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| schestowitz__ | but Sweden isn't without its issues, which some locals love blaming on immigrants alone | Sep 16 00:00 |
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| schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: US will pass UK soon for deaths/capita | Sep 16 00:00 |
| schestowitz__ | and will be like 7th worst in the world | Sep 16 00:00 |
| schestowitz__ | America having most of the top 10 | Sep 16 00:00 |
| schestowitz__ | 6 out of 10 | Sep 16 00:01 |
| schestowitz__ | except spain, belgium, uk, italy | Sep 16 00:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, saboteurs. Republicans and black people mostly. | Sep 16 00:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Ignoring the mask laws. | Sep 16 00:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Not washing their hands. Church in person. | Sep 16 00:02 |
| schestowitz__ | Poor people | Sep 16 00:03 |
| schestowitz__ | not black people | Sep 16 00:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Of course this mostly intensifies the problem for them. | Sep 16 00:03 |
| schestowitz__ | it just happens to be that many whose ancestors were slaves are also poor | Sep 16 00:03 |
| schestowitz__ | LatinX also have high infection rates | Sep 16 00:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I still haven't had it. | Sep 16 00:03 |
| schestowitz__ | my friend in germany predicts we'll never have it | Sep 16 00:04 |
| schestowitz__ | we're very clean and meticulous | Sep 16 00:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Dr. Fauci figures that Vitamin D is worth taking. | Sep 16 00:04 |
| schestowitz__ | but this city's infection rate is now higher than the national average | Sep 16 00:04 |
| schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: so did Linus Pauling | Sep 16 00:04 |
| schestowitz__ | and was called a cank for it | Sep 16 00:04 |
| schestowitz__ | better soak in some sun | Sep 16 00:04 |
| schestowitz__ | I have these past 3 days | Sep 16 00:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There was a large study done, and people deficient in Vitamin D were twice as likely to be diagnosed in the first place. | Sep 16 00:05 |
| schestowitz__ | there was a heat wave here, unusual for sept. | Sep 16 00:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And 93% more likely to end up on a ventilator. | Sep 16 00:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So, yeah Vitamin D is cheap. | Sep 16 00:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm taking that. | Sep 16 00:05 |
| schestowitz__ | that's how some explain high uk death toll | Sep 16 00:05 |
| schestowitz__ | weak immune system among the elderly | Sep 16 00:05 |
| schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: only if you have vit D deficit | Sep 16 00:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I decided to take 2,000 IU of Vitamin D. | Sep 16 00:05 |
| schestowitz__ | otherwise it's money down the toilet and vitamins literally down the toilet | Sep 16 00:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's not an insanely huge dose. | Sep 16 00:06 |
| schestowitz__ | if you lack sun exposure etc. | Sep 16 00:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I do. | Sep 16 00:06 |
| schestowitz__ | let me look into vit a | Sep 16 00:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So it stands to reason that $5 down the toilet, potentially, is a small price to pay for being wrong. | Sep 16 00:06 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/vitamins-and-minerals/vitamin-a/ | Sep 16 00:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nhs.uk | Vitamins and minerals - Vitamin A - NHS | Sep 16 00:06 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Worst thing: $5 wasted. | Sep 16 00:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Best case: Maybe I don't get COVID-19 because I paid the $5. | Sep 16 00:07 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Sep 16 00:07 |
| schestowitz__ | Vitamin A, also known as retinol, has several important functions. | Sep 16 00:07 |
| schestowitz__ | These include: | Sep 16 00:07 |
| schestowitz__ | helping your body's natural defence against illness and infection (the immune system) work properly | Sep 16 00:07 |
| schestowitz__ | helping vision in dim light | Sep 16 00:07 |
| schestowitz__ | keeping skin and the lining of some parts of the body, such as the nose, healthy | Sep 16 00:07 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Sep 16 00:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, beta carotene is better. | Sep 16 00:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You can't really overdose on it. | Sep 16 00:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Too much vitamin A is bad. Real bad. | Sep 16 00:07 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/vitamins-and-minerals/vitamin-d/ | Sep 16 00:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nhs.uk | Vitamins and minerals - Vitamin D - NHS | Sep 16 00:07 | |
| schestowitz__ | " | Sep 16 00:07 |
| schestowitz__ | Coronavirus update | Sep 16 00:07 |
| schestowitz__ | Consider taking 10 micrograms of vitamin D a day to keep your bones and muscles healthy. | Sep 16 00:07 |
| schestowitz__ | This is because you may not be getting enough vitamin D from sunlight if you're indoors most of the day. | Sep 16 00:07 |
| schestowitz__ | There have been some news reports about vitamin D reducing the risk of coronavirus. However, there is currently not enough evidence to support this. | Sep 16 00:08 |
| schestowitz__ | Do not buy more vitamin D than you need. | Sep 16 00:08 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Sep 16 00:08 |
| schestowitz__ | So our government suggests upping one's vit D intake | Sep 16 00:08 |
| schestowitz__ | NHS is not a company | Sep 16 00:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I don't even listen to the CDC. | Sep 16 00:08 |
| schestowitz__ | so it's probably more credible than US orgs and depts | Sep 16 00:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's no point. It's been totally gutted and turned into part of the campaign. | Sep 16 00:08 |
| schestowitz__ | yup | Sep 16 00:08 |
| schestowitz__ | seems so | Sep 16 00:08 |
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| schestowitz__ | I stopped listening to it 2 months ago | Sep 16 00:08 |
| schestowitz__ | and I regard US death toll/cases figures to be bogus since | Sep 16 00:09 |
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| schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: I soaked in the sun Sunday-Tuesday | Sep 16 00:09 |
| schestowitz__ | maybe tomorrow also, based on the forecast | Sep 16 00:09 |
| schestowitz__ | I can get a tan indoors given the right angles of the sun (times of day) | Sep 16 00:09 |
| schestowitz__ | otherwise walk outside for longer | Sep 16 00:10 |
| schestowitz__ | feed the fowl etc. | Sep 16 00:10 |
| schestowitz__ | it makes sense, intuitively, that deficit of Vit D can harm the body's response to COVID | Sep 16 00:10 |
| schestowitz__ | emphasis on deficit | Sep 16 00:11 |
| schestowitz__ | excess won't help either | Sep 16 00:11 |
| schestowitz__ | winter is coming | Sep 16 00:11 |
| schestowitz__ | and with it overwhelmed hospitals | Sep 16 00:11 |
| schestowitz__ | so people can be denied access to cancer diagnosis etc. | Sep 16 00:11 |
