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● Mar 16
[00:00]	DaemonFC[m]	Like, sites are saying "Not supported." now when it's IE, even if it's the latest build there was.
[00:00]	vmg3	horrible software
[00:00]	DaemonFC[m]	So you can't use shitty sites made for IE on anything else, and you can't use modern sites on any version of IE.
[00:00]	schestowitz__	usenet/newsgroups/nntp are awesome
[00:01]	schestowitz__	I stopped using them for reasons that aren't technical
[00:01]	DaemonFC[m]	I had to load Internet Explorer on Windows 10 and fight my way into the One Walmart website to make myself the beneficiary of Mandy's 401(k) plan.
[00:01]	schestowitz__	Google Groups did harm to them, as did the copyright cartel
[00:01]	vmg3	yes they are.  spam advertising
[00:01]	schestowitz__	knode is, afaik, no longer maintained
[00:01]	DaemonFC[m]	So I wouldn't have to go through probate to inherit his money if he dies for some reason.
[00:01]	schestowitz__	they closed many bug reports inc. mine without a resolution
[00:01]	DaemonFC[m]	"MARISOL" did get herself into some trouble.
[00:02]	vmg3	trouble is my middle name
[00:02]	DaemonFC[m]	She's no on a life insurance company shitlist and can't inherit anyone's life insurance money if they check MIB.
[00:02]	DaemonFC[m]	*now
[00:02]	DaemonFC[m]	And they canceled all of the policies she had on her other family members.
[00:02]	schestowitz__	let's stay on topic
[00:02]	DaemonFC[m]	The insurance companies do use technology.
[00:02]	schestowitz__	yes
[00:02]	DaemonFC[m]	They use these credit bureaus you never hear about.
[00:02]	schestowitz__	but you talk about family
[00:03]	DaemonFC[m]	It turns out that they have a blacklist for people who have tried to defraud them and she's on it now.
[00:03]	schestowitz__	can they still call that blacklist?
[00:03]	vmg3	making a claim they consider evil
[00:04]	DaemonFC[m]	<schestowitz__ "can they still call that blackli"> I still do.
[00:04]	DaemonFC[m]	Dunno if they can.
[00:04]	schestowitz__	can someone help out with docs here?
[00:05]	schestowitz__	like making html version of http://techrights.org/files/epo-microsoft/Part-8-Berlin-DPA-After-Schrems-II-digital-independence.pdf ?
[00:05]	schestowitz__	I am trying to stay on topic
[00:05]	schestowitz__	as we lack 'man(woman)power'
[00:05]	schestowitz__	and have lots to cover asap
[00:05]	schestowitz__	http://techrights.org/files/epo-microsoft/Part-9-NL-Report-5-Nov-2018.pdf will be next
[00:06]	vmg3	i'll give it a crack
[00:07]	schestowitz__	vmg3: thanks!
[00:07]	schestowitz__	the newlines are an issue
[00:08]	schestowitz__	in PDFs
[00:09]	vmg3	no promises just have a go
[00:12]	schestowitz__	ty
[00:18]	MinceR	DaemonFC[m]: on my car, i can just turn off LKA and there's no need to fight for the wheel
[00:18]	MinceR	it still does occasionally issue a spurious "vehicle swaying detected" warning, but it doesn't try to move the wheel :>
[00:18]	MinceR	(and it remembers that i turned LKA off :> )
[00:25]	vmg3	paste site ok?
[00:25]	schestowitz__	yes
[00:25]	schestowitz__	it's nto a secret text
[00:25]	schestowitz__	ty
[00:25]	vmg3	ok 
[00:26]	schestowitz__	EPO just issued a message to 7000 workers
[00:26]	schestowitz__	because of our publications
[00:26]	vmg3	best evil laught
[00:26]	schestowitz__	EPO staff loves us
[00:27]	schestowitz__	their management, which they hate, loathes us
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[00:36]	cybrNaut	https://source.puri.sm/toolauditor/CEAP/-/blob/master/audits/ddg.md  <= updates to http://techrights.org/2020/07/02/ddg-privacy-abuser-in-disguise/
[00:36]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-source.puri.sm | audits/ddg.md master Inspector Gadget / Cyberservices Ethics Audit Project GitLab
[00:36]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Why People Should Never Ever Use DuckDuckGo | Techrights
[00:36]	cybrNaut	^ schestowitz__ 
[00:37]	vmg3	sorry didn't want to loose images  https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D90g4QpOoRXUJqvGGvNDc9IeCJPlw_aZ/view?usp=sharing
[00:37]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-drive.google.com | part8-9.tar.gz - Google Drive
[00:37]	cybrNaut	paragraph 2.3 is the most significant change.
[00:38]	vmg3	please forgive if not up to scratch
[00:38]	vmg3	txt included 
[00:42]	schestowitz__	cybrNaut: thanks
[00:43]	schestowitz__	I have a question
[00:43]	schestowitz__	how bit are the changes to the text
[00:43]	schestowitz__	if big, then we can repost this newer version anew
[00:43]	schestowitz__	vmg3: thanks!
[00:43]	DaemonFC[m]	schestowitz Why not post the legal threats?
[00:43]	schestowitz__	not yet
[00:45]	schestowitz__	vmg3: how can I download this file?
[00:45]	schestowitz__	without using Google "apps" and malware?
[00:46]	vmg3	it should open in browser and then you can click the downloader top right.  i dont know if you need a g account
[00:47]	vmg3	let my try mega
[00:47]	cybrNaut	i imagine a diff would be ugly.  I would probably post the new version in full, and note in the old version what the significant updates are.  The significant changes are: DDG is now MS-hosted (2.3), DDG gets commission when Amazon or eBay links are followed, and there's more dirt on DDG donees (TechFreedom, "Public Knowledge", "Demand Progress", "Fight for the Future", and "Access Now")
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[00:48]	schestowitz__	vmg3: ok, thanks
[00:48]	schestowitz__	thanks, I will post a "2021 edition"
[00:48]	schestowitz__	probably a few hours from now
[00:48]	cybrNaut	oh, and Verizon-Yahoo is no longer a partner
[00:49]	vmg3	https://mega.nz/file/Es4GRZYY#kcPoOW4KrrJotgAbDeqUFCVJoUZtFDlG2ErtHpvE1-M
[00:49]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mega.nz | NO TITLE
[00:50]	vmg3	no account required
[00:50]	vmg3	but it will open the site
[00:50]	schestowitz__	much better, thanls
[00:50]	vmg3	don't thank me yet 
[00:51]	vmg3	I would like more time to clean up a bit and make into single file but...
[00:54]	cybrNaut	schestowitz__: "opponent of net neutrality" link was just fixed.. so if you already grabbed it you want to re-fetch
[00:55]	schestowitz__	vmg3: great job!
[00:55]	schestowitz__	perfect
[00:55]	schestowitz__	only saved url 
[00:55]	schestowitz__	not contents
[00:55]	vmg3	not in my eyes some cruft
[00:55]	schestowitz__	can refine for the next 2 hours
[00:55]	schestowitz__	then I will grab it
[00:56]	vmg3	i'll improve my technique its all learning
[00:58]	schestowitz__	thanks
[00:58]	schestowitz__	we can do that again in future parts
[00:59]	schestowitz__	I am uploading all those files now
[00:59]	schestowitz__	the html versions too are useful to us and to readers
[00:59]	schestowitz__	and they're public or publicly funded
[00:59]	vmg3	ok thanks for learning me.  I dont know how well the links work
[00:59]	schestowitz__	to republishing should be OK
[00:59]	schestowitz__	bbiab
● Mar 16
[01:00]	schestowitz__	vmg3: http://techrights.org/files/epo-microsoft/parts-8-9/
[01:00]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Index of /files/epo-microsoft/parts-8-9
[01:04]	vmg3	internal links are broken but externals work but looks ok
[01:06]	techrights-bot	New Debian-Based Distribution Arrives on the Market http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148773#comment-28645
[01:06]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Meet TeLOS Linux, a Sleek New Debian-Based Distro with a Modern Approach on the Linux Desktop | Tux Machines
[01:06]	techrights-bot	#KDE Plasma 5.21 on openSUSE Tumbleweed | Better Then Ever http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148848 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[01:06]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Plasma 5.21 on openSUSE Tumbleweed | Better Then Ever | Tux Machines
[01:06]	techrights-bot	What to look for in #Fedora Workstation 34 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148849 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[01:06]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What to look for in Fedora Workstation 34 | Tux Machines
[01:07]	techrights-bot	#Fedora s New Logo is Finally Unveiled http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148850 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[01:07]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedoras New Logo is Finally Unveiled | Tux Machines
[01:07]	techrights-bot	#Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148851 #Google #Linux #TuxMachines
[01:07]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
[01:07]	techrights-bot	#Fedora Linux 34 Will Enable Support for Haptics Touchpads, Incremental #Flatpak App Updates http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148853 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[01:07]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora Linux 34 Will Enable Support for Haptics Touchpads, Incremental Flatpak App Updates | Tux Machines
[01:07]	techrights-bot	#UbuntuTouch OTA-16 Released with Support for Samsung Galaxy S3 Neo+, Many Improvements http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148852 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #Ubuntu
[01:07]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Touch OTA-16 Released with Support for Samsung Galaxy S3 Neo+, Many Improvements | Tux Machines
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[01:10]	schestowitz__	vmg3: which internal ones are broken?
[01:10]	schestowitz__	I know of only one broken link to one image
[01:10]	schestowitz__	part 9
[01:10]	schestowitz__	because I renamed the file
[01:11]	vmg3	the bulk of its there anyway
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[01:32]	techrights-bot	#EPO and #Microsoft Collude to Break the #Law Part VIII Addendum http://techrights.org/2021/03/15/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-8-addendum/ #europe #privacy
[01:32]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law Part VIII Addendum | Techrights
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[01:42]	schestowitz__	DaemonFC[m]: about?
[01:43]	DaemonFC[m]	You said that lawyers are sending you demands to stop talking about EPO.
[01:47]	schestowitz__	DaemonFC[m]: 
[01:47]	schestowitz__	I've just finished uploading the video
[01:47]	schestowitz__	http://techrights.org/2021/03/15/epo-waffle-on-microsoft/
[01:47]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Response to the EPOs Response to Techrights About Microsoft Cloud (Still Failing to Justify the GDPR Violations) | Techrights
[01:47]	schestowitz__	about 200mb 
[01:47]	schestowitz__	can you check the text with me
[01:47]	schestowitz__	for sanity/accuracy, not just grammar/typos
[01:56]	techrights-bot	Response to the #EPO 's Response to #Techrights About #Microsoft 'Cloud' (Still Failing to Justify the #GDPR Violations) http://techrights.org/2021/03/15/epo-waffle-on-microsoft/ #europe
[01:56]	DaemonFC[m]	Let me grab my glasses. (Due for an eye exam...)
[01:57]	techrights-bot	Matthew Schutte at #watchtroll now affirming the death of yet more #swpats that should never have been granted. " #CAFC Affirms #PTAB Rejection of Stanford Haplotype Phasing #Patent Claims Under Alice"
[01:57]	schestowitz__	DaemonFC[m]: I found one typo so far
[01:59]	DaemonFC[m]	"Recently there has been downtime in GitHub, LinkedIn, now Azure"
[01:59]	DaemonFC[m]	and now Azure
[01:59]	DaemonFC[m]	"Microsoft E-mail"
● Mar 16
[02:00]	DaemonFC[m]	e-mail (or email) should be lowercase
[02:00]	schestowitz__	I stay consistent with this style
[02:00]	schestowitz__	for decades
[02:00]	DaemonFC[m]	"source code got copied across"
[02:01]	DaemonFC[m]	copied across?
[02:02]	techrights-bot	#IPKat doing ads for #CEIPI , which is run by a criminal http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/03/monday-miscellany.html see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/CEIPI and http://techrights.org/wiki/Beno%C3%AEt_Battistelli
[02:02]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Monday Miscellany - The IPKat
[02:02]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | CEIPI - Techrights
[02:02]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Benot Battistelli - Techrights
[02:02]	schestowitz__	DaemonFC[m]: they made copies of Microsoft code
[02:03]	schestowitz__	afaik, did not change or delete originals
[02:03]	schestowitz__	so I would not call it "theft"
[02:04]	techrights-bot	Also, why would anybody serious amplify extremists like the Center for Intellectual Property Understanding? http://techrights.org/2017/02/15/cipu-lobbying-on-patents/
[02:04]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Center for Intellectual Property Understanding (CIPU) is a Lobby Group for Software Patents and Patent Maximalism | Techrights
[02:05]	DaemonFC[m]	"walk on water" might be dropped to just say walk on quicksand.
[02:05]	DaemonFC[m]	Walking on water was an alleged miracle ascribed to Jesus.
[02:05]	DaemonFC[m]	Looks okay.
[02:06]	techrights-bot	"consider the consequences of a global mandatory fair use." http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/03/book-review-global-mandatory-fair-use.html If #copyright law was to work for society rather than those who rob society and monopolise everything, we must have #fairuse provisions
[02:06]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Book review: Global Mandatory Fair Use - The IPKat
[02:07]	schestowitz__	DaemonFC[m]: yes, i know the religious reference
[02:07]	schestowitz__	it's partly a joke there
[02:07]	schestowitz__	DaemonFC[m]: thanks for checking
[02:07]	schestowitz__	I corrected what you suggested otherwise
[02:08]	schestowitz__	soon the DDG Ariadne, cybrNaut might still be editing
[02:09]	techrights-bot	The biggest enemy of the legitimacy of #patent #law is #Texas https://www.patentprogress.org/2021/03/15/one-case-all-the-problems-vlsi-v-intel-exemplifies-current-issues-in-patent-litigation/ #CCIA
[02:09]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentprogress.org | One Case, All The Problems: VLSI v. Intel Exemplifies Current Issues In Patent Litigation - Patent Progress
[02:10]	techrights-bot	The letter or the press release issued half a year ago explains the severity of the scandal weve been dealing with in recent days and will likely deal with well into April http://techrights.org/2021/03/15/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-8-addendum/ #Techrights #EPO #europe gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/15/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-8-addendum/
[02:10]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law Part VIII Addendum | Techrights
[02:11]	cybrNaut	i'm done with DDG 
[02:11]	techrights-bot	In another damage-limiting or face-saving exercise, as soon as we published details about the illegal #Microsoft deal (outsourcing all key data to the US) EPO management issued a baffling and severely flawed statement to staff http://techrights.org/2021/03/15/epo-waffle-on-microsoft/ #Techrights #EPO #corruption gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/15/epo-waffle-on-microsoft/
[02:11]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Response to the EPOs Response to Techrights About Microsoft Cloud (Still Failing to Justify the GDPR Violations) | Techrights
[02:12]	techrights-bot	Help squash #fakepatents like #swpats and get a bounty/award https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/3/15/2000-for-aml-ip-prior-art "user makes an on-line purchase." #uspto #patent
[02:12]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | $2,000 for AML IP prior art Unified Patents
[02:12]	cybrNaut	i love how this right-wing nutter inadvertently scares other conservatives away from Bank of America, which is a right-leaning bank: https://invidious.fdn.fr/watch?v=y-AmnasDev0&local=true&start=145
[02:12]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-invidious.fdn.fr | Tucker: Bank of America secretly turned over customer data to FBI - Invidious
[02:13]	schestowitz__	lol
[02:13]	schestowitz__	cybrNaut: is reddit still censoring these?
[02:13]	cybrNaut	yeah, the Reddit censorship was just added to that yesterday
[02:14]	cybrNaut	links to both the censored and uncensored versions are there
[02:21]	schestowitz__	DaemonFC[m]:  cybrNaut: can you check http://techrights.org/2021/03/15/duckduckgo-in-2021/
[02:21]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Why You Should Avoid DuckDuckGo (DDG) 2021 Edition, Now Microsoft-Hosted and With Extra Privacy Violations | Techrights
[02:21]	schestowitz__	it's a first draft
[02:21]	schestowitz__	I needed to post it quickl
[02:21]	cybrNaut	sure
[02:21]	schestowitz__	so it gets into today's bulletin
[02:21]	schestowitz__	cutoff time was 2:30, 9 mins from now
[02:24]	cybrNaut	i would change the headline "with privacy violations" to "with privacy risks", because we don't really know that MS is exploiting their privilege to tie IP to query.  It's not entirely trivial, because MS would have to analyze timing of the packet coming in to the time for DDG to proxy the query.  
[02:24]	schestowitz__	ok
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[02:24]	schestowitz__	amended
[02:27]	schestowitz__	I've just expanded and added text
[02:30]	DaemonFC[m]	"Then over a year later Reddit"
[02:30]	DaemonFC[m]	Then, over a year later, Reddit
[02:33]	cybrNaut	i wonder if the "(2019)" in par 5.4 is misleading.  2019 was when it was noticed that DDG sell swag on a CloudFlare site, but it's still true today.  
