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The new freenode is launched. You will slowly be disconnected and when you reconnect, you will be on the new freenode. We patiently await to welcome you in freedom's holdout - the freenode. [01:20] -keitwo-[Global Notice 2/3] If you're looking to connect now, you can already /server chat.freenode.net 6697 (ssl) or 6667 (plaintext). It's a new genesis for a new era. Thank you for using freenode, and Hello World, from the future. freenode is IRC. freenode is FOSS. freenode is freedom. [01:20] -keitwo-[Global Notice 3/3] When you connect, register your nickname and your channel and get started. It's a new world. We're so happy to welcome you and the millions of others. We will be posting more information in the coming days on our website and twitter. Otherwise, see you on the other side! 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(a)bort, (i)gnore, (r)etry, (f)ail [02:39] MinceR :) [02:49] *mmu_man has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [02:52] *xvx has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) ● Jun 15 [03:02] AdmFubar night [03:02] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@76-234-138-224.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) has left #techrights [03:03] *bagira has quit (Quit: Bye) [03:04] techrights-ipfs Gemini requests since start of month: 98684 total Total pages: 35866 Active: active (running) since Tue 2021-06-08 16:18:39 BST; 6 days ago [03:04] techrights-ipfs IPFS local node stats (past 23 hours) calculated. TotalIn: 2.0 GB TotalOut: 531 MB [03:04] techrights-ipfs New daily bulletin just generated. It is about to be added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with CID [03:24] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 27.38 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 48.65 swarm size (avg): 245.49 [03:52] *IroncladCorona has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) ● Jun 15 [04:09] *phobos_anomaly (~phobos@unaffiliated/phobos-anomaly/x-6744724) has joined #techrights [04:13] *DVulgaris has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) ● Jun 15 [00:03] [00:24] [00:59] ● Jun 15 [01:00] [01:00] [01:00] [01:49] Ariadne welp [01:53] [01:53] [01:56] Ariadne freenode definitely gonna be dead now [01:56] Ariadne haha [01:56] Ariadne omg how fucked [01:56] XRevan86 Ariadne: Wait, what else happened? [01:56] Ariadne they just cut over to inspircd and anope [01:57] Ariadne without porting the services database [01:57] Ariadne so theres literally zero reason to be there now [01:57] XRevan86 Ariadne: I'm sorry, but what's a services database? [01:58] XRevan86 Does that mean users, channels, settings? [01:59] Ariadne yes ● Jun 15 [02:00] Ariadne as always if you know of any projects that would like to host their own irc [02:00] Ariadne i am available to assist [02:01] XRevan86 why is this so painful [02:02] XRevan86 That's a rhetorical question, no need to answer that. [02:03] XRevan86 On a bright side, I no longer have any channels on freenode that I visit, so I dropped my account a few hours ago. [02:03] XRevan86 I guess that was redundant? [02:04] XRevan86 Ariadne: What I don't understand is why freenode rushes in to break more and more things when everything is so unstable right now. [02:04] XRevan86 just hold your ground or something? [02:05] [02:05] [02:09] XRevan86 Ariadne: Do I need to restart the bridge? I can't tell anymore. [02:09] MinceR not only that [02:09] MinceR the network is in at least three pieces now [02:09] MinceR this one, the one our bridge is (was?) on, and the new one [02:10] MinceR most users seem to be on the second part [02:10] XRevan86 MinceR: So I shouldn't restart the bridge? [02:10] MinceR probably not [02:11] XRevan86 It's just that where's TechrightsBot-tr now? [02:11] MinceR it would probably go into the inspircd+anope net with hardly any users, no services database and none of our bots [02:11] MinceR i think it's on the second part [02:11] MinceR oh, i can test that [02:11] MinceR https://example.com/ [02:11] MinceR nope, looks like it's gone [02:11] [02:11] MinceR and whowas already forgot the users that got lost in the split [02:12] MinceR so i don't even know any servers that are there [02:12] MinceR 15 030417 < XRevan86> Ariadne: What I don't understand is why freenode rushes in to break more and more things when everything is so unstable right now. [02:12] MinceR incompetence [02:12] MinceR the freenodecom debacle also reeks of incompetence [02:12] XRevan86 MinceR: I am incompetent, I barely know IRC. [02:13] MinceR "yeah, i'll just quickly code a bot that understands topics written in english, no problem" [02:13] XRevan86 But this is something else. [02:13] [02:13] XRevan86 Also I need to get this off my chest: I told you all so. [02:14] MinceR what did you tell us? [02:14] XRevan86 MinceR: That freenode is unsafe [02:14] XRevan86 in term of long term sustainability [02:15] XRevan86 I didn't expect it to crumble this quickly though. [02:15] MinceR nothing on earth is safe, in terms of long term sustainability [02:16] XRevan86 MinceR: That is technically true [02:16] MinceR the best kind of true. [02:16] XRevan86 MinceR: However, there was something about freenode that was giving this sort of expectation [02:17] XRevan86 MinceR: If I plug a new high grade SSD and a very old very highly used HDD into a PC, technically I don't know which drive will fail first. [02:17] MinceR is the PC on? [02:18] XRevan86 MinceR: If I get a lada and a porsche, technically I [02:18] MinceR also, it wasn't a competition [02:18] MinceR if you get a lada and a porsche, you get two crap cars [02:18] XRevan86 don't know which one will drive through a swamp in tact :) [02:18] MinceR so yeah, that's a better analogy [02:18] XRevan86 with a twist :3 [02:18] MinceR and both of them come from manufacturers that hate their customers [02:22] XRevan86 MinceR: I'll put it differently: if ye had like a relatively small project that wants an IRC presence, would ye rather not be on freenode right now? [02:22] kingoffrance there are times you rush in and break stuff. thats called staging, development, alpha, beta ...not live production with 1000s of people connected. it does seem incompetence despite whatever else [02:23] XRevan86 kingoffrance: roughly 49K [02:23] MinceR XRevan86: i would not have chosen freenode nor oftc for such a purpose for years [02:23] XRevan86 so tenths of thousands [02:23] kingoffrance even mcdonalds or burger king doesnt change their whole menu all at once [02:23] MinceR and since libera exists, i would not have chosen libera either [02:23] kingoffrance they give you bits and pieces of temporary test items [02:23] MinceR XRevan86: i don't trust the staff of any of those 3 networks [02:23] XRevan86 MinceR: I've forgotten what network is your network of choice. [02:23] MinceR umbrellanet [02:24] XRevan86 MinceR: What projects does it host? [02:25] MinceR none, afaik [02:25] XRevan86 cool [02:25] MinceR it's a general purpose network [02:25] XRevan86 I'm sure it is very project-oriented in its design and policy. [02:26] MinceR it is not [02:26] XRevan86 bummer [02:26] MinceR and i wouldn't need that for my projects anyway [02:26] XRevan86 "if I don't need it, no one needs it" [02:27] MinceR others will prefer other networks [02:27] MinceR if they like being cancelled, they'll go to libera [02:27] XRevan86 Yea, Libera or OFTC [02:28] MinceR if they like being cancelled and using nonfree javascript, they'll go to oftc [02:28] XRevan86 Wait, but OFTC has such a basic website [02:28] XRevan86 works just fine, I don't know [02:30] XRevan86 regarding being cancelled, this freenode stuff is my first time [02:32] MinceR afaik they require some sort of web-based captcha for nick registration [02:33] XRevan86 MinceR: It doesn't mean it requires JavaScript [02:33] MinceR it's recaptcha, iirc [02:33] MinceR it was brought up at the FSF meeting [02:34] MinceR i registered in 2006, it probably wasn't that way back then [02:36] MinceR rinnegan.freenode.net is in the part of the network that has the old services [02:37] MinceR but the bridge doesn't seem to be there either [02:37] [02:38] [02:38] [02:38] [02:38] [02:38] [02:38] [02:38] [02:38] [02:38] [02:38] XRevan86 Oh crap, it's broken [02:38] MinceR :( [02:38] MinceR which island do you want it to be on? [02:38] XRevan86 I think I need to register it? [02:39] XRevan86 MinceR: The new one I guess [02:39] MinceR if you want it to go to the new network, then indeed you need a new registration [02:41] XRevan86 ah, they broke TLS, I was wondering why I can't connect [02:47] [02:47] [02:47] XRevan86 we good for now? [02:48] saint_dogbert/fn until someone gets a wild hair up their ass and deletes the database again [02:48] CrystalMath/fn i am no longer opposed to connecting to irc.techrights.org in any way [02:48] CrystalMath/fn you can expect me to connect there [02:49] XRevan86 A moment, I need to restart bridge. [02:49] [02:50] [02:50] [02:50] saint_dogbert/fn I wonder what the purpose of deleting the DB was? Maybe tomaw locked the owner out of something? [02:50] XRevan86 saint_dogbert: nope [02:50] XRevan86 saint_dogbert: That's way too complicated of a hypothesis :) [02:50] MinceR they switched to new ircd+services [02:51] MinceR it would have to be converted [02:51] CrystalMath/fn he said that freenode must burn to the ground in order to rise like a phoenix [02:51] XRevan86 MinceR: but that's work, right? [02:51] MinceR i don't know whether they tried and failed or just ignored it [02:51] MinceR yeah [02:51] MinceR pretty much everything about running an irc network is work [02:51] CrystalMath/fn the first half of that is successful [02:51] MinceR fwiw, the bridge is indeed alive :> [02:52] XRevan86 schestowitz: I'll need a new registration code %). [02:53] XRevan86 MinceR: I've put in the work %) [02:53] MinceR :) [02:54] XRevan86 MinceR: I'm pretty sure schestowitz won't be able to get log integrity out of this one. [02:54] XRevan86 he only has two bots [02:54] MinceR well, he can just take what's here [02:55] MinceR he's not responsible for the mother of all netsplits [02:55] XRevan86 MinceR: I think he would still want to. [02:57] XRevan86 > The session limit for your IP been exceeded. [02:57] XRevan86 Oh, that's a new one. [02:57] XRevan86 so the limit is just 3 ? ● Jun 15 [03:05] saint_dogbert/fn Got a feeling this new network isn't going to attract a lot of people [03:08] XRevan86 saint_dogbert: It had trouble with that even before this. [03:08] MinceR i doubt attracting people is the goal of the new freenode [03:08] saint_dogbert/fn Ain't that the truth [03:08] MinceR or perhaps the new staff believes that k-lines attract users [03:09] MinceR 15 035721 < XRevan86> > The session limit for your IP been exceeded. [03:09] MinceR do you run identd? [03:09] XRevan86 MinceR: No, just simple daemons [03:09] XRevan86 with SASL [03:10] XRevan86 although now tr-bridge is without SASL [03:10] MinceR the network might allow more connections from an address if identd running. but it might require different usernames for that. [03:10] MinceR (and of course none of this is guaranteed) [03:10] XRevan86 MinceR: To be fair, I won't need that. [03:12] [03:17] phobos/fn So what is the goal of the new network? to convince everyone to leave? [03:17] MinceR no idea [03:17] MinceR stupid shit just continues happening [03:18] *phobos/fn suspects the new owners and staff doesn't know the first thing about running a network [03:18] XRevan86 On a bright side, the topic with "Support freenode" should be wiped away too. [03:18] phobos/fn ;) [03:18] phobos/fn No argument here [03:20] MinceR it does look that way [03:20] MinceR XRevan86: actually, that was removed from the topic with one of the waves of k-lines [03:20] XRevan86 MinceR: Oh, good :). [03:20] MinceR it surprises me somewhat though -- how did these people run rizon? [03:20] XRevan86 Such a good line, and it isn't actually true. [03:22] MinceR it was removed on 2021-06-13 02:31:12 [03:22] [03:22] [03:22] CrystalMath hi all [03:22] MinceR this was soon after rbraun was k-lined [03:22] MinceR wb [03:24] MinceR (the timestamp is in CEST, of course) [03:25] XRevan86 MinceR: The fun part is that I have no idea what schestowitz' reaction will be. He stated that he values freenode for the channel and nickname history. And that was just taken away. [03:26] MinceR not sure what happened just yet [03:26] CrystalMath MinceR: the great reset! [03:26] MinceR we still have pieces of the network running the old ircd and no services, running the old ircd + old services and running the new ircd + services [03:27] MinceR things have been so erratic i don't want to try to predict what's next [03:28] XRevan86 I wonder if that will break the Matrix integration permanently. [03:29] MinceR it was already pretty broken [03:38] psymin Is it safe to just give CrystalMath ops on the channels I can on freenode? [03:38] psymin too much responsibility for me, passign the buck :D [03:39] CrystalMath psymin: i'm on on old freenode #debianfork [03:39] CrystalMath so you can give me that [03:39] CrystalMath i will give it to coagen [03:39] CrystalMath who rightfully owns it [03:39] CrystalMath *i'm op on [03:39] psymin/fn and here? [03:40] CrystalMath/fn if you do i will keep it for schestowitz [03:40] CrystalMath/fn if he wants it [03:48] XRevan86 freenode just turned into "another network", something schestowitz has been unwilling to register on, so I really can't predict his actions here. [03:49] saint_dogbert/fn are there any nodes for the old network still up? [03:49] saint_dogbert/fn I've tried what I thought were a few old active ones and still get redirected here [03:49] XRevan86 saint_dogbert: rinnegan. [03:49] XRevan86 Just cleaned up the bridge accounts from there. [03:49] saint_dogbert/fn thanks [03:53] XRevan86 From one side of things, re-registering is a compatible thing to do [03:54] XRevan86 From another side, I think Roy will not forgive Andrew for it, and might not do it out of spite. [03:56] MinceR moon.freenode.net is also up, running old ircd and separated from services and from rinnegan [03:56] XRevan86 Registration on another network like Libera seems unlikely, so this is likely to be one of the last days of the bridge. [03:56] saint_dogbert/fn moon was dropping my connection [03:56] saint_dogbert/fn ~6 minutes ago [03:56] ● Jun 15 [04:16] techrights-bot/fn *** *** Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-140621.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-140621.txt Read the log now... [04:17] techrights-bot/fn *** *** Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. 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[04:20] schestowitz freenode is broken again [04:20] schestowitz and I will need to do lots of manual work [04:21] schestowitz instead of doing actual work [04:24] techrights-bot/fn *** *** Yesterday's bulletin ready. http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-06-14.txt [04:26] schestowitz the way things are going, FN is failing to recover [04:28] CrystalMath hi schestowitz [04:28] schestowitz hi [04:28] MinceR hi [04:28] CrystalMath i connected to ariadnenode [04:28] schestowitz I've enabled logging from this network [04:29] schestowitz seeing that I cannot see activity in freenode [04:29] MinceR schestowitz: FN is in 3 pieces (at least), 1 without services, 1 with the old ircd+services and 1 with new ircd+services and nearly empty services db [04:29] MinceR the bridge seems to be connected to the new one [04:29] MinceR i don't know what they're going to do about this [04:30] schestowitz either way, this will waste AT LEAST an hour of my time [04:30] schestowitz not what I call stability [04:30] schestowitz for the second night in a row [04:30] MinceR your other connection and techrights-ipfs are on the second piece [04:30] MinceR yeah [04:30] schestowitz pieceNode [04:30] schestowitz rest in piece [04:31] MinceR :> [04:31] schestowitz I will need to assemble log 'pieces' for today's log [04:31] schestowitz so a third night waste of time already guaranteed [04:40] schestowitz -keitwo- [Global Notice 1/3] We are moving past legacy freenode to a new fork. The new freenode is launched. You will slowly be disconnected and when you reconnect, you will be on the new freenode. We patiently await to welcome you in freedom's holdout - the freenode. [04:40] schestowitz -keitwo- [Global Notice 2/3] If you're looking to connect now, you can already /server chat.freenode.net 6697 (ssl) or 6667 (plaintext). It's a new genesis for a new era. Thank you for using freenode, and Hello World, from the future. freenode is IRC. freenode is FOSS. freenode is freedom. [04:40] schestowitz -keitwo- [Global Notice 3/3] When you connect, register your nickname and your channel and get started. It's a new world. We're so happy to welcome you and the millions of others. We will be posting more information in the coming days on our website and twitter. Otherwise, see you on the other side! [04:41] schestowitz (for the record) [04:41] MinceR which i didn't even receive because the server i was on was split [04:42] schestowitz yes, only one of my clients saw that [04:42] schestowitz 40 minutes (and counting) wasted [04:42] schestowitz I am still manually running things, for the second night in a row [04:42] schestowitz it's a good thing Ariadne set up this contigency [04:43] schestowitz for situations such as this at the very least [04:46] MinceR indeed [04:48] schestowitz to summarise: [04:49] schestowitz 1. freenode did a migration of some kind without prior warning/headsup [04:49] schestowitz 2. freenode cannot be relied upon for comms at the moment as users are all over the place, disjoint [04:49] schestowitz 3. there is no schedule/plan anywhere, so we cannot rely on it for the moment [04:50] schestowitz 4. at the moment I log from this network [04:50] schestowitz 5. I will need to merge manually from this network, so log format for prior hours will be odd [04:50] MinceR indeed [04:51] schestowitz 6. some people might be talking in freenode at the moment, but we won't see them (like people who say stuff in LC, with an imposer channel) [04:51] schestowitz maybe we'll move all the bots over here soon [04:51] samiamsam they didn't do a migration at all [04:51] schestowitz let's see what a state freenode will be in when the unplanned, unannounced migration is done [04:51] samiamsam they just started a new server instance with no existing data [04:52] schestowitz OK, that's why some people DM me about cloaks [04:52] schestowitz mayeb their staff just wants to use all the same tools they used in some other network [04:53] schestowitz as they can barely operate what freenode had in place [04:53] schestowitz "We're so happy to welcome you and the millions of others." [04:53] schestowitz millions?! [04:53] MinceR yeah, lol [04:53] schestowitz their # of online users was almost falling below 50k already [04:53] MinceR peak was under 250k users, on QuakeNet, in 2005 [04:55] schestowitz OK, manual runs done now [04:55] schestowitz I will need to mere missing data tomorrow [04:56] schestowitz https://freenode.net/ [04:56] schestowitz latest is https://freenode.net/news/taking-irc-further [04:56] schestowitz not a word about a migration [04:57] schestowitz if freenode was a paid service, there would be many cancellations right now ● Jun 15 [05:01] schestowitz I am thinking whether to migrate some of the bots here already [05:01] schestowitz impulse says yes [05:01] schestowitz but caution says not yet, as we barely even know what will come out from the other side [05:06] MinceR well, i expect the other side to remain turbulent for a while [05:09] schestowitz OK, seems one machine of mine got xchat format logs for this channel, so I can merge OK [05:09] ● Jun 15 [04:16] techrights-bot/fn *** *** Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social IRC logs ready. 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[04:20] schestowitz freenode is broken again [04:20] schestowitz and I will need to do lots of manual work [04:21] schestowitz instead of doing actual work [04:21] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 25.35 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 29.76 swarm size (avg): 245.54 [04:24] techrights-bot/fn *** *** Yesterday's bulletin ready. http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-06-14.txt [04:26] schestowitz the way things are going, FN is failing to recover [04:28] CrystalMath hi schestowitz [04:28] schestowitz hi [04:28] MinceR hi [04:28] CrystalMath i connected to ariadnenode [04:28] schestowitz I've enabled logging from this network [04:29] schestowitz seeing that I cannot see activity in freenode [04:29] MinceR schestowitz: FN is in 3 pieces (at least), 1 without services, 1 with the old ircd+services and 1 with new ircd+services and nearly empty services db [04:29] MinceR the bridge seems to be connected to the new one [04:29] MinceR i don't know what they're going to do about this [04:29] techrights-ipfs Gemini requests since start of month: 98793 total Total pages: 35866 Active: active (running) since Tue 2021-06-08 16:18:39 BST; 6 days ago [04:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS local node stats (past 23 hours) calculated. TotalIn: 57 MB TotalOut: 15 MB [04:29] techrights-ipfs New daily bulletin just generated. It is about to be added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with CID [04:30] schestowitz either way, this will waste AT LEAST an hour of my time [04:30] schestowitz not what I call stability [04:30] schestowitz for the second night in a row [04:30] MinceR your other connection and techrights-ipfs are on the second piece [04:30] MinceR yeah [04:30] schestowitz pieceNode [04:30] schestowitz rest in piece [04:31] MinceR :> [04:31] schestowitz I will need to assemble log 'pieces' for today's log [04:31] schestowitz so a third night waste of time already guaranteed [04:31] techrights-ipfs QmWUuHEZ2oaiCQvka8SLGahoMnqWoQAYEYcBWvmbUrf6Us [04:34] *stormchaser3000 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [04:40] schestowitz -keitwo- [Global Notice 1/3] We are moving past legacy freenode to a new fork. The new freenode is launched. You will slowly be disconnected and when you reconnect, you will be on the new freenode. We patiently await to welcome you in freedom's holdout - the freenode. [04:40] schestowitz -keitwo- [Global Notice 2/3] If you're looking to connect now, you can already /server chat.freenode.net 6697 (ssl) or 6667 (plaintext). It's a new genesis for a new era. Thank you for using freenode, and Hello World, from the future. freenode is IRC. freenode is FOSS. freenode is freedom. [04:40] schestowitz -keitwo- [Global Notice 3/3] When you connect, register your nickname and your channel and get started. It's a new world. We're so happy to welcome you and the millions of others. We will be posting more information in the coming days on our website and twitter. Otherwise, see you on the other side! [04:41] schestowitz (for the record) [04:41] MinceR which i didn't even receive because the server i was on was split [04:42] schestowitz yes, only one of my clients saw that [04:42] schestowitz 40 minutes (and counting) wasted [04:42] schestowitz I am still manually running things, for the second night in a row [04:42] schestowitz it's a good thing Ariadne set up this contigency [04:43] schestowitz for situations such as this at the very least [04:46] MinceR indeed [04:48] schestowitz to summarise: [04:49] schestowitz 1. freenode did a migration of some kind without prior warning/headsup [04:49] schestowitz 2. freenode cannot be relied upon for comms at the moment as users are all over the place, disjoint [04:49] schestowitz 3. there is no schedule/plan anywhere, so we cannot rely on it for the moment [04:50] schestowitz 4. at the moment I log from this network [04:50] schestowitz 5. I will need to merge manually from this network, so log format for prior hours will be odd [04:50] MinceR indeed [04:51] schestowitz 6. some people might be talking in freenode at the moment, but we won't see them (like people who say stuff in LC, with an imposer channel) [04:51] schestowitz maybe we'll move all the bots over here soon [04:51] samiamsam they didn't do a migration at all [04:51] schestowitz let's see what a state freenode will be in when the unplanned, unannounced migration is done [04:51] samiamsam they just started a new server instance with no existing data [04:52] schestowitz OK, that's why some people DM me about cloaks [04:52] schestowitz mayeb their staff just wants to use all the same tools they used in some other network [04:53] schestowitz as they can barely operate what freenode had in place [04:53] schestowitz "We're so happy to welcome you and the millions of others." [04:53] schestowitz millions?! [04:53] MinceR yeah, lol [04:53] schestowitz their # of online users was almost falling below 50k already [04:53] MinceR peak was under 250k users, on QuakeNet, in 2005 [04:55] schestowitz OK, manual runs done now [04:56] schestowitz I will need to mere missing data tomorrow [04:56] schestowitz https://freenode.net/ [04:56] schestowitz latest is https://freenode.net/news/taking-irc-further [04:56] schestowitz not a word about a migration [04:57] schestowitz if freenode was a paid service, there would be many cancellations right now ● Jun 15 [05:01] schestowitz I am thinking whether to migrate some of the bots here already [05:01] schestowitz impulse says yes [05:01] *ursatempest (~ursatempe@180.248.120.119) has joined #techrights [05:01] *ursatempest (~ursatempe@180.248.120.119) has left #techrights ("WeeChat 3.1") [05:01] schestowitz but caution says not yet, as we barely even know what will come out from the other side [05:06] MinceR well, i expect the other side to remain turbulent for a while [05:08] *leah has quit (Quit: WeeChat 2.8) [05:09] schestowitz OK, seems one machine of mine got xchat format logs for this channel, so I can merge OK [05:09] *leah has quit (Quit: WeeChat 2.8) [05:11] schestowitz [02:52] schestowitz: I'll need a new registration code %). [05:11] schestowitz So you still need that? [05:16] schestowitz "Nickname registration for tr-bridge" is not current working on that network (I tried) [05:19] MinceR probably because it fails to send the verification email [05:19] MinceR because they can't even set that up properly [05:22] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 27.66 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 26.60 swarm size (avg): 245.57 [05:24] schestowitz yeah, I reckoned... [05:24] schestowitz anyway, tomorrow/today will be another wasteful day [05:25] schestowitz had we not relied on a third party to begin with, all that chaos would be spared [05:25] schestowitz hence the move away from all those other companies [05:26] MinceR ah, it works now [05:26] MinceR it can be resent via /quote nickserv resend [05:27] Ariadne schestowitz: just write freenode off as a loss, it's over [05:27] schestowitz the question is, what sort of exit strategy out of it... I suppose [05:27] Ariadne 04:27 -!- Your host is *.freenode.net, running version InspIRCd-3 [05:27] Ariadne wut [05:27] schestowitz or rather, lowering dependence on it [05:28] MinceR strange name for a server [05:28] Ariadne 04:27 -!- kodama.freenode.net *.freenode.net 0 freenode IRC [05:28] Ariadne i appear to be on kodama.freenode.net [05:28] Ariadne 04:27 -!- Current global users: 2305 Max: 2309 [05:28] Ariadne amazing [05:29] MinceR both of the other parts have more users than that :> [05:29] Ariadne 04:29 -!- #freenode You cannot send messages to this channel until you have been a member for 60 seconds. [05:29] Ariadne what the hell is this shit [05:30] MinceR the part with moon in it has 9089, the part with rinnegan (and old services) in it has 26157 [05:30] MinceR i guess they don't dare send all those users at inspircd yet :> [05:30] schestowitz let's wait until they're done doing whatever they do [05:30] MinceR that's probably some shiny new channel mode [05:32] schestowitz the server side logger is on rinnegan: http://techrights.org/irc/ [05:32] schestowitz all my machines are [05:32] schestowitz not sure if anything is actually happening on the other "portions" of freenode [05:32] schestowitz but then again things have been in flux like this for weeks [05:33] schestowitz I will take a break... [05:33] schestowitz finishing an EPO article... [05:33] MinceR there's some nick flood from a disgruntled user on #freenode on moon, not much else [05:33] MinceR phobos said he lost connection to moon a while ago [05:35] schestowitz no updates in the freenode site [05:35] schestowitz and I won't be checking "birdsite" for updates [05:35] MinceR :> [05:35] schestowitz "For some unknown reason, Ficsor's dalliance with the private sector didn't last very long less than a year in fact." [05:35] schestowitz the next part should be fun... ● Jun 15 [06:06] *Adran (adran@2600:3c00::17:8abf) has joined #techrights [06:06] *Adran is now known as Guest68920 [06:07] *Guest68920 has quit (Changing host) [06:07] *Guest68920 (adran@botters/staff/adran) has joined #techrights [06:10] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [06:10] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [06:11] *rianne_ (~rianne@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [06:12] *liberty_box (~liberty@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [06:21] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 26.06 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 49.68 swarm size (avg): 245.61 [06:34] *Guest68920 is now known as Adran [06:48] *gustaf has quit (Quit: WeeChat 2.8) [06:48] leah/fn CrystalMath: you sure that's wise? [06:48] leah/fn taking over #techrights [06:49] leah/fn i'd hand it over to roy when he gets here [06:49] leah/fn we need techrights on our side [06:50] leah/fn unless you're just holding it for him, in which case that's cool [06:51] CrystalMath/fn i was given this [06:51] CrystalMath/fn to give to roy [06:52] leah/fn ok cool [06:52] leah/fn yes, techrights is a very important organisation [06:54] CrystalMath/fn i didn't take it over at all, btw [06:55] leah/fn ok cool. i was a bit worried for a second there [06:55] CrystalMath/fn psymin had it, then transferred it to me for safe keeping [06:55] leah/fn i like roy. he's a great guy, and he does good stuff on his site [06:55] psymin/fn I ended up with ops on a lot of channels I idle in. Not sure how. Just auto-reconnected first or something [06:55] CrystalMath/fn i'm only keeping it for techrights [06:55] leah/fn psymin: you auto-joined [06:55] *psymin/fn nods. [06:55] leah/fn psymin: and the channels were likely epty [06:55] CrystalMath/fn leah: yep [06:56] leah/fn when you join an empty channel that is unregistered, you become op [06:56] leah/fn that's how you register channels on an irc network [06:56] CrystalMath/fn correct :) ● Jun 15 [07:01] leah/fn CrystalMath: you said earlier that you felt sorry for charybdis [07:02] leah/fn i've now learned that this is an ircd [07:02] leah/fn why do you feel sorry for it? [07:02] CrystalMath/fn because 13 years [07:02] leah/fn ? [07:02] CrystalMath/fn i've been connecting to it for 13 years [07:04] leah/fn anyway, i think for my ircd i'm going to use atheme+unrealircd [07:04] leah/fn though i wonder what this plexus+anope is all about [07:04] leah/fn why do freenode love it so much that they nuked their whole network for it? [07:04] CrystalMath inspircd [07:05] CrystalMath/fn i literally used the tr-bridge to find what the heck window i have this on [07:05] CrystalMath/fn it's not plexus it's inspircd [07:05] leah/fn CrystalMath: no, you said it was inspircd but you later told me it's plexus [07:05] CrystalMath/fn rizon is plexus [07:06] leah/fn ah [07:06] leah/fn ok [07:06] CrystalMath/fn freenode and snoonet are inspircd (rasengan confirmed) [07:06] schestowitz OK, I'm back [07:06] schestowitz freenode isn't back [07:07] leah/fn CrystalMath: roy is here [07:07] leah/fn give hi control of #techrights on freenode [07:07] CrystalMath/fn he's not here on freenode [07:07] CrystalMath/fn so how do i dothat? [07:07] CrystalMath/fn *do that [07:07] CrystalMath/fn he needs to register [07:07] CrystalMath/fn but first, connect.... [07:07] leah/fn schestowitz: freenode nuked their database and ircd, and started over. everyone has scrambled to re-register their nicks and chans [07:08] schestowitz lol [07:08] leah/fn CrystalMath is tolding #techrights for you, and will hand over founder status to you [07:08] schestowitz sounds like chaos [07:08] schestowitz they have not even migrated everyone yet to that same system [07:08] leah/fn it isn't chaos, it's fucking... well, chaos is orderly by comparison [07:08] CrystalMath schestowitz: it is possibly not happening [07:08] CrystalMath that is [07:08] CrystalMath a migration is not happening [07:08] leah/fn schestowitz they have migrated [07:08] schestowitz they might even revert back [07:08] leah/fn just do /reconnect on freenode [07:08] CrystalMath it seems to be final [07:08] schestowitz all my clients are still connected to the 'old' network [07:09] CrystalMath which will be shut down within 2 days [07:09] schestowitz should I reconnect [07:09] leah/fn ah, there's an IP address [07:09] CrystalMath give a nice fairwell to charybdis first [07:09] leah/fn 178.239.166.153 on port 6679 [07:09] *schestowitz has quit (Quit: Konversation term) [07:09] leah/fn let me check that [07:10] leah/fn have to be sure [07:10] CrystalMath/fn i need to go to sleep [07:10] schestowitz [07:09] [Info] Looking for server irc.freenode.net (port 8001)... [07:10] schestowitz [07:09] [Info] Server found, connecting... [07:10] schestowitz [07:10] [Error] Connection to server irc.freenode.net (port 8001) lost: Connection refused. [07:11] schestowitz great, well done, 'free'node [07:11] CrystalMath chat.freenode.net [07:11] schestowitz I'll try again when they settle their mess maybe? [07:11] leah/fn yep that's the right ip [07:11] CrystalMath it is quite possible that port 8001 will never work again [07:11] CrystalMath use 6697 [07:12] schestowitz they expect everyone to update all their config now? [07:12] leah/fn if chat.freenode.net doesn't yet take you to the new network, use 178.239.166.153 on port 6697 [07:12] leah/fn schestowitz don't worry, if you're joining the sae channels, your auto-join will work [07:13] *unoccupied (~unoccupied@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #techrights [07:13] unoccupied i'm leah [07:13] unoccupied i will confirm this on freenode [07:13] leah/fn confirmed [07:13] leah/fn schestowitz remember the issue i had the other day? [07:14] leah/fn where leah was already registered, to me, but i didn't register it. glitch in your ircd [07:14] leah/fn well now i can't switch to it. i've concluded that i shouldn't come to #techrights on freenode. i'll come to your self-hosted one [07:14] leah/fn can you drop leah for me? [07:14] leah/fn then i'll become leah on irc.techrights.org, and register it properly [07:15] CrystalMath/fn hi schestowitz [07:15] CrystalMath/fn please confirm that it's really you [07:15] CrystalMath/fn and register your nickname [07:15] schestowitz/fn wait [07:15] unoccupied schestowitz: put a duck on techrights.org [07:15] unoccupied like i did on libreboot.org [07:15] CrystalMath/fn no just say something on the techrights network [07:15] unoccupied nah [07:15] unoccupied duck [07:15] unoccupied do a duck! [07:16] unoccupied put a photo of a duck on the homepage of techrights [07:16] CrystalMath/fn register the nickname first [07:16] unoccupied i already got a parabola dev to do it on parabola.nu [07:16] psydroid [07:17] schestowitz/fn [07:17] [Info] You are now logged in as schestowitz. [07:17] unoccupied https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/51/Mandarin.duck.arp.jpg/1280px-Mandarin.duck.arp.jpg [07:18] psydroid so the bridge doesn't work or I need to reconnect [07:18] unoccupied i'm connected to the new freenode and i see the bridge [07:18] schestowitz are they not going to update their DNS? [07:18] schestowitz will they let all the old stuff be stale? [07:19] schestowitz if so, FN is done and finished [07:19] unoccupied they are updating it [07:19] schestowitz because many people won't reconfigure their clients [07:19] unoccupied some servers are still on the old FN [07:19] unoccupied they're in the middle of migrating [07:19] schestowitz no planning [07:19] schestowitz no announcement in their site [07:19] schestowitz total clusterfsck [07:19] unoccupied it's happening [07:20] unoccupied some servers in freenode are still on the old network [07:20] unoccupied the old network is going to be online for the next 2 days [07:20] schestowitz I will keep a laptop on the old network [07:20] unoccupied they're migrating all the servers over to the new server [07:20] schestowitz it looks like XRevan86 has already configured he bridge OK [07:20] CrystalMath/fn schestowitz: is this you? (confirm on tr) [07:20] schestowitz so I don't need to take action on the email [07:21] schestowitz it's me there and I registered [07:21] CrystalMath/fn very well then i will transfer the channel [07:21] schestowitz but seeing the way this was handled, I have low hopes for 'new' freenode [07:21] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 27.43 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 32.03 swarm size (avg): 245.64 [07:21] unoccupied no, you need to do what it says in the email the new freenode sends when registering [07:21] unoccupied it gives you a comand to type into irc [07:21] CrystalMath/fn done [07:21] schestowitz I was about to publish an articlea [07:21] schestowitz and now there's this IRC shuffle [07:22] unoccupied > newnode [07:22] schestowitz and the bots are out of the loop, with DNS still not set up right [07:22] unoccupied schestowitz: we were all caught off guard. i was tidying my lab [07:22] unoccupied moving equipment around (electronics lab) [07:22] schestowitz cool [07:22] CrystalMath schestowitz: you now own the freenode channel, thank you for flying freenode :) [07:22] unoccupied can you please drop leah on irc.techrights.org schestowitz ? [07:23] unoccupied i want to rename to it and register it, idk how i fucked it up a few days ago, but i did [07:23] unoccupied i'll confirm on freenode that i'm leah [07:23] leah/fn i'm leah [07:23] unoccupied now i'll update libreboot.org home page to show a fox instead of a duck [07:24] unoccupied done [07:24] unoccupied https://libreboot.org/fox.jpg [07:25] schestowitz question: [07:25] schestowitz since the bots are already out of the network amid transition [07:25] unoccupied i'm reconfiguring my irc client to auto-join and auto-login. i'd like to have a permanent presence on irc.techrights.org. then i will permanently leave the freenode channel [07:25] schestowitz should I just update them to come to this network instead? [07:26] unoccupied is that directed at me? [07:26] schestowitz anyone [07:26] schestowitz those bots are mostly out of the loop already [07:27] schestowitz if I rejoin them, I'd rather join them here [07:27] unoccupied i can see the bridge bot on the newnode channel [07:27] unoccupied the relay one [07:27] schestowitz yes, and the one for links [07:27] unoccupied wouldn't that just relay to fn anyway? [07:27] unoccupied if you want sovereignty over your operations, i'd say put it here, not fn [07:27] demon/fn part [07:29] schestowitz someone asks me why http://techrights.org/irc/ is out of date [07:29] schestowitz anyone? input? [07:29] schestowitz should we migrate the bots to here? [07:30] schestowitz it's not like freenode channels will be back to their 'old glory' [07:30] schestowitz (any time soon) [07:30] CrystalMath that is true [07:30] CrystalMath it will take time [07:30] schestowitz ok, I think that for now I can leave it as is [07:31] schestowitz let's see if I can rejoin some bots to the 'new' network [07:31] schestowitz actually, no, sod it... [07:31] schestowitz why even have the uncertainty [07:31] schestowitz I'll bring them here, except those that already landed on the new network [07:36] *TechrightsBot-tr has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [07:41] schestowitz if they had announced a migration, I would at least prepare [07:41] schestowitz instead I made 5 videos yesterday [07:41] schestowitz am falling well behind [07:41] schestowitz I'm bringing the bots here [07:41] schestowitz at least I can trust this network [07:42] unoccupied nevermind, i'm going to bed. i'll ask you to help get leah registered here later [07:42] unoccupied i'm pretty sure i registered leah here myself, but forget during some chaos, and forget the password [07:42] schestowitz we are not leaving FN, but we cannot rely much on it either [07:42] schestowitz I don't trust how they run it [07:42] unoccupied because the registration date coincides with me joining. but i'm exhausted so i'll be back later [07:43] unoccupied got something else to finish up [07:43] unoccupied schestowitz: sorry for the trouble btw. it's absolutely nuts what's going on [07:43] unoccupied i've been up all fucking night because of it all [07:43] schestowitz 3 bots migrated [07:43] schestowitz one more now.. [07:44] schestowitz some of us are not irc ops [07:44] schestowitz Ariadne has alpine [07:44] schestowitz I want to write about patents [07:44] schestowitz leah needs to do libreboot [07:44] unoccupied ah ok [07:44] schestowitz FN was supposed to look after all this stuff [07:44] unoccupied i need to do a lot more than libreboot [07:45] unoccupied sorry, i'll go back to fn. i don't want to use irc.techrights.org until i get leah registered reliably here [07:45] leah/fn schestowitz i'm really pissed off. they didn't need to nuke their ircd [07:45] leah/fn