●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, October 16, 2022 ●● ● Oct 16 [00:00] Helenah starstreak: My genome is in research labs though. [00:00] reptilian_thrills mick jagger too [00:00] schestowitz[TR] well, they had to leave, MAGA 2024 was annexing places [00:00] schestowitz[TR] to "denazify" Canda [00:00] reptilian_thrills oh yes, the trucker convoy [00:00] reptilian_thrills at least one of them was an actual trucker [00:00] starstreak that convoy pissed me off [00:01] schestowitz[TR] i'm not a trcuker, my name is just TUCKER [00:01] starstreak i did find a good twitch stream covering many feeds at once [00:01] schestowitz[TR] with rhotic R [00:01] starstreak i was hoping to see cops beating up the trucker convoy but it almost never happened [00:01] reptilian_thrills the cops were sympathetic [00:01] frog in oasis linux, there is still lynx browser missing for example, i wouldn't have this anymore at least [00:02] reptilian_thrills which is so stupid [00:02] starstreak the cops were sympathetic <- exactly [00:02] frog and the re-integration costs over there in oasis are high [00:02] reptilian_thrills acab [00:02] frog because both the packaging AND the build-system have to be re-written and tested [00:02] starstreak if it was a left wing protest, cops would be beating people up all the time [00:03] reptilian_thrills they were going through rubbish and food pantries trying to find somethign to eat [00:03] schestowitz[TR] their sole contribution was, they helped the media tie "antivaxxers" and alt-right [00:03] reptilian_thrills because walking into stores and restaurants with a mask on would defeat their whole message [00:03] reptilian_thrills and the stores and restaurants would have none of this shit [00:04] frog anyway, once GNU and whoever else settled their trans-homo-mysogonist problems there is alot of other problems to discuss [00:04] Helenah reptilian_thrills: My red hair :3 https://files.catbox.moe/q53hwp.jpg [00:04] frog inlcuding the linux kernel version rollback i consider mandatory [00:04] reptilian_thrills they helped the media tie "antivaxxers" and alt-right <- i think that link was already established [00:04] reptilian_thrills but you may be right about the media making it a thing [00:05] starstreak i think its true [00:05] frog schestowitz[TR]: what an armada of madmen is this who joined here recently? starstreak Helenah reptilian_thrills ? [00:05] frog are those any people involved with any relevant free software development? [00:05] schestowitz[TR] Helenah: recent? [00:05] Helenah frog: You calling me mad? o.O [00:05] Helenah schestowitz[TR]: No [00:05] reptilian_thrills reptilian_thrills: My red hair :3 https://files.catbox.moe/q53hwp.jpg <- how old are you? [00:06] Helenah I haven't joined as of recently, I've been here a while now. [00:06] schestowitz[TR] about 11000 nhs workers also turned down that AZ vaccine [00:06] Helenah I don't even feel new anymore. [00:06] schestowitz[TR] 110000 [00:06] starstreak I've been here a while too. [00:06] schestowitz[TR] not 11000 [00:06] Helenah schestowitz[TR]: Why? [00:06] Helenah reptilian_thrills: 28 [00:07] reptilian_thrills reptilian_thrills: 28 <- ah ok [00:07] starstreak are those any people involved with any relevant free software development? <- yeah, i develop MyBoobs [00:07] frog Helenah: what would i know? you joined here, to complain about boobs and trans and whatnot. [00:07] schestowitz[TR] I thought you were about the median age here [00:07] reptilian_thrills some of your posts made you sound (much) older, ill have to adjust my picture now [00:07] Helenah frog: What? [00:07] Helenah That's confusing... [00:07] schestowitz[TR] going by guesswork [00:07] Helenah Why would I join a tech channel to complain about boobs and trans people? [00:08] Helenah o.O [00:08] Helenah That's... weird and unfounded... [00:08] frog i thought this was a channel to talk about free software and and things [00:08] starstreak I'm trans and I have boobs [00:08] schestowitz[TR] frog: funny that you are the one complasining [00:08] schestowitz[TR] after posting xenophobic things here [00:08] Helenah frog: I got the impression not long after joining that people seem to talk about anything anyway. [00:09] Helenah But I certainly joined here to talk about what the name suggests... [00:09] Helenah It makes no sense to go into #banana to talk about pears, does it? [00:09] schestowitz[TR] there is a communbity element [00:09] schestowitz[TR] and the topic [00:09] schestowitz[TR] I link to blogs of people who are here [00:09] schestowitz[TR] even non-tech stuff [00:09] frog schestowitz[TR]: i am not a transphob [00:09] frog or gayophob or whatever [00:10] schestowitz[TR] I said "xenophobic" [00:10] Helenah Who called you a transphobe? o.O [00:10] frog you're nazophob [00:10] schestowitz[TR] no [00:10] Helenah o.O [00:10] schestowitz[TR] you're a naziphile [00:10] *Helenah is confused [00:10] starstreak Helenah, frog is a literal nazi [00:11] frog this is what you're saying, not me [00:11] frog i want to remove GNU toolchain and GNU buildsystem only [00:11] Helenah starstreak: Well someone on IRC got to meet my uncle [00:11] Helenah and he called my uncle a nazi to which I said "100% agree with you" :D [00:11] TR News "I've noticed an interesting trend on some of the blogs I follow. More of them - though by no means the majority - are including audio versions of the content." https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2022/10/blog-to-speech/ [00:11] Helenah haha [00:11] TR Bot Blog To Speech Terence Edens Blog [00:12] TR News "The 300 bps modem requires a data/parity/stop configuration of 7 bits, 1 even parity bit, and 1 stop bit (7E1), so I had to add support to Subtext to allow configuring these settings rather than hard-coding the usual 8N1. I also had to set the modem's initialization string to use a Bell answer tone (ATB1)." https://jcs.org/2022/10/02/whisper_writer [00:12] TR Bot BBSing at 300 Bits Per Second - joshua stein [00:13] starstreak Helenah, lol [00:13] TR News Its the same guy: the PR guy, the Murdoch scribe and the bouncer at the weapons fair! https://michaelwest.com.au/land-forces-2022-amda-pr-murdoch-scribe-and-bouncer-at-the-weapons-fair/ [00:13] TR Bot It's the same guy: the PR guy, the Murdoch scribe and the bouncer at the weapons fair! - Michael West [00:13] Helenah I don't like most of my family nor do I love them, I am 0% compatible with them and it doesn't make me sad. [00:14] TR News "But what should we do instead about illegal images of minors, and about violent online political extremism? More local policing would be better; we explain why. This is informed by our work on the link between violent extremism and misogyny, as well as our analysis of a similar proposal in the EU." https://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2022/10/04/the-online-safety-bill-reboot-it-or-shoot-it/ [00:14] TR Bot ( status 503 @ https://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2022/10/04/the-online-safety-bill-reboot-it-or-shoot-it/ ) [00:14] schestowitz[TR] Helenah: good for you [00:15] schestowitz[TR] sometimes happiness comes from not trying to impress people who don;t deserve it [00:15] schestowitz[TR] so you can get on with life [00:15] Helenah I am happy :D [00:15] schestowitz[TR] good [00:17] Helenah reptilian_thrills: I know my blood type because my body itself told me it. [00:17] reptilian_thrills my body itself told me it. <- how so? [00:17] Helenah reptilian_thrills: The genome [00:17] reptilian_thrills oh right [00:18] Helenah I'm O negative [00:18] reptilian_thrills like the band? [00:18] reptilian_thrills that guy is actually b-positive and its such a scandal [00:19] schestowitz[TR] genome3 sucks [00:19] reptilian_thrills gee, gnome [00:19] Helenah OB0 and RHAG genes [00:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [00:20] Helenah AB0 sorry [00:20] schestowitz[TR] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ABO_blood_group_system [00:20] TR Bot ABO blood group system - Wikipedia [00:20] Helenah schestowitz[TR]: Yep [00:21] schestowitz[TR] not https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_O_Negative [00:21] TR Bot Type O Negative - Wikipedia [00:21] Helenah I'll have to get you the data next time I'm at a more powerful machine. [00:22] schestowitz[TR] im put my brain data online [00:22] schestowitz[TR] almost 20 years ago [00:22] schestowitz[TR] in dicom [00:22] *sonde (~sonde@f6kehdj2447n8.irc) has joined #techrights [00:23] schestowitz[TR] hi sonde [00:23] *psydruid likes Type O Negative [00:24] Helenah dicom is the format of my imaging, schestowitz[TR] [00:24] Helenah My main system has a dicom viewer installed. [00:25] reptilian_thrills im not sure i understand this [00:25] Helenah along with a load of genomic programs and a bunch of other stuff on there too. [00:25] reptilian_thrills you sequence your own genome or something? [00:25] reptilian_thrills youre a geneticist? [00:25] Helenah reptilian_thrills: I requested a copy of my genome which had already been sequenced. [00:25] sonde Hey schestowitz[TR] [00:25] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@hi99dmvtfyew8.irc) has joined #techrights [00:26] DaemonFC Okay, I just used Internet Explorer to add myself to the new insurance policies. [00:26] Helenah o.O [00:26] DaemonFC God....flashing text and everything. ActiveX. [00:26] Helenah They use ActiveX in 2022?! [00:26] Helenah I think you're telling lies like you always do. [00:27] DaemonFC It's like you're initiating a nuclear missile launch. [00:27] reptilian_thrills its called zurex now <- guessing [00:27] DaemonFC I'd give you a screen shot. [00:27] Helenah No [00:27] reptilian_thrills azurex [00:27] DaemonFC But it contains sensitive information. [00:27] Helenah I've heard enough of your bullshit [00:27] Helenah since I first came here [00:27] Helenah That I don't even know what's truth and what's lies anymore. [00:27] Helenah And that's on you. [00:27] reptilian_thrills That I don't even know what's truth and what's lies anymore. <- thats a major hazard here [00:28] Helenah Ah [00:28] DaemonFC This is the one part where Walmart's Web site needs Internet Explorer Mode. [00:28] DaemonFC Is the beneficiary part. [00:28] Helenah I don't believe you. [00:28] reptilian_thrills you almost have to be columbo to make any sense of this place [00:28] Helenah They used to own Asda [00:28] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], You believe me, right? [00:28] Helenah and Asda never required ActiveX anywhere on their website [00:29] DaemonFC Internet Explorer Mode to access Beneficiary Online at Walmart. [00:29] frog i am happily living with w3m browser for almost 1year, and before i had used only netsurf besides... didn't miss anything at all in 2years now [00:29] Helenah So why would I believe you over a website I've experienced for myself? [00:29] reptilian_thrills in fairness, if you aquire asda, you dont necessarily upgrade all their it stuff [00:29] reptilian_thrills they might keep their old it for a while [00:29] frog no activex, no advertisements, no videos, no annoyance, it's all gone [00:29] TR News "On desktop, Pixel Wheels kind-of supported the XDG Base Directory spec in that it saved its config to $HOME/.config, data to $HOME/.local/share/pixelwheels and logs to $HOME/.cache/pixelwheels. But it did not support the XDG environment variables to override these directories. It does now." https://agateau.com/2022/09-update/ [00:29] TR Bot 2022 monthly update | agateau.com [00:30] Helenah reptilian_thrills: It's just that I don't believe them and never can. [00:30] reptilian_thrills who? [00:30] Helenah I mean people are to be taken with a pinch of salt anyway. [00:30] Helenah DaemonFC [00:30] reptilian_thrills around here it takes more than a pinch [00:30] Helenah but DaemonFC has said soo many conflicting and nonsensical sounding things that well.. ll [00:30] Helenah lol [00:31] frog it's just i am too tired currently, to move lynx browsers to oasis linux for example, and the many other tasks remaining [00:31] Helenah I'd rather listen to say you or schestowitz[TR] or starstreak or whoever, I most likely won't be fed a load of crap that way. [00:31] schestowitz[TR] They used to own Asda [00:31] schestowitz[TR] used to? [00:31] schestowitz[TR] did I miss something? [00:31] Helenah I heard they sold it. [00:31] schestowitz[TR] they tried to also buy sainsburys [00:31] frog and my motivation is rather low, because i do know already, what is feasible and what isn't [00:31] reptilian_thrills hey now you can go to asda :D [00:31] frog because, without GNU toolchain, i couldn't compile any kernel anymore which supports any ARM system [00:32] Helenah Supermarket food is low quality crap anyway [00:32] reptilian_thrills I most likely won't be fed a load of crap that way. <- between the three of us youre definitely in for some interesting times... [00:32] *schestowitz[TR] checks [00:32] Helenah vegetables that should last all year around go off within the fuckin' week... [00:32] Helenah pathetic [00:32] frog and then, i am vendor locked, again, against x86/64... and that's one big show-stopper, which keeps my motivation low [00:32] Helenah I'd rather source from the local farms here around this village... [00:32] Helenah Than get nasty old crap [00:32] DaemonFC https://ibb.co/LCk0CRm [00:32] TR Bot Screenshot-from-2022-10-15-18-29-48 ImgBB [00:33] schestowitz[TR] "els. But it did not support the XDG environment variables " [00:33] DaemonFC Walmart's Beneficiary Online site in Internet Explorer in VirtualBox. [00:33] schestowitz[TR] "OwnerMohsin and Zuber Issa TDR Capital[6] Walmart ("equity" investment)" [00:33] DaemonFC I had to get a copy of this from Microsoft to access this. [00:33] Helenah DaemonFC: I know, I know, you said that like a dozen times! [00:33] schestowitz[TR] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asda [00:33] TR Bot Asda - Wikipedia [00:33] reptilian_thrills xdg clan aint nothin to fuck with! [00:33] frog why invest any more time and efforts into this? [00:33] schestowitz[TR] "Walmart retains "an equity investment" in Asda, a seat on the board and "an ongoing commercial relationship".[11] The deal came after an acquisition by Sainsbury's was rejected by the Competition and Markets Authority.[12][6]' [00:33] reptilian_thrills theyll take out your whole crew [00:33] DaemonFC And VirtualBox didn't want to load in Fedora because they didn't install the most recent kernel-devel and kernel-headers. [00:33] Helenah schestowitz[TR]: Wait, they didn't sell it? o.O [00:34] DaemonFC So I had to pound those in from Koji using DNF, locally. [00:34] Helenah Who the fuck told me that... told you there is too much lies around... [00:34] DaemonFC Then install dkms and akmods and the akmod-virtualbox crap. [00:34] DaemonFC Then reboot. [00:34] DaemonFC Then the Windows 10 VM finally worked. [00:34] schestowitz[TR] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohsin_and_Zuber_Issa [00:34] TR Bot Mohsin and Zuber Issa - Wikipedia [00:34] reptilian_thrills https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Wuv4f-AmKE4 [00:34] TR Bot Thompson Twins - Lies - Invidious [00:34] DaemonFC Why in God's name would I do that if I didn't have to? [00:34] Helenah DaemonFC: Just boycott them! [00:35] DaemonFC He works for them. [00:35] schestowitz[TR] https://corporate.walmart.com/newsroom/2021/02/16/issa-brothers-and-tdr-capital-complete-the-acquisition-of-asda-from-walmart [00:35] TR Bot Issa Brothers and TDR Capital Complete the Acquisition of Asda from Walmart [00:35] Helenah Who works for who? You were talking about insurance [00:35] DaemonFC I have to manage his beneficiary stuff so if anything happens, I get the money instead of MARISOL. [00:35] Helenah go with a different insurance company... [00:35] DaemonFC Who won't spend it on his hospital bills. [00:35] Helenah Oh [00:35] DaemonFC They'd all go to France for a couple weeks on it and then it would be gone. [00:36] schestowitz[TR] what's in france? [00:37] sonde New wave films, cheese. [00:37] schestowitz[TR] shoerack marisol is blopwing away borrowed moneyt o impress people, trying to make her jealous. trauma breaks feeble minds. [00:37] reptilian_thrills trauma breaks all kinds of people roy [00:38] schestowitz[TR] yeah [00:38] schestowitz[TR] she grew up in tondo [00:38] schestowitz[TR] parents died young [00:38] geert nah not necessarily [00:38] geert inability to deal trauma, more often [00:38] schestowitz[TR] but mandy is at least functioning better [00:38] geert i mean so meany people get trauma [00:38] schestowitz[TR] if you don't open up the childhood [00:38] geert who doesnt, more or less [00:38] Helenah geert: It's not always possible deal it depending on severity. [00:38] geert but many dont appear broken [00:38] DaemonFC Dad out beating a dog to death in the backyard.... [00:39] DaemonFC Making all kinds of noises. [00:39] Helenah People can end up with debilitating PSTD requiring a lot of professional help. [00:39] DaemonFC Says, "Dinner!". [00:39] Helenah *PTSD [00:39] geert its not severity that define how properly trauma is dealt with [00:39] geert thats ot the factor [00:39] DaemonFC Their dad was also a pedophile. [00:39] geert oof what a subject [00:39] Helenah Oh not this... [00:39] DaemonFC And they got kidnapped by another one from down the street. [00:39] Helenah DaemonFC: DUDE STOP MAN! [00:39] Helenah WTF [00:39] reptilian_thrills People can end up with debilitating PSTD requiring a lot of professional help. <- many of whom will receive very unprofessional help [00:39] Helenah STFU [00:39] Helenah with the pedo stuff... [00:40] geert well lets not try shun the subject, better [00:40] Helenah Damn it's trendy these days for people to cry rape and accuse others of pedophilia [00:40] geert but its horrific subject [00:40] Helenah DaemonFC: WTF is wrong with you?! [00:40] geert not even b/c tenddencies of some [00:40] DaemonFC The heart attack was the best thing that could have happened. [00:40] schestowitz[TR] Helenah: no, a true story [00:40] geert but more the effects to victims [00:40] DaemonFC I'm glad his dad is dead from what I've heard about him. [00:40] Helenah schestowitz[TR]: And how am I to believe that?! [00:40] schestowitz[TR] the spouse of DaemonFC was molsted as a kid [00:40] DaemonFC I'm sure there's more. [00:40] geert well i dont thin we should shun the subject [00:40] Helenah schestowitz[TR]: And you know DaemonFC in real life? [00:40] schestowitz[TR] no [00:41] geert so no daemonfc im not gona try blame you for not tryna shun the subject [00:41] geert still oof though [00:41] Helenah Seriously it's a trend these days to cry rape and accuse people of pedophilia... I'm not joking! [00:41] schestowitz[TR] he popsted a marriage cert online [00:41] geert well it happens more often than many thing [00:41] geert think* [00:41] schestowitz[TR] pedophilia is a real problem [00:41] DaemonFC Well, telling your kids to grab your dick and jerk you off when they're 4..... [00:41] DaemonFC Is, uh.... What is that? [00:41] Helenah It is a real problem but not when it is lied about, schestowitz[TR] [00:41] DaemonFC Please tell me. [00:41] Helenah instead the lies is the real problem [00:41] schestowitz[TR] and it's not irrational to call out people who are convicted of it [00:42] Helenah What?! [00:42] geert offf thats very disgusted misbehavior [00:42] Helenah Whose to say pedophiles don't have a condition? [00:42] geert not like that [00:42] Helenah Maybe they need help like other people with conditions [00:42] DaemonFC They have a condition which can still be solved for less than one dollar. [00:42] geert but its more the egoism bpart [00:42] DaemonFC Even under Biden, a bullet is less than a dollar. [00:42] DaemonFC And it's the only cure. [00:42] Helenah Does society condemning them really encourage them to go seek that help? [00:42] Helenah Nope, it shames them... [00:43] Helenah Jesus fuck... [00:43] geert if they like something they think they can decide for those who're not fit to decide [00:43] DaemonFC A bullet to the head will totally cure pedophiles and make sure they don't re-offend. [00:43] DaemonFC But we have liberals saying just throw them in county for a month. [00:43] DaemonFC That'll help! [00:43] geert its a egoism part, the lust happens pretty similar in many other occasions too [00:43] schestowitz[TR] Helenah: you once opened up as well [00:43] geert thast not age confined [00:43] Helenah geert: There are what's called "non-offending pedophiles" [00:43] schestowitz[TR] and I don't have reasons to doubt those stories [00:43] Helenah schestowitz[TR]: Really? [00:43] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [00:43] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [00:43] schestowitz[TR] even if it causes palpitation [00:43] Helenah When did I open up about being a pedophile? [00:43] schestowitz[TR] no [00:43] schestowitz[TR] you said you had been reaped by 3 men [00:44] schestowitz[TR] and I believe you [00:44] DaemonFC If people ask me "Would you pull the trigger and execute a pedophile yourself if the law allowed for it?". [00:44] geert Helenah; i dont say that, but they still shouldnt give in to it, where thge egoism stil kicks in so to sspeak [00:44] schestowitz[TR] and the police did not even jail them [00:44] Helenah schestowitz[TR]: Yeah and because DaemonFC has said unbelievable things a fuckton of times... [00:44] Helenah I feel rape could be yet another one of their lies [00:44] DaemonFC I say, "Yeah! As many as you want. Hand me the gun and keep 'em coming." if it were legal and that was their court ordered punishment. [00:44] schestowitz[TR] tondo is not the uk [00:44] Helenah and knowing it's a trend these days to cry rape... [00:44] Helenah I'm pretty fucking upset after knowing what happened to me... [00:44] schestowitz[TR] and some of the things that go on there are ... exceptional [00:44] DaemonFC I don't have a big problem with executions for some kinds of people. [00:45] DaemonFC I think they've forfeited their right to live when they do a thing like that. [00:45] DaemonFC They're a bigger threat to society than what their right to live is worth. [00:45] Helenah schestowitz[TR]: You must understand where I'm coming from here... [00:45] schestowitz[TR] the argument goes [00:45] geert well i dont got problem with it, once very sure and practial application [00:45] geert practical* [00:45] schestowitz[TR] pedophiles cannot be cured [00:45] schestowitz[TR] so some say, [00:45] Helenah People use "rape" as a tool for attention... [00:45] schestowitz[TR] remove their **** [00:45] geert but i rather get them locked up [00:45] schestowitz[TR] some say, execute [00:45] geert liek some mass murders [00:45] geert like* [00:45] schestowitz[TR] or life in prison with hard labour [00:45] geert murderers* [00:46] schestowitz[TR] Helenah: some people do [00:46] geert yea i rasther dont get to kill under disguise of state [00:46] schestowitz[TR] but we cannot generalise [00:46] DaemonFC I don't say this mildly, but there's probably like 3-4 things which should lead to execution as the only punishment to make sure you don't get them in court again. [00:46] geert its not difficult lock people up to their passing away [00:46] Helenah schestowitz[TR]: It can't be cured but my point is the sexual urge is treatable with GnRH agonists. [00:46] schestowitz[TR] that's like saying some people use transphobia as a political schtick [00:46] geert but better not for shit like weed [00:46] schestowitz[TR] but that does not mean transphobia is a real thing [00:46] Helenah ADHD can't be cured, Autism can't be cured, there are a lot of conditions which can't be cured [00:46] geert gime sec i got about drink some beer today [00:46] schestowitz[TR] *is NOT [00:46] Helenah most of which are treatable [00:46] Helenah which is different to curing [00:46] geert and some you pop up with pedo and rape shit [00:46] schestowitz[TR] ADHD can't be cured, Autism can't be cured, there are a lot of conditions which can't be cured [00:47] schestowitz[TR] those ar emostly harmless to other people [00:47] schestowitz[TR] mostly [00:47] DaemonFC There's also a lot of things that I think should be automatically removed from your record either once your punishment is served or within a set number of years. [00:47] geert problem with much 'cured' is that: one party wana cure the other [00:47] geert but thats kind of like 'convicing another' [00:47] geert convincing* [00:47] Helenah schestowitz[TR]: How is a non-offending pedophile who has their sexual urges under control harming others? IT FUCKING ISNT! [00:47] schestowitz[TR] if Autism caused people to molest kids, we'd discuss Autism differently [00:47] Helenah GET OFF THE FUCKING BANDWAGON OF PEOPLE SHAMING THEM! [00:47] geert you cant. these people should wana get convinced themselves [00:47] Helenah You're making me angry [00:47] DaemonFC Minor crimes. Why should people havee to be punished forever with a record when their only punishment was a $1,500 court fine or something? [00:47] DaemonFC I mean it's nuts. [00:47] geert same with 'cure' especially mentally [00:47] geert gime sec though i got about drink beer today [00:47] schestowitz[TR] schestowitz[TR]: How is a non-offending pedophile who has their sexual urges under control harming others? IT FUCKING ISNT! [00:47] Helenah I need a damn smoke... [00:48] schestowitz[TR] I didn't advocate death senstence [00:48] schestowitz[TR] but know some who do [00:48] schestowitz[TR] and some were victims [00:48] schestowitz[TR] second, this is about opffenders [00:48] MinceR 15 223624 < Helenah> Cats shouldn't be on surfaces. [00:48] MinceR flying cats! [00:48] schestowitz[TR] not pedos but actual child rapists [00:48] Helenah Death sentences mean innocent people get killed just by being accused of being guilty... [00:48] schestowitz[TR] like drpizza, bill's pentester [00:48] Helenah and later proven innocent after it's too late [00:48] reptilian_thrills 15 223624 < Helenah> Cats shouldn't be on surfaces. <- a cat surface? [00:49] reptilian_thrills stowitz[TR]: How is a non-offending pedophile who has their sexual urges under control harming others? IT FUCKING ISNT! [00:49] Helenah It doesn't matter how dangerous someone thinks someone else is, killing that person creates problems for the wrongly accused... [00:49] schestowitz[TR] Helenah: in the US the bar for death sentence is very high [00:49] schestowitz[TR] in most states [00:49] DaemonFC First Degree Murder, Rape of a minor, rape with threats of death or severe bodily harm, or actual death or severe bodily harm, and treason. Should all get the death penalty. Immediately. [00:49] reptilian_thrills #techrights : 10/15/22 23:47 <- i think starstreak is the one to ask for a smoke here [00:49] schestowitz[TR] not for the crime [00:49] schestowitz[TR] but the certainty of guilt [00:49] reptilian_thrills in most state <- in texas they got rid of the death penalty for not tipping your hat to a lady [00:49] reptilian_thrills in 2019 [00:49] DaemonFC We used to hang or electrocute people to death for less than what we know Trump did. [00:50] DaemonFC The Rosenbergs were electrocuted side by side for spying for Russia. [00:50] reptilian_thrills thats why you see everyone in texas wearing a hat [00:50] schestowitz[TR] I'm against death sentence [00:50] reptilian_thrills because you get in a whole heap a trouble if you dont have one [00:50] DaemonFC This country has gone soft. [00:50] DaemonFC And we're paying for that. [00:50] Helenah schestowitz[TR]: Same for the reasons I said which are very valid and obvious. [00:50] Helenah It was proven with history. [00:51] geert MinceR :) [00:51] reptilian_thrills historical proof is elusive to most people, who dont give a shit about history [00:51] reptilian_thrills they shouldnt teach history in schools [00:52] geert they will never be able chang the facts [00:52] geert change* [00:52] Helenah Also you need to be careful with who you define a "pedophile" because there are also hebephiles and ephebophiles which people automatically define as pedophiles. [00:52] geert even if they appear smart [00:52] geert at not just pon of history [00:52] geert point of* [00:52] Helenah But it is apparently in a clinical setting important to know the different [00:52] geert NEVER! [00:52] Helenah *difference [00:52] geert they never gona be albe change th facts [00:52] geert able* [00:52] Helenah Because people are attracted to different age groups and just because someone is say attracted to teenagers, doesn't make them attracted to people younger. [00:53] Helenah It's important for statistics and research. [00:53] whitenigga i say off with those niggas heads [00:54] whitenigga all the philes [00:54] Helenah whitenigga: I say you're just being prejudice towards groups of people (pedophiles, hebephiles and ephebophiles), some of which are non-offending, some of which don't want to offend. [00:54] geert atracktion is like perception effect [00:55] Helenah You're putting attacks where they don't need to be. [00:55] geert its suspectible to influence [00:55] geert is that e4ven correct english [00:55] geert MinceR you might get to try look the other way [00:55] geert lel [00:56] geert like hetero sexual, homosexual, paedoor efebo sexual [00:56] geert perception [00:56] geert not dna [00:56] starstreak I had a boss that made lewd comments about young boys [00:56] geert some try shocking [00:56] geert not even sexual [00:56] Helenah starstreak: Doesn't mean he'd touch one though. [00:56] geert than they often want attention [00:57] Helenah But it's room for concern. [00:57] starstreak starstreak: Doesn't mean he'd touch one though. <- fair enough [00:57] reptilian_thrills But it's room for concern. <- also qualifies as workplace harassment [00:57] starstreak But it's room for concern. <- also qualifies as workplace harassment <- thats why I sued him [00:57] geert MinceR i didnt want get fight with you man talking @#$ about decoration [00:58] Helenah Like depending on what someone says about young boys, I may advise they go talk to a professional about it. [00:58] geert maybe you dont get ignore me :/ [00:58] geert yes? [00:58] reptilian_thrills depending on what someone says about young boys, I may advise they go talk to a professional about it. <- depending on what someone considers a suit, i may advise they go talk to a professional about it [00:58] Helenah Honestly I've read research papers on this. [00:59] geert yea me too little bit [00:59] geert its kind of depraved larger effects of egoism [00:59] geert basically [00:59] reptilian_thrills starstreak: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=5IsSpAOD6K8 [00:59] geert even if seem sexual, often its not [00:59] TR Bot Talking Heads - Once in a Lifetime (Official Video) - Invidious [00:59] MinceR 15 225239 < phanes> who is "better" than everyone else? blonde haired, blue eyed aryans? [00:59] Helenah There was also a study that tested how people condemned of "pedophilia" responded to different age groups, it was found some of them weren't even pedophiles but hebephiles or ephebophiles. [00:59] geert however it might be expressed in sexual manner os to speak [00:59] geert so* [00:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 19.53 k/sec., IPFS upstream 76.46 average k/sec., average swarm size 125.21 [00:59] MinceR i doubt such aryans exist ● Oct 16 [01:00] geert well maybe aryans exist but they not better [01:00] geert and doubt dont change that fact [01:00] geert MinceR!! :) [01:00] Helenah and sometimes ephebophilia is socially acceptable. [01:00] Helenah because the age group attraction is 15-19 [01:01] Helenah In the UK for example, you can legally date a 16 year old. [01:01] geert thats more related to whats considered 'adult age' [01:01] Helenah and you wouldn't have broke any laws. [01:01] Helenah geert: Correct [01:01] Helenah age of consent that is called [01:02] Helenah the age of which the law says one is capable of consenting. [01:02] reptilian_thrills they used to discriminate against gays by making the age of consent two years older for same-sex relationships [01:02] geert which doesnt mean 'understood' consent [01:02] reptilian_thrills in the uk [01:02] Helenah geert: Agreed [01:02] reptilian_thrills thats why the bronski beat album is titled "age of consent" [01:02] Helenah the law can be flawed [01:02] geert so often whats considered 'consensus' is rather not always understood [01:02] geert meaning superficial would prefail above seriously consential legally [01:02] geert very very flawed [01:03] Helenah My gf got with me when I was 19, she's 20 years older. [01:03] geert MinceR or maybe it was the 'old' and 'inflexible' wording [01:03] geert MinceR did you get to consider it offensive? [01:03] geert maybe? [01:03] Helenah She's not an ephebophile though, she didn't date me because of my age. [01:03] Helenah and we're 8 years strong now [01:04] geert i thought efebophile is not prepubic but rather start of pubic era ofa person combined with someone whose considerd above 'adult age' i guess?? [01:04] Helenah 15-19, geert [01:04] Helenah ephebophile [01:04] geert efebo is 15-19 at point of age? [01:05] geert hmmm ithink opinion might academically differ on that [01:05] Helenah That's the age group the person has to have sexual attraction to in order to be classified as an ephebophile. [01:05] geert well anyways consential should be as thorough as possible [01:05] Helenah It's fact, not opinion... o.O [01:05] geert and the more kid, the more thats impossible