●● IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Monday, December 14, 2020 ●● ● Dec 14 [00:01] schestowitz lol [00:01] schestowitz "EPO Study Shows Fourth Industrial Revolution Tech is Growing at Record Rate The European Patent Office (EPO) issued a press release and " [00:01] schestowitz -Watchtroll [00:01] schestowitz fluff [00:01] schestowitz no mention of the strike [00:01] schestowitz which they misrepresent anyway [00:01] schestowitz making it look like staff is just "looking for a fight" [00:02] schestowitz not even explaining the basis of the strike [00:26] schestowitz anyone here good at thrasher remailers stuff? [00:26] schestowitz like, which ones are still online? Asking for EPO friends [00:41] DaemonFC[m] https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/13/politics/donald-trump-william-barr-pfizer-vaccine/index.html [00:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Donald Trump engages in self-sabotage ahead of historic vaccine rollout - CNNPolitics [00:41] DaemonFC[m] The rollout will be a disaster. [00:41] DaemonFC[m] For starters, we have no idea who has already had it and might be immune. [00:41] schestowitz CNN being anti-Trump as a religion [00:41] schestowitz the issue here is not Trump [00:41] DaemonFC[m] Secondly, it's so pervasive that over 90% of the residents and most of the staff in my grandmother's nursing home have it now. [00:41] schestowitz it might be the clinical trials [00:42] schestowitz but they make it all abourr Trump [00:42] DaemonFC[m] So at this point, who knows if giving it to nursing home residents would do them any good. [00:42] schestowitz They leverage tribalism [00:42] schestowitz "are you against Trump" [00:42] schestowitz "Then take the goddamn shot" [00:42] DaemonFC[m] Yeah, they aren't talking about the safety data, which nobody outside the FDA has even seen. [00:42] schestowitz secret data - I mentioned that [00:43] schestowitz we don't know the ages of the tested [00:43] DaemonFC[m] They won't tell us anything about the vaccine except we're all supposed to take it and things may get unpleasant when you do. [00:43] schestowitz the outcomes [00:43] schestowitz unless I have missed that [00:43] schestowitz Gates says ALL the vaccines for covid are good [00:43] schestowitz because.. he's the expert [00:43] schestowitz the expert shareholder [00:43] schestowitz vaccine profiteer [00:43] schestowitz the message from him is [00:43] schestowitz if a company claims to have a covid vaccine, then it's true [00:43] MinceR the expert mafia boss [00:43] schestowitz no questions asked [00:43] schestowitz I have one too [00:43] schestowitz it's mostly water and acid [00:44] schestowitz the bottle says "covid vaccine" [00:44] schestowitz so gates will say this one TOO will work [00:44] DaemonFC[m] Biden is saying to get the vaccines and there's been absolutely nothing wrong with the process. [00:44] DaemonFC[m] Of course, he has to say that. [00:44] schestowitz I lost the link about this "bill says" article [00:44] DaemonFC[m] He's so boxed in by this bungled process that if he says don't take it, he's going to be in even more political trouble than hoping for the best. [00:44] schestowitz I spoke to my dad 2 days ago about it [00:44] schestowitz he's in his mid sixties [00:44] schestowitz he refuses to take this [00:44] schestowitz he's very pro-vaccines in general [00:45] schestowitz but this one, he says, "let other people try it first" [00:46] schestowitz covid19 deaths at +1,358 in US on a Sunday, wow [00:46] schestowitz let's check historical track record [00:46] schestowitz for Sundays [00:47] schestowitz last week 1100 [00:47] schestowitz OK, April had worse Sundays [00:47] schestowitz not always, but sometimes [00:48] schestowitz so come Tuesday it can be back at 3000+ [00:48] schestowitz and cruise past 400,000 total by inauguration day [00:48] schestowitz I remember reading estimates like 2 million total back in March or sooner [00:48] schestowitz doesn't look far-fetched anymore [00:49] schestowitz Trump boasted it would stop somewhere near 70,000 [00:49] schestowitz how foolish this projection looks now [00:50] schestowitz last week was most deaths per day worldwide [00:50] schestowitz 12,918 [00:50] schestowitz December 11th, 704k new cases, all-time high [00:51] schestowitz Italy now has more total deaths than UK [00:51] schestowitz with a smaller population size [00:52] DaemonFC[m] My dad can't figure out why the Supreme Court voted unanimously twice