however, i will say, the staff have been helpful [07:45] *TechrightsBot-tr (~TR@ju4kayhrhsm6a.irc) has joined #techrights [07:45] TechrightsBot-tr Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 [07:45] schestowitz 4 done [07:45] leah/fn one of them PM'd me and helped me get all my channels re-registered [07:45] schestowitz on to ipfs [07:48] schestowitz [07:28] freenode in disarray, amid migration. another day with hours of wasted time. [07:48] schestowitz [07:28] http://techrights.org/irc/ [07:48] schestowitz [07:41] --> TechrightsBN (~b0t@ju4kayhrhsm6a.irc) has joined this channel. [07:48] schestowitz [07:41] Hello World! I'm TechrightsBN running phIRCe v0.75 [07:48] schestowitz [07:46] from the outside, it is looking like freenode is currently run by [07:48] schestowitz [07:46] people so unfamiliar with it as to be causing a lot of harm [07:48] schestowitz [07:46] -- mostly unintentionally -- at the same time they try to enact big [07:48] schestowitz [07:46] changes. They needed much more familiarity with the network first [07:48] schestowitz [07:46] and set themselves up for failure through ignorance (at best) [07:48] schestowitz [07:47] this assessment is very accurate. I've ported over the logger to the self-hosted network. The http ~/irc will soon have some recent logs [07:48] schestowitz [07:47] And, unfortunately, sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable [07:48] schestowitz [07:47] from malice. [07:50] *techrights-ipfs has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [07:51] kingoffrance 1) it'd be nice to have bots here, but thats just cuz i havent reconnected to freenode yet 2) duck-based authentication tokens are susceptible to known 100+year attacks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbit%E2%80%93duck_illusion [07:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Rabbitduck illusion - Wikipedia [07:54] kingoffrance well the bot works :) [07:54] schestowitz all 4 of them, for 4 channels... [07:55] schestowitz I will leave it at that for now [07:55] schestowitz the ipfs bot isn't as crucial [07:55] schestowitz the other ones were migrated across already, or bridged [07:57] schestowitz https://www.devever.net/~hl/freenode_suicide ● Jun 15 [08:08] schestowitz/fn the other freenode channels ended up owned by whoever entered them first [08:08] schestowitz/fn so I cannot even amend the topic [08:09] schestowitz/fn clap clap to freenode ... slow clap [08:09] schestowitz/fn so I need to chase people to permission to re-REGISTER my channels. LOL! Wait, my popcorn is ready.. [08:10] schestowitz [08:10] [Techrights-sec/tr] What is mind boggling is that little to no account was taken for working [08:10] schestowitz [08:10] [Techrights-sec/tr] /with/ the existing communities which have been around since decades back. [08:10] schestowitz [08:10] [Techrights-sec/tr] Instead the whole thing seems to be treated as a purely technical matter. [08:10] schestowitz [08:10] [Techrights-sec/tr] However the technological aspects of IRC are the least significant parts. [08:13] schestowitz psymin: can you give me op in the -social channel in FN? [08:14] schestowitz/fn people speak about risk of nick hijack [08:14] schestowitz/fn but not channel hijack [08:14] schestowitz/fn you need only be the first person to enter [08:14] schestowitz/fn and then register it [08:15] schestowitz/fn to own the channels, in "FREENODE"... channels that have been there for decades [08:16] CrystalMath/fn well the staff are fixing channel stuff [08:16] CrystalMath/fn but no need for #techrights [08:16] CrystalMath/fn it's yours [08:17] schestowitz/fn what channel staff are they fixing? [08:18] schestowitz/fn will they be migrating ops and topics and staff? [08:18] schestowitz/fn because I was about to do all this manually [08:18] schestowitz/fn and notice how they gave NO warning or advance notice [08:18] schestowitz/fn throwing many projects into disarray [08:18] schestowitz/fn without as much as a headsup [08:18] *isamiamsam has quit (*.net *.split) [08:18] *Old_Man has quit (*.net *.split) [08:22] CrystalMath/fn schestowitz: topics have to be moved manually [08:22] CrystalMath/fn sorry... i'm sad too, so many ancient topics that we've now lost forever [08:22] CrystalMath/fn so much history [08:24] schestowitz lol [08:24] schestowitz I use a stale session [08:24] schestowitz to still have access to the old topics [08:24] schestowitz otherwise you lose them. Sorry, I'm laughing out of frustration [08:25] schestowitz rianne just passed me ops in 3 cannels [08:25] schestowitz #boycottnovell-social is owned by psymin [08:25] schestowitz so I cannot even register it ^_^ [08:28] CrystalMath psymin will give it to you [08:28] schestowitz I've just registered and topic'ed all the other channels, except the one not owned by me :-) [08:29] CrystalMath nice [08:29] CrystalMath welcome techrights, to the post-great reset freenode :) [08:30] schestowitz we'll see how many people will still be online on that "post-great reset freenode" [08:31] CrystalMath/fn well, more than irc.techrights.org [08:31] CrystalMath/fn that's all i can say so far [08:35] psychicist/fn let me see if this works now [08:36] schestowitz/fn CrystalMath: we didn't urge people to move [08:36] schestowitz/fn but seeing how things go on at FN, some might choose on their own volition [08:36] schestowitz/fn FN is our gateway to tens of thousands of other IRC users [08:36] schestowitz/fn inc. key free software devs [08:37] psydroid for me Matrix isn't bridged to new freenode and I wonder if it will ever come back [08:37] schestowitz/fn probably will [08:37] schestowitz/fn DNS in flux still [08:37] schestowitz/fn I cannot enter some bots onto the new one [08:38] schestowitz/fn a morning wasted [08:39] schestowitz our IRC logging is now done on new FN, old FN, and localhost [08:39] schestowitz when it settles I'll pull the plug (in logging) on old FN [08:41] schestowitz/fn need op from psymin, register, add topic to -social [08:44] CrystalMath/fn apparently you can still log into old freenode by connecting to classic.freenode.net [08:45] CrystalMath/fn it's Freenode Classic [08:49] techrights-bot/fn Virtual Injustice Part 7: Musical Chairs and Revolving Doors http://techrights.org/2021/06/15/epo-revolving-doors/ #epo #europe #corruption #euipo #nepotism [08:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Virtual Injustice Part 7: Musical Chairs and Revolving Doors | Techrights [08:49] schestowitz/fn LOL [08:49] schestowitz/fn what's the point? [08:49] schestowitz/fn IRC is a protocol [08:49] schestowitz/fn and now a web site [08:51] *acer-box______ has quit (Quit: Konversation term) [08:55] schestowitz/fn *not [08:55] *rianne__ has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) [08:56] schestowitz fwiw, they'll lose tons of old-time users [08:56] schestowitz whose settings (address, port) are not compatible with either new or old [08:56] schestowitz they just cannot connect anymore ● Jun 15 [09:01] *Techrights-sec has quit (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.) [09:01] immibis schestowitz: just abandon FN [09:01] CrystalMath :( [09:04] immibis why is CrystalMath so attached to FN? [09:04] immibis it's just a name. [09:04] immibis literally nothing else has carried over. [09:04] schestowitz people on the network [09:04] immibis the majority of those people are now on libera as well or exclusively [09:05] immibis libera now has more users than freenode [09:05] immibis and much more chatting [09:05] immibis if you were attached to the people, that's where you'd mostly be [09:06] techrights-bot/fn Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152291 [09:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [09:07] techrights-bot/fn #Xilinx unveils Versal AI Edge SoCs http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152290 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [09:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Xilinx unveils Versal AI Edge SoCs | Tux Machines [09:08] techrights-bot/fn #Debian 11 "Bullseye" Installer RC2 Released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152292 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [09:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian 11 "Bullseye" Installer RC2 Released | Tux Machines [09:09] techrights-bot/fn #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152293 #Linux #TuxMachines [09:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [09:09] schestowitz I cannot even connect to FN at all from several machines [09:10] schestowitz it's like FN staff is doing D-R exercise on their live/production systems [09:10] techrights-bot/fn #RHEL and CentOS 7 Users Get New Kernel Security Update to Fix Intel Graphics Flaws http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152294 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [09:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | RHEL and CentOS 7 Users Get New Kernel Security Update to Fix Intel Graphics Flaws | Tux Machines [09:12] techrights-bot/fn #Techrights Bulletin for Monday, June 14, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [09:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives [09:12] techrights-bot/fn #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [09:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index [09:15] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #uniToronto How we're dealing with our expiring #OpenVPN TLS root certificate https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/sysadmin/OpenVPNTLSRootExpirySolution [09:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-utcc.utoronto.ca | Chris's Wiki :: blog/sysadmin/OpenVPNTLSRootExpirySolution [09:18] techrights-bot/fn #freenode took the mask off. And then it found out about #covid19 ... I don't think the intent is malicious, but the effect is devastating to #freesw groups/orgs/projects that depend on them; it's like FN staff is doing D-R exercise on their live/production systems [09:19] *sbp has quit (Changing host) [09:19] *sbp (~sbp@apache/doge/sbp) has joined #techrights [09:20] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #TheVerge #OpenHardware Doom now runs on an Ikea smart light bulb https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/14/22533512/doom-ikea-tradfri-smart-light-bulb-hack [09:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Doom now runs on an Ikea smart light bulb - The Verge [09:21] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #BunnieHuang #OpenHardware Upgrading Precursors TRNG https://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=6094 [09:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bunniestudios.com | Upgrading Precursors TRNG bunnie's blog [09:21] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #TomsHardware #OpenHardware Hex-Shaped #RaspberryPi RP2040 PCB Powers Palm-Sized Robot https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-rp2040-hex-robot-pcb [09:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tomshardware.com | Hex-Shaped Raspberry Pi RP2040 PCB Powers Palm-Sized Robot | Tom's Hardware [09:22] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #uniToronto #Programming A strong commitment to backwards compatibility means keeping your mistakes https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/tech/MistakesAndBackwardCompatibility [09:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-utcc.utoronto.ca | Chris's Wiki :: blog/tech/MistakesAndBackwardCompatibility [09:24] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #TroyHunt #ProprietarySoftware Welcoming the Finnish Government to Have I Been Pwned https://www.troyhunt.com/welcoming-the-finnish-government-to-have-i-been-pwned/ [09:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.troyhunt.com | Troy Hunt: Welcoming the Finnish Government to Have I Been Pwned [09:25] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #Of0x #ProprietarySoftware Don't use commands, use code: the tale of Netsh & PortProxy https://adepts.of0x.cc/netsh-portproxy-code/ [09:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-adepts.of0x.cc | Don't use commands, use code: the tale of Netsh & PortProxy - Adepts of 0xCC [09:25] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #TheHill #ProprietarySoftware Teamsters refused to pay a #ransomware attack in 2019 https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/558066-teamsters-refused-to-pay-a-ransomware-attack-in-2019 [09:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Teamsters refused to pay a ransomware attack in 2019 | TheHill [09:26] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #NBC #ProprietarySoftware #Ransomware attack hit Teamsters in 2019 but they refused to pay https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/ransomware-attack-hit-teamsters-2019-they-refused-pay-n1270461 [09:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | Ransomware attack hit Teamsters in 2019 but they refused to pay [09:27] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #Bloomberg #Privacy #Surveillance #Facebook Should Be Broken Up, Silicon Valley Democrat Says https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-06-14/facebook-should-be-broken-up-silicon-valley-democrat-says [09:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot? [09:30] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #PatrickBreyer #Privacy #Surveillance #CHATCONTROL Vote Scheduled: Last Chance To Act https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/chatcontrol-vote-scheduled-last-chance-to-act/ [09:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patrick-breyer.de | #Chatcontrol vote scheduled: Last chance to act Patrick Breyer [09:31] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #BruceSchneier #Privacy #Surveillance #TikTok Can Now Collect Biometric Data https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2021/06/tiktok-can-now-collect-biometric-data.html [09:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-TikTok Can Now Collect Biometric Data - Schneier on Security [09:31] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #AINews #Privacy #Surveillance McDonalds drive-thru AI bot may have broken #privacy law https://artificialintelligence-news.com/2021/06/11/mcdonalds-drive-thru-ai-bot-may-broken-privacy-law/ [09:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Empty reply from server ( status 0 @ https://artificialintelligence-news.com/2021/06/11/mcdonalds-drive-thru-ai-bot-may-broken-privacy-law/ ) [09:32] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #NewYorkTimes #Privacy #Surveillance Hunting Leaks, Trump Officials Focused on Democrats in Congress https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/10/us/politics/justice-department-leaks-trump-administration.html [09:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Hunting Leaks, Trump D.O.J. Officials Seized Records of Democrats - The New York Times [09:55] *wallacer has quit (Quit: wallace dozed off) [09:59] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Always read both sides of the story - http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/lee-side.pdf) [09:59] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving) [09:59] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #Devever I have now been banned from Freenode https://www.devever.net/~hl/freenode_kline ● Jun 15 [10:02] *libertybox has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) [10:02] *acer-box______ (~acer-box@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:9ed2:1eff:feb6:a8e1) has joined #techrights [10:02] *asusbox (~rianne@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:f203:8cff:fe93:1f55) has joined #techrights [10:02] -NickServ-acer-box______!~acer-box@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:9ed2:1eff:feb6:a8e1 has just authenticated as you (schestowitz) [10:02] *acer-box______ has quit (Changing host) [10:02] *acer-box______ (~acer-box@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights [10:02] *libertybox (~schestowi@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:9ed2:1eff:feb6:a8e1) has joined #techrights [10:23] techrights-bot/fn National Government and Local Councils Give the Middle Finger to EU Citizens Long Settled in the United Kingdom [10:23] techrights-bot/fn National Government and Local Councils Give the Middle Finger to EU Citizens Long Settled in the United Kingdom http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/06/15/brexit-systemic-racism/ #uk #eu #brexit #racism #homeoffice [10:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com Blog Archive National Government and Local Councils Give the Middle Finger to EU Citizens Long Settled in the United Kingdom [10:25] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #BroadbandBreakfast #Monopolies New Antitrust Bills, NYs $15 Broadband Blocked, Trumps Subpoena to Apple https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2021/06/new-antitrust-bills-nys-15-broadband-blocked-trumps-subpoena-to-apple/ [10:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-broadbandbreakfast.com | New Antitrust Bills, NY's $15 Broadband Blocked, Trump's Subpoena to Apple : Broadband Breakfast [10:26] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #BillBC US lawmakers introduce bills targeting #BigTech https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-57450345 iophk: Omission of #Microsoft from #antitrust investigations seems intentional by well-placed minions [10:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-US lawmakers introduce bills targeting Big Tech - BBC News [10:48] techrights-bot/fn TIL that some places in town where you want to have a simple little meal require that you have 1) a "phone" and 2) an "NHS app" [10:49] techrights-bot/fn To make matters yet worse, some places would not serve you here in #manchester anymore unless you 1) carry around a tracking device ("phone") and 2) install THEIR "app". Yes, with your email, address, name and all... even just to order to a little item like coffee [10:49] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #Medium #copyright #copyrights Preparing Bulgarian GLAMs for the #EU #Copyright Reform https://medium.com/creative-commons-we-like-to-share/preparing-bulgarian-glams-for-the-eu-copyright-reform-581cbfb3f757 [10:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Preparing Bulgarian GLAMs for the EU Copyright Reform | by Ana Lazarova | Creative Commons: We Like to Share | Medium [10:50] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #RaspberryPi #RasPi #GNU #Linux Meet Katt Strike: Musician, producer, and Twitch streamer https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/meet-katt-strike-musician-producer-and-twitch-streamer/ [10:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.raspberrypi.org | Meet Katt Strike: Musician, producer, and Twitch streamer - Raspberry Pi [10:52] techrights-bot/fn Cross pollination in #Alicante and #Munich serves to show that people arent picked for their skills and experience; its like a private club or a clique http://techrights.org/2021/06/15/epo-revolving-doors/ #epo #euipo #corruption [10:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Virtual Injustice Part 7: Musical Chairs and Revolving Doors | Techrights [10:52] techrights-bot/fn #IRC Proceedings: Monday, June 14, 2021 http://techrights.org/2021/06/15/irc-log-140621/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/15/irc-log-140621/ [10:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Monday, June 14, 2021 | Techrights ● Jun 15 [11:06] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #Tor New stable #security releases: 0.3.5.15, 0.4.4.9, 0.4.5.9, 0.4.6.5 https://blog.torproject.org/node/2041 [11:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.torproject.org | New stable security releases: 0.3.5.15, 0.4.4.9, 0.4.5.9, 0.4.6.5 | Tor Blog [11:06] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:09] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [11:21] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@jiz967bhsgr6i.irc) has joined #techrights [11:24] schestowitz/fn x https://securityboulevard.com/2021/06/who-us-linux-root-bug-quietly-added-7-years-ago/ [11:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://securityboulevard.com/2021/06/who-us-linux-root-bug-quietly-added-7-years-ago/ ) [11:24] schestowitz/fn # M$ boosters call systemd "linux" [11:30] techrights-bot/fn A mythology I disagree with: "DO NOT SELF-HOST!!! It's a liability. What if it breaks down and you don't know how to fix it?" Counter-point: what if you outsource to a company that decides to completely shut down the service? Or it breaks and you cannot fix it; neither can they. Then what? [11:31] Ariadne schestowitz: the overwhelming majority of the DALnet #linux crowd (i think you came over to freenode at around same time i did) are all on libera now [11:31] techrights-bot/fn "Moglen isn't known for his moderate stances on digital freedom issues. He's described Steve Jobs as a "moral monster" and called Mark Zuckerberg "a little thug in a hooded sweatshirt" who "has done more harm to the human race than anyone his age."" https://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2012/06/26/eben-moglen-time-to-apply-the-first-law-of-robotics-to-our-smartphones/ [11:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | Eben Moglen: Time To Apply The First Law Of Robotics To Our Smartphones [11:31] techrights-bot/fn #facebook is expensive https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamtanner/2013/08/28/the-man-who-would-not-use-facebook-for-anything-less-than-a-million-dollars/ [11:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | The Man Who Would Not Use Facebook For Anything Less Than A Million Dollars [11:32] Ariadne i will admit, gladly, that the previous incarnation of freenode before andrew lee took it over had its flaws, but the libera team have understood that as well and have made an effort to address those flaws [11:33] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #MichaelGeist #Copyright The Law Bytes Podcast, Episode 92: A Conversation with Senator Paula Simons on Copyright, the Internet and the Future of Media in Canada https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2021/06/law-bytes-podcast-episode-92/ [11:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.michaelgeist.ca | The Law Bytes Podcast, Episode 92: A Conversation with Senator Paula Simons on Copyright, the Internet and the Future of Media in Canada - Michael Geist [11:33] *Techrights-sec has quit (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. 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Doing so gives us an app known as #Lookatme ." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkIweDviGH8 [12:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-LookAtMe: Dead Simple Markdown Slideshows - YouTube [12:01] *Noisytoot (noisytoot@fsf/member/Noisytoot) has joined #techrights [12:02] techrights-bot/fn The new trailer for One Lonely Outpost has me hyped for this sci-fi farming game | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/the-new-trailer-for-one-lonely-outpost-has-me-hyped-for-this-sci-fi-farming-game #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/15/#latest [12:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The new trailer for One Lonely Outpost has me hyped for this sci-fi farming game | GamingOnLinux [12:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [12:02] techrights-bot/fn #FreeSW Settlers II inspired strategy game Widelands 1.0 is out now | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/free-and-open-source-settlers-ii-inspired-strategy-game-widelands-10-is-out-now #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/15/#latest [12:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Free and open source Settlers II inspired strategy game Widelands 1.0 is out now | GamingOnLinux [12:08] techrights-bot/fn #LateNightLinux Episode 129 https://latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-129/ #gnu #linux [12:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-latenightlinux.com | Late Night Linux Episode 129 Late Night Linux [12:08] techrights-bot/fn #Zink : Summer 2021 updatep http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152297 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Zink: Summer 2021 updatep | Tux Machines [12:14] *job has quit (connection closed) [12:15] *job (~job@42cscff4sp33s.irc) has joined #techrights [12:18] techrights-bot/fn #Intel M.2 Modem Driver "IOSM" Queued Ahead Of Linux 5.14 - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-M.2-Modem-Linux-5.14 #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/15/#latest [12:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel M.2 Modem Driver "IOSM" Queued Ahead Of Linux 5.14 - Phoronix [12:22] techrights-bot/fn #microsoft proxy #infosys https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/15/india_etax_portal_fail/ [12:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Indian government reverts to manual tax filings as new e-tax portal remains badly borked a week after launch The Register [12:24] techrights-bot/fn False dichotomy. Use #freesw instead. Stop outsourcing everything to Pentagon-connected #surveillance and #ProprietarySoftware monoliths. https://www.techradar.com/news/google-workspace-is-getting-a-major-upgrade-to-rival-microsoft-365 [12:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google Workspace is getting a major upgrade to rival Microsoft 365 | TechRadar [12:24] XRevan86 schestowitz: The bridge isn't registered there now. [12:25] techrights-bot/fn "Her attorney Alison Allen announced Winner, 29, had been let out on Monday early due to "exemplary" behavior while inside." https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/14/reality_winner_released/ [12:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Ex-NSA leaker Reality Winner released from prison early for 'exemplary' behavior The Register [12:28] techrights-bot/fn Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152298 [12:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [12:28] techrights-bot/fn Audiocasts/Shows: Secure Shell, Late Night Linux, LookAtMe, and Destination Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152299 [12:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: Secure Shell, Late Night Linux, LookAtMe, and Destination Linux | Tux Machines [12:29] techrights-bot/fn Intel: Infrastructure Processing Unit (IPU), IOSM (IPC over Shared Memory), and Firmware-Based Scheduling http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152300 [12:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Intel: Infrastructure Processing Unit (IPU), IOSM (IPC over Shared Memory), and Firmware-Based Scheduling | Tux Machines [12:32] schestowitz XRevan86: that's OK [12:32] schestowitz there is nothing to bridge really [12:32] schestowitz not from there to here anyway, nobody speaks there [12:32] schestowitz last was 7am ipfs quip [12:32] schestowitz I'm not sure what algo decides which client/host goes to which network [12:33] XRevan86 schestowitz: I did say that having a presence on LC would be helpful long-term. [12:33] schestowitz but it diverts people to separate islands, new and old [12:33] schestowitz it's like a day-long netsplit LOL [12:33] XRevan86 now we're caught up in this with only the self-hosted server as a survival strategy [12:33] schestowitz No, LC is picking a second master [12:33] schestowitz one is already too much [12:34] schestowitz self-hosted isn't survival strategy but survival [12:34] schestowitz one day libera.chat will die [12:34] schestowitz for sure [12:34] XRevan86 schestowitz: The Bredor Escobar axiom is not realistic here. [12:34] schestowitz the question is, when [12:34] XRevan86 schestowitz: Decades later? [12:34] schestowitz same for Twitter, Facebook, Windows... [12:34] schestowitz it's only months old [12:34] schestowitz it's young [12:34] XRevan86 schestowitz: freenode is younger! [12:34] XRevan86 that's the problem [12:34] schestowitz not much brand awareness and most IRC clients still point to freenode [12:35] schestowitz "new" freenode is younger [12:35] schestowitz but it controls the DNS [12:35] XRevan86 schestowitz: Who even gives a crap about this brand anymore? [12:35] XRevan86 All the new users I've seen actually come to Libera. [12:35] XRevan86 because they see where the projects are and go there [12:36] schestowitz we will never need to move again, until/unless icann/dns disbands as a 'thing' [12:36] XRevan86 that's where the "brand awareness" actually is [12:36] schestowitz and nobody is left to maintain such a legacy infra of the Net [12:36] schestowitz [12:35] schestowitz: Who even gives a crap about this brand anymore? [12:36] XRevan86 freenode is just another old fringe network. [12:36] schestowitz people who have long followed this site, over FREENODE [12:36] immibis so quite soon then. Google will take over DNS in Chrome and the rest of the internet will follow [12:36] schestowitz and their software is wired to Freenode [12:37] XRevan86 schestowitz: And they're probably regretting that right now. [12:37] schestowitz immibis: that's a real thing, not just google [12:37] schestowitz remember FB with zero-rating [12:37] schestowitz like, PAY for IRC... FB is 'free' [12:37] XRevan86 schestowitz: And a lot of them would've rejoined on the big network. They probably just don't want to bother with self-hosted IRC. [12:38] schestowitz I don't have any control or grip on freenode [12:38] schestowitz though I seem to have convinced them to delete github [12:38] schestowitz which is a big step, for us as a Web site [12:38] schestowitz XRevan86: if they won't reconfig their IRC for this, then they won't for LC either [12:38] XRevan86 schestowitz: They probably already have for LC. [12:39] schestowitz freenode has a business interest in fixing their pooped-up bed now [12:39] schestowitz we do not want MORE masters [12:39] schestowitz no way [12:39] schestowitz lessons learned [12:39] schestowitz it's not about brands [12:39] schestowitz topology isn't a brand [12:40] schestowitz we need DNS-level control over our comms channel, which is also used for collaboration and other things [12:40] XRevan86 schestowitz: For some reason "with more masters" this would've been a lot less painful. [12:40] schestowitz back in 2008 we were a lot smalle [12:40] XRevan86 a lot less [12:40] schestowitz freenode was good enough and generally worked ok until this april [12:40] schestowitz in april people told me people who now run LC were censoring them [12:40] schestowitz for things that they should NOT be censored for [12:41] schestowitz those people must have zero (or less) control over our operation, publication etc. [12:41] schestowitz [12:40] schestowitz: For some reason "with more masters" this would've been a lot less painful. [12:41] schestowitz That's a short run thing [12:41] schestowitz Google_ [12:41] schestowitz Google+, Google Photos... [12:41] schestowitz how did that "ease" work out for them? [12:41] XRevan86 schestowitz: Which one is freenode in here? [12:42] schestowitz IRC has long been out backup plan [12:42] schestowitz for archiving indenti.ca for instance [12:42] XRevan86 Did MySpace wipe the social network when re-orienting on music? [12:42] schestowitz IRC, however, was not controlled by us, not directly anyway [12:42] schestowitz MySpace is shit with a web interface [12:42] schestowitz Digg is gone [12:42] schestowitz Twitter will be next [12:42] schestowitz they struggle [12:43] XRevan86 schestowitz: Yea, but then there's no need for any of that, the sensible course of action is to double down and migrate fullt to self-hosting. [12:43] schestowitz ok [12:43] schestowitz so we agree [12:43] schestowitz even rms generally agreed, but he already was stressed enough over other issues [12:43] schestowitz like Twitter being proprietary JS-only [12:43] schestowitz and they are still maintaining presence there [12:44] XRevan86 schestowitz: My point is that if techrights wants a connection to a big network, it should be Libera, not freenode. If not, then not. [12:44] schestowitz no [12:44] schestowitz because we were never on LC [12:44] schestowitz and don't intend to stretch to YET ANOTHER network :-) [12:44] schestowitz one is already too much [12:44] XRevan86 schestowitz: Not for legacy purposes, for discoverability, Matrix integration and such. [12:44] schestowitz and many people are on that one [12:44] schestowitz people don't need to discover us that way [12:44] schestowitz it might even attract hostile voices [12:45] schestowitz afaik, matrix bridges will be restored to FN [12:45] XRevan86 schestowitz: freenode is a big mess that should be avoided. [12:46] schestowitz it's getting worse there [12:46] XRevan86 and it's not a personal opinion, and so this can affect choices other people make [12:46] schestowitz FN was seemingly stabilising a week ago [12:46] schestowitz LC is never the solution [12:46] schestowitz it's opening up to another source of mischief [12:46] XRevan86 schestowitz: So far it's the only solution for those who don't want or cannot self-host. [12:47] XRevan86 And because of that, they have already won. [12:47] techrights-bot/fn First KDE Plasma 5.22 Point Release Improves the Wayland Session for NVIDIA/AMD Systems http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152301 [12:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | First KDE Plasma 5.22 Point Release Improves the Wayland Session for NVIDIA/AMD Systems | Tux Machines [12:47] XRevan86 Libera *is* the biggest network and took the old freenode's place. [12:48] techrights-bot/fn " IBM's problem is (still) decades later summed up by this old quote: #IBM : You can buy better, but you can't pay more." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1blNh40h#replies [12:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | WHY IBM IS SUING GLOBALFOUNDRIES OVER CHIP ROADMAP FAILURES???? - post regarding IBM layoffs [12:49] schestowitz it is not about size [12:49] schestowitz sorry if my text may seem rude [12:49] schestowitz it's not, that's just irc's nature [12:50] techrights-bot/fn "I was awarded Golden Circle one day and RA'ed the next. True story. POS company." #ibm #layoffs https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bjfb0lj#replies [12:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Best of IBM - post regarding IBM layoffs [12:51] XRevan86 schestowitz: The way I see it, there was a reason why freenode got so big over everything else, and the same forces now got Libera up top. [12:51] schestowitz doesn't matter [12:51] schestowitz we don't shop from scratch [12:51] schestowitz we are on freenode [12:51] schestowitz we did not leave [12:51] schestowitz and so most people are not on FN:#techrights [12:51] schestowitz *now [12:52] techrights-bot/fn "Self plug: I wrote a tool to generate Markdown from Gemtext. From Markdown you can generate HTML with dozens of different tools." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006698.html #geminiprotocol #Markdown #internet #www [12:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | A good way to generate HTML Pages from a static site [12:53] schestowitz XRevan86: you also wrongly assume, I think, that we need quantity [12:53] schestowitz we don't [12:53] schestowitz some quality of the stuff here, like Ryan's mindless rantings about blacks and what "Mandy" did, is mostly worthless to us [12:53] schestowitz and it's wasting effort [12:54] XRevan86 schestowitz: Not quantity, but I don't want people leave for network disagreement issues. [12:54] schestowitz worse yet, some of those racist rants are being weaponsised against us [12:55] schestowitz so my point is, ok... I have several points: [12:55] schestowitz 1. we need operation privacy where needed [12:55] schestowitz (we are very transparency, but we don't want people passing passwords around on a network of "Team cancel RMS") [12:55] schestowitz 2. we need fewer trolls [12:56] XRevan86 schestowitz: DaemonFC is a categorical person. [12:56] schestowitz (without kicking them out, being small and less discoverable can help) [12:57] schestowitz there are other points I can think of [12:57] schestowitz and I appreciate greatly your open debate about it [12:57] schestowitz I assume LC:#techrights is doing [12:57] schestowitz t*dying [12:57] schestowitz to which I'd say, good [12:57] schestowitz because it has nothing to do with us [12:58] schestowitz maybe some people are there, but no talk [12:58] XRevan86 I haven't checked there, it has no value to me unbridged. [12:58] schestowitz retaining people who actually care about techrights is more important than attracting new time wasters, who maybe never heard about techrights or just look to pester [12:59] XRevan86 schestowitz: superkuh disappeared [12:59] schestowitz if it got two-way bridged, there would be "value" maybe... or something to ignire talk [12:59] schestowitz but that's not what we want [12:59] schestowitz keeping things in one place is ideal, esp. if you control that place and people are not scattered around elsewhere ● Jun 15 [13:00] schestowitz if FN self-nukes, which doesn't seem unthinkable anymore, we'll be OK [13:00] XRevan86 I have to admit, this place is in a better shape than yesterday. [13:01] XRevan86 more people, more bots [13:01] schestowitz s/n ratio-wise? [13:01] schestowitz idling users aren't the real yardstick, or number of lines for that matter [13:02] XRevan86 schestowitz: Having TechrightsBot-tr over there wasn't as good, as it uses NOTICEs and colours. [13:02] schestowitz does freenode have a timeline for their 'maintenance' now [13:02] schestowitz or does one have to follow #freenode channel noise and birdsite noise? [13:03] schestowitz Their Web site says nothing about this mess [13:03] schestowitz https://freenode.net/ [13:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freenode.net | freenode [13:03] schestowitz last update a week ago [13:03] schestowitz as if nothing happened since [13:03] XRevan86 schestowitz: Are they planning something else to do? Or do ye mean like when everyone will reconnect to inspircd? [13:04] XRevan86 schestowitz: Ye did get the re-registration email for tr-bridge, right? [13:04] schestowitz how many are on inspircd now? [13:04] schestowitz I think the server says if I reconnect to it [13:04] schestowitz I did get it, tried running it [13:04] schestowitz didn't work [13:05] schestowitz which network is it for, old or new? [13:05] XRevan86 schestowitz: new [13:05] schestowitz NickServ- Invalid passcode. [13:05] schestowitz isn't it already there and registered? [13:05] XRevan86 schestowitz: It's not [13:06] schestowitz You have requested to register the nickname tr-bridge on freenode. [13:06] schestowitz Please type " /msg NickServ CONFIRM xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx " to complete registration. [13:06] schestowitz If you don't know why this mail was sent to you, please ignore it silently. [13:06] XRevan86 schestowitz: I'll bring down the bridge and try again, send me the code in PM when it comes. [13:07] schestowitz ok [13:07] *bridge has quit (connection closed) [13:07] schestowitz oh, wait [13:08] schestowitz maybe you need to enter it from your bot [13:08] schestowitz so I just need to pass you that pw? [13:08] XRevan86 schestowitz: Yea, send the code. [13:08] schestowitz the old one? [13:08] XRevan86 schestowitz: Yea, it's still valid turns out. [13:09] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [13:10] *bridge (~bridge@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #techrights [13:10] *irc.techrights.org gives channel operator status to bridge [13:10] XRevan86 Is it working? [13:10] schestowitz seems so [13:10] schestowitz it got op now [13:10] schestowitz depending on what happens next with FN, I'll decide which bot goes where [13:11] schestowitz at the moment FN is almost just an echo of this as most users are still on old/classic [13:11] XRevan86 schestowitz: Well, it doesn't need op over there, no PRIVMSG (unless there is?) [13:11] schestowitz not our fault [13:11] schestowitz FN's fault [13:12] *bridge has quit (connection closed) [13:12] *tr-bridge (~tr-bridge@meowr.ru) has joined #techrights [13:12] *bridge (~bridge@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #techrights [13:12] *irc.techrights.org gives channel operator status to bridge [13:13] XRevan86 * RELAYMSG [13:13] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] * RELAYMSG [13:14] *phebus has quit (Quit: POKE 1,0) [13:16] XRevan86 schestowitz: I plugged it in classic. too now [13:16] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: I plugged it in classic. too now [13:16] schestowitz thanks [13:16] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] thanks [13:16] schestowitz now that much happens there at the moment [13:16] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] now that much happens there at the moment [13:16] schestowitz also, xchat logs from several networks [13:16] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] also, xchat logs from several networks [13:17] schestowitz so for now, with the bots, there will be duplicates [13:17] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] so for now, with the bots, there will be duplicates [13:17] schestowitz I think it's worthwhile keeping until they decommission the "old"/"classic" [13:17] tr-bridge I think it's worthwhile keeping until they decommission the "old"/"classic" [13:17] XRevan86 schestowitz: Or until everyone reconnects. [13:17] tr-bridge schestowitz: Or until everyone reconnects. [13:18] schestowitz no, that's not true [13:18] tr-bridge no, that's not true [13:18] schestowitz even if you reconnect, it doesn't always go to new [13:18] tr-bridge even if you reconnect, it doesn't always go to new [13:18] schestowitz several machines in same household are sent in different directions [13:18] tr-bridge several machines in same household are sent in different directions [13:18] schestowitz maybe based on nick [13:18] tr-bridge maybe based on nick [13:18] XRevan86 schestowitz: Can one go back from new to old with a reconnect? [13:18] tr-bridge schestowitz: Can one go back from new to old with a reconnect? [13:18] *Techrights-sec has quit (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.) [13:19] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:9ed2:1eff:feb6:a8e1) has joined #techrights [13:19] schestowitz yes, but different domain maybe [13:19] tr-bridge yes, but different domain maybe [13:19] schestowitz like classic.