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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Looks like our application is going to be denied.Oct 14 00:04
DaemonFC[m]They said they couldn't verify Mandy's Social Security number.Oct 14 00:04
DaemonFC[m]I asked her to run it again without his middle name.Oct 14 00:04
DaemonFC[m]We've been having some problems with the credit bureaus.Oct 14 00:04
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schestowitzSSN?Oct 14 00:14
schestowitzisn't that for citizens only?Oct 14 00:14
schestowitz(I heard stories about Home Office here)Oct 14 00:15
schestowitz(very unprofessional, minimally trained, you could just as well be dealing with some Trump voter who believes in "white genocide" and hates gays... and now assesses your application, looking for shallow excuses like mere technicalities to reject)Oct 14 00:16
schestowitz(they also mock the applicants behind closed doors... like NSA 'analysts' do to subjects they spy on, pre-conditioning them to reject based on nonsensical things)Oct 14 00:17
kingoffrance^Oct 14 00:21
kingoffranceit makes it easier to justify things if they dehumanize someoneOct 14 00:21
kingoffrancethen they deserve whatever is coming to themOct 14 00:22
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schestowitza lawyer told meOct 14 00:37
schestowitzhe had worked thereOct 14 00:37
schestowitzthey stigmatise and mock applicantsOct 14 00:37
schestowitzand pass it aroundOct 14 00:37
schestowitzand then they have no chance, no matter whatOct 14 00:37
schestowitzthey become the 'office joke'Oct 14 00:37
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Mandy just got approved for two more credit cards.Oct 14 00:54
DaemonFC[m]He's adding me as an authorized user. I told him he can just hang onto my cards if he wants.Oct 14 00:54
DaemonFC[m]He's dragging my credit score back up post-bankruptcy by letting me hitch a ride.Oct 14 00:54
DaemonFC[m]I might actually be back up in the 700s again before the year is out.Oct 14 00:55
schestowitzoh wow, more debtOct 14 00:55
schestowitzyay, debtOct 14 00:55
schestowitz"approved"Oct 14 00:55
DaemonFC[m]Well, no.Oct 14 00:55
schestowitz"you're approved for us to steal from you"Oct 14 00:55
DaemonFC[m]Just need to get my credit rating up so that I can get an apartment that's not a complete dump.Oct 14 00:55
DaemonFC[m]If you only make small purchases and pay it off right away it just raises your score and then everyone loves you again.Oct 14 00:56
schestowitzmaybe you can buy of "MORISOL's"Oct 14 00:56
schestowitz*offOct 14 00:56
schestowitzwhen they're our on the street/blockOct 14 00:56
schestowitz*outOct 14 00:56
schestowitz Another round of complete lock-downs in order? https://gazette.com/ap/international/dutch-order-bars-restaurants-closed-over-pandemic-fears/article_30a2a8aa-9ce4-51b0-b1cc-fb5065ab6517.htmlOct 14 01:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dutch order bars, restaurants closed over pandemic fears | Business | gazette.comOct 14 01:00
DaemonFC[m]MARISOL (LOL)Oct 14 01:03
DaemonFC[m]MARISOL is always good for a LOLOct 14 01:03
DaemonFC[m]"INGRATA! INGRATA! JUST WAIT! WAIT FOR YOUR LAWSUIT!"Oct 14 01:03
schestowitz>>>> first 15 seconds of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ9fXuR6g_YOct 14 01:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The IBM Master the Mainframe World Championship - YouTubeOct 14 01:12
schestowitz>>>>Oct 14 01:12
schestowitz>>> It doesn't make any sense.  Do you want just the lead-in?  Or how muchOct 14 01:12
schestowitz>>> of her intro do you also want to include or exclude?Oct 14 01:12
schestowitz>>Oct 14 01:12
schestowitz>> It's the word "master" we needOct 14 01:12
schestowitz>>Oct 14 01:12
schestowitz>>Oct 14 01:12
schestowitz> Ok.  The title shot and the dubbing with the word "master" is there.Oct 14 01:12
schestowitz> Basically there are people trolling the public over words while theirOct 14 01:12
schestowitz> actions are causing damage which goes unnoticed due to the distraction.Oct 14 01:12
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: INGRATA! WAIT FOR YOUR LOLSUIT!Oct 14 01:13
schestowitzlol-suit?Oct 14 01:14
schestowitzMARY-LOL?Oct 14 01:14
schestowitzMARY-LOLLY-POP?Oct 14 01:14
DaemonFC[m]If she sues him I'll be laughing.Oct 14 01:14
schestowitzshe cannotOct 14 01:15
schestowitzit would be thrown out by the lawyerOct 14 01:15
schestowitzwho can laugh it offOct 14 01:15
schestowitzsuing a bother for what? there's no debtOct 14 01:15
schestowitznothing on paper, eitherOct 14 01:15
DaemonFC[m]Even if she could, by the time we go to court the bank account will be drained and I'll get my attorney on the phone to file bankruptcy on it.Oct 14 01:15
schestowitzit's just blackmail tacticsOct 14 01:15