so to speak [01:05] geert i didnt think it was that static [01:06] Helenah It's medically defined... [01:06] geert i though efebo was more referring to just after prepubic, start pubic development to adolescense regarding relation with above considered legally adult age? [01:06] geert thought* [01:06] TR News Machinechat JEDI: What Can It Do? https://www.sparkfun.com/news/5469 https://www.sparkfun.com/news/5467 [01:06] TR Bot JEDI: What Can It Do? - News - SparkFun Electronics [01:06] TR Bot Machinechat With Us! - News - SparkFun Electronics [01:06] geert well i didnt get read too much papers about it [01:06] reptilian_thrills its all greek to me [01:06] Helenah "Ephebophilia is the primary sexual interest in mid-to-late adolescents, generally ages 15 to 19." [01:06] Helenah So generally [01:07] TR News FSOC Warns Crypto is Possible Systemic Risk https://cacm.acm.org/news/265296-fsoc-warns-crypto-is-possible-systemic-risk/fulltext [01:07] TR Bot FSOC Warns Crypto is Possible Systemic Risk | News | Communications of the ACM [01:07] Helenah Basically these are chronophilias which are attractions to age groups. [01:07] geert well consential is gona be flawed without sufficient development anyways [01:08] Helenah Agreed [01:08] Helenah But then... [01:08] geert btw ima gtg in a bit [01:08] Helenah people mature at different rates... [01:08] Helenah While one 13 year old can't consent, another can. [01:08] TR News "Vibrating pads placed on peoples arms can make the illusion of holding light or heavy objects in virtual reality more convincing by making us disregard some inputs from our senses." https://www.newscientist.com/article/2336381-sensory-trick-makes-objects-seem-heavy-or-light-in-virtual-reality/ [01:08] Helenah but it would be hard to prove such. [01:08] TR Bot Sensory trick makes objects seem heavy or light in virtual reality | New Scientist [01:08] geert well experienceget serios influence in that [01:08] geert not really age [01:08] geert more experience [01:08] Helenah It would be hard to prove an individual is mature enough to consent to something. [01:08] geert i think [01:09] Helenah Well there are other things like... [01:09] Helenah WWII [01:09] geert well i tink if they kid like <16 y/o just generally assume they dont get enoug experience [01:09] Helenah young girls were raped by soldiers [01:09] phanes lol centos 8 stream OOB has broken fips mode, at least in london on linode [01:09] Helenah They bled to death [01:09] Helenah Why? Because their bodies were small [01:09] Helenah and they were being penetrated [01:09] Helenah also their vaginal opening hadn't opened [01:09] Helenah and was forced open [01:10] TR News "After I wrote about how Linux NFS clients normally only make one TCP connection to a given fileserver no matter how many NFS mounts they have, people pointed out the 'nconnect' for NFS mounts, as documented in nfs(5)." https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/NFSv3NConnectEffects [01:10] TR Bot Chris's Wiki :: blog/linux/NFSv3NConnectEffects [01:10] Helenah So there are things like this too [01:10] geert french considered it tactis to algerian women while ago [01:10] geert tactics* [01:10] geert horrible stuff such things [01:10] geert nayways ima get going [01:10] Helenah I actually know someone who is attracted to kids btw [01:11] Helenah And she's against having sex with them [01:11] Helenah strongly against having sex with them [01:11] Helenah but she's honest [01:11] Helenah Why should she be condemned for a mere attraction? [01:11] Helenah it's not hurting anyone else! [01:11] Helenah Until she acts upon it [01:11] schestowitz[TR] its's not what's criminalised [01:11] schestowitz[TR] what's criminalised nis [01:11] geert i think its different to admitting atrtacktion than giving into it [01:11] Helenah I've known her for a decade now [01:11] schestowitz[TR] 1) production of child pr0n [01:11] schestowitz[TR] 2) consumptipn [01:11] schestowitz[TR] 3) sharing [01:11] geert i dont think other people get reason to fuck up ppl wo dont give in to it but are honest about it [01:12] Helenah geert: My point is [01:12] schestowitz[TR] 2 can lead to 3 [01:12] schestowitz[TR] and creates demand for 1 [01:12] Helenah society automatically likes to condemn her [01:12] Helenah and has closed her up [01:12] schestowitz[TR] and of course actually molesting/raping kids is a crime [01:12] Helenah trying to shame her [01:12] geert 'damage' or someting likewise is rather legal reason to address, not virtual perception [01:12] DaemonFC I went ahead and got vision insurance this time around. [01:12] geert but attracktion is relative, again, perception, so she 'is not' but 'wants to', for whatever peculiar reason [01:12] geert that should be understood beter [01:12] Helenah Society might be upping the child sex offender statistics. [01:12] DaemonFC I figure I'm already paying as much as the premiums cost each year anyway getting our eyes examined. [01:12] geert beter* [01:12] geert better* [01:13] geert ima get going, maybe ttyl :) [01:13] Helenah via condemning people with such an urge [01:13] Helenah shutting them down, closing them up [01:13] schestowitz[TR] Society might be upping the child sex offender statistics. [01:13] Helenah making them not want to seek any support [01:13] schestowitz[TR] this seems plusable [01:13] schestowitz[TR] as a kid we could walk freely in the streets [01:13] Helenah schestowitz[TR]: I KNOW IT IS THE DAMN TRUTH!!! [01:13] Helenah o.O [01:13] schestowitz[TR] now even after schools they are paranoid about them walking in the street [01:13] DaemonFC In some cases, padding it, yes. [01:13] geert schwestowitz money pays egoism more than quality [01:13] schestowitz[TR] and every asult is a presumed, suspect, by default pedo [01:13] schestowitz[TR] with "hidden desire" [01:13] DaemonFC They try to create victimless offenses, like consensual sex with a 16 year old or something. [01:13] geert pedo violence is expression level of egoism [01:14] geert so society sure stimulates pedo currently [01:14] schestowitz[TR] and people of adult age cannot tell their friends their kids looks good [01:14] geert paying ego more than quality [01:14] Helenah schestowitz[TR]: The hidden desire gets stronger as they can never vent it [01:14] schestowitz[TR] because they would not be seen as a compliment [01:14] DaemonFC Or prosecute teenagers for taking pictures of themselves and then intentionally distributing them. [01:14] geert ima get going [01:14] *geert has quit (Quit: leaving) [01:14] Helenah schestowitz[TR]: I've told people their kids look good. [01:14] Helenah What's wrong with that?! [01:14] Helenah o.O [01:14] Helenah Now I'm confused... [01:14] Helenah lol [01:14] DaemonFC But we all know what the serious offenses are. The ones that are worthy of the death sentence. [01:15] schestowitz[TR] Helenah: you are female [01:15] DaemonFC Back in the 1970s, if you had sex with a 16 year old probably not a hell of a lot ever came out of it if someone caught on. [01:15] Helenah schestowitz[TR]: Are you sure you're in the UK? [01:15] schestowitz[TR] it's more risky for adult men to say this [01:15] Helenah Oh true [01:15] Helenah Oh I didn't know... [01:15] DaemonFC Like, you went to court and paid a fine, if that. [01:15] reptilian_thrills schestowitz[TR]: Are you sure you're in the UK <- german [01:15] schestowitz[TR] because the presumption of pedophilia is more of a man stigma [01:15] DaemonFC And life went on. [01:15] DaemonFC Today, they will DESTROY you. [01:15] Helenah reptilian_thrills: Ah [01:15] reptilian_thrills because the presumption of pedophilia is more of a man stigma <- very true [01:15] schestowitz[TR] also, maternal status [01:15] schestowitz[TR] women give birth to kids [01:15] reptilian_thrills women are caregivers [01:15] schestowitz[TR] and they come out of... [] [01:16] Helenah Well that's wrong... [01:16] schestowitz[TR] men are not as close to babies [01:16] schestowitz[TR] and they don't nourish them [01:16] Helenah a man should be allowed to compliment a parson about their children. [01:16] reptilian_thrills and they come out of... [] <- to be fair ive never seen one as rectangular as that [01:16] reptilian_thrills but maybe on a robot [01:16] Helenah This is just unfair. [01:16] MinceR 15 235100 < reptilian_thrills> its like if 1000 people shot a guy and you execute the one that drove the car [01:16] Helenah I feel sorry for you guys. [01:16] MinceR if the guy who drove the car also fired a shot [01:16] schestowitz[TR] what this results in BTW [01:17] Helenah You should be allowed to go to a childs mother and say "Your child looks gorgeous" [01:17] schestowitz[TR] is that many menjust look away from kids [01:17] Helenah :/ [01:17] schestowitz[TR] and won't even smile [01:17] reptilian_thrills if the guy who drove the car also fired a sho <- fair point but i was hopefully implying he didnt [01:17] schestowitz[TR] because they know anything can be misinterpreted [01:17] schestowitz[TR] in the 90s it was not like that [01:17] reptilian_thrills You should be allowed to go to a childs mother and say "Your child looks gorgeous" <- perhaps [01:17] reptilian_thrills that IS a bit weird [01:17] reptilian_thrills but heres the thing [01:17] schestowitz[TR] men could hold up their friend's kid [01:17] Helenah reptilian_thrills: That is not weird, I've done it myself. [01:17] reptilian_thrills context is everything [01:17] schestowitz[TR] without being presumed pedo [01:17] schestowitz[TR] when a diver rescued many kids [01:17] schestowitz[TR] elon musk called him "pedo guy" [01:18] reptilian_thrills what society has done is thrown context out the window [01:18] schestowitz[TR] I mean, why would anyone NOT pedo won't to rescue kids [01:18] Helenah I've done it myself and I got smiled at and thanked and then the discussion about their child goes on. [01:18] schestowitz[TR] sao society has gone off the deep end, pardon the pun [01:18] schestowitz[TR] now I cannot look to kids [01:18] schestowitz[TR] talk to kids [01:18] schestowitz[TR] smile at kids [01:18] schestowitz[TR] I just treat them like persona non-grata [01:18] reptilian_thrills it might help that youre in the uk-- "gorgeous" in the uk might not be exactly the same as "gorgeous" in the states [01:18] schestowitz[TR] even my nephews and neieces [01:18] Helenah schestowitz[TR]: If I had kids... [01:19] reptilian_thrills for example, coffee might be "gorgeous" there [01:19] Helenah and I got to know you irl for a while [01:19] reptilian_thrills if you can say it about anything, that implies you can say it about a kid [01:19] Helenah I wouldn't bat an eyelid at you complimenting about them [01:19] MinceR 15 235835 < frog> is it necessary nowadays, to become a holy saint blessed by the pope, to participate with free software? [01:19] reptilian_thrills whereas "gorgeous" is probably used in few [01:19] Helenah I'm for condemn later, not before. [01:19] MinceR if someone was blessed by the pope, chances are they're not a good person [01:19] reptilian_thrills in fewer contexts in other places [01:19] reptilian_thrills so it would stand out more [01:19] Helenah Most men wouldn't mean anything sexual with their compliments [01:19] reptilian_thrills if someone was blessed by the pope, chances are they're not a good person <- or they have allergies :> [01:19] Helenah and my children would be most likely alright [01:19] schestowitz[TR] Helenah: that was 90s [01:20] schestowitz[TR] I remember the difference [01:20] reptilian_thrills Most men wouldn't mean anything sexual with their compliments <- it would be nice if people were less hypersensitive to compliments [01:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [01:20] schestowitz[TR] as a kid in the 80s [01:20] schestowitz[TR] and adultish in 90s [01:20] schestowitz[TR] kids could roam the streets [01:20] schestowitz[TR] men were not presumed sick pedos [01:20] schestowitz[TR] that changed when it was AOL/ASL era [01:20] schestowitz[TR] and predtors came online [01:20] Helenah I think I'm blinded because [01:20] Helenah I don't really see men getting presumed sick pedos... [01:20] DaemonFC Yeah, I told mom a child (15) was asking me a question on a Matrix chat about something innocuous and she said "Don't talk to a 15 year old! You're already trying to get an expungement over what happened in 2019 with that idiot, John!". I said, "There's nothing untoward and it's a group chat with hundreds of people.". [01:20] schestowitz[TR] in the 90s as a teen I even chatted to some adult couples in the US [01:21] schestowitz[TR] when talking to people over the Net was a thing [01:21] DaemonFC She goes, "Doesn't matter. Never talk to kids.". [01:21] schestowitz[TR] even strangers [01:21] Helenah schestowitz[TR]: I'm blinded, aren't I? [01:22] schestowitz[TR] the sigma deepens if you are bald, fat, or both [01:22] DaemonFC "FREEZE ASSHOLE! Are you the one who helped this 15 year old with her English homework? You make me sick!" [01:22] schestowitz[TR] Helenah: maybe [01:22] schestowitz[TR] you said you were 28 [01:22] schestowitz[TR] so you didn't see the 90s as a teen [01:22] Helenah 00:22:05 schestowitz[TR] | the sigma deepens if you are bald, fat, or both [01:22] schestowitz[TR] I know the difference [01:22] Helenah Reminds me of people hating on Corbyn because he had wonky glasses... [01:22] reptilian_thrills the sigma deepens if you are bald, fat, or both <- unattractive = creepy [01:22] Helenah I mean liking or disliking his policies, yes [01:22] reptilian_thrills of course creepy is also creepy [01:22] schestowitz[TR] yeah [01:22] reptilian_thrills creepy + unattractive = even more creepy [01:23] Helenah but hating on him as a whole cause of his glasses? Dafuq! [01:23] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], Yeah, in the 90s you could go hang out with that old Army Vet down the street who was on his porch smoking a pipe. [01:23] schestowitz[TR] looking bad means you are desperate and aim for defenseless kids, so goes the stigma [01:23] DaemonFC Nobody cared. [01:23] MinceR 16 001901 < Helenah> And doesn't the wake word not stop it from listening in? [01:23] DaemonFC Today they'd be like "OMG! MOLESTER!!!!". [01:23] reptilian_thrills unattractive is a factor of creepiness at least [01:23] MinceR if it mishears a lot of things locally as wake words, it will send a lot of stuff home [01:23] Helenah True, it's only AI afterall. :D [01:23] schestowitz[TR] many things from the 80s and 90s that I looked back now COULD look like really dodgy [01:23] reptilian_thrills https://yewtu.be/watch?v=tLPZmPaHme0 [01:23] MinceR and they could claim it's to make it more certain that it will listen when it needs to [01:23] schestowitz[TR] but were not [01:23] TR Bot The Creep (feat. Nicki Minaj & John Waters) - Invidious [01:24] schestowitz[TR] like me babysitting kids when I was 14 [01:24] schestowitz[TR] neighbours' kids [01:24] DaemonFC People weren't as paranoid back then. [01:24] schestowitz[TR] mostyly watched snooker anyway [01:24] DaemonFC I mean, if you found an actual creep, the judge would throw him away forever. [01:24] schestowitz[TR] and was paid to just hang around [01:24] Helenah schestowitz[TR]: Kids TV was creepy back then :D [01:24] DaemonFC Now, they just throw them back out there and they rape some other kids. [01:24] DaemonFC Over and over again, [01:25] Helenah Watched rainbows where they all snuggle up to each other in the same bed? [01:25] DaemonFC At least the Democrat judges in Illinois. [01:25] schestowitz[TR] yes, kids sometimes have bad dreams [01:25] DaemonFC A lot of it also has to do with what our piece of shit prosecutor wants. [01:25] MinceR 16 002351 < Helenah> Pascal was developed by a woman if I remember correctly. [01:25] Helenah and zippy would have her mouth zipped shut when she went on a chatterbox moment [01:25] MinceR i thought niklaus wirth was male :> [01:25] Helenah how creepy was that... [01:25] Helenah MinceR: It was [01:25] Helenah read further on [01:25] Helenah I'd found that out [01:25] DaemonFC He's only one of two out of 102 State's Attorneys in Illinois, a third of them are Democrats, who agrees with the SAFE-T Act. [01:26] Helenah then I found it was cobol who Grace Hopper developed [01:26] schestowitz[TR] I still remember, as a 14 or 15 year old, inspired by Baywatch BS, the kid asked me to kiss her (OF COURSE I DECLINED!) [01:26] DaemonFC The police are not happy with it. One of them said that a cop could be tied up for 8 hours doing booking paperwork over one arrest. [01:26] DaemonFC How does that work out in Chicago? [01:26] schestowitz[TR] the kids watch shit like this on TV [01:26] Helenah schestowitz[TR]: The magic roundabout had drug references [01:26] MinceR 16 002750 < DaemonFC> Someone activated mjg59_ earlier. [01:26] Helenah ever soo subtle [01:26] MinceR "Please don't deactivate me!" [01:26] Helenah but now and again for now obvious reason, mushrooms would randomly pop up on the screen [01:27] DaemonFC Please state the nature of the Social Justice Warrior emergency! [01:27] Helenah *no [01:27] schestowitz[TR] my name is matt, I calcel people like myself 20 yearsd younger [01:27] Helenah ralph harris and orville the duck [01:27] Helenah oh god [01:27] Helenah I wish I could fly right up to the sky but I can't? [01:27] Helenah And the duck was green... [01:27] Helenah Dafuq [01:28] Helenah Looked like a human baby too in feathers... [01:28] Helenah lol [01:28] reptilian_thrills And the duck was green... <- Dafuq <- i mean they have green ducks [01:28] Helenah I wonder if that's how ralph liked his children to be. [01:28] reptilian_thrills and the systemd logo [01:28] schestowitz[TR] pacman [01:28] schestowitz[TR] coming soon systemd-pacmand [01:29] schestowitz[TR] a pacman game latched onto the giut repo of Microsoft LP [01:29] Helenah I question if stuff like that twisted the minds of people like ralph causing them to develop an attraction to children that they would otherwise have never had. [01:29] Helenah It seems to me that [01:29] Helenah such people these kids TV presenters, develop a deep love for children [01:29] Helenah that they probably otherwise didn't have... [01:29] Helenah Which suggest the media needed a clean up. [01:30] schestowitz[TR] you mean rolf [01:30] Helenah Yep [01:30] Helenah and the other kids TV presenters who also got condemned of pedophilia. [01:30] Helenah He wasn't the only one working for the BBC. [01:30] phanes lol when i google for fips mode on centos i get only my own blog article for a walkthrough [01:30] schestowitz[TR] savile did worse [01:31] Helenah schestowitz[TR]: And he was also a kids TV presenter working for the BBC. [01:31] schestowitz[TR] being around kids doens't turn you intoa pedo [01:31] Helenah Something went on in the BBC [01:31] Helenah it wasn't as simple as this, I'm telling you! [01:31] schestowitz[TR] being a pedo causes you to look for jobs with many kidss around [01:31] schestowitz[TR] church, sport coach.. [01:31] reptilian_thrills Something went on in the BBC <- fishnchipsgate [01:31] Helenah schestowitz[TR]: I wasn't meaning the being around kids bit [01:31] Helenah But how kids TV was made to be [01:32] Helenah There was something more in this... [01:32] schestowitz[TR] easrlier on I gave an example, a gross example, of kids 'trying to 'seduce' adults [01:32] schestowitz[TR] adults who are mentally health are NOT attarcted to kids [01:32] Helenah Fred Talbot [01:32] schestowitz[TR] *healthy [01:32] Helenah "Save a little space in the middle of the bed for me" [01:33] Helenah two teenagers either side [01:33] schestowitz[TR] with parents that's different [01:33] Helenah grammer school students [01:33] schestowitz[TR] I used to sleep between my parents if I had nightmares [01:33] schestowitz[TR] this is 1980s [01:33] starstreak the 2017 power ranger movie is pretty good so far [01:33] schestowitz[TR] or just to one parent [01:33] Helenah schestowitz[TR]: Same [01:33] schestowitz[TR] don't know if that's still considered OK [01:33] Helenah It isn't [01:33] Helenah because the kids are smaller [01:33] schestowitz[TR] whoa [01:33] schestowitz[TR] really? [01:33] Helenah and apparently [01:33] Helenah you can accidentally crush them in your sleep [01:33] schestowitz[TR] danger of suffocation? [01:34] Helenah causing suffocation and even broken bones [01:34] schestowitz[TR] didn't know [01:34] Helenah So it's considered unsafe. [01:34] Helenah Yep [01:34] Helenah People used to like sleeping with their babies [01:34] schestowitz[TR] so parents can't 'discpline' kids [01:34] Helenah It was causing deaths [01:34] schestowitz[TR] cannot comfort them if they have bad dreams... [01:34] Helenah No, they can. [01:34] Helenah but not in that way [01:34] schestowitz[TR] to kids, physical proximity to a parent is important [01:34] schestowitz[TR] so what do parents do now? [01:34] Helenah Agreed [01:34] Helenah and most likely nothing would happen. [01:35] schestowitz[TR] also, regarding discipling, I heard they lock them up in rooms [01:35] schestowitz[TR] that's mental abuse [01:35] Helenah Like you're not mean't to swaddle a baby either [01:35] Helenah because it can cause cot death. [01:35] Helenah but people always did it [01:35] schestowitz[TR] when I gre older and helped with a small baby they had gadgets [01:35] schestowitz[TR] like babysense and stuff [01:35] Helenah Yes, isolation is mental abuse. [01:35] schestowitz[TR] all the stuff we as kids did not have [01:36] schestowitz[TR] they making parenting so much harder [01:36] Helenah schestowitz[TR]: I was bathed in the kitchen sink :D [01:36] Helenah and now people have these posh baby bathes [01:36] schestowitz[TR] consumerism [01:36] Helenah I was also nappy changed on a basic matt, anything suitable. [01:36] schestowitz[TR] you can use a sink in the toilets [01:36] Helenah Now though? They have a posh gadget for changing a baby. [01:36] schestowitz[TR] or some plastic laundry thing inside the bathtub [01:37] schestowitz[TR] nothign specific to a baby [01:37] schestowitz[TR] or keep the water shallow in the bath [01:37] reptilian_thrills so what do parents do now? <- the most obvious solution is to put the crib next to the parents bed [01:37] schestowitz[TR] seems like parenting got a whole lot worse than I realised [01:37] Helenah reptilian_thrills: Yep [01:37] schestowitz[TR] as we chose never to have kids [01:37] reptilian_thrills or for an older kid, let them sleep in a small bed next to the other bed [01:37] schestowitz[TR] crib next to bed? [01:37] schestowitz[TR] for 6 year olds? [01:38] Helenah OH [01:38] reptilian_thrills i just answered that [01:38] Helenah I was weirded out [01:38] schestowitz[TR] some kids need that proximity at even age 10 [01:38] Helenah when i saw this toddler in this special bed [01:38] Helenah like WTF [01:38] schestowitz[TR] I think I stopped around age 2 or 3 [01:38] reptilian_thrills i think a 10 year old would survive [01:38] Helenah when I was his age, I was in a normal single bed... [01:38] Helenah But he had these posh bars that stop him doing a roly poly out of the bed in his sleep [01:38] reptilian_thrills helenah, at what age do you figure this hazard is over [01:38] schestowitz[TR] use carpets [01:39] reptilian_thrills realising of course its about size and not age [01:39] schestowitz[TR] not perfect, b ut life isn't 100% risk-free [01:39] Helenah reptilian_thrills: Anyone can roly poly out the bed though [01:39] Helenah I did it believe it or not when I was 21 [01:39] Helenah once [01:39] Helenah Did I have bars to stop me? No I didn't! [01:39] schestowitz[TR] carpets help [01:39] Helenah lol [01:39] Helenah the floor is laminate but I didn't hit it [01:39] Helenah instead the blanket was under my knees [01:40] schestowitz[TR] i knew someone adult who hurt his head that way [01:40] Helenah Another thing... [01:40] Helenah and I'm not sure why but [01:40] MinceR 16 021710 < reptilian_thrills> if the guy who drove the car also fired a sho <- fair point but i was hopefully implying he didnt [01:40] Helenah If I sleep in a new or strange bed... [01:40] MinceR he did sign the letter, though [01:40] schestowitz[TR] but like cats we don't fall head first because the body realised wehat's going on [01:40] Helenah I urinate in my sleep [01:40] schestowitz[TR] and you snap [01:40] Helenah first night in the bed [01:40] Helenah It always happens [01:40] MinceR in a very prominent position at that [01:40] Helenah we dread getting a new bed knowing the first night I would've wet it [01:41] *reptilian_thrill (~reptilian_thrills@yti5a4gtx98cg.irc) has joined #techrights [01:41] schestowitz[TR] new mattresses come with plastic [01:41] Helenah schestowitz[TR]: They do? [01:41] schestowitz[TR] yeah [01:41] Helenah Really? [01:41] Helenah Mine didn't... [01:41] *reptilian_thrills has quit (connection closed) [01:41] Helenah o.o [01:41] schestowitz[TR] we left ours on for months just fir the "new product" feeling [01:41] *reptilian_thrill is now known as reptilian_thrills [01:41] schestowitz[TR] like many dow ith cars [01:41] schestowitz[TR] those too have plastic on the chairs typically [01:42] schestowitz[TR] or gadgets [01:42] Helenah hmm [01:42] schestowitz[TR] one of my screens and one laptop still have some plastics on [01:42] schestowitz[TR] rianne insists I keep them on [01:42] schestowitz[TR] they're over 5 years old [01:42] reptilian_thrills rianne insists I keep them on <- ????? [01:42] Helenah You want to know what I find weird? [01:43] reptilian_thrills what on earth for [01:43] Helenah How does doing a wrist test with water guarantee it won't burn another part of the baby's body? [01:43] schestowitz[TR] she keps the plastic on her laptop speakers for years :-) [01:43] reptilian_thrills its not a guarantee [01:43] schestowitz[TR] *kept [01:43] Helenah For one water feels hot on the head even if it's luke warm on the hands and wrists [01:43] schestowitz[TR] but she didn't use them for playbakc much anyway [01:43] Helenah I know for a fact when I'm having my wash downs [01:43] reptilian_thrills but it will probably catch most instances of too-hot water [01:43] Helenah I go to wash my hair and OUCH IT FUCKING BURNS! [01:43] Helenah but it didn't burn my hands [01:43] reptilian_thrills what are the odds of it being too hot for a baby but not too hot for your wrist? [01:44] reptilian_thrills MOST temps too high for the baby will feel uncomfortable to wrist [01:44] reptilian_thrills its not a perfect test but im sure it helps [01:44] Helenah But what about the baby's head? [01:44] schestowitz[TR] next generation: you must buy theremeter for water [01:44] schestowitz[TR] pink for baby girld [01:44] Helenah Someone actually thinks I was dropped as a baby LOL [01:44] reptilian_thrills so put it on your head instead [01:44] schestowitz[TR] blue for baby boty [01:44] schestowitz[TR] and measure water tempreature [01:44] schestowitz[TR] anything else is "child abuse" [01:44] schestowitz[TR] and "bad parenting" (the state would tkaen the kids away) [01:45] reptilian_thrills Someone actually thinks I was dropped as a baby LOL <- im not sure this is due to injury [01:45] reptilian_thrills you may be naturally like this [01:45] schestowitz[TR] *thermometer [01:45] Helenah Because of this where the green circle is https://files.catbox.moe/9g6tar.jpg [01:45] reptilian_thrills *thermomete <- all baby bottles must come with a backup camera [01:46] reptilian_thrills to make sure no one gets run over in the carpark [01:46] schestowitz[TR] and a microphone [01:46] Helenah I have what looks like my skull didn't fuse [01:46] Helenah and I can even feel it... o.O [01:46] reptilian_thrills and a microphone <- self driving bottles [01:46] schestowitz[TR] lidar [01:46] schestowitz[TR] (waste of energy) [01:46] reptilian_thrills secure bottle [01:46] schestowitz[TR] and distracts some drivers [01:47] reptilian_thrills if you try to put anything but microsoft-approved formula it does a great impression of a keurig [01:47] schestowitz[TR] you will starve to death of the md5sum does not match [01:47] Helenah So about the crack on my head... o.o https://files.catbox.moe/9g6tar.jpg [01:47] schestowitz[TR] they will call it food security [01:48] schestowitz[TR] security... meanin the opposite [01:48] reptilian_thrills but you can change the keys yourself, you just need to reprogram the nand chip and void the warranty [01:48] schestowitz[TR] like machine of yourse that refuses to boot for you [01:48] Helenah Put the car radio into the freezer and no longer will you need a code :D [01:48] reptilian_thrills Put the car radio into the freezer and no longer will you need a code <- put the baby bottle in the microwave [01:48] schestowitz[TR] if it is still detachable [01:48] reptilian_thrills not to warm it, but to keep it from getting calls [01:48] schestowitz[TR] I've not driven in a while, do cars still let you remove the radio etc? [01:49] schestowitz[TR] of the radio still sa separet unit? [01:49] schestowitz[TR] or built into the dashboard? [01:49] schestowitz[TR] i know it's not "radio" [01:49] reptilian_thrills do cars still let you remove the radio etc? <- if worse comes to worse you could find a guy to steal it for you [01:49] schestowitz[TR] but the whatever they have for media functionality [01:49] reptilian_thrills drive around tottenham im sure youll find someone [01:50] reptilian_thrills or built into the dashboard <- card-radiod [01:50] reptilian_thrills i think it depends on the model of the car [01:50] schestowitz[TR] they "digitise" a lot [01:50] schestowitz[TR] it would cost a fortune to repair [01:50] schestowitz[TR] "Sorry, we have to replace the whole [x]" [01:51] reptilian_thrills car [01:51] reptilian_thrills :> [01:51] schestowitz[TR] https://www.npr.org/2022/02/14/1080548535/seattle-mazda-drivers-cant-change-the-radio-dial-its-stuck-on-kuow [01:51] reptilian_thrills my bluetooth is out "sorry, its totaled" [01:51] TR Bot Seattle Mazda drivers can't change the radio dial. It's stuck on KUOW : NPR [01:51] schestowitz[TR] https://www.pcmag.com/news/mazda-drivers-in-seattle-can-only-listen-to-public-radio-dealerships-blame [01:51] TR Bot Drivers in Seattle Can Only Listen to Public Radio, Dealerships Blame 5G | PCMag [01:51] schestowitz[TR] https://www.theverge.com/2022/2/9/22925619/mazda-head-units-bricked-npr-seattle-need-ota-updates [01:51] TR Bot Mazdas in Seattle cant tune away from local NPR station - The Verge [01:51] reptilian_thrills the push to start button broke, time to get a new car [01:51] schestowitz[TR] lol [01:51] Helenah There is also this bump on the head look https://files.catbox.moe/r5u52d.jpg [01:51] schestowitz[TR] new dashboard at least [01:51] reptilian_thrills they used to joke about if microsoft made cars-- now we know they were right [01:52] schestowitz[TR] when the supply chain woes settle [01:52] Helenah Now I look at MRI imagery of other people, their heads are smooth, nothing like this... [01:52] Helenah o.O [01:52] reptilian_thrills There is also this bump on the head look https://files.catbox.moe/r5u52d.jpg <- roy is a certified phrenologist [01:52] Helenah reptilian_thrills: Wait, whose roy? [01:52] schestowitz[TR] hi [01:52] reptilian_thrills Read on [02:10] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/esp32-dev-kit-includes-touchscreen-and-optional-thermal-imaging/ ) [02:10] TR News ESP32 dev kit includes touchscreen and optional thermal imaging https://linuxgizmos.com/esp32-dev-kit-includes-touchscreen-and-optional-thermal-imaging/ Source: Linux Gizmos | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//linuxgizmos.com/esp32-dev-kit-includes-touchscreen-and-optional-thermal-imaging/ [02:11] Helenah "ah yes, looks like a tumor", please tell me this guy doesn't know what he's talking about.... :D [02:11] Helenah That would be a second tumour! [02:11] schestowitz[TR] Helenah: they work backwards [02:11] schestowitz[TR] you are greek, feet are like this [02:11] schestowitz[TR] and statues also [02:12] schestowitz[TR] so they saw, show me your feet, I will tell you who you are [02:12] MinceR 16 031132 < Helenah> "ah yes, looks like a tumor", please tell me this guy doesn't know what he's talking about.... :D [02:12] schestowitz[TR] like doing the finger test to assess penic size [02:12] MinceR it's not a tumah! it's not a tumah, at all! [02:13] Helenah MinceR: Yeah I kinda have doubts it's a tumour... [02:13] schestowitz[TR] cyst maybe [02:13] Helenah Yeah but... [02:13] schestowitz[TR] what is a cyst compared to a tumour anyway\? [02:13] Helenah Now this is another condition on my damn long list... [02:13] schestowitz[TR] one small? one does not grow anymore? [02:13] schestowitz[TR] not sure, but seems like semantics [02:14] Helenah Well a cyst is pocket of fluid [02:14] Helenah *a [02:14] Helenah A blister could be considered a cyst [02:14] schestowitz[TR] oh [02:14] schestowitz[TR] but external to the skin? [02:14] Helenah a tumour is a neoplasm [02:14] Helenah An abnormal mass of tissue that forms when cells grow and divide more than they should or do not die when they should. [02:14] MinceR neoplasm is not to be confused with pleonasm [02:15] schestowitz[TR] plasm4 [02:15] Helenah MinceR: Not confusing anyway. [02:15] Helenah *anything [02:15] schestowitz[TR] killlall plasm-shell [02:15] schestowitz[TR] *cell [02:15] Helenah o.O [02:15] schestowitz[TR] right [02:15] schestowitz[TR] -9 [02:15] schestowitz[TR] I forgot [02:17] schestowitz[TR] anyway, time for bed, I'm tired [02:17] schestowitz[TR] not gonna sleep with my mom and dad [02:17] schestowitz[TR] they weight a ton each [02:17] schestowitz[TR] but I'm not afair [02:17] schestowitz[TR] *afraid [02:17] schestowitz[TR] I'll wear a halmet [02:17] schestowitz[TR] gn [02:18] schestowitz[TR] *helmet * weigh [02:19] Helenah schestowitz[TR], MinceR, reptilian_thrills, Tumour of the cranium https://media.springernature.com/lw685/springer-static/image/art%3A10.1007%2Fs00381-018-3937-0/MediaObjects/381_2018_3937_Fig1_HTML.png [02:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. 