* [13:19] tr-bridge like classic.* [13:19] schestowitz so far it rolls over for me just from old to new, but never consistently [13:19] tr-bridge so far it rolls over for me just from old to new, but never consistently [13:20] schestowitz maybe they try to limit the number of users on new as they scale up and convert old servers to the new build [13:20] tr-bridge maybe they try to limit the number of users on new as they scale up and convert old servers to the new build [13:29] *phobos_anomaly has quit (Quit: Leaving) [13:30] tr-bridge NEWS #CommonDreams #RealityWinner Reality Winner's Release From Federal Prison Met With Calls for Full Pardon for the #NSA #Whistleblower https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/06/14/reality-winners-release-federal-prison-met-calls-full-pardon-nsa-whistleblower [13:30] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #CommonDreams #RealityWinner Reality Winner's Release From Federal Prison Met With Calls for Full Pardon for the #NSA #Whistleblower https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/06/14/reality-winners-release-federal-prison-met-calls-full-pardon-nsa-whistleblower [13:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Reality Winner's Release From Federal Prison Met With Calls for Full Pardon for the NSA Whistleblower | Common Dreams News [13:30] -tr-bridge/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Reality Winner's Release From Federal Prison Met With Calls for Full Pardon for the NSA Whistleblower | Common Dreams News [13:38] tr-bridge the server I'm connecting to says ~3400 max connections allowed and nearly every freenode server in my list is either offline, refusing connections, or is new ircd software... they've been busy during the night [13:38] saint_dogbert/fn the server I'm connecting to says ~3400 max connections allowed and nearly every freenode server in my list is either offline, refusing connections, or is new ircd software... they've been busy during the night [13:41] schestowitz hence I wait [13:41] tr-bridge hence I wait [13:41] schestowitz we need a better grasp of what's going on [13:41] tr-bridge we need a better grasp of what's going on [13:41] schestowitz freenode.org the site said nothing in a week... [13:41] tr-bridge freenode.org the site said nothing in a week... [13:41] schestowitz or .net [13:41] tr-bridge or .net [13:42] tr-bridge #Security and Proprietary Junk http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152302 [13:42] techrights-bot/fn #Security and Proprietary Junk http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152302 [13:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security and Proprietary Junk | Tux Machines [13:42] -tr-bridge/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security and Proprietary Junk | Tux Machines [13:47] tr-bridge Blight looks like a challenging top-down survival game worth keeping an eye on | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/blight-looks-like-a-challenging-top-down-survival-game-worth-keeping-an-eye-on #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/15/#latest [13:47] techrights-bot/fn Blight looks like a challenging top-down survival game worth keeping an eye on | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/blight-looks-like-a-challenging-top-down-survival-game-worth-keeping-an-eye-on #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/15/#latest [13:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Blight looks like a challenging top-down survival game worth keeping an eye on | GamingOnLinux [13:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [13:47] -tr-bridge/#techrights-Blight looks like a challenging top-down survival game worth keeping an eye on | GamingOnLinux [13:47] -tr-bridge/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [13:51] tr-bridge SOQuartz is a #RaspberryPi CM4 compatible SoM powered by Rockchip RK3566 SoC - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/06/15/soquartz-raspberry-pi-cm4-compatible-som-rockchip-rk3566/ #Linux #GNU #Hardware #cnxsoftware [13:51] techrights-bot/fn SOQuartz is a #RaspberryPi CM4 compatible SoM powered by Rockchip RK3566 SoC - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/06/15/soquartz-raspberry-pi-cm4-compatible-som-rockchip-rk3566/ #Linux #GNU #Hardware #cnxsoftware [13:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | SOQuartz is a Raspberry Pi CM4 compatible SoM powered by Rockchip RK3566 SoC - CNX Software [13:51] -tr-bridge/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | SOQuartz is a Raspberry Pi CM4 compatible SoM powered by Rockchip RK3566 SoC - CNX Software [13:58] tr-bridge #Games : One Lonely Outpost, Widelands, and Blight http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152303 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [13:58] techrights-bot/fn #Games : One Lonely Outpost, Widelands, and Blight http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152303 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [13:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: One Lonely Outpost, Widelands, and Blight | Tux Machines [13:58] -tr-bridge/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: One Lonely Outpost, Widelands, and Blight | Tux Machines [13:58] tr-bridge #OpenHardware: SOQuartz, Trdfri, and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152304 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [13:58] techrights-bot/fn #OpenHardware: SOQuartz, Trdfri, and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152304 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [13:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware: SOQuartz, Trdfri, and More | Tux Machines [13:58] -tr-bridge/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware: SOQuartz, Trdfri, and More | Tux Machines [13:59] immibis schestowitz: what is wrong with "everything is shit"? [13:59] tr-bridge schestowitz: what is wrong with "everything is shit"? ● Jun 15 [14:00] tr-bridge ? [14:00] schestowitz/fn ? [14:03] *Adran has quit (Quit: Este o fim.) [14:07] tr-bridge Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152305 [14:07] techrights-bot/fn Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152305 [14:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines [14:07] -tr-bridge/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines [14:10] tr-bridge #Freenode has not made a statement in its Web site for nearly a week. That sort of unofficial silence isn't inspiring confidence. https://blog.sergiodj.net/2021/06/14/i-am-not-on-freenode-anymore.html [14:10] techrights-bot/fn #Freenode has not made a statement in its Web site for nearly a week. That sort of unofficial silence isn't inspiring confidence. https://blog.sergiodj.net/2021/06/14/i-am-not-on-freenode-anymore.html [14:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.sergiodj.net | Yet Another Me - I am not on Freenode anymore [14:10] -tr-bridge/#techrights-blog.sergiodj.net | Yet Another Me - I am not on Freenode anymore [14:11] tr-bridge "V is a statically typed compiled programming language designed for building maintainable software. Its similar to Go and its design has also been influenced by Oberon, Rust, Swift, Kotlin, and Python." https://www.linuxlinks.com/excellent-free-tutorials-learn-v/ [14:11] techrights-bot/fn "V is a statically typed compiled programming language designed for building maintainable software. Its similar to Go and its design has also been influenced by Oberon, Rust, Swift, Kotlin, and Python." https://www.linuxlinks.com/excellent-free-tutorials-learn-v/ [14:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Excellent Free Tutorials to Learn V - LinuxLinks [14:11] -tr-bridge/#techrights-Excellent Free Tutorials to Learn V - LinuxLinks [14:11] immibis schestowitz: you need more info about what's going on on freenode before making a decision? what more info do you need, than the fact they keep fucking it up harder and harder each day? [14:11] tr-bridge schestowitz: you need more info about what's going on on freenode before making a decision? what more info do you need, than the fact they keep fucking it up harder and harder each day? [14:13] techrights-bot/fn "After many struggles with using #git LFS on repositories that need to store big files, I decided to spend some time on checking the status of the built-in partial clone functionality that could possibly let you achieve the same (as of git 2.30)." https://www.kdab.com/native-big-file-handling-in-git/ [14:13] tr-bridge "After many struggles with using #git LFS on repositories that need to store big files, I decided to spend some time on checking the status of the built-in partial clone functionality that could possibly let you achieve the same (as of git 2.30)." https://www.kdab.com/native-big-file-handling-in-git/ [14:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-State of Native Big File Handling in Git - KDAB [14:13] -tr-bridge/#techrights-State of Native Big File Handling in Git - KDAB [14:14] tr-bridge New business seeks to "free users' computers" with #gnu #linux https://www.ifallsjournal.com/news/business/new-business-seeks-to-free-users-computers/article_88cd1908-64a1-58a2-a6a2-44ad5c8c853a.html sute blocked in #eu [14:14] techrights-bot/fn New business seeks to "free users' computers" with #gnu #linux https://www.ifallsjournal.com/news/business/new-business-seeks-to-free-users-computers/article_88cd1908-64a1-58a2-a6a2-44ad5c8c853a.html sute blocked in #eu [14:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New business seeks to "free users' computers" | Business | ifallsjournal.com [14:14] -tr-bridge/#techrights-New business seeks to "free users' computers" | Business | ifallsjournal.com [14:16] tr-bridge #IdRamp joins Linux #Cardea as digital health passes evolve and roll out https://www.biometricupdate.com/202106/idramp-joins-linux-cardea-as-digital-health-passes-evolve-and-roll-out [14:16] techrights-bot/fn #IdRamp joins Linux #Cardea as digital health passes evolve and roll out https://www.biometricupdate.com/202106/idramp-joins-linux-cardea-as-digital-health-passes-evolve-and-roll-out [14:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.biometricupdate.com | IdRamp joins Linux Cardea as digital health passes evolve and roll out | Biometric Update [14:16] -tr-bridge/#techrights-www.biometricupdate.com | IdRamp joins Linux Cardea as digital health passes evolve and roll out | Biometric Update [14:19] tr-bridge #linuxfoundation is mass #surveillance front group http://techrights.org/2021/06/10/lf-mass-surveillance/ [14:19] techrights-bot/fn #linuxfoundation is mass #surveillance front group http://techrights.org/2021/06/10/lf-mass-surveillance/ [14:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation is a Foundation of Mass Surveillance | Techrights [14:19] -tr-bridge/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation is a Foundation of Mass Surveillance | Techrights [14:19] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@9tbpa3c7yuwzk.irc) has joined #techrights [14:21] schestowitz all you ever did here, immibis, is moaned about FN [14:21] tr-bridge all you ever did here, immibis, is moaned about FN [14:21] schestowitz we try to stay on topic, productive, and positive [14:21] tr-bridge we try to stay on topic, productive, and positive [14:22] schestowitz moving too fast would break everything [14:22] tr-bridge moving too fast would break everything [14:22] schestowitz maybe you can contribute to TR causes, other than "MOVE MOVE MOVE" [14:22] tr-bridge maybe you can contribute to TR causes, other than "MOVE MOVE MOVE" [14:23] psydroid adopting proprietary software will solve all of our problems [14:23] tr-bridge adopting proprietary software will solve all of our problems [14:23] *gustaf (~c34311c2@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [14:24] *gustaf has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client) [14:27] *gustaf (~gustaf@krkzi3rq7rhje.irc) has joined #techrights [14:28] tr-bridge News roundup: Hacking the PinePhone keyboard accessory, Phoc updates, and a new convergent web browser http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152306 [14:28] techrights-bot/fn News roundup: Hacking the PinePhone keyboard accessory, Phoc updates, and a new convergent web browser http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152306 [14:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | News roundup: Hacking the PinePhone keyboard accessory, Phoc updates, and a new convergent web browser | Tux Machines [14:28] -tr-bridge/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | News roundup: Hacking the PinePhone keyboard accessory, Phoc updates, and a new convergent web browser | Tux Machines [14:29] *tr-bridge has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [14:29] *bridge has quit (connection closed) [14:30] *bridge (~bridge@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #techrights [14:30] *irc.techrights.org gives channel operator status to bridge [14:30] techrights-bot/fn #patentTrolls in #texas to supply money for wasteful litigation firms https://telecom.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/lawsuit-claims-iphone-other-apple-devices-infringe-on-wireless-patents/83477124 [14:30] *tr-bridge (~tr-bridge@meowr.ru) has joined #techrights [14:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-telecom.economictimes.indiatimes.com | apple: Lawsuit claims iPhone, other Apple devices infringe on wireless patents, Telecom News, ET Telecom [14:30] tr-bridge [techrights-bot/fn] #patentTrolls in #texas to supply money for wasteful litigation firms https://telecom.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/lawsuit-claims-iphone-other-apple-devices-infringe-on-wireless-patents/83477124 [14:30] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] telecom.economictimes.indiatimes.com | apple: Lawsuit claims iPhone, other Apple devices infringe on wireless patents, Telecom News, ET Telecom [14:31] techrights-bot/fn #XDM A better IDM alternative for Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152307 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [14:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | XDM A better IDM alternative for Linux | Tux Machines [14:31] tr-bridge [techrights-bot/fn] #XDM A better IDM alternative for Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152307 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [14:31] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] www.tuxmachines.org | XDM A better IDM alternative for Linux | Tux Machines [14:43] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [14:44] schestowitz ok, psymin gave me op in new FN [14:44] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] ok, psymin gave me op in new FN [14:45] schestowitz so I could finally register it and change topic [14:45] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] so I could finally register it and change topic [14:45] schestowitz we're done configuring all that [14:45] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] we're done configuring all that [14:45] schestowitz I will try to produce articles later today [14:45] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] I will try to produce articles later today [14:45] schestowitz putting out all this IRC fire must have cost me like 5 hours of work today [14:45] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] putting out all this IRC fire must have cost me like 5 hours of work today [14:45] schestowitz another 1-2 hours yesterday [14:45] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] another 1-2 hours yesterday [14:46] schestowitz freenode.net did not warn us about what was coming [14:46] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] freenode.net did not warn us about what was coming [14:46] XRevan86 It's a fun surprise though. [14:46] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] It's a fun surprise though. [14:46] schestowitz fun maybe [14:46] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] fun maybe [14:46] schestowitz it was inevitable [14:46] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] it was inevitable [14:46] schestowitz but they didn't say when [14:46] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] but they didn't say when [14:46] DaemonFC Lordstown Motors collapsed just months after Trump used it as a photo prop for the election. No electric cars were ever produced. The executives resigned yesterday. [14:46] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] Lordstown Motors collapsed just months after Trump used it as a photo prop for the election. No electric cars were ever produced. The executives resigned yesterday. [14:46] XRevan86 isfreenodedeadyet.com has decided it doesn't care anymore [14:46] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] isfreenodedeadyet.com has decided it doesn't care anymore [14:47] XRevan86 that's inconvinient, it had nice graphs [14:47] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] that's inconvinient, it had nice graphs [14:48] schestowitz DaemonFC: keep on topic pls [14:48] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] DaemonFC: keep on topic pls [14:48] DaemonFC The CEO said he'd be the next Elon Musk. Looks like he got there faster. [14:48] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] The CEO said he'd be the next Elon Musk. Looks like he got there faster. [14:49] XRevan86 Judging by how the netsplit.de graphs look like, they're covering the new network. [14:49] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] Judging by how the netsplit.de graphs look like, they're covering the new network. [14:51] techrights-bot/fn Links 15/6/2021: Debian Installer Bullseye RC 2 and Zink Updates http://techrights.org/2021/06/15/debian-installer-bullseye-rc-2/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/15/debian-installer-bullseye-rc-2/ [14:51] tr-bridge [techrights-bot/fn] Links 15/6/2021: Debian Installer Bullseye RC 2 and Zink Updates http://techrights.org/2021/06/15/debian-installer-bullseye-rc-2/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/15/debian-installer-bullseye-rc-2/ [14:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 15/6/2021: Debian Installer Bullseye RC 2 and Zink Updates | Techrights [14:51] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] techrights.org | Links 15/6/2021: Debian Installer Bullseye RC 2 and Zink Updates | Techrights [14:51] DaemonFC Tesla shouldn't even be in business. Without CAFE credit trading, they wouldn't be. CAFE costs people who want to buy a real car that is practical to drive about $2,000 and then it gets funneled into Tesla so they can produce a "ZEV", which runs on a conflict mineral that's in limited supply, and which causes plenty of emissions. [14:51] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] Tesla shouldn't even be in business. Without CAFE credit trading, they wouldn't be. CAFE costs people who want to buy a real car that is practical to drive about $2,000 and then it gets funneled into Tesla so they can produce a "ZEV", which runs on a conflict mineral that's in limited supply, and which causes plenty of emissions. [14:51] DaemonFC (Plugs into the power grid, manufacturing, etc.) [14:51] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] (Plugs into the power grid, manufacturing, etc.) [14:52] DaemonFC These "enhanced" mpg requirements are a big bailout of Tesla. [14:52] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] These "enhanced" mpg requirements are a big bailout of Tesla. [14:52] schestowitz XRevan86: what do you mean by covering? [14:52] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] XRevan86: what do you mean by covering? [14:52] XRevan86 schestowitz: monitoring [14:52] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: monitoring [14:52] schestowitz oh, i see [14:52] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] oh, i see [14:53] schestowitz so it's treated as different? [14:53] DaemonFC It's cheaper to pay CAFE fines than it is to make more efficient engines, so they'll just do what they always do and pay Elon. [14:53] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] so it's treated as different? [14:53] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] It's cheaper to pay CAFE fines than it is to make more efficient engines, so they'll just do what they always do and pay Elon. [14:53] schestowitz maybe, just maybe, the latest blog post from freenode is a clue [14:53] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] maybe, just maybe, the latest blog post from freenode is a clue [14:53] schestowitz but they plan some enhancements [14:53] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] but they plan some enhancements [14:53] XRevan86 schestowitz: Well, they have separate stats of users and such. [14:53] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: Well, they have separate stats of users and such. [14:53] schestowitz and andrew told me they'd set up self-hosted git after I spoke to him about it [14:53] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] and andrew told me they'd set up self-hosted git after I spoke to him about it [14:53] schestowitz he showed me some code for anonymous irc'ing [14:53] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] he showed me some code for anonymous irc'ing [14:53] schestowitz which combined with vpn can go somewhere [14:53] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] which combined with vpn can go somewhere [14:53] XRevan86 So if they connected to the new one, that's the stats they're reporting. [14:53] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] So if they connected to the new one, that's the stats they're reporting. [14:53] schestowitz but he wrote that in js [14:53] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] but he wrote that in js [14:54] schestowitz at least it's no longer in Microsoft/NSAHub [14:54] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] at least it's no longer in Microsoft/NSAHub [14:54] DaemonFC Almost everyone uses github at this point. Practically every app in F-Droid leads back there. [14:54] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] Almost everyone uses github at this point. Practically every app in F-Droid leads back there. [14:54] XRevan86 isfreenodedeadyet reports 24K users on classic.freenode.net [14:54] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] isfreenodedeadyet reports 24K users on classic.freenode.net [14:54] schestowitz so let's change that, DaemonFC [14:54] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] so let's change that, DaemonFC [14:54] DaemonFC I wonder when Facebook will decide that slimsocial violates their rights and hits them with DMCA for opening Facebook in a webview/ [14:54] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] I wonder when Facebook will decide that slimsocial violates their rights and hits them with DMCA for opening Facebook in a webview/ [14:55] DaemonFC Is feeding them a Chome on Windows UA "circumventing an access protection mechanism"? [14:55] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] Is feeding them a Chome on Windows UA "circumventing an access protection mechanism"? [14:56] DaemonFC It was weird for them to previously argue that third party apps are a DMCA violation because they let you save files. So do web browsers. [14:56] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] It was weird for them to previously argue that third party apps are a DMCA violation because they let you save files. So do web browsers. [14:57] *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #techrights [14:58] techrights-bot/fn #fedora gives people "badges"... for becoming volunteers of racist #ibm ... even internally this have this. Latest comment: "I was in the 100% club 3 years in a row...got a pin and a certificate....nothing else....!" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bjfb0lj#replies [14:58] tr-bridge [techrights-bot/fn] #fedora gives people "badges"... for becoming volunteers of racist #ibm ... even internally this have this. Latest comment: "I was in the 100% club 3 years in a row...got a pin and a certificate....nothing else....!" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bjfb0lj#replies [14:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Best of IBM - post regarding IBM layoffs [14:58] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] www.thelayoff.com | Best of IBM - post regarding IBM layoffs [14:58] schestowitz psymin: thanks for the op, all sorted now [14:58] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] psymin: thanks for the op, all sorted now [14:58] psymin woot [14:58] tr-bridge [psymin/tr] woot [14:58] schestowitz i want to see what freenode broke itself for, I think there's some new ircv3 stack somewhere [14:58] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] i want to see what freenode broke itself for, I think there's some new ircv3 stack somewhere [14:58] schestowitz with plans for expansion [14:58] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] with plans for expansion [14:59] schestowitz things like https://bbs.freenode.net/ [14:59] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] things like https://bbs.freenode.net/ [14:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bbs.freenode.net | freenode BBS [14:59] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] bbs.freenode.net | freenode BBS [14:59] schestowitz I think they scared away too many users by now [14:59] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] I think they scared away too many users by now [14:59] *psymin nods. [14:59] *tr-bridge [psymin/tr] nods. [14:59] schestowitz so even if the ideas and intentions are good, it might be too late [14:59] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] so even if the ideas and intentions are good, it might be too late ● Jun 15 [15:03] XRevan86 9966 users on the new, 23820 on the old [15:03] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] 9966 users on the new, 23820 on the old [15:03] XRevan86 33.7K vs. 34.5K for LC [15:03] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] 33.7K vs. 34.5K for LC [15:06] DaemonFC All of the community distributions based on Fedora also disappeared. [15:06] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] All of the community distributions based on Fedora also disappeared. [15:06] *balrog has quit (Quit: Bye) [15:07] *balrog (balrog@unaffiliated/balrog) has joined #techrights [15:17] schestowitz Fedora is done [15:17] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] Fedora is done [15:17] schestowitz look at Planet Fedora [15:17] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] look at Planet Fedora [15:17] schestowitz Even the Red IBMers aren'r writing much into it [15:17] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] Even the Red IBMers aren'r writing much into it [15:17] schestowitz maybe culture shock [15:17] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] maybe culture shock [15:18] schestowitz XRevan86: yes, well.... but many cannot connect at the moment [15:18] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] XRevan86: yes, well.... but many cannot connect at the moment [15:18] schestowitz some of my clients time out [15:18] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] some of my clients time out [15:18] schestowitz we'll see what they have in mind when it settles [15:18] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] we'll see what they have in mind when it settles [15:18] schestowitz I think some integration of things [15:18] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] I think some integration of things [15:18] schestowitz like web/social media something [15:18] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] like web/social media something [15:18] schestowitz IF they pull that off [15:18] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] IF they pull that off [15:19] schestowitz maybe just wanted traditional and old IRC [15:19] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] maybe just wanted traditional and old IRC [15:20] *Techrights-sec has quit (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.) [15:20] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:9ed2:1eff:feb6:a8e1) has joined #techrights [15:20] schestowitz/fn 23.7k on old freenode now [15:20] tr-bridge [schestowitz/fn] 23.7k on old freenode now [15:20] schestowitz/fn having just logged in again [15:20] tr-bridge [schestowitz/fn] having just logged in again [15:20] schestowitz 25k channels [15:20] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] 25k channels [15:21] schestowitz rinnegan.freenode.net [15:21] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] rinnegan.freenode.net [15:21] *XRevan86 has quit (Quit: Gateway shutdown) [15:21] *XRevan86 (~XRevan86@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #techrights [15:22] XRevan86 schestowitz: Probably TLS, it works every third time for me. [15:22] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: Probably TLS, it works every third time for me. [15:23] schestowitz maybe [15:23] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] maybe [15:23] schestowitz either way, that will converge soon [15:23] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] either way, that will converge soon [15:25] XRevan86 schestowitz: Also are your clients using chat.freenode.net? [15:25] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: Also are your clients using chat.freenode.net? [15:26] schestowitz I did change some configs [15:26] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] I did change some configs [15:27] schestowitz ii-1.8/ii: getaddrinfo: Temporary failure in name resolution [15:27] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] ii-1.8/ii: getaddrinfo: Temporary failure in name resolution [15:27] schestowitz what they should have done is post instructions BEFORE this whole mess [15:27] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] what they should have done is post instructions BEFORE this whole mess [15:28] schestowitz is there a third freenode network/cluster? [15:28] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] is there a third freenode network/cluster? [15:29] schestowitz 1623767232 :rinnegan.freenode.net 266 techrights-ipfs 23751 62193 :Current global users 23751, max 62193 [15:29] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] 1623767232 :rinnegan.freenode.net 266 techrights-ipfs 23751 62193 :Current global users 23751, max 62193 [15:29] schestowitz 1623767232 :rinnegan.freenode.net 250 techrights-ipfs :Highest connection count: 10746 (10745 clients) (67326 connections received) [15:29] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] 1623767232 :rinnegan.freenode.net 250 techrights-ipfs :Highest connection count: 10746 (10745 clients) (67326 connections received) [15:30] schestowitz it says it's running but I cannot see it. the enigma lives on... [15:30] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] it says it's running but I cannot see it. the enigma lives on... [15:32] XRevan86 schestowitz: I connect with chat.freenode.net and classic.freenode.net, and with reconnection rotation that does the trick. [15:32] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: I connect with chat.freenode.net and classic.freenode.net, and with reconnection rotation that does the trick. [15:32] techrights-bot/fn Unpaid volunteers of #IBM get virtual "badge" and "hero" status https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/heroes-of-fedora-hof-f34-final/ [15:32] tr-bridge [techrights-bot/fn] Unpaid volunteers of #IBM get virtual "badge" and "hero" status https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/heroes-of-fedora-hof-f34-final/ [15:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | Heroes of Fedora (HoF) F34 Final Fedora Community Blog [15:32] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] communityblog.fedoraproject.org | Heroes of Fedora (HoF) F34 Final Fedora Community Blog [15:33] schestowitz IRC logging will fail again unless all the bots are up in whichever network [15:33] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] IRC logging will fail again unless all the bots are up in whichever network [15:33] schestowitz I give it until end of week to settle [15:33] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] I give it until end of week to settle [15:33] schestowitz I did almost no articles today [15:33] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] I did almost no articles today [15:33] schestowitz I had planned many [15:33] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] I had planned many [15:34] XRevan86 schestowitz: The bridge is in the right places I think. [15:34] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: The bridge is in the right places I think. [15:34] schestowitz btw, some of those bots sort of enhance the scope of irc [15:34] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] btw, some of those bots sort of enhance the scope of irc [15:34] schestowitz so you might say they 'extend' irc [15:34] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] so you might say they 'extend' irc [15:35] schestowitz whichever network is receptive of that, good [15:35] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] whichever network is receptive of that, good [15:35] schestowitz as it's all based on standards, freesw etc. [15:35] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] as it's all based on standards, freesw etc. [15:35] schestowitz LC seems like 'copypaste' of freenode [15:35] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] LC seems like 'copypaste' of freenode [15:35] schestowitz bbl [15:35] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] bbl [15:37] XRevan86 schestowitz: LC is ran by the old freenode people, so of course they brought in their stuff. [15:37] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: LC is ran by the old freenode people, so of course they brought in their stuff. [15:43] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Jun 15 [16:09] *job has quit (connection closed) [16:13] XRevan86 "Let me ask you a direction question" [16:13] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] "Let me ask you a direction question" [16:14] XRevan86 Ha-ha, good luck, Putin will not answer directly anyway. [16:14] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] Ha-ha, good luck, Putin will not answer directly anyway. 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[16:58] *XRevan86 (~root@meowr.ru) has joined #techrights [16:58] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has joined #techrights [16:59] XRevan86 > irc: error: The TLS connection was non-properly terminated. [16:59] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] > irc: error: The TLS connection was non-properly terminated. [16:59] XRevan86/fn The TLS problems are still there. [16:59] tr-bridge [XRevan86/fn] The TLS problems are still there. ● Jun 15 [17:00] phobos_anomaly XRevan86: IRC'ing as root... thats asking for trouble ;) [17:00] phobos_anomaly/fc XRevan86: IRC'ing as root... thats asking for trouble ;) [17:00] *XRevan86 has quit (Client Quit) [17:00] XRevan86 phobos_anomaly: Only if the troublemakers are fast enough :) [17:00] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] phobos_anomaly: Only if the troublemakers are fast enough :) [17:00] phobos/fn ha ;) [17:00] tr-bridge [phobos/fn] ha ;) [17:01] XRevan86 I'm just looking what's up over there, because this channel's never quiet, but it is now. [17:01] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] I'm just looking what's up over there, because this channel's never quiet, but it is now. [17:01] XRevan86 at least it's not my fault :) [17:01] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] at least it's not my fault :) [17:01] phobos_anomaly Not sure whats going on. Maybe the bot isn't functioning right now [17:01] phobos_anomaly/fc Not sure whats going on. Maybe the bot isn't functioning right now [17:02] *phobos_anomaly/fc shrugs [17:02] *phobos_anomaly shrugs [17:02] phobos/fn I know the bridge is working though [17:02] tr-bridge [phobos/fn] I know the bridge is working though [17:03] phobos_anomaly anyone know if there is any truth to GNAA somehow gaining staff level privs in the last week and k-lining people? [17:03] phobos_anomaly/fc anyone know if there is any truth to GNAA somehow gaining staff level privs in the last week and k-lining people? [17:06] XRevan86 phobos_anomaly: I haven't heard anything about that. [17:06] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] phobos_anomaly: I haven't heard anything about that. [17:07] XRevan86 There was quite a bit of k-lines, but I didn't see any reports that it was illegitimate. [17:07] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] There was quite a bit of k-lines, but I didn't see any reports that it was illegitimate. [17:08] phobos_anomaly Figured it was nonsense, but thought I'd ask. It wouldn't be the first time they've pulled off strange stunts like that though [17:08] phobos_anomaly/fc Figured it was nonsense, but thought I'd ask. It wouldn't be the first time they've pulled off strange stunts like that though [17:09] phobos/fn huh... freenode on the new network is invite only [17:09] tr-bridge [phobos/fn] huh... freenode on the new network is invite only [17:09] phobos/fn err #freenode [17:09] tr-bridge [phobos/fn] err #freenode [17:09] phobos/fn * Cannot join #freenode (Channel is invite only) [17:09] tr-bridge [phobos/fn] * Cannot join #freenode (Channel is invite only) [17:10] XRevan86 Well, they're probably overwhelmed right now [17:10] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] Well, they're probably overwhelmed right now [17:10] XRevan86 totally not their own doing :) [17:10] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] totally not their own doing :) [17:10] phobos/fn I'll pretend thats true ;) [17:10] tr-bridge [phobos/fn] I'll pretend thats true ;) [17:11] CrystalMath/fn because it should be #help [17:11] tr-bridge [CrystalMath/fn] because it should be #help [17:11] CrystalMath/fn as it is on rizon :) [17:11] tr-bridge [CrystalMath/fn] as it is on rizon :) [17:11] AdmFubar/fn my account was de-registered apparently [17:11] tr-bridge [AdmFubar/fn] my account was de-registered apparently [17:12] CrystalMath/fn AdmFubar: no, this is a new ircd [17:12] tr-bridge [CrystalMath/fn] AdmFubar: no, this is a new ircd [17:12] CrystalMath/fn new services [17:12] tr-bridge [CrystalMath/fn] new services [17:12] CrystalMath/fn new network [17:12] tr-bridge [CrystalMath/fn] new network [17:12] XRevan86 AdmFubar: It's nothing personal, nothing was moved over. [17:12] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] AdmFubar: It's nothing personal, nothing was moved over. [17:12] AdmFubar/fn curio [17:12] tr-bridge [AdmFubar/fn] curio [17:14] XRevan86 AdmFubar: The old freenode is still accessible as classic.freenode.net, I've brought the bridge there too. [17:14] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] AdmFubar: The old freenode is still accessible as classic.freenode.net, I've brought the bridge there too. [17:14] AdmFubar/fn classic coke and new coke.. [17:14] tr-bridge [AdmFubar/fn] classic coke and new coke.. [17:14] AdmFubar/fn :P [17:14] tr-bridge [AdmFubar/fn] :P [17:17] AdmFubar https://puri.sm/posts/apples-subpoenas-show-they-own-you/ [17:17] tr-bridge [AdmFubar/tr] https://puri.sm/posts/apples-subpoenas-show-they-own-you/ [17:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-puri.sm | Apple's Subpoenas Show They Own You Purism [17:17] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] puri.sm | Apple's Subpoenas Show They Own You Purism [17:17] XRevan86 Yea, the best place to move over is here, irc.techrights.org [17:17] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] Yea, the best place to move over is here, irc.techrights.org [17:23] MinceR lol @ freenode classic [17:23] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] lol @ freenode classic [17:28] CrystalMath/fn no mincer that's the official name [17:28] tr-bridge [CrystalMath/fn] no mincer that's the official name [17:29] *CrystalMath (~coderain@hcdzgjg37iuk6.irc) has joined #techrights [17:29] CrystalMath and now i'm here [17:29] tr-bridge [CrystalMath/tr] and now i'm here [17:29] XRevan86 https://memes.ucoz.com/_nw/55/78915193.jpg [17:29] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] https://memes.ucoz.com/_nw/55/78915193.jpg [17:30] psymin CrystalMath, yay! [17:30] tr-bridge [psymin/tr] CrystalMath, yay! [17:32] CrystalMath nice, this server allows anonymous registration [17:32] tr-bridge [CrystalMath/tr] nice, this server allows anonymous registration [17:32] CrystalMath so that Ariadne can't sell my data :P [17:32] tr-bridge [CrystalMath/tr] so that Ariadne can't sell my data :P [17:32] CrystalMath (joking) [17:32] tr-bridge [CrystalMath/tr] (joking) [17:32] psymin how can we know you're the real CrystalMath ? [17:32] tr-bridge [psymin/tr] how can we know you're the real CrystalMath ? [17:32] CrystalMath/fn yes i am [17:32] tr-bridge [CrystalMath/fn] yes i am [17:33] MinceR lol @ duck-based authentication tokens [17:33] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] lol @ duck-based authentication tokens [17:33] XRevan86 How can we know CrystalMath/fn is the real CrystalMath ? [17:33] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] How can we know CrystalMath/fn is the real CrystalMath ? [17:33] CrystalMath/fn i'm authenticated [17:33] tr-bridge [CrystalMath/fn] i'm authenticated [17:33] CrystalMath/fn and i'm ClassicMath on freenode classic [17:33] tr-bridge [CrystalMath/fn] and i'm ClassicMath on freenode classic [17:35] XRevan86 I'll trust you for now, RubyMathematician [17:35] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] I'll trust you for now, RubyMathematician [17:36] activel0w/fn ??? 