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cubexyzof course windows is crapAug 16 02:28
cubexyza bad copy of VMSAug 16 02:29
cubexyzand before that it was a dos kludgeAug 16 02:30
cubexyzbut now with win10 it's more of a control mechanismAug 16 02:31
scientesXP was decentAug 16 02:31
scienteswell, except that is corrupted by diskAug 16 02:32
scientesbecause of bad codingAug 16 02:32
cubexyzdidn't it blue screen a fair bit?Aug 16 02:33
cubexyzI seem to remember thatAug 16 02:33
scientesyes it didAug 16 02:33
scientesuntil SP3Aug 16 02:33
scientesthen it was actually quite stableAug 16 02:33
scientesbut that took yearsAug 16 02:33
cubexyzby the time winxp came out we had Redhat 7.2Aug 16 02:34
scientesI used Linux briefly after windows corrupted my driveAug 16 02:34
scientesbecause of a integer overflow butAug 16 02:35
scientes*bugAug 16 02:35
scientesbut hardware detection wasn't very good back thenAug 16 02:35
scientesit was just starting to happenAug 16 02:35
cubexyzI still see the odd air gapped XP boxAug 16 02:35
cubexyzsome customers use that for old games they likeAug 16 02:35
scientesit was vista that finially made me switchAug 16 02:36
scienteswhat a piece of shitAug 16 02:36
scientesand about give minutes in I got a root-kitAug 16 02:36
cubexyzeven in the late 1980s Waterloo had sun4 boxesAug 16 02:36
cubexyzso I did see the other side of things quite earlyAug 16 02:37
scientesand now all you can get is various version of vistaAug 16 02:37
cubexyzof course those suns were very expensiveAug 16 02:37
cubexyzin 2001 we were up to slackware 8 or soAug 16 02:38
cubexyzanyways, I never liked windowsAug 16 02:39
cubexyzthose winscanners and winprinters, winthis winthat...Aug 16 02:40
cubexyzall control mechanisms from microsoftAug 16 02:40
scientesthere were also the NeXT boxesAug 16 02:44
scientesbut who could afford that?Aug 16 02:44
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cubexyzhistorically interestingAug 16 02:48
cubexyzthe original NeXT ran the first web server Aug 16 02:49
cubexyztoo expensive of courseAug 16 02:49
scientesits like the Talos II right now howeverAug 16 02:49
scientesit was excited for those that did buy themAug 16 02:49
cubexyzif you have the money you could buy an IBM mainframeAug 16 02:50
cubexyzor some hedt computerAug 16 02:51
cubexyzand intel has that 48-core XeonAug 16 02:52
scientescubexyz, AMD has the 64-core Epyc IIAug 16 02:52
scientesso that is 256 threads in one systemAug 16 02:52
scientesbut that requires signed firmware, which the Talos II is all open sourceAug 16 02:53
scientesand the Talos II still gives 176 threads, which was more than AMD's offering when it was releasedAug 16 02:53
cubexyzyeah Talos II is probably betterAug 16 02:55
cubexyzif you have an extra 10 grand on handAug 16 02:56
oiaohmIt going to be interesting to watch the battle between amd and intel.Aug 16 02:57
cubexyzoiaohm, I got my laserprinter working 100% :)Aug 16 02:58
cubexyzseems there's a nice 3rd party refurbishing business going on with cartridgesAug 16 02:59
cubexyzHP was no help Aug 16 02:59
oiaohmI do wonder if intel will end up opening up more of their firmware to make places like facebook with linuxbios and the like happier.Aug 16 03:08
oiaohmwith the amount of presure amd is putting on intel market.Aug 16 03:08
cubexyzI think x86/64 means Intel, AMD and VIA yes?Aug 16 03:11
cubexyzthere are no other choicesAug 16 03:11
oiaohmcubexyz: good choices there are 3.Aug 16 03:41
oiaohmcubexyz: bad choices if you want 486 class in the mix there is a choice of 3 other suppliers in x86.Aug 16 03:41
oiaohmVIA has not been doing high end server.Aug 16 03:42
DaemonFC[m]Probation: Day 7. Uneventful for the most part. Cat puked on some towels from yesterday's incident wherein the idiot upstairs overflowed the shower into our hotel room. I quickly stuffed them into the dirty towel bag in the maid's cart and helped myself to a fresh set. Aug 16 03:55
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MinceRhttps://full.pr0gramm.com/2019/07/27/1eac2904b770c96d.jpgAug 16 09:01
schestowitzlolAug 16 09:04
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schestowitz"Aug 16 09:39
schestowitzI've been following Kashmir news for about three decades.  However, thatAug 16 09:40
schestowitzdoes not make me any kind of expert, I don't follow it in great depth.Aug 16 09:40
schestowitzThat said, Pakistan, China, and KSA are among the countries involved inAug 16 09:40
schestowitzstirring up that part of India.  China, especially, wants to annex moreAug 16 09:40
schestowitzof it again but does not want to be seen wanting it or doing it.Aug 16 09:40
schestowitzhttps://www.bbc.com/news/world-south-asia-11693674Aug 16 09:40
schestowitzhttps://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/map/Kashmir-political-map.htmAug 16 09:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Kashmir territories profile - BBC NewsAug 16 09:40