schestowitzagainst one's own familtyOct 14 01:15
DaemonFC[m]Pretty much, yeah.Oct 14 01:15
schestowitz*familyOct 14 01:15
DaemonFC[m]She tricked him into coming over here.Oct 14 01:15
DaemonFC[m]I told him "You really shouldn't have come here.".Oct 14 01:16
DaemonFC[m]I don't mean it like "Oh, I don't want to be married to you.".Oct 14 01:16
DaemonFC[m]I meant it as "Your sister is pure evil and this country has problems that she didn't tell you about.".Oct 14 01:16
schestowitztondo is no betterOct 14 01:28
schestowitzand they have their own highly corrupt 'strongman' thereOct 14 01:29
schestowitzanother Orange AllyOct 14 01:29
DaemonFC[m]Well, I was talking to the hotel manager.Oct 14 01:30
DaemonFC[m]She said it must be hard dealing with immigration with "you know who" in office.Oct 14 01:30
DaemonFC[m]I said, "Hopefully not much longer. Remember to go vote.".Oct 14 01:31
DaemonFC[m]Have to kick him and his allies out on their asses.Oct 14 01:32
DaemonFC[m]People don't pay enough attention to Congress, and they should.Oct 14 01:32
DaemonFC[m]He can't totally bypass them. Losing the House was a big setback, but it's the Senate. We have to get the Senate.Oct 14 01:32
DaemonFC[m]Have them spend 4 years sitting on his nominees until his next term expires, if nothing else.Oct 14 01:32
DaemonFC[m]Let the court seats go unfilled. Fill them all at once next president.Oct 14 01:33
DaemonFC[m]Let openings in the bureaucracy widen until they can't do much. Oct 14 01:33
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Plus, if nothing else, I can just charge the hotel bill to the cards and pay them right back off and undo some of that increase with credit card points.Oct 14 01:36
DaemonFC[m]Oh sweet.Oct 14 01:39
DaemonFC[m]Capital One never said that hotels get double points on the Walmart card.Oct 14 01:39
DaemonFC[m]:)Oct 14 01:39
DaemonFC[m]I remember Jorge saying that I could use two cards if I wanted to on the monthly rate.Oct 14 01:42
DaemonFC[m]If I charge $500 to the Capital One Walmart, that would max out the card, then I just wait for it to post and pay it right back, and then I get $10 in points for that part each month. Then put $500 on the Discover and get 1% back right away and 1% at the end of the first 12 months. Then pay the remainder in cash.Oct 14 01:44
DaemonFC[m]Should be good for $20 in credit card points.Oct 14 01:44
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DaemonFC[m]Anyway, that would sneak $20 a month back from them That undoes 1/7th of the increase. Oct 14 01:47
DaemonFC[m]Fight back against it by sneaking some of it through cashback credit cards.Oct 14 01:48
DaemonFC[m]I'm sure Jorge doesn't care. Oct 14 01:48
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: That's a tank of gas every month. It's not nothing.Oct 14 01:48
DaemonFC[m]Anyway, Experian has this credit card matching thing where they just ask banks what their approval requirements are.Oct 14 01:50
DaemonFC[m]They get commissions for steering you to the cards, you don't waste hard inquiries asking for cards you'll never get. Oct 14 01:50
DaemonFC[m]This should mean we both have 4 credit card accounts showing Paid As Agreed soon.Oct 14 01:51
DaemonFC[m]As those age, it drags your score up.Oct 14 01:51
DaemonFC[m]Having the 3 Authorized User ones showing good inflates my score and increases the odds Discover converts me to an unsecured card in 8 months and hands my deposit back.Oct 14 01:52
DaemonFC[m]Then having low utilization helps the score stay as high as possible.Oct 14 01:52
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Bootstrapping.Oct 14 01:52
DaemonFC[m]Nobody legitimate wants to talk to you after bankruptcy, and if they do you're going to pay them a lot of your own money to put something good on your report.Oct 14 01:53
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DaemonFC[m]But with Mandy, I can avoid a lot of these stupid annual fee bankruptcy cards.Oct 14 01:53
DaemonFC[m]Just get right down to building credit. Oct 14 01:53
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DaemonFC[m]It normally costs so much to get yourself back to a credit score where landlords will talk to you that it's like a 2 year process and you'll end up paying $500 or so on fake loans that you'll never get back. It's awful.Oct 14 01:54
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Ariadnehttps://portal.msrc.microsoft.com/en-US/security-guidance/advisory/CVE-2020-16898Oct 14 07:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-portal.msrc.microsoft.com | Oct 14 07:50
AriadnelolzOct 14 07:50