2021-06-15 16:18:35 [_freenode] |CRAP| -!- Cannot authenticate via SASL (The authentication timed out) [17:36] tr-bridge [activel0w/fn] ??? 2021-06-15 16:18:35 [_freenode] |CRAP| -!- Cannot authenticate via SASL (The authentication timed out) [17:36] activel0w/fn anyone knows anything? [17:36] tr-bridge [activel0w/fn] anyone knows anything? [17:36] CrystalMath i'm totally not bill gates in disguise [17:36] tr-bridge [CrystalMath/tr] i'm totally not bill gates in disguise [17:36] CrystalMath So anyway, about that Bill and Melinda Gates foundation... [17:36] tr-bridge [CrystalMath/tr] So anyway, about that Bill and Melinda Gates foundation... [17:36] CrystalMath They're really not so bad you know? [17:36] tr-bridge [CrystalMath/tr] They're really not so bad you know? [17:36] CrystalMath You're being too hard on them. [17:36] tr-bridge [CrystalMath/tr] You're being too hard on them. [17:37] CrystalMath Also, Microsoft really just tried its best. [17:37] tr-bridge [CrystalMath/tr] Also, Microsoft really just tried its best. [17:37] CrystalMath And Bill Gates, he's a really cool guy, and totally clean. [17:37] tr-bridge [CrystalMath/tr] And Bill Gates, he's a really cool guy, and totally clean. [17:37] XRevan86 CrystalMath: A hero rather. [17:37] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] CrystalMath: A hero rather. [17:37] CrystalMath i was pretending to be someone else pretending to be me :P [17:37] tr-bridge [CrystalMath/tr] i was pretending to be someone else pretending to be me :P [17:38] XRevan86 CrystalMath: I was trying to join in [17:38] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] CrystalMath: I was trying to join in [17:38] XRevan86 activel0w: Hm, I had problems with TLS but not with SASL. [17:38] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] activel0w: Hm, I had problems with TLS but not with SASL. [17:39] activel0w/fn classic.freenode.net says this: 2021-06-15 16:22:32 [_freenode] |CRAP| -!- You are banned from this server- Attempting to bruteforce oper command (2021/6/14 09.29) [17:39] tr-bridge [activel0w/fn] classic.freenode.net says this: 2021-06-15 16:22:32 [_freenode] |CRAP| -!- You are banned from this server- Attempting to bruteforce oper command (2021/6/14 09.29) [17:40] activel0w/fn NEVER did this [17:40] tr-bridge [activel0w/fn] NEVER did this [17:40] CrystalMath the heck!? [17:40] tr-bridge [CrystalMath/tr] the heck!? [17:45] MinceR 15 182844 < CrystalMath/fn> no mincer that's the official name [17:45] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] 15 182844 < CrystalMath/fn> no mincer that's the official name [17:46] MinceR yet still no new posts on freenode.net [17:46] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] yet still no new posts on freenode.net [17:46] CrystalMath expect them soon [17:46] tr-bridge [CrystalMath/tr] expect them soon [17:46] MinceR activel0w/fn: someone who used your IP address previously may have done that [17:46] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] activel0w/fn: someone who used your IP address previously may have done that [17:47] MinceR activel0w/fn: if you're on dynamic IP, that is [17:47] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] activel0w/fn: if you're on dynamic IP, that is [17:47] MinceR or cgNAT [17:47] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] or cgNAT [17:47] activel0w/fn last time i checked i was routed via MIT security department [17:47] tr-bridge [activel0w/fn] last time i checked i was routed via MIT security department [17:48] MinceR apparently inspircd has a RELAYMSG module [17:48] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] apparently inspircd has a RELAYMSG module [17:49] MinceR maybe someone at the MIT security department tried to bruteforce the OPER command? [17:49] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] maybe someone at the MIT security department tried to bruteforce the OPER command? [17:49] CrystalMath lol [17:49] tr-bridge [CrystalMath/tr] lol [17:50] MinceR the RELAYMSG module is apparently not loaded [17:50] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] the RELAYMSG module is apparently not loaded [17:51] MinceR if someone could persuade the staff to load it, we could have nicer bridging at new freenode [17:51] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] if someone could persuade the staff to load it, we could have nicer bridging at new freenode [17:51] XRevan86 CrystalMath: We need your connections! :) [17:51] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] CrystalMath: We need your connections! :) ● Jun 15 [18:21] psymin/fn odd [18:21] tr-bridge [psymin/fn] odd [18:21] psymin/fn activel0w, yeah [18:21] tr-bridge [psymin/fn] activel0w, yeah [18:21] psymin/fn activel0w, freenode did silly stuff, swapped out the ircd, classic still exists at like .. classic.freenode.net or something, but libera.chat works as does irc.techrights.org [18:21] tr-bridge [psymin/fn] activel0w, freenode did silly stuff, swapped out the ircd, classic still exists at like .. classic.freenode.net or something, but libera.chat works as does irc.techrights.org [18:21] psymin/fn oh my [18:21] tr-bridge [psymin/fn] oh my [18:21] activel0w/fn psymin: libera is run by staff which sold and then resigned [18:21] tr-bridge [activel0w/fn] psymin: libera is run by staff which sold and then resigned [18:21] sepsinn I just dont understand....what is the point of freenode doing this? [18:21] tr-bridge [sepsinn/tr] I just dont understand....what is the point of freenode doing this? [18:22] activel0w/fn classic.freenode banned, and normal freenode rejects SASL auth [18:22] tr-bridge [activel0w/fn] classic.freenode banned, and normal freenode rejects SASL auth [18:23] activel0w/fn i will not register with any other anymore anywhere [18:23] tr-bridge [activel0w/fn] i will not register with any other anymore anywhere [18:25] XRevan86 activel0w: The soldee Christel is not there. [18:25] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] activel0w: The soldee Christel is not there. [18:26] MinceR activel0w/fn: you could just use irc.techrights.org :> [18:26] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] activel0w/fn: you could just use irc.techrights.org :> [18:26] activel0w/fn probably will, techrights is very interesting to follow! [18:26] tr-bridge [activel0w/fn] probably will, techrights is very interesting to follow! [18:27] CrystalMath/fn activel0w: welcome :) [18:27] tr-bridge [CrystalMath/fn] activel0w: welcome :) [18:27] CrystalMath XRevan86: the bot always pings me in freenode [18:27] tr-bridge [CrystalMath/tr] XRevan86: the bot always pings me in freenode [18:27] CrystalMath whenever i speak here [18:27] tr-bridge [CrystalMath/tr] whenever i speak here [18:27] CrystalMath but not vice-versa [18:27] tr-bridge [CrystalMath/tr] but not vice-versa [18:28] *phobos_anomaly has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [18:28] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Makes sense. I can get the NOPINGNICK setting back. I just found that it messes with Matrix. [18:28] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] CrystalMath: Makes sense. I can get the NOPINGNICK setting back. I just found that it messes with Matrix. [18:28] XRevan86 it injects an invisible character into the nick to avoid it being a cast [18:28] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] it injects an invisible character into the nick to avoid it being a cast [18:28] CrystalMath yeah [18:28] tr-bridge [CrystalMath/tr] yeah [18:29] XRevan86 But Matrix escapes that character [18:29] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] But Matrix escapes that character [18:29] AdmFubar https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/06/five-new-bills-aim-to-break-up-big-tech-platforms-force-them-to-play-nice/ [18:29] tr-bridge [AdmFubar/tr] https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/06/five-new-bills-aim-to-break-up-big-tech-platforms-force-them-to-play-nice/ [18:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Five new bills aim to break up Big Tech platforms, force them to play nice | Ars Technica [18:29] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] arstechnica.com | Five new bills aim to break up Big Tech platforms, force them to play nice | Ars Technica [18:31] AdmFubar https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/06/chip-shortages-lead-to-more-counterfeit-chips-and-devices/ [18:31] tr-bridge [AdmFubar/tr] https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/06/chip-shortages-lead-to-more-counterfeit-chips-and-devices/ [18:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Chip shortages lead to more counterfeit chips and devices | Ars Technica [18:31] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] arstechnica.com | Chip shortages lead to more counterfeit chips and devices | Ars Technica [18:33] activel0w/fn German Bosh made biggest investment in history, to establish electronics manufacturing in Dresden/Germany [18:33] tr-bridge [activel0w/fn] German Bosh made biggest investment in history, to establish electronics manufacturing in Dresden/Germany [18:33] activel0w/fn 20 years late after East-German electronics were fully dismantled [18:33] tr-bridge [activel0w/fn] 20 years late after East-German electronics were fully dismantled [18:33] activel0w/fn German car manufacturers whining about shortages [18:33] tr-bridge [activel0w/fn] German car manufacturers whining about shortages [18:33] *includeals has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [18:35] activel0w/fn this project summarizes nicely the situation on a more global scale: https://j-core.org/ ; the xilinx related remarks are noteworthy [18:35] tr-bridge [activel0w/fn] this project summarizes nicely the situation on a more global scale: https://j-core.org/ ; the xilinx related remarks are noteworthy [18:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-j-core.org | J-core Open Processor [18:35] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] j-core.org | J-core Open Processor [18:35] activel0w/fn to my understanding free and open tooling may at best suffice to implement some 8bit uController, if at all [18:35] tr-bridge [activel0w/fn] to my understanding free and open tooling may at best suffice to implement some 8bit uController, if at all [18:38] activel0w/fn German Telecom closed ALL their telco universities, last immatriculations in year 2018 iirc [18:38] tr-bridge [activel0w/fn] German Telecom closed ALL their telco universities, last immatriculations in year 2018 iirc [18:41] techrights-bot/fn #Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 687 https://fridge.ubuntu.com/2021/06/14/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-687/ #gnu #linux [18:41] tr-bridge [techrights-bot/fn] #Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 687 https://fridge.ubuntu.com/2021/06/14/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-687/ #gnu #linux [18:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fridge.ubuntu.com | Ubuntu Fridge | Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 687 [18:41] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] fridge.ubuntu.com | Ubuntu Fridge | Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 687 [18:44] techrights-bot/fn Apple's Subpoenas Show They Own You https://puri.sm/posts/apples-subpoenas-show-they-own-you/ #apple #surveillance [18:44] tr-bridge [techrights-bot/fn] Apple's Subpoenas Show They Own You https://puri.sm/posts/apples-subpoenas-show-they-own-you/ #apple #surveillance [18:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-puri.sm | Apple's Subpoenas Show They Own You Purism [18:44] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] puri.sm | Apple's Subpoenas Show They Own You Purism [18:45] techrights-bot/fn This archery robot always hits the target | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/06/14/this-archery-robot-always-hits-the-target/ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/15/#latest [18:45] tr-bridge [techrights-bot/fn] This archery robot always hits the target | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/06/14/this-archery-robot-always-hits-the-target/ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/15/#latest [18:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | This archery robot always hits the target | Arduino Blog [18:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [18:45] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] blog.arduino.cc | This archery robot always hits the target | Arduino Blog [18:45] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [18:48] techrights-bot/fn "I have already seen its potential and proclaimed that it could become a revolutionary open-source software project and that it has the potential to be bigger than Linux." https://www.junauza.com/2021/06/the-bitcoin-revolution-is-here.html [18:48] tr-bridge [techrights-bot/fn] "I have already seen its potential and proclaimed that it could become a revolutionary open-source software project and that it has the potential to be bigger than Linux." https://www.junauza.com/2021/06/the-bitcoin-revolution-is-here.html [18:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.junauza.com | The Bitcoin Revolution is Here | Tech Source [18:48] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] www.junauza.com | The Bitcoin Revolution is Here | Tech Source [18:49] techrights-bot/fn Crowdfunding for the #JingPad A1 Linux tablet begins http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152315 [18:49] tr-bridge [techrights-bot/fn] Crowdfunding for the #JingPad A1 Linux tablet begins http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152315 [18:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Crowdfunding for the JingPad A1 Linux tablet begins | Tux Machines [18:49] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] www.tuxmachines.org | Crowdfunding for the JingPad A1 Linux tablet begins | Tux Machines [18:49] techrights-bot/fn The #PinePhone keyboard case will support hardware add-ons for wireless charging, LoRa, and more http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152314 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:49] tr-bridge [techrights-bot/fn] The #PinePhone keyboard case will support hardware add-ons for wireless charging, LoRa, and more http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152314 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The PinePhone keyboard case will support hardware add-ons for wireless charging, LoRa, and more | Tux Machines [18:49] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] www.tuxmachines.org | The PinePhone keyboard case will support hardware add-ons for wireless charging, LoRa, and more | Tux Machines [18:50] techrights-bot/fn #DXVK 1.9 Adds Support for Nvidia ShadowLibs Option in Final Fantasy XV, More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152313 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:50] tr-bridge [techrights-bot/fn] #DXVK 1.9 Adds Support for Nvidia ShadowLibs Option in Final Fantasy XV, More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152313 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | DXVK 1.9 Adds Support for Nvidia ShadowLibs Option in Final Fantasy XV, More | Tux Machines [18:50] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] www.tuxmachines.org | DXVK 1.9 Adds Support for Nvidia ShadowLibs Option in Final Fantasy XV, More | Tux Machines [18:50] techrights-bot/fn #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152312 #Linux #TuxMachines [18:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [18:50] tr-bridge [techrights-bot/fn] #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152312 #Linux #TuxMachines [18:50] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [18:50] techrights-bot/fn #MakuluLinux Core Now Built on Forked Gnome http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152311 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:50] tr-bridge [techrights-bot/fn] #MakuluLinux Core Now Built on Forked Gnome http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152311 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MakuluLinux Core Now Built on Forked Gnome | Tux Machines [18:50] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] www.tuxmachines.org | MakuluLinux Core Now Built on Forked Gnome | Tux Machines [18:51] techrights-bot/fn #KDE Plasma 5.22.1, Bugfix Release for June http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152310 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:51] tr-bridge [techrights-bot/fn] #KDE Plasma 5.22.1, Bugfix Release for June http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152310 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Plasma 5.22.1, Bugfix Release for June | Tux Machines [18:51] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Plasma 5.22.1, Bugfix Release for June | Tux Machines [18:51] tr-bridge [techrights-bot/fn] Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152309 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:51] techrights-bot/fn Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152309 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [18:51] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [18:52] techrights-bot/fn #Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152308 [18:52] tr-bridge [techrights-bot/fn] #Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152308 [18:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [18:52] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [18:53] AdmFubar https://www.salon.com/2021/06/15/its-raining-forever-chemicals-in-the-great-lakes_partner/ [18:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Its raining forever chemicals in the Great Lakes | Salon.com [18:53] tr-bridge [AdmFubar/tr] https://www.salon.com/2021/06/15/its-raining-forever-chemicals-in-the-great-lakes_partner/ [18:53] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] Its raining forever chemicals in the Great Lakes | Salon.com [18:54] schestowitz ah [18:54] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] ah [18:55] techrights-bot/fn #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152316 #Linux #TuxMachines [18:55] tr-bridge [techrights-bot/fn] #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152316 #Linux #TuxMachines [18:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [18:55] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [18:57] techrights-bot/fn New release: "Current 10.0 series releases: #Koozali SME Server 10.0" https://wiki.koozali.org/Main_Page #gnu #linux #centos [18:57] tr-bridge [techrights-bot/fn] New release: "Current 10.0 series releases: #Koozali SME Server 10.0" https://wiki.koozali.org/Main_Page #gnu #linux #centos [18:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.koozali.org | SME Server [18:57] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] wiki.koozali.org | SME Server [18:59] techrights-bot/fn "For a bit more than a year, I've been wondering if it is possible to bolt the open source Matrix communications network to Internet Relay Chat (IRC) in such a way that I can still use my #ZNC IRC bouncer without an extra proliferation of nicknames." https://opensource.com/article/21/6/irc-matrix-bridge-znc [18:59] tr-bridge [techrights-bot/fn] "For a bit more than a year, I've been wondering if it is possible to bolt the open source Matrix communications network to Internet Relay Chat (IRC) in such a way that I can still use my #ZNC IRC bouncer without an extra proliferation of nicknames." https://opensource.com/article/21/6/irc-matrix-bridge-znc [18:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Keep track of your IRC chats with ZNC | Opensource.com [18:59] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] Keep track of your IRC chats with ZNC | Opensource.com ● Jun 15 [19:01] techrights-bot/fn New: "I got Golden Circle and five 100% clubs when I was at #IBM . Two of the five resulted in trips, then they cut back. I quit when I realized (took me too long tbh) I was selling for a company that didn't value my ability. I now enjoy competing against and regularly beating IBM." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bjfb0lj#replies [19:01] tr-bridge [techrights-bot/fn] New: "I got Golden Circle and five 100% clubs when I was at #IBM . Two of the five resulted in trips, then they cut back. I quit when I realized (took me too long tbh) I was selling for a company that didn't value my ability. I now enjoy competing against and regularly beating IBM." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bjfb0lj#replies [19:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Best of IBM - post regarding IBM layoffs [19:01] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] www.thelayoff.com | Best of IBM - post regarding IBM layoffs [19:02] techrights-bot/fn "GTS- from Cali to Maine (is that a local enough decision?) Some IBMers have an option to relocate to a dedicated CIC or resign. Offer letters will be sent in July." Alternative to layoffs: cause people to resign by pushing them to sell their homes. https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bh52BMX#replies [19:02] tr-bridge [techrights-bot/fn] "GTS- from Cali to Maine (is that a local enough decision?) Some IBMers have an option to relocate to a dedicated CIC or resign. Offer letters will be sent in July." Alternative to layoffs: cause people to resign by pushing them to sell their homes. https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bh52BMX#replies [19:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | September 7th 2021 - IBM workers are returning to the office - post regarding IBM layoffs [19:02] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] www.thelayoff.com | September 7th 2021 - IBM workers are returning to the office - post regarding IBM layoffs [19:04] techrights-bot/fn #Canonical announces Ubuntu Pro for Google Cloud http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152274#comment-29948 [19:04] tr-bridge [techrights-bot/fn] #Canonical announces Ubuntu Pro for Google Cloud http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152274#comment-29948 [19:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Introducing Ubuntu Pro for Google Cloud | Tux Machines [19:04] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] www.tuxmachines.org | Introducing Ubuntu Pro for Google Cloud | Tux Machines [19:10] techrights-bot/fn The "Memory Folios" Work Continues - Improving Linux Performance, 7% Faster Kernel Builds - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Memory-Folios-Linux-v11 #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/15/#latest [19:10] tr-bridge [techrights-bot/fn] The "Memory Folios" Work Continues - Improving Linux Performance, 7% Faster Kernel Builds - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Memory-Folios-Linux-v11 #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/15/#latest [19:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The "Memory Folios" Work Continues - Improving Linux Performance, 7% Faster Kernel Builds - Phoronix [19:10] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] The "Memory Folios" Work Continues - Improving Linux Performance, 7% Faster Kernel Builds - Phoronix [19:11] techrights-bot/fn #FWUPD 1.6.1 Adds FreeBSD UEFI Capsule Handling, More Hardware Now Supported - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=FWUPD-1.6.1-Released #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/15/#latest [19:11] tr-bridge [techrights-bot/fn] #FWUPD 1.6.1 Adds FreeBSD UEFI Capsule Handling, More Hardware Now Supported - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=FWUPD-1.6.1-Released #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/15/#latest [19:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-FWUPD 1.6.1 Adds FreeBSD UEFI Capsule Handling, More Hardware Now Supported - Phoronix [19:11] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] FWUPD 1.6.1 Adds FreeBSD UEFI Capsule Handling, More Hardware Now Supported - Phoronix [19:13] techrights-bot/fn Multiple columns in #LibreOffice text boxes https://mikekaganski.wordpress.com/2021/06/15/multiple-columns-in-libreoffice-text-boxes/ [19:13] tr-bridge [techrights-bot/fn] Multiple columns in #LibreOffice text boxes https://mikekaganski.wordpress.com/2021/06/15/multiple-columns-in-libreoffice-text-boxes/ [19:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mikekaganski.wordpress.com | Multiple columns in LibreOffice text boxes Mike Kaganski's blog [19:13] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] mikekaganski.wordpress.com | Multiple columns in LibreOffice text boxes Mike Kaganski's blog [19:13] techrights-bot/fn "For USENIX LISA2021 I gave a 40 minute deep dive talk on BPF internals for Linux, focusing on observability tracing tools. Since there are already BPF internals references online (listed in this post) I used the opportunity to create some new content, showing how bpftrace instrumentation works from user space down to machine code." http://www.brendangregg.com/blog/2021-06-15/bpf-internals.html [19:13] tr-bridge [techrights-bot/fn] "For USENIX LISA2021 I gave a 40 minute deep dive talk on BPF internals for Linux, focusing on observability tracing tools. Since there are already BPF internals references online (listed in this post) I used the opportunity to create some new content, showing how bpftrace instrumentation works from user space down to machine code." http://www.brendangregg.com/blog/2021-06-15/bpf-internals.html [19:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.brendangregg.com | USENIX LISA2021 BPF Internals (eBPF) [19:13] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] www.brendangregg.com | USENIX LISA2021 BPF Internals (eBPF) [19:15] techrights-bot/fn Try this new #freesw tool for data analytics | https://opensource.com/article/21/6/cubejs [19:15] tr-bridge [techrights-bot/fn] Try this new #freesw tool for data analytics | https://opensource.com/article/21/6/cubejs [19:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Try this new open source tool for data analytics | Opensource.com [19:15] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] Try this new open source tool for data analytics | Opensource.com [19:17] techrights-bot/fn "It's been more than a year since I wrote about Opinionated IkiWiki, a pre-configured, containerized deployment of #Ikiwiki with opinions. My intention was to make something that is easy to get up and running if you are more experienced with containers than IkiWiki." https://jmtd.net/log/opinionated_ikiwiki/v1/ [19:17] tr-bridge [techrights-bot/fn] "It's been more than a year since I wrote about Opinionated IkiWiki, a pre-configured, containerized deployment of #Ikiwiki with opinions. My intention was to make something that is easy to get up and running if you are more experienced with containers than IkiWiki." https://jmtd.net/log/opinionated_ikiwiki/v1/ [19:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jmtd.net | jmtd log opinionated ikiwiki Opinionated IkiWiki v1 [19:17] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] jmtd.net | jmtd log opinionated ikiwiki Opinionated IkiWiki v1 [19:18] techrights-bot/fn Build a static website with #Eleventy | https://opensource.com/article/21/6/static-site-builder #FreeSW [19:18] tr-bridge [techrights-bot/fn] Build a static website with #Eleventy | https://opensource.com/article/21/6/static-site-builder #FreeSW [19:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Build a static website with Eleventy | Opensource.com [19:18] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] Build a static website with Eleventy | Opensource.com [19:18] techrights-bot/fn Listen to music on #FreeDOS https://opensource.com/article/21/6/listen-music-freedos #dos [19:18] tr-bridge [techrights-bot/fn] Listen to music on #FreeDOS https://opensource.com/article/21/6/listen-music-freedos #dos [19:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Listen to music on FreeDOS | Opensource.com [19:18] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] Listen to music on FreeDOS | Opensource.com [19:19] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/more [19:19] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/more [19:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - More [19:19] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - More [19:19] techrights-bot/fn #mozilla Niko Matsakis: #CTCFT 2021-06-21 Agenda http://smallcultfollowing.com/babysteps/blog/2021/06/14/ctcft-2021-06-21-agenda/ "The second Cross Team Collaboration Fun Times (CTCFT) meeting will take place one week from today" [19:19] tr-bridge [techrights-bot/fn] #mozilla Niko Matsakis: #CTCFT 2021-06-21 Agenda http://smallcultfollowing.com/babysteps/blog/2021/06/14/ctcft-2021-06-21-agenda/ "The second Cross Team Collaboration Fun Times (CTCFT) meeting will take place one week from today" [19:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-smallcultfollowing.com | CTCFT 2021-06-21 Agenda [19:19] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] smallcultfollowing.com | CTCFT 2021-06-21 Agenda [19:22] techrights-bot/fn #Outreachy for #linux #kernel https://open-sourceress.com/outreachy-introduction/ [19:22] tr-bridge [techrights-bot/fn] #Outreachy for #linux #kernel https://open-sourceress.com/outreachy-introduction/ [19:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-open-sourceress.com | Outreachy - Introduction | Open Sourceress [19:22] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] open-sourceress.com | Outreachy - Introduction | Open Sourceress [19:26] techrights-bot/fn #freesw in #education Premiering today, Cracking the Textbook, the latest documentary in the Open Source Stories series from Red Hat, explores how open source is providing an alternative to costly textbooks for college students across the country. [19:26] tr-bridge [techrights-bot/fn] #freesw in #education Premiering today, Cracking the Textbook, the latest documentary in the Open Source Stories series from Red Hat, explores how open source is providing an alternative to costly textbooks for college students across the country. [19:27] techrights-bot/fn "Kubernetes by Example is here to help. Brought to you by Red Hat, Kubernetes By Example is a free online resource that provides a broad range of Kubernetes-focused tutorials, news and community interactionall designed around a hands-on, "learn by doing" approach that allows learners to practice skills as they are taught." https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/learn-kubernetes-example [19:27] tr-bridge [techrights-bot/fn] "Kubernetes by Example is here to help. Brought to you by Red Hat, Kubernetes By Example is a free online resource that provides a broad range of Kubernetes-focused tutorials, news and community interactionall designed around a hands-on, "learn by doing" approach that allows learners to practice skills as they are taught." https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/learn-kubernetes-example [19:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Learn Kubernetes by Example [19:27] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] www.redhat.com | Learn Kubernetes by Example [19:28] techrights-bot/fn "Kubernetes by Example is here to help. Brought to you by Red Hat, Kubernetes By Example is a free online resource that provides a broad range of Kubernetes-focused tutorials, news and community interactionall designed around a hands-on, "learn by doing" approach that allows learners to practice skills as they are taught." https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/learn-kubernetes-example [19:28] tr-bridge [techrights-bot/fn] "Kubernetes by Example is here to help. Brought to you by Red Hat, Kubernetes By Example is a free online resource that provides a broad range of Kubernetes-focused tutorials, news and community interactionall designed around a hands-on, "learn by doing" approach that allows learners to practice skills as they are taught." https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/learn-kubernetes-example [19:30] techrights-bot/fn #ubuntu company #canonical pushing concepts like #clownComputing to avoid speaking in meaningful terms. https://ubuntu.com//blog/manage-private-cloud-openstack-kubernetes-with-only-one-engineer [19:30] tr-bridge [techrights-bot/fn] #ubuntu company #canonical pushing concepts like #clownComputing to avoid speaking in meaningful terms. https://ubuntu.com//blog/manage-private-cloud-openstack-kubernetes-with-only-one-engineer [19:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to manage a 247 private cloud with one engineer | Ubuntu [19:30] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] How to manage a 247 private cloud with one engineer | Ubuntu [19:30] gustaf so is the channel up on running on FN classic or new FN [19:30] tr-bridge [gustaf/tr] so is the channel up on running on FN classic or new FN [19:31] CrystalMath gustaf: it's on freenode, but it's also on freenode [19:31] tr-bridge [CrystalMath/tr] gustaf: it's on freenode, but it's also on freenode [19:31] CrystalMath as well as self-hosted [19:31] tr-bridge [CrystalMath/tr] as well as self-hosted [19:32] gustaf yeah I know it's self-hosted, I joined here because I dropped my FN account [19:32] tr-bridge [gustaf/tr] yeah I know it's self-hosted, I joined here because I dropped my FN account [19:37] techrights-bot/fn How you know #gnu #linux technologically more advanced that anything 'i' or #apple https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/macbook-air-wont-boot-macos-from-new-ssd-but-works-with-ubuntu.2300999/ [19:37] tr-bridge [techrights-bot/fn] How you know #gnu #linux technologically more advanced that anything 'i' or #apple https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/macbook-air-wont-boot-macos-from-new-ssd-but-works-with-ubuntu.2300999/ [19:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.macrumors.com | MacBook Air won't boot MacOS from new SSD but works with Ubuntu | MacRumors Forums [19:37] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] forums.macrumors.com | MacBook Air won't boot MacOS from new SSD but works with Ubuntu | MacRumors Forums [19:39] schestowitz gustaf: it's on both [19:39] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] gustaf: it's on both [19:39] schestowitz the new and the old [19:39] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] the new and the old [19:40] schestowitz there are two bridges in place [19:40] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] there are two bridges in place [19:40] gustaf jfc [19:40] tr-bridge [gustaf/tr] jfc [19:40] AdmFubar is there a sugarfree-node too? [19:40] tr-bridge [AdmFubar/tr] is there a sugarfree-node too? [19:40] schestowitz and I observr both networks [19:40] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] and I observr both networks [19:40] schestowitz AdmFubar: no, freenode zero [19:40] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] AdmFubar: no, freenode zero [19:40] schestowitz year zero [19:40] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] year zero [19:40] AdmFubar :P [19:40] tr-bridge [AdmFubar/tr] :P [19:40] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_zero [19:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Year zero - Wikipedia [19:40] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_zero [19:40] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] en.wikipedia.org | Year zero - Wikipedia [19:40] schestowitz first they need to kill all their 'enemies' from the network [19:40] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] first they need to kill all their 'enemies' from the network [19:40] MinceR i'd have preferred freenode max [19:40] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] i'd have preferred freenode max [19:40] MinceR or better yet, freenode wild cherry [19:40] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] or better yet, freenode wild cherry [19:41] AdmFubar no rum and freenode? [19:41] tr-bridge [AdmFubar/tr] no rum and freenode? [19:41] schestowitz I preferred freenode for 13+ years when freenode just worked [19:41] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] I preferred freenode for 13+ years when freenode just worked [19:41] schestowitz and I didn't have to worry aboyt freenode at all [19:41] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] and I didn't have to worry aboyt freenode at all [19:41] schestowitz it was just there, doing its thing [19:41] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] it was just there, doing its thing [19:41] schestowitz and freeSW projects could focus on freeSW [19:41] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] and freeSW projects could focus on freeSW [19:41] schestowitz something you don't appreciate something until you lose it [19:41] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] something you don't appreciate something until you lose it [19:41] schestowitz *soetimes [19:41] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] *soetimes [19:42] MinceR banning people from support channels for no reason, canceling people for the sake of corporate masters [19:42] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] banning people from support channels for no reason, canceling people for the sake of corporate masters [19:42] MinceR those were the days [19:42] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] those were the days [19:42] AdmFubar I know I wish I could find my marbles.... [19:42] tr-bridge [AdmFubar/tr] I know I wish I could find my marbles.... [19:43] gustaf so if the old network had to be razed to eliminate any lingering traces of bad ju-ju, why keep it around? Won't it infect the new through network osmosis? [19:43] tr-bridge [gustaf/tr] so if the old network had to be razed to eliminate any lingering traces of bad ju-ju, why keep it around? Won't it infect the new through network osmosis? [19:44] techrights-bot/fn Left 4 Dead 2 updated with #Vulkan support thanks to #DXVK http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152313#comment-29951 [19:44] tr-bridge [techrights-bot/fn] Left 4 Dead 2 updated with #Vulkan support thanks to #DXVK http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152313#comment-29951 [19:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | DXVK 1.9 Adds Support for Nvidia ShadowLibs Option in Final Fantasy XV, More | Tux Machines [19:44] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] www.tuxmachines.org | DXVK 1.9 Adds Support for Nvidia ShadowLibs Option in Final Fantasy XV, More | Tux Machines [19:45] activel0w/fn doubt freenode domain name may legally serve any service anymore -> swapping/nuking service database and accepting OLD credentials is critical [19:45] tr-bridge [activel0w/fn] doubt freenode domain name may legally serve any service anymore -> swapping/nuking service database and accepting OLD credentials is critical [19:46] schestowitz 1623782758 :rinnegan.freenode.net NOTICE * :*** Looking up your hostname... [19:46] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] 1623782758 :rinnegan.freenode.net NOTICE * :*** Looking up your hostname... [19:46] schestowitz 1623782762 :rinnegan.freenode.net NOTICE * :*** Checking Ident [19:46] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] 1623782762 :rinnegan.freenode.net NOTICE * :*** Checking Ident [19:46] schestowitz 1623782762 :rinnegan.freenode.net NOTICE * :*** Couldn't look up your hostname [19:46] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] 1623782762 :rinnegan.freenode.net NOTICE * :*** Couldn't look up your hostname [19:46] MinceR wrong place to ask [19:46] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] wrong place to ask [19:46] MinceR as it on #freenode (but don't expect an answer) [19:46] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] as it on #freenode (but don't expect an answer) [19:46] MinceR s/as/ask/ [19:46] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] s/as/ask/ [19:48] immibis rasengan was on old-#freenode just before [19:48] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] rasengan was on old-#freenode just before [19:48] immibis still is [19:48] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] still is [19:49] schestowitz if they don't sort out their network by midnight, I will start migrating over all the remaining bots, there will be bugs at first though [19:49] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] if they don't sort out their network by midnight, I will start migrating over all the remaining bots, there will be bugs at first though [19:49] schestowitz as some stuff was hard-coded for FN [19:49] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] as some stuff was hard-coded for FN [19:50] immibis lol it will not be sorted out [19:50] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] lol it will not be sorted out [19:50] techrights-bot/fn "You can buy #Boppio on Steam in Early Access with #GNU #Linux support." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/boppio-is-a-promising-new-early-access-factory-and-automation-building-sim [19:50] tr-bridge [techrights-bot/fn] "You can buy #Boppio on Steam in Early Access with #GNU #Linux support." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/boppio-is-a-promising-new-early-access-factory-and-automation-building-sim [19:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Boppio is a promising new Early Access factory and automation building sim | GamingOnLinux [19:50] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] Boppio is a promising new Early Access factory and automation building sim | GamingOnLinux [19:51] XRevan86 Is this something that even can be sorted out? [19:51] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] Is this something that even can be sorted out? [19:51] XRevan86 I think this will haunt techrights for weeks to come. [19:51] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] I think this will haunt techrights for weeks to come. [19:53] MinceR in theory, it could be [19:53] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] in theory, it could be [19:53] MinceR in practice, staff has failed to fix simpler things [19:53] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] in practice, staff has failed to fix simpler things [19:54] activel0w/fn there is three databases now: libera, freenode-old, freenode-new [19:54] tr-bridge [activel0w/fn] there is three databases now: libera, freenode-old, freenode-new [19:55] XRevan86 activel0w: It's pretty obvious which one of the three is in the best shape. [19:55] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] activel0w: It's pretty obvious which one of the three is in the best shape. [19:55] Viper/fn The main channel is #techrights at irc.techrights.org [19:55] tr-bridge [Viper/fn] The main channel is #techrights at irc.techrights.org [19:55] Viper/fn The main channel is #techrights at irc.freenode.org [19:55] tr-bridge [Viper/fn] The main channel is #techrights at irc.freenode.org [19:55] schestowitz yes [19:55] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] yes [19:55] XRevan86 yes [19:55] Viper/fn so.. which one is it [19:55] tr-bridge [Viper/fn] so.. which one is it [19:55] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] yes [19:55] XRevan86 oi, no [19:55] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] oi, no [19:55] schestowitz no [19:55] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] no [19:56] schestowitz depends. [19:56] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] depends. [19:56] schestowitz the longtime home was freenode and we didn't leave that home [19:56] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] the longtime home was freenode and we didn't leave that home [19:56] schestowitz we 'bought' a new one [19:56] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] we 'bought' a new one [19:56] schestowitz without it being mortgaged [19:56] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] without it being mortgaged [19:56] *phebus (~phebus@f95gnd3zj7732.irc) has joined #techrights [19:56] Viper/fn both listed here http://techrights.org/irc-channel/ as 'main' just curious [19:56] tr-bridge [Viper/fn] both listed here http://techrights.org/irc-channel/ as 'main' just curious [19:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Channels | Techrights [19:56] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] techrights.org | IRC Channels | Techrights [19:56] Viper/fn also.. 2021, https anyone? :P [19:56] tr-bridge [Viper/fn] also.. 2021, https anyone? :P [19:56] schestowitz libera has no business model [19:56] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] libera has no business model [19:57] schestowitz time will tell if if they can exist for 22 year [19:57] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] time will tell if if they can exist for 22 year [19:57] schestowitz if they find a business model, I will trust them even less [19:57] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] if they find a business model, I will trust them even less [19:57] schestowitz as it would likely mean doing something manipulative [19:57] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] as it would likely mean doing something manipulative [19:57] schestowitz Viper: you can use https but the cert if self-signed [19:57] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] Viper: you can use https but the cert if self-signed [19:58] schestowitz better use gemini if you want security [19:58] AdmFubar https://www.eff.org/press/releases/22-rights-groups-tell-paypal-and-venmo-shape-account-freezes-and-closures [19:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | 22 Rights Groups Tell PayPal and Venmo to Shape Up Policies on Account Closures | Electronic Frontier Foundation [19:58] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] better use gemini if you want security [19:58] tr-bridge [AdmFubar/tr] https://www.eff.org/press/releases/22-rights-groups-tell-paypal-and-venmo-shape-account-freezes-and-closures [19:58] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] www.eff.org | 22 Rights Groups Tell PayPal and Venmo to Shape Up Policies on Account Closures | Electronic Frontier Foundation [19:58] schestowitz and our irc node supports ssl [19:58] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] and our irc node supports ssl [19:58] gustaf looks like the FN panel is borked on http://techrights.org/irc-channel/ [19:58] tr-bridge [gustaf/tr] looks like the FN panel is borked on http://techrights.org/irc-channel/ [19:58] schestowitz gustaf: wow, it is indeed [19:58] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] gustaf: wow, it is indeed [19:58] schestowitz something broke, not at our end [19:58] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] something broke, not at our end [19:59] schestowitz that's why it's good to have two options [19:59] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] that's why it's good to have two options [19:59] *tr_guest|46361 (~5198ee27@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [19:59] gustaf I think I saw that webchat.FN was broken before [19:59] tr-bridge [gustaf/tr] I think I saw that webchat.FN was broken before [19:59] schestowitz that's me testing [19:59] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] that's me testing [19:59] schestowitz == Cannot send to channel (+b) [19:59] XRevan86 "the longtime home was freenode and we didn't leave that home" https://youtu.be/kbayz3fiZHM?t=70 [19:59] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] == Cannot send to channel (+b) [19:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-, ! 10 - YouTube [19:59] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] "the longtime home was freenode and we didn't leave that home" https://youtu.be/kbayz3fiZHM?t=70 [19:59] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] , ! 10 - YouTube [19:59] gustaf someone in #freenode complaining that dropping NickServ wiped out their cryptocurrency bank [19:59] tr-bridge [gustaf/tr] someone in #freenode complaining that dropping NickServ wiped out their cryptocurrency bank [19:59] schestowitz hmmm... MinceR did we change channel mode? [19:59] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] hmmm... MinceR did we change channel mode? ● Jun 15 [20:00] MinceR which network? [20:00] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] which network? [20:00] schestowitz this one [20:00] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] this one [20:00] MinceR i'm not aware of it [20:00] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] i'm not aware of it [20:00] MinceR there are 2 mutes here [20:00] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] there are 2 mutes here [20:00] schestowitz from kiwiirc I get"== Cannot send to channel (+b) " [20:00] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] from kiwiirc I get"== Cannot send to channel (+b) " [20:00] MinceR ah, i guess garrett used kiwiirc [20:00] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] ah, i guess garrett used kiwiirc [20:00] MinceR do you want me to remove it? [20:00] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] do you want me to remove it? [20:00] schestowitz try... [20:00] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] try... [20:00] schestowitz let's see [20:00] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] let's see [20:01] *irc.techrights.org gives channel operator status to MinceR [20:01] *MinceR removes ban on m:*!*@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc [20:01] tr_guest|46361 test [20:01] tr-bridge [tr_guest|46361/tr] test [20:01] tr_guest|46361 yes [20:01] tr-bridge [tr_guest|46361/tr] yes [20:01] tr_guest|46361 ok [20:01] tr-bridge [tr_guest|46361/tr] ok [20:01] tr_guest|46361 so for how long was kiwiirc 'read only'? [20:01] tr-bridge [tr_guest|46361/tr] so for how long was kiwiirc 'read only'? [20:01] Viper/fn ok, bright yellow on white background is a nono [20:01] tr-bridge [Viper/fn] ok, bright yellow on white background is a nono [20:01] Viper/fn cheers [20:01] tr-bridge [Viper/fn] cheers [20:01] schestowitz wow, the troll uses proxies now? [20:01] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] wow, the troll uses proxies now? [20:01] gustaf at least 3 hours ago, hwne I tried it :D [20:01] tr-bridge [gustaf/tr] at least 3 hours ago, hwne I tried it :D [20:01] MinceR 1102321 secs [20:01] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] 1102321 secs [20:02] *schestowitz mind blows [20:02] *tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] mind blows [20:02] immibis schestowitz: does freenode have a business model? [20:02] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] schestowitz: does freenode have a business model? [20:02] schestowitz no [20:02] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] no [20:02] immibis and what is techrights's business model? [20:02] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] and what is techrights's business model? [20:02] schestowitz same issue [20:02] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] same issue [20:02] schestowitz we are not a business [20:02] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] we are not a business [20:02] immibis are libera and freenode businesses? [20:02] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] are libera and freenode businesses? [20:02] schestowitz they have higher costs [20:02] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] they have higher costs [20:02] schestowitz and staff [20:02] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] and staff [20:02] MinceR legally they do seem to be [20:02] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] legally they do seem to be [20:02] MinceR which is a problem for them [20:02] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] which is a problem for them [20:02] *tr_guest|46361 has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client) [20:02] MinceR and for people who rely on them [20:02] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] and for people who rely on them [20:02] immibis legally techrights is probably also a business [20:02] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] legally techrights is probably also a business [20:02] schestowitz also, libera is Microsoft-hosted [20:03] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] also, libera is Microsoft-hosted [20:03] CrystalMath freenode isn't anymore :) [20:03] tr-bridge [CrystalMath/tr] freenode isn't anymore :) [20:03] schestowitz immibis: no, it's not, look it up [20:03] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] immibis: no, it's not, look it up [20:03] immibis you don't have to register all businesses in all countries [20:03] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] you don't have to register all businesses in all countries [20:03] schestowitz microsoft doesn't do free hosting, except temporarily when it suits Microsoft's business model [20:03] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] microsoft doesn't do free hosting, except temporarily when it suits Microsoft's business model [20:04] schestowitz immibis: do you have anything to contribute except poking over IRC issues? [20:04] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] immibis: do you have anything to contribute except poking over IRC issues? [20:04] schestowitz MinceR: good to know the troll used a proxy and that the ban is now gone [20:04] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] MinceR: good to know the troll used a proxy and that the ban is now gone [20:04] schestowitz seeing the other proxy, for FN, is down [20:04] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] seeing the other proxy, for FN, is down [20:04] schestowitz iirc, it was an iframe to the FN site, so they broke something amid migration [20:04] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] iirc, it was an iframe to the FN site, so they broke something amid migration [20:05] AdmFubar https://hackaday.com/2021/06/15/spam-caught-in-a-tin-of-spam/ [20:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Spam Caught, In A Tin Of Spam | Hackaday [20:05] tr-bridge [AdmFubar/tr] https://hackaday.com/2021/06/15/spam-caught-in-a-tin-of-spam/ [20:05] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] Spam Caught, In A Tin Of Spam | Hackaday [20:05] *activelow (~activelow@9d755eqjepydu.irc) has joined #techrights [20:05] techrights-bot/fn #Games : Master of Orion, Boppio, Kalypso Media http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152317 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Master of Orion, Boppio, Kalypso Media | Tux Machines [20:05] tr-bridge [techrights-bot/fn] #Games : Master of Orion, Boppio, Kalypso Media http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152317 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:05] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Master of Orion, Boppio, Kalypso Media | Tux Machines [20:05] techrights-bot/fn Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152318 [20:05] tr-bridge [techrights-bot/fn] Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152318 [20:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [20:05] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [20:08] AdmFubar https://hackaday.com/2021/06/13/you-have-about-four-months-to-find-a-lost-satellite/ [20:08] tr-bridge [AdmFubar/tr] https://hackaday.com/2021/06/13/you-have-about-four-months-to-find-a-lost-satellite/ [20:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-You Have About Four Months To Find A Lost Satellite | Hackaday [20:08] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] You Have About Four Months To Find A Lost Satellite | Hackaday [20:08] *MinceR sets ban on m:*!~68f41a5?@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc [20:08] techrights-bot/fn #Freenode keeps scaring away what's left on it. https://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/news/#2021-06-15T08:30:00Z [20:08] tr-bridge [techrights-bot/fn] #Freenode keeps scaring away what's left on it. https://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/news/#2021-06-15T08:30:00Z [20:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gstreamer.freedesktop.org | GStreamer: news [20:08] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] gstreamer.freedesktop.org | GStreamer: news [20:08] MinceR this should still cover the troll-for-hire [20:08] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] this should still cover the troll-for-hire [20:09] XRevan86 freedesktop has been moving to OFTC, so this looks like a left-over. [20:09] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] freedesktop has been moving to OFTC, so this looks like a left-over. [20:09] XRevan86 hugely accelerated with help from the rasegan's team [20:09] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] hugely accelerated with help from the rasegan's team [20:10] techrights-bot/fn "However, the #freenode IRC network is no longer a good host for our development work." Well, they took down their own network for almost a day now, without even a warning, announcement, or plan set out. https://krita.org/en/item/developer-chat-moving/ [20:10] tr-bridge [techrights-bot/fn] "However, the #freenode IRC network is no longer a good host for our development work." Well, they took down their own network for almost a day now, without even a warning, announcement, or plan set out. https://krita.org/en/item/developer-chat-moving/ [20:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-krita.org | Developer chat moving | Krita [20:10] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] krita.org | Developer chat moving | Krita [20:14] techrights-bot/fn Chris Titus Tech now promoting the dying #wsl (with a small 'g'). #wsl2 and WSL have been utter disaster and key people have quit their job. [20:14] tr-bridge [techrights-bot/fn] Chris Titus Tech now promoting the dying #wsl (with a small 'g'). #wsl2 and WSL have been utter disaster and key people have quit their job. [20:14] MinceR biggus dickus tech [20:14] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] biggus dickus tech [20:22] schestowitz with a small 'g' [20:22] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] with a small 'g' [20:23] techrights-bot/fn #HashLinux : #ArchLinux Preconfigured With Xmonad, Awesome, i3, and Bspwm Window Manager http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152319 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hash Linux: Arch Linux Preconfigured With Xmonad, Awesome, i3, and Bspwm Window Manager | Tux Machines [20:23] tr-bridge [techrights-bot/fn] #HashLinux : #ArchLinux Preconfigured With Xmonad, Awesome, i3, and Bspwm Window Manager http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152319 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:23] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] www.tuxmachines.org | Hash Linux: Arch Linux Preconfigured With Xmonad, Awesome, i3, and Bspwm Window Manager | Tux Machines [20:24] techrights-bot/fn "HONEST REVIEW" or reciprocity for so-called 'gift'? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOEZ5fSeZ-E [20:24] tr-bridge [techrights-bot/fn] "HONEST REVIEW" or reciprocity for so-called 'gift'? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOEZ5fSeZ-E [20:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Unboxing My Own Linux For Everyone Merch: HONEST REVIEW - YouTube [20:24] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] Unboxing My Own Linux For Everyone Merch: HONEST REVIEW - YouTube [20:25] techrights-bot/fn #IBM ('Red Hat') rewarding, financially, those who attacked #RichardStallman and the #FSF with #hate and #defamation https://blogs.gnome.org/engagement/2021/06/15/welcome-red-hat-as-a-guadec-sponsor/ [20:25] tr-bridge [techrights-bot/fn] #IBM ('Red Hat') rewarding, financially, those who attacked #RichardStallman and the #FSF with #hate and #defamation https://blogs.gnome.org/engagement/2021/06/15/welcome-red-hat-as-a-guadec-sponsor/ [20:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.gnome.org | Welcome Red Hat as a GUADEC Sponsor Getting to know GNOME [20:25] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] blogs.gnome.org | Welcome Red Hat as a GUADEC Sponsor Getting to know GNOME [20:26] *ChanServ gives channel operator status to MinceR [20:26] *MinceR sets mode -q #techrights *!68f41a50@* [20:26] *MinceR sets mode +q #techrights *!68f41a5?@* [20:26] *phebus has quit (Quit: POKE 1,0) [20:27] techrights-bot/fn Left 4 Dead 2 Updated With Vulkan Rendering Via DXVK http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152313#comment-29954 [20:27] tr-bridge [techrights-bot/fn] Left 4 Dead 2 Updated With Vulkan Rendering Via DXVK http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152313#comment-29954 [20:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | DXVK 1.9 Adds Support for Nvidia ShadowLibs Option in Final Fantasy XV, More | Tux Machines [20:27] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] www.tuxmachines.org | DXVK 1.9 Adds Support for Nvidia ShadowLibs Option in Final Fantasy XV, More | Tux Machines [20:30] tr-bridge [techrights-bot/fn] Kai-Fu Lees #Sinovation bets on Linux tablet maker Jingling in $10M round http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152315#comment-29955 #gnu #linux [20:30] techrights-bot/fn Kai-Fu Lees #Sinovation bets on Linux tablet maker Jingling in $10M round http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152315#comment-29955 #gnu #linux [20:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Crowdfunding for the JingPad A1 Linux tablet begins | Tux Machines [20:30] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] www.tuxmachines.org | Crowdfunding for the JingPad A1 Linux tablet begins | Tux Machines [20:31] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@7safqch7wi29k.irc) has joined #techrights [20:31] DaemonFC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez90rXhMWjE [20:31] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez90rXhMWjE [20:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Whats Driving Californias Mass Exodus? - YouTube [20:31] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] Whats Driving Californias Mass Exodus? - YouTube [20:32] DaemonFC "Changes the whole nature of the state." Well, 18,000 businesses leave and the state now has half the homeless people in the entire nation. [20:32] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] "Changes the whole nature of the state." Well, 18,000 businesses leave and the state now has half the homeless people in the entire nation. [20:33] DaemonFC A lot of that in just the last several years. It's never been worse. [20:33] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] A lot of that in just the last several years. It's never been worse. [20:34] techrights-bot/fn #docker sucks. It's collaborating with sick and #microsoft -connected FUD companies. Also connected to the military. https://www.docker.com/blog/bringing-docker-scan-to-linux/ [20:34] tr-bridge [techrights-bot/fn] #docker sucks. It's collaborating with sick and #microsoft -connected FUD companies. Also connected to the military. https://www.docker.com/blog/bringing-docker-scan-to-linux/ [20:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bringing docker scan to Linux - Docker Blog [20:34] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] Bringing docker scan to Linux - Docker Blog [20:36] immibis i wonder why that state attracts so many homeless people [20:36] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] i wonder why that state attracts so many homeless people [20:37] techrights-bot/fn The anti- #RMS lobby, with some #IBM employees in the mix, trying to 'punish' #fsf for not licking the boots of racist IBM et al http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151827#comment-29956 [20:37] tr-bridge [techrights-bot/fn] The anti- #RMS lobby, with some #IBM employees in the mix, trying to 'punish' #fsf for not licking the boots of racist IBM et al http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151827#comment-29956 [20:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FSF Copyright Assignment and GCC, GCC 9.4 Released | Tux Machines [20:37] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] www.tuxmachines.org | FSF Copyright Assignment and GCC, GCC 9.4 Released | Tux Machines [20:37] techrights-bot/fn Anti-RMS lobby (original) = mostly #IBM staff: http://techrights.org/2020/06/05/guix-petition/ [20:37] tr-bridge [techrights-bot/fn] Anti-RMS lobby (original) = mostly #IBM staff: http://techrights.org/2020/06/05/guix-petition/ [20:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Guix Petition Demographic Data, by Figosdev | Techrights [20:37] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] techrights.org | Guix Petition Demographic Data, by Figosdev | Techrights [20:38] *Disconnected (Connection reset by peer). 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Official channels are at irc.techrights.org | For scrollback see http://techrights.org/irc-channel/ [20:42] *sbp_ (~sbp@freenode-1m86vc.cfhm.haf7.0u8u7u.IP) has joined #techrights [20:42] MinceR ah, it's now in the new network [20:42] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] ah, it's now in the new network [20:42] MinceR classic seems to be gone [20:42] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] classic seems to be gone [20:42] *MinceR has quit (Quit: leaving) [20:42] techrights-bot "GPG is a popular Linux encrypting tool. Find out how to use its power to keep private files private." https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/encryption-decryption-gpg [20:42] techrights-bot/fn "GPG is a popular Linux encrypting tool. Find out how to use its power to keep private files private." https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/encryption-decryption-gpg [20:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | File encryption and decryption made easy with GPG | Enable Sysadmin [20:42] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] www.redhat.com | File encryption and decryption made easy with GPG | Enable Sysadmin [20:44] gustaf yeah rasengan just announced its shutdown [20:44] tr-bridge [gustaf/tr] yeah rasengan just announced its shutdown [20:44] AdmFubar I like the "leaked on a chinese site" and "people are rushing to install" [20:44] tr-bridge [AdmFubar/tr] I like the "leaked on a chinese site" and "people are rushing to install" [20:44] AdmFubar https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/windows-11-leaked-what-we-know-so-far-about-microsofts-new-os/ [20:44] tr-bridge [AdmFubar/tr] https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/windows-11-leaked-what-we-know-so-far-about-microsofts-new-os/ [20:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Windows 11 Leaked - What we know so far about Microsoft's new OS [20:44] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] www.bleepingcomputer.com | Windows 11 Leaked - What we know so far about Microsoft's new OS [20:45] XRevan86 30.7K people on freenode right now. [20:45] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] 30.7K people on freenode right now. [20:47] AdmFubar great googly moogly https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/06/gmails-big-merger-with-google-chat-meet-and-docs-launches-for-everyone/ [20:47] tr-bridge [AdmFubar/tr] great googly moogly https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/06/gmails-big-merger-with-google-chat-meet-and-docs-launches-for-everyone/ [20:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Googles unified Gmail interface (and Google Chat) launches for everyone | Ars Technica [20:47] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] arstechnica.com | Googles unified Gmail interface (and Google Chat) launches for everyone | Ars Technica [20:48] *libertybox has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) [20:49] *libertybox (~schestowitz_log@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [20:49] *vallor (~Ponzo@freenode-pbi.6r7.6bqj79.IP) has joined #techrights [20:49] *travankor has quit (Z-lined) [20:49] techrights-bot Kernel Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152320 #linux #kernel [20:49] techrights-bot/fn Kernel Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152320 #linux #kernel [20:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel Leftovers | Tux Machines [20:49] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel Leftovers | Tux Machines [20:50] DaemonFC Intentional leaks. [20:50] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] Intentional leaks. [20:50] DaemonFC Microsoft did this all the time with Longhorn. The problem was that it showed how Longhorn was getting slower and crashing more each time you installed a newer development snapshot. [20:50] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] Microsoft did this all the time with Longhorn. The problem was that it showed how Longhorn was getting slower and crashing more each time you installed a newer development snapshot. [20:51] schestowitz yes, 'leaks' no longer means leaks [20:51] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] yes, 'leaks' no longer means leaks [20:51] schestowitz marketing departments misuse the term [20:51] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] marketing departments misuse the term [20:51] MinceR leeks [20:51] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] leeks [20:51] schestowitz wiki celery.org [20:51] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] wiki celery.org [20:52] schestowitz XRevan86: we'll know by next week who made it across [20:52] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] XRevan86: we'll know by next week who made it across [20:52] schestowitz today I saw two freeSW projects announcing departutre [20:52] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] today I saw two freeSW projects announcing departutre [20:52] schestowitz and not necessarily to LC [20:52] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] and not necessarily to LC [20:52] schestowitz Matrix, other IRC networks [20:52] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] Matrix, other IRC networks [20:52] MinceR opentyrian moved to oftc [20:52] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] opentyrian moved to oftc [20:53] schestowitz to each his/her own.. [20:53] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] to each his/her own.. [20:53] schestowitz also another one I saw today [20:53] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] also another one I saw today [20:53] schestowitz gstreamer iirc [20:53] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] gstreamer iirc [20:53] schestowitz some of them take the opportunity to promote matrix [20:53] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] some of them take the opportunity to promote matrix [20:53] MinceR (though it's also still present on freenode, in #tyrian) [20:53] XRevan86 schestowitz: That was a number compiled from both freenodes [20:53] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] (though it's also still present on freenode, in #tyrian) [20:53] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: That was a number compiled from both freenodes [20:54] MinceR there seems to be only one freenode now [20:54] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] there seems to be only one freenode now [20:54] schestowitz yes, but some people timed out [20:54] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] yes, but some people timed out [20:54] MinceR risengan is linked to the new network [20:54] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] risengan is linked to the new network [20:54] schestowitz and may try another day [20:54] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] and may try another day [20:54] schestowitz hence I said next week [20:54] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] hence I said next week [20:54] XRevan86 MinceR: No, classic.freenode.net still got me an old server [20:54] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: No, classic.freenode.net still got me an old server [20:54] MinceR well, it got me to risengan [20:54] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] well, it got me to risengan [20:54] XRevan86 12462 people are there [20:54] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] 12462 people are there [20:54] MinceR i guess they fucked up the shutdown as well, then [20:54] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] i guess they fucked up the shutdown as well, then [20:54] schestowitz yeah [20:54] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] yeah [20:54] XRevan86 17526 are on the new one [20:54] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] 17526 are on the new one [20:54] MinceR lol [20:54] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] lol [20:54] schestowitz I have one client cycling dozens of times on it [20:54] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] I have one client cycling dozens of times on it [20:55] XRevan86 29988 in total [20:55] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] 29988 in total [20:55] schestowitz and it says too many users [20:55] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] and it says too many users [20:55] schestowitz and pushes me out [20:55] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] and pushes me out [20:55] schestowitz so some people are outright denied network access atm [20:55] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] so some people are outright denied network access atm [20:55] schestowitz both ssl and non-ssl [20:55] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] both ssl and non-ssl [20:55] XRevan86 MinceR: happytree.freenode.net [20:55] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: happytree.freenode.net [20:55] MinceR i'll check it out [20:55] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] i'll check it out [20:55] schestowitz no matter old or news [20:55] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] no matter old or news [20:55] schestowitz or which domain [20:55] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] or which domain [20:56] schestowitz this is def. popcorn worthy at this point [20:56] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] this is def. popcorn worthy at this point [20:56] DaemonFC https://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/lake-county-news-sun/ct-lns-waukegan-civil-rights-lawsuit-st-0424-story.html [20:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.chicagotribune.com | A Facebook post of Waukegan mayor, his mother and crudely drawn devil horns results in federal lawsuit - Chicago Tribune [20:56] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] https://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/lake-county-news-sun/ct-lns-waukegan-civil-rights-lawsuit-st-0424-story.html [20:56] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] www.chicagotribune.com | A Facebook post of Waukegan mayor, his mother and crudely drawn devil horns results in federal lawsuit - Chicago Tribune [20:56] XRevan86 schestowitz: Well, even without checking who made across or not (counting both), freenode is at an all-time low and getting smaller at an astounding rate. [20:56] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: Well, even without checking who made across or not (counting both), freenode is at an all-time low and getting smaller at an astounding rate. [20:56] schestowitz though our self-hosted network seems to get like 90%+ of the meaningful conversations anyway [20:56] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] though our self-hosted network seems to get like 90%+ of the meaningful conversations anyway [20:56] schestowitz XRevan86: some people cannot connect [20:56] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] XRevan86: some people cannot connect [20:57] schestowitz like my acer box [20:57] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] like my acer box [20:57] DaemonFC Apparently, on top of everything else, former Waukegan mayor Cunningham threatened a disabled man over drawing devil horns on him and putting the picture on Facebook, saying he'd cause the man to lose his low income apartment vouchers. [20:57] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] Apparently, on top of everything else, former Waukegan mayor Cunningham threatened a disabled man over drawing devil horns on him and putting the picture on Facebook, saying he'd cause the man to lose his low income apartment vouchers. [20:57] DaemonFC The mayor had his mother inform the man that he was "frat buddies" with the Attorney General of Illinois and that he'd have him put in prison for 10 years as well. [20:57] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] The mayor had his mother inform the man that he was "frat buddies" with the Attorney General of Illinois and that he'd have him put in prison for 10 years as well. [20:58] XRevan86 schestowitz: To where? [20:58] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: To where? [20:58] DaemonFC MinceR, We really are ruled by the least of us, aren't we? [20:58] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] MinceR, We really are ruled by the least of us, aren't we? [20:58] XRevan86/fc ha-ha, classic [20:58] tr-bridge [XRevan86/fc] ha-ha, classic [20:58] XRevan86 Well, it's still somewhat alive. [20:58] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] Well, it's still somewhat alive. [20:58] techrights-bot Document Typeset with #LaTeX and #TeXstudio on #Fedora - Part 1 | FOSS Linux https://www.fosslinux.com/47242/document-typeset-latex-texstudio-fedora-part-1.htm #fosslinux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/15/#latest [20:58] techrights-bot/fn Document Typeset with #LaTeX and #TeXstudio on #Fedora - Part 1 | FOSS Linux https://www.fosslinux.com/47242/document-typeset-latex-texstudio-fedora-part-1.htm #fosslinux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/15/#latest [20:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslinux.com | Document Typeset with LaTeX and TeXstudio on Fedora Part 1 | FOSS Linux [20:58] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] www.fosslinux.com | Document Typeset with LaTeX and TeXstudio on Fedora Part 1 | FOSS Linux [20:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [20:59] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [20:59] MinceR DaemonFC: indeed [20:59] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] DaemonFC: indeed ● Jun 15 [21:00] schestowitz XRevan86: their only possible recovery plan is to justify the mess with some super-super innovation [21:00] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] XRevan86: their only possible recovery plan is to justify the mess with some super-super innovation [21:00] schestowitz like, it was a mess because we had this totally new thing implemented [21:00] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] like, it was a mess because we had this totally new thing implemented [21:00] schestowitz like their BBS site and maybe IRC "next level" [21:00] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] like their BBS site and maybe IRC "next level" [21:00] schestowitz https://irc.com/ [21:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-IRC.com [21:00] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] https://irc.com/ [21:00] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] IRC.com [21:00] DaemonFC https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/06/apples-podcast-subscriptions-went-live-today-with-a-30-percent-cut/ [21:00] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/06/apples-podcast-subscriptions-went-live-today-with-a-30-percent-cut/ [21:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Apples podcast subscriptions went live todaywith a 30 percent cut | Ars Technica [21:00] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] arstechnica.com | Apples podcast subscriptions went live todaywith a 30 percent cut | Ars Technica [21:00] schestowitz https://freenode.org/news/taking-irc-further [21:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freenode.org | Taking IRC Further - freenode [21:00] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] https://freenode.org/news/taking-irc-further [21:00] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] freenode.org | Taking IRC Further - freenode [21:00] schestowitz need more details on what they have in mind [21:00] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] need more details on what they have in mind [21:00] schestowitz that might actually be interesting [21:00] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] that might actually be interesting [21:00] MinceR i guess one of the "super-super innovation"s is automatic cloaking [21:00] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] i guess one of the "super-super innovation"s is automatic cloaking [21:01] MinceR another is channel modes for flood protection and whatever [21:01] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] another is channel modes for flood protection and whatever [21:01] DaemonFC Apple now takes 30% of your podcast subscriptions. Which I assume also limits your audience to iPhones and.....what exactly is the gain here over streaming in MP3? [21:01] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] Apple now takes 30% of your podcast subscriptions. Which I assume also limits your audience to iPhones and.....what exactly is the gain here over streaming in MP3? [21:01] schestowitz like social control media site promotion with comments in IRC instead of all those clunky interfaces like slashdot's [21:01] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] like social control media site promotion with comments in IRC instead of all those clunky interfaces like slashdot's [21:01] schestowitz MinceR: yes, andrew was talking about cloaking [21:01] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] MinceR: yes, andrew was talking about cloaking [21:01] schestowitz but they need to communicate all this [21:01] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] but they