schestowitzI also expect that China is really going to increase the pressure overAug 16 09:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nationsonline.org | Political Map of Kashmir - Nations Online ProjectAug 16 09:40
schestowitzHK.  They have bigger online campaign activities than Russia, but haveAug 16 09:40
schestowitznot done much outside their borders, until lately.  I expect thatAug 16 09:40
schestowitzthey'll also be quite aggressive about it online soon.Aug 16 09:40
schestowitz"Aug 16 09:40
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XRevan86> Popular #mpv Player is now #CelluloidAug 16 16:15
XRevan86*gnome*-mpv is now CelluloidAug 16 16:15
schestowitzwhat a name..Aug 16 16:26
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schestowitzkaniini: hv Aug 16 19:34
schestowitz uptimeAug 16 19:34
schestowitz 18:34:05 up 261 days, 21:13,  load average: 2.74, 3.15, 3.31Aug 16 19:34
schestowitzwow, alpine so stable, barely even network turbulence all this timeAug 16 19:35
scienteslibraries that use too many function pointers.....Aug 16 19:40
scientestoo much magical codeAug 16 19:40
scientestoo much hiding shit from youAug 16 19:43
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XRevan86schestowitz: I've had no reason to reboot anything on servers except for updates ever. On Debian.Aug 16 20:01
XRevan86I think I did get to 400 %).Aug 16 20:04
XRevan86On OpenVZ, of course.Aug 16 20:04
XRevan86I have root access to one OpenVZ-based VPS, and it's on 83 days right now. Tells one how long ago I upgraded it.Aug 16 20:05
XRevan86Used to be on Jessie, now on Ascii.Aug 16 20:05
XRevan86And I cannot go newer because the kernel is dirty old and glibc thinks that's balonie. Alpine does have an advantage here. But it won't be a problem for a few years, plenty of time for catching up.Aug 16 20:10
XRevan86Basically, uptime is a good indicator of how long one can keep a kernel out of date (:Aug 16 20:16
XRevan86And OpenVZ is one way to ensure there's no choice anyway.Aug 16 20:16
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scientesXRevan86,  20:05:40 up 172 days, 10:39,  1 user,  load average: 0.12, 0.08, 0.01Aug 16 21:05
scientesmy VPSAug 16 21:05
scientesbecause its arm, and they don' really care enoughAug 16 21:06
scientesbut the price is goodAug 16 21:06
XRevan86scientes: Scaleway?Aug 16 21:08
scientesyeahAug 16 21:08
XRevan86scientes: Their x86 costs the same.Aug 16 21:08
scientesi really don't have any complaintsAug 16 21:08
XRevan86And has local boot.Aug 16 21:08
scientesyeah but I want a arm vpsAug 16 21:08
scientesits nice to haveAug 16 21:08
scienteswhen you need to test somethingAug 16 21:08
XRevan86scientes: Ah, fair enough :).Aug 16 21:09
MinceRhttps://img.pr0gramm.com/2019/08/16/4b3af39ab188105a.jpgAug 16 22:01
MinceR(audio:unimportant) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2019/07/27/925fd06458ed8755.mp4Aug 16 22:05
psydroidand I suppose you will get access to better hardware over time as wellAug 16 22:15
scientespsydroid, noAug 16 22:17
scientesthey still are trying to sell armv7 crapAug 16 22:17
psydroidoh wow, I thought armv8 was the baseline these daysAug 16 22:18
scientesthat's what I haveAug 16 22:18
scientesits thunderx however so no 32-bit supportAug 16 22:18
scientesbut I didn't even realize thatAug 16 22:18
psydroidI've never needed it anyhow, I run 64-bit even on my deviceAug 16 22:20
psydroidthat was the main reason to get it, I didn't want to deal with 32-bitAug 16 22:20
scientesandroid run lots and lots of 32-bit codeAug 16 22:20
scientesmy phone is 64-bit cpu but 32-bit user-landAug 16 22:21
scienteswhich is commonAug 16 22:21
psydroidso how do you deal with that using your VPS?Aug 16 22:23
scientes64-bit is fine on the VPSAug 16 22:23
scientesi only learned that it didn't run 32-bit in #debian-arm, had it for a year and never tried to run 32-bit codeAug 16 22:23
psydroidI've just read they are transitioning to 64-bit only for Android too nowAug 16 22:25
scientesyes, sir googleAug 16 22:25
scientes*yes sir, googleAug 16 22:25
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/19081153Aug 16 23:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectAug 16 23:04
XRevan86https://youtu.be/FQ5YU_spBw0 obligatoryAug 16 23:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Monty Python - Stoning - YouTubeAug 16 23:05
MinceR:>Aug 16 23:05
*XRevan86 re-watched the witch testing sketch as well.Aug 16 23:13
XRevan86Boy that reminds me of the school days %)Aug 16 23:13
XRevan86The school kind of the scientific method.Aug 16 23:14
scientesheheAug 16 23:25
XRevan86This reminds me I haven't seen The Meaning of LifeAug 16 23:33
scientesmehAug 16 23:35
scientesi don't think it is as good as their earlier workAug 16 23:35
XRevan86If it's even half as good, I'll take it.Aug 16 23:35
DaemonFC[m]I'm officially late on my car payment.Aug 16 23:41
DaemonFC[m]John's problem, I guess.Aug 16 23:41

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