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schestowitz#deleteWindows #deleteMicrosoft https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2020/10/14/windows-ping-of-death-bug-revealed-patch-now/  http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143190#comment-26702        patching will NOT remove the back doors. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSAOct 14 07:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nakedsecurity.sophos.com | Windows “Ping of Death” bug revealed – patch now! – Naked SecurityOct 14 07:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux MachinesOct 14 07:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - TechrightsOct 14 07:52
schestowitzwinnuke is backOct 14 07:52
DaemonFC[m]If I strike out with this other guy, I'm going back to paying monthly.Oct 14 07:55
DaemonFC[m]I'll just see where we are in another year.Oct 14 07:55
schestowitz"don't [win]nuke me, bro!"Oct 14 07:56
DaemonFC[m]The lawyer we spoke with said immigration doesn't like hotels, but both of our licenses say "apartment" on them.Oct 14 07:56
DaemonFC[m]Oh yeah, port nuking.Oct 14 07:56
DaemonFC[m]LOLOct 14 07:56
DaemonFC[m]Windows 98 all over again.Oct 14 07:57
schestowitzwhat does hotel have to do with immigration? Requirements on financial grounds?Oct 14 07:57
DaemonFC[m]They like "stability".Oct 14 07:57
schestowitzif he has no criminal record, doesn't become a burden on the system so to speak, then why not?Oct 14 07:57
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schestowitzwaitOct 14 07:57
DaemonFC[m]Apparently, a month to month lease is so much better. Retarded, right?Oct 14 07:57
schestowitzdidn't win95 have that too?Oct 14 07:57
schestowitzI seem to recall win95 having lots of win-nuking toolsOct 14 07:57
schestowitzwe used to do that to each other as kidsOct 14 07:58
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Yeah, 95 and 98. Windows Me shipped with the patched component.Oct 14 07:58
DaemonFC[m]Maybe 98 SE too, dunno.Oct 14 07:58
schestowitzyou could get the mate's ip address using instant messaging for sniffingOct 14 07:58
DaemonFC[m]Or on IRC.Oct 14 07:58
schestowitzI was like 13 at the timeOct 14 07:58
schestowitzsorry, 14Oct 14 07:58
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: That's why I ran ZoneAlarm.Oct 14 07:59
schestowitzbut we could use things to first get the friend's ip, then nukeOct 14 07:59
schestowitz"and... he's gone...."Oct 14 07:59
DaemonFC[m]It added a software firewall to Windows 9x.Oct 14 07:59
schestowitzIIRC, there were then also tools to block the nukes...Oct 14 07:59
schestowitztook microsoft ages to sort this outOct 14 07:59
DaemonFC[m]Yes, turning off NetBIOS did it, yeah?Oct 14 07:59
DaemonFC[m]I always turned off NetBIOS.Oct 14 08:00
schestowitz"wait 25 years... we'll restore this feature" -MicrosoftOct 14 08:00
DaemonFC[m]I wasn't using it. Having things listening on open ports that you don't use is dumb.Oct 14 08:00
schestowitzit was vulnerable by defaultOct 14 08:01
schestowitzand they didn't do remote patching back thenOct 14 08:01
schestowitzthough I suppose it made it easier for the state to take over remotelyOct 14 08:01
schestowitzwithout even an illusion of remedies... except "buy the next version"Oct 14 08:02
schestowitzwin98 was the last windows I hadOct 14 08:02
schestowitzPrior to win 3.1 I used some other thingsOct 14 08:02
schestowitzwin98 coped ok with low ramOct 14 08:02
schestowitz a laptop with 32 of ram could run it mostly okOct 14 08:03
schestowitzat this moment Konversation alone takes 38 MB of RAMOct 14 08:03
schestowitzkde systemmonitor 15 mbOct 14 08:04
schestowitzjust for an "app" that display a list of processes, interactivelyOct 14 08:04
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DaemonFC[m]Yeah, large memory is cheap now, so nobody cares.Oct 14 08:04
schestowitzmaybe qt and stack malloc'ed partly to blame thereOct 14 08:05
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schestowitzbtw, that part of kde, written in c++ last I checked, used to be maintained by a friend of mine from uniOct 14 08:13
schestowitzjohn tapsell, used to work for nokia at one point. lost touch of what he does these days..Oct 14 08:14
schestowitzthey no longer seem to call it ksysmonitor or whateverOct 14 08:14
schestowitzI wonder if they wrote a new one in parallelOct 14 08:15
schestowitzit is definitely rebranded ("system activity")Oct 14 08:15
schestowitzahOct 14 08:15
schestowitzok, ksysguard is differentOct 14 08:15
schestowitzit's still thereOct 14 08:15
schestowitzbut not by default, maybe it was considered "too advanced" or "confusing"Oct 14 08:16
schestowitzand it was renamed "System Monitor"Oct 14 08:16
DaemonFC[m]I'm lucky I found this place.Oct 14 08:18
DaemonFC[m]It's a dump, but $39.99 a night and no tax at the monthly rate. You could do worse. Oct 14 08:18
schestowitzsounds expensiveOct 14 08:18
schestowitzdon't take offenseOct 14 08:18