[02:33]	cybrNaut	I guess i'll hide the 2019 in a note that doesn't render, just for my notes
[02:34]	cybrNaut	some readers might think it was only an issue in 2019
[02:34]	cybrNaut	whereas spreadprivacy.com is no longer CloudFlare (5.5)
[02:36]	vmg3	guilty until proven innocent 
[02:37]	vmg3	its our right now too
[02:39]	cybrNaut	considering the changes DDG has made, I believe Techrights attention on the 1st article actually caused DDG to react.
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[02:39]	DaemonFC[m]	"eBay
[02:39]	DaemonFC[m]	transactions are impossible without using PayPal"
[02:39]	DaemonFC[m]	Not true. You could buy an ebay gift card with cash and use that, or you can directly use a credit card.
[02:40]	cybrNaut	DaemonFC[m]: thanks for the tip.  I'll update that in git
[02:40]	schestowitz__	cybrNaut: thanks
[02:41]	schestowitz__	cybrNaut: maybe do a third edition later this year
[02:41]	schestowitz__	[02:30] <DaemonFC[m]> "Then over a year later Reddit"
[02:41]	schestowitz__	maybe with typographical improvements
[02:41]	schestowitz__	the bulletin is now completed, seconds ago
[02:41]	schestowitz__	http://techrights.org/txt/
[02:41]	cybrNaut	well i think people tend to overuse commas, but I'm not fussy
[02:41]	schestowitz__	I don't want to re-generate for minor edirs
[02:41]	schestowitz__	*edits
[02:43]	cybrNaut	DaemonFC[m]: if someone directly uses credit card on eBay, is PayPal still the payment processor?
[02:43]		*DaemonFC[m] < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/cmnyNWugbpHmyVwTHaJiFfAI/message.txt >
[02:43]	DaemonFC[m]	schestowitz__: You may have accidentally posted this twice.
[02:43]	DaemonFC[m]	In the part about Yahoo.
[02:45]	schestowitz__	Yes, I've corrected it
[02:45]	schestowitz__	refresh page
[02:45]	DaemonFC[m]	"Verizon received $16.8 billion in Trump tax breaks, then
[02:45]	DaemonFC[m]	immediately laid off thousands of workers."
[02:45]	DaemonFC[m]	T-Mobile too, when they acquired Sprint using the tax savings.
[02:45]	schestowitz__	I didn't understand how the expansions worked, so added one manually, then realsied what I had done
[02:46]	DaemonFC[m]	They swapped out our SIM cards promising better service, then demanded that I pay them more for Mandy's line until I raised hell about it.
[02:46]	DaemonFC[m]	Then they made an exception to let him keep his legacy plan.
[02:46]	schestowitz__	DaemonFC[m]: refresh page
[02:46]	schestowitz__	see if you can reproduce this
[02:46]	schestowitz__	we don't do cashing
[02:46]	DaemonFC[m]	The phones work no better than they did on the old Sprint network.
[02:47]	schestowitz__	caching
[02:47]	DaemonFC[m]	The bootsplash says T-Mobile now. Only difference I noticed.
[02:47]	cybrNaut	i was half tempted to remove VZ info entirely since the relationship seems to be over, but opted to fold it in <details> in case ppl want to see it, or if it later turns out they still have a relationship
[02:48]	DaemonFC[m]	schestowitz__: Might mention the massive Yahoo data breach and the resulting class action lawsuit.
[02:48]	DaemonFC[m]	Most of the users at that time potentially had all of their emails leak out.
[02:49]	DaemonFC[m]	"(click to expand details on how Tor Project responds to criticism about their loyalty toward DuckDuckGo [their benefactor] in IRC)"
[02:49]	DaemonFC[m]	Overflows the page.
[02:51]	DaemonFC[m]	schestowitz__: T-Mobile (a foreign company no less) used the Trump tax law to do a hostile takeover of Sprint. It was not widely published that it was a hostile takeover.
[02:51]	DaemonFC[m]	They were heavily in debt and a lot of the deal was T-Mobile assuming the debt.
[02:51]	cybrNaut	DaemonFC[m]: would you say this change is accurate (for my git version)? : "eBay transactions are impossible without using PayPal" => "eBay encourages PayPal payments"
[02:52]	DaemonFC[m]	Now they're shutting down a lot of the Sprint network and harassing customers into agreeing to pay more so their phones will continue to work.
[02:53]	DaemonFC[m]	<cybrNaut "DaemonFC: would you say this cha"> They do encourage Paypal, but they by no means force it.
[02:53]	DaemonFC[m]	So accurate enough, I guess.
[02:54]	DaemonFC[m]	Now that T-Mobile is settling in, they've fired over 6,000 people.
[02:54]	cybrNaut	DaemonFC[m]: thanks.  Actually to cover the possibility that credit card payments still go through Paypal, I changed it to "eBay encourages payments that traverse PayPal"
[02:54]	vmg3	covid relief https://www.itnews.com.au/news/microsoft-could-reap-more-than-193m-in-new-us-cyber-spending-562203?utm_source=feed&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=iTnews+
[02:54]	schestowitz__	DaemonFC[m]: cybrNaut would be the one to add it
[02:54]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itnews.com.au | Microsoft could reap more than $193m in new US cyber spending - Security - iTnews
[02:54]	schestowitz__	I take it downstream
[02:54]	DaemonFC[m]	They claim that figure doesn't reflect hiring, but a lot of the hiring is the people they fired from Sprint, on contract, to tear down Sprint infrastructure.
[02:54]	schestowitz__	and have not edited directly to my copy
[02:55]	DaemonFC[m]	I would recommend buying an ebay gift card anyway.
[02:55]	techrights-bot	#microsoft = #theft https://www.itnews.com.au/news/microsoft-could-reap-more-than-193m-in-new-us-cyber-spending-562203 see also http://techrights.org/2020/08/18/microsoft-graft/
[02:55]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itnews.com.au | Microsoft could reap more than $193m in new US cyber spending - Security - iTnews
[02:55]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | With Help From Donald Trump, Microsoft is Plundering and Looting the American Taxpayers, Then Gloating About It | Techrights
[02:55]	DaemonFC[m]	iBotta gives you cash back rebates on them and if you use a Walmart Credit Card, you get 2% back if you buy the ebay card at Walmart.
[02:55]	cybrNaut	DaemonFC[m]: indeed, if i decide to stop boycotting eBay, i'll use the gift card
[02:58]	techrights-bot	Reminder: #microsoft total incompetence excused using racist tactics http://techrights.org/2021/03/03/microsoft-blame-shifting-tactics/
[02:58]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Weaponises (and Further Spreads) Racism to Distract From Its Own Incompetence (and Five Eyes Collusion for Back Door Access) | Techrights
● Mar 16
[03:00]	schestowitz__	vmg3: I will use that link in a later article
[03:00]	schestowitz__	about Part 9 but video
[03:00]	schestowitz__	they're being rewarded for breaking the law and making bad products
[03:00]	schestowitz__	at the expense of the public, which shoulders the cost induced by corporate failure (some might call this "communism")
[03:00]	vmg3	no doubt amazon would have a deal to
[03:01]	schestowitz__	gee, I wonder why poverty is rising
[03:01]	schestowitz__	while bezos gets richer...
[03:01]	schestowitz__	and gates spams the media
[03:01]	schestowitz__	which then censors people like me for calling them out on it
[03:01]	vmg3	kick em in the nads
[03:01]	techrights-ipfs	IPFS local node stats      TotalIn: 6.4 MB      TotalOut: 1.9 MB
[03:01]	techrights-ipfs	New bulletin just generated and added to IPFS with CID:
[03:01]	cybrNaut	DaemonFC[m]> "(click to expand details on how Tor Project responds to criticism about their loyalty toward DuckDuckGo [their benefactor] in IRC)" ..DaemonFC[m]> Overflows the page. <= that's particular to schestowitz__ because it's correct in https://source.puri.sm/toolauditor/CEAP/-/blob/master/audits/ddg.md
[03:01]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-source.puri.sm | audits/ddg.md master Inspector Gadget / Cyberservices Ethics Audit Project GitLab
[03:02]	techrights-ipfs	QmVcJzDwydxRsdrBEoE7ieprrcQgWHRfbAN6LkeYP2GLno
[03:02]	schestowitz__	we have 4 more articles lined up for today
[03:02]	schestowitz__	after the bulletin cutoff
[03:02]	schestowitz__	I will catch up with some free sw news now
[03:03]	schestowitz__	cybrNaut: that does not matter if people disable css
[03:03]	schestowitz__	I just hope the actual text was correctly included
[03:03]	cybrNaut	DaemonFC[m]: i'm not seeing a reason to add anything about Tmobile.  The article is on DDG, and VZ is only mentioned because of a past partnership.  
[03:03]	schestowitz__	had to make a local copy of the image
[03:04]	DaemonFC[m]	Oh, I was just mentioning them.
[03:04]	DaemonFC[m]	They're bad too.
[03:04]	schestowitz__	cybrNaut: you can decide among you two, it might be worth doing another edition later this year... helps to periodically remind people of 'old' stuff
[03:04]	DaemonFC[m]	bbiab
[03:05]	vmg3	o/
[03:05]	vmg3	all great work
[03:06]	vmg3	eye opener for me
[03:06]	techrights-bot	#Reddit seems to be censoring #DuckDuckGo revelations right now (even a year after publication), as if sponsors are more important than facts http://techrights.org/2021/03/15/duckduckgo-in-2021/ #Techrights #DDG gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/15/duckduckgo-in-2021/
[03:06]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Why You Should Avoid DuckDuckGo (DDG) 2021 Edition, Now Microsoft-Hosted and With Extra Privacy Risks | Techrights
[03:06]	schestowitz__	vmg3: cool
[03:06]	schestowitz__	thanks for the word on the pdf btw (again)
[03:06]	schestowitz__	I will do part 9 in a few hours
[03:06]	vmg3	scanning local ports should be a jail term
[03:07]	schestowitz__	I made two errors when publishing the last daily links as I was far too tired
[03:07]	schestowitz__	wrong url slug, also forgot to pick post categroty
[03:07]	vmg3	I didnt pick up any errors
[03:08]	cybrNaut	DaemonFC[m]: i boycott all 3 mobile carriers, but if I had to patronize one of them I find Tmobile to be the lesser of evils.  https://github.com/telegramdesktop/tdesktop/issues/5774
[03:08]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Stop requiring phone registration Issue #5774 telegramdesktop/tdesktop GitHub
[03:08]	schestowitz__	vmg3: thanks
[03:09]	techrights-bot	It'll very soon be 12 months since #uk lockdowns started. What a crazy year it has been, albeit hugely productive for me (personally) http://schestowitz.com/royrianne/gallery/index.php/Working-From-Home-Lock-Down
[03:09]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Working From Home (Lock-Down)
[03:09]	cybrNaut	DaemonFC[m]: i think i've incorporated all your feedback into this: https://source.puri.sm/toolauditor/CEAP/-/blob/master/audits/ddg.md  Plz feel free to let me know if anything else looks off
[03:09]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-source.puri.sm | audits/ddg.md master Inspector Gadget / Cyberservices Ethics Audit Project GitLab
[03:10]	schestowitz__	boo pclos :(
[03:10]	schestowitz__	https://www.pclinuxos.com/?p=4706
[03:10]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-MS Edge browser updated to 90.0.818.6 PCLinuxOS
[03:11]	techrights-bot	PCLinuxOS: Latest package refresh/updates http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147392#comment-28646 #pclinuxos #gnu #linux #pclos
[03:11]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Distribution Release: PCLinuxOS 2021.02 | Tux Machines
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[03:13]	cybrNaut	DaemonFC[m]: this is the diff (plus i also added a comma you mentioned): https://source.puri.sm/toolauditor/CEAP/-/commit/590e65253645fd7f9343799932cbfd93f14a1b46
[03:13]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-source.puri.sm | PayPal optional on eBay; spreadprivacy no longer CF (590e6525) Commits Inspector Gadget / Cyberservices Ethics Audit Project GitLab
[03:19]	techrights-bot	#Dancer2 has a new release. #Perl #Programming http://blogs.perl.org/users/jason_a_crome/2021/03/dancer2-0301000-released.html
[03:19]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dancer2 0.301000 Released | Jason A. Crome [blogs.perl.org]
[03:20]	techrights-bot	Glad to see #gnu #linux video folks moving away from #google #youtube #monopoly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eb7FOV6-QaE
[03:20]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Which YouTube Alternatives Can You Find Me On - YouTube
[03:21]	cybrNaut	DaemonFC[m]> schestowitz__: Might mention the massive Yahoo data breach and the resulting class action lawsuit. <= i missed that.. i'll have to look for a link on that
[03:21]	schestowitz__	yeah
[03:21]	schestowitz__	good point
[03:22]	cybrNaut	is that the story? => https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2020/12/verizon-has-been-leaking-customers-personal-information-for-days-at-least/
[03:22]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Verizon has been leaking customers personal information for days (at least) | Ars Technica
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[03:28]	techrights-bot	Additional #AMD #EPYC 75F3 / 7713 / 7763 #Linux Performance #Benchmarks http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148836#comment-28647
[03:28]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AMD EPYC 7003 "Milan" Linux Benchmarks - Superb Performance | Tux Machines
[03:30]	cybrNaut	verizon's 2020 data breach didn't make it to wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_data_breaches
[03:30]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | List of data breaches - Wikipedia
[03:30]	techrights-bot	"Welcome to the #Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter, Issue 674 for the week of March 7 13, 2021." https://fridge.ubuntu.com/2021/03/15/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-674/
[03:30]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fridge.ubuntu.com | Ubuntu Fridge | Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 674
[03:32]	techrights-bot	The linux.dev mailing-list service launches http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148844#comment-28648 #kernel #linux
[03:32]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux.dev mailing list service | Tux Machines
[03:39]	techrights-ipfs	   IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 29.95   IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 97.96 swarm size (avg): 142.12  
[03:43]	cybrNaut	DaemonFC[m]: for vz i added the 2020 breach you mention, plus a 2016 breach, and a couple bribes =>  https://source.puri.sm/toolauditor/CEAP/-/commit/b9efca808b91a03fe92d12d9e4dec2010ac72257
[03:43]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-source.puri.sm | add more dirt on VZ (b9efca80) Commits Inspector Gadget / Cyberservices Ethics Audit Project GitLab
[03:45]	cybrNaut	schestowitz__: guess i'll call it done for now unless anyone gives more feedback
[03:46]	schestowitz__	I think this will help the next edition
[03:46]	schestowitz__	maybe in June
[03:47]	schestowitz__	10 years ago we did many articles about DDG problems
[03:47]	schestowitz__	I no longer remember all the details
[03:47]	schestowitz__	and some may no longer be applicable
[03:47]	schestowitz__	but... you can search fro those
[03:47]	cybrNaut	found a new issue to look at: https://palant.info/2021/03/15/duckduckgo-privacy-essentials-vulnerabilities-insecure-communication-and-universal-xss/
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[03:47]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-palant.info | DuckDuckGo Privacy Essentials vulnerabilities: Insecure communication and Universal XSS | Almost Secure
[03:49]	schestowitz__	yeah
[03:49]	schestowitz__	we linked to that yesterday
[03:49]	schestowitz__	[15:06] <techrights-bot> Amazing that a bunch of #marketing #charlatans still help #duckduckgo push its fake #privacy or anti-privacy https://palant.info/2021/03/15/duckduckgo-privacy-essentials-vulnerabilities-insecure-communication-and-universal-xss/ stop using duckduckgo, people, and berate those who promote it http://techrights.org/2020/07/02/ddg-privacy-abuser-in-disguise/
[03:49]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Why People Should Never Ever Use DuckDuckGo | Techrights
[03:49]	schestowitz__	I recently found out that in Debian Buster at least the qute browser imposes DDG on you
[03:49]	schestowitz__	it was gross
[03:50]	schestowitz__	as covered in http://techrights.org/2021/03/08/qutebrowser-qute-gemini/
[03:50]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gemini Capsules and Pages Now Accessible in a Web Browser, Qutebrowser, But Qutebrowser Has Issues | Techrights
[03:50]	schestowitz__	with video
[03:50]	cybrNaut	well, they fixed it, but DDG has a habit of only fixing bugs that were working to DDG's advantage /after/ they get public backlash.  In one case it took them a year to fix a leak that sent data to DDG servers
[03:50]	vmg3	old but still Australias biggest telco https://delimiter.com.au/2013/07/14/exposed-telstras-secret-fbi-spy-deal/
[03:50]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-delimiter.com.au | Exposed: Telstra's secret FBI spy deal | Delimiter
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[03:51]	schestowitz__	iirc, elop still works there
[03:51]	schestowitz__	or joined it
[03:51]	schestowitz__	elop who killed nokia
[03:51]	schestowitz__	for ballmer and Gates Gang
[03:51]	schestowitz__	Telsta is also Pacnet now
[03:51]	schestowitz__	so it also impacts singapore and hk region
[03:52]	vmg3	yeah 
[03:52]	techrights-bot	The #openSUSE Virtual Conference 2021 To Take Place June 18-20 https://linuxiac.com/the-opensuse-virtual-conference-2021-to-take-place-june-18-20/ #suse #gnu #linux
[03:52]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxiac.com | The openSUSE Virtual Conference 2021 To Take Place June 18-20
[03:53]	techrights-bot	Why #Librem Tunnel is Leaving iOS https://puri.sm/posts/why-librem-tunnel-is-leaving-ios/ #ios = #nsa #backdoors
[03:53]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-puri.sm | Why Librem Tunnel is Leaving iOS Purism
[03:56]	schestowitz__	sometimes they phone me
[03:56]	kingrhodes	im glad i never trusted duckduckgo from day 0 LOL
[03:56]	schestowitz__	lol
[03:56]	vmg3	i was in boots and all
[03:56]	schestowitz__	it had many warning signs on it
[03:56]	schestowitz__	red flags
[03:56]	kingrhodes	it always sounded like an opportunist trying to find his way into the sillicon valley
[03:56]	schestowitz__	since early days
[03:56]	kingrhodes	and make it big
[03:56]	kingrhodes	yeah
[03:56]	schestowitz__	they waste loads of money on "Advertising"
[03:56]	schestowitz__	lying
[03:57]	schestowitz__	esp. in tech sites
[03:57]	schestowitz__	and they pay some projects to preload this crap
[03:57]	kingrhodes	the best privacy is to keep what's important away from the web
[03:57]	kingrhodes	best type of privacy
[03:57]	kingrhodes	i was surprised by learning that they give data to bing and google
[03:57]	kingrhodes	thanks for reporting that
[03:58]	techrights-bot	The problem is, #microsoft too monitors these devices now https://major.io/2021/03/15/monitor-ups-with-raspberry-pi-zero-w/ see http://techrights.org/2021/03/15/microsoft-spy/
[03:58]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-major.io | Monitor a UPS with a Raspberry Pi Zero W :: Major Hayden Words of wisdom from a social nerd
[03:58]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | More Than a Month Later Raspberry Pi Foundation is a Microsoft Censor | Techrights
[03:58]	techrights-bot	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148854 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[03:58]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines
● Mar 16
[04:00]	schestowitz__	kingrhodes: yeah, keep offline some things
[04:00]	schestowitz__	and no "smart' things
[04:00]	schestowitz__	they market or mass-market bad things
[04:00]	schestowitz__	you know who stands to gain
[04:00]	schestowitz__	that alone should be a warning label
[04:00]	schestowitz__	who stands to benefit
[04:00]	schestowitz__	and it's rarely you
[04:00]	kingrhodes	that's true
[04:00]	vmg3	the software, the sites, the hardware, the telco/isp, the government and then the US
[04:00]	kingrhodes	wouldn't it be great to go back to web 1.0 days
[04:01]	kingrhodes	no javascript, no "digital life", no social networks
[04:01]	kingrhodes	no cancer at all
[04:01]	kingrhodes	i wish i could get myself a feature phone
[04:01]	kingrhodes	but i can't find a cheap one that is 4g
[04:01]	kingrhodes	at least
[04:02]	vmg3	they just rounded up the guys in the crypto phone biz
[04:02]	kingrhodes	does any of you know of a mature smartphone OS? an alternative to android
[04:02]	vmg3	https://www.computerweekly.com/news/252497791/Arrest-warrants-for-Candians-behind-Sky-ECC-cryptophone-networks-used-by-organised-crime
[04:02]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computerweekly.com | Arrest warrants issued for Canadians behind Sky ECC cryptophone network used by organised crime
[04:03]	kingrhodes	one that isn't broken
[04:03]	kingrhodes	or abandoned
[04:03]	kingrhodes	it needs to be free software
[04:03]	techrights-bot	There are new builds (ISOs) of #fedora 33 this week https://jbwillia.wordpress.com/2021/03/15/fedora-linux-33-updated-live-isos-released/ #ibm #redhat
[04:03]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jbwillia.wordpress.com | Fedora Linux 33 updated Live isos released | Jbwillia's Weblog
[04:03]	kingrhodes	ideally gpl
[04:03]	vmg3	pine with manjaro but no personal experience?