| schestowitz__ | and flu too (ordinary flu) will thus be more deadly, capacity issues | Sep 16 00:11 |
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| schestowitz__ | zoobab: | Sep 16 00:20 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Sep 16 00:20 |
| schestowitz__ | I have just found an interesting piece of news published in IP Copy. It stems from the well-known firm Keltie. | Sep 16 00:20 |
| schestowitz__ | https://ipcopy.wordpress.com/2020/09/08/so-long-and-thanks-for-all-the-fish-the-uk-withdraws-from-the-unitary-patent-court-project/ | Sep 16 00:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipcopy.wordpress.com | So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish: the UK withdraws from the Unitary Patent project « IPcopy | Sep 16 00:20 | |
| schestowitz__ | It blows into the same horn as other well-known firms, which even have written their reservations to the German Ministry of Justice. | Sep 16 00:20 |
| schestowitz__ | I also invite the readers of this blog to consult the latest paper of Mr Tilmann in GRUR Int. 08/20, 847. | Sep 16 00:20 |
| schestowitz__ | He insists upon his point that the work devolved to the London Section should go automatically to Paris. This time without even the sketch of a legal solution. | Sep 16 00:20 |
| schestowitz__ | In this paper he also mentions that UK has always been a difficult partner in Europe when it comes to patent matters. He considers that the UK industry and legal profession has a lot to loose from not participating in the UPCA. | Sep 16 00:20 |
| schestowitz__ | He rejects any possibility for a judicial forum for patent matters under the cover of the CJEU, although when it comes to a unitary patent for the EU this should be the first option. He knows too well that the required unanimity will never be reached. | Sep 16 00:20 |
| schestowitz__ | Why then insist upon a system which is simply adding a further layer of case law on the existing situation? We will still have UK case law, and the corresponding costs, as well as that of the EU members not participating in the UPCA, on top of that of the UPC. | Sep 16 00:20 |
| schestowitz__ | That the USA and China have decentralised courts for IP matters is not a reason to do the same in Europe. The danger of forum shopping is real with the UPCA. And in view of the higher number of patents of non-European proprietors, offering the latter a single point of attack is a consequence which is showed under the carpet. What matters is earning a lot! | Sep 16 00:20 |
| schestowitz__ | According a post from Bristows dated 11.09.2020, the new ratification bill will enter the Bundesrat (second chamber of the German Parliament) on 18.09.2020. | Sep 16 00:20 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.bristowsupc.com/latest-news/upc-preparatory-committee-meets-and-german-bill-progresses/ | Sep 16 00:20 |
| schestowitz__ | Lobbyists are very active these days. | Sep 16 00:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bristowsupc.com | UPC Preparatory Committee meets and German bill progresses | Latest news | Unified Patent Court and Unitary Patent | Sep 16 00:20 | |
| schestowitz__ | " | Sep 16 00:20 |
| schestowitz__ | http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2020/09/11/preparatory-committee-the-unitary-patent-system-can-be-functional-in-a-near-future/#comments | Sep 16 00:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Preparatory Committee: The Unitary Patent system can be functional in a near future - Kluwer Patent Blog | Sep 16 00:20 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz__ "so people can be denied access t"> MARISOL's cancer hospital is going down the shitter. | Sep 16 00:24 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Their latest forward looking statements suggest that they're going to accept Medicare and Medicaid and more marketplace plans to get into "value based care" and they're trying to be bought out, rumor is a billion dollars. | Sep 16 00:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: They didn't want to take Medicare for two reasons. 1. It only pays for real medicine. 2. It takes the average reimbursement rate in the area among private insurers and pays 78% of that as the approved amount. | Sep 16 00:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Half of what they do is total hogwash and the other half they were used to billing more.... Much more. | Sep 16 00:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But since the recession has their business down by nearly 80%, gotta do what you gotta do. | Sep 16 00:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Even before this, they were having problems. | Sep 16 00:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Firing people, cutting salaries, cutting retirement plan, upping employee benefit premiums. | Sep 16 00:27 |
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| schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: no more water trucks there | Sep 16 00:30 |
| schestowitz__ | gosh. TAP water. | Sep 16 00:30 |
| schestowitz__ | you cannot EAT an Apple hypePhone... well, unless you do what "Will It Blend" do... and even then you probably don't want to ingest what they made | Sep 16 00:33 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 15/9/2020: IBM Z and LinuxONE, PinePhone Multi-Distro Image http://techrights.org/2020/09/15/ibm-z-and-linuxone/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/171c8950-dec3-4a98-880b-29c3ca596cdb] | Sep 16 00:35 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8sxwK2pJI4 | Sep 16 00:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Will it Blend? - Apple Watch - YouTube | Sep 16 00:37 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWqw5SpITg8 | Sep 16 00:37 |
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| schestowitz__ | our anniversary this Friday | Sep 16 00:40 |
| schestowitz__ | I think we'll make it very simple, no expensive things... just take out some food to the marina | Sep 16 00:40 |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 16 00:40 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Wear a white coat and even the most useless activity will look like An Experiment. | Sep 16 00:42 |
| schestowitz__ | it's like a zoo http://schestowitz.com/royrianne/gallery/index.php/Eat-Out-Help-Out/20200824_152247 | Sep 16 00:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | 20200824 152247 | Sep 16 00:42 | |
| schestowitz__ | XRevan86: or sell pseudoscience | Sep 16 00:43 |
| schestowitz__ | the "white coat" or "lab" syndrome | Sep 16 00:43 |
| XRevan86 | Blending crap is harmless at least… | Sep 16 00:43 |
| schestowitz__ | chiropractors call themselves "doctors" (which also helps) | Sep 16 00:43 |
| schestowitz__ | XRevan86: there are chemicals they can inhale sometimes | Sep 16 00:43 |
| schestowitz__ | but he wear a mask and warns not to let that be breathed into the lungs | Sep 16 00:44 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz__: Harmless from the other side of the world at least :) | Sep 16 00:44 |
| schestowitz__ | the world is harmful | Sep 16 00:44 |
| schestowitz__ | well, humans are | Sep 16 00:44 |
| schestowitz__ | some more than others | Sep 16 00:44 |
| XRevan86 | rocks, water, acids, you name it | Sep 16 00:45 |
| schestowitz__ | the 'primitive' ones less so | Sep 16 00:45 |
| schestowitz__ | even their faring methods cultivate nothing in the sense of deforestation\ | Sep 16 00:45 |