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HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-151022.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-151022.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-151022.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-151022.txt [02:46] TR Bot IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, October 15, 2022 [02:46] reptilian_thrills and i probably didnt write nimda [02:46] reptilian_thrills and im not kevin mitnick [02:47] starstreak nimda lol, i had that one back in the day [02:47] starstreak one of the few viruses i've had [02:47] reptilian_thrills i took antibiotics around the same time so idk [02:47] TR News Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-10-15.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-10-15.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now) [02:47] reptilian_thrills i had a boot sector virus [02:48] reptilian_thrills john mcaffee killed it [02:48] reptilian_thrills with his gun [02:48] starstreak john mcaffee <3 [02:48] reptilian_thrills you just like bad boys [02:48] Helenah Are men not supposed to nurture? [02:48] starstreak apparently [02:48] Helenah Why not? [02:48] reptilian_thrills Are men not supposed to nurture? Are men not supposed to nurture? <- not if they want to get laid [02:49] reptilian_thrills MOST people-- NOT all, look to men for certain-- expectations, like starstreak has of them [02:49] reptilian_thrills and they look to women for something different-- to the point where it can get comical [02:49] reptilian_thrills by comical, i mean read "trashing" by jo freeman [02:49] starstreak im like 90% lesbian and 10% straight [02:49] reptilian_thrills thankfully not everyone has conventional expectations [02:50] reptilian_thrills but by definition, most people do [02:50] reptilian_thrills im like 90% lesbian and 10% straight <- 90% awesome and 10% also awesome [02:50] Helenah So it's mere expectation and not even defined by nature. [02:50] Helenah social construction [02:50] Helenah What if it's in human nature to create social constructs though? [02:50] reptilian_thrills So it's mere expectation and not even defined by natur <- had to say how much of a role nature plays here. i mean, in indiginous communities it varies more [02:50] Helenah hence why it happened? [02:50] starstreak john mcaffee is definately high up on the hot/crazy scale [02:51] reptilian_thrills social construction <- i believe some of it is construction absolutely [02:51] Helenah Well that's why the "what if" question came in, reptilian_thrills [02:51] reptilian_thrills yeah i may miss a few characters here and there [02:51] Helenah hmm [02:51] reptilian_thrills my gf used to identify as lesbian [02:51] Helenah I was expected to have surgeries as a baby o.o [02:52] Helenah My mother rejected it [02:52] starstreak John McAfee, Justin Beiber, Roy, etc all sexy. [02:52] reptilian_thrills I was expected to have surgeries as a baby <- im really curious but i dont want to pry [02:52] *sonde has quit (Quit: bye) [02:52] reptilian_thrills John McAfee, Justin Beiber, Roy, etc all sexy. <- guess if those are the choices id have to fuck john mcaffee [02:52] Helenah reptilian_thrills: ambiguous genitalia. [02:52] reptilian_thrills at least he helped me with a computer problem 20 years ago [02:52] starstreak lol [02:52] reptilian_thrills reptilian_thrills: ambiguous genitalia. <- COOL! [02:52] reptilian_thrills um [02:52] reptilian_thrills no worries [02:53] starstreak Justin Beiber is so dreamy [02:53] reptilian_thrills My mother rejected it <- but you dont relate to her at all? [02:53] reptilian_thrills i mean i can relate, my mother was switched at birth. [02:53] Helenah reptilian_thrills: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/45,X/46,XY_mosaicism [02:53] TR Bot 45,X/46,XY mosaicism - Wikipedia [02:54] Helenah I'm happy she rejected it [02:54] reptilian_thrills yeah its cool that she rejected it [02:54] reptilian_thrills switched at birth <- my birth [02:54] Helenah the doctors were wanting to unnecessarily how they put it "correct" something which should have been my choice and not a matter of urgency. [02:54] reptilian_thrills which should have been my choice and not a matter of urgenc <- we are on the same page with this, but because of your mother you DO have that choice, yes? [02:55] reptilian_thrills which is good [02:55] Helenah I do [02:55] reptilian_thrills awesome [02:55] Helenah and I don't want anything doing. [02:55] reptilian_thrills i think previous generations meant well of course-- but as they say, "yikes" [02:55] reptilian_thrills and I don't want anything doing <- i can relate to that too, i dont want anything done [02:58] Helenah I'm probably medically classified as transgender but I don't feel like I am... o.o [02:58] Helenah How can I be that unless I transitioned... [02:58] reptilian_thrills i think transgender is too personal for the medical community to have a LOT of say on it [02:59] Helenah Which I didn't... [02:59] reptilian_thrills How can I be that unless I transitioned... <- that parts easy [02:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 23.38 k/sec., IPFS upstream 45.10 average k/sec., average swarm size 136.23 [02:59] reptilian_thrills trangender isnt only about surgery and hormones [02:59] reptilian_thrills sometimes it is ● Oct 16 [03:00] Helenah I'm not on HRT, reptilian_thrills [03:00] reptilian_thrills eddie izzard says hes trans and still uses the same pronouns [03:00] reptilian_thrills i love eddie izzard, im not gonna argue [03:00] reptilian_thrills I'm not on HRT, reptilian_thrills <- no i wasnt implying you were [03:00] reptilian_thrills i was saying that transgender isnt only about hrt and surgery [03:01] reptilian_thrills also im not saying youre trans-- i think thats more about YOUR feelings than anything els [03:01] Helenah hmm [03:01] reptilian_thrills its like how im i gonna tell someone theyre gay [03:01] Helenah I feel like I'm cisgender. [03:01] reptilian_thrills or straight [03:01] reptilian_thrills I feel like I'm cisgender <- works for me [03:02] reptilian_thrills i think ultimately youre the most qualified person to know this [03:02] reptilian_thrills maybe someone can lend you a hand with it but its really up to you (imo) [03:02] reptilian_thrills id joke about demanding that its up to you but sometimes i confuse people that way [03:03] Helenah lol [03:11] *Helenah hugs reptilian_thrills [03:11] Helenah I erm... [03:11] Helenah I misunderstood you at first and was very wrong [03:11] reptilian_thrills no im totally a mixed bag and youll probably hate me sooner or later :) [03:11] Helenah Like... back when I called you a misogynist, you're far from it. [03:12] reptilian_thrills but until then, cheers! [03:12] reptilian_thrills you're far from it <- well im unconventional and not pc [03:12] Helenah hmm [03:12] reptilian_thrills but my politics overlap with feminism well enough imo [03:12] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [03:12] reptilian_thrills it always depends how you define feminism. some are terfs. [03:12] Helenah I don't agree with all types of feminism. [03:12] reptilian_thrills i dont overlap with those [03:13] reptilian_thrills I don't agree with all types of feminism. <- thats just it-- its not really possible to [03:13] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@yt7zxu45ne39a.irc) has joined #techrights [03:13] Helenah Some of them are fine, others are fighting for something which doesn't need fighting for, others are excludionary and everything. [03:13] Helenah You get modern type of feminism where they fight for things like anti-gentleman [03:13] reptilian_thrills yeah thats... [03:14] Helenah What's wrong with a man holding the door for a woman? What the fuck is wrong with anyone holding the door for anyone else? [03:14] reptilian_thrills i compare it to stalins plowing [03:14] Helenah lol [03:14] reptilian_thrills What the fuck is wrong with anyone holding the door for anyone else? its P R O B L E M A T I C [03:14] reptilian_thrills honestly its post structuralism [03:14] reptilian_thrills its HIGHLY unstable [03:14] Helenah hmm [03:14] reptilian_thrills we might need a little post structuralism [03:14] reptilian_thrills too much and the world just goes nuts [03:15] Helenah I do it out of mere politeness is someone is like right behind me, it's better than letting a door slam in their face. [03:15] Helenah *if [03:15] reptilian_thrills it's better than letting a door slam in their face <- yeah its just [03:15] reptilian_thrills if you make not letting a door slam in someones face into a political statement [03:15] reptilian_thrills then it becomes about whether youre making the right statement or not [03:15] reptilian_thrills at that point i pretty much just tell people to go fuck themselves, and thats MY political statement [03:15] Helenah And what these modern feminists are wishing for is doors slammed in their faces as men would start feeling rude holding it for them even if they're literally 2cm behind you. [03:16] Helenah Ah [03:16] reptilian_thrills i had someone say "youre welcome?" to me after holding a door just last night [03:16] Helenah They actually exclamed it too? :D [03:16] reptilian_thrills i didnt worry about it, i said thank you audibly and its obvious that some noise prevented them from hearing me [03:16] reptilian_thrills so i just kept walking [03:17] reptilian_thrills i could have stayed and made it even more awkward, but people are more likely to take a compliment than accept an apology these days [03:17] Helenah hmm [03:17] reptilian_thrills so i just let it go [03:17] Helenah You see, I would've said "Thank you very much", literally. [03:17] reptilian_thrills well i said thank you, and i meant it [03:17] reptilian_thrills it was noisy so he probably didnt hear me [03:17] Helenah I literally would've put "you very much" on the end, it's literally how I thank people irl. :D [03:17] Helenah Ah [03:18] reptilian_thrills I literally would've put "you very much" <- i miss the uk sometimes [03:18] Helenah But yeah you get rude fucks. [03:18] reptilian_thrills not enough to go back, but enuogh to be depressed for a year or two after leaving [03:18] Helenah hmm [03:18] *Helenah hugs [03:18] reptilian_thrills But yeah you get rude fucks. <- i think he just felt stepped on that no one said thank you [03:19] reptilian_thrills it was one of those door-airlocks that increase energy efficiency and make everything awkward for more than one person going through [03:19] reptilian_thrills if i hadnt been wearing a mask im sure the sound woudl have carried [03:19] Helenah hmm [03:19] reptilian_thrills /me hugs helenah [03:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [03:21] Helenah Is there something wrong with your command interpreter? :3 [03:22] reptilian_thrills Is there something wrong with your command interpreter? <- it really depends who you ask [03:22] Helenah Oh [03:22] Helenah :D [03:22] reptilian_thrills its functioning within normal parameters [03:22] Helenah Ah [03:24] starstreak you know what blows my mind? memes [03:26] reptilian_thrills /me still like oppalance [03:27] starstreak who was the first person to take an image and add text to it so that its a joke [03:28] reptilian_thrills oh i know this one [03:28] reptilian_thrills look up ne pas une pipe [03:28] reptilian_thrills treachery of images [03:28] reptilian_thrills or lhooq [03:28] reptilian_thrills which is a french pun for "shes got a hot ass" [03:28] reptilian_thrills marcel duchamp [03:29] starstreak nah like internet memes [03:29] reptilian_thrills well i mean, theyre on the internet now [03:29] starstreak internet memes didnt really exist back in the 00s [03:29] reptilian_thrills but i guess yeah, not made for the internet [03:29] reptilian_thrills unless duchamp was truly a prophet [03:30] reptilian_thrills "the thing about the internet is people misquote you all the time"-- abraham lincoln [03:30] starstreak ok so we had the dancing baby [03:30] starstreak i guess thats a meme [03:30] reptilian_thrills i consider that a proto meme [03:30] reptilian_thrills as long as we are restricting scope to the internet [03:31] starstreak the whole image and text thing really picked up in the 10s though [03:31] reptilian_thrills but really, this goes back as far as email signatures [03:31] reptilian_thrills as they contained ascii art [03:31] starstreak ok [03:31] reptilian_thrills so you have to specify raster images [03:31] reptilian_thrills or something [03:31] reptilian_thrills otherwise warhol [03:31] starstreak the format: image with text super imposed [03:31] reptilian_thrills he didnt even need text [03:32] reptilian_thrills "its a picture over and over, bitch! i memed the shit out of it" [03:32] reptilian_thrills image with text super imposed <- lolcats? [03:32] reptilian_thrills fwiw-- in the 90s no less, we had some postcards that would have qualified as memes had they been online [03:32] reptilian_thrills what i mean is [03:33] reptilian_thrills chances are this made it online the very moment the technology supported it [03:33] reptilian_thrills so youre really looking not for the first example, which is impossibile [03:33] reptilian_thrills but the first MAINSTREAM (popularly known) example [03:33] reptilian_thrills and that would probably be lhooq or treachery of images IF they were online [03:33] starstreak meme: https://i.imgur.com/rH5GGmR.jpg [03:33] reptilian_thrills but otherwise... [03:34] reptilian_thrills welcome to #internethistory [03:34] starstreak i'd like to take a guess and say modern memes probably started with smart phones [03:35] reptilian_thrills thats a good guess but [03:35] reptilian_thrills i remember when smart phones became a thing [03:35] reptilian_thrills and lolcats preceded that, im 99% sure [03:35] reptilian_thrills what they did is made it even more mainstream [03:35] starstreak if you have the facebook app its really easy to save memes and repost them [03:35] reptilian_thrills smartphones didnt matter until the iphone [03:36] reptilian_thrills just like mp3 players didnt matter until the ipod [03:36] starstreak true [03:36] reptilian_thrills and im not saying this as an apple fan. im a realist here. [03:36] reptilian_thrills steve jobs made everybody want one. [03:36] starstreak did you see the google phone before iphone? [03:36] starstreak it looked like a blackberry [03:36] reptilian_thrills yeah blackberries were a thing [03:36] starstreak i had a few blackberries [03:36] reptilian_thrills but only people with ties had a blackberry [03:37] starstreak i first got into twitter via a blackberry [03:37] reptilian_thrills meme: https://i.imgur.com/rH5GGmR.jpg <- tsk [03:37] reptilian_thrills youre making the channel look bad [03:37] starstreak lol im autistic tho [03:37] reptilian_thrills YOU, and your mems about vaxes and autism [03:37] reptilian_thrills and conspiracy theories [03:38] reptilian_thrills and making everything trans-fabulous, which has nothing to do with tech [03:38] starstreak i had a blackberry and i didn't do email much lol [03:38] reptilian_thrills dfc has been with us since the 80s [03:39] starstreak BBM was nice [03:39] starstreak blackberry messenger [03:39] reptilian_thrills BBM was nice <- i dont listen to hip hop [03:39] starstreak it was one of the first messenger apps that had delivery confirmation [03:39] reptilian_thrills what were blackberry apps like? [03:39] starstreak BBM = blackberry messenger [03:39] reptilian_thrills before android i mean [03:39] reptilian_thrills blackberry messenger <- i know you ruined the joke by explaining too soon [03:40] reptilian_thrills being informative, and about tech [03:40] reptilian_thrills /me tsks again [03:40] reptilian_thrills just go back to the vaccine stuff [03:41] starstreak https://yewtu.be/watch?v=PpxUU32jSPg [03:41] TR Bot Pocketnow Throwback: BlackBerry Curve 8330 review - Invidious [03:41] starstreak thats the phone I had for work [03:41] starstreak then we got upgraded to the iphone 4 [03:41] reptilian_thrills did you hold it right? [03:42] reptilian_thrills iphone likes to be held... [03:42] reptilian_thrills a certain way [03:42] starstreak yeah [03:42] starstreak i've had android devices too [03:42] reptilian_thrills and pampered [03:42] starstreak i like the iphone the best [03:42] reptilian_thrills and wined and dined [03:42] starstreak what will be my next phone? i dunno, maybe the pinephone [03:42] reptilian_thrills iphone likes long walks on the beach and movies about war [03:43] reptilian_thrills i've had android devices too <- me too but they were very one dimensional [03:43] starstreak i can't use linucks to put music on my iphone [03:43] reptilian_thrills i have put music on an iphone with linucks [03:43] reptilian_thrills but then the phone couldnt play it [03:44] reptilian_thrills because i didnt use the magic apple software [03:44] reptilian_thrills but you could still read the files off the phone [03:44] reptilian_thrills apple, it just works [03:44] starstreak i tried rhythmbox and banshee and neither saw the device [03:44] starstreak i had to pull my macbook out of the closet to put music on my phone [03:45] reptilian_thrills like tom cruise [03:45] starstreak apple, it just works with apple [03:45] reptilian_thrills you macbook what are you OH MY GAD i like it in here i mean like i feel really safe! [03:45] starstreak i could probably load itunes up in a windows 10 vm but i hate turning that thing on [03:45] starstreak windows is so slow [03:46] reptilian_thrills windows be like: [03:46] reptilian_thrills ... [03:46] reptilian_thrills /me shows the windows logo [03:46] starstreak i have a windows 10 vm for doing my taxes [03:46] reptilian_thrills /me teases with a blank screen like its gonna load [03:46] reptilian_thrills /me shows the windows logo again [03:46] reptilian_thrills /me makes dots go around the logo in a circle [03:47] reptilian_thrills /me pauses for another 10 seconds [03:47] starstreak systemd boots faster [03:47] reptilian_thrills id protest but its true [03:47] starstreak why should my GUI be put on hold because the network is connecting [03:48] reptilian_thrills now youre contradicting yourself [03:48] reptilian_thrills while windows was loading i mastered the art of japanese ink painting [03:48] reptilian_thrills i went out, bought some ink and brushes, some books, studied and practiced [03:48] Helenah My tumour [03:48] reptilian_thrills toured the world [03:48] reptilian_thrills came back and it booted [03:48] starstreak my system boots up in less than 10 seconds [03:49] reptilian_thrills /me did actually practice japense ink painting but cant do a lot more than a fucking bamboo pole [03:49] reptilian_thrills also this was before wesley snipes [03:49] Helenah starstreak: Memes have been around for thousands of years, even in the form of carvings of pictograms and writing to go with it on cave walls. [03:49] reptilian_thrills and windows 10 [03:50] Helenah It's nothing new, and it's not specific to the internet or the media. [03:50] reptilian_thrills lolcats used to be a lot bigger [03:50] reptilian_thrills and they had huge teeth [03:50] DaemonFC Windows 10 really sucks in a virtual machine. [03:50] reptilian_thrills and they taste like chicken [03:50] Helenah DaemonFC: I call BS... [03:50] DaemonFC I thought it was slow on actual computers just because of a little jank. [03:51] Helenah With the correct virtualisation setup, it can be near-native performance. [03:51] reptilian_thrills this was before mcdonalds [03:51] reptilian_thrills and wesley snipes [03:51] reptilian_thrills With the correct virtualisation setup, it can be near-native performance. <- i turned my computer into a virtual computer [03:51] Helenah qemu + vfio for example will give you near-native performance. [03:51] reptilian_thrills only when the power went out it disappeared and i dont know where it is [03:52] Helenah Providing you do GPU passthrough and also trick the VM into thinking the CPU is a real one. [03:52] DaemonFC The default is like 4 GB of RAM. [03:52] Helenah That has nothing to do with performance... [03:52] DaemonFC I don't even really want to give it that much, but it's enough to make it load Internet Exploder. [03:53] Helenah Unless you're exceeding it. [03:53] Helenah Then the system will page and it will slug as a result [03:53] Helenah But until it exceeds that 4GB... [03:53] starstreak Helenah, i was trying to pinpoint the timeline of a specific format of meme, the standard image with top and bottom text [03:54] Helenah I'm not sure you can really say any format of meme is a standard. [03:54] DaemonFC Enable hardware acceleration was off. [03:54] MinceR 16 043555 < reptilian_thrills> smartphones didnt matter until the iphone [03:54] MinceR i had a smartphone before the hypePhone even existed and it mattered to me [03:54] reptilian_thrills ok boomer [03:54] reptilian_thrills /me runs [03:55] reptilian_thrills but seriously, i mean to the general public, not to tech people [03:55] Helenah DaemonFC: I just find it funny how you're whining about the performance of a Windows 10 VM blaming Windows itself yet I've ran modern games in a Windows 10 VM at full FPS. [03:55] Helenah Yes I agree that Windows itself does have some performance issues but it doesn't make a difference if virtual or physical in that regard. [03:55] MinceR the general public needs a smartphone so little they don't even notice that hypePhones aren't smartphones [03:56] MinceR Helenah: guess what are "modern" game FPS-es compared to. [03:56] Helenah DaemonFC: I just think you say shit that you want to believe even when it isn't true. [03:56] IPFS Gemini requests since start of month: 88300 total Total number of pages in capsule: 43030 Active: active (running) since Thu 2022-08-04 09:15:14 BST; 2 months 11 days ago [03:56] MinceR 16 045025 < DaemonFC> Windows 10 really sucks in a virtual machine. [03:56] reptilian_thrills everyone complaining about postmodernism take note [03:56] Helenah MinceR: I've even mapped HUGE amounts of highly graphical terrain in such VM. [03:56] MinceR it really sucks on a real machine too. [03:56] reptilian_thrills mincer is PRE-modern [03:57] Helenah Surely fucking around with an engine is more resource costly than simply playing a game. [03:57] MinceR who knows [03:57] reptilian_thrills it depends on the engine [03:57] MinceR the "modern" web tends to be more resource-hungry than games [03:57] MinceR and has no right to be [03:57] reptilian_thrills because if the engine is well designed and the game was coded by a team of monkeys [03:57] Helenah reptilian_thrills: Unreal Engine and Unity 3D, they're still very heavy. [03:57] IPFS IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 81 GB TotalOut: 22 GB [03:57] reptilian_thrills sure but those are examples [03:58] reptilian_thrills i mean if you mean "so far with existing examples" then probably, yes [03:58] MinceR PrBoom+ is a lot lighter than those engines :> [03:58] DaemonFC Eh, I don't need it to work well. [03:58] IPFS New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled. [03:58] DaemonFC I just needed to load IE for a few minutes. [03:58] DaemonFC Worked for that. [03:59] reptilian_thrills you have to be careful with mincer, he knows a lot more than phanes and unlike phanes he only waves it around your face when hes in the mood to do so [03:59] reptilian_thrills phanes just runs it up the flagpole and sees if anyone salutes [03:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.05 k/sec., IPFS upstream 62.11 average k/sec., average swarm size 121.86 ● Oct 16 [04:00] Helenah I played in the VM just fine GTA V, League of Legends, Minecraft, WoW (Though uses fuck all), CoD, Cities Skylines, The Sims 4, a fuckton of other games. [04:00] DaemonFC I just use Wine or something. [04:00] DaemonFC Virtual machines are just too slow for that. [04:00] Helenah The VM didn't hinder game performance at all. [04:01] Helenah DaemonFC: Dude [04:01] Helenah Now you're blaming VMs... [04:01] Helenah as a whole [04:01] Helenah You're generalising [04:01] Helenah You do not even know what you're talking about. [04:01] Helenah This machine was literally running like 5 VMs [04:02] reptilian_thrills what cpu [04:02] DaemonFC Windows can barely run games at a playable speed when it's the Host OS. [04:02] Helenah And here you are calling VMs slow... [04:02] Helenah reptilian_thrills: i7 [04:02] reptilian_thrills wow [04:02] Helenah DaemonFC: Not true. [04:02] reptilian_thrills /me expected higher, with 5 vms [04:02] DaemonFC I have a Tiger Lake i7, 16 GB RAM, and Iris XE graphics. [04:02] Helenah Like I said before, Windows does have its performance issues but... [04:02] DaemonFC Wine runs most games fine. [04:03] Helenah You should still be able to play games at full speed [04:03] reptilian_thrills plus its pure concentrated evil coming out of bill gates backside [04:03] Helenah providing your hardware is cut out to deal with the performance of Windows and the games at the same time. [04:04] Helenah reptilian_thrills: I'm more of a GNU/Linux user myself. [04:04] Helenah And its runtime seems to feel smoother than that of Windows. [04:05] Helenah but DaemonFC does not know what they're talking about. :D [04:06] Helenah DaemonFC: My hypervisor has 128GB RAM [04:07] Helenah And is packed out with graphics cards [04:07] Helenah That's how I get my VM performance!!! [04:07] Helenah And that's how I run soo many VMs at once! [04:07] Helenah Because the CPU isn't having to software render the graphics of them. [04:08] starstreak Helenah, thats hot [04:08] Helenah reptilian_thrills: ^ [04:08] Helenah starstreak: Thanks [04:08] reptilian_thrills reptilian_thrills: ^ <- hehehe [04:08] starstreak i wish i had 128GB of ram, gnome would run smoother [04:08] Helenah You shouldn't need that for a DE... [04:08] Helenah o.O [04:08] Helenah Not sure why you think you do... [04:08] starstreak LOL im making fun of gnome [04:08] Helenah Oh LOL [04:09] Helenah I didn't see that haha :D [04:09] reptilian_thrills <3 [04:09] reptilian_thrills buttons... pushed! [04:09] Helenah I <3 my i3wm [04:09] starstreak im currently using 5.6GB of ram [04:09] Helenah My hypervisor is GNU/Linux, I got two of them. [04:09] Helenah One in DC, one in house. [04:09] Helenah One in house is headless as far as the host is concerned but the VMs have their own dedicated displays. [04:10] starstreak Helenah, you should try stable diffusion [04:10] Helenah VMs which start automatically so I only need to power it on, all the VMs come up automatically along with their displays, keyboards, mice. [04:10] Helenah So there is no touching the host, ever, only for updates and maintenance which I can simply SSH in to do that. [04:11] reptilian_thrills my window manager: [04:11] reptilian_thrills SIZE RES [04:11] reptilian_thrills 776K 4712K [04:11] starstreak Helenah, https://github.com/cmdr2/stable-diffusion-ui [04:11] TR Bot - cmdr2/stable-diffusion-ui: Easiest 1-click way to install and use Stable Diffusion on your own computer. Provides a browser UI for generating images from text prompts and images. Just enter your text prompt, and see the generated image. [04:11] Helenah Looks nice :D [04:12] Helenah reptilian_thrills: Nice :D [04:12] starstreak its the AI art generator I use [04:12] Helenah I have an IRC server somewhere that only has 8MB RAM. [04:12] starstreak my dual core with hyperthreading takes 15 minutes to make 1 image [04:12] Helenah reptilian_thrills, starstreak I have an IRC server somewhere that only has 8MB RAM. [04:12] starstreak nice [04:12] reptilian_thrills /me clusters his 1mp cameras together to take one really average-sized picture [04:13] Helenah So when people are running UnrealIRCd and claiming they need gigs of RAM, it's fucking whackjobish. [04:13] Helenah lol [04:13] Helenah Boycott unreal! [04:13] Helenah It is NOT resource efficient at all! [04:13] starstreak unreal is that bad? [04:13] Helenah Boycott it, stop being a dick with your resources... [04:13] Helenah starstreak: Yep [04:13] Helenah an IRC network I'm oper on, they use UnrealIRCd and allocating silly amounts of RAM... [04:14] Helenah Yet I can run Solanum IRCd within 8MB RAM and it doesn't even need to swap. [04:14] Helenah Which is better use of hardware resources for other things. [04:14] Helenah 8MB RAM, single core [04:14] starstreak 8MB is crazy low [04:14] starstreak what OS? [04:15] Helenah It's IRC, it was wrote in 1988 for christ sake [04:15] Helenah starstreak: Devuan [04:15] Helenah Which is systemd-less Debian [04:15] reptilian_thrills sort of [04:15] starstreak i know of it [04:15] MinceR iirc people are doing stuff with unrealircd that solanum won't do, though [04:15] reptilian_thrills /me switched to devuan in 2015 [04:15] Helenah MinceR: Correct but it's unnecessary features. [04:15] Helenah They're mere bells and whistles and they're wants, not needs. [04:16] starstreak my server is using 314MB with nothing but cjdns and irssi loaded :/ [04:16] MinceR spamfilter is pretty awesome [04:16] starstreak oh and nginx [04:17] Helenah Seriously though even with a lot of the modules not loaded, it still asks for pathetic amounts of MiB's... [04:17] phanes every ircd sucks [04:17] Helenah Which means the core codebase isn't resource efficient. [04:17] Helenah Because of crappy developers [04:17] phanes like they literally all need rewritten from the ground up [04:17] reptilian_thrills how did you get out [04:17] MinceR anope compatibility is also handy [04:17] reptilian_thrills go back to lunch https://yewtu.be/watch?v=xcWOviMI6Lk [04:17] *reptilian_thrills has quit (connection closed) [04:17] TR Bot Robbie Williams - Millennium (Official Music Video) - Invidious [04:18] Helenah Atheme here, I forgot to mention but the 8MB RAM single core IRC hub is running Atheme on it. [04:18] Helenah So EVERYTHING is within 8MB of RAM! :D [04:18] Helenah And a single core [04:18] *reptilian_thrills (~reptilian_thrills@dzhffiiy2qznw.irc) has joined #techrights [04:18] Helenah :D [04:18] MinceR we'll see if anyone is willing and able to write an appropriate replacement [04:18] Helenah It's the 90s all over again, how cool is that?! [04:18] MinceR maybe even with RELAYMSG [04:18] starstreak linucks btw [04:19] MinceR and without inspircd's creative interpretation of the standards [04:19] reptilian_thrills It's the 90s all over again, how cool is that <- that means hillary clinton is potus [04:19] MinceR that's a different branch, isn't it? [04:19] Helenah Was that the person who used a home email server and it got hacked, reptilian_thrills? :D [04:19] reptilian_thrills i mean it could be [04:20] reptilian_thrills she also ran against lawrence lessig for the white house [04:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [04:20] Helenah MinceR: It might be more resource efficient under a rewrite [04:20] Helenah Like the IRCd family tree is HUGE now [04:20] Helenah every single IRCd is based off another IRCd based off another IRCd and so on and so forth [04:21] Helenah and that's bound to create code mess [04:21] MinceR i think there are some from-scratch ircd-s around [04:21] Helenah MinceR: I did one myself... [04:21] Helenah I don't use it though. [04:22] Helenah and there are from scratch IRCd's around anyway [04:22] Helenah What about the first ever IRCd? Isn't that not from scratch? Of course it is! [04:22] MinceR https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d5/IRCd_software_implementations3.svg [04:24] Helenah MinceR, reptilian_thrills, I still use CB radio btw. [04:24] MinceR i don't use cb radio btw [04:25] reptilian_thrills MinceR, reptilian_thrills, I still use CB radio btw. <- thats awesome [04:25] *starstreak has quit (Quit: Leaving) [04:25] Helenah There are more BBS users than CB users, MinceR [04:25] Helenah Yes, BBS is still a thing. [04:25] MinceR i used to use bbs btw [04:25] reptilian_thrills i tried to tell roy how to make a bbs [04:26] reptilian_thrills /me used small bbs and mainstream ones btw [04:26] MinceR i don't even know which of the hungarian bbs-es i knew counted as "mainstream" [04:26] Helenah reptilian_thrills, MinceR, https://i.imgur.com/N3n87Ax.jpg [04:26] reptilian_thrills 9600 (ive done lower but never when i had a choice) [04:26] Helenah See the radio on top? :D [04:26] Helenah and the old fashioned tool box! :D [04:27] MinceR i don't even have a rack [04:27] MinceR i don't even have room for one [04:27] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #techrights [04:27] Helenah starstreak: https://i.imgur.com/N3n87Ax.jpg [04:27] Helenah MinceR: I paid 20GBP for that rack brand new. :D [04:27] Helenah No joke! [04:28] starstreak *drools* [04:28] Helenah I made all the cables [04:29] reptilian_thrills starstreak: https://i.imgur.com/N3n87Ax.jpg <- this is super hot [04:29] Helenah My WiFi AP https://i.imgur.com/1FVBebX.jpg [04:29] Helenah Yep it's on the ceiling! :D [04:29] MinceR needs cooling? [04:29] Helenah reptilian_thrills: :D [04:29] Helenah MinceR: Does what need cooling? [04:29] MinceR the rack [04:29] Helenah Nope. [04:29] MinceR since