DaemonFC[m]I'm just seeing what's out there. It seems like landlords are skittish.Oct 14 08:19
schestowitzdoes that include bills (utility/water+electric)Oct 14 08:19
schestowitz?Oct 14 08:19
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, cable, wifi, electric, water.Oct 14 08:19
DaemonFC[m]They're fine with the cats.Oct 14 08:19
schestowitzso, $1200 a monthOct 14 08:19
schestowitzgive or takeOct 14 08:19
schestowitzthat's expensiveOct 14 08:19
DaemonFC[m]Pretty much, yeah.Oct 14 08:20
schestowitzeven by the standards of good IL areasOct 14 08:20
DaemonFC[m]It is, but the nice extended stays are about $1,800 or so.Oct 14 08:20
schestowitzok, maybe, as a temporary placeOct 14 08:20
DaemonFC[m]It was $34.99 a night, but then they upped it on us.Oct 14 08:20
schestowitzotherwise lots of deposits down the drain, so to speak... you can get very nice apartments for that price point here.... even in City CenterOct 14 08:20
DaemonFC[m]The district manager undid the manager's decision to freeze it.Oct 14 08:20
schestowitzat least you can shower all day, lolOct 14 08:21
schestowitzflat feeOct 14 08:21
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Eh, a studio seems to go for about 700-800 here, but then they don't necessarily pay your electric.Oct 14 08:21
schestowitzlaptops don't cost much to runOct 14 08:22
DaemonFC[m]$50 a month for wifi probably.Oct 14 08:22
schestowitzand they provide some heat, tooOct 14 08:22
DaemonFC[m]"cat rent"Oct 14 08:22
schestowitzwe have 5 laptops running here,  4 external screensOct 14 08:22
DaemonFC[m]Some of these places charge $15 a month for cat rent.Oct 14 08:22
schestowitzwhen you add it all up it's like a mini heaterOct 14 08:22
schestowitzso the price of power bills in an apartment would not exceed $100 for youOct 14 08:23
schestowitzand water is even cheaperOct 14 08:23
schestowitzunless you have a big garden or somethingOct 14 08:23
schestowitzPelosi and GOP seem in agreement in letting lots of people go homelessOct 14 08:24
schestowitzso shtf soonOct 14 08:24
schestowitzmore broken glasses where you areOct 14 08:24
schestowitz> On 10/14/20 9:10 AM, Roy Schestowitz wrote:Oct 14 08:27
schestowitz>> http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Bill_Gates_DepositionOct 14 08:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bill Gates Deposition - TechrightsOct 14 08:27
schestowitz>>Oct 14 08:27
schestowitz> Awesome.  Now it "easy" to refer back to the page and line number.Oct 14 08:27
schestowitz> Probably it will be necessary to keep driving it home that these areOct 14 08:27
schestowitz> more relevant today than back in the 1990s because the behavior of himOct 14 08:28
schestowitz> and M$ is unchanged.Oct 14 08:28
schestowitzWork in progress by fig:Oct 14 08:28
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Special:RecentChangesOct 14 08:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Recent changes - TechrightsOct 14 08:28
DaemonFC[m]It usually cost me about $30 a month for electric in the months without heat or air conditioning.Oct 14 08:28
DaemonFC[m]But I keep it like the morgue in here in the summer time.Oct 14 08:28
DaemonFC[m]It probably costs them about $100 a month in electric during the summer for me and probably at least that in the winter. Oct 14 08:30
DaemonFC[m]Not having to open up a gigantic electric and internet bill and pay them separately is kind of nice.Oct 14 08:30
schestowitzyou could clothe betterOct 14 08:32
schestowitznot sure about MI winterOct 14 08:32
schestowitziirc, you're in northernOct 14 08:32
schestowitzso near canadaOct 14 08:32
DaemonFC[m]Then again, the electric might be more now.Oct 14 08:32
DaemonFC[m]I'm making meals at home a lot.Oct 14 08:32
schestowitzfor 1 or 2 people it's less bang for the buck than family of 5Oct 14 08:32
schestowitzor you could partition one roomOct 14 08:32
DaemonFC[m]Slow cooker/Instant Pot is probably good for another $5-10 in electric a month.Oct 14 08:33
schestowitzmeals don't take long to preapreOct 14 08:33
schestowitzwashing machine is longerOct 14 08:33
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I told mom there's people here that just get a two bed room and partition it.Oct 14 08:33
schestowitzhours and high mw/hOct 14 08:33
DaemonFC[m]4 people living in the room.Oct 14 08:33
schestowitzgood for heating billsOct 14 08:33
schestowitzhttp://schestowitz.com/royrianne/gallery/index.php/Working-From-Home-Lock-DownOct 14 08:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Working From Home (Lock-Down)Oct 14 08:34
schestowitzmy office is in a two-room-combinedOct 14 08:34
schestowitzand it's the same room as rianne's pcsOct 14 08:34
schestowitzit's cold outside itOct 14 08:34
schestowitzso for power bills you should never pay $100Oct 14 08:35
