileaks.org/vault8/ [15:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Phones Backdoored By The FBI Are Being Sold To Unsuspecting People Just Wanting A Cheap Replacement Device | Techdirt [15:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wikileaks.org | WikiLeaks - Vault 7: Projects [15:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wikileaks.org | WikiLeaks - Vault 8 [15:31] DaemonFC MinceR, schestowitz Apparently, there is no default browser setting in Windows 11. [15:32] DaemonFC It makes you set defaults for each and every protocol handler. [15:32] schestowitz but.... [15:32] schestowitz does this mythical vapourware come with a browser? [15:32] schestowitz we don't know yet [15:32] schestowitz as it is vpourware [15:33] schestowitz like WinFS [15:33] schestowitz so... [15:33] schestowitz maybe they will present you with only one option for each protocol [15:33] schestowitz guess whose [15:33] XRevan86 schestowitz: We can't be certain the release will still not contain a browser setting, but we can be certain Microsoft (Chromium) Edge will be a part of it. [15:33] DaemonFC Apparently, Windows 10 has some feature that allows it to run parts of itself in a virtual machine to wall them off from being tampered with. [15:33] DaemonFC But some old drivers are incompatible. [15:34] DaemonFC I went to turn onn Memory Isolation and it said that a Western Digital driver for my external hard disk which had "prewin8" in the name was blocking it. [15:34] DaemonFC So I ripped out the driver and told Windows to delete it. I can still access the hard disk and now Memory Isolation is turned on. [15:36] schestowitz Microsoft wants everyone to focus on a product that does not exist [15:36] schestowitz serves them better [15:36] DaemonFC From the description, is seems to be some sort of anti-rootkit system. [15:36] schestowitz as Vista10 'bricks' printing now [15:36] schestowitz they just cannot stop breaking thing [15:36] schestowitz *thing [15:36] schestowitz *things [15:37] schestowitz DaemonFC: Microsoft works with the NSA [15:37] DaemonFC schestowitz, Yes, I updated my BIOS when the laptop came back with a new motherboard. [15:37] schestowitz so any mention of "security features" from Microsoft is a joke [15:37] DaemonFC It caused an inaccessible boot drive BSOD. [15:37] schestowitz just like mjg59_ is a joke [15:37] schestowitz fake security [15:37] DaemonFC I had to reinstall the OS. Pissed me off. [15:37] schestowitz aka "theatre" [15:38] schestowitz your fault for using Vista [15:46] *kingoffrance has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:47] *x_ (~x__@4mmu4fx6g3jvs.irc) has joined #techrights ● Jul 14 [16:03] MinceR DaemonFC: i'm guessing the EU won't do anything about it, as usual [16:03] *x_ is now known as kingoffrance [16:03] *CrystalMath (~coderain@bcph2u4xwet86.irc) has joined #techrights [16:04] MinceR "don't worry, we've already made our ineffectual token gesture toward pretending to have a market economy, you can hand over your envelopes now" [16:07] *kingoffrance has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:07] *x_ (~x__@4mmu4fx6g3jvs.irc) has joined #techrights [16:09] *x_ is now known as kingoffrance [16:15] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [16:15] *inky (~inky@5.77.146.15) has joined #techrights [16:18] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [16:19] activelow https://www.dw.com/en/european-central-bank-gives-green-light-to-digital-euro-pilot-project/a-58251871 [16:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-European Central Bank gives green light to digital euro pilot project | Business| Economy and finance news from a German perspective | DW | 14.07.2021 [16:32] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@azyv8kfrr37ck.irc) has joined #techrights [16:34] DaemonFC Movies are increasingly made for streaming. THe pandemic kind of got the studios over their fears of skipping the theaters. [16:35] DaemonFC The movie theater industry is in deep shit even with things reopening. [16:40] *job has quit (connection closed) [16:40] *pandakekok9 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [16:40] DaemonFC The MPAA was taken completely off guard. Their focus on the DRM went from figuring out ways to stop cams to figuring out ways to shore up things like Widevine. [16:55] DaemonFC schestowitz, I was commenting on WGN because they said there were 100,000 opioid overdoses last year. More than double the norm. [16:55] DaemonFC The lockdown killed many people all by itself. [16:56] DaemonFC And there's countries that fucked up the management of the virus way worse than we did and are set to fully reopen anyway, like the UK did. [16:56] DaemonFC Boris Johnson is now admitting that you can't just keep lockdowns going on forever. I doubt that the UK economy is doing well, or will do well for a long time. [16:57] DaemonFC The restaurant scheme ended a long time ago. I'm sure plenty of them collapsed anyway. ● Jul 14 [17:02] techrights-news #freesw instant replay software ReplaySorcery adds an experimental KMS service | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/07/open-source-instant-replay-software-replaysorcery-adds-an-experimental-kms-service #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games /#latest [17:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Open source instant replay software ReplaySorcery adds an experimental KMS service | GamingOnLinux [17:02] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 30.25 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 43.10 swarm size (avg): 287.98 [17:04] techrights-news "Bringing the fun of the original Escape Velocity series, the free and open source Endless Sky has another release out with version 0.9.14 with an aim to polish it up a little." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/07/free-and-open-source-space-trading-game-endless-sky-gets-a-polishing-release [17:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Free and open source space trading game Endless Sky gets a 0.9.14 polishing release | GamingOnLinux [17:06] DaemonFC schestowitz, It's just hardly believable that Lenovo could push a BIOS update that bricks Windows and forces a total reinstall. [17:07] DaemonFC Then again, nothing surprises me anymore. [17:07] techrights-news "After another while of releasing Beta builds for users to test, Valve has now pushed out the latest stable Steam Client upgrade for everyone and some Linux improvements are in." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/07/valve-has-released-an-updated-steam-client-with-some-linux-improvements-included [17:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Valve has released an updated Steam Client with some Linux improvements included | GamingOnLinux [17:07] DaemonFC If they're going to make things worse, you'd think they wouldn't push an update at all. [17:14] techrights-news #Games: Steam, Stadia, and More Titles for GNU/Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153375 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Steam, Stadia, and More Titles for GNU/Linux | Tux Machines [17:30] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has joined #techrights [17:31] AdmFubar https://hackaday.com/2021/07/13/muse-group-continues-tone-deaf-handling-of-audacity/ [17:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Muse Group Continues Tone Deaf Handling Of Audacity | Hackaday [17:42] DaemonFC https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/uwp/publish/store-policies#102-security [17:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-docs.microsoft.com | Microsoft Store Policies - UWP applications | Microsoft Docs [17:42] DaemonFC Microsoft updated another store policy. [17:42] DaemonFC "Products that browse the web must use either the Chromium or the Gecko open source engine." [17:43] DaemonFC Replaces the appropriate HTML and JavaScript engines provided by the Windows Platform. [17:43] techrights-news #Linux Will Run Even Better On Ancient Hardware Thanks To The Upcoming Le9 Patch http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153376 [17:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Will Run Even Better On Ancient Hardware Thanks To The Upcoming Le9 Patch | Tux Machines [17:44] DaemonFC The new policy allows Firefox to be published in the Windows Store. [17:44] techrights-news #VirtualBox with FreeBSD + KDE http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153377 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | VirtualBox with FreeBSD + KDE | Tux Machines [17:44] techrights-news #AlmaLinux 8.4 mini review - A clever community take on RHEL http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153378 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AlmaLinux 8.4 mini review - A clever community take on RHEL | Tux Machines [17:45] techrights-news Linux for Education: Best Distributions for Kids, Teachers & Schools http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153379 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux for Education: Best Distributions for Kids, Teachers & Schools | Tux Machines [17:46] DaemonFC schestowitz, Humorously, the Firefox Installer can accidentally install two copies of Firefox. [17:46] DaemonFC Once in the user's %AppData% path and one in the C:\Program Files path. [17:46] techrights-news Modules and devkit showcase Qualcomms new IoT SoCs http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153380 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Modules and devkit showcase Qualcomms new IoT SoCs | Tux Machines [17:47] techrights-news Stable Kernels: 5.13.2, 5.12.17, 5.10.50, and 5.4.132 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153381 #Kernel #Linux #TuxMachines [17:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Stable Kernels: 5.13.2, 5.12.17, 5.10.50, and 5.4.132 | Tux Machines [17:48] DaemonFC " Existing browsers in the Windows Store may continue to use the EdgeHTML engine." [17:48] DaemonFC It lives on, kind of. [17:48] *CrystalMath has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:49] techrights-news Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153382 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [17:49] DaemonFC "Further, your product must not offer to install secondary software that is not developed you and does not enhance the functionality of your product." [17:49] DaemonFC Oh good, nice to see they checked for spelling and grammar. [17:51] *CrystalMath (~coderain@bcph2u4xwet86.irc) has joined #techrights [17:51] schestowitz DaemonFC: in "social" you can see our latest COVID #s [17:52] DaemonFC "You are required to use supported methods and must obtain user consent to change any users Windows settings, preferences, settings UI, or modify the users Windows experience in any way. Unsupported methods include but are not limited to use of accessibility APIs or undocumented or unsupported APIs in unsupported ways." [17:52] DaemonFC Undocumented or unsupported APIs in unsupported ways? [17:52] DaemonFC WHo the fuck wrote this? [17:59] schestowitz somebody who does not know Microsoft's history on the Web ● Jul 14 [18:02] techrights-news #HowTo cache snap downloads and save bandwidth | Ubuntu https://ubuntu.com//blog/how-to-cache-snap-downloads-and-save-bandwidth #ubuntu snaps and #ibm flatpaks are bloat [18:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to cache snap downloads and save bandwidth | Ubuntu [18:08] techrights-news 12 Useful sed Commands In #GNU #Linux | LinuxTeck https://www.linuxteck.com/sed-commands-in-linux/ #linuxteck [18:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://www.linuxteck.com/sed-commands-in-linux/ ) [18:11] *psydruid has quit (connection closed) [18:12] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [18:13] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [18:13] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153383 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [18:13] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [18:17] techrights-news #ProprietarySoftware and Security, Digital Restrictions (DRM) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153384 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Software and Security, Digital Restrictions (DRM) | Tux Machines [18:18] techrights-news " #FritoLay is working its staff harder and cutting wages, so now they are on strike, with community support." https://stallman.org/archives/2021-may-aug.html#14_July_2021_(Working_staff_harder) [18:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: May - August Political Notes - Richard Stallman [18:30] *XFaCE has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:33] *XFaCE (~XFaCE@uzfeivw9fp6ba.irc) has joined #techrights [18:34] kingoffrance re: ms store policy ""You are required to use supported methods and must obtain user consent" i suppose that is CYA on their part...but is that actually enforced by software. or is it just after the fact, they can find something in violation and use it to say "we warned you, app not allowed in store until fixed" [18:34] kingoffrance "to change any users Windows settings, preferences, settings UI, or modify the users Windows experience in any way. Unsupported methods include but are not limited to use of accessibility APIs or undocumented or unsupported APIs in unsupported ways" all those things seem like could be enforced by software if they wanted to [18:35] kingoffrance or vetted before "approving" [18:35] kingoffrance i dont use anything like that, just seems strange to me [18:36] kingoffrance like some firewall that is just a piece of paper contract, i promise not to ddos anyone [18:36] kingoffrance ok, let all traffic through [18:36] kingoffrance it strikes me as "on the honour system" [18:37] techrights-news Links 14/7/2021: OpenSearch 1.0, Oracle Clown Sucks, AlmaLinux 8.4 Reviewed http://techrights.org/2021/07/14/opensearch-1-0/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/07/14/opensearch-1-0/ [18:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 14/7/2021: OpenSearch 1.0, Oracle Clown Sucks, AlmaLinux 8.4 Reviewed | Techrights [18:38] techrights-news #Devices With GNU/Linux, Arduino, and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153385 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Devices With GNU/Linux, Arduino, and More | Tux Machines [18:38] techrights-news #Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153386 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [18:38] techrights-news Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153387 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [18:39] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:40] schestowitz kingoffrance: malware vendor gets to decide which programs are acceptable :-) [18:40] schestowitz like Apple with US gov back doors [18:40] schestowitz will tell you what its store deems ok [18:40] schestowitz also based on politics [18:41] schestowitz digital imperialism/colonlaism [18:44] kingoffrance good point. their apps dont have to follow the rules surely [18:44] kingoffrance its rules for everyone else [18:45] schestowitz limiting people's thoughts and actions = colonialism [18:46] techrights-news How different #programming languages read and write data https://opensource.com/article/21/7/programming-read-write [18:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How different programming languages read and write data | Opensource.com [18:48] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/21061111 [18:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5549548) [18:50] schestowitz "Acknowledgements: Whitney Webb contributed with research for this article" [18:50] schestowitz https://unlimitedhangout.com/2020/07/investigative-reports/darpas-man-in-wuhan/ [18:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-DARPA's Man in Wuhan - unlimitedhangout.com [18:50] schestowitz does this make any sense at all [18:50] schestowitz Whitney Webb is not too bad [18:51] schestowitz but some guest posts there have been rotten [18:53] schestowitz it's a hard sell [18:53] schestowitz that something that comes from China [18:53] schestowitz is in fact somehow a US conspiracy [18:57] techrights-news #Tibet II https://www.theregister.com/2021/07/14/hong_kong_sharing_digital_id_with_china/ #china #cn #hk #prc [18:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Hong Kong working to share its digital IDs with mainland China The Register ● Jul 14 [19:01] *AdmFubar has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:02] techrights-news #RedHat working for #Windows, even in areas where Windows is almost extinct anyway ttps://www.redhat.com/en/blog/expanding-automation-windows-environments-red-hat-ansible-automation-platform-and-chocolatey [19:04] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 25.91 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 65.91 swarm size (avg): 287.90 [19:04] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has joined #techrights [19:07] techrights-news odays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153388 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [19:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [19:14] immibis When everyone along the supply chain has the economic right to choose their associations, their methods, their relationships, and their transactions, then they are free to innovate and improve, and respond more quickly to changing conditions. <- sure, but that is not capitalism. Capitalism is when the people with capital control you. That's why it's called that. Like monarchism, but with capital. [19:17] techrights-news #PCLinuxOS 2021.07 is out. http://www.pclinuxos.com/ #pclos #gnu #linux [19:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-So cool ice cubes are jealous PCLinuxOS [19:18] techrights-news 3 Reasons to Upgrade your #ownCloud Instance to #Nextcloud https://net2.com/3-reasons-to-upgrade-your-owncloud-instance-to-nextcloud/ [19:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-net2.com | 3 Reasons to Upgrade your ownCloud Instance to Nextcloud [19:20] Librarian Nah, that's the exact opposite of the last six words of the definition of "capitalism" in the Merriam-Webster dictionary's website. [19:20] techrights-news A Run-down on Top 10 #freesw Tools for #MachineLearning https://www.analyticsinsight.net/a-run-down-on-top-10-open-source-tools-for-machine-learning/ #analyticsinsight | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/07/14/#latest [19:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.analyticsinsight.net | A Run-down on Top 10 Open-Source Tools for Machine Learning [19:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [19:20] techrights-news Steam Client on #GNU #Linux Has Been Updated, Heres Whats new https://linuxiac.com/steam-client-on-linux-has-been-updated/ #linuxiac | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/07/14/#latest [19:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxiac.com | Steam Client on Linux Has Been Updated, Heres Whats new [19:21] techrights-news Indoor theme park builder Indoorlands is out in Early Access | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/07/indoor-theme-park-builder-indoorlands-is-out-in-early-access #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/07/14/#latest [19:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Indoor theme park builder Indoorlands is out in Early Access | GamingOnLinux [19:21] Librarian But, that's a good illustration of how the ethical socialists are already peacefully and consensually living their values on kibbutzim and communes, so the only socialists left outside of such ethical settings are all psychopaths and pathological liars, who just scream falsehoods and hatred out of mindless greed. [19:24] Librarian One could also have recognized that they were ignorant of how capitalism works by reading its wikipedia article, first paragraph, second sentence. Especially the 8th-9th words and the 17th-22nd words. [19:26] techrights-news #Proxmox Backup Server 2.0 Released, Based on Debian 11 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/150581#comment-30261 [19:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proxmox Virtual Environment 6.4 released | Tux Machines [19:26] Librarian immibis, I'm always curious about people who feel so certain of themselves, but exhibit such extremes of ignorance of economic fundamentals. Can you tell me a little about how you were educated? Especially: how was your education funded? [19:27] techrights-news #Microsoft already told the #NSA how to exploit all those https://www.scmagazine.com/home/security-news/microsoft-fixes-117-vulnerabilities-four-exploited-in-the-wild/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA [19:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.scmagazine.com | Microsoft fixes 117 vulnerabilities, four exploited in the wild [19:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights [19:29] immibis Librarian, that's the exact opposite of all the words of the definition of "socialism" in the Merriam-Webster dictionary's website. [19:29] techrights-news Proud to Be Top Contributor to #GTK4 https://puri.sm/posts/proud-to-be-top-contributor-to-gtk4/ #gtk #freesw #gnu [19:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-puri.sm | Proud to Be Top Contributor to GTK4 Purism [19:30] Librarian No, my explanation was perfectly aligned to Merriam-Webster definition 2a, which is itself an example of definition 1. [19:31] techrights-news Linux Mint to now ensure you update your distro on time http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153156#comment-30262 [19:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint 20.2 "Uma" Released. This is What's New | Tux Machines [19:31] Librarian So, that was also a further example of how you're just a pathological liar. [19:32] Librarian But, as I said above: immibis, I'm always curious about people who feel so certain of themselves, but exhibit such extremes of ignorance of economic fundamentals. Can you tell me a little about how you were educated? Especially: how was your education funded? [19:37] techrights-news "Linux-Focused" probably won't mean focusing on Linux, the kernel, but some unpatched software running on top of it, maybe even an unchanged default password or misconfiguration https://threatpost.com/linux-cryptojacking-gang-romania/167783/ [19:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux-Focused Cryptojacking Gang Tracked to Romania | Threatpost [19:38] immibis "psychopaths and pathological liars, who just scream falsehoods and hatred out of mindless greed" is not the definition of "socialism" 2a [19:38] techrights-news Procedure on stricken #space #telescope may be attempted later this week https://www.theregister.com/2021/07/14/nasa_hubble_formal_review_backup_hardware/ [19:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Hubble, Hubble, toil and trouble: NASA pores over moth-eaten manuals ahead of switch to backup hardware The Register [19:38] Librarian Correct. 