| schestowitz__ | *farming | Sep 16 00:46 |
| schestowitz__ | Re: New Article | Sep 16 00:48 |
| schestowitz__ | > Contains the quote(s) I was talking about. | Sep 16 00:48 |
| schestowitz__ | Thanks! | Sep 16 00:48 |
| MinceR | 16 014250 < XRevan86> MinceR: Wear a white coat and even the most useless activity will look like An Experiment. | Sep 16 00:50 |
| MinceR | http://www.scpwiki.com/scp-2383-j | Sep 16 00:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.scpwiki.com | SCP-2383-J - SCP Foundation | Sep 16 00:50 | |
| schestowitz__ | Re: No name, no details | Sep 16 00:53 |
| schestowitz__ | > I learned about an incredibly huge accomplishment of rms today. Something understatedly alluded to (historically) by the FSF. Someone is being modest. | Sep 16 00:53 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Sep 16 00:53 |
| schestowitz__ | > I'm waiting for permission to quote it. If I can't get that, it could still help with the research I'm doing of already public information. Maybe I'm the only person that thinks this is a big deal, but I think it's a big deal. | Sep 16 00:53 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | <XRevan86 "MinceR: Wear a white coat and ev"> Yes, but you risk walking out a window. | Sep 16 01:03 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: Da, very clumsy | Sep 16 01:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Police are looking into possible causes of Shulepov's fall. Some reports have suggested he slipped out the window while smoking a cigarette." | Sep 16 01:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Obviously, smoking the cigarette had something to do with it. | Sep 16 01:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | These damned Russian cigarettes. Something about them combines with the Coronavirus and lab coats to make people walk out of windows. | Sep 16 01:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Seemingly, with no reason at all. | Sep 16 01:09 |
| XRevan86 | Probably those famous Don cigarettes | Sep 16 01:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I wonder if the people aboard the Kursk were also smoking. | Sep 16 01:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You can just link it to everything, really. | Sep 16 01:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Cancer, atherosclerosis, emphysema....falling out of windows after complaining of hospital working conditions. | Sep 16 01:15 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.newsweek.com/green-party-howie-hawkins-election-zero-percent-searches-2020-candidates-1530324 | Sep 16 02:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newsweek.com | The Green Party's Election Nominee Is Getting Zero Percent of Searches for 2020 Candidates | Sep 16 02:01 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.tecmint.com/command-line-tools-to-monitor-linux-performance/ | Sep 16 02:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com | 20 Command Line Tools to Monitor Linux Performance | Sep 16 02:26 | |
| schestowitz__ | looking to add a few | Sep 16 02:26 |
| schestowitz__ | glances seems too verbose | Sep 16 02:29 |
| schestowitz__ | https://opensource.com/life/16/2/open-source-tools-system-monitoring | Sep 16 02:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-4 system monitoring tools for Linux | Opensource.com | Sep 16 02:29 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/top-linux-monitoring-tools.html | Sep 16 02:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cyberciti.biz | 30 Linux System Monitoring Tools Every SysAdmin Should Know - nixCraft | Sep 16 02:30 | |
| schestowitz__ | going to try nmon | Sep 16 02:33 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I haven't heard of Pootie Poot backing Howie Hawkins this year. | Sep 16 02:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like when he bought all of those Jill Stein ads on Facebook. | Sep 16 02:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They don't really have to break into elections systems when they can just run ads for the Green Party. | Sep 16 02:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They get a better return on the Green Party ads because they can target voters likely to vote for Democrats. | Sep 16 02:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I thought it was "interesting" that Jill Stein went to dinner with Vladimir Putin. | Sep 16 02:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Interesting choice of company. | Sep 16 02:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/05/flynn-putin-dinner-payment-security-clearance-photo/ | Sep 16 02:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.motherjones.com | The Photo That May Help Unlock the Trump-Russia Scandal – Mother Jones | Sep 16 02:54 | |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Microsoft in the news more about their new hyperv patches. | Sep 16 04:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You still can't use hyperv without a proprietary "kernel". | Sep 16 04:45 |
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| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: it is interesting the recent hyper-v patches are to be able to run hyper-v without a windows kernel running. | Sep 16 06:11 |
| oiaohm | Of course you still have the closed hyper-v | Sep 16 06:12 |
| schestowitz__ | yes, I saw that | Sep 16 06:18 |
| schestowitz__ | and left some commentary | Sep 16 06:18 |
| schestowitz__ | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/142123#comment-26418 | Sep 16 06:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: Proprietary Hyper-V, New Stuff, KVM and More | Tux Machines | Sep 16 06:18 | |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz__: interesting question when Microsoft say drew hyper-v inspiration from xen is this another place Microsoft does not follow gpl? | Sep 16 06:22 |
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| schestowitz__ | oiaohm: they violated the gpl | Sep 16 07:06 |
| schestowitz__ | and gregory k-h helped his masters | Sep 16 07:07 |
| schestowitz__ | novell's | Sep 16 07:07 |
| schestowitz__ | https://pleroma.tilde.zone/objects/2905d03a-6747-4d8a-849a-28e22fd5587a | Sep 16 07:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.tilde.zone | Pleroma | Sep 16 07:13 | |
| schestowitz__ | " | Sep 16 07:13 |
| schestowitz__ | "If you hate a person, you hate something in him that is part of yourself. What isn't part of ourselves doesn't disturb us." — Hermann Hesse | Sep 16 07:13 |
| schestowitz__ | Herman Hesse was never a Debian Devel but maybe he should have been on an advisory/oversight board. | Sep 16 07:13 |
| schestowitz__ | More clearly : | Sep 16 07:14 |