schestowitzunless you have some fetish like high mw/h appliances, as some doOct 14 08:35
schestowitzlike running servers at the basementOct 14 08:35
schestowitzor running the whole house 24/7 like it's a greenhouseOct 14 08:36
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schestowitziirc, on some mode a laptop would be ok with 20 mw/h or lessOct 14 08:36
schestowitzand CRTs have all died hereOct 14 08:36
schestowitzwe disposed of the last one back in June this yearOct 14 08:36
schestowitzthe council took it, it's really heavy, like 30kgOct 14 08:37
schestowitzi think they can take like 100mw/h depending on their side; otoh they give lots of heat if you want that perk in winterOct 14 08:37
schestowitzwould be nice to have: some mechanism that coverts energy from unused shower water and laundry water/vapor to warn up a home... like some buildings with a datacenter in them funnel around the excess heat Oct 14 08:38
schestowitz*warm upOct 14 08:39
schestowitzWhen I worked at MCC (2002-2006) the datacentre was used to heat up the whole building in winter, only good shaft systems were neededOct 14 08:39
schestowitzif you can lower heating bills by $50 a month, that's already $600 a year or enough to buy a simple car in a whole decade's worthOct 14 08:40
schestowitzhttp://schestowitz.com/royrianne/gallery/index.php/Working-From-Home-Lock-Down/20200417_171539Oct 14 08:43
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/DAvallone/status/1315380834090708992Oct 14 09:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DAvallone: Dear Journalists: it is legal to add seats to the Supreme Court. It's been done before. It will be done again. Vio… https://t.co/ZZFrXQ5gOBOct 14 09:17
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/immigration-policy-changes-under-trump-1073343/Oct 14 10:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rollingstone.com | Why Trump's Immigration Policies Will Be So Hard to Undo - Rolling StoneOct 14 10:11
schestowitzthis is newOct 14 10:11
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Chaekyungthat feel when you come accross a creative commons licensed video that's interesting and worth re-posting but it's 640x360Oct 14 14:14
Chaekyungnot sure I want to botherOct 14 14:15
Chaekyungthat's such garbageOct 14 14:15
Chaekyungthe audio is fine, so there's that, but 640x360 like it's the 1980s, idkOct 14 14:15
smnthermesOr when it's .wmvOct 14 14:15
Chaekyungyeah that too, eeeew Oct 14 14:15
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schestowitzChaekyung: which one specifically?Oct 14 16:15
DaemonFC[m]I got ahold of the company's main office again.Oct 14 16:16
DaemonFC[m]She told me she was going to get ahold of the local office people and the owner of the company and get this whole application mess straightened out. Oct 14 16:16
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Chaekyungschestowitz: "IP and open source: can we get along? - Hana Oh" by the title it sounded like it was worthwhile https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtGneufCj7MH but after watching it .. I decided not to post that crap. It has absolutely zero information. Oct 14 17:34
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ChaekyungI thought she was going to actually talk about.. well, anything other than explaining what she thinks "open source" and "open licenses" are. It's got zero info. Oct 14 17:34
schestowitzI call it "AYE PEE"Oct 14 17:35
schestowitzopen means open for businessOct 14 17:36
schestowitzthe term open just means openwashing nowOct 14 17:36
schestowitzwe should ridicule if not condemn itOct 14 17:36
schestowitzbecause we know what concepts it serves to distract from, reshaping the debatesOct 14 17:36
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DaemonFC[m]I posted a review of that apartment complex after they denied us.Oct 14 19:02
DaemonFC[m]--Oct 14 19:02
*DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/CVOzSCMAmNiPEhowZmhSfuaY/message.txt >Oct 14 19:02
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schestowitzdenied on what basis?Oct 14 19:03
schestowitzfinancial? criminal record? immigration status? age?Oct 14 19:03
schestowitziirc, you are not currently employed but then again many aren't. and more applied or will apply for bankruptcy tooOct 14 19:04
schestowitzso some landlords decided they'd rather have empty apartments than particular types in themOct 14 19:04
DaemonFC[m]All kinds, including that I showed up to say anything about it.Oct 14 19:04
schestowitztell em Mandy can cook adobo for the whole building's tenants :-)Oct 14 19:05
schestowitzmayeb they tripped you up by intentionOct 14 19:07
schestowitzto deflect and make it seem like your own faultOct 14 19:07
schestowitzalways a possibilityOct 14 19:07
schestowitzjust read the reviewOct 14 19:07