[04:04]	kingrhodes	what sys do you use?
[04:04]	kingrhodes	vmg3
[04:04]	vmg3	no mobile phone but tablet with android
[04:04]	kingrhodes	what if someone needs to call you?
[04:05]	vmg3	they can txt
[04:05]	vmg3	or bugger off
[04:05]	kingrhodes	they can text the tablet?
[04:05]	kingrhodes	LOL
[04:05]	vmg3	yeah
[04:05]	kingrhodes	the more i know
[04:05]	vmg3	i dont take it out of the house often
[04:05]	kingrhodes	doesn't it worry you if a family member needs help?
[04:05]	kingrhodes	or a friend
[04:06]	vmg3	like when i needed help
[04:06]	vmg3	nah
[04:06]	kingrhodes	once they release 5g we are all fucked
[04:06]	kingrhodes	radiation AND we can only use smartphones
[04:06]	vmg3	i get treated like a lepper quite often
[04:06]	kingrhodes	i mean, old tech would be so cheap to produce nowadays
[04:07]	cybrNaut	does anyone remember a DDG bug that fed sensitive data to DDG servers, and when the public discovered and reported it, DDG did nothing, ppl forgot about it, then 1 year later it made headlines and DDG finally fixed it?  I seem to have lost track of that story
[04:07]	kingrhodes	you do?
[04:07]	kingrhodes	but what if you work a job that requires constant communication with a boss?
[04:07]	kingrhodes	or something
[04:07]	vmg3	with covid they want you to scan q codes everywhere
[04:07]	vmg3	log in/out
[04:07]	cybrNaut	maybe it wasn't ddg.. my memory is dicey
[04:08]	vmg3	my brain cells are shot
[04:08]	kingrhodes	i mean, ddg, even as a search engine, was always shit
[04:08]	kingrhodes	but they didn't censor the results as much
[04:09]	kingrhodes	i saw this beautiful alcatel phone
[04:09]	kingrhodes	in a vodafone shop
[04:09]	kingrhodes	wonderful screen and actual hard buttons
[04:09]	techrights-bot	#Techrights Bulletin for Monday, March 15, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
[04:09]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives
[04:09]	kingrhodes	i was in awe at the price too, but i cant' remember it
[04:09]	kingrhodes	F'CKING 3G
[04:09]	kingrhodes	fml
[04:09]	techrights-bot	#Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
[04:09]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index
[04:10]	techrights-bot	Building a Retro Linux Gaming Computer - Part 3: Installing Red Hat Linux 9 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148855 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[04:10]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Building a Retro Linux Gaming Computer - Part 3: Installing Red Hat Linux 9 | Tux Machines
[04:11]	vmg3	not this? https://latesthackingnews.com/2020/07/07/duckduckgo-collected-users-browsing-data-addressed-the-glitch/
[04:11]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-latesthackingnews.com | DuckDuckGo Addressed Glitch Possibly Allowing Browsing Data Collection
[04:12]	kingrhodes	>glitch
[04:12]	vmg3	favicon exploit
[04:13]	kingrhodes	why did people trust that they would simply keep their word in not tracking the users?
[04:13]	kingrhodes	mind boggling
[04:13]	vmg3	and no encryption made it worse
[04:13]	cybrNaut	vmg3: thanks, that's indeed what I was after
[04:14]	kingrhodes	your memory served you right cybernaut
[04:14]	kingrhodes	i gave up on "privacy"
[04:15]	kingrhodes	i use yahoo now, fuck it
[04:15]	kingrhodes	at least they sponsor linux mint
[04:16]	techrights-bot	Stable Release Updates on #Xubuntu https://bluesabre.org/2021/03/16/stable-release-updates-on-xubuntu/ #ubuntu #gnu #linux #xfce
[04:16]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bluesabre.org | Stable Release Updates on Xubuntu
[04:16]	cybrNaut	last line of that article => "Likewise, we expect DuckDuckGo to continue respecting the users privacy at all costs the thing they advocate for."
[04:16]	cybrNaut	lol
[04:17]	kingrhodes	which distros do you guys use?
[04:17]	vmg3	they had a bug bounty to, i dont know if it still exists
[04:17]	cybrNaut	debian
[04:17]	kingrhodes	very wise choice
[04:17]	kingrhodes	which de?
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[04:18]	vmg3	deb on main box
[04:18]	vmg3	manjaro on media center
[04:18]	schestowitz__	[04:09] <kingrhodes> wonderful screen and actual hard buttons
[04:18]	schestowitz__	one day screens will become so advanced
[04:18]	cybrNaut	what's "de"?
[04:18]	schestowitz__	that keyboard will become physical
[04:18]	schestowitz__	like blackberries
[04:18]	kingrhodes	desktop environment
[04:18]	schestowitz__	and you might even get battery life of WEEKS
[04:18]	schestowitz__	one day...
[04:18]	kingrhodes	LOL'in @ schestowitz
[04:19]	vmg3	cinnamon i like
[04:19]	cybrNaut	the stock gnome2 i think
[04:19]	kingrhodes	and maybe even DURABLE
[04:19]	kingrhodes	imagine portable devices with a battery that lasts
[04:19]	kingrhodes	:-O
[04:19]	schestowitz__	wow
[04:19]	schestowitz__	that would be smart
[04:19]	schestowitz__	and phones you can drop 1000 times
[04:19]	schestowitz__	without damage
[04:20]	kingrhodes	cybernaut, i have been using lubuntu for the past 2 years and I have been thinking of moving to debian+LXDE for while
[04:20]	schestowitz__	nokia is working on that... maybe it'll be out by 1995
[04:20]	kingrhodes	are there any problems with vanilla debian?
[04:20]	cybrNaut	cinnamon is nice -- i saw it on Mint but ran away from that since Mint puts their docs on a CloudFlare site now
[04:20]	kingrhodes	1995? that sounds so futuristic, guys
[04:20]	schestowitz__	yeah
[04:20]	kingrhodes	i wonder if we will have flying trains by then
[04:20]	schestowitz__	no back doors, either
[04:20]	schestowitz__	afaik
[04:20]	schestowitz__	they solved that issue
[04:20]	schestowitz__	only one main chip
[04:20]	MinceR	16 051721 < kingrhodes> which distros do you guys use?
[04:20]	MinceR	bedrock, void, devuan
[04:20]	schestowitz__	no co-processor
[04:21]	kingrhodes	imagine a phone that's actually responsive
[04:21]	vmg3	fav disto of all time was crunchbang but that died now something else it had openbox
[04:21]	schestowitz__	kingrhodes: you can even replace the physical battery
[04:21]	schestowitz__	you can remove it
[04:21]	MinceR	yeah, for some reason the person who did crunchbang decided that cancerd was "lightweight"
[04:21]	MinceR	and thus crunchbang became pointless
[04:21]	cybrNaut	i've not used LXDE much, but I think it's quite lightweight.. i think it appears on lean distros
[04:21]	schestowitz__	they start to design it like that... instead of soldered in and only Apple Certified(R) GURUS can replace
[04:22]	vmg3	MinceR: yeah and it became a bit political to
[04:22]	kingrhodes	im always on cli, so any non intrusive de will do it for me
[04:22]	vmg3	i think the people making it went their seperate ways
[04:22]	schestowitz__	BLAG is dead
[04:23]	kingrhodes	how successful would a "nu-feature phone" startup be?
[04:23]	kingrhodes	with phones very alike those java mobiles
[04:23]	kingrhodes	or whatever
[04:23]	techrights-bot	#LibreELEC (Matrix) 10.0 BETA1 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148856 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[04:23]	kingrhodes	basic games and jar programs
[04:23]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LibreELEC (Matrix) 10.0 BETA1 | Tux Machines
[04:23]	kingrhodes	no social media/wifi/whatever
[04:23]	cybrNaut	kingrhodes: RAT might be fun to look at.  it's quite barebones I hear.. like it doesn't even put frames around windows, i hear
[04:25]	MinceR	16 052300 < kingrhodes> how successful would a "nu-feature phone" startup be?
[04:25]	MinceR	nokia 8110 4G?
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[04:25]	kingrhodes	you mean those "nokia" re-releases?
[04:25]	techrights-bot	#UbuntuTouch OTA-16 released with improved browser, video recording, Android app support and more http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148852#comment-28650 #gnu #linux
[04:25]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Touch OTA-16 Released with Support for Samsung Galaxy S3 Neo+, Many Improvements | Tux Machines
[04:25]	kingrhodes	they weren't even made by nokia
[04:26]	MinceR	:>
[04:26]	kingrhodes	and they have social media and wifi
[04:26]	kingrhodes	also, waaaaay too expensive for their own good
[04:26]	MinceR	iirc they were marketed as featurephones
[04:26]	kingrhodes	blackberries were the last generation of non-smartphones
[04:26]	kingrhodes	and now they are dead
[04:26]	kingrhodes	pretty much
[04:27]	kingrhodes	0 options now
[04:27]	MinceR	there are various mobile phones made for old people
[04:27]	MinceR	with large buttons, but also, inexplicable, tiny screens
[04:27]	MinceR	s/ble/bly/
[04:27]	kingrhodes	LOL
[04:27]	techrights-bot	Volunteers add wiki pages for #canonical to profit from (Ubuntu "community") and now this... https://popey.com/blog/2021/03/ubuntu-wiki-reboot/ see also http://techrights.org/2021/02/15/cancel-canonical/
[04:27]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-popey.com | Ubuntu Wiki Reboot - Alan Pope's blog
[04:27]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Cancel Canonical? | Techrights
[04:27]	kingrhodes	once 5g comes along
[04:27]	kingrhodes	they will stop working
[04:28]	MinceR	5G came along a while ago
[04:28]	kingrhodes	well, once they abolish the older gens
[04:28]	kingrhodes	i mean
[04:28]	MinceR	my phone even supports it, and i think it even connected to it when i was in the inner city
[04:30]	techrights-bot	Pure hype from #ibm and firms it pays to play along with this hype https://developer.ibm.com/blogs/build-smart-on-kubernetes-2021-update/
[04:30]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.ibm.com | Build Smart on Kubernetes World Tour: Back for 2021! IBM Developer
[04:30]	techrights-bot	Racist #ibm helps 21st century Nazis https://developer.ibm.com/blogs/data-and-ai-applications-with-palantir-for-ibm-cloud-pak-for-data/ #palantir
[04:30]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.ibm.com | Data and AI applications with Palantir for IBM Cloud Pak for Data IBM Developer
[04:33]	techrights-bot	#racist #ibm uses #linuxfoundation as a smokescreen. Don't fall for it!! http://techrights.org/2020/07/26/same-old-ibm/
[04:33]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM Has Learned Nothing | Techrights
[04:34]	techrights-bot	#ibm is still very afraid that 100% of the public, inc. its existing customers, will find out its second-biggest customer was Hitler (literally Hitler(R))
[04:34]	techrights-bot	#LinuxMint 20: Better Than Ubuntu and Microsoft Windows? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148857 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[04:34]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mint 20: Better Than Ubuntu and Microsoft Windows? | Tux Machines
[04:36]	techrights-bot	#IBM is #openwashing its proprietary #mainframes by outsourcing some bits of code to #Microsoft 's #proprietarysoftware trap, GitHub https://developer.ibm.com/blogs/the-zowe-project-building-open-source-with-open-source/
[04:36]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.ibm.com | The Zowe project: Build open source with open source IBM Developer
[04:36]	vmg3	This uses the ddg bot :O  https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/alerts/aa21-062a
[04:36]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-us-cert.cisa.gov | Mitigate Microsoft Exchange Server Vulnerabilities | CISA
[04:37]	techrights-bot	Rakudo Weekly News: 2021.11 Two Year Itch https://rakudoweekly.blog/2021/03/15/2021-11-two-year-itch/ #rakulang #programming
[04:37]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rakudoweekly.blog | 2021.11 Two Year Itch Rakudo Weekly News
[04:39]	techrights-ipfs	   IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 23.10   IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 54.88 swarm size (avg): 142.25  
[04:40]	techrights-bot	#IBM tells us it's against #racism while working for #Palantir and #BillGates tells us he's caring for the environment even though he's the world's biggest polluter. Facts matter no more.