| schestowitz__ | *Dont become the thing you hate.* | Sep 16 07:14 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Sep 16 07:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I just got a secured credit card. | Sep 16 07:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Capital One wouldn't approve me for a secured card. | Sep 16 07:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think it may have had something to do with filing bankruptcy against them on over $20,000 in credit card debt. | Sep 16 07:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: I had to explain how these work to Mandy. | Sep 16 07:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I told him "You give the bank some money and that's your credit limit, and so there's no risk to them. Then you pay every month and it gives you an account that says "pays as agreed". You have to do this to rebuild your credit after bankruptcy.". | Sep 16 07:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He said it sounded like a scheme. I said, "It is, but you have to play the game.". | Sep 16 07:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | When you get out of bankruptcy, you have no debt, but it wipes out your existing accounts. | Sep 16 07:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So you immediately have no credit history except for a bankruptcy. | Sep 16 07:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Playing around with a stupid little $200 fake loan (the secured card) is a small price to pay for wiping out about $100,000 in debt. | Sep 16 07:21 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: @seek tuxmachines@mastodon.technology [https://pleroma.site/objects/05deb2ec-4036-4612-a9a9-23daf79dcfc7] | Sep 16 07:26 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: @adcock hopefully https will be supported after the migration [https://pleroma.site/objects/b282aff4-f2f6-4384-a096-26bafd9bdfc2] | Sep 16 07:27 | |
| Ariadne | [21:45] <8e55e9DaemonFC[m]> You still can't use hyperv without a proprietary "kernel". | Sep 16 07:31 |
| Ariadne | not true. xen supports the hyperv ABI. | Sep 16 07:31 |
| Ariadne | they call it viridian | Sep 16 07:32 |
| Ariadne | what isn't supported on the xen side is windows as dom0 | Sep 16 07:33 |
| Ariadne | but that's because dom0 requires a special kernel | Sep 16 07:33 |
| Ariadne | which xen directly acts as bootloader for | Sep 16 07:33 |
| Ariadne | regarding applebaum and Debian, I would have kicked him out too. many of the people who made allegations against him regarding raping them I see no reason not to believe based on their conduct | Sep 16 07:35 |
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| schestowitz__ | they need to complain in the police | Sep 16 07:41 |
| schestowitz__ | not even that much was done | Sep 16 07:41 |
| schestowitz__ | (and we know what happened to Assange at the end...) | Sep 16 07:41 |
| Ariadne | it can take years to build up enough of a nerve to actually report abuse | Sep 16 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | sometimes they make up for lack of quality evidence with quantity | Sep 16 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | as that then makes it more cumbersome to respond. Either way, go through police | Sep 16 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | I'm all for due process | Sep 16 07:42 |
| Ariadne | people in the "hacker" culture that spawned things like indymedia are taught to not involve the cops | Sep 16 07:43 |
| Ariadne | several of his accusers were involved in indymedia at the time I was | Sep 16 07:43 |
| Ariadne | and, they did stage an intervention before going public. | Sep 16 07:44 |
| Ariadne | from a project management perspective, having an accused rapist on your team is a liability | Sep 16 07:46 |
| Ariadne | applebaum knows who the accusers are. why has he not sued them for libel? | Sep 16 07:47 |
| Ariadne | also the Tor Project HR person investigated the claims and found them credible | Sep 16 07:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Go to the police they said. They'll help you they said..... | Sep 16 07:55 |
| Ariadne | yeah. it's not that easy for queer people I assure you | Sep 16 07:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, like that 13 year old autistic boy that weighed 100 pounds that they "had to shoot 7 times". | Sep 16 07:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're awful to mentally ill people too. | Sep 16 07:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A welfare check turns into the death sentence. | Sep 16 07:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then you have the mom crying on CNN going "I called 911 because I thought they would help him!". | Sep 16 07:56 |
| Ariadne | I would say that the fact that Tor HR found the claims credible speaks for itself | Sep 16 07:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <Ariadne "people in the "hacker" culture t"> Yeah, the police might come out, but they're probably looking at you too. | Sep 16 07:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Possibly more than the person you called them on. | Sep 16 07:58 |
| Ariadne | yep | Sep 16 07:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Why do you think I went to the hospital after that guy I was dating beat me up? | Sep 16 07:58 |
| Ariadne | to get medical assistance and evidence for a civil case | Sep 16 07:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The police were out there and he was trying to tell them I was choking him. The cops said that he seemed "evasive and untrustworthy". | Sep 16 07:59 |
| Ariadne | :) | Sep 16 07:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <Ariadne "to get medical assistance and ev"> No, he doesn't have a pot to piss in and he has several judgment creditors after him and a 450 credit score (worse than mine is WITH THE BANKRUPTCY!). | Sep 16 08:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I figured the police might start looking at me, because let's just say it wouldn't be the first time. | Sep 16 08:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They have a warrant out for him on domestic battery. | Sep 16 08:00 |
| schestowitz__ | [07:52] <Ariadne> also the Tor Project HR person investigated the claims and found them credible | Sep 16 08:01 |
| schestowitz__ | Don't get me started about Tor admins :-) | Sep 16 08:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz__ "[07:52] <Ariadne> also the Tor P"> The Tor project is hurting bad financially right now. | Sep 16 08:01 |
| schestowitz__ | Ariadne: as an aside | Sep 16 08:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're still bumping the underlying Firefox ESR browser and not much else it seems. | Sep 16 08:02 |
| schestowitz__ | I never said he was innocent | Sep 16 08:02 |
| schestowitz__ | only that Debian's Zini lied to journalists about what was known | Sep 16 08:02 |
| schestowitz__ | accusation inflation as RMS called it | Sep 16 08:02 |
| Ariadne | sure | Sep 16 08:02 |
| schestowitz__ | and it was later proven internally that he had lied | Sep 16 08:02 |
| schestowitz__ | and they never bothered correcting it | Sep 16 08:02 |
| schestowitz__ | that's what Pocock complains about | Sep 16 08:02 |
| Ariadne | I'm not sure why some random Debian dev was commenting on it | Sep 16 08:02 |
| Ariadne | it is indeed inappropriate | Sep 16 08:03 |
| schestowitz__ | and I am being attacked as if I wrote it and also as if I claim that Appelbaum was innocent | Sep 16 08:03 |
| Ariadne | you may want to clarify that position | Sep 16 08:03 |
| schestowitz__ | Ariadne: apparently that helped set the tone | Sep 16 08:03 |
| schestowitz__ | pocock studied the media coverage | Sep 16 08:03 |
| schestowitz__ | the phase from Zini's email was repeated in very high-profile publications | Sep 16 08:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Matthew Garrett does take time out of his busy day to complain about Techrights. | Sep 16 08:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Odd. | Sep 16 08:04 |
| schestowitz__ | carrying the veracity of "Debian" | Sep 16 08:04 |
| schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: you know what he stands for | Sep 16 08:04 |