2a describes the ethical ones who practice socialism voluntarily. [19:38] Librarian Those who try to cram it down the throats of the non-consenting by violence are desribed in definition 2b, instead. [19:39] Librarian s/described/described/ [19:39] techrights-news More buzzwords. Buzzwords everywhere. https://www.theregister.com/2021/07/13/gitops_explained/ [19:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | What is GitOps? This is the technical introduction you've been looking for The Register [19:39] Librarian haha... s/desribed/described/ [19:40] techrights-news #freebsd 13 July: Enhanced commit privileges: Philip Paeps (src, ports, doc) https://www.freebsd.org/news/newsflash/#2021-07-13:0 [19:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freebsd.org | FreeBSD News Flash | The FreeBSD Project [19:44] techrights-news Coming up on July 19: Bug Hunting Session for LibreOffice 7.2 RC1 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153347#comment-30263 [19:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LibreOffice 7.2 RC1 is available for testing | Tux Machines [19:45] immibis and what of those who try to cram capitalism down the throats of the non-consenting by violence? [19:47] Librarian That would be unethical too, of course, and would contradict the definition of "capitalism" as I cited above: 12:24 < Librarian> One could also have recognized that they were ignorant of how capitalism works by reading its wikipedia article, firstparagraph, second sentence. Especially the 8th-9th words and the 17th-22nd words. [19:47] Librarian Which is why when companies try to get governments to enforce monopolies with violence, they aren't "capitalist" any more, but become "socialist" instead. Because then they meet "socialism" definition 2 b from Merriam-Webster.com. [19:48] *KindOne has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [19:48] Librarian But, as I said above: immibis, I'm always curious about people who feel so certain of themselves, but exhibit such extremes of ignorance of economic fundamentals. Can you tell me a little about how you were educated? Especially: how was your education funded? [19:49] techrights-news Top 7 #PDFEditors for #Ubuntu Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153389 [19:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Top 7 PDF Editors for Ubuntu Linux | Tux Machines [19:50] techrights-news " #UbuntuTouch is the #privacy and #freedomrespecting mobile operating system by #UBports . Today we are happy to announce the release of Ubuntu Touch OTA-18," https://ubports.com/blog/ubports-news-1/post/ubuntu-touch-ota-18-release-3764 [19:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ubuntu Touch OTA-18 Release | Ubports [19:51] techrights-news Release Date, New Features, and Review of #Ubuntu 21.04 https://linuxhint.com/ubuntu-21-04-review-features/ #gnu #linux [19:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxhint.com | Release Date, New Features, and Review of Ubuntu 21.04 Linux Hint [19:53] techrights-news Bikes with computers on them https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/07/14/xuan-bike-self-balancing-self-riding-bicycle-relies-on-flywheel-22-tops-huawei-ascend-a310-ai-processor/ [19:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | XUAN-Bike self-balancing, self-riding bicycle relies on flywheel, 22 TOPS Huawei Ascend A310 AI processor - CNX Software [19:55] techrights-news #RADV #Radeon Driver Lands NGG Culling Support As Another Performance Win https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=RADV-Lands-NGG-Culling #linux #graphics [19:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-RADV Radeon Driver Lands NGG Culling Support As Another Performance Win - Phoronix [19:55] *KindOne (kindone@user/kindone) has joined #techrights [19:56] techrights-news More Than Five Years In The Making: Creating A New Linux #RandomNumberGenerator (common backdoor vector, targeting entropy) - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=LRNG-Random-2021-v41 #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/07/14/#latest [19:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-More Than Five Years In The Making: Creating A New Linux Random Number Generator - Phoronix [19:57] techrights-news #Adreno 660 + 635 Now Supported By The Open-Source OpenGL/Vulkan Drivers - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Adreno-635-660-Mesa #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/07/14/#latest [19:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Adreno 660 + 635 Now Supported By The Open-Source OpenGL/Vulkan Drivers - Phoronix [19:58] techrights-news 3 tips for #Linux process performance improvement with priority and affinity https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/tune-linux-tips #ibm #redhat [19:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | 3 tips for Linux process performance improvement with priority and affinity | Enable Sysadmin [19:58] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [19:59] techrights-news #UbuntuTouch OTA-18 Officially Released with Performance Improvements, Bug Fixes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153390 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [19:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Touch OTA-18 Officially Released with Performance Improvements, Bug Fixes | Tux Machines ● Jul 14 [20:00] *inky (~inky@141.136.76.30) has joined #techrights [20:02] techrights-news #IBM / #RedHat Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153391 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines [20:04] techrights-news Intel Still Hasn't Gotten To Landing Per-Client Engine Busyness Reporting For Linux - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-2021-Still-Per-Client-WIP #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/07/14/#latest [20:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Still Hasn't Gotten To Landing Per-Client Engine Busyness Reporting For Linux - Phoronix [20:04] techrights-news #intel does not really care about #linux http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks [20:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intel leaks - Techrights [20:08] techrights-news #Kernel: RNG, Intel, Adreno, and AMD http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153392 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: RNG, Intel, Adreno, and AMD | Tux Machines [20:09] immibis odd that you're saying modern capitalism is not capitalism [20:12] Librarian It would be, if I were saying that. But I'm not saying that. I'm saying that modern *socialism* is not capitalism. That would continue to be true even if I weren't here to cite the dictionaries and encyclopedias to you. [20:12] techrights-news #Python Programming http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153393 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Python Programming | Tux Machines [20:13] Librarian If you could look up the words yourself, to be sure you weren't misusing them every time you spoke, then you could perhaps have some credibility on this subject. But you can't, so you don't. You just use this subject as an opportunity to demonstrate that you are a pathological liar. [20:14] Librarian So, I get it. You have presented ample evidence that you are a pathological liar, as one of several symptoms of your psychopathy. And now we can also see that you are embarrassed to tell how your education was funded. That's probably a good thing. It's probably something that you *should* be embarrassed by, given your demonstrated ignorance. [20:16] techrights-news Ubuntu Touch OTA 18 brings improved performance for older devices, among other updates http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153390#comment-30266 [20:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Touch OTA-18 Officially Released with Performance Improvements, Bug Fixes | Tux Machines [20:20] techrights-news Happy 4.20: Latest version of Tails bakes connection wizard into top-secret Linux distro http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153341#comment-30267 [20:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tails 4.20 Anonymous OS Released with Brand-New Tor Connection Assistant | Tux Machines [20:22] techrights-news What the Linux Mint developers have pulled off is nothing short of astounding http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153395 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What the Linux Mint developers have pulled off is nothing short of astounding | Tux Machines [20:22] techrights-news quotation text here [20:23] techrights-news Top 10 reasons to migrate to #MariaDB http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153394 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #FreeSW [20:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Top 10 reasons to migrate to MariaDB | Tux Machines [20:25] immibis so capitalism is crammed down the throats of the non-consenting by violence... by socialists? lmao wtf [20:27] Librarian If it's "crammed down the throats of the non-consenting by violence," then by definition it is not capitalism. It just means you're misusing that word because you're either ignorant or maliciously trying to redefine it. [20:29] techrights-news #mesa 21.2.0-rc1 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153396 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | mesa 21.2.0-rc1 | Tux Machines [20:30] techrights-news This is #gnu rather than #linux as it's not a #kernel program https://www.makeuseof.com/how-to-use-sort-in-linux/ [20:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | How to Sort Text Files in Linux Using the sort Command [20:31] Librarian Would you like me to cite the exact URL, paragraph, sentence, and words that you're contradicting when you incorrectly attempt to define such actions as "capitalism?" I have already done so twice; you let me know if you were unable to follow my citations and need me to repeat them a third time. [20:33] techrights-news The 7 Best Ways to Learn #HowTo Code for Free https://www.makeuseof.com/learn-how-to-code-for-free/ #makeuseof #programming | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/07/14/#latest [20:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | The 7 Best Ways to Learn How to Code for Free [20:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [20:33] Ariadne https://twitter.com/Hey_ross/status/1415345438618648580 lol [20:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Hey_ross: @ariadneconill Hi there - drop me a DM, but we are reinstating your free tier account. DM me and I'll explain what https://t.co/DA2acf1fu4 [20:34] Ariadne why would i upgrade and continue with them now :D [20:36] *AdmFubar has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [20:37] schestowitz Ariadne: pure damage control [20:37] Ariadne yes [20:37] Ariadne they wouldnt have done that if it wasn't me either [20:37] schestowitz 2 weeks ago: http://techrights.org/2021/07/02/hp-censorship/ [20:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | HP Products Are Faulty and They Try to Censor Evidence of the Defects | Techrights [20:37] schestowitz it means your very short blog post was effective [20:37] schestowitz [18:37] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- techrights.org | Links 14/7/2021: OpenSearch 1.0, Oracle Clown Sucks, AlmaLinux 8.4 Reviewed | Techrights [20:37] immibis so you are saying that today's "capitalism" is not capitalism [20:37] Ariadne i dont think it was the blog post so much as who published it [20:38] immibis which economic system do we live under, then? socialism? [20:38] schestowitz that too [20:38] schestowitz