[04:41]	techrights-bot	#IBM #RedHat still promoting nothing but its vendor lock-in, Ansible. Yes, it's "OPEN SAUCE".... but like #systemd it creates dependence on the sole vendor that maintains and support it.
[04:43]	vmg3	sounds like the trail runs dead at vps/vpn yet they cry china.  
[04:43]	techrights-bot	"If youre looking at some Jetpack Compose code or tutorials written last year, you might see the use of onCommit, onActive, and onDispose." https://tigeroakes.com/posts/compose-oncommit-deprecated/
[04:43]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tigeroakes.com | How to replace onCommit, onActive, and onDispose in Jetpack Compose | Tiger Oakes
[04:44]	techrights-bot	Mike Taylor: Slack is optimized for Firefox version 520 https://miketaylr.com/posts/2021/03/firefox-version-520-works-in-slack.html #Slack is illegal in most places. But the #law isn't being enforced. http://techrights.org/2019/07/20/slack-is-dead/
[04:44]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-miketaylr.com | Slack is optimized for Firefox version 520
[04:44]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Slack Committed a Very Major Crime That Can Cost Many Billions If Not Trillions in Damages for Years to Come | Techrights
[04:46]	techrights-bot	#firefox blog is not about tech and hasn't been in a while either. When a grifting CEO is a corporate lawyer with no technical skills https://blog.mozilla.org/firefox/briana-brake-spaceway-brewing-woman-owned-online-business/
[04:46]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | How one business founder is brewing new ideas for her future after a rough 2020 | The Firefox Frontier
[04:46]	MinceR	16 054314 < vmg3> sounds like the trail runs dead at vps/vpn yet they cry china.
[04:46]	MinceR	"KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!"
[04:47]	techrights-bot	#IBM / #RedHat / Fedora: Ansible, Openwashing and New Builds of Fedora 33 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148858 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[04:47]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat/Fedora: Ansible, Openwashing and New Builds of Fedora 33 | Tux Machines
[04:47]	vmg3	there is a webshell called chinachopper that must be the giveaway 
[04:48]	schestowitz__	run for da china!!
[04:48]	vmg3	lol i needed a good laugh
[04:50]	techrights-bot	An ever-so-desperate Michael Borella is still trying to come up with bogus logic for #softwarepatents , which he's looking to profit from by litigation and pestering https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/03/on-the-patent-eligibility-of-information-processing.html #patents #swpats
[04:50]	MinceR	echo jyna >/etc/myname
[04:50]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: On the Patent Eligibility of Information Processing
[04:51]	vmg3	so cisa get all their info from https://www.volexity.com/blog/2021/03/02/active-exploitation-of-microsoft-exchange-zero-day-vulnerabilities/
[04:51]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Operation Exchange Marauder: Active Exploitation of Multiple Zero-Day Microsoft Exchange Vulnerabilities | Volexity
[04:51]	vmg3	FMD
[04:52]	vmg3	tell em the price son
[04:52]	techrights-bot	""Continued work on preparing Git itself to be able to use the main branch name by default rather than master." Yup, spend more time on nonsense, it will help developers in their work" https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1244869-git-2-31-released-with-moving-more-of-the-bisecting-code-to-c
[04:52]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Git 2.31 Released With Moving More Of The Bisecting Code To C - Phoronix Forums
[04:53]	techrights-bot	"There was a word that was once used for "happy" but no one remembers its use. Literally now also means figuratively. Context decides meaning, but some racist people seem to only see slaves and slavers when looking at code." https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1244869-git-2-31-released-with-moving-more-of-the-bisecting-code-to-c
[04:54]	techrights-bot	"I find it ironic that the same people who are so concerned about the damage from using the word "master" are so often the ones who have no problem applying seriously offensive words (racist, nazi, etc) to describe someone who disagrees with them. Now the words don't mean anything anymore." https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1244869-git-2-31-released-with-moving-more-of-the-bisecti
[04:55]	techrights-bot	A lot of the current push to ban the word master came from #RedHat (soon IBM, helped by #Intel and #Microsoft for the most part); we take a hard look at IBMs history to better understand the incredible double standards and what the real motivations might be http://techrights.org/2020/09/29/banning-the-word-master/
[04:55]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM Fought for Master Race and Now Its Banning the Word Master | Techrights
[04:56]	MinceR	compensating for helping hitler kill jews by banning a word
[04:56]	techrights-bot	#Git v2.31.0 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148859 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #deletegithub
[04:56]	MinceR	such heroism :>
[04:56]	vmg3	this guy is jewish https://www.theverge.com/2021/3/15/22332888/github-employee-fired-nazi-slack-declines-offer-job-back
[04:56]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Git v2.31.0 | Tux Machines
[04:56]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | GitHub employee fired for saying Nazi in Slack declines to take his job back - The Verge
[04:57]	techrights-bot	Sad to see #freecodecamp giving bad advice, sort of endorsing the outsourcing to malicious #SurveillanceCapitalism under the guise/comfort blanket of #ClownComputing https://www.freecodecamp.org/news/cost-optimization-in-aws/
[04:57]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freecodecamp.org | How to Optimize your AWS Cloud Architecture Costs
[04:59]	techrights-bot	#microsoft #github : we ban the word "master" to "protect" you! Also GitHub: https://www.theverge.com/2021/3/15/22332888/github-employee-fired-nazi-slack-declines-offer-job-back
[04:59]	vmg3	must run \o/  
● Mar 16
[05:00]	techrights-bot	#DestinationLinux 217: Hack Snack with Bo Weaver, SUSE Targeting CentOS Defectors?, & More https://destinationlinux.org/episode-217/
[05:00]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-destinationlinux.org | 217: Hack Snack with Bo Weaver, SUSE Targeting CentOS Defectors?, & More - Destination Linux
[05:05]	techrights-bot	#Ubuntu : Wiki Reboot, Stable Release Updates on #Xubuntu , and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148860 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[05:06]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu: Wiki Reboot, Stable Release Updates on Xubuntu, and More | Tux Machines
[05:06]	techrights-bot	#PinePhone Beta Edition goes up for pre-order soon http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148861 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[05:06]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PinePhone Beta Edition goes up for pre-order soon | Tux Machines
[05:07]	techrights-bot	#Xen Project is now a CVE Numbering Authority (CNA) - Xen Project https://xenproject.org/2021/03/15/xen-project-is-now-a-cve-numbering-authority-cna/ #xenproject | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/03/16/#latest
[05:07]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xenproject.org | Xen Project is now a CVE Numbering Authority (CNA) - Xen Project
[05:07]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts
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[05:08]	techrights-bot	Hahahahaha! Only dumb consumers will buy #surveillance shite like this... https://www.iottechtrends.com/never-run-out-of-supplies-dash-smart-shelf/
[05:08]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iottechtrends.com | Never Run Out of Supplies with the Dash Smart Shelf - IoT Tech Trends
[05:10]	techrights-bot	"Blogging is hard." https://www.supergoodcode.com/what-happened-to-blogging/
[05:10]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.supergoodcode.com | What Happened To Blogging? Mike Blumenkrantz Super. Good. Code.
[05:11]	schestowitz__	x https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/14/us/politics/us-hacks-china-russia.html
[05:11]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | White House Weighs New Cybersecurity Approach After Failure to Detect Hacks - The New York Times
[05:11]	schestowitz__	# covering for m$; it instead comes down to Windoze TCO;
[05:16]	schestowitz__	LOL x https://thehill.com/opinion/cybersecurity/543206-cybersecurity-is-more-critical-than-bidens-rescue-plan
[05:16]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cybersecurity is more critical than Biden's rescue plan | TheHill
[05:16]	schestowitz__	wtf?
[05:16]	schestowitz__	"Avraham Shama is the former dean of the College of Business at the University of Texas, The Pan-American. He is a professor emeritus at the Anderson School of Management at the University of New Mexico. He has published a book and many articles about Russia. His new book, The Dawn of Cyberwars, is forthcoming."
[05:17]	MinceR	obligatory https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120614/01590919314/cyberpolitics-cyberbellicosity-cyberpushing-cybersecurity-to-cyberprevent-cyberwar.shtml
[05:17]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Cyberpolitics Of Cyberbellicosity Cyberpushing Cybersecurity To Cyberprevent Cyberwar | Techdirt
[05:19]	techrights-bot	"As Senator Harry Reid has declared that the Senate absolutely will vote on a cybersecurity bill soon, despite significant questions about the bills under consideration and about whether such a bill is really needed at all, Jim Harper points out the politics behind all of this" https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120614/01590919314/cyberpolitics-cyberbellicosity-cyberpushing-cybersecurity-to-cyberprevent-cyberwar.shtm
[05:24]	techrights-bot	Open-Source Team Describes the Difficulties to Port Linux on M1 Macs https://wccftech.com/open-source-team-describes-the-difficulties-to-port-linux-on-m1-macs/ #linux #kernel
[05:24]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wccftech.com | Open-Source Team Describes the Difficulties to Port Linux on M1 Macs
[05:24]	techrights-bot	Porting operating systems to Apple Silicon leagues harder than migrating software https://forums.appleinsider.com/discussion/220632 #linux #kernel
[05:24]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.appleinsider.com | Porting operating systems to Apple Silicon leagues harder than migrating software - Mac Software Discussions on AppleInsider Forums
[05:25]	techrights-bot	New & Much Improved WireGuard Implementation Comes To FreeBSD - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=FreeBSD-New-WireGuard #Phoronix #Kernel #FreeBSD #BSD #UNIX
[05:25]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New & Much Improved WireGuard Implementation Comes To FreeBSD - Phoronix
[05:29]	techrights-bot	#GStreamer: GStreamer 1.18.4 stable bug fix release http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148862 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[05:29]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GStreamer: GStreamer 1.18.4 stable bug fix release | Tux Machines
[05:29]	techrights-bot	Diego Escalante Urrelo: packpath: A command line utility to upload Signal stickers from a simple config file https://diegoe.be/2021/03/15/packpath-upload-signal-stickers-from-config-file/ #freesw
[05:29]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-packpath: A command line utility to upload Signal stickers from a simple config file diegoe.be
[05:32]	techrights-bot	Oh, wow! What a buzzwords salad! https://www.suse.com/c/cloud-computing-in-2021-what-you-should-know-about-public-private-hybrid-paas-saas-and-faas/
[05:32]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cloud Computing in 2021: What You Should Know about Public, Private, Hybrid, PaaS, SaaS and FaaS | SUSE Communities
[05:36]	techrights-bot	#MarcusLundblad : Maps and #GNOME40 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148863 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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[05:37]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Marcus Lundblad: Maps and GNOME 40 | Tux Machines
[05:37]	techrights-bot	Complexities in bringing Linux to Apples M1 Macs http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148864 #Kernel #Linux #TuxMachines #apple
[05:37]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Complexities in bringing Linux to Apples M1 Macs | Tux Machines
[05:39]	techrights-ipfs	   IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 16.91   IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 63.58 swarm size (avg): 142.37  
[05:42]	techrights-bot	#PocketPC. handheld Linux computer is getting a price hike http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148865 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[05:42]	techrights-bot	#Security Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148866 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[05:42]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Pocket P.C. handheld Linux computer is getting a price hike | Tux Machines
[05:42]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
[05:43]	techrights-bot	 NEWS #RaspberryPi #RasPi #GNU #Linux How not to code: a guide to concise #programming https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/how-not-to-code-a-guide-to-concise-programming/ http://techrights.org/2021/03/15/microsoft-spy/
[05:43]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.raspberrypi.org | How not to code: a guide to concise programming - Raspberry Pi
[05:43]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | More Than a Month Later Raspberry Pi Foundation is a Microsoft Censor | Techrights
[05:44]	techrights-bot	 NEWS #MichaelStapelberg Make your intercom smarter with an #MQTT backpack https://michael.stapelberg.ch/posts/2021-03-13-smart-intercom-backpack/
[05:44]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-michael.stapelberg.ch | Make your intercom smarter with an MQTT backpack - Michael Stapelberg
[05:44]	techrights-bot	 NEWS #EuroBSDCon #BSD #UNIX The Call for Talk and presentation proposals for #EuroBSDCon 2021 is now open. https://2021.eurobsdcon.org/cfp/
[05:44]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-2021.eurobsdcon.org | Call For Papers eurobsdcon
[05:45]	techrights-bot	 NEWS #Medium Using #Estonia e-Residency card for SSH Authentication https://medium.com/dac-technology-blog/using-estonian-e-residency-card-for-ssh-authentication-f812eda4ce86
[05:45]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Using Estonian e-Residency card for SSH Authentication | by Krzysztof Radecki | DAC Technology Blog | Medium
[05:45]	techrights-bot	 NEWS #KevQuirk A Child Of Twenty Twenty One https://kevq.uk/a-child-of-twenty-twenty-one/
[05:45]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kevq.uk | A Child Of Twenty Twenty One - Kev Quirk
[05:45]	techrights-bot	 NEWS #KevQuirk #Programming Getting started With Git A Simple Beginners Guide https://kevq.uk/getting-started-with-git-a-simple-beginners-guide/
[05:45]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kevq.uk | Getting started With Git - A Simple Beginner's Guide - Kev Quirk
[05:46]	techrights-bot	Getting back to work for the Nazis https://www.theverge.com/2021/3/15/22332888/github-employee-fired-nazi-slack-declines-offer-job-back #microsoft #github
[05:46]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | GitHub employee fired for saying Nazi in Slack declines to take his job back - The Verge
[05:48]	techrights-bot	#Microsoft #Windows TCO: #IndiaTimes #ProprietarySoftware #Ransomware attack on Pimpri Chinchwad Smart City servers managed by Tech Mahindra https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/digital-security/ransomware-attack-on-pimpri-chinchwad-smart-city-servers-managed-by-tech-mahindra/81523554
[05:48]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | ransomware attack: Ransomware attack on Pimpri Chinchwad Smart City servers managed by Tech Mahindra, IT News, ET CIO
[05:49]	techrights-bot	 NEWS #IndiaTimes #ProprietarySoftware Attacks on firms using #Microsoft #email servers [sic] tripled in 72 hrs https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/digital-security/attacks-on-firms-using-microsoft-email-servers-tripled-in-72-hrs/81509633
[05:49]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | Attacks on firms using Microsoft email servers tripled in 72 hrs, IT News, ET CIO
[05:49]	techrights-bot	 NEWS #ITWire #ProprietarySoftware #Microsoft360 services take a hit globally after authentication update https://www.itwire.com/security/microsoft-365-services-take-a-hit-globally-after-authentication-update.html
[05:49]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Microsoft 365 services take a hit globally after authentication update
[05:55]	techrights-bot	#socialcontrolmedia isn't banning people who oppose #vaccination but those who discuss various aspects critical of some things, e.g. #monopoly with #patents http://techrights.org/2021/02/05/twitter-censorship-bingo/
[05:55]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Twitter Has Just Suspended the President of FFII for Naming Bill Gates Patent Profiteering and Factual Information About Twitter Censorship (Updated) | Techrights
[05:57]	techrights-bot	...But yet worse, even people who do discuss a real situation, e.g. loved one who died with vaccine-related complications, is being talked down as "anti-science" if not banned altogether. This is death of #freespeech disguised as "safety".
[05:57]	techrights-bot	#ProprietarySoftware and #Microsoft Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148867 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[05:57]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Software and Microsoft Leftovers | Tux Machines
[05:57]	techrights-bot	Devices: Raspberry Pi, Librem, MQTT http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148868 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[05:57]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Devices: Raspberry Pi, Librem, MQTT | Tux Machines
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[07:22]	DVulgaris	So, I just saw the article on duckduckgo - I just recently had learned that it used Bing at the backend and I'm looking for alternatives.
[07:23]	DVulgaris	YaCy was an obvious one, but it's results are quite lacking usually - I'd like to hear what people around here generally use, since GNU IceCat comes with duckduckgo by default sadly.