| schestowitz__ | to some who don't know, well.. | Sep 16 08:04 |
| schestowitz__ | Appelbaum was a mess to his employer, Google | Sep 16 08:04 |
| schestowitz__ | Google handed over his gmail account to the USG | Sep 16 08:04 |
| schestowitz__ | and he said he had used that to entrap Google | Sep 16 08:05 |
| schestowitz__ | they did warn him and fought in court for a bit | Sep 16 08:05 |
| schestowitz__ | to break the slinece | Sep 16 08:05 |
| schestowitz__ | they also handed over Smari's emails, iirc, he also used gmail | Sep 16 08:05 |
| schestowitz__ | he used to be here in techrights irc | Sep 16 08:05 |
| schestowitz__ | iirc, appelbaum had a technical role in some "kink" site | Sep 16 08:06 |
| schestowitz__ | not sure the domain name | Sep 16 08:06 |
| schestowitz__ | and i doubt it's what got ms peter arrested | Sep 16 08:06 |
| schestowitz__ | but his weird sexual life was bound to become his takedown vector | Sep 16 08:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz__ "iirc, appelbaum had a technical "> Oh, I'm from Chicago, where we put S&M museums and sex shops next to the park. | Sep 16 08:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So I wouldn't know anything about that. | Sep 16 08:07 |
| schestowitz__ | whether he did something illegal and non consensual... I guess two people taking some drugs and then having sex can be spun as one drugging the less willing (to have sex) | Sep 16 08:07 |
| schestowitz__ | At one point a Clinton-connected astroturd group tried to link Assange to pedophilia | Sep 16 08:08 |
| schestowitz__ | and it backfired quickly | Sep 16 08:08 |
| Ariadne | i think mjg's complaint about techrights is that the post came off as defensive of appelbaum | Sep 16 08:08 |
| schestowitz__ | as it became clear where it had come from | Sep 16 08:08 |
| Ariadne | personal experience of *mine* tells me appelbaum is a chauvinist | Sep 16 08:08 |
| schestowitz__ | Ariadne: it did, but I merely reposted it | Sep 16 08:08 |
| schestowitz__ | the original is Daniel's | Sep 16 08:08 |
| Ariadne | regarding pocock, have you considered that perhaps he is manipulating you? | Sep 16 08:09 |
| schestowitz__ | and it focuses on what was discovered as he was binge-ing archives of debian-private | Sep 16 08:09 |
| schestowitz__ | Ariadne: no, I examined the underlying claims | Sep 16 08:09 |
| schestowitz__ | even last year | Sep 16 08:09 |
| schestowitz__ | FSFE got him in trouble | Sep 16 08:09 |
| schestowitz__ | Debian was worried they were next | Sep 16 08:10 |
| schestowitz__ | as they too were taking questionable money | Sep 16 08:10 |
| schestowitz__ | to SPI | Sep 16 08:10 |
| schestowitz__ | so they pro-actively gagged him | Sep 16 08:10 |
| schestowitz__ | and that certainly backfired | Sep 16 08:10 |
| Ariadne | i see | Sep 16 08:10 |
| schestowitz__ | at FSFE he had an obligation to Fellows | Sep 16 08:10 |
| Ariadne | this is all quite bizzare, honestly | Sep 16 08:10 |
| schestowitz__ | and a conflict, so he chose to inform Fellows | Sep 16 08:10 |
| schestowitz__ | Debian (Mattias) and Debian then hooked up | Sep 16 08:11 |
| schestowitz__ | to fish dirt on Denial | Sep 16 08:11 |
| schestowitz__ | Daniel | Sep 16 08:11 |
| schestowitz__ | and he says the whole thing traces back to a 'mitake | Sep 16 08:11 |
| schestowitz__ | and he says the whole thing traces back to a 'mistake" of choosing to be rep at FSFE | Sep 16 08:11 |
| schestowitz__ | because what he said there shook them to the core | Sep 16 08:11 |
| schestowitz__ | and then Debian flipped out | Sep 16 08:11 |
| schestowitz__ | it was like half a year apart | Sep 16 08:11 |
| schestowitz__ | One general wish -- which I agreed with -- from Debian was to better share information about people... Matthias Kirschner, FSFE President | Sep 16 08:12 |
| schestowitz__ | Bear in mind many in FSFE quit | Sep 16 08:12 |
| schestowitz__ | inc. the top people | Sep 16 08:12 |
| Ariadne | i always preferred FFII over FSFE | Sep 16 08:12 |
| schestowitz__ | Kirschner and a few left in his 'circle' | Sep 16 08:12 |
| schestowitz__ | doing mileage on Google and Microsoft (yes, also Microsoft) cash | Sep 16 08:13 |
| schestowitz__ | Ariadne: shame as FFII barely does anything anymore | Sep 16 08:13 |
| schestowitz__ | it's mostly zoobab | Sep 16 08:13 |
| schestowitz__ | ante wassel isn't involved much anymore | Sep 16 08:13 |
| schestowitz__ | Andre moved on as well | Sep 16 08:13 |
| Ariadne | felipe is a good friend of mine | Sep 16 08:13 |
| Ariadne | but he moved on | Sep 16 08:13 |
| schestowitz__ | it was already barely functional more than a decade ago when it focused on OOXML | Sep 16 08:13 |
| schestowitz__ | http://techrights.org/2020/09/10/fsfe-resignations/ | Sep 16 08:14 |
| Ariadne | anyway, my personal take is that all this dirt slinging doesn't really help anyone find real solutions | Sep 16 08:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | List of FSFE Resignations and Expulsions | Techrights | Sep 16 08:14 | |
| schestowitz__ | you can read the resignation letters | Sep 16 08:14 |
| Ariadne | identifying problems is good, but we need to identify solutions too | Sep 16 08:14 |
| schestowitz__ | Hugo Roy, Shaun Coughlan | Sep 16 08:14 |
| schestowitz__ | "Jonas Oberg, who resigned from the Executive Director post after irreconcilable differences with President Kirschner" | Sep 16 08:15 |
| schestowitz__ | Ariadne: yes, I agree | Sep 16 08:15 |
| Ariadne | (and perhaps we should be careful not to write articles that can be misconstrued as a defense of a rapist) | Sep 16 08:15 |
| schestowitz__ | he tried to establish something | Sep 16 08:15 |
| schestowitz__ | but I think there was a controversy about unsolicited mails | Sep 16 08:15 |
| schestowitz__ | he's accused of thing | Sep 16 08:15 |
| schestowitz__ | which he denies | Sep 16 08:15 |
| Ariadne | joejobbing in debian is not unheard of | Sep 16 08:15 |
| schestowitz__ | I reposted the article | Sep 16 08:16 |
| Ariadne | honestly, debian is a quite unhealthy project | Sep 16 08:16 |
| schestowitz__ | and the focus on the debian-private misrepresentation is clear | Sep 16 08:16 |
| schestowitz__ | mjg and I have fought for a decade | Sep 16 08:16 |
| Ariadne | and that is why alpine became a serious thing instead of just a toy distribution made by ncopa :) | Sep 16 08:16 |
| schestowitz__ | online, not offline, he left many comments in techrights | Sep 16 08:16 |
| schestowitz__ | he's just using that as an excuse to attack a site that criticised him countless times before | Sep 16 08:16 |
| schestowitz__ | e.g. http://techrights.org/2014/03/25/uefi-secure-boot-and-fsf/ | Sep 16 08:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | My Disagreement With the FSF Over UEFI ‘Secure Boot’ | Techrights | Sep 16 08:17 | |
| schestowitz__ | and http://techrights.org/2015/10/07/forking-with-hypocrisy/ | Sep 16 08:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Hypocrite Forks the Linux Kernel Because of Cultural Characteristics That He Himself is Guilty of | Techrights | Sep 16 08:17 | |
| schestowitz__ | imho, he lost the battle over facts and messages, as what we wrote on this speaks for itself, including ooxml/uefi 'secure boot' analogies. He usually flees the debate. | Sep 16 08:18 |
| schestowitz__ | so the perfect bait is, try to paint the other side as impolite and grotesque. On the race aspect we're hard to defame, so they try the gender/sex/women's rights/feminism aspects a lot | Sep 16 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | hey, I'm 40 in 2 years | Sep 16 08:20 |