it's "super hot" [04:29] Helenah OH [04:30] Helenah Well [04:30] Helenah starstreak fans it for me with her beauty <3 [04:30] starstreak :3 [04:30] MinceR i have my doubts about the efficacy of that method [04:30] reptilian_thrills yeah if anything that will only make it worse [04:30] reptilian_thrills you arent going to cool anything with girl-on-grill action [04:31] Helenah And speaking of memes I made this a very LONG time ago! https://i.imgur.com/9JGlHC5.jpg [04:31] Helenah Cause I'm crazy [04:32] reptilian_thrills ITS A UNIX SYSTEM! I KNOW THIS! [04:32] reptilian_thrills /me used to have a linucks clone of that sgi file viewer [04:32] MinceR ah-ah-ah! you didn't say the magic word! [04:32] Helenah reptilian_thrills: Speaking of my in-house hypervisor [04:32] reptilian_thrills ah-ah-ah! you didn't say the magic word! <- von NEUMANN!!! [04:32] Helenah Did you know its HDMI and USB cables run through walls and ceilings? [04:33] Helenah And you get this https://i.imgur.com/nOv5RF9.jpg [04:33] Helenah That image there [04:33] Helenah you're looking at a VM [04:33] reptilian_thrills i.t. inception [04:34] Helenah What do you think? :D [04:34] Helenah Like every room the systems in them are all VMs [04:34] Helenah in disguise as physical machines [04:34] Helenah :D [04:34] reptilian_thrills very impressive [04:34] Helenah Like dumb terminals [04:35] Helenah Another dumb terminal, reptilian_thrills https://i.imgur.com/fhU1z52.jpg [04:35] Helenah But with Windows 10 [04:35] Helenah which DaemonFC claimed doesn't work well in a VM... [04:35] Helenah lol [04:35] Helenah claims VMs too slow to run it... [04:35] Helenah lol [04:36] reptilian_thrills wild [04:37] Helenah Better pic of that dumb terminal running GNU/Linux reptilian_thrills https://i.imgur.com/CQnE68a.jpg [04:37] Helenah Notice there is literally no base unit? :D [04:37] Helenah That's cause there isn't one. [04:37] reptilian_thrills youre definitely crazy [04:38] Helenah reptilian_thrills: Yep! [04:38] starstreak Helenah, my desk: https://i.imgur.com/qgyG6Dz.jpg [04:38] Helenah And that phone? it connects to the PBx in the rack [04:38] Helenah 9 to dial out via PSTN, 8 to dial out via GSM [04:38] reptilian_thrills lol [04:38] Helenah So you dial 9 or 8 followed by the phone number of choice. [04:39] Helenah So 999 would be 9999 via PSTN and 8999 via GSM [04:39] reptilian_thrills which number to dial over VOCB [04:39] Helenah starstreak: Nice :D [04:40] reptilian_thrills roy has pictures of his desk too [04:40] reptilian_thrills hundreds, maybe thousands [04:40] starstreak l [04:40] starstreak lol [04:41] reptilian_thrills "youre a tiger! GRRRRR! give me angry! angry! ooh, give me pouting, good, good, now be cheeky! yes! yes! NO! NO! NO!" [04:41] Helenah reptilian_thrills, starstreak, This is my TV, yet another dumb terminal https://i.imgur.com/aHYcJv4.jpg [04:41] Helenah That's my lounge [04:41] reptilian_thrills this is definitely oppalance [04:42] Helenah The cleaner part of the house rather than the trashy hacky mad multiple roomed lab part of the house [04:42] Helenah reptilian_thrills, starstreak, And yet another dumb terminal, same room https://i.imgur.com/Kbi13cG.jpg [04:42] Helenah Told you! [04:42] reptilian_thrills wth [04:42] Helenah My whole house is literally dumb terminals! [04:42] Helenah I wasn't lying... [04:43] reptilian_thrills nope, not lying [04:43] Helenah One single centralised system to power it all [04:43] starstreak Helenah, dumb terminals? [04:43] Helenah starstreak: Yep [04:43] starstreak so everything runs off your hypervisor? [04:43] Helenah And you haven't seen the hot tub yet :D [04:43] Helenah reptilian_thrills: ^ [04:43] reptilian_thrills One single centralised system to power it all <- does the hypervisor run systemd? [04:43] Helenah Yep, I said hot tub! [04:43] Helenah :D [04:43] Helenah reptilian_thrills: No [04:43] Helenah sysvinit [04:43] reptilian_thrills And you haven't seen the hot tub yet :D <- somehow i suspect i never will [04:44] reptilian_thrills sysvinit <- well that hardly fits "One single centralised system to power it all" but good [04:45] Helenah reptilian_thrills: Each dumb terminal has its own GPU card. [04:45] Helenah dedicated to it [04:45] Helenah All the GPU cards are in that rack [04:45] Helenah in one single system [04:45] reptilian_thrills /me is reminded of the video "Get Off" by prince [04:45] reptilian_thrills but techno [04:45] starstreak Helenah, that is so badass [04:46] reptilian_thrills "heres the server rack" <- "thats just john mcaffee holding a blade server" [04:47] reptilian_thrills "yeah, i installed that for starstreak" [04:48] phanes https://external-preview.redd.it/fIikxPA11nC4n-1ahvs5jCVvWxJuvlVC5VA8tV9L5I8.gif?format=mp4&s=dcbab2add10a8cd52bfebdafd5f5af2bdfe7bc4c [04:49] Helenah starstreak, reptilian_thrills, Hot tub https://files.catbox.moe/jaotk0.mp4 [04:49] Helenah phanes: ^ [04:49] *TechrightsBot-tr has quit (connection closed) [04:49] phanes idk Helenah its streaming so slowly i can't even watch it [04:50] Helenah Idk how to make it stream faster... [04:50] *Helenah sighs I'll jsut get a fuckin image [04:50] Helenah I just wanted to show the damn lights! [04:50] Helenah They're like a disco... man... [04:51] phanes im not sure what im looking at [04:51] phanes is this an isolation chamber [04:51] phanes for like sensory-deprivation trips [04:51] Helenah phanes, reptilian_thrills, starstreak https://i.imgur.com/mphCnDl.jpg [04:51] Helenah phanes: It's my spa room [04:51] Helenah Yeah, another room... o.o [04:51] phanes lol [04:51] phanes you should see a movie called "altered states" [04:52] Helenah It has lights that spiral around the room and shit [04:52] Helenah :D [04:52] Helenah and different colours [04:52] Helenah flashing and shit [04:52] Helenah like a disco [04:52] Helenah I haven't seen that. [04:52] phanes oh you gotta watch it [04:53] reptilian_thrills /me plays the fugees saturday night song [04:53] starstreak Helenah, thats pretty awesome [04:54] Helenah starstreak, reptilian_thrills, phanes, Wanna see a second spa room? https://i.imgur.com/AaLIihr.jpg [04:55] Helenah Oh now I'm being revealing! :D [04:55] starstreak Helenah, you have such cool things [04:55] Helenah Thanks :D [04:55] phanes 2 point bonus for the scotch by the tub, 5 point demerit for platic cups [04:55] Helenah phanes: Martini [04:56] phanes 3 point demerit for martini instead of scotch [04:56] Helenah :D [04:56] Helenah I like brandy and scotch [04:56] Helenah and a fuckton of other things too :D [04:56] reptilian_thrills :) [04:56] phanes im just not sure what i would -do- with a spa room tbh [04:57] starstreak Helenah, have you ever tried LSD? [04:57] Helenah starstreak, phanes, reptilian_thrills, And I like to get the publics attention too https://i.imgur.com/YJltqon.jpg [04:57] Helenah Like that [04:57] Helenah :D [04:57] Helenah Except this dude is cool in that he's got a microphine! [04:57] Helenah *microphone [04:57] phanes im not trackin ya [04:58] Helenah phanes: You wont find me... [04:58] Helenah My sewage is pumped upwards, drained downwards... [04:58] Helenah Actually that's bad, it's dead loud... :'( [04:58] phanes is this code for sex things [04:58] Helenah NO [04:58] Helenah I'm meaning literally... [04:58] phanes ok i have no idea what youre trying to say [04:59] Helenah I take a wash and the pump kicks in the moment the water goes through the sink hole [04:59] Helenah I take a dump and flush [04:59] Helenah and loud noise [04:59] Helenah pumping it up into the sewer [04:59] reptilian_thrills lol [04:59] Helenah o.O [04:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 19.20 k/sec., IPFS upstream 37.73 average k/sec., average swarm size 138.66 [04:59] phanes that's not good you should hire contractors to redo that whole setup [04:59] Helenah phanes: How? ● Oct 16 [05:00] phanes or one day you'll come in after something fails just right and have every room filled with overflowing oceans of rotting shit [05:00] reptilian_thrills plumbing in the uk (in my experience) is the weirdest ive seen [05:00] Helenah No no... [05:00] Helenah What I mean is... [05:00] Helenah I live in a space where... [05:00] Helenah the sewer is above [05:00] Helenah and I'm below [05:00] Helenah o.O [05:00] reptilian_thrills that sounds unhealthy [05:00] Helenah Does that make sense now? [05:00] phanes yes that's what im saying [05:00] reptilian_thrills yes perfectly [05:00] Helenah Really? [05:00] reptilian_thrills weird, but it makes sense [05:00] phanes if something fails in that pipeline natural forces will reverse the flow [05:01] reptilian_thrills well, everything is fighting gravity [05:01] Helenah So you come looking for me on ground surface, phanes [05:01] Helenah You will not find me [05:01] Helenah and you'll be like "WTF" [05:01] Helenah Okay? [05:01] Helenah So don't bother [05:01] Helenah you're wasting your time [05:01] phanes no [05:01] Helenah and I ain't even scared to give you my full name, okay? [05:01] phanes what im trying to say is [05:01] phanes you are one bad thunderstorm away from swimming to the surface through feces [05:01] reptilian_thrills /me wonders whos bothering helenah but can guess [05:02] Helenah I'm not bothered. [05:02] Helenah I'm happy :D [05:02] Helenah phanes: Believe me [05:02] Helenah I once threw away a pair of sneakers [05:02] Helenah Because I mean FUCK lol [05:02] Helenah I'd walked through feces [05:02] Helenah sewage up to my leg [05:02] Helenah There was a flood like 2 years ago... [05:02] Helenah and oh god [05:03] phanes lol, so what im describing has already happened then? [05:03] Helenah And mean it's said this place may be underwater by 2050 [05:03] Helenah phanes: The sewer got too erm... [05:03] reptilian_thrills they didnt say greywater... but its greywater [05:03] Helenah too full [05:03] Helenah with rain water [05:03] phanes i wouldn't live there [05:03] Helenah HUGE downpour [05:03] phanes i assume you're somebody's underground prisoner [05:03] Helenah phanes: It was only outside [05:04] Helenah Wait... [05:04] Helenah o.O [05:04] Helenah I'm nobody's prisoner... [05:04] Helenah I went to get some AIR [05:04] Helenah and I was like WTF with what I saw... [05:04] Helenah o.O [05:04] Helenah Water pressure from too much rain had popped a manhole cover off [05:05] phanes ive noticed that living in houses with stairs stresses me out [05:05] Helenah and out flooding came sewage [05:05] phanes i need to be at ground level in houses with a long horizontal run [05:05] phanes i would imagine being underground would be stressful like thatr [05:05] reptilian_thrills sewage up to my leg <- "i got the POO on me..." [05:06] Helenah Then the next thing the Government turns up to disinfect the ground... [05:06] reptilian_thrills so this is your origin story? [05:06] Helenah They were picking up feces to get rid off and spraying a disinfectant [05:06] phanes lol [05:06] Helenah reptilian_thrills: A what story? [05:06] reptilian_thrills its definitely messier than most of them [05:06] phanes the story of how you got your powers [05:06] reptilian_thrills well, you have super powers [05:06] reptilian_thrills or pooers [05:06] reptilian_thrills this is how it happened? [05:06] Helenah Oh my super pooers, those! [05:07] Helenah No [05:07] Helenah Wait, whaT? [05:07] *Helenah is confused now [05:07] reptilian_thrills youre obviously above average in a number of ways [05:07] reptilian_thrills a super woman if you will [05:07] phanes with super poo [05:07] reptilian_thrills but this is one messy origin story [05:07] Helenah Oh my girl pooers! [05:07] Helenah Right I see! [05:08] phanes Helenah, are you a woman or a man in irl who is a woman on irc [05:08] reptilian_thrills maybe it was the super poo [05:08] reptilian_thrills id prefer a radioactive spider given the choice [05:08] reptilian_thrills but the wand chooses the wizard, after all [05:08] Helenah phanes: woman [05:08] phanes ok but i mean [05:08] phanes this is irc [05:08] Helenah Well on IRC I'm a man, no?? [05:08] *phanes shrugs [05:08] Helenah But irl I'm a woman, right? [05:09] Helenah Isn't that right, reptilian_thrills? [05:09] reptilian_thrills i mean if you want, just let me know if youre serious so i can use the pronouns you want [05:09] Helenah It's me trying to avoid arguing whose a woman and whose a man. :D [05:09] Helenah lol [05:09] Helenah It doesn't matter really [05:09] reptilian_thrills otherwise mjg will beat me with this thalidamide arms [05:09] phanes it matters a great deal what gender a person is [05:09] Helenah Not to the extent that like we erm... you know what... yeah, you're right, it matters a huge deal! :D [05:09] phanes not just for their personal identity but in how that identity integrates socially with other identities [05:10] Helenah So I'm going to do my little trick for you all [05:10] *Helenah whips down her panties and flashes [05:10] reptilian_thrills w00t [05:10] Helenah lol [05:11] Helenah phanes: Anyway, yeah, so jokes aside... I'm a woman. :D [05:11] Helenah phanes: And this is me enjoying petting my pet goat named Jasper. https://i.imgur.com/QBO2Mky.jpg [05:12] reptilian_thrills say what you will about roy, i do, but he has the best irc channel on the internet [05:12] phanes im confused how do you have a goat underground [05:12] Helenah You clearly didn't click then, phanes :D [05:13] Helenah Truth is I don't own a goat. [05:14] reptilian_thrills i dont own a goat either [05:14] reptilian_thrills zoning laws would forbid it [05:14] reptilian_thrills you sound like you might get away with it [05:14] reptilian_thrills if you had a pet crocodile you could just say "it followed me home" [05:15] Helenah lol [05:15] reptilian_thrills "must be downstream" [05:15] reptilian_thrills granted as pets, crocodiles are a bit stroppy [05:15] Helenah reptilian_thrills, phanes, starstreak, https://i.imgur.com/P1dfgGS.jpg [05:16] Helenah brb coffee [05:16] reptilian_thrills ill say [05:16] reptilian_thrills /me has some too just to be safe [05:17] phanes i was just thinking i want some espresso but then saw what time it was [05:17] Helenah Skip the coffee, I found a nice joint. [05:17] Helenah Oh yeah that tastes nice! :D [05:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [05:21] phanes so excited [05:21] phanes i pawned my gibson les paul like 11 or 12 years ago when i was poor [05:21] Helenah I feel a bit sick [05:21] Helenah lol [05:21] phanes and by the time i had enough to get it out it was sold [05:21] phanes but i tracked it down recently and bought it [05:21] phanes and it arrives tomorrow [05:21] Helenah I think it had been laying around for a while, it tasted a bit... funny [05:22] Helenah Does anyone know how to fix the "Too many files in a single directory" problem? [05:22] phanes Helenah, what OS? [05:22] reptilian_thrills yes [05:22] Helenah GNU/Linux ofc [05:22] reptilian_thrills delete them, slowly [05:22] Helenah . [05:22] phanes Helenah, what filesystem and what exact error [05:22] reptilian_thrills or copy to another partition and format [05:22] reptilian_thrills or run hdparm [05:22] Helenah Well... it's that problem where shit crashes when it tries indexing it all like ls command for example [05:23] reptilian_thrills i would offer more details but i dont run linucks [05:23] reptilian_thrills dont use ls [05:23] phanes yeah but what filesystem [05:23] Helenah Literally indexed like 5 directories [05:23] Helenah no files [05:23] phanes ntfs, ext4, fat [05:23] Helenah in that directory [05:23] reptilian_thrills weird [05:23] Helenah but there are 100,000s of files and directories [05:23] Helenah Cause too many for it to process... [05:24] reptilian_thrills i mean if you give me access over ssh ill try to sort it out for you, but theres literally no reason you should trust me [05:24] Helenah I give up with this nonsense... [05:24] reptilian_thrills you CAN trust me, but i wouldnt [05:24] phanes ls -U avoids the sorting which will be most of the slowdown [05:24] starstreak reptilian_thrills, you don't use ls? what do you use? [05:24] Helenah brb reboot [05:24] reptilian_thrills well i dont have this problem, so ls works fine [05:24] reptilian_thrills also my version of ls isnt her version of ls [05:24] reptilian_thrills as you know [05:25] phanes are you some busybox dweeb or something [05:25] starstreak phanes, he uses openbsd [05:25] phanes i thought he ran arch [05:25] phanes or was that you [05:25] starstreak i use arch linucks btw [05:29] Helenah I'm back [05:29] Helenah and I got coffee on [05:29] Helenah and I checked battery reserves [05:29] Helenah and they're doing good [05:29] reptilian_thrills so ive figured you out now [05:29] Helenah so at least I don't need to worry about power [05:29] reptilian_thrills youre an australian [05:29] reptilian_thrills but you live in the uk [05:29] Helenah I'd hate it if I couldn't brew coffee due to no reserves [05:30] reptilian_thrills /me just uses instant [05:30] Helenah It goes off too quickly [05:30] Helenah therefore is difficult to store [05:30] Helenah It turns into a goop as the air gets to it... [05:30] reptilian_thrills in a jar? [05:30] Helenah Yep even in a jar eventually [05:30] reptilian_thrills okay [05:31] starstreak what about the freezer? [05:31] reptilian_thrills is it hard to get to the shop, or are you prepping for the day that bill gates shows us the mothership [05:32] reptilian_thrills starstreak, you know his wifes name? not melinda, i mean his REAL wife [05:32] starstreak Queen Reptoid? [05:32] reptilian_thrills i was gonna say "liz" [05:32] reptilian_thrills get it? [05:32] starstreak lol [05:33] reptilian_thrills :D [05:33] starstreak Liz the lizard [05:33] Helenah reptilian_thrills, starstreak, phanes, https://i.imgur.com/MF3g9NT.jpg https://i.imgur.com/8pOxIDu.jpg https://i.imgur.com/jsFEBrF.jpg https://i.imgur.com/yTRhNaB.jpg [05:34] starstreak Helenah, is that your tower? [05:38] Helenah starstreak: That's 4 towers https://i.imgur.com/NFO8gTa.jpg [05:39] Helenah https://i.imgur.com/2u188PY.jpg [05:40] starstreak those are all your towers? [05:41] Helenah starstreak: No [05:42] Helenah That facility uses way more power than my battery reserves can handle. [05:42] starstreak oh lol so you're sharing random towers? [05:42] Helenah Well not "random" [05:42] reptilian_thrills why is everything on batteries? [05:42] Helenah starstreak: It's a relay station. [05:43] Helenah reptilian_thrills: My entire premise is on batteries. o.O [05:43] reptilian_thrills yes, but why? [05:43] Helenah That's my means of electricity... [05:43] reptilian_thrills what charges them? [05:44] reptilian_thrills or watt charges them (yuk yuk yuk) [05:44] starstreak "That's crazy man, have you ever tried DMT?" -Joe Rogan [05:44] reptilian_thrills /me yanks himself off the stage [05:45] reptilian_thrills no, not like that [05:45] Helenah Solar, wind, geothermal. And gas? That would be anaerobic digestion [05:45] reptilian_thrills you found the weirdest place in the uk and moved there [05:45] Helenah Oh and there's backup supply for electricity for if those aren't options. [05:45] reptilian_thrills that or you were born there [05:46] Helenah Yeah well I'm not hit by the fuel crisis [05:46] Helenah I'd rather that... [05:46] reptilian_thrills points for that! [05:46] reptilian_thrills i pity the fuel [05:46] Helenah Everyone in the UK is complaining about sky high bills and that they can't afford them. [05:46] Helenah Me? I'm not with a single energy board. [05:46] Helenah and it's the energy board having them cry. [05:47] reptilian_thrills heh [05:47] Helenah Russia [05:47] Helenah They basically er... [05:47] Helenah Well the war with Ukraine and all that lol [05:47] Helenah And there are cool stuff going on in house [05:48] Helenah The production of sodium hydroxide, sodium chlorate, sodium hypochlorite, chlorine gas, hydrogen gas [05:48] Helenah well hydrogen and chlorine gas are collected, not produced [05:48] Helenah but okies [05:48] Helenah Then there is the CO2 supply [05:49] Helenah CO2 is a byproduct of anaerobic digestion [05:49] Helenah sodium hydroxide, sodium chlorate, sodium hydrochlorite, chlorine gas and hydrogen gas are products of electrolysis of saline (H2O + Sodium Chloride) [05:50] Helenah sodium chlorate and sodium hypochlorite are household bleach [05:50] Helenah Sodium hydroxide can be used to make soap to wash with [05:50] Helenah CO2 can be used to fizz up homebrew [05:51] Helenah From the anaerobic digestion process, not only do I get CO2 but also biomethane [05:51] Helenah Then there is the fertiliser for plants [05:51] reptilian_thrills helenah is doctor who [05:52] Helenah Rain water is collected, filtered and then drank [05:52] reptilian_thrills her home is bigger on the inside, and all this science stuff just to flush to the loo [05:52] reptilian_thrills definitely from the planet of the timelords [05:52] Helenah o.O [05:52] phanes for poo that runs upwards [05:52] *Helenah chokes on her coffee [05:52] Helenah phanes: That isn't what I said happened though... [05:53] Helenah Like I said, I went outside for air [05:53] Helenah to find everywhere had flooded [05:53] Helenah and manhole covered had been blown off via water pressure [05:53] Helenah from a heavy down pour [05:53] phanes the great poo flood of 20 ought 6 [05:53] Helenah which resulted in floods containing feces [05:53] Helenah It wasn't in my premise. [05:54] reptilian_thrills you know you could throw off collectors and door to door salespeople if you built a decoy next to your real premise [05:54] reptilian_thrills but that would be a false premise [05:55] Helenah reptilian_thrills: How much do you think I spend on vitamin C? [05:55] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [05:55] reptilian_thrills i dunno, i keep saying they should put it in drugs so that more people get enough vitamin c [05:55] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #techrights [05:55] Helenah I spend zero amounts of money on fruit and vegetables. [05:56] Helenah But eat plenty of them [05:56] *phanes wonders wtf a vegetable is [05:57] starstreak my diet is eggs, english muffins, and chicken fingers [05:57] phanes i think those are made from those "sal lid" things my doctor keeps saying i need to eat [05:57] Helenah Here is a test report on some of my levels, no vitamins included though to show I have good health [05:57] Helenah Urea and electrolytes: [05:57] Helenah Name Result Normal Range [05:57] Helenah Serum sodium 141 mmol/L 133 - 146 mmol/L [05:58] Helenah Serum potassium 4.2 mmol/L 3.5 - 5.3 mmol/L [05:58] Helenah Serum urea level 4.6 mmol/L 2.5 - 7.8 mmol/L [05:58] Helenah Serum creatinine 78 umol/L 45 - 84 umol/L [05:58] Helenah GFR calculated abbreviated MDRD > 90 ml/min/1.73sqm N/A [05:58] Helenah Serum lipids: [05:58] Helenah Name Result Normal Range [05:58] Helenah Serum cholesterol 4.59 mmol/L < 5.01 mmol/L [05:58] Helenah Serum HDL cholesterol level 1.6 mmol/L > 1 mmol/L [05:58] Helenah Serum cholesterol/HDL ratio 2.9 N/A [05:58] Helenah Bone profile: [05:58] Helenah Name Result Normal Range [05:58] Helenah Serum alkaline phosphatase 87 U/L 30 - 130 U/L [05:58] Helenah Serum albumin 51 g/L 35 - 50 g/L [05:58] Helenah Serum inorganic phosphate 1.16 mmol/L 0.8 - 1.5 mmol/L [05:58] Helenah Serum calcium 2.44 mmol/L N/A [05:58] Helenah Calcium adjusted level 2.37 mmol/L 2.2 - 2.6 mmol/L [05:58] phanes ya know i was just thinking it would be good to know someone's creatinine levels on irc [05:59] whitenigga thats right nigga [05:59] Helenah And more [05:59] Helenah Liver function test: [05:59] Helenah Name Result Normal Range [05:59] Helenah Serum total bilirubin level < 5 umol/L 0 - 21 umol/L [05:59] Helenah Serum ALT level 21 U/L 0 - 33 U/L [05:59] Helenah Serum gamma GT level 12 U/L 0 - 42 U/L [05:59] Helenah Serum total protein 72 g/L 60 - 80 g/L [05:59] Helenah And even more [05:59] Helenah Full blood count - FBC: [05:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.11 k/sec., IPFS upstream 57.70 average k/sec., average swarm size 139.33 [05:59] Helenah Name Result Normal Range [05:59] Helenah Total white blood cell count 5.8 10*9/l 4 - 11 10*9/l [05:59] Helenah Haemoglobin estimation 155 g/L 115 - 165 g/L [05:59] Helenah Platelet count 299 10*9/l 140 - 440 10*9/l [05:59] Helenah Red blood cell (RBC) count 4.99 10*12/l 3.8 - 5.8 10*12/l [05:59] Helenah Haematocrit 0.445 Ratio 0.37 - 0.47 Ratio [05:59] Helenah Mean corpuscular volume (MCV) 89.2 fl 82 - 98 fl [05:59] Helenah Mean corpusc haemoglobin (MCH) 31.1 pg 27 - 32 pg [05:59] Helenah Red blood cell distribute width 12 % 11.8 - 14 % [05:59] Helenah Neutrophil count 3.03 10*9/l 16 - 7.5 10*9/l [05:59] Helenah Lymphocyte count 1.98 10*9/l 1 - 4 10*9/l [05:59] Helenah Monocyte count 0.52 10*9/l 0.2 - 1 10*9/l [05:59] Helenah Eosinophil count 0.23 10*9/l 0.04 - 0.44 10*9/l [05:59] Helenah Basophil count 0.04 10*9/l 0 - 0.1 10*9/l [05:59] Helenah Nucleated red blood cell count 0 10*9/l 0 - 0.01 10*9/l ● Oct 16 [06:01] Helenah Blueprints for a viral vector https://i.imgur.com/sQ8Eudm.png [06:01] Helenah reptilian_thrills: ^ [06:02] reptilian_thrills /me doesnt understand this stuff [06:02] Helenah I can explain what the viral vector does, just I do not dare. [06:02] reptilian_thrills my diet is eggs, english muffins, and chicken fingers <- sounds good [06:02] whitenigga thats a lot of scientific data [06:02] Helenah Okay I'll just say it! [06:03] Helenah It does a DMRT1 knock out... [06:03] reptilian_thrills thats crazy man, have you ever tried dmrt1? [06:03] reptilian_thrills /me thinks it looks like "dmitri" [06:04] Helenah DMRT1 (Doublesex And Mab-3 Related Transcription Factor 1) is a Protein Coding gene. Diseases associated with DMRT1 include 46,Xy Sex Reversal 4 and Germ Cell Tumor. Among its related pathways are Mammalian disorder of sexual development and Nervous system development. Gene Ontology (GO) annotations related to this gene include DNA-binding transcription factor activity and [06:04] Helenah sequence-specific DNA binding. An important paralog of this gene is DMRTA1. [06:04] whitenigga that sounds like some 1337 talk [06:04] *reptilian_thrills has quit (connection closed) [06:04] phanes i was rading the other day that people with o blood types live longer and are healthier on average [06:04] Helenah phanes: I'm O negative [06:04] Helenah Let me get some data for that [06:04] phanes same [06:05] *reptilian_thrills (~reptilian_thrills@vfktmd5sjuqfi.irc) has joined #techrights [06:05] phanes just wanted reptilian_thrills to know that i'll live a long time too [06:05] Helenah Here's the data for my blood type, phanes and reptilian_thrills https://i.imgur.com/QR7wDXX.png https://i.imgur.com/mza1Ymr.png [06:06] Helenah See? [06:06] starstreak phanes, is that because you worship molock? [06:06] reptilian_thrills so simple a child could do it [06:06] phanes starstreak, no i just o- blood [06:06] starstreak moloch* [06:07] phanes i lucked out genetically [06:07] Helenah The data for my red hair https://i.imgur.com/EF2RBMv.png [06:07] phanes everyone in my family is smart, tall and strong [06:07] Helenah I'm 5'4 [06:07] Helenah 1min I got data [06:07] phanes im the shortest in my family and am 6'2" [06:08] whitenigga phanes: you're really pompus dawg [06:08] Helenah Height: 5'4 [06:08] Helenah Weight: 60 kg [06:08] Helenah Waist: 36 inch (91.44 cm) - (Size 12, Medium) [06:08] phanes whitenigga, yeah sorry about being objectively superior in every way you care about lol [06:08] Helenah Bust: 40 inch (101.6 cm) - (Size 16, Large) [06:08] Helenah Hips: 38 inch (96.52 cm) - (Size 12, Medium) [06:08] Helenah Under Bust: 38 inch (88.9 cm) [06:08] Helenah Inside Leg: 24 inch (Short) [06:08] Helenah WHR: 0.95 [06:08] Helenah Cup Size: 38B [06:08] Helenah There's the data ^ [06:08] reptilian_thrills :) [06:08] Helenah I'm packed with data, right? [06:09] phanes Helenah, autist? [06:09] Helenah phanes: Yes I am! [06:09] reptilian_thrills like marathon with peanuts [06:09] Helenah And I recently made a discovery during research yesterday [06:09] Helenah that I have a higher amount of dopamine transporters within my brain. [06:09] reptilian_thrills are you a geneticist or just a crazy genius? [06:09] Helenah I got the data [06:09] Helenah 1min [06:09] whitenigga phanes master race [06:09] whitenigga sounds like a nazi [06:10] phanes whitenigga, no just naturally well bred cattle [06:10] reptilian_thrills i think the third reich jury was on the fence about gingers [06:10] starstreak phanes, did the freemasons pick your parents? [06:11] Helenah reptilian_thrills: Here's the data https://files.catbox.moe/ukvv3c.jpg [06:11] Helenah data data data [06:11] phanes starstreak, im a 4th gen so, kinda, but not the way you're implying [06:11] Helenah phanes: Well you are still a good model for me :3 [06:11] Helenah I'll keep you going forever! :D [06:11] starstreak phanes, your mom was selected because of her genes and hooked up with your father because of his genes [06:12] phanes starstreak, yeah like any other couple selects each other [06:12] starstreak your mom was introduced to your dad at a masonic event [06:12] phanes when your ma-maw picked great grampy for his big ole cattle prod that was gene selection [06:12] Helenah SLC6A3 is the gene I studies. [06:12] Helenah *studies [06:13] Helenah I have the SLC6A3 genotype indicative of heightened dopamine transporters within the brain. [06:13] Helenah Which I was able to come up with a solution for. [06:13] phanes starstreak, actually though my parents met when my mom took one of my dad's classes in college [06:13] phanes i was there [06:14] Helenah So my ADHD medicine is vitamin D3 [06:14] phanes my mom went to high school with my biological father [06:14] Helenah Not the stupid whiz they prescribe... [06:14] whitenigga phanes, so your dad preys on students? [06:14] phanes whitenigga, it was a college class and she was 21 [06:14] phanes he was 29 [06:14] Helenah Oh Fred Talbot was a biology student but a pedophile too, he was probably not only teaching sex but having the kids do it too, demonstrating to the boys have penises work by giving them blowjobs. [06:14] Helenah *teacher [06:15] Helenah "This is how you do a gobble with it" [06:15] Helenah "Step 1 blah blah blah" [06:15] Helenah lol [06:15] phanes "an instructive snarlin'" [06:15] Helenah "Now to use a mouse model to put it into perspective" [06:15] Helenah lol [06:16] *Helenah shortens whitenigga's telomeres [06:16] whitenigga Helenah: what? [06:17] *reptilian_thrills has quit (connection closed) [06:17] phanes so who is whitenigga and why does he randomly alternate between brooding in silence and looking for shit to morph around into negative validation [06:17] Helenah whitenigga: They're the caps on the ends of your chromosomes which protect your DNA from damage but they get shorter and shorter as you age until your DNA is finally broken into by the environment. [06:17] phanes i heard NDA+ is good for telomeres but i question the science now [06:17] Helenah Cause I shortened them, you will probably only live until the age of 40, at the age of 40, you will look 80. [06:18] Helenah phanes: Do NOT try to make them last longer! [06:18] Helenah Just be healthy... [06:18] phanes i took it for like 2 years [06:18] Helenah Any science claiming to make them last longer could be pseudoscience or something properly researched, it may even have an opposite effect shortening your lifespan... [06:18] phanes i have to admit i haven't been as healthy since [06:19] Helenah Even Radiotherapy shortens the telomeres, that equates to premature aging [06:19] Helenah faster aging [06:19] Helenah looking older than your actual years [06:19] Helenah And so you die earlier [06:19] phanes i got lucky on that [06:19] whitenigga phanes: cuz im whitenigga dawg [06:19] Helenah What happens if you delete 100% of your genome? Google won't give you the answer but I know it. [06:19] phanes whitenigga, you nobody, stfu [06:19] Helenah Your body turns necrotic as it can no longer maintain itself [06:19] Helenah It basically just... rots away, you get blood poisoning [06:19] Helenah followed by multi organ failure [06:20] whitenigga phanes: why u gotta be so rude dawg [06:20] Helenah it's a very painful death then you die [06:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [06:20] Helenah whitenigga: Why you got to say "dawg", dawg? [06:21] phanes i think he's just needing some attention [06:21] phanes nobody using the name "whitenigga" isn't trying to signal [06:21] whitenigga Helenah: thats the way i talk yo [06:21] phanes a cry for help, really [06:23] DaemonFC Comcast says expect downtime on Wednesday while they "upgrade" their system. [06:23] phanes anyway whitenigga so what do you do? are you like a sociologist or something [06:24] whitenigga i work in IT dawg and i also DJ on the side [06:24] whitenigga my trunk is full of mad albumz yo [06:24] phanes whitenigga, what do you do in IT [06:24] whitenigga systems admin [06:25] whitenigga a bit of help desk too [06:25] phanes that's a rough life yo [06:25] whitenigga "did you try turning it off and back on again?" [06:26] phanes how long have you been doing it [06:26] whitenigga 11 years [06:26] phanes and youre still in helpdesk [06:27] whitenigga systems admin mostly [06:27] whitenigga not the same job for 11 years [06:27] Helenah "did you try turning it off and back on again?" How old are your customers? They sound like they're 90 years old.... [06:27] whitenigga they're doctors [06:27] phanes no you wouldn't believe how dumb corporate users are Helenah [06:27] Helenah "doctors"... [06:27] Helenah