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[08:48]	techrights-bot	 NEWS #TheVerge #Energy India will reportedly introduce bill to make owning cryptocurrency illegal https://www.theverge.com/2021/3/15/22332677/india-cryptocurrency-trading-mining-possession-ban-law-report
[08:48]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | India will reportedly introduce bill to make owning cryptocurrency illegal - The Verge
[08:48]	techrights-bot	 NEWS #NewScientist #Energy Colorado's legal cannabis farms emit more carbon than its coal mines https://www.newscientist.com/article/2270366-colorados-legal-cannabis-farms-emit-more-carbon-than-its-coal-mines/
[08:48]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newscientist.com | Colorado's legal cannabis farms emit more carbon than its coal mines | New Scientist
[08:49]	techrights-bot	 NEWS #NewYorkTimes #Finance #FinancialBubble #FictionalValues Stripe Is Most Valuable U.S. Start-Up, Worth $95 Billion: Live Updates https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/03/15/business/stock-market-today
[08:49]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Grammy Awards Viewers Plunge 53 Percent - The New York Times
[08:53]	techrights-bot	 NEWS #Bloomberg #Censorship #XiJinping Warns Against Tech Excess in Sign Crackdown Will Widen https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-16/xi-warns-against-tech-excess-in-sign-crackdown-will-widen
[08:53]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
[08:53]	techrights-bot	 NEWS #HollywoodReporter #Censorship #Vimeo 's #Section230 Win in Pastor's Discrimination Suit Affirmed by Appeals Court https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/vimeos-section-230-win-in-pastors-discrimination-suit-affirmed-by-appeals-court
[08:53]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hollywoodreporter.com | Vimeo's Section 230 Win in Pastor's Discrimination Suit Affirmed by Appeals Court | Hollywood Reporter
[08:55]	techrights-bot	 NEWS #RTL #Censorship Strange #Twitter bug bans [sic] users for mentioning 'Memphis' https://today.rtl.lu/news/business-and-tech/a/1688811.html even worse: http://techrights.org/2021/02/05/twitter-censorship-bingo/
[08:55]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-today.rtl.lu | RTL Today - Don't Mention Memphis: Strange Twitter bug bans users for mentioning 'Memphis'
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[08:56]	schestowitz__	DVulgaris: searx
[08:56]	schestowitz__	https://searx.feneas.
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[08:56]	schestowitz__	https://searx.feneas.org
[08:56]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-searx.feneas.org | searx
[08:56]	DVulgaris	schestowitz__: Thanks!
[08:57]	techrights-bot	 NEWS #MalayMail #Censorship Unemployed man in KL fined RM10,000 for insulting #Islam on #Facebook https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/2021/03/15/unemployed-man-in-kl-fined-rm10000-for-insulting-islam-on-facebook/1957991
[08:57]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.malaymail.com | Unemployed man in KL fined RM10,000 for insulting Islam on Facebook | Malaysia | Malay Mail
[08:59]	DVulgaris	Oh, I can even apparently self-host it: guess what I'm gonna do
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[09:00]	schestowitz__	go for it
[09:01]	techrights-bot	 NEWS #TheVerge #Censorship #Facebook strikes #NewsCorp deal to license news from Australian media outlets https://www.theverge.com/2021/3/15/22332658/facebook-news-corp-rupert-murdoch-deal-australia-sky-news
[09:01]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Facebook strikes News Corp deal to license news from Australian media outlets - The Verge
[09:01]	techrights-bot	 NEWS #BBC #murdoch #zuckerberg #Facebook to pay News Corp for content in #Australia https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-56410335
[09:01]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Facebook to pay News Corp for content in Australia - BBC News
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[09:09]	techrights-bot	 NEWS #TheEconomist #Censorship Why the [Internet] has not freed #China https://www.economist.com/china/2021/03/13/why-the-internet-has-not-freed-china
[09:09]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Chaguan - Why the internet has not freed China | China | The Economist
[09:24]	techrights-bot	#IRC Proceedings: Monday, March 15, 2021 http://techrights.org/2021/03/16/irc-log-150321/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/16/irc-log-150321/
[09:24]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Monday, March 15, 2021 | Techrights
[09:27]	techrights-bot	#EPO and #Microsoft Collude to Break the Law Part IX: Know Your Vendor http://techrights.org/2021/03/16/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-9/ #europe #surveillance #espionage
[09:27]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law Part IX: Know Your Vendor | Techrights
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[10:43]	vmg3	schestowitz__: gemini link on Part IX should be gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/15/epo-waffle-on-microsoft/index.gmi
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[10:46]	techrights-bot	 NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #Adobe Goes After 27-Year Old 'Pirated' Copy of #AcrobatReader 1.0 for MS-DOS https://torrentfreak.com/adobe-goes-after-27-year-old-pirated-copy-of-acrobat-reader-1-0-for-ms-dos-210315/
[10:46]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Adobe Goes After 27-Year Old 'Pirated' Copy of Acrobat Reader 1.0 for MS-DOS * TorrentFreak
[10:47]	vmg3	maybe my end but the links wont resolve without index.gmi
[10:49]	schestowitz__	vmg3: gm
[10:49]	schestowitz__	I wanted to ask
[10:49]	vmg3	sorry i hope i didn't wake you
[10:50]	schestowitz__	vmg3: re gemini, btw, wait, I will check
[10:50]	schestowitz__	can the 4 docs for parts 10 and 12 be converted like part 9's?
[10:50]	schestowitz__	http://techrights.org/files/epo-microsoft/
[10:50]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Index of /files/epo-microsoft
[10:50]	vmg3	yeah i'll give it a go
[10:51]	schestowitz__	gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/15/epo-waffle-on-microsoft/ works for me
[10:51]	schestowitz__	what reader/client for gemini do you test this on?
[10:51]	vmg3	amfora
[10:51]	schestowitz__	same here
[10:51]	vmg3	tried all machines
[10:51]	schestowitz__	I've just done a video with your part 9 html version
[10:51]	schestowitz__	it's still uploading, will be ready in a few minutes
[10:52]	vmg3	i can access the page if i put in index.gmi but not without
[10:52]	vmg3	weird
[10:52]	vmg3	10 - 12 im on it
[10:54]	schestowitz__	cheers!
[10:54]	schestowitz__	these will help
[10:54]	schestowitz__	looked at by high-level people already
[10:55]	techrights-bot	New #Ubuntu Linux #Kernel Security Updates Address Six Vulnerabilities, Patch Now http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148869 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[10:56]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Ubuntu Linux Kernel Security Updates Address Six Vulnerabilities, Patch Now | Tux Machines
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[11:03]	techrights-bot	#Microsoft Breaking European #Privacy #Laws While Distracting the Public: The Evidence (a Formal 91-Page Report) http://techrights.org/2021/03/16/formal-report-microsoft-violations/ #Europe #EPO
[11:03]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Breaking European Privacy Laws While Distracting the Public: The Evidence (a Formal 91-Page Report) | Techrights
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[11:05]	techrights-bot	#JingPad A 11 inch 5G Linux tablet running #JingOS introduced http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148835#comment-28653 #gnu #linux
[11:05]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | JingPad A1 is a Linux tablet powered by JingOS | Tux Machines
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[11:06]	techrights-bot	#Fedora Workstation 34 Should Be Very Exciting With #GNOME 40, #PipeWire Default http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148849#comment-28651
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[11:22]	techrights-bot	Links 16/3/2021: #GStreamer 1.18.4, Git 2.31.0, and #Microsoft in Disarray http://techrights.org/2021/03/16/gstreamer-1-18-4/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/16/gstreamer-1-18-4/
[11:22]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 16/3/2021: GStreamer 1.18.4, Git 2.31.0, and Microsoft in Disarray | Techrights
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[11:34]	techrights-bot	#Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148870 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[11:34]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
[11:34]	techrights-bot	#Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148871 #Google #Linux #TuxMachines
[11:34]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
[11:35]	techrights-bot	#Mozilla / #Firefox Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148872 #WWW #freeSW #TuxMachines
[11:35]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla/Firefox Leftovers | Tux Machines
[11:36]	techrights-bot	#BSD and #SUSE Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148873 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[11:36]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | BSD and SUSE Leftovers | Tux Machines
[11:36]	techrights-bot	Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148874 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[11:36]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines
[11:37]	techrights-bot	#Microsoft is one of the worlds worst offenders when it comes to #privacy , but vendor assessment by the #EPO conveniently overlooks the #law http://techrights.org/2021/03/16/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-9/ #Techrights #europe gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/16/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-9/
[11:37]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law Part IX: Know Your Vendor | Techrights
[11:38]	techrights-bot	Todays video examining the report, which includes hard evidence, of #Microsoft s privacy violations (never mind #privacy failures due to #security breaches, which have become more than routine) http://techrights.org/2021/03/16/formal-report-microsoft-violations/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/16/formal-report-micro
[11:43]	vmg3	schestowitz__: /home/parker/techrights/Part-10-EDPS-press-release-April-2019.html
[11:43]	vmg3	/home/parker/techrights/Part-10-EDPS-press-release-April-2019_ind.html
[11:43]	vmg3	/home/parker/techrights/Part-10-EDPS-press-release-April-2019-N_N.png
[11:44]	vmg3	sorry
[11:44]	vmg3	schestowitz__: https://mega.nz/file/Zow2xBCI#rYTKRFbly7WDUHB9O4Rt3Q__dAwcwrg5x2jb6w28ABg
[11:44]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mega.nz | NO TITLE
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[11:49]	vmg3	onto the video
[11:52]	vmg3	toc is broken in a couple of those 
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[11:58]	techrights-bot	Meme/Teaser: Lipstick on #EPO in the Cloud http://techrights.org/2021/03/16/lipstick-on-epo/ #Techrights #microsoft #europe gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/16/lipstick-on-epo/
● Mar 16
[12:08]	vmg3	I think the mentioning of encrypton all the time is to create some plausible deniability
[12:17]	psydroid	I can't reach the website currently, but I can reach the Gemini server
[12:19]	vmg3	psydroid: its working here
[12:20]	psydroid	really weird that it doesn't load, but that's on my phone
[12:20]	psydroid	let me try on my laptop
[12:21]	vmg3	android?
[12:21]	vmg3	mine has been nagging me to update and do something with samsung 2fa  wouldnt go to my bank today until rebooted
[12:21]	psydroid	yes, laptop has ghostbsd
[12:22]	psydroid	everything is up to date on my phone
[12:28]	vmg3	Its been a few years since I ran bsd hows video now?
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[12:31]	psydroid	it seems to work just fine minus the DRM stuff
[12:32]	vmg3	yeah i have the same problem with my media player with manjaro
[12:32]	psydroid	this is also the cheapest laptop I have, my normal ones run Debian
[12:32]	vmg3	security is good
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[12:33]	vmg3	our gov is banging on about unauth'd apps
[12:33]	psydroid	I think we shouldn't let "conveniences" like DRM keep ourselves from running otherwise good software
[12:34]	vmg3	I can see users being blamed next in the media
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[12:38]	schestowitz__	vmg3: thanks, catching up now
[12:38]	schestowitz__	just recorded something...
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[12:39]	schestowitz__	[12:34] <vmg3> I can see users being blamed next in the media
[12:39]	schestowitz__	Steve Jobs: you hold the phone the wrong way!!
[12:44]	vmg3	lol
[12:45]	vmg3	hope they up to scratch i had a bit of trouble but think the guts of it is there
[12:46]	schestowitz__	vmg3: I see 3 text files
[12:46]	schestowitz__	is one missing
[12:46]	schestowitz__	for the press release?
[12:46]	schestowitz__	the rest are good
[12:46]	schestowitz__	will be handy
[12:46]	vmg3	im on it sorry
[12:50]	vmg3	https://mega.nz/file/JggkSDAD#ELtxTCt08gVe7_44F-TFxwPRtZMSGo8Zouq_r2ma1ek
[12:53]	schestowitz__	excellent, uploading to our server now
[12:53]	vmg3	please double check i was a bit flustered 
[12:54]	schestowitz__	I checked a few here and there
[12:54]	schestowitz__	looked ok
[12:54]	vmg3	cool
[12:54]	schestowitz__	does not have to be perfect, the originals (PDFs) are unchanged and the rest as for convenience, for search engine, and lazy readers 
[12:54]	schestowitz__	or people on slow connections
[12:54]	schestowitz__	some phones cannot handle pdf, either
[12:54]	vmg3	ahh ok
[12:55]	schestowitz__	It is in the process of uploading
[12:55]	schestowitz__	http://techrights.org/files/epo-microsoft/parts-10-12/
[12:55]	schestowitz__	I also upload a 300MB video right now
[12:55]	schestowitz__	it's mostly about software patents
[12:55]	vmg3	I'm enjoying the vids
[12:57]	vmg3	our gov is a big ms user and yet have been remarkably quiet while demanding info from business
[12:57]	schestowitz__	yeah
[12:57]	schestowitz__	all this is applicable universally
[12:57]	schestowitz__	not just europe/epo
[12:57]	schestowitz__	hence microsoft and epo hoping to silence us
[12:58]	schestowitz__	I'm sure they still try to figure our additional ways
[12:58]	vmg3	they will guild lilly
[12:58]	schestowitz__	threatening publishers who mentioned how they sent lawyers mostly backfired
[12:58]	schestowitz__	only gave us more legitimacy at the end
[12:58]	schestowitz__	so they now issue internal communications
[12:59]	schestowitz__	trying in vain to insinuate we're wrong
[12:59]	schestowitz__	but fail for two reasons
[12:59]	schestowitz__	1) they lack actual substanc e
[12:59]	schestowitz__	2) people leak those comms to us
[12:59]	schestowitz__	which means we can rebut the nonsense (1)
[12:59]	vmg3	opaque is no way to run
[12:59]	schestowitz__	I am going to work on part 10 now
● Mar 16
[13:00]	schestowitz__	the next video takes 2 hours to upload on our connection
[13:00]	schestowitz__	with ipfs and gemini running, among other stuff (e.g. wife watching youtube)
[13:00]	schestowitz__	the next video is more of an amusing type
[13:00]	schestowitz__	use the f word a few times
[13:00]	schestowitz__	I'm allowed, this is NOT youtube
[13:01]	vmg3	It pisses me off that nation security is the excuse they use to justify their evil deeds here
[13:01]	vmg3	lol
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[13:01]	schestowitz__	security
[13:02]	schestowitz__	yes, this is a violation of it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_Gap?wprov=srpw1_0
[13:02]	schestowitz__	security has been ssssssooooo stellar
[13:02]	schestowitz__	that you got colonised already :-) LOL
[13:02]	schestowitz__	hmm... bot down
[13:03]	vmg3	yeah 5eyes calls us unaustralian if we talk about it or worse
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[13:03]	TechrightsBot-tr	Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77
[13:09]	schestowitz__	vmg3: inmates stay inmates
[13:09]	schestowitz__	of US empire
[13:09]	schestowitz__	not British empire
[13:09]	schestowitz__	in the .ph they teach them they were liberated from spaniards and japenese empire
[13:09]	vmg3	we're lap dogs
[13:09]	schestowitz__	only to be colonised by us
[13:09]	schestowitz__	celebrate, peasants! Murica!
[13:09]	schestowitz__	"we gave you mcdonalds!"
[13:10]	vmg3	lol 
[13:10]	vmg3	the irony is the map they when they gave it back
[13:10]	vmg3	didn't even have scarbouro shoal
[13:11]	techrights-bot	 NEWS #KrebsOnSecurity #FBI #WeLeakInfo Leaked Customer Payment Info https://krebsonsecurity.com/2021/03/weleakinfo-leaked-customer-payment-info/
[13:11]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-krebsonsecurity.com | WeLeakInfo Leaked Customer Payment Info Krebs on Security
[13:11]	techrights-bot	 NEWS #CreativeCommons Her Story: Transforming Open Through #Feminism https://creativecommons.org/2021/03/15/her-story-transforming-open-through-feminism/
[13:12]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-creativecommons.org | Her Story: Transforming Open Through Feminism - Creative Commons
[13:12]	vmg3	and the taipei treaty was a gift to china
[13:12]	schestowitz__	they won't go nuclear over it
[13:13]	schestowitz__	which shows that empires defeat the purpose of negitiations
[13:13]	schestowitz__	like crimea annexation"
[13:13]	schestowitz__	"whatchu gonna do bout it, PUNK?"