| schestowitz__ | so soon I'll fit in perfectly with the "while middle-aged male" stigma | Sep 16 08:20 |
| schestowitz__ | :0-) | Sep 16 08:20 |
| Ariadne | UEFI is badly designed, but no worse than BIOS. UEFI is basically NIH version of openfirmware | Sep 16 08:21 |
| schestowitz__ | we focus on 'secure' boot | Sep 16 08:22 |
| Ariadne | i think secure boot is worthwhile (to the extent one can consider UEFI "secure", mind -- the whole thing is badly designed) | Sep 16 08:22 |
| schestowitz__ | although tbh I can criticise other aspects of uefi | Sep 16 08:22 |
| schestowitz__ | though that would disrract from the primary issue | Sep 16 08:22 |
| Ariadne | i like the fact that i can shut off my laptop and if customs has tampered with it, i will theoretically know | Sep 16 08:22 |
| schestowitz__ | intel board phoned me about it | Sep 16 08:22 |
| Ariadne | but, that is because i have coreboot instead of UEFI | Sep 16 08:22 |
| schestowitz__ | to have a conference call, they still left me unconvinced | Sep 16 08:22 |
| schestowitz__ | Ariadne: there are also risks | Sep 16 08:23 |
| Ariadne | you can't really have secure boot unless you can audit the firmware all the way from bringup | Sep 16 08:23 |
| schestowitz__ | and we know who holds the keys | Sep 16 08:23 |
| Ariadne | schestowitz__: on my machine, *I* hold the keys | Sep 16 08:23 |
| schestowitz__ | you | Sep 16 08:23 |
| schestowitz__ | not most people | Sep 16 08:23 |
| schestowitz__ | when people buy a machine from the shelf | Sep 16 08:23 |
| Ariadne | yes, and i would argue for those cases, they don't really have "secure" boot | Sep 16 08:24 |
| schestowitz__ | but we're drifting away from the main point, which is, mgj has beef with us | Sep 16 08:24 |
| Ariadne | because they don't control the root trust anchor | Sep 16 08:24 |
| schestowitz__ | he also knows I don't do twitter anymore | Sep 16 08:24 |
| schestowitz__ | yet each day he's trolling me to justify in twitter what he accuses me of | Sep 16 08:25 |
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| schestowitz__ | Ariadne: we need simpler computing in general | Sep 16 08:25 |
| schestowitz__ | not being anarchic or anything, but complexity brings about issues | Sep 16 08:25 |
| Ariadne | well to do that with cryptographic attestation, you have to have some third-party controlling keys | Sep 16 08:26 |
| schestowitz__ | until earlier this year I was using bare openbox | Sep 16 08:26 |
| schestowitz__ | Ariadne: I don't want third parties | Sep 16 08:26 |
| Ariadne | the only way to have real trusted boot is to control all keys | Sep 16 08:26 |
| schestowitz__ | sell me a machine | Sep 16 08:26 |
| schestowitz__ | then it's mine | Sep 16 08:26 |
| schestowitz__ | "piss off, thank you very MUNCH!" | Sep 16 08:26 |
| Ariadne | well, that is how my honeycomb works and also how talos works | Sep 16 08:26 |
| Ariadne | if you want to enable cryptographically attested boot, you set it up yourself | Sep 16 08:27 |
| schestowitz__ | is it a laptop at all? | Sep 16 08:27 |
| schestowitz__ | talos | Sep 16 08:27 |
| Ariadne | no, those are desktops :( | Sep 16 08:27 |
| schestowitz__ | if not, make a good lock and key | Sep 16 08:27 |
| schestowitz__ | and then you're covered | Sep 16 08:27 |
| schestowitz__ | no need for virtual keys of some "third party" | Sep 16 08:27 |
| schestowitz__ | unless you run about with a talos hooked to a diesel generator | Sep 16 08:27 |
| Ariadne | yes, the primary benefit to cryptographically attested boot is laptops | Sep 16 08:28 |
| Ariadne | to protect against e.g. evil maid | Sep 16 08:28 |
| schestowitz__ | yet they put this on everything | Sep 16 08:28 |
| schestowitz__ | my laptops never leave the home | Sep 16 08:28 |
| schestowitz__ | and I'd probably know if my home was raided while I was out | Sep 16 08:28 |
| Ariadne | it's also relevant on servers | Sep 16 08:28 |
| Ariadne | if you are processing personal data, cryptographic attested boot is probably a good thing to implement | Sep 16 08:29 |
| schestowitz__ | but the intruder does not need to reboot | Sep 16 08:29 |
| schestowitz__ | he or she can plug in a device | Sep 16 08:29 |
| schestowitz__ | and suck in anything, given physical access | Sep 16 08:29 |
| Ariadne | you can lock down USB | Sep 16 08:29 |
| schestowitz__ | nothing uefi does to prevent this | Sep 16 08:29 |
| Ariadne | in linux kernel | Sep 16 08:29 |
| schestowitz__ | ok, so lock down usb | Sep 16 08:30 |
| schestowitz__ | no need for uefi 'secure boot' | Sep 16 08:30 |
| schestowitz__ | (which would have done nothing about it regardless) | Sep 16 08:30 |
| Ariadne | there is. you want to make sure an intruder does not disable the lockdown. | Sep 16 08:30 |
| Ariadne | it is possible to seal things like kernel configuration into the TPM. | Sep 16 08:30 |
| schestowitz__ | like contract-tracing, it's "give us power" so "we can protect you" | Sep 16 08:30 |
| schestowitz__ | in reality you just give control to some shitty parties | Sep 16 08:30 |
| schestowitz__ | which are more often than not want to harm you than protect you (when you need it, e.g. 5th am) | Sep 16 08:31 |
| schestowitz__ | so don't give them data and control | Sep 16 08:31 |
| schestowitz__ | or keys etc. | Sep 16 08:31 |
| schestowitz__ | or take their "tech" | Sep 16 08:31 |
| schestowitz__ | tpm... ibm... consider what regime it serves | Sep 16 08:31 |
| schestowitz__ | duterte, trump etc. | Sep 16 08:31 |
| Ariadne | the TPM in my laptop serves me | Sep 16 08:32 |
| schestowitz__ | they don't want real server security | Sep 16 08:32 |
| schestowitz__ | they want military/dod contracts | Sep 16 08:32 |
| schestowitz__ | to bomb people | Sep 16 08:32 |
| Ariadne | the TPM on your server also serves me | Sep 16 08:32 |
| schestowitz__ | to better secure drone operations etc. | Sep 16 08:32 |
| schestowitz__ | how very commendable :-) | Sep 16 08:32 |
| Ariadne | (this is not an endorsement of UEFI, mind you) | Sep 16 08:32 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLoIcdIu_Kk | Sep 16 08:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-TCPA - Trusted Computing Platform Alliance - YouTube | Sep 16 08:33 | |
| schestowitz__ | (FSF iirc) | Sep 16 08:33 |
| Ariadne | UEFI, like I said, is basically an NIH'd version of IEEE1275 open firmware | Sep 16 08:33 |
| schestowitz__ | anyway, again, this is a distraction and diversion from the main issue | Sep 16 08:34 |
| schestowitz__ | which is mgj looking for dirt | Sep 16 08:35 |
| schestowitz__ | irrespective of his attacks on rms, torvalds, and others | Sep 16 08:35 |
| Ariadne | anyway, the original trusted computing stuff lead by microsoft was largely a joke | Sep 16 08:35 |
| Ariadne | but the concept is useful in some scenarios | Sep 16 08:35 |
| Ariadne | for example, TPM ensures that some jackass at the colo can't figure out that your server is in the DC where they work and then mess with the server for their own amusement | Sep 16 08:36 |
| schestowitz__ | it all boils down to real trust | Sep 16 08:36 |
| schestowitz__ | they can vandalise the server physically in lots of ways | Sep 16 08:36 |
| schestowitz__ | all this digital thing is like "gentleman's agreement" | Sep 16 08:36 |
| Ariadne | sure, but that just results in DoS | Sep 16 08:36 |