to refuse to throw out the election. [00:52] DaemonFC[m] There's no way they could even disguise such a move as being legal. [00:52] DaemonFC[m] Not even these people are going to try doing so. [00:53] schestowitz In Belgium almost 1 in 500 citizens died with/from it [00:53] DaemonFC[m] They're on the court for life, they would do permanent damage to this country, possibly even cause it to collapse to rioting, to save a guy who can't punish them, when there could be another Republican president in four years anyway. [00:53] schestowitz DaemonFC[m]: the election is done [00:54] schestowitz they might try to start war with Iran next [00:54] schestowitz might [00:54] schestowitz [00:53] They're on the court for life, they would do permanent damage to this country, possibly even cause it to collapse to rioting, to save a guy who can't punish them, when there could be another Republican president in four years anyway. [00:54] DaemonFC[m] It does not help their benefactors, the oligarchy, to destroy the appearance of legitimacy the government has, to potentially cause a collapse of the government. [00:54] schestowitz Trump is a lame duck now [00:54] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lame_duck_(politics) [00:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Lame duck (politics) - Wikipedia [00:54] schestowitz "In politics, a lame duck or outgoing politician is an elected official whose successor has already been elected or will be soon. The official is often seen as having less influence with other politicians due to the limited time left in office. Conversely, a lame duck is free to make decisions that exercise the standard powers with little fear of consequence, such as issuing executive orders, pardons, or other controversial edicts. [00:54] schestowitz Lame duck politicians result from term limits, planned retirement, or electoral losses, and are especially noticeable where political systems build in a delay between the announcement of results and the taking of office by election winners. Even at the local level, politicians who do not seek re-election lose their credibility and influence to fellow councilors. Projects uncompleted may fall to the wayside as their influence is greatly [00:54] schestowitz diminished." [00:55] DaemonFC[m] Yeah, he has no influence over Congress really at this point. [00:55] DaemonFC[m] They're not going to be outspoken about it, but two bills are already looking liek veto overrides. [00:55] DaemonFC[m] And those would be the first two he's had. [00:55] schestowitz wow, 113,704 deaths in Mexico by now [00:55] DaemonFC[m] So he clearly isn't threatening them anymore with a veto pen because they just won or lost all of their elections and he has a month left. [00:56] schestowitz i lost sight of how badly hit they were, I stopped watching 1.5 months ago [00:56] DaemonFC[m] Officially it's killed about a tenth of a percent of all Americans in the last 8.5 months. [00:57] DaemonFC[m] But you can add another 100,000 dead for reasons unknown. [00:57] DaemonFC[m] Because nobody is really tracking this as closely as the official numbers suggest. [00:57] schestowitz I want to see total excess death [00:57] schestowitz as that tells the full story [00:57] schestowitz inc. people dead due to hospital DDOSed by people [00:57] schestowitz not just attacked by ransomware for using Windfows [00:58] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2020/06/09/windows-disaster-zones/ [00:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Index of the Series About Windows Inside Hospitals (Causing Hospitals to Become Disaster Zones) | Techrights [00:58] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: When we really know what happened but there's no official explanation, I say for reasons unknown. [00:58] DaemonFC[m] There's a reason. [00:58] schestowitz ignore the numbers with reasons listed [00:58] schestowitz look at the chart of total deaths [00:58] DaemonFC[m] In Aliens, when the company was covering up what happened on the Nostromo, the corporate bigwig guy says "For reasons unknown...". [00:58] schestowitz interpolate [00:58] schestowitz and then extrapolate how much should die [00:58] DaemonFC[m] They know what happened, but they won't tell you that. [00:59] DaemonFC[m] See? [00:59] schestowitz the US has a large set so you can chart it [00:59] schestowitz and the curve should be smoouth [00:59] schestowitz and you cannot hide death cerificate [00:59] schestowitz so then you