need to communicate all this [21:01] MinceR there was something about wanting to use HostServ but not being able to [21:01] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] there was something about wanting to use HostServ but not being able to [21:01] MinceR indeed [21:01] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] indeed [21:01] schestowitz as they would have not many channels and users left [21:01] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] as they would have not many channels and users left [21:02] *194AAAJ3T is now known as leah [21:02] schestowitz anyway, we're doing ok on here for now [21:02] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] anyway, we're doing ok on here for now [21:02] schestowitz at least with Ariadne's help and XRevan86 setting up bridges we were well prepared for one network going 'tits-up' [21:02] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] at least with Ariadne's help and XRevan86 setting up bridges we were well prepared for one network going 'tits-up' [21:03] AdmFubar https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2021/06/15/pi_400_linux_support/ [21:03] tr-bridge [AdmFubar/tr] https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2021/06/15/pi_400_linux_support/ [21:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Linux gods at last turn their gaze to Pi 400: Computer-in-a-keyboard receives mainline kernel support with v5.14 The Register [21:03] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] www.theregister.com | Linux gods at last turn their gaze to Pi 400: Computer-in-a-keyboard receives mainline kernel support with v5.14 The Register [21:03] schestowitz I saw that [21:03] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] I saw that [21:03] schestowitz just moments ago [21:03] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] just moments ago [21:03] schestowitz in [20:49] Kernel Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152320 #linux #kernel [21:03] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] in [20:49] Kernel Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152320 #linux #kernel [21:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel Leftovers | Tux Machines [21:03] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel Leftovers | Tux Machines [21:04] schestowitz The Reg is late [21:04] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] The Reg is late [21:04] schestowitz El Reg picking news from 2 days ago [21:04] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] El Reg picking news from 2 days ago [21:05] techrights-bot #linuxfoundation very desperate to get your conference fees again https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/adoption-of-a-covid-19-vaccine-required-approach-for-our-fall-2021-event-line-up/ see http://techrights.org/2021/01/25/linux-foundation-training-and-certifications/ [21:05] techrights-bot/fn #linuxfoundation very desperate to get your conference fees again https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/adoption-of-a-covid-19-vaccine-required-approach-for-our-fall-2021-event-line-up/ see http://techrights.org/2021/01/25/linux-foundation-training-and-certifications/ [21:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxfoundation.org | Adoption of a COVID-19 Vaccine Required Approach for our Fall 2021 Event Line-up - Linux Foundation [21:05] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] linuxfoundation.org | Adoption of a COVID-19 Vaccine Required Approach for our Fall 2021 Event Line-up - Linux Foundation [21:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Linux Foundation, With Over 124 Million Dollars in Annual Revenue, is in Trouble Because of the Pandemic, So Its Trying to Reinvent Itself as Training and Certifications Outfit | Techrights [21:05] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] techrights.org | The Linux Foundation, With Over 124 Million Dollars in Annual Revenue, is in Trouble Because of the Pandemic, So Its Trying to Reinvent Itself as Training and Certifications Outfit | Techrights [21:05] AdmFubar I may have posted it from a site 2 days ago... not sure if I had.. [21:05] tr-bridge [AdmFubar/tr] I may have posted it from a site 2 days ago... not sure if I had.. [21:06] AdmFubar https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2021/06/15/m1_imac_crooked_display_issues/ [21:06] tr-bridge [AdmFubar/tr] https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2021/06/15/m1_imac_crooked_display_issues/ [21:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | There was a crooked man who bought a crooked M1 iMac, and we presume they lived together in a little crooked house The Register [21:06] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] www.theregister.com | There was a crooked man who bought a crooked M1 iMac, and we presume they lived together in a little crooked house The Register [21:06] techrights-bot #linuxfoundation outsourcing to #microsoft #proprietarySoftware #monopoly again https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/what-is-an-sbom/ #deletegithub http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github [21:06] techrights-bot/fn #linuxfoundation outsourcing to #microsoft #proprietarySoftware #monopoly again https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/what-is-an-sbom/ #deletegithub http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github [21:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxfoundation.org | What is an SBOM? - Linux Foundation [21:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Delete Github - Techrights [21:06] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] linuxfoundation.org | What is an SBOM? - Linux Foundation [21:06] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] techrights.org | Delete Github - Techrights [21:06] schestowitz AdmFubar: it was mentioned elsewhere [21:06] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] AdmFubar: it was mentioned elsewhere [21:07] schestowitz http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152278 [21:07] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152278 [21:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: Raspberry Pi 400, Trust Domain Extensions (TDX), and ACPI | Tux Machines [21:07] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: Raspberry Pi 400, Trust Domain Extensions (TDX), and ACPI | Tux Machines [21:07] AdmFubar https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2021/06/15/western_australia_contact_tracing_law/ [21:07] tr-bridge [AdmFubar/tr] https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2021/06/15/western_australia_contact_tracing_law/ [21:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Western Australia rushes out legislation after cops access contact-tracing data to investigate serious crimes The Register [21:07] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] www.theregister.com | Western Australia rushes out legislation after cops access contact-tracing data to investigate serious crimes The Register [21:07] techrights-bot Send Messages From Your Scripts To Multiple Messaging Platforms Using #PingMe https://www.linuxuprising.com/2021/06/send-messages-from-your-scripts-to.html [21:07] techrights-bot/fn Send Messages From Your Scripts To Multiple Messaging Platforms Using #PingMe https://www.linuxuprising.com/2021/06/send-messages-from-your-scripts-to.html [21:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxuprising.com | Send Messages From Your Scripts To Multiple Messaging Platforms Using PingMe - Linux Uprising Blog [21:07] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] www.linuxuprising.com | Send Messages From Your Scripts To Multiple Messaging Platforms Using PingMe - Linux Uprising Blog [21:07] AdmFubar https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2021/06/15/high_court_winds_up_it_scam_companies/ [21:07] *AVRS (~AVRS@freenode-m9s.dib.q4k72j.IP) has joined #techrights [21:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Brit IT firms wound up by court order after fooling folk into paying for 'support' over fake computer errors The Register [21:07] tr-bridge [AdmFubar/tr] https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2021/06/15/high_court_winds_up_it_scam_companies/ [21:07] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] www.theregister.com | Brit IT firms wound up by court order after fooling folk into paying for 'support' over fake computer errors The Register [21:08] *AVRS has quit (Quit: WeeChat 3.0) [21:08] AdmFubar https://www.theinformation.com/articles/amazons-airplanes-move-cargo-for-u-s-postal-service [21:08] tr-bridge [AdmFubar/tr] https://www.theinformation.com/articles/amazons-airplanes-move-cargo-for-u-s-postal-service [21:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theinformation.com | Amazons Airplanes Move Cargo for U.S. Postal Service The Information [21:08] techrights-bot The Crumble Deck is a Stream Deck alternative based on an Arduino Due | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/06/15/the-crumble-deck-is-a-stream-deck-alternative-based-on-an-arduino-due/ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/15/#latest [21:08] techrights-bot/fn The Crumble Deck is a Stream Deck alternative based on an Arduino Due | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/06/15/the-crumble-deck-is-a-stream-deck-alternative-based-on-an-arduino-due/ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/15/#latest [21:08] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] www.theinformation.com | Amazons Airplanes Move Cargo for U.S. Postal Service The Information [21:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | The Crumble Deck is a Stream Deck alternative based on an Arduino Due | Arduino Blog [21:08] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] blog.arduino.cc | The Crumble Deck is a Stream Deck alternative based on an Arduino Due | Arduino Blog [21:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [21:08] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [21:10] techrights-bot #contacttracing was all along partly a scam or a ploy https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/15/western_australia_contact_tracing_law/ [21:10] techrights-bot/fn #contacttracing was all along partly a scam or a ploy https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/15/western_australia_contact_tracing_law/ [21:11] techrights-bot 100 Paper Cuts as a new student mentoring activity https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2021/06/15/student-mentoring-activity/ #documentfoundation #libreoffice [21:11] techrights-bot/fn 100 Paper Cuts as a new student mentoring activity https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2021/06/15/student-mentoring-activity/ #documentfoundation #libreoffice [21:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.documentfoundation.org | 100 Paper Cuts as a new student mentoring activity - The Document Foundation Blog [21:11] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] blog.documentfoundation.org | 100 Paper Cuts as a new student mentoring activity - The Document Foundation Blog [21:13] DaemonFC Most places that let you take your mask off if you're vaccinated don't actually check. [21:13] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] Most places that let you take your mask off if you're vaccinated don't actually check. [21:14] DaemonFC We were at the Chinese restaurant yesterday and I won't even say who it was who wasn't wearing their masks or gloves (or at least using the hand sanitizer) at the buffet because it would get schestowitz riled up, but we know. Pretty gross honestly. [21:14] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] We were at the Chinese restaurant yesterday and I won't even say who it was who wasn't wearing their masks or gloves (or at least using the hand sanitizer) at the buffet because it would get schestowitz riled up, but we know. Pretty gross honestly. [21:15] DaemonFC They're cramming people in booth-to-booth again, and so we're back to someone else's child throwing spoons at you while you're eating. [21:15] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] They're cramming people in booth-to-booth again, and so we're back to someone else's child throwing spoons at you while you're eating. [21:15] schestowitz you can talk about it in non-tech forums [21:15] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] you can talk about it in non-tech forums [21:15] schestowitz we want to improve s/n ratio [21:15] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] we want to improve s/n ratio [21:16] DaemonFC That was with regards to the Linux Foundation requiring vaccines. Do they even check? [21:16] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] That was with regards to the Linux Foundation requiring vaccines. Do they even check? [21:17] techrights-bot " #OpenEmbed EdgeBox-RPi4 is an industrial controller based on #RaspberryPi Compute Module 4 fitted with up to 4GB RAM, 32GB eMMC flash, and a 2.4/5GHz WiFi & Bluetooth 5.0 wireless module." https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/06/15/edgebox-rpi4-industrial-controller-offers-rs485-rs232-interfaces-isolated-di-do/ [21:17] techrights-bot/fn " #OpenEmbed EdgeBox-RPi4 is an industrial controller based on #RaspberryPi Compute Module 4 fitted with up to 4GB RAM, 32GB eMMC flash, and a 2.4/5GHz WiFi & Bluetooth 5.0 wireless module." https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/06/15/edgebox-rpi4-industrial-controller-offers-rs485-rs232-interfaces-isolated-di-do/ [21:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | EdgeBox-RPi4 industrial controller offers RS485, RS232 interfaces, isolated DI/DO - CNX Software [21:17] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] www.cnx-software.com | EdgeBox-RPi4 industrial controller offers RS485, RS232 interfaces, isolated DI/DO - CNX Software [21:17] DaemonFC Illinois says it will stop posting daily COVID data because the new cases have dropped to the point where it's no longer efficient to do that. [21:17] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] Illinois says it will stop posting daily COVID data because the new cases have dropped to the point where it's no longer efficient to do that. [21:17] schestowitz DaemonFC: I thought the same about LF [21:17] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] DaemonFC: I thought the same about LF [21:17] schestowitz they need to test [21:17] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] they need to test [21:17] DaemonFC Trump's been gone for 6 months and federal money drying up. What's the point? [21:17] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] Trump's been gone for 6 months and federal money drying up. What's the point? [21:17] schestowitz more important than a booklet or "app" [21:17] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] more important than a booklet or "app" [21:17] schestowitz we do about 1 million tests in the UK each day [21:17] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] we do about 1 million tests in the UK each day [21:18] schestowitz about 0.7% come out positive [21:18] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] about 0.7% come out positive [21:18] schestowitz and those one millions aren't just picked at random [21:18] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] and those one millions aren't just picked at random [21:18] DaemonFC Illinois says 0.8% positivity rate over past 7 days as of this morning. [21:18] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] Illinois says 0.8% positivity rate over past 7 days as of this morning. [21:18] DaemonFC Well, duh doy. Half got the vaccine and the other half got COVID. [21:18] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] Well, duh doy. Half got the vaccine and the other half got COVID. [21:19] DaemonFC The people getting sick now are those rounding error people that didn't get either and it's still out there, kinda. [21:19] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] The people getting sick now are those rounding error people that didn't get either and it's still out there, kinda. [21:19] techrights-bot/fn C++ Coroutines, or "why are the templates failing aaaaaAAAAAAA" https://blog.blackquill.cc/c-coroutines-or-why-are-the-templates-failing-aaaaaaaaaaaa [21:19] techrights-bot C++ Coroutines, or "why are the templates failing aaaaaAAAAAAA" https://blog.blackquill.cc/c-coroutines-or-why-are-the-templates-failing-aaaaaaaaaaaa [21:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.blackquill.cc | C++ Coroutines, or "why are the templates failing aaaaaAAAAAAA" Janet's Shenanigans [21:19] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] blog.blackquill.cc | C++ Coroutines, or "why are the templates failing aaaaaAAAAAAA" Janet's Shenanigans [21:19] DaemonFC We're just not going to improve much from where we're at now. [21:19] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] We're just not going to improve much from where we're at now. [21:19] techrights-bot "We are happy to announce that Kiwi TCMS has been downloaded more than 500000 times via Docker Hub! You can check the real-time stats here." Going #freesw helped them a LOT! https://kiwitcms.org/blog/kiwi-tcms-team/2021/06/15/thank-you-for-downloading-kiwi-tcms-500000-times/ [21:19] techrights-bot/fn "We are happy to announce that Kiwi TCMS has been downloaded more than 500000 times via Docker Hub! You can check the real-time stats here." Going #freesw helped them a LOT! https://kiwitcms.org/blog/kiwi-tcms-team/2021/06/15/thank-you-for-downloading-kiwi-tcms-500000-times/ [21:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kiwitcms.org | Kiwi TCMS - Thank you for downloading Kiwi TCMS 500000 times [21:19] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] kiwitcms.org | Kiwi TCMS - Thank you for downloading Kiwi TCMS 500000 times [21:20] techrights-bot Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152321 [21:20] techrights-bot/fn Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152321 [21:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [21:20] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [21:20] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) [21:20] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@7safqch7wi29k.irc) has joined #techrights [21:20] techrights-bot #Security -Oriented #AlpineLinux 3.14 Released with KDE Plasma 5.22, QEMU 6.0, and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152322 [21:20] techrights-bot/fn #Security -Oriented #AlpineLinux 3.14 Released with KDE Plasma 5.22, QEMU 6.0, and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152322 [21:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security-Oriented Alpine Linux 3.14 Released with KDE Plasma 5.22, QEMU 6.0, and More | Tux Machines [21:20] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] www.tuxmachines.org | Security-Oriented Alpine Linux 3.14 Released with KDE Plasma 5.22, QEMU 6.0, and More | Tux Machines [21:20] *xvx (~xvx@freenode-u2v.ikr.bpirtv.IP) has joined #techrights [21:21] DaemonFC schestowitz, Going back to "smart" cars, I suppose I have several years. [21:21] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] schestowitz, Going back to "smart" cars, I suppose I have several years. [21:22] schestowitz yes, I like the topic [21:22] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] yes, I like the topic [21:22] XRevan86 happytree is down [21:22] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] happytree is down [21:22] schestowitz because it's scarcely discussed [21:22] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] because it's scarcely discussed [21:22] DaemonFC The only thing that's really wrong with the Impala right now is that it's been developing rust, but I probably have at least 4 years before that starts to be a structural integrity problem. [21:22] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] The only thing that's really wrong with the Impala right now is that it's been developing rust, but I probably have at least 4 years before that starts to be a structural integrity problem. [21:22] schestowitz do you want to write articles about it? [21:22] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] do you want to write articles about it? [21:22] schestowitz we need to analyse where those things are going [21:22] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] we need to analyse where those things are going [21:22] *Noisytoot (noisytoot@freenode/user/Noisytoot) has joined #techrights [21:22] DaemonFC I was very unhappy with the Android Auto update right before the bank took the 2018 Kia back. [21:22] schestowitz XRevan86: some machines of mine cannot connect at all, soo.... [21:22] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] I was very unhappy with the Android Auto update right before the bank took the 2018 Kia back. [21:22] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] XRevan86: some machines of mine cannot connect at all, soo.... [21:23] *tr-bridge_ (~tr-bridge@freenode-r5h.j1m.o22d29.IP) has joined #techrights [21:23] schestowitz don't add up numbers now, XRevan86, you won't count the ones who want to be in but cannot [21:23] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] don't add up numbers now, XRevan86, you won't count the ones who want to be in but cannot [21:23] tr-bridge/fc [schestowitz/tr] don't add up numbers now, XRevan86, you won't count the ones who want to be in but cannot [21:23] tr-bridge [tr-bridge/fc] [schestowitz/tr] don't add up numbers now, XRevan86, you won't count the ones who want to be in but cannot [21:23] DaemonFC Almost nothing worked correctly anymore and they changed it to look like Apple Carplay. [21:23] tr-bridge [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [schestowitz/tr] don't add up numbers now, XRevan86, you won't count the ones who want to be in but cannot [21:23] tr-bridge/fc [tr-bridge/fc] [schestowitz/tr] don't add up numbers now, XRevan86, you won't count the ones who want to be in but cannot [21:23] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] Almost nothing worked correctly anymore and they changed it to look like Apple Carplay. [21:23] tr-bridge/fc [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [schestowitz/tr] don't add up numbers now, XRevan86, you won't count the ones who want to be in but cannot [21:23] tr-bridge [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [schestowitz/tr] don't add up numbers now, XRevan86, you won't count the ones who want to be in but cannot [21:23] tr-bridge/fc [DaemonFC/tr] Almost nothing worked correctly anymore and they changed it to look like Apple Carplay. [21:23] tr-bridge [tr-bridge/fc] [DaemonFC/tr] Almost nothing worked correctly anymore and they changed it to look like Apple Carplay. [21:23] tr-bridge/fc [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [schestowitz/tr] don't add up numbers now, XRevan86, you won't count the ones who want to be in but cannot [21:23] tr-bridge [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [schestowitz/tr] don't add up numbers now, XRevan86, you won't count the ones who want to be in but cannot [21:23] tr-bridge/fc [tr-bridge/fc] [DaemonFC/tr] Almost nothing worked correctly anymore and they changed it to look like Apple Carplay. [21:23] tr-bridge [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [DaemonFC/tr] Almost nothing worked correctly anymore and they changed it to look like Apple Carplay. [21:23] tr-bridge/fc [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [schestowitz/tr] don't add up numbers now, XRevan86, you won't count the ones who want to be in but cannot [21:23] tr-bridge [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [schestowitz/tr] don't add up numbers now, XRevan86, you won't count the ones who want to be in but cannot [21:23] tr-bridge/fc [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [DaemonFC/tr] Almost nothing worked correctly anymore and they changed it to look like Apple Carplay. [21:23] tr-bridge [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [DaemonFC/tr] Almost nothing worked correctly anymore and they changed it to look like Apple Carplay. [21:23] tr-bridge/fc [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [schestowitz/tr] don't add up numbers now, XRevan86, you won't count the ones who want to be in but cannot [21:23] tr-bridge [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [schestowitz/tr] don't add up numbers now, XRevan86, you won't count the ones who want to be in but cannot [21:23] tr-bridge/fc [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [DaemonFC/tr] Almost nothing worked correctly anymore and they changed it to look like Apple Carplay. [21:23] *Noisytoot_ (noisytoot@freenode-qta.chu.1ues71.IP) has joined #techrights [21:23] tr-bridge [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [DaemonFC/tr] Almost nothing worked correctly anymore and they changed it to look like Apple Carplay. [21:23] tr-bridge/fc [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [schestowitz/tr] don't add up numbers now, XRevan86, you won't count the ones who want to be in but cannot [21:23] tr-bridge [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [schestowitz/tr] don't add up numbers now, XRevan86, you won't count the ones who want to be in but cannot [21:23] tr-bridge/fc [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [DaemonFC/tr] Almost nothing worked correctly anymore and they changed it to look like Apple Carplay. [21:23] tr-bridge [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [DaemonFC/tr] Almost nothing worked correctly anymore and they changed it to look like Apple Carplay. [21:23] tr-bridge/fc [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [schestowitz/tr] don't add up numbers now, XRevan86, you won't count the ones who want to be in but cannot [21:23] tr-bridge [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [schestowitz/tr] don't add up numbers now, XRevan86, you won't count the ones who want to be in but cannot [21:23] tr-bridge/fc [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [DaemonFC/tr] Almost nothing worked correctly anymore and they changed it to look like Apple Carplay. [21:23] tr-bridge [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [DaemonFC/tr] Almost nothing worked correctly anymore and they changed it to look like Apple Carplay. [21:23] tr-bridge/fc [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [schestowitz/tr] don't add up numbers now, XRevan86, you won't count the ones who want to be in but cannot [21:23] tr-bridge [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [schestowitz/tr] don't add up numbers now, XRevan86, you won't count the ones who want to be in but cannot [21:23] tr-bridge/fc [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [DaemonFC/tr] Almost nothing worked correctly anymore and they changed it to look like Apple Carplay. [21:23] tr-bridge [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [DaemonFC/tr] Almost nothing worked correctly anymore and they changed it to look like Apple Carplay. [21:23] tr-bridge/fc [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [schestowitz/tr] don't add up numbers now, XRevan86, you won't count the ones who want to be in but cannot [21:23] tr-bridge [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [schestowitz/tr] don't add up numbers now, XRevan86, you won't count the ones who want to be in but cannot [21:23] tr-bridge/fc [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [DaemonFC/tr] Almost nothing worked correctly anymore and they changed it to look like Apple Carplay. [21:23] tr-bridge [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [DaemonFC/tr] Almost nothing worked correctly anymore and they changed it to look like Apple Carplay. [21:23] tr-bridge/fc [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [schestowitz/tr] don't add up numbers now, XRevan86, you won't count the ones who want to be in but cannot [21:23] schestowitz lol [21:23] tr-bridge [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [schestowitz/tr] don't add up numbers now, XRevan86, you won't count the ones who want to be in but cannot [21:23] tr-bridge/fc [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [DaemonFC/tr] Almost nothing worked correctly anymore and they changed it to look like Apple Carplay. [21:23] tr-bridge [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [DaemonFC/tr] Almost nothing worked correctly anymore and they changed it to look like Apple Carplay. [21:23] tr-bridge/fc [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [schestowitz/tr] don't add up numbers now, XRevan86, you won't count the ones who want to be in but cannot [21:23] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] lol [21:23] tr-bridge/fc [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [DaemonFC/tr] Almost nothing worked correctly anymore and they changed it to look like Apple Carplay. [21:23] schestowitz XRevan86: ^ [21:23] tr-bridge [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [schestowitz/tr] don't add up numbers now, XRevan86, you won't count the ones who want to be in but cannot [21:23] tr-bridge/fc [schestowitz/tr] lol [21:23] tr-bridge [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [DaemonFC/tr] Almost nothing worked correctly anymore and they changed it to look like Apple Carplay. [21:23] tr-bridge/fc [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [schestowitz/tr] don't add up numbers now, XRevan86, you won't count the ones who want to be in but cannot [21:23] tr-bridge [tr-bridge/fc] [schestowitz/tr] lol [21:23] tr-bridge/fc [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [DaemonFC/tr] Almost nothing worked correctly anymore and they changed it to look like Apple Carplay. [21:23] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] XRevan86: ^ [21:23] tr-bridge/fc [tr-bridge/fc] [schestowitz/tr] lol [21:23] tr-bridge [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [schestowitz/tr] don't add up numbers now, XRevan86, you won't count the ones who want to be in but cannot [21:23] tr-bridge/fc [schestowitz/tr] XRevan86: ^ [21:23] tr-bridge [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [DaemonFC/tr] Almost nothing worked correctly anymore and they changed it to look like Apple Carplay. [21:23] tr-bridge/ [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [schestowitz/tr] don't add up numbers now, XRevan86, you won't count the ones who want to be in but cannot [21:23] tr-bridge_ [schestowitz/tr] don't add up numbers now, XRevan86, you won't count the ones who want to be in but cannot [21:23] tr-bridge [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [schestowitz/tr] lol [21:23] tr-bridge/ [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [DaemonFC/tr] Almost nothing worked correctly anymore and they changed it to look like Apple Carplay. [21:23] tr-bridge [tr-bridge/fc] [schestowitz/tr] XRevan86: ^ [21:23] tr-bridge_/fn [schestowitz/tr] don't add up numbers now, XRevan86, you won't count the ones who want to be in but cannot [21:23] tr-bridge [tr-bridge/] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [schestowitz/tr] don't add up numbers now, XRevan86, you won't count the ones who want to be in but cannot [21:23] tr-bridge/ [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [schestowitz/tr] lol [21:23] tr-bridge [tr-bridge/] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [DaemonFC/tr] Almost nothing worked correctly anymore and they changed it to look like Apple Carplay. [21:23] tr-bridge/ [tr-bridge/fc] [schestowitz/tr] XRevan86: ^ [21:23] tr-bridge [tr-bridge/] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [schestowitz/tr] lol [21:23] tr-bridge/ [tr-bridge/] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [schestowitz/tr] don't add up numbers now, XRevan86, you won't count the ones who want to be in but cannot [21:23] tr-bridge [tr-bridge/] [tr-bridge/fc] [schestowitz/tr] XRevan86: ^ [21:23] tr-bridge/ [tr-bridge/] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [DaemonFC/tr] Almost nothing worked correctly anymore and they changed it to look like Apple Carplay. [21:23] tr-bridge [tr-bridge/] [tr-bridge/] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [schestowitz/tr] don't add up numbers now, XRevan86, you won't count the ones who want to be in but cannot [21:23] tr-bridge/ [tr-bridge/] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [schestowitz/tr] lol [21:23] *tr-bridge_ has quit (Connection closed) [21:23] tr-bridge [tr-bridge/] [tr-bridge/] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [tr-bridge/fc] [DaemonFC/tr] Almost nothing worked correctly anymore and they changed it to look like Apple Carplay. [21:23] *bridge has quit (connection closed) [21:23] *tr-bridge has quit (Connection closed) [21:24] schestowitz haha [21:24] *bridge (~bridge@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #techrights [21:24] *irc.techrights.org gives channel operator status to bridge [21:24] schestowitz quality [21:24] *bridge has quit (connection closed) [21:24] XRevan86 oh shit [21:24] *bridge (~bridge@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #techrights [21:24] *irc.techrights.org gives channel operator status to bridge [21:24] schestowitz feedback loop [21:24] *bridge has quit (connection closed) [21:24] XRevan86 I didn't remake it in time [21:24] *bridge (~bridge@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #techrights [21:24] *irc.techrights.org gives channel operator status to bridge [21:24] *bridge has quit (connection closed) [21:24] schestowitz [21:22] The only thing that's really wrong with the Impala right now is that it's been developing rust, but I probably have at least 4 years before that starts to be a structural integrity problem. [21:24] schestowitz [21:22] I was very unhappy with the Android Auto update right before the bank took the 2018 Kia back. [21:24] *bridge (~bridge@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #techrights [21:24] *irc.techrights.org gives channel operator status to bridge [21:24] *bridge has quit (connection closed) [21:24] schestowitz that's where we were [21:24] *bridge (~bridge@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #techrights [21:24] *irc.techrights.org gives channel operator status to bridge [21:24] *bridge has quit (connection closed) [21:24] *bridge (~bridge@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #techrights [21:24] *irc.techrights.org gives channel operator status to bridge [21:24] *bridge has quit (connection closed) [21:24] *bridge (~bridge@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #techrights [21:24] *irc.techrights.org gives channel operator status to bridge [21:24] *bridge has quit (connection closed) [21:24] *bridge (~bridge@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #techrights [21:24] *irc.techrights.org gives channel operator status to bridge [21:24] *bridge has quit (connection closed) [21:25] schestowitz now we have cars that do 'remote updates' [21:25] *bridge (~bridge@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #techrights [21:25] *irc.techrights.org gives channel operator status to bridge [21:25] *bridge has quit (connection closed) [21:25] *bridge (~bridge@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #techrights [21:25] *irc.techrights.org gives channel operator status to bridge [21:25] *bridge has quit (connection closed) [21:25] schestowitz so that leads to all sorts of catastrophic situations [21:25] *bridge (~bridge@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #techrights [21:25] *irc.techrights.org gives channel operator status to bridge [21:25] *bridge has quit (connection closed) [21:25] *bridge (~bridge@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #techrights [21:25] *irc.techrights.org gives channel operator status to bridge [21:25] *bridge has quit (connection closed) [21:25] XRevan86 the heck [21:25] schestowitz told you freenode was broken for now [21:25] *cybrNaut has quit (Z-lined) [21:25] schestowitz it's hard to even connect to it [21:25] *bridge (~bridge@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #techrights [21:25] *irc.techrights.org gives channel operator status to bridge [21:25] *bridge has quit (connection closed) [21:26] *bridge (~bridge@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #techrights [21:26] *irc.techrights.org gives channel operator status to bridge [21:26] *bridge has quit (connection closed) [21:26] MinceR happytree is down [21:26] *bridge (~bridge@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #techrights [21:26] *irc.techrights.org gives channel operator status to bridge [21:26] *bridge has quit (connection closed) [21:26] *bridge (~bridge@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #techrights [21:26] *irc.techrights.org gives channel operator status to bridge [21:26] *bridge has quit (connection closed) [21:27] XRevan86 the bridge is also down [21:27] schestowitz a bridge needs two functional sides [21:27] schestowitz now it seems only one is working [21:27] *Noisytoot is now known as Noisytoot__ [21:27] schestowitz [21:25] <-- cybrNaut (~cybrNaut@freenode-tto.k1n.ssv8hv.IP) has left this server (Z-lined). [21:28] schestowitz it that a joke, z-lined? [21:28] MinceR z-line is similar to k-line but it's raw ip address only [21:28] XRevan86 probably [21:28] MinceR it works earlier and faster [21:28] MinceR i'm guessing they put a z-line that matches everything as a preparation to take down the server [21:28] MinceR or to disconnect all users from it [21:29] schestowitz i.e. business as usual [21:29] XRevan86 > Connecting chat.freenode.net:6667 [21:29] XRevan86 > disconnect: error: EOF [21:30] XRevan86 ah, they won't allow any more connections from me [21:30] schestowitz if there is no bridge, I will need to move over the tr-bot or wait for a while [21:30] *slep (~slep@freenode-qsp.gab.b0a97s.IP) has joined #techrights [21:30] *smnthermes (~smntherme@freenode-nm6.qm0.fb1unj.IP) has joined #techrights [21:30] schestowitz XRevan86: same from me [21:30] *tessier (~treed@freenode-3mi.kfs.m2ogsd.IP) has joined #techrights [21:30] *cubeman_ (~cubeman@freenode-r7q.87s.ifko2h.IP) has joined #techrights [21:30] schestowitz it's not personal [21:30] *rsheftel1435 (~rsheftel@freenode-mof.jrk.61q2tv.IP) has joined #techrights [21:30] CrystalMath on my channel [21:30] XRevan86 schestowitz: I'll just hardcode an IPv4 address to workaround this. [21:30] CrystalMath we had a bridge between old freenode and new freenode [21:30] CrystalMath and a server moved [21:30] *whytek (~whytek@freenode-7t7.mbl.m1mpg8.IP) has joined #techrights [21:30] schestowitz lol! [21:30] XRevan86 CrystalMath: old freenode is no more [21:30] CrystalMath causing the bridge to bridge to itself [21:31] CrystalMath XRevan86: still there, on hostsailor :) [21:31] CrystalMath i am writing farewells to good old charybdis [21:31] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Yea, I was in the middle of fixing the config when this happened. [21:31] CrystalMath schestowitz: so we had recursion [21:31] CrystalMath :P [21:31] CrystalMath i had to ban just one of the bridge's nicks [21:31] XRevan86 unfortunate timing [21:31] CrystalMath handled it though [21:31] schestowitz hard to focus on non-IRC topics today [21:31] schestowitz it's a good thing news is relatively slow [21:31] *Noisytoot_ has quit (Connection closed) [21:32] schestowitz because a lot of energy (in many projects) is devoted to this [21:32] *bridge (~bridge@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #techrights [21:32] *irc.techrights.org gives channel operator status to bridge [21:32] schestowitz LC movers bought all of today's popcorn [21:32] *tr-bridge (~tr-bridge@freenode/user/tr-bridge) has joined #techrights [21:32] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] LC movers bought all of today's popcorn [21:32] XRevan86 schestowitz: Yea, it's been smooth sailing for them. [21:32] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: Yea, it's been smooth sailing for them. [21:32] schestowitz except many of their users never moved [21:32] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] except many of their users never moved [21:32] *Noisytoot (noisytoot@freenode/user/Noisytoot) has joined #techrights [21:32] schestowitz so their old platform burns too [21:32] *rMdes (~rMdes_@freenode-9up.7e2.5rrqto.IP) has joined #techrights [21:32] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] so their old platform burns too [21:33] schestowitz first channels confiscated [21:33] DaemonFC The Kia Android Auto update was so bad that I went back to using the screen on my phone and plugging it into the 3.5 mm port on the radio. [21:33] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] first channels confiscated [21:33] XRevan86 schestowitz: Extra motivator [21:33] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] The Kia Android Auto update was so bad that I went back to using the screen on my phone and plugging it into the 3.5 mm port on the radio. [21:33] schestowitz and now this [21:33] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: Extra motivator [21:33] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] and now this [21:33] schestowitz DaemonFC: who even connect a computer to a car like that? [21:33] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] DaemonFC: who even connect a computer to a car like that? [21:33] schestowitz it's not even innovative [21:33] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] it's not even innovative [21:33] schestowitz I put the laptop in my cars in the 90s [21:33] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] I