oh [06:27] *reptilian_thrills (~reptilian_thrills@dhtuut2efm55y.irc) has joined #techrights [06:28] phanes nothing like getting an escalation all the way to c-suite that ends in a screenshare only to find out the problem is the user forgot their fuckin password [06:29] Helenah Thing is, everything that can be solved with a reboot can be solved by avoiding the reboot but resorting to a reboot is only a workaround and the problem will come back at some point. [06:29] whitenigga some einstein thought it would be a good idea to give 80 year old doctors a surface pro with super tiny text [06:29] Helenah So you haven't really supported your customers properly, have you, whitenigga? [06:29] Helenah You just told them how to work around an issue but you didn't fix it, did you? [06:29] Helenah So you're as dumb fucked as they are! [06:29] *reptilian_thrills has quit (connection closed) [06:29] *reptilian_thrills (~reptilian_thrills@dhtuut2efm55y.irc) has joined #techrights [06:29] phanes most sysadmin stuff can be automated but the people who could and would do that get bogged down by the riff raff that climb out of that cesspool [06:30] Helenah Lets say I'm talking to a mechanic... [06:30] phanes the whole "reboot it" thing is a decent workaround for some issues when you dont have access to the product source code, and often you don't [06:30] Helenah I'm not simply going to go on about RAM and CPUs cause it will confuse them... [06:30] Helenah So what I do is I change the wording slightly to represent car parts [06:30] Helenah and then they get a better understanding and more confident with what they're dealing with then. [06:30] Helenah No joke [06:31] Helenah It works [06:32] Helenah phanes: That's fair enough but most "reboot it" cases, that's not the issue and can be fixed properly. [06:33] Helenah For example most people who run an OS of the desktop market run Windows and will install loads of crap on there and end up with loads of malware and shit and also screw up their registry. [06:34] Helenah And this can be fixed without a reboot, without a reinstall in most cases. [06:34] Helenah This is the most likely thing the customer has done wrong is screwed up their own system. [06:34] Helenah And it's just a case of cleaning up all that mess. [06:35] phanes when i was in that space most of my environments were too locked down for that [06:35] Helenah Thin clients or something? [06:35] Helenah deep freeze? [06:35] phanes no i just learned how gpo worked and has DSS to rely on [06:35] phanes *had [06:35] Helenah The college I studied at, a simple reboot would wipe a virus off the systems. [06:35] Helenah It was hilarious [06:36] phanes you can hella lock a windows machine down with group policy [06:36] Helenah you could infect the whole college and they'd only have to reboot all the systems... [06:36] Helenah no joke [06:36] Helenah and the systems would come back up with a clean slate. :D [06:36] Helenah That's how resiliant they had their setup. [06:36] phanes yeah netboot is cool [06:36] Helenah It would never defrag [06:36] Helenah phanes: It was deep freeze [06:37] Helenah Basically the system always has a shadow copy which is copied to make a main copy, on reboot, the main copy is wiped and recreated from the shadow. [06:37] Helenah That's how their systems worked, they weren't even thin clients, they had disks. [06:37] phanes my college wasn't anywhere near that thought out [06:37] phanes they would tie peoples' real names to their pre-registered mac addresses [06:37] *frog has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [06:37] phanes and would take disciplinary action purely on that [06:37] phanes we had a field day with it [06:37] Helenah Even WannaCry held them ransom, they simply rebooted and WannaCry was gone. [06:38] Helenah While the Government was struggling [06:38] Helenah You had doctors and nurses paying it just so they could continue helping patients who urgently needed care right away. [06:38] Helenah It was horrible [06:38] Helenah but yeah college was WannaCry infectable and WannaCry resiliant at the same time. :D [06:39] DaemonFC I'm a really "see good in bad" kind of a guy though. [06:39] *frog (~frog@geta5bxg5ug98.irc) has joined #techrights [06:39] DaemonFC When I was going bungie jumping, I scheduled something really unpleasant for a few weeks after. [06:39] DaemonFC That way if the cord snapped, at least I didn't have to do that other thing. [06:40] phanes it was especially fun on that lan because not only did they assume who you were based on your mac address but they would assign your rdns to contain that name, so you could literally just dump a list of names and associated mac addresses, we had written software by the end of it that could boot people off or take over their connection as them [06:40] Helenah phanes: Not only that but how they were installing their systems was they'd simply dd this image to the HDD and stick it inside the machine simple as that. [06:40] phanes yeah sounds like tftp based [06:41] Helenah There was no tftp [06:41] Helenah there was no PXE [06:41] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [06:41] Helenah There was no netboot of any kind [06:42] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@uax6j9r5apawe.irc) has joined #techrights [06:42] Helenah The image they dd to the HDD is a system that has a shadow copy of windows, when the system is turned on, a main copy of that shadow is created on the HDD and the main copy is booted [06:42] Helenah Upon next start up or next shut down that old main is wiped and re-created from the shadow [06:42] Helenah That's literally it, phanes [06:43] Helenah So if virus infects main Windows system then it's only destroyed later on when replaced with the shadow. [06:43] phanes hrm [06:44] Helenah And they couldn't install software on them, they would have to create a new image then dd that image to the HDD of each system [06:44] Helenah Actually it could be installed but next reboot would wipe it [06:45] Helenah The systems that weren't very secure were the kiosk systems in the library. [06:45] Helenah The damn login manager and session manager was wrote in delphi. [06:45] Helenah It was the same setup but the extra software was those managers [06:46] Helenah So custom login screen, once in your session is on a countdown then it kicks you out [06:46] Helenah But if you booked in at this booking system, you could set for longer time, the default for half hour. [06:46] starstreak linucks [06:46] Helenah It would tell you which computer your session is allocated to you and when you could use it, so it gave date and time. [06:47] Helenah But you wanna know what I discovered? [06:47] Helenah While it's busy logging in... [06:47] Helenah pull the ethernet cable, it drops you into local admin account. [06:47] Helenah Why? Because the custom login screen was started as local admin which is stupid. [06:47] Helenah and it had bugs like that [06:48] Helenah and you could also kill the session manager once logged in with Task Manager, that also brought you into the admin account too. [06:48] Helenah I actually reported it because I'm not an arse. [06:48] Helenah I knew how to fix it [06:49] Helenah They just needed to do a regedit to change the binary used for login to the one of the custom login, that way Windows would've just started the login manager directly instead of as a user and there would be no account to down into then. [06:49] Helenah winlogin.exe is the default binary which you'd change to the executable of your login manager. [06:50] phanes yeah that'd do it [06:50] Helenah The college was stupid, this physician who was supposed to have retired was offered a new career path within the college, working as network manager [06:50] Helenah and he was enthused by it and took it without having a single fuck about what to do [06:50] Helenah and he basically patched an infrastructure together... [06:51] Helenah naming servers ridiculous names like polonium.campus.local, cadmium.campus.local, plutonium.campus.local and so on. [06:51] Helenah I mean't physicist [06:53] Helenah So in the end he had a very late retirement [06:53] Helenah But he shouldn't have taken that job... [06:53] Helenah There was no training offered or anything and he took it... :/ [06:54] Helenah Nice guy though, really nice guy! :D [06:55] Helenah The deep freeze stuff though, it was robust, no joke! [06:55] Helenah And for some reason he was keeping a personal vintage machine running on a KVM switch within the damn server room. LOL [06:55] Helenah It was running Windows 95 [06:56] Helenah And he wrote scripts to add student network drives via MS-DOS prompt, WTF [06:56] Helenah That sounds dodgy if you ask me... [06:57] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR2], Did you see those "hologram booths" Google was showing off? [06:58] Helenah DaemonFC: starstreak saw you playing with your chest hair while you were proud that you ate plenty of white bread for it. [06:58] DaemonFC WTF does that even mean? [06:58] Helenah Have you never heard the saying that bread crust puts hairs on your chest? It's actually bullshit but funny. [06:59] DaemonFC No, I haven't. [06:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.41 k/sec., IPFS upstream 79.61 average k/sec., average swarm size 98.65 [06:59] DaemonFC Apparently there's a Windows 11 VM image that is 20 GB compressed. [06:59] Helenah It was one of those things you tell kids to get them to eat their food. ● Oct 16 [07:00] starstreak It was running Windows 95 <- i got windows 3.11 working on the internet [07:00] Helenah So in this case it's used against boys who claim to dislike breast crust. [07:00] Helenah starstreak: That's fine but on a college network is not. [07:00] DaemonFC Honestly, I could have probably just done one up using that Virtual XP mode. [07:00] DaemonFC Assuming IE 8 would still connect to Walmart's Web server. Probably not. [07:01] Helenah You shouldn't be using IE 8!!! [07:01] Helenah o.O [07:01] Helenah That's... old... [07:01] DaemonFC I know. [07:01] DaemonFC I only needed to connect to one Web site and then close the fucking thing. [07:01] Helenah So stop using it then and stop making excuses to use it... [07:01] DaemonFC The only other way to load it is go to the HR office, which I can't because I'm not him. [07:02] DaemonFC So we had to load it on my computer somehow. [07:02] Helenah You're doing something without someone elses consent? That's terrible man... [07:02] DaemonFC No, he was here with me. [07:02] DaemonFC He logged in. [07:02] Helenah So why can't he go to the HR office then? [07:02] DaemonFC I can't. [07:02] Helenah Or at least look for a way in which you can do it on his behalf? [07:03] Helenah I said "he" [07:03] Helenah not "you" [07:03] DaemonFC I was looking at his benefit options and seeing what we needed for the next year. [07:03] DaemonFC Yes, when you're married it gets weird. [07:03] Helenah You could've jeopardised his privacy... :/ [07:03] DaemonFC Because sometimes they need your dental, but you need their vision and health insurance, or something. [07:03] Helenah phanes: I'm right here in what I'm saying, right? [07:04] DaemonFC Well, IE 11 connected to the site and worked. [07:04] Helenah If there is an IE 8 backdoor then you could've just given information to some man in the middle... [07:04] DaemonFC You're right! Walmart should stop using an ActiveX control for the beneficiary page! [07:05] DaemonFC This is obviously some old relic that they built 20 years ago and never replaced. [07:06] *phanes shrugs [07:06] phanes im not in windowsland [07:06] phanes been a long time since ive needed to be [07:06] Helenah "Microsoft warns of hole in Video ActiveX control" [07:06] *whitenigga has quit (Quit: leaving) [07:06] Helenah Even Microsoft themselves are saying that it has a hole... [07:06] Helenah So Walmart are clearly even ignoring the vender of the OS on their machines... [07:07] phanes its prob more simpler that they just are really slow to change what systems they use [07:07] DaemonFC Yes, because they instruct you to access it in IE Mode on Edge. [07:07] phanes they were still using mainframes until like 8 years ago or so [07:07] Helenah "ActiveX is a deprecated software framework created by Microsoft that adapts its earlier Component Object Model (COM) and Object Linking and Embedding (OLE)" [07:07] DaemonFC The only problem is that since GNU/Linux doesn't have Internet Explorer, Edge on "Linux" has no IE Mode. [07:07] Helenah Wikipedia notes that it's deprecated. [07:08] phanes you can run ie in wine [07:08] Helenah I don't know, you could have unknowingly given information about that guy to someone else. [07:08] DaemonFC As part of Windows 11, IE will be patched until 2029. [07:08] DaemonFC But only to address security holes. [07:08] Helenah Surely that's a valid reason to just boycott walmart, tell him to boycott walmart man! [07:08] Helenah It isn't worth the risk [07:08] Helenah seriously [07:08] phanes their embedded ie product is also still supported [07:08] DaemonFC And to keep it able to connect to HTTPS sites. [07:08] Helenah I'm not kidding here... [07:09] phanes these companies have gotten so big that boycotts wont work [07:09] phanes the only thing that'll really teach them are red teams [07:09] Helenah phanes: I wasn't meaning it for that reason [07:09] DaemonFC Yeah, literally all IE Mode does is embed Trident on the Chromium Edge shell instead of the Internet Explorer shell. [07:09] Helenah I'm meaning it to avoid handing information unknowingly to other people [07:09] Helenah DaemonFC is using backdoored software to access a Walmart website... [07:10] DaemonFC So you're basically using IE, vulnerabilities and all, in Internet Explorer mode. [07:10] Helenah and he's doing it on behalf of someone else. [07:10] DaemonFC It's not just a "Mode" that pretends to be IE, it's IE. [07:10] Helenah Which could land DaemonFC in shit... [07:10] Helenah if that other persons data gets abused by some third person... [07:10] Helenah I'm not kidding!!!!!! [07:10] DaemonFC Walmart's application is written for IE. [07:11] DaemonFC And you MUST use it or you can't set your beneficiaries. [07:11] phanes hippa laws only apply to orgs that handle medical data [07:11] Helenah It shouldn't be wrote for IE, it should be wrote for the major web browsers... [07:11] DaemonFC The only difference if you access it at work is you open MSIE and load it there instead. [07:11] Helenah It's just a damn beneficiary website man... [07:11] Helenah It doesn't need to be IE-specific [07:11] DaemonFC Yeah, tell that to the Borg. [07:11] Helenah I'm telling it to you... [07:12] Helenah because you're the one inputting someone elses credentials into backdoored software... [07:12] DaemonFC There are no paper forms. [07:12] Helenah and you will be in big trouble if those credentials get into the wrong hands... [07:12] Helenah And you excuse your behaviour... [07:12] Helenah and it's not fair on that other person... [07:12] Helenah You need a damn reality check... [07:12] DaemonFC His credentials already are in the wrong hands. We had to lock his credit reports and put fraud alerts on them. [07:13] DaemonFC When his sister tried to take out a million dollar life insurance policy last year. [07:13] DaemonFC And told them it was him applying, and signed his name. [07:13] Helenah That's his sister though and so you know who it is [07:13] Helenah I'm talking someone who you most likely will never know who they are [07:13] DaemonFC Yeah, the police refused to do anything because she's got money. [07:13] Helenah and that you have made it easy for them to obtain credentials [07:13] Helenah via entering them into backdoored software... [07:14] DaemonFC Most of the benefits sites work fine in other browsers. [07:14] phanes usually with shit like that you have to have an attorney raise hell in the DA's office and involve bar association complaints [07:14] DaemonFC I can access their main benefits site and the bank that manages the 401(k) and the life, health, and disability insurance companies in any browser. [07:14] Helenah What benefits is this anyway? [07:15] Helenah It's not Government welfare because if it was, Walmart wouldn't be managing it. [07:15] DaemonFC Walmart employee stuff. Their internal network is a complete mess. [07:15] Helenah oh [07:15] DaemonFC Part of it is "modern" Microshit stuff. [07:15] DaemonFC But that one damned page is IE-only. [07:15] Helenah They should look for a new job to protect their own data... [07:15] phanes yeah azure is one of biggest ripoffs ive ever seen [07:16] phanes its basically just a big siphon for money from unsuspecting clients [07:16] DaemonFC No other job like this has these benefits though. [07:16] Helenah So benefits comes before data? [07:16] DaemonFC I didn't want to tell his friend that works at Jewel (for forty years) but, they have a union over there and he doesn't get a 6% 401(k) match. [07:16] DaemonFC It's only 4%. [07:16] Helenah Believe me, he'd be in less mess with less benefits than he would if he had his data stolen... [07:16] DaemonFC Can you believe that? [07:17] Helenah Damn [07:17] DaemonFC Lousy union. [07:17] Helenah Anyway, I have warned you and I do hope you relay to your friend. [07:17] DaemonFC Didn't even get them a contract with benefits like Walmart. [07:17] Helenah I'll say no more. [07:17] Helenah but I did warn you... [07:18] DaemonFC I told schestowitz[TR2] that it annoys me that Walmart tries to add 1% from the employee each year without asking. [07:18] DaemonFC And you have to go in and reverse that every year. [07:18] DaemonFC We've already maxed out the match and the IRS tax credits. [07:18] Helenah You have working tax credits there? [07:18] Helenah Interesting [07:19] DaemonFC Everything on top of that would be (a) our money only and (b) no tax benefits and (c) exposed to stock market risk. [07:19] Helenah The UK scrapped it I heard but lol my life is different so I'm naive to that. [07:19] DaemonFC (c) applies to all of it, but it at least comes with matches and tax credits. [07:19] DaemonFC So you'd have to see a 75% stock market drop to lose money. [07:19] DaemonFC (ish) [07:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [07:20] DaemonFC I mostly maxed out his 401(k) to get the match and the tax breaks. [07:20] Helenah loss doesn't always have a deep effect on you though, it depends how big the loss is... [07:21] Helenah and how much you get overall [07:21] DaemonFC I deducted us down to like <$40 of federal income tax last year. [07:21] DaemonFC Our 2024 tax for the 2023 tax year will probably see us owing nothing. [07:21] *dope_dealer (~dope_dealer@wgxvnce59drh4.irc) has joined #techrights [07:22] DaemonFC I signed up for a bunch of insurances that are part of Section 125 of the Internal Revenue Code. [07:22] DaemonFC So it's all pre-tax money buying the insurance. [07:22] Helenah phanes: And me? I don't have any insurances. :D [07:22] DaemonFC Then if something bad happens and it's a covered peril, the insurance pays out and you don't pay taxes on the payout. [07:22] DaemonFC I took $20,000 worth of critical illness insurance on both of us. [07:23] DaemonFC Starting next year, like, if the doctor comes up and says I have cancer or something, then his insurance through work has to cut us a check for $20,000 right there, and the IRS can't touch a penny of it. [07:23] Helenah Woah that sounds complicated... o.O [07:24] Helenah critical illness insurance? So there is nothing called Healthcare insurance that covers healthcare in general? [07:24] DaemonFC Yeah, and the premiums on that for an entire year are only $50 each, and it comes out of pre-tax dollars. [07:24] Helenah Obviously with different Healthcare insurance policies too. [07:24] DaemonFC Yeah, so it's more like AFLAC, but it's not through them. [07:24] DaemonFC Allstate sold us that plan. [07:24] Helenah Is it like an Employment insurance where like [07:24] Helenah if you fall out of work due to critical illness [07:24] Helenah you're paid for? [07:24] DaemonFC You fall down the stairs, you get money from the accident insurance plan. [07:24] Helenah like sick pay [07:24] Helenah Ah! [07:25] DaemonFC Like, they hand you $2,500 to help pay for ER bills and $500 to help you pay for a walking cast, and stuff. [07:25] DaemonFC So the accident part, right? [07:25] DaemonFC It's like an umbrella plan. [07:25] DaemonFC It helps pay what your major medical doesn't. [07:25] DaemonFC Critical Illness is something else. [07:26] Helenah So not what I was thinking then but Germany have something called Healthcare insurance where like if you fell down the stairs at work or something else where you're ill health and can't work for a period of time, the Employment insurance covers you with like sick pay. [07:26] DaemonFC It's basically like, cash that goes right to you (like accident insurance does) but you can spend it on anything. [07:26] Helenah Ah [07:26] Helenah *Employment insurance [07:26] DaemonFC There's some brochures I saw. [07:26] DaemonFC It's actually very cheap for what the covered perils pay out. [07:26] Helenah UK works differently though [07:27] DaemonFC Accident insurance covers hundreds of accidents and there's a payout for each. [07:27] DaemonFC And it's only 35 cents per week. [07:27] Helenah The US makes the UK system look basic but it's still a scatterfuck. :D [07:27] phanes they should just have hospitals bill the government directly [07:27] DaemonFC There's also Accidental Death or Dismemberment. [07:27] DaemonFC So I got that for him, they wouldn't cover Spouse. [07:28] Helenah In the UK, it's down to the employer to give you sick pay if you fall ill for a while. [07:28] DaemonFC But it pays me if he dies in an accident or gets seriously maimed. [07:28] Helenah Other than that you end up falling onto er... Universal Credit [07:28] Helenah which is some universal benefit umbrella thing [07:28] Helenah you end up with the job seeking element, this is where it gets confusing [07:28] DaemonFC And he's got life insurance, and so do I, and I set each of us at the beneficiary for the other's plan. [07:29] Helenah cause you can be put into a "support group" with this element where you don't have to look for work [07:29] Helenah and the money you get is yours [07:29] DaemonFC In the UK, it's down to the employer to give you sick pay if you fall ill for a while. [07:29] DaemonFC Walmart has Standard Short Term Disability and you get that by working there. [07:29] Helenah Yep the UK system is weird and difficult to explain [07:29] Helenah Told you if was scattery [07:29] DaemonFC It covers 50% of your pay for up to 6 months if you can't go into work. [07:29] Helenah Ah [07:29] DaemonFC But you can add to it with Enhanced Short Term Disability for an additional premium. [07:30] DaemonFC Which I just did, because pre-tax dollars and cheap. [07:30] DaemonFC It bumps it to 60%. [07:30] DaemonFC And then I just bought Enhanced Long-Term Disability too. [07:30] Helenah Well at least you got options cause like... [07:30] Helenah you don't wanna have illness meaning falling right on your knees [07:30] DaemonFC It goes through another insurance company and takes over indefinitely as long as you can't work at 60%. [07:30] Helenah and ending up without a job and homeless and can't feed [07:30] Helenah So that's good [07:31] DaemonFC But he had to take a health question form for that. [07:31] DaemonFC So they're in the decision-making process right now. [07:31] DaemonFC Can't see why the E-LTD plan wouldn't be approved though. [07:31] Helenah phanes, DaemonFC, There's this really nice multi-billion GBP company here. [07:31] DaemonFC It's good to look at what insurances are available and how they affect your taxes. [07:32] Helenah Which has like a fuckton of benefits, I counted 20 [07:32] Helenah Like they were in the news cause [07:32] DaemonFC I also signed us both up for Vision Insurance through his work. [07:32] Helenah This guys wife fell ill with cancer [07:32] DaemonFC $1.25 a week for each of us, and it covers an exam every year, and a pair of eyeglasses. $4 for the exam, $4 for glasses. [07:32] Helenah So the company just said "You don't have to come to work, spent time with your wife until she dies, you get full pay and we'll add a bonus on top to support her" [07:32] Helenah And they didn't even get rid of him. [07:33] DaemonFC Yeah, the US has the Family Medical Leave Act. [07:33] DaemonFC It forces your employer to give you a medical leave of absence, but it's unpaid. [07:33] Helenah Well this is rare in the UK, extremely rare. [07:33] Helenah That company wasn't obliged to do it [07:33] DaemonFC So if you don't have disability insurance, you're broke and you're in trouble. [07:33] Helenah Nor did they have a system in place for what they did for him and his wife. [07:34] Helenah They just simply did it [07:34] DaemonFC You can take off with FMLA if you're a covered employee and an immediate family member needs you to care for them. [07:34] Helenah It's wonderful when you have multi-billion GBP capitalists who actually care about the welbeing of others [07:34] Helenah instead of just trampling all over them to get richer [07:34] Helenah They're rare too [07:34] DaemonFC They never tell you about this at work. [07:34] Helenah but they're true genuine anthropologists. [07:34] DaemonFC They don't want people to know. So few people know they can take FMLA and the law won't let them get in trouble for using it. [07:35] Helenah UK is the same I hear [07:35] Helenah in that for example [07:35] DaemonFC I had to explain it to one of Mandy's co-workers at Walmart who needed a leave of absense for a hip surgery. [07:35] Helenah the job centres won't tell you about a lot of things available to you [07:35] DaemonFC I said "Use the Family Medical Leave Act!". [07:35] Helenah such as work programmes [07:35] Helenah and you've to specifically ask what options are on the table before they disclose the list. [07:35] Helenah It's ridiculous... [07:36] DaemonFC The business groups were lobbying Congress and Clinton to not pass FMLA. [07:36] DaemonFC Then he signed it and my mom had to use it due to complications from giving birth to my brother the same year! [07:36] DaemonFC After she voted for Bush. [07:36] DaemonFC The hospital didn't know about it because it was a month old when she used it. [07:37] DaemonFC And they were threatening to fire her for taking a medical leave because of this. [07:37] Helenah Crazy healthcare systems you got there then [07:37] Helenah The state healthcare system here knows about Government stuff right away. [07:37] DaemonFC Well, this was back in 1993. [07:38] DaemonFC Clinton signed it in February and mom had to take a FMLA leave in May of the same year. [07:38] Helenah Even in 1993, they knew right away though... o.o [07:38] DaemonFC And the hospital HR was PISSED. [07:38] DaemonFC They had to hold her job until she could come back 5 months later. [07:38] DaemonFC I remember that well. [07:38] Helenah Yeah, they probably won't like that. [07:38] DaemonFC Nearly half a year, mom was home with us. [07:39] Helenah So how do they hold the job? [07:39] Helenah Do they have someone work it? [07:39] Helenah To be honest, that's weird if so... [07:39] Helenah It's not really a proper solution if so. [07:39] DaemonFC They have to promise you'll have a job making the same pay and benefits you would have had you stayed, and they have to give you full time. [07:39] DaemonFC So it would mean if there was nothing in the Pediatrics unit, she may have had to come back and work as an ICU nurse. [07:39] DaemonFC But there would be a job. [07:40] Helenah UK has something not quite the same. [07:40] DaemonFC It only covers employers of a certain number of people. [07:40] Helenah It's called "bank work" [07:40] Helenah but basically lets say you fall seriously ill [07:40] Helenah and so you lose your job [07:40] Helenah You can see on hospital websites for bank work [07:40] Helenah which is basically where they take you on doing things in the hospital [07:41] Helenah But the work has to be available too [07:41] DaemonFC Yeah, there's another federal law that says they have to hold your job if you're in the National Guard and called up. [07:42] DaemonFC Most laws that say you get time off and they can't do shit about it don't give you that many reasons. Like, they can't hold it against you if it's jury duty or something. [07:42] Helenah https://www.nhsprofessionals.nhs.uk/joining-nhsp [07:42] Helenah It mentions people already professionals [07:43] Helenah but... [07:43] Helenah I've heard of people go through say cancer treatment [07:43] DaemonFC For COVID, it's now just company policy. Like, Mandy had to take two days off due to vaccine side effects this past week. [07:43] DaemonFC And they cleared the attendance points. [07:43] Helenah and be able to get bank work that requires no qualifications [07:43] DaemonFC But we decided to save his PPTO hours. [07:43] DaemonFC Those are like Gold. [07:44] DaemonFC As long as you don't run out of PPTO to cover time away that's unexcused, you don't get points for it. [07:44] DaemonFC So he's got like 60 of those right now I think. [07:44] DaemonFC Then when you run out of PPTO, you can still call in, but every day is a point. If you get 4.5 attendance points, they fire you. They fall off 6 months after you accrue a point. [07:45] DaemonFC If you clock in late, you get a half a point, so you might as well just go ahead and take a half day if you want. [07:45] DaemonFC But the half point only applies if you clock in more than 6 minutes after your shift start. [07:46] DaemonFC So if your shift starts at 6 AM, you have until 6:06 AM to clock in before you get half a point. [07:46] DaemonFC I never told Mandy that's the policy. [07:46] DaemonFC I don't want him to go "Oh I can just drag my feet getting out the door. It's fine!". [07:48] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR2], If you believe the US CDC about taking the flu shot and COVID booster at the same time, you can, but there's an 11% higher risk of moderate and severe side effects than had you just taken one, followed by the other a few weeks later. [07:48] DaemonFC So they admit they're giving advice that's less ideal than just waiting three weeks between flu and COVID shots. [07:49] DaemonFC I took my flu shot in September 9th and came back for the COVID shot on October 6th. [07:49] DaemonFC I expected that flu would pick up before COVID. That certainly looks to be what's happening. 