calculate number of deaths [00:59] DaemonFC[m] Well, the CDC publishes excess deaths and at this point they're over 100,000. [00:59] schestowitz compare to the projected point (assuming no COVID) [00:59] DaemonFC[m] So that's in addition to the 307,000 from COVID. [00:59] schestowitz you might find an extra half a million American died last year) ● Dec 14 [01:00] schestowitz *well, this year [01:00] schestowitz but you would calculate that after the year is over [01:00] DaemonFC[m] They're saying "Could be anything. Could be that they were having a heart attack and were afraid to go to the hospital.". [01:00] DaemonFC[m] Some, perhaps. Not most. [01:00] schestowitz I'm sure some big newspaper will do that soon [01:00] schestowitz earlier on today I felt unwell [01:00] schestowitz and then I thought, "shit" [01:00] schestowitz "what if I needed to visit a doc" [01:00] schestowitz "might choose not to" [01:01] DaemonFC[m] Yeah, I've felt bad or gotten a headache or allergies causing my nose to run a few times this year. [01:01] DaemonFC[m] Was like, "Uh oh.". [01:01] DaemonFC[m] Because it's probably not that, but we all know it's out there. [01:03] DaemonFC[m] It's amazing what you don't know when you don't want to know. [01:03] schestowitz but that's an aside [01:03] schestowitz my point was, you don't want a crowded hospitals [01:03] schestowitz hospital [01:03] schestowitz going there might do more harm than good [01:03] DaemonFC[m] So we have 100,000 for reasons unknown, and it's because they don't want to take the political heat of throwing another 100,000 ish COVID victims into the pile. [01:04] schestowitz that would make US almost world leader [01:04] schestowitz maybe 3rd worst in the wold [01:04] schestowitz world [01:04] schestowitz after some city-states like Andorra [01:05] schestowitz USA "number one" [01:05] schestowitz they're already in top 10 [01:05] schestowitz almost 200,000 cases so far today [01:13] schestowitz well, at least companies that sell ventilators do OK [01:13] schestowitz I guess "lung of the Earth/planet" has a new meaning [01:13] schestowitz and it's not rainforests [01:13] DaemonFC[m] Of course, in the alt world where none of this ever happened, they brought us in for an interview and said that Mandy didn't have a job and had to leave the country. [01:13] DaemonFC[m] But 300,000+ dead, man that sucks. [01:14] DaemonFC[m] We all know where that was going, and why they waited until 2 weeks before the interview to send his work permit. [01:15] DaemonFC[m] It just so happened that at exactly the same time, COVID chased them all out of their offices. [01:15] XRevan86 https://youtu.be/wWw180_8uPc oh hey, Joseph Biden, that's a new one. [01:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-, ! - YouTube [01:16] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: Almost 1,400 deaths in the US from COVID reported on a Sunday. [01:20] DaemonFC[m] "The American Psychological Association has warned that "traditional masculinity ideology" is associated with negative effects on mental and physical health." [01:20] Ariadne i mean, it is [01:20] DaemonFC[m] And people liked them just fine when they said that homosexuality was a mental illness. [01:20] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [01:21] XRevan86 . [01:21] XRevan86 . [01:21] schestowitz What HE said ^ [01:21] schestowitz Hehe [01:22] XRevan86 yea! :) [01:22] schestowitz What Michael Jackson sang [01:22] schestowitz "Heeee heeeeeeee" [01:22] MinceR High Explosive? [01:22] schestowitz DaemonFC[m]: what is "masculinity ideology"? [01:23] schestowitz is it an ideology? [01:23] DaemonFC[m] MinceR: Tries that too on the comedian on New Vegas. [01:23] schestowitz is masculinity like a religion now? [01:23] DaemonFC[m] I put some C4 in is back pocket and got clear and hit the detonator. [01:23] MinceR :> [01:23] schestowitz and, if so, is there "radical" masculinity? [01:23] XRevan86 "If you didn't serve, you're not a Man." and "If you didn't do time, you're not a Man" [01:23] DaemonFC[m] Then they attacked me because it got a Securitron nearby. [01:23] MinceR "Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven." [01:23] XRevan86 serve as in army [01:24] schestowitz 'serve' [01:24] MinceR still servitude all the same [01:24] schestowitz it was always a good example of misuse of words [01:24] schestowitz associating bad things with positive-sounding stuff [01:24] DaemonFC[m] Yeah, you work at McDonalds and need food stamps, they call