some people do not get noticed [20:38] schestowitz and they want to keep it that way [20:38] schestowitz their mistake is that they hit the wrong person [20:38] schestowitz not that they terminated a benign account [20:39] schestowitz they prefer doing this to the voiceless [20:41] schestowitz https://www.businessinsider.com/look-inside-president-trump-and-larry-ellisons-relationship-2020-8 [20:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businessinsider.com | Look Inside President Trump and Larry Ellison's Relationship [20:42] schestowitz http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Oracle [20:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Oracle - Techrights [20:42] schestowitz really malicious company [20:42] Librarian I don't know where you live, but *I* live under a mixed system, where in some cases I am free to choose with whom to transact, and in other cases psychopaths use concentrated political power to force me to participate in low-quality systems. [20:43] Librarian But, let's be clear about this: I am not saying that today's "capitalism" is not capitalism. [20:43] Librarian I'm saying that today's *socialism* is not capitalism. [20:43] Librarian I do not use those words backwards, as you do. I use them as defined in the dictionaries and encyclopedias I have cited to you multiple times. [20:44] Librarian Why do you suppose it's so difficult for you to accept the definitions I have given you, from sources that I didn't write, but that merely desribe how everyone else uses those words? [20:44] *immibis_ (~immibis@bk3tq25u42a74.irc) has joined #techrights [20:44] *immibis_ (~immibis@2a02:3032:404:1b60:a9d2:4a7a:60e:e127) has joined #techrights [20:45] immibis_ Librarian: I live under a system where I am forced to either rent a house or prepay the present value of rent. You? [20:45] *immibis has quit (Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by immibis_!~immibis@2a02:3032:404:1b60:a9d2:4a7a:60e:e127))) [20:45] Librarian You keep on attempting to ignore the dictionaries and encyclopedias I have cited. Is that because you literally do not know how to look them up, even when I tell you where to find them? [20:45] *immibis_ is now known as immibis [20:45] *immibis has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:46] Librarian Isn't "prepaying the present value of rent" the same as "renting?" [20:47] immibis Capitalists keep telling me it's not [20:47] Librarian I bet you wish you'd demonstrated knowledge of what that word means, so that anyone could believe you now. :D [20:48] Librarian Because, if someone's forcing you to rent, then that's not capitalism. [20:48] schestowitz Ariadne: if you pass me along convas, I can do a techrights post about it, add to wiki [20:54] Ariadne apparently this is my bank's fault [20:55] Ariadne when i upgraded my account, they charged my card twice in a row, and BBVA anti-fraud hates that [20:58] schestowitz they they shoot first, ask questions later? [20:58] schestowitz both the bank and oracle? [20:58] schestowitz what is this was a house tenancy? [20:59] schestowitz there need to be stronger safeguards and burden on the evaluator ● Jul 14 [21:01] immibis so we do not live in capitalism [21:01] immibis we live in socialism and the institution of rent is socialist [21:01] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153397 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [21:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [21:01] Librarian I live in a mixed system. I have no idea where you live. [21:01] Librarian It sounds like a place governed by extremely stupid people, though. [21:01] techrights-news #Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153398 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [21:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [21:02] techrights-news Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153399 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [21:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [21:02] immibis you can tell it's stupid because people are forced to either rent, or prepay their rent upfront (often taking out huge loans to do so)? [21:02] Librarian But, I'm not going to give you credit for knowing what the word "rent" means, either. :D You've destroyed any concept of literacy anyone might have ever ascribed to you, just today alone. :D [21:02] immibis s/their rent upfront/the present value of rent/ [21:03] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 16.21 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 93.80 swarm size (avg): 287.81 [21:03] Librarian Yes, if those who govern you are forcing prices on you by violence, then that's socialism. [21:05] Librarian Where I live, I'm free to decide how much to pay on my own. If I want to pay less than the present value of rent and the seller agrees to accept it, I can make that transaction without anyone forcing me to do otherwise. [21:05] techrights-news Links 14/7/2021: Ubuntu Touch OTA 18 and Mesa 21.2 RC1 http://techrights.org/2021/07/14/ubuntu-touch-ota-18/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/07/14/ubuntu-touch-ota-18/ [21:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 14/7/2021: Ubuntu Touch OTA 18 and Mesa 21.2 RC1 | Techrights [21:06] Librarian Pricing is voluntary, on the part of the buyer and the seller. [21:06] Librarian Whoever's imposing a price floor or price cap on you at "the present value of rent" is indeed practicing socialism, and they're stupid for doing so. [21:07] Librarian There are a few socialists who aren't that stupid, but they live on kibbutzim and communes, voluntarily and peacefully exercising their values by themselves. But those who govern you and impose such price restrictions on you are simply demonstrating that socialists, aside from those in voluntary kibbutzim, are all fucking psychopaths. [21:08] immibis lol landlords are socialism? [21:09] techrights-news If #ibm cannot even set up old protocols like #email for its own use, what's left of this fossilised firm? https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bOOJG3J#replies [21:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Email a damn disaster... still - post regarding IBM layoffs [21:09] Librarian Which dictionary told you that? [21:09] immibis Where I live, the seller won't agree to accept less than the present value of rent, because that would make them a moron [21:09] immibis You told me it, just now. [21:09] Librarian No I didn't. [21:09] techrights-news LOL! "As long as they don't need email... :-)" #ibm #nl #catastrophe https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bO3WzcD#replies [21:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Atos and IBM to build infrastructure for the Dutch Ministry of Defense - post regarding IBM layoffs [21:09] immibis Yes, if those who govern you are forcing prices on you by violence, then that's socialism. [21:10] immibis Guess who forces me to pay a certain price for rent? [21:10] immibis And guess what happens if I don't? [21:10] Librarian Where do you live, that landlords are allowed to force you to transact with them by violence, if you don't agree to their prices? [21:10] Librarian Where I live, we just go somewhere else. :D [21:10] immibis Well, I have the option of being homeless. Just like the Soviet citizens had the option of starving. [21:11] immibis In the USA it is mandatory to transact with a landlord, or else pay the present value of rent upfront. [21:11] techrights-news Since 2003 I've done my own #email with my own domain. #ibm in 2021 (with like a quarter million employees) can't do its own? Can't self-host #git either (I do), outsourcing to #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware instead? WHAT ARE POTENTIAL CLIENTS SUPPOSED TO THINK??? [21:11] Librarian See, where I live, I have the option of buying my own property, or of transacting with a different landlord, or of living with family and friends, or of moving somewhere else. [21:11] Librarian Are you in North Korea? [21:11] Librarian No it isn't. I'm in the USA. [21:11] Librarian I have all the additional options I listed. [21:12] Librarian Oh, are you in Cuba, perhaps? Or Venezuela? [21:12] Librarian Where do you live? [21:12] techrights-news " #IBM announced in 2020 that they were exiting the small and medium sized books of business. They combine OEM/small and medium transactions into 3 billion dollar tranches and sell them off." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bOqNfeT#replies [21:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | IGF Screwed By IBM Management - post regarding IBM layoffs [21:12] immibis What are your additional options? [21:12] Librarian 14:11 < Librarian> See, where I live, I have the option of buying my own property, or of transacting with a different landlord, or of living with family and friends, or of moving somewhere else. [21:12] immibis So far, you have described the options of prepaying the present value of rent, or paying rent, or being homeless, or doing one of these three in a different location. [21:12] Librarian Where I live (in the USA), landlords can't *force* you to transact with them. [21:13] Librarian I have also described the options of buying my own property, or of living with family and friends. [21:13] Librarian So, where do you live? [21:13] Librarian China? [21:13] Librarian Cambodia? [21:13] Librarian Vietnam? [21:14] immibis When you buy a property, you prepay the present value of rent, often taking out a ridiculous loan to do so. [21:14] Librarian Or a greater or lesser value than the present value of rent, depending on supply and demand. [21:14] immibis Living with family and friends is being homeless. They don't want you there. [21:14] immibis Always the present value of rent or greater. Why would anyone sell a property for less than that amount, when they could sell it for that amount? [21:14] Librarian I understand why your family and friends don't want you there. :) [21:15] immibis They can always sell it for that amount to a professional landlord [21:15] Librarian There are many reasons. Usually it has to do with not wanting the responsibilities of property ownership. [21:16] Librarian Sometimes it's a time-preference decision. They need to find a buyer within a narrow timespan. [21:16] Librarian So, I guess you're as embarrassed to tell me where you live, as you are to tell me how your education was funded. [21:16] Librarian I guess you must have made some really shitty life choices, huh? [21:16] Librarian That's probaby why your family and friends don't want you living with them, too, I suppose. [21:17] Librarian Oh... I forgot that being a pathological liar usually has that effect. [21:17] immibis "Usually it has to do with not wanting the responsibilities of property ownership." <- then they can sell it to a professional landlord for approximately the present value of rent [21:18] Librarian Unless professional landlords believe that future rents will go down. [21:18] immibis Sometimes it's a time-preference decision. They need to find a buyer within a narrow timespan. <- then they can sell it to a professional house flipper who buys it and onsells it to a professional landlord for approximately the present value of rent. The professional flipper will pay only slightly less than the landlord. Have you heard of the efficient market hypothesis? [21:18] immibis Unless professional landlords believe that future rents will go down. <- in which case it is still the present value of rent [21:18] Librarian Oh, you're trying to redefine the word "present" to mean "future." [21:18] Librarian Well, that's dumb of you. D [21:18] Librarian :D [21:19] Librarian I guess that explains why nobody among your family or friends wants you living with them. [21:19] immibis It seems you do not understand the concept of present value. [21:19] techrights-news #covid19 is not under control. Not in the East, not in Europe... def. not in #africa (where diagnosis/testing is more scarce) https://www.beefcentral.com/live-export/se-asia-report-mar-2021-4-2-2-4-4/ the extremists still bicker about their #patent "rights" [21:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.beefcentral.com | SE Asia Report: COVID surge creating havoc across Asia - Beef Central [21:19] immibis "Present value of rent" does not mean "the amount of rent that you pay this month". I suggest taking a basic economics course. [21:19] Librarian It seems I do not accept your attempt to redefine "present." [21:20] Librarian I guess demonstrating that you reject the dictionary's definitions of terms has left you unable to communicate clearly. What do you suppose you could do to rectify your problem? [21:20] Librarian And do you think it would affect your family and friends' unwillingness to let you live with them, if you were to seek out such personal improvement? [21:20] immibis Take note: his mental incapacity, both the inability to judge context and his psychopathy, are common to *all* socialists who are not already living in kibbutzim or communes. There aren't any who are any less mentally crippled than Librarian is demonstrating himself to be here. [21:21] techrights-news Olympics? Now? Insane. https://www.saratogian.com/sports/national/us-olympic-team-expects-competitive-game-vs-wnba-all-stars/article_ef647ec9-357a-5227-a53b-4a29acc3670e.html see http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/07/11/covid-surge/ [21:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-US Olympic team expects competitive game vs WNBA All-Stars | National | saratogian.com [21:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Filling Up Wembley When Over 200,000 Brits Contract COVID-19 Every Week Sends the Wrong Message About Public Safety [21:21] *psydroid_ has quit (connection closed) [21:21] immibis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_present_value [21:23] techrights-news Over 50k new #covid19 cases/day in the #uk coming soon. Remember what out government said about such daily rates merely a year ago. Ignoring their very own advice when that suits their cheap rhetoric? http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/06/22/lock-down-again/ [21:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com Blog Archive The Tories Are Lying and You Should Consider Going Into Lock-down Again (Irrespective of What the Government Says) [21:24] techrights-news #uk press: ignore hundreds of dead people, let's talk about some forgotten 1990s celeb getting married. [21:24] Librarian Nope; nothing in there says that purchase prices must always be the present value. [21:24] Librarian Guess it didn't support your assertion. Bummer. [21:25] techrights-news Comparing fashionable consumption to sport/health? https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/14/fashion/the-olympics-of-dressing.html #nytimes lacks important things to cover? [21:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | The Peacocks Return - The New York Times [21:26] immibis Guess you still don't understand the concept of a present value. Guess you still don't understand how to apply things in the correct context instead of unrelated contexts where they're meaningless. Bummer [21:27] Librarian Nah; I'm always able to refer to the exact dictionary definitions, and the exact paragraph, sentences, and words within those sentences that support my definitions. [21:27] techrights-news The economy is 'bouncing back' like a person in 'E.R.' is bouncing back after being prepared for the morgue. When everything is relative #propaganda or mass #indoctrination is cheaply made. [21:27] Librarian You aren't able to provide any such wording that supports what you believe, so with your inability to support your assertions with any evidence... [21:27] Librarian Hitchens's Razor obtains. [21:27] techrights-news Corporate media owned by the rich: the system is working! Just be patient and stop being lazy!! [21:28] techrights-news Nobody doubts this, not even #patent lawyers (deep inside): #patents have only exacerbated the #covid19 #pandemic because #monopolies devalue lives [21:29] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [21:29] immibis Can you refer to the exact sentence where it says the payment is always the same amount and on a regular schedule? [21:29] Librarian So, in your ignorance and inability to support any of your opinions with evidence, you've found that nobody will sell anything to you for a price you agree to, and your family and friends don't want you living with them. [21:29] Librarian Tell me: why would anybody want to share your opinions, when they could adhere to mine and have ample choices with whom to transact instead? [21:30] immibis Can you refer to the exact sentence where it says the payment is always the same amount and on a regular schedule? [21:31] immibis Can you refer to the exact sentence where it says the present value is NOT about the future? [21:31] Librarian I'm sure if you have a point to make, you'll either copy/paste the text to me, or give me the exact sentence you want me to look at, as I have. [21:31] immibis The word "future" appears 5 times in the second paragraph. Can you explain to me why those are not relevant? [21:31] immibis Oh, you're trying to redefine the word "present" to mean "future." [21:31] Librarian But, since you haven't, we must simply accept that you're a pathological liar. [21:32] Librarian And that kind of fits, with the idea that you can't find anyone to transact with you on your terms, and your family and friends don't want you to live with them. [21:32] immibis Present value is derived from expectations of the future, as I have clearly shown using a Wikipedia article. But you refuse to read it because it suggests that you might not be infallible. Narcissists can't tolerate making mistakes. [21:32] techrights-news Products, esp. security products, made for both #microsoft #windows and #unix or #gnu #linux don't inspire confidence because porting over to a NSA back-doored platform tells me all I need to know about their approach towards security. Same for usage of GitHub at any level of capacity. [21:32] Librarian Oh, I make lots of mistakes. But believing any definition you offer is not among them. :) [21:33] Librarian We learned long ago never to trust your assertions about anything, as you are a pathological liar. [21:33] Librarian So, either cite what you want to cite that makes a valuable point, or continue to be believed to be a pathological liar. [21:33] immibis Do you believe this Wikipedia page has been vandalized by trolls? [21:33] techrights-news "PARTNER CONTENT" = spam. BTW, you need not "PROCURE" #freesw per se; you download, distribute, deploy, maintain. This is spam, which is what #itnews was reduced to https://www.itnews.com.au/digitalnation/why-it-departments-need-to-rethink-procurement-567344 [21:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itnews.com.au | Why IT departments need to rethink procurement - Digital Nation - iTnews - Partner Content [21:33] Librarian I believe that you will never cite any sentence from it that supports your opinion. [21:34] Librarian You will not give any paragraph/sentence number that says that no transaction is ever below the present value. [21:34] Librarian Err, no purchase price for property or investment. [21:36] techrights-news It is always a good sign when employers list "GNU / Linux" rather than just "Linux" because it typically means they know what they're talking about, e.g. https://www.eu-startups.com/job/software-hardware-system-developer/ [21:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Software/Hardware System Developer | EU-Startups [21:36] *Librarian whistles a little tune while he waits for immibis to cite such a statement. [21:36] immibis You will not give any paragraph/sentence number that says I am redefining the word "present" to mean "future". [21:36] immibis imagine not having any other things to do than argue why you should be allowed to destroy society [21:37] immibis which you shouldn't, by the way [21:37] techrights-news When you use this program you're basically a pawn of Google; when I made #Android apps I used #Eclipse ( #Google doesn't like things it cannot control). https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2021/07/android-studio-what-is-it-everything-you-need-to-know/ [21:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gizmodo.com.au | Android Studio: Everything You Need To Know About Android's App Builder [21:38] Librarian https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/present see noun 2, entry 4 of 4, definition 1. [21:38] immibis https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/present%20value see the definition [21:39] immibis you can read, right? [21:39] Librarian Yeah, but it doesn't say anything in there about how a purchase will never occur at below the present value. [21:40] Librarian Can you copy/paste that part to me? Because I've read it twice now, and I don't see that in there anywhere. [21:40] Librarian What *I* see is: "the sum of money which if invested now at a given rate of compound interest will accumulate exactly to a specified amount at a specified future date" [21:40] Librarian That also doesn't say that rents will never go down. [21:41] Librarian That also doesn't say that a rental lease will always exactly occupy the length of time needed to reach the "specified amount at a specified date." [21:41] Librarian So that's three ways it doesn't support your opinion. [21:41] immibis Can you point to the part where I am redefining "present" to mean "future"? [21:42] techrights-news Mobile phones are all spies (modern ones more so); mobile apps are mostly useless (compared to proper software/applications); iOS/Android development leaves you at the mercy of bad companies that will render your work/code worthless in just a few years, due to frameworks and upgrade treadmills. Don't do it! [21:42] immibis Given that the definition already says "future"? [21:42] Librarian It says "the sum of money which if invested *now*." [21:42] Librarian It says nothing about being a price floor or price ceiling for a purchase. [21:43] techrights-news "One shot" https://www.libyaherald.com/2021/07/14/500000-doses-of-one-shot-sputnik-light-expected-by-the-end-of-the-week/ Stalin's "one shot" was at the back of the neck [21:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.libyaherald.com | 500,000 doses of one-shot Sputnik Light expected by the end of the week | [21:43] Librarian So, Hitchens's Razor obtains. We'll just forget you ever tried to have your opinion about purchase prices taken seriously. ;D [21:44] immibis Oh right, you can't, because it's not true and you have nothing to back it up. [21:44] Librarian Bottom line is that different people have different opinions about what investment (especially a rental property) will be worth in the future, so there are always choices about whether a purchase price is "worth it" or not. [21:44] immibis Tell me, if you were a landlord, how would you calculate the price to buy a property at? [21:44] Librarian Correct; your opinion about purchase prices is not true. [21:44] techrights-news Building #monopolies and fences around a pandemic instead of actually putting an end to it https://pink.pharmaintelligence.informa.com/PS144448/New-COVID-19-Vaccine-Patent-Database-Launched #patent #monopoly #patents [21:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://pink.pharmaintelligence.informa.com/PS144448/New-COVID-19-Vaccine-Patent-Database-Launched ) [21:44] immibis LOL. Nice deflection. You claim that I redefined "present" to mean "future" and you cannot back that up. [21:44] immibis You're acting like a socialist. Don't accidentally cause a famine! [21:44] Librarian I already did: 14:42 < Librarian> It says "the sum of money which if invested *now*." [21:45] immibis Continue reading. You are capable of reading more than 8 words. I believe in you! [21:45] Librarian But the "specified amount at a specified future date," when talking about rental properties, is not just a given rate of compound interest. It involves many, many valuation factors, which can vary from person to person. [21:46] techrights-news #GreenParty Hawkins Blasts Bidens Failure to Call for Filibuster Reform in #VotingRights Speech https://howiehawkins.us/release-hawkins-blasts-bidens-failure-to-call-for-filibuster-reform-in-voting-rights-speech/ [21:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-howiehawkins.us | RELEASE: Hawkins Blasts Bidens Failure to Call for Filibuster Reform in Voting Rights Speech | Howie Hawkins for our Future [21:46] immibis Ah. There's that word "future". Did you skip over it or did you wilfully misrepresent the definition? [21:47] Librarian Neither. I explained about how it's not relevant to rental properties, because rental properties are not "a given rate of compound interest" but involves many, many valuation factors, which can vary from person to person. [21:47] techrights-news #techrights makes rapid progress towards having all of the wiki (about 700 pages) in gemini:// [21:48] Librarian And can be very difficult to foresee. Will there be major repairs needed to the property, will crime go up in the neighborhood, etc. etc. [21:48] techrights-news Tomorrow gemini:// @ #techrights will have scheduled downtime due to network upgrades http://techrights.org/2021/07/13/gemini-downtime/ [21:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Scheduled Maintenance: Thursday Afternoon/Evening (July 15 2021) | Techrights [21:48] Librarian Different people can predict differently, and that's why landlords and tenants both need to be free to choose their own acceptable prices. [21:49] Librarian So, where do you live that landlords can force such decisions onto prospective tenants? [21:49] Librarian North Korea? [21:49] Librarian Cuba? [21:49] Librarian Venezuela? [21:49] Librarian Cambodia? [21:49] Librarian Vietnam? [21:49] Librarian China? [21:50] techrights-news No RMS talks since May https://stallman.org/talks.html [21:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | Talks - Richard Stallman [21:50] techrights-news List of some RMS talks with full files (video) http://audio-video.gnu.org/video/#2021 [21:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-audio-video.gnu.org | Audio/Video - GNU Project - Free-Software Foundation [21:51] Librarian It must be very embarrassing for you, to be affected by *your own* economic advocacy so negatively! [21:52] techrights-news "No wonder #ibm is dying and they wouldn't pay market salaries" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bLdMtla#replies [21:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Resigned for greener pastures last week - post regarding IBM layoffs [21:52] MinceR https://nitter.fdn.fr/JStoteraux/status/1413326562821246978 [21:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.fdn.fr | James Stoteraux (@JStoteraux): "There were 55 students in my incoming class at Columbias MFA Film program. Only 4 of us ever managed to make a career out of it. And of those 4, one guy dropped out the first semester. Funny enough hes the most successful one having co-directed Avengers Endgame. Hi Anthony!" | FDNitter [21:52] techrights-news #ibm "Used to respect and be proud to work there - but then saw the massive prejudice they have for anyone over 45-50 years old and the inventive ways they have to demoralize and get rid of them." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bNGonpS#replies [21:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | How much respect does IBM have in the industry? - post regarding IBM layoffs [21:53] techrights-news #ibm is NOT a tolerant company. It keeps claiming that is IT just in order to CONFUSE people (it's a PR strategy): http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/IBM [21:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM - Techrights [21:54] techrights-news "And then #Covid19 happened ... so maybe all those results are no longer valid in this very-much-changed world. #IBM may be skating to where the puck was 2 years ago. As usual." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bJpHpEe#replies [21:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Rob Thomas' 3Q Sales Kickoff - post regarding IBM layoffs [21:56] techrights-news #microsoft is not market leader but layoffs leader that defrauds the shareholders, lies to the media, and bribes critics (like #billgates did) http://techrights.org/2020/02/03/azure-lies/ http://techrights.org/2020/07/23/microsoft-defrauding-again/ [21:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Azure (or Cloud) Results Are Most Likely an Elaborate Fraud | Techrights [21:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft is Defrauding Its Shareholders While Laying Off About 5,000 Workers | Techrights [21:56] immibis There you go again with the attempted misdirection. You continually refuse to acknowledge that you lied [21:56] immibis and you attempt to project it onto me as if I should be embarassed by that. [21:57] immibis It must be hard to process for you, being a narcissist socialist [21:58] techrights-news #swpats versus society https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/7/14/vvc-frand-royalty-report-by-charles-river-asso-estimates-lower-rates-because-of-av1-adoption #AV1 #patents #monopoly #cartel [21:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | VVC FRAND royalty report by Charles River Asso. estimates lower rates because of AV1 adoption Unified Patents [21:59] Librarian I didn't lie, and I'm not a socialist. [21:59] techrights-news Self Hosted, WEB Photo Organizer With Photoprism and Raspberry PI https://peppe8o.com/self-hosted-web-photo-organizer-with-photoprism-and-raspberry-pi/ #peppe8o | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/07/14/#latest [21:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-peppe8o.com | Self Hosted, WEB Photo Organizer With Photoprism and Raspberry PI [21:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts ● Jul 14 [22:00] techrights-news " #Netstat is a Linux tool that system admins use for analyzing network stats." #nmon is nice too. I love it. https://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/netstat-linux/ [22:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.addictivetips.com | How to install Netstat on Linux [22:01] Librarian But, I do thank you for your continued demonstration of your pathological lying. It's a good illustration of how everyone who shares your economic ideals, but isn't already practicing them on voluntary kibbutzim, suffers fro psychopathy. [22:01] Librarian s/fro/from/ [22:02] techrights-news Sadly, despite warnings, 32 people are still online in a channel called #techrights but isn't connected to us in any way. http://techrights.org/2021/06/25/irc-clarity/ [22:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights is NOT on Libera Chat, Techrights Has Its Own IRC Network | Techrights [22:03] immibis LOL. More lying, more projection. Nothing else ever comes out of your mouth because you're a socialist. [22:03] immibis all you can do is lie and then try to cover up your lies. Do you admit you were wrong when you said I redefined "present" as "future"? [22:04] Librarian Well, I think we have one thing achieved: the agreement that socialists (outside of kibbutzim) are all liars who project their faults onto others. [22:04] immibis That's an odd moment of self-awareness from you. Unusual. [22:04] Librarian No; I wasn't wrong. Both your sources support that "present value" refers to the *input* amount of money *now* and not the expected outcome amount later. [22:05] Librarian So, if you want to claim that I'm a liar and projecting my faults, all you have to do is cite something I've said that fits the definition of "socialist." [22:06] Librarian If you can't find anything I've advocated for that fits the definition of "socialism," then we'll know that *you're* the pathological liar instead. [22:06] techrights-news Previews of #techrights wiki over gemini:// gemini://gemini.techrights.org/wiki/ [22:06] Librarian So, go ahead: copy and paste from your log, where I have advocated for anything that fits the definition of "socialism." [22:07] techrights-news "Keep it simple!" #geminiProtocol #internet https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006918.html [22:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Decentralized content creation and linking [22:09] techrights-news Assuming about 400,000 hits/day in #techrights #www for 15 years, we're looking at over 2 billion hits in total. We coined many terms and have had positive impact. If only we had more time to write... [22:11] techrights-news #amazon is no longer lungs to the planet (the real Amazon, not the crooked company), as #bolsonaro treats it like it's worthless or mere lumber. [22:12] techrights-news Despite all their #greenwashing the large tech companies -- all without exception -- strive to sell you as much crap as possible. They don't care about the planet; they just care about it being good sales PR. [22:13] Librarian Nothing yet, huh? Gosh, that must be very embarrassing for you. [22:13] Librarian Well, here's a little snippet of my clear advocacy, in case this helps: [22:13] Librarian 14:48 < Librarian> And can be very difficult to foresee. Will there be major repairs needed to the property, will crime go up in the neighborhood, etc. etc. [22:13] Librarian 14:48 < Librarian> Different people can predict differently, and that's why landlords and tenants both need to be free to choose their own acceptable prices. [22:16] techrights-news 6 Must-Have Open-Source Tools to Secure Your Linux #Server http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153400 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [22:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 6 Must-Have Open-Source Tools to Secure Your Linux Server | Tux Machines [22:16] Librarian Here's another example of my clear advocacy: [22:16] Librarian 15:52 < Librarian> When everyone along the supply chain has the economic right to choose their associations, their methods, their relationships, and their transactions, then they are free to innovate and improve, and respond more quickly to changing conditions. [22:18] techrights-news We Have Perfected #Tiling #WindowManager Rices https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZ3tw-cD_1E #gnu #linux [22:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-We Have Perfected Tiling Window Manager Rices - YouTube [22:19] techrights-news #AMD Zen 3 APU Temperature Monitoring Narrowly Misses Linux 5.14 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153401 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [22:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AMD Zen 3 APU Temperature Monitoring Narrowly Misses Linux 5.14 | Tux Machines [22:21] techrights-news LF does not even know what it exists for anymore, except hoarding money by misusing the #Linux brand to its very own detriment https://www.linux.com/news/how-lfca-compares-to-legacy-entry-level-it-certifications/ see http://techrights.org/2021/01/25/linux-foundation-training-and-certifications/ [22:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How LFCA Compares to Legacy Entry-Level IT Certifications - Linux.com [22:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Linux Foundation, With Over 124 Million Dollars in Annual Revenue, is in Trouble Because of the Pandemic, So Its Trying to Reinvent Itself as Training and Certifications Outfit | Techrights [22:22] techrights-news The "Linux" mark is being milked by death by people who never even use Linux. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_Foundation [22:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation - Techrights [22:22] immibis Librarian: you are aware that each transaction has two sides? [22:23] Librarian That is indeed what the word "both" indicates in the following sentence: 15:13 < Librarian> 14:48 < Librarian> Different people can predict differently, and that's why landlords and tenants both need to be free to choose their own acceptable prices. [22:24] techrights-news If you look at https://www.linux.com/ under "Featured News" most of the stories aren't even about Linux! Some of that is #proprietarySoftware and #openwashing of Windows. And I've seen the site in MUCH WORSE optics. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_Foundation [22:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux.com - News For Open Source Professionals [22:24] Librarian So, I guess that means your sudden change of subject, when challenged to supply any evidence that I am an advocate of socialism, means you now acknowledge that I am *not* the liar that we agree all socialists are. [22:25] Librarian Aaaaand that means your calling me a socialist is an example of *your* being a pathological liar. [22:25] immibis Librarian: Then you are aware that if you invest $x and receive $y over time, someone else earns $x and gives up $y over time? [22:25] immibis If you are not aware of that concept you are indeed a socialist [22:26] Librarian Oh, is that what "monetary inflation" means? :D [22:26] Librarian I thought it meant that the supply wasn't fixed, so zero-sum math was inappropriate. [22:26] Librarian Which of us is correct about that? [22:27] techrights-news You can easily tell #zdnet is run by/for #ibm and #microsoft ... they bribe it for PR in 'news' clothing basically. Latest 5 stories in "LINUX" section: IBM, IBM, Microsoft, IBM, anti-Linux FUD... #boycottznet http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/ZDNet [22:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ZDNet - Techrights [22:27] Librarian Also, I didn't see anything about either "zero-sum" economics nor "monetary inflation" in either definition of socialism that I cited. So it looks like you're just making that up as a diversion. [22:28] Librarian Like you're now embarrassed at your inability to cite any evidence of me advocating for socialism. [22:29] techrights-news #FSF annual revenue was $2,183,470 in 2018 - 2019: https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/42888848 before #ibm #billgates #microsoft etc. attacked FSF, mostly by personifying, concern-trolling, defaming, and provoking in #socialcontrolmedia [22:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-projects.propublica.org | Free Software Foundation Inc - Nonprofit Explorer - ProPublica [22:30] techrights-news Mansion of Pedophilia - Part II: Dr. Stallman Defamed in the Media One Day After Request Made for King County Sheriffs Office to Divulge Information About Pedophilia in Home of Bill Gates techrights.org/2019/12/21/police-report-bill-gates/ #Techrights #GNU #billgates #mit [22:31] techrights-news Media reports #billgates almost sobbing about his divorce. Not unthinkable he'll be found dead in a jail cell some time this coming decade... like his BFF whom he visited in jail for #reputationlaundering https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates.html [22:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Bill Gates Met With Jeffrey Epstein Many Times, Despite His Past - The New York Times [22:32] techrights-news #billgates : we need to stop people talking about my crimes online and behind my back http://techrights.org/2020/08/14/control-but-no-accountability/ [22:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | High-Level Criminals Associate Privacy With Crime Because They Want Privacy Only for Themselves (Control But No Accountability) | Techrights [22:34] techrights-news #billgates became a client of #twitter and Twitter censors for him now http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/bill-gates-pays-twitter/ #censorship example (they did the same to me a day earlier) http://techrights.org/2021/02/05/twitter-censorship-bingo/ [22:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Reality is Warped When You Pay for Perception Management (or: Bill Gates Pays Twitter for Propaganda) | Techrights [22:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Twitter Has Just Suspended the President of FFII for Naming Bill Gates Patent Profiteering and Factual Information About Twitter Censorship (Updated) | Techrights [22:35] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/21061087 [22:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5549291) [22:35] techrights-news #twitter and #facebook revenue boils down to #indoctrination as a "disservice", e.g. http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/bill-gates-pays-twitter/ #socialcontrolmedia #RealityDistortion [22:36] schestowitz MinceR: you could show ones with angles as naked kidsw [22:37] schestowitz with little dicks showing near "God' [22:37] schestowitz but that's now P-C, except in museums and churches [22:37] schestowitz it gets the priests hard [22:43] immibis Librarian: So I can print money? [22:43] immibis The only way for me to acquire $y without someone else losing $y is for me to print it. [22:44] immibis So that is what you're implying. Neat. [22:44] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [22:45] Librarian No, not *you*. The US Federal Reserve does it. [22:45] schestowitz you can imagine what European nationalists would have said if Muslims depicted Allah/Mo (they cannot) surrounded by 'baby dicks' like in church 'art' [22:45] Librarian And they do indeed print a *lot* of it. [22:45] immibis But they'll print it for me, on demand? [22:45] Librarian Probably not for you, but yes, that's what they do. It's called "quantitative easing." [22:46] immibis So I can't get any without taking it from someone else? [22:46] *immibis_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:46] techrights-news "The worse is that the Chair of the AC in 2016 then became VP 5 Legal and International Affairs when the present head of the EPO took office. In other words, he just wanted a cushy job with a lot of money and perks before retiring for good." #epo #corruption #de #germany #patents http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/07/13/ilo-epo-president-battistelli-abused-his-power-in-restraining-workers-right-to-strike/ [22:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | ILO: EPO president Battistelli abused his power in restraining workers right to strike - Kluwer Patent Blog [22:46] Librarian https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M1SL [22:47] immibis So I can't get any without taking it from someone else? [22:47] Librarian There's a good graph that shows just how crazy-much money the US federal reserve has fabricated out of thin air, just in the past two years. [22:47] Librarian What do you mean by "taking?" You mean like robbing or stealing? No, there are other ways to get it. [22:47] techrights-news "nepotism? cronyism? abuse of power? abuse of law? CORRUPTION? Thanks God, nothing of the kind at EPO my Dear." #epo #corruption #de #germany #patents http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/07/13/ilo-epo-president-battistelli-abused-his-power-in-restraining-workers-right-to-strike/#comments [22:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | ILO: EPO president Battistelli abused his power in restraining workers right to strike - Kluwer Patent Blog [22:47] Librarian Like, by creating value for other people. [22:48] Librarian Well, no, *you* can't do that either, can you. :D [22:48] Librarian Your family and friends don't even want you to live with them. :D [22:48] Librarian Shall we say, *non-psychopaths* can get money from other people by creating value for them. [22:48] immibis I mean taking. What do you think taking means? "Take my money!" shouts the customer as he sees an advertisement for a compuglobalhypermegawhatsit 9000 [22:48] Librarian That option is probably not open to you specifically and individually. [22:49] immibis Ah. "Get money from other people". There you go. You acknowledge it as a possibility. [22:49] immibis If someone gives me $5000, I take it from them. [22:49] Librarian Yes, okay. [22:49] immibis Unless you mean a form of getting money other than being given it? Such as robbing or stealing? Of course you socialists would only be able to comprehend such ways of getting money. [22:50] MinceR :> [22:50] Librarian You did not provide any evidence of when I have ever advocated for socialism, so thank you for that further demonstration of your pathological lying. [22:50] immibis By the way, creating value for other people does not cause you to get money. Billing them for the value you created causes you to get money. Sometimes. Other times it causes them to tell you to fuck off. [22:51] immibis Well you did just say people couldn't give me money, but then quickly changed your mind when you realized your mask had slipped off [22:51] Librarian No I did not just say people couldn't give you money, but thank you for that further demonstration of your pathological lying. [22:51] techrights-news #Patents can do endless harm if the law is misused (as happens a lot these days); our objective should be to convince #patent litigation fanatics/profiters that this is the case and get them to publicly admit it] http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/07/whats-point-of-trips-waiver-reply.html [22:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Whats the point of a TRIPS waiver?" A reply - The IPKat [22:52] immibis What do you mean by "taking?" You mean like robbing or stealing? No, there are other ways to get it. [22:52] Librarian Exactly. That doesn't say anywhere that people can't give it to you. [22:53] techrights-news The latest of many #fakepatents to just simply perish. Notice who granted this and ponder how/why... https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/cases/bat-and-kirkland-invalidate-four-philip-morris-heat-not-burn-patents/ #patent #monopolies #patents [22:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.juve-patent.com | BAT and Kirkland invalidate four Philip Morris heat-not-burn patents - JUVE Patent [22:53] Librarian That's one of the "other ways" I mentioned in sentence 3, words 4 and 5 of your quote of me. [22:56] techrights-news If you are an online activist, don't despair. To make positive change you can convince X people to convince Y more people (who in turn speak to Z) about the issues. We typically have a