| schestowitz__ | "please, sir, that is not a polite to wave a baseball bat!" | Sep 16 08:37 |
| Ariadne | the TPM prevents them from rooting you and defacing the site | Sep 16 08:37 |
| Ariadne | :) | Sep 16 08:37 |
| Ariadne | (well, not alone it doesn't) | Sep 16 08:37 |
| schestowitz__ | if you don't control the DC you don't control everything | Sep 16 08:37 |
| schestowitz__ | it's a mirage | Sep 16 08:37 |
| schestowitz__ | but with upload speeds like mine I cannot run these sites | Sep 16 08:37 |
| schestowitz__ | they're like over a megabyte of traffic upstream per second | Sep 16 08:38 |
| schestowitz__ | and you end up relying on things close to backbones | Sep 16 08:38 |
| Ariadne | well, i happen to physically control the new DC | Sep 16 08:38 |
| Ariadne | :) | Sep 16 08:38 |
| schestowitz__ | and you control them less than your government does | Sep 16 08:38 |
| schestowitz__ | and my gov is run by the US | Sep 16 08:38 |
| schestowitz__ | as the Assange case now serves to reaffirm... it's comical at times | Sep 16 08:38 |
| Ariadne | haha especially now after brexit | Sep 16 08:38 |
| schestowitz__ | Like the judge is a satellite of the Trump regime | Sep 16 08:38 |
| Ariadne | we pretty much have the UK by the balls | Sep 16 08:38 |
| Ariadne | :D | Sep 16 08:38 |
| schestowitz__ | we have a trade deal with japan... same as the old one ;:) | Sep 16 08:39 |
| schestowitz__ | I used to work in MCC | Sep 16 08:39 |
| Ariadne | yeah 2kg of blue cheese for the right to import hondas without tariffs | Sep 16 08:39 |
| schestowitz__ | JANET's heart | Sep 16 08:39 |
| Ariadne | :P | Sep 16 08:39 |
| schestowitz__ | back when we paid extra for trans-Atlantic traffic | Sep 16 08:40 |
| schestowitz__ | and had to buy quota for more bandwidth | Sep 16 08:40 |
| Ariadne | i'm sorry but brexit was probably the stupidest thing the UK has ever done | Sep 16 08:41 |
| schestowitz__ | I know | Sep 16 08:41 |
| schestowitz__ | I wasted 4 years fighting against it | Sep 16 08:41 |
| schestowitz__ | as did many others | Sep 16 08:41 |
| Ariadne | but the US i am sure appreciates that you brexited | Sep 16 08:42 |
| schestowitz__ | Trump does | Sep 16 08:42 |
| schestowitz__ | Obama campaigned against it | Sep 16 08:42 |
| Ariadne | yeah | Sep 16 08:42 |
| schestowitz__ | The US also likes the EU | Sep 16 08:42 |
| Ariadne | yeah | Sep 16 08:42 |
| Ariadne | well | Sep 16 08:42 |
| schestowitz__ | The EU lets the US extend control to more European countries | Sep 16 08:42 |
| schestowitz__ | inc. east Europe | Sep 16 08:42 |
| Ariadne | trump likes it because he feels he can just bend the UK over and extract whatever trade deal he wants | Sep 16 08:42 |
| schestowitz__ | Ukraine for example | Sep 16 08:42 |
| Ariadne | ;) | Sep 16 08:42 |
| Ariadne | and the sad thing is | Sep 16 08:43 |
| Ariadne | he can :) | Sep 16 08:43 |
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| Ariadne | Obama campaigned against it because he wanted to see the UK thrive, not get completely dominated by the US | Sep 16 08:43 |
| Ariadne | unfortunately, that is what will happen now :) | Sep 16 08:43 |
| Ariadne | this is good for US, bad for UK :p | Sep 16 08:44 |
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| schestowitz__ | who in the US? | Sep 16 08:44 |
| schestowitz__ | Big Business? | Sep 16 08:44 |
| Ariadne | yeah | Sep 16 08:44 |
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| schestowitz__ | chlorinated chicken | Sep 16 08:44 |
| schestowitz__ | good thing we're going veg | Sep 16 08:44 |
| schestowitz__ | GMO also | Sep 16 08:45 |
| schestowitz__ | but EU isn't against GMO | Sep 16 08:45 |
| schestowitz__ | Germany (Bayer) bought Monsanto | Sep 16 08:45 |
| Ariadne | chlorinated chicken is harmless | Sep 16 08:46 |
| Ariadne | problem is that chlorinated chicken may have a low quality processing pipeline | Sep 16 08:46 |
| Ariadne | the thing is | Sep 16 08:48 |
| Ariadne | in EU they have mostly squashed salmonella | Sep 16 08:48 |
| Ariadne | in the US, we just don't care and tell people to properly cook the damn chickens | Sep 16 08:48 |
| Ariadne | i wouldn't order any US chicken "rare" for example :) | Sep 16 08:48 |
| schestowitz__ | it can spread to other things | Sep 16 08:54 |
| schestowitz__ | which is why they wrap it like they do and won't sell (throw away) if the seal is broken... happened to us | Sep 16 08:54 |
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| Chaekyung | opsy https://linuxreviews.org/images/d/d0/Unfriendly_attitude.jpg | Sep 16 08:57 |
| *Chaekyung asked the RMS the wrong questions | Sep 16 08:57 | |
| schestowitz__ | what question | Sep 16 08:58 |
| schestowitz__ | show the context | Sep 16 08:59 |
| schestowitz__ | also, he's under no obligation to answer any random stranger or be shamed for not wanting to. He was trolled a lot by 4chan troll for "shits and giggles"... whom he answered. | Sep 16 08:59 |
| Ariadne | lolz | Sep 16 09:00 |
| Chaekyung | https://linuxreviews.org/Richard_Stallman/Questions_September_2020 | Sep 16 09:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxreviews.org | Richard Stallman/Questions September 2020 - LinuxReviews | Sep 16 09:00 | |
| Chaekyung | schestowitz__: It's a bit sad because he's answered some interesting questions for articles in the past | Sep 16 09:01 |
| Ariadne | you know | Sep 16 09:01 |
| Ariadne | reading through https://www.hsa.org.uk/electrical-stunning/electrical-stunning is making me reconsider the whole "not being a vegetarian" thing | Sep 16 09:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hsa.org.uk | Electrical Stunning - Humane Slaughter Association | Sep 16 09:02 | |
| schestowitz__ | Chaekyung: very long list of questions | Sep 16 09:02 |
| schestowitz__ | and you're not a large newspaper or something which would make it worth his time, he would likely believe | Sep 16 09:02 |
| schestowitz__ | he'd respond if it was The Economist or something... | Sep 16 09:02 |
| Ariadne | however, my choosing to not purchase meat would not stop meat producers from producing meat | Sep 16 09:02 |
| Ariadne | sooooo | Sep 16 09:02 |
| schestowitz__ | it would reduce the incentive | Sep 16 09:03 |
| schestowitz__ | rianne no longer eats any meat | Sep 16 09:03 |
| schestowitz__ | she leapt ahead of me | Sep 16 09:03 |
| schestowitz__ | we planned to do this together, reducing the amount each year until 0 | Sep 16 09:03 |
| schestowitz__ | now I'd buy meat only if it's discounted 75% or more | Sep 16 09:03 |
| schestowitz__ | which means it becomes grossly unprofitable to sell | Sep 16 09:04 |
| schestowitz__ | we also move to soy drinks, where possible | Sep 16 09:04 |
| schestowitz__ | unless the milk is sold at a massive loss | Sep 16 09:04 |
| schestowitz__ | Ariadne: http://techrights.org/2020/06/29/meathub/ | Sep 16 09:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The MeatHub | Techrights | Sep 16 09:04 | |
| schestowitz__ | picture taken from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iZDah_n2zY | Sep 16 09:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Janet Street-Porter takes her calves to the slaughter house - Gordon Ramsay - YouTube | Sep 16 09:05 | |
| schestowitz__ | (don't click if you like animals) | Sep 16 09:05 |
| schestowitz__ | Chaekyung: I've just reread the questions and linked to the page | Sep 16 09:06 |
| schestowitz__ | minor point is, having jpop/kpop in the side bar and having unsavoury comments assigned to pages might be a major turn-off to many | Sep 16 09:07 |