you a bum. [01:24] schestowitz this is the whole hegemony propaganda [01:24] schestowitz imperialism coded [01:24] DaemonFC[m] You join the military and kill people, they pin medals on you and send you to college for free. [01:25] schestowitz if you survive [01:25] schestowitz and are still mentally fit [01:25] schestowitz not waking up at night recalling your best buddy with his gut all open and spleen coming out, begging for "maamma maaaamma!!" [01:25] DaemonFC[m] I've lost count of the number of people who I knew that ended up in Iraq or something because they said "Well, they said it was one weekend a month and they'd pay for college. [01:26] schestowitz that's by design [01:26] schestowitz they make college expensive [01:26] schestowitz they make the conditions to send people abroad to fight for US oligarchs/corporations [01:26] schestowitz tuition at $40,000 per annum [01:26] schestowitz and debt paid until the mortgage 20 years later [01:26] schestowitz so you don't need as draft [01:26] DaemonFC[m] Yeah, nobody would sign up to go get their ass blown off if there were good jobs and affordable college. [01:27] schestowitz you just use financial measures to compel people to "join" and to "serve" [01:27] DaemonFC[m] The fact that nobody says they joined the military to serve their country and pretty much everyone said there weren't any jobs in my town and college is expensive, says it all. [01:27] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [01:27] DaemonFC[m] It's a slave army. [01:27] XRevan86 In Russia there's conscription [01:27] schestowitz slaves of corporate power [01:27] schestowitz did Bill Gates "serve"/ [01:27] schestowitz Did his dad "serve"? [01:28] schestowitz his mamma served... on the board of IBM, IIRC [01:28] DaemonFC[m] Trump might serve.......time....upstate. [01:28] schestowitz served her son [01:28] schestowitz not IBM [01:28] MinceR DaemonFC[m]: lock him up! lock him up! lock him up! [01:28] schestowitz didn't work out well for IBM [01:28] search_social "IBM" doesn't have goals [01:28] MinceR ibm seems to love microshit now [01:28] schestowitz MinceR: the superspreader would be unfair to put in a jail system [01:28] search_social the execs have goals to get rich and they achieve their goals [01:28] schestowitz it would super-spread in the cells [01:29] search_social "IBM" serves its purpose [01:29] MinceR solitary confinement, then [01:29] search_social are we still pretending trump did anything wrong? [01:29] MinceR why would we need to pretend? [01:29] search_social cuz he didn't? [01:29] schestowitz MinceR: that would be cruel to the solitary cell [01:29] search_social certainly not anything worse than every other politician and businessman in america [01:29] MinceR oh, i get it, you're pretending he didn't [01:29] MinceR but why? [01:30] search_social but you all seem to be intent on enabling the rich to continue wrecking us [01:30] search_social to satisfy your tds [01:30] MinceR news flash, he's rich [01:30] MinceR and he wrecked the usa [01:30] search_social yes and? [01:30] search_social there are a million rich people [01:30] DaemonFC[m] New York repealed a law that said you couldn't be charged wit ha state crime that's similar to one you got a federal pardon for. [01:30] search_social who have all wrecked the usa [01:30] *schestowitz detects waste-of-time ;debates' [01:30] schestowitz bbl [01:30] search_social but you never criticize them [01:30] DaemonFC[m] We know where this is going. [01:30] MinceR there was a debate? [01:30] search_social schestowitz: started talking about trump [01:30] search_social then schestowitz acts surprised he started a waste-of-time debate [01:30] MinceR how dare he [01:31] search_social nah starting it was fine [01:31] search_social acting surprised after he started it was hypocritical [01:31] search_social don't dish it out if you can't take it [01:31] MinceR also, i didn't know DaemonFC[m] was schestowitz [01:31] search_social < schestowitz> MinceR: the superspreader would be unfair to put in a jail system [01:32] MinceR scroll further up [01:32] search_social yes i know deamon always whines about trump [01:32] MinceR though it's telling that you recognize him by "superspreader" :> [01:32] search_social and try to ignore it [01:32] search_social yes, that's the slur cnn chose for him [01:32] search_social and you repeat it daily [01:32] MinceR i didn't know [01:32] MinceR there are many other superspreaders anyway [01:32] MinceR like peter szijjarto [01:32] DaemonFC[m] Meanwhile, Trump is trying to appoint Ken Starr as some sort of Special Prosecutor to look into Biden, but, uhh.... [01:33] search_social okay see this is fun [01:33] DaemonFC[m] Jesus, Rudy Giuliani, Ken Starr..... [01:33] DaemonFC[m] While we're plumbing 90s clowns, maybe they'll get to Monica. [01:33] search_social okay i mean it turns out szijjarto is just a proxy for trump but still i learned something new [01:33] search_social that's worthwhile [01:33] DaemonFC[m] Anyway, it's irrelevant. The US has no independent counsel law anymore. It got repealed. [01:34] MinceR https://pics.me.me/monica-33976742.png [01:34] DaemonFC[m] So if he does start investigating, Biden is free to tell him to take a hike. [01:37] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [01:42] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [01:49] schestowitz Ariadne: have we got time for migration tonight? [01:55] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [01:55] schestowitz zoobab: "their opinion regarding the future of the UPC, including threats of new constitutional complaints, which might stop the project altogether" [01:55] schestowitz http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2020/12/around-ip-blogs_13.html [01:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Around the IP Blogs - The IPKat [01:55] schestowitz she links to some patently false 'news' [01:56] schestowitz as might be expected from team UPC [01:57] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights ● Dec 14 [03:02] *mmu_man has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) ● Dec 14 [04:26] *jpli has quit (Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.) [04:31] DaemonFC[m] The thing that's clearest of all in this mess is that anyone in prison who was prosecuted by Rudy Giuliani deserves a new trial. [04:34] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: Dad's at it again. [04:35] DaemonFC[m] I told him the Republicans had evidence of fraud, but the Scientologists sent it through their time machine in Florida so nobody would ever be able to present it in court. [04:36] Ariadne counterfeit face masks [04:36] Ariadne amazing [04:54] Ariadne thats a pretty good scoop regarding red hat [04:55] Ariadne IBM shifted back to doing their alpine stuff [04:55] Ariadne i think theyve basically written redhat off as a loss [04:55] Ariadne redhat on power is really buggy [04:56] Ariadne alpine and debian seem to be the most reliable and thats where IBM have traditionally given support [04:57] Ariadne and then getting redhat down to container scale is ... well [04:57] Ariadne it would take a significant restructuring of the distribution ● Dec 14 [05:10] *cubexyz has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [05:11] *cubexyz (~cubeman@maxhost.org) has joined #techrights [05:20] *xvx has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [05:30] Ariadne i figure IBM sells RHEL to somebody else [05:30] Ariadne probably some VCs [05:59] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) ● Dec 14 [06:00] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [06:01] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [06:18] *cybrNaut has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [06:21] oiaohm Ariadne: IBM has lots of different things they have held on have not being making major profits. [06:22] oiaohm Its its a little hard to work out what IBM will do with RHEL. [06:24] oiaohm Ariadne: https://au.news.yahoo.com/ibm-separately-list-managed-infrastructure-105018051.html Its possible that IBM spins RHEL out as it own company again. They have done this enough times as well. [06:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-au.news.yahoo.com | IBM to break up 109-year old company to focus on cloud growth [06:27] Ariadne yes, point is though that RHEL is not what IBM hoped it to be [06:28] schestowitz maybe IBM isn't what Jim hoped it would turn out to be [06:31] *Condor (~freenode@e1.nixmagic.com) has joined #techrights [06:32] schestowitz https://joindiaspora.com/posts/19657490 [06:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody@joindiaspora.com: Supermarkets 'told to stockpile food' as fears grow of no-deal Brexit - https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/dec/13/supermarkets-told-to-stockpile-food-as-fears-grow-of-no-deal-brexit expect panic buying to begin shortly when people realise what is going on... #brexitreality [06:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | Supermarkets 