[13:13]	vmg3	big talk
[13:14]	vmg3	gn 
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[13:15]	vmg3	check vid out in the morning
[13:21]	schestowitz__	ty
[13:21]	schestowitz__	part 10 will be out in 20 ish mins
[13:59]	techrights-bot	#EPO and #Microsoft Collude to Break the #Law Part X: The Spectre of #GDPR http://techrights.org/2021/03/16/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-10/
[13:59]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law Part X: The Spectre of GDPR | Techrights
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[14:06]	techrights-bot	#Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148875 #Google #Linux #TuxMachines
[14:06]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
[14:06]	techrights-bot	#KDE Plasma 5.21.3 Is Out to Improve the New Plasma System Monitor App and Support for #GTK Apps http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148876 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[14:06]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Plasma 5.21.3 Is Out to Improve the New Plasma System Monitor App and Support for GTK Apps | Tux Machines
[14:09]	techrights-bot	The EPOs secrets (such as lies about privacy) will come out from beneath the cloud this month and next month Meme/Teaser: Lipstick on EPO in the Cloud http://techrights.org/2021/03/16/lipstick-on-epo/ #Techrights #epo #whistleblowers #privacy gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/16/lipstick-on-epo/
[14:09]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Meme/Teaser: Lipstick on EPO in the Cloud | Techrights
[14:10]	techrights-bot	#AntnioCampinos and his friends may have put the #EPO in legal hot water, having already outsourced EPO data to a serial #GDPR violator with a notorious track record in other aspects, too http://techrights.org/2021/03/16/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-10/ #Techrights #de #eu gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/16/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-10/
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[14:14]	techrights-bot	Multi Monitor and HiDPI Setup is Looking Better on #Ubuntu 21.04 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148877 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[14:14]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Multi Monitor and HiDPI Setup is Looking Better on Ubuntu 21.04 | Tux Machines
[14:20]	techrights-bot	 NEWS #MichaelGeist The Law Bytes Podcast, Episode 80: A Roundtable on the Canadian Challenges of Delivering Universal, Affordable #Internet Access https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2021/03/law-bytes-podcast-episode-80/
[14:20]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.michaelgeist.ca | The Law Bytes Podcast, Episode 80: A Roundtable on the Canadian Challenges of Delivering Universal, Affordable Internet Access - Michael Geist
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[15:00]	techrights-bot	#EPO Promoting Illegal #SoftwarePatents Under the Guise of NET/Hey Hi http://techrights.org/2021/03/16/software-patents-guise-ai/ #Techrights #swpats gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/16/software-patents-guise-ai/
[15:00]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO Promoting Illegal Software Patents Under the Guise of NET/Hey Hi | Techrights
[15:03]	XRevan86	https://meduza.io/en/news/2021/03/16/russian-lawmakers-adopt-amendments-requiring-official-permission-for-educational-activities
[15:03]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE
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[15:12]	schestowitz__	hmmm
[15:12]	schestowitz__	was going to see this tomorrow in Kate editor
[15:14]	techrights-bot	 NEWS #CounterPunch #Cuba Working on a 'Peoples Vaccine: the US and the world should get behind it https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/03/15/cuba-working-on-a-peoples-vaccine-the-us-and-the-world-should-get-behind-it/ #twitter BANS people for suggesting it http://techrights.org/2021/02/05/twitter-censorship-bingo/
[15:14]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cuba Working on a 'Peoples Vaccine: the US and the world should get behind it - CounterPunch.org
[15:14]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Twitter Has Just Suspended the President of FFII for Naming Bill Gates Patent Profiteering and Factual Information About Twitter Censorship (Updated) | Techrights
[15:27]	techrights-bot	#System76s AMD-Only Pangolin Linux Laptop Is Finally Here http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148878 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[15:27]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | System76s AMD-Only Pangolin Linux Laptop Is Finally Here | Tux Machines
[15:32]	techrights-bot	Why We Dont Expect the Media or Patent News Sites to Cover or Even Just Mention #EPO Data Scandals http://techrights.org/2021/03/16/epo-data-scandals-and-the-media/ #europe #corruption #patents #bribery
[15:32]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Why We Dont Expect the Media or Patent News Sites to Cover or Even Just Mention EPO Data Scandals | Techrights
[15:35]	techrights-bot	Soon half a million views on our wiki page regarding #swpats in #europe http://techrights.org/wiki/Software_Patents_in_Europe#2021
[15:35]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Software Patents in Europe - Techrights
[15:38]	MinceR	https://hugelolcdn.com/i/733969.jpg
[15:38]	techrights-bot	Today in #Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148879 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[15:38]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
[15:41]	techrights-bot	More shameless promotion of illegal #softwarepatents under the guise of emerging technologies (NET) and artificial intelligence (AI); when will there be a mass revocation of them all? When judges at the #EPO finally regain their independence? http://techrights.org/2021/03/16/software-patents-guise-ai/ #Techrights gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/16
[15:42]	techrights-bot	The #EPO #corruption of the media (or subversion of #journalism ) is an ongoing and unresolved problem; theyve meanwhile proceeded to also #bribing scholars, so critics are rare and barely visible http://techrights.org/2021/03/16/epo-data-scandals-and-the-media/ #Techrights gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/16/epo-data-scandals-and-the-media/
[15:43]	techrights-bot	#epo continues breaking the #law using #pandemic as pretext https://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/03/board-of-appeal-in-t180715-continues.html?showComment=1615898725785 see http://techrights.org/2020/11/14/epo-invalid-practices/
[15:43]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | BREAKING: Board of Appeal in T1807/15 continues with ViCo oral proceedings referral - The IPKat
[15:43]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Inside the EPO During Corona: The EPO Recklessly Breaking the Law With Videoconference (ViCo) for European Patents | Techrights
[15:44]	techrights-bot	"Should the President of the BoA self-recuse: Who selects the actual members of the EBoA handling the referral? The business distribution scheme seems to be "flexible enough" to select the actual members according to the desired outcome of the referral..." http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/03/board-of-appeal-in-t180715-continues.html?showComment=1615898725785#c4538606054064008817
[15:45]	DaemonFC[m]	At least cancel culture has made DRM permanently irrelevant.
[15:45]	techrights-bot	OLDER: Inside the #EPO During Corona: Cameras and Microphones in EPO Peoples Private Homes Have Been Broadly Welcomed by the Patent Profession (the Law and EPO Staff Dont Count) http://techrights.org/2020/11/11/inside-the-epo-during-corona-cameras-and-microphones-in-epo-peoples-private-homes-have-been-broadly-welcomed-by-the-patent-profession-the-law-and-epo-staff-dont-count/
[15:46]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Inside the EPO During Corona: Cameras and Microphones in EPO Peoples Private Homes Have Been Broadly Welcomed by the Patent Profession (the Law and EPO Staff Dont Count) | Techrights
[15:46]	MinceR	DaemonFC[m]: how?
[15:46]	DaemonFC[m]	Since there's nothing you can do that's funny anymore, since someone will complain, most of the good stuff was already on tapes.
[15:46]	DaemonFC[m]	Certainly on DVD.
[15:47]	techrights-bot	"The second question is why has the #EPO still not provided any indication of the CONTENT of the various submissions to the EPO in connection with the consultation on Art 15a RPBA?" http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/03/board-of-appeal-in-t180715-continues.html?showComment=1615895762309#c4915828359174384157 see http://techrights.org/2020/11/14/epo-invalid-practices/
[15:47]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | BREAKING: Board of Appeal in T1807/15 continues with ViCo oral proceedings referral - The IPKat
[15:47]	MinceR	:>
[15:47]	MinceR	DVD has DRM, though
[15:48]	DaemonFC[m]	Disney is slapping a disclaimer on The Muppets over an episode with Johnny Cash while mjg59 people are outright censoring anything new before you even get to see it.
[15:48]	techrights-bot	#EPO has managed to even corrupt large publishers like DW, in order for them to print EPO puff pieces instead of news https://www.dw.com/en/health-care-innovations-drive-patent-applications-in-europe/a-56881353 see http://techrights.org/2021/03/16/epo-data-scandals-and-the-media/
[15:48]	DaemonFC[m]	In fact, it's racist to complain about modern "culture" being Cardio B singing Wet-Ass Pussy.
[15:48]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Health care innovations drive patent applications in Europe | Business| Economy and finance news from a German perspective | DW | 16.03.2021
[15:48]	MinceR	lol
[15:49]	MinceR	wet ass-pussy
[15:49]	DaemonFC[m]	I guess they'll have to earn about Stargate Atlantis being wrong and offensive.
[15:49]	DaemonFC[m]	One episode used a Johnny Cash song.
[15:49]	DaemonFC[m]	*learn
[15:50]	techrights-bot	"Stephan Kinsella is back for more about Hoppe and who will succeed him in the world of Austrian economics, plus a Q&A." https://www.stephankinsella.com/paf-podcast/kol325-nate-the-voluntaryist-livestream-202-hoppe-austrian-economics-and-more/
[15:50]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.stephankinsella.com | KOL325 | Nate the Voluntaryist Livestream #202: Hoppe, Austrian Economics, and More
[15:50]	DaemonFC[m]	Also, it negatively portrayed the Wraith. Which are fictional, but it's a microaggression against someone.
[15:51]	DaemonFC[m]	It's nice to see people parked in the Health Department lot smoking marijuana in their car and blasting the stereo.
[15:51]	techrights-bot	The #internet and esp. the #www is under a major attack, bolstered by #microsoft which envies other #monopolies http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/03/linking-after-vg-bild-kunst-in-table.html
[15:51]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Linking after VG Bild-Kunst ... in a table - The IPKat
[15:52]	DaemonFC[m]	A restaurant being open is a public nuisance though.
[15:53]	schestowitz__	DRM is still around
[15:53]	schestowitz__	some of it perished
[15:53]	schestowitz__	esp. music DRM
[15:53]	schestowitz__	it's still abundant in movies, web, games..
[15:54]	MinceR	even microshit's DRM chip (which mjg59 is a big fan of) is around in many PC-s
[15:54]	techrights-bot	"To the Open Source Hardware (OSHW) community, the Federal Circuits October opinion in the ongoing appeal of GlaxoSmithKline LLC v. Teva (GSK), No. 2018-1976 (Fed. Cir.) was a wolf in wolfs clothing. Some language in the panel majoritys opinion suggested an expansion of induced infringement liability to transform mere statements of equivalence made on promotional materials into triggers for liability." 
[15:55]	techrights-bot	#twitter works for the oppressors, who make #sharing illegal and push #patent #monopolies http://techrights.org/2021/02/05/twitter-censorship-bingo/
[15:55]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Twitter Has Just Suspended the President of FFII for Naming Bill Gates Patent Profiteering and Factual Information About Twitter Censorship (Updated) | Techrights
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[15:56]	techrights-bot	Did someone try to break into the home of Michael Meeks (GNOME/Collabora/LibreOffice)? http://www.gnome.org/~michael/blog/2021-03-15.html
[15:56]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-people.gnome.org | Stuff Michael Meeks is doing
[15:58]	techrights-bot	#Gaming on GNU #Linux with #EpicGames just Leveled Up with this Launcher! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MadU5CX-jPA
[15:58]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Heroic Game Launcher - YouTube
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[16:01]	techrights-bot	Arthurian legends mix with cosmic horror in The Hand of Merlin, confirmed for Linux | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/03/arthurian-legends-mix-with-cosmic-horror-in-the-hand-of-merlin-confirmed-for-linux #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games #Gaming
[16:01]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Arthurian legends mix with cosmic horror in The Hand of Merlin, confirmed for Linux | GamingOnLinux
[16:01]	techrights-bot	Excellent option for those who only touch #games if they're #freesw https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/03/rollercoaster-tycoon-2-reimplementation-openrct2-expands-in-v033 #OpenRCT2
[16:01]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-RollerCoaster Tycoon 2 reimplementation OpenRCT2 expands in v0.3.3 | GamingOnLinux
[16:02]	MinceR	(cat) (no audio) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2021/02/21/bd880a901c4c7952.mp4
[16:02]	techrights-bot	#FunKey S is a tiny Linux-powered retro-gaming handheld http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148880 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[16:02]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FunKey S is a tiny Linux-powered retro-gaming handheld | Tux Machines
[16:07]	techrights-bot	#HowTo write 'Hello World' in #WebAssembly | https://opensource.com/article/21/3/hello-world-webassembly #FreeSW #RedHat #IBM
[16:07]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to write 'Hello World' in WebAssembly | Opensource.com
[16:09]	techrights-bot	The stupidity of browsers and UX cult impact, turning them into a bundle of garbage with settings as a tab (and #mozilla copied its paymasters at #google among other things...) https://www.maketecheasier.com/what-does-aboutblank-mean/
[16:09]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | What Does about:blank Mean (and Why Does It Matter)? - Make Tech Easier
[16:10]	techrights-bot	The #ibm #redhat we want: explaining to people how to dump #microsoft The Red Hat we have: Microsoft #openwashing https://developers.redhat.com/blog/2021/03/16/three-ways-to-containerize-net-applications-on-red-hat-openshift/
[16:10]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developers.redhat.com | Three ways to containerize .NET applications on Red Hat OpenShift - Red Hat Developer
[16:10]	techrights-bot	#Games : Heroic Game Launcher, Lucy Dreaming, Valheim, Arthurian, RollerCoaster Tycoon 2 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148881 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #Gaming
[16:10]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Heroic Game Launcher, Lucy Dreaming, Valheim, Arthurian, RollerCoaster Tycoon 2 | Tux Machines
[16:12]	techrights-bot	Use gdu for a Faster Disk Usage Checking in Linux Terminal https://itsfoss.com/gdu/ Not good advice, replacing #gnu #freesw with some #microsoft #github crap. #ProprietarySoftware
[16:12]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-itsfoss.com | Use gdu for a Faster Disk Usage Checking in Linux Terminal - It's FOSS
[16:13]	techrights-bot	Each time you put a project in #github you help #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware #monopoly agenda http://techrights.org/2020/06/15/confessions-of-scott-guthrie/ #deletegithub
[16:13]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Story About Microsofts Plan for GitHub Says a Lot About the Motivations and the Lies Told to Us for Over Half a Decade | Techrights
[16:14]	schestowitz__	MinceR: yup
[16:15]	techrights-bot	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148882 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[16:15]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines
[16:17]	techrights-bot	#SoftwarePatents or #swpats squashed for money. #ptab #uspto #fakepatents https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/3/16/2000-for-trinity-info-media-prior-art
[16:17]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | $2,000 for Trinity Info Media prior art Unified Patents
[16:18]	techrights-bot	"Are you referring to Art 2(2) RPEBA ("The Chairman of the Enlarged Board of Appeal shall determine the composition of the Board for each particular case in accordance with the business distribution scheme")?" http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/03/board-of-appeal-in-t180715-continues.html?showComment=1615903771898#c371667073855893646 ILLEGAL composition a la http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/03/board-of-appeal-in-t1807
[16:18]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | BREAKING: Board of Appeal in T1807/15 continues with ViCo oral proceedings referral - The IPKat
[16:18]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/03/board-of-appeal-in-t18071 )
[16:19]	techrights-bot	#ibm #propaganda site (and other #patent aggressors') uses "WOMEN" and "COVID" to enhance their lies and propaganda https://www.managingip.com/article/b1qzr34wdwprmq/podcast-women-in-ip-delve-into-covid-19-career-challenges Racist IBM = #sexism http://techrights.org/2020/09/30/ibm-and-sexual-abuse-of-women/
[16:19]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Podcast: Women in IP delve into COVID-19 career challenges | Managing Intellectual Property
[16:19]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Access Watson Tapes: Rare Richard Nixon Tape on Former IBM President and Son of IBMs Founder Engaging in Sexual Abuse of Women | Techrights
[16:20]	techrights-bot	From private to public, in the #patent "sector" https://www.managingip.com/article/b1qzpr76rvvr8z/mr-justice-mellor-i-never-had-a-great-desire-to-leave-the-bar
[16:20]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Mr Justice Mellor: I never had a great desire to leave the bar | Managing Intellectual Property
[16:21]	techrights-bot	It is not hard to see how the #EPO 'buys' (bribes) the media for self-serving puff pieces https://www.shine.cn/biz/finance/2103166037/ see http://techrights.org/2021/03/16/epo-data-scandals-and-the-media/
[16:21]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.shine.cn | China files more European patent applications despite pandemic - SHINE News
[16:21]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Why We Dont Expect the Media or Patent News Sites to Cover or Even Just Mention EPO Data Scandals | Techrights
[16:23]	techrights-bot	The real news is, Europeans are divesting and moving away from the #EPO . It's foreign companies that take over. http://techrights.org/2021/03/16/software-patents-guise-ai/
[16:23]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO Promoting Illegal Software Patents Under the Guise of NET/Hey Hi | Techrights
[16:23]	MinceR	(audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzVN9kIUNxw
[16:23]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-DOOM on NES! - YouTube
[16:25]	techrights-bot	#fossasia showing us a little glimpse at work on #libreoffice at #collabora http://www.gnome.org/~michael/blog
[16:25]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-people.gnome.org | Stuff Michael Meeks is doing
[16:26]	techrights-bot	b
[16:26]	techrights-bot	TOGGLE NAVIGATION 15 Quick Git Commands with Examples in Linux Aayush KoiralaMarch 16, 2021 Git is an open-source distributed version control system and its free to use under GNU General Public License Version 2. In todays context, everyone in software development uses it from small to very large projects because it keeps track of our source code history which adds more flexibility to projects. Its usually us
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[16:27]	techrights-bot	<u>Tuesday, March
[16:28]	schestowitz__	15 Quick Git Commands with Examples in Linux https://www.linuxbuzz.com/git-command-examples-linux/ #gnu #linux #git #freesw #programming
[16:28]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxbuzz.com | 15 Quick Git Commands with Examples in Linux
[16:29]	techrights-bot	#DOOM on NES! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzVN9kIUNxw
[16:29]	schestowitz__	MinceR: can't believe NES had THAT little RAM
[16:29]	schestowitz__	or that DOOM ran ok on so little RAM
[16:29]	MinceR	:)
[16:30]	schestowitz__	let me check how much an empty firefox tab takes up :-)
[16:30]	MinceR	this particular cartridge uses the NES as little more than a graphics/gamepad adapter and music player though
[16:30]	MinceR	DOOM itself runs on the raspberry pi in the cartridge :>
[16:30]	MinceR	even the DOOM SNES port was famous for working at all, even in that stripped down form
[16:31]	schestowitz__	Microsoft in a cartridge
[16:31]	schestowitz__	tuck
[16:31]	schestowitz__	tucked in
[16:31]	schestowitz__	yuck
[16:31]	MinceR	afaik consoles still have little RAM, compared to real computers
[16:31]	MinceR	and for a very long time, all official DOOM ports to consoles were stripped down
[16:31]	MinceR	maps were simplified, parts of them were removed, some maps and monsters were removed entirely
[16:32]	techrights-bot	TONS more #epo coverage to come later this month and next month. Corrupt officials are losing their minds over this; they don't know how to stop it. http://techrights.org/wiki/EPO#March
[16:32]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO - Techrights
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[16:33]	schestowitz__	LOL. Idiocy: https://speedysense.com/why-swift-ios-development-skill-only-you-need/
[16:33]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-speedysense.com | Why Swift iOS Development is The Only Skill You Really Need
[16:33]	schestowitz__	yes, worshiping Jesus Christ
[16:33]	schestowitz__	all you need
[16:33]	schestowitz__	it'll even bring you fish
[16:33]	MinceR	lol
[16:34]	schestowitz__	maybe the move to another chipset will doom Swift
[16:34]	schestowitz__	and then the new "SHINY" 'framework' will doom your so-called 'career
[16:34]	schestowitz__	tbh
[16:34]	MinceR	or the next fad language
[16:34]	schestowitz__	speaking for myself...