| Ariadne | in other news, we are considering using AGPL for a system component at work | Sep 16 09:14 |
| Ariadne | our main competitor (Cumulus) have been cut off from BCM SDK | Sep 16 09:14 |
| Ariadne | we are making our own SDK for BCM silicon ... | Sep 16 09:14 |
| Ariadne | we do not wish for Cumulus to use our work :)))) | Sep 16 09:14 |
| schestowitz__ | they're very big | Sep 16 09:14 |
| Ariadne | who, cumulus? | Sep 16 09:15 |
| Ariadne | cumulus are part of nvidia now | Sep 16 09:15 |
| schestowitz__ | ah | Sep 16 09:15 |
| Ariadne | that is why BCM cut them off from documentation | Sep 16 09:15 |
| Ariadne | nvidia competes directly with BCM (they own mellanox) | Sep 16 09:15 |
| Ariadne | i mean BCM are dicks, but i can understand not wanting to share your secret sauce with a direct competitor | Sep 16 09:16 |
| Ariadne | the SDK itself is open source (under a mix of licenses, GPL, Apache-2 and for hardware-facing components, a license that allows unrestricted use when running on their chips) | Sep 16 09:17 |
| Ariadne | but the docs are not publicly available | Sep 16 09:17 |
| schestowitz__ | many slap them on Microsoft servers | Sep 16 09:18 |
| schestowitz__ | proprietary github | Sep 16 09:18 |
| schestowitz__ | and then say, "look! we're open!" | Sep 16 09:18 |
| schestowitz__ | open api etc. | Sep 16 09:18 |
| Ariadne | oh, the SDK is fully open source | Sep 16 09:20 |
| Ariadne | all the code is there, and the licenses allow redistribution | Sep 16 09:21 |
| Ariadne | (to customers who have broadcom silicon anyway) | Sep 16 09:21 |
| Ariadne | (but it's useless in any other context anyway) | Sep 16 09:22 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/09/15/25-trillion-theft-study-shows-richest-1-americans-have-taken-50-trillion-bottom-90 | Sep 16 09:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | '$2.5 Trillion Theft': Study Shows Richest 1% of Americans Have Taken $50 Trillion From Bottom 90% in Recent Decades | Common Dreams News | Sep 16 09:29 | |
| schestowitz__ | looting | Sep 16 09:29 |
| schestowitz__ | the real looters | Sep 16 09:29 |
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| oiaohm | Ariadne: the SDK is useful at times for those setting up qemu to emulate broadcom silicon to a point. | Sep 16 10:48 |
| oiaohm | so not always people with broadcom silicon. | Sep 16 10:48 |
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| oiaohm | darn the pinephone is serousally turning into OS choice | Sep 16 10:54 |
| schestowitz__ | phones shouldn't be considered a good choice | Sep 16 11:06 |
| schestowitz__ | contrariwise, some people want to not make it a choice but IMPOSE it on people | Sep 16 11:06 |
| schestowitz__ | paypal emailed me the other day | Sep 16 11:06 |
| schestowitz__ | they want to mandate phone for authontication soon | Sep 16 11:07 |
| schestowitz__ | I assume they can also landline however | Sep 16 11:07 |
| schestowitz__ | *so | Sep 16 11:07 |
| schestowitz__ | *also do | Sep 16 11:07 |
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| schestowitz__ | Twitter quit working with my landline | Sep 16 11:09 |
| schestowitz__ | like, it wouldn't do a test call | Sep 16 11:09 |
| schestowitz__ | so I assume they try to phase it out | Sep 16 11:09 |
| schestowitz__ | forcing all useds [sic] to have "mobile" and install "app" (for ads, spying on location etc.) | Sep 16 11:10 |
| zoobab | this one is really insulting: | Sep 16 11:31 |
| zoobab | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1306176866378801154 | Sep 16 11:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @PatentTruth @uspto Not sure programmers can celebrate. Software patents are an insult to our profession, and are n… https://t.co/V1vXKKNmp4 | Sep 16 11:31 | |
| zoobab | On "Programmer's day", the USPTO tweets about the first software patent | Sep 16 11:31 |
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| kingoffrance | yes ive noticed fast food / grocery stores etc. all assume you have a phone to scan barcodes for coupons/etc. | Sep 16 12:56 |
| kingoffrance | phasing out coins too | Sep 16 12:56 |
| kingoffrance | and they hope all "cash" | Sep 16 12:56 |
| kingoffrance | i should say "coins" but yeah | Sep 16 12:57 |
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| kingoffrance | this has gone on a while i guess -- stores with apps | Sep 16 12:58 |
| kingoffrance | everyone 24/7 gpsed i suppose | Sep 16 12:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gist.github.com | iOS, The Future Of macOS, Freedom, Security And Privacy In An Increasingly Hostile Global Environment · GitHub | Sep 16 13:57 | |
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| schestowitz__ | [11:31] <zoobab> On "Programmer's day", the USPTO tweets about the first software patent | Sep 16 17:15 |
| schestowitz__ | zoobab: that's not a USPTO account | Sep 16 17:15 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I'm considering upping the deposit on that card to enough to raise the credit line to enough to pay my rent. | Sep 16 19:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Those points could add up fast. | Sep 16 19:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | LOL | Sep 16 19:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | kingoffrance: I challenged that $10,000 Capital One card they charged off and sold to a collection. | Sep 16 19:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | (Before the bankruptcy) | Sep 16 19:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Since they didn't own the account anymore and the collection agency hadn't had it long enough to change the information over, it fell off, raising my credit score 9 points. | Sep 16 19:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Now that I know that, I'm going to dispute two more high balance ones that were in that situation. | Sep 16 19:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They won't be able to confirm it and my score will go up some more. | Sep 16 19:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's possible I might take out half of them or more. Each one that makes the total balance of bankrupted accounts look smaller makes the bankruptcy less damaging. | Sep 16 20:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Best to start with Transunion because that's the one most landlords check. | Sep 16 20:03 |
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| zoobab | good catch | Sep 16 21:07 |
| zoobab | I am trying to understand how they can get the UPC running, even if they use VCLT 31.3 after the treaty is running | Sep 16 21:07 |
| zoobab | or they will just shout "the UPC is entering into force!" | Sep 16 21:09 |
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| schestowitz__ | MinceR: if only all cats were vegan... | Sep 16 22:40 |
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| MinceR | schestowitz__: i doubt any of them are | Sep 16 22:44 |
| MinceR | they're obligate carnivores | Sep 16 22:44 |
| MinceR | that is, there are some nutrients they can only obtain from eating animals | Sep 16 22:45 |
| schestowitz__ | yes, I know | Sep 16 22:47 |
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| MinceR | http://ffn.nodwick.com/?p=1929 | Sep 16 23:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ffn.nodwick.com | Full Frontal Nerdity by Aaron Williams - 05/30/2019 | Sep 16 23:53 | |
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