'told to stockpile food' as fears grow of no-deal Brexit | Brexit | The Guardian [06:34] *birkoff has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [06:41] Ariadne schestowitz: Jim is a suit [06:41] Ariadne schestowitz: he doesn't give a flying fuck about the software [06:47] *birkoff (birkoff@gateway/shell/ircnow/x-vlnlxspoezayfqbb) has joined #techrights ● Dec 14 [07:07] *kupi has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) [07:09] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: May we live long and die out | http://vhemt.org/) [07:49] *pav5088 (~pav5088@175.39.157.104) has joined #techrights [07:50] *pav5088 has quit (Client Quit) [07:54] *pav5088 (~pav5088@175.39.157.104) has joined #techrights [07:59] vZS1 schestowitz: anonymity isn't really easy to do. A printed letter is pretty good. ● Dec 14 [08:03] *tdemin (~tdemin@lan.tdem.in) has joined #techrights [08:10] *notanamber (~luca@2001:b07:a16:5bc0:bd01:a12:47e2:5907) has joined #techrights [08:13] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [08:15] *cybrNaut (~cybrNaut@rrcs-67-53-148-69.west.biz.rr.com) has joined #techrights [08:16] *inky has quit (*.net *.split) [08:22] *inky (~inky@141.136.76.18) has joined #techrights [08:28] *notanamber has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [08:31] *notanamber (~luca@2001:b07:a16:5bc0:bd01:a12:47e2:5907) has joined #techrights [08:33] DaemonFC[m] https://www.zdnet.com/article/goodbye-centos-hello-rocky-linux/ [08:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Goodbye CentOS, hello Rocky Linux | ZDNet [08:33] DaemonFC[m] According to SJVN, the biggest effect of ending CentOS is a boon for Canonical. [08:35] DaemonFC[m] Ubuntu doesn [08:35] DaemonFC[m] *doesn't restrict people from using the LTS for free [08:35] DaemonFC[m] If they want a support contract later, they can buy one. [08:36] DaemonFC[m] I don't think that Debian supports any release for 8 years to any degree. [08:37] DaemonFC[m] Updating your laptop is different than a big corporation that has software and thousands of systems in place and doesn't want any disruption going on, even every few years. [08:38] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: I noticed Gates said he'd take a COVID vaccine publicly. [08:39] DaemonFC[m] Of course, who knows? The thing a billionaire who is that conservative about risk would do is stay in the mansion and don't go near anyone until it's over. Not like he has to.... [08:44] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [08:47] *oiaohm_ (~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm) has joined #techrights [08:47] *oiaohm has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [08:59] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights ● Dec 14 [09:00] *rodolpho[m] has quit (Quit: Idle for 30+ days) [09:00] *oiaohm (~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm) has joined #techrights [09:03] *oiaohm_ has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [09:21] search_social has anyone heard of xanadu [09:44] kingoffrance its a ddr song but im sure thats not your context :) ● Dec 14 [10:01] search_social xanadu is apparently this competing idea to hyperlinks that's been a long-running feud since the birth of the internet [10:01] search_social in some sense similar to vhs vs betamax i assume, except about the user interface of software [10:02] schestowitz [06:41] schestowitz: he doesn't give a flying fuck about the software [10:02] search_social the difference being that a hyperlink completely jumps your window to a new page, whereas a xanadulink would open the new page side by side, and let you connect similar regions of the pages to each other [10:02] schestowitz flying is a key point [10:03] schestowitz We studied xanadu in university [10:03] search_social kind of like vimdiff i guess; except instead of being for exact matches in ascii it's for semantic matches in meaning [10:03] search_social schestowitz: what did university say about xanadu [10:03] schestowitz I thought at first you were referring to the mansion of Bill Gates by its name [10:03] schestowitz we studied how it worked [10:04] schestowitz but I no longer remember the details ● Dec 14 [11:03] *notanamber has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [11:03] *notanamber (~luca@93-41-34-118.ip79.fastwebnet.it) has joined #techrights [11:36] *mmu_man (~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net) has joined #techrights ● Dec 14 [12:04] *chovy (~chovy@pdpc/supporter/active/chovy) has joined #techrights [12:04] chovy howdy [12:04] chovy how can i help [12:16] search_social howdy [12:18] kingoffrance ah there was something a lone individual spent years on, dont recall the name [12:18] kingoffrance yeah i have heard of it years ago but drawing a blank [12:19] kingoffrance spent years trying to get a prototype, dont recall what happened [12:20] search_social xanadu? philosophers stone? [12:20] kingoffrance lol i should know that but havent heard that [12:21] kingoffrance thats an infinitely-named thing basically [12:22] kingoffrance wired or someone wrote about the one i am thinking of [12:22] kingoffrance one of those "what might have been" stories [12:35] search_social xml? [12:38] kingoffrance https://www.wired.com/1995/06/xanadu/ that was surely it a 30-year saga of rabid prototyping and heart-slashing despair. The amazing epic tragedy. [12:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Curse of Xanadu | WIRED [12:51] search_social reminds me of hurd ● Dec 14 [13:27] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [13:31] *oiaohm has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [13:32] *oiaohm (~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm) has joined #techrights [13:34] *oiaohm has quit (Excess Flood) [13:34] *oiaohm (~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm) has joined #techrights [13:36] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [13:41] *kupi (uid212005@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ukhucmkqxxkluaif) has joined #techrights [13:42] *oiaohm has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [13:45] *oiaohm (~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm) has joined #techrights [13:49] *oiaohm_ (~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm) has joined #techrights [13:52] *oiaohm has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [13:57] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) ● Dec 14 [14:06] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [14:06] MinceR (cat) https://i.imgur.com/B6A8sLf.jpg [14:07] MinceR 14 063048 < Ariadne> i figure IBM sells RHEL to somebody else [14:07] MinceR probably microshit [14:07] Ariadne i think microsoft has better cluet han that [14:08] MinceR they took over Linux already, it would make sense for them to also take over the userland of most distros [14:16] *xvx (~xvx@185.48.63.105) has joined #techrights [14:17] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [14:17] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [14:24] vZS1 schestowitz: if you're doing audio pieces, I don't mind joining in. 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[15:09] MinceR yes [15:09] MinceR https://www.linuxfoundation.org/membership/members/ [15:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxfoundation.org | Our Corporate Members The Linux Foundation [15:11] *tdemin_ (~tdemin@lan.tdem.in) has joined #techrights [15:18] MinceR (cat) https://full.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/25/50f67f827999f3f6.jpg [15:36] MinceR (no audio) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/26/b0fb421a97ba34f2.mp4 [15:41] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [15:42] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [15:48] *tdemin_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [15:48] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [15:49] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights ● Dec 14 [16:16] *oiaohm_ has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [16:17] *oiaohm_ (~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm) has joined #techrights [16:19] XRevan86 https://youtu.be/smhi6jts97I just opened, already has English subtitles, now that's speed [16:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- . , - YouTube [16:20] XRevan86 (Navalny about who tried to poison him) [16:36] *notanamber has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [16:36] schestowitz [14:24] schestowitz: if you're doing audio pieces, I don't mind joining in. [16:36] schestowitz sounds good [16:38] *oiaohm (~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm) has joined #techrights [16:38] schestowitz [15:04] $MS took over Linux? [16:38] schestowitz No, "MicrosoftLovesLinux"(R) [16:38] schestowitz They didn't take over, they mounted it [16:40] *oiaohm_ has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [16:40] schestowitz [12:20] xanadu? philosophers stone? [16:40] schestowitz IIRC, the name is one I first learned because of the movie [16:40] schestowitz and their very good theme/opening song [16:41] schestowitz later the project, predating www [16:41] schestowitz it wasn't a bad concept [16:41] schestowitz Recently I learned that's what Bill Gates calls his mansion? I did not check to verify... [16:41] schestowitz But spooky is true [16:41] schestowitz almost as bad as calling a plane "Lolita Express" [16:45] *tdemin_ (~tdemin@lan.tdem.in) has joined #techrights [16:56] schestowitz vZS1: have you use Mumble before? ● Dec 14 [17:13] XRevan86 There's something epic about that they've managed to track the most secret parts of FSB remotely just by purchasing tracking data through the Internet. [17:18] MinceR (audio) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/25/c46a0f907bca7332.mp4 [17:19] XRevan86 That's what happens when one stores all the data. [17:19] XRevan86 it gets leaked [17:20] XRevan86 And now not only Russia can track everyone, everyone can track Russia. [17:36] vZS1 schestowitz: I think I've messed around with Mumble once. Can't remember. I don't mind installing it. 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[18:32] schestowitz Just did my first video for techrights about epo .... one take, not scripted, 100% spontaneous and not too bad considering all that... [18:32] schestowitz 65mb, uploading now, ogg format [18:33] schestowitz won't be bother with youtube, it's a third party [18:47] vZS1 Flowblade is a GPL editor [18:47] vZS1 You might want to look into that [18:53] *balrog has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [18:57] *tdemin_ has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [18:58] *balrog (~balrog@unaffiliated/balrog) has joined #techrights ● Dec 14 [19:08] *Blukunfando (~bkf@62.57.153.77.dyn.user.ono.com) has joined #techrights [19:40] *kupi has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) ● Dec 14 [20:23] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [20:27] *cubexyz has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [20:27] *cubexyz (~cubeman@maxhost.org) has joined #techrights [20:27] *inky (inky@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/norayr) has joined #techrights [20:38] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) ● Dec 14 [21:00] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [21:39] MinceR (cat) (no audio) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/25/c479fc6f088147a7.mp4 ● Dec 14 [22:10] MinceR https://assets.amuniversal.com/f61a8530556f01379a54005056a9545d ( https://dilbert.com/strip/2019-05-31 ) [22:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Go Hard Or Go Home - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2019-05-31 | Dilbert by Scott Adams [22:12] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [22:36] MinceR https://assets.amuniversal.com/29a898403d4501379181005056a9545d ( https://dilbert.com/strip/2019-06-02 ) [22:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dilbert Comic Strip on 2019-06-02 | Dilbert by Scott Adams [22:38] schestowitz vZS1: thanks, I heard of it before... [22:38] schestowitz anyway, just had a major migraine due to lack of sleep, feeling better after a nap, will resume now with news [22:51] MinceR https://assets.amuniversal.com/554b7c706dca0137a29a005056a9545d ( https://dilbert.com/strip/2019-07-11 ) [22:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Boss Surgery - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2019-07-11 | Dilbert by Scott Adams [22:51] *cubexyz has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [22:52] *cubexyz (~cubeman@maxhost.org) has joined #techrights ● Dec 14 [23:03] *cubexyz has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [23:03] *cubexyz (~cubeman@maxhost.org) has joined #techrights [23:08] DaemonFC[m] Trump tweets Barr is "leaving" White House [23:08] DaemonFC[m] Barr none. [23:09] DaemonFC[m] I mean, he did illegal and outrageous things as the Attorney General, like having ICE deploy chemical weapons attacks and kidnappings against American citizens who were holding protest signs. [23:09] *xvx has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [23:09] DaemonFC[m] Maybe since he failed to dig up anything on Biden he won't get a pardon and someone will prosecute Barr. [23:36] *mmu_man has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [23:41] vZS1 schestowitz: take a day away from the computer. Just sleep. Helps.