[16:34]	schestowitz__	I use lots of bash
[16:34]	schestowitz__	it hardly changes
[16:34]	schestowitz__	no frameworks
[16:34]	schestowitz__	it just works
[16:34]	schestowitz__	systemd interfere with some system calls
[16:34]	schestowitz__	or system-level stuff
[16:34]	schestowitz__	but that's usually fixable or can be worked around
[16:35]	schestowitz__	also, IRC has been mostly the same
[16:35]	MinceR	"Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life." -- Terry Pratchett, Jingo
[16:35]	schestowitz__	I can still use xchat from 20 years ago and the protocols would be compatible
[16:35]	schestowitz__	MinceR: kindle this man!!
[16:35]	schestowitz__	with DRM
[16:35]	schestowitz__	will last a lifetime... of one device :-)
[16:35]	MinceR	too late, he's dead :(
[16:38]	techrights-bot	Both are bad. Both spy on you. Why can't anyone in "the media" promote #e2ee stuff? https://www.maketecheasier.com/telegram-vs-whatsapp/
[16:38]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | Everything Telegram Has That WhatsApp Doesn't
[16:38]	schestowitz__	MinceR: Jim?
[16:38]	MinceR	Terry
[16:38]	techrights-ipfs	   IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 15.36   IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 80.63 swarm size (avg): 142.88  
[16:40]	techrights-bot	While #gnu #linux admins are busy doing real work the #windows 'admins' [sic] are busy putting out fires... or trying to. #microsoft
[16:40]	techrights-bot	The Real Blunder is Up-to-date Exchange Systems Being or Getting Compromised for Two Months (While #Microsoft Knew About That), Not Anything Linux http://techrights.org/2021/03/13/changing-the-topic/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/13/changing-the-topic/
[16:40]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Real Blunder is Up-to-date Exchange Systems Being or Getting Compromised for Two Months (While Microsoft Knew About That), Not Anything Linux | Techrights
[16:41]	schestowitz__	MinceR: I was making a little joke about "it's dead, Jim..."
[16:43]	techrights-bot	LibreELEC 10 BETA 1 Released, Bringing #Kodi 19 To #LibreELEC Users http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148856#comment-28654 #gnu #linux
[16:43]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LibreELEC (Matrix) 10.0 BETA1 | Tux Machines
[16:44]	techrights-bot	Everybody should get fired for buying #microsoft https://www.theverge.com/2021/3/15/22332539/microsoft-teams-down-outage-connectivity-issues
[16:45]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Microsoft Teams, Exchange and more went down for four hours on Monday - The Verge
[16:45]	MinceR	schestowitz__: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pid5joubrPo
[16:45]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Doom's SNES Port is Amazing - Port Patrol - YouTube
[16:45]	MinceR	wow, actually this one was based on the original maps, not the jaguar versions
[16:45]	MinceR	still has severe limitations though :>
[16:46]	techrights-bot	#Microsoft is being rewarded again for its #crimes https://www.techradar.com/news/microsoft-could-be-set-for-a-us-government-windfall taxpayers subsiding criminals against their will http://techrights.org/2020/08/18/microsoft-graft/
[16:46]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft could be set for a US government windfall | TechRadar
[16:46]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | With Help From Donald Trump, Microsoft is Plundering and Looting the American Taxpayers, Then Gloating About It | Techrights
[16:49]	techrights-bot	#qt is #ProprietarySoftware now so using or studying #qml seems misguided and prone to regret https://www.linuxlinks.com/excellent-free-tutorials-learn-qml/
[16:49]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Excellent Free Tutorials to Learn QML - LinuxLinks
[16:50]	techrights-bot	#microsoft #spyware included with this. PASS. http://linuxgizmos.com/raspberry-pi-cm4-based-mini-pc-offers-m-2-dual-gbe/ #raspi working for Microsoft now. http://techrights.org/2021/03/15/microsoft-spy/
[16:50]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Raspberry Pi CM4 based mini-PC offers M.2, dual GbE
[16:50]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | More Than a Month Later Raspberry Pi Foundation is a Microsoft Censor | Techrights
[16:52]	techrights-bot	#IMF warns against Pentagon-connected and taxpayers-subsidised technology monopolists https://blogs.imf.org/2021/03/15/rising-market-power-a-threat-to-the-recovery/
[16:52]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.imf.org | Rising Market PowerA Threat to the Recovery? IMF Blog
[16:53]	techrights-bot	Get started with [buzzword] computing by #programming embedded systems | https://opensource.com/article/21/3/rtos-embedded-development #FreeSW #RedHat #IBM
[16:53]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Get started with edge computing by programming embedded systems | Opensource.com
[16:54]	techrights-bot	#QtCreator 4.15 Beta released https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-creator-4.15-beta-released #qt is only ever releasing #ProprietarySoftware now and #kde will need to fork
[16:54]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.qt.io | Qt Creator 4.15 Beta released
[16:55]	techrights-bot	These machines will 'phone home' to #microsoft and give Microsoft root-level access. Avoid #raspberryPi https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/03/16/onlogic-industrial-raspberry-pi-cm4-based-mini-pc-to-offer-dual-gbe/ see http://techrights.org/2021/03/15/microsoft-spy/
[16:55]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Onlogic industrial Raspberry Pi CM4 based mini PC to offer dual GbE, USB 3.1, M.2 SATA socket
[16:57]	techrights-bot	Sparkfun Thing Plus - Quicklogic EOS S3 Arm eFPGA board launched in Crowd Supply https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/03/16/sparkfun-thing-plus-quicklogic-eos-s3-arm-efpga-board-launched-in-crowd-supply/ #Linux #GNU #Hardware #cnxsoftware
[16:57]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Sparkfun Thing Plus - Quicklogic EOS S3 Arm eFPGA board launched in Crowd Supply
[16:58]	Old_Man	No, that's wrong: it's not the machines that phone home; it's just one operating system from one vendor. Fortunately there are many operating systems that run on that.
[16:58]	MinceR	+
[16:59]	MinceR	schestowitz__: more technical video on the SNES port >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqP3ZzWiul0
[16:59]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A closer look at the Super NES DOOM Source Code Release | MVG - YouTube
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[17:00]	schestowitz__	Old_Man: hence we urge people to replace it
[17:00]	schestowitz__	the OS
[17:00]	schestowitz__	or the devices that comes with the OS
[17:00]	schestowitz__	*device
[17:00]	Old_Man	schestowitz__, none I've ordered have ever come with an OS.
[17:00]	schestowitz__	there are already forks in progress, I've heard
[17:01]	Old_Man	schestowitz__, may I suggest being a more careful guardian of your credibility, by not posting things that are blatantly false.
[17:01]	schestowitz__	Old_Man: some are bundled
[17:01]	Old_Man	Is that one, to which you linked?
[17:01]	schestowitz__	Old_Man: the official OS of RPF has that
[17:01]	Old_Man	I ask again: is that one, to which you linked?
[17:01]	MinceR	there are kits that come with a [micro]SD card with the OS on them
[17:01]	Old_Man	I ask again: is that one, to which schestowitz__ linked?
[17:02]	MinceR	i never ordered those, though, as they cost more than the parts i actually needed
[17:02]	schestowitz__	https://raspbian.io/
[17:02]	schestowitz__	"
[17:02]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Raspbian.io: A Copper GNU LUG project Raspbian Community Site
[17:02]	Old_Man	Again I will suggest being a more careful guardian of your credibility, by not posting things that are blatantly false.
[17:02]	schestowitz__	Raspbian Community - 03/14/2021 Pi images. 
[17:02]	schestowitz__	Free From Windows  
[17:02]	schestowitz__	AIoT demo(s) included 
[17:02]	schestowitz__	Get Started with AIoT
[17:02]	schestowitz__	http://techrights.org/2021/02/02/microsoft-pi/
[17:02]	schestowitz__	"
[17:02]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Raspberry Pi (at Least Raspbian GNU/Linux and/or Raspberry Pi Foundation) Appears to Have Been Infiltrated by Microsoft and There Are Severe Consequences | Techrights
[17:03]	techrights-bot	#RasPi Foundation alienated its own suppliers: "Raspbian Community - 03/14/2021 Pi images. Free From Windows AIoT demo(s) included Get Started with AIoT http://techrights.org/2021/02/02/microsoft-pi/ " From https://raspbian.io/
[17:03]	schestowitz__	they seem to be sort of forking it
[17:03]	schestowitz__	RaspberryPi OS
[17:03]	schestowitz__	the OFFICIAL OS
[17:03]	schestowitz__	de facto
[17:03]	schestowitz__	it's still bad an OS
[17:03]	schestowitz__	they never tackled the issue
[17:03]	schestowitz__	so people need warning
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[17:04]	schestowitz__	and when you buy any device like that you give them money
[17:04]	Old_Man	Is lying to them an effective warning, do you believe?
[17:04]	schestowitz__	money which they then use to push  Microsoft
[17:04]	schestowitz__	RPF is compromised
[17:04]	schestowitz__	and you pay them when you buy any of these SBCs
[17:04]	schestowitz__	they never showed regret
[17:04]	schestowitz__	no remorse, just more censorship
[17:04]	schestowitz__	so it's a problem
[17:04]	Old_Man	I guess my questions are too hard... no one seems to be able to answer them.
[17:06]	Old_Man	Here's a question that one might answer with a simple web search: what year was Aesop's fable of "The Boy who Cried Wolf" written?
[17:06]	psychicist	and what about the closed firmware shipped with them?
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[17:06]	psychicist	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ThreadX#Products_using_it
[17:06]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | ThreadX - Wikipedia
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[17:06]	DaemonFC[m]	It's possible that someone could improve the SNES Doom engine and then pull the game assets off a cartridge or make new ones.
[17:06]	schestowitz__	Old_Man: I waited over a month
[17:07]	DaemonFC[m]	It seemed like Doom was pushing it though even with the SuperFX 2 add-on chip.
[17:07]	schestowitz__	and they are not stopping their betrayal
[17:07]	schestowitz__	rather doubling down on Microsoft..
[17:07]	schestowitz__	It's called "TRUST"
[17:07]	techrights-bot	#Monopolies , #ProprietarySoftware , and #Microsoft #Security /Downtime http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148883
[17:07]	DaemonFC[m]	Much of the cuts were due to cartridge storage space, however.
[17:07]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Monopolies, Proprietary Software, and Microsoft Security/Downtime | Tux Machines
[17:07]	Old_Man	Do you gain trust, or do you lose trust, by propagating pure falsehoods?
[17:08]	Old_Man	Looks like Aesop is estimated to have lived between 620-564 BCE.
[17:09]	Old_Man	That's a long time for the story of "The Boy who Cried Wolf" to become a cultural icon, and a lesson for many, many generations.
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[17:10]	techrights-bot	#mozilla still not tackling the fact that it outsourced #surveillance code for #firefox to #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware prison/PRISM https://blog.mozilla.org/data/2021/03/16/this-week-in-glean-reducing-release-friction/
[17:10]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | This Week in Glean: Reducing Release Friction Data@Mozilla
[17:10]	techrights-bot	" #Mozilla developers often need to juggle multiple build configurations in their day to day work." https://ahal.ca/blog/2021/managing-multiple-mozconfigs/
[17:10]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ahal.ca | Managing Multiple Mozconfigs | Hunting the Shmoo
[17:11]	techrights-bot	" #Mozilla is a distributed community with a lot of different cultures (social, country, education, beliefs) and across all timezones. At Flickr, Heather Champ had a good reminder for the community: "Don't be a creep."" https://www.otsukare.info/2021/03/16/working-tips-remote-team
[17:11]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.otsukare.info | Working With A Remote Distributed Team (Mozilla Edition) - otsukare
[17:12]	Old_Man	Okay, here's another question about which someone may be able to slake my curiosity: under what license is qt distributed by its authors?
[17:13]	techrights-bot	" #Bitwarden is one of the best password managers available for Linux. Not just that, it is also free and open-source." https://news.itsfoss.com/bitwarden-send/ #deletegithub #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware
[17:13]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.itsfoss.com | Bitwarden Send is a Secure Way to Share Information and Documents [Replacement of Firefox Send] - It's FOSS News
[17:15]	techrights-bot	#Devices #Hardware : Raspberry Pi, UP Squared SBC, and Sparkfun http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148884 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[17:15]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Devices: Raspberry Pi, UP Squared SBC, and Sparkfun | Tux Machines
[17:17]	techrights-bot	" #Fedora Workstation 34 is scheduled for release towards the end of April" https://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-34-feature-focus-updated-activities-overview/
[17:17]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoramagazine.org | Fedora 34 Feature Focus: Updated Activities Overview - Fedora Magazine
[17:19]	techrights-bot	Technology preview: Running a container inside a container | Enable Sysadmin https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/container-inside-container #RedHat #IBM increasing #GNU #Linux complexity. The solution to their "need to sell support" problem?
[17:19]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Technology preview: Running a container inside a container | Enable Sysadmin
[17:22]	MinceR	https://xkcd.com/2372/
[17:22]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Dialect Quiz
[17:22]	techrights-bot	#epo #propaganda in the #watchtroll site today, pushing #swpats and it's Andrea Perronace, as usual ("Patenting Simulations at the EPO: Decision G1/19 and Its Consequences for Computer-Implemented Inventions"). See explanation in http://techrights.org/2021/03/10/unlawful-exploitation/ and http://techrights.org/2021/03/14/simulation-swpats-video/
[17:22]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO Does the Unlawful While Leveraging Womens Rights as an Opportunistic Form of Disguise | Techrights
[17:22]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The German Constitutional Court Needs to Recognise That the EPOs Tribunals Are Not Independent and EPC Has Not or Isnt Being Honoured for Quite Some Time Now | Techrights
[17:23]	techrights-bot	More puff pieces from media in the EPO's pockets, saying nothing about #corruption , 100% PR https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/legal-commentary/epo-patent-index-shows-medical-innovation-driving-patent-applications/ see http://techrights.org/2021/03/16/epo-data-scandals-and-the-media/ and http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Juve
[17:23]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.juve-patent.com | EPO Patent Index shows medical innovation driving patent applications - JUVE Patent
[17:23]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Why We Dont Expect the Media or Patent News Sites to Cover or Even Just Mention EPO Data Scandals | Techrights
[17:23]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Juve - Techrights
[17:27]	schestowitz__	Old_Man: check out what they do
[17:28]	schestowitz__	spoiler: it's problematic :0)
[17:28]	schestowitz__	as for raspi, the raspbian devs were extremely thankful to techrights
[17:28]	Old_Man	What who does?