schestowitz[22:07] <schestowitz> DaemonFC[m]: then this http://techrights.org/2020/10/13/electoral-vote-dot-com-microsoft-spam/Oct 14 19:07
schestowitz[22:07] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- techrights.org | Response to “Microsoft Shuts Down a Hacking [sic] Operation” | TechrightsOct 14 19:07
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schestowitz> Hi. Thanks for the previous info about clearlydefined. Very interesting!Oct 14 19:16
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DaemonFC[m]<schestowitz "so some landlords decided they'd"> I have an income. It's verifiable.Oct 14 20:29
DaemonFC[m]I filed a complaint with the Illinois Attorney General about this.Oct 14 20:29
DaemonFC[m]We'll see where that goes.Oct 14 20:29
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DaemonFC[m]The lady was extremely rude. She goes "Well, we can't evict anyone right now if they just stop paying us.".Oct 14 20:31
schestowitztrueOct 14 20:31
DaemonFC[m]I said, "Call the hotel. We've been paying them for a year and a half and they've never had any trouble. If you stop paying, they get the police and escort you out. But we've been paying them on time every month. Call them."Oct 14 20:31
DaemonFC[m]She said it was suspicious that I had been living in a hotel for so long.Oct 14 20:32
DaemonFC[m]I was like "Lots of people do and some people that do it are rich."Oct 14 20:32
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: These corporate type landlords are the absolute worst.Oct 14 20:34
DaemonFC[m]Nobody's responsible for anything. Terrible attitude. Oct 14 20:34
DaemonFC[m]They actually sent the goddamned maintenance man to chase me off the property for asking them to fix some paperwork errors.Oct 14 20:34
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Tweaked it a bit.Oct 14 20:44
DaemonFC[m]"When I informed Ericka's boss of the FACT Act she said she'd never heard of it and that it was (apparently) a major red flag that I was exercising a legal right passed by Congress so that you know what a credit report said about you and have a chance to respond to non-factual information and errors.Oct 14 20:44
DaemonFC[m](I would counter that if your landlord is such a scumbag that they don't even want you to know about the credit reporting laws, that's a major red flag.)"Oct 14 20:44
DaemonFC[m]Well, to say nothing about sending the groundskeeper out to shout you off the property in Terrorist. Oct 14 20:45
DaemonFC[m]"When I called him again to see if we could still work something out, he wouldn't let me get a word in kept shouting "YOU INTIMIDATE THEM YOU INTIMIDATE THEM!!! LEAVE PROPERTY NOW!", followed by the maintenance guy pulling up in a truck and.....trying to intimidate me until I left. 1/2 English, 1/2 Arabic. 100% with no COVID-19 face mask."Oct 14 20:48
DaemonFC[m]Better: "intimidating me until I left. 1/2 English, 1/2 Arabic. 100% with no COVID-19 face mask. Gross."Oct 14 20:52
schestowitzsounds racistOct 14 20:55
schestowitzno reason to invoke "arabic"Oct 14 20:55
schestowitzfocus on the maskOct 14 20:55
schestowitzarabic is not a religionOct 14 20:56
schestowitzso there's a racist connotation thereOct 14 20:56
schestowitzand if it wasn't half arab, then it's OK?Oct 14 20:56
schestowitzfocus on behaviour like refusal to wear maskOct 14 20:56
schestowitzlikely flouting MI rulesOct 14 20:56
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Chaekyung?Oct 14 21:08
Chaekyungthe way I read that was that he was talking 50% arabic and 50% englishOct 14 21:08
schestowitzmaybe I need to read the full context..Oct 14 21:10
schestowitz2020: the people's year of sanity lossOct 14 21:11
schestowitzwhen people with money at hand (still) and a job can barely find where to loseOct 14 21:12
schestowitz*liveOct 14 21:12
schestowitzthis is saddeningOct 14 21:12
schestowitzimagine what it's like to people who actually lost their job and have no income Oct 14 21:12
schestowitztoday at the gym I saw some tv segments (internet-streamed)Oct 14 21:12
schestowitzit showed recent uni graduateOct 14 21:12
schestowitzit's really hopeless for themOct 14 21:13
schestowitzand the state cannot really do anything to help themOct 14 21:13
schestowitzthey cannot be trained either, as physical contact is discouragedOct 14 21:13
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XRevan86https://t.me/RoadTrafficAccidents/6404 o_0 (~NSFW)Oct 14 21:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-t.me | Telegram: Contact @RoadTrafficAccidentsOct 14 21:20
schestowitzChaekyung: do you want me to introduce people to your site?Oct 14 21:24
schestowitzI work on a long post, "Health Report of Linux News Sites in 2020 (a Pandemic Year)    "Oct 14 21:25