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Admittedly," https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/control-temperature-and-humidity-with-raspberry-pi-pico/ | Source: Raspberry Pi [08:03] TR Bot Control temperature and humidity with Raspberry Pi Pico - Raspberry Pi [08:03] TR News "To design the schematic and PCB, I used Altium designer 22 and installed the missing component libraries using Altiums..." https://www.pcbway.com/blog/technology/Temperature_Humidity_Control_Unit_Using_a_Raspberry_Pi_Pico_66fdee4a.html | [08:03] TR Bot & Humidity Control Unit Using a Raspberry Pi Pico - Technology - PCBway [08:05] TR News [Old] "When I give a keynote address at a conference, I sometimes commission* and post a transcript or a near-transcript afterwards (example)." https://harihareswara.net/posts/2021/if-you-give-a-speech-you-care-about-post-a-transcript/ | Source: Sumana Harihareswara [08:05] TR Bot If You Give A Speech You Care About, Post A Transcript | Cogito, Ergo Sumana [08:05] TR News AirTags https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/12/travel/lufthansa-apple-airtags-luggage.html | Source: New York Times [08:05] TR Bot Lufthansa Says Apple AirTags Are Once Again Allowed in Checked Bags - The New York Times [08:05] TR News "Student-monitoring software has come under renewed scrutiny over the course of the Covid-19 pandemic." https://www.wired.com/story/student-monitoring-software-privacy-in-schools/ | Source: Wired [08:05] TR Bot Are Back in Classrooms and Laptops Are Still Spying on Them | WIRED [08:09] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:11] Helenah phanes, schestowitz[TR], LOL! [08:11] Helenah This question someone asked [08:11] Helenah "My 15-year-old daughter randomly stapled her mouth shut and I had to take her to the hospital. I asked her why she did it and she said she didnt know. What should I do now?" [08:11] Helenah And this answer! :D [08:11] Helenah "According to other questions you have posted, you are 13, or 16, or 17, or 18, as well as being a 22 year old homeless stripper. Even assuming the oldest of those claimed ages to be true, having a 15 year old child is stretching credulity beyond breaking point. [08:11] Helenah I think that it is safe to say that all the scenarios you present are fictitious. [08:11] Helenah " [08:12] phanes maybe she's a time traveler [08:12] Helenah :D [08:12] phanes sounds awfully transtemporalphobic to me [08:12] Helenah And this answer too! [08:12] Helenah "Perhaps make up more stories about the other children you claim to have. I think you should consider not reproducing any more. The kids you have dont seem to be very smart." [08:12] Helenah lol [08:13] Helenah "Wait, your 15 year old daughter stapled her mouth shut? A lot of parents might look at that as a blessing! (Don't hate me folks, a bullshit question deserves a bullshit answer.)" [08:14] TR News "The result, announced by the National Labor Relations Board on Friday night, suggests that an initial victory by a union at a store" https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/14/business/economy/apple-store-union-oklahoma-city.html | Source: New York Times [08:14] TR Bot Apple Store in Oklahoma City Becomes Second to Unionize - The New York Times [08:15] Helenah phanes: I'm contemplating advising her to replace the stapler with toy one so that she can save on hospital expenses. :D [08:17] phanes kid needs prob needs a therapist. sounds like compulsive behaviour. [08:18] TR News Microsoft's HoloLens Headsets are Giving US Army Testers Nausea - SoylentNews https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/10/13/1728244 Source: Soylent News | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/10/13/1728244 [08:18] TR Bot Microsoft's HoloLens Headsets are Giving US Army Testers Nausea - SoylentNews [08:19] TR News "Linux is the least popular mainstream operating system. Unlike its main competitors, Linux is free and open source" https://www.unixmen.com/tools-for-linux-users-to-not-miss-out-on/ | Source: Unix Men [08:19] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.unixmen.com/tools-for-linux-users-to-not-miss-out-on/ ) [08:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [08:20] Helenah But they also asked this... "I have a 9-year-old daughter who keeps hooking up with boys aged 13-15. What do I do?" [08:20] Helenah And this "I found an inappropriate toy in my 17 year old daughters room. I had a talk with her and questioned her and now she wont talk to me. What do I do?" [08:21] Helenah And this "A 16 year old boy gave my 15 year old daughter pot and she had to be rushed to the ER, should I report this to the police?" [08:22] TR News "RPi4-2GB @ 1.8Ghz, debian lite, xfce - spare, was general purpose desktop but i found it a bit slow. i don't find 2GB enough for desktop use." gemini://gemini.mingmengtou.org/2022-10-16-sbc-inventory.gmi [08:22] DaemonFC "Inappropriate toy" "17 year old". [08:22] DaemonFC LOL [08:22] Helenah phanes: Sounds ridiculous, right? [08:22] TR News Niemann sucks, but Chess.com and Magnus are the real villains gemini://beyondneolithic.life/posts/magnus-chesscom.gmi [08:22] DaemonFC I had sex toys when I was 15. [08:23] DaemonFC I was ordering them out of catalogs. [08:23] Helenah And every question is like "My blah year old son/daughter did blah, what do I do?" LOL [08:23] Helenah All the way through [08:23] TR News Kentucky Streisand Effect https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/14/kentucky-judge-streisands-story-about-him-failing-to-wear-pants-at-work-into-wide-coverage/ | Source: Techdirt [08:23] Helenah If I was to stick a pound in a pot for every child I count she's got, I'd be rich... [08:23] TR Bot Judge Streisands Story About Him Failing To Wear Pants At Work Into Wide Coverage | Techdirt [08:23] DaemonFC I ordered some cigars off the Web when I was 16. [08:24] DaemonFC I had to sign a promise that neither one of us would use tobacco next year. Or vaping products. [08:24] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [08:24] DaemonFC There's higher insurance premiums if you do for the stuff that pays for covered medical events. [08:24] Helenah "I caught my 20 year old daughter smoking a cigarette so I made her smoke a cigar knowing she'd choke on it to teach her a lesson, what more needs to be done to make sure the lesson is well taught?" < My fake question :D [08:25] DaemonFC Most teenagers tried cigarettes when I was a teenager. [08:25] *dope_dealer has quit (Quit: Lost terminal) [08:25] DaemonFC I was a kid stealing them from people's cars who left the windows rolled down. [08:25] DaemonFC And the big cigarette display at the supermarket. [08:25] DaemonFC They didn't lock them up back then. Nobody was watching them. [08:26] Helenah Actually my mother did just that to my sister, she was caught smoking a cig so my mother gave her a cig and made her smoke it to which she choked and my mother said "You can't smoke it all, can you? That's cause it's bad for your health, don't do it again" [08:26] TR News How a Secret Rent Algorithm Pushes Rents Higher https://www.propublica.org/article/yieldstar-rent-increase-realpage-rent | Source: Pro Publica [08:26] TR Bot How a Secret Rent Algorithm Pushes Rents Higher ProPublica [08:26] Helenah I found it a harsh way of teaching that to be honest... [08:26] DaemonFC Yeah. [08:27] DaemonFC I'm just glad I never made a regular thing of it. [08:27] TR News "Sites like The Pirate Bay are recognized for their unique branding but in today's pirate streaming sector" https://torrentfreak.com/pirate-sites-that-rip-off-other-pirate-sites-branding-are-about-to-regret-it-221015/ | Source: Torrent Freak [08:27] TR Bot Sites That Rip-Off Other Pirate Sites' Branding Are About to Regret It * TorrentFreak [08:27] TR News "RCN's request to dismiss a piracy liability lawsuit filed by several filmmakers has been denied by a New Jersey federal court." https://torrentfreak.com/filmmakers-repeat-infringer-lawsuit-against-isp-rcn-can-move-forward-221015/ | Source: Torrent Freak [08:27] TR Bot Repeat Infringer Lawsuit Against ISP RCN Can Move Forward * TorrentFreak [08:27] Helenah If she was my own daughter and not my sister, I would've sat her down and spoke to her properly about the harm cigarettes do and why she shouldn't be smoking them. [08:27] Helenah I wouldn't fuckin' force a damn cig onto her [08:28] Helenah it's just giving her a taste for it even more. [08:28] Helenah Plus the trauma it would've caused is uncalled for. [08:28] Helenah lol [08:28] DaemonFC My mom's parents made her chain smoke the rest of the pack until she went in the bathroom and threw up. [08:28] DaemonFC She said she never picked up a cigarette again. [08:28] Helenah Oh dear [08:28] Helenah Just cause it worked though doesn't make it right... [08:29] DaemonFC She said when she was a teenager, she had a figure, but my aunt was overweight. [08:29] DaemonFC And my grandparents were always yelling at my aunt for eating too much. [08:30] DaemonFC One day, my aunt drank six of those 8 ounce bottles of Coke and she came running to my mom going "I don't know what to do. I drank all of them and mom and dad are going to be home any minute now!". [08:31] TR News Oklahoma https://truthout.org/articles/apple-workers-in-oklahoma-city-vote-to-unionize-second-us-store/ | Source: TruthOut [08:31] TR Bot Apple Workers in Oklahoma City Vote to Unionize Second US Store [08:31] DaemonFC So they came home and noticed that the pack of Coke they bought with the groceries was gone and started to yell at my aunt for it, and then my mom, who they were always trying to encourage to eat because she was a little bit underweight said, "Oh, I drank all of those. I just really got a taste for them all of a sudden. I'm sorry.". [08:31] DaemonFC And they stopped yelling and were like, "Oh, okay then.". [08:32] DaemonFC They weren't going to yell at her. She wasn't fat. [08:32] TR News "While desktop 3D printing is an incredible technology, its got some pretty clear limitations." https://hackaday.com/2022/10/15/printed-axial-generator-is-turned-by-hand/ | Source: Hackaday [08:32] TR Bot Axial Generator Is Turned By Hand | Hackaday [08:32] Helenah hmm [08:32] Helenah It's still a lot of cola though. :D [08:32] Helenah Yelling probably isn't a resolve. [08:33] DaemonFC Meh, today people get two liter bottles of Coke and drink them like a big fat disgusting baby with a bottle. [08:33] Helenah Yeh, here too. [08:34] Helenah Huge packs of snacks and drinks intended for sharing but consumed to ones self. [08:34] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@22agg6qj8dxhg.irc) has joined #techrights [08:34] DaemonFC Well, I remember when eating a bag of potato chips by yourself in one sitting was truly shameful. [08:34] DaemonFC Because it was one of those 90s bags that had like two and half pounds of chips in it. [08:35] DaemonFC Now you open one up and it's got 7.5 ounces of chips. [08:35] DaemonFC If they make them any smaller a "full sized bag" of chips will look like one of those snak paks over by the checkout lane. [08:35] Helenah With the bag the same size too regardless of weight so it feels dead empty? :D [08:36] Helenah That's what companies have done here. [08:36] DaemonFC They just puff it with air. [08:36] Helenah Reduce weight but not bag size. lol [08:36] Helenah Oh here they don't. [08:36] DaemonFC You open it up and the chips are 2/3rds of the way down in the bag. [08:37] Helenah There's this crisp brand that... [08:37] Helenah even when my gf was a kid in the 70s, she remembers them being 0.10GBP [08:37] Helenah and they're still that today! [08:37] Helenah But hey the bags are almost empty now. [08:37] TR News 3D Printed Ratchet https://hackaday.com/2022/10/15/a-3d-printed-ratchet-that-can-really-take-the-torque/ | Source: Hackaday [08:37] TR Bot 3D Printed Ratchet That Can Really Take The Torque | Hackaday [08:37] Helenah They're trying to keep the price tag but it clearly isn't sustainable as their product is now like vanishing to just a bag. [08:38] DaemonFC A bag with a single chip surrounded by air. [08:38] DaemonFC 10 cents [08:38] Helenah lol [08:38] TR News PCB https://hackaday.com/2022/10/15/aqua-pcb-is-a-big-upgrade-for-the-mattel-aquarius/ | Source: Hackaday [08:38] TR Bot PCB Is A Big Upgrade For The Mattel Aquarius | Hackaday [08:38] *parsifal (~parsifal@8vte7vm6885eu.irc) has joined #techrights [08:39] Helenah Yeah the company is nuts. [08:39] Helenah Even Heinz tried price tag maintenance with tins of beans for many many years once [08:39] Helenah They soon had to pump it up though... [08:39] DaemonFC I actually initiated a refund request for a bag of chips at Walmart a few weeks ago. [08:39] DaemonFC I got it home after online pickup and the entire bag was crushed. [08:39] Helenah but then did they have to pump it up cause a tin of beans from Heinz isn't pennies anymore [08:40] phanes i haven't looked at the price on a register for about 5 years [08:40] Helenah yet I can get these 0.20GBP tins of beans from another company. lol [08:40] DaemonFC Like someone beat the fuck out of it and it was a bag of salt and vinegar chip crumbs. [08:40] phanes i just swipe my card [08:40] Helenah WTF [08:40] DaemonFC I'm not a big complainer but when I get cans that look like someone hit them with a golf club or a bag of chips that's crushed.... [08:41] DaemonFC I want my money. [08:41] Helenah I wouldn't be surprised if a dimwit shelf stacker accidentally dropped a load of bags, stood on them, stuck them on the shelf anyway. lol [08:41] Helenah At least here if a product is severely damaged, not just a package defect, they reduce the price. [08:41] DaemonFC Yeah, but you can't stay mad at shelf stockers. They're like, all so pretty to look at. [08:42] DaemonFC Probably because the stupid ones always are. [08:42] Helenah :D lol [08:42] Helenah All of them pretty to look at? That's... questionable lol [08:42] DaemonFC Well, many are. [08:42] Helenah Maybe employed on purpose so customers don't question them to higher management? [08:42] DaemonFC That's what I miss about going in to do my shopping. [08:42] DaemonFC I could take my time. Steal a peek. [08:43] Helenah It isn't like that here, shelf stockers here are diverse in their appearance. [08:43] DaemonFC That's racist. [08:43] TR News Moscow https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/10/15/moscow-authorities-demand-that-hotel-and-hostel-operators-hand-over-information-on-male-guests | Source: Meduza [08:43] TR Bot NO TITLE [08:43] Helenah DaemonFC: What is? o.O [08:43] DaemonFC :) [08:43] Helenah lol [08:44] TR News "Veteran journalist Kevin Gosztola joins ScheerPost to discuss last weeks Hands Off Assange! rally and the state of the media." https://scheerpost.com/2022/10/15/video-kevin-gosztola-and-the-state-of-support-for-julian-assange/ | Source: Scheerpost [08:44] TR Bot Kevin Gosztola and the State of Support for Julian Assange - scheerpost.com [08:44] DaemonFC No, I mean like you go in to do your shopping and there's always at least a few of them that are all the right shapes. [08:44] DaemonFC I'm not. I admit it. [08:44] DaemonFC Mandy calls me a pig. And I say, "Yeah, I'm a big pig.". [08:45] DaemonFC Then he says "I'm only 18, come play with me!" and wags his tongue between his fingers. I admit, I may be responsible for teaching him that. [08:45] TR News National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/15/we-won-workers-vote-become-second-unionized-us-apple-store | Source: Common Dreams [08:45] TR Bot 'We Won!': Workers Vote to Become Second Unionized US Apple Store [08:45] DaemonFC When we had cable at the motel, late at night they did those ads for the 1-900 sex lines. [08:45] DaemonFC And they had those "I'm only 18, come play with me!" ones. [08:46] DaemonFC So I said, "I'm only 18, come play with me!" *wags tongue between fingers* [08:46] Helenah Oh fuck haha :D [08:47] *reptilian_thrills (~reptilian_thrills@8ra7k34uqd944.irc) has joined #techrights [08:47] Helenah reptilian_thrills! [08:47] Helenah Welcome to Planet Zion [08:47] DaemonFC Yeah, with the corresponding silly noises, you know. [08:47] DaemonFC Hey, I made him laugh. [08:47] Helenah Please take a seat and make yourself at home. [08:47] reptilian_thrills you have no idea [08:47] TR News "'The Rent Is Too Damn High" https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/10/15/rent-too-damn-high-activists-respond-us-housing-crisis | Source: Common Dreams [08:47] TR Bot Opinion | 'The Rent Is Too Damn High': Activists Respond to the US Housing Crisis | Fran Quigley [08:54] TR News Reverse-Engineering https://hackaday.com/2022/10/15/reverse-engineering-a-display-protocol-to-repair-a-roland-synthesizer/ | Source: Hackaday [08:54] TR Bot A Display Protocol To Repair A Roland Synthesizer | Hackaday [08:55] TR News IRC Proceedings: Saturday, October 15, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/16/irc-log-151022/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/16/irc-log-151022/ [08:55] TR Bot IRC Proceedings: Saturday, October 15, 2022 | Techrights [08:56] TR News "You must be used to use Ctrl + C for terminating any process, but do you know it sends the SIGINT signal?" https://linuxhandbook.com/termination-signals/ | Source: Linux Handbook [08:56] TR Bot How to use SIGINT and other Termination Signals in Linux [08:56] TR News "While XML (Extensible Markup Language) is a human-readable markup language, you'll more likely find XML files unstructured enough to give you headaches!" https://linuxhandbook.com/pretty-print-xml/ | Source: Linux Handbook [08:56] TR Bot Pretty Print XML in Linux Command Line [08:56] TR News "You know you arent supposed to watch your laser while it is cutting or engraving" https://hackaday.com/2022/10/15/laser-engraving-up-close/ | Source: Hackaday [08:56] TR Bot Engraving, Up Close | Hackaday [08:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 10.53 k/sec., IPFS upstream 121.58 average k/sec., average swarm size 53.71 ● Oct 16 [09:03] TR News (NEW): Best Network Monitoring Tools for Linux Mint 21 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Best_Network_Monitoring_Tools_for_Linux_Mint_21.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Best_Network_Monitoring_Tools_for_Linux_Mint_21.gmi [09:03] TR Bot Tux Machines Best Network Monitoring Tools for Linux Mint 21 [09:03] TR News (NEW): today's howtows http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/today_s_howtows.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/today_s_howtows.gmi [09:03] TR Bot Tux Machines today's howtows [09:03] TR News (NEW): The 6 Best Image Editors for Ubuntu http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/The_6_Best_Image_Editors_for_Ubuntu.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/The_6_Best_Image_Editors_for_Ubuntu.gmi [09:03] TR Bot Tux Machines The 6 Best Image Editors for Ubuntu [09:04] *oarion7 has quit (Quit: Running IRC on a charmed medieval abacus.) 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Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [09:25] TR News Buy a Linux laptop: The TUXEDO Pulse 15 Gen 2 detailed review. https://www.linuxtechmore.com/2022/10/tuxedo-pulse-15-gen-2-review.html [09:25] TR Bot Buy a Linux laptop: The TUXEDO Pulse 15 Gen 2 detailed review. 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Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [11:21] TR News Web browsers are insecure software https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2022/10/12/google-chrome-security-update-high-priority-update-chrome-now/ [11:21] TR Bot Google Issues High Priority Update For Chrome Browser Users [11:25] TR News "The tech giant brings open source Apache Iceberg table format support to its BigLake data lake as it extends BigQuery support for unstructured data and Apache Spark." https://www.techtarget.com/searchdatamanagement/news/252525928/Google-grows-data-cloud-capabilities-for-data-management [11:25] TR Bot Google grows data cloud capabilities for data management [11:28] TR News Microsoft kills https://www.fudzilla.com/news/55659-military-use-of-microsoft-s-hololens-would-get-soldiers-killed see http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/ [11:28] TR Bot Military use of Microsoft's HoloLens would get soldiers killed [11:28] TR Bot The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers Expense | Techrights [11:31] TR News Microsoft: we steal money from taxpayers under the guise of "defence" https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-11312525/Microsofts-HoloLens-makes-soldiers-SICK-80-suffered-mission-affecting-physical-impairments.html [11:31] TR Bot Microsoft's HoloLens makes soldiers SICK: 80% suffered 'mission-affecting physical impairments' | Daily Mail Online [11:33] TR News Horrible Bosses Cause 'Race to the Bottom' - Study https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/10/15/199242 [11:33] TR Bot Horrible Bosses Cause 'Race to the Bottom' - Study - SoylentNews [11:34] TR News "I thought this was a little weird as if it was a battery problem I would have expected to fail in seconds to a couple of minutes. I therefore dug out the schematic to see what is up." https://linuxjedi.co.uk/2022/10/09/acorn-archimedes-a3010-restoration-part-3/ [11:34] TR Bot Acorn Archimedes A3010: Restoration Part 3 LinuxJedi's /dev/null [11:36] TR News "The R Consortium recently caught up with Alyssa Columbus of R-Ladies Irvine (also on MeetUp and Twitter) to discuss the groups progress during the pandemic. Alyssa discussed the groups efforts to remain active and provide networking opportunities for its members." https://www.r-consortium.org/blog/2022/10/11/acing-virtual-events-with-networking-sessions-and-collaboration [11:36] TR Bot Acing Virtual Events with Networking Sessions and Collaboration - R Consortium [11:36] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #techrights [11:36] *starstreak has quit (connection closed) [11:37] TR News "completely misunderstand the process of getting a decent result with AI generators like Stable Diffusion and DALL-E 2. People seem to assume that it's just "push button, recieve bacon" without any real creativity in the equation." https://xeiaso.net/blog/prompt-engineering [11:37] TR Bot Prompt engineering is hard - Xe [11:40] TR News "A taxi trip would probably be a little quicker but only marginally so. I'd have to be out waiting for the taxi for a couple of minutes, it would pick up another couple of colleagues on the way, and the trip itself takes about 15 minutes by car." https://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-10-01-just-happy-for-bike-lanes.html [11:40] TR Bot Just Happy For Bike Lanes - Bjrn Wrmedal [11:42] TR News "clicking on click bait titles should be avoided at best, this gives credit to such titles and authors will continue to publish them" https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2022-10-02-top-10-things.html [11:42] TR Bot Solene'% : The top 10 things about blog and IT you should know [11:43] TR News "Im iffy on the language used to describe people, our creativity, and our interactions online. Everything is measured by engagement, for the production of content, and extracting value. And its hollowing out the web from the inside." https://rubenerd.com/content-engagement-and-extraction/ [11:43] TR Bot Content, engagement, and extraction [11:44] TR News Optus Hack just tip of the iceberg. FinTechs harvest bank details and passwords, can sell them too https://michaelwest.com.au/fintech-companies-privacy-rorts/ Source: Michael West Media | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//michaelwest.com.au/fintech-companies-privacy-rorts/ [11:44] TR Bot Optus Hack just tip of the iceberg. FinTechs harvest bank details and passwords, can sell them too [11:45] TR News "Maybe screenshots as an API can bridge the gap on some of these problems." https://matt-rickard.com/on-web-clipping [11:45] TR Bot On Web Clipping [11:49] TR News Trackball musings https://asylum.madhouse-project.org/blog/2022/10/06/trackball-musings/ "This is a post about my ideas about how a perfect trackball would look and function." [11:49] TR Bot Trackball musings - Asylum [11:51] *horseface has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:55] TR News Microsoft shills and the insult of "Linux on the desktop" https://lunduke.substack.com/p/microsoft-windows-predicts-the-end [11:55] TR Bot Microsoft Windows predicts the end of the world... [11:56] TR News Survey Says: Why the Government Reacted With Alarm to a Critical Opinion Poll on the Online News Act https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2022/10/survey-says-why-the-government-and-bill-c-18-supporters-are-concerned-about-a-critical-opinion-poll-on-the-online-news-act/ [11:56] TR Bot Survey Says: Why the Government Reacted With Alarm to a Critical Opinion Poll on the Online News Act - Michael Geist [11:57] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [11:58] TR News The wonderful tee(1) command https://rubenerd.com/the-wonderful-tee-command/ [11:58] TR Bot The wonderful tee(1) command [11:59] TR News "We have quite a few things to do now, ideally before the freeze for Debian 12 (bookworm), due January 2023." https://blog.einval.com/2022/10/02#firmware-vote-result [11:59] TR Bot Steve's blog ● Oct 16 [12:00] TR News Why does my image look desaturated when I upload it online? https://blog.bithole.dev/blogposts/image-desaturation/ [12:00] TR Bot Why does my image look desaturated when I upload it online? [12:02] Helenah Anyone here? [12:02] mjg59_ Nope [12:04] Helenah I was just talking about America's fucked up age of consent laws. 21+ is over the top and unfounded, not even scientifically backed. In the UK the age of consent is 16+, age 16 is classified as the start of adult life in the UK. It's normal for 16+ year olds to seek a girlfriend or boyfriend and kids are taught sex education at age 13 and it has caused no problems. [12:04] mjg59_ I'm not aware of anywhere in the US where the age of consent is 21 [12:05] Helenah When I was taught sex education at age 13, I was able to fully understand it. [12:05] Helenah "In the remaining states, the age of consent is either 17 or 18 years old" [12:05] Helenah Oh, since when? [12:05] Helenah So most it's 16+ [12:05] Helenah but even 17+ and 18+ is too high. [12:05] mjg59_ Since it stopped being 14 or something, probably [12:06] mjg59_ It's actually kind of complicated because there are carve outs in some states if you're married and marriage can be legal below the age of consent [12:07] Helenah Even the age of consent of 15+ in Sweden seems to not flag up anything sinister. [12:07] Helenah So that has worked for them. [12:08] TR News (NEW): Advertising is killing Tech Journalism http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Advertising_is_killing_Tech_Journalism.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Advertising_is_killing_Tech_Journalism.gmi [12:08] TR Bot Tux Machines Advertising is killing Tech Journalism [12:08] Helenah Oh [12:11] mjg59_ So eg in North Carolina you can marry a 14 year old and then have sex with them [12:11] mjg59_ There's no consistency at all in the US in this respect, basically every state has different rules [12:14] TR News "The Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet has been ordered to hand over the Gaetjens Report into the Sports Rorts Affair after a two and a half year fight by Rex Patrick against fake Cabinet confidentiality." https://michaelwest.com.au/prime-ministers-department-ordered-to-come-clean-on-sports-rorts-cover-up/ [12:14] TR Bot Prime Minister's department ordered to come clean on Sports Rorts cover-up - Michael West [12:15] TR News "Today I realized I'm annoyed by the word "stethoscope". "Scope" is Greek for "look at". The telescope is for looking at far things (). The microscope is for looking at small things (). The endoscope is for looking inside things (). The periscope is for looking around things ()." https://blog.plover.com/2022/10/13#stethoscope [12:15] TR Bot The Universe of Discourse : Stethoscope [12:16] TR News "I apologise for the lack of sizeable updates in the past few months. Unfortunately the T700 project has not been smooth sailing, primarily due to Shenzhen and other Chinese cities under major lockdowns." https://www.xyte.ch/2022/10/10/t700-and-my-apology/ [12:16] TR Bot reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.xyte.ch/2022/10/10/t700-and-my-apology/ ) [12:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [12:21] TR News Full Circle Weekly News #283 | Full Circle Magazine https://fullcirclemagazine.org/podcast/full-circle-weekly-news-283/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//fullcirclemagazine.org/podcast/full-circle-weekly-news-283/ [12:21] TR Bot Full Circle Weekly News #283 | Full Circle Magazine [12:22] TR News (UPDATEDx4): Akademy 2022 Timetable, Videos, and More (UPDATEDx4) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/01/Akademy_2022_Timetable_Videos_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/01/Akademy_2022_Timetable_Videos_and_More.gmi [12:22] TR Bot Tux Machines Akademy 2022 Timetable, Videos, and More (UPDATEDx4) [12:41] TR News [GIT PULL] xen: branch for v6.1-rc1 - Juergen Gross https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20221012071618.8859-1-jgross@suse.com/ Source: SUSE's Corporate Blog | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/20221012071618.8859-1-jgross@suse.com/ [12:41] TR Bot [GIT PULL] xen: branch for v6.1-rc1 - Juergen Gross [12:41] TR News Pull xfs updates from Dave Chinner https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=60bb8154d1d77042a5d43d335a68fdb202302cbe [12:41] TR Bot kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree [12:42] TR News LKML: Michael Ellerman: [GIT PULL] Please pull powerpc/linux.git powerpc-6.1-1 tag https://lkml.org/lkml/2022/10/9/123 Source: uni Indiana | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lkml.org/lkml/2022/10/9/123 [12:42] TR Bot LKML: Michael Ellerman: [GIT PULL] Please pull powerpc/linux.git powerpc-6.1-1 tag [12:45] TR News "Here, we introduce you Floccus, which is a handy tool to sync and backup your bookmark collections from different browser and devices. Furthermore, it is completely free and open source." https://medevel.com/floccus/ [12:45] TR Bot Sync and Backup your Mega Bookmark collections with Floccus [12:46] TR News Fakecoins 'wallet' https://linuxhint.com/best-bitcoin-wallets-for-ubuntu/ [12:46] TR Bot Best Bitcoin Wallets for Ubuntu [12:48] TR News CRAN and the Isoband Incident - Is Your Project at Risk and How to Fix It - R programming https://appsilon.com/cran-and-the-isoband-incident/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//appsilon.com/cran-and-the-isoband-incident/ [12:48] TR Bot CRAN and the Isoband Incident - Is Your Project at Risk and How to Fix It - R programming [12:49] TR News "A Plea for Lean Software" by Prof. Niklaus Wirth https://liam-on-linux.dreamwidth.org/88032.html [12:49] TR Bot liam_on_linux | "A Plea for Lean Software" by Prof. Niklaus Wirth [12:50] TR News "On the contrary. Were it not for a thousand times faster hardware, modern software would be utterly unusable." https://liam-on-linux.dreamwidth.org/88032.html [12:50] schestowitz[TR] frog: ^ [12:51] TR News Python dependency management difficulty is an unhelpful meme http://blog.viraptor.info/post/python-dependency-management-difficulty-is-an-unhelpful-meme [12:51] TR Bot Python dependency management difficulty is an unhelpfulmeme [12:54] TR News "Maple Diffusion is the second Stable-Diffusion-on-a-phone implementation I'm aware of (first place goes to Matt Waller), but it should be the fastest." https://madebyoll.in/posts/maple_diffusion/ [12:54] TR Bot Maple Diffusion [12:55] TR News Cold Fusion is Back (there's just one problem) http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2022/10/cold-fusion-is-back-theres-just-one.html [12:55] TR Bot Sabine Hossenfelder: Backreaction: Cold Fusion is Back (there's just one problem) [12:56] Helenah mjg59_: Thing is... [12:56] Helenah the age tolerance is missing [12:56] Helenah Sweden has an age tolerance of 3 years, the age of consent is 15+ like I said. [12:56] TR News Hackday - Group Solar Forecasts - Terence Edens Blog https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2022/10/hackday-group-solar-forecasts/ Source: Terence Eden | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//shkspr.mobi/blog/2022/10/hackday-group-solar-forecasts/ [12:56] TR Bot Hackday Group Solar Forecasts Terence Edens Blog [12:56] Helenah But a 15 year old there can go with someone 3 years younger than them and it be legal. [12:57] mjg59_ helenah: Oh several stats have age tolerance laws [12:57] Helenah And it apparently works while at the same time protecting people with minor age differences. [12:57] Helenah mjg59_: Good [12:57] mjg59_ This is one of the scenarios where talking about the US is like talking about Europe [12:57] Helenah The UK doesn't and I know someone who was 16 and went with a 15 year old [12:57] mjg59_ There isn't a generic answer [12:57] Helenah They were later forced to sign the sex offenders register [12:57] Helenah I thought that was fucking wrong [12:58] Helenah Wasn't allowed to work with kids as he was considered a child predator. [12:58] TR News "Less internalised misogyny and a greater sense of equality. I became vegetarian while in Canada - and still am. I feel like I was better at making friends back then, but that's the nature of throwing teens together in a strange environment. I'm better at self-directed learning, and probably just as bad as I ever was at procrastinating." https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2022/10/two-anniversaries-on-one-day/ [12:58] TR Bot Two Anniversaries on One Day Terence Edens Blog [12:58] Helenah mjg59_: Agreed on that [12:58] Helenah But there are definitive answers such as we know age tolerance is a must [12:59] Helenah What that age needs to be is there is no generic answer like you said [12:59] Helenah but 3 years tolerance sounds reasonable and non-dangerous. [12:59] Helenah and has proven to be so. [12:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 17.80 k/sec., IPFS upstream 104.60 average k/sec., average swarm size 124.66 [12:59] Helenah Sometimes with politics, it's about seeing how other nations that aren't your own perform with their own system. [12:59] Helenah and comparing your own to it to see where your own flaws are that that other system doesn't have [12:59] *horseface (~horseface@w64zh6d72g7pu.irc) has joined #techrights [12:59] Helenah where you can then revise your own system and make changes to it. ● Oct 16 [13:00] Helenah Obviously it's a lengthy process and isn't as simple as that, in the UK it would require votes of MPs and so on. [13:00] Helenah and even lengthy discussions at the political table. [13:00] Helenah And in Germany they recently discussed whether or not it should be allowed to have sex with dogs. [13:00] Helenah Now yes I don't agree with it [13:01] Helenah but I agree that things should still be discussed even so [13:01] Helenah And the result was it shouldn't be allowed [13:01] Helenah but it's good that it was discussed as with advances in what people know these days compared to yesterday may have changed. [13:01] Helenah Thing with dogs though is they don't understand sex, they just instinctively do it. [13:02] Helenah They also don't have any concept of STDs nor the capacity to learn about sex [13:02] Helenah and so they are easily exploited by humans [13:02] Helenah So even if a human and a dog can safely and mutually have sex and it not cause issues... [13:02] Helenah There is always room other humans may exploit dogs into doing so [13:02] Helenah potentially even passing down a disease. [13:02] Helenah or hurting the animal in some way [13:03] Helenah I like to speak in depth about the ethics of things. [13:04] Helenah I also like to be impartial as I speak about such matters. [13:04] schestowitz[TR] right, but it's quite far removed from tech [13:04] Helenah I don't like to let personal one-sidedness get in the way of my judgements on such important ethical matters. [13:04] schestowitz[TR] and might mostly put people off [13:04] Helenah schestowitz[TR]: Sure [13:04] Helenah Would you like me to move on? [13:05] schestowitz[TR] we can talk tech topics [13:05] schestowitz[TR] like kids who carry 'smart' phones [13:05] schestowitz[TR] i think it's partly what led to it yesterday [13:05] Helenah