[17:29]	Old_Man	I'm discovering that it's very, very difficult to get a straight answer to questions about basic tech rights in here.
[17:29]	schestowitz__	what RPF did it extremely problematic
[17:29]	schestowitz__	also to debian
[17:29]	schestowitz__	that devs can run postinst script to give Microsofr root
[17:29]	schestowitz__	damage to trust
[17:29]	Old_Man	11:07 < Old_Man> Do you gain trust, or do you lose trust, by propagating pure falsehoods?
[17:31]	DVulgaris	So, I should still stick to raspbian?
[17:31]	techrights-bot	Links 16/3/2021: #KDE Plasma 5.21.3 and #LibreELEC 10 Beta http://techrights.org/2021/03/16/libreelec-10-beta/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/16/libreelec-10-beta/
[17:31]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 16/3/2021: KDE Plasma 5.21.3 and LibreELEC 10 Beta | Techrights
[17:32]	DVulgaris	I mean, I have my pi 0 on the side now, but I was considering putting Arch Linux ARM on it - or maybe even parabola
[17:32]	DVulgaris	I'd probably set it up as a nice little media center
[17:32]	Old_Man	I haven't seen any evidence at all that raspbian comes with the OnLogic mini-PC.
[17:32]	techrights-bot	#Mozilla : Release Friction, Managing Multiple Mozconfigs, Distributed Teams, and "Replacement of #Firefox Send" http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148885 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[17:32]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla: Release Friction, Managing Multiple Mozconfigs, Distributed Teams, and "Replacement of Firefox Send" | Tux Machines
[17:32]	Old_Man	So I don't think you *can* "stick" with anything. You have to make a conscious decision, either way.
[17:33]	techrights-bot	#Fedora Release and Red Hat Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148886 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[17:33]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora Release and Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines
[17:33]	techrights-bot	#Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148887 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[17:33]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
[17:35]	schestowitz__	Old_Man: does it come with no OS? Either way, it gives money to a firm that pushes Microsoft OS
[17:35]	schestowitz__	and that harms us in several ways
[17:35]	schestowitz__	they need to withdraw that proprietary software
[17:35]	schestowitz__	as many people will use no OS other than that
[17:36]	schestowitz__	because they're lazy or don't know what else to do
[17:36]	schestowitz__	like schools
[17:36]	schestowitz__	they use a Debian with Microsoft root access, in effect
[17:36]	Old_Man	Yes, everything that you do "gives money to a firm that pushes Microsoft OS." Just buying food at a supermarket means someone somewhere within that supermarket is probably running Microsoft Office. But that wasn't the claim with which you captioned that link.
[17:37]	schestowitz__	that's not an analogy that is fair
[17:37]	schestowitz__	for several reason
[17:37]	schestowitz__	the supermarket does not sell Microsoft products
[17:37]	Old_Man	So I asked about that specific claim, and then noted with great interest that you have now dodged my simple question for over half an hour.
[17:37]	schestowitz__	but merely uses it
[17:37]	schestowitz__	your analogy is more like, if staff at RPF used Microsoft Office
[17:37]	schestowitz__	not the same
[17:38]	schestowitz__	Old_Man: so it does not come with it PRE-installed
[17:38]	Old_Man	Then, you will probably want to avoid making false claims like that in the future.
[17:38]	Old_Man	Do you know why it behooves you to avoid making such false claims?
[17:38]	schestowitz__	about that I was wrong and would take back
[17:38]	schestowitz__	but I always say, don't support raspi-based products
[17:38]	Old_Man	Well thank you. That helps to restore your credibility, and I appreciate that. :)
[17:38]	MinceR	the ones that have an eMMC built in might, but i've never had those so i don't know
[17:38]		*Old_Man buys schestowitz__ a beer
[17:38]	schestowitz__	because divesting temporarily would put pressure on RPF to correct
[17:38]	schestowitz__	if they can
[17:39]	schestowitz__	I gave them a month
[17:39]	schestowitz__	and days ago they still censored polite queries
[17:39]	schestowitz__	so you know they signed some oddball deal with Microsoft
[17:40]	Old_Man	If they ever take any action to prevent other OSs running on RPis, I will *definitely* want to read about that on your web/gemini sites.
[17:40]	Old_Man	But you will need to have your credibility intact, if that ever happens, to be sure you can be believed.
[17:40]	Old_Man	In the meantime, I continue to buy RPi hardware (with no OS installed) and Dell hardware too.
[17:41]	schestowitz__	i have a pi with rpi os
[17:41]	Old_Man	In fact the only time I've bought Pis in kits, the MicroSD card had "NOOBS" or something installed on it, so I could choose an OS.
[17:42]	Old_Man	But it did not include my distro of choice, so I overwrote NOOBS too. :)
[17:42]	Old_Man	I have a lot of pis, but exactly 0 of them are running RPi OS.
[17:43]	schestowitz__	very good
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[17:43]	schestowitz__	people have the hw
[17:43]	schestowitz__	maybe 50 million pieces worldwide
[17:43]	schestowitz__	we can convince them to try another OS
[17:44]	schestowitz__	like the forks
[17:44]	MinceR	https://xkcd.com/2381/
[17:44]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: The True Name of the Bear
[17:44]	schestowitz__	reduces the value of the Microsoft deal anyway...
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[17:48]	schestowitz__	btw
[17:48]	schestowitz__	root for microsoft
[17:48]	schestowitz__	whose own network got cracked
[17:48]	schestowitz__	let that sink in
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[17:50]	mjg59	Running kernels hosted on kernel.org, which also got cracked
[17:51]	schestowitz__	me does not get kernels from kernel.org
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[18:04]	mjg59	You get them from somewhere that gets them from kernel.org, and does not review every line of the changes
[18:06]	MinceR	better switch to OpenBSD
[18:07]	MinceR	(cat) https://full.pr0gramm.com/2021/02/21/e75f459af126ee90.jpg
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[18:19]	DaemonFC[m]	https://gizmodo.com/nokia-cutting-10-000-jobs-while-planning-to-double-down-1846485477/amp
[18:19]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gizmodo.com | Nokia Cutting 10,000 Jobs While Planning to Double Down on 5G
[18:19]	DaemonFC[m]	schestowitz 10,000 job cuts at Nokia.
[18:27]	schestowitz__	no surprise...
[18:28]	schestowitz__	http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Nokia
[18:28]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Nokia - Techrights
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[18:40]	MinceR	(audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrU9YDoXE88
[18:40]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How To Count Past Infinity - YouTube
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[19:04]	MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/14012851
[19:04]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (26907)
[19:24]	MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/14012844
[19:24]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (26976)
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[20:20]	DaemonFC[m]	https://www.thelayoff.com/wal-mart-stores
[20:20]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Walmart Layoffs - TheLayoff.com
[20:20]	DaemonFC[m]	They pulled so many people off of shelf stocking to do order picking that they have outs all the time.
[20:21]	DaemonFC[m]	Nobody at the local store rotates stock so I'm always pulling rotting food off the shelf and handing it to an employee.
[20:21]	DaemonFC[m]	Some chicken that gets set out doesn't even have expiration dates on it and then when the package starts bloating they stick a markdown tag on it.
[20:22]	DaemonFC[m]	It's pretty gross, really.
[20:23]	DaemonFC[m]	Every time I grab something perishable, I check dates on it to make sure I'm getting the freshest, but when I reach into the back (where those should be), I find a bunch that went bad months ago and never got rotated out. 
[20:23]	DaemonFC[m]	schestowitz__: These apps and self-checkouts have made the actual store experience worse in every way.
[20:25]	DaemonFC[m]	They're so worried about being a technology company that they've forgotten entirely what customers go in there to do. Shop for groceries at good prices.
[20:25]	DaemonFC[m]	Also, customers just loooooove finding rotting shit on the shelf instead of fresh food.
[20:25]	DaemonFC[m]	If Sam Walton was alive to see this, he'd have a stroke.
[20:27]	DaemonFC[m]	Even when I worked there years ago I decided that my department would run efficiently, and that things would be neat and there would be no out of stock merchandise ever.
[20:27]	DaemonFC[m]	If a health inspector came into this Walmart they'd get fined for sure.
[20:28]	DaemonFC[m]	I get that having outs is probably unavoidable given the pandemic's unpredictable effects, but having a messy store with a lot of spoiled items sitting on the shelves is unacceptable, and I'm told the CEO of the company himself was in there the other day.
[20:29]	DaemonFC[m]	I absolutely hate the apps. They've rearranged the store in chaotic fashion so that it's not obvious where anything is, and then of course you need the app to find it but your phone doesn't work in there.
[20:30]	DaemonFC[m]	I'm guessing they're trying to make people who shop for themselves regret it so they will break down and use an app.
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[20:39]	techrights-ipfs	   IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 15.36   IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 80.63 swarm size (avg): 142.88  
[20:43]	CrystalMath	Ariadne: i convinced a would-be Alpine user to switch to Devuan :)
[20:44]	CrystalMath	the better debian fork
[20:49]	DaemonFC[m]	https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/03/15/977527808/who-points-to-wildlife-farms-in-southwest-china-as-likely-source-of-pandemic
[20:49]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | Wildlife Farms In China Likely Source Of Pandemic, Say WHO Investigators : Goats and Soda : NPR
[20:50]	DaemonFC[m]	""They take exotic animals, like civets, porcupines, pangolins, raccoon dogs and bamboo rats, and they breed them in captivity," says Daszak."
[20:50]	DaemonFC[m]	Yeah, so they can eat them.
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[21:40]	vmg3	DaemonFC[m]: what $40 million from the pentagon can produce
[21:41]	DaemonFC[m]	Nice section to post that in though. Goats and soda.
[21:41]	vmg3	weird to say the least
[21:54]	Ariadne	CrystalMath: ok?
[21:54]	Ariadne	CrystalMath: i dont care
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[22:03]	karolyi[m]	https://reclaimthenet.org/the-eu-wants-access-to-private-messages-without-the-need-for-a-court-order/
[22:03]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-reclaimthenet.org | The EU wants access to private messages without the need for a court order
[22:03]	CrystalMath	Ariadne: you're not impressed at all by my childish pettiness?
[22:03]	Ariadne	nope, i don't care at all
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[22:41]	Ariadne	after the guardian wrote a piece about nazis using pleroma, the pleroma foundation lost its endowment
[22:42]	psydroid	when did that happen?
[22:42]	Ariadne	the article came out on march 12
[22:43]	Ariadne	https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/12/far-right-open-source-technology-censorship
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[22:53]	CrystalMath	what endowment?
[22:57]	Ariadne	Pleroma development was funded by a wealthy person.  that article made him pull the plug.
[22:58]	Ariadne	he took his personal instance offline as well as the social instance for his porn sites
[22:59]	Ariadne	the same person also sponsors infrastructure for freenode, doing business as "your.org"
[22:59]	CrystalMath	how did i never hear of this Luke Smith person
[22:59]	CrystalMath	i follow all the austere open source stuff
[22:59]	CrystalMath	i know Mental Outlaw
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[23:00]	CrystalMath	and that DistroTube guy tends to have some opinions
[23:00]	CrystalMath	oh! i DO know him
[23:00]	CrystalMath	i've seen one of his videos, in which he talks about how bloated the modern web is
[23:00]	CrystalMath	it was recommended to me by invidious
[23:01]	CrystalMath	i just didn't pay attention to his name i guess
[23:01]	Ariadne	anyway, Pleroma could have just, you know, not been excessively friendly with those instances
[23:01]	Ariadne	and they would never have gotten that rep
[23:07]	CrystalMath	i liked Luke Smith's video, though i had no idea that he appears to some to be an advocate of white nationalism
[23:07]	CrystalMath	most of his videos appear to be clean of that sort of stuff
[23:08]	CrystalMath	they said that one was removed
[23:08]	CrystalMath	i presume that one had stuff
[23:09]	CrystalMath	what i want from Luke Smith is to keep all that stuff away from FLOSS, but i think it's okay for him to be in FLOSS as long as he keeps that other stuff away from it
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[23:12]	CrystalMath	in his latest video, he advocate for a FLOSS website about recipes
[23:12]	CrystalMath	i don't see anything wrong with that, just because the person may think some other things in his head
[23:13]	CrystalMath	and he advocates for open source recipes too :)
[23:14]	CrystalMath	although... to be fair.... a recipe site DOES need to have cookies :P
[23:14]	CrystalMath	(get it? :P)
[23:16]	CrystalMath	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY70NCW98Is
[23:20]	CrystalMath	schestowitz__: i think you should check out that guardian news post from 5 days ago, it tries to paint FLOSS as some kind of nazi movement
[23:21]	CrystalMath	also includes garbage like conflating being against codes of conduct and being a nazi
[23:21]	vmg3	he already posted it
[23:21]	CrystalMath	on second thought, i don't trust a word that article says, Luke Smith is probably not even slightly white nationalist
[23:26]	psydroid	it looks like a hitjob to discredit the FS movement
[23:27]	vmg3	terrible article,  firehose of half truths and opinion
[23:28]	CrystalMath	i can't find any techrights article about this
[23:28]	CrystalMath	maybe the new site is somewhat harder to navigate
[23:28]	vmg3	I ment posted in irc sorry
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[23:30]	CrystalMath	i think it's nice of them to link to the suicide prevention hotline, at least
[23:30]	CrystalMath	that's the only thing good and factual about the article
[23:30]	vmg3	hehe 
[23:31]	vmg3	there is a layer of truth but its just join the dots
[23:32]	vmg3	the picture ended up being a squiggly mess
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[23:33]	vmg3	the very thing the author objects to
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[23:34]	vmg3	more fuel for fake
[23:34]	vmg3	yay guardian
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[23:35]	CrystalMath	i earnestly recommend the unabomber manifesto, it's a good read
[23:35]	CrystalMath	not all of it is correct but i think he gets the point
[23:36]	vmg3	you know theres a list for people that search for that
[23:36]	CrystalMath	oh? i have a copy of it
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[23:36]	vmg3	how do we protect young impressionable minds?  
[23:37]	vmg3	while having a say
[23:37]	CrystalMath	there we go, i found it, yeah
[23:37]	CrystalMath	i downloaded it years ago
[23:37]	CrystalMath	okay now i gave it a proper name
[23:38]	CrystalMath	it's wrong to call him the unabomber, IMO, at least in the context of his paper
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[23:40]	vmg3	I don't claim to have answers
[23:40]	vmg3	I wish i did
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[23:42]	vmg3	yin & yang
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[23:47]	CrystalMath	lol! Luke Smith does admit that he look a LOT like that guy in the Matrix that betrayed the team, Cipher was it? :P
[23:47]	CrystalMath	*looks
[23:48]	CrystalMath	however i've also discovered that i have numerous disagreements with Luke Smith, he seems to be an advocate of rationlism and opposes empiricism
[23:48]	CrystalMath	*rationalism
[23:48]	vmg3	he's young to
[23:49]	vmg3	people change
[23:49]	vmg3	influencer
[23:49]	CrystalMath	he recommends "The Blank Slate" by Steven Pinker, yuck
[23:53]	CrystalMath	here's a better read:
[23:53]	CrystalMath	https://medium.com/@marie.eberle/why-evolutionary-psychology-should-be-tossed-in-the-trash-255ed5e26ac2
[23:53]	CrystalMath	Marie Eberle > Steven Pinker
[23:54]		*CrystalMath is also a vocal opponent of evolutionary psychology, which is a garbage field of anti-science
[23:54]	vmg3	even hitler had some good ideas
[23:55]	vmg3	boots on feet and food in belly
[23:55]	CrystalMath	vmg3: heh, well he did say "Don't we all belong together?" in his book :P
[23:56]	CrystalMath	i actually read the beginning of that, because i wondered what all the fuss is about, but really, it's also mostly rationalist nonsense and pseudoscience
[23:57]	CrystalMath	Hitler and Pinker share a lot... 6-letter last names ending in "er" and believing in things without evidence
[23:57]	vmg3	we are all individuals, don't think its possible for one thiesis to encapsulate humans
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[23:57]	vmg3	lol
[23:58]	MinceR	a lot of the genome too
[23:58]	CrystalMath	i still like Luke's videos, but i'm not really into his life philosophy
[23:58]	schestowitz__	[23:20] <CrystalMath> schestowitz__: i think you should check out that guardian news post from 5 days ago, it tries to paint FLOSS as some kind of nazi movement
[23:58]	schestowitz__	Bill Gates-funded rag
[23:59]	schestowitz__	CoC is an issue because of corporate overtones
[23:59]	vmg3	the end result will be guilt by association 
[23:59]	schestowitz__	being against corporate attacks on a community has nothing at all to do with racism
[23:59]	schestowitz__	vmg3: yes, typical
[23:59]	vmg3	yeah