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: "When I called him again to see if we could still work something out, he wouldn't let me get a word in and kept shouting "YOU INTIMIDATE THEM YOU INTIMIDATE THEM!!! LEAVE PROPERTY NOW!", followed by the maintenance guy pulling up in a truck and.... intimidating me until I left.  Shouting at me with no COVID-19 face mask. Gross."Oct 14 22:00
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, that does sound better.Oct 14 22:00
schestowitzdon't give them reason to talk you down as "racist"Oct 14 22:01
schestowitzit would distract from a legit grievanceOct 14 22:01
schestowitzand make you seem like it was a racial gripe all alongOct 14 22:01
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: can you read something with me?Oct 14 22:01
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, now I might just have to wear a face mask all the time while Mandy is at home to make sure I don't infect him if I start to get sick.Oct 14 22:03
schestowitzwe might move back to lockdown soonOct 14 22:04
schestowitzno gym, no eateriesOct 14 22:04
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2020/10/14/health-report-linux-news-sites/ DaemonFC[m] <<< quicOct 14 22:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Health Report of GNU and Linux News Sites in 2020 (a Pandemic Year) | TechrightsOct 14 22:04
DaemonFC[m]Well, schestowitz I'm not trying to be racist so much as...Oct 14 22:09
DaemonFC[m]I may have to sleep in a face mask laying in reverse on the bed to try to avoid infecting my husband because some guy decided that he'd get all up in my shit and ranting at me in a language that I don't even understandOct 14 22:09
schestowitzI found many typos in first passOct 14 22:12
schestowitzif you share a bed, a mask might be insufficientOct 14 22:13
schestowitzwithout going into the logistics of itOct 14 22:13
schestowitz[21:51] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊): ● NEWS ● #CommonDreams #covid19 ☞ After Negative Result From Unreliable Covid Test, Trump Falsely Tells Florida Crowd He's "Immune" and Can "Kiss Everyone" With No Consequences https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/10/13/after-negative-result-unreliable-c... [https://pleroma.site/objects/9819f609-492a-4dd7-9575-fe380adb6f13]Oct 14 22:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | All News Articles for 2020-10-13 | Common DreamsOct 14 22:13
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schestowitzyour country is run by a psychoOct 14 22:13
schestowitztoday will be another 1000 people deadOct 14 22:15
schestowitzhe flattened the curve diagonallyOct 14 22:15
schestowitzand insists he did a great jobOct 14 22:16
schestowitzI'd be furious if was had national or even local leadership like thisOct 14 22:16
schestowitz>> After Negative Result From Unreliable Covid Test, Trump Falsely Tells Florida Crowd He's "Immune" and Can "Kiss Everyone" With No ConsequencesOct 14 22:20
schestowitzmaybe mandy should just sleep in the same bed with donald trumpOct 14 22:20
schestowitzit's not only safe for him to "Kiss Everyone" Oct 14 22:20
schestowitzhe's also known to be a "pussy grabber"Oct 14 22:20
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Chaekyungschestowitz: yes absolutelyOct 14 22:36
schestowitzChaekyung: too late, sort ofOct 14 22:40
schestowitzI was going to holler in that last postOct 14 22:40
schestowitz[22:04] <schestowitz> http://techrights.org/2020/10/14/health-report-linux-news-sites/ DaemonFC[m] <<< quicOct 14 22:41
schestowitzbecause your site is still quite active and from what I can see also accurateOct 14 22:41
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DaemonFC[m]They filed a police report about me going out there.Oct 14 22:44
DaemonFC[m]This isn't good.Oct 14 22:44
DaemonFC[m]I didn't do anything wrong.Oct 14 22:44
schestowitzwhat crime?Oct 14 22:45
schestowitzconfronting lies?Oct 14 22:45
schestowitzunless you threatened anyone..Oct 14 22:45
schestowitzpolice would be preconditioned to believe the accuser hereOct 14 22:46
schestowitzbecause of the pastOct 14 22:46
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: you can use your text (from above) to write to the police about what actually happenedOct 14 22:46
schestowitzmaybe it's the "tone-policing"-type BSOct 14 22:51
DaemonFC[m]Do you think this has legs or do you think the police are just going to drop it?Oct 14 22:51
schestowitzif you had no record, it's another storyOct 14 22:52
DaemonFC[m]Yeah.Oct 14 22:52
schestowitzbut no knife or somethingOct 14 22:52
schestowitzbut waitOct 14 22:53
DaemonFC[m]I've called my lawyer.Oct 14 22:53
schestowitzDID SHE KNOW YOU HAD A ReCORD?Oct 14 22:53
schestowitzfrom the application?Oct 14 22:53
DaemonFC[m]I'm not going to talk to the police without him there.Oct 14 22:53