put the laptop in my cars in the 90s [21:33] schestowitz and I played music from that [21:33] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] and I played music from that [21:33] schestowitz *car [21:33] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] *car [21:34] MinceR schestowitz: those who tried every single method of fixing the phone to the dashboard for navigation and all of them failed [21:34] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] schestowitz: those who tried every single method of fixing the phone to the dashboard for navigation and all of them failed [21:34] MinceR i tried suction cups on the windshield -> came off, sometimes even the phone holder came to pieces [21:34] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] i tried suction cups on the windshield -> came off, sometimes even the phone holder came to pieces [21:34] schestowitz haha, yes [21:34] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] haha, yes [21:34] schestowitz hilarity ensues [21:34] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] hilarity ensues [21:34] MinceR i tried a holder that goes into the vent -> it tore out one of the vent lamellae [21:34] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] i tried a holder that goes into the vent -> it tore out one of the vent lamellae [21:34] schestowitz "OK Google' [21:34] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] "OK Google' [21:34] MinceR i stuck one to the dashboard -> it worked, but there was a lot of sunlight reflected from the screen [21:34] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] i stuck one to the dashboard -> it worked, but there was a lot of sunlight reflected from the screen [21:35] MinceR compared to those, android auto is a dream [21:35] schestowitz "listen to all the passengers" [21:35] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] compared to those, android auto is a dream [21:35] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] "listen to all the passengers" [21:35] *ohama has quit (Z-lined) [21:36] MinceR wait, they're z-lining people on the _new_ network [21:36] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] wait, they're z-lining people on the _new_ network [21:36] MinceR wtf [21:36] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] wtf [21:36] schestowitz lol [21:36] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] lol [21:36] *Noisytoot__ has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in) [21:36] schestowitz brb popcorn [21:36] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] brb popcorn [21:38] CrystalMath MinceR: seems to be some automatic thing [21:38] tr-bridge [CrystalMath/tr] MinceR: seems to be some automatic thing [21:40] *alynpost has quit (Z-lined) [21:40] DaemonFC Yeah, Android Auto freezes a lot and you have to yank it out of the USB port and plug it back in. [21:40] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] Yeah, Android Auto freezes a lot and you have to yank it out of the USB port and plug it back in. [21:40] DaemonFC It's terrible. [21:40] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] It's terrible. [21:41] schestowitz glad I stopped worrying about such things [21:41] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] glad I stopped worrying about such things [21:42] *AVRS (~AVRS@freenode-m9s.dib.q4k72j.IP) has joined #techrights [21:42] MinceR it doesn't freeze in my car [21:42] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] it doesn't freeze in my car [21:42] *AVRS has quit (Quit: WeeChat 3.0) [21:42] techrights-bot Testing cameras with lc-compliance on #KernelCI https://www.collabora.com/news-and-blog/blog/2021/06/15/testing-cameras-with-lc-compliance-on-kernelci/ #programming #chromeos #collabora [21:42] techrights-bot/fn Testing cameras with lc-compliance on #KernelCI https://www.collabora.com/news-and-blog/blog/2021/06/15/testing-cameras-with-lc-compliance-on-kernelci/ #programming #chromeos #collabora [21:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.collabora.com | Testing cameras with lc-compliance on KernelCI [21:42] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] www.collabora.com | Testing cameras with lc-compliance on KernelCI [21:44] techrights-bot "Like most online manuals, the Krita manual has a contributors guide. Its filled with things like who is our assumed audience?, what is the dialect of English we should use?, etc. Its not a perfect guide, outdated in places, definitely, but I think it does its job." #kde #krita https://wolthera.info/2021/06/simplifying-grammar-checks-for-manuals/ [21:44] techrights-bot/fn "Like most online manuals, the Krita manual has a contributors guide. Its filled with things like who is our assumed audience?, what is the dialect of English we should use?, etc. Its not a perfect guide, outdated in places, definitely, but I think it does its job." #kde #krita https://wolthera.info/2021/06/simplifying-grammar-checks-for-manuals/ [21:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Simplifying Grammar Checks for Manuals. Wolthera.info [21:44] *Noisytoot is now known as noisytoot[x] [21:44] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] Simplifying Grammar Checks for Manuals. Wolthera.info [21:45] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/2105137 [21:45] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] https://ircz.de/p/2105137 [21:45] DaemonFC I'm trying to figure out how to renew Mandy's passport. [21:45] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] I'm trying to figure out how to renew Mandy's passport. [21:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5453307) [21:45] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5453307) [21:45] techrights-bot In some places you can please people with a t-shirt... https://robbinespu.gitlab.io/blog/2021/06/15/openSUSE-VirtualConf-21/ [21:45] techrights-bot/fn In some places you can please people with a t-shirt... https://robbinespu.gitlab.io/blog/2021/06/15/openSUSE-VirtualConf-21/ [21:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-robbinespu.gitlab.io | openSUSE Virtual Conf. 21 t-shirt (FREE!) | RNM [21:45] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] robbinespu.gitlab.io | openSUSE Virtual Conf. 21 t-shirt (FREE!) | RNM [21:45] schestowitz DaemonFC: sounds OT already ^_^ [21:45] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] DaemonFC: sounds OT already ^_^ [21:46] DaemonFC Their online appointment thing says only Los Angeles is taking appointments, but a friend of his got his renewed in Chicago somehow. [21:46] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] Their online appointment thing says only Los Angeles is taking appointments, but a friend of his got his renewed in Chicago somehow. [21:46] MinceR maybe we could create an unofficial, unlogged channel for such things [21:46] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] maybe we could create an unofficial, unlogged channel for such things [21:46] MinceR which could serve as a backup for when there are issues on the other communication channels :> [21:46] DaemonFC The only thing worse than figuring out MY government's websites. [21:46] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] which could serve as a backup for when there are issues on the other communication channels :> [21:46] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] The only thing worse than figuring out MY government's websites. [21:47] techrights-bot "In this video, I am going to show an overview of #openSUSE 15.3 and some of the applications pre-installed." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8km49DoPzts [21:47] techrights-bot/fn "In this video, I am going to show an overview of #openSUSE 15.3 and some of the applications pre-installed." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8km49DoPzts [21:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-openSUSE 15.3 overview | The makers' choice for sysadmins, developers and desktop users. - YouTube [21:47] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] openSUSE 15.3 overview | The makers' choice for sysadmins, developers and desktop users. - YouTube [21:52] DaemonFC GM keeps acting like they're this Great White Shark that doesn't have to evolve. And as long as the government forces us to eat their losses and start them fresh that's the truth. [21:52] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] GM keeps acting like they're this Great White Shark that doesn't have to evolve. And as long as the government forces us to eat their losses and start them fresh that's the truth. [21:53] DaemonFC They can make cars that guzzle gas and are less reliable than Lada or Trabant and just keep going on, even in the middle of tons of competitors who should have killed them. [21:53] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] They can make cars that guzzle gas and are less reliable than Lada or Trabant and just keep going on, even in the middle of tons of competitors who should have killed them. [21:54] DaemonFC Even with engines that literally explode and brake fluid that catches fire, Kia was the 9th most reliable brand in America in 2019, and GM had fallen to #21. [21:54] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] Even with engines that literally explode and brake fluid that catches fire, Kia was the 9th most reliable brand in America in 2019, and GM had fallen to #21. [21:54] AdmFubar schestowitz: sounds like you need an OT channel [21:54] tr-bridge [AdmFubar/tr] schestowitz: sounds like you need an OT channel [21:54] techrights-bot Sovereignty on a Federated System: problems we faced on GNOMEs Matrix instance http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152323 [21:54] techrights-bot/fn Sovereignty on a Federated System: problems we faced on GNOMEs Matrix instance http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152323 [21:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Sovereignty on a Federated System: problems we faced on GNOMEs Matrix instance | Tux Machines [21:54] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] www.tuxmachines.org | Sovereignty on a Federated System: problems we faced on GNOMEs Matrix instance | Tux Machines [21:54] techrights-bot #IBM / #RedHat /Fedora Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152324 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [21:54] techrights-bot/fn #IBM / #RedHat /Fedora Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152324 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [21:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines [21:54] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines [21:54] DaemonFC Kia keeps saying they'll have a tech inspect the engine and replace it if necessary, but to inspect an engine you have to tear it down, and that takes a long time. [21:54] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] Kia keeps saying they'll have a tech inspect the engine and replace it if necessary, but to inspect an engine you have to tear it down, and that takes a long time. [21:55] schestowitz AdmFubar: we already have that [21:55] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] AdmFubar: we already have that [21:55] DaemonFC So they try to patch the software that runs the engine instead, to avoid the high demand cycles that cause the explosion. [21:55] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] So they try to patch the software that runs the engine instead, to avoid the high demand cycles that cause the explosion. [21:55] schestowitz immutable stuff is better tested before sales [21:55] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] immutable stuff is better tested before sales [21:55] schestowitz so not many mass recalls decades back [21:55] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] so not many mass recalls decades back [21:55] DaemonFC But if the pistons are defective, software can't fix that. So people go in for the recall, they get an engine software flash, and two weeks later their cars explode. [21:55] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] But if the pistons are defective, software can't fix that. So people go in for the recall, they get an engine software flash, and two weeks later their cars explode. [21:55] AdmFubar I checked the description was a lil vague [21:55] tr-bridge [AdmFubar/tr] I checked the description was a lil vague [21:55] schestowitz before the toyota brakes issue [21:55] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] before the toyota brakes issue [21:56] schestowitz we need cars to be "dumb" [21:56] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] we need cars to be "dumb" [21:56] schestowitz cars are for moving [21:56] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] cars are for moving [21:56] schestowitz AdmFubar: looks like he's back on topic already [21:56] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] AdmFubar: looks like he's back on topic already [21:56] schestowitz just needs occasional nudge/reminder [21:56] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] just needs occasional nudge/reminder [21:56] *cybrNaut (~cybrNaut@freenode-tto.k1n.ssv8hv.IP) has joined #techrights [21:56] DaemonFC Well, software has a desirable impact on some parts of how the engine operates, but it's minimally useful. [21:57] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] Well, software has a desirable impact on some parts of how the engine operates, but it's minimally useful. [21:57] schestowitz I think we need to discuss sofwtare freedom wrt cars as few people talk about it [21:57] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] I think we need to discuss sofwtare freedom wrt cars as few people talk about it [21:57] AdmFubar nudge him with a defibrillator... [21:57] tr-bridge [AdmFubar/tr] nudge him with a defibrillator... [21:57] schestowitz the fsf isn't... and I don't know if rms ever drove [21:57] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] the fsf isn't... and I don't know if rms ever drove [21:57] DaemonFC You can use it to optimize transmission shifting points and how the fuel injectors pulse, so you can eek out a bit better performance/gas mileage, but it's not going to be huge. [21:57] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] You can use it to optimize transmission shifting points and how the fuel injectors pulse, so you can eek out a bit better performance/gas mileage, but it's not going to be huge. [21:58] schestowitz rms did warn about microwaves with computers in them, not simple circuitry for timer [21:58] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] rms did warn about microwaves with computers in them, not simple circuitry for timer [21:58] DaemonFC Those Fuel Management Modules that GM uses are a bandaid fix for engines that were obsolete 15 years ago. [21:58] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] Those Fuel Management Modules that GM uses are a bandaid fix for engines that were obsolete 15 years ago. [21:58] schestowitz and he did so back when you'd be ridiculed for saying so [21:58] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] and he did so back when you'd be ridiculed for saying so [21:58] DaemonFC And they can't even get FMMs now because of the computer chip shortage. [21:58] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] And they can't even get FMMs now because of the computer chip shortage. [21:58] DaemonFC So we're back to trucks with the exact same MPG that they had in 2001. [21:58] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] So we're back to trucks with the exact same MPG that they had in 2001. [21:59] techrights-bot #Debian : Raphal Hertzog (LTS Work), Jonathan Dowland (IkiWiki), and Ben Hutchings (Also LTS) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152325 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [21:59] techrights-bot/fn #Debian : Raphal Hertzog (LTS Work), Jonathan Dowland (IkiWiki), and Ben Hutchings (Also LTS) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152325 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [21:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian: Raphal Hertzog (LTS Work), Jonathan Dowland (IkiWiki), and Ben Hutchings (Also LTS) | Tux Machines [21:59] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] www.tuxmachines.org | Debian: Raphal Hertzog (LTS Work), Jonathan Dowland (IkiWiki), and Ben Hutchings (Also LTS) | Tux Machines [21:59] DaemonFC I just got a $65 microwave from Walmart. [21:59] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] I just got a $65 microwave from Walmart. ● Jun 15 [22:00] *phobos (~phobos@freenode-7em.fjl.iiqroa.IP) has joined #techrights [22:00] DaemonFC It's not the most or least expensive model. You don't usually want to buy the most or least expensive model. They skimp too much at the low end and the high end adds questionable features to justify a high price. [22:00] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] It's not the most or least expensive model. You don't usually want to buy the most or least expensive model. They skimp too much at the low end and the high end adds questionable features to justify a high price. [22:01] *noisytoot[x] is now known as Noisytoot [22:01] DaemonFC Many people get burned on a set of quick strut assemlies that they bought off Amazon for their car. But the truth is that many OEMs are using quick struts as factory equipment these days, because the struts arrive fully assembled from somewhere like China and save on expensive labor costs here. [22:01] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] Many people get burned on a set of quick strut assemlies that they bought off Amazon for their car. But the truth is that many OEMs are using quick struts as factory equipment these days, because the struts arrive fully assembled from somewhere like China and save on expensive labor costs here. [22:01] techrights-bot GNU C Library Looking To Drop #FSF #Copyright Assignment Policy http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151827#comment-29957 see http://techrights.org/2021/06/02/gcc-copyright-assignment/ [22:01] techrights-bot/fn GNU C Library Looking To Drop #FSF #Copyright Assignment Policy http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151827#comment-29957 see http://techrights.org/2021/06/02/gcc-copyright-assignment/ [22:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FSF Copyright Assignment and GCC, GCC 9.4 Released | Tux Machines [22:01] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] www.tuxmachines.org | FSF Copyright Assignment and GCC, GCC 9.4 Released | Tux Machines [22:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | It Remains Largely Unclear Whose Idea It Was to Change GCC Copyright Assignment Practices (or How/Why It Started) | Techrights [22:02] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] techrights.org | It Remains Largely Unclear Whose Idea It Was to Change GCC Copyright Assignment Practices (or How/Why It Started) | Techrights [22:02] techrights-bot #LinuxMint 20.2 Beta Is Now Available for Download with Cinnamon 5.0, Xfce 4.16, and MATE 1.24 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152326 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [22:02] techrights-bot/fn #LinuxMint 20.2 Beta Is Now Available for Download with Cinnamon 5.0, Xfce 4.16, and MATE 1.24 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152326 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [22:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint 20.2 Beta Is Now Available for Download with Cinnamon 5.0, Xfce 4.16, and MATE 1.24 | Tux Machines [22:02] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint 20.2 Beta Is Now Available for Download with Cinnamon 5.0, Xfce 4.16, and MATE 1.24 | Tux Machines [22:02] DaemonFC There's a wide range of quality on struts. Usually a company with a brand to protect makes sure that there are more models with measurements that are closer to the OEM's, while no-name products floating around on Amazon will just sell utter crap because they have no brand to protect and Bezos allows, encourages, fake reviews anyway. [22:02] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] There's a wide range of quality on struts. Usually a company with a brand to protect makes sure that there are more models with measurements that are closer to the OEM's, while no-name products floating around on Amazon will just sell utter crap because they have no brand to protect and Bezos allows, encourages, fake reviews anyway. [22:03] DaemonFC Microsoft isn't a company that's worried about protecting a brand. They know full well that people hate Windows. [22:03] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] Microsoft isn't a company that's worried about protecting a brand. They know full well that people hate Windows. [22:04] MinceR 15 225603 <~schestowitz> we need cars to be "dumb" [22:04] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] 15 225603 <~schestowitz> we need cars to be "dumb" [22:04] MinceR they started using ECUs ages ago [22:04] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] they started using ECUs ages ago [22:04] MinceR my 1997 Toyota Carina E already had an ECU and a diagnostic port [22:04] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] my 1997 Toyota Carina E already had an ECU and a diagnostic port [22:04] DaemonFC So I'm very skeptical that Windows 11 is any sort of attempt to back away from persistent quality messes and OEM bloatware. [22:04] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] So I'm very skeptical that Windows 11 is any sort of attempt to back away from persistent quality messes and OEM bloatware. [22:04] DaemonFC Remember they said every version of Windows would be more secure and more reliable, and it's never happened so far. [22:04] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] Remember they said every version of Windows would be more secure and more reliable, and it's never happened so far. [22:04] techrights-bot linux.dev mailboxes for kernel work https://people.kernel.org/monsieuricon/linux-dev-mailboxes-for-kernel-work #linux #kernel #email [22:04] techrights-bot/fn linux.dev mailboxes for kernel work https://people.kernel.org/monsieuricon/linux-dev-mailboxes-for-kernel-work #linux #kernel #email [22:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-people.kernel.org | linux.dev mailboxes for kernel work Konstantin Ryabitsev [22:04] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] people.kernel.org | linux.dev mailboxes for kernel work Konstantin Ryabitsev [22:05] DaemonFC The FBI never even needed a Ransomware division until now, and that's despite Microsoft saying that Windows 10 is constantly getting more secure. If that's true, how did viruses become a national security threat up there with terrorism? [22:05] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] The FBI never even needed a Ransomware division until now, and that's despite Microsoft saying that Windows 10 is constantly getting more secure. If that's true, how did viruses become a national security threat up there with terrorism? [22:06] DaemonFC my 1997 Toyota Carina E already had an ECU and a diagnostic port [22:06] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] my 1997 Toyota Carina E already had an ECU and a diagnostic port [22:06] DaemonFC Generally, a 1996 or later has everything you need to manage the powertrain and diagnose problems as accurately as it's going to. [22:06] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] Generally, a 1996 or later has everything you need to manage the powertrain and diagnose problems as accurately as it's going to. [22:07] MinceR Land Cruiser J70 series aren't even too expensive now [22:07] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] Land Cruiser J70 series aren't even too expensive now [22:07] MinceR used, that is [22:07] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] used, that is [22:07] MinceR unfortunately they all have diesel engines [22:07] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] unfortunately they all have diesel engines [22:08] DaemonFC Those troubleshooting codes only give mechanics an idea about where to start looking. Like, they'll know they're looking for a vacuum leak or something that's throwing a sensor's reading into an out of bounds range or into an impossible disagreement with the other sensors. [22:08] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] Those troubleshooting codes only give mechanics an idea about where to start looking. Like, they'll know they're looking for a vacuum leak or something that's throwing a sensor's reading into an out of bounds range or into an impossible disagreement with the other sensors. [22:08] DaemonFC So, you'll get ABS warnings and it won't be the ABS system itself sometimes. It can be a bad wheel bearing. [22:08] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] So, you'll get ABS warnings and it won't be the ABS system itself sometimes. It can be a bad wheel bearing. [22:08] techrights-bot This runs #debian or #ubuntu https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Jetson-AGX-Xavier-Industrial #gnu #linux #nvidia [22:08] techrights-bot/fn This runs #debian or #ubuntu https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Jetson-AGX-Xavier-Industrial #gnu #linux #nvidia [22:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NVIDIA Launches The Jetson AGX Xavier Industrial Module - Phoronix [22:09] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] NVIDIA Launches The Jetson AGX Xavier Industrial Module - Phoronix [22:09] DaemonFC In fact, that's probably the one good thing about ABS, is that the sensors are pretty sensitive and pick up on bad suspension parts that are rattling around in there well before they make any noise. [22:09] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] In fact, that's probably the one good thing about ABS, is that the sensors are pretty sensitive and pick up on bad suspension parts that are rattling around in there well before they make any noise. [22:10] DaemonFC Having a wheel bearing dislodge itself or seize up on the road out of the blue without making noise is rare, but it can do that. The ABS system probably picks up on it before then. [22:10] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] Having a wheel bearing dislodge itself or seize up on the road out of the blue without making noise is rare, but it can do that. The ABS system probably picks up on it before then. [22:10] MinceR ah, there are 2 sold in germany with gasoline engines [22:10] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] ah, there are 2 sold in germany with gasoline engines [22:10] DaemonFC I will never own a diesel engine. [22:10] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] I will never own a diesel engine. [22:11] *balrog_ (balrog@freenode-vgh.5k7.l98ao4.IP) has joined #techrights [22:11] DaemonFC There's just nothing good about them. Back in the day, diesel used to be cheaper than gas and there weren't very many air pollution laws, but that was then and this is now. [22:11] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] There's just nothing good about them. Back in the day, diesel used to be cheaper than gas and there weren't very many air pollution laws, but that was then and this is now. [22:11] MinceR diesel engines never tolerated short trips well [22:11] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] diesel engines never tolerated short trips well [22:11] MinceR they take longer to heat up [22:11] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] they take longer to heat up [22:12] *birkoff (birkoff@freenode-2mn.d28.de28dt.IP) has joined #techrights [22:12] DaemonFC Gas is cheaper than diesel and with diesel, you get to spend another $3,000+ over the life of the vehicle on Diesel Exhaust Fluid purely for emissions control, and if you don't, the computer puts your car in limp mode and you're limited to 40 miles an hour until there's DEF in there. [22:12] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] Gas is cheaper than diesel and with diesel, you get to spend another $3,000+ over the life of the vehicle on Diesel Exhaust Fluid purely for emissions control, and if you don't, the computer puts your car in limp mode and you're limited to 40 miles an hour until there's DEF in there. [22:12] MinceR maybe not if your car was made in 1993 [22:12] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] maybe not if your car was made in 1993 [22:12] DaemonFC So buying a diesel vs a gasoline engine pickup truck is just dumb. [22:12] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] So buying a diesel vs a gasoline engine pickup truck is just dumb. [22:13] techrights-bot #LinuxFoundation and Kernel: linux.dev, Software Bill of Materials (SBOM), and In-Prson LF Events http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152327 #Kernel #Linux #TuxMachines [22:13] techrights-bot/fn #LinuxFoundation and Kernel: linux.dev, Software Bill of Materials (SBOM), and In-Prson LF Events http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152327 #Kernel #Linux #TuxMachines [22:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation and Kernel: linux.dev, Software Bill of Materials (SBOM), and In-Prson LF Events | Tux Machines [22:13] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation and Kernel: linux.dev, Software Bill of Materials (SBOM), and In-Prson LF Events | Tux Machines [22:13] DaemonFC You will be out SO MUCH MONEY a little bit at a time just buying the stupid emissions fluid that it'll amount to paying interest on your loan to the bank a second time. [22:13] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] You will be out SO MUCH MONEY a little bit at a time just buying the stupid emissions fluid that it'll amount to paying interest on your loan to the bank a second time. [22:14] techrights-bot #Graphics : GravityMark, Mesa, and NVIDIAs Jetson AGX Xavier Industrial Module http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152328 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [22:14] techrights-bot/fn #Graphics : GravityMark, Mesa, and NVIDIAs Jetson AGX Xavier Industrial Module http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152328 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [22:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Graphics: GravityMark, Mesa, and NVIDIA's Jetson AGX Xavier Industrial Module | Tux Machines [22:14] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] www.tuxmachines.org | Graphics: GravityMark, Mesa, and NVIDIA's Jetson AGX Xavier Industrial Module | Tux Machines [22:15] DaemonFC By the time VW had to do those Clean Diesel fraud buybacks, probably almost everyone went and tossed them their keys. I would have. [22:15] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] By the time VW had to do those Clean Diesel fraud buybacks, probably almost everyone went and tossed them their keys. I would have. [22:15] DaemonFC You probably drove the car 4-5 years anyway. It's a VW. It's certainly breaking down a lot by now. [22:15] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] You probably drove the car 4-5 years anyway. It's a VW. It's certainly breaking down a lot by now. [22:15] DaemonFC They have to buy it back at the price you paid? Get em!' [22:15] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] They have to buy it back at the price you paid? Get em!' [22:16] *cybrNaut has quit (Z-lined) [22:16] DaemonFC Go get yourself a Toyota or something. [22:16] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] Go get yourself a Toyota or something. [22:16] DaemonFC Probably the only people who will ever come out ahead on buying a VW. [22:16] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] Probably the only people who will ever come out ahead on buying a VW. [22:17] DaemonFC schestowitz, Welp, the banks are panicking on this housing inflation. [22:17] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] schestowitz, Welp, the banks are panicking on this housing inflation. [22:17] techrights-bot Self-promotional piece disguised thinly as 'article' https://www.androidguys.com/promoted-news/accessing-and-recovering-data-with-a-live-linux-distribution/ [22:17] techrights-bot/fn Self-promotional piece disguised thinly as 'article' https://www.androidguys.com/promoted-news/accessing-and-recovering-data-with-a-live-linux-distribution/ [22:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidguys.com | Accessing and recovering data with a live Linux distribution [22:17] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] www.androidguys.com | Accessing and recovering data with a live Linux distribution [22:17] DaemonFC Mine just sent me a letter saying if I take out a mortgage with them, they'll waive the $1,000 loan origination fee. [22:17] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] Mine just sent me a letter saying if I take out a mortgage with them, they'll waive the $1,000 loan origination fee. [22:17] schestowitz DaemonFC: not for this channel ;-) [22:17] MinceR oh, these are probably too old to have air conditioning [22:17] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] DaemonFC: not for this channel ;-) [22:17] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] oh, these are probably too old to have air conditioning [22:17] MinceR not that great on venus2 :( [22:17] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] not that great on venus2 :( [22:17] DaemonFC Oh good. They wave mystery fees that nobody takes into account until they're signing the papers. Joy! [22:17] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] Oh good. They wave mystery fees that nobody takes into account until they're signing the papers. Joy! [22:18] schestowitz today a friend told me about his car and 'phone' [22:18] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] today a friend told me about his car and 'phone' [22:18] schestowitz turns out it's getting worse [22:18] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] turns out it's getting worse [22:18] schestowitz we spoke on the phone 20+ mins. Summary: [22:18] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] we spoke on the phone 20+ mins. Summary: [22:19] DaemonFC Yeah, my mechanic laughed when he saw a tape adapter hooked up to a USB-C to 3.5 mm adapter. [22:19] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] Yeah, my mechanic laughed when he saw a tape adapter hooked up to a USB-C to 3.5 mm adapter. [22:19] schestowitz [10:48] TIL that some places in town where you want to have a simple little meal require that you have 1) a "phone" and 2) an "NHS app" [22:19] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] [10:48] TIL that some places in town where you want to have a simple little meal require that you have 1) a "phone" and 2) an "NHS app" [22:19] schestowitz [10:49] To make matters yet worse, some places would not serve you here in #manchester anymore unless you 1) carry around a tracking device ("phone") and 2) install THEIR "app". Yes, with your email, address, name and all... even just to order to a little item like coffee [22:19] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] [10:49] To make matters yet worse, some places would not serve you here in #manchester anymore unless you 1) carry around a tracking device ("phone") and 2) install THEIR "app". Yes, with your email, address, name and all... even just to order to a little item like coffee [22:19] MinceR :) [22:19] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] :) [22:19] schestowitz we need to write more about such issues [22:19] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] we need to write more about such issues [22:19] DaemonFC I told him I just plugged the phone into the adapter and then the adapter into the adapter and we're good to go. [22:19] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] I told him I just plugged the phone into the adapter and then the adapter into the adapter and we're good to go. [22:19] MinceR might as well get a better head unit [22:19] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] might as well get a better head unit [22:19] MinceR USB, BT or even Android Autio [22:19] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] USB, BT or even Android Autio [22:19] MinceR s/io/o/ [22:19] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] s/io/o/ [22:19] schestowitz :-) [22:19] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] :-) [22:20] DaemonFC Well, what am I supposed to do? Swap out the tape deck on a car I'm only going to drive for 3-4 more years? [22:20] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] Well, what am I supposed to do? Swap out the tape deck on a car I'm only going to drive for 3-4 more years? [22:20] DaemonFC They're not giving them away! [22:20] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] They're not giving them away! [22:20] MinceR lol [22:20] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] lol [22:20] *ChanServ has quit (Shutting down) [22:20] activelow i don't have any modern mobile phone, don't cary any with me for almost a decade [22:20] tr-bridge [activelow/tr] i don't have any modern mobile phone, don't cary any with me for almost a decade [22:21] *ChanServ (services@services.freenode.net) has joined #techrights [22:21] *ChanServ gives channel operator status to :ChanServ [22:21] techrights-bot Announcing Aya https://confused.ai/posts/announcing-aya #rustlang #BPF [22:21] techrights-bot/fn Announcing Aya https://confused.ai/posts/announcing-aya #rustlang #BPF [22:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-confused.ai | Announcing Aya | Confused AI [22:21] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] confused.ai | Announcing Aya | Confused AI [22:21] MinceR i have 2 [22:21] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] i have 2 [22:21] MinceR one runs android, the other runs postmarketOS [22:21] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] one runs android, the other runs postmarketOS [22:21] schestowitz activelow: good [22:21] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] activelow: good [22:21] *saint_dogbert (~phobos@freenode-7em.fjl.iiqroa.IP) has joined #techrights [22:21] DaemonFC I really do hate smartphones. Mandy is addicted to his and every time we have that "Turn it off at the table or I'll just disconnect the entire account." he threatens to go buy his own SIM card. [22:21] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] I really do hate smartphones. Mandy is addicted to his and every time we have that "Turn it off at the table or I'll just disconnect the entire account." he threatens to go buy his own SIM card. [22:22] DaemonFC So it's coming out of "our" money anyway. [22:22] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] So it's coming out of "our" money anyway. [22:22] activelow not sure yet, suspect some tiny thing was tapped into my earlobe [22:22] tr-bridge [activelow/tr] not sure yet, suspect some tiny thing was tapped into my earlobe [22:22] MinceR next step: phone jammer [22:22] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] next step: phone jammer [22:22] *balrog_ is now known as balrog [22:22] schestowitz activelow: it's getting worse. 3 days ago: http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/06/12/uk-home-office-eu-mobile/ [22:22] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] activelow: it's getting worse. 