Are you wanting to talk tech topics are is it really that you don't like this subject of dicussion in particular? Earlier on I was talking about alsorts of non-tech stuff and times prior and I wasn't told to change the topic. [13:06] schestowitz[TR] you pointed out many accuse of pedophilia to discredit people [13:06] schestowitz[TR] bringing up the subject here gives leeway to 'cancel culture' [13:06] Helenah Perfectly understandable. [13:07] Helenah Thanks for giving me insight into what you really mean. [13:07] Helenah Anyway, I'll change the topic to tech. :) [13:08] TR News "about 26 percent of the time, actors gain initial access through the exploitation of public-facing applications, which underscores how critical it is for organizations to maintain an up-to-date inventory of assets and vulnerabilities; this is true for both public and private sector entitiesas no one is immuneincluding the federal government." https://www.mandiant.com/resources/blog/cisa-directive-strengthens-federal-networks [13:08] TR Bot CISA Operational Directive Strengthens Cyber Defenses for Federal Networks | Mandiant [13:08] TR News The browser build on Firefox, whose CSO is CIA https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tor-browser-1154/ see http://techrights.org/2022/09/10/mozilla-three-letter-agencies/ [13:08] TR Bot New Release: Tor Browser 11.5.4 (Android, Windows, macOS, Linux) | The Tor Project [13:08] TR Bot Mozilla Hired Top-Level Managers Directly From the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), Can They Be Trusted on Privacy? | Techrights [13:09] TR News The browser built on Firefox, whose CSO is CIA https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tor-browser-1154/ see http://techrights.org/2022/09/10/mozilla-three-letter-agencies/ [13:11] TR News "Restrictive internet censorship and blackouts are normal tools used by governments to disrupt organizing and dissent. Companies continuously surveill their workers with digital spyware" https://blog.torproject.org/powered-by-privacy/ [13:11] TR Bot Resistance, change, & freedom: powered by privacy | The Tor Project [13:11] schestowitz[TR] Helenah: np :-) [13:11] Helenah :) [13:11] schestowitz[TR] you said it yesterday, people like to use those topics to attack people [13:11] schestowitz[TR] so debating things like age of consent can lead to mischaracterisations [13:12] schestowitz[TR] http://techrights.org/2020/08/14/ok-melinda/ [13:12] TR Bot OK, Melinda | Techrights [13:15] TR News "I am curious to see how the industry responds to AirTags in general, because it seems like maybe they should technically be banned, based on current regulations." https://onemileatatime.com/news/lufthansa-bans-airtags/ [13:15] TR Bot Lufthansa Bans AirTags: Will Other Airlines Follow? - One Mile at a Time [13:16] TR News "Most visitors to Horizon Worlds generally dont return after first month; an empty world is a sad world" https://www.wsj.com/articles/meta-metaverse-horizon-worlds-zuckerberg-facebook-internal-documents-11665778961 [13:16] TR Bot Documents Show Metas Flagship Metaverse Falling Short - WSJ [13:16] TR News "Patrick Hart, a leader in the Oklahoma City campaign, said hes now eager to advise other Apple stores on how to organize. I want this to become a labor movement, he said. Were going to be that catalyst for people." https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-10-15/apple-oklahoma-store-is-second-to-unionize-after-election-win [13:17] TR Bot - Are you a robot? [13:17] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/1552051985460994051-2048x774.jpg [13:18] TR News "I love to read, and while I'm no stranger to the world of eBooks, nothing beats the experience of curling up in front of the fire with a stack of dead trees." http://flower.codes/2022/10/15/used-books.html [13:18] TR Bot Buying Used Books | flower.codes [13:20] TR News "We have a slightly smaller week again so we can prepare for some additional big releases that we have on the horizon (you might even see one or two next week)! We start this Friday off with a new BreadBoard Mates starter kit for their TIMI-96 module." https://www.sparkfun.com/news/5470 [13:20] TR Bot Galore - News - SparkFun Electronics [13:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [13:21] TR News "Over time, smart thermostats can learn not just your personal routines but also how long it takes your HVAC system to arrive at a requested or programmed temperature." Overkill, waste of energy, and expensive to maintain https://staceyoniot.com/why-your-smart-thermostat-might-run-before-its-programmed-times/ [13:21] TR Bot Why your smart thermostat might run before its programmed times - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis [13:21] *horseface has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:21] TR News No, for GPL VIOLATIONS https://austinhenley.com/blog/copilotmodes.html see http://techrights.org/2021/10/25/github-series-outline/ [13:21] TR Bot Coding with Copilot for acceleration and exploration - Austin Z. Henley [13:22] TR Bot Microsoft GitHub Expos Part III A Story of Plagiarism and Likely Securities Fraud | Techrights [13:25] TR News "BASH? PowerShell? It all traces back to 1963. And the work of an amazing Frenchman, CTTS, and Multics." https://lunduke.substack.com/p/the-history-of-the-first-computer [13:25] TR Bot The History of the First Computer Shell - by Bryan Lunduke [13:26] TR News "How do multinationals like Microsoft get away with paying so little tax?" https://michaelwest.com.au/microsoft-tax-avoidance-a-bunch-of-shifting-bastards/ http://techrights.org/wiki/Microsoft_-_Tax [13:26] TR Bot A bunch of shifting bastards: how Big Tech goes small on tax - Michael West [13:26] TR Bot Microsoft - Tax - Techrights [13:27] TR News "The strength of this heuristic is that it doesnt rely on domain knowledge about textiles or even the details of fancy and comfort. Given any two independent qualities, we can argue that optimizing for one will sacrifice the other." https://buttondown.email/hillelwayne/archive/what-a-wedding-taught-me-about-software/ [13:27] TR Bot What a Wedding Taught Me About Software Engineering Buttondown [13:30] TR News companies [13:31] MinceR corporations are people, my friend! [13:31] TR News "While most of these contracts went to Australian , some went to subsidiaries of foreign multinational weapons makers such as SAAB and Boeing." https://michaelwest.com.au/federal-government-funded-2021-weapons-expo/ [13:31] TR Bot Federal government funded 2021 weapons expo - Michael West [13:31] MinceR (cat) (audio:important) https://i.imgur.com/9s2thZ2.mp4 [13:32] TR News "The 10th anniversary of Julia Gillards so-called misogyny speech is a reminder of what might have been. Chiefly, the loss of a potentially great Australian leader." https://michaelwest.com.au/a-decade-on-from-the-big-m-gillard-and-the-might-have-beens/ [13:32] TR Bot A decade from Big M: Gillard and the might-have-beens - Michael West [13:35] TR News "Ken modified cc (the C compiler on UNIX systems) so that only when it was compiling UNIXs login program it would inject a small backdoor (into login) that would allow him to log in as any user on the system if he used a predefined password." https://lunduke.substack.com/p/that-time-the-creator-of-unix-built [13:35] TR Bot That time the creator of UNIX built a Trojan Horse that let him log in to any UNIX machine. [13:37] TR News "Ultimately, people use them for a variety of different things. From "lab" in the word, you figure that it's a place for experimentation, not production. That doesn't always end up as the case: Some people run "home production" instead of "homelab", but it's a big tent." https://ntietz.com/blog/homelab/ [13:37] TR Bot Starting my (overkill) homelab | nicholas@web [13:39] *phobos (~phobos@freenode/user/phobos) has joined #techrights [13:41] TR News "Its hard to find a textbook series garnering more effusive praise than The Little Schemer, The Little Prover, The Little Typer & co. The Little Typer introduces dependent type theory and is the first of the series Ive read." https://ahelwer.ca/post/2022-10-13-little-typer-ch9/ [13:41] TR Bot The Missing Prelude to The Little Typer's Trickiest Chapter - Andrew Helwer [13:42] TR News "Whats the scam? The scam is RANS, DANS, TANS, RDAC, IAS, IFAM and JobKeeper a dazzling array of at least six sorts of public subsidies which helped get this private enterprise through the pandemic." https://michaelwest.com.au/qantas-stock-soars-as-alan-joyce-declares-the-roo-back-in-the-black/ [13:42] TR Bot Qantas stock soars as Alan Joyce declares the Roo back in the black - Michael West [13:43] TR News "As reported by The Australian Financial Review, Kylea Tink (North Sydney) told a forum hosted by investment bank Citi that not all beneficiaries of the cuts are wealthy." https://michaelwest.com.au/2024-tax-cuts-find-their-true-north/ [13:43] TR Bot 2024 tax cuts find their true north - Michael West [13:47] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [13:48] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [13:51] TR News (NEW): Rant: wordpress & privacy - self hosted instances upload all content to their CDN servers i2.wp.com imho without consent and no possibility to delete? http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Rant_wordpress_privacy_self_hosted_instances_upload_all_content.shtm [13:51] TR Bot ( status 404 @ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Rant_wordpress_privacy_self_hosted_instances_upload_all_content.shtm ) [13:52] *AdmFubar has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:57] TR News Re: [GIT PULL] Devicetree updates for v6.1 https://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/2210.1/00691.html [13:57] TR Bot Linux-Kernel Archive: Re: [GIT PULL] Devicetree updates for v6.1 [13:57] TR News (NEW): 5 Best Free and Open Source Text-Based Spotify Clients http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/5_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Text_Based_Spotify_Clients.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/5_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Text_Based_Spotify_Clients.gmi [13:57] TR Bot Tux Machines 5 Best Free and Open Source Text-Based Spotify Clients [13:59] TR News Best Steam Deck Games Released in the Past Week - 2022-10-16 Edition - Boiling Steam https://boilingsteam.com/best-steam-deck-games-released-in-the-past-week-2022-10-16-edition/ Source: Boiling Steam | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//boilingsteam.com/best-steam-deck-games-released-in-the-past-week-2022-10-16-edition/ [13:59] TR Bot Best Steam Deck Games Released in the Past Week - 2022-10-16 Edition - Boiling Steam ● Oct 16 [14:00] TR News "Navit is written in the C programming language and it is released under the GPL-2.0 (Only) License." https://medevel.com/navit/ [14:00] TR Bot Navit: Offline Navigation System for Android and Windows [14:05] TR News "Dan Lorenc is Founder & CEO of Chainguard, the platform to secure your software supply chain. Chainguard supports many popular open source projects such as Sigstore, SLSA, and Tekton." https://anchor.fm/ossstartuppodcast/episodes/E57-Secure-your-Software-Supply-Chain-with-Chainguard-e1p5lia [14:05] TR Bot E57: Secure your Software Supply Chain with Chainguard by Open Source Startup Podcast [14:06] TR News Why the Canadian Film and TV Production Sectors Bill C-11 Expectations Are Wildly Out of Touch With Global Standards https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2022/10/why-the-canadian-film-and-tv-production-sectors-bill-c-11-expectations-are-wildly-out-of-touch-with-global-standards/ [14:06] TR Bot Why the Canadian Film and TV Production Sectors Bill C-11 Expectations Are Wildly Out of Touch With Global Standards - Michael Geist [14:07] TR News When Promtail seems to make position checkpoints (as of v2.6.1) https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/sysadmin/PromtailWhenPositionsSaved [14:07] TR Bot Chris's Wiki :: blog/sysadmin/PromtailWhenPositionsSaved [14:10] TR News "IT is increasingly involved in factory operations." https://staceyoniot.com/how-john-deere-built-its-own-cellular-network-for-its-factory/ [14:10] TR Bot How John Deere built its own cellular network for its factory - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis [14:11] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [14:11] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [14:13] TR News "Extract patterns in R, Rs str extract() function can be used to extract matching patterns from strings. It is part of the stringr package." https://datasciencetut.com/extract-patterns-in-r/ [14:13] TR Bot Extract patterns in R? - Data Science Tutorials [14:14] TR News Common Statistical Tests in R - Part I Musings on R A blog on all things R and Data Science by Martin Chan https://martinctc.github.io/blog/common-statistical-tests-in-r-part-i/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//martinctc.github.io/blog/common-statistical-tests-in-r-part-i/ [14:14] TR Bot Common Statistical Tests in R - Part I Musings on R A blog on all things R and Data Science by Martin Chan [14:16] TR News "Last week, we were very excited to host our first Shiny in Production conference! Attendees gathered in The Catalyst in Newcastle for two days of workshops and talks focusing on all things related to Shiny, building dashboards, and cool things you can do in R." https://www.jumpingrivers.com/blog/shiny-in-production-highlights/ [14:16] TR Bot Highlights from Shiny in Production (2022) [14:17] TR News Inference on Adaptively Collected Data https://youngstats.github.io/post/2022/10/11/inference-on-adaptively-collected-data/ [14:17] TR Bot Inference on Adaptively Collected Data | YoungStatS [14:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [14:20] TR News "The authors conclude that the change in US antitrust enforcement wasn't the result of reasoned argument, but rather, a mix of financial enticements and a covert influence operation." https://pluralistic.net/2022/10/03/powell-memo/#means-motive-opportunity [14:20] TR Bot Pluralistic: 03 Oct 2022 An antitrust murder whodunnit Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow [14:21] TR News "Don't spy on a privacy lab" (and other career advice for university provosts) https://pluralistic.net/2022/10/07/sensory-deprivation/#sensorship [14:21] TR Bot Pluralistic: 07 Oct 2022 Dont spy on a privacy lab, and other career advice for university provosts Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow [14:21] TR News "The EXIF information is a set of data that your camera or smart phone has put into the JPG file. One of the elements of this set is the actual date and time you made the photo." https://box.matto.nl/set-filedate-on-photo-according-to-exif.html [14:21] TR Bot filedate on photo according to EXIF - box.matto.nl [14:23] TR News "We'd buy the cameras ourselves and our biggest fear would be that nobody was watching" https://eponymouspickle.blogspot.com/2022/10/buying-cameras.html [14:23] TR Bot The Eponymous Pickle: Buying the Cameras [14:24] TR News "Portainer comes in two types - the portainer community edition (portainer-ce) and the portainer business [PROPRIETARY] edition (portainer-ee). This tutorial uses the portainer community edition." https://earthly.dev/blog/explore-portainer-as-tool/ [14:24] TR Bot Exploring Portainer As A Tool For Managing Docker Containers - Earthly Blog [14:25] TR News ZDNet running Facebook puff pieces (ads) now. Corrupt site. Surveillance painted as a science. [14:25] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [14:26] TR News Surveillance inside the home https://www.theverge.com/2022/10/12/23398987/google-matter-samsung-smartthings-multi-admin-partnership [14:26] TR Bot Samsung and Google use Matter to add interoperability between their smart home platforms - The Verge [14:26] TR News Invitro neurons learn and exhibit sentience when embodied in a simulated game-world: Neuron https://www.cell.com/neuron/fulltext/S0896-6273(22)00806-6 [14:26] TR Bot Invitro neurons learn and exhibit sentience when embodied in a simulated game-world: Neuron [14:27] TR News "The Russian authorities have added [Zuckerface Inc.] - which owns Facebook and Instagram - to a list of terrorist and extremist organisations, the country's Interfax agency reports." https://www.bbc.co.k/news/technology-63218095 [14:27] TR Bot not resolve host: www.bbc.co.k; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://www.bbc.co.k/news/technology-63218095 ) [14:28] TR News Two evil companies help one another do evil stuff https://www.theverge.com/2022/10/11/23397251/meta-microsoft-partnership-quest-teams-office-windows-features-vr see https://www.theverge.com/2022/10/11/23397251/meta-microsoft-partnership-quest-teams-office-windows-features-vr [14:28] TR Bot Microsoft partners with Meta to bring Teams, Office, Windows, and Xbox to VR - The Verge [14:28] TR News "Facebook, a partly Microsoft-owned company, commoditises site users and exploits them voluntarily so as to harvest peer-informing/tracking labour, then sell their linked data. Facebook engages in censorship, patent aggression, and more" http://techrights.org/wiki/Facebook [14:28] TR Bot Facebook - Techrights [14:30] TR News "Most people prefer Bucket A, despite both buckets having the same expected utility. This is because we tend to choose the less ambiguous option when it comes to quantifiable vs. unquantifiable risk. Our tendency towards ambiguity aversion, even when the expected utility is greater, is called the Ellsberg paradox." https://matt-rickard.com/risk-vs-uncertainty [14:30] TR Bot Risk vs. Uncertainty [14:31] TR News [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D385.jpg [14:31] TR News [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D730.jpg [14:32] TR News How To Downgrade The Manjaro Kernel gemini://pwshnotes.flounder.online/gemlog/2022-10-16-downgrade-kernel.gmi [14:34] TR News "When significant changes occur in my life it feels like they are occurring around me without my agency. They don't have an impact on my feelings or emotions, they are just things that happen." gemini://cadence.moe/gemlog/2022-10-16-emotions-about-significant-changes-in-my-life.bliz [14:34] TR News The development of the online RPG market 16%20The%20development%20of%20the%20online%20RPG%20market [14:58] TR News "CSS may be a boring example, but the more interesting one (for me) is where infrastructure configuration goes. Is there a Tailwind-like solution that helps consolidate infrastructure and application code?" https://matt-rickard.com/where-logic-lives [14:58] TR Bot Where Logic Lives [14:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 18.95 k/sec., IPFS upstream 68.41 average k/sec., average swarm size 123.21 [14:59] TR News "While a commercial solution like IPMI offers many more features like remote serial, or remote image mounting, this DIY solution feels really magical, and has great price performance if all you need is power management." https://michael.stapelberg.ch/posts/2022-10-09-remote-power-button/ [14:59] TR Bot DIY out-of-band management: remote power button - Michael Stapelberg ● Oct 16 [15:00] TR News The Greatest Challenge To State Power https://neritam.wordpress.com/2022/10/10/the-greatest-challenge-to-state-power/ [15:00] TR Bot The Greatest Challenge To State Power neritam [15:01] TR News "Leaders of the African Peoples Socialist Party say the FBI carried out a violent raid on its properties with flash grenades and drones early Friday morning in Missouri and Florida" https://www.democracynow.org/2022/8/10/black_socialist_chairman_fbi_raid_response [15:01] TR Bot Bogus Charge: FBI Raids African Peoples Socialist Party; Group Dismisses Russian Influence Claims | Democracy Now! [15:05] TR News No need for these surveillance devices to study these already-known links https://scitechdaily.com/optimize-exercise-specific-links-between-exercise-memory-and-mental-health-revealed-by-fitness-trackers/amp/ [15:05] TR Bot Optimize Exercise: Specific Links Between Exercise, Memory, and Mental Health Revealed by Fitness Trackers [15:06] TR News Powerful simulation solves vital physics problem - News - University of Florida https://news.ufl.edu/2022/09/thermal-plume-simulation/ Source: Yahoo News | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//news.ufl.edu/2022/09/thermal-plume-simulation/ [15:06] TR Bot Powerful simulation solves vital physics problem - News - University of Florida [15:08] TR News How much in bribe money (sorry, advertising) did venturebeat take from corrupt Facebook to publish such idiotic pieces? https://venturebeat.com/virtual/how-covid-19-changed-the-healthcare-metaverse-prognosis/ [15:08] TR Bot ways the metaverse will change healthcare | VentureBeat [15:14] TR News COVID-19 Waves Leave People Dying in Much Bigger Numbers https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/16/bigger-numbers-post-covid19/ [15:14] TR Bot Blog Archive COVID-19 Waves Leave People Dying in Much Bigger Numbers [15:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. 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[15:32] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@22agg6qj8dxhg.irc) has joined #techrights [15:33] TR News At least they didn't call computers "HEY HI" this time https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/09/20/robots-automating-restaurant-industry/ [15:33] *phobos (~phobos@freenode/user/phobos) has joined #techrights [15:33] TR Bot Meet the robots coming to a restaurant near you - The Washington Post [15:35] TR News Two companies without a future make up buzzwords like "metaverse" and hope gimmicks, not just lies (defrauding shareholders), will help the losses be tolerated https://eponymouspickle.blogspot.com/2022/10/metaverse-style-avatars-are-now.html [15:35] TR Bot The Eponymous Pickle: Metaverse-style avatars are now available in Microsoft Teams [15:36] TR News New system designs nanomaterials that conduct heat in specific ways https://news.mit.edu/2022/nanomaterials-conduct-heat-chips-1007 [15:36] TR Bot New system designs nanomaterials that conduct heat in specific ways | MIT News | Massachusetts Institute of Technology [15:39] TR News "But $2.5b was a bargain, because it allowed the company's original investors (notably the Saudi royals) to offload their Uber shares on credulous suckers when the company IPOed." https://pluralistic.net/2022/10/09/herbies-revenge/#100-billion-here-100-billion-there-pretty-soon-youre-talking-real-money [15:39] TR Bot Pluralistic: 09 Oct 2022 $100 billion later, autonomous vehicles are still a car-wreck Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow [15:40] TR News "Thomas Kinkade, the self-proclaimed "Painter of Light," produced over 1,000 paintings in his life. His company claimed that his paintings hung in "one out of every twenty American homes." Nevertheless, art critics generally wrote Kinkade off describing his artwork as kitsch, naive imitation, gratuitous, or lacking more profound thought." https://matt-rickard.com/personal-data-training-corpus [15:40] TR Bot A Personal Training Corpus [15:41] TR News "You either buy the cheapest undifferentiated items or the best-in-class items from a company with high brand equity. Fast-fashion vs. luxury brands." https://matt-rickard.com/middle-squeeze [15:41] TR Bot The Middle Squeeze [15:42] TR News Impact of fast-melting ice | UDaily https://www.udel.edu/udaily/2022/september/arctic-ocean-acidification-climate-sea-ice-wei-jun-cai/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.udel.edu/udaily/2022/september/arctic-ocean-acidification-climate-sea-ice-wei-jun-cai/ [15:42] TR Bot Impact of fast-melting ice | UDaily [15:43] TR News Jackson, Mississippis water disaster is a crime of capitalism - World Socialist Web Site https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/09/07/pers-s07.html Source: WSWS | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/09/07/pers-s07.html [15:43] TR Bot Jackson, Mississippis water disaster is a crime of capitalism - World Socialist Web Site [15:46] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [15:49] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [15:49] TR News "The arrest took place just weeks after the inauguration of Ferdinand Marcos Jr., the son of the former U.S.-backed dictator." https://www.democracynow.org/2022/8/12/filipino_activist_walden_bello_arrested_cyber [15:49] TR Bot Filipino Activist Walden Bello Speaks Out After Arrest Just Weeks After Marcos Jr. Inauguration | Democracy Now! [15:50] TR News "In his latest essay, Professor Hudson digs deeper into Germanys suicidal economic/financial policies; their effect on the already falling euro and hints at some possibilities for fast integrating Eurasia and the Global South as a whole to try to break the Hegemons stranglehold." https://michael-hudson.com/2022/10/escaping-the-western-rentier/ [15:50] TR Bot reply from server ( status 0 @ https://michael-hudson.com/2022/10/escaping-the-western-rentier/ ) [15:51] TR News Vishwa Guru India Needs to Learn from Southeast Asias Pluralist Ethos https://thewire.in/culture/southeast-asia-vishwaguru-pluralist Source: The Wirecutter | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//thewire.in/culture/southeast-asia-vishwaguru-pluralist [15:51] TR Bot Vishwa Guru India Needs to Learn from Southeast Asias Pluralist Ethos [15:53] TR News "The years since the late 1700s have been marked by waves of struggle for a more democratic, egalitarian society that have repeatedly been rolled back by power elites. From 18th century political revolutions, to 19th century labor struggles, to civil rights struggles, to the cultural uprisings of the 1960s, peoples movements have made gains." https://theraven.substack.com/p/democracy-versus-the-megamachine [15:53] TR Bot Democracy versus the Megamachine - by Patrick Mazza [15:54] TR News "The capitalist economic system has major failures. It generates extreme, socially divisive inequalities of wealth and income. It consistently fails to achieve full employment" https://truthout.org/articles/grades-are-capitalism-in-action-lets-get-them-out-of-our-schools/ [15:54] TR Bot Grades Are Capitalism in Action. Let's Get Them Out of Our Schools. [15:55] TR News Nobel Winner Svante Pbo Discovered the Neandertal in Our Genes - Scientific American https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/nobel-winner-svante-paeaebo-discovered-the-neandertal-in-our-genes/ Source: Scientific American | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.scientificamerican.com/article/nobel-winner-svante-paeaebo-discovered-the-neandertal-in-our-genes/ [15:55] TR Bot Nobel Winner Svante Pbo Discovered the Neandertal in Our Genes - Scientific American [15:58] TR News "The International Institute for Democracy and Electoral Assistance just issued the Global State of Democracy Report 2021. It says that the United States is a country where democracy is backsliding." https://tomdispatch.com/optimism-of-the-will/ [15:58] TR Bot of the Will - TomDispatch.com [15:59] TR News Richard Wolff on School Grades as Capitalist Control - neritam https://neritam.wordpress.com/2022/10/13/school-grades-as-capitalist-control/ Source: Neritam [15:59] TR Bot School Grades as Capitalist Control neritam ● Oct 16 [16:00] TR News Fake ration cards or faulty Aadhaar data? https://ruralindiaonline.org/en/articles/fake-ration-cards-or-faulty-aadhaar-data/ Source: ruralindiaonline | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//ruralindiaonline.org/en/articles/fake-ration-cards-or-faulty-aadhaar-data/ [16:00] TR Bot Fake ration cards or faulty Aadhaar data? [16:01] TR News "Neither Windows 2000 Professional, nor Windows NT 4.0 Workstation could make it through their installers without triggering a blue screen of death" https://rubenerd.com/windows-2000-in-qemu-on-an-m1-mac/ messing with proprietary software is a waste of time [16:01] TR Bot Windows 2000 in QEMU on an M1 Mac [16:03] TR News "The judicial proceedings against Julian Assange give a faux legality to the state persecution of the most important and courageous journalist of our generation." https://chrishedges.substack.com/p/the-puppets-and-the-puppet-masters [16:03] TR Bot The Puppets and the Puppet Masters [16:04] TR News NPM is Microsoft malware source https://geshan.com.np/blog/2022/10/npm-chalk/ avoid. It's not safe. http://techrights.org/2022/02/28/microsoft-github-expose-part-xviii-the-story-of-npm/ [16:04] TR Bot How to use NPM Chalk to colorize and format your console output [16:04] TR Bot Microsoft GitHub Expos Part XVIII The Story of NPM | Techrights [16:05] TR News "Since Twitter seems to be about to dive back into being the hosting platform of choice for neo-nazis, I don't want there to be any gap in my Fediverse access; I've set up a new Mastodon account at @roguelazer@tenforward.social2. Hopefully it'll be another great community, like mastodon.technology was." https://www.roguelazer.com/2022/10/mastodon-move/ [16:06] TR Bot website: Mastodon Move [16:06] TR News Bayesian biostatistics procedures matching frequentist confidence intervals https://yingtongli.me/blog/2022/10/03/freq-bayes-ci.html [16:06] TR Bot Bayesian biostatistics procedures matching frequentist confidence intervals [16:08] TR News "An Adelaide Channel 7 weather forecaster used to say itd be chwenty degrees." https://rubenerd.com/mispronunciations-i-remember/ [16:08] TR Bot Mispronunciations I remember [16:09] TR News "Economic expansion remains the yardstick of success at the global and national levels." https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/15/its-time-acknowledge-endless-growth-model-under-capitalism-unsustainable [16:09] TR Bot Opinion | It's Time to Acknowledge the Endless Growth Model Under Capitalism Is Unsustainable | John Feffer [16:10] TR News Is there a secret Paris agreement that we dont know about? https://neritam.wordpress.com/2022/10/14/is-there-a-secret-paris-agreement-that-we-dont-know-about/ [16:10] TR Bot Is there a secret Paris agreement that we dont know about? neritam [16:11] TR News "As railroad workers prepare for a confrontation against the corporations, the government and the union bureaucracies that falsely claim to represent them, they must learn from and grapple with their own history." https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/10/10/debs-o10.html [16:11] TR Bot Eugene V. Debs and the struggle of railroaders - World Socialist Web Site [16:12] TR News "The US/NATO confrontation with Russia in Ukraine is achieving just the opposite of Americas aim of preventing China, Russia and their allies from acting independently of U.S." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/08/08/how-to-resist-the-empires-neoliberal-debt-trap/ [16:12] TR Bot to Resist the Empires Neoliberal Debt Trap - CounterPunch.org [16:13] TR News "The German public was coming to understand what it will mean if their steel companies, fertilizer companies, glass companies and toilet-paper companies were shutting down. These companies were forecasting that they would have to go out of business entirely or shift operations to the United States" https://michael-hudson.com/2022/10/the-euro-without-german-industry/ [16:13] TR Bot reply from server ( status 0 @ https://michael-hudson.com/2022/10/the-euro-without-german-industry/ ) [16:14] TR News "Median rent across the country is over $2,000 for the first time ever. And people simply cant afford it." https://www.democracynow.org/2022/8/11/activists_call_biden_address_rent_crisis [16:14] TR Bot As Rent Soars & Evictions Spike, Will Biden Address Housing Crisis with Same Urgency as Gas Prices? | Democracy Now! [16:17] TR News Lilbits: Linux on the Star64 RISC-V single-board computer, Game Boy cartridges on the Steam Deck, and fitness tracking on the Pixel Watch (is not optional) - Liliputing https://liliputing.com/lilbits-linux-on-the-star64-risc-v-single-board-computer-game-boy-cartridges-on-the-steam-deck-and-fitness-tracking-on-the-pixel-watch-is-not-optional/ Source: Liliputing [16:17] TR Bot Linux on the Star64 RISC-V single-board computer, Game Boy cartridges on the Steam Deck, and fitness tracking on the Pixel Watch (is not optional) - Liliputing [16:18] TR News "Now Pine64 notes that developer Icenowy Zheng has made great strides in getting the Debian-based AOSC Linux to run on the board." https://liliputing.com/lilbits-linux-on-the-star64-risc-v-single-board-computer-game-boy-cartridges-on-the-steam-deck-and-fitness-tracking-on-the-pixel-watch-is-not-optional/ [16:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [16:23] TR News SpellBinding: CDEGLTN Wordo: WOOLY gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-10-16.gmi [16:24] TR News Linux in the Ham Shack (LHS) Episode #484: The Weekender XCVII https://lhspodcast.info/2022/10/lhs-episode-484-the-weekender-xcvii-2/ [16:24] TR Bot LHS Episode #484: The Weekender XCVII | Linux in the Ham Shack [16:25] TR News "Forum member don570 has created a Audacity SFS for EasyOS, ported from FatDog." https://bkhome.org/news/202210/audacity-313-sfs-created.html [16:25] TR Bot Audacity 3.1.3 SFS created [16:32] TR News (NEW): OE, EasyOS, and FatDog Development http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/OE_EasyOS_and_FatDog_Development.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/OE_EasyOS_and_FatDog_Development.gmi [16:32] TR Bot Tux Machines OE, EasyOS, and FatDog Development [16:33] -Shelob/Wallops-We just released a blog post highlighting some new and upcoming features of the network. If you are a chanop, the new features may be of particular interest to you. [16:34] TR News Pisi 2.3.1 released https://www.pisilinux.org/ GNU/Linux distro from Turkey [16:34] TR Bot Pisi GNU/Linux - zgrlk imdi Balad... [16:35] TR News (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Security_Leftovers.gmi [16:35] TR Bot Tux Machines Security Leftovers [16:35] TR News (NEW): Shows and Videos: Linux in the Ham Shack, Full Circle Weekly News, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Shows_and_Videos_Linux_in_the_Ham_Shack_Full_Circle_Weekly_News.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Shows_and_Videos_Linux_in_the_Ham_Shack_Full_Circle_Weekly_News.gmi [16:35] TR Bot Tux Machines Shows and Videos: Linux in the Ham Shack, Full Circle Weekly News, and More [16:38] *phobos has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [16:38] TR News A bit of a distraction from vastly more Exchange servers that got cracked because Microsoft had intentionally ignored active exploits https://securityaffairs.co/wordpress/137164/apt/zimbra-cve-2022-41352-exploitation.html [16:38] TR Bot Threat actors hacked hundreds of servers by exploiting Zimbra CVE-2022-41352 bugSecurity Affairs [16:38] TR News (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/today_s_howtos.gmi [16:38] TR Bot Tux Machines today's howtos [16:50] frog higher clock frequencies and memory data rates doesn't make a computer more powerful [16:51] frog and most of it is not realtime-capable either [16:52] schestowitz[TR] pure RT is impossible [16:52] schestowitz[TR] by definition [16:52] schestowitz[TR] but you can get close to it [16:52] frog wrong, it is possible to design and implement fully synchronous finite state-machines [16:52] schestowitz[TR] even realtime calls [16:52] schestowitz[TR] theya re not realtime [16:52] schestowitz[TR] there is latency [16:53] schestowitz[TR] and there is no way to make action and callback happen in parallel [16:53] frog wrong, it is possible to design and implement fully synchronous finite state-machines [16:53] schestowitz[TR] not in chips [16:54] frog to guarantee any maximum latency is not violated [16:54] schestowitz[TR] a way edged scale goes up on one side when you press down [16:54] schestowitz[TR] but on a computer it would not work like that [16:54] frog wrong, it is possible to design and implement fully synchronous finite state-machines [16:54] schestowitz[TR] yes, but if you specify a latency >0, then it's pseudo RT [16:54] frog wrong [16:54] schestowitz[TR] you tell me [16:55] schestowitz[TR] how do you build a simulating machine with a chips that responds like a scale [16:55] schestowitz[TR] without speculation [16:56] schestowitz[TR] like "hand is very close to the button" [16:56] schestowitz[TR] "finger pressing down" [16:57] schestowitz[TR] physical car wheel [16:58] schestowitz[TR] versus "power electreonic steering [16:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 22.61 k/sec., IPFS upstream 108.53 average k/sec., average swarm size 125.91 [16:59] TR News Antitrust is and always has been about fairness https://pluralistic.net/2022/10/10/play-fair/#bedoya [16:59] TR Bot Pluralistic: 10 Oct 2022 Antitrust is and always has been about fairness Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow ● Oct 16 [17:00] TR News "The program `btrbk` is simple, it requires a configuration file `/etc/btrbk.conf` defining which volume you want to snapshot regularly, where to make them accessible and how long you want to keep them." https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2022-10-07-nixos-btrfs-continuous-snapshots.html [17:00] TR Bot Solene'% : Linux BTRFS continuous snapshots [17:00] frog https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-sanctions-china-semiconductors-industry-b2202941.html [17:00] TR Bot US sanctions on Chinese semiconductors decapitate industry, experts say | The Independent [17:01] TR News Sketch Design Challenge: App Icons https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/sketch-design-challenge-icons/ art [17:01] TR Bot Sketch Design Challenge: App Icons - Jim Nielsens Blog [17:01] schestowitz[TR] frog: you just changed the subject [17:02] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #techrights [17:02] schestowitz[TR] us sanctioning the manufcaturers? [17:02] schestowitz[TR] foot, meet shotggun [17:04] *scientes17 (~c62ebe51@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [17:04] scientes17 XRevan86 what was that SIP service you recommended again? [17:05] scientes17 oh I will have to ask again, as I need to open a bank account and get a bank card [17:09] TR News "As it turns out, it depends on how you create and use the components. In my test setup I have an HTML document, a stylesheet and three different components." https://www.matuzo.at/blog/2022/100daysof-day10/ [17:09] TR Bot Day 10: global styles and web components - Manuel Matuzovi [17:09] TR News "In this article, I present one simple way to future-proof SQL." https://hakibenita.com/future-proof-sql [17:09] TR Bot Future Proofing SQL with Carefully Placed Errors | Haki Benita [17:11] TR News "One thing I miss about the blogging days is the ability to comment on current events short notice. It's much harder with video than in writing. This is why on my YouTube channel, we now have a weekly Science News episode." http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2022/10/the-first-ever-episode-of-science-news.html [17:11] TR Bot Sabine Hossenfelder: Backreaction: The First Ever Episode of Science News Without the Gobbledygook [17:12] TR News Beta ratio distribution for SciPy https://yingtongli.me/blog/2022/10/05/beta-ratio-scipy.html [17:12] TR Bot Beta ratio distribution for SciPy [17:13] TR News "Using tools that simplify certain tasks makes our work more efficient so we can focus on the things that provide more value." https://austingil.com/under-engineered-productivity-over-engineered-distraction/ [17:13] TR Bot Under-Engineered Productivity > Over-Engineered Distractions [17:15] TR News "No conflicts with your tree. There will be a conflict when you merge the kbuild tree, due to us renaming head_fsl_booke.S to head_85xx.S. The resolution is mostly trivial, linux-next has the correct result if it's unclear." https://lkml.org/lkml/2022/10/9/123 [17:15] TR Bot LKML: Michael Ellerman: [GIT PULL] Please pull powerpc/linux.git powerpc-6.1-1 tag [17:18] TR News Akademy 2022 talk: Konquering the World Are We There Yet? http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/01/Akademy_2022_Timetable_Videos_and_More.shtml [17:18] TR Bot Tux Machines Akademy 2022 Timetable, Videos, and More (UPDATEDx4) [17:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [17:21] XRevan86 scientes17: Novofon [17:22] TR News Reproducible man-db databases https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~cjwatson/blog/reproducible-man-db-databases.html [17:22] TR Bot Reproducible man-dbdatabases | Colin Watson's blog [17:30] TR News "Flight shaming is a social movement that originated in Sweden a few years ago. Its aim is to discourage people from flying because its bad for the environment. But lets be honest, were not going to give up flying just because some Swedes think we should." http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2022/10/can-we-make-flying-green.html [17:30] TR Bot Sabine Hossenfelder: Backreaction: Can we make flying "Green"? [17:31] TR News "We can leverage SciPy's numerical optimisation and root-finding functions to compute the highest density interval directly from the distribution. We can achieve this by solving for the narrowest interval which covers 95% of the distribution (or some other desired level)." https://yingtongli.me/blog/2022/10/06/scipy-hdi.html [17:31] TR Bot Directly computing HDIs from PDFs in SciPy [17:31] *scientes17 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:58] starstreak linucks btw [17:59] TR News 2022 ● Oct 16 [18:02] starstreak Even Amiga gets kernel 6: https://linux.slashdot.org/story/22/10/15/2124215/linux-kernel-60-released-for-the-amigaone-x1000x5000-powerpc-based-amigaos-computers [18:02] TR Bot Linux Kernel 6.0 Released for the AmigaOne X1000/X5000 PowerPC-Based AmigaOS Computers - Slashdot [18:05] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@h635kpe3hju7k.irc) has joined #techrights [18:14] starstreak Elon Musk releases a perfume called "Burnt Hair" - https://idle.slashdot.org/story/22/10/15/2050234/elon-musks-newest-venture-selling-a-100-perfume [18:14] TR Bot Elon Musk's Newest Venture: Selling a $100 Perfume - Slashdot [18:19] schestowitz[TR] musk does not hasve hair [18:19] schestowitz[TR] he has hair plugs [18:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [18:20] starstreak it looks real enough [18:21] starstreak https://entertainment.slashdot.org/story/22/10/14/2353205/amazons-lord-of-the-rings-prequel-ends-season-one-what-did-you-think [18:21] TR Bot Amazon's 'Lord of the Rings' Prequel Ends Season One. What Did You Think? - Slashdot [18:21] *starstreak downloads [18:22] starstreak the show cost $700 million to make :O [18:24] TR News Australia Reports 17.1% More Deaths Than the Historical Average Following the COVID-19 Wave, Let's Look at the Data https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/16/australia-post-covid-spike/ [18:24] TR Bot Blog Archive Australia Reports 17.1% More Deaths Than the Historical Average Following the COVID-19 Wave, Lets Look at the Data [18:29] TR News (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Android_Leftovers.gmi [18:29] TR Bot Tux Machines Android Leftovers [18:29] TR News (NEW): Whats new in GNOME 43? http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/What_s_new_in_GNOME_43.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/What_s_new_in_GNOME_43.gmi [18:29] TR Bot Tux Machines Whats new in GNOME 43? [18:42] TR News An Australian COVID-19 Surge https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/16/australian-covid19-surge/ [18:42] TR Bot Blog Archive An Australian COVID-19 Surge [18:53] TR News Linux Kernel 6.0 Released for the AmigaOne X1000/X5000 PowerPC-Based AmigaOS Computers https://linux.slashdot.org/story/22/10/15/2124215/linux-kernel-60-released-for-the-amigaone-x1000x5000-powerpc-based-amigaos-computers [18:54] TR News ICBM pays slaves with panda NFTs... if they celebrate ICBM. Like Microsoft with Vista 7 "parties" https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/lets-have-a-party-fedora-37 [18:54] TR Bot Fedora Badges [18:57] TR News Wine Dev 7.19 Released, Heres how to install it in Ubuntu https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2022/10/wine-dev-7-19-released-heres-how-to-install-it-in-ubuntu/ [18:57] TR Bot Wine Dev 7.19 Released, Heres how to install it in Ubuntu | UbuntuHandbook [18:58] TR News COVID-19 instant impact https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/16/bigger-numbers-post-covid19/ [18:58] TR Bot Blog Archive COVID-19 Waves Leave People Dying in Much Bigger Numbers [18:59] TR News "I wanted to know how big an impact could be seen in younger people, knowing that COVID-19 mostly kills old people." https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/16/australia-post-covid-spike/ [18:59] TR News COVID-19 deaths over the years https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/16/australian-covid19-surge/ [18:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 16.90 k/sec., IPFS upstream 141.26 average k/sec., average swarm size 114.60 ● Oct 16 [19:02] TR News (NEW): Linux Kernel: Hardware, AmigaOS Computer Support, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Linux_Kernel_Hardware_AmigaOS_Computer_Support_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Linux_Kernel_Hardware_AmigaOS_Computer_Support_and_More.gmi [19:02] TR Bot Tux Machines Linux Kernel: Hardware, AmigaOS Computer Support, and More [19:06] *oarion7 (~anonymous@user/oarion7) has joined #techrights [19:09] *phobos (~phobos@freenode/user/phobos) has joined #techrights [19:13] *phobos has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [19:14] *reptilian_thrills (~reptilian_thrills@m2rp54qasukpn.irc) has joined #techrights [19:17] reptilian_thrills "its a bit like that song, 'sunday, bloody sunday...' really captures the boredom and frustration of a sunday" [19:18] reptilian_thrills "yknow i hate to do this alan, but sunday bloody sunday is actually about a masscre in derry" [19:18] reptilian_thrills "well im never gonna listen to that song again..." [19:19] reptilian_thrills /me hopes its derry, just because if its dublin or sth its a smaller version of the same mistake [19:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. 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Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [20:35] MinceR 16 175413 < schestowitz[TR]> but on a computer it would not work like that [20:35] MinceR it wouldn't even work like that on a scale [20:35] MinceR even that effect travels at most with c [20:35] MinceR (and in this case, probably actually at the speed of sound in that medium) [20:44] TR News Sven Hoexter: CentOS 9, stunnel, an openssl memory leak and a VirtualBox crash http://sven.stormbind.net/blog/posts/centos_c9s_stunnel_memleak/ [20:44] TR Bot CentOS 9, stunnel, an openssl memory leak and a VirtualBox crash [20:45] TR News "PFA, the patch that enables support for the next generation AMD Zen4 CPU via -march=znver4. This is a basic enablement patch and as of now the costings, tunings are kept same as znver3." https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc-patches/2022-October/603486.html [20:45] TR Bot [PATCH] [X86_64]: Enable support for next generation AMD Zen4 CPU [20:47] *mib_kh1ylh has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [20:54] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/weekend-random-randomness-8-20-22-8.jpg [20:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 16.38 k/sec., IPFS upstream 147.98 average k/sec., average swarm size 127.28 ● Oct 16 [21:10] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has joined #techrights [21:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. 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[22:08] *betsy (~igloo@d9tvs44uyg5y6.irc) has joined #techrights [22:10] *betsy has quit (connection closed) [22:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [22:20] TR News "But of course we know that no employer would ever abuse functionality like that, right?" https://palant.info/2022/10/06/scirge-when-your-employer-mandates-spyware/ [22:20] TR Bot Scirge: When your employer mandates spyware | Almost Secure [22:21] TR News "Similar to my SciPy beta ratio distribution, we can package these functions into a SciPy rv_continuous, which allows us to avail ourselves of the familiar SciPy syntax for working with probability distributions. The implementation is available here." https://yingtongli.me/blog/2022/10/07/scipy-beta-odds-ratio.html [22:21] TR Bot SciPy distribution for the odds ratio of independent beta variables [22:23] TR News "Someone bootstrapping a machine with the intent to upgrade will need a much larger power supply and cooling system from the outset, which will price out more people. That sucks." https://rubenerd.com/thinking-about-amds-7000-series-cpus/ [22:23] TR Bot Thinking about AMDs 7000 series CPUs [22:24] TR News "I have some capital-T Thoughts about immediate mode GUIs now, and the particular one I'm using, but those are best saved for another blog post that may or may not come to fruition" https://ntietz.com/blog/rc-week-3-recap/ [22:24] TR Bot RC Week 3: Returning to Math | nicholas@web [22:24] psydruid AM5 is a total failure in the marketplace [22:24] TR News "Let's say you want to self-host a Gemini capsule and a weblog. Maybe you'll use a Raspberry Pi or VPS server. Typically, you'd install (or get a pre-installed) operating system, like Debian/Ubuntu. You might then apt install a webserver like nginx, and pip3 install a Gemini server like JetForce." http://tobykurien.com/simpler-linux-selfhosting/ [22:25] TR Bot Simpler Linux self-hosting with tmux and bubblewrap | Toby Kurien [22:25] psydruid Phoronix: please buy more AMD [22:25] *betsy (~igloo@d9tvs44uyg5y6.irc) has joined #techrights [22:26] TR News "So, if you are planning to follow the advice of energy experts here in Europe (and watch out, quite a few are not experts at all, just echo chambers) to reduce your electric energy consumption and save money, consider the following points (their idea is to unplug chargers you dont use)." https://blog.didierstevens.com/2022/10/08/quickpost-standby-power-consumption-of-an-old-linear-power-supply/ [22:26] TR Bot Quickpost: Standby Power Consumption Of An Old Linear Power Supply | Didier Stevens [22:26] *betsy has quit (connection closed) [22:26] TR News "The specific timings will vary based on the system which runs the test(s), but there's no threading involved so the relative performance is probably comparable." https://blog.steve.fi/trivial_benchmarks_of_toy_languages.html [22:26] TR Bot Trivial benchmarks of toy languages [22:27] TR News "I have worked on numerous projects that involve finding all of the URLs in the sitemaps associated with a website. For example, one of the first steps the IndieWeb Search crawler takes when it starts crawling a website is to find all of the URLs in all of the sitemaps." https://jamesg.blog/2022/10/09/announcing-getsitemap/ [22:27] TR Bot Announcing getsitemap, a Python library for sitemap URL retrieval | James' Coffee Blog [22:28] TR News "This weeks focus is on the competent end of kerosene lanterns and lighting - so, mostly, cold blast lanterns of a range of models! Ive been adding lanterns to my collection for a while" https://www.sevarg.net/2022/10/09/keropunk-part-1-kerosene-lanterns/ [22:28] TR Bot Keropunk Part 1: Lanterns [22:29] TR News "I am excited to announce that IndieWeb Utils is now in v0.3.1. This update is the culmination of months of work from project contributors. Before I get any further, I want to note a special thank you to James, Tantek and Angelo for their collaboration in this project." https://jamesg.blog/2022/10/10/announcing-indieweb-utils-v0-3-1/ [22:29] TR Bot Announcing IndieWeb Utils v0.3.1 | James' Coffee Blog [22:29] TR News Boredom land with NixOS https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2022-10-10-nixos-is-the-most-boring-os.html [22:29] TR Bot Solene'% : Boredom land with NixOS [22:31] TR News "Functional color notations that existed before CSS Color Module Level 4 (rgb(), rgba(), hsl(), hsla()) used to only except comma-separated lists of arguments. That changes with Module Level 4, now you can also provide space-separated arguments." https://www.matuzo.at/blog/2022/100daysof-day11/ [22:31] TR Bot Day 11: space-separated functional color notations - Manuel Matuzovi [22:32] *betsy (~igloo@d9tvs44uyg5y6.irc) has joined #techrights [22:33] *betsy has quit (connection closed) [22:36] TR News "Why more or less modern CSS? Because some topics will be about cutting-edge features, while other stuff has been around for quite a while already, but I just have little to no experience with it." https://www.matuzo.at/blog/2022/100daysof-day12/ [22:36] TR Bot Day 12: max() trickery - Manuel Matuzovi [22:37] TR News "I use YouTube as a video hosting service because it's largely predictable and it's the evil I know. I'm starting to try to reduce my dependencies on large centralized systems like YouTube and one of the ways I want to do this is by hosting my own video." https://xeiaso.net/blog/hls-experiment [22:37] TR Bot Site Update: HLS support - Xe [22:41] *reptilian_thrills (~reptilian_thrills@dzhffiiy2qznw.irc) has joined #techrights [22:41] starstreak welcome back reptilian_thrills :D [22:41] reptilian_thrills thank you <3 [22:41] *betsy (~igloo@d9tvs44uyg5y6.irc) has joined #techrights [22:42] *betsy has quit (connection closed) [22:48] TR News "My understanding is that this paper was very influential in its time. The architecture it describes is a shared-nothing architecture for distributed databases with very nice scaling properties" https://ntietz.com/blog/review-gamma-database-paper/ [22:48] TR Bot Paper review: The Gamma Database Project | nicholas@web [22:49] MinceR attack surface btw [22:50] reptilian_thrills attack surface btw <- <3 [22:53] *betsy (~igloo@d9tvs44uyg5y6.irc) has joined #techrights [22:53] TR News "Now, when you log in your user, `surf` will be started automatically, and you can't escape it, so you will need to switch to a TTY if you want to disable it, or through ssh." https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2022-10-11-openbsd-kiosk.html [22:53] TR Bot Solene'% : A kiosk computer running OpenBSD [22:54] TR News "I like when websites provide direct links to headings on the page. In Mozilla Developer Network documentation, headings are clickable." https://jamesg.blog/2022/10/11/fragmention-links/ [22:54] TR Bot Adding fragmention links to my website | James' Coffee Blog [22:58] TR News Scraping the bottom of the barrel in assault on privacy - Michael West https://michaelwest.com.au/scraping-the-bottom-of-the-barrel-in-assault-on-privacy/ Source: Michael West Media | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//michaelwest.com.au/scraping-the-bottom-of-the-barrel-in-assault-on-privacy/ [22:58] TR Bot Scraping the bottom of the barrel in assault on privacy - Michael West [22:58] reptilian_thrills /me has the better version of baphomet os [22:58] TR News Surveillance around you https://staceyoniot.com/how-to-get-matter-on-your-devices/ [22:58] TR Bot How to get Matter on your devices - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis [22:59] reptilian_thrills i think ill call it lgbtjew os just to fuck with dr sixel [22:59] MinceR :) [22:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.58 k/sec., IPFS upstream 78.28 average k/sec., average swarm size 132.61 [22:59] reptilian_thrills (its not really an os, but thats a minor issue) ● Oct 16 [23:01] reptilian_thrills first thing is its graphical-- but only if you type in /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 vt05 -auth /etc/X11/xenodm/authdir/authfiles/i-love-jews at the command line [23:01] reptilian_thrills startx simply wont do [23:02] reptilian_thrills you could script it, but the man page tells you not to For No Actual Reason [23:02] MinceR lol [23:02] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@uax6j9r5apawe.irc) has joined #techrights [23:02] reptilian_thrills but thats still more graphical than nazi os [23:02] reptilian_thrills in fairness though, dr sixel totally helped inspire this project [23:02] DaemonFC So, it turned out that Walmart ended the COVID vaccine side effects policy completely in April. [23:02] reptilian_thrills and unlike baph os this doesnt even pretend to be a real os [23:02] DaemonFC So Mandy had to use 16 PPTO hours. [23:03] reptilian_thrills its just a software directory ffs [23:03] MinceR (cat) https://www.deviantart.com/furlined/art/Set-Tail-Floof-To-Maximum-916997978 [23:03] TR Bot Tail Floof To Maximum by FurLined on DeviantArt [23:03] DaemonFC I suspect that since people are aware of this, very few Walmart employees will get their boosters. [23:03] reptilian_thrills it is at least designed to be easier to fork than the original [23:03] reptilian_thrills if youre going to fork something (anything) from the fsf [23:03] reptilian_thrills for fucks sake, make it more forkable than the original [23:04] reptilian_thrills dr sixel totally helped inspire this project <- before i found out he was part of project paperclip [23:04] reptilian_thrills or they wanted to get him for project paperclip but he was too nutty and whingy [23:04] reptilian_thrills "if we hire him the other nazi researches will walk out" [23:05] reptilian_thrills "we have to think of the project here" [23:05] reptilian_thrills i would joke about the irony of literal nazis having a code of conduct but ibm beat me to it [23:05] reptilian_thrills then again, thats better than what they would have done to me 80 years ago [23:06] MinceR :> [23:07] reptilian_thrills when der fuhrer sez, we is da master raaaace-- we heil! *kazoo* heil! *kazoo* right in attack sur-face! [23:07] MinceR lol [23:08] reptilian_thrills this may be the only world ive ever been on [23:08] reptilian_thrills but its definitely the most insane world ive ever been on [23:09] reptilian_thrills sometimes i really cant believe it [23:09] reptilian_thrills i dont blame people for thinking this is a simulation. its totally cracked [23:09] reptilian_thrills even leonard cohen said so [23:09] reptilian_thrills more than once [23:09] MinceR i've seen many simulations that were saner [23:09] reptilian_thrills yeah and i dont blame you for preferring them [23:09] reptilian_thrills this place is nuts [23:09] reptilian_thrills and i mean the whole world [23:10] MinceR even the ones where "The sanest place is behind a trigger" [23:10] reptilian_thrills The sanest place is behind a trigger <- hell its worth a try [23:10] reptilian_thrills nothing ventured, fucking boom [23:11] MinceR (audio:music) https://apina.biz/191754.mp4?mode=sfw [23:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-http://apina.biz/191754.mp4 [23:14] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:15] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@yt7zxu45ne39a.irc) has joined #techrights [23:15] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [23:20] *parsifal has quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:25] reptilian_thrills /me removes the locate database [23:25] reptilian_thrills when i delete a file i want it gone [23:25] reptilian_thrills if i want a db ill setup a db [23:26] reptilian_thrills i always did this in ubuntu. a lot of lightweight distros dont bother [23:26] reptilian_thrills openbsd apparently thinks locate is really neat [23:26] reptilian_thrills when i was in highschool i wanted to make something like locate, so its not all bad [23:26] reptilian_thrills i still dont want it [23:27] reptilian_thrills (i had a lot of floppies, and the thing about locate is it doesnt care if files are local or not) [23:27] reptilian_thrills it will index what you want it to [23:27] reptilian_thrills i removed updatedb too [23:28] reptilian_thrills this is just from my installation, its not related to anything else [23:28] reptilian_thrills though and actual distribution i made would not have updatedb on by default [23:29] reptilian_thrills i think its a cron job because openbsd isnt into modern reinventing modern the modern wheel [23:32] *betsy has quit (connection closed) [23:32] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #techrights [23:33] reptilian_thrills /me was just talking about modern reinventing modern the modern wheel [23:34] starstreak i hope gnome 4.x is based on .net [23:34] reptilian_thrills ROFL [23:35] starstreak gtk# [23:35] reptilian_thrills https://zdnet.com/article/good-news-gnome-is-being-rewritten-in-csharp [23:35] TR Bot ( status 404 @ https://www.zdnet.com/article/good-news-gnome-is-being-rewritten-in-csharp/ ) [23:35] starstreak lol 404 [23:35] reptilian_thrills yeah the bot isnt fooled [23:35] reptilian_thrills wait thats just a network problem [23:36] reptilian_thrills zdnet: OH NO WE ARE BEING DDOSED BECAUSE GAFAM HATES THE TRUTH! [23:36] starstreak im using 3.2GB ram [23:36] starstreak damn gnome lol [23:36] reptilian_thrills rofl [23:36] reptilian_thrills thats just the parts that are written in rust [23:36] starstreak rust is actually pretty cool [23:37] reptilian_thrills if you think the resource hogging is bad, check netstat [23:37] reptilian_thrills rust is actually pretty cool <- yeah clown computing is totally the future [23:37] starstreak i dont think its "bad" per se [23:37] starstreak i have 16GB of ram [23:37] reptilian_thrills i dont think its "bad" per se <- people from osi had this as a bumper sticker in the 90s [23:37] reptilian_thrills "it isnt SO BAD, is it brad?"-- dr frankenfurter [23:39] reptilian_thrills they put crickets in our food and bugs in our kernel [23:40] reptilian_thrills then they ddos us for telling the truth [23:40] MinceR yeah, it's so cool that they "move fast and break things" [23:40] MinceR who needs things that function anyway... [23:41] MinceR is there a way to write an application on top of a web browser, but in rust, yet? [23:41] reptilian_thrills i like linux but i wish it was written in javascript instead [23:41] MinceR did you mean "typescript"? [23:42] reptilian_thrills why cant we have a kerenl in a modern language [23:42] MinceR it's not as "hip" or "cool" if it doesn't have extra bondage-and-discipline from MICROS~1 on top [23:42] reptilian_thrills /me writes a kernel entirely in adobe flash [23:42] MinceR lol [23:43] reptilian_thrills finally a kernel that works good AND even looks good [23:43] reptilian_thrills /me makes sure to give the kernel plenty of cool visual effects [23:43] reptilian_thrills when it runs oom it shows a sad face like macs used to [23:44] reptilian_thrills things are a bit over the top with tim cook though [23:44] reptilian_thrills there used to be a sad mac icon [23:44] reptilian_thrills now its a mac leaning against a wall on the sidewalk shooting up heroin [23:44] reptilian_thrills someone please help sad mac [23:44] *MinceR helps with a gun [23:44] TR News Microsoft AstroTurfing: GitHubs First Puppet CEO May Be Violating Wikipedia Rules With Reputation Laundering by Proxy (Hiding the Serial Strangler From Microsoft/GitHub) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/16/nat-friedman-theauthenticco/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/16/nat-friedman-theauthenticco/ [23:44] TR Bot Microsoft AstroTurfing: GitHubs First Puppet CEO May Be Violating Wikipedia Rules With Reputation Laundering by Proxy (Hiding the Serial Strangler From Microsoft/GitHub) | Techrights [23:45] reptilian_thrills mincer uses gun on sad mac [23:45] reptilian_thrills its super effective [23:46] dope_dealer im high on mushrooms [23:47] MinceR hi high on mushrooms, i'm dad [23:47] dope_dealer hi dad [23:47] dope_dealer are you going to put it in my butt again? [23:47] MinceR yes [23:47] *MinceR gets a pipe bomb from his pocket [23:48] dope_dealer kinky [23:48] schestowitz[TR] MinceR: no need to feed these treolls [23:49] schestowitz[TR] they probably just try to put off regulars [23:49] dope_dealer nerd [23:49] *dope_dealer smokes a blunt [23:50] TR News (NEW): Today in Techrights http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Today_in_Techrights.gmi [23:50] TR Bot Tux Machines Today in Techrights [23:53] DaemonFC https://www.npr.org/2022/10/15/1129305660/digital-license-plates-california [23:53] TR Bot California drivers can now sport digital license plates on their cars : NPR [23:53] TR News Seems like going in the WRONG direction https://www.maketecheasier.com/convert-pdf-to-microsoft-word/ [23:53] TR Bot How to Convert a PDF to Microsoft Word Document - Make Tech Easier [23:53] DaemonFC For just an additional $240 a month on top of renewing your plate, you can get a "digital" license plate. [23:53] dope_dealer everything runs on nigga-watts [23:53] DaemonFC But you can pay even more for a license plate with "premium features". [23:53] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], ^ [23:53] schestowitz[TR] I saw that [23:54] schestowitz[TR] California stupidity [23:54] schestowitz[TR] gimmicks [23:54] schestowitz[TR] look ma! leds [23:54] schestowitz[TR] oh, batteries went out [23:54] DaemonFC I love adding costs to owning a car that serve no purpose at all! [23:54] schestowitz[TR] showoff [23:54] DaemonFC mjg59_, can finally get his GULAGSJW4U vanity plate. [23:54] DaemonFC With premium features/. [23:55] DaemonFC So he doesn't miss out. [23:55] schestowitz[TR] "ASSMAN" [23:55] DaemonFC B4THR0B3 [23:55] schestowitz[TR] https://yewtu.be/watch?v=o2X_XNdmWws [23:55] TR Bot Seinfeld - Assman - Dr. Cosmo Kramer, Proctology - Invidious [23:57] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], That was nice of Walmart. They make you take PPTO hours for vaccine side effects now. [23:57] DaemonFC So you get to choose between taking sick days for the vaccine or winging it and risk getting hurt a lot more by COVID. [23:57] DaemonFC It turned out that they had to either point Mandy or make him use PPTO hours, so he chose to use PPTO hours. [23:58] DaemonFC The paid time off on top of no points ended last August, and then the "no paid time, but we'll clear points" policy ended in April. [23:58] DaemonFC The managers don't even know what the policy is anymore, which tells you how many people working there have taken the bivalent booster now. [23:58] DaemonFC It's for white collar assholes. [23:59] *betsy (~igloo@d9tvs44uyg5y6.irc) has joined #techrights [23:59] DaemonFC Who can afford to risk feeling like crap for a couple days because they can be a recluse in a $3 million house anyway. [23:59] DaemonFC Like mjg59_ [23:59] TR News (NEW): LINMOB.net - Weekly GNU-like Mobile Linux Update (41/2022): Plasma 5.26 and SGX 540 reverse engineering http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/LINMOB_net_Weekly_GNU_like_Mobile_Linux_Update_41_2022_Plasma_5.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/LINMOB_net_Weekly_GNU_like_Mobile_Linux_Update_41_2022_Plasma_5.gmi [23:59] TR Bot Tux Machines LINMOB.net - Weekly GNU-like Mobile Linux Update (41/2022): Plasma 5.26 and SGX 540 reverse engineering