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, she did.Oct 14 22:53
schestowitzif so, they're just looking for "revenge"Oct 14 22:53
schestowitzso tell them it's just presumptionsOct 14 22:53
schestowitzshe saw a record Oct 14 22:53
schestowitzand then interpreted critical speech as "threat"Oct 14 22:53
schestowitzvery typical with homeless peopleOct 14 22:54
schestowitzyou assume they're out to mug youOct 14 22:54
schestowitzbecause they smell and stuffOct 14 22:54
schestowitzbut in reality many are harmless and so malnourished they could barely harm anyone even if they attempted toOct 14 22:54
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: could be worseOct 14 22:59
schestowitzif you were black, speaking out/speaking up alone would be considered "violence" or "aggression" and you'd have the police called up on you... to shoot at you from a distance to "protect" themselvesOct 14 23:00
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: can you read something?Oct 14 23:01
schestowitzor too busy stressing out?Oct 14 23:01
schestowitzI reckon this is nothing, you just need to clarify to cops what actually happenedOct 14 23:01
schestowitzand the "revenge" element... like ex-g/f claiming she was sexually assaulted by the b/f who had broken up with herOct 14 23:02
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schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Arrington#BiographyOct 14 23:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Michael Arrington - WikipediaOct 14 23:03
schestowitz"In 2013, he was accused of physical abuse by an ex-girlfriend. Arrington sued the woman for defamation and she agreed to retract her accusations against him and apologize.[8]"Oct 14 23:03
schestowitzOne example of this operandiOct 14 23:03
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: being masked and head-shaved couldn't have helpedOct 14 23:05
schestowitzbut that's hardly the fault of a person who needs to adapt to biology and pandemicOct 14 23:05
schestowitzyou could bring that up tooOct 14 23:05
schestowitzstigmatising youOct 14 23:06
schestowitzand then claiming, like some scared cops, they're afraid of the victim's "blackness"Oct 14 23:06
schestowitzand therefore fired awauOct 14 23:06
schestowitzlike she fired away a spurious police report, wasting their timeOct 14 23:06
MinceREricka?Oct 14 23:16
MinceRhttps://i.redd.it/jrhpx6e3i6f21.jpgOct 14 23:16
schestowitzhttps://baywatch.fandom.com/wiki/Erika_EleniakOct 14 23:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baywatch.fandom.com | Erika Eleniak | Baywatch | FandomOct 14 23:17
MinceR:)Oct 14 23:17
MinceRBabewatchOct 14 23:17
schestowitzI liked her at the timeOct 14 23:22
schestowitzand I was barely even pubescent Oct 14 23:23
schestowitzTV really sucked at the time, and there was not much to watchOct 14 23:23
schestowitz[20:44] <DaemonFC[m]> "When I informed Ericka's boss of the FACT Act she said she'd never heard of it and that it was (apparently) a major red flag that I was exercising a legal right passed by Congress so that you know what a credit report said about you and have a chance to respond to non-factual information and errors.Oct 14 23:24
schestowitzwhen did they start adding the K to that firstname?Oct 14 23:24
schestowitzfast-forwarded Trump 2028... EriKKKaOct 14 23:24
schestowitz3  silent KsOct 14 23:24
MinceR:>Oct 14 23:24
schestowitzAriaOct 14 23:25
schestowitzlike AryanOct 14 23:25
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schestowitzShe was AryanOct 14 23:25
schestowitzArykkkan (silent k's)Oct 14 23:25
schestowitzThere's also Eryka iircOct 14 23:25
schestowitzbaduOct 14 23:25
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erykah_BaduOct 14 23:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Erykah Badu - WikipediaOct 14 23:26
schestowitzplus HOct 14 23:26
schestowitznowadays you can't spell names, too many variantsOct 14 23:26
schestowitzjon, john, lynsey, lindsay, cris, chris, mo, mu...Oct 14 23:27
schestowitzso they tell you the nameOct 14 23:27
schestowitzand you go, "how do YOU spell it?"Oct 14 23:27
schestowitzbecause of artistic parents that manipulate existing namesOct 14 23:28
schestowitzRyan also has variantsOct 14 23:29
schestowitzVladimir can be pronounced "Pussy", as in Pussy PutinOct 14 23:29
schestowitzhttps://meduza.io/en/news/2020/10/13/two-more-pussy-riot-members-arrested-over-rainbow-flag-protestsOct 14 23:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLEOct 14 23:30
schestowitzworse than ISIS flag?Oct 14 23:30
schestowitzWhile Putler flies flags associated with men who killed like 40 million in their own countryOct 14 23:31
schestowitzfarming instruments on china-like flag sans the starsOct 14 23:31
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