3 days ago: http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/06/12/uk-home-office-eu-mobile/ [22:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Ongoing Investigation: Does the UK Home Office Force EU Citizens to Carry Around Tracking Devices? [22:22] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] schestowitz.com Blog Archive Ongoing Investigation: Does the UK Home Office Force EU Citizens to Carry Around Tracking Devices? [22:22] DaemonFC next step: phone jammer [22:22] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] next step: phone jammer [22:22] DaemonFC Well, on my phone that's just called having T-Mobile. [22:22] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] Well, on my phone that's just called having T-Mobile. [22:22] MinceR lol [22:22] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] lol [22:22] DaemonFC But it works on his iPhone, go figure. [22:22] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] But it works on his iPhone, go figure. [22:22] *phobos has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [22:23] schestowitz 'phone' [22:23] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] 'phone' [22:23] schestowitz how many calls does one receive on those/ [22:23] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] how many calls does one receive on those/ [22:23] schestowitz ? [22:23] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] ? [22:23] schestowitz usually just notification bombs [22:23] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] usually just notification bombs [22:23] *hmmmm (~nobody@freenode-5ii.vea.mqnrrs.IP) has joined #techrights [22:24] activelow since year 2004 telco operators began to implement "mobile number portability" with the following consequences [22:24] tr-bridge [activelow/tr] since year 2004 telco operators began to implement "mobile number portability" with the following consequences [22:24] schestowitz ago [22:24] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] ago [22:24] MinceR i do all my calls on a smartphone, but i don't do a lot of them [22:24] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] i do all my calls on a smartphone, but i don't do a lot of them [22:24] *sebsebsebseb (~sebastian@freenode-5u8.kri.uutvc3.IP) has joined #techrights [22:24] activelow 1) mobile calls were not routed by their msisdn number, instead by their IMSI number [22:24] tr-bridge [activelow/tr] 1) mobile calls were not routed by their msisdn number, instead by their IMSI number [22:24] sebsebsebseb schestowitz: ping [22:24] sebsebsebseb/fn schestowitz: ping [22:25] schestowitz hi [22:25] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] hi [22:25] sebsebsebseb why has [22:25] sebsebsebseb/fn why has [22:25] activelow and 2) ALL calls required triggering them into "Intelligent Network" (CAMEL/CAP protocol) to implement this independant from the specific carrier network [22:25] tr-bridge [activelow/tr] and 2) ALL calls required triggering them into "Intelligent Network" (CAMEL/CAP protocol) to implement this independant from the specific carrier network [22:25] schestowitz has why! [22:25] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] has why! [22:25] sebsebsebseb freenode has messed up [22:25] sebsebsebseb/fn freenode has messed up [22:25] *alynpost (~alynpost@freenode-8oa.f0s.c33bnd.IP) has joined #techrights [22:25] sebsebsebseb i just read and yep tried coudn't get on with my acount [22:25] sebsebsebseb/fn i just read and yep tried coudn't get on with my acount [22:25] schestowitz yes, come to irc.techrights.org [22:25] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] yes, come to irc.techrights.org [22:25] sebsebsebseb apaprnaty migrate d servers without database [22:25] sebsebsebseb/fn apaprnaty migrate d servers without database [22:25] schestowitz for now, FN is not predictable [22:25] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] for now, FN is not predictable [22:25] CrystalMath database has gone nuke-aroni [22:25] tr-bridge [CrystalMath/tr] database has gone nuke-aroni [22:25] XRevan86 sebsebsebseb: There is no account. [22:25] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] sebsebsebseb: There is no account. [22:25] sebsebsebseb yeah I am on freenode now [22:25] sebsebsebseb/fn yeah I am on freenode now [22:25] sebsebsebseb and libera [22:25] sebsebsebseb/fn and libera [22:25] sebsebsebseb what's going on ? [22:25] sebsebsebseb/fn what's going on ? [22:25] CrystalMath there's no account, there is only ZUUL [22:25] tr-bridge [CrystalMath/tr] there's no account, there is only ZUUL [22:26] XRevan86 sebsebsebseb: Just hands sticking out of some people's arses. [22:26] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] sebsebsebseb: Just hands sticking out of some people's arses. [22:26] sebsebsebseb what's zuol? [22:26] sebsebsebseb/fn what's zuol? [22:26] schestowitz we are not on "libera" [22:26] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] we are not on "libera" [22:26] DaemonFC I carry so little cash on me these days that I tip wait staff in laundry money sometimes. I just leave like, half a roll of quarters or something. [22:26] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] I carry so little cash on me these days that I tip wait staff in laundry money sometimes. I just leave like, half a roll of quarters or something. [22:26] schestowitz we are libre :-) [22:26] sebsebsebseb all acccounts and channels been delted apaprnatly [22:26] sebsebsebseb/fn all acccounts and channels been delted apaprnatly [22:26] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] we are libre :-) [22:26] CrystalMath sebsebsebseb: a joke from ghostbusters :) [22:26] tr-bridge [CrystalMath/tr] sebsebsebseb: a joke from ghostbusters :) [22:26] schestowitz irc.techrights.org [22:26] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] irc.techrights.org [22:26] CrystalMath you never watched ghostbusters? [22:26] tr-bridge [CrystalMath/tr] you never watched ghostbusters? [22:26] schestowitz #techrights #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell [22:26] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] #techrights #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell [22:26] CrystalMath "there is no dana, there is only zuul" [22:26] tr-bridge [CrystalMath/tr] "there is no dana, there is only zuul" [22:26] sebsebsebseb what's that techrights now has its own irc network too ? [22:26] sebsebsebseb/fn what's that techrights now has its own irc network too ? [22:26] DaemonFC I heard that with credit cards, employers are more likely to steal their tips and force them to "share" with managers and non-tipped workers. [22:26] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] I heard that with credit cards, employers are more likely to steal their tips and force them to "share" with managers and non-tipped workers. [22:26] XRevan86 sebsebsebseb: yes [22:26] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] sebsebsebseb: yes [22:26] CrystalMath it was a meme 10 years ago [22:26] tr-bridge [CrystalMath/tr] it was a meme 10 years ago [22:26] sebsebsebseb so everything has forked [22:26] sebsebsebseb/fn so everything has forked [22:26] sebsebsebseb i am on freenode right now chatting though [22:26] sebsebsebseb/fn i am on freenode right now chatting though [22:26] CrystalMath that's right, freenode still works [22:26] CrystalMath/fn that's right, freenode still works [22:26] sebsebsebseb i am also on libera irc sepeartgly [22:26] sebsebsebseb/fn i am also on libera irc sepeartgly [22:27] CrystalMath you just have to register again [22:27] CrystalMath/fn you just have to register again [22:27] schestowitz freenode might work some time before the weekend [22:27] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] freenode might work some time before the weekend [22:27] CrystalMath everyone had to [22:27] CrystalMath/fn everyone had to [22:27] activelow schestowitz: at this time around year 2003 national parliaments often denied implementation of mass surveillance [22:27] tr-bridge [activelow/tr] schestowitz: at this time around year 2003 national parliaments often denied implementation of mass surveillance [22:27] schestowitz for now, it's "use at your own risk" [22:27] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] for now, it's "use at your own risk" [22:27] sebsebsebseb why has it gone like that ? [22:27] sebsebsebseb/fn why has it gone like that ? [22:27] sebsebsebseb where got to register again [22:27] sebsebsebseb/fn where got to register again [22:27] sebsebsebseb what you mean freenode is use at own risk ? [22:27] schestowitz we'll need to worry about that later [22:27] sebsebsebseb/fn what you mean freenode is use at own risk ? [22:27] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] we'll need to worry about that later [22:27] schestowitz rigth now FN is balkanised [22:27] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] rigth now FN is balkanised [22:27] sebsebsebseb the whole thing is pathetic [22:27] sebsebsebseb/fn the whole thing is pathetic [22:27] sebsebsebseb oh no some guy we don't like has takne over freenode [22:27] sebsebsebseb/fn oh no some guy we don't like has takne over freenode [22:27] sebsebsebseb let's fork everything [22:27] sebsebsebseb/fn let's fork everything [22:27] schestowitz there's "new", "old" and something in between [22:27] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] there's "new", "old" and something in between [22:28] sebsebsebseb this is open source [22:28] sebsebsebseb/fn this is open source [22:28] schestowitz on some machines I cannot connect to freenode at all [22:28] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] on some machines I cannot connect to freenode at all [22:28] CrystalMath schestowitz: nope, old freenode is done for [22:28] tr-bridge [CrystalMath/tr] schestowitz: nope, old freenode is done for [22:28] activelow therefor security agencies chose an alternative path, to implement mass surveillance they relied upon EU-legislation [22:28] tr-bridge [activelow/tr] therefor security agencies chose an alternative path, to implement mass surveillance they relied upon EU-legislation [22:28] CrystalMath erased, kaput, sleeps with the fishes [22:28] tr-bridge [CrystalMath/tr] erased, kaput, sleeps with the fishes [22:28] DaemonFC That laundry chain still doesn't have credit card terminals on their machines. [22:28] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] That laundry chain still doesn't have credit card terminals on their machines. [22:28] CrystalMath ende, finito, owatta [22:28] tr-bridge [CrystalMath/tr] ende, finito, owatta [22:28] activelow "routing on IMSI" was illegal [22:28] tr-bridge [activelow/tr] "routing on IMSI" was illegal [22:28] DaemonFC Probably makes it easier to under-report taxes and avoid swipe fees of course. [22:28] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] Probably makes it easier to under-report taxes and avoid swipe fees of course. [22:28] sebsebsebseb so he's intenitlhy wiped out the old freenode, all channels, and registerd nick names ? [22:28] sebsebsebseb/fn so he's intenitlhy wiped out the old freenode, all channels, and registerd nick names ? [22:28] schestowitz CrystalMath: that's a shame, as I cannot connect to the new one on some boxes and their site does not communicate the changes [22:28] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] CrystalMath: that's a shame, as I cannot connect to the new one on some boxes and their site does not communicate the changes [22:29] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [22:29] sebsebsebseb how many irc networks do i ned to be on, one was meant to of been enough, Freenode ! [22:29] XRevan86 schestowitz: old is dead [22:29] sebsebsebseb/fn how many irc networks do i ned to be on, one was meant to of been enough, Freenode ! [22:29] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: old is dead [22:29] schestowitz I will try one last time to connect ipfs to FN [22:29] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] I will try one last time to connect ipfs to FN [22:29] sebsebsebseb now it's iuhmmm freenode maybe, libera chat, and what what what techrighs has a own irc network too on top of that [22:29] sebsebsebseb/fn now it's iuhmmm freenode maybe, libera chat, and what what what techrighs has a own irc network too on top of that [22:29] MinceR out with the old, in with the new! [22:29] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] out with the old, in with the new! [22:29] schestowitz failing that, I'm changing all the code to TR IRC for that bot [22:29] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] failing that, I'm changing all the code to TR IRC for that bot [22:30] MinceR i'm on 11 networks [22:30] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] i'm on 11 networks [22:30] schestowitz I don't even know he official domain and port numbers [22:30] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] I don't even know he official domain and port numbers [22:30] schestowitz freenode.org [22:30] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] freenode.org [22:30] schestowitz freenode.net [22:30] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] freenode.net [22:30] schestowitz chat. [22:30] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] chat. [22:30] schestowitz irc. [22:30] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] irc. [22:30] XRevan86 chat. 6667/6697 [22:30] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] chat. 6667/6697 [22:30] schestowitz there are many variants [22:30] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] there are many variants [22:31] sebsebsebseb why has techrights gone to its own netowrk [22:31] sebsebsebseb/fn why has techrights gone to its own netowrk [22:31] sebsebsebseb i thought techrights was ok with still being on freenode [22:31] sebsebsebseb/fn i thought techrights was ok with still being on freenode [22:31] schestowitz XRevan86: .net? [22:31] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] XRevan86: .net? [22:31] XRevan86 schestowitz: Huh? [22:31] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: Huh? [22:32] schestowitz at some point people can get fed up even based on technical grounds alone [22:32] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] at some point people can get fed up even based on technical grounds alone [22:32] schestowitz we need to run a site [22:32] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] we need to run a site [22:33] schestowitz not tinker with irc crap to work around unannounced epic changes [22:33] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] not tinker with irc crap to work around unannounced epic changes [22:34] MinceR sebsebsebseb/fn: redundancy => reliability [22:34] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] sebsebsebseb/fn: redundancy => reliability [22:34] schestowitz Pure shite: [22:34] schestowitz/fn Pure shite: [22:34] schestowitz 1623792555 ERROR :Closing link: (079AAAXVV@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:c7f2:e919:b6dc:6252) [No more connections allowed from your host via this connect class (global)] [22:34] schestowitz/fn 1623792555 ERROR :Closing link: (079AAAXVV@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:c7f2:e919:b6dc:6252) [No more connections allowed from your host via this connect class (global)] [22:34] schestowitz /home/xxxx/ii-1.8/ii: remote host closed connection: Bad address [22:34] schestowitz/fn /home/xxxx/ii-1.8/ii: remote host closed connection: Bad address [22:35] MinceR this network worked fine while freenode was in 3 shards [22:35] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] this network worked fine while freenode was in 3 shards [22:35] schestowitz should I just join ipfs bot to here? [22:35] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] should I just join ipfs bot to here? [22:35] schestowitz we need it at 2am [22:35] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] we need it at 2am [22:35] *sebsebsebseb has quit (SendQ exceeded) [22:35] *sebsebsebseb (~sebastian@freenode-5u8.kri.uutvc3.IP) has joined #techrights [22:39] MinceR yes [22:39] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] yes [22:42] *techrights-ipfs (~techrights-ipfs@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [22:43] schestowitz don't mind me stress-testing it [22:43] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] don't mind me stress-testing it [22:43] schestowitz to check autorecovery [22:43] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] to check autorecovery [22:43] schestowitz then I need to change loads of code [22:43] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] then I need to change loads of code [22:43] schestowitz where the string freenode.net is hard-coded [22:43] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] where the string freenode.net is hard-coded [22:44] *schestowitz has kicked techrights-ipfs from #techrights (User terminated!) [22:46] *sebsebseb (~sebastian@6w5gf8vefm278.irc) has joined #techrights [22:46] sebsebseb hmm [22:46] tr-bridge [sebsebseb/tr] hmm [22:46] schestowitz 0/ [22:46] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] 0/ [22:46] sebsebseb schestowitz: you suprise me ! [22:46] tr-bridge [sebsebseb/tr] schestowitz: you suprise me ! [22:46] sebsebseb schestowitz: even you forked ! [22:46] tr-bridge [sebsebseb/tr] schestowitz: even you forked ! [22:46] schestowitz we use both [22:46] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] we use both [22:46] sebsebseb I thought you were ok with techrights still being on freenode [22:46] tr-bridge [sebsebseb/tr] I thought you were ok with techrights still being on freenode [22:47] schestowitz but for now FN is dysfunctional technically [22:47] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] but for now FN is dysfunctional technically [22:47] sebsebseb the unoffial techrights on libera has more people [22:47] tr-bridge [sebsebseb/tr] the unoffial techrights on libera has more people [22:47] schestowitz we're still on freenode too [22:47] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] we're still on freenode too [22:47] schestowitz but freenode is not on freenode [22:47] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] but freenode is not on freenode [22:47] schestowitz it's somewhere "in the clown" [22:47] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] it's somewhere "in the clown" [22:47] sebsebseb freenode is fucked it seems [22:47] tr-bridge [sebsebseb/tr] freenode is fucked it seems [22:47] MinceR (cat) https://ircz.de/p/21051535 [22:47] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] (cat) https://ircz.de/p/21051535 [22:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5459638) [22:47] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5459638) [22:48] *cybrNaut (~cybrNaut@freenode-tto.k1n.ssv8hv.IP) has joined #techrights [22:48] MinceR 15 234712 < sebsebseb> the unoffial techrights on libera has more people [22:48] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] 15 234712 < sebsebseb> the unoffial techrights on libera has more people [22:48] MinceR cancel mob led by matthew garrett? [22:48] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] cancel mob led by matthew garrett? [22:49] schestowitz sebsebseb: number of people does not say much [22:49] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] sebsebseb: number of people does not say much [22:49] schestowitz esp. if people hardly say a thing [22:49] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] esp. if people hardly say a thing [22:49] sebsebseb schestowitz: when was this network started ? [22:49] tr-bridge [sebsebseb/tr] schestowitz: when was this network started ? [22:50] schestowitz weeks ago [22:50] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] weeks ago [22:50] sebsebseb is your compuer pweorful enough i guess so [22:50] tr-bridge [sebsebseb/tr] is your compuer pweorful enough i guess so [22:50] sebsebseb it's tiny [22:50] tr-bridge [sebsebseb/tr] it's tiny [22:50] sebsebseb so i should register my name here ? [22:50] tr-bridge [sebsebseb/tr] so i should register my name here ? [22:50] sebsebseb so MinceR can't pretend to be me as easilly :D [22:50] tr-bridge [sebsebseb/tr] so MinceR can't pretend to be me as easilly :D [22:51] saint_dogbert Question; if Libera or Libre or whatever the networks name is so great, why are people coming here trying to convince more to join? [22:51] saint_dogbert/fn Question; if Libera or Libre or whatever the networks name is so great, why are people coming here trying to convince more to join? [22:51] MinceR sebsebseb: i could still pretend to be you if i wanted to [22:51] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] sebsebseb: i could still pretend to be you if i wanted to [22:51] saint_dogbert whoops, wrong window [22:51] saint_dogbert/fn whoops, wrong window [22:51] MinceR but why would i want to? [22:51] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] but why would i want to? [22:51] sebsebseb how i regsiter? the command? /msg nickserv register something ? [22:51] tr-bridge [sebsebseb/tr] how i regsiter? the command? /msg nickserv register something ? [22:52] sebsebseb MinceR: since I am better than you :D [22:52] tr-bridge [sebsebseb/tr] MinceR: since I am better than you :D [22:52] sebsebseb ha ha [22:52] tr-bridge [sebsebseb/tr] ha ha [22:52] MinceR /msg nickserv help register to find out [22:52] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] /msg nickserv help register to find out [22:52] MinceR generally it's safer to use /quote than /msg though [22:52] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] generally it's safer to use /quote than /msg though [22:52] sebsebseb is it why ? [22:52] tr-bridge [sebsebseb/tr] is it why ? [22:52] psydroid proselytising is big business these days [22:52] MinceR because /msg nickserv could go to any user having that nick [22:52] tr-bridge [psydroid/tr] proselytising is big business these days [22:52] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] because /msg nickserv could go to any user having that nick [22:53] MinceR /quote uses a server command which won't relay the command if nickserv isn't really nickserv [22:53] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] /quote uses a server command which won't relay the command if nickserv isn't really nickserv [22:53] MinceR tribalism is a big business [22:53] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] tribalism is a big business [22:53] saint_dogbert Sadly, yes, it is [22:53] saint_dogbert/fn Sadly, yes, it is [22:53] MinceR so much so it makes people forget that it's actually possible to connect to multiple irc networks at the same time [22:53] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] so much so it makes people forget that it's actually possible to connect to multiple irc networks at the same time [22:54] sebsebseb what about teh mask thing ? [22:54] tr-bridge [sebsebseb/tr] what about teh mask thing ? [22:54] sebsebseb the cloak ? [22:54] tr-bridge [sebsebseb/tr] the cloak ? [22:54] saint_dogbert sebsebsebseb: Ask in #help [22:54] saint_dogbert/fn sebsebsebseb: Ask in #help [22:54] MinceR not sure what you mean [22:54] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] not sure what you mean [22:54] MinceR you're automatically cloaked here, but you can get a fancier vhost with hostserv [22:54] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] you're automatically cloaked here, but you can get a fancier vhost with hostserv [22:55] MinceR new freenode also automatically cloaks you [22:55] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] new freenode also automatically cloaks you [22:55] saint_dogbert */freednode/user/$nick/* [22:55] saint_dogbert/fn */freednode/user/$nick/* [22:55] psymin I'm the only person in #help so I'm not sure asking there would be helpful :D [22:55] tr-bridge [psymin/tr] I'm the only person in #help so I'm not sure asking there would be helpful :D [22:55] MinceR libera has a channel where you can get a cloak from a bot [22:55] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] libera has a channel where you can get a cloak from a bot [22:55] AdmFubar https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/06/researchers-build-a-metadata-based-image-database-using-dna-storage/ [22:55] tr-bridge [AdmFubar/tr] https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/06/researchers-build-a-metadata-based-image-database-using-dna-storage/ [22:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | A DNA-based storage system with files and metadata | Ars Technica [22:55] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] arstechnica.com | A DNA-based storage system with files and metadata | Ars Technica [22:56] sebsebseb MinceR: Apple [22:56] tr-bridge [sebsebseb/tr] MinceR: Apple [22:56] saint_dogbert sebsebsebseb: Which network are you connected to? Freenode? If so, it sounds like you are on the old network. You would then ask in #freenode [22:56] saint_dogbert/fn sebsebsebseb: Which network are you connected to? Freenode? If so, it sounds like you are on the old network. You would then ask in #freenode [22:56] AdmFubar https://arstechnica.com/?p=1773746 [22:56] tr-bridge [AdmFubar/tr] https://arstechnica.com/?p=1773746 [22:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Starlink dishes go into thermal shutdown once they hit 122 Fahrenheit | Ars Technica [22:56] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] arstechnica.com | Starlink dishes go into thermal shutdown once they hit 122 Fahrenheit | Ars Technica [22:56] sebsebseb MinceR: Pear [22:56] tr-bridge [sebsebseb/tr] MinceR: Pear [22:56] sebsebseb MinceR: Banana [22:56] tr-bridge [sebsebseb/tr] MinceR: Banana [22:56] sebsebseb MinceR: Melon [22:56] MinceR sebsebseb: Tomato [22:56] tr-bridge [sebsebseb/tr] MinceR: Melon [22:56] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] sebsebseb: Tomato [22:56] sebsebseb MinceR: Tomado however its' done the amercian way [22:56] tr-bridge [sebsebseb/tr] MinceR: Tomado however its' done the amercian way [22:57] saint_dogbert sebsebsebseb: Tribalist! [22:57] saint_dogbert/fn sebsebsebseb: Tribalist! [22:57] saint_dogbert ;) [22:57] saint_dogbert/fn ;) [22:58] sebsebseb MinceR: Microoft Orcale IBM, EA games, Motrolla, Samsung LG [22:58] tr-bridge [sebsebseb/tr] MinceR: Microoft Orcale IBM, EA games, Motrolla, Samsung LG [22:58] sebsebseb HP Dell Canonical [22:58] tr-bridge [sebsebseb/tr] HP Dell Canonical [22:58] MinceR new freenode has hostserv, but no request command [22:58] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] new freenode has hostserv, but no request command [22:58] saint_dogbert Lenovo 4 da win! [22:58] saint_dogbert/fn Lenovo 4 da win! [22:58] *activelow has quit (Quit: leaving) [22:58] *user (~user@7ry7xfap2gwd6.irc) has joined #techrights [22:59] saint_dogbert interesting.. querying hostserv... I guess I won't be getting a pdpc cloak again [22:59] saint_dogbert/fn interesting.. querying hostserv... I guess I won't be getting a pdpc cloak again ● Jun 15 [23:00] *user has quit (Quit: leaving) [23:00] saint_dogbert has to be assigned by operators within approved channels? [23:00] saint_dogbert/fn has to be assigned by operators within approved channels? [23:00] *user_ (~user@7ry7xfap2gwd6.irc) has joined #techrights [23:02] *user_ has quit (Quit: leaving) [23:02] *activelow (~activelow@7ry7xfap2gwd6.irc) has joined #techrights [23:03] AdmFubar https://fosspost.org/freenode-is-irc-as-in-dumbest-takeover-in-history/ [23:03] tr-bridge [AdmFubar/tr] https://fosspost.org/freenode-is-irc-as-in-dumbest-takeover-in-history/ [23:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fosspost.org | Freenode Is IRC; As In "Dumbest Takeover In History" [23:03] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] fosspost.org | Freenode Is IRC; As In "Dumbest Takeover In History" [23:05] *cybrNaut has quit (Z-lined) [23:05] sebsebsebseb thanks for link [23:05] sebsebsebseb/fn thanks for link [23:05] sebsebseb thanks for link AdmFubar [23:05] tr-bridge [sebsebseb/tr] thanks for link AdmFubar [23:06] AdmFubar sure [23:06] tr-bridge [AdmFubar/tr] sure [23:06] AdmFubar https://beta.darkreading.com/iot/security-experts-scrutinize-apple-amazon-iot-networks [23:06] tr-bridge [AdmFubar/tr] https://beta.darkreading.com/iot/security-experts-scrutinize-apple-amazon-iot-networks [23:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-beta.darkreading.com | Dark Reading | Security | Protect The Business [23:07] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] beta.darkreading.com | Dark Reading | Security | Protect The Business [23:07] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [23:08] AdmFubar dinner time back later [23:08] tr-bridge [AdmFubar/tr] dinner time back later [23:08] schestowitz auto recovered corrected [23:08] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] auto recovered corrected [23:08] schestowitz don't mind my very few tests [23:08] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] don't mind my very few tests [23:08] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has left #techrights [23:09] *activelow has quit (Quit: leaving) [23:09] *activelow (~activelow@254g4tq7df99e.irc) has joined #techrights [23:14] techrights-ipfs-bot test [23:14] tr-bridge [techrights-ipfs-bot/tr] test [23:14] schestowitz I am testing all the modes [23:14] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] I am testing all the modes [23:15] techrights-bot Is this an ad?! https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Noctua-NH-P1 [23:15] techrights-bot/fn Is this an ad?! https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Noctua-NH-P1 [23:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Noctua Launches NH-P1 As High-End Passive CPU Cooler - Phoronix [23:15] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] Noctua Launches NH-P1 As High-End Passive CPU Cooler - Phoronix [23:16] techrights-bot #WindRiver #Linux LTS 21 now available https://blogs.windriver.com/wind_river_blog/2021/06/wind-river-linux-lts-21-now-available/ [23:16] techrights-bot/fn #WindRiver #Linux LTS 21 now available https://blogs.windriver.com/wind_river_blog/2021/06/wind-river-linux-lts-21-now-available/ [23:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.windriver.com | Wind River Linux LTS 21 now available [23:16] -tr-bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr/tr] blogs.windriver.com | Wind River Linux LTS 21 now available [23:17] *activelow has quit (Quit: leaving) [23:17] *user_ (~user@254g4tq7df99e.irc) has joined #techrights [23:18] *user_ (~user@254g4tq7df99e.irc) has left #techrights (ttyl) [23:19] *user_ (~user@hf7krumpj55mi.irc) has joined #techrights [23:19] techrights-ipfs-bot test [23:19] tr-bridge [techrights-ipfs-bot/tr] test [23:20] *user_ has quit (Quit: leaving) [23:20] *activelo1 (~activelow@hf7krumpj55mi.irc) has joined #techrights [23:21] *activelo1 has quit (Quit: leaving) [23:21] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 25.26 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 51.03 swarm size (avg): 245.94 [23:21] tr-bridge [techrights-ipfs-bot/tr] IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 25.26 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 51.03 swarm size (avg): 245.94 [23:22] *activelo1 (~activelow@hf7krumpj55mi.irc) has joined #techrights [23:23] *activelo1 has quit (Quit: leaving) [23:23] *activelo1 (~activelow@hf7krumpj55mi.irc) has joined #techrights [23:24] *activelo1 (~activelow@hf7krumpj55mi.irc) has left #techrights [23:26] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 25.26 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 51.03 [23:26] tr-bridge [techrights-ipfs-bot/tr] IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 25.26 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 51.03 [23:29] schestowitz last test [23:29] schestowitz/fn last test [23:29] CrystalMath on old freenode, i'm an op on #techrights [23:29] CrystalMath/fn on old freenode, i'm an op on #techrights [23:30] schestowitz wow [23:30] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] wow [23:30] schestowitz how did you do that? [23:30] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] how did you do that? [23:30] CrystalMath i just joined it [23:30] CrystalMath/fn i just joined it [23:30] schestowitz oh, maybe nobody left there [23:30] CrystalMath it's empty [23:30] CrystalMath/fn it's empty [23:30] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] oh, maybe nobody left there [23:30] schestowitz yeah, well... [23:30] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] yeah, well... [23:30] schestowitz ipfs has been ported over [23:30] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] ipfs has been ported over [23:30] schestowitz I will do some coding on it soon [23:30] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] I will do some coding on it soon [23:30] CrystalMath i'm on capone [23:30] tr-bridge [CrystalMath/tr] i'm on capone [23:31] CrystalMath which people now call the rebel server [23:31] tr-bridge [CrystalMath/tr] which people now call the rebel server [23:31] schestowitz had freenode not been such a shitshow, we'd have far more articles in techrights [23:31] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] had freenode not been such a shitshow, we'd have far more articles in techrights [23:32] *activelow (~activelow@xijb2bingr6ee.irc) has joined #techrights [23:33] techrights-ipfs-bot Gemini requests since start of month: 100135 total Total pages: 35870 Active: active (running) since Tue 2021-06-08 16:18:39 BST; 1 weeks 0 days ago [23:33] schestowitz will need to merge logs from tuxmachines after 2am, CHANGE BACK TO NO 10 min delay, shrink tuxmachines.txt size [23:33] tr-bridge [techrights-ipfs-bot/tr] Gemini requests since start of month: 100135 total Total pages: 35870 Active: active (running) since Tue 2021-06-08 16:18:39 BST; 1 weeks 0 days ago [23:33] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] will need to merge logs from tuxmachines after 2am, CHANGE BACK TO NO 10 min delay, shrink tuxmachines.txt size [23:33] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS local node stats (past 23 hours) calculated. TotalIn: 2.0 GB TotalOut: 507 MB [23:33] techrights-ipfs-bot New daily bulletin just generated. It is about to be added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with CID [23:33] tr-bridge [techrights-ipfs-bot/tr] IPFS local node stats (past 23 hours) calculated. TotalIn: 2.0 GB TotalOut: 507 MB [23:33] schestowitz not much sleep expected tonight [23:33] tr-bridge [techrights-ipfs-bot/tr] New daily bulletin just generated. It is about to be added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with CID [23:33] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] not much sleep expected tonight [23:33] schestowitz the above is just a test run [23:33] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] the above is just a test run [23:33] schestowitz no CID will show up [23:33] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] no CID will show up [23:33] schestowitz no new files (bulltin) available yet [23:33] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] no new files (bulltin) available yet [23:34] schestowitz lots of networking issues lately [23:34] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] lots of networking issues lately [23:34] schestowitz january bt [23:34] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] january bt [23:34] schestowitz then in april they broke our home network [23:34] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] then in april they broke our home network [23:34] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@ip22xekvck62g.irc) has joined #techrights [23:34] schestowitz then our wifi [23:34] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] then our wifi [23:34] schestowitz then freenode collapsed [23:34] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] then freenode collapsed [23:35] schestowitz and somehow we're supposed to focus on getting stuff done [23:35] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] and somehow we're supposed to focus on getting stuff done [23:35] techrights-ipfs-bot QmWUuHEZ2oaiCQvka8SLGahoMnqWoQAYEYcBWvmbUrf6Us [23:35] tr-bridge [techrights-ipfs-bot/tr] QmWUuHEZ2oaiCQvka8SLGahoMnqWoQAYEYcBWvmbUrf6Us [23:36] *cybrNaut (~cybrNaut@freenode-tto.k1n.ssv8hv.IP) has joined #techrights [23:37] schestowitz odd [23:37] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] odd [23:37] schestowitz wasn't supposed to show yesterday's hasg [23:37] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] wasn't supposed to show yesterday's hasg [23:39] *libertybox has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) [23:39] *libertybox (~schestowitz_log@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [23:39] *libertybox (~schestowi@freenode-ctluk6.5mai.fl0c.t29qgt.IP) has joined #techrights [23:40] activelow anyway, i think some entities silently entered my flat [23:40] tr-bridge [activelow/tr] anyway, i think some entities silently entered my flat [23:41] activelow 1) removed some microsd cards which causes system crash [23:41] tr-bridge [activelow/tr] 1) removed some microsd cards which causes system crash [23:42] activelow 2) my chair is assembled with heavy screws, one screw was loosened which it doesn't without tools, 100% certainty [23:42] tr-bridge [activelow/tr] 2) my chair is assembled with heavy screws, one screw was loosened which it doesn't without tools, 100% certainty [23:42] activelow my only "criminal" action: connect to irc via onion [23:42] tr-bridge [activelow/tr] my only "criminal" action: connect to irc via onion [23:45] activelow it is ridiculous insofar my account at freenode is/was registered with my official mail address for example [23:45] tr-bridge [activelow/tr] it is ridiculous insofar my account at freenode is/was registered with my official mail address for example [23:45] activelow onion traffic is minimal, only IRC and DNS requests [23:45] tr-bridge [activelow/tr] onion traffic is minimal, only IRC and DNS requests [23:46] activelow the other "crime" seems to be i maintain some software-setup, which they obviously cannot tap remotely at all [23:46] tr-bridge [activelow/tr] the other "crime" seems to be i maintain some software-setup, which they obviously cannot tap remotely at all [23:47] *acer-box (~acer-box@freenode-ctluk6.5mai.fl0c.t29qgt.IP) has joined #techrights [23:47] *ChanServ gives channel operator status to :acer-box [23:47] activelow for that reason i suspect my phone line was occasionally tapped too, some weird symptoms [23:47] tr-bridge [activelow/tr] for that reason i suspect my phone line was occasionally tapped too, some weird symptoms [23:48] activelow need to find some tattoo studio or similar which can check/remove the tiny things in my earlobes [23:48] tr-bridge [activelow/tr] need to find some tattoo studio or similar which can check/remove the tiny things in my earlobes [23:49] *saint_dogbert has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [23:50] *sudo has quit (Quit: Este o fim.) [23:50] activelow furthermore emails sent/received were altered and/or silently deleted [23:50] tr-bridge [activelow/tr] furthermore emails sent/received were altered and/or silently deleted [23:50] *asusbox2 (~rianne@freenode-qlvl2n.5mai.fl0c.t29qgt.IP) has joined #techrights [23:51] *cybrNaut has quit (Z-lined) [23:51] activelow documents tampered with, NLP/gaslighting crap, suspect impersonation when calling relatives by phone [23:51] tr-bridge [activelow/tr] documents tampered with, NLP/gaslighting crap, suspect impersonation when calling relatives by phone [23:52] DaemonFC I was comparing state cost of living index ratings. Apparently, Illinois, overall, isn't that much higher than Indiana, and where they really get you is housing costs. Surprisingly, while transportation would be a lot cheaper if I moved a few miles up to Wisconsin, the overall index is higher than it is in Illinois. [23:52] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] I was comparing state cost of living index ratings. Apparently, Illinois, overall, isn't that much higher than Indiana, and where they really get you is housing costs. Surprisingly, while transportation would be a lot cheaper if I moved a few miles up to Wisconsin, the overall index is higher than it is in Illinois. [23:52] DaemonFC I wonder what measurements they are sourcing. [23:52] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] I wonder what measurements they are sourcing. [23:53] DaemonFC What does stand out is that California stands alone in cost of living. It's half again as expensive to live in the state as the national average, and if you end up in some parts, like San Francisco, it can actually be more than triple. [23:53] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] What does stand out is that California stands alone in cost of living. It's half again as expensive to live in the state as the national average, and if you end up in some parts, like San Francisco, it can actually be more than triple. [23:54] DaemonFC In Fallout: New Vegas, the NCR (New California Republic) ending is probably the canonical ending, but what the narrator points out is that people who were once free are now crushed by California taxes and bureaucracy. [23:54] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] In Fallout: New Vegas, the NCR (New California Republic) ending is probably the canonical ending, but what the narrator points out is that people who were once free are now crushed by California taxes and bureaucracy. [23:55] DaemonFC There aren't any satisfying endings on this game. [23:55] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] There aren't any satisfying endings on this game. [23:55] schestowitz XRevan86: the bridge will become ever more crucial as at midnight (7 mins from now), I'll tilt over the logging switch to the more reliable network [23:55] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] XRevan86: the bridge will become ever more crucial as at midnight (7 mins from now), I'll tilt over the logging switch to the more reliable network [23:56] schestowitz except for tuxmachines, as we keep that in FN [23:56] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] except for tuxmachines, as we keep that in FN [23:56] schestowitz and FN only [23:56] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] and FN only [23:56] DaemonFC Mr. House might be the best poised to recover civilization and get people out into space to leave the ruined Earth, but he's still a dictator and one that will live forever. With billionaires today, they can live a very long time, but not forever. [23:57] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] Mr. House might be the best poised to recover civilization and get people out into space to leave the ruined Earth, but he's still a dictator and one that will live forever. With billionaires today, they can live a very long time, but not forever. [23:57] schestowitz DaemonFC: back to tech pls [23:57] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] DaemonFC: back to tech pls [23:57] DaemonFC We'll even be rid of Gates eventually, but he'll leave behind a world that he caused great damage and corruption to, and instead of society benefiting from some of his money through the estate tax, it'll pass along to a generation of his own heirs that don't do much. [23:57] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] We'll even be rid of Gates eventually, but he'll leave behind a world that he caused great damage and corruption to, and instead of society benefiting from some of his money through the estate tax, it'll pass along to a generation of his own heirs that don't do much. [23:59] DaemonFC schestowitz, I was joking with my mom yesterday. She was complaining about the cost of ground beef. [23:59] DaemonFC I told her she could eat Bill's Burgers.