stronger story and the facts on our side. We need to get information corrected. The rest will follow. Corporate PR loses. It does not scale. [22:57] techrights-news #twitter is NOT activism. Twitter is anti-activism. #socialcontrolmedia is controlled by its PAYING clients, e.g. #billgates 1) http://techrights.org/2021/02/05/twitter-censorship-bingo/ 2) http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/bill-gates-pays-twitter/ [22:59] techrights-news Having a #twitter account to remind people to stop getting 'info' from Twitter is maybe a net positive. Same for #youtube ● Jul 14 [23:00] techrights-news #FLOSSWeekly 638: #Bufferbloat and Beyond - Dave Taht https://twit.tv/shows/floss-weekly/episodes/638 Doc Searls and Jonathan Bennett [23:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-twit.tv | Bufferbloat and Beyond [23:00] immibis It means you didn't even think of giving. Otherwise, you would have assumed that I meant giving, instead of leaping to the conclusion that I meant robbing or stealing. [23:01] techrights-news Places to get killed in https://www.quickenloans.com/learn/cheapest-places-to-live-in-the-us [23:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.quickenloans.com | The Cheapest Places To Live In The US | Quicken Loans [23:01] Librarian Nah, that's just you being a pathological liar. Giving *with no strings attached* and giving *to fulfill your half of a transaction* are among the ways people can give/take ethically. [23:02] Librarian The only reason I leaped to the conclusion that you meant robbing and stealing is because you've worked very, very hard to demonstrate and provide copious evidence that you suffer from severe psychopathy. That's all. [23:02] Librarian If I were having this conversation with a rational, honest person, I probably wouldn't have asked that question. [23:03] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 17.20 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 51.40 swarm size (avg): 287.74 [23:03] Librarian But this is you, immibis, pathologocial liar and psychopath, that's here in this channel right now, and you know very well that I'm not the only person who harbors such suspicions about you. Hell, you even told me that your own family and friends don't want you living with them. :D [23:04] immibis Would you be happy for 50 family members and friends to live with you in your home? [23:05] Librarian No. But I *am* happy for the number of family and friends that I *already do* live with. :) [23:06] Librarian They enrich my life and tell me daily that they love me. It's pretty cool. [23:06] immibis Could more family or friends choose to live with you? [23:06] Librarian You should seek help for your psychopathy to see if you can experience that kind of happiness too. [23:10] techrights-news Having just surveyed the local maps, it turned out we've lived in 2 of the greenest areas in central #manchester (green in the forestry sense). It pays off esp. in summer. https://www.manchester.gov.uk/directory_record/89202/clayton_vale/category/301/all_parks_playgrounds_and_open_spaces [23:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.manchester.gov.uk | Parks and open spaces - Clayton Vale | Manchester City Council [23:13] techrights-news This Web site died not too long after its chief/founder had met and did a photo with http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Antnio_Campinos #ipwatch did cover #epo abuses prior to it https://www.ip-watch.org/2017/01/09/expensive-medicines-increase-pressure/ [23:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Antnio Campinos - Techrights [23:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ip-watch.org | Expensive Medicines Increase The Pressure - Intellectual Property Watch [23:14] immibis Could more family or friends choose to live with you? [23:14] techrights-news #epo is so corrupt that it attacks/bribes its critics. Same thing #microsoft and #billgates do, so no wonder they're in bed together: http://techrights.org/2021/03/22/epoleaks-report-march-2021-finale/ [23:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law Summing Up: EPO Administrative Council Still Asleep at the Wheel | Techrights [23:15] techrights-news Like #england celebrating #football while #covid19 cases soar, #france does this: https://www.sbsun.com/2021/07/14/still-battling-covid-france-celebrates-bastille-day/ see http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/07/11/covid-surge/ [23:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sbsun.com | Still battling COVID, France celebrates Bastille Day San Bernardino Sun [23:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Filling Up Wembley When Over 200,000 Brits Contract COVID-19 Every Week Sends the Wrong Message About Public Safety [23:17] techrights-news Some people still say stuff like, "lockdowns have killed many people too"... albeit that's akin to saying that some people go to the hospital to get something checked up and then pick some other disease (while there). Does that mean hospitals should just be avoided? [23:18] techrights-news Redefining granularity of "speak" (these people can express emotion in a number of other and expressive ways) https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/14/health/speech-brain-implant-computer.html [23:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Tapping into the Brain to Help a Paralyzed Man Speak - The New York Times [23:19] techrights-news Report: 83% of #UK software engineers suffer burnout, #COVID19 made it worse The Register https://www.theregister.com/2021/07/14/uk_developer_burnout/ #theregister | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/07/14/#latest [23:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Report: 83% of UK software engineers suffer burnout, COVID-19 made it worse The Register [23:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [23:20] techrights-news #ibm spamming? https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bPGM4Ca#replies [23:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | IBM 2nd quarter: Insiders news - post regarding IBM layoffs [23:28] Librarian Yep, there are a few who could. [23:29] Librarian Anyway, have fun dodging requests for evidence of my advocating for socialism. Hitchens's Razor obtains. I'm off to meet up with some friends now, some of whom would be welcome to move into my house with me. [23:29] Librarian Best wishes in learning to deal with your psychopathy! [23:30] techrights-news How to detect that patent quality has collapsed (in pursuit of other goals) https://www.natlawreview.com/article/chinese-invention-patent-grants-63-may-2021-yoy [23:30] immibis How many? [23:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.natlawreview.com | CNIPA Year-to-Date Invention Patent Grants up 62.4% Year over Year [23:32] techrights-news Third and fourth shots coming, though half the British population did not receive two shots (yet) https://pink.pharmaintelligence.informa.com/PS144573/Coronavirus-Notebook-Vaccine-Safety-Study-Kicks-Off-In-UK-Govt-Plans-Booster-Vaccination-For-Most-Vulnerable [23:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://pink.pharmaintelligence.informa.com/PS144573/Coronavirus-Notebook-Vaccine-Safety-Study-Kicks-Off-In-UK-Govt-Plans-Booster-Vaccination-For-Most-Vulnerable ) [23:34] schestowitz Vaccination works. Distancing works too. Which one to choose depends partly on how you live your life and the efficacy of each pertinent vaccine (for most its still to be determined, in COVIDs context in particular, because its a moving target) Third and fourth shots coming, though half the British population did not receive two shots (yet) [23:34] *techrights-news has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:34] *techrights-news (~techrights-news@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [23:37] techrights-news #uspto doing fake "tech" https://www.uspto.gov/patents/basics/international-protection/electronic-priority-document-exchange-pdx like punishing people who are not #microsoft customers https://www.uspto.gov/patents/basics/international-protection/electronic-priority-document-exchange-pdx [23:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.uspto.gov | Electronic Priority Document Exchange (PDX) Program | USPTO [23:38] techrights-news #uspto doing fake tech https://www.uspto.gov/patents/basics/international-protection/electronic-priority-document-exchange-pdx like punishing people who are not #microsoft customers http://techrights.org/2021/05/25/microsoft-uspto/ [23:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | USPTO Promotes Microsoft Monopoly and Proprietary Software (Updatedx2) | Techrights [23:39] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@nphkfn4e9x4v2.irc) has joined #techrights [23:39] techrights-news "The UK REACT-1 study has shown a threefold reduction in COVID-19 infections in double-vaccinated adults." https://pink.pharmaintelligence.informa.com/PS144603/Coronavirus-Notebook-WHO-Backs-Actemra--Kevzara-In-COVID19-German-Body-Says-Remdesivir-Has-Considerable-Added-Benefit [23:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://pink.pharmaintelligence.informa.com/PS144603/Coronavirus-Notebook-WHO-Backs-Actemra--Kevzara-In-COVID19-German-Body-Says-Remdesivir-Has-Considerable-Added-Benefit ) [23:43] techrights-news It is widely known by now, based on extensive evidence, that the Enlarged Board of Appeal of the EPO is rigged, but this corrupt 'law' firm (lawsuits won against them) doesn't care. All about money. #marksclerk backing #EPO #corruption https://www.marks-clerk.com/insights/doubled-down-enlarged-board-of-appeal-decision-g-4-19-on-double-patenting/ [23:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.marks-clerk.com | Doubled down: Enlarged Board of Appeal decision G 4/19 on Double Patenting [23:45] techrights-news When they use the buzzword #MedTech they typically mean unlawful #softwarepatents https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1091042/ip-analytics-medtech #swpats http://techrights.org/2019/04/08/software-as-a-medical-device-samd-like-medtech-at-the-epo-just-another-dodge-for-illegitimate-software-patents/ [23:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | IP Analytics MedTech - Intellectual Property - UK [23:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Software as a Medical Device (SaMD) Like MedTech at the EPO Just Another Dodge for Illegitimate Software Patents | Techrights [23:47] techrights-news FOSS Patents: Serial assertions of the same #patent claims in the #WDTX court-as-for-profit-corporation against multiple defendants: judicial economy weighs against venue transfer http://www.fosspatents.com/2021/07/serial-assertions-of-same-patent-claims.html by @fosspatents [23:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: Serial assertions of the same patent claims in the Western District of Texas against multiple defendants: judicial economy weighs against venue transfer [23:49] techrights-news #EPO granting bogus #softwarepatents again https://www.streetinsider.com/Accesswire/Network-1+Expands+Its+Foreign+M2MIoT+Patent+Portfolio+With+Three+New+Granted+Patents/18677763.html #swpats [23:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.streetinsider.com | Network-1 Expands Its Foreign M2M/IoT Patent Portfolio With Three New Granted Patents [23:56] *immibis (~immibis@bk3tq25u42a74.irc) has joined #techrights [23:58] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:58] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:59] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights