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| oiaohm | https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/15/supreme-court-will-hear-copyright-suit-between-google-and-oracle.html The google vs Oracle case is still not over. | Nov 16 02:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnbc.com | Supreme Court will hear copyright suit between Google and Oracle | Nov 16 02:42 | |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: yeah, we saw that earlier | Nov 16 02:54 |
| schestowitz | very high profile case | Nov 16 02:54 |
| schestowitz | many ramifications | Nov 16 02:54 |
| schestowitz | hence many briefs to scotus | Nov 16 02:54 |
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| MinceR | https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/194/176/fd9.jpg | Nov 16 14:14 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: always happens to me........ | Nov 16 14:16 |
| schestowitz | at least thrice a day | Nov 16 14:16 |
| MinceR | :> | Nov 16 14:19 |
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| MinceR | https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2019/08/31/a3577341fe3665d1.mp4 | Nov 16 14:23 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/631716.jpg | Nov 16 15:00 |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2019/11/call-to-readers-lets-talk-about-patent.html?showComment=1573734821494#c3649490462317368800 | Nov 16 15:13 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 16 15:13 |
| schestowitz | Thank you Quality, what do you expect. In the UK our Supreme Court has decided on a very generous doctrine of equivalents applying to the infringement scope. Essentially anything that relies on the same technical effect as a novel and inventive claim is covered by the claim for infringement purposes, with the exact factual situation (knowledge of the potential infringement) being used to determine what the equivalents are. So the scope of | Nov 16 15:13 |
| schestowitz | claim granted by the EPO is simply a guideline, i.e. the literal scope is the minimal scope (starting point) for analysis of what the claim covers. A huge amount of argument is going to go into what the infringement scope is during the proceedings. Doesn't it now make sense to let the EPO grant a minimal scope which is not ridiculous and let people fight it out in the courts on the few occasions a dispute arises? | Nov 16 15:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Call to readers: let's talk about patent quality - The IPKat | Nov 16 15:13 | |
| schestowitz | For the record, I also believe that your position of the Examiner refusing cases is valid and sensible. I just think it does not reflect commercial realities. | Nov 16 15:13 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 16 15:13 |
| schestowitz | zerogue: ^^ | Nov 16 15:13 |
| schestowitz | see more comments in there | Nov 16 15:13 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0167268116301640 the UK court system is worse in some ways lets miss that UK coursts those doing patent enforcement want to avoid because of the increased risk of patent being ruled legally invalid and having to surrender the patent to the court. | Nov 16 15:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Invalid but infringed? An analysis of the bifurcated patent litigation system - ScienceDirect | Nov 16 15:37 | |
| oiaohm | There are are two ways to end a patent. 1 make EPO rule the patent invalid 2 make owner of patent give patent to court so transfer into public ownership. | Nov 16 15:37 |
| oiaohm | Of course if you are ending a patent by transferring it to the court you want the largest scope possible. | Nov 16 15:38 |
| schestowitz | thanks for the url | Nov 16 15:39 |
| schestowitz | I will use it later | Nov 16 15:39 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/631568.jpg | Nov 16 16:06 |
| MinceR | https://static.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/funny-pun-jokes-fb9-png__700.jpg | Nov 16 16:37 |
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| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/NVOR3l5.mp4 ( https://imgur.com/gallery/NVOR3l5 ) | Nov 16 16:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Imgur: The magic of the Internet | Nov 16 16:45 | |
| XRevan86 | https://ngs55.ru/news/more/66343927 | Nov 16 16:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ngs55.ru | Омич порезал баннер, которым завесили окна дома на Красном Пути 11 ноября 2019 года | НГС55 - новости Омска | Nov 16 16:46 | |
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| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/iQCBbA1.mp4 ( https://imgur.com/gallery/iQCBbA1 ) | Nov 16 17:22 |
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| MinceR | (audio:important) https://i.imgur.com/DAHpdes.mp4 ( https://imgur.com/gallery/TfMIJf2 ) | Nov 16 18:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dark side of the Force - Album on Imgur | Nov 16 18:07 | |
| scientes | XRevan86, i saw that macho thing you were talking about https://imgur.com/a/zHjkWKx | Nov 16 18:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Imgur: The magic of the Internet | Nov 16 18:22 | |
| scientes | Also the library has this gaudy US-propoganda section | Nov 16 18:22 |
| MinceR | :> | Nov 16 18:23 |
| scientes | space shuttle+freedom | Nov 16 18:23 |
| MinceR | s/die/become cripples and suffer for a lifetime/ | Nov 16 18:23 |
| scientes | with the space shuttle being such an obvious middle finger to USSR | Nov 16 18:23 |
| scientes | but they don't mention that program is now dependent on RUssia to get to space | Nov 16 18:23 |
| MinceR | can't they use spacex? | Nov 16 18:24 |
| scientes | MinceR, https://www.thedailybeast.com/why-does-the-usa-depend-on-russian-rockets-to-get-us-into-space | Nov 16 18:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thedailybeast.com | Why Does the USA Depend on Russian Rockets to Get Us Into Space? | Nov 16 18:25 | |
| oiaohm | https://www.technologyreview.com/s/614689/ghost-ships-crop-circles-and-soft-gold-a-gps-mystery-in-shanghai/ This ask a good question how lost can you get by GPS. | Nov 16 18:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.technologyreview.com | Ghost ships, crop circles, and soft gold: A GPS mystery in Shanghai - MIT Technology Review | Nov 16 18:26 | |
| scientes | MinceR, oh ha! The US can't even get to space anymore | Nov 16 18:26 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/boWNUrF.jpg | Nov 16 18:28 |
| scientes | MinceR, that is stupid | Nov 16 18:28 |
| MinceR | so's your face! | Nov 16 18:29 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88ZDo3-m_KQ | Nov 16 18:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Scrubs - "So's Your Face" - YouTube | Nov 16 18:29 | |
| scientes | the crossonts here are not very crossont-y | Nov 16 18:29 |
| scientes | they have hardly any butter, and instead are full of jam | Nov 16 18:30 |
| MinceR | maybe you want croissants instead ;) | Nov 16 18:36 |
| scientes | French.... | Nov 16 18:38 |
| scientes | MinceR, these cannot be called croissants | Nov 16 18:38 |
| scientes | only crossonts | Nov 16 18:38 |
| MinceR | :> | Nov 16 18:39 |
| scientes | even the Peruanos could make a better croissant | Nov 16 18:39 |
| scientes | although they got confused when I pronounced it French-ish | Nov 16 18:39 |
| scientes | as they, like Americans, are use to only hearing one language | Nov 16 18:39 |
| scientes | (not that I pronounce French_ | Nov 16 18:40 |
| MinceR | that the daily beast article is horrible | Nov 16 18:41 |
| MinceR | tons of fluff, hardly any information | Nov 16 18:41 |
| scientes | yes | Nov 16 18:41 |
| scientes | but almost everything in English is like that these days | Nov 16 18:41 |
| scientes | I've been getting most my news from RT Spanish | Nov 16 18:42 |
| MinceR | then you know what putin wants you to believe | Nov 16 18:42 |
| scientes | well of course | Nov 16 18:42 |
| scientes | but they did recently awknowledge that bad things are happening in Xin Jiang | Nov 16 18:42 |
| scientes | like 5 years late, but its not like I did anything about it in those 5 years | Nov 16 18:43 |
| MinceR | or you believe what putin wants you to believe :> | Nov 16 18:43 |
| scientes | and at least before they start mowing them down, instead of just killing them for body parts | Nov 16 18:43 |
| scientes | although I don't think we would really know.... | Nov 16 18:46 |
| scientes | its not like they issue writs of habeus corpus | Nov 16 18:48 |
| MinceR | (audio:important) https://i.imgur.com/EmOIYZ9.mp4 ( https://imgur.com/gallery/LBfv1e4 ) | Nov 16 18:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Misirlou (Pulp Fiction) when mom isn't home - Album on Imgur | Nov 16 18:55 | |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Notice that this is almost fascist. | Nov 16 19:06 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: But not really, there isn't really a patriotic side to this. | Nov 16 19:08 |
| XRevan86 | Rather probably satire on what's usually called "toxic masculinity". | Nov 16 19:09 |
| scientes | not sure about that | Nov 16 19:18 |
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| scientes | the guy was right there working on his after-market speaker system | Nov 16 19:18 |
| scientes | also this is Georgia, so patriotism is different | Nov 16 19:18 |
| scientes | I think its mostly in speaking Georgian instead of Russia | Nov 16 19:19 |
| scientes | *Russian | Nov 16 19:19 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: "We'll die without airbags like real men, screaming for help in Georgian" | Nov 16 19:20 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: like that? :) | Nov 16 19:20 |
| scientes | yeah, maybe | Nov 16 19:20 |
| scientes | I get your point | Nov 16 19:20 |
| scientes | it was also odd that it was in English | Nov 16 19:20 |
| scientes | ok, so Russian type of humor | Nov 16 19:21 |
| scientes | whats so awesome here is the weather | Nov 16 19:22 |
| XRevan86 | Is it? I cannot tell :) | Nov 16 19:22 |
| scientes | its 19 degrees right now | Nov 16 19:22 |
| XRevan86 | 2 degrees above zero here | Nov 16 19:22 |
| XRevan86 | Pretty odd for November. But not too odd. | Nov 16 19:23 |
| scientes | high 26 low 12 | Nov 16 19:23 |
| MinceR | "Was that over the top? I can never tell!" | Nov 16 19:23 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Looks like you weren't kidding with BMW being awful. | Nov 16 19:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | My sister in law has one that's 4 years old and the air conditioner works when it feels like it and it has a bad wheel bearing. | Nov 16 20:00 |
| MinceR | :> | Nov 16 20:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The stealer quoted her at $900 for a wheel bearing, so she wants rid of the car now. | Nov 16 20:00 |
| MinceR | BMW "engineered" an engine which is likely to set itself on fire and they tried to avoid calling it back | Nov 16 20:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: I have that beat. | Nov 16 20:01 |
| MinceR | their most recent infotainment system doesn't support Android Auto and only provides carplay if you pay a yearly fee | Nov 16 20:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | My '03 Impala got recalled by GM 4 times for the same engine fire. | Nov 16 20:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They fixed it wrong 3 times, but my mom never took it in anyway. | Nov 16 20:01 |
| MinceR | lol | Nov 16 20:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | By the time I took it in for a new valve cover and gasket, it had 264,000 miles on it and the only reason the recall was still honored was because they did an improper recall the first three times. | Nov 16 20:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So it never expired. | Nov 16 20:02 |
| MinceR | once BMW partnered with PSA to design an engine, that one is also notorious for being crap | Nov 16 20:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: I have a lot of BMW horror stories, but none of my own. | Nov 16 20:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Two of my favorites were from Scotty Kilmer, a mechanic on Youtube. | Nov 16 20:02 |
| MinceR | i have none of my own and am determined to keep it that way | Nov 16 20:02 |
| MinceR | (by not buying their crap) | Nov 16 20:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Someone tried to avoid the $800 car battery at the stealership. | Nov 16 20:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So they took it to Walmart to get one for $100, and Walmart didn't know that on a BMW, there's a computer program to roll the windows up and down and operate the sunroof that is stored in volatile RAM, and if you just take a battery off and put one on, the windows won't work anymore until a BMW stealer with a $5,000 computer reprograms it to roll the windows up and down. | Nov 16 20:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Even better, BMW specifies a very high performance synthetic motor oil with a 20,000 mile service interval. Mobil 1 with an extended drain oil filter (rebadged so the stealer can charge $150 for an oil change). | Nov 16 20:05 |
| MinceR | :> | Nov 16 20:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But in the United States, there's no law that specifies what, exactly, "synthetic" oil means. | Nov 16 20:05 |
| MinceR | lol @ storing firmware in RAM | Nov 16 20:05 |
| MinceR | BMW is more retarded than i ever suspected | Nov 16 20:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So some of it is more cheaply made (Group III Synthetic) and needs to be drained and filled every 7,500 miles or the engine sludges up. | Nov 16 20:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So these BMW people who bought the car but wanted to cheap out on oil, run Group III in it for 20,000 mile intervals. | Nov 16 20:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And BMW starts getting complaints that engines with 50,000 miles on them are running like shit. | Nov 16 20:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They investigate. The engines are sludged and they void the warranty and tell the customers they're on their own. | Nov 16 20:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Yes, there's a way around this without having to take it to the stealership for the $800 battery and window reprogramming. | Nov 16 20:07 |
| MinceR | buy a japanese car instead? | Nov 16 20:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You can hook up a device to the OBD II port that supplies enough power that the computer doesn't forget the window control firmware while the battery is disconnected. | Nov 16 20:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | :) | Nov 16 20:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: That's the problem with running Windows I guess. | Nov 16 20:09 |
| MinceR | or south korean, i guess, reportedly they're getting better lately | Nov 16 20:09 |
| MinceR | lol @ OBD II hack | Nov 16 20:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Yeah, my air conditioner blew a fuse wire on the Kia. | Nov 16 20:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The kia stealer fixed it wrong and billed Kia. | Nov 16 20:10 |
| MinceR | lol | Nov 16 20:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then I pointed out the broken wire, so they fixed it and billed Kia. | Nov 16 20:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Before the car got repossessed and given to my ex, I removed the wire patch kit so he won't have air conditioning again next year. | Nov 16 20:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So he can drive to the stealer and they can bill either him or Kia. (I don't care.) | Nov 16 20:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I saw the invoice they sent in for the wire part. | Nov 16 20:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Kia has to pay them for 1.5 labor hours for the patch ($300) and $30 for the kit. | Nov 16 20:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: John was trying to get me in trouble with probation. | Nov 16 20:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He refused to sign the voluntary surrender on the car so I could have them repossess it. | Nov 16 20:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He thought it would stop me from getting it repossessed, so after he called probation to get me in trouble I told them where the car was so they could come tow it. | Nov 16 20:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Got all my stuff out, canceled the insurance, and pulled the license plates off. | Nov 16 20:15 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | They ended up billing him $1,200 for the repossession, $650 to bring it back to him at his house, $1,145 for the payments I missed with late fees, and now he's making payments on a car he doesn't need that cost way too much money in the first place. | Nov 16 20:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I parked it next to some piece of shit and it got dinged (taking paint with it) four times. | Nov 16 20:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Oops. | Nov 16 20:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So, he paid a little over $3,000 just to get the car back, and he owes them $20,000 more just like it. | Nov 16 20:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | On a car that would sell for about $12,000 as-is. | Nov 16 20:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I drove it all over the place this summer beating the crap out of it. | Nov 16 20:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 100 miles an hour. | Nov 16 20:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Skipped over an oil change. | Nov 16 20:18 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Stepping on the gas pedal at stop lights to hear the engine rev up real loud. | Nov 16 20:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It was running pretty bad last I knew. | Nov 16 20:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I hope the engine blows up on him. | Nov 16 20:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He was really mad and tried to complain to probation that I was "harassing him" by telling Kia where he worked and where all of his money and retirement accounts and stuff were in case they wanted to sue him. | Nov 16 20:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So I managed to get rid of a huge drain on the finances and make an even worse problem for him. | Nov 16 20:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I told probation, "You were very specific that I was to have no contact with John under any circumstances. Unfortunately, I had to have the car repossessed to follow your orders.". | Nov 16 20:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I told my lawyer to make sure he didn't mention anything about my car to the prosecutor while we were working out my plea deal. | Nov 16 20:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Now it's too late for the court to order me to do anything with it. | Nov 16 20:23 |
| MinceR | :) | Nov 16 20:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The guy who attacked me earlier this year (while we were dating), and then smirked after the judge dismissed my protective order now how a Domestic Violence arrest warrant out on him. | Nov 16 20:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He was panicking and trying to get me to go "take care of it". | Nov 16 20:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I just blocked him on my phone instead. | Nov 16 20:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He has syphilis and I know it, but I didn't tell the health department that. | Nov 16 20:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He has no idea. | Nov 16 20:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: It'll crop back up years later and destroy his brain and make him go crazy and then kill him. | Nov 16 20:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He'll never figure it out because I asked him to go get tested for stuff and he refused. | Nov 16 20:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I could tell him, but I'm not going to. | Nov 16 20:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: So it's not like I'm having this horrible year and the people who did it to me are just skating away. | Nov 16 20:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I agreed to meet John for lunch during the summer when the police hadn't imposed any sort of no contact order on me. | Nov 16 20:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I said, "Well, it's just a fact that if anything happens to me and I lose my income, you're going to have to make that car payment.". | Nov 16 20:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He said something like, "I don't want that thing back.". | Nov 16 20:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I went to talk to my lawyer and told him, "Look, don't tell the prosecutor we're desperate for a deal or anything, but that car payment will be late in a week and he's been checking to make sure it's going in. I can only shut him up for maybe 7-10 more days. Don't give away the farm, but try to get it down to a Disorderly Conduct with a little probation or something. Both sides can declare victory and walk away. You | Nov 16 20:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | know the deal.". | Nov 16 20:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "What has John been saying to the state anyway?" | Nov 16 20:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He said, "Oh, John says he changed his mind and he didn't think it was that big of a deal and he doesn't want to see anything bad happen to you.". | Nov 16 20:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I said, "Well, that's not going to last.". | Nov 16 20:40 |
| MinceR | :> | Nov 16 20:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He came back and said, "Well, I talked the prosecutor down to 4 months probation on Disorderly, no conviction on your record, and some court costs.". | Nov 16 20:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I said, "What's the catch?". | Nov 16 20:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "You see your therapist and follow the treatment plan." | Nov 16 20:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I said, "Therapist? The state thinks my doctor is a therapist?". | Nov 16 20:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He's like, "Yeah, why's that funny?". | Nov 16 20:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "I go there every 4 months for medication refills." | Nov 16 20:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Look, don't tell them that. If they want to sign a form saying "See therapist Dr. Kaegi as scheduled, I agree. I'm not agreeing to anything I wouldn't be doing anyway. Might be an idea to not clue that guy in.". | Nov 16 20:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He says, "John doesn't know where you are, does he?". | Nov 16 20:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I said, "Hell no. I gave him the impression I was back in Indiana and he went to pound on the door to my mom's house and the police came out to order him to leave. I have the report. Figured it might be useful.". | Nov 16 20:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: All warfare is based on deception. | Nov 16 20:47 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC[m]: "THIS IS NOT WAR, THIS IS PEST CONTROL!" | Nov 16 20:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Cybermen didn't hold up very well against a few daleks. | Nov 16 20:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "You are superior in only one respect!" What is that? "You are better at dying!" | Nov 16 20:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://mobiloil.com/en/article/why-the-mobil-advantage/automakers-trust-mobil-1?WT.ac=Home-T1_automakers_use | Nov 16 20:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I always laugh when I open the hood and there's a specific brand of oil on the oil cap. | Nov 16 20:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | All that means is that they worked out some sort of a deal with that auto maker that gives them a good deal on the factory fill motor oil in exchange for having their logo on the cap. | Nov 16 20:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You don't have to use that brand. | Nov 16 20:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The brands they list make some of the most notoriously unreliable cars anyway. | Nov 16 20:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm not saying there's anything wrong with Mobil 1 oil. There's not. I use it myself. | Nov 16 20:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But endorsements don't mean anything. | Nov 16 20:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Kia recommends Valvoline on the oil cap. | Nov 16 20:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So what? | Nov 16 20:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you got a few oil changes tossed in when you bought the car, sure, take it there. Use Valvoline. | Nov 16 20:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | After that, use any brand you want. | Nov 16 20:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Eh, if they're paying for it they can put in Valvoline. | Nov 16 20:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Fuck if I care. | Nov 16 20:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's probably Valvoline that pays for the first two oil changes anyway since their ads are plastered all over the coupons you bring back to the dealer. | Nov 16 20:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Kia dealer told me that the only bulk oil they carry is Valvoline High Mileage. | Nov 16 20:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I doubt it'll hurt anything in a new car. | Nov 16 20:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The only thing I ever used High Mileage oil in was something that had a slight leak and the Maxlife did slow the leak down to where I didn't lose any between changes. | Nov 16 21:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But I wouldn't put it in a car at any mileage just because of mileage. | Nov 16 21:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I was losing about half a quart over 4 months or so. | Nov 16 21:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The engine called for 4.5 quarts, so I just filled it to like 4.8 and I still had close to full at the end anyway. | Nov 16 21:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But then it started leaking a little faster a couple years later. | Nov 16 21:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's usually cheapest in 5 quart bottles, but sometimes it's not. | Nov 16 21:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Or there's a rebate if you buy five individual quarts. | Nov 16 21:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So I mixed and matched on whatever went on sale or rebate for most of my cars. | Nov 16 21:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It resulted in some times where I had a quart of Quaker State, 2 of Valvoline, and some Motorcraft, and I'd just pour it all in there. | Nov 16 21:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's oil, same viscosity, meets the same relevant standards. | Nov 16 21:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So it's not all exactly the same. Doesn't really matter. | Nov 16 21:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If it did, I never noticed. | Nov 16 21:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I got a car that was at 120,000 miles and did that for another 130,000 and still didn't have any engine trouble. | Nov 16 21:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: The only car I've ever had that broke down at close to 100,000 miles was a 1995 Chevy Corsica. | Nov 16 21:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That thing was baaaaad news. | Nov 16 21:11 |
| MinceR | :> | Nov 16 21:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Anyway, the engine started making a chugging noise, so I poured Lucas in it ans sold it to a child molester that was related to my mom's ex husband. | Nov 16 21:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It broke down a month later. | Nov 16 21:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | My mom's ex husband saw me mixing oil from whatever I had and said I shouldn't do that. | Nov 16 21:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I asked him why that was. He shrugged. | Nov 16 21:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I said, "You see this Ford Motorcraft filter? I'm going to finish this off by putting it on the Chevy.". | Nov 16 21:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Oh my god, that was the one GM car I've ever owned that just went on and on and on. | Nov 16 21:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Over 300,000 miles. | Nov 16 21:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A 1992 Lumina. | Nov 16 21:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I blew out one of the radio speakers. | Nov 16 21:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Bought one at Auto Zone for $10. Then they wanted to sell me a $15 adapter. | Nov 16 21:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So I pulled out my pocket knife and just cut the factory wiring off the old speaker and twisted the wires to the new one and wrapped it in electrical tape, and put it back in. | Nov 16 21:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Personally, I'm skeptical that any oil is really good for more than 10,000 miles. | Nov 16 21:21 |
| MinceR | afaik it's generally recommended to replace oil more often than that anyway | Nov 16 21:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Unless you want it to be heavily contaminated. Especially with aluminum and iron. | Nov 16 21:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Mobil says they have one that can go 20,000 miles and BMW agrees. | Nov 16 21:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I wouldn't. I really wouldn't. | Nov 16 21:22 |
| MinceR | lol | Nov 16 21:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think 7,500 on full synthetic is about as far as you should go. | Nov 16 21:22 |
| MinceR | BMW says all sorts of shit | Nov 16 21:22 |
| MinceR | they're kind of like the crApple of the car industry | Nov 16 21:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, my sister in law with the shitty BMW has a bunch of Apple stuff. | Nov 16 21:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That car is falling apart more than my 17 year old Impala. | Nov 16 21:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Just one of the problems on her 4 year old Beemer is going to cost 9 times what the same problem cost on my Impala. | Nov 16 21:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | When a wheel bearing was finally shot. | Nov 16 21:23 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=BMW-Linux-2019 Its in fact funny. | Nov 16 21:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The one on my Chevy made it 263,000 miles. | Nov 16 21:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Hers made it 50,000. | Nov 16 21:24 |
| oiaohm | Lot of apple interface stuff infact running on Linux is BMW. | Nov 16 21:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I don't doubt it. Apple's software is horrible and inefficient. | Nov 16 21:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's 20% slower than Windows 10 and 30% slower than Linux on the same Macbook! | Nov 16 21:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The difference in performance between Windows and Linux these days.... | Nov 16 21:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Eh, 10% is still 10%. | Nov 16 21:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's still about what you get after two years of hardware improvements. | Nov 16 21:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But between Linux and Mac..... | Nov 16 21:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 30%? Really? A trillion dollar company has an operating system that's dead slow even on their own computers? | Nov 16 21:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm not sure how much can be blamed on Apple's shitty kernel and how much can be blamed on Apple's shitty compiler. | Nov 16 21:26 |
| MinceR | from the perspective of crApple and microshit, money spent on development is money wasted | Nov 16 21:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But I don't want anything to do with the Mac for a lot of reasons. | Nov 16 21:27 |
| MinceR | they get more ROI if they spend it on corruption, ads or lawsuits | Nov 16 21:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Yeah, Apple pretty much plods along doing the bare minimum that they can to keep everyone from giving up and moving to Android. | Nov 16 21:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And the result is a really expensive phone with specs from two years ago. | Nov 16 21:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But their market share is sinking these days anyway. | Nov 16 21:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, if you think about it, people might not automatically vote with their feet just because the iPhone lags behind, but they do notice that they cost $1,000 more. | Nov 16 21:31 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: My sister in law is doing what most BMW victims do. | Nov 16 23:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Give up and let the piece of shit fall apart around her until she practically gives the thing away to someone else. | Nov 16 23:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They lose like 75% of their value in 3 years. | Nov 16 23:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You end up buying a used one and it's already a money pit. The exterior might look good. | Nov 16 23:11 |
| *danielp3344 hates eur cars | Nov 16 23:11 | |
| *danielp3344 * hates euro cars | Nov 16 23:11 | |
| *MinceR hates german cars | Nov 16 23:12 | |
| danielp3344 | I can't imagine trying to keep a car built today running for 30 years | Nov 16 23:12 |
| MinceR | all hubris, no engineering, no reliability | Nov 16 23:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, the Italians manage to do worse than the Germans. | Nov 16 23:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Fix It Again Tony (FIAT) | Nov 16 23:12 |
| MinceR | :> | Nov 16 23:12 |
| MinceR | i only trust japanese cars for now | Nov 16 23:12 |
| danielp3344 | The french were pretty good at one point, but I think they suck now | Nov 16 23:12 |
| danielp3344 | <MinceR "i only trust japanese cars for n"> asian cars and some american cars | Nov 16 23:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "People of France, a good looking man smoking a cigarette is not a movie! Also, your ambulances sound like gay guys having a threesome!" | Nov 16 23:13 |
| danielp3344 | DaemonFC: ... | Nov 16 23:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Family Guy | Nov 16 23:14 |
| danielp3344 | figures | Nov 16 23:14 |
| oiaohm | danielp3344: some of the reason why a car built today will not last 30 years is improvement in safety. | Nov 16 23:20 |
| oiaohm | Crumple zones don't help term durability. | Nov 16 23:20 |
| danielp3344 | oiaohm: I could care less about that | Nov 16 23:20 |
| danielp3344 | oiaohm: I've never seen one fail without being hit TBH | Nov 16 23:21 |
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| oiaohm | danielp3344: I have seen a car that was pulling too much weight end up streeched deu to crumple zones slowly bending. | Nov 16 23:23 |
| oiaohm | danielp3344: car end up about 20 cm longer and about 10 cm narrowed. | Nov 16 23:23 |
| danielp3344 | oof | Nov 16 23:23 |
| oiaohm | Crumple zones means cars don't exactly age as well. | Nov 16 23:24 |
| oiaohm | and you should really have you car checked every now and again that it still correct shape with crumple zones. | Nov 16 23:24 |
| oiaohm | Older cars hard rigid chassis don't have this problem. But when you crash they transfer all the force to the person inside so increasing kill rate. | Nov 16 23:25 |
| danielp3344 | My car is 30 years old | Nov 16 23:25 |
| danielp3344 | Frame is quite solid | Nov 16 23:25 |
| oiaohm | at 30 years old it would most likely have crumple zones. | Nov 16 23:26 |
| oiaohm | That do need the be checked and maintained. | Nov 16 23:27 |
| danielp3344 | It does, but they are in pretty good shape | Nov 16 23:27 |
| oiaohm | You can expect that old model t ford without crumple zones now as long as it does not get crashed will out last your 30 year old car. | Nov 16 23:28 |
| oiaohm | Because it does not have the structural weakness. | Nov 16 23:28 |
| oiaohm | We have traded car life span for cost of production and safety. | Nov 16 23:29 |
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| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/Rv9xR1v.mp4 ( https://imgur.com/gallery/f61Qo26 ) | Nov 16 23:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Crown Victoria did okay until you hit a brick wall at 45 miles an hour. | Nov 16 23:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So I was very careful not to hit any brick walls at 45 miles an hour. That went well. | Nov 16 23:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That was very informative. I would have never known not to run into a brick wall without the government. The system works. | Nov 16 23:52 |
| scientes | DaemonFC[m], dude, just leave the US, you are in such a load of shit, and life will be better if you leave | Nov 16 23:54 |
| scientes | DaemonFC[m], stop letting the government render you up to the abittoir | Nov 16 23:54 |
| scientes | like a piece of meat | Nov 16 23:55 |
| scientes | you need to make it as expensive